# Store link:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2378900/The_Coffin_of_Andy_and_Leyley/# Guides (Major spoilers; avoid until having played through the game once):>Routes & Subrouteshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3545926625>Achievementshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050231198>Stars & Visionshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3459534675>Complete Episode 2 Walkthroughhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3052417644>Episode 3 Endings Guidehttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3148380245# News:>Episode 3A: Decay has been released!https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900?emclan=103582791473416093&emgid=523086940514289223>[JULY 2026] development "paused due to legal matters". However, Burial is confirmed to be the next episode. Nemlei to sponsor a "Coffin-likes game jam."https://steamcommunity.com/games/2378900/announcements/detail/702146248223754712# Nemlei's previous games:https://mega.nz/file/FSFXURYI#FhEp5w4qMv4w0A0mMfQ4YqLD5TJuve014_-eTNdIbSIPrevious thread: >>572812259The prophecy foretold long ago edition.
Ashley (not Leyley) loves her inbred child.
Wren x Julia is the truth
>>572959459boobs went from C to DD
>>572959687What is Julia's deal?>Fucks Ashley's brother>Fucks Ashley's sonIs she trying to get with all her male relatives? Did she fuck Doug?
>>572960138Proudley American.
>>572959316translation?I recognise "yes, yes, onii-cha...papa" but the rest is beyond me
>>572961401>Yes yes, big broth...papa will be back soon. Behave yourself.
>>572961401>>572961525Andoryū-san. You know how kawaii imouto is because you have imouto. So you better not play weird tricks on her, Graves-sama's son. I won't forgive you. Sayōnara...
>>572961956I don't speak french
>>572959687*AHEM*
>>572959316Does Ashley love her defective inbred son?
>>572962067>*cough* *cough* *wheeze* >*suffocates*
>>572962067This is Fem!Wren, note the cataract in one eye. Fem!Wren wears contacts and cosplays as Nina Mason.
>>572962471Wrenny is not defective :(
>>572960185>Is she trying to get with all her male relatives? Did she fuck Doug?She tried, but Renee knew to drive her away
>>572962471Wren is a very smart sensitive boy.
>>572959316
Wren being an angsty teenager and not appreciating Ashley's overbearing love... then one day when he hits rock bottom he reads a single letter from his Mamma: I love you. And he absolutely breaks down.
>>572963429>wren game<3
>>572963429what's your >wren game
>>572963431Momley WILL be an adoring helicopter parent. Trust the plan.
>>572963429>wren larger than AndrewNow we just need to get Julia larger than Ashley
>>572965373>wren larger than AndrewDamn, Julia really won't be able to walk anymore
>>572963429>renee julia routeWe're doing this? The Coffin of Julia and Renee is happening? Now?!
>>572963431They'll be good parents but it won't matter. He'll resent them for>being permanently poor>salacious rumors at school that his parents are related>being half blind because of the previous two facts
>>572963429>vision julia demonoh, this explains a lot
Wren cannot be the true route, in the true route grandma wouldn't abandon him.
What kind of dad would Andrew be?
>>572969558Mediocre, provided he reins in his anger issues.
Wren the type of kid to watch sad Bart Simpson AMVs
>>572969558Absent
>>572970151>Absent>Literally helps raise him
>>572969987What does this anon mean?
>>572971530He probably means emotionally absent. Kinda like Renee I guess.
hear me out, what if wren was actually nina reincarnated?
Wren will always think his dad abandoned him but his uncle stepped in and was just as good as a dad, he will tell other people this.Years later when he discovers the truth how do you think he will react?
>>572962471Aside from the cataracts he must be just as retarded as his parents, so he's not extraordinarily defective.
>>572971685Get with the current trends un>>572971765At least he'll like Andrew then
>>572972491Maybe he's smarter than both?
>>572972405Really depends on the personality. Some people would say "And he IS my dad?? That's awesome!" meanwhile others would think "Wow I thought I had no father to take refuge in all my life and they've just been lying to my face this whole time.." I think it depends on how good of a parent you are too, they can easily get away with it if they raise him right since you can practically sculpt a child's personality.
>>572973035This is Andrew we're talking about...
>>572972931>retard + retard = smartBig Wren brain moment
Wrenina
>>572973229Don't exaggerate just to shit on the man
It will be so fucking funny when wren is revealed to be an hallucination or a dream they had and all the fanart becomes irrelevant
Wren works at Wrendy's
>>572972405>>572973035He'll know Andrew is his father, it's having a secret uncle that's going to take him by surprise.
>>572973451We drew Graves beybeys long before any Wren or Audrey or whatever, fag.
>>572973451>fanart>become irrelevanthw nu r u?
Just got off the phone with Nemlei, Wrenlia is now canon
>>572973529>it's having a secret uncle that's going to take him by surpriseSeriously, I fucking love this place.
>>572973785She actually said, "How did you get my number? I'm calling the hit squad on you. Your motherfucking life ends five minutes from now." I know this because I was in the room with her.
>>572973623>>572973750The difference is that this art is drawn with a purpose/base of a delusion people have, while incest babies that were previously drawn were always fan things
Just got off the phone with Kit9, anon's house is now bombed.
>>572969558Assuming both siblings become mentally stable enough to avoid strangling the baby Wren in the crib? Andrew would be a clumsy but doting dad, trying to give his son what he himself did not get.
What makes someone so petty they want to see everyone devastated for something that could only *possibly* happen and that literally noone would care for?
>>572974328What?
>>572974328Vaguepost-dono...
>>572959459Hells yeah
>>572973895>Hey mummy, why can't I find you and dad on any official databases?
>>572974328uhhh yeah i think so
>>572974610Why don't you guys ever get my vagueposts? Isn't it clear which recent post in the thread I am definitely not referring to??
>>572974854How about you stop trying to bring it here?
>>572974114He'd be a suspiciously good dad since he already raised one child.
Reminder that the devlog preview is just bait and not a good ending.
>>572974053مَا شَاءَ ٱللَّٰهُ
>>572975915Why does his hair stick out of the shemagh?
>>572975436cute daughtersisterwife
>>572976472He isn't very good at wrapping it.
>>572977489It's better without wrapping it anyway.
Threadly reminder bratty sister need to be anal-ized.
>>572984372Leyley is a huge bitch. Renee should have sold her to the military to recover some of her expenses.
>>572941995Accidental swaps happen at the maternity ward
>>572963429>rape wife Oh...
>>572977489Andrew isn't very good at rapping in general
>>572959927Ashley truly won the genetic lottery. When she becomes a single mother may even reach H cup
>>572986012If you're retarded enough, he is good at raping too.
>>572987285What makes someone good at rape?
>>572987285He's so good at raping that he's never raped anybody.
>>572981461how does it get that big when she has been starving for ages
>>572989185Ashley truly won the genetic lottery. Even while starving she kept her amazing FAT TITS!
https://files.catbox.moe/yliuvd.png
>>572989185Sisters are highly adaptable.
i need wren to rape ashley and andrew chasing him across the demon realm in revenge
>>572989726what game is she playing!>>572990221wow ashley is so cool andrew is lucky to have her..
>>572989185>starving for agesWe've been over this. They had food until the start of the game. They were starving for a few days at most
>>572992740Even if Ashley had been starving for a week, she at most would have lost 3 pounds at most not including water weight.
>>572962471He's not a detective
>>572992740>They had food until the start of the game.if that was correct, then Ashley's menstrual cycle wouldn't have stopped
>>572972491He's going to be defective after they make a deal with a demon to fix his eye because it's a bad end and they haven't grown as people yet.
>>572993512>if that was correctWhat do you mean "if"? The very first thing you do in the game is eat your last bit of food
>>572993814yeah, and it's also in-game that Ashley's cycle was disrupted. That doesn't happen from just a few days without food
what was the neighbour girl doing to get extra food from the wardens she must have had cool splitscreen games in her room maybe they were playing fusion frenzy
>>572993942do you think she... you knowi mean, perchance she did
>>572993937Stress can disrupt a woman's cycle. It's more than starvation which can do that
>>572994073Multiple times daily. Probably with the other shift of guards too.
>>572994349>>572993937Stress can definitely affect a woman's cycle, in fact a lot of things can, but I think you're both missing the forest for the trees: they were rationing food, which means you're probably going to lose at least a little bit of weight. In Ashley's case, she was already extremely thin pre-quarantine barring two very notable exceptions, so it's not insane to imagine that the minor weight loss of rationed food coupled with the more rapid weight loss and stress spike that comes from a rapid deprivation of food would disrupt her menstrual cycle. You're both essentially quibbling over how literally you want to take starvation.
>>572993942Showing off her Yugioh collection. She had the exclusive Normal variation of the Black Luster Solider.
Imagine Wren impregnating Leyley!
>>572997129no?
>>572997129>picLeyley would have zero confusion about this let's be real
>>572997129
>>572997129Wren WILL get Julia pregnant
>>572997350Julia's husband Anon did that 5 times already and she's loyal to him.
America has the best sisters. The best sisters. Nobody has sisters like we do. The fake news media can deny it, the Democrats can deny it, but we all know it's true. Big sisters, little sisters, American sisters are the envy of all nations. And yet, China are laughing at us! They're laughing at us, because they can legally fuck their sisters and we can't! I've been to China and I've spoken to Xi Jinping. I've seen how he fucks his sister and my first thought was, "We can do that better here!". But the radical left liberals won't let you kiss your sister. It won't happen, and it's all because of their rabid woke ideology. Right now every other country is laughing at us because of it. We're letting hussies roam free on the streets tearing apart our families, while American sisters are abandoned and disgraced. This needs to STOP! As such, I am signing an executive order that will officially make March 25 Sibling Incest Day. We will also be working with loyal and patriotic state governments to legalize sibling marriage as soon as possible. WE WILL MAKE INCEST GREAT AGAIN! Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>572997583Kissing sisters is an executive order.
>>572998413I've always believed Nemlei has George Bush energy.
>>572998413Holy fucking shit that's a blast from the past.
>>572959687>>572960185>>572965583>>572997350If this were your teacher you'd hit too.
>>572999358>you'd hit too.
>>572997396>>572997583>>572998413Why should the Graves celebrate their enemies? They are totally slavs living in a panelàk
>>572999921>Coffin but it's the USSR in the 80s
>>572999921>They are totally slavsNemlei said Cofifnland is in Northern Europe.
>>572999358>you'd hit too.I'd certainly jerk off to her. But I would never have the courage to try
>>572999358Hitting Julia is pretty rude and unnecessary.
>>573000234Northern Europe is basically the same as the Soviet Union. The Graves also act like slavs except Renee who is slightly jewish
>>572998580Zoomers online are obsessed with that one George bush/Al Gore jibjab song.They made phonk edits of it, and put jibjab bush into anime intros and stuff.Someone even made a Al Gore stronger than you parody. It's weird
Hey, DUMBlei, I know you're reading this. Maybe take this development gap to give us merch or pertinent lore like Julia's last name. Why do we have Nina's last name, but not Julia's?
>>572997265All sisters assume they will grow up to marry their brothers as children by default, this is known.
>>573001905I don't remember Nina's last name.
>>572999464Me to whoever the fuck is pushing for this retarded recent shite about Julia and Wren
>>573002018I forgot it too. What was the guy's name, Mr. Mason or something?
I ship Wren with that one kid from the campground you can kill.
>>573002047>whoever the fuck is pushing for this retarded recent shite about Julia and Wren
>>573002047Anon, you know how these things go. One or two autists develop a hyperfixation on something and then post about it incessantly with almost no variation until a new hyperfixation is found, or they get banned. Alternatively, it's being done to deliberately be annoying. You can't solve the former by yelling at them because they'll just double down, and giving any sort of response to the latter will result in the same.As usual: just ignore it, and filter it if you can.
>>573002384Can anyone talk about anything without someone making it out to be a conspiracy?
>>573002583The one I spent the most time explaining isn't a conspiracy, it's an observation that some people here do behave a certain way because they fixate on shit, which is observably true. The latter is merely an alternative explanation to demonstrate that it's not worth getting upset about or yelling at regardless.
I love when a woman gives a degenerate smile like this. Ashley is so beautiful
>>573002384I've latched onto Julia x Wren after seeing at least one other Anon spam it. I like it because it's Julia's final revenge against Andrew
>>573003760Or Wren's first act to show he's Andrew's son.>>573003476What a cute yet t rashy girl
>>573003936Don't reply to me faggot.
>>573003760Hope your petty fit ends after your period then
>>573003760That's not revenge at all. You just hate her and want Julia's life to suck for over a decade with failed relationships and then get coerced by some shitty student into sex*
>>573003760>>573003936Wren has the skill to pull Julia no doubt. He may even be more dangerous if he has Ashley's passion but Andrew's intelligence.>>573003950
>>573002384>just ignore it, and filter it if you can.Sorry anon sensei... I forgot to post cute instead.
>>573003760I started posting Wrenlia because it's cute. What other reason does a man need?
I still kneel for the Anon who voted for Nemlei in 2024.
Late to the update but I finally checked it out. Couple of questions>1. Can anyone give likely estimates as to what legal troubles Nemlei is running into?I read a few of the last threads and lots of people seem to be speculating it's haggots and their haggot fantasy mods, but that doesn't seem to match what's actually written on the devlog, which outlines a subset of the fandom's activities as getting "more brazen and openly hostile". Saying it's Nemlei having a melty over haggots just seems like a slander narrative>2. What happened to the Steam discussion threads?I was going to post my thoughts in there but they're not loading at all anymore for some reason. Did chaos ensue in there or something?
>>573004428Nems had a better chance of winning than most of the people on that ballot kek
>>573004404Well faggotry for one, which is your real reason.>>573004428That shit was real? I don't member.
>>573004565It's almost certainly not any particular mod unless it's paywalled, so it's likely somebody making bootleg merch or committing flagrant IP fraud.
>>573004565>I read a few of the last threads and lots of people seem to be speculating it's hagg-Stop creating fanfiction. It's neither lots of people and It gets shot down instantly by an actual "lots of people" instantly.
>>573004658>Well faggotry for one, which is your real reason.When did straight sex become gay?
>>573004790INSTANTLY
>>573004862anons suffering from thiu derangement syndrome
>>573004790Whatever, semantics. The point is I've seen people having posted that and I'm also saying I disagree that's the case. Quit getting your panties in a knot.>>573004737Yeah I didn't think so either.
>>573004862When you started wishing ill will and failure upon Julia for 16 years.
>>573003760I like wrenlia mostly because of how meek Julia is, which makes the concept quite hot
>>573005165>thiu derangement syndromeMANY such cases
Does pregnant Ashley get any changes? Does she get pregnancy cravings or becomes softer?
>>573005432It's moe for a girl to fall in love easily. It makes her inevitable happiness all the sweeter
>>573004862When you started talking about it
>>573004565>1. Can anyone give likely estimates as to what legal troubles Nemlei is running into?Nemlei is probably going after several people. I am almost certain that Furball and Lectryn are among the targets: two gypsies who have been impersonating Kit9 for almost 3 years at this point so they can (1) collect streaming revenue from reuploading the game's soundtrack and (2) issue false DMCA's against creators in the fanbase.Nemlei might also be going after HeavyBerry/HeftyBerry/Mr-Archive, the creator of the "Coffin of Candy Scabs" mod. The mod itself is not the issue; rather, HeftyBerry has for months been posting Nemlei and Kit9's dox shit on the subreddit and his Discord server, as well as digging up potentially Nemlei-made games that were previously unknown, all under the guise of "Kit9 lost media".I don't know if Nemlei is going after the hagmod makers, but they are certainly afraid because they've now ceased stickying their shitty fetish mod on the subreddit.>2. What happened to the Steam discussion threads?They're still there, they're just not available in a browser; you have to use the Steam client to access them.
>>573005891Every woman craves during pregnancy. I wonder what she craves. Now I also wonder if we'll ever see a mention of her craving something and Andrew having to find a very specific thing in the middle of the night for her or something lol. Oat cookies would be cute.
>>573006139>I wonder what she cravesProbably toxisoda>I also wonder if we'll ever see a mention of her craving something and Andrew having to find a very specific thing in the middle of the night That should totally be a side quest in the game!
>>573006136That makes a million times more sense. Thank you
>>572963429>ashley need stop talkingImagine how many problems that would solve
>>573007045Not many, actually, because it would just enable Andrew to keep committing to his problems without resistance.
>>573007045kek
>>573006743She truly is the perfect woman
went absent from this place for 4 months, what'd I miss? did the update finally came out?and who the hell is wren and why many people are talking about it right now?
Come on /calg/, give me some American energy!
>>573008410Ashley got preggers, Nemlei got in trouble with the law and the game is paused until further notice. But wren is Ashley's son after she got pumped and dumped.
>>573006656>That should totally be a side quest in the game!Nemlei I know you or your code monkey is here, write all this down.
She will grow into a fine woman and a good mother unlike Renee
Does anyone have an edit of Andrew bald or with a receding hairline?
>>573008417SISTER SAM WANTS YOU
>>573008925>Nemlei got in trouble with the lawBullshit
>>573009236Complete bullshit, as a matter of fact.
>>573009093They all think that until it's time to actually be a mother.
>>573009042This so much. We need this in the gameTruth is Nemlei stopped the game to get ideas>>573009194Why would he go bald? Douglas has some nice hair
>>573008417>BLOODSUCKER BROTHERFUCKERAlmost as good as the shirt in picrel
>>573009370Not as good as this
>>573009370Leaked official merch
>>573009370I want to pop Ashley's cherry
>>573009293I'm not saying he would go bald I just need the edit for something.Also isn't his grandpa bald?
>>573009608Imagine showing the real Hitler this.
>>573009293He has Grandpa's genetics clearly. He's going to have quite the bald spot.
>>573009214>sister samIf that was the American propaganda, I would be fine with giving all my taxes to be used to fund a war for Sisrael.
>>573009723Did you know that there's a very small chance Hitler saw Big Chungus?Big Chungus first appeared in 1941 and Hitler died in 1945.
>>573009702Julia is just so fucking cute
>>573009702Nasty.
>>573009671>>573009738Grandpa was a fucking fossil by the time we saw him, and he was designed to be old for the plot unlike Doug so that's why he had to be bald. Andrew is a 6'9" 10 inches psycho bad boy so he can't ever grow bald, it would be against the author's purposes if you catch my drift. Even if we see them old someday he will probably still have hair like picrel.
>>573009738Is Andrew really that unlucky that Douglas avoided it but he didn't?
>>573009981I don't think Hitler was a big fan of the Looney Toons
>>573010154cool fanfic
>>573009723He would be honoured to know he has been photographed next to Ashley Graves at some point.
>>573010243The whole game is a fanfic of Nemlei and she is NOT making HER ideal brotherlover bald. Anon is right.
>>573010452>ideal brotherloverWhy would Ashley be bald?
>>573010227You would be surprised.
>>573010452>The whole game is a fanfic of Nemlei and she is NOT making HER ideal brotherlover bald. Anon is right.Exactly. Andrew is a dark brooding badboy with a 10 incher and huge hands. He easily towers over Leyley
>>573010645The intent of the coinage is to convey that the subject talked about is a brother and lover simultaneously, not a person who loves a brother.
>>573010156Douglas didn't avoid it. Andrew might have, but that's because you get your hairline from your mother's side.
>>573011129No.
>>573011149Who inherited Renee's jewish genes? Andrew or Ashley?
Nemlei subtly telling us who the father is
>>573011928And they tried to tell me Andrew wasn't black
>>573011928kek based slavdrew
My sister played the Coffin for the first time a few days ago. She texted me and told me to come over to her place so we could discuss it. "Bring condoms" she added. I thought it was a joke, but no, we had sex.
>>573013745There's something about posts like this I strongly dislike, but it's hard to put my finger on it.
>>573013745It's true, I was the condoms
>>573013872For me it's how transparently fake and gay it is.
So, Ashley, have you thought any more about our friendship?Our friendship? Yeah, uh, no, sorry. Still giving it some thought.Giving it some thought?Yeah.You know what, don't bother. It seems I've upset you so... offer's off the table.You upset me? How'd you upset me?You tell me.This is getting a little weird, JuliaYou wanna know what's weird? It's weird to offer a friendship to a girl and in return have old-man insults thrown at you and death threats sent to your voicemail. That's weird.Are you listening to yourself? I don't know what you're into these days, Julia. But old-man insults? And, uh, death threats? You sound unhingedAshley, I'm sorry you're in painHa, you're sorry? You're sorry? You fuck my brother, and you say you're sorry? Let me tell you something. The friendship offer, it didn't upset me, it amused me. Wooo, a nice friendship with the illustrious Julia. A chance to play at the palace. Ooh Little old me? You have no idea what's going on. You're a teensie tiny girl in a teensie weensie little bubble. You look down on me? You pity me? Walk away. That's right Julia. You know why I don't want your friendship? Because it's too SMALL. I don't care about it. It's nothing to me. It's a bacterium. I travel in worlds you can't even imagine. You can't conceive of what I'm capable of. I'm so far beyond you. I'm like a god in human clothing. Lightning bolts shoot from my fingertips!
>>573013745Welcome back, I haven't seen your caption-tier incest fiction in a while.
>>573013872I don't hate it, but it lacks a certain je ne sais quoi.It's just kinda dry and uninspired.
>>573014273I'm not into blood and gore, but I am into sex with a freshly dead body. Renee's would have been perfect for me. I'd have had the greatest orgasm of my life fucking her fresh corpse
>>573014210Well, no, that's the thing. It's fake, but the person writing it made no effort to conceal this or convince you it was anything but. Maybe it's a joke, but it's kind of dry and there's no real punchline. If I had to put it into words, maybe it's because it has no real obvious point. Shitposts, troll posts, image dumps, all of these things have a discernible motivation for posting them, I just can't understand why somebody would bother to put words on a screen that they know are fake, not to convince anybody of anything, make them laugh, or otherwise entertain them, but seemingly for no other reason than "just because."
>>573014456you the mound guy or someone else?
Who the fuck is Wren and why is Nemlei getting sued?I dip out for a week and now everything is on fire.
>>573014615No I think he's the guy who needs to post about his love of trashy beating cold feet trailer trash single mother tenderized blah blah blah at least 20 times a day.
>>573014489He used to post these all the time too, but I haven't seen him for I'd like to say 3 or 4 months. He probably got bored and gave up after we stopped giving him attention, so clearly our biggest mistake in this thread is giving newfound attention to it.
>>573014964I mean, I remember the posts, but there were always two varieties: obviously fake but didn't try to convince you otherwise, and obviously fake but tried to convince you otherwise also you'd get bored of reading that bullshit slop two sentences in.
>>573014489The pointlessness of it is quite interesting. If they were trying to make a fake story you would think it would be longer and trying harder to be provocative, titillating, amusing, something. But then again they used to do that, and people just called it fake and gay. I'm sure most people didn't even read them all the way through. Who knows what motivates something like that.
>>573014615Who's the mound guy?>>573014875>his love of trashy beating cold feet trailer trash single motherIt's gonna kill you when I say I'm none of those posters
>>573015301Some guy who constantly talks about fucking Reneé's corpse and keeping her "mound" as a pocket pussy. Thought you were him but was uncharacteristic to not mention the mound.Also I have no idea why the other anon thought you were the trailer park guy, I don't think that guy ever shown interest in Reneé or necrophilia.
>>573015654>Also I have no idea why the other anon thought you were the trailer park guyIt was a stab in the dark because he's been spamming about his myriad of retarded antisocial fetishes that he was the first suspect that came to mind
>>573014218kek now that's pasta I come to this shithole for. Now do the Chicanery one>>573014869Ashley's son after she got pumped and dumped like a retard. Didn't even get food or a new home for her troubles.
>>573015654Ooooooooooooooh yeah I know who you're talking about. Yeah, different guy. He seems more into guro than necrophilia. I'm mostly drawn to thought of being alone with her body after it had just been sacrificed, that other guy seems more like a sadist>Also I have no idea why the other anon thought you were the trailer park guyObviously every post I dislike is made by one person, that's what's reasonable
>>573016265>she got pumped and dumped like a retardyou're kidding right?
>>573016516It's Andrew's kid, he's just being retarded on purpose because of his fetish.
>>573014869Thinly veiled incest child in a route that's probably not a good ending with too many red-flag indicators, but has enough meat to it that people will like it akin to Shots'n'such.
>>573016516Until its confirmed that it was Andrew, for all we know Ashley rode the dick carousel and won herself a prize. I tell ya man, she's gonna go the Metamorphosis and become a gyaru.
>>573016571I know but I couldn't tell if he was being facetious or if he was retarded enough to believe what Ashley said about the dad
>>573016792He's a fucking idiot, but it's clearly deliberate.
>>573016641>has enough meatkek good one. I mean being a butcher truly fits Andrew.
Gorki was a hero...we just couldn't see it at the time.
>>573017295bomb serbia again
>>573017295Mental illness so powerful no other form of insanity could survive, like a tree strangling the undergrowth.
>>573016873>Andrew is a butcher in this ending>Cult gets their blood supply from a "butcher">parents alive, mostly likely through heavy demon tampering>cataract as a plot device that doesn't get fixed with surgery, may be fixed with demon intervention leaving him with a weird eye he can't explain to people always asking him about itMaybe, perchance, possibly, /calg/ has manifested an antichrist being born in Andrew's bad end.
>>573017341Kek
>>573018139I keep thinking that's where the story is going. That he will become an antichrist type figure. Maybe a vessel?
I love JuliaI'm so desperate for a human connection with a girl. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night realizing that I'm only getting older and still don't know romantic intimacy with a woman. I'm in such desperate need of a cute girl like Julia that I can love and adore and who will need me but I'm simultaneously so scared of being known and interacting with othersI really love Julia
Okay I saw the cataract video.>Renee and Doug are alive>Doug wasn't disinherited>Grandpa Graves died>Andrew and Ashley aren't in the quarantined apartment>Andrew works as a butcher>Andrew was living apart from Ashley with his girlfriend before they broke up>Andrew and Ashley are now living in the same place and Andrew pays the rentSo... for some reason Grandpa Graves is happier about Doug's choices in this timeline. Ashley obviously baby trapped Andrew and forced him to break up with his girlfriend to raise Wren. The kid's eye is fucked up because of incest.
>>573019893Anon... I reorganized it>The quarantine and life insurance scam happened>Renee and Doug go to Grandpa to sob-story him into getting an inheritance>Parents likely alive through demonic intervention reviving them>Andrew created a cover story about living with a girlfriend when he was actually living with Ashley
>>573020090The bodies were blended into a paste and the bones either stuffed down the drain or tossed into the ocean.I don't see how they can fix that. Maybe if they remained lifeless husks tied up in the basement there could have been a way to re-soul them.This is clearly an AU.
>>573018725>Wren = antichristIdgi?
>>573020424Who knows what LU can really do. But even if you are concerned about physical matter I speculated that there could transfigure one body into another or something using demon energy instead of creating it outright.
>>573019893>>573020341>>573020424Not sure whose who here, but the point of divergence for Cataracts is clearly after dinner at Mom's house in Ch2. OTL, the kids stay, kill the parents, and shenanigans ensue. But in Cataracts, the kids have still been legally declared dead, and the parents know that the kids know already, so it has to be after they meet the parents. But they're still alive, so it has to be before Andrew goes to bed. Plus, the parents are still in semi-regular contact with the kids (Renee said she gave Ashley advice on what to do about the dad while she was pregnant, so Renee clearly knew it was happening (but I say "semi" regular because I don't imagine Renee really gives that much of a shit)). Plus, in Ch2 we see that Mom already has Grandma's jewels. So what I think happened is that after dinner, Andrew takes Renee's offer to leave and brings Ashley with him. Now, what I do think this reveals is that Grandpa died before Grandma and both are dead when Ch2 starts. But this is just a theory of mine. Gramps said he was going to donate his money to the church, and I think if Grandma had died, he would have. The fact that the parents got any inheritance means Grandpa didn't give all his money away. There are two reason for this. First, he had a change of heart (hah, yeah right). And second, he died unexpectedly and so was unable to give his money away. So Grandma got it all and left it to her kids
I expected more American festivity in this thread...
>>573020906>what I do think this reveals is that Grandpa died before GrandmaWrong.
>>573020940Celebrate in the most American way possible: kiss your sister and then fire an automatic weapon into the sky.
>>573020940I think most anons either are out celebrating or are so unfestive they didn't even open their window to see the fireworks (like me)>>573021108Nuh-uh
>>573020940>American festivity>celebrating anything>being happy for any reason>in 2026Clearly you're living on some alien planet. I'm glad things are working out for you there.
>>573020906Ashley makes a remark the their parents may have went to see Grandpa (just him) while robbing their house. Grandma was already dead and she left some Jewelry for Renee and/or Douglas. This also means that when the siblings were legally declared dead, there is a chekhov's gun where Renee went straight to Grandpa hoping to get more money out of him because his Grandchildren "died of parasites".
>>573021401>>being happy for any reasonThere's no money in being sad
I do like there's at least one timeline where Renee and Doug live.
>>573021474>Ashley makes a remark the their parents may have went to see Grandpa (just him) while robbing their houseReally? I'd forgotten that. Well, fair enough, 1 point to you. I guess Grandpa was just bluffing when he said he'd leave all his money to the church. Maybe he's not a complete asshole after all
>>573021287Yeah, they attended Grandpa's funeral not long before Wren was born and Andrew was working at his company despite being unqualified for the job he was given, so he must still be alive but probably in poor health during the events of the game. Renee has Grandma's necklace when we see her talking about Ashley taking the massage parlour job but not when Leyley tells her about Nina, so she probably died when they were teenagers.
>>573021657*not long after, so probably 10-12 months after Episode 2.
>>573021657>Andrew was working at his (grandpas) companyThat's fanfic.>>573021607Like I said he was probably going to donate all his money to the Church before all the circumstances and slimy trickery led him to give Douglas an inheritance. Grandma dying left him vulnerable and then his Grandkids "dying" to unfortunate circumstances probably tipped him over the edge.I need to also point out that Renee withheld paying for Wren's eye surgery. If Andrew had something wrong as a baby I bet Grandpa probably would have done something about it instead of calling Renee and Douglas poor.
>>573022371>That's fanfic.Nigga, did you play 3A?
>>573022671Please cite where it says that Grandpa ran a butcher business and that Andrew was given an under-the-table job there despite his legal status as a dead man. As well as explain why the cult has connections to "butchers" and Andrew, loosely associated with the cult in both routes in some form, is a "butcher".
my thoughts?nemlei is going to use wren as a stand-in for surface level bringing light to the alt-right problem within the fanbase and touch on radicalization/grooming of zoomers that are chronically onlinebut that's just my thoughts of course.
A nice Andrew/Ashley fic about parenthood.https://archiveofourown.org/works/87931356
>>573023048Andrew was working as an accountant before the quarantine as revealed by Lord Unknown's mind probe. The job at the butcher must be something he got after being declared dead that was willing to pay cash in hand. There's no direct evidence the cult is connected to it. They buy pig's blood from a butcher somewhere, but one would think they would just use the proper thing if the butcher was part of the cult's network.
>>573023048>Please cite where it says that Grandpa ran a butcher businessWhy are you asking me to prove something irrelevant? You said that Andrew working for his grandpa's company was fanfiction, which is blatantly untrue. What kind of Chewbacca defence is this? Whether Grandpa Graves runs a butcher shop neither proves nor disproves that Andrew was working at his grandfather's company.
>>573023351Concession accepted.
>>573023476Is Andrew having worked at this grandfather's company fanfiction? Yes or no.
>>573023342There is no direct evidence but there's definitely connections and lines to be drawn.>but one would think they would just use the proper thing if the butcher was part of the cult's networkAnd why wouldn't Andrew become the start of that network?
>>573023476Anon, it's a simple question. Is Andrew having worked at his grandfather's company fanfiction?
>>573023476>>573024137I was going to respond but I see you're being a fucking faggot about it. This discussion is about post-quarantine btw, and I think you're trying to imply things about pre-quarantine.
>>573023803That's possible but I lean against it. Andrew hates the cannibalism and butchering bodies and wouldn't do it unless he was forced to. Andrew also doesn't like demon shit, and in the routes we see entanglement with demons creates serious problems for the siblings. If they're in a stable situation they're probably also avoiding any kind of risky criminal activity. Again it's possible, but I lean against it.
>>573024226This discussion is about what you said.
>>573020940this thread is mostly female, and women have no sense of patriotism
>>573024313In this theoretical route Andrew could be mentally and morally degraded enough to not see problems dealing with demons anymore (a Cliffhanger bad end) or throwing away all caution for the singular goal of having Ashley (burial bad end). I'm looking between the lines of the preview instead of taking it on face value.But more realistically it could be a fancy vision because I really don't think Nemlei would just throw an ending out as a full scene preview.
>>573024226>you're being a fucking faggot about itYou're the one who said "Concession accepted" after being called out on a Chewbacca defence btw
>intentionally misunderstanding
The first part of this video here has some speculation on the legal matters Kit9 could be referring to:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5TwZLRRt8c
>>573025117How is this an intentional misunderstanding? I'm a passerby and saw Anon give a quote "Andrew was working at his (grandpas) company", which he described as fanfiction. His job when giving a direct quote is to provide context for what he is responding to, so if he did not include any further useful context in the section he chose to quote, that implies that the section he chose to quote is what he is attacking and no further. Therefore, Anon is conveying that Andrew never worked at his grandfather's company.
>>573024751>Andrew could be mentally and morally degraded enough to not see problems dealing with demons anymoreThe problem with this is that it isn't just about what Andrew or Ashley are willing to accept. Demons we've seen aren't satisfied with a casual relationship with the siblings. ??? wants the siblings to be its slaves doing nothing but harvesting souls with it all day. What Lord Unknown wants is unclear but it's safe to assume it cares as little for Andrew or Ashley as ??? does, even if it's smarter about how it goes about achieving its goals.>throwing away all caution for the singular goal of having AshleySaving her from what? If they've escaped the sodajews and don't need to keep feeding the trinket to avoid the consequences of what they've done to feed the trinket they can just safely lay low. Hell, they can do that even in Shots and Such where they have committed all sorts of horrific crimes.
>>573020940I presume most Americans are out blowing stuff up with their sisters.
I want to rape and murder Nemlei
>>573027192Why?
>>573027237Mind your own business bud
>>573025584>Demons we've seen aren't satisfied with a casual relationship with the siblings.It's rare to see someone that isn't weird enough to think Lord Unknown is a benevolent philanthropist when he's definitely working on his own amoral and uncaring goals.In Decay Cliffhanger's case like I suggested for Andrew's moral degradation, I could think of some tl;dr ways to bring the preview about. All of which involve Lord Unknown and Andrew failing to see reason use common sense.>Saving her from what?It's not about saving her. It's about HAVING her. We've already seen that he's getting dangerously possessive of her in the previous (presumed Burial) preview and he has no real problems with what happened with the parents. He just doesn't care anymore and wants Ashley.
>>573027192We know HeavyBerry
Andrew taking Anti Depressants, feeling happy for a little bit, and then blowing his brains out right after.
>>573028459Andrew could easily raise his dopamine levels by sucking on Ashley's titties.
>>573028459Andrew just drinks alcohol like depressed men did in the good old days
>>573029424Don't forget beating his wife.
>>573031687It happens to the best of us.
Nuggley...
Andrew "hates kids", yet they have a child. Does that mean Ashley wanted the child? Maybe she's always wanted to be a mommy? Some have said that she wanted the child to chain Andrew to her, but Andrew's already chained. In Shots and Such he came back to her voluntarily, "like an addict". He's not going anywhere.
>>573033283/calg/ foretold that Ashley growing plants signified maternal energy.
>>573033283Andrew's son isn't "a kid," he's Andrew's son. It hits different.
>>572984935maternity wards are nefarious places, some nursoids and doctors are pieces of shit
>>573005891>>573006139She gets this powerful craving and devours the fart cloud.
What if the hitman's car was the Bat Mobile? After Andrew and Ashley shoot him they take his keys and have the Bat Mobile waiting for them? They have to drive around and hide from the police in the Bat Mobile?
>>573033283Ashley wanted to have a son that she can force to put out since andrew very rarely is in the mood
>>573033283It was actually Andrew baby trapping Ashley.
>>573035462Based
>>573033283It was mutual baby trapping, and as we know two negatives make a positive, so neither one got baby trapped.
>>573036467>both try to baby trap the other but neither one *actually* wants the kid>they sacrifice wren to ???
>>573037038>It backfires, ??? gets sacrificed to Wren instead
Wren's cataract is actually a Byakugan
Ashley and Wren being chuunis together much to the chagrin of Andrew
>be me>play coffin>sister say sex>sex>good
>>573037921>Wren: *swallows ??? whole*>Ashley: Who's a good Wrenny? Who's a good Wrenny? You are!
>>573020341>Parents likely alive through demonic intervention reviving themLord Unknown said he can't bring back the dead and I doubt the our hungry taki-eating friendly neighborhood fart cloud could either.I fucked up posting this two times...
>>573039208>>573039363I saw that.. Both times...
>>573035462>Oh no, Andrew! You grabbed me by the hips before cumming and now I am completely trapped! Please don't impregnate me! Don't cum inside me 4 consecutive times to make sure!
>>573039552H-huh? You saw what, there are no such posts in this thread you schizo! You saw nothing. You didn't... Shut up.
>>573039646Andrew cumming in everywhere he can just in case. He cums inside her proper hole, her asshole, her mouth, her belly button, her face, her ears and nose. Wren HAD to exist.
>>573039936>her proper hole, her assholeRedundant.
>>573039534I think it has to be a nightmare of Renee's. It's from her perspective, even though she's meant to be dead, and since LU can't revive the dead, this has to be a memory from the past.
https://x.com/kennyidk7/status/2073595536398319879
Guys I'm scared of Andrew's think death...Nemlei better make him manly as fuck.
>>573040464twink death*
one generation of incest is okay right...?
>>573040464>>573040546Andrew already had a think death
>>573040328Wren sprite AND it's dancing?? What is this, Christmas?!>>573040464Don't worry fatherhood makes wonder, if every man became a dad there would remain no passive gays.>>573040585GOD FUCKING DAMN YOU HACKLEI
>>573021401I just wanted Ameribros to have fun...I thought July 4th was meant to be a day full of fun energy...
>>573040585One generation of inbreeding even with close relatives has surprisingly low risk, repetition is where it goes wrong because you stack probabilities.I wouldn't actually recommended it as intentional mating choice but if you find out you are actually inbred then it's not something you need to freak out over. any potential problems from inbreeding are resolved by simply mating with someone less related.If you really really want a child with your close relative you need to take a hard look at the data and decide if it's a risk level you can tolerate.
>>573041435American has been shit since the mid 2010s, so there isn't much of a reason to celebrate for me.
>>573041470>because you stack probabilitiesNot quite. You have to remember that any bad allele has a 50% chance of being flushed out each generation. And if the initial gene pool is of a high standard, the bloodline can inbreed indefinitely anyways.
>>573041636Inbreeding can be exploited to rapidly purge out actively deleterious genes, it's a self correcting system if you have the time and resources.and is used a lot for lab animals and livestock breeding.I think from what I remember the risk is like 6-8% compared to a base level of about 2% for unrelated couples
>>573040328Wren WILL sit-crouch everywhere like L Lawliet Ryuzaki and the fujos WILL love him
>>573041435>I thought July 4th was meant to be a day full of fun energy...It was once.
>>573041901>>573041470so what ur saying is i could have sex w/ my dad if it ended up happening and its mostly fine?
>>573042742According to a large british natives genetic study 1 in 3500 people were found to be the children of either siblings or parent and child, they found no real class difference in these inbreeding rates. Which is an incredibly high number when you really think about it. Assuming these results track to other populations at a similar rate we must regularly interact with people like this.So yes, you could have children with your dad and they would be mostly normal. Plenty of other things actually have worse risks like alcohol, pollution, drugs, aged mothers people who already have genetic conditions.
So... there's a burial route in the next update where Andrew and Ashley don't kill their parents.And for some reason Renee doesn't immediately call a hitman to kill her children like she does in another route.And I guess Andrew knocks up Ashley and they decide to keep it.Renee refuses to help pay for cataract removal and the kid's eye ends up permanently fucked up leading to Wren having one eye covered by hair.I'm just shocked we're getting like a 10 year timeskip to see the kid grown up. That's way beyond what I expected.
Me and my sister got drunk as shit last night and rode around town in my street bike chasing fireworks and im amazed we're not dead
>>573027192You and the rest of us
>>573035462Mpregdrew...
>>573042742You can't because that's gay.
>>573043391>According to a large british natives genetic study 1 in 3500 people were found to be the children of either siblings or parent and childHoly fucking shit I looked it up, this is real.>they found no real class difference in these inbreeding ratesWhat I found did not say this though. It says "a 44% higher risk of being diagnosed with any kind of disease", that several of their key biological functions "scored between 0.3% and 0.7% standard deviations below the population mean", and also that obviously only ones who reached a healthy adulthood participated.I'm not trying to argue, I'm just really interested in the /calg/ claim of incest being very rarely or barely hazardous and deleterious. Could you elaborate on those points anon?
>>573041470>>573041636>>573041901>>573042742>>573043391Wrong. Andrew and Ashley's 1 generation inbred baby had a birth defect. It's over. Stats will never trump the eye test. Nemlei has made her position clear
>>573046095Relative risk vs absolute risk is important to consider.I've not read the paper in ages though. Remember I said mostly normal.There's a really interesting paper about Icelandic birth records something like kinship and fertility from maybe 2008. They showed that actually 3rd or 4th cousins were something like a more optimal relatedness with the highest long term fertility.
>>573046598>3rd or 4th cousinsThat is not even a cousin at that point. Where I'm from we don't even have a concept of anything beyond a first cousin, anyone more distant is a vague family friend.
>>573046634Andrew after getting Ashley pregnant with their second retarded incest baby
>>573046743>Where I'm fromYou can't say that then NOT say where you're from. Now I'm curious
>>573046812I will NOT be called slurs on the Finnish incest forum
>>573046878Brazilbro? Dude, don't worry about the /pol/shitter. We don't negotiate with terrorists. You're all cool in my book
>>573046771There is no retardation. Wren's eye was damaged because the stork that brought him accidentally pecked the poor beybey's eye.
>>573046965Fuck no. And I don't like South Americans either.Let's get back on topic, here's a cute Flusteredshley. She's flustered, for context.
>>573047170Ah, ok. So you're either Koreabro or Turkbro. That's actually pretty interesting that you don't have more than first cousins over there. Is there just not a word for it?
andy and leyley rabbit plushies when?
>>573047881NEVER FUCKING EVERAnd don't you DARE think about making your own
>>573046598That's good. I've just been curious about the subject for the last few months. Before that I just took /calg/ for her word and believed it's modern normgroid exaggeration (and it primarily is, in particular socially) but no matter how much I looked into it I haven't found any real scientific substance to the claim that inbreeding between first degree relatives was almost as safe as outbreeding, which is usually what /calg/ claims, provided that it's not an accumulation of inbreeding.It also doesn't help that I'm not a paper-reader type of learner but rather a "see everyone's arguments and decide who's right afterwards" type of guy.
>>573047881>>573047967
>>573047547>T*rkbroFUCK NO-- aw shit I gave it away now...>That's actually pretty interesting that you don't have more than first cousins over there.I'm pretty sure the rest of the world also doesn't have that type of deep genealogical detail, even if they do consider them cousins they'd just call them "cousins" I believe. My family calls any type of distant relative "a distant cousin" so they don't really have that separate concept in the first place.
>>573023183That would be absolutely wild. I don't think she would handle the issue with grace tho. she would just have him be comically pathetic, Kinda like how she handled douchebag, who was based on some yter IIRC.
>>573023183>>573048907But Wren isn't a chud. He's a open minded "love is love" independent who is dating his high school English teacher
ok lets try decay >>573047967>>573048232wth but they r so cute theyd be friends w/ my other rabbit stuffed animals
>>573023183Your post reeks of newfag/irregular. Maybe you should tell your theory to your "oomfs" on Twatter instead.
>>573049319The real answer is that Nemlei said she'd make merch after the game was fully done. But this was like 2 years ago and there's at LEAST another year left. Since development is already paused, I think she should just get the merch started now
>>573048232Gonna tell newfags this was the Queen of Calgee
>>573040546I'm scared of my own twink death ΤΒΗ
>>573049472ok i will be eagerly waiting for some merch!! go nemlei
>>573039534
>>573047547Turkbro? There is a Turk other than me here who is well known enough to get a name? How many sisters does this nigga have?
>>573050425>There is a Turk other than me here who is well known enough to get a name?No, I think it's just you. But are /calg/arians are my bros
Has Wren topped the /nemg/ Nemboy list?
>>573050425The other roach has left since the recent census shows 1 in Turkey and the census before it showed 2. He was a r*dditor who somehow found his way down here but it seems he left thank God.
>>573051223>Has Wren toppedNo
>>573046095>>they found no real class difference in these inbreeding ratesIt points out that there's no sign of it being more common in health deprived families or among people with less education, which is a decent if imperfect proxy for class.
>>573052524>censusYou mean the one you couldn't take without logging in, thus making more than half of /calg/'s population boycott it?
Ashley must truly love anal
Kurdbro has been here before the Roachbro, he is there in the third /calg/ census while there is no Turkey at all. I salute thee Kurdbro.Also looking at old /calg/ in the archives I saw>BAKE D'NOUVEAU!!!Holy nostalgia. Why don't we say that anymore?
>>573053317Thanks but I was there before that census too, I just didn't participate before. Maybe the Turk did the same.
>>573053317>BAKE D'NOUVEAU!!!WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NEW BREADMan... Good times, we even had an Andrew bust with a bread in his mouth and everything. There were a couple of bread baking picrels on /calg/, I don't have all of them.
>>573047170>And I don't like South Americans either.Your loss. Brazilbros make the best Coffin stuff, and their women are the hottest slutshttps://youtu.be/ULo4dg4s1uQ
If we're posting censuses, might as well post the oldest one from Episode 1 days. The countries here were determined based on the respondent's IP, not their answer.
>>573049638take estrogen and t-blockers or man up and accept baldness
>>573054076>Polish brothers and sistersNice! I know Poland mostly by Teen Kasia
>>573054076Interesting that there was an Israeli here before me, I took part in all the censuses except the first one.
>>573053915Meh this one is betterhttps://youtu.be/pM6mifS2BmE
>>573043451>Renee doesn't immediately call a hitman to kill her childrenThat's Toxisoda, not Renee
>>573053915Like the hit game Baker Bros's Quarantine!https://store.steampowered.com/app/3310540/Baker_Bross_Quarantine/It's such a shame that one dev with the blue cat OC stole their game, some people have no decency huh?
>>573053915Black Kino.
>>573055065Its really good stuff. Brazilbros are the coolest friends
Whatever you tell yourself, José...
Ashley truly giving off motherly vibes with her plantsIs Nemlei pregnant or wanting for a kid?
>>573051223*ahem*
>>573055895We already went through this several times, anon. The Graves are slavs with jewish blood from Renee's side
>>573051223
