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an OOC just flew over my house
>>573010280ocarina of castletown
I LOVE TV!
why are the threads so slow is it because the americans are celebrating?
>>573010280Ralsei started smoking weed and dressing like a whore over my house.
like 95% sure that if i were so stacked i had back problems, id just trans or maybe claim cancer took em
>>573010218Omega Flowey and Asriel are better bosses than Sans if I'm being real https://youtube.com/watch?v=TDZ1eHLPuEU
>its another “Aqua starts blurting out all the weird new games she played with Anon” in front of the other flowers episode
i will paint
our hero Cunningham is streaming chapter 5 again
>>573010354im not celebrating im playing fear and hunger 2 termina
>>573010405Me, too.
The word "nobody" in Undertale refers to the soulless unfeeling half of Flowey, all of the most significant uses of it operate within this context.>But nobody cameWhen Flowey first gained sentience in the garden, the memories and emotions of Asriel that still lingered inside of him instinctively cried out expecting someone to come to his aid. When he says that nobody came, there's a dual meaning to it. Obviously it means that he was literally left alone in the garden even after crying for help, but it also means that the feeling of emptiness inside of him was the only thing that "arrived" for him. This can be similarly applied to the use of the phrase throughout the rest of the genocide route; the complete lack of enemies evokes within Frisk a complete lack of emotion identical to Flowey. There are several other theories that support this reading but I digress.>The friendly RPG where nobody has to dieI feel like explaining why this tagline from the trailer is relevant isn't even necessary considering what happens immediately after that text shows up, but it's simple enough I might as well: every ending in Undertale requires the soulless aspect of Flowey to die in some capacity either literally or figuratively. The neutral ending has you either break him down so badly that the "nobody" in him is genuinely unable to cope with your decision to let him live, or just kill him pretty straightforwardly. In the genocide ending you start tapping into the Asriel half of Flowey by reminding him of Chara through your actions, and this ends up causing him to feel real fear for the first time once he finally catches on to the gravity of the situation. By the point that he's begging you not to kill him, the "nobody" no longer exists, and you are basically just killing Asriel in that moment. True pacifist is ironically enough a sort of bittersweet parallel of his metaphorical death in the genocide ending, but the word count is running out so I can't elaborate.Thoughts?
>>573010405painter *sniff* y-youre back?
Why is every Ralsei dialogue option:>(I want that ass).>(Lick your elbows and gnaw on em a little).
>>573010110https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRFom8SvKXI
>>573010141>>573010216Anons, you're displaying reading comprehension above the allowed limit. I'm going to have to ask that you report for stimmies and chocomilk treatment
Fuck this, I'm done. Chapter 5 ruined Deltarune. It's over. CoL was right. Homer Simpson was right. I'm gonna go play Dragon Quest.
bro is losing his goddamn mind
confession to father alvin: i liked trans guy ralsei headcanons up until this chapter where he's wearing a dress and liking it. i'm still of the belief it's a ghost monster situation a la mettaton, where ralsei was formed as a genderless tool and decided it needed to fulfill one part of the prophecy so ralsei became the male of the party and that's why he was insecure at times. but now it's becoming an "i am a boy experimenting with being a girl" story instead of "i am a tool experimenting with being closer to sentience and understanding roles"
>>573010562>kuck kardlollmao
>>573010403some nice cute and wholesome games right anon?
>Lightners are humans / monsters>Darkners are objects>Plants wind up somewhere in betweenWhat about animals? Does my pet cat become a Lightner or something else?
it's pretty cool that this thing flashes like it's being hurt when it casts ice magic
Best Flower Man cover without contest https://youtu.be/KFDw8DCYixc
>>573008531Being able to draw with an actual pen instead of a mouse feels so much better
>>573010629Mr. Dink ass cat
>What a fool you are! >I'm a god!>How can you kill a god?! >How could you be so naive?>Come! Lay down your weapons. It is not too late for my MERCY™
he's so cute
I say this with full intent in my heart that Flowey is THE most important boss character because he isn't just an obstacle in the way. He is there to challenge the Fun Gang's very ideals and make them PROVE that their will is stronger. That (you), Susie and Ralsei should be allowed to be called "protagonists" and carry the narrative forward.
I need Mew Mew fapfics… Now!
>>573010770>ged oubt...>and dobt com back...
>>573010770Kinda nice, makes me feel fuzzy inside
>>573010629Kriscels, how do you respond without sounding mad?
>>573010842Flowey isnt in the game
>>573010468>considering what happens immediately after that text shows upwhat? what happens?
>broken sword route where you spare for the rest of the game>the Queen left wondering why you were such a giant asshole to her dark world specifically
>>573010827hilariously, all of the burgerpants humiliation trio think he's cute EXCEPT bratty
>>573010473she’s the one of the few drawfags who never announces themselves
>>573010936Fuck, I meant Flowery *cries*
So can Flowery actually just spare Ralsei and Susie in his fight? The fuck was up with that
I look like this. Who want me?
>>573011061He just fucks with the UI, which is how he gives himself fake stats
>>573009914 #I honestly think chapter 3 and chapter 5 did more for the story than chapter 4 did. Because Chapter 3 does a much better job at explaining how lighteners and darkners interact with each other and built up to flowers progressing their own wills in the dark.Chapter 5 has Flowery play with the rules of the dark world much more than anyone else, explore the consequences of shutting them down, introduce two kinds of lightner-darkner hybrids and how they function, gives us a better grasp of the knight’s power in ways that enhances our understandings of dark crystals and Darkner rules, etc. It doesn’t help that chapter 3 and 5 Darkners actually have lores, arcs, and developments better than chapter 1, 2, and 4 Darkners.In other words. somehow the dykes, Susie and Noelle, drain out so much time and energy from the story, and oddly feel less relevant to the Knight than Tenna and Flowery were. Tenna was at least helping it for the entire chapter. Asgore and Flowery are very aware of its existence and were its biggest threats to shutting that chick down. And bizarrely remained that way when she took them both out.
>>573010842This is what people don't get about the "do you believe your fantasy more valuable than ours" scene. He already knows that yes, the prophecy can only go one way, and the heroes are fated to close his fountain. Like everything else he does, he's trying to defy an inevitability, force Ralsei to confront the reality of his actions and bet on the slim chance he'll concede or be shaken up enough to lose
Which Deltarune character would be a looksmaxxer?
>>573010827I'm happy for him that the mail-order kits to make you more rectangular work in this universe.
>>573010403>kee hee hee! anon taught me about the six seven game!! I don't understand, but it's fun! fun!
>>573010842Their ideals werent stronger, Flowery would have defeated them if not for Asgore stepping in. Susie is not at all focused, Ralsei is severely doubting herself, and Kris is full of shit.
>>573010532The goofy choices are Kris's way of defusing the homo pseudo incest tension Ralsei keeps building up
>>573011107you look like you’re worth 10 dokis
>Just realized Susie kicked Lancer out of his room next to her to put Noelle, the girl who will never sleep there, next to her bedroomWow what an actual fucking cunt.
>>573011061>>573011135He did it to spare the enemies you used to make it harder for you to mercy run him.
>>573010980>he doesn't know
>>573011139That's all about fleshing out the mechanics of the world, not developing the plot. Although Chapter 3 did develop the plot a fair bit, definitely more than chapter 5.
>>573009914Ch3 was about fully establishing the Fun Gang's group dynamic because we barely got much time where all 3 were together and chilling as friends until that point.Also it wasn't a fun adventure because Tenna kept trauma dumping his and Kris's issues onto them
>>573010473Shes not gonna let you eat her out bro
>>573011197Kicked Lancer's bike out of its room*
What if monster souls don't exist in Deltarune (there's been no evidence so far besides vibes/assumptions) because all the monsters are humans who lost their soul.... and the same thing will happen to kris
>>573011197Lancer hates lesbians. This was revealed in the ARG.
>>573010878You must write, anon…
>>573011303Lancer is bisexual though (canon)
>>573011141Why does he bother trying to convince Ralsei it's worth doing anything to fight the outcome of the prophecy if he also believes it's inevitable?
>>573011197Lancers room is actually just gone from the start of the chapter, they fucking threw him away the moment Toby was done using him to explain stone darkners
>>573011287ew dude she’s like a kid
>>573010901Thank you
sex with this cat>>573010554people usually get hung up really bad on dramatic irony in these games but I remember they've read 0 books before this so it makes sense
>>573011139KEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>573011259vaguebro
I'm PISSED
>>573011152>Mewers Livenext question
>>573011326Lancer thinks that bisexual means that you marry bikes.
The wind in the background of the festival hometown music is interesting when you compare it to the weird route hometown music, which has carol's icy breath/wind sounds in the background. This means... I don't know. It's there.
>>573011261this is Hunter X Hunter right
Sorry Flowery, I was just playing youYou actually made me realize that being showered in unwanted affection is cringe
>>573010980She’s also a bitch who doesn’t care when you compliment her art
>>573011397Me too! Toby’s next game had better be Cat Breeders or I’m going postal
>>573010629He's talked like this since chapter 1, down to calling Asriel Douglas
>>573011261Ralsei in Togashi's style reminds me of Kurapika, the only femboy I ever truly loved
>>573011505At a glance I think its the king of Kakin and Ralsei is replacing Kurapika
>>573011152
>>573010532kekkkkkkk
>>573010468how the fuck does a flower cum
>>573011364people really need to read more books right fucking now. it would solve so many problems of people misinterpreting things in stories like this.>>573011505yep.
>>573011601Douglas knight
>>573011521brodie is an art incel
>>573010629Catdad deliberately misnames Kris, with a gendered name no less, as payback for Kris upsetting his daughter when they stopped being her friend. He's been playing the long game.
I can feel the layers of my own psyche being slowly peeled away
>>573011521Maybe she can tell you're a retarded normiefag fakecel complimenting her art to try and win favors, instead of enjoying the implied aroma of Spamton's undermoob sweat and the fluffy cloudscape of his ass cellulite and decorative angel wings.
>>573011162Ralsei can tweak his stats to go super sayan and break the entire game too if he wanted. He could've easily burnt Flowery to a crisp any time but he's holding back because he's a coward. and unlike Flowery, Ralsei is some kind of exception to other Darkners. Like a gamemaster whose own powers can override a self aware darkner using hax to get infinite stats.
>>573011601no no, he means kris' biological brother douglashe's the in-universe equivalent of the togore meme, trust
>>573011364>>573011708There are no good stories to read. I don't want to read about some random fag, I want Deltarune
>>573011334Because his whole thing is fighting for his dreams, man. He was granted life and the ability to do something after spending ~18 years in Asgore's care, he's going to make the most of it, even if it means struggling against the world itself. It's the same reason he charges into battle against the Knight even while exhausted
I need catgirl pussy so bad it hurts bros… Im dying, send help
>>573011698That's what pollen is.
So, seriously, what WAS the incident?>A dark world was opened a long time ago by the Knight (Or some being with a weapon also made out of Black Shards)>Dess disappeared in this dark world>"lost where the forest would grow the children followed the pointed tail"'s most common interpretation implies that Dess and Kris went to the shelter>Asgore implies he entered the Dark World himself, stating "It really is... a different color, isn't it?"The thing is, for Asgore to have found the Black shard, "It was left... at the... original scene..." implies that the Dark World was sealed, no? Who fucking sealed it?What the fuck?I'm guessing:>Kris and Dess follow FRIEND to the shelter. Someone opens a fountain (Dess maybe if she is the knight? Friend themselves? Gaster?), Kris and Dess are in the dark world. Asgore arrives in the dark world for a period of time before it is closed (By who? Kris? Did it just do it naturally?). After it is closed, Asgore finds the black shard? Years later the shelter fountain is reopened and this is when the Knight begins acting? Maybe?Idk. Any ideas?
>>573011763Please don't associate us, the incel community, with other people you don't like. All it does perpetuate harmful stereotypes about people without sexual activity.
I don't even hate chapter 5 but how the fuck do you defend lancer never showing up during a segment all about chapter 1 callbacks
>>573011708Let's start a /utg/ book club, every week we can recommend a different book and nag people to go and read them so we can talk about them. It'll be a fun trust building exercise.
>>573011819Joseph Joseph BulkyDelta on rune perky
>>573011521painter is desensitized to it
>>573011823And yet he died anyway and his dreams are over, worse, the Flowers are now probably gonna die. Doesn't seem like it was worth it
>>573011860Only humans can close the fountains so it had to have been Kris
Noelle when Susie tries to drag her back to castle town to play pretend in the dark
>>573011334He doesn't think the prophecy is inevitable, he's trying to teach Ralsei that feeling like something is inevitable is giving up without even trying. That there could be a slim chance to change fate.
>>573011763Sorry nigganon, but this is a white-only thread. Learn to speak like a civilized human being.
>>573011828which type of cat girlgirl cats>catti>catty>cat momcat girl>pink>pink (ghost)tasque manger>tasque manageryou have options
>>573011334He wants to inspire Ralsei to do the impossible, break the unbreakablerow row fight the powah
>>573011819Don QuixoteIt's like the most story-esque of classic literature you can read right now
>>573011860The thing is only (we) can seal the fountains
>>573011779How do you have such insight into her state of mind?
>>573012038>It would be made funnyUnironically what I believe DessKnight's motivation is
>>573011932Lancer would have been a good addition but he might have thought there were already too many characters as it is
>>573011841>Kris: AWOOOOOGA AWOOOOOOGA BARK BARK BARK GRRRRRRRRR DONK TONGUE ROLLS OUT OF MOUTH AND ONTO THE FLOOR
>>573011963>Doesn't seem like it was worth itIt was worth it to him, which is the point. It's what he wanted to do with the time he was given. He only gives up after Asgore himself goes>no way fag.And they were going to die anyways independent of his actions, the Knight was always going to kidnap Asgore and leave them without a caretaker.
I feel like the antlers on the Knight's Helmet just gives it away.That said, it's not like they can saw them off and put them back on.
>tfw Pink's fight is my favorite secret fight nowEverything just coleuses so god damn well. The idol theming, the banging music, how difficult the attacks are. It's just electric.
>>573012128Obesespamtonfags have a telepathic mindnet we can access due to a PSI-stimulating kromer compound found in the pipis
>>573010634Mettaton also likes wearing a dress in Undertale though. Personally I think Ralsei is FtM (formless mass of darkness to male) because of his role in the prophecy, but he admires how Kris plays with their presentation in addition to the other things he admires about them so there's a possibility he could shift to being nonbinary or genderfluid or whatever. But I don't get the vibe that he wants to be a girl so much as he doesn't want to be forced to be a prince and wants to have the kind of agency he perceives Kris as having, despite Kris ironically not actually having much agency at all. He made a wardrobe full of options for Kris because he wants that same "customization" for himself. He still enjoys presenting as male depending on the context, which he pretty much spells out with the butler costume.
>>573011841The game will end with Noelle realizing that sexy cosplay is the perfect amount of crazy for her.
>>572988907>Your beard was all used up.
>>573012049nah bronado
>>573012270you're her aren't you
(His flesh is stretched out as a sacrifice.)
>>573011860I was going to say that Dark World was probably the Shelter and never closed, but then Asgore could physically point to it so it must've been sealed at some point and it probably wasn't the Shelter
>>573012270Fascinating
>>573011932he was busy being a ball have some respect
>>573012329anon she died 2 weeks ago
>>573011162Asgore stepping in was itself the divine mandate of the narrative(/prophecy) choosing us over the flowers
>>573011860The soul is needed to close the fountain, but nowhere is it stated that it has to be a human soulTheres no point theorizing when the story just makes up rules for the mcguffin as it goes
>>573012394You can only have good sex if the person you're having it with is all four of these at the same time. Said politics bear.
>>573012038>Noelle: I guess Dess really wasn't the best person, Kris>Kris: She literally molested me 700 times
What kind of Ferris Wheel has cabs that only fit 2 people?
>>573012204did you mean "coalesce"
>>573012374
>>573012105>>573012004This is what I'm a bit hung up on, I forgot, is it only ANY human soul can seal a fountain or it is only OUR/Kris soul that can seal a fountain? Because if it is only OUR soul that means >We somehow sealed it (Chapter 0?)>The Shelter fountain was never sealed (How did Asgore get the black shard then? Why wouldn't Asgore just bring people to the shelter if the Dark World is open inside of it? Why did the Knight only begin their actions now?)>The Dark World wasn't at the shelter (Still has to answer how it was or wasn't sealed?)>The fountain was sealed someway we don't know about yet/Kris' normal soul before we appeared was used to seal it.
>>573012329No, but I am exuding rage due to Shitter's bots autosuspending my porn bookmark lurker accounts and making it impossible to access Japanese Privatter posts of femboy Spamton NEO in a sexy nun outfit.
>>573012603the kind that get packed up and driven to small town fairs
>>573012650thanks toothpaste nerd
https://x.com/fehdubs/status/2073581937940189184oh god
>>573010634>>573012289I feel like if Toby intended Ralsei to be a trans woman he wouldn't make it so the LovelyBoy act is so important to use in the Pink/Mad Mew Mew fight, as Pink is confirmed to be trans woman representation and it would be weird to play in hindsight, repeatedly misgendering Ralsei in the Pink fight, if Ralsei was intended to be MTF.
>>573010965If you beat the trashy trio in chapter 5 then at the start of chapter 6, Trashy will say, "Boss, thanks to you, I became stronger! Also I found this weird pointy ring stuck to me. You can have it! Hyuck!" and everyone who bricked their saves with an abort2 run will feel really stupid.
>>573012658>>573012374>Ice-E hyped up as a cryptid for 4 chapters and the ARG>No diffed by Normal_NPC and turned into a wallpaper Can anyone stop this fucker???
>>573012658red nose...
>>573012693Ok, but why do Kris, Susie, and Noelle only go on it once?They couldn't take turns?
>>573012726that's really cute
>>573011860The entire lake is full of darkness which spreads to the sewer system. Creating a Dark Fountain means literally stabbing the ground to release the water.The Shelter is how you access the sewers.
>>573012812>seth and blue using the gun instead of the book and shoes
>>573012791Is there ANYBODY who can stop the Hometown Butcher at this rate?
>>573012869Sans is a dick
>>573012765That's really stupid so I believe it>>573012726I'm at AX and I saw another Aqua there, people work really fast
Good night PinKris nation how we dreaming tonighr?
>only 2 chapters left>still so much lore and shit we don’t know or have seen>still 0 explanation on why Kris is the only human in the entire gameWill toby be able to cram our decade old questions in two chapters? I feel like ive learned more about Noelle in the weird route than the normal one
bratty deltarune
>>573012930Would you kiss a cat girl anime figurine with a ghost in it?>Yes>Yes
>>573012204I just beat her again a couple minutes ago. It really is a lot of fun. I honestly wish she was a little bit tougher, though, as the final secret boss...
>>573012726I don't know why but this video sent a brainwave into my skull that made me see every single Homestuck cosplay video I've ever seen in my entire life play inside my brain all at once
>>573012915MY Hero will stop him and save Hometown.
Fountains being able to be opened by any sharp object by anyone anywhere makes the mystery so boring. Not much better than the ARG where Toby just asked us how many fingers is he holding behind his back.
How much stuff like this do you think is already in deltarune
>>573012740Usually if you're going to gradually reveal that a character is transgender, you continue to use their assigned at birth pronouns until they're fully out of the closet. Ralsei hasn't said that he's transgender yet (assuming that that's actually what Toby is going for) so of course he's still called a boy.
>>573012915The cops are no use.Maybe the Knight.I don't know which of them has more powerful cheats though.
>>573010726I assume the shinobeetles are just regular beetles living in the flower soil that ended up in the dark world and gained sentience as a result so I think the answer is yes.
>>573012982He has the whole thing written out anon. This game literally exists for the ending he imagined.
>>573013049zero because dataminers
>>573011280I don’t really think chapter 1-2 and 4 developed the plot at all. Nothing was really gained or explored in 4. It was just an aura chapter that had one relevant Gerson character and a whole bunch of forgettables. Chapter 3 explores the knight and Kris in them actually once playing together to make thee dark worlds before they were seperated.Rouxls, King, Jevil, Lancer, and Seam are pretty cool characters that all feel relevant and aware. But their darkners are legitimately incredibly disconnected from King’s perspective that the narrative it has is extremely weak and horribly undermined. Without Ramb and King making his speeches, it would’ve been completely erased.Chapter 2 only had Berdly, Spamton, and the Addisons being the only good characters in it. And the whole dark narrative of Queen and her mistreatment and sci-fi horrors on her own loyal subjects is completely undermined, like it never happened. They feel like complete filler characters of the chapter 4 Darkners.The biggest issue is that Tenna and Flowery tackle on the ideas of freedom and relationships better than the other chapters in the game. How Tenna and Flowery tackle their subjects has serious consequences for their dark worlds. Tenna’s dark world was practically dying right in front of you and become so much more horrific. Flowery’s dark world refuses to die until Asgore himself speaks up about his wishes for its fate.Nothing like this happens in chapter 1, 2, and 4. The majority of the actions committed by the heroes and antagonists are ultimately fruitless.
>>573012875Good old toilet theory... I agree, but then what is up with the whole the incident involving someone making a fountain. If the shelter already had a fountain/didn't "have" a fountain and instead was a dark world because of its links to the depths, then why would a black shard be there? Or is it that the black shard wasn't a remnant of the fountain opening but something else (Knight transformation?)
>>573013062But replaying chapters you'd be retroactively misgendering him
The whole thing of "Ralsei wants to keep the hat off because it symbolizes him accepting who he really is" will literally never sit right with me because he designed in a way where that WOULDNT apply. With the hat he looks like his own person, without he looks like an Asriel clone. He has a design specifically made with the appeal of a pre-existing character, him having the hat off only makes him LESS of his own person
>>573012915ENTER
I need your best and clearest references of Noelle, I know there’s some on model purists here and that’s what I need.
>>573012915>Hometown ButcherAll the dark passanger talk is just him parroting Gaster bitching about being a cabby for his dayjob
>>573012915i missed pardoposting
>>573013189i don't care dude hatless ralsei is fluffy and cute
Why couldnt yellow be the black one. I wanna cosplay Deltarune without looking retarded AND gay.
>>573013154That would still be when he's in the closet though. It's fine.
>>573013003Triple yes
>>573013204Can't do better than the in-game sprite
>>573013219I love this fuckhead so much. His jarona is just too divine.
>>573013049Explain. I will NOT play any game that isn't made by Toby Fox. I am NOT an entertainmentslut.
>>573013145I think what that anon was referring to was foreshadowing actually>>573013049well considering "lake skip" was sitting out in the open and we never caught it I bet there's a loooot
>>573013280wear yellow-face, easyjust don't squint while you do it
>>573013049it's got hint's
>flowers are almost everywhere in town. in vases, gift bouquets, etc.>Since flowers aren't actually darkeners per se they might not turn to stone if shit goes down, though they will still be on borrowed time.I wonder if they'll play into anything to help us during the roaring?
>>573013189*image of kris pointing out all the differences between Ralsei and Asriel*
ME LIKE!!!!
>>573012740NTA but genderfluid Ralsei theory seems more plausible. As Ralsei willingly wears a dress and jokes about being a princess in the castletown climbing minigame, which would be a really weird thing to show if he was transmasculine. But he also gets forced into a butler outfit, Ralsei comments that his willingness to dress as a butler is circumstantial. There's also a joke about him being inside the closet and he secretly wants the blue and pink drink. So he's not a boy or a girl, he's green and in-between.
>>573013280Xitter says Tenna is black
>>573013291No, I don't think so. I'd feel very awkward listening and playing hundreds of ACTs and flavor dialogue about fluffy boy, lovely boy etc. with the knowledge that's wrong and Ralsei doesn't want that anymore. I think it makes for an uncomfortable experience
>>573013280Sorry you gotta put the blue tutu on, anon-chan>>573013359Flowers and ghost lighteners will be the Roaring MVPs
>>573010110>>572990448Aaaaaah, flower cunny! Asking Aqua to play naked! Fingering Aqua! Playing with Aqua's clit! Eating out Aqua!
>>573013345Lake Skip was caught by a bunch of people before Ch5 actually, it's the reason why people answered "The Lake" to "Where will it take place?"
>>573013425that was the fastest dialogue choice i've made in this entire game
>>573013412"Do not trust your eyes" is not an effective counter, I can fucking see Ralsei
>>573013189Becoming your own person involves imitating others.
>>573013425Kris gave us some really good dialogue options this time
>>573013280>Why couldnt yellow be the black one.uhhhcolor theory
>>573013049Haha holy shit
>>573013189Yeah it is... kinda weird, but i think the point is that while Ralsei probably "chose" the face originally to appeal to us/Kris by looking like Asriel/Toriel, eventually he has came to like the face simply as his own face despite its origin. Still weird but yeah
>>573011860entry 17
>>573013425That sucked so bad man
>>573013359no internet and no asgore plus town full of retards, zoomers or retarded zoomers
>>573013432I'm personally a bigender Ralsei believer so I'm in a similar boat of what his relation to gender is
>>573013425aren't you a cop?
>>573013482why did you link the previous thread
>>573011453Mg guess is that Carol’s icy breath is actually her presence of immense sadness. In the weird route, Noelle drowns and so all that’s left is a dying Rudy.
>>573013613That's probably my second favorite.
>>573013154Thats not a thing anyone cares about other than trolls or children trying to be annoying
>>573013521>I can fucking see Ralseibut you can't see delta asriel
>>573013270>I was born with thick skin. I was skin with thick. Born with skin. I was with, thick. I was born. Skin with born. Skin.Wise words from MaNPC Pardormal
>>573013280>I wanna cosplay Deltarune without looking retarded AND gay.Physically impossible, only retarded and gay people enjoy this game.
>>573013165whole house cute
I love when Toby goes full weirdly translated fake-Japanglish like with the Susie clothing descriptions or nonsense like Nagasagy Kiggy Park
i'm confused how do i actually finish sword route? i skipped the consoles before the parental locks because i remembered the code, was i meant to do it there? post tenna freakout rn
tell me why kris gets the n word pass but susie does not
>>573013540This whole chapter has been a goldmine of reaction images.
WHAT IF SHE LIKE...DIED??!?!?!
>>573013432Isn't he already genderfluid according to your descriptions then, what would be the point of making that official if nothing really changes? Now it's okay to call Ralsei she/her? That's it?This is my biggest gripe with any gender Ralsei theory, either make that relevant to his character development and mysteries surrounding his nature, if it's not relevant, don't
>>573013630I don't know...mobile fucks me up and I was drinking so I just copy pasted my post.
>>573013807Because despite being yellow, Kris is blacker than Susie on account of being genetically closer to negros than Susie.
>>573013783To finish the Sword Route you just need to beat ERAM and get the ShadowMantle. The games to get the door codes will just use HERO_SWORD.
>>573013842I bet she'd stink like pine cones, ceder wood and weed
>>573013280I wanted to do a Kris cosplay but I also don't want anyone to think I'm a they or some shit just for doing it so I haven't yet. Maybe I'll get around to it eventually
>>573013747I've seen enough
>>573013540Yea...
>>573013151The "plot" feels tacked on to Deltarune, like it was supposed to be 10 or so chapters of mostly just pure adventures like chapter 5 but Toby had to scale it back and rush things once his wrists fell off.
>>573013807kris is a person of color (yellow) is susie is a carnivorous theropod from the late Cretaceous period who has no business using that word
>>573013813
>>573013946>Silhouette of Asriel is about the same height as Ralseihuh...
Found this in my old folderBack when Kriselle was still niche
>>573013946>He's green because his soul attribute is kindnessThis kinda warms my heart.
>>573013432the drink is stronger evidence for mtf than genderfluid - the flag for mtf is exclusively blue and pinki will faithfully put my stocks in clopen
>>573013938I wouldnt worry about that.
Wife
>>573013813Ralsei losing his mind because the player is a depraved maniac who thinks shoving statues is fun is a really good bit
we can all agree that kris' original soul was green, right?
>>573014038fuck I knew I missed something in castle town
>>573014052Those were the days when kriselle was tolerable
>>573014052Based on my aunt type of image
>>573013853I think Ralsei is a stillborn fetus and the pink and blue flowers allude to the gender reveal origins…You see. It started in real life because it was for a still born baby.
>>573013425I have to wonder if Kris said the exclamation marks for that one too
Berdly’s nipple angst means that other monsters have nice succulent nipples and they produce milkies
>>573014132some good castletown bits this time round
>>573013813>>573014105Does Ralsei know which actions are from the Soul and which are from Kris? 'Cause if not that seems confusing as shit.
Flowery transitioning theory (from twink to fatass grinding on my boner with his jarona)
>>573014259What does this scene look like if HATE wins?
>>573014152Fine, I'll compromise anything for fetus ralsei to be true.
>dialogue options become more unhinged as Kris becomes more sleep deprived and the playersoul becomes more schizo from WAITing
>>573012050I would take any except for Cat Mom. Cheating is wrong
>>573014276Kris' LawAny action stupid enough for the player to perform is stupid enough for Kris to also come up and do on their own.
is ralsei's car not just toriel
Need a boyfriend who will watch deltarune YouTube videos with me and get excited at the good theories with me
>>573014202ah, i remember the olden days when i would taunt the butthole-obsessed berdfag about berdly probably having a cloaca...good times...he never reacted.come to think of it, now that i'm writing this out, old /utg/ was pretty fucking stupid.
>>573013151>Nothing was really gained or explored in 4Excuse me, what?Chapter 4 had an extensive presence from our main antagonist and showed us what titans are. It fleshed out the situation at the Holiday house and lets us know more a little more about Dess. It informed us that Kris is involved in a conspiracy with Carol which potentially involves some kind of "police sacrifice". It introduces the main quest of looking for the shelter codes. On a world-mechanical level, we learn a fair bit about the prophecy which is central to the story, about the mechanics of dark worlds, their ability to create darkners of dead people and how the way they manifest depends on who created them. I don't know what you think "plot" means if you think none of that progresses the plot.
>>573013747Toby could literally clear up all the confusion if he actually genuinely showed us delta asriel, instead he wants to hammer in "No no I promise they look different, stop laughing theyre DIFFERENT, TRUST ME" while keeping Asriel hidden because ooooooo mystery ooooooooo the secrets dude.....
>>573014381His car looks like a fucking dog lmao
>>573014259>(Remember to talk to my parents' faces.)>(Faces are the place you talk from!)This is definitely foreshadowing the vessel being unable to speak because it has no face
>>573014381Putting a new meaning to riding your (goat) mom
Do you think when Rudy and Carol were younger Rudy would smack Carol around with his dick and make her say she's a filthy slut
>>573014149lmao I just found the original after posting itI knew there was something I was forgetting about itstill cute
>>573013807Sans sold a pass to Kris
https://poal.me/3ibqeahttps://poal.me/3ibqeahttps://poal.me/3ibqea
>>573014546He would say that but then she would squeeze his dick and color it with markers to look like a candy cane
>>573014546no carol made rudy this and now hes getting revenge as the knight
>>573014364>the Hometown Sleep Experiment
>>573014443>It informed us that Kris is involved in a conspiracy with Carolnot really
This image unfortunately aged very well
>>573014686Poor bastard.My boy can't get a BREAK.
>>573014616We already had a Spamtenna reunion in chapter 3 though
>>573014686His dearest December...
>>573014546Carol had Rudy in a ballgag
>>573014771If Tenna wanted to act like he didn't recognize Spammy then he doesn't get to have it count
>>573014686They even had sex...
>>573014097I love her so much, broNeed her sucking face with my vessel immediately
OOF
>>573014621was it shaped like a fucking hook??????
NOELLEYOUR FATHER IS DYINGAND YOURE SCHLICKING IT UP WITH THE LOCAL TRAILER TRASH GIRL
>>573014771I wouldn't call tenna yiiking out before showering spamton in cum a formal reunion but that's merely my own take on whether it counts
anons... i have a confession. you know that meme with the susie gaster friend 7 soulslop art in front of carols? yea, i want that. im tired of pretending its bad to want it.
>>573014930She molded it into looking like that. That or she just added an attachment.
>>573014327I have bad news
Kris doesn't use the knife in the dark world because the knife is a real weapon from the light world that would do light world damage
what if at the end Noelle is like " The Roaring Knight I know you're Dess just admit it" and the knight takes their helmet off and it's somebody we've never seen before but after that there's a scene where the knight is talking to ralsiel in secret and he's like "do you ever regret not telling her?" and it shows a flashback of dess being turned into that person and the game ends
>>573010770This sprite has been permanently linked to vagueposting in my mind
>>573014905You BIG BITCH
>>573014930yes
>>573015037AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEE
>>573013961The only elements that actually feel like stories are chapters 3 and 5, and the secret bosses of chapter 1 and 2. The rest is just endless sounds of absolute filler.Seriously. There is far more fan content for Spamton and Addisons, Tenna and his darkners (Mikes), and soon these flowers than anything from chapter 4, the “serious lore chapter”. Because they actually have a story with serious consequences going on in them. There was more relevance with Kris and the Knight in chapter 3 than anywhere else because they were Tenna’s boss and Tenna used any Darkner he could to stall you down. The Knight practically does nothing in chapter 4. Nothing.
>>573015041well i mean yeah if you swing around a knife in a game of pretend where you're hitting each other with hair brushes and pencils, someone's gonna end up in the hospital
>>573015037
>>573014901Maddie is a neet so she probably doesn’t know how to kiss. MewMew is an anime girl though so she can probably pick up the slack.
>>573013813>DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE PACE - DRAW THE FACE! Toby learned the best lessons from Gigi
replaying chapter 3 is giving me a new appreciation for tenna
Im having metanarrative fatigue desu
>>573015037watch there's an army of these creeps gestating down in the shelter
She’s named Decembrrr cause she’s really COLD haha XD
>>573015137Yeah the dark world has magic circle rules which is why Ralsei gets pissed at Flowery and why the Knight is so dangerous
>>573014993you want multiple carols?
>>573015198Who's a better fit for the average anon, Maddie or Alphys?
>>573015124>>573015005no wonder he's in the hospital, jesus christ
>>573015067If Toby Fox lifted a scene directly from the fucking live action Speed Racer movie I'd hit him with a hammer
lmao what a dumb fucking idiot child
>>573015130Wow, it's almost like the stars of chapter 4 are the main characters we follow in every game and not the random scrimblo bimblos who are only relevant for a single chapter and then become random joke characters.
>>573015198maddie has seen the lewd yaois on tenna
>>573015037The more days pass, the more terrifying NormalNPC gets. A titanspawn in the Light World would def be the prerequisite for a Titan in the Light World, i.e, for the Roaring to occur.
>>573015130>>573013151miraculously shit taste. it almost feels like bait but i know people this pedestrian do exist amongst us
>>573015198I will gladly teach herBoth of them
Original or resprite?
why are the scrimblo bimblos more compelling than the main cast
>>573015037oh what the fuck
>>573015370The original. It's funnier.
>>573015370Original always, resprites are soulless
>>573015370original
>>573015370Why would you change his text sprite too, it’s so cute
>>573015037>>573015320Are the titans and normal npc all just failed vessel clones?
>>573015370resprite ralsei instead he actually needs it
Mysterybaiting Gasterslopware
>>573015392Why don't the scrimblo bimblos have their own dedicated threads on /trash/ if they're supposedly more compelling than the main cast.
>>573015370Original, Mew Mew looks the way she does because it goes along with the gag of her having a Dating Sim portrait
>>573015370ewwww. at least his original sprite has the charm of appearing to have a hooked nose
>>573015037I'm convinced that you could put almost any two images next to each other and people in this fanbase would think that they look alike and that this must mean something
what if at the end of the game the roaring happens and it all goes black and it shows the first few seconds of the undertale introi really really hope this doesn't happen but I kinda think it might
noelle referred to kris as they/them in her blog entry as a small child, too young to type properly. was kris born genderless? did asgore and toriel fear gendering kris because they're human, what's going on? the town still refers to boys and girls the same way everyone in real life does. kris self chose king with noelle as kids at the festival, didn't they?
>>573015370Original. A lot of resprites miss the point of the designs entirely. Focusing on making them look aesthetically pleasing rather than convey character. Flowery looking a bit dopey is intentional, and it makes for a more memorable design. It's also funny .
>>573010892yeah, you can get the shadow crystal and the weapon at the left of castle town.
>>573015228A growing army of chefs for Captain Gasters ship and cartel
>>573015515terrible response, do sus and doe even give a fuck about the game
>>573015370The slightly shit nature of the artstyle is what gives its charm.
>>573015130Chapter 4 was a lazy lore dump with literal glowing walls of text and Jackenstein could be cut from the story entirely.
>>573013842Is this supposed to be wholesome or horny?
>>573015130there's a fair amount of chapter 4 art that's just focused on the fun gang and their fight against the titan, which fits for what the chapter was aboutin fact it's some of my favorite art
>>573015346If you were blindfolded, would you be able to tell which of the two was riding you, MewMew or Maddie? Imagine if MewMew is so insanely better at sex to the point that it’s embarrassing…
>>573015634>kris self chose king with noelle as kids at the festival, didn't they?Why don't you play the game and find out?
Would you still suck off Flowery if his Jarona has thorns on it?
>>573014616>"what would be the biggest letdown?">all options are things guaranteed to happen
>>573015370I think the original talksprite's face with the resprite's hair would have been perfect
>>573015212Nice, a holofag! Hi!
>>573015513I <3 gasterslop and I unironically want more of it
>>573015732Maddie whimpers like theyre slightly embarrassed, Pink moans loud as fuck
>>573015037Murdering those FREAKS with my Black Shard was the right call, after all
>>573011768Sploinky is not a gendered name.
i'm fond of aqua (non sexual)
>>573015370original at least kinda looks like Rudy
>>573015370Original because it looks more punchable
I want to rape aqua
Tell me about The Spectrum
>>573015783Pink's panties...
>>573015732DefinitelyMew Mew would at least have cursory knowledge of sex, and be decent at itMaddie's seen enough porn to know how to moan and ride a good dick, even if she's never done it before
>>573015992you're on it
Woke fighting the woke over whose woker
>>573015678>he says on utgpeople in glass houses, etc etc
>>573016017Why are there three non-binary categories? What is that supposed to mean?
>>573014443>Well, my vague “lore” about a maybe or not Carol is in a conspiracy with Kris mattersTitans only become relevant at the last second of chapter 4 and there was absolutely zero build up to it.
I forgot if I made this post before but the Floradinns are literally me.
>>573015714whichever you want it to be
>>573015834based
>>573016128
>>573015250They're both built for having their interests reciprocated by Anonymous and coming out of their shells, but I think Alphys would be more receptive to actually fostering a relationship. Maddie is perfectly fine leaving Hometown behind to go be a catgirl in Castle Town, right? While there's some appeal in making her happy enough to remain in Hometown, she'd rather just chill in Asgore's Mew Mew figurine
>FloweryRudy>Greentoriel >Yellowundyne>Aqua kris>Seth/purpleasriel >Blueno idea, could be fuckin pizzapants for all I know >Orangealso no idea, heard people say noelle but I don’t see it (also don’t think she has a strong enough relationship with asgore to get her own flower)
>>573015973can you take this post away
>>573016195toriel is blue
I want to rape Kris 7 years ago
>>573016128You're fat and weirdly sexy and want a gamer boyfriend?
>>573016240No
Actually, I changed my mind.Kris is based for getting us the fuck out of the lesbian minigame segment with that Dark World.
>>573016327yes
>>573016195Green is Carol, she fits with Asgore's statement about being quite nice when you get to know her and being very serious about debts. The only time Green isn't kind is when she's pressing people about the things they owe her
>>573015370Original of course.
>>573016226Personally I want Aqua to 'rape' me with cbt
>>573016101The less you know the better
>>573016379Pizzapants is genuinely a better fit, since he actually has a love focused story and an affinity for performing artsToriel has 0 connections to blue and is a perfect fit for green
If there's one thing that gives me hope in chapter 5, it's the fact that the most prevailing theory about Asgore being involved with Dess's disappearance was correct. We even got right that it led to Toriel leaving him (though not quite all the details)I don't want to believe Toby is the kind of writer to change up a story just because everyone figured out what the foreshadowing meant ahead of time.Imagine stuff being confirmed next chapter that was "just a theory" but because it was such a common theory, it ends up feeling like old news to people like us.Stuff like Noelle being the original Girl, or the missing panel of the prophecy saying that the Girl was going to die.Maybe even early theories that people have mostly stopped talking about. Like the idea that Friend is actually a proxy for Gaster in the Dark Worlds going by the alias of Mike. Be honest, would you be disappointed with three mysterious figured all being condensed to one character?
>>573016017are the trans guy and trans girl tiers on this list meant to be like "they transitioned to this gender" or "they were this gender but transitioned to the other one"? the positioning is fucking me up on this
>>573015732Easy, pink one has a pussy, purple one has a penis
>>573016017Even as a tranny you gotta fucking hate trannies because every twitter wokie faggot fully accepts that Ralsei girl or whatever it says here is more or less canon (it isn't) but if you dare propose the opposite with a character who makes some sense (stretch but so is Ralsei) you get posts like this>>573016101Twitter trannies fully believe in the idea that you have to be nonbinary (binary). It's basically saying you're nonbinary but basically a girl. The only True Nonbinaries are people without anything going down in those pants.
the knight is friend and I'm tired of pretending it's not. you all bitch about potential man doing nothing, while the truth shits on your face.the knight is kris' friend. they're conspiring for some shit.
>>573016554i have been asking myself this question for years and i still can never tell or make heads or tails of it
>>573015740Flowery is for being fucked in the butt while he shouts unmuffled voice clips into Pillowery the pillow. I don't think his asshole or floral butt would have thorns unless situationally for defense.
>>573016017>Cis are outnumbered 4:1What the hell is in hometowns water?
>>573016554former, noelle being in the trans guy tier means "noelle will go i wanna be a man in future chapter"
>>573016441Which chapter does Asgore say that again
>>573016195>chuds still pretending Blue isn't Toriel toby literally color coded it for you retards>inb4 "that's purple"Nope, the soul and Seth are a way brighter
>>573016017This type of shit is why nobody takes most LGBTards seriously.
>>573016665To be fair most of the non-cis are darkners.
>>573015973Fake aquafag. Real ones want to be raped by Aqua
>>5730167014. This is also a scene where Carol lets him eat a plate of cheese and crackers
>>573016642both friend and the knight are frauds, so all you’re doing by combining them is creating an even bigger potential man
>>573016725>t. random Pippins when Spamton eats his fifth cupcake off of Tenna's bare belly in the Green Room
Maddie is my wife btw
>>573015724this goes so hard man i love(d) chapter four. genuinely had parts that made me tear up and everything
>>573016279Yea...
>>573011295Dark souls plot:Darkness=humanityThe monsters gave their SOULs all up due to some previous event making them monster instead of humanwill toby do this? prob not because it would be perceived as "racist" by the fanbase
>>573016737So, fantasy?
>>573016701Chapter 4
>>573014616If the Shadow Crystal questline doesn't culminate in two masterpiece battles against Seam and FRIEND, my blood is going to be on Toby's paws
>>573016524chapter 5 doesn't connect dess and the tragedy at all. chapter 5 doesn't even say december disappeared. you're hallucinating it at this point.
>>573015834True!
The darkworld is shaped by the lightners mind.Why was THIS in Kris's darkworld for Asgore?
>>573016665gender fluid
>>573016616>Even as a tranny you gotta fucking hate tranniesI just hate theyfab's.
>>573016854As long as you aren't obese we might be able to come to an arrangement.
>>573016828epic downboat
>>573016524Eh, about Asgore, we were kinda wrong? He wasn't involved in the incident actively, it is more like he was the first to arrive to the scene post incident. Toriel didn't leave him for his involvement in the incident but because he became obsessed with "solving" it to the point of pushing his family away.Though, I get what you mean. And I honestly do hope that the story starts "condensing" and a lot of these mysteries are one in the same. I wouldn't be mad at all if Friend is just a tool of Gaster. Cause people really think that there is:>GASTER>FRIEND>ERAM>ECHIDNA >THE KNIGHT>ALL THE GONERS/GASTER FOLLOWERSChilling in the depths/Shelter
>>573016930Ralsei is the embodiment of the gender fluid at the bottom of the lake.
>>573016715Fuck I forgot the image fuc fuckc fvkc
>>573016930Nice one anon
>>573016903She didn't leave and skip town because of the tragedy?
>>573016772Green is a parallel to Carol and Gaster and Forgotten Man and FRIEND, all of them give you yummies (cheese, snack tray, eggs, healing candy). Feederbros won.
>>573016921Aqua is a representation of Kris' currently repressed mesugaki side
>>573016017how do trannies play a game where gender matters so little and everyone does what they want regardless of sex but still do stuff like this? free them from their mental prisons. tell them they can be like susie and wear pants or a skirt kek
>>573016776and? "this answer doesn't answer any questions" doesn't mean it's the wrong answer, it just means toby is a hack who's going to exposition dump at the end again like he did in UT.
>>573016841Making Kris and Noelle have sex!!
Why the insistence that the flowers must represent real people? It's stupid
new whiteboard?
I wanted to keep working on a drawing but I have a massive headache and it's killing me, fuuuuuuuck
>>573017013the only color here that actually matches is kris, this image means literally nothing also Toriel is clearly purple here
>>573016983>t. random Floradinn watching Spamton and Tenna capsize a toy boat with their fat asses
>>573017013>Yellow and Blue show how Asgore views himself and Toriel>A bumbling man of justice and an intelligent and sophisticated person of integrity
>>573016921Kris always wanted to get fucked by asgore but Asgore loved Toriel too much so never noticed him.
>>573016128Oh yeah?Prepare yourself thenhttps://files.catbox.moe/3xuaft.jpg
>>573017136No, old blackboard
>>573016101>nonbinarycan be male or female >nonbinary transfemmale >nonbinary transmascfemale there are three categories because they're just as obsessed with gender and self labeling as the right is
>>573017080Because Aqua clearly represents Kris and it is arguable Flowery represents Rudy in some way so people began extrapolating that every flower must match someone else
>>573016942How come? Is it just seen as more of a low effort/participating in a trend type thing?
>>573017041I want to see bratty Kris…
>>573017074
>>573017080Flowery being Asgore’s “college roommate” and Aqua being young Kris-coded makes it seem like the others should be.
>>573017234
>>573015724Here’s the problem. That’s a cool element in the story. But… it ultimately doesn’t mean anything before, during, and after. It’s a chapter that looks cool and feels really cool at times, but then suffers from the realization that the Knights’ actions were ultimately pointless black noise and the only thing that mattered is Susie looking at a single prophecy panel.There could’ve been serious religious darkners/lightners that respected Gerson as an elder and discussed the matters of fate. Ones that would to allude to the presence of titan spawn and the great fear of a single proper titan spawning. But no. So none of it really matters.
>>573016942See what I mean. You really gotta hate other trannies.
>>573017194
>>573017156>Asgore isn’t justicejust go home bro
>>573017174>toriel>sophisticated person of integrityasgore gotta be some next level delusional
>>573017023chapter 3 explains what happened. when the hometown prison bullshit went down, some townspeople left>* But, the world became the theater, and us, children of Tenna's contract.>* Not everyone liked the change. Some people left.>* Those that did not sign the paper, set off for the far land and were forgotten.
>>573017310>living salad dark world>fattest generic darkners yetOzempychuddies lost bigly
>>573017080I don't think anyone's insisting the flowers represent real people directly, they're clearly just unreliable caricatures based off of how Asgore personally remembers certain people in his life
>>573016524i've thought for a while that the main people who enjoyed chapter 5 are those who think a story is good when it barely exists and you have to create it from scratch and leaps of logic and this post kind of makes me think i'm right
>>573016195Orange is a mouse and Noelle is mouse-coded. Orange is close with Flowery (Rudy), Green (Carol), and Pink (Dess). While Pink isn't a real flower, the other flowers accepted her as an honorary member and Orange even brags about "finding her" (lost girl joke.) Orange crying to Pink that she's getting bullied is really blatantly a Noelle and Dess thing.
>>573017317he’s actively plotting revenge and murder he’s the exact opposite of justice
are the pedophiles gone yet
>>573016017I would screw all those trans guys in the bussy‘cept blue
>>573010110new whiteboardhttps://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96255273-2981-9100https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96255273-2981-9100https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96255273-2981-9100https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96255273-2981-9100
>>573017080they represent memories from asgore's life, because that is all the flowers know. flowery and aqua are obviousjustice for example is based on the cowboy puppet show
>>573017219Because 99% of the time they treat being trans as a fashion statement instead of what it actually is, a debilitating mental disorder that makes me hate myself. And because they throw around labels like it's a fun little exercise for attention I am poisoned by association and people think I'm an attentionwhoring freak when really I just want to be left alone to think I'm a girl in peace.
>>573017463>noelle is mouse codedshe hates mice, she even avoids the mouse monster
>>573017486The scene showed him changing to Red/Determination/Ball Game
>>573017615Noelle hates herself.
>>573016665Meteor juice
>>573017486Way to show you didn’t play the game
>>573017046The current trend in the tranny discourse circles is "you can only be trans in a god honoring way" which clashes incredibly Deltarune's view of gender
>>573017568Yeah that’s what I figured then, a lot of the theyfabs I know are just miraculously annoying women while trans dudes are usually pretty cool people
>>573016195the flowers are paired into duos to make the connections easieraqua and seth are friends, seth explicitely being called a berdly/ralsei knockoffyellow and blue are a romantic couplegreen and orange is the most confusing but it seems to be like a mother/daughter combo, with ralsei like a stand-in for the big sister/brother.
I wonder whether the 2D platformer gameplay was planned from the start or if it's something Toby realized he could pull off after increasing the size of his team. Toby mentioned somewhere that originally the climbing in ch4 was going to be identical to normal overworld movement but with the characters' walking sprites changed to climbing sprites, so maybe there was an early draft of the 2D gameplay that used a Lisa the Painful-style workaround to make it easier to implement
>>573015341If you love your badly told lore crap this much. Actually defend it properly.>>573015272Are you serious? Chapter 4 used a rando, Gerson, to carry the whole experience just for Susie. Flowery interacted with Ralsei, Susie, and Kris directly and confronted all of them., and gotten them to do the team up thing a lot better. Spamton was a character that was relatable to Kris that it feels like we’re missing whole narrative by ignoring him.
>>573017029>Carol and Gaster and Forgotten Man and FRIENDThree out of four of these characters are confirmed to be horny for little red SOULs. What's the significance of this?
>>573017841>people will look you dead in the eye and tell you this isn’t the most beautiful creature alive
I want to rape green
Honest question but shit posts aside what the fuck is the point of Ralsei having 'pretty' eyes whenever he takes off his glasses? Like what is this supposed to be telling me the player? Cause this is twice now where it's happened and it feels like I'm supposed to take note of it but I don't really get why.
>>573012982Those two are going to be the length of like 2 undertales minimum
>>573017928We call those people "liars"
>>573017830Chapter 1 had an early version of the platformer gameplay called "sword_mode" internally, where it was exactly the same as normal overworld movement but you could slash enemies with your sword. He's been planning this for a long time.
>>573016195>>573017463>>573017463>thinking they're all based on people we've metthis is why you're all wrong. at least a handful of them are people we don't know shit about yet. green is 100% the forgotten man, undeniably. the chef aspect points towards either ice-e pizza or grillby.blue also talks about butterflies way too much and calls himself "mr. butterfly", which is the most everyman-coded thing I've ever seen.
>>573017998supposed to give you a boner
>>573017080Because it's fun and reinforces parts of Asgore's characterization and gives us hints about what the characters were like before the horrible no good very bad incident
Nooo Tenna you don't deserve the evil period cramps :(
>>573017998Ralsei is a girl and her pink eyes are the window to her soul.
>>573013880I like you Aquaposter
>>573017998ralsei is a girl
>>573015370I think nobody likes Flowery's design from his introduction because the resprite is trying to be faithful to it.
>>573018084Ralsei is a guy with a little penis
>>573017998ralsei acts like a slut to placate the player. That's literally it.
>>573017463Pink also "leaves" and she calls orange "ory" just like Dess calles noelle "elly"
>>573018052Blue doesn’t call himself mr butterfly, there is an actual butterfly on his back that he is referring to
setting off a firework inside aqua's asshole!
Any females here that would like to have sex with Ralsei? I would imagine that Ralsei is very considerate during sex and will go out of his way to make sure you achieve climax before he does and with all that fluff he could plap you at full force and it would still feel soft and fuzzy. He'd also make for a nice cuddle afterwards. Am I wrong or right or what?
>>573018171handsome anime boys are UGLY!!! ugly anime boys are HANDSOME!!!
>>573017615Noelle hates herself and also her reaction to mice is her reaction to the player who is also mouse-coded because Noelle fills the Flowey/Chara role of being the player's main parallel
>>573018237It would be nice but he’s not the one I choose
>>573018227this is so fun looking
>>573018237Ralsei probably doesn't even know how to have sex. I'm not even sure he knows what sex is.
>>573018237i want to lock him up in chastity and pound his prostate with a strap on.
>>573018052Green is actually Carol. When green turns serious, Kris, Susie, Ralsei, and Orange all act like kids that upsets a very serious woman. Asgore insists heavily Carol is a good and loving person that wants to give it her all. And she still does as the mayor of Hometown despite how tragic her home life is becoming.
Knight is RudyFriend is Dess
>>573017998It's just an anime trope tobert wanted to include in the game
>>573016642>the knight is fuckinn crazy broo shes like a berserk unit 01 bro she’s a revenant corpse gone wild dudeee>also she can catch a very subtle hint and knows when to retreat
>>573013343Maybe too light, but it’s foreshadowing of how Sunny faked the actual cause of his sister’s death after pushing her down the stairs by hanging her corpse from a tree. Granted, Basil helped him and was the one that (likely) came up with the idea, but still, “you did it”.
>>573018237I want to kill him and eat him
>>573017527whoever drew that flowey you are a devious motherfucker
>>573018332Please turn me in to Ralsei.
>>573018237>attention females
>>573018148T-thanks I like you too
>>573017998I assumed it's meant to be a way to separate him further from Asriel visually, but if that was the goal then taking away his hat seems counter-productive so I'm honestly not sure. Maybe it is strictly meant to be an attractiveness type of thing
Why is green a titcow now?
>>573018425I really need to play Omori
>>573018370>green is carolpossibly the most retarded of all the flower personality headcanons.
>>573017998he's wearing makeup and takes it off right after this
>>573018425I think Kris stabbed Dess’ body because he feared Toriel would be arrested for vehicular manslaughter.
choose wisely
>>573018219no, he actually calls himself mr. butterfly, the dude is so far up his ass he can see his tonsils.his butterfly stuff gets brought up by the organikks, and aqua thinks she herself is blue (both her and blue do pirouettes), so there's absolutely a reason toby focused so much on the blue flowers pre-release.
I hope Green gets breast reducement surgery soon. That can't be good for her back.
>>573018237susie, no doubts
brandish is required reading
>>573018581I'd rather kill myself
>>573018547You owe me 5$
Toby what the fuck is this sprite
>>573013049massive forgotten man isms in a ton of chapter 5 stuff>ferris wheel>skeleton house on weird route>green>Mew Mew's line about "spring may change to fall"
>>573018581it's the same of course it's the same
>>573018370green is a mute who speaks in sign language and hands out giant yoshi eggs. it's obviously the forgotten man.
>>573011161and then brown says>heh, at least it wasnt the 69 game, am i right guys?and every stares at him cause he's a weirdo
>>573018691Listen here you little shit.jpg
>>573018547It isn’t. Orange, the one based on Noelle stories, goes to Green as if she’s her mom.
>>573018581I would go to brazil and weaponize them against trannies to be the most annoying fuckers of this world.
>>573018691Toby is filtering out the people that can't appreciate the real Ralsei. If you look at that sprite and don't see a beautiful goat boy, you never loved Ralsei.
>>573018691best talk sprite in the game
>>573018581I didn't even know what were the larger implications about this, I just picked the blue and pink one because it sounded yummier.
>>573018726theres no brown
>>573018237I would in theory but I think that he would not actually want to have sex with me but would force himself to do it anyway which would be sad for both of us so I would not have sex with him
>>573018052Speaking of Grillby I've been wondering where fire chick went among other people. It seems like while we've been focusing on our own shit a LOT of people have been vanishing without a trace.
>>573018691It's the Ralchud sprite I actually really like it because it helps flesh-out Ralsei's character knowing he is fully capable of being a prick
*swishes their big fluffy $$$$ing tail*
>>573017392its cause they lack the gila monster saliva that makes it all possible, they need to ask susie
>>573018761anon...
>>573018691Clearly you don’t own an air fryer
>>573017841I’m 100% sure I’ve saved this image of Noelle before, but I might as well save it again. She deserves it.
>>573018780They're probably just hanging out in the missing street Kris refuses to let us see between hometown screens
>>573018237i'm not attracted to young characters but i do like furries and he is a kind character. i'd brush his ears and dress him up, that's it
Half of the bullshit in Deltarune can be explained with "it's a Homestuck/Mother/*insert JRPG* reference"The other half with "it's an anime trope"
>>573018761SOMEBODY missed a lot of content in the chapter :/
>>573018710The Yoshi eggs are a callback to Asgore cooking Yoshi eggs for Asriel rather than the egg man and if you say that they represent both then there's no reason Green can't be both Carol and the egg man too
>>573018664fuckin lmao
>>573018691>This fucking guy...I loved Ralsei getting so pissy with Flowery
>>573018641A Susie and Ralsei fan kid would look pretty badass. Like imagine a white horned dinosaur lizard.
>>573018502amazing aqua image. saved
>>573018502You're welcome qt
>>573018761Susie surprised when she sees Noelle's underwear for the first time.
>>573018908which jrpg/anime explains who friend is? or the knight? or the narrator?
>>573018219>>573018583speaking of, these are the only usages of "prestigious" in the entire game and in both cases it connects back to kris.the shared room one can even connect back to everyman, because of spamton's room in kris' house and toby making a "joke" about everyman living in a dumpster back in the chapter 2 days.
>>573019023truly horrid post
>>573018710The forgotten man isn’t mute at all. He talks more than Carol does. And Carol often hands Asgore and Kris a lot of her service that she wants them in her house. Asgore disappearing while Rudy is dying and Kris acting like a deviant will be breaking her apart.
>>573018691>Looks like a chud>Acts like a chud when he drops the act>Crossdresses in his free timeOk, I can kinda see Transei now
>>573018881I love the subtle Brownposting, there's a bunch of screenshots in these threads where this motherfucker shows up in the background, like I've seen at least 3 images go by where this fucker was added to an actual scene and nobody noticed
>>573018664All of Toby's games are basically just Brandish deep down.
>>573019010they cut aquas arm off... hows she going to do her knives jump rope attack now?
Nice “rainbow bouquet” that lacks red, Asgore, you fucking stupid goat. Go eat a can.
>>573013880>>573013482Damn, having that Aqua image saved on the phone is kinda risky
>>573018583>so there's absolutely a reason toby focused so much on the blue flowers pre-release.Because Toriel is a major character involved with the deeper workings of the plot. Literally every recent arrival in Hometown is specifically connected to Toriel, does that seem like a random coincidence to you? Toriel is important so the flower based on her is given more focus.
>>573018237In the situation that I cannot choose my fave to have sex with instead for some strange reason I think I would take the opportunityIf I'm gonna lose my virginity it would only be with fave, and if it can't be with him then at least someone who cares and wouldn't physically harm me even if just to find out what sex is like and it turns out to be even more lame than a lot of people describe it asHe is cute so that's always a huge point in favor that I find him physically appealingOtherwise no, I'll die a virgin unless either of those options are presented to me
>>573019080I try to stay on the cutting edge of posting.
Toby's one swear will be Ralsei dropping an F-bomb on some unsuspecting fool.
>>573018924you are ignorant of the green lizard yoshi symbolism in this game. the green lizard was dropped in the pit to jump high. abandoned, if you will. that's the major reason why ralsei gets associated with lizards from time to time, like with his scarf being a giant tongue.
>>573019215>Roaring Knight? Heh, more like the Roaring FAGGOT
>>573019119thanks anon, it means a lot. my hope is that someone downloads a screenshot with brown in it and forgets about it then in a year looks at their undertale folder and goes "who the fuck is this guy?? was he actually in the game or am I schizo"
>>573019215he should've called flowery a faggot that's my 1 criticism of chapter 5.
>>573019193>In the situation that I cannot choose my fave to have sex with instead for some strange reasonAnon... Fave isn't real... You won't ever be able to choose Fave to have sex with...
>>573019276This will happen in the abandoned route.
>>573019193You're going to die a virgin if you can't have sex with Tenna or Ralsei?
>>573019107the forgotten man literally can't talk, he tells you that. he only has one place left he can talk and it disappears when you leave. he can't talk.green has nothing in common with carol at all and is a schizophrenic theory.
>>573019165Eh, maybe.
>>573019251Noelle wouldn’t say that, she’s in full psycho power-bottom mode here. She wants kris to step all over her shoes.
>>573019023The way I snorted
>>573019262Ralsei is hinted to be the lone egg. The Pipis daughter of Spamton and Tenna who represent Dess and Asriel.Even having the fire magic Dess would have.
MORE LIKETHE SNORING KNIGHT!I CAN DO ANYTHING!
>>573019251
>We got a->Number One Victory Royale!>Deltarune, we 'bout to get down (get down)!>SnowGrave on the ACT right now>Just wiped out Castle Town>Noelle just got downed!>She was used up, now I'm headed south-bound!>Now I'm at the Shelter with a pistol>Looking at my PureCrystal
>>573019365I'm sad that I will never find a woman who will say this to me.
>>573018691Chudsei
>>573016505Toriel is blue because Yellow is the Asgore stand in and is in love with Toriel. Blue has some similar face sprites to Toriel too.
>>573019169toriel doesn't have fuck all to do with butterflies, and the organniks specifically associate the butterfly symbolism with a man.
>>573019402Can toby just not relate Ralsei to eggs in anyway? The groomers are still arguing about the trans shit as is. If toby gives them that they will never shut up.
>>573019368My guess is that the forgotten man is a monster soul split into pieces. While Ralsei is human soul that doesn’t suffer this issue.
>>573019417Nice to see I wasn't the only one to see Aqua as a Kirby 64-like design
Twisted Sword route is required to have sex with Noelle. Trust the plan.
>>573019365The only thing stopping Undyne from killing Sans is that she kinda likes papyrus
>>573019457Yellow is not asgore, the flowers are people who have relationships with asgore. He does not have a relationship with himself.also surely if there was an asgore flower it would be the most important flower and not some comic relief. >blue has the same face as toriel ok that’s just insulting
>>573019436based
>>573019436>Take me to your Switch to play Deltarune today!>You can't take me to Flower King>I'm drowning in the lake!
>>573016505Did you actually forget about Sans dancing with Toriel at the end of Chapter 4?
>>573018691I'm starting to wonder if he's a reverse case of flowey.In initial prophecy cycles he's callous and a prick, maybe even the final boss, but something happens to make him change and now he's trying to stop the prophecy by just being kind. It would explain "I thought if we did something different, said something different, were just kind enough..." line.
>>573019514the forgotten man still lives in hometown, he buys dinner from QC's in chapter 4. kris is repressing his memory of him.
>>573019504Eggs imply Ralsei is literally an unborn child. But of course the groomer sticks LGBT imagery to the cis girl.
>>573019262So Yoshi eggs are associated with multiple characters, but they're also definitive proof that Green can only represent one specific character? Okay, Green telling Susie their holiday cookie recipes is proof that they can only be Carol and no one else and it's irrelevant if any other character is associated with holiday cookies.
>>573018576it's not makeup those are just his eyes. that sprite you're thinking of also has minified pupils, which he doesn't naturally have
>>573019307We're playing with the scenario of Ralsei being real enough to fuck, if he is real then why wouldn't fave?I know neither are real but I am entertaining the possibility that at least one of them is because the scenario presented by anon demands that I do>>573019331Yeah
>>573019631>Asgore about to wipe out the Joestar bloodline
>>573019558yellow is the actor from the cowboy puppet show, it wants to be a justice cowboy so it's emulating that. it's really that simple.yellow mirrors the knight before it went psycho crazy
Am I doing this right? It’s pretty tough.
>>573019592I’m gonna assume asgore doesn’t know about that based on the fact he hasn’t killed himself yet
Any males here that would like to have sex with Mew Mew? Id imagine that her body would be super into it and might even sing while riding you crazy style, which would be very erotic. And Maddie’s ghost could watch the entire time while begrudgingly providing step-by-step instructions on how to make Mew Mew cum.
>>573019558>He does not have a relationship with himselfOf course he does. Everyone does. Yellow is his sense of justice and his own guilt and self-doubt. A law man who can't solve crimes.
Did Noelle cry when the cats got fat/pregnant?
>>573019601It’s not that Kris is forgetting him. It’s that the man’s properties are like the song of the sea.
>>573018237i'll sit in a padded chair in the corner and watch kris fuck him into a blackout but i don't want to touch him myself. i could never get into self insertion, like i'm not supposed to be there...
do you think if normalnpc gave you absolutely fucking crazy head it would sound something like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvbBLDSpO3A
>>573019727I'd prefer to have sex with Susie while Noelle watches quietly and respectfully.
Ralsei doesn't have a penis. There was no reason for the darkness that made him grow one. Sorry, sex with him is cancelled.
>>573017901They want to give US yummies...perhaps too many...they want a fat gamer heart...oh no
>>573019745>everyone doesI don’t, that would be incredibly weird
>>573019714Woah mama
>>573019714Good Noelle. You can trust me because I’ve viewed many Noelles.
>>573019704Actually, pink reflects the knight.
why is ERAM so hard? gonna kill myself kris is slow and fat
>>573019805How does your brain make this sentence
>>573019881Remember that ERAM doesn't have collision damage.
>>573019489>the organniks specifically associate the butterfly symbolism with a man.You don't understand what that Organikk dialogue is about. It's a reference to Zhuangzi's butterfly dream, it's not about being a man as in a male but a man as in a person. The point is that you can't tell if you woke up from a dream into reality or if you fell asleep in reality and are now in a dream. It's about the relationship between the light world and the dark world and Toriel has ties to that aspect of the plot.
>>573019727Too old. I wish Toby actually commited to the Tokyo Mew Mew parody and made her a cute 13 year old.
>>573019814Exactly, he looks like thishttps://litter.catbox.moe/tnzd8nuh3mymjpe1.jpghe still has a mouth though. Sex is still on the menu.
OK but what if Ralsei grew to be 6’3’’ and became Castle Town’s CEO and made six figures and incited you to be his secretary. What about then?
>>573019616one minor off-hand detail doesn't overpower literally every other detail of the character. green is a mute, and if it's representative of a character from asgore's life they're obviously going to be a mute as well, and there actually are mutes in the plot already so it's asinine to ignore them for other characters.
>>573019805>that fucking video>wha-wha-wha-WHA-WHA-*masturbation sounds*
>>573019805The normal form body's chest area turning into a giant goner mouth would probably feel crazy
>>573019727She starts off begrudging but slowly gets into it…
>>573019704There is no actor from the cowboy puppet show, the cowboy puppet show is a fucking Howdy Doody reference and Howdy Doody was all puppets.
>>573019970this is just tenna's appeal, isn't it? still a no from me
>I want to fuck someone who looks exactly like my motherThis is when I realized Kris is mentally male
>>573019768i hate that this is a minority opinion on 4chuddel. why is everything here about self insertion
>>573019714Yes goodI still struggle with drawing Noelle, I can never settle on how I want to draw her
>>573019805I like the occasional coherent words admist that washing machine of a blowjob wtf lmao
>>5730200753!
>>573019969The dialogue implies Susie found by herself earlier that Ralsei is smooth, why did she check?
>>573020075>it's "male" to want to fuck womenwhatever you say gayboy