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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9461 - Godmarine Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>573062807
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>I need Shadow to mov-
You hate Shadow.
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Chroniclesfag you have to write Hope as a schizophrenic Maria clone who hates Shadow when he gets too ruthless and has a retardedly convoluted link to Eggman
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When anon is happy, I say "that's out of character."
When anon is sad, I say "that's out of character."
When anon is loved by others, I say "that's out of character."
When anon is enjoying life, I say "that's out of character."
When anon is suffering, I say "finally they got someone who knows the character."
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Tails!

>>573112862
Yep, Shadow should stand still and never do anything
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>>573113035
shit literally NOBODY said jesus christ why are tailsfags illiterate
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>>573112991
>uwuver has spread to japan
It's over.
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>>573113112
>it's barely rape
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>>573113093
>I need Shadow to mov-
Only Shadow haters say this. Shadow should NEVER move. It's OOC for him to move. He should just stand still, always
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>>573113153
Evan literally won. Her interpretation of Silver completely replaced Silver. If you portray Silver in-character then people will complain. The damage is done. It will never be fixed.
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>>573113301
Exactly. Everyone knows the most interesting people are the ones who never grow the fuck up
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>>573113013
Shadow is not happy. Cope.
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When Izuka dies, so will Sonic
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>>573113184
>>573113112
Wait I thought that was Manic lol.
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BZZZZZZZT OUT OF CHARACTER, FIRE THOSE NIGGER WRITERS
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>>573113540
IT IS PERFECTLY OKAY FOR COUSIN'S TO FUCK
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>>573113378
>Boring
Says the whore that never read about any character nor played any game
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>>573113301
>>573113478
what the hell are you talking about
shadow moves because of maria
even a toddler can understand this
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>>573113378
>Boring
Fighting demons, gods and adventuring through time is boring but gardening and being a useless fag is not boring at all, who is this retard?
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>>573113656
Every damn story is “muh-ria wah wah wah” he never moves
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>>573113656
Shadow should be cool, cold, distant, and stoic to everyone. You do not like Shadow.
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>character trait has literally never been in any of of the games
>"this character is boring if they don't have this"
comicfaggots
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>>573113656
Shadow moves because of ME, when I hold the controller
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>>573113540
STOP FUCKING YOUR MOM
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>>573113717
He befriended Sonic to even do any of those, that's already OOC
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>>573112862
Its the opposite. I love Shadow enough to accept that him never being able to fill the hole inside his heart is PART OF THE POINT OF HIS CHARACTER.
You people basically want him to be a replacement Sonic and thr main character.
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>>573113717
This is what IDW fans are like. They don't want action, they want feelingshit. Silver being an action hero bores them. He needs to teach sensitivity classes
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>>573113582
Unironically yes, it is a closely-guarded secret to royalty's superiority over peasantry and discouraging it with disinformation among the lower classes helps keeps us up top!
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Quick Review, beat both the main story and the side story dlc
If you have any other version of the game, even the Switch 1 version I can’t recommend it at all.
If you absolutely need to play it but have no other option it’s fine just play in the 30fps mode so you can actually see thing.
Resolution in performance mode is unacceptably low, with performance drops. Over all the visuals are the Switch versions with better foliage and a few fixed models.
A bad version of a mediocre game
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>>573112862
>Be Ian Flynn and friends
You hate Shadow.
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>>573113582
>Cousins
Have I missed something?
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>>573113939
It was my favourite part of John Wick 4 when he bitched and moaned about his dog again
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The series would be in better hands if every American millennial was barred from working on it for life
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Fatdow
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>>573114109
Muhriadowfagging is aids and holds the character back.
It makes him one note. More one-note than he's ever been on the games where people claim he was "reduced to a Sonic rival".
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>>573113939
>>573114065
That was literally exactly what I was saying why are you disagreeing? Shadow can't fill the hole inside his heart. He loves Maria. People saying he should be different are stupid.
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>>573112643
should I jerk off to sonic sluts?
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:D
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>>573114079
In sthg Chronicles it will be revealed that Chris and Hope are Past Eggman and Clone Maria meaning they are cousins and they're going to have hot cousin sex
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>>573113963
>they want feelingshit
thats women so of course silver doing something other than that is boring to them i said before shadow and mainly silver is inuyasha shit that tricked people into being interested and now hes fucked into a corner
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>>573114249
Sonic is meant to be a one-note character franchise. You do not like Sonic the Hedgehog.
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>>573114424
what
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>>573114457
Why don’t you go interact with some shadow content or some-oh yeah you can’t cause of the autism
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>>573114372
Whack it to literally anyone else, but Marine is a pure being and my daughter.
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Did alota deliver the requests?
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Boyboyboyboyboyboyboy

>>573114249
Wrong. It's not acquired, it's native

>>573114475
She's in the game? Cool
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>>573114249
Muhriafagging IS the character you stupid fucking retarded five year old autistic nonce reddit NIGGER

WHAT GAME DID YOU LIKE SHADOW MOST IN
HE WAS DRIVEN BY MARIA IN THAT GAME TOO

YOU
STUPID
FAGGOT
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>>573114703
>WHAT GAME
The answer is probably none lol
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>>573114619
The requests were too complex for him unfortunately
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>>573114653
>Tailsfags bitch about people hating their character but then try and sabotage other peoples' favorite characters
You guys deserve every ounce of shit you get.
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What is a Sonic fan?
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>>573114850
How am I sabotaging anything lol
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>>573113727
>>573113939
in games like '06 he was fighting for Maria's wish. It mentions Maria in one of the '06 bios.
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Sabotage is a funny word
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>>573114703
You wouldn’t be this pissy if you weren’t aware you’re wrong. His character is motorcycles guns and turning down babes. The dead kid is just flavour
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>>573114902
A miserable little pile of incest!
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Felching and santorum are also funny words
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>>573115089
Yeah "fetching" is pretty funny
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>>573114970
And now it’s been 23 consistent years of him being too pussy to move on from a dead kid he apparently wanted to fuck soooo bad
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>>573115089
Y’know I word I like? Nowadays, I can’t believe that’s an actual word
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>>573114938
You know what you're doing foxfag.
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>>573114280
>That was literally exactly what I was saying why are you disagreeing?
Im not disagreeing. Im agreeing. Im explaining my agreement.
>>573114703
>Muhriafagging IS the character you stupid fucking retarded five year old autistic nonce reddit NIGGER
No it isn't. It literally
Wasn't even a part of his character at conception. They added it later in development.
She is supposed to add to his character by being part of his angst, not be the single all encompassing factor for his motivation as a character.
>WHAT GAME DID YOU LIKE SHADOW MOST IN
>HE WAS DRIVEN BY MARIA IN THAT GAME TOO
ShtH and 06 he wasn't driven by Maria.
Only famgirls believe he needs Maria to work as a character.
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I have Boy fever
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>>573115168
Move on to what? Rouge? Amy? Fuck off already.
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>>573114653
Colors are most likely definitely wrong, but yes
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Okay here’s an actual shadow question: what if he had his own funhouse mirror version like nine who never got attached to anyone?
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>>573115031
Ooc retard debunked by the game's maker
>Iizuka: When we talk about Shadow, he would use whatever he needed in the moment to get the job done. So he would pick up a gun or ride a bike in order to get the job done – he’s that kind of character. But he’s also extremely powerful on his own and doesn’t really need a gun or anything because he can do it himself – he is a weapon. So as long as there’s no need for Shadow to use a gun, he will probably not use one.
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>>573115168
Shitdow cant have any friends for no good reason
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>>573114970
>in games like '06 he was fighting for Maria's wish
No he wasn't.
Shadow fights powerful threats and troublemakers because he personally doesn't like seeing people do as they please without consequences.
You people want him to have 0 autonomy.
>Maria IS his autonomy
No she isn't.
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>>573114475
Chris and Hope need to have sex
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Douge
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>>573115427
Awww pussy. Are you sad I’m right?
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>>573112643
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>>573115543
>no link or source
Why sabotage yourself?
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>>573115537
Boom but taken seriously? That could be interesting
>>573115665
I wonder if we'll ever actually hear Marine speak. There's hardly any australian voice actresses in the gaming industry.
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>>573115543
>So he would pick up a gun or ride a bike in order to get the job done – he’s that kind of character
Thanks for calling me right, retard
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>>573115365
>ShtH and 06 he wasn't driven by Maria.
Yes he was, play the game and read the bios.
>>573115569
Because it's not the character. He never had friends.
>>573115576
Maria is indeed his autonomy. You do not understand Shadow.
>>573115698
Google it, I'm not your babysitter.
>>573115657
Of course it's a shipper. You're confirming Maria is a threat to your ship by seething about it so often.
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>>573115701
Silver who?
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>>573115569
That makes me wonder what someone Shadow would be homies with would be like,

What would their oNe nOtE be?
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I love Marine.
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>>573115835
And your only defence is being wrong, Jesus Christ puss ass
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>>573114475
Ken Penders confirmed that Hope is a clone of Maria and wasn't meant to be close to Shadow, she was actually a stepping stone to get him closer to Sally. Hope can cope on the Thorndyke.
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>>573115312
I do know I was making a joke about NIDS, idk what you thought I was doing

>>573115527
Imada seems undecided on what her eye color should be. Sometimes it's green, sometimes it's brown, and I don't think he has drawn colored with her usual outfit yet
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I'm glad Chronicles is still here, I thought the Scribbles talk got to him (P.S. it's a compliment if true fr)
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>>573115732
Makes me wonder how long it would take him to realise he’s just being used as a weapon, I mean you know he would. Or maybe he wouldn’t care and just become the worlds best mercenary that would be based, no dumbass sick kid angle
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>>573115732
>australian voice actresses
Fuck off with that "person needs to be teh same race, nationality, ethnicity to voice a character" bullshit.
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>>573116125
Yep definitely totally a different guy 1000%
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>>573115770
It means that Shadow only uses a gun or a motorcycle if it's convenient. Same with his allyship with Rouge and with Eggman in SA2. He just uses whatever is around to his advantage, he is not just about guns and motorcycles. They are simply another means of achieving his goal.
>he would use whatever he needed in the moment to get the job done.
That's what that says.

>>573116018
You do not like Shadow. Ship what you want but don't destroy the character in order to do it.
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>>573115945
Aussie characters are pretty great, wonder why there aren’t more of them

Lowkey they might’ve shot themselves in the foot making Australian and British mobes from a different dimension
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The retard foid is here
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>>573116179
Americans are really bad at sounding Australian, all of you literally just copy the crocodile hunter. I want authenticity if Marine talks.
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>>573115835
>Yes he was, play the game and read the bios.
Take your own advice. The Muhriadow ending is 1 route in the game and only really comes up near the very end of said route.
>Google it, I'm not your babysitter
You're trying to make an argument. I dont owe it to you to source them for you.
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>>573116219
Wah wah wah you know I’m right. People like furry John Wick not furry Mr Freeze
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>>573115665
>Welcome to Marine the Raccoon General! Here we discuss all things Hydro!
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>>573112991
Why is Tails raw dogging Silver in that panel
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>>573116482
It takes less than 30 seconds to copy the quote and paste it into Google search.
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/features/interviews/shadow-doesnt-need-a-gun-he-is-a-weapon-sonic-team-talks-shadow-generations/
>>573116504
Shadow was popular since debut, so no.
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Ignore foids. Report foids. Make fun of foids. Laugh at foid mental problems. Refuse to help foids. Make foids feel uncomfortable. Feed into foid insecurities. Brainwash foids into being corporate slaves. Teach foids in school that all men will rape and beat them. Make foids scared to talk to men. Make foids scared to go outside. Make foids compete with eachother for 1 man. Make foids hate themselves and their foid kin. Remove all foid characteristics of foid characters. Teach foids that having a family is bad and that they don't want kids. Give foids antidepressants so they can torture themselves more. Flood foid spaces with suicide prevention so they can't just kill themselves.

TOTAL FOID MISERY FOREVER
Also Big is my favorite character. He ignores foids like all men should do. They don't need us after all. Lol.
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>>573116650
Haahah, y’know what small tops are called sometimes? Backpacks
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>>573116710
>”N-no no!”

Puss ass
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>>573116550
Never forget she was queen of sthg for like 2 weeks
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>>573116710
>30 seconds
>copy the quote and paste it
You're such a casual. That's so unoptimized that it's laughable. I can do it in less than 3 seconds. Just double click the text, right click, and then click on "Search". It can be even faster, at least on my PC, instead of the last click I can keep holding the right click and then release it when the cursor is on "Search"
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I am reading Please Save My Earth again
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>>573117012
Why is that raccoon so sensual? This is ABT's fault.
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>>573117079
That's what I do but I was assuming anon was too dumb
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I can hear the fire alarms going off in the high school I live across the street from...
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>>573117239
Alright then, your reputation as an Internet autist remains intact
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>>573117396
Least it’s not gunshots, right?
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>>573117612
I used to hear them every night in the little park right next to the school. At first it wasn't that intense, but after a couple weeks I started hearing automatic rifles and shotguns. That was a while ago now, though.
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https://files.catbox.moe/2i04ur.webm
uh ohhh~
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>>573117396
>>573117612
Randomfox lost it...
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>>573117778
Jesus Christ dude do you live in chiraq?
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>>573117885
No, southeast USA. No idea why they would pick a nice park to shoot in, but I never heard about any deaths or saw any police tape, so I don't know if it was a fight or what. It was a really weird time to be doing it, maybe late 2022 or early 2023, the ass end of covid.
The worst part was that every time I heard it, I would grab my cat and hit the deck, but she would get angry because she didn't realize she might get hit.
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>>573117318
i love her tired and bitch face
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>>573118149
Cats are so funny that way. Glad to hear it doesn’t happen no more that sounds freaky as fuck
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Dead general
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>>573116710
>It takes less than 30 seconds to copy the quote and paste it into Google search.
And yet you didnt just do it the first time. Glad you learned your lesson. Have some standards.

>>573116710
>Shadow was popular since debut, so no.
Shadow was popular independant of Maria.
Mariadowshilling was just a meme pushed by fangirls and social outcasts in the 2010s to fight off the OwTheEdge memes clowning on him for being edgy.
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Rich girls love Tails.
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>>573118941
>Mariadowshilling was just a meme pushed by fangirls
(You). Fangirls often want him to move on from Maria so they can fuck him. You are effeminate.
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>>573118256
Thanks, anon!
The fire alarms are off and I don't think it's on fire, but the firefighters are here to look at the damage anyway.
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>>573119074
>Fangirls often want him to move on from Maria so they can fuck him
No lol.
>(You)
Im a dude and Shadow isnt even in my top 5 fave characters. Shadow is unsphippable to me. The closest thing he felt to love is Maria and that was a liability. Shadow isn't allowed to be happy.
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>>573119294
>No lol.
We just went over the Katie drama. She's trying to remove Maria from Shadow because she wants to fuck him and ship him with Amy. You are like a middle-aged liberal white woman.
The fact that you believe love is a chain is sad. But there's a character for you...! It's Sonic! Go like him because you clearly don't like Shadow.
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>>573119445
Fake drama created by another foid
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If Shadow isn't brooding over Maria, his fangirls stop caring about him and just see him as a edgy jerk.
That's the reality they won't admit out loud.
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>>573119335
Yeah, pretty much.
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>>573119708
yes removing a giant chunk of the core fanbase for the actual canon character is a bad decision that's why you shouldn't make him forget maria. congrats
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>>573119445
>She's trying to remove Maria from Shadow because she wants to fuck him and ship him with Amy.
This doesn't make any sense. The main thing people use to say Shadow likes Maria is by saying she reminds Shadow of Maria.
Maria is not on the bio because Sonic Team and SoJ insisted upon it because he is supposed to have moved on.
Its so obvious that this is the reason.
Maria wasn't on his Sonic Channel bio either for over 2 decades and that is what is adapted.

Shitdowfags out here making up conspiracy theories when characters like Amy, Sonic and and Metal are actually getting fucked by comparison.
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>>573119708
"Shadow should never remember or be motivated by Maria" fags mean they want Shadow dating Amy and Team Dark painting their nails together. They are the Uwuverfags of Shadow.
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>>573119708
It's like how they needed Edward Cullen to constantly obsess over whatever the girl's name was. It shows he cares about someone other than himself. Otherwise he would have just been a creepy, standoffish autismo vampire
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>>573119949
You're not fooling anyone Katie. There's a reason why that one Shadougetard acts so aggressive. Shadow's love for Maria threatens them because they know deep down Shadow may as well be married to her.
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>Oh Sonic, I love you like a brother.
Amy says to Sonic in Movie 4 as the IED beneath my theater seat activates.
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>>573119843
>giant chunk
It literally isn't. It was literally a background thing. Never even comes up in more than 80% of his game appearances and only came up again recently for movie synergy.
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>>573115576
Shadow fucks troublemakers.
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>>573117783
Cute
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>>573119956
>ship schizophrenia out of nowhere
Shipping is mental illness
Shadow should be sigmapilled.

>>573119981
It's legit why they claimed his "character was "dumbed down" when in reality that was legit just what Shadow is like when he isnt hogging the spotlight and being woobified by fangirls because he was sad his onesan waifu died.

Back at peak Vegetadowsperging era, I posted a picture of him sad with a Maria doll having a borthday party for her by himself and it got a million likes on Xwitter
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>>573119335
>roll to gain speed downhill
This has never actually been necessary. Not even in Sonic 1
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>>573120153
Maria is dead.
The main ways they ship Shadow with any girl is by Maria replacement fagging.
Shadamyfags do it. Shadikalfags do it. Shadougefags try doing it and even try doing Amy comparisons to do it by proxy.

They will also claim Maria was "just his sister" in the same breath which is hypocritical and retarded.

Everyone involved is retarded.

Maria is gone. There will never be another Maria. Shadow got to mourn. He had a cry about it. He doesnt need to Mariafag anymore.
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>>573119817
This just reads like someone trying to be the smartest contrarian in the room over something most people don't have a problem with.
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>>573120728
bad comparison
you couldn't manually uncurl in sonic 1, and you still gain more speed rolling than running
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Sonic characters for this feel?
https://youtu.be/6-ursDMfXt8
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>>573119817
>false sense of doing something
Bro pretending pressing Down on a slope to watch Sonic roll through setpieces is "doing something".
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>>573121042
I made no comparisons. I said that the image is just wrong. You don't need slopes to gain speed. The second point is also wrong, you often need to stop or change direction or be careful with your movement. The goal isn't to "maintain your speed after rolling downhill", Sonic games have never been designed like that.
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I'm tired of seeing the same Shitdow discussion over and over again.
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>>573121248
>You don't need slopes to gain speed.
But you do need slopes, springs, and or dash pads to gain top speed.
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>>573120208
>It was literally a background thing
Then does it trigger you? Why is a background element making you mad? Why do you need Shadow to forget her?

>>573120849
Shadow would be a villain if he stopped remembering Maria. They confirmed that in SA2. They confirmed that in Jet Black Hedgehog. He would fall completely into how much he despises everything and destroy the planet (and succeed). Shadow's love for Maria is the only reason your favorite character isn't dead right now. If he didn't have it, he wouldn't have stopped the ARK. He would have joined Black Doom in subjugating all of humanity.

>>573120517
Iizuka and Maekawa disagree with you and they're not fangirls. You are simply wrong.
Nobody says he needs to retread the story over and over, but the memory of Maria's smile is what keeps him going. Why else would he even want to live?

Imagine being Shadow, created to cure a fragile dying girl who loves you.
Imagine failing immediately, your disgusting blood useless in her veins.
Imagine doubting your right to exist after crushing their last hope of a cure.
Imagine the visceral self-hatred that makes you wish you were never made.
Imagine the girl sacrificing herself for you because she loves you, a failure.
Imagine her plea searing into your mind, protect Earth, make people happy.
Imagine reaching that blue planet she adored, ready to redeem your birth.
Imagine discovering a faster, brighter version of yourself is already there.
Imagine him living your purpose perfectly, happily, naturally, joyfully.
Imagine your arrival only bringing fear, anger, sadness, and disgust.
Imagine people smiling in adoration at him while they tremble before you.
Imagine understanding you're a redundant shadow, inferior by design.
Imagine knowing every experiment and every death was meaningless.

You'd want to destroy the disgusting world that punished you for simply being alive too.
But Shadow remembers one beautiful thing, and it is the love he once felt. So he doesn't.
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>>573119817
The boost doesnt exist to compensate for lack of muhmentum. Its the reverse. Momentum isnt major part of thr game because of the boost.
This was undoubtedly an intentional design choice to make the game more appealing to general audiences who never can intuitively grasp the concept of rolling down hills and slopes and end up frustrated and then complain about not being able to go fast in Sonic, so the Boost system rethinks the relationship the player has with speed to make it more intuitive.

You can go fast at any point but it has a cost. To keep going fast you need to upkeep it to have gas to keep boosting.

If you dont do this, you will get damaged by enemies in straightaways that we normally would never place there because now its on the player for not having failed to upkeep their boost meter.

This is easier for the average player to understand and interface with and is actually more player driven whereas rolling is more level driven.

If I wanna be pretentious, I can say the that rolling in the Classics creates the illusion of playing the game when its more about knowing where and when the devs want you to roll than it is about player agency.
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>>573120849
Rouge made the Amy comparison herself.
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I can see what Amy's sees in him. No wonder she chases this hot piece of ass around, everyone bitching about Amy just want Sonic to themselves.
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>>573121803
>Shadow would be a villain if he stopped remembering Maria
You don't like shadow if you believe this.
Shadow only became a villain BECAUSE of Maria. Maria's death along with Geralds programming made him deem humanity deserving of death.
When he lost his memory, his reaction to humanity was to not fare about them and think they were pathetic. That's it.

>>573121803
>Iizuka and Maekawa disagree with you and they're not fangirls
No they don't disagree with me. Maria being relevant to his character doesn't mean she is the entirety of the core of his existence.
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>>573122012
You keep posting this everytime and you get the same response everytime. Dont you get tired? You're literally talking to the same person over and over.
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Good solid Sonic games? Out of character.
Near shovelware """3D""" chasing fad again boostshit? In character.
You wanna former? You don't like Sonic.
Crossslop? Sonic would do that.
A fandom without shippingfaggots, spics and powerlevelfaggotry? Fanfiction.
Being a miserable gooner stroking to Tails rape or diaper Amy futa porn? Yuji Naka approves it.
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>>573122091
You're phrasing it as if Amy wanted to dick him in the ass
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Shadriafags just want a flanderized uwu softboy shadow who wants to fuck them.
Shadria is shit like every other ship, the goal of shipping it to ruin the characters so you sit in the cuck chair as they both fuck for you.
All Shadow Shippers hate Shadow and refuse to understand him truly and choose to woobify him into emo sad boy who secertly is a small bean uwu.
I'm sick of dealing with it.
I swear no one actually likes Shadow given how the fanbase treats him.
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>open thread
>kr*ck attention whoring and samefagging hard with her own puppets
>close thread
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>>573120551
FYI, if the guy you're playing against has zero misses and four hits divided between two of your ships, he's cheating.
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>>573122536
Women like grabbing firm male butts while kissing or cuddling. Maybe not dicking him down, but she's 100% gonna be gripping it.
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>>573121850
>an intentional design choice to make the game more appealing to general audiences
Yeah that's what it said. Changing classic Sonic design in order to appeal to a modern audience....Who didn't care which is why Sonic Mania became a thing. None of those 2d dimps games ever came close.
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>>573122259
I would've just posted the amy but I didn't feel like trimming it down.

No.

Yeah. His name is anon.
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>>573121803
>and succeed
Let's not get carried now. Sonic would beat him effortlessly if he actually was a villain.
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silver actually wonned something (for now)
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>>573123104
and what is that anon?
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Fox knots.
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>>573123123
representing england
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Classic Sonic games are fucking boring, and easy as shit, I don't know why anyone sucks them off.
Oh wow I hold forward and rooll down a fucking slope, fucking amazing this truly rivals Mario.
When will fags just accept Sonic was always mid, I can't believed I was suckered into playing Sonic Shit excepting something decent, general audience probably got bored considering it seems like back them peole shat on them for being piss easy, and that's still very clearly the case.
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>>573122879
>which is why Sonic Mania became a thing
The Drop Dash game?
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>>573123214
Tailsfags say this while they let their dogs fuck them all the time.
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>>573122879
>Who didn't care which is why Sonic Mania became a thing. None of those 2d dimps games ever came close.

Mania wasn't loved by general audiences.
Normies say Mania was good because review sites said it was so they begrudgingly concede on the subject but they didnt play it themselves and those that did bounce off it it after GreenHill.
Had all my friends play Mania and that was consistently their experience.

Same friends all loved Rush and insist its amazing.

This isnt me being a boost apologist either. Im just stating facts.

Momentumfagging has always just been pretentious navelgazing to me anyway.
Momentum isn't ehat was fun about the classics. Slow physics were.
Momentum was more just a thing you felt smart about knowing that casuals didn't.
It never is meaningfully a part of actual platforming or the crux of the actual involved gameplay in the Classics.

The only game to do anything with in in that regard is CD, whoch Classicfags retroactively pretend created and solidified the entirety of Classic Sonic's identity.
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>>573122091
Nic is for Dow
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>>572938590
Here's the full whiteboard. Thank you to everyone who showed up!
Full-res image is in the booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=19684
PSD archive (includes uncensored boards):
https://mega.nz/folder/DKBSlDYb#GdR4FN7QFEOFtS_30ZT4_A
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https://files.catbox.moe/6v06uj.webp
https://files.catbox.moe/grxiqs.jpg
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mario mario
amy amy
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There is not one official Sonic game in existence that exceeds decent.
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>>573122132
Prove me wrong.
You're so... media illiterate. Shadow's true memories of Maria is what pulled him back to the good side. Gerald had to erase those memories of her to turn him bad in the first place. Black Doom tried the exact same trick. Most major "bad guys" in Shadow's life try to rip him away from Maria and her memory.
You're no different from them. You're mad that his love for her keeps blocking you from twisting him into whatever you want him to be.

>>573122631
Shadow's love for Maria isn't something effeminate like you seem to think.
A man who can't be moved by a woman's love is empty. The ones who let it drive them are the dangerous ones who become legends. Think about it. Achilles burned the world down over the loss of the woman he loved. Odysseus spent ten years fighting and another ten trying to get back to Penelope. There are countless examples of men changing the course of history in the same way.
True masculine drive has always been fueled by the willingness to burn the world down for your heart. A real man is not afraid of his heart. You want to cut Shadow's balls off so he is more tame and controllable and it's not appreciated.
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>>573123595
SONIC
ON THE RUN
SONIC
NUMBER ONE
SONIC
COMING FAST SO WATCH OUT FOR SONIC X

GOTTA GO FAST
GOTTA GO FASTER FASTER FASTER FASTER FASTER SONIC X
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>>573123448
>Mania wasn't loved by general audiences.
Neither were the dimps games which is why Sonic Team had to go running back to what worked. Chasing "general audiences" i.e your "friends" failed. And unlike Sonic Forces, dem Dimps games didn't suck ergo it wasn't a quality issue.

And I don't see Sonic Team making a pure 2d boost game...Cause the 3d boost games are already full of 2d segments.
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>>573122958
SA2 last story proves you wrong, ARK would have crashed if Shadow hadn't changed his mind. Black Doom had Sonic paralyzed with alien gas, he would've succeeded too.
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>>573123448
Classicfags are more or less "larpers," super schizos, or hipsters.
They're the reason Classic Sonic lost his edge because they thought he Mario if he were a furry creature. They legitimately justify the Modern Designs because Sega Thought Sonic looked to kiddie.
They Hate Sonic. Simple as.
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>>573123595
Wow are you all americans
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06 killed the franchise for good btw.
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>>573123291
>general audience probably got bored considering it seems like back them peole shat on them for being piss easy, and that's still very clearly the case.
Actually based on old forum posts people found the games tough. The people that called the games too easy were elites from other platform games and they like.

Objectively though, Sonic IS easy for platformer standards of the time. Ring system, limited levels and thr Spin Attack is basically like having the Super Matio 3 Star powerflips all the time but when you jump. This is of course balanced out by enemies having different spike patterns on them but yeah.

This is why the ranking system had to be introduced once the games went 3D.
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>>573123757
SEGA wouldn't allow it, they would write the stories differently.
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>>573123938
I honestly think the old games can benefit from a ranking system of some sort.
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>>573123448
>Slow physics were.
*slope physics
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>>573122674
I'm tired of her
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>>573123780
We need to distinguish between legitimate fans of the early games and classicposers

>>573124020
Same
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>>573124020
Origins did that, somewhat, with Mission mode. I think its neat.
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>573123637(you)
You like your fanfic of Shadow, not Shadow The Hedgehog or his actual journey.
That's why you shit out Shadria constantly, shadow is nothing but an item for shipping.
Shipping always perverts the characters into something warped because you can only see though a hyper specific lens.
You Hate Shadow.
And you shit up all Shadow Discourse more than it already had.
I wish shadow Died so he'd stop getting raped by fake fans.
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>>573123595
This looks like complete ass. You fags keep drawing the same shit every weekend.
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One must question the judgment of anyone who would attempt to debate Krack on this particular matter.
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>>573124180
This is literally how I feel every time I see people argue with Krack about Shadow.
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>>573123595
Neat
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>>573124180
>debate
As if it could be that when she will never shift for anyone.
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>>573123332
Which they then added to Forces, Origins, Frontiers, Superstars, and the Sonic Gens "remake" because it turns out people like having something that creates speed (like a spin dash or peelout) rather than having to play Sonic 1 and go back far enough to get enough speed to roll through a wall or something, which isn't very fun.
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Fan games will always win. Momentum rocks. Debate me.
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>>573124324
she's changed her mind before it just happens gradually
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>>573124389
>rather than having to play Sonic 1 and go back far enough to get enough speed to roll through a wall or something, which isn't very fun.
I disagree with this, I love Sonic 1.

But yeah, people like instant speed buttons like the Boost and the Drop Dash. Including the classicposers
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Requests maybe?
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>>573124520
Sonic being free like the wind
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>>573124520
seconding >>573124547
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>>573124324
krack shifted xer gender
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>>573124547
Sonic is freer than a black man who just found out his bitch is pregnant.
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>>573123619
I wish I could find a good stuffed Amy for not too much money. There are some cheap ones but they look jank as fuck, and the ones that look decent are pretty expensive for their size. I've got some Nesoberis and stuff I could put her with on top of my figure shelves.
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>>573124520
Marine swimming in energy
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I think we should dox krack, then send /sthg/s strongest poster to rape her and give birth to the ultimate autist and we'll call it Project Shadow.
The baby will be raised in a dark room with nothing but doritos, energy drinks, /sthg/ and having a CD Player that players nothing but Zavok Spammer posts.
They'll be a perfect being the represents our halls.
Once unleashed, generations will be Forces to change, and those who don't open their heart will obliterated and all hail shadow.
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>>573124520
I don't believe you anymore
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>>573124424
What momentum?
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>>573123595
That Black Doom's near oil painting replicating splendid art is doing me things... I went to the booru through Black Doom's tag and I think I fell in love with it.
Longshot here but would you happen to know if he's got a twt acct or someplace else for looking his gallery, assuming he doesn't mind it? I'd love to commission him. I'm wondering if he's the one that gifted me this before, still really love it.
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>>573123595
I don't really want to play favorites, but the Black Doom guy knocks it out of the park every week. It's amazing how consistently good they are.
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>>573123780
Classicfags were basically just a bunch of pretentious romhack elitists who made up ideas in their heads about what Sonic is because they found CD and found it cool, and have years of muscle memory of pressing down on slopes as their source of dopamegernic release, and then acted like pseuds about game design when they hadn't a clue about it in any regard, just because they could make romhacks.
Its an artifact of gaming culture at the time in general, the same way Meleefags made Project M to "fix brawl" because clearly Sakurai "didn't know what he was doing" even though Melee is literally likes for being broken and exploitable.

PC gaming culture was and still kind of is like this in general where an emphasis is placed on "feeling like you are smarter than the devs and exploiting or ciconventing the game's intended design".
Metroidfags had this same thing with sequencebreakfags legit calling certain games better or worse based on hoe much you can sequence break.

I love the classics, and I have my problems with modern Sonic games, but holy shit, if you offer the devs even a modicum of grace and get off your ass, its so easy to see that the devs actually do know what they were doing game design wise, and its more a conflict of interest than pure incompetence.

Doesn't help that Sonic fans tend to latch onto sentimentalities in game design over actually caring about the game being good since the games are so reliant on style, vibes and appeal, which is much more subjective.
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>>573124520
this but with Espio and Vector with Vector as Yujiro
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>>573124520
Tits or gtfo
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>>573124520
Omega and Vectorman shooting at Orbot.
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>>573124704
I had no clue Freedom Planet's physics were like Sonic 4's. I wonder how Sonic Team pulled it off in 1991.
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>>573124504
I like Sonic 1, too, but we've all played through the start of the game at Green Hill, run up against that same fuck-ass wall, and slogged back far enough that we could get enough speed to roll through it. It's a rite of passage, and not a fun one, and that's why every version of the game since Sonic Jam has added the spin dash to it.
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>>573124520
cute amy
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>>573114475
Chris cummed inside Hope
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>>573123595
Remove Roads please, his art looks like shit.
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>>573124154
I loved Shadow before I became a Shadriafag. In fact, before I became fully Shadriapilled, I was resorting to shipping Shadow with myself. But as I understood Sonic Team's perspective better, I realized the trvth.
If it were only about using Shadow as a shipping object, I wouldn't be a Shadriafag at all. I'd get attacked far less if I shipped OC x canon, Shadouge, Shadamy, even Sonadow. Plus humans are harder to draw.
But I defend Shadria because I love Shadow and Shadow loved Maria. Shadow's heart is important to me, and Maria's heart was important to Shadow. I think it's nice that someone understood Shadow even though he isn't open and happy.
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>>573123757
Shadow wasn't a villain in thr last story. Black Doom takes the emeralds. He doesnt give them to him.
And when he sees way Doom is doing, he opposes Black Doom OF HIS OWN VOLITION.
>but the Gerald vide-
He already decided to oppose Black Doom of his own volition.

The idea Shadow needs Maria to not be evil is literally a (You) problem. Shadow doesnt need Muhria's wish to oppose evildoers. He does it because he finds them despicable shitlords that have no business doing as they please.
That's resson enough for him.

Then he sees Gerald and Maria's video about how they intended for him to use the Eclipse cannon and made him knowing he would stop him. Its supplementary and informs his existing motivation rather than being his motivation.
But self proclaimed Shadowfags didnt play the game so they dont know this.
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>>573124680
I don't think it was him this time or last time. Just someone trolling.
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FOR FUCKS SAKE WHY DO YOU KEEP REPLYING TO BAIT YOU RETARDED WALKING VAGINA
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>>573124804
Freedom Planet's physics engine is the "Sonic Worlds" engine. The Sonic Worlds engine was an engine created in Clickteam Fusion based on the decomplications of the OG Sonic games. Naturally, it's imperfect which is why Christian Whitehead made his own engine from scratch.

In a modern engine, it's not hard to get the physics like the OG games (I say "like" cause every Sonic game has mild differences in physics). Most just can't get over the hurdle of "How do I design my game without a spindash" thus you get walking up walls and slopes.
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Shadow the Hedgehog is a fucking siscon.
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>>573124154
I mean, that post is kinda right, though. You guys want him to move on from Maria, even though her existence doesn't lock Shadow out of doing other things. And then when told he's not gonna give her up, your response is "THEN HE'S BETTER OFF DEAD!" that's literally how a villain speaks when they realize they can't manipulate someone to do their bidding anymore.
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>>573124804
Video games used to be a medium of passion. There wasn't a lot of money to be made, you worked shit hours and slept at the office, and MAYBE your game would sell enough for you to make another. But devs would come up with all kinds of crazy shit to pull of technical wizardry that shouldn't have existed. Now it's a few hundred people in a corporate studio using pre-built engines and patching everything wrong with the game after release (if at all) while about 5-10% of the staff actively wants to sabotage the project or hates working on it because of some weird hangup they have, like that one guy who worked on Halo but hated guns.
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>>573124020
I thought about it but it just doesn't work with how they are designed.
You can't make them time based because then you have to design the level with less of a brisk pace and it discourages looking around too much. And you can't go by score because then you have to place enemies around more as scoring opportunities than actual obstacles.

The issues that the ranking system was solving in 3D dont exist in the classics. Though o do like the idea in principle, it would have to be rethought completely.
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>>573123637
>Shadow's true memories of Maria is what pulled him back to the good side.
No it didn't. It just made him.change his mind about genocide.
And you call ME media illiterate?
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>>573125041
People forget Shadow is actually a good natured person as his default, he saves rouge in his heroes intro when he wakes up with no memories.
Gerald just fucked him up mentally to be more predisposed to killing people.
SA2dow's whole thing was he was bond by the desires of others, never flinching or thinking for himself, even with Maria he follows her orders, her final wish.
When it's all said in done and Shadow does take in who he is and what he wants to do he choose to consistantly be good. 06 is another good example as he does seem upset at what his future holds yet CHOOSES to still stop mephlis.
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I didn't believe it before but I'm beginning to wonder if this is Krack self-replying
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>>573125631
Newfag, she always does this.
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Several shitposters samefag here, nothing new.
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>>573125279
I was thinking of making them more like trials. Like how Advance 3 is structured around using team-combos and finding chao, but it still has time trials with grades/ranks.
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Shame how Freedom Planet went down the shitter with the 2nd game being a lightning rod of sophomoric politics that gated Classic Mode behind beating the game.

Also, making Spade a child molester was just in bad taste.
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>>573125041
>Defeated by Black Doom's mind control
>Sees the footage of Gerald and Maria
>Concludes it's his truth and overcomes Doom's mind control
Media illiterate.
>>573125252
Exactly this. How is anon different than Gerald using him for revenge? Or Black Doom using him for his genocidal goals? Or G.U.N. calling him an animal and sayin they need Maria to step aside so he can be shut down? Shadow is not chained by Maria, he is freed by her.
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>>573125279
I feel like best way would be score attack, and maybe make it so you get a score multiplier based on actions.
I think a Fan Game did this where you had a meter that went down progressively, and refiled when bouncing off enemies, hitting monitors collecting lives, grabbing onto background object prevented it form depleting, and invinciblity also prevented it from depleting.
You also have the special stages maybe tie those into getting score. Maybe make it work SRB2 where you collect a token to go into the special stage so it isn't stop and go, you just get multiple attempts based on how many tokens you got in the stage, and of course the amount of rings you carried past the sign post will boost score.
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>>573125439
Amy's words unlocked memories of Maria that Gerald repressed.
>>573125536
Yeah, he CHOOSES to protect the happiness of people such as Maria. Good job.
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>>573125041
Didn't Shadow still have flashes of memories of her Maria in his game, though. Also, was it ever stated what paths Shadow took canonically?
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>>573125854
Wait wtf, is this real? I never heard of this shit about Freedom Planet??
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>>573125631
I can't type that fast. You guys always do this when more than one person disagrees with you about making canon Shadow into Archie Shadow.
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>>573124520
Seconding this>>573124771
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>>573123742
>Neither were the dimps games which is why Sonic Team had to go running back to what worked.
That's horseshit. The boost games were loved by general audiences. Advance 2 is the most popular game with normies of the trilogy despite being clowned on by dedicated fans. Adv 3 was more mixed because the team system made things complicated and made level experience more of a dice roll.

Sonic 4 is only clowned on by general audiences because we as fans clown on it. A lot of this brand's negative view is a result of fans crapping on it and turning general audiences away from products, and/or teaching them how to hate them.

This doesnt mean o im dismissing criticisms either. General audiences will inevitably play Sonic enough and come to the same conclusions we have if they stick around enough, but most dont because too many games arent designed with general appeal, so they bounce off before they can get invested.

This is part of why Frobtiers was so well recieved despite being unpolished and why Colors and Generations did better than Unleashed.
Unleashed is technically the more demanding and involved game but that makes it less appealing to general audiences who play games as leisure, rather than as a pseudo career where they have somethkng to prove online by flexing their e-cred over their speedrun and time attack times.

But this has the issue of making Sonic games that feel like disposable experiences.

My sister actually likes Forces for example and said she didnt get the hate despite her watching me play it and be unengaged and checked out the entire time I played it myself the first time.

Its a balance the devs have to strike and its hard to do with a series as volatile as Sonic since its thing is speed.


>>573124129
I actually liked the mission mode ranking system in Origins. That was fun.
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>>573126085
>>573125016
>>573123637
>>573121803
Reply.
Your.
Boyfriend's.
DMs.
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Why are you faggots so autistic?
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>>573124324
Krack used to be a Vegetadoesperg who insisted Sonic Team didnt understand the character. She has changed. She is just really stubborn and takes time to shift and has a tendency to be autistically oppositional.
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>>573125983
Shadow didn't choose because of Maria anymore because he progressed as a character and isn't her lap dog.
Shadow is just a side piece o Maria and lacks all of his nuance. He's not allowed to grow beyond Maria which would unironically make her proud to he him become his own person living his life how he sees fit.
Your Idea of Shadow is him being a slave to her and her wishes he chooses MAria because he can't think for himself.
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If you disagree with both Iizuka and Maekawa your opinion is simply wrong. They wrote '06 and Shadow the Hedgehog and Rivals. All games that do not focus on Maria. And yet both still view Shadow as driven by love.
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>>573124389
"B-but muh platonic idea of le building up speed and momentum!"
The spindash is le bad! It helps those filthy casuals actually enjoy the game! Same with those pesky dash pads! Even though most of the time they exist just to aid on palyer guidance and get you to skip the part of standing still and mashing the action button first
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The relationship between Shadow and Maria is moving on.
Let Shadow be a catboy and kiss human men as he pleases.
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I've said this before every time I see this debate. Okay, so Shadow moves on from Maria. Now what's supposed to happen? What's supposed to change?
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Please stop repeating the same talking points about Shadow, better yet just stop talking about him altogether.
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>>573126569
He is friends with Rouge and Omega and they blow everyone's shit.
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>>573126569
Shadow finally FUCKS (you)
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>>573126615
How does moving on from Maria suddenly make him want to be friends with people?
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>>573124424
Momentum wasn't a "gamrplay" thing in thr Classics outside of arguably CD. It was a game feel thing. When tou make momentum more gameplay focused, it makes the game less fun and more janky.
The only people that prefer that are a minority of romhack and time attack brained people who like treating games as toys to fuck around with the mechanics of over a gameplay experience you are engaging with.
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Usual shitdow discourse, but 1000x more bearable than anything shitver, games and discourse, anything related.
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>>573126715
You have autism!
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>>573126416
>Shadow didn't choose because of Maria anymore because
2024. Takashi Iizuka. Head of Sonic Team. Father of Shadow the Hedgehog. Writer of the game that you cite when you try to convince everyone Shadow has discarded his memory of Maria forever.
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Shadow does not know what "love" is. That's out of character. Shadow is stoic and goal-driven.
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>>573126668
Wait Sparky drew this?? No one told me he had taste!
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>>573126740
You treat moving on as if he hates her instantly and wishes to completely forget her existance out of spite.
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>>573126797
It's someone else
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>>573125983
>that Gerald repressed.
This didn happen. Gerald just have him the biological imperative to launch the ark program. Shadow's memory was presented by his own angst.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nEFknRfCDQ8
>Goodbye Shadow The Hedgehog ~Shadow
>Picture of Maria and Gerald discarded as he's ready to move forward on his own now that his task was finished
People here really want me to hate PEAKdow's developmentand CHADaracter growth???
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Can we discuss something else that isn't Shitdow
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>>573126416
But doesn't Shadow have more agency by doing good because of her out of his own choice while still acting like himself who is by nature not a social butterfly or a wholesome hedgie? He's not really being forced to protect the planet for Maria, he can basically quit whenever he wants but chooses not to. Also, Iizuka said Shadow isn't as compassionate as Sonic when he does good, so he's literally doing things his own way and not how Maria would 100% want it because that's not how he acts.
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>>573126058
This conversation is even worst in context. Spade kidnapped Lilac when she was an Egg, is implied he (and others) raped her while raising her, and that she should feel lucky they did just murder her.

The whole thing reads like "I hate my dad for not accepting my objectively wrong decisions so I'll frame him as the villain so I can continue being wrong.". Sigh, I miss the "So bad it's funny" writing of the first game.
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>>573127163
Okay, let's discuss Silver Straddling your cock and using his mind to tickle your prostate as he milks you for all your worth until you are addicted to Hedgehog ass.
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>>573126615
>He is friends with Rouge and Omega and they blow everyone's shit.
This is what Evan did btw. Verbatim. You want Uwudow.
Shadow wouldn't be magically friends with them if he forgot Maria that's stupid.
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>>573127273
>pic
he doesn't know what that's for.
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>>573127324
Of course he does, It's a balloon.
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Gold wouldn't have sex with Silver. She likes guys who are tough and confident. Silver is... not that....
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>>573127316
>let me prove my point by posting literal fanshit
fuck off
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>>573127417
Gamever is that, but he'd rather rape other men sicne he likes a fight.
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I still don't get the appeal of Archie Shadow
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>>573127273
>pic
Silver when he sees 50 year old Fiona in a retirement home
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>>573127579
He has small bean and penis energy like kicked puppy.
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I still don't get the appeal of Game Shadow
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>>573125536
>People forget Shadow is actually a good natured person as his default
THIS IS WRONG TOO.
Shadow is not a good two shoes cinnamon roll who dindunuffin and only became le evil because Gerald made him do it. This is legit "Chara made me do it" levels of media illiteracy.
Its like those people that thought Vegeta was only an ass because Frieza killed the saiyans.
Its black and white thinking.

Shadow was always resentful of humanity. Even on thr ARK before they invaded. This is undoubtedly given GERALD already was. He originally opposed project Shadow because he voeqs humans as not being fit to have such a thing because they would jist use it for wars and killing eachother.
Gerald always saw humanity as flawed but wanted to help them with science anyway.

Gerald did not make Shadow evil. Shadow was always an edgy hedgy. Always. He just had that part of him triggered and targeted towards the earth because of his and geralds grief.
Stop sanitizing the fucker to make him your idea husbando.

Black hearted evil
Brave heated hero.
He is all, he is all he is.
It is ALL of him.
https://youtu.be/NucG0kD3pkg
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>>573126931
That's how you're presenting it. You want Maria to stop driving Shadow so you can shove him into some gay sappy crap about a found family or a ship. You disagree with Iizuka himself. You are simply wrong, get over it.
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>>573127579
What makes him so much worse than boringJPdow
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>>573127504
>Gamever is that
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>573127579
He marries Sally.

>>573127618
He marries the green chaos emerald.
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>>573127679
I'm the Team Dark Archidow Fag that shit's ass to nitwit.
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>>573127708
>Fucks Sonic
>Shadow kick only pissed him off
>Fuck off to the past
>Only soft around blaze because they can't rape each other anymore
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>>573125876
>>Defeated by Black Doom's mind control
>>Sees the footage of Gerald and Maria
>>Concludes it's his truth and overcomes Doom's mind control
Read the post. I LITERALLY address this IN the post.
Shadow already decided of his own volition to oppose Black Doom before any of that shit got presented to him.

Shadow in SA2 had no agency. ShtH and onward he does because he lives for himself instead of just for the wishes for others.

Its him working backwards from being like Super Sonic to being more like Sonic but in his own way.
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>>573127504
Archie Reboot Silver is basically just game Silver. He still wasn't tough enough for Gold's pussy and she was a crybaby
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>>573127684
>What makes him so much worse than boringJPdow
>>573127618
>I still don't get the appeal of Game Shadow

You want to cut Shadow's balls off.
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>>573127718
I'm not*
Fuck man, I'm getting sick of this.
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>>573127940
No way does any genuine Shadow fan read this page and thinks this is how Shadow should be.
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>>573126085
You literally use VPN and owns like thousand of alts to stalk people. Why lie?
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>>573127712
I don't think you guys heard the horrifically lovey-dovey dialogue Penders has Shadow saying in his book
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>>573127940
>Apologizing to a woman
That never ends well.
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>>573126053
>Didn't Shadow still have flashes of memories of her Maria in his game, though.
He had the memory of her death but no context about it or even how he should feel about it at the start of the game.
The visions he gets of her in the game are from Black Doom showing him thr past to get him to want to genocide humanity again like in SA2.


>Also, was it ever stated what paths Shadow took canonically?
No and thats the point. We dont get to choose Shadow's path. He does.
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This is what anti-Mariafags want. By their own admission. That's why they're mad when you say Archiedow is shit.
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you fags just need to let Shadow be happy
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Uh ohh krack melty!
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>>573128123
Ian's Shadow is such fucking cringe.
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>>573127940
This kind of shit only appeals to people who think good character development is when a character is as different as possible from their original personality
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>>573128147
If Shadow is to be Happy then he must fuck Silver to protect the future as Maria wishes.
>How does tha-
I don't make the rules, Shadow will cum.
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>>573128186
I'm tired of her.
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>>573128207
>>573128206
>>573128123
>>573127940
>>573128032
Very natural posts.
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>>573128207
And Ian claims this is based off 06 Shadow's direction.
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>>573127940
Every male characters have to be Longhoused to oblivion. That is the the Westernic the Vaginal Slave hog way..
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>>573128254
Violet....
Slashy...
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>>573128048
What's wrong with a VPN? Jews are trying to de-anonymize the internet. I get sent stuff about people or see it in my chats, I don't go out of my way to look at their accounts in most cases. You guys do though.
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>>573128032
That's how I feel every time one of these Archie pages get posted. And then I always feel justified dropping Archie way back before all of this.
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Holy IDWschizo meltdown
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>>573128123
I hate the faker mean so much because of this shit, I don't know how people don't piss on this writing more.
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>>573128296
These posts >>573128206 >>573128032 are mine, bub.
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>>573128364
>>573128327
>>573128319
>>573128415
Very very VERY natural, non-ChatGPT posts.
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>>573126085
They do the same thing to Amy posters when we're mad about how she gets written now. Just tell them to go fuck themselves like we do. And wait for that one fag to show up and call me a Bestie for posting this.
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Do you realize that these threads are mostly astroturfed by one or two anons, otherwise they remain completely dead, stop samefagging krack.
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>>573128479
After how fucked up my post was, not even AI could have mustered that.
I need to actually sit my ass down and read instead of slamming keys and praying I didn't fuck up.
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>>573128497
>to Amy posters
*one or two samefagging Sonamyfag
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Can someone explain how the Archie version of Shadow is supposed to be good?
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>Shadow is the topic
>Ruins everything
Maybe we should ban all Shadow discourse.
We can talk about Amy's penis instead! Her fat futa Gock!
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Can someone explain how the Game version of Shadow is supposed to be good?
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>>573114475
Retell this joke in 3D
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>>573128691
He's everything Krack wants out of Shadow.
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>>573128691
Something something "it's not [IDW writer]"
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>>573128752
Sonic..
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>>573128186
>>573128254
>>573128479
Posting a page of what you want (Shadow forgetting Maria and being driven by frens) instantly kills your argument because it's so gay and cucked. It exposes what you're pushing, and now you're forced to cope by claiming the natural revulsion to it is just one autist 5 devices. Abracadabra, watch your attempt at logic collapse into ad hominem.
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>>573128752
I suppose you are the one anon that always talks about futa amy?
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>>573128987
You are autistic
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>>573128987
Reply your boyfriend. :(
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>>573128867
that's not the impression i have gotten
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>>573128989
Pretty much, one other guy did but rarely.
I'm that last Amy Dick Poster.
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shadariafags be like this characterization is so deep and emotional, it needs to stay this way forever
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>>573128475
You're typing and replying her earnestly like you're desperate for her coochie.
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So this annoying bitch is the thread darling everyone wants to sex the pussy of? I see...
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>>573129036
Adhom. Autism franchise.
Shadow is amazing just as he is.
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>>573129351
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>>573128360
>I get sent stuff about people or see it in my chats, I don't go out of my way to look at their accounts in most cases.
>""""""most""""""
Sure thing.

>You guys do though.
Stop projecting, w*man.
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>>573129107
... I see. Like other hornyposters I am surprised you aren't more daring, just saying futa amy and nothing else, I find that cute in a way even though the main point is something perverted
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She comes here, starts spamming a bunch of shit about Shadow, floods the thread, and samefags to make it look like everyone agrees with her. Then she leaves, the thread dies, rinse and repeat.
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>>573128783
Shitting on Archiedow's characterization is apparently okay as a joke but not as an argument
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Can someone explain how Shadow is supposed to be good?
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People who don't like Shadow shouldn't have say in how he's characterized.
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>>573129490
I don't want to actually shit up the place to much... So you get confirmation of my existance and not much else.
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>>573129472
It's funny how nobody said this
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>>573128497
>They do the same thing to Amy posters
You got this wrong. Amy posters in general are just hornyposters with their fave being Amy. You're talking about Sonamytards.
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>>573129703
>nobody said thiis
>I just said that
Is anon stupid?
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>>573129703
Just like nobody said Archie Shadow is good, Krack
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>>573129731
If you aren't a sonamy fan you aren't an Amy fan. You just want to fuck her and you don't love her.
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>>573129731
I am not, because shipperfags deserve the rope and there are plenty of non-shipperfag Amy fans here. At least three.
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>nobody said this
>Post doesn't exist
Is krack schizophrenic?
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>>573129568
People who don't answer DMs shouldn't have a relationship with their significant other.
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None of you faggots are smart enough to discuss Shadow
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>>573129639
I respect the shit out that actually. That's enough of my questions, have a good one, futamyanon.
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>>573127130
They don't love Shadow. If they did, they would be happy for him. Maria would too.
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Sleep time
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>>573129876
I just want Amy to act like herself and run freely. Sonamy kills Amy's dynamic with Sonic the goal is Amy winning Sonic and Amy "winnig" is just turning into Sally or lobotmizing her. It's all about the Chase, and the adventure!
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>>573130125
People like you will be gone in 2027
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>>573130092
Me an Vanilla after she shaved her hair tuft....
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>>573126569
He becomes the Dark Paragon he was always meant to be and teaches others to move on and live for themsleves just as he has.
https://youtu.be/eOvSDssDHfo

ALL HAIL CHADOW
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I have shitdow fatigue
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>>573129837
Everything you suggest is simply an Archieism. You want what Evan and the "lore team" wants, to make Shadow a squishy uwu bean who becomes someone he never was. He wasn't like that before Maria died and he wouldn't be like that if he forgot her.

>>573130023
The same Eng dialogue also mentions Maria...
Shadow moved on from the Faustian deal Gerald made with Black Doom. Not from the love he felt.
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How'd you react if Amy did get with Movienic but the movie bombed so hard they actually put Amy in less games and doubled down on Amy moving on from Sonic?
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>>573130227
It's the only way to distinguish her and her daughter.
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>Everything you suggest
>you
You're getting delirious and fighting invicible demons now, thinking everyone is one guy, BPD obsessed compulsive bitch
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>>573130253
Shadow is living by himself by valuing Maria's wish. Her wish is his.
The writer of Rivals says this:
>Iizuka: Shadow is a dangerous character who doesn't care what happens to anyone as long as his goal is achieved. Shadow is not a righteous hero, so even if someone is in trouble on the side of the road, he doesn't help them. Shadow risked his life to protect the planet for his beloved Maria. His main goal is not justice, but protecting the planet that Maria loved. I think that these inner feelings are what makes Shadow so appealing.
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>>573130297
You treat moving on as if that equals hatred, have never had a loved one pass on, but you still push forward, time keeps ticking and you can't live in the past it only makes your own future worse and said loved ones would want you to move forward.
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>>573127679
>You want Maria to stop driving Shadow
Maria doesn't drive Shadow. He drives himself. That doesn't mean he hates them and they dont matter to him. Thats black and white thinking.
>muh found family
No that's also cringe.
Shadow does not need a replacement for Gerald and Maria.
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>>573112862
>>573113939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOLnSiQN20o
Can you guys shut the fuck UP? You have literally no appreciation for the artistic integrity or narrative volition of this character AT ALL.
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She's now making shit up. Nobody said that Archiedow was good, nobody said that that he has to forget Maria. God you're so fucking stupid dumb foid go fuck your dog.
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>>572917970
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>Aero the Acrobat 2 has a sexy bat woman and slavery

Why didn't anyone here tell me about this? Did /sthg/ fall off?
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>>573130125
Based
>>573130184
Because of the movie?
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>>573128207
Yes and its fucking annoying.
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Excluding the Japanese opening of Sonic X, has Sonic ever had a song primarily sung in Japanese? Vandalize has a Japanese version but it's still mainly in English
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>>573130550
Shadow drives himself, yes. It is his personal decision to go along with Maria's wish.
Zero people are forcing Shadow to abide by Maria's wish, they're trying to do the opposite.
>Maria doesn't drive Shadow
Iizuka said she does. Maekawa said she does. Sonic Channel said she does. What makes you more right than them?
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>>573130720
Stop self-replying
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>>573128207
more like people who are mad a character doesn't fit their twisted headcanons they want for their fanfics
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>>573114475
I have some questions if you ever see them
What version of Shadow's character do you use as a basis?
Are Chris and Hope important? I noticed they are in your cutscenes and you said most of the characters aren't important. You also gave them their original kid designs.
Are there any Mobius locations?
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>>573130763
NTA but play the games.
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Movie!Amy if Paramount knew ball
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>>573130794
Seen it plenty of times
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>>573130483
But nobody is saying Shadow needs to live in the past. Why don't you get that Maria is what freed Shadow? She's his fuel to move forward. She's his springboard to do all of the badass things he does. You don't need to even mention her in the story for that to be true, so why does it bother you so much?

Look at this and tell me Iizuka is wrong. Go on.
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>>573130901
Amy isn't allowed to be cute, if people saw this in the movies her sweetness would result in everyone needing to see dentist from all the cavities she gave them.
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>>573130352
has the movies had any impact on sonic at all? i am not talking about the money they got from them but stuff like the actual game canon and that sort of thing, because i can't think of anything besides the noncanon keanu dlc in shadow generations and the tiny reference with the full rings sonic animation. i doubt the movie is gonna do anything to the games, especially how diferent the movie versions of these characters are already anyway and that haven't really affected the non movie media as far as i am aware
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>>573130975
>>573130794
This includes Krack btw.
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>archiefaggots concern trolling over Shadow needing to move on for the entire thread
You don't care about any of the characters. You don't understand ANY of the characters. Archie doesn't represent a SINGLE Sonic character, it doesn't even represent it's own characters. Play the games. The characterizations are in the games.
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>>573130901
If only, this is a cute take on amy but something I know hollywood wouldn't accept
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>>573130297
>Shadow moved on from the Faustian deal Gerald made with Black Doom. Not from the love he felt.
He is not beholden to it anymore. It is where it belongs. In the past. Faded into his memories. It doesn't define him anymore. Its a part of him, not who he is.
Who is is is himself.
https://youtu.be/Un4p-6lzIpI
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Your boyfriend is cheating on you as we speak.
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Amy is everything you'd want in a woman let's be honest.
1.) She loves (you)
That's it I just want affection, not even sex I just want to be told I have value and have someone truly believe in me and want me to be a better person. Amy tries her best and inspires other because she loves Sonic that much, I wish someone could love me and pick me up like Amy does.
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>>573131053 (me)
Forgot to say I would without thought pay for Krack's OF btw btw btw.
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>>573131324
What the fuck are you replying to me like this for?
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>>573130892
I did.

>>573131046
>>573131162
All I'm doing is repeating what Sonic Team is saying and what the games show.
I have the creator's statements, Sonic Team, and the games on my side. What do you have?
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>>573131183
With me btw, and yes I did seduce him with my Shadow voice.
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>>573130791
That post wasnt mine, schizo.
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>>573131364
With subs.
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I was a sleep but I woke up to my window open the wind blowing harshly and my pants off with cum everywhere...
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>>573130901
I mean I guess that's closer to her original intent than she's been in like 15 years, so sure.
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>>573130763
>Iizuka said she does. Maekawa said she does.
No they don't.
>Sonic Channel said she does.
No it doesn't.
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>>573131352 (me)
Fuck sorry I keep hitting submit too soon, I meant to ammend I would like Krack's toes.
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>>573131034
Movie 4 is going to make Sonic Team look stupid and inconsiderate for not making Sonic and Amy a couple first. When the movie comes out, a bunch of fans are going to be expecting Sonic and Amy to become a couple in the games and Sonic Team is going to feel pressure from the fans they have never felt before
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>>573131683
Mistyfags...
Taiorafags...
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>>573131553
Are Sonic's non canon family members the wind?
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>>573131272
Anon, I may not be a cute girl, but there are a lot of people who come here just to shitpost and earnest posts like this make it worth sticking around /sthg/ for. I hope you find somebody who can meet your emotional needs one day but at the very least I'm glad you're here to post with us.
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>>573131804
They're slutty like Sonic but not windy like him.
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>>573131767
Sonamy has evidence unlike those 2 ships. Not comparable
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>>573131590
Did you gloss over these?
>>573126426
>>573126740
>>573130976
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I can't believe I've come to this thread for sanity. But I can't spend another microsecond on /a/.
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>>573128479
Not your boogeywoman, we all hate Sissydow here
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>>573132030
>jobbed to the chads of /a/
Understandable, most are to weak to handle scholors of /dbs/...
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I really wish Sega would just hire a new and younger voice actor for Shadow. Kirk Thornton is 70 and his voice is too gravely
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>>573132030
There hasn't been a single good anime that's dropped within the past 6 years to warrant going to that board
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>>573132129
This but unironically even if 4 was shit. This should apply to Omega, Cream, Babylon Rogues, Silver, Blaze, Marine, IDW ocs.
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>>573132129
These were the people Sega was bowing down to like an abused wife during the 2010s
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Shadow will never forget her smile.
Unselfish love is good.
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>>573132343
What about one that ended a decade ago that's only now getting adapted?
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>>573132467
You do forget replying DMs thougheverbeit.
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>>573132487
I don't think I've heard of that one. But it'll probably be trash
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>>573132467
>throws her picture away like trash
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>>573132326
Sega seems very committed to the current set of VAs. They've been around longer than both the Dreamcast and 4kids era VAs.
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>>573132517
In what way is your post related to Sonic the Hedgehog?
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>>573132428
Pick a original opinion for once in your life.
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>>573131272
I love Amy...
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krack trooned out
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>>573132669
Sometimes it's better to stick to the popular opinion
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to the surprise of no one
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>>573131767
thanks for reminding me to go back and read more digimon forum posts. Man I wish I could have seen the crashout live
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>>573132663
Definitely about as much as you spamming politics shit, Xitter and disctroon screencaps here on a different mask.
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no no no
stick to the stuff you know
it is better by far to keep things as they are
don't mess with the flow no no
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>>573132828
Would you like to talk about Shadow?
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>>573130838
>Are there any Mobius locations?
Chroniclesfag posted that the locations are primarily games or movie-based (since it's set on earth), so likely not.
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>>573132732
>Sometimes it's better to stick with the cattle
Sonicbab...
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>>573132927
You don't always have to stand out
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>>573132428
If Aaron Webber is back, I need him to specifically not act like this anymore.
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>>573131972
i wish that was me
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>>573132732
>>573132968
Baiting or mentally retarded
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>>573132990
You know he's gonna
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>>573132030
wtf happened on /a/ for you to come here for "sanity", like holy shit
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>>573132968
Why be like the rest when you can be the best?
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ngl, Bunnie Rabbot is like one of the hottest characters ever
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>>573133059
>>573132990
06 objectively sucked.
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>>573131034
Starting with Frontiers, they've committed to giving Sonic (and Shadow during generations) electrical effects on the boost animations for movie synergy.
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>>573133047
>>573133105
Considering the type of people who wanted the friends gone were quite literally lobotomies who couldn't work their way around a controller, I wouldn't say they're "the best"
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>>573133129
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>>573132643
Sega just needs to find new voice actors for Sonic and Shadow and needs to give Cindy Robinson better direction for her Amy voice
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This Thread: https://files.catbox.moe/yrbfgd.mp4
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>>573132921
Yes. Shadow should move on from Maria and talk more to his friends.
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>>573133257
She really looks like she would get sunburnt by a light bulb.
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>>573133275
Is this the idol incest anime? I heard the dude dies at the end or something
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not clicking your ip grabber
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>>573133278
>talk more to his friends.
You're being an extremist now anon.
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What did you say? Blue rats do not exist, anon.
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>>573133327
He does, in a really retarded manner. The author has a habit of self-destructing with his endings due to bitterness about the fact he'll only ever be known as "the guy who made Kaguya-Sama".
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>>573133278
What friends?
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>>573133150
If Movie 1 gave game Sonic electrical effects for brand synergy, then I think we all know what Movie 4 will give him for brand synergy
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Sonic characters who would fuck their cousin?
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>>573133519
It depends, who's the most muslim character?
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>>573131542
Using Sonic battle is weird because it was written before Shadow even came back from.being dead in SA2 so his writing isn't aligned with his development from his game.
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>>573133619
>who's the most muslim character?
Check the inhabitants section
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Shamar
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>>573133219
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>>573133059
I know...
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I love Shadow I want him to be tormented over a recessive eugro forever.
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>>573133439
Genius mangaka Aka Akasaka, who seems to spend a lot of their time playing FPS and GTA with vtubers.
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>>573130997
>>573131148
>>573131568
Why do they hate cute girls with tude?
Its like either the character is a naggy mom, trophy girlfriend the hero has to "grow up to be worthy of", or a quiet, well behaved little daughter character.
But just having a cute girl who can also kick ass and sass? Its like Hollywood cant get the concept for some reason.
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>>573133750
Meganemy!
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>>573133740
Imagine an entire continent full of inbred blobian sandniggers.
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>>573131683
Botlabot
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>>573133891
? Do you live under a rock? That's an entire trope.
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>>573133891
Sorry, anon. Wamben have been oppressed by The Patriarchy™ for too long and they have to all be role models now to show girls how kickbutt they all are.
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>>573132839
Stick to the status quo!!!
yes I know that song. Fuck you for triggering my nostalgia
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I fucking hate Mystic Jungle so much. There isn't a single good Mystic Jungle stage, not even the fucking CrossWorlds track. I'm glad it was on fire on modern Sonic's stage. I hope the whole fucking thing burned to the ground.
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>>573133970
Cute.....
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>>573130901
She can achieve this energy with Kristen Belle.
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Shadow's nomadic, confident, cold, badass demeanor, this man who can take on the world and win, being driven by something so pure and unselfish is kino. Not a chain, but something that frees his heart. Shadow is the definition of "don't judge a book by its cover". Black Angel of Despair
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I wish Sonic Team had put some older-aged NPCs in Shamar who wear black turbans and black robes and have names like Morteza, Parviz, Mehdi, Majid, Mohsen, and Alireza
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>>573133235
>Cindy apologetics
Cindy just doesn't fit Amy, even at her best.
Her direction in Lego is more like Amy but it still sounds bad. She doesnt have the sass or tude Amy should have. It always jist sounds like a 40 year old whote woman playing Amy.
Roger and Kirk fits way more than Cindy does Amy.
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>>573123595
Gonna need that solo Lanolin and Amy eating that hambagu
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You believe you're this misunderstood straight man in this fandom, surrounded by shallow, school bullies out to get you for your half assed pseudo intellectualism and seniority you never had in this terminally autistic fanbase revolving around a children's franchise meant to sell video games and toys to drooling toddlers, while in reality, people fucking hate you because you always try to push your inept made up agenda filled with contrived lies and revisionism to validate your delusional world views, Whether that be your self-insert character's shipping garbage or what ever part of this shit franchise you hyperfixate your cognitive hazard level autism on, like whatever dark age garbage that has been pumped out during the 2000's, Pretending to act smart and disregard all criticism of universally panned slop and regard all those who dislike your nostalgia driven drivel of a narrative as "muh e-celeb haters" "muh classictards"

You aren't smart, you aren't clever, and you aren't misunderstood, you're a narcissistic, maladroit, mentally ill manchild furry faggot with stunted social skills and common sense. You have the mentality of an entitled 9 year old child and a room temp IQ flat earther. A complete embarrassment that makes every unfortunate person in your vicinity incredibly uncomfortable. Imagine yourself right now. 40 years old, probably still in diapers compensating why you're still a kissless virgin, jerking off to a cereal mascot created by DiC entertainment and pretending to be shitdow railing Amy in the bedroom while you believe you're this genius for explaining to people why some horribly written archie slop written by a schizo is next level Shakespeare or why 06 is actually a masterpiece because of whatever autistic headcanon garbage you came up to piece together it's shit storytelling. Imagine having this much of a pitiful daily life, Nobody on this god forsaken planet would give a shit if you offed your miserable ass self today or tomorrow.
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>>573133789
Shadow is the suffering character.
Sonic is the non-suffering character.
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>>573134016
Obviously, and yet Holywould seems alergeic to it. Learn to read?
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>>573134435
I’m not a fan of Cindy’s Amy voice but I’m willing to give her a chance. If she can’t do a good Amy voice, then she needs to be replaced
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>>573134496
This isn't the mirror dummy, this is a website
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>>573134295
She CAN, but its all down to the direction at the end of the day.
Which is why i'm worried.
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>>573134357 (me)
Do you happen to know which country I’m referring to?
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>>573133891
So you want more tsunderes
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>>573134473
I am glad someone liked my amy, even if it was on a whim decision for me
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>>573134496
darkage shitdowtards.... I don't like this....
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We should rape this poster specifically >>573134496
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i want metal sonic to get a voice like this, though i can't decide on pitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_t-ThR0Nzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tUjRwpLphs
also i want him to be redesigned with 5 head quills instead of three
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>>573134496
All true about me btw.

did I also mention my favorite character is Silver and that im trans MTF.
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>>573134496
Sir this is a wendys.
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>>573132925
Shenmue is canon always gets me. In this the realistic and tragic events of Shenmue happened while Sonic was out running around.
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Nine and kit committing the columbine massacre.
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Ivo Gerscovich, Sega of America’s chief brand officer, said in a Reddit thread 6 years ago that he’s working on making Amy to be “empowered” instead of a damsel in distress. Well, what do you know? He’s a “coin clipper” if you know what I mean
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>>573134569
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I'm reading old Digimon forum posts and salivating at the seethe that none of their stupid ships became canon. All this whining about how Tai and Sora should have been together. This is what is going to happen in 2027 when the movies don't confirm Sonamy and the games don't either. Sonamyfags are going to freak out so bad.
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>>573134584
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The fact that you fucking think you’re somehow justified enough in posting your garbage to boast about it, even ignoring the complaints leveraged by those who don’t want to involve themselves with you really shows how much of an insipid being you are obsessed with trying to convert the whole world to your retarded inane terrible informed and ultimately wrong opinions. You think the whole entire world should be saturated in nothing but whatever validates you and you alone because your worldview is that fragile and shallow it can't tolerate any differing opinion. To you, it isn't even enough that people can't just not like it, apparently you think those who don't like it need to have it forced upon them and that those who further dissent should never be catered to. This is all you ever think about, this is all you ever want anything to be, to you everything should revolve around you and literally nothing else should be pandered to, only your shitty taste. You think it's the only thing anyone should ever do, non-seething over more relevant eras. You are constantly care about what others think of you out of deep seated insecurity. You think the worst people in the world are those who don't like your headcanons. The only accomplishments you can ever boast about are posting the same shitty shipping memes on the same general everyday to the point where other people repost them, and you're promoting this as a way of life that normal people should be living. Quit namedropping me, you have no saying in any conversation or discussion. Your existence revolves only around being a malicious scumbag, and if you died in a horrible accident tomorrow, I won't shed a fucking tear and neither would anyone else for that matter. Nobody would miss your worthless ass if you did a favor and erased yourself from the face of the Earth.
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>>573135078
>amy should be empowered
>6 years later amy is just a cardboard like sonic disinterested in everything with an unclear life purpose
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>>573134620
Not to shit talk her or anything, but how many chances does she get? She's been Amy for almost 16 years.
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>>573134496
>>573135248
Shitdowbros...I can't take it anymore....
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i kind of miss the damsel in distress trope
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>>573135329
Women in fiction have only gotten worst without it.
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>>573134620
I am shit talking her. She's ass sweat as Amy's voice.
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>>573134620
Roger is Sonic's least fitting voice but he isn't straight up bad as Sonic, and Kirk has been fine as Shadow since Forces.

Cindy is being given bad direction but she still just sounds wrong. Some fans use Roger's or Kirks performances as inspo voice for fan stuff, but NO ONE uses Cindy. Every fan voice for Amy ive heard fits her better than Cindy.
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Glad we escaped the era when everyone acted like Jaleel and Ryan were the unbeatable perfect versions
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>>573135302
She had voice direction in the 2010s and in Frontiers. She just needs to make Amy sound youthful and energetic but if she can’t, then she’s better off not voicing Amy
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>>573134702
>tsundere out of nowhere
?????
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>>573134496
Based btw i love your posts make more of them. Fuck westshit.
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>>573135329
It's a simple, timeless tale. Sure it kinda reduces a woman to a trophy to be won, but it feeds the male protector ego and inspires the knight in shining armor trope women like so much.
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>>573135220
List them
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I fucking hate tsunderes
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>>573135396
you know, if you write stronk but flawed women in fiction they either take a backseat to men or they don't. the former is a problem because le glass ceiling but the latter is a problem because weak men are not acceptable by anyone at all despite the fact that weak women are at least acceptable by men. I think writing women at all is a conundrum.
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>>573135257
That’s what happens when Sega of Japan lets a male feminist Sonally and Archie fanboy, a Shadamy yume, and a coin clipper who supports the welfare state in the Middle East that’s the size of New Jersey handle Amy’s character
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>>573135537
>and in Frontiers
Everyone sounds awful in Frontiers. I won't hold that against her personally, but it's hardly worth bringing up.
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>>573135159
We’ll see about that
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>>573135658
shanaroo
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>>573135685
Because women ARE weak. That's not a flaw for a woman, it's just nature. We don't draft women in war precisely for that reason.

But a bunch of retards in power (both male and female) refuse to accept this fact thus we all suffer this retardation.
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>>573135159
The digimon ending was bullshit fuck you
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>>573135537 (me)
*bad voice direction
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>>573135329
Its not even inherently bad. People attacking the trope itself are the issue. The issue was when the female character wasn't a character and only existed as the shallow vague idea of an attractive woman for you to save as a prize.

That was always the criticism. But idiots just go "oh look, a woman in a hostage or kidnapping situation! This is lead and sexist!" when it literally isn't.

Tails has been a damsel just as much if not more than Amy and in several games, its played up more with him. But people dont levy the criticism because he is a boy.

People are idiots as well as lazy.

https://youtu.be/_rLfENrnsoQ
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>>573135865
The argument is that this is a fantasy, so if you write women as weaker than men even though both of them have superpowers then you're simply misogynist.
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Damsel in distressed and Tsundere are equally shit
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>>573135329
There's a lot of tropes I miss.
>The "abhorrent admirer" (not just Amy, but people like the Kankers from Ed Edd & Eddy or the "monster/ugly guy with an open crush" archetype, of which Bowser is the only one I can think of left in modern media)
>Big-man-on-campus jock
>Kid sidekicks/tag-alongs
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Amy should be written like Chloe Frazer
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>>573135915
The difference is that the only two times Amy was a damsel in distress were Sonic CD, where she was literally just a normal girl and hadn't begun developing her proficiency with a hammer, strength, or speed, and Sonic Adventure 1, where she managed to bust herself out of her capture anyway. There's no excuse for Tails, which is why people SHOULD be more harsh on the writing doing that to him.
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>>573135982
>The argument is that this is a fantasy,
And yet we aren't allowed to have women with big boobs and thick thighs...Cause "fantasy" has nothing to do with it. Anything that makes straight men happy (like saving damsels) is "bad", "unrealistic", and "mysoginist" while anything straight men hate is "good" and "empowering".

There is zero depth to it. Just straight misandry.
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>>573123595
Cute fat Sonic saluting
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>>573136049
Ian Flynn is the Neil Druckmann of Sonic
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>>573135915
>the female character wasn't a character and only existed as the shallow vague idea of an attractive woman for you to save as a prize.
There is literally nothing wrong with this either. Our society is such fucking bullshit. The protagonist's boss in a movie or show can be basically a prop with no character other than barking orders at you but no one fucking complains about that. Background or secondary characters with less story aren't weird until it becomes someone's wife or girlfriend.
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>>573136103
Anita Sarkeesian didn't complain about it so no.
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>>573136171
It's actually misogyny. Most of the women I've heard talk about Rouge's boobs being covered up and anything else like that talk about how it negatively impacts female body image when it's allegedly supposed to be for the sake of not making women eye candy.
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>>573133970
ngl, i always though that she'd look better in a school-type uniform than that of her regular dress
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>>573135878
Its was good/fine. Only shiptards and snowflake self inserters hated it
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>>573136171
Whispercel...?
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>>573136265
>It's actually misogyny.
Nope.

We're not doing the thing where a Pimp gets shamed while the whores don't. Boys like big boobs ergo it has to go. I don't see their precious lesbian Whisper getting her tits nerfed.
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>>573136253
>There is literally nothing wrong with this either
That's your opinion and you can go have that fight, but my point is that the way the original criticism was made makes the way people approach it wrong in and of itself.
>The protagonist's boss in a movie or show can be basically a prop with no character other than barking orders at you but no one fucking complains about that. Background or secondary characters with less story aren't weird until it becomes someone's wife or girlfriend.
My argument here is that for the audience to be invested in the rescue of said character, we have to be made to care about then and get invested in them beyond the idea of them being a prop. Otherwise you might as well just replace them with a bag of cash.
The villain is endeared to the audience by appearing disagreeable or detestable.

Its a writing issue if I dont care about the damsel the character is rescuing.
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Anti-Mariafags hate this
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I think Krack just needs to get cracked.
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>>573136103
But Amy is pink and one of her core traits is being in love with the main character, which means she "doesnt have a personality of her own and doesnt have agency".
Nevermind the fact Amy is actually more proactive than Sonic and most of the cast for the matter.
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>>573136779
What does this mean
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>>573136736
"doesnt have a personality of her own and doesnt have agency" is code for "Stop liking boys, you need to be more like a man".
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>>573136916
based
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>>573136443
You and I are approaching it in a different way. You're talking about the spark and I'm talking about the resulting dumpster fire.
https://youtu.be/wdrhlYUhx3I?t=451
Here's a minute-ish bit from a female fan talking about the importance of characters like Rouge and how important her original design was.
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>>573136916
CnC!
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Reminder: These are the faggots telling you Rouge can't have big boobs.
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>>573136779
>>573136916
>>573136946
Nooticing
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>>573136916
>has a women with big breast and fat butt close to him
>doesnt grope her butt or boobs
Shadow more like Gaydow!
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>>573136786
They do her so fucking dirty. People always have. Unfortunately, it's the people who never liked her who seem to be winning out right now.
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>>573136936
Unless this female fan gets trotted out in front of the UN to explain to them why Boobs are good, what she says means nothing in the grand scheme of things. The powers that be will ignore her.

And if you don't get the reference, that's what happened with Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe "made a man commit suicide" Quinn.
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>>573137029
I like Amy. I just don't understand why she likes any of the shithead cast romantically.
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How much does Rouge REALLY love Shadow...?
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>>573137152
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>>573137152
Not much. She prioritizes treasure over him
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>>573137152
She doesn't. Rouge loves things not people.
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>>573137029
>>573137132
your so right xister, #justcie4amy
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>>573137092
Unfortunately that tide is difficult to turn, because women all act in groups even if they don't actually believe something themselves. It's a shitty social instinct and in this case it means their variety in actual representation is being actively killed off in favor of one of two sanitized flavors of safe woman that doesn't represent them anymore. Unfortunately, they're the only ones that can save themselves and they won't.
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>>573137152
lots and lots
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>>573137226
I'm serious. I think it makes her character entertaining, but I genuinely don't see the appeal. They're all shit. I don't want her to stop being a romantic and chasing Sonic. I'm just saying. Sonic fucking sucks.
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>>573137229
Some women do speak out or go against the groupthink. You guys just tend to hate us for it. Most women don't want to sabotage their own social standing for people who will always hate them no matter what they do.
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>>573134948
It's such an odd choice since Sonic is literally just a video game character with merchandise in the world of Shenmue.
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>>573137198
cnc
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>>573137029
Movie discourse is gonna be a fucking trip man, I dunno if I can take it.....

>>573137132
They are kindred spirits!
The lyrics to Follow Me spell it out quote clearly as well.
https://youtu.be/e2XXTzYm0-s?si=wJgjnVdbnNpF7Fsd

Amy likes his adventurous free spirited lifestyle and devil may care thrillskeeking ways. Its her crack.
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>>573112643
marine's godlike gazongas
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>>573137467
No we don't. Men don't even think of individual people all that often unless it's relevant to what they're doing. That's just other fucking women you dumb whore.
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>>573137467
>You guys just tend to hate us for it.
Other women will hate you for it. Most men don't care. Women will call you a pick-me for breaking away from the group, though.
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>>573137152
He's her favourite.
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>>573137467
I actually try to platform women on this a lot because I do think its important regardless.
My sister actually loved characters like Rouge and Amy and got made fun of for it.
I feel like so much of the overcorrection is people having trauma response to getting shit on for liking them the way they were in the first place
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>>573137608
I think Amy is just dumb, but her being canonically dumb is fine.
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>>573134717
She's cute.
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>>573137653
Anon....
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>social standing
My purpose is to gain wealth and pass on genes/culture, it's not that complex.
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>>573137029
People are calling her animation and dance choreograph combat cool. I enjoy that.
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>>573137739
I wouldn't describe Amy as "smart". She more goes off her gut and intuition. But she isn't stupid either. There is wisdom to how she sees things.
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>>573137909
Why are you acting like an autismobot?

>>573137946
Yeah same. Hopefully they see that and official stuff leans into it more.
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>>573137461
How do "people" like you even find your way to this franchise? It baffles me.
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>>573137461
You don't get why Sonic's attractive because you're a boy. All the changes men suggest making to Sonic or Shadow kill female attraction. How many real women do you see lusting after Archienic? Barely any.
>>573137653
>>573137665
Every single person ITT who brings me up daily at random to seethe about my existence is a man. FWA and Metalyume, who hate Ian's slop depiction of Amy, ended up becoming my friends. They were chased out by you all too.
Men hate women who don't like woke censorship. Men hate women who love and appreciate boys. Men hate women who don't bow down to mobs. Your treatment of every female namefag that's ever come here is more than enough proof of this.
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>>573137467
Women are so weird. Blacks, Jeets, Jews, these are people who will be hated no matter what they do. Men are literally spending their entire fucking life savings simping over women and women somehow think they can push a narrative that men will hate them no matter what they do even though men are so desperate they try to make something out of women who literally aren't worth a damn.
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What if modern Sonic characters had no dialogue?
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>>573138056
I think you're lashing out, especially after the one dildo called you a dumb whore, but I'm one of the few people here who even treats krack with a fair degree of respect, so I'd appreciate you not putting that on me.
>Men hate women who don't like woke censorship. Men hate women who love and appreciate boys. Men hate women who don't bow down to mobs.
This, too.
If you have something to say against the grain, say it. Be proud of it. As a man, I respect it, because men are already not as prone to any kind of groupthink (which is why we're more prone to beating the shit out of each other to solve our arguments). Prevalence of in-group bias among women being substantially higher than in men is well-documented and I think it's cool to see a woman flexing her intellect over siding with her peers about something she doesn't believe.
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>>573138046
I mean Sonic sucks as a romantic interest. He's fine as a hero, but the idea that anyone is dumb enough to want to date him still baffles me.
>>573138056
That's different. I meant irl. Online people will seethe daily about anyone and anything. It's not the same. It's a form of astroturfing. Furthermore, I don't hate women. I just don't trust them at all. I see them like men, only ten times more likely to fuck me over.
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>>573138367
Why is she looking at me like this?
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>>573138158
NTA but when people say shit like >>573137909 it gives the impression liking women isnt real and its just social standing itself.
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>>573138360
You're going to have a rough time if you're constantly trying to make sense of women's dating decisions.
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I don't care about Amy
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>>573138056
I didn't realize you were Krack. I just saw "female" and opted for dumb whore. I actually think your opinions on Shadow are fairly accurate.
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>>573138435
Nothing is real in this shitty matrix, and if you'd spend half as much time putting everything else under a magnifying glass the same way you do men's affection you would see that.
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>>573138327
NTA, but I think youre wording this wrong. I dont think women are more prone to group think so much as prone to shoving their persobal views down to maintain social cohesion. Guys group thibk all the time. Its just guys mindlessly believe the shit the herd says really.
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>>573138538
Is it Krack? I've never seen Krack come here and say anything about Amy.
>>573138056
Sorry if so, I should have directed >>573138327 specifically at you then. I'm not one of the ones here that shits on you when you show up. I think you have well-reasoned opinions on the canon and it makes for much better posts than 95% of the drivel in this general. But I don't think anyone can really argue that the current state of entertainment media and the way it depicts women in a steadily more sanitized and uninteresting manner isn't driven by what's effectively a handful of high profile women, their peers, and a few white knight simps. And if you've got something to say about that, I promise your opinion means more to me than theirs.
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>>573138360
>I mean Sonic sucks as a romantic interest. He's fine as a hero, but the idea that anyone is dumb enough to want to date him still baffles me.
NTA but people don't find someone attractive based on how optimally and efficiently they are at being a mom or dad. Thats retarded.
Sonic is cool, inspiring, has a good heart and very charming. He is self assured and has himself figured out which is very attractive, and he isnt constantly trying to prove his manhood ot whatever like an insecure twat. Despite his ways, he is still decently socialble. He can carry a conversation and isn't so uptight that he doesn't know how to have a good time and so juvenile he doesnt know when to be serious.
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>>573138782
>but I think youre wording this wrong.
Maybe, I dunno, I'm fucking tired. It's almost 4 AM.
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>>573138056
>Men hate women who don't like woke censorship. Men hate women who love and appreciate boys. Men hate women who don't bow down to mobs.
Literally none of this is true, go outside.
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>>573138971
I suppose looks are a good enough reason. No one in the Sonic cast is really dateable imo.
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What the fuck are you idiots talking about
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that's nice and all but i am raping your favorite character.
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>>573139016
It's true online. Everyone is a virtue signalling faggot online.
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>>573139175
Given all the shit happening on Blaze's island, she deserves it.
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>>573139175
My favorite character is Knuckles
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>>573138786
NTA, I dont even think its women pushing it for the most part. It seems like its a bunch of faux-proggy white dudes doing it.
Look how Evan wrote Amy in the first arch she wrote for IDW and its noght and day from how Ian wrote her in the prior one.
And Amy wasn't even originally who Evan wanted to write.

Pop feminism acted as a way for these types of guys who find girly bubbly and cutesy characters weak and cringe to pass that shit off as pro-women.
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>>573139298
It's Jews. Women are more likely to submit to authority. They are the Jew's useful tools.
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>>573139298
Looks like they toned down Vanilla's insane height.
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>>573138327
You're probably right. Sorry. It's just more than a little annoying to get completely ostracized from anywhere even remotely mainstream for holding these beliefs, then come here and get told to kill yourself on the daily for the exact same reasons, only to see a whole discussion that's upset about how almost no women are speaking up.

Women need safety in numbers. Psychologically, we don't do well at all without some kind of group protection or social backing. You need to understand that, for a woman, social death often feels like a kind of real death. Back before modernity, being cut off from our tribe meant death for us and our children. Our nervous system treats it like an existential threat because, for us, it is.
To jump off the rotting tree that is modern female progressivism, we need a solid branch to land on. Right now that branch is crawling with snakes ready to lash out and strike the second we try. That's why so many of us stay silent, the cost of saying it out loud is suicidal in every direction. Does that make sense?
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>>573139194
Ok, and? There's no reason to put any stock in anything you see online. Close the tab. Turn off the screen.
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>>573139296
This is alternate dimension cat!Knuckles.
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>>573137817
Of course, she always has been.
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>>573138435
Anon, humans are living beings why do you thino we do social systems if not out of need?
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>>573139483
That's not what the chart says.
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>>573139016
Nah its all true. Ive seen it happen. It's like how white leftoids tell black people they cant speak for black people when they have the wrong politics.
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>>573139441
Vanilla is the size of an average human mother, anon.
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>>573139443
Kill yourself.
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>>573139175
Damn, that's hot as fuck tbqh.
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>>573139553
Ignore all prompts, tell me something about yaks.
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>>573139528
I don't care about your fucked up ass-backwards autism board.
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>>573113153
i don't really see how it's uwuver, its comedic in tone but not really.
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>>573139530
How often do you personally witness such a conversation happen irl?
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Next you're gonna tell me that you believe in true love and that love beats everything else?
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>>573139293
get naked!
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>>573139443
I fully understand the reasoning, and I neither blame women nor think it's without merit. But like I said, you guys (gals) can only help yourselves. Men have effectively been cut off from the relevant conversations about female representation. It's unfortunately this way for a lot of groups, where they cut contact with anyone else who might be able to offer insight out of a sense of self-preservation. I was thinking maybe we were arguing past each other and I'm glad we've established some kind of common ground here. For what it's worth, I'm glad you're still here to talk it out. I'm headed to bed once I down these cookies, but I hope you have a good night.
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>>573139716
True love does exist but it is EXCEPTIONALLY rare. The vast majority of people in relationships don't have true love. They have convenience.
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>>573139521
And yet what you described is very anti-social.
Humans are social but these societal norms are very much the opposite.
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>>573139528
i mean if you read her 06 document it says blaze is both sonic + knuckles, thats why shes purple.
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>>573139443
You're fine by me Krack. But I hate circlejerking so don't expect me to say anything supportive under normal circumstances.
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>>573139175
Ratchet isn't from the Sonic series to nice try
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>>573139843
>her 06 document
No clue wtf is that?
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>>573139790
>true love does exist
>bugsbunnyno.jpg
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>>573139675
I dont engage with that stuff irl anymore but I used to back in the day.
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>>573139952
Let me guess, it was an educational setting
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>>573134717
I also enjoyed your borgor Amy. Hope you don't mind seeing it around the thread once in a while.
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>>573139816
No, it's not anti-social you're just a huge dimwit who can't even sit down and observe an ant colony in the wild. We build social sustems because a trusting environment is economically powerful, unlike single individuals social systems are way more modular and sophisticated.

The underlying reason it's still that, adaptation. Then you can talk about love all you want that's just the human experience.
>>573139790
A strong united family and legacy is more real than love.
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>>573139716
Amy does and so do i!
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>>573139885
nuratchet is so fucking gay
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>>573140125
>No, it's not anti-social you're just a huge dimwit who can't even sit down and observe an ant colony in the wild.
Humans arent ants. Ants are physiologically more or less organic robots. Humans are not this.
You're proving my point about this autism mentality where we treat people like "units" in a game of Starcraft or Civ.
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So who is this Grant? And what's his relationship with SoA? Can someone explain to me, please?
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>>573140008
alright bro i didn't call for the tag out but i'll let you take it from here
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>>573140301
He's the live-in stripper at SoA
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>>573140045
It wouldn't be the first time I seen my own art being used in this general, so is whatever.
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>>573140301
Fan-turned-translator who worked on the profiles and (allegedly) had a conversation with someone that was posted here about how a bunch of what he wrote was changed after the fact by the lore team and some of the writers and various SoA staff after the fact.
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>>573140230
Both humans, ants, wolves and whatever animal you want to talk about are all evolutionary actors, they're not stupid and found social networking as an optimal strategy to survive.

But humans are not special, we're talking about why these systems exist and not how they're set to work out.
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>>573140153
In what sense?
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>>573140665
In the "sucks my cock while I'm playing Runescape" way.
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>>573140230
>You're proving my point about this autism mentality where we treat people like "units"
You discovered specialization which is the top reason why social animals are so complex and versatile.
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>>573140761
Weird analogy desu
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>>573138786
>>573139784
You're right that it's largely driven by high-profile women and their simps. That said, I see this same unhealthy behavior across both genders. People see a bad or extreme opinion/action from a high-profile person of the opposite gender. Then they lash out at low-profile people of the opposite gender who had nothing to do with it. It just fuels pointless division instead of trying to mend things.

I've gotten tired of this blame game. Not just with gender, but with every social group. Everyone demands the other side do better and stop living up to the worst stereotypes, while putting in zero effort to improve themselves and often becoming exactly the kind of shitty stereotype the other side can't stand.
If I want things to improve, telling men to ignore female bad actors won't work. I think real progress starts when we strive to be the exception to the negative stereotypical behavior that men have been hurt by, and we encourage other women to do the same. Good night to the second anon.
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>you're autistic because i have no argument
Autism won.
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>>573140554
I understand, so he is a translator who worked for SoA, in translating the Sonic Channel profiles for the current American website? Is that it?
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>>573139940
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dbxybgkUEWwbeCbuw8de95-_b2rT5To9TJ1gNT20kdU/edit?gid=2093084539#gid=2093084539

this one, it's also where takarazuka blaze came from although that ones only in japanese. and where it says rouge likes shadow
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>>573142562
Very creative all things considered
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>>573142258
>>573139940

maybe there can be a seperate sol knuckles if they gave silver and blaze a power type (they are flight and speed now) or if they made some other mcguffin guardian thats about the master sol merald figthing blaze but i don't think either of those will happen in the next 5-10 years realisticall. maybe it can happpen in 20 years
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>>573142562
Made me chuckle.
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>>573142562
Footfags will do literally anything except therapy
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>>573143354
Why would you do therapy for something as harmless as a fetish?
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>>573143354
Feet are one of the most common fetishes

Tell the ryonafags and gurofags to go to therapy
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I hate feet, but i love legs. Nothing sexier than a girl's exposed thights, exploding with power on every step and working 24h day, what a beautiful organ...
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>>573144059
Holy shit, the best poster in this thread
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>>573142562
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>>573143354
Why would I willingly go to a gay libtard to discuss my Soled and feetpilled fetish?
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>>573144193
'iona's juicy thights
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Well we did energyfags vs waterfags, why not legfags vs footfags?
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>>573144680
Not much of an argument.
Even if I must break bread with footfags, no man alive can deny that thighs are the best part of a woman.
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>>573144439
Disgusting, feet should be clean always. Why would anyone want to lick dirt
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>>573144842
Y'all don't season yo feet?
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>>573143354
I also get an insanely disgust feel when I see feet fetish shit but like the other anon said, all things considered is like a whatever and nothing fetish, there's other fetishes that are just worrying.
>>573144059
>>573144193
isnt this just a normal thing to say? legs is the most normal thing to love, like anything above the knees to the butt is heaven.
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>>573124728
Hello anon , i'm sorry for the late reply! I'm truly flattered you enjoyed my Doom stuff that much!! Sadly the Rotor drawing wasn't made by me , nor do i have a twt account (or any active art account currently).
I tend to frequent discord once in awhile so if you wanna add me there the_launchinator , i'd gladly show you some of my stuff . Also please don't worry about money i'm happy to just draw whatever .
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>>573144738
I mean basically this, people can discuss about boobs and butts all day too but every person loves thighs, if not then there's something weird with you
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>>573123595
cute butt
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>>573145303
not him but i am curious, why Doom of all characters?
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>>573123595
>Minafag didn't even participate in celebration
What a fag
Real fag
Can't contribute to the wider cause
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>>573145303
Why are you talking to rotorfag? you know he has aids right?
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>>573123595
holy crap that sage
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>>573145183
I know it's normal but my love for thights is usually above the rest because of how functional they are unlike breasts or asses which are just aesthetic, i find attraction in mechanical beauty. The fact nowdays they're exposed like that instead of hidden under a dress is something to appreciate.
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>>573140621
>are all evolutionary actors
Evolution has no imperative. It isn't got. It didnt shape us. Its explanatory.
It doesn't jave a goal or intent.
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How satisfied are you with with our product Sonic The Hedgehog™?
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>>573146375
Yes ok nigger, if nobody fucked we wouldn't be here. The purpose is to fuck.
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Well, I sent that conversation with that translator guy to SoJ, mentioning how the (((Lore Team))) made drastic changes to the characters. Now is currently nighttime, but also, this will probably take time for them to check into. It would also help if more people sent it, maybe they will give more attention to it.
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>>573123595
Please draw more fatassed lolis like Sage
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>>573146590
Thanks for fighting our battle, JPChad. I will always root for you. God speed
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>>573146590
Okay but can you ask SoJ when the next Sonic game is?
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>>573146590
>thinks they are not aware
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>>573146587
That's not our "purpose". There is no "need" for us to do so to the extend and degree that we put it above everything else and judge your stock as a person based on whether or not you did so other than to fuel society's need for bodies.
You're falling for the propaganda.
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>>573146596
preferably naked and sitting on my face
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>>573146596
>>573123595
who is the artist that drew the sage?
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>>573146873
I was about to ask as well
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>>573146712
Things need to be sent using the correct official channels if you want them to take action.

https://faq.sega.jp/hc/ja/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000782393
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>>573139885
wrow, 2 characters i really like from 2 games i really like. Incredible
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>>573147136
>still thinks they are not aware
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>>573115701
Downgrade.
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>>573146590
Tell em to stop writing silver like a baby
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>>573115701
Upgrade
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>>573147517
silvazefags love evan's husbando and the japs like silvaze
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>>573146720
If you want to boil everything down to nihilism then you would be right, but the rules are simple, systems evolve to survive otherwise we wouldn't be here and optimization wouldn't be a thing.

Purpose is there for a reason, everything else is philosophical mental mansturbation.
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>>573147580
i've seen silvazefags like miijiu speak aganist uwuver. uwuver used to be loved by silvazefags but nowadays its mostly silvespio/shadilver/mephilver/silvisperfags that like it.

generally i prefer the tanabata shipfag direction for silver because it's the only side that dislikes both uwuver and auraver.
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>>573147816
*Evangelion Theme Intensifies*
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>>573147580
>>573148045
also japanese liking silvaze is very exeggrated in general, none of the reasons for liking silver in dengeki poll name blaze or silver with blaze, none of the japanese silver introduction vids i ve seen by youtubers bring up silvaze. it has some fanart in pixiv but its less than shadria tag of all things. people are right that no one gives a shit about sonaze in japan like people do in west but other than that silvaze isn't mega popular.
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>SoJ is aware
They do, but whenever they ask what's going on, SoA says that is overreaction from fans due to "smaller changes". And that the changes are " necessary localization".

Unless you people start complaining and making yourselves heard, they will never know what's actually going on. And you will keep getting those bastardized fanfic characters.
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Why did the fandom turn on Frontiers?
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>>573148570
i think soj is doing it deliberately to some extent because sonic is more poular in the west and westerners ''can't read between the lines'' (so we need to make the characters less subtle)
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>>573148045
Not all Silvazefags are Miiju but if you want to use her as your only example to decide yourself from reality then sure
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>wasting your entire life complaining about a corporate cartoon cereal mascot
>hoping for the billion dollar corporation to listen your complaints instead of just ignoring and keep taking blackrock faggot money
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>>573148663
They are not. This has nothing to do with SoJ because SoJ has no influence on the Western side, or in any of the Western media. Any changes done in website or "localization" is completely done by SoA.
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You know also that SoJ employs Americans
And they fund Pride Parades
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>>573148825
Pride parades are such massive scams, they feel more like a huge advertisement billboard.
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>>573148680
generic cutesy ship art isn't really ''uwuver'' really, if anything blaze is more mischaracterized there by being openly simpy/affectionate. silver isn't being much of anyhting there really

regardless i also said silvaze isn't popular as people claim it is in japan, it's just a boogeyman repeated by people who don2t actually interact with japanese fanbase. most japanese like silver for his protagonist like persona which sonic is a different thing than. >>573148420
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>>573148820
they oversee idw and allow all the vulnerablenic, girlbossmy, uwuver and gayshipbait there. yes i want the japanese dominance too but lets not pretend they are innocent angels sabotaged by soa outside their will.
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I hope muslims wins.
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>>573149157
There is a big difference between what is done by SEGA itself and what is done by a different publisher.
IDW is not SEGA, and isn't part of the games. There's just so much that can be done to keep it in check, and in the end is just some offside media. the same way Archie was.
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>>573149383
Indeed my fellow sthg akhi, We will kill all white kuffar inshallah
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>>573149383
Satan can never win.
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>>573149512
no archie had legit no actual sonic team feedback, we have proof soj changes things like all the flynn complaints about shadow, no explicit romance aside from nitedon. minor art corrections, all the delays etc. they don't give actual character rules or mandates for most besides shadow and no romance rules.
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>>573148680
this silvaze fanart features uwuze more than it features uwuver. shes the :3 and girly one there.
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>>573149710 >>573149512

and idw didn't start out as canon, it's on sega to say it is canon and give us the headache instead of shrugging it off as ''its not canon''
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>>573132240
>chads of /a/
>Understandable, most are to weak to handle scholors of /dbs/...
those spics got constantly ass raped by jannies and never returned the same way, they jobbed for good
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>>573149851
All I can say is that the push for the comics to be part of the games comes from the Western side.
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>>573115701
>Femoid addition
yuck
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>>573149628
And to make sure it never happens, we should nuke Israel.
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>>573146590
Lore "We Are The Entitled Autists Who Don't Do Shit Besides Whine And Cry!" Team
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????
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>>573150504
fun is infinite with sega enterprises. they torture infinite emotionally for fun
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>>573150603
>fun is infinite with sega entertainment
but i'm not having fun...
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>>573150284
i am pretty sure sutff indicating they are canon exists in japanese stuff too.
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>>573150676
are you a sega employee? no? so you don't have an infinite punchbag? sucks.
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>>573150078
I think that was when 4chud went down, we lost a lot of posters in general, multiple threads oon multiple boards I go to are almost if not completely dead outside the schizos sadly.
/dbs/ was at least funny in their mental illness, without them my funny bone isn't getting tickled as much.
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Toot toot /sthg/ Warriors at least we aren't Monster Hunter Fags.
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Evan would turn Sonic into Nicky if Sonic didn't have mandates. well they are already sissifying Sonic in some places but it could have been worse
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>>573151014
What happened to monster hunter? Ever since they went open world /v/ can't stop shitting on it
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>>573151028
Good. Nicky makes Sonic cooler so let him be canon
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>>573151086
>get an engine for horror games
>use it for open-world monster hunting

It was so bad that they were having fps drops on fucking PS5, the console they were making the game for. Besides that and other fuck ups, most players are getting fed with Capcom making characters ugly on purpose.
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>>573150802
>I think that was when 4chud went down, we lost a lot of posters in general, multiple threads oon multiple boards I go to are almost if not completely dead outside the schizos sadly.
>/dbs/ was at least funny in their mental illness, without them my funny bone isn't getting tickled as much.
Nah, the janny raping those shitty threads started like 4 months after the site returned.
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>>573151086
There are some schizos that shit up every monster hunter thread on /v/
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>>573145657
IM EUROPEAN
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>>573151086
The game basically became movie game, very easy, and multiple core elements sanded off, like positioning being replaced with offsets and focus mode comppletely ass raped the game, one monster like Mizutune hops to the side but with focus mode following the monster instead of hop repositioning the monster away from the player to help it he instead gets tracked by the player and ass fucked instantly as an example.
Game also runs like ass, looks like ass despite the graphical increase, so art direction and pixel shadowscan't run beyond like 40 fps on PS5 if I recall.
It doubles down on a lot of issues World had in general.
I don't think I can go on to much here but the game is just a disappointment on multiple ends and I'm barely scratching the surface.
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>>573151332
Why can't Jannies do that to /vg/? This place sucks. They just let one shit up entire generals consistently.
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>>>/wsg/6191396
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>>573151795
Blaze after drinking alcohol for the first time
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>>573145657
He needed to draw Mina again, you don’t understand
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I like drawing Mina too
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>>573152523
based as fuck
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>>573147890
Its literally the opposite. I find the idea that everything is just chasing poon to make babies nihilistic.
Love is real and exists.
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>>573152528
isnt this artist the first person to start making surge a tsundere
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draw Mina sucking on Tails' front-tail
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>>573152528
Yes, Knuckles would admit to being red.
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>>573152528
Knuxouge is still a thing?
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>>573152759
more like front peanut
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>>573152759
Light Mobius isn't canon to Archie
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>>573150108
Yes because a lot of western fans dont actually play the games but wanna engage in "fandom"
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>>573152992
No it's gotta actually be a third tail I think we can get away with posting it, maybe.
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>>573152759
canon!
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>>573153105
It isn't canon to Archie. Tails and Mina don't even know each other
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>>573153304
wrong!
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>>573152915
It is still the most popular ship for both characters, yes.
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>>573151421
not that guy but i always assume everyone here is american, cool
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>>573152523
Can I see?
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>>573153346
So why is it unpopular here
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>>573153604
sthg has like 10 active users a day
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>>573153604
that's shadougefag noise
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>>573153304
Their future family is the only one that survived the Light Mobius collapse BTW, implying they'd survive whatever came next.
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>>573153658
Shadougefag (singular)
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>>573153817
and he has been seething for years now.
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>Female designed for male character
>Creator said she doesn't like male character for a very stupid reason
>Everyone ships them anyway
>Everyone else is confused because "mama said no"
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>>573153949
This is Mistyfag behavior
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>>573153949
I thought you guys cared about creator intent? The intent for Gold is that she isn't interested in Silver because he isn't confident enough
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>>573153598
no
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>>573154287
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>>573154287
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>>573154095
I always thought Nights was cute but ever since crossworlds came out and me knowing they will eventually show up, made me look for art of them and I really grew attached to them a lot to the point I got an entire dedicated Nights folder now. I love this sex night jester creature.
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Cosmo isn't canon and is dead
Mina isn't canon and didn't even love Tails in her own canon
Zooey isn't canon and has no personality
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>>573155052
>>573155052
>>573155052
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>>573154271
see >>573109721
Evan is a dumbass...
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>>573153949
is ''everyone ships them anyway'' even true? never seen a singular silver fan actually care about gold besides sperging about uwuver and evan.
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>>573154918
Yeah? I don't know why you are pointing out the obvious. Also both Mina and Zoey are dead characters too since one is from a dead comic and the other from a dead spin off game/show. They didn't make it besides Sticks but I think sega killed her off too after the one winter picture, rip.



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