Shiv’s Got Nothin’ On Me Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/688635449342692003>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>573070352
Kill shiv niggers
>>573158137This
Buff Silver
>>573157997this is one of the most homosexual OP images you've ever posted.
>>573157997One of the most heterosexual OP images you’ve ever posted
>>573158137>kill shivgood luck he just solo'd the other 5 of your team mates
Sex with Paradox and Paradox from the future and Paradox from the past at the same time
how do i convince my m1ggers to buy slowing hex against shiv, me having the only slowing hex and him just dispelling it is giving me niggercancer
unironically what do you even build vs shiv
>>573159074silence, slowing hex, anti-heal
>>573159074phantom strike so you can say YER DEAD too as he runs away
>>573101962someone please help meor am i just perma-raped by spirit resilience and spellbreaker as apollo
>>573159587even before the nerf apollo was a win before 30 mins or become irrelevant characterhes even more of one now that his kit was adjustedM1s are always ez mode regardless though lol
>>573159074A single player cannot counter shiv, it takes at least 2 players and they have to not stack their debuffs at the same time.Simply picking shiv should steal 12k+ from the enemy team forcing them to buy counters
>>57315999340 hours into the game and i'm starting to get m1gger fatigue
>>573159587I think the new thing is gun / hybrid apollosplitshot and spellslinger and some other shit idk, I just see it appearing in my games and they stay relevant for longer than pure spirit apollo
>>573160083i really hate newfaggots because you barely have any hours yet still think you can discuss anything about this game just shut the fuck up why do so many gamers have ego now when they just startedyoure just parroting others opinions
>>573160134man i don't wanna build into his gun, his abilities are way cooler>>573160254i'm 25 and my girlfriend is 16
>>573160293oh you're a retarded ironic twitter faggot, makes a lot of sense
>>573157997gay sex with apollo!
>>573159587stop playing dogshit spirit and embrace gun/melee>m-muh hybridno you go pure gun, spirit is dead untill they rework the damage type
>>573160364there's nothing ironic about our relationship
>>573159587For me its Melee charge+Hunters aura+ weighted shots
>>573160391you're not even trying to aim for the head
>>57316039150% healing reduce btw
>>573160391i don't get the point of gunpollo, his gun does no damage.>free stunsjust play seven theni guess it's more of a melee build like gutshot venator? is that how you play him? might as well call it melee apollo then
>>573161245his gun does top 5 damage scaling
Marry Silver
>>573161245The damage is not bad actually its just the range and velocity that sucks. By nature of the way gun scales you have a later peak than his spirit build, you will still lose to a farmed ven at 60m but instead of being good 5m-15m, you are good 15m-25m
>>573161657can you list the top 5 of your version of deadlock
remove shivs ability to life steal and see him instantly become balanced
>>5731618381.rem2.paige3.apollo4.mo&krill5.rem
Chat, ai told me to build refresher lategame on mirage, is it cooking? It do be more scarabs and a third tornado
https://files.catbox.moe/aozvh4.mp4infernus dynamo real life
>>573161882>we get victor 70% healing effectiveness 2.0funniest shit
>>573160391>"m1ggers are so broken!">Low-tier spirit character using an off-meta build can literally get jumped, tank every single ability from an m1, and still barely get tickled while melting them???
>>573162056based brainlet
>>573162056venator is the only balanced m1
>>573162056Seekertard...
>>573162110>>573162130Not an argument.
>>573159074You don't, he's completely overpowered and has no weaknesses. Anti-heal doesn't help against bloodletting, dispel magic barely helps against the debuffs, his ult just removes 30% of your entire teams max HP.
>>573162056They are both m1ggers
>>573161928>get advice from something that has zero actual in-game knowledge and just crams mis-info to make a barely believable answerwhy?
>>573162636So entirety of /dlg/ telling me tankbuster is actually a good item?
>>573162636>get advice from something that has zero actual in-game knowledge and just crams mis-info to make a barely believable answer/dlg/ has never steered me wrong...
>>573162636I told it to use the wiki so its better than 99% of players just with that
>>573162704It told me tankbuster was good at first but then I gave dlgs reasoning and it changed its mind and agreed its bad
>>573162983>I told it to use the wikiyou can literally link it multiple sources and where exactly what to read on the page and it will still give you mis-info
when do we be getting new champs
>>573163106Yea sometimes it tells me to buy infuser for the cdr but thats besides the point, the refresher thing didnt seem all that terrible as a end of the game type of buy. People sleep on using to reset regular abilities they just focus on ults mostly
Any victor bros have tips for laning?It just feels like you get raped by in almost every single lane comboAt this point I'm tempted to just buy egg first item because its that bad
>>573163868>victor brosyou're on the wrong subreddit, r/indianpride is two blocks down
>gun HollidayReported for griefing.>gun DoormanReported for griefing.>gun ParadoxReported for griefing.>gun CalicoReported for griefing.
>>573164204You forgot gun Rem
No hero should have 4 staminaOh you wanted to punish Grey Talon or Ivy? Sorry you can'tGT with stamina mastery may as well be the fucking flash because you aren't ever getting his ass.
>>573163868>Having trouble playing the literal Hold W characterYou do not deserve advice.
>>573163868Buy monster rounds, hit creeps to push the wave and spam heal off cooldown. You kind of do get raped but your heal makes you pretty good at playing defensively and hiding behind your tower, you might be able to kill them if they overextend
>>573164392*hooks him**slowing hexes him**punches his granny skull in*
>>573163868Victor is really weak against spirit burst lanes. Pocket, Mina, Lash are some of his worst match ups. M1ggers as well but it's not as bad compared to spirit nuke, he's just a really easy target with how big he is.Buying things like Suppressor and Spirit Shielding helps a lot. I don't like egg on Victor because his dmg early game isn't that bad, but if you don't feel confident enough to okay aggressively it's fine. Always time your jumpstart with a health Regen minion for massive healing and if you can, make your traded based around the health minion, so you can outheal any possible damage.Buying items like mystic slow, slowing hex etc depending on the match up is good too, Victor right now is one of the most versatile characters with the many different ways you can build him and still be useful
>>573164392Stamina is overpowered in this game because movement is overtuned to an absurd degree.
>>573164242I didn't list Rem or Paige as they're only used for deliberate throwing. These gun Doormans and Hollidays unironically insist their builds are viable however and will keep banging their head on the wall trying to main a dogshit build.
>>573164545>Character literally only scales with spirit>Builds nothing but gun items on them>Their guns aren't even particularly good
so uhh how's bebop? I always kinda memeryholed that he exists and I don't know how actually strong he is, especially since people insist on doing the dogshit bomb build
>>573163868dude you are playing a lategame carry, you are supposed to eat shit in lane
>>573164725Not in Deadlock, all the carries also have great laning. Wraith, Mirage, Haze, Mina, Vyper, Vindicta, they all beat most people in lane.
>>573164445That's basically what I do but I save all my AP for ult max. Is that the wrong choice?>>573164526Do you think gun spike is still the way or nah? I like the 4.8k since you farm so fast with cultist but I might be trolling.>>573164725I fucking wish lol, when you're up against a venator/wraith/warden its so apparent how much better they are. They get to scale AND have a strong lane, what the fuck yoshi.
>>573164894>Victor player complaining about literally anything at all with his broken character for boosted animals
>>573164991I'm not complaining, its just that every other carry should be held to Victor's standardVenator shouldn't have a OP laneMirage shouldn't have a OP laneWraith shouldn't have a OP laneIf every carry had a victor-tier lane they would be so much more balance-able.
>>573165138>>Mirage shouldn't have a OP lane>he doesn't know
>>573164894I don't like getting gun spike as spirit because of how expensive spirit victor is. If you are going spirit it's better to get some greens than gun bc of how expensive he is, but greens will always be there to help you survive and farm more Also maxing ult first isn't the play anymore. Pain battery max first, then ult, aura, jumpstart. Investing in gun doesn't feel worth it to me because his ult t1 gives him insane damage early game (you want to give it one point in lane, then go all in PB)Victor in general requires you to be really aware of the enemy and look at the minimap to guess where they are, so you can farm safely and maybe take down a walker. Getting it down helps you tremendously even with the souls nerf.
>>573165138Venator does not have an OP lane at all, Venator is one of the most balanced characters in the entire game. He has an okay lane because his gun has retarded high velocity, but it actually has pretty mediocre fire rate, and his abilities are all really situational. Compare that to Wraith who can just spam cards and teleport across the map if you threaten her at all, or Mirage who can't die unless you are a retard.
>>573163868Buy regen first then go active reload. Get t2 pain battery and just try to farm batteries
>>573165349Thanks for the advice, I'll give it a go do you have any specific builds or nah?Also your point is good its just hard to play in this current meta because Calico/GT is always on the enemy team and they will just fucking rape you the moment you appear on the mapWithout your ult active you're basically playing a horror game trying to avoid the spirit nuker lmao
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>"First time paradox! UwU">"Sorry I'm new! OwO">"This is just like Rivals!! QwQ"
>constantly causing 3-4 people to rotate to gank me in a sidelane>look at the map when i die>2 guys doing back camps on either side of the jungle>1 guy in base>1 guy rotating to me for some reason>1 guy actually shoving waves/trying to fight in the other lanesits so tiresome.
>>573164717hes a great disruptor, go in and soak aggro so your m1gger can click them for free
Should there be wards? (placeable item that provides vision, usually invisible)
>>573164717He's decent if played gun but you're still just a tanky hookbot who can maybe stat check people sometimesDon't bother with spirit beyond maybe a early mystic burst in lane, you want utility gun items (Hunter aura etc) alongside greens.
>>573165728Theres a build that you can find by searching "needs skill" or "Frontline" (it's by 30:00 egg)I don't know what AP order he has now but it's PB max first then ult, aura and jumpstart. It does requires you to play agro in lane bc of the cold front burst with pain battery (it deals a shit ton of dmg), but you can always adjust a few things here and there. Grit first item is good, spirit barrier, etc. And yeah Calico cucks Victor a lot. Just play by walker and watch out for the minimap. Some lanes you play to lose guardian and that's ok, it's better than feeding the enemy team kills and stacks. Do your boxes and let your lane mate know they should roam to help the other lanes. Just play really safe and don't be afraid to fuck off from the guardian against oppressive cancer
Spirit bros....
Why does warden count as your teams tank character slot? Who the fuck is building tank warden?
>>573166454Why not extra health? Thats my go to for surviving burst and his hp is actually pretty low, its all regen
If Joe chuck didn't exist doorman would have a 60% winrate at almost every elo
>>573166912he has the fourth highest health in the game, a 3.5 scaling shield and a lifesteal ult
>>573166912Metro.
>>573167081more like 40% lol
>>573167027Because it increases the amount of dmg you need to take for pain battery. That extra health isn't going to do anything for you, just get double barrier (reactive + spirit) instead. Extra health is a meme on victor
>>573166912after his gun got graped more people should build him as a frontliner
What elo does green warden stop working?
>abrams gets mystic regeneration first item>he wins lane
Remove all tier 2 items and add more of every other tier.
Close quarters>monster rounds
>>573168298Are people actually fighting him when he has his siphon up in lane? Surely this isn't something that happens.>>573168370>Apollofag thinks he's slickI know what you are
>>573168426>tower melts you when you dive for 3.2 seconds
>>573168431Abrams fags have decided to copy the mokrill method of dash in dash out.
>>573161882radiant regen isn't lifesteal
What elo does dash in, doing your combo then dashing out stop working?
>>573168752shivs build infuser
>>573166343I don't think they should makes traditional invisible wards. They should try to keep it occult and make the wards mandrakes where they scream if you walk past them and it should be loud enough that you hear that shit. For example, you walking towards yellow where the sinners and tri medium jungle creeps spawn, and the person has a mandrake ward on the garage. The sound of the scream should be loud enough to be heard by both blue and yellow lane. They should also be put in their own specific tab just like how the posters we had for the voting period for OGNB.
>>573166343absolutely not
>>573167389It only increases the self dmg by 30, I dont think its as bad as you imply, maybe it is worse but only marginally
>>573168648that works for mokrill cuz scorn does its damage all at once, siphon life don't do that shit
Why is gun Ivy with Healing Tempo allowed to do 50k+ healing a game
>>573169042arch mother should have marble statues and hidden king should have wood/wicker statues in the style of the patrons themselvesHave them send out pulses of their team colors and fire off some talk lines when you're near them
>>573169417duplicated healing from orbs and tether is counted and is the bulk of the healing
>>573166912It's because they are forcing him to play as a dogshit spirit front line by nerfing his gun repeatedly even though his CC is entirely cucked by dispel magic and counterspell, because those items are OP.
>>573169609even if its duplicated that's still 25k to her and 25k to another ally, plus the buff she gives
>>573169609Does lifesteal get duplicated?
i love maining an honest character like Seven
holy fuck i hate billy so much, i'm just gonna permaban him so i don't have to play against this fag ass character ever again
>>573169663most of it is wasted healing, its not like where rem is flying to someone with 25% health and refreshing them to 80% every teamfight>>573169775yes
>>573169349just try double barrier i promise its way better
>>573169823*rising rams you* *you take 8% max health damage*
>>573170303shitass hero, i hope whoever made him gets anally raped.
>>573161962Dynamo really commiting to the bit: he ate 5 cheeseburgers daily for a year to cosplay.
gunshit ruined this game
>>573170659Didn't know shiv and pocket are gun characters
shivshit ruined this game
>>573169827cope ivy downplayer
Ivy's newly reshaped chest...
>>573170303>intentionally builds no greenWhat now?
4chan shit ruined the game
>>573170798Pocket is a gun character>>573170956You now die to a single bashdown>blasted>bashdown
>>573170956>What now?You take 8% max health damage.
Nobody cares about the PvE leak posted last thread? Or was it fake...
>>573170936Inflating Ivy with thousands of gallons of cement and also semen
>>573172165 what is there to care about it's probably going to be a braindead hold button while getting street brawl items/buffs
>it's another unkillable infinite damage enemy shiv matchwhy why is he like thiswhy is there no counter
I legit haven't seen a paradox in like 100 matches
i legit haven't played a match this month without a shiv mvp
>>573172165Its bearish because now hotpoop will be back at making terrible hero kits
>>573172165What are we supposed to be excited about after looking at a tiny snippet of a blurry screenshot? There's nothing to go off of.
There is not enough Shiv hate in this thread.
>>573172625That's revenge from the 2 Stam incident a few months ago. Shivgawds stay on top.
>>573170058Double barrier is 3k, Extra health is 800, the real comparison would be extra health vs grit
>>573172250Sement....
>>573172625I'm gonna be real with you anon, more than half the characters in this game are just as obnoxious as Shiv, he just got giga buffed for no reason so everyone is hating on him even more than usual.
>tfw the Shiv player you know immediately, almost reflexively, said he got nerfed after the patch dropped only to start walking back on it within like the same minute
shiv is the wraith of spirit characters
>>573173337braindead overpowered and boring as fuck? Yeah I agree.
>enemy can take our entire jungle uncontested>if I dare try and take theirs, the entire team collapses on me and murders meHow do I get better at knowing when to invade? This happens too often that the enemy has to be doing something right. There has to be a way to know when I can steal stuff for free
I have uninstalled the game.I am tired of this Shiv meta after only 5 days.
silencer is such an insane item. the fact its in the game at all shows how massively m1gger biased this game is
>>573173337Shiv is a vit character, not a spirit character
>>573170925ivy is very broken, just not cuz of her healing lol
>>573173337super weak? wraith is a B-tier throw pick /dlg/ has assured me of this
>>573173578Dude what's wrong, you don't enjoy dealing with what is basically Victor but with absurd mobility and range, and you can't escape his DoT because it's a bleed applied to you instead of an aura around him?
Why is /dlg/ the only place that adamantly insists m1ggers are broken every patch?
>>573174147Dlg has believed in wraith superiority long before the meme pros did
>>573174335/dlg/ also just says every m1 character is broken 24/7 and screams about how stupid everybody else is for not seeing it earlier and how they're finally vindicated when a patch buffs one
Just played a 70 minute fucking game.
>>573174327Because quite a lot of them are broken. Mina, Wraith, Haze, Drifter, Infernus, the list goes on.All of them deal hybrid damage so you aren't allowed to itemize against them, too.
sell me on your main and maybe i'll try them out
>>573174793brother Mina does not deal hybrid damage
>>573166454Thanks for the build, just ran it and everything went greatCan't believe I didn't consider cold front when it gives you that core early burst you desperately needAlso for all those anons shitting me, go fuck yourself I WILL continue to abuse victor and climb to eternus. Ascendant is smurf aids and I will escape it. Read my winrate and seethe.
>>573173603hello fellow smart personthe fact that it counts as extra spirit defense that ignores diminishing returns as its not technically resilience, is what makes it broken
DEAR VINDICTA OR VINIGGER AS I LIKE TO CALL YOUDO NOT TRY TO FLY WHEN I HAVE LASSOSINCERELY, HOLLIDAY
Good morning sirs have they made gun Graves playable again yet?
>>573175342Hopefully never, Graves is a character that should have never been added.
Titanfall 2 had better movement than deadlock.Most movement tech in this game will be removed for launch btw.
>>573176221Titanfall 2 is a dead game because the only viable weapons were the CAR SMG and the sniper rifle.The movement in both games is bad anyway, and yeah most of the glitches and bugs that people insist are 'mechanics' should be removed.
>>573176494seethe cs2let
>>573174953Hell yeah brother, cold front is so good during lane it makes you able to fight back agaisnt cancerslopNothing wrong with playing victor he is a honest and hardworking character
>>573176494I have to ask, if you think that movement in titanfall 2 and deadlock is bad, what are some games with good movement?
m1 heroes are easily the weakest heroes in the entire game I have no idea what /dlg/ keeps whining about. unlike other heroes, you actually need skill to deal damage with them. you can't just press a button to deal 2000 damage like everyone else. you have to buy the right items and aim to do a fraction of that damage. if anything the m1 play style needs buffs and has always needed them, its been a spirit meta for the entire time this game has been in a closed playtest!
>>573173490basic map awareness: pay attention to minimap any time you're doing something that doesn' require your full attention (wave, camp, sinner). note wave states and visible enemies. draw a line that separates each lane along where the waves are meeting. any camps in your jungle behind the line is relatively safe, and is relatively risky. rotations between lanes take between 10-20s per lane unless they're using boost on zip. turn up headphones and listen for footsteps, each hero has unique footfalls.
>>573177290and is relatively risky* if behind the line in enemy jungle
>>573177196/dlg/ is perma emissary w/ 50min games and 70k haze/infernus/seven power farmers that they're too passive to contest and eventually too underfed to deal with
>>573177196It really just comes down to average gametime, when its short spirit is op, when its long gun is opMm tends to be longer than pro games so which is partly why you have a disconnect in opinions
>>573174880if you know how to air strafe and bhop you can get away with so much bullshit it feels awesomeit also feels really nice to jump someone hit 1 and chunk them with each bullet while you stick to them like glue
How does the skill rating take into account the fact every other game I play I get someone who throws the game intentionally before going AFK in spawn?
what if Mirages model was redesigned and instead of a lamp he's carrying a white baby from his brown gf?we need more stepbf representation and who better than an arab?
>>573177196yeah its so hard to hold left click to do 1k dps infinitely
>>573177870please leave your fetishes outside before stepping into /dlg/
>>573175458t. Silver surfer
I got so tired of shivshit that I reinstalled the finals. That's where I am in life.
>>573174880My main is a glass cannon thats easily countered and punished heavily for mistakes. She's also very team reliant and can only have impact if her team plays around her meaning you have very little agency to solo carry games. That being said the feeling of having a good game with her and getting high snipe stacks is incredible. She's a character with high highs and low lows but I absolutely love playing her.
>>573174880He got gutted and is only useable for cube + splatter ship damage.You're not allowed to gun anymore, you're not allowed to ball anymore, you're not allowed to punch anymore.He's boring but I still play him.
>enemy has fliers, a holliday, a lash>rem buys healing nova, no knockdown>enemy has 4 m1 heroes>rem buys healing nova, no disarming hex>enemy has a high sustain comp>rem buys healing nova, no decayyou know how heroes with no charge abilities can't buy extra charge/rapid recharge? can we do the same with rem/healing nova so these fucks learn what counter actives are
>>573174880I DO NOT MISS*crashes into a wall 0.5 seconds later*
>say something objectively true>/dlg/ scoffs>eceleb starts saying the same thing>/dlg/ popular consenus suddenly changesyou people are as bad if not worse as then the normies you bitch all day about
>>573178989>/dlg/ is one person
>cute sounding female on vc>she's playing rem>mimics his voicelines constantly>it's super cute and super accurate>she fucking sucks at the gameI'm filled with so much hate and love.
>>573174880she steals stuff and doesn't afraid of anything
>>573179051ive met two girls in this gameone was playing paige and called our venator a pedophile for trying to hit on her and calling himself "hentai ugly bastard"the other was giga racist and played drifter
>>573179040I am both Charlie Kirk and /dlg/
>>573179040words have meaning esl-kun look up the definition of each word I used there and you'll see your mistake
>>573176758Counter Strike is for massive faggots.
>>573174880HOOKBOMBPUNCH
>>573179232I accept your concession.
>>573178989>say something objectively true>/dlg/ scoffs>eceleb starts saying the same thing>/dlg/ popular consenus suddenly changesName 23 times that even happened.
>>573178545It's a shame that they nerfed the punch into being useless, it was hilarious and really fun to use.But it made movement trannies upset that they weren't allowed to get out of every situation for free if the Viscous was halfway decent, so they made it worthless.
>>573176853team fortress 2
>>573172165>PvE mode>it's just RoR2 but with a deadlock skin
>>573177812not enough to matter because if you're consistently getting leavers and losing because of it but you specifically are performing well, your individual stats will skew higher.kda + soul count per individual per hero matter more than the win or loss - the more the match maker puts you in games that are higher than your overall metal rank but in-line with your hero skill rank (eg "higher/lower than your average skill ranking" arrows on your hero specific rank page), the more chances you have at rank up on a win
>>573179419it literally has nothing to do with movement retard, they never even changed the fucking knockback at all
>>573174880You can punch yourself around the map and people will get on their knees and suck you if you cube + rescue beam + ball and roll away them out of a gank.>>573178545Everyone's crying about splatter and cube now so those will get nerfed soon and maybe punch and ball will be allowed to be good again. If they buff puddle punch's damage I want them to cut the aoe in half, they made it ridiculously big in the March patch.
moooom i did the thing
>>573179658No, it had everything to do with the movement, since it did enough damage to let you combo people if they got themselves out of position to death.
>>573178989Tankbuster is bad tho, metro is wrong
>>573179948keep telling yourself that little seeker
>>573179820>billy immediately ready to kill stealsplendid
>>573180002I acknowledge your ad hom and accept your concession Next time bring an arguement
>>573179820We love Calico here
>>573179419shitter self report. punch is far from useless, it can be used for movement for yourself OR to save your ally, and can displace enemies making for easy kills. just because you can't spam it out for damage doesn't mean it's still one of the highest skill cap abilities in the game
Shiv is the protagonist of the game btw him and holliday
>>573180512Holliday atleast requires a modicum of skill Crackshotting and movement memeing
>>573180668I didnt mean this in a "they will never get nerfed" or balance sort of way I mean in the game setting they're the protagonists
https://x.com/deadlock_8/status/2074180943510745234?s=46Nice, Valve gonna see this bullshit going on early and they will not bother pushing Deadlock esports
>>573180002Worst t3 spirit item thats not a counter
>>573180218I used to run a melee build on goo.Now if I do it i'm feeding.I used to run a bouncy ball build on goo.Now that functionality is gone.
>>573180785>valve "pushing" esportsRiotbab or blizzdrone? Valve doesnt sponsor orgs
>>573180785I'm going to be for real with you.Nobody needs $20k to play a fucking video game. Money should not be your motivation to play a video game.
>>573180785>20k a month>For eatsports shitFuck offGood riddance
>>573181019based retard
>>573180218Punch is pretty useless since it does no damage now. Movement is nice but that's about it. Viscous is a Splatter spammer and you can save people with cube, but the actually fun parts of the kit (punch and goo ball) have been gutted because it made movement trannies mad.
>>573180785Oh no, bro, some literal who org didn't pay people? That's unprecedented... one of the worst things that's ever happened in esports...Valve is never going to host a major now for this toxic community now...
>There are faggots out there who believe that people playing video games should make as much in a month as construction workers do in a year
>>573181173based schizo
>>573180992They do with cs2 sticker salesNot sure about Dota
>>573181173I believe this.In fact construction workers should make substantially less. Modern construction is lame, boring, cheap, and lacking soul.Why pay those losers more money if their product only gets worse?Meanwhile gamers only get better and better at games, cosplay, and showmanship. Three incredibly defining traits of the 21st century.
Not schizo, just a GRAVES and IVY GAWD
>>573181173Sure, why not?
>>573180992>>valve "pushing" esportscould you please explain to me what the international was?
>>573181173Should have learned a better skill
>>573181102punch is literally just AoE bebop hook, it flings multiple people towards your team
>>573181534such as money laundering to earn 20k playing a 2k tournament
>>573181463>>573181397>>573181358There's a reason you fucking G*mers are persecuted more than anyone else in the world.
>>573181019Yeah you are retarded
>>573181707Editors and a contractor for what
>>573181771russian trannies playing video gamesobviously they deserve $20k
>>573181415A big check for valve, they are the only company that makes money off tournaments, for bliiz/riot is basically a huge marketing stunt that would not exist without subsidy
>there are 30 million construction workers worldwide>there are 36 pro deadlock players worldwide
>>573181642Have you heard of a phrase “work smarter not harder”?
>20k for thishttps://x.com/fpslounge_/status/2036115860247757229
illiterate retard melty
>>573182138Playing video games isn't work
>>573182092>I, a lowly construction worker, nets more than deathy, the highest grossing deadlockoid
>>573182092yeah and what are they building, nothing?those deadlockers work every day building a new meta
>I should be respected because I am a retard that chose to break his back by the age of 25
>>573180047kill stealing is not a thing in DL unless you have glass cannon
>>573182382They dont thobeit, maybe 4 do, but the vast majority are brainlets. And they frequently get mogged by forward thinking seekers in dlg
>>573182603both gamers and constructers have bad backs
>I should be respected because I wear glasses, weigh 90lbs, have a hunchback, and can hit a keyboard quickly>or because I'm slavic
I can smell the silky smooth soft supple hands through my screen
When was the last time you lost a match and still had a lot of fun?
>>573174880You're either god's gift to combat that match or an ult cuck sissy but you're team with suck you off when you get a 3+ man ult. Plus it's super fun to play him when you get magic carpet if you know how to wall bounce you essentially will never touch the ground while shooting them in the air before hitting the enemy with a fat ground slam.
>>573182782Yes, this Russian guy mogs you
>>573183141>guy
>>573183141>Russian>Mogging anybody
>>573183496CopeThey mog CS and Deadlock pro scene
>Cope>They mog [one of the shittiest fps games of all time] and [an alpha] pro scene
>supposed pro players>mokrill isnt pick banTells me all I need to know about those frauds.
RETARD.... RETARD... RETAAAAAAAAAARD... RETA RETA REEEETAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARDDD. RE. RET.. RE... RETARD
>game starts>first time trying paradox guys>vindicta turns on mic>scam caller accentinsufferable playerbase
put a $10 price tag on this game and supposed "top pro russian players" wouldnt even exist
>>573184426poe thread is next door
>>573179662>punch changesif they nerfed the time between casts would that be too damning of a nerf? let him still have the same amount of puddle punches just that they aren't all spammed out as fast so there's breathing room between displacements. maybe could even throw in a "if viscous is hit, reduce time between charges" to preserve its movement potential
you know how pakistani is one of the great powers in tekken? russians being good at f2p competitive valve games is kinda like that. both shitholes where the conviction of the 3rd world players is unable to be matched whatsoever. it is literally life or death for them
>join game>AFK>"really sorry 1 minute">stay AFK entire round, jiggle character or farm to not get kicked>get mass reported>banned for 3 hours>swap accounts>do it againMOBAs are for niggers and valve must learn from their mistake
>>573185118Why are you writing fanfiction about shit that never happened.
>>573185241i farm seethe comments
>>573185118yeah and you're proof of that
How do I build tank warden?
>>573184891I know merely mentioning their country instantly summons nato consensus bots but they have a small subset of unironic talent so imho its better to take them seriously and overestimate them because the consequences for underestimating are too great to risk
I think it's finally time to admit the Street Brool experiment is a complete a utter failure until they radically change how character selection works.
>>573185529I disagree, I think adding draft will be the death of any mode it gets added to
>>573185118Yup. Based.>>573185529No, ranked mode is the failure. Remove the rank system and just let people play.
>>573185724>Remove the rank system and just let people play.Ohhh. Your izzat took a critical blow when you got stuck in low elo and now you're blaming valve for it.
>>573185865i only play street brawl and do not associate with 3rd worlders in "ranked"
>>573185947If you only play street brawl then why is ranked an issue for you?
>Having to lane against Holiday as a slow chud heroI want to kill myself
>>573185118>entire roundWho cares, nigga?
oh hey i'm out of alchemistthat was very fast compared to seeker
>>573186098i want to play the full video game without associating with turbo-jeets who seethe on mic and chat if i play something non-meta
>Yamato if someone put an anvil on her head
>>573186369Its really amazing how simple character design is as a job and its also amazing how badly sweet baby raped the characters in whatever the original version of this game was going to be.
>>573186342>turbo-jeets who seethe on micSo you played rank and got stuck in low elo and youre mad at valve for damaging your izzat. Got it.
>>573186495>YOU MUST HAVE PLAYED THIS GAME'S RANKED MODE TO KNOW MOBAFAGGOTS ARE INSUFFERABLE IN RANKED QUEUE!they're calling it: the most retarded post on /vg/, amazing!
>>573186475The original version was a bastardized version of overwatch and monday night combat. Yamato's current model looks like a holdover from that design and is clearly unfinished.
>>573186330Gz cutie, who do you play
>>573186640You sound upset.
>>573186369shitty coombait
>>573186642>unfinishedno they're turbo-woke tards and always have been even before "woke" was a term, only pivoting when it was clear deadlock would be wokeflop #356 of the 2020 decade if they didn'tvalve still okay'd it, made concept art for it, modeled it, and rigged it up, its not unfinished, its finished but now they're pivoting and making completely new designs
>>573186890
>>573186369>>573186475i got a better question: why are all the women, even the "pretty" ones at best slightly overweight? im not even talking about the propaganda hambeast, i mean even mina purposefully has chin fatthe only one who isn't is celeste but she was added what, sometime this year?
>>573186917Its clearly unfinished. She doesnt even have an idle animation. Compare her movements to how the other characters move and its obvious she was from very early in development.
>>573186342Nobody gives a shit if you play non-meta below Ascendant unless it's actual throwing like melee Geist, people didn't even ask me wtf I was building when I was spamming melee Shiv for months after the Old Gods New Blood update (ACTUAL melee shiv, like no levels in knives until I maxxed everything else and no RR).
>>573187189American game, pls understand
>>573187189In what world is Holliday, Mina, Vindicta etc. overweight?Do you like lil kids, nigga? You like flat little kids you nonce?
>>573187189>This is considered overweight nowHoly virgin
My client updated, 26MB. Did they buff sex with Ivy?
>>573187260When a dude comes up to you and tells you he's mentally ill, you shouldn't waste your energy trying to tell him his delusions are wrong.
>>573187452they removed it sadlyyou must now have sex with seven
watching deadlock :)actually playing deadlock :(
>26mb updatewho got buffed?
>>573187563he aint gonna let you hit anymore kelvin
>>573187409No woman should ever weigh more than 100lbs
>>573187563Mmmh I will have sex with Calico instead.
>>573187563only if we get to tag team kelvin
>>573187660>Kslop has thick women: ERM, SHES JUST THICK, TRANNY!>Western game has thick women: BRO, SHES SO FAT!
>-Shiv: Ability to recast time interval reduced to 10 seconds-Shiv: Slice and Dice afterimage now has half the values of the original dashlooool, 26mb for this?
>>573187660
>>573187342>dont like fat people>american calls you a pedophilemany such cases, sad!>>573187409Not morbidly obese or even obese but yeah her BMI would qualify as overweight.>>573187216i think his point is it should never have been given a green light to even get to concept art let alone 3d modeling: no rational human being looks at purple conehead woman and says "ah yes, THIS looks appealing to play as!
>>573188051>t. has no idea how BMI is calculated>t. doubling down on being a virgin
Milking Rem's shota prostate
>>573188051>>dont like fat people>>american calls you a pedophile>many such cases, sad!I am 183cm 65kg. Do I sound like an American or overweight you basement dwelling fuck. Difference is I've actually seen women in real life that's not my mother in the past few years
>>573188115im sorry i insulted your fat waifu but you will have to accept that she is a bit pudgy, i'll even admit i still would but im not gonna lie and say she's thin
>>573188051>no rational human being looks at purple conehead woman and says "ah yes, THIS looks appealing to play as!Wow, its almost like Valve wants their characters to stand out and experiment with designs and not just use "Sexy AI generated Asian woman" for the 8th millionth time! Remember what I said about her design being clearly unfinished?
>>573186751
>>573188285>we made the character ugly on purposeyes im aware this is a western game made in seattle
>>573188268>>573188416Oh, youre just trolling.
>>573188502No im quite serious. Mina is almost perfect from the vampire bit to her visuals, but the pudge ruins her.
>>573188663Heres another (You)
>>573188325Gun apollo I hope?
>>573188793Support Apollo
>>573188793nopei like playing with his abilities
>Wake up>Want to play deadlock>Remember Shiv is still OP>Don't play deadlock
>>573189280That's fine but it'll stop working around oracle
I don't hate gun as much as /dlg/ but it is really oppressive when like a drifter is blowing up. Like, if a spirit character is doing well you feel like you can get spirit resilience/dispel magic/spellbreaker etc, but nothing stops the gun damage. I'll go suppressor, juggernaut, and plated armor and still get shredded.
does deadlock need a role or class system? doesn't every hero shooter or moba basically have carry support tank whatever and here we're just picking random shit and hoping we get a comp that worksor is it just too early for any sort of meta to have developed and taken roots within the "community"
>>573189685i've found having stamina mastery and some ms item helps a lot on squishy heroesof course metal skin or disarm, whatever on top of that helps too but that alone and say you're playing paige or whatever you're just dead after your first dash since they can just match you
>>573189469i'm kind of content with that
>>573188669Im making this upGun4.8kSlow bulletsEscalating resilience Vit 8kBattle vestMajestic leapSpirit resilience Spirit 8kArcane surgeSurge of power(shield)Superior duration 1 point in flask then max shield
Mina Haaaaaaaaaa
>>573185118That's silly
>celeste rushes gun spikewhatis this normal
>>573190547>m1gger rushes gun spikeWtf.... why is this happening
Thread is derailing. Player counts tumbling.The lock.. it's dead..
what spikes this hard?
I ONLY play broken characters.Overtuned? New mainNerfed? Abadoned
>>573189703I think its very helpful to think of comps in terms of roles but restrictions would suck pretty hardI think maybe declaring a role but no restrictions on hero choice would be best. You would get trolls queuing mina tank but it is what it is, id rather have that then being blocked from trying support vindicta
>>573190547Celeste is basically a gun character
>>573190842good fuck this game, wish it was still in alpha but its far beyond being called that. >NOOO CANT JUST PLAY TEST OUR PLAY TEST THAT WE UPDATE WEEKLY OR DAILY! HERE IS A ""STARTED EDITION"", TOTALLY FREE BUT WITH LESS UPDATES, TOTALLY NOT SUCKING ESPORT DICK!stupid company
>>573191016based, fuck game devs and their retarded decisions
>>573191073Thats a lotta seethe buddyYou can just not play the game
>>573190976ricochet
>>573190842>>573191073sub 50k peak coming this month
>>573191278Until they add non-ranked queue it'll just trend down to 10k 3rd worldrs, 5k of which are russians, like before.
>>573189685Metal skin literally makes you invulnerable.
I knew Kelvin's lane was rough but whew
>>573191847Bogus list, I will take anyone with dynamo/paige
>>573191278You can literally see the biggest patches that turned the most people away when you sort by 6 months on steamdb.>march 6th>May 25th start of urn reworks and changes
>>573191847I refuse to believe Kelvin's lane is that badMust be retards playing him wrong.
Anyone else notice how both the black women in the game are basically the same character?
>>573191278And people think this is going to be "the next big game", meanwhile this game is hardly innovative at all and the gameplay is just moronic at this point. People don't want to spend 35 minutes farming minions and acting as lane janitors, they don't want to be forced into roles, and they don't want to be CC'd as the only way of outplaying.Congrats on your ziplines though
>>573191847>NOO U DONT UNDERSTAND VENATOR LANE IS FAIRthose niggers should kill themselves
>>573192367kelvin players are just dumb.
>>573191847All the healers are undervalued with this when they are some of the most lane dominant due to no antiheal
All the body models for this game are ugly.There's not a single large-chested/hourglass figure woman in the game.They need to learn from marvel rivals and add women with actually desirable bodies and not B-cup embarrassments.
>>573192730Yeah every fucking time I lane with one they never ult, or ult at the worst time with no comms.COMMUNICATE NIGGER THAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO USE ULT AND I SHOULD STAY CLOSE AAA
>>573191847and everybody told me that mcgee had a good lane
>>573190842>he sold
>>573192650EXPLAIN YOURSELF >>573165363NIGGER DOWNPLAYING VENATOR WHEN HE HAS MOST OP LANE IN THE GAME
guys i can't solo fucking carry please buy spirit resilience against their fucking shit and their fucking bebop i'm gonna lose my mind
>>573191847>silver is the closest to the center umm she's a super op lane dominator that's S+++ tier anyway ok
>>573191847>Vindicta spams fly and shreds my lane partners health while they scream about how OP she is>try Vindicta and don't do that much?I swear every Vindicta player is hitting only headshots or something
>>573193218>shitshiv*but, i meansame thingi fucking hate shivniggers
my duo is now playing victor and drifter and asks me to pocket him with ivy becuase hes having fun thanks for reading my blog game is enjoyable again
Wtf am I supposed to do against magic carpet Grey Talon?
>>573192367>>573192730"ummmm the aggregate average data of every lane is WRONG and my feelings are RIGHT. Migrants don't rape women in the UK either!!!!"
>>573193839buy him alcohol, cracker
>>573193839Play Mirage and do vidrelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBC-2y6C8xU
>>573193732is this some kind of /trash/ healslut erp post what
>>573193218>tankbuster>spirit apolloLoss status: deserved
>>573192776Well the metric is literally just damage and souls.
>>573193732ZAMN
>>573193839accept the game is over
Why does GT's trap lasts longer than Venator's?
>>573194031ive been posting here for a long time lil gup
>>573194298Why does it curse and is also unbreakable
>>573192367his grenade cooldown is 30 seconds basehis beam cooldown is 28 seconds basehis bullet velocity is only behind paige with the worseif you are losing lane to kelvin you are dogshit
>>573193732This is next level faggotry
>>573193017>Understood.>Reworking the urn again, my lord.
i looked up my forum posts to see my first post being feedback on grey talon being extremely unfun to play againstnothing changed huh, why isnt flight his ulti
>>573157997HOLY FUCKING MOGGEDMaybe learn to balance your fucking game and you won't have this problem, Icef[r]a[ud]ggot.
>>573195443my only hope is that with the visual updates they also rework his kitvindicta and gay talon are so unfun, flight is aids
>>573195705You shouldn't have flight AND base 4 stamina sorry go fuck yourselfAlso he has curse and a execute ult that gives you spirit for no reason.
>>573181771for youtube content and the lile i guess?>>573181836>get a job as an editor and youre promised a payyes obviously they deserve 20k>russian trannies playing video gamesyoure beyond retarded if this is the level of your reading comprehension>>573181173cant you read? the 20k was for editing. how retarded are you
>>573194589why is it bigger than my apartment
>>573195868also flight counterspell. i think thats what completely ruined everything desu
>>573191847from what rank is this data from? paige has a very good lane
The state of SilverJust had my best performing game buying full utilityStill lost because I'm playing Silver
>>573190547Celeste is hybrid m1gger that also gets free spirit damage, like all of the overpowered m1gger characters.
>>573196585Its dmg/souls, since most the value is in the shield she has weak dmg and also since she's support she's probably giving the t1 and boxes to the carry
its so funny that holliday just can't get kills ever unless you chase her like a retard after she jump-pads away.to be fair i don't think i'd want to have to deal with holiday if she actually dealt spirit damage.keep her dead like this
>>573196482Flight counterspell is truly obnoxious and makes Knockdown even shittier than it already is. Either they reduce the cost, give it more stats, or make it instantly knock someone down if they are that high in the air.
>>573196924>Random unhinged holiday downplaying
>>573193951>aggregate average data is wrongCorrect , Jamie pull up the top Kevin's lane stats
>>573195112>new urnMoved back to mid. No more running it, teleports the two people with the highest farm from each time to the urn location and spawns a Kelvin dome with twice the size. Whoever wins gets the souls and gets teleported to their spawn.
>>573197062holidays damage output is dogshit, even if you build full spirit she exponentially falls off post-lane.I don't think ive ever died to holiday outside of either laning phase, or when i chase her like a dipshit and get lasso'ed into the walker
>knockdown is now a fast projectile like Capacitor, when hit successfully the effect takes place immediately
>>573197231Do you live in opposite land?Serious question
>>573196774The hero is just bad man
>>573196774>Worse winrate than fucking sinclairHoly shit lmao didn't realise it was that badBut yeah she doesn't do anything. Her lane isn't that good all things considered, she doesn't scale, she can't farm eitherYou just have to pray the enemy holds W on you with low HP to feed ult resets.She's not even a good frontliner since her base HP scaling without ult is like, slightly better than only mina/paige at max boons. So its incredibly easy to burst her down before she gets ult.
>>573197260That would help a little bit, maybe, but the main issue is that defensive debuff removal is too powerful currently because debuffs in general are too powerful from most characters, which makes the items that apply debuffs bad unless they can do it constantly. Why do you think Escalating Exposure is so good? You can't keep cleansing it.
>>573197104
>my friend is buying boostdire times bros...
>>573196774>>573198318Silver, for some reason, got nerfed harder than Celeste, Apollo, and even Graves, despite all of them being even more obnoxious and unfun than Silver.
>>573198568call your friend a retard and end the relationship.
>>573198804i dont exactly have an abundance of friends lying around
my theory: mina is the real pocket (since he's trans)pocket is just a random homeless guy
>>573198603i find silver equally obnoxious and unfun to be desu
>>573199110Sometimes its better to have no apples then bad ones
which one of you faggots was the bebop saying "sonions" last game
>>573160013ironically shiv is the hero that excels at fighting multiple opponents, so trying to gang rape him can often turn into a fight stacked in his favour, because of mystic regeneration, dagger stacks and his slice
>>573199684Yeah he's terribly designed since all of his abilities are very easy to use, and he gets insane value out of... landing a fast and lengthy dash on at least one person.
>>573199490speaking from experience?
>>573199684they made bp from rivals a tank what could go wrong
MINA*INHALES*HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
if you play shiv you are indian simple as
why the fuck this this retarded ass fucking game drop me into alchemist? i can't do shit at this rank with so little playtime/experience, all i can do is waste my time just losing continuously. it takes painfully long to drop back to a worse rank. genuinely unenjoyable
>>573200814because eomm systems need mmr mossad agents like you to drag down other people to keep them engaged and to rig games. all multiplayer games do this
>>573200814Alchemist is the equivalent of Silver/Bronze in League or Archon in Dota, you belong there for now.
>>573201017i clearly don't, i should be in a lower rank
How do I Celeste?
Today I learned: Holliday is really good but ONLY if your Shiv doesnt bait you every single fucking time. Otherwise, instead of getting REALLY easy picks on the Billy and Lash early, you just feed them into oblivion because everytime you Lasso or say your going in on someone Shiv is fucking jungle for some reason (he was right next to you when you ulted btw)
after ~100 hours i climbed my way to phanom and now all im gonna do is stealth throw every single gamefuck you niggers, this game is HORRIBLE and the only reason it isnt at 0 player count is f2p and 3rd worlders
boo hoo keep crying baby
>>573201073solo characters like Vindicta or Holliday genuinely can ruin entire games, but ONLY if your playing duo.There are a handful of really fucking fun characters but they are "solo" characters AKA they cant do anything in lane at all unless the person your with is also at your skill level and understands how the game works.If this person is retarded as fuck then you just lose lane and possibly the game because these characters can't do anything on their own but are really good in a team.kind of retarded game design but whatever I guess
>>573201357enjoy eating my dick and losing your mmr while the game loses another 10k players this week
>Win 2 games>do extremely poorly in one game>lose 2 ranks??? I thought you fuckers said that it's only W/L mmr. Theres CLEARLY fucking K/D mmr in this game too because how did I lose 2 ranks after winning 2 games?
shiv is one of the easiest heros in the this game. turning your camera 180 and right clicking isnt hard
>>573201073>he was right next to you when you ulted btwmy biggest issue with the game rni fly to some lane to instantly jump on a guy only to find my teammate peaced out to the other side of the map
>>573193218>next apollo match>get a cheating infernus that's underground and unkillablethis character is cursed or something
>>573201631NTA but i've learned that playing Holliday in low elo matches is throwing because NOBODY knows what her lasso does, so you go in and lasso someone for an easy pick and everyone just fucking stares at them.Like nigga WTF ARE YOU DOING, ATTACK THEM, MELEE, STUN DO LITERALLY ANYTHING!!!
>drifter>apollo>abramswhy are these 3 heroes played by people so comically racist and chud-coded?
>>573201631its great when your lane partner randomly goes jungle.Like... bro souls are shared... going jungle is just leaving me in a 1v2 to fucking die.Yoshi would be better off removing Jungle because I honest to god don't know it's purpose.Jungle Monsters do NOT give more than a wave of minions at like any point in the game NOR is farming them faster or more efficient...
>>573201739>holliday lassos someone>starts jumping around like an ape nigger making the target impossible to shoot
>>573182681both need to carry a lot
>>573201936yeah jungle in laning is kinda bad icefrog eventually learned this after having small camps available mid in dota, you werent even fighting anymore just competing over who could clear waves to kill/stack camps fastest
>>573201990its funny cause jump pad isnt even worth it.you get 1 extra second of stun where as that second you just wasted in the air could have killed them.
they better add a blue ixian woman with side boobs
>>573174880High agency hero. I pretty much don't lose on her unless it's a giga unfair stop from minute 1. Being a carry that's also tanky lets you be the deciding factorSo many heroes you can sweat your balls off and lose the late game because their carries beat you carries. I just farm a side line as Geist for 15 minutes and go to objectives and just win
>queue into 4 russians>lose hard because no one has any macro or sense that they're supposed to farm and scale >permanently force fights into the same people they fed in lane>lose with a 80k deficit GUARANTEED
>>573202782sorry just regular cleavage
>>573202831thats what you get for allying with the wrong side in ww2
>infernus gets fed>entire team complains about infernus being fed>nobody buys a single item to counter him
>>573203003which is objectively correct you only buy counters if you're ahead, if you're behind you buy damage to kill people
>>573193839>>573193983Fun fact: One of the first things a Native Americans said to one of the pilgrims of the May Flower was, in perfect English "Do you have any beer"
>Pin Infernus as Paige>I do vidrelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxlMFsw1OfY
>>573202782She'll be purple
>>573201579Maybe the loss was against retards so you lost even more
i miss wallbraker victor
>>573201631a lot of players seem incapable of basic cognitive functionlike they literally cannot put 2 and 2 together and say>"hmm, my lane partner is getting ambushed in the veil cubby, i should probably help them">"hmm, our ally is sneaking behind the enemy players, surely they're coming to help, this must be an obvious gank, why else would they be here">"hmm, that wave of troopers is getting pretty big and headed straight towards our exposed walker, maybe now is NOT the best time to be clearing this camp for pennies"it's like they're fvcking bugs who cannot function without orders from the queen telling them to go farm, or fight other bugs, or die for countrythere's an extremely simple mental flowchart that can be followed by using 1% of your brain power and even that surpasses their limitsand of course if you try to give them the barest amount of advice, hint, or criticism, they have a fvcking meltdown and call you poor or some dumb shit
The entire game went to shit with old gods. Balance changes for the sake of balance changes are fucking horrible.
>>573204136i will never help my lane partner with anything if they don't buy regen 1st/2nd item because it's clear they're mentally retarded and just baiting me
>>573203804purple is the inferior color
>>573204136poorfag detected
>mcginnis understands the concept of zoning >I lose lane
>>573205520McGinnis's wall spawning 2 turrets is retarded and if Yoshi is ADAMENT on it being good then they should despawn when her wall despawns dude. The fact that it doesnt happen already shows that Yoshi simply CANNOT be icefrog because thats such a retarded design decision its baffling
>>573206125Icefrog has always been a retard
yeah idk about this game, i tried it for the first time today in street brawl because i refuse to play comp modes in anything and it just feels like total RNG garbage, am i missing something?
>>573206242>play the rng garbage mode>its rng garbagewaow
>>573206242>it just feels like total RNG garbageAnon discovers what its like to be teamed up with total strangers
>>573206242yeah, it's very rng. sometimes the opponents will get enhanced versions of their meta builds, while you get absolute garbage, or you just never get any counter items at all.Either way, I prefer this mode to the default one, since it isn't won by farming for 20 minutes and then instadeleting your enemies.Also street brawl allows you to try out fun builds on various heroes.
>>573206242Where the hell is my damned bitchin meatwad mod for viscous?Also you are now reading this in my voice
>>573207060 unc this is a zoomer general
>>573206242Deadlock competitive being the de facto/only mode means it's not really as bad as most other games.I can't blame you for being leery, my experience with counter strike comp was:>load into first ever match>teammate says "Hey bro you're unranked, is this your first game?">"Yeah">votekicked in buy phaseThis would never happen in deadlock unless you reached eternus, but the only way to reach eternus is to be this kind of player.
Is the game still troonslop? I stopped playing Q1 of this year because of it.The game was at its peak two years ago.
>>573201072by some hormone treatment kits and you'll be good to go
>>573208340Obsessed
>>573206442>>573206458i play a lot of pvp games but no mobas and im really thinking my first impression of you faggots was correct: autistic (the bad kind, as in non-functional), arrogant, and acts like women when someone makes a criticism and asks a question in good faith>>573206757>street brawl allows you to try out fun builds on various heroesthat's why im doing it, why the fuck is there no normal fucking lane gamemode without competitive ranking, i dont want mmr systems, i dont want forced 50/50, i just wanna play the game as designed without some mouthbreather yelling at me because i picked the niggerfaggot card instead of the faggotnigger card and somehow that means i do -50% damage which i dont know about because i have 3 hours total
>>573203001My country was neutral and actually had ties with the Germans.
>Was bitching about how retarded Holiday is>Actually play her>Fun as fuck>Might actually be my new favorite hero>Might think she's even more retarded after playing herThe only thing that sucks is when you lasso someone, even call it out ingame, and nobody kills them.
>>573204790my favourite are>we just globally nerfed something on every single hero >yes even the bad heroes
>>573209162just stand still in their faceits the only way
>>573208937Nobody cares, nigga.
>>573209219reminds me of world of warcraft always giving players 25% more health and enemies 25% more damagewhat's the point
>>573166343>>573169042You have to heavy melee them to make them active for your side.There's also a short period where you can heavy melee them before they sound the alarm.
>>573209367while i agree typically its enemies getting 25% more health, and then you needing to grind gear to get back to +25% damage
>>573209367wow is so shit you'll be playing and the entire arena scene is 99% disc priest or something cause it rapes everything else effortlessly. it just rotates like that on purpose so they can sell class boosts to retards.
>>573208937>say it's rng garbage>get reply agreeing it's rng garbage>cry because the reply sounded meanAnd you're calling me a woman?
>spirit>gun>"green"It's called Vitality.
>>573202167That's why you immediately cancel your momentum after padding.
>>573208771The death of you and all your xisters will come soon :)))
Slapping Graves across the face with a pretzel i bought off a street vendor
What elo does green graves stop working.
>multiple types of damage>each with their own boosts and resistances>"increase bullet damage by 0.05% per shot while dodging and shouting the word NIGGER into the mic">all this means is a few builds become popular and no one plays anything else because no one wants to make spreadsheets, they want to play video games>people accuse others of being "meta bitches" while they themselves didnt even make their own build>abilities and weapons dont do consistent damage because you have no idea wtf your enemy has at every single momentyup, its RPGslop, no wonder the player count is ~10k
>>573210484eternus 4
>>573209162as said before, Holliday is fun but she is a character that relies on either your team being above 45 IQ, or with a duo.Otherwise it's VERY easy to get behind and stay behind as her.
>>573210484the moment you buy a pretzel
>victor farms all game, doesn't help in teamfights>goes negative and does nothing all gamegreat!
>>573210512>"increase bullet damage by 0.05% per shot while dodging and shouting the word NIGGER into the mic"Can't wait for this patch. I will be a GOD
>>573210647its already in, the character is named "Shiv", but its okay when he says it because all shiv players are brown
If the other team has more than one m1 hero, is plated armor a better choice than metal skin?
So Drifter's also gonna catch a nerf in the next couple days like Graves does every time her win/pickrate looks like this in eternus, right? Guys?
that fuckin bird that i hate
>>573210895i hope so, it'll be even funnier when he cant do jackshit against me after I press 2 and get gets sniped trying to hide in the cuckbuilding
graves should be removed from the game entirely. fundamentally unfun character, regardless of how effective she is in match.
Getting my arm ripped off by Silver after I offered her a dog treat
Getting my throat fucked by Silver after I offered her a dog treat
I'm actually very thankful for Deadlock because it ultimately made me realize gaming is a complete shit hobby and that all these games are just skinner boxes. That one video that says "Deadlock is a game about chores" wasn't kidding, 90% of your time in any given match is you rotting away in real time as you farm the same copy paste minions. Zero ingenuity, same old MOBA slop but actually worse because you have twice the amount of item slots and the items are twice as expensive as other MOBAs, so the snowball never really ends. This game was completely wasted on being a MOBA, and it's just poetry how a big developer gets a chance to make something new and decides to just rehash the same shit they've been making for the last 20 years. Complete risk averse, unoriginal faggy garbage, creatively bankrupt devs.Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
>>573164204Never liked bomb paradox> Throw bombs> Enemies move> Well, see ya laterI prefer gun with an echo shard added on and maybe expansion.
>>573211262ok
>>573210895drifter is extremely lol weak what are you saying? just hold s retard
Why yes I do get to be rem but gun carries and no I will never be actually nerfed.
Do (You) use voice chat to communicate with your team?
>>573211884I use a voice changer to sound like
We need new heroes stat.im surprised they havnt done a rat hero to add to the roster that can use tunnels but I dont want what /reddit/ is proposing
>>573211681seekergawd, I...
>>573212192>more new, unfun overtuned heroesI would prefer they actually work on making the game not dogshit instead of inflating it even more
>>573212165>"Took 'em out"
>>573212387>ivy isnt opInitiate-kun...
>play standard>retard teammate thats not meant to be in your lobby goes 0-15 against their carry>play brawl>only get matched against paige stacks spamming lash ult into cc chained into cc chained into ccWhere is the fun?
>banned til 11:30garbage ass game
>>573214251control your emotions, child
Silver just feels so bad to playHer window of relevancy is so short
>>573214251>Game literally bans (You) from joining my matchesGood ass game
>>573214546i thought she's S+++ tho?
>>573180992shartifact million dollar tourney is not pushing esports now?
>>573208937>and acts like women when someone makes a criticism and asks a question in good faithI do this
>>573215172She's much better if your game ends before 30mins
I just got my first green carrot :D
Anyone have the pic / sketch of geist in her 19th century clothing? its not on safebooru
>>573217686No, but I have a picture of Graves eating a sandwhich
Im gonna poop in the community's drinking water
>>573217963I don't like that because it has Gr*ves in it
>>573218271How about dis?
>>573218656She cute (ugly)
>>573174880>>573174880High skill floor and high skill ceiling. Unique movement ability that is fun to learn, and nobody else gets. Canonically a 10/10 in-game. Always strong, even when weak is fairly strong.And most importantly, MOST importantly; Makes absolute shitters like the majority of /dlg/ seethe and cry 24/7
>>573218656la creatura morbido
>que ivy, the character I want to play, at max prio along with shiv/drifter (highest pickrate in the game r/n) at lowest prio>get either shiv or drifter more often then ivydoes the game just have a system where it favors characters you've played over those you haven't? I was trying to learn a new character so maybe the game is trying to prevent me from benig an ELO terrorist, but I was winning almost every game I actually got as ivynot even like ivy was banned, someone else in the game would get ivy over me
>>573218764being over and under tuned 10 times during an alpha just means valve doesnt know wtf he should be and his design is garbagei've banned you since starting in 2024 and im never changing it, you are the biggest faggots who play this game
>>573219523I've been testing this, it's weird. >My old preferences used to be high priority Rem, mid priority Ivy, low Priority Mo & Krill>With this three tier priority preference always got Rem or Ivy and never Mo & Krill>Change it so Ivy and Rem are both high priority, no mid priority picks, but multiple low priority picks with Mo & Krill, Silver, and Shiv>Never get Ivy and Rem and instead get Mo & Krill or Silver constantly >If I'm playing with a friend who has Mo & Krill, and Shiv among others high priority I never get those with the latter setup Something is fucky with this and it's annoying me. I think you need to have at least two high priority preferences, and one mid priority preference, then third tier preferences to usually get high priority
Im gonna play gun mcginnis and shit myself
Im gonna shit myself
>>573221243its honestly not a bad idea if your M1s refuse to M1 or if you have no good M1s
>>573209631Actually it's called orange and purple
So i've been trying out this shiv guy everyone seems to talk lately and have somewhat mixed opinions.I dont think i've done much here but killed everyone regardless.A fulltank shouldnt be able to deal this dmg just because he got tankbuster and magebrand
>EU destroys NA in Deadlock>no EU destroys NA in footballlel
>>573221790>tfw your WUT meter is full
>>573221790>BEWEGUNGSTEMPO REDUZIERT!What a mouthful
>>573221790>WUT barmeme language
>>573221803both graciously donated so the eu doesn't collectively ropeyou're welcome
>>573191847>Doorman behind GravesHow the mighty have fallen
>>573221803>EU pisses and cries then runs to NA whenever slavs get uppity in Deadlock>EU pisses and cries then runs to NA whenever 3D slavs get uppity in real life irll3l
You shouldn't have PUSHED ME>*jumps someone and gets them down to half with full combo*>*nearly dies, barely manages to ult in time*>*gets 1/4 hp back with wolf combo then dies anyway*>*respawns and goes to farm lane*>*m1gger tells her to fuck off*>*goes to farm jungle*>*doesn't because she's fucking silver lmao*>*gets ganked, drops combo but dies anyway because no ult for 80 seconds*>*respawns and goes to join urn fight*>*gets wolf form off just in the nick of time*>*barely manages to leap out of the fight and go base*>*falls behind and loses game because everyone else is coming online*>*gets called S+++++++ anyway*AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>573224269Didn't read, skill issue.
>>573224421You read it lol
yoshi where is my spirit item that reduces all weapon damage by 25% on hit and disarms for 2.5 seconds after a short build up?
I want to fill Silver with puppies...
>>573225164That's called Escalating Exposure, and it achieves those objectives by killing them
>>573224520>STILL no silver images where she has a cookiewhat the FUCK are these drawfags DOING
>>573225367You didn't pay them enough to
What the fuck am I missing>Play game as a character without inbuilt super mobility options>Dash once>Enemy walks at me in a straight line>No ability to escape, desperately trying to do anything but I am baby crawling away from them>Die>Take note of their build and ability buy patterns>Mimic that>Enemy proceeds to magdump into me and die before I can even press all the buttons>Play game as the usual non-escape character>They walk towards me in a straight line>Unload everything I have into them>Their health bar moves a fraction>Die>Copy their build with their character next game>Die in a microsecond of exposure to the enemy and have to spend the entire game hiding behind my team>Next game I play something who's supposed to be tanky and follow the tankiest build>I'm playing against hellish team-wide CC dumps like Bebop hook -> Slowing Bullets damage whirlwind -> Ivy Grass -> Capacitor -> Bebop Hook -> Mystic slow victor aura -> Knockdown -> Wraith Ult -> Bebop hook -> Double Ivy Statue -> Second Knockdown -> Bebop hook
>>573225337there are only a few heroes that can actually effectively build ee and more than half of them are m1ggers
who the fuck came up with the magic carpet?
>>573224269Mogged by a literal RAT. You have no idea how many Silvers I've killed in the jungle as pillow nuke Rem
at what point during the gimmick build do you realize that maybe the shitpost you cooked up 5 minutes prior to queuing might not be a good build after all
Where is the tier 3 upgrade for suppressor?
>>573227023When you realize you didn't stomp lane and don't have echo shard before min 15 (melee haze).
Is there some trick to Vindicta's snipe? I feel like I miss with it despite aiming right at their face and I feel like I am missing something.
>>573227070suppressor getting nerfed next patch m1ggers are not allowed to be debuffed effectively screenshot this
>>573226239This shota was built for RAPE!
anyone else notice their games are just whoever groups first wins?the game has such a fun flow for the first like 8-10 mins and then any time you try do anything you get fucked by 3-4 people who lost lane
>deadlock? heh......its for intellectuals and gentlesirs like myself....if it's not for you....go back to rivals and league, kid.....>ok I will>w..wait!! no!!! come back!!! H--HELP ME YOSHIIIIIIIII HEEEEEEEEEEELPPPPPPPPP
Going gun mcginnis is like a breath of fresh air.The way everyone runs from you like they dont know what to do because somebody brought a gun to their LARP session
Just played a game of silver vs gravesNo wonder silver players hate graves
>>573229404Silver players hate everyone that doesnt feed her super early
>>573229101>gun mcg shows up>walk away from her>she has to spin down her gun to chase me, ruining her dps
>>573225279are werewolves and humans reproductively compatible? silver implies lycanthropy is hereditary in a conversation with graves (unless hereditary lycanthropy exists alongside a typical spreading of the curse), so if humans and werewolves can reproduce, what would the offspring be? is lycanthropy dominant or recessive?
>>573229520>he doesn't know about fleetfoot
>>573229021.>people are leaving? let's rework URN again!
>"BRING OLD URN BACK!!!!">*Brings old urn back*>"people are leaving? lets rework urn again!"
with urn koth you had agency where you could deny the koth if you had ults down/teammates dead. with this new koth you just get cucked by your retard teammates dying before it even if you're up souls
>>573229021Its time for them to admit that nobody cares about harvest moon gameplay in a shooter and finally focuse on more pvp gamemodes
>>573225801nothing, this is how mobas work and why its a dead genre
>THE URN SUCKS, WE CANT COMEBACK. YOSHI DO SOMETHING!>They try something different>WE HATE IT>They try something elseWE HATE IT>Get it right after multiple attempts>P-PEOPLE ARE LEAVING BC OF URNThey're leaving because of shiv
Thank you yoshi for buffing shiv, not doing shit to celeste and allowing venator to exist. Better nerf graves again just to be sure shes useless
>>573229404>light melee oncewow that was hard
>>573231954No they're leaving because they aren't a fan of the current business strategy of valve where they copy the Riot balancing model of always having 1-2 heroes be broken so their goycattle playerbase will go:>"gosh darnit! [hero] is so OP! but its okay i'll keep playing because The Next Patch™ will save the game for sure this time"And then when they nerf shiv, they'll make ivy have unlimited ammo when tethered or something and the cycle repeatstl;dr current valve strategy treats you as goycattle and people dont like that so they leave
>>573227797its not hitscan
>>573232479>people leave valve for this and not riot, for whom the model is namedMakes sense if you don't think about it for more than ten seconds
>>573175342nope, skull graves is pretty much the only build thats not 1000% shit and its not that good
>>573172165>I believe poorly made fake screenshots still to THIS dayDid you know limbus company and deadlock are getting a crossover?! here's a hidden leak skin
>>573172165if next major update is pve this game will be on life support. no one wants pve its a fucking moba
>>573221803is the soccer super bowl still going on? I thought that ended? who won?
>>573229404build dispel magic and she gets raped (you're still playing silver so you'll lose the game anyway)
>>573233610Belgium. They raped USA.
*abducts you*
>I'm outta here
>>573234043I can see it the Germans love soccer, I had no idea we had a team until I goggled it, crazy.
>>573234149amazing play.......you.......killed a lady giest 1v3 while being up 40k souls??? now thats what i call epic.....
shiv seems cool so far
Uninstalled. So done with gunslop.
>>573234329kill yourself tourist
>>573234329brawlGOD returns
>farming yellow lane>push from my walker up to enemy yellow guardian>suddenly 3 teammates are there>waves are crashing at blue and green walker>lose blue and yellow walkeryep that's an afk
Oh mein hashem in israel, I just dominated the poopin brawlen with my shivenfart!
Whats up with these patches recently where they make one character so powerful, after a week or two they get nerfed but then they just overbuff another character
>>573235302Forced meta shuffling to keep people interested while they take too long to put out an actual update
>be drifter player>patch makes him into top 1 pub winrate somehow>now I get drifter 1/4 as often because he's either banned or picked by someone elseWow I'm sure everyone just loved drifter all along and was waiting to play him fuck you faggots
Forced 50 eom bros? When will my abrams winrate tank to 50%?
>>573235371Don't worry, he'll get omegaraped and feel like shit to play on the next balance patch but at least you'll be able to get him consistently in your games again.
>>573235784i had a 70% wr until phantom 1 when it went to 35% for the last 100 games
>>573235862If you're phantom thats surely because the enemies just got harder
>>573235331this, retards need constant balance roulette or their low time preference pulls them to a new shiny
>>573234149damn, that's crazy. aerial lift wombo combo, crazy. last paradox I had in my game bought refresher and missed his ult twice in a row
>>573235927enemies feel the same. very rare to see an enemy even get over 20 kills. teammates feel much, much worse.
>>573235302>>573232479
>>573228981once items and zerging take over it's a bad unbalanced mobalaning phase is the fun hero shooter segment
>>573235683It didn't matter
>>573235784When you play with me twin, lets play.
>>573232479>they'll make ivy have unlimited ammo when tethered or somethingdon't fucking give them ideas
>>573237263>Lightning Scroll in 2026KWABOTY
>>573237314Two of my teammates got picked off and the enemy team went for midboss as I had 6400 souls and ult up so I bought a lightning scroll and we raped them all and won the midboss fight because of it interrupting Seven ult and mulching them all a noob like you can never understand tempo buying
so tankbuster is shit, rightwhat do i buy insteadand don't say magic carpet, that's obvious
>>573237380>so tankbuster is shit, right>what do i buy insteadthis is all character dependent, who are you playing?
why is Spirit Rend a bad item? I never see it bought
>>573237405it's often not, any instance of tankbuster poster here is usually met with shiggymus diggymus regardless of character or compI'm not really looking for specific tips, just popped into my head 'alright well then what do you buy instead wise guy'
its getting so boring the amount of smurfs/alts now, every single game has one and its always a Wraith/Vyper. Either that or some Eternus duo with his shitlow friend that completely dominates everything
>>5732374692 second cooldown. only makes sense on mirage maybe
considering we STILL have not seen a SINGLE real leak, I'm guessing the content update might not be until September
Kelvinbros I need help, my winrate after a long break has been fucking terrible what's the general ability max order now? And why do people not stick close to me on lane anymore despite me telling them numerous times I will ult? Please help me anons.
>>573237630I mean yeah, Yoshi said that
>>573237380Tankbuster helps to pop something like spirit burn
I have been enjoying learning the Valve black woman of unoriginality (Calico). Is a gun build worth playing just to have a little bit of fun or is it throwing?t. ArchonSecond question: Toxic Bullets is Infernus' powerspike right? I'm asking because I haven't played him in a long time and the build I'm using puts it pretty late in his core items.
>>573237630Yoshi a few days ago:>There's a matchmaking update, an item update and a content update planned>The MM update will probably be first in a few weeks (Valve Time: a month)>Then we'll give it a little time to settle (read: a few weeks)>afterwards we'll push whichever update is finished first (most probably the item update)September is already optimistic bro, it might just be October.
>>573237782gun calico is throwing. infernus in his current state doesn't have a real powerspike. you can go either boundless or EE. rapid recharge. lifesteal and radiant regen. spiritual overflow if you really want to go for m1.
>>573237587Killing these retards is the best thing. The e rankers or whoever smurfing is beyond petty. Out play them once and youre on their shit list the whole match.
every game is like this in either direction
>>573237962Thanks. I have both an M1 build and a Dashfernus build I alternate between depending on enemy composition, if there's too many escapes or mobility I just go with the M1.
>>573237996I wouldn't mind if it happens every now and then, but its every other game I play has them, idk if its phantom/oracle.
>>573237782gun calico is not good. spirit calico isn't particularly good either but at least having burst damage fits in with her kit
>>573238140actually i came back from one of these games out of my 500 other losses so thats why you can't surrender its winnableanyways if you excuse me i have to farm echo shard to put on my bomb
>>573238371I fall off pretty hard late game but that seems to be pretty normal for a pick character. Many top builds I see have Trophy Collector, is the item actually good now that it's cheaper or is it better to save up for Veil Walker ?
>>573237650the order is play a real character and stop throwing
>>573237913sorry sir please understand, a flat damage reduction to shiv is impossible, we lost the ability to code it
>>573237650Only M1 are allowed to be viable sorry Kelvinbro.
>>573237630There was a leak last thread
>>573225801You're not accounting for soul difference and positioning. I don't think there really are tanky builds except maybe Victor. You do well knowing what your character is supposed to do though, in this meta it's more of a aoeslop.
havent heard anyone mention how literally running the urn on the ground without any movement tech is faster than taking vents and shit nowthey removed all the movement skill needed to do a fast urn
>>573239635ya, but I said REAL leak.
drifter 75% pick rate, is this the highest ever for any one character?
>>573240715no
>>573241091Why do so many people pick Haze? She's shit as an M1 compared to the others, is it just because retards can secure kills with 4?
>>573241223her design and her gun appeal to shootergame autists and at the end of the day yes you can just walk around the map using point and click actives on someone to unplug their keyboard and mouse and delete them with ult and being able to go invis makes positioning significantly easier to set up
>>573241223what makes you think shes shit as an m1>fury trance>siphon bullets>silencercongrats you are now unkillable
>ognbsissies can't survive the annual shivpocalypseKEK shut it all down
>>573241223before her 4 was gutted it was an instantly win any teamfight button because no one bothered buying metal skin
>>573241223She wasn't shit when that screencap was taken.
>>573241640in the patch you're talking about ult haze could just buy merc mag and still shit damage during her ult into metal skin i had a clip as kelvin where i popped metal skin and her ult still did 4000 damage in 3 seconds
>warden is now just another aoe ult slop boti thought marvel rivals was aoe slop and deadlock was epic?
>>573234329literal initiate I player btw who thinks he can beat anyone in eternus
>>573239886good>sorry bro only celeste and holliday and viscous are allowed to do urn in 15 seconds
>>573241767your curse bro?
>>573242410why's the dumpster so huge
>>573241637i turned your troon into engineer from tf2
>>573242265do you want to guess what item she might have had active during that exchange
>>573225367You have to kill yourself, newcancer.
I've been playing as gunbop and my favorite targets to hook are Viscous and Dynamo because they're so predictable.
>queue into 4 russian team mates>lose game hardwow
>queue into 4 burger teammates>they ask to surrender at 10 minuteswow
>try to have some fun in brawl>oops celeste!>afk and let team seethenot playing against this dogshit tranny character they added to lure in foidswhat is the point of avoiding characters if im matched against one every time?
>>573225367So this is going to shock you but most people aren't zoophiles and aren't mentally deranged enough to find that even remotely hott. drawfag
>>573242471Why did you turn Silver into Engineer TF2?
>>573241637I'm a four lanes oldfag but I joined some time after Shiv wasn't Hitler anymore just before they added Mirage or maybe I was such a noob that I didn't even notice it.
>>573243325did they update that skin yet?
>>573242410btw this is an inaccurate dumpster design it has the side bars for modern dump trucks
>>573243325why are there so many people mentally deranged enough to find kn*ts hot thenexplain that shit ratbird nigger
disgusting to think graves took ixian seed into her womb probably creating a whole brand new type of genetic horror like rem
>omg lol COOKIE silver COOKIE cookie lol hahah silver cookie cookie cookie cookie cookiesaar
>>573243960You indian obsessed fuckers never make any goddamn sense
>>573243997indians are bro tiers and natural allies to whites
yeah gave it a whirl, never againmobas are for the extremely mentally illenjoy your 10k playerbase
>>573191847>Silver is closest to the center
OP pic got janny'd again
>>573244689Filtered.
>>573244689k
lol genuinely thought the game matched me in ritualist or arcanist instead but it was phantom 5this haze is an elo terrorist!!!!
note to apollo players, you can accidentally cancel your disengaging sigil by using something like arctic blast during the cast animation, cancelling your sigil and making it go on cooldown so uhh dont do thatt. just lost a game because of that
>>573243137then stop queueing on their servers rusnigger you're the reason they're surrendering
>>573245000>"NO PLEASE THE GAME IS UNBALANCED AS FUCK, THE HEROS ARE RETARDED, THERE IS TOO MUCH FARM, YOU'RE FOCUSING ON THE WRONG THINGS YOSHI">yeah i agree this game fucking sucks im done>".... HEH GET GUD"ill never understand how moba players take 5k+ hours to come to the same conclusion i always do in less than 10 playing them
My god how is silver so fucking uselessLiterally 14 kills and am equal net worth with the enemies and I can't dive them or punish them for playing like retards at allAny other character with that kind of lead could solo march down mid and end the fucking game
>>573246815>moba players are severely mentally illwater is wet anonanyway im just here because of the brawl mode, the actual "game" is a fucking joke, i wish they'd just remove the objectives and let me deathmatch
>>573246815I didn't say any of that. I think the balance is overall pretty good compared to most games I play.
>>573246828>Literally 14 kills and equal net worth>Equal networth>That kind of leadBased retard
i just saw the global buy/winrate for disarming hex and bullet resiliencelol
>>573247568looking at winrates is easily misleading as retards misuse counter items. you dont buy them when youre behind and already lost. you buy them beforehand
>>573247568Well? Did you see the global winrate for tankbuster?
>>573247568>>573247665it only works if your team isn't retarded and listen to the calls to focus the guy who's gonna rape your entire team in 4s after the disarm endsthis is a herculean task even for ascendant players
>>573246828she's S+++++++++++ retardkun
>>573246828>equal net worth>lead
>crushing fists 60% winrate in eternusi thought people said this item was bad and you can just press f to parry?
>>573246828What do you expect from a werewolf calling herself "silver"? It's like being a vampire and calling yourself onion
>>573248382>mina and drifter have to live their eternal unlives without ever getting to enjoy the lovely taste of caramelized onion in a dishMy god... what a hellish fate....
>>573247393>>57324831414 kills at 20 minutes is a lead on any other character
>>573248382Garlic...
>>573248876If you have the same net worth as the opponent you have no lead unless the person is sitting on unused cash and you aren't.You could have five trillion kills at 5 minutes, if the opponent has the same NW you are on equal footing.
Three games back to back where I'm the most fed player in the lobby and we lose.I am the only constant, I need to get better by watching Eternus streamers.
>>573249502Just stop playing Silver
>>573249052What I take issue with is the fact that it isn't a leadWhat is the point of playing a character that can't farm if kills don't result in a lead?She can't choose when to ult and can't make aggressive plays without itShe makes a pick and then can't do anything afterward because ult is down longer than the respawn timer at any point in the game
>>573249502
>>573250302>0/5/0>and there are two worse teammates than youGrats on not killing yourself after that game
>>573249935If you have 14 kills early and no lead that just tells me you're overfighting and grouping with 3+ teammates so you get no money because early kills with so many brooltards aren't worth shit you don't even need to farm the jungle just hit some waves instead of permabrooling retard
>random on the enemy team as graves>feeds hard>complains about the enemy heroes in chat every time he dies to them>see him again as ivy>feeds hard and complains about the enemy heroes in chat every time he dies to them>this happens like 4 more times all on different heroes>tell him "i've seen you in mm multiple times and you're always running it down and complaining when you die it might be a player issue">they immediately become apologetic and stop typing for the rest of the gamewell damn
>>573250830*pauses*
Nearly choking to death from Silver's musk after she drops her panties
Is Shiv Japanese Bosozoku biker? Where is his bike?
>play some really fun character like bebop and seven instead of my main geist>drop from OracleHow do I have fun and don't lose at the same time?
>>573252187>How do I have fun and don't lose at the same time?you don't, play meta
>>573252321whyt is meta?
>Silver getting too enthusiastic during sex and accidentally transforming
>>573252364Sort by pickrate its pretty obvious>Venator, Drifter, Calico, Shiv, Infernus, Lash, Billy
>>573252364Just play shiv and never not play shiv
>>573252437>Sex, Sex, Kill, Rape, Rape, Sex, Rape
>>573252187funmaxx at all times; you'll improve either way
whenever someone abandons and the rest of the enemy team doesn't leave i actually anticipate a loss because your team always inevitably does stupid shit thinking they'll get a free win anyway because of it being 5v6
>>573252526>play viscous melee build>it's really fun but absolutely impossible to win as>you'll get better haha
How hard will Yoshit nerf Shiv after this current patch? Will he finally make his knives heal the enemy on hit?
>>573252786I'm thinking he needs some sort of built in silencer for his gun. Too easy to get spirit nuked right now.
>>573252773the moment you build splatter or support it'll be like taking the weights off. soft smurfing, even.
Team bad me good
>>573252437>pickrate>metaWhat do you think meta means?
Game bad me good
>>573253123team bad me bad
>>573253241Winrate is complicated stat and doesn't necessary correlate to a hero being strong or weak (GT had a abysmal winrate for ages with a low pickrate but he was obviously OP as fuck)But pickrate is pretty blatant in how favoured it is by the overall community. People aren't going out of their way to pick bad meta heroes.
>>573252187>losing as bebopliterally how?
>>573253458>bopped when he shouldve beeped
>>573252526>Play bomb Bob>Every hook is perfect>your temammtes can't kill anyone or stun >play Seven>scroll, refresher, escalating, healban, duration, cooldown, range, indo, unstoppable >hit and stun 6 enemies for 1 minute straight>enemies have to split and some of them are hiding, two of them are dead>your whole team dies to the last 4 retards anyway
>>573244038>>573243997least obvious dalit/pajeets
>>573253458what build?
>>573253662>bomb BopYou gotta let it go bro. Just build gun.>Oh man that last hook-bomb-punch almost killed them! Next time for sure I'll have enough stacksNever happening. Shoot them in the head with orange items instead.
>>573253770my own
>>573254075This looks shitJust play gun chud
>>573254075where's healing strike? it reduces speed by 60 on hit
what you faggots don't understand is that every build you see on yt only works because those fuckers have a team of friends who carry their shitty item choices
>>573254301lifestrike is trash because hook triggers it with its small melee damage causing it to go on light melee cooldown (6 seconds) and heal for nothing, and the slow gets wasted while they are airborne from the punch anyway
>>573253437Meta stands for most effective tactic available. I think it goes without saying that doing what everyone else is doing is not the most effective
>>573254464is capacitor better or knockdown?
>>573254495No it doesn't, that's just a backronym.
>>573254075>hybrid melee spirit>no spirit snatch???Agree with the other guy, his fire rate base makes gun too good to pass up
>>573254604i dont buy capacitor, knockdown is for sevens who are greedy by delaying unstoppable, i dont buy it for anything else
>>573254075based fellow spiritpunch hybridbop gamer
>>573254724spirit snatch gets reduced to 70% effectiveness because of hook/uppercut counting as light melee, making it trash and not worth 3200 and an item slot
>>573247568I'm buying heroic aura instead of disarming hex. Item kinda feels like a meme idk
>>573254667lol ok, it’s been the meaning since I learned it in the 90s but whatever, hold onto the metaphysical nonsense definition that doesn’t even make sense in the context
>>573254991I accept your concession.
I WILL boost the bullet resilience win rate myself, I will rush it and bully the gun carry every game
in the past couple of days I've noticed at least 3 different retards who always are bottom damage, bottom kp, bottom everything and they're always put on my team and it makes the eomm very obvious
>>573254991Holy shit you're retarded. Meta comes from ancient Greek.
>>573255254*kills you with on hit spirit damage*
>>573254890Idk man, even at 0.7 the numbers aren’t bad and it fits your gameplan
>>573255406Meta in the context of gaming is always about what the strongest strategy is, the Greek definition doesn’t make sense in this context because we are talking about stuff that exists within the gameI recently learned that this is a regional thing which is why it filters so many people
>>573252402I would write that, but I've already written something close to that twice and I can only pull the same trick X amount of times
>>573255587what would you replace in the core section with spirit snatch?
>>573253458who are theregs of dlg
>>573255749Bait used to be believable
>>573255749the greek definition makes perfect sensemetagaming is about not just playing the game's own systems, but considering the "higher level" of the behavior, habits, tendencies, etc. of the other players or community, and what's popularin the same way "metatext" is text about the rest of the text, "metagaming" is gaming that's about the rest of the game as a whole
>>573255859Idk if you have to replace it but I guess toYou could do extra spirit/spirit strike/coldfront/mystic vuln for your 4.8k and just upgrade those
>>573255326i WILL play tank/CC M&Ki WILL not buy any gun itemsi WILL pull 18k damageyou WILL NOT attack the enemy when i chain CC and Combo themwe WILL lose
>>573256106>trying to game the metathat's closer to anti-meta
>>573254075mate you have nine 6,4k items in your "core", and that doesn't even include basic counter stuff you'll probably have to buy every game, or the other 3,2k stuff you need for damage as well
>>573256352"anti-meta" is just "meta" once it gets popular enough"meta" does not inherently mean "best", only most popular or most commonly played, which obviously is the most effective builds in practice in most cases, but is not necessarily so
>>573256106I really don’t think there is anything transcendent about what we are discussing. When someone asks for the meta, I give them a good build, I don’t tell them to build bomb Geist even though it’s popular
>>573257101>>573257101
its been a fun experience watching icefrog build a game that was fun 2 years ago and patch by patch make it a complete dogshit experience in every regardhats off to that hopoo hire ya dumb saudi nigga
>>573257631why did you delete that terr
>>573247196>the balance is good>half the cast is unplayable >the other half is overpowered as fuck
>>573263543bro the lowest winrate is only like 47%
>>573265221No, it's like 43% on Silver and then Sinclair with 44%. The game's balance is trash, and it is getting worse every patch.
