Service with a Smile Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/688635449342692003>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>573157997
What's your favorite mod?For me it's https://gamebanana.com/sounds/86946
Graves status?
>>573257381Hopefully removed from the game entirely next patch
>>573256451its stuff to build towards as the game goes on, obviously you dont have all of that every matchthis is the average inventory of the average lobby, the next 6.4k would be phantom strike
>>573257763>killwomandotcombased
>>573257381borgor
you don't actually enjoy this game in its current state do you anon?
>>573257381Unshaved
>>573258964I think it's okay.
>>573258964It's MOBA. No matter how shit it is, people will play it.
>>573258964If it didn't have Rift or any other flavor of forced teamfight it would be perfect.
>>573258964I came back after a months long hiatus (last game in early april) and played 5-6 games so far. I've been enjoying my time on it, but I definitely don't like Rift forcing KotH once in a while: macro is usually the thing that separates premades and randos the most and this is purely a macro + team comp check.
>>573258964It’s the best it’s ever been objectively
Silver's massive, stinky, unkempt bush.
Silver is meta, not because she’s popular or good, but because she transcends deadlock, uniting all things with the underpinnings of the universe
>every time I fight mcg they're objective-hitler because they do echo shard wall build with lightning scroll and indomitable>I get mcg on my team>builds full gun>every time I fight paradox they're objective-hitler because they do echo shard grenade builkd>I get paradox on my team>full gun
is it over?
Silver's tiny, pathetic, embarrassing winrate.
>Silver trying to give a drunk blowjob but passes out instead
We need more shotas in this game.
Silver's massive, throbbing, erect losing streak
>>573261410>38k browns still playingoh no no no
>>5732610652deep4me
CC-focused warden is the strongest support in the game right now btw
>>573261667Bro? Lash?
>>573243602>modernThis isn't a modern setting.
>>573261839That’s just tank warden
>>573258964depends on if my team has someone playing shiv or celeste and isnt retarded.
>queue into 4 russian team mates>lose game hardwow
>>573262518stop playing the game when it's 10AM and the huwhite people aren't out of work yet
>>573261774She’s PROVACATIVEshe GETS THE PEOPLE GOINGwhen ever you look at the moon, it’s the same moon that transforms silver, think about her. When you think about her, know that there is another anon out there thinking about her too.And that anon… well he thinks your pretty cool
>>573262205That's what anon said, retard-kun. He's saying the dumpsters are too modern for 1949
How old is Silver the Werewolf, you think?
>>573262285no you focus on move slow and stuns>inb4 DURRR THOSE ARE ALL 6.4k ITEMSall you need is expansion, silence wave and duration to start giving people cancer, rest is just lategame stuff
>>57326274228 years stupid
>>573261307no the best one for me is this>enemy team gets mcniggis>they have a paradox literally swapping people out from under her so she has the space to rape them>they have people popping slowing hexes and rescue beaming her to better positions so she can continue obliterating people>get tired of being raped by hyper cancer 80% dash slows that basically root you in place while doing 800 dps>queue up mcginnis for myself>start ulting>immediately like 4 people collapse on me with mobility options and I'm not allowed use items when I'm ulting so I'm inevitably forced to pull out of ult >can't escape because I'm slow as shit>die>my team is somehow being held up in a 5v2 situation and wind up getting team wiped afterwards>this happens like 5 times in a row and we just lose the gameI must be cursed or something
>>573262591I was reliably told the good people queue in the mornings. Is it all lies...
>>573262796That’s just tank warden
>>573262920yes. there's nobody but russians that play online games in the morning except for maybe the turbo no life neets
>>573262920It’s better in morning if you are playing carry because high variance
>>573258964It is in the worst state it has ever been in, so no, I do not enjoy it and I am actively discouraging people from playing it.
When does lighting scroll ivy stop working?
>>573263256>When does lighting scroll ivy stop working?Two more weeks.
>>573262812>get destroyed by a discord stack abusing stack tactics>try to imitate stack tactics in soloqueue>get raped by both the enemies and your own teamhmmmm how could this be
>>573263741>exact same L>R items every single gameit was smart to hide your rank in the image, seekergawd
>>573263953that statement is wrong, i carry all my games and i'm ritualist but obviously i will hide my info from schizos
>>573257101TUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOWNTUMBLING DOOOOWNNNN
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>573258964genuinely noi've played overwatch ranked a lot more than deadlock recently even though i'm a dotard. it's that grim
why is every deadlock streamer some gay ass 19 year old kid
>>573263741>>573264051Yes, we all know carrying is a meme. I've gone 30-5 one time and we still lost because no amount of hypercarrying is enough to win with 5 retards against 6 normal players.
>>573262518>plays Valve game>WTF THERE ARE RUSSIANS???Should we tell him?
>>573264092I uninstalled because I was getting too addicted and needed to force myself to take a break
>>573263741you have low damage every game and no objective
>>573264092>don't address earlier nerfs>nerf more things>more people leaveWhoa, crazy crazy
>>573264763Has nothing to do with it, no content, no players, simple as
>>573264763>add the most cancerous version of koth ever>make it even more retarded and cancerous>people don't like it stillWOOOOOOW
>>573263316no dude it's eternus the most they could possibly stack to is a duo yet their entire team is playing around them perfectly and when I queue the same thing up I get selfish cunts with no awareness.
>what if we made a moba where we discouraged macro
>>573264092>LOOK THERE'S ONLY 12,000 MATCHES PER DAY ???
>>573265340>get the retards>lose gamebtw low prio queue kelvin don't judge me I don't even want to play this character particularly>10k damage 'tank' shiv>venator quite literally doesn't turn up to a single team fight and his entire objective damage stack is him soloing a lane while 6 people are in our base raping it>sinclair steals 0 impactful ults and misses all of his bolts, 7k damage>grey talon just sits afk spamming birds and again doesn't interact with fights and just steals all my kills>useless spirit bebop consistently hooking tanks into our backline where they proceed to rape him on repeatliterally 5 shit players that flat out REFUSE to take farm on an empty lane and they wind up more broke than the enemy supports.
Silver getting nerfed is what killed the game.
>>5732589642 mid game objectives makes it feel infinitely better imo, people can complain about the specific mechanics but just having an option is a massive improvement
>>573265340hero shooter with extra stepsthey should unironically scrap everything other than the heroes and just make Deadlockerwatchadins
>>573265908troons in shambles
buff Silver NOW i am not asking twice
We need Silver buffsI'm trans btw
>>573264092Christ the ranking system is already a mess I cannot imagine launch or even open beta, imagine 800k+ rookies.The webms posted here are gonna be some crazy shit, saw a guy playing his first match on a controller and didn’t even play the tutorial, was just sprinting straight into the enemy Billy, no parries or ability uses from either, just shoving a gun into each others mouths a foot away with the occasional light melee slap
>>573266130Troons got silver nerfed and killed the game
>>573264364truly grim
>>573265187>>573264763Don't forget about...>'rework' shiv as a pretense for buffing him way too much>remove the rework, keep all the buffs>but don't bother fixing all the F-tier characters like Viscous, Sinclair, etc.>Like half the cast is useless and the other half is braindead overpowered>Don't bother making new models for Warden, Kelvin, Viscous, Sinclair, Yamato>release 6 new heroes, 4 of which make the game worse with their presence and designs alone
>>573261307Is the most viable paradox build really just grenade and wall spam?
>>573265624>losing thousands of players weekly is fine, actually
>>573266905How retarded do you have to be to believe there are only 12,000 games played per day?
>>573266905It totally is, dude, if you just ignore the fact that the game gets worse every single patch, it's in a great state!
>>573264092I decided to try league despite 1k hours in this piece of shit game
>>573266872>ViscousThe link in the OP has him at S tier THOUGH
>>573266872>>Don't bother making new models for Warden, Kelvin, Viscous, Sinclair, Yamatodon't forget that they HAVE the models or at the very fucking least the concept for them done for at least a year and a half now for them as wellthey just don't finish or add them because uhhhhhhhhhhh small indie company making lowly six digit wages. all hands on deck for hlx coming with this new steam machine (except not actually lmfao add another year to the list of "TOTALLY HAPPENING FOR REALSIES THIS TIME"). the lack of leaks is totally because of them kicking ALL of the leakers out of nowhere and not because they haven't got a single fucking thing done ever since coming back from their (hawaii, not holiday mandated) vacations
>>573266872happens when they hire a shitty developer that can only make risk of rain and gay pve modes
>>573266889Paradox was forever ruined my mikeals. Nerfed 100 times consecutively just because one guy autistically min maxed her
When will the devs realise that streamers are not a good or unbiased source for balance suggestions?
>>573264092What vibe balancing and no good matchmaking does.
>>573267247Deadlock's going to go EOS because of the failure of the Steam machine
>>573266974>o-oh well when you put it like that... YEAH IT'S NOT TRUE THOUGH IS IT?? R-RETARDsenpai i have to sit in queue for 6 minutes at a time during peak hours while queueing half the fucking castit really isn't that hard to believe
>>573264364>playing current day OW instead of RivalsDouble grim
>>573267425Just queue as Silver and you'll get matched quickly because no one plays her
For what purpose
>>573267101Well on the positive side, before the actual release of Deadlock you have League of Legends 2 and League of Legends Classic to look forward to. I'm sure if you've played the game a decent amount one of those will be good!
>>573267437i just don't really like how rivals FEELS to play. it's like you're moving through molasses, overwatch has somewhat the same feeling specially compared to deadlock but the instant acceleration from one direction to the other helps a lot. the animations in rivals also don't really help with this, once you notice how stiff the lower half of most characters are you can't unnotice it because of how otherwise extremely well animated the rest of the game is.also i just wanted to try shion ngl. she's pretty fun even though i'm DOGSHIT with her. if rivals ever adds ghost rider they REALLY need to just copy her bike mechanic 1 to 1, specially the feeling, only just let me ride that shit indefinitedly.
>>573267583bro i queue up as vyper i don't think that's the problem
>>573267425nvm this game is dead af
>ban holliday>enemy team gets a holliday every single game and rapes>ban yamato>enemy team gets a yamato every single game and rapes >ban shiv>I get forced to have a shiv on my team every single game and they go 5-17 chasing kills non stop while being lowest networth in the entire lobbybeginning to think the ban system is literally just used to manipulate what to eomm you with
>queue to play McGinnis>get billy instead>didn't even mean to have them on roster, just set to low prio>first match of day and didnt get the hero I wanted>decided to play really passive>so passive, it's borderline throwing>didnt use abilities in lane>only shot players if no creeps were around>lose lane>do passive farming>barely participate in teamfights>still win duels and fights because i'm playing billy>enemy call GG super early>tell them I'm literally not trying hoping they'll continue playing>this rustled their jimmies HARD>start attacking me like i'm a one trick billy main>trying to get through to them that I'm LITERALLY not trying, not even trying to be a dick about it>they get REALLY fucking mad>end the game>"gg">queue for another game>pause to look at my previous game to give commends>see thisHave you ever jostled a team so hard that all 6 report you for comms abuse?I literally wasn't trying, like I genuinely accepted we were going to lose because I was basically throwing and yet still won
>>573264092Sorry, I left Deadlock for Marathon. I also left Marathon 3 weeks ago. And the loop of PvP multiplayer has fried my brain. I struggle to boot up singleplayer games now.
>>573267943only time ive been comms banned is playing against a retard french stack that i was calling sub human faggots all game
>>573267963I played marathon for about a month and while the experience was great, the loops became really boring, especially since at the core of it all, you're just waiting for the weekend to do cryo so you can lose all your shit.Love the setting, Love the soundtrack, but it really does become boring after awhile
>>573267270>look up which heroes hotpoo made>Duncan is the lead developer of the heroes Vyper and Sinclair,[2] and also worked on Calico, Holliday, Mina, Paige, and Victor.[3][4]HE LITERALLY ONLY MADE CANCEROUS DOGSHIT HEROES LMAOEvery single one of these is either obnoxious (Vyper, a skilled Sinclair) or made the game worse by being added (everyone else)
>>573267773Fair, but her bike feels like whack tho. Low speed, lack of acceleration and momentum. Warframe bikes feel better, and Warfame bikes also suck.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8RiDeJQNbV0Shion in general does look great tho, shame she's stuck in OW.
valve needs to add the cookie to silver's model to save the game...................
>>573268201I was okay with the loop because I liked the story you got through the contracts. But then season 2 had the same story and contracts as season 1, so there was nothing left to motivate me.
>>573267308Does Mikaels even play the game anymore? He hasn't posted in a month, that should be a pretty clear indicator that your game is in a bad state when dedicated autists abandon it.>>573267247I know they have new models ready for Grey Talon and Warden at the very least.But yeah Deadlock is not in a good state at all and the devs are only making it worse, somehow, with every single patch.
>>573268578MikaelS got 3 games in a row where the other 2 lanes fed 10 kills before 5 minutes and that mindbroke him into uninstalling again after a month, that was also when the urn was still a heavy melee shitfest under sidelane bridges
>>573268578He didn’t quit because it’s bad, he quit because irl stuff, I think he’s college
>>573267943Doubt theres a way to appeal this but i'm spiteful enough to mass mute my teamates and opponents.If I'm not allowed to communicate because I accidently hurt the feelings of 6 dotards, then no one else is allowed to communicate with me
>>573269367no he literally said he's so fucking bored that hes playing bad because of it
>>573268419i thought the bike felt awkward and bad at first too but it grew on me as i played her more. what the tip tools don't tell you is that you can jump with that shit and that you're encouraged to use it as a quick grenade by jumping, holding it and then launching it rather than a rolling one you'd get from simply stepping off it. once you get used to it it feels great to jump around the map for the 6 or so seconds it lasts. the explosion could use some oomph to it though it's pretty shit sounding and looking outside the tiger mark left by it at the end. it's still slow by deadlock standards but if you go by how fast characters move in overwatch it's one of the fastests out there, maybe i'd feel different if i still mained ball though.i also appreciate that it's not completely static and that doing quick turns is hard on it
someone fucking help me
>>573269367>>573269357Pretty sure I have heard him say multiple times during streams and VODs that he thinks the game is bad.
they need to fire yoshfruad and hotpoo NOW and get someone else if they want to save this game at all
>>573268416i still can't get over him saying "yeah i never really played dota lol" when fucking risk of rain had a literal aghs scepter on itlike at the very least that shows you're aware of it enough to know the cool shit it has. then why copy fucking LOKI for sinclair instead of rubick, which would be infinitely easier to balance? oh wait that's right because it's a LOT easier to develop too innit
>>573269639Probably true, I can’t understand him. Still it’s just that meme where the guy has 10k hours and leaves a negative review
What makes the game so bad right now? Shit MM and heroes being OP or dogshit?
>>573264092This happens every big content patch thoughDo you expect the average person to play this game with no content patches on the horizon?You're only it for the autism or love of the game and that's fine.
>>573269625>spirit apollolol
>>573264092It's because of terrible:>Balance>Urn>MatchmakingNo it's because it's been half a year since the last content update and they said it'll be months until the next one.
>>573269996Low player counts means worse mm, that’s basically it. People will point to various boogeymen like shiv or rift but none of that shit matters, players only return with the big patches
>>573270057csgo and tf2 somehow don't seem to have that problem. neither does dota on a scale as large as deadlock's, anywaysyou know which games did have this problem? that's right. shartifact and blunderlords
>>573270293The difference is that Dota and CSGO have no barriers of entryMost people won't go beyond looking at the front page and shrugging once they see no install now button.
>>573270293CS2, TF2 and Dota all have cosmetics and other player retention shit Deadlock currently lacks beyond the maze of ranked.
>>573269996All of the above.The game's balance is atrocious with more than half the cast being unusable dogshit due to the other portion being broken as fuck. This is compounded with the fact that a fair number of the characters, regardless of how good or strong they are, are just plain obnoxious and not fun to play against. I can list off a dozen right now that just aren't fun to fight.>Celeste, Apollo, Graves, Calico, Holliday, Vindicta, Grey Talon, Victor, Wraith, Doorman, Shiv, HazeThis is further compounded with the dogshit matchmaking that is absolutely guaranteed to be using Engagement Optimized Matchmaking, on top of the ranks being almost entirely meaningless since new players get thrown into mid-Oracle and then proceed to feed their asses off against people that started at a lower rank and had to get good to get to Oracle. This was done intentionally to pad out the ranks and help with the obnoxiously long queue times, but all it has done is reduce the quality of matches and make people burn out on the game.The objectives are also not fun to play around. The game as a whole is just a mess of snowballing, as winning one Rift fight puts your team several thousand souls ahead, and then you are almost guaranteed to get a Walker kill for free with the giga nigga creeps and the fact that most of the enemy team is probably dead after a rift fight. Midboss is a similar case, but it usually leads to a walker, or the patron getting cracked too.Overall, Deadlock is just not in a good state, and the patches since March 6th have only been worse and worse.
>full tank warden, 800 barrier every 10 seconds + radiant regen + lifesteal + silencerinhib and 40% resists + extra barriers from shielding items>do no damage but enemies literally can't kill to the point my teammates have respawned and got back into the fight while i walked circles around the enemy team mindlessly spamming w+m1+flasks>get high player damage in post-match screen not because i actually dealt damage but because i spent the longest amount of time in the fights out of every player in the serverez
>>573269996For me it's the fucking new koth obsession that basically makes the matchmaker rig the game at minute 0 with how it builds the team comps. I'm used to godawful player skill balance and hero balance and and but this another layer of "fuck you" is just too much.For the overall state of the playerbase, it's certainly the content drought.
>>573270559This is basically the only way to play Warden since they keep gutting his gun, despite it being one of the worst guns in the game already with how awful the fire rate and velocity are.
>>573270429>Dota>no barriers of entryi'm sorry but the autistic 20 year moba patchwork design IS the barrier of entry. not only that but i have to yet again bring up player bleed WASN'T an issue for dota during it's closed beta days, in fact its playerbase only grew.as you can clearly see by the old gods new blood update deadlock really doesn't have any trouble getting new people in, the problem is retaining them in the game.
>>573270487>it just needs cosmetic grind broagain tf2 barely gets any of this shit anymore, most of which is complete dogshit, and it still doesn't have this problem. it can't JUST be the cosmetics.
>>573267706Weren't you supposed to have uninstalled Deadlock?
>>573269996it's fvcking stalethe game is just glorified ARAM with low impact play
>>573270759That's because the old gods new blood update was really bad.
>>573269625Why didn't you allow Silver the S+++ tier hero carry you
>>573271335that's my friend and he has like 5 hours in this game
>>573269625Scrap the build and go melee focused.Melee charge/charging fistslifestrikespirit snatchhealing booster/tempoRadiant regenRiposte applies a hefty melee resist debuff and a very lenient stun to get a heavy off.that gives you a free proc of your melee items and spirit steal to use on disengage.put on spirit burn instead of tankbuster for more consistent damage and radiant regen will be proccing off cooldown.you shit out damage and become really annoying to kill
>>573271401>You let him pick Silver as his first characterLet me guess, he's a porn addict and will likely troon out soon?
>>573271728no, he's trying out like all of them
>>573271401>letting a new player play the most op and easy hero in the game
>riposte is a 2.8sec stun with superior duration>with tcd it has a 10sec cooldownthis shit is fucking talon trap tier
>>573272521Don't forget the gorrlion melee resist shred it givesMelee apollo is compy people just don't realise how aids it is yes.
>>573271513till someone counterspells your riposte or just buys reactive barrier/indomitable and then you do nothingjust go gun
>Halfway through 2026>Melee is STILL by far the worst playstyle in the game
>>573272521>>573272627apollo has reduced melee damageyou guys are retarded or low elo
>>573272803same as calico and bebop, and people run melee builds on them
What elo do I have to hit for people to stop running twords me when they have the lighting scroll celeste ball?
>>573272521If you get another duration item you can land 2 heavies in the duration . Magic carpet is probably the easiest but you can also use arcane surge if your good
>>573257101>last OP image deleted Why?
>>573272759And? What's the problem?
>>573273249Some janny really hates Deadlock
>>573273249Jannies are riot shills
>>573272759>only viable way to play melee characters is either with skills that do melee damage so you don't instantly die if you get parried, or with massive stuns that prevent someone from parrying so you don't die instantlyMelee is the worst mechanic in Deadlock next to the retarded movement systems.
>>573273249Ivy is a disgusting tranny
>>573273448Shut the fuck up, man
>>573239215Item's good if you can get it early or stack it up quickly. less fun than veil walker tho
>>573272701Yeah but you still have enough sustain from perfect advances and ripostes comes off cooldown faster than indom.you also have to be cracked to counterspell the riposte and it doesnt even stun apollo.You're not building for a 1v6 fight, you're building to counter carry aka offlaning.Checking who their carry is and denying them as much as humanly possible so they dont get fed.
Hitting someone with melee should disable their jumping and stamina use, heavy melees should disable movement abilities.
>try bomb veil walker bebop for the first time>12-3haha fun, i think it made me realize that hit and run tactics might be my strongest playstylewhat other heroes are good at hit and running like an annoying fucking wasp?
>>573273507Why would you ever buy meme walker in the 3200 shadowweave era?
>>573273695Viscous and pocket
ivy failed to save deadlock in the end
>>573273695Every spirit hero
>>573273504Wosh her belleh
NERF SHIV
>>573273983played a round just now where my teammate shiv could self sustain and murder 4 players one after another in the span of 40 secondslike the other players have to be terrible at the game, sure, but it's still ridiculous
>>573273731when your build is otherwise full on actives. shadow weave also doesnt heal you
>>573274293The heal is pretty small in my experience, I haven’t used it at all since the nerfs
>rebrand into a Dota 2 characterDeadlock niggas got the worst nicknames and team namesActually embarrassing
>>573269424I do the same. Not listening to some retarded faggot cry in lane because he got parried for the 3rd time and I wasn't within immediate dash distance of him to counter parry. Hang all r*ssians.
>>573274517Yeah it's not amazing, but it is fun. It's also less bad on calico cuz she values invis, movespeed, and the veil healing, and also grabs TCD already to improve her active item burst uptime
Thinking on it, I haven't built veil walker since the patch but it should be relatively better cuz its healing more of your total hp pool per activation. Might have to experiment.
how the fuck did yoshi think that shiv change was a good idea if he reverted it the very next day
people stopped playing because they basically said we aint getting any worthwhile shit for another month or two
>>573273731You're better off viewing veil walker as an alternative to fortitude rather than shadow weave. They both give on-map healing and faster rotations, but veil walker lets you heal in combat, turn invisible, and has some spirit power on it.
>>573274723See with calico id pick sw every time because no veils in the tunnels and she can actually make use of the melee bonus
>50k is le badI don’t think I have seen a recent shooter keep that number for month
>>573275456Calico has way better actives to be buying than SW tho, her actives are already locked to arctic, focus lens/curse, eshift, and scourge
Veil Walker vs Shadow Weave?Veil Walker gives good passive stats and a more versatile stealth on a shorter duration but increased move speed, while Shadow Weave gives practically no passive stats but ambush burst damage and lasts longer?
hardstuck ascendant6/eternus1 its like league all over again
>>573275275Sw gives ooc regen too, highest in game actually
>>573275648I am not getting 4 6k actives on calico in a reasonable time
Gonna become an alcoholic to really get into the mind of Silver
>>573276046Kill more people! You're an assassin, for Pete's sake.
>>573275474when it's all mentally ill russians and thirdies it kind of is
>>573267943Bans become easier after your first. If you wanna avoid them then the best thing you can do is queue about 20 street brawls and trade commends, you can just do it while you're banned. Game follows similar rules to dota with the recent games/reports being what matters so you need to move away from the fact that you got spammed.t multi offender
>>573274932Shiv is one of his favorite characters so he disguises buffs as 'reworks'
>>573273297it is a sign of the game being very poorly balanced when there's clearly so many mechanics and thought put into melee only for it to be throw tier at every single opportunity. to put it bluntly: it makes the devs look like retards that don't know how to balance their game, and it makes the game itself duller because it now has one less way to play it.this is made infinitely worse when you realize it'd all be fixed if the devs just added debuff resistance applying to parry stuns again BTW. you could even keep the damage amp even though it has no bussiness being there in the first place. but fuck it i guess we need to do another urn rework!!
>>573277087>>573272759Item update will fix this with an item that rapes parry scripters (causes your next light melee to ignore parry every 10 seconds) and an item which removes the audio cue from heavies
>>573277964how about an item that forces a dildo down your throat every 10 seconds?
>>573278039hero specific items are coming after launch, but I have it on good authority that effect is on the docket for celeste
Deadlock "releases"(lol)Some roblox mod clone is made for itDeadlock playercount instantly craters
This account just dropped 15 kills in my ascendant 1 lobby, thanks Yoshi!
signs that the game is over>your lash/dynamo bought headhunter>anyone buys tankbuster>your apollo goes spirit>your abrams buys any orange item>anyone buys torment pulse without having EE>your geist/bebop goes bomb build>your mina has a name like "i_transheart_BBC">your billy does a heavy melee at any stage of the game>your rem skills pillow first>there is a shiv and/or pocket on the enemy team>there is a warden on your team
>>573279527>wraith buys an eggliterally guaranteed they will sit doing 10% less DPS for the next 30 minutes so they can have an epic bomb shell of extra stats that they'll use for one whole fight
>>573278984>6 raped nigers on my team>6hey... wait a minute....
>>573279527>silver on your team
>>573274932At this point, I think everything needs to be buffed because this shit still isn't balanced and the extremely nerfed characters to go with that is also just boring.The fact we are in a content drought also doesn't help.
>>573279527>your team doesn’t buy ammo because “sliding is enough”
>>573279527tankbuster adds a solid chunk of free damage, whats not good about it on someone like bebop or pocket?
>>573280321Just checked and yup it’s another feels imbalanced retard, the spread between the lowest winter and highest winrate is 9% Take a wild guess for the spread on other games
>warden gets gutted>wraith, mirage, and pocket still allowed to existhate this pick and choose slop patching.
>>573280664They don’t have executes so when the enemy is sub 50% and tb does nothing they will escape, that’s the reasoning. The evidence is comparing to any other t3 spirit item, it only beats out the counter items
>>573279527>>your apollo goes spiritwhat's with apollo spirit hate latelyit's stylish to fly around with his abilities
>>573280978this thread is filled with retarded 3rd worlders that just spew shit
I heard this game was killing itself so I came to see what's going on
>>573280834oh it only does current % health damage? im new i apologize
>>5732806643200 souls and an item slot for:>200~ damage ONLY against full hp targets>once every 14 seconds, no one is at full hp 14 seconds after the fight started so its basically useless after triggering once>non-existent passive stats, +50 hp is all it offers
>game starts>bebop immediately runs to the veils and stands there motionlessjust let us leave games why do you care its an alpha
>>573280321i'm tired of the constant nerf > rework > overbuff cycle that characters get
>>573281140damn yeah i agreeno more tankbuster, already been feeling it doesnt seem to do a lot
I would rather they actually make a serious attempt for once at balancing the current cast of heroes instead of just adding 4 or 5 completely broken heroes again that won't be addressed for months. and all the balancing they've done so far is just adding or subtracting numbers like that is going to address the fundamentally broken or unfun nature of particular hero's kits. the only team serious about this game is the art team everyone else is just putting in the bare minimum and hoping you will just eat up the slop (and you do)
what elo will this abrams build stop working?
>>573281140>200~ damage ONLY against full hp targetswhere are all these heroes with only 2000 health. i would sure like to pay against them
>>573281669no he has a good point600 damage against someone with 6000 health isnt a lot either
>>573280978it’s just genuinely subparhe’s gonna fall off and have minimal contribution lategame, so you just get less of a chance of mm giving you a carry
>>573281613Bologna V
>>573281762so you'd just rather do say... 400 damage to the tank with 50+% spirit resist instead of 1000?
>>573281762At the point in the game where people have 6000hp, they will also have huge hp regen and lifesteal items
why isn't street brawl guardian walker patron 1 and 2lets people max more skills before the end and more time for legendary items
>>573281929yeah lets make it so the enemy team can heal to full in 5 seconds that'll be funfucking retar
>>573281509There really is little point in hardcore balancing when the game is still in feature ship modeAnyways the balancing is genuinely only worse than dota, and just like dota the winrate spread tightens as you filter for higher ranks
>>573281819apollo raping your team into oblivion for the first 20 minutes of the game is still impactful and it's not like he can't just go witchmail and have unlimited 2.5s riposte stuns
>>573281878Against actual tanks with resist I’d rather have shred
>>573282117How is that different from witch mail abrams stun raping your team while actually doing damage too
>>573281379>game starts>calico immediately goes to veil>doesn't shoot their gun once for 2 minutes straight and is like fully expecting me to just wave clear and trade 1v2 and somehow get people low enough for them to swoop in and get the kill>they end the lane with like 800 damage donenot even funny how many times this has happened with different calico players
someone should have told empty dreams tank buster is bad
>2026> drifter shiv celeste and venator op> game is unplayable if they arent on your teamsee you guys next patch i guess
>>573282204gonna be real with you bro counter spell makes abrams a complete joke
>>573282249everyone who plays in dlns are really bad overwatch players. like so bad they couldn't win anything in overwatch
>>573282249Grey talon has an execute
>>573282347counterspell also works on riposte and itani lo sahn, believe it or not
>>573281994and one of the side walkers is harder to siege than the otherwho caresdisable their ziplines
>>573282196how are burst characters suppose to shred enemies? spirit rend is genuinely awful and EE doesnt work for half the spirit characters
>>573282743Torment pulse + EE is core on all spirit heroes to stack EE with
>>573282053>There really is little point in hardcore balancing when the game is still in feature ship modebut isn't this the best time to completely rework kits? if they decided after this shiv was unsalvageable would a closed playtest not be the best time to rebuild the character from scratch? I feel like after 2 years we should have seen more of this but really its just been wraith. you can't tell me they just got everything right the first try
>>573282437What did you win in OW?
>>573282249at one point it made sense cause it was max hp % on an ability that goes on to execute if someones below 22% health or whatever. but now if someones low and you proc tankbuster aren't you just doing like no fucking damage?
>>573282851yeah dude buy torment pulse and EE on doorman. thats the move
>>573282861They have this weird hang up with stuff they view as the characters “identity” like bloodletting has been the issue forever but instead of canning it they rework everything else around it. Same thing with vicious cube
>>573283020Doorman is an utility/cc hero, not damage
>>573282861dota is still doing kit reworks for heroes that are over 20 years old
>>573282743The burst hero should probably dive the squishy and not the tank
>spirit drifter>decay>every mark tick does 5-15% max hp damage per second and stacks escalating exposure, lasts like 15 seconds>teleport, rend to often guarantee an instant kill>shadow weave
>>573283190ah, so you're a retard. i concede
>>573282880nothing but i earn 110k at my job which is more than anyone in dlns
so what's the doorman build that doesn't suck. looking for at least ascendant+ opinions.
>>573283393Movement speed and spirit bells
>>573277087>it is a sign of the game being very poorly balanced when there's clearly so many mechanics and thought put into melee only for it to be throw tier at every single opportunityThe melee mechanics are used often even at eternus though. And the solution most people here seem to have for 'fixing' it is just removing any real interaction and letting you mindlessly melee freely while making full melee builds a viable way to play as if all that is somehow more interesting than what's there or as if melee is clearly intended to be a full playstyle in the first place rather than supplemental.
>>573283468this?
so should i buy torment pulse to stack with EE with Seven? I feel like the radius for torment pulse is too small for his kit
>Taco Bell
>>573283124Bloodletting is the least interesting part of Shiv's kit since it is basically just a better Abrams passive, and far more annoying.>>573281509No dude we gotta add another 6 characters where only one is actually balanced (venator) and the rest are varying degrees of obnoxious cancer.
>>573283391Okay, and?
Melee builds should be about high burst damage and mindgames. Parries should punish even more, but failed parries should go on a longer cooldown. The downside is already that you need to literally be in melee range and you can very easily get caught and ran over.
>>573283594you can only stack EE once per cd, so it's already going up as fast as it can with your ult or ballsit would be better for your DPS to buy trans cooldown to shorten EE's cooldown
>>573283594Seven doesn't want to be at close range, so it's bad on him.>>573283560Melee sucks though. Like there is absolutely nothing interesting about it.
>>573283594TP and EE only works on characters that can get close and not die for long periods of time so only like 3 spirit characters
>>573258964I actually think the rift plus the new urn are a good combination of objectives. I just wish the rift spawned at consistent intervals.
questioncan doorman put his doors right behind the little veil rooms?is veil walker good on him?
>>573283905>mokrill>abums>frank>pepper>shiv>ava>yamatoe>billy>rem>Apollothat's 10
>>573284207the only ones even worth running both is apollo, yamato and calico. the rest you're either wasting souls on EE or wasting souls TP which is a shit item
hey if the eternus ivy guy is here your build rocks, thanks for posting it mate
>>573283594Yes because it’s lightning, you should also be getting capacitor AND lighting scroll
Any good Lash builds? Looking to pick him up again but have not really touched him since silver released
>>573283797It stacks on the target tho so in aoe scenarios you could be building with ball on one target and tp on another(not shilling it btw just saying)
>Not even ten items dedicated to melee>Most of those are part of the same upgrade tree rather than actual dedicated itemsI really don't understand the whining about melee not being a viable playstyle on here acting as if it's obviously supposed to be. It genuinely just comes off like seething over getting parried or because you actually have to use your gun rather than mashing Q as Billy and Abrams.
>Beat shiv abuser>He cries in all chat about his teamWhy is every meta abuser such a bitch.
>>573279918Thankfully I'll never know that feel because I'm the one playing Silver
Watch out EU, I'm gonna queue Stalker Drifter and Bomb Bebop now...
>>573283560>And the solution most people here seem to have for 'fixing' it is just removing any real interaction and letting you mindlessly melee freelyyou really gonna say that while replying to a post specifically mentioning that the only thing needed to make melee viable would be to add back the debuff protection versus the parry stun, the same way it was before? like nigga you'd still be blocking the entire fucking damage AND resetting the parry AND you can still use your mobility to get out of the way of the punch. i feel like so many of you and even the devs forget that in order for melee to work you need to both be a tanky character, build a shitton of greens and mobility, and effectively get yourself in a range no other ability in the game needs, while charging the fucking thing up with a windup. even if you remove parrys in what fucking would would that be considered "letting you mindlessly melee" in a game with this much fucking mobility? are m1 or close range spirit burst builds bad design because of this as well now?>as if melee is clearly intended to be a full playstyle in the first place rather than supplemental.there's absolutely zero reason for melee not to support a full playstyle should one choose to considering there are entire items based around it, giving effects to it, and negating it's damage. the only reason stated over and over as to why this can't happen is "it'd be difficult to implement for lanes" as if the first 10 minutes of a match should dictate both hero kit diversity and overall builds for some fucking reason. it's retarded.
>>573287304Listen chud MELEE is OP! Yes I can double jump and dodge every single heavy melee but its le op okayNice norm image
>>573287697Who was arguing that melee is OP?
They really should change how assists work. I shouldn't be able to get assist just by being near where an enemy dies. I pick up so many trophy stacks by just being around fights sometimes. It's kinda stupid when you think about it. Like what did you do you help kill the enemy, literally nothing.>>573285520Make your own build or run Faith's Lash build that is a solid one.
>>573287978No one but now I will take up the causeMelee is op because it’s one button, you can safely reallocate mental to other stuff because there is nothing to think about. It also is higher dps than m1 in most scenarios(see melee mid boss) and the items that boost your melee damage give you tankiness for free
>build against spirit and it gets completely neutered>build against gun and you go from dying in 0.1s to 0.2s
>>573288373Consider ending the game earlier before the gun characters are allowed to scale.
>play character who has a good ult for stealing Rejuv>my Kelvin freezes it and my ult expires>enemy gets all the rejuvthanks man
>>573257101>Hard-carry 2 games, barely win>Lose 1 game>Negative net MMRI'm not doing this anymore. Where is the unranked full game mode? I am no longer asking.
>>573283794>Parries should punish even more, but failed parries should go on a longer cooldownThat'd make the whole system worseLonger windup for light melees but no stun for getting parried is what you'd need for the system to not feel so irritating for either side
Melees should disable jumping and stamina use.
Melees should knock half a stam off
The whole melee system feels bad because the punishment for getting parried is so much worse than the benefit you get out of even doing it, so there's very little reason to do them
>>573280664I like it a lot on ParadoxExtra 8% on Swap is sweet considering a lot of the time you'll be grabbing high HP people and it also lets Carbine actually do damage late gameNot a high priority buy but it's decent
>>573290357yjk
>>573282117maybe in high eternusgames will always go 40 minutes below that unless turbo rape mm happens
>>573290357and yet players much better than you do choose to engage with itcurious!
>>573290741>the game cant be improved because there is a distribution of skill levelsthey're calling it the most retarded post of all time, sad
>>573288484Why are gun characters allowed to scale AND not be total deadweight for the first 20 minutes?
>>573290945because its a third person shooter, learn to aim faggot
>>573290741by that logic SSSS+ilver is a top tier character and her percieved strongness by the esport shitheads shouldn't have crumbled to complete dust by having one (1) change made to her ult
>>573291145She is still S+++ tier ok much better than C tier heroes like yamato
>>573290741It lets you get some chip damage on the table so you can throw some extra light melees in there or heavy melees if they're stunned but it doesn't change two key issues>getting parried can cause you to get hit for 5-10x what damage you would've dealt>at the same time, not having your own parry timer up also lets them punish you for a ton of damageSo the whole sytem heavily discourages heavy meleeing or parrying unless you know it'll go through, and light melees are so fast they're unreactable. You can't have a true melee hero in a system with a balance of incentives that fucked up
>>573291238Why would you want a true melee hero in a shooter? Its always some gay brain-off demoknight shit for special needs players, like gun graves. It only sort of works in tf2 because no one expects teammates to not be dead weight in that game.
>>573291223I’m glad people see the mediocre that is yamato, she needs a kit rework with her model rework. 2 slashes? Very creative. a buggy af grapple, boring ult. Half the skill in playing her is the esoteric animation cancels. Garbage
>>573291515nta but the whole system should be removed, melee focused character reworked, and melee changed to nothing but non-scaling chip damage, there's no reason for it at all
>>573291515We've got plenty of characters who are meant to stick to people. Especially Billy, they can't tune him to really focus on his melee in a system where getting parried has such an extreme punishment. I don't mean a melee exclusive character, just one who primarily gets kills via melee while also having a gun and abilities
>>573291515>a shooterNobody tell him
>>573291817>the game's systems should be torn out to play like marvel rivals instead
>everyone is constantly crying about gun being op>everyone is constantly crying about spirit being opWhen are they buffing melee? It's melee's turn to be op
>>573291859The whole fun in playing Billy is making the enemy flinch and beating the crap out of them for it.
>>573291991yes they could learn a thing or two from better video gamesthe community seems to think so as well
>>573291515>shooter>can press 4 on certain characters and win any shootout withotu aiming
>>573292161Billy's a pain in the ass to play as or against though because of the melee system>playing as him is annoying because if you get parried once you die>playing against him is annoying because his light melees are unreactableMaking it so he's got more of a windup on his melees but also doesn't get stunned when parried would let you still have that fun without getting cucked when they get lucky and parry your basically 1 frame light melees
>>573290864That's not his point, retard. He's saying they're clearly more beneficial than the other anon is implying if top level players are engaging with the system he says there's no reason to engage with.
>>573292578>>his light melees are unreactableNo one's light melees are reactable what are you talking about
Play basically any other game with a parry system and you'll realize Deadlock has one of the worst parry systems
>>573292101dangerously basedicefrog ship it
>>573291515>like gun gravesThere are anons here that genuinely whine that gun Graves isn't a viable m1gger. /dlg/anons want brain-off shit that requires no mechanical skill.
>>573292705the melee system is unique to deadlock and deadlock has no playerbase as its often criticized for its obtuse and poorly designed systems, these are related, thank you for your attention to this matter
>>573292973Calling it a system is pretty generous, it’s 2 buttons
>>573292973Parries have literally no skill, extremely high reward, and very little risk.
>>573293003what do you expect? these people unironically play league, aiming a camera is already a huge ask
>>573292927Light melees are unreactableBilly is physically capable of light meleeingTherefore, Billy's light melees are unreactableNot a hard concept, anon. I'm sorry I didn't phrase it in the very specific way that would've let you understand what I meant
>it's a wraith smurf episode>it's a rerunchecked this faggot's profile, 40 hours in deadlock but surprisingly has games on his profile... guess this guy actually smurfs on other accounts and uses this one as his main
>>573292101gun is op in low elospirit is op in high elo
>enemy team has shiv>my vindicta doesn't humor the idea of buying dispel or counterspellyeah it is what it is
>>573291515god forbid a white boy likes his hero shooter with any flavour that isn't automatic rifles, revolvers or shitty pellet shotguns. jesus dude you can't be real in asking why people would enjoy different ways of engaging with the game in this fucking genre, are you retarded?
>F2P game loses half its playerbase during the summer when the kiddies arent in skool>no real updates until 2027its over
>>573293318I just checked and can confirm gun is op in high elo
>hero shooter This is a moba
>>573293271You said HIS light melees are unreactable, implying only he had unreactable melees. But I can see why you struggle against him now, thanks.
to that one retard that got uppity about deadlock getting a new influx of players when the old gods new blood update hit: i fucking told you this would happen. remember this next time the cycle repeats with the new big update (coming october at best LMFAOOO) and keep in mind it will only get worse and worse from here on out.
>>573293234I expect nothing. Just reminding him where he is.>aiming a camera is already a huge askReminder anons here were even insisting Graves didn't have much aim assist.
>>573293549i just supported my vindicta into 24-1 but the other 0-15 teammates made us lose anyway
>>573293783Good. I came here to say im quitting until they bury shivniggers again. Fuck this dogshit.
>>573292705there's a clear difference between the pros throwing one or two sneaky punches with zero melee builds being bought and them actively choosing a melee build. it'd be like saying gun's still good in a spirit burst meta because you're still shooting your gun while waiting for cooldowns.
pov you are mnk
>>573292578>walk up to someone while shooting>light swing once>if they dont parry, do it again after a random short delay>if they do parry into thin air, smack them some more for freewooow
>>573293834if by worse you mean the peak will continue to rise with each major update and I will be subject to more and more mongoloid opinions, then yes
>>573294050>continue to risethe playerbase didnt even recover to its stealth launch
>>573294050>the peak will continue to rise with each major updateretardkun... i..........
>try new hero>instantly some completely retarded street brawl fiend swaps into my lane to int for 30 minutes straighteternus and it never changes
>>573294039You haven't played any fighting games if you think that's fun or interesting
>>573294332they should add a grappler and i mean this 100% unironically
>>573294332another great comment from the illustrious fighting game community, thanks a bunch, you can return to your containment thread now
>>573294194>>573294207doomshitter, you were doubting that OGNB was even going to break 60k 6 months agodon't you ever get tired?
>>573294613please take your meds
>>573294332>Jump at someone while they're knocked down>Do your safejump>If they block then do your blockstring>If they DP into you then smack them a bunch for freewooow
reminder
>>573294613He’s brown and a marvel rivals player, I hoped he killed himself last time deadlock passed his pay pig cattle game but I’m not so fortunate
>>573294589This image reeks of nostalgia.Hundred bucks this photo was taken when street fighter 4 came out.Fuck man why did SF6 have to be absolute garbage?
>nah trust me bro it's okay that I int and can't contest mid once and feed 17 deaths because I phantom striked onto other people's kills and last hit them
Why do they keep buffing low skill characters like shiv and nerfing high skill characters like mokrill?
beyond joever
>573295350>bait
I'm beginning to suspect this general is full of seething shitters...
>>573295350Name 5 mo nerfs
>>573294613i'll admit i was wrong about that, yes. funny to see how much i've come to live rent free in your head seeing as i saw you post a few times about me again completely unprompted, while all i've had to do is sit and wait because i know how valve fucking functions and it ain't good at allbut oh well. at least you're starting to see. see ya to do all of this again in 3 to 5 months!
The next major update will bring people back. 150k+ peak screenshot this
Any good paradox guides?
i'm never gonna get better at this fuckass game am i
>>573295725>the next update won't be any bigger, and if I'm wrong, I'll double down on the update after thatI mean sure, eventually you'll be right but that's kind of like betting eventually everyone will be dead. Not very fun or productive. You should work the stock market.
it's literally unplayable now, only a matter who gets shiv
>>573296259Just playing the game normally you can get up to Archon and you don't need to go higher than that if your objective is only having fun.
>silver's winrate in e6 (only rank that matters) is lower than the average>silver has the lowest winrate in the game>she's still S+++ tierHow does she do it?
After playing Holliday for a week straight i've come to the conclusion that in low elo shes a throw pick. She takes WAY to fucking long to get going in a normal game and nobody knows what her ulti does so they just lose teamfights they should win. Because of this shes the most infuriating character i've ever had the displeasure of playing in this fucking game. Literal free kills go to the god damn dogs when you play her because your teammates are drooling mouthbreathersBack to one tricking Vindicta I guess
Add a surrender button for the love of god dude.I just got stuck in a game that was over at the 10 minute mark because Drifter was literally 10/0 and was getting Billy fed by having him follow around the map.I had to endure this chicanery for another 30 FUCKING MINUTES, as our Dynamo refused to ever ulti and just die.Fucking abysmal game design dude im so infuriated because it bumped me back down to Archon from Oracle too
>marvel jeet is backthe circle of life
>>573297291its still fucking stupid to me she does more sustained damage clicking heads than the sniper character
>>573297291Out of curiosity - ever tried Paradox?
>>573296320the thing with games as a live service is that them losing their playerbase or worse, shutting down development, IS an failure on their part. valve has several examples where they've proved those games can sustain themselves even with the barest fucking minimum of development (and i do mean that. like having an intern pick 5 items from the workshop in an afternoon for half a year's worth of content). while still keeping the players coming back and their playerbases stable.at no point has deadlock showcased this particular propierty. it is in a constant bleeding state, sometimes dipping into full blown hemorrhage like we're seeing now. this under any other live service developer wouldn't be a problem, but this is valve, and valve LOATHES doing threadmill work. if they have to put active effort into a project and compete with the rest of the industry they will just drop it, as showncased by blunderlords and shartifact.
>>573297531you can just walk into the enemy and die to lose faster you know.
>>573297612she does INSANE damage, like I can literally do 800 damage per barrel, PLUS 300+ everytime my headshot procs.The problem? She's so ungodly weak and frail in the laning phase that you NEED to coordinate your ulti with your teammate to get fed.Having her in lane with someone who isn't capable of dealing damage with her is basically a lost lane, and if shes in a lane with 2 tanks? It becomes the final mission of Halo Reach.But once she DOES get going shes an unstoppable killing machine.>>573297649I refuse. I saw Holliday and had fun as Holliday but its no fun losing because picking her is throwing my games harder than Vindicta ever did.
>>573297612She's a wild west sharpshooter design ok, it makes sense retard *throws donkey kong barrel and goomba stomps you*
>>573281379As this poster has said, this game is in Alpha. Calm the fuck down doomposters, Deadlock will be fine.
>>573298019THEN WHY DOES THIS GAME FORCE US TO BE RANKEDITS AN ALPHA, RANK MEANS NOTHING EXCEPT IT MEANS SOMETHING BECAUSE ITS INFURIATING TO BE BETTER THAN 90% OF MY RANK AND STILL BE STUCK IN IT BECAUSE ALL YOU NEED TO RANK UP IS A 6 STACK BECAUSE EVERYONE PLAYING IS RETARDEDLOSING GAMES BECAUSE YOUR DYNAMO WON'T ULTI OR CAUSE BILLY KEEPS 1V6ING ISNT FUN IT'S INFURIATING, AND IT'D BE LESS INFURIATING IN A CASUAL MODE BECAUSE ATLEAST I KNOW THERES NO CHANCE OF ME RANKING UP AND PLAYING WITH PEOPLE AT MY SKILL LEVEL
>>573298019nigga literally NOTHING is gonna change between now and launch when it comes to it's active development besides it slowing down to a fucking crawl
i play support and my average ranking on statlocker is 6th, is that bad?
They should bring back four lanes.
>>573298019>this game is in Alpha.oh its this cycle of copecan't fool me faggot, i used to play shitzzard games
>>573298019eos 2027 i can feel it in my bones doombros
>>573297704expecting the game to be abandoned at this point is mental illness
>>573298775WHat about 10 lanes and 40v40?
>>573295413>/v/ replying to any thread that isn't the same bait as yesterday or an excuse to post porn
>>573298775They actually should, with how overtuned movement is in this game you can rotate from one lane to another in like 10-15 seconds.
>>573299014valve's developers are some of the highest paid in the industry, many of which are now independently wealthy with the private stock they own, and by extension are not the type of people to accept basic bitch work needed to keep a game like this alivethere won't be a big announcement "hey we're stopping development" but this game is 100% going to follow tf2's model but accelerated to a 2 year timescale
is afterburn infernus actually dogshit in high elo?
>>573296991When analyzing something, one must have 2 processes, the quantitative and the qualitative. Quantitatively she sucks but qualitatively she’s s+++
>>573299442why wouldnt he be? this game has absurd movement and "avoid fire" is the most basic of mmo mechanics
>>573299014>huh? artifact won't be abandoned. the million dollar tourney is gonna happen any day now, gabe himself said this is the hl2 of card games!! they JUST got done with a full on revamp of the entire game, why would they give up on that??
>>573299641>why wouldnt he be?i have sick aim
>>573299442afterburn is pretty bad and toxic bullets being buffed doesn't helpI also absolutely hate how the builds are>magazine>fire rate>duration>toxic bullets>eefeels like you're begging the shopkeeper to make your hero work instead of just building spirit and dashing
>>573299692>card gameoh you mean like in fallout new vegas? that shit was gay lmao
>>5732992784 lanes would just make the distance between lanes even smaller.the real answer is to make every lane 3v3 and have only left and right lanes.
>>573299692you're right nigga there's no proof they're actively working on the game I think they just gave up
this game is doing the same shit Dota did to me, once you reach a certain skill level it becomes infuriating as your team flounders an easy win.Lack of a surrender button or draft is very quickly turning me off this game because getting stuck in an unwinnable game with a shitty team comp that I had no choice in is asinine.Tell me why we got a Paige, Viscous, Celeste, and Rem and they got Billy, Shiv, Infernus, Drifter, Abrams, and Seven.We just got raped HARD because we only had 2 carries, vs their team comp which is well rounded.
>>573300240sharties (all 10 of them) also thought them coming out and saying "WE'RE NOT GIVING UP!" also meant something back thenit's cute, really
>>573300491okay enjoy losing every time the game updates i guessgood for you
>>573300454the solution, as we always try to tell you mobaniggers, is casual queuecucking players into wasting 50 minutes of their lives or else they lose good-boy-points is the most cringy shit ever thought up by this industryit lets normal people play the game and funnels the few mentally ill people into ranked
>>573300454supports are the weirdest role in this game. Tanks and DPS are basically interchangeable but supports fill this weird niche thing and the problem is that a good team comp can literally win easily without them.I dont even know how many times a Rem has saved me because its so inconsequential in the late game that it basically need not even exist."oh wow dynamo healed me for 200 HP now I can survive like 1 more hit from billy, cool I guess..."
>>573299692Artifact was a game nobody asked for (cardslop)
>>573300884but anon! Yoshi already tried that and couldnt get enough GRAPHS and DATA and STATS because nobody but like 5 people played ranked.So they HAD to force ranked on people so they could get more GRAPHS and STATS and DATA then proceed to throw all that out because they dont actually look at any of that cause if they did maybe the game would be fun and balanced
>>573300767whatever could you mean? i'm on a 6 month winning streak.
>buff character>revert the changes>buff character>revert the changes 2 years later and we are still debating fucking Shiv. Patches literally don't matter anymore
how do i play this bitch? do i have to gitgud at weird walljumps and shit?
>>573301276no, you've just been building up to another loss for 6 monthsthe only win condition for you is complete EoS
>>573301348Shiv will never be balanced because you can't make a character who does quite literally everything be balanced.He has absurd healing/sustain with radiant regen, the knives, and bloodletting, absurd damage with the dashes and knives, absurd mobility with the dash, ult, and shotgun bullshit, and just picking him reduces the entire enemy team's HP by 30% due to the ult.
>>573301421nah she sucks ass. She's a pure glass cannon. Just play Drifter if you wanna play someone whos fun and wont die to a sneeze.
>>573301348it's almost as if inherently fvcked kits are flawed from the start but reworking them and adding new abilities would mean ACTUAL, PROPER work so that's a big no nogame in active development backed by a multibillion dollar company btw>>573300884>casual queue where there's both a surrender option AND people can just quit and join at any timehonestly i'd take it just for the novelty, i played a couple matches a few months ago where i would just quit if i wasn't having any fun and let me tell you it SIGNIFICANTLY boosted how much i enjoyed the game.
>>573301421Yes, she's very squishy so if you don't know how to IAD, wall strafe, wall boost, cornerboost, and edgeboost she won't be fun.
>>573301745cope losscvck us doomchads KEEP ON WINNINGalso you mean 8 to 10 months ackshually. please understand they're all hands on deck for hlx or something idk
>>573301780what if we remove shiv because the game is in fucking alpha and we can do whatever we want
>>573300884This. Reminder that the screaming subhumans you see in every game now was very rare before they forced ranked mode on people
>>573285520Lash has one actual good build with like 2-3 flex slots based on preference. I just use AShires because it has all the items i like to swap between included. Just hit all three of your 4.8k and go rape mid game and create space for your carries. The only real change I've noticed is alch fire being more common than headhunter now since its so much better for objectives.
>>573301780they should just gut bloodletting honestlythere's nothing in shiv's kit that would make you think he's a tank, if anything the guy looks like he should be dancing all around the battlefield but you rarely see this because so much of his mobility is locked behind his gun instead of stamina use like the rest of the cast, and bloodletting lets you facetank shit you should have NO bussiness tanking.the dash, throwing knives, even killing blow fit his theme of looking for the right opportunity and stricking quickly. bloodletting is the odd man out here
>>573300454Eeeermmm... maybe your Rem should've went gun Rem to carry! There is no such thing as bad team comps just bad players.
>>573301990Like a third of the cast could be removed and it would only improve the game. Shiv, Graves, Victor, Mina, Paige, Doorman, Celeste, Apollo, I could keep going but it just bothers me how much wasted potential there is in Deadlock.
>>573302181Put Shiv back at 2 stamina to start, or just remove the stupid free movement tech with the shotgun. Any time a character has free movement like this in a game, they are always OP as fuck.
>>573288484>Stay alive and don't get facerolled like a retard for a guaranteed win Very fun balancing.
>no update until september>this current balance patch for at least another two weeksFuck, now what? Go back to TF2?
Squeezing Graves weird hair ball thingies
>>573302453Imagine if Celeste was tanky as balls and shit out easy damageThat's basically shiv. And he also has an execute
>>573302873those are called buns
>>573302289>struggling against doorman in 2026HOLY SHIT A 75 DAMAGE BELL JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE SAVE ME YOSHIMAN
>>573302925Celeste IS tanky, but Shiv moreso. Celeste is also a disgusting design and should not exist.
>>573303107But she isn't even Swedish!
Any game recommendations before the sale ends?Im getting mighty tired of deadlock and MOBAs in general.Wish that new virtua fighter would come out already.
why is gray talon just invincible half the time he ults
>>573304453Literally just walk up to his position via audio and kill him
>>573304572no i mean like he literally takes 0 damage retard
>>573292231>deadlock: 171k to 58k daily peak>marvel rivals: 644k to 100k daily peak>im supposed to believe marvel rivals is a better game or a good gamelol
I am extremely tired of Rem's nigger ass ult>6 fucking seconds of sleep with items>batshit damage scaling>noclips through fucking everything>slows you down so you can't outrun it>rapes your stamina on wake up so you can't escape>giant fucking aoe>cherry on top, gives the rat damage resistance and fucking unstoppable for some reason so you can't even stop the channel>inb4 bro your counterspell bro?????Shut up, I'm also tired of counterspell being a mandatory item on every player in every match. Just build it in as a basic ability if you want every character to always buy it. Nevermind that it has a cooldown too.
>>573304660>>573304453has been a bug since he released 2 years ago, and no we wont fix it for the next 2 years as well :)*buffs shiv*
>>573305076you're indom? you're unstop?
>>573305283>your unstop?thanks I know im unstoppable in this gamelove you too anon <3
>>573274932It was good, shivtrannies just bitched and complained too hard to get it changed into an overall buff instead of a power neutral change.
>>573305076rem is the weakest hero in the entire game lol he's got no health just use one of the several counter items and click him like 3 times its so easy lmao do seekerfags really struggle with this?
>>573305725>rem is the weakest hero in the entire gameuhm, your silver?
i like shiv because hes basically victor except you dont need any macro lol thanks icefrog
>>573304113I've been playing Bloons TD 6 with some friends who kept asking me to get it, it's quite fun. Besides that I've been emulating classic Fire Emblem games and Berwick Saga.
What do i do if the enemy has drifter AND shiv
Spirit>>573306170Accept the game is over
>play shiv>feed>fuckoff so my lane partner or someone else gets the solo souls>permafight>start racking up kills>get my powerspike>continue to permafight>become the retard that runs at the enemy as they blow their load on me>end 10/17/14No more games!
>>573306093I recently saw the latest rick and morty episode where they're stuck in a hollow earth ecosystem where prisoners are forced to go through the circle of life for eternity and I couldn't stop thinking how that plot would make an addictive game.shame im too dumb to make it
did you guys know ivy tether heal works on victor's ult?? so she gets the healing from iti had no idea
this is a better purchase for most heroes than tankbuster.
>paradox isnt retarded so the get mystic slow first>im raped
>>573307008This is literally just Haze/Wraith: The ItemNo one else buys it
>>573307128sevenwarden
>>573307278In seeker maybe
>>573307008It works so good for Mirage if you put it on mark that is +28 spirit damage on top the multiplier of his mark.
>>573306170Start prayin' but it won't mattah
>>573307008Am I the only one who LOVES this on Drifter's rend. Instead of burst in lane I buy extra spirit then buy power surge later. His 1 has good spirit scaling and you often open with it making use of the firerate
>consider playing deadlock after work>think about how drifter and shiv exist
>>573307635It seems good on paper but other items are just infinitely more useful
>>573307753drifter? that dude's been dogshit for months, what did they even do? Don't remember reading anything substantial.
why does the community constantly complain about 45% wr heroes with cheap counterbuys that completely shut them down (shiv, holliday)meanwhile matchmaking hitlers exist like seven, drifter, ginnis, and lash whom everyone is okay with being easy to play and absurdly strong. At least yamato and pocket takes some skill to pilot and comboit just doesn't make any sense, why are people complaining about characters who lose more often than not
hold on, isn't mirage just a better shiv
>more seeker rank Shiv downplayers talking about "muh win rate"Man, just shut up already. Shiv has always had a bad WR but has also always been retardedly brokenJust because you can't play him well doesn't make the hero with: built in damage negation, built in damage amp, built in extra mobility, and a built in execute is weak
>>573307913You see when I pick an overpowered hero that plays itself my mmr skyrockets and eventually I will play against someone playing a hero that requires counteritems that aren't in my L>R so they kick my shit in and they should therefore be nerfed
>>573307128sinclairvindicky
>>573308223In seeker maybe
>>573264092>check twitter thread>anytime shiv is brought up as a problem people just reply with "you got that opinion from a streamer!"I'm honestly convinced at this point they could bring back on launch shiv and no matter what platform you bring it up on these niggers will still act like he's fine
>>573308184i would post a picture of my rank but it wouldn't mattermeanwhile you could look at abl's streams and see he doesn't win often on shiv. The best shiv player, who's so powerful they're banned from dlns, has a better winrate on a plethora of other characters like mina, calico, drifter, yamato, pocket, among others.maybe shiv just isn't very strong and gets raped by a 1600 slowing sex?
pretty cool how a drifter can go 0/5 and then have highest damage after 15 minutes thats good game design right there
>>573304890rivals hasn't had any real bleedover since the initial drop from launch thoughdeadlock on the other hand can't seem to find a way to not bleed players
>>573308989rivals has eomm so you can get pity wins while deadlock just continously rapes you so you go 0-15
>Graves smokes
>>573309167why the fuck do i get 20 winning/lose streaks back to back on deadlock then
>>573301874what does that even mean
>>573307853Like most patches, they just arbitrarily chose Drifter and Shiv and cranked all of their numbers up to absurd levels.
>>573307753im at this point with the game where it's only fun in my imagination, but then when I actually play I fall asleep farming minions and drinking aoe soup. it doesn't help that i've played the game over all the different versions, so when I think about it fondly I'm actually just thinking about it when it used to be more fun
>>573308989yes yes all good games famously lose 85% of their players
>45min game>40k damage drifterHow retarded do you have to be
what do you do when the enemy has indomitable, counter spell, and unstoppable when you're the lash
>>573310062He was at taco bell
i feel the only time you can get good games is 4pm - 9pm on weekdays when people get off work but don't queue upweekends is just asking to get raped by feeders on your team due to normies playing with friends (aka greifing)
>>573310851thank yoshi and build gunshit like everyone else
>play spirit drifter>not especially strong or weak until escallating exposure>get EE>mark now ticks so hard on single hits and casts that it drains most players down to 30% or less>press 2, press 1, kill, run away>repeat the process>catch wraith last 0.5 second of my mark, kill just outside the safety of his base>"drifter we fucking hate you">several players in both teams say things like wraith shut the fuck up, drifter we love you, drifter is hot etc>cool>15-5 winits shitlo but fun
>>573257381Still holds the title for The Raped
>>573311592hope the matchmaking rework adds a solo only queue.that would probably solve most of the problems alone.
>>573309918nigga when the fuck did i even imply rivals is a good game?
>>573312156fun build until people start buying dispel magic
remove all weird movement tech
>>573312782yeah but doesn't bother me much so far, they use up 3200, an item slot and a 45s cooldown while stalker's mark is on a 9s cooldown
>>573312495yeah issue is not enough players to support it
Didn't check if someone did this edit already so I made this
>>573312867based>BUT THAT SEPARATES THE GOOD FROM TH....dead fucking game bro, no one cares
spend an entire game where I would get stunned by an Ivy, Venator and Mirage (with echo shard tornado). I love being stunned for 10+ seconds in every team fight
Just nerf shiv and stop making someone gigahitler every balance patch and everyone will come back
>>573313157press shift
After playing all the heros mokrill had the highest skill ceiling
>>573313157spend more money on anti-stun
>GIRLY WRATH!
>>573306093>Berwick SagaI wasn't expecting to see Kaga Saga get mentioned in a deadlock thread
>>573312983back when the stat websites could tell if people were group queued, most of my games were all solo players.it's the grouped players that there are not enough of and i don't give a fuck about them, they already have long queue times cause a lot of them are fucking stupid enough to queue with massive rank gaps between their players.
>>573297291>>573297871The ult can be frustrating in that regard but otherwise, as a Vindicta main that also just picked her up, I disagree. As soon as I unlock crackshot and get extra charge I feel strong even in lane.
>>573312514the internet has brain rotted everyone into thinking the world is only black and white when many things can be true or false at the same timesad
>>573297291she's hitler in low elo you just fucking kill the enemy team from midair you putz nobodys gonna stop you from bouncing around
>want to try some odd build out in non-ranked setting>only option is some RNG dogshit gamemode>there's always some tranny playing celeste nuking everything from behind a wall without ever needing to aim>fuck it>queue ranked>die to shiv hardfocusing meyeah im done, enjoy your dogshit game faggots, goodbye forever
>haze ends the game 20-1-14>i died to haze a grand total of once>i took 4000 damage from haze in the damage breakdowns>meanwhile 3 of my teammates took 13.7k, 14.5k, and 15.1k it sucks that in the "just buy X" equation it doesn't factor in retards on your team who won't do the same
>>573315704>caring about your rank in an unreleased, closed alpha, invite-only gameGet a grip dude
>>573315923There is never going to be a rank reset and your rank will carry over to full release just like every valve game before this one so you might as well care about it
>>573279527Pillow Nuke is a good build howeverbeit.
>>573316027you have minimum 4 months to recover whatever rank you lose trying something new out, just unclench for a couple of hours and stop being so risk-averse about a game ranking thats so inaccurate it may as well be hallucinated by an LLM
>>573298593no. it means you're like middle of the pack when you're
>>573306740wait until you find out geist does the same thing for ivy
>>573306740DUPLICATED healing, anon
>>573307347seven absolutely buys surge of power lol
Lacing Graves cigs with LSD and watch her trip balls throughout the match
I wish my friends played this game, solo's isn't fun because you simply don't have enough agency as a solo so its unrewarding or interesting
>last patch>popular consensus is that shiv is weak and dogshit, yoshi hates him>this patch>shiv is 10% more effective>popular consensus is that shiv is an unkillable god, yoshi is a shiv mainexplain this
>>573317975Retard-kun... You can't lace a cigarette with acid to make someone trip balls because the smoke would destroy the drug before it could even get to the bloodstream
>grey talon has 1 stack 30 minutes in>find out he's primarily using his ult as an interrupt.GET ME OUT OF SEEKER HELL HOLY FUCK!!!!
I wish this game had a turbomode because farming for 35 minutes is legitimately mind numbing
>Shit on viscous/dox so hard in lane it leads to a snowball that eats into every other lane>Both of them rq at 12 minsI get it. I get why people play this fat fuck.
>>573318653It's called Rem
>>573318563Its why I'm using Super LSD
what should I do with a 48% winrate after 3000 games
>>573319241Start watching a ton of guides
>>573258964i haven't played since it was a 4 lane game, the graphics weren't cel shaded and brawl didn't exist so i'm having a marathon tier blast in brawl, i forgot how much i loooooove paradox. i tried a bot match and didn't realize there were multiple tabs for the shop until it was almost over sooo no real games til the weekend at the earliest
>>573318461Shiv mains are whiny fags, any time he isn't objectively overtuned they act like he's unplayable.
>>573318403>i need an unfair advantage to win
>>573318461>>popular consensus is that shiv is weak and dogshit, yoshi hates himnigga WHO was saying this shit
I like using the "no" command as mina>"mmmmnyo"
>>573320467emissary retards in this thread
Is this the optimal Ivy build?
>>573320467Shiv players.
>want to go to rift fight because i have ult>wave is crashing into side walker with one enemy gamer missing (split pushing)>everyone else also has ult so they're all running to the fight>have to be the one to go take care of side walker and scare off the split pusher>watch my team lose the 5v5how do i counter this, best i was able to do was trade walker for walker afterwards but it didn't really feel worth it
The general is so dead lately
>>573322331no
>>573257381needs a stirrups mod
>>573320525every time she says thank you i get a little chub
>>573322793Knowing the patch is months away now deflated most people
>>573318403its every moba ever, the entire genre was a mistake>>573320442>playing as a team in a team-game is cheatingsmartest brown person award
>play shitlock>lose 6 in a row>ragequit from the last>hop on counter trash 2>lose 3 games, at least two had blatant cheaters, naturally>hop back on shitlock>niggers start roleplaying and chatting all game, lose againi might just uninstall every fucking competitive game from my computer. i'm not getting better at any of them and i'm certainly not having an ounce of fucking fun. what's the point of it all
>>573324150>i might just uninstall every fucking competitive game from my computer.you should, im not joking, if you're not having fun just stop, best decision i ever made quitting overwatch in season 5 because blizzard was too fucking stupid to balance against tanks and niggerfist>what's the point of it allfor compnigger games? to keep you in the gameplay loop so you buy premium cosmetics or interact further with the brand like paying to, or talking about, the league movie, its a hamster wheel for autistic goy
Hiya everyone! Rem here! it's time for your Deadlock fact of the day! Here it comes!>Fact: Mina Ha is character who is an Asian woman in Deadlock, yet she is usually cosplayed by white men in their 30s who not only believe they are women, but have also undergone surgeries to remove their genitals as well as take chemicals to castrate themselves.I..I don't like that fact very much. C..c..can I go home now? >No Rem. Not until the ritual is over.*sobbing Rem sounds*
>>573324150Pick up fighting games so retarded niggers can't drag you down. Caveat, every loss is your own fault which might actually make you even more upset.
>>57332454595% of losses are your fault in deadlock too. are you saying that if eido was your roomate and he swapped seats with you that he couldn't carry nearly all of your games?
>>573324515Rem who is teaching you these facts
>>573324713i don't think eido has a nigga playing drifter going 0/15 in his games against a stacked team
>>573324819the thing is eido would recognize the drifter is the weak link and play closer to the drifter, not only getting kills himself but preventing the drifter from dying
>>573324713Every single team game ever made sticks you in a match where the outcome is heavily influenced by random people you'll never play with again and you've been conned into believing the "you can carry every game if you're good enough" meme. In initiate, sure, but in ascendant+ lobbies eido would barely hit a 75% winrate because there's just too much fucking noise and the enemy team is probably competent enough to prevent you from becoming a server admin.
>>573324509my frens are on vacation and i got bored of singleplayer minecraft, my retarded ass thought wow maybe a couple games of deadlock or cs2 would cheer me up. boy was i wrong, now i wish i chose boredom over this shitworst part is every time this happens i remember i'm just genuinely ass at videogames
>>573324889no he fucking wouldn't lmao
>>573324713"your fault" is the operative phrase here, not being one of the best players in the game with thousands of hours and being capable of putting an entire team on your back and 1v6ing the enemy isn't "your fault". you can play perfectly fine for your skill level and still lose because playing well isn't enough when 4 people on your team are just running it down or using a shitty cheese build. eido could probably carry an archon team with a griefing calico who does 2k damage in lane then afks for the entire rest of the game or an oracle team with 2 leavers, but you not being able to do that doesn't mean it's your fault that you lost those games. that's retarded
>>573324515Another Rem fact: all Silver cosplayers are biologically female and have fat asses
>>573325436post proof
>>573325068play peggle until your frens get backthings will get better fren
>>573325060thats why you play pve games man. even with random retards you can carry in games like deep rock and vermintide 2
>>573325483Just look up Deadlock Silver cosplay, anon
>>5733250602 things to keep yourself sane>turn off average match rank>if you got key player, count it as a winYou *do* get key player when you lose, right anon?
>>573324889>>573324713idk who your efaggot is but im so fucking sick of this bullshit, there are dozens of videos of "pros" who have accounts that start in the lowest rank possible and STRUGGLE to get back up, its a giant grind for them and they all end up admiting elo hell is something you CAN climb out of if you play way about the average skill for the rank, but is indeed realit has nothing to do with the fucking game even, its just normal mode statistics and probability theory, the only people who disagree with this are mentally retarded and failed math in college
I need more cute mina content immediately
>>573325725wrong reply im retardedmeant for >>573325068
>losing streak>shiv, celeste and drifter anti fun heroes rn>fuck it time for a break>uninstall>leave go do a bunch of things and come back>meh i could go for some deadlo-WHAT FUCKING SPELL DOES THAT GAME HAVE OVER ME I DONT GET IT on the plus side i decided to play a single player game instead
>>573325536holy shit it's on sale on steam for 1 buckarinothanks anon
>>573325927I've been playing video games since I was basically a toddler and this is the first game I actively have to ban myself from playing sometimes if I want to get stuff doneI have no idea why
I've noticed ever since I've been sticking to one game a day no matter what I've been wracking up more wins than losses. It's very interesting to observe because my teammates I get are also very communicative so we end up winning. Compared to when I was spamming games I would get nothing but mutes and retarded feeders. But now I get a Billy telling the team he messed up and he'll play the next fight better, and what happens.. he does. I swear this games matchmaking is some heinous shit going on like the first game of the day is a free hit of dopamine so you queue up another one before it sends you into rape valley.
holy pogggg reddit was right.......you can come back!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1cdcsNhSPY
>>573322616does anyone have advice for this i want to do better at the video game
>>573325725>>573325925those are only fun with friends, reallyand SP games get a little boring after a few hours and i just naturally gravitate towards comp games... comp games permanently damaged my mental, it's not even funny
>>573325725pve games are for casuals who just want to chill out which is completely fine. but for most people who play pvp games they'll be super boring and pose little to no challenge
>>573273312sovl
>>573326503>vermintide 2>chill outuhhh maybe after 1000 hours sure lmao
>>573324515So is REM saying the fact or just announcing it? This post sucks balls
>>573326363Plan further ahead, rift spawns happen every 7+/-1 minutes so you have a decent idea of when it'll pop, if you have your waves pushed preemptively you've got a decent chance of being ready.
>>573326859its the perfect chill out game unless you are one of those psychopaths that can only play the game with a full stack on the hardest difficulty with the best talents and the best weapons
>>573327118>unless you are one of those psychopaths that can only play the game with a full stack on the hardest difficulty with the best talents and the best weaponsyeah, twitch 200% or moddedits fun
>>573322616>>573326363I changed my priorities a bit to treat joining neutral fights as the most important objective and it feels like it's paying offIf you joined the rift fight you're increasing a chance you get rift's souls + a wipe on those 5 enemies, which would be overall more valuable than the side walker
>>573324713lmfao no, the majority of my deaths are caused by 3 second lag compensation>round a corner, completely safe, no one is near me anymore>bebop hook sound>a hand comes through the wall next to me>i fly through 3 walls from near my walker over to mid bridge>dead
>>573327456the hooks in this game for all heros are horrendous, its worse than roadhog 1.0
has anyone else been preferring warp stone over majestic leap on pocket, i just think it provides better in fight mobility for the same priceis it worth it to buy both or am i sacrificing too much damage/active slots with both greens
why is it always the vyper players that feed/grief on my team?
>>573324545>Caveat, every loss is your own fault which might actually make you even more upset.Then you just blame the devs for their dogshit character designs and mechanics that let some retard scam wins off of you.
>>573328053>has anyone else been preferring warp stone over majestic leap on pocketno im not gay and dont play buttpocketyeah its a loss of dmg or resist elsewhere to get both but there's nothing wrong with mobility if its working for you
>>573328390>playing mina on brawl>some vyper gets super pissed at me calling me a faggot before round starts>ask what his issue is>he thinks im the same mina from the last game (must be new)>try to explain im not and to check the steam name>doesnt understand, afks the match>we lose 4/5 because the other team also was kinda retardedvery interesting game mode valve, thank you
>>573325916>there are dozens of videos of "pros" who have accounts that start in the lowest rank possible and STRUGGLE to get back upI don't know about Deadlock in particular but people on this site always say this and yet I've never seen anybody post an example for any game. Meanwhile you can easily find videos of people literally speedrunning starting in the lowest rank and solo queuing to top 500 in other games.
>>573328390close range shooter character, encourages new players to literally just run up to their opponents and try to shoot them in the face (and usually die in the process)
>>573327074rem is the mascot for the show. he introduces the show, and then the patron announces the fact. the patron also is forcing rem to participate in his fact show
>>573328448>picrelname the character, /dlg/
>>573329001shiv
>>573317265since they nerfed his gun i've been buying Toxic bullets instead
>>573329001I can literally hear billy saying this
>>573328448>>573329001>Graves>Celeste>Haze
>>573329001I don't think there's anything in Deadlock that truly compares. Maybe Graves when she's actually good.
seven is my fav character specifically because he is the hardest counter for healing, he can buy healbane, toxic, spirit burn, crippling headshot, and even inhib if needed
>>573329001Shiv
Why are there so many items that dont have tier 3 or 4 upgrades?
>>573330049unfinished game
>>573330049most of the time it's because they're already good enough and making them have an upgrade would just give you an item good for early mid and late game without having to think about your buildbut it's also part of their cost, slowing hex is better than vortex web if all you want is to disable one hero's movement, supressor is cheaper than your alternatives, and for that you pay with a slot giving you less investment than it could've
>>573287697>>573287304>undertrannieskys now
>>573324889>eido would recognize the drifter is the weak link and play closer to the drifter
>>573329001HazeWraithMirageGravesWarden
>>573257101>rank deteriorated into obscurus >playing against archons againTime to play meme shit and have fun
>>573273249Furry "fandom" goes on >>>/trash/
is it smurfing to queue matchmaking after 100 hours in bot matches
do they have two key players because one of them is actually mvp but because they've lost bebop got the mvp?
>>573322793No real content for ages and there's a big Dota event on, might as well play the best ASSFAGGOTS while I wait for this shooter moba slop to do something interesting.
>>573328053Funny thing in games like this is characters with movement in their basic set benefit the most for even more so you can go in and out
>>573332952Literally me. I hadn't played Dota in half a year and am now back in the game experiencing Dota lore kino with talking squirrel. Deadlock meanwhile is progressing at a fucking snail's pace. Valve are so fucking lazy it's insane.
>>573332880That's adorable. But no, smurfing is intentionally making an alternate account to play at a lower rank than you should be. A new player getting placed for the first time can't be smurfing no matter how good they are at the game.
>>573332952does deadlock have a big overlap with dota? I've never played dota so I wouldn't know
>>573332952>dotain that game literally everyone is graves
>>573329001Ivy
>>573333354Deadlock is made by the guy who created and managed Dota for 15 years from 2006 to 2021.>B-BUT GUINSOOThe Dota he made was nothing more than smashing together all the popular ASSFAGGOTS that were on Warcraft 3 and was a horrible mess. It wasn't until Icefrog took over that the game actually became something that people played seriously.If you play both games you can easily join Deadlock and 'Leonardo Dicaprio pointing' 90% of the abilities/items.Pocket for example is nearly a 1-1 port of a Dota hero Puck, except posessing the (old) ultimate of a different hero Venomancer.Focus Lens is just Orchid Malevolence.
>>573293153Very seeker take. Whiffing a parry at decent elo gets your face mashed in with free melees.
>>573307347>doesn't know about barrier wardenreal seeker outed himself kek
Why do the retard devs insist and letting Wraith keep over overtuned as fuck power? "Oh she's a Carry, she's weak early" No the fuck she isn't, all she has to do is stack 8 cards and spam them for the most free damage possible in lane.
>>573334571>rapid recharge wraithBuy rusted barrel to slow down her card generating and enchanter's emblem to tank the cards for 2400 total (or any other spirit resist that you prefer)
ehhe
>>573335038IVY SPOTTEDC U T E
>hop on decayed smurf to practice shiv>keep getting drifter in archon lobbies>people are so retarded they dont do boss and run down blue walker even though im pinging boss >5 enemies were dead and they just stay mid to get the final walker until they die
Got accused of auto parry because this paradox just spammed heavy meleeLolAlso Silver is useless
>>573335987bosses are a distraction, as is urn and riftsimply push lane for the entire game
when are we getting real occult creatures instead of tumblrshit
>>573336325Thanks for your input 424
>recent winrate: 52%sure does not fucking feel like itfeels closer to 40%
Make the map bigger
>>573336707newfriends dont remember
Is there any reason why the teleporters can't just be instant?
>>573301421you need to know basic movement. at least air strafing and chaining wall bounces. otherwise she's pretty straight forward. You want to use waves and jungle to heal, healing at the fountain is a bad sign
You ever have a game where you genuinely can't tell if you were the one playing like a retard or if your team was actually just consistently leaving you out to dry?
>550 hours>still oracleso i kill myself right
>>573258964i'd rather shiv not exist right now but otherwise the game is way better than it was a year ago.the 6 heroes update aged well and old gods, new blood was overall an improvement.i will say im a bit iffy on rift since it feels like its just free souls and pressure for the already winning team and doesn't really help with the already questionable comeback mechanics in place.
>>573270293TF2 is literally dead, 99% of its playerbase is just bots.CSGO and dota will always have thousands of autistic east europeans playing regardless of whether the games in the shitter or not.
>>573339220depends how seriously you take the game. i have around 600 games played, climbed from ritualist to oracle 3, got a big loss streak which deranked to archon 1, started doing troll builds -> deranked to emissary, now back in archon and climbing carefree again. yeah 600 games in probably should be ascendant minimum, if i tryharded, but i play for fun so it's all good
>Enemy team has a coordinated five stack versus your solo queue brigade
>>573340126Your only way out of this is to find the friend that just started playing the game and rape him until the whole team's morale is killed
>>573339220Yes. I have 1.4k and dropped back into Archon recently and never even made it to Phantom.
>Team is posturing around the enemy team looking ready for a fight>Get in and lasso someone as Holliday>Turn around>My entire team is gone
>>573340664>hero-specific binds>bind ping to lasso buttonit's not gonna do shit but why not
How do I make bombop work?>hurr build gunBomb is way more fun. I play games for fun btw.
>peaked phantom 5 pre-first urn koth update>now deranked to emissary 6AAAAAAAAAAAA I HATE KOTH I HATE KOTH I HATE AOESLOP
>>573341423>I HATE KOTHGreat show, fuck you>I HATE AOESLOPThe RTS genre owes its roots to AoE, thus so does Dota by proxy, and so does Deadlock. Show some fucking respect
buying unstoppable every single game since valve decided to give nearly every hero at least one obnoxious cc ability
>>573341215Go spirit/melee hybrid, pure bomb is bad
yoshi is really gonna let the game be like this until september isn't he..
>>573342214No there'll be 2-3 balance patches that shuffle around which heroes are rapists and rape victims.
we got marvel rivals 2 before deadlock open beta xisters.....
In here, I am KING
>>573342214the game is literally the best it has EVER been. maybe one or two heroes are a little strong but it's really nothing that needs immediate attention. I'm sick of you seeker shitters acting like the game balance is so terrible. its a play test and its FREE. shut the fuck up and play the game
>>573342735yeah but it's boring the heroes come out so slow valve is just too lazy to make games in this modern environment
>>573342735
seeing this icon in an ally's inventory is the stuff of nightmares
>>573344000
>>573344000I go afk if I see this or any of the following: decay, titanic mag, sharpshooter, return fire, cheat death, fury trance, lightning scroll, express shot, spirit rend
>>573344051>echo shart
>>573344051>Useless on your team>20 million stacks and never misses a hook on the enemy team
*makes you dash and slide**still hits you outside the aoe circle*
>>573344000>nooo you cant do 350 pure damage stooooop
>joechuck video detailing the tech nobody but me knewJesus, I'm fucking ruined veil walker lets you not get hit by storm cloud if you are invisible
>>573344636I've noticed that most of the time the aoe circle is just wrong. it'll be completely off from the actual projectile and thus the actual aoe so you get hit even though you really were outside of the circle. its been this way for two years they know about it they just don't care just try to ignore it
>>573345416Joeschmuck and his consequences have been a disaster for the Deadlock race.
im new to the game and i wanna get better, i play paige because i play support in league and they feel kind of like that (i play graves too because shes cute) what are some things you recommend i look at or practice to get better? im horrific at aiming so "caster" type characters are probably better for me but so far i feel like dead weight and i just buy utility like actives and the debuff on spirit damage stuff
>>573344000i bought this recently because i had unspent souls before going to the fight i felt kind of dirty
>>573346156onetrick pocket until oracledrop into the deep end of the pool until you know how to houdini out of impossible situations using movement and his iframe
>loli tranime image>''i play paige''yep, tranny
are we allowed to complain about how unfun it is to fight against mcg and her army of turrets yet or do we have to wait until her damage gets buffed by 0.5% and some eceleb says she's broken now
>>573346576the turrets have like 300 hp, just fucking shoot them.
>>573346576turrets are too tanky for their spammability, either make them even tankier but nuke the cooldown so you have to really think about where you're gonna drop them, or reduce their hp and keep the non-existent cooldown
>>573346887oops forgot to add that they have 80% damage resistance for the first 6 seconds, and then a permanent 35% spirit and melee resist so only m1ggers are allowed to kill them
>>573346887ok so we're waiting for eceleb approval got it
>>573325916I'm an Eternus player, not even E6, and I can start a smurf account and it's Eternus in under 100 games. Why do you make shit up?
>>573347035tell your "m1gger" to buy ricochet if mcginnis is actually a problem.
>>573347159>VenatorBoosted.
>>573336229She's not useless. She makes me happy. That constitutes a use.
>>573347687>weakest hero in the game>boosted
>>573347159>if I make a smurf account and have my rank variance + smurf detection kick into overdrive my rank goes up fasteryou dont say
Fuck gunslop. Uninstalled.
>>573347687>akshually its literally impossible to rank up! even pros cant do it!>random shmuck can do it>NO IT DOESNT COUNT WITH YOUR HEROwell that isn't really what it's about is it retard?
>>573347840>fuck (weakest way to build heroes)lol. gun is only good post 30 minutes, spirit dominates up until then. just end the game faster dumbass spirit is basically a free win
Why is everyone missing an arm
>>573347802>>573347852I accept your concession.
>>573347802>press 2 and Q for free kill>weak
>>573347970>2 and Q>this nigga still thinks melee venator is the way to play himsigns you are low elo
>>573347970>>573348151Lol
Yeah I'm just done with Silver
>entire enemy team is at the rift and we're 5 there except for haze>we lose the fight>check map>haze is farming jungle instead of splitpushing the green walker (who has a wave on it at the moment)Tales from the Emissary...Can I get reporting for using pause in such situations to get the attention of some drooling retards? Had I paused during the fight to take this retard hostage maybe we'd have gotten a walker out of it...
>>573349421>no rebuttal against 3x heavy melee spamseeker moment
Love gunkino. Installed.
>>573349421>lifestrike>larp burst>fucking REFRESHERYou threw hard
>>573349462No you can't report someone for not playing the game in the streamer approved way.
>Low in-game volume, loud music>Lane phase is over, some faggot says something, sounds like whining, complaining, drones on, other fags join in, i can't tell really>Compulsively turn my mic on: "What is this nigger saying">Retards gasping at the raycims>Keep playing for 30 minutes and win gameThank (you) for reading my blog.
>>573349932No I meant can I get reported because I paused the game to give the team's designated retard a pep talk.
>>573349462You can get reported for anything, very much doubt it'll lead to a punishment though.
>>573349947banned
>>573349462Unironically it's a good idea to pause in pivotal moments like after a teamwipe pause and tell them to go boss. It's a free MMR hack
>>573349462nothing will happen if you're not using the pause to spam NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER or threatening yoshit and gaben like a schizo. a sensible pep talk won't get you in trouble, this isn't a riot/blizzard game
>>573350151You can say the niggerword in voice pretty sure that's not recorded and even in text it's hardly enforced, I do it every few matches or so anyway.
Anyone know where I can find some free coaching?
>>573349421Yeah the hero is straight up trash
>>573350650Some of those community tournaments like the ones Deathy runs have free coaching for teams that sign up iirc
>>573349421>refresher>vamp burst>filenameyeah i'd say that's an average "silver is le unplayable" poster
>>573350650Coaching is useless unless you're like hardstuck a6 and have some critical issue that needs tutoringJust keep playing the game and learning.
>there's already a competitive stat-site that assigns you a score and rank on a pre-beta game where there's no competitive matchmakingCompetitive players and "le just tracking stats" faggots need to be executed. The game lost its charm the moment the competitive scene(D-listers who never made it big in serious games) took over.
>>573351886And when there wasn't ranked there was a hidden MMR that basically functioned the sameAnd these ranks will carry over to full release
>Hop in a few matches after not playing awhile>Nothing changed, get multiple people on my team who got 0-8-0>Its not even about winning or losing, its literally just not even a game at that point its a waiting room simulator>hop off and play Abiotic
>>573351604>>573349890Vamp was definitely a throw I should've gone ethereal shift insteadRefresher legitimately carried the whole game and I would not have performed without it
>>573325916im doing exactly this today because i want to play silver and i cant do it on my main because i eat shit on her. i have an account at arcanist that i got from my brother which is why the acc's rank isnt seeded by my hwid. im gonna post results later today when i get home
Did they finally make M1 heroes powerful and gun items worthwhile? I've been waiting to reinstall after spiritslop
What think about reverb on victor aura?
>>573318668this has nothing to do with mo and krill
>>573353428M1 is not for retards
>>573351886bro why don;'t you just... not look at the site if it bothers you so much? no one is forcing you to think about your stats. you have issues.
>>573354002I accept your concession.
>>573353603it does no damage>>573354030what does that mean
No matter what I buy on Bebop, I always feel squishy and weak. How the fuck are you supposed to play this guy? I'm starting to believe I should go full tank and max the hook instead of falling for the bomb stacks meme.
>>573354179you're supposed to build gun
>>573354179>I'm starting to believe I should go full tank and max the hook instead of falling for the bomb stacks memeThe longer you live the more bombs you can place simple mathematics
> no one is forcing you to think about your stats.That's literally what everyone who uses stat trackers do, they will bring it up every fucking game.
>>573354513ok and?
>>573354513nta but how does it affect you personally? where is the anger coming from? you have not once clearly stated how its harming you and your enjoyment of the game
>>573354179here you go babe, just copy this
>>573354179every bop build got raped to shit, all you can do now is be a hookbot, build useful utility stuff and pray that your team does something
>>573355021Every 2-3 games some retard is arguing with their lane partner about them being a [rank] peaker and going on about their stats and how they're hardstuck.
Three Calico top build have Trophy Collector as non-optional purchases during laning phase. Is the item actually good now or should I go Veil Walker or Shadow Weave for roam and gank potential?
>>573355489>following top buildsgoycattle moment, just think for yourself
>>573355605I'm getting back into the groove I haven't played in 4 months.
I'm a shooter player, not a dumb MOBA playerI select Vindicta, put the gay shop stuff on the auto build thing, get my AWP headshots and shoot at people until the round is over.
>>573355489Sorry, lemme tell you the secret top build:Tankbuster, Fury Trance, and Lightning Scroll. You buy nothing else, just those three. Thank me later.
>>573355943Mmmmh I don't habeeb it...
can I get a rundown on the "tankbuster is bad" meme? I don't visit the general much these days
>>573356408No idea either, I also visit occasionally. Possibly one of the forced memes as the general descends into insanity waiting for the update (better than when people were trying to meme le shitver upplaying/downplaying meme)
>>573356408>>573356706if you are white with a triple digit IQ (applies to neither of you) then you will immediately understand why the item is bad just by reading what it does and seeing the trigger conditions
>>573355489Calico gets into enough fights that she stacks it pretty much every game. Do tunnel box runs so she can get it early, too
>>573356856The point isn't that it's a bad item, it's that people keep bringing it up as if it wasn't common knowledge they gutted it after making it %current HP and not %max HP
You didn't play the game if you didn't find the helper break room in the lobby or spawned the golden bunny
>>573307371I don’t like it for mirage because it’s too much fire rate. The lowest max mark cd you can get is 5.7s with transcendent and enchanters and his base mag dumping in 5.9s. Pretty much any fire rate item needs to be paired with ammo otherwise continuous fire results in a reload before max(adding 2s)Besides that he has decent scaling on the other abilities too
>>573344268Half of those are good thobeit
god this matchmakign is so asseveryone has like 5 deaths on my team but this one guy has 14 deaths even without split pushing he just dies first time every fucking fight and has 0 defensives i dont get it how are people still this retardedif 2-3 people can hold against their entire team with rejuvs, why couldnt you stay in the background instead of rushing in 1v6 when you know you're gonna die
why does this even exist? let me report these retards with 50 iq
>>573357089The ecelebs forgot it sucked and even night shift had a night where it was overbought(I think that’s what started the meme)
>>573358348>mass reporting people who don't perform as well as you want them tololbab...
>>573356408Basically it’s a stat pad item that doesn’t translate to winrateThere is pretty deep lore on this but that’s the qrd
>>573346156Friend code?And do you have mic?
>>573358463its up to your system to act on the reports, not police me for reporting
>>573334663>your next 5 lane partners, sir.
>>573358629what should you even buy then its like the only burst damage spirit item in the game
>>573358707You're missing the point, you're not supposed to report someone who played badly no matter how shit you think they played or how overpowered they character is. That's why you're getting restricted.
It's time for another thrilling episode of "my m1gger can't fucking aim"
>>573358827Cooldown/duration/expansion is the big 3 but pretty much every t3 spirit item is better. I think it’s still ok if you have an execute or are a support paired with a hero who needs stacks like gt/drifter
>>573359093duration/expansion dont work on calico unfortch
>>573358827that's the thing, spirit items are all turbo dogshit and the upcoming item rebalance update may or may not fix that
>>573329180you're supposed to buy toxic bullets and surge of power. they're both good. you need some form of ROF and the fact it gives spirit power to your steroid, removes movement penalty while firing, movespeed and gives rof all in one item slot makes it premium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w1DAeZhP1E
Spirit items are so bad that Spirit Res was basically a must buy on every character since forever while essentially no one build Bullet Res
https://streamable.com/11yg2jhere's your top 100 yamato bro
>>573360201>movement tranny in chiefbuy an ad
>log in>play 3 matches>phantom 5 lobby>oracle 4 lobby>asc 6 lobbyfix the matchmaking holy fuck this is retarded
>movement tranny>click on video>no trannyobsessed
how the fuck am I only good at moving when playing graveswith other characters I always hit walls and stuff but with her I'm almost passable
>>573360260it was a good play if they didn't get silenced and then ulted
>enemy team: holliday, wraith, drifter, mo, shiv, ivy>all of them are going their expected builds>my team: graves, geist, rem, venator, warden, yamato>rem builds zero utility actives, just gets rapid recharge and tankbuster>geist is building bombliterally just give me a fast forward button to the defeat screen thanks
>>573360442they could've just ulted in veil or come from one of the holes in the ceiling. it's such an easily executed thing and this retard hooks himself into a rend silence. never seen the likes of it outside of eternus. yet I'm supposed to believe these people aren't buying boosts.
You could completely delete urn, rift, and midboss and the game would genuinely only improve for it.
>>573360716>average match time rises by 20 minutes because there's no longer any objective to force people to stop turtling the instant they fall behind
>>573352914updating the situation 1/?:first round is over. went just as youd expect. i taught them how to take mid and stuff. i explained how to heavy melee the mid crystal after we took it. also the rem added me after the match because he wants to queue with me. the little initiates were so cute. gonna post updates to rank as soon as i get one. first match was initiate 6. you could heavy melee here all you wanted
>>573359148I pulled the most recent game by the top 10 calico in na and eu respectively and counted the frequency. Out of the 3 tankbusters I don’t remember one, another was bought very late in a long game where he was max build, and the third was eido, notorious brainlet with bad builds
>>573360716you could rollback the patches to the old gods patch and the game would genuinely *only* improve for it
>>573360716>team just decides they're never going to show up for urn or rift>lose in 20-25m topsbonus points for the retard who thinks you can just trade first rift for a walker. newsflash retard, the enemy gets an instant double damage double health wave of troopers spawned after claiming the rift. they're not only going to get our rift but a walker as well. like holy fuck people have such terrible macro even at the high ranks.
>entire team goes spirit dmgwow thanks seven, bebop not like you could have tried another build so people with no option can do dmg
>>573360951trading rift for walker is a smart thing to do if you're down in ults or lowrolled the team comp rng though.
>>573360832update 1/?:ah my rank updated immediately. obscurus to alchemist 1
Can the rift timeout like the old koth urn? What happens
>>573361112no you see its actually a really good idea to fight rift into a bunch of aoe teamfight slop bonus points if your team already agreed beforehand that they wouldnt try to fight rift you must go to rift and die and cry that your team isnt there
>retard on my team ragequits>enemy team struggles to close out a 5v6>act like they're really goodSome people really just crave the W
>>573361391I'd talk shit too if some retards wasted my time trying to play out their 5v6
>>573361726I mean, it'd be pretty embarrassing if you lost with that kind of advantage. And that has happened occasionally in MOBAs.
>>573361726Why should I get penalized because my victor behaves like a victim in lane and bails
>>573361829why should your enemies?
>>573361170souls shoot upwards and you have to shoot them to claim them
>>573361926My enemies are getting a win out of it, thats the opposite of a penalty
>>573361980no troopers?
>>573361112no people will skip it with full ults half the time like I see my billy trying to split push with ult up and then he just walks away when 1 person shows up to defend the walker and we wind up losing a walker, rift all for some chip damage. very cool.
make stone form scale just like ground strikeshe's not op enough
>>573362058none. someone has to win to get troopers.
>>573362156Don't do that but give her small tits instead.
>>573362156fun fact I'm the guy that came up with ivy ult and stoneform pulling people to the floor and her kudzu rooting if you stay in it too long. I better be in the fucking credits when this game launches.
>>573362272I'm the one that astral projected into Icefrog's dream to tell him to add KotH slop to the game.
>https://gamebanana.com/mods/690417>20$ for new wingszas it, modding is overand the polish ponyfag is also in on it somehow
>>573362403genuinely what is stopping someone from buying this, charging back and just uploading it publically for everyone to take? it's not like the fags could C&D you considering it's not their intellectual property.
>>573362403speaking of which, not enough actual ponyfag mods for this game
>>573362515>genuinely what is stopping someone from buying thisif it's not uploaded anywhere yet, that means local ivyfags don't careposting it anywhere else would probably get you banned by local jannies thoughbeit
>>573363324ivyfags know she's perfect already
At what rank do you find the most smurfs at the moment?
>>573363512oracle
>>573363512mid-eternusoracle is where matchmaker drops you if you're shit
update 3/?:one of the myths ive busted so far is that at seeker people dont listen to your calls. literally the entire team was my personal army that gave their everything for my every call. told paradox to just sit in base to counter backdoor attempts and he did.
>>573363512High Phantom - AscendantThe smurf detecter has gotten decent so every smurfing fag ends up here and ruining lobbiesBest us than literal new players I guess
>>573363631eternus 3-4 are the most pisslow matches I've ever faced in any moba ever. you have people who are perfectly competent raping retards who will go scores like 2-17. the amount of account buying/boosting this game has is insane. especially considering it's not even in open beta yet and the problems already this terrible.
>>573364830update to seeker adventure 4/?jumped four subranks
the three horsemen of uselessness
>>573365216you forgot calico and sinclair players
>>573365216just do this >>573364830
>>573365216how do you fucking go 19k damage on paradox?just max 1 and echo shart if you can't aim for fucks sake
>>573365216Shiv looks like someone trying his best to do something against an overfed enemy.Paradox is a new player.Billy has his finger glued to the Q key.
>have an unlucky game where all of my team's lanes lose>didn't derank though, queue again>game puts me a full badge down on a hero with two up arrows>lose to smurfs
>>573365549shiv is 50% behind the rest of the lobby in networth, complaining about dying to a haze with no slowing hex, curse or whateverbilly is always in the wrong place dying alone dealing no dmgparadox i dont even know just press 1 mnanb
seeker adventures update 5/5 for todayheres me teaching initiates what the mid crystal is for and how to take it. of course its on voice chat and this is a replay so theres no audio recording of it anymore. they understood what i was saying and listened to my every call which goes against the "you cant climb from seeker because of bad teammates" agenda. you just need to communicate what you want in a clear and friendly manner
>>573366640did you say that first guy to hit it gets his hp restored? I have learned it after 500+ games
>>573366640>heavy melee to claim>stares at it>spams light meleethat's adorable, they think they're people
>>573366834>first guy to hit it gets his hp restored?what the fuck?!
>>573366834no forgot about that. ill tell about it to seekers tomorrow when i continue my adventure>>573366887lmaoooo>>573366871i didnt specify how to melee it at first. they heavy meleed once i told them to hold down melee
>>573366640my favorite Seeker match back then was this match that was so hopeless our Vindicta and Wraith said they’re just going to throw only for Billy and I to get on voice and just start talking about our next moves and pull out of the soul dif and win, then everyone shit tall Wraith because she wasn’t doing enough or something I dunno why, maybe they were still annoyed about the start, point being you just gotta start talking if you want results
Is Valve just unaware of how broken Shiv is right now?
tfw I have learned about ranks when I was already out of seeker
>>573367243or unaware how dogwater silver is right now
>>573366834I always wondered why people said to let them hit it first, thought it was something to it never really got it though
>>573367243its intentional, you as goycattle will now look forward to the next patch to keep you engaged
>>573366640That is adorable actually. He is trying his best.
I hate mystic shot because it forces me to aim
Drifter Eminem skin when?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9bCLPwzSC0
i dont think mina is good guys1+3 doesnt really kill anyone late game and after that you hit for nothingulti is decent but too long cd and is easily avoidable2 technically gives you infinite ammo and dashes for a while but her gun is sitll assworks great against large characters but killing a haze requires aimbot
>be Mo und Krilliam>scream at monitor for teamates to stop sleeping at their keyboard while using combo>games last so long I consistently end the game with over 7k health.>doesnt matter because teamates dont capitalize on the fact everyone is shooting me and not them.why is shitlow so full of cowards?You cant tank or support because both require input from your teamates who actively throw whenever given the opportunity.
>>573314115That's because I am based.
>>573368671to me the easiest way to climb is to just pushplay wraith, mcginnins, graves, etc just anyone that holds a lane never leave and just push
>>573368671anything is possible you just have to communicate what you want clearly and a friendly manner. you cant scream at your teammates. refer to >>573366640
>>573362515Usually the bizarre unwritten rules in the modding community that have people/mods sperg out even if what you’re doing is considered a general positive (like updating someone elses mod without the creators permission since it’s been either abandoned or taking months to fix) or bypassing someones bullshit patron (that massive Elden Ring mod the creators were charging $25 to download), I don’t understand it fully really but it’s genuinely annoying when I’ll see some once popular mod make a comeback and the guy that went out his way to share it with the community is having a verbal fistfight in the thread against people accusing him of ‘stealing the mod’
>>573368850Im gonna do this.Im gonna be that annoying fucker than stays in one lane no matter what.NO MATTER WHAT.
>>573368671I've had the opposite experience in shitlow where my tanks are absolute cowards that never want to fight.
>>573312867>>573313114Corner/edgeboosting should be removed. Keep mantling and heavy melees moving you, but anything that can't be explained how to do it two lines of text should be removed."What is mantling?">When you crouch after climbing up a wall, you go into a slide."What is heavy melee air time?">When you heavy melee, it extends your air time and can drag you up a ledge."What is corner/edgeboosting?">When you are jumping off of a wall but only at a very specific angle and at a very specific point in the wall jump, if you turn a certain way you will go way higher and farther, but only on a Tuesday, and only if the server's tick is on the 37th parsec at 7 pm GMT-2
>>573368671When I was first starting out I was too passive since I figured any risk is not worth taking, until I realized I’m getting walked all over specifically because I’m not forcing them to divert their attention to me stealing stuff or pushing lanes, low ELOs are probably full of people who are both too solitary save for team fight encounters like they’re playing Overwatch and also too passive to chase, capitalize on the enemy trying to farm or take calculated risks
>>573368987Good luck this stops working at E6
>>573369047or just>walljump at a corner
>>573368050based marshall mathers enjoyer
>>573360416because all the characters are very slightly different and you also probably judge timing jumps and whatnot off her animations
>>573369210>wall jump at a corner>actually it wasn't a corner, it was a bevel so it doesn't work>also we don't indicate what counts as a corner or not>also we don't explain anywhere in-game how to do any of this
mirage fucking sucks
>>573369047wow this is definitely not biased at all
>>573347159Yes, when the game puts new players straight inot mid-high Oracle, it is entirely possible to get straight to Eternus as a smurf.
>>573369307>lash has the highest ms in the gameYOOOOOOOOOOOSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>573369479Yeah I'm biased towards the game being more fun and not full of retarded esoteric source engine bugs that do not have a tutorial on how to perform, except by some nasally tranny on youtube.
>>573369307I thought horses are fast
>>573369679i know you're just shitposting but no he actually doesnt, also its only base speed
>>573369704and im biased toward not speaking to seeker players so this is my last reply goodbye
>>573369770the last thing the purple transvestite needs is any more buffs
>>573369525he got into eternus fast because he created the account on the same computer where he plays on his main. ranks get hwid seeded when starting. if you do a smurf properly you start at initiate and stay there for a while. source: just tried this today>>573369398its really as complicated as you make it sound like. you can argue dishonestly all you want but anyone above room temp iq can figure out what corners are boostable. i actually cant think of any noncornerboostable geometry right now so can you give an example?
>>573369779>mina is supposed to be a "harasser">one of the lowest movespeedsyeah she has her bats but fuck you valve
>>573369996its really not*fuck me
>>573370028>has free movement tech with the gay umbrella>has two teleports that remove all risk of harassing people>has an ez-mode combo that can 100-0 people>>573369996I agree, movement in this game is needlessly overcomplicated by a lack of a tutorial and a lack of even mentioning to the player that these things exist.
>>573370028she harasses you by taking potshots at you and proccing her 3what does movespeed have to do with that
Ascendant 4 acquired. Hopefully Eternus by end of month. Wish me luck chat.
>>573369996>ranks get hwid seededliterally just a lie or literal newfags wouldnt get put in oracle and cry about it on reddit
>>573325916>elo hell is something you CAN climb out of if you play way about the average skill for the rankso Elo hell isn't real.
>>573370471your heroes?
>>573370705Billy Seven and Venator. Mostly Billy as of late.
>>573370792you're a boosted archon
>>573370667yes? if youre not better than your rank then you dont deserve to be put at a higher rank. pretty simple
>>573371089Archon are archons because they do stupid shit like pick bad heroes and whine while they get raped the 10th game in a row by a Shiv.
I just want to go back to a lower rank man my ass is not good enough to be bouncing back&forth mid-high phantom let me play with my fellow retards
>Play carry>Commit the fatal mistake of trying to help my team too much instead of farming
>>573370667>the ranking placement metrics are complete infallible and without fault, the devs are perfect, no mistakes can be made in a system's designretardgot placed into archon, hard stuck there for monthsmade a new accountplaced into oracle and now ping/pong between it and phantom, never fell into oracle againsame shit happened in overwatch when i was hardstuck diamond and made a new account for masters, these systems suck ass and are designed to be goy treadmills that eternally cuck you
>>573369307>character built around moving fast around the map>lowest move speed>character with built in movespeed steroid that is permanently on and a flying escape>(tied) highest move speed
>>573371208meanwhile in reality shiv has a 49% wr in archon
>>573371551If you stop playing for a month or longer your rank starts to decay (but we're prolly getting the MM update before that).
>you're telling me i have to LEARN THE GAME?>HELP ME RIOT GAMES AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEfucking faggots
>>573371731Surely a heros winrate is the only indicator for how much people bitch about it.
>>573371736hope we do get the update soon, been awhile, atleast the new music has been mint
>there is no forced 50/50 its not real>all the hero's win rates are 50/50 +-5% aggregated across rankim so tired of these gay fake number systems bros, wheres the normal queue?
>>573371736Everytime I stop playing it's one game and I'm back where I was.
>d-dude who cares it's j-just team brawlthe cacophony of the shitter
YOU ALL SUCK
>can't look up mina or paiges skirtsWHEN WILL VALVE FIX THIS GAME?
>>573372302Mina wears shorts
>>573372302mods
>>573372404>Blacked
>>573372359no she doesnt faggot>>573372404>muh modstrash retard shit that doesn't count
>>573372525hello saar>>573372556okay whatever nerd
>>573372525>shitjeet enters the thread
>>573372623>>573372717timmies mad
>>573372014If you aren't Obscurus when you come back you haven't waited long enough for decay to kick in, and you gotta wait for like another month to decay enough that you end up one division lower. Went from Oracle to Emissary from a 3 month absence for example.
>>573372556Those are clearly shorts, retard
>>573372791>timmies mad
>>573371724There is a mathematical proof for elo, it’s literally a solved problem
>>573372908nigger are you blind? her legs just end in the twisting nether and she's wearing no fucking shorts.
>>573371785If TF2 came out today people would cry about sticky jumping, sharking and everything involving FaN
>queue solo>win win win win>queue with friends>lose lose lose losewhat do i do
>>573373038>elo>6v6 gamebased gigabrainlet
>>573373080i have 6.6k hours in tf2what the hell is sharking?
>silver on my team>paradox on my team>graves on my team>teammate buys tankbuster>teammate buys decay>teammate buys gun items on holliday>teammate buys gun items on shivI report and go afk.
>>573373063Look like black shorts to me.
MAKE A NEW THREAD ALREADY HOLY FUCK
>>573373232then you are just mentally ill. go visit a doctor at your earliest convenience.
>>573369408U fucking sucks
>>573373198I think its when you spend the entirety of your time in the 2Fort water
>>573373207>>silver on my teamyes report him for abusing the most op S+++ tier hero
>>573373207why is -50% healing bad, again?
>>573373191It’s a 1v1 game(1 team vs 1 team). Not mms fault you play with 5 ringers every gameI accept your concession btw
>>573373314Sorry the concept of a girl wearing shorts under their skirt to cuck losers like you makes you dilate.
>>573373342oh, pyrosharkingthis works in that new payload water map very well too
>>5733732622 months left before patch edition...
>>573373463kill yourself
Uh oh, melty
>>573373458hang, retard nigger
Anger is a common reaction when you don’t understand something, it’s ok anon
>>573372884doesn't matter mate idk if my account is fucked or not but ive gone half a year without playing and still havent moved
>>573373207>gun items on hollidayYou need mystic shot and recharging rush, though. Opening rounds is good too.
>>573363512Initiate unironically
>>573371549kino
watching Lacari play Paradog was truly an eye-opening experience
>>573373207>paradox on my teambased and redpilled
>page 11deadgamelock
>>573372302Also cant look up giest dress, shit game
>>573374496You can retard
The end of /dlg/...
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