intense brool edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/688635449342692003>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>573257101
Silver needs buffs.
>>573374737total shiv death
>>573374810silver needs a buff man (me) to have sex with her
Graves is cute and needs buffs.
>>573374852This, but a fat man (me) instead.
>>573374857Rework the hero so she has a beam you have to actually aim and an alt fire to command skulls and ghouls
>>573374737only three more months until they do something about the matchmaking, r-right guys?
>500 mb patch>literally nothingok
>>573375459they patched in Mina and Paige pantsu actually, that's why it's so heavy
i've been trying to look at old games to see what i did wrong but i don't know where to start. Any tips?
>>573375459They nerfed S+++ilver again
December update boutta finna be good!
When there's a counter for everything, there's a counter for nothing.Your ability to have fun is 100% dependant on whether or not the other team decides to lock you down permanently.
>>573374857Graves needs borgor
Any good paradox guides and how do I build her?
>>573375459they fixed the upside-down hack that Russians were using to shoot you from under the map
>>573375459they fixed the upside-down hack that Hohols were using to shoot you from under the map
>>573375839ring of repick
>>573375889>>573375946wait it was still in the game earlier today? and it took 500mb to fix?
>>573375946based
>>573375459they need to keep bloating and unoptimizing the game to meet board room requirementspls understand
>>573375946why are yuo blaming hohols all nationals did it you racist
these things
>all the piggers and ziggers who abused the cheat will keep the elo that they gainedAnother W for cheating orc slavs, another L for niceguy timmies
WHO THE FUCK KEEPS WATCHING ME
>>573376105>>573376263they have to recompile the map to fix map bugs it doesn't increase the game file size because they delete the old map data
>>573376427Subhuman rusnigs shouldn't be allowed to play on human servers, it killed dota and it will kill deadlock
>>573376515*watches you*
>>573376515it could be a bot from one of those stat tracking sites
>>573376619penis size tierlist
>>573376619She's falling...
>>573376619>Bilver>not Filver>not even Dilver
if the entirety of the former USSR was nuked, which game would see the most improvement to its matchmaking?
>>573376749has to be dota, rightit's basically twice the ruskies compared to deadlock
>>573376619you realise viscous cube is the best ability in the game?
Victor simultaneously has the biggest peen but also the smallest because his creator would likely not pass up on the opportunity to make his creation well-endowed, but Victor lacks the blood flow to put it to use
You want the patch to release because you want content.I want the patch to release for an uptick in Ivy and Vyper r34.
>>573376894Doesn't matter half the time in matchmaking if you can only cube people who are retarded, Viscous should still be A tier though.
>>573376894You realise that heroes are supposed to also have 3 other abilities?
>>573376736>>573376737Silver isn't bad. She still has a very oppressive lane and mid game with her ult and pressure + great at picks and dive, but falls off by late game. The problem with characters such as her is that you have someone like Shiv that is good in every stage of the game, this is one of the game's biggest issues. Some characters are never truly weak while others fall off/start weak >>573376894Ivy stoneform is the best ability in the game. Cube is overrated
>>573376989I actually don't want the patch to release because I know they'll just add six completely broken dogshit characters they don't know what to do with
>>573377154Statistically she has a middling lane in all ways though, not good nor bad
>>573377154celeste fucking sucks in lane what
>>573377154>>573376894Riposte is the best ability in the game, closely followed by hookshot
>>573377154>Silver isn't badCome on now. She's the most mediocre laner in the game and she's worthless in the mid game and even worse in late.
What do you guys think?
>>573377610Silver definitely licks
>>573377610graves and holliday are both unenthusiastic handjob queens
what was meant by this?
>>573377732Only if theres peanut butter
>>573377852>Abrams that entire convo
>>573378037>
>>573377226>>573377540Silver has strong burst, mobility and the ult healing is no joke. The difference between her and someone like pocket/calico is that she requires thinking capatibility >>573377305Didn't know where else to place her desu
>>57337661930 hour playtime tier list
KUDZU BOMB!
alright guys im doing a couple more Slayer tasks and then im hopping on so if you want to play without me BODYING you you need to queue up now
Why basic elo is better than glicko 22015 paper proves basic Elo DOES converge to true skill (Jabin & Junca, SIAM 2015), BUT only if matchmaking is unrestricted, anyone vs anyoneOnce you add a single restriction(like sbmm) converge becomes unprovable. So if a single assumption added on the model destroys the certainty, why is the solution 50 more assumptions? This is a keep it simple stupid scenario, we need less mm “features”
>>573379052theyre not trying to get you to your true skill, theyre trying to give you close matches, moron.what a pointless post
>>573379052Facts about matchmakingPlayers will always blame matchmaking for any perceived reason regardless of its qualityContent creators are leeches who cause incitement for clout. They can always blame matchmaking when there's nothing left to discuss.
>>573379654How can they make close matches if they can’t quantify the player skill? This is why we have 0-15 in every rank of the game
>>573379052
>>573379713True and honest matchmaking has never been tried, because the shitters all stop playing the game after losing too much in a row
>>573379794median performance metrics compared to teammates. Besides your paper only accounts for head to head two player games. This is a 12 player game. retarded nigga
>>573379794ok but valve can't even quantify character roles or teamp comps yet and you want an objective way of measuring skill in an unfinished game?
>TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS, YO!
573380105whats the point of this post
5733801605whats the point of this post
>>5733799421 team vs 1 team>>573380047I’m not saying that, I’m saying every thing they add on top just add another point of failure and they have no way of knowing if it actually helped
>>573380270>1 team vs 1 team?
>>573380105Billy would say this but still call them trannies and refuse to associate with them, he would jerk off to them also however.
>>573377154calico i can buy, but calling vindicta overpowered is a ritualist take. focus her when you hear flight go off and she disappears, she is the squishiest hero in the game and her main damage skill is her only escape
>>573380365Deadlock is a 1v1 game, it’s 1 team(hidden king) vs 1 team(arch mother)>but I deserve more mmr than the feedernope, win together lose together, if you are better you will win more in the long run
>>573376894Doesn't matter when Icefrog made punch and goo ball worthless, so all you can do is spam Splatter and then do the cube + rescue beam save every minute or so.
>>573380945Yes but the teams are not consistent across gamesWhat about this do you not understand? Your paper would apply if it were always 6 stacks queuing into 6 stacksIf you queue solo you have 5 variables on your team every game.Ask me how I can tell you've never worked with scientific method before
>>573377197Hey, give them some credit, of the last six heroes, Venator was only broken for a little while on release, the 5 others are still broken!
holy shit update the fucking game already ITS BEEN 6 MONTHSwhy do they keep saving everything up for these "giga updates" instead of spreading them out like they did when the game was good
>>573381276>If you queue solo you have 5 variables on your team every game.and the enemy team has 6 variables. If you are better than the rank you're at, you will win more than 50% of you games and climb ranking, as your team will always have more players that are better than the game's rating. Its pretty simple if you've ever worked with the scientific method before.
>>573381873matchmaking update, jungle rework, model rework, pve update, secret shop update, new hero batch update are all separate, they're not saving it up for some giga update. it's just vacations+valve time
>>573381276solo queue’s teammate randomness doesn’t get you outside the scope of the papers cited it puts you deeper inside the part that already shows uncertainty compounding, not resolving. The variable-strength extension exists precisely because Jabin-Junca’s original fixed-strength convergence proof doesn’t hold once teammates aren’t constant
>>573381873The giga updates makes the player count double. The smaller updates we've been getting, even the new rift objective, barely brings anyone in.
>>573381953What does that have to do with what we're talking about?You implied (citing a paper that does not apply in some vain attempt to appeal to authority) that a pure ELO system would outperform glicko because of some percieved headcanon garbage.Schizo retard do not reply to me again and stay in school>>573382136Yes it literally does. Unless you can exactly quote to me the section of the paper where they discuss its application to team games with random teammates, then you can stop replying to me.>>573381873Well that's easy to explain. Big updates = big playernumbers = many playtesters = much data
>>573382448The point was uncertainty compounds so you are just reinforcing my point. Düring, Fischer, Wolfram 2021 covers it but you have to actually use your brain to connect the ideas, it’s not explicit
bring back the 4 lane mapno I don't care that sweatlords abused it\
>>573382923>no refutation>schizobabbleWe're done here.
>Metro gets convinced to play any character that isn't a m1gger that auto wins the game by existing>He ints all game threatens to leave and blames his team>he goes back to playing m1gger and never improves any actual skill until he gets convinced to play a character that doesn't auto win again and the cycle continuesTruly beautiful
>>573382936sorry but 1v1 lane got really fucking boring after a while
>>573382936only if its a side mode thats 10 v 10
>>573383329imagine the brools...
>>573382936just make the map bigger if they're going to have to make more assets anyway
>>573383370>rifts in the side lanes for broool>old urn in the side lanes for broool>melee urn in the museum for brooolkino
this is how i imagine the average /dlg/ poster
instead of zip lines everyone starts the game by driving their lane partner to lane using a car. If you want to go back to base you'd have to drive all the way back. The car does damage so you can run over people
>>573383650FVCK... SO KINO...
>>573383794That is winnable yesStop being a little whiny bitch and play
>>573383085he's fucking 7/15 on drifter and has done nothing but flame his celeste lane partner all game good god if this is the average eternus teammate i'll stay in archon thank you
>>573383002>uncertainty compounds that’s the point mongoloid, I forgot it’s summer so we have literal high schoolersSloppa explanation because I can’t baby sit you, asked for no big words don’t worryTheir paper doesn’t use the words “solo queue” or “random strangers.” What it does model is teams that pick a different lineup of players for each match, drawn from a larger pool — like a football squad rotating who plays each week. That’s not identical to Deadlock solo queue, where your five teammates are basically strangers assembled fresh every game with zero shared history. Solo queue is more random than what they modeled, not less.But here’s the part that matters: their finding was that even that partial, rotating-roster kind of variability was enough to break clean convergence — instead of ratings settling on one “true” number, the math showed the system landing on a spread of possible states instead. If a moderate amount of randomness already does that, there’s no reason to think full randomness (actual solo queue) would somehow fix it and produce a cleaner result. It would push the same problem further, not undo it.
>>573375889>>573375946>>573375459>ban russians from the game>completely block VPNs>fix game
>>573384129Did I not tell you we were done? If you can't link the exact citation I am not interested.kys
>>573380584he just like me fr
>>573376615trvke. I've told yoshi this personally several times and once he responded and was like "I know. We're trying to find a fix for this." that was back in 2024 so don't hold out hope if this mm update does nothing.
>>573384109its really not the average eternus player there's maybe only slightly more egotistical retards and dickheads than any other rank but since the rank is largely populated by tryhards and competitive people they have a vague understanding that going full sperg mode on your teammates just makes them play worse and they want to win more than they want to flame teammates
>>573384285>appeal to authority I accept your concession
>>573382936they removed it because support heroes exist and were getting brutally raped by lane bullies. people pretend like support heroes don't exist yet they literally had to make a distinction for forcing supports onto duo lanes. ivy kelvin dynamo were on that if I recall correctly. yet you had people pretending they weren't supports with horrific laning phases and duos were often trying to force the supports back off duos even though they'd been matched there so they can go get raped by a haze, infernus or mirage. it was a headache for the devs. the soul split abuse was the final straw and they looked to just kill two birds with one stone.
>>573384575You realize that doesn't fly when your entire argument is built on an appeal to authority, right?Don't reply again, this is the last (You) you're getting.
for the last time: you are not losing rank because of mm or you becoming worse, you are losing rank because players leftfor example, let's say 10% of people are in eternus, 10% in asc, 10% in phantom etcwhen there were 100k players, 10k could be in the top rank. now, there are only 50k. so only 5k can be in the top rank and the other 5k are pushed down to asc, which pushes down the asc to phantom, etc. that's why you're deranking.
>>573384746okay bro then why am I losing 8 out of 10 games whenever I go on a 5 win streak? and all of those losses are literally just some duo runs it the fuck down and goes 0-12 in lane and then end the game like 4-18 each. surely not eomm. surely.
>play 1-2 games every weekday after work>80% wr>play 5+ games on weekend>30% wri thought only CHINK RIVALS used eomm? and that white deadlock was superior? whitebros? what's going on?
>>573384707I didn’t appeal to authority brainlet, I cited a study, and explained it btw. you’d know that if you actually read the postsConsider logic classes when you get to college
>>573384982>he hasn't realized different times of day have different skill levelspeople only play on weekends are significantly worse for their rankyour match quality will be far more varied on the weekend, except your teammates to be retarded and do nothing and the enemy to run around doing stupid shit.are u really surprised if different people play at 3am at vs 6pm in the evening?why would you be surprised different people play on the weekend vs weekday evenings.
>>573384096he bought magic carpet and started intingasc lobby btw
>>573385105all "studies" can be made up by chatgpt in 10 seconds these days. i assume everything is fake unless i directly experience it myself.
>I make fun of someone's feminine voice>they start moaning "oh daddy" into the mic>I get an erection imagining a femboy version of the character they're playing (mina) moaning those things to me and getting handsy>masturbate furiously after the match (we won)so am I still straight?
>>573384656People still pretend support heroes don't exist and think they should build like a carry on everyone
573385105So you are allowed to selectively use a paper to strengthen your point, but I am not allowed to ask for an exact citation from said paper?You some kind of retard or what?>collegeAmerican, figures.
>>573385223Fair enough, carry on
>>573385312miss when abrahms looked like a chudyoure a homo btw
You are allowed to ask for a citation just like I’m allowed to look down on you for asking something stupid.The exact citation doesn’t exist because the point I’m making is derivative of the findings. Engage with the context Typical euro mindset 2bh, this is how they pile on the bureaucracy
>exact citation doesn't existAlright, thanks for confirming it's all schizobabble. You could've just said that from the start and saved us all this trouble.
im going to sleep /dlg/, i'll make sure to have everyone of (you) in my dreams
>>573377154>drifter>carryonly if the enemy team is retarded
>>573386067You are the only one struggling with this m8, it’s not that complicated
>>573385331this extends to the highest ranks. like I'll have a victor forcing a spirit build while everyone else is and I'm like "hey vic can you please build gun we're a bit spirit heavy" and he's telling me to go gun on ivy instead and it's like, that's dog shit. support ivy is how she's supposed to be played. you want me to go gun on a character it's weak on. you need a big lead for ivy gun to actually compete with proper M1 characters. m1 ivy only exists by the mercy of capacitor/siphon bullets existing. still doesn't make it as good as m1s that can build the same shit anyways.
Write a paper then, in LaTeX. Use overleaf if you don't have any software on your PC.Abstract, introduction, theory, method, results, discussion and conclusion. I'll be waiting.
>>573385312kill yourself
we won :)
graves deserves to be embarrassingly weak until they rework her completely. when she's weak her summons are a nuisance and not much else. when she's strong they nuke you before you can react. at no point does the graves player themselves enter the equation except for the initial summon and maybe a sliver of damage from her gun. in either case you don't even feel like you are fighting a player but instead managing npcs. its not fun to play as or against. the whole thing needs to go. just does not fit deadlock
>>573386712>write a paper>then in latexwhy would someone write a paper and not be using latex for their formatting?what else would you use?
>>573387352Graves, like almost everyone in that batch of heroes, was a mistake. Apollo, Celeste, Silver, and Graves could all be removed entirely and it would improve the game. Rem at least occupies an interesting design space as a support who can also force lane pressure without being too obnoxious, and Venator is a genuinely good and balanced design, which is why he sucks compared to braindead OP characters like Wraith.
>>573387471As an example, my sister did her Master's in Word. For my bachelor there were atleast a few still using Word. I never interacted with anyone during my Master's so I wouldn't know at that stage.If you're not writing sciencitically then you can get by just fine using Word or similar, you'll just be more susceptible to getting AIDS
>>573387352everything about graves is terribly designed including her visualshow does valve fuck up "JK goth necromancer"?
I'm sort of at the point where if I get a bebop I simply want to just sidelane every game. They all just do the same shit. Echo shard, no actives, never any hooks past the 20 mark. They'll end the game with 40k damage but you'll swear it's like they never existed. My winrate getting queued into this hero on my team might genuinely be like 20% out of the past 30 games
>>573379871>brown hands has never read a basic scientific paper in his life>doesn't comprehend>assumes it must be nigger speakmany, MANY such casesvery sad!>>573379654>actually this system has nothing to do with skill and is just designed to put you with retards and carries keeping you at whatever rank you're dumped at based on metrics you are not allowed to knowyes, thank you for finally admitting that anon
>3 nigger teamates in enemy jungle fucking around instead of protecting only walker
>>573388307i aint protecting dat shit wyte boi pussy ass cracker what timmy gon do?
>>573388160>>actually this system has nothing to do with skill and is just designed to put you with retards and carries keeping you at whatever rank you're dumped at based on metrics you are not allowed to knowShow me where I said this, Ranjesh
>>573381953>If you are better than the rank you're at, you will win more than 50% of you games and climb rankingCompletely false unless you make further assumptions but lets take your argument to the natrual conclusion as it demonstrates a problem with these games:What if I'm rank 7 but really belong at rank 8 or 9? Playing like a rank 8 or 9 absolutely will not allow me to go to rank 8 or 9 in a reasonable timespan for a "season" unless i play thousands and thousands of matches PER season by the law of large numbers and basic sampling statistics, which equates to treating the game like a full time job. And this is how you get to these games being nothing but gambling machines, people feeling like they have no agency in matches, and it just being "random" if you win or lose because it IS unless you devote 50 hours per week.>IM TOO MUCH OF A NIGGER IM NOT READING ALL THATOkay fine, add a non-ranked queue then.
>>573388450great post man
>>573381953>If you are better than the rank you're at, you will win more than 50% of you games and climb rankingdeadlock, and most competitive games, do not treat each win and loss as equal in terms of mmr score which defeats your argument. Its actually quite a bit higher than 50% which destroys many of the base assumptions in the original paper.
>>573388693thanks niqqa u aite wyte boi
i dont know shit about statistics but i just refuse to play ranked because it just makes me mad and video games are supposed to be funi just check in like once every 3 months to see if they reverted the retarded decision trying to force me to play itfrom these posts i assume they havent
>>573381953>you will win more than 50% of you games and climb rankingthis game has inflationary ranks up to oracle and perhaps phantom. lots of streamers have been going up in rank even with a sub 50% wr
>>573386712
>>573389142I asked you to write a paper, not Claude or Grok or whatever the fuck
>>573389379It’s 2026 Luddite, get with the times
>kill enemy lane>they respawn 2 seconds later and fast zip to a different lane and kill them>WTF!!! WHY U NO CALL MISSING!!!!do people actually expect you to call mia whenever you kill your lane
>>573389379nta but the basic idea is incredibility simple and can be summarized in a single post: elo sucks because they're wrong in what they assume, just use a flat metric based on W/Lalso im a /sci/fag and you're incredibly stupid if you dont think we use AI to do the boring formatting and latex generation for our papers now
>>573382936Only if you make it 8v8
fuck complaining about the mmr system WHERE IS REGIONLOCK IM SICK OF BEING FORCED TO INTERACT WITH 3RD WORLDERS
>>573390076never
>>573389803If you still browse /sci/ after 2020 you're a moron.He's not arguing for a flat W/L metric, he was (and still is), from the beginning, arguing for open, unrestricted matchmaking. That is to say, you have ELO, but the ELO does not matter for who you match into. Aka. an absolutely retarded system where ELO is effectively pointless.Atleast read the fucking conversation if you're going to butt in and try to be "le smart heckin science explainer".>>573389627I will redeem, saar.
>>573389142based
>converge>distribution>probabilitywoah is /dlg/ literate in math and statistics? i wish more people understood mm concept even intuitively so we'd get less misdirected seething about being bad at the game
>>573389797They wouldnt care even if you did call it. Theyre copemaxxing
is he the mario of deadlock
>>573390191>That is to say, you have ELO, but the ELO does not matter for who you match into.sounds based, ranked games suck ass, i rather get raped and rape newbs than deal with this dogshit cuck system that's infected every modern game
>>573390191>open unrestricted mmReading comprehension moment, the point was that a single assumption made the system unprovably complex, so that we should be very prudent in adding additional assumptions, not a case for returning to unrestricted. Its scope creep
>>573390191>Aka. an absolutely retarded system where ELO is effectively pointless.Good. You can have a big epeen and brag about it on www.4channel.org but it means jack shit and no one will care anymore.Fuck streamers.Fuck jew tubers.Fuck esports faggots.
>>573391150So if you weren't arguing for that (you were, but whatever), then I was right on the money on my first ever post, >>573379654, that your post was pointless and that you're a moron.>>573391063>>573391287I actually like close matches, and so does the everyman or else they wouldn't put SBMM into every fucking game, ranked or not.You want to stomp? Good for you. Go play with bots.
>>573390191>ELO is effectively pointlesssounds great, give me my unranked queue and you and the other trannies can go jerk eachother off in your private transcord scrim
okay going on a seeker adventure again. to recap: last time we taught initiates how to melee the mid crystal. i hope to see more cute moments like these in the unexplored world of seeker.>whatsmurfing but with an actual smurf acc aka one that avoids hwid seeding
>>573391497>and so does the everyman or else they wouldn't put SBMM into every fucking gameno they do it because its industry standard and it feeds into the kiketube/streamer/esports scene which generates more revenue, thats it, it completely fucks over the game from a design point and adds nothing of value to the player>You want to stomp? Good for you. Go play with bots.some little man's afraid of getting his ass whooped and wants to sit around with other retards to feel special
>>573391497>or else they wouldn't put SBMM into every fucking game, ranked or not.Nah its complete kikeshit that forces a controlled dopamine addiction to hook in whales for premium cosmetics and other paid shit (which is hilarious because despite it being out for 2 years they've done nothing with).
>>573391740The average """gamer""" comes home from work to play a couple of hours of Fortnite or CoD or whatever and does not want to be placed into a lobby with xx_Snip0r_xx with 3000h logged and a 30 K/D. That's why SBMM exists, to protects those guys, because with the exception of gachas, those gun and ball gamers are the vast majority of sales. If you don't like it, you're welcome to play games without it or with server browsers. No one is forcing you to play games you don't like.>scaredProjection.>>573391532See above.
>>573391673>smurfing on the strongest most OP S++++ hero in the game
>>573392035>If you don't like it, you're welcome to play games without it or with server browsers.I did. It was called deadlock. Then some niggerfaggot dev added a ranked queue and REMOVED the ability to play the game for anyone with a functioning brainstem which is why the playerbase is sub50k.
>win 3 in a row>no rank gaini see how it is yoshi
>>573392203Imagine thinking just because they put a little funny emblem next to your name you weren't already in SBMM queue.You're not that naïve, are you?
>banned from rank queue for 48 hours because i AFK'd every time we had a shivnigger on our teamtime to hop and do it againget fucked faggots
>>573391497We agree that the point is close matches, I’m just saying all this extra stuff like hero mmr/ lane mmr, performance weighting, we don’t actually know if it’s helping or hurting. We might be getting less close games because the system can’t quantify skill anymore, how can it pair closely skilled opponents if it doesn’t know how skilled you are?The glicko thing was mostly because I really don’t like the certainty factor, it converges faster but without auditable accuracy the faster convergence might hurt as much as it helps
statlocker.gg is the most ai bro coded website ive ever seen why is the tranny community not more against this
>>573392203nta but you cant be this retarded. deadlock has ALWAYS had skill based matchmaking. they just made your hidden mmr visible with one update
>>573392284then the inverse, lose 1 game derank immediatelyyoshi is a nigger
>poop on enemy in lane>buy cultist 3rd like my goodboy guide says>no red camps up for 2 minoh okay
>>573392446>I’m just saying all this extra stuff like hero mmr/ lane mmr, performance weighting, we don’t actually know if it’s helping or hurting.i havent been following the convo but didnt yoshi say this is just for smurf detection
>>573392420
>>573392613dont believe what yoshi says its all jew talk to get people's copium up
>>573392446We don't know that because we don't have the data. They do. If they think it doesn't work they'll remove it.You take another Valve title, CS2, and compare matchmaking to server browsers, you're much more likely to have a close game in matchmaking as opposed to joining a server with a bunch of randoms.
can they fix the fucking bug where if you're spectating someone when you respawn the items on your hotbar get replaced with theirs?
please let there be seasons in deadlock ranked the current ranks are so fucked it doesnt make sense to keep it fucked forever
>>573392892you'd love dota 2
>>573392892sorry goy, you're an unpaid beta tester
Hey guys Yoshi here ask me anything and i'll answer
>>573387747I genuinely hadn't even considered someone would use word to write a paperHaven't had to use word in like 20 years.Used latex in my bachelors and masters.Even wrote my resume in it and used it many times when I wanted to create formatting, crazy to think people use word for that.
>>573393043can you work on meet your patron for the next deadlock update nine years from now
>>573392892Sorry lad but resets are total placebo, everyone will rank the same except we will have trash games for 2 months
does anyone else think that one part of the loading screen music sounds like "after dark"?
>>573393135I would assume this to be the case elsewhere too but here you literally don't even touch or talk about LaTeX until university. So it's not exactly odd that people just stick to what they know and have been taught since 1st grade.I too also only use LaTeX now but that's mostly because I can't be fucked to pay for Word when tex is free.
>>573393242people who want ranked seasons are the biggest retards out therethey don't understand seasons are implemented to boost engagement by getting people to feel fake progress by getting back to the exact same rank they were at before and try to make sure people come back every few months.its actually insane someone thinks this is beneficial for players and not solely corpo bullshit
>>573393043fuck you yoshit
>>573393236once the next hero update drops im taking all the funding and running to south africa in order to further my career as a diamond mine owner you will never see a finished game
>>573393043hey yoshi im painting my stairs right now can you come over and help man would really appreciate it
>>573393043can you add more secrets and easter eggs to the hideout?
>>573393583we all know the game was finished months ago and you use "alpha" as a coping mechanism to get your bosses off your backno one would play this dogshit if the valve name wasn't attached
>>573393516thank you i am accumulating extreme amounts of negative karma by making this game super shit to play in order to ensure my reincarnation as a some sort of bottom feeding worm
>>573391048No, people actually like Mario
>>573393759so who's mario then
>>573393043Have you ever been to the Turkish prison?
>>573393605i just sent the idf an anonymous tip to drone strike you and the 10 palestinean children you are hiding beneath said stairsglory to the zionist state
>>573393671i secretly lowered the age of consent in game
>>573393043What does Silver's tail smell like?
>>573393803Mario… the plumber? Probably holiday because you can gomba stomp people and you could mod the barrels to look like fireballs like his power up version
>>573393848thats where i got my asshole widened by 35 cm in fact thats what inspired me to create the character of graves
>>573394083yeah but like mario is the default guy you pick in mario kart and mario partythats why infernus is mariohe's like the default guy for a person with no interests
>>573394159Oh that’s Abram’s, the face of deadlock
>>573394078smells like birth of a nation by d.w. griffith
>>573394321no he's a tank the default guy cant be a tank because the default guy doesnt play tanks the default guy plays dps
who the fuck bans victor when I have dynamo and shiv in my game
>>573394392bans dont work faggot stop lying
>>573394374It's Seven. The most average hero (conceptually not power level)
>>573394507he's too evil i feel
>>573394392Late game victor is legit insufferable so I can kinda understandStill retarded though, at least use your ban on drifter/kelvin/shiv/pocket
>>573394569Do you not ban yamato
>>573394374You can play dps Abram’s, really the whole game was inspired by him because he was added to neon prime and valve realized hey this guy kind of mogs our whole roster then they redid everything
I ban wraith, I can cope with the other carry’s but tp kiting too strong
>>573394392>kill character>he's not actually deadyeah no, fuck you faggot
>my exact luck the instant I try to play rem>team wakes everyone up instantly instead of focusing 1 person on sleeps>people run away and LOS me so I can't jump onto them>when I do jump onto someone everyone fucking delta splits immediately so I get fuck all value out of each heal>cause a bunch of macro pressure, team proceeds to never pushhero just sucks ass, delete it
>fell into the event horizon of arcanist>where your teammates are genuinely subhuman, retarded scum and the enemy team always wins the coinflip and gets the oracle smurt that singlehandedly carries them, making it impossible to climb or even enjoy the gameIt's so fucking over
>>573395191teamwork, have you heard of it
>>573395421arcanist ritualist curve is fucked by retarded feeders and 2nd game noobs
giga turbo smurfing seeker adventure continues. some notable interactions:>how do you have so many souls?>weirdest round ive ever playedand i got to teach how to do mid boss againgotta say this is pretty relaxing. feels like bot lobbies but with cute little initiates
>tfw 35 years old >grew up with multiplayer games just having server browsers>somehow it all just worked out ok>games have highly technical MM systems now and everyone is just more pissed off than everDo zoomers even understand this as a concept IDKDo zoomers just think
>>573393043Why do niggers like Kelvin and Infernus and Bebop always get escalating exposure in street brawl but when I play them I never ever see this item no matter how much I reroll?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if0HbDv5UWw>Playing as male heroesnot gonna make it
>>573395884Do you only reroll the t4’s? T4 rerolls into t4 so you can save it and fish for er
>>573396126yes, I wait for T4s and even with the extra rerolls from playing random I never see it
>>573395868zoomers have been raped of critical thinking skills ever since schooling from kindergarten to university have been turned into lefty brainwashing centers ran by middle age childless women
>>573395868>More competitive games come out that cater to more competitive players>Competitive players get more heated because they're competitive players playing a competitive gameWhat a shock. Try using a server browser for a 6v6 game with 30-60 minute matches where you're supposed to level up over time and being down a player means you eat shit. It sucks ass.
>>573395868tbf if i never experienced it with tf2 i'd doubt your pic's system would work as well as it does (well used to, tf2 is fucking dead)but no anyone younger than ~28 or so have no experienced server browsers so they just think "this is how games are, its normal to be mad 50% of the time"
being 20k ahead at 14 mins is something so beautiful. seeker is a soul healing experience
>>573395857im emissary and mid is like a mythical objectivei was muted for like a week and kept losing because no one went mid after getting picksnow i can ping and type again i just literally type mid and you automatically win the game after holy shit
Unc's crying about the kids on his lawn again...
>>573396640that's disgusting
>>573396560your faggot little attitude is why the "competitive" servers always died off firstesports is a failed concept, stop trying to force it
>>573396560Nta but both cs and dota started in browser era and lasted 60m. Leavers did suck btw but idk if could say they were any more frequent. I think if you adjust for nostalgia they probably suck about the same
>>573396640if you squint the thumbnail kinda looks like the crotch of a woman
Deadlock needs a healslut character
>>573396919is everything okay, anon?
>>573397059the transvestites already have celeste and she's currently broken OP to make sure they keep playing
queue times are really long in seeker. also rank jumped up to arcanist 3 from alchemist 5 with one match>>573396919it sure does
>>573397059buy healbeam on whichever character you want to be a healslut, stupid nigger
>>573396910The vast majority of CS servers weren't 5v5 and leavers were regular in my experience on top of just a much less competitive atmosphere because you can't really foster one with server browsers. You basically had to join IRC and actually coordinate games if you wanted anything close to a competitive match without relying on pure luck.
>>573397283Yeah but what if you had two heal beams?
>>573397429buy healing nova too faggot nigger
>>573397335>You basically had to join IRC and actually coordinate games if you wanted anything close to a competitive matchthat's the same as today, its called scrims, the only difference is you forced how the game "HAS" to be played onto the entire playerbase and removed their ability to play
>>573396836Comp servers died off because they, low player count games in general, don't work well with server browsers. You're just whining that you aren't being catered to and that people prefer things you don't.
>>573397335My bad I was lumping irc and browsers together
>>573397547Okay.... BUT... hear me out... TWO healing novas?
>>573397059Paige is perfect for it
>>573397618>hey wanna try out deadlock?>dude... is there anything other than this ranked mode?>uhh no there's this other RNG thing>yeah no im goodactual conversation i've had 4 different times trying to get other people to playthen people wonder why player count is shit and there are 0 updates for 6+ months
>>573397547>AI slop
>>573388037He just does negative damage. They nerfed him so bad that hes a throw pick at all ranks. He isnt even viable for bebop onetricks anymore.>>573391740This guy cannot be trusted in society. Punching down to feel self worth >>573391673Same for this guy. Smurfing and tryharding, using a meta build in pisslow. You have a killstreak and double the souls of anyone. Just let the noobs play with eachother or at least make a funny/troll build. Instead of shooting up the kindergarten.
>>573396631man, tf2 deserved a better fate than what it got. meet your match was the update that killed casual mm for comp mm right? it worked out so fucking wonderfully, the game that's designed to be wacky and lighthearted/casual sure fucking needs competitive mode!!i also love queueing up for a match only to be dropped into a half dead server that has 10 seconds left on the clock because someone ragequit and now you're taking their spot on the team. and then watch the shitty ass animation and scoreboard and then load THE SAME MAP AGAIN, but with only 3 players remaining because everyone else left.
>>573397895have you tried not being friends with casuals?
>>573398075tf2 comp was greatyou just had to play it in like 2010-2011 where you queued on tflobby
>>573397059the problem with healslutting in this game is that you're expected to buy 4 actives as a support and that defeats the whole "turn off your brain and keep the healbeam on the duo you're pocketing"if you aren't juggling rescue beam, curse, knockdown, slowing hex etc on your Paige people are going to get pissy
it's absurd that you can be in phantom with a 40% winrate>lose 4 games>no change>win 1>go up two subranksif i'm dogshit why do I play against better players
>>573398103how is anyone supposed to learn the video game if they are not allowed to play the video game?you underestimate how badly overwatch and league have made the average player hate ranked systems, you need to have a separate queue for them to enjoy it >well street brawl does th...completely different game
>>573398273hello eomm agent
Another day of shiv not being nerfedAnother day of not playing deadlock
>>573397895So, your problem isn't with matchmaking but just seething that ranked is currently forced in the alpha version of the game?
Another day of silver not being buffedAnother day of not playing deadlock
>queue in to a shiv on enemy team>abandon instantlyI don't care anymorepenalize me all you want, that's just more break from this gay shivmeta
>>573398073Im still winning every game on bebop at phantom 5/ascendant 1, bomb bops are a seeker thing
>>573398273you are a valve-sponsored elo rapist, you're there purely to die 12 times in a game to make someone either lose a game or win a game. part of your payment for such services is being boosted in rank beyond your capabilities
>>573398273if you're a soloq player you're expected to have a sub 50% wr at your true skill rank
>hidden king gets one of our shrines and we push them back>we get one of their shrines and they push us back>they get our last shrine and we push them back>we get their last shrine and drop>we get midboss and winan actual close game, wow
>>573398924>4 actives>no trans cooldown
Niggas will say they're just casual players who only care about having fun and then have a mental breakdown over the mere prospect of a rank being attached to them in a game that isn't even out yet.
>>573399012surviving is literally the only thing that matters, you can apologize to me now
>>573397059>deadlock needs to be like my tranny slopstay in seeker
>>573384284Not just Russians, all slavic nations. They all pull this same shit and cheat given the chance.t. had to train these cheating fucks back in 2015
>>573398273>>573398457I've had my entire page be red with me being the bottom of the scoreboard, and through that I went from Arcanist to low Emissary...I don't want to be a fucking agentI want off Gabe's (unpaid) internshipJust let me stew in my shit elo where I can build random crap and not be a burden to anyone
>que into archmother>abandon instantly
>>573399237REMBVLL....
>>573398273I LOVE HAVING THE OPPOSITE PROBLEMWIN FIVE GAMES LOSE TWO ALL KEY PLAYER RANK UNCHANGEDTHANK YOU YOSHITSKIN
>>573399237Doesn’t matter,eido is better than you and he used to buy headhunter on minaRank doesn’t mean you play perfect
>>573398801join me brother>>573392420
>>573392420KING
>>573395427yes my niggers have no fucking clue how to teamwork you're right my bad. totally ignore my comms and spread like retards and never focus anyone or communicate themselves. totally on me.
What are some heroes that are good at hyperfixating a lane's objectives?I've been doing just that as mcginnis and wraith, staying in one lane at all times no matter what.Team fight? nopeWalker dying? nopeIn our base? nopeOne lane, One mind!I'm thinking of doing Sinclair because he can really nuke objectives with vexing bolt
>>573399476I had 4 different opportunities to upgrade to T4 cd that game and I chose to buy more T4 greens instead because the enemy team was starting to focus me and it workedI just won't buy trans cd to get my curse and knockdown a few seconds faster because... I just won't. LOL!
>>573399320anyone still playing this game in 2026 except for the lols is mentally deranged and SHOULD have someone throw their game
>>573399951I accept your concession
>>573400076you lost seekerchud
>>573400076accept my dick in your ass
>>573396631>its normal to be mad 50% of the timeI feel like that’s purposely built into the system as part of that psychological principle called a variable-ratio reinforcement schedule (rewarding players at unpredictable intervals) to maximize dopamine release and keep them playing that most AAA games use. although with how old school valve is I wouldn’t beyond them to include a server browser (or atleast a arcade mode like Dota 2) for Deadlock down the line, only issue with that is with how small the player limit for a match you’d probably end up with some people getting pseudo Online Evaluation Anxiety and refusing to participate now that that the 2nd step anonymity commitment of random matchmaking has been removed
I'm looking for a third hero, currently playing apollo and bebopSuggestions?
sorry, the streamer build i follow says to buy that so i will call you bad on dlg for not buying it
Had a Rem and his Infernus buttbuddy going 1/7 both that fed Dynamo and Geist trying to call the shots on macro and bullying our Bebop because he didn't follow his dogshit takes like "we should stick around the enemy walker as the gigafed Geist respawned and we're all 3 at low health" or "where did you go Pocket?" as he got nuked to 200HP by one Bomb. Poor Bebop, he said he's uninstalling because of toxicity.
idk if these matches are even worth reporting anymore. i think ive debunked the claim that you cant climb from seeker. you can literally just 1v11 these medium bot matches
>>573399951i always focus the rem. his visage fills me with rage
>>573400134Just because something works doesn’t mean it was the right play. Focus on the process not the single resultIt would have helped your cheat death and indom cd too
>>573399951retarded boosted support player just like in marvel rivals lol supports are delusional because they can just press 2-3 buttons and autowin and don't have to care about macro/farming
>>573400554Its always funny to see those pics/webms of someone killing a random Rem and a comically sized ball of “I just threw the entire game” souls is floating above the body
>>573399335It’s the music, King gets you hyped for the fight ahead
i buy trans cooldown as my first t4 with 0 actives because im trans :3
>>573401119Based alpha Silver main
>>573400543>cant even get past the 2nd lowest rankoof
>>573400567not me, I'm not interested in debating it and I don't actually care what rank you areI only care about you accepting my cock up your butt>>573400776>you're playing a SUPPORT, you must be a SUPPORT PLAYER, you cannot just play whatever heroes you feel like playing at a given momentcope bitch ass lil nigga
>>573401498It's always funny seeing onetrick fags projecting>Nooo I'm a onetrick you must be one too, you're a X playerImagine limiting yourself to one role or character. I queue up on 18 heroes because I'm not homosexual
one weird thing that happened in the previous match is that the lil seekies actually tried doing mid once they got a pick>>573401452i went from alchemist 1 to arcanist 6 since starting today. gonna go to the next match end report back to you once my rank updates
>>573401452chat, how do we salvage the non-existent literacy levels of /dlg/ and 4chan in general?
No silver in night shift? Not even banned?Is the delusion broken?
Egyptian themed hero when?
>>573401717buff incoming
>>573401657>>573400543kinda half and half for me, I think it's entertaining to see these things get debunked, but as far as convincing the crowd who perpetuates this stuff anyway it's not going to work. you can drop 30 kills in every trench lobby and people will just say "well you got lucky with your teammates, if /I/ get 30 kills we lose every time" or whatever
Friend and me have been playing for a similar amount of time. We've played similar amounts of matches and have similar K:D ratios. He's Alchemist and I'm still stuck on Initiate 6/Seeker II but we can't figure out why he's going up and I'm staying hard stuck. Would playing only support heroes do that even if I'm getting a decent amount of kills per match?
>>573401851if you belong higher and play heros that gimp your ability to carry then yeslook at the furfag who keeps posting, if he played healer paige or something i'd bet my life savings his rank wouldnt have changed, he specifically picked silver because its a dive-character with no counter if you're facing off against shitters who don't know basic movement
>>573401851well please screenshot us your total matches and wins and then his total matches and wins. theres not much else to it
>>573400776>>573401498Should have been obvious from the lobby avg anyway an E6 player isnt queueing into an ascendant game unless they have low hero mmr aka low amount of games
Shiv nerfed into the ground btw.
i cant feel the impact of t4 items at all im just buying whatever SHOULD be good but its not like when you buy daedalus or butterfly in dota 2
So glad night shift is showing how broken shiv is
>>573399243>>573397192How's your obsession going?
>>573402241it's not hero mmr, although I do not have many games on Rem, with the low player count and playing during off-hours it's not uncommon for high eternus players to queue into ascendant games atm
>Avoid This Hero>You will be less likely to see this hero in this match.>proceeds to see banned hero in every game anywayok
>>573401668>salvage the non-existent literacy levels of /dlg/ and 4chan in general?Shits been terminal since 2003
>>573402332Depends on the item, on the timing and against what comp you're using it against
>>573402354>ctrl-f "trans">responds to people from hours ago who werent talking to him>calls people obsessed
>>573402368sure joechuck sure
>>573402418>join match>Giest and Venator bannedthis shit feels random
>>573402418this needs to be fixed, i dont want to play against shiv, i dont give a fuck if im in queue for an hour, let me sit there so i can play something fun while i wait instead
>>573402473i mean legit ive never felt silencer impact is there even an effect when it procs? spellslinger yeah its noticeable on your reload timesiphon bullets? honestly couldnt tellcrippling headshot? nopespellbreaker? nopejuggernaut hell yes -40% firerate is very noticeablefuck man i feel every item needs some unique effect or we need debuff icons like wow on health bars
>>573400543>i think ive debunked the claim that you cant climb from seekerThank you for your service.
>>573402749I see shiv in nearly every match and have for a week now. He's banned and it does nothing.
>>573396919i see it
>>573402418>join Street Brawl>Haze and Calico banned>enemy team is Lash, Graves, McGinnis, Sevenbit cruel
>>573402921>>573402749i'm on account #3 now:>>573392420
>>573402967>Oathkeeper will get his payment!
holliday niggers be like im going to lasso a 50% hp enemy and jump around like a nigger ape so my teammate can't shoot them also bonus points if i drag them behind a wall so everyone has to fucking turn 180 from the teamfight in front of them hehe
>>573392420>>573403089do you make sure to berate them for abusing shiv before you afk
>>573402418Is Doorman still the most banned?Always seemed weird when he needs a niche amount of setup to be a real threat
>>573403175>"Tyin'em up!">does the willy wonka wall triple cancel crouch slide back to wall into the double jump>"WHY DIDNT YOU KILL HIM I HAD HIM ROPED UP!"
>>573402681picrel has 130 games on geist
>>573403303>shift-enter>"I'm afking because shiv is on our team, goodluck enemy team"usually followed by seething and lols and me running around stealing all the farm
>>573403447>use all abilities and ammo during a team fight>teammate lassos someone and brings them to directly 2 feet from my face>have to limply heavy melee them since I had fuck all to contribute
>release woman hero with big gun>people build around said big gun>dev gets mad and hypernerfs itCan somebody explain to a 31yo who peaked at Emissary why McGunnis was such a problem?
>koth urn>everyone is very aware of comeback resists and will actively let the losing team secure the urn and fight afterwards>koth rift mechanic>everyone suddenly forgot about comeback resists and will try to fight in these same situationswhy
what a fucking disgusting looking chart
>>573404195It used to be a bell curve and people complained
Out of curiosity, I've made a poll to see what ranks everyone here in /dlg/ is in. I'm pretty sure it should work as intended.https://strawpoll com/kjn1DkAq7yQ
>>573404195>turn off voice chat>turn off text chatYup, its time to queue some phantom (and lose and fall into oracle and then win again)
>>573403175Ah, yeah, why isn't Holliday just standing still in the open so the entire enemy team can focus her because you suck at aiming and can't turn around? Why is she separating a player from their team so her entire team can pile on them instead of just tanking all the damage like she's Abrams while giving the enemy a chance to save them?
>>573404195This is all you need to see to know this game's ranking system is a joke. Even SF6 has a better distribution than this.
>>573403937You can say that about any character in this game>here’s a new character that does 90% of its damage from spirit>oh fuck it does too much spirit damage>disgusting amount of spirit nerfs>playerbase adapts and makes it work>more nerfs
>>573403937for certain heroes yoshi decides that they can't actually have shit, so he nerfs literally every single build they have
I am very bad at the game and die a lotshould I start shit with my team at the beginning of every round so they think I'm just inting and not genuinely shit?
>>573403937ugly woke cunt design that prevents people from playingsame with caligo and wraith>but that's racist!Yes.
>>573404195>took me 7k hours to get to 25 percentile at dota>took me 200h to get to 50 percentile at this gameI'm actually okay with this.
>>573404195The fact that Statlocker can't get most games without players manually uploading them to the point it regularly messes up people's ranks makes this chart completely worthless.
>>573404685manual uploading leans more towards sweats and higher rank players uploading more games than other ranks tooas well as the fact that they naturally just play the game more
>>573404465Based. Oracle Chuds don't deserve to be spoken to or heard>t. Oracle Chud
>>573404440dlg has like 5 people apparently
>>573404685That’s even stranger, who the hell is uploading their stats in the bottom ranks?
>>573404195should be a decreasing curve
>>573404474>everyone is "master" rank because uh... lolthis is even more retarded
>>573399780I'm thinking about doing this myself, I'm too tired of having 30 minutes games with 0 flex slots. I might just perma push walkers and ignore everything else, just not mindlessly or suicidal like wallfucker victor
>>573400543When you keep in mind that Deadlock has a forced bell curve rank distribution, the fact that Seeker players are so catastrophically bad makes me wonder if Ascendents should basically be treated as equivalent to Eternus since they're opposite ends of the bell curve from Seeker and I honestly don't know how the hell anyone could even fall to Initiate
>teams not picking Rem anymore>his pick rate was already declining pre-heal nerfbring back the crazy heals Yoshit
gun ivy30 deaths out of a single sidelanethese games are great!!!!!!!!!!
>>573405150honestly i think its betterfilter out 90% of the retards and only the top 10% get to play with eachother, you get stomped if you're the 10% but you get to learn with the 1%, you've already drank the koolaid you're not gonna quit because some fag shits on you and if new players work their way up they actually have something to get to
>>573405429>filter out 90% of the retardswrong, 90% of the retards are in the top rank with you now and you have to play with them
>>573405150SF6's rank distribution is dogshit, to be clear, it has really really bad rank inflation because anyone who plays even somewhat often is masters. That's why I'm saying it's sad that Deadlock is even worse.
>>573404195Why is it basically always Oracle that's the hardstuck rank? I feel like it's been like this in every patch.
>>573405150It's retarded but not quite in the way you're thinking. Master rank is basically a different ranked system that actually uses elo while the regular system tries to push people towards master and lets them grind ranks with sub 50% winrates. Why? Because FG devs are dumb as fuck. Getting master also ends up being incredibly demoralizing for a lot of people because there's no placement matches for it so as soon as they get their new rank they end up immediately eating shit for several matches until they drop 100-200 rating.
>>573405603because the mmr system has been edited to punish you harder for losing when above oracle and reward you more for when you win below it
>>573405603Because "smurf detection" is dogshit and incorrectly places new players too high and E6 smurfs too low, which is usually around archon/oracle for both groups. Games are inconsistent in terms of skill level so people who actually climbed to that rank are just constantly playing with people much worse or much better than them.
>everyone still complaining about matchmakingname ONE competitive game that has a good matchmaking, rank and mmr system.
>>573405745Deadlock
>>573405745Deadlock after the next patch. Trust.
>>573405745there isn't one, that's why they all suck and it should be removed
>>573405574>anyone who plays even somewhat often is masters. that's because sf6 lets you ban players for literally any reason so people just duck everyone that beats them and grinds the remainder
emissary-archon border is where graves skulls stop workinggive me proper minion hero for fucks sake
>>573401784They should be a particularly old vampire whose skeleton is a separate being based off the Egyptian God of War, who in the modern day works as a lounge singer and is a massive diva but is otherwise retired from her days as a murderous vampire conquerer in favor of easy living until one day they are tempted by blood and power and set out to begin their conquest anew Pic unrelated
>>573405745I kinda wish we couldn’t see ranks at all with how borked the current system is, With smurfs running rampant too it’s basically a gamble to what you’re loading into
>>573405914What's funny is this build was still working fine last month and I've been around that rank this entire time. I think people just finally watched that andrew chicken video about how to counter her skulls. Weird how she got nerfed over and over in a short span of time then gradually got even worse because people slowly learned how to counterplay on top of the nerfs she got. Who could have seen that coming?
Bebop's hook needs fixed.Pulling people around walls wasn't fun in overwatch with roadhog and it isn't fun now.
Imagine if Bebop's hook had a two minute cooldown and made him swap places with the enemy.
>>573406042C’MON, SAY ‘ELLO TO MY MATES
when are they going to fix active item aiming?
How the hell do you play calico?It just seems like her damage is piss poor.Am I doing something wrong?
>>573406274Her damage is quite low unless fed, she exists to kill people at low health and confirm kills
>>573406013There's a mod that stops you from seeing your rank called Yoshi'd Ranks I turned it on because it was obsessing over it too much
What even makes for a good matchmaking system?
>>573406274anon you're not supposed to pick the black characters, that's why they're black
>>573406472Me winning and having good teammates.
>>573405745Heard Rocket Leagues is great since your ass is not climbing against the absolute fuckin’ specimens that rule over the higher ELOs that learned the games physics system to a borderline obsession level degree
>>573404474>slop fighter trannylolGo 41% yourself sis
/dlg/ give me your best gameplay tips for the hero "Pocket' in valve's newest moba deadlock
>>573406472none>>573395868
>>573406436Sounds quite nice actually, might pick this up.Thanks Anon
>>573405327eternus players fall into initiate all the time and intentionally by making smurfs. so the bell curve stays as is
>crossdresser mina all over nightshift>isn't going to open an OF like sneakywhat's the point...
super kinda cute ngl
>>573395868to be fair how would you have a server browser for an ASSFAGGOTS where matches are like 30-40 minutes? it's not like tf2 where you can easily drop in/drop out with minimal interruption. would it really work if it was like custom lobbies where you join and nothing happens until all 12 players are there to start a game?
okay the last match went kinda bad and im pretty embarrased about it. still won but i had quite a bit of dumb deaths and i was behind>>573401452ritualist 2 now. alchemist 1 to ritualist 2 in a day
>>573407046You don't. Not without it feeling incredibly shitty. He's just a retard mindlessly seething.
>>573407097>okay the last match went kinda bad and im pretty embarrased about it. still won but i had quite a bit of dumb deaths and i was behindthe cope beginscan't wait until he hits actual netural mmr at oracle and starts claiming victory
>The team with shiv is winningWow! Shocker!
>>573407097jesus christ.
>>573406472>MatchmakingA key problem is consistency is a integral part of skill.Matchmaking works perfectly in most iterations in 1vs1 games, and if you have organized preset teams past that.It works okay in rng 2vs2/3vs3.When you get to 5vs5 and 6vs6 in the case of mobas, there is too much variability of the specimens you get without warning day to day for matchmaking to ever be worth a shit.
>>573407046Really the only way to make it work is having custom maps that entice people to join, maybe some odd shit like double souls or 12v12
>>573406639hes a gun character masquerading as a spirit character; T2 cloak is his best upgrade, though theres an argument for T3 ult too
uhh what the fuck how are they inserting ads into my stream like this?
>>573404474>>573405150>>573405574SF6's ranking system pushes everyone upwards with point inflation (there's always more net MMR gained per match than lost). Once you get into Masters it uses a true ELO system in thatyou'll be losing dozens of sets starting at 1600 until you get to where you belong. IIRC Japan goes all the way to 800-900 while NA 'only' bottoms out at 1200-1400.Additionally your Masters ELO resets at the start of each season, so there's a ton of inactive Masters players at base 1600.That's why in SF6 rank is the tutorial, while Masters is where the game actually starts being played. Because at that level you don't chase a rank, you play for the love of the game.
>>573407824>he unironically watches streamershahahahahahahahaahhaha
>>573405745chess and tft
I know mercurial is good, but is it really THAT good? I've done tests with it and while it does result in a large DPS increase, by end game when I look at the damage charts it almost never exceeds 2000-3000 damage total, even when purchased relatively early (around 20-30k souls).
>>573407824Twitch is a goddamn mess, I join a buddies of mine stream and I’m hit with 4 ads, change resolution I get 4 ads, watch in anything beyond widescreen there’s a ad on the side, go to a different tab and they PAUSE THE FUCKING AD until you come back
>>573408147The streamers and twitch need the money ok. They are working hard consuming media all day that someone else made, while calling themselves the content creator.Y'know, it's kind of like when a 400lb man eats the entire buffet and calls himself the master chef
>>573407574>1v1 MM is goodGive the starcraft general a visit
>>573408147my blocker usually catches them all but this is new.
Please Yoshi I need more stuns in my game!!!
>>573408147The ad pausing when you try to tab out made me stop using the site even to watch esports events for a while. I have ublock and a script some guy shared to block twitch ads now but youtube is always better if the option exists.>>573408364lol
>Power randomly goes out>By the time it comes back and net finally reconnects the game is over>"You are temporarily banned from playing this mode"I HATE LIVING IN A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY (UNITED STATES)
>>573408364It’s kinda funny that streaming makes fuck all money to anyone aside from the streamer, twitch is dying from a thousand cuts trying to sustain itself meanwhile the sub 50 IQ cymbal monkey hosting the stream gets a easy 10k playing a game for 40 minutes
>>573402418I have Apollo permabanned.
spirit rem with no active items in a 33 minute game
>>573408978Me me me. I never buy active items and still go positive with high damage
>>573407046Idk, I play Deadlock despite the fact that it's an ASSFAGGOTS not because of it. They could pull that entire element out of the game for all I care
>>573408978>>573409072i'd rather have a spirit burn reverb rem than healing temp divine barrier
I don't buy active items on any characterskills alone are enough to think about I don't wanna add to that
>>573408147this was a joke back then and now reality
What's the point of Ivy?>build for 1>just walk out lmao>build around gun/2>99% of time I'm reloading>build around 3>just walk away lmao>build around 4>you are now a ferryI don't understand.
>>573409548(me)forgot the image
>>573409649>build around 4picrel is the ideal ivy build
>>573409072Imagine Silver reverse-raping Rem haha.
>>573402304Shiv is always going to be overpowered so long as he has zero weaknesses, and an ult that is just 'The enemy team loses 30% of their max HP'.
venator is so fucking slow holy fuck this nigga cannot move
>573410084kill yourself
ritualist 4 now. i think thats it for today. from alchemist 1 to ritualist 4 in a day
>>573410251Yeah he's unfortunately an actually balanced character unlike Holliday, Celeste, Apollo, Shiv, and all these other faggot characters with absurd mobility.
>>573410289interesting, because you care so much about your rank (which a new player wouldn't) and are ranking up so quickly I can surmise you're probably an orcale/phantom player who made a smurf.I would know because I did the same thing and would go up 2-3 ranks for my first 20ish games
>Enemy Silver always rapes my team>Silver on my team is always feeding>Enemy Vindicta always rapes my team>Vindicta on my team is always feedingWhy does this keep happening?
>>573410613if you soloq you're just used as eomm fodder for stacks
>>573410552oh i shouldve specified that yeah im smurfing. i took my brothers account made on a different pc to avoid getting my rank from hwid seeded. my main is asc6. im doing this for a variety of reasons but one is to check the validity of the claims that you cant climb from seeker "because teammates bad"
>>573410613Ivy looks pretty stacked here...
>>573410768does it have the same ip?
>>573410613>ivy with boobsoff model slop, kill yourself
>>573410820She made them herself!
in my last 10 games I have been the only one on my team who tried taking a walkerI am going insane
>>573410845no
>>573410820>>573410875I literally don't have any mods, this is optical illusion
>oooh night shift is on> the team with infernus is down but since they have infernus they eventually start nigger raping the other team and now they have a soul lead>close nightshift
>>573408694be happy you don't have to play this garbage, nigga
why is cultist in every fucking build
>>573412242money and stats good
2nd gun ivy
Favelabros is this true?
>abrahams abusing tactical pauses once againgenuinely just ban russians from everything, they cheat at everything in any way they can
>>573412706a monkey that's not playing dota poo 24/7? that's surprising
>>573412706ArgentinianARYANS buckbreaking BRAPzilianYou love to see it
>>573412706I love how the NA narrative that Europeans are all tranny racemixers falls apart as soon as you try to play in EU and open your mouth as a non 100% white
>dns stream buffers>still frame of a fight at pit>entire screen covered in a green glow>flaming particles flowing upwards through the green>4 row HP bars filling the background>massive glowing doorman rectangle in the corner, it's light piercing through everythingWhat even is this fucking game? The goggles do fucking nothing
>>573413226the visual clarity here is worse than fucking overwatch, and that's saying something
>>573413161>opens mic>"dayum niggas was cracking up in heuh">nobody wants to listen to him crying for more gibshmm why are they racist indeed
it's cool we're a month or two away from a big patch and the only thing we know about it is potentially that purple cat thing (if that was even real??). Last time we knew most of the characters and even what their abilities did before hand.
>>573413418>worse than overwatchdelusionalit's only bad if you don't know what characters do, OW was bad because you'd have the same characters throwing out the same abilities on both teams
>>573413629>month or two from big patch
>>573413838if they're smart they'll do the item patch AFTER the content patch, way more people will be playing to test it.
why is the timing for the dash jump so fucking tight?
buen trabajo
>>573414275idk wtf they're "testing" anymorethe balance changes are just "make hero number bigger hero do gooder"the urn changes are "forced teamfight mean aoe hero better"this data is worthless just spend more time making content
>>573414275nah items should come after new heroes.
this is why Deadlock development is so slow.the game is still irrelevant to what's already on the market and they have much bigger fish to fry in getting SteamOS, Steam Machine, Steam Frame, Steam Controller, and [HLX] working.
>>573414874>closed alpha game that requires an invite is less popular than f2p games that have existed forevercalling you a retard doesn't really capture how dumb of a post this is. most comments on any media of this game is "how do i play it"
>>573414874enhanced edition.
whats better? spirit billy or gun billy?
>>573414874dota 2 and counter strike both have the same speed or slower development teamsit's slow because valve is light on staff and has no outside pressure
>>573415024deliberately misunderstanding, or illiterate?
>>573411702>oooh night shift is on>one team is down but they make a comeback instead of instantly losing>close nightshift
>>573414286lol skill issue
>>573415221Stfu infernus abuser
>>573415130killing yourself for being a b*lly main
VINDICTA IN NIGHT SHIFTI REPEATVINDICTA IN NIGHT SHIFT
Idea! Ricochet vindicta
>>573415042What's the point of comparing two games at the end of their development cycle with a skeleton crew working on them versus an in-development closed alpha game >>573415151 also this
>>573410289>started using shiv to copehahhhaaahhahaahahahahha
>>573415717>What's the point of comparing two games at the end of their development cycle with a skeleton crew working on them versus an in-development closed alpha gameShitposting. (You)'s.
>>573413161>one time i had a whole entire team throw our game because i was black
>no Silver againI think they might FINALLY be prepared to admit it! The delusion might be over!Who am I kidding, they'll never admit it. They'll just pretend it never happened
why are people playing this game at 1280x960 like it's CS?
>used to spam drifter games when he was a literal throw pick>tanked my rank>now he's one of the best heroes>don't have the time to play this patch>he will get nerfed into uselessness next patchPain
What happend to all the nightshift sponsors, did they lose them?
>>573415686Funny how that is an unusual situation nowadays, and there are people that defend her rework when her stacks are virtually nonexistent because she gets raped late regardless.
this echo shard tornado shit is such aids
>>573416407>two american sponsers fund an american tournament>EU teams sweep and humilate the whole NA scene>EU doesn't even have walmart
>>573415505>lolI don't even play league
>>573410768Why bother making up excuses as to why you're smurfing? Just say you're doing it to be a shithead and steamroll lobbies to stroke your ego, everyone already knows climbing is easy if you outskill your rank.
>>573417502>everyone already knows climbing is easy if you outskill your rank.Not him but there are plenty of people, particularly on this website, that'll genuinely tell you it's all luck and eternus players struggle to get back there on alts.
Shiv is so disgustingly overpowered, holy
>>573417825its what happens when you change a character and buff his other abilities, only to revert the change but keep his buffs for some retarded reason
>>573415686support vindicta lol
>>573417991Wasn't she always played like a support in DNS?
I know nobody asked but>Dota 2 fixed matchmaking by creating the behavior score system>not only are you consistently matched with equally skilled teammates, it also matches you with people who are as mentally consistent with youThere is literally no better way to do it and people still cry.
>abrahams at a slight disadvantage ever>"PAUSE PAUSE PAUSE WE'RE LAGGING"ban these niggeroids already
pocketbros not like this
>>573418154Think I saw a carry Vin when GT was dominating a few weeks back
>>573418242deadlock already does this behind the scenesdota still provides me with teammates who go 0/14there is no fixing matchmaking, you're playing a team game and being assigned random, often antisocial teammates
>>573418536Did she win?
>>573418269So I'm not the only one who thought this
>>573418242we just need their ranked all pick mode.current mode will become quick play unranked mode.
>>573418620Don't think so but she did good enough I wanted to try her
>>573418648I don't think it's really a secret. They did it last match to peel for somebody who was 100% dead if they didn't, then unpaused without waiting for the other team to say they were ready. Even the casters called it scummy, but they just keep letting it happen.
>>573406042
>>573418791Got a rough time stamp (game 2 mid game?)
>>573418821not at a level where bebops hit these but talon arrow and yamato slash are just as if not more generous around corners
>>573419152https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2815232982?t=03h05m03s
>>573419440>spot yamato alone that's ahead>see her cast le rope of geometry ignoring on me>resign myself to an uninteractive death
>>573414610that's literally what i said
Burgers better pick some SilverI don't think these pros realize, but their tournament is fucking BORING when they aren't doing stupid shit. I think they think people are watching them because they're "good" at the game, as opposed to because they're clowns
>>573419575Thank you my cute friend. Yeah wtf was that. Scummy as hellIf it was one time maybe you could pass it off as a coincidence but every one of their pauses happened during a player of theirs in a pickle
>>573418242Behavior score is placebo for most of the population, I know tons of dota players who are giga toxic/soft int games regularly and they're still 11k+.
>>573413418I can tell exactly what is going on here.
Long ass cat
>>573420176>solution is literally just don't be a nigger and have self controlTA I know dota players who are always toxic and then they cry about low behavior score and they say the same thing as you do.
>>573420380longcat is long
>>573420112You should spend less time thinking about complete strangers.
>>573420408Did you even read the post you're replying to?
>>573420492What on earth made you think I spend any time thinking about them? I'm remarking on the fact that they're fucking boring and a rough theory why
>>573420408Yes. You implied the behavior system doesn't work because people get away with bad behavior score. I countered that by saying every toxic Dota player I know has shit behavior score.Further questions?
ddk, homie, i assure you, however ugly you are, real or imagined, it cannot be as bad as this uncanny valley ai filter shit you got going on
>>573420706Ddk is completely AI generated, value is trying to completely cut out the middle man when it comes to casters
>>573420706He looks fine unless he's been in like an accident since the CS days. I'm half convinced he just doesn't know because there's no way he thinks that looks good.
Seven's ult is dogshit nowEspecially in team brawl, it's so awful.I understand that his 1-3 are very good and his damage is quite high but his 4 can't be this useless
>>573420946I remember shitting on his AI kitchen background and the next stream he changed it to the blank one he has now. So he listens to me, I'll relay a message What should I say?
>>573415686Vindictia is only good in low ranks, as soon as she starts becoming a problem you can just buy 2x knockdowns or phantom strikes and instantly shut her down
Is early max 2 Seven for ganking and early fights viable?
>>573421160>Vindictia is only good in low ranksNo, she is just horrifically inconsistent and support vindicta works all the way up to pro level. But the matchmaking won't actually put her in a support character slot so you'd end up doubling up or forcing a carry paige if you tried that.
>alleged "pro" players>mokrill isnt pick banTells me all I need to know about these shitters
This game doesn't need a sniper. Or at least not one designed like Vindicta.
>>573421360They only pick mokrill when a character is so grotesquely overpowered they need to lock it down and permarape it at all costs bro.So it does have a spot, but the draft situation is yoshi balance reliant for mokrill rn.
>slowing hex mystic slow duration extender kelvinthis feels like terrorism but i will not stop building it
>>573421497>They only pick mokrill when a character is so grotesquely overpowered they need to lock it down and permarape it at all costs broSo shiv?
Where Silver?
>>573421665I don't think they consider shiv threatening enough to roll it out, I forget the last time mokrill got stuck on locking down a balance problem duty but it might have been during a mirage meta.
It's get candy going to do the yamato urn trick or has that been patched?
>>573421726She's utterly fucking homeless nowBoth yurops and burgers have finally given up their irrational love for her
>>573404440Bringing more attention to this, just in casehttps://strawpoll com/kjn1DkAq7yQ
I like that the last patch finally fixed the glitching out with Rem's tag along on Mo & Krill when he tunnels, though it does mean now I can't use it for extended getaways. Womp womp.
>>573421464Okay Anon, you're in charge of the next hero, what archetype does Deadlock NEED?
>>573422276They should just bite the bullet and give us slork, trapper, wrecker and hoodwink
How is the pro scene for this game only like 30 people and there's like 5 of those people playing on an entirely different level?Is it just a game not worth investing into or is it so niche to be good at this?
>>573422770Still in alpha
Why are they banning Drifter?
>>573422886He got buffed alot
>>573421464Vindicta sucks tho.
>>573422770>How is the pro scene for this game only like 30 people and there's like 5 of those people playing on an entirely different level?Its not, there are a few hundred teams that show up to tournaments/random shit on and off, you are just watching the current best ones in two regions every week.
>>573422770Nigga, CS is one of the most popular games in existence with a gigantic esports scene for decades and one team has been shitting on everybody else for ages.
>>573422770Also, there isn't enough money for teams that don't consistently win stuff to really want to commit their time into turbo grinding it.If you hadn't noticed by the initial teams you see in each segment of dlns disappearing just to get replaced every now and then.
is spirit res mandatory now?
>>573421464>This game doesn't need a sniperI disagree.
>shiv once again in every single matchsomebody tell yoshi to just rework him already jesus fuck
>>573422276>Full Melee Hero (sadly Melee system is fucking horrible right now and badly needs a rework)>Spirit Ven>Sniper character that can line up shots by being able to hang onto walls>Frontline tank with a riot shield or something akin to it>Buff/Debuff Support>Duelist hero with a 1v1 me ULT >>573422969Good and I hope she's made worse until she's reworked>>573423258Read the full post anon.
>>573422276cool skeleton guy
Shiv is dominating NS so far.One loss due to retardation otherwise every other pick won
going to laugh when the hero shooter custom mode is more fun than moba deadlock
>>573421160>>573421281If I can give my two cents on the matter... Vindicta's issue is that there is a disagreement between two of her most important skills, her Flight (offensive, defensive and mobility skill all baked in one skill with a long cooldown, it has a very exploitable weakness that gets increasingly exploitable as the game goes on) and her ult (stacking effect that is stronger the longer the game goes on).Flight made sense with her old ult, since every part of her design was focused on handing her team early advantage and closing games quickly, but not anymore.Fixing Vindicta is very easy, they could either:1. Revert her back to her old design with souls on snipes and firerate that scales with spirit, solidifying Vindicta as a spirit focused early tempo character.2. Rework Flight as to not have such an exploitable weakness or remove Vindicta's dependency on the skill altogether so she is a gun/hybrid late game scaler with an unusual scaling method.>>573421464Vindicta's design isn't that bad, if you have a problem with traditional snipers GT or even Sinclair should be much worse for you.
maybe a hero shouldn't allowed to be unkillable, hyper mobile, and do trillions of damage all at the same time but what do i know about hero design :)
>>573422276Hoodwink
>>573422276Midget Ixian who fits the Imp phenotype and lives up to the mischievous nature quite well. Other than that idk, I just want an imp to play as
>>573424382I talked to yoshi he said "just pick mokrill"
>vindicta downplayers in THIS VERY THREADso we're just ignoring that a vindicta is immortal once buying indom+cs?
jesus...
>>573424853She is literally just worse grey talon
>>573424971E6 vs E7
>>573422770Fuck the pro scene where's the 4chan scene?
Whether she's on the enemy team or my own, having a Wraith in the game is the most boring thing ever. it always leads to the same result and rarely deviates
I giggle like a retard every time they say dmb because it sounds like dnb (dead nigger baby)
>>573424853>*buys phantom strike*
>>573425018hardstuck in seeker
>>573424971to be expectedwho the fuck even is the team of the left?
>>573424971AND THEY DO IT FOR FREE
>>573425029>press cs
>>573425190don't pretend like you can consistently cs phantom strikeyou did that maybe once and you still think about it to this day
>>573425264>you did that maybe onceThat person never played Vindicta in his life if he thinks she is "immortal".
>>573424853>vindicta is immortalCan those words even be used in a sentence together like that?
support ivy > gunslop ivy
since no one posted EU winners yet
>>573425547Stop using the "ugly ivy" mod
>>573425626why
wtf is counted as combat for spellslingerit literally just doesnt proc half the time
>>573425706It upsets me. I find it offensive
>>573425547>support character is best at supportno shit
>>573425718
>>573425748offensive in what way
>>573425857Visually and aesthetically.
>>573418821>ERM ITS REALISTICits not fun, which is why roadhog was fixed and bebop should be too
>>573425906Its fun for 11 out of 12 players in a match.
>>573425898thats how i feel with modern ivy i like her more being fugly cute
>>573424185To add, Vindicta is an alright support, these issues are specific to damage focused builds.Support Vin just has 2 issues: her ult does virtually nothing for supportive builds (in contrast to the extremely useful soul generation of her old ult) and it requires a lot of coordination to pull coordinated stake dives, moreso than most supports.
Why does mina have a tranny cosplayer instead of her in game art?
>>573426241It's funny
>>573426089>1 out of 12get owned
>>573426241It's tranny (this is important to americans)
>>573424185GT is his own problem and for sure needs to die but it's mostly number changes. Sinclair is the only thing saving Dicta from being the worst designed character in the game, I'll give you that.
>>573393341I have only ever seen latex discussed on 4chan. Granted I don't have my masters but many friends do, and I think they've all used word.
PICKEDPIIIIIIIIIIICKED
>>573425906that infographic was to indicate how it functions currently, the collision box for the ability is tiny compared to it's hurt/grab box, whilst also able to continue moving as long as the tiny line of the collision box doesn't collide with anything first.
>>573426885... and then lost lanetypical mutt
>>573410902SoooooWhat's the sauce???
i just tuned in, what happened to dew?
>>573428161He was in a freak dildo accident. He's out for a few months.
>Silver's team is leading>she's still the poorest hero in the game (as usual)
>>573428602Isn't part of the appeal of Silver the fact that she doesn't need many souls to come online?
>>573425118competitive seeker games sound awesome
>>573428668In theory yeah, in practice she lost lane and has had minimal impact afterward
>alleged "pro" players> they never get ricochet on infernus
>>573428161already burned out
Why did eido try to 1v1 there when mid boss was up?
>>573427903https://e621.net/posts/6444131
I haven't touched this game since the second wave of voting. What have they done do far to the map? Is it finally finished yet? Also, when do you think this game will come out? I assume early 2027 with a trailer very late this year?
>>573428668
>>5734295802028 at the earliest they are dragging their feet
jonjon and saiah are my otp
>>573429594She is good at being raped, especially in the new goatcum meta she is experiencing for tanks.
>>5734296502028? Wtf? This shit has been in early access since 2024 and it was originally supposed to come out a few years earlier. What the hell is taking them so long?
silver.........
>lose game>key playerthis means the loss was not and could not have been my fault. you cannot refute this.
>>573429886she wonliterally all her
>Pick Silver>WinHm...interesting...
>a shit talking 4/14 infernus with a build all over the place>a drifter with a stack of 6 at 31 minutes>A lash that made jungle his home all game>a forgettable ivy>a GUN paige>and me as a calico looking for any wounded opponents to mop up (there isnt)>somehow managed to scrape a win with this dogshit teamIm gonna gake a break.I won and still felt like I wasted my time queuing into that garbage.
#Shivneverloses
How do people do weighted shots on Drifter? He feels way too fucking slow.
>>573430814>equal lowest damage with support (but 50k less healing lol)>no structure damage>4-14-8>still winAnd THAT is why they call her S++++ver
>>573431065>Tanky character demands attention and focus fire from the entire enemy team enabling her team to winSounds like she did her job.
>>573431021It does feel awful doesn't it
>>573431219Billy did that while also actually contributing damage and cc
>>573431306Billy lost.
>>573396640>fov hacks
>>573431065why is calico being picked so much in these games there is no way any recent buffs made that nigger good again
>>573431358And Silver won despite doing nothingThat's why they call her S++ver, I'm telling you. Imagine how hard she would have won if she'd actually done something. The potential is real
>>573429580>https://www.playdeadlock.com/oldgodsMap visuals are mostly done, huge base reworks, new shaders that make the game look cartoonish, but map objectives are still undeveloped and they only just started trying stuff. Release Q2 2027 earliest imo. Q3/4 2026 is another couple heroes or possibly new map objectives but those will need to be tested. Lots of aspects about the game are undetermined and there are rumors they want to include some kind of PvE mode. Comp players want draft but Deadlock needs at least another full batch of heroes and reworks to current roster to prevent it from being the same 12 characters on repeat. Some top players seem to have given up on Deadlock but are too stupid to articulate feedback.
>>573429902means you didnt do enough actually
If they picked mokrill instead of calico they would have won
>>573431416>And Silver won despite doing nothingI told you what she did. You just don't want to listen.
>>573431386nta but doesn't victor aura zoom out your fov regardless
>Gives her carry an insane steroid just by existing>Aoe stun that is also an iframe and heals>Ult that gives her and her butt buddy insane mobility, damage steroid, and silence, on top of this it has almost no cooldownWhy does no one complain about Ivy? This bitch does way too much.
>>573431691But you lied, because even then she didn't take any more damage than anyone on her team except VenatorAs in, 4 other people on her team did the job you said she's doing better, while also actually contributing damage and pressureSilver upplayers really reaching hard these days, they're going for the desperate cope of "i'm making space" and even then it's actually false
>>573431917Her gun is also good enough to fight people solo and rat walkers.
You can see the dude in the middle just zoning out looking at DDK's AI cam
How long can Yoshi sit back and let Seven be an absolute menace?
>>573432289I dont blame him the filter is really over the top, its one step away from those asian streamer filters.
Drifter isn't THAT good but he's getting banned because he is good but no one likes playing him because he's been unplayable in comp since time began
>>573432451>i-is that seven U-ULTING?!? GULP>casts knockdown>he diesoh nevermind
>>573432501I have to ban him because in shitlow, everyone keeps feeding him 50 stacks before the 30 minute mark.
>s+ver not picked againDamn it I was hoping for the werewolf humiliation ritual to continue
>>573432451I'd rather Seven be one of the strongest character over Shiv or Mina. It's better for the game's health
>>573431917Maybe one in 40 ivy players I see ever make use of her insane macro potential, especially in lower ranks she's basically a non-issue purely because noone uses her strengths properly.
>>573432615>Has indomitable>Buy silencing wave to pop it and knockdown to cancel ultOr if he's actually intelligent>Just buy refresher instead and ult again
>>573432615arcanist hands typed this
Is it so hard to ask for a fortify mechanic or maybe a Treant protector character so my walkers dont flop immediately in the first 20 minutes.
>>573432984literally not needed when every character in the game can get across the map in under 15 seconds
Why don't they ban Shiv? Are these pros retarded?
>>573412706>get put on a 70 ping server that feels more like 200 because they stole all the copper or something>people already don't follow calls imagine if you can't even understand what mixture of mono boludo with other words in between he's saying nowthere was a chilean with 800 vac bans and pages upon pages of people calling them out for cheating in every free game under the sun toono it's great
Which team are /ourguys/?
>>573429580>second wave of votingyou mean the one with venator and silver? that was the last major update. we are still waiting for the next content to drop.
They need to nerf Paige's damage lol
>>573432870>>573432929>I should be able to counter two 6400 items and two ultimates with two 3200 itemsthis is you
>>573434832nobody cares about his ult except shitters stupid nigger.
is lardNM retarded?
i used to get commends for one tricking holliday but since her mega buffs i get hero bans and verbal abuse insteadnow I just play shiv and venator
>>573435245fuck the whiny niggersplay who you want
>>573435245>only plays cancer heroesno sympathy for you nigger jew
So are they finally going to ban shiv or pick mokrill to counter him?
>>573435627ironic coming from a faggot
>>573435741oh my god is this real?
>>573436060takes one to know one
>>573436012No, once they decide on something they will not change
>>573436243I miss Drew bros...
>>573436542Cute nose
>Graves and Seven duo lane>They kill the tower 2 minutes in
>>573436542same
can they stop pretending eido pocket is still good, let alone a fucking insta win.
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>573437567get used to streamer dicksucking, they need viewers
>>573437781Buying Silver a Johnny Silverhand
WarDAWGS WW@??
why is my guy kelvin so bad now?
For new characters they should release 5 more school girls and each one with a dif lich part to compliment Graves....
Silver status?
>>573439164Made for little kids.
>>573438707dome is kinda garbage right now but the rest of his kit is far from bad
>My lane partner abrams started the match afk, died right off the zipline>Only comes back every now and then to run it down their lane and die again, then go afk for more minutes>Tell the team i'm going afk base and they should too so the match ends faster>They get mad at me and say they're reporting meWe have a dude intentionally feeding from the very beginning of the match, why are they mad at me for going afk? some people are just too dumb
>>573439164Sad and drunk...
>>573439361the funny part is that you will probably catch a ban too from the mass reports
who's the mason of deadlock
Silver really gives me "the cool big sister" vibes
Viktor is as effective and braindead as people try to make Graves out to be
>>573439796usually sisters aren't transvestite men
the archmother promises many gifts
>>573440136>Bringing up trannies completely unprompted
>everyone on the team buys tankbuster>winsSo it was that easy huh
man drifter looking so strong this game LOL
>>573440585dey gon.... beg.........
>yamato is fun and braindead to play>keep ignoring her because 5headUPDATE WHEN YOSHIFUCK
i like melee creeps because all things considered they tend to keep the same roster consistent and i like the power of friendship :)
What does he do?
>the team with drifter and infernus lost>drifter fed the hardesteyup
>>573441315cheatGODS
>Vin ceased to exist past 15 minutes into the gameThis game just validated what anons said in the thread.
>>573442117floormen won 3 weeks in a row and then decided to completely implode crazy stuff
>warden does no damage nowwtf...
>>573441806Valve would never give her that fat ass and it's a damn shame.I do love the Lara Croft glasses all the mods seem to love to give her though.
>not even 50 characters >multiple 55%+ winrate characters each patch, some are allowed to maintain this winrate for months >multiple 45% or lower winrate characters How is it possible to have balance this fucking bad
this is grounds for a ban
>>573442259This is one of the most extreme prios I've seen so far.
>>573442571no? he's obviously trying
>>573442232Its weird, you are witnessing the equivalent of how esports would be if no esports orgs were involved.Just teams of players dumping each other out rapidly on performance and dissolving instantly just for people to move up and condense into another team strengthening it forever.MLC is one solid segment, but FPSL is basically the end sum of three or four teams at this point.
>>573442259Silver is so cooked...
>>573442745obviously hahaha! repeatedly fed away bags, lowest net in the games since min 1brand new steam accwow i love this yoshi
Why are Deadlock games so damned long?
silver had a 100% winrate this nightshiftjust throwing that out there
>>573442259my unicorn wife celeste nowhere to be seen...
NERF SHIV NERF SHIV NERF SHIV NERF SHIV NERF SHIV NERF SHIV NERF SHIV NERF SHIV NERF SHIV NERF SHIV NERF SHIV NERF SHIVFUCKING NERF SHIV ALREADY1 DAY TO REVERT NERFS BUT 8 DAYS AND COUNTING WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS BULLSHIT
>last 3 games>seeker average>oracle average>emissary averagewhat the fuck is happening with my games?
>>573444586True. Bitch NEEDS another nerf.KICK THIS DOG.
/dlg/ isn't ready for this trvke but nigfernus is the lowest skill floor/ceiling hero in the game while also having the highest reward potential
>>573445036But anon, Ivy is right there.
>>573445036Anecdotally, Every infernus player ive encountered fucking sucks.Its not even the meme where my team infernus bad, enemy team infernus good.Theyre all terrible
>>573442259>venator>7>lowest winrate hero in the gameis he just being chose as a safe m1igger?he seems just awful to me right now
>>573445260they ALL do the most retarded shit and I genuinely wonder how they ever kill anyone or do anything
>ult is countered by... spending 1 stamina to dash in any direction other than backwards>the turn speed now makes it impossible to track you if you hold W after the dashamazing design
>>573445989Yeah let's talk about those uppercut upgrades before we start buffing bebop anytime soon.
>>573445036isn't it graves? after she ulted and spawned skulls what can she even do other than hope they have nowhere to climb and avoid them
>>573446214>melee range abilityseeker or arcanist, call it>>573446612graves is the worst hero in the game buddy
>>573447000Man I wonder what ability bebop commonly uses before following up with his uppercut?
>>573444429its a moba
>>573445036That's just every m1gger though.
>>573447000>graves is the worst herofor now, it's a cycle
>>573432451It's much better that Seven is strong since he's fun to play, balanced, and fun to fight. Unlike Shiv, Mina, Infernus, Calico, Wraith, Silver, Apollo, Graves, Haze, Yamato, and a whole lot more.
>>573447120mobas are like 20-50 minutes, deadlock is like 50-75 minutes
>>573447075>getting hit by a skillshotseeker, got it
>>573429580The game's balance and minute to minute gameplay has literally only gotten worse. I'd suggest avoiding the game until things get fixed, if ever.
>>573447476>hook>"skill" shot
>>573421781Last time was when they needed to permarape some Celeste movement tranny that was clearing a wave's worth of boxes inbetween two waves.
>>573447663oh it's worse than I thought, initiate even
>>573445989because bebops hook is his real ult
Paige is built...
>>573447698
I have a literal 20% winrate on 15 games with Pocket (350 games total and Oracle). I wanted to be able to play the entire cast decently but looks like I'll have to write off some characters...
>>573448008well what do you thinks pocket job is?you might just be playing him wrong?
when are they going to remove gunslop
spiritslop needs to go it should just be a cherry on top not a focus
>>573447453pisslow in dota is also 50-75 minute gamesanother subtle hint that yoshi=icefrog
>>573445295if you can aim and position the man absolutely shits out damage.
>>573448248Been using this build (as a guideline not L>R) and trying to do some hit&run burst damage and get as many people afflicted in teamfights as I can.
>>573448683>following e-celeb ''top'' buildsgoycattle moment
>>573448683I mean more like>what do you think the purpose of this hero is>what should you be trying to do for your teamnot what build you are using.
whats the point of mina playersyou vacuumed half the map only to barely do more dmg than a supp remwow
>>573448546I just can't aim his ult, I miss at least 1 stake every time I use itand it feels important to use if ur playing m1igger style....
>>573449025someones mad they didn't get key player
>>573449025Rem vacuums more than minahe eats sinners for breakfast
>>573449108im the one that was killing everyone
>>573449025>rem doesn't spend time farming>takes teams sinners>spends all his time damaging enemies to build up damage done>basically 0 objective damage>despite it counting your buffed creeps as objective damage you dealt>despite being able to damage objectives from afar>mina has a bunch of objective damage>despite being awful at doing themyeah its her fault LMAOsounds like no one on your team would fucking hit objectives and she had to
>>573449160prove it
>>573448008how are you so fucking retarded you can't jump into a group and press 4you dont even have to live after that to continue doing damage like seven
>>573448978That's what I'm struggling with. I try to be a nuisance on squishy targets with burst damage and get the best ult in teamfights but even then I succeed at this better with other characters.
>>573449445post your most recent pocket match ID
>>573448432gonna pop YOUR cheery
>>573449532I'm not at home right now and my profile isn't uploaded so I only have the IDs of my matches from March:6794957968499228
>>573449820>posts matches you cant even look at the replay foryeah i can see why you have a 15% wr on pocket
>>573449912Didn't know there was a time limit, my bad.
>>573447453Average game time seems to be around 40 minutes, but I feel Icefraud wants to speed up games a little bit to bring that average down 5 minutes.
>>573450394I don't know if games are actually shorter after Rift slop but they definitely feel worse to sit through. Having telemetry that feeds you a 90 gorrillion line dataset is nice and all and you might clap when you hit your internal targets for xyz but your users enjoying the game is also good...
reminder if you solo q you're always at a disadvantageonly 4 people on your team can be in a party, while up to 6 people on the enemy team can be in a party
>>573445989I dont know what game youre playing because that laser has some extreme tracking.
why are all the pro teams picking infernus all of a sudden? he seems kinda mid
>>573449025I agree with the other anon. This looks like a game where Mina had to lane janny and push every objective while her team mindlessly brawled 24/7.
>>573449445Well to me, pocket isn't an assassin, you don't get shit done on your own unless you are gigafarmed.your job is ganker is and (soft) initiatoryou come up behind people while your teammate(s) are there and put them in a really bad spot, leverage your good mobility to get around and be the +1 to kill people and finish them off.you can't do shit on your ownyou warp stone in at the start of a fight, ult, cloak back, briefcase, and then the enemy either needs to retreat because of ur ult while ur team has a chance to go inyou don't really burst peopleyou just be the mobile guy who finishes them after and provides that little bit of extra damage
>>573451302>hold m1 in someones general direction for 1 second>they will now take 2000 damage over the next 5 seconds for free>any spirit heroes also cannot fight you back because of the -35% spirit damage output from your afterburn t1 passivehe has been the second most broken hero after mirage for over a year now
the riot version of this will be so much better ngl due to matchmaking/anticheat alone
>>573452117Rito is greenlighting new projects soon imo, the MMO is in limbo and their fighting game is a flop. Unless their chinks overlord think it's time to try working on le next big thing I don't think it's happening.
>>573451302I dont know but he's a literal nigger in lane. One of the most cancer play styles.
>>573452106>any spirit heroes also cannot fight you back because of the -35% spirit damage output from your afterburn t1 passiveOh no, the bane of spiritsloppers you couldn't one shot him with your combo? Go cry
>>573452336His laning phase is where he's the least dangerous and cancerous, what are you talking about ? He doesn't have his dash often so it's easily punishable, his magazine size and fire rate isn't big enough to proc afterburn fast enough unless he's an aim god or you're locked down and his afterburn damage is low + doesn't last long.I'd 100% rather lane against an Infernus than actual lane bullies like Geist or Vind.
>>573452463you seem upset
>>573452875
why the fuck are there new players on my team can we stop onboarding all these noob shitter and make some sort of casual queue instead of them fucking up my games
>stop playing geist>play seven, and mcnuggets >drop from oracle to emissary Sirs, did Yoshi changed matchmaking to give me more lemons or what?
