>page 10 editionPreviously on /coopg/: >>573250019>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived.https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Also Exist:Space Marines 2 (check /vm/ for general)Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Earth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterKilling Floor 3John Carpenter's Toxic CommandoFar Far West:and others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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>>573358304No I like this one
>>573358485I did too, the first 5 times I saw it as our OP image
why
>play as ogryn>play like shit>game is easy win>play as veteran>do maximum dps>get overrunWhy?
>>573359490Nobody is covering you so you can treat the game like a shooter
>>573359740>tfw skitarii and don't need people to cover me to treat the game like a shooter
any with a galvanic rifle build? It doesn't seem worth the Investment
>>573359920Skitarii has non-negligible toughness damage resistance and regen, also the arc rifle is more busted than any of the vet's available weapons, including the bolter.
>pre-emptively nerfed blessings>no damage>no attack speed>the noose skull out-dps both the vet and the zealot at once>the claw solves most threats instantly>arc damage kills everything without you noticingThe skittle class fantasy is to be weak and slow whilst still topping the scoreboard.
>>573360204If they nerf noosy without buffing everything else it's genuinely over.
>>573360204>no damage>no attack speedIt has both of these
>>573360479They will 100% fix it so you can't activate it at <25% capacitance so you better get your money worth now.
When does Chordclaw begin to fall off? Because it's still great in Auric Maelstroms.
>>573360479All they really need to do is make it lock out the other skull subnodes. It already has the opportunity cost of losing tons of capacitance as well as access to grenades/shield. If it also meant losing access to med/flame skull it'd be pretty well balanced.
>>573360862That's the neat part, it doesn't.
>>573360782I'll be okay with this if that's all.
>>573360862Never, really.
>>573360052>picrelNoospheric Command build works with any weapons.Take Opening Salvo blessing on the rifle. You only have to delay your shots by 50ms to get the benefit with every shot.
>>573360872Losing access to the flame skull is a buff because there are retards out there who waste a point on this dogshit.
>>573360983I use phosphor with opening salvo on noosy and it absolutely fucks. It chunks boss healthbars crazy fast when the servo skull is shooting it as well stacking their debuffs.
Why are 90% of the weapons pure shit?
>>573360782>so you better get your money worth now.I don't think anyone who keeps parroting this realizes how inconsequential of a nerf this really is. Any noosymaxxer already hopefully uses flensing, and getting that +5% is a single point, and cleave CDR is a single point, and those are all you need to achieve parity. Spamming the skull FASTER THAN once every 2s is completely pointless, and it's not like noosy builds bother using capacitance for anything else. The only exception are funpilled efficiencyminners who can't let go of the claw, and claw noosy builds should go redline. I'm fairly certain they'll do the token bugfix and actually require 25% capacitance to placate the whiners who don't know how noosy builds operate, and then call it a day because the biggest retards of the community will perceive it to be a humongous nerf, and now the biggest retards think it's useless because in their meta-slaved minds even a 0.01% nerf = the thing is now useless.
>>573361660fagshart too lazy to balance themarmored enemy bloat
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>>573361779What do you mean by cleave CDR? Surely not capacitor reclamation loop?
>>573362240Yes, that, because it is the most consistent source of CDR if you tailor your build for it. It triggers off charged plasma shots and arc rifle shots, and while cleaving through armored ragers, maulers and bulwarks which you're not killing quickly enough with weakspot hits for the other talent to matter.Reactor Coil Recharge is amazing too and I'll likely end up taking it because I am already forced to take the ammo tax node, but being surrounded by 2 dogshit tax nodes hurts it a lot.
Why in the holy helvete jävlar surströmming does the mechanicus power sword not have finesse multipliers on the empowered strikes
>watch auric exemplar die no less than three times in a damnation mission
Should I focus on Auric Exemplar or just double dip and try to get Auric Storm Survivor out of the way and continue the remaining 5 in normal Auric?
Do you think a deadsiders campaign would have been cool instead of the slopeditions
>>573362860ASS is kind of easier to get than Exemplar
>>573360052There is no galvanic rifle build.It's designed like a primary weapon, big size, slow wield speed. Then it's prenerfed because we can't have nice things - small mag, slow reload, no ammo reserve. And then a bit of Swedish retardation sprinkled on top - it takes a second for aim to stabilize when you aim down sights.It's a terrible primary and terrible sidearm. It has no use. No point building around this junk.
>>573363048This, it's a starter weapon, it's designed to fucking suck
How do I into Arc Maul?
>>573363048really sad
>>573362405It is outrageous to hear the words "tax nodes" coming out of the mouth of someone who willingly chose to path through either shockline breach protocol or, god forbid, target prioritization psalms.The fact that you decided to refer to a conditional node with an internal cooldown as "consistent" is adding insult to injury.
>>573360204>no damageIt has more damage in the tree than any other class, except for scum which has all its damage in one ability.>no attack speed2 attack speed nodes>the noose skull out-dps both the vet and the zealot at onceIn low intensity malice lobbies, it doesn't outdps anyone in high intensity games.>the claw solves most threats instantlyIn low intensity malice lobbies>arc damage kills everything without you noticingThis is true, it needs its damage halved
>>573363308>In low intensity malice lobbies, it doesn't outdps anyone in high intensity games.Riddle me this batman: how do you activate the noosy?
>>573362504It doesn't use ANY of the fucking bars, brursan. IT just has a raw damage boost that was most likely supposed to be added ontop of the normal damage strikes when empowered but instead it only does the bonus damage.
>>573363726>We still need some time to get this right, so these fixes are coming in the next patch, that should be with you all just after summer break.
>>573362504The better question is, how are there people on the forums protecting inflated sprat saying that mechanicus psword is powerful and everyone has a skill issue and you need to git gut and use special attacks to deal with crushers as if it does anything besides weakening regular attacks?
>>573364510Everyone who cries out skill issue got owned at a young age and are desperately looking for someone else to offload that burden. Hurt people hurt people, anon...
>try out auric>die
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>573364892>try out auric as anything besides veteran>it's actually extremely easy>try out auric as veteran>go down repeatedly
>>573364510The sheer nature of anything being slightly unique or varied in terms of moveset. It gives them the feeling of being special and having esoteric knowledge above the 'plebians'Like most jewtubers using the anime mark of the relic blade or psyker FGS, then routinely eating shit when they panic as a result.
>>573364970Moveset is cool, I mastered it in 2 minutesI don't understand how can my skill issue make a weapon do no damage, and why would they lie on the internets
Rumbler and pickaxe have the only ogryn weapon mastery skins with non-generic descriptions.Why?
>>573364952If the team will not cover me, then I will be using infiltrate instead of shout
Is there a list of classes that do support well that I can look through? I've written the ones I can think of belowZealot with cleansing and brittleness flamethrowerOgryn with taunt Veteran ammo cuckPsyker with shield but that doesn't really count because Psyker's shield supports himself while he deletes everything.
80 missions in I still don't like playing hive scum. Still feels like a glass cannon without the cannon.
>>573365098>WILD CRAZY TO HARD LEARN MOVESET>it literally just makes the next attack in the chain energized there's no difference in attacks
>>573358283it sure is a dark dai
>>573362538Trying a new bad build
>>573366010It took me 70 hours to realize I could consecrate and rebless curious instead of just hoping Melk would have good ones at transcendent.
>>573366350I forgot, where we able to do that fro the getgo? We used to have a browser extension to look at the shop
>>573366480I don't know. I only bought this game a couple weeks ago when I saw it was $10 because I distrust Swedish people and didn't want to pay full price.
>>573366480>I forgot, where we able to do that fro the getgo?no newfaggot
>>573366664am sorry for not lurking here since 2010
>>573366752I ACCEPT your APOLOGY
>>573366480I don't remember.
>russian veteran yells at german ogryn for scanning instead of focusing the miniboss>DUMB ANIMAL COME HERE>RUSSIAN DOG
>>573366975I've only had one german scream and he was very disappointed in us for abandoning him whilst we were all standing next to him and protecting him except for one zealot that ran ahead.
Hello. Anyone down to play the Black Ops 3 coop campaign and do all zombies easter eggs?
Is Ark: Survival Ascended considered a /coopg/ game?If so, any suggestions on mods to overhaul the game to be fantasy themed? Want to do a no-high-tech themed run with my friends.
>>573367186it's not a game we discuss here so i doubt anyone knows
>the new mechanicus power sword is always on!Oh does that mean blessings count normal hits as energized?>ahahah no of course not
>>573366480Crafting and buying weapons by type were added in a later update. Used to be you had to lurk the shop to get the best gear or get lucky with drops.
>>573361187tried and raped two DH
>>573367709I thought only the special attacks were energized
>>573367186Survivalcraft games are kinda their own thing. We're mostly about co-op shooters here.
I'm gonna run Scrier's Gaze Psyker with Vigilant Autogun and Relic Blade.
>>573367976told you. Just aim at a boss' weakspot and they get fucking chunked.
>>573368051Well, shit. Any other general you recommend me checking in? Genuinely stumped as to where this fits in. /coopg/ was the closest I could think of.Side note, how active is Deep Rock Galactic? Haven't heard anything about it for ages.
>>573368218Sister, you're a zealot.
>>573368338wait no i meant the Force Greatsword
>>573368040Basic attacks are "energyzed" in lore - fatshark claims the sword is properly maintained so it's always energized, and specials provide extra damage at the cost of the chargeIn practice, basic attacks receive no benefits and only get penalized when you lose charges
>>573366097Heh
>>573368608>Basic attacks are "energyzed" in lorewell, yea. power weapons aren't even sharp so they'd be useless otherwise. the metal bits are just there to shape the force field.
>>573365930Vet has a lot more support than just the ammo aura.>smoke nade>team wide full toughness refill and golden toughness ability>share 20% of all your toughness gains to teammates (really impactful when paired with the first row talents)>mark keystone that can make taggable enemies take 34% more damage from everything, team wide 30% toughness refill on mark kill, and a team wide 15% damage buff on mark kill
I'm having a hard time finding reasons to play anything else except transphobic chud claw as Skitarii with pubbies. It just does horde clear, bossing and counter sniping so well while with any other build my build fails to compensate for one or more essential roles.
>>573368287probably won't have any luck on 4chan. there's just games no one talks about. try a discord or reddit or something. or just scroll through the Ark workshop I guess.
For havoc chud claw skitty witty, should I just run flensing like normal or do I go all in on the redline meme?
>>573363252>someone who willingly chose to path throughTarget Prioritization Psalms gives you wallhacks and lets you safely determine how safe it is to stand near a spawn door. It also has more range than trappers and flamers have attack range and lets you identify them accordingly. It's not great, and I think it's fair to call it a tax node, but for a tax node it's pretty goddamn nice. It also paths naturally into the strength node which will regain relevance once the noosy is fixed. Giving up 10-12.5% TDR doesn't bother me, especially after 15%+30% global DR and whatever else TDR is available elsewhere. I already run 3 health curios anyway.
>>573368846Does the smoke go on the team or on the enemies?
>>573368429Stoopid cunt, come here and get pregnant
>>573368287>how active is Deep Rock GalacticIt's got a general on /vm/, /drg/
>>573369498on the team or between
>>573369498Between or on team. Enemies can't see you on the other side of it, and they can't see you inside it until they enter it.If people bitch that their view is obscured then they're a shitter who needs to learn how to play more aggressively.
>>573369498It goes on the noosy skit to punish them for abusing an exploit.
>>573368287Last I checked, DRG is still alive and played, it just got cucked by retarded devs trying to force their new pet project that sucked, everyone told them it sucked, and they didn't fix the suck until after the public beta in which everyone confirmed that the original playtesters were right that it sucked, so now they're fixing up Rogue Core.Neither game is talked about here very often because everything has already been said and most have moved on. Rogue Core has potential but is currently in a pretty questionable state, many others and myself are giving it some more time in the oven before investing any real amount of time.There's still DRG talk here occasionally, but it's the kind of occasional that lasts maybe an hour every 2-3 generals.
Penances got me reflecting on my own mortality
>>573370078This is a pretty comfy and easy one, why the complaint? Have you tried just going into hordes with a heavy sword or an axe of sorts?
>>573370078What? That's extremely tame and you'll achieve that pretty quickly just by playing normally, like most of Scummer's pennances.It's only annoying if you exclusively use some Shivs or some other weapon where heavies are single-target. You do have multiple loadouts for the class's archetypes that use different weapons, right?
>>573366089>"Guys this is a really complicated weapon!">Push attack into an infinitely repeating Heavy Heavy Light Light combo for single target>Push attack into an infinitely repeating Light Heavy combo for horde clear>Light spam for a stray poxwalker or special/elite that gets in your face>Energized attack isn't a unique move in and of itself; it's literally the same light/heavy swing but empowered>People are swearing up and down this is hard to master
>>573370713>>Push attack>>Push attackNTA but that is a legitimate problem on skittle who has horrendous stamina economy and no reliable way to fix it. It's not a huge problem, but it's definitely another point of friction that makes me want to not use it.
>>573370713>Push attack into an infinitely repeating Heavy Heavy Light Light combo for single targetthat's like four times more complex than every other weapon in the game
>>573370931More complicated than managing relic blade sprint attacks (that seem to filter every retard lol) or power sword push attacks without losing charge?
>>573370713That's cool but it still has no damage and no mobility, and energized attacks are only make it deal less damage
>>573370857You talk as if Skitter's stamina situation is as bad as Veterannies.Skitter stamina stats are the same as Zealot's.
why the FUCK doesn't the skitarii get the lasgun
UP IN DA CLUB!
>>573371140Veteran has talents that fix the stamina economy, chiefly piss tag's stamina restore, and also the stamina recovery time reduction if you care to take that.Zealot is a retardedly tanky beefcake of a class that can afford to just not block, take a hit on the chin, and restore stamina through toughness damage.Skittles can be built to be tanky, but you're still in a not great spot if you need to block but have no stamina, and you only have a single talent that governs stamina and it is quite bad. Also skittle's weapons tend to not have great mobility, and don't come with stamina discounts.I don't think they're equivalent at all unless you use a knife or something.
>>573370539I was using shivs, lolThanks for the tip
>>573370713I can't think of a single weapon that is harder to use than the skittles Power sword. Not only It doesnt have any normal combos like spam heavy for wave clear and light for single targets: It requires you to manage well your Energy in bad situations and understand when you are allowed to fully charge an attack for maximum efficency and not waste any charges. It also has pretty bad mobility so you actually have to use your brain to defense yourself instead of spamming dodges like on a knife for example. Also it's the only weapon that forces you to use your special Attack in the middle of combos which Is One more button you need to be pressing costantly
>see vet hogging the killfeed>start shooting barrels any time he nears it>take his ammo from him too
which personality is the SEXIEST, /darkg/?
>>573372332Fem maul and French psycher.
>>573372248>play arbite with shotgun>always hog the killfeed>the other 3 can sleepwalk through the missionI sometimes wonder if they get annoyed by how easy it is for me to clear everything on this class
>>573371330Why in the FUCK would you even want it
>>573372332fem/lonerfem/judgem/authoritarian
>>573360983Can I ask why you picked so many electrocution talents with power overload but you didn't pick the talent that makes it so power overload applies electrocution?
>>573372756I copied it but removed the healslut skull
>>573372248>get carried>kill the carry>wipe out of sheer incompetenceAre you the average pubbie?
>>573372701How could you not want a high finesse gun with the best ammo economy on high crit class with aimbot ability?
>>573370931Simpler than the scum's bone saw.
A CURSE OF RUST AND RUIN UPON YOU
>>573372701It's a legitimately good finesse weapon, it just has completely fucking dogshit flak damage profiles
>>573373348Bro your laspistol?
>>573373624It has worse ammo economy than infantry las
>>573373348You could use the damage-variant laspistol instead, which is probably better.Though with Skitarii you have galvanic rifle and phosphor to consider if you want to finessemaxx
Imagine if skitty witty got helbore desu
>>573373721The galvanic rifle competes only with the vigilant autoguns on how far down the trash pile they rest.
>>573372756I don't think I picked any electrocution talents. If you mean Weakness Analysis Doctrine, the Servo-Skull keeps it active because it applies Burn.I didn't take Critical Power Overload because I think the range is too small. It's 8m, which is okay, I guess. >>573361187Yeah, Phsophor Blast Pistol is definitely the strongest weapon for the build. In fact, I would unselect Omnissian Recharge Litany if not using the PBP.
>>573373865I think it needs to have absurd cleave from jump to make up for not really being a splash weapon and having only 8 shots/mag. The Phosphor has CC and AoE while the Galvanic only penetrates a bit.Vigilant autoguns should be devastating but only on crits.
>>573373721Galvanic is assPhosphor pistol is good as well as laspistol but tiny ass pistol in the hands of skitarii is ass. I want a proper gun.
>>573373554Too bad flak damage is just about the most important thing in the gameIt's one reason why laspistol is so good, it just melts maulers and plasma gunners on body shots
>>573374234It makes a soi-inducing ping and will therefore never receive any buffs because plebbitors are overusing it regardless
>>573374226>I don't think I picked any electrocution talents.yeah I was being retarded and I looked at my own talents and saw Weakness Analysis Doctrine and just assumed you had the other ones too
>>573372562They don't notice. Most people who play this game are barely sentient.
How is it mods can make give you voice commands that everyone else without the mods can hear? Is it just enabling something that fatshark made but never made fully usable?
>>573374234It needs 50% bigger ammo reserve, faster reload and to get rid of retarded aming debuff. Everything else is fine.
It's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_mKduajdE0
>see trapper run into teammates face>it traps me >we immediatelly wipeowie woops my bad...
Need dudes, send more dudes
>>573374669
>>573374685>leveling up a hiv cum>fighting the hound master boss>I have aggro and am dodge dancing him while getting my damage in. The boss is 50% dead. >make a mistake and get pounced>nobody shoots the dog off of me>go from 100 to dead>the rest of the nigger teammates inflict zero additional damage to the boss and ultimately wipe
>>573374628Yes, it literally just triggers voicelines that are already in the game. You can even use other characters' voicelines with one of the voice mods, which is why you sometimes might see a female psyker shouting in a male ogryn voice and shit like that.
>>573375386>You can even use other characters' voicelines with one of the voice mods, which is why you sometimes might see a female psyker shouting in a male ogryn voice and shit like that.Not anymore you can't.Darktide used to not have server-side validation as to what you were allowed to do with mods, meaning you could equip cosmetic items that do not actually exist, including bugged or cross-class ones, similar to how you could cross-class (or trans-gender) voices on the characters, with predictably extremely buggy results.They patched this on the server side, but effectively grandfathered in any already bugged characters/accounts. If you see someone with a cross-class voice, that account used mods at some point, but those mods are no longer possible because the server just kicks you if you try.>sourceTrust me bro, I know what I'm doing. I had one of those mods, snooped through the files, tried to do some science, and the server just threw me out.
>die first>everyone else dies after>this proves I was the best and the one holding the team together>not that it was a tough wave and I was the weakest linkHow do I escape these teams?
>>573372332ogryn heavy
>>573375810Install True Level and leave the lobby when you see 3 havoc ranks greater than 0 but lower than 30, or players with level <50 and no havoc rank.Especially players in the havoc 16~24 range are sub-bot ultra shitters and active detriments to the team.This has nothing to do with actual havoc trench play, just observing auric games.
Told you to bake
>>573358485No he’s right we need new ones >>573362504The holy WHAT
Think I'm gonna electric max for my skitarii build, just full on arc maul and arc rifle with some crit perks. Still trying to get the hang of dodging again, trying to use mouse 4 as my crouch button for easier sliding access.
>>573375961Is that the gay one?
>>573376497No that's whichever one (You) are using
>>573374669Forum tards told me to git gut for asking to increase grenade count from 3 to 4. He wants 5 grenades and 1.5x damage, lmao
>>573374603That goes for most games in general these days>>573372332Based Krieger sticking it to the faggotau
>>573374687CIVI is the fun version of Rotten Armor
>>573376670kriegers are even more faggoty than tau due to their reddit nature
>>573368709>>573368429>>573368218cute>>573367174i would if we were on the same platform
>>573375231funnily enough I was also playing hive scum. This class is easy as fuck to just do everything with.
>>573358129what's this meme
>>573375961heavy ogryn is so disappointing.>>573376497all paypiggy ogryns look like gay pornstars
>>573377017it's supposed to be foreskin removal by brute force, and then someone painted a face on the foreskin. The little neck is actually the shaft of the penis
>>573377017Marvel comic cover where Dr. Doom is tearing Mr. Fantastic's headOne World Under Doom, or something like that
>20 kills at close range>except the core DoT mechanic of the class (toxin) doesn't count>it's been over 7 monthsA ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THE FUCKING RETARDED FAGGOT SWEDE
>>573374669>not Lord Sir Tanner of LindbergI sleep.
>>573377339oh good I thought it was real gore or something
>>573377342you still bought it>>573377386I miss this fat tranny, he was like an average cooper with an actual name
>>573375810>Me unga>Team bungawhite text
>play dlc class for 3 hours>already out of cosmetics to unlockwuh oh
>>573378147frank
>>573378147How's that Bavarian separatist movement doing?
>make the executive decision to bring a low health melee build into auric>get griefed by a poxburster not even 2 minutes into the mission and die>oh well, time to watch the skittle somehow doing nothing with the strongest melee weapon available to the class>constant verticals with the tranny blades into a horde>switches to horizontal to kill single targets>randomly spamming light attacks and not even aiming at headsYeah these fuckers definitely aren't sentient.Big surprise, they wiped not even a minute after I died.
>>573376974I was at a point in leveling hive scum where he feels annoying to use. Partly my own fault for using the chain axe instead of the tac axe. That stems from my seething hatred of litterally who mundane shit vastly eclipsing the iconic 40k weapons and a desire to use 40k weapons in a 40k game. I haven't been happy with the ranged weapons either, but I should unlock needle and bolt pistols tonight.
>>573375810>>die first>>everyone else dies after>>this proves I was the best and the one holding the team together>>not that it was a tough wave and I was the weakest linkThis can actually be true in one situation(and only one), and that's if the player in question has already displayed significant competence. That's why it's good practice to stick to one player if they're noticeably much better than the other two just so you can free the good one in an instant if they do happen to get hit by a net or something(and since you're already near them, chances are they'll do the same to you). Or at least that's what I do since there's usually a couple of absolute deadweights and aurics are perfectly doable with just 2 good players.>t. quickplay pro
Rat News?
>>573378741I use the shivs.
>>573378791NTA but I fully assume that any auric run is 20 seconds away from wiping if I go down, and about a minute away from wiping if I die, because experience has taught me that this is true.Most of the time my 3 shitters are barely scraping by while I'm doing more damage than all of them combined. Me suddenly no longer dealing damage means they get MASSIVELY overwhelmed by twice as many enemies as they're even able to DPS down with their non-builds, and thus get overrun and die.
>>573372332Fem Maul or Fem Fanatic.
>>573378970Oh and, something very similar tends to happen whenever I'm on objective duty. The most easily observed example is Rolling Steel.>fight through the train cars>finish the second hack>SOMEONE has to go fetch capsules>tardlets are farming the spawns at the capsule plugin because of course they are>except The Good Guy is no longer there to instantly rape ragers before they even get an attack off>one guy eats shit>the other guy eats shit trying to revive the first guy>the third guy is lucky because he got confused and somehow stuck at the back of the furthest car (he's 5 seconds away from getting dogged in a corner so I can't LoS and shoot the dog)all because I went to go fetch the capsules. Same shit applies to any other objective that takes more than 5 seconds to complete.
Does this apply to attacks that hit multiple enemies?
>>573379778no, that would be the talent right next to it
>>573379778No, but the other one does that
>>573379185It's real annoying when I'm trying to do the objective thing but the nigger teammates just keep getting downed.
>>573368287You could check out /vm/. That's the island of misfit vidya
>>573379778No. But it should, they should just combine Smash Em and Best Defence into 1 node, it's really dumb it isn't.
>>573379185>skybridge battery objective>go to pick up battery one>all three shitters go down within seconds of each other all the way up at the plugin>do not turn around, just head for the battery>horde ends so there's a lull>walk past all three retards and plug the battery in>walk back and stare at them for a solid five seconds>pick them up and head for battery two>only one of them follows me to the battery, the other two stay up by the plug in>there are no medicae charges left by the time we get the second battery upI'm tired boss
>>573379185Any capsule map is me sliding through the horde without any help and hoping I don't need to stop for too long because of an endless special clown car. And watching my team's HP bars dwindle somewhere that's never "here".
How does the rating shit work in Darktide? When Do I start getting 500 rating stuff? I got a level 30 vet and I'm getting stuff around 450
>>573381385Take your gear to Hadron and shove a lot of plasteel into upgrading it to 500. You might want to double check the stat ceiling on those weapons first
>>573381485Do you mean the random ranges they get or what is the stat ceiling?
>>573381385>When Do I start getting 500 rating stuff?when you have earned mastery for that weapon. Then you upgrade it to 500 by talking to robot lady. This means those bars get up to a maximum of 80%. >why 80%?sweden
>>57338158280% maximum, weapons can roll max on every stat except one which sits at 60%, known as the dump stat. You can buy profanes from brunt's shop to roll for ideal distributions then upgrade those at hadron. Upgrading weapons increases the weapon's current stats closer to its maximum capacity.
>>573380694I returned to the game for skitarii. Once I'm done experiencing the other dlc classes and the relic blade/moonlight great sword, I know that skittles will be my forever main. He just makes pugging with retards so much more comfy. >gotta hack the thing? No teammates to protect me? Servo skull, hack the thing.>teammate is downed? All the way over there? Servo skull, go pick him up.
>>573381385You need to level up your weapon masteries. Masteries unlock both blessings (those extra bonus traits weapons have) and the maximum empowerment level. The armory shop will almost never have 500 rated weapons, but you can go to hadron across from him to empower your weapon to the max assuming you have the mastery for it.You can also buy fully upgraded 400-500 weapons from melkador's shop with his weekly tokens on the right of the hallway where you load in to the game from. These are good to level up weapons so you aren't using a 200 rated stick with no stats on it.You can check your mastery levels from the inventory screen, and it should be one of the tabs up above.
>>573381582>Do you mean the random ranges they getYeah. Sometimes one or two stats are clearly less important than the others and you want that stat to be the one with the lowest potential. The highest a stat can go is 80.
>>573379913>>573379929>>573380443It really should specifically state it does not apply to hitting multiple enemies at once.
>>573381840Nta, but do you know what the unlock requirements are for different marks of weapons? I wanted to try using the speed loading revolver on hiv cum, but it never fucking appeared while I was leveling up. Now I just unlocked the needle pistol and it's probably moot.
>>573382037>attacks that hit one targetIt specifies it in the negative, dummy.
>>573382037Darktide is infamous for having terrible descriptions. You'll definitely run into this issue more.
>>573382107Any attack that hits multiple enemies hit one target by necessity.
>>573382095Go to your inventory, click the weapon, marks
>>573382267You're being obtuse. Single means one, uno, ichi, don't get your panties in a twist over something the rest of us intuited.
>>573381780>>573381819>>573381840>>573381875Thanks anons. Any easy rules of thumb for figuring out the dump stat or does it depend on the weapon a lot? For example I have this on the vendor. Is penetration fine at 60 cap or should it be something else?
>>573382457Rule of thumb is that mobility is always the dump stat because the difference between 60 and 80 is minimal
>>573382385You can't hit multiple targets without hitting a single target.It's extremely easy to word this in such a way that cannot be misinterpreted.>something the rest of us intuitedExcept it's a common issue that darktide is filled with descriptions that are either poorly worded or completely incorrect and that people need third party information to understand properly.
does the hive scum RPG crit? Hit a captain with it and he took like 80% of his health and then another time I hit a captain it only did like 30% of his health.
>>573382457If the weapon has mobility, dump mobility.If the weapon has defence, dump defence.If the weapon has both, dump defence.If the weapon has neither, then try to figure it out/ask for help.
>>573382095marks are unlocked through mastery. opening a weapon type's mastery page will have the list of unlocks on the bottom, should be able to see how far you need to go to get what you want.
>>573382457Usually mobility is the dump stat.
>>573382695Just take the L dude
>>573382695It's not even hard to interpret.
Why everybody is so fucking slow in auric
>>573382457Mobility if the weapon has a mobility stat>but some other anon said-Ignore anyone saying otherwise, there are some cases for incredibly niche setups and stat sticks but those are 4k hour poopsock strategies, don't worry about that. Mobility is legitimately always the most surefire dumpstat.Followed by defence. If it's a ranged weapon and has collateral then that is an acceptable dumpstat
>>573382845Game went on sale for 75% off, so there's an influx of new players who are playing it slow and cautious
Man the state of your average skitter player made me really not want to buy this class. I thought for sure that it was the weakest class ever designed after seeing people endlessly eat shit in my aurics. My gf buys it for me and turns out this shit is the easiest thing I've ever played in my life. It actually staggers me that people can be this fucking bad at the game to make this look weak. Idk if i'd trust myself with it in havoc but i can't die on aurics.
>>573382520>>573382702>>573382760>>573382891Thanks again. Looks like I got some 60 mobility stuff already.
i can only maelstrom with the relic blade, so i don't want ot play anymore
>>573382695You are correct. Anyone implying we can trust Fatshark's text is straight up lying. They just want to argue. Forget about it.
>>573383005Extremely lucky, just keep in mind that rolling for and upgrading a bunch of weapons this way is damn expensive. You'll be playing for hundreds of hours before you pick up enough of a stockpile to upgrade most things across every class. Always discard purple and orange weapons you get from finishing missions, they give you some currencies and it stacks up
>>573382785>>573382820It is hard to interpret because it doesn't indicate that it does not apply when hitting multiple enemies.Does this not apply if it hits multiple targets?
>>573382981nothing will ever top the hive scum leveling experiencei've never seen that amount of people eat shit in malice... before or since.
>>573383261>It is hard to interpretIt is not.
>>573383261Smash Em! is one of the few descriptions that are abundantly clear in what it means. Literally everyone else interpreted this correctly, especially given the node opposite to it that's the same thing but for multiple targets.
>>573383261i promise you'll only waste your time trying to have this debate
>>573383443Does thunderous apply to attacks that hit multiple enemies or not?
Now that the dust has settled, can smoke grenades survive in this doggy dog diamond dozen world?
>>573383858Were smoke grenades nerfed?
>>573383858no, kraks are superior
>>573383858You exist to throw kraks at armor, dispense ammo and give piss toughness
I'm getting really tired of carrying retards who have nothing to do in Auric.
>>573383261"Single" is a superfluous word to add if it works on attacking any number of enemies. The addition of the word is meant to indicate something. This is what your grades k-5 teachers were trying to teach you when they kept saying "context clues."
>>573384140counterpoint: carrying retards is the only thing that makes auric interesting
Kinda dissapointing there will never be a L4D3, but at the same time it's completley understandable, because I think in order to justify the creation of a L4D3 you'd have to come up with new Specials, but the main 6 they already have are pretty much perfect already.I legitimately have never seen a single idea for a new SI that wasnt either:A) Just plain stupid and wouldn't be fun to play against and/or play asorB) Way too similar to an existing Special Infected and would add nothing of value to the gameAt this point the only thing I'd actually want out of L4D as a franchise is an updated version of L4D2 with a online infrastructure that doesn't suck ass.
>>573384238It was fun for a moment but now it's just super predictable: if I don't deal with a poxburster you can be sure at least one retard will facetank it. Trapper net sound? yep, everytime. Demon host? I tag it, put 3000 icons around so they can't miss it: bam they charge it.It's just so tiring
>>573384343The real reason there's no L4D3 is because that fat fuck gaben won't touch anything with a 3 in it
>>573384343Darktide is honestly all we need.
>>573384343Supposedly Valve has a source 2 version of L4D2 they use for testing. But I get you, I want more L4D content too since I love the series too much. At least give us a sacrifice-style comic but for the L4D2 cast.
>>573372332fem fanatic
>>573384165You would not call multiple enemies at once "an enemy" yet there are talents and blessings that have the condition of hitting "an enemy" but also work when hitting more than "an enemy" so why would I assume fatshark means "a single enemy and no more" when they say "a single enemy".
Only reason you'd have trouble interpreting that is text is if you're brown.
Taking Ogryn's +75% coherency radius node (Towering presence) is giving me a noticeable benefit from Bruiser (the cooldown node). Just felt like sharing this.
>>573384785"Multiple" is an incorrect word to add if it works on attacking a singular enemy. The addition of the word is meant to indicate something. This is what your grades k-5 teachers were trying to teach you when they kept saying "holy shit billy, how do you not know what multiple means."
>>573377418I don’t think that would even be physically possible>>573378641What
>>573384876didn't browns invent text?
>>573385006Reading comprehension, try again.
>>573346871They aren't servitors at all which makes it more annoying>>573383858That’s not the saying…
>>573385206we're not having a conversation, I'm just shitting on you now
>>573384785Because contextually, hitting an enemy is equal to hitting any enemy. Which is a separate contextual condition than hitting a single enemy or hitting multiple enemies.
>>573384343We pretty much have the main special infected archetypes perfected by this point.>disablers>area denial>supportAnd each game has its own take on all of these which is fine.I really like WWZ's swarm of rats SI because it's funny.
>>573384959It would be nice to take, but it's competing with better stuff.
How do I not get DECLINED as zealot? >bring bacon of purity>bring chorus>bring correct curiosanything else? Can i bring tac axe or eviscerator? I refuse to run knife or duuling sword. Not my style.
>>573383249>Always discard purple and orange weapons you get from finishing missions, they give you some currencies and it stacks upUnless, of course, those weapons have the correct dump stat, in which case you should keep them for upgrading them later on.
>>573385581you gotta be a retarded homosexual that's the only way
>>573382457If you're playing psyker, the dump stat is warp resistance.
>>573380601I desperately wish I had a per-difficulty and per-mission heatmap of where players usually go down, where they usually die, and where players are during a wipe. Because I am fucking certain that every objective that requires players to backtrack completely fries the average tardlet's brain and causes them to waste several minutes farming enemies then dying. It happens every time at the skybridge, it happens every time on the train, it happens very frequently on clansneedium's finale if you ever have to remove the carousel of ice.We need deranking from auric. I'm tired of carrying actual retarded children, and I don't want to be limited to playing exclusively havoc 40. It's a co-op game for fuck's sake, where is my co-op? Why do I have to solo gigacarry 80% of games?
>anons giving this guy shit for his wanting more clarity from some talents>as though the Swedes are known for the reliability of their phrasing
in 2026, WHAT is the point of the commissary?>take up space on the ship>be the final boss of this game's excuse for a 'story'>sell basic cosmetics>waow, red or blue weapon skins>nothing for any dlc classi know fatshark are greedy fuckers but they can't even go "oh yeah that mtx cosmetic is 2+ years old now, put it on that bitch"
>>573385861If they started making the vestures cosmetics free after a period of time, nobody would be buying them because you could just wait for them to be free.
>>573385420"an enemy" and "a single enemy" are synonymous conditions.If I tell you I want you to hit "a single enemy" what part of that indicates that I don't want you to hit more than a single enemy? If I tell you I want you to hit "an enemy" why would you assume I want you to hit more than "an enemy"?
>>573385861at one point it was added to quiet the notion that fatshark was greedy or was never going to add free cosmetics ever againthen fatshark realized they don't care what people think
>>573385802the skitarii influx did a number on the playerbase for good and badthe retardmaxxing braindead+blind+deaf turbo shitters should be gone in about 2 months. Then you can enjoy auric again.
>>573386065you can't genuinely believe thiswe live in a world where people pay an extra $40 to play 2 days early and you think there's a shortage of people who'd pay for cosmetics now instead of wait for two years
>>573368846>nooo you have to take the tagging keystone to give ME damage ME ME ME i am the carry you are the support you have to tag MY targets and give ME buffs>wtf stop spamming tag on everything its making noise i dont like it
>dodging and weaving a bunch of crushers in a really bad spot, my fault admittedly>get raped because I graced a ladder for a second, started climbing it and got hit 2000 timesAIIIIIEEEEEE
>>573386385>people paying to get a game early is the same as people buying cosmetics that will be completely free after a timeFalse equivalency. Content yourself with the free cosmetics or pay up for the premium ones you want.
>>573384343A way to block the countries south of the USA's border would be welcome as well.
>>573386601Charge 80 dollars and never put it on sale
>>573384461To be fair poxbursters are super finicky right now. Which makes perfect sense since the most recent patch notes said they "fixed them".
>>573386394Everyone who says this is a sub-bot retard who hasn't made it out of heresy difficulty.I tag everything I see practically to a fault and I never get any complaints, even on noosy builds.>>573386514Wait until you get that sick ladder at that one assassination mission in the rafters, where you go past the medicae, up the stairs, wait for the elevator, and then drop down past the second medicae. There's a ladder where you can start climbing, jump to get off, and throw yourself off a cliff into an instant death.
>>573384343I would like left4dead ported to source 2 and given a touch up but it would be a shame they'd probably give everyone the same treatment they gave alyx in the VR game even if they did decide to do a graphical remaster.
>>573385115Seems unlikely>>573384343We already know HL3 is in development, so L4D3 is fully possible, but yeah it probably won’t happen for a while
yay! :)
>>573386098I can understand why you might make this mistake, but it's an incorrect interpretation and application on your part.
Fatshark not making a mortis operative skin for every weapon really speaks to their laziness and utter disregard for their players.
>>573385581Host your own havocs. Right now shitters think zealot is le bad.
>>573386949
>>573386949well done saar now you can come and carry me in auric
>>573387261Back in my day coopers hosted havoc lobbies to play with each other because everyone played the game instead of just shitposting
In the past two days i've found 2, 17% toughness curios at Brunts shop
repeal of the private game penanes whenor private games for solo players fucking when
I just want Fatshark to be honest about whatever player metrics they have for what % of players are actually doing mortis/havoc/expeditionsIt's not a very high number, I'd bet.
>>573385861Some of the cosmetics are actually pretty nice, and the red weapon skins match the red penance skins if that's your thing. If you don't want to spend any money on cosmetics, it's a way to still have pretty cool looking operatives. Pic related, for instance, is a mix of commissary&penance cosmetics.
>>573388245>BruntLiterally who?
>>573388267>party finder>set for penances>wait for someone to apply>get their go ahead>set to private game and go for itIt's that easy, you just don't want to talk to people
>>573388407And here's an example of what the red commissary weapon skins look like with the red penance skins.
>>573385581Nobody really cares about your melee because zealots have no damage.Relic blade is good but very few people are good with it, so I don't expect every zealot to bring one. Usually it's eviscerator and I don't know why do many chorus zealots bring it.As long as it's not heavy sword or crusher, I am happy if you can use it.
>>573388665What penance is the one where you get that helmet?
>>573383249>discard purple and orange weapons you get from finishing missions, they give you some currenciesThanks for the headsup. I would have dumped them for leveling the mastery.
>>573388556>anon explicitly wants to play by himself>yeah so what you do is you find someone and play with themWhy do normies act like they are entitled to everyone's time and interacting with them isn't torture we only tolerate when physical survival is at stake?
>>573388919Yeah only use greens and purples for that, something a lot of people do after playing for thousands of hours when new weapons come out is roll up a bunch of profanes then upgrade them to green, then sacrifice those for mastery levels.
>>573389003Why do anti-social faggots play coop games?
>>573388898I think it's one of those that require you to complete a bunch of other penances. Not sure though, I did my veteran penances a pretty long time ago.
I've died to maulers four times in a mission by getting stuck on a box. Fuck!
>>573389003>>anon explicitly wants to play by himselfYeah I bet you play with yourself a lot!
>>573389849just don't go into the box no matter how tasty the cheese looks
>>573385861Just Tencent ThingsReminder that in VT2, Lohner's Emporium still gets regular updates that adds costumes and emotes. Last one was in May.>What the fuck is Lohner's Emporium?Imagine if instead of worthless RNG weapons you could buy cosmetics with Melk's quest currency. Yeah.If Fatshark wants MUH PLAYER METRICS to keep a regular playerbase going, just add cosmetics to fucking Melk's.
>>573389849get boxed bitch boi
>>573390194A purple beanie would keep me playing for much longer between patches
>>573388428
>>573390194If they wanted to improve muh player metrics they could also make it so you can spend tech remnants to buy cosmetics. That would make people play expeditions past getting the expedition penance cosmetics and would probably look like the game mode is successful at quarterly shareholder meetings. Maybe make it so you can sell tech remnants for melkbux and add a "mystery cosmetics acquisition" button to Melk's shop that gives you a random premium cosmetic. But hey, what do I know.
>>573390689he won't look like this when he gets added in the crafting 2.0 update end of this year
>>573389849DIE INSECT
>>573390795Whats the point of a crafting update when 99% of the playerbase is already running the optimal stats on all their gear
>>573390991Moebian Steel ingots as a new crafting material that must be farmed in Mortis Operations, the new mode that was teased with Sefoni's goon dimension.
>>573390991letting the numbers go to 100%haha just kidding, it's to create a new gear treadmill to restore player engagement and retention
They should just outright add all the enemies from Vermintide and have some vague cutscene about a spacehulk that's suddenly in orbit to epxlain it
>everyone readies>one guy leavesWho are these NIGGERS
>>573390139>>573390194Kek>>573391105Like Minecraft!!!
>>573392749Me
>>573392749>lose because of shitter>mod shows win/loss ratio of games you've been in with them>if the number of any single player is zero i leave
>>573392749upgrade your gear...
>>573392749sorry it's meI pressed ready reflexively but then I noticed it's the same mission I just played with the same modifiers and I don't want to play the exact same mission twice in a row
>auric maelstrom>guy splits off and goes down>no problem, I send my skull out to go grab him and i even have a med stim to give him>he quits mid-revive>other guy who is presumably his friend instantly leaves as well
>>573362538sometimes people are doing weeklies or penances
>>573347967>>573348629Still canon
>>573391105>Mortis Operationsthat's havoc, the dudes from the commissar lady are mortis operatives
>>573363113the other starter weapon is the arc maul and that's the strongest weapon on the class.>>573363197when you power it on the push attack is basically chorus but electric, it staggers and electrocutes everything. so you charge it up, open with a single push attack to electrocute everything in the area and then start wailing away at the closest enemy, killing everything else behind it in the processyou can also use it to walk out of trouble in a pinch
>>573394349They're a moebian guard unit, are you dumb
>>573394442It's strong because it scales with horde density, and the swedish don't play above malice as a general rule
>>573393560who the fuck stays in games after going down? if someone goes down it's over, leave and start over.also applies to getting dogged or trapped. if I ate one it means the ping is garbage and the game is unplayable
>>573394575the entire arc mechanic is deliberately designed to delete scab hordes, there's no way that's not on purpose
>>573394638>t. still needs to scum his ASS title
>install scoreboard>doesn't track soloing capsules
>>573363197Have you tried arcing?Seriously, it's either the #1 or #2 melee for skitarii. It's super good.>Smites away hordes>Smites away squads if shotgunshitters/gunners/shooters>Stuns up anything it can't instakill like ragers
>>573394832Leaving doesn't reset your progress? wew
>>573394638>my controller stopped working
>>573395958not last I checkedso the faggots who alt+f4 the second they get netted are shitters who can't even complete 5 maelstroms without dying
>>573392708I would love to watch the average pug shit their pants fighting one of those chaos wastes teleporting/illusionist/immune to ranged damage grudgemarked minotaurs
>>573392749>see a snigger in the party>leave
>>573396017my game unironically crashed today when I got hit by a mutant and there was the stupid arbites staff adding some graphic effects
I don't understand arbites. Are you supposed to do no damage? like at all? i feel like a bully club ogryn does the same thing with way more damage
>>573397623Take the damage talents at the bottom of the tree.
>>573397623All of your damage nodes are at the bottom of the tree and have a weird constellation if you want to maximize your damage output (picrel). Soulguilt and Target the Weak are non-negotiable. BTL + Arbites Vigilant combo is optional, but how you turn into a blender. This leaves little room for defensive nodes so I usually stay with 1 point BTL and skip AV, but it is the best damage build.>inb4 whining about True GritSure take Drive them Back if you believe in melee cleave, I'm not your dad.If you're low level, use your overpowered shotgun, you have no melee damage nodes yet.
>>573397897>>inb4 whining about True GritTrue Grit whining is completely retarded, and I instantly label anyone ragging on it as someone pretending to be good at the game instead of someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
>>573400050I don't mind it so much because not all of it is entirely wrong. If you just play well you shouldn't need it.The problem is the opportunity cost. You have to get down to Forceful somehow, what the fuck else are you taking when melee cleave is such a dogshit mechanic? Nobody takes the ranged damage on melee stagger so you aren't pathing through Strike Down either. In fact, Forceful serves as the best pathing node for Strike Down...
>>573392708they're not the same setting and never were you secondary NIGGER
I think I'm going to try Vermintide 2 soonDo you have any advice?
>>573392708I'm surprised they haven't just reskinned the beastmen enemies and thrown them into Atoma since 40k beastmen and Fantasy beastmen are literally the same
>>573400268He FEARS the teleporting minotaur that's immune to ranged damage
>>573400640lol
>>573400531When you start unlocking gear, you want "bark skin" as you healing passive. We'll point and laugh at you if you run natural bond instead. IIRC Block cost reduction is good in that game because some characters can stack it up to something like 60-90% reduction.
Tranner was a hero... I just couldn't see it...
>>573400531Do you already play Darktide? VT2 is similar, but you have less mobility(there's no sprinting or sliding) and it's a slower-paced game overall. Kruber is a good starting character, since he's an all-rounder right from the start. You'll unlock more "careers" as you level up each character.
>>573400531Learn to dodge and otherwise how to fight and moveStay away from Ironbreaker until after you hit legend difficulty (he's extra tanky and can teach bad habits if you rely on him to rank up)Your bots are based on your character's level and equipment, so it helps to level other characters up too in the long run.Open your boxes as you get them, no reason to hoard them anymore. If you find your item power plateauing, find out which slot has fallen behind then craft one. Item power of a new item from any source will be -10 to +5 of your current average.The third line of talents deals with stagger damage bonus. Enhanced Power is the general choice and safe choice if you don't know what to pick. notable for helping with ranged and stagger breakpoints, but is otherwise a middleground in overall damage between the other choices. Assassin and Smiter if you're focusing on melee damage breakpoints. Mainstay and Bulwark never.
>>573400268woudlnt stop the swedes from slapping them in
>>573401554>Mainstay and Bulwark never.I forgot to mention I am also trans.
>>573401341>>573400531Multiple people can't play the same class at once either.
I love how chuuni the exterminator voice Skitarii is.Whenever I kill shit and hearing her weird robot voice scream "I AM DEATH" is genuinely adorable to me lel.
>>573402139I'd prefer it if no one could play the elf at allfuck e*lves>t. 1000 hours in ratclick
>>573401897there is basically no reason to ever take them.Mainstay is only 10% more damage than Enhanced Power on staggered targets and lacks the add-on effects of power.And bulwark is bulwark.
>>573402638Elfclick when
Is it random whether I can block a hound pounce or not or is the game just buggy/laggy?
>I have to sit at the exit and not help the dude carrying the capsule or doing the puzzle
>>573402612I like to think she's screaming "I AM DEAF" because the strike team keeps trying to talk to her and she's getting sick of reminding them.>It seems the tech warrior is built for slaughter!>I AM DEAF
>>573400531Open every chest you get as soon as you get it because the more you open the higher the equipment power is in subsequent chests. Equipment power level is the most important stat by far, it goes up to 300.
>>573402612Any examples? Sounds cute>>573402638True>>573400639Minus the Minotaurs and other assorted units Fantasy has I guess yeah
>playing lots of skittle since release>3 health curios, 15+30% damage reduction, plus whatever TDR>toughness generation out the ass, Resurgence memes making coherency regen perks actually good on low toughness builds (it's flat regen and doesn't scale with having 200 toughness)>actually feel quite tanky>can afford to make mistakes and be okay>noosy is quantifiably a better player than most veterans>pure fuck-you damagemaxxing build with Assassination Protocols does very mean things to monsters with the new plasma>can somewhat easily clear auric daemonhosts with a bit of help>no claw necessary>77% crit rate tranny blades melt through even h40 hordes with relative ease>objectives complete themselves>reviving retards comes at no risk or real costYeah I'm giving this class a comfy/10, it might become my favorite to play overall, just for its ability to counter pub retardedness.Meanwhile>play scum>sick of desperado, decide to do some melee>didn't bring 3 health curios like I do on psyker to avoid getting griefed by bursters>instantly get griefed by bursters and wipe the first auric I play>want to have fun>go back to theorycrafting a toxin build>realize blinders don't recover on toxin kill>damage output is bad without rampage, rampage turns it into a raw damage build where toxin is almost useless>squishy as fuck, make a single mistake and die>that single mistake can be not being a complete pussy and running from every burster because tards might tard>not tanky enough to solo objectives>no stun immunity to shrug random poxers hitting me during a hacking puzzle>no servo skull>revives practically cost a blitz or force me to take bellow, basically no other way of making space besides the bugged blinders>tanky builds are impossible and/or just too dogshit to existI acknowledge that scum is the strongest class at its peak, but holy fuck is it absolutely ghastly to play in auric. I did not miss this. I might abandon the class entirely.
>>573403795https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq4SCC7A_KcI tweaked my skitarii lady's voice to be higher pitched so it sounds a bit different than the one in this.
>>573402686I'm a zealot main in both tide games so I don't give a single shit about ranged damage
>>573403795>Minus the Minotaurs and other assorted units Fantasy has I guess yeahI'm gonna let you in a little mindblowing secretYou could put a minotaur in the game wearing assorted scrap/flak armour and call it "pestigor brute" or something and it would be perfectly fine
>>573404032Very cute. Maybe I’ll choose this one when I get it >>573404689I’m talking about the giant things that are like 20 feet tall. Maybe they aren’t Minotaurs
>>573404036Zealot has access to Smiter though, why would anyone take mainstay.Or even building for plague monk interrupt stagger on your melee so you can go even more full aggro into a crowd with EP.
>>573403890Post build
>>573405201I've slowly refined my build to this and think I'm happy with it.Transphobic blades with carapace, crit, 2 crit blessingsPlasma >>573403890 picrel (not 100% on the carapace perk yet, just unsure what might be better, since I use the skull to kill most specials)3 health curios, all with coherency toughness regen, gunner res, flamer resYes I'm taking Power Overflow. Yes it's low efficiency because I don't stack toughness. It still keeps auricshitters with non-builds that have zero survivability, alive. I don't think the last point has a great place to go until fatshark fixes the skull, then I'll have to refactor some things to make more capacitance.
>>573400213Nice thing about cleave path is that it saves you a point (or two if you do want to skip True Grit) in case you're point hungry elsewhere. It's the, "If you just play well you shouldn't need it," argument that I find lacking. Most games you don't need it, true, but it's also a single talent point that'll inevitably save you from a screw-up or mitigate the damage of bursters that teammates blow up on you, both of which happen to everyone. No one's immune to mistakes, and 1 talent point to mitigate most of the only things that are truly going to threaten a down on that class is pretty cheap, even at the cost of taking one less 15% additive damage bonus.
>>573405792>not taking gromril's electrifying curseIt's like you don't want to confymax
>>573405792stamina on dodge is extremely high value on skit
>>573406070My philosophy agrees with yours, hence why I run True Grit on every build. I can spare 1 point to buy insurance because I know something will eventually go wrong, even if it takes 10 games and the point is wasted until then.But realistically good play does make up for it, and the occasional burster is countered by just running an extra health curio, really. I just have the courage to admit that I'm not good enough to be that consistent, whether auric or havoc.
>>573406303I agree, I just had absolutely no need for it whatsoever because I'm either sliding around with blade heavy attacks (which doesn't consume much stamina), or actively blending. Crit spam = shock spam = stun spam so I spend more time slowly kiting than I do wanting to push basically ever.I'll consider giving it a try again, but I feel like it's more something you want to use with melee weapons that don't work if you can't push.
>>573405792I've been enjoying a build combining arc rifles, voltaic emitter and transsonic blades. Basically I just spam lighting at fools at range, and when I close in for melee I shock them and then slize and dice them. I am not sure if it is really that optimal though. I wish that the level cap wasn't at 30 so I had more points to play around with.
>one of the ritualists spawns outside the mapon second though, let's not go to havoc, tis a silly place
>>573408029>I am not sure if it is really that optimal though.I feel like the lucky bullet blessing + critmaxxing on the arc rifle is weirdly optimal if you're just going for absolute horde-raping scoreboard domination, since you can blow through half your ammo without reloading (assuming 0 charges and flensing for max crit rate).But just as a gun, I much prefer Dumdum and +1 jump, 40 shots are plenty, I almost never have to reload.
I'm playing a very fucking stupid arbites build but it's a lot of fun. Basically use the crusher and take all the stagger. You do very little damage without a fully charged heavy, but everything goes fucking flying.
How long will this penance take? It's my last one for Vet.
Stygies VII supremacy!I have had such fun playing as Skitarii, I found their weapons surprisingly satisfying to use. I just wish that we got more of them like Plasma Culverins, Radium Carbines and Flechette blasters. I find it really puzzling why Fatshark only gave us half of the whole Skitarii weapon roster.
>>573409318this and the krak one are why i just gave up playing vet
>>573409965>I find it really puzzling why Fatshark only gave us half of the whole Skitarii weapon roster.hopefully so that they can release the rest of them later
>>573409318The higher the difficulty, the faster since there will be more enemies and more opportunities to proc Demolition Team. You can also grind boretis trials and hope for grenade indulgences.
>>573409318It just takes a few missions of throwing smokes inside spawn doors and at dense hordes
>>573409318Just do mortis trials and get the super regenerating grenade thing? What am I missing here
why didn't they add female ogryns
>>573409318Not that long if you have grenade regen and throw them into spawn closets and at hordes. The explosion radius perk from the bolt pistol does not make your smoke grenade zone bigger.
>>573410219Minis for them don't exist yet
>>573409318A lot less time than the krak penance.
>>573410508most of the playable characters don't have minis thoughever
>>573410928There are tons of assorted human soldiers/psykers/scum. There aren't any depictions of female ogryns
>>573406303Why? I'm seldom using stamina on any weapon besides the power sword. Doesn't seem worth grabbing at all outside of that one weapon
>>573408029>and transsonic blades>I am not sure if it is really that optimal though.its not, use arc maul, its way better if youre trying to play shock and ball torture; voltaghiest overload and enchanced voltaic arcs is so good
So strike missions just don't count for skitty penances, cool cool
>>573411781skit stamina regen delay is 0.75 sec, which is on the slower side (a few other classes have 0.5 sec and ogryn has 1 sec)the difference between 0.75 delay and 0.5 delay seems miniscule but in practice is pretty huge. the classes with 0.5 will regain small amounts of stamina during combat even if they take actions that pause regeneration like dodging/sprinting/pushing. 0.75 delay means you generally can't go even or regain stamina while taking those actions, so if you're taking an active role in melee combat you will get lower and lower on stamina in longer fights and when something difficult takes place like having to tank a daemonhost you'll be completely out.some people advise taking a stamina curio, but I think the stamina regain on dodge talent is a better solution
>>573412020>voltaghiest overload and enchanced voltaic arcs is so goodNot Executioner?
>>573404960>why would anyone take mainstaybecause greatsword zealot is my guilty pleasure
>>573412303But my point is that you almost never actually use stamina on Skit, so who cares if you regain it or not
>>573412020Voltaic and Transonics fucks hard and does similar damage to Voltaic + Arc Maul. Claw is good too for Transonics, of course, but I like Voltaic Trans blades 'cause it's more fun to do the meleeing myself.
>>573412515if you don't use stamina then don't take the talent, in havoc I find myself using pretty much all my stamina quite frequently on all classes
>>573409318Throw them into spawn doors on ascention riser and it goes pretty quick
>>573412391i dont think its going to make a difference in break points compared to zapping the shit out of everything>>573412695you get better clear with arc maul, which is what i like
playing support is actually kinda fun. full support arby's with maximum stagger and shock mines makes it really hard for even a shitter like me to die. on auric i'm usually the last to die
>>573412020My preference is largely due to the combination of out of the skitarii guns the arc rifle being better suited to wield as primarily melee character as opposed to the galvanic rifle and how useful it is to be able to stun fuckers around you for easy killing.
>>573411121not many female assorted versions of those though
>>573413390I bet you love playing smite psyker
I have tuned the cogitator to hack into the vox frequencies of my auric teammatesLet's see what they're saying out loud during my games >HMM I must split up from my team and die one by one for no fucking reason at all
>>573414240Smite psyker is stupidly strong but it's also stupidly boring.
What dictates the amount of resources you receive from a weekly havoc chest?
>>573415376highest assignment level cleared
>malic expeditions>guy leaves because we're splitting up
>>573400731this always feels like it does zero damage, regardless of how much damage the rest of my melee-ing does
How does one play combat knife zealot in the modern DarktideWhat's the important talent nodes and abilities
Why is shotgun so awful, am I missing something?
>>573416732Which one
>>573416807yon double-barreled
>>573416978Oh, yeah. I've only ever enjoyed it as Weapon Specialist Vet with the guaranteed crits, but it's still kind of a meme weapon on that
>>573416978No, that thing just sucks
>>573416978its shit but fun on hive scum with pickpocket so you can justify unloading a gigantic cleaving shot into hordes whenever you want
>>573416732the combat shotguns are a utility weapon. They need to ADS headshots for damage, but each has its gimmick.In general shotguns are unaffected by enemy suppression, deal out decent suppression, have good stagger making them a safe gun to run around with (can even knock over a crusher with a few shots if you need to save someone), decent cleave (excellent with manstopper proc) to at least interrupt specials through a crowd, and minor bonus of easily soloing corruptor events. Accatran Shotgun, best suppression of the bunch (1 shot to suppress gunners/reapers). And its flame shot lets it burn out bulwarks or reach out and torch a sniper. My personal favourite zealot sidearm.Agripinaa, best general shotgun. Good enough to kill gunners with a headshot out to mid-range, and has the slug shot for long range.Zarona, special shot gives it a cute horde clear trick. marksman focus veteran turns it into a human sized kickbackdouble barrel shotgun needs to invest heavily into its gimmick to see much from it. Weapon Specialist vet, triple barrel castigator arbites. Otherwise its just a backup melee weapon to clear out some ragers or poxwalkers.
I get angry every single game again, maybe I should just quit until they release imperial assassins
>>573416732It has low ammo, awful range which is kinda expected for this weapon archetype but Darktide is a game where most shotguns actually have decent range, useless against armor and you have to keep reloading, which is why it's barely tolerable only with>Weapon Specialist Vet>Castigator Stance Arbitrator>Desperado Pickpocket Scumsince they all have ways to mitigate constant need to reload or ammo issues.
YES I'm cheating with a mod that makes the servo skull auto target elites. Are you gonna hate me for it?
>>573418889
>>573418889no i dont car
>>573416978>yon double-barreledPOX BURSTIN'
I have not played since they added havocWhats the state of the game, whats the metas for the classes, can ogryn go full guns, is psyker still cracked glass, is there now a range of fun cosmetics for all the classes to collect
>>573419552KRAK-THROWIN'
>>573419552RATION EATIN'
>>573419552AMMO-STEALIN'
>>573419552BELOVED RANTIN'
>>573419552AMMO HOARDIN'
>>573419972sort of, not even close, lol
>>573419552FEMBOY-SKITARII POSTIN'
>>573419552STIM SNIFFIN'
>skitarii not overpowered? good! everything should be nerfed!I've seen a few people express this opinion and I'm looking forward to seeing them begin dooming when the skitarii buff patch hits in august.
>>573419552PISS SHOUTIN'
>>573420775>Release and its bad>No one buys>Release and its op>Everyone buys and complains Gee I wonder which of these fatshark will do in the future
>>573420903skitty isn't op thoughbeit he's just fun
>>573420947skittles isn't OP but the arc gun is
>>573410056Maybe once summer break is over, the second summer break because really its tough to get started in the week between the two but they can get started making some progress on the plan for this before they leave for winter break
>>573420947>>573421065>skitty isn't op
>>573415951I had some literal black guy getting all histrionic going all schizo on a retarded psyker in heresy while the two of them were getting carried and revived constantly by the veteran I was leveling and an arby. There are some weird people out there.
>3 cuckdrone skittles on the team>all of them have the flamethrower over the revivethis can't be because of the penance who posted some retarded metavideo or something.
>>573415951I dont know why but Darktide has one of the worst coop communities ever.
>>573421358A cross between having its playerbase be mostly 40k fans and forced console crossplay
>>573421683And yet SM2 isn't nearly as bad. Then again it isn't tryhard either.
>>573421343I don't use the revive skull or flamethrower because I think that having multiple skulls follow around the skitty looks silly
why do people just not do objectives? im always the guy who ends up whacking 3 tentacles or hauling the power thingys or hacking if we don't have a skitty
>>573422358>40k fans are low iq>console players are low iqLogically it tracks
>>573421343I use all three because I love having three skulls tracking my mouse movements
Flameskull seems kind of pointless to me. My melee weapon kills chaff just as good and the flames lack CC to be useful against armored clowncars.
I think skitarii sucks!
>>573424438>Servoskull, don't record that!
poxbursters got me thinking corruption resistance is good.
>>573424935wish there was poxburster damage resistance
How do you use the Mechanicus Power Sword? What does the Energized Hit even do and when am I supposed to use it?
>>573425219>when am I supposed to use it?After they fixed its damage bug
>>573425219i think its bugged right now but you're supposed to treat the special as extra heavy heavies, it buffs the next light or heavy in the chain to just be better and heavies can be held down longer for another tier of charged heavy.
>>573422686>>573421683This is an issue across all platforms. Most gamers aren’t sapient. 40k is good.
>>573425219you use it with hydraulic impact and act like you rebound your attack key to m5 specifically for heavy attacks
>>573425219>single targetL1 > L2 > L3 > H3>horde clearBP > [L4 > H2 (looping)]first combo are all strikedowns. second combo are all vanguards. special attack button can be replace any individual input within a given combo. recommend only using the first two charges, as the weapon's non-special attacks gets a big damage penalty for using them at all until they recharge. in terms of breakpointing they're mostly useless, afaik, debuff chicanery notwithstanding; just ignore them unless you know your charged H1 thrust might do em in. mechanicus power sword is a wierdo.
>>573425219you wait until august when fatshark buffs it to the moon
>>573377017>>573377339
>>573425219sweep for well sweeping and the overhead is for single targetthe stab is a unironically a dud move as it actually does slightly less damage than the overhead.its stab>sweep>overhead for heavies just mash lights if you need to kill a couple stragglers.push>heavy>light>heavy for crowds andpushattack>heavy>heavy for single targetrun maniacs and carapace decapitator is a no brainer then run sunder in conjunction with the hydraulic impact talent or run whatever the brittelenss blessing is.if you're not running a ranged build and UNIRONICALLY using this as your main melee weapon then run superiority lmao
I have a problem with Zealot in comparison to other charactersthere doesn't seem to be any available internal "minigames" for Zealot to really lean into outside playing the basic essential mechanics of combat like dodging or hitting peoplelike something that can make the gameplay more challenging, but also increases your potential skill ceiling for the character>Psyker innately has peril management (and to a greater extent trying to make Scrier's gaze last as long as possible by managing peril)>Veteran has access to Weapon Specialist to encourage using both your melee and ranged weapons in a sort of optimized rhythym>same things goes for Arbites with Terminus Warrant>Psyker has Disrupt Desiny where you go after highlighted guys >Veteran has Executioner's Stance where you can theoretically make it last forever if you can keep shooting highlighted guysI guess Zealot has... backstabs? I guess chaining shroudfields together is a minigamethrowing knives are fun to use, but it's not really a minigame, just another weapon to useI dunno manOgryn is similarat most you're managing your guranteed Lucky Bullet stacksOgryn and Zealot both present you with tons of options for>you can NEVER ever be punished ever and when an enemy hits you they get AIDS and raped to death>when you kill and enemy it makes your next attack even more killy!!!!!!!but not a whole lot that would significantly change your playstyle in a way that requires you to add another thing to focus your attention onmanaging the heat on a Relic Blade with Cranial Grounding and Energy Transfer is cool and rewards playing precisely and skillfullythat's nice
This fucking penance is bugged and no strike mission i do is counting. Kill all swedes
>>573424383the flamer skull does a little better damage in cone mode, can actually burn down a mauler. A bit awkward but if you really hate pile-ups of elites and shields, it's still a flamer and burns right through everything.
>>573427248terminus warrant has the lowest pickrate of every single keystone in the entire game by an incredible margin. they talked about it when they buffed it recently. it did nothing to move the needle.also anon, not having a intrinsic internal minigame to a class is, in and of itself a type of minigame. you free up cognitive bandwidth to actually focus on the fundamentals that most people never fully develop let alone master, like dodging and hitting people. offloading the gameplay atoms you're describing to weapons like the relic blade was a good design decision, imo. zealot and ogryn both dont necessarily need these things to be good, and the type of gameplay fatshark wants them to experience isnt conducive to it, so they're hoping you're and your ilk're content with microdosing it through the relic blade. hopefully ogryn gets a cool weapon like those soon.
>>573427248Zealot has matryrdom, fighting at low health and all wounds. polishing those basics until you're untouchable
>gunners just kind of exist outside Havoc>go in Havoc and a dreg gunner just 100-0s me in a secondjesus alright
So how does the Ogryn actually play, what are his gimmicks other than just being big
>>573428246sorry to break your bubble anon but that's pretty much it. ogryn both takes hits and dishes them out and does it more simply than anybody else. i dont think there is a more straightforward darktide experience.
>>573428246his gimmick is making all of the enemy AI attack him, and because there is a limit on how many enemies can attack you at once this makes them all stand around with their dick in their handit's smite psyker but for some reason people think it's ethical because the ogryn still has to actually play the game
MOOTASH PHARRGH>Big man, no!>I'm down! Help me up!>Cog head's dead!
>>573427248>sprint at all times to maintain mementum>play with 1/6 normal hp because your base stats are packaged with martyrdom>never falling off the crit ramp because the only way back on is critting and you aren't critting because you fell off the crit ramp>push attack every 5sec for attack speed>hit heads every 2sec for several buffs>dodge every 2sec for several buffs>crit every 2sec for several buffs>do everything at all times to keep cdr upZealot consists entirely of minigames, but they're too numerous, too specific and too high maintenance to keep track of consciously so the only way to play is just doing your best and not worrying about stacks, uptime or breakpoints
Is space marine 2 worth it
the ranged chaff aren't actually chunking you on high havoc are they? that sounds genuinely miserable.did they not learn anything from VT2 beastmen?
>>573429103>fatshark adds archer mooks to vermintide>it's the most annoying shit change they've ever made>in lacking acknowledgement of their hubris they design their next game entirely around this
>>573430058its fun when youre not fighting chaos spawns or biovores, though content is quite limited, and short, the missions feel shorter than what you get in darktide
>>573419552NET CATCHIN'
I just want to thank advanced combat doctrines for giving me an excuse to use the vigilant autogun againIt's always nice putting niche weapons to work for variety's sake
Heartbreaking: The Team You've Been Saving and Reviving All Game Are Leaving You to be Killed by a Single Mauler Despite Standing Right Next to You
>>573429103>Somebody wanna lend me a hand here?
>>573416978It's a good gun up through auric, but you need some gimmicks for it. For one thing, your best bet is Scum, Vet, Arbites, in that order. They all have increased magazine size talents and they all round up to +1 shell in it. Scum has Pickpocket and Desperado, Vet has Weapon Specialist (the ammo reload also rounds up, so every kill you get, you can double-tap your quickswap button to load a shell and keep going. Revolver works the same way btw!) and Arbites has Castigator Stance. I've actually enjoyed it the most on tox-blinder + Rampage scum though, as a side-arm. Scattershot + Manstopper makes it incredible for blowing away hordes, which in turn gives a buncha blinder regen stacks. Unlike a lot of general-use guns, yon boomstick requires some finagling to get it to work.
>>573418889Now that is some shit that's gonna get noospheric nerfed. Also yeah I actually do get really annoyed at people who clearly have auto-tag mods. Not as bad as the niggers who ping literally every item in a 5 mile radius through walls and floors and shit though.
i don't understand noospheric hype?Just press Q and left click.
Brother got darktide on ps+ last month and we just played it togetherWhy the fuck is ray tracing mandatory on console versions lmfao, it doesn't need to run as bad as it does at allSwiggers are so retarded
>>573430196Hive scum can straight up die if you get hit by a volley and aren't dodging. I got dragged from full toughness and health to less than half as zealot because I ran out of stamina at an inopportune time.
cute
>>573433198
>>573433198forgot the context
>>573431782>last two standing>surrounded by big guys>I throw a chem bomb but go down doing it>teammate leaves the loving embrace of my poison swamp and leads them somewhere else>we die
Can you change your arbiter dog fur color once in-game?
>mechanicus power sword has zero fucking horde clear, every move except 1 is a stabWhy do they keep making melee weapons like this? Into the TRASH it goes
>>573435024>hasn't even checked the entire moveset and comes here to bitchThe weapon is still pretty shit, but at least be correct when you call it
>>573435140What's the horde clear combo then, also yeah it does dogshit damage wtf is this
Did they giga-nerf khorne infantry at some point in the last few years? My garrisons especially are performing much worse than I think they did on release, but the blood hosts also feel like they instantly take huge casualties and start disintegrating as soon as anything touches them.
>>573434979yeah, head to that barber areaI dont remember if you need to do a scourge for it or not
>>573435284Awesome thank you
>>573435208push attack - light - heavy (and you can repeat the light - heavy indefinitely)Supposedly it's bugged so that the energized attacks don't benefit from anything but the damage stat on the weapon stats. But another part of the problem is that they designed the damage on those hits with Thrust in mind, and Thrust fucking sucks like 95% of the time.
>>573435024It has the same horde clearing combo as the other relic blade which is push attack into repeating light heavyHow hard can it be?
what non 'tide coops do you guys recommend? Preferably ones without malformed swedes running the show.
>>573435575PAY—>Preferably ones without malformed swedes running the show.fuck
my skitty sounds so cute when she chokes on tear gas
>>573435382That feels a lot better thanks anon, but still>harsh diagonal on the first swingEwww manThis weapon needs to do a lot more damage for me to consider it worth using for anything over the other options>>573435495I usually pick weapons with simple movesets because complexity isn't for games with 300 enemies on screen IMO
>>573435575Nothing I've played has gotten anywhere near the mileage as VT2/DT have, but I've enjoyed:Aliens Fireteam EliteWorld War ZToxic CommandoGunfire RebornNo More Room in HellKilling Floor 1/2Jump SpaceEarth Defense Force 4/5/6If you have several friends to play shit with, also check out:BaronyReady or NotThe Outlast Trials
>>573435575Of older coop gamesEDF seriesGauntlet: Slayer Edition (Swedes but support has ended) A solid classic.Zombie Army series, for pure zombie shooting action.Aliens Fireteam Elite is good for a run through or two.Orcs Must Die 2 or 3, only up to 2 player coop though.
>haven't played in forever (~the Twins fight)>come back for skittles>start leveling up a hive scume too>want a heavier hitting weapon to help deal with elites, but the revolver reloads too slow for run and gun fun.>would like to use the quickloader revolver like I used to on my old psyker>it does show up at all in the fucking item shop.>get pissed>eventually unlock needle pistols>later realize that we can now change weapon marks like changing weapon cosmetics, and I essentially had the quickloader revolver this whole timemotherfucker.
>>573435736>I usually pick weapons with simple movesets because complexity isn't for games with 300 enemies on screen IMOI agree with your thoughts.If they're gonna make a complex weapon, it should at least be very powerful to compensate for it
>>573435575>Preferably ones without malformed swedes running the show.I still love Helldivers and think its some of the most fun you can have in coop right now. The ones I am looking forward to are Aliens Fireteam Elite 2. The first game was great, but its dead now. And Ace Combat 8, because that'll have full coop and coop progression.
>>573434979Not sure. Bought the premium version because the scarification is accurate enough it made me uncomfortable
>>573436384the new system is a lot better innit
>>573435736IMO the problem is that entering that horde clear chain with a push attack incurs a stamina drain which is too heft of a price to ask for such a milquetoast weapon.A similar weapon in ratclick was the bretonian longsword. It had a similar light/heavy chain, but for it you had to block cancel at the end of the chain. That was a lot more acceptable IMO. The bret LS also had long reach and stats that were pretty damn nice. It also had a special heavy attack where you character blocked while charging the heavy. I personally like pairing that with the parry trait for perfect blocks to safely prepare heavies to snipe high value elites amidst a horde of threats.
>>573436656At least I know that I'll have those marks for when I get around to leveling arbits.>the new system is a lot better innitRemember "the locks"?
>>573436136How is the newest EDF game? A friend that likes them hasn't said anything about it.
>>573430196At least this has toughness.How I would have done it is additional ranged attacks within [amount of time] do X% less damage, and tune down the combined ranged damage from the non-elites too. This way you could have kept the sliding and dodging less spammy. Enemy accuracy and damage should also decrease with distance (instead it seems to be like in HD2 where they keep getting more accurate... why?), a problem that wasn't obvious in the original maps but certainly is in something like the trench one.It's clear the original intent of keeping all these ranged enemies down with suppression really isn't a thing. At best it's a side effect, flavor. 4/5 times you rush them, the 1/5 is someone with a full ranged build. No one takes out their gun like "yeah I'll suppress these guys".DT is the kind of game where they should go back to the drawing board with all the mechanics and their intentions and look how they work in practice now.They won't of course, a lot of the issues stem from player character power, and you can't nerf players anymore, you can only tune everything else up.It's not like they have the designers and coders to do any this either lol.
>>573436904when it launched everyone said very bad things and then they said nothing at all
>>573435575>Just found out Abyssus was made by swedesFar Far WestRoboquestRavenswatchDeadzone: RogueFlyKnight
>>573436904My group all enjoyed it. Not much to say about the gameplay if you've played another EDF game.The story got pretty batshit after a while and was certainly memorable, but it does start pretty slow and could be frustrating at times since a lot of the early missions are rehashes of stuff from EDF5 (there is a reason for that, but it's still a bit annoying).
>>573436904Dated. The mission design/coop system is horrible.
>>573436994>>573437314>>573437720So I shouldn't buy it for the usual group to play with him then. Thanks anons
>>573405792Why no rad-sink talent? It syncs up perfectly when you shoot-vent-shoot
>>573437848I personally think EDF has a problem where you need to literally cheat or grind for 400000000000 hours to start enjoying the game so I would never play them ever again.
>>573430196Alright so in theory, it makes perfect sense. Ranged enemies that can straight up fucking murder you force you to actually use the cover mechanics that otherwise get completely ignored. In theory it makes you take cover, move strategically, let sharpshooters shine, etc. and it makes the melee enemies rushing your position very dangerous because oh no they're trying to flush you out of your precious cover into a killzone!It's war in the 41st millenium. Makes sense. In practice: ten million poxwalkers, ragers, and a big fat cumslug are descending directly on top of you from five hundred monster closets in every single direction making hiding behind a box the most suicidal action you can take so get your piss toughness and spam dodge harder than a dark souls character while shitting out screen clearing rape abilities
>>573424438Their models look goofy, heads are too big and feet are too small. Only really looks bad if you go max height.
>>573430196The devs haven't figured out the idea that enemy shots should be blocked by enemy melee.
veteran really is hard mode what a helpless pathetic class
About to try payday 2 for the first time, why are there 1300 achievements?
>>573439813keep you engaged for 13 years
>>573436992Cute>>573436416How does coop in those games even work? Do you just fly around shooting each other down?
>>573439813A rather insane amount of them is beating each map on the each difficulty. Though you do get all lower difficulty ones for beating the highest. Thats gotta be a third of them right there. Then like every may has like 3 stupid acheivments for doing something dumb. Then your meta progression BS.
>>573435575Outlast Trials and Labyrinthine are pretty fun if you don’t mind a horror slant. That’s about everything I can recommend in good faith. There was that one Ork racing game but I don’t think it’s coop.>>573437958That does sound miserable…
>>573439813Every DLC has like 30 just to unlock the masks and gun parts
>>573440581>How does coop in those games even work?AC8? No one knows they haven't released details yet. But I imagine its just like playing the campaign missions but designed for more players.
>fight in an alleyway with a fellow skitarii bro>suddenly a pack of maulers charges at us>I charge into combat to cut em up expecting my bro to help me out>the fucker runs away and leaves me to fight the entire pack by myselfCowardly traitors are the worst kind of team-mates.
>>573403890>>realize blinders don't recover on toxin killstop reminding me
>>573439813There is like $100 wroth of mandatory DLC, don't bother.
>>573405792You made a build that exploits at least 2 bugs (free noosy and infinite plasma without overheating) and you marvel how it performs in aurics, where you can do well with a heavy sword?
>>573439764you exist to piss
>>573441837Damn he's just like me fr
Doggo > Scat-arii
>>573439813Almost every achievement is multiplied like three to six times so I think in actuality there's about 600 achievementd which is still insane.
When is the store resetting and how do I find out for the future?
>>573442568People complained about the revolving store so to fix the problem they removed the fomo timer and kept everything else
>>573442568It resets today after like 5 or 6 hours and then again every 2 weeks on the same day
>>573442652Tencent is the evilest game company.
>>573364952Funnily enough I do worse in aurics as vet than in havocs. I guess in havocs people appreciate smokes so much that they stick together whereas aurics is every man for himself.
Remember when Fatshark had a multi-month long communications blackout while the game was going up in flames and their first social media post was a "Who's that pokemon" thing with a scab bomber? Sometimes I remember
>>573443405'member Nope! Just the good old plasma gun!
>>573378970Welcome to 'Tide games. This is how it has been since VT1. At least in Vermintides you could play with bots that were stellar and provided smooth games on Cataclysm.
>>573443298Vet actually requires different builds for auric and havocExe stance trivializes aurics beacuse you outregen any melee hit you let through. Weapon specialist also works fine, you can take whatever weapon you want and you will never run out of ammo, and you will not drown in specialists if you melee.Havoc is different. You can't shoot unless teammates protect you and exe stance doesn't solve it, and you can't melee unless you specialize in melee. Hybrid builds don't work at all.People stick together more because they know they need to protect the vet and don't want to trigger extra hordes and bosses, or they are scared shitless and want protection. Neither is a thing in trenches though.
Blessings for my zealot revolver?
>>573442658This probably gets mentioned all the time, but I really do wonder if this fomo setup actually makes them more money than just having everything in the store at once.Surely most of the tourists who only try the game for a bit whenever a big update drops stick around for, at most, one shop rotation. And given how shit most of the bundles are, the chances of them seeing something they'd buy during that time are far lower than if they could just oink out on the Krieg sets whenever they wanted.
that feel when all my real life friends would rather play league of legends than coop games like barotrauma, apex legends, deep rock galactic, left 4 dead 2 with me
Why can't my Arbiter dress like a Cadian
>>573444097hand-cannon and surgical (or point-blank)
>leveling hive scum>I'm still kind of low level with sub 200 weapons >quickplay heresy>sends me to a high intensity map. The one with the cryo rods at the end>3 playstation teammates>they aggro a daemonhost in the very first room and all get downed.>have to solo a boss before I can rez them>they all shit talk each other and two of them ragequit before I rez anybody>they get replaced by bots>nobody ever takes their slots>have to carry this faggot to the end solo>lots of "hack the terminal" objectives at the mid-mission event>have to brute force some of them with a medkit>drag the psnigger kicking and screaming to the finish linegod damn fuck heresy. I can't wait until it lets me into damnation. Skitarii was way more comfy to level.
It's Plasma Advanced Combat Doctrine Skitarii for me.
Ogryn sledgehammer when
I got plasma pistol early for buying over $1000 worth of aquilas, AMA
>>573446136If that was true then i'd have it too
>>573446136That's a big pistol
I just don't think many of these people should be playing aurics.
>>573446858I dont think auric should exist at all
What time does the paypiggie part of Darktide update again?
>>573447178in like 3 hours, probably, maybe
There should be a friendslop tag on steam
>>573447529Most tags are community created
>>573446858Probably not, but if only good players were in Auric, it would become readily apparent that we need a new difficulty above it because then Auric would be fucking boring.>inb4 Havocfags
>>573446858>>573446925>>573448513im a malice god
>>573448610BASED
Worshipping the god of poop is kind of crazy.
>>573449184people still b poopin tho
>>573435575space marine 2
>>573448513>it would become readily apparent that we need a new difficultyThat would be based. Sweden would NEVER
>>573449315I'm straight up shittin bro
Is there a way to automatically continue sprinting after sliding?
>>573449184/me poops on you.
I'm not enjoying tardwrangling retards as hive scum. Especially whenever I need to stand still and hack an objective.
>>573449330based bad rus devs vs cringe bad swede devs
I LOVE PLAYING THE SAME FIVE MAPS FOR A WEEK
>>573449883Then play a different map, retard.
>>573449883Why not play some other map?
>>573444720Why? Isn't it just okay splash damage?
>>573449980>NOOOO I WANT MY +10% REWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whats the meta weapon choices for Arbiter if you're going full dog
>>573449635honestly yeah unironicallyat least their badness is in game balance alone, they made it run well unlike fattedshark
>>573449184>khorne>I love violence, whoops I've been driven mad by violence>tzeentch>I crave knowledge, whoops I've been driven mad by knowledge>slaanesh>I love having a vagina where the palm of my hand should be, whoops>nurgle>I love...eating my own shit?it doesn't feel believable
>>573450102does anyone actually give a shit about plasteel and diamantine? Especially at endgame. Like, Havoc rewards feel like such a retarded spit in the face.>your reward for doing the hardest content in the game? DIAMANTINE AND DOCKETS????Hey what's that other game Fatshark made that lets you complete tasks for actual rewards like hats and bootshmm hrrmm
>>573450332nurgle makes horrible diseases feel painlessthe imperium has incredibly poor hygiene and rampant disease is commondo the math
what went so horribly wrong?
>>573450332it isnt>i love eating my own shitto start with, just like slaanesh would just be loving sex and going to orgies nurgle would be>man i hate having to get up to eat food>man i hate having to get up to take a shit
>>573450565Wasn't darktide.This is the swede's world, everyone else is just living in it.
>colour for hives cum hair doesn't apply to eyebrows or beardsWHAT WERE THEY THINKING
>>573441593I adore when low-skilled retards like you immediately project their inadequacy onto others while simultaneously being too dumb to realize how retarded what they're saying is.Noosy bug is worth 2-4 skill points at most, and as you can see, the build basically has 2 points left over. Spamming the skull does not do anything, a tag every 2 seconds is the most you can abuse it. Also bouncing up and down between charges to abuse Sequenced Charge would theoretically be optimal, which spamming also does not support. Bugged plasma doesn't actually help in a meaningful way because the DPS gain compared to just firing at 100% heat with +20% strength isn't actually that impressive. Idk maybe the old plasma can abuse it with leftclick? I only use it to blow up bosses and bulwarks and don't often bother activating the exploit.I hoped that both of these bugs would get fixed before these dumb swiggers go on vacation but apparently not. Now we're stuck with them for a month, and with retards like (You) nonstop screeching and projecting their own retarded malicious nature onto others.
>>573450332>>573449184Nurgle isn't the god of poop and more than tzeentch is the god of birds or khorne is the god of genetic haemophilia.
>>573450124same as any other build, it's either arbi maul, shock maul, or shield+maul
>>573450868people don't generally dye their eyebrows or beard
does skitarii's 10% brittleness on electrocution talent stack with multiple applications or how does it work
>>573430196honestly it feels not too bad. I just came back to havoc and it feels easier than before. I don't see any bubbles any more. Wonder if FS nerfed shooters in havoc.
>>573449980I'm not clicking through an additional menu to get the story version without modifiers, retard
>>573451309Yes. Up to 40%
>>573451230ok? who gives a shit what people 'typically' do?
>>573451008>Nurgle isn't the god of poopYet his realm is filled with fart gas and his simps built a fucking poop tree in hab dreyko. Interesting.
>>573437219Flyknight is great loved every second of it... which was like 2 hours. Its more a techdemo. The guy is making a full proper game but I aint expecting to play it for years to come.
>>573449184>be an average citizen of a hive city>no encyclopedic knowledge of the setting>one day your entire party starts turning into a festering wound because you drank some bad tap water>your entire existence is agony>you hear a voice in your head telling you that all the pain will disappear if you worship the poop god>agree>pain instantly disappears and all of a sudden all the rot on your body feels warm and pleasant>you must share this revelation>all must poo
>>573451597This wouldn't have happened if you had more faith in the emperor, btw
how to knife skitty good? Why would take over trannies?
>auric Rolling Steel you know where this is going>hot-join a mission with a level 28 skittle xbot>he's not even doing enough damage to kill poxwalkers>train needs hacking>see he has a skull>he manually activates the hack and just stands there instead of letting the skull do it>door opens>a wall of armor comes through>tardlet has exactly 0 DPS against armor>some psyker joins>instantaneously goes down>at least the xbot revives him before going down himself>have to solo like a dozen maulers and a handful of crushers on a medium damage build>sure whatever>get to the capsule plugin>another wall of armor comes through the door>this time both retards die outright before I have the time to clear out the armor>when we already wasted 2 minutes dealing about 1/3 of the damage we were supposed toYeah so I just left and let them wipe. What is it about Rolling Steel that attracts such a humongous abundance of giga retards?
>>573451440Coming to the realization that the Admonition cult and the uprising in general is all an elaborate allegory for indian immigration
>>573451309Brittleness is a global stacking debuff on enemies that everyone in the team can theoretically contribute to, at least until the cap is reached, but then reapplying still refreshes duration of course.
>>573450565It's a solid game, but the driving gets old, and I feel like the combat needs something more. Maybe the specials/elites need some adjustment or something. I think the time spent driving is the single biggest detractor though. It's just not that interesting for something that takes up probably 40%+ of your play time.
>>573451819Couldn't tell you why but this line made me like Rannick significantly more.
>>573451790You wouldn't. Trannies and Arc are tied for strongest melee it has.
>>573451880What if I put Thunderous on my maul? Now there are two sources of brittleness, both the maul attack and brittleness from the electrocution stuff. Do they stack separately up to 80% or do we just reach 40% faster?
>>573451790You pretty much always take knife for the insane mobility at the cost of losing a ton of horde clear. It's not a weapon that's good at staying and fighting, it naturally lends itself to endless kiting. That's why you typically only see it in builds where the secondary is so good at killing mixed hordes that the primary's performance in that role is no longer a concern, like inferno staff.I don't find myself caring about it on skit over transonics, unless I want to fuck around with a useless chud skull only pacifist build.
>>573451790Makes you run faster than a guardie from a commissar after he done kissed a tau. That's about it though. Maybe bleed stack maxxing, with the chord claw unique bleed stacks, on bosses/monsters?
>4/5 auric storm survivor>oops 3 console players>eventually overwhelmed>mission failed>wonder if the scoreboard is broken because it says I killed a thousand enemies while each of them barely cleared 100 each>penance says I'm still at 4/5I assume because I didn't die before the failure screendo I take the lease on life I just got an wait for my friends to come back online tomorrow or do I push it
>>573451790Knife is for bleed dot builds, everything else is a meme. Bleed dot is not a meme but it's still shit.
>>573452379yeah if you're downed and it just goes to the failure screen it doesn't count as dying for the penance, you got lucky
>>573435024They are probably going to change it.
>>573452274Every application of brittleness is going towards the same stack that is capped at 40% total rending. All the other debuffs in the game work like that too, so like skullcrusher and all the DoTs, although sometimes different means of application are capped at fewer stacks than the global cap.
>>573432575Noosphere allows you to melt specials and elites without taking anything from you. Just keep doing it over and over.
>>573451802Streamers said it's fastest for leveling.
>>573452548Except the Phosphor Pistol which has a separate stack. It's one of the reasons you see it being run in H40.
>>573450929>Noosy bug is worth 2-4 skill points at mostThat's 2-4 skillpoints more than a normal build gets, it's an entire keystone worth, it's huge. Especially in skitty tree which has many good talents.
>>573452639Twins have always been fastest for leveling, the problem is that it requires someone who has it unlocked first. Not a huge problem, but still annoying if you don't have friends.
it sure is called deadside for a fucking reason
>>573451349It's the opposite, gunner spam is so bad bubble doesn't work so it's dropped (I still see it often but it seems people take it for toughness regen, not protection from ranged).There might be less shooters due to hordes being replaced with elites and shield higgas though.
>>573451309It's standard 2.5% brittleness
>>573452653Interesting. I could see that being an oversight.
Vetbros, power sword or combat axe for general use?
>>573435575DEEP ROCK GALACTIC!Can't believe no one before me mentioned DRG.
>>573452548This is not exactly correct.There is standard 2.5% brittleness, fire 1% brittleness, bonesaw 2.5% brittleness. They all have separate stacks but the resulting effect adds up (both 2.5% stack up to 40% iirc and 1% stacks up to 20%, if you stack all 3 I guess you can get 100%).And now there's phosphor debuff which is its own thing.
>>573452639>fastest for leveling>sub-bot noobtard shitters wipe 9/10 missions unless they're hard carried by a singular playerThey're mutually exclusive so which one is it?
>>573452982Probably not since it's "part" of the DoT which does fuck all for damage, and it doesn't contribute to the 40% AFAIK. I could be wrong on that last part since I just assume people are slamming bosses with brittleness.
>>573453007I went DS => psword => shock maul => psword => dclaw => DS => shock maulI settled for shock maul for now. I gave up on it initially because of its pitiful performance against racers (unless you are arbites or have 5 stacks of hammerblow, which you can't maintain on a ranged class), but now I have more confidence I can overcome its drawbacks (by magdumping ragers on sight, fuck them).
>>573452982>>573453278It's not a bug or oversight.There are six different, independent stacking brittleness debuffs in the game. picrel
>>573453375>It's not a bug or oversight.You never know with these dumbfuck Swedes. There is a non-zero chance it isn't actually intended to stack the way it does, even if it is currently coded in a way that is functional.
>>573453007Psword is great but it falls apart the second something goes a little haywire and you're left on your own.
Trying to click heads is impossible in Darktide. How are you supposed to hit them when enemies just keep spazzing
>>573453375Right, I forgot the heavy sword meme special. I didn't know rending shotty was separate from standard 2.5% though.
>>573453515It's easier when you don't have arbites or bullrush ogryns
>>573453349>>573453501how about falchion
>>573452009I think it's the implied trust in our abilities. "Guys? Do your thing.". And isn't one of the 'intro' chatter lines himself telling Zola "you chose these operatives, have faith in them."? Or am I thinking of a different mission? Story-wise, we probably earned a good few brownie points with him by dragging ourselves out of the Orthus fuck-up.Really, I feel we get a glimpse of who he is behind it all, those self doubts and recriminations, the pressure he's under, and the VA does deliver a sense of him realising a lot more shit is hitting an ever-growing fan as we progress through it. The moment the doors open sets the seal on it.
>>573453515Clicking heads is easy in DT, but you functionally need a weapon that can cleave well. Think Plasma, Phosphor, Galvanic. These sorts of guns allow you to get past the problem of "Fucking retarded groaners are standing in my way." If you know where you are supposed to be clicking (tag first), then you're good. The spazzing only happens once the horde gets close enough for the guys who do the spazzing to commence the jiggling.
>>573453713It's not bad, but it isn't good. It's solidly meh.
>>573453515>doesn't have the reaction times or focus to track heads through the chaosYou have a vitamin deficiency and it's messing with your nerves.
>>573453515jump shots!
What precisely causes the plasma bug? As in, what about the node interaction is the cause?
>>573453835Hows the shovel? Sorry i am new to the game
>mfw>every>single>auric >is full of complete drooling retards>every single one>not a single fucking exception>there's always at least 2 complete freshie noobs that belong 2-3 difficulties lower that don't do anything>zero damage>not a single objective even considered looking at>pinged sniper? *dies to it*>someone got netted? *lets them die*>picking up 90% of all available ammo to deal 13% of the team's damage >how is this even possible??I haven't had a singular normal game in auric ever since skittle released. Even playing with a friend, we regularly get 2 actual sub-sentient vegetables with their snoygger badge getting lost backwards through the level and wasting our time waiting for them to die to a trapper behind the point of no return because they failed to keep up.This is the lowest that game quality has EVER been.I'm going back to havoc.
>>573453768Yeah you're right, I think part of it is the glibness in his voice, like whatever's going on in the chapel is as good as dead already and he knows it.
>>573453973i wouldn't mind turbo shitters in my aurics if they just knew the fucking way. I am so tired of retards running in circles, backtracking, or camping like they're playing Killing Floor. Just move the fuck forward.
>>573453950>What precisely causes the plasma bug?Fatshark's incompetence when coding the plasma gun to, for some inexplicable reason, constantly vent heat while in the first stage of the reload, instead of just putting in a switch that flips and turns that functionality off when heat hits zero.>As in, what about the node interaction is the cause?You take the passive reload, fire a shot, initiate a reload, and swap away during the first reload stage (pulling the mag out, setting your ammo to 0, and venting heat). Once the gun starts passively reloading, your heat permanently vents back to 0 without any input even while firing.
>>573453713It's okay if you can invest into melee.On a veteran, you can't.
>>573454097Can't boss, lookin for plasteel
>>573453971Fold or regular? Regular is stronger. It's okay either way. Frankly, once you get decent enough you can bring anything you want up to Auric. Thoughbeit that is based on you understanding the class, underlying game mechanics, game sense, and know what to prioritize. Don't overthink it. The game is piss easy until you hit Heresy if you haven't played before. You'll be alright.
>>573453971Like the other anon said, just have fun with whatever you think is cool for now, you won't be carrying those weapons for long and you're a long way off from worrying about what's "good" or not. Better to ask questions when you've got something more specific, like how to use or build for x weapon, or how to deal with y enemy/situation when you bump up against some struggle points.
>>573454102So the passive reload just breaks the gun as being read by the game that it's constantly in the first step of reloading (and zero heat). Odd, but I can see it. Probably easily overlooked if no one was messing it, but also potentially hard to fix.
>>573385237You can still make Servitors out of Skitarii so there's nothing wrong with what Kayex says, and he has Alzheimers anyway.
>>573453007You have three choices>power swordA godlike weapon that can do everything, horde clear, armor kills, big boss damage. Has some mobility issues that might get you slapped.>dueling swordThe first cope. Resolves the mobility issues, is okay at doing everything but not great.>knoifThe final cope. You have given up. Accept your fate.
>>573454306It's trivial to fix, just include a boolean that flips to true when the gun starts reloading, and false when heat hits 0, with potentially other break conditions. That's a handful of lines of code and like 15-20 minutes of QA testing for someone who actually plays the game and understands the concept of exploiting bugs. It was the first thing I thought of when seeing how the passive reload worked. They're just incompetent. Btw most guns with multi-stage reloads (such as the arc rifle) break terribly when you start a partial reload, swap away, and let the passive reload do its thing. You can complete all but the last reload stage, let it passively reload, empty it, and then your next reload is just the last stage slap and you're instantly back at full.The talent quite literally breaks the way reloads are coded, and I assume THAT is the difficult part for a company as incompetent and severely retarded as fatshark.
>>573454142I'm convinced at this point that we need harsh resource punishments for wiping games, to eradicate entitled turbo shitters that need a hard carry. Make them hemorrhage their precious plasteel until running 20 meters to the opposite corner of the room to pick up 10 plasteel and then getting dogged to death because they are blind, deaf and too quadriplegic to find their fucking push key, is not just a waste of time, but an active and massive, FELT detriment. Make the YOU HAVE FAILED THE EMPEROR screen show a really painful graphic of materials being deducted from them BECAUSE they failed. Rub their fucking retarded noses in it. Treat them like the actual fucking sub-human animals that they are.
>>573454645Bro that will just make them scrounge harder. But it might be a nice way to pressure the people with infinite resources to stop leaving it all behind and the newbies who still need it too.
>>573454142You already looked there, it's not going to suddenly spawn. It's time to move. There's more plasteel ahead. And if you ask for plasteel people are more than willing to press E on whatever they find. It's a lot faster than 1 guy doing it all by himself.
>>573454695>scrounge>die>wipe>scrounge>die>wipe>scrounge>die>wipe>run out of resourcesoption 1>stop having fun>uninstalloption 2>lower the difficulty until this stops happening
>Penance: Do a bullshit useless waste of resources on 1000 enemiesWhich penance was the worst for (you)?
How do I Recon Lasgun? Just burn and crit?
>>573454743Yesss bro we need to hemorrhage players and push away newcomers who don't have a bazillion hours of tide game experience accumulated over the past decade, excellent plan!
>>573454761True survivor (I still don't have it)
>>573454761The ogryn ones because the numbers were simply very high, they took a long time. Skit was fast. I finished those last weekend without trying very hard.
>>573454818point in general direction of enemyhold left clickwalk backward if necessarywatch the world burn
>>573454951Do I use the fast firing one or slow firing one?
>>573454818yes, + the shock trooper talent
>>573454865Okay so completely hard lock them out of auric. Don't let noobtards shit up my aurics. Don't give them a choice. Force them to play the noob difficulties they belong in, instead of ruining literally every single auric they enter by virtue of being too retarded to survive even 2 poxwalkers.
>>573454818Storm Trooper, Burn, Crit, hold down left click. This is the strongest build that the class has. I am also going to say that due to the power of the Claw on the Skitarii, that Shredders will probably make a comeback. Kraks just don't matter when the Claw rapes, and the Transphobic Blades gaps.
>>573454452well-paid hands made this post
>>573455041Adapting to your team is a skill in and of itself, why aren't you enough of a gamer to recognize they're struggling and stick to them better to show them the way and keep them on their feet? A team is only as fast as it's slowest member.
>been playing more PBB with rumbler lately>realize how much fun I'm having>ammo isn't that big of a deal>does insane damage has tons of crowd control>refunds back ammo based on how much you used while crits give you more shots>go back to veteran and realize how fucking boring and narrow everyone's builds are for it in comparisonI know it'll never happen because fatshark can't balance for shit but it would be nice to get a redesign of marksman or executioner stance to refund ammo used based on kills during it or crits. Could actually make a lot of the more dogshit weapons nobody uses anymore fun and viable instead of everyone just running VoC and the rare execution stance chud.
>>573455163I do not have fun holding the hand of a severely retarded first-time-gamer twelve year old that can't tell left from right and gets lost backwards through the level turning a 20 minute mission into a 45 minute escort minigame. They shouldn't be in this difficulty if they die without me holding their hand every step of the way, end of discussion. This isn't even a hot take. Are (You) one of those niggers that needs carrying every game or something?I am talking, and I'm not joking, simply walking forward at normal walking speed while firing a psyker staff non-stop, not sprinting, not sliding, not skipping anything other than the occasional chaff that runs past, even opening crates, and STILL being accused of "rushing" because these fuckers can't keep up.
>>573455347it's so tiresome
>>573455347Maybe you shouldn't be playing co-op games thenGetting my team to the end IS the fun for me, the shittier they are the harder the challenge, i thought you liked a challenge anon? Helping others just a bridge too far for your kind?
>>573455347>Are (You) one of those niggers that needs carrying every game or something?Nah I'm just a team player. I don't mind waiting at egress points to watch over someone who's lagging behind, it's not really any skin off my back to use the "go here" way-marker for people, I will play bodyguard for ranged classes if I see them struggling. I don't know if you really "get" this whole co-op thing. But aside from all that, I play Auric all the time and you're being completely hyperbolic, it's very rare to get someone genuinely getting lost (Lights Out excluded) in my matches, but I do often see them split off for resources and get delayed because they had something spawn on them, or get turned around for a little bit, but full on lost? I pretty much never see that.Yeah your hyperbolic example is frustrating, but also pretty uncommon in my experience. I'll tell you one thing for sure though, you'll win more games if you look out for your weak links instead of getting so damn mad about it like that's going to help anything.
slop in 7 minutes? or is it 1 hour and 7 minutes
>>57345572026 hours 3 minutes
>>573455705>I don't know if you really "get" this whole co-op thing.So the greentext you quoted is actually true, because you do not seem to understand that these literal parasites do not cooperate.Cooperation implies mutual benefit. Please explain to me how the sub-bot shitter is benefiting me in any way shape or form, when I could be netted right at his feet in an empty room with no objective to do, and he would still run past?>you're being completely hyperbolic, Try playing Rolling Steel and you'll very quickly change your mind.
>>573455840that's friday thoslop rotation is on thursday
>>573455872Lmao funny, Rolling Steel is actually my favorite map, I snap it up and play it any time I see it on the board. Anyway, you sound like a completely miserable person to play video games with, continue to seethe nigger and I hope one day you stop getting so frustrated when someone isn't playing online toys with you at your level of standards.
>>573455872the benefit they bring is the glazing their characters give you for being such an epic gamer>i could be netted right at his feetso don't do that L skill issue
>>573455720HAHAHAHA
>>573455009VIcI think it was the middle of the road option
>>573456045SWEDEN
>>573455705nta but are you trolling?>it's not really any skin off my back to use the "go here" way-marker for peopleWe're not talking about the same kind of person. People being bad is not the issue. We're talking about people who don't react to way markers. Any attempt at communication is either completely ignored or they get mad. They are not noobs who are trying their best. No sir. There's a different kind of player. The roomba. The headless chicken that doesn't speak english. There can be zero enemies around and I still watch them turn 180 degrees and run back to spawn, even after I say "this way" in chat and mark the correct path. There is no plasteel back where we came from. I take everything I can find. >but full on lost? I pretty much never see that. I see it every day. You're just lucky with your games. Or it's a time zone issue.
>>573455989>unironically defending a literal parasite ruining gamesI hope you die the most painful and most dishonorable death imaginable and that history forgets your entire bloodline. A curse on your head, you fucking freak.
>>573456045I like the ogryn
There's a boobis though (looks like shit otherwise)
which bleed proc do I put on the knife? 8 stacks on crit or 4 stacks on bodyshot? I find it a bit finnicky when I have to do 4 body shots in between uncanny strike application which requires 2 headshots but what's the practical uptime on the crits on vet and zealot, and what talents do you need to take to make it reliable enough to use?
>tfw one of my best buds is the type of person anon is seething about>he's very nice but incredibly, inexplicably "not all there"he gets lost with beyond trivial ease, doesn't understand what a waymarker is (he always asks what the multicolored "eyes" are, and wishes people would stop spamming "him" with notifications when someone is marking or tagging a target, has zero concept of how doing the mission objective causes it to progress. plays the game with the sound off because he "hates how all the enemies make stupid noises" which always makes me laugh every time. anyway, i make sure not to drag him into anything higher than heresy for you guys.
>>573456337>hates how all the enemies make stupid noiseshas to be some form of eldar eloquence
>>573456337Is he actually fucking retarded?
>>573456337>plays the game with the sound off because he "hates how all the enemies make stupid noises" which always makes me laugh every time.Now you are a saint, because I'm the pro-newbie anon and even I wouldn't have the patience to play with someone doing that.
>>573456337>hey 4chan my friend is a retard can i get an attaboyI hope he stabs you to death.
>>573456045You know, it's even worse than it seems. The other items are the same between all of the classes.
>>573456291>which bleed proc do I put on the knife?8 on crit by default, because you should be hitting things in the head.It can be okay to run 4 on bodyshot, on zealot, to trigger Scourge (crit on bleeding targets) and Blinded by Blood reliably on the first hit.
How do you make ammo last with Bolt guns? I tried them as Veteran and ran out of ammo after playing 1/3 of the map
>>573456516it's summer you can't expect a swede to work in summertime
>>573455213you're having fun with pbb rumbler because it's practically the strongest, most godlike build the game has ever had outside of that short period of broken dog bleedthat said yes veteran needs extra sauce
>>573456045
>>573456582>How do you make ammo last with Bolt guns?You use them as headshot snipers and don't shoot at trash unless there's a group of 5 shooters you want to suppress real quick by making one's head explode.Don't use the explodey one, it runs out real easy.Hit breakpoints properly. You want some damage talents, likely piss tag. Flak is very good. Unarmored is viable, but you probably want unyielding so it's not useless against monsters.Don't magdump unless you are about to die if you don't.Use your melee more.
>>573456045>>573456265They do sort of conform to body type B, but still look awful
I hate whatever bullshit goes through people minds in this part of the Excise Vault: Spireside-13 map. It's either - everyone splits up and gets raped by two separate hordes- or one player goes underneath by himself and gets surprised by Bulwark & friends- or one player gets annoyed and pushes the button which spawns a horde to where he retreats to the platform filled with gunners- OR (and this is my favorite) we take FUCKING FOREVER to do all of the above and then some stupid fucking Arbites, it's always Arbites btw decides to go up and explore every single nook and cranny going all the way to the top while we wait for him at the exit
>>573456337>this is the average heresy player>this is probably the average normie gamer as wellExplains a lot as to why modern game industry has spiraled down the shitter.God help us.
>>573456842It's the worst part to be slow in, you run and click the fucking button, there's a horde already
>>573456045>it costs more to buy all of these than it does to buy an actual warhammer squadjust shut it down at this point
>>573456443i genuinely don't know. i think he is extremely autistic but disproportionately sociable and very kind. imagine a golden retreiver if he was a human being>>573456489i wish you could play with him so you could understand. couple years ago we were going through some dark souls 3 co-op one time, fighting pontiff sulyvahn. i accidentally unplugged my controller the same moment pontiff lost aggro on me. instead of plugging it back in, i decided to just watch my buddy "fight" the boss and he died with maybe a two-thirds of the boss's HP left. he would be doing ok, and then suddenly he would just completely stop moving or doing anything and just get hit. it's like he would stop playing to take a sip of water or something randomly, while shouting shit like>dude my fucking character just stops attacking or rolling and i get hit this game is so goddamn stupid and it cheats it sees youre doing good so it just freezes you this is BS!over and over. eventually i deduced what was actually happening was that he didn't actually know how stamina worked because he would keep spamming roll or attack, and end up getting stamina starved. i actually laughed my ass off when I figured it out. last year we played elden ring and it was a lot better. improved a lot but still had a penchant for getting lost as fuck even with a map lmao. he thought it worked like fatigue in morrowind and it just made you do less damage with attacks or take more damage when you were rolling lmao
>missed the savlar chem dog sets because i wasn't sure if i wanted to buy it or notthank god, i probably would've regretted spending money on something so meaningless
Its time to skibidi denpa up in this bih!!!!
*kills an empowered daemonhost by grabbing it by the crotch and ripping its balls off*whoa whoa whoabuddySIRa chaos marine? we're just... WAYYYY too low on the 40k food chain to contend with the likes of a SPICE MARINE
>>573454097>I am so tired of retards running in circles, backtracking, or camping like they're playing Killing Floorbelieve you me i saw a veteran in h40 do this exact same shit yesterday, guess how it ended
>>573456816Do I have to build it so it kills every special with 1 shot?
>>573456045You'd imagine Fatshark, being a business, would seek to capitalize on their current increase in player count with something people would actually be willing to spend money on, but I guess not.
>>573457128>>dude my fucking character just stops attacking or rolling and i get hit this game is so goddamn stupid and it cheats it sees youre doing good so it just freezes you this is BS!
>>573457128i never said i didn't believe you anonif my friend were talking about me like this behind my back, id stab him to death
>>573456045What is this shitI'd rather get hive scum release pants
>>573453007You have three choices>power swordliteral piece of dogshit with 90% downtime cause you're slashing *activate* enemies *activate* on *activate* ly *activate* every 10 se*activate*conds cause you *activate* have *activate* to *activate* activate *activate* it to have even half a fucking hp of *activate* damage done >dueling swordits quick, you'll die if theres more than 5 poxwalkers though >knoifonly good for cutting your own wrists as the crushers shove their concrete sledgehammers up your rectum
i like cosmetics we can earn through gameplay
>>5734572971 crit (Deadshot talent + Surgical blessing) headshot, specifically. But yes, more or less.I believe you can hit most headshot one-shots in auric, but some might require awkward perks (like unarmored for dreg gunners), or piss tag, or crits. I believe you can 2-tap reapers with crit headshots. It's been a while since I've played bolter vet.
>>573454875i finally do but it took some trying with only having randos to play with
>>573457382retard
>>573457504t. maliceletback in the pigsty with you 70 iq mongoloid, shush
>>573457329>stabbing john co-op to death because he's telling people he thinks you're bad at directions and video gamesgod please be a melee hiv cum player i need someone this aggressive in my aurics
>>573456045It's a very bold choice from Fatshart to make a microtransaction strore then make everything in it absolute ass with a GW tax on top.I wish there was a way to check how much everything in the store sold because I don't believe more than a dozen people total are going to buy this dogshit.
Smoke grenades need to be nerfed
>>573457382>power sword bit*activates power sword* this is my *activates power sword* favorite meme in *activates power sword* the whole world
>>573457594you said yourself, he is a kind person and a good friendwhat did he do to deserve you mocking him for a crumb of online attention? Other than treat you as good as a dog treats his master.
>>573456045Oh hey, finally a prefect chestpiece for my psyker
>>573457581>unironically struggles with power sword activations>too retarded to do the push combo with dueling sword>dies with the knife>calls others maliceletlollmao even
>>573457193just give the zealot a meltagun. then you can pair with a vet to do the classic Ciaphas Cain chainsword laspistol into meltagun combo that effortlessly kills chaos space marines every week
>that'll be 900 dollarydoos
>>573457693because he is the way he is and i love him anyway. people being bad at video games doesnt matter and >>573455872 is a grumpy bastard that values his time enough to whine about its suboptimal expenditure but doesn't seem to value it enough that he finds like-minded souls in his journey
>auric maelstrom>theres a level 29>2 people spend entire final boss time killing half the horde, the last teammate is a retard who died to captain overhead>i have to deal with soloing the boss and also handling a horde>we wipei wish i could find non retard nigger teammates without having to queue high havocs
>>573457815>Works on Hivescum and ArbitratorHuge!
>>573457862>people being bad at video gamesshould be forced to play in a difficulty where they don't function as a detriment to everyone else in the game
>>573457862>i love him>but not enough to avoid dragging him through the mud if it gets me (you)s!!I seriously, actually hope that you die very soon.
>>573457815
>>573457896>Have to choose between a few bolts on the cheek or wearing a full helmetFatshark, just let me combine cosmeticsHave a separate helmet and face slot or something
>>573458154Please Fatshark, make a separate face slot just so this fucking pigger can run around with a dildo permanently stuffed in his face.
>>573457932cant grow if you dont suffer. some people also need more guidance than others.>>573457958>things you love dont frustrate you from time-to-time and you don't bitch about them anonymously occasionallypretty much every thread is about how awful fatshark or their designs or decisions are, yet its one of the more popular generals on the board. that speaks a lot about the actual perceived fun of the game even if the quality is suspect or whatever. your black and white thinking is extraordinarily cringe. i have a very strong feeling that you are actually projecting more than anything else. i hope you have a nice night, anon
>SOMEBODY CALL FOR A BOOM?!
>>573458226All I'm saying is that given the choice, people aren't going to pick the cheek bits over any other hatThey could use the money they wasted to hire me so I could spend half my career going on vacationThat and badgering GW to make more Arbites hats
>>573458394>heads DOWN!
>heheeee beginning capture :-)
>>573458368>some people also need more guidance than others.Some people are literally wired wrong in the brain and do not have the necessary gray matter to process things in the necessary ways to succeed in auric.How can I offer guidance to someone as retarded as your faggot sub-human friend who can't even put 2+2 together and figure out what tag markers are? Immediately kill yourself.
Wrist mounted weapons!MECHANICUS INNOVATION
>>573458576These aren't just bugs, the servers are absolutely fucked
I wish kraks or shredders were more viable compared to smoke
>>573458564>im smarter than all these other retardsnoblesse oblige, anon. debase yourself. we are all worthless alone>How can I offer guidance if [nonsensical, emotionally-charged drivel]one little fundamental at a time. its quite simple really.
>>573458226Kek
>Zealot>not Hive ScumSWEDES
>>573458962Kill yourself retard-lover.
>>573458736They are. In aurics.
What's a good setting for a deep voiced skitter? the more inhumanly deep the better
>>573459009>Fill cosmetic store with all this repurposed scrap gear>Hive Scum cosmetic store remains the exact sameIt feels like such an easy win but they manage to find a way to fuck it up
How do you kill Bulwarks fast? I kept kiting 6 of them for 5 minutes and wasn't able to kill them with Power Sword
No videogame should be over 40 ping in 2026
>>573459290>6 of themThey were never meant to show up as more than 1 maybe 2. You aren't meant to be able to deal with 6 of them clipping into each other and staggering their attacks so there's always an impenetrable wall rendering them all invulnerable.If you're completely on your own (so, playing auric) you have no choice but to use brute force and resources. Bring krak or frag grenades and grenade regen talents, basically.
>>573459290explosivesif none available, dueling sword/dclaw parry guarantees a return hit while they're vulnerable
I finally got my first mission out of 5 for Auric Storm Survivor! I feel tempted to switch to Overload Arc Maul, but my maul isn't 500 yet and I'm not sure if it's too specialised for pubby matches compared to my current transphobic redline phosbor claw.
>>573459290Isn't powersword with sunder supposed to cleave through their shields?I don't remember all the nerfs veterans got.
>>573457932>>573458368is it even possible to move up in difficulty without being a shitter for a while?
>>573459290stealth speedrun the mission
>>573459035you have more important things to being deal with than me, anon. also consider being less hostile to people for no reason. it's unironically terrible for your health, unless you're a sociopath in which case there's no known health concerns and you're good. carry on, in that case.>>573459109try>index 0.14>array depth 9.1 mm>39% decryption
Why did I suddenly get an extra dodge bar for the same weapon? I used to have 2 but now I have 3
Imagine caring this much about fucking Auric runs.
>>573459316the speed of light in glass and through packet switching circuitry is much less than c
>>573459736you picked up a dodge-count increasing talent, or the weapon's mobility stat increased such that an extra dodge-count was added
>>573459736>doesn't tell us what his weapon and build are>doesn't tell us what patch his baseline was in
>>573459526I was a shitter for one match and went back to the drawing board to fix all the issues with my gear, talents, lack of skill. What to do when so and so situation happens. And I never shittered since.>>573459736Your leveled it up and the mobility went up.
>>573459916if you don't already know the game inside and out it will take longer than that to figure out what's going wrong.
Does corruption resistance affect corruption for getting downed?
>>5734593160-80 is barely noticeable
>>573457815probably the only head piece I'd ever put on scum, but it's also barely visible, and at this point I pretty much exclusively play arc maul voltaic skitarii
>>573460024that's like half of your dodge iframe duration
>>573459985Like you take enough hp damage to fall down and get revived, no. You take one bar, or well, lose the current one is a better way to put it.
>>573459748>kicks you in the nuts on the tennis court instead of playing balllol imagine being mad at a game dude its only a game why are you being so salty
>>573459776Reddit is that way >>>/lgbt/
>>573460260More like>Scream and throw your racket around because your friends are not diving after the ball and shooting tricks
>>573460426it will take longer than 40ms for your packet to travel to the other side of the world even under optimal conditions
>>573460456but it's aurics nobody is expected to trick shoot just to be able to use the wasd keys and shoot/stab occasionally
>>5734591090.19, 3.4, 74% is what i use. makes reverent sound male
>>573460572Is your closest amazon web server in the other side of the world?
>>573460753not every game will have enough players in every location to use the closest amazon server farm for everybody
Kills caused by the explosion from the Mk3 Plasma Gun's charged shot are not counted as player kills.This means that it does not interact with many "on kill" talents.SWEEDEEEEN!!
>>573460872You sound poor
>good work varlets, you made moebian steel! the war will forever change now!>the war doesn't change
>>573461135It did tho, you just don't see it
>>573461082you sound like space marine 2 is more up your alley
>>573453007Combat Axe with the uhhh.. the hitmass ignore on headshots, whatever that's called, is pretty solid. Personally though, I recommend the chain axe.
>>573461135you're stuck in a timeloop reliving the same few week period in an episodic fashion over and over and over again. better not bring it up with management because it might result in an execution "just as a reasonable precaution".
>>573461193No I can't understand you with the cock in your mouth
>>573454431>The final cope. You have given up. Accept your fate.what's wrong with it? true to my CS experience having the knife out makes me go fast
>>573460456>>573460671Retard-lover thinks finishing an auric mission without going down a dozen times is akin to doing trick shots lol
>>573454452>include a boolean that flips to true when the gun starts reloading, and false when heat hits 0, with potentially other break conditionst. vibecoder prothis shit has to be handled with state machines or it becomes entirely unmanageable spaghetti
>>573461525retard lover is in good standing with fatshark most of the other voice characters like the retard ogryn
I am NOT phone baking
>>573460937I tested it in the psychanium. It definitely works for veterans out for blood. I can refill my entire toughness bar by blasting a group of poxwalkers.Scoreboard and the killstreak counter mod count them as my kills.Which talents don't work with it?
which one? for my veteran with a bolter
>>573462009right has 1 more damage, obviously pick that
>>573462054...but one percent less cleave damage
>>573462009Right if you can change it to mk6, otherwise left.
>>573462009Always the one with the sharper tip because of the push attack
>>573461435the knife is the weapon you pick when your melee slot doesn't matter to you at all, but you pretend like you're a melee god because you picked it
>>573461289the best 40k book is about this
>>573461435Anon doesn't know how to build the knife into an effective melee weapon so he thinks it must suck (it doesn't, he is the problem)
>you are now required to have a set of curios for coherency toughness regeneration and a duplicate of every build that uses them in case you get skitarii in your party>skitarii might not even bring the auragrim
>>573463403What on Earth? For what purpose? That curio-based perk doesn't work if any enemies are in close proximity. It's worthless.
why on earth are all the shitters in heresy
>>573463557Because that's where they belong
>>573463403It's a flat amount, if your build is already toughness heavy you're not going to get much out of it.>>573463451bro r u stoopid
>>573456045fucking finally, I was waiting for the jungle ogryn to come back
>>573463403I always have one +30% anyway
>>573463715>bro r u stoopidAh. I see now. I did not know.
Why does the game keep disconnecting?
Who is Naught and why does Darktide say the righteous fear it?
>>573453056Do I need a mic for that game?
>>573464568Ur mom
I want to be mating pressed extremely violentlyCoop games for this feeling?
>>573464673not neededPings and text chat are more common.
>>573464673only if you want to scream for dramatic effect when you get grabbed
>>573463715>It's a flat amountThat's the point, havoc doesn't penalize it.
>>573456337People are so magical sometimes.
>>573464945Ratclick and play Kerillian.
>>573463451>That curio-based perk doesn't work if any enemies are in close proximity.It does if there's a skittle in the team that brings the toughness aura.The aura specifically enables coherency toughness for all teammates regardless if enemies are occupying the melee slots.
>>573462009Mobility is the dump stat, you want it at 60% if possible.
>>573460038I remember when we saw this face coming with the Hive Scum and it actually looked good, but somehow once it got added into the game just looks bad.
>>573458154>Have a separate helmet and face slot or somethingToo complicated for the swedes to make + it's lost technology and that is now lost to time.
>>573458576>my feet hurt>these meatbags haven't even read Lord of the Engines>i wish i was at home listening to techno hymns
>>573465102I always yell out WAAAH in voice if I get grabbed by something in an online game>>573465572Fatshark is filled with ugly people coping that people could look anything over a 4/10 in bad situations.You could make an argument that they're classists for a clickbait opinion piece.
New>>573465980>>573465980
>>573435945>baronywhy is the discord full of fags and weirdos it makes it hard to find a game
>>573410508"minis" for ogryns don't existyou calling us "mini", twigboy?
>>573457193The chord claw shouldn't be able to do that at all. All the classes are too over powered to the point of retardation where every class is basically a space marine tier in their own right. Which is fucking stupid and immersion breaking for the game.If we apply this same retarded "power level" to an actual space marine it'd be a class that has>300 health>150 base toughness, and 4 unskippable +25 flat toughness nodes in the skill tree>veteran's suppression immunity>ogryn's dodge stagger passive>ogryn's "tank" passive>have slowdown and stun immunity>moves as fast as a stealth zigger with a knife>get same amount of damage reduction in the skilltree as arby and ogryn combined>get arby's True Grit and zealot's Until Death as passive skills>get access to gold toughness on all his abilities>get like +200% extra melee and ranged damage and 150% rending on all attacks in the skilltree from rest of the nodes>grenade regen like vet, but he gets boom bringer as a base blitz.>have a servoskull companion like skittle that does like 800k damage on its own and doesn't take up the blitz slot.And all his weapons would be retard tier powerful where he can just either mag dump a plague ogryn or use his power sword and kill it in 10 seconds
>>573424383I put it down when a boss appears to kill everything around it while I deal with the boss. It's bretty gud for that.
>>573464945Ogryn in darktide then dodge into the mutants
