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any lobbies?
i just creampied ragnarock btw. Saved 30 bucks :^)
How do I unlock the zodiacs? Surely the most popular and beloved characters made it in and the HIV ridden self-loathing director didn't exclude them for some asinine reason like they are too japanese because he wishes he was born in Los Angeles.
>>573469006KEKYPOW
Anyone home?
We are all playing Granblue on steam right now.
Lyobby?
i havent gotten time to play yet, whats the go-to build for nowadays? i see people with over 80k hp and that just looks silly to me but what do i know, im gonna get a friend up to par on the weekend and i wanna know how fast you can actually do it with the Crucible now
>10 posts>page 9"alive game" btw
>>573481561thanks but we're in /gbfg/
How the fuck do I dodge Paradise Lost and not die?I have 100k HP and just get runshot running around.
religgers lost
>>573482183The circles are easy just watch out for the lasers and just... dodge
>>573483229The circles sure but the lasers just are instant how can I even dodge those?
How do you play Beatrix?This clock mechanic feels really bad.You have to take no action for like 5 seconds just to trigger her rage state and it's just always moving when I dont want it to because im trying to power attack and now its on Green instead of Red or Red instead of yellow.
>>573483534Unless the dev changed it, you should be able to see multiple white/purple flash lines on the floor before it comes
>>573476868There's a new Mastery perk system that lets you change a characters playstyle, imagine builds in Diablo/Path of exile but very casualized e.g. skill nuking, support heavy, normal attacks etc, in there are perks that give you fat chunks of HP, they also add a 2nd tier of weapon perks which also ad HP, damage cap , etc. Tbh it just feels like you can pick the best parts of the three trees regardless, eg for Cagliostro rocking the heal over shield, faster collapse rock throw, and faster skill cooldowns. as you pick 3 perks from 4 available from each of the 3 over mastery trees each character has.
>>573482183Run along the right edge of the arena for the first one, the later ones also seem easier to dodge on the right side (looking at Lucilius as well. If there's a Vane his shield is long enough to protect the party during the full length of paradise lost.
Downloading the game rn.What should I know/expect going in?Is it possible to play solo/with only one party member? I don't want a bunch of retard AIs cluttering up my screen.t. bitter mh fan
>>573468292>Lancelot>Put every SPA regen and perfect dodge sigil on him>Spam Twin Blade strike>Use his skill that transfers your SPA to teammatesEasy way to wheelchair online lobbies
>>573488464just checked steam charts in case i bought a dead gamewhy the fuck are there suddenly 55k players after constant sub 5k peaks?
>>573488464AIs are arguably better than most players, they perfect dodge/guard everything and are capable of handling mechanics.
How do I even progress in this game?Last I played the hardest boss was Bahamut on the boat and I got my weapons from him but never really did anything else.I feel like i've hit a wall because I cant beat lvl4 of this new mode.Do I just keep grinding lvl3 survrey to level up my weapons? What about my sigils I have no idea what im doing with those at all.
How the fuck are you supposed to play Gallanza and Mag? I cant seem to do damage really with either. I tested charge sigil with Gallanza but it doesn't do anything on him just like the ranged one for Mag
>>573493245Get your main's master rank as high as possible, then gtet the AI up to rank 10 at least (use Ambrosia from inventory from lyria journal achievement rewards for MSP).Transcend a stinger/defender weapon as far as you can on your character and get the following sigils/traits on your main, then on your AI.>character specific sigils if they're useful for that character, these come from siero's shop and also from transmarvel for the + versions>Fatebreaker>War elemental>Berserker echo (need 25k+ atk)>Spartan echo (need 80k+ HP)>DMG Cap Level 60-65>Supplementary DMG lv 15-45>Improved Dodge Lv15>Nimble Onslaught Lv15>Guts Lv2+>AutoRevive Lv2+>Greater Aegis Lv15+>Aegis Lv15+>Potion Hoarder Lv15 (on player character only)You should have 25k+ attack and 80k+ HP. If your attack is too low then you can put in Tyranny, if your HP is too low then make sure you grab the +15k HP master rank nodes.Then if you have any leftover slots you can get the following>Celestial Ventusfor damage>Quick cooldown, cascadeFaster skill cds
>>573495834Here's a start.https://youtu.be/CumCKT-LpXs?is=LCcZHBsVjs0sp_VF
I just started playing, Who wants to do the story together. Can you even do the story together?
>>573498083Kind of
>>573498239Okay do you want to play together? I'm having fun but hate playing solo for too long.
>>573498461I'm sorry brother I can't, I've already went through it a million times so I don't feel like playing the early game much.I hope you'll find someone though.
>>573468813I was gonna do that but ended up not caring
So we're all laughing at all the people that thought Damage Cap sigils would be useless in ER, right?
Anyone doing research as to who are the best ai companions now? It seems Zetta got hit pretty hard from the pogo speed nerf. Eustace might be cracked.
>>573468292Can you import an endgame save file so I don't have to spend 20 hours to get to the DLC content? I googled and it looks like you can.Is there literally any reason why I wouldn't want to do this?
>Do the rank up for chaos+>He actually hits hard>Every rando just melts left right and center
>>573501790Cag is still amazing
>>573498824I'll never find someone as cool as you anon.
>>573501932It's a direct continuation of the base game. It's assumed you're just gonna continue from your main save file.
>>573501932DLC is more of the same game, willinglyh skipping half the game just to rush endgame is kinda silly since the whole fun is progression.20 hours is nothing for this kind of game, specially since online is alive and you can just do coop to get people to carry you if you feel like it.
>smug potatoes bully local eternalswell, guess i am in fatebreaker now.
>>573502728>>573503056Okay but what if I want to play Endgame though where everyone is...
>>573503056>the whole fun is progression.This is like saying the whole fun in a Monster Hunter game is doing shitty HR quests just to unlock G-Rank where the real game begins
>>573503751people play monster hunter games a year before the real game comes out?
Can someone explain the new weapon/trasncendence system like I'm a retard?My terminus weapons are obviously useless dog shit now. But I've transcended some of the alternatives as high as I can with the materials I have now and they aren't any better because I need really obscure stats to make them work.So right now no matter what I equip I'm getting my ass beat and can't beat the next mission to progress. If I wasn't so rusty I might be able to overcome the skill issue but I'm just getting annoyed I just want a retard-proof way to get into the new DLC stuff because my old "good" builds just suck now. I'm at conflux 4 right now
>>573503751yeah bro just skip the first version of each Monster Hunter entirely and wait for the expansion. then immediately use cheat engine to insta clear all quests and get all gear right up to the last quest before DLCthats when the fun begins
I forgot how quick the main story is>2 hours in>Chapter 5
>>573504210>just skip the first version of each Monster Hunter entirely and wait for the expansionThis is quite literally what people do for ever Monster Hunter game ever
>>573488650expac just came out
Nobody is playing proud quest I guess right?
>>573504052step 1. transcend a stinger or executioner weapon to +2 or +3step 2. take off all your old +ATK% sigils, you don't need them anymore because the base attack is so fucking highstep 3. fix your traits
>third Chaos+ rank up quest in a row with some faggot Sandalphon with less than 30k HP unable to dodge the croc's swirly, instantly dying and throwing the fight>no Guts, Autorevive or Potion Hoarder>they don't even spam buttons to self-reviveWhat the fuck us wrong with these players? This isn't the Terminus meta anymore, I have 200k+ HP and still do more damage than you because of the new sigils...
>>573482183The lasers are telegraphed around the edges of the arena. Watch their sequence and use the earlier lasers to time your dodge.
>>573504052Go Defender, get some of the new combined Damage Cap and Attack% Sigils applicable in the new difficulty mode, some Guts, Grand Aegis, Potion Hoarder and Autorevive while you learn the fights and you're good to go.Damage optimization comes later, right now you should focus on not being a drag on others in MP
>>573505302Why is it always Sandalphon tooI swear 75% of the players online are Sandalphons, and most of them are ass
>>573505302Sandalphon player here, I'm still using Ain at Chaos++ and I haven't had an issue yet
Should I drop the Lucilius sigils from my build when I'm getting into chaos difficulty or do they still hold up?
>>573506314Damage Cap is the only damage sigil that matters, you end up getting so much attack that you'll be overcapped while progressing
>>573468292the rentry needs a complete overhaul desu
>>573506314Gamma x2 is still pretty useful
>>573503751>>573504516Monster Hunter died with 3U.
So I can just pick whatever weapon I want now? For Terminus I have too much hp but ascended still seems to be nice.
any tips on how to play seofon or i just should go back to Id?
>>573508394for now, yeahascended terminus is an option you can switch to later, but it's not as huge of a powerspike as it was before
magi is so underwhelming i wanted her to be glass cannon megadps wuxia sword summoner not this support eugen hybrid
Can you farm vouches and mastery points in the conclux or do you still have to spam than one raid?
what determines if you get regular vouchers or a transmarvel voucher from leveling up at 100?
>>573468541Thanks m8, I hope so.
>worried about mastery point because mastery traits eat up a lot>the new slime quests gives like 50k MP per runI see
Why didn't they make the roguelite mode multiplayer?
>>573512745I mean the last time the multiplayer was dead as fuck after a month unless you searched one of the three endgame quests
Help me decide bros. I can get the game for 40 bucks on steam, or get the switch 2 version for 65. Obviously I would get much better performance on PC but I kinda want the portability. Which one should I get?
What sigils should I use if I want to be survivable?
>cleared the Chaos difficulty quest and now my HP is over 50kUhhhh....so now my Terminus weapon just doesn't work now?
>>573513880You're supposed to use the tranny weapons available to you until you unlock tranny terminus at the end
>>573513880Im just 700hp away from being locked out of my terminus, better get to farming ascendance
>>573513880>I got weapon transcendenceWait...so now Terminus weapons are obsolete?
>>573517160they are until they aren't
Is there anything skipped if I use the ticket to recruit fraux or fediel
>>573517160You can use your Terminus until you unlock the Bubz fight to unlock Transcend for Ascension then you use that until you beat the game
relinkebros... I missed you spreadsheet fuckers.
Jesus christ I haven't touched this game since pre-Siete and I just used to play flowchart Io and top contribute. Wanted to pick up Fraux and I am getting absolutely exploded everywhere. Anyone know what the fuck I'm supposed to be doing to actually contribute something to fights?
>>573519145im pretty sure if they created even a gacha or a live service relink 2 it would absolutely MOG THE FUCK OUT of the og GB
Best summon you've found so far?
>>573519238Perfect dodge more then attack in the timeframe where you have I-Frames
>>573521393I've gotNA 40% Supp 11NA 35% Supp 11Skill 40% G Aegis 14Chain Burst dmg 45% Cascade 14At the moment.The summons are way stronger than I thought they'd be
is it possible to get lucilius sigils in +? I'd want versalis heart + ignition or atleas with something else
Well, it looks like we've got quite a bit of postgame brosit's pretty funny that terminus has materials gated behind 45k power raids
>>573514000So just slap my crit weapon back on until I get Terminus Transcendence?
>>573520786It would but it'd take more effort than Japs want to put forth right now, especially the boomer shareholders. And if it can't compete with the post-Genshit chink gachas it ain't gonna go far in the gacha world at all.
>>573522409>behindThe quartz is obtainable after them?
>>573482183Play Vaseraga and pop Immortal Pain to gain invincibility and then channels Netherwrath to soak incoming team damage onto himself.
I'm a new player, is Drain good?
Relinkies, if I'm playing Vas do I even need to swap from Terminus, what's the point of having more life if I'm just gonna be at 1 HP anyway?
>>573523752Nah, the ragnite comes from these.The material I posted before is Divinity's Crimsonplume, and you need three of those for the first transcendence level. I'm hoping that the first quest doesn't have an abysmal drop rate for them.
So how are the new characters faring as AI partners? Is there an updated tier list of characters suitable for that?
>>573524832Ahh the earlier steps. The only rough drops are the idean/memory reskins for the regular terminus stages.
>relink generalWe are so back, i may host for a bit for story progression
>>573524687Hewwo please answer...
>>573524832Is there an upgrade for Faa sigils?
>>573525808I-I guess I'm asking mostly whether it's good in relation to stuff like Aegis instead if I need to specify...
>>573524804Awakened Ascension Weapon is a stronger than Terminus so you'll want to use that once you get access to it by beating everyone's favourite jobber
It's been more than 24 hours now.Is Maglielle good?
You are making sure to support your teammates, right grubbers?
>havent played since luci (non zero) came out>didnt finish the sigil grinding>need to start getting shit for Fraux since shes my favorite of the Evokers and I finally have a new character i wanted>need to grind up shit for sigils and shit>used to play siete but need to get used to the game again>have to swap back to unga bunga siegfriedgrim, at least this is just a temperory situation.
>>573525808Drain is good.Easily the best heal sigil
>>573526458I have Berserker Echo + Drain and Berserker Echo + Aegis, so you would say Drain is better?
>>573526160Most people aren't even close to grinding out end game at this point.
i fucking hate what they did to Narmaya. instead of stance switching, all you do is mash X in freeflutter stance wtf. time to find a new main
>>573526563If you're getting oneshot take the hp, otherwise drain.If you're still learning the bosses as well, see if you can fit a firm stance in as well.Makes learning mechanics much easier when you're only getting suck and shoved around half as much.Stingers have them as a selectable sigil
>>573525164yeahfortunately the plumes seem to drop decently often from this other quest>>573525868No idea, but he drops Celestia Aqua, Spartan Echo and Fatebreaker V+ for his listed sigilsHe also has pic related as a drop
>>573526975narmaya and sieg mains seem to be the most upset with the dlc changes, but at least naramaya has three different builds between butterfly burst nukes, stance finisher spam, and tank/debuffer, so I'm not too upser with her builds. lancelot "mains" complained a bit, but most lance mains I have seen agreed with the FoF nerfnarm goes back to stance switching once you get her higher tiers for that build so i'd blitz the story to unlock the next tiers asap if you hate how it feels
Any tips for playing Cog?Which combo do I focus on doing?Spears, scissors, saws or hammers?
I guess its finally time for me to actually play this game all the way through. I don't know what it was but I just never bit that deep into it.
>>573527821Meanwhile Charlotta mains just ooga booga as usual
>>573528163spear is the fastest and seems to do decent damage on big targets since it goes in a linescissors do a lot of damage and is slightly sloweri have no idea what’s the point of saws and hammers, they don’t even deal that much damage and take eons to perform
>>573527821so once you unlock the third one, you would stance shift twice to get both effects, then stay in freeflutter for 3 finishers and then stance shift again to keep the buffs?
Should I keep rolling for 20% Normal Damage Cap up or just keep this...
So why would I not just stay in Yellow Mode with Beatrix throughout most of a fight and Super Armor through everything, other than Link Time Mode where I'd switch to Red?
>>573529246You get like 1000% damage cap, just let it be. Or you can savescum if you want to try some more.
whos the best char now that sandy got nerfed
>>573529457So what you're saying is 20% Crit is more important
>>573528746yeah charlotta has three flavors of unga bunga, but the invincible one is particularly braindead>>573529176looks like it, but you would still want to situationally use dawnfly for parries or if you need the big aoe
>>573519238see if you can get nimble assault 30, it really helps a lot with aggressive bosses. when you perfectly dodge something, you get like 5 seconds of invuln to do your combos. it also gives you a chunk of sba meter and cuts your skill cd for perfect dodging too. it’s a very underrated skill. if you can’t get 30, even 15 is fine since it’s just 1 less second of invuln every perfect dodge
A bit sad that the general concept of building a character is still pretty much "just cram as much dmg cap as hard as you possibly can", but beyond that I'm having fun.
>>573529445Think of it this way.You can add the stout heart sigil to your build and play in red or green the entire game as well.The green drain is bigger than any drain you can hey from sigils, and stacks with it.The red can probably be replaced with more than one sigil?
>>573529545You'll get like 200% crit too.
>>573529483Probably charlotta
>>573529483charlotta if you want brain off like sandy used to bejust do the plunge finisher since the pizza cutter got nerfed
>want to play Fraux because sexooo>go into Fate Episode>muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh Rios muh RiosRuined....
>>573526267>Make a stupid mistake and get vaporized from existence when a boss look at me>Whole team drop everything and just sprint toward me full speed to revive>I have auto revive
I should treat this game like Monster Hunter, right?Also I like Narm but I don't know too much about her, do they go over her backstory or do I have to read the gacha for that?
>Trying to do a canon playthrough all content with MC>Feels clunky and terrible because damage relies on a 3 step song and dance to get worse performance than half of the roster for 3x the effort>Of course they release Sandalphon with 0 weaknesses and 10x the strength and fluidity, do nothing to make MC feel better to play after an entire expansionWhy are cygames devs like this? No actually why can you actually feel their disdain for the MC every time?
>>573530089>I should treat this game like Monster Hunter, right?Not beyond "accept quest to go fight something", that's about the only thing they have in common.
Among the new characters who do we think will scale the worst at endgame?
>>5735302902B.
>>573530089The first couple fate episodes will give you a quick summary. It's pretty dull compared to the actual gacha, but you can watch the gacha's fate episodes on Youtube if you care enough.
>>573520786I think granblue makes enough money to sustain continuous updates for relink, right? I'd rather they do it like Monster Hunter, because a gacha means being downgraded for phones because no developer wants to make version differences.
>>573530091MC isn't nearly as jank once you get past the storyit's impressive how fucking awful the kit is before you beat the game
>>573530390Then I'll do that. Having waifus is no fun if you know literally nothing about them.>>573530178gotcha
Bear-sensei, all my attacks are hitting above cap, how do I get more damage cap when I'm maxed out on dmg cap sigils boosts
i’ve met at least 3 danchous whose gameplan was to substitute, die over and over and eat up all our crit barfor what purpose
Why is the farm mini-dungeon thingie singleplayer only? That's such a waste.
Who is the most prevalent new character online you've seen?
>>573530565there’s a ton of damage cap in masteries and weapon transcendencealso you have the celestial sigils right
>>573530636I think a multiplayer version thats just boss rush or something could work but the current floors/structure wouldn't work in multi
idk what it is about this game, but i cant find a single character that i like. there's always gotta be at least 1 gay thing about each character that i hate. i want to switch mains to try something else but there's nothing that just fully feels cohesive, isn't completely fucking braindead and spammy but isn't clunky and slow.
Ew wtf why did this game copy Genshin's Paimon when everyone hates her?
>>573530758Fediel>Fraux>Mag>Eustace>Bea/Gallanza
>>573530758Close tie between Fraux and Bea for me.
>>573530054when I try to drop my revive on someone they ALWAYS have some form of resuscitation on them. I just want to feel like a hero.
>>573530758maglielle by a long shot. i’ve seen some gallanza too and fraux on occasion. no bea or eustace so far and a single fediel
>>573530856Granblue invented Paimon.
>>573530856retard
>>573530856you already tried baiting people in the other thread with genshin
>>573530828meant for >>573530724
>>573530758easly mag, fraux as a distant second
>>573530758Magi > Fraux > Bea > Eustance > Gallanza > Fediel
>>573530767yeah I have a few celestials. I'll look into them
So Song is the debuff extender specialist, who is the buff extender specialist?
>>573530565oh is this how it works, judging from the training dummy?
>>573531307I'm not sure exactly myself, there's a tip in-game that says almost as much (you want to hit as close to 100% as possible). Problem I have is that how am I supposed to stop overcapping as charlotta when there doesn't seem to be enough cap boosters for my build.
>beat conflux bubs first try with my one decent character and 3 shitty npcs
>>573529730>but the invincible one is particularly braindeadYou say that as if it's new, we were Invincible half the time even before Endless Ragnarok. Especially with the Warpath Sigil
>>573531276It’s another Eternal but he’s an angry twink catboy, I doubt he’s ever gonna make it into anything outside the gacha.
When do I get new weapons for Fraux? Are they story locked?
holy shit SHUT THE FUCK UP VYRNi can't stand this retarded lizard talking and he looks disgusting to boot oh my god its Nata all over again
Is this fire goblin quest still the fastest way to farm fortitude crystals
Is there a new fast way to get Fortitude Crystal L or is the ahriman mission still the way?
Charlotta's AI now knows how to use the Warpath so it's kind of insane
I am almost certain this is Bubs VO doing this guy lmao
>>573532694no, you have ex slimeblasting
>>573532694>>573533394Before Chaos it's double Griffins, when you get to Chaos the game bombards you with Fortitude Crystals
Are Captain, Vane or Cagliostro really good supports for online play now? I like how Captain can seemingly be built into a shield healer or actually survive with Substitute. And Vane has the team player mastery going on too. Any suggestions or experiences with these?
>there's even MORE grind
Should I finish the endless ragnarok story before level up other characters?
Is there any use for conflux CP besides spending them in recovery rooms? They don't give you extra rewards for saving them or something?
>>573530020>pizza cutter got nerfedNTA but that explains why I felt like I wasn't getting many hits from it. So we're just back to mashing Normal Attack and using the Special Attack to i-frame but now never dropping Noble Stance cause of Warpath, huh?
>>573530053/gbfg/ warned you
>>573534757/gbfg/ is a nuthouse so nobody is going to listen to them.
>>573534815>Factually describing granblue characters is enough to get you labelled a nutcase because it's all just too unbelievable
Does anyone have a save file that has everything completed up until the lucilius fight/tweyen's additional content release? My steam cloud is fucked, and I had to reinstall windows so my local save is gone too.I don't want to re-grind all my shit again man..
>>573535104Nah it's more that, when you have a whole collection of different breeds of retarded schizos who spend their whole days yelling about random shit at the top of their lungs, it's pretty easy for that one grain of truth to be lost.
>>573533995finish the base story.
so is it actually worth it to give up a slot to use Fraux's sigil that forces her to delay her flip kicks for 20% extra gauge gain? even if you could maintain both buffs at all times during a fight which you probably couldn't anyway, not sure it would be worth it.
Here's a potentially retarded question, but one that I'd rather ask and look like a retard than stay in the dark; do I put my celestial sigils on TOP of having regular damage cap V+, or do I replace the damage cap V+ with the celestial ones?
>>5735338452m for the first level is fun
Is the only use for Azurite shards to buy the splendor?Same for the Canaan Whitebloom, do I just use it to buy Ambrosia?
Wait so you CAN'T transcend Terminus weapons?
Should I just put a Stout Heart Sigil on Bea so I can reliably stay in Red Mode?
>>573535167Don't the mod sites have full saves?
>>573535961You can, at the very end game but yes, using Transcend regular weapons is better than using Terminus starting off.
>>573536184How does one unlock more Fraux Weapons...story advancing?
>>573529735>>573521518Got it, makes sense. So I'm just fishing for hits till I can do big boy combos? I guess in the end it's KINDA similar to Io, just with less flowchart. I feel like when the game was just released, and the best things you could farm for were Beta/Gamma sigil, Io was the most complex. And I felt she was pretty straight forward, Less is More Vase seemed MUCH more complicated since you had to know boss patterns to know when to charge/chase whatever. How is fairing post DLC as far as people can tell?Liked em both, but Io seemed to burst much more consistently since I was shit at the game.
>>573536184Nice, any recommendations for Tweyen?
>>573534513no you do the plunge attack instead of cutter
>>573536371Yes Conflux>>573536436Everyone should just Transcend the big Health Defender weapon and use the sigils Celestial Lumen (Stamina on steroids) and Fatebreaker when you start off.
>>573536854I tried that but it felt way too slow and I'd get caught a lot mid animation cause it's slower than the spin. At this point I'll just be 'sub-optimal' and do it the way I said unless it's a hard-DPS check.
>>573536916Oh yeah and Spartan Echo since you'll be rocking 200k+ HP once you also clock in the Masteries as well.
>>573536916I disagree, I had no issue using my terminus until I unlocked my Transcended Ascension weapon
>>573535308you're not really wrong but if i gotta be real shes been like that since day 1. Shes always mentioned her friend as her driving force joining the crew we just never saw her and only gets fleshed out more in her uncaps. whatever /gbfg/ says regarding Fraux is probably some insane schizo shit while sucking themselves off but i doubt its factual and probably filled with alot of exagerations. Honestly if cygames was based they wrote something interesting with her uncap regarding Rios having a horrible brain injury and basically is completely mentally hendicapped but whatever the fuck Devil did to the hair piece is curing her but only seems to work when shes wearing it so im kinda hoping it becomes some form of "doomed yuri" kinda shit come transcendence where she has to come to realize she made some form of Faustian deal with her primal but Rios isnt really doing anything she wants by her own will or some shit. They wont but i feel like its going there given the end of her uncap, build her high then snatch it away at the end.
retarded question but after the first rank of over mastery, do you have to choose 1 specific style to spec into to get the rank 2 and 3 bonuses or will you eventually be able to have every rank 2 and 3 bonus just like rank 1?
Has anyone gotten the Rolan summon yet?
This game keeps mentioning a "perfect reload" on Eustace what the fuck is a perfect reload?
Vas Chads how does his "parry" work, his charge attack is supposed to guard when you release it or something but I can never get it to work?
I wish Terminus weapons couldn't be transcended at all periodfuck Terminus
>>573537191After the last shot, hit the reload button rather than just pressing the shoot button.
>>573537383Oh i see, damn this changes alot ive been playing him wrong the whole time
whats the best way to relearn this game? I cant remember all the random schizo mechanics (weapons, leveling, sigils, combat). Does it make sense to restart a new character and play a bit? I have a level 98 Rosetta before I quit (my next highest is lvl 80 yodarha). or can I just rawdog into the dlc?
>>573537756Rawdog it
>>573537086I don't disagree at all, it's just, picture this, you fuck around on the net and you find this one article about an expansion pack coming for a game, and it feature this character.You've never heard about the serie, or never been particulary interested, but here's a game from the IP that isn't a gacha and it has all these characters, it's not out of the world to think someone out there seeing fraux thinking "oh, she's pretty hot!", and then he goes into the general of the original game to learn more and he find... Whatever is currently going on over there. I can't blame them for just figuring "nah fuck this I guess I'll see for myself"
just a warning bros, you'll want to optimize your shit before entering any of the defy infinity queststhis shit is clearly tuned around you being minmaxed for endgame
I've been staring at the character screen for 2 fucking days totally stunlocked. I legitimately have no fucking idea who I should main now that I have reached endgame. I'm so torn between playing something easy, something actually good, and something that is wildly overplayed.Right now I'm leaning toward Eugun. Maybe Lancelot? I love the look of Lancelot but I might not want to play a speedy mashy character that is on crack. I also love the look of Percival and played him in Versus, but I worry that he is overplayed. I just want to main something that people find interesting.
new to the game, how is cag a support character aside from phantasmagoria/healing?can i build her for damage too?
>>573535698
>>573540009Don't really take the descriptors as any indications, at one point in the game pretty much everyone is expected to handle themselves, and Cag can definitely be very strong.
>>573539489>playing a character for their gameplay and not their looks/personalitysoulless
>>573539489I rarely if ever see any Percival so I'd say, go for it.
>Gallanza - Maglielle boss fight still filter the fuck out of most people
>>573539489>I also love the look of Percival and played him in Versus, but I worry that he is overplayedI haven't seen a single percival since the dlc dropped, he was already a pretty rare character before the dlc
>>573540993a classic
>>573537756if you were 98 that means you probably didnt really finish all of base game, starting a new character is probably fine. this game's simple enough to easily pick back up
>Have like 6 different source of dmg cap sigils>I still a fucking gorillions on the dummyJust how much fucking dmg cap do I need, god damn
Spamming bullseye blast is getting kinda tiring bros...
Game is fun but man it feels exhausting trying to catch up a team to play through all of this new DLC stuff.Just got 28k power and I barely feel like i've done anything.I wanna swap out AI characters but I really dont wanna have to redo all the low level Conflux again to get their weapons even slightly upgraded.
Any tips on how to reach 25k ATK with Tweyen using a transcended Defender weapon?
>>573543491Just slot in more damage?Also, drop your 45k hp cap sigil
>>573543491Where is your Fatebreaker? Your Celestial Lumen? Your Spartan Echo? It isn't going to show up in the ATK numbers but they will boost you hard in-game.
>>573543809It's not like that's going to be a huge difference in reaching 25k. Tiranny is already maxed.>>573544157What should go to slot in Fatebreaker?
>Siero fucking me over the simplest synthesis 10+ times in a rowI bet she enjoyed it too
>>573544298NVM, had a Fatebreaker + DMG Cap so I replaced one of the DMG Caps in the screen that also had Quick Cooldown and now Supp DMG is procing
>>573544298Anon, you stupid niggerWhy are you running tyranny if you're using defender weapons? You want to healthmaxx if you're running defender to cap out Ecru
>>573544534You're right I'm stupid. I'm removing the DMG Cap + Tyranny sigil I had and looking for a good placement.This is how it's looking so far.
So is save scumming still a thing?Combinding the sigils seems great until I end up bricking two decent ones into total trash.
>>573544775Slot in celestial lumen and concentrated fire maybe? If you're capping your hits on the dummy you can just slot in whatever you want at this point. Greater aegis/nimble onslaught/improved dodge/guts/revive etc etc
>>573545070Yep, you can still savescum it and then do a mission to re-roll the seed entirely to do it all over again. Thank god for that, imagine if we couldn't do that and everything was genuinely just RNG forever.
anyone willing to gift me the dlcs, i also want to play with the cool kids
So with curios people just save, open boxes, and if its no good they just load and try again?
Is it me or is the ice dog absolute cancer on chaos?
When I see other characters dropping gates of babylon and double teaming with their stands and sniping from anywhere on the map I'm starting to wonder if I'm just gimping myself staying with Captain. I rolled a sigil with 2 of Tweyen's character traits so maybe I should take that as a sign?
>>573544534NTA but I kinda have to use tyranny because it's probably the best source of attack for the low low only applies once if you have multiple copies price of 20% HP, which doesn't really feel like a negative when you still manage to reach 140k handily enough.
>>573546321Song hits caps easy so you can drop tyranny
>>573545170>>573544534>>573544157>>573543809Ok anon, how does this look now?
>>573547187Sick
>>573488464You can solo but usually you're expected to have a full party of NPCs for real endgame content. Until then yeah you can just throw all your resources onto one character and do solo quests, but the main story will force your ass to use them.
>>573493245Are you using your resonance points at the end/beginning of each run? You get points at the end of a run for another fucking sphere grid specific to that mode, which does help boost your team quite a bit if you forgot it.
>>573546241me on the left
>>573546771I'm using frauxIf you got any build suggestions lemme know I wanna maximize her damage since I might have gone overboard with her cap using two alphas and gammas.
Are you guys FAT with your FAT HP, are you using a lot of H P to become FAT, you FAT FUCK?
why do every sigils need gallanza's shit to upgrade I'm gonna have an aneurysm if I have to fight the fucker one more time
Can anyone give me a literal retardproof early-DLC build I can set up on a new character to start actually playing the new content?I'm just trying to use a new character and nothing I do works. I forged them a weapon and transcended it twice, got them some new mastery traits, threw on some decent sigils I had laying around (including new fatebreaker) and I still do literally no damage relative to my bot teammates that I haven't touched since base game
>>573549376full assist mode is the BIS build.
>>573549376You need more damage cap from the weapon bonuses and Celestian sigils, I recommend terra or lumen. I'm using lumen now. For something easy, just use the starter weapon that focuses on you having a big HP pool. Higher HP = more ATK bonus and damage cap. The crit weapon gets about 10% more but it's easier to stack HP than to build for over 100% crit chance, plus remember you can use the passive bonuses of just equipping summons too to help out.
>>573550005The HP one says it needs upwards of 135k to get the dmg cap up but even if I put all my HP stuff I end up with like 55k HP am I just retarded or missing something?At least the crit one I can hit the 100% but idk I feel very squishy either way
>>573550570You are definitely missing something if you're pooling all your ressources and still only hit 55K, check your masteries'n'shit, and make sure you don't have a summon equipped that guts your health, I had a friends who was getting his shit rocked until ti dawned on us that one of his summon had glass cannon.
>Maniac Maggy down to 20%>Critical gauge at 50%>think this is the run>Symphony Superior>Io dies to the rotating blades>revives>then dies to Caduceus>rush to revive her before critical gauge runs out>dies to mjolnirI-don't know how I'm going to make it to Ragnarok..but wait for me senpais...
>>573549229Just farm conflux 5.You get mastery/money/mats for random characters and enough azurite shards to fully uncap a sigil every run.
Is there a way to reduce the fucking particles? I can't see shit half the time.
>>573550850I can't see anything on the summons that should be causing it. But yeah with 6 sigil skill slots dedicated to leveling the HP, Aegis, and Greater Aegis skills it leaves me with 62333 HP
>>573551019I FUCKING FORGOT ABOUT AZURITES AND HAVE BEEN NEEDLESSLY FARMING OOOOOUGIMAN FOR HOURS GIVE UPPUUUUUU
>>573551213anon...at least you'll never run out.you weren't uncappong them one level at time were you?
>>573551307
>get 3500 MSP per chaos stage>every mastery trait level (so far, it will probably go up) costs 3000 MSPPLEASE tell me there is a slimepede equivalent that gives truckloads of mastery and ambrosia this shit will be aids to grind
>>573551212Drop tyranny + check your master traits, Rackam has 2 nodes that give 15000hp eachAlso check your summs and make sure you don't have tyranny/celestial terra on any of them
>>573548447I personally skip the greek sigils. Losing out on qol traits like firm stance and improved dodge is just not worth it.
>>573551148they added a visiblity setting with this update
hello fraux needs to take off her jacket much love thank you
>final transcendence gives a tiny 30% skill cap upel oh el
>>573551706good news there's another slimepedebad news it's mandatory lategame, 3000 MSP is fucking nothing
>>573551958I kinda like seeing power plant deal 6-8m desu.
How are you guys getting over 250k HP? Even after leveling my Defender a few times I only hit 150k, and that's while running Greater Aegis as a sigil too.
How do I unlock the next conflux? I've finished conflux 3 several times already.
HP builds are a joke, Bubz does like 300-400k damage per hit
>>573553198progress through the story lol
Did Siete/Song with randoms, I was sweating
>>573553168Mastery traits give 45k flat
>>573553168what master level are you?>>573553223what's your defense?
>>573553548I had Stout Heart and Damage Cut up so 40% damage reduction and he still punched through
>>57355354830.
>>573553727which bubz was it, then?was it conflux, chaos++, or infinite?>>573553807you'll get more HP soon, but if you're struggling then remember to check your summons for defensive traits and put on a new wrightstone
>>573511052Yeah is it bugged? Or is it supposed to be random with a very low chance?Because I've been playing for hours now and have only gotten two so far. The rest I got Knickknack Vouchers like usual.
Siero keeps fucking me in the ass.
Think I should use the summons to fill stuff like Autorevive and guts or should I get those on my character's Sigils?Summons cover your entire party even in co-op right? So that means my team wouldnt need to have any Autorevive or Guts sigils at all in that case.
>>573545430Get a job
>>573522245>The summons are way stronger than I thought they'd beDemo gave us the wrong impression.Thought they would do sissy damage like Furycane in the demo, but now I use the damage ones in Conflux to skip +20% of the final boss health.
>>573553932I don't really need the HP. I'm just curious about the discrepancy. Even another full Aegis wouldn't make up the difference.
>>573554102there's an element on the UI where you can see exp to the next level and it will show either the transmarvel voucher or the normal knicknack vouchers so there's some kind of pattern or reason to it, I just don't know what it is
>>573554532Thought I would play without savescumming if they're going to give Transmarvels for free but apparently not. I need my Gallanza Warpath+...
What do I put on Eustace
>>573537243>his charge attack is supposed to guard when you release itThat is correct. Parry window is tight. Try it on the dummy until you figure it out.
muh digits
Just to make sure I understand, I'm not equipping each of these traits one at a time, I'm benefiting from all of them as long as I've invested in them right?
>>573555159Oh boy another Tweyen that is going to die so many times they single handedly cause us to fail the mission when nobody else dies.
>>573555190Jita!
>>573555190You can equip all three rank 1 masteries at once. You dont make a choice until rank 2 because you need 6 points to activate and get 10 total.
Can anyone reminds me what's the best way to farm vouchers?I need buttloads of sigils.
>>573555069I got it by basically picturing charge release as pressing the dodge button. It's pretty close to timing a perfect dodge. Feels really good when you hit it.
>>573555694feed all your items that reach cap
Are there more conflux floors after 5 or did they give you that big skill tree and make it completely pointless?
How does one build Vane up to Conflux Lvl 4 where at most you can transcend your weapon at lvl 3?
does fediel doing a raw heavy attack to drop in a hole in place actually have a purpose?
>>573555069does that also work with Gran's charge release? I swear I managed to pull it off once.
>>573555481gonna BEAT YA
I can already think of two big reasons I like this character
for savescumming do you just alt+f4 if you don't like your results or do you just quit to menu?does it autosave at certain points and brick you if you're not careful?
>>573556741Yeah, she has a decent pair of tits but she's really fucking fun in Ragnarok.
The Primal Burst video and ONLY that is really fucking laggy for some reason. So much so it audio desyncs hard and if the quest is finished with it my screen bugs and I have to alt f4. How can I fix this...
Do you still get some mats if you fail a conflux floor?
How many times do ai have to jump in Conflux to get more quest in the Chaos tiers?
so where tf are these guys anyway?
>>573556934Just quit to menu
>>573556934you can turn off auto save and save manually. Just make a roll, if you don't like it, go to title screen, reload, do a quest, then roll again.
>>573555420Not me anon, I can handle myself decently for vidya like this. I can do blue man without getting any hits. I get what you meant though, pubs are horrible.
>>573533579>the game bombards you with Fortitude CrystalsEvery weapon takes hundreds to finish transcending thoughWhat's the new fastest shit to farm its turning into my bottleneck
Goodbye terminus, I am HPmaxxing now.
>>573557796Mystery niggas
>>573556647BEAT MY COCK HARDER DJEETA
>>573558039Are the IoGODS back in full force?
>>573557029I don't know how to use her yet, she seems really awkward.When I'm in link time and can spam skill>finisher>skill>finisher on loop its pretty nice. But outside of that idk what to do when her skills aren't up. Her basic combos feel terrible to use, really long animations and are so easy to get interrupted or forced to dodge out of.Whenever I get her full clock gauge I haven't been able to use it effectively because the boss coincidentally is always ready to rip bloodthirst when I pop it and waste half my gaugeI'm guessing she'll make more sense once I fill out her mastery traits and/or get a proper build going and just generally get more experience on her.
I CAN'T DAMAGE THE LIGHT DRAGONHE DOESN'T STOP FUCKING ATTACKING AND HITTING ME THROUGH DODGES BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON I CAN ONLY DODGE ONE ATTACK AT A TIMEWHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA?
>>573558282Yes and landing a fully charged flowery seven still feels amazing.
I'm curious about the game but I wanna know what its actual endgame loop is like since Its what youre paying 80 dollars for
God I hate the slow boner
>>573558658Do you have to spend 80 dollars? I heard you can DLC unlock the game relatively easy
I am currently sitting on 4 crew cardsWhomst
>>573558814Smugman
>>573558814Beato
>>573558658Monster Hunter with more number autism.
>>573558658Imagine Monster Hunter world but in order to increase your damage cap you have to craft every weapon and random decos make up the bulk of your damageIt's a lot like frontier actually where 10 million progression steps are added so you'd be encourage to play with others
Should I bother to awaken an ascension weapon for weapon transcendence, or can I only do weapon transcendence on the regular weapons for now?
>Max HP stratsgranblue only knows TWO tricks
yup kino
Why does Tyranny give me like +7000 more ATK than Life On The Line even though both traits are +% ATK?
>>573559729Now the real game begins
Anyone want to do some missions? I am a newbie.
>take off tyranny sigils>hp now over 300k>400k if I slap on another aegis sigil
Is drain still cucked with a 500 per hit limit?
>>573560112>no damageYep, that's when I leave instantly because some dumbfuck thinks it's wise to bring an HP-maxxing build to Infinity (DPS-check bosses and only a ~10-minute time limit).
>>573560006its bed time and hope theres somebody smart i can copy for builds when i wake up
>>573560118Nope
>>573560540Nice.
what's the gameplay of this like, is it something like MH+FFXIV+Xenoblade?
>>573560391you know stamina and celestial stamina and other dmg buffs reliant on hp dont show up in the bar right anon?
>>573560783RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
>>573560391>no damageDealing 197% based on test dummy usage. Except for power plant which is only doing about 55% and still hitting about 8m.
>>573522287>lucilius sigilsplz help
Being a new player sucks...
>>573559813tyranny is multiplicative with most other sigils
>>573522287>>573560993They're already + from the getgo so you can't get them with anything other than alpha/beta/yourmama and damage cap. That might be different for the chaos luci fight if it has new sigils.
How do you get the Relink (not expansion) codes for the gacha?
Who are the best AI chars? Is it still no-skill Zeta + Eugen or are some of the new chars better?
Your profiles will be checked, and if you do not have meta builds you will be kicked from the crew and blacklisted
Does anyone here play Id? Does versalis heart prevent the dragonform from instantly ending?
>>573561147Is there any way to tell from the sigils themselves because they both just say +% Atk
You should be unable to queue for Chaos+ with a terminus weapon equipped.
Did they nerf the Guts and autorevive so you can only trigger it at most 3 times now?Not even sure should I remove guts at this point since I die a lot
>>573561602I WILL grief your lobby and you WILL revive me, clean it up!
does terminus have ascendance?
>>573561510it will if you don't have the faith in godmight mastery trait 2
>>573529445i know im kinda late on this, but i think the idea behind bea's kit is that she needs less survival utility because it's built in and we aren't limited by the terminus 45k hp anymore. So now, things like potion hoarder aren't as important, leaving a spot open for more dmg cap.
>>573561165versalis heart from sierokarte is just that one and i wanted it with something else so I can use the godmight masteryUnless what i'm thinking aren't lucilius sigils but new sigils that came in with lucilius patch (the warpath sigils)
>>573561745You are better off just using the slots for Aegis and Greater Aegis. Guts and Revive got nerfed and they are also less important because you aren't getting one shot by everything.
>>573561602>get hit>health bar barrly moves>see critical HP ally>pop blue pot to help>it fully heals themLate chaos+, by the way
>>573561304Anyone?
online fix doko?
>>573561465There is a crew? Can I join?
Alright bros, I think I need a new main. I feel like ER Siegfried wasn't given enough playtesting>Insight and Essence trees are effectively the same thing (spam perfect execution to build stacks) and have little variation, with the only difference being whether you spam perfect execution or weave skills more often as a reward>Both of the above have the same major issues (takes forever to build stacks, lose all of the stacks if you get downed or fuck up your combo once, whether it's a skill issue fuckup or getting screwed by a cutscene or the game randomly deciding that a Lunge or a dodge roll was meant to be a combo instead of a dodge offset, despite the perfect combo continuing after this)>Neither of them feel that different from how you played him pre-DLC (Insight is neat enough, but it's a glorified link time), and the damage doesn't feel worth the effort>Crux is fun, but it gets gigacucked by lategame because generating stacks at a reasonable rate is gated behind Substitute>All three trees are reliant on doing X thing to build up an obscene amount of stacks for a buff that gets stronger with every stackI have only seen a few other Siegs, and they always drop the entire buff at least a few times during the fight.The annoying thing is that all of his master style problems would be fixed with relatively minor changes>Insight and Essence would both be made significantly less annoying if you only lost 1 stack when not doing a perfect combo, or if Sieg's combo structure was adjusted to not take a year to go through one full loop or if they gave Perfect Execution i-frames so that you can fully commit to getting a stack instead of needing to dodge and cancel it, which only makes stacking take even longer>Alternatively, make Insight and Essence not need as many stacks (7 is absurd)>make Crux allow you to get Daybreak stacks by successfully parrying with the parry skill that randomly gets boosted at rank 1 and with various Rank 1/2 boost nodes
>>573558454if you simply p.dodge you will have like 3s of invuln
Id should have Oedipused his way right in.
>>573561994But what about the buff from Terminus?The damage cap from below 45k HP no longer needed?
>>573563591It's below 200k HP now with max transcended terminus
>>573563641>max>on a max TerminusI still got long way to go I guessThanks
>>573563641How much higher is the bonus compared to the HP stacking one?
>>573563780Transcended Terminus is +500% damage cap
>>573563860welp, guess the endgame is back to instant death from a fart
>check online lobbies>test the region settings>shows different lobbies every time I change it>mfw I realize the matchmaking only matches you with people who have the same region setting instead of matching you with anyone regardless of what it's set tosasuga Cygames
>>573563936Since all the weapon types have some damage cap gimmick now the difference isn't as extreme if you'd rather play comfyBut yeah
Are berserker and spartan echo completely independant from the basic supp chance and each other? The practice damage hints it's true.
>my ML20 Io can keep up with ML30sMy wife is so strong..
>>573564073Yeah the game just combines the numbers if they proc at the same time.
>loadouts save everything except summonsMotherfucker
>super nova on ascension weaponsI am now tempted to move from defender gigachad meta...>Unconditional attack up and cap up >only 10% less attack than eru but 90% more cap up>better options for skills meaning I could in theory drop a supp sigil for something else
>>573563936Anon, that winds up being less than 20% ahead of other weapons with all the other sources of damage cap they slam you with.
playing this game on the steam controller is nice but nothing can really replace that nature smoothness with mouse aiming even when you use gyro
>>573564927>20%more like 8% being generous
are there any legit reviews of the expansion anywhere? all the ones on youtube are sponsored slop or journos that played like 5 hoursi enjoyed the base game but i did buy it at a ridiculous discount
>>573564073they stack, but they stack additively, so not 'completely' independent
>>573566769if the price is a concern, just pirate it and pay later if you enjoyed it
>>573566769>i enjoyed the base gameDid you wish there was a bunch more of it?Well, now there is.
>>573567407hard to say. my last instances of playing it were just me fighting shit i've already beaten a bunch and anoying thoughtlessly put together multi boss battles
>>573567995the content bump is pretty substantial, but you might be put off by the "tutorial" of the dlc being a bunch of redux versions of existing bosses with new attack patterns and whistles. Aside from that it's quite enjoyable and even appreciated in terms of content difficulty being meant to challenge previous endgame-built players.If you were a grind slave for the base game, you're in for a long haul since there's so much more investment in character building now
>>573568379>the "tutorial" of the dlc being a bunch of redux versions of existing bosses with new attack patterns and whistlesThere are a grand total of 4 new bosses in the game
>>573551213
>>573551307my friend was uncapping some up to 12 or 14 then when he doesn't have the mats, he uses the azurite lamo
>>573568752>Siete>Song>Big Crab>Big Fish>Dio Brando>Bubs>HexaWasn't it like 7? Did i miss any?
>there are people queueing into infinity quests with less than 99k hp
>>573571081Oh yeah I forgot about Siete and Song.>Big FishI wouldn't even call it a boss to be honest
Did they do something to the transmarvel savescumming trick? After doing a 36 execution attempt, I found something I wanted at the 13th result. However when I reloaded the game to just have just 13 executions, the results were completely different.
What's the best way to farm transmarvels now?
>>573572747just farm sigils and recycle the shit ones?I wonder if any of the conflux bundles are really good if you just recycle those, in case you don't wanna farm anything else(which sounds unlikely).
Is there a site somewhere where i can check the popularity of characters?I'm a disgusting meta/popularity contrarian and prefer to play characters that are hard or no one else does.I wanted to play Eugen or Rockam because I played HBG in mh but apparently the best way to play the former is spamming nades which is gay and the latter doesn't even get to aim which is gayer :(
>>573574243Just pick Ghanda like a normal person would.
>>573574243Play captain if you want to be a deadweight so much
>they basically doubled Charlotta's DPS>but she's boring as fuck nowtime to play magliellecontrolling the combo finishers is hard lol camera goes schizo
>>573574551>nowcharlotta has been a yellow finisher spammer since patch 1.2 of the base game when she got her warpath
>fraux has a really fun combo system>she's all about spamming skills instead
>>573574551I really don't like Mag's XXXY. Though i realize it is mostly because it is doing a very hard stop for half a second when you try to do too hard of an 180.
>>573574945yeah but spin > dumb dive
>the solution to the damage cap problem is adding even more damage caps to everything
>tfw failed an infinity quest because nobody else continued the primal burst
last time I played was two years ago any place I can check what the latest 'builds' are? and I can use any weapon now?not really concerned about the meta at all just don't wanna be a deadweight for trying to be a little quirky
>Cog gets 50% damage cap on her buffThey really want you to only use him as your support NPC.
>>573576627>builds?bro it's been like a daya lot of builds are irrelevant now because of the mastery levels changing a bunch of shitif you got to proto bahamut then just use whatever you had then>any weapon?somewhatthe old basegame tier list was basic weapons <<< ascension <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< terminusthe new ER tier list is looking to be transcended weapons <<< transcended ascension < transcended terminusterm is still the best for damage but it's nowhere near as big of a gap as it was before
>>573576996his healing skill shields for 100k too now, very nice, saved my ass in conflux
>the AI is still filtered by slimesgod FUCKING damn it
>>573577064alright thanks, I'll just have to play the freaking game I GUESS
>cag heal>30k>danchou heal>1.7kyikes
>>573577917aren't people just potting anyway
Good support AIs to build?
>>573578087siegfried for a damage dealercag for support
>>573578007>aren't people just potting anywayonly for nowit will be a different story when most people reach post-game contents
>>573578258Other than the Infinity Quests you can pot through all of the Post-Game Chaos++ Quests
zeta can't keep up anymore, how good is mag AI
>>573578258>4 mega pots to heal from 1 to maxOof
>>573574243why would you want to aim on a hack and slash game anyway? also if you want to play a hard and unpopular character just play Io.
>hard>unpopular>io
Playing Io should be a bannable offense. They're literally standing far away from the boss, just DPS leeching, and they always miss every link chance.
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DODGE BUBS' RED ORBS
>>573542748This. Just give us online coop conflux by Stage 4, holy shit I don't want to build the AI when they're so fucking stupid anyway and go down non-stop and can't play the more complex characters remotely properly. Can't even trust them to fucking play Rackam properly without fucking blowing themselves up.
>got excited for Maggie, hoping for actually cool floating sword stuff like pic related or at least stuff like what Luci was doing since obviously stuff like what she was doing in her own boss fight simply was not possible>get a lame 'death by a thousand cuts' wimp that is basically made to support and be a sub-DPS at most with half her kit tied up in support shit and only doing burst DPS via Mjolnir and Gae BulgHoly fuck I am absolutely fucking PISSED.
>>573582760same here i was so hyped, tried her and i were FURIOUS, tried gallanza and he's fucking zeta but easier so im thinking about going back to Id or trying out creare infinio build for seofon. Why there's no fucking wuxia master flying shit sword
>>573564303>joins your lobby as song and only get debuffs off while floor tanking>get mvp honorsHeh... Nothing personal chumps.
Does anyone know if Fraux's 20% gauge gain sigil is actually worth using? I dont like her delayed attacks and just want to mash but I cant tell if that is a substantial loss in gauge gain cause I cant tell if I'm playing her right yet.
>>573574551>>573576147NTA but even the spin was boring. The fun thing about Charlotta was basically styling by never getting hit due to her plethora of Invulnerability options and just relentlessly chasing the boss around the arena while everyone else is on the floor bleeding and having to watch you shrug off everything the boss did while they were getting slapped like beaten housewives. Spamming spin made it harder to time your Y-button parries cause half the time you'd get caught mid-spin or during your 1-2 normal slashes to reset the loop. So unless you're on a hard-DPS check there's no reason to do the finisher spam anyway. Sure you're doing less DPS but at this point who cares outside of hard-checks? At least you're not burdening the team by going down constantly trying to brute force things. Especially since the plunge finisher is objectively slower than the spin finisher, which means getting slapped mid animation by things more often.
So how strong are the new characters?
>>573583510Honestly I might just play Gallanza cause he slams and dunks everything and cause he's one of the few male characters in media I actually respect.
>all those network tests and the 1st online match is a laggy Tayuitar where we couldnt pickup the shitbots to throw at the fucker and had to eat aoes until the Rosetta left(she still got mvp somehow)nice crossplay
Narm is hard to play... I keep fucking up my fast charge slashes and doing slow ones instead, and canceling my rapid combo before I get my butterflies. And it's hard to chase the boss around while also maintaining dps and butterflies. I just gotta git gud.Gotta try Fraux later too.
>Conflux is meant to add tons of replayability to the game>it's strictly single player>game is just gonna die again once the new boss content runs outWhat the fuck was the plan here Cygames?
>>573583870yeah nah swapped to maglielle and not going backeither spamming spin or dive is boring as fuck, I was bearing it because it's fun to fly around super fast but knowing the dive is double DPS and the optimal way to play her makes me seethe
hmm need to improve this
>>573584805you can continue the free flutters after dodging, the OP stuff with naru is she can parry stuff while doing other stuff, like parry mid whatever attack and it won't cancel
>>573585073litteraly everyone can do this in ER
>>573585073Oh yeah, I always forget she parries if you release the charged attack at just the right moment. I need to start practicing that. Gonna be hard, I even lost all my ability to do perfect dodges in the two years since I've played.
>Been using terminus and keep dying 1 shot>Realize I should use transcend defender weapon after it reached about stage 3 or 4I'm such a bea...
What skills are people using for Fraux? I've got the def debuff, Indomitus, the hold fists and the parry, but sometimes I miss the gapcloser
>>573585568For me it was swapping to my +3 Transcended Crit Weapon. But I'm a Charlotta player with a billion invincibility options so I guess everyone else needs the 100k+ HP
>>573584925Are you at endgame already? Expansion must be short...
>>573585591power plant is your best nuke, hold fist is kinda mid, i guess it might be good for her 2nd path where you are invulnerable while using skills, but her 3rd path is the best dps-wise so idk
>>573584859Their only plan was adding homos
>>573585894Is critical 100% still the meta?I'm thinking of using HP Wrightstones on my defender instead of critical stone
>trying to do the post-luci prouds>every party wipes once and then leavesMan this is so annoying. Retry the fucking raid or I'm just gonna have to queue up with 3 people who dont know the raid again!!
>>573585591>Wasted on being a carpet muncherTragic...
>>573579435Only 4?
>another bubz party that wiped at 3%aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Repeating my question from last night, I feel like I'm still doing way too low damage with Vane at this point and I'm not good enough at understanding Sigils to know what I'm doing wrong
>>573587379>70% critfix that first
>>573587379it's probably your masteries
>>573586428Why would that aspect of the meta change? Landing a non-crit at all basically ruins your DPS in this game more than in others. Especially since so many characters have slower attack patterns.
>>573587379>70% crit>Berserker Echo with only 16k attack>30 stamina
>>573584925is that with using Y or only X
>>573584859Adding multiplayer won't make conflux that much more replayable because Relink's structure is absolutely not fit for a rougelike/lite.Besides, most rougelike/lite games are singleplayer anyway. I don't know a single decent one with coop except for risk of rain
>>573588527It'd still be better to make it multiplayer anyway cause we know damn well Japanese devs won't even remotely keep up with the speed in which people clear the standard static content.
>>573587479>>573587510These are my current masteries, it's been hard getting something better than that.>>573587893Berkerer Echo activates with Lumen and Fatebreaker on quests of the new difficulty.
>>573588087claw build, but it kinda sucks for actual gameplay5xOrb build is much comfier and shits out a lot more damage constantly and doesnt rely on the boss to stand still
>>573585354Even Vas with his long ass charges where he can't move?
>>573588779yes, you can block regardless of your character state if you tap it at the perfect moment, io can stand still and perfect parry in the middle of all her charges
>>573588721no, not overmastery, master traits
Something tells me this anon is getting 60-80% damage cap im training.
>>573588779yes anyone can tap block at anytime even when they're doing a 10 second long cutscene-like skill and they will perfect block an incoming move. there are scripts online that just auto perfect block anything that hits you
>>573589179Eh kinda. I guess I'll have to fuse a War Ele+ wotj Cri Rate or something.>>573587893What's wrong with Stamina?
>>573589452didn't see any of the war elems or echos in the sigil fusion menu
>>573589452>What's wrong with Stamina?We don't use damage traits anymore
>>573589563Something tells me I'm not the anon you're referring to>>573589592What's a good replacement?
>>573589689Supp damage.
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGAA
>>573589936Isn't that one guaranteed? It's the first I got anyway.
>>573589914does supp damage trigger drain?
Oh damn. Our general is back. Good to see you again, friends.
>>573590069Yes but there can only ever be 1 instance of supp damage on an attack, if you have spartan, berserk and supp damage they get added together if they trigger.
>>573590052aw shit i thought i got lucky
>>573590142Good to see you too, bros
bubz is easily the hardest of the four, holy hell
>>573589592same with tyranny?
>>573590516there's celestial ventus i think that raises dmg cap, weapons right now have so much damage that theres no fuckin reason to have dmg boosts.How i can get my missing 5 levels on damage cap? i have four lvl15 sigils
>>573588643If you want people to stick with your game, just add a bunch of dumb fun features and tie them to the main content, like a my island/my ship feature, collecting random crab drops from quest, grand hub with a bunch of mini games like monhun or GBVS, even a "friendslop" mode would probably work better than the rougelike one
>>573590876goodbye tyranny, stamina, combo booster then
>>5735908764x15 = 60You need one of the weapons with Sigil Boost or 5 damage cap on a summon if you're minmaxing
>>573561745Guts is actually buffed. For a few seconds after it triggers nothing can kill you. It's the same kind of "invincibility" you get after being revived.
>>573590937>my island/my ship featureSkip.>crab huntingI skipped that shit the first time, will skip it every other time too. No one fucking liked that.>grand hub with minigamesDepends on the minigames. Most suck.>friendslop modeWhat's the closest equivalent you would draw for this idea?
Does the Fatebreaker sigil work in Conflux?
>>573578087Zeta with one skill is the gold standard for AI dps
Fuck it, I guess I'm sticking to Tweyen. I dunno what to do with Vane to improve his damage.
>>573592345why is your attack so low, did you upgrade and transcend all your weapons?
>>573592428>why is your attack so lowBeats me, I tried to get the best Overmasteries I could.Still, Lumen, Fatebreaker, Berserker and Spartan all activate correctly at fatebreaker quests. Does training at Barrold count as a "fatebreaker quest" too?>did you upgrade and transcend all your weapons?Upgrade yes, at the point I am right now I can just transcend to lvl 3.Thing is, at this point with a similar Sigil build and also with all her weapons upgraded and transcended at the highest I can right now, Tweyen is doing like four times Vane's damage.
>>573592708>Overmasteriesyou keep saying overmasteries when anons keep asking about your regular masteries
>>573591896the stun is not even worth it
>>573592708can you show me your master traits? like this one
>>573592708you can change barrold to chaos in the training settings for it to work
anybody got a changelist for all the secret shit they changed with skills and damage caps? supposedly cag's pain train got nerfed and I'm wondering about her other skills and some other characters I play
>>573591126My crab hunting idea isn't like what it is in the game. I imagined that quests now have a chance to drop one of many auto-generated crabs that you can take into battle, drop them in a pond to see them interact, host dog fights with them, etc.Anyway...Forget about it. I just realized my ideas aren't that good and would work better in a game where it focuses on an OC/player self-insert character.
>>573593084oh shit there are four set of set bonuses? i thought two are max
wait I forgot in training mode in dmg cap value mode, do you want to see a bigger or somewhere near 100% again?
>>573593867Exactly or barely above 100 if you're trying to optimize
>>573593867You want it to be near 100%
>>573593867near 100% unless with supplementary damage, then depending on the source probably 200/300
>>573593867
>>573592887I mean of course I have them maxed by this point>>573593084No prob>>573593149Had no idea, that changes things a little but just a little.
>>573594110At 80% you'd need to increase your damage by 25% to reach 100%.
>>573594106>>573594060>>573594047>260%wtf man I literally removed all my atk boosters and only damage caps/dealt
>>573594363Transcended weapon takes care of all the damage, so you spend all your sigils on Supplemental and Damage caps.
>>573594178oh i guess you're still at the start of the dlc. you'll get more later
>>573594106Supp still lists as a separate number.
All the new characters are great, and they tweaked a bunch of the old ones so there’s even more great ones, and I can’t make up my mind and want to play them all I have no time and must wage slave aaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee
>>573591124Yeah but if I constantly die for every few minutes then that's not really a buff isn't itI guess you can call it rebalanceMeanwhile autorevive is definitely a nerf
>>573594895yeah what i've meant is 100% on main hit and 200/300% depending on hjow many supplementar hit sources
>>573595181If the fights are over before Autorevive would come off cooldown 3 times its not that different besides getting you up at full HP now
>>573594363Some moves have really low capsYou kinda need to stack summons with Normal DMG Cap or Skill DMG Cap as their second effects to make the most of the insane attack the transcended weapons give
>>573564303How does one play Io in fights where the boss just fucking runs around the whole time?Every time I miss Flowery Seven I want to off myself.
>>573595003Yeah, I wanna try other characters, but I'm also trying to keep things in line so I'm not far past people I play with.
>lyrics song in slimes missionkino
>>573597260nyice
>>573597260what even is a practical use for a +2 trait, I don't even know if a +1 is worth it
>>573597657If you’re stacking multiple of one sigil effect it does add up.
>>573468292So with the new weapon upgrade tier the ascension/terminus weapons are outclassed, right? Or am I being tricked by the gearscore?
>>573597657It is free levels for the shit that goes past 15 but you might not normally take 2 sigils for itBut a lot of the good new shit is capped at 15 >>573598468The ascended weapons are all outright better than a non-ascended Terminus
where the fuck is zoi
>Need quick charge>Try to synthesis some so I'm not stuck with useless shit>Siero said "nuh">Suddenly the game refuse to drop any of them even though I used to drown by the fucking boat loadsI see how it is
>>573597260I've been running Shield Tank/SSBA Maglielle and she's pretty fun.
Does Quick Charge work with Gallanza's spin attack?
>>573597657a lot of summons have 13-14 sigils on themthis maxes them out
Id plays so good now that he can reliably get into Godmight. Haven't tried the Dragonform and Fourtold Vengeance trees.
>>573599017I ate her.
>>573600065okay this one, somehow I forgot about summon sigils and only cared about their passives
>>573600431nyo...
Do we have a rough tier list of the new characters based on first impressions?I want to start building one of them but also not feel halfway that I wasted resources and time.
wait that awakening lvl 7 unlock anything passive? if not I don't wanna waste mats
>>573468813I can buy you
KIRAMEKEGALEBURST
So who feels like weakest DLC character?
christ almighty Heliotrope godmight Id FUCKS, i guess i probably could go crit ascend and FUCK even more with the amount of drain he gets
>>573601340just play a couple runs through the conflux shit with them. the first 3 cycles are not too high power requirement.And they shit out materials so you can quickly get them to like 20k+ power that way.
Finally off work on a friday, its time to game.............
>>573602931I like going unga and Beatrix seems fun, I'm already spending all my resourcers with Tweyen's Master Traits but Beatrix seems like a close second main
>>573601908unironically magPotato lost
What’s the best weapon for Siete?
>>573601908Fediel in terms of gameplay. You just either mash claw or go straight into five orbs finisher.
Those nodes affected by burn or poison give bonuses whenever you or the enemy is affected by that status?
>>573604296The +100% damage cap ones are when you have a statusDarkflame is relevant for a couple of late bosses I guess but I still wouldn't bother
i know this is something retarded im missing, but why is my crit not overcapping beyond 104%? why is it maxed at 45? im using the tranny stinger weapon which is at lvl 2.
what are we waiting for
>>573606004Skills don't work like that
>>573606228they do on my AI. the more crit i put on, the more it overcaps beyond 115%
>>573606004why do you have 40 extra levels in the crit rate sigilalso check your summon traits and your mastery traits if you're low on crit
>>573606815NTA but do summon traits work as passives active all the time or just when the summon is in play?
>>573606815yea im retarded nvm
where the fuck do i farm silver centrum?
>>573607036all the timeeasy way to test it is to slap something like an auto res summon on
>>573607645Conflux for a ton at once Otherwise spam quests where it's a reward
guys I made it
https://x.com/ArewGNSN/status/2075542092311675343
Best AI partners and their builds?
>>573608436eugen, siegfried, and rosettarosetta is possibly the best dps too if you can play her
>>573607036Works on your whole partyI'm not sure how it behaves in multiplayer though
>>573608527Oh, similar to my current party.My main is Tweyen but my AIs are Percival, Rosetta and Siegfried going full support. I basically followed this post to build them.
>>573608718full support is assthe only support sigil they need is improved dodge to not die
>>573609120I barely can fully equip and max my main, can't expect me to dedicate the same amount of time and attention to potentially 6 more characters.
>>573609330Where are you at in the game? You'll get tons of stuff thrown at you sooner than later
some of the old sigils like quick charge are hard to get now..
>>573609453I just got to the Gallanza Sublime fight. I'm at Master Trait 10.
How do I hide damage numbers in this game?
>>573610129need a mod for that, no idea when stuff will be updated though
>>573608527what's even new with rosetta, remembered that she was terribad
>>573610218new masteries buffed her a lot
>>573610443I mean sure but what about her AI movement, rose placement etc
>>573610573it's better
>>573610443Which perk is the best one? Essence or Crux?
>>573608435this isnt some unintended bug is it? i havent unlocked fedi yet and i dont want cygames pulling a no fun allowed like pre-ER ferry
>>573610761It's just a basic dodge cancel
guys should i buy a controller to play this on pc or just use m&kb ?
>>573610736crux
heard zeta as an AI turned doodoo, but just have to invest in her masteries to just get her back
Anyone here gotten to infinity yet? How are your clears going bros?
Any bros from the vg general back when the game released here? How's the expansion so far? I wanted to play with Brostace but might just stick with Vaseraga still, we'll see.
love mashing Y
I'm catching up and these double dragon fights in Proud are some of the most cancerous shit I've ever seen in an action game.
>>573612369Equip Firm Stance for the one with the wind dragon if you're having trouble. Makes it way less gay.
>>573612369Wait until the chaos versions
Is it supposed to be slow as fuck to charge up Beatrix's clock meter?
Chaos++ Lucilius5X6D HNEM KKLY 72QQ
Is it normal that your damage is way capped in Chaos+? I'm sitting at 300% skill damage and 180% normal attack damage on my Sandy. Am I just missing something or is this it? Using a level 2 transcended Stinger weapon with 167% crit rate. Even got shit on like Celestial Terra and Lumen. Damage Cap trait is maxed out.
>>573613068I'm sure someone will fall for this
>>573613035You want all the cap ups you can
Forgot image for >>573613035>>573613393Not sure what else I would be missing? I can maybe slot in Gamma x2 instead of the Tyranny but that's about it, no?
>>573613584>TyrannyThere's no reason to use attack skills if you're way over the cap
>>573613472That's a 60 second score trial. The other pic you posted was from normal training mode. I can also whack the barrel until I hit 5 billion damage
>>573613584I think I'm actually retarded... This time with an image.
>>573613584I have 2 alpha and gammas with cap ups out the assI am STILL dealing 150-200% damage
>>573613789Like other anon said Tyranny is normal attack modifier and doesn't give you cap.Use supplemental damage is you're out of dmg cap options.
>>573613980how much cap up do you have on your summons
Celestial incend and terra seem pretty meh.Incend is +50% and only vs overdrive,Terra is 70% but costs you a shit ton of max HP.I can just put in a white sigil like stunpower/HP/ATK and get 40% DMG cap without the downsides, just costs 2 mastery points that I don't really need anyway
>>573613980My Eugen is still doing like 240% on Detonator with +120% extra damage cap from summon effectsI just went with Berserk/Spartan echo cause until I get the >75% HP Celestial sigil in a decent combo the supplemental damage is more useful
>>573613789Get rid of Tyranny, ATK and Crit. Slot in Supp DMG+, preferably at least 2
you faggots should i buy a controller or does this fucking shit play well on m&kb ?
>>57361419545% for skill and normal attack.
>>573614313You better clean up your language dude
>>573614313we only use the Wii steering wheel here
>>573614197>Incend is +50% and only vs overdrive,There are perma-overdrived fights. I have it on a summon though so its not taking up sigil space>>573614313Why the fuck are you playing action games on M+KB
>>573614313I don't think anyone here has played the game on KB+M
Are you guys focusing on your main? How often do you touch your AIs builds?
>>573614405I'm using tilt controls!
>>573614570I've kept their weapons caught up but I'm stopping their mastery levels at 26 until I get whoever I'm actually playing at that point completely maxed.
>>573614416>>573614482thanks goys ill get a controller :)
>>573614293Wouldn't dropping the crit drop my damage cap for DMG Cap Cobalt though?
>>573615016Oh yeah you're right
i did it bwos, i beat the dlc
>>573614416>There are perma-overdrived fights.only the red golem
>>573615415New Tayutar too
>>573614570I'm focusing on my main, but since it's too fucking hot to do long sessions right now I'm gonna farm some materials a bit later for my AI party members so they can at least get the mastery collection bonuses, and maybe start building them up for the defender weapons or something. I have to continue the story but I need to beef them up if I want them to survive the conflux.
I knew it would happen but >having to fight Furycane and V*lkan B*lla again
>>573616191Fighting the dog again sucked >Endlessly spawning adds that everyone ignores
>>573616191Vulcan Ballsack was funny with Magielle he can't do shit
Damage Cap Summer
>>573616692>tfw no Galleon meme form meme fight>tfw no Gutsy Vee-kun meme fight
>>573612179I miss when I could mash Y and deal crazy damage, now I can't even break 250mil with Sandalphon
>>573615273is that after all the post hexa quests?
>Finally unlocked Infinity and ML 50Alright, where do we farm Mastery points again?
>>573617464it's from the very last quest in the game which doesn't even unlock until after you clear four other quests involving a gigabuffed versa, luci, bub, and za warudothe time limit on these quests is pretty damn tight, though it's not like everyone is optimized atm
Anyone got a super good borrow ? Would love a cracked CPU ally
>>573617718Did you do it solo or multiplayer?
>>573618465multiplayer because it's fun, but i might eventually solo it once I bother to sit down and grind all of the mastery points and materials my npcs would need
>>573535721What?You need 2 million MSP?
Today i learned the summons traits/skills are actually random
>>573619479The first clear rewards from quests are fixed but on drops it's random
>>573619398Anon is dyslexic, it's 200k
>>573619540where's the best place to farm summons?
>>573619629I think specific ones drop from certain fights and the traits available seem to depend on the summon So you'd have to fight whatever drops what you're looking for a lot probably, I'll wait for some nerd to datamine it or something before I worry too much about that.
y'all got any of them damage cap ups???
>they removed vaseraga's dash dodge techIt's so unironically over...
Beatrix broken or just me?
>enemies actually have harder version of basically every move and harder AI>yfw Proto Bahamut starting with SupernovaMH mogged
Hows my build for Cog/Main?
When does the "auto save" occur in this game? do i need to turn it off for save scumming?
>>573621312it's ok if you are starting out on chaos difficulty. there's still tons of room for improvement
>>573621748I turned it off a while ago so I don't remember how often it happens but you do want it off for savescummingThe game still saves after every quest run with it off iirc but I usually manually save anyways
>>573619398you only need 200k for the first level, but you probably need about a million or two between every mastery level and unlocking the nodes from tiering up
>Zoom in on booba at the start of fediel SBAthey knew
>>573621763Im already doing down into Chaos+. Just finished slimes for the firsttime.So what can I do to improve?
>>573622120Lv60 damage cap unless it's hiding in your 2nd skills Replace those non + supplemental damages with something that gives more cap
>>573621312I don't think you should run berserker echo below 25K ATK get her warpath instead.
>>573614570I'm going to fix up my AIs, they can only do DPS checks until Pyet-A, and I'm player gated right now
>>573622120put her warpath in thereget the celestial sigilsberserker echo isn't even activatedsupp v is horrible, at least get supp v+, although i think you replace them with celestial sigils anyway
>>573618768if solo, which characters are you planning with
>>573622235Damage cap is at 59, if I can max out the Gamma it would be 60... or I could just swap it to another DmgCap+ I got.>>573622246Oh. I took off Tyranny to get more HP and it dropped her raw attack... kinda forgot about Berserker Echo needing that. I'll need to swap it back.>>573622623I dont got any SuppV+ lol. As for her Warpath, I have this sigil on. What does her Warpath one do?
>>573623121You're better off just forgetting about Berserker Echo for a bitThe transcended weapons will get enough attack on their own to activate it by like Chaos+
>>57362312110% damage up for 20s when you do a y finisher15% if you alternate between y finishers (so like spear and scissors)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbF2zYQy-FU
being able to take your fully geared team into conflux was pretty stupid.i was expecting it to be an actual roguelike where you have nothing at the start and all the choices are impactful but i'm not even reading them at this point and just taking anything to win faster.
Does anyone want to farm Chaos++ Faa?
>>573617718i just finished the rest of the chaos++ quests so its time to get raped
>>573623121>What does her Warpath one do?Time to hit the transmarvel.
>>573623430conflux feels like an afterthought for making gearing alt characters less of a pain in the ass. it being gated to singleplayer should have been the first hint for thisa proper roguelike mode would do something like disable all of your equipped sigils and go from there, with multiplayer being added in
>>573623425>178mBaby numbers
>>573623425hope someone eventually can get 200m+ on her since a bunch of early showcases of other chars are already 200 - 300m minus the stupid outliers with like 400 - 500m
>>573622796not sure yet, i'll probably put sieg on an AI with his offense set and a fully transcended terminus, since he was the first character I ran through the DLC withi beat the fight using an ascension weapon with the substitute build and ~350k hp. there are a few spooky parts of the fight where it felt like a good idea to hold substitute for the party>>573623603good luck anonversa is the easiest imo, the second easiest would depend on your character/build and what you feel good at
>AI party wont attack slimes or collect the crystalsDamn. I guess being able to afk those two missions would be giga free.
>>573623425I did this during my chaos+ ML20 naru with just the normal strings and skills, if mag has to do all those gymnastic shit, then is she that bad for AI? don't think Ai can juggle even half that stuff
>>573624280the worlds squishiest yoda ran it down but the boss was at 75% with a minute left lmao
>>573624943if all 4 people are parrylets it's pretty hard to beat the dps check, he takes 3x as much dmg for 15s on top of a free link attack if someone parries his quickening punch aoes
>>573624943the world basically requires two things>people to fish for perfect guards on quickening to guarantee a free stun, since his stagger bar in phase 1 is insanely bloated>enough dps to burn his phase 1 so he doesn't build too many attack buff stacksyou can read the quest page to see the gimmicks that got adjusted. perfect guarding his quickening attack punishes him in the normal fight, but in this version it's been made mandatory>>573625304>parrydoes it work on actual parries too? i was under the impression it'd only work on perfect guards specifically
So what's the fastest way to farm MSP now?Leveling Master Traits is going to be painful for multiple characters
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1xNNW6REdh/?share_source=copy_webis this real or fantasea
Relink LobbyID: MTE1 BFGN T3CS DHSPPass: MirinDoesn't matter what we do, also don't mind helping with whatever.
>>573625620>spam chaos+ slimes and hope you get a room with another high level friend so you can get 60k-80k per clear>trade in your spare summons for MSPpick your poison
Gang how is Siete doing this DLC? Is he good at 50?
>>5736257482/4
Is there a way to try characters out if you don't have them leveled/geared up?I feel like the dummy might not be quite enough to determine if you like a character or not.
>>573614570I played Io up through infinite World and now I'm running through the earlier chaos fights with eustace to learn/gear him.I'll probably do the same thing with Zeta/Id to finish my party.>>573595569It's easier on subsequent runs but a big tip is to hold your charge just a little bit against mobile bosses until after a boss attacks.Ruby golem is a good place to learn it
I refuse to Finisher Spam as Charlotta unless the boss is being stunned by SBA's or is Broken. Your runs WILL take longer as a result, you WILL like it because I will ALMOST never be downed due to not being caught mid-finisher animation and not eating up your critical bar AND because I often end up the one the boss is targeting instead of you. Because the finisher spam style is so fucking boring it actually gives me a headache.
>>573626441no because master traits change the way you play a character a lot of the times. naked characters won't be representative of the real experience
>>573625938Siete changes were great, he feels way nicer to play
>>573627037what's his gameplay flow like after mastery? I might pick him up
I cant tell if GranDjeeta's Lv2 Crux is really good or a meme build
>>573625705He shows the build but something seems fishy
>>573625705considering he mores than doubles the general record for fediels and he's chinese it's safe to ignore it
Gallanza is fun as fuck
>>573627902He's fun but I worry if he can handle the super high difficulty stuffSuper armor characters get fucked over by one shot content
>>573628018Just need to become a parryGOD.Feels like most of the actual oneshot through 300k hp and stoutheart/nerves stuff are during untargetable periods anyway
>>573628018Super armor only gets clapped if the character is super clunky. I dunno about Gallanza but technically Charlotta is a super armor character via her Unique Attack parry which basically lets you never stop attacking.
>>573627234substitute is pretty good, just remember to build hpsince terminus weapons aren't nearly as mandatory now, you can reasonably get away with a transcended ascension weapon and a solid 350k hp while still pumping good numbers both directly yourself and indirectly by keeping your pubtards alivejust remember that sub eats on-hit debuffs too, so don't pop it on certain attacks
>>573628018You can dodge during his turbine move if you went that master trait.
>>573628018the only fight that explicitly fucks over super armor is defying luci, and that's because most of his attacks give you a stacking max HP debuff so everyone goes down in 5 hits if you don't let the debuff wear off
>>573629582Just don't get hit, right?
>>573629748pretty much, but the debuff loses a stack if you avoid one of the debuffing attacks for long enough, so you have a tiny bufferbubz' perma hp penalty for falling off his arena is much harsher, with how big the knockback is on some of his attacks
is Eustace good later or nah
>new poto baha fight uses the remixed theme they made for the persona 5 collabIt's funny how they keep using that theme as yet another baha theme instead of a theme made exclusively for that collab. It's so much like a persona song it kinda sounds out of place.
>>573630154I fucking love that they added stuff like that thoughI know we'll hear the April Fools version one day in Relink... one day...
>>573627902true but shame that he's mostly holding turbine or less difficult zeta>>573627037is the infinio creare mastery any good later? i need some good sword summoner cuz magielle is a fucking cucked char
Lobby ID: 9LF6 5PPS TT8N NAKYPW: MaggersFarming Chaos+/++ Summons
>>573630051He's weird.One of the most mobile characters in the game with some of the highest burst DPS, but outside of his windows he drops down to below average damage.Against shit like the world where you need to swap between clearing cards and actually damaging the boss he kind of sucks.Against bubs where you can build meter during the phase transitions?Really good.
>>573631807so what you're saying is that he's ranged sieg
>>573630825Still open, anon?
>>573632062Yup still 1/4
>>5736308252/4
where the fuck do you get chaos refinium?
>>573632009Haven't played sieg, but if they sound similar...?
>>573621312Your atk is way too low, get celestial terra and lumen those are the best new general sigils for most chars, even if those has trash subs just use them until you find better onesSup damage is waste of slots this dlc because:>DLC fucks everyones cap and cog gets fucked very very hard to the point her best skill becomes pure gap closer now that you better forget it exists during link time. You need fuckton of damage caps now and sup damage already eats 3 precious slots>Berserker+spartan echo is already 100% sup damage x2 on top of taking only 2 slots vs sup damage taking 3 slots just for 100% sup damage x1Also drop faa sigils they are pretty meh now because the meta becomes full burst instead of cog turbos her SBA gain then casually drops it
why are there so slow adding new characters... they didn't even finish the eternals or evokers lineups
>>573630154Is New World Order of The World phase 2 new?
>>573632679Level 1?You don't!I've been farming the first song/smug fight offline since conflux doesn't give you shit for the time you spend.
Whats the best quest for fortitude crystal L in dlc? rumored monsters gives like 30-40 for 4 minutes, surely there's something better now
>>573632990Nohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDEgNcM40J0
So I basically don't need Warpath anymore on Charlotta?
I really dont understand how they can fuck the sigils up again.I dont even know how I can build characters and they have just essentially made more mandatory sigils in trade for a few older mandatory sigils.I was expecting them to put shit like damage cap sigils on 1 slot but instead they give us 4 or 5 more mandatory dam cap sigils.
>>573634625yeah we are entering negative braincell territory
nyo...
>>573634917Shit I'm glad actually that we get a free'd up sigil slot. Everyone else wracking their brains trying to fit their double Awakening + Warpath in with all the other mandatory sigils and as mini-gorillas get a free fucking slot lmao.
>>573624928Maggie can continue combos after a dodge so the AI should be fine
>>573634653>4 (2) extra sigil slots in summons>damage sigils are useless>luci sigils are near uselessYou have more utility slots than ever.
I'm so grateful I actually like to play Fediel. It always happens to me in games that characters I look forward to end up having playstyles I dislike.
>>573634653Alright, why don't you make some new interesting sigils that offer a variety of options without being 1 clear best
>>573634917DESU Charlotta really doesn’t wanna get hit by anything big now or you drop your stacks so I’d say she’s less lenient than before.
>>573635236everyone i see is running around with the 40% dmg cap summons
>>573635236>Luci Sigils>Useless
>>573636325You can get damage cap from so many other sources now though
>>573636485But they provide the most cap up in a single sigil, on top of other neat effects like SBA up and shield when you ougi.
>>573636325>nearFor 90% of players the non-gamma sigils are worth far less than the new ones until you learn the fights.Swap them back in once you stop eating the bar>>573636262Those are on different slots.Sigils =/= Stat
>>573636635>two sigil slots for 40% na exclusive cap>20% per sigilIs that really true?
now that was an ideal team
>>573636831meta i was told going into ER is 2 gamma and 1 of your preferred key is fine for a lot of chars. the NA cap is like 25% with one and 40% with 2 which is a lot of falloff. the skill one is like 35/50.
>>573636485And you need every single last bit of damage cap, Attack is fucking high as shit now
>>573636982So I only need 1 alpha and 2 gammas now instead of 2 and 2? Neat that frees up a slot.
Weird that a retard like Bea is the one who is filtering people. I can count the number I've seen her online on one hand
>>573637810What's so filtering about her? You don't really need to swap clock hands unless she gets special buffs when you do, which I didn't see when leveling her up. Rest of her kit kinda feels meh unless you have stout heart and trade everything.
>>573638019People find her "clunky". I personally find her pretty comfy. Stay in Yellow then switch to red in damage windows.
>>573638153I just stay in red and use a stout heart sigil. Damage is good enough and I like not being bothered by things.
>>573635987NTA but Charlotta players were allergic to getting hit anyway if they weren't Finisher spamming and getting swatted out of the air constantly for doing so. X button mashers are winning cause now there's a whole Master style combination where you're better off just mashing X due to the massive damage cap buffs for it + incentive to specifically time your Y button presses to parry things instead of using it for damage unless the boss is stunned or downed as >>573626836 basically said.
>>573638361you still get an aerial dodge after a y and the y itself is also a parry so idk how people are getting hit spamming the finisher. you can also just hold x for a moment to stall for a bit and then dodge if you’re not confident. the finisher ‘combo’ is so fast that there’s little risk involved in the first place, you don’t have to wait for cc to do it
please tell me there's more new fights the further I goit just told me to fight bahamut versa, lucilius, and bubs againthere's so few new fights what the fuck it's all reskinsthey could have at least been fights you didn't grind the fuck out of in endgame already like a new angra mainyu or somethingI'm super disappointed in the lack of story too. I wanted more big stages and setpieces but this is just arena arena arena arena arena arena arena. the intro cutscene showed characters standing around in new locales and I got excited and then the japanland stage is just a conflux arena
>>573575193I mean in game she wants to spam skills always so it makes sense.
>>573639171don't play monster hunter
Is everyone just playing on their own?
>>573575193I do her combos to skill spam harder since doing them gives you a lot of buffs.
>>573639513wilds was the first MH I skipped since I picked up that series in freedom uniteI fuckin hate zoombrain gamers man endless arenas suck ass
>>573554825Charge attack and charge attack speed sigils. Also stuff for cool downs because be wants to be played far away but spamming charge attacks for max damage.
>its another episode of retards chasing the swords instead of hitting the body
>>573639837Which fight?
Looking for a new main.Which of the female potatoes do I pick?
>>573638969The plunge finisher gets swatted on the way down and pizza cutter got nerfed to the point it's not even worth using + it only hits once or twice on smaller bosses
>>573640294Charlotta if you want to DPS and also test yourself to never get hit by anything by virtue of the Y button parry. Maggie is the support/sub-DPS.
>>5736308253/4
Charlotta bros... someone earlier in the thread said the "pizza cutter" cut nerfed. What move is that? Is it the finisher I always do where I press Y and jump into air while glowing yellow and then press X to spin like a human buzz saw? Am I supposed to switch to the finisher where I keep the stick neutral and press no buttons and land on the ground and do an auto attack?
i cant spam lightstep as sandy anymore what am i supposed to do now
>>573639171It's a boss rush game bro
Does Fatebreaker and Celestial Lumen work in Conflux?
>doing the Chaos++ Id fight>I'm invincible for over half the fight and never going down cause I keep parrying everything>we fail the quest anyway cause some mouthbreather keeps getting downed>do another run with a different team>it happens again but this time the retard is a fellow Charlotta who is trying to finisher spam only to get slapped every time he connects with the ground cause he's just spamming it non-stop without thinkingbruh.mp3>>573640746Yes it's the spinning finisher. And yes it got nerfed. Plunge gets swatted out of the air, spin is just for chasing or prolonged parry frames now. You're stuck going back to mashing cause all of Charlotta's stuff basically relies on holding your Y button for parries instead of damage so you never lose stacks. Only time you spam the plunge finisher now is when the boss is stunned or something or else you're just asking to get punched in the face and sent flying across the entire arena due to how SLOW the plunge attack is. Plunge does amazing damage but it's unreliable when the boss can still move and has less parry frames than spin.
So lost on how to play relink as a returnee. I want to build Siete as a new character. Wtf do I do?
>>573642181Where are you at progress wise?
>>573640000infinity lucillius
WE REQUIRE MORE SILVER CENTRUMS, SIRE
>>573642220I have an endgame Katalina. I quit before they released the eternals/Lucilius fight.
So which Cog mastery do you guys like playing?Crippling Combos or Super Collapse?Im liking Collapse a bit more because I dont need to track which combos im doing and just fire off Collapse after each combo without worrying about charging it now.Although Crippling Combos giving you 20 seconds of spamming Collapse is kinda funny.Havent tried Alchemedic but Im guessing it be great on the AI or if I wanna go super support mode.
>>573637020Why not run Stun with the basic sigil = 40% damage cap mastery?Two Stun/DMG cap sigils gives you 80% OVERALL cap instead of the shit luci gives you.
>>573642531His unique sigils are pretty good now that avatar uptime is really consistent and finishers are easier to getOtherwise you just want stuff like quick cooldown and cascade, you want to spam his skills as hard as you canHe's pretty fun now and really flashy, he's cool
new bread?
>>573644172You're still going to run ALL of those
>>573645012Bake it
>>573644172This.
>>573646387>>573646387>>573646387>>573646387
>>573645552Character sigil 1/SPACECharacter sigil 2/SPACE(SOMETIMES)Beserker/(SPACE)Spartan(SPACEWar Elemental(SPACE)Stun/CapStun/CapLuci/CapLuci/Cap
>>573646479>>573645552>spamSPACE/SPACESPACE/SPACESPACE/SPACESummon/Imbue SPACE X 7You have 8-9 spaces for Quick charge/Guts/Revive/Hoarder/Lumen/Ventus/Terra/HP/Nimble/FatebreakerAnd another three for some of the old sigils.You're going to be farming for a looooooooooong time before Luci sigils are optimal.
whats the ideal AI team looking like fellas
