Main website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/enWiki: https://gbf.wiki/Granblue_Fantasy:_Relink>FAQhttps://rentry.org/RelinkFAQ>Patch 2.0.2 detailshttps://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/>Send your feedback herehttps://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedbackOld thread: >>573646387
Is the world fight just the main wall for people?
Asking again, am I missing something or working on outdated info? I'm trying to run this slime survival fight and some others to try and catch up but MM cannot find anyone to do it with, so I'm having to solo. Is there a newer farming mission? But even then I would have thought some new players would still be running it.
>>573734617there's chaos slime yes
Reminder:get more damage cap, motherfucker
>>573734617The chaos+ one?You shouldn't have much issue with matches there.Just farm the post final boss quests if you're up there though. They give useful mats, and more importantly, SUMMONS!
>>573734582>see idiot proc guts>Pop blue pot>more than half their health is filled
>prep face kick>the world stocks his attack a pixel in front of me, making me whiff the parryI hate this
>>573734582Wait elaborate, regular Chaos++ story world or infinity world? Because I can't see chaos++ story world being more than a speedbump
>>573735246Stops*
>battlefield cultivator rosettabot applies -12% defense and gives 32% attack to the whole party forever at bare minimumluv me beautiful young woman. hasn't left my party since I recruited herreworking how buffs and debuffs interact with caps in endless ragnarok was a good move and I'm glad they did it
>>573735659brother I cannot WAIT any LONGER
theres way too many numbers going on i cant tell how much damage im really doing in the conflux
>>573735935I hate the damage numbers, its just spam everywhere and can't see shit on top of all the effects as well. I need the mod that hides the numbers or makes them smaller to update.
>the character you're playing most right now>your thoughts on them and their masteries
echos should just be condensed into the main number
>>573735935Is that even after you disable your ally's dmg numbers and skill effects?
>>573736280>Fedia>Her whole kit invalidated by the bomb Y spamI had so much fun before getting it>Currently using Beatrice>Get to spam skills as they come off cooldown super quickReally fun but worried that I'll get raped later on when I can't facetank everything with stout heart
>>573736423skill effects only applies to AI members so online is a clusterfuck and your own damage numbers more than makes shit awful to see especially if you have lots of multihit stuff
Where are>Aru>Danua>Magisa>Vira>Grea>Medusa>Galleon>Rei>like half the zodiacs>Threo>Nier
>>573736280Io!Swapped to skill spam last night and I'm getting even more mvps than before somehow.Fire>Ice>Flowery>Lightning>SG5>If proc>SG5 until fire is off cooldown>Fire>Ice>Lightning>repeatIf sad...>build up to SG5 once>see abovePretty nice not having to worry about pot spamming to keep Lumen up.
>>573735731sorry, the slot was reserved for marishill yuri agenda
>>573736280fedielI'm using all of the animal so I'm still having a lot of fun with her. I wish I could find a way to fit the black's blessing into my 4 skill slots, but miasma/fear/teleport/parry is too funwhere is the bikini skin. sex with dragon
>>573735935it's weird that everyone else is wearing black panties (npc)
Why do you guys hate djeeta? What'd I ever do to you?
>>573734976fuck damage cap, get uplift you lazy fucks i'm tired of people being criminally low on SBA when we need to full burst
>>573734976how
The left weapon is ascension fully transcended, right is terminus full transcended>ascension+almost double max HP+24% defense+firm stance lv17+1 extra second of invuln after perfect dodge from nimble onslaught lv30>terminusdoes 16% more damage
>>573737230https://x.com/relink_official/status/2075052775323607239/photo/1https://x.com/WeeklyFamitsu/status/2075052325216178532djeets will never be forgiven and will be actively forgotten, reminder that blue is just djeets which they then retconned to look like a generic npc kid
>>573737424>Missing 16% damageYou will be kicked from the lobby, the crew, the club, and blacklisted.
>>573737554Not even Zoi is this autistic
>>573735316Chaos++Somehow the easiest form of the fight is filtering people, pretty much preventing me from progressing.
>>573737424you don't even have the same sigils, the first one has 2 aegis no shit it has more hp
Did some testing. Celestial Ventus applies on top of the total damage. Past the Damage Cap.78606 + 7% = 84108 and disregards the DMG CAP%Skilled Assault, Break Assassin and all other ones just shows more Overcapped DMG% and have no effect on the actual damage.So thank you Cygames for the shitty wording where they both say the exact same thing but this other one does work on top.I'm guessing all the new Celestial Sigils work over the cap by virtue of being "New" and "Celestial"
Brehs...........
>>573736959Sorry, but this is Cygays. They HAVE to shill homofaggot knights and homoniggerfaggot angels. You VVILL enjoy your homos.
>>573736280>Danchouthe free damage cap from perk 3 isnt enough to keep me interested. im realizing my main issue with djeeta gran is they get so much skill cooldown to mash abunch of skills, but the skills themselves are boring or not flashy enough for my monkey brain. arts doesnt feel like a pay off at all
>>573737935broit's terminusit doesn't do anything over 200k hp, he can't use aegis or gaegis without breaking the weapon
>>573737935Are you retarded?Adding aegis to the terminus set will push you over 200k... making the weapon moot.
>>573737935Smartest poster award
>>573737940probably supposed damage amp like the gacha
>>573737935beabrain
>doing conflux with my new maxed out terminus>comfy speed kills>suddenly all hp up boons>literally nothing but hp ups>can't decline any>have to take them>now over 200k hp and my power dramatically goes down
>>573737840I'll be honest I just bulldozed that fight with a 400k maxed out defender weapon, 2 AI that were on transcend 3 stunners and the last was an AI that was still on an awakened terminus. Hearing the co-op community struggle with it is disheartening. Like I just barely beat the sub-goal timer so I was expecting 4 geared up dudes to run him over
>defeat managarmr alterphaseNOI DO NOT WANT TOI DO NOT LIKE MANAGARMR STOP PUTTING IT IN THIS JUST LET ME FIGHT EXCAVALLION OR SOMETHING PLEASE JUST NOT MANAGARM NOOOOO
>>573737940I bet it's the fucking icon that resembles the dmg cap sigil.Nips do be fucking obtuse like that.
>>573738348Most people fighting him aren't geared up in co-op since they're likely still cruising on defender weapons instead of an almost maxed out ascension weapon.
Mag's terminus is a honda civic
>using any other summon than refereedeserves to be thrown in a woodchipper
>>573736771Generally how hard do things hit in the endgame of Ragnarok? Is it just like the base game where if you used the upgraded Terminus you just get one shorted?
They really added a ton of songs from the mobageI wonder if Akasha/Grand Orders song not being in increases the odds of her being future dlc
Is cag just a collapse spammer now?
>>573738460The world has like 1 insta-kill pattern, its probably slow but theres no way they're dying with a max transcended defender weapons
So I just started because I wanted to play Fediel but she feels kind of ass to play. Am I doing something wrong? She just stomps a lot and I can't get her to do her claw attack consistently / waiting a long time
>>573738639>there's no wayWell they're dying regardless, often in 1-2 hits, from failing mechanics and just eating shit.
>>573738286lmao guess it's better to use the ascension weapon for confluxthanks cygames
>>573738530Terminus means you get oneshotted yesThats the whole thing about itYou do more damage and get some nice boosts in exchange of being 1 hit away from eating dirt. In Base game it was way better than the others so it was a no brainer.Now not so much, the other weapons are very competent and usable with Ascension being quite good now.
>>573737940Rule of thumb: If it's an old sigil and says DMG dealt, it doesn't go past cap. Lancelot's character sigil is guilty of this too. "Enhanced DMG" goes past cap usually in old wording however.If it's a new sigil that says DMG dealt, or for masteries if it's +ATK% on a buff or mode that has a buff indicating it's active, then it also goes cap.
Just don't get hit.
>>573738687You can claw instantly from 3 of her skills and you can also claw after a stomp if you press heavy attack to warp to them then you can start clawing.
i'm doing the world and of course there's a fucking fediel and fucking io dropping SBAs whenever they reach 100%
>>573738941But what about warpath that say DMG up?
>>573738687with the right build, she's the best dps at the moment
>>573736993oh skill spam is viable then? I just came back after 1.0 and want to play more IO again, but I see a lot of people talking about charged basic/SG IO
>>573738687She feels bad until you get her level 30 mastery then she is a fucking spirit bomb spamming godClaw attack is only after you hit X till you see the weird purple parallelogram (either at the first stomp or after the double fireball if you have the mastery that speeds up the combo) then hit Y to do the warp claw then finally after you can mash X for claws or Y for a spirit bombUse skills off cooldown to skip steps and jump straight to more claws/bombs
>>573738735Jesus thats depressing, I think the only time I was scared when I ran it with AI was when I let him have the devil card since DoT from the flames is based on max HP
>>573739143A Fediel with uplift can probably get 2 full bars before an average rando can get one
>>573739436Personally I hate the justice one the most because those swords always go off at the worst fucking time, and can hit you again mid hitstun which they often will do when they're not hitting you while animation locked.
>I can just AFK quests with my AI team since they are immortal>If i want a challenge i have to play Online and have a sidequest of scooping Potatoes and Narmayas off the floor every Overdripe phaseFunny how that works.
>>573739408she felt great to me from the start and while I definitely throw a lot of finishers I'm still using the rest of her stuff. stomps for -30% defense, teleports for getting around stuff, parry to maintain the supplementary damage. I could probably drop miasma for black's blessing and just use miasma for AoE fights but I'd rather just hold onto miasma since it does really good damage during bursts and I like having a damage skill
>>573739097>>573739309>>573739408>She feels bad until you get her level 30 mastery then she is a fucking spirit bomb spamming godI think that has to be it. I'm only level 14 right now as I do the story so I'm still unlocking her tools but she feels so bad at present because I only have 1/2 skills that go into the claws at the moment nor can I spam spirit bombs. Her heavy currently doesn't link into the hands for me, so I guess I have to unlock that too
>>573739372I don't parse so I'm sure the damage is lower against the dummy, but not having everything banked on landing your SG means more mobile bosses, and those with frequent phase changes are less punishing.Double dipping on def debuffs during link helps the party as well
>>573739258Warpath DMG up goes past dmg cap, it's slightly more recent
>>573739143I can SBA while you're still at 40-50 and I can get to 60 when you finally initiate your 100
>>573739804that's way more of a from the start than I got I supposelooking at her basegame mastery tree faster voidskip charge is probably when she starts to come togethershe's my favorite character to play in this I've picked thus far but I got her at the start of endless ragnarok
>>573739143honestly that's fine as long as they're at 100% while everyone else is low or as long as the boss isn't near an SBA mechfediel and io are SBA batteries
>>573739804Her heavy should link into claws from the start of the game, you just have to use the alternate form of her heavy which you get after the first stomp in the combo (the name of the skill for heavycshould change on the bottom right)
>do 4 dragons>multiple runs without a damn earthwhy
>>573739804I think you are just not playing correctly. You can go into claws from the first stomp by pressing Triangle and then doing Square.Then you can do Triangle again to do her Orb finisher.Thats usualy what you do for the most part while sprinkling skills in the middle and using Triangle to reposition since it has iframes. She works decently well no issues.obviously later on you can do crazy stuff with masteries but you are quite far from that.
>>573740204I looked out of curiosity and I think she actually can't stomp into claws from the start of the game and needs this node, which is 22 rows down the mastery tree
>>573736280cog and potato, right now taking a break from potato>cogDevs trying to force collapse playstyle ruins her very hard (especially by raping her only real damage skill). Not only collapse isn't that strong even if you go all in on that playstyle, its fucked by one big issue where dodging instantly removes the charge combined with bosses attacks becomes more frequent/harder to deal in dlc makes the only mastery worth to go for is her buffslut traits. I'm already at a point where i'm using flight over fight+nimble assault because her damage is just that bad now and just spam XXYY 24/7 since it has the best stun damageAs if that isn't enough gut punch quick look at her EX traits shows her golden days are over, its underwhelming in general (where is "retain collapse after dodging" trait?? Io gets this at base game for free) outside of phantasma +20% dmg cap so even more reason to be a buffslut now
>>573740469Yeah it sucks that they doubled down on making Cog a buff character, especially with the heal conversion into a shield.
why is bea so garbage? her dps is like half of everyone elses for no reason
nobody cares, everybody hates cagliostro, the character deserves to be shit
>>573740462Wtf ok didn't know that
>>573739804Just keep toughing it out, endgame she's an autotracking nuke spammer with an escape, free mirror images, and buffs/debuffs that all help the partyhttps://x.com/i/status/2075767888116592942
>>573739309If it applies a buff effect, it should.
>>573740204>>573740460>>573740791I finally found the practice dummy and was actually able to do a version of it, although it took me like 4+ Stomps? But it feels super inconsistent so I need to practice that. The name didn't change but when I was close enough to the dummy, she came out of the portal slashing this time. I really don't get it desu but I will keep pusing forward. Thanks guys
>put damage cap sources in every orifice with ascended terminus weapon>still don't need tyranny or stamina, not a single +atk% sigil to cap>without accounting for fatebreaker giving +50% atk in dlc questsThere is just so much fucking +ATK% in masteries and the weapons have so much more base ATK. To think people overreacted and thought we wouldn't have enough to hit damage cap..
>>573740469idk how this relates, but I played with an SBA spam cog and it was some launch ferry shit, we had like 30% SBA by the time this guy had 100%
>>573741003you have your 400% dmg cap from summons?
Best party members for AI?
>>573740469Don't bother charging. Just XYY or use the skills for the instant proc of full strength collapse. Dodge cancelling the animation doesn't stop the instant proc.
>>573741319Cog/Mag/Sieg
>>573736280>idHe's great fun. If you liked him in base game before and after warpath you'll love him in ER. Skill cooldown reset on exiting godmight is an insane EX mastery. Perma dragon form mastery seems like a total meme, but maybe against really fat targets like Versa and Hexa it might be good to just be a Scourge spammer? Might be funny to try one day.Fourfold charge spam build seemed to do ok damage on a dummy but really boring and I can see it being tough to use in a real fight even with a parry being built into it. But it seems somewhat unique at least.>percivalParry tree is a bit weak, but his zerreissen nuke tree making him nuke for 100m dmg is really fun. His skill reset build is also really fun too. I have an AI percy with the skill reset tree spamming the petrify (slow+big def debuff) and he permanently gives everyone ATK 15% and DEF 15% which is really nice.
>>573741121Yeah, I occasionally just SBA with cog just to get everyone to catch up, with the 10% on SBA cast, since I'll guaranteed to be ready by the time they're ready.
>>573741000I THINK before you get >>573740462 you have to hold triangle/Y, and stomps just make the charging fasterI know you can just charge raw teleport and turn it into blackflash but once you get that node you can (probably) just press the button for blackflash after a single stomp
>>573737940Oooh so that's what it is. I didn't get it, the ventus effect seemed like a shitty effect at first but it makes sense if it means damage after cap. Thanks for the info.
>>573741319rosetta has gotten so much better with ER now that her buffs actually do somethingbosses might still be a little too mobile for her but I haven't felt like my rosetta bot is ever a liability and I want to have sex with her unlike the other support characters
>>573741125summons can get more than 50% dmg cap each?
>>573741825doesn't her mastery require her to do a specific combo? Does the AI prioritize it?
>>573736280>VaneI thought the aggro line was going to be the king, but I realize keeping the buff up can be rough because trying to do a full xxxyy can be difficult with how active fights are and while it's tanky, it's not THAT tanky.The beatdown trait is utterly broken. Like, i swing into attacks that shred other people and take like 5k damage. It's fucking stupid, but so fun.It's also ruining my ability to function as another character.
>>573736280>GhandagozaThey changed the charge mechanic of how his fist works and now his Link Time sucks ass. Previously you could just spam uncharged punches during it, thats not longer the case. Link Time basically gives no boons whatsoever to Ghanda other than being a CC to plant the boss in place
>>573742140>link time ghanda dead>fof lancelot dead>Y sandalphon deadmeanwhile>Y charlotta shitting out DPS as always
>>573742230the downside of charlotta Y spam is that you are playing charlotta Y spam
>>573736280Naru's masteries is kinda just mid again. Insight tree is nice but you have to juggle stuff while avoiding all the shits on screen after chaos+ is taxing. Essence does the most damage and doesn't need much managing but also counterintuitive, it kinda wants you to waste a skill slot that you wouldn't want to use if you don't want to lose kaleidoscope. crux is kinda lol what were they thinking.
>>573742140Well i lie, i does give you the max stacks but that was already there but with the super raging fist master style you can 3 fists in a row out side of link time, 4 if you link attack
Does the endgame solve terminus weapons having that extra Lv.5 Dmg Cap? It's not the end of the world but they really gave Dmg Cap sigil a terminus-shaped hole in the base game.Also, been learning to melee but was getting confused playing Bea. In yellow nothing staggers me and I had the impression this is how Stout Heart works so I was wondering if I should use Stout Heart sigil so I can actually combo in the other clocks. But when I tried it I would end up getting staggered in red/green anyway?? Am I doing something wrong?
>>573742467>ADoes the endgame solve terminus weapons having that extra Lv.5 Dmg Cap? It's not the end of the world but they really gave Dmg Cap sigil a terminus-shaped hole in the base game.lol yes
Is there a way to farm that item you can use to instantly max our a sigil now?
anyone wants to farm infinity lucilius?
>>573742827You'll passively acquire Azurite Shards doing Chaos and up quests.30 of those turn into 1 Splendor.
>>573741889Infinity summons cap at 100%
>>573742827You get shards to combine into them incidentally from playing ER content but I don't think you're meant to powerfarm it.
>>573742467yes through multiple methods>summons give another four level 15 trait slots>terminus itself was comparatively nerfed
>>573742467Terminus extra dmg cap is a lot less significant when you have 600% damage cap available on summons and masteries at the same point you get to max it.and the 200k HP limitation also means you will get one shot fairly often.So Terminus isn't the one and only weapon to be used like in the base game.
>>573742827you'll passively get shards>>573743012you can get a shitload of them from the final infinity quest
>>573743151>you get plenty of them right when you need them the leastnice
>no 200k HP will get you one shot too often!>In a difficulty where you still die in one hot from 400-600kErm
>>573736959are there new groups since the six dragons and orologia
>>573742389Isn't crux easily the best? 50% def reduction is insane and you'll have essentially 100% uptime on Utter Devotion
>>573743483if you are trying to tank a Named attack while on Overdrive yeah you are dying no matter what.But getting hit by strays, you can survive those if you are not a Terminusshitter with 90k hp
>almost 300 stun power>still die to stun timer DPS checks
>>573743632I can survive non named attacks just fine at 130k
>>573743504It is insane but the trade off for this which you will answer with, git extremely gud
>>573743239you can burn them for ambrosias
Anyone reach past master break rank 3? What mastery are there at level 3-5?
Room doko?
seofon bros... are we back???
>savescumming sigils :) all good, go ahead sir>modding legal sigils>:( grrrrrrrr cheater
is there a good bea vid guide on how to use her
>>573744087Siete was back just from the balance patch unfucking his entire character.
>>573744087is the buff permanent since thats a one time cast?
>>573743769I used it the whole DLC playthrough with my friends and honestly it's better than having to chase the bosses half the time whenever they aggro a ranged homie half a mile awayThe original problem with Utter Devotion was that it dropped uptime, but with it permanently on now it's actually kind of nice
Any Cog players here? They doubled down on making him a support so should I still level Stinger or just grab a defensive weapon or the stun one?
>>573743913It's more nodes in the mastery tree, you don't get more picks in the traits.
Room kokoLobby ID: E3TC BG2M T1NN DFAHPass: FedielDoing whatever chaos++ quests to farm up weps/summons/sigils/msp>>573743919
>Siete never whips out his magnificent car to run you over with during the fight with him and SongA 77,777 unavoidable plain damage check would've been a good wake up call...
>>573744087Use it while you can, people are already optimizing their builds and runs. Soon you wont get the time to actually get off cooldown. That skill deserved a whole tree and playstyle around it
>>573744481stood up and clapped when it happened
>>573744263It lasts 30 seconds but it gives you +30% damage after dmg cap so its still pretty insane>>573744574I think even 4 fediel bombers aren't gonna clear the infinite quests in 5 minutes
>>573744805I can see the world getting deleted, that perfect guard debuff is no joke
>>573742467you are probably using the one that gives you stout heart when charging attacks, there's a different one that just gives you stout heart at all times, and yeah you should be using that since the red mode is required to make her do any damage
>>573743632the only fight where im dying all the time is infinity luci but somehow i don't think more hp would solve that when he's inflicting max hp down anyway
Do you have to do Conflux stuff to get the ability to transcend Ascension weapon? Mine still says "complete".
>>573744287Too many good skill buffs with naru and I dont wanna drop blue petals, fuck I guess goodbye pink petals again
>>573745156Yes conflux 5 go clear it
Anyone build Siete yet in ER? How is his masteries and new stuff?
>>573744481he has a car? why? it’s not a sword
Cygames betrayed the loyal fans of the Granblue Fantasy by creating this blasphemy for secondaries that never even played GBF and this that this filthy 3d-mutation has ANYTHING to do with GBF setting, lore and characters.You never experienced GWs, you never bought any scams, you have never been tier-4 citizens, you never farmed bars 24/7, you never farmed sands 24/7, you never carried Versusia, you never got to t2k. You will NEVER be real Grubbers!
>>573745495They made him much less awkward to play due to adjusting the way his gauges work as a baseline.With masteries you can basically get infinite Stout Heart, stacking buffs, and basically refill the Avatar Gauge just by fighting with the Avatar out, so it's like you do the finisher, maybe another combo for buffs, and then get it right back out.
>>573745736Because everyone needs a slick ride around the skies.
Snow White and her three dwarfs.
anyone tried crux siete with channeling spell? is it good?
>>573745012Red gives her supp in Super mode but its not adding anything to capped damage otherwise no? To me it seems like if you just play with yellow until the boss is down you don't need to give up sigil space.
>>573745746you will be tier 2 citizens from now on
>>573745746Joke's on me I've been playing this shit since before homoangels ruined it and I'm still below Rank 400.
>>573745746No one cares about your ancient, outdated mobage bruh, not even long-standing grubbers do at this point.
This is what I do to Bea after a long day of questing!
>>573746071do they ever show how it looks like?
Is the slime summon the only way to boost mastery points gain?
>>573745746thank god
>>573746505Reminds me of when people made pregnant edits of her when she got captured by those feral harvins.
>>573746652there’s a sigil trait for it no? path to mastery?
So... can Eustace use his strafe shot to dodge (i.e. has invincibility frames like a normal dodge) attacks or not?
>>573746560It's a joke based on the name of one his triggers in his raid in the main game.He does not actually have a car.
>>573746339>No one cares about your ancient, outdated mobage bruh, not even long-standing grubbers do at this point.We absolutely do.>>573746281>and I'm still below Rank 400.You are a tourist that doesn't respect the game and the developers. And the other players with your shameful display. You are an eyesore. Any serious player would get to the max rank the same day after uncap.
Best way to level new characters and MSP?
>>573747062Slimes
>>573747043Most of the old-guard have fallen out bozo. Your game doesn't even grace most people's lips anymore.
>>573747026but that’s what carro means…
>>573747062>slimeblasting 2.0 with other people at mastery 50+>spamming endgame chaos++/infinity quests to get summons to sell to the knicknack shack while farming for other itemsboth methods are reliant on the people you run into
>thinking about trying percival out since his nuke mastery looks fun>get this shit when burning transmarvel rollsI guess I'm gearing him up next
How do I get more Crewmate cards?I recruited Fruax and Fediel like an idiot and I still got Lancelot, Gand, Sieg, Yoda, Seofon and Tweyen to unlock but only got 3 cards left.
>>573747009Yes.The perfect dodge timing is borderline impossible though
>>573747858does it get extended with fof
>>573747940unfortunately not
Uuuuuugh I GUESS I *have to* build my AI units now so I can go kill bub cause if I don't they spend most of the time on the ground bleeding and also doing no damage.
GBF still secretly leads the JP charts.The game is alive as ever. Hence why this Genshin clone was born.
>>573747298He just stares menacingly.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YK-Ye39DX10
>>573747792Seofon and Tweyen can be unlocked by grinding IIRC, otherwise there's some sidequests, and you can get some from the Conflux randomly.
>>573744102I'm glad you understand.
yup its full auto repeat time
Is there more aids fight than all versions of Furrycane?
I'm a bit into the dlc now and I NEED to hear that there's actually new enemies not just upscaled old ones and bubs at the end
Any characters have Tyra colors?
>>573748717
>>573748282>Genshin cloneBrother in christ we got a sized down version of XIV, it's literally just "boss rush with friends - the game" just like XIV endgame. The boomer Japs holding all the money over on the island would sooner DIE than put in the kind of investment needed for an actual Genshin clone AND the investment needed to support it beyond maybe 2-3 major patches. They're basically allergic to putting in that kind of work and monetary investment and the idea of tying themselves down to a product rather than pumping and dumping it like they have everything else in the past 10 to 15 years. This is not a defense of Genshit, cause Genshit sucks to play but something of that scale/scope is well-beyond what the Japs are willing to do any time soon.
>never seen a single SeofonIs he that bad? whats the issue
I was having fun until i fought Chaos Id
>Told myself this game sucks>everyone gasses the game up>its amazing>talk to friends>"The game isn't just hack and slash slop its actually good!">Play the game>Its just hack and slash number slop. Been fighting the same handful of monsters>Can't see shit, can barely parry or dodge anything since the timing is inconsistent and shitOkay. A 60 dollar mistake but at least I learned now to trust my gut
>>573748956I've seen some but I have no idea if he's good or if the dude just gear gapped everyone else hard
>>573748509its all just menus but one is cbt and the other is smartessentially a cosmetic modyawn
>>573748864GBF, UMA and FGO > Genshit or any Chinkshit.
Infinity Luci is pretty fun, having the DPS check at the start is actually good game design filters out bad PUG's at the start, also love how he holds his massive sword swipe sometimes, the guy's pretty cheeky.
>>573749163>Soulsfag tries to play high octane anime boss fight gameMany such cases
>>573749163thanks for sharing
>>573749163>can barely parry or dodge anything since the timing is inconsistent and shitUnironic skill issue
>>573749163
>>573749312It's a stun check anon
>>573749273I'd put wuwa above genshit and the other clones personally. The devs feel like actual gamers instead of corpo rats.
>>573749374This isn't high octane anything. its just visual effects spam while pressing X and Y over and over again with some stupid skills thrown in sometimes.>>573749453I cannot see anything. The game has shit visual clarity because they insist on not letting you disable BIG damage numbers.>>573749427Thank you.
>>573748859fuck
>>573749668your welcome, i think you should still enjoy what you can get out of it playing with friends, unless you already refunded
>>573749668>>I cannot see anything. The game has shit visual clarity because they insist on not letting you disable BIG damage numbers.Lol, lmao even
>Can't see shit aieeeeeeee help meeeelollmaoeven
>>573748618Lava monster is worse, I'd rather fight Furycane.
>>573748717there are plenty of new fights but there are a lot of reskins with new attacks
>>573749073Just git gud. I breezed through the fight myself.
>>573749935Shit where do you get the Tuna summon?
>>573749837I'm not caught up yet so its mostly just solo. Maybe the game will get harder and feel rewarding later on.
>>573745746Grub should have ended after LuciliusI played 2018-2022 which was PEAK grub, but it's time for grub 2 (preferably using relink's gameplay system)
>>573750169>2018-2022 which was PEAK grubBaby tier trash.Real GRUB is right now.You haven't seen SHIT.
>>573745746dont car retard
>>573750262>GBF gets Astralia>Versus gets VersusiaAre you ready for Relinkia
>>573750693Granblunia my beloved...
>>5737443693/4
>that new firedile move setI immediately ate shit the moment the battle began because of how hard I was laughing at it launching into space.
>>573750169>but it's time for grub 2 (preferably using relink's gameplay system)i really hope that captain can get job classes in relink 2 or grub 2
Why does it seem like it's so easy to get MVP with Fraux? I've gotten it many a time and I don't feel like I'm doing anything special? Just punchy punchy and slows
>>573751161>slowsthat's why, status effects give you a huge point bonusit's why lancelot and io usually gets mvp too
>>573710378I will take vyrn over paimon any day
>>573745746nigga...
Vyrn is my chud son and I'll fight anyone who bullies him
is there an option to turn off other players and their effects visibility?I honestly cant see shit whats going on in the field
>>573751939There is one to turn off their effects
Vee-kun is my tokagehole and I'll pump him full of apples.
>>573751832Vyrn is my chud adoptive parent*
>>573750840Full?
>>573745746What do you mean, I was /here/ when shit hit the fan and burgerbros were getting bannedGood times
>>573752123Probably the funniest gacha happening ever
>>573750169Grub 2 literally just started with double the races after we found dad and the People of the Ground rose up.
>>573752176Quartz debt in FGO was up there.
Are there any new knicknack voucher farms?
>>573752176
we quit the main grub after the story ended as everyone else shouldve
>>573747689Keep rolling, that second skill is ass
>>573751767Im manifesting grarnd Mag just for you
>>573746227There are various bonuses that grant you extra damage, i.e. warpath and masteries, honestly it's hard to figure out exactly what it gives because nothing in the game fucking tells you but the difference in damage is huge with a fully built character, I do almost twice the damage compared to yellow.
>>573752449are you able to fuse warpaths yet?i didn't have his warpath yet so anything is better than nothing, since iirc charged attack DMG got cucked by the damage cap unlike other damage boosts
Djeeta doesn't feel good to play
The draph npcs in town must be some kind of propaganda or psyop.
I played relink first, tried to get into GBF because of it (and versus), hated it and now im relink'd again. ill be a proud secondary
>>573745746>You never experienced GWs, you never bought any scams, you have never been tier-4 citizens, you never farmed bars 24/7, you never farmed sands 24/7, you never carried Versusia, you never got to t2kAnd thank fuck for that.
>>573748717Literally the first dlc bosses are smugman and songThe third/fourth one is a giant crabWhat the fuck is your " a bit into the dlc"? The conflux tutorial? The fucking main menu?And no, Bubs is not the final dlc boss, it's Hexa
>>573753001gbf is awful, even the fighting game kinda sucks ass, this is the only good one anyway
Grub for this feel other than Id? (Cause his base form feels super clunky) Or am I just stuck with Id?
>>573752501Appreciated
People were posting about the stat sigil mastery last thread but remember 20% per sigil isn't actually worth saccing your build. If you already have upwards of 1000% damage cap endgame then what is 1020%? It's a nice treat for running a Stun Power but it's really not going to push out utility or all the actually multiplicative effects like echoes and war elemental
>>573753162the fighting game is ass but i still enjoyed it, it can still be a fun casually
So if I'm hitting the dummy above 100% does that mean I need more damage cap up?
>>573753001Nice tiger cun at least
>>573753268The argument was Stun/Cap over Luci/Cap.And if you can only fit one of them, Stun is vastly better than the SBA gain from double Luci, and you get more total cap to boot
>>573751767Rare mobage player W, extremely based.
>>573752591I hadn't bought her warpath because 10% supp is good but circumstantial but if that "+20% DMG" is a post-cap multiplier with shitty wording then that would make red with stout heart extremely worth it. I'll have to test that if no one knows offhand. Does Stout Heart appear in + sigils? I have zero.
>>573753432>rare slurper W
>>573753353Yes.
>>573753604>+ sigilsNope...Get it from a summon if you need it
>>573753390in relink never ever
4 dragons are pretty comfy desu.I just wish the order they came in was random
>>573753604I believe it is post cap because my damage went up a lot when I got it.I still think she's extremely underwhelming, I have her fully built and I pretty much always lose to anyone else with a fully built character.
>>573753787Id's dragonform master trait is post cap with the same wording.
>>573753884For >>573753604
AIEEEEEEEEEEE I'M GETTING FILTERED BY THE NEW FURYCANE AND ITS CYCLONESZERO PROBLEM BRUTE FORCING EVERYTHING UP UNTIL THIS POINT
>>573754078for me it's the charge attack that spinnnnn
>>573753787>>573753884Damn that's cool then. I'll check out red with stout heart then. I wasn't doing bad in pubs though, just not getting mvp consistently like I was with maglielle in the mastery 10 range quests. Which I figured was a fair trade for being unkillable desu.
>>573754078HOST IT
>>573753426Oh yeah I have no doubt we drop Luci keys by endgame. The Lv.30 effects mean nothing and the extra cap up is miniscule
>>573753747Why add some cute little girls when you could add more super popular guys like Raiden
>>573735513whore
Lobby ID: 8PFS 9WFT 6YKT A5KLPW: MaggersMostly Summon Hunting so whatever Chaos++
>>573754293Dont even joke like thati had to look him up i forgot who this fag was
I'm in chaos+ playing as Eustace and I do less damage to the 60 sec dummy than my highest Vaseraga damage in base Relink lol. Did they change anything to the dummy score or something or do I just do less damage? I know Vase was changed now too, something about his XXYY now doing less damage, max damage I had was around 57 mil and now it's like 32 mil using the same sigils I had in the base game.
>Doing the conflux to catch the NPCs up>Just doing the non-combat ones to speed things along>Grow kinda complacent with the airship spot the difference now that I'm used to it>Pops up again and I can't find the difference and end up failing>its Excavellion poking his head through the clouds to stare at meHow the fuck did I miss that, am I blind?
>>573737424Doesn't it give more DMG Cap than ascension weapon?
>>573754634I think they reduced everyone's damage cap, you can try again with Vas and it'll be lower
>>573754713it gives about 150% more cap but that's fucking nothing with how much total cap you'll have by the time you unlock itnormal attack builds are gaining even less cap from switching to terminus because ascension boosts normals
Data harvesting time.>Your current main>Your party setup
>>573753210Fraux?
>>573754778>you can try again with Vas and it'll be lowerThat's what I did, thanks for confirming my suspicions.
>>573754939I haven't played offline since the dlc dropped though.Might swap zeta out for JK or danchou when I do
>>573753210I can't tell what's going on.Which is surreal considering I just played some relink
Do not let the fact we got Fediel, which is actually a dragon with a poor understanding of draph gender dimorphism, distract you all from the fact that Narmaya is still the only playable female draph in the game. And we got Gallanza for a grand total of 3 male draphs.
>>573754152Nah it's my fault for still using the old terminus builtSwitching to defender nowMay host it if I'm failed to clear it again
>>573754939>Crux Gran>Essence Sieg, Insight Sandal, Still figuring out a 4thOffline/single-player kind of guy. Only time I touched online was back in base game for proto baha. 200% likely I'm running unoptimal builds but I've somehow avoided failing the DLC story parts, although I expect infinity bosses will wreck my shit
We need GW in Relink.
>>573754939I've been enjoying Io quite a bit so farI'll likely swap Magli out for Fed for my farming party since I want to eventually play Fed when I'm not running Io. But mats are scarce right now.
>get the DLC and get back into the game>I like Eustace so I unlock him and start playing>Fast forward a few days later and decide now would be a good time to start levelling up other characters>Everything fall aparts the moment the boss start to zoom around the arena at light speed>They zoom around the arena at light speed ALL THE FUCKING TIMEHow do you guys deal with this fucking shit? Playing a ranged character made me forget that pain.
>>573735513Do you mind sharing your build? or masteries
Damn I forgot how much fun this game was
>Even Rosetta can break 500mil on Score AttackBIG BUFFS
is there any reason to run luci sigils in chaos ++ and onwards?
How fat is that endgame, Daddy
>>573755953I have a mighty need
Stop running leyline Io, I beg you...
>>573756467no, especially since you can get summons with luci sigils
>>5737543983/4
I just realized there's now a button to unlock all mastery tree nodes
You can't play Fagcelot properly because his fucking normal attacks are SO SHORT, you can't reach the boss most of the time. It's really annoying. Dash spamming seems like the optimal way to play this fag.
>>573757039Yeah his x just doesn't connect a whole lotI'm just gonna play yoda at this point
>>573756886full?
>>573754958Not even close.
What's a good quest to spam for berserker echo +s?i'm doing chaos++ luci for now because almost all of the postgame quests don't fucking drop it
>>573756012I play Charlotta so I'm just constantly on the boss non-stop cause I'm a fucking flying beyblade.
>>573757742In quest, try now
I am just about to finish Maniac difficulty. Just hit 100 and ascended a weapon, but I have a few pain points.1) MSP is so fucking required for everything. The mastery talent things are insanely powerful but it's painful committing to a character and putting in the 30k or whatever to max it out2) I'm really confused as to why SBA don't do more damage than link time. It feels like they are "ultimate abilities" but they're more just like big CC abilities that still don't end up doing as much as Linku Timu.3) It's really annoying how janky the boss stagger animations are during SBA. I'm like trying to attack a weak point but it keeps standing up and falling over during all the billion particle effects. It's annoying missing the final hit of my combo as Gran and missing out on the Arts level.4) Why tf does Break exist? The game says shit like NOW'S OUR CHANCE!!! but the boss just gets up? It's not like actual CC or damage like SBA or Link Time. It's just a big stagger? Why is there special voice lines and on-screen text like it's a big deal?
>>573756012Glass cannon build for range charsTank build for melee charsProblem solved
>>573756886Still 3/4
Is there anything good online for builds? Trying to get Tweyen build going to clear proud
>>573745746i quit playing after the summer stream where they announced paid gacha alts of eternals/evokers and paid gacha collab charactersi used cream api for endless ragnarok and i will continue to do so for whatever dlc and updates they dropcygames will never get another cent out of me
>>573758257Spam the Slime quest if you need an injection of MSPSomeone ranged can just mash X and aggro everything for your NPCs to kill if you're doing it alone
>>573754398>8PFS 9WFT 6YKT A5KLIt's not there
I keep failing Inf Hexa :(
>>573758861>i quit playing after the summer stream where they announced paid gacha alts of eternals/evokers and paid gacha collab charactersI'm f2p (maybe pay a couple of thousand bucks/year) but I have the most of them. Just spark them or get lucky.
>>573759956I can't even beat luci
>>573734383Any other Beatrix users here thinks she's very fun but not very strong? Using the clock is janky as hell too
>>573760061
>>573760232yeah she's definitively low tier, her damage on paper is average but in reality it's below average because of how shit the uptime of her mechanic is on anything that isn't a dummy
Is there a new better way to farm terminus weapon? Is it still the best weapon? I want to try one of the new characters but not sure if I should just push through the new content with my main first to make it more efficient.
>>573760652you just run baha a few times and craft it now, and then get all the upgrade materials from a quick conflux run
Its fair game to mod in a way to squash some of the synthesis rng because savescumming is boring as sin
>>573760397What is the best skill tree perk for her
How do I get Playstation controls on steam? It's still showing me Xbox button prompts
>>573760730doto would say this
>>573760397>>573760232I'm not even sure she's that fun, the clock mechanic is shit, and she's all about using it to buff herself and spam a skill into a canned combo loop that doesn't even hit that hard
>>573754939fedielbuffer rosetta, abuse goblin siegfried. I don't have a 4th built capable of endgame yet so I just use a rental of whoever I haven't seen much of. it used to be vaseraga but I'm disappointed in his masteries and he's dogshit as a bot anyway
>>573734383Is Charlotta still broken as hell?
>>573761168yes
What are people basing Beatrix low damage on? Compared to Fediel? She does fine damage
>>573761068I enjoyed her for a little bit but she's extremely bland after a while, the whole clock mechanic just feels terrible since she's not a real character outside of it anyway.
If Fediel isn't the strongest character in the game I'll be shocked
>>573760889Title screen -> Game Options -> User Interface
>>573761338As it should be, I liked that they nerfed her spammable Noble Combo and she's still top tier, atta' girl
>>573761378
>>573761649Spellspam...strong
>>573761649Ranged sissies shouldn't be this strong in this game.
Honestly is fraux's slow inflicting skill even worthwhile? It's got infinite range but slow either doesn't work or it does work but it makes the fight worse because a boss now has a lingering hitbox attack.
>>573761649One battle isn't a large sample size. I'll wait for an actual tier list
>>573753162I wish relink looked half as good as the fighting game. The fighting game music also utterly mogs relink's mid soundtrack.
>>573761507Holy fuck THANK YOU
>>573761567That's cause every other character is slow and clunky apart from Yodarha and Lancelot, while Charlotta, Yoda and Lancelot just rapid slash and shit out damage numbers non-stop.
Fediel trivalize the game, I kick them out of my lobbies.
>world done in twoI'm expecting equally easy fights from the rest of the infinites...
>>573762137I play her and the dps meter always looks like that, she gets completely mogged by pretty much everyone who shows up commonly, the only way to even it out is by completely ignoring all boss attacks and healing through it with potions, which won't work in infinity.
>>573762219So if her game isn't spamming Noble-finisher-attack-noble now what is it? Please say she gets to just fucking extend her Invuln
>>573762374The world is the easiest since he's technically less tanky because of the Perfect Guard gimmick
>>573762404Well, do you still enjoy her despite being the lowest on the DPS meter?
>>573762531In turn, if you don't perfect block him every other dash he's about the same, yeah?We only blocked him thrice during first phase and entered the egg with 8 stacks.
>>573762531What's the gimmick?
So which of the original relink characters won the most with the balance changes and the mastery trees?Who's the biggest loser?
>>573762468You CAN still spam the Plunge Finisher. It DOES hit hard but it's slower than the spin and it obviously doesn't follow bosses across the entire map. That and Noble Order Master Trait wants you spamming the X/Square button until you hit Noble Order 5 for max damage and THEN do plunge finishers. And sometimes you have to just sit there mashing the attack button to keep your Y button ready for parries cause avoiding damage is now more important than before cause all her damage stacks fall off if you get hit by anything and you can't just brute-force it by facetanking all the damage during your slow-ass Plunge Finishers now. There's no reason to take the Invincible extension tree cause you are already Invincible half the time from your parry anyway + the other 2 trees give you way more damage. So you're back to just spamming X button again now.
>>573762791Nah not really, being a pure DPS character who does shit damage isn't fun and her gameplay is pretty one note, going to build someone else now.
>>573762856What skills do you run on her now with the new changes?
>>573762847If you perfect guard quickening it reflects back to him and does a bunch of damage and instantly stuns him
>>573762847Perfect block his red line charge and you get a free link attack and deal gigabuffed damage.You can't get link attacks any other way essentially.
>>573762991HUHGuess I should stop parrying and start learning to block
>>573762927Holy Ladder, Blade of Lumiel, Invincible, ATK Buff.
>ParsingYou guys actually do that?
How viable is playing as a solo character? Like how many exceptions would you have to make
i cant see shit in some of these fights, they went absolute hard on the special effects, it's why Gallanza's rematch was so fucking frustrating to me
>>573763138WoW brainrot ruined arpgs forever, anon
>>573763149no AI?pretty impossible once you get far enough in.you won't have the damage for dps checks, and can't get the damage because you'll be progression walled.
>>573763138tourist asmongold ruined this game community by larping it was an MMO
I check DPS meter every run.I add shit players with no damage to the International Blacklist and post it on a few Discord servers.>i le play 4 fun xd Shitters will be severely punished.If you don't want to be known as a shitter ruiner, you better do some good damage.Otherwise the committee will seal your fate, retards.
>>573762991>You can't get link attacks any other way essentially.With stun power he staggers reasonably enough but it is notably slower than other fights before or after him
>>573763252>>573763359I mean I remember when that shit started to infect fucking Monster Hunter of all things so I guess I don't really have any rights to act surprised.
>>5737443691/4
>>573763635might have been a party issue then?I've been rocking 318 since it was brought up yesterday and didn't notice much gain.
>>573763749Anon you played like 4 hours and can still go?
>>573763732streaming culture forced hyper-optimization down everyones throats and now you cant go 2 seconds without someone calling a brand new character low tier because they can't obliterate a boss in sub-10 minutes
>>573763802Fun game is fun>>5737443693/4
At the start of proud++ and tested my damage removing all 3 luci sigils (keeping dmg cap at Lv.65 of course) and i lost 5.5% damage. that's probably not worth 3 half-slots at this point.
>>573763775Probably party issue I guessWe got 3 link times/primal bursts on him on the 2nd try once we weren't dying left and right
>>573763907I saw people saying this about Fediel on day one
>>573763907>streaming culturetrying to optimize your dps has been around for decades
>Sandal player is a total fucking faggotFigures
What's the tier list? I don't want to waste time on low tiers.
>>573764708>low tieryour favorite characters>high tiermine
>>573764604Not like this. Minmax autism was relegated to forums and Gamefaqs guides. Breaking a game was seen as a form of mastery over and mainly for fun. Now you *have* to do the best thing always or you get complaints in a multiplayer lobby
>>573764775can you even chat in this game? also these endgame quests necessitate a little minmaxing, they fail to timeouts pretty often right now
>>573763918On a quest? Would you guys be willing to progress through Chaos++ from the top with me?
>>573764923You can win with any character in Relink so long as your power is up to date so its not the biggest deal
>>573763138Just to find out if my own damage improved in actual fights cause the dummy doesn't mean shit
>>573763138it would be more surprising if people didn't parse, this game is so MMO adjacent
ShotaGODS won the Zetabowl bigly
>>573764952Join up
Rapist for the next expansion
>>573765408in
Any narmaya main?Need some good party combination
>>573734383Update the FAQ
what does the "Debuffs on self: DMG taken +50% /" etc EX node actually do? do you just explode and get owned when you get debuffed, or is that a debuff that gets applied to you?
how do i farm conflux 5 faster it's such a slog
>>573741121>>573741570what combo do you use to generate SBA with cog?
>>573754398GGs good runs, Bubz a bitch for taking two link times from us
>>573766063means every damage taken by you will be 150%
>>573766063You die hard, really the worst part is how much more easily you get pulled in by gimmick orbs.
>>573766581ggs bros
did this fucking niggers REMOVE the other treasure trades from the Silver Centrums? i still had beaks and axes to trade worth at least 3 or so uncap levelsi LITERALLY farmed those skellys for HOURS just for THAT and now im limited to FUCKING COINS and FUCKING GOLD BADGES for themFUCK
How is Seigfried faring in Ragnarok? I hear mixed things about him.
>have seen 2 Ghandagoza players since ER release>both have been MVP with ridiculous amount of HonorsI think Ghanda mains are hiding the secret tech...
can u not put the hood back up on fraux? seems like an easy "extra" outfit to make
>>573767128people are realizing he had good damage and supportthe main thing people are bitching about is his mastery styles are janky bullshitstyle 1 is hilariously impractical, do 7 full perfect executions to get a mini-linktime effect where you can spam itstyle 2 is marginally better (both in practicality and in damage output) but it plays almost exactly the same as style 1. get to 5 stacks for significantly reduced skill cooldownsstyle 3 is substitution botting, but it's comfy because it makes his counter good and lets you tardwangle. despite this, it needs another way to build stacks (such as landing parries)both styles 1/2 are also very picky about what counts as "failing a perfect attack", since anons have reported that cancelling a chain with dodging has led to the buff dropping
>>573767128For better or worse, Sieg feels like his masteries were made with him as an AI party member in mind, rather than someone actually playing as him.
>>573767402Stinky lich
Beatrix's walking animation makes my peepee hard
Hello fellas. I've come back to relink after playing the OG for a fair bit. I only got to the OG faaggot, not the new super version. I never did grind the Alpha, Beta and Gamma sigil though.Do I need an endgame build to go through the DLC stuff or can I go with my almost finished character from before the DLC? My Naru/Yoda were fighting faa so they're fairly well built.Also any new sigil stuff I should be on the look out for now? Or should I just not worry about any of that until I do the DLC?
>>573767962Knowing she's likely been instant lossed by countless goblins and used as their broodsow makes me hard.
>>573768294If you have a terminus wep you're good to go. Swap to a defender when you unlock transcendence
>no trophy for phaseskipping all of Conflux BubsOh well.
>>573768294no need, go straight to dlccelestial lumen replaces staminacelestial ventus and fatebreaker are musts, aqua is really good toocelestial terra later on is like tyranny buy for damage capSpartan echo is good, transcend a non terminus and get 80k HP for it asap
>>573768575How are people killing him in just a minute?
>>573768301>goblinsno, they were mad max harvins
>>573768605>Have full terminus (Player only, not needed for AI)>Walk in with full link>Stun him>????>SBA
>>573768634I've seen porn of both. Regardless she's prime breeding stock for monsters and crooks.
>>573766508XYY. The shortest spear combo is the fastest SBA gain. I guess nowadays you press collapse afterwards for XYY->Y. Make sure to dodge cancel the animation after the XYY
FUCKING WAKE UP ALREADYAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
>>573769228>>573766508XY Guard Cancel XY repeat generates more SBA
Might be a dumb question but what does def actually do, is there an easy way to check how much I got and how does it stack with damage cut and stout heart's damage reduction?
>>573769228i've not noticed a considerable delay going XYY->Y but i can try dodge cancelling it, the collapse is nice for the DEF down>>573769341will try that too thanks
>>573769518>gay dads taking their daughters out for red golem sighting
>>573768450>>573768594Aigh cool.How's Siete? I have him at 100 but he seems to have less sigil slots, I don't remember if I'm missing something else.
>>573769361it reduces damageyes it stacks
>>573769726You have to do his fate story to unlock the rest of his slots.He's great and fun.
Alright there is no way I'm reading this right, Captain's crux path gives him a passive that grants 5-8% dmg per level and it stacks up to 10 times. I haven't seen a single captain blow up bosses even with that passive stacked, so I'm assuming that either that shit straight up doesn't work or cygames is doing some jank bullshit and its somehow counted against the damage cap
The camera on some fights while locked on is still ass on some fights but especially on the new p. Baha. I need to lock on to the crystals to hit them but if I do I literally only see the skybox.
Do summon equip stats?Say I have a summon that give me 25% normal attack dmg cap, can I slap another one on top of it from another slot?
>>573770138You have like 3000 damage cap, what's an extra 50 going to do?
>>573770473Its specifically listed as "...also grants DMG dealt +5% per effect level" not DMG cap, which unless I'm mistaken is the same wording used for celestial ventus which does go overcap
>game kinda runs like shit on a gtx 1060ive been priced out forever.....
>>573770685Puny 2x damage isn't even close to what charlotta can put out
>>573770685Sometimes dmg dealt is just damage before cap. It's super confusing.
ggs bro
>>573771173GGsThe world is giving me headache especially the moving ball
>>573770414yes, check "summon effect" or something, if you equip multiple of the same ones it'll show the sum instead of individual
>>573771046As a rule of thumb, if it’s damage dealt and it’s not new in ER, or from a character specific sigil that gives a buff effect in battle for doing something, it doesn’t affect the cap.
>>573771368Naissu, thanks
>>573771046Man if thats the case, with how easy it is to cap damage that makes it useless as hell. Might as well do essence path since combat medic stacks at least gives dmg cap and veil is probably a better safety net than substitute's dmg cut
>>573771230some bosses are like that sometimes.
Do you need to do Bubs everytime in Conflux 5 to get the full rewards?He wasn't particularly hard, but that was an annoying fight that took quite a while.
>>573765434Not after Roland finds out what happened at Europa Castle, and why she needed to bring all those 15 year old danchous there for the "parties" she was hosting...
this game easy to pirate? need a monhun fix but the check aint coming for another week
>>573765434Don't look into the Europa Castle logs...
>>573744369Still 3/4
>>573771604yeah but eventually you'll be able to one cycle him by opening with sba
>>573771046No wait it actually does work I forget you can actually summon party members to get hit by sir barrold in the practice room. Well I know my gear and playstyle is unoptimal as all hell but shouldn't people who actually know what they're doing be popping off with a goddamn 1.8x multiplier on all their damage?
Beatrix's Level 3 trait for Devour mode refilling it upon hits makes it's drain feel less shit and gives good uptime.
does the camera go to shit during boss fights? I feel like the right stick doesnt work during that "Omen stone" event
>Somehow managed to run out of large fortitude crystalOh shid, what's the best source of these again? Game list succession of dragons but that shit takes too fucking long for what it offers
>>573772989maniac quest called so these are the rumoured monsters
>>573772989Just farm chaos++ quests as they drop a decent amount of those and have a chance of dropping useful summons
>>573773054Dhangs!>>573773160I'm currently focusing on upgrading a whole bunch of weapons so I'd rather just plain farm those fuckers for peace of mind.
I feel this is kind of meh
Reminder that after every quest chests respawn on the 2 Hubs. And they contain good stuff and most importantly Fortitude Crystal LWhich you will need a fuckton to max your weapons, do NOT sleep on it
Hexa's pretty fun when you meet the stat check, the debuff condition is tough to clear though.
played the demo and now i remember that I actually do like granblue a lot despite my many many grievances with the mobile gamefug, man, my brains ruined forever
CAN IJUST FUCKING ONCEGET A CHAOS++ THE WORLD RUNWITHOUT SOME FUCKHEAD GIVING THE WORLD THE JUSTICE BUFF ON A SILVER FUCKING PLATTERTHOSE SWORDS ARE FAR FUCKING WORSE THAN THE DOT FROM DEVIL OR THE BUBBLES FROM JUDGEMENT
>>573774016>dotNah. I hate having to roll away from the orbs.Just don't get hit too much as a party and the swords never land.
>>573744369GGsThanks brosYes I think bubz fight is kino even though I keep dying
>>573773681this except i hate granblue, but love monhun-likes
Any characters that are particularly strong at slime farming?Beatrix is okay but not great, I wanna see if I have someone else I could maybe use instead for more kills
>>573774429every character with range attackeugen > rackam / eustace > id
This shit keeps showing up on my feed. How grindy is this game?
bros I'm fuckin sick of slimeblasting already...
>>573770797>literally anyone being poorer than me with a GTX 1650You HAVE to be a brown third worlder to be THAT POOR.
>Io is the magical equivalent of Great Swordoh my god
>>573774508
>>573774508Main story? Walking in the parkPost story? Very, expect 200 hours of grind, but with dlc you can shorten it to 10 ~ 20 hoursDLC? VeryDLC post-story? Extreme
>>573774508this is an ARPG minmax autism guide from the people that made the grindiest JRPG alivethe main story is barely even early game
>>573774639>>573774680>>573774769I see...
What's the deal with all these sandy mains floor tanking?Do they just not take off their Ain+ sigil in chaos+ and beyond?
Someone explain the death card mechanics to meWhy is everyone ignoring it when it kills everyone if it counts down to 0
>>573774562take a break and do some postgame quests for materials you need, the later ones give some good direct msp and you can make a decent amount of msp if you trade in the summons you don't need
So if I hit the training dummy and it goes over 100% it means I need more damage cap right?
>>573775083yes
>>573775213cag is so precious in relink I could actually die
>>573774920i think people are unironically just not paying attention to the number above the card or realizing that the death card is an instant death mechanic
Anyone has some good autism steamie controller profile for Relink?
>>573775384>one of the best designs in granblue>make it a guywhy
>>573775713so people don't wanna fuck the little girl. didn't work
>>573775607i use a dualsense edge but i have a back button set on dodge and another set to mash light attacksi guess if u mash heavy attacks set one to that too
>>573775713she hasn't been a boy for 2000 years...
>>573775713>perfectly normal girl>anon thinks of dudessounds like you failed the gay test bro
>>573774619https://youtu.be/YjqCzFhDYo4?si=87iDhCxslhHRTln4oh god
I finally got the chance to play this I think I'm mildly disappointed >missions I expected an expanded story thread, but it is mostly post post post game missions so far. oh well >builds I heard they were working on build varieties, but all I see is game mechanics doubling down on damage caps harder than ever before. what gives?
sex with ferry
I'm enjoying the game but desu this feels like $10 dlc disguised as $30 xpac. Aside from new character it's just recycled content from old stages, maybe there will be more later idk.
>>573776329small indie company
I'm starting to think I'll need to use ai companions for the world at this rate holy fucking hell
>>573776293>>573776329you've both got itI expected actual story stuff. new stages, etcit's just arenas with bosses in themI still like it but I'm definitely disappointed it isn't more like the base game. the few new fights (excluding sea life) are REALLY sick but there's just not many. the juiced up old fights are ok, I actually like the new managarmr
>>573776428The World was the easiest for me to clear. All the other bosses were way worse. The World didn't feel nearly as one-shotty.
>>573776329we will LIKELY get some free post release content like the original game did.it's free but you really just already paid for it.
I wanna give Zeta a shot but I have no fucking clues how she work, can I get a basic bitch rundown?Like what's the gameplan? What skills are good on her?
Newcutie here. Am completely overwhelmed and confused what to do.>Just killed proto bahamut>currently working on ascending my terminus weapon>look up build guides>YOU NEED A SIGIL WITH B SIGIL WITH C SIGIL WITH D SIGIL WITH WITH WITHPlease give me a simple, no bullshit path of progression for me to do for my eventual bis build. I feel so burnt out thinking about the future.What content do I do? In what order? What do I farm?Thanks
>>573736280>yodarha>can now do perfect inputs to get his shortest combo>can now spam multiple combo finishers in a row to get his shortest comboHe feels so easy to play now...
>>573776674farm conflux tier 4 and pick the transcend materials to transcend one of your weapons to level 3.try and clear the rank up quest to get into chaos.farm the 2nd and 3rd chaos fight to get a spartan echo sigil, maybe with a useful second mod if you can but any spartan echo sigil is good.equip spartan echo and your level 3 transcended weapon and then maybe put on an aegis sigil to get 100k HP.remember to unlock the passive weapon mastery stat bonuses from your transcended weapon because they give very valuable stats.that's it, you're ready to beat chaos and chaos+.
>>573776915thank you
I just had a cheater on Infinity The World, the critical Bar depleted 20 times slower. Only noticed cause one of the player literally stood there without mashing and i could see how slowly the bar moved, near unlimited.
need divine marks of shame for video game cheaters
>>573776502The issues isn't his one shotsThe issue is everyone in co op is a fucking retard. I'm not any fucking better being a dumbass still using alphas and gammas and sub 150k hp but fucking hell I tend to do better than most in the fucking coop pool.
>playing through base game by brute forcing with zeta>didn't invest anything in anyone else>unga bunga everything up until maniac>slowly trudging through now >until Maggy stops me>no matter how much I dodge, she always end up killing AI Io enough times to full drain the critical bar around 20%>give up and finally try the ragnarok add ons>recruit fediel>do conflux 3 twice>suddenly everyone skipped 10 levels to the levelp cap>also have maxed out weapons for Zeta and Fediel>go back to Maggy>bully her like she bullied Io It doesn't feel like winning...
>>573777048I remember not too long ago, before Ragnarok was announced you just couldn't play online without running into at least one chink who had some absurd cheats, infinite life, infinite stun, infinite damage, infinite cock in your ears, you name it they had it.Was kind of insane how there was like a couple hundred players, and at least half of them were chink on meth
Am i just bad, im not doing nearly enough damage playing maglielle after testing sir barrold
>>573776129>what if greatsword could animation skip its entire movesetHoeeeh
>>573776596Jump and goes brrrrrr
>>573777461You're gonna make it brah
It only took 40-50 runs
>>573777461sir barrold ignores damage cap, you actually dealt way lesser than you thought during normal playthrough
>>573776329>6 new characters in total>about 30 bosses, a good half are reskins but they have new attacks and animations making you learn their patterns again>roguelite modeidk seems pretty filled for 30$
>>573744369Is this lobby closed?
Are the heal->shield masteries supposed to be god awful? I'm getting 1210 per tick on Maglielle's.
>>573777581>SBA damage cap>35%Back to the mines.
>>573777547im trying at least>>573777584I mean compared to other characters ive played to this point or maybe defender is just really bad
>>573777679was over like 3 hours ago
>>573777797Won't stop until I get one with 50% normal attack DMG
how do you pirate this shit on linux, it just sucks at reading DLLs i guess
>>573777581Is stout heart behemoth only?
>>573777885Can't beat the djeet
>>573778116Haven't seen it on anything else yet
>>573778116Someone posted a dragon from the 4 dragon chaos++ fight
>>573778116Does it really matter when none of you use summons anyway?
Magbros please tell me how to play her? What combo gives the most SBA gauge and damage and how the fuck do I get her finisher to actually hit the enemy because I really can't tell if I'm pointing it on top of the enemy or just short of them with the garbage camera in this game.
>>573778293Hey!I'm getting into the habit of it.Enjoy your new potions.
>>573776329I get why you feel that way but i'd say 30$ price tag is still worth as a wholeYeah base game story suck ass but at least the execution is great to make me play it, here its mainly lore yap and some yapping from characters that this beelzebub guy feels like just some random strong nigga from a portal especially to someone who never played the gacha game like me he is way less memorable than lilith The world and hexa fights are amazing though wish there are 2 more new bosses arround that quality maybe we get 1 later like lucillus
>>573756645This Io mod doesn't work anymore, right?
>>573778712Bubz is... Quite the thing, honestly.
>>573778712>is beelzebub guy feels like just some random strong nigga from a portal especially to someone who never played the gacha game like me he is way less memorable than lilithIf you really wanna get him you can just play base Versus story mode.
>wrong threadThis is the issue with having 3 different relink threads up...>>573778705>>573778663Give him the shotgun mastery and he works fine in melee range.It's only an issue if you're Eugen/Io and I guess Fediel?
https://youtu.be/jK8iWar93oI?si=c_E30hu1nw7d0qNwYes I know its a dummy but she does deal liketwice as much damage as anyone else to the dummy
>>573778974she is literally not inteded to do thatShe is getting fixed the very first patch
>>573778712Bubz is a dumb fucking character. He and Gran/Djeeta share the exact same power of plot importance, literally. As in the universe needs them to fulfill their journey in order to function. Seofon also has this power, but only because some dickwads made a virtual universe where he had the power, and since metaphysics or some shit can't tell the difference between a simulated universe and a real universe he was able to rip and tear his way into reality God i hate the Singularitygod I HATE THE BLUE--i got off track
>finally beat The World>the easiest variant>because 3 people dc'd at the start and gave me ai companions with pretty solid sigil setups even though one was running a "cannot be healed" sigil >these bots actually did mechanics right with one actually perfect blocking the right attacks to stun him, getting rid of problematic arcana and not ignoring cards, and when death and judgement came up one slapped judgment to keep it from bubble spamming while 2 others and myself slapped the death card to death2 days of this.
>>573778712the story of the expansion feels weird. there's like 3 or 4 plot lines going on and all of them feel undercooked.The ragnalia are happening, ok. Expansion is called ragnarok, makes sense.There's the conflux wth bubz in it, ok? Seems unrelated.There's the world who didn't cause the ragnalia, just happens to use them for his own plan, uuuuuh.And then there Fediel who just really really REALLY wants to see a couple fuck.I am still ast the start of chaos++ so maybe it ties together more later.So far it is just a couple of excuses for fediel and fraux to be there and i guess to justify the individual bosses later.And i honestly don't give too much of a shit about it. I just wanna beat up cool bosses with cool characters.
wheres the mod that gives me infinite silvers
>>573779386Relink has this issue where the original story was written like 10 years before any of the weird characters show up so the Evokers and the Six dragons feel really out of place
>>573779386Everything is tied into the fediel thing.
>>573778293You don't have to use summons for the traits and equip bonuses to work, retard
>>573778293Speak for yourself I enjoy running over Siete and Song during link time with Quakadile.
aint this character like 8 years old? Thats fucking weird and toxic
Comments on my setup? I'm losing to the next equivalent Mag (M20) by like double the honours. Or do I just need to get good?
>>573779386>And then there Fediel who just really really REALLY wants to see a couple fuck.You don't?
If I hit like 200% or something that means I need more damage cap right?I already remove tyranny and stamina yet it still hits more than 200%, which is bugging me
Where's your DMG Cap
>>573779443That's the reason why I skip everything in xpac. In base relink I could enjoy story as it's own thing but when Fraux showed up and we didn't know her I stopped caring.
>>573779324AIs in this game are, for the most part, better than the largest portion of the playerbase. They'll perfect dodge/guard everything no sweat and can usually handle the mechanics.
>>573779661Meant for >>573779598
>>573779386>>573779613Fediel is odd but when you consider she's part of the same group where a dragon turns into a cat and tries to seduce humans, she's not that weird
>>573779586She is 11 and that is actually BASED
alright I lost on seofon and tweyen and couldn't pass any dps checks with a fully ascended terminus. do I have to just get carried by randos online or what because I don't really understand how to get any stronger than I am currently
>>573779665STINKY LICHSMELLY GIRL>>573779754Ewiyar just want to do fuckall while the world handle everything to her on a silver plate.That's why she went with being a cat.
>>573779443Honestly it kinda baffles me they went with evoker and 6D reps first over Zodiacs who already existed by the time Relink was conceived. But I guess that group doesn't have an overarching boss like The World/Hexa so there's less reason for them to show up in an arpg
>>573779887They couldve come up with something, zodiacs are all based off of fighting game characters so it wouldve been real easy to think up movesetsthough a 3d Terry bogard might be difficult..
>>573779661So still try to get good old damage cap to 65? Or do I start using stuff like Celestial Terras into the setup?
After being an Io main the entire base game, I thought I'd turn off easy mode and actually play a melee character for Endless Ragnarok. But Narm is hard...
>>573779887>>573779973I wanted monkey so fucking badly
>>573780123Narm is a god in the hands of a master and floortank in the hands of anyone else.
>>573780243>Everyone in Rising is begging for monkey>Lots of people in Relink begging for monkeyI want dog...
>>573779987Yes. You should also take a look at your summons, weapon's wrightstone and transcend skills cause those can save you a lot of sigil slots if you get some good combinations.
>>573777616the roguelike mode is rushed as fuck let's not kid ourselves
>>573780341Rising already has their zodiacs!
I just want Nier...
>>573777616>>573780404rougelite mode is tacked on and reminds me of xenoblade shoving its endgame progression onto random bullshit but the bosses are the main appeal and theyre all good
I'm sad that my ascension weapon immediately outperforms my defender, I took a liking to the basic first weapon becoming really good but then supernova happens. It also doesn't help that my character's ascension weapon is one of the ugliest in the game.
>>573780246I am packing my obligatory Guts and Autorevive to minimize how much of a burden I am to the team while I progress up the difficulties, at least. But I fully understand why the floortanking happens. Blue -> Red finisher is unsafe as fuck yet also the higher damaging option, and the amount of damage you receive in ER is really unfriendly to the Stout Heart tanking she encourages you to do to make sure you don't get interrupted. I imagine if you have a ton of fight knowledge she can get away with her flow way smoother though.
Man Gallanza, Bea and Eustace the don't exist online. It's either still primarily all Songs, Narmaya's, Charlotta's, and a lot of a Sandy's. Don't people get tired of using these characters? Of the new characters it's mostly all Fraux's and Magi's but they are still out numbered by all the fucking Songs. Why do so many people use her?
>>573780243>>573780341any zodiac wouldve been an ease shoe-in it's actually so fucking disappointing they opted for more society slop "because uhm actually players are gonna expect groups to all be filled out"even if they do add a zodiac it's gonna be a fucking shill pick vikala
>>573779973Tigers might be tricky just for the dual character thing.But I'd play them no matter how jank.
I suck at parrying and Infinity The World is hilarious, either takes a good while to kill or fucking exploded after two chains if someone has the timing down.
>>573779987Yeah. You have so much DMG in ER even without any DMG traits that you HAVE to max every DMG Cap source you can
is Tweyen any good? I recall people didn't like her because Luci was immune to debuffs.
Wait the eternals only have 2 weapons? Does that mean they're a bit handicapped compared to the rest of the cast?
>>573780507It's weird seeing zero Gallanza at all. I was excited to try him, but he has no presence.
>>573780507I feel like it's time dependent since I've seen a bunch of Eustaces and Gallanzas around Chaos+/++ when I was progressing 2 days ago. Today is nothing but nip Fedis and Magis though so I'm guessing most of these are just metaslaves. Out of the OG cast I haven't seen a single Ferry player yet, and I've seen 2 Danchous and a Ghanda already
>>573780808At this point I've seen everyone but Ghanda/Lanc.Ferry is at 3 I think
>>573780798After playing gallanza a lot he is peak fun, at first he just seemed "unga but shit" but his masteries kind of saved him, specifically the one for the spin, getting to refresh deathmatch that easily and his spin getting iframes on finishers really let to just go to town on shitHOWEVER, despite everything I said... he's probably still low tier, or worse. His damage is -really- bad. Even with max stacks of the spin buff it's just... completely pathetic damage compared to most the characters. I saw a few videos of the skill mastery vs a training dummy that did... a tiny bit better but it was still really bad, plus that build is shit, his skills are WAY too slow and clunky to try to do an entire mastery setup off it.It's still QUITE fun to literally face tank late game bosses most characters can barely exist in front of like belz but its hard to ignore that awful damage. Maybe his issue is literally all of his warpath/personal sigils suck, idk.
>>573780507I'm shocked anyone is still playing Sandy, he feels so fucking weak now and all of his Mastery Traits feel awful
>>573780808I haven't seen Katalina and Rosetta in a while too
>have to do so many fights without a weapon upgrade in sight because the devs think it's funny to make you have to wait for a fully upgraded ascWhy
>>573780507>galanzabottom 5 character>Beanot unga enough, betrayed her design with the clock>eustaceliterally NO ONE wanted this character in the gameMaglielle is the #1 most popular new character, with fediel only catching up because everyone's hearing that she's overpowered
>>573780690She seems better now since other than Faa all of the bosses can be debuffed
>>573780507I have met a grand total of 2 Eustaces, and I play him myself.From the new characters, all I see are Maglielles and Fraux, though now the Fediels are picking up in force, I'm guessing the spirit bomb shenanigans are starting to spread far and wide.
>>573780971Eh, damage isn't everything and Vane is shining a lot right now due to how fuckin unkillable he is. Though he is offsetting his lower damage with rampart and party buffs.
>>573781072You also get Fediel at a pretty high ML and her AI is pretty fucking good with the Spirit Bomb build
>>573781087vane may not do crazy damage but he def outdamages galanza
>>573781057>wantedTrue.Take him away though and I'll cry.Most fun character they've released
I thought that stout heart was fixed for the AI, I thought that they would actually still keep their godlike dodging so I can offload that shit to a summon and gain back a sigil slot. Hell it looked like it too I saw them dodge luci's patterns perfectly. Then I fought the wind dragon as part of the gauntlet and it casually blew wind at all 3 of the AI while I had substitute on. They all blankly stared at me and stood there charging their attacks while I evaporated into auto-revive. Guts didn't even proc I just died thats how much spite the game was throwing my way and I'm not even sure anymore if its stout heart, the HP they finally have now that I've built them somewhat, or because i was covering for them.
>Get Bea to Tier 3 Mastery trait>Clock now refills upon hits in Devour Casualty mode so you stay in it longerThank fuck.
>have been maining Bea since the expansion came out and have tonnes of fun>unlock Fraux through the story>the DMC5 Balrog enjoyer in me wants to get her caught up with my team and maybe even switch to maining herThe Conflux mines are calling me...
>>573781072what's the idea of eustace, just mash X for piss poor normal shot damages until you can use skills or heavy ammo? i tried him out and it felt lackluster but maybe i'm playing him wrong
>>573780507I run a parcer, came across a couple of 50M5* Eustaces and they topped the score, still loss to Fediel went present tho
>>573764708
>>573780492You can reskin the weapons.
>>573781394Hey, seig is really nice if the CPU uses him...god I hate how FUCKED his masteries are
You don't see Bea/Eustace alot because it takes a while to upgrade and transcend all their weapons and I hate the fact that I still need to 3 SBA/kill angra mainyu/versa for some of these stages like cmon Cygames
>>573781334Camp the bosses feet and charge shotgun blasts into him.Strafe shot and tap firing is extremely low dps, and should only be used as a gap closer, or a dodge with pink/purple bullets.He's very blinding though.If you've played the gacha, it's like having grimnir attack with a billion echoes
>>573781334Start blasting. That's literally it, blast, BLAST MAN BLAST.Personally I play him with charged flamek, slow kill, the reload that give free heavy bullets and the parry, the plan is to use the everloving shit out of the parry on everything I can to get as much heavy bullet as I can.With his masteries, he gain stacks of "charged flamek" every time I blow a fat load of heavy bullet into the boss' gaping maw, on level 3 he gain a full "magazine" of fuck-you ammo that literally look like an orbital laser strike but from a wheel lock gun.Supposedly, he has a whole mastery tree that is also dedicated to his dodge skill, but dodging with a skill instead of the normal dodge feels mega janky to me so I couldn't tell you what it's worth.
>>573781550if you do the single player mode its basically designed to rush you through old mats like that, one run can basically equate to 10-15 various old boss kills
>>573781394The fuck happened to Zeta?
>>573781618new systems didn't help her at all + can't consistently keep up air loops vs late game shit + her cute gimmick of being the ultimate CPU character was taken away
>>573780507I've seen all 3 multiple times.
>>573781394Move Rosetta up she's pretty much like Cog who shits out buffs and debuffs and heals >Katalina in MidLiterally how? No like seriously I've never seen anyone run her so I don't know if she's actually as good as Yoda/Percy/Gran
>>573781603>magazine of fuck-you ammoHave you noticed refilling your mag with the counter or refill skill maintains that buff?Proc lvl3>refill>counter>link attackgives you four mags of pure purple.I found it really high rolly though and I can't dodge for shit sometime
>>573781690kat's damage is really bad BUT she can keep up team wide invincibility for a pretty comical amount of time, not a bad gimmick to havealso rosetta is def better now but she is DEFINITELY not on cag's level, she is the uncontested support god
>>573781328Her Mastery "On the Clock" tree is so fucking clunky. However her Devour Mastery Tree than gains gauge upon hits while in the unga mode (at level 30) feels pretty alright if you stick with her.
>>573781738Yeah, if I feel I can line those up I definitely will.Whenever that happens, I literally can't see shit. It's great.
>>573781394sieg is pretty damn good as a tank unit if you know how to play him and build him
>>573781848>Fuck up A SINGLE JUST FRAME AT ANY MOMENT and the character just spontaneously explodes into confettiLook man if you can pull that off consistently while dealing with beelzebub mechanics, I kneel, the whole world kneels, but the truth is you can't.
>>573781394Didn't the balance pass fix all of Siete's problems, and his styles let him shit out damage with skillspam? Song should be better too now that debuffs work against bosses, and although Sandalphon's flash step is dead, I thought they buffed the rest of his kit.
>>573781785I actually like the clock buff stacking tree...More buffs is more good!
>>573781931i think people just assume sandolphon is shit because 99.9% of sandy players are the worst fucking players in the entire game in chaos++ with 35k health who are still attempting to spam triangle God I get worried EVERY TIME I get one in a party
>>573779130not intended to do what, dodge midair? the perk allows you to do 5 finishers in a row, the dodging just makes it faster because you're canceling some of the animation
Nerf Fediel asap please, getting matched with even 1 takes the fun out of it but with 3 it's just boring.
I skipped the cutscene after beating co-op bub and now I can't view it again...
The one thing that fuck me up with Sieg, the kind of fucking me up that goes real deep into my yaoi hole, is that I have a 50% chance of fucking up the tempo mechanic whenever the game throw me a cutscene of any kind.An SBA, Gallanza spear surfing, anything. And God know how many of those there are.
>>573781394still too early for a tier list, fediel probably the only tier 0/SS so far wtf is that def debuff stacking>sandalman that lowwas the nerf to this homo so bad his master traits aren't enough to compensate it? maybe that explains why every run with him felt slightly slower
>>573781394There should be a different tierlist for AI companions cause Sieg and Cag with the buff masteries carried me hard through Chaos++
do sandy/seofon/tweyen just do without the terminus seal now and use one of their new weapons?
>>573781394In what reality is Song shit tier
>>573781394garbage list
>>573781394>was top 2 characters in vanilla relink>GETS BUFFED
>>573782087>was the nerf to this homo so bad his master traits aren't enough to compensate it?He is still very strong but you need more brainpower to play him now than before
>>573781394>rose and yoda only mid tierthey should be high tier at minimum because of their support>percival mid tierhe's sleeper god tier, he has a build that lets him spam petrify and party-wide ATK and DEF, and a damage build that lets him dump millions with a nuke>lance, song, siete, sieg shit tierlance is godlike for the people who actually played him and used his glaciate, he had his brainless fof build gutted so shitters are complainingsiete and song were fixed with the update and belong in mid tier at minimumdps sieg is mid tier on a normal person and god tier on ai, tank sieg is easily high tier i have had infinity runs that were hard carried by that shitidk enough about the rest but a lot of this list seems iffy>>573781915anon the substitute build doesn't have the bullshit perfect stacking mechanic
>>573782087No but every fucking retard still keeps spamming his light step
>>573779586I don't play relink, but I've played the browser game since 2015 and I came to tell you a story. I used to be pensive at all the lolicons in anime fandom. I thought they were suspicious and probably pedophiles irl. I could never fap to lolis. Hence I never cared much about Io. But then the Io sexpose dropped. Holy. I had a secret guilty fap. Then 20 more. After that it was undeniable. No John, you are the lolicons. That image literally made me like lolis.Well I still like big breasts and hags, but now I can appreciate a wider range of anime girls. Thank you Io.
how to get hexachrome quartz?
>>573782003More power to you then! Does it make her tankier? The extended timer in Devour mode on the other tree is so comfy kek
>>573782369Progress
>>573782369beat the hexachrome
Tier list posts are always funny because It's always guaranteed to get a bunch of "X is great if you know how to build them / know what you're doing / believe in yourself" repliesI play a braindead character so I don't know any better either way lmaoI wonder if there's a character everyone can actually agree sucks or if we have to pretend everyone's good
PLEASE tell me there's a better way to farm weapon upgrade mats besides that extreme difficulty map with the floating eyesTHERE HAS to be something better now in chaos, right?
Should I drop alpha and gamma now that my asc weapon is fully upgraded?
>>573782704no, you are chasing damage cap forever in the game nowyou dont need any form of atk anymore, you just need damage cap, damage cap, and damage cap
>>573782369Clear all Infinity quests
I'll only care about tier list if it's for AI, the character I play doesn't matter
>>573782791Yeah but I'm wondering if it's really worth keeping them due to their okayish cap up effects.
>>573782865their damage cap increases are a drop in the bucket in the long run if you want the sigil slot for something comfier
How can one build an unkillable Bea? I was watching some random Japanese stream fighting Infinity Lucy on a whim and there was a Bea in the streamers team (they were using Fediel of course). They wiped on the fight (Lucy was at 20%) because of Io and Magi, but all I heard was Bea just screaming out her attacks constantly but never being close to death lol.
>>573782697Conflux
>have fun actually getting to build 300k monster HP characters>the final infinity endgame goes right back to super low HP builds thanks to catastrophe returningWhat's the point? That honestly kind of sucks
>>573782196Genuine question, how? Is it just using the early Zohar Strike to get the 50% meter back? Other than that you're just spamming your normal attack and combo finishers.
>>573782973200k hp isn't super low especially with the buff stacking you can do with defense up and attack down
>>573782973terminus only gives you like 13% more damage compared to ascension, the gap is way smaller than before
>>573782791>don't drop lushitlus sigilslol this isn't even chaos+ opinion
>>573781394>characters i wanna play are mid tier at best>characters i have no interest in are all top tier
>>573781394Just for comparison, early Japanese tier list
>>573781394Lancelot didn't really change much if you were doing more than just mashing Y foreverHis double combo finisher build works nice but I don't think his damage is the best.
>>573783198isnt this just based off of target dummy autism?
Katalinabros...
finallytime to fix the others
>>573783217his damage is terrible which is a heavy price to pay when his range and utility are mediocre. i tried all three trees and he just feels gimped
>>573783198Everyone shits on Ghandagoza but every single one I've seen in ER has been the MVP, even with Fediel's in the party. Coincidentally all of them were japs
>>573783198I feel like the japs just want to fuck the catshe's REALLY mid unless someone can post something to disprove it besides a dumb target dummy tweet
>>573781394>>573783198what are people basing these tier lists off of?>>573783235if it's 60 second target dummies then that is hilariously bad>multiple characters have buff mechanics that give massive damage over a long period>dummy parses have always been a memeit reminds me of some faggot trying to force meta sigils for the DLC and he didn't have any of the mandatory survivability ones like improved dodge
>>573783284There's a lot of ways to swing MVP but yeah in my experience as well it's nice seeing Ghandagoza just swing for a bunch of damage during SBA Chains and Link Times
>>573780647>>573780382Thanks. I tweaked it a little to include damage cap and managed to secure MVP a few games later.
>>573783198>4.1>S tier>4.9 and 4.3s>A tier and B tier???
>>573783309she's S tier for me because her butt jiggles when she does her SBA
i want a cag gf to play relink with
>>573783338I run a Terminus Build and I wouldn't be caught dead without at least improved dodge and potion hoarder
>>573783284ghan sadly scales with fight difficultyyeah he almost does fedel-tier damage if his opponent is just standing there taking it up the ass but if it's any fight where the boss like jumps backwards it is just sad watching that old man slowly chase shit
Is there a way to shorten the wait time in Conflux when idling? It takes like a minute or two before it picks a choice.
So you're telling me that the top tier character in Relink is yet again another character who spams pressing a Y attack that has way too high caps?
>>573781072I got my base hexa clear with two Eustace don't diss my boy.
>>573782957conflux takes way too long just to give you like 16 large stones
they'll fix fediel just like they deleted DMG cap charge bypass glitch and skill dodge cancel into combo without using skill cd
>>573783280I will like Luci is the hardest S++, by far
How exactly do I abuse Fediel, is there a videoi wanna enjoy the broken setup before nerfs
>>573783569Ooooh you meant the crystals. Yeah you get tons of them in ER
>>573782390I've only got her at perk rank 2 due to running Conflux way too much instead of progressing but not having to choose between red and yellow when Devour is active is going to make it so much easier to get the most out of it even when bosses aren't downedAnd it's not like it takes long to get Devour back. One small combo in every clock mode and it's back online
Anyone got a Fediel, Siegfried, Vane or Gallanza build I could poach off? Been trying to get back into building but all the new stuff is kinda getting thrown at me and I'm a bit overwhelmed in trying to understand what's optimal right now. Just been using a variation of my old base end game build from 2 years ago. just got into Chaos++ a bit ago.
>>573783670You pick this Mastery and spam the spirit bombs
>>573782923I want comfy but I also want damage. The ascension weapon trait options are also kinda bad with only 2.
>>573783181Fuck tier lists, play whatever you want. The best character is your favorite character.
>>573783539Basically all relink characters fall into 3 tropes:>A. you fill up a bar, then you doomp the bar(these characters are usually mid-tier)>B. You press the Triangle/Y button(these characters are usually god-tier unless you're galanza)>C. You constantly time just frames and have extreme skill checks(These characters are always shit-tier)
>>573782704You can replace them with Stun Power + Whatever and take the mastery that gives you DMG cap for basic sigils
>>573783779It's a work in progress but it gets the job done
>>573783881Do I get more points to spend once I'm past MR 30? If I do I imagine I should save sigil building until then since it seems my options are pretty limited for now.
What does stun even dolink attacks?
>>573784004There's extra masteries later but you don't get more points for the first 3 tiers
>>573784089>don't get more pointsOh
>>573783881Does stun power do something besides fill up break bar faster?
>>573784070Helps breaking parts which flinch the enemyand yes, builds up the blue bar for link attacks
>>573784239So no direct damage. Hrm.
https://x.com/ArewGNSN/status/2076044758825537567>start SBA at 70% health>bahamut diesHey guys controversial opinion but the huge titty brown lady is kinda good
>>573784214More link times in a fight = more damageAnd almost everyone gets to cheat out a combo finisher or gets bar when you get a link attack, plus a second to hit things for free
the final boss of the ER story was weird, like lucilius in chaos++ was legit fucking awful but my buddies and I with 1 AI partner got through it then we get to this weird elemental boss that died so fast and barely did anything and the story just ends and we get our 50 uncap and terminus ascends. Then I went back to the fight to do it for a title with AI party and it was way different like I had to run through some gauntlet to reach him at some point in the fight but it never happened the first time I did it.
>>573784294It helps that her SBA animation is also long as fuck
>>573784294Is that Chaos++ or Infinity?
>>573784294>Start of her SBA animation is your screen directly faceplanting her tits>party of 3 so you are just eating giant brown titties on a constant basis
Might be a dumb question, but are infinity quest classified as 'Fatebreaker Grade' for fatebreaker?
>>573784662I'm going to be sad when she gets nerfed
>>573784324Should I aim for like 2 hp and 2 stun to replace the gammas and alphas?
>>573780501there's a new mastery that lets you just spam X in blue stance, completely ignoring the pink stance
>>573784673>just checkedYes.
>>573784850Max stun before getting HP
>>573783678NTA but what is ER?I also really need like a fucking THOUSAND large fortitude crystals
>>573783263Her damage might be F tier, but her voice is SS tier.
>>573784850You can keep Alpha if you want the Normal Cap more than general damage cap probablyOr replace those with Celestial sigils and ditch Gamma for the Stuns + WhateverKeep Lv60+ Dmg Cap of course, at least Dmg Cap+ drops a lot in Chaos now.
>>573785003Elden RingEndless Ragnarok
>>573785003Endless Ragnarok
>>573785129Alpha is 25% per sigil slotBasic is 40% per sigil slot
How come builds only have two stun sigils Don't you need 4 to get the most out of that mastery?
>>573784294She is literally broken and needs to be fixed.
>45 secondsBubz is still a jobber
>>573785140>>573785138Isn't that literally the expansion or is there actually a quest named that Because im on chaos++ and you dont "get a ton" half the quests give you ZERO
I got a fucking cat
Not gonna lie I havent used a summon in ages
what tree are vas bros running... i like the sound of the parry one but the substats in it are pretty garbage
>>573785212At that point you'd be cutting into comfort skills, and stun power at least does something, HP is a negligible flat amount and everyone already has 95%+ crit by default now, if you even need a crit to hit your caps.You can also easily get 20 Stun Power from a Wrightstone
>>573785129I'm thinking maybe three stun and an HP with damage cap and a utility skill to make use of that one cap up mastery bonus.
I really want to swap to Cag but I cant figure out her gameplanIs it XYY spam for SBA and go the buffslut mastery?
Okay damn the time limit on the infinity quests are real tight, thought I would have a decent chance at it after getting my dude to ML 50 and almost fully transcending the terminus weapon(i'm guessing the last piece I need to transcend it is from the infinity quests). I remember bubs being a cakewalk but he gave me a reminder that people have been giving the advice of getting stun power(i'm at 258) and I wasted so much time even breaking the shield that had the quest not timed out I still probably would have failed the final DPS check. Then tried world, was going better but I suck at perfect guarding the quickening and the AI didn't even make an attempt at it so that was a bust as well. I'm running under the assumption that I'm at a minimum level of geared to do it by how close it got but how geared should my AI teammates be and is there an AI that likes to perfect guard?
>>573785823Did you get 5 Star and level all your 150% Masteries?
Do people still run Uplift?I'm not using it Maglielle and I'm still way ahead of SBA on a lot of fights, but not enough that I can spam it and get it back before everyone else has 60+ meter again
Relink is like the one game that could benefit from more support than its gotten but I know ragnarok is definitely the end and probably took all of the miniscule budget cygames gave to the relink devsthe rest went to Uma Party Dash, of course
>>573785823I thinnk Gallanza's AI will perfect guardI auto'd him through the Versa fight for his ascension unlocks
>>573785776XYY is good against long fat targets but otherwise you get very little damage out of it
>>573786040They said they'd keep updating it if ER does well, I have no idea how well ER did though
>>573786040I think what took the majority of the budget was cygames fucking with platinum games, who are by the metrics of any other studio very easy to work with and will basically make you a hit for half a sandwich
>>573786162>cygames fucking with platinum gamesThe other way around actually
>>573786008You're kidding right? I did the 1 star but I got 3 kids that need that MSP too oh man okay yeah I guess I should I've seen the bonuses from the 1st star so its a good investment>>573786106I'll give him a shot, though I worry he'll suffer similar problems to sieg. World and bubs move so much that he's having trouble keeping up and sometimes trails the team by 40% by the time 2 people have SBAs
Having a lot of fun with the game but I feel like I need to install a dps tracker or something because I have no idea if I’m doing well or just being strung along half the time
>>573786212well they did make bayonetta,,
Apparently the equip bonuses on summons go up to 80% (at least)
are these perks like unique damage multipliers?like why the fuck would i care about 10% increasted ATK?every character has these random +5% ATK increases and i don't know why anyone would waste points on them unless they had to.
siero you fucking jewish shit, this is 75k a pop
>>573786382Forgot pic
>>573786040they confirmed they were at least going to sell some skins so we probably have a few smaller updates coming in the futurea lot of ragnarok's changes seemed to be futureproofing the game to a degree, i can see us getting another infinity quest or two
Am I missing something or is the weakpoint weapon and the base hp weapon the only one that's really useable?
>>573786401atk buffs bypass dmg cap npw
>>573786475>>573786382Apparently it goes up to 100%
>>573786162>>573786212>>573786323platinum screwed over cygames and they had to rework the entire game afterwardsthe game was in development around when platinum started to go downhill too>>573786498imo the comfiest progression is crit weapon -> ascension -> stay at ascension or switch to terminus if you want to sacrifice a ton of bulk for a bit more damage
>>573786543Oh well, back to the Behemoth mines
>>573786475someone said they saw 100% but imagine the odds of thatit's likely the same as they were for supp V+ back then one in a million
>>573786480>Infinity Tuna
>>573786382Mine goes up to 100% yeah
>>573786531are these passive conditional bonuses even considered buffs to benefit from that new change?
why so many fucking centrums
>>573786543>400% DMG Cap from summonsOh lawd I'm coming>>573786570I just skipped using ascension weapon at all. I went Stinger > Transcended Terminus
>>573785776XYY into charged collapse for safe and consistent damage. XXYY for periods where you wanna force a stun on an enemy. XXXYY during SBA chains (you should be 1st or 2nd in the chain so you can build up gauge quickly again
>>573786570>>573786679I stuck with Terminus until Ascension then went back
>>573785317A cat is fine too
>>573786697naruhodo.... Do you opt for the support mastery traits and use the warpath sigil?
>>573785776>>573786697>>573786765You should also learn the guard cancel for XY for the fastest meter gain and the dodge offset saw combo
>>573786162Platinum games is a meme company that produced more flops than successful games that were hard carried by the meme/story potential (mgsr/nier)
>>573786659>It is 2016>Why so many fucking centrums>it is 2026>why so many fucking centrums
>>573786401Yeah some of these are weird>when you have no petswhen you have no pets you're either about to change that or you suck...
>>573786659Granblue is a balls collecting game, the same applies to the gacha
>>573786401ATK increase has a total cap to it. bonuses like these are made to reduce the load for sigils and summons. Things cap easier so you can focus on other damage stats
https://x.com/Reia_0222/status/2075288857193701665>fediel this, fediel thatNo, we need to talk about Maggy
>>573786401as far as I'm aware there's no nonsense like perpetuity modifiers so when something says ATK its definitely referring to ATK and not something unique
>>573787018The fuck how? What's the build?
>>573786908Sands and bricks aren't round.
>>573787128You will be collecting balls even if you arent looking for them
>>573787075there is, actually.>>573737940this poster tested the new celestial mods and they basically act as perpetuity mods.
>>573786480>>573786609i want infinity vyrn
sooooo what's the optimal rotation for this shiti can only trigger it a few times over a 10 minute fight, meanwhile i see other beas triggering it constantly
>>573787374Well those say deal more damage so I'd assume it's different from atk at leats, but good to know they raise the cap
damn, world infinity is easy if you can parry but bubs kinda slaps
>try slimeblast with my fully upgrade pre DLC eugen>slap all the new sigil on him>hits like noodleWhat now, in order to grind MSP I have to spend shitload of MSP first?
>>573787434Isn't the other mastery better? The one where you get more gauge while in your install?Tbh I dont even know the exact details of what Bea's buffs do lolIt's so weird they don't show it ingame
>>573787374Fuck they did it again
>Damage increase>ATK BUFF (red sword arrow)Both will increase damage regardless of cap
>>573787498the hardest infinity fight is either bubs or luci depending on how often you killed luci before the dlc and if you're playing a character with good mobility to counter bubs' knockback spami kind of wish they gave more to hexa dragon because while it's a fun fight it's mostly a dps check
>>573787609You can also just slot in Steel Nerves and ignore all of Bubz' knockback
>>573786805what's the dodge offset saw combo?
How the hell do I do the red shirt trio and king silverslime sidequests? Where are they? I went back into Conflux to see if that Dexterity room with the triplets is it for one of them, but it won't appear.
>>573787535red is damagegreen is regen + drainyellow is defense + hyper armor
>>573787719That doesn't say anything thoughHow much defense? How big regen/drain? What damage source?
I learned how to pirate games on linux to play relink (you use peazip and not fileroller)(thats it)
>>573787689It's chance based just keep doing dex paths and you'll find them eventually.
>>573787535Get Stout Heart + Steel Nerves and stay in Green and be unkillableThe uptime you get contributes more damage than Red
>>573787651XXX Dodge Y Dodge YY it speeds up the combo and is a bit more safe
I swear I didn't hear it in the base game but now I'm suddenly hearing the perfect guard ping when using danchou's power raise. Am I hallucinating it? Was it always there and I just never noticed?
>>573787603well post ER damage dealt sigils at least
Hey so does Lyria always talk like that or does she get a character arc
>>573787820is that even possible? i thought you couldn't get sigils with stout heart + something else
>>573787947You get Stout Heart on a summonSteel nerves + whatever (dmg cap up) on a sigilStay in green
Was there any way to tell if you're hitting a weakpoint?
After having seen literally 0 Ferry's all week I just had two in my party, one of which had mastery level 50.
>>573788116Usually a face or a breakable partOn smaller enemies I would imagine it's just the back
I've been hearing good things about AI Magli. Whats the skill and style setup for her? I'm assuming staff is a guaranteed take for shield utility?
Infinity Bosses>ZA WARDOHilarious pinyata>HexaKino>BubsPeak Relink>Versaslightly better Dark Swordman>LuciSuffering and ass cancer in pubs
bubs is peak dogshit ngl
>>573788116Theres a visual tell on how your damage numbers are displayed but just hit the back, is easier
>>573788305I remember her being fun but only okay damage-wise
>centrums this>weapon crystals thatWhy is no one complaing about grand refinium 1...
HOW DO I FARM SIEROKARTES TICKETS GIMME MORE SIGILS
>>573754939IDGallanzaVaneGhandaghoza
Gane works fine on my end but at first launch it took like 3 times the ram for a solid 2 minutes and fucked up my puterdunno what thats about
>>573789145No Vee, don't do it, don't say the F-word.
feel like bashing vyrn's head in with a hammer today <3
>>573741565>Scourge spamStill RNG though but at least you don't get cucked out of your form during transitions or special attacks where you can't touch the boss.
>>573789186Fossildweller
post your luck today
Gonna start using Glass Cannon on Fediel. I'm not getting hit anyway when I'm standing a mile from the boss throwing balls
>>573789539famous last words
>>573789539glass cannon doesn't give cap does it?
>>573789539I don't think you realize how often they get small hits on you.
>>573787940for all intents and purposes lyria and Vyrn are the same character, they were meant to basically be the main characters voice in dialouge scenes so Danchou wouldnt have a defined character. Big problem is that they eventually got one anyway so now the other two are stuck doing nothing
>>573789497I don't even have this
>>57378960550% cap
https://vxtwitter.com/age_vocalo1226/status/2076013464133533937lmao
can I get a qrd on Charlotta's gameplan, whats she getting most of her damage from doing
>>573787441>Well those say deal more damage so I'd assume it's different from atk at leatswith that statement in mind, can you guess what kind of damage increase this mod is?
did the soundtrack get worse or they return to bangers after chaos++ bosses?
>>573789901at this point just assume every damage dealt pre ER doesn't work with caps
is Eugens VA recording from a can???
>>573789712>have to apply 10 debuffs to enter her install>it lasts for 20 secondswell yeah
>>573790075From the grave
*if* i figure out how to have a good uptime on III and IV shots, can Eustace be high tier?
whats with this games obsession with the color blue
>>573790521It's in the name
>>573790521It's in the name of the game and "The Girl in Blue" is the tagline they used to sell the game to people early on
Defender transcended weapon might be the best general weapon for the character you're controlling, but is it the same for your AI party members? They don't really need the extra HP since they're going to be dodging everything, right?What's the best one for them then, the critical chance one?
>>573790521Series tagline as well as the sky color, it's symbolic, like pottery.
>>573790653stun or transcended terminus
>>573790680What makes the sky blue tho
>>573790862apparently not any god, the rage of bahamut turns it yellow
>>573790862Rayligh scattering or something like that, In Grubverse probably Lucifier.
Do we have an optimal mission for Stout Heart dropping summons? Is it still bag-head skeleton? Or is it the 4 dragons?
>Been feeling emotional over a woman for weeks now>Fraux fate episodesI WANT TO KILL MYSELF DANCHOU
how old is Lyria supposed to be? She talks like she's 6 years old
>>573791525she's about 1500 years old
>>573791525old enough to sit on my cock
>>573791525She was born during the astral war 500 so years old at this point
>>573791574>>573791623oh this trope gives me brain damageshe's age regressor nightnare mode
I just did faa with AI and it failed at 2%
already hitting for 180% dmg cap with this and i have most weapons fully transcended, what do
>>573788504>huh no way luci is harder than bub and world on infinity>each hit taken lands maxhp debuff + pubs not investing in stun sigils
>>573791765Don't depend on others to do what you can do yourselfeven if it takes four times the amount of grinding
I NEED SILVER CENTRUMS AAAAAAAAA
>>573791837how? you get like 40 from one of the chaos++ quests
>>573791649She is lab made, she was never "turned on", her mother Lilith kept her in stasis and was never awakened until only few months prior the start of the main game first story arcBody is 500+, but she never seen the world prior meeting katalina and gran/jeeta
>>573791943That's a weird looking Lilith
ventus is bait dont use ventus does improved healing increase drain cap?
I finally did it, bros.Yes the stats are shit but I can finally build my Bea and Katalina.
>>573791943That was the worst anniversary event everGigafaggot that wants to destroy the sky because a bunch of retards killed his boyfriend gets to live but Lilit that literally did nothing wrong is the only one in the event that has to pay for everything
>>573792107I think it increased drain healing in the original so it should
>>573792078One is a Lilith that never lost hope and wants the best for her creation even if it's not really her biological daughterThe other has lost everything and has nothing to lose
>Start the faa>Casting the end>Retards aim for his swordsVery nice, grub
fuck it im swapping to vane i cant dodge or parry for shit on id
When do I unlock the Fediel orb spam thing I see people do? I'm Mastery 30 atm
>>573792127Canonised that Lyria WONNah.
>>573792237I don't rememebr shit about the faa fight except that one of his moves went through vase undying for no reason at all
>>573792574It was his opening trigger
>>573792574thats his fuck-you stat check
>>573792601>>573792740Nah it was something druing a phase where shat black goo all over the floor I think
enjoying the game so far but basic character functions being stuck behind minimal upgrades is so fucking irksome
>>573787820Her damage outside of red is pathetic and you should still be able to tank through shit with stout heart and steel nerves in red, use her warpath if you aren't, it's a big damage up.
>>573792078it's heavily implied that lilith is that character's sister.
FUKUHOMO YOU FAGGOT MAKE SLIME AKF FARMABLE
>>573792530lol lmao, canonized that she was a canon cuck, that she wouldn't ever be with danchou and just gonna have to wait again for his reincarnation for some thousand years, it's shalem's turn on the reincarnation dick ride
which quest drops summons with stout heart
>>573793174Red feels sooo squishy thoughh
Bread...
>>573794058Just got one from the Skeleton boss that unlocks after finishing the DLC story.A /v/ anon also said it of the elemental dragon summons can have the trait and he got his from the 4 dragons raid.
When you're rerolling transmutations what do you consider good enough to stop? I got a few berserker echos V, 1 war elemental V and 1 spartan V+ after like 200 rolls, not really sure if thats lucky or not
>>573794863Those all drop from normal fights now.
>>573794863Only spartan+ is good since the rest+ also drop from other quest
I think the summons can roll every sigil, including war elemental, except the Lucilius sigilsLucilius sigils are locked to the referee summon who can't have anything else
>>573795025There are weights to the specific summons I feel.Farm the wolf for a bit and you'll get a chunk of greater aegis drops.One of the skeletons is life on the line.You can get lucky though
>>573795218I think the summon's skill level tier also blocks off a lot of the good shit because they can only be rolled at 15.
>>573795952>>573795952>>573795952>>573795952
