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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9475 - Fiona was right Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
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>Milestone pastebin:
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>Perfect System Collection:
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>Sonic comic scans:
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>Sonic shows:
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>SAGE
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>SHC
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>#10000 Project
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https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
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>/sthg/ Pixel World:
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Previous Zone: >>573717837
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https://youtu.be/-2CGj5cPRaQ?si=aGmjBBrF_Wj-Fkr9&t=1839

Remember the good times?
When did you stop cheering for Ian?
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Keep that bitch Hope away from Shadow
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Sonurge is kino
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>>573759853
Someone's threatened
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Why does Hope need to stay away from Shadow?
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>>573759353
Exactly, not just one guy. And now there’s Espio lol
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>>573759803
>When did you stop cheering for Ian?
Right around the time he stopped being tethered to Tracy Yardley and we realized that without the pretty drawings to handicap his writing he's full of shit. It'd be like if Evan Stanley woke up one day and forgot how to draw suddenly.
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>>573760004
She looks like Maria.
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Ian would probably be liked a lot more if he didn't vomit his entire perspective out onto Bumblekast. We shouldn't know the exact reasoning behind every decision he makes in the comics. Now that we do there is someone to blame for everything we don't like. Unprofessional
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>>573759739
What exactly was Fiona right about? Going with Scourge was the most impulsive decision she made in her life and shat on her entire history.
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>>573759803
When he became obsessed with lesbians. He was at his strongest working off and making sense of the stupid slop before him. Even after the Pendering, there was still so much to play off of to make nonpowerscaling shounen shit.= with emotional beats on the side. Now he and the others are leashed by Sega and readers alike.
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>>573759739
Right about what?
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Hotshelter killed Espio discussion. Minatard killed Mina discussion. Fuck them
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>>573760614
How did they effect discussion on these characters in any way
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>>573759739
Reminder that Eviliona was Flynn's doing. Here's the real pic OP meant to use. Enjoy.
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>>573760506
>>573760551
Everything
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>>573759383
>>573759914
Kek I just saw her deal. She looks like a genderbent version of the general.
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>>573760703
No doubt about it.
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>>573759739
>Cucker and the cucked
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>>573760671
They view those characters as their cumrags
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what if fonzie met the joker
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>>573759803
I never knew him until Frontiers, so I've never cheered for him.
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>>573760952
Give an example of how a Mina discussion is supposed to go and how Minafag changes it
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what if Fonzie kissed the Fiona
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>>573760952
I am tired of Minafag’s spam and his drawings desu
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>>573760857
Fiona was asserting dominance.
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Minafag is based. Much better than people who see her as Tails's trophy sexpot
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How do we "get rid of" the bitches we don't like?
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>>573760979
>>573761087
where’s a drawfag when you need one?
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>>573761231
You have never seen Minafag’s godawful porn
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Krack understands Shadow
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>>573760614
no one talks about them anyway like when was the last time we talked about the chaotix like when that radio show was going on that made rouge suck at seducing espio?
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>>573761256
That’s a good question.
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Realistic Sonic reboot when?
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>>573761392
>hehe did you see that Hotshelter, your cumrag husband is having a romance with Rouge
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I can't wait to see how IDW makes Shadow job next!
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>>573761531
That can wait until after IDW infantilizes Silver again
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>>573761483
You joke, but apparently it actually fucking worked for Star Fox because stupid people are sick in the head, so maybe Sega will do something really stupid and sick-in-the-head now in response.
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>>573761612
That's great! Aren't they doing that in the very next issue?
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Picrel will be Blaze in the next storyline.
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Don't care about ships just want to fuck Sara's tits
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>>573762035
Fucking tits is overrated.
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>>573762072
Tried it?
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>>573760192
Yeah, this kind of back seat inner circle hoghschool clic culture from the comics in general has been bad for thr fandom and perception of the series in general really.
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>>573762154
The fans would probably want Fowler roasted alive if he had a Fowlercast that explained all of his decisions for money
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>>573759803
I never cheered for him, but i did become more critical of if when Evan started writing and most of the issues I had with him that everyone insisted was Sega and Sonic Team's fault weren't present, anf then I realised there was just a cult of personality arounf him fueled by the wider anti-Sonic Team attitude popular at the time in general.

I actually was one of the first wave of people to start fighting back against comicfagging anf archiefagging back then actually.
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>>573761231
>people who see her as Tails's trophy sexpot
Literally who? Their pairing in XYL was one of the most bizarre things ever and is constantly mocked or shit on, even by Archie fans, and with good reason.
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>>573762346
Do you remember Archiefags criticizing Ian for the Metal Sally thing?
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>>573762610
I remember a Sallyfag sending Ian a long rant about how Sally being a lesbian is completely OOC and his response was that Reboot Sally is not the same character
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>>573762710
I do too but before the reboot. Iirc there were a few shitting on the plot being too edgy or something
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I remember the boxes for the 2000s games labeling them "Action Adventure" instead of platforming
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guys i think knuckles might be getting raped
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>>573762996
No that's Shadow, and those are zombots.
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/Sthg/...Ever get the feeling you were born in the bad future?
>SatAM got another season
>Archie ended at #50
Why do I feel this simple switch would have created the good future?
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>>573762882
everything was action adventure in the 2000s
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>>573763142
There is a level of psychology that it takes to understand this and its beyond me but yeah "Jetix" definitely sounds like action and adventure
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Do you bros remember MugiMikey?
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>archie
>satam
Don't care. I want the timeline where they cared to keep the games consistent
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>>573763225
cause it has an X! in it dude there's an X!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>573762882
Are the 2000s Sonic games even good platformer?
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>>573763093
Wouldn’t have happened. The 90s brought the wave of alternative media. That decade was just the beginning but pretty soon all adventurer action media would eventually morph into gay relationship melodrama.
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>>573763142
This. Action Adventure doesn't really describe gameplay but it sounds cooler than "platforming". Kids who were playing Sonic games were not thinking of them like "I'm going to buy a platforming game"
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>>573763236
the cuck who trimmed out himself saying the gamer word in that old video where sonic and classic sonic meet?
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Saw a 12 year old with bigger boobs than this today so I don't wanna hear any of that "she doesn't look like that she's only 12" shit ever again
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If we ever get SA3 it should try to actually look like it was made in the adventure era just like how Sonic Mania uses sprites
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>>573762610
Back then you actually had a lot more prebootfags that hated Ian. There was already a LOT of Ian hate even before Anti-Arcgiefagging started because Prebootfags saw it as Ian ruining the universe and calling him a slop writer overly reliant on fanservice and surface level emo edge.

I got into the comics through the Sonic Megadrive comics, which i felt had a fun if different take on Classic Amy. In retrospect though Megadrive is very carried by thr art and all the Flynnisms are on full display.
Anyways, I wrote Prebootfags off at first as just Archiefags hating the comics actually resembling the games instead of being Archie at the time, but then when Evan became the writer for issue 33, it hit me like a truck how much that shit hit differently. So I went on a sort of journey backtracking through Sonic games reassessing how "accurately" Ian genuinely dif know these characters and the games and realised he really didnt. Save Knuckles. He rights Knuckles character well even if i get annoyed he seems to glaze him anf punch down at Sonic and such to do so as well as trying to write him out of his duty.

Ian doesn't really write stories. He writes like, well, a fanwriter. And his attempts at writing "themes" always comes off as thinly veiled cynical critique of Sonic as a series and character for being iteself or to address meta discourse through the mouths of the characters. A lot of the timr it feels more like Ian is talking instead of the character talking.
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>>573763567
ST probably doesn't see the aesthetic differences between the Adventure games and the Modern Sonic games made today.
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>>573763236
I miss his abridged Sonic X dubs. Still haven’t managed to find a few of them.
>>573763462
Yeah one old video I can’t find is him saying “faggot”.
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>>573763604
I don't like Preboot much but I can see why someone would be mad that 20 years of world building and character development got destroyed. The first four issues of reboot's transition aren't even entertaining enough to stand on its own since they spend so much time explaining what happened to the previous universe and the only real conflict is just a generic eggman battle
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Yeah, I'm starting to notice when SoAglowies are around..Look out when there's inexplicable pushback to 'inconvenient' information.
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>>573762882
The term Platformer is a western term that didnt reach Japan until the 2010s.
Sonic Team called Sonic games highspeed "sidesrolling action games" or "character action games". Sometimes "side scrolling character action games".

Later they would call Sonic games "high speed action games".

Also fun fact. In Japanese the term Metroidvania doesnt exist. They call them Search Action games and so does Nintendo of America.
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>>573763715
So why, would you posit, hasn't Cybershell been cancelled...?
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>>573763825
>They call them Search Action
i will be saying this from now on
i hate the term metroidvania so much
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when i was little i didn't know how to use the homing attack in the adventure games so i jumped directly on every enemy and beat the game that way
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>>573763819
I was gonna call the next thread “Damage Control Team Edition” but I was lazy and Fiona stole my post. Last thread was a shitshow and somebody was ban happy. At least we got rid of one tailspedo.
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>>573763329
https://youtu.be/QDaKTTZtJZY
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Sega of America is not trying to steal the characters and ruin them for you
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>>573764112
then they're really failing at whatever it is that they're trying to do
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SoA saved Sonic time and time again
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>>573763448
I mean, they weren't thinking of them like adventure games either. They were thinkong of them as Sonic games.
Growing up, I didnt really think of Sonic as being the dame kind of game as Mario.

Tbh I only really thought of games as being in "genres" if they were spinoffs, listened games or weren't focused on any particular kind of character.

I thought of Mario games as Mariogames, and Spongebob as a 3D Mario like game.

Mario Party was a party game, Mario Kart was a racing game, but Mario Sunshine was a "Mario game".
Well not really because to me real Mario games played like Mario 3 but I digress.
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>>573762996 (me)
NEVERMIND, HE'S BACK
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>>573764035
That anon barely made a dent in the Tailsposting. It's like when we lost a Fiona or two, you can't tell the difference. (No offense to any Fionaposters.)
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>>573764112
Sega of America is enforcing Israel's will. Which is ensuring nothing is straight. People always complain about Nazis burning books, but they never ask what was in those books.
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>>573764464
Yeah but what I really meant is that even mentioning what just happened will get you banned instantly. It happened several times. Strangest thread I’ve seen by far.
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>>573763978
Same, its annoying and dumb and reduces the genre to being clones of 2 games.
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I would say windfags are not common in the fandom yet they managed to turn "OOC" into enough of a slur. IDW fans will complain about purists all the time but when Archie comes up they say EVERYTHING windfags say
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>>573764253
SoA are the ones that castrated the series and than ran it off a cliff in the 2010s to begin with, as well as being responsible for all the brand confusion as well.
SoE doesn't have these problems.
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>>573762870
They were complaining about it being all doom and gloom, but I know they were just upset about Sally being ripped away from Sonic.
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>>573764850
The 2010s games being somewhat decent somehow saved them from being seen as horrifically cringe
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>>573764917
idk about that
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>>573764701
IDWfag arguments come more from trying to defend IDW because IDW acted as a way for them to get into "fandom" without having to actually do things like play the games. Also it attracted Enbyfurryqueers who otherwise dont care much about Sonic.
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>>573764903
It's funny how there are people who are so deranged that they think Ian was plotting to get rid of Sonally when he was literally trying to fix it after Penders and Bollers burned it to the ground
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>>573763604
Ian writes stories for the sole sake of being praised, stories that he thinks fans will like him for, not stories he thinks are good and that fans will hopefully like the vision.
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Douge
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>>573765032
>"fandom"
I noticed that too. For some of these people IDW is a way to make new friends in online spaces. It's very similar to the TADC fandom.
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>>573765158
>stories that he thinks fans will like him for,
what a human roach
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>>573765218
Queers are very narcissistic.
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>>573765218
IDW Sonic is a vibes comic. It makes you feel like you're part of the fandom without touching a single game or any other media.
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>>573765158
Penders is the opposite of Ian. He doesn't care if the stories will get him praised, he just wants what he wants. He doesn't even understand if other people won't like his stories. He's like a white Yuji Naka.
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>>573764917
>decent
If Colors DS is a blueprint for how ColorsWii was originally gonna be designed and written, the game would have actually been just as if not more popular and lasted the test of time imo.
Colors as it is was mostly good for being accessible to people who dont normally play Sonic games while being a main entry exclusive to the Wii, which Wii fans were hungry for since every other main entry was on the HD consoles.

I do think the positive reception from Burger boomers helped but thats kind of an issue with Sonic in general where these people were the ones shitting on it and calling it bad despite the reception by the fans to begin with. People more judged Sonic games based on reviews and media perception than the actual games themselves at the time. And the people that complained were people whose memories and understanding of Sonic began and ended eith vague memories of "GreenHillZone from Sonic 2" and the two DiC cartoons at the time.
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>>573765306
Understatement of the millennium. It's what makes them so easy to control.
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2000s games simply suffered from 2000s games critics hating anime lol. They were shitting on JRPGs CONSTANTLY it was straight up unironic racism.
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>>573765218
I was gonna make the comparison but chose not to. I was also gonna bring up Undertale and DeltaRune but I didnt because I like those games even though ive always hated their fandoms.
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>>573765585
The fandoms of those series are absolutely similar, though the content is not exactly the same. TADC attracts people who just want wholseome vibes therapy slop but it focuses heavily on a toxic character who's very existence hurts those people
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>>573765760
why do you kill sovl
why are you such a person
who made you
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>>573765386
Im.not a fan of his stuff but I do find the Ian cults demonization of him really obnoxious these days.
I remember when they used to insist Knuckles in the games cant have any lore because of "The Pendering".
Same people will insist Sechiefags didnt treat it like it was canon to the games like some EU but they did.
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>>573765847
It's an excellent reimagination and a brilliant composition.
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>>573763604
I do remember people getting pissed at how he murdered a large amount of characters because of the bloat
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>>573765905
I like Shade, but I think it's safe to say if she actually stayed on the mainline games we would have the same discussions about how she effected Knuckles like we do with Silver and Blaze
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>>573765714
All of them are downstream of homesick in general which is infamous for how unhinged of a fandom it was.
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For every four Sonic fans that have played 7+ Sonic games, there are six Sonic fans that have played less than 7 of the games because there are dozens of ways to interact with and enjoy the franchise
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>>573765905
I simply don't like how Penders' name us used as some kind of "proof" that Ian is a good writer. Like, congrats, your silver turd is better than his bronze turd. It's still a turd, though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SBKj5ofGVw
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>>573766032
Bingo
I find it telling that Knuckles' new bio goes out of its way to say he is the only Echidna left who has a connection to and can control the Master Emerald.
Its like Sonic Team loudly saying "stop trying to write him out of his damn duty, its an essential feature, not a bug".
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So anyone wanna speculate?
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>>573766282
Fuck off Krack
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>>573766282
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>>573765545
>They were shitting on JRPGs CONSTANTLY
because jrpgs suck massive logs of dookie
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>>573766060
>>573765714
>homesick
HomeStuck*
Fucking autocorrect
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>>573766163
My hot take is that I dislike how Penders and Pontaff are discussed as a whole. As if they are uniquely evil among American writers and nobody else can be as bad
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>>573766282
Lookit him, Krack the super-sleuth! Hey, bozo! I've got a clue! Up your ass!
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>>573766412
Adam Sessler calm down
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>>573766163
I dunno if I would say Ian's stuff is really better.
Its technically more like the games but it doesnt use those game elements well.
Penders stuff is the kind of generic western slop I like to mock that treats complexity as more important than depth but its still something.

Ian's thing instead is trying to be meta and genre saavy, and its annoying.
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>>573766282
Well we pretty much already know they’re a tight clique that only hire friends and peers, we just need a screen cap of one of them admitting it.
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>>573766492
Yeah, they arent uniquely bad. They are just generic western writers that write generic western slop of their respective field "comics and kids cartoons respectively"
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Hot take: Sonally isn’t even that bad conceptually, even in the context of Windnic. It feels like people only hate it because of Archie’s writing in general escalating to such fanfic level territory.

People say Sonic would never “settle down” or commit to anybody—and while it is hard to imagine game Sonic married with children—I don’t see anything off about Sally being a love interest for Sonic in general. Their dynamic is pretty similar to Sonic and Tails’, where Sally is the brain to Sonic’s brawn, and their partnership and chemistry complements each other well despite their differences.
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>>573764903
Yes, to the point of accusing Ian, the worst Sally glazer, of being a sonamyfag lol

>>573764621
I found that really fucking weird too, there was this tailsfag trying to silence the topic by changing the subject and spamming. Now I know what the anon meant. Weird stuff.

>>573765585
Agreed on all, I saw similar retardation (we just had some Jaxfag insert him as a cameo in one of the Archie fan continuations) Although yes, the contamination likely stems from homestuck like anon said >>573766060
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>>573766938
Because Sally was characterized as quickly losing patience with any disobedience
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>>573766756
Sonamy was never going to be canon anyway
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>>573763562
hmmm... please stop staring at kids in public.
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>>573766938
I don't know why we're acting like Sonic in a relationship is negotiable. There's source after source on this. Sally would move on if it isn't specifically the Flynn version of her
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>>573766756
Your wrong Krack, your wrong, you are wrong. You are the ones who needs friends!
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>>573766938
>Sally is like Tails
She’s obsolete then.
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>>573766938
The fix to Sally is to give her a one sided crush on Sonic that she wouldn't grow out of? So a new personality.
Yeah that's called character bloat
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>>573766938
Sonic x Princess is incompatible.
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>>573755786
>cosmo dynamic with tails
>a rape lake made them fall in love
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>>573766950
One of the tailsfags must be a janny. Banning one guy for talking about doxxing is one thing, but banning people for talking about it just added fuel to the fire. Then they just converse old talking points about Forces and Frontiers, like they just wanted there own little discord server. These guys are not from here.
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>Sally and Windnic
Reminder this was sthg's final question to Ian and wasted with the most obvious answer

No
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>>573766938
>Sonally isn’t even that bad conceptually, even in the context of Windnic
Aaaand ya ruined it>>573766938
>Their dynamic is pretty similar to Sonic and Tails’, where Sally is the brain to Sonic’s brawn, and their partnership and chemistry complements each other well despite their differences.
That isn't Sonic and Tails' dynamic. Its what they tried to turn it into in LostEorld though.
Sonic and Tails are charismatic hero and and his smart sidekick. Not "brains + brawn"
Tails os capable of fighting. Sonic's maon contribution isn't physical strength, its his personality and ability to inspire people and give them courage and energy with his initiative. Also Wind symbolism
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>>573767395
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>>573767148
Literally the only version of Sally that didn't move on from Sonic as soon as there was another option was Light Mobius. The Sally in Sonallyfags heads is a new character
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>>573766939
This is very canon indeed
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>>573767541
>Light Moebius Sally didn't move on
She should have.
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>>573767409
Well said. It's shocking how many don't understand how Sonic and Tails are meant to operate, including Sega sometimes.
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>>573767592
Penders calm the fuck down.
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>>573767326
>tfw Amy's fortuneshit is real
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>>573764621
You sure those other bans weren't just deletions?
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Sonallyfags are 10/10 when it comes to mischaracterization. Only Sonamytards get close.
Yes I see you in the thread too
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>>573767761
I’m sure.
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>>573767784
>ignoring Sonurgefags
hmm
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>>573767629
Eggman was a TND connoisseur. I fucken kneel..
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>>573767629
Its because Westoids just reduce everything to who has the most glaze, power and "agency"(however limited way they define it) and decide characters are good or bad based on how much they believe they should get based on patternfagging.
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>>573767852
>Sonurge
Who the fuck ships Sonic and Surge?
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>>573767784
I'm a transformative work maker. Not a curator. Some of the reason I participate in fandoms is to subvert the media to make something new. Not so with Archie Sonic though.
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Why do all these Sonally hypotheticals involve removing the consistent trait that she will immediately gun for any romantic competitor and consistently gets mad at the free spirit aspect of Sonic? If you want Amy she's right there
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Westfag analyze a story without needing to reducing everything to familiar cookie cutter tropes and cliches challenge level:
Impossible
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Shadow making out with his sibling
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>>573768108
Westerners were raised on power rangers and smurfs
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>>573767091
...does that mean would it be ok in private?
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>>573768061
They're shippers. They do not remember Sally's personality. Shippers in general always pitch the characters without their personalities
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>>573767871
I do this, because media analysis isn't my forte.
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>>573768061
Amy is pink and youthful and cute rather than "hot" and "refined"
Its the simple reality being these people want a female character that feels like a "prize" and Amy doesn't since her whole conceit as a character is to reverse the dynamic and be the one that tries to win Sonic's reciprocation.
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This night in my dream i was a cartoon fox like tails/nine watching Osama Bin Laden AI videos and laughing like a retard.
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>>573768331
good point.
I think it would be best if you just stuck with cartoon hedgehogs.
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>>573763562
Everybody know what they put in those school lunches.
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>>573768396
>>573768361
I'm not trying to shoot down just Sonally but this is the third time where I've seen someone say she would be compatible with game Sonic if you just make her act like a different person
Like... No shit? That's the entire issue. She's overly serious, she doesn't respond well to going off plan, and worst of all she will literally flirt with other men and denounce their relationship.
And that is with Sonics who are willing to accommodate her
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>>573762996
>*spank* heh nice ass Knuckles, care to join us? >:)
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>>573768396
I want my characters to be strong and larger than life. I didn't care much about Amy for awhile, but it's not possible to convince me that a man submitting to another is a desirable trait in a character.
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>>573763825
The fun part is that Japan has absolutely no standards for genre names. They literally just put whatever the fuck they want on the box.
>Genre: Loli sports shooting adventure
https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=GAME-0010464
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>>573768750
https://youtu.be/y7V4T2MlmhI?t=36
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>>573768262
Power Rangers is just a bastardized Japanese export though.
Its more they were raised on TMNT and shit they gets its structure from American sitcoms.
Its telling that the American Zelfa Cartoon did the same thing of making Link a cocky idiot who needed his level headed female foil better half to "reign him in".
Every western cartoon did this.
If the female wasnt this, she was an annoying brat instead.
Sometimes she was both. It just depended on if the show wanted you to side with the male lead or not.
Lisa Simpson, Sally, Sam Manson, Webby, Gwen Tenyson, Coco Bandicoot, the list goes on. Western media only makes like 2 types of female characters and the ones that don't fit into that are "subversions" of it

Even Katara in ATLA falls into this with Sokka.
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>>573768750
dude, did you not see the results? he was able to get out of that situation
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This is me in this franchise.
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>>573769137
peak
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>>573768660
This isn't so much as a Sonallyfag thing so much as a problem with every person who tries to pair a girl with Sonic
>Blaze
If you ignore the entire concept of Rush's ending
>Sally
if you ignore the fact that Sally literally has no patience for Game!Sonic's behavior. Satam OR Archie
>Amy
We pretend Sonic "likes the chase" because he's not using super speed to escape her in heroes. Using that singular shot ad nauseum even though even in the latest games he gets irritated at any sign of flirting
>Shadow/Knuckles/Silver
Full on delusion at this point

Sallyfags get special credit. At the very least they had a version of Sonic designed to cater to the pairing.
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why does deegeemin always draw sonic with a fat ass?
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>>573768886
Yes and its based. Genre standardization has been a net negative for gaming in general.
Im tired of people using thr argument of "Sonic 1 is the best because its more of an actual platformer".
Like dude that wasnt how the devs were thinking when they made the game. They were just making a game that was a sodescroller that made sense for Sonic as a character.
Genre ossification has resulted in every game feeling the same with maybe 1 gimmick to make it seem superficially different and I hate it.
Even games like Mario, DKC and Kirby used to play and feel different but since the Wii, they all feel largely interchangeable.
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>>573769137
A faggot drew this.
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>>573766938
>People say Sonic would never “settle down” or commit to anybody
Why is this phrased as if it those people aren't literally Naka, Oshima, Iizuka, and even Flynn Penders and Bollers
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>>573767331
That would explain a lot lol

>>573768061
Because they’re imagining Archie/SatAM Sonic even if they don’t mean to.
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>>573769305
>We pretend Sonic "likes the chase" because he's not using super speed to escape her in heroes. Using that singular shot ad nauseum even though even in the latest games he gets irritated at any sign of flirting
I dont really care for that angle personally. I just see it as Sonic likes her but isn't interested in a relationship and thats kind of just fine with me and most people.
I think i would more phrase it as "Sonic runs but he doesnt hate her for it" he just accepts thats how Amy is and he does his thing.
I dont get why this seems so intuitive to me but others have a more black and white pancake waffle way of interpreting everything
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>>573769394
A faggot typed this.
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>>573768061
I don't think Sallyfags like Sally. Unironically they don't like the character of Sally. Satam Sally flirts with other men and tells Sonic not to call her his gf. Archie Sally makes out with other men in front of Sonic. Reboot Sally fucks her PC. The only version of Sally who was loyal to Sonic is Future Sally and we now know that was literally Flynn rewriting a story where she gave up on Sonic and moved on.
90% of Sonic ships turn the girl in question into Amy to get around the fact that most people who aren't Amy would give up on a guy like Sonic
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>>573767042
It would've been canon if Sonic Team weren't so afraid of trying it. It was gaining momentum but now it's lost because of Sonic Team letting the lore team get away with ruining Amy with the 35th anniversary book and her SOA website bio. This is not a good look for Sonic Team at all and not good for Amy's character either
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>>573769680
How did you know anon?
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>>573769717
>90% of Sonic ships turn the girl in question into Amy to get around the fact that most people who aren't Amy would give up on a guy like Sonic
90% of shippers forget that this is supposed to be a unique character trait for Amy that shows her persistence and adding another girl with the same trait devalues her.
It's a good thing Sonic Team would never do such a thing as Devaluing Amy!
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>>573768061
It's only a matter of time before her royal genes switch on and she gives in
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>>573769798
>the lore team
You mean Israel. Faggotry has infiltrated literally everything at the behest of Jews that run the country and its corporations.
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Watching Blade of Courage get praised for adding a character that is literally just Amy but Enemies to Lovers
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>>573769819
You stink of larp.
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Gaynic the Gayhog
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>>573769305
>Using that singular shot ad nauseum
I could use Riders or something you prefer.
>even though even in the latest games he gets irritated at any sign of flirting
There IS NO flirting in the latest games. That's the problem.
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>>573769841
There is literally no proof Sally wouldn't fuck Tails if he grew older. He's more along the lines of her ideal man than Sonic is except for his age. In fact SallyTails doesn't have any "what if this character trait was different" faggotry. It is completely in-character for both of them.
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If it isn't the 4th wheel
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>>573769717
>90% of Sonic ships turn the girl in question into Amy to get around the fact that most people who aren't Amy would give up on a guy like Sonic
When they aren't doing that they are just turning Sonic into a flirty playboy whoch I think is more comon desu.
Even some sonamyfags do it which I find annoying.

A lot of shipping in general tends to just turn the girls into self inserts or reduce them to tropes in general.

Ironically I think Sonamy is probably the only ship where I've seen their actual dynamic and characters explored but im not gonna try to convince you its even the majority of the content.
Even stuff like Tailsmo and Shadria rarely explores the actual dynamic imo. They just get the excuse of being dead.
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>>573770062
Sorry, I was thinking of Shadow Generations and Japanese Crossworlds. Technically neither of those are a recent mainline game but Sonic's dialogue in Shadow gens is new.
If that is supposed to represent his current personality, Sonic still thinks being flirted with is annoying
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>>573769956
a lot of people hate amy now because they've been told to hate amy
and don't get me wrong, plenty of people legitimately hate amy
but a lot of people are doing it because they know it gets them likes and retweets
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>>573769717
>we now know that was literally Flynn rewriting a story where she gave up on Sonic and moved on
This has to be one of the most accidental funniest revelation because people were already pointing out how weird it was that Ian made Sally wait despite finding it cruel for Amy only for Penders to drop this bomb that she sure as hell wouldn’t have kek
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>Silvaze posting

Excuse me, but THIS is the real Silvaze
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>>573769798
>It would've been canon if
Stop
Im an Amyfag who even likes Sonamy talking to you here.
Please, just stop.
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ALL OF YOUR SHIPS ARE BIGGO RETARDO

Amy has been lobotomized by Sega of America and you're never getting her back

Sally HATES WINDSHIT unless you didn't READ ARCHIE or WATCH SATAM

Blaze is GLUED TO SILVER FOREVER

ROUGE? WHAT THE FUCK? ROUGE ALREADY HAS SUITORS. IS ROUGE A HAREM PROTAGONIST NOW?

WHY ARE YOU SHIPPIING SONIC WITH SURGE SHE IS LITERALLY PROGRAMMED TO KILL HIM ON SIGHT

YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS

THIS ISNT EVEN DEBATABLE STUFF THIS IS ALL OFFICIALLY STATED YOU SHIPTARTDS
EVERY DAY YOU ARGUE ABOUT THIS LIKE THERE IS ANY ROOM FOR ERROR

WOULD YOU ARGUE ABOUT WHAT FUCKING COLOR SONIC IS???????????
IDIOTS??????
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>>573770071
Tails would make a better king than Sonic ever would be. Plus, if they’re related then they get to keep their royalty in the family.
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>>573770318
Now that you mention it, do you prefer light blue classic Sonic or dark blue?
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>>573770237
Am I the only one not the least bit surprised that Penders's Sally turned out that way? She already basically became female Prime Shadow
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>>573770189
That doesn't really count. They didn't change his animation, so they had to have him say something to match it. It doesn't matter too much, though, most of the original dynamic between the two died with the advent of the meta era, and Generations fell smack in the middle of that.
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>>573769917
Ivo Gerscovich
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>>573769717
I hate Sonally with all my heart but the fact that it really was just set up for a Shadally endgame is a level of insult to injury that I can't actually support. Sonallyfaggots don't deserve that even if they can never wrap their retarded little brains around the characters
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>>573770639
It is exactly what archiefags deserve
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Amybestie melty hours?
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>>573770687
You besties act like Archie fans are criminals and not just annoying oldfags of an offbrand spinoff
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>>573770701
s'abit early.
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>>573770270
Who made this again? I forgot.
>>573770573
What in tarnation?
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>>573770318
>Rouge already has suitors?
What? You mean Lex?
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>>573770216
>a lot of people hate amy now because they've been told to hate amy
Legit that's kind of how it was even back then. A lot of people just kind of went online and believed they were supposed to hate her for some reason.
A lot of the crapping on 2000s Amy and people attacking people who want her to have more of her personality back, is people invested in being validated on crapping on her.
https://youtu.be/thTtz88q6EE
Its not even really about having found her annoying. Its about emotional attachment to the idea crapping on her was valid.
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>>573770237
Did even Sonally fans believe that Sally would wait for decades?
This isn't even a shipping debate at this point. Twenty five years is an insane amount of time to just wait
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>>573770701
sex with amy in a bff way
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FUCK
KEN
PENDERS

I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY
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>>573770071
>Bu-but they're practically family!!!
Yeah, yet more evidence in favor. Thanks again to that one Tailsfag dating his cousin for further vindication.
>except for his age
Don't see that being an issue for her, funny kisses and all.
>>573770381
I imagine him a lot like how Prince Albert was to Queen Victoria. Super interested in all sorts of scientific and industrial shit plus doing the occasional public event (2nd biggest hero in the country, only behind Sonic) while Sally handled all the actual politics like Queen Anne and the aforementioned Victoria.
>Plus, if they’re related then they get to keep their royalty in the family.
Sally was part fox in SatAM, Rosemary looks suspiciously similar to her, and Amadeus was a major military office for King Max, so the pieces are there, if scattered across different continuities.
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>>573770318
>Amy has been lobotomized by Sega of America and you're never getting her back
If recent IDW and TMOSTH are any indication, even people writing stuff thibk SoA overcorrected her personality.

I went over her dialogur in Final Horizon and its obviously that her voice direction and her sounding like a level-headed 40 year old white woman is the issue moreso than the dialogue she had.
That's something that can be fixed.
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>>573771045
Why the fuck is Sonic wincing over a little gut punch
holy shit I hate Archie
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>>573770701
Amyfags pls send nudes thx
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>>573771104
I'm not even an Archiefag and I don't see what the problem with that is.
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Sally is a somewhat interesting character in SatAM, not like Sonic, but her way of talking and doing things adds to the show. Antoine, Rotor weren't. Bunnie was interesting too. But Archie Sally? Before Flynn she was just actively dislikable to me.
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>>573770318
>IS ROUGE A HAREM PROTAGONIST NOW?
Yes
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>>573771150
why are amySTACIES so hot?
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If I understand correctly ( didn't watch satam and didn't read archie) in satam sally is more of a love interest who is sexually interested in Sonic but not in love with him. She would fall in love with him if the show had a season 3 but Penders ruined it with his monkey schizo behavior

Archie Sally basically sounds like a typical comicbook girlfriend fucking every male in sight to the point that it's questionable if she would have ever settled on the main hero.

Both of them have (i assume) never interacted with an in-character Sonic but Sally doesn't seem to enjoy the free spirit stuff (slap)

Also if Penders was allowed to explore his autism she would bang Shad

Am I a Sally expert now?
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>>573771104
>>573771181
He's thinking about the baby he put inside of Fi getting turned into mush.
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>>573771232
I never seen an amystacy before. How fucking hot are we talking about?
And are fionaposters fags or stacies? I been wondering about that.
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>>573771184
Archie Sally was literally a villain under Penders. She actively worked against Sonic and made situations worse filling the narrative role of a villain
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>>573771184
I think Sally is great in SatAM but I hate SatAM Sonic. He is just as annoying as Movie Sonic and I feel like nostalgia is the only reason oldfags can handle his constant quipping. It's literally the same crap movienic does except 90s instead of 2020s. He doesn't even sound like an actual 90s kid, he sounds like someone trying to parody 90s kids.
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>>573771409
>Archie Sally was literally a villain under Penders.
Damn, that's based.
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>>573770878
They proudly show how Sonic had children with Sally so probably yeah.

>>573771409
He said that she cramped his style after trying to kill her off so I’m not surprised
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>>573770318
>WOULD YOU ARGUE ABOUT WHAT FUCKING COLOR SONIC IS???????????
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Fuck I really hate this fucking conversation right now.
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>>573771540
I didn’t grow up with SatAm, except for a little bit of AoSTH, so I’d have to say it’s charisma. Movienic doesn’t have that. He’s got Ohio rizz.
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>>573770801
https://x.com/dongbomu1/status/1903485540982235315?s=46

There’s also more they made
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>>573771558
Archie Sally has
>attempted to put sonic in jail twice
>praised the destruction of an innocent city as the strategic plain
>demanded that Sonic not save Rotor's parents because "Sacrifice is important" (Sonic listened to her)
>Called Sonic treasonous and considered exiling him
>Called Sonic a mutineer
>Slammed Sonic in the face because he completed a mission without following her exact orders
>slapped Sonic in the face because he would rather hunt for Eggman than spend time with her
>Tried to Turn Amy against Sonic thinking he's a bad influence
>made out with a grown man while Sonic watched three times (WHILE THEY WERE DATING)
>Yelled at Sonic for having fun during a mission (under EVERY WRITER)
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>>573771797
Damn, is Sally a /sthg/ Sonic fan?
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>>573770318
>WOULD YOU ARGUE ABOUT WHAT FUCKING COLOR SONIC IS???????????
We should do that more
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>>573771797
>made out with a grown man while Sonic watched three times (WHILE THEY WERE DATING)
Hey man, gotta get that oc tongue action. The reaction of Sonic's uncle to this always made me laugh.
>Yelled at Sonic for having fun during a mission (under EVERY WRITER)
Oof, come on Sal.
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If Penders had his way Sally would have been complicit in an attempt to execute Sonic for blocking her revenge on Eggman
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>>573771627

>>573771719
Was that the same artist who drew on the white board of his Blaze doll painting? It’s a very distinct style.
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>>573771998
but why would sonic protect eggman?
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This Sally bitch sounds like kind of an asshole honestly
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I have come to the grim realization that Auraver predates Crossworlds
https://www.deviantart.com/dimitri100/art/Silver-vs-Sage-944899785
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>>573771998
To be fair, not killing Eggman can't be taken seriously.
>>573772056
Eggman is his true love.
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>>573772056
He wasn't. King Acorn was going to raze everything between him and Eggman and Sonic put a stop to it because innocent people were going to get hurt. This resulted in Sally turning away from Sonic and King Acorn attempting to execute Sonic. A lot of people here are misreading the Penders files too since the "Elias death" story wasn't set in the future, it was the present day set up for the sh*dally endgame
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>>573772097
Amy?
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>>573772097
Rosemary...
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>>573772261
Rosemary and Sally are the same people.
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Watching Sally's reputation finally be free from blind hate only for someone to ponder if she would date Windnic causing JP purists to remember that they hate her entire existence again
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>>573771540
>He doesn't even sound like an actual 90s kid, he sounds like someone trying to parody 90s kids.
Yes, its very "hello fellow kids" tier poochie writing.
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>>573772358
I’d rather take that than endless hours of tailsfags spamming “Boy!”
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>>573772328
Wait, but that'd mean...
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I don't know why anyone would want to date windnic
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>>573772439
Whenever people use the era to defend Satamnic I remember you can literally watch movies from the 90s and nobody fucking talks like that unless the entire joke is about how "hip" they're sounding.
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>>573772505
He's good looking, heroic, and confident. However, yeah, he'd make a shitty boyfriend, but women aren't logical.
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>>573772008
It’s based on their work, but I’m sure it’s not them
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You're snorting coke if you attempt to pair Archie Sally with Windnic.
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>>573772715
archie sally is ooc
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>>573772652
I can believe that women would fall in love with Sonic but anyone lucky enough to date him would quickly realize how horrible a personality trait "doesn't compromise" is.
He literally asked Amy out on a date and then changed his mind on the day of the date because he doesn't have the mental ability to commit to an idea for multiple days. If he doesn't feel like it anymore he won't just stick to the plan.
If he wasn't literally saving the world this is the grounds for an annoying person.
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>>573772135
Yeah, but it was comparatively obscure.
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>>573772715
Ian said this would basically just be torture for Sally and wouldn't be fun to watch
I disagree with him, that would have been funny.
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>>573772358
Sally is the Shadow of Western Sonic. A character that is almost as well known as the blue blur with an insufferable fanbase who want her back. The difference is that Shadow was an SoJ creation who overshadowed (pun intended) Sonic for a brief period of time while Sally...You know, I have no fucking idea why anyone would push for her.

Maybe her fans just want to fuck her, I don't know.
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>>573772743
Sonic is like the Wind, and Sally is like an oak tree. The former can blow through the later, carrying seed to where it needs to go, but it can never stick around for too long before heading off for the next destination.
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anons, what are your favorite non sonic games?
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>>573772848
Emzberry would never understand.
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>>573772632
Yeah anyone telling you "it was just how it was back then" are full of shit. Yes there were instances of it back then and peoplr clowned on all of those for being out of touch and posershit.
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I remember when people were seething at Sonic for losing patience with the jade wisp even though that is literally his character. If he doesn't care about what you have to say he isn't going to humor you. That is consistent and part of the reason why he spends so much time alone.
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>>573772848
Yeah, Sonic would be incredibly annoying as a friend.
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>>573773007
Gunstar Heroes, Metal Combat, Sin & Punishment, Mendel's Palace
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>>573773007
Right now I wanna play The Warriors. I just saw the movie for the first time on YouTube the other night and now I really wanna play the game. Been watching some gameplay videos of it.
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>>573772505
He's cool and confident and in his own element, self sufficient, charismatic and good natured while still being a rebel.
On top of that, him being romance averse makes him more tired less because people want what they cant have. It makes him look like a coveted prize.
Its telling that people talk about "winning the Sonicbowl" rather than arguing about which guy the female lead ends up with like in every other fandom instead.
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Sonic is the kind of guy to put his feet on your fucking table
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>>573773007
Mega man, im honestly just catching up on sonic games right now while i wait for dual over ride
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>>573773117
It's because he acted to whiny and rude.
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Sonic
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>>573773117
If something isn't consistently shown then it's going to cause whiplash
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>>573772505
>573772505
He has high sex appeal
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>>573772848
>He literally asked Amy out on a date and then changed his mind on the day of the date because he doesn't have the mental ability to commit to an idea for multiple days. If he doesn't feel like it anymore he won't just stick to the plan
When did this happen? Black Knight? Didnt he get sucked into Camelot and thats why he missed it?
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>>573772970
>Sally is like an oak tree.
Not even a Sallyfag. I find her meh and her fans are annoying but I actually like that for her.
Good for Sallyfags. That
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>>573773180
I understand the "winning" aspect but can you actually imagine being Sonic's girlfriend? He genuinely sounds so annoying. He seems like the kind of guy to just ignore phone calls if he isn't in the mood to talk.
>>573773304
Sonic X. Sonic asks Amy for a date. The following day he doesn't feel like it any more and ignores her for the whole day. At the end of the day he comes around and almost apologizes before changing his mind and deciding he would go have fun instead, causing Amy to cry.
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>>573773117
Windnic written properly actually does a great service for Tails as a character too, cause it immediately makes one wonder what the hell that little mutant fox has that makes Sonic so fond of him.
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>>573773180
This is why Archienic has less fangirls. Although Scourge and even Zonic do.
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>>573773007
Megaman, Etrian Odyssey, F-zero, Zelda, Fire Emblem, Digimon.
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Silver
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>>573773180
>>573773445
I see a lot of men debating about that new anime where a girl immediately loses interest in being friends with a guy when she realizes he just wants to fuck her. I don't think a lot of guys realize how much that kind of thing can be a turn off. It means that your friendship is really just a means to get laid and that is actually part of the reason why game Sonic is more appealing to women. There is no chance he is pursuing you.
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Shadow
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>>573773410
>sage asks sonic questions
>sonic eventually tells her to cut it out if he's not going to get answers
>sage asks tails questions
>she gets satisfactory answers
this is a way to characterize Sonic and Tails. This gets lost if you make Sonic more patient.
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>>573773393
>Sonic X.
Ooh, I remember that epsiode. I always thought it was more him just forgetting and not prioritizing it, rather than him just changing his mind.

>>573773393
>I understand the "winning" aspect but can you actually imagine being Sonic's girlfriend? He genuinely sounds so annoying. He seems like the kind of guy to just ignore phone calls if he isn't in the mood to talk.
Oh for sure.
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>>573773530
I'd like to know the name of said anime and to see said discussions around it
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>>573773530
>It means that your friendship is really just a means to get laid
Bullshit.

If I'm upfront about wanting to fuck, I'm coming on too strong and am wrong. However, if I get to know her before trying to fuck her, I am also wrong. That's retarded.
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Amy
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>>573773750
A friend isn't a girlfriend. What if she loves someone else but enjoys your company? That discomfort will always be there. She could not talk to you like her other friends any more
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>>573773530
It's really because Archoe Sonic comes off as a simp and can appear a bit two-faced at times. Girls probably don't like that. Game Sonic is unobtainable but is also very co in a genuine way, he's basically everything he presents himself as.

Scourge fucks chicks, but has that raw bad boy shit going on with him and it's very apparent attempting to go out with this guy is a very bad decision, but girls like that because they want the thrill and also be the one to finally "tame" him (it won't happen).
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>>573773750
You're not supposed to make friends with girls before you date them stupit that's called shitting where you eat
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>>573773839
is a neurotic mess
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>>573773869
>What if she loves someone else but enjoys your company?
Doesn't exist. Closest thing is woman hanging around gay men cause they don't see them as a threat.
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>>573773445
Scourge provides a corruption fantasy since he is all in on just being a dick.
I dont know much about Zonic.

>>573773530
I think that's a good observation. In their mind, if Sonic does show interest its for romance reasons rather than just wanting to score and collect armcandy.

You would think then every girl would flock to Amy then since getting him to turn around is part of her angle, but I guess the self improvement angle turns them off.
A lot of girls wanna believe they are just innately desirable and special and important.
Probably why Sonadow is popular.
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Despite Archie Sonic being known as the Sonic who dates, if you compile all his romantic ventures based on what has happened and was planned to happen, he's actually a beta male compared to other Sonics.
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Metal
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>>573774004
The guys and the girls are both entirely wrong in this debate. The girls are attempting to make a reasonable sounding scenario and the guys are attempting to come up with scenarios where it is acceptable to be sexually aggressive. Both are wrong.
The truth is simple. If she likes you you can get away with it. If she is uncertain then you're playing with fire. You will never, ever be able to know if she likes you until you're already through the gate. There is no point in blaming all women because the rules of the game will never change. It's up to you to risk the threat of rejection straight away.
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>>573774165
No kidding.
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men are becoming sonic and women don't like that
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>>573774231
You've unironically made a good argument for men to rape, drug, and take advantage of drunken women. If there is no correct route and that "if she likes you you can get away with it" then a man should do whatever to get his dick wet.

And should also keep a lawyer on speed dial.
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>>573774231
It doesn’t help when everyone is a ho. From the guys, to the girls, and to the parents. We got a femanon in this general earlier today who admitted to only sleeping with older men when she was younger. Everyone is a ho.
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>>573774165
>if you compile all his romantic ventures based on what has happened and was planned to happen, he's actually a beta male compared to other Sonics.


Ahem
>the universe warped space and time to eliminate his current relationship
>there are two timelines where he gets married
>one where eggman kills him
>one where he only got to spend five years with Sally before the universe imploded
>in satam, Sally rejects the idea of being sonic's girlfriend
>in penders shadow files, there are two different timelines where sally chooses shadow over sonic
>bollers wanted sonic to end up with Amy
>penders tried to kill Sally off to get rid of her
>flynn attempted to pair sally with her watch
>prime sally dated geoffry and monkey khan
>ian making sally wait for sonic created a scenario in which penders feels justified publishing a book with ian's name on it
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/sthg/ you ever done something you regret
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>>573774468
I didn't jump.
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>>573774468
Oh geez, what does the frog from TADC indicate?
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>>573772949
It would only be torment if she wasn’t written in character desu
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>>573774421
I don't know about all that. I'm just saying that there is no system you can game. If you befriend a girl and she isn't attracted to you there is no way to game it. These people aren't computers. Either she likes you or she never will. You can't "character develop" her into liking you. You can't put on a DBZ scanner and check to see her odds of liking you before proceeding.

Girls saying befriend her first are just trying to find a nice way to tell ugly guys that there is an alternative to being direct.
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>>573774592
I don't know enough about Sally to understand what "in-character" means for her so explain
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>>573774468
Getting into Sonic
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>>573774251
Sonic is such a ladykiller that it rubbed off on Tails. Bros being bros, they probably high-five each other.
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>>573774594
>If you befriend a girl and she isn't attracted to you there is no way to game it.
Men cannot be friends with girls. There is no such thing. Either she's using him for something or he's expecting to get his dick wet. Only exception is gay men.

>Girls saying befriend her first are just trying to find a nice way to tell ugly guys that there is an alternative to being direct.
Ergo, get her drunk and fuck her. No point wasting time.
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Did even think about how I felt sthg
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>>573762508
>Mina
Mina and Tails actually makes sense when you look at how Tails is characterized at the end of Preboot. Literally just Archie Sonic but smart.
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>>573774837
Who are (You)? Are (You) drunk?
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>>573774828
>Men cannot be friends with girls. There is no such thing. Either she's using him for something or he's expecting to get his dick wet. Only exception is gay men.
That isn't true. Maybe if youre like 14 and even then not true.
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>>573773172
I've heard it's excellent. It's PS2-era Rockstar, so that's probably true in any case, but apparently it's a great game despite being based on a movie, which is rare in and of itself.
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>>573774461
>ian making sally wait for sonic created a scenario in which penders feels justified publishing a book with ian's name on it
if Ian didn't attempt to fix Penders's Shadally story then he wouldn't be dealing with this shit today
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>>573773007
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>>573773007
Zelda and Kirby, I mostly play the handheld these days though (like Minish Cap and The Amazing Mirror)

>>573774581
Isolating a friend to the point of suicide. That’s what happened after the frog girl asked that question to the bpdemon rabbit
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>>573774468
Discovering the internet
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Years of Archie intent discourse have finally resulted in Shadally being the official intent.
You did this sthg. Ian's favorite and least favorite characters were going to fornicate because of you.
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>>573774828
>Ergo, get her drunk and fuck her. No point wasting time.
No. You just need to be right the first time you advance on her. You don't need to rape
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>>573774991
Monster House ps2 was also pretty solid. I think the 2000s was the best era for movie/TV tie-in games. Plus the movie predates the game by 26 years, which is highly unusual for a video game adaptation, and its Rockstar so of course it was gonna be good.
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>>573775153
I'm so tired of Ian hating Shadow.
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>>573775251
Maybe this is what he deserves
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>>573773232
Im pretty sure he's literally done this in X actually.
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>>573775129
That sounds like ostracizing. Is that what you meant?
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>>573775251
He's a Knucklesfag. He has to.
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>>573771045
>Don't see that being an issue for her, funny kisses and all.
Literally kisses a mother would give to her child, kys tailspedo. Sailly doesn't swing that way for Tails.
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>>573774704
As in she would move on to the next guy. She has had crushes on other men in both SatAM/Archie, so basically it wouldn’t be the end of the world if she had a crush that didn’t work out.
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>>573775175
If you're wrong once, you're a harasser with a reputation so it doesn't matter. Unironically, a woman being able to ruin a man's reputation means that the Quagmire approach is the only valid one.
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>>573775328
I think realistically Sally would be fickle and fall for Sonic whenever he's around, then fall out of love with him whenever she remembers why it won't work. She doesn't take it personally in satam when he runs from her
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>>573774757
>Sonic is such a ladykiller that it rubbed off on Tails.
>one non canon, one in a nuked timeline au, and one that cucked tails constantly
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>>573775320
Why? Is it because he suspects Douge when there's nothing about the two of them that's romantic? Rouge barely even reacted to Shadow getting raped by zombots, and even if she had she's a damned greedy whore. Knuckles deserves better than her.
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>>573775304
Yes, my bad

>>573775000
He would be dealing with the wrath of shippers anyhow
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If you're scared of being seen as a creep then never approach a woman. Be like Sonic and let them chase you until they get bored.
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>>573774165
>>573774251
It's actually the opposite. Canon Sonic doesn't go for women. Other Sonic's actually have a sex drive, even if some of them are cucks.
>>573774757
Tails also gets cucked constantly or the people who he love die one way or another.
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>>573775742
>be like Sonic
>handsome
>attractive
>powerful
>desirable
I'm none of those things though.
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>>573775490
>he suspects Douge when there's nothing about the two of them that's romantic
Anon, I...
>t. Shadriafag
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How to Interact with Women
>1. Smile
>2. Be personable
>3. Say, "I hate women," at least once in your first conversation
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Samefagging tonight quork?
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Does anyone remember that video of a girl explaining that she got a guy she liked into her house ready to bang, but when she said no he actually stopped and eventually left. She was frustrated that he didn't understand that he should have pinned her down at that point.
The truth is you will never know. Get a girlfriend now and do it right so you won't have to keep guessing. Or just be free with all that shit like Sonic
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>>573774757
Cringe and OoC
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>>573775939
That might’ve been me she was talking about. What was the video?
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>>573776021
Anon, you're not supposed to be free like the wind in real life you fucking dick
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>>573775581
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>>573775863
There isn't anon. And even if there was, acting like a spurned lover on behalf of Knuckles is unsightly. He's literally taking out his self-insert ship not working out on Shadow.
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Yeah she's samefagging
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>>573776086
At this point cuckoldry is a consistent theme with this fucking character
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>>573775321
>Getting this mad over a joke more than three decades old now
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>>573775490
A portion of Knucklesfags have a chip on their shoulder over Shadow being more popular and perceive Shadow as having "snubbed" Knuckles out of being the "rival" even though he didn't.
They blame Shadow's popularity for Knuckles' lack of perceived relevance and his issues in terms of writing and utilization in stories.
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>>573775939
Women are fucking morons.
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>>573776060
Nah that chick was weird. I ask for her number and she invites me to her apartment instead. She’s one of those army children that went to university. I don’t remember why but for some reason we started talking about sado-masochism. Idk she was one of those weird art chicks. I’m glad nothing came of it.
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>>573776197
Then Knucklesfags need to learn more from windfags. Instead Ian writes fanfiction about how stupid Shadow is. It's pathetic.
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>>573775939
I remember a video like this going viral and the girl was able to clearly verbalize why what she wanted to happen was potentially dangerous for other women
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Tails bros...we're never going to be important again.
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>>573775742
I just accepted i would always be seen as the creep the moment a girl picked a drug addict that tried to punch her in the face over me, just kinda gave up on everything after that, went from feeling confident and strong to feeling very confused and bad the next day, i just had to accept im ugly and worthless to women
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>>573776927
if you start killing ppl women will like you again
not necessarily women you want to be with, but
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What Ian does is stupid, but I'm more concerned about the fandom putting Knuckles' traits onto Shadow than him having Sonic Team's favoritism
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>>573774468
Yeah, but all of them implies murder so maybe it was ok not to do that, or maybe not
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https://files.catbox.moe/3p1vh0.mp4
I found it
Everyone can keep arguing now
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>>573769137
Based
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LEGSiona?
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I would kill Ian Flynn if given the chance.
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>>573778418
Me too, and all this moralfaggotry it's just a facade. All of these faggots would kill us all if given the chance, and make fun of our deaths anyways.

War is war.
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>>573778418
Sega are just gonna replace him with an AI trained on his writing so you aren't actually solving anything.
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>>573778524
>Sega
>Anagram of Sage
>AI replacing organics
>Language used as a tool to shield deception
>Retroactive alterations of personalities, right down to who loves who
Bravo Kojima...
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>>573778418
Randomfox...
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>>573768970
Wish we can turn back time.
To the good dope dayyss.
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>>573769137
Real Silverfan rapes blazefags
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>>573779298
The chilling thing about Randomfox is that he isn't anonymous at all. He happily posted his own face
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DEAD GENERAL
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>>573766938
>Hot take: Sonally isn’t even that bad conceptually, even in the context of Windnic.
Are you fucking drunk
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There's more similarities between game Sonic and Movie Knuckles than game Sonic and Archienic
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>>573781168
Such as?
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>>573766938
That is not Sonic and Tails's dynamic dipshit
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>>573781270

Movie Knuckles complained that he hates being tied down and living in a home, would rather go on adventures and the only reason he remains on earth is because he doesn't break promises. then he goes on a random adventure teaching some loser human how to be badass. That describes canon Sonic but not Archienic.
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>>573781010
We South Eastern Asian(the majority dwellers of sthg) are slowly realizing that Sonic is actually not very good
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I'm actually annoyed. Never let Sonallyfaggots talk about characterization again. "Brains and brawn". Ugh.
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>>573781562
You are getting mad at offbrand oldfags for having an oldfag offbrand read on the characters
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I don't see the point in getting mad at shippers for mischaracterization when thats literally all they do
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>When someone asks why
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>>573782110
SONIC ISN'T A FUCKING HERO
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>>573782175
then why come he said...
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idk why anyone is surprised

there is still no sonic game where you can even run at the speed of sound
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Hi sthg
My penis is being sucked by (Your) favorite mobian
Yes my testicles are dancing on their chin and I am about to ejaculate
That is all.
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>>573782642
Big wouldn't do that
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>>573782642
THAT HAD TO BE ME!
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>>573766938
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>>573782642
Silver would do that
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>>573783046
If Archie never existed there wouldn't be characterization debates
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>>573783224
If Sonic was good maybe we would actually care
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>>573783224
If Archie never existed, there would be arguments over Sonic X being in character instead
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>>573783370
I'm old enough to remember when gamefags were going on youtube to seethe about how OOC Sonic X is actually. Especially about Amy not getting to talk to Shadow.
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>>573783415
>Amy not getting to talk to Shadow
That was less about redeemamy not getting to do her job and more about Chris stealing yet another spotlight.
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>>573783415
Funny how before Movie 3 came out people were saying that it absolutely has to happen but the movie turned out to be good enough that nobody cared if Sonic stole Amy's job
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>>573783224
If there wasn't an American canon, there wouldn't be characterization debates.
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If Sega actually listened to Penders when he asked for character and lore notes there wouldn't be characterization debates
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>>573769717
If Archie was in character the Sally hate would be even worse than the Lanolin hate because instead of being disagreeable to some teen douchebag she would have to be disagreeable to the guy who is right all the time
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Wft, I like Zavok now
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>>573783834
The problem was he asked Sega of America not Sega of Japan.
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You were just metal code at first
A voice inside the screen
I kept my distance, played it close
Wasn't sure what you mean
Every word you calculated felt too cold to trust
Mongoose hearts beat wild and free
But yours was made of rust

There was static between us, static in the air
I wondered if you truly cared or just a ghost in there
But now the noise is fading out, I finally understand
That suspicion leaves you lonely when you're holding someone's hand

You proved yourself through actions though your heart can't bleed
Fought beside us, took our pain, showed what loyalty could mean
I judged what made you, not who you were beneath the wire
And I'm sorry I couldn't see past my own fears and fire

There was static between us, static in the air
I wondered if you truly cared or just a ghost in there
But now the noise is fading out, I finally understand
That suspicion leaves you lonely when you're holding someone's hand

Forgiveness doesn't fix the past, it just lets light come in
And maybe all we really need is somewhere to begin
From doubt to something softer now, I'm ready to believe
Not everything digital means there's nothing left to grieve

So here's my hand, holo-lynx, no more walls to raise
Through the static, through the silence, we can find our way
Trust isn't given freely, it's built day by day
And I'm building it with you today
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>>573783710
Retarded take. Barely anyone even cares about American canon.
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EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE IN CHARACTER
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I would have gotten away with it, too, if (You) didn't exist!!
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ooc girlfriend
off model boyfriend
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>>573784967
Non canon children
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Sonamy is the worst ship ever
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>Angel Island Zone, Act 1
Sonic, I chuckle!
>Angel Island Zone, Act 2
Sonic, I chuckle!
>Hydrocity Zone, Act 2
Sonic, I chuckle!
>Carnival Night Zone, Act 2
Sonic, I chuckle!
>Launch Base Zone, Act 1
Sonic, I chuckle!
>Launch Base Zone, Act 2
Sonic, I chuckle!
Notice that this is the last time he chuckled in his life.
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this quote is fucking GRIM

“Sonic kind of exists as a symbol for SEGA, if Sonic is doing well, then I think the whole company will do well too. Actually, certain developments were only made possible because the Sonic movie did so well, and we hope to be able to use this and connect it to the success of our other IPs.”

Also
“I think last year was pretty tough. As we already talked about, there was the difficulty with Rovio, and we had aimed for global development expansion of Sonic related titles, but didn’t reach our goal. The new Sonic game was well made, and honestly I had wanted it to sell more. Taking those results into account, we are now proceeding with measures to ‘add more selling power to each title’.”

Crossworlds confirmed big flop
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Extreme urge to kiss the anon above me for some reason
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>>573787146
Kiss him you must
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>>573787146
i just have extreme urges to breed/be bred by everyone on /sthg/ so
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>>573787486
*sips*
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dam blazefags all over the place being suicidal everywhere
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Rouge is a virgin and only loves shiny rocks.
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>>573787914
It is like they are blaming IDW for being an irrelevant character, when IDW is the only place that cares about her.
Her only interaction with Knuckles comes from IDW
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>>573788245
Same for Silver
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so now we know sega basically treats sonic like a low priority title
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>>573788125
she's not a virgin because she takes Shadow's cock often
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>>573787685
Sip on this, babe.
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>>573788608
I think Blaze should be fat
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>>573788471
Only shadowfags believe it.
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>>573787124
>Crossworlds confirmed big flop
Well yeah, it was a $90 mario kart clone.
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>>573788739
You are going to hell
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Cute
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>>573790446
why is he so fucking muscular
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>>573790150
People can go to hell for having good taste?
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>>573790534
That's not muscular. The proportions are different because it's supposed to be a movie interpretation of his design
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>>573778367
Metalbros...
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>movie sonic still acting like an early teen
>the humans in the movies blatantly aging
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You now realize the Sonic 3D Blast was not a platformer.
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>>573782632
According to the devs, Doubleboost is faster than or equal to lightspeed.
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>>573783415
Whats not what OoC means you retard. People didnt complain about OoC with X. They complained about discrepancies in the plot and characters getting snubbed.
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>>573792059
>movie
Didn't watch them not my problem.
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>>573792059
Sonic age at a different rate than humans.
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>>573792369
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yummy
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>>573787914
Blazefags literally choose Blaze as their favorite because they have main character syndrome.
Somewhere in their minds they get the sense Silver is somrthing she is relegated to, but instead they wanna blame his existence and claim he is "snubbing" her as a cope for the fact Blaze is just a mess of a character to use in stories that arent low stakes.
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>>573792630
I will genocide sharks for her.
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Why didn't Silver stop WW2
Why didn't Silver save Maria
Why didn't Silver stop Eggman from turning evil
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>>573792059
>movie sonic still acting like an early teen
That's why Amy is coming in. Sonic's gonna drop the comics and rizz her up.
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>>573793095
Making Silver not able to time travel at will is probably the best idea the Sonic team has ever got, even if they probably not even aware why
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>35 years
>Still no canon elephant mobian
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>>573793995
>canon
>mobian
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Have a lovely sunday morning.
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>>573794103
Everything is canon until told otherwise. Sega doesn't say anything, so first come first served
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>>573793995
This post just reminds me of the one youtuber that kept commissioning edits of elephant daisy
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>>573785920
It kinda bothered me there was no Knuckles encounter in Marble Garden, IceCap, Flying Battery and Sandopolis. Could anyone think of where to add him?
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>>573794170
>sunday morning
Yo I freaking love that song!
https://youtu.be/PiBX-ESFDF0
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>>573788739
I have a twin!
https://litter.catbox.moe/d8uwwi.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/4kduy5.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/d3jcl1.jpg
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>>573794170
You too Amyanon!
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>>573793095
Those events are very important
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>>573774251
We kinda don't put Rouge in Surge's place because Rouge kinda flirts with anyone really
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>>573795161
can i see? i like how this person drew her face, i find it really cute
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>>573795367
Ayyo I gotsa axe you the sauce mang
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>>573795471
You stole her skin!!
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>>573795367
>I don't need to get up b-baka!
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>>573794307
I don't understand how you can possibly learn about this stuff unless you're also into this stuff
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There has to be a better way to say "Sonic isn't a hero" because he's objectively a hero and there are super heroes with similar motivations to him. He just isn't some masked crusader consciously protecting the world and upholding peace forever.
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>>573795676
every image is singed
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I think Blaze should be buff
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>>573796051
Blaze is a girly, a princess to be rescued by Silver.
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>>573795972
im not into mario or fat bitches and I know about it
that joke isnt that niche
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>>573793096
OoC
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>>573795972
because it was absurd and became a huge meme? like you don't understand that 90% of artists that ever drew Daisy had a DM from this guy asking to do the same drawing but as a elephant, because of the one elephant power up in Mario Wonder. When I saw that I just knew people would do devious shit with that and I wasn't wrong, there's a ton of elephant fruit transformed girls art but again
the one youtuber made it even more mainstream by giving people money for a shitpost. Well, maybe he is into it a lot but it comes across more like a meme than a fetish thing.
and you are correct, i am into chubby girls but i think elephant daisy is kinda gross. i would like her 2% more if she wasn't entirely bald too.
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>>573796079
[Verse 1]
Silver hedgehog, future dreams
Dirty boots, frayed seams
Turnip soup, tattered cloak
Common blood, that's no joke
Royal court, golden throne
You came in all alone
Market stall, two cents paid
Bow your head right now, I said!
[Chorus]
You'll always be a peasant!
It was set since birth, yes since the kingdom's turning
You'll always be a peasant!
No, it's not your fault,
But the crown, it still burns!
[Verse 2]
Carriage rides, velvet robes
Silver sweeps, castle roads
Tax collectors at the door
Silver owes the Crown three more
Feast night, Silver stares
Through the window--don't you dare!
Titles sealed, bloodlines locked
You're just good at farmin' rocks!
You'll always be a peasant!
It was set since birth, yes since the kingdom's turning
You'll always be a peasant!
No, it's not your fault
But the crown, it still burns!
[Verse 3: Blackwood enters]
Nobleman Blackwood, silver tongue
Leaning in, his charm begun
Low voice, slow smile, candle glow
Whispered promises, wouldn't ya know
"Come with me, I'll change your stars,
Gift you silks and fishy treats
Give you lands, titles grand,
Just one kiss upon my hand!"

Silver flustered, turns away
Blaze rolls eyes, had her say,
Blackwood winks, tips his trap
Goes right back into catnap!
"NO, back on track!"
Castle walls, knight's command
Silver mops the royal hall
Courtiers laugh, jugglers jape
Silver's stuck with rake and scrape
Purple cloak, jewel-crown
Blaze looks down with half a frown
"You're sweet," she sighs, "but face the truth,
You're in the dirt beneath my boot!"
[Final Chorus: building, dramatic]
You'll always be a peasant!
It was set since birth, yes since the kingdom's turning
You'll always be a peasant!
No, it's not your fault
But the crown still burns! Still burns!
[Outro: spoken]
Blaze: ...Though, between us,
I hear the lord's estate
is quite accommodating.
You could do worse, Silver.
Silver: ...What does that mean?
Blaze: Never mind...Go wax something with your head.
You'll Always Be A Peasant!
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>>573795987
There isn't one. Anyone eho actually pays attention Can tell you that Sonic isn't a do-gooding hero character.
The people that don't are simply not paying attention and attribute to him these traits as a defacto rather than coming away with it based on how he is presented.

There are also seemingly people that want him to act like one because they project Spiderman onto him and Spiderman's thing is being covky and reckless and learning to be more responsible and conventional.

People that argue otherwise with you are being bad faith on purpose to subvert you.
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>>573796720
I like Sunday Morning by No Doubt better.
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>>573796720
What is this a parody of?
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>>573796079
This. So much this.
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>>573797472
The Billy Joel song I think?
>It was always burning, since the world's been turning
Seems like it clumsily became the kingdom/crown.
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hello?
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>>573802058
Shut up peasant.
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>>573802385
>>573802520
I see the appeal of IDW now
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>>573802058
Alone! 𝖆lon𝖊 alone 𝓪lone Alone 𝔞lone ƎИO⅃A
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>>573802385
>>573802520
god they are perfect
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>it's now Sega's fault that they don't view Crossworlds as a success
>even tho they are behind all the numbers
Kill all nuFans
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>game company is baffled that altmedia sales don't translate to game sales
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>>573803513
bun buns
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>>573804058
Did Sega really think the movie Normies would actually buy Sonic games?
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>>573804117
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING TO MY peasant BITCH?!?
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>>573804236
They thought they could shove Miku and spongebob into a kart racer and people would eat it up. Sega is delusional.
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I wanted to talk about Sally now with some minimum non-retorts decent assertions made here regarding, but I'm empathetic and don't wanna, say, somehow fish up an Anomalous Anaconda Bestiaus specimen off corners blurting its sacs onto us...

I will be succinct here. I just wanna say I really like her and that god, I gotta shove a pineapple up my younger self ass before reading Archie wholly whom complied with mass cattle on their retorts she's the worst or something. She isn't, far off. That title goes to Locke, Max and Geoffrey, all specifically under Penders.

All under Penders, which two of them which made more than necessary impasses and manipulations on Sally. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, such is the marvelous world of coincidences, wouldn't you think so!
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>>573804058
Great job creating the most "secondary" generation of fans, Sega
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Delivery for anon >>573529186
https://files.catbox.moe/mwehmc.png
Well, not really a deliberately, I couldn’t draw Blaze getting fucked, the angle was weird, so I did my own thing instead
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>"secondary"
Why are we gatekeeping Sonic of all franchises when this shitty IP was always meant to catch the most impressionable retarded kids and teens from inception from generation to generation?
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>>573804469
Movie fans are fans of the movie, not the game
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Penders
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>>573804637
came instantly
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>>573804796
because we are the most elite of all retards and fledgling tardlets should have to put in the work to join our ranks instead of waltzing in
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>>573804637
Great job drawguy.
>>573804637
>I couldn’t draw Blaze getting fucked, the angle was weird, so I did my own thing instead"
That's ok, it's nice. Although if you're wondering how it would work, there's this position where female lies on her back while male is on top of him, just saying. Anyways, great work, thank you.
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>>573804798
No, I don't even think it's the moviefans. Case in point, Mario games are doing well with its movie. It's unironically the fucking comicbook. Sega had multiple chances to kill the comics off and didn't. Now we have zoomers who read the comics and whose idea of "playing" the games is maybe watching some letsplayer, if that. Nintendo knew not to license a main Western comic series, and that's not just they can smell Flynn's rote-wikimemorization off the elevator: it's because they were smart enough to foresee what Sega's struggling with right now. The comics are a blight on this franchise.
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Newer fans will be secondaries because its been four fucking years since the last actual mainline Sonic game and the one before that is nine years old
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>>573804637
Canon
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>>573805529
I know. I looked up many positions for references but I couldn't get it right. I am really bad at drawing the lower back, from the hips to the crotch, in humans, and now also with mobians, even if they don't really have hips.
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Just fyi, the people here screeching most of secondaries are dark age faggots whom were then screeched over and over from classicfags as secondaries.

So no, you guys aren't any better. If anything, dark age virgins arguably buying anything off 2000s is what led to this mess we're in. You guys made the bed and you won't lie in it.
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>>573805797
No worries, you did your best and I appreciate the results.
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>>573805857
You say that like frontiers and the movies aren't pandering to dark age fans
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>>573805857
Yeah but they are also the reason why the franchise survived too. We are all part of this like it or not
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The World Cup Semi-Finals have been set:

Amy vs Spain
Knuckles vs Silver
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>>573806007
This is what I mean, they are secondaries themselves too. Objectively speaking, only classic fags aren't.

>>573806091
>why the franchise survived too
Sure, if you think living enough to be a zombie is good.
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>>573806095
For the sake of consistency I suggest making Spain Vanilla
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2000s fans are the real fans, everyone else is a rapist
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>>573806095
>Silver manipulated the ball to fall under his feet
He would do that
Or wouldn't?
He didn't cheat playing poker, and he has that sense of justice, doesn't he?
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>>573806250
Sonic was a zombie franchise. Not anymore. Even some zombies can truly come back to live
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>>573806484
But I'm a 2000s fan and I like fapping to Sonic raping Tails...
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>>573806518
He'll always play fair
Until you piss him off
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>>573806680
If you like 2000s Sonic you aren't allowed to rape
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>>573806518
>>573806692
Fifa is corrupt so there is no point in playing fair.
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>>573806606
If you mean Mania, sure, but I call that as lighting struck in the bottle. Right after and before that, Sonic remains and will be as zombie.
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"I like IDW Sonic comics"
Translating..
"Yes sir Netanyahu, Glory to Israel"
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>>573806095
Wasn't Honey Spain? Or was she Brazilian.
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>>573803513
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>>573807447
I forgot if she was Argentinian or Mexican.
Oh wait, she was Venezuelan, wasn't she?
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>>573807938
/sthg/
spics the humans general
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>>573807447
>>573807447
>Honey
>having anything to do with Brazil or Portugal
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>>573793432
Picrel is the kind of SSS story the franchise needs. Absolute cinema
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>SS"S"
tsk tsk tsk, Shitverbro...
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>>573808532
Quite Blazeloser you don't belong with them, go back to being mind controlled or something
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Did you know? Rotor has two canon dads.

>>573784191
We got more than one mod for further sexual flair on Zavok, yes? This one is for muscular, another for giving him a chunky gut. I want one with his manhood on shorts, showing the bulge.
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>>573785920
Knuckles chuckles in Fighters.
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>>573809467
ROTTA RO RAST
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Shin Nakamura hates Sonic.
Akinori Nishimura hates Sonic.
Naka Oshima hates Sonic.
Takashi Iizuka hates Sonic.
Morio Kishimoto hates Sonic.
Eitaro Toyoda hates Sonic.

Eastshit HATES Sonic.
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>>573783603
Movie 3 was so far off-script that you couldn't have put that scene in if you wanted to. It's still better than movie 1, but it's worse than movie 2, and that's a huge problem when you're adapting Sonic Adventure 2 of all things.
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>>573796220
If Sonic is canonically considered a good-looking chick magnet, then how would he not know how to charm a girl?
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>>573794170
You, too!
That's a very cute Amy. Have another.
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>>573803710
It IS Sega's fault. They've flip-flopped on it being a success or failure several times now. First it was a failure, then it sold a million in a month and was a success in their quarterly report, then it didn't sell enough, whatever enough is, so it's a failure again. Sega can't make up their damn mind whether or not it sold well every other quarter.
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>>573810353
Cute!!
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>>573809345
I like to imagine my haters getting absolutely anal gaped by Rotorfag big stinky AIDS cock
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>>573810894
And who are (You)?
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I hate Sonic.
You hate Sonic.
He hates Sonic.
She hates Sonic.
It hates Sonic.
We hate Sonic.
You hate Sonic.
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I like Sonic
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>>573811196
But I love Sonic. That's why I hate nufans and IDWfaggots.
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8,298,979,488 habitants in this planet hates Sonic
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>>573811196
Are there any other hates Sonics I should know about?
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>>573809250
I'm so happy Sonic P-06 and modders are giving us SSS kino since Sonic Team doesn't want to and just wants the franchise to be safe edgy and sterile
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>>573811368
And people like you make me hate Sonic.
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>>573810416
Lesbians are so fucking pathetic bro
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>>573811607
Good.
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>>573810894
Tailspedo!
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>>573811625
So is all of /sthg/ incel men here getting delirious and imagining scenarios on their minds about women ruining their fictional blue rat mascot.
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MarioCHADS won
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>>573811740
Howd you know nigga what tje fuckkk?!!
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>>573812369
... as usual, like always, everyday, since 90s, I mean Mario is a really better franchise anyway.
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>>573811093
Not a Tailspedo
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>>573811592
>Sonic Team doesn't want to and just wants the franchise to be safe edgy and sterile
ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR they just don't wanna bother with shitver because he's a godawful character tied to a godawful game that almost put the franchise in a death bed!

It's okay, Nakamura, I get what's like to be autistic.
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>>573812552
Oh good.
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>>573812785
... but actually I'm a Sonadowtard!
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>>573812221
Hey look, we got a member if the Lore Team in here!
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literally me with my Shadow
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>>573812221
Well that's what I'M doing here, but I can't speak for everyone.
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>>573813045
No arguments? Just like no bitches!
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>>573805857
ClassicGODs won.
SatamGODs won.
AosthGODs won.
ArchieGODs won.
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>>573813397
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOOOOO I CANT COPE WITH THIS TRUVENVKE
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>>573813210
Just like your boy toy Silver. No games.
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>>573813397
>destroys Archie for the second time
>mangles SatAM by proxy
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>>573813205
My penis be like *SPROOINNGG*
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>>573813205
how's that i felt nothing when tits showed but ass awakened my cock
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>>573813807
You don't understand, he chose to die the villain to prevent archie and satam from being mangled by modern corporate culture. He's the LeLouch of the Sonic fandom.
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>>573813938
You might be gay nigga
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Sonic... Adventure.... THREEEEE!!
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>>573814481
That actually would be kinda dope. Just make sure the Japs write it.
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>>573814481
Surge has to be the secondary protagonist for SA3 or Sega is retarded
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>Surge
Who?
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>>573814727
>Who?
My husband (female)
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>>573814618
Evan, [spouler]or Sonurgefag[/spoiler], nobody wants to see your half-baked redemption arc. People wanna see this be a villain all the way through.
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>>573814790
Blaze....
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>>573814764
need to make her fatter, more piglike, and put le red hat of politics on her
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>>573814790
Lanolin.......
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>>573814790
>>573814618
>>573814727
>Surge
Ah, yeah, that IDW OC meant to be a trans allegory.
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>>573812703
Shadow is tied to 4 god awful games and yet he's still here?
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>>573815165
>"Wherever I go I must think of trans"
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>>573814790
>>573814936
>>573815089
>>573815165
wtf are you people talking about?
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>>573814804
>spouler
Oh anon, you! Correct though, the redemption/feels guilt Surge sucks
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>>573814603
No, I want westerners or anyone else writing it just to piss off you retards.
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Redemption Surge is cool actually
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>>573811592
>SSS
Forced meme
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>>573814187
gay?
show me males with great ass
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Going to the beach with Amy to play in the water and ogle her sexy body!
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Amy?
Ah you mean that designated cuck walking joke character!
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>>573815319
Ok, SoE then. At least Europeans aren’t as retarded as we are.
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>Saves your franchise
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>>573815675
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>>573814980
Feel free to add more stuff
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>>573816042
fuuuuuuuuuck i might be gay after all
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>>573816048
That job application will remain empty and unsubmitted.
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>>573814804
>Evan, [spouler]or Sonurgefag[/spoiler],
I'm neither I'm the original surgefag of this general. I just haven't posted in a long time.
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>>573816042
Please Sonic sit on my face
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>>573816027
Shadow wasn't in Frontiers though
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Fury the Cat
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>>573814790
i wish
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>>573816325
Oh I remember you. Where have you been
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>>573816568
Sonic's pov
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>>573815946
uh oh duo melty
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>>573816656
>*Kit
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>>573816591
Playing a lot of fighting games.
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>>573816698
I really like crudely drawn porn, it has a certain charm
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>>573816764
That's her little brother
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>>573816656
nah, me, i want to fuck her brains outs
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>>573816568
Rouge's POV
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>>573816698
again, please sit on my face
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>>573816958
>i want to fuck her brains outs
Starline...
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>>573816958
I knew you were a fag. Redemption is gay.
>>573816912
Nah. Lover.
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>>573817069
Starline is gay
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>>573817070
what the fuck are you talking about, duo? redemption? huh? i just want to fuck the green creature
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>>573817535
Duo is pro-redemption and doesn't ship Kiturge
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>>573817535
Sonic, you’re too weird to have a girlfriend, let alone sex.
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>>573815648
SSS is a real and well-liked trio
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>>573817765
That artist needs to learn how to draw.
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>>573817765
Now this is fucking based
I didn't even consider black lipstick for Surge, oh baby
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>>573805630
>It's unironically the fucking comicbook.
I agree. Comicfags activrly seek comics because they dont wanna engage with the games. They want things to screenshot and form "fandom" around and making the comic so prominent makes it so people can and will just do that instead of actually buying and playing the games.
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>>573818197
Stop self-replying
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>>573817657
how is that related with me wanting to fucking her in the ass? i didn't bring up kit either, i don't ship her with anyone. i feel like i am another plane of existance since people are claiming shit i haven't even said. well that's annoying but i guess this is the prize of just posting cute surges
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>>573810056
These things arent mutually inclusive.
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>>573816027
Now let's see Amy do it. She's a much bigger deal in terms of fandom hype than Shadow and Sonic Team needs to understand that
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>>573818471
You must be illiterate. No one claimed you to be a shipper, but you are skitzo. You will never fuck cartoons.
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>>573817694
According to polls its not even 1/5th the popularity of STK or even SATK.
Its literally just Silverfag laundering scheme
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>>573818459
That other post wasn't me though, schizo
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>>573819357
I can lie too
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>>573818642
huh, i think this is the first time i seen this kind of fanart with blaze, i think i have seen it more with every other sonic and sonic himself 100 times more
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>>573819589
Not enough Fiona smut in this general
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How does it feels to impale Amy's huge butt?
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>>573819589
I wish I had this cute and sexy fanart of Fiona without the weird buff sonic in it
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>>573819357
Why are you replying to a 2 hour late post?
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>>573819681
Heaven
Very squishy too
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>>573819847
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>>573820049
it looks like sfm sonic
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>>573820049
Ew. Reminds me of those 3d models where sonic is weirdly buff for no reason.
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>>573820016
Got I need her bubblegum ass so bad bro…
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>>573819681
>>573820016
Amy bubble gum ass
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>>573784716
ooc
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>>573821770
the idea of these 2 being together is really weird to me, i mean it already is but i think is because i almost see it as like cream x rouge but not as bad
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>>573821540
>we'll save ourselves!
>votes in a literal evil wizard and dooms themselves
Uncanny parallels to modern america. How did penders and ian know that far ahead?
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>>573819681
Amy's butt is very small and cute and tight.
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>>573822896
Simple, really. One was for it and the other was against it.
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>>573822896
Electoral democracy as a system allowing for panic and mob mentality to empower the worst types of people and ruin the best is not unique to America nor a modern thing. It's something observed with great horror and/or amusement as far back as Democracy goes, in Athens, where successful generals during the Peloponnesian Wars would literally get put on trial and executed or ostracized for insanely stupid reasons.
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>>573820015
I just got here
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>>573819748
sauce?
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>>573823302
They also voted to kill off Socrates for "corrupting the youth", didn't they? Usually they just voted to exile the philosophers for a year.
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>>573823627
If you just got here, you would be at the bottom of the thread and logically never see that post. You don't sound natural.
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>>573823767
Some people read threads, retard. Shut up.
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>>573823764
Yes, though Socrates actually was offered an escape into exile, which was considered a de facto part of the process. "We sentence you to death but you're allowed to leave before we come to your home to deliver it". Him choosing to stay and drink the hemlock was a deliberate stance taken in order to display confidence in his beliefs and serve as an example of virtuous behavior. Plato's goes into all this in Phaedo, which is worth a read.
Now I'm just thinking about which philosophers each character would like the most.
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ABSOLUTE LANOLIN DEATH!
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>>573823767
I scroll through the thread when I get in. What's your damage?
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>>573823979
No, not really, not when it's a 750-post length and beyond thread so you don't wanna bother with.
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Hello /sthg/!
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>>573821770
Rouge loves tailplay
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>>573824817
And goodbye, Tailspedo.
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>>573824894
Yeah you can leave
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>>573824732
>>573823979
And now samefagging... curious...
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>>573825062
You first.
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Pretty boy!
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I’m kinda curious as to why you started spamming Tails at the beginning of the summer. Are you a school teacher, by chance?
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>>573823979
I hardly believe that
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>>573825481
I post Tails whenever I feel like in any time
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>>573825593
Not til a couple months ago you didn’t.
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>>573824732
You scroll through numerous same talking points or shipfaggotry?
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>>573825686
Stop obsessing over my posting patterns
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>>573825890
(You) tell me to stop obsessing? That’s rich.
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He's so fucking cute
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>>573825890
Then stop avatarfagging?
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How can we get rid of these pedos
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I love him
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>>573826269
Yeah we can tell.
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>>573826406
That's great
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>>573822928
seeing amy's cute tail makes my heart flutter
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>>573826164
you know if you continue to call them pedos that they will continue to just piss you off even further? don't acknowledge it, how does people not know this shit by now
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>>573826812
They are still annoying even when you don’t call them pedos (they are pedophile)
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>>573823979
>>573824732
When you chucklefucks burn through 400 posts about west vs east or shipshit or obsessing whatever xitternigger said this week, I can't be bothered anymore spending minutes scrolling and reading each repetitive autistic post after another.
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>>573827135
Nta but you're choosing to further engage with that stuff rather than ignore it and introduce something novel into the thread, so aren't you just as bad, or worse?
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I miss _____anon
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Reminder
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>>573827448
> but you're choosing to further engage
I'm not?

>introduce something novel into the thread
Why would I with you absolute autists?
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>>573827826
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>573827991
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Working sucks ass.

Only plebs work, only a beast works, only a sack of shit A POOR EXCUSE OF A MAN works... only I WORK goddamnit *puffffff*

I hate working, there must be a way to un-work.
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>>573827448
>anon clearly implies he doesn't bother with it/ignores it
>"but you're choosing to further engage"
Are you a bot or what
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>>573828005
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>573828220
you already posted it
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/573759739/#q573814547
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Tails!
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>>573828546
I sent your fox in pakistan.
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>>573828259
He literally initiated the discussion by asking why one anon replied to another post from 2 hours prior, which isn't really worth bringing up. Please use your brain next thread.
>>573827826
>>573828005
>>573828361
>>573828385
>>573828645
Thank you, anons, for actually contributing SOMETHING.
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Aaahhhh I might be late noooo

>>573828667
He will help them become more civilized
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Bat x Fox
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>>573828808
He will likely get drafted to fight a holy war against americans and israel.
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This is it, the last sthg thread. Have you enjoyed your time here?
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>>573828797
You're not very bright, are you.
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>>573829064
You say that every night, sage.
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>>573769334
I think you make a good point I had not considered before. However, I also like that at least some of these genre terms can be very specific in what they describe. Platforming is one of those terms, and I like platforming a lot. Although it can still be hard to define, it depends on how strict you are. I think "Sonic 1 is more of a platformer" is accurate if we're being extremely strict with defining what platforming is. And that's something I like that game. I think Sonic 2 does it less, but I enjoy that game just as much and it shouldn't be dismissed as inferior for being different. I suppose it's best to have nuanced discussions instead of just catch all terms

>>573828942
He's not gonna do that lol
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>>573828645
>Artist made Classic Amy on-model and frumpy, but then made Modern Amy weirdly shapely with pink arms.

Why are Modernfags like this?
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>>573829064
Don't worry, we can just go back to the first thread again.
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SHUT UP YOU STINKY
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>>573829240
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>>573828361
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>>573828797
>>573827448
You literally put drawfags to run. You won't lie in the bed you made yourself.
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>>573829458
idk but i want to drink amy's sweat from her armpits
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>>573767331
That shit was not not on topic nor good, you were banned for breaking the site's rules. Me ignoring your stupid bait and talking about the stories of those games with other anons (yes, there were other people trying to use the Sonic general for its intended purpose yesterday) doesn't make me your epic boogeyman. I've been here since 2017
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>>573829537
don't be sad, a few more bumps and we'll reach heaven!
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>>573829651
>literally put draw fags to run
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>>573829745
But which Amy, though? Think carefully on your answer...
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>>573829982
That's everyone on /sthg/ nowadays, yeah.
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>>573773117
I don't think the problem people had was Sonic losing patience. Sonic in the games is shown to be helpful when someone is in need and he generally listens (or quickly understands) their backstories. In that animation he was just dismissive of their suffering iirc

>>573829506
Nope!
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It is speculated that during Archean Eon era of Earth when the sun was burning at 70% the intensity it is in the modern era, gases such as Amonia and Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are what trapped enough heat on the planet to allow life to begin
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>>573829064
With you? Always.
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>>573830258
>>573830258
>>573830258
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Guys drop everything you're doing.

Shadow the Hedgehog is racing Tails and Tails is winning.
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There's a special type of tumor referred to as "Teratoma" that usually develope in the ovaries of a women and the testicles of a man. These tumors can contain several different types of cellular tissues such as hair, muscle fibers, bone and in rare cases even teeth and eyes!
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>>573826812
They’re not going to magically disappear if you turn the other cheek anon.
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>>573830474
>Guys drop everything you're doing.
>Shadow the Hedgehog is racing Tails and Tails is winning.
Then Fails wakes up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocBa8jTXUA
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>>573830061
I think that's AI because of Twain's gloves. There's probably other dead giveaways but I'm not in a mood to look for all of them.
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>>573829358
My issue is more that conversation about games treat genres as a structured rulebook or guideline of what a game is "supposed" to be rather than things we made up to vaguely describe certain games so people could have an idea of what to expect or how to find more of the given game.

The argument "Sonic is supposed to be a platformer therefore Sonic 2 is inferior to Sonic 1 because there is less less literal jumping from 1 platform to another"
It gets to a point where we arent even having a real discussion about real things, and instead just abstractions argued based on arbitrary categorization and definition-fagging. Like its more about winning a platonic argument instead.

Not saying youre doing it. Its just something I notice all the time with people whrn talking about Sonic.
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>>573825069
>Satanic SOAglowies are back



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