Main website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/enWiki: https://gbf.wiki/Granblue_Fantasy:_Relink>FAQhttps://rentry.org/RelinkFAQ>Patch 2.0.2 detailshttps://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/>Send your feedback herehttps://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedbackOld thread: >>573734383
maglie my beloved slayer of HIV-ridden faggots.
Reminder to pick up the mastery trait that gives 20% damage cap per 'normal' sigilAnd use Stun sigils to cap out the stun skill Stun is super underappreciated. More link times, knocks them out of overdrive, mechanics that require stuns to resolve etc
>>573796173I'm struggling to fit everything in when I do that, you need to synthesis them into something good but it has to be stun power first too...
Captain is such a shitty intro to this game because all of the cool stuff they can do is not visibly apparent compared to the other charactershttps://youtu.be/CNuR2B1vGZo?si=WbVnjjv4bUBib0b_like thats cool! but no way in hell the game lets you know thats possible
>>573796427the game doesn't tell you anything to be fair
>>573796173Reminder to stay in yellow stance or you cart and fail the quest 10 minutes in
>>573796427I think the bea stances from last thread are a great example of the game not telling you stuff
>>573796585>He's not running Stout Heart on a summon with a Steel Nerves sigil
>Anre>Tweyen>Threo>Feower>Fif>Seox>Seofon>Eahta>Niyon>Tien
Anyone know how Ferry is doing this patch? As in, is she fun now?
I don't know how I feel about the masteries that make characters more braindead to play and not less. Why the fuck can Narm just ignore her stance gimmick entirely rather than making said gimmick less of a pain in the ass to do. That sounds like nitpicking and they should be the same thing, but I'd rather still have to engage with the system than not.
How to get started with Fediel 101>Get to Master Trait level 30>Put your points into the tree Insight: Finishing Touch>Just get damage caps, combo finisher damage, health and whatever you want>For skills use Primordial Fear, Signs of Calamity, Miasmic Abyss and The Black's BlessingYour gameplan is this:>Use your XXX combo until you start stomping>While stomping press Y to teleport into a claw attack>Press Y again to go airborne and throw a bomb>Mash Y to keep throwing bombs for giga damageYou can dodge cancel these Y bombs if your hands aren't brittleYour skills will put you into either claw-mode or start stomping, which lets you skip the XXX combo part.Entering claw-mode right away lets you press Y and start throwing bombs.Bombs are ranged and homing so you don't even *need* to be near the boss.The big bomb skill is a dps loss unless heavily built around (which results in lower overall damage than Y bomb spamming)
>>573797278they had to do the pretty much the same thing to her in GBVS too, pretty funny to see history repeat itself because narmaya fans can't handle one mechanic.
>>573796695Which bosses drop it?
>>573797343>The big bomb skill is a dps loss unless heavily built aroundnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>573797264she was already fun...
>>573797376The Chaos behemoth quest is where I got mine
Does HP matter in faa?
>>573797343>big bomb is badshan't be playing her
final boss in c++ didnt even have fucking lyrics in the song that was sad
>>573796173What about your weapon wrightstone? If you're going with 3 stun sigils and don't need crit rate anymore then the main stat of it doesn't matter anymore?
>>573797842you just want to get any with supplementary and whatever else you can get on it, the main stat doesn't really matter yeah
can you play campaign in coop?
>>573797343Doesnt work for me. Only throws one bomb.
>>573797973I guess either way you end up wasting a slot, either a wrightstone that does nothing or a sigil slot that does nothing. Unless you decide to only go for 2 stuns+wrightstone I guess but then you're leaving 40% cap on the table.
>>57379810140% cap is piss at this point anyway, also fatebreaker doesn't work in infinity so you can free that up too
>>573798038Nope, only a handful of free quests that unlock during the campaign. The coop part only really starts after the campaign.
>>573797429I'm guessing that's a chaos++ quest I haven't unlocked yet
>ascended terminus requires 200khp or lessnah i think i'll pass
How to get started with Beatrix 101>Put your points into Insight: Hungry for Causality>Get damage, cooldown reduction, health and upgrades for your clock buffs>For skills use Star Chaser, Riding Free, Thunderbird, and Embrasque Sword (ideally fully charge it when you use it)Your gameplan is:>Use one of your skills>Followed up by pressing Y for the combo finisher>Use the next skill>Follow up with YRotate your skills until your clock gauge is full to activate Bea-modeThis changes your gameplan to:>Use one of your skills>Follow up by pressing Y for the combo finisher>Press Y again for the power finisher>Use the next skill>Follow up with Y combo finisher>Press Y again for the power finisherYou'll be bouncing up and down on the boss while Bea screams a hole in your earsWith a decent build you should barely ever have to use your X combo.You should be able to keep looping your combo finishers with skills due to cooldown reduction. >How do I manage the clock?Keep it at Orange/Yellow 95% of the time. Swap to Red when the boss is stunned. Once you get a summon with the Stout Heart skill, you can ignore Orange/Yellow. Pair it with a sigil that has Steel Nerves and stay in RedYou WILL accidentally swap the clock when pressing Y to do your combo.It will happen less when you get used to the timing. Get the Warpath sigil after you get Stout Heart on a summon
I'll be honest juggling all these stats was already a pain before. Isn't there some screen where you can see everything you actually have?
>>573798307you can animation cancel the first part of the finisher which has shit damage to go directly to the enhanced finisher btw
I'm tempted to use Beatrix just because of how much I love her voicelinesTHUNDERBAAARDO
tfw no fancy cheeky bard-like fencer charactersad
Bea's VA alone assures I will never play her.
>>573798075Insight: Finishing Touchput your points into thisThe extra bombs come from this
>>573798307>barely ever have to use your X comboI will now play your character
add chichi NOW
question before i spend a lot of time grinding, are there any hard walls where I have to start grinding to get by? I dont wanna get bogged down by low rank if I dont gotta
Yeah, there's no way we're not getting a Grand Order fightThey added like all these fucking songs, so leaving hers out gotta be for a reason
>>573798380Does this lead into more damage overall? Unless you get suuuper good cooldown reduction it sounds like you'd spend more time doing X combos since you spend less time doing the combo finisher
>>573798637you might need to use 1 cascade 1 quick cooldown and her unique cooldown sigil but with 4 dmg skills you should still be able to cycle, the dps is definitely higher and it's useful for link time
>>573798307>no need for the slow ass base combothis works?
>>573796173what constitutes a "normal" sigil?
>>573798874yepJust keep looping skills into combo finishers Her master trait gives a ton of cooldown reductionIf you accidentally swap your clock instead of hitting the combo finisher you may have to do X combos as a backup until a skill comes off cooldown (or a link attack happens)Her skills and combo finishers fucking glue you to the boss as well which makes positioning almost automaticPair that with her tankiness and you just UNGA
Hopejeets status?
>reset's Id's skill cooldowns after leaving godmightwhy didn't they give it to me earlier?
Which one should beatrix transcend, ascension or stringer weapon first before terminus?
>>573798964The ones usually at the top of the listHealthStunCrit chanceAttackIf you read the description of the master trait you can see the logo-type for them
>>573797278at least the tier 2 passive of that branch gives you a buff depending on what stance you shift to and tier 3 makes the buffs work in both stances and punishes you for staying in a stance too long so there is that.but yeah, the fact the "ignore your stance gimmick" is in tier 1 and you are just gonna activate all 3 tier 1 master traits anyway is fucking stupid.
Eustacebros, how fun has he been? He looks like a lot of fun but having to restart what I'm building seems like a big pain in the butt
>>573798497Mr. Bassist…
>>573798307you only "accidentally" swap your clock stance if the last hit of your finisher doesn't connect
>>573798634You’ll get GO when Zoi finally finishes her triple consecutive life sentences for the crimes she committed that fateful summer.
>>573799480Really? I thought he looked quite boring
>>573799514I might be more retarded than Bea, honestly. I mixed her VA and Zeta's up.
>>573798307>get the warpath sigildoes she care about the other 2 character-specific ones?>She'll be bouncing up and down on the boss while screaming a hole in your earsgiwitwm
>>573798307How to get started with Beatrix 101>rape>PLAP PLAP RAPE PLAP
>>573799587I like zooming around, laser/lightning blasts, and the occasional counter.
>>573799480you have to spam successful parries/dodges on his skills to get value out of him.he's not gonna score high on test dummy videos because of this.
>>573799723>does she care about the other 2 character-specific ones?Ultramarine Flash is fantastic (20% cooldown reduction in Bea mode)Ultramarine Advertisty is kinda shit desuIt gives you damage cap at low health. You'd probably be better off going Ultramarine Flash + secondary sigil skill
>Guard PaybackThis sigil is surprisingly good. The stun gauge gains are clear, but at level 25 the attack buff gives me +15.3% extra DMG and it lasts 15 seconds.>drain vs regenFrom my testing (at 180k hp and fully ascended terminus build with tons of dmg cap) Regen seems better than Drain unless you have above 70% or so damage uptime. Regen is also more effective with more HP, and also works during downtime/bloodthirst so that's a big bonus as well>regen vs divergenceThey have the same HP regen value, but divergence caps out at 15 in exchange for a chance at cleansing debuffs every time it procs (every 3 secs)>improved healingDoes not work with regen, divergence, drain.
As Faith in Dragonform Id, should I be using the special finisher or am I supposed to stay in dragonform permanently, praying to the RNG gods for skill resets?
What's more damage for Eustace shotgun build or flamek lv3 build?
>>573800132stay in dragonform permamently and spam X, but really you'd want to play godmight
the former. scourge beam is really good and dragon mastery id might be insane with it vs gigantic bosses like hexa and bahamuts
Do we think fediel will get nerfed soon or nah and itll take 2 years?
Am i missing out by pirating the game? I have no friends anyway so its not like I would play with them...
motherfucker he rides the spear like a fucking sonic riders skateboard ive been laughing for a solid minute
is it worth getting into the gatcha if i liked the story and characters in relink? is relink connected to main story or it's some kind of alternate universe?
Holy shit the Versa fight is fucking cancer
>>573800536ferry got fixed pretty quickly, this seems to be about on the same level.just gotta wait for the devs to see a video of it on twitter.
>>573798160>fatebreaker doesn't work in infinitynice to know now..
>>573800759kind of alternate universelike fediel actually meet you in one of the event, while fraux actually has more story before she joins you
>>573800759Relink is an alternate universe set within the games first arc, its meant to parallel those first 50 chapters or so.If you like reading there is plenty of it but the first few arcs suffer from the conversation being cut off by a monster attack constantly. like almost every couple of paragraphs. it takes a long time to get better and the game even tries to skip you through most of it because it knows
>>573798160>also fatebreaker doesn't work in infinitybros... wtf.. i dont wanna make infinite specific builds
>>573800759>is it worth getting into the gatchaNo. Stay as far away from it as you can.
>>573800759Unless you’re only going to play it very very casually, the main game is an autistic grinding game for autistic grindlords.And while they’ve taken steps to ease it, it will still require a year or two of hard grinding to catch up without spending absurds amount of money even with a starter account with a bunch of meta shit and resources.
>>573800759I would stay away from the actual game but then again if you are interested in the story there's not really a better archive for it than just playing itIt's gotten pretty predatory as gachas go
>>573801051just replace it with a stun power, the atk from fatebreaker is useless tbqh
More or less maxed out Maggie. Thinking of trying out a pure DPS character. Should I go with Fediel or Fraux?
>>573800759people are going to tell you to stay away but the game is actually very friendly for new players.just don't fall for the trap of getting onto the grind treadmill, new players get plenty of shit to carry them through all the story events.get yodarha as your free starter SSR. the story events are great if you like the characters, don't miss out on it because someone told you about the infinite grind that you don't even have to participate in.also do not visit the game's general.
>>573798160>also fatebreaker doesn't work in infinityI just tested and it definitely works on infinity for me, on the 1st boss at least
>>573801215Fraux if you want to have fun.Fediel if you want to be optimal.
>>573800921what a doodoo ass skill
>>573801215Fraux might be frustrating since going from ranged to melee is toughShe's a fun change of pace though
>>573800759>>573801248above all else do not go to /gbfg/, it is widely known as the worst general in vg and they take some sick pride in it like it isnt the most embarassing dogshit. There is a guy there who has been complaining about a character in the game, Poseidon, since the characters introduction in 2015. He regularly makes AI slop of the games director and claims to want to rape him to death
>>573801505based autist
>upgrade base weapons even more>bunch of random stuff tagged onSo which of the weapons should I grab to uncap first and actually use if I want to try play of the new characters?
>>573801505>pozzed guy never recoveredtop kekAlso isn't final fantasy the worst general still?
>23.5% defense from lv17 stronghold, 30% from mastery of 5 pink/blue sigils152,681 damage taken from chaos++ pyet opening>just 30% from mastery199,584 damage taken>just stronghold230,519 damage taken>without stronghold and without 30% from mastery299,376 damage taken
>>573801379>>573801454Is Fediel supposed to be broken or something? I don't want to be spend all that time and resources in her only to see her get nerfed.t. Day one Ferry player in base game
Ok I dont know much about granblue, but do all the characters talk like this in the gacha game? Like they have one singular trait and they use it like a modifier to all their conversations. Katalina is stoic and anxious without her chew toy, Rackam wants to fuck the grandcypher, Vyrn is your buddy old pal, Eugen is fucking old, and on top of all that every won't stop sucking each other off, even the bad guyslikeI assumed the character writing would be good because Umas character writing is good.
>got faa to 2% with my AI>"looks good, guess I'll revise their sigil to celestial focus">best I got after that is 15%I'm tired, bros...
>>573801979She's arguably the most broken character we've ever had>Shits out an insane amount of damage consistently>Easy to play>Safe ranged playstyle>Generates SBA like crazy>Staggers the boss a ton with Stun sigils>Provides support like petrify or atk/def up
what character is the best at committing war crimes against the entire slime population?
>>573802051It's been over ten sears since I read that you expect me to remember?
>>573801505>>573801248>>573801114>>573801053i think i'll just replay relink againi'm thinking abour starting a new save to play with my friends and try out other characters as i've played mostly Id and Vane, any suggestions? though about eustace
Making my way through the base game, am currently in chapter 6 right now, and I unlocked Zeta. Holy fuck I can see why people play this game. Just seeing how versatile she is makes me wonder if all the other characters have this level of versatility to mess around with (besides the MC of course)
>>573799234Terminus. Because of how shit potions are now it's better to be below 200k anyways. Stacking Defense is better than stacking HP.
>>573802313While it varies from character to character, you'll unlock a lot more systems that changes how your character playsGlad you're having fun! Game is cool as hell
>>573802309>starting a new savefor what thoughjust remove all your sigil and pretend you're fresh start
>>573802553well they're starting fresh and the lowest level characters i can get are lvl 60 right?
>>573802309>start a new savestop being stupid anon
>>573802414Can people still basically play their favorite character regardless of the party? It looks like some characters can have multiple roles baked into their skill tree
>>573802141Probably fediel since she's ranged and mobile and has busted damage
aieeee Bubs is walling mehelp a brother outLobbyUR0Y93CBPPCSC0A8
Can someone test out lancelot's finisher dodge for me? I can't for the life of me get it to dodge stuff anymore
>>573802736Yes. Buffs and everything all stack and aren't screwed over mechanically like they were in the base game release, so everyone should work together well and have minimal anti-synergy outside of multiple people trying to play tank.
I'm guessing Eustace's main spec is the best one since you can link attack, parry, and link time to reload and keep flamek unleashed lv3 still
>>5738028892/4 mid quest
haven't played in ages, what are the recommended set of sigils you put on AI party members?
>Hyped for Maglielle>She ends up being kinda boring and awkward to play>Switch to Beatrix halfway into the DLCWell, I guess I'm going to need more Ambrosia and Fortitude Crystals now that I'm benching the potato.I know Lucilius is still the best source of Ambrosia but is there a new way to farm Fortitude L fast?
>>573804213Do 'Survival of the Fittest' in Chaos++Put some ranged character on Full Auto Mode, bring your AI and AFK repeat until you're drowning in crystalsAlso remember to trade your coins for crystals at the shop
>>573798307Are you at infinity yet?
>>573804063I'm running this and it's worked fine for me.
>>573802051Yes, they are one-dimensional as fuck because gbf writers are trash.
>>573804461thanks i'll give it a go
>>573804353Yes
>>573804295>Also remember to trade your coins for crystals at the shopAre L crystals the best value trade for rafale coins?
Should I be using my knickknack vouchers now that I'm in Chaos+ or is there a reason to wait?
>>573802889We just finished bubs with randosStill 2/4
>>573804573I know some were concerned about her clock uptime in Infinity but it doesn't seem too bad? How much health are you running her at?
>>573802139It seems like most characters can reach 500 million. But it's also a stationary target so eh.
>>573804295Thanks, I'm halfway into Chaos+ I think, just did Fraux's three quests and at this point, after spending a lot of resources on Tweyen and Mag I realized I'm not enjoying them so much now
Seofon is actually fun.
>>573804762Around 240k with Steel Nerves, Garrison, Stout Heart, Regen, Guts, Potion Hoarder, Autorevive etcClock uptime feels fine. You sorta learn when to hold your Bea mode and when to send it. Getting Bea mode takes like 4 skills worth of combo finishers. Wasting it doesn't feel TOO bad
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>>573798307What Sigil combinations do you recommend for Quick Coold and Cascade?I'm not very proficient and the Sigil system but in my fair ignorance I think you HAVE to slot in those skills.
man wtf did they do to my main Sieg ans I can't keep up the rhythm while watching out for all the flashy new mechanics, sometimes I can't even see my own red twinkle when the rest of the parry is unloading
>>573805374proficient at*cooldown*Man I can't into english at this time of the morning.
got this in the same raid, do summons take sigils/masteries from specific pools?
when they nerf fediel I hope it's just numbers and not too bad. all her utility is so fun. she is the most fun character in the game
>>573805481I can't imagine playing any character with timing-based mechanics without either absurd amounts of muscle memory to know it by heart, or without turning battle effects down to minimum so you can actually see shit.
>>573805123What other skills do you run? Between Stun, her cool down sig, War/Berserk/Spartan, crit, etc I'm right on slots kek.
>>573797343What kinds of sigils does she want?
>>573801879no that's /lolg/ or /feg/ after they absorbed /feh/ but they come after that yeah
>"Do your solo shit already!"nyooo... i don't wanna...
>like 3 hours pass>already at chapter 6?? I thought this is where the catchup stuff started, like itd be at the end of the game
>>573805672you get used to the suffering also I HATE that the new trees are doubling the fuck down on executing the timing mechanics perfectly I mean sure why not but they better make the timing looser or give me the option to turn down player character effects
Remember that stun over mastery is better than atk now if you're rolling new ones. Crit rateStunNormal dmg capSkill dmg cap
So how easy is it to get capped on attack?Is there any reason to ever pick stuff that isn't cap up in some way?
>>573798531Sorry but which one exactly is the extra bombs in this style?
>>573807718>readniggaread.jpg
>>573807805I really fucking hate that you can't preview this before unlocking it
Is there a specific place thats good for farming weapon exp materials or just whatever you get as you go
>>573807998Just in case you need a full list:https://www.rpgsite.net/guide/20796-granblue-fantasy-relink-endless-ragnarok-all-characters-master-traits
What's a "normal attack" exactly?
>>573808198Anything with X and Y buttonsIncludes combo finishers, charging attacks etcIf you press X or Y then it's a normal attack
what characters have you put significant time into and what makes them fun to you?>siegfriedthis motherfucker is so boring man. he has nothing going on except perfect executions. the tank trait is a step in the right direction at least since it gives him a perfect parry but just tapping the button in a rhythm being the only thing the character does just sucks. cut-ins and boss flailing gets really annoying too. also holy smokes his link time is boring >vaseragaI haven't actually played him in ER yet and need to get back to him but I love that they gave him a perfect parry trait and that it looks like his best one. I wish he'd gotten a netherwrath tanking trait instead of 3 damage traits. he can get a little monotonous but the parries and numbers make up for it>rosettashe's a ton of fun in ER actually. the skill looping trait feels insane and the buffs she provides actually do a lot now. she still has the issue of bosses moving out of roses that makes her kind of frustrating at times but with enough CDR you can generally loop bouqet and tycoon and keep roses where you want them, and iron maiden+spiral rose is still a very satisfying amount of numbers>fedielshe's just so fun man. there's so much you can do and doing it while maintaining her stacking def down is a great time. teleporting and floating around attacks is the most enjoyable feeling I've gotten out of this game. and it's broken but hitting finishers against tall hurtboxes feels great too. I hope the fix they do is making each hit of a finisher against the same target have diminishing damage caps or something to clamp the damage rather than kneecapping her utility and movement>rackamalso haven't played him in ER yet but the collateral damage trait looks like a ton of fun. rhythmic trigger is like the less annoying version of siegfried and he actually has something to manage and is much less monotonous I wanna use conflux to try more characters. currently eyeing perci, bea, eustace, gallanza
>>573808263I see
Man i wish danchou had more "range" in their attacks, seeing characters like magli sandalphon or fediel is upsetting in comparison
>>573808305Maglielle's perk 3 trait resetting all skill cooldowns on a perfect blade dance IV is really fun and satisfying.
>>573802889GG bro, wasn't expecting it to clear this many battles without carry
>>573798307Any tips for my sigils? Any specific recommendations?
>decide to replay story on ultimate>get to first fight with Gallanza>go down 8 timesUltimate is tough bwos
Amazing gameplay and the most 0/10 barebones thread between themjust give me the monsters atp i care not for this other bullshit
>>573808305Beatrix feels great to playThe spammy skill playstyle leads to a satisfying loop of skill->finishers. Visually it's fantastic and there's a soft timing to it since you need to hit the Y button during your finisher. It gives me Zeta vibes where you're airborne for a lot of the time, looping with some timing, except you loop with skills instead of normal attacksThe stout heart shenanigans lets you ignore so much and just unga bunga your way through attacks.The clock gauge is sorta whatever but it is kinda neat how it'll spin and start ticking when you enter your super modeAll of her skills glue her to the boss like men to big titty draphs so you get maximum uptime.Her JP VA yelling does things to me
I didnt know I had to do fate episodes to level up.
>>573802889Lobby closed. Thanks for playing>>573808826ggs. It's less about being carried, we just need to have people know what they're doing. Like what you said about people focusing on the swords during Luci's The End lol
>>573808305>KatalinaHer support utility feels especially good when playing with friends since you can coordinate stuff. Summoning Ares is also really cool>TweyenZooming around and shooting arrows is fun>BeatrixRIDING FREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Pressing buttons and stacking clock buffs before going wild feels GOOD>FrauxDMC5's Balrog tickles my brain just right and so does Fraux
finished hexa and what now grinding slimes till 50 for 10 hours?
>>573805481Personally, I love what they did with Sieg. It's hard to maintain his PE stacks but if you can do it he's an absolute beast.Exactly what I want from a character that is all about perfectly timing your inputs, really.
>>573808942Does her unga bunga still work in Chaos and Chaos+?
>>573799732This but without r*pe
what the fuck is this shiti thought she was a 1 braincell characterhow do you play this
Bros, optimizing sigils is giga cancerous. I think I'm gonna resort to THAT...
>>573809557Works all the way You just need defensive sigils
>>573809623you thought wrongher gimmick is that her gimmick is too complicated for her
>>573808861You're suppose to play ultimate after all the grind, although that just makes it too easy
>>573809558What about tying her to a cross?
Got some updated mods from Lovers Lab, these are all semi nude btw, included are>Lyria>Lilith>Ferry>Cag>Io>Charlotta>Zeta>Djeet>Tweyenhttps://files.catbox.moe/5dsxuc.zipIf you already have your Reloaded thing set up but haven't touched it since the DLC dropped you'd just need to launch it so it prompts you to update, then it should ask you to update the Relink manager mod and that should be it, delete your older mods btw since they won't look right in-game.
So what is Fraux's best Mastery Trait? Allure of Strength and Flip the Tides seem pretty alright
>>573805509Think it's completely random. Except for maybe like Stout Heart. I only seen Stout Heart on the Behemoth summon.
Its storming outside brosif i play any more I might diesaid Djeeta-kun
>>573809828I meant to say Chaos++ and Infinity, but I assume the same holds true there?
>>573808942What skills do you run on her?
>>573808305>GranDjeetaTheir simplicity has many pros and cons but i keep coming back to danchou. I wouldnt call them fun but i really wish they got just abit more than just Arts.>EustaceI never really play the ranged characters and he was really underwheling at first but after getting mastery traits things started clicking. he's real fun getting a whole clip of grade IV shots. its great not needing to chase the crackhead monsters that never stop moving>Cagliostroi played her in base game and fell off abit but her insight 3 looks fun, ive seen anons calling her weak so im not sure anymore.im stuck perma farming characters i havent played yet
Holy the defy difficulty pugs have dropped in quality so hard in last couple days guess everyone has caught up now
>>573810446care to share eustace build?
Even: BeaOdd: Magi
>>573810154Yep>>573810169Same as >>573798307
why does fediel not get stats or sigil slots from her fate episodes?i would understand if they gave up on that for all 6 DLC characters but it is only Fediel so it strikes me as kinda weird.
>>573797278That mastery line seems like cheeks as a player. It should help the AI, maybe. Dunno how's the new AI, but the old AI struggled with stance juggling.
Should I bother spending points in leveling up my AI allies?
>>573810849they're baked in by default, I thinkalso because her fate episodes are shown to you in the story of endless ragnarok
>>573810659Its not perfect, im still going through story
wait.. the terminus final uncap is after finishing infinity? wtf
>>573798634They could add a hundred more raids and Zooey would never be one of them.
>the worldWell that was fun until he completely sperged out at low hp
>finally get stout heart on a summon>try out beatrixOkay. This is peak beabrain gameplay. So much ungabunga in red clock.
I hope they add a horus raid and a horus playable character and a horus summon and a horus dating simulator
>>573811092If you plan to do the co-op with AIConflux is pretty easy you can clear everything if your main
Anyone know how to turn off the "Crew SBA Mode" hotkey on the down thumbpad in the game? I keep pressing that button whenever I try and use my potions and my character keeps saying "Use SBA if needed!"
cyge will never forgive herhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYYAkQEUoeY
Lyria, no!
>Power Raise has a parry/guard pointWas this always a thing??
Transcendance Weapons say they have swappable traits, but where do I actually swap them?
WHERE is "block SBA and primal burst cut-ins of other characters"
Multilock or clincher?
>>573811736Unironically how the fuck did they go so hard for a fucking joke event, then immediately turned around and shat all over her in her own anniversary. It will never make sense
>>573812064
possibly dumb question no bully please only answersI downloaded da demo and it ran on my pc, 100-60 FPS on 1920pis there any chance the actual game won't run? the demo is only 24gb too
>>573812376you only need 60fps
>>573812376you should be fine really there isn't anything much crazier or different from the demo to base game
>>573812376it will run fineyou'll dip bellow 60 during some boss sequences most likely
Did they buff my nigga Yordaha? I remember he was like D tier in basegame.
>>573812501>>573812518I see thyanks>>573812571That's fine.The reason I ask is because I downloaded a cracked version 2 years ago but it didn't ran at all on my setup. It was like 10fps. I must have fucked up something back then
>>573801505>above all else do not go to /gbfg/, it is widely known as the worst general in vgThat's not how you spell /xivg/ lmao
>>573811140oh, yeah, it just autofinishes episodes 9-2 because those were those 8 memories you got going through fatebreaker. so only epilogue, episode 1 and prologue is something new.Also interesting it is in reverse.
Post >yfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-QETzHkRac
>>573801979She's absolutely getting taken out back and shot like Ferry was. And just as quickly too.
>>573812376It's a game made for consoles
>was slimeblasting with a friend into the wee hours of the morning>he's at m50 5*>160 slimes-ish>do some solo >150 slimes-ishbros...
>>573812805/xivg/ really is something else, from the glimpses i've seen of it. maybe the jannies leave it up as some sort of containtment
>>573813020Do you play range, and him melee?
>>573812745Yoda was never bad in the base game, he was just a harder version of Charlotta, so it filtered a lot of people.
I hate the Cag changest. 200 hour Cagfag
>>573813208he plays maglielle I have no idea what she does besides sometimes there's a caduceus floating around
>>573813293Yeah it's ass. You're basically a shield bot now.
>>573812939Still probably my favorite songAlso the only fight I ever did with friends
LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT GOO-LOSSUS
The attack increase from the ATK basic sigil trait seems to raise the damage cap as well. Can anybody confirm this?
>>573813801You sure you aren't just not actually capping because you don't have the damage?
>>573813486You mean collapse bot?
cagliostro deserves worse
>>573813936I might be confused because it's late. I'll check again tomorrow
Maggie deserved better than what she got for a kit. But I suppose it was inevitable. We hada DPS female Harvin in Charlotta but no support-oriented one yet.
What's the best spot to farm echoes?
Does nimble onslaught do anything for charlotta? I got it on her warpath+.
>>573814406I don't see the real issue here with Mag. She's fun to play and support has a lot more weight than it used to over pure DPS.
PEOPLE OOOOF THE SKYRISE UP
https://x.com/pirochanbanzai/status/2076300199400775696>magliele 1.3 BILLION in a minute
>>573814528How often are you perfect dodging?
>>573814838I haven't played her yet since the update, is her playstyle still relying on the jump for invincibility?
>>573814406The irony of an earth-shattering dps video being 4 posts below this lolGirl provides top tier support while also being top 3 dps in the game and this guy wants MORE
>>573814934charlotta is still beyblade spam
>>573815023I've seen people say to use the plunge version now though.
>>573814956potatofuckers are the worst and dumbest of humanity
So it that conflux thing singleplayer only?
>>573814528It's something for those rare times you have to panic dodge cause your Finisher took so long you don't have the time to do another Y attack once you hit the ground since it has a few start-up frames. Otherwise not much.>>573814579Yeah but I wanted a floating sword DPS that did cool shit like pic related or stuff like what Luci does with his own floating swords when he just slashes the entire area around himself rather than 'death by a thousand paper cuts'.>>573814956If anything my issue is the visuals. It all feels so weak and lame. That and 90% of the time it's impossible to tell what your current combo is for the correct finisher because there's SO MUCH SHIT ON THE SCREEN and your own visual effects are so utterly minimal.
>>573802075Nah. I remember when sandy was all that plus made of i-frames.
>>573815172Yes
>>573814441siero unironically
>>573815023You do the stab now but the gameplay loop is the same
>>573815023Beyblade got nerfed and if ANYTHING is ONLY good against huge bosses and is completely worthless against small or medium sized ones cause you'll only get 2-4 hits.
guys, it's not exclusive to behemoth
>>573815180>bro im top 3 characters in the whole game BUT MY VISUALSPlease go play seigfeied or tweyen mabye you'll get a reality check or two
>>573815151>>573815151>>573815151
Zoi fight to farm centrums when
>>573815308>>573815023>people don't know that her two damage-increasing Master Trait trees want her just mashing the X button now because if you're not holding your Y button specifically to parry you WILL get hit and lose ALL your damage stacks + Noble Order only builds up to Level 5 by spamming X since you only have 3 damaging abilities at all>you also don't get Diamond Cutter stacks unless the parry was timed correctly to proc the Invincibility which means sloppy parrying by finisher spamming is also not rewarded at all
>>573814805>1.31 BILLION>look inside>316 millionhuh?
>>573812939>fisticuffs you shirtless in the rain on top of a towerLiterally peak
>>573815672just slimeblast like the rest of usor do other stuff you get like 40+ centrums from the later chaos++ bosses
>>573815697We know lad, charlotta does not require all this critical thinkingYou keep enough square to keep building stacks (and for preparing to parry) but the stab is objectively way more dps and stun than the square spam you you want to get as many in as you can
>>573815437>game is full of flashy motherfuckers with flashy effects>the game has at least one example of a cool way to use flying swords that isn't just death by a thousand cuts like a bitch in the form of Luci>we get THE LAMEST possible flying swords kit in all existence>and it's also bad gameplay-wise cause you always want to be doing the tornado finisher but you CAN'T FUCKING SEE WHAT STAGE OF THE COMBO YOU'RE AT CAUSE EVERYONE ELSE'S OVER THE TOP VISUAL EFFECTS COMPLETELY OBSCURE YOUR OWN
>>573815890Which one is the stab? The square finisher after triangle finisher?
>>573815960Youre actually doubling down on this horrid take, christ man the game gives you everything and you respond by sperging outI repeat what I said, go play a different character for a reality check
>>573815890Yeah but people keep making it sound like you should be spamming finisher non-stop when you simply CAN'T and more often than not will be slashing away instead of PLOONGING.
Rainbow Slimes are in neo-slime blasting and they drop 5 Azurites and 3 Ingots this time.
>>573814805>>573815785wait, even me with my limited kanji knowledge knows that says 1 minute 300 million. can 分 also mean billion or is their translator just being retarded?
>>573816116they have the same drops. 5 azurite, 3 ingots and 10k MSP, plus some money but that's irrelevant
>>573816010Triangle... you know, where she stabs the ground... the stab is the stab.Im suddenly getting worried about potato players are the memes real?
>>573816104>reddit spacing AND retardedGo back you ape.
>>573816263No, that anon simply doesn't actually play the game.
what do I even spend rafale coins on now
>>573816312Yeah man everyone else is a redditor, not the guy posting walls of texts lamenting about playing a top tier character and how bad they are because of animationsHere's another space, go back and reflect on your massive posts and see if you're capable of any learning
I played for 30 minutes, got my shit stepped on and and felt overwhelmed and closed the game. They should have released the expansion sooner.
idk how I feel about the MSP grind being so steep almost everything else is done by the time you finish it
>>573814805How do you get Magi's combo finishers to be pink? No idea how to really play her.
kek, wasn't expecting the game to say your name instead of a generic title, its like some old jrpgs
Can you toggle Fraux's hood like you can Siegfried's helmet?
Fraux uses her stand skillI can no loner see anything the boss doesbruh
>>573816754her XY pretty explodes as soon as it touches the enemy but her XXY and XXXY you have to hold and touch the enemy for a while for them to explode on their own to get the upgraded version.The XXXY upgraded version is really nice since then the AoE sticks to the enemy. it is a huge pain in the ass to track enemies with it though especially smaller humanoid enemies.She also builds her meter faster while one of her combo finishers is active.
Potato players are NOT beating the allegations with this thread lmfao
>Fighting Ruby Golem>Me as Beatrix in Golems face the entire time with Garrison/Stout/Steel Nerves/Overdrive assassin DUUUUUREERYAAHHHHH !DOOOYAAASSSH! SEEEEEEEEYAAAAAAAAH! SOOOOOOOOODAAAAH">See Critical members of Eugene and Io as they scream in pain because of getting hit by or dying to mechanicsI haven't laughed during playing a game like that in a good while. Thanks Bea.
>>573816529ive been using mine for fort crystals
>>573817236Bea and I share the sale single brain unga bunga cell during a quest, and I love every minute of it
>>573817236>delusional Bea players having hallucinations as they bleed out on the floor eating up all the critical meter as they always do
>>573816529Crystals or centrums
>>573817161>implying i ever denied them
>>573816886You made Lyria say a bad word, you monster
I feel like my bar for the AI is in hell because I was actually surprised that magli waits for a full bar before blade dancing. Such a simple thing yet my brain was like holy shit the AI is actually being competent for a change
>busy af the first several days the game came out>finally get into it this weekend>already behind the main curve of good players, and catching up to the shitters>every online loby for a quest is either one of these two with no exceptions:>1) the most casual normies that can't do the simplest mechanics like moving out of a floor aoe or holding block>2) the sweatiest mastery 50 fediel player that hard carries before anyone else does anything and I don't get to play>either game over to critical gauge depletion, or the fastest quest I barely get to playaaaaAAAA
>>573817819>being busy at allBrother in christ you ARE the casual normie.
people actually play with randoms?
>>573818017i have done all of my progession with random queuesit's not as bad as some anons have been saying, but i might be biased since i'm playing substitute sieg so even infinity is marginally easier
>>573818017They can't be worse than my AI mates. Better gear too probably
>>573817236all that, and she still does no damage
eustace has too many skills I want to useplaying with fire is boring but seems mandatory. flamek thunder is cool as fuck, I love having a parry, and both heaven comes down and slow kill look like a lot of fun
perfect reloads for eustace are reloads done when you have 0 bullets?
it takes so many god damn mastery points to kit out AI party members it is suffering.
>>573818679Yes, the game explains it like shit or almost not at all, but basically you want to do a "manual reload" once you run out of ammo.
>>573818740>the grinding game has grinding in it
>>573818565>>573818809eustacebros is shotgun eustace any good?
People actually solo the entire game? Where's the fun in that? spend dozens of hours afk farming for your AI so you can solo everything? At that point you might as well just use cheat engine for infinite items and god mode. I like doing Infinity bubs/lucilius with pugs and struggling together, that's where the fun is.
>>573797278Considering most Naru players I encounter are complete retards I consider anything to make her eaiser for those players is appreciated. I don't care about playing your favorite "character"(she hardly had one to begin with) but at LEAST leasn how to play her properly.
>>573818446You're probably just ass with her.
Stout Heart from a sigil doesn't show as a buff right?
>>573818854No clue, I only tried orbital laser eustace so far.
>>573817819You are welcome.
>>573800684I think more it reminds me if thise fucking Chinese cultivation games where you ride the fucking sword like a skateboard but he's somehow reached enlightenment so high from being a dumb fuck Barafag that he'd ascended the plane to dunk in us ordinary humans.Love the guy, such a funny dood.
>>573817819This is why I play the game on day one, everyone's equally shit so it's more fun and challenging than being carried by someone else.
>>573817341I have never seen a Bea player eat the floor and I'm just hitting Insanity. You must be confusing them with Song and Narmaya players.
So whats the trick to not dying when bubs decides to nuke the entire arena?
I do not care for song's goose noises
>>573819551There is no trick. Accept defeat.
>>573818970Nope.
>>573808305>siegfriedHe was the only character I liked on release because everyone else felt annoying. I'd probably have gone vane more but I like siegfrieds gameplay a bit more and I always fall back to using him when I need to lock the fuck in. Super simple and I like his skills too. I just wish he had a better attack buff skill.
what character would you guys rec for a brand new player ? i enjoyed zeta in the demo but getting my ass raped by the hard difficulty mission with the red golem guy
>>573819583ASTEROIDO YEAGAAAHOOOOONKKK
So ive seen fediel, percival and vaseraga shit out 500 million dmg in the past few daysAngone else capable of this?
>>573819551Perfect Guard, Perfect Dodge, Invincibility.
>>573819946Zeta is pretty tricky, if you want an easy character charlotta is super easy and super strongIf you like to be a little more technical narmaya is popular since huge tits + samurai, if you want range eugen is pretty strong
>>573819551The one that he does at the middle of the fight?It doesnt cover the whole arena, he throws it at one corner, you can even the safe-not colored red-area when he casts it. When the sucks happens just run, it wont catch you.
>>573820094there was an Id here that also hit close to 500 million in a minute.
>>573820094Me.
>>573820094Percival? Really?
>>573819946Whatever catches you fancy in the Siero shop description preview
Is it me or is beatrix pretty fucking shit? Can't be just me right? She does no FUCKIN damage at all
>>573820094Damn I should try vase again. Please tell me it's not some dogshit meme playstyle
I have done 200 transmarvels after each quest and restarted the game each time for 2 days now.I still havent gotten the warpath + vaguely useful skill sigil for the character I like
>>573820232Remember when his whirl was bugged somehow and did dumb amounts of damage? Good times
>>573820094>Fediel, murders anything from anywhere in the arena at any momment>Percy, takes a while but he can burst bosses out of entire phases>Vas, needs the boss to stay still for 2 full SBA chains worth of timethey are not built the same
>>573820094Got a video of the Vaseraga one?
>>573820232Can confirm Percival is insane with the big nuke tree, and it's not just dummy DPS, he actually has an advantage in real fights that he can build up his nuke during downtime by parrying attacks.
>>573820415synthesis
>>573820285What build are you using and what mastery level do you have her at? If you're getting filtered by her clock management you're going to feel like you're not contributing much.
>>573820303Do you like dodge canceling 3 times in a row then hitting for millions once?
Id bros tell me I can have faith in dragonform and not be super gimped compared to the godmight lads
>>573820559Wasn't that sieg?
>>573820285She's extremely mid
>>573820285Beatrix's damage is a bit lower but it's traded for uptime since she can facetank the boss through a lot of AOEs and melee attacks that lesser beings have to actively block and dodge.
>>573820415cheat engine. it's way harder to get it now and it was already aids before
>>573820094Charlotta and Rosetta
>>573820510Can't synth warpath, war elemental, basically anything that starts at rank 15.
>>573813293what did they change?
Can someone explain to me how Charlotta, a top 2 character in the last game only got stronger while her contemporaries got nerfed into the ground?
>Just saw a Rosetta delete a dragon in link timeB-Bros... is Ghandagoza dead for real this time? His only gimmick, gone.
>>573820679>UptimeBro Sieg can just stand in puddles and crank out his cygays homoknight approved top tier dpsWhat the fuck is bea even good for
Fediel is getting nerfed hard back to 3m max in a week you dumb cunts, stop wasting your time with her
>>573820718You can now with ER though.
>>573820980But Sieg is gay and Bea has big boobs.
>>573816113not really, i spend like 90% of the time spamming plunge and the other 10% holding down x (thanks turbo controller) waiting for a move to come out so i can perfect dodge it. if you're spending more than 50% of the time holding x, you should probably get better at reading the boss
>>573820679Have we seen any 60 second score videos of a fully kitted Beatrix, Gallanza and Eustace with maxed Terminus yet? Of the new characters I've only seen a bunch of Fediel's, some Magi's and a single Fraux.
>>573821163>t. has zero Noble Order or Diamond Cutter stacks
>>573821105>Bea>BigAre you blind
>>573820873she isn't that strong, her dummy dps is just about average
>>573820980>cygays homoknight approved top tier dpsDoes he?
>>573821323Got a link to the video? Does it have her Terminus Weapon maxed out?
>>573821219https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c66VQHtG_Rk
>>573821053>>573820510No, you can't. Why be so blatantly dishonest?Bottom of the menu where the warpath sigils would be if you looked for them in a normal menu. No filters on.
>>573821451Isn't that her Defender Weapon?
>>573820980>someone with zero irony trying to say modern seig is good outside of CPU usageLMAO
>>573821451>not even 500Whats the point
Where do you guys farm summons? On Infinity difficulty?
>>573821284you only get 1 stack of noble order using crux which is the best path
>>573821719I prefer maxing out the Noble Order perks so I can drop Warpath for something else.
can you still afk farmdo you still spam gulp rumored monsters and lucifer
>>573821443https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWQtqOgFsFY
>>573821323>>573821443>Averagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWQtqOgFsFY
>>573821487Oh sorry my bad I thought he meant the normal sigil creation instead of transmarvels.
>>573821927yeah 500 is about average i would say 600 - 700m is above average
>>573820703is there a new cheat table?
>>573821586He's using it as a skin, they have 100k HP which would be unoptimal with defender
>>573821696Pretty sure they're using the Defender Weapon anon. Unless I'm just blind. A better comparison would be seeing how someone like say...Fraux, Gallanza and Magi does with a similar set up.
>>573821451So you don't even have to use basic attacks as Bea?
7/8 sky memories and i just collected some Sephira stones for Frauxdo i get the slutty catgirl for free soon?
I still don't understand why they didn't add the original magna summons as boss fights, they are pretty iconic
215D3DE2Free Faa0 (Mobile grub)
>>573821829Isn't Charlotta's Warpath still useful for the enhanced damage?
>>573822116Yes
>>573822080Makes sense then.
>>573822040What the fuck are you even talking about, the only character that has even been able to push 600 is Fediel
>>573822146Cause you can't slap them all on the same skeleton so just recoloring the same dragon 6 times is way easier
>>573808305The only two I've put real time into are Vane and Percival and I've yet to actually play Percival in Ragnarok.As for Vane, it's primarily because axes are the coolest weapon and tanky bruisers are fun. The fact that this ideal is properly seen in Ragnarok is fucking fantastic. The beatdown tree was fucking MADE for me. I love just relentlessly attacking through everything. Combine that with support tools in being able to spread buffs and rampart shitting on some mechanics and I'm completely alright with his personal damage not being top tier.
What's the best place to get Fortitude Crystals while going through Chaos+?
>>573822258no, sieg, eustace, vas and gallanza are all north of 600m. fraux is almost 600m herself, could probably hit it by the end of the week
I saw someone post a 450 mil Bea a while back on that bili website, but that's still below some of the 500 mil folks.
>>573822170
>>573822497>trusting chinksyeah no
Do I ignore the new characters until endgame? I still like playing Io and Cag.
>>573822464>Gallanza >600 millionAnd some where trying to say he was weak. I think it goes to show we should wait. The highest I saw of Fraux was sub 300 mil a few days ago and now it's suddenly jumped to 550 million.
Which fights give summons with better odds of fatebreaker, stout heart, and other ideal traits for asc/term weapon builds?
>>573822793a lot of the showcases right now don't have 100% damage cap on the summons, dickwaving records is a bit of a meme. next few weeks is when we'll be able to say for sure
>>573822223It's only 10% last time I looked at it. I can get that 10% from somewhere else. I need more DMG Cap, I'm hitting over 200% when using Warpath one
so aside from getting the last bits of the defense 5* nodes and getting a better warpath+ (weak point damage...), where do I go from here?at this point I think it's just summons. maybe a better fatebreaker too. wrightstone is stun/aegis/attack and that attack isn't doing any good I suppose but that's such a minor bump I'm not that concerned
>>573822464sieg's 600m is a meme because it requires explicitly cheesing his shitty stacking mechanic and it's completely impractical in any real content
>>573822464Can you post the Gallanza one? No idea he was capable of going that high.
>>573823102brother all barrold tests are completely impractical in any real contentthey also ignore things like party utility and any kind of defense. they're whiteroom bullshit
>>573821881Yeah honestly they need to nerf the Plunge finisher too. Holy fuck this is the most boring shit I have ever seen and having to actually play like this is so boring it gives me a headache.
>>573823191https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV13oN461ESi/?share_source=copy_webfrom what i can tell, he is actually bugged, but i'm not sure what or how the guy is triggering the bug
MY KEKQUEEN
How is my girl Zeta in the expansion? I literally cannot play anyone else.
>>573823005if you want to minmax like an autist, you can optimize your sigils so you have 5 basic stats as a mainline and 5 support or defense sigils due to those mastery traits everyone gets>20% more damage cap for every base stat sigil, up to 5>10k HP and 6% DEF for every defense or support sigil, up to 5for example, you could split that aegis with your celestial lumen for some more free health and defense. building a third stun sigil would be useful for endgame
>>573823005you still have 2 more slots for more stun power sigils. get 2 infinity summons with a celestial, spartan/berserker echo or war element on them so you can remove those orange sigils and put the stun sigils in your build and make sure those infinity summons have the 100% normal damage cap up trait
>>573823407One of her trees allows her to start looping again after the loop finisher, which feels really good
does mag (and the other new chracters i guess) only have 4 weapons?
>>573823281How many Bea or Fraux ones are out there anon?
>>573823919Bea and Eustace have 6, but all the other new characters only have 4, like the DLC for base game.
>>573823281What's the bug?
>>573823482>>573823675my stun power level is maxed through my wrightstone. overmaxed actuallyI'd be doing HP ones I thinksummons would probably open up a lot but mine are kinda dogshit. I do have a fatebreaker but it's 14 instead of 15 which is still probably worth cooking up a useful HP sigil and replacing the fatebreaker. it didn't get a cap up passive though
who's the most braindead DPS character to play?
>>573823992there a lot of them, but bea doesn't look too hot. fraux is like 590m last i checked, but they have a setup that gets them strength gains every time they take a link attack, which is obviously unrealistic in a real fight since link attacks are much rarer vs bosses than on sir barrod>>573824245no idea, he said it's something related to the dummy
>>573824438Anything ranged.
>>573822823You can put synthesis fatebreaker, the only things you'd ideally aim for on summons are things that can only go into the primary slot like war elemental, echos, etc
>>573823876>looping again after the loop finisherFucking BASEDI can't wait to get back into it.
flamek unleashed eustace is too hard for a shitter like me to play.. what do you mean getting hit removes my buff that takes like 20 seconds to get and need to stack 3 times?!
i think im doing something wrong one eustace, got 30k power yet i cant oneshot a slime, should i charge every shot?
So whats the easiest to use of the 500-600m dmg dealers? Im shit at the game
>>573824801Spartan and Berserker echos can show up too? Neat. I should try and summon farm then for stout heart and some echos.
>>573824496What's the highest Bea you've seen?
>>573823482>>573823675got a health/fatebreaker and a greater aegis/lumen but did not get lucky with aegis/terra before running out of terra sigilswhat's a good terra farming quest?
>>573825134absolutely fediel, she can basically go all gas no breaks in any situation unlike the other characters you see big numbers on sir barrold
>>573825134Io probably, simply nuke from the other side of the arena
Fediel is eating a nerf soon you faggots
>>573824438EugenThe only problem with him is that while you're charge shotting you can't see the fucking floor and that's like 70% of attack tells in the expansion
>>573823005You can try to fish out a better Black Mark. Her sigil that makes her voidstep unnoticeably faster and provides 20% damage cap is kind of uselessAlso be sure you have Celestial Ventus because that 10% extra damage is a separate multiplier above the damage cap even though it doesn't look like it.I also really like having quick cooldown 45 and cascade 15+ for 100% uptime on her attack buff and being able to have a shortcut to 5 ball yeets at all times. It makes her feel smoother and funner to play imo
>>573825134fediel>>573825350nah, Io gets cucked a decent amount by the spastic bosses later on and you just miss your 50mil nuke
>farming infinity luci for referees and to clean up his rank>party seems good, everyone has nice damage>get him to low hp with a link time>linktime stays at a sliver as he goes into gopherwood arc>ALL of the aoes are slowed and everyone is still in their linktime burst mode>gopherwood's aoes are slowed and stay on the field for a solid minute because of this>tfw paradise lost pops during this and then the party wipes afterokay i guess i'll go for the S++ rank later thenbe careful with his forced gopherwood HP gate and link times i guess, holy moly
What's the difference between def up and damage reduction?
>>573825037They take 0 damage while inside their pot
>>573825431I wanted to play her from the start and will still play her even if she gets nerfed
Just unlocked Chaos++I hate how if i get one damage cap off it goes down to 64 :)
>Everyone gets new builds with the mastery system, some gimmicks, some not>Unless you're Ferry.This fucking SUCKS. At least her support tree is ok.
>>573825739One increases defense and one reduces damage done
>>573825240520m but he has 4 infinity summons all with 100% cap up + spartan/bersker/war ele
>>573825887petless ferry is kinda like a new gimmick even if you're still jumpspamming, the stack management is new
>>573825817Don't know why everyone is sure she will be nerfed. Her kit works exactly as designed, there is no exploit or bug there, its just her numbers are overtuned. But have they never nerfed a character's damage that was overtuned? They fixed shit like funnel snapshotting percival because that was a bug with his skill but characters like charlotta which always had overtuned damage was never nerfed in the base game.
Should I just do the DLC story or continue with conflux? does it matter? I'm already at endgame strength so everything is very easy so far
>>573825574I got a feeling I'm definitely gonna miss having maxed quick cooldownand yeah the 20% cap from blackflash is probably not worth a slot, you are right. I just like the feeling of lining up and maintaining buffs and debuffs
>>573826159yeah they completely killed rackam's jump attacks, on release, those had such high caps that you could barely cap them even stacking all the damage sigils in the game, he was hilariously overtuned
>>573826135Petless ferry is the for the absolute soulless jumpspam builds, you don't even play her differently, but now it directly contradicts all of her unique sigils, woohoo!
Anyone that has a unique sigil so bad they don't actually want to use their awakening+ sigil?
>>573826159Rackam's aerial was nerfed hard.
>>573826159They nerfed Ferry and Rackam who both had the exact same damage cap issues. They also nerfed Danchou's Reginleiv.
>>573826159They killed the damage cap on some spammable shit in the base game patches
>>573826316you kind of do because you need to line up your 9 stacks with a burst window. you're jump spamming still but you have to manage burning pets at the right moment
>>573825920500-600 million seems like the standard range for most of the cast. The game doesn't seem that terribly unbalanced?
>>573826462Anon people were doing 500mil without the 100% Damage Summons
>>573826182You need to get to Chaos+ to get the actual important unlock from Conflux anyways
gonna go fight the world for the first time ladswish me luck
>>573825816im talking about small damage outside of the pot
>>573826314Rackam was on another tier of broken though. Everyone had a pocket Rackam to farm proto baha for Terminus weapons. Fed on the other hand may be strong but is still reasonably inline with other characters.
>>573826462it's hard to say since some character showcases seem to not have good summons while some like bea has 4x 100% cap up + lv15 special orange traits. also of course it comes with the caveat of how much transfers over to a real fight, like a charlotta plunge spam isn't gonna be much different vs a boss but fraux isn't gonna get a link attack every 15 seconds for a free strength gains
>>573826462Dummy dps tests aren't practical, if you run a parser in any real fight you start to see the cracks in the balance between characters that can unga their way to the top and those that can't and have to respect mechanics. Until players emerge that are so fucking good at the game that they can perfect block every single attack while keeping their rotations up AND keep up with bosses that move around everywhere, the skill floor/ceiling for the cast is always going to have a huge difference in effective characters.
>>573826735>Fed on the other hand may be strong but is still reasonably inline with other characters.You're delusional, people already have made builds where she was pushing a billion damage on billibilli
>>573826597Got itAm I gonna be one shotting everything in conflux for awhile or does it get to harder stuff pretty fast?
>>573825739>def upLowers damage received>reductionapplies after defense calculations and cuts damage received by a flat % amount
What buffs does Beatrix gets with her three color clocks?
best weapon to transcend first?
>>573826865Damn I've only seen 550, didn't know they've already broken 1 bilIt's bilibili though, is it actually legit
do i spam conflux 3 as a extreme/maniac cutie?
>>573827185defender
>>573796730jewtenshi
>>573827185defender,
>>573826735rackam got nerfed pretty quick
>>573827185Either the crit weapon or the HP weaponHP will let you unga bunga smooth brain the entire DLC, crit is marginally more damage but be prepared to hit the floor if you don't want to learn boss attacks
How many times will the game let me afk loop for a farming mission?
>>57382762110
Have people datamined which summons can get which sigils/stats and where the drop tables are for them?
Any way to stop camera from re-centering when steering Mag's finishers? Can't see SHIT on the floor when doing it. I am at Chaos++ Bubs and pretty much all quests at this point have floor explosions every 5 seconds (or more often). In fact, I can't see anything at all because the camera keeps shifting when steering and shooting Blade Dance, and the third finisher completely blocking the bosses.
>>573825887Charlotta didn't really get anything new though. It just incentivized what people were already doing.
>>573827769I was about to ask this same thing so I can focus on the right shit.
>>573826624I just did it. Extremely fair and fun fight, took me 25 minutes with my shit geared NPC's but at least I got his fight down.His DPS checks are very reasonable too, I hope people online will learn to STACK the cards together as that saves 90% of the headaches.
>>573828146how do you stack the cards together? is it based on player location?
>>573826915Only Conflux 5 really felt like it was on the proper difficulty when I did it immediately as it unlocked. Dunno if there's one past that yet but that's where you get the unlock for transcending your Ascension weapons.
>>573827185Defender has the earliest partsStun is honestly probably the most useful until you can get Ascension though, if you're slotting in HP somewhere.You need to transcend everything for the mastery stats though.
>>573828146oh they never do, like fucking never
>>573828295When you're getting chased by the beams the cards land wherever the beam stoppedThe rest are in preset spots
>>5738282954 of them follow the players before they drop on their location. 2 more are placed randomly in a part of the arena. You can block their circle attack and instantly charge in to blow them up together.>>573828538Thought so kek, at least so long they instantly focus their own card it should be okay, the timer is pretty generousni feel.
So for people mostly doing solo play are there characters that make ideal team mates for supports and shit?Like cags masteries make a very broken buffer and Granjeeta got infinite substitute now? Or is it like, depending in who you use kinda situation? I'd like to know so when I start minmaxing characters there's at least some support characters for those dpss I play.
>>573828731Cag and Mag are the best shielders. Cag in general is probably the best NPC support. Yordaha is a great source of Mirror Images but he can throw it out randomly when you don't really need it. Rosetta's buffs/debuffs are insane. Captain and Narmaya now have dedicated tank builds and as AI they'll never go down.
>>573826624THE WORLDS SHIT GOES THROUGH CHARLOTTAS INVICIBILITY??BROS IM FUCKED I CANT USE MY BRAIN
>fighting bubz but there's one song/io/eugene/rack in the partyCan we auto ban everyone who uses them? I'm sick of the boss teleporting to the ass end of the map constantly.
does anyone know what maglielle's meter dump counts as? normal attack?
Do you think they will actually nerf Fediel? i havent gotten to play her yet...
>>573829495they always dick around at max distance too just to deal no damage inbetween getting bent over
>want to install it on the steam deck and see how it runs since i am on the move the next couple days>128 GBwhat the shit? was it always this big? i can't imagine ER added a lot of data to it. since there's only like a couple new character and boss models.
>>573829759a certain voluptuous character takes up a lot of space.
bros, me and my friends just finished the last fight of the base game and we like to fight everything with just the 3 of us and no AI. we just started ragnarok and I see there's this full burst thing that says it specifically needs 4 people, is it required for some fights or can we manage without it?
how do you progress the defeat ragnalia quest? do you need to be in chaos+ because i'm not getting progress for killing ragnalias in chaos
>>573830432full burst is when you all use your ultimate in successionpretty mandatory mechanic
3 hours in MSPaint
>>573830432Honestly for some a couple rights I think it's a requirement? I know some people like to have 4 and they stagger their bursts not because it's more damage. Usually it's to stun lock the boss longer so it's like 2 bursts the right when it's done the boss is down for like 19 seconds then you 2 bursts again. Used to be a main strat for baha orignally.
>>573830454just keep progressing on the quest counter
>>573830432>just the 3 of us and no AIi dont see why you would do this, is this some soulsfag retardation?
>doing the world>someone gets to critical before the second fight startsReal talkShould I leave?
>>573830432Is not really a requirement but a full burstfull gives 100% Link Time. Theres nothing that will require really require it but it will be just less smooth.
>>573829759the patch was like 40 gig and I honestly have no clue where that would come from
>>573828146>play Vane>Press rampart>laugh>>573830709Yeah, don't fucking try to 2-2 in Ragnarok, bosses WILL instantly bloodlust.
>>573830432Some bosses do a mini bloodlust attack. It's pretty much a nothing burger.
Hey at the end of the world fight during wheel of fortune everyone just starts chain dying when we hit the cardsWhat's being done wrong?
>>573830864Trying to parry the Quickening, not really. Now to anything else, specially the balls, i would consider it if keeps getting downed.
>>573831026The mechanics are a bit obtuse if you didn't play the gacha.Double blue cards/Sword want you to keep the HP level of the cards balanced.Evil looking red card needs to die before the number hits zero.
>>573831026The only hard ones are Justice if people just unga too hard on a single scale.Then the Judgement+Death combo, someone needs to take agro from the bubbles or Death will wipe the party
>>573831213The "balance" one literally puts them both on giant scales and links themwith a line and the death one had an actual death countdown idk how that is obtuse
I'm actually in shock at the degeneracy of this Fediel. I've been farming Dragons for MSP/Sigils on repeat and I don't actually mind having jump cancelling Fediels just to make it go faster. My Ghandagoza however really shines in Link Time and I still do more damage in this environment, but this Fediel got so butthurt that I got more merits the first round that she literally refused to engage link time in the second repeat and then left after getting MVP. What the fuck is wrong with these people. I started recording for the next stun just to make sure she was avoiding linktime on purpose
>>573830962idk really?people still 2-2 on er protobaha and he falls over. granted he is kind of a punching bag even in er
>>573831401Have you played pubs?If there isn't a tutorial or tooltip, they aren't going to know what the fuck is going on.Bubs bound/World spheres are the same
>>573831213>>573831026When the death card shows up 1 person has to keep slapping the judgement card or else it will spam bubbles.
>>573830885damn, that explains why behe and lucilius felt so weird for us. it would take so long to build up our link time that we would get 0 or 1 per fight. we were never able to power through his 12th thing. every other boss we could get multiple link times easily>>573830808idk, its just the way we've been playing since the beginning
>>573831476No, he doesn't. He literally immediately pops bloodlust as he hits the deck, so unless you're mashing sba during the 2 man burst, he's not getting locked in.
eustacebros you're running quick charge?
>>573831475Someone told me punch mans link time doesn't work the same anymore?
>>573832078If there's any difference between pre and post Ragnarok then I don't know what it is
>>573831475Fediel players are the new Narm players. No idea how people just keep wiping the floor on her when your main combo puts you in such a safe space.
>>573831641i have no idea what this means. he isn’t in bloodlust once you finish an arcadia add phase and he falls over, and you pop your 2+2 when he gets up from that
>>573827185Stunner>Stinger>Defender>Executioner.Max Ascension weapon ASAP.Don't listen to Defender shitters.
>fediel players triggering the luci landmines
>>573828731rosetta is an ideal companion because she is very sexy and provides some passable buffs and I have her leveled and comfortably m3 ascended already which is good enough for my AI purposessiegfried is also a good companion because I can heap all manner of horrible abuse upon him and he will never complain or die. he takes it on the chin. thank you siegfried for protecting my life with your own. what a palmag and cag are fake and gay respectively because I do not have them built and do not want to. if I never had to see or hear cagliostro again my life would be improved, making him the worst companion
is there any worse feeling than getting a sandolphon in your party?
Why doesn't this game have any alt outfits? Isn't that the upside of having a 3d game?
>>573832546Bro typed all of that to make no statement except "dont like cag"
>>573832679they are working on it
>>573832748he's made like 8 posts like that too
>>573795952I see that if I redeem characters now I get them at 100 and mastery 20, is this the max?
>>573832594Nothing is worse than seeing a Ferry in an Infinity attempt.
This same success couldve happen to SAO fractured daydream if Bandai cared
>>573832854no
IMMOOTARU ASSARUTOOOOOOOOO
Are Fediel's non-orb trees also good?
>boss is low hp and nobody has needed/used summons>throw out referee so he does a count right before the boss dies
Is Rackam still the slime busting king?
Where are the cog bros, which mastery is even worth taking? Insight?
>>573832748I mean siegfried is good because he tanks everythingbut yes I do not like cag>>573832817actually I haven't. maybe like one other>>573832934the clawspam one is very good, just extremely boring because you just stand there looping miasma and claw attacks. the skill one is undertuned because sphere of reversal is kind of undertuned
>>573832897the gameplay in those games is super jank unlike what we have here
>>573832327i never understood the narm player shitpost even back when the game originally launched, most narms were average and any bad ones only stood out because there were a ton of narms in general
>>573833003take crux and become a buffslut, we all know you’re not doing damage anyway
>>573832546>rosetta is an ideal companion because she is very sexyI don't need to read more, this is true.
>can only sell 30 sigils at a timewhy
>>573832367Chaos++ monsters (or maybe any fatebreaker rank fight) will instantly bloodlust after a non-full burst SBA chain to counter shit like 2-2 or even the 3-1 if you have something like a Cag who uses theirs super early and then has another ready after the 3 burst.
Alright stout heart summon might have been a curse, I just watched the AI literally just stand still during world's sepphira's sandbox and let the laser cards kill me from substitute damage. I have never seen the AI be this willing to eat hits before, I might need to stop using substitute once I'm a full stacks because the AI is actively griefing me
>>573832897That was a fucking awful game though
>>573833209Use the mass sell filter
Tried Mag, tried bomb Fediel, tried Fraux, but in the end, I always come back to Box because she's still my favorite. She has the most braindead gameplay, and being able to just hop around the arena while invincible is too much fun.
>>573826378Bea's Adversity is basically worthless.30% more cap for being an enmity effect is hot garbage. If it were a Damage Dealt buff or she could get a gorillion stacks of Undying like in the browser game it might be different.
>>573833095I really wanted to avoid that but i guess ill at least try it
>>573826378IIRC one of Id's sigils only works in godsmight so if you're running essence/dragonform Id which locks godsmight its a wasted slot.
Still trying to catch up through proud. Is Zeta supposed to spam the loops to extend the link time or is better to fit in as many hammer falls?
Super Collapse or Crippling Combos on Cog?
>>573833274it’s just hp-gated from what i can tell, it seems like baha doesn’t bloodlust until 25 so you can just start the next 2 chain before he drops that low and skip the whole supernova phase
the canine duo has BOW WOW'D THE CROWD AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So Kat still sucks ass?
how 2 build big dick tank Sieg who isn't afraid of anything and will leeroy into danger without dying i am looking at the sigils and masteries (still at rank 2 of new tree) and nothing "tanky" stands out to me
>finally beat the world>chill in town for a bit >suddenly video card shits out>I DIDNT HAVE AUTOSAVE ONNO FUCK MAN NOIT TOOK ME SO MANY TRIES FUUUUCK FUCK FUCK
>>573833816alchemedic
The game won't give me Bea's Warpath
>>573834137flingrainer bwo
Is it me or is lucilius a bit too overtuned for matery 30 characters
>>573832924Imouto Assault
>>573834137just cheat in a clear with like godmode or one hit kill? you know you already did it in your heart
>>573834042stout heart, aegis, guts, potion hoarder, and whatever else you can fit in
Is there any point in having 120%+ crit rate or are my stats just going to waste?Also, will I actually fight some new enemies at some point because jc I've been fighting the same dragon/golem/goblin reskin for the last 30 games and I'm afraid I can take it no longer.And if it's not them its a boss from the main story which I already fought. This is beyond tedious.
I keep trying to setup an afk farm with Rackam but he keeps just fucking off, did they need it?
>>573834417Stinger weapons get cap and atk up based on how close to 200% crit you get
>>573834140That one is lame.
>Fully Transcended my shit and my Cap was so high i was getting 80% dmg and had to actually go back and put Mastery Nodes into ATK% to compensatedamn that took long enough
>>573834417The crit weapons get an upgrade in the expansion that gives damage cap up for being over the crit capOtherwise extra crit is wasted but some characters just get a lot built in already.
>>573834042I assume a lot of the same things tank captain wants. stout + steel, a fuckload of aegis/greater aegis, regen(or preferably divergence), and drain. When your HP is 400K+ the only times you should be dying are because you substituted and your team is braindead or you do something incredibly stupid. I'd also consider potent greens since sieg doesn't have an active cleanse but if you play around your veil effect it should be fine
>>573833797one hammer is like 8 pogos, you do arves+lift up jump+hammer as much as possible. No idea how her loops look now with new masteries styles tho.
>>573834583How can you actually tell?
are sigil drops just random? terra+ is listed as one of furycane's drops but I've done 4 without a single one, just getting a bunch of random crap. I was thinking they were maybe weighted to drop from certain quests but it is looking like that is not true, and there are bosses I could kill faster than fury "bloodlust" cane
Is there a lore reason as to why almost everyone is blonde?
>>573834798
Is there a way to increase low mastery rolls without rerolling? I got the right stats but they're almost min roll.
>>573834920the damage past cap number keeps going up every time i see this
>>573834798go into training mode and press left/right on the dpad, it changes your damage numbers to percentages of capvery handy>>573834929god I fucking wishmy overmastery still sucks but I need so much other mastery I can't justify blowing shit on it
>>573834920Is that how the display on the dummy works?
I don't like doing math, I wish the game had a fucking stat page that gives you total numbers for your stats like your total damage cap values
>>573834245It kinda do sound like that lol. I love her screaming.
>>573835040ye
>>573835086you don't need to do any math. the game does it all for you. all you need to do is look at your % damage in training mode and then either add cap or damage
So for infinity Hexa you want max uplift, right? Like they are too tanky in both HP and stun bar to actually get them without the SBA time out.
>>573835243what about the difficulty-specific dmg caps? the one whose name escapes my jav-addicted mind at the moment.
>>573835243I mean as in I want to know my total numbers so I can weigh my options on whether or not I want to change my sigils/summons around to get more damage cap or more comfy. I won't know the actual difference in my damage going up unless I make drastic changes to my loadout and go to the training dummy but if I knew the total numbers, I can easily tell from looking at that before doing any changes to my character.
>>573835440fatebreaker is the only one and (I am reasonably certain) that is it effective in training mode
>>573835606It's only effective if you set Barrold to Chaos++
You know the devs knew they dug themselves into a hole with damage cap being the entire endgame meta when they put a shit ton of dmg cap nodes in the DEFENSE mastery tree once you get past master trait 50.
Who is the worst character in the game currently?
>>573834913Moon people are frisky
>Thought I had a ton of damascus ingot saved up>I don'tOH NO
Someone explain luci's sword mechanics in chaos++I can't block itI can't parry itI can't dodge it because he stuns me through a ground quake beforeehand
>>573835375More damage
>>573835375Just make sure there's atleast one person who kept their SBA up. Never full chain him unless you're at the last 30% of its HP.
>>573833538KICK ALL ENMITY BEARS ON SIGHT
>>573832952from what i see in his masteries, he might even be better. but I don't have him built up.
>>573834137this is why you close the game every 3 hours or so, grubba
>>573835813at least they're addressing it somewhat
>>573835770huh. well, I set him to chaos++ instead of infinite and my damage over cap actually went up, so I don't think fatebreaker is actually a concern. it's not like I could have less attack in my build than I already do
>>573836369Fatebreaker does not work in infinite.
I'm getting Switch newqt's when queueing Quick Quest nowTheyre all playing Narmaya...
>couldn't possibly have less attack in my build than I do>only ways I could increase damage cap are through summon passives and using terminus>still hitting 150%s before even applying def downs or buffsthere is going to be some POWERCREEP in the coming patches
I'm going to powerbomb siero if she doesn't give me the sigils I want
ONEGAI BAHAMUT
>>573834920I remember the time when beato can't even make a proper weapon grid...
>>573835813thats how it works in the mobile game anon
>>573836871defense down and buffs scale past dmg cap
>Played Box from day 1 because they didn't add any of the characters that I like>ER came out and I decided to switch to a new character>Fraux has some weird card thing>Bea has some weird clock thing>Song is weak (according to jp tier list)I think I suffered permanent brain damage from spamming spin attacks.
>>573837223No wonder they can't get anything right if they are using mobile trash mechanics still.
>maybe I just have too little hp for lucilius>swap to defender build>still get one tapped
wait can you not Synthesis with personal skills
>>573837347I know, but if they aren't doing that they're also helping you meet caps, which I don't even need them to do for me to be way over cap just very weird and why I am certain there's going to be some fucked up cap sigils pending. maybe a new weaponsuper ultimate lucilius EX +R that drops ultima weapons that break the game in half with 1000% cap up or something. just to fit in another fucking lucilius fight with Guest Starring: Sandalphon from the Granblue Fantasy Series again
>>573837669it would be too convenient
>>573837669the whole synthesis system is infuriating and i wish they'd just let people pick the outcome already
>>573837789it's not that bad. grinding out the +s you need and gambling on them is fine. most skills you want drop in large enough number that you've got excess to try and synthesize them. ER is much better at it. the only sigil I'm struggling with getting a ton of is celestial terra
Best thing to dump rafale coins on?
>>573837950Fuck you FUCK YOUTWO DAYS OF EVERY SINGLE QUEST I DO A TRANSMARVEL AND RE LOAD HOPING FOR A SINGLE WARPATH SIGIL WITH A VAUGELY USEGUL MOVE ATTACHEDFUCK YOU
>>573838074what are they even basing this on? vibes?
>>573838013Centrums until you have like 100then Fortitude L
>>573838074>Zero Damageliostro>S tierShe needs buffs.
I am still progressing through Chaos++ and now there is a 100+50 Fediel in every quest blasting the boss into oblivion. Just had one in Baha Versa quest with 10mil out of 14mil honors in the end. Rackam was not this bad on release, or at least he wasn't as popular.
>>573838074my fuarking hero needs to be higher
>>573838074>day 5 tier list
>>573833003buffslut unless you want to become a collapse rabbit and give yourself carpal tunnel
>>573838074>4.1 S tier>4.5 C and V tier
>>573838245>pedofon i mean, alright
>>573838240chaos++ is just not tuned for people who have already cleared it
>>573838074i have no idea how anyone can even justify fraux being in s tier. she’s just ok
>>573838235truke
>>573838235the insight path is so weirdit gives you instant collapse but it barely even buffs collapse so what’s the point
>>573838197Penis size
>>573838396I hear she most thrives in the dummy test because of all the Link stuff w/o it I don't know how she fares.
>>573838074The japanese or the American tier list, which is better?
>>573838653without link attack abuse, i think she’s like slightly under 500m which is average
who am I maxing next between>rosetta>eustace>vaseraga>fraux>rackam>oigenI narrowed gallanza and bea out, they don't seem very interesting
>>573838898For your own play or CPU?
This is what peak performance looks like.
>>573838952kinda both. I'd be playing them as I work on them instead of just using my 5* maxed character to do it
>>573838353the age of consent is very low in the skies
>>573839039I vote rosetta. Unique gameplay, useful as CPU, got buffed, pretty hot.
>>573839071Is that how he justifies his name being all over the Europa Files?
Why the fuck is conflux not multiplayer? Feels like I'm punished for not building idle teams.
Is drain shit?Im like hitting for literally millions and healing for like 1000 hp
>>573839413There's a cap to how much you can drain per attack, which makes multi hit attacks the better way to use drain.
>>573839413is that drain 30?
Totally retarded list. Someone dreamt this up in a drunken stupor
>>573839306dont worry about that
None of the new characters gameplay wise interest me besides the loli and I'm not a pedophile....
>>573837451Everything else is just slow and clunky by comparison is the issue. Charlotta's just a literal blender of death that never has to stop or slow down and just shits out infinite rapid slashes and damage numbers non-stop while everyone else has to do some 4-stage long-form dance for a mere 10-piece combo and then do it all again. So everything else just feels straight up worse because of it.
>>573835813it's a shounen trope, power levels only go up, why are you playing a shounen animay game
Tier lists are like: Here are the characters everyone knows are good, here are the characters I play, here are the characters I took to the DPS dummy and just assumed were good based on the outcome I got
>>573840035If that was the case cag wouldn't be god tier her damage sux
>>573838074naru needs buffs, I'm sick and tired of "people will buy/play the popular character anyway"
I'm out of usable Damage Cap Vs.No I will not swap them off of characters...
>>573839020>Flight over FightYeah I don't think so.
>>573837451>>573839925Must be nice to be top tier in both games
>>573839912>he's retardedMy condolences.
>>573840251whyit’s not like you’re gonna stop capping since your atk is still so high
>>573840384Isn't it a 50% damage reduction? You're definitely dropping below cap with that.
>>573840035>>573839912Why are you guys afraid of replying to people, that's kind of pathetic
>>573840251Thats the joke.At MasterLvl50 you can get so much overcap damage it's actually a good thing to get it since you are trading all the wasted damage for an insane invulnerability on dodge
>>573838074>>573838689both of these lists are complete shiti'm not taking any lists seriously until a few weeks have passed for people to get optimal sigils and summon rolls, and even then the lists will likely be based off of bullshit like barrel parses and not actual usefulnessanyone saying shit like lance, kat, or sieg belong in low tier doesn't play the game enough
>Beat the infinity quests with BeatrixEven in red-mode her damage feels subpar but her unga bunga capabilities hold upLucilius was the hardest one by far, Bubs second
>>573840598>>>573840515
>>573840781tank sieg is fucking insane manturns the whole team invincible and does fantastic damagehe's just not very fun to play as which is a shame since he has cool animations. I wish the skillspam trait was worth a damn
Any new players that have already hit endgame?At which point did you start playing online/were able to consistently get lobbies?
>>573835813Be thankful they haven't introduced assassin, fixed supplemental damage, flurry and separate echo instances yet.
>>573834849Quad dragons drops most types of the new sigils and it's not much longer than a single boss quest since they have reduced HP each, I think
Do I seriously have to farm Infinity Luci for his summon? Chaos version doesn't drop shit, and I can't carry Infinity diff consistently.
>>573841137I got his summon from the normal fight.
>>573837223And that changes anything how? It's still an objectively shit system.
>>573837741I hope if they do a sequel they just ditch the damage cap shitI know it's part of the mobile game but it still feels so backasswards here>>573838571It adds more debuffs to Collapse or some shit in the smaller traits in tier 2 or 3
>>573840947tank sieg has decently good damage while also making runs significantly smoother, he's greatmy only complaint for tank sieg is that he doesn't get buff stacks from successfully using his parry because the parry synergy feels a little tacked on, but getting a perfect exe after a parry feels so great it's like it should have been a default feature for the skillthe skillspam trait would probably be the best one if it didn't have a fucking timer to its buff. you only need 5 stacks, you only gain slightly less damage than the 7 stack build, but you get so much utility from spamming your skills that it more than makes up for it. not to mention that even when the 7-stack trait hits 7 stacks, you realistically can't spam perfect execution on a boss anyway. there WILL be situations where you need to lunge instead of perfect exe, or when you'll need to stop spamming it in order to dodge or reposition. the infinity quests are the best example of this, luci and the world will completely fuck any siegs mindlessly perfect exeing
Did Percival get anything fun?
>>573841137chaos++ drops luci summonsinfinity luci is for ref summons
I'm in hell.Silver Centrum hell.
>>573840834Are quest taking longer to clear in Unga Mode?
>>573841137Just make a lobby
>>573841274At this point even the Genshit clones and EVERY OTHER GAME TO FUCKING EXIST manage it better. Just have the attacks and skills have fixed values and maybe upgrade them through seperate systems from levels 1 to 10 (or higher if one so wishes like how PoE skill gems go from 1 to 20) and drop the damage cap mechanic entirely.
>>573841269It's fine. These kinds of games lend themselves to stacking attack so if Damage Cap was removed you'd just have a bunch of other mandatory sigils instead.
>>573841490Not reallyBea damage is just kinda ehhhShe makes up for it with unga bunga though
>exclusively played pure support Rosetta>it's fun but also quite passive with simple Combo D spamming to keep up the buffs/debuffs>try out her Lost Love CD reset traits>does triple the damage of my main character>with half the gearHoly fuck she's a MONSTER now
>>573841580Yeah but at least there would be variety instead of just 10 sources of DMG Cap or else you do no damage.
What is up with bea players insisting shes unga bunga, are they disappointed shes not and are coping?That hourglass is anything but unga, sorry that you lost your infamous title to charlotta or galanza
>>573838689this list is fucking trash
>>573841698>the soft stance switch that every comment about playing bea in here tells you to simply not engage with makes her not ungahuh?
>>573841678There would be literally no variety. You just max stam tyranny crit damage supp echoes combo booster life on the line etc etc, still the same build for everyone.
>>573841343i sometimes accidentally trigger perfect execution right after a dodge. there IS an esoteric art to weaving in perfectly timed polyrhythmic beatskips shit and get perfect dodges while not breaking the PE chain. but this requires knowing the boss fight like the back of your penis AND being able to see what the fuck is going on in melee range when everyone else starts dumping their spells. i belong to neither categories.
>>573836835It does
>>573841667I'd gear mine up if the AI knew to use combo D but I doubt it does.
>>573841843Add different stat sources then like specific Element%+ stats and drop all the super-old mobage shit that just give you absurd amounts of blanket damage sources.
>>573841698Really in the grand scheme of things where does she rank in damage? It's not like she's the worst character in that game like some anons are acting. If people can clear with Ferry and Katalina they can clear with her. Not everyone needs to be a meta slave anon.
>>573841483>can't even switch up the character to clear the stoy with because it needs like 100 centrums to remake the weaponI hate this
>>573841483you can buy them with rafale shitcoins BUY BUY BUY
>>573842001>>573841483Wots funny is that in ER, they shit out centrums even though you still need a shit ton. Like a single quest can give you 50 centrums.
>>573841990>>573841843Or have different characters have unique scalings like having a ton of things on Vane scale with HP, things like Charlotta and Narmaya scaling with Crit Rate, and other more unique scaling option ideas.
>>573841990The mobage has the most varied gearing systems among all gacha games bar none.
>farm this>to farm that>to farm this>to farm that>to farm this>to farm that And you guys like this?
PSA if you need more jew vouchers, the Ragnites trade for a ton of them and you get way fucking more than you need from quests
>>573842157Yes I'm a grubber and a hunter.
>>573842149
>>573841404yes, all three of his trees are great. He has two silly ones and one "i just want to play like i did before" tree>landing schllacht++ gives a random chance to reset 1-2 skill cooldowns, letting you spam damage skills or buffs or petrify. this can easily be used to give a constant ATK and DEF buff to the team while regularly statusing the boss>stacking buff that grows with landing schlacht++, charge parrying, link attacks, or using his buffs; hitting 9 stacks lets you hold down Zerreissen to turn it into a multi-million damage nuke>basic tree that a permanent buff for landing charged parries
>>573838571that path tries to do 2 roles but fails hard at boththe debuffs are nowhere near the dps increase your team gets from super phantasma and later bosses resists burn/poison so there goes the DOT cope. random slow can be great but also griefs everyonedps lol lmao even
>>573842325GBF is the only game where defensive stats that are actually used for defense (like healing cap up) can be more important than atk.
>>573842448Every other gacha to ever exist has had Healing Bonus for healers too retard. Try again.
>>573842526Name 1 where the stat is actually used to heal and recover instead of "healing" to enable some damage mechanic.
I want to strangle Sierokarte
>>573842654This but only because I know she would like it
Meet your next DLC character
>>573841274it only adds debuffs to her finishers and skills. when you inflict enough debuffs, you get infinite instant collapse for 20s… except the path barely buffs collapse so it’s still weak
>>573842690i wanna use the dps meterbut alas, i'm on linux i remain blissfully ignorant to just how much i'm being carried by usernames with chinarunes in them
>>573842690My damage is often like cag's because more often than not the boss will drop aggro just to kill me whenever I try to do damage to the boss.
ok the real tier list is here>>573842846would be hype to throw CHAOS LEGGY-ON back at Bubz.
>>573842846CHAOS IMPACTO
>>573842645Basically all of them? Are you retarded or something? Healing Bonus stats have never been used as a source of a DPS buff, it was strictly used for bigger heals in the same way that Elemental DMG% was used as a direct % increase to damage, Healing Bonus% does the same thing for heals themselves in literally every game.
>>573842846kit already stolen by fediel
>>573842690is there a real parser update yet, or is it still that scuffed one on nexus that flags antivirus prompts without openly showing the source code?
>>573842846God i fucking wish, i would forgive cygames for everything
>>573842846babu babubabu
>>573843163Just take Bubs moves then
>>573843167the original parser also flags the same memory hook prompt. i checked it on virustotal and it seemed clean
Bros why does gallanza suck assThis sucks
I finally was able to cobble together this win by the skin of my teeth with 2.50 characters worth of investment.
>>573841667I'm starting her now and I want to do the love lost/spiral rose loop thing but the trait nodes for it kinda suckI don't want fuckin' attack I want the cap ups from the other styles
>>573842846fediel if she was actually cool and cute
>>573843364that is one long ass fight wtf, but then again you have a CPU vaseraga
>>573842846That would be too based for Cygays to put in.
>>573842435idk what they were thinking with the debuffs lol, not only it is so random but the effects are so shit. and then the path doesn’t even do anything else except give you free collapses which are also shit
>>573843492It's specifically for that title to use the Society to beat Pyet. The NPCs will wail on him during his bloodthirst but won't touch him when he jumps to the side and does his 90% room explosion for some reason.
how rare is concentrated fire sigil i've only gotten only one sand i have 120h in the game
>>573843818It means you never ran the quests that drop them
>Thank you for playingThe game is over, DONE, cygay is never going to touch it again.Now go back to kusoge
How viable is Tank Fraux
>>573842157Nyes, the carrot on the stick is not a problem when you enjoy everything else about the game
>>573841068Quick quests seem to work at least.
>master level 49 song in infinity zegalith>leave after the first two trials failhow the fuck did this guy get carried past the other quests?
>>573843914not even from fucking synthesis? do i have to run my old ass quests to "unlock" sigils or what?
>>573843664this is the only title that matters and only if you've gotten it before the dlc and the updates (LIKE I DID FOR FUCKS SAKE)
This game needs more erunesThe child molesting whorish kind
just found something interesting about beatrix. you don't even need to use her full skills to get the finisher, meaning you dodge cancel out immediately after casting it and do either the combo finisher or the power finisher. In the case of both, just do the first hit. Once you make contact you get the buff/embrasque levels.
It's not at all surprising that a character will have some design oversight that makes them way too strong. What I DO find surprising is just how fucking quickly it manifests in the playerbase like a zog hivemind. Somehow mere days after the release of Ragnarok and only like a couple at most of discovering Fediel jump cancel tech and now 50% of the playerbase is playing Fediel. It's like there's a nationwide messaging apparatus that tells them what to play and they just stop whatever they're doing and start playing her.
>>573844429We should've gotten Sen instead.
>>573844527It's literally just your average retard tying "best dps charatcer" into google and going with the first result. We're in 2026 the vast majority of people that play videogames suck at playing videogames and don't even care to figure shit out themselves
Who are we hoping for the next round of characters?
is cascade better than quick cooldown
>>573844663Based
>>573845209My dick would explode if either her or cupitan made it in
>>573844837I want to use Beatrix but anons keep telling me she's shit tier anon....
>>573845209
>>573845209I want to play sarasa in a real game so badplease...other than that, yuel, magisa, gandalfneverevers because Too New are horus and noire
I can't tell if I'm doing something fundamentally wrong with bubs weird chain charge or if my timing just sucksIf it's the former that's a shit design
>>573846063block the red, dodge the yellow if i have that correct
>>573846063indeed.Yellow can't be blocked.Red can't be dodged
How long until they nerf Fediel?She's caught on like wildfire already and online is not fun
>>573846150>>573846185How intuitiveI'm also 80% sure sometimes it just misses regardless to add to the confusion
>>573842846
there are three supp dmg sigils berserker echo/spartan echo and supp dmg, right? nothing else i could get to get more supplementary?
is there a cap to damage cap? i vaguely understand that "DMG Cap" sigil maxes out at 65 but is there a limit for non-sigil sources? this game has the worst case of jrpg explanation drought >release a tangled mess of a system >refuses to elaborate >goes EOS
so any datamine gods wanna drop future content and the loot tables for each stage like last time?
>>573846063Like others said red block yellow dodge, but it is also shit design. The timing on the hits has an awkward timing so even if you have the right method to avoid the respective attack, you still have to learn that.
multiple failed Faa chaos runs, its time to try again later
So, is this shot normal?
>>573846992definitely not
>>573845209we have enough dykes in relink ALREADY jesus
>>573846863>this game has the worst case of jrpg explanation droughtwelcome to relinkthankfully we have autistic theorycrafters that should figure it out so we don't have toI'm still shocked how bad of a job they do explaining shit like this though, the tooltips should tell players everything they need to know about each stat if they want to know
>>573845209TyraDinosaur combat deserves more expression than what a turn based RPG can do
I can't tell if my fatebreaker sigil is working in score attack
>>573846918Just host a lobby god
>>573845209Alex so I can rotae phalanx by myself
>>573847052Lol, I keep getting glitches randomlyhttps://streamable.com/1bnwq3https://streamable.com/1qb87p
>>573846863noalso basic sigils like stun power/hp can give you damage cap with that one master traitsince orange traits like war elemental and the celestial traits can be rolled on summons, the meta is to have them on summons and fill your sigils with 4x stun power
not possible to s++ with randoms unless I get 2 Fediels
>>573847281Don't release the Europa Castle files...
Why the fuck am I getting leveled down in post-game Chaos++ quests? I haven't even hit mastery rank 50.
what's the fastest way to farm msp?
>>573845209Wait this bitch is also a carpet mucher?
>>573845209Just imagine him getting a robot install
>try infinite provenance>only got it to half healthis the dps check this wild or were we shit?
>>573847580She's not, she's mostly for (You), but she also hosts a Wendy's tulpa inside her body and really wants to kill the main villain of her story arc.
>>573847269give me a few minutes, ill make it next thread then
>>573845209More Harvin girls.
>>573847573you must SLIMEBLAST
>still face tanking with Bea and Fraux in Chaos++So is this game literally brain dead until Infinity?
Fediel nerf, dono...
>>573845209HARP USERS????
Does Siegfried actually like either of his personal sigils? I know he likes his Warpath.
>>573845209I want Sarasa but that will never happen because we already go two Eternals.After that I want Kumbhira for smashing people with pillar and zodiac representation but cygames are lazy fucks so we just get Anila again.
Fediel this Fediel that, can we talk about how broken Io is?
>>573848675She's not though. She has weaknesses. Fediel doesn't really have weaknesses, as does Charlotta
Fraux can fart in my mouth
>>573847773Not a tulpa
>>573845209any harp user like the other anon said or cow and make them oddball kind of character, plays very differently compared to the restfuck "no reason to be there or doesn't make any sense" bullshit i mean we suddenly get lucillus despite 0 buildup or even mentions of either him or sandalman
>>573848675What makes Io broken this patch? she was always good if you got good RNG on lv4 spam and as long as you dont miss since the explosion takes like 3 seconds for damage to come out. Are her masteries crazy?
>>573848894Until we see her kissing another girl, Fraux isn't a dyke.
Bros Zetas master traits seem underwhelming...
>>573847979not again
>>573849013Same shit she just does infinite damage, on par with Fediel if not better
>>573849035Or farting on another girl
>sure would like to beat infinity zegalith>need to get RNG luck of 3 Fediel that do 2-3 times the damage every other char in the gamelmao
>>573849035what a weird thing to say
Chaos++ Seofen & Tweyen fight is THE shitter filter holy fuck
>>573847979man i hoped i'd be able to get at least multiple ambrosias worth.I'm going to be here longer than infinity aren't i
>>573849401I think the brap stuff is weirder
>>573848068Stop getting carried
>>573849648Just farm summons/ascend mats in the later chaos++ quests.Sliming isn't nearly as good as pre ER.Comparatively
I'd like makura personally so that I can post bunny gifs
>>573849648mastery grind is very longat least defense order is the best songdon't forget your MSP bonus skills. doing it with pubs sucks because no one ever repeats, but it might be possible to host a dedicated slimeblasting lobby to get more than that. I know with just myself I was getting ~85k
>>573848675this is like complaining that great sword does a lot of damage
is there anyone NOT BASED in the society?
How do I grind mastery points....
>>573850053crying_siegfried.jpg
>>573850140Diaspora is a lousy chud with no personalityand no you cant say its because hes a robottheyre al controlled by people robots
Apparently skill damage cap from summons doesnt work on some skills, if anyone wants to test
>>573850140Nah.They're one of the best ensemble casts in the seriesEven the peripheral members are good
>>573850140they're pretty good but I remember the glasses girl kinda sucking
Eustace shotgun triggers supplementary on each shot btw
whats the ex skill on fully awakened terminus weapon, the same as ascend?
>>573850053if greatsword had infinite range
>>573850510It's a universal cap up. Makes the total cap up on a terminus 550%
>>573848835potato now has some issues where her best damage whiffs constantly against more mobile bosses because of its ass range combined with nerfed pizza cutterbut despite that she is still likely top 5 best chars even if she gives 0 fucks about noble order and only takes that mastery just to ditch warpath tax turning off even more braincells
what sigil combos do i look for bea? unlcoked conflux 3 and gonna start farming it
>>573847580why would you think that?
>>573847403Nyess
>>573851587very nice anon, build?I wonder if I should still run Gamma x2
Most of you aren't good enough to be playing off of full assist mode.
Man you guys weren't kidding about fediel
>>573851587>fedielhehehe>>573851681gamma is not good anymore outside of getting it from a faa summon or unless you want the 50k shield trait. using white sigils is better for dmg cap and you don't have enough sigil slots to fit faa sigils in after that
>summon has good sigil>terrible equip bonus>summon has good equip bonus>useless sigilI'll KILL YOU
>>573851681Smth like this. I also have alpha on a summon, ideally would be both gamma/alpha on summons, and I'm also missing celestial ventus and 1 supp dmg sigil. I'm kind of burnt out at the moment to farm though.
posting this right before the thread dies but where should i be improving this fellas
>>573852184Thanks
>>573852231Idk about regen and divergence
>>573852231swap out precise wrath for celestial ventus, you also want to fit in celestial lumen and probably celestial aqua as well. I'd swap out summons to be able to fit those in even if you don't have dmg cap on them
>>573850638It really doesn't, it actually has a big deadzone directly in front where you are fucking useless against multiple enemies
>>573849918This is solo with NPC's anon.
what quest drops damage cap+? i need like a billion for crafting
>set up roses>boss teleports away>
>>573853917>>573853917>>573853917>>573853917
>>573847727a bit of both, probablydragon is a tanky fuck
>>573852231Get his warpath, its great now
>>573848610>20% defense and stout heart for 10 seconds after landing a perfect execution>reduced cooldowns anytime he lands a normal finisher and perfect executionthey're both borderline mandatory imoyou COULD get away with dropping dominance if you're trying to do some no-hit meme nonsense, but it's really useful between how damn long siegfried's combo is and making committing to perfect executions much easier, since you can reliably armor through most hits during ityou can easily tell when a siegfried isn't using it if he gets tossed out of his perfect execution
>>573849384skill issue unironicallythe main issue with infinity runs right now is all the shitters have unlocked infinity so you have people entering it without being level 50
>>573835895when it slams onto the ground, try to perfect dodge itif you failed, look at his stance, when it shows a big shine, dodge you can to parry the second if you're good enough
>>573842846will she removes her cloth after 10%?
