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Main website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en
Wiki: https://gbf.wiki/Granblue_Fantasy:_Relink

>FAQ
https://rentry.org/RelinkFAQ

>Patch 2.0.2 details
https://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/

>Send your feedback here
https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedback

Old thread: >>573795952
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Meet your next DLC character
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If there is an anon with well geared Tweyen pls post 60s dummy.
I know she is not gonna be broken like some others but I want to see her average before I invest time.
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>your current main character
>your thoughts on their playstyle, strength as a character, and their master trees
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Help.
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>>573854510
charlotta
I love eating glue and winning
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>main character
charlotta
>playstyle
all quiet on the frontal lobe
>master trees
all dogshit except the supp damage one
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Tfw I want all of fraux's purple skills but there's no room in my sigil setup right now
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>>573854510
I want to use Bea but apparently she's trash tier from the past few threads discussions....
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>>573855082
Everyone is trash tier if you're not Fediel.
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how do you max out that dmg cap with basic sigils? most people here are talking about running three stun sigils but thats not enough to get 100% effect
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>>573854510
Fraux.
I love her so far but I feel she needs more hyper armor or built in stout heart for some skills with how they animation lock you.
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>>573855508
pretty sure you hit the cap with just your transcended weapon
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>>573855654
it's damage cap per basic sigil not flat damage
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>>573854510
playing potato until i have enough shit to minmax mag and fraux
almost 0 braincell required means i can focus trying to not get bitchslapped in infinity
>traits
noble order outside of dummy autism and comps that stunlock bosses somehow via para/slow abuse best to ignore mashing X and appreciate the nice value of free warpath sigil
parry trait is big work for okay reward, likely her worst trait unless you are a parry god
invincible trait gets overlooked by some because people think its just makes that skill better while forgetting that massive 30+20% sup damage buff after it ends. the idea is use invi during mechanics and do bullshit damage when mechanic ends
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>>573855786
He might be thinking of the one that boosts atk based on red sigils. Which I feel is only an option if there's nothing else to grab.
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Does anyone else aside from JK have a teamwide supp buff?
I want to flood my screen with numbers.
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>>573855508
i think most people are running 3x stun and 2x hp since you don't really need raw attack
you could maybe go for crit rate too if you have bad overmastery rolls
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>>573854510
Rosetta
Her Battlefield Support Tree is really strong in co-op but also a bit boring to play. Her Lost Love spam tree is suberb in cleave fights with adds, during the Seafon+Tweyen if a Link Time happens while both are in range of your roses you just nuke them into the ground with non-stop Love>Spiral nukes, feels amazing.

Shes in a good place right now
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>>573854510
>Vane
Mastery traits were huge for him, more than makes up for the sigil nerf. He may not deal tons of damage, but buffing the party is very nice and the beatdown tree is degenerate for being unkillable.
I love it.
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>>573856052
my brief stint trying actually playing her in ER was kind of unpleasant. roses not hitting bahamut most of the time and lucilius just teleporting away every time I set up roses convinced me to just keep her as an AI support
eustace is sick though I am looking forward to actually getting some mastery on him
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>>573854510
Zeta
Not a fan of the loop spam tree, the CD reduction is cool as you can spam Paralyze/Fireball and Hammer but the REAL gamer tree is the Parry focused one. It's so satisfying to pull off and builds a fuckton of Stun meter, especially with a stunner weapon.
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Infinity should be locked behind MR50 and I dunno why it isnt
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Where the fuck you get the Giga Hexa to pop up? I'm ML max, unlocked everything possible in the tree and nothing in the quest counter.
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Are most weapons viable towards the end of ER endgame? Like is me using stunner all the way viable, or should I be running Defender/Terminus/whatever?
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where the hell do you get rupees early game? game keeps saying "Raise your power!" but im always broke
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>>573856497
You wanna upgrade them all eventually.

Both Defender and Stunner aren't a bad pick as your learning the new fights. Should probably pick Defender on unga characters who are bound to get hit a lot.
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>>573856497
you will basically choose between ascension and terminus
terminus gives you about 15% more overall damage but forces you to have <200k hp
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>>573856468
>The final power tiers should be locked behind the literal last challenge of the game
You sound like the average jrpg dev who puts the super weapons at the end of an optional bonus dungeon when there's nothing left to use it on
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>>573854060
Hopefully not, there's plenty of better Harvins to choose from I'm sure.
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>25 Large Crystals per Skele auto-run
>5 min per run, max 10
>50 minutes for 250 Large Crystals

How many Crystals does it even take to level up one character's 6 weapons in total?
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wheres good r34 of granblue characters
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>>573856829
you sound like you don't know how to fucking read
how did you mess this up
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i wish there was a sigil disabling charging of attacks for dmg cap so i could just x-blast on eustace
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>>573854932
>master trees
>all dogshit except the supp damage one
Yeah you're definitely a retard anon. Noble Order means dropping Warpath for free and slotting in something else. Diamond Cutter gives you 250+ damage cap at max stacks permanently as long as you don't get hit. If anything the Invincible tree is the worst one and only for shitters who eat hits.
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Any IOgods itt? What's your endgame build (sigils, skills and mastery)?
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>>573856909
search yaia_(granblue_fantasy) on gelbooru
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>>573854510
>Siete
Became amazing with the ER update, his gauge is actually manageable now and stance switching is viable. His warpath is viable too.
Infinito Creare machine gun is silly.
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>>573854439
Just play the character you actually like anon

Tons of metafag build Ferry and Rackam on vanilla release only to drop them the second their exploits got nerfed. Same shit will happen with Fediel. So far almost every character can do around 500 million damage per minute in a simulated environment but Song is an instant casting RANGED character meaning in actual boss fights her uptime will always be higher. She's as safe a pick as you can have.
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I will still play fediel even after she gets nerfed because she is the best and the most fun
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>>573857216
This. Dummy dps is way less of a viable showing now simply due to things that can't be applied in it.
Vane, for example, can't even do one of his trees properly because he needs to block for stacks and all three of his trees are designed to pick up some ways into the fight.
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I forgot where you turn on autoplay in the menu
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Put her in relink please
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>>573857560
they're saving her for relink 2 :(
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Currently at proud difficulty and I feel like I've been fighting the same four fucking monsters reskinned for dozens of games at this point I think I might uninstall any second now this is hell.
If they were at least interesting or had something that made me want to fight them but they don't man.
I don't get the same feeling of "I feel like fighting x monster today" the way I do with monster hunter.
Does it get better? I don't mind grinding the same monsters over and over as long as its my choice but every mission so far was just fighting the same dragon, same golem, same eyeball and the same couple story bosses but different colours!!! on repeat...
The only thing motivating me right now is to see the numbers rise higher but I have no idea how to actually do that aside from "dmg cap up".
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she deserved at least a summon. how can cygays forget the poor man's dirt support?
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>>573856468
it's fucking insane that we're starting to see people queue up without being MR50
i can understand someone not being 5* because it's an absurd amount of MSP, but it's pretty damn stupid that I'm seeing MR30 mags and MR47 songs in my queues

>>573856829
>want people to enter content while at the appropriate level
>"what the fuck why?"
go back to slimejail and get the fuck out of my runs
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>>573857216
>>573857430
Thanks anons, I heard endgame has brutal dps checks and I was afraid of playing dead weight.
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wondering why they didnt make the roguelike coop.
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>eustace fate has you go through a stage
WHY did ER do none of this for its levels
especially the early "you gotta beat up ragnalia!" stuff. the autumn forest arena and japanland temple are fuckin beautiful I would have loved to go through a level and blow up retarded mooks while characters babble about the story
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What do you mean Fraux isn't a healer
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>>573857724
There's a couple new kino fights in the DLC which are more like raid fights. If you get to the Pyat-A or Bubs fight and it doesn't hype you up when they transition just drop the game already
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>>573857818
Isn't roguelike singleplayer by design?
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>>573854060
Funf is cute
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>>573854060
would
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anime aging...
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>>573858049
There is mp roguelikes in the market.
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Does Fraux have good DPS parsing?
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>>573858320
This is what happens to average people if they live in skyrealm
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Fediel or Rosetta?
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Yeah fuck this character

I just wanna play the game bro
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Fraux needs to kick me in the face every time I touch or change her shoes
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I told you niggas to kick niggeriels on sight, I TOLD YOU
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>>573858664
Is that before or after the villagers begin raping all of the girls they come across?
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>>573858819
>>573858961
The Ferry treatment can't come soon enough for this bitch and her degenerate-ass players that actively don't want to actually play the game.
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>>573857045
>Noble Order means dropping Warpath for free and slotting in something else
Yeah you're definitely a retard anon.
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>>573856829
Its the exact last challenge in the game. Its the culmination of your entire grind
at the very least finish the grind
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>watching the Frau unlock scene
>The Devil card is talking
anyone else notice that these tarot cards look like iphones? I can't help but laugh at the thought of getting facetime'd by the devil
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>failed bubz with 1% left
i'm going to start instantly leaving infinity lobbies if i see someone isn't level 50
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Beamans what skills do you use?
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Fediel guy... don't look...
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Is the new one better for Seofon?
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Do you still have to save scum for double character sigils?
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>see fed spirit bomb ability
>wow I want to play this character, I hope she's good
>will probably be nerfed into the ground
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>>573859842
Yes and it's worse than before because the pool is extremely diluted
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>>573859869
At least they made sure its pretty quick to farm so you can at least have a taste.
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>>573859805
Crit's irrelevant now, get all the dmg caps with stun.
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>>573859735
Don't, she's low tier. You should switch.
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>>573858819
is that a DPS meter? where do you get it?
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>>573860097
>Tier
You cannot fathom how much of a fuck I don't give, if it's fun I'll play it
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>everyone says leyline is the best Io path
>meanwhile every leyline Io i've seen online eats dirt as the boss nukes em down in their precious dmg zone
Sorry, I'll stick to my mobile skill spam.
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does maglielle have good damage? she seemed to be useful in parties.
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>>573859735
I you don't play Fediel you're getting kicked from our /vg/ parties
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Is Ferry saved?
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Gran uptime on some bosses feels really bad :(
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>>573857879
It's not that some of the fights didn't hype me up (mostly just Bahamut ones tho) but the basic/typical fights are beyond slop. There's no thread, I can revive infinitely (not that I'd need to) and the only time I don't get all three side objectives is if I kill the monster too fast.
I like the game and want to see what the endgame brings I just want the boss and enemy variety to increase.
How many engaging fights that I can pick from can I expect by the endgame? I doubt it will be anywhere close to mh where I can pick out of 40 monsters that I could have fun facing but I pray there's at least like 12 or something. Right?
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>oh, an add fight? for a main antagonist thats really lame
>Wait those are the GM weapons-
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>>573859869
sphere of reversal won't be nerfed, it's not very good
the 5-finishers thing and the miasma claws thing probably get their overtuned damage kneecapped and that's fine. she'll still be extremely fun to play
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I realize the whole appeal of the game is to bring in characters people have seen and enjoyed for years but I'd kill for a little idk monster hunter style create a character or whatever. I really like how the game looks and plays of which I'm told, is retarded, because its like other action gacha games apparently.
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>>573859735
Sword of Embrasque
Thunderbird
Riding Free
Star Chaser
Playing Insight though, so want quick CD skills to spam to beamode.
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>>573857163
at what master level does he come together?
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>>573859735
Devour Master Trait
Sigils:
Steel Nerves
Garrison
Berserk Echo
Spartan
Celestial Lumen
War Elemental
Fatebreaker
Stun Power
Nimble Onslaught
Character Sign(cool down)
Supp Damage
Guts/Potion Hoarder/Greater Aegis

Skills: Riding Free, Thunder Bird, Embrasque, Hearts on Fire
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why are there only angelhomo summons
where are the hot girl summons
let me summon mandrake
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>>573856587
Do some side missions if you need to. That's it, really.
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What actually makes fediel so strong? is her mastery overtuned ? or does the air dodging or whatever really make a difference?
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>>573860634
be real, the average mh title has like at most around 10 fights worth doing, everything else is just shitmons. milds is at like the 4 apexes, gore, mizu, lagi and arkveld. maybe omega if you are fine with getting powercrept gear and definitely not gog which is one of the shittiest fights mainline has ever shat out. even g/master rank titles have like maybe another 10 more, no fucking shot a mainline title has 40 monsters worth a shit
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>>573861429
YGGY WHERE
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>>573861864
her balls are bugged damage wise and you can chain a million of them
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>>573859181
ferry didn't even do any real damage before she got nerfed, the only thing she was good for was sba gen
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>>573861953
Just because Wilds was kind of mid doesnt mean that the previous titles are suddenly dogshit
Most of Rise's roster is fun to fight even at high anomaly ranks, they all have proper flair as well
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>>573861953
40 rathians.
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>>573862197
it was like that in world too
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>>573861864
the combo finisher mastery trait is overtuned as hell
the claw+miasma mastery trait is somewhat overtuned
that's about it. she also brings a bunch of strong defense downs and has a partywide attack up buff that's solid, and she's ranged so she's pretty safe, but those are also fine things for characters to do
she's just kind of messed up in the math department which is the easiest thing to fix
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some of these summons seem to be exclusive to infinity clears
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>>573862304
pretty much all of worlds fights are enjoyable save for the one fight
and frankly it lasts so little time that i think the sluggisness is overblown
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>>573862304
While I can agree that there were a lot of monsters I wasn't particulary passionate about in World, I didn't mind fighting nearly all of them.
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beartrix!
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>>573862432
>>573862065
so she's definitely going to get nerfed damn
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>>573862462
excuse me if i can't be fucked with all the shitmons that aren't at elders or jho or exploding the hundredth rathalos or anjanath in 2 minutes
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are these mats in chaos+ somewhere?
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>>573862671
unless they do something stupid, only her numbers will be touched, which is good
she'd be fun as hell to play even if her damage was mediocre
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>>573862742
you can press square and on them and they tell you where they drop bwo
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>>573862742
The quakadiles.
You can select materials in list to get the game telling you on which quest you can get them.
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wait so do i really need to queue mm to finish story? you cant finish it solo?
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>>573862707
Not every fight is meant to be the final boss its a game about progression
Granblue just does it on a bigger scale because its a different genre
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I actually have no idea how to trigger ancension link, do I need to summon anything before the full chain?
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I don't know which siegfried style is good for me
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>>573859196
nta but considering how insanely restrictive current sigil meta right now to the point you don't see people slotting max quick cd/uplift/sup damage before counting summons anymore. free warpath alone is good enough to justify noble order tier 3
the only issue is a single hit in infinity removes noble order too like parry trait buff because any bosses sneezes at you for more than 100k damage without konnig, but if you bring that skill you run into 4 slot syndrome ala pokemon kek
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>>573862993
they all seem terrible
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>>573862832
Where'd you get that idea?
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Please give her alternate SBA where she can diver bomb human enemies
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>>573862993
>>573863034
powered by pain is fun because his parry is fun
you also get to carry your teammates and/or be punished for every mistake they make if you're playing online. I have not done that at all outside of trying to get pubs to slimeblast, but it's all just people clearing the stage for story progress. I imagine it sucks for pubs but is fun with friends
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https://x.com/chee_maron/status/2076422473386783173
nee-chang pls marry me again and again
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>>573857560
Danua makes me sad because I like her aesthetic but all her versions barely built on her character imo
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>>573861953
fuck milds, im a risebreaker all the way
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About Bea, how are you meant to manage delta clock? I'm not sure if this is a dumb ass question, it probably is, but all the more question to ask it. Green, I can understand you may find yourself in situation where you don't want to be on red, but that's about as far as my understanding goes
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reminder to equip path to mastery sigils/summons if you're slimeblasting bros
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>>573863757
rise sucked. sunbreak was fuckin sick though I love sunbreak. way in the hell better than wilds
primal malzeno is the coolest monster. they finally dethroned gore magala who finally dethroned nargacuga
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>>573862793
>>573862813
it tells me currently unknown so i'm guessing it's chaos+ quakadiles
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Should I bother farming for Stout Heart summon or does having it on AI party still make em retarded
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>>573862072
Yeah that's the point. She got put down for less. The Fediel trick shits out tons of damage AND SBA. She is 100% getting taken out back and shot like Ol' Yeller.
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this bitch is 8 feet tall?
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>>573864118
not sure what are you talking about, i only see 2 f**t on the image
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>>573862072
Didn't she used to have insane stun value as well?
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>>573864056
>>573862072
well they should do it soon before too many people invest a few dozen hours into maxing her out
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>>573864118
Gallanza is 8ft, she is 6.8ft
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Ta su ke te ku da sa i
>>573855907
>>573854510
Io!
I'm coming around to essence the more I play it.
I like the decision making between Fire/Ice and Ice/Lightning and dodge holding SG charge between skills is a fun skill to learn.
I saw a lunatic going all in on the 10% self dot leyline and staying at 1 health the entire game with Nyx in infinite world earlier.
Might be fun to try later.
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Vane is just a shittier Charlotta with way lower damage and an even more braindead playstyle.
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>>573864118
please don't call my beautiful relink wife a bitch
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>>573864118
She's a tall draph because she didn't get the memo that draphs are generally small so she's supposed to look a bit alien to the rest of the world
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>>573864314
Don't care, buddy.
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>>573859869
Why the fuck do so many retards call it the spirit bomb when it's literally Frieza's signature move, right down to holding it up with one finger?
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>>573864118
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>>573863004
You understand anon, you know better than these other potato players.
>but if you get hit--
Yeah that's the thing. Just don't get hit. There's shit that pierces Invincibility in the highest tier fights anyway.
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posted in the wrong thread but is relink another timeline? miach like got written out of fediel's story and fraux never met us but rios still exists so Idk all the society moon stuff sounds like it happened too
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>>573864636
Gimme a short brown girl gods damnit
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>>573862458
Found that as a drop in one of the hubs.
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>>573864254
Unforunately Japs are lazy and it will take them a month to do it at the earliest. Unlike chinks who take these things away within the week in their own games.
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>>573864628
Believe it or not, most people don't keep up with DB anymore, for them it stops at "oh that big ball of energy" and that's fair enough.
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>>573864738
relink is made to be a soft introduction to non-gacha players so everyone they add only gives an abridged version of their actual stories

miach was never important to fediel's story aside from them gluing her to him afterwards in that dragon war event
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>>573864775
relink universe almieda might not be a vasfucker
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>go into an online quest after auto farming a bunch
>control is weird and not listening tome
>Assist mode was still on
>Assist mode works in multiplayer
what incentive is there for me to push my own buttons
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>>573865179
it does zdps
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>>573865254
>enter sieg
Or is his AI still less damage than a human?
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>>573865179
the incentive is fun
you bought a video game to have fun with it, right?
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>>573864738
Pretty much, gacha MSQ is the main timelime, all other spin off titles are alternate timelines.
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Seems to be pretty well received all things considered. You guys think they'll try a Relink 2 or branch out more into this weird pseudo mmo-lite thing?
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Do you need to clear every Defy Infinity bosses for picrel to appear?
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>>573864738
Yes, it's another timeline.
It has similarities but parts of it are literally not possible to fit into the real Grub.
Miach was deleted and Rios was not, nothing more nothing less. Maybe popularity? I don't know.
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do eustace/beatrix's terminus weapons drop from bahamut or do I have to use ultimate memories on crafting them?
eustace is pretty fun
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>>573865703
does this mean no more dlc or expansion
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>>573865869
did you know that before this modern era of live service bullshit, games used to have ending and credit sequences?
and those games even went on to get more stuff added to them afterwards sometimes
it doesn't mean anything. it means you cleared the story content
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>>573865058
Devs forgot about her.
They forgot about draphs in general and with new races it's gonna get worse.
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Is it worth to play Granblue Fantasy while Relink autos for me in the background
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>>573865846
You can do both.
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>>573865808
rios isn’t popular
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>>573865585
If they made an actual hub MMO like PSO2 or Dragon Nest I would fucking CUM
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>>573865846
Bahamaut still drops them raw still but also the pity tokens you can use to craft any you want. Chaos++ will drop them as well.
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>Zegagrande is supposed to a completely different culture with a different history
>Plains Island, Water Island, Desert Island, Volcano Island, Ice Island
doesnt seem too different to me
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>>573865703
yeah since it appears after the final one, but it reappears every time you reclear it
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>>573866156
ARQUIVO!
EDITAR!

F E R R A M E N T A S
AYAYAYAYIII
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>>573866060
They will shoehorned her in just like Mari, cygames excec love their faggots
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why is this a surprisingly good little action game when its made by a GIGANTIC gacha company
like i get fuck making other types of games when you have a license to print money via paypigs, but its actually pretty fun.
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>>573866358
cygames, for all their bullshit, is honestly pretty based and just loves their IPs a whole lot
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>>573866358
it was originally made by platinum games but they shat the bed really hard and cygames had to pick up the pieces themselves
and if nothing else, they're a pretty good company at crafting addictive gameplay loops
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I hope I finish everything before the cursed Arcarum farm event in GBF
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>>573866571
I hope they import some characters from world flipper, till now they only import Shingeki no Bahamut characters
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is there a (breasts) tier list yet
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WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE PEOPLE UNDER LEVEL 50 IN ZEGALITH
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>>573866358
they started the gacha so they can make a game like bootleg final fantasy
If you actually believe this
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>>573866904
Fediel > Narmaya > Beatrix > Zeta > Katalina > Ferry > Charlotta = Maglielle
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>>573857056
that one is 6sai
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>>573865058
I remember when her summer alt got released and I was so fucking happy
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>>573867070
you missed some
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>>573867070
Oi
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Are there new BGM?
I played the gacha but there's alot of BGM I never heard, although some of them sound like BGM from versus, while some of them sound like album exclusive from Stella Magna
I don't remember the new dragon theme too
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>>573867852
They imported a lot from versus, and a few raids use some of the newer songs from the gacha, like the tier 3 magna themes and for you.
Everything else sounds like normal relink music, which songs in particular are you talking about.
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>>573867852
Most of it is either Stella Magna tracks or stuff thats in the gacha already
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>>573868032
I know the magna 3 theme yes
>which song
Dragon's Circle -Fire and Wind- and Dragon's Circle -Water and Earth- but with rock remix? which play during both 2 dragon fights
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>>573866739
What about Dragalia...
Lost...
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>>573867605
Fraux > Fwehrry
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>>573867070
You forgot Djeeta and Lyria!
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>>573868249
those are the versus versions of those themes, wilnas' and galleon's themes
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>>573868294
they'll add mym
gran will have a threesome with mym and fediel
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>Lilith could basically get everything she needs for herself and piggybacking Lyria, but chooses to let her minons get it because idk lol
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https://x.com/peer821/status/2076246181706162610
i didnt know modding was a thing here, i might have to change my plans with this game
a shame they are some sort of pseudo safety shorts ( i dont remember how her og sprite looked like btw)
>>573867070
what about hips
also did i dream about it or wasnt sheep supposed to be added to relink too
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>>573863184
Cant wait for the Fediel mods
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>>573868294
>co-owned with Nintendo
Lol, lmao even
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>>573868447
Astrals are unironically that lazy and consider that kind of work beneath them.
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this game visually is very pretty in a way that genshin isn't idk how to describe it.
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>>573868383
I see, no wonder there isn't a remix of Dragon's Circle -Light and Dark-
What about the first part of Chaos++ Luci?
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Oh. You guys weren't kidding about the Platinum Games thing huh? What the FUCK happened there jesus christ. I mean what even happened there? Automata was almost 10 years ago and then just.. back to back string of medicore games or something? I see a bunch of CEO's abandoned ship the past 2 - 3 years.
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>>573868537
it's this thing called artstyle that chinese games will never have
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>>573868765
Babylon's Fall pretty much killed them as far as I know.
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Fediel boob jumpscare when she fires off her SBA in the middle of combat
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>>573868537
it's the art direction. Genshin is very generic because it's intentionally copying anime aesthetics with a chinese bent to get a teensy bit of that Japanese soft power. Granblue isn't trying that, by the time relink was being developed most of the art was done by Akihiko Yoshida, the main artist behind Final Fantasy Tactics (And Brown Dust 2 !!) so Relink tries to bring that to a 3D environment
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>The eternals
>Pyet-A
>Proto Baha
>And some fuck-ass red rock golem
Doing the last set of quests to power for infinity and I just found it funny that of all the rock golem gives higher level mats than the primals and the goddamn dragon gauntlet
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>>573868294
Give me Berserker
God I miss that game so much
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4inMF1N1hX8

Can Fraux only reach 500 mil with link abuse? Looks like she has best summons in slot too?
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am I missing something about eustace's lightning warrior trait? I've never seen any indication that a mark is applied or gotten 40% of the cooldown chopped off of either skill
is there something you have to do besides just channel heaven comes down on something for its duration and then the finisher hits?
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>>573866358
Cygames were founded by a bunch of disgruntled Square Enix devs. Uma shits out money for them and they use that to fund their actual passion projects.

Granblue Versus at times barely had 200 active players and they still made a sequal and release new DLC for it simply because one of their heads liked it. You should try Versus Rising it's a great introduction to fighting games, Beelzebubs entire moveset is based on his Versus one.
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>>573868586
also his versus theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvUmBeAxnEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hfp8FxuMIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmSeKatkfkQ
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>>573868853
This costume for Djeeta pls
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>>573868537
I like that in Relink the characters have details baked into their textures that gives them a hand drawn feeling.
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>boss freezes in place at 1 second left when full bursting at the last second
this is like the third bug i've seen with these
i'm guessing it was a connection thing since it died after one guy left
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>>573869071
Thanks anon
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>>573869071
Once a week I keep feeling like I should get Galleon and play Rising, then I remember i suck at fightans and decide not to.
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>>573869220
it's fine bro we're all bad
come on down to Japan Platform Lobby 01 and have a good time with your bros
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>>573868537
They copied good things from japanese IP and somehow made them worse in execution. Like, grub copied and referenced many things from other IPs but you will never see anyone mocking them
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>>573868853
>Akihiko Yoshida
He's getting pretty old at this point. I can only hope people continue to replicate that sort of approach after he inevitably retires. Jesus christ I am getting old.
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I really like playing Io but shes kinda difficult when it comes to multi enemy encounters, hope that gets easier
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>>573868461
im glad that they exist so i can get rid of the safety shorts
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>>573869381
ios extremely weak, eatable and breedable pink backdoor
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>>573869220
we also play the fightan here if you want to mash buttons sometimes
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>>573869510
>pink
yknow shes black right
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>>573869340
I still mock grub for belial
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>>573863942
prim malzeno is counterbalanced by amatsu and violet mizutsune being complete shitshows
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>>573869653
Kek, fair enough.
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>>573869727
im not exactly sure why Violet Mizu exists since its the exact same as soulseer
but Wilds retconned soulseer into a super saiyan transformation so i guess they were thinking about that
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>>573869727
but they're also counterbalanced by rocket dragon and espenis and it all works out to be a great game in the end in spite of a couple dogshit fights
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>>573869076
I like when Djeeta didn't just look like an utter slut
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>>573869727
Fuck you I liked the Amatsu fight
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Where the FUCK is the man in red
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Is Sierokarte like, antisocial or some shit?
nothing they ever say sounds genuine
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>>573869727
I was expecting Amatsu to be some Fatalis-tier final boss with its own arena and shit and instead it was just retarded aoe spam nonsense but I only fought it like once or twice and was so thoroughly disappointed I never did it again
I did like sunbreak a lot though
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Any new farm quests for crystal in Ragnarok, or am I still stuck with those fucking griffins?
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Pirated the game, are there any dlc bonuses I should avoid? stuff thatd break the game balance i mean
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>>573870070
She's a merchant who have her own Island and theme park. You know who else have their own island and theme park?
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>building a new character for endgame
>just doing quests to transcend weapons and slowgrind mastery because I don't wanna fuckin slimeblast another character right now
>still haven't ougi'd 3 times because shit dies to my bots
>my honors are always an entire digit down
>check my damage vs caps
>>>>>420%
eustasu...
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>>573870025
Conflux, Dexterity Way, rare(?) chance to spawn in the "track the ball" minigame.
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>>573870256
Chaos++ survival fight with the eyeballs and skeletons
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>>573870070
she loves puns that's her schtick aside from being the richest person in the world
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>>573870374
Thanks!
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>>573869164
It means you're playing with a cheater
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>going through chaos+
>even with absolutely no atk or dmg-increasing sigils i am 200% over my damage cap
>despite being at max damage cap lv, fatebreaker, several summons that increase normal damage cap from 20-50%, and a bunch of collection masteries to increase it even more
the fuck
maybe that guy who puts on flight or fight had a point
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>>573870717
you really don't start seeing progress in breaking that cap until you start getting all the weapons uncapped and building masteries that raise cap massively.
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I think id might be broken bros
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Meet your next DLC character
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Why option to abandon but not to retry
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The Japanese have spoken
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Is The World's theme the old New World Order song?
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Do I really have to charge all the grade II shots for eustace? I feel like i just want to charge the last grade III, quick reload and get the party started as soon as possible. I dont have eustace fully built to really test the damage.
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Fediel suck the fun out of the game it's nuts
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>>573871183
>percy is strong
Im surprised. I havent unlocked chaos++ yet but everyone seems to be complaining about boss moving a lot for characters like zeta so I thought percival would get fucked just as hard.
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>>573868853
>(And Brown Dust 2 !!)
there's no fucking way, source for this?
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>>573871187
Yes for both phase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk0nsIDMoCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDEgNcM40J0
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>>573871183
>charlotta
>overtuned
they gutted her
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Fediel sucks the fun out of my nuts.
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>>573871183
>tier called strong damage or support but not both
>tier above is mostly pure DPS characters
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>>573871183
Sieg's main issue is that his finisher is too slow, the game has too many mobile bosses. It's the same issue with his masteries. They want you to do all these perfect inputs which are easy as fuck but the fucking NIGGER bosses and tiny enemies just fucking zipitty zoom everywhere and you're just slowly swinging into the air. He needs an attack speed buff, at least for his finisher, or the finisher should have giga tracking so it can land on what he targets even if it's far away.

He has two great gap closers but then his actual combo is so static all the time. He's still my main and I have fun using him but that shit can get annoying, I'm just rushing a monster and then when I start my combo it just goes OOPS, I'M GONNA RUN AWAY TO THE OTHER SIDE NOW NIGGA HAW HAW HAW FUCK YOU SIGGER START THE COMBO AGAIN.
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>>573871369
Most Zeta players are massive retards who just wanna spam their stupid jumpies. She has two new skill trees, both dedicated to parrying which are very strong but take some practice and skill to really work.
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>>573868765
Babylon flopping hard really fucked them and its so bad that even kamiya left a year later (2023)
When majority of the people behind their better games left platinum kind of become a different game dev so the quality of their later stuff changes
Dunno what made that game flopped so hard, i remember reading news about it then dead silence until years later where they sponsored bunch of jp streamers and vtoobas but still not enough to make steamdb shows more than 100 players
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do these crit damage and skill damage mastery nodes apply after the damage cap, or are they shit like the sigils?
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>>573871568
true
she's too perfect. optimizes the challenge out of masturbation. there's no reason to even look anywhere else because she just does it the best. other characters don't even do anything
100% parses every time
fuckin bullshit
they'll never nerf her
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>>573868461
Well, after enabling adult content and looking at the top rated mods, I see why there are so many nara players running around.
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The game isn't fun with all these Fediel niggers in co-op
I'd rather leave than waste my time on an easy run
Like, what's the fun? There's no challenge. You might as well just play solo and use Cheat Engine to one-shot everything
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>endless ragnarok
>has an end
?
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>>573871626
His finisher does seem to have pretty decent range on it, it hits from a decent ways away in my experience
I've just learned to consider hitting the finisher to be icing on the cake, he does great damage even if you aren't hitting it every combo at the very least, and lunge is just such a nice gap closer that it feels sucky to switch to other characters and lose it
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the reality of the game is i just want more of this
whatever you want to call this i just want more of it, like shit tons more.

and on one hand like the whole infinite damage cap and number go up grinding is the appeal, but on the other hand, id maybe see a bit more revamping for some characters, the game is just so god damn fun.
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>>573871183
No way Bea is that high. This tier list is shit
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>>573871626
siegfried has so many problems and the ironic thing is he'd only need one or two changes to solve all of them
>make his damn perfect combo not take 8 years to finish, why the fuck is the character with a perfect combo mechanic the one with the longest combo string?
>going with the above; make his two perfect execution focused trees not be overly anal about what counts as "normal attacking", whether it's only removing 1 stack instead of the whole buff or making it so that it actually counts normal attacks instead of dodges and cancels if you don't dodge at the exact right time. alternatively make it so you don't need as many stacks, 5-7 full combos is fucking ridiculous when each combo takes a solid 8 seconds if you're trying to land hits and not doing dodge cancel cheese
>make his perfect execution have extreme tracking so that you aren't fucked over when you'd need the distance from lunge because the boss moved away
>make his perfect execution not be 90% of his damage so he isn't fucked over by phase transitions/boss movement/etc
>make his perfect execution an i-frame so that you can at least commit to it instead of needing to build defenses to armor your way through attacks while using it as a bonus, this would also make him significantly more viable in lucilius because the falling sky balls applying max hp down EXPLICITLY fucks over siegfried and almost nobody else
>reduce his normal combo length and make his skills function with the perfect timing system, similar to how yoda/sandy have timed skills
>make his perfect combo system useful with air combos, with a slightly weaker perfect execution if the combo length is a concern
pick any of the one or two above and he'd genuinely have twice as many people maining him
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Well uh

I finally got a group of 3 fediels. That lived up to the hype.

I didnt even get to learn what Bahamut versa does on this difficulty lmao
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>>573872503
yeah it's why I'm fine with ER being kind of lackluster as a "g rank" expansion on the base game. the game itself is just great to play
as much as I'd rather have had stages and a story to go through like the base game, I'm glad just to have more relink to play
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why do cag's combo finishers do 25% more damage if you dodge cancel them?
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Gallanzia and Maglielle are so fucking funny
"ughhh please dont kill me" like at what point did you think Grans goofy ass was gonna kill you
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cygays better nerf fediel asap
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I do max DPS

I'm a pumper Chad I told my retail World of Warcraft guild to play the game now, we are all rolling Fediel and are gonna parse orange 99%'s while you shitters will sit in Chaos+ crying. We're just that good.
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Devs hinted it's still possible for more content in the future if not an entire sequel.
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>>573872503
that was how i felt about base relink
the game not having very much in the way of actual post-launch content hurt a lot - obviously luci was cool and all, but he was basically the only thing we got
i'd actually kill for endless ragnarok to get the live service treatment and get years of support and it's basically the only game i'd ever say that for
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Guys

Lucilius is hard

:(
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isnt flight or fight alot stronger now?
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>>573872742
Based PVMPER chad look at my deeps bro BIG DICK DAMAGE happening here FUCK YEAH BRO
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>>573869647
no she's just tanned from growing up on the lava island
she's white washed in the grand blues gag comic
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>>573872503
If this game was more closer to some psudo-lite mmo with a lobby and other shit, I'd probably paypig for it. People want a 4 man RPG with big booty bosses and lots of customizable that *isnt* monster hunter. I don't know what's so hard to understand about it really.
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Lucilius >> POWER GAP > za warudo > beelz >>> POWER GAP > versa

The sephiroth wannabes still got it, dude will always be the games superboss
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>>573871183
Show your source bitch
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>>573873076
he's so much less cool than bubs is though
bubs is THE coolest boss. hexa and za warudo are also pretty cool
lucilius is gay and lame even if his fight is fun
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why isn't there a chaos angra mainyu at all that boss was cool
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>>573873076
Luci is a pushover and Bubs is a much cooler and harder fight. Both lose to The World.
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>>573871183
This reek of parsing on the training dummy
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>>573873230
That boss was pretty gimmicky bro

He didn't even really have a kit you just hopped in a portal and beat him up
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>>573873295
No way, because Vane would not be that high.
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>>573871183
>the Japanese
Bro I made this tier list day 1 for memes, the JP tier list is the one with the numbers all over it

This is the updated american tier list to reflect characters who turned out to be shit like sandolphon and Lancelot
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>>573873496
Oh this isnt the latest, rosetta should be up and narmay/katalina should be down, oh well
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can we get a new ai tier list
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>he thinks there will be new characters
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I decided to fact check the anon above and only found this Game8 JP tier list.
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>>573873625
Cag/seig/rosetta is all you need for AI

Dont fall for Yoda memes the AI is fucking horrible at him
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>>573873596
Bea should be bottom tier too.
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>>573873627
yeah bro yeah YEAH bro DSG bro yeah this DSG fedielslopping game's dead bro DEAD DSG SBAsloppa gimmicktroon DSGslopping dead game nerf cag yeah YEAH
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>>573873647
This has to be from vanilla relink because zeta AI is horrible now
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>>573873647
>1.3
This is supposed to be gran's blue fantasy
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>>573870717
FoF is a dmg dealt debuff now. They murdered it.
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>>573873731
what even triggered this response
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>>573873678
rosetta AI does the right combo for her mastery?
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I wanted to start Infinity but how do you increase more of your combat power? I'm already M50 and have the necessary sigils equipped.
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>>573873647
What makes eustace and fraux good as AI?
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>>573872570
Dude yes, the luci orbs shit is so goddamn annoying. But yeah I would absolutely take any of those changes for sure.
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>>573873678
I've been using Eugen wit his poison grenades that give the -15% defense debuff, I heard it was OP. I'm a total newb, what other characters and how high can you stack? If it's a good debuff you probably want AI characters doing it.
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>>573873884
slimeblast psychosis
I'm bored as FUCK and need to lash out
I am sorry
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>>573874007
Why is Io so upset?
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>>573873912
She does unless someone falls below 40% HP, then she goes short on the combo to swap to Regen. During Boss spergout she'll try to go DEF buff I think
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>>573874291
she thought we wouldnt have to worry about DMG cap anymore lmao
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>Levelling Bea's shit
>Need a white dragon for one of her weapon
>Think it's gonna go horrible
>Actually go surprisingly well
Maybe I'm starting to grasp the monkey
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>>573874290
take a break bro...
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>story called Relink
>is about the link between Danchou and Lyria
>
>couldnt bother to pay 2 voice actors for a whole scripts worth of dialouge
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Some anon a few threads was saying how broken Io was and he was right lmao.
She almost does damage on par with Fediel in most fights if not slightly less. Everyone thinks flight of fight is garbage now since its a flat 50% damage off everything you cant add more damage skills to nulify it as far as i can tell but the reason its so busted on Io is flowery seven and stargaze have about a 7 second cast with 30 quick charge. So if you perfect dodge + 30 nimble onsault you get 6 seconds of invul time and by the time you finish casting the 6 second damage down is gone. So you basically can full cast SG4 everytime you dodge with 0 worry its honestly insane. Nimble also gives you a ton of SBA and Cooldown to spam flower seven which is probably the strongest nuke in the game.
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>>573873678
I will trust you and use Rosetta, currently I have Cag, Charlotta and Zeta, which one should I replace with Rosetta?
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>>573853917
UPDATE THE FAQ IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE OP YOU FUCKING MORON
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>>573874532
Delete your post. Don't repost this. Keep it hush-hush before all the Fediel metafags all hop onto our girl
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Chaos++/Infinity lobby request anything

8ANT WTJ7 8CR5 XDT0
pass: vidya

2/4
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>Overmasteries
I had forgotten this aids
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https://youtu.be/QTUsLE7VT2Y?t=135
Who found themselves singing along?
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is there a character that can just go full support mode ?
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>>573874532
>flower seven which is probably the strongest nuke in the game.
percy and gallanza do like 110m and 170m
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I unlocked weapon trannyscendance, am I supposed to ditch my Terminus a trannyscended starter weapon now? Or at what level?
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>>573874309
I'll go turn on full assist as her and watch what she does before investing, if she does do the combo D properly then I'll commit
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>>573874779
3/4
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thoughts?
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is transmarvel making sigils based on who i have unlocked? im not getting shite for bea
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>>573875141
nope, you're just unlucky.
i have a ton of sigils for characters i haven't recruited.
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>>573874852
iirc it only becomes better than a fully upgraded terminus at level 3.
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>>573874851
uhm ackshually, percy deals 90m with his nuke on dummy if we are talking realistic sigils (no terra/aqua/ventus)
I found terra/aqua/ventus to be not worth using in infinity, it's better to stack more defense/self healing/utils
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The endless positivity from grub characters is a lot more tolerable in a 60 dollar game as opposed to the most predatory p2w bullshit gacha ever
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>>573875136
tl;dr
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>>573875136
Its a good guide
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>>573872915
The debuff won't impact you as much since you actually have to trigger it now but now the debuff is a modifier that screws over your damage regardless of how high you can pump it up
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GOD EVERY TWEYEN CHOKES SO HARD VS LUCILIUS

ITS ALWAYS HER
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>DAMAGE DAMAGE DAMAGE MAX DAMAGE GOTTA DO THE HIGHEST NUMBER LOOK AT MEEEEEE

How about you first learn to press your fucking BLOCK button before committing to some 180K HP 1 hit KO build you fucking NIGGER????
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Is Chaos++ just Fediel fest?
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>>573874020
Fraux seems to have very consistent damage output that the AI can utilize pretty well, she just pumps out skills like nothing
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>>573875474
Usually half my party is Fediels
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>>573875474
If you match with all regions you'll find lots of asian fediels. I don't see her that often, fraux is still the queen
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>>573875136
as someone who autismed the stun+hp shit instead of just seeing the two passives. Each Sigil gives 1.5% damage for a full capped character. Which is probably really good but you lose so much utility using HP/More stun than you need. Up to you if you want to take damage over comfort skills
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>>573875618
people should sack the HP sigils and use defense/support primary for the 10k HP+6% defense per sigil
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>different summons have different caps for equip bonuses
>Behemoth can only get a max of 50% DMG Cap Up while Rolan, for example, can get up to 100%
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>>573874532
Yeah but she's boring to play
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This is what I got on Bea. I know it's not the best but it's what I got on hand, any thoughts on thing I should swap around?
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i have infinity bosses unlocked can i just join some random in hopes of them carrying my ass? i want the achievement
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>>573875417
I say this but without the racism.
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>>573875737
You should get your Bea to sub 200k HP so you don't have to worry about that when you transcend your terminus
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yknow for a monster hunter game, they really chafe against you upgrading in low rank, not only making it expensive but almost entirely unnecessary
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>>573875417
>bro just use your defender weapon and fail dps check
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So like, should I just be fusing every good sigil I see with other good sigil I see?
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im feeling STRONG
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>>573875870
Focus on something like this >>573875136
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Quests to Farm Summons with Good Sigils

Berserker Echo:
Four Dragons of the Apocalypse
On the Threshold of Finality (Lucilius)
A Prayer for Black Wings' Demise (Lucilius) (Needs confirmation)

Spartan Echo:
All-Consuming Darkness (Beelzebub)
Defy the Threshold of Chaos (Beelzebub)
Let Chaos Reign (Woelord Blackwyrm)

Stout Heart:
Supernatural Appetite for Meat (Ennugi)
Four Dragons of the Apocalypse
On the Threshold of Destruction (Versa)

War Elementalist:
New World Order (The World)
On the Threshold of the World (The World)
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>>573875136
i think this is going to get a bunch of people killed
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>>573875908
Local man hits 800% damage overcapped
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Fucked up how they didn't make wind, water nor dirt characters that I want to play.
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>>573871019
I want to sex my daughter and her mother.
Doubt either will be playable until phoenix actually does something though
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gonna be real bros, I have no idea how to get Sieg parry build to work
every boss fight is a giant mess of effects and I don't see the attack telegraphs let alone my own PE indicators
Pyet and the fucking lightning Cerberus thing are the absolute worst offenders
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>>573875383
OH MY GOD I WENT IN AGAIN

THREE DIDFERENT TWEYENS IN A ROW I WANT TO BAN HER
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PARALYZE
PARALYZE
PARALYZE
*rapes you*
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Can you turn off Lyria's chain burst thing? It's so disruptive, honestly kinda annoying, dunno why they added it
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>>573875926
So youre saying the summons have a better chance of getting those skills on that stage?
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>>573874851
i have seem like one percy in like 50 quests since the dlc launched. Is he good in the dlc? or was he good before? lol
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Lucilius is the most retarded boss fight I've ever fucking seen. What kind of convoluted mmo dogshit is this?
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I'm kinda lost but that's my fault for stating a gacha 15 years late
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>>573874020
Eustace is extremely timing based.
Humans have it rough
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>>573875794
Actually, hold that thought, I just forgot about the summons. AGAIN
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>>573875994
the damage cap is just another "wall" i must scale
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>>573876226
FFXIV and WoW have done irreparable damage to videogame conveyance for attacks since they just draw circles and lines everywhere and you don't even look at the attack itself
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>>573876235
There's so much shit I have no idea how you'd begin to interact with it as a beginner now. I fell off at one point and I feel like I'm a beginner with how much new shit there is. Feels like the endgame is so far away from me and I used to be at the endgame that took hundreds of hours to get to lmao.
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>>573874779
Did the Lobby explode? Stuck on a black screen
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>>573875717
is there a summons list anywhere yet?
i'm pretty sure the bis shit drops from the infinity quests but it'd be good to know
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>>573876226
>boss fight have... mechanic?! wtf I can't just attack and dodge telegraphed attacks?!
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Which mastery style are people using on Fraux? all the level 3 ones seem really jank, with any upsides being dulled by the downsides
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>>573854510
Statistically speaking at least one Fediel should have replied to this, but you know damn well they're ashamed of themselves
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>>573875717
>>573876374
Only summons dropped from Infinity can have up to 100% cap
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>>573875926
which dragon drops berserker in the 4 dragon quest? I do it quite a lot and found a few stout hearts but never a zerker
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>>573876447
Ooooh that makes sense actually
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>>573876226
What issues do you have with it? It's insanely well designed to me. Easily the most engaging fight of the base game.
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>>573876447
Wrong, I got an 80% cap in Chaos++ off one of the bosses.
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>>573876447
is there an infinity summon with stout heart
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>>573876119
you can't, in fact it's pretty important for hard fight
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>>573876543
Yeah, 80% isn't 100% you dumbass
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>>573876459
I just do this. I got both Stout Heart and Berserker from it.
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>>573876345
>>573874779
ggs. lobby is still up. Chaos++/Infinity

8ANT WTJ7 8CR5 XDT0
pass: vidya
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>>573876105
Thanks
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>>573876058
>get a double fediel group
Oh

That was... idk... anticlimactic?
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>>573876549
I haven't seen one yet, but I got War Elemental Rolan so I think these generic traits are in every mission, just rare
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I never got the Alpha Beta Gamma sigils in the vanilla game and I'm at Chaos+ now. Should I bother getting them now or are they obsolete at this point?
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>>573876420
crux has the highest dummy dps but it's bypassing the gauge generation problem with link attacks, i'm not sure how they're doing it but they fill like half their bar with a single link attack

insight seems to be the way to go for reasonable play since you can get a good chunk of gauge from dead lands
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>>573875136
How do you get an ER sigil?
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>>573876007
She did something in stageplay and was jumped by 6Dragons + Orologia
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>>573876664
remember, these fediels robbed the enjoyment from you, carry that hatred on
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>>573876763
they're pretty outdated now
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What quest/when do i unlock mastery Lv50? this is getting rough
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>>573876543
>you can only get the best thing from the hardest bosses
>wrong, I got a worse thing from an easier boss
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>>573876714
War elemental might just be one of Rolan's drops.
I've gotten two from infinity world so far
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>>573876763
they're obsolete since everyone is running stun power and hp sigils
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>>573874779
>>573876634
2/4
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Is there a reason to not spend CP in conflux?
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>>573876614
>>573876853

80% isn't 50% capped like the rest either you dumb faggot, means it can high roll to 100.
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>>573876801
And until our dead alternate reality self from that same stageplay shows up in the msq or an event, I'm treating it as non-canon.
I hope it does. Was pretty interesting
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>>573876929
Proof?
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I feel like my summons suck dick

Is it possible to farm specific ones?
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>>573876929
I think it's only summons dropped by megabosses (Rolan, Bubs, Lucilius, Lilith, etc) that can go up to 100%.
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>>573875202
no one asked lil bro
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Any tips on how to improve this build?
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>>573877013
Yeah, it was on one of the named summons that didn't have I, II, III in the name.
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>>573877050
do this >>573875136

>>573877010
do this >>573875926
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>>573876236
what does eustace even have that's timing based? just charging shots, or is there some hidden thing about perfect reload? there was a node that said it increased the window by 10% but I've never even seen perfect reload mentioned anywhere else
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>gain X stat for every <type> sigil equipped
Do these mastery traits count any of the following as sigils for this passive?
>sigils gained via summon trait or equip bonus
>sigils gained via wrightstone effects
>sigils gained via weapon passives
or is it strictly physical sigils equipped under that part of the character gear?

Also do double sigils with both falling in the category count as two?
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Am I supposed to transcend every weapon?
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>>573877193
it is strictly the first slot of your equipped sigils and not skills gained through things that aren't sigils
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>>573877267
yes
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>>573877267
If you max them the masteries you get from them get additional bonuses
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>>573875926
What quests to farm to get the builds to be able to farm these haha
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>>573877315
>>573877321
So much to farm for all my AI companions lmao...
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>>573877193
Just sigils. Traits aren't sigils
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Is there a mod to skip all the fate episodes? I can't be bothered to do all of them.
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>>573877334
You should have some Alpha, Gamma, Celestial, War Elemental, Berserker, or Spartan summons by the time you reach Chaos++. Just slot them in and replace them once you get the summon you want. Play with pugs and use Full Assist Mode if needed.
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>>573877474
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>>573877173
He has traits that give him both meter and flamek levels if he perfect dodges with strafe shot/his dodge skill.
It's really hard to hit those consistently enough for the uptime he needs on his lvl3/4 shots as a player
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>>573877050
you should find summons with war elemental and the celestial traits so you can put more stun power/hp sigils in your build. also get rid of the generic dmg cap sigils, they should be the second trait in your stun power/hp sigils instead
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>>573877536
Link to the mod?
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>>573877493
>summons by the time you reach Chaos
sigils*
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>>573877559
I don't condone cheating
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>>573876898
still 2/4

Chaos++/Infinity lobby request anything

8ANT WTJ7 8CR5 XDT0
pass: vidya
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>>573877559
just use cheatengine and toggle the speed button
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>infinity quests
wtf bosses are unlinkable... I have 300+ stun...
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>>573877687
everyone else also needs to have 300 stun
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>>573877050
where the fuck is your stun?
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>>573853917
Any Katbros out there? What sigil should I change into?
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>>573876908
No. Spend them whenever you can.
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In cruxes, should I be spending my CP in the shops or should I be saving it?
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>>573877050
Bea desperately needs Stout Heart and the sigil that buffs you defense in Stout Heart. Unless you are using summons with those.
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>Conflux gives zero MSP
owari da...
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>>573854510
captain main here, i think he's amazing. Versatility was always his strength but thats been cranked up to 11 now. The changes to his charge attack have basically killed any reason to do his long combo chains for better or worse. He gets so much built in cdr now that even if you aren't running regenleiv he probably always has a cooldown up. He won't do the biggest dick damage but he will put up good numbers while providing some sort of really good utility cause almost every skill he has is pulling double duty now. Combat Healer feels boring as sin to play but buffs the hell out of team in both damage and survivability. Adept/dps tree starting at lvl 2 is super comfy but doesn't necessarily feel unique as it has extremely valuable perks at each level that you're trying to figure out how to take no matter what tree you're going. Substitute build is unbelievably good and can be played as both hybrid dps and pure support.

TL;DR many ways to build captain right now and none of them are bad
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>>573877659
I wanna play with you guys but I also have a group of friends who want to progress the game together and they're taking their sweet time.
Still have to beat the world. Soon bros.
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Do I bother?
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>>573878031
5* is an absolutely massive increase
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>>573878031
you get more caps so yes
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>>573877782
Change into a new character. Her kit doesn't fucking work in this game and they didn't bother to fix it.
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gamers i need the meta, how am i farming silver centrums? im at luci/bubs/baha in chaos++
am i really doing conflux? 40 seems a little low for how long a run takes
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>>573878117
you get a ton just from doing the later chaos++ quests. sometimes you get 40
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>>573877659
still open?
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Going blind. Just equip defender? I'm a shitter.
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>>573878210
you mean sometimes you get 40 centrums per time you run the same quest? thats insaneo I guess I'll do that then
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>>573878275
3/4 we're slmining right now. ill let you in in like a minute
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>>573878275
We're sliming but there's a spot left
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>>573878101
I mean I can always go into Fedielslop but it seems like there's repulsion for it.
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>>573878275
alright, check again
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>naked bubs
he can't help himself can he
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I've done Zega but still haven't found the three men in red.
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>>573878354
Did they give him new patterns and voice lines for this fight?
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I had to turn on auto combat to beat Lucilius.
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>>573875926
If I want a stout heart is it better to farm dragons or the big faggot on meth?
I kinda hate the big faggot on meth.
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>>573878354
just don't lick the floor
there are dps checks though...
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>>573877951
I'm currently using armor break, decimate, overdrive surge and rage, but I'm not sure if this support enough, and I need decimate to build up my meter
What skills do you prefer?
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>>573877782
>i would like to use my summon
>oh i used dodge and its gone :(
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Is the final boss a gimmick fight?

I never hear anyone talk about it
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>>573878354
you should have transcended ascension by the time you get to here anon wtf are you doing
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>>573879023
Versa? you fight him a fair bit. Manyiu not so much
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how2playseofon
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There's no way lancelot's that bad
He gets 100% defense for free
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is Vaseraga actually usable now or nah? tried him when game first came out but ended up just chasing after mobile bosses so i never played him again
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>>573879105
I meant of the expansion
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>>573878984
thought they fixed that?
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>>573879234
>is the character who was god tier good
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>>573879023
It has one part where you have to do platforming thats about it. He spawns elemental adds between you fighting him but thats about it. Honestly hes probably the easiest endgame boss in the game
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>>573879287
you farm six dragons yea
they have a superboss version too
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>Showman is a Gallanza playstyle that emphasizes skills and combo finishers instead of Turbines
>Combo finishers generate silverwolf gauge
>Silverwolf gauge forces you into the mode with no combo finishers
Make it make sense
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>>573879206
i like him
comfy character
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>>573879660
Gallanza is a mess

Turbine build is the only build on him that feels properly made but it has absolutely pathetic damage, like even worse than ferry or tweyen
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Did you guys know that Seofon has alternating XY combos? He has XYXY and XXYXY. I guess it's useful if you have something that boosts the power/cap of y attacks specifically.
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does this give good top tier wrightstones?
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>>573879771
oh shit multiple characters do. You can do Gran's XY to get close and press X again to keep going the full combo to max out his arts level. Is that new to ER or have I been sleeping on that this whole time?
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A lot of people are playing males. Is this an ip for gays?
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>>573879965
when i chose it they were all trash. They are good if you dont have anything i guess but its not 20/15/10
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>>573880036
yes, and lesbians
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>>573880036
this only applies to gacha games and rolling on male banners
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>sandolphon
>tweyen
We all know those are the two worst pubs you can possibly get, but who would be the third?
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Where is the absolutely retarded Charlotta player who tried to say Flight Over Fight doesn't just cuck your DPS? Cause this says otherwise. Top is without a dodge. Bottom is after a FoF dodge. This shit fucking sucks and there is no reason to ever run this dogshit sigil when you have a billion defensive options anyway. This shit doesn't take your excess cap into account and reduces your damage AFTER damage calculation you fucking spud-brain. Which means you are losing 50% of your damage NO MATTER WHAT your DMG Cap situation is. Suck my fucking nards you actual gorilla nigger.
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>DMG cap, Berserker Echo, Spartan Echo, War Elemental, Fatebreaker, Celestial Lumen, Improved Dodge, Nimble Onslaught, Supplementary DMG
Basically a must in any build. Fatebreaker DOES work in Infinity.
>Potion Hoarder, Guts, Auto-Revive
Also generally a must unless you're a no-hit god.
>Stout Heart, Character sigils
Required as usual for the characters that need it

>Stun Power and Uplift
Fast SBA builders should max out Uplift, everyone else should have 3 Stun Power sigils for the DMG cap and stun utility. Generally good to have at least a few levels in uplift from somewhere too just for the high value per point for the first 16 levels
>Celestial Aqua, Celestial Ventus
These apply at the end of damage calculations and bypass damage cap, so they're very useful. A lot of damage is done during Link Time, Break and SBAs so Aqua's value can't be underestimated. Ventus will mean you lose out on blue pots from teammates primarily, which isn't that big of a deal as most of the time people use these for themselves rather than for (You)
>Steel Nerves (with Stout Heart), Stronghold, Aegis/Greater Aegis
Steel Nerves and Stronghold are excellent sources of survivability, better than Greater Aegis/Aegis because the former improves our eHP significantly while the latter just lets us tank oneshots which are much more rare and telegraphed in ER
>Divergence, Regen
Underrated. Divergence and Regen bring a lot of value because you'll be able to passively top yourself off especially during downtime. Better than drain because of that. Better the more HP you have, not so great if you have barely 100k HP.
>Cascade, Quick Cooldown
Bells and whistles that are a bit harder to implement in ER. Getting 15~ levels in each goes a long way though

>Celestial Nyx, Celestial Incendo, Celestial Terra
All pretty niche with heavy opportunity costs. Incendo just can't beat out the value of a white sigil outside of the 2 permanent overdrive fights. Terra and Nyx cost a lot while not giving much.
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>There are people unironically using assist mode to clear inifinity
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>>573879965
they are shit
not even 15 for the first skill
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>>573880265
Imagine getting into a debate with anyone over charlotta mechanics

Thats like having an in depth discussion on putting on socks, or making a ham sandwich
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>>573880313
why do you make up scenarios in your head? its disabled for infinity dumdum
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imagine if you could use your mouse cursor in the ui
i wish i lived in that world...
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>>573880361
The issue is he thought he was right and that he could misinform other Charlotta players into picking up said dogshit sigil and ruin runs with it. I knew from the start he was full of shit.
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>>573880369
i mash my controller buttons like a retard sometimes still because its a bit unintuitive and feels like the menus are just MADE for mouse control rather than controller
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>>573880430
Yeah I mean all forms of damage up are useless now anyway since everything is just humping the damage cap, youre right
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>>573878925
Personally i run (on damage tree) regenliev(its much better now that it can cancel into quick charge power raise++ which in turn feeds back a ton of cooldown reduction) decimate overdrive surge and then flex between rage and dispel depending on the fight. In terms of support you cant really go wrong between on anything that isnt decimate or regenliev, as so many skills now do like 2 things at once for gran. Hell you could even try going debuff master with miserable mist arrow rain armor break and then your choice of damage skill if youre trying to support your team more without switching trees.
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Since there's charlotta fans ITT

What did you pick for her third mastery? Honestly none of them really reached out to me. I ended up getting the perma-empowered one simply because of the nodes on the mastery, not because of the mastery itself, but i guess its kind of cute
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>>573880295
>Celestial Terra
>niche
t. 700% enjoyer
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>>573880513
No, he was arguing that the -50% damage DEBUFF from an FoF perfect dodge didn't decrease your damage because you're over the cap anyway cause he was assuming it would subtract from your overcapped, unusable damage anyway and kept trying to act like he was remotely right in saying it. When I knew for a fact both DMG% increases and decreases are applied AFTER DMG Cap which means you are absolutely losing damage for using that dogshit sigil and was even trying to convince others that it was a usable pick AT ALL-- which could have ended up misinforming other Charlottas to grief runs with it.
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>>573875417
>laughs in Vane
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>>573880546
Guess I'm at least half correct
I usually switch armor break to regenliev when I feel like it but when the boss is jumping around I miss my armor break so much
Will take count of your opinion, thanks
Also I think veil is very good against bosses with delay, sadly the uptime is very short
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>>573880614
I just use the Noble Order one so I can drop Warpath for a different sigil and I get the first rank of the Diamond Cutter one for some extra damage and to be rewarded even more for using my Y button parry.
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>>573880669
Yeah seemed stupid anyway since its not like charlotta even needs dodge as much as some characters do she can just invuln through the game
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>>573880614
always empowered is probably the best trait.
parry style sucks because parrying buffs her autos and not the finishers, but always empowered buffs finishers while requiring you to mash to upkeep the buff you get from skill hits.
It's like they did everything in their power to make her kit worse because we were having too much fun spinning.
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>>573879152
please respond
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why does Narmaya have Hostility? Is it a meme by the devs?
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>>573880874
She kind of got fucked in the expansion and it's kinda crazy so few people talk about it considering shes popular
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>>573880870
Nobody plays him since he's basically dumpster-tier.
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>>573879337
They did. The summon is still gone but the bar isn't reset so you can just do small combo to summon it again.
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>>573880874
A bunch of her gacha versions have suball or similar so they're just bringing that over too I guess
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>>573879987
Oh yeah knew that about gran for a long time thats base game tech. The 4 combos the game lists are just the end-points so you can mix and match it as needed. IIRC XXYXY(combo B transitioning to combo D) was the "optimal" combo because it was the highest damage prior to the finisher, had the shortest animations, and the combo D finisher gives you the fastest power raise charge time. XY is still my preferred starter with gran since like you said it lets you gap close and you can still backpedal to the very fast XYY combo if you don't think you'll have the time to complete the full string.
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>Versa has an actual DPS check
well fuck i was so used to just pressing buttons that I didnt think it would happen
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>>573880904
is the mastery that lets you stay in purple single target stance not good?
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Chaos++/Infinity lobby request anything

8ANT WTJ7 8CR5 XDT0
pass: vidya

3/4
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>>573879987
If you're looking for more characters that can do it I'd look at command lists and find characters that have combos that end with YY. Vaseraga bros already know this tech and I'm hoping the bea players picked it up too
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im leveling past mastery lvl 50 and it says more nodes are available but i dont see anything being available what does that even mean
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>>573881307
It's back in the base mastery nodes.
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post the patreon cheat engine table with spawnable sigils and summons
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>>573880295
The problem you're ignoring wirh aegis is context. A tankier character can make good use out of it by sometimes eating a hit or two to revive someone in a pinch.
Sure, you can optimize them down, but unless you yourself are a god of gaming or are playing with a good group, they're still gonna help.
And they make divergence better.
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does fatebreaker work in defy infinity
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>>573880653
the amount of damage cap it adds is close to nothing but it rapes your hp
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How many character sigils are there now? Do I need them all or is it a case by case thing? How about the Warpath sigils? And I see the eternals have another extra sigil as well?
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>>573881140
>Make her boring by removing her main feature
Devs are stupid to put the same too unga brained to stance switch and cant unga brain same stance all the time in the same mastery style
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>>573880295
>>Cascade, Quick Cooldown
>Bells and whistles that are a bit harder to implement in ER. Getting 15~ levels in each goes a long way though
bro, your wrightstone?
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got a funny bug that stopped me from chain bursting on that 2 chain
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>>573881828
There's 3. 2 that can spawn together on an awakening sigil and then the warpath sigil. Most are good but there are some exceptions with some noteworthy ones being Id only needing a single one of his three sigils if he's doing faith in dragonform. The eternals and sandalphon have an extra sigil that basically functions like the base game terminus weapons and caps their HP since they originally did not have terminus weapons but the sigil is practically obsolete in ER
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>>573881843
so many masteries were missed opportunists like heres 5% attack and 10% defense while attacking
meanwhile dev's favorites like Id and sandy get word salads
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75% of my kits are nothing but dmg caps and I hate it
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is war elemental mandatory? does it bypass dmg caps?
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So for Beelzebub you block the red balls and dodge the yellow ones?
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>>573875618
So if I nixed the 2 HP ones it'd only really be a roughly 3% loss?
Cause I'd love to see if getting some cooldown/cascade in my build would be meaningful for more buffs.
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>>573881687
no
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>tfw savescumming to get a Warpath that doesn't have FUCKING THROW DAMAGE on it
adding a pity was too hard huh
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>>573882082
yes
>>573882176
yes
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>>573881687
Yeah i tested earlier. My damage went down without fatebreaker
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>>573881687
yes
>>573882204
misinfo merchant
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>>573881976
Do you fucking run his Warpath on Dragonform? I think the full 4 minute uptime is more worth it than the bonus damage you deal.
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>>573882192
On a maxed out Fraux minus perfect summons that is what i got from testing for about 30 minutes. I dont know the math needed for it but i always figured If you had max cascade/cooldown/nimble it would probably in general be a higher damage bonus than most damage if you play a character where a lot of damage comes from skills.
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>>573881164
still 3/4 we're questing anyways. reply if you want in
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>>573854510
Yoda
Pretty fun but a either I suck a lot more or a some attacks just have realy weird timings. Also the few obligatory moves that hit multiple times so you straight up can't parry them. Haven't gotten past mastery 30 yet so no clue if there's anything revolutionary in them but so far it's been mostly the same.
Also mirror image seems a lot better at saving teammates than I remember
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>>573882732
My planning is for Vane who doesn't really use damage skills much and his personal dps isn't the best. So the idea is if cascade and cooldown add a decent bit of uptime to his buffs it would more than offset his small damage loss by benefiting the team overall.
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>>573880874
I actually ran it
The up to 50% defense reduction is really good and having 100% uptime on hostility is great actually since you don't have to run half across the map all the time when the boss swaps to a ranged unit
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JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING STOUT HEART SUMMONS ALREADY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>different friend to my levelling group of friends wants to play together
>the stuff I want to grind is mostly in the SOLO roguelite mode and savescumming means I'd need to leave and rejoin the party after every mission
why did they gate materials behind a solo only system that takes a chunk of time to do regardless of how stacked your team is it's so retarded
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>>573882514
Was actually talking about Versalis foundation as the one character sigil you might run. Warpath is just a bad trade. Like yeah an extra 10% dmg sounds cool but faith in dragonform 3 already gives you 50% dmg and 10% supp damage. Having a much better up time for those buffs matters a hell of a lot more
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>>573883234
Stout is the only one I've gotten, a few of them actually. But I haven't gotten any war elemental or echoes
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she keeps breaking my game
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>>573883273
pretty sure most stuffs drop from conflux also drop from co-op
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>>573883234
summons feel like a massive rng time sink
i haven't seen a single summon with a damage boost higher than 60 while spamming infinity quests, and apparently 75/80/100 exist
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>Beelzebub uses Raging Strike to extend his combo like in the fighting game
P E A K
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>>573854510
Fediel. I can feel myself becoming worse at this game but she got me S++ on the infinites.
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>>573882732
I'm almost certain it's more damage, but even if it was slightly less damage, having skills off cooldown more often is simply more fun
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Bea's yellow clock is making me stupid. Mechanics are no longer real. There is only RIDING FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Can summons comes with spartan or berserker echo? Might be a stupid question but I've yet to see a single one.
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I'm at bahamut versa and I'm kinda getting shit on by the dps check
all my weapons are level 75,,
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Remember not to use Fediel in Infinity co-op because people are starting to instantly leave when they see her.
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>>573883871
yes they can
summons all have their own sets of rolls, so only certain summons can get it
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>>573883935
Is the nothing those dragons don't drop...
The mines are forever
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>>573883935
Very good, thank you.
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>>573883902
no they aren't
the only instant leaves i've seen were because there were people in the party who weren't level 50
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>>573854510
It was Naru in base game and I already decided to main Fediel when she got announced
Didn't expect her to become meta but holy shit is it nice playing a ranged character when all bosses spaz out teleporting everywhere, and also holy shit is she fun. Just spamming balls and zooming in and out whenever she feels like it is great. All characters should have a gap closer on demand.
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>>573883891
Thats not a lot of info to go on. Hows your sigils looking? Are you playing solo with AI? If so are they geared? Are you failing under optimal conditions(SBA Full burst chain + Link Time)?
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>>573883849
I just had a run where my party was 4 beas.
My ears will never recover.
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dude I never imagined that this minigame boss would actually be repeated. are they kidding with this? So painfully unfun.

>running after the thing's feet for 30 seconds, it fucking flies to the other side of the map
>running after it for 30 seconds, get it to 5% HP, and then are blown away across the desert
>repeat like four more times
>then second phase requires DPSing a series of pillars down at once, but the timing is tight and requires splitting DPS
>the AI bots don't split DPS
>you have to farm link or SBA just so you can extend the timer
>requires you to do this process at least twice

I'm already annoyed by this game's propensity to throw a ton of immune phases at the player. but when you make them run across this vast distance and coordinate all this dumb shit for a gimmick fight, it's especially bad.
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>>573884097
Well Im not even sure where you farm sigils but SBAs werent ready when I got to the damage check so I think my AI companions are shit rn
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>>573883902
>people are starting to instantly leave when they see her.
Why?

>>573884275
What's your MSP situation like? You should be putting as much into Offense and Defense columns for everyone in your party. Make sure you are upgrading everyone's weapons to unlock nodes in the Collections column too. Otherwise, maybe save link time for that phase. I remember it being tight though, that's a difficult fight.
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>>573854510
cog
i will never win an MVP but i know my team of retards would wipe without me
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>>573884240
>I never imagined that this minigame boss would actually be repeated
We repeat everything ad infinitum. This is granblue fantasy.
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>>573883891
which difficulty, the first versa?
Save your SBA until dps check
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Eustace
why
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>>573884240
you're suppose to look for the cannon and shoot his leg if they're visible, otherwise shoot the red ball on his body
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What is the best source of Skill cap up summons? Need them for my skill spamming Bea and Fraux?
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Should I get the Switch 2 version
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>>573880874
You use it to aggro slimes so your rackam can clean up
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Found a stream of JP Song player wiping on endgame raids for 9hr
No wonder everyone rates her so low.
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>>573884841
I can't imagine why not. Game doesn't have heavy requirements so it runs at 60 perfectly fine on the switch 2
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>>573885028
It runs at 30fps anon
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>Ferry mastery that gives bonus for not using her pets
what genius was in charge of this shit
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>Flailing so fucking hard in procession of dragons that the game almost crashed
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>>573885042
how the fuck
theres like a million games that run at 60 on the switch 2
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>>573854060
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Just ran into someone with almost 14k commends...
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>>573885512
I saw someone with 51k recently on day 1, chinese ofc
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>>573863658
What? She's easily the most developed character in the game. She starts as mentally stunted due to witnessing her family getting murdered. She gets a few seasonal units that are just for fanservice/fun. She eventually find the murder and gets revenge in an update to her original unit. Then her next unit (that took way too many years) is her finally starting to get better. She's still stunted and can't speak properly, but much better than in her earlier incarnations.
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>>573874007
mastery nodes
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>booba vtuber
>look inside
>male voice
FUCK!!!
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>>573885912
>Female moving png on the screen
>look inside
>LGBTQ+ - MtF - Lesbian
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>>573885912
Why not just play the game yourself, anon?
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>chinkmaxxing build
4 lucifer summons with dmg cap up 100%, gamma and alpha/beta
Terminus weapon
glass cannon on weapon custom trait
Imbue HP 20, supplementary dmg 15, dmg cap 10
>traits from sigils
4 DMG caps
2 supplementary dmg
6 of the new sigils, fatebreaker aqua ventus incendo terra and lumen or nyx
3 from war elemental/berserker echo/spartan echo
5 from 3 stun power, 2 hp sigils
1 from guard payback if you want the maximum potential damage number possible

3 slots remaining for character sigils and anything else.
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>>573884573
yeah thats what I needed
also went back and upgraded a bit of defense because some attacks were oneshotting me like crazy
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>>573886102
no thanks
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>struggling in inf luci, 7x wipes in pubs
>sieg shows up
>fight suddenly not so bad
>struggling in inf hexa usually running out of time even some fediels halfass their sigils i feel
>sieg shows up
>fight feels like the easiest out of all infi bosses, would get the no death title too if someone didn't choke during last phase
is it simply the power of dmg cut spam or he is actually good now?
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>>573886102
who cares
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game never elaborated if Bahamut is a copy like the other summons or if he's literally Lyrias dog
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OFFICIAL TIER LIST OF PLAYERS
>S TIER
Japanese Siegfried players
>A TIER
Players with funny usernames in English
>B TIER
Players with normal usernames
>C TIER
Moonrune (formal del nihon) usernames
>D TIER
English and Japanese username Narmaya players
>E TIER
Moonrune (forma del Korea and China) usernames
>F TIER
Korean and Chinese username Narmaya players
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>>573886209
I was expecting regular ZA WARUDO to require a few retries but I got S++ on it on the first try cause of a fucking cracked out Katalina player. Some of these niche character enjoyers are fucking scary.
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>>573886102
my eyes are getting more narrow reading this
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I think Vyrn might be my least favorite character in fiction. Like he doesn't contribute to fucking anything. He's not even the mascot, Lyria is
Fucking hate that little shit
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>>573886480
EASIER THAN EATING APPLES
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>>573886312
What's "funny" ?
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>get a war elemental rolan
>substat is flat HP
god fucking damn it i'm going to be in the mines forever...
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>>573886480
I dunno I kinda like being Vyrn's Bestest Pal
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From Charlotta to Narmaya, how hard is it to play Fraux?
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>>573886480
The game fondles around about it but Vyrn is supposed to be an Aspect of Bahamut so they kinda have to have him around in the story because they set it up and ending it would be a major plot beat
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>>573886592
Like a slight bit harder than danchou at worst
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>>573886592
Medium high. She doesn't get free uptime without risk and she doesn't have many built in defensives that let her unga
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Anyone deep dive into the mechanics of buffs and debuffs yet? I can tell attack buffs and defense debuffs are kinda working but not at full potency. As for defense buffs and attack debuffs, i have no fucking clue
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>>573886480
He raised Gran/Djeeta for 15 years, put some respect to mama Vyrn
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>>573886480
The anti-burger...
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theres too much good zeta porn
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>>573887637
well?
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>>573887637
Bea porns are still superior
https://nhentai.net/g/222925/
https://nhentai.net/g/251607/
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>beat game
>see all the skill trees
oh my god idk where to even start
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Permanent coffinmaker rackam is such a meme and I love it
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>complete roland quests, please
>2/8
>2/8
>2/8
oh youre one of those games
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>fof lancenigger in bubs infi
>still gets hit and eats all the bar
homoshitter
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>>573887637
Things nobody said ever
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>>573854806
There is a fun quest where you fight all these crabs and a fish jumps out. the crabs are there to distract you, the fish is the goal.
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>>573888897
Osaka wouldn't say this, actually.
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any vane builds? kinda wana be a rampart slut
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>decide to check the dummy to see what my damage is after finishing the game
>switch to damage cap %
>
>1%
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>game with 2 yodas
>constantly have 5 mirror images on me at all time
is the midget worth learning? i wanna be like that
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>>573855508
The image is rather retarded but if you understand it that is the "meta"
>>>/v/743192768

the idea is you want to have the stun,health and other defence and support sigils on the FIRST slot. Everything else that you can on the 2nd slot as these stat buffs from mastery only work if its on the first slot.
retarded
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>>573890043
none of yordaha's masteries open up new playstyles
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>>573880265
anon, nobody listens to the charlotta poster, we have already established that
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>>573890049
this image is so retarded i have no idea what the fuck it's saying even if i get what the supposed meta about first slot basic-stats is
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi93qg1A_S0
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>>573890268
its really the worst infographic ive ever seen
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>>573890268
its already compressed to hell despite being a .png kek
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>>573890268
Yeah I commented the same and asked if anons can redo it
>>>/v/743224705

i understand it though. After looking at it too long.
The color arrows size are the numbers of slots to take and it leads to what to pit on teh 2nd.
Though it also hoping you have WE, BE and SE on your summons. Plus 1 new ER sigil.

It is super retarded but the info is there.
Still its a long way off and RNG to get the right summons to be able to put fucking base stats on your build as first slots (fucking retarded of the devs) and its for meta so no real rush to do it.
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>>573862458
This is more for meta fags but I doubt that small amount of cap is better than some other utility.
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>>573890831
assuming that the damage boosts apply after the cap like most of the DLC damage boosts, it'd be pretty damn good
there aren't that many 2-cost summons worth a damn as it is
what else is there, the gacha wheel that gives shield?
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So something like this then?
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>>573890954
20% link bar
The pot summon for another 15(?) link as well as heals
Party wide supplemental from the veil summon
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who are the best AI team mates now?
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i want fraux to kick me like she's using dead lands on me
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>>573891025
>hero's will
>hero's creed
idk the second traits of those, but you can just use Awakening and synthesize both of the second traits, assuming they're either defensive or support traits.
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>>573890954
Wheel is a 1 slot.
idk all the summons, and disregarding the traits on the summons, all that adds to the match is +45% cap if everyone uses it. i am sure there are better 2 slot or 3 slot sigils that take more health from the boss than a accumulation of +45% cap.
remember too that sigil will be +15% cap after every 1 bar of summon, assuming the 4th player already used the 1st bar of summon to make that 2 slot go to a 1 slot.
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>>573891209
>Party wide supplemental from the veil summon
This is what i been using but retards online dont even use summons so i just started putting the wheel on to keep them alive.
it is a 1slot too.
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>>573891541
Similar thought process for me as well.
I spam rolan bubbles during later overdrive phases to keep dodgelets up
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>>573869423
Link to the mod? I used to have it but lost it during a reformat.
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Devour Causality should give Bea the effect of all 3 cocks.
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>>573891720
idk what he does.
desu not even looked into summons at all, I thought these will only be useful to me, personally in solo with AI. i just look at the traits and the sub traits. Though i of course know that use 1, then its -1 from the cost of the next so it is economical to have a 1,2,3,3 in that order on your side. So i slot a 1 cost and sword veil I have has a new ER damage cap sigil and sup for the team.
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>>573892070
You control him like a character and landing combos lets you press triangle for a vane bubble that sits in place.
You can pump a couple out over the duration.
The humanoid damage ones are pretty fun.
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the difficulty curve of chaos++ feels all over the place
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is it ever a legitimate 'build' to ignore the level 3 mastery style thing and just pick random mastery traits that are good, if the level 3 style capstone things look like complete horse shit for your character?
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is it possible to get slot 1 basic sigils from synthesizing?
>>573892424
sure why not
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>>573892424
why wouldn't it?
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Oh hey Hexa also had Phoenix theme, really feels like they added every song from the gacha and even quite a few from Versus.
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>>573892687
Some are ok but
>fight Pyat
>random ass Vaseraga + Zeta theme
I know why they're there but they still feel completely random and out of place anyway
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>use zeta and song as AI and leveled their ML since I use them sometimes
>They're now the worst AI and sometimes will stand there and do nothing
Give my MSP back...
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>>573891382
They both have damage cap
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Sucking cagliostro small tiddies
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Newfriend here (playing on switch), planning to offline play forever, how miserable will be to do end game with cagliostro?
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>>573893093
While cagliostro is bottomed out in you
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I officially beat the game
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>>573893410
Doesn't count
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>>573893410
now do it without the y button
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who are some good slimeblasting characters
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>>573871369
I am a percy main, he has difficulties with mobile bosses as usual of course but he can offset that with the quick instant skill cooldwons and slotting both gap closer skills.
I personally am not slotting them both just saying that is his crutch for mobile bosses.
then you have the new skill tree that fucking nukes offsetting any damage loss but its annoying micro management and again, mobile bosses you dont have time to use the long winding buff for the stacks of the perk.
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>hey this mastery perk on this character looks fun
>I don't wanna slimeblast for 2 hours
>shit
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>>573893417
>>573893503
who do you play
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Useful links:
Render scale with DLSS and FSR with HDR support
https://github.com/Filoppi/Luma-Framework
Scroll down in the release page and get Luma-Granblue_Fantasy_Relink.zip then unzip into your game folder

Ultrawide support
https://github.com/RetroGawd/granblue-fantasy-relink-ragnarok-ultrawide
unzip into game folder
useful features like fov increase and increase camera zoom support in the .ini

Can be used together and safe for online
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>>573893686
Thank you Zoi
May your crimes be forgiven one day



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