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Magical Friend edition

Previous hunting party: >>573883917

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

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ralsei butt
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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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long drawn out breathy sex with the vessel
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>>573901540
ralsei cock
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I LOVE TV!
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>>573901575
i forgor
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>>573901596
me too!
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I wish Deltarune had more actualy bullet hell combat. Or a Deltarune without [act]ing every enemy away in 2 turns
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Hate Tv
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>>573901581
...Is on the chopping block in chapter 6
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What object in your house would you want to meet as a Darkner?
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post (weird) noelles
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>>573901735
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>>573901689
just play 2d shooters
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>>573901724
The anime figure of my waifu
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What is the Asriel II meme supposed to mean?
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>>573901689
Deltarune Hard Mode when?
Harder patterns, longer fights.
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>>573901735
who drew this
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>>573901502
Anime FRIEND is black because she is in a gang(she is a thug)
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Would you?
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>>573901652
Deserving of all the love
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>>573901735
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why the hell do mentally ill faggots on twitter, reddit, and tumblr obsess so fucking hard over Kris's gender like it's the second coming of christ? the kid literally acts like a fucking dude the entire time, walks like a dude and has the personality of a mute edgelord male protagonist. yeah, characters and Toby use "they" pronouns because he hates giving humans a gender, but the kid literally acts like a fucking dude the entire time. silent edgelord behavior, the way he moves, literally everything screams male. yet retarded blue haired ninnies on twitter turn it into this massive pronoun holy war, screeching about nonbinary rep and erasure every time someone dares to draw or talk about Kris as a guy even if it's by accident.

Toby Fox deliberately doesn't slap a gender on the human characters because he's a quirky indie dev who wants you to project or whatever, but that doesn't magically turn Kris into your special snowflake headcanon. it shouldn't be an important part about the game, but no, the fandom has to twist it into some epic pronoun discourse (depending on your amazing political views) because god forbid a character just be a normal guy without your identity politics cancer infecting it. it's always the same blue haired pronoun warriors projecting their own mutilated mental states onto a silent pixel kid. just admit you want to fuck the player insert or turn him into your fetish and stop pretending it's deep analysis you absolute fucking clowns.
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I just got diagnosed with autism /utg/. How do I feel about this?
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>>573901853
gang of anime FRIENDS beating me to death with baseball bats when?
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I look like this. Who want me?
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>>573901265
>Yes obviously, how do you know it was the mantle/"eram"
It would be weird for there to be somebody additional to whoever was playing/writing the mantle boss fight, who put the controller in Kris' way, in addition to Ramb who is also looped in a on this all.
>Why has there been no foreshadowing before or after that would imply their existence?
???
There are several mysterious figures who are foreshadowed repeatedly. "The Mantle Player" is a title like "The Egg Man" you could say that Egg Man has no relevance outside of his section, but we don't know who that is so you can't say that.
If you're asking why I think "there is a character who is 'the mantle player' and hasn't done anything else so far?" the answer is I don't believe that, and I think the rest of fandom is retarded for believing that.
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>>573901826
that there are two asriel (inside of me)
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>>573901896
>the kid literally (headcanon)
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Someone else drop the anchor, I don't want the (You)s
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>>573901831
I'm sure mods exist for this. Probably some good ones will happen when the game is finished
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>>573901896
Thats also why he is yellow
Its like a lego minifigure! You can make him any gender or race you want just like frisk
But frisk came out in a time where that stuff didnt matter much and people were more open to the idea of letting people choose whatever they wanted
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>>573901575
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK PIZZAPANTS/NICECREAMGUY/CATTY/BRATTY ARE A SUSIE/RALSEI/NOELLE/KRIS PARALLEL FUUUUUUUUUUCK MY THEORIES ARE BRICKED MY SAVE IS BRICKED I AM BRICKED UP FUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>573901735
Im particularly fond of this one. You had to be there.
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>>573901896
i go on 4chan to avoid that bullshit
you, i assume, are coming here to avoid that bullshit
why are you bringing that bullshit here
stop that
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>>573901401
>Anon Kris knows more about the prophecy than anyone else in hometown
Yes, but do you truly believe it's because they have some esoteric theological insight or do you think it's because they have time-space manipulation powers and could have lived this week countless times? Which do you think is more likely in the series about characters with time-space manipulation powers and the game where our player character has memories of events that haven't happened yet and there was a whole chapter about how we shouldn't let the words of the prophecy define what we do and be our focus?
>>573901529
>Okay, can you quote the post claiming that the Knight did that?
Anon you can't claim Kris knows everything about the prophecy because of the knight and then turn around say nobody ever said the knight explained everything to Kris. You're just realizing how stupid it sounds and you're backpedaling
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Kris is vietnamese
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Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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>>573901932
Togore is the only straight goat
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>>573902064
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>>573901907
isn't that diagnosed when you're a kid? how did you make it this far without knowing?
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>>573901896
>why the hell do mentally ill faggots on twitter, reddit, and tumblr
You forgot to add 4chan
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>>573902081
PERSON!
CREATION!
ANCHOR!
DEPTHS DEPTHS DEPTHS!
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>>573901896
I mean I agree, Toby made it so people can project whatever onto it. So people project whatever onto it, like you said.

Just try to ignore it.
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>>573901896
Because he's a zombie amalgamation of parts and not a human and probably doesn't have genitals.
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>>573901896
Maybe because Toby keeps pandering to people like that and lets his tranny devs make decisions now
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>>573902092
:)
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I think Genshin might be more fun than Deltarune
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>>573902109
Dont feed trolls anon
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>>573901896
I'm going to say this exactly once anon so pay attention:
Don't talk to those people. Ignore gender discussions. Fandom bullshit exists in every fandom and you're often talking to actual retards and 15 year olds who want to project themselves into the characters. Filter gender discourse, pronoun discourse, and block everyone who's obsessed with it. Literally just don't engage. If Toby fox wants to ruin this game and make gender discourse an important part of the story, that's too bad, but until then, just ignore it.
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Kris get the banana or your save file is going to be bricked
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If Sans was the final boss of the weird Route with an epic megalo remix would that be Peak or Cringe?
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RALSEI IS STRAIGHT
RALSEI IS HETEROSEXUAL
HE IS A DARKNER HE HAS TO OBEY ME
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Secondary hours right now
Fucking grim
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Ok so Kris is totally a nonbinary aro right?
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What are our current feelings on Mr. Fox?
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>>573901724
My pedestal fan might be my favorite object in my house I wanna dap him up
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hey guys!
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>>573902272
they aren't aro
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at least half of the art on the whiteboard was drawn while the artist had one hand down their pants
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Great. Someone had to take a big pronoun-scented shit right at the top of the new thread. There goes the next 6 hours of /utg/
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>>573902051
You are arguing with multiple different people. I was arguing with you first and I'm neither of those. Kris knows the prophecy. Nothing in the game indicates they got it from the Knight. They don't even need to. Kris was raised into the religion and knows how the prophecy goes and how it ends. Kris is the only person in Hometown who knows the whole thing AND knows it's happening right now, besides the conspiracy they work with. Susie doesn't know the whole thing and Ralsei doesn't know what happened in the past. Kris has the most information out of the Fun Gang. Kris let us play out the prophecy knowing it has a tragic ending. Probably even set up the Card Kingdom and intended for Susie to be The Girl.
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Can someone explain how Live A Life ending could inspire Deltarune ending?
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Togore would be one of those guys who can only get horny for drawings of gigantic 20 foot long dicks but says he is asexual
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>>573902295
I wanna fuck his creations so whatever he is doing is working
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>>573902205
>>573901896
This. You will never change the mind of these kinds of people (or even get them to try see your viewpoint). Just ignore, filter and block
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>>573902109
I've suspected I was for a long time I just didn't want to get it formally diagnosed. I only have now because my family pressured me into it.
>>573902192
I'm not a troll, I was sincerely diagnosed with autism like an hour ago. I just posted about it in to get it off my chest and because I thought if anywhere might understand it would be /utg/.
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>>573902335
The board used to be black too
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>>573902119
Reply with your work! Specially the work!
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>>573902335
You only need 1 hand to draw tho, I don't see a problem
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>>573902235
It would be Peak, but Sans doesnt deserve it
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>>573902092
You sure?
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>>573902295
the king of eroge
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>>573902378
Play it and find out.
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>>573902424
oh it's not a problem at all, it was just a statement
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boingy boingy boingy boingy
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>>573902295
he's doing okay
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>>573902092
Asgore is biromantic but heterosexual
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>>573902081
Illustrated a diabetes-inducing cute moment from a Pinkris fic from a couple threads ago (>>573550235 )
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>>573902465
>Asriel scored Dess
>Togore scored Chester
Damn Kris you suck lmao
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>>573902385
togore would say he's asexual but only because he's a closet zoophile
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>>573902295
The way he poison pills his games against rightoids is an inspiration
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>>573902119
I love looking at art.
Especially the art on /utg/.
You should really.
Draw some!
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>>573902006
I agree with the rest, but I'm not sure about Catty solely being Noelle because of this line from Bratty
>She's just like, my copy, right? So like...
>She should have like, MY standards, too!? Damnit!
Obviously this is a callback to Bratty and Catty's chapter 1 dialogue where they call each other copycats, but the fact that it comes up here in this specific way makes me think Catty is possibly a stand-in for both Noelle and the player/vessel.
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>>573902295
I think he’s a traitor for not openly admitting he’s a lolicon (Touhoufags never change) but I like his games, I just can’t respect him as a man.
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Would you sacrifice everything for what you love the most?
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>>573902081
gota draw must draw
pic churs
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>>573902753
You don't have the thorn ring, though
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Noelle isn't "used up" on the Weird Route, she's fully in control of the situation, but in the aborted weird route? She has nothing left to fight for, she has given up completely, we've moved on from her relevance, and now all that's left is to pick up our SWORD and play the real Forbidden Path.
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>>573902385
>>573902618
Togore reproduces by budding, so he's asexual technically he just freaky stuff for the love of the game.
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>>573902352
>Kris was raised into the religion and knows how the prophecy goes and how it ends
Kris sleeps through mass and only goes for the fruit juice
>Kris is the only person in Hometown who knows the whole thing
Why would Kris be the only person that knows the entirety of a prophecy that is stated to have unknowable sections lost to time? Where did they get this theological insight? How would they know more than Alvin? Where does the game imply they would've gotten that knowledge?
>Ralsei doesn't know what happened in the past
Ralsei only seemingly doesn't know now long the knight has been in the picture. Ralsei hides plenty of other things from us and Susie, including in chapter 5 so who's to say they wouldn't be hiding that too?
>Kris let us play out the prophecy knowing it has a tragic ending.
How and why would they stop the allegedly unstoppable prophecy that they know intimately?
>Probably even set up the Card Kingdom
Confirmed textually for the literate this chapter and confirmed contextually for the intelligent a year ago
>and intended for Susie to be The Girl
So you're saying Kris is taking very specific actions to manipulate the prophecy? Guess it came with a guide on how to avert it too since they're doing this good on the first try
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>>573902295
he should be embarrassed that he needed to add something substantive for fans to talk about in a fucking patch weeks after the chapter released, it really highlights how much ch5's normal route fuckin sucked
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>>573902051
I never said Kris knows everything about the prophecy, I said they know enough for their plans which is true as far as we know. Until Kris demonstrates awareness of puzzle solutions like Ralsei or any of the other fine details of the prophecy, I'm gonna assume the Knight told them "church... tonight..." so they would know there was a dark world in the church that night and similar things happened for the other dark worlds.
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>>573902791
For a second I thought the Knight had a long tail
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>>573902753
>Replay Chapter 3 and 4 exactly as they are on the A side for a third time, also play Chapter 5 again
TOBY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
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Asriel is straight but gay for pay
[/spoiler]Chara is both a dominatrix AND a cuckqueen that makes Azzy bottom for other men and he learnt to like it because she likes to see him like that.)
Ralsei is straight up gay femboy.
Togore is an aromantic asexual (poor chester)
Kris is a pussy.
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Is the self inserter still seething about Suselle?
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>>573901735
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I wish I could draw..
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>>573902820
You may be able to remove it from her in chapter 6. I'm not sure tho'
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>>573902690
He looks so creepy
lmao
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>>573902591
cute
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I love flowery
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>>573902830
True. The Forbidden Path "began" with Ice Magic, it doesn't mean it shall end with it.
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>>573902591
Extremly cute
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I missed the new thread but I still love fish
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>>573902378
Cyclical prophecy
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>only one ending
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>>573902929
Not sure how that happened but man I hate phone posting.
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TwistedSwordchads, our status?
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>>573901735
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>>573903151
Twisted Sword is the new Dessknight where the majority thinks it's locked in to happen next chapter but it doesn't get jack shit
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>>573903113
Why would this be the one end? It would be very anti-climatic and shitty. This is just a fail state, not an ending.
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>>573903151
Goreson-dono...
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I dont like Suselle because I don't think Noelle is being held back my emotion and could become way stronger if she focused on just how much power she has
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>>573902880
Kris is too old for the retards at the church who don't know what's going on. That doesn't mean they didn't learn the religion, fag. Use your brain. It's like saying kids who fall asleep in church don't know Jesus died. Kris knows who dies. And Kris chose for that person to be someone from their school, possibly specifically Susie, by opening the Dark World there. Since then Kris has become attached to Susie and doesn't want her to die, so they're straining against their situation a lot more. If Kris were in a timeloop they would already like Susie and not let things play out that way in Chapter 1.

Also stop being a faggot and greentexting only parts. Kris is the only one who knows everything that has happened up until now. Kris is the only one who was there at the Bunker when the vaguepostening happened. Use your brain. Kris got insider info, either then or sometime before then, and they've carried it up to this point without sharing it. To the point Asgore thought he was crazy for believing in Dark Worlds, despite Kris knowing perfectly well that they're real
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>>573903248
I meant to say I DO think all that
But I was also gonna say I don't think she is deserving of love
Got em mixeded up
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>>573903203
To be fair dramakino ending would be the best but Fox is obviously not doing that because it's a game for children
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>>573903151
Next chapter Seam will reveal that they can only make the Pure Crystal if your town's love level is maximum so the Twisted Sword is literally impossible to obtain
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>>573903203
It's how Mother 3 ends, anon. You haven't read the required materials for this course. Commit suicide NOW
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>>573902932
What I don’t get it, why does it matter whether or not one of the partners in the relationship is male? Can’t you just self-insert as one of the girls? I’ve never had any problem doing that, personally. I like Susie and I’ve never had any trouble immersing myself in the character of Noelle, imagining myself as her or whatever.
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>>573903302
>Since then Kris has become attached to Susie and doesn't want her to die
Krusie shipper detected
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I still cant believe Toby Fox somehow managed to cure my transphobia
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>>573903452
As we all know, people don't care if their friends live or die, they only care if it's someone they want to fuck.
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>>573903407
Misogyny
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abort2 or abort5 for the twistedsword?
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>>573902591
I love it anon, thank you for illustrating peak
I want Pink so bad...
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>>573903472
He’s making mine worse, I used to just not care
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>>573902378
Well in Live A Live the Knight protagonist becomes the new Dark Lord.

We've predicted for a long time Kris would become the "New Knight" and it's pretty one-to-one with this story.
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>>573903398
Wrong I've played Mother 3 and that's why I know it has you walk around and talk to NPCs in the dark postgame. Also Mother 3's ending is bad and sudden and one of the worst parts of it.
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>>573903535
Abort2 for the thorn ring, you dunce
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>>573901502
Hooman!
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What if Fave had risotto
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When the Mew Mew darkner is freaking out at the end of the battle, her dialogue boxes play the same sound effect as Kris' ominous phone call during CH4. What's the significance to this if any, Shadow Crystal fuckery? Or is it just a generic "static interference" sound. Any other instances of this SFX in the game?
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>>573903574
So in chapter 7 Kris beats the shit out of everyone and starts the Roaring?
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>>573903472
But Toby Fox made me less gay.
Before Deltarune chapter 5 I was looking at anime twinks with their dicks out every day.
Now I look at Aqua, Seth and Pink porn
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>>573903530
There is literally nothing in the game that shows Kris is attached to Susie to the extent that Krusie shippers imagine.
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>>573903591
but in the original game you can optionally freeze a bird and it doesn't soft lock you
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>>573903581
Well yeah anon I wasn't going to spoil that part. Nincompoop.
Anyway The Roaring is definitely going to happen in Deltarune, the game will just keep going for a while after
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>>573901735
>watch me fly, mama
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>>573902575
Why would Kris do this to me?
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>>573903681
You don't need to Freeze da bird
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>>573903636
Probably just meant to be a shared SFX because both are playing on speakers.
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>>573902591
also sorry for the double (You) but can you link me the fic? i wasn't around for that thread
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>Spamton fumbled all that
He deserves Friend trying to kill his ass.
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>>573903846
I could kill him in a single hit. Lay him in the dirt.
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>>573903681
The Mantle game is about the weird route and not any aborted route
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Taking into account everything we know about the characters and the world, realistically, what would be the best pairing for Ralsei? The one that brings him closest to that happy ending?
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>>573903650
Possibly! The prophecy seems like it will be extremely flexible. While the ending might be the same each time, the roles of each character might change.

Kris could be the hero standing against the roaring or the evil bastard who brings it about.
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>>573903668
I'm not a Krusie shipper, but I think you're mega retarded if you didn't realize by now that Kris thinks Susie is the best and would rather commit suicide by prophecy than let her die. Kris literally doesn't let you skip out on walking Susie home at the end of this chapter if you need evidence.
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>>573903920
A pack of swatchlings
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>>573903920
Susie, a person who cares about darkness.
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>>573903920
Kralsei because he's Krissexual and has no interest in anyone else
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>>573903920
Me
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>>573903905
If that were true you would have killed people in Hometown in Chapter 5 instead of being skipped to Chapter 7, out of bounds and unable to hurt them
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>>573903920
>The one that brings him closest to that happy ending?
The pairing wouldn't really matter in that regard. Ralsei's arc is about agency and independence, it's about being his own person first, and then he can pick whoever he wants.
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Bros I think Gerson was retarded and doesn't actually know anything
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Remember when Ralsusie was a thing? Back in chapter 1 when heterosexuality was on the table.
>>573903973
Can you not undermine my post, while the captcha keeps failing
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>>573903749
Cute aggression
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>>573903920
Flowsei, of course. Squabbling is an important feature of any healthy relationship. Flowery could fix him.
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Is this a Ghost Trick reference?
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>>573903920
>>573904124
Flowery's younger clone born from his corpse
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>>573903203
the game very conspicuously calls it "an ending"
the whole story is about struggling in vain against fate
if there's more than one ending, toby will have just been lying to us for 10 years
the game will end with kris/the soul dying no matter what but under radically different context than any typical fail state (sacrificing yourself to save the world vs dying to a random rabbick and giving up)
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>>573904092
he was a dead guy with super dementia, I don't know why you listened to him
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If you see Kris having a crush on Susie you must also admit he’s biologically a male because it’s another proof of how men and women can’t be just friends.
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>>573904045
His arc is about whatever Toby fox writes him to be, he is a character not a person and he has no agency, if I don't like what happens it's the dog's stupid writing's fault, not Ralsei's
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>>573904196
Anon Susie is extremely attractive to girls. She is in a lesbian relationship right now.
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>>573904124
Flowery will die on the first date
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>>573903905
The crafting recipe for the only notable sword is only for aborted routes.
The game doesn't start until you get the sword.
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>>573904169
He is defending his hot gamer gf
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People in this general will say "Kris uses they/them so the player can self insert onto them" as if Toby isn't hammering into your skull every chance he gets that Kris is NOT the player, NOT a self-insert, and is their own character with their own opinions and feelings and goals independent of (You). How are people still not getting this in Chapter 5 when we've seen them directly oppose us multiple times on-screen?
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>>573904169
Knight kneels before the true power.
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>>573904092
every parental figure has been beyond fucking useless so it checks out
hell every adult has been beyond fucking useless
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>>573901735
Psycho-looking Noelle is fun and all, but I like the pieces where her expression's more normal. The contrast with what she's doing and Kris' terror makes it all more unsettling
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>>573904242
That's a particularly autistic sentence
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>>573904169
The Roaring Knight has never felt more safe in its life.
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>>573904160
I hope not. This is the most unoriginal multi ending I've ever seen. Toby is above that imo
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>>573904306
It's ok anon. Retards will get filtered by the end. Trust the plan
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Since the last thread was nearing its end I'll post it again.

What was your initial first reaction to the weird route in chapter 5, anons?
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Raly is such a shitter
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>>573904270
Literally only one girl who’s clinically insane, others find her creepy
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>>573904092
What is he even supposed to know? He was there to inspire Susie and convince us to do our best to overcome fate, he didn't share some grand knowledge with us
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>>573904043
"Abort5" isn't actually aborted and is still part of the weird route
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i love my boy ralsei
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>>573903973
Their relationship is one of the strongest in the game, even if they are only friends I cherish all their scenes together.
>>573904045
On one side, yes. At the same time he is called 'the lonely prince' it's clear that he craves affection and intimacy, and he is addicted to being called cute. I don't want him to remain lonely.
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>>573904280
Nuh-uh! He has maximum stats.
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There's no shower in Castle Town. Susie must REEK.
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>>573904393
>Cheeto Rat is now online
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>>573904382
I didn't have one because I don't play weird route
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look at it
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>>573903920
Dustner Dess, who gets to live as princess of the dark
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>>573901735
>>573904325
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>>573904157
Yeah probably, Tenna is supposed to look like a Ghost Trick character and the whole segment is an Ace Attorney reference which is another Shu Takumi joint.
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>>573904393
raly call this poster a nigger
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>>573904464
don't say that, people get very defensive if you point out that susie probably smells real bad.
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>>573904396
You would describe Kris as a balanced individual with no sign of mental illness?

>>573904434
Then PROCEEDing with Noelle is a different route entirely. Choose which one is the Weird Route and stop using confusing language.
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>>573904382
Only villains play the weird route. I will never betray my friends.
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>>573903905
The mantle game doesn't map to the weird route at all.
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>>573904531
kill this fucking thing with a hammer
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>>573904440
>boy
Not too long
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>>573904382
It's not what I wanted, Noelle was mean and scary instead of hot and obsessed with me :c
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>>573904450
>even if they are only friends I cherish all their scenes together.
In my opinion thata what makes it so good. They are actual friends both growing alongside eachother
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>>573904620
taking?
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>>573904382
>this music is really interesting
>Noelle really is crazy, huh
>oh, weird route fans are going to be pissed that they got so little content.
>see you guys in 2030
I don't get overly worked up or like actually scared of DR though
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>>573903934
>I'm not a Krusie shipper
>but I think you're mega retarded if you didn't realize by now that Kris thinks Susie is the best and would rather commit suicide by prophecy than let her die

Imagine unironically saying these two things in the same sentence and still claiming not to be a Krusie fanboy.
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>>573904450
>On one side, yes. At the same time he is called 'the lonely prince' it's clear that he craves affection and intimacy, and he is addicted to being called cute. I don't want him to remain lonely.
Well, I'm biased towards Kralsei, I guess, since I believe every option is Kris' own, and that paints a picture of a very touching slowburn relationship. I can imagine the two just strargazing in Castle Town enjoying each other's company once there's a free minute.
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>>573903302
>"Kris is just too enlightened for the plebs at church even tho they never attend and sleep through when they do"
Picrel
>It's like saying kids who fall asleep in church don't know Jesus died
Except the bible describes Jesus's crucifixion 4 whole times and the death and resurrection of Christ comes up multiple times after that in the new testament. The delta rune prophecy is stated directly to be much more ambiguous and has pieces missing that make putting the whole thing together much more difficult.
>Kris knows who dies
So how can they change it if it's super specific? How did they come to this revelation and realize it was applicable to the coming days in their life? When did they prepare Susie to be sacrificed and in place of whom?
>If Kris were in a timeloop they would already like Susie
Picrel once again, two for one wow
>and not let things play out that way in Chapter 1
Genuinely don't know what this means. Not let what play out? Let Susie discover on her own that violence and raw strength isn't always the answer? Let Susie learn to trust? Save Susie from king?
>top being a faggot and greentexting only pa
I'm only grabbing the relevant bits to save on text limit
>Kris is the only one who knows everything that has happened up until now
Okay yes Kris likely saw the incident happen, why does that mean they know the prophecy better than the local pastor and actual parishioners?
>vaguepostening
At least I can be certain you're an illiterate retard now
>Kris got insider info, either then or sometime before then
Okay so is that how they learned the whole super vague prophecy in exact detail enough to actively try and avert it in the ~7 years between then and now or is it just because they're super duper smart?
>To the point Asgore thought he was crazy for believing in Dark Worlds
If Kris was there either Asgore knows Kris saw it too and doesn't like to talk about it or Kris was outside the dark world when Asgore went in.
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>>573901735

>>573904382
Low chuckling and satisfaction. Not what I expected, but I liked it right away.
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I hope the Weird Route ends in complete failure. Like, your evil plan doesn’t work and it was all for the nothing. The Worlds just get saved without you, or against your will. I want to see the suffering on streamer’s faces when they’re half dead on the ground and Susie is giving them the YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE speech
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>>573904160
>the game will end with kris/the soul dying no matter what
It seems more likely that the game will end when you give up. If you give up the first time you die to Jevil then that's the ending, if you give up after you play through the weird route 50 times in a row then that's the ending, etc. Even if you "die" you can just restart the game, so the only ending is one where you give up.
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>>573904591
when the vessel puh grippy but then it cuts yo cock clean off
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>>573904593
"Friends" who refuse to tell you the whole deal aren't my friends.
I hope these assholes suffer a LOT. This prophecy really needs to deliver the pain and misery, I demand to see it.
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opening a dark world in an abortion clinic
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>>573904595
You're not allowed to say that anon. It hurts the feelings of theoryfags who overinvested in a shitty rushed interpretation of the thing

>>573904682
Kris and Susie are friends. Friends take bullets for each other without a single bodily fluid exchange. I know I'm asking a lot from the clinically retarded but please make an effort
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>>573904652
its the same shit with the genocide route where you skip most of the games content but this time you dont get shitty grind walls to extent runtime anymore
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>>573904780
>none of the fetuses come alive because no one including their parents gave a fuck about them
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>>573904591
ohhhh... that's gore... that's gore of my comfort tv...
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>>573904382
i was happy noelle wasn't a puppet and a victim but an active player.
wondering about the meta ending, why a crt, what is a chapter in the world of deltarune?
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>>573904737
That would mean that my actions didn’t have any consequences and I didn’t waste 25 dollars by not playing half of the game
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honestly i think toby is holding something in his back pocket that will make susie/kris look like a joke. i mean whoever that knight is, they have a hold over kris, that is so ripe for shipshit it aches

>>573904737
i dont know why people got in their heads that the weird route is to save the world, it seems to just be doing it because you can. like modding skyrim so all the dragons have tits.
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how are people missing that Kris is using and lying to Susie
are they stupid
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>>573904773
>bulkin' out
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>>573904780
protein
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>>573904571
>Then PROCEEDing with Noelle is a different route entirely.
No? You go through the side B versions of chapters 5, 6, and 7 and then you go back to 5 with your save from 7 and continue proceeding. It's all one continuous route.
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>>573902958
>>573903006
>>573903543
Thanks, more on the way

>>573903857
Check my post again, it should have a link to the fic, its thread is still up in the archive.
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>>573904871
You should write down your thoughts and present them in a understandable manner
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>>573904828
I'm going with what my actual thoughts were at the time and I thought it was kinda lame that they were skipping effectively two chapters of content.

Also it reminded me of Inscryption
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I'm a flower fucker
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>>573901857
your bra strap is showing
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>>573904737
This is obvious to anyone with eyes. 7B will be a long painful cutscene of the fused Kris and Noelle dying in the roaring or whatever the calamity is. The sword route and Kris's actions make it clear that nothing good or reasonable will come of this
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>>573904780
abort ralsei
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>>573904828
>but this time you dont get shitty grind walls to extent runtime anymore
erm...
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>>573901502
Wow those waifus are so cute, is this gacha game f2p friendly?
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>>573904595
Not one-to-one but it forces you to freeze the blue bird and the post-Snowgrave alleyway with a manhole appears so it's more weird route than any other route we know about and it's definitely not abort2
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So what are the odds that Kris will crash out in ch6 and just drop every uncomfortable reveal at once for maximum drama?
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>>573901857
Would. Floradinns are probably the friendliest, most endearing creatures and I bet they give great hugs and feel great to hug.
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>>573905059
only the wealthiest whales will get beach body mew mew
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>>573901857
I want to fuck Pippins and Floradinn at the same time
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YOU WERE A CHOSEN ONE
IT WAS SAID THAT YOU WOULD END THE ROARING, NOT CAUSE IT
BRING BALANCE TO THE WORLDS, NOT LEAVE THEM IN DARKNESS
YOU WERE MY BEST FRIEND, KRIS
I LOVED YOU
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>>573904557
Oh shit I totally didn't make the Ace Attorney connection. I've just read before that Toby might've been partially inspired by Missile when making the Annoying Dog.
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>>573904780
Boss fight against Disbelief Jackenstein
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>>573901735
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>>573901857
I don't get it
Isn't she the hot gamer gf herself? Is she lesbian?
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>>573905059
No, you'll need to give Toby your Kromer if you want to get anywhere
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>>573901857
Her thighs squeezing you as you creampie her would feel so good.
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>>573904157
>>573904557
>>573905205
Would Flowery dance downstairs like Cabanela
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>>573905256
She's the gf the little guy wanted
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>>573901857
Hot and a Floradinn so she's a dumb bimbo, sure I would
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>>573905205
The Fun Gang has Ace Attorney cosplays in the trial act, it's cute
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(evil comment)
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>>573905359
Toxic goat
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Sans but he's secretly fucking Asgore while leading Toriel on
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If Undertale was released in chapters Mettaton would've skyrocketed in popularity with the Hotland chapter, like Tenna and Flowery did.
Instead he had to share the spotlight with motherfucking Sans and Papyrus. He didn't stand a chance.
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>>573902081
the find her dodge girl
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>>573905359
It was fucked up when he looked at Orange and said "you are a stupid flower pretending to be a disgusting rat. You should kill yourself"
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>>573905412
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>>573905453
He lives in our hearts regardless
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>>573902687
>I just can’t respect him as a man.
would you respect him as a woman?
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YOU STUPID UGLY LONG EARED HATLESS FREAK
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>>573905457
I mean, I guess I agree but it could've been summarized in like 2 sentences.
>Noelle struggles with the repetitive mundanity of her life due to being programmed as an NPC and is desperate to feel like she has any control over her life
like that
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why does toby get mad at the hat
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The Weird Route was your one chance to be a big shot and you blew it.
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>>573905526
Pink is justified in strapping C4 to Ralsei's chest for this
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>>573905217
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>>573905359
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>>573905287
>Gay
>Smug
>In love with a disgraced ex-policeman
Flowery is just Cabanela huh
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>>573905457
Pretty much
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All in on Kerdly
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>>573905457
The paragraphs above are true but she also does like hurting people
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>>573905641
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>>573904160
>the game very conspicuously calls it "an ending"
Yes oddly specific wording from Toby there, I wonder if he's used it before
>if there's more than one ending, toby will have just been lying to us for 10 years
Idk how people dont get this still but the whole point will be creating a series of events to "get past" the current ending where Kris and everyone else die during the calamity. Weird route is just speedrunning to the point and we've yet to see if it will really work and we'll have the power to change things on a normal route. In Undertale all the endings where you don't fulfill the property and "empty the underground" result in frisk not really escaping the underground because their save will always load up right before Asgore again. We either have to do genocide (at which point the game "ends" because Chara destroys the world and closes off our access to it until we strike a bargain) or do true pacifist where we see the actual credits and Flowey will ask us to not reset the timeline because that's the only way we can actually interact with the world. Flowey even asks to make sure his memories get erased too because he knows he wouldn't be able to play the role he needs to to make those events come to fruition anymore
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>>573904923
perfection, thanks broski
keep up the great work
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>>573905630
Do you think Toby is speaking through Orange or what? He just thinks it’s kinda funny that everyone wants Ralsei to put a hat on. Like they want him to put a bag over his head. It’s funny as fuck. Ralsei torment gives me pleasure
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>>573905635
Demolition cat avenged her totally normal human sister during that fight
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>>573905585
Yes if she had balls, like Omocat who has admitted she’s shotacon. If she was a coward, no, but I could accept that female-typical acceptance seeking behavior.
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Are musical animatics still in vogue
I unfortunately had an idea for one
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>>573905453
We'd be dealing with tranny bullshit related to him, are you out of your mind
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Deltarune sometimes likes to overtly explains things to your face but it also sometimes reveals information discreetly for you to piece together.
This leads to one group of people to think all information has to be spelled out so they ignore subtext, and another group to overthink things that were really matter of fact.
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>>573902081
based on the random Chirico on the whiteboard
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>>573902687
>>573905918
Even if Toby was a pedo (he's not) why would he ever admit it lmao. Dumb fuck
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>the characters are struggling with the fact that they're on the path of an unbreakable prophecy that dictates how their lives will play out
>the characters are struggling with the fact that they are inside of a videogame forced to follow a script that they can never break out of
>kris is struggling with the fact that their life and body are on the hands of a being outside of their control and they seemingly cannot be truly free without the risk of death
>the player is struggling with the fact that their choices don't seem to matter as the ending will be the same regardless
ok but what does all of this mean
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>>573906006
To prove his worth as Japanese dev he wants to be.
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>>573905960
There's also a lot of people who have a bad sense for when a character is lying, so they take lies as fact and cast doubt on truths.
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>>573904828
You don't have to play through an unchanged version of Hotland and the Core.
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>>573904382
It was thrilling.

Seeing Kris broken and being unable to comment on anything, and having to be forced out of bed...

Susie trying her best to help cheer up her clearly tormented friend...

Happy Town was so unsettling. Great way to reflect despair and a short delay to a terrible fate.

Noelle's monologue was excellent. Truly seemed like a broken girl trying to salvage some meaning from her horrible fate. Once the guitar riff kicked in, it felt so fucking sinister I was giddy. I like being the bad guy.

Walking into the lake... rapid proceeding preventing the drowning... it felt magical in a very dark way.

And then.... I fucking got the wind taken out of my sails. Continued in CHAPTER 7?! I have to wait 2+ years for the conclusion?! Fuuuuuuuuck.....

It was great and left me with despair.
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>>573906024
It's all analogous for real life where you have no control over anything and live your life at the mercy of systems. Video games are both an escape from this reality and a reflection of it because humans process their experiences through the act of play. Deltarune is just a more overt take on this universal truth.
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>>573906024
Did you know
That in the real world
There are systems of control?
Circumstances and events out of your power?
That you are made to live a certain life as a certain person in a certain place and time?
What do you think the right way to respond to that is
What is “freedom” anyways
Ask yourself these questions, then go play Chapter 5 again and pay attention to the Flowers
There is a similarity being pointed out between games and reality, between the status of game characters and real people. This isn’t a totally new thought, people in the past have compared themselves to characters in books or stage plays
Maybe you can’t have ultimate protagonism like in Undertale, maybe your choices don’t change the whole world forever
Even so, do they matter? Do they change the texture and quality of your life? Do they develop and express your individuality?
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bad OP
brown people are not attractive
she should be grey
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>>573904531
Will be actually dissappointed if the dummy face was just a Ghost thing and they go away completely. They're what made me fall in love with Mad. I know some of her intense expressions are part of Pink and her overworld sprites but I need my wife's thick eyebrows and stupid angry eyes....
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>>573904595
The second board is clearly about the weird route. Theoryschizos and weirdfags are just seething that the weird route actually does just end with Kris and noelle being "used up" and we're not getting le epic vessel sans gaster battle
>"but the other two boards"
Not a secret third route that's retarded cope. The other two boards are just different memories of different timelines kris lived. The golden cactus/golden flower seed parallel in chapter 5 makes this clear because we obviously never get the seeds in the weird route. The first board is Kris literally breaking the boundaries alone until they get "the ice key" (ie the knowledge of needing Noelle to really break things) and then board 2 is Kris and Noelle getting "used up" to get the shelter key. On board 3 you have to kill Ralsei and Susie to get a chance to use that key (knowledge) and the only way to avoid that is to kill yourself with the cactus (flower seeds) and disengage with the game
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>>573906024
Deltarune isn't "Player bad for playing the game"
It's "Author bad for making the game"
Toby is admitting he's the bad guy for creating fiction where characters suffer and have no choices and the player has no choices. The point of the game is to spread the idea the author should be ignored and you should make fanfiction.
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>>573901896
I was like that as a kid and I’m a girl
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wokies try everything to victimize strong women and make them not accountable

noelle isn't a victim, we make her worse but she indulges in it
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>>573905863
he should've made his sprite look less like a discord groomer google dockey fursona
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>>573904806
>Friends take bullets for each other
Describe in your own words what bullet Susie is taking for Kris
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>>573905487
Really good. She looks a little like a lioness actually
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>>573901896
She acts like a girl though.
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>>573905487
this is really pretty, I like her vacant expression a lot
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>>573906362
>>573906376
>>573906439
Move foward with these answers.
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>>573906401
black pussy desu
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>>573904393
real
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>>573905487
Gorgeous
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fucking rat. ywnbah
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kris that ungrateful fuck should be keeling over for me, would still be a loser if it weren't for my b.s.c. big soul cock
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>>573901896
>walks like a dude
this is why nobody takes you self inserting faggots seriously
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>>573905979
>Fucking Votoms in my Youteegee
Neat.
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i dont fucking get why toby wants you to get invested in the characters and story while stuff like the weird route implies that the world exists entirely in its own bubble and there is no greater world it takes place in like how Noelle feels like she lives in a loop and wants to escape, and stuff in the code is called DEVICE.
These are two fundamentally contradictory ideas. If you accept the latter it renders the former meaningless. The story doesn't exist independently of the game.
You can't have suspension of disbelief while having your story culminate in 'its fake.'
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>>573906662
yeah, unfortunately very gross
she is the color of poop and the colors artists choose are always grody
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Aqua getting tongued by Kawkaw
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>>573902791
fascinating motion...
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>>573905939
is mettaton relevant or has toby completely forgotten him and replaced him. make up your fucking minds utg
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>>573906892
Without love it cannot be seen
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>>573906892
It's a pretty simple message, actually. Life is meaningless, we all die in the end, the universe doesn't give a shit about you. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't keep trying to live your best life. It's literally Flowery's ideals in a nutshell.
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>>573906969
It's on me for clicking the link without reading the whole post
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>>573906892
nigga they’re not actually real people, do you understand that?
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>>573905979
Okawara Knight... Powerful...
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Im too much of a brainlet for all the layers of meta fuckery. Can someone explain the relationship between the player and the soul and chara and frisk and kris? Thank you in advance
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Normal route will probably have a non-ending that doesn't resolve anything like neutral in UT but without even the phone call epilogue, so it can't be considered a real ending. Normal route+optional content like shadow crystals and weird route will both lead to the true ending, with weird route acting as a shortcut that adds a negative tone to the otherwise happy-or-bittersweet ending. Like eating the snowman piece in front of the Snowman in TP, but more severe. There, your choices matter but there's still only one ending.
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10 YEAR OLDS FOR THE CUNNY MAN
IS WAITING FOR THE TOUCH OF HER HAND
SLIDING IN CUNNIES WITHOUT A PLAN
LIKE THE EVERY DAILY

WISH I CREAMPIED THE CUNNY-CHAN
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>>573907020
Toby disliked how Mettaton came out in Undertale, so he has repurposed pieces of him into better, more interesting characters like Spamton and Tenna.
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>>573906892
the purpose is literally in your whiny diatribe
you are meant to look for meaning and hope even in a hopeless situation, it is a story about the power of accepting reality as it is
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>>573907205
why would toby feverdream something so milquetost
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>>573906969
I draw the line at lewding Kawkaws you are way out of line mister *Goes Sans mode* er er er er er bad time kiddo
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Made for consensual and gentle homosexual intercourse
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The Weird Route has the Player winning (because we destroy the world).
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>>573902019
Heh that's my post . I was on some bs that day
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>>573907267
This is confirmed
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>>573906892
I can't understand this mindset at all. Do you not care about any of the Darkners?
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Noelle will get fatter.
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>>573907173
The player is you, the soul is your in-game avatar, Kris is a separate person you’re possessing via the avatar, frisk and chara we don’t know yet
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>>573906969
I like her frantic tummy breathing. OC?
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>>573907078
What's the point of the Weird route then, rebeling against your inevitable demise only makes things worse?
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>>573907020
He’ll make Tenna and Spamton fuse with Mettaton so anyone who still cares about those characters can have their tranny headcanons fulfilled
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>>573907267
he's attracted to a non-binary character so he's not gay. he's bi/pan at best
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>>573907246
Even Mettaton's backstory of finding a body that suits him has been repurposed and greatly improved upon with Pink.
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>>573907143
I'm certainly no artist, but I pushed through by sheer stubbornness
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>>573907252
>it is a story about the power of accepting reality as it is
We don't know that yet. The game isn't even done.
If that actually is what the game is about, that's a fucking stupid message for a story to have.
Stories should exist to uplift people. If that ends up being the culmination of the entirety of Deltarune, when Chapter 7 comes out people are going to be fucking pissed at the ending.
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>>573907254
The ending itself will still be a fever dream, I'm just talking about the path to get there. He only dreamed the ending, you know. The rest of the game is just built around it.
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>>573906892
The people in hometown are real but hometown itself is some kind of simulation. It's not the "original" hometown that sans is from and was trying to get back to
>>573907105
The whole point of the series is to treat the world and story and characters with integrity and to let yourself care about something even if it's "not real." Toby has said before that the game's boundaries are just "the limits to what you can do in a day" and the anniversary stream hammered that home hard. Hometown seemingly having an outer boundary isn't meant to contradict this, it's meant to communicate that something is very very wrong in hometown
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>>573902591
So sick bro, I love Pink too much. Gonna re-read that now.
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>>573907387
Weird Route is freedom for its own sake, pretty much what all the Crystal schizos got that made them insane. It's getting blackpilled to such an extent that it poisons your very existence and even if you achieve freeddom, it's not gonna make your life better. It's like if an elder god told you exactly what the meaning of life was and it drove you crazy. Sometimes it's better not to know.
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>>573907246
because the wokies didnt let him go with his original plan
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>>573907363
I think Frisk works by the same rules Kris does but is more malleable because they're chill like that and/or because they're being haunted by Chara's ghost
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>>573907471
when Chapter 7 comes out americans will no longer have food
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>>573902880
>Kris sleeps through mass and only goes for the fruit juice
I'm too tired to keep track of this argument but that fucking kid always stays up all night, of course they crash.
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>>573907374
No, it's by "yohobitch" on the atf booru
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>>573907354
Darkners are just imaginary friends. Tenna is just a TV the characters projected feelings onto. He doesn't have life, he embodies the feelings and nostalgia Kris and their family built up over the years. All darkners are just a reflection of the lightners that made them, they have no authonomy, they have no soul, they don't matter and never mattered.
Do you also feel bad because you'll throw away your old TV you have no use for anymore?
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Be nice
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>>573906892
The game itself addresses this. Susie has a better understanding of this subject than you do, you should be embarrassed.
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>>573907575
mettaton and kris need to get married in chapter 7 or i'm burning down tobysoft for false advertisement
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>>573907564
Look Outside did this message but way better.
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>>573907575
The Toby who thought it was a good idea to have Mettaton pretend to marry Frisk temporarily possessed current Toby and forced him to make Mettaton's cousin kiss Kris
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>>573906892
Nigga you may as well killerize yourself to death if you haven't gotten past highschool level nihilism
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>>573907791
it's okay. mettaton is for noelle.
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Kris is a cuck, a traitor, controlled by Carol and the Knight, accepting everything for a promise.
Lol imagine being them
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Frisk = Girl
Kris = Boy

Deep down you know this to be true
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>>573907791
It’s okay because it’s oneshota
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Seth teaching Aqua how to make her ginny tingle and make the sparkles dance in front of her eyes
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>>573907761
I don't care much for Look Outside
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>>573907354
The Darkners exist in a magical world where they come to life through the power of magic darkness. The Dark World is a rule of the greater world of the story. This is a part of the games independent world canon, something that is meant to be taken like how we can believe Middle Earth is a place that has a history.
If the story's ultimate purpose is that it's just a fucking video game, all of this is rendered meaningless.
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>>573906574
She's dying at the end of the prophecy
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>>573907628
You fundamentally disagree with the viewpoint the game presents in every chapter so far so don't be surprised when the ending is something you also fundamentally disagree with
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>>573907564
The correct response is to say "Lol I don't believe you" and then go do something else cooler
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>>573906892
The entire point is questioning how you can care about something when you know it's fake.
That's one of the major themes of the game. You know going in that you're playing a game, Toby is asking you why you care if you know that and at what point do you stop caring and what happens when you stop. This is what Gaster's experiment is, it's testing your ability to be invested in something you know isn't real and the real emotions that can come from it.
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>>573907438
>no artist
Thoust did art, then thoust art one.
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People talk about Noelle's evil cat collection but what I'm worried about are all the dented and abandoned instruments in Dess's room
If Shadow Crystals are all based on Lost Dreams and abandoned Darkners like King become unruly and bitter then what does that mean for Darkners of items that Dess apparently dreamed about getting good at and then tossed out and moved to the next one
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>>573907939
dont ever read swamp thing, it'll melt your mind
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this was her sprite for a second when susie told her kris flirts with everyone btw
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Just like pirate Gaster, Noel has also left /utg/ containment
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holy fuck the battat fingering sequence on the whiteboard GAAAAWWD DDD
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>>573907628
>Do you also feel bad because you'll throw away your old TV you have no use for anymore?
Yes? Do you understand the concept of sentimental value?
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>>573907697
What does Susie say about this that I'm forgetting?
Your telling me I should be embarrassed for caring about the story I payed 25 dollars for. Do enlighten me.
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The game is about the fact that people feel their choices don’t matter because they don’t change the whole world like in Undertale when really they have tremendous unimaginable significance because they completely transform your own life and the lives of those around you. From the beginning, freedom had nothing to do with breaking the prophecy. You’ve always been free even within the system of control. The literal determined sequence of events doesn’t matter. Assume Kris dies. In the normal route they go out beloved like a badass surrounded by friends and family after overcoming all their issues and inspiring everyone to overcome any issues that may come their way. In the weird route Kris dies alone like a bitch a mess of complexes and mental illnesses as Susie glares coldly at you for mindraping her girlfriend and spits on your corpse, everyone’s lives just get worse now there are two horrible tragedies plaguing the subconscious mind of Hometown and everyone is miserable. The scenario, the broad strokes don’t change but literally everything is different
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>>573908021
>cue Cthulhu shaking his fist angrily at you as you skateboard away
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>>573904382
I was disappointed that was all since chapter 5 had seemed to be built up to be the HUGE weird route chapter after being teased for 3 and 4 but then you're put off until the final chapter instead. I guess it was huge but it was short.
it was still an extremely kino scene, best in the game
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>>573908105
If you attach sentimental value to everything, you'll become a hoarder treating objects like friends. Letting go of things is also important. Sometimes objects are just objects.
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>>573908156
Finna go fuck one of those gross ass octopus headed fish women. Show me what that sucker do baby hahah- AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
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why is kris helping the knight
tell me
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>>573904871
>how are people missing that Kris is using and lying to Susie
This isn't mutually exclusive with thinking of them as a friend and/or crush. Characters planning to pull that shit only to get attached is practically the default for stories with that sort of thing.
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The game is about how you're stupid for paying 25 dollars for an incomplete game
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>>573908230
he as groomed
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>>573907939
Dark worlds aren't a separate magical world, they are an alternative view of the light world. You enter the magic circle of the fountain and accept that what you see there is real in the ways that matter, and likewise you boot up deltarune.exe and accept that what you see there is real in the ways that matter. Even if you know Tenna is just a TV and Susie is just lines of code.
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>>573908230
Frens
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>>573908230
they've conspired to fulfill the letter of the prophecy while minimizing the damage it causes
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>>573908117
this kind of retarded 'i paid money so i am owed' mindset is why toby made the first two chapters free. if you spent hours playing it then discussing it, the game has more than paid for itself.
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>>573908070
>another twink
nyooo...
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>>573908069
Yeah that's part of her crying animation cycle.
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>>573908117
>* ... But yeah, maybe it's not real. The dark world.
>* (I just wish Ralsei would realize...)
>* (That doesn't matter to me so much.)
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>>573907628
Joseph Bulkin, please don't make your sociopathic lack of empathy our problem.
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>>573908194
Yeah but sometimes they're not. The point is something doesn't need to have literal functional observable or objective value in order to be valuable, or purposeful.
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>>573908230
the knight pedophile groomed him on amino
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>>573908315
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>>573908070
rule63 has always been a thing, anon.
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>>573907564
Spamton already perfectly outlines the weird route: the pursuit of power for "freedom" at any cost and falling short.
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I don't understand why the game needs two layers of irreality attached to it. It's already working with the mechanics of engaging in Dark Worlds where they're fake but your experiences in the fantasy of it matters. Making the Dark Worlds double fake and the Light World also fake lessens the impact of one and reduces the meaning of the latter.
At that point might as well make it all a dream and Kris is in a coma or something because it would pack the same weight
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>>573908029
I could accept that it was fake if it wasn't taking over a decade of real time to make.
This is intrinsically pointless because the emotions you feel may as well be fake also. That's the same for every story, but most stories are also flagrantly dangling it like keys in your face.
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>>573908069
Fuck Kris, I would treat her right
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>>573908230
the knight wants to get out of the prophecy as well and it's getting something it wants (Freedom) in exchange for muh doe
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I think it's really impressive how the new chapter manages to frame Ralsei's situation so perfectly. He's trying SO HARD to pretend to be something that when he sees the flowers being less than perfect in their human disguises it makes him assmad as hell. He hates Orange the most for being the worst and the most confident in that shitty disguise, something he could never be. He will turn out to be demonspawn from hell and people will feel more betrayed about him having a pussy or wanting one. Humanity is fucking retarded
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>>573908410
>We just keep stacking layers of B's on
Inception 2.0....
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>>573905937
I'm still getting a few tossed at me by YouTube so I guess.
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Toby = Girl
Temmie = Boy

Deep down you know this to be true
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why would anyone play Deltarune when you can just play Luigi's Mansion
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>>573908410
The Dark Worlds literally dreams. Video games are dreams. Even so, do they matter? If you answer in the negative, all play and imagination is a waste of time
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>>573908415
>May as well
But they're not. You still get and feel something otherwise you wouldn't bother
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Sex with Yellow and then taking back my consent after so he kills himself
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>>573904382
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my hero is problematica media
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>>573908458
you're right and you should say it
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>>573907420
non-binary character with a penis
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>>573908415
>This is intrinsically pointless because the emotions you feel may as well be fake also.
The point is that the emotions are real! Even if what causes those emotions is "fake" the emotions themselves and how it makes you feel is important and real. That's Toby's message, if that doesn't connect with maybe you just don't like Deltarune that much.
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>>573908230
he wants to feel that exact warm doeussy again
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All I could think about at work todaz was meaty footlong ralsei cock and fluffy Noelle cleavage and bush..
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>>573908563
Life could be a dream...
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>>573908230
Kris is Donnie Darco and the Knight is Frank the rabbit.
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>>573906867
it's true. cope and seethe
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>>573908538
Cause the ghosts are hotter than in Luigi's Mansion.
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Shadow crystals' text in ch1-4:
>Nothing interesting, just Light World version of the Dark World you in
In chapter 5:
>Noelle out of thin air

???
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Floral scented cunny... Do you think the folds of her labia feel like petals
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>>573908230
Dess doe pussy, what else?
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>>573901502
friend mogs tf out of them it's crazy
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>>573908774
Kris is having a lot of complex thoughts ok?
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>>573908678
>with a penis
uhh i'd really like to verify that. where's proof?
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>>573908563
I like when stories treat its stakes seriously because they're real to the characters and it matters to them, so it will matter to me. I don't want them questioning if their own life matters or not.
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>>573908678
you dont know that

also if you were attracted to a trans woman with a penis that wouldn't make you game. genitals are far from the end all be all
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>>573908678
NB DICKGIRL KRIS!!!!! !!!! !!!
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i wish i could draw…
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call it cheesy but I hope there's something big with Ralsei in 7B. He should snap that you're fucking up the prophecy this much and stop holding back like we know he is
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>>573908785
I think petals would be her bush, if she had any, which she of course doesnt because its a BALD ass mound. Her labia probably feels more like a stems texture..
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>>573908857
it's literally in my mouth right now
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>>573908693
Maybe they should be fake.
We're talking about a guy who had a craaaaazzzy dream one time and that compelled him to spend chunks of his life on an art project.
I have crazy dreams sometimes. That doesn't mean they mean anything either.
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>>573908858
>There's too much existentialism in my existentialism game
Play something else man
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>>573908883
7B is literally going to be Kris and Noelle freezing/killing everyone else genocide route style.
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>>573908931
I'm gonna, not before writing down my review the story sucks and it's a ten year wait disappointment sandwich
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>>573908761
keep malding over the sanctity your pwecious headcanons, selfinsertfag
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it's interesting that we used to theorize that it must be agonising for kris to realise other people like the demon possessing their body more than they like them. before we knew they have worse problems going on
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>>573908678
that's a fat cameltoe
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>>573908739
Like this is just the difference between Augustine and Plato
In all classical theistic metaphysical systems this world is less real than the divine intellectual reality that is unconstrained by any material substratum
Plato says therefore this world is an illusion empty of intrinsic meaning and we should strive to live a life as detached from it as possible so our souls can be freed from it at death
Augustine says that while yes this world is less real than the divine reality it is made in the image of that divine reality and therefore intrinsically valuable in itself; like all Christian thinkers his view of eternity is an embodied one that follows a physical resurrection
Same basic framework radically different valuation
The weird route is platonic-gnostic-negative while the normal route is platonic-augustinian-affirmative
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>>573908458
yes, having a pussy is worse than being the spawn of the devil
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>>573908458
I never understood this point of view. I mean, parts of it are correct, but for some reason people really wanna exaggerate it. Ralsei does gets mad at Flowery and there is some jealousy involved, but Flowery also acts like a dick towards him. The Orange situation in particular is a big misunderstanding, which is exactly why they both apologize to each other. As for the rest of the lowers, Ralsei doesn't really get mad at them.
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>>573908410
>Making the Dark Worlds double fake and the Light World also fake lessens the impact of one and reduces the meaning of the latter.
This is also the same site where there are multiple AIslop and chatbot generals, you’ll see people here defend this because they love being slathered in inauthentic shit
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>>573908913
how are you posting here then
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>>573908129
I disagree with this. Decisions made in the light world are consistently portrayed as having no consequences at all, not even minor ones. I think the idea is that fiction is a space where you can do things that make you feel important to deal with the fact that nothing you do in real life is important because everyone else is also living their life just the same as you and they aren't gonna turn on a dime because you stole their chocolates instead of helping with their budding romance. Most people outside of Dess's family don't care that she's gone, but no one outside of Snowy's family cares that his mom died either. Everyone has their own life to live, but in fiction you can take the role of someone that's actually important to other people.
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>>573908506
https://youtu.be/zvfW-qqQ7iI?is=OnGcP48mUtqywA3Q
I was listening to this and got visions in my head about the aborted weird route
Or just Kris and SOUL in general
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I like anime girl FRIEND but I still see the hunting cats as male so they can have a barbed penis for raping their prey, although futa is alright too.
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Noelle is the type of girl to be type 1 diabetic but not make a big deal out of it
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>>573908883
Raly's gender reveal will be the most interesting thing about (her) character and that's that, sorry you expected anything cool
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>>573908968
And then when its all over they realize that the time loop is going to reset and the only way to keep going is for Noelle to become the knight and travel back in time to the beginning to replay the events of the game again and again forever.
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>>573908858
Anon there have been characters struggling with that since chapter 1. Did you miss Seam and Jevil? I guess you'd prefer the protagonists ignore all that and just go on "saving the world" brainlessly like in every other videogame ever. Fuck you
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>>573908868
It makes you gay af and that's okay
t. ranny
>>573908882
You can anon, you can do anything you set your mind to. I've been teaching myself piano and learning songs from Undertale has been highly motivating
>>573908883
Ralsei won't be there because you've already fucked everything up. Kris is fucking dead anon. The prophecy isn't "fucked up" our path to its ending is and we put Kris and Noelle through this torture and killed Berghley for nothing
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>>573908858
>I like when stories treat its stakes seriously because they're real to the characters and it matters to them,
You think Susie Gaster isn't taking her story seriously and that it doesn't matter to her? She's so invested in it. The only part of the game that has anyone questioning it is the deliberately more meta weird route, where the meta angle is diegetically built into the game and story by all the weird steps you have to take to unlock it where you are actively treating the game more as a game and less as a story.
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>>573901920
NOBODY YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS FSGFOY
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Ralseifags, is this really your fluffyboy???
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>>573908994
Teto's.
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>time poop
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get yanked
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>>573909131
Black catgirls with huge barbed futa dicks... You can't put an idea like that in my head anon, you'll drive me crazy
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>>573909061
trvthnuke
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>>573908883
Ralsei has no other purpose in this game anymore except come out as tranny so Twittertards won’t lynch Toby, Noelle even tells Rudy her party in Dragon Blazers no longer has fire mage which Ralsei now is.
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>>573907267
>gentle
Yeah I don't think so
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>>573906969
I want fave to do this to me... and then I would be able to die without any regrets
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>>573909041
And then thankfully some millenia later science was inventes and Neitzsche wrote beyond good and evil and humanity began the slow process of existing in the real world instead of a fantasy land of make believe in their own minds.
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>>573909272
i loved ralsei being an asshole here. but also the sprites eyebrows made me think of that one angry chud memeface, do you know the one i mean
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>There's discussion happening. Quick! Dump the ass folder!!!
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i keep remembering things i did as a child
is there a way to kill myself but without dying so i stop remembering cringe and stop being cringe forever
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>>573909024
you're literally proving OP's point faggot
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>>573909358
Thank you for your contribution
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Is Flower Man actually the best track toby has ever made?
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>deltarune is about le gender
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>>573909376
Kris's ass is load bearing to this thread
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If Dess is the knight it's just Toby doing Undertale again and that would be lame
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>>573908650
I actually think its kinda cute that toby defended so sorry even tho that guy was mad AT tobyy iirc
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>>573909272
Hell yeah
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>>573909386
forgive yourself, everyone has done something retarded in the past

>>573909449
i preferred weird route monologue
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>>573909060
Ralsei isn't misunderstanding anything, he just thinks it's dumb that a mouse thinks it's a human. Orange is misunderstanding things only insofar as she is kinda retarded and she still doesn't understand what she did wrong even when she apologizes.
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>>573909386
I cosplayed sans when I was at a local con with an homemade costume that really sucked ass with like a hundred of people in front of me and it gave me stage fright anon it could be worse
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>>573909261
I think it matters a lot to her and I like it. I like when characters fight like it means to them and it's something I can feel inspired for my own life. If the diegetic meta awareness the Light World isn't real in the Weird Route I'll have to ignore the Weird Route altogether because it's lessening my experience of the Normal Route
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>>573908785
Ask Kawkaw. He knows
>>573906969
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>>573909376
I hadn't thought of that, great idea!
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>>573909272
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I can't give a shit about Deltarune or it's artistic message. I have to work later in the real world where there is no magic or hot lizard women.
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>>573909449
TSUCHI NO
OKU E
NE WO HARI
SEKAI WO MIRU
SORA NI
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>>573908968
You left Hometown. You can't hurt them anymore

>>573909041
What this christcuck anon is trying to say is that escapism is intrinsic to human life because the world sucks. He's wrong because Deltarune is actually preaching that you should accept ultimate reality and still have compassion and emotionality. Create and consume fiction to cope, never forgetting that it is fiction, but also not forcibly making it inferior to you because it's fiction. The stories we make are more important than the breaths we take.
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>>573909547
no
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>>573909203
>chapter 6 might be a hospital dark world
>but chapter 5 is confirmed to be the last silly fun chapter
>chapter 5 closed out a ton of game-long gimmicks and easter eggs
>there likely won't be any cute mini games like a dr Mario/puyo puyo clone
It's fucked up and it's not fucking fair
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>>573909426
whining isn't going to change that your "evidence" is all headcanon based on self inserting interpretation
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>>573909449
Not even top 15 toby tracks
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>>573909272
Anyone that tells my boy to put the hat on deserves a Firestorm in the face
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>>573909272
This is how Ralsei will speak to the player when he no longer has to pretend to tolerate you by the way
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>>573908773
OH YES they are...
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>>573909671
Toby is also really good at dark humor
There may be a Fuck Up & Evil Dr. Mario minigame
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>>573908650
>against antis
What's wrong with being against those retards who bitch about you writing literally anything that isn't completely sterile because they can't separate reality from fiction?
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>>573909671
we know for a fact chapter 6 does have a gimmick

i'm guessing 7 will have no new gimmicks and will just be a 'recap' type thing
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>>573909261
To expand on this, how fucked up would the weird route be if you were a player heavily invested in the world of the game who saw it as real. It would be totally unjustifiable right? you might not rape the doe but your mind breaking of her definitely crosses some kind of moral line. The only acceptable reason for doing the weird route is if you acknowledge on some level that you're playing a game.
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>>573909272
I've always disliked Ralsei unironically
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>>573909693
>>573909449
God I miss 'My castle Town'
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it would be really cool if there was a light world battle in deltarune at some point and it used the undertale battle ui, but we all know toby is too cowardly to ever do such a thing
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>>573909561
The entire thing pretty much started with an innocuous comment that made Orange mad and kinda went downhill form there. Ralsei is kinda at fault here for letting his anger get the best of him, but in his defence, it's something he just started getting the hang of, and it's not some calcualted malice.
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>>573909272
yes that’s my passive aggressive bitch wife thank you for posting him
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>>573909671
Wait for the official UTDR Petal Crash spinoff
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>>573909060
Ralsei is looking down on Orange for being a mouse instead of a human, because he knows better and would never be caught dead making that same mistake. He studied extensively to put on the mask he puts on and prays every day that it will lead to happiness for someone, even if it's not him, because he can't be confident in any aspect of his life
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>>573909704
Shadow ralsei looks much much better
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>>573909710
i would prefer it. all of Ralsei's attempts to curry favor with me were based on a flawed premise (that i give a fuck about cute fluffy boys) or did not work
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>>573909485
Chapter 5 has done irreparable damage to deltarune. Can't wait for chapter 6 and hopefully move on.
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>>573909764
>To expand on this, how fucked up would the weird route be if you were a player heavily invested in the world of the game who saw it as real. It would be totally unjustifiable right? you might not rape the doe but your mind breaking of her definitely crosses some kind of moral line.
But I WANT to be the cosmic horror doing horrible things
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>>573909449
not at all, literally every other boss, battle theme and even stage music mogs it hard
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>>573909932
My cock says differently so you are wrong.
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>>573909710
If the prophecy is unchangeable and inevitable why did Ralsei bother trying to appease the player in the first place?
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>>573909690
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>>573909710
This is arousing.
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Must be contrarian hours lol
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Maddie and Asgore's first date
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>Ralsei is inverse Flowey
>He goes from being a cute adorable boy to some fucking dickhead asshole by the end of the story
This is just evil Ralsei from the Chapter 1/2 era all over again.
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>>573909485
>An Anal
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>>573909659
>You left Hometown. You can't hurt them anymore
We will see about that. Hurting my playthings again is always one press of the new game button away.
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>>573909659
The message of Undertale 2 is not going to be that the world sucks and we have to escape it through fantasy and our choices genuinely don’t matter in any sense. It’s going to be that EVERY LEVEL in the metaphysical hierarchy Toby has constructed matters deeply. Even Flowery, who was all for show, he MATTERED. Like, I’m two layers of reality removed from Lancer but I fucking love that little guy, he matters, he has made so many of my days better and inspired me to be a positive force and a source of fun and joy in other people’s lives
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>>573909748
Dr Mario Fucking Kills You
>>573909759
>we know for a fact chapter 6 does have a gimmick
When I say "gimmick" I don't mean like climbing and the feather I mean like all the cutesy fun stuff like the water coolers and the floradinn/rudinn dynamic. Also chapter 6 will likely have no new gameplay gimmick since toby said it's been "easier to make" we will likely just be seeing climbing and platforming expanded on. We will probably get the patience soul mode since he gave special note to discussing implementing bullet patterns for the boss fight.
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I think when talking about what Weird Route "means" it's important to keep in mind the whole Kris-Player connection and the "Your love will become theirs, their love will become yours" spiel
Like I'm not sure I can buy any reading that it's the Player breaking out or something when all I'm doing is pressing the Proceed button that Kris keeps putting in front of me
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>>573910082
>Millennial Woes
jeetcore type of name
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XydZnDaYsk
>Are you enjoying my sisters company? Huh?
>She gonna destroy the prophecy with you?
>You are so HECKED Kris
>CMON KRISMAS
>SAY THE WOOORD
>LETS GO PROCEED
>PROCEEEEED!
>ominous_worse.ogg
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>>573910082
NTA did they close your thread on /v/ again? Is that why you come here looking for your echo chamber?
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>>573909915
Some of his insecurities may be involved, but considering that Orange is not the most pleasant person to talk to and he's coming off of being bullied by Flowery, I don't blame him.
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>draw krisico last night
>wake up to pippina and a black-bloodsucker-knight-dog

You guys are more kino then any other Deltarune fan community ... chuds and troons really are the best....
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>>573910210
It's a blue check too, that's how you know it's either a bot or a grift account (sometimes both)
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>>573910179
I don't care for Lancer so he doesn't matter to me. In fact if Toby's stupid ass characters don't appeal to me, they don't matter and the message is void.
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>>573908650
/ourguy/
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Does it even actually matter who the knight is? They're just the bad guy of the game like Bowser or Eggman and that's why they do what they do, because someone has to fill the role. It literally could be Papyrus and not much changes. All that would change is the degree to which streamers would expand their mouth as they point backwards at the screen
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>>573910364
How many backshots did dess get before getting run over in her life?
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>>573908230
I feel like this is a plan that's been in progress for awhile. Kris being the son of Asgore and being family friends with the Holidays, both of who have connections to the Shelter is no coincidence. As well, the only think that we've seen that can close dark fountains is the Soul itself. Kris has had past experience with dark fountains, and has been stated to go there with December specifically. The Knight's Black Shard does extra damage against dark-type enemies, implying that they're preparing to use that against the Titans
Kris becoming friends with Susie and Ralsei wasn't the plan, the Prophecy was. Now they have to choose if they're gonna stick with it
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>>573910336
What appes to you?
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>>573910114
Sometimes I swear people only post about how much they hate this or that character
But considering the amount of autism in the thread's water supply, I'm not sure of anything anymore
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>>573910079
It's not inevitable in the sense you're thinking of. The prophecy is the only way to avert the world being covered in darkness. If the player loses interest in the game and gives up on it, then it's covered in darkness. At least your version of it is, because the prophecy always appears somewhere else, in some other player's copy of the game, so it's still inevitable in that sense. Ralsei tries to appease you in an attempt to avoid oblivion for your iteration of the game.
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>>573910179
You are already escaping it through fantasy, you are just too cucked to accept it. Every aspect of your life is defined by escapism. You yourself are not a perfectly real creature. More than half of your worth is determined by fictions like your name, your family ties and your access to fiat currency. You matter because fiction matters. Your value is intrinsically tied to the value of fantasy
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>>573910073
kris…
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>>573910364
>It literally could be Papyrus and not much changes
what changes is i close the game and request a refund immediately
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>>573910336
GOD LOVES LANCER YOU DELICIOUS LITTLE APPLE
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>10th Anniversary Stream was about how the world of Undertale is actually much larger than it can be shown in the format of a game
>Deltarune is actually just multiple layers of simulation
Would be funny in a sardonic way because it would ensure that Deltarune is just a cheap knockoff of it’s predecessor
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Deltarune is about when you'll see it you'll understand it
Two more chapters...
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>>573910145
Unless Ralsei loses his soul that's not gonna happen. The moment Asriel got souls back he was crying and apologizing like a baby.
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>>573910325
This is awesome anon. Now I gonna make some u/m/dertale too.
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>>573910114
>>573910462
It's the lingering tourists
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>>573910132
lmao
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>>573910558
Ralsei has no soul
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>>573910483
The fiction of Deltarune is a fantasy, yes, but also a reflection of and meditation upon our own world which breathes influence back into it. A fantasy doesn’t have to be an escape in the negative sense, at all. In fact, this is the whole point of the whole “balance between light and dark” thing in Ralsei’s telling of the prophecy.
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>>573901554
... is no one whiteboarding because of the/v/ fag crowd we gathered or what?
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hope ralsei “dies” then comes back in the light world except he doesn’t really remember anything except a vague sense of fondness towards kris and susie
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>>573910364
My solution to knight identity mania is to assume the knight's identity will never be revealed and is therefore a waste of time to speculate about
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>>573910145
Some people really want any excuse to hate on the fluffy boy
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>>573902908
>>573907015
dangit it was suppos to be pixelkris goofily swinging the knights sword
just havin a lil fun
my own ideas kinda suck which is why i usually used to ask for requests
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I rather have flowery as a party mate than raley
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>>573910717
what?
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>>573910206
>"Your love will become theirs, their love will become yours" spiel
I believe this is about Kris and Noelle on the weird route. Kris and Noelle fuse, their "levels of violence" and their souls (hearts) fuse
>the Player breaking out or something when all I'm doing is pressing the Proceed button that Kris keeps putting in front of me
Exactly, this is all stuff Kris is capable of and has likely accomplished before. We aren't supposed to be doing this, Kris doesn't want us to do it. Spamton outlines the weird route pretty perfectly so far; you can get "bigger" but you can't cut your strings. Power and strength don't get you what you want in this series
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>>573910620
He has more soul THAN YOU YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT TAKE THAT BACK
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>>573910503
i think you will have slightly missed the refund window of two hours.
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Ralshit should've been benched after Chapter 2
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On Normal Route you do all the prophecy flags but minimize the damage and things can finally move on for better or for worse
On Weird Route you skip a bunch of prophecy flags to get to the ending and become softlocked (frozen) (every day is the same) (some king of snowgrave)
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>>573910563
Sweet. Watchable wanna draw? I wanna see if I can draw the Ideon punching down a titan next
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>>573910523
nta but lancer ran out of bits to do around chapter 2
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Papyrus Knight is fucking stupid and won't happen but if it somehow did happen anyway I would happy because whatever justification the game could present for it would be batshit insane in a funny way. I would unironically be bothered more by an option that makes more sense but is boring, like Rudy Knight.
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Great:
>Flowery (funny and cool, looks attractive, yaoi done right)
>Aqua (really good loli design, cute and erotic)
Good:
>Seth (character design could be better but otherwise no issues, gendieshit wasn't necessary though)
Alright:
>Yellow (could be great but yaoishit with Blue takes his points)
>Orange (endearing with her delusions, ywnbah)
>Pink (boring recycled character but theme song is good)
Shit:
>Green (doesn't fit in with the rest of characters, based on a real tranny so feels self-indulgent)
Ultrashit:
>Blue (ugliest character design in the whole game, annoying personality, makes Yellow worse)
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>>573910752
i understood that but i think something about the tail-wagging reading is more appealing
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>>573910528
it’s funny cause I remember many years ago there used to be more people vocal about how they liked Undertale but disliked Deltarune
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>>573901575
MY POT ROAST!!!
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>>573910819
real
put my man berdley in
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>>573910558
asriel crying and pooping and farting and shidding and seething and malding and
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>>573910764
if ralsei heard you say this he would literally cry
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Are they really your fave if you don't cuddle with them at night?
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>>573910819
Another /v/ illegal, I'm calling ICE
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>>573910764
anyone would, flowery has haxx
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kris noelle amalgaknight deniers will be humiliated
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>>573910801
You're not real, you will NEVER be real. You have no soul, you have no light. Susie and Kris will forget about you and move on with their lives. No one will remember you. You're a toy waiting to be discarded. You will always be just a shitty copy of Kris' brother. Your feeligns don't matter. You exist to fulfil a prophecy you hate.
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>>573910990
Would they?
They were on giga seething mode in chapter 5 rather than crying
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>>573910929
>"I would unironically be bothered more by an option that makes more sense but is boring, like"
>posts the least sensical option that only exists because theoryschizos huff their own farts
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>>573911023
>Noelle arrives in a party van
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>>573910780
What? Im asking if the /v/ fags scared off all the draw fags or if its just to early in the morning for anyone to have drawn anything yet
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>>573911080
>they
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>>573904382
i saw it on twitter but i had goosebumps. i think i would've felt the same if i had played it, really. so i don't think i have gotten spoiled in a sense.
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>>573911080
Yeah, he'd just use Fireshock like the GOAT he is
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>>573909831
I play a 'normal' route with no recruits and it still plays in Chapter 5. Honestly it's gone from a lovely sorrowful song to kinda just depressing to me. It's so empty...
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>>573911060
sei
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i want to see flowery and reigen have a conversation
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>>573911239
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>>573910865
You are hereby BANISHED from the Fan Club. Sequester yourself with Mr. Society OUT OF MY PRESENCE
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Ralsei is a selfish, pissy asshole who desperately wants your love and affection.
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>>573910752
Sulk not mine dearest artfaggot thoust ideas and thou'rt quite capital.
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If I had infinity money realistically how hard would it be to get a tall twink to dress like mettaton and act meant to me and how would I go around to doing that.
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>>573909671
>>chapter 5 closed out a ton of game-long gimmicks and easter eggs
Like what? The only thing I can think of is Starwalker
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>>573911295
Every Ralsei is tailored to the player
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In Chapter 1 when Susie fights Lancer, during the fight, the Soul we control can't be the one Kris has since it's still inside him. Are we controlling Susie's Soul? Why can't she seal dark fountains then?
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>>573911275
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>>573904652
YOUR GRACE, I SWEAR UPON MY DT MACHINE I SAW THE BLUE ONE DO SELFSUCK
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*clears throat*
The whole point of Kris is that they're deliberately not meant to be who you want them to be.
Kris has their own goals that go against the Player's.
Kris deliberately hides information from the player and limits the player's choices.
Kris is not (you) no matter how much you try to make them be.
This dichotomy is intentional. There's a push & pull where (you) WANT Kris to be a certain way but Kris also wants (you) to be a certain way.
As the Pink fight tells you with the subtlety of a brick to your face, the body and SOUL have to learn to cooperate. That means at the very least you both have to meet each other halfway. (You) must accept Kris is Kris and Kris has to accept that (you) are (you).
In other words, fuck you Kris! Give me back my Vessel you self centered little shit!
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>>573908230
Getting everyone's hopes up for freedom only to shatter them (the superbosses) in order to harvest shards they can use to destroy whatever weird limbo everyone is in. Doing it yourself is how you fight back. The player is antagonistic because there's no freedom as long as you're in control. You can just delete your save and trap everyone all over again.
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>>573902378
In the Middle Ages chapter you play as a mute knight with a mage best friend and a royal love interest that your best friend also loves on a quest to defeat the dark lord and while a lot of shit happens the important part is that the dark lord was already dead, your best friend betrays you and is responsible for fucking you over including making you kill the king because of an illusion making him look like a monster, and your love interest instead of going “wow your friend was kinda a dick” declares her undying love for him in and kills herself in front of you. This pisses the knight off so much he actually starts talking and becomes the new dark lord including creating incarnations of his evil in each of the other chapters that you have to beat before getting to this one. Also important is that in the chapter there was an actual dark lord that was defeated previously and you meet and team up with the previous knight and mage. If Noelle gets kidnapped (again) at the start of chapter 6 and Susie is conspicuously missing then we can safely assume Kris is going to start talking.
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>>573911113
It's objectively less nonsensical than Papyknight even if I think it's also wrong and retarded
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>>573911076
"He's pretty chatty, you know? When you aren't around, he was like, combing my hair this morning .... He's real Kris, they all are. It ... wouldn't make any sense if he's not."
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>>573911326
money permitting, i'd imagine the difficult part would be funding a cosplay that doesnt suck ass
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>>573911308
as much as i love how much more expressive the face sprites are in chapter 5 i kind of hate how they debunked the hands part of the "rouxls is related to gaster" theory
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>>573911350
Moss, eggs and crystals
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>>573911114
do NOT piss in the lake a mantleworm swam up my urethra and is trying to get me to stab my mom
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TEN
FEET
TWENTY
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>>573910859
Problably some Deltarune'd Gundam memes or some Xabungle. Also do it, can't wait to see.
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>>573911396
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I'm losing my mind
I'm losing my mind
I'm losing my mind
I'm losing my mind
I'm losing my mind
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>>573911548
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>>573911458
>If Noelle gets kidnapped (again) at the start of chapter 6
I’m gonna groan if this happens, normal route Noelle feels borderline like a gagshit character
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>>573911486
Rouxls just seems to fluctuate in meta powers according to rule of funny, nothing is neither confirmed nor debunked with him.
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>>573910709
Escapism is intrinsic to your life. A balance is perpetual. You will always have 1 foot in reality and 1 foot in an escapist fantasy, as you have your entire life. What that fantasy is might change, and the conditions of that reality will change as well, but the whole point of Deltarune is to show you that fictional things are important without needing to be real. Darkners exist so that you can accept for a second that things with no human rights still deserve them. Reality is layered so you can realize your reality is also layered.
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>>573911365
Could we tailor his clothes a bit tighter to his voluptuous figure?
Asking for my friend who plays Deltarune.
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>>573911379
During that fight the SOUL flies in off-screen from where Kris is
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six feet seven
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>>573911142
are you on the new whiteboard?
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>>573911648
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>>573910325
So you admit you’re a /v/ tourist lol. Go back
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>>573911648
i agree with this and could the hem of his robes be raised a little? at least to mid thigh. add some slits up the sides too desu and just get rid of the scarf or turn it into a sash so his waist is emphasized
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will lancer do anything cool at the end
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>>573901896
>why the hell do mentally ill faggots on twitter, reddit, and tumblr
they're also on 4chan too, if the latest reply is anything to go by. simply put you'll always have retards taking the game way too seriously, even if it means projecting their fantasies onto a pixel game. enjoy the game as you wish and ignore them.
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Hmmm condoms are sort of like hazmat suits for your penis... right?
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>>573911142
Anon it's very early and most of the drawfags do in fact, habe jobs and lives outside of the public post board of a niche sub-group on a mongolian basket weaving forum
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>Dessknight real:
The Dessknight people act really smug and never stop making Dess knight gooner fanart. This is incredibly sad and pathetic.
>Rudyknight is true:
The Rudyknight bros celebrate, likely civil and chill and the Dessknight people don't meltdown too hard because it's not too "implausible" of a theory.
>Kriselle knight is true:
It's the Deltarune equivalent of the orange man election where the Dessknight people are melting down and Kriselle knight dudes are partying and laughing at them.
>Asrielknight is true:
Most people are disappointed either because making Asriel the antagonist again is boring or because it wasn't particularly that foreshadowed of a twist, though there was some stuff pointing to it.
>Carolknight is true:
Meltdown from the entire subhuman "theorist" community calling Toby a hack and possibly even review bombing the game because this was "supposed" to be a red herring that was easily debunked in the chapter this hoe was introduced in.
>Papyrusknight is true:
Everyone dances and parties to Vengabus.
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>>573911076
You think Ralsei would be hurt hearing the same shit he's always thinking, just in stereo. Get new material fag. Maybe try the one about the hat again
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>>573911506
Post some gundam memes im happy to obliged.

As for xabungle, does this count? It was supposed to be a piece with Jiron and krus before jiron because a study reference more than anything
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>>573911751
He will get yelled at when what he is able to do as a Darkner can no longer meet what Susie needs
That's kind of cool
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>>573911646
It’s not “escapism,” though. That’s the thing. The point is to affirm all levels of reality as intrinsically valuable, to hold fact and fiction together in a mutually enriching tension. Fiction is a reflection of fact which is a reflection of a higher reality, and all of these are good. Everything is good, and I am free. It’s not that fiction is totally unreal and so is my life, it’s that my life is real and so in a very important sense is fiction
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>>573911474
The cosplay/ makeup is the easy part if money's not an issue.
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>>573911803
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I tried telling him to watch out but I dont think he can hear us.. he must be too focussed..
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>>573911790
carol knight would be so stupid
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>>573910951
I've swung back and forth. Chapter 1, I liked Undertale more. Chapter 2 was amazing and pushed it above Undertale for me. Nowadays it's just behind Undertale but I'm confident it will surpass Undertale.
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>>573911447
are we building Susie's dreams so we can destroy them and harvest a shard from her
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>>573911463
Susie... Did you forget to take your meds again? This "Ralsei" doesn't exist, we've been through this many times already. A grown ass woman still playing with imaginary friends is very concerning
- Said Dr. Wing Dings, psychiatrist
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>>573911646
Pretty much this. Toby has said that what makes him the happiest of someone playing undertale is when he receives messages like "I want to try to be kinder from now on" Fiction and fantasy are important, and can be positive if it helps you grow as a person (and you'll notice that all the characters have grown and changed from their adventures in the dark worlds), you just have to go back to reality at the end of the day.
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GOOD MORNING I slept for a trillion hours because I dreamt I had many friends.
>>573905453
Hotland would have been seen as Toby's magnum opus if that were the case!! honestly Alphys on her own is already an incredible character yet I keep hearing people saying "wooow they'd have hated hotland if Undertale were released in chapters" maybe It'd have been as divisive as Chapter 3 (the best Chapter after 5)
>>573905563
True!!
>>573911326
I'm not male so I don't know if I count as a twink but I could never be mean to another Mettaton lover even if I'm tall and underweight...
>>573911856
Ouuughh erotic erotic!
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>>573910951
I liked Undertale but never really obsessed over it, just thought it was cool and had interesting characters, Deltarune activated all of my autism though.
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>>573911917
Replace ralsei with kris
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>>573911876
I saw art of him getting raped by a cat today so it was a good day
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>>573911790
papyrus knight would be cool but i don't think it's real
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>>573911891
We're not doing that
Kris and Ralsei are though
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>>573911835
Aah I saw that earlier, that's why you said it was a western.
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#nooticing how selfinsertfags desperately want Kris to be trans by trying to change Kris's assigned pronouns and body to be what they identify with.
Nice try chuddies, you can't change your gender no matter how hard you try. Your name is Kris, you are a they/them humanoid thing. YWNBAM.
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>>573905453
if that had happened, there would be schizotheories about the 'puzzle box' in snowdin disappearing when you backtracked. people would make completely wrong fan designs of this mysterious 'mettaton' guy that had him as a lava monster or some shit.
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>>573911789
Right. Than I you for the reality check
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>>573911458
As for the rest of Live A Live you pick one of seven chapters that represent a different era in history with each having a different protagonist, gimmick/twist on the combat (one chapter even has a genocide/pacifist route system), and final boss as some form of Odio, either an evil god or a T. rex or whatever. After beating all seven chapters you get to play the Cuck Knight chapter that reveals the origins of Odio and then in the final section you either team up all the other protagonists in a final dungeon to kick Cuck Knight’s ass or play as all of Cuck Knight’s final boss forms and end the world in every era.
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>>573911379
In the original prophecy cutscene the heroes seal the fountains together. It's not the cage who does everything
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>>573911463
>He's pretty chatty, you know? When you aren't around
He fucking hates me
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>>573911917
Seems to me like she is not doing too badly, actually. You should check on Kris, seems like they are losing it a little bit.
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if ralsei dies and leaves a letter behind and the final chapter ends with a reading of it like mary's letter in silent hill 2 how fucked up are you gonna be for the next two weeks after
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>>573911948
We should pool our funds together and hire a mettaton. He can bully me thursdays to sundays and you can have him the rest of the week.
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>>573911379
anon come the fuck on youve had 8 years to figure this one out.
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>>573905875
PINK BOMBER
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>>573912170
why would I care if Ralsei dies
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>>573912174
Hell yes!!! a deal's a deal!!!
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>>573912174
I need him to fuck my throat with a metallic strap on.. .
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>>573911350
Moss, Starwalker, Shadow Crystals, eggs, and possibly recruits
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>>573912141
/v/tard go home
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>>573912170
Depends on how it's executed, since it sounds kinda cliched. The moment of his death will probably fuck me up bigly though.
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Do you think Pink gets embarrassed when she poos out bombs in front of Kris haha
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I don't trust any of (you) of understanding what deltarune is about.
I expect a curve ball that very few would predict.
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>>573912238
Bulkin...
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>>573912137
Between Kris opening fountains left and right, and your presence as a time bending god, can you blame him? He is doing his best to have faith in Kris and appreciate him, but it's not easy.
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>>573912095
pissei...
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>>573912260
Blooky...
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>>573912109
Susie already took Kris’ act ability and made Ralsei learn it too, she learned healing magic from Ralsei and by the end of chapter 4 has gotten as good as nerfed Ralsei, if she learns/becomes able to seal fountains the world will truly have started revolving around her.
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>>573912235
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>>573911443
The Pink fight tells you that the SOUL has to do whatever the body wants and the body only has to "compromise" by letting the SOUL exist solely because the body would die otherwise. The body doesn't need to care about what the SOUL wants, the body doesn't need to share information with the SOUL, and the SOUL isn't allowed to leave either because the body will die without it.
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>>573911790
Dessknight and Kriselleknight the are the only two possibilities and I'm tired of pretending they're not
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>>573912305
Yeah because people there love Suselle? Uh?
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>>573912465
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>>573912482
Sounds transphobic
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>>573911458
>>573912108
I didn't want to spoonfeed the anon, but I think you didn't mention the bit where the teamup is literal. The player is addressed directly. Oersted directly asks you to kill him and end Odio but there's a true ending if you choose not to and help the other heroes redeem him instead
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I kinda thought that the longer the game goes on Rouxls would become more of a serious threat as he uses his powers for more and more bullshit uses but I guess he just does bits
That's kinda lame
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Why was Susie one more incident away from getting expelled and almost universally hated if she's never done anything wrong ever?
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>>573912394
Seeing Ralsei in drywall-punching mode endeared him to me even more than he was before, makes me wanna put a hand on his shoulder and tell him to ignore the static
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>>573912653
But his bits were some of the best laughs I had. Did not expect the initial puzzles and GOD. DAMNIT. Moments etc.
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>>573912653
He will return as Susie's 'second in command' when we have to fight our way through Castle Town to seal the fountain.
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>>573912170
I don't see a way were Ralsei dies and I don't feel disapointed by the story. It's just too cruel and pointless, Asriel's finale was pretty rough but at least he continued live partially as a flower to post on /v/, bittersweet.
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>>573912563
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I think Kris's original soul in another body (maybe the vessel?) is the Knight and that's why it acts just like Kris and why Kris is in league with it, he's literally puppeting it with his soul. It's also why is Kris slash is true he can do the exact same swoon as the knight can, because the knight is just Kris
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>>573912653
Him and Queen are the sole protectors of Castletown, he will have his Takes Action moment when Castletown is in danger and will use his cards to punch (you) the player directly in the face in real life.
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I can't imagine a good ending to the story that makes anyone happy
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>>573912593
I’m not counting the remake. The near future chapter does directly address the player, though.
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I admit I'm trying to stop liking Ralsei because of the tiny possibility he might come out as a trans
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>>573912804
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>>573912712
a n g e r e i
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>>573912527
Why would you use the exact same autism filename images on /v/ too
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>>573912653
That's retarded, all the throuple bits with lanino and elnina were some of the funniest moments in the game.
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>>573912381
/utg/ has a higher success rate for theories than a lot of the community
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remember to stop and smell the flowers!
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>>573912781
True, I think we may get something bittersweet like him becoming something more than a Darkner but also having to depart elsewhere for whatever reason. Perhaps he upgrades to King and has to take control of his domain to maintain the universal balance or something.
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I never trusted ralsei and i thought the submissive bits were both annoying and also made me think lesser of him
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>>573912897
He won't, and if he does it's solely because Toby is a pussy who's scared of Twitter and Reddit, not because it's important part of his character.
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>>573912863
On the other hand I can't picture a single ending that would make me unhappy, you people are just negative all the time I trust Toby to make a cool ending just like all the Undertale ones.
>>573912940
Mettaknight is proof of this!
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>>573912863
Everyone who's unhappy die ending
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>>573912749
I'd actually love this
Especially if he ends up fucking around and making things worse for real.
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>>573912381
I think a lot of the stuff we're getting tee balled up for storywise is being foreshadowing well enough, the average trog here just can't read
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>>573911891
>Kris is pushing Susie and Noelle together so they can cause a dramatic breakup that simultaneously causes Susie to do what they need her to and also produce a black shard
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>>573912939
Rouxls is painfully unfunny and overshadowed what little Ch3 content we had with that obnoxious bit
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>>573912827
i just did, thanks tenna
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>>573912930
Because you could always be a chud and I wouldn't want to miss an opportunity to remind you of your cuckoldry. DUH!
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>>573912997
Deltarune is about how you shouldn't trust submissive people
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why does she do this
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Deltarune's ending will be transcendentally good but the people who can never be happy will not be happy with it
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I’m going with Dess’ guitar being the main villain of chapter 6 but gets ganked last minute like Tenna by whoever the knife panel in Jackenstein’s maze represents.
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Kris Deltarune bursts through your door right now and demands you stop manipulating them. What do you do?
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>>573913120
If you didn't get a boner imagining Rouxls forcibly turning your relationship into a polycule with him as the focus then you don't understand Toby's artistic vision...
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Most of this game is unfunny and obnoxious the only reason i put up with it is because i liked ut as a kid and maybe id also like dt more if i were like 13 again
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>>573910073
Black Ralsei for cute, white Ralsei for lewd, we've been over this people
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>>573913031
It's still gonna ruin it for me and I'll never be able to talk about him again
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>>573912381
at least 2 people here correctly guessed that mad mew mew would be the boss
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Thank you based retards for drawing pippin coccoa and Pippin vanillia you guys are still the best

1973
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>>573913169
Theoryschizos are already imagining new headcanons with absolutely 0 textual evidence or foreshadowing (third route/side c) and they make up a rather unfortunate amount of the fanbase so there will be huge upsets when it happens
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>>573913168
Because the MTT brandee lovense i shoved up her pussy went off
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>>573912970
There is not enough Aqua feet art in this world
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>>573913227
I would apologize to them and be really pathetic about it.
>>573913268
Me me me!
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>>573913227
I rape him.
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>>573913268
We also predicted that chapter 5 would be anime themed based on the cherry blossom petals in the background during Gerson's fight
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>>573909759
Betting on Chapter 6’s gimmick being like Brandish’s where you can “rotate” rooms to get a new perspective.
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>>573913392
>Me me me!
What tipped you off, if I may ask? Seems like a pretty crazy thing to predict accurately
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>>573913260
Black ralsei is for weebs, white ralsei for people that want the story to be good and care about the character.
>>573913164
Kris gives me switch vibes
>>573913120
He does kind of suck if you are stupid and have no sense of humor, I'll give you that.
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>>573913443
agreed. i'd put money on this.
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>>573912929
I want ralsei to look at me like this when he notices my eyes wandering all over his body and an erection noticeably forming in my pants
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>>573913227
I bend over for them and expose my pussy so they can fuck me
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>>573912917
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>>573913474
We're talking about fucking Ralsei, the story can take a backseat in that discussion
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The revelation that you guys don’t like Lancer and Rouxls is VERY DISAPPOINTING
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>>573913576
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The Mikes were never funny either
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>>573904382
it continue to be the more interesting of the routes with less screen time
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>>573913468
Alphys says in an earlier chapter that Asgore likes Mew Mew Kissy Cutie 2 and we knew the dark world would be in Asgore's store with an anime theme
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>>573913630
please understand, this fandom has the memory of a goldfish and neither of those two did anything since chapter 3.
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>>573913242
Your you of ten years ago was smarter than your current self.
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>>573913468
Well I only predicted it after the trailer, but it being anime themed and with the knowledge we had of Asgore liking Mew Mew Kissy Cutie it was obvious in my mind, she had to return and Toby wouldn't just completely shaft Maddie's character for a new darkner based purely on Mew Mew without Maddie involved, while at the same time he wouldn't bring Maddie back and NOT make it a super big deal so she had to be the secret boss.
>>573913630
I LOVE BOTH OF THEM!!
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/571455604/#571464464
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>>573913630
I do like Lancer though. He's mah boi.
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>>573913630
lancer's entire character is just this
https://youtu.be/rkOib-MmTds
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>>573913630
I hate baby characters unless they're erotic lolis
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>>573913164
Deltarune is about how you can trust submissive people if you are a Big Shot since Ralsei will choose Kris over Susie who will be kicked out of the Fun Gang when she stops being useful
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>>573913630
I still love them both, sad they weren't able to be around much for the last "fun" chapter.
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>>573913630
I like Lancer in small doses, and Toby puts just enough of him in the game to not get annoying, so I don't feel the need to seek more Lancer outside of the game
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I'm thinking of commissioning a painting for a little creative writing I made in an earlier thread but I have no idea how to initiate that process. I guess I'd have to start by just looking at different artists in the first place and see who has commissions open
I guess I'll probably need to at least make a rough sketch of what I want
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>>573904382
it was neat and the song was good. new knight theory is retarded though
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Doenut
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Ralsei isn't nice, he's just deathly afraid we're going to kill him and destroy the world cuz he knows about weird route
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>>573913753
Oops linked the Maddie post to the wrong reply but nevertheless.
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>>573913597
Fucking or not fucking Ralsei is part of the main plot, according to Toby Fox, I don't know what to tell you.
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janny is nuking all /v/ threads again so you should blame all bad poasts on /v/ today
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>>573913468
not them, but here was my old comment with my reasoning yes i genuinely assumed it because of the mettaton knight theorizing
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/554196460/#554201271
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>>573913702
Schizopippins had potential but Toby turned him into another boring fujopandering character
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>>573913794
Lancer is not a baby
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>>573913958
why is he blushing while being peed on
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>>573912713
>>573912939
>>573913120
Rouxls' retarded broken English is probably the thing that has gotten the most laughs out of me in this game. Shakespeare's centrifugal force within his grave is just off the charts with that one. Same with Hopschef's pun filled terrible german that shit had me howling.
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>>573913702
They're poking fun at people trying to predict Deltarune's future and Battat is a parody of crazy theorists, I think they're funny in that way +people are trying to make them a big deal or even Gaster related, and the idea that some random Pippin is such a schizo conspiracy nut that Gaster himself messes with him is funny even of itself
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>>573914030
i was wrong about it being for asgore because she had a crush on him though... maybe that was just a red herring to explain why she was around the store.
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If you could only pick one plot thread to be absolutely nailed what would it be
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>>573914105
He acts like an annoying baby character, I can't imagine anyone else than people who call dogs "heckin puppers" liking this character
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>>573913794
>I'm a soulless lolicon
That checks out
>>573913931
We could argue about that when it comes to Kriss to a certain degree, but he is incredibly nice, sweet and genuine with Susie time after time. Ralsei is the sweetest darling.
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>>573913794
>pedo
And we're done here
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>>573914268
I don't know what absolutely nailed means.
Like it's executed fabulously and satisfyingly?
Dess Holiday.
Like it's scrapped and removed from the game?
Suselle lol sorry
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>>573914234
I think the meta poking fun at people has gone too far to the point it's not really funny, especially the "Battat motif." It feels like Toby is waiting to punish you with mockery for making a theory.
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do we think toby regrets primary shifting to bluesky? his posts get like 1% of the engagement they would have on twitter
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>>573914210
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>>573913715
>>573913753
>>573914030
In hindsight it was obvious Mew Mew would make an appearance. Mew Mew being the secret boss is a bit more of a stretch since Toby had already made Mew Mew a boss though. It's kinda like if Napstablook was a secret boss.
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>>573914030
You were right once and you shall be right again!! we are in a dimension above the nonbelievers...
>>573914118
Why wouldn't he blush?
>>573914251
I think her dialogue during the festival is the best foreshadowing Toby has ever done, I locked in the moment I read it and knew "holyyy shit I was right!!"
>>573914268
Gaster needs to be good after 10 years of buildup.
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>>573914268
I'm biased, so I'll go with Ralsei's evolution into his own person
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>>573914268
if people genuinely like and befriended kris or if they like 'US' better, if susie will side with Kris or (us) if we have been good boysengirls who didn't do anything wrong
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>>573914275
you're playing the heckin pupper game, son
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>>573914275
those people also hate babies, though
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>>573914275
He is an endearing and chaotic younger brother for Susie. He is great.
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It is genuinely a bad thing for Susie to be happy she is way too comfortable when she is happy
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>>573914018
But they all unironically are from /v/niggers, it was observed very recently
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>>573913931
Ralsei is genuinely nice, just to Kris and Susie instead of (You)
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Kris was made for doegina
Susie was made for Ralpenis (about 12 inches)
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>>573914365
Because half of his team is made out of trannies and all trannies said you're a bad person if you're still on Twitter when Elon Musk bought it
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>>573913971
Okay, and when I'm in bed with Ralsei I won't be thinking how relevant he is to the plot, I'll be thinking about how much I wanna plow his fluffy little ass, so for the sake of that specific discussion, him being part of the main plot or not is of little interest to me
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>>573914453
this stupid idea again? of course it would show up when /v/'s here
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>>573914018
I stubbed my toe. Can I blame that on /v/ as well?
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>>573914459
If you feel like making fun of someone, this stupid (actually great) line made me cry because that's when I realized that Ralsei HAD to be connected to Asriel because he is also a fluffy boy, and only then I saw the anagram in the name.
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>>573914393
NEO was already half-Mettaton and he was a secret boss, I think It's normal to rationalize "Mew Mew would be a darkner... so Maddie can possess her and then that means she can be a secret boss..."
Blooky is a chill person and wouldn't have motives to fight unlike Maddie, their coworker got kidnapped and they haven't gone crazy yet honestly in his position I'd be like "fuckkk I'm next I'm going to die fuck fuck fuck"
Perhaps next chapter we get the reveal Toby adores the ghosts and Blooky will be the third ghost-like secret boss. in reality it will be Seam who is currently possessed by the Ruins Dummy
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>>573914575
i've never been on /v/
susie and the soul interacting has been set up since chapter 1. sorry if it makes you mad
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>>573913242
its much better than undertale so you would like it more
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>>573914275
If Lancer's antics don't make you laugh you're no friend of mine.
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>>573914121
Man, remember when Toriel said “Asriel can’t carry you on his back anymore” and the picture showing Asriel letting Kris use the better controller by implication of him using the knockoff one and all the awards for prowess Asriel has and then Ralsei is shown to be actually really strong and handicapping himself like Asriel and then there’s Asriel crying and confessing to Alvin about rule breaking and Ralsei being really upset about Flowery (and Susie in that one battle in chapter 2) breaking the rules and then once confronted about his bullshit in chapter 4 he cries and tries to double down on babying the other two party members and those dust mites in chapter 3 can reference in battle Dess and Asriel as a lost girl and crying boy respectively
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>>573914363
I think it's just right, Toby isn't laughing at every single theory ever made, it's more about people who got so deep into trying to guess what's gonna happen next, that they forgot that this is a game and they should be having fun with it instead of losing sleep over it
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>>573913728
Finding things funny isnt a matter of being smart
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>>573914365
Do you come to /utg/ to maximize your engagement numbers? A good post gets like 8 replies, tops.
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>>573914234
Cowboy Mike deserves more love, that lug is okay.
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>>573914848
>>573914848
>>573914848
Hop on
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>>573914748
toby is living in fucking terror, he knows he is one half decent theory catching on from getting btfo
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>>573914234
I feel bad for jongs...... I NEED HIM TO BE HAPPY
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>>573914521
>half
there are two
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>>573914393
Technically it was Mad Mew Mew who was a boss before rather than Mew Mew the fictional character. The Maddie component is still there, but she's much closer to just being Mew Mew.
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>>573914731
Yea dude I totally remember
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>>573913372
aquafriends are very vanilla, they mostly just seem to want to kiss her cunny
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Why do people genuinely believe that there is a transgender conspiracy to conquer Tobysoft? Like damn, no trust in humanity at all
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>>573914560
damn what a hot ralsei he looks great in the. nurse uniform
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I pray for Toby to replace redundant content in Chapters 3&4 (and possibly 5 if there is a sword route)
I pray for Ralsei to have sex with a woman or to remain single.
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>>573914670
>Perhaps next chapter we get the reveal Toby adores the ghosts
We don't need a reveal, all three of them get really privileged treatment in merch and side material, references and shit... I am almost completely sure Mettaton is gonna get some screen(heh)time with his Tenna thing. Toby LOVES the creepy cousins, they're some of his most cherished creations.
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>>573911008
I got this same daki. Love his small peen
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>>573914956
Not really, Maddie is on control for most if the fight. Not a bad thing, I love her, I'm just saying, it's her fighting you both times. Darkner Mew mew is just there to teach her, and you, some lessons.
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>>573909710
i get to kill Ralsei and Susie? I was talking bad about chapter 5 but chapter 7 might just bring it all back
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>>573911443
ahem. Kris is my plaything and the fact they right against this makes me want to hurt them more. t. Weird route chapter 5
when Carol gives the order to kill Susie I will relish doing so whole Kris cries
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>>573905249
She looks so fucking deranged here, haha
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>>573914453
i would like this as well because it means we get the vessel back



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