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Just Blue People Things Edition

Previous refreshing flavors: >>573901502

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
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>https://archive.is/iSiFg

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when will durag johnson make a cameo on deltarune?
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>>573914958
>>573914907
Who is the Netskie?
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>>573914848
>I feel bad for jongs...... I NEED HIM TO BE HAPPY
Nobody cares about Jongler and Toby knows that. That's why he didn't even bother to make merch of him when he did for the other 2 Mikes.
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I LOVE TV!
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Why do these anchors have different file sizes
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>>573914958
oh no... I posted before you did... oh no... i ruined everything... im sorry... oh no... should i delete my post first... oh...
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>>573914957
Damn it I wanted to see his nipples
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Ralsei horsecock on the whiteboard.. what could it mean..
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remember to stop and smell the flowers!
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>>573914957
I love Durag Toby so much, he might be my favorite Toby of them all
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>>573915106
:)
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When will Fangamer announce the Chapter 5 merch. How long did it take after Chapter 3+4?
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>There is a darkner based on PC
>Doesnt memepost
>There is darkner based on a (old) TV
>Spouts out internet meme shit 24/7

Tenna is such a shit character
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>>573915071
One is for heavy storms, one is for light docking
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>>573915081
The tranny
The drag queen
The furry
The ghost family has got it going on>>57
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>>573915154
I think thats a bit bigger than 12 inches.. His poor robe stood no chance.. someone should like.. stand in front of him to hid it or something..
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>>573914393
you're right it was obvious in hindsight.

honestly, i think it didn't catch on solely because maddie didn't have any characterfags. like how, despite being one of the only 6 real people left in the town, no one outside this generals loyal schizos think mettaton will so much as show up
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I look like this. Who want me?
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>>573915081
This way the thread is unsinkable
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>>573915071
It was shared across time and space.
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Noel ...
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>>573914778
People without a sense of humor tend to be close minded, which most often lead into ignorance, specially in the long term.
>>573914731
Kris is scare of losing Susie in the same way he lost Asriel.
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>>573915106
liar wtf
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If Roblox exists in the Deltarune universe, does this mean many monster kids were groomed by pedophiles? Is there many Roblucks youtubers that turned out to be pedos?
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>>573915270
Suselle would be 100x better if it was yaoi
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why is it called the freedom motif instead of the jevil motif
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>>573914957
Toby made Blue to pay reparations for this, but he can never wash it all away.
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Remember to stop and smell the FLOWER MAN
FLOWER MAN
WITH HIS HEART
IN THE SAND
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>>573915081
very cute
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>>573915146
>Toby dresses up as a girl
>a drag queen if you will
>he's a weeb so he'd pronounce it du-ra-gu
What does this mean
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>>573914748
I think that's a bad thing. One of the worst parts of Deltarune is not being able to predict anything, so whatever happens in a chapter you have to accept blindly and love it, and it's always a bummer if you dared to expect anything else or thought another idea was better than what came to be
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>>573914363
>malding theoryschizo
Using the mike stuff that all the schizos latched on to poke fun at them was the most based thing toby has ever done and it's called the battat motif until you can find something else directly in game to call it
>>573914748
This + the point of a story is to outline foreshadowing for narrative throughline and not just do shit that sounds cool for fun. People need to accept we were working on grossly incomplete information back then and as the story gets closer to completion the less likely each individual theory is to be true.
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>Mettatenna
>Sethly
>Snowdin bunny x Tasque Manager
>Milklooker x Zenlooker
These pairings will become canon during the Roaring
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I dreamed that Chapter 7 had a "theatrical release" that was just a silent longplay shown in theaters two weeks before the game was available on Steam. Even though no one wanted to, every serious fan still attended just so they wouldn't be spoiled online. None of the theories or mysteries were addressed. Like it didn't even explain how Dess disappeared. Then it implied Noelle and Susie were fucking at the end. I woke up so angry I was breathing heavy.
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>>573915305
Pedophiles exist in the UT universe
We know this because we see one (Pink)
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No but I'm actually really liking the idea that the knight is a monster who has Kris's soul because that explains why they're so powerful even in the Light World (they can presumably muscle Undyne and Asgore, two of the strongest monsters). The Deltarune mechanics don't quite work like Undertale (monsters possibly bleed, they can't do magic) but they also do work like Undertale to some degree (turn into dust when dead) so I think it's possible
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>>573915285
are there ANY other grooming victims I need to know about?
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>>573915415
meds
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>>573915296
I'm not lying anon.. I just found it, its above the suicidal Noelles.. Its not very good, though..
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>>573915353
then why dont you like yellow/blue
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>>573915305
You made me chuckle.
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>>573915401
Wow...that was so OMEGA
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>>573915442
JAH
ORENJI
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>>573915249
Nobody wanted Mew Mew to be the next schizoboss and the relatively disappointed reactions kind of show it, as much as it was a safe bet.
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i woke up with a goner, i woke up with a hard greenis
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>>573915305
No pedophilia doesn't exist in the Deltarune universe outside of Sans because he comes from Nutdealer
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>>573915259
I totally agree with you on Mettaton getting some more screen(heheeheheheh)time soon 100%, but I'm worried about Blooky... I think they're just going to continue to not do anything about Undyne's kidnapping till the game ends which would kinda fit their character but still I like them a lot I want them to at least question the citizens (including Kris and Susie) about their coworker's disappearance.
>>573915256
>>573915405
>>573915473
All 3 of these posts are certified true and real.
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>>573915496
Its okay anon.. The mid digital circus is over already.. It could never cook up designs as ravenously hot as the Holiday family or Ralsei..
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I am going to be no clipping through /utg/ pretty soon pls be advised of side effects
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>>573915460
There’s no fun in guessing if you’re not allowed the chance to be right.
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>>573915473
Lightners "dating" Darkners would be actually mentally ill
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>>573915427
>One of the worst parts of Deltarune is not being able to predict anything
But that's the best part. Predictable is boring.
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>>573915545
She packs a citrus punch!
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>>573914957
If he was willing to make a "tldr eat shit faggots" reference I demand he alludes to that too
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>>573915624
whatever that means?
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>>573915401
>when you realize the reason Flowery is annoying and always one step ahead is because Flowey was also annoying and always one step ahead, just in the opposite way
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>>573915442
Hi fellow human
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If Alphys had given Asgore the limited special edition of Mew Mew
https://files.catbox.moe/v3a6ag.jpg
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>>573915358
I have asked this for years
It's you and me against the world, anon
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ralsei...
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>>573915427
How is it Deltarune's fault that you set up some false expectations and it didn't match them?
>One of the worst parts of Deltarune is not being able to predict anything
You mean the best part? I don't want the story to go exactly as expected, that'd be the most boring shit ever
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>only secret boss that does not utilize "the battat motif"
>has an attack where it directly summons FRIEND cats
Why did people think it was important?
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>>573915496
I laughed
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>>573915401
>nude hypertwink Flowery
Fetish unlocked
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>>573915643
The moral of Deltarune is that 2D > 3DPD
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>>573915715
Delicious chocolate donuts...
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>>573915643
Don't be an Objectumphobe.
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>>573915771
there is no way this piece of shit is a horned headband.
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>>573915694
Flowey is also the only character in Undertale with voice lines!
>ooh, that’s a wonderful idea!
>*demonic laughter*
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>>573915650
It's bad because I bought a videogame and the game won't tell me what it even is about, so I cannot temper my expectations. It should be just a little more transparent. Not everyone loves opening a lootbox worth of a game just hoping it'll be just what you love
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>>573915353
wrong it would still be just as forced and without chemistry. the only way to inject any life into the ship is to make noelle a guy, and even then it would ride hard on novelty
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now that the dust has settled, why was chapter 3 so painfully unfunny?
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=O0w8hHIhc9g

open this link to see jevil's cranking organ
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>>573914957
I hate AIslop
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>>573915715
Gyarus are weird.
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>Kris
>Kris look at this
>I turned her into an egg Kris
>I turned her into a freaking egg
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>Its the last fun adventure before the bad times
Ok but the adventure actually isn't very fun... it's pretty melancholic and stressful. Susie is preoccupied about Noelle, and Ralsei is in prick mode most of the chapter, even bullying Orange for no discernible reason. And Susie and Ralsei are made to feel like shit by Flowery for stuff largely outside their own control, and then Asgore gets kidnapped anyway and Flowery gets killed*, and Kris & Ralsei are still hiding things from Susie by the end, and Rudy fell down before the dark world opened.
A whole leg of the journey is stopping a flower from killing himself and it's pretty morbid humor. Like you literally watch him put a gun to his head and pull the trigger expecting his own brains to be blown out of his skull
It's just such a weird chapter to me tonally. I'm (genuinely) glad if you liked it but it was *personally* Deltarune's biggest misfire for me. This is just one dimension that I felt it was, "messy". I'm thinking of trying to write out my thoughts more comprehensively in a doc although it would probably just be for my own sake because I don't think anybody wants to read it
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>>573915820
how does one be a hyper twink what does that mean
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>>573915771
You have it the other way around, "Battat motif" means it can be given to any irrelevant side character, which is why actually important character like Knight don't have it while jobbers like Jevil do.
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>>573915863
mettaton wearing one of these as an ethical feather boa

>>573915871
mettaton ex has one too
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>>573915904
I think because the Queen was written more as a joke dispenser than an actual character. Which is unusual for Toby because usually he's good at avoiding this by making the characterization the source of the humor
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>>573915514
Kris was raped by this guy when he was 6
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Flowery knew who the knight is, what was the incident and how the story will end and also alot of other things but that dumbasd ralsei kept pushing him away and stupid us never bothered to ask him
He wouldve gladly told us everything unfiltered and casually
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>>573915951
Wait, you mean you haven’t unlocked your transformation yet? Dude, that’s fucking embarrassing. Even middle schoolers are going omega these days.
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I don't think it's possible for the red soul to be Kris's. For one thing, Gaster was the one who hooked us up with the red soul so unless he was just gonna leave Kris dead in a ditch while we played as the vessel it shouldn't be possible for us to have the same soul. There's the various connections between Kris and Cyan too. Somehow Kris and their evil bunker group chat co-conspirators knew about the red soul and its role in the prophecy and put it in Kris so they could manipulate the events of the game in their favor.
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>>573916030
She had a whole arc about trying to control Noelle tho
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>>573915879
Sounds like our brands of autism are radically different. I like things that surprise me, it's a nice feeling to be blindsided by something and then realize it's like what you wanted + things you didn't know you wanted. And sometimes it's good to be challenged by media as well and try to find the good in what you wouldn't consider if it wasn't attached to something you like.
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>>573915925
Good thing DJ isnt
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>>573915997
Both of your replies are certified Robotruths.
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if you fap to an anthro version of Netskie, you're a coward, Deltarune's Canon Netskies ftw
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>>573915879
>the game won't tell me what it even is about
It's a story, you're learning what it is about by playing it. You're buying a book and you expect the entirety of it to be written on the cover so you can know what's gonna happen before buying it. I don't wanna be rude but it seems like you don't know how to interact with the media properly
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>>573915881
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>>573914848
Hooman!
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=_K0IxwHb5P4
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being a ralsei fan is so stressful… don’t die… don’t be unhappy….
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>>573915997
Oh shit, you’re right. That probably has something to do with Flowery’s connections to Mettaton. His death talksprite is literally just Mettaton
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>>573915473
>>Snowdin bunny x Tasque Manager
Who's leashing who in this scenario?
>>573915512
>The Deltarune mechanics don't quite work like Undertale
Everyone says this but there's very little evidence for this. We know people seemingly know less about souls overall and don't know about magic but monsters can still use magic inherently in the dark world and Kris can't (for now). "Determination" (the measurable energy source that souls produce) still exists and while monsters apparently have enough to make dark worlds and maybe, probably bleed they don't have enough to leave corpses. Even if you want to say "well sans is probably from hometown and he bleeds" he still makes the dusting sound after he crawls off screen and you got exp so he has to have died. Kris and Noelle begin to drown in the lake, the knight battle flavor text describes the sensations of drowning and noelle's face becomes bathed in light before the game cuts and kris's soul physically emits light
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>>573915951
Step 1: Explode all your clothes off your body in a single move
Step 2: Start glowing like a rainbow
Step 3: FLY
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I love fish
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>>573916167
can I fap to Netskie (disguised as Aqua)?
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>>573915951
You need six of your closest friends to help you
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>>573915940
Thank you for putting some of my thoughts into words anon. Glad we're on the same wavelength
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>>573916217
Praise the boy
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>>573916121
>No it's a real video I just can't you any source of Toby posting it himself
Sure thing buddy
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>>573915715
actually disgusting
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>>573915401
>tv was right there in asgore's shop and instead of giving him a megazord omega flowery form that you have to climb on and topple in the 2d platformer mode he just made a rainbow twink and a shitty QTE
guess we already had the mech battles in chapter 2
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FLOWER MAN
FLOWER MAN
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>>573915427
>>573915879
There is absolutely so much foreshadowing but the problem is many of you are simply illiterate and hate analyzing the text and would rather pretend your headcanons are true
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>>573916229
>Flowery’s connections to Mettaton. His death talksprite is literally just Mettaton
wha-

you're right. same eye covered with hair. a cut on the same cheek mettaton has his face lines. what did toby mean by this.
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Asrielknight is actually peak if it's Asriel with Kris's soul. Kris and Asriel are literally doing the DR equivalent of the Undertale Chara and Asriel plan
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I still gotta do that Netskie x Radiation but I'm still unsure if I make him the bottom of a gangbang or the small top
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>>573915442
this will be noelle, susie, and kris's dynamic in 2027
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>>573916171
Books usually have decently trustworthy blurbs on the back telling what the story is about, Deltarune doesn't have that. Chapter 1 isn't a good representative of the rest of the game despite being essentially a demo you're meant to play and test the waters. It's also a game that doesn't commit to being an RPG, or a bullet hell, or a minigame maze, it's just not good at presenting itself at all
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>>573916201
susie will become carol's new daughter in weird route
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>>573916373
gastersissies they've got us pegged...
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>>573916367
>tv was right there in asgore's shop
Kris deliberately cucked you there
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>>573916231
well, toby said 'this is a different world that might have different rules' back when ch1 came out, i think because people were worried fighting would brick your save or something.
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>>573916383
>what did toby mean by this.
NTA but you will find out in Chapter 6 and 7 of Deltarune...
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>>573916368
Sorry anon, I moved on from listening to Flower Man with lyrics 24/7, now I'm listening to Cutie Mew Mew Magic
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>>573916383
I think it’s probably because they both aspire to become human. There’s a deeper significance there thematically I’m still thinking about.
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Meanwhile Undertale Mad Mew Mew
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>>573915940
>A whole leg of the journey is stopping a flower from killing himself and it's pretty morbid humor
i didn't find it funny either. asgore in undertale was the only character that can commit suicide on screen right in front of you. it's not treated like a joke, he literally gives up on living and you can do nothing but watch. in deltarune, justice feels like a parody of this part of asgore, reducing it to one big tasteless joke. it's all "haha, this guy's retarded and wants to die for no reason!"
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i'm only here to complete the mission

the mission?

to find my delta tacos
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>>573916373
Foreshadowing for what?
Please enlighten us
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The man behind the tree is Papyrus, simply because he had an Egg in the Undertale menu bit
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>>573916508
this is pinktranny cope
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>>573916483
>Chapter 1 isn't a good representative of the rest of the game despite being essentially a demo you're meant to play and test the waters.
Good thing Chapter 2 is included in the demo then.
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>>573916229
>Mettaton wants to take your soul so he can go be a star on the surface and prevent Asgore's war against humanity unlike the other monsters
>Flowery wants to keep his fountain open so he can create Asgore's perfect world and wants you to close yours
>Both have essentially selfish alternative solutions to the current main plot
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Why is pink trying to date minors?
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>Newfags learning about Co(a)L
Oh golly
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who is the hottest deltarune character
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>>573916478
meant for >>573915473 haha please decapitate me
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>>573916508
I want Kris and Pink to date while the Maddy is just forced to be along for the ride
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>>573916537
You guys just don't understand Family Guy / Smiling Friends humor
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>>573916529
Because monsters can only be NPCs and enemies without full agency over their lives while humans are protagonists
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Getting upset because your predictions for the game didn't come true is a strong sign of autism.
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>>573916691
me, my bf, and ralsei
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>>573916582
The Mission:
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>>573916678
Wait is this actually CoL? I thought he left.
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Why didn't Sealsie just swim across the lake?
>>573916636
I love Mettaton's narcissism I'm sure our glorious robot would have brought forth world peace on his own, so fucking cool...
>>573916691
Mettaton even if we can't see his ghost form his dialogue is already sexy.
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>>573916519
i will...

>>573916529
that is a VERY good point. and it also occurs to me that Pink is pretending to be the 'pink flower' which doesn't exist, while mettaton has a pink heart soul on his design that matches the fallen humans. they're both inserting themselves into the set fraudulently.
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Guys, what if there's two Knights? The Knight that caused Dess to disappear and Dess herself.
There's two Knight looking titans in the prophecy.
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>>573916668
Kris is 18 and they're allowed to have sex with whoever they want. Toby told me this
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>>573916668
shes 5 hours old
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>>573916691
objectively speaking it’s like toriel, susie, and probably kris himself and/or sans
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>>573916760
cruety
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>>573916727
yeah i expect deltarune to be funnier than either of those shows
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>>573916509
Yeah exactly. Looking back he's literally talking about the dark worlds working differently plus there's a ton of battles where fighting vs sparing ultimately doesn't matter or fighting is the only option
>>573916592
For the story in general? You're gonna pretend to be retarded either way but pick a plot point you think is super random and just exists to trick the audience and I can guarantee you there was some amount of build up to it that you missed or are purposefully ignoring
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The Weird Route really is "weird." It seems the actual road to the "true ending" will be the Late Abandoned Weird Route, since the game hammers you constantly that you need to take a middle road.

It obviously won't be Genocide Route 2.0 since neither Kris, YOU or Noelle are interested in killing people or destroying the world.

It seems you'll be completely disconnected from the mainline story and instead be put in completely different locations with a separate cast.

So it is a mystery wrapped inside an enigma.
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>>573916691
According to the game texts, apparently Susie and Asriel
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Tenna belongs to Kris, now and forever.
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>>573915940
I kinda know what you feel. I honestly wanted to hug the enitre Fun Gang by the end of this. But also I think the tone is kind of intentional. The "fun adventure" part is tongue-in-cheek, it's more like everyone is putting on their best smile even though the noose is getting tighter around their necks. Kris is barely able to hide their actions anymore. Ralsei's feeling serious growing pains. Susie is going full delusion mode. All of them are clinging to what they know, and it's slipping away. It's the fanfare of a dying parade.
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my internet was out for 12 hours and i couldn't look at any deltarune art since i haven't saved anything locally
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>>573916483
>Deltarune doesn't have that
IT'S A FUCKING MYSTERY STORY. I feel like I'm losing my mind, Toby didn't forget to tell you what's happening, the whole point is that you are slowly uncovering what's going on. On the surface it's just about stopping the Roaring, there's a guy opening fountains and you go into the Dark World, beat up legions of various guys and get to the end to close the fountain, that much is known and it's the very base of the game, it's been so since chapter 1. But there's so many other things that you have to uncover yourself, some of which may not be so relevant to the main plot, but finding out the truth about them is the reward itself. How do you expect Toby to tell you what the mystery is about without revealing the mystery?
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OUR FUARKIN HEROES

THANK YOU DELTARUNNERS
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>>573916768
He left for a while because of the bullying but was camping on /v/ instead from what I've heard, still shows up from time to time
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>>573916772
>Why didn't Sealsie just swim across the lake?
Gaster's crew would spot her and hunt her for her blubber
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>>573916619
Chapter 2 isn't great about it either. Berdly never gets to be more than a meme character. Noelle doesn't actually join the party for the next three chapters. The Weird Route never provides the same amount of content than it does in 2.
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>>573916851
i want to feel his smooth soft skin
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>the perfect ending to deltarune doesnt exis-
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Mad ghost stays inside because they arent allowed to be near schools but sadly this town is very small so just being outside makes them near a school
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>>573916691
Fuku fire, duh.
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Removed from all context I'd have no problem with Susie/Noelle, and yes it is telegraphed repeatedly in earlier chapters.
My problem with it is in context, it is less fun or interesting or compelling than the relationships (platonic or romantic) that it takes potential screen time from and even steps on.
Kris & Susie's friendship is holistically better to see. Ralsei's weird sort-of-one-sided love for Kris is interesting to watch. Susie's (platonic atm) love for Ralsei is compelling and interesting because of him being a Darkner and all the baggage with that. Kris & Noelle, whether as friends or nascent lovers, is a lot more fun, just fucking around with her in ch2 was one of the game's best character sections.
Susie/Noelle mostly takes what you like from other character pairings and appropriates or steps on them IMO.
In the ch4 house section Noelle feels the need to "disown" a lot of her history with Kris to signal the reality that she is available to Susie. You see Kris visibly hurt. In chapter 5 they have Kris third wheel and then shut down Berdly from having ANYONE to hang out with at the festival lol. Susie makes Catti sob and end her friendship with Noelle. (Okay, this one is partly on Catti for sure, she's the one making it a line in the sand and clearly she had a crush on Noelle that she couldn't communicate. I just didn't love Noelle & Susie's reaction, it's more just an example of how the game has been intentionally written for this relationship to hurt so many people's feelings lol)
Then at the lake we see Susie is having Noelle sing fry songs at the bench, something which in chapter 4 had been a thing Susie shared with Kris. But now Susie says "oh but it can nice to just be the two of us haha..." In chapter 4 you could have Susie and Kris share a great moment at the lake at night, then in chapter 5 Susie outright says she's not interested in Kris & Susie visiting that spot again with the implication that space is for Susie to be with Noelle now.
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>>573916946
...and Temmie.
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>>573916985
no kris or vessel. objectively the bad ending
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>>573916691
Heats Flamesman
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>>573916779
>Pink is pretending to be the 'pink flower' which doesn't exist, while mettaton has a pink heart soul on his design that matches the fallen humans.
The bodies that ghosts possess are called "vessels" after all.
Also, the 7 Flying Aces have exactly one pink Rudinn and there's actually eight of them. Much to consider, much to consider.
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I'm going to commission some (straight) Pink (from Deltarune) porn.
Dou you guys have any silly suggestions?
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>>573916772
Looking back mettaton fills such an interesting niche in Undertale. He's basically the only major boss fight that isn't a "friend" you can date or really shows up on the true pacifist route. However he's still super important lorewise when you dig into things and he's there during the true pacifist meetup with Asgore just off screen and ig runs off back to the farm after the fight
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>>573916985
I love all of these goobers so much.
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>>573917052
What's wrong with /ourgirl/? At this point deltarune is as much hers as it is toby's
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>>573916985
Susie realizing that her world is a video game but instead of being dejected and experiencing an existential crisis instead becoming happy because it means she and her friends all basically occupy the same level of reality and can be together
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>>573916982
fucked up that two images of him shaved exist. stop that it feels like gore
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>>573916421
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>>573917156
Beauty standards are getting out of hand...
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>>573916945
Whatever, I don't like mystery stories where I have to wait 10 years to finally uncover the mystery and have to cross my fingers it won't suck and disappoint me. Either do it all at once or don't, or give more clues the story is going routes I don't enjoy so I can drop out earlier.
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>>573917120
Berdly would wake up with dicks drawn all over his face and one up his ass hopefully
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>>573916878
>Who is the knight?
>What is the knight?
>What is up with Ralsei?
>What is the deal with the shadow crystals and eggs?
>Why does Hometown feel so small and fake?
>What happened to Onionsan?
I feel like all of these are just pointless mystery boxes made to string fans along. None of them will be answered and we are just heading towards a big gooey power of friendship ending
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>>573915252
literally nobody not a single person wants you just kys and stop asking. you have to keep asking bc nobody wants you
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>>573916945
i really hope the evidence battle is a leadup to a lightworld bit where susie tries to deduce who the knight is, while kris destroys all the evidence along the way without her seeing
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>>573917008
Anon, if you think Susie is meant to be a positive character you've let your bias shine through.
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So does this Friend also have four weewees?
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>>573917171
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Are this guy's eyes closed? I've been seeing it as dot eyes with eyebags this entire time
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>>573916945
CoL cannot be reasoned with
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>>573916668
Why are Papyrus and Undyne trying to date a minor?
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>>573917304
Yes and they're all barbed
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I try to play DR without interacting with the community, but I am breaking that to ask a very important question.

Is Chapter 5 Weird Route supposed to be erotic or am I just broken? Noelle twisted and almost mindbroken into a euphoric sense of freedom, dominating her until she blossoms into a liberated girl. She is showing Kris and the Soul the deepest pits of herself, feverish with a need to break away and hear out commands once again.

All while Kris is stuck tormented as their childhood friend sinks them both in what is very clearly a lover's suicide. Forced to watch.
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>>573917240
>all of the dicks are drawn in different style and you can tell who drew which one
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>>573917107
make sure she's wearing torn pantyhose
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>>573916945
We are 5 chapter in and have uncovered nothing
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Agatha Christie RAPED me with the Murder of Roger Ackroyd.
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>>573915932
>It is 2 AM
>I will turn you into an egg
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>OP articulates that people obsess over Kris's gender instead of the game itself while project their identities onto them
>reply somehow ignores every single point and proceeds to make a strawman

Having no reading comprehension should be a bannable offense.
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>>573917156
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>>573916960
Are you seriously complaining because the game doesn't just repeat itself endlessly? What kind of autism is this. Yeah Deltarune sucks because after Chapter 2 I assumed Berdly would be an important character in every future chapter and now he isn't the game has lied to me and it's bad.
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>>573917132
Hometown isn't a simulation or video game. That would completely remove the point of both the Dark Worlds and Susie's personal arc.
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>>573917239
Then you probably should wait till 2035 when all the chapters are out instead of complaining that you're not getting the full experience in 5 out of 7 chapters, sorry Anon
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>>573916985
>Trans Ralsei
No, fuck off with that shit. Ralsei is a Femboy, not mentally ill.
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>>573916945
You have to accept that many of these people are functionally illiterate mongoloids that need to be spoon-fed by the narrative and if the narrative is something they don't like they will just shit and piss themselves and say it was bad. These people don't know what they want they just want it to make them feel and comfy
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>>573916691
Spamton
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>>573917354
Papyrus is retarded and also probably a child too
And undyne isnt dating a minor because Alphys is like waaaay older then a kid
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>>573916582
i'm only here to complete the missionary

the missionary?

to find susies delta taco
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>>573917282
>thinking a girl would ever be portrayed negatively in a modern story
lol
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>>573916958
I won't forgive Dr. W. D. Gaster...
>>573917105
That's very very interesting I keep hyping myself up for Mettaton's return... I trust Toby to not fumble it.
>>573917119
I fully agree with you, he is really so unique and should be considered a main character in every sense and yet isn't, I like this part from the Mettaknight theory:
>"Mettaton is a major character who is non-optional, but is also explicitly not a main character. His most obvious foil is a heroic Knight. We don’t know what his former name and appearance really were. He has connections to the True Lab and Sans, but these are left unexplored. He has more Gaster connections than he should, and probably the most connections to the cut character Grandpa Semi. Toby had to make a boss fight area and some lackeys for the character, and he chose to make them fantasy themed with references to Deltarune."
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>>573917240
>spoiler
I claim his mouth
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>>573917390
are you seriously using a screencap of a bait post on /utg/ as bait on /utg/. we're getting recursive with it now?
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>>573917390
>OP insists that his headcanons are right and people who disagree with him are heckin' wrong
>replies call him retarded
ohhh wow oh my god wow what an occurrence wow you're so vindicated and smart
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>>573917442
Politics aside, people drew Ralsei in skirts way before the trans stuff
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>>573916946
I'm confused as to why the "(producer)" in parenthesis when the others refer to alternate names/handles and the actual functions of the rest of the team are not specified
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I pray for Toby to replace redundant content in Chapters 3&4 (and possibly 5 if there is a sword route)
I pray for Ralsei to have sex with a woman or to remain single.
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>>573917008
susie has proven to be selfish and just keeps gathering more and more stuff to hoard all while (you) and Kris do the hard work. she's clearly being set up for a fall but unfortunately she still has the white pen of hope so she'll probably get everything she wants. kris will probably sacrifice themselves then Susie and Noelle will make out on their grave.
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/v/ lost again.
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>>573917119
my TrueTheory that i believe with all my soul is that Mettaton is Toby's fan oc-turned-personal oc based on Brandish, as the NEO body has brandish hair.
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>>573917442
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>>573917413
I want the game to live by some of its teasing and promises. The game teases you might go with Berdly to the festival in two consecutive chapters, it gives you an option to say "who Kris would like to go to the festival" which doesn't matter, what can I do when the game is misleading me? I guess Kris was talking to Papyrus in the kitchen phone call then, might as well not expect anything out of it.
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so assuming the whole vessel process went according to plan where the fuck would the vessel have appeared and where the fuck would it stay in the castle town? Just a random human appears in a monster town in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and waddles into the school closet?
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Imagine
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>>573917442
>Ralsei is [mentally ill], not mentally ill
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>>573917390
op aint lying
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>>573917442
tbf ralsei has been drawn with a skirt since chapter 1, but it's really sad that the first thing I also thought seeing the picture was "is this trans ralsei?"
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>>573917119
I think a Mettatenna possession plot to mirror Pink's will probably happen at some point and we'll get some more Mettaton content linked to it. Probably not a boss fight though, but maybe he could come hang in Castle Town and commit workplace harassment against the Mikes.
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>>573917390
the best part about it is that toby will never concede and say kris is nonbinary. scraps of validation that can be easily read in a different way are all the blue haired ninnies get. in a way it feels like toby realizes there’s no reason to ruin what could be a game fondly remembered several decades from now with a mindset that will inevitably fade as reality catches up with its believers. bless toby
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>>573916779
Mettaton is actually more important to the story of Deltarune right now than Sans and Papyrus, even though he hasn’t made a direct appearance. He has been mentioned in every Chapter except as far as I know 4.
>the true and NEO chaos
>spamton NEO
>tenna is a neurotic showman like mettaton who we actually literally can give to mettaton
>we’ll make ‘em NEO, NEO programs…
>flowery is connected to mettaton and he’s the main chapter boss
I think it’s probably much more a thematic significance than a literal importance to the events of the story, like he isn’t the Knight or anything, but there’s 120% something here.
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>>573917527
>forgetting about her
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>>573917536
>and probably the most connections to the cut character Grandpa Semi
He also shares this with Alphys since the 2013 demo has a single line of test dialogue for him where he orders a pepperoni pizza on the phone, like the Alphys fun event call in Snowdin
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Haha, imagine being Asriel here. Staring into Chara's eyes and holding their hands at Waterfall.
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>>573917841
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>>573917261
Kris...
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>>573917527
Chloe from "Life Is Strange"
Galfrey from "Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous"
Dolores Ingrund from "Disco Elysium"
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>>573917764
>The game teases you might go with Berdly to the festival in two consecutive chapters
Did you actually pay attention to what happens if you pick those options? If you thought you would be going to the festival with Berdly i'm sorry but you are retarded.
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>>573917810
>noelle is crying about her dead dad in susie's arms
>mettaton is in the background breaking a chair over battat's head
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>>573917770
kris belly erotic
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>>573917810
I will never forgive Toby if he makes Tenna disappear and fuse into another character because of apparently there are not enough tranny allegories in the game already, clearly keeping him in the closet is the good ending here.
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>>573917927
nice boobies frisk
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>>573917650
I don't agree with the post itself, but I do think said reply made a strawman since OP didn't say he sees Kris as a self insert. Also most replies actually agreed with OP...
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>>573917876
she's planning to sacrifice susie to bring back dess. not evil. Carol's doing a civic good by getting rid of the dino
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>Bait hours this early
Grim
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>>573916804
The knight could be an inherited role that passes from kidnapper to the one who was kidnapped; the middle titan looks like Asgore in armor because he could become the new knight or a titan. The knight went after Undyne when she showed up because she was a better pick than Toriel.
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>>573917810
>I think a Mettatenna possession plot to mirror Pink's will probably happen at some point
Anon I... The secret bosses are done anon and we already got our "mettaton" battle remember? We know what happened with the lonely ghost, they gave up on their dream body and now we've given them tenna
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>>573917803
i swear i wanted to make this post but i didn’t want to argue about it. i agree though. i wont know peace until official merch drops that calls him a boy or chapters 6/7 come out
not that i think the “””theory””” has any real grounds to stand on, of course, it just sucks that there’s no good way to shut these tralsei retards up
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>>573917967
>OP didn't say he sees Kris as a self insert.
Do you think that if someone doesn't explicitly admit something, it isn't true?
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>>573918009
grim telly
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>>573917937
Why not? I didn't think it would be an actual date, I wanted to see it as a joke date meant to piss Kris off which would be funny, but not even that happened.
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>>573917360
SADLY there is zero romance between Kris and Noelle because Fox just fucking hates heterosexuality
If he wasn't such a subhuman fucking retard he could've made it le TOXIC relationship where they love ach other but it hurts them or something, but in the actualy game it's just
>You are hecking evil for wanting Noelle to be with Kris
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>only 3 hours of sleep
I think its time I head to bed..
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>>573916717
She won't be "along for the ride" for very long because the most her body kisses Kris the less she'll be able to resist savoring every moment and she'll eventually give in, insecurities and stubborness will vanish and both her halves will just melt in a passionate embrace with the boy they can't deny they both love. I give her less than an hour before ghost and body completely submerge into each other in a passionate, lusty trance that changes her forever.
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I can't wait to get back to favposting and cuntboy kris posting
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>>573917740
Maybe Mettaton just really loves Brandish and based his dream transition body on the designs there because Brandish is the only game in the Deltarune world not based on the prophecy.
>>573917810
>he could come hang in Castle Town and commit workplace harassment against the Mikes.
God I wish I were Battat...
>>573917884
That's fucking awesome I had no idea thank you for sharing!!! I'm keeping this in mind, aw Mettaton would look so cute eating pizza...
>>573918036
The secret bosses aren't done, only the shadow crystals are, we can easily have more secret battles without them giving us a shadow crystal.
also check this out: https://rentry.org/tennasgettingpossessed
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>>573914958
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>>573918093
>The game didn't do my headcanon so it's bad
At least you're honest I guess
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>3 whole hours of sleep
That should be good for the next 2 days
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>>573918079
what reason do i have to believe that person is lying… i also see kris as a guy and i dont self insert either. it seems like it would suit your arguments/beliefs better if anyone who saw the blatant toby self insert as themselves though
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after this I think Im done with deltarune for good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WdkcB9V2mc
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I dreamt about the release and the contents of Deltarune chapter 6. Toby was greedy this time and did a DLC model that I will explain later. The Dark World was the Holiday family home, the outside had sinnoh videogame nostalgia vibes (gen 4 pokemon) and the inside was an actual house of horrors. It had 2 main parts, an upper inside part that looked like it was charred, here 5 (3) characters chased you around like it was some sort of horror game, they were doppelgangers of the family, but they looked straight out of an analog horror thing, charred and unrecognizable, their eyes being the whitest part of the body: First were "Daddy" (Rudolph) and "Mommy" (Carol) which had a behavior where'd they'd try to corner you together like pac-man ghosts, then was the "Dog", which was an unrecognizable grey flesh mound on two legs with its tongue sticking out of a deformed mouth with sharp teeth which would chase you like there was no tomorrow, was faster than all the others, and that you had to trick in order for it to leave you alone, then there was "Daughter" (Noelle), which was a little doppelganger version of Noelle which stil had all the doppelganger features of her parents, and she would show up randomly when you were in a room to throw projectiles, then finally was the most controversial part: the 'Brothers", which were undiscernabke nen, one shorter and fatter, and one skinnier and taller that were included IN A DLC STYLE PAYMENT to add extra monsters to chase you around FOR 20$ dollars, their chase pattern was random. (1/2)
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>>573917432
I dunno what else to say, I was having a pretty good experience for the last four chapters, but I really didn't like Chapter 5 and it's a big bummer to see something you invested so much in suddenly let you down. I wasn't even living by crazy theories I hoped so badly would happen, it was just not very fun and interesting. Now I have to cut my emotional attachment to Deltarune so the same doesn't happen again with Chapter 6. Maybe this is a lesson I should never let myself be invested in incomplete works ever again.
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>>573918207
>WING DINGS
>7 WING DINGS?!
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>>573917876
Kris betrayed all his friends and family to tap this...
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>>573918270
if you think that someone comes to the conclusion that the ~30 pixels tall faceless character with three individual walk frames "walks like a dude" without self inserting, I don't know what to tell you.
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>>573917156
I blame Joel
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>>573916985
This unironically looks like the real ending of this game
>Kris is dead because he's like evil male or something
>Everyone else is happy becasue they are wholesome and good
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>>573918095
the weird route is very romantic, it’s just a toxic sort of romance
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>>573918284
the second part of the house was the "Basement", which looked like some sort of goner lab, only even more monochrome, with the flooring and walls having no detail, being gray blocks all across, and in this section you had to wait for "Daughter" to appear in order to bait her into throwing projectiles at some enemies in order to be able to unlock a switch that lead to a new portion of the house. This section was less of a chase one chase, with only "Daughter" and "Brothers" being present, but to account for it, it was filled with a LOT of generic "Guardian" enemies which had normal battles instead of chasing you around: they looked like mass produced royal guards, filling every room of this section, and it seems their purpose was to annoy the player. After unlocking the new room upstairs, you had to do one of 2 things before proceeding to it, either get into a battle with the "Brothers" and do a specific ACT with them (if you had bought the DLC), or have "Daughter" accidentally kill some guardian enemies with her projectiles (Non-DLC), and you would gain an item for this that looked like one of those papers you find on Chinese ghost's heads, which had the effect of repelling "Guardians". When you finally reached the room, there would be an encounter with two "Guardians" blocking the door, and you had to perform an ACT, depending on whether you had the DLC or not, either the brothers would appear and steal a thorn ring off of one of the Guardians and give it to you in a funny interaction (DLC), or you would steal it yourself with the Guardian being too scared to do anything because of your item. If you forgot to do the previous step, or don't ACT within 3 turns, you would lose the chance at getting the thorn ring, and if you had gotten one before, you would lose that one too (You felt your thornring falling out of your pocket). It seems to have been a secret way to either let the player get 2 rings, or to let someone on a pacifist playthrough get one.(2/2)
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>>573918039
it's going to be a long wait...
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>>573918394
Not the TADC ending again.....
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>>573916668
because she's a replica of the youtuber exclaiminc who is also dating a minor (compare the sprites im not kidding), she was a confirmed guest star in the unused credits before they found out about her
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>>573917884
i wonder if it means anything that papyrus is 6 (gaster number), and mettaton is 13 (the bad luck number)
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>>573916985
Yeah, what a good ending! Kris is fucking dead and he paid the price for making Dess vanish.
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>>573917718
Susie’s a dragon. She’s called the Dragon by Gerson. Dragons hoard shit and kidnap princesses. Knights slay dragons and rescue princesses.
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well didn't get a Ch5 update here did we
what faces is he (still) hiding from us
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>>573918376
it was likely exaggeration to make his point ur autistic
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>>573917765
The vessel would have retconned Kris out of existence and taken their role as Toriel's adopted human child. It's the world you see in the shadow crystals, (You)r own lost dream.
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>>573917810
Mettaton will never have any significant relevance in Deltarune, he exists off screen purely for fanservice to show that Toby wrote superior Mettaton when he created Tenna and Spamton.
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Tenna —> base, box Mettaton
Flowery —> Mettaton EX
Spamton NEO —> Mettaton NEO
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>>573918039
Fangamer will release Ralsei in a dress in like two months and it will officially call him "princess" so brace yourself.
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>>573918535
assriel or dessnuts
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>>573918543
>moving the goalposts
if you can't make a point without exaggerating bullshit to make your post longer, I'm not going to listen to you
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>>573918460
im so glad toby isnt an ugly tranny who jerks it to women being turned into balloons. if he was i’d be scared but i know he’s just an autistic chad
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>>573918394
>>Kris is dead because he's like evil male or something
Evil female actually and she's the angel's desire so she's just in some cage in the depths at our mercy
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>>573918036
First of all, secret bosses aren't done, shadow crystals are done. Second of all, if you bothered to read until the end of my post, you would see that I specifically said he probably won't have a battle. Dumbass.
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>>573918315
Genuinely, what did you expect of chapter 5? Especially after Tobert advertised it as "the last fun adventure"? It served its purpose well, it had a little plot relevance and a LOT of fun, the whole platforming thing might be the best addition to the game so far. Sure, it didn't tell us how the story's gonna end, what's the Knight and co.'s big plan or whether or not we'll break the prophecy, but it wasn't meant to do those things. It gave us little tid bits and was overall a fun, somewhat lighthearted adventure, as it was advertised. If you put some big hopes into getting a massive lore dump from it, that's kinda on you
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>>573918370
plap
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>>573917424
Flowery literally explained to her that the universe functions on video game logic and mechanics and she didnt give a fuck, she'll get the reveal that hometown is a video game and fake and give the same response she gave Ralsei. The whole point of the Dark Worlds is that just because something isnt "Real" doesnt make it worthless or pointless. This will also tie into Toby's fever dream, something that wasnt real but is the entire reason he's where he is now
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>>573917390
Look, no matter how much you hate Deltarune's fandom, Kris is non-binary whether you like it or not. Telling others to not project their headcanons onto Kris, yet saying he "walks like a guy" is literally so ironic it invalidates OP's entire point.
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>>573918095
>SADLY there is zero romance between Kris and Noelle

Have you played the game? Noelle constantly thinks about Kris, including during her fucking date with Susie.

Combined with what she reveals in WR it cannot be more obvious she doesn't need Susie in a romantic way.
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>>573917969
half the fandom thinks she's going to go "mwahaha all according to keikaku" when rudy croaks
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>>573918679
He's also incredible submissive and bends over to any demands so he will listen to anything Twitter wants
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Taking care of my husband...
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>>573917939
I guarantee there's going to be the most insanely stupid and funny bullshit happening in the background during these otherwise serious chapters
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>>573918730
nap
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>>573918735
>The whole point of the Dark Worlds is that just because something isnt "Real" doesnt make it worthless or pointless.

The Dark Worlds are a source of the upcoming apocalypse. They're a destructive delusion that not only doesn't give anything back, it cannot even sustain you.

We know Hometown is real, as opposed to Dark Worlds, because the food and drinks actually offer sustenance.

The Dark Worlds are an allegory for unhealthy escapism.
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>>573918483
i hope you're right anon. i think that'd be really cool but I get the feeling toby's gonna be like oh you killed your friend you should feel bad
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>>573918679
Chapter 5 confirms that Toby is a cunnysseur, so you have nothing to worry about!
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>>573918627
yeah... I can't wait...
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Susie walked around calling people "nonce" interchangeably with "dumbass" endearingly because she overheard the word on TV once without knowing what it meant until she got detention for calling Berdly one in front of Toriel.

Susie broke a finger once didn't want to admit she broke it falling down in a dumpster to the school nurse so she went in the school bathroom and punched a wall a bunch while crying really hard and it eventually healed but it was all messed up and crooked.

Susie loiters in a space around the perfume section of a mall thinking she's being subtle about liking to sniff them sometimes but when a nice lady came out and asked if she'd finally like to sample some on the house she stormed off in embarrassment and never went back.

One year Susie got too excited on the last day of school and tried to jokingly kick a soccer ball right over another girls head for fun but it ended up hitting her in the face so hard she started crying and Susie had to run away so nobody would see her also start crying.
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I'm in love with that big yellow in the whiteboard
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Probably the funnies thing about Deltarune is that if you look at the MC trio, Kris literally just works for the "enemy",Ralsei knows about it so he also effectively works for them, while Susie doesn't know shit
So the plot of the game is Susie walking around having fun with her enemies
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>>573918627
Fuck you're so right, we're definitely getting a princess Ralsei costume
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>>573918474
Mettaton will return as the 444 guy to contrast 666 and 777 and 999...
>>573918601
The best characters in the game are based off Mettaton, thank you for the reminder!!!!!
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>>573919007
I don’t like how much this is literally me to a very accurate degree
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There are no good girlfriend candidates to make Ralsei straight.
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Now I can’t stop thinking about it WHY IS METTATON (a ghost) HAUNTING THE NARRATIVE
He gets mentioned every Chapter multiple bosses and secret bosses are thinly veiled references to him
Is he going to pop up in Chapter 7 as the surprise secret boss while MEGALOGLAMOUR blasts in the background
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>>573918971
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>>573918989
That'll be $72 plus shipping and handling and tip.
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>>573918720
To be fair, the "the last fun adventure" part was only two weeks before release. I wanted Susie and Noelle to develop a dynamic and not just tell each other how much they love each other on repeat, I hoped the Weird Route wouldn't be just a cliffhanger. Ralsei has his character development, cool. Still doesn't make an impression on me because it's all reliant on the tragedy of the prophecy and not doing things the things he wants to do because of... reasons the game still won't tell me, so I just have to trust they're very good reasons. The flowers are okay as a self-contained story. I don't like the lack of choice I cannot fight the bosses in this chapter.
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Why is FRIEND a sexy black yandere now?
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>>573919181
This post is making a Ralsusiefag seethe, I just know it
Also you can't 'turn' someone straight or gay
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>>573916889
Gerson said something like that. "Read between the lines" to make your own story. Seems like that might be it.
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Toby will never make fujoshit Mettatenna happen because he supports Burgerpants raping Mettaton
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>>573918745
kinda scary how this is the only logical reply to the bait post.
/utg/ has devolved into schizo tripfag drama, baiting and softcore rule34. it was so much better back then.
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>>573919301
There are no Ralsusiefags. They were all exterminated during the First Fave War
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Like seriously WHAT THE FUCK the Chapter boss was Mettaton EX and the secret boss was Mettaton’s cousin WHAT IS GOING ON
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>>573919267
How you've played Deltarune for the last 5 chapters and have these complaints about it is beyond me.
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Dammit i dont have time for a bit
Pretend this is super heckin epic for the lulz
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>This is who I'm supposed to trust
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Just accept Ralsei is trooning out and forget about him before the bomb drops. It'll be easier for you.
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>>573919187
Because he is the Knight or working with the Knight!! we are just one of the few enlightened people able to recognize the very obvious foreshadowing Toby is doing with him.
I think people literally just ignore his very important presence in the game because their brains are wired wrong and they think "umm we can't see him so he's not important" as if that's not the case with Gaster as well!!
>>573919339
I really want to know what Toby is planning with Burgerpants since there are now 3 different routes for his love quest and none of them are related to Mettaton...
>>573919372
He is important!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I told you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>573919372
How it was Mettaton EX? Flowery uses orange SOUL which was never used in UT, and the battle mechanic was completely new.
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It feels so right being a Ralsei hater from the demo
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wake me up when the threads stop being so annoying
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>>573919181
* Me
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>>573919496
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>>573919618
Its all because he took off that hat man, he rejected the black mage design and look where it got him
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>>573917156
Ralsei could be sentient fabric. This could in fact be gore. Do you think if you pluck a single Ralsei hair it's like ripping out a nerve ending?
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>>573919376
Is it?
I expect different things from the beginning of the story and things in the latter half towards the final act of the story. Am I wrong for asking for some clarification on what exactly Ralsei is so afraid of, so I can understand his woes better instead of blindly trusting the narrative? I was also waiting for Susie and Noelle to get good, I was told time and time again to give it more time, well, they were given more time, and it wasn't very good.
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>>573919335
I’d assume that Gerson is saying “trick the prophecy” or “you can fulfill the spirit of the prophecy and not the literal interpretation” but because we don’t know what the last prophecy actually says we don’t know how it could be subverted yet.
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>>573919607
Look at his death talk sprite
Listen to his voice lines
Look at his motivations
They’re super deeply connected
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What if Ralsei gets horribly deformed in his death in ch7 and Toby still turns that into a plush like the jar of spamton's ashes from the sweepstakes
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>>573919607
NTA but same mannerisms, same desire to be human, has voice lines just like Mettaton, similar hairstyle, poses, etc.
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Is Kralsei official now?
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Ooouugghh sexy dealer Tenna...
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>>573918807
>He's also incredible submissive and bends over to any demands
if you mean the chapter 4 scene then that makes sense. he was working with nintendo. it’s bad press to have hordes of people call something in your game for kids rape symbolism
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>>573915496
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMiy9LE71iQ
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>>573919913
ralsei heals kris til they MAX
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>>573919759
Of course it could be “oh we can’t let the player/soul see the prophecy or else it can’t be stopped” and if you’ve ever heard of Ever17 you might guess what it could be going for, but I’m discounting it because I believe Toby isn’t going to make any reveals a “wait what” and require people to watch a lore video on YouTube to understand, it needs to be either “oh shit” or “YEEEAAAAAHHHHH”
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>>573919187
The UT ghost trio were an early exploration of Deltarune's SOUL/vessel concept. Rather than everything being a reference to Mettaton, Mettaton is a reference to the same thing all these other things are referencing, that being the central concept of the divide between player and player character, soul and body, your self and the fictional characters you see yourself in.
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>>573919913
i am okay with kralsei but this probably signals a point where their hp will be combined somehow rather than anything gay. ralsei likes him as a friend and a leader and maybe he wants to be the leader but desu there’s nothing romantic
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>>573919759
Gerson straight up says you can't "look so closely you can't see where you're walking." The point is not and will never be analyzing the prophecy super hard to try and "trick it" the point is to do the right thing, to be a true hero regardless of where it leads and trust somehow everything will pay off. This is also consistent with his portrayal and beliefs in undertale where he says very similar things about the much less in-your-face (but still incredibly relevant) prophecy
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>>573919913
>"Guys Toby DEFINITELY hasnt given more control of the story to his team, stop coping"
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>>573919913
you think toby reads all the code?
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Deltarune is part of the furry holy trannity with Sonic and Pokemon
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>>573919913
if Kris loves Ralsei so much, why does he keep making dark fountains?
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>>573919913
Most likely just a little joke, but I can appreciate it
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>>573919713
True. He looked much much much cuter as a shadow guy
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>>573919792
>death talk sprite
Both have human features so of course they look similar
>voice lines
Generic anime hero talk or Flowey quotes
>motivations
Strongly linked to Asgore's happiness while Mettaton wanted to be an entertainer
>super deeply connected
In headcanons maybe, only connection is that Alphys like anime boys and it's anime world partially affected by Alphys
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>>573919913
This is based thoughe'er
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>>573920159
You’re in denial
And that’s okay
You’ll come around eventually
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>>573920051
>+800
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>>573919372
>kris hates anime yet made the chapter anime specifically because mettaton is the knight
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What if Dess isn't the Knight...?
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>>573918950
>t-theres a character who ive skewed to fit my fetishes!! t-t-toby is just like me!!
by this metric he’s also a cuckold and a femboyfag
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>>573920210
This is true, whenever people start going mad at Mettaton obviously being foreshadowed as something bigger I just have to sit down and remember "I don't need to argue, Toby will prove me right in the next chapters."
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>>573920096
>seething chuddy
your tourist /v/isa has expired go back to your shithole if you can't discuss Deltarune coherently
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>>573920239
>Ralsei, don't you know Kris flirts with everyone?
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>>573920297
I still think Kris just doesn't like Alphys' take on anime specifically
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>>573920312
No one ever said he's not
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>>573919339
Toby said that Mettapants was specifically Burgerpants's best ship *in Undertale*. So not Pizzapants's or Mettaton's best ship in Deltarune. Mettaton will fuse with Tenna so he can commit atrocities against Battat and recreate the UT Mettapants dynamic.
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>>573920352
>Kris and Ralsei have learned Extinction Meteorite
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>>573919913
Kralsei is even worse than Suselle. It doesn't serve the story, it brings nothing to Kris' character and lessens Ralsei's character, its only saving grace is you can choose to not trigger most of its scenes
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>>573920326
>12:25
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>>573920352
Ralsei quietly and demurely accepting Kris's cock after he's attended to the rest of his harem…. Hot, actually…
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>>573920142
That and removing every single problem that comes from looking like post-transition Asriel and refusing to ever explain why or even acknowledge it as a bad thing actually means I can look at him and not have a constantly pinging danger radar in my head. With the hat he's just a silly mage
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>>573920096
>typo in the code means the programmers are writing the game
What?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znKwOfEk6VE
Toby knew.
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>>573919187
i dont think any prominent undertale character will amount to much in deltarune
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Is Aqua the Roaring Knight?
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>>573920372
Kris doesn't need to watch anime.
Kris is anime
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>>573920078
I am inclined to agree but the NEO stuff that has been getting dropped makes me think there’s even more here
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>>573920092
You’re right Susie will just believe in herself so hard that she’ll get a throuple with Noelle and Kris and save all the darkners and Ralsei will do her school project and she’ll get to adventure every day and never confront anything more than temporary hardships.
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I feel like everyone in deltarune hates me despite me having absolutely no control over anything
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>>573920419
I don't need it if it has Lightmixing degeneracy
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>>573920419
>Mettaton will fuse with Tenna so he can commit atrocities against Battat and recreate the UT Mettapants dynamic.
I'm so fucking excited!!! More Mettaton and Tenna while at the same time having more Battat abuse!!! yes!!!!!!
>>573920608
Sans? Gaster? Mad Mew Mew?
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>>573919301
You can turn a character straight or gay from an unconfirmed position.
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im gonna fucking stab kris if i ever get back into my proper vessel
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I went to the library today and sat and read a book for the first time in like a decade
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Do you guys remember the SURVEY_PROGRAM days
When everyone saw Dark World Kris for the first time collapsed on the ground
The first thing a TON of people asked was “why did I turn into Mettaton”
“why do I look so much like Mettaton”
“am I kid Mettaton?”
the pink and blue
IS THERE SOMETHING HERE
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>>573920461
ralsei has been worshipful of kris since chapter one and there are several instances of kris fighting us when we try to make them be mean to him
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>>573920461
>it brings nothing to Kris' character and lessens Ralsei's character
On the contrary, it brings an interesting subtle dynamic and makes for a cute romance.
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>>573920757
was the book good
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Never forget how mad dummy won
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>>573920746
i'm gonna stab kris's ass with my dick til he moans like a girl
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>had to use 4 healing items to beat jackensteiner
>had to use 1 to beat spamton
I fucking kneel...
Jackensteiner is so lame on replays
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>>573920674
Noelle unironically loves YOU.
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Deltarune just might be the greatest trainwreck project of the modern day
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>>573920563
>potentially has a point in saying programmers arent writers
>out of nowhere has to insist kralsei is suddenly a "typo"
You sound defensive enough to be the guy who put that in the code
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>>573920618
>Kris when they go full anime
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>>573920734
>sans
yes i really dont think he'll do anything
>gaster
id argue that gaster more than sans was meant to be a leadup to deltarune, but regardless i dont think gaster will ever be mentioned even when the game ends and will continue being what he is now
>mad mew mew
yea she wasnt prominent
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>>573920810
youll have to do it after me. that bony twink ass is mine…
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four foot seven the incel man
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>>573920787
And Ralsei's worship of Kris is one of the worst parts of his character. It's annoying that he's meant to fight for what he wants but he wants to follow whatever Kris is doing.
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>>573920856
not even fucking close
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Just learned the Tenna dating sim isn't actually a Tenna dating sim
Fucked up world, at least I didn't play it yet so I didn't end up edged and blueballed to infinity, I would've been pissed
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>>573920660
Why is it that the self insert cuckolds are always the most illiterate? Are they illiterate because they're cuckolds or cuckolds because they're illiterate? If you can't understand how Undertale's story may relate to Undertale's then idk what to tell you
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Reminder Noelle likes SOUL and not Kris
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>>573920793
It was browsing the opening parts of a poem collection. I mainly wanted to be sure I wanted to actually read it. I checked that and a few other things out. I don't think I'm very good at understanding poetry yet but I think I'll improve.
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>>573920297
>>573920618
Kris is the typical weeb who is ashamed of their on tastes, so they pretend to hate anime and tried SO HARD to hide it from Susie, Noelle AND the player, but the reality is that they deeply love anime, just look at their reaction towards Mew Mew, they love that stuff
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>>573920674
anon play the weird route. Noelle and (you) and maybe Carol, normalnpc, and sans are the only real people on hometown. Noelle loves (you)
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am bored and tired, should i sleep or should i fight?
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>>573920978
for me its one of the best parts its cute and i hope kralsei becomes canon. im having a great time
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>>573920787
>there are several instances of kris fighting us when we try to make them be mean to him
All of which are post-ch2, when the writing made a clear shift in direction and suddenly started doing things like acknowledging community memes in the game itself. Before that Kris would absolutely destroy something Ralsei lovingly made for him right in front of his eyes if we told him to
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>>573920784
Probably not but uhhh sure! Mettaton stalks Kris because he's obsessed with humans and Kris is a human and that's why the Knight decided to groom Kris (Mettaton is the knight) this made Kris subconsciously shape their appearance to be more Mettaton-like... maybe.
>>573920894
I forgot to add Asgore who had an entire chapter with him as the focus, as for the rest I think I just disagree with you but we'll just have to wait and see what Toby has in store for Sans and Gaster, maybe you'll be right but I doubt it I'm a Gaster believer.
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Flowery is Rudy and Asriel placed in a blender
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>>573921001
Self-shippers deserve to suffer, Tenna is Kris' property
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>>573920982
Who do you nominate then?
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>>573920978
If it wasn’t for Susie yoinking Ralsei in the streets of Cyber World he’d have met and interacted with Noelle in combat and go “oh wow she can equip ribbons and swords… oh shit.”
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back from colleg when?
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>>573920973
dont ruin this for me
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>>573920978
It's pretty clear that it's building up to a conflict between Kris' fixation on their promise and Ralsei's desire to save the world. Ralsei has faith in Kris but also will have to realize that at some point he'll have to do what's right. Also Ralsei's treatment of Kris went from parasocial to an actual friendship, so there is some evolution there.
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>>573919913
It's in one fight. If they were copy pasting lines it could easily be a typo
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>>573920746
we have to get the vessel back in chapter 6 when Kris betrays everyone right?
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>>573921118
straight coping
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>>573919153
Susie got so absorbed in chasing her eye squigglies in class once that she ended up doing it for like 15 minutes straight once and it made Toriel and Alphys meet in private to discuss setting aside a special needs portion of class for her because they didn't realize or ask what she was so focused on

Susie was having genuine fun hanging out with some other kids in class one day when she started talking too loud without meaning to and Toriel asked her to quiet down with her inside voice since she was "being annoying" for some studying kids apparently and it made her so self conscious that she barely talked to anyone else for like 2 months

Susie stole one of Kris' gameboy advance cartridges once since the game looked really cool to her and Kris didn't even like it despite not actually owning a gameboy advance herself so it just sits on a shelf and she touches it sometimes
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>>573921198
Undertale/deltarune?
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Wtf kriselle real
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>>573920625
It's Mettaton being used to foreshadow important concepts and themes for Deltarune rather than Deltarune being about Mettaton. Don't get me wrong though, I like Mettaton, I just think people get the order of things reversed sometimes because we saw Undertale first, but Toby saw Deltarune first. Some things in Deltarune are Undertale callbacks, but some things in Undertale are Deltarune callforwards because they're parallel stories. As a general rule of thumb, I assume anything critical to Undertale's plot (like determination) was created for Undertale and anything critical to Deltarune's plot (like vessels and whatever NEO is) was created for Deltarune.
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>>573921220
I hope the conflict happens with Ralsei being forced to make a tough decision, but until then I'll just have to assume it won't and the ship sucks as it is with no payoff.
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>>573921234
If it’s the Flowery fight it might be a workaround for the last part when Ralsei is ejected from the fight but the game still needs to give you the failure cutscene when Kris and Susie go down.
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>>573919759
He never said you could trick it. He straight up said the opposite, that it's pointless to try. His solution to the prophecy was to stop writing his books, to leave the ending open and let others decide where it goes, expecting many to follow the prophecy with their own interpretation while some of them would have the balls to ignore the prophecy entirely. Neither one happened because they never felt like they had the right to start writing, and that's what he tries to fix with Susie and pass on to his son. Everyone has the right to tell their own story even if it's a retelling of something else
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>>573915358
>>573915756
if there was a jevil motif it would probably be from his intro before the fight starts
I guess we'll never know because jevil is seemingly disconnected from every other character in the game
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>>573920858
nothing in his post is defensive and it is likely a typo
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>>573921118
>character development is clearly just memes
Sure anon
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>>573921471
Im refering to "Chuffed by that dart"
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Susie exploded
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>>573921151
Kris didn't give a shit about him, tossed him out/gave him away, Kris wishes to never see him again
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>>573920858
It's a single letter
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what the fuck is kressel theory supposed to be
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>>573921523
purple paste...
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>>573920787
My problem is that Kris never seems to actually like Ralsei to that degree. Sure Kris will refuse to be mean to Ralsei and accepts the romancey options, but it doesn't really matter to Kris if you also don't. Kris' relationship with Ralsei feels much weaker than Kris' bond with Susie or Noelle.
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Can someone post a Pink Kris image? I need it as a reference
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>>573921554
That's how Tenna should be treated, he wants to be an object, a slave, he shouldn't be loved or respected like a human.
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>>573921554
still his property just like noelle, ralsei, susie, and all the rest are
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>>573921407
I do realize that nowadays a lot of episodic media tends to go downhill, but this is still a very defeatist attitude to have about a game you like.
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>>573921327
get out of my HEAD
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>>573921585
eram being the vessel that found the headband and became their own darkner like pink's body makes way more sense
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>>573921001
>Just learned the Tenna dating sim isn't actually a Tenna dating sim
what is it then? i haven't played
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>>573921641
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>>573921757
Ok Sans, very funny
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Went to the gym to get stronger because it's what Noelle would have wanted
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>>573921641
here
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>>573919007
>>573921327
Masterful writing, you get Susie's character perfectly, I wish this general got more Susieposting I love her.
>>573921385
>It's Mettaton being used to foreshadow important concepts and themes for Deltarune rather than Deltarune being about Mettaton.
NTA but I think both things can be true, Deltarune Isn't *about* Mettaton but he will definitely be important to some degree even if he is simply the Spamtenna fixer that also works for evil on the side to achieve his broken dream.
I think if Mettaton is not the Knight then he will be evil and have a redemption arc shortly after since his motivations are not much different than Maddie's.
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>>573921629
Kris is a bitchless emo fag with no ability to express themselves. Of course they're comfortable with you not saying what they feel. They always give you the option of copping out because it's what Kris would do. Instead of telling Noelle her clothes were cute or whatever, Kris pranked her
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>>573921641
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>>573921629
Depends on how you view the choice options in the dialogues. As far as I'm concerned, all dialogue options are 100% Kris and we are just their will directed one way or another. The fact that the mean options are not only opposed by Kris but disappear from the choice boxes later on kind of lead me to think they are intrusive impulses from Kris' self-destructive personality that get pushed out after a while.
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>>573921734
It's like a 5 minute date with Tenna before you're FORCED to interact with spamshart and comfort him (multiple times at that) and then spamton and Tenna get together right before your eyes and there is nothing you can do
Majority of the game is actually about spamtard
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we kinda looooooooooove him
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>>573921953
SpamGOD BROKE you.
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>>573921629
eh personal preference weighs pretty heavily into how you view a ship. to me it seems like boy dislike the dynamic and need a way to justify that.
in truth, however, we aren’t sure how kris feels towards anyone (romantically speaking) but susie. im pretty sure kris and ralsei speak to one another when the player isn’t watching so we don’t know what goes on when our eyes aren’t over them
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>>573921934
>spamton and Tenna get together right before your eyes
awwwww
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>>573921118
Even in chapter 2, Kris liked hugging the Ralsei dummy when they thought no one was looking. They're just tsundere.
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>>573921934
Kris is able to push out being mean to Ralsei but not anything related to Weird Route barring the one choice with susie in ch4?
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What do you think are Toby's strengths and weakness when it comes to writing?
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And both Mettaton and Gaster are connected to the CORE… hmmmmm…
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>>573922109
pros: funny epic bacon taco meme jokes
cons: not good at writing lesbos
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>>573921953
Sounds based, Tenna is literally nothing outside his connection to Spamton (an actually compelling and well-written character), which is why no one cares about him except for the Spamtenna fujoshit
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>>573921585
They think Kris is the vessel from the intro even though that doesn't make any sense. I think Kris could maybe be a vessel, but not that specific one.
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>>573916772
Sealsie getting clubbed by her inuit father every day...
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>>573922034
meant for >>573921953
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>>573922146
This is all leading up to Mettaton's final transformation, Mettaton GREEN
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>>573922048
Regarding Weird Route, I think it's something related to Noelle specifically. She seems to be Kris' trigger for the worst possible shit, whether they like it or not. They went through something awful together and either Noelle did something bad or Kris just associates her with something bad.
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>>573919007
>>573921327
Asgorefag?
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>>573922109
I like his mix of comedy and genuine feels
I hate his worldbuilding
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>>573921335
One of dem AUs ya know?
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>>573921867
Kris' dialogue options toward Noelle or Susie are way more expressive than Ralsei's. Going as far as getting violent when praying to Noelle or clearly hiding jealousy feelings when talking with Susie. I'm unsatisfied how options surrounding Ralsei are rather indifferent to Kris, making me think Kris just doesn't care for him that much.
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>>573916946
Wait a minute, when you guys were referring to Robert, that was this guy's name? And he's the actual producer on the game?
I thought it was all a joke...
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>>573921953
Don’t cry now babe, this is canon
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>>573922109
I love some of his characters
I hate many of his characters
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>>573922017
lol
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>>573921641
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>>573922384
you are an idiot

now kneel to our nintendo overlord
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>>573921669
If something is good now, it's good now. It might turn out bad later or the thing that's lame today will be great next chapter. I won't engage with media liking things that did not happen yet.
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>>573919913
It's how they're gonna fit Noelle into the party.
Kris is gonna wear Ralsei as a scarf and it will be very nice and cute. :)
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bulgary
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>>573921953
>Majority of the game is actually about spamton
Wow, just like Deltarune, then.
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>>573922370
When Ralsei is crying in chapter four Kris literally lowers himself to hug him until he stops. He's also very adamant to Susie that they aren't too similar in appearance when she brings it up. What do you mean by violent when praying to Noelle, btw
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>>573922319
What makes you say that?
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>>573922273
Then why does Kris still have "Bully Susie" options present? Sure she pretty much never takes it in the wrong way because she's an idiot but they're there. He'll push out bullying Ralsei but not "Sucks to be you", the most direct way to mock someone?
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>>573922384
Toby looks way to big here isnt he supposed to be like skeletal?
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>>573920784
this is true

if kris's dark world outfit made them look like sans or papyrus, we would never hear the end of it.
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>>573922517
Why does he look like Scott the Woz but fat
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>>573920612
She's more likely to be the mantle holder

Either way, she killed BILLIONS
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>>573921953
>getting cucked by spamton sim
kek
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>>573922561
And yet Kris does nothing to stop you from choosing the mega evil "Good. Keep smiling" option. Maybe Kris does like Ralsei, but what's with the lack of consistency with these choices?
>What do you mean by violent when praying to Noelle, btw
When Kris kicks the prayer candles if you choose to pray for Noelle in the weird route.
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>>573922561
>they aren't too similar in appearance
They being Ralsei and Asriel I meant to say
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>>573922561
nta but kris kicks the candle stand if you choose to pray for noelle on the weird route
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>>573922370
Kris and Ralsei's dynamic in general seems to be more subdued. They are both bearers of awful knowledge, both have secrets and both feel incredibly doomed. In a way, they are each other's quet place. The "let's make the player look away" conversations, the "It's OK not to smile moment", the general demeanor of it all is that of quiet understanding, especially considering that there is some connection beteween them that probably makes words even less necessary. It's much different from the other dynamics, but I like how mystical and at the same time cozy it feels.
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>>573922624
Mettaton is hot and trans.
Kris is hot and trans (if you count nonbinary as trans).
This is Toby's true vision.
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>>573922401
Spamtenna is self-insert trannyshit but so is Mettatenna
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>>573922624
I mean he's got Papyrus' scarf already if you make it red
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>>573922319
Even tried to mix up the writing style and everything too, darn
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>>573921757
Human... I remember you're sunburns...
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>>573922795
“Good, keep smiling” isn’t inherently negative tbf. He does outright yawn when you try to tell Ralsei not to think for himself
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>>573922846
that's true. i miss papyrus..
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>>573922912
How are you literally me
Are you my split personality
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>>573922814
>Claims to be nonbinary
>Look inside
>Binary codes
Fucking attention whore...
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>>573922912
You continue to be the best poster in this general, bravo.
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>>573922758
That is why I will not play the game
Kind of retarded that it markets itself as a Tenna dating sim in every possible way but then it's not that at all, I feel bad for anyone who played the game on release
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>>573922795
>mega evil
To be honest, a teenager of Kris' age could be a little lost with such a choice. Don't forget that kris is not a very expressive kid themself, they could easily see continuing to smile as a valid defense mechanism instead of a self-destructive one. It's one of those moments where (You) actually can help Kris express their support better.
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>>573922823
Mind if I attach an image on your bait hook for you to reel in instead?
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Undertale
>"In this world, it's KILL OR BE KILLED!"
>You can not kill everyone and not be killed
Deltarune
>"The tragedy's end cannot be avoided"
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>>573922804
That’s cool. I still haven’t played weird route kek
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>>573923019
Funny life with strange friends and an imaginative sprinkle of experience with people I've met thrown in
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>>573922717
ive had this image as my phone background for months now its so good
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>>573923039
That's because Toby is in the process of creating a personalized homunculus of Kris in real life for every single Deltarune player that will truly be nonbinary...
Every single player will receive Kris tied up in a cardboard box package in the mail once they finish Chapter 7.
>>573923117
I love this image awww Mettaton's so fucking tall naturally wow...
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>>573922953
>>573923091
Okay, it might be true that the fandom's perception of the quote may have twisted its meaning to me. Still not feeling the bond between them, I'd like to know a little more about it before the big reveal in the end that makes all their previous interactions make sense.
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>>573922183
yeah that seems entirely pointless, unless its like a trans allegory or something
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Well Raly, I never got to be an hero.
But that's okay, that just means you have to be one now.
I guess is it for me.
you're gonna carry that weight
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>>573922823
i would like mettatenna if mettaton's entitled nature had a toxic combination with tenna's desire to please but its always just boring validationslop
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>>573922912
you write like an ESL
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>>573920302
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The truth I think everyone here needs to accept is that, shock of all shocks, Toby isnt the greatest writer known to man and is entirely capable of biting off more than he can chew. Not every inconsistency is a sign of some greater story beat, sometimes Toby is just a fucking idiot who forgets/goes against his own rules in specific moments because he has an idea that necessitates doing so
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why is napstablooks family so fucked up
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>>573919007
>>573921327
Susie tried to tell a joke in front of the whole class but it was an overly long and kind of depressing one from a comedian that she'd seen on youtube and as she spoke she felt more and more awkward and embarrassed and nervous and she had to stop in the middle before she got to the punchline. She tries to forget. But you can never wash it all away.
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>>573923117
maddie is for pats
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>>573921858
I don't think Mettaton will be involved with anything too serious because there's a divide between the light world and dark world casts for thematic reasons and those who break this boundary get punished for it (Onionsan, Asgore, Undyne) or else made to forget (Noelle until ch6, Berdly, Toriel.) Maddie is an outlier... for now at least, but her being an outlier is a good sign for Mettaton especially because he already has a potential Darkner connection that the player is highly encouraged to make happen. So I imagine Mettaton will get to be relevant due to his relationships with Pink and Tenna, but it'll probably be on the silly side rather than any kind of deep involvement because he's still ultimately a Lightner. Just like how Maddie got left out when Mew Mew had to discuss something serious. Perhaps fusing with a Darkner can work as a cheat code to bypass the usual heroes-only restrictions on the dark worlds. Not that that's actually any hard boundaries... although there could be? But it mostly seems to tie back to the themes of the magic circle, in my eyes.
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>>573923337
That's understandable, Kralsei's been kind of a slow burn thing for a long time. I hope their dynamic gets explored further in the remaining chapters. Toby likely didn't wanna get too into it because these two have all the secrets to spoil, but now that shit is going down, he doesn't have to bother hiding stuff.
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>>573923416
Still here waiting for the darkners turning to stone plot thread to be explained
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>>573919371
>>573919301
My intress in Ralsusuie died when she learned to heal.
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hello /UTG/
this is another day where i wake up without seth's lips around my cock
this is a horrible day
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>>573923426
the blooks are cousins to the gasters because they're both halloween monsters
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Flirt failed
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hello /UTG/
this is another day where i wake up without seth's cock around my lips
this is a horrible day
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>"For the prince to reclaim his soul ... he must be raped by a human"
What did Toby mean by this?
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>>573923426
Snail poisoning.
>>573923664
Robotruth...
>>573923445
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww...
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>>573923568
Be ready for the very real possiblity that it wont get one, and he's just doing what every rpg does and establishing a disaster you're meant to avoid. There's nothing to "Explain" about it, its the fate youre meant to avoid and it serves no greater purpose. That's like asking for further explanation on the elements dying in FFV, the game is never going to answer something like "How is everyone breathing is Wind as an element is dead?", that's not the point
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Let's all love Kris
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>>573923735
>Spamton will sing ads
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>chapter 5 will be the last fun adventure together
>it's absolutely miserable for anyone not named susie
What did he mean by this?
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>>573923718
How often does this happen?
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>>573923548
is toby a good enough writer to have side plot japes in a serious business chapter?

>>573923568
that plot thread is just there so ralsei can be the stone statue in waterfall in the place where it rained that responds when you play piano or whatever it does
>'b-but that statue was in hotland for asriel and mettaton moved it'
>no he didn't. undyne says no one knows where the statue came from
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>>573923735
god i miss spamsei...
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Are we talking about anything even remotely interesting at all?
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Kris will let you shut down Ralsei's attempts to seek emotional intimacy with Kris, but Kris won't let you tell Ralsei that he's not a person.
Let's be real. Kris is using Ralsei, has made Ralsei unwillingly complicit in a plan that probably involves engineering Susie's death.
It's reasonable to think Kris feels a shred of guilt about that. Kris is almost certainly aware of Ralsei's love for Kris and probably doesn't reciprocate it, at least not romantically. Kris is already kinda suicide-coded in the game so it's not unreasonable for Kris to think "it's okay for me not to emotionally push Ralsei away, to stop him from hurting even more when I die."
But, I think Kris believes deeply in Ralsei's person-ness. I think Kris really would like to see an ending where Kris and Ralsei can both be alive in the light world... and if that's impossible, maybe at least accompany each other in death.
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ERAM is future Nightmare Goddess Noelle living in the device layer of the code post weird route and affecting all timelines.

Thats why she still has work to do with Kris, why she has a cat petterz army and why she's trying to stop the eggs, which contain a memory Kris had with Noelle as children that planted the seed leading to the Weird Route ever existing in the first place.
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>>573923926
Susie is the real hero and protagonist obviously
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>>573923830
Ad jingles are pretty catchy.
I was going to post the legendary "Fuck you Baltimore" car cad but every single version of it is age locked on youtube because we live in the nightmare version of this timeline.
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>>573923813
>throws you in a cage to go and eat pie
weird route is payback for not sharing the pie
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Is Toby really a good writer?
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>>573923957
obviously youre gonna get break moments, because if it was pure serious edge then you wouldnt be able to return to castle town at all
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ANON MAN ANON MAN
SHITPOSTING ON 4CHAN
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>>573923926
It's smiling through tears, realizing everything is about to come crashing down, and Susie is only carrying on through denial
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>>573923416
You should list the inconsistencies you've noticed in the narrative so we can discuss them
>>573923568
Did you miss the part where it comes back in chapters 3 and 4? It's a background piece for the setting what exactly big plot point are supposed to get around darkner petrification?
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>>573924060
It's too early to say.
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>>573923993
No, just about your mother
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>>573924060
No he's just copying hussie at this point
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>>573924006
Why would she use fire attacks though?
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>>573923813
Kris is gonna believe themself beyond redemption. All of the recruited Darkners, Susie, Ralsei, Noelle, Berdly, and everyone you've made Kris interact with positively in town will shine through and save them.

Epilogue will have Kris wake up in hospital bed, surrounded by loved ones and with Susie diving onto them with a big hug, and tears will roll down their eyes.
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>>573923813
>coughs
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Oh! I get!
Undertale = Problem Sleuth
Deltarune = Homestuck
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the cyan twins
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>>573923957
>that plot thread is just there so ralsei can be [insane headcanon]
You people frighten me because you actually believe this shit
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>>573924115
No? It was a bright and positive chapter where Susie learns to love being excited about having a girlfriend
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>>573923957
I don't think you need to be a particularly good writer to have some optional comic relief. Toby wrote silly Papyrus phone calls for every room, even the serious ones where Undyne is trying to kill you. We've still gotta see the outcome for the Pizzapants subplot too and that will no doubt be really silly.
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>>573914848
FRIEND? Meet your end.
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>>573922384
Jesus look at those fucked up hands
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I absolutely fucking loathe chapter 3 for raping this games quality to death.
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I think toby is a bit of a stupid fucktard

do you agree?
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>>573923735
is that an actual sprite from the game
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>>573924296
She ate a real cat?
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why are the only good characters in this game a homophobic ventriloquist dummy and his bpd boyfriend tv
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>>573924195
I think the only person who can SAVE Kris is Susie, because Susie is the person Kris has (probably) most deeply and wretchedly betrayed. After the "Liar Revealed" arc when Kris goes to their death, that is Susie's chance to say "I still care about you, you crazy idiot"
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if you hate chapters 3 4 and 5 then you just dont like this video game.
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>>573924428
I GOTTA HAVE A GOOD MEAL, KRIS
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>>573922618
It's obvious from the photos that he has gained weight quite a lot which is probably one of the reasons he no longer shows face (besides the Japanese larp). That tends to happen to white guys when they move to Japan.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j7x1sVsVzk
Lets all play Deltarune together.
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>>573924403
Yeah
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>>573924463
i love how there's people who only liked chapter 1, i can't believe this game is still unfinished and it already has nostalfags
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>>573924403
Yes it's chapter 5's only Spamton cameo.
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hey~
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i noticed that stories for children are deeper than most medias...
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>>573924559
Anon it’s been 7 and a half years
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>tfw you make a great post but nobody replies
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pengas
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>>573924569
flowery is the friskriel lovechild
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>>573924002
This is a good take. Romance or not, Kris cares about Ralsei in an "I was not supposed to get attached, goddammit" kind of way, same as with Susie. I honestly can't wait for the betrayal to unravel to see what comes of it, it's definitely gonna be the most emotional thing ever.
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I really like this sprite I hope one day we get to see a full view from all sides of how the CORE looks.
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Frisk has been on more dates than Kris so far so Frisk objectively has more rizz than Kris
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never for a second have I thought of kris as anything but a boy
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>weight gain Toby
Hopium for fat Tenna lovers
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>>573924623
The thread is just like that, anon-kun...
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>>573924623
>mfw I don't make good posts and people reply anyways
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>>573924598
Troll take or not, there's a saying by some author that goes "Writing for children should be the same as for adults, but better". I really like that saying.
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the children are retarded and hopeless
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>>573924728
why should I care
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Sans you need to never speak like this again...
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The flowers kinda felt overburdened by being vaguely Undertale fanservice but also vaguely symbolism for Kris or for Asgore's life
Felt like the chapter was trying to juggle a lot and ended up with the details being messy and hazy.
Flowery is like... Asriel but Rudy? But obviously his own guy too. All the flowers have an UT callback, some relation to Kris, and just their own actual identity, and it's honestly not easy to sort out what's what and ask what's meaningful in terms of the game's Lightners. So it ends up kinda being a wash as a storytelling or characterization tool.
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trans ralsei theory is gonna make me transphobic they will not even let us keep our faggots they just want to take everything
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>>573924749
The mask has been containing his real weight
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>mfw i make great posts all the time but i don't need replies to confirm it because i already know it to be true
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>>573924598
whens the last time you read a novel for grownups?
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>>573922384
That can't be Toby right? Just someone put a Toby Dog over a photo and that's it?
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>>573924121
>You should list the inconsistencies you've noticed in the narrative so we can discuss them
Off the top of my head
>The previously talked about "Dialogue options" that Kris can push out entirely, somehow only applying to Ralsei and none of his other friends
>2 seperate instances of the game assuming actions you made throughout the game in Chapter 5 (Equipping Ralsei with White Ribbon, and flirting with enemies. I think there was a third but Im blanking on it now)
>Undyne takes hours to get to Toriel's house when Undertale established she could run most of the underground itself in 2 minutes and Deltarune established she can still bench press cars casually
>Susie declaring they will do "Something" tomorrow that never happens
>Susie also declaring she wont let the prophecy happen and then next chapter just lets LOVE reach the Girl completely without a second thought
>Berdly's Feather is just Berdly's Feather in the dark world, it undergoes no changes at all when the only things that have been like that thus far as the Eggs and the Shadow Crystals
>Susie never follows up her question about Kris' soul from ch4
>If the dialogue options we have are things Kris would say than the whole couch scene with Noelle needs to be explained because "Me" is very clearly our choice and not his
Im sure I could go on if I sat here for a couple hours or even replayed the game start to finish but you get the point, which is Toby makes mistakes and not everything will actually have an explanation
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>>573924002
If Kris dies, it would kill half the reasons Ralsei has to keep living. (It's tough to imagine scenarios in this game Ralsei will remain alive and well beyond the end in general)
If there is commitment to a deep unspoken soulmate-type bond between them I would like to see it kill two birds with one stone and explain Ralsei's origins and Kris' character troubles too. If Ralsei really is a what-if sibling for Asriel that never came to be and Kris feels more worthy of existing than they are, but Kris learns to love themselves and Ralsei gets to become a person beyond what the ideal self was. So in a way, Kralsei is therapy.
And the bad ending of course, could happen in our Side B where Kris has seemingly "stopped being Kris" and betrayed the very principles they shouldn't have let go of and it's Ralsei's turn to try to stop it.
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>>573924908
do VNs count?
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>>573924857
>theory
It's a headcanon
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>>573924892
Can confirm.
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Flower Man foreshadowing: Ten Feet Twenty The Flower Man (ten + twenty is thirty)
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>>573924965
Ralsei talks about the bird in Jevils act even if you don’t fight him
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Deltarune Side C Route where you the soul have to whip out your massive cock and start fucking all the women in hometown.

The C stands for COCK AND CUMMING.
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Ralsei being Toriel's what-if child from the ch5 glass dialog would somehow be like, more problematic for Ralsei's romantic love for Kris than if Ralsei is Asriel. Because now Kris would be like a groomer lol
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>>573924689
my hopium is all the fountain castle background sprites look similar
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>>573925025
many people are saying this!!
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>making the most dogshit bait post possible to end up getting zero (you)s only for someone to make a even worse one but still get the entire thread derrailed
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Funny how when I pick a bad choice it's my fault but when I pick a good one it's all thanks to Kris...
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>>573922370
>>573922808
Ralsei is Kris if born Kris Dreemurr and Kris knows. Their relationship is built around that fact. We don't get to read it that way yet, but when the reveal hits it will reframe all their conversations
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Some of you are like this.
>>573925148
Woah you're right!!
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training maddie into liking getting the shit beat out of her like her ut counterpart
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Remember when we had a 6 year death march during which the only new content we got was one chapter and an ARG
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was silver sam our cage?
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>>573925245
I'm never having sex so I'll just sad fuck my dakimakura until I kill myself
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It's funny people really think Toby has a problem with writing incest coded relationships
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>>573925085
Right that was the third one, thank you
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>>573924979
Is this a safe space to admit I would have sexual intercourse with Sans
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>>573924749
>>573924875
>>573922618
>>573924491
>>573924937
how can you be so dumb
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>>573914907
big beautiful bishonens
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>>573925346
it depends

which sans
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>>573925346
Toriel…
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>>573925180
Sometimes even just plain retarded, non-bait posts end up hogging all the (You)s
Depends on what ends up stimulating the chemistry in anons' brains that particular day
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Schizotime:
Ralsei is a time capsule buried under Hometown
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Berdly would do this too lol.
>>573925304
I'm never having sex either and that's ok!
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>>573924689
I have to imagine that it looks pretty similar from all sides. Also looking up the core page on the wiki how did I never once make the final starman/final froggit connection?
>>573924715
Kris lacking Frisk's raw natural charisma is a big pointer against Kris being Frisk
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>>573925245
This is literally how Susie will act once Deltarune is over
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>>573925441
i impregnated your moms time capsule HEYO
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>>573925404
Sans the skeleton
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Chapter 2 was the last good chapter
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>>573925441
I think if that were the case he'd know the deal with the Horrible Incident Dark World
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>>573924598
I knew that the monkeys on the bed were onto something.
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>>573925501
but then there's nothing left
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fLOWERY SCAT PORN
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>>573925372
This is Toby though and he's chubby here, or hiding his estrogen titties
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sometimes when my husband is putting his bepis into my vegana I close my eyes and pretend Im intercoursing with deltarune characters. this only last a brief moment before reality sets in again
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>>573925136
Not really? If it's meant to show Ralsei, then it's showing a what-if reality where Kris never replaced Ralsei, so they are supposed to be the same person with the same age in a higher sense. Is it wrong to fall in love with yourself?
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>>573925457
>Kris lacking Frisk's raw natural charisma is a big pointer against Kris being Frisk
Kris has Frisk's flirting ability (remember, we just tell Kris to flirt, we don't tell him what to say, works the same as the Warmify/Coldify acts against Swatchlings), Kris just doesn't have the confidence to actually say it.
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this is how Toby looks now
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>>573924973
>So in a way, Kralsei is therapy.
Pretty good definition.
I think, regardless of whether there's gonna be any romance in Kralsei, the culmination of their relationship could be a scene where Kris can say something like "I want you to stop caring about me, you'll only make it worse for yourself" and Ralsei replying with "This is not about what you want" and going for the save anyway. You know, this but written better than I did it.
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What the FUCK is her problem...
>>573925457
It probablyyy does, I wish the segment in Undertale where you got to walk through the CORE was cooler and not just a bunch of hallways
>how did I never once make the final starman/final froggit connection?
Don't forget Final Starwalker!!
>>573925469
And she'll be right!!
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>>573924965
let me see what i can answer here (the rest i got no fucking clue)
>Susie also declaring she wont let the prophecy happen and then next chapter just lets LOVE reach the Girl completely without a second thought
that i find understandable to shrug off as susie just being stupid (genuinely, or otherwise not being sure of what her feelings with noelle truly are... or maybe just accepting the prophecy as is, deciding to keep following it only to change it last minute)
>Berdly's Feather is just Berdly's Feather in the dark world, it undergoes no changes at all when the only things that have been like that thus far as the Eggs and the Shadow Crystals
something about will, same reason not every single piece of lint becomes a rabbick or why some items stay objects and others become darkners in the darkworld (winglade being a weapon in the 1st sanctuary and then an enemy in 2nd and onward), maybe kris kept seeing it as a feather and so it stayed (or maybe in the lightworld berdly's feather is way smaller, like one that fell off him)
>Susie never follows up her question about Kris' soul from ch4
Again, susie inhaled too much carbon monoxide when she was little, i do believe she knows kris has a soul, and maybe didn't want to bring it up as she was busy with other thoughts
>If the dialogue options we have are things Kris would say than the whole couch scene with Noelle needs to be explained because "Me" is very clearly our choice and not his
maybe kris is referring to us as me? as to not say ''them'' or whatever our name or title may be (imagine if kris accidentally mentioned us as THE ANGEL), bit of a stretch tough
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>>573925639
vegana isn't real though
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>>573925457
Kris can't be Frisk because Frisk has two stripes and Kris has one. Kris must be Chara. Of course this also means that Frisk is a vessel. We can only assume that Gaster's device was on the fritz that day and the naming screen bugged out and gave the name to the wrong human. This is all logical.
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>>573924979
imagine having your dodge be hardcapped at once per turn
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>>573925632
cute nole is thus from a /utg/ drawfag?
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>>573925638
>This is Toby though and he's chubby here, or hiding his estrogen titties
you're a moron
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>>573925569
No, no, SANS the SKELETON, not SANS the skeleton!
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>>573925721
This is the only good mewmew image I've aeen. Thank you anon
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>>573916030
Queen was at least actually funny imo
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>>573925794
why does this faggot not cut his fucking fingernails
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ACCEPT ACCEPT ACCEPT ACCEPT NO NO NO NOOOOO TOBYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!
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Castle Town defense setpiece needs to happen
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>>573925378
BREASTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>573925878
What do you think? Why do you think he doesn't show face in public and writes all that trannyshit in the games?
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>>573925787
Can you not see the filename?
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the red soul is kris's soul but from the future
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>>573925878
It's a rich thing to show that he doesn't need to work with his hands.
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>>573925880
I wanna hug the ghost
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>>573925813
>WHAT.. WHAT ARE THESE STRINGS?
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>>573925878
chronic wrist pain
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>>573925880
>Blook is left running the farm in undertale
>Blook is the SOUL provider in deltarune
what the FUCK
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>>573925971
Because he's autistic and weird?
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What if Ralsei light world was something cool like a giant robot or the skeleton of a dinosaur?
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>>573924965
>>Berdly's Feather is just Berdly's Feather in the dark world, it undergoes no changes at all when the only things that have been like that thus far as the Eggs and the Shadow Crystals
This is wrong in multiple ways. Kris's phone is still a phone, Kris's knife is still a knife, not everything changes from light world to dark world. Eggs and BLACK SHARDS (not Shadow Crystals, which do change form between worlds) are significant because they come from the dark world and maintain their form in the light world, but vice versa isn't as significant.
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>>573925914
Absolutely. Even better if the threat is coming from the inside.
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>>573925878
Because he's not in a relationship
Or at least not in one with a woman, if he were, those fuckers would've been gone long ago
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>>573925813
what my soul sees after i shove them up the dark fountain inside my ass
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kissing toby's wrists until they stop hurting
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If Fun Gang breaks up because Susie finds out Kris is a Fucking Traitor who gets Ralsei and Castle Town in the divorce, Kris or Susie
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>>573924060
Compared to every single other video game writer - yes and you'd have to be fucking delusional to disagree
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>>573915881
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>>573926168
oh temmie just doesn’t care
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>>573926063
Satanic goat skull that Catti used in her rituals
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Aqua tiny!
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It's actually absurd how much Alphys is like me.
>>573926009
Me too!!! all 4 of them!!!!
>>573926029
WOW...
Also I just realized the 22 in their username probably implies they were born in 1922, cute... I wonder if that's the case with Mettaton and Maddie as well.
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>>573925724
>that i find understandable to shrug off as susie just being stupid
While that would be a valid reason, from a quality standpoint thats just terrible writing to have to sit through. It's like Persona 4 where its supposed to be a mystery game but every party member has Dumbass as a character trait so they never make real progress on the mystery until the last few bits of the game when they finally recruit someone who has an IQ in the double digits. I, simply speaking, do not like having to deal with a dumbass being the only one who can potentially push the plot forward
>maybe kris kept seeing it as a feather and so it stayed
This would be another inconsistency because Susie reveals in Gerson's fight that she absolutely still sees her axe as "A brush or something". Even before knowing dark world rules and perception, imagination, all that shit her brush became an axe that she can use on instinct.
Actually FUCK add that one to the list. Susie immediately understood fights, combat, and most thing Dark World whereas Noelle needed a tutorial. You can argue her bully background means a scrap isnt strange to her, but she can cast Rude Buster without ever thinking twice about it and I doubt she's able to pull that out in the Light World
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dating maddie until her absolutely fucking terrible taste in anime causes us to break up
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What is Kris going to do with the most certainly poisonous Chekov's gun seeds?
1. Kill themselves
2. Kill Susie
3. Kill Rudy?
4. Kill Treesei's light world form?
5. Kill Sans because fuck that guy
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>>573926237
Zamn! Imagine the infections and bleeding...
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>>573926219
Kris gets Ralsei and (You) get Susie and Castle Town
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>>573926219
Susie gets the Castle because she has custody of Noelle, Kris gets Ralsei as the owner of 70% Ralsei stock.
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>>573924542
oh kek im too good at deltarune. never had to use this spell haha. nice little treat for those unable to dodge though!!
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>>573926168
wasnt it leaked that he's married because hussie's girlfriend was mad she didnt get an invite
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>>573926396
why are the posters here genuinely schizophrenic
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I dislike most of the relationship drama in deltarune. just me?
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Convenient goat
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>>573926325
Kill (you)
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>>573926325
Kris gives them to Sans before he hops in the Gaster Machine for Undertale and says "you gotta plant these everywhere. It will make sense later."
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>>573926459
are you new?
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>>573926297
and then she stabs you then herself (it doesn’t affect her)
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>>573926396
I don't know, I can't confirm
I am not the person to ask about this
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>>573926325
suicide attempt to have an excuse to be in the ICU area of the hospital so he can dark world when Rudy dies
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>>573926396
>Hussie's girlfriend
That's Toby though
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>>573925378
Botany is so beautiful
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>>573926131
I forgot about the phone but that does have A change, in that its just garbage noise now. And I only kind of mixed up the shards/crystals, because yes the Black Shard is unchanged but while the Shadow Crystal just becomes "Glass" afaik its still functioning the same way since you can see another world through them, potentially its "failed dream". Its probably just called Glass because "Shadow Crystal" wouldnt fit in the Light World menu. I dont know about the knife though, we never concretely see it in the dark world right? There are theories that Ralsei is the Knife, but we've never seen Kris just pull out a regular knife while in the dark world so we dont know what happens to it
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>>573926325
Defeat the angel with a team of flowery saibamen
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>>573925878
Afaik people who play string instruments usually let their nails grow longer, if he does that?
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>>573926512
I hate all of it and think it ruins the game
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>>573926512
the new generation is fucked.
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>>573926325
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>>573926325
Plan A - Make an environmental hazard
Plan B - Tactical suicide (possibly with Susie and Ralsei doing the Heimlich on them and smacking them senseless until Kris finally cracks)
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>>573926580
toby is just his side boy
a buttfuck buddy as a way to pay for the basement expences
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>>573926168
>the wrist thing was just a coverup to what was really slowing down toby these last years
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>>573926640
toby can only play piano for a little bit before his wrists explode
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>>573926524
easy use
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>>573926512
You are not a real fan and are not welcome here
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>>573926580
Andrew Hussie is heterosexual
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>>573926512
i dont care for it either
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>>573926587
If Ralsei was the knife he'd show up with Kris and Susie, and wouldn't have to travel to them. He's not an object they carry
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I took embarrassingly long to beat this puzzle...
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I don't have wrist problems so it doesn't make sense that Toby would either. I personally think he's lying
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>>573926785
Kris using hanging Ralsei as a swing, you dirty fuck
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>>573926735
Then why does he write Hussie (Tenna) and himself (Spamton) like they were married?
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>>573925878
status symbol to prove he demonstrate to his lessers that he never does any physical work of any kind
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The best characters are the adult characters
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>>573926325
Kris's promise to the Knight seems plenty suicidal to begin with so I dunno if the epic death seeds are for that purpose at least
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>>573926898
very true and very grim!
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>>573926785
A boy's treat for a guy like him
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>>573926587
>A change, in that its just garbage noise now.
That's not a change in the phone, it just can't get reception
>I dont know about the knife though, we never concretely see it in the dark world right?
Aqua says they have a knife on them that they're not using when you first fight her
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I think Toby actually got molested and that's why deltarune is taking 12 years to complete because every time he has to work on it he has to relive his andrew hussie rape memories and gets sent into a horrible panic attack
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>>573926816
that's why toby puts on the dress
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>>573926816
a heterosexual woman
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>>573926850
we’ve seen that multiple times with lancer and rouxls they don’t appear next to kris
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i wish there was an ut/dr roguelike game with "secret boss" fights & shit
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>>573926682
>Plan A - Make an environmental hazard
do we expect kris to just swallow buttercups when we do something they don't like
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>>573927038
They do if they want to, like they do in Castle Town
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I never realized the name of this area lmaooooo.
Also possible foreshadowing of people complaining Mettaton being evil in Deltarune ruins his arc in Undertale...
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>>573926945
Eating the seeds will probably be the last-ditch option, it's also a good setup for Susie and Ralsei trying to resuscitate them and being like "don't you dare die on me, I still have to kill you for your sneaky shit"
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>>573926989
>That's not a change in the phone, it just can't get reception
It literally plays gaster sounds, its more than "no reception" for sure
>Aqua says they have a knife on them that they're not using when you first fight her
god I fucking hate pronouns, "They" as in Kris or "They" as in Aqua?
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Ralsei is with Susie chatting in Castle Town while Kris is at home slitting their wrists all night, Ralsei isn't something Kris carries
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>>573926512
No, I dislike it too
I dislike most romance in non-romance media, because it's always written so shit
I once dropped an anime I really liked on half of its first season because it suddenly started revolving around the protagonist's love interest and future reverse harem when it was about cool powers just 2 episodes earlier
DR offers more than just the romance though so there is still a lot to enjoy
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Mettaton will not be relevant to the actual plot and thinking otherwise is delusional favefaggotry
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How do I convince Aqua to piss in my mouth?
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>>573926898
The logic is SOLID
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>>573927286
tell her it's a special human game
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Ralsei being the knife is retarded. Why the hell would a knife become a magical goat boy
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>>573927156
lets be honest, every iteration of mettaton is at least mildly evil
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>>573927087
the randomly generated equipment tied to generated darkners and lightner backstories would be so cook
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>>573927087
I would love that. Just pure combat
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>>573926664
Im actually so disappointed in myself this was my first thought seeing the seeds and I needed someone ELSE to point out they were poisonous to me
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>>573927380
yeah it'd really be something to tie us over until ch. 6 and 7
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>>573927197
>god I fucking hate pronouns, "They" as in Kris or "They" as in Aqua?
Aqua is a girl
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Kris' knife is an infinite damage weapon they are hiding in case they ever need to cheat to win a fight
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>>573927286
Tell her it's a game, she has to aim all of it inside your mouth to win (it's very hard to aim with a pussy so she'll be at it for a while)
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>>573927098
That's Plan B, Kris will probably hold onto a couple seeds after doing Plan A. I also have a suspicion that if they are gonna suicide by eating the seeds, it's gonna be a surprise for both the Knight and the gang, just taking the third option and not making the sadistic choice at all.
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As a kid these characters were what made me aware being gay is ok and I'm not joking at all, thank you Toby Fox I'll always love these two because of that.
>>573927371
True and that's good and awesome!
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why would a knife or a headband or a crayon be an impossibility

>>573926664
should be his sperm
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lack of human characters should not excuse the lack of disability representation in deltarune
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>>573927551
Catti's dad is disabled.
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>>573927424
It would also be a great way for the average player to get to experience the combat for real
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ralsei is the sweater
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I just spent 50 USD commissioning Pink Mew Mew x Kris porn
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>>573924965
>somehow only applying to Ralsei and none of his other friends
Kris stops us from being rude to Susie several times and will prevent us from telling her that they're an item with Noelle so idk what you're talking about
>White Ribbon
Ralsei never says he wore the ribbon then and you've had plenty of time to equip one on him since then, it would be a dumb thing to track. The point is that in the chapter about Ralsei we start out with Ralsei asserting himself even in a very small way
>Flirting
Something you'd have to go out of your way to not do and would only not do to see if there was dialogue there. Even if you don't do it it's still a thing Kris CAN do with a lot of enemies
>Jevil Bird
Ralsei has meta awareness and you're not guaranteed to see the bird on a cycle 1 Pirouette anyway, would be dumb to waste time tracking that
>Undyne takes hours to get to Toriel's house
I almost agree with that but if that's enough to break your suspension of disbelief then you need to lighten up. It was a late night call, too. It's half past midnight during the first board and since that all happens within a few minutes of waking up I assume we're not actually in the dark world more than hour
>Susie declaring they will do "Something" tomorrow>>573924945

You get a code at the end of the chapter. Was Susie supposed to break into Alvin's office or noelle's house in front of the whole town to get codes?
>Susie also declaring she wont let the prophecy happen
She just says they don't let the final prophecy happen. This is literally just anti-Suselle cope, shouldn't she just lock herself in her room and do nothing if she wants to avoid the prophecy since she's one of the heros?
>Berdly's Feather in the dark world
Insane reach, the phones also don't transform on the dark world either is that a plot hole? The feather was apart of berdly's body so it didn't change or Kris willed it to be like that when they made the fountain
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Incredible dialogue.
>>573927551
I know this post is bait but Flowery's dialogue at the end of the chapter about loving Asgore but being unable to help him back for all the help Asgore has given him is genuinely the best metaphor for disability I've seen in all art, I love it so much.
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one of the flowers should have had a colostomy bag
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>>573927551
Most of the cast is intellectually disabled
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>>573927696
flowers don't shit
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>>573927531
Kris's knife is on their person outside Castle Town while Ralsei is in Castle Town
The headband would be something Darkners like Tenna would recognize and talk about
A crayon isn't impossible but it better be a really important crayon for it to become Ralsei
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>>573927551
All the characters are mentally disabled, or does that not count because it has to represent the disabilities you mandate? Not very woke of you!
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>>573927635
thats kinda cheap
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>>573927452
So is Green, your point?
Im guessing it is pretty clearly refering to Kris, alright then. I dont think that stops it from being an inconsistency because thats not an "Everything suddenly makes sense" piece of information, its still nonsensical. Eggs are weird fuck ups of the universe, and Shadow Crystals are a material manifestation of something non-physical. Those make sense innately to not change. A feather and a knife though? Why? The knife MIGHT be a Black Knife thing, like its somehow made of shadow crystals, but that still wouldnt explain the feather
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>>573927715
the creator and dev team too
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>>573927632
>Kris is being permanently hugged
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Does Susie really not think "wait a second I'm the Girl and I'm in love with Noelle... And I put on that ribbon... Oh shit the prophecy is happening!"
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These two are so fucking cuteeeeeeeeeee!!
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>>573927875
fun adventure no thinking.
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>>573927156
Deltarune revolves around sequels because the current Fun Gang is a sequel to the original Fun Gang with Dess and John Mantle. Mew Mew Kissy Cutie season 2, Dragon Blazers II, Blood Crushers 2. This post has been fact checked by real cyclical prophecy patriots and verified TRUE.
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eating spam is bad for your cat
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>>573927551
that one hometown npc lacks an arm
green is a mute
those are the only ones i can think about.
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>>573927934
That's retarded
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>>573927956
susie has an iq of 60. I believe that qualifies her as mentally r*t*rd*d
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>>573927286
Pretend to be a plant and remind her that humans love to water their flowers
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I fucked up making the new bread AIIIEEEE
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These 2 are Susie and Noelle's Undertale counterparts.
>>573927936
John Mantle being in the original Fun Gang is a really funny idea amazing.
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>>573928064
What happened to it? What did you do?
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>>573928064
It's over. This is the end of /utg/. The general was covered in darkness.
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>>573915427
I agree with this to an extent. I hate people trying to predict the entire plot of the game ever since chapter 2, but I am now finding myself asking "how the fuck does this follow from the last chapter?"
In chapter 2 Noelle resolved to investigate what's going on with Kris in the Weird Route. Instead she got PROCEEDed and any hint of agency she had was torn to shreds. I know that corrupting Noelle is the point, but she didn't even stand a chance.

In the end of chapter 4 Susie said something about trying to get the guitar again, it's completely sidelined in the Light World segment in favor of the festival date and we got Flower King instead. Again this was expected, but ch4's setup was completely sidelined in chapter 5.

We keep receiving setups just to get rugpulled. Kinda lame. I still like Deltarune though.
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>>573927492
>>573927098
Kris needs the seeds to go to Chapter 7. They drown with Noelle to reach it in Side B, and they'll swallow the super kills you seeds to get there in Side A. Chapter 7 isn't supposed to be reachable under normal circumstances.
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>>573927875
Susie likes the prophecy and the perks of being a prophesized hero she just doesn't like the ending and thinks they can somehow avert it
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>>573928064
I'm making one right now, should I proceed?
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>>573927863
>>573927863
>>573927863
>>573927863
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>>573927863
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>>573927551
Cat dad: arm missing
Gerson: cane
Rudy: chronically ill and bedridden
Green: mute
Temmie: retarded
Carol: autistic
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>>573928117
i accidentally replied to a anons post instead of the op
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>>573927637 (me)
Follow up because I ran out of space
>>573924965
>If the dialogue options we have are things Kris would say than the whole couch scene with Noelle needs to be explained because "Me" is very clearly our choice and not his
Legitimately have no idea what this means. What is impossible about Kris saying "me" or having it as an intrusive thought for us to say there? The spooky atmosphere and hair flip will probably get a main route follow up with the demon summoning stuff, but genuinely you're looking too deep to see what's right in front of you. Noelle lays it out in chapter 5; the point of that dialogue isn't that "you" the player are revealing yourself, the point is you're showing Noelle the "new Kris." The Kris that "changed" and "broke off their path." Basically all of these were nitpicks anyway and not actual narrative issues that clash with the story. My point isn't that toby is perfect my point is that your analysis skills are clearly lacking
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When will thread be good again please I can’t stand this
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>>573928160
The festival date was supposed to continue and get Susie the code, but Noelle disappeared and Kris opened the fountain
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>>573927875
>Does Susie really not think
Susie drinks shampoo.
More seriously, Susie spent the entirety of chapter 4 talking about how awesome the prophecy is and how they should do whatever it says to do. She got excited about love finding its way to the girl. She only dislikes the final tragedy, but she thinks it's something they just "not let happen," not something they have to proactively try to stop from happening. She likes the rest of the prophecy, she's just in denial about the ending. She's no different than the people who doubt that Deltarune has only one ending.
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>>573925378
what the hell are you feeding him?
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>>573915081
>>573915212
FREAK FAMILY (their family)
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>>573924646
True!
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>>573927551
You know that you're a character in the game too, right?
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>>573928282
Give it a month or two. The wait will weed out the weak
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>>573928461
why is susie so retarded that she doesnt realize that the final tragedy could be destroyed by not letting the prophecy happen? this bitch really just decided to speedrun a relationship while cucking kris at every turn after seeing the final tragedy
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>>573928086
>These 2 are Susie and Noelle's Undertale counterparts.
reminder, there is an unused RG-03 and RG-04 who are a Yuri couple
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>>573929902
true WAITERS died out after 3+4 came out and established yearly releases



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