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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9479 - Pray 4 Tommy the Turtle Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>573925296
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>>573961509
I'm...no match...for youuu...
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Motherfucker is fucking dead
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How do we get rid of these pedophiles
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Douge
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>>573965462
Yeah!

I liked Undertale. I haven't followed deltarune much but it looks like a mess. I think Asriel is cute
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Cosmo was not in love with Tails, she fell into a magical rape lake and was brainwashed into falling in love with him. She probably would have lived if that never happened.
Mina didn't love Tails. She loved Sonic and was using Tails's body to feel Sonic. She molded him into a second Sonic through grooming. Tails is a rape victim of Mina/


Zooey is Tails's cousin
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Honestly, Sallicole only happened because Bunnie was already taken by Antoine. I'm confident if the latter didn't happen, Ian would've paired Sally with Bunnie.
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>>573965429
Ian Flynn killed off Tommy so early into his run, imagine all the kino Tommy the Turtle focused stories we could've gotten
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>>573965635
If it didn't grab you now then wait until all chapters are out the free chapters start strong but the paid ones are 50/50.
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I promise you Elias.... REVENGE
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>>573965813
Alrighty!
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>>573965708
>fell into a magical rape lake
She doesn't fall into the lake she just lands in front of it with Tails and her in eachother's arms.
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Sonic
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>>573965987
They literally fall IN the lake
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>>573965708
Cosmo loved Tails and they fucked
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>>573965453
md5 filter
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>>573965635
I've played and superficially enjoyed Undertale but didn't get super into it. I probably missed out on a big part of the appeal since I don't remember much of the story and I know nothing about the lore details and stuff. Deltarune I only know from what I've seen people say so... almost nothing.

>I think Asriel is cute
I've seen some cute fanart, but the in-game art isn't much
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They were sexually assaulted
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Intergalactic continental champ, running things
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>>573966110
Good, everyone should love Tails
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Tailsmo is just the obsession movie if it went both ways
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>>573966287
No they weren't
Also not what sexual assault means.
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>>573966218
Well I liked it a bunch :0

>>573966287
It was destiny

>>573966368
Yep
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>>573965708
>She probably would have lived
Not sure about that. If the Chaotix didn't trick Tails into falling in love with Cosmo a few episodes earlier, Tails probably wouldn't have been by Cosmo's side when Shadow attacked, meaning Tails would have failed in stopping Shadow from killing Cosmo.
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>>573966335
Hyperactive instrumental when you're pulling strings.
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>>573966410
Chemical liquid went into their mouths and forces them to fall in love with each other
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Smoooooooooooooch
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>>573966515
Literally just lake water.
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>>573966110
>Tails fucked his plant
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>>573966580
This is literally double rape

their real minds are screaming behind begging to escape while their lustful bodies fornicate
This is just like that Pacifica Northwest comic
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>>573966424
>Well I liked it a bunch :0
That's cool :)
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>>573966631
It was a magic lake
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Never Forget
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Silver
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>>573966679
They're a couple in love. Why are you obsessed with rape
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>>573966705
There is no real magic! It's fortune cookie nonsense!
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>>573966679
It's not rape, their relationship was set up in a previous episode, EP 62
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>>573966841
Magic is forcing Tails and Cosmo to have sex with each other
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>>573966841
They're a couple of victims
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Shadow
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heterosexual pussy slayer
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>>573965708
>Zooey is Tails's cousin
and how!
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>>573966841
Just some memey bullshit
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Cosmo doesn't even know what sexual intercourse is. She was never given the opportunity to learn it. She was never given time to make sweet love the natural way. Her body was imbued with alien rape lake juice that forced her body to become a lustful loving automaton. She could do nothing but watch with confusion as Tails and her body fornicated. Nothing but squelching and moaning. She doesn't even know why they're ding this.
She cried. All she knew is that something was stolen from her.
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>>573966841
Tails raped his cousin
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>>573960664
Blaze’s entire story was about making friends though.

>>573962330
>Blaze doesn’t notice/care that an entire universe was rewritten
Incredibly funny now that I think about that.
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How is it ethical to force someone to fall in love with you using magic?
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>>573967051
Evan made this fat slob of a gay donut steel OC just so that pillow-biting Twitter user could use him as a self-insert
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Tails raped everyone I guess
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>>573967051
Which is Better, Rotorfag or this guy right here?
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Mina actually pretended to be extremely drunk the first time she made a move on Tails so that he would feel like he took advantage of her and then feel obligated to do whatever she said
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Amy
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Tails is pure and innocent
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Cute Tails love without rape or manipulation!
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>>573966898
>>573967072
dude they didn't even get to first base before she regenerated into a seed lmao
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>>573967469
I bet he waters it with rape lake water
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>>573967469
Tails raped that scene
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>>573967460
Yeah!
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Why is the pedo self replying
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>>573967605
<3
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>>573967257
#giveniteanddongirlfriends2026
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>>573967391
What is she doing with Sonic?
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>>573966508
See, he's the one who understands when the tides will swing
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>>573967636
This whole time I thought it was 2 gay lovers who log on at the same time every day, but I'm starting to wonder myself as well.
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Metal
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>>573967663
Tails is just too good for this world...
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>>573967832
We just barely missed each other multiple times in the past few days unfortunately

>>573967870
Yeah...
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>>573967718
What she always dreamed of
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>>573968003
Oh yeah I noticed that too lol
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>>573965808
I liked Tommy, but wasn't that upset when he died. It was kind of cool to see lasting consequences back when those issues were coming out.

If Tommy were still around today, I imagine he'd be one of the many, many Sonic characters who is liked but generally takes a back seat to more popular characters
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>>573966074
What's going on with him
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>>573967072
They didnt even kiss dude. It's not that deep.
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Goodnight /sthg/....

Expect Tailshaters. You can go sleep at the dog house
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>>573968348
A magic lake made them fall in love and they lived and slept on the same space ship
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>>573968209
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>>573967719
So he's breaking down doors, never following!!
based and windpilled
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Tails and Cosmo's sex organs are probably not compatible, but they were forced to try it anyway due to the magic spell
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Forced meme
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>>573968516
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>>573968018
Sonic already loves her. Why is she wishing?
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>>573968920
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Forced love
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>>573966074
>>573968516
>>573968920
>>573969104

Big oof
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>>573968401
Goodnight! ^-^
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Ah that was late he's probably already left
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The drama around that obsession movie is embarrassing honestly I knew casuals would behave this way with the movie ugh
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>>573968401
Skito remember to take your meds.
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>>573969631
It was based on Tails and Cosmo's relationship
The girl even begs to be killed by her "lover" in both stories
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Kitsunami
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>>573968920
>>573969583
Kek
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>>573969449
>>573969583
Nigga this isn’t a fucking discord server.
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>>573969736
would you please hold my hand
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Boy!
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>>573969631
This but only because relationship drama is sadly far too common these days just look at how people cling to stuff like love island
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I hate Tails so much
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>>573969898
>best couple won

Based
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*starts seething at drawing of cartoon animals*
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>>573970228
Movienic is definitely geeked over this lol de seems like a love island enjoyer
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The lesson we should all learn from the sonic movies is to race mix with hot black women so we can be as cool as lord donut, trust me im a media literacy expert
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>>573970414
I don't care about the politics but I would fuck Maddie
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>>573970370
>uses asterisks
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>>573970228
The hottest least annoying ones this season honestly
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Shadow could make amy so happy
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I love Tails so much
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>>573970541
>oh noes not asterisks!
This is such a strange thing to get caught up on.
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*hides post*
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>>573970228
>dat hairline
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>>573970836
>lol obsessed
Poor b8 m8
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Personally I'm interested to see what Blackwood is gonna be all about
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blackwood sounds like a fleetway character
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>>573971171
Lol, you're right. He does.
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>THE MANDELA CATALOGUE is getting a movie

Slow down Hollywood slow it down NOOOOOOW
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>>573970642
>Shadow making facial expressions that Sonic would make and having the same kind of social confidence as Sonic just to make Shadamy look palpable
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>>573971285
KEK
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>>573971285
Toddler unfunny shit humor
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>>573971279
At least it not Jeff the killer
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What IDW background character would you want to get the Lanolin treatment (I mean becoming a full character).

>But the comic sucks and would ruin them anyway!
Just pretend the comic isn't complete shit. Just answer.
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>>573971510
The cleavage monkey
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>>573971510
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>>573971663
I need this guy to become as relevant as possible
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>>573971663
That might actually make Sega pull the plug on IDW. Its perfect!
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>>573971663
Nice try, but this is from Archie Sonic online.
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I'm so sic and tired of these furry background characters and Sonic Team's aversion towards human NPCs in the games
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>>573971663
Perfect!
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>>573971510
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They love each other they just don’t know it yet
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>>573967391
>character in the movie is named nikki
Nice
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>>573971510
Sonic could use some dog friends
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>>573971871
Yeah got me *shows up anyway* *bullies sonic and friends for the rest of idws run*
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>>573972153
Press the circle button to slide!
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>>573972136
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>>573972162
>Half-lids: Out of character
>Shadow being as comfortable as Sonic with hugs from Amy: Out of character
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Jax is just what Scourge would be if Evan wrote him
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>>573972389
Duo having sex with the Diamond Cutter
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>>573972493
Evan did write Scourge. Go read her fancomic Ghosts of the Future.
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>>573971965
The only reason we don't have human NPCs yet is because they haven't created new models for humans.
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>>573972389
The first one would've been funny as fuck to have as a disguise. It would feel like Mimic's just trolling the Restoration.
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>>573968583
Come on and psyche yourself up, 'cause it's time to play!
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>>573972362
Jax can only bully mentally ill people, the sonic cast is too kind and woke they’d see through Jax’s bullshit right away and he’d end up trooning out and then bullying jewel but would have to stop bullying whenever whisper and tangle show up because their mere presence would cause him severe gender dysphoria and suicidal thoughts
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>>573973097
Bounce through the beats and the rhymes cuz we're here to stay!
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>>573971285
>Is my self-insert noticeable?
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>>573973191
The one and only marathon man, livin' the day
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>>573973375
Blowin' up, comin' fast, and he'll blow you away!
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Man this game really doesn't know what it wants to be.
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>>573973439
Because the pressures of this world, they can TAKE THEIR TOLL!
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>>573973532
Don't you like references, anon?
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>>573973659
take a guess
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>>573973532
>>573973659
What is that thing?
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>>573973776
Not that thing, but that whole stage, anon.
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>>573973659
>>573974147
It's always funny to me when people knock that stage not knowing that it's a very intentional reference to another Sega game.
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twist
twist
twist
CRACK
ahh, what a relief
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>>573972136
I’m more convinced that Lanolin is the same Lanolin from Garfield and Friends.
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>>573972726
I miss the human NPCs. They made the hub worlds of SA1 and Unleashed so much more enjoyable
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>>573974672
who’s getting cracked?
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>>573975301
Krack.
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buttkrack
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>>573974646
What does it being a reference have to do with literally anything?
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>>573975435
Sonic fans hate references because Ian did too many of them
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>>573975435
Because it provides context instead of just being a meaningless genre change in the middle of the game, which is usually what people criticize it for.
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>>573975804
If every other stage were an obscure reference would that automatically be a justification for the lack of consistency because le context?
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>>573975928
Just say you're mad about it and stop trying to act smart.
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Amy is cute
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>>573976268
Correct.
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>>573973651
And its tough to get away when they TAKE A HOLD!
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>>573975964
>doesn't answer the question
I've made my point.
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>>573977127
Keep seething, brother, no one gives a shit.
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>>573976268
>>573976445
Yes she is!
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>>573977232
We love our pink rat.
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>>573976887
The only way to break free is to BREAK THE MOLD!
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>>573977785
CAN STOP NOW! LOCK AND LOAD! DON'T STOP NOW CMON AND ROCK AND ROCK AND ROLL! (Roll...roll...)
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>>573977185
>ragequits
Bye.
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>>573972136
It's Gar the Field!
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When it gets real quiet, do you guys yearn for the past and worry for the future?
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https://youtu.be/yByBIYv9_Rg?t=234
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>>573975928
>obscure reference
Fantasy Zone ain't THAT obscure in Japanland. This isn't much more obscure to them than PuyoPuyo/MeanBean in Sonic Mania...
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>Werehog comes back for zone in the next game
>"Power-UP!"
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>>573978024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx0LJldVyZg
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>>573978018
When it gets real quiet I masturbate to sonic
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>>573966805
>everyone as they'd want to be remembered
>except the beecorpse since he just showed up to be dead even though the comic acts as if he was always alive and with us the whole time
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>>573978980
Would you like to go back to a time before you jacked off to Sonic for the first time?
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>>573979159
Yeah I do remember my first Sonadow porn..
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>>573978018
https://youtu.be/ozwP5fknWn8
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My first time touching my dick on cartoon porn was with a nude pic of amy.

God, how simple everything used to be...
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>>573965708
>Tails is both a rapist and the raped
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This general has a surprising amount of digimon fans.

>>573979525
Remember when average looking women naked used to turn you on?
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>>573959174
>when Cosmo the seedrian had less personality than Cosmo the seed
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I love the smell of bait >>573965708 in the morning.
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>>573978907
Almost made me miss that stage when I actually used to really dislike that stage when I used to play it on my Mega Drive back then.
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>>573979525
Fionafag…
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>>573979903
Yes, although they're still way better than whatever voluptuous bullshit we invent nowdays.
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>>573979740
I missed these two >>573967281 >>573967387. I hope to see more tomorrow.
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>>573979009
>purple unicorns
...
like.
like mobeans, or...?
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If tails is a rapist, dark boy is the sweetest lover.
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>>573980328
Nine never had a chance against HER.
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>>573971285
Hmmm, self-insert sexo.
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>>573979298
who drew it?
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It was divine punishment.

Now, if something similar could happen to sega.....
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In other words Cosmo sucks fertilizer and the real debate for Tails' rider is between Mina and Zooey
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>>573980887
Think again, harlots
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>>573980860
W-what are you implying, anon?!
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In the meantime, i shall headpat the boy.
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>>573980860
Inaccurate, niggers to poor to buy Nintendo
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>>573980887
>>573981124
>Tails' rider
>anyone but Sonic
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>>573981270
I don't get the classist insult on /v/ "you're just too poor to buy this". I mean, videogames are just shitty toys who cares if you can't afford their overpriced thumb wrestling.
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>>573978024
>It is not clear
Yes it fucking is and the distinction between "Classic Sonic" and "Modern Sonic" wasn't official until 2011.
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>>573973105
Tangle&Whisper would cause him to larp as a TAOSTH character probably kek
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>>573975804
>>573978290
lmao
Everyone praised the Puyo Puyo boss in Mania. People really just shit on Superstars because it's not made by fans.
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>>573981150
Nintendo must suffer because thry're too rigid on copyright.

Sega must suffer because they're too relaxed on picking every retard on twitter to write for them.
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>>573980887
>>573981315
>Tails' rider
>anyone other than Honey
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>>573981626
It's a team effort
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>>573981493
There was no distinction before. They started with it on Generations, so they could have an excuse to fill some plot holes like Metal on Sonic 4.
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>>573981504
does like gangle or what??? turning into a loney tune is kind of disturbing for what he done to her
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>>573981626
>SOAniggers deadass tried to give gameHoney the Archieboots like they did gameRay
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>>573981158
Good!
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>>573981781
Great choices except for passing on Barby and Rosemary. Regina Ferrum and Conquering Storm are so kino I'll forgive you though
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>>573981878
No it got confirmed recently that they were very toxic pairing
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tailspedos never sleep, except with boys
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>>573980887
>Tails' rider
>what is Yacker
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>>573981504
neither of us exist
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>>573982371
Kek
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I am a war machine.
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>>573982601
Cool, i am Iron man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3-QqGVt-tM
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why are memes so vague and unhinged now I'm scrolling past the weirdest shit rn
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>>573979998
>I used to play it on my Mega Drive back then.
Age?
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>>573981728
Perci....lost....
(also, screwy door)
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Jax the panic attack tranny.
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>>573982825
You shouldn't ask those kinds of things, silly anon.
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>>573982824
I don't mind those kinds of memes I like that stuff to a degree as long as the person who post it isn't a hostile weirdo snark it's fine
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Amy...
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>>573983526
Get Mabel and Skyler the fuck out of that circle. The overcorrection on those two is off the charts.
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:3 >:( :D
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>>573982501
>>573982371
Jax makes fanarts of Sonic transitioning
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>>573983526
I think we just need to recognize that women are just horrible unless everything is going perfectly fine
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>>573983968
They're still terrible even when everything is going perfectly fine.
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>>573983526
I think we just need to recognize that women's idea of good relatable writing is making a character crash out and act completely unreasonable at every single minor inconvenience.
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>>573983968
Men also make better females. They are irrelevant. Perfect society is a male only society who gets pregnant through buttsex
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>>573984318
go on...
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>>573984318
Violet...
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>>573984318
Keep your faggot shit for yourself.
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IDW Sonic needs to introduce a villainous organization that's like Akatsuki or the Espada in the comic. That might bring hype for once.
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>>573984165
True because they always find something to complain about
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>>573984415
No
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>>573984318
he would say this
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>>573972362
>Jax
...and dies as a canon tranny cuck at the end
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Lanolin will never recover from this btw.
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>>573984725
You mean Whisper won't. She's the one who got bitch-thrown.
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Women are nice you can't hate them.
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>>573984725
>>573984785
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>>573984725
Everyone deserves redemption. Well Americas don't believe this, that's why they kill criminals with a death penalty. But they are asleep. Here in Europe we believe in redemption
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>>573984786
>Women are nice
No they aren't
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>>573984786
Women literally are causing the downfall of western society
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>>573984914
how so?
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>>573984785
Nobody cares about that since Whisper is characterized for being a victim and always jobs anyway.
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>>573984882
The world would be much better if some people just disappeared. like epstein and his friends in israel
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>>573984786
>Women are nice you can't hate them.
Their boobs are nice, themselves not so much.
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>>573984980
Women act nice but are rude and mean underneath
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girls > women
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>>573984969
Now just because they're not meant for leadership positions it doesn't mean they're not kind whenever they can.
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Be an Infinite. Don't be a Whisper.
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>>573985037
So are men, men are so weak they destroy friendships whenever it's about women and resources. But would you hate every man like you do with women?
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>>573985113
How long is IDW going to ignore the fact Eggman is also the cause of her team being dead and should be after him too?
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>>573984497
Only if they have a mantis character themed after this guy
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>>573984318
>Men also make better females.
So true. So fuckign true.
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idw is for homos
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>>573985187
Forever. They couldn't even follow up on Espio wanting to kill Eggman for the Metal Virus outbreak.
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>Here, this how much i care.
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anons, what could you possibly do to make sonic scream like this? https://x.com/TheBlueGale/status/2076441729738088953?s=20
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>>573985285
Gadget is so horny and relatable
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FLEETWAY SONIC, YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!
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>>573985307
Lol, I forgot that Espio used to be on the "Kill Eggman" team. All that went nowhere.
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>>573985520
This is what Ian wants from Sonic but for the wrong reasons.
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>>573985763
>Fleetway Sonic meets the only one who can match him barb-for-barb... Fleetway Sonic.
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>>573985763
>What on Mobius was that?
Oh no Fleetway Sonic, you really can't say THAT!
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Which character probably plays horror games?
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>>573984725
Whisper is clearly meant for Shadow. They make her job in the comics as much as they make Shadow job.
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>>573985037
lmao, women don't even hide it underneath anymore. Imagine if men walked around calling women ugly because they're fat. Women do the equivalent to short guys, poor guys, and ugly guys. Women don't have souls. Only resources.
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What if Nine had sex?
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>>573985148
I don't hate men because if they piss me off I just kick their asses, but with women I have a moral dilemma.
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>>573985950
The reality is EVERYONE including Sonic should be on Team Kill Eggman. That giant talking Egg is literally the reason everything is so fucked.

You know, one of the biggest crimes of the Metal Virus arc is proving Sonic wrong. Not cause Sonic is infallible but cause (I believe) Sonic would know better.

Tinker wasn't a threat. Okay, keep an eye on him incase shit goes south NOT this retardation about "derp I see gud in people". Nigger, you don't believe in Jesus and you aren't Jesus so don't try that forgiveness shit. And if only to flex on how retarded Ian's writing, this isn't a Patty Hearst situation. Tinker wasn't kidnapped & brainwashed into committing crimes. He was just Eggman with amnesia.
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Jesus christ the metal virus arc was over five years ago and you niggas are still mad at it
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>>573987356
you don't like redeem saar?
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>>573987601
How long ago was Sonic 06, Sonic Boom, The Pendering, The Slap, Sonic Forces, Sonic 4, etc.

You get the point. Or maybe you're retarded and don't. So when is Ian going to get the Freedom Fighters into IDW again?
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>>573980570
Idk it was super old ancient 00s yaoi paddle stuff. The Author probably got married or something
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>>573987970
No I don't get the point. Why are Sonicdags so stuck in the past. MOVE ON already.
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>>573984867
She had nothing to apologise for
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>>
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>dags
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If you draw a pentagram and masturbate to Silver he will appear in the next mainline game
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>>573989513
Be careful what you wish for
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>>573984867
Bitch deserved this.
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>>573989545
A cum soaked Silver in the game?
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How would you resolve the Redeemnic stuff and get Sonic back on track to be more IC? And no, you can't just ignore it.
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That info of Shadow hating all of humanity was already on SoJ listed for years and nobody had a problem with that
It's SoA fans who has the problem with that, do they even like this franchise, always complaining
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PINGGERS
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>>573989513
It works i did this and amy became playable in frontiers
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I miss Slingver anon
He missed on Soleil smuts
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Pingas mmhhahahahahahahahaha
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>>573990078
They're secondaries who are only following this franchise for fan-engagment. They don't really play the games and don't really know what's going on in the series outside of social media.
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>>573990462
I wonder if he likes Blackwood
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>>573990052
...Just stop having him say nonsense about redeeming Eggman.
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Stop making Sonic think too much. It's stupid. God it's like he's aging along with the series when he's supposed to be perpetually 15.
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>>573991678
Erm actually, he needs to be relatable to 30yo single women, chud
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>>573991678
if you don't then you're having Lost World in which Tails was roboticized cvz of Sonic
And Prime in which the whole world was changed cvz Sonic didn't think
Your choice
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>>573991678
That's why Sonic Prime is the best Sonic. Only self inserters hate him
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I emulated Shadow Generations a few years back but picked it up on Steam cause it was on sale and I thought there was gonna be a ton of good mods for it like Frontiers
This game is DEAD in the modding community wtf. Same with the Sonic Gens side of it. I asked for a refund but wtf happened?
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Sonic is an incredibly unlikable person and i have no idea how he's the protagonist.
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>>573992496
Why would you mod Shadow gens? It's not a long game. Play Crossworlds instead
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>>573992496
I saw there's a cool looking WIP stages mod
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>>573992496
I've seen plenty of mods, but what kind did you expect?
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>>573992689
He is hot
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>>573992716
That's like saying why would you mod Sonic Generations
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>>573993134
That's a good question. The gameplay in that game is so lame. The stages people made are cool and all, but looking back it's upsetting that all the SA1 modders from the time completely dropped the game to focus on Generations instead when it released, just as SA1 modding was starting to become something big.
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>>573992689
He's what you get when the stars collide.
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>>573992496
>few years back
Nigga it hasnt been even 2 years
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>>573993514
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>>573990078
Shadow not liking people ruins a lot of ships and fanon
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>>573993768
It doesn't make sense until you realize that it coincides with what Iizuka said about Shadow protecting the planet because he respects Maria's wish.
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>>573993930
>what Iizuka said
>it's literally just what they say in-game
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>i wasted 2 years in this shithole already
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>>573992496
you know you like it here
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There is that TokTik video about Amy's bio and I was actually shocked that it's actually 50/50 split in thr comments that it is bad/who cares
But there are some outliers of course, such as this thing
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>>573994035
What do you wish you were doing instead?
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>>573994035
Only 2?
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>>573994035
Get used to it new fag, 10 to 20 more years of this
>b-but I cn leave-ACK!
You will never leave! You are autistic!
>b-but im not auti-ACK!
Yes you are! You are a Sonic fan, that automatically makes you autistic
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>>573993930
It makes total sense honestly. Shadow is never social in the games
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Being autistic is cool and fun
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>>573994253
Ok Chris-chan
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>>573994194
Let me go stupid sexy bat.
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Archie Shadow still gaslights everybody.
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>>573987356
>You know, one of the biggest crimes of the Metal Virus arc is proving Sonic wrong.
It didn't. The arc just tries really hard to make you feel like he is. And in cheap ways too.
Tinker got taken by Starline because he had a mcguffin that the editors literally made up to let him do so and Metal Sonic found Eggman even though the story established he couldn't find him prior.
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>>573994194
Only Modernfags are autistic
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>>573994645
lol no
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>>573994550
I don't know why they didn't just settle for a black void and left it at that.
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>>573994491
Archie Shadow is anti authenticity and anti autism. It tells kids they don't have value or depth unless they become social and extroverted
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>>573994645
ALL sonic fans are autistic, including you and me
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>>573994748
And that is a good thing
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>>573994668
>t. modernfag
Modern Sonic is autism incarnate that nearly killed the franchise, it should had killed off Modern though
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>>573994817
Sonic Blast and Sonic Xtreme nearly killed the franchise. Sonic Adventure is the only reason it survived the late 90s.
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They can take Amy's panties but even if they try they can't take my Nude mods away
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>>573994901
This. Sonic got innovative which no other furry mascot dared to do at the time and became relics of the past and get lucky to have at least one game every decade or more before being shelved again.
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So if Blaze was never from another dimension, she would've been shilled as the main girlbosd instead?
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If Shadow hates humanity except for Maria then does he also hate Gerald?
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>>573995249
Fuck Gerald
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>>573995249
I mean, Gerald did try to manipulate him and he always saw Maria's death as a bigger tragedy than Gerald's...
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>>573995082
Probably not, that dead fish can't carry the energy of Sonic.
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ABT will draw the Blaze vs Silver issue and you're gonna see IDWfags spamming this issue as the evidence that IDW isn't lame like the first two issues of that arc won't be Blaze jobbing and Dapple being the true hero, not Silver
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>>573994901
Sonic Adventure and all the shit it introduced was the start of the end of Sonic. Ugly lanky redesigns, overly automatic gameplay hold together by duck tape, too much focus on story and cutscenes and way too much focus on realism
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>>573990052
There's nothing to resolve.
Redeemnic started with Perfect Chaos in Sonic Adventure 1. Then he became friends with Shadow in 2. Then he invited Metal Sonic to a rematch after Heroes, like he's Goku.
Eggman can never cross the line so much that cooperation is out of the question. Sage basically says so during Frontiers, when she looks at her archives of every past Sonic game.
Redeemnic is just the end result of Sonic fighting morally grey rivals and god monsters who technically aren't "evil".
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>>573995357
Who the fuck is ABT?
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>>573995468
Can you just...
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>>573995468
Adam Bryce Thomas, lurk moar
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>>573995426
>Ugly lanky redesigns
Only nostalgiafags think the outdated designs look better.

>overly automatic gameplay hold together by duck tape
>focus on realism
That was Sonic 3.

>focus on story and cutscenes
Every Sonic game up to that point was increasing it and increasing it further was a good thing.

>the start of the end of Sonic
And yet here we are.

Sonic Adventure was more successful than any of the previous games by the way. It sold way more than Sonic 3. Sonic 1 and 2 only sold "more" on paper because everyone who bought a Mega Drive was forced to get one or the other as well, their sales are as fake as Wii Sports.
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Douge.
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>>573995490
I put ABT on google and all I get are pictures of cars
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Sonic Xtreme was the real beginning of the end
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>>573995449
>Redeemnic started with Perfect Chaos in Sonic Adventure 1
No it didn't. It's nowhere in the games.
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>>573995468
IDW artist who hates that Sonic has humans.
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>>573990052
You CAN'T resolve it. By presenting it as a core part of Sonic's character, you have turned it into something he won't budget on because Sonic doesn't give in or compromise.
Sonic has to choose to not want to do so based on how he feels in the moment and historically that's what he did. But now its treated as this big deal aspect of his character (and now with the movies tying in, its only gonna stick all the more) so Sonic being Sonic has no choice but to be validated in doing so even if some people will never agree.
That's the only way its gonna end. We're stuck with this for the foreseeable future.
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Is Drogune popular yet?
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>>573995580
>Only nostalgiafags think the outdated designs look better.
Small woodland creatures with a mix of cute and cool is way more universal appealing than lanky humanoid freaks
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>>573994101
Oh so thĂ· people defending it are the minority? Interesting
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classcifags are always satamfags so i don't listen to them
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>>573995883
>Ă·
how could you type that
even randomly
it's not possible
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>>573994687
Because the yoga pants thing was an existing headcanon some artists started using, so they prioritized validating bad headcanon.
Same with the Amy being visually impaired thing.
Same with Shadow liking Latinas meme in Movie 3.
If the last era was the Meta era, we are in the Fanon era.
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>>573995861
Sonic Adventure mixes cute and cool perfectly. The reason the outdated designs were scrapped and considered mistakes by Sonic's original creators in the first place is that they completely failed to convey the cool aspects of the designs. This is why they took the necessary steps to finalize the designs, convey the original intent more accurately, and make them work from any camera angle.
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phonekek
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I am an AoSTH fan, I only want more ytps and im happy, you say PINGAS, and I clap
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>>573994253
That used to be the message at the core of Sonic actually. Unleashed yout autism anf do what you feel even if not eveyone understands or agrees eith it.

Now everyone is trying to force them to conform while insisting they are rebels.
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>>573995965
Wow, so if I make a popular meme or headcanon, Sega will put in official Sonic stuff?
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>>573995965
just movie 3?
it's canon with lantanas being shadow's fav flowers
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>>573996041
Indeed. I know my post might sound like a joke, especially to people who don't already think like this, but I was serious

>Now everyone is trying to force them to conform while insisting they are rebels.
Also true, and sad
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>>573995082
If she wasn't drom another dimension, she wouldn't have the Sol Emeralds or her Burning form. Which are the only reason people pin her as any such thing.
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>>573995981
>The reason the outdated designs were scrapped and considered mistakes by Sonic's original creators
Is that why Naoto Oshima used the Classic designs for Superstars?
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Amy had spats in the Olympic games, nerds. They aren't ruining anything.
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>>573995794
>because Sonic doesn't give in or compromise.
Isn't IDWnic learning a lesson about friendship giving in and compromising?
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>>573995249
No he considers Gerald irreplaceable. Gerald's madness was excused in Shadow's game as being a consequence of GUN and HUMANITY'S actions. Shadow AGREED with destroying the world in SA2. He wasnt brainwashed into doing it against his will.
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>>573965378
Spaz, we miss you, my nigga.
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Spats are sexy because they produce a pronounced Cameltoe
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>popular meme
>canon
You guys act like anything they do is consistent and law automatically. Her design changes from black void to red shorts to spats whenever they want and for whatever purpose. Headcanon has absolutely nothing to do with it lol
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>>573996160
The only reason they used classic designs for anything is because nostalgiafag crybabies like you threw a 15 years long tantrum and they gave you your shitty babynic spinoff that doesn't accurately represent the original games in any way beyond some superficial visual cues. Superstars was made as part of this spinoffs and most of you fags didn't even bother playing it, instead you whined that wasn't made by your favorite ecelebs that you only pretend to like because they are "fans like me" and "classicfags", even though that isn't even the case as you know nothing about them and they actually wanted to make 3D/"Modern" games too, because in reality you never cared about playing Sonic games and just wanted excuses to shit on its real developers because you hate the series.
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I think sonic games should be really edgy and a little sad but no melodrama because i like sa2
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>>573995449
>Redeemnic started with Perfect Chaos in Sonic Adventure 1
No, PumpkinSwift...SA1 Sonic wasn't "redeeming Chaos". Sonic's motivation in SA1 was based on the fact that sealing him away wouldn't solve the issue. It wasnt about wanting to see the good in Chaos and reason him out of being angry.
Chaos was never evil.
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>>573996041
Old Sonic was agree to disagree and that self-fulfillment is found from within.

Nu-Sonic is change to make people like you and agree with everything you're told to.
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>>573996389
Yesit does. It's been that way since hiring Ian and his IDW squad.
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Palworld
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>>573965708
>she fell into a magical rape lake
Who hasn't really?
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>>573996210
No, Sonic was never anti-friendship.
An understated aspect of Sonic's character is how he went through an overarching arc about learning to value friends since he was actually a loner in The classics and is generally just more comfy being on his own and could find company irritable. But because characters like Tails, Amy and Knuckles kind of kept growing to accommodate him and support him, he learns to appreciate it.

That's in the games, and i imagine that this is something written down in character bibles for Sonic since Western writers keep bringing it up. The problem is they do it wrong where they present it as Sonic not properly being a team player and needing to be scolded into being "a proper leader" or whatever because cliche western writing structure.

But no, in general, Sonic learning to apreciate friends and the real super power of teamwork isn't giving in o compromising because he doesnt have a hard stance on it.
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I'm in
and now I'm out
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i don't want to work, working sucks ass.
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My delusions tell me that I am Sonic
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>>573996580
Like anon said, it's been that way since the olympics. Comics have nothing to do with it.
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>>573996389
Look, im not an engeryschizo but youre delusional if you deny what is happening.
>inconsistent.
The other things like drawing a void are just artistic decisions rather than redesigns.
Things like Rumble are just a color change.
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>>573996680
The Raped becomes The Rapist
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>>573996397
Damn I see no wrong statements here.
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>>573996491
Aka "adapting for an American audience"
East vs west.
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>>573996819
>doesn't count because it doesn't fit narrative
No thanks man
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sonic is an ouroboros of shit
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>>573996783
>Olympics.
Anon, she wore those in the Olympics as part of a different outfit because she was dressed for track and field.
Adding them specifically to her base design is a fanon censorship meme some artists did.
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>>573997009
>because it doe-
No, anon. It doesn't count because it substantively does not. Try engaging woth the substance of the conversation instead of trying to "get a semantic win".
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They wanted to do upskirt shots and didn't want freaks going crazy over her panties. It's a censorship thing that started well before comics. Shorts are just more tasteful and make more sense with 3D and physical stuff.
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>>573997312
Defending SOA decisions is unforgivable
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>>573996397
Are you sure that Classic Sonic now being it's own brand and keeps going is JUST because of "nostalgiafag tantrum"?
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>>573997312
Why do they wanna do upskirt shots so much to begin with? Even in the animation we were shown, she is never once in a position where you would see anything even without them.
They are there more to virtue signaling than for practicality.

But whatever. Its nit a battle worth fighting.
I would just prefer something less ugly that doesn't clash with the outfit.
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Just make the Riders outfits canon if they don't want to worry about dresses.
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>>573997517
NTA but yeah it is, bout also a safety net. Mania didnt sell as well as forces but it did have better public reception , so the Classic brand is a safety net so not all their eggs are strictly in one basket.
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I'm surprised the movies were able to do a joke where Tom pretends to be interested in another woman and Maddie hits him
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>>573995981
If they used Modern Sonic's shitty design back in 1991 the series would not have taken off
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>>573997517
That's the reason it started. It's kept going because Generations was successful and SEGA's CEO sees it as a part of the brand now. You fags don't want to support Classic brand games unless they have the Meme team behind them, and the whole point of that brand is stagnation, so expect it to get killed after one or two more games unless you change your behavior and actually start liking Sonic (you haven't done this for the past 35 years, I doubt you'll start now).
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>>573997632
Sonic in 1991 was successful in spite of the character design flaws, not because of them. The updated design emphasizes all the good aspects of the original while removing the glaring issues that made people like you miss the point of the character.
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>>573997632
Modern Sonic's design was made by incorporating elements of Burger Sonic to begin with who is objectively worse than both JP Classic and Modern Sonic.
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>>573997442
I'm just explaining what's happening and why it's happening. Crying to people here changes nothing.
>>573997534
They want to showcase Amy in action they same way they do for Rouge and it involves a lot of flips and maneuvers that show different angles of her body. It's less about wanting upshots specifically but more about wanting to use their characters while keeping them decent. That's all it is.
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Sonic was never good
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>>573997895
Sonic was always good, and got better.
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>>573997686
Classicfags will pnly buy a new classic game if it stays in Megaman 9-10 hell and remains pixel graphics and using assets from PreDreamcast games.
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>>573997940
Good at sucking and better at stinking.
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>>573997536
Why should Amy be running everywhere like she is specifically dressed for Airboarding?
Her core design is overall "better" and reflects her personality better.
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>>573997825
>Modern Sonic's design was made by incorporating a worse version of his design into him
so by your own statement, Modern Sonic is worse looking than Classic
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>>573997836
>They want to showcase Amy in action they same way they do for Rouge and it involves a lot of flips and maneuvers that show different angles of her body.
Sonic X did this and had no issue.
Prime also did it and it had no issue.
It's not a real problem. Any angle where they deliberately draw several frames of seeing under her skirt are chosen. You can have Amy do flips and shit without seeing anything. Limitation breeds creativity.

And besides, people are gonna peek up there anyway. It doesnt matter.
>>573997836
>That's all it is.
No it isn't. Again, there are no shots on the animation we saw where you could or would have seen anything.
So it's not a real issue.

But like I said, its not a winning battle anyeay because of you argue against itz you will just be accused of being a Diddy ahh blud pervert who wants to see hedgepussy

Thankfully a good deal of people are coming around to having a reasonable conversation about it in regards to hoe it affects her design and that's the part that actually matters.
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>>573997957
Autism is a hell of a drug, though I wonder how accepting adventure fans would be if they released a new entry, and it was "off" in many minute ways like Superstars is to the classics
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hides your post
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I don't even like sonic, yet I'm trapped shitposting here.
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>>573998318
>anounncing your filters
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I used to like Sonic but now I'm trapped shitposting here
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No filters necessary
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>>573998074
Depends. I think Yasuhara Classic Sonic is the best he looked. But I think the design is fundementally flawed because his limbs and proportions are nor suited for action.
Its the same issue Kid Goku had where early dragonball was mostly Goku launching himself at the enemy moreso than doing any actual marching arts fighing because this opponants where usually designed like proper human adults.

Modern Sonic I feel was a bit TOO loose with SA2 and got balanced out by the Heroes/advance era.

Current Modern Sonic is stiff as hell.

In general, I believe Modern Sonic took the elements of Burger Sonic's artstyle that were worth keeping and incorporated them into Sonic in a way that is stronger than the sum of its parts and made something truly unique and special.
But there is still a charm to Classic Sonic that NuClassic also doesnt capture.
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shan't be engaging
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>>573998296
SA1fags would never accept it.
SA2fags would be split. They would more just want the game feel and gameplay more than anything.
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>>573998527
>marching
*martial
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I have a girl pee fetish
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>>573998296
>"off" in many minute ways
origins is off in minute ways. you might as well be comparing unleashed to sa2 and asking if adventurefags accept it as a true adventure title
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>>573998527
>Modern Sonic I feel was a bit TOO loose with SA2
*SA1
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every sonic game should have the same tone as sa2
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>15 years of me never interacting with the fanbase
>a pair of years with sthg and that's enough to understand that everything sonic got was deserved
>from the downfall, to the sellout, to the lesbian whoring out, all of it
Cereal mascot.
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>>573998919
That would get old real fast. We need lighter games in-between so those games hit.
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>>573998527
It's nice to see people realize Sonic in the games has had basically a different design in nearly every game (excluding some 2010s stagnation) rather than just 2.
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>>573999126
I agree with this
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>>573999126
I used to think this but now we get one mainline game every 7 years
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>>573999126
Probably another reason why Frontiers didn't hit after Forces
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Need more games with the tone Heroes had.
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Sonic games should have the tone of Alota's drawings and I'm NOT JOKING
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>>573999720
Unremarkable and jarring ?
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Adventure, Heroes, and Unleashed have the best tone
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>>574000098
Sonic games should be fast paced, not lame nad boring.
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>>573999720
need more games with wolf
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>>574000140
That game's success cannot be understated. It still has a chokehold on the franchise.
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>>574000239
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>>573999720
Need more of Whisper's chocolate nipples
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>>573995357
>Dapple being the true hero, not Silver
Shit, I hadn't even thought of that. Could you image if Blaze not only loses her agency just to make Silver look like the hero, but then Silver gets cucked out of his moment anyway by some OC? It'd be like the Sage arc but worse
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The 2000s Sonic games should have been more obnoxiously 2000s
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>>574000296
>>574000434
She'll be in Heroes 2 on a team with Tangle and Silverrrr
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>>574000481
I think the handheld games probably did that the best.
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Tails' Crush
Part 2: For the Love of Zooey
>FADE-IN TEXT: The Next Morning...
>SCENE: Tails' Workshop, Exterior. Morning. TAILS walks out in a daze, forgetting his toolstrap/gear. SONIC spots him on a run an rushes up to him, jogging in place.
>SONIC: Hey, Tails! What's up? You look drained.
>TAILS: *snaps awake* Oh! Hi, Sonic! It's nothing, I... *yawn* Zo kept me up all night...
>SONIC: *stops jogging* Oh! So you two...hit it off?
>TAILS: *chuckles* You can say that again...
>SONIC: *blinks, then realizes* Oh! WOW... Hmm, maybe you ARE the only thing faster than me! Um, in that regard, I mean! Not on foot!
>TAILS: Thanks, Sonic. Anyway, I'm off to get groceries for her.
>SONIC: Wait, she's... *points finger cautiously at workshop* Overnight?
>TAILS: Yup! Zooey decided that's her 'den' I mean. That reminds me, I oughtta kit-proof it.
>SONIC: KIT-proof?!
>Not taking a single word of this any longer, STICKS pops out of the nearby bushes.
>STICKS: Ahh, I can't take this anymore! This isn't the dependable little two-tailed fox boy we know! You've changed, kid! Wake up! You're growing up too fast! You're under the foul spell of that harpy...vampiress...no, Succubus!
>TAILS: Who, Zooey? You've got it all wrong! She's nothing of the sort, guys! She's just my cousin, that's all.
>SONIC:
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>>574000417
Frontiers is better than all of these.
>Try to play old Sonic game
>Controls make me want to vomit
No thank you. I rather evolve
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>>574000417
Dafuq is soul and kino supposed to mean?
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>>574001102
Lurk moar
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This must be the boring shitposting some of you mentioned before
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>>574001102
Pictured: Kino.
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>>573999457
I see where you are coming from but I think the solution is just to have smaller games inbetween entries again.

>>573999534
Partially. Though Forces doesnt sell its stakes as much as it really should.
If anything I think things like Origins and IDW are supposed to help break things up but idk it just doesn't do it for me.
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Amy's facing Honey today
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>>574000098
Unironically agree. He rocks.
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>>573999197
Yeah, even the seperation between Classic and Modern isn't as cut and dry as people insist. His design was always being tweaked back then.

I think it's telling that OVA tried lengthening his limbs and Junio Sonic has to cheat the design a lot to get cool poses though.
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>>573999720
I actually agree. It was a good balance. It felt like Sonic 3&K but Modern Sonic in terms of tone imo.
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>>574001548
I dont care about turdworld ball
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Human Background characters are a must-have
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>>574001070
>Controls make me want to vomit
Brother is so used to Sonic controlling like a tank with stiff overly forgiving controls and design instead of a 3D action platformer he runs off the edge all the time.
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>>574001830
Um, anon...
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>>574001804
I dont even think they HAVE to be present but if we are gonna have NPCs, thry should be humans. I dont even mind a minority of non-human NPCs but they should be standouts rather than seen as the norm.
No, we dont need fantasy racism either.
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>>574002006
I think humans are a necessity because anthro background characters will always be the stupid forces models
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>>573996680
Ditto
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>>574002068
I'm more saying we dont even always need NPCs to begin with.
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>>574002309
Tru
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>>573998527
Nopersonalitynic
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>>573999720
Sonic World DX
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I just took a huge shit, my bowels and my bladder are completely empty, it was GREAT!
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>>573981315
And Amy.
Sometimes Knuckles...
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>>574001321
Yeah, reselling old games and a comic that got mixed reception since it's worst arc would leave a lot of people wanting something actually fun and fresh to look forward to. I wasn't too fond of Forces or Frontiers myself, but if I ask for something more light-hearted I get Sonic & Friends.
>>574001679
I like that comparison.
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>>574001834
Sonic Frontiers is just much more smooth and doesn't give you motion sickness for playing the game. The supposed "freedom", if by freedom you mean skipping gameplay that Frontiers can also do, then I rather play Frontiers than the absolute garbage that is SA2
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>>574002748
YutaAGC...
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>>574001070
06 perfected the controls
>but P-06
is not 06.
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>>573985520
See >>574000996!
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Saying anything in Frontiers is smooth is demonic
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>>574003168
Is better than 06 in every possible way
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>>574002473
Wdym
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>>574003397
06 is easily the best 3D sonic by a lot
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You're laughing? Amy's Japanese characterization and her love for Sonic is being raped to oblivion and you're laughing?
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>>574003416
Shitposting
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>>574003271
Compared to old Sonic games, it is
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>>574003513
I don't need to compare it to anything new or old to smell what you're cooking.
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Sex
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>>574003271
Yeah but I'm stuck playing the poorfag Switch-1 version also because Sony and Microsoft haven't exactly convinced me that they're the lesser evils lately
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>>574003027
>Sonic Frontiers is just much more smooth and doesn't give you motion sickness for playing the game.
I dont even agree that it is. It's just that it is open so there is no tight maneuvering to do most of the time.

>The supposed "freedom", if by freedom you mean skipping gameplay that Frontiers can also do, then I rather play Frontiers than the absolute garbage that is SA2

The appeal of adventure era gameplay wasn't really "freedom". It was that it allowed for player driven action and movement with clear challenges that encouraged mastery over simply going through the motions.
Game felt like a parkour game where you were controlling a character in a thought out environment.
Levels on Frontiers dont really tell a story or have an identity.
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People who think X has accurate characterization need to fuck off already
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>>574002993
Man I miss the upgrade items, they were sonetimes clumsy additions to the models but they gave the games more character.
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>>574002748
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>>573996389
Ian had Sonic say "Tails' i should just give you the Tornado at this point" because he believes everyone just assuming its his plane should be validated over the fact its Sonic's. Same with the idea Green Hill was their first meeting or trying to make CD happen after 3&K.
All to satisfy his headcanons.
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Me showing Pikachu what I am going to do to him after what I did to Sonic
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>>574004323
Does all of this happen in Origins?
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>>574004323
>trying to make CD happen after 3&K
NTA; that's sonething I'll agree with him on.
inb4 "who-cares, it's-timetravel"
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>>574004810
There is literally no reason to want to have CD happen after other than to shill Metal Sonic or satisfy some headcanon about CD being Eggman trying to do Generation's story back in the Classic era.
>>574004801
Just the Sonic and Rggman origin thing.
As it turns out, CD was already always before Sonic 2. SoA tried to retcon it for Sonic 4 but that stuff contradicted Sonic 3&K by trying to claim both Sonic and Knuckles' stories happened concurrently.
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You guys have no idea what it feels to be a newfags, playing a game written by Ian, and now understanding half of the dialogue because it is full of references you don't understand and places you don't remember
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>>573965378
fuck off with the archieshit
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>>574004780
>
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>>574005175
why do you still get mad even when there's nothing ooc
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>>574005236
Where did you take that picture of me?
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>>574005269
maybe im not an amerimongrel? maybe i like seeing sonic being about sonic not "OMG SALLY JUST KISSED SOMEONE. LETS TALK ABOUT SALLY OOOHHH ITS SALLY AND SHES BACK AGAIN" all of this stupid archie faggotry and satam shit wasnt even about sonic it was only sally
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and most importantly?
VIDEO
GAME
GENERAL
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>>574005382
What about the reboot
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>>574005058
>when 'After-3K' activists (yes, really) got Shmuplations to change their interview translation because Yasushi Yamaguchi said CD took place before 2 (highly nuanced!)
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>>574005513
OC general
Post your OC
Share your favorite fanfic
Draw something ik the whiteboard
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>>574005513
franchise containment general
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>>574005382
>"OMG SALLY JUST KISSED SOMEONE
I said when there's nothing ooc. sonally is ooc
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>>574004323
Tails had his own logo slapped all over Sonic's plane by the Adventure Era
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Heroes General
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>>574005175
>>574005382
None of that shit's going on in the OP image. Sounds like you're just obsessed, lil bro, to an unhealthy degree.
I recommend backing away from the screen before you hallucinate some more.
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>>574005382
The tommy turtle arc happened during the era when sally and sonic weren't dating and sonic was literally saying he wouldn't havea gf
remember, archie was planning to just dump sonally completely before Ian brought it back
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What country are you visiting this summer anon?
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>>574006193
None, I'm a poorfag from India
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>>574006317
Then just visit india
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>>574006193
New York is hell on earth
France is full of niggers
The UK is full of knife-happy muslim niggers
China is China
Japan is full of niggers now
Egypt is full of niggers

None of them
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>>574005058
>>574005534
Funny enough we've had confirmation for D E C A D E S that Sonic CD is a Sonic 2 prequel. Ian really did try to memoryhole previous material and say "none of that matters, my book that cribs the wiki citing that stuff IS The Canon (hint-hint replace all the citations for me, the old stuff is noncanon ancient history because I said so)" Then Sonic Origins was The Final Word on it lol
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>>574006165
>archie was planning to just dump sonally completely before Ian brought it back
WHY DID HE DO THIS
WE WERE ALMOST FREE
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>>574006193
>niggers
Based
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>>574006727
>WE
hi sonamyfag. sonamy is as ooc as sonally
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>>574005156
Maybe you should not have been a newfag? stop being selfish
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>>574006830
Not even close.
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>>574006830
>everyone who understands that sonally was doomed to fail is a sonamyfag
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>>574006193
Antarctica
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>>574004323
>>574006696
It's always Ian did this, Ian changed that, etc.
Why does no one consider the possibility that it was a change made by SEGA themselves?
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>>574006193
Russia
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>>574006967
I don't think Penders's plot would have been good (making Shadow extremely OOC to fix Sonic is not a good answer) but there are interesting stories to be told when the main couple just doesn't work.
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>>574005534
>>574006696
Holy shit these people are mentally ill and insane.
Why does CD being before Sonic 2 bother them THIS MUCH?

Is it really just Ian cultists? Really?
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>>574006696
>Princess Sally in 1994
oh SHIT, it wasn't just the merimutt manual??
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>>574007000
Because they have no reason to change it unless someone else tells them the change would be good or desirable. Christmas Island was considered canon all the way up to even around Forces.
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>>574007120
To kill Putin ?
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There is something really cool during the adventure era when Sonic and friends were just this vagabond group of youngsters who weren't really a "superhero team" or dutiful cops/super heroes who ended up coincidentally running into each other and saving the world. Action movies from the 2000s also had a lot of that before the rise of the MCU. You don't see much more of that outside of specifically the Fast and Furious franchise anymore. It's all super heroes and chosen ones.
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>>574007320
Nope! They were literally trying to erase Amy and downplay in America to push/protect Sally. We've been trying to tell you.
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>>574007508
You can’t hate the MCU enough.
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>>574007453
To escape the heat
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>>574007638
I try not to but it's impossible not to see how the MCU affected everything. Young hero characters always invoke Tom Holland's Spider-Man. Tony Stark's quips became an industry staple. Everything is always about slowly building out a universe and hyping up tiny elements from the source material. Even the Sonic movies did this. The Sonic movies would be completely different if the MCU hadn't existed.
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>>573994550
I was holding onto this same pic in case the discussion came back around, but hell, have another.
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>>574007638
You don't get movies like Chronicle anymore that are just an original story about a bunch of kids up against world ending stakes because they would have to staple a nostalgic IP onto it to compete with Marvel.
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>>574007508
Yeah it was cool. The characters all had their own lives and met up by circumstance or personal motivations.
Now everything has to be TMNT superhero avengers squads. It's lame.
Even the avengers had the characters have their own lives so idgi.
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>>574008059
>Now everything has to be TMNT superhero avengers squads. It's lame.
when IDW started I was really hoping this would be the end of it but then it went into overdrive
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>>574007954
All of these are preferable to everything else every suggested or shown desu.
Bloomers are too formal imo. Yogapants clash with the outfit.

Any of these would do just fine.
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they really made us watch boomnic, movienic, idwnic, and primenic all learn the heckin power of team work four fucking times
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>>574007000
The only thing that ever implied CD took place after 3&K were the classic-style Archie issues headed by, you guess it, Ian Flynn. Ken Balough was misquoted and meant that Sonic CD took place at some unclear point before Sonic 4.
>>574007320
The PC port came out the following year or so and went with the original European English version of the manual where it's Amy like the Japanese version, because at that point Amy appeared in a few spinoffs and SoA knew they couldn't keep getting away with it. (I do wonder, if social-media and its personalities were a thing back then, if we'd have an Evan Stanley figure who'd try to go "ackshually Sally is her nickname and nothing changed between regions" to satisfy some stupid headcanon.)
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>>574006193
>Egyptian Silver
Cool and ironic.
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>>574006967
If you consider bumblekast statements canon, reboot Archienic dated Sally and then she eventually dumped him because windshit
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>>574008663
>the girl has to br the one that dumps thr guy
Okay Ian
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>>574008325
I've seen some people consider covering not just down to her knees with the black but her entire legs. And no one seems too concerned with the fact that the petticoat has gone missing entirely. What bothers me most is everyone's so fixated on her panties not being visible that they'll accept any slop, but it's really not that hard to make something that doesn't look like shit. Every artist that has tried has come up with something better and they're STILL getting shit from the same "why are you looking up her skirt" people in the peanut gallery. But it's really obvious who that type is at this point.
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>>574008663
Notice how he had to say this in bumblekast because soj already told him to fuckign quit it with sonally
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>>573994101
>Amy loving Sonic îs bad because it's heteronormative
You already know the kind of people you're dealing with when you hear that. Same people in picrel. Bunch of posers and fake fans who only care about political activism. They can go back to their Steven Universe safe spaces
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>>574008663
>If you consider bumblekast statements canon,
nah.
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>>574008847
Yeah its such massive projection. The people that insisted on it to begin eith are the ones that were doing it in the first place. No one else cared.
Really I think people that defend it do so because thry see hoe much it sticks out as part of the appeal because it validates a headcanon and is virtue signal-y.

At this point I don't care about defending pastu. I just want it to not look terrible.
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>>574008485
>The PC port came out the following year or so and went with the original European English version of the manual where it's Amy like the Japanese version, because at that point Amy appeared in a few spinoffs and SoA knew they couldn't keep getting away with it.
That explains why I had no idea that ever happened, because I had the PC version since I didn't have a Sega CD.
>(I do wonder, if social-media and its personalities were a thing back then, if we'd have an Evan Stanley figure who'd try to go "ackshually Sally is her nickname and nothing changed between regions" to satisfy some stupid headcanon.)
Yes.
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>>574009042
This was a relatively recent addition, but in practice it just acts as a ToS that no one reads. Its there to cover his ass more than anything.
People are gonna take him at his word and he knows that.
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>>574008813
idk about Sonic but that's in character for Sally. She is the one who doesn't want to be stuck playing games with a manchild. Idk where this idea that Sally would ever accept gamenic would come from since she absolutely doesn't like that stuff. It makes sense that she would just dump reboot-nic.
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>>574009009
These are the same type of people who create this type of abomination and call it “cute”
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>>574009121
>At this point I don't care about defending pastu.
I feel like I'm running out of Amy to keep at this point. I'll defend what I can, but man, everyone out there that isn't an Amy fan is dead set on changing everything about her from her personality to her looks. It's stupid, but at this point I actually care about the panties (and petticoat) on the walking bean.
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>>574008485
>ackshually Sally is her nickname
Anon!! NOO!!!
Oh wait, this means Sally is deader than dead, LOL.
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>>574009292
I agree with you, but Ian established himself the notion of Sally being willing to wait for him.
So it doesnt track.
OG Sally moving on does whether shippers like it or not. But if Ian is gonna establish that she would wait, he cant then have her be the one to break it off.
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>>574009492
Fair point. Ian is the one who made that decision and rather than stick to it he flipped around and used the opposite reasoning to explain why Sonally isn't in the reboot.
It only seems to come up when people are annoyed at him anyways.
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>>574009009
I don't think it's necessary to change personality of passion or friendly or something to make Amy not be a crush on Sonic guy. Ian rolled the two together.
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>>574009492
Difference between Penders and Ian is that Penders clearly stuck to one Sally characterization and Ian switched it when Sonally had fallen out of favor
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>>https://tiermaker.com/create/all-sonic-female-characters-18884907
All females, rank em
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Chinamy
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>>574009358
I think lega theory applies here. People don't treat female leafs as characters, but as dolls and stand-in representation now.
She can't have her own character or a more defined motivation because that "gets in the way".
They dont like her so much as they are drawn to her by virtue of her being the lead female character, and have rigid ideas of what those "have" to be like.
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>>574009937
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>>574009473
>Ros-ie because Ian ruined Ros-y
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>>574009937
Chinamy 2
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Would Sally use the mandate of heaven or divine right
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>>574009837
Because Pender's goal was to write stories. Ian's goal was to establish Wikipedia facts for fandom discourse.
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>>574010098
Chinamy 3
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When the new Blade of Courage issue drops?
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>>574009307
"Art" made by ultraliberals always has an ugly look to it

>>574009734
Ian has always hated Amy and he's partly responsible for what's been happening to Amy in the English dubs
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>they all died in two panels because sonic told the most powerful eggman robot ever created to be free like the wind
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>>574010781
Archie makes a lot more sense when you think of it like a Sonic who is just bad at being the wind and every bad thing happens because he couldn't be the wind.
The Super Genesis Wave wouldn't have happened if Archienic was the wind.
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>>574007954
>>574008325
>>573994550
or
stop trying to cover her up in a burka
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>>574011047
New animation if it good
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>>574010781
How is this guy crying belts?
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>>574011168
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>>574009990
>lega
*lego
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>>574010262
Muslimmy
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>>574008847
Redditsexuality is real
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>>574010625
I don't think Ian has always hated Amy at all.
His attitude towards her is relatively recent. But what is true he that he didnt really understand her beyond a surface level.
One thing o give him credit for is understanding the fact Amy wanted to go on adventures with Sonic. This is something people don't seem to get and think she purely just chased after him to fuck him.
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>>574011561
Straight into the camps
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>>574011670
a true freedom fighter never discriminates
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>>574011778
Sorry, anon, that's what happens when you bring the Muslimmy to Chinamy.
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>>573965708
These are opinions.
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>>574011596
Since when has he hated the fact that Amy loves Sonic? When did it start?
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>>574011670
Why are you so racist? We Muslims from Pakistan can also share our love for Sonic
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Imagine being a chud in the most progressive franchise
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>>574006193
>Silver
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>>574011596
>>574012078
Ian didn't hate Amy until Sally was gone and Amy was all that was left. That's why he keeps trying to bring Sally back or get references to her shoved into IDW. And Amy's in the way of that. Sega keeps telling him no and he's assmad.
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>>574009473
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>>574012236
How is Sonic a progressive franchise?
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>>574012383
The last Pharaoh was a Roman guy called Maximinus Daza
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>>574012484
>That's why he keeps trying to bring Sally back or get references to her shoved into IDW.
Wait, was Ian responsible for this and the Knothole reference?
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>>574012723
Fighting against a technocratic fascist government as an ecosocialist revolt.
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>>574012860
I think that one was ABT, but Ian's been trying to weasel the Freedom Fighters back in for a while. Refresh my memory about the Knothole one.
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Would you fuck Sonic's son?
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>>574012484
I figured so. Which year did Ian's hatred of Amy begin? 2020? IDW began publication in 2018
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>>574012791
>guy
Avgvstvs!
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>>574012139
You're fine as long as you stay out of China. Learn from Muslimmy's mistake and you'll be safe.
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>>574012926
I would literally have gay buttsex with Malemy(the better superior Amy)
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>>574009887
Cool you gave every female mental illness
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>>574012923
>I think that one was ABT, but Ian's been trying to weasel the Freedom Fighters back in for a while.
Was when Ian alluded to them possibly coming back if he can use Spinball as a backdoor? Is that why Sega's been neglecting the 16-bit version in favor of the crummier 8-bit version? (They really do act like abuse-victims if true, I don't understand why any company could keep such liabilities around.)
>Refresh my memory about the Knothole one.
A variant cover for IDW 31 seems to show Knothole "police" mugshots.
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>>574013038
There's a growing population of Islamic people in China, silly chud
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https://litter.catbox.moe/pmvc0v.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/1vq1u7.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/elavgr.png
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>>574013682
I love badly drawn porn
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>>574013676
>calling someone a chud for referencing real events like China putting Muslims in camps
Do you even know what you're typing when you type it?
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>>574013682
>https://litter.catbox.moe/1vq1u7.png
that sonic x episode awakened my possession fetish desu
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>>574013958
What're you trying to say here?
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>>574013561
Oh, right, that one. Probably the art team again, but hard to say. I don't for sure know who made that call.
>Was when Ian alluded to them possibly coming back if he can use Spinball as a backdoor?
He's been trying any excuse he can think of for years and told people he'd keep trying.
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>>574013521
Sonic needs to leave that poor girl alone already
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>>574012906
More like a technocratic totalitarian government. Ultraliberals don't even know how to define fascism so they just use the word for any government that is authoritarian.
Sonic SatAm isn't canon and Sonic is not a socialist. He doesn't adhere to any political ideology. He only adheres to his own sense of justice
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>>574014094
Fuck's sake, retard, it was a joke because someone responded to Chinese Amy with Muslim Amy. "Straight to the camps." Keep up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps
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>>574014276
I don't keep up with boring chudly news like that, little chud.
Talk Sonic
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>>574013340
>AI
It's trash
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Tanabata
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>>574014608
I already gooned
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>>574014662
Feels rapey. He controlled her
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>>574012078
I actually think its a bias on his end. He felt obligated to break up Sally and Sonic so he is applying that same logic to Sonic and Amy. He doesnt understand that thr Love aspect and relentless pursuit aspects are meaningful elements of her character. He just sees it as "shipping elements", which is why he calls it a dangling carrot.
To him, if they arent gonna date and fuck then there isn't a point in thr idea that Amy likes him or that Sonic might or might not like her back.
He doesn't understand the idea of thematic character narratives. Only conflict and conflict resolution and fitting things into tropes.


>>574012484
I think youre being a bit paranoid. I do think there might be some salt there but I dont think it is some malicious agenda. I legit think he is just ignorant.
A lot of people seem characters having feelings for other characters as existing purely to set up a ship. That's never been the point of Amy's love for Sonic though.
Given things he has also said about "get out there and meet people" there is also just probably a distate for how Amy's oneitis kisses off shippers that dont ship Sonamy.
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And what are fascists are currently doing? Tearing down forests and attacking nations that are unaligned.
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We could have the next IDW chapter tomorrow, but we get a gay Godzilla collab instead because old boomers can't stop letting their past go away
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Would Sonic support John Locke like an American or be a Rousseau like a sophisticated Frenchman.
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>>574014767
The first time a Sonally fan got mad at Ian he said he hates shipping
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>>574014892
Sonic wouldn't support slaveowners.
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>>574012906
That's not what Sonic is at all. Or Eggman for the matter.
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Remember: Sally, Bunnie, Rotor and Muttski from Satam are Classic characters, and Sally and Bunnie from Rebootchie crossed over into the Modern divide! Also, Knothole Village exists! Maybe Antoine and Nicole do, too! All part of my grand master plan to tickle (Your) 'tisms with the REAL SUPER POWER of TECHNICALITIES!
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>>574014892
rousseau abandoned all his children while writing a treaty on how to raise them
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>>574014968
Rousseau said something about state of nature being better than industry's corruption. Sounds very Sonic to me.
But Locke thinks property is necessary for happiness which Sonic owns none of. But Sonic is individualist like a Lockean. There's no simple answer.
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>>574015146
But would Sonic support America's current wars against Palestine and Iran? Vietnam? Iraq? I don't think so.
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>>574014943
Yes, I imagine Ian doesnt liek Sonallyfags much either even if he is sympathetic to the ship.
In Ian's world prior to all this, i imagine he would have it that the characters would just date and break up and maybe date again indiscriminately for no reason than for its sake.

Shippers just treat the characters like dolls. Instead of smashing action figures together to make em fight, they smash em to make em kiss. And pesky things like personality and canon get in the way of that.
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>>574015249
I guess maybe Sonic would treat US like GUN if he was real. Sometimes enemy sometimes neutral sometimes ally.
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>>574014892
He would be neither. Philostans eho make their personality and morals just some old white euro writer and treat it as a personality are no better than LGBT people that put flags int heir bio with pronouns.
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>>574014767
>I do think there might be some salt there but I dont think it is some malicious agenda. I legit think he is just ignorant.
Don't fall for Ian's false humility. He's not being ignorant. Ian hates Amy because she's meant to be Sonic's love interest and not Sally.
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>>574014767
>I think youre being a bit paranoid.
You know what? That's fine. But until proven otherwise, that's what I choose to believe based on what I know. Because Ian's words and actions aren't doing anything to convince me otherwise.
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>>574015357
>Shippers just treat the characters like dolls. Instead of smashing action figures together to make em fight, they smash em to make em kiss. And pesky things like personality and canon get in the way of that.
This is the best metaphor for power scalers and shippers.
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>>574015146
>Rousseau said something about state of nature being better than industry's corruption. Sounds very Sonic to me.
You dont understand Sonic.
Sonic isn't a ludite yokel.

>>574015249
He wouldn't care. If he was in the area he would just help someone in trouble and stop people hurting people. He wouldn't take a political stance nor care to get ibto the weeds of that shit.
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>>574015146
>But Locke thinks property is necessary for happiness which Sonic owns none of.
Are you one of those "Sonic doesn't have a house" people? He has (had?) a plane, too. (I'm unclear if he did actually give it to Tails or if Tails just made his own and the Tornado is still out there somewhere collecting dust.
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>>574015485
Sonic wouldn't have a problem with LGBT people. A freedom fighter is accepting of all backgrounds.
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>>574015723
Sonic doesn't have a house
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what the fuck is this general about
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>>574015072
>>574014146
Would he be vain enough to want to canonize the complete failure that was Reboot Muttski?
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>>574015865
Sonic porn
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>>574015510
>Don't fall for Ian's false humility
I don't. He does a lot of shit while playing innocent. I dont think what he is doing with Amy ia different. I just dont think its what you are insisting it is. You're shiptard brain is taking over.

>>574015586
Fair enough. Just try to be balanced. Criticizing Ian is impossible even without people being uncharitable to him creating a precedent.

>>574015616
I try, lmao
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>>574015916
This was a horrifically stupid idea that only happened because Ian doesn't like the existence of wildlife in Sonic
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>>574015946
hell yeah
now post sally
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>>574015803
90s era art and Secret Rings say otherwise. Arguably Shuffle, too, if the Sonic Room is supposed to be his house.
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>>574015728
Sonic wouldn't care but he also wouldn't care that people don't like trannies either.
>freedom fi-
Why tho
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>>574016035
>b&w sketch slop
don't post this lazy shit
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>>574016035
*kills elias in front of her*
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>>574016127
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>>574016093
Because the freedom fighters are Sonic related?
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>>574016056
>90s era art and Secret Rings say otherwise.
90s era art was OoC. Naka points to it as examples of why Sonic was redesigned for modern.
>Secret Rings.
There is literally no evidence that it is his house he is at as opposed to him crashing someplace
I dont know why people started assuming it is his house. Some youtuber opinion?
Archiefag headcanon?

>Shuffle
Literally in a dream world.

Sonic is a nomad. This has been shown in bios from the start.
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it is impressive that in sonic's 35 years his only politically sketchy thing (not counting archie) was assuming tails was gay in the manga and acting grossed out
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>>574016248
>Old-school trolling in 2026
Nostalgic.
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>>574016347
>Archiefag headcanon?
What does Archie have to do with anything? Especially Secret Rings? Why would the house he's reading and sleeping in not be his house? There's more evidence for it being his house than it not being his house.
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>>574016035
*Have sex with Elias in front of her*
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i have a house
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>>574016375
Benefit of the wind.
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>>574016418
>>574016491
fake and gay.
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>>574013561
>>574015916
>Nicole's only hope is as the season-1 handheld computer device version that had no personality and can't be called a "character"
>Antoine is replaced by goddamn MUTTSKI because French humor is now..le raciste!
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>>574016831
Tell me he jobs the next panel
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>>574016491
>Why would the house he's reading and sleeping in not be his house?
Because Sonic is a nomad. This is an established trait. Why would you choose to ignore an established trait and assume its wrong and insist he actually does have a house instead? It comes off as agendapushing.
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>>574016226
Much better
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>>574009009
>I think Amy should be her own character
Same type of people who cry about female characters not having any "agency". Like I give a shit if MJ has her own life outside of Spider-Man. I'm here for Spider-Man, not her. They let politics dominate their brains. It's retarded.
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Ian once said he wouldn't want to do a satam reboot since he legally can't use Ben Hurst's plans as they were posted on line and if he deviated from those plans it would feel like he's misrepresenting the vision
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>>574016375
Wait what
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Who the fuck likes Antoine?
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>>574015969
>Calling me a shiptard
Ian is an ultraliberal male feminist and hates that Amy is girly and straight. His own wife didn't even take his surname. And I'm not going to apologize for liking Sonamy since Amy's biggest character trait has always been her love for Sonic and because Sonic X and other stuff that happens to be part of the canon clearly indicates that Sonic does like Amy back.
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>>574017147
Amy was already her own character. I think americans and women think if the girl isn't ordering the guy around, she is becoming less of her own person, and I dont get it.
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>>574016831
Archie Ray is the single biggest twink in the franchise and that’s saying something
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>>574017061
There's no reason he can't spend most of his time wandering and still have a house. Those are not mutually exclusive things.
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>>574017195
>Ian is an ultraliberal male feminist
Yes
>and hates that Amy is girly and straight.
Kind of
>And I'm not going to apologize for liking Sonamy since Amy's biggest character trait has always been her love for Sonic and because Sonic X and other stuff that happens to be part of the canon clearly indicates that Sonic does like Amy back.
Okay but none of that is relevant to the conversation.
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What was the last good Sonic game?
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>>574016418
Shut the fuck up, SoAnigger.
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>>574017350
Would you like Ray if he s-stutters
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>>574017376
Except it has been stated outright he doesnt have a house. That's why I use the word nomad. He doesn't have a fixed place he calls home.
Its been stated explicitly.
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The SoAfags have wires all over my place listening to all my conversations and they have told me they want to get rid of Sonamy and Shadria AHHHHHHH
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I have no idea what happened to Sega and Sonic Team hiring writers who understands Sonic's storytelling.

They did it with Yoshimura who was working with TMS before for 06 and Unleashed, they did it with Yuuki Imada whos style matches Sonic's vision and that is why both his mangas have that "Sonic" feeeling.

but for games they hire some nonames since 2010
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>>574017010
>Antoine is replaced by goddamn MUTTSKI because French humor is now..le raciste!
He's replaced by Muttski because he wasn't in Spinball.
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>>574017453
generations was the peak
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>>574017541
>Except it has been stated outright he doesnt have a house.
Yeah, in a TailsTube by Amy who says she "thinks" he doesn't have one, written by Ian "I don't know the lore so just rewrite the Wiki" Flynn.
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>>574017147
They just say they want Amy to her own character because they hate her girliness and the fact that she's straight and they want her gone in order to make way for their abomination of a ship, Sonadow.
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>>574017195
>His own wife didn't even take his surname
And won't give him any kids. Even Penders has kids.
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>>574017649
>Yeah, in a TailsTube
No anon, its been a thing stated since the 90s by Sonic Team. Its not a new thing.
>by Amy who says she "thinks" he doesn't have one, written by Ian "I don't know the lore so just rewrite the Wiki" Flynn.
If it were up to Ian, Sonic would have a home and parents that he runs into regularly.
He has said this himself.
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Ben Muttski
WG
Infinite
Slinger

Espio
Barry
Elias
Antoine
Geoffrey
Lightning Lynx
Larry Lynx
Bill
Duo
Starline
Rough
Tumble
Manic
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>>574017849
>No anon, its been a thing stated since the 90s by Sonic Team. Its not a new thing.
90s source on Sonic not owning a house. Now. Not being nomadic, specifically not owning a house.
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If Sonic didn't have parents or a house in Archie, where would he live? A hotel? Crashing at Tails'? Wasn't he living eith Sonic's family?
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>>574017998
>where would he live
get out
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>>574017640
The cowardly french role is retarded and not even accurate..
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>>574017649
>Sonic "I invited every girl to my house except Amy" Hedgehog!
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I really have no idea why they still hire american writers. Isn't it easy for them to hire japanese writer who has y'know same language?
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>>574018234
Because SoA lives on spite and takes glee in sabotaging SoJ. Remember the 32x?
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>>574017597
The problem is that Sonic Team ordered Ken Pontac and Warren Graff to write the dialogue of Colors, Generations, Lost World, and Forces as wacky and silly instead of in-character. Sonic Team is still making this stupid decision to make the English and Japanese dialogue very different to this very day and despite communication being easier, I believe Sonic Team is still making such a stupid decision because the lore team (the censorship committee) tells Sonic Team this is what the fans want even though it's not true
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Will we ever have a single thread that's not all about repeating the SAME YEARS LONG TALKING POINTS
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>>574017930
https://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/06/10/more-burning-questions-about-the-sonic-the-hedgehog-franchise-answered.aspx?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Here is the interview by Iizuka from like half the franchise ago.
Im currently looking for the promo material by Naka and Oshima where Sonic states he doesnt have one. Will be with you shortly.
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>>574018172
Is French surrendering in major wars why that coward French stereotype is there
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americans be like how does goku fuck chichi without destroying her pelvis
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>>574018234
>I really have no idea why they still hire american writers.
Because 90sboomers said so after 06. Also since Sonic is more popular here than Japan, they wanna animate the cutscenes based on english dialogue.
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>>574017769
That's because Ian Flynn probably thinks that a woman having kids is sexist, misogynistic, and patriarchal
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>>574018421
Legitimate concern during the Cell Saga Super Saiyan training. They kept breaking shit.
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>utm_source=chatgpt.com
Why dude.
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we are balling tonight
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>>574018515
Sonic would be popular in japan if it was made with Japanese culture in mind. But Amerimongrel Sonic is all about being loud, obnoxious and in your face.
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I am ruining Sonic on purpose because it is the American way
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Besties botting and spamming on threads? Water is wet!
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>>574018754
Care to point it out?
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>>574018754
Water is not wet, it makes things wet
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>>574018356
>chatgpt
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>>574018354
That's what a general, heh, GENERALLY does to justify itself, TOURIST!
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>>574018880
If one water molecule touches another, are they both wet? In that case, is water only not wet if it's a single isolated molecule?
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>>574018354
Autists dont know how not to. Either rhat or they are literal bots.
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>>574019021
No because two water molecules is still just one water touching itself
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It was said on japanese anniversary stream that there was a fan of Mephiles in the dev. team who showed the lines to Toyoda, he liked it and they decided to include them in the Shadow Generations.
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The results btw.
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>>574013561
>Ian Flynn is actually obstructing videogames preservation.
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>>574018893
Yes it was faster to search for it that way.

Also https://ultimatepopculture.fandom.com/wiki/Christmas_Island_(Sonic_the_Hedgehog)?utm_source=chatgpt.com
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>>574018640
Me pressed between them while they both kiss and rub against my cock.
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>>574019167
>>574018356
saaaaaaaaaarrr
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>>574019139
Just for that one guy at the bottom, I'm gonna jerk off to Cream today.
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>>574019139
i am confused at this question. csam? hurting real children? i am lost
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>>574019139
What the fuck happens on this general that you're accusing each other of actual crimes
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SONURJ
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>>574019139
>The results btw.
I completely missed this btw!
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Imo one of the reasons why americans write such a shitty Sonic is because I don't wanna fuck him.

Japanese Sonic is so attractive and cool
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>>574019139
I fap to shota daily, not just Sonic
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>>574019612
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>>574018698
>Sonic would be popular in japan if it was made with Japanese culture in mind.
It was. Sonic's lack of popularity compared to America is purely circumstantial.
Sonic's main releases in Japan missed thr cut off points where they would have made the same splash they did stateside.
The genesis being bundled with Sonic 1 and 3 and releasing before the Super Nintendo did a lot to push it, as well as the aggressive marketing and multimedia push.
Its something that worked with Pokemon as well.

Sonic in Japan came out constantly being overshadowed by big hitters like Final Fantasy and such.

Once the series went 3D, the series then neglected the Japanese market due to focusing more on the western market since they were cleaning up the brand confusion that was going on here.

The idea Sonic is "too american" for the japanese isn't supported by anything real. Its just a thing people meme. If anything, Sonic being so inherently Japanese is why we are in this mess right now since people keep trying to judge it by low-end western cartoon conventions.
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Cosmo's sexy, bipolar dad.
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>>574019139
>I was the only person that said no but I want it to stop
Lol
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pussies
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>>574011227
how to make an living somehow
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>>573991678
>Stop making Sonic think too much
correct, his becoming aware
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>>573972362
not even in your most delusional fantasies would that happen


>>573973105
the only reason why jax wasn’t beaten to death, because it has no effect within the circus, can be fun to do
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>>573965708
>She molded him into a second Sonic through grooming.
Mina, the Wind scholaress
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>>573972389
Should've got the right
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>>573973659
Remember two flickies?
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>>573984867
Tangle W
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>>573984497
You'll get lamer Egg Bosses instead
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>>573994817
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>>573994901
Blast killed the Game Gear but the Saturn port of 3D Blast is the reason why Adventure met any success in Japan (due to the Project Sonic 97 initiative)
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>>573995426
Sonic Blast was a halfassed attempt to emulate Donkey Kong
Sonic Mars/Xtreme destroyed SoA's reputation on western game projects, now they're all gacha shit, greenlighting cartoons, or selling, on their knees, to Iizuka on something again like with Lost World and Mania



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