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I'm too fucking stupid to be good at anything
>>574073532Sybau
Don't care for the Relic Blade do I.
>>574073597We don't have long coat psykers either. It always cuts off around the waist or there's some small flap that extends to the knees
>>574074042Like...dot dot dot...
>>574074042WITNESS YOUR DOOOOOOM
>>574074306>we will never be as cool as Witness Your Doom pysker
>>574074495There's still a chance we could get a fourth voice for the psyker that's done by michael dobson. Believe!
So how often does Fatshark do balance patches and tweaks
>>5740747713 times a year
>>574074771large balance patches, about once or twice a year, Generally one in the fall to invigorate the winter sales.
I am tired of mauls. Need 2H great weapons.
>>574076040Zealot gets a double-bit power axe in September
Flame psykers, is there a legitimate reason for one of you to spend 80% of your time spamming the light attack puff? I was under the impression that it could occasionally be useful as a quick ranged stagger but that you wanted to use the channeled flame to actually do your fucking damage? A psyker that I was with was constantly doing that against even individual poxwalkers that I personally think that he should have just stabbed with his sword.Am I missing something or was he just retarded? He picked up a grim too.
>>574076040give me the mauler's chain halberd, whatever it's calledactually don't all the chain weapons suck ass
>>574076491Some things will die long before you get any significant amount of blaze stacks on them so the puffs are just there for stagger to keep the team safe
>>574076491The Puffs are for when the enemy is coming in and you can't afford the charge up and just need to simply not fucking die.
>>574076491I should add, probably because the flame staff is STILL a staff, so it's zero ammo wasted in just a simple puff vs hitting 'em with a sword. Tho either or is inconsequential.
True Grit?More like True Shit!
What's the optimal way to micro Arbitrator's dog?Tell it to kill every special but otherwise leave it to its own devices?
>>574077949You use the dog whistle mod>cheatsIt's the only real viable way for it. Otherwise you are just better off leaving the dog to its own devices.
>>574076174The axes are for ogryn.
>>574077949Specials normally get focus fired by the team a bit too fast. I find them more useful as a way to take a rager/mauler out of the fight or pick off gunners. Especially if you can have it dive into the middle of a patrol and explode with the dog bomb.
>>574077949in my experience focusing it is way too slowI see it as a nice bonus in the background
>>574077195>>574077042I don't think I had enough information. This was damnation ambient poxwalkers. He just would puff everything like a smigger would smig everything.
>>574078192Zealot gets a big I symbol to smash people with in October
Assuming I'm not using the mod, is it worth taking Unleashed Brutality or Go Get 'Em talents to change dog behaviour?>>574078097Okay, what settings do I use with the mod?Default, where it commands it to attack everything?>>574078316>>574078336thanks.>>574078192They are human sized.Ogryn gets 2-handed hammer. Fatshark commissioned these models from RedHot back in 2021. Don't start getting your hopes up that they will be in the game any time soon.
>>574078486>>574078486>Fatshark commissioned these models from RedHot back in 2021. Don't start getting your hopes up that they will be in the game any time soon.That long?They've been cut.
>>574078486>Ogryn gets 2-handed hammerI would laugh if zealot got brutally hammermogged on top of everything else
>>574078610>>574078831
>>574078407I guess because he can and it's just poxwalkers? I don't see your core issue.
>>574078486>is it worth taking Unleashed Brutality or Go Get 'Em talents to change dog behaviour?I'm kind of a newfag to arbites but I've been playing it nonstop all week. Here's my opinion:In general terms I don't think that the dog is particularly good at killing specials/elites. Every now and then it's useful in situations where you can't maintain line of sight to the target. Like a bomber running the fuck away after tossing a grenade or if some machinegunners have your team pinned down and the best that you can do is hunker down behind some cover while telling him to pick off some targets. I do find the dog to be relatively useful as a targeted CC vs stuff like ragers/maulers. With the "serrated maul" talent I like using the dog as a source of brittleness vs monsters too."Go-get-him" biasing the dog to hunt shooters is nice when your team isn't that well suited to deal with shooters. It also helps bias the dog towards hunting squishy targets, which can help with uptime on the "canine morale" talent (+20% TDR and 10% toughness over 5s after a dog kill). I've been getting ~50% uptime on that buff with him hunting squishy shooters, although disclaimer that I'm still leveling arbites and I've just been playing on damnation. From what I've read, if your team is a well oiled machine then you can save the talent and spend it elsewhere.
>>574079164It's hard to see and hear when there are flames constantly in your face and "WHOOOSH WHOOOSH WHOOSH WHOOOSH WHOOSH" in your ear. I consider blindly spammed puffs to be an overall downgrade to a squad's defensive stance.
>>574079604bit autistic but I mean maybe just don't be near the guy? Or just ignore it?
>>574078192>>574078486I just made up the claim that we get axes. I didn't know there were axes.
>>574078486>They are human sized.They are not. The axe blades are way too thick and large in proportion to a human class.It's made for ogryn.
power and chain shivs for hive scum soon trust the plan
>shockystaffybrainbursty psyker>nothing dies for a hot 20 seconds>suddenly the killfeed is fullhehe
>>574080160
>>574080160Aren't power weapons meant to be thick so they don't fall apart from their tech gubbins?
>play ogryn how I like, didn't watch any guides or anything>protect my team when they need protecting>brawl with big guys when they need brawling>big hp, let my lil guys take heals>pretty rare I actually go below half hp on an auric anyway>very frequent thanks from team mates at the end of games>have funI love this game bros
The fuck does ranged finesse even do
>>574080426Not really.
>>574081306Weak point and crit damage
>leveling arbites on damnation>get paired with two vets who didn't get 100 melee kills between themI'm taking the ammo tins that I find. You're wasting them on poxtrash.
I really really really wish the chain weapons were better than they are. The heavy evis isn't bad, but you HAVE to lean into crit/cleave with it because Vangaurds exist now. But performance wise, whenever I use it I know I could be getting way more value out of the Relic Blade.
>>574081306It means weakspot and critical damage.
I'm trying a Revolver/Chainsword WS build and damn it's fun and relatively efficientShame about the chainsword just being a weaker version of the power sword though.
>>574081675I've played some space marine 2 and the chain weapon actually feels nice in that one.>durr they're marinesshut UP, nincompoop
Is packmaster the easiest boss now
>>574082268yeah, the only time he's a problem is when there's already like four other bosses on the screen because bringing in a swarm of dogs is just annoying.
>>574082124Unfortunately, the devs running Darktide 2 have made the game easier over time, and then to compensate have introduced more and more types of enemies that are armored and resistant to cleave without special conditions being met.And as you would guess it, a fuck ton of the weapon roster cannot navigate that problem effectively in higher havocs without leaning on brittleness, dot, or crit spam of some kind, which doesn't work at all for firearms due to ammo limitations, and barely works for the shittier melee options. That's why if you ever play Darktide, you'll always see people in Havoc/Auric Mal running the same weapons on their classes.
>>574082268He's much more threatening than a Plague Ogryn because of the electrocute effect he can apply that stops your dodges and stamina from regenerating.
>>574082268He isn't hard to fight alone even with his dogs. The biggest problems is that he has the speed and aggression of the twins (so always up your ass) with the pack of dogs, and he can see through invisibility. So good luck making space when he spawns in. Like >>574082519 said, I absolutely dread seeing that stupid fat fuck when we're already dealing with a captain and twins. It makes it a fucking nightmare to deal with and get breathing room.
>>574082557If you're fighting him in a swarm I'd agree but you can still dodge the packmaster attacks even when out of dodge charges. He's really fucking easy to 1v1 compared to the rest of the bosses he's just big and has a fat healthbar and turns any other bossfight into an annoying puzzle to be solved.
>>574082058One benefit the chainsword has there is you're not fucking around with a finicky block cancel every couple of swings.
>>574082541Darktide at launch was the best the game ever was in terms of gameplay and mission structure. Most weapons were usable and even good, and since enemy and armor spam wasn't as bad most weapons could keep up.Mind you, this is just about gameplay. The RNG slot machine systems were complete ass.
>>574083901You've got rose tinted glasses on.
any hive scum enjoyerswhat build do you usually use for high havocs? i keep getting molested by ranged
>>574083945It's the truth.
Got all the Hive Scum penances. First class I got them all on, guess i'll do arb next since he's almost done too.
>>574085069I have everything on Ogryn except for the 5000 heavy attack kills cause my only loadout with that keystone doesn't really need heavies that often
So what is next for Darktide?
>>5740867523 months from now we will get a small content addition, such as 1-2 weapons or 1 map or 1 new gamemode no one wants to be accompanied by some balance changes. Then, 3 months after that we will get a new paid DLC.Repeat until the game is no longer profitable enough to justify keeping the servers on.
>>574086752Ogryn power axes.
>>574086752
>>574086752Crusade mode, which is vermintide chaos wastes mode except we keep our weapon's and weapon blessings because this game's weapon/blessing balance is to dogshit for it to function with random weapons and random blessings. Additionally we'll get sisters of battle with a jump-jet ability that functionally makes her similar to vermintide's slayer career.
>>574086878They should be making 1 new mission every update.
>>574086990>Additionally we'll get sisters of battle with a jump-jet abilityNever happening.
I think Zealot sucks!
>>574087093It can easily happen. It's just a thematic dash.
>>574087014Keep in mind that you can't expect swedes to work on days when the weather is too bad. They can't get anything done when it's so dreary out. You also can't expect them to work on days when the weather is too good. They can't let such a wonderful day go to waste after all. The weather needs to be just right in that goldilocks zone for work to get done. But obviously not if those mild weather days are part of their quarter-annual vacation windows.
>>574087169It's still never happening.
>>574076668We were supposed to. t. Knower
Next class is Ogwymen and it's the same VAs. Doing like the Monty Python skits where they have a dress and wig on and talk in a slightly shrill grandma voice.
>>574086752New class in october, possibly a fourth game mode by then, balance changes, but not the ones we want, the Vanguard question continuing to go unanswered.
>>574087152who made this
>>574080582People give Ogryn players too much grace, it's why fucking faggots like Hank were able to keep the class a pile of dog shit for nearly two years. Fuck.
>>574081654>be vet>run ranged build>shoot things because it's faster and safer and also procs your talents>hoes mad
>>574086885Read you loud and clear, chief, an ogryn nerf coming right up.
>>574083901TRVKE. I'd go back to the old levels of balance in a heartbeat if it wouldn't cause nightmarish, endless bitching from the tryhards.
>>574087669Good news anon, you can go back to the old levels of balance by dropping the difficulty
>>574087753Old damnation was harder than modern H40.
>>574083546On a scale from 1 to literally unplayable any autism dance that needs to be performed to do a functional combo is literally unplayable>block cancelUnplayable>sprintblock cancelUnplayable>blockpush attack cancelUnplayable>weapon special spam before every clickUnplayable>light into heavy or heavy into light comboUnplayableThis is why the shivs are a good weapon>lmb does one thing>rmb does a second thing>block attack does a third thing>special does a fourth thingAt no point do they intercept, you just press the button you need at a given time and the game does it
>>574087753That will somehow undo the powercreep how? Crushers used to be terrifying even on Damnation, now they're a joke unless you explicitly use ranged weapons which can't hurt carapace and melee weapons that do really terrible damage. And all that will do is make it annoying to kill one enemy type, not restore how dangerous it was fighting them.
>>574088197This is why I like combat axe and pickaxe.You just light or heavy attack spam and special is an interrupt/stagger or something.
>>574088210>Crushers used to be terrifying even on Damnationmust have been a non ogryn thing, they were food for my shovel.
I MISS MY WIFE
>>574088942Hadron is MY wife, back off!
>>574087169Would probably be a mini double jump
>>574088521We're talking before shovels, man. The meta weapon for Ogryn at the time was the Bully Club because of Haymaker proccing on Ogryn enemies until Fatshark corrected that after a few months. Once they did that, it was still the Mk. 3 Cleaver for a very long time. Then it went back to the Bully Club because of the ability to stunlock bosses. Then it went to the Latrine Shovels for a short while because they could insta-kill a bunch of Ogryns (which was nerfed almost immediately), but even with the nerf they were still a very strong weapon into most everything. Then it was the Pickaxe. Then it was the Bully Club yet again. Now it's the Power Maul or Bully Club if you're feeling contrarian.
>>574089785There are way too many places you can reach with a double jump. I used to explore missions by standing in spots waiting for poxbursters to show up so i could use their explosion to boost me on top of otherwise unreachable areas
>>574089892The shield had gotten its buffs during the folding shovel period, so the shield and the shovels were the meta
>>574089892i'm talking about the og shovel, not the folding ones
>>574090102Okay, fair. I personally didn't use the Shield because it was so fucking boring to just do the exact same attack over and over and over. Not even the same chain of attacks, just the same animation thousands upon thousands of times per match. Utter lunacy.
>>574090129And it was never the meta. It was the Bully Club for the reason I just described, then the knife. I omitted the Shield because I hated it so much that I genuinely forgot about the time post stun-lock Bully Club nerf and post Latrine Shovel nerf, but before the Pickaxe that the Shield was best in slot.
I try to play other co-op games but none of them have the same difficulty level as the tide series. Playing Division 2 and this shit is putting me to sleep. Tried payday 2 and uninstalled because the gunplay was terrible. Even Helldivers 2 is resident sleeper. How Fatshark managed to make something so unique like this is pretty impressive honestly.
>>574090273>And it was never the metawell i still used it and it dominated crushers, staggered mutants and had a very comfortable horde clear attack pattern. Never liked the bully clubs much but overhead strike downs on a pack of crushers with the shovel never got old
>>574090273I really wish they would buff the GG melee damage back to what it was for a brief period. It killed crushers as fast as the mk1 bully club so it was perfect if you wanted to use the cleavers
>>574090318they gutted div 2 by adding the new rarity level. I used to have a lot of fun just farming in that game but going for the new item rarity and getting shit roll after shit roll after shit roll just killed it for me
>>574090424Ogryn, as you know, is not allowed to have nice things.
>>574090318because its pretty high octane, though its pretty artificial because it just spawns some plague zombie to stab you in the ass or spawning a million specials
>>574090318It's pretty much skyrim combat, but with the complexity it should have had, with warhammer skins draped over it.
wish the castigator subnode gave ammo back out of thin air, am still quickly running out of ammo with the shotgun
>>574090601>Boss Baby vibes
>>574090601>it's like skyrim but not at all
>>574088197>any autism dance that needs to be performed to do a functional combo is literally unplayableI don't think cancelling your attack string with the relic blade to open up an instant sprint stab is all that complicated, you might be brain damaged.
The Arc Rifle is almost Recon Las levels of brain dead into Auric. Unlike Recon Las, it continues to be useful in Havoc on top of being stronger.
>>574091993Skitty needs it
>>574091993Almost? The recon las is pretty bad against armor and even vet's brittleness meme node doesn't help because it takes too long to stack.>>574092049The average shitter needs it to do anything, not even crutch claw can save them.
>level 1200 vet>havoc 18 badge of shame>goes down 6 times
>>574092240What was his name?
>>574092297Idk something in slavrune I don't speak subhuman
>PBB>squat down+m2>don't even notice there's two maulers axing me questions because>mow down an army>mow down specials>burn even crushers to deathAmmo... rations...
Dorian mogs, and I'm not afraid to say it.
>>574092470I had a 6 second downtime between pbbs yesterday Dakka is so goated
>long-winded explanation of completely useless dogshit feature that benefits nobody and sucks ass and is a complete waste of a point even in builds that can utilize the stat>also [the only reason to pick the node]Sweden
>swing me pickaxe left>swing me pickaxe right>swing me pickaxe up>swing me pickaxe down>winTeam talking about "where's the ammo?" "I need healing"Can't even comprehend it mate. Have ya tried swinging a pickaxe?
>>574092093Yeah, but Recon just set shit on fire, which is completely viable into Auric to the point of just pressing W+M1. The Arc Rifle can very nearly do that, were it not for the fact that it has to reload unless you switch to melee and if you're doing that you aren't doing W+M1 anyway. Well... maybe. Depends, I guess. All I'm saying is that I played plenty of Aurics as vet with Recon Las where I wasn't even looking at the screen and just watched shit on Netflix because I have the maps memorized so looking at the screen isn't actually required for the purpose of just moving forward. Only time I'd break from this would be on something like Ascension Riser where pubbies get hard stuck at the trains.
>>574092627which weap
>>574092738I've done that too much, I just want to play TF2 every now and then
>>574092752MkVII twin linked with lucky bullet and bruiser
>>574092642What Skitarii gun would even benefit from this? Galvanic is a DMR. Arc doesn't benefit from headshots. Phosphor doesn't have spread. Who the fuck made this and why? Wait, I just remembered that a few of the devs really like the Braced Autogun, and we have access to it on Skitarii. I also hate Sweden.
>>574092819Maximum firepower* I mean, not lucky bullet
>>574092738
>>574092748>The Arc Rifle can very nearly do that, were it not for the fact that it has to reload unless you switch to meleeSorry to inform you but if you have to reload your arc rifle on something pretending to be an "arc rifle build", your build is bricked. Picrel is how you build it. Ofc you can also dump mobility, but sprint cancelling the reload animations saves even more time than plasma, and I almost exclusively do it between fights while the passive reload keeps me topped up during any other short breaks or forced melee engagements.>>574092845>What Skitarii gun would even benefit from this?Practically none from the accuracy, because all of the guns that actually want more accuracy, are bad on skitty. IAG is the best one, but that suffers more from horrendous recoil than it does from a lack of accuracy. Shredder probably benefits the most, but then you're using a fucking >shredderArc rifle and plasma gun benefit the most from the reduced movement penalty. Plasma gun doesn't usually care, and the splodey one only gets pulled out to either delete bosses or knock over a critical mass of armor that's about to rape you. Neither require expedient repositioning, dodging is very often more than enough, and the -50% penalty is barely felt. The arc rifle becomes a lot better while braced (pinpoint accurate, +1 jump) but the penalty reduction is so small compared to the already huge speed loss from not sprinting/transphobic blade sliding everywhere, that moving an extra meter every 5 seconds hardly matters.
>>574093339>Picrel is how you build it.i used to run it like that but the mag size from charmed reload was overkill for me. Ended up going for for pure damage instead. 40 zaps per mag is plenty to destroy most mixed hordes. Then auto reload does the rest.
>>574091168Oh shit its an armoured elite! I have to hit him with a heavy attack! Do I>hold down lmb and aim at head like a normal personor>rmb and then immediately stop blocking>shift to sprint>only then start holding down lmb to start heavy attack>aim at head while moving forward at sprint speedOr lets look at the m8 force greatsword block stab you have to use because your first heavy attack is DOG fucking SHIT>rmb to block>hold down lmb to small push>release rmb during second push animation>keep holding lmb as you now start your stab animationThe first attack you make is actually the 4th thing you do to START your heavy chain. And these are weapons that get punished with lower attack speed, run speed and dodges. It's a humiliation ritual for people who think big swords are cooler than knives, which enrages swedes because they have small penises and feel inadequate when they see someone enjoy handling a greatsword
>>574092991Sex with Junker Queen
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>574093861Are you using Dum Dum or Blaze Away?
>>574093987No anon, you can overhead -> overhead -> stab armored elites and bosses just fine, it does quite good damage. You just optimize a little bit more DPS out of it by sprint stabbing. The actual main advantage of the sprint stab is being a powerful opener between fights, and giving you a lot of space from the disengaging/reengaging U-bend you make, keeping you a lot more mobile while retaining good DPS. It's particularly nasty against monsters, and kinda rapes burgles.It definitely isn't rocket science, it's very easy to pull off, it's just not particularly intuitive.I completely agree that shit like ogryn slab shield or psyker weapon swap exploiting are fucking cancer, but the relic blade is not a problem lol
>>574093861>i used to run it like that but the mag size from charmed reload was overkill for me40 is close to perfect that Charmed Reload isn't necessary, and I'm pretty sure you really do get a lot more damage per ammo pickup from Dumdum, but that only works when things are going well.When I'm literally the only one doing anything and my 3 deadweights are too busy actively trying to end the run by blowing up a barrel or burster in my face, never having to reload beats ammo economy, and auric drowns you in ammo anyway. There have been too many scenarios where I just couldn't release the trigger, else some turbo tard would've instantly died to an overhead from the approaching ball of armor that not a single one of my retards can deal any damage to.I'm also pretty sure you just get plainly more DPS from not having to reload and just spamming away 50% of your ammo reserve before running dry, but that's pure conjecture, I haven't actually tested it.My generic noosy melee crit build just happens to use the stupid crit arc rifle build because it plugs in perfectly, has complete support, and is only missing an attack speed increase from an ability (I play without slotting one).
Y/N? I am still trying to fish for an ideal Transonic, but I am not sure which stats are supposed to be split. I know this isn't the magic number, but it's... not bad.
>>574094671What are you using? I could use a Noospheric build.
>>574094871cleave is the dump stat
>>574094671>you really do get a lot more damage per ammo pickup from Dumdum,I should also mention that, because it's auric, and auric is currently populated with retarded newfags that haven't learned to stick to a difficulty they can actually play, certain director seeds are also just hypersaturated with gunners on every balcony. Dumdum doesn't really do anything against faraway gunners; being the only one doing anything about gunners is part of the reason I dropped it.I dropped flak and carapace for a similar reason. It just deals enough damage to erase even armored auric hordes fast enough usually. I was lacking boss damage from giving up my plasma for arc rifle, so I just went with unyielding. The gun's unyielding damage is so much better than it deserves to be, and I think should be the first thing that gets nerfed.>>574094943Picrel with critmaxxed transphobic blades. 3 health curios with coherency toughness, gunner res and flamer res.It really is more of a melee build. I'm just not sure yet what secondary performs best. Arc rifle seems to do extremely well in auric at least, I haven't run enough havocs with it to confidently say anything about it other than that it's neat and that I prefer the new plasma so far.
>>57409487172 penetration would keep me up at night and give me slight erectile dysfunction. If crit bonus was 75, cleave was 72 with penetration 80, I would take it. You could test it yourself though to see what the difference is between 72 pen and 80.
>>574095142I don't know if that stat spread is possible. See pic related. I hit several "maybes" while rolling a million dockets.
>>574095087The Transphobics are like the Plasma where there's an ideal stat spread and not a true dump stat. You only do the dump stat because it's far more economical to pick a "least good" stat and live with it. If you have a bunch of money to burn, you start to gamba.
>>574095339cleave does nothing for youand if you just play the game, you should have more than enough to roll
>>574095089You like the new plasma? Why so? Even the most charitable commentary I've seen on it says it's okay at dealing with hordes (when you charge it since the lights are useless). I found one guy who isn't from the usual gaggle (some German) that made a rather long video about it where he likes the gun in concept but pretty firmly demonstrates why it's not ideal and needs a couple of changes.
>>574095420I play a few weeks every 6 months or so when they drop a new class because they don't drop anything else worth coming back to. When they begin to churn out maps regularly, give me a call.
>>574095547thats more than enough, you get like 20-30k every mission
>>574095613Cool. I'm not playing 8 hours a day, man.
>>574095637you dont even have to, 3 missions takes about an hour and nets you like 15 rolls
>>574094429You are entirely agreeing with me. The optimal way to use knives and shivs is to hold down rmb and do a heavy attack which is fast, straightforward and extremely mobile. The optimal way to use a relic blade is to do an autism dance because the weapon was made wrong on purpose and you're not supposed to have fun using itAnd on top of requiring more talents to compensate for its drawbacks, on top of being slower, on top of having to juggle inputs, on top of having a lower crit chance, on top of the weapon needing to be turned on to hit armour it still does not hit for a bigger number than knives and shivs because fartshart hates you for using it
playing poxclick when i should be working mouahahahahsurely i won't get fired
>>574091993>unlike recon it continues to be strong>in havoc>>>>>>recon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one of vets best havoc guns is not strong in havocI understand its not the pistol or bore, but seriously nigger?
>>574095707>You are entirely agreeing with me>tangent of bullshit I don't agree withYeah whatever I don't want to have this conversation
>>574070709>That's what they already did with Total Warhammer FantasyIn all fairness there were factions in Fantasy they could have easily milked and didn't. Namely the Japanese one and dogs of war are the 2 that come to mind.
>>574095705Love that for you.
Ascension Riser is a SHIT map
>>574095473>Why so?It solves problems this build cannot otherwise solve.>no abilityNo claw to delete crushers, thin out hordes of elites, or kill bosses with.When too many enemies get too close in too tight of a formation that might get me cornered, pulling out the plasma and firing a charged shot tends to solve that problem through stagger alone. The 3 shots you get from cold usually suffice to kill a couple bulwarks, too. Normally an ability would solve this problem, but single charge default VE is fucking terrible, and I'm spending my capacitance on the noosy anyhow.Monsters take fucking nasty damage from picrel. I'm not yet 100% sure whether Power Blast is optimal compared to the guaranteed strength bonus from Blaze Away, I've just been testing it out because it was previously fucking useless so I might as well. Between +25% unyielding and the +25% monster damage node, they just get fucking chunked.As far as everything else is concerned, the skull is my main source of ranged damage and what I use the most to kill shit. I only occasionally spray primary shots into balls of gunners for suppression or the occasional lucky kill. The explosive charged shot tends to also knock over or otherwise suppress balconies of gunners, assuming they even survive.
>>574095951>>574095637Holy fuck you sound faggy
>>574095738Noooo Jean-Mohamerde! You already lost the world cup, you can't afford to lose your job!
>>574095269>>574094871Are you the kind of retard that rolls random grays on a level 1 character? Your odds of getting a dump stat scale with character level, they're astronomically small (or impossible?) at low levels. Don't bother before level 12-15.
>>574096692More like level 20+
>skin not in the gameWhat did they mean by this?
>>574096692>he thinks I am level 1 when I'm talking about specific mechanics that normies don't know Yeah.
>>574095828Yes you do, you agree that playing better using the relic blade is forcing yourself to do the autism dance while playing better with knives is just as easy and straightforward as using them normallyYou just don't have enough self-respect to recognize that working harder for less results is a negativeMay as well be a swede yourself
>>574096534aaaa merde! i vill nottuh afforduh le kebab!
>>574096963>I don't agree with you>yes you do agree with me!I knew I was talking to a fucking schizo retard. Glad we sorted that out before you had your inevitable melty from being disagreed with.
Loading into my first damnation match
>>574097401Felt barely any different than heresy but it was the train mission where you blitz through super quick so it barely counts I guess.
>>574095339No, the dump stat is cleave efficiency. The difference between 60 and 80 is minimal and can be more than made up for in cleave nodes.
>>574097934What makes damnation harder is the quality of your team mates (they will be much worse on average)
>>574098116>and can be more than made up for in cleave nodes.And cleave nodes barely do anything for them either, so you should skip those too.
>>574098201Yeah, the strikedown mode is the best mode for not farron greatsword
>enter into a match with three other skitties>all three of us running nooskulls>pinging everything left and right>skulls practically mow down every targetJesus
>>574098475STOP PING SPAMMING!!!!
>>574098527HAHA, PEW PEW, I LOVE MY NOOSKULL
>>574098321I do prefer the horizontal cleave mode, but I don't think it benefits from cleave increases. It cuts through havoc trash hordes extremely well without any cleave, and that's the only test I need to determine whether I need extra crit.The only time cleave becomes useful is if an armored enough elite absorbs most of my weapon's hitmass budget, but a lot of the time those elites are carapace (caps hitmass immediately) that want verticals anyhow. I think the only exceptions are like... scab shot/gunner squads where cleave might be useful? MIGHT. I haven't even tested it.The big exception where cleave is very strong, is power sword. Sunder over Rampage cut in half my attacks to kill an arbitrarily spawned clowncar of 10 maulers clipped into each other, attacking only their carapace heads. I believe I went from 19 swings to 10.This obviously ONLY matters when carapace is mixed into the horde, so Rampage is likely still better most of the time, especially in auric, but Sunder wins when you have 2-3 crushers and a half dozen maulers in your face.From pure feel alone, the infinite cleave blessing on the transphobic blades doesn't seem as useful, mostly because you can only ever shock/stun one target per hit, so the cleave becomes superfluous, and trades out an extra +16% crit chance that is infinitely more useful in slightly less dense scenarios where you have 1-2 crushers coming for you, and are now much safer because they're more likely to stun in the first 2 swings.>TL;DRMelee cleave bad unless infinite, then usable but only sometimes.
>>574090925>>574091163jej
>>574098740>to determine whether I need extra crit.extra cleave, rather.I was already thinking about crit because the transphobic blades are practically addicted to the stat. So much so that I run a +5% perk, which I think is useless dogshit on almost everything else. Just for the stun chance.
>>574098740Is the mech psword even fixed yet? I hear it's finesse or something doesn't work properly, so I've been avoiding it.
>>574098152>trapped in a net>someone right next to me>bomber coming>he runs away instead of pushing and lets the bomber suicide jump right on me while I'm still in the trapI don't understand why he did this...
>>574098841the stats arent really the problem with mechsword
>>574098841No clue, I toyed around with it for 5 minutes in the psykhanium and decided I would never want to use something this awkward on a class with poor stamina delay. Fatshark can give me a -0.25 stamina regen node, or blessing for the sword, and I'll use it. Until then they can shove their push attack meme combos up their asses.
>>574098841It's not fixed. People also really don't like the moveset, so they've sort of indicated they are thinking about potentially changing it slightly.
>>574098841>>574098908Right, I wasn't clear, sorry.I meant veteran's power sword in >>574098740 which exclusively makes powered attacks, and becomes very entertaining with permanent infinite cleave.I can't speak with authority on the skitty psword. I just know that I hate it enough to not want to use it, and wasn't able to replicate others' claims of it being powerful, but I fully concede that this may be a skill issue because I really don't care to theorycraft something I actively dislike.
>braindead? Check>cheating? Check>zooming ahead and leaving the team to deal with the spawns? Check>trapped and instantly alt+f4ing? Check>reconnecting and then dying on his own again? Check>havoc 40 gamer? CheckThese people are subhuman
>>574099128Its moveset looks like it wants to headpoke lots, so you'd use it like a dueling sword I guess, which runs very counter to the veteran psword which can sweep and do headpokes if you fiddle with the combos. Essentially being built for both criticals and weakspot kills to trigger capacitance generation, but since the moveset on the sonics is simpler to use, people use that.
>>574099337There's also a slight issue where critmaxxed transonics can blend through even dense hordes of armor and stunlock most things in a couple swings (and in havoc leaving only the colored enemies still moving). They tend to attack fast enough to get brittleness quickly and then just kill armor in a couple overheads to the face. I do really well with light spam, and supposedly heavy spam is even more powerful with that south southeast node.I really wasn't able to get close in performance with the skit psword, but again, that was 5 minutes of testing.I should give the arc maul a serious try in havoc, the flashbang push is pretty sick.
>>574099232>>havoc 40 gamer? CheckThis is the kind of faggot that was corpse dragged through a h40 game once and is currently at assignment rank 0 because he never touched the mode again. I'm surprised he's not proudly displaying his epic Havoc-Forged participation trophy.
>>5740764911. You are surrounded by melee enemies and try to break out, you need to stagger them2. You know the group is at max stacks and you keep staggering them and refreshing stacks. It's rare but it happens. Usually you want to spam secondary to keep the empathic evasion going though.>A psyker that I was with was constantly doing that against even individual poxwalkers that I personally think that he should have just stabbed with his sword.If he staggered it while moving past it then it's fine. If he tried to kill poxies with primary, then he's retarded.
>>574099593>This is the kind of faggot that was corpse dragged through a h40 game onceNo, it's the typical h40groid. They always do this in auric, reason being they don't care about auric. Auric is a meme gamemode for them, a joke.They just dick around in there for fun before going back to havoc and then actually trying.
>>574099842Yeah. Sorry.
>>574099842Uh oh ASS-let melty
>>574096878That's the default weapon skin though?If you mean the blue shit on the blades, it's just the weapon "aura" that coats the weapon so it can cut through anything.
>>574099842You would know this is not true if you played havoc yourself. Plenty of these faggots exist in all brackets, they slam their heads against a wall until they successfully get carried through the mission because they joined a gigacompetent premade or director fell asleep.If you installed current_havoc mod, you would see that he might not even have havoc 16 assignment that you get for clearing a maelstrom.
>>574097251You say the exact same thing I'm saying and then go nuh-uh, it's totally different we don't agree because then I'd have to admit forcing autism dances into movesets makes weapons less attractive to play and lose your elitist highground where performing 4 inputs for 1 hit is somehow a sign of being better at the game
Me and my bitch.
>>574100939Cute my skitty looks the same
is this the general where The Mound Omen of Chuthulu would be talked about?it is a first-person co-op game after all
>>574101972I don't know those, tell us about them, upload a webm.
>>574102073it's the next early access survival slop
>>574101972>priest holding a crossZealot is that you?
>>574102073It's a cop-up Horror game based on some ghostwritten Lovecraft story about a bunch of conquistadors looking for eldritch artefacts in the Chilean jungle (forest?)>>574102137It's not Early Access, but I guess that could mean it just going to be like Darktide, but I doubt Ace Team has Fatshark Tencent money to throw at this for years
Here's my totally unique skitussy what do you think
>>574102385>homophobic eyes>transphobic bladesbased
>>574102385Where is the bulge
>>574102385This is a feature, not a bug. Skitarii players are a special kind of autism, particularly if they are AdMech players or fans. It's sort of like that subset of Vet players who just want to be faceless grunts, except even more autistic and trans adjacent (drone and/or body modification fetish) but I repeat myself.
>>574103036Oh, and this is why you see basically no one using the Serberys stuff. There is no drive within the faction to play with cowboys. Honestly, the horses (dogs) get more attention, hell the fucking quad amputee gimp strapped into the chickens receives even more attention via GIWTWM posting than the actual cowboys do. People use them because we sort of have to (army has fuck all for units), but they don't like them. Just like the majority of players don't like Pteraxii or the Archeopter as models (forget about how easy they break and how expensive they are).
>>574103545kataphrons would be awesome
>>574099232>2137This single number actually tells you everything you need to know.
>>574103745I don't get it.
>>574103720Yup, it would be, but I genuinely can't imagine how they'd pull it off since Kataphrons are fucking big, not to mention being tracked. The biggest disappointment is the lack of rad weapons, because I can guarantee that you'd see a lot of people going full Vanguard larp if there were. It feels wrong to wear the Vanguard gear without rad stuff to go with it.
>>574099842I do this pretty often but I just accept the loser box penalty of shame instead of alt F4'ing. Nothing more gay than leaving the game desu.
>>574103941skitarii will have rad weapons in Darktide 2 :^)
UP IN DA CLUB!
>>574103941No rad weapons is so fucking disappointing, yeahWe get another shock maul, powersword that's bugged and a le funny garand that has a disappointing PING together with a bugged ADS and two blitz choices that don't work as they should.
>>574104374The Arc Maul is boring (yet enormously strong), but the class needed melee weapons and it is quite literally the only canon Skitarii melee weapon. The fact we got a power sword is probably because they negotiated with GW that the sword on the Skitarii Marshal model is a power sword even though it's not even recognized as being a weapon on its sheet. The Transphobic blades are an even bigger shock. Give them time to tweak the power sword like they said they are going to. The Galvanic is the Skitarii Ranger's signature ranged weapon, so that was always going to be a thing. And the Blitzes they know need a makeover. I normally not willing to give Fatshark the benefit of anything because it's loose promises of "Soon(tm)" but they flat out said that the Blitzes and the sword would be addressed in the patch when they got back. If the Sword's moveset is adjusted slightly and finesse applies, it'll be a good weapon. The Blitzes are the real problem because I can't figure out how they make them stronger without stepping all over the Psyker and the Arbites. Maybe they will, who knows. Fatshark tends to overcorrect. Also, I think the Galvanic is weirdly under appreciated at the moment since I've seen it used several times in H40. Extremely weird to me, but apparently it works. Let's see what they do first. Even if the other blitzes remain shit, we still have arguably the single strongest blitz in the entire game, and I can't imagine too many people will want to give up their little guys even if the other options are made significantly better.
>>574104245There's never going to be Darktide 2. Darktide 1 is going to be the studio's last game before the chinks carve the entire studio up and lay off the workers.
>>574105402Galvanic still works because it does fuck loads of damage on a crit headshot.Sadly the magazine and ammo reserve just suck ass.
>>574105458They are working on another game as we speak. It uses UE5 (what doesn't), and that's all we know.
>>574105458oh no, how will the employees know when theyre on holiday all the time
>>574105402>The Blitzes are the real problem because I can't figure out how they make them strongerI fear that they might kill everything that makes the noosy strong or interesting and just make it completely retard proof and useless.I hope they just fix the capacitance cost.If they also decrease it I'll kek.
These motherfuckers should be kissing my feet after everything I've donereject my ass
>>574105610It's for melee focused builds, imo -- for builds where your biggest use for ranged weapons is going to be swapping quickly to take out a special or some gunners.
>>574105610Yeah, it needs 50% more ammo (in both the mag and reserve) I am just surprised that it's being used in Havoc. You need a deletor of shit, the Phosphor is right there and it provides the unique brittleness debuff. I think it's a bit clunky, but clearly it works. Frankly, we made out like bandits. >most versatile skill tree>practically every weapon is viable on any difficulty, even if we want them to be better>two of the blitzes are terrible but no one actually cares because the third one is so damn strong and fun>all the abilities are neat >is good at quite literally everything if you want it to beThe only real weakness of the class is the lack of toughness nodes beyond the aura. Would have been utterly sickening if the Skitarii could stack toughness nodes.
>>574105402I mean I don't hate the galvanic I just find a lot of the design choices are dumb>big ass smoke cloud that obscures your vision and forces you to do a gay little dodge every time you shoot>the node that was clearly made for it in the talent tree (don't shoot for one second for a 10% damage boost) sucks ass>the PING that was literally the selling point in the trailer, and don't pretend it wasn't one of the things they used for marketing, sounds weak as fuck and is barely audible>the ADS shit which I am honestly not sure if it's intentional or not but probably isn'tThe "don't shoot for a second to get bonus damage" should apply to three shots and then an additional three shots afterwards when charged for two secondsalso the damage should be 15% -> 30% not 10% -> 20%I have no suggestions for the blitzes aside from just make them cost capacitance.
>>574105638>They are working on another game as we speak.They are not actually. Yes, I do know about the UE5 project they had, but in 2025 Jeficus interview Magnuson said they have no plans for other games currently at all. Jef specifically asked if there's going to be any warhammer games or games in general, Magnuson said "No."At best that UE5 project is on indefinite hiatus and on the backburner. (sign of developement hell which isn't a good sign)At worst they've silently cancelled it because they know they don't have the manpower or even potentially the know-how/technical knowledge to even make the game.
>>574105784They aren't worried about Noospheric. They don't even understand why it's strong. To them, it's just the dog. They might buff the Purgatus skull for all we know. Either way, the shield and grenade are getting some form of major buffs because they simply don't do shit. I imagine that their beta testers told them this over and over and they ignored that feedback.
>>574106229Mods would solve a lot of this except the node, obv
>>574105638Age of Sigmartide
>>574106229>>the PING that was literally the selling point in the trailer, and don't pretend it wasn't one of the things they used for marketing, sounds weak as fuck and is barely audibleI'm not even a big gun autist but the galvanic bothers me.It's clearly based on the Garand and they use an en bloc clip for it, but they use it as a fucking STRIPPER CLIP. The entire point of the en bloc is just you just shove it inside of the gun with the bullets and the iconic PING comes from when you fire the last shot out of the gun and it pulls the bolt open and it ejects the en bloc with it.Damn it.
>>574106342>They are not actually. Yes, I do know about the UE5 project they had, but in 2025 Jeficus interview Magnuson said they have no plans for other games currently at allThey are still hiring people for that unannounced project though
>>574106342If we are thinking of the same interview, that was the one Magnuson said they had ideas for dozens of classes, but now they are talking about there not being anymore classes after this next one. Fatshark never seems to know what the other hand is doing. They probably have shelved the UE game, but I can imagine this being due to their very bizarre resistance to opening a satellite office. Putting an office in Canada or America would solve a staggering number of their issues.
>>574106653Darktide: The Presequel...
>>574106651they literally should've just stolen the audio file payday 2 uses for their garand and it would've been better. Maybe add some weird filter to it because "oooh space metal sound weird"
>>574106653There it is. Exactly what I mean. Fatshark never knows what is going on internally. They are so mismanaged. 10cent should buy out the retarded managerial staff and start over.
>>574095935Nippon wouldn't have been easy to do because they do not have anything close to a comprehensive army and the limited army roster they have is decades old and was abandoned pretty much the moment it released.They did vampire coast because they actually had a passion for le quirky vampire pirates for some reason and GW gave the greenlight. They did 99% of that from the ground up on their own and said it was a nightmare needing to actually design what is effectively their own homebrew faction with GW standing over their shoulder and needing to approve every little fucking thing they did, they've said they don't want to do that again.They did cathay because GW had started pushing the new cathay model range for the old world and was quite insistent they put it in the total war game, so they really just needed to scan some GW minis and touch them up a little like with most of the other factions.GW does not give the slightest fuck about dogs of war or nippon right now and neither does creative assembly, they would also pretty much need an entirely new modern makeover to be put into the game, so those will remain absent likely forever.Whereas pretty much every major faction in 40k, even those as unpopular or insignificant as dark eldar or sisters of battle or tau, all have decently supported model ranges and a fair amount of backing from GW that makes it extremely unlikely any one of them won't appear in the total war game.
>installed the game less than a week ago>youtube gives me a video saying I suck at darktideThanks I'm not being spied on at all.
>>574107061>insignificant as dark eldar or sisters of battle or tauFuck you.
>>574106352>the shield and grenade are getting some form of major buffs because they simply don't do shit.I found the grenades rather strong when I used them. Would be my next choice if it didn't take away the skull. It's taking away the skull that makes me not use them, and they'd have to be as retarded as the RPG for me to even consider giving up the skull.The shield does give noobs invulnerability against gunners so I suspect it won't receive adequate buffs. I just wish it consumed capacitance instead of grenades. Imagine if it reflected projectiles lmao.The flame skull is good enough to be worth the grenade imo, but not good enough to be worth the skill point. They should really just massively buff it and make it mutually exclusive with the medicae skull. Maybe buff that a little. Reduce the overall charges both have, done.
>>574107297I'm not trying to be mean, one is just effectively a faction of edgy glorified pirates, one is the least popular major branch of the imperial armed forces, and one is the smallest static empire in the setting that gets to be a major faction.Dark eldar are one of my favorite naval factions visually, the edgiest guys having ships that are just made of knives amuses me to no end, and tau are one of my favorite ground factions visually and in gameplay.
>NUH UH I won't use the 4/4 med station>*dies*
>>574108441>sitting around 80% hp>teammates are around 40% and 60% hp>medstation with only one charge right before a drop>they both ignore it because they're hecking badasses that don't need any resources to play the game, okay???what causes this autism? I can understand ignoring it if you're above 90% hp and someones lower than you but if I'm at half health I just chug that shit I don't give a fuck.
>>574109525They're simply too nice. I see a lot of this, the entire team standing text to the medicae, everyone looking at each other waiting for someone else to take it. >you take it>no you take it>no sir, you take it>no no, i insist you take it
>>574109653>be zealot>non-full but non-zero health>see I have unused wounds>run past medicae
>>574098841Somehow the 2 stamina limit on the mechanicus power sword is even more incomperehensible than Expeditions. What are they doing at Fatshark?
>>574109861>everyone does this>medicae is left unused
I was once like you, anon...A small, fragile Zealot, full of hope and faith. I truly believed my teammates would deal with the snipers while I carved my way through the horde in melee.Months passed.Then more months.I kept calling for help that never came.Eventually, I realized the truth: every mission paired me with absolute, glue-eating retards.You still don't understand, anon.When I see a sniper now, I don't ping it. I don't wait. I don't expect anyone else to deal with it.I kill it myself.Because they won't.They never do.That's the first lesson every Zealot learns.You're alone.And the only person you can rely on to survive... is yourself.I guess what I'm trying to say is...DO.NOT.MESS.WITH.ME.There are two wolves inside me, and both are True Survivors.
>>574110486I promise you this was funnier in your head
>>574110590Spoken like a true Auric Storm Survivor.
>>574110486>reddit spacing
>>574110486
>gunlugger ogryn>is the most useless shit in the team
>>574110486>There are two wolves inside me, and both are True Survivors.All you should've said and it would've at least been funny rather than cringe.
>>574111749>lil bro still yappingtake the L and leave like a man lol fr
I spent my life savings on plasma guns and didn't get the stats I wanted...
>>574109653I don't think it's that a lot of the time. It's like everyone except the one guy is at 99% health.I think it's L4D players that are like "uhh no I shouldn't waste it".
>>574109653I just tell people to use the med station. Often just works and people don't complain.
>>574111593>psyker>instantly shits himself as soon as a poxwalker gets close>scum>runs out RPGs 2 minutes in and then dies>vet>uses all the ammo on the map to deal the lowest amount of damage>zealot>martyrdom build because he goes down twice every horde>arbitrator>does nothing but farm spawn doors and lag behind>skitarius>literally bought the game 3 days ago and should be in heresy at best
>>574112017>L4D playersIt's been 20 years anon, it's time to let go.
>>574112467It's an indirect way of saying russians
>>574111978now get back to work
>>574112535why would russians play a coop game? they hate coop and teamplay
>>574112954Because they play shit that runs on a toaster and has lots of mods. And 40k.
i have yet to touch havoc and i will continue to not touch it.i did not play a single weave either after playing one (1) match of its pre-release beta. Dogshit modes.
>>574108187Would it be outrageous for the medicae/flamer skulls to grant +4 blitz charges?>default artificer/nooskull has 0 blitz charges>take the medical skull, and you now have 4 charges>take flamer too. You now have 8 charges.
>>574114305imo that sounds OP
>>574114305I think 4 medicae skulls is already too much. I'd spend the point on +4 lol.
>>574107061>sisters of battle>unpopularPeople love bolter bitches. What they hate are DEI misters of battle.
>>574108187>>574114305Make flamer cost capacitance, stick to you and shoot at what you're looking at upon being deployed, and be mutually exclusive with noosy.
>>574114489>People love bolter bitchesCoomers and trannies love bolter bitches.90% of people don't care about them and never will.
>>574114613>trade noosy for a slightly shitty but still infinite cleave flamerHmm. I could see that maybe being useful in havoc but it'd be worthless in auric unless it has inexplicably high hit damage
>>574099232>zooming ahead and leaving the team to deal with the spawns? CheckWhy is this so common? It's happening in Auric and even Havoc now. People who do this are actually dogshit.
>>574114613>mutually exclusive with noosy.dead on arrival then
>>574114613>mutually exclusive with noosyYou took a niche piece of equipment and made it useless
>>574114713I genuinely can't find an explanation for it, because the mission doesn't end any quicker, and I don't see how trying to avoid fighting as much as possible is somehow more enjoyable in a game like this where fighting is the point of it. Maybe some kind of autism that more normal people simply can't understand?
>>574114727Maybe, but there's gotta be a cost to the benefit of costing just capacitance.>>574114702A lot of the power of noosy comes from being able to do multiple things at once. I think it's totally fair that the flamer is a bit worse when you can keep wailing on the horde at the same time.
>>574114884Why do you want a slow stacking slow acting DoT on the things you are actively blending? They'll barely take damage before you've cut them down.
>>574114971The dot only stacks slowly if the skull is spinning, does it not? That's why I said make it directional to where you're looking at.
>>574114884Make the flamer cost a full capacitance charge. You can probably throw it a cooldown timer on it too.
>>574115047You either overestimate how much damage fire deals, or play substantially lower damage output builds than I'm used to.
>>574114662Look at the average men in the background. Everyone loves bolter bitches.
>>574115173Cosplayers aren't real fans.
>>574115173I'm not familiar with the current state of sob, but from lurking /tg/ years ago I recall that the main reasons against people wanting to purchase/play sob were>ornate models that were difficult to paint>outdated/underpowered codex made them low tier
>>574115505No one cares about that /tg/ retardation, we want to them because they look cool.
>>574115479This isn't about the womeme, but the dudes' reaction to them
Fatshark's new game will be a 'tide game but Age of Sigmar and the Ubersreik Five survive.
>age of shitmar
>>574117132>Ubersreik Five surviveAs unplayable NPCs.
>>574114489They sell poorly and are liked almost exclusively because of a loud minority of gooners.You could probably count the number of people that think sisters are battle are a genuinely cool army on one hand.
>>574108441>last wound, 10% hp left, medicae marked 5 times, reminded in chat, retard still doesn't heal, diestired of malice behavior in my games
>>574117965Just let them die. Don't try to hold their hand, especially in auric.Retards need to learn.
Give arby more cosmetics already. I want a new weapon skin for the shield and the shotgun. I want an arby shotgun with a stock and long barrels
what is the point in martydom zealot? especially compared to v2 zealotv2 gameplan is lose all your hp to the first enemy then persist on temp hp for the rest of the game with all the buffs you get and the gimmick being you must keep that temp hp updarktide gameplan is to stay healthy? because i keep randomly getting plapped if i try to persist at 1hp but then why would i bother with martydom when i could pick the other keystones and have a buff that stays far more activeand i can also just take bleed for the emperor/restoring faith without going martydom either if i want a 'real' health stacking build
>>574118662It depends what you want to do with it. I use it to have extreme amounts of effective HP. And when shit hits the fan and I start taking damage, I do more damage. That's it. You don't have to run around at 1hp.
>>574118662You just need to be better at not taking shit. skill issue.
>>574118662i've never watched naruto, but this scene describes how i play martyrhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4ZIJfDY9qs
>>574074153Wow this one is super egregious
>>574118662Technically the point is to rely on Until Death + Holy Revenant pops.
Is the marksman's focus on Veteran just bad, I never see people taking it over the restIt doesn't even sound bad, although I'm not sure which guns would have synergy with it considering his selection
>>574119006>>574119338i guess, but that just leads into why not take the other keystones that are always active>>574119065everyone eats shit eventually and the wanting to stay low hp for buffs just leads to more eating shit
9 times out of 10, the one guy saving the entire team's asses and saving us are playing Ogryn. Small shoutout to the Arby doggy that has saved so many butts too.Honestly I might make and max an Ogryn simply because I want to join that group of people too
>>574119756It's just really fun way to play imo. It lets me send my zealot into dangerous situation, throw caution to the wind and take risks my teammates can't. I run into bursters to double push them away from the team. Don't worry about them blowing up on me. But if it's not your style then the other two keystones are good too. I think Inexorable Judgement is underrated.
>>574120017That's just his role thougheverbeit
>>574114662>implying anyone hates the army with the best looking models in the gameTau is the tranny faction because they're le good guy communists
>>574120631Tau is one of the least female centric factions in the setting. They're one of the worst ones to play if you wish you were a woman.
>>574120802Homie hasn't seen the art. Also their main leader is a girlboss and the most recent ethereal model is female too.
>>574073335Do you think one of the randomly generated Traitor Captain names being "Oriole" is a reference to quail heretics?
Tyranids are the good guys because they win
>>574121371Orkz is made for fightin and winnin
>>574120269ill try a couple games just playing normal instead of trying to stay 1hp then i guess, just seems so counter intuitive to my v2 knowledge
>>574119756>everyone eats shit eventuallyThat's why you can die once every 2 minutes for free. Also, most deaths have nothing to do with HP in my opinion. If you get surprised trapped in the middle of shit and people don't rescue you, having 20% hp or having 80% is honestly not going to make any difference.
>>574118662It gives you more toughness damage reduction than blazing piety, more attack speed and damage than inexorable judgment, massive amounts of corruption resistance if that's something you want, and it lets you leave all medicae and healing items to your teammates. And you don't typically play it at 1HP, you play it at ~25% HP since that still leaves you at max stacks. It's extremely powerful if you take less than 25% HP damage every 2 minutes, which isn't much of an issue for experienced players, especially with the huge buffs granted by martyrdom.
>>574121560bleed for the emperor and restoring faith for very funny durability
>>574121310Trannies are notorious for wanting to be represented by actually attractive and cute women, tau women are not that, tau women are some of the least attractive and least sexualized females in the setting.
>>574121942they have retconned them into being hot, bizzaro-woke demands it.
>>574121942Homie really hasn't seen it. Also trannies get the ick from the religious aspect, probably because it remind them of their fathers. Only anime nuns get them excited
>>574121942Dude, trannies are tranny-fying the skitarii
>>574121371But they job every time?
>>574122261It seems to me that you haven't.
vermintide equivalent to ogryn bully club?
>>574119756>everyone eats shit eventuallyAnd you have until death for that.If you can't keep yourself alive for 2 minutes then it is a skill issue.
>>574122893Cog hammer
>>574120631>>implying anyone hates the army with the best looking modelsThey don't hate, they just don't care about them.There is a reason why GW ignored sisters for like 20 years without giving them any model releases/updates. GW goes for where the money is, and sisters didn't make any.It's like Sisters of Silence, they are even more unpopular and even less people care about them. GW doesn't support them because no one buys them.
>>574119736it is excellent, and elevates a lot of Veteran's guns (especially with being able to combine the two rending talents). It offers better personal damage than Focus Target, but Focus Target is the meta in Havoc simply for the sheer volume of large targets where the team damage is important. I find Marksman's Focus better for Auric, there isn't enough large targets to justify Focus over the more consistent personal boost.Guns that get the most from Marksman,Vigilant Autoguns, notably the burst fire variantsInfantry Lasguns, boosts their headshot breakpoints to let them keep pace betterBolter as a sniper weapon. Gives it a more generous one-shot spread. Combat Shotguns, boosts their effective killing range. lets the zarona special shot start clearing out bruisers or boosting the agripinaa's slug shot against crushersAnd general damage boost for the other guns. Combined with Executioner's Stance the Agripinaa Infantry autogun can even start hitting a few key one-shot breakpoints
>>574122893dual hammers
>>574123975>marksman autoguns>BURST marksman autogunsdisgusting. its insane they never bothered to give them even a rudimentary scope.
>>574117132They'll pull a Gotrek sans Felix where someone major like Kruber is missing and it's complete dogshit because of it
>>574117132>>574125114they haven't said they are working on a new game tho
Not mine and also not a fan of posting scoreboards in here but I'm super confused. How did this ogryn manage to get 40? He was with us most of the time, I don't recall anything out of the ordinary.
>>574126481I was just too incoherent
>vet in poison cloud AND getting shot at by a gunner goes down while everyone else is busy dealing with a horde on the other side>I go back and rescue him>he runs over past where we were dealing with the horde and this time goes ahead of us while we're still dealing with it>gets jumped at by a dog>someone shoots the dog>he gets up and tries to just run through a rager with no hp and just immediately go down>disconnects
>>574127225*he
What stat spread should I be looking for on a combat blade? It's next on my list of weapons to farm up mastery on
>>574128136Mobility dumb if you're a normal person, damage dump if you're using it purely for speed.No, imaginary autistic damage spreads don't matter for 99% of weapons. Knife definitely isn't one of them.
>>574101972The demo was pretty neat and I appreciate that something like this got made so I'll probably buy it
>>574126481my only thought is that it counts 4 person coherency as a 100 score and 3 person as 66 score 2 person as 33 score?so on average he was always close to one player, seems retarded though so the scoreboard could just be wrong
>>574128295I think he joined later I just didn't notice. It was after >>574127391 quit. I only noticed when I went back to watch the replay.
Give ogryn heavy bolter.
>>574121942True but fan artists are drawing them as attractive now and that affects people’s perceptions too>>574122491True too
>>574128606sent :)
>>574096692NTA, but i did roll a dump stat twice in a roll when i started playing zealot, when i tried to do the same on psyker i wasted 800k gold just to get a staff with warp res at 61%, never try gambling kids
>>57412897661% just means you have 79.6% everywhere else and it rounded.
>>574122546Not *every* time… >>574110486This guys stuff is always so good and cute
>>574117132Haha wow you’re so funny man haven’t heard that one before>>574125793Even if they did that was likely a while ago there’s very little chance of it happening now
Why do some people act like they don't know removing a net from someone is far faster than reviving?
>>574129451just lemme clear out these three poxwalkers first bud, wouldn't want you taking damage when you stand up :)
>>574129451They don't know that you autoblock during pickups, so they don't know they can clear a path to you and then pick you up quick before your stamina goes from frontal attacks
>>574129451People are stupid.Also sometimes there's genuinely too much shit around you and it needs to be cleared to some degree first.
>>574106706> Putting an office in Canada or America would solve a staggering number of their issues.How so? Just curious
>>574107061>with GW standing over their shoulder and needing to approve every little fucking thing they did, they've said they don't want to do that again.I’ve heard before that GW went pretty easy on Fatshark’s adherence to the table top and even allowed them to invent stuff with Vermintide so I assumed the same would be the case here but I guess having to make all those new units is a different ball game. Shame that they found it so torturous because I would have loved to see them give their spin on some other Fantasy factions before moving onto the veritable breadbasket that’s about to be TW40k and forgetting everything else
>>574129912No three week vacations every four weeks mean you can get a lot more work done
Swedes are ugly (it's true!).Swedes are lazy.Swedes are incompetent.Swedes are evil.Swedes are smug!Swedes are stupid.Swedes do not deserve anything good to happen in their lives, ever, and I mean it.Do not give money to the swedes.Do not give attention to the swedes.Do not play swedish games.Do not believe swedish lies.Renounce the swedes, anons.Play a white man's game.
>>574101972>>574102297The set up is definitely original and the setting looks pretty neat. Characters look fun. I think I’ll look into it. Thanks.
>>574129451Sometimes you can get a dude up before he's even really down, sometimes it feels like the trapper is bugged and already about to shoot immediately, or there's a dog circling around, or the overhead that will kill the trapped guy will kill you too or whatever.
are the soulblaze skills worth taking if you don't use a purgatus staff?
>>574131853With open questions like that it's best to say what your intention is. With other staffs? Yes. In general? No.
What is up with stun grenade from zealot? Every time I use it just appears to do nothing.
>>574132914The smoke cloud it leaves is an illusion, it only stuns units it explodes near.
>>574132914It's easily blocked by any terrain
>push pox buster>he just falls back and doesn't explodeIs this intended?
>>574132325well to me it seems like the only way to proc it is the purgatus staff or that one force sword blessingit's basically only going to proc from perilous combustion but I also have extra points that I can't think to put anywhere else
>>574134331Nope, it's a bug that they have repeatedly fixed
Is the Vet's Revolver still good in Havoc for nuking elites and such? The sheer amount of elites and armored enemies you get in pre Havoc 40 is starting to make me doubt but I still like the gun. Speaking of, are there any guns that are just not viable that high up
>>574134592Yes the revolver is good in h40 and it works exactly that way, but it's really difficult to play and I wouldn't trust most vets to be able to pull this off and thus decline them.I've seen some WS builds do really well with it.
>>574129912>>574130067They also seem to have personnel issues. Putting an office in NA would give them a much larger pool of potential employees to recruit from.
I've successfully made myself start sliding everywhere so ranged enemies no longer have an easy time shooting me. Im not sure if im going down less because of that or because skiitari prints toughness en masse from tons of their abilities
>>574123975Huh, that's interesting to hear. Thanks for the explanation anon>Executioner StanceMan, I just don't know if I have it in me to drop the shout with how it saves my butt.
>>574135428Just remember that balls of gunners and reapers care not for the slip&slide
>>574135606that's funny because I remember a Sir Lord Tanner Lindbeige video where he slide dodges a ton of gunners in the psykhanium.
>>574134663Man, I need to see some actual builds for it considering just 5 shots in the chamber isn't enough without some proper reload speed nodes imo
>>5741357985 shots is more than enough to kill anything that moves.
Are psykers good at high levels if they're not smiggers? Seeing as they don't use ammo if using a staff and ammo is always at a premium there
>>574136224yes if they're good...
>>574135785Side/diagonal usually works but the one time you get clipped once and they turn you into a block of cheese
>>574136625or when a poxwalker's collision box spawns in right where you were dodge sliding, because he dropped in from a tiny crevice on the ceiling
>>574135798It's just whatever cookie cutter vet you want, with weapons specialist. Dueling sword + smokes gives you stupid amounts of safety, and both weapons scale exceptionally well with crit/finesse so there's huge synergy. The theory is simple and effective. It's actually playing it that's stressful.WS does the reloading for you.
do you think my nun is pretty :]
>>574137582No, Darktide characters generally aren't pretty, but I like the fun and sovlful roleplay name and title
>>574137582Many of the female face options look old due to the jowls around the mouth.
>>574137582she's not a formal nun, but she looks agreeable.
>>574137867The ugly old crackhead grandma face is perfect for fem agitator
>>574137867Life in the imperium ages you rapidly
9.932 out of 10 times I go down it's because of a trapper. I don't fucking know how to deal with this thing when everything is overlapping a lot of the time I don't even fucking see or hear the trapper until a millisecond before I'm in a net. Last few times I went down I saw the trapper just in time to press dodge in what felt like just a split second too late.
>>574138325keep going, it will become reflexive and you'll be able to dodge netters on demand with a very low margin of error
>>574137582the sisters would kill her instantly if they found out she was calling herself a nun honestly
>>574138325You develop a 6th sense for them eventually.The secret to dealing with trappers is to get them before you have to dodge. Guns with fast equip times and either enough damage to one-tap, or high enough stagger to immediately disable the trapper, are preferable. Noosyskull also staggers them real fast actually. If your problem is hitting a trapper behind enemies, you might be able to achieve it by adding ranged cleave. Combat shotgun on zealot and veteran really likes cleave increases, for example.
I do want Sisters of Butthole actually. Look at all the lewd posting going on in the other generals. We need that here.
>>574138574What makes the trapper net disappear mid flight, is it trapper death only or can it be a stagger?
>>574138970Dunno, never bothered to check. Probably both. But you ideally want to get the bitch before she even starts shooting.
>>574138970you can stagger a trapper to stop the net mid-flight
>>574101972I'm intrigued by it. Do I need friends to play it? I don't have friends to play friendslop with. Not enough to play a 4man squad. If I can play with Randoms then I might enjoy watching retards get fhtagned.
>>574130026CA was basically designing an entirely new potential model range with a ton of new lore accompanying for GW so GW made sure everything CA did passed the checks they would have made had GW redesigned vampire coast themselves.CA more or less signed up to make their own faction without knowing just how incredibly strict GW is about that stuff these days(somewhat justifiably from a couple past experiences) and they ended up just redesigning the faction GW wanted make but didn't actually want to put the man hours into doing themselves. And GW's contracts are watertight and their legal division is legion so CA would be absolutely fucked if they tried to push anything through that contradicted GW's vision.
I died at the start of an havoc match and im waiting to be rescued.
These cities are really big I wonder how many layers of this stacked on top of each other they have
What could I have done?
>>574140646Been an arbites with a dog.
>>574140646You pull out your gun and shoot them on the first panel.
>>574140610It can't be very many. You can recognize the same landmarks while traversing multiple different maps. Fatshark did a great job of demonstrating how hives are small close knit communities where everybody knows everyone's name.
>>574140535
>>574140646I like using the lower damage mark bolt pistol that does AOE damage. I don't use it unless I need, but it stagger locks the fuck of closely packed units in a pinch.
>>574140610I would expect the layers to be closer together there seems to be a lot of unnecessary space there
>yeah bro, you're added to the blocklist is this supposed to be a threat
>>574141187I think throneside is supposed to be one of the more affluent sections, so more space makes some sense
>>574140646be ogryn and fat enough to get netted the first time despite dodging
do crits work on the needle pistol?
>>574140610They're massive, typically 10-20 miles tall, so at least 2x taller than mount everest, while being about as wide in terms of covering ground. Picrel gives a decent approximation of how the interior of an overall hive might look, though none are the same>>574140919That's just because fatshark decided that each map would actually be part of a single district shared by other maps, featuring random overlapping elements. Why they did this when Vermintide did not, and a hive city covers far far far more space, I have no fucking clue. Could have just made the maps randomly generated like Warframe
>>574143384A critical will apply an additional stack of toxin.
>>574143464Looks cool but in all honesty it's hard to make sense of a lot of what's going on in this pic
Can you link me a good PBB build for Ogryn?
What is toughness replenishment +%? Does it add to all toughness replenishment?
>>574143896>yo man this hive city be like wack or sumn how u s'posed to find the dolla general?
>>574144286The passive replenishment from being in coherency
>>574144286I think Fatshark has cleaned up the outliers, so Toughness Replenishment is an increase to all sources of toughness generation.
>get hit by dog handler's stun baton once>dodges get disabled for 30 years
>>574143464They did it because they wanted to be lazy swedes who made fewer maps. Make one mission go in one direction, and then like in weaves have another mission go in reverse!
>>574143464>each map would actually be part of a single district shared by other maps, featuring random overlapping elements. Why they did this when Vermintide did not, and a hive city covers far far far more space, I have no fucking clue.its because its cheaper
>>574145287racing games do it and people love it.
>>574145362Racing games probably have more maps. They also aren't undermining efforts to make hive cities feel big by making them all feel like it's a small world.
>>574143464We really need more stuff focusing on under hives and the quests for lost archaeotech and the fight against all the creatures that live in them and hazardous conditions created by those above
>>574145230That happens?I'm not sure if I've ever gotten stunned by him despite him stabbing me with the stick.Maybe I'm lucky?I have faces him in havoc 40 and didn't notice much difference.
>>574077949It's somewhat niche but its definitely helped me not have to make sacrifices when 1v1ing a captain>Get split from the team>Need to 1v1 a boss>Need to block but also kill a trapperAlso targeting the center of a crusher pack for maximum zaap
>>574141187Hive cities aren't centrally planned, or really long term planned at all, in a way of maximizing population - that happens naturally. It's a city version of 'just one more lane, bro'Massive open spots exist like that in them, usually because a sector collapsed in a hivequake, had to be detonated in a chaos incursion, or terrorism, and then some noble family wanted to have more room to breathe less recycled air. Each hive is the product of thousands of years of events like this, building, expanding, collapsing, renewing. Entire economies will be built into picking through the stuff that falls from higher levels, the lower levels will be riding boats across rivers of toxic waste and using flamers to burn off the evolved creatures and mutated humans trying to snack on them99% of humans in 40k live in one of these btw
>>574080582Everyone who ever acted like this in-game in my experience needed all the healsNeeded all the ammo (never really used their gun right)And used their grenades and shit for no reasonOh and they were so fucking tryhard in the gay zone they would do retarded shit like waste healing stims on chafed teammates so they could feel good about themselves
>>574139723From reviews, it seems it's not a very solo-supporting game
>>574144948What compels a man to shitpost?
>>574147939Solo as in true solo, or solo playing with Randoms?
>>574147280>99 percentI would say more like 80-90 but yeah
>>574147280>had to be detonated in a chaos incursionThat can't be that common right?
>>574149370Nah, the population of full-on hive worlds is so huge every other planet can't keep up - and 85% of planets have a hive structure on them anywaySince the average non-hive world has a population that ranges from 100,000 (frontier worlds, death worlds, etc) to 10 billion (civilised worlds), the fact that Terra has a population in quadrillions means more people probably live on that alone than the rest of the non-hive worlds combined, let alone if you include the hive worlds
>>574149736I think it happens a lot but remember for every story of a hive city having an incursion or straight up falling to chaos there's a few thousand that are untouched. We're dealing with a tremendous scale here.
>>574150114It's just that the way it was listed it made it sound like it was relatively common.
>>574149075True solo i don't think pre-release could really do randos
>>574149736>>574150346It depends how you define common. The Fanatic Judge burnt down a hab block in their past, because of an accusation of heresy - a hab block can range from the size of a real world apartment complex to being miles tall and wide with millions of residents. Such events with a hab block being destroyed are very common, as is purging everyone who lives close to someone who is found guilty of heresy (usually servitorization), very inspired by things like North Korea, the USSR, and the Khmer RougeBut an entire segmentum of the hive being destroyed on purpose is uncommon. I meant for an example of why one might be destroyed. Most hives have probably had one segmentum purged due to chaos at *some* point in their history, but probably only once or twice in their thousands to ten thousand years of history. It's just so large, with populations so vast, over so large a scale, it's nearly impossible for our brains to quantify
>>574151034Those tiny pipes don't look like they'd be enough.
>>574151034 (me)The actual most common cause of a hive segmentum being destroyed will be hivequakes, where the poor construction causes the structure to shift ala tectonic plates, which causes massive collapses of anything that isn't built on a load-bearing structure, and some buildings just straight up fall down into the sump (the toxic sea of runoff at the bottom of every hive)
>>574129912What the two Anons said. Fatshark only hires people who live in Sweden. Yes, this includes CSR's and Community Managers. As insane as that is. You need to move to Sweden to moderate a Discord, their forum, and their Twitter. Most people are not going to do that, so they have chronic personnel issues. In addition, they take a bunch of extended vacations every year that interfere with dev cycles. If they put a satellite office in either Canada or America, it'd take time to train people to use Stingray but it would solve so many long-term problems. Imagine a scenario where the team in Sweden goes on their mandatory vacation, but the guys in America keeps working. Then they switch. Satellite offices are used to solve these exact kinds of problems, and Fatshark can absolutely sustain that payroll since they'd hire another couple dozen people in Sweden if they could find them. Think of where we'd be with Darktide in terms of content if the team was doubled, and they weren't going on breaks every 10 minutes.
>>574149816Average hive city contains anywhere from 10 billion and 100 billion people.And 85% of imperial worlds have at least 1 hive city on them. People wonder why imperium chucks bodies at its problems is because they quite literally have over population. They can sacrifice like 20 million guardsmen to take a planet and it barely does a dent into their population.
>>574151403>Fatshark only hires people who live in Sweden. Yes, this includes CSR's and Community Managers. As insane as that is. You need to move to Sweden to moderate a Discord, their forum, and their Twitter.emergency gigachad
>>574151403>You need to move to Sweden to moderate a Discord, their forum, and their Twitter. Most people are not going to do thatSo long as they're providing work visas for it then I don't see the issue. A lot of people out there would be more than happy to move to Sweden.
Feel like Nurgle has an unfair advantage compared to other chaos bros infiltrating what is basically 'the peepeepoopoo spires'. Like he's not even sneaking in, that shit is just a part of the garden.
>>574151689More people is nice but it doesn't solve the problem of the ENTIRE OFFICE shutting down for their quarter annual six week vacations.
>>574151403>Imagine a scenario where the team in Sweden goes on their mandatory vacation, but the guys in America keeps working. Then they switch.Funny part about this is that they can and could already do this and just internally rotate their studio vacations, but all of them seem to be too retarded to figure it out.
>>574076491Like a year and a half ago left click was better dps if you did the tech right.He probably read an old guide and didn't understand that it no longer applied.Either that or he's just retarded
>>574151985If we maximize generosity to them, then it might be a case where there are multiple critical locations where they are one-deep on critical knowledge/skillset, and everything comes screeching to a hault if they are absent. So having those critical people synch vacations minimizes overall downtime.The solution ofcourse is not to be fucking one deep since then you're one car crash from the studio being fucked.
>>574151985>Internally rotate>But person a can't get person b so vice versa and shit post release stays broken for 2 vacations instead of one
>>574151917You'd be correct, especially since he's also the god of despair and hivecels have that in spadesAnother common one is Tzeentch, because he's the god of hope and most of them also want things to changeMeanwhile Khorne offers little to the average hive dweller but there are entire jobs that can sometimes fall to him - each hive has a bunch of guilds and some will be dedicated to deboning, flensing, and chopping up the dead bodies that are to be processed to corpse starch. It's very common for daemons of Khorne to get into the heads of these guys and convince them that since the average person *already* eats dead bodies, why not eat them while they're fresh? And then you get guys butchering people to eat themThe least common in hives is Slaanesh cults, obviously, because most of them that do exist are in the high ranking nobility/spires since they're the only ones with the money to do it. But them and Tzeentch will be the most common amongst the high class residents
I FUCKING LOVE SILENT DEMONHOSTS THANK YOU FATSHARK THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
>>574153791just identify the fog with your eyeballs bwo
>>574153791>hexbound daemonhost>normal daemonhost overlapped with the spawn pointBravo....
>>574149816I’m not really following. Are you including every structure with a Hive city on them as a Hive world? Because if you are I could see that but Terra is a hive world and it’s by far the most populous but it’s also obviously something of an outlier.>>574149736If you mean because of Chaos incursions then not that common no, more likely it’s the result of a gang war or factional infighting that has escalated
>>574154047>obvious daemon host in the middle of the room>need to slink around the side path. Have too just avoid the gunners since shooting them would aggro the daemon>ogryn: rumblin!Alternatively> the meme stealth zealot goes for the one-shot>fumbles the one-shot
>in ratclickIf you could build a party with all 4 players being the 4 careers of a single character, which composition would be strongest?>merc, huntsman, FK, GK>WHC, BH, Zealot, WP>RV, IB, Slayer, OE>BW, Pyro, UC, necro>WS, HM, shade, sottmy gut is saying kerillian (unfortunately) or saltz would be on top, I think sienna would probably be the weakest. bardin and kruber in the middle, probably kruber being stronger.
>>574151976>the ENTIRE OFFICE shutting down for their quarter annual six week vacationsIt's incredible that swedes get any worse done at all. Worse work ethic than the Spainish, or dare I say, the Fr*nch.
Fatshark..this haircut... please... for my psyker...I beg you
>>574155141I think it would go>Elf>Kruber>Saltz>Sienna>BardinIMO I think Bardin is heavily held back by three rather weak kits (Ranger, Ironbreaker and Slayer).I'm thinking Kruber>Saltz mostly just because of how crazy strong Grail Knight is. Warrior Priest is good, but Grail knight is way better. It makes up for Foot Knight not being great.
authoritarian arbites is so goofy, one moment hes "GLORIOUS MURDER" next hes "Remember kids, having fun isn't hard if you've got a library card!"
>>574155291the game seriously needs some better customization, literally 95% of female characters look exactly the same cause there's 1 good looking face and you get a choice between the bobbed or seras victoria haircut if you dont want to look like a junkie
>aggro the demonhost>I wasn't even on the same floorI fucking hate this shit game coded by fucking swedistan monkeys and I'm still glad their women are getting raped by subhuman shitkins on a daily basis. If you're swedish and readin this I hope your mom, daughter or sister will get raped as well.
>>574155291No.
>aggro the daemonhost>immediately leave so it attacks some unsuspecting fag instead
>>574157768I do that and I look like that
>>574151294They probably recycle a lot of waste ie. drink filtered pee and eat corpses.
Does fatshark care about a little smack talk? Sometimes I really wanna tell someone to stick to malice. I know i'm not that great of a player but damn some of these people.
>aggro the daemonhost>punch stagger it to death>punch every daemonhost I see
>arbeetus playing like a fuckin retard on late night EU server>turns out he's a fuckin squeaker (or some trans guy with a feminine voice) >look at steam profile>Tyrone>UKEvery fuckin time, couldn't even beat Argentina at fuckin soccer what a worthless race
>>574157768this doesn't even work you fuckin retardif you aggro and leave it just resets the host
>>574157768based and same
>>574158242I've been calling people retards, mongols and niggers on a daily basis for 3 years, just do it on voice chat
>>574158478>be psyker>use combat knife with kinetic flayer>every so often use the special action to punch an elite's head into exploding>pretend I'm a muscle wizard
>>574158242>Don't want to hurt feelings so no green circlesLolno
>>574158601Fake and gay fatshark deepthroater, I have been on the receiving end of this at least thrice
>>574155141God Belakor is so cool I hope he returns some day and fucks stuff up
>>574158601Lol no
>>574158838>>574158904ohthen that means they reverted this change at some pointit *used* to be that wayI guess they accidently broke their fix and never bothered refixing itmy bad
>>574158676As long as you actually don't suck I don't care what you sayIn my experience>Histg no man's land>Fuckin dumbass runs around a corner into gas and pushes forward blindly and gets krumped>Me and the skitty who aren't fucking dumb thinning out the crushers>"Of course you retarded niggers play the new shit class, it's your fault you let me get ahead and die"
>>574158868He will return to job to the hero-of-the-edition.
>>574158242Fatshark has slapped temporary bans on people, if it gets reported.
>>574155749>>574155141Are you kidding? That's going in the fucking book. Bardin would be strongest. By a lot. Holy shit it would be a faceroll.>RV's survivalist passive feeds IB and engineer infinite trollhammer ammo>Engineer has total freedom to just go ham with the crankgun 24/7 since slayer and IB are both melee powerhouses that can make sure that nothing can ever pressure engi>I'm not normally a fan of monster-taunt on IB, but no monster is going to survive for very long at all if IB forces aggro onto him and RV, Slayer, and Engi all DPS the everloving fuck out of it>BOMBS. RV's scavenger talent generates them, Engineer's passive generates them, the two trollhamers effectively are bombs that are fed extra ammo from RV.>RV's masterwork pistol can snipe the blightstormer casting from Morrslieb.
>>574157336New class when???
>>574159124>team dies from excessive explosive friendly fire
>>574159356Engineer's explosives don't cause friendly fire. Actually, the wording on the tooltip is "Bardin's explosives don't cause friendly fire", so swede code might apply that to the whole party. Even then, IB and RV just need to not be retarded with the bombs and trollhammer.
>>574159356
>>574159124>in the bookbut anon, bardin is an outcast and therefore an honourless cur who's grudges won't go in the book
>>574149816terra only has a population of hundreds of billionsquadrillion is the total population of imperium
>>574159667hehe theres something about that map that brings out the friendly fire
>>574159707He has his own grudge book, every dwarf does except maybe the nehekharan one
>>574159667The grim disappearing is just *chef's kiss*
>>574159667I wish that shopclick could produce such SOVL
>>574157339I'd say those are awful things to sayBut I've been chain nuked off the train in rolling steel by 15 back to back poxbursters in pox gas during the boss fight
>>574159667slave rat MVPhe really took one for the team
>>574159798wrongo>I am alone again now. Strange to say that, surrounded as I am by the quadrillions of the Throneworld, and yet it is truer now than it has ever been.The Emperor's Legion>Spinoza shivered. The air was as caustic as ever, but so high up it had lost its punishing heat. The humidity was still present, though – the massed respiratory results of the quadrillions down in their warrens, those narrow worlds of damp and desperation. She had left her helm locked to her armour, and the clammy gale ruffled through her short hair. Every so often a buffet would catch her, a swell of pressure that threatened to shove her over the edge.The Carrion ThroneTerra is literally covered entirely in urban structure. It has zero arable land. Zero oceans. It's just architecture on top of architecture, from equator to pole. All food is brought in from offworld. Even the less densely populated spots like the Fortress of the Inquisition and the Palace have hundreds of millions of live-in workers
>>574159342
Why the fuck does everyone jumps over the ramp on Rolling Steel every single time? Why not use it as cover and clear Murderville, pop: every single gunners in Tertium, BEFORE you hop in??? HENLO? Vee do diz in Deutschland
>>574160614shut up bitch
>>574155749agreed with most but I think saltz would maybe take a slight edge over kruber - GK is fantastic, but FK and huntsman are such stinkers imo, compared to saltz's pretty consistently good careers, but I haven't seen many BH players in a long time so maybe I'm mistaken. I've never had a FK or HM that felt like they were capable of carrying but I get that experience with saltz pretty regularly, totally see I could be biased about it too.>>574159124I actually asked the question because I had a dream I was playing vermintide in a team of all bardins lul (too much DRG). Bardin is my favorite dude to play, but I can't really see that comp steamrolling like all elgi or all saltz. Most of his careers feel a bit like skub, consistently over or underrated but not accurately judged, I'll think one of his careers is meh and then play it and it feels godtier, and vice versa. The biggest knock against him IMO is most of the teams that win the modded tourneys (DWONS and shit) don't take him at all.
>Farshark removes scoreboard so deranged trannies don't sperg over score>deranged trannies just mod in a scoreboard alongside their cheat modsFatshark are such retards.
>>574160260and whats wrong, you understand that quadrillion is 1000000000000000, thats one thousand 100 billions, you skipped over the entire notation of trillions
>>574160817The thing is that Bardin's careers synergize well with himself. Trollhammer is largely held back by its poor ammo supply, but RV's presence on the team completely removes that restriction. RV and OE are vulnerable to getting pressured in melee, but IB and slayer are completely comfortable on the frontline against the largest mixed hordes.I think that the only thing that would slow down an all-bardin team is if this mode spammed grudgemarked monsters at them that are immune to ranged damage. Slayer would have to step up and do most of the damage to those. RV honestly probably should leave the MWP at home and run the handgun for special sniping duty since I don't think that the party needs more monster damage between slayer, a crankgun, and two trollhammers.
>>574161221Yes, I'm referring to the spots which are practically empty to those spots. They're the gated communities compared to the entire planet's Giga Mumbai
>>574160817I once saw a huntsman hyper carry and I didn't understand how he did it.I can't make that career work for me at all, and I mostly play elf.
>>574161579>I mostly play elf.Huntsman actually requires hands that's why.
>>574161710I see.I miss flamethrower bardin having good talents.
>>574157339>>574157768>>574158478>Aggro the Daemonhost>Be Gunlugger Ogryn on Mulch build>Stare the fucker in the eyes as I whip out my Twin-Linked Stubber>Pic Rel>Hit F> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDM2qukzKwg
Thanks for helping me be not complete dogshit at poxclick, anons.
>>574162262what did you learn from this place?I'm actually curious, because I see anons ask shit all the time and I'm wondering what stuck lol
>>574162426That I need to get better at shoving and kiting hordes, that I should be slidespamming whenever there's any gunfire my way, and that I should be prepared for the text chat to just fucking break for no reason.
>>574162426I learned that the heavy sword is meta and have been clearing uprisings with it!
>>574162426NTA but speaking from personal experience there's always little tidbits of information i'm able to get out of these threads from the spergs who dump 3k hours into a single character. Even for my main guy ogryn i've learned some small things
the launcher won't open I just want to play some darktide with friends...
>>574161479I hadn't really considered trollhammer with nigh unlimited ammo since that just never happens lol. That would be insane now that I'm thinking about it, especially since you could even take two.
quickly everyone, into the vertical descender!
>>574163376That was me, stay out of my aurics.
>>574164123>let's plot a course>intercourse
which keystone for dogless arbites?
>>574164636turdminus warcunt
>>574164636The answer is always Forceful
>>574087793step 1: take a level 200 weaponstep 2: go into damnationstep 3: have fun
>>574161579Huntsman is incredibly powerful if you can consistently score ranged headshots.
>>574094871>>574096692it takes like 5-6 hours to grind a character to level 30 just pick some rando starting weapon and run that till you hit 30then you can start rolling. same with talents. just play melee + gun until you hit level 30 + damnation and things like talents and blessings actually start being noticeable.
>>574164636keystones are a trap to prevent you from taking good talents
>spectate relic blade zealto>never turns it on???
>>574166067There is a horrifying portion of players who are not aware the weapon special key exists. Not just controller players who simply have it in a bad spot, but those who are amazed when informed that power swords can be turned on.
>>574166067>>574167505or maybe he just wants to play on old difficulty scaling
>>574164123what is the origin of the cacarats
>>574166067A few days ago I witnessesed a consolenigger learn that we can respec our talents
>>574101972So how is schizo-click?
>>574166067I like the moveset but I don't like pressing the activation button because it feels clunky, it works fine without it
My dad is Swedish. During Q4 fatshark will release a new gamemode called "The Depths".>you progress through different levels of the hive similar to the Chao Wastes>procgen maps stitched together from existing and unused tilesets >unique cosmetic rewards for completion at different difficulties (data mined years ago btw)>Depths will use its own progression system like weaves>Depths is also ranked but doesn't have the high difficulty of Havoc>included in the update will be a new variant of plague ogryn for all modes and Depths exclusive weapons for each class
>>574168726>Fatshark will release contentFAKE AND GAY
>>574168726I refuse to believe.
>>574168726>another gamemode no one will playi believe it
>>574168726you will maybe get a new class with a grand total of 2 unique weapons
>>574168726>catposting on coopgGAKE AND FAY
>>574155291>using my very own screenshot for reddit cloutNIGGER! FRENCH AND NIGGER!
>>574169190He's a helltranny poster btw. Check the archive
Which melee weapon do you like using for arbites?
>>574169415Holy meds
>>574169376yeah there's some faggot that also immediatelly posted the anime girl voice modulator.
>>574169415Kek how fucking retarded are you to do a whole history check on every post here?
>>574169503crusher impactmaxxingforcing ogryns to sit down feels good
>>574169596the what now
>>574169503>Is the most satisfying blunt weapon in the game in your path
>>574169754the skit voice
>>574169620I'm going to start saving and reposting every shitposters image just to torment this retard.
>>574169867>>574169620Trannies with secrets fear the archive historian
>>574169376im here and im not gonna wait 10 minutes to launch the game and track down the same npc for the exact same screenshot
>>574169503
>>574168726I believe this because it's extremely retarded100% agree with >>574169010>yet another fucking gamemode that either divides the player base or just dies weeks after release because theres no reason to play it (and it's not as fun as the other stuff)
>>574169818post it, I want to try
>>574169909I had someone here chimp the fuck out for using picrelated and asking a question about the ogryn a few years ago. Probably the same guy now that I think about it.
>>574169989You, Sir, can have my upvote! (I asked my wife's boyfriend to upvote your post as well but he's a bit busy atm, if you know what I mean hehe)
>>574170138okay.
>>574170219Nope. I didn't even see that postPeople forget what they post. They come here posting images that they posted on /int/ or /pol/ and /lgbt/ and a quick search latter i know what country they are from and that they are trannies
>>574169989You're a drawfag at least you could do some epic memz for us fucking nigger
>>574170609i will continue drawing pretty women for myself
>>574170474Have you ever considered that maybe people see funny cat pictures on /pol/ /int/ and /lgbt/ and decide to save them?
this has to be the most worthless blessing in the game>increases your passive toughness regen speed when you hit an enemy with your special melee attack>***NOTE*** passive touighness regen is disabled when enemies are in melee rangeI understand that they want the toughness replenishment mechanic to encourage people to stick together, but God damn this shit is worthless
>>574170456what's anime about it
>>574170769And name them the same non-default 4chan file names?
>>574170836ok I get it now
>>574171327link video
>>574138325The next thing you'll learn are the tiny bullshit props that block your dodges around all around the levels when your reflexes improve.
>>574159667The fucked up part is that I can't even see where this rat even came from. I guess that might be the compression doing its thing but it feels like that rat just appeared from Bardin's beard.
>>574170969a lot of people download images through the built in save feature which keeps the filename.
>>574171374no, lazy
>>574171938It's one of those ones that ran past the elf on the left, Bardin probably blasted it with his Grudgeraker sending it flying
If I haven't won a single game in 4 days how badly should I hit myself
>>574169620Archive autist found a post of me complaining about beta penances with the same file name then had a meltdown in the thread convinced that I was a spammer.He is genuinely unwell.
>>574172856idk I think it's still impressive you managed to survive that single game for 4 whole days
>>574172949So how badly should I hurt myself
>>574172856Sounds like you need to drop the difficulty, but first, punch yourself as hard as you can in the nose
ok
>>574172925>everyone is the same person!Talk about being unwell
>>574172826Yeah, you're right. I think it's this one specifically. Absolutely stellar amazing performance from this one.
>>574173127>post was literally about the retard mistaking me for someone else >Retard gets called out on his previous behaviour, immediately deflects Holy shit, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahha.
>>574173213Yeah this massive spergout followed by an awkward laughing fit doesn't make you sound retarded and mentally ill at all
>>574169503I've been having fun with the original mark of mace+shield.
>>574173127>checking the archive for every shitpost you see is totally normal lots of people do it>it's probably you who is the schizo if you wanna know the truth about it
>>574173364You would have no need to respond to anything of mine if it didn't hit a nerve. Replying only just proves my point more and more.Keep coping.
How do some players become completely immune to ranged fire? I have spectated some players when I was dead and they just ignore most of the enemy fire. Hits that would deal 50dmg to me deal only 2-3 damage to them and the toughness heals instantly. What am I doing wrong when I can't get nowhere close to that?
>>574173429I never claimed to do this, but the fact that you are so consistently retarded that archive searching terrifies you really says a lot>>574173532Do you even realize how triggered and seething you sound right now? Tell me, how red is your face right now?
>>574173682Not constantly sliding/shit talent tree.Ass should be glued to floor when playing havocs.
>russian retard in auric running away form the poxburster instead of pushing itgod I hate the late night EU server
>>574173742>N-n-no ur mad!Genuinely red with laughter, I didnt think mentioning you would lead to this level of a meltdown.LMFAO.
>>574173742You literally did that over a fake leak with a cat image.
>>574173682Sliding and dodging throws off gunner aim, making consistent kills keeps your toughness topped up, the rest is map knowledge and knowing where to be to block sight lines
>>574170816>Enemies in ranged in relevant difficulties instantly deplete your TGH>Enemies in relevant difficulties prevent characters from having dialogue because they don't stop spawningFS implementation team doesn't play test shit or talk with the ideas spitballing team
>Trapper literally hooks me through a door
>>574174098I clipped into a spawn door once
>>574173851Depending on the map I run awayI'm so sick and tired of itchy finger vets, itchy finger ogryns, Arby's dogs, and fuckhead payments fucking me over
>>574173759That kind of gameplay doesn't seem enjoyable
>>574173682Depends on the character and weapons. Here's a few examples that could look extremely outlandish to someone who doesn't know what's happening.>Hive scum just waltzing through the bullets before ultimately entangling them in melee Desperado was active and made hive scum count as dodging vs ranged attacks>Zealot caught out in the open vs a bunch of reapers, but they're able to walk back to cover unscatched while magdumping their laspistol at the ogryns' faces"Ghost" blessing repeatedly rendered them immuned to ranged attacks upon weakspot hit>Someone just lazily ignoring the bullets while running around with their gun outthe "Stripped down" blessing granting ranged immunity while sprinting with over 50% stamina.
>>574174205Havoc is when you reach the point that all other coop games bore you with difficulty.Not needed for aurics, maybe a fucked malestorm. Just dodge and slide regularly.
>>574174228He was playing as arbitrator and was happily pummeling away crushers while getting shot by 50 mob shooters on auric
>>574155141Bardin by a landslide like the other anon says. RV feeding OE and IB ammo is too good.Then a tossup of Kerillian and Saltz, both mainly due to their weapons. Kruber and Sienna last. Not that they're bad though.
>>574174205>Enemies get more health>You get less resources >Stupid shit like stagger ignore>Less health and TGH>Basically play slowly, tediously and for no tangible rewardsHavoc isn't made to be enjoyable
I'd like to point out how calm my posts are compared this >>574173914 retard's massive tantrum. My guess is that he's trying to give me second-hand embarrassement as punishment for triggering him>>574173920>searching 1 image means i am responsible for all image search related postsFunny how you thought i had a problem with mistaking one poster for another and then it turns out that you're the one doing the exact same thing. Self-awareness is too rare a trait and it makes conversations like this very hard for serious and intelligent people like me
>>574174395Probably castration stance.
>>574174491t. doesn't know why people climb mountains
>>574174395He may have been running castigators stance. That gives you 70% damage resistance and arbitrator has notoriously OP toughness replenishment to begin with.
>>574168726I believe it. Retarded enough for Fatshark
>>574174547>Self-awareness is too rare a trait and it makes conversations like this very hard for serious and intelligent people like me.I'm fucking crying man, this is just all a shitpost right?
>>574174395He could have had castigator's stance up and granting 70% reduction in incoming damage. There's also some decent damage reduction talents in his tree:>canine moral granting 20% TDR for a few seconds every time that the dog kills something>suppression protocol granting 20% TDR every time that you melee cleaves three targets>imposing force grants 25% damage reduction for 5s every time that he kills an elite or special.
>>574174581t. doesn't know why people prefer vemintide 2
>>574173851It's not coming home I can't sleep and now I have to babysit vatniks who are too retarded to be sent to the Ukrainian meat grinder.
>>574174547>>searching 1 image means i am responsible for all image search related postsThe thing that gives you away is that you did that for absolutely no reason. That shitpost wouldn't have offended any normal person.
>>574174708It's only natural that your tantrum should include crying. Have you reached the diaper shitting phase yet?
Do I need a constant slide script if I want to play havoc?
>>574174581Shut the fuck up, I wouldn't bitch so hard if I didnt have to fucking use the faggot ass party finder for it
>>574174890Look out! Detective Retard is on the case!
>>574174491There's nothing wrong with enemies having more health and dealing more damage?Cataclysm in VT2 is the comfiest difficulty in Tide games precisely because the enemies are just tanky enough for it to not feel like a faceroll - and it means the enemies dont need to be spammed so much. If anything I wish Havoc would make enemies even tankier and tone down the spawns a bit.
>>574174893I do love the desperate attempt at trying to find another anon to agree with you and all you get is just another bait reply from me egging you on so I can continue to laugh at you.I haven't stopped giggling, you are so fucking stupid.
>>574174953No
>>574175096>a bit>a bit Brother have you played a 40?
>>57417484560 YEARS OF HURT
>>574175096I didn't respond with the VT2, that was someone elseAgain, it's the one game mode where you sit around looking for a bunch of flakes most of the time I let defeats the concept of rejectsYes. I also find FS's solution to some penances being "only in private parties" to be fucking stupid as well
>>574175106Wipe away your tears before you blubber your next reply and i might actually believe that you aren't supremely butthurt by the spanking i just gave your brown ass
>>574175096Agreed. I feel like in Legendary you are able to kill elites too fast. That way you never need to defend against them. Cataclysm allows enemies to strike back so you can't just steamroll them
>>574175320>hes still going Im trying to stop crying man, but these very sad attempts at trying to ragebait me gets funnier everytime.
>>574175096>Tone down spawns a bitThats every difficulty at this point is a constant annoying drip of enemies with no banter timeIt wasn't like this on launchThen again don't know why they can't figure out how to balance veteran and why they're all over the place with ogryn
>>574175016>Detective RetardYou literally comb the archive trying to link random shitposters on different boards. What happened to that self awareness bro? Lmaooo
>>574175320damn nigga go easy on him!
>>574168726If they were gonna do chaos wastes they probably would have alreadysame with a new faction or any other massive thing that people have wanted
>archive autist is also the yeah you raped him guy Absolute biblical crashout.
>>574175457>hes still goingTranslation: please stop dunking on me!You tried going toe to toe with me and now you have switched to clown mode because you don't want people to think that you were being serious but failed to match me on an intellectual level>>574175479>self-awarenessSo you're ready to admit that you are wrong, retarded and mentally ill?
>>574175602I feel like the sweeds are too proud/retarded>hmmmp. We've always done chaos wastes before. Our NEW_THING will be better!>The players hate our NEW_THING and want chaos wastes? HARUMPH!!! Those foolish imbeciles don't know what they want. WE know best.
>>574175786I'm going to give you some advice okay.You can't ragebait someone when you are absolutely steaming, go for a walk or something before you take it out on your poor mother LMAO.
>>574175640>everyone is the same person!I have raped you into a fullblown state of mindbroken cum-serfdom
>>574163376Deserves. Fatshark has finally caught up with you. They heard you talking shit on here. End of the line.
>>574175942>nonsense greentext that has nothing to do with the reply.LMFAO
>>574175905This all started over a cat pic. I sure hope his neighbors cat isn't outside when he goes on this walk. Lmao
>>574159798Terra’s population is in the trillions, quadrillions is one number for the whole of the Imperium but there are numbers that are higher than too.
>>574175905If you were smarter then you would pivot away from your failed tactic of pretending like you aren't throwing a fullblown tantrum after i called it out numerous times, but i guess that would require you to have a level of intelligence and creativity that allowed you to construct posts that went beyond projecting your own emotions unto me
>>574176110He still doesn't understand that no one but the perpetrator would defend themselves to this degree.My sides are fucking killing me.
>wanting to make pretty characters when being ugly as fuck is accurate to the source material
>>574176225Im protecting my emotions onto you? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>574168726Lol depths? You stole this from Shartreign didn’t you?
>>574175860There was a dev interview with viktor magnusson (the lead dev) and he straight up said>We try to make things that players don't even know they want which is absolute hubris coming from the guy who made weaves, mortis trials and expeditions (I checked, these are all his ideas) Notably he did not make Chaos Wastes, it was mostly a different studio. This is 100% making his ego hurt and he's refusing to do it
>>574176096You are so desperate to score your first point against me that you don't even give yourself enough time to understand what's going on before postingBelieve me, a retard like you can never get too much extra time to study
>>574176192If the entire planet is urbanized, buildings on top of buildings, then trillions just gives them too much space. 2 quadrillion would 'only' be twice as densely populated as kowloon walled city and terra's definitely more densely populated than that thanks to the verticality
>>574176390>>574176248The reason why you keep losing against me is because you instantly jump to laughing as if you had a clever response without an actual clever response. I needn't laugh at my own posts because there are dozens of people here backing me up and laughing with me
>>574176841> I needn't laugh at my own posts because there are dozens of people here backing me up and laughing with me.Alright so this is ironic and I've just been had? Like there is actually no way.
>>574176192>source: reddit speculationTerra's pop is in the quadrillions, per the books, but the actual number is impossible to determine because the administratum is so inefficient that it literally could not carry out an accurate census, even on the throneworld.
>>574176525>>574176841holy shit dude go easy on him
>>574174098If you hear them fire, they have a shot angle on you.
>>574177092Tbf, while the administratum is insanely inefficient, in this case it would be practically impossible for the most efficient bureaucrats to document everyone just because how do you even manage that
>>574169989That’s a very cute Harley :) >>574174205>>574174491Truer words have never been spoken
>>574177009You have stated many times that you think i'm trolling and yet you keep responding. The reason why you do this is because people like you have a very low impulse control and you are desperate to punish me for making you angry and embarrassed
>>574177362
>>574177009You got raped my man. He was merely pretending to have autism this whole time.
>>574177597He really got me, for a second there I thought he was a freak.
I hate summer so fucking much, these faggot kids are literally just doing a back and forth of nuh uh/yuh huh and amateur psychoanalyst larping because they watched death note and thought it was cool. Can't wait for school to get back in session so this fucking place is only slightly less unusable.
>>574177465>i'm totally laughing, guys!You tried this before and got raped in every hole. I'm interested to see if you have the capacity to come up with a new angle on the fly, but i don't think i should expect too much of you
>>574177661go to sleep unc
>>574177661Nuh uh
>>574177661I have been here longer than you. This is my general. When you see me posting you either back me up or step aside
Vermintide 2 sucks so much ass but is still the best. Why is it so hard to make a good game?
>>574177935because any time these fucking swedes hit on a good idea by pure chance, they promptly vanish off the face of the earth for a three-month """""""""vacation"""""""" and then return at the end completely mindwipedit has been this way since at least Lead & Gold, probably longer but i wouldn't know past that
is it worth playing vm2? my only experience with tide games is darktide, are the bots in vm2 that good for solo play? i dont think ill find lobbies at low level so i just wanna know
>>574179578bots are bots and they use the same builds you had last equipped on that character, so if the last time you played kerrilian was shade, kerrilian bot will be a shade and use all the talents and weapons you have equipped
>>574179578I think you have to be really into warhammer fantasy to like it imo. I tried it with friends and found it to be way slower and no where near as intense as higher difficulty darktide
>>574172771pretty please anon??? ;3
>>574170816could this be the fabled Bolt Thrower reference>https://youtu.be/I29z5zvPmo4
>>574176508>Notably he did not make Chaos Wastes, it was mostly a different studio.Well fuck. They're too stubborn to ever give us shopclick wastes. RIP.
>>574180682what were they playing, thrash?
Why do Crushers completely lack in the AURA of Chaos Warriors?
>>574181379Because they're still ogryns, and ogryns are dumb as bricks
>>574181379chaos warriors go PUNY SOUTHLANDER
>>574181379>YOU'RE NEXT
Griefoire
paired transphobic blades
>>574181379Maybe if crushers called you an elven wench every now and then. All we get is WRECKING KREWW
>>574181379Crushers just waddle about and try to land big overheads. Chaos warriors have that lightning fast left hook if you try to fuck around and find out.
>>574182329that's not even a crusher line, that's a bulwark.
>>574182659Crushers also have the same attack. They have like 5 or 6 attacks
>>574181379chaos warriors were built like brick shithouses and came across as fearsome warriors. Crushers are just walking dustbins
>hearing kino dialogue>interrupted by calloutvgh...
>>574182873Huh. I guess that I've never fucked around against them.
>>574179951You're just listing reasons why the game is superior, zoom zoom.Warhammer Fantasy is a far better setting. And I doubt you played Cataclysm.
>>574182665Close enough. Also bulsharts could never compare to the aura of their vermintide counterparts.
>>574181379chaos warriors had unique callouts for each character
>>574183178another aspect of sovl lost by the change from premades to player mades...
if i start playing darktide again will people from here play with me or do i have to play with randoms (suicidal)
>include art showing an ogryn with a cool hand cannon>not an in game weaponwhat is the swedes' problem?
>>574183520baby's first look at a concept art
>>574183520They're obsessed with making the cosmetics quirky and junk instead of cool because it would go against the 'theme' of the game or something
>>574177661This posting has been going on for longer than just summer anon.>>574179951Being into Fantasy definitely helps but even before I made any serious attempt to get into the setting I really liked it. If you played it after Darktide though I can see why you’d struggle to like VT.
>>574183704this art is in game thoughever
>>574183820this changes everything
>>574183437i'll play with you anon
>>574179578Comparing to Darktide:>bots are vastly superior; while a decent human is obviously still better than them, they are nonetheless capable of keeping themselves alive and thinning out the enemy>pacing is slower, with no sprinting and more open maps>combat is much more methodical; attacks are more deliberate, both from you and from the enemy>gameplay is far less forgiving, with mistakes big and small being punished much more harshly>more value in teamwork, as an individual player--while still able to keep themselves alive through skill and caution--possesses a much smaller toolbox than in Darktide>my personal opinion is that it's more difficult overall; though some anons may disagree and cite H40, i view H40 less as true difficulty and more as fatshark simply setting enemy number sliders to maximum without any regard for how the AI handles it (for example, poxbursters spawning in clumped batches of six because there wasn't any consideration given to spreading them out for a more varied fight).On the whole, I think Vermintide 2 is simply a better game than Darktide in almost every aspect, but it shows its age and the increased movement speed of the latter really do make it hard to go back to something slower at the drop of a hat. Whenever I feel the urge to return to V2, it takes at least a few matches before I start to enjoy myself, almost like a forced detox from the frenetic crackhead pacing of Darktide.The characters, both playable and NPC, in V2 mog those of Darktide so brutally that I didn't want to list it with the other stuff because it honestly feels like picking on a kid with Down's Syndrome. Same goes for level layout, albeit slightly less so.
>>574183232The fucked up thing is that they could've easily kept the unique callouts just don't make them gendered >I HAVE YOU NOW, GUARDSMAN>PERISH, PRIEST>PUNY ARBITRATORetc etc
>>574183520that's just a weirdly small ripper or a very large ogryn
>>574183437You might get one or two people to join you from here depending on your region. Despite the schizo shitflinging that goes on here daily, the few times I've played with /coopg/ (just smashing aurics) were smooth and fun, nobody was too big of a sperg.
>>574184169Lil' rippers for ogryn when?
>>574184169I guess that settles it, in game rippers don't feel like they could easily one hand them like thatNeed the bolt pistol to the ripper's boltgun
>>574184107Something that you didn't touch up on that I think is a big deal is "CLARITY". Maps are, for the most part, very well lit with the only truly dark segments being torch segments. The characters in vermintide have vastly different silhouettes than the enemy. If you enable teammate outlines, the outlines are crisp and clear in stark contrast to the cyan fuzzy bullshit. There's certainly no shopclick style bullshit like skills that outline enemies in the same cyan blur that teammates are outlined in. Someone will probably try to bring up the elf's fur shawl in her classic WS outfit, but that's a far cry from being able to dress up like pic related.Darktide is like they built upon the bones of VT2 and made some improvements, but the team also brought on a shit ton of amateurs that made mountains of game design 101 mistakes.
>>574184107Agreed on every point. >>574184793And this.
>>574184793Oh yeah, absolutely; when I see a horde approaching in V2, I can tell at a glance more or less exactly what I'm dealing with. The red tunic of stormvermin, the goofy helmet of maulers, and the tip of a packmaster's crook poking out of the top of a horde are all absolutely burned into my eyes at this point; that clarity extends to the audio, too, though to its credit, Darktide does this excellently as well.. The UI in V2 is cleaner and simpler as well, likely due to the significant lack of obscure ability bullshit you see in Darktide with a dozen indeterminate buff icons clogging the bottom of your screen.
>>574185192>>574184793>>574184107Another thing that I dislike about darktide is the absolute fucking spam of a billion different>if you jump through X hoop then you gain Y buff for Z seconds. The simpler talent builds in vermintide where a lot more honest and wholesome. Without third party mods it would be impossible to get a serious read on what kind of uptime some of those fucking buffs provide.Another point that I don't think gets given enough credit is weapon balance. There are a handful of weapons that are arguably just shit tier, but most of them are just fine. Also the power gap between a generic grey weapon and a fully min-maxed red wasn't that extreme. It's part of what enabled chaos wastes to work. You didn't need perfectly rolled weapons since any random upgrade from a random chaos wastes vendor would probably be perfectly serviceable. People criticize swift slaying as being the cookie-cutter best in slot for melee weapons, but I still maintain that some weapons did fine running the defensive parry trait or opportunist to bully ragers via staggerlocking. Even the power boost from swift slaying is extremely tame compared to the MASSIVE boosts in power that the shopclick weapons get with their optimal blessings.
>>574186041>but most of them are just fineWell not to jack off darktide but this isn't really a point in V2's favour. Most ranged weapons were either special poppers or close range horde clear. There was really nothing special in the ranged weapons. Ammo scarcity was the balancing lever generally speaking
I haven't played Darktide since Arbites release but might reinstall since this game is apparently alive again.Did Arbites get new cosmetics yet?
>>574186204buddy, none of the dlc classes are ever getting anything aside from what they released with
>>574186204Haha anon.... No.
>>574186198I mostly talking about the melee weapon balance there. Ranged options were pretty sparse for most characters. Ranged combat as a whole was less significant in vermintide. In chaos wastes I could run up to a random weapon shop to receive a completely random melee weapon with random traits and blessings during a run, and I felt completely fucking comfortable doing that in cataclysm runs. Can you say the same in shopclick? That the weapon balance is good enough for you to throw away your melee weapon in exchange for any random other melee weapon, any whatsoever, with completely random upgrades on it?
>>574186204
>>574186458playing hivescum with anything but shivs feels like a chore desu
>>574184107I don't really find VT2 combat more surgical. I came to VT2 after 500 hours of darktide and hitting H40 one season.I think VT2 combat is a bit overatted at this point, the horde and heavy chains really aren't that much different compared to darktide. What I do prefer is the balance of the combat, its much better. I haven't found a weapon on heavy sword tier yet (I may be wrong).Strongest case for vermintide is its setting, I own several thousand points of fantasy and 40k, and vermintide really handles it better, I love how bleak the game is. Feels like what you are doing is so insignificant. And the level visuals are really well done. Also the add on to the point I fucking love the chaos warriors calling you out for a challenge. I haven't played cata because lol dead game. But you can get through legend just spamming attacks with good spacing/awareness.
>>574186041I think Swift Slaying is an excellent point and I use it myself. Its the best overall talent and all it does is occasionally give a tiny bit of attack speed. Its completely meaningless compared to the stupid Darktide blessings where a weapon doesnt function without specific picks.
>>574186204>Did Arbites get new cosmetics yet?
>Rannick said you'd say that. And then he laughed. A big belly laugh!
>>574186720Legend is the equivalent of Heresy. Its a mouthbreather difficulty through and through. The gap to Cata is massive, you should try it.
>>574186948>>574186041>every weapon has 10-15 blessings>a total of three of them are decent on each given weapon>most are the same across a lot of different weapons dorktide
>>574186041Half a decade ago when we played with friends more often we had a literal wheel of fortune set up with every career and weapon combo possible. It was insanely fun to spin and jump to a Cata match with random loadouts on everyone. Chaos Wastes then kind of did the same thing and that was also fun
the voice modification doesn't work for my skitarii
they should add 5 levels to get and 2-3 weapons for each class and sell it as an expansion pack
>>574188292Double check your settings to make sure it's toggled on.
>>574188406triple did, also when I fiddle with the modifier at the doktor's I can't hear a diff
>>574188292You're tone deaf
>>574188649YOU TELL ME AM MEDIA ILLITERATE
FATSHARKGIVE SKITTY WITTY THE HELBORE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
>>574188501Weird.One other thing to consider that it skews toward the middle. So swinging from one extreme end to another won't change much.An array depth of 3 will be closer to the deepest voicewhile a ~40% decryption is closer to having the most distortion.
Why are rejects so bakasussy about Hestia-neechan? Like they don't trust her for some reason.
>see fog>there isn't actually a daemonhost in it>it's just fog
>>574189104probably because she's a hypocrite and an asshole
>>574189141And I still skirt around it because I remember the bug where the DH just hadn't spawned in yet
>>574189220>Melk: Do not grow attached to the rejects. They won't be here long.>Prine: All the more reason to show them some kindness.Such an asshole
>>574189104she's a bit of an iconoclast which is strange for someone in such a religious position.
>>574186324The only new thing they are likely to ever get is if they add more marks to weapons they share with base classes.>>574186204So no, also, there are some multi class(ie standard human) cosmetics like the various implants, cyber eyes and augments that aren't listed in their part of the store or cosmetics menu unless you have them.
>>574181379SOUTHLANDER.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LPZjLERDA8
>>574184216It seems you got lucky then because I do remember a few public meltdowns that were spurred from attempts but I’m glad to know it’s a possibility >>574187016God what an awful character and line
>>574188374>2-3 weapons for each class New marks of shovels and mauls!
>>574190335Sub to WitchHunter.com for the ghetto southlander shaker
>>574187016mazozi feels like a character written for a different game entirely.
>>574192216probably the most apt description
Man what the fuck am I doing
>>574192216She never should have been given mission operator lines. At most she should say a sentence or two at the very start or end of a mission.
The only characters worth a damn on the Mourningstar are Morrow, Rannick, Kayex and Hadron.
>>574193372We need every mission to get a kayex variant and then make a mod that makes it so I get kayex as the guy every time.Hadron's fine too.
>>574193372And me
I miss heinrix
My purpose is to generate toughness and distant revive people surrounded by elites
>>574193219She should have been the traitor Rannick executed I fucking hate Masozi
>>574193992Servitorized
Best to worst is:KayexHadronMorrowThe one cutie with black hairSwaggyRannickThe two guardsmen that really like meHestiaMilkZolaNew Purchases Are Available>Wish weren't in the game tier:Rest
>>574194343Mating press
Thoughts on the rebreather talent for Arbites? My brain says "just don't stand in the gas dumbass", but my gut says "my teammates NEVER kill tox bombers and the whole fucking map will be covered in gas if I don't get that kill first"
>>574194343You really hate Krall and Brunt that much?
>>574194472Sometimes retards won't take out tox bomber fast, so it'll help you out in tight rooms or quickly carrying batteries through gas.I like it and Ablative ward on Skittle.
>>574194574Danishman is too silly for my tastesBrunt doesn't even speak, so he's tied with New Purchases Are Available bot
>>574194643I love ablative ward. It cucks more things than just tox bombers.
>>574194343I like the tank commander. Rannick is fine enough but Zola NEEDS to die
>>574194729Oh yeah Dragor. I'd place him right below Morrow.
>>574194724Beasts of nurgle will never let you go but at least they won't harm you if they swallow you
>>574194960Dogs also do nothing to you while the servo skull slowly shoots them off.
>Join auric>Smyker smyking>Leave game>Join auric again>Another smyker, level 26>Get barrelledFuck my chud life
>>574195065If you're up against a wall then the servo skull might get pushed into a position where it can't shoot the dog
>>574194472>Thoughts on the rebreather talent for Arbites?It's comfy. That's all it's good for. If you're doing any sort of optimization, it's not worth the point. You should indeed simply not stand in the farts, and simply kill the bomber.No, it's not worth it in fart gas havocs either. You usually either push through the gas, or hole up in front of it. You move as a team, you having resistance doesn't matter to your team.>my gut says "my teammates NEVER kill tox bombers and the whole fucking map will be covered in gas if I don't get that kill first"This is true but you have a dog to do this, regardless of your weapon choice>he brought some inaccurate sniping-incapable weapon AND Lone WolfAre you Muslim?
>>574195213The skull still rotates with the camera, so that's only possible if you're afk.
>>574195635NTA but I think there is value in being able to hold space despite fart clouds, if your team has an advantageous position or something. Also I reckon it probably works against tox flamers as well? I only noticed recently that the similar skitarii talent does, anyway. I mostly agree with you but I'd rate it comfy++ if you're really going to think about how you use it and not dance in every gas cloud just because you can.
>>574195635I've got the dog and a bolt pistol. Sometimes I'm neck deep in crushers and don't have direct Los on the bomber
>>574196143the shot pistol + shield combo is very good for that situation. Well not crushers specifically, but it lets you whip that thang out and crack off shots while blocking the melee chaff around you.
>>574168726I want to believe, but probably fake.
>>574195873There is no value in being able to stand in fart clouds unmolested because you shouldn't be doing that in the first place. Pushing through farts near your team is also pointless, just pull out your gun. Rescuing someone in farts is a skill issue on the downed guy's part.It does not work against tox flamers. The skitarius talent also does not work agains tox flamers. They are flamer enemy damage, not corruption damage.The useful part of the talent is the corruption resistance. The fart resistance is just comfy but little else. You can build arbitrator to have ungodly amounts of toughness generation anyway, so running through a cloud and losing most of your toughness is inconsequential. If having little toughness is a problem for you, you should learn to slide more.
>>574194472I almost never take appreciable damage from tox gas. So long as there are enemies nearby you can sustain your toughness, and if there aren't you can sprint through it before it does health damage. On tox gas missions they stuff you with med stimms too. Rebreather is one of those training wheel nodes you could take but you're better off without like the dog.
>>574197149>spoilerLW mine shitter is the crutch build thougheverbeit.My condolences on being too Muslim to be able to micro the dog.
>>574196837>It does not work against tox flamers. The skitarius talent also does not work agains tox flamers.Huh, okay TY for correcting me, it really felt like I was just able to dance right through their fire with it on the skit, but I've also been doing all kinds of experimenting with resistances on my curios and stuff.>rescuing skill issueTrue but it's still something you gotta deal with and you're better off with him on his feet than dead.>There is no value in being able to stand in fart clouds unmolested ...Ever hear of a "choke-point", nonny? I don't know what you mean with the next part about pulling out the gun? Do you mean like a cloud is cutting you off from the rest of your team and you can't reach them without getting through it? And yeah of course the corruption resist is nice too, that's part of why it's comfy++ and not just "comfy".
>>574194343>>574194815personally dragor is better than morrow for me.There's not enough actual fun characters in the game the only ones that are actually fun are Kayex and Dragor.
>>574197359>I've also been doing all kinds of experimenting with resistances on my curios and stuff.Tangent: Any testing you do in the psykhanium is unreliable because your curios may not correctly update. All this server-authoritative validation bullshit doesn't work properly because fatshark can't into servers or validation, so you'll have to manually select a different build in the fucking mourningstar before loading into the meat grinder and then swapping builds AGAIN.I'm bringing this up because I've run into the same issue with testing curio damage resistances, and thought flamer/bomber resist wasn't working at all. It was just the psykhanium playing a trick on me. They do work, entirely, including on the puddles.>Ever hear of a "choke-point", nonny?You're an arbitrator, you're a walking choke point. You didn't take shitter stance, did you?
>>574197520Yeah I knew about the psykhanium being bugged, so only being able to feel it in real matches is why it probably confused me with the skit talent.>You didn't take shitter stance, did you?Sir we're having a civil conversation here, no need to insult me. I'm a "1 point in BTL" andy.
>>574177847>This is my general. When you see me posting you either back me up or step asideI tend to just ignore you like the village idiot you are.
Are trappers more bullshit than the vt2 counterpart?
>>574158676I just voice chat off but something about the idea of some random dude screaming in voice chat calling people retards is cringe as hell, even if he may be right and people really are retards.
>>574198007>can spawn without a sound, and fire the net without a sound, because the audio engine regularly breaks>nets you through a dense enough wall of armor that you can't even see through it, much less shoot through>around a corner through cover btwI'd say so
>>574184114Yeah, it'd be good if they added class specific callouts to the enemies.
>>574198007Lifeleeches can literally teleport behind you and somehow they're less bullshit than trappers shooting through walls of solid metal or a hundred enemies to net you.
>>574198007Yes, they're also way sneakier than both vt2 counterparts>barely make any noise compared to the rattle of the mancatchers and mancatchers had a big pole that stuck out if they were in a blob>lifeleeches would teleport but also make a big swoowsh noise and also before they teleported they'd just be standing around looking at you and being a big punching boxMost problems with the trapper are stemmed from darktide getting too big and crowded compared to vt2.
>>574197439Yin and yang.Morrow's, paraphrased, "You can't get in their heads, they're soldiers. A little funny looking maybe, but they'll get the job done." He doesn't have the highest opinion of us, but knows our capabilities, and overall has pride in the operation.The game needs that solid anchor, and he delivers.
>>574192216I can see her being apart of something else FatShart had under wraps then just went screw it and put her in>>574193372I have a soft spot for Hestia and Sefoni too but yeah
I will always be of the opinion that Fatshark is aware the trapper is garbagely designed and full of issues but they want it to be this way so people think twice about separating from the group. They don't want him balanced. They want him bullshit.
>>574198468>Morrow: "They're only rejects when they can hear me.">Zola: "The loyalty of the trenches, is it?">Morrow: "You wouldn't understand."
>>574198581for sure, contempt drives them
>>574198468Totally agreed. Whacky zany characters are cool and all but they need serious and grounded characters to contrast them as well and make them work best. The Necrons as a whole are probably the best example of this looking at other factions and the wider setting.
>>574198601kino
If demonheads are corrupted psykers then why do they melee us to death instead of use powerful psyker attacks?
>>574198581Trappers are easy to deal with as long as they aren't silent. They are pretty much the packrat from vermintide.
>>574198732>corrupted psykersPossessed, the means of attack is up to the daemon, not the psyker. It's a little weird that they never use warp sorcery, since that's something Nurgle's daemons are able to do. Must be a design choice by fatshark.
>>574198581trappers are aight so long as you don't get a double inside a horde where they line up right behind each other and shoot with a 0.3s offset
>>574198838I don't really care that you feel like this is an opportunity to flex or something, the point is that they are full of bullshit things like their sound not playing, spawning behind you, shooting through cover. Packrats had a myriad of different things that made them less retarded most of which people already mentioned just a few posts ago.
>>574198876>they never use warp sorceryThey use it to teleport
>>574198468>>574198601I agree but right now our only fun characters are kayex. Dragor's in two missions (not even in quickplay rotation) and everyone else is either srs bsns or "click X to sarcasm" tier. I like morrow, I just find dragor fun. Probably helps that I barely hear him so he still has some sheen to him for me.Personally my list goes Kayex DragorMorrow = Hadron RannickI do not care that much for the other dudes.
>>574194343>Sefoni is "Rest" tierNah, niggy
>>574198530>have a soft spot for HestiaI only have a hard spot for her
>>574199214I think OUR characters should be the ones saying sort of funny stuff. The lines are in the game, but they trigger so rarely with every game being an endless horde basically. Plus a lot of "you're missing one of the other 38 personalities for this thing to trigger".>>574199247Forgot Sefoni too, shit. Uhh she's above black hair cutie.
Stop talking about vt2 in the past tense the game is still alive and going.
>>574184793>also brought on a shit ton of amateurs that made mountains of game design 101 mistakes.What kills me is that they freely admit this. In that blog post they made late last year about designing an enemy, they were talking about how long it took because of various problems. Problems that, when you read them and saw that they actually implemented them to produce them and it wasn't just talk, no one who had ever made a video game before would actually make for themselves. Just troubling to read.
>>574199420I mean yeah duh that's obviously the actual correct answer but this is darktide we're not allowed the cure we're only allowed to treat the sympton and not the underlying issue.
>>574199271You like her because she gives you penances, I like her because she's the most likely to have a bush. We are not the same.
>>574199657It's probably clean and smells like incense due to her robes. Like Avignon. If you like that, you win. If you want stinky bush, then Zola. If you want neatly trimmed and extremely demanding, Dukane.
>decide to play veteran in auric>stance + MF>quickplay into team with 2 ogryns>figure this should be easy sniping>so you'd think>niggergryn A constantly runs around like a headless chicken and TOOOOOOOONKs with his shield>niggergryn B spams his nigger gauntlet knocking shooters over right as I line up a headshot (he NEVER does enough damage to kill ANYTHING and has the lowest damage on the entire team)>can't chain exec's stance properly because some fat faggot knocks over enemies right as I pull the trigger>can't keep marksman's focus at max stacks because I can't possibly land headshots when (see above)>can barely keep up my ammo economy on an already extremely efficient build because I have 2 fat retards appropriating it all for Israel and proceeding to do fuckall with it>neither one of them so much as pretended to take care of melee enemies ofc so I had to clear all the fucking chaff too>still take virtually no damage>still kill virtually every special>still 2-tap every crusher and bulwark in existenceVeteran is a relic from fucking 5 years ago when the game was still in development. What a piece of shit class having to jump through such so easily griefed hoops by well-meaning turbo retards.
I'm starting to get traumatized with the eviscerator. I know it's not the strongest but I love the weapon, but it feels like every elite if I dare to rev it some ranged teammate will just snipe it from afar. I've wasted so much accumulative time revving the chainsaw this way and then just spending it on trash because whops got sniped.
>>574200048>(he NEVER does enough damage to kill ANYTHING and has the lowest damage on the entire team)this is me, I don't understand how people shit out actual damage with the rumbler or grenadier gauntlet.
>>574199657
>>574200337
Prine can touch my butthole. With her tongue.
>>574199657>>574199813You just know Hallowette has a nappy rainforest down there
>>574200304The eviscerator would be good if they removed the hit slow down and movement penalties from it. This Honestly applies to most melee weapons and why a lot of them aren't viable in the high difficulties. Relic blade and pickaxe are literal handicap.
>>574200635Hallowette has an infected piercing down there
>>574200667That would be the hive scumette
>>574200662Isn't relic blade "meta" for book zealot
>>574200465thank you sah
>>574200304>>574200662eviscerator is my favorite melee weapon in the game but it became significantly worse when the shield fuckers got added in. Now you cant wide swing on a mob without hitting a big metal shield and having it stop your swing. Relic blade does feel like a total crutch that a lot of zealots are forced to use now and the warhammer feels awful imo. I like the chain axe but keep going back to the eviscerator
>>574200752Fuck no. Who gave you that idea? The best weapons are still dueling sword and tactical axe.
>>574201003The knife and combat axe are better
>>574143464>Why they did this when Vermintide did not, and a hive city covers far far far more space, I have no fucking clue.The original idea was that only a small part of the city is occupied by cultists. It's an uprising, not full blown war.But since the original team left, there is no vision, we could get whatever if only they had a budget (they don't, we will never get a new map, because there are no level designers working for darktide)
>>574201003Everyone.
>>574200752Relic blade is meta for a proper support zealot, because no other weapon functions anywhere near as well without support.>>574201003Tac axe is barely viable in havoc 40, what are you smoking?>inb4 asshurt auric warriors chiming inEverything is viable in your kiddie pool
Combat axe is the greatest weapon in the game. Discuss.
>>574201145>for a proper support zealotWhich is the only zealot that is "meta". Anything else is fucking around which is fine but not optimal.
>>574201186Haven't used it since before arbitrator launched.
>>574201268actually wait even further. Haven't used it since dueling sword got added to zealot.
>>574199214I don't give a FUCK how your list goes. I didn't ask.
>>574201546You did, actually.
>>574199060>trappers are aightit doesn't always feel that way
>>574201741Just saying. If I was in that situation, I wouldn't have been netted.
>>574201741>filenamelmao, do I really live in your head for that?
>>574202086Dude I had nightmares :(
>>574201254Crusher is also extremely powerful on support zealot, as neither the class nor the weapon are expected to deal much damage, so they synergize well. Great brittleness support, decent Skullcrusher support (it's better when someone else does it during chorus to rape bosses, but it's still good enough knocking everything over for the psyker to deal double damage).I'm not yet confident enough to call it "better than" relic blade, because it's kind of dependent on the players you have. Being able to actually deal at least enough damage to kill hordes and the occasional crusher is quite a big advantage that RB has.
>fall behind team as we run to the extraction elevator>Everyone else already inside>Burster spawns just as I am approaching >Shove it>It stumbles into the elevatorHeh... Nothing personnel...
>>574200465you take both??
>>574202127I didn't mean to!Anyway on further thought, the net probably doesn't detect collision boxes on map geometry because it's supposed to be able to go through enemies (???) and fatshark didn't program in a distinction between collision boxes for enemies and map geometry.
>>574202245Yes, it lets you maintain burn stacks on bosses after PBB runs out, and you were taking the node before the burn anyway. It's just 1 point for better burn efficiency across the board.
>>574202268kek, no worries. You might be on to something. But I highly doubt fatshark will ever change it.
>>574202341It's weird, because the same kind of programming goes into distinguishing between hit boxes for armor, weakpoints and objects like shields.
>>574202268No. It's just that the net probably has two hurtboxes like most attacks.A bigger one that is reactive when a player isn't dodging, or has just collided with a wall, ending the dodge.And a smaller one that's reactive also on dodging players (hence dodging backwards doesn't work, which I'd guess also makes the net disappear if it hits map geometry.The smaller one will definitely be a lot smaller than the actual model for the net and thus it can graze the wall without disappearing.
Someone make a new thread before I piss myself.
>>574202651It's better to teach a lesson, so I'm not gonna
Someone help me piss before I piss myself.
>>574202309>it lets you maintain burn stacks on bosses after PBB runs outHow does this shit work?PBB maxes out at 16 stacks and the other one at 8 stacks. It should not work?But I heard it works with noosy too even though noosy is 8 stacks max too. I dont understand.Does it work the same way with shriek? Can you maintain extra shriek stacks?
>>574198876>>574198732They aren’t psykers, just regular people most likely, all of their abilities are the result of daemon stuff
>>574199657>>574199813>>574200635Which is nice and smooth?
New>>574203389>>574203389
>join a mission in progress>immediately have to play solo to make my way to 3 people in chains
>>574203372Hadron.
>>574177092>>574176792I’m more than positive there’s statements putting Terra in the trillions too, so it comes down to interpretation or whichever one your prefer
