>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=688635449342696590>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>573989573
why can dynamo press 4 while being carried by a flying ivy
Sex with Venator
>tfw the worst player in your stack notices you each got paired with randoms and swaps lanes with you
>tfw the gimmick build you made 3 minutes prior to queuing is actually working
>play rem cause i like being an asshole>seemingly shit damage even when going pillow build>healing is decent but not good enough in pisslow where people don't call out ganks or join teamfights>gun is actually good but somehow becomes worse if you build on it even mildlyI don't know what I'm doing wrong
Like half of my lobbies have a woman in them, why? I thought women hated mobas
>>574086501Doesn't League have a fuckton of e-girls though?
>Pocket and shiv share the same VA
what was she dreaming about?
>>574086501a lobby the other day had a black woman playing calico on my team she understandably rage quit after we started horribly losing due to our kelvin superfeeding their mina in lanedeadlock might be the most diverse game
will shiv ever not be bullshit to fight
Borgor
I love spirit drifter rendmaxxing so much. Its not actually better than the normal build but chunking someone for 60% of their HP with a single rend is so fun
they should make all auto aim items and abilitys like slowing hex or doorman and mokrill ult into skill shots.the view on the movementslop would change overnight for it to be nerfed
>>574087535Yeah man just make slowing hex have to land on the triple disjoint mina that can wall bounce around and float good idea
>>574086979He's pretty bad right now. Buy slowing hex, buy antiheal. Focus him down all at once. GGIf youre 1v1ing him and dont have the ability to kill him in under 10 seconds then yeah youre going to die because bleed stacking is just his strongest power
>>574086501Deadlock has some cool women hero designs, most other games are either cringe or bimbos
New vampire hero when???
>>574087535>They should make it so your ability to deal with something is way worse>Then people would start agreeing with me when I want it nerfed
My damage stats after a win as m1 bebop are 26% bomb and 20% melee. Only spirit item is bullet resist shredder and curse. I think my ass just cannot aim.Alright man show me the Bebop melee build.
If you are oracle, you will never be phantomIf you are phantom, YWNBAIf you are ascendant, YWNBEIf you are eternus, YWNBE6If you are e6, YWNBNS (you will never be a nigshifter)If you are a nigshifter, you will never be championIf you are champion, you won't be in the future when there's pros who actually know how to playIf you're posting from the future with pros who know how to play, you won't be on top foreverAt least one of these are completely correct in any given argument by default. Therefore, no matter what your retarded opinion is, I don't care and I'm right.I trust my own intuition more than any single nigger who plays this game.
>>574088762
>does your 4 button stun the entire enemy teamno>are you wraith, callico, victor or hazenoyou lost
>>574088762>>574089057Put some respect on her nameShe'll be nerfed again soon enough
I wish silver was a werehyena so she could rape my ass while in hyena form
>>574088762>>574089057>AWOOOO-AAACCCKKCKCKKK
>>574089169>wraith, callico, victor or hazethese are all weak heroes though
Imagine if Street Brawl was actually random and you weren't practically guaranteed to get the same preselected items for each character every fucking time.
>>574089169my 4 button>has complete invulnerability while casting>refreshes all my abilities>heals on kill and timer refreshes on kill>gives me 60% full damage resist>makes my cast times instant>gives me unstoppable>gives me movement speed>and also gives my shotgun weapon +7 damage
>>574089981Oh, I think this guy is talking about Abrams!
>play brawl>paige in 50% of matcheshow come when it was seven brawl got a balance patch within a week or so but paige gets to be in every game and rape using bookwyrm for months? she sucks in the main mode yeah but you can't even push in brawl against her because she just annihilates every wave
>>574089169my 4 button antiheals the entire enemy team does that count for something
>>574088523nvm melee bebop is a complete meme, utterly worse than m1 in every way
>>574090683>>574088523pure melee is bad just build some melee items while also going spirithttps://files.catbox.moe/p6vcxn.mp4
>>574088523Melee build bebop just means like snatch lifestrike. You still go your core spirit items. Crushing fist is good after you get witchmail too.
If haze, seven, victor, doorman are on the enemy team I literally just dont want to play at all so I finally made the decision to stop playing this shit and havent for a week. Idk how valve managed to make a game worse than overwatch,rivals,league, and dota 2. Impressively shit devsAlso the movement tricks are gay
why are almost all the "pros" who play this game such insufferable faggots with huge egoszerggy seems to be the only exception, yeah he's a bit cringe in his own way but at least he seems chill and actually enjoying himself
I've started banning Graves again. Tired of apes that don't understand matchups and end up feeding her 5 kills in lane.Some dumbfuck Infernus kept trying to do flame dash trades just to end up rooted gaped and raped.
>>574091586>snatch lifestrikethose are the two items you dont build because of the light melee gimmick
>>574092114Nah they're both good enough to buy when slot locked and there are times you heavy melee.
>>574087769>If youre 1v1ing him and dont have the ability to kill him in under 10 seconds then yeah youre going to dieHMMM I SURE WONDER IF SHIV HAS AN ABILITY THAT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TO BURST HIM DOWN
thanks yoshi u fucking fraudalso thanks doorman for wasting ulti on a 3v1 then dying when the enemy shows up
>>574093672Oh you mean the ability that antiheal negates? That one? The one that barely does anything if he isnt at rage so he's easy to burst down? Yeah
>>574093980The amount of retard doormans that ult someone we're about to kill is insane. It's like they're just excited to finally use their ult because they're too stupid or scared to use it on their own
>>574093980should probably just leave this game even though its 192k 200k because my team wont go for mid on picks anyway they're afraid haze is gonna get a tower in base MUST DEFEND when we stand 4 mid
like fuck this nigger shit how are you supposed to play with these dogs losing to a lowest net graves taking 3 walkers because they're afk in jungle
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>574092346You almost always heavy melee after hooking someone and therefore wasting the item effects on the light melee.
so are YOU going to keep playing when valve comes out and says there ending development like artifact and dota underlords?
matchmaking update when
>>574094956The game deserves to die after cultivating a fanbase of Tumblr refugees
>play silver>shut enemy completely down first waves>lose lane because my bebop isnt securing souls or denyingwow
>>574086501>tfw my dreams of getting a deadlock (biological) gf are possible
>>574094956i genuinely just went back to overwatch nowi don't think i've found any of their designs decitions past the removal of 4 lanes to be any fun in the long term. the new urn IS better than the old one but that's only because the old one was genuinely one of the most unbalanceable objectives i've ever seen in these games
another free loss gg
xddd
Silver is like Shiv if his ult had a 60% health threshold and a 60s cooldown.
gg another lane loss because my laning nigger is terrible and i 2v1 people into 20% but cant hit a single shot
>>574096092>>574095608>>574095391(real) Rank matchmaking WILL fix all the problems you're having right now
>>574095919so truenerfs soon
Why ragdoll physics are so shit in this game?People just fold in halfI thought Source 2 supposed to be good
>>574096471they're literally peak >>574088762
>>574089169Can you believe people actually play this game
>victor lowest net in tgamewhat did they mean by this
>>574097097ah i see now hes retarded hes turning off aura in fights and doing 0 dmg because he probably has no idea it CHARGES his 1 and ESCALATESwow i love this mmr
I HECKIN LOVE SPIRIT SLOP aND MOVEMENT SLÖP
>>574097532Literally just walk away.
SinclairGODs... are we looking forward to, or dreading the total kit overhaul?
dont worry the matchmaking update will fix everything!
fucking incredible people just walk into 3 rejuvs oujtside of base and diewhy does valve allow low iq niggers to play this game
>>574096092my laning buddy btwincredible yoshi, absolutely incredible
>>574095336hahahahahahaha
>>574096092people like this should have their femurs broken with a sledgehammer
>>574098463How do you even do this little damage as Celeste?
>>574085989Careful Silver
>retards near me fell for the Chinese pysop and banned data centers so I will always have shit pingAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HOW DO I PERSONALLY SMACK EVERYONE OF THEM
>>574099293>>574099238just help him out by ganking his lane :)
Girl who stinks good
im watching my echo shard slowing hex haze miss 2 sleeps from invis on a stationary targetwhat is this
>>574099238>>574099293I do this
online soon
>>574097584
Are these items good to hit 4.8k gun on Rem?>1.6k: mystic shot, opening rounds, recharging rush, spirit shredder bullets>3.6k: alc flask, ballistic enhancement, heroic aura, spirit rend
/dlg/, what are you blasting at full volume during street brawl?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6epMQlNWtI
>>574099840this absolute star of a teammate goes 1v6 with ulti and dies and leaves us to fight 5v6, eventually lose that, mid and rift in a span of 1 minutegreat job teammate
>>574099840Sorry sucka.
>>574098131>calls other people low iq>also calls other people niggersIronic
>>574100213i'm sure the nigger blogging during a game is doing much better
what is the point of express shot? im being dead serious
>dont take mid>win fights>retards run away>enemy takes midi cant dude i dont wanna play this nigger game anyh mroe
>>574099928Mystic shot bad because he has low velocity Spirit shredder bullets bad because the spirit lifesteal is a wasteBallostic enhancement is just worst than greater expansion because you want range for everything Spirit rend is bad because it takes 12s to apply
>play grey talon>game crashes from a corruption error and forces me to reinstall>this has happened twiceguess I cant play abuela
>>574100586It used to be to cheese with vicious then it used to be cheese for silver ultIt’s a dps decrease but turns your m1 into a cooldown basically, if people actually used cover then it it would be good but it’s just not how fights happen usually
>>574099053how would you living near a data center be anything but negatives for you? even any infastructure for improved internet would 100% be for the data center while people would be hard limited on it
>>574100909Here is another one that fell for the psyopThat’s not how it works, the infrastructure upgrade would benefit me. It is a genuine honest to god china op and I encourage you to store and spread the word so I can have peekers advantage
>>574100854Cover is useless when half the spells in the game are AOEs that ignore walls
>>574101097Yea and it doesn’t compress enough ammo to warrant a hit and run playstyle like pocketIdk if I would want it to either because those types don’t need any help
>>574094956>toe strap leggings>that 4 ability iconok i kinda fw thisbut seriously everything about this game feels fvcking deadthe general was popping a few months ago but now everyone just seems so bored and tired of the bullshitalso i had a dream about Deadlock last night and it made me imagine the game if it wasn't a MOBA and honestly the grass was greener and i can't go back
>>574100056Deadlock plays best with some smooth Jazzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUkyCASNtSw
>fighting for rift left side>my rem is dying solo to a kelvin on the other side of the map>full heal buildwhat the fuck is wrong these niggers just sit on someonmem
>>574102138you need to babysit a lane since nobody else will and this made me stop playing supports or anyone who needs kills like drifter
>>574099928opening rounds, heroic aura, and alch fire are goodrecharging rush is kind of shit unless you also have headhunter
>>574102261nah they're just bad
"They do lots of things!", Rem yelled as he directs a chudling to crawl into your ear
Literally never contest memerift and push walkers constantly, it's that easy.
ive lost so many games im in ritualist 1 games even though my rank says em 4 im not sure this is how you do matchmaking yoshi i get worse and worse teammates and im supposed to carry these "people" or what?
deadlock gets a shota character instead of a loli because its for FAGGOTS
>can we swap i wanna play with my gfanother game down the drain
Item frequency image, graves edition Some of the echoshard are bound to wall instead, I just combined them
>>574103368don't swapstay in her lane and mog the bf
>>574103368>bf/gf premade>high/drunk guy>tilted guy on massive losing streakEvery match is the same
>hmm I'm gonna learn venatornow I'm one full rank down and I still have negative k/d
>>574103231now im playing in a game so bad im 10-0 at 10 min and have taken a walkerim sure yoshis gonna find a way for me to lose this game thoughb
>>574104341still cant get my team to go mid a single timeits literally over we need a clippy assistant telling these niggers how to play the game
mid? hello team?
>>574105213spam ping mid
>>574102907Silver spottedshe cute
>>574105364I CANT THIS DOGSHIT MUTE SYSTEM REMOVES ANY FUCKING COMMS UNLIKE DOTA WHERE ITS JUST PREVENTS YOU FROM TYPING
every fucking street brawl it's just a grey talon raping everyone
>>574105325>>574105213Did you use your pause? If not, use it and give a pep talk to the retards farming.Sometimes I have to use it in lane when my mate is taking retarded trades or literally not doing anything, not even shooting the creeps.
>tfw you've won too many games in a row and might actually start climbing>time for Yoshi to roll the STOMP SPECIALSo is valve going to get rid of engagement based matchmaking in the next patch, or is this it forever?
>>574106018its the absolute worst shit i just lost 3 or 4 games in a row where i played really well and now i got put into a game where i go 15-0 easily and the enemy has 15-20 deaths eachlike the FUCK is this
>>574106325not enough players please understand
>>574105871You can get pause restricted for this btw.
might go back to playing dota finishing my ff7rb platinumthis games genuinely terrible
Invest in Return Fire stocks before it moons.You heard it here first.
>>574107404Fought a melee Doorchud with Return Fire yesterday, what a cunt
>>574107404they havent patched instant death celeste light eater return fire right?
>>574107404Sorry I’m still holding my disarm bags. Why don’t people see the superiority of low cd actives?one day…
>>574106325I don't know why it seems like theres always one team that seems like it was designated the shitter team. It makes your skill feel irrelevant half the time.>>574106375And of the few players, half are queued together. There's just NO WAY we can balance it right now.
How much bullet resist do you need to be dealing with for glass cannon to result in less damage than crippling headshot?
>>574108313>buying bullet resist>buying any anti-gun itemyou'll never make it out of seeker like this
>>574108510Try reading.
>>574108313Gc is better if it’s a 1v1 and the enemy has less than 80% resistance This assumes headshots and doesn’t account for the shred benefiting your whole team or additional stats beyond weap damage
gonna claw my way back to phantom!
how does anyone lose with zergy on their team dudes fucking cracked
>>574108895Zerggy are you really such a broke nigga you need to shill on this dead thread?
>>574109613He can’t even afford a real mouse, are there any pros from real games that use that ball garbage? I can’t think of any
>>574110102hi zergs, yes, your mouse ball sucks dickyou can fuck off now
I'D HIDE IF I WERE YOU! *zap zap zap zap*
>>574110354Irrefutable evidence that deadlock requires no aim. If denies ever stopped being fake he’d drop to ascendant overnight
I tried watching that mouseball using freak and he gave off big metro diddy epstein vibes so I stopped watching the stream
Does anybody have the Kamikaze Ivy build?
Rapeable vampire
>>574110832Mina Honk*
>my shiv has no items in lane>find out hes rushing decay as very first item>lose
>>574111089I've seen this a couple times.Why the fuck is there a trend to rush decay?
>>574110786>Kamikaze Ivyno idea how that works but you can max stoneform and build EE, Scourge, Echo, Duration ,CDR, Witchmail, other slots filled with random green shit and eshiftignore torment because it does 0 damage
>>574109613i mean legit look at this shit
I saw this on /v/. Is this real?
>>574111449you ult, find a pack of retards, drop bomb, dive in, shit out everything, die a glorious death
>>574111917that's normal vacuum combo though?
>>574111731about as real as Ivy's chesticles
>load into brool game>unholy rape for 2 rounds, team getting slaughtered, enemy team very much obvious significantly, effortlessly better>lighthearted jokes and fun from my team while getting raped>round 3, I choose to just afk at spawn because result is obvious>my team goes apeshit on me in chat for choosing not to get raped along with them in the 3rd round can someone explain this psychology to me, please? there's an uphill type of game then there's just a clear matchmaking bug that's unscalable
>>574111731no it was made by a twitter account called "super legit deadlock leaks" who also posts things like billy getting the ability to graze on patches of grass
>>574112123>get raped for 2 rounds>force round 3 to last 10 minutes>rape the tired and demoralized "winners">take the next 2 rounds with pure flowyou're just like the fags asking for a surrender button
>>574112405read the last part of my post very, very slowly this timeI've had those types of games constantly and this was not that, my teammates were feeding into 3 enemies and dying within 5 seconds of letting go of the magic rope
>>574112045ough~
>>574111231Bomb Geist syndrome (also known as terminal tankbusteritis) big number on score board
>>574089012>muh rank
>>574112204>billy getting the ability to graze on patches of grasskino
I want to FUCK and CUM inside Paige
>>574113134You already do that every day, Warden.
>>574112561that doesn't matterif your fags are deadass retarded you leave spawn and teabag their corpses together with the enemy team
gunpollo is really strong if your target wants to fight backif someone just walks away then you literally cannot do anything lol
>>574111491>cheats
>>574113178let's see what this dick can do
I like the way the female characters scream in this game but not in a sexual way
Spiritual Overflow feels good on Doorman but I’m wondering if I’m having a survivor bias as this shit just keeps working out for me
At what rank do I stop getting braindead teammates?
>>574112123>quitting on the last round because you're skill gapped while the rest of the team keeps playingYou are the definition of raped. If they are raped, you are turbo raped.
>>574113246Sounds like you made space, you don’t have to chase people down. They will fight on rift/walkers/midAlso idk if that’s totally true, you have enough mobility to stick to people if you can manage the low velocity with an item or leading your shots
>>574113764oracle (after next weeks rework)
>>574098131I just wish Sinclair didn’t have such shit mods that keep trying to have some weird ass Two Face gimmick
>>574099053The droning noises alone would have you wanting to off yourself even if you got 99GBs speeds man
>>574113814the strong m1ggers are the ones who have free slows like haze, wraith, victor who will just m1 you down without an escapethe weak m1ggers are ones who are close range duelists like venator and apollo, who have no way of preventing you from just holding W in the opposite direction
>>574114171I ran an asic in my closet for a year, sounded like a lawnmower. I’ll be fine
>>574112123>Obvious ESL wondering why other people enjoy playing video games outside of winning and don't want to just give up and roll over like dogs (for the last like two minutes of a short match as well) when they're on the backfootHm...curious.
>>574086501because you're pisslow. literally not a thing at eternus lmao
>>574112123>play gambling casual mode>lose gamble>take it to heart and give upthat next item selection would’ve had a legendary btw
>>574113764>braindead teammatesActually it's decided by the characters, you cannot fail with a meta char
>>574113764never
so why wouldn't this work
>>574115161The tickler
go mid or overstay? hmm
>>574115359this is what your rends do every 5.7s. maybe tank buster is a meme because ideally you'd be melting someone with decay + mark before you hop in and rend so tankbuster wouldn't realistically be doing much. maybe you replace it with mystic slow or something
le epic spirit slop
>>574115536your build gets completely obliterated by dispel magic or even just them getting on a zipline.
>>574115721spirit resilience + spellbreaker
>>574115721>pick abrams ivy apollo>buy witchmail>infinite CDs
>>574115721Eat your greens lil nigga
play deadlock or jerk off? hmm
>>574115942you see -48%?
>>574116138What are you jerking off to?
>>574116170ah shit i didn'twell gg have fun
>>574115721>sticky bombsur counterspell??>Storm cloud>Lashwhy didn't you get behind something
>my haze never shows up to anything for 40 min>amasses some networth>never does anything with it>spec him at the end of the game when im dead>he cant even aim properly at creepsshit was so sad it looked like he was playing on controller
Buff Kelvin ice beam.
>>574091793If youre talking about streamers they kinda have to be insufferable dramatic faggots since acting like a normal human being doesn’t get you views, if youre talking about high elo fags it’s because they’re addicted to the game that being getting robbed of their victory dopamine hit is like getting punched in the cock to them and can clearly state why they could’ve totally won that no really it wasn’t my fault bro seriously it was the fucking Kelvin bro he didn’t use the meta build John McEnterus said was the best he fucking threw man I reported him twice
Spirit spam is still king, even m1ggers deal mostly spirit damage.
>>574115161First I buy dispel and if for some reason you still get farmed I buy witchmail
M1slop is still king, even spiritchads are lowered to buying mostly gun items.
all movespeed slows are completely pointless if it doesnt slow dash speed aswell
A magic portal enables (You) to find (You)r main's Spotify. What're they listening to?
>>574115161it would if you somehow don't have 4 other spirit builds on your teamI'm going to build anti-spirit items and you're going to do nothing outside of the tankbuster proc
>>574116530you can buy dispel, your team won't. I'll rape them instead.
so tired of gun meta
so tired of buttplug meta
After watching a ton of eternus players I've determined mokrill has the highest skill ceiling
why did negress girlboss ms shelly give bebop sticky bombs if he works in a scrap yard
>>574117920Lives in a scrapyard
>>574108510why disarming hex winrate is so low?
>>574113784>>574114401so it really is just crab mentality for not getting raped alongside you, okay lol>>574114631legendaries appear in round 4-5 lol
Deadlock fighting game
jeet brawl is such a rigged gamemode notice how the enemy team suddenly gets good items round 3 so the game goes on longer
VitGODS are still king, both peepee spirit and poopoo gun damage cucks are still kneeling to buy green items.
>>574118017Because m1gger heroes are bad and trying to counter them is a waste of souls
>>574118017I assume it’s because it’s only purchased after the rape and not before hand. It’s kind of crazy because it has like 50% uptime
legit just solod 3 people do you think my team went mid with me? nah because yoshi decided i cant communicate
>>574118440and now the enemy got mid off 1 pick! (me)excellent job yoshi
it has now been 2 weeks from yoshis post that we would be getting a matchmaking, item shop, or new content update 2-3 weeks from the post
one day they will kill all mods and remove last ember of soul from game
>matchmaking update comes out>it makes the game worse and they have to revert itcannot wait
Does anyone have a good only green items mokrill build?
>>5741185622 weeks equals 2 months in Valve time.
did you know this game is so dead in asia server that phantoms are in the top 1000 highscores
>>574118679>implying they'd revert it
>>574118902they reverted the dumb urn changes
I'm tired of trying to make gun builds work and I'm just bored at this point.I'm bored of trying to shoot through 10k eHP with 25 bullets and two reloads.I'm tired of being reduced down to 30% total damage just because the enemy bough Inhibitor and Plate.I'm tired of Crippling Headshot being completely fucking useless.I'm tired of all the gun items only being 'on' some of the time.I'm tired of being CC'd from 100 to 0 even though I have 40% Debuff Resist, Unstoppable, and Counter Spell.I'm tired of gun leech being complete garbage. Vampiric is no good for anything other than fire rate and ammo.I'm tired of needing perfect aim and tracking against targets that jump around in the sky like Fortnite characters and spam AoEs in my general direction.I'm tired of not having my balls sucked by Yoshi. This is unacceptable.
>>574118679I was thinking it might be received poorly at first because the player base won’t jump until the content drop, no matter the system changes if you have low players the mm will suck, might even get worse if the split the qIt’ll be good after the big patch tho
i literally do not see how this game survives without them at least adding a solo Q optionliterally nothing else matters
>>574119138Spam infernus
>>574119283I member when ranked became solo only and most the streamers started freefallingGood times
why is rem perma fucking banned
>>574119283Dota has that, why doesn't deadlock?
>people are banning heros in fucking initiate Why i thought this was the 4fun elo?
>>574119532It's the most competitive as they are all trying to escape
>>574119138>>25 bullets and two reloads.>he fell for the "titanic mag is for seekers don't buy it or you're a poopoohead" meme>>Crippling Headshot being completely fucking useless.Correct, just get inhibitor if you need the antiheal. gun shred is irrelevant>>I'm tired of being reduced down to 30% total damage just because the enemy bough Inhibitor and Plate.Inhibitor applies to spirit characters too you know? And plated armor can be hard countered, unlike fucking juggernaut which you need 12k worth of firerate to break even against>gun lifesteal complete garbageYou don't build lifesteal until your damage output is high enough to get any use out of it. If your gun only does 200dps, you'll get so little lifesteal the enemy can just sneeze in your direction and negate all of it. Active reload's lifesteal is enough until you have the damage you need for lifesteal to be effective
my gun warden wish 0 lifesteal and 0 damageepic
titanic mag 6.4k upgrade should be the infinite mag from street brawl>but that would be unbalancedidc
>>574101694a little too smooth, personally
What elo does building veil walker on every hero stop working?
graves with enhanced heroic aura is the funniest shit i have ever seen
>>574119675Doubling ammo is nice but it doesn't change the fact its a 10s+ TTK and the enemy just deletes you with spirit and CC while you're waiting
>>574118976a dogshit matchmaking algorithm is a hill they have already died on multiple times (every version of counter-strike past source, dota2, etc.)
>>574086501Imagine being in a rank where there are foids. Embarrassing. I wouldn't admit that myself.
the only thing that can save deadlock now is white mina
>>574086972did she do that mmm hmmm thing?
>>574120225no more embarrassing than admitting you're afraid of women
>>574116179ay caramba
enemy nigger viscous saving ltierally fucking everyone im killing im so sick of this cubve whore
Why do sinclairs always focus me to steal my ult when I play graves? Some of them even say something in all chat about it trying to rub it in. Even I don't want the shitty ult its practically useless now.
>>574120382Afraid of what?The average untrained dude is stronger than the foid who visits the gym every day, so it can not be that.The average untrained dude is faster than the foid who goes on a run every morning, so it can not be that.The average untrained dude is smarter than the foid who hits the books every evening, so it can not be that.The only threat a woman may pose towards me are her possibly infected holes when I have my forcey funtime. Other than that, there is nothing to be afraid of, and a man who is actually scared of them is failed and may as well transition.
Didn't read
>>574121075lot of woman-like prattle just to eventually confirm you're afraid of women
>>574121075t. afraid of women
>>574121272>>574121273>non-sequiturThis is why women should be property again.
this silver experiement might be overor it doesnt even matter because people are braindead who knowsi havent played bad a single game so far
>>574121445Doesn't matter if you play good or not, the hero does literally nothing. You can be 10/0 at 10 minutes and still end up with 0 impact.
>>574120992it's sinclair, "wasted" ults don't matter because they have 10sec cooldown
already lost a lane because my lane buddy didnt help parrying and i took 4 heavys thanks nigger
>>574121437>look at me I will post about how much I definitely dont fear women I definitely am not afraid of women ok??>WTF I JUST SAID IM NOT AFRAID OF WOMEN WHAT IS THIS NON-SEQUITURImagine never having loved or been loved by a woman not obligated to. What a sad "man".
>>574121743let me guess, you're a paige trying to solo burgerbox against billy and abrams and your lane partner is a talon flying in the air tired of your shit?
>>574121075i'm 25 and my gf is 16 and i agree
>>574121951lol this cumdumpster is seething with rage, nice work >>574121437 anon
>>574121951If I encounter foids in my game, I feed.And there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.Stop forcing me to play bad.
Nerf ShivNerf BillyNerf MirageNerf YamatoNerf Grey talonRework ShivRework SinclairBuff VenatorBuff GravesBuff ParadoxBuff SilverThere, fixed 'edlock for ya.
>>574121445Silver is unable to solo carry or even use the soul advantage in the endgame.
>vyper ults the target im killing
i was the reason we lost the game. feel like killing myself
>>574122182>>574122250Sad and jewed "men".
>>574121951>Imagine never having loved or been loved by a woman not obligated to. What a sad "man".WHY AM I CATCHING STRAYS?
>>574122168>"burger box"gb2 twitch chat
>>574122392Just remember, the fact that you're even capable of recognizing that makes you better than 99% of this thread.
yeah gg i secured 5 kills in my lane and i still lost because my vyper is a nigger gg
>dynamo player starts complaining about anythinglol
>>574086501Is there a Satanist, who tells Yamato to STFU in her face?
>playing street brawl. win first two rounds easily>struggle to eventually lose the third round>one teammate starts rapidly firing off spanish. she's a peruvian monkey>another teammate starts rapidly firing off chinese. he's a chink>barely manage to win on the 5th round after having to bulldozer the other team like 4 times because of obnoxious legendary items like prismnever queueing up at this hour ever again
>>574085597Which hero is the best to go full green?I wanna be a useless piece of shit, who is being chased endlessly by 6 annoyed motherfuckers, while my team is doing MidBoss unperturbed.
>pretending woman are anything but horrendous at deadlockI hopped off my alt onto my eternus main and the only foid I ever get is that boosted vivikinz who only stacks/duos with predscan guysI literally cannot imagine being in subhuman elo to keep getting women on my team LMAO
theres women on tiktok making videos on deadlock
>someone says maybe we can go midYESSSSSS!! LETS GO!!!!>no... green is pushing in>as im ziplining to it and they're 3 dead and they're 5 coming from rift (which means its pushing in the opposite side)so close........
>>574123154geist or victor. both can rat with full green and need to be killed twice essentially and can shrug off a lot of shit (life drain/jumpstart)
new mo and krill build coming straight out of my nigger games
>>574123167the twitch vtuber I watch solo climbed to oracle 5 on gun graves
>>574120057you're building shit items if it takes you 10 seconds to kill someone
Melee should be buffed and given items so it's on par with gun/spirit as a damage type.
>>574123154Mirage>free plated armor that stacks with plated armor>scarabs heal and reduce enemy dmg>mark will eventually kill them>can teleport directly into the enemy base
>haven't played deadlock in 5 days since the game's MM is so shit>decide to play a match>get absolutely rapedHonestly, if you play this game serious in any capacity you're spiritually a nigger. Well time to play punch Rem and ragebait my teammates
>all your ults are single target or just utlity>all their ults are giant aoe stun damage circles of death>losevery complex and deep game
>>574124072yeah the rift is a guaranteed loss depending on your draft if both teams are alive. At least with rejuv you can cheese it and steal it.
>>574123854Well then explain what I'm supposed to use, because I've literally used everything. I've even sat in testing with the DPS meter on and brute forced my way to a 2000+ DPS build - it's all fucking useless in an actual game.The only thing that let's you get away with it is if the enemies buy no greens or counters. Whether or not the build works at all isn't even up to you.
Remove the rift already
Rift is like street brawl except your team doesn't show up most of the time
Another V**** tier list what do we think Silver sisters>Fuck this hero bro, on God. Fuck the Silver community first and foremost, this is the most toxic, whiny community next to Shiv, if not above. I get more harassment from the Silver community than any community in the game, ever. You guys are extremely biased because of - I don't even wanna talk about it, but you all know why. You're extremely biased, and whenever Silver is not SS+ tier, you guys literally assault and harass me when I say Silver is OP and should be nerfed. Silver was the number one hero in the game for 3 months, I went on a tier list and said Silver is OP which is objectively a fact. I got all these death threats and harassment from all these Silver players over getting the character nerfed from S+ to like, A. Your community is so whiny, if the community is gonna be this whiny then the devs are gonna have an impossible time balancing the game because when things like Shiv get a rework and get slightly nerfed everyone bitches so hard they get reverted and it goes right back to being S tier. This character is broken, it's not fun to play against, it's just a poor design with too many things built in. It's not fair, it's not balanced. Somehow the same person that made Silver made Graves and Mina and Paige. Fuck this hero, this hero is literally just cancer to the game. I don't wanna play against SIlver, I don't wanna play against Mirage, I don't wanna play against Billy
>>574124323no
>>574124072I love too how they keep designing objectives to cater to AoE slop and force you to play KoTH against them.
>>574124848>be retarded tranny>spread lies that get a mediocre hero nerfed>get called out>cry about being harassedWhat the fuck is wrong with these trannies?
>>574123786UNLUCKY I GUESS MY FAULT I LOST MB YOSHI ILL GO WATCH REPLAY AND LEARN
>>574124848I mean, yeah, people in this very general were shitting on Silverfags before the hero even came out for being whiny trannies.
>>574124730so how is that different?
>>574124848>seven>b tier>silver>s tierThis guy has to be joking, right?
>>574124848He's 100% right thoughever, the #1 Silver guy here is a schizophrenic who has spammed the thread for hours a day six months straight now.
>>574124848>I don't wanna play against SIlverWhy, it's free lane?
Item frequency, Sinclair edition Top 10 Sinclair from eu and na respectively, most recent game, singles excluded
>>574123786>>574125119niggas playing in initiate
>>574125456Free game too, it's literally impossible to lose against Silver unless the other 5 heroes carry her. 7v5 games are so easy they're almost no fun, maybe that's his issue.
>>574125553thats what im getting matched with in emissary every gameimpossible to climb
>>574125456Probably because the hero wins any 1v1 for the 20-30 minutes after lane and is rewarded for running it down brainlessly
Rift is good actually
>>574125683How do you lose 1v1 against silver? Are you bad or something?
There are few people more disingenuous than Vindicta downplayers.
so tired of spirit meta
>>5741257871/2 a year of this btw
>>574118829There's this one OCE dude I know who is eternus from playing there and he queues EU to try find more competitive games and he winds up going like 0-7 in lane and turbo raging literally every match.
>>574126075Yeah, half a year of "people" still struggling to fight silver. How are you this bad at the game?
>>574125119>Teammate goes double digit deaths>"Clearly this is indicative of your skill"Very good system. Totally not schizophrenic and totally better than just matching peoples ranks.
>>574123816>oracle V>new player elowhy tell me this useless information
>>574126545Nta but gun graves is the best way to play her(really it’s hybrid until late game then gun)
>silver is S+++ tier she's so strongWhy?>SHE JUST IS!!!Why are trannies like this?Silver is an IQ check hero, if you're low IQ you will struggle against her.
>>574126905>Silver is an IQ check heroCorrect, except it's for the user and not the enemy. Hence why her winrate steadily increases as ranks go up and people actually know how to play. The average Silver player is a retard that's awful at the game and dragging her winrate down.
>No movement bug fixes>No casual queue>No rank reset>Buff haze so she can 1-shot any hero because some efaggot died and got assblasted>Sub50k player count peakThanks I guess.
>>574127378Keep coping, low IQ shitter. No one with an IQ above 100 struggles against silver. The hero does literally nothing unless you let it kill you over and over again.
>>574127378I noticed you didn't even try to explain why the hero is strong. Almost like you know the hero isn't good.
>>574127378truke
>>574126905>Silver is an IQ check heroYes, if you pass the IQ check, you don't play Silver.
>>574127685>posting yourself bug abusingcool?
silver is hard countered by the zipline
>>574127767holy bot tracking
>silver upplayers triggered againWhy are they like this? Why do they insist this mediocre at best hero is actually super op?
>>574127767>average_haze_player_aim.webm
>>57412753454k isn't sub 50k
Fuck this hero bro, on God. Fuck the Silver community first and foremost, this is the most toxic, whiny community next to Shiv, if not above. I get more harassment from the Silver community than any community in the game, ever. You guys are extremely biased because of - I don't even wanna talk about it, but you all know why. You're extremely biased, and whenever Silver is not SS+ tier, you guys literally assault and harass me when I say Silver is OP and should be nerfed. Silver was the number one hero in the game for 3 months, I went on a tier list and said Silver is OP which is objectively a fact. I got all these death threats and harassment from all these Silver players over getting the character nerfed from S+ to like, A. Your community is so whiny, if the community is gonna be this whiny then the devs are gonna have an impossible time balancing the game because when things like Shiv get a rework and get slightly nerfed everyone bitches so hard they get reverted and it goes right back to being S tier. This character is broken, it's not fun to play against, it's just a poor design with too many things built in. It's not fair, it's not balanced. Somehow the same person that made Silver made Graves and Mina and Paige. Fuck this hero, this hero is literally just cancer to the game. I don't wanna play against SIlver, I don't wanna play against Mirage, I don't wanna play against Billy
Woah new eceleb opinion dropped now I finally have my opinion. Time to defend it tirelessly even though I’ve never thought about this until 10 minutes ago
>>574127684What would be the point when you'll just cope regardless and say "uh, actually that's not good, you're bad, silver always loses in my seeker games, I can't do anything"? There's not even a point talking to you as is, I'm just bored.
>>574128010>>574128118>claims silver is op>never explains why Hm
>>574122926what kind of region even is that?
>ask why hero is op>get explanation, can argue and debate on whether hero actually is op>ask why silver is op>SHE JUST IS WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT IN EXPLAINING YOULL JUST DESTROY MY ARGUMENTWhy does Silver make shitters so mad?
>>574118025>legendaries appear in round 4-5 lolthat’s literally what he said man
>>574127921cope, see you in less than 48hrs
>>574128558>insane burst that procs wolf form immediately >-1000/1500 hp from start>another -700 hp and disarm>get m1gged to death by colossus tank that is moving at mach speedholy seeker gamerYWNBE (You will never be eternus)>b-b-but not every fight is a 1v1even better because you get to chain your ultimate and frontline for your team
>>574128442west coast of the US
>pick haze>forced to lane with dogshit wraith
>>574128010>>574124848Someone ask him why he thinks she's cancer.
another scheduled loss
>Hits you with a bola that makes you a complete sitting duck>Jumps at you and kicks you away from near your walker into her team>Rapid fires a shotgun at you>Regens a third of her health and turns into a high speed juggernaut>Dives back in on you with a DoT, disarms and neuters your move speed again with a giant AoE, and finishes you with Mina's rake that just has pure life steal>Resets all her cooldowns and ult duration to dive in on your teammates"How is this hero OP, man? These eternus shitters don't know anything! I can't win a single match in ritualist!"
>>574129614>gets completely shutdown by jumping to a zipline
3 leavers today
>boughted resto locket in lane against mirage>mark doesn't seem to proc it>i bought it to heal my teammate taking retarded trades>you can't use it on someone else anymore1600 souls wasted award
>>574129072>insane burst that procs wolf form immediatelyDo you even play the game? That literally never happens, I've never seen a Silver burst me for over 1000 hp at any point of the game. Do you just not buy greens?And even after her ult pops, assuming she gets enough damage to pop it in her initial burst which won't happen unless both you and the silver has a retarded build, you can just run away from the wolf.>chain ult in teamfightIrrelevant after they removed the heal, she was a mediocre at best frontline with the heal and worthless now.>>574129614>if all of these things happen she can get one kill and it's not my fault for being out of positionLMAO
>team groups up and gets ulted by dynamo>we get team wipedThis hero is so overpowered wtf...
>>574129614I cant make her work at all.She's complete garbage at farming.you need to be point blank to do ANY damage even in human form.She's squishy enough that being point blanm is suicide.Cant snowball unless YOU kill players.Even when you do snowball, you need unstoppable AND indomitible for the inevitible CC hell incoming.
deranked to ritualist 6! LETS GOOOOOOO YOSHIIIIIIIIII
We haven’t even touched on the real reason silver sucks, she literally cannot last hit
>>574130064The hero is just bad, the only thing it's good at is shitting on retarded splitpushers in 1v1 which coincidentally are the exact people that think Silver is op.She can't frontline because she has some of the worst health gain per boon in the game and the bonus from ulting is not affected by greens so even in ult she's squishy as fuck, and also a huge target that has to be in melee to do anything.
>>574129916just post rank manevery single silver downplayer is hardstuck some subhuman elo>hur dur u can just run away>hur dur silver will MISS the combothat’s just silver players in your elo being bad and itemizing poorly>>574130064you just suck complete donkey dick at the game
>>574129839Okay, if you somehow glitched out the game in that situation to let you jump on after taking damage and none of her team shot you off it then go take that zipline while her team takes your walker. Just leave, bro. Go ahead.
>>574118401who is buying it also matters. in my experience I myself am often the one buying it after another lane feeds drifter/vyper/whoever 50 kills and they don't buy it, and no one else buys it, so I buy it. and then it doesn't even fucking matter because someone breaks off into the jungle solo to get raped and gaped and then we're down a guy anyways, I hate this game
>Drifter
subtle signs your opponent has no argument and is subconsciously conceding >post rank
How hard are you niggas facetanking shit that you think Silver is squishy? Do you literally just hold W at people?
>>574130351Asc 5>will miss comboNever said that, the combo just doesn't deal any damage and I'm tired of pretending that it does. Unless silver builds max gun a full 100% hit combo won't be enough to pop ult past 15 minutes as the damage needed to ult scales with level, and if silver builds max gun you can just kill her or build some bullet resist and her combo still won't deal enough damage.
at what point do they just take away his gun
>>574130737Consider looking at her hp before vibeslopping my thread
>Mina began to wonder why every other vampires last name ended with stein
>>574130737Her health per boon is ridiculously low so you have to build a lot of green to not instantly die and even then her low base health means that greens are less effective on her and also you now deal no damage so you can't even ult.The ult bonus hp isn't base hp so it isn't affected by %increase health from greens so even in ult she's squishy as fuck, the 20% resist is not enough to offset this.
>>574130907mina would guzzle jew cum for status
your shiv for today
>>574130726It's pretty relevant when talking about a character that only has a losing WR below the highest ranks and when people are just insisting things she can do don't happen because the players whiff and you can just walk away.
>>574130469??????????? you're retarded>"TIME TO LET OUT THE BEAST"you now have plenty of time to back off and jump onto a zipline even if you was taking damage up to that point. if her teammates are shooting you then your argument is irrelevant to begin with, not mine.
If you play to win you're unironically going through a humiliation ritual without even knowing it. You're the game's equivalent of being becoming some kid's stepdad. Cuck behavior desu senpai
Who wins, 6 silvers in ult or a guy with 1 hp on a rope?
>>574131263>jump to the zipline in the middle of a fightholy dishonestydo silver downplayers even play the game?
High VoltageMercilessArea Denialhow is seven more or less merciless than everyone else in the ritual
>>574131532guy on the zipline unless by some miracle one of the silvers bought silence wave and manages to hit him with it
>rem takes our double sinners>haze premptively ends them because rem is a retard>rem leavesok4 leaves today
>e6 niggers insist that silver is op because she's like 51% winrate in their bracket>they will also insist that seven isn't op despite being above 60% winrateYeah, I don't think these "people" are worth listening to.
>>574131263>you now have plenty of time to back off and jump onto a ziplineYou know you can press the button to instantly transform, right? And she has a giant gap closer in it on top of the best movement speed in the game? And she can keep shooting you until she transforms regardless?>if her teammates are shooting you then your argument is irrelevantHer making you want to instantly flee an objective during a teamfight is irrelevant? Hell, you think her making you want to give up your walker even if she's solo is irrelevant? You don't think that's valuable?
>silver transforms>immediately tries to run away
she may have an awful dns stat line but she was good in a scrim once or something, another 4 nerfs is justified
>>574132135look I was split pushing and the hero designed to punish split pushing and being strong in 1v1 showed up and killed me 1v1 how is that fair?
>>574131671Not a zip, those rope ladder things, can be in combat and go immune to her
Silver is bad because I can run away and hide in spawn while they're taking our shrines and there's literally nothing she can do to stop me.
>>574132275she can tank fountain if she has ult and kill you thoughever
>>574131782it's worse when you realize that there's a disparity between characters who are obj melters and those who aren'tin deadlock what is always a constant factor is that the team who deals the most obj damage overall is 10/10 times the team that ends up winning the game (unless they massively fuckin throw it last minut ein a team fight). heroes who can melt through objectives easier will just have a much easier time and be stronger overall compared to characters who can'tit's kinda fucked,
>>574132261can still do single swipes or leap with skill
>e6 players insist that m1ggers aren't op >they also insist that the hero that counters m1ggers is ophmmm
>>574130767everything you said is skill issueIf you can aim, you will wolf out every fight even with cc spam given she builds bloodlust faster at lower HP.>asc 5and that’s why you think silver is weak. No one has hands there to pilot her
>>574116473All the OP m1ggers deal spirit damage. Wraith, Haze, Mirage, Mina, all of them get spirit damage for free, so you aren't allowed to counterbuild them. They'd be way more balanced if they dealt mostly gun damage since you can at least justify buying bullet resistance then, but right now m1ggers do just as much spirit damage as actual spirit characters.
>>574132674I don’t know how to break it to you anon but this is true in basically every game ever. Playing obj(I.e. the win condition) will result in more wins than indirect tomfoolery In my experience the only games where this is not true are horribly broken, just think about it logically, why would playing to win not result in more wins?
Only removing movement jank can save Deadlock
>>574132979>she bloodlusts faster at low hpOk so just disarm her or stun her at low hp, why is this so hard for you? Are you bad?
>>574132919I mean...a role not being OP because there's an OP hero that shuts all of them down seems like solid logic.
burst firefleetfootstamina masteryspam m2 tech as shiv while crouching and watch as you fly across the fucking map at mach speed while being able to do it infinitely because sliding doesn't consume your ammoyou're welcome
>>574132979Nta but I didn’t not know she builds bloodlust faster at low hp, seems like resistmaxing and blood tribute will be ruining my next game
>>574127534Gonna be great to see when Deadlock drops below 50k or 40k concurrent players, this game is balanced like total shit and the devs have literally ONLY made bad changes since the last 6 (arguably last 12) characters have been added.
This is the only thing that could save this game.
>>574133164>just do xand silver can just press dispel magic and unstoppable
the fuck do I buy if half of enemy team is spirit and half m1ggers?
>>574130792This was Warden, right? Yeah I have no idea what they think they're doing with him. He needs AoE CC and for his shield to not be a meme ability. Make it stun in an AoE when it breaks that way it's at least as good as celeste's stupid shield.
>>574133457>silver has access to all these things at all timesWell why don't you use your items of similar value and impact? You know what counter items are, right?
>>574132996Haze does deal mostly gun damage. It's why she's been the number one curse enjoyer for ages and why you still see them buying curse just to stop metal skin.
>>574133478>*You then come to a startling realization that the strongest items in the game usually ignore resists, so you just have to accept that you're going to get raped no matter what if the team comp is fucked.*
>>574133478Counterbuy their strongest, most fed players.
>>574133732>items that ignore resistsName 5
Uninstalled. Can't take another game of m1slop.
>>574129284anon, you picked a carry expecting to be carried? oh wait
>>574133601i fail to see how an items that counters unstoppable that every silver buyswhy do you guys even pick silver if you are too ass to pilot her
>>574133920>xhe didnt uninstall with the urn change
>>574134078I accept your concession.
>>574133828>>items that ignore resists>name 5ok. here are all some items that decrease, or outright ignore resists in some wayEscalating ExposureBullet Resist ShredderSpirit RendTankbusterHollow PointWeakening HeadshotCrippling HeadshotSpirit StrikeSpirit SnatchFocus LensAlchemical Fire
>>574134185>ok. here are all some items that decreaseAlready backpedaling.
silver is so strong...
>>574124848fucking based and hes 100% right
>>574133687Fixation deals plenty of spirit damage, as does the dagger.
>>574134230>ignoring EE and Crippling Headshotthis is a strange PR campaign you're promoting in the gen. are you from the discord cabal by any chance?
>>574134262>stalkerStop buying this meme item
>>574130657>drifter and drifter fans/edgelords
>>574134372WellIt's good on Billy, though
>>574133920>m1ggers all deal spirit damage anyway so building anti-gun items does nothing>metal skin is such a shit item that people who buy it lose over 60% of the time>metal skin doesn't even block on-hit effects which are usually spirit damage relatedDeadlock is so ass.
>>574134262>/dlg/ insists gun geist is shit and she needs gigabuffs
>SILVER'S ACTUALLY OP GUYS SHE JUST NEEDS HER ENTIRE TEAM FOCUS-FIRING AT WHATEVER SHE'S JOBBING TOWARDS TO PLUS ENOUGH CC TO HOLD HER TARGET DOWN FOR A YEAR
>>574134345>claims the best items “ignore resists”>asked for evidence >moves goalpost >gets called out>deflects with ad hom
>pauselock
>>574134434no it's not
>>574133478buy damage and kill them
>>574134456>1 obj damage
>>574133421why her eyes kind of bloodshot?
>>574134438it's been over 2 years + about 8 years of internal development and the devs still have literally zero idea on how to deal with scaling and roles. It's not fun taking a million damage in one hit or in a fraction of a second. And it's even worse being forced to buy a trillion defensive items, when you're not even a tank, which just extend your life expectancy by 0.037 seconds
>>574124848>criticizes a character's "community"(?) for being whiny>proceeds to whine>"I SAID IT SO IT'S OBJECTIVELY TRUEEEEEE"all this arrogance in the pro scene over the bing bing wahoo shooty mcshooty game. why? for what purpose?
>>574134775all esports subhumans are like that
>>574134714she accidentally farted in the general direction of a walker
>Everyone below archon says wraith is weak and needs buffs>Everyone archon and above says shes busted and needs nerfsWho do I believe?
>>574134608I've been trying to onetrick billy for a bitso I'd wanna hear why it's bad on him since I see a lot of onetricks do stalker for him
>>574134737Yeah it's almost as if some characters should not just inherently scale better than others. This has always been a huge flaw in any ASSFAGGOTS game. It's like they copied everything bad from Dota 2 and put it into Deadlock. Last hitting and denies, sluggish character movement unless you are abusing movement bugs to fly across the entire map, atrocious balance, patches being inconsistent at best and actively detrimental at worst, constantly adding newer and dumber objectives, it just goes to show that hero shooters and assfaggots games are individually mediocre and awful when combined.
>>574134874>wraith>needs buffsliterally no one has said this since her cards got reworked
how do i not tp into mid boss on mirage
>>574134961>it just goes to show that hero shooters and assfaggots games are individually mediocre and awful when combined.what genre of games do you think are good then
>>574134165>AIIIIIEEEEE IDK WHAT TO SAY NEXTyou’re the one hardstuck some subhuman elo rank and will forever will be. stay bad ig
>>574124848this list is so dogshit. every list from him is dogshit. Stop making me see this nigger's opinion
>>574124848>mina in C tier
works on my machine
Buff Graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
>>574134262It's not fair...poor Silver was stuck being worthless chasing enemies back to their spawn while Geist got to shoot them and kill all the objectives they were defending...
>>5741350304x strategy games, twin stick/top down shooters, tactical RPGs, hack and slash games, CRPGs, JRPGs, roguelikes/actual rogue games, tower defense games, horde shooters, some friendslop games.
>>574135189No no dude you don't get it, Mina is actually bad even though she has 3 teleports that also destroy all projectiles aimed at her, including targeted ones like slowing hex and curse and warden's cage and seven's stun and knockdown. She's also really bad because she can walk up to a camp and shoot it a little and then rake it to clear it all instantly and heal for like 300+ hp, and her gun ONLY does several hundred spirit damage after she shoots you a few times. She's C tier.
>>574135308>Casual, largely SP gamesI'm noticing a pattern in your preferences here, anon.
>>574135189>>574135448lol
good day today
>no, using statlocker to check someone's stats is retarded, statlocker data is inaccurate!>also winrate stats data on statlocker is infallible and if you argue otherwise you're retardedthis gen's behavior confuses me sometimes
>>574135494I played plenty of TF2, Dota 2, and other shooters/ASSFAGGOTS games, I just don't think Deadlock is a particularly satisfying game to play, after getting all the way to Phantom and seeing that the games don't get any better.
>>574135558buff apollohe's my main and i want to aura farm
>>574134937the item is bad in general; the spirit damage is trivial even in the first minute of the match and only good for proccing EE, a niche item. you get better value out of green movement speed items because they build into better items with better passives (or build into anything at all). the -6% bullet resist is irrelevant early game and looks like shit compared to something like generic weapon damage on like opening wounds. vision on enemies would be nice if deadlock had better juking like dota2 or even LoL, but it doesn't so it's wasted. the footstep sound distance shit is pointless in a game this fast past 95% of the time. you can crouch walk to 100% silence footsteps and if it was an actual issue like in counter-strike people would mod footsteps to be really obvious.
>>574135848There are multiple people here, anon. There's also a big difference between checking a handful of an individual's games and averaging thousands of matches across an entire rank.
how do i stop people who are walking away when im attacking them
>>574135558so what you're telling me is that bad players have a tendency to pick carries for a statistic, proven advantage to not only win but also climb faster because balance but then proceed to fail miserably either way because of their own lack of skill, even when the character is given every single tool an advantage to not only do a trillion damage but also apply cc, escape and negate counters and that you might be coping and trying to convince yourself that you're not actually a soulless metaslave in denial?
I check my lane partner's statlocker before every match. If he is negative WR on the character he's playing I subconciously already prep myself for a loss
>>574136194I will copy and paste this post of yours everytime someone says sinclair or silver is shit thank you
>>574136034he might be one buff away from deadlock shitters prostrating themselves for how “OP” he secretly is all of a suddenCurrently though I like playing him as the most honest and skill expressive hero
>>574136194she's wet paper and you can turn one of hundreds of corners to ignore her ult. the only reason she has any presence during laning is because her 1 is "overpowered" in the sense that if it was any weaker she would be a freer lane than even silver. yeah her teleport is nice but still inferior to dynamo's or even pocket's.
>>574135940>I played plenty of TF2, Dota 2, and other shooters/ASSFAGGOTS gamesI wasn't saying otherwise.
>>574136638>>574135494>"I'm noticing a pattern in your preferences">doesn't elaborate at allMY LIEGE
we need more m1 heroes that get double damage spirit passives. m1 playstyle is so hard and unrewarding if spirit is just going to be better in every single way then more m1 heroes do actually need passives where they get +100% bonus damage on hit + debuffs
>>574136086Yes the difference being that the former tells something real and the latter is meaningless conjecture
>>574137048>we need more m1 heroes that get double damage spirit passives.no. no. no. fuck that. no. just make every m1gger rely more on gun damage while having other heroes more suited towards using their abilities rather than their gunhybrid m1ggers being meta is what's killing the game
>>574137172no? gun already does no damage. theres a reason no one buys bullet res, its unnecessary, its the weakest playstyle. if valve is never going to make gun viable then the m1 heroes need to have strong, free spirit damage on every hit. otherwise the game just becomes ability spam aoeslop. this IS a shooter after all, aim should be rewarded.
>>574134714Above average for Silver
>>574137476>"no? gun already does no damage">picrel venator then venates you with 100k gun damage until you're a fine paste on the floorvindicta, grey talon, venator, and billy all heavily benefit from getting gun items in some way
>>574137172problem is, the devs wanted a game where every character could be played in any way you wanted (at least 2 years ago, that is) so now they're stuck in this situation where adding a character that only benefits from one single type of item would feel incredibly limiting, like Venator. And despite all of this, the devs STILL managed to make even this type of system feel limited, there's way too many heroes with only single feasible build, like Lash
>>574137782they also nerfed the hell out of utility to remove cc slop and to indirectly nerf deathballingbut this also had the side effect of making itemization incredibly boring if you're interested in using active itemsthere's barely any reason to go outside of your "get these items every game" comfort zone. it really is just spamming core items until you win, there's nothing fun about picking and combining items mid match unless you want to massively dick around
>>574137782>Like LashHe was able to go gun before the devs decided they didn't want that and raped him for it.
>>574137782I blame deathy(coincidentally a lash main) he was the main driver for specialism that lead to stuff like Mina where every build correlates 95% to every other buildBut he did have a point back then because there was one build you could run on everyone which was a different kind of homogeneity
>>574137989>be ivy support>build nova heroic aura web echo>decide to deviate and pick up a decay to deal with an abrams or something>I am now less effective because he just dispels itamazing game
Shiv's m2 knockback should scale with gun damage
>>574138342the most absolutely based change recently was hex disabling the knockback on shiv m2. faggot hero.>teehee I looked at an angle and pressed m2 I deserve to have 2 dashes and infinite stamina actually!
>>574138342It should scale with fall off so you have to buy sharpshooter
>>574135848Anyone that fully puts trust into Statlocker is retard man it’s not that deep>b-but winrate stats posters!retards, all retards, just a ritual post at this point for free (you)s
Remove parries, they are cheats
>>574138342I mean it sounds fun on paper but tanks having more mobility than sonic the hedgehog is miserable to play against.
>>574138281>yoshisaar should we uh... rework status effe->NO. just add in an item that gets rid of debuffs and status effects every 30 secondss or whatever. problem solved!>uhhh players are now complaining about cc. should we... maybe potentially... rework cc->NO NO NO NO NO! HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST WE CHANGE CORE GAME MECHANICS?!!!>my bad, sir...>JUST ADD IN ANOTHER ITEM THAT MAKES YOU IMMUNE TO CC>but... we already have an item like that. it's called unstoppabl-->THEN ADD ANOTHER ONE WHO GIVES A SHIT, JUST MAKE IT PROC OR SOMETHING WHEN YOU GET A CC EFFECT>w... wait, wouldn't that not work against certain hero ults? like how channeled ones?>WHO GIVES A SHIT THIS COCAINE IS MAKIN ME FEEL LIKE I'M STUNNED, DISARMED AND SLEPT GET ME SOME MORE OF IT GUHA-GUHA-GUHA!!
>>574138845Reduce the base knockback so you need like 100% gun damage to match the current knockback
>>574138721it only feels like a cheat because you can stun someone for several seconds and have them take more damage by just pressing one single key. I really wish they'd overhaul the entire melee system to be more like an 3rd person action game, with different types of heroes having different types of combos, but that might be too much
>>574138478I saw someone call Sharpershooter just a cheaper Glass Cannon but I’m wondering if it’s worth the slot
>>574138281>abrams dispels decay>now he can't dispel the incoming reverb+spirit burn from talon arrow
>s tier graves a tier victor d tier venator f tier pocketthe seven and mcginnis abuse will continue until elo improves
>melee sucks>melee damage is reduced by bullet resist>melee damage is also reduced by a separate melee resist statWhy?
>>574139015>"yoshiiiii, silver stinks! she smells like wet dog!">"ok I'll fix it don't worry dawg I gotchu">picrel>"...">"yoshi you didn't fix the actual problem you just left it in the player's hands to temporarily make it go away for a few seconds"
>>574139015>enemy has bkb, linkens, euls and the ability to just ignore ults by tapping the F key every 20s>this is on top of CC diminishing returns>this is on top of debuff resistance existing>now positioning basically doesn't matter because if you had enough time to build up enough anti-cc items you get to just be completely retarded for the remainder of the game and never die anyway
>>574137172mina is the only hybrid m1 i think is balanced, the others either do too much fucking spirit damage for m1 heroes or in wraiths case is so completely overtuned i don't even understand why they buffed her in the first place
>>574139159For shiv? lol no. But it is pretty underrated and underbought imho
>>574139242>*counterspells u*>*phantomstrikes u*>*charges u*>*kills u*
>>574139264because if melee actually became relevant by late-game time, that would mean the devs would actually have to*shudders*change... how melee mechanics work...*glass breaks**STOCK WOMAN SHRIEK SOUND EFFECT*
>>574139296>"yoshi you didn't fix the actual problem you just left it in the player's hands to temporarily make it go away for a few seconds"this is so fucking accurate with the recent patches for items that it hurts my soul
>>574139534Parries already exist, melee deserve to be a lot stronger
>>574121075>justifying being a talentless leach via comparison to non-people in your head still willing to work on their shortcomingsthis is why you are a loser chud and the lawless society you dream of would have me and my wife silver cannibalize you
>>574139680Parries are such a dogshit game mechanic. Getting to stun the opponent and rape them for 3 seconds straight with a damage boost because you randomly pressed F (risk-free due to being able to just IAD away if you miss your parry) is so bad.
>>574139680they shouldunironicallynerf the parry windowto be 2/3rd of its current durationBECAUSE IT BEING ACTIVE FOR THE ENTIRE PARRY ANIMATION IS COUNTERINTUITIVE AS SHITplayers should be punished more for spamming parries all willy nillyremove light melees while also making heavy melees slightly fasterI know this sounds biased but I fucking swear it would be better for melee mechanics
Buff all melee itemsAdd more melee itemsNerf parriesChange rebuttal at 800 into making parries work as nowAdd another parry item at 3200 that works like current rebuttal
>>574139975>remove light meleesi wouldn't, but i would make it so parrying a light melee doesn't fucking stun the person who got parried, it's way too much of a punishment
>>574139768it also makes playing as billy extremely painfulbecause yeah he's op, but there's much less risk to spamming your abilities and using your m1 as opposed to using your melees because your 3 is reliant on it
>>574138342Shiv's m2 knockback should be removed entirely since giving characters free extra movement abilities is retarded as fuck. It didn't work on Celeste either, and it doesn't work on Ivy. It's free on Shiv since his gun isn't used for shooting people outside of laning.
Buff Mina, Calico, Kelvin and Mo&Krill.
>>574140080>800 souls to be back to the way things currently arestupid brown nigger
about to take a big deadlock night shit
You can weave in random light melees as silver ult and it looks basically the same but increases dps
>play ivy for the first time>easiest game of my life>stone form just makes your immortal>kudzu is insane>nothing else is even needed but they are still amazingwho balanced this fucking character?
>>574132979>>asc 5>and that’s why you think silver is weak. No one has hands there to pilot herIf a character is only strong in the top 0.1% of permavirgins then the character isn't strong. Asc 5 is like 5x better than most players will ever be.
>>574121075Anon, rape and abuse aren't a flex, it's a cycle and a monkey-brain reaction/cope like in >>574134408. Just ask Drake Bell, his rapist, and his own ex-girlfriends. You're not owning anybody but yourself, no matter how powerful you need to feel about yourself to try and regain the control they took from you. Saddest part is that you'll learn nothing from this and just try to insult me in a very immature way which will in fact prove everything I've said correct.
>>574140225The best way to play Billy is to literally never press Q unless the enemy is stunned.
>>574134874>>574134937I definitely meant to type Silver just a Freudian slip i guess
>>574086501the better your team the more they'll talk, someone going 8-3 has less immediate insecurities to clitty leak over than someone going 2-11, it's a lot easier to look like a faggot with 0 emotional discipline online than it is in-person so you have to be pavlovian about it, dude or chick, lest you want to hear your throwing paige's life story
>>574140282Yes, baseline parries should be nerfed, they are too strong and make weaving in light melees too risky to even bother. Rebuttal at 800 can bring parries back to the current state.
Damn that guy is still farming (you)‘s I gotta step my game up
>>574140380She's always been overpowered and never has dropped below 50% winrate.
>>574139381I keep seeing it in Doorman builds, which make sense I guess, fucker isn’t going be in your face unless he’s throwing a cart in it. I’ll give a try
>>574140656>buying gun items on doormanSure is seeker in here
>>574140521800 souls is trivial to how strong parrying currently is.
>>574122250I've played with girls who actually carried the team. There was also this one time where I rescued this girl who was playing haze from an Abrams as Ivy. She said "I love you Ivy" with a cute voice and it felt amazing. You will never feel the same if you keep acting like an insecure tween and never solve your own issues, but hey, society is the problem, lil champ.
>>574140656It’s good for splitpushing because the range you can dmg towers is something like 18m so you can still get the bonus and be well positioned to flee if need be
>>574140818This is one of the gayest posts I have ever read.
>>574140950Oh fuck off to >>>/pol/, incel freak.
>>574140818Manliest Ivy player.
>>574140943Wait this is actually really good advice
>>574141028Anon I've had sex. With chubby women. You're just gay.
unfortunatehell continues
>>574140950>improve instead of blaming others>UHHH... THAT'S... LE GAYarchonsissies... it's the end of the road...
>>574141145
>>574141149Sorry bro I'm in Phantom but got bored of this dogshit game.>>574141261God, TADC ended on such a shit finale that it actually ruined most of the show.
>>574140793>buys Spellbreaker>molests you
>>574140818i stopped seeing foids somewhere mid archon, everyone after that is a depressed 30+ year oldthe parable of the chudcel shattering upon meeting a foid is wrong because whenever i heard a female voice on rem/paige/mina I knew we were gonna lose unless we were getting hard carried by their beta orbiter(s)
>>574141142chubby women you say?
>>574141325>second pointi really don't understand why people say this lol. jax was clearly the main point of the show, and that episode explored their character really well.
>>574141325the makers of TADC gave up on putting in effort after having to deal with their absolutely dogshit fanbase. I wish I was making that up.
>>574141142that's so masculine of you and definitely not some shallow cope, anon. How did you manage to have sex in 2026? Did you happen to build houses for the poor and walk on water too?
>>574140406are you trying to samefag as me?I'm confused
>>574141145all billy players deserve this
>>574141606based desu>>574141662>>574141685Maybe they shouldn't have intentionally cultivated a shit fanbase much like what Toby Fox has done with deltarune, lolAlso Jax is not an interesting enough character to justify wasting the entire finale on them and then trying to justify their behavior via them being a tranny.
>>574141928The hero is just really weak and needs a lot of buffs.
>shiv throws 3 knives and hits 0 shots>dieok
>>574141685I did end up looking into it after all the drama and damn the creator of the show was absolutely in the right to sabotage their own writing just to piss off these preteens with how fuckin’ borderline animalistic they got, haven’t seen a fanbase spiral into mental illness that quick in years. Social media was a mistake
>>574141973i don't care. that hero is a dumb nigger and so are his players
>>574141325is there any particular reason why you keep talking about your rank as if that, an external thing, from a videgame, is your only positive trait?
>>574142081It's actually one of the hardest and most high IQ heroes in the game.
just watched my team call mid, 4 people dead 50+ secsit in mid waiting for someone to attack for 40 sec, decide not to do it then die 2 to a solo shivthen they ngot rejuv for free
>>574141957>Jax is not an interesting enough character to justify wasting the entire finale on themwell tbf, the creator said it's their self-insert. their show, their rules. and i still think it's done pretty well, i'm just not the target audience. deadlock
>>574140818>She said "I love you Ivy" with a cute voice and it felt amazing.>You will never feel the same if you keep acting like an insecure tween>"lil champ"Are you sure you're not projecting your own insecurities and self-perceived flaws onto others? I don't geek out over some woman calling me her little pogchamp in a Deadlock match. It's not like you can ram your dick through the PC to fuck some stranger on the other side of the world anyway.
>>574142129What?>>574141982People like to pretend Shiv is high skill. He is not. He's always overpowered and annoying.
according to claude fable deadlock could gain at least 20 new players if yamato looked like this
>>574142295>"if you can't stick your dick into her she's not worth interacting with in any capacity"
one time i was playing abrams and i had a paige on my team named "penis size and curvature please" and he had an effeminate fag voice and as soon as i made a joke he said i was hilarious and he loved me and he spent the rest of the match following me around the map to play off me
Man, isn't it cool when you kill three people in your base with Patron down, but they win anyways, because it's fucking Rejuv and somehow none of them die after losing it, or even die twice. Really damn cool.
>low priouninstalledNot wasting anymore of my precious time on this nigger game and it's nigger playerbasebest decision of my life
>>574142613yeah, women are worthlessi bench 100kg for reps and my gf is 16
>>574142645yeah thats the point of rejuv
>>574142295are you sure you're not projecting your insect-brained shallow values unto me?
>>574142613if you want to hit up some girl in a deadlock match for her socials, be my guest? If you've got a crush and refuse to interact with her meaningfully and just let your feeling simmer, it's the same as wanting to only stick your dick through the PC. IF YOU REALLY want to fuck a woman, stop idly simping and make some fucking moves on her.
Deadlock?
HAHAHA<JAHAHa<rfhwazsgdesxhfdxvcfh the only fuckign time today were my team gets mid they refuse to use the fucking rejuvs holy shit im gonna kms
>>574140793Seems like going 4.8k is still popular, I did find one sharpshooter and one ballistic enhancement on doors which I quite like 2bh because you don’t really need range for anything else
>>574142886>insect-brained>"ur projecting my projecting!!" Deflecting the topic instead of engaging with it is the first sign of a concession, y'know?
>>574142691You're very brave for rage quitting constantly, keyboard warrior
>>574143498>ballistic enhancement on doors
>>574143791it's for rangemaxxing the doors, essentially
>>574140793if Victors on my team what the fuck does a Doorman do if everyone is running 5 layers of spirit resist
>>574143498I dunno, the increased range on bells is pretty good for hitting more than one person with the explosion.
i love this low rank whore games
>>574143880Concession accepted
>>574143864you shouldn't need more range for doors though, nearly every mid objective can be doored to a walker easily enough
>>574143498>ballistic enhancement on doorsDon’t you lose out on half the items effects? Or does someone on the enemy team going through a door count?
>>574143901I’d bet it only matters once or twice a game, gonna try opening rounds+ballistic for the 4.8 with optional sharpshooter for the 8k breakpoint if I need to splitBy putting the range on your orange you can focus on the other purps
>>574143571I don't have any need to engage with stupidity in the same way I wouldn't engage a wire with my bare hands besides rejecting it, and I rejected your world view, which was the entire post, there's nothing else to prove since you're already doing a great job clowning on yourself. But since you're talking about engaging things, tell me something, why is it that specific people like you, across this entire site, always deny basic psychology while at the same exact time demonstrating every possible sign of deep mental illness, and resentment stemming from weakness and bad experiences as if you're trying to shield yourself from something?
>>574143880all you can do is go spirit rend, crippling headshot and pray they're retarded enough to not buy dispel magic>>574144024nigga what is the doorman anon supposed to do? fuckin spam spirit sap? the only purple item that isn't shit and reduces enemy spirit resist is EE
>>574144184That’s a good question idk this may be retarded
>>574144024NTA I meant that earnestly if im Doorman and they’re running a massive amount of spirit defense due to my teams comp why wouldn’t a doorman buy a couple gun items to compensate? I get they nerfed his gun awhile back but it’s better than nothing atleast
How do play graves?
>>574144351thank you>>574144024Fuck you
>>574144546do you have a mouse and at least one key on your keyboard?
>>574143994yeah i dont wanna play this nigger game anymore fuck deadlock and its horrible matchnmaking
Fuck Silver.
>>574144656LIFTING
i bet the retards who complain about m1 have never bought heroic aura ever
>GAMING
told my friend its better to buy heroic aura because you passively provide gun resist + buff your allies than disarming hex as it is easily countered and he called me a retardam i wrong or right
>300 hp silver 1v1ing a full hp lashweak unplayable bad hero btw
>>574144314>why is it that specific people like you, across this entire site, always deny basic psychology while at the same exact time demonstrating every possible sign of deep mental illness, and resentment stemming from weakness and bad experiences as if you're trying to shield yourself from something?Idk nigga you're the one sperging out over the anon essentially calling you immature. you are also showing all the signs of mental illness, with all this coming from some haze calling you her pog champ. Is it too much to ask of you to have some self-awareness when writing these long ass posts, and maybe not act like a little kid while casually calling others 'lil champ'? it makes you look completely undignified in the end
>>574144943Disarming hex is a joke in the first few minutes. Then it's a tragic waste of money after minute 5. Only a Pakistani game director would be able to scam players like that
>>574144314If you're not going to engage with my post then why should I engage with yours? Wouldn't we just end the discussion at the point since we're obviously not keen on successfully persuading each-other, and just shit-flinging?
>>574144989>the hero that's good in 1v1s is good in 1v1s this CANT STAND NERF HER
From peaking at Eternus 4 (shitlow) according to this general, and then purposely deranking down to oracle. The games down here are so much more fun I don't have to be a meta-slave. I can actually have fun without having to mute some faggot crying about because he saw someone on our team had 3.6k unspent souls because he had cheating mods installed.
>>574144442Don’t worry about it chief I ran Torment Pulse for two games on Doorman thinking it’d somehow be helpful to shock their balls twice while sending them to the baroness before I snapped out of that
>>574145206>Posted 20 seconds after she fights Viscous + Calico + Billy in a 3v1 and winsLol
>>574144314
>>574145306>abuses parries>gets free killsLiterally any hero could've won that with those parries
>>574145018Well that's not really engaging of you. And then you spent the entire rest of your post doing a tu quoque and ad hominem. Like I've already said, I'm not the one who needs to prove anything here
Don't care. Buff Silver.
S++++ilver
>>574144943Heroic is one of the highest winrate items and disarm is one of the lowestTechnically tho if there is only one gun enemy that’s a problem disarm is better
alch 4 games xDDDDthis morning i was emissary 6 HOW IS THIS MATCHMAKING REAL
>>574145453Yeah, night shift isn't real deadlock anyway, who cares about these games. 30 people playing each other once a week shouldn't have any impact on the balance of the game.
>>574145558i would take hours to get fair matches with this player decline
>>574143864I went to check and it’s this, he bought only after greater expansion and super late
>>574145403>Well that's not really engaging of you.he couldve just ritualposted with a >>>>i accept your concession but he didntid say the anon has responded to your posts pretty directly>I'm not the one who needs to prove anything hereparagraphs and paragraphs of writing over saving face is shitting up the thread. its okay to be a loser and be proud of it anon
>>574140818>>574142886>>574144314>>574145018>>574145403based retard
So... hecking... weak.....
>yet another silver rapes the lobby of some of the best deadlock players every single silver downplayer just self-reporting their disability huh
>>574146069movement trannies aren't good at the game
>>574146069It requires less personal accountability and responsibility to just larp the hero as "unplayable" and weak
>>574143791It's the Joeschmuck special for epic walker and jungle steal plays.
>>574146069see >>574135734
>>574146069If the hero is good in night shift it means the hero is actually bad, night shift isn't real deadlock. reminder that seven gets 0 picks in night shift and he's 60% winrate in e6.
>>574146191honest-to-god skill issue
>>574146152You make fun of him but he's the quintessential Doorcuck player that defines how this character is played, no other eceleb can brag about that for another character.
>>574146434unfortunately you cant solo carry with the hero it doesnt do very much in the 6v6 mid standoff that my mmr loves
>>574145403>Well that's not really engaging of youI am amazed at how contrivingly you've flipped this whole thing around to be about nothing while acting like you're communicating something meaningful. I really hope you get some fucking mental help, because the level of thinking required to even come to this conclusion is in the pits.>tu quoqueWhat? There's nothing substantive in your posts at all; it's you just throwing a temper tantrum while waxing lyrical about how terrible strangers are towards you on the site.>>574145018THANK YOU, HOLY SHIT. This is nothing short of the most embarrassing string of posts I've ever had the displeasure of reasoning out.
>>574146496I used to really like doorman before the kidnap into spawn/Walker shit started and now if I don’t do it people ask if I’m retarded (I am but that’s beside the point)I want to throw bells and put their overfed carry into a playroom for a couple seconds while using the kidnap strat to send people into the vents for a easy stun but nooooooo>Doorman why haven’t you sent them into our walker yetbecause fuck you this kit is cool and needs more creativity
>>574146987>and now if I don’t do it people ask if I’m retardedif anyone wants me play the OPTIMAL META WAY I just mute themif the whole team does it I mute the whole teamim not going to play some autistic hyperspecific way, I'm gonna have fun
This game should only be balanced around initiate and eternus (only real elos)
lol i bet 90% of this matchmaking shit could have been avoided if yoshi never displayed rank and just kept it hidden. maybe keep the top 1000 scoreboard but thats it
>no ggs on nightshift match endingFirst time watching. Are they tilted or is this normal?
>>574147508if yoshi did that this game would legitimately lose half its current playerbasehalf this game are miserable addicts and the other half are stupid /mrg/tards suffering from the sunk cost fallacy effect
i've always seen silver as like middle of the pack. not unplayably bad but not turbo OP either, i have seen silvers do well and carry and i have seen silvers do poorly and feedguess my rank
>>574147741didnt they do a poll and like 5% people came from rivals and the vast majority are overwatch people?
>Nightshit faggots don't pick the same 15 pool of characters (impossible challenge)yoshit... hurry up with the open beta...
So... fvcking... weak....
>silver most kills and almost most damage in NightshiftUhm, Silver downplayers?
>>574147850blueberry III
>>574148060>0/10 Billy>2/12 Viscous>1/10 CalicoThis is just like my pub games...
>>574148060well will they stop displaying this crossdressing retard
>>574147906>faggots pick the same metslave pool of characters>faggots pick the same pool of items and don't experiment with anything else>if you're not an autistic overwatch movement tranny or an extreme dotatard you're NGMI to eternus>can't see other people's ranks in a match without literal cheat modsI'm just wondering when the 'Deadlock' social experiment is going to end soon.
>>574148060>>574148074Carried by her team also night shift isn't real Deadlock.
>>574147286Meta gamers are a plague to multiplayer games and need to shut the fuck up>bbb-but optimal stratsShut the fuck up, the “meta” is for low IQ low skill level faggots, if you can’t win a match doing the dumbest shit possible you’re a fuckin’ fraud bitch, the guys that define the meta are the guys not using the meta anyways and actually actively experimenting shit> if anyone wants me play the OPTIMAL META WAY I just mute themThis is the way
I've browsed this general enough to come to the conclusion that a good chunk of posters here are complete faggots.
>>574148060>>574148074>spend 80% of your networth on green items to do identical damage to a fed drifter and a pocket who got his gun and health spike and then spent all of his money on damage itemsyike
>>574148364>t. mr faggot
>>574148060wtf is that leviathan draft 0 carry
>street brawl>pick graves>spirit+stam+self heal>no one can kill me, i do annoying damage with minions>so long as i dont have all 3 retards we just win>70% win ratewhy people bother with the "normal" mode ill never figure out, its so fucking boring to farm for half an hour to have 1-2 team fights which decide everything
>>574148280>Uncle Dane was in on it the whole time and it was Gayben himself who told him to leak Deadlockwoah...
>>574148367the drifter had six green items, and the silver also got insanely fed as wellso idk it don't seem too unreasonable to me
>>574148364fork found in kitchen
>>574148364See you next week
>1st game of the day>full team of people using mic and communicating well>2nd game>dead silence from everyone.shit is so disheartening
>>574146868I've already said what I had to say a long while ago. Everything else has been nothing but you and maybe 2 other tweens venting out their frustrations on me while completely denying or ignoring everything I've said in a desperate attempt to one day feel validated about your own issues instead of solving them, and the point remains the exact same. Not my problem you've taken the conversation here
>>574149001if you need people to talk to to know what to do you have horrible macro
>>574142831And the point is that it's bad.
>>574149001I want to talk but I’m so bad at the game I can’t defend my retarded decision making my bad
>the nightshift team with ivy, infernus, and pocket wonwoah. imagine that.
>>574149336AND SILVER*
WHERSE THE UPDATE YOSHI IT WAS PROMISED TO ME 2 WEEKS AGO
what do you guys max first on billy?
>>574149148I accept your concession.
>>574149001people make fun of my accent
>>574149001Anything I ever need to say can be said with my pings.
>>574147906>hurry up with the open betaMatchmaking is already a mess man I cannot even begin to imagine the first week of open beta, you’ll be seeing some shit
>>574149148thank you for being so retarded anonIve been laughing my ass off at everything thats been going on and been saidmy sides have been in orbit. I hope you revisit the thread soon
>>574149521god awful build
>>574149737people would be incessantly spamming "DOA DOA DOA DOA" until every match they played was baby easy and put them up against tardteams
>>574149336So what did Infernus do the whole time? What did he build?
>>574148060>silver, drifter and ivy are ripping everyone apart>none of them have dispel>but no one buys disarming
>>574150005Seeker cope
>>574150005if youre not getting a gorillion greens youre unironically a turd on s*lver
>>574150112>buying active itemsinitiateBVLL here this is a stat check game, active items are a trap
>>574149574>>574149840now explain to me how that's a concession or how that makes you laugh (since you're the one desperately insulting me for about an hour trying to regain control). And try your best not to prove me right by actually making an argument instead of typing 3 words which either don't address anything or are yet another low hanging ad hominem to feel validated about yourself
>>574150087played like an annoying movementrooner while farming and getting assist picks for a good majority of the gameI'm just confused on why he got headhunter instead of something better for procc'ing his afterburn like titanic magazine
>>574150112High elo deadlock is just everyone abusing every single movement tech ever to stat check eachother.
>>574150112Buying disarming when you're already so behind or god forbid multiple disarmings is just futile because the enemy will immediately respond by buying dispels and you're still just as far apart networth wise except Dispel still heals and buffs you on use and provides a small amount of spirit res whereas Disarm provides nothing >>574150550Headhunter and mystic shot work with his napalm damage amp it just makes him less dependent on afterburn damage in a meta where everyone has incidental debuff resist from weighted shots and/or dispel
Ok ok okHear me out… ballistic enhancement on the bells. With both greater and be you can get 15m bells(about the width of the lane)
I buy disarm for the shred
Just got into the top 500 Silver NA playersI'm trans btw
Silences should disable Victor's ultimate>but-No>bu-No>b-b-butNo
Just got into the top 500 Victor NA playersI'm trans btw
The more i try to learn this game, the more frustrating it becomes because nothing makes sense. You watch a million videos talking about what you should be doing, optimization, builds, specific hero gameplay, but if you're below eternus it feels like it doesn't matter because people just play randomly. Nobody is thinking about what they're doing. Teamfights happen because people get bored. People might go for objectives or not, its just completely random. It feels like the only thing that matters is if you get fed or not, that's it, that's how you actually impact games
>>574151392and then they say that m1 characters are not feasible
>>574150112>disarm silver>you get 3 seconds of life before she kills you while her ult lasts 10 years
>>574151682If you go for objectives, you will be eternus Trying to get fed and “carry” is a big trap
pushing waves will get you to eternus just push waves
>>574148060outdrafted>mina sucks>spirit apollo>gun lash>support slimeThey were literally trolling
m1slop will get you to eternus because this is a dogshit "movement shooter"
>>574152179They read dlg’s silver slander and threw her a bone
>>574151682it's the same thing with every moba, anon. Just play a hero you like and try to have fun. Youtubers and coaches have a financial incentive to make you believe in what they say, so they are likely to mostly only show you the times where their advise actually works.
>>574152179>support viscous is trollingretard
>>574152009How the fuck do i go for objectives when i'm literally just one dude in a 6v6 game where my team doesn't want to do objectives?
nigfernus has to be the least skillful character in the game
>>574152319Its just hard to have fun when every match feels like a sequence of random events with no rhyme or reason, makes both wins and losses feel random
>>574152376push the waveif you push the wave you can join your team in fights without losing your objectivesif you push the wave you can force the enemy team to answer them while joining your team in said fightsif you push the wave and the enemy team makes the mistake of overcommitting players to a fight you can push the objective by yourselfjust always push waves. if you push waves you will win
>>574152319I’m not a YouTuber or a coach I’m telling you the truth, objectives is how you win. Damage on the patron is literally called objective damage, you have to break objectives to even hurt it. They do not regenerate, every damage on an objective is one step closer to winning. Kills, player damage, healing, farming, it’s all in pursuit of objective damage whether players realize it or not
>>574152476*runs away like a faggot*
>just a couple of hits from finally killing victor>our dynamo carries me away from him>this happens 3 times in a row and the guy just goes back to full healthSick and tired of this bullshit
>>574152668YOU SEE THAT SHIT
>>574152319>play a hero you likeBut what if I like playing non-carries
>>574152568That just assumes people play right. I push the wave, the enemy team just doesn't respond. Instead they decide they want to brool on my jungle with my team, but they win the teamfight and now four of us are dead, they lost the walker but they`re taking midboss and we're losing, not to mention the rift that just happened to spawn. None of this was because they decided it was a better play, its just because they randomly decided to fight and won.
>>574152568niggas coming from shooters or overwatchshit dont understand the importance of wave managementUnironically just play REM w/ monster rounds and put helpers on waves if you cant into wave management
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO AIIIIIMMMMM YOU NEED SKILLLLL>YOU CAN'T USE STAMINA CARDS YOU HAVEEEE TO GO TO MY TRANSVESTITE WEBSITE AND LEARN MOVETECH>YOU CANT USE GREEN ITEMS WTF YOU NEED DAAMMMAAGEEEE GO SPIRITTTT>YOU CANT JUST PICK THE PICK OF THE MONTH WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKeveryone here, on reddit, on youtube, and on twitch is retarded, my win rate is at 68% and i will continue to climb out of ascension to prove this game sucks fucking ASS
>>574153082wait was this just now? did you kill a doorman who went 1/15 over and over?i came here to fucking bitch about elo terrorists like him, i cant take this shit anymore
>>574151041>resists and dispelInfernus ignores all anyways
>>574153082People who spec into movement are just making up for how dogshit they are at mechanical skill or itemization
>>574153082>custom skincheating
Wow this game is dogshit
>>574153362He really doesn't
>Teammate is being an annoying faggot in chat, complaining about everything>Tell them to stop being a whiny faggot >They don't>Go afk so they lose the game>They go absolutely fucking pissed off 10000% ballistic People don't understand how by playing this game you are given control of other people's fate, for a precious few minutes. IF someone is being a dipshit, just throw the match. They can't do anything about it. It feels so good.
>>574153405>bug abuser says what?keep seething faggot, your shit will get systematically patched out like it has been for over a year>>574153347yes i was in his lane and he was a joecuck viewer who didnt know wtf to do because me and my drifter wouldnt walk in front of his door>>574153413if upskirts are cheating i might as well install aimbot because i'll get banned before i change back to trannylock default skins
>>574153593I was agreeing with you, ok man you got issues
>low elo players cry about movement boogeyman episode #98348525change the channel already
>>574153405if you care so much about mechanical skill why arent you playing a game based heavily around mechanical skill like CS?oh that's rigggghtt, because you're a shitter who needs to feel superior in a far less popular gamemovement trannies always out themselves so easily
>>574153709>ok man you got issuesyou figured that out just now and not by his post?
what's this i hear about the deadlock scene in usa being dead?
>>574153968the us sucks at mobas
>>574153082least schizophrenic graves poster>>574153968people in USA have jobs so they cannot become as good at source engine bugs
I play Deadlock over CS because CS is boring realismslop and doesn't have fun set building or characters like TF2 or the 'lock
>>574153347This is why I wait at least a day before posting match results. I know I've played with some of you faggots at least once.
which hero is getting a "Meet the" video first
I'm having a depressive episode in real life and honestly everything feels so fucking pointless and stupid, and i`ve been taking my anger out on deadlock by going afk and throwing games on purpose. Honestly people on my team being pissed off is the only good thing i've felt the entire month. I dropped from ascendant to oracle from how many matches i threw. It feels like the only time in my life where i have actual control over the result of something
>>574154243are you that dynamo player with a mcginnis gigachad profile pic
>>574154336No. Also worth noting that despite throwing god knows how many matches i still haven't been placed in low prio even once
I went from Eternus 1 to Ascendant 1.I almost cracked, and called my 1/17/5 teammate a 'feeding faggot' but then I remembered this is an alpha game and instead typed 'gg wp gl next'
>>574154239Hoodwink
>>574154239mina loads in first when you first boot the game, she's due for a buff based off her winrate, is cute, has a strong personality, and arguably the strongest ties to NY in the "story" (if you can call it that)sadly, the transvestites seems enamored with her which diminishes the likelihood of it a bit but we'll see
>graves gets veil walker and stamina mastery>I lose the gameWhere is the counter play?
>>574154634Seeker-kun...
>>574154634You catch her alone and jump her
>>574154498ranked mode just needs to go back to being hidden, it is adding nothing of value to the game
do corner boosts scare you lil oracle boy
>>574154634Just do midboss?fuck lil graves gon do?
>>574154843no it can stay mr silver tranny, but it should cost stamina to do
>>574154634>whats the counterpla-its curse lil bro. its always curse.
>another game vs shivWow I really do enjoy playing vs a hero that doesn't have to interact with game mechanics. More nerfs please.
>>574154843>abusing bugs is le hecking cool!Kill yourself tranny
>>574154843im ascendant and never have done a corner boost or iad #honesty
>>574155102does this scare you seeker boy
>the little minon guys start attacking you if you jump in and attack the enemiesWhy?
>>574155306>scareI'm not scared of trannies, I'm disgusted by them.
shitter uncs crying about getting movement diffed lmaooo stay in cumlow lil uncy
>>574154843>"you're supposed to let go of W and...">try this>jump in a random direction ruining any velocity I hadHow the fuck do I override existing control motorics?
>>574155306what is your point here? that when you dont have bugs to abuse you die 1v6 on a strong hero because of bad positioning?
>>574155331becaise that's how it worked in dota
>>574155451You don't have to let go of W
>>574155451Letting go of W is for air strafing, lil nigga
>>574153968>base the game around new york>let thirdies who can't speak english play the game>on top of this game sucking donkey ass with no new content for monthswhat's gonna keep people on this gayme and away from something like fartnut or another new cow a doody
>>574155551ugh i should never ever get punished for bad play i should always be able to jump around like a tranny and survive if you disagree your bad
stay #bad and #movementdiffed lil seekerchuddies lol
>>574152662I'm not trying to promote inting or anything. Objectives are clearly the way to win>>574152735push sidelanes without dying so that you don't feed, wait for teammates to brool (every minute or so) and gank them while an enemy tries to destroy the wave you pushed, using your cc and items to help your teammates get the kill. You can use the enemy spawn times to try and steal resources quickly from a safer area before repeating again. The game is won by accumulating enough souls and pushing enough objectives to the point where the other team can't even have fun, which you've already experienced. If you know the game will end on a loss then simply focus on practicing and seeing how long you can defend for instead of raging. That's basically all you need
>>574155695Uh why don't you just mimic their movement and catch them and kill them? Are you bad?
>>574155863I don't abuse bugs, it's called having standards.
>>574155719>clicks you wraith ultuhhhhh movementkeks?
>>574154239IVY - A Gargoyle's Tale
movement is fine, gunslop is the problem
Why didnt a bot match get rid of low prio?Is this game made by street shitters or something?
>>574151990That's 3 seconds of her not stacking her attack speed on top of not attackingThat's 3 seconds of (at least) 1 person being able to lay into her in melee range at no risk of their life
>>574154843>mantling instead of heavy meleeing to vent platformi kneel seekergod
>>574156204if you have low prio you ARE the street shitter
>>574155306>pops ult way too early>doesnt check minimap>doesnt see 3 inside base near lane exit>continues to go in>finally realizes when one gives chase and blows all stamina for no reason backing up>runs out of stamina and STILL tries to jump>no other option, uses movement item for no reason>fails to do the most basic of shit like vault slide on or off truck>TURNS AROUND AND THINKS HE CAN FIGHT IT LMAO>enemy catches up as wave pushes out and they get zipline>talon misplays and eshifts way too early>without something to m1, complete fucking panic and stares at zipline not understanding why bug abuse isnt working in the middle of a 3v1>doesnt_understand.jpg>goes back to try to m1>dies>revives on ult>no stamina>tries to slide and goes no where>dies again trying and failing to corner bug abuse or look for zipline that isnt thereK I N O
>>574156260so thats a yes, this game is made by street shitters
>>574154243is that the kind of person you really want to be? why don't you try doing some pushups or going out for a run? you'll get to use your anger on something actually beneficial and you'll get to feel actually proud of something without having to be a nuisance
>>574156348ask me how I know you're a rusnigger
5th leaver of the day
>lose two games in a row where I didn't deserve to lose>win two games in a row where I didn't deserve to winsuch is life
>>574155572>>574155670I know it's not for what is in the WEBM. The more I try to get into movement tech, the more I run into the issue of having to ignore 90% of how I've learned to control movement in 28 years of vidya. It feels counter intuitive, even though I understand the why.
>Other MOBAs have casual mode>Deadlock does not>Other MOBAs have their rank up order go in 5>4>3>2>1>Deadlock decided to do the oppositeSo are they being different for the sake of being different or...?
my god seven sits melee range so everyone can attack him and use spellsso nice of him not to sit at the roof of our base like every nigger i play against
>>574157150They are... Experimentingfor better or for worse.Usually for worse.Sometimes for better.
>>574157150other mobas aren't filled with troons and negress girlbosses either.btw if deadlock was made by anyone other than valve it would be called concord 2 and DOA
>>574157150>casual modeits called street brawlthey probably dont want to split the playerbaseboth cs and dota (valve games) have ascending ranks
>>574157352>its called street brawlArguing in bad faith doesnt help your argument
>>574157426what fucking argument? i answered, i didnt argue, dumb ass nigga
>>574157332because valve is actually competent at making games, the concord leading dev literally had their hands over their ears for that entire game's development and wouldn't accept any criticismI can't speak for how well valve preserves the games over extended periods of time, but all of their games are very admirably artistic at least
Can anybody come up with a sensible argument why unranked should exist as a game mode? >EXPERT MODE: Argument doesn't come from an unresolved issue of being mad at past teammates
>>574156384It just feels like a nuisance is the best i can hope to be. And its better than being nothing
is mirage a woman? whats with these thighs
>>574156348>>574156204>ruin multiple games with human beings>thinks winning a single game against computers should fix ityour entitlement is indian sar
>>574157150yoshi said that a matchmaking update was due "in a few weeks" two weeks ago, so expect changes soonish
This game will never be good until they rework the melee system but I think they wont. How many spells but with slight melee scaling can they possibly add? Gun is simultaneously overpowered but feels like shit. Game poopy
>>574157332>>574157332>other mobas aren't filled with troons and negress girlbosses eitherThat's every moba, tho.>Dota 2>Tranny: Templar Assassin, negro girlboss: Dawnbreaker>LoLidk I never played it>Smite 2>Tranny: Cupid, negro girlboss: Yemoja>Overwatch, Concord, etc>lmao
>>574157567Because the competitive scene is making the game's community environment insufferable and obnoxious to be in.If this game had a casual mode or unranked, matches wouldn't feel as high stakes, meaning people would be looking to have fun instead of cutting off their own dick if it meant they needed to win, and still having a breakdown over losing because of rank garbage.
im playing so terribly today i feel bad for my team mates im sorry
why do you play this game as opposed to just rolling dice or drawing cards? every game is decided by who gets better teammates/draft and you have 0 agency
>>574156257i just tested them both in explore and it is 7% faster to heavy melee so i will be doing that instead ty bro im eternus and i love improving :)>>574156321honestly i posted the wrong webm by mistake and it wasn't even my own gameplay but it was funny to see how much you had to write about it
>>574157950literally me
>>574157879But it's supposed to be high stakes in the highest ranks. Regardless of being unranked or not, games at the highest rating are always sweaty, and there's no way around it unless you're literally the GOAT.
>>574157332yamoto, wraith and caligo designs need to fucking go, they are the most modded characters after the UI mods because they are UGLY as FUCK
>>574157950I'm always playing like shit and I don't feel sorry at all.
>>574158185Leave Seelah alone!
Whoever said street brawl gets rid of low prio is a retarded nigger
>>574157950Hey, you've got this, okay?You'll be growing like a speed weed in no time.With a beautiful heart and mind, you should already have it in the bag. Shine that bag with courage like you mean it.Until our paths cross through us again.Hahaflowershahahaha.
>>574157879>>574158167I opened a pro's stream earlier because someone was posting about his tier list and right about when I opened the stream he was saying how because of ranked everyone just spams meta slop so they can get boosted to a higher rank and then tell everyone else they're bad and wrong for being a lower rank
>>574157996>drawing cards?if another artifact happens gabe's gonna have a stroke
>>574158843yep, any time there's an S tier hero the pickrate at least doubles. Shiv went from like 30% to 70%. Drifter became an 80% pick rate. Now it's haze and victor getting a big boost.Rank is meaningless and those subhumans will have to change to the next OP hero or they will drop fast. If youre phantom/ascendant youre pretty good at the game, and you should probably just stop playing instead of spending another 500 games grinding to eternus
>>574157332i tried to post about that on /v/ and they blew a fucking gasket, i think because the rothschilds lost a lawsuit against them and they hired jeets to spam /v/ with antivalve threads for months>caligo>pocket>yamoto>wraith>celeste>grey talon>haze>holiday>mcginnis (worst offender)>vindictaall never HEAVY visual redesigns and the girls with skirts need actual fucking upskirts not black voids
>>574159143im phantom and dont know how this game even works
>>574159294Neither do eternus players. They're just better at aiming or hopping around like a faggot
>>574159143isnt it funny, since i reached asc everyone only plays metaslopholliday was in every game, now shes nowhere to be seen
haven't touched the main game ever since street brawl came outyou have to be a genuine retard to waste 40+ minutes of your time running around breaking boxes and shooting creeps and shit
>>574158629perhaps you're the retarded nigger monkey that believed him?
>>574159443based and correctpilled, MOBAs suck fucking ASS and not turning this game into overwatch: valve edition was a huge fucking mistake
Seven was raging at Abrams for literally the entire game also I do not care for your political schizophrenia
>>574159641>0 obj damageliterally how, i always get at least some by random aoe
>>574159403Yeah cause once you get to a certain MMR the skill differences matter less and less and the overstatted bullshit heroes single handedly decide games depending who gets what
>>574159443street brawl is even worse there's no strategy and 4v4 is much more boring than 6v6. Instead of maybe 25% of the match wasting your time hitting boxes it's just 100% because street brawl is utter slop
i played a street brawl game once on accident and there was a graves flying around and half the people were shooting out rainbow lasers while being invincible
>>574160062They don't call it Jeet brool for nothing
>>574160002that's nice, can you explain without buzz words why the default mode isn't fun and street brawl is?
>>574157332>other mobas aren't filled with troons and negress girlbosses either.delusional lmao
>>574160518at least ambessa is cool
>>574160293But the default mode is fun. Street brawl is garbage. The objectives have no nuance. Every fight is the same. There's no strategy. There's no leads or comebacks or ganks. It's just hope you get good items and brawl like a retard. And there's less people so the brawls arent even as fun or interesting.
>>574157796tbf everytime they say "we updated the matchmaking" literally nothing changes
>>574160875>But the default mode is funlol
>>574160875>>574160293Also the player quality is way worse. I feel like there's no mmr or something and I have to play with bong rip mcgees who can barely remember what his ult does
bong rip ginnis normal mode vs bong rip ginnis street brool
>>574161007Listen man street brawl is awful. If I wanted a fun casual game where we just fight all the time I would play marvel rivals. Which I am doing right now cause deadlock sucks ass. I am never playing street brawl until they add actual fun objectives like heroes of the storm instead of just worse versions of the main game.How about you explain why you play a retard mode of deadlock instead of an actual hero shooter
>>574161179main mode is just third person cookie clicker for autistic spastics
>>574161271it just so happens that I am an autistic spastic
>>574161496glad we're in agreement you're just mentally ill and the game is shit
>>574158843>>574159143But that only makes sense. An environment you can only reach by optimizing every aspect of your play is dominated by meta, no shit. That's just a logical manifestation of what the game is like at highest ranks. It can't be any other way.
Why are there no melee bebop builds?Its so annoying that the only GOOD bebop build is bomb and its so easily countered
>>574161548that's not me fag, you're still wasting your time if it's two street brawl games or one deadlock game
>>574161753there are though. Crushing fist is good on him since he gets 3 stacks with one combo and is a great light melee userthe wotodile build is from one of the top bebops in the game and he has melee focusechoshard bomb is the worst way to play bebop , witchmail bomb melee hybrid is what I do
>>574161753I used to use a build I found in which you go Stalker first, but it's outdated now. I remember it also having Hunter's Aura.
i remember when thread would bake at 750 now even the baker has quit kek
>>574162485deadcock doesn't deserve new threads
>>574162485I got you>>574162684>>574162684>>574162684>>574162684>>574162684
>>574161753melee cant be good while movement bugs exist