>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=688635449342696590>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>573896173
*does nothing*
Sex with Venator
very bad start to this thread
I hate this lack of real leaks, or any updates, I swear to god valve restarted development at this point or something
Buff Silver
>>573989894Valve killed all the leakers so they can quietly shut down development on this game
imagine buying green items
>>573989894Don't enable attention whore leakers. Just go play something else.It's obvious the public-but-also-closed access is a failed experiment and they only use it to stress test slop that needs a big dataset for feedback. Remember they opened the test in a panic because of Uncle Dane, originally you couldn't even stream or take screenshots (back when there was invite trees). Would probably not even know if Deadlock exists or what it is beyond dataleak mentions in CS or DotA today without it.
>>573989927This but actually nerf her.
>>573990225>because of Uncle Danewhat did he do
>>573990343He's the one that first leaked footage of the game. He streamed it to his discord kittens and one of them recorded it and disseminated it to others.
>>573990225Letting me play deadlock was the only good think uncledane the molester main ever did that was any good, I was there back in 2024 may when we got weekly updates, when they where not worried about changing shit for real and adding in wacky half done hero's and I will never stop hating the fags that treated this like a full game and made them open there real real beta test.
what the fuck are you supposed to do in a lane when your idiot buddy refuses to do anything but afk instead of helping secure the kills on people you bring to 10% hp
>>573990594buy egg and afk farm
>>573990448I agree, but that's just how it is. I can only think of one or two people that when presenting Deadlock mentioned it was a half baked mess in some aspects because it wasn't supposed to be shown, everyone else treats it as some sort of closed but not really open-beta. See how people shat their pants after Hero Labs too. That's why I say it's a failed experiment. Volvo probably thought they could do whatever and get a ton of valuable feedback, now they know that if they do something very experimental they'll just tank any goodwill towards the game from normalfags (hence why I don't understand the last Urn slop and now Rift slop).
>>573989573Mina Ho
Let's see what this dick can do.
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>573990617egg just makes you lose harder, don't fucking buy this item.either get monster rounds into cult sac to jungle earlier in the game than usual or get trophy collector to gank and try to win someone else's lane instead of staying in your doomed one.
>Finally start doing well>Keep losingI'm tired of this shit
>>573991582post your most recent match ID, i'll review what went wrong
>>573990617>>573991475the problem is im basically 1v2ing them and should be getting kills but hes sitting on tower while i chase their 20% asses i dunno i cant simply afk farm in a lane im winning solo
>THENPocket's ult rendered useless with one 3200 item (use after)>NOWPocket's ult rendered useless with one 3200 item (use before) or a 6400 item (use after)
>>573993075Affliction should NEVER be good
>>573993873Pocket is ass without his ult though.
>>573993989His gun is insane.
>>573994537Pockets gun is ass though.
>>573965876I don't want a surrender option.I don't care about some epic 2hr comeback where surrender would have totally fucked it or something, that isn't the point.Surrender is bad because it cultivates a surrender mentality where people just want to quit the moment something goes bad, if surrender exists these same people try to hold others hostage and constantly whine to surrender because THEY are having a bad game even if WE as a team are winning.I fucking hate that shit, I hate having to deal with whiny fucks and the ability to surrender just increases the amount of whiny fucks in the game and gives them ammunition to shit things up.Surrender lowers match quality.If you disagree you are retarded and one of the exact fragile people everyone else wants to not deal with.
Nothing more infuriating than the faggot double digit death feeder saying "just let them win" in chat like I haven't been sweating my ass off trying to prevent that
>Silver out and out CONFIRMED by the urn to smell goodI'm imagining.
>>573994537i hate how modern internet interactions made words mean nothing. like "insane" means just good now. pockets gun is just good. theres nothing insane about it>>573995163>If you disagree you are retarded and one of the exact fragile people everyone else wants to not deal with.this gave me an idea. valve could try making a different queue that has a surrender option for people that want this as an experiment. i would be interested in what kind of metas form there. im assuming lane dominating heros would see a spike in wr% with "people" with weak mental surrendering immediately in lane. also rank convergence would be different as everything is decided by crushing opponents mental over actual state of the game
At what rank does shooting the enemy so I can distract them and deny their orbs stop working?
>>573995646Pretty quick in like oracle or some shit, they will kill your minions and push wave to tower and shoot you and deny your orbs
>venator teammate buys oses shit build with bullet vest hollow points charge items and ballistic enhancement>maxes shotgun and ult first???
>>573996414>goycattle who follow public L>R builds are subhumanwtf how?
>>573996541why not follow the l > r leveling order also then
>>573996414>build with bullet vest hollow points charge items and ballistic enhancementExplain how this is bad
>>573996986those items require you to be above 65% of health for half of their soul value to work. if you can utilize that by being above 65% hp for the fight you are already winning it. charge items are nice... if you are building charges
>>573995163>Surrender is bad because it cultivates a surrender mentality where people just want to quit the moment something goes bad, if surrender exists these same people try to hold others hostage and constantly whine to surrender because THEY are having a bad game even if WE as a team are winning.niggas really out here saying this shit as if this sorta garbage didn't already happen every 5 matchesget real nigga it's a moba it's gonna have absolutely dogshit mentally ill players at every corner no matter what. a surrender option would alliviate this shit if anything
>>573996986Nta but>bullet vestArmor sucks early because his base hp is low, his tankiness comes from buying more greens than average since no purp>hollow pointsLow hp means less time active also shred is lowkey mid on him because part of his dmg is pure>charge itemsYou need to name max to use charges>ballistic enhancement Also a nade build thing but not bad all things consneederedPersonally I’m not a huge fan of nade builds as it kind of feels like a slightly better bomb Geist
Are opening rounds good on ivy?I certainly miss less when I buy them.
>open beta drops>player count rises to 200k "maybe">a week goes by and 90% of them go back to fotm friend slop>the remaining 10% trickle away because valve takes too long with content updates>drops down to 20k players
>the urn generally praises the carrier, occasionally mocking them, except for heroes who would obviously be continually mocked for their flaws in character>Gray Talon, who is generally regarded well by the rest of the cast, even those who would be considered enemies outside of the ritual, is just relentlessly harangued for being old by the urnWhat the fuck is this ceramic shitter's problem!?
>>573997656They are a good item but idk if they are the best choice for ivy, her velocity is pretty mid. The spirit power is pretty good and the dmg not bad, I could see it as like a opening rounds>tesla>capacitor to hit your spikes
>>573998026asking to be dropped and smashed until it's fine dust
>>573997831Why did he end up in low prio?
>>573998339>heyikes, transphobic chud
why are Haze players always so mad?why?It’s always the Haze that spergs the fuck out all the time regardless of rank or gamemode or team or winning or losing just always so aggro all the fucking time
>>573997468>as if this sorta garbage didn't already happen every 5 matchesnoit doesn't happen "every 5 matches"its the kind of thing that happens every couple hundred games at most, you realistically might see it once in a thousand gamesoh? this isn't your experience?that's because you play games with surrender and have been conditioned by it
>>574000531Baby easy characters lead people to develop huge, fragile egos. The most toxic players are either in high impact roles or low impact support sissies.
>>573995163They should add a surrender option but it should flag your profile when used and send you into a separate matchmaking with other people of the same mentality, that way people that actually aren’t punished because 4/6 of the team gave the fuck up, sure the first month of its release will be a mess but you’d see a uptick in match quality later on
>>573997831Hot
>>574001146>just try to separate them out>just create more options for them>j-j-justnofuck themif they don't like it they can quithow do you filter them out? by filtering them from the game
>>574001046I can see that, infernous players also get pissy as a mother fucker too
>>573998015All Valve needs to do is to just add cosmetics and cases
>>574001246They’ll quit and sit in spawn regardless so why not filter them? They’re whiny as all hell and not going away, they won’t quit playing the game (even though they should really if they’re just gonna do fuck all) but atleast by putting them in a little pissbaby playpen with the others you’d have some mental relief from the faggotry
what is the counter to a billy holding W and facerolling his 1 2 3 4 keys
>>574001297It's simple really, they're boosted by their character so they think they can do no wrong, thus lose their shit when they start losing.Meanwhile supportsissies start to micromanage others because they can't do shit on their own/get constantly dove, suddenly they think they are the smartest person in the room and know better than everyone else (also playing some of the easiest characters in the game).
>>574001862Shoot him to death
>>573989573>- Scourge: Max Health Per Second reduced from 2.6% to 2.5%This is what constitutes deadlock dev work, a literal .1% adjustment. Not balancing Pocket or Shiv or Wraith or any of the other obnoxious OP characters.
>>574000531She's braindead easy to play even for m1 character standards. Her and Wraith are played by the most boosted retards imaginable due to the fact that they both have easy setup abilities to let them bullet hose you, built-in hybrid damage that makes building bullet or spirit resist worthless, and ridiculously OP ults that take 0 skill to use.
>>574002176>pocket has 47% wr>wraith has 50% wr>- Shiv: Serrated Knives T3 spirit scaling reduced from +0.09 to +0.07>- Shiv: Slice and Dice spirit scaling reduced from 1.44 to 1.2>- Shiv: Slice and Dice T2 reduced from -6% Spirit Resist to -4%>- Shiv: Bloodletting cooldown increased from 20s to 25s>- Shiv: Bloodletting T1 increased from -10s Cooldown to -15s>- Shiv: Bloodletting Damage Cleared reduced from 35% to 30%>- Shiv: Bloodletting T2 Damage Cleared increased from 35% to 40%>- Shiv: Killing Blow Health Threshold reduced from 20% to 18%>- Shiv: Killing Blow T3 Health Threshold increased from +8% to +10%
>>574002387>literal 1-2% adjustments on ShivNot helping your case here.
Those are ~20% adjustments, items and heroes have been deemed unplayable for less. Gun viscous got a 10% damage reduction and disappeared overnight.
>>574002687Viscous isnt Shiv get real, bozo
>>574002687Viscous has never been anywhere as good as Shiv. Shiv has 4 incredibly overtuned abilities, Viscous has one and it is going to get nerfed even more (splatter)
>>574003071The Cube is too reality-warping for Viscous to have other moves thoughbeit
>>574003120The cube is okay but other characters have far more obnoxious abilities, like Mina's teleport that also disjoints everything and she can use it twice/three times. Or Pocket's case on a way shorter cooldown. Or Yamato having 6 Phantom Strikes that also go through walls.
>>574003120Cube doesn't do damage so it's irrelevant.
splatter shouldnt even exist, the literal definition of fire and forget aoe goyslop that also does 1000 damage per splat
>>574003071>Viscous has one and it is going to get nerfed even more (splatter)I'm actually mad they made his most braindead boring ability his only reliable source of damage.
>>574003302Average deadlocker iq take
The Mina patch did irreparable damage to this gameReally is a shameGame died before it officially came out due to the fandom it created
>>573990643>now they know that if they do something very experimental they'll just tank any goodwill towards the game from normalfagsthats why they have the super duper secret club closed (but more closed) confidental play test
>>574002176The devs are incompetent if this entire soul jar affair hasn’t told you that. There’s a zero percent chance that this game makes it big.
Hoodwink will save this game
>>574003483They want it to be hecking cool bounce ability, but the only impressive use is bouncing from one neutral camp to another now it's just a hanzo scatter shot
>>574003718The urn was a nothingburger compared to the double soak “fixes”, that ruined the game for like 6 months
>>574003829Doesn’t make the urn situation any less embarrassing. It was easier to digest for the dumb niggers who play this game nowadays.
>>5740038296 months? they ruined the entire map, forever!
>>574003789venator's bouncy nade is the hecking cool bounce abilitythey should buff splatter's puddles so they feel like they do something, and leave a trail in between bounces. that would make it feel more unique
>>573997497>his tankiness comes from buying more greens than average since no purp>he doesn't know about spirit venator>scales res with spirit>traps do massive damage>tank
>>574000531Because people with weak mentals can't take not one-shotting enemies with the knife ult combo.
>>574003612I agree, I was talking about it in another thread, but of the last 12 heroes added, how many would you say are actually good additions to the game? Venator and Rem are both okay. The other ten are all varying degrees of awful. Victor and Graves will always be problem characters since they take 0 skill to play. Apollo is obnoxious. Celeste is obnoxious. Paige is braindead. Doorman is obnoxious. Mina is overpowered and obnoxious. Drifter is overpowered and obnoxious.>>574003829The urn KOTH nonsense is so bad and the fact that they not only solidified it as a mechanic but made it twice as snowbally with the rift creeps is actually baffling game design. Not only do you get several thousand souls from the rift plus the kills you get, you also get a free walker for another couple thousand souls.>>574003489Yeah I miss the punch builds or really being able to do ANYTHING besides spam splatter and cube+rescue beam, but apparently asking people to use one of the most overpowered things in the game (parries) was too much.
>>573998339they're a chronic leaver
Each bounce should get more biggerer
>>574003829Double soak fixes?
>>574004067Rift is much easier to trade a walker for and the troopers can be dealt with by one person after they spawn in.
>>574001569>They’ll quit and sit in spawnno they wontthey will get low priority if they do thisno need to have a separate "surrender queue", it sounds to me like you just want to be able to surrender and you are one of these people> they won’t quit playing the gameyes they willdo you think people who keep getting low priority don't quit?you can already see people who quit deadlock from getting low priority and not wanting to deal with the people thereno, you don't give into retards demandsno, surrender will not be added no matter how much you want it
>>574001862outfarm him before that happens
>>574004170Back in 4 lanes there was this strat where you freeze the wave and let one guy farm it then he would run to another lane and farm that, essentially getting 2x soulsThere was a dozen attempts to fix it,each fucked the game even more
Is graves the best scaling hero in the game?
>>574004570That sounds pretty awful and is the exact reason that shit like stacking camps in Dota 2 is gay as fuck.>>574004750No that's Shiv or Seven.
am i /honest/ enough for /dlg/?
>>574005136Start spamming mokrill
>>574004067you should just quit because if you are crying about drifter and doorman, you are never going to like any new heroes. the core problem are the OG cast being insanely strong because they were designed before the game took shape. haze/wraith/infernus/kelvin and some others are still completely insane and are just waiting on certain metas to blow up, all new characters need a certain level of power to be able to compete. ivy has never had a WR below 52% since release and stone form is by far the strongest single ability in the game.
>>574005568Anon, I got to Phantom and lost interest in the main game mode because of the atrocious balance. I know Ivy is overpowered, and that Stone Form is overpowered. It's a better Viscous cube.I agree that Haze, Infernus, Wraith, and Kelvin are all busted, but that's because the devs are retarded and released these overpowered characters, then felt the need to randomly pick old characters to powercreep too
When are we getting Techies I'm starting to doubt my faith in icefrog...
Holy shit just remove graves from the game she is broken at every elo.
>>574005791Spirit Venator buffs, trust
>>574005679NTA or even a Ivy player, but I should certainly think a self-target restricted ability should be "better" than one that can be cast on any friendly player. What are you trying to say here?
>>574006108The main issue with stone form is that it is absurdly strong on top of Ivy having no bad abilities. Viscous has had his entire kit gutted outside of Splatter and Cube, so he's literally half a hero.
What elo does focusing objective damage stop working?
>>574006545 none
>>574006108>disjoint>invuln for 2-3 seconds>AOE stun>guarantees free followup depending on yoshi's mood >best initiation/anti initiation in the gameyeah
>>574006329OK, I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to compare those abilties, they're pretty fundamentally different and the common point is the invulnerability. It seems like a better ability to judge whether it is overpowered or not is something like Pocket satchel or possibly Apollo risposte, as they are self-target damage invuln and have offensive capability on top of it.
>>574006108Self-target with no cooldown and a massive AOE stun?
>>574006721NTA, but it's a powerful ability that has absolutely kept this character in a top 10 or top 5 winrate. every other character in the cast has seen various forms of ability gutting and are basically awaiting reworks
>ivy comes out of stone form>hook her for free because shes stationary>free killsame with visc cubebebop rapes stationary invulnerability shit
>>574006108>>574006721Stone Form is much better than Cube because cube can only be used defensively, while stone form can do both offense and defense at the same time, while also being one of the best non-ult abilities for securing rejuv (the most important thing in the game) and it completely cucks Dynamo's ult if you time it right. Ivy is always going to be busted because she's one of the few things people genuinely like about Deadlock.
>>573982236>>have to do a bunch of nonsensical movement tech to get out of the ult>yeah this shit is why people aren't interested in deadlockthe nonsensical movement tech in question: a single wall kick timed with the moment you start falling (i saw this on a webm and was able to replicate it first try)just say you're retarded
>>574006980>corner/edgeboosting bug abuse
corner/edge boosting is only kept around because the streamers would piss themselves and cry about it if yoshi removed it
>>574006980>using bugged movement
>>574007192It's true, and the sooner it gets removed, the better. But they're too busy adjusting Pocket and Shiv's numbers by 1% to make actually good balance changes.
>>574007094>>574007269why did this retarded post it twice? also when did it become cool to be bad at video games on /v/ and /vg/
>>574007192it's kept around because they can't fix it, it's a deeply embedded problem with source engine.i don't think the devs want people to be doing this and dashing fucking sideways to go faster for no reason.
>>574007769If they actually cared about the quality of the game, they would have removed all the ridiculous movement bugs already, but streamers don't complain to them to do it, so it doesn't happen.>>574007739Different anons, retard.
>>574007739Not wanting to abuse bugs makes you good at video games. Wanting to abuse bugs is speedrunner tranny mentality.
>>574007739>bug abuse is being good at video games
>>574007769they have literally adjusted the push force and given it a sound effect
>>574008101Yes, because movement trannies and streamers demand that these bugs be kept in the game to gatekeep players that aren't interested in learning gay movement tech. The fact that moving around optimally in this game looks like flailing around is a massive flaw.
KEK skirtschizo on the /v/
Dude its literally just pressing the spacebar at the right timing, its not that hard to learn
>>574007094>corner/edgeboostingthere is no corner/edgeboost in that webm retard
you motherfuckers would not survive in any quake lobbydo you want this game to be sluggish walkslop like battlefield?
>>574008324Quake is dead because it wasn't actually that good.>>574008292That's not a regular wall jump, anon.
>>574008257if it's an official movement feature, then it should be taught in the tutorial and they should look into incorporating its usage into the system (aka, costs stamina)
>>574008409it's dead because mouthbreathers would rather play slop for the masses like counter strike
>>574008409Actually its dead because the boomers that played it all grew up and have families now.
>>574008559most people would rather play games that does not gate keep techniques from them
The March 6th update was when instead of nerfing annoying faggot characters they made every character an annoying faggot except Holliday, and even then that came later anyway.
>>574008559I tried playing Counter Strike for a week to see what people liked about it, and it just seems like a truly miserable game. No wonder it's so popular with third worlders.>>574008647That too. If your game is going to have a ton of esoteric techniques in it, especially in regards to something as basic and essential as movement, you better have good tutorials for it. Deadlock fails horribly in this regard and that's one of the main problems with it, they either need to simplify the movement stuff or add tutorials for it, but they will do neither and people will hate it.
>>574008252I can relate to that sentiment 2bhliterally society's problem that I'm an angry incel
wheres the harm of people doing edge and cornerboosts anyway? if you dont want to do it you will settle in a rank where people dont do it and thats it. you will never see it happen in your oracle matches. also there are a gorillion different video games you could be playing that dont have "tranny movement" or "troonment" but instead you decide to play a valve game. valve games are known to have loads of intentionally left in movement tech>>574007891>there are two people equally retarded on /dlg/>>574007901>speedrunnerthey are people that solve games down to bit level and make everything as efficient as possible. if this is not being good at video games idk what is>Not wanting to abuse bugs makes you good at video games. no? filtered retard>>574008025>>bug abuse is being good at video gamesyes. filtered>>574008516theres 9000+ features they dont explain in the tutorials>>574008647apparently not since youre playing deadlock and deadlock doesnt cater to retards like youthere are countles examples of video games becoming more fun because of emergent features that came from engine quirks. see gunz, tf2, dark souls 1-3 and bb pvp etcetc. i shouldnt even be arguing about this. i already won since deadlock has these tech and their position in the game has been solidified with custom sounds and acknowledgement of the devs. you lost. deadlock will always be a movement game
>>574008689And then they released another 5 annoying faggots and Venator.
>>574008770counter strike is still fun. it's a tactical stealth game. you get used to the maps and learn the ambush or "peek" spots and then it's a mix of catching them off guard or having better reaction times. it's a simple and fun game. the real problem with CS is the rampant cheating but I don't want to derail
most games with "advanced movement" just die because people don't want to look for external guides on how to do it no matter how easy it is.titanfall 2 in it's prime had maybe 3 people in a whole lobby on average that knew how to tap strafe and that shit was easy as fuck. if you knew how to do it you'd easily just farm the entire lobby and nobody would have fun except you going like 60-2.if they want it to be in the official skill stack for the game they need to tell people how to fucking do it somewhere in the game and not on an autistic wiki page or on a youtube video.
>>574008885Those were before, dyslexia-kun.
I keep forgetting that playing video games and experimenting/learning mechanics on your own is a completely alien concept to zoomers which is why all modern games have to explain every little detail to them.https://youtu.be/KC656o7_zVk
>>574008860>gunz>tf2>dark souls bloodborneniche, dead, or not really comparable. you didn't mention quake because that's the prime example of a competitive game nobody wants to learn. chess has lots of strategies, but everyone is playing the same game
>>574009013>tf2>the game that has had the longest run of all shooters in history and is still ongoing>deadnah>you didn't mention quake because that's the prime example of a competitive game nobody wants to learn. i didnt mention it because its something i havent really touched and its also an obvious point>chess has lots of strategies, but everyone is playing the same gamei kinda get your point but on the other hand i could be disingenuous and say that deadlock too is a game that is the same for anyone. anyone can edge/coornerboost and it requires zero practice. it wont carry you to e6 but it will give you some speed and thats it
>>574008916you cant expect people to know where the secret shop is, because the game doesn't have a tutorial showing them how to get there. Remove the secret shop and don't expect me to find it in a yt video or autistic wiki page
>>574009504>nahyah. the comp scene was mildly successful but small. this is an icefrog game, they want 500,000 players, not 10,000. >i didn't mention because it's an obvious pointit's one of the strongest arguments against leaning into the movement shooter aspects. those games...do not do well. they do not last long. they have small hardcore fanbases and then quickly wither and die. it's also a very sloppy feature for an icefrog game, why would there be a meta defining movement technique that isn't taught to the average player or costs stamina?
>>574009703it's on the minimap, nice try.
>>574009826>he's surprised that an unannounced closed early alpha experimental test game is less popular than established franchises like Dota and CS
>>574010069I am not surprised by that, but there is a critical trend that movement shooters have. they all fail because of oblique movement techniques. if it is that easy to do and the devs cannot or will not remove it, then slap it into the tutorial and make it cost stamina to match dashes.
>>574008916>most games with "advanced movement" just die because people don't want to look for external guidessource? literally every moba has an infinite amount of tutorials made for them and people look at these en masse since forever. people are willing to do it when coming into mobas. >titanfall 2 in it's prime had maybe 3 people in a whole lobby on average that knew how to tap strafe and that shit was easy as fuck. if you knew how to do it you'd easily just farm the entire lobby and nobody would have fun except you going like 60-2.deadlock has sbmm so a lil seekie wont be running into someone that knows edge/coornerboost>>574009826>yah. the comp scene was mildly successful but small.lmaoooooo. yes of course the afterthought that is comp tf2 in a casual game is going to be dead. the game as a whole is alive>those games...do not do well.still remembered to this day>they have small hardcore fanbases and then quickly wither and die.and you just ignored tf2 like its nothing. the other still hugely popular valve shooter with gorillion different movement tech>>574010249>they all fail because of oblique movement techniques.your headcanon
>>574010249There's a pretty clear gradiant when it comes to movement skills in Deadlock. You can easily tell which general bracket a player is in based on their movement, which tells me that players intuitively learn core movement mechanics naturally when ranking up. Yes, there are so extremely niche movement mechanics that require near frame-perfect jumping but that's very rare to see even in E6 lobbies.
>>574010381>you ignored tf2 likes it nothingit's 2026 dude. the average tf2 player is a diaper shitting furry in their late 30s
We need a spirit version of healing booster/tempo
>urn has new lines>this means it will not be removed>in fact, it will only becomes louder and quippierFantastic
>>574010464so your metric for a games' success isnt how much players it has but whats the demography of that player population like? okay
>>574008252>someone is using my screenshot to shitpost deadslop on /v/My Deadlock legacy is bigger than yours.
If I want to get better should I watch metro or xqc?
>>574010726Urn is okay now, it's the rift that's the problem.
>>574010763I am not calling deadlock a failure. my point is that tilting the game in favor of movement shooter mechanics isn't a good idea because they never do good. they are historically a niche and unpopular genre. I have not even argued for REMOVING corner boosting, I have argued for just incorporating it into the systems, but I figure you're arguing in bad faith and would get mad if it cost stamina to do
>>574008916Titanfall 2 also died because the only viable weapons were the CAR smg and the sniper rifle that one shots people, since you could use both while flying around the map and being unkillable. It made for very boring gameplay, similar to what we have in Deadlock now.>>574009703>secret shop is clearly displayed on the map>this is equivalent to movement techniques that are not at all explained ever and you have to look it up on the autistic movement wikiThe fact that Deadlock's movement mechanics are so buggy and retarded that it needs an entire wiki to document them shows how bad it is.>>574010249If it costs stamina to do, 'pros' will whine since it means they have to actually commit to actions.
>>574010763TF2's player numbers are abysmal, so I don't know what you're getting at here>b-b-b-but the charts sayBotsThey're all botsThe overwhelming majority of the "active" playerbase is bots idlying for item drops.Only a small portion are real players
>>574010991I would be okay with corner/edgeboosting if >It costs stamina>It is made explicit where you can perform them and how to do so>There is a tutorial explaining itRight now Deadlock's movement system is all about abusing the shitty stamina system to use as little of it as possible, rather than having to manage it as a resource. There's a reason most of the OP characters have some form of bonus movement, it allows them to not use their stamina so they can easily escape from any bad situation
>>574010726The lines are the best part about the urn.
>>574010381titanfall 2 had skill based matchmaking.you very much underestimate how many people will just give up if they have to look something up, no matter how much fun they're having in the game.classic moba games don't have tutorial videos, they are guides because the execution requirements to play those games are really low.you can watch a tutorial for movement tech in deadlock and probably not even get it even after trying it for an hour as an average player.even eternus players have trouble learning this shit. average players are not going to grind a mechanic for hours until it becomes second nature. to you this seems fine, the rules of nature will settle them into low ranks where nobody knows how to do it but a lot of these people will see something they can't do and don't want to invest time in learning how to do and will just outright quit the game.
>>574011027>Titanfall 2 also died because the only viable weapons were the CAR smg and the sniper rifle that one shots peopleTitanfall only died because Respawn abandoned it like an aborted fetus to trendchase the battle royale genre. It used to be DDOSed to death daily for years until people pestered Respawn enough to do something about itGenuinely beat and rape Respawn devs to death
>>574011257It died for that reason too, but also because it had horrendous balance. Much like Deadlock.>>574008860Gunz was a mess of a game. PVP in souls games is retarded as fuck and not meant to be taken even remotely seriously.Deadlock's movement tech is not fun to perform and it is gatekept by nasally trannies making youtube videos on how to perform it, instead of the devs going 'hmmm this core aspect of the game, maybe we should add a tutorial for it instead of listening to night shift players about nerfing silver for the 50th time'
>>574010979watch MikaelS1 vods
>>574011465I will concede that CAR was pure nigger aids and whoever used it deserves to be skinned alive
>teammate runs urn while every tower is down and everyone can afford everything why do people do this?
>>574011185>don't want to invest time in learning how to do and will just outright quit the game.and this knowledge is based on...?>even eternus players have trouble learning this shit.what shit specifically because every deadlock movement tech is extremely easy except maybe for the frame perfect zipline momentum conservation tech>the rules of nature will settle them into low ranks you overestimate how big of an impact movement has on your rank. metro knowns zero (0) movement and is e6 on his main>>574011465>Deadlock's movement tech is not fun to performfun in my experience>>574010979watch me
>>574010726urn is good now that it only benefits one person and 100% of the souls can be contestedno longer does the enemy team get fed constant souls because they drafted the better mobility charactersalso I like the lore they slipped in with the urn being billiams social worker and the viceroy being named simonalso sinclair and warden acknowledged by someone besides themselves
>>574011540Hearing him rag on the state of the game is really funny, he sounds so defeated knowing how bad the balance is.>>574011618Yeah it is the only viable weapon in the entire game, and it's sad because it has a lot of cooler weapons.>>574011639Metro is a boosted animal who plays Wraith, who doesn't need to know movement tech because Wraith can teleport across half the map.
>>574011632Denying resources to the enemy team?
>>574011757>enemy team has celeste or holliday>you never get an urn ever
>>574011770at that point everyone had 10k+ souls sitting around with every item slot filled
>>574010906>literally the same filename
>>574011632Eomm agents
>>574011639you will never understand what goes on in the minds of casual players because you have a competitive mindset.you will literally suck a dick if it gave you an extra stamina bar in deadlock.
>>574011759>it is the only viable weapon in the entire gameHardly. The CAR is a pub stomping crutch but any skilled player with high-burst weapons can rape CARmonkeys into submission
>If the urn hasn't been delivered within 45s of being picked up, it will start decaying in value over another 45s, until its value reaches zero and it expires. This is indicated by the "delivering the urn" text turning red and counting down.so you can just hold the urn and go jungle forcing the enemy to rotate and waste their time since they can't see you?
>>574011991Based mobilechad making 4chan chuddies seethe
>>574011958Well, idkI remember this one guy in a match who'd have a full blown meltdown of genuine anger whenever they capped urn so, maybe for psychological warfare?
>>574011869youll never get the buffs from urn but at least its a free soul delivery to you if you can contest them
>do a really cool wombo combo and kill the enemy Seven>he calls me a faggot>think I can break him mentally to get hin out of the game for an easy win>"hey Seven cool it with the homophobia, what do you have against gay people?">start asking if he was molested as a kid>my team picks up on what I'm doing and joins in>Seven get increasingly angry>to the point where we can just find him sitting still while typing>eventually he breaks down and starts ranting>tells everyone he was fingered by his father's best friend at a pool>he was repeatedly molested by that friend and never told anyone>he quits afterwards>we just play in silence after that
Buff Graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
>>574013026Sir your sharpshooter?
>>574008213I didn't realize bugs get visual updates and unique sound effects to let players know when they doing the bug.
Tons of competitive games require you to go look shit up if you wanna get git gud. I don't think CS even teaches you what counterstrafing is and that's a genuinely basic and essential technique to start learning rather than some niche shit like corner boosting that 99% of the playerbase isn't using. Actual casual players don't give a fuck about that. You guys are just whiny little bitches that want everything dumbed down to your level so you can feel better.
>>574013401you can get to e6 without using a single vent or wall jump with good macro
>>574013231Yes, that is in fact what happens when you only listen to Night Shift retards for your balance.
>>574013401 I tried this Baroness escape >>574006980 and just like the anon said I was able to do it in one tryI think it's fair to complain about niche tech to a degree but once you've hit a certain amount of "Duhh how wuz I supposed to know that??" you just start to sound like DSP
>>574013698you only knew how to do it because you watched a video of someone doing it.the fact that you never did it before seeing the video proves the point you dumbass.answer the question of how you were supposed to know that, genuinely.
>>574011991>game with higher concentration of attractive characters than 99% of games is le wokeslop because i can't see my character's pussy
>>574013869I accept your concession, filtered seekerfaggot.
>>574013869how am i supposed to know where the secret shop isthey should remove it from the game
>>574013685Not every thing you don't like is a bug.
>>574013926it's on the minimap, you already tried this analogy that didn't work before.now answer the question.
guys, guys...can't we all just get along and go back to talking about what a cuck faggot piggy is
>>574012874LMAO this guy was molested by a man what a faggot
>>574013869HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW COUNTERSTRAFING WAS A THING? DEAD GAME DEAD GAME THIS GAME IS GOING TO DIE VALVE IF YOU DON'T REMOVE THIS SHIT
>>574014392answerthequestion
>get autofilled as Lash>never played him>don't really like his kit>flying around is kinda fun though>jump like 50 thousand feet in the air>look down>there's 3 enemies clustered together>drop down from above>they blow the fuck up and dieOh my god... I get it now...
>>574014576Now comes the realization that ground slam sucks and you have to flog max
>>574014429Explain why it matters.
>>574014064what about boxes?
if the game doesn't end by 40 minutes the shop should sell lengendaries and enhanced items
>>574014746because intuitive design is nice.counter strafing is actually pretty intuitive, your accuracy is based on your velocity and when you move and let go of a key you have residual velocity.tapping the other direction to stop faster and gain accuracy actually makes sense.now why does wall jumping at the end of a wall make you go faster and how would one intuit that from scratch?why are you all being so fucking evasive when asked and just coming up with "WHAT ABOUT ____"?
>>574014104I've never had such hate for random retards on the internet to revel in a dude getting cucked just because I don't like him. There are few things that make you actually deserving of that. You're effectively defending her behavior as well by acting like he deserves it just for being a cringe faggot.
>>574015034Concession accepted
why are trannies so defensive about troonvement? maybe they know that they will drop to seeker from oracle if they cant teleport across the map by abusing bugs and escaping everything for free
>>574015241pathetic.
i love this playerbase
>>574015540God, I wish futa were real.
>>574015540Doesn't look that good.
>>574015540Name?
>>574015540its not that dynamo faggot is it?
>put on streamer for 5 seconds>playing extremely strong hero>"dooooooood this hero is so weeeeakuh mannnn"I guess this explains why yoshi keeps buffing strong heroes
>>574015930what hero?
>>574016181Graves
>>574016402He's right
>>574015930>50% wr hero >extremely strong
>>574015540Is that spektrus?
>>574015929bighat won
>>574015034>you have residual velocity when you stop moving from a WALKING state>this is somehow intuitive lol
>>574016578this this this. practically speaking, winrates are the only thing that matter. yoshi please buff geist, calico, abrams, haze, wraith and venator they are extremely weak right now, literal throw picks
this is a totally sane damage for a gap closer ability
>>574017292>lists all weak characters besides haze and wraith
ngl abrams actually is probably one of the weakest heroes in the game atm. people are still just so tramuatized from gun abrams that they think he's still S tier, he's not. 42% winrate in E6. F tier hero now
>>574017127>press w>let go>notice your character still moves for a bit after letting gosorry you're blind? i don't know why it matters if it's from a walking state.
>>574017839>press space at a particular wall angle>notice your character moves further than normalsorry you're blind?
>>574017943there's a pretty significant difference in pressing your normal movement button literally anywhere on the map and doing a conditional movement ability at a very specific spot.i'm tired of arguing with you people.
>>574017292>lists a bunch of really weak heroes Yeah, all those bitches need either direct buffs or changes to the game which support their preferred playstyle; and I say this as someone who is supremely annoyed by Wraith as it is but shes a total ult bot
>>574015034>tapping the other direction to stop faster and gain accuracy actually makes sense.How does it make sense that trying to run in the other direction makes you stop faster than literally just stopping?
i genuinely cannot believe how far you people are willing to sink yourselves instead of answering a question.
is yamato's usecase to make glass cannon backliners/high mobility spirit nukers shit themselves?
gunshit ruined deadlock
>>574018149>i'm tired of arguing with you people.Yeah it must be really exhausting to perform the mental gymnastics and double standards required to insist that counterstrafing is super intuitive and anyone could figure it out through normal gameplay just for the sake of crying about movement in Deadlock that you're too shit to learn or performNobody is going to answer your retarded question because it's not worth answering, every game has a million things that you can't know without looking it up beforehand and implying that it should be removed just because you have to look it up is retarded and DSP-tier
spiritslop ruined deadlock
parryslop ruined deadlock
>>574011183Ah, a courier has arrived!
>>574003483Viscous has>the most difficult ult to pilot in the game>the most difficult movement ability to pilot in the game>the most difficult healing ability to pilot in the gameI think it's ok if his 1-grenade is fire and forget
>>574018669why can't people just answer a simple question? >gets a replyno not like that, that one doesn't count. how come people just can't answer me?
>>574017292>winrates are the only thing that matter.that + winrates of people that have 200+ matches with a hero indicating some degree of mastery
>>574015034>>574018149Even if I were to agree with that, counterstrafing is also an extremely important and basic mechanic in CS that you essentially need to learn past the most casual level. An actual comparison to cornerboosting, you know, a somewhat niche and advanced technique that isn't used in every fight and 99% of the playerbase doesn't use at all would be something like silent dropping or run boosting. How about the lineups required at a high level that fundamentally change the things you're allowed to do at round start if you don't know them and/or the enemy does? Fuck, how about the way ladders work?
if only 1% of the players use this so called "niche" tech of edge/cornerboosting how come its a problem if youll never see it happen at your rank
Update.... do-doko....
pocket is fucking trash lol when is my boy getting a buff? literally useless outside of the anti-heal effect ult and just that effect since the dot is pretty mid
>>574020992might get matchmaking update in 3-4 weeks, nothing else till september
VALVE.DO SOMETHING.
>>574020048>>the most difficult movement ability to pilot in the gameI play a lot of Viscous and I don't think this is true, it's pretty easy most of the time, the only issue being if you're getting jumped it's also easy to fuck up.
>>574021695>played games for 20 years and never seen it this baddoubt.jpgAlso>trawling reddit for 8 min old slop to post
>>574021695southern drawl is mentioned like it in itself is a moral failing or that its inherent to incels lol redditors are insane
How do I play gun ivy?should I just be farming after lane until I hit some particular item?
>>573997831>>574015540what attracts sex freaks to deadlock?
>>574021695Do these fags ever get sick of whining about this every other day
is this the perfect viscous build?
Why did i clip through celeste there? Wasnt it suposed to hit? The 2Also Awooo :3
>>574021695self filtered
>>574022668capacitor/siphon are powerspikes, you play her like budget vyper and slide a lotgoing full gun in pisslow is suicide, so you have to focus on either utility or stacking debuffs
>german silver brawl playerdo not engage
>>574021695>35 year old man complaining about bad words being said over a video gamesad
>>574022991>you jump>she lands on your back and slides offprobably some server fuckery, it's like she rubberbanded over your position
Inhibitor is such a bullshit item. Absolutely 0 counterplay.
>beg my team to do mid every time I get 2 picks and enemy is dead for 40s>no one comes >have to just brool until we get an entire team wipe and THEN my team feels safe enough to do midboss when we have fucking stoneform, infernus ult, lash ult and yamato ulteternus has some of the most braindead people sometimes. I just don't get it. they literally have less idea how to close out a game than people in oracle.
>>574023324now imagine it used to be 35% damage penalty and applied with 1 bullet from any range. I used to just run it casually on supports late game because raping the enemy carry's DPS was so valuable.
>>574023568Initiate is the only real elo
>>574023568>be on oracle>people do midboss with entire enemy team up>people get 1 pick and do midboss with dynamo ult up (infernus/ivy too stupid in oracle to contest)
>>574023568They're just KD obsessed pussies which is kinda sad because in being risk averse they wind up making 20% of the plays they could have
>>574012874damn all it took was a guy saying some shit in a video game to get him to break down?what a weak bitch
yoshi really REALLY wants to make Abrahams a melee character but it's his shittiest build???
>>574023031I still feel fucking weak
>>574021695
>>574021695we need to reduce the amount of anti indian racism in deadlock
>>574025313you should behybrid with spirit focus is more consistent
>>574022991Legs don't have a hitbox for spells like Silver's 2 or Billy's 2
>>574023324At least it costs 6k as opposed to any item that lowers fire rate
>>574021695>southern drawl incelAs a black southerner I have to ask what the fuck did he mean by this
>>574026012>legs don't have a hitboxAnother reason that being able to fly around in the air like a faggot is a huge problem in this game.
Thoughts on Ethereal Shit? I feel like I never get much use out of it.
>two weeks until MM update>one month until item update>two and a half months until content update
>try to jump>smack your head on pixels that you wouldn't expect to be an objec>line up the perfect shot>hit an invisible wall>throw one of your spells>gets caught on an unnecessary bit of terrainit's actually astounding how they opt for a third person camera perspective, yet do nothing to solidify its positionas if those 16 extra polygons were going to make or break this unoptimized piece of shit
>>574026246only good on tank niggas or really squishy niggas like mina
>>574026246It's only good on characters that are already obnoxiously hard to kill, like Mina, Calico, Shiv, Victor, etc.
Can I get a /dlg/ approved Venator and Warden build
>>574026114>blackIncel race
>match start>vindicta doing some autistic sperg roleplay in voice chat about niggers and monkeys>feeds 5 kills to shiv in lane>proceeds to cry all game about shiv being OP as he deletes the entire serverare these the elo terrorists people always talk about?
>>574027174mentally ill people are real, and they can ruin your games
>>574027174ggs that was me
>>574026012Interesting way to hardcounter footfags
>>574026252you are being extremely optimistic with those estimates
>>574026252game is already dead so who cares if it updates?
>>574027671those are mildly pessimistic estimates thoughbeit
What are the chances the matchmaking update makes the game significantly worse?I'm pretty pessimistic about most updates at this point, the game keeps going downhill every few months.
I'm starting to think loser's queue is real keeps putting me in games 2 rank tiers below me
>I login>my teammates both day before 2 minutes into the game>I run at the enemy at my lane on repeat>So the they get fed and the game ends fasterFeed FB and I throw your game. No I don't give a fuck I got 3 monitors I just put this dogshit on my side monitor while I play another game. No your faggot master yoshi can't save you either. I control if the game is a win or lose and it feels so good to make you rage.
>>574028378If you weren't there pre-6 heroes update you don't have the right to complain about ded game.
>>574028872you guys really love that picture, do you?
>5 minute queue just to not get the character I wanted and a dogshit matchthanks
>>574028869are you that low priority findom tranny?
>>574028869well thats cool i guess but you're low elo so i wont ever see you
I swear the mm in this game just pins you in certain "areas" and you will just repeatedly climb 5 ranks then get dumped into loser queue again and lose all 5 but then once you get out of that it never drops you below that again
NO MORE GAMES.
>>574028970It's a funny picture.
>>574028604MM is a somewhat technical, solved thing rather than the more nebulous art of game balancing so I doubt it. It will probably feel bad at first, granted, simply because it'll likely have to recalibrate everybody like a new game/season but I'm certain it'll be an overall positive change and even at worst about the same. I'm not saying the current matchmaker doesn't need improvement but I think people might expect a bit too much from an MM system at times and are too quick to immediately determine their teammates don't belong after one game or even a quarter of a game especially in genres like this where games snowball, people aren't always playing their main, and there are MUs to take into account.
>>574029739My MMR/rank has effectively moved zero in the past 3 weeks because it's been a constant win-loss-win-loss-win-win-loss-loss since thenI go up and down after every win and loss it's been that bad
>>574029902I agree, was just wondering because i see it like in every single thread here twice
>>574028604>What are the chances the matchmaking update makes the game significantly worse?Pretty low; matchmaking's problem is that the player pool is too small to have low skill spreads in a lobby, and this is unlikely to change - in either direction - with a MM update
>>574030192...That kinda just sounds like you're exactly where you should be...
What kinda update would rid us of every grifting e-celeb and keep the game alive at the same time?Is it impossible without making their girlfriends cheat on them?
>>574030312correct
>>574029510>>574029312Wrong!
>>574030485So thats a yes on being the low prio findom tranny (low prio =/= low rank)
>>574030485>you're low elo>i wont ever see youwhich part of my post was wrong because all this post did was prove me right
>>574030789>implying e6 players don't get asc-e1 players in their lobbiesgame's dead you'll never get full e4-e6 lobbies
>>574031198that's only true if you play at neet hours the lobby average in my last 5 pages of games is, at worst, e4
whats the correct choice between banning doorman so he isnt on your team (instant loss) or banning mirage so hes not on the enemy team (instant loss)
>>574030789I have a new goal in mind now. I'm going to stop throwing my games and play only meta character so I can grief e6 games.
>>574031418the only acceptable ban choices right now are ivy and kelvin (unless you have a competent duo playing either character)
>>574031198>>574031304Even at unholy hours it's not true, it's very very rare
>>574031530yeah you're probably right
>>574031436Picking Silver is griefing
>you get 3 morons and the other 3 are actually competent have fun! we actually held for 20 minutes with 3 and actually killed four of them with just three in the match because the other 3 were fucking terrible and RQ so the other 3 people on our team were just FACTUALLY worthless the game is giving me factually literally worthless people and is telling me "you can win right?"
>use riposte>it triggers>target the enemy>fly wayyyy the fuck past him into the guardian>dieworthless dogshit hero
why cant I get rem...
They're adding Rouge the Bat to Fortnite.
>>574032393Can you fuck her? Cuz if not I don't care
what the fuck happened to this nigga??????
>>574033167Small sample size
>12 winstreak>get a game where two (2) people try a new hero for the first time>on my team:)
i'm stuck mid oraclecan any phantomgods write some tips and general advice on how to play better? thanks in advanceif you're below my rank don't pass off bad advice please, i'll know immediately so don't try.p.s. i play shiv and venator if that helps
>>574033483I won't give you any advice because you play Shiv.
2026I am forgotten
>>573989728Careful Silver,
>>574033483>shiv>venator>highest winrate hero>lowest winrate herowow what a contrast
>>574033990>>574034514i only play cool characters that are digital representations of my real self. i'm sorry you smarmy cunts only play pocket and celeste but I'm happy for you too
>>574034893what horrific crime did you commit that you are now trying to atone for lol
>>574008252why the fuck would you summon her back here
>>574034893i do this too which is why i play apollo
>>574035450based pinoy
lets behead silver players :D
>>574036303looks like the enemy team already did that on your behalf
>>574036093i'm russian
>>574036303you got one of the waifufags who whine here
>>573995383She smells like bourbon
>>574036835Shiv is about to commit a hate crime
borgor
>>574035450Based Luso
fact: everyone in deadlock is trans
PLEASE decrease pockets reload time I beg
>>574038310fact: this anon will kill himself in ~3 years
fact: Apollo is from Brazil
>>574036835>This is shiv, we call him that because he's all about knives >But he has a gun>Well yea he needs a gun, but he can also throw knives and stab people >But his other hand is holding that jacket. How does he throw knives?>They shoot out of his gun>Okay, and how does he stab people?>a small knife unfolds from his gun and he stabs with that This is all ignoring the irony of a character who got a mechanical arm to replace his missing arm, and still does everything one-handed
>>574034893who asked?
im going to name my kid paige i wonder if their superpower will be about booksim goign to name my kid kelvin i wonder if their superpower will be about temperatureim going to name my kid calico i wonder if their superpower will be around catsim going to name my kid graves i wonder if their superpower will be around gravesso this is le epic valve originality??!!?
>>574039140wait until you find out this guy's name and what he does
>>574039140and abrams? silver? apollo? bebop? celeste? dynamo? grey talon? holliday? ivy? mcginnis? mina? mo? krill? yamato?and many othersdid you ever consider that maybe calico isn't her actual name and just an alias she uses as an assassin? or kelvin isn't his name and just what he started going by after his amnesia? or that graves is her last name and her name is actually Darcy?
>>574039140>im going to name my werewolf kid silver because her weakness is herselfso deep...
>>574039436>abramshe's named like that because he's a tank
>>574039436silver being a werewolf is also on the nose, celeste being a sparkly icon is on the nose, holliday being a cowboy is on the nose, ivy being a being made of stone is on the nose...
>>574039140I assumed Calico was a nickname.
>>574039506the tank is named after a general tho?
>>574039585the general would have already existed by 1959 or w/e
can someone explain thisfirst wave
>is named drifter>doesn't drift on a caris valve stupid?
>>574039659the m1 abrams, the abrams tank you are talking about, wasn't even designed until the 1970s.it was only even used starting in the 80sthe general its named after only became even slightly relevant in the late 60's let alone a general until the 70sso no
>>574021845Name a more difficult movement ability to pilot then
>>574039668two orbs got denied, by dynamo also denied 2 orbsthe person who denies gets +1 soul and everyone else gets 1 less due to rounding, usually this is distributed randomly but when its a deny situation its always the denierso it makes a difference of 4 souls
>>574039857Abrams was literally Patton's Top Guy, anon...
>>574035450based bratty twink in need of correction
>>574039857>m1 abramsViable?
>>574040587lmaowell since it isn't this clearly debunks him being named after the tank, otherwise the best way to play him would be m1
My two most played characters are Rem and Graves because I'm an annoying twat and take pleasure in being one
>>574040356>paradox>not dishonestcmon now
>>574040356>venator>honestuThat's all I needed to see to know what kind of person you are.
>>574021695I always find shit like this intensely strange.Will never understand people like this think racism is saying a word someone doesn't like or making a joke, as opposed to actually hating a group of people and actively discriminating against them and trying to make things worse for them, that's all fine though as long as they don't say a mean word.Lunacy.
>>574041089Those groups earned their hatred however
>>574040356Why is vindicta in aids tier when grey talon is literally just vindicta but better in every single way?
>>574021695I had a match ruined the other day after a teammate called another a faggot and that guy held it in his heart for the next 40 minutes, guy that said it sounded like a fat fuck too but the said faggot couldn’t let it go instead of coming up with a proper comeback, the VC was a mess from then on.As we’re all dying and losing patron the sensitive retard finally started to berate the fatty (39 minutes late) for his ‘hate speech’ costing us the game
>>574041526Because everyone plays ult build GT and when he just ults people and snipes them its funny and based, hes just finishing off people running away.when vindicta pulls up and 100-to-0's you, dumps cc, and is in general a dumb bitch its just very cringe
>>574041526grey talon stays up in the air for longer than you can last inside of a fat prostitutevindicta mogs him effortlessly
>>574039140
>>574041621I can't believe he thought it was acceptable to be racist to a fatty, they are a protected class
Why should a seekerGAWD like me care what eternus players think when Metro builds gun mo?
>>574041920um silver is actually S+++ tier still because she just is ok
>>574041920>he thinks gun mo is badLearn 2 aim
>>574041920chat is this real?
>>574041981Is gun mo viable? I haven’t played him much but his output feels like a super soaker suggestion to damage
>>574042308mo & krill's gun has higher dps at 35 boons than warden's gun
It'd be cool if there was a day/night cycle like in dota, not for vision though, pure aesthetic
>>574042910the game should always take place at sunset with the sun setting on the archmothers side
>>574042860
>>574043062even if it wasn't true (it is), scorn's damage amp would make it so anyway
>>574042860warden has scaling firerate
>>573990448>>573990643>>574003680normgroids ruined valves (troons) confidence to update this game
Why does fire rate from golden statue buffs/sinners literally just not work?
>>574042860Huh, I never knew. That’s actually interesting; usually see them going full spirit buildsI think it’s the sound design throwing me off mainly, some of the guns in this game sound less impactful than a stapler at times so it plays with my head thinking I’m just throwing the bullets with my bare hands at times
>>574043151>>574043456warden at 35 boons with his base 38.5 spirit from boons taken into account: 114 dpsmo & krill at 35 boons: 122 dps (also has a 15% damage amp which stacks)not saying gun mo is op or that eternus players are retarded for not playing him btw, just giving the raw numbers
>TYIN'EM UP!>TIK TIK TIK!>I CONTROL THE PAIN>IT'S YOU OR ME!>THEY CAN RUN, BUT IT WONT SAVE'M>COM'ON MEET MY FRIENDS>YOUR SOUL IS MINE!>THIS ENDS. NOW!>THE DEAD LEND THEIR AID>THIS PLACE SUCKS!>*wild child like bird noises*
this hero lowkey slaps you just keep stomping people for 1000+ every 3 secunfortunately my silver graves lane was 0-10 so it was an uphill battle i ended up with so much money i had no idea what to buy
>>574043560It's a misleading stat to say with no elaboration or explanation beyond "Number bigger" because there's more to the game than just base stats.Else people would play melee Paige since she can in theory do the most melee damage in the game.
>>574043850>Paige since she can in theory do the most melee damage in the gamewtf?
>>574004059>bully Haze during lane>spends the entire match trying to solo ult>Doorman>never buys unstoppable>allchat gets lit up with anger and insults every stuffed attempt>’pussy nigger faggot pedophile doorman’I don’t understand the Haze playerbase, why are they like this
They need to add a proper healer character with autoaim heal beam and Luna Snow's ult.
>>574043945>Luna Snow's ult.who?
>>574043770What rank is that, ritualist? How are you so low? Aren't you a /d2g/ dotard that's at moderately high rank?
Any ascendant players want to run a match?KY36R
>>574043909Her melee stacks with spirit so it can hit like a mother fucker but it’s a self destructive course to build into melee as her
>>574044089emissary also dota hardly translates to hero shooters im like 2 months in
>>574044130can I join if i'm initiate 1?
>mina guide>tankbusterDropped. Unsubbed. Blocked. Reported for misinformation.
>>574043850>>574043909>>574044147Paige is too squishy with no mobility to be a melee character. It's not that nuanced. Also Calico has higher melee potential with echo shard bombs being able to stack the melee resist shred.In comparison, Warden and Mo are both the tankiest close range characters in the game. Warden gets sustain from barrier. Mo gets sustain from scorn which also gives him damage amp, and is as easy to use as spamming flask. Both imbue QSR to their 1. Both have similar fire rates, with Mo dealing slightly more damage per shot when all pellets hit (his 'shotgun' doesnt have meme spread like Abrams gun). They're not that incomparable.
>>574044345I would like to play with people around my skill level so queuing does not take too long.
>>574044328I got to asc 4 without any issue as a dotard. Would probably climb higher but I'm back to dota for the moment because the last couple of patches have sucked ass.
>>574000531>see Haze try to 1v2 under tower>at quarter HP>gets stomped>spends the entire match flaming their team in all chattruly a character for subhumans
>>574043456Mo doesnt build gun because half the time he’s burrowing and can’t shoot
>>574043576>"The baroness awaits">genuinely feel a sigh of relief and relaxation that I can take a break from the team fight
>>574044574yeah i dunno i had to climb from initiate 1 but i literally got matched with someone who didnt even have a rank in an archon game yesterdayi'll get there eventually my win rate is hovering around 60%
>>574044805Yeah keep coping.
Which patron is likely to call their team dumb niggers if theyre losing?
Just remembered a Rem game I had last night where I was in lane against a Haze and Geist who kept getting visibly angry that I used cover to deny them souls. Those kinds of moments are what I live for
>>574044473>Warden uses his movement/DR ability and he can still shoot people>Mo cannot>Warden uses his ult and can shoot people, even getting bonus DPS on anyone he's vaguely looking at>Mo cannot fire his gun>Warden's CC makes people sitting ducks that take bonus bullet damage>Mo's CC does notThe only singular ability that makes Mo potentially more suited to gun than warden is their 1.In all other abilities its worse.And as you mentioned, Mo has spread which means that he only does more base damage if warden has no extra spirit scaling and mo never misses even a singular pellet.It's just such a stupid argument to make. The numbers aren't everything, there's a reason you will STRUGGLE to even find a gunmo build let alone one people run regularly or win with.
I had a dream i was playing Rem and he had a flamethrower
>>574045195Hidden King bro what the fuck is this question?
>>574045409I dunno, man. Seems too obvious. The Archmother is more likely to let her mask slip when pressed and drop a hard r and then deny it ever happened.
>>574001046real question is how do we rework Haze to have a actual interesting kit
>5 game loss streak
>game lost because bloodcyka spiralled hopelessly out of control off his lane feeding on cooldown>check statlocker>literal five whole rank gap between him and the two people he was againstSeparate solo queue can't come soon enough
>>574045195>>574045409>>574045518The older I get, the weirder this sites obsession with the word nigger is, gotta be underage. Why the fuck would an outer god use that when all of humanity is the same equally insignificant speck
>>574045598I haven't won a single match since I started playing
Got my ass carried as venator after dying 10+ times. Feels good
>>574045807I just think its funny. Imagine in a teamfight and suddenly the Archmother screams "STOP THEM YOU STUPID NIGGERS THEYRE KILLING US!"
>>574045883spaceyou got a walker right?
>>574045807>Why the fuck would an outer god use that when all of humanity is the same equally insignificant speckThen why wouldn't they? If nothing matters and it's all bullshit why not use the most insulting word?
>>574045807>Why the fuck would an outer god use thatTo be a asshole mainly
>>574045807>Why the fuck would an outer god use thatsame as doorman participating in the ritual just to fuck with mortals
>>574045769>check statlockerisn’t that place a goddamn mess when it takes manual player submissions for half its data?Might as well judge the weather by throwing a sandwich at the wall
>>574046154is the doorman on the same level as the patrons or what?
>>574043850Mokrill has the higest base health in the game +scorn so he can get away with building gun
>>574043945Stfu tf2 nigger
>>574039436>abramstank>silverwerewolves are weak to silver>celestehalf her abilities are star themed>dynamohe carries a black hole within his body, an immense store of power>grey talonhas owl familiar>hollidaydirect reference to Doc Holliday, who I guess in-universe could be her grandad>ivyliterally throws ivy at you>mina hareference to mina harper, draculas love interest
>>574046214Kinda? He’s a baby patron really that joined out of boredom and intrigue
>>574046214The entity known as "The Doorman" is an ancient extraplanar fledgling god and cosmic being[5][6][7] who used to slaughter and torment humans a long time ago, feeling glee at their fear and misery.[8][9][10]At some point, the fledgling god decided to experience life on Earth disguised as a human for a few weeks, and somehow became involved with the Baroness Hotel in New York as soon as it opened.[8] He adopted the title of "The Doorman" as his name to stay grounded in his new role,[11] and enjoyed it so much that he has stayed at the Baroness ever since.The Doorman is capable of warping reality and bending space and time.[12][13][14] He claims to be able to see the future, although it's unknown if he's bluffing about it.[15] It's implied that the Doorman weakened himself to live amongst humanity.[16][17] The Doorman calls the Patrons "old friends" and refers to them as City Mother and Amber King.[36][37]Both Patrons are seemingly familiar with the Doorman, with their heralds expressing surprise and joy at seeing him fighting on their behalf.[38][39] They respect the Doorman and view his murderous side as "who he was meant to be".[40] he doesn't have to be their equal but he is basically smurfing on everyone else in the roster.
>>574046195It's obviously messy and incomplete as far as general data goes but you can simply flip through someone's recent match history and see what rank of games he's usually in.
>>574045518the hidden king is the obvious one, but so is the archmother because if the hidden king was the obvious choice then the actual obvious choice would be the archmother so the least obvious choice would be the hidden king
Pure spirit mokrill is viable because he has the highest base health in the game + Scorn
>>574045075whatever bro you're gonna get rank reset lol
>>574045937Nope
>>574046509Oh, a wise guy, huh? *Shoves a watermelon in your ass*
Pure vitality mokrill is viable because he has the highest base health in the game + Scorn
>>574046624heh.......now for the turn boys and girls!*contracts sphincter, crushing the watermelon and using the resulting force to propel myself into the sky*rem, watching from afar>well I guess thats why they call him the amazing Henry
I think I'm just not going to play this game until they severely nerf the movement trannies. I am not autistic enough to spend 20 hours in practice mode learning edge boosts and if you dont half the time people just hop out and get away from you. Makes the game ass
>>574046624GUH
>>574045807Nigger is the most powerful word in the English language. If you can't say it, how could you possibly be a god?
>>574046954A powerful word to describe the most powerful humans
>>574008324Neither would you. Quake punishes you ridiculously hard for "movement teching" like a moron.
>Every other MOBA in existence has non-ranked queue>Deadlock decided to not do thisWhy?
>>574048202they'll probably make one when the game actually releases and the casuals can play
>>574046385based schizo
>>574048202Hardcore gamers only
>>574048202Because Valve looked at the stats and saw that 90% of matches are played in ranked (9% are meme modes)
>>574048202because the game had sub 10k players so both modes got merged
>>574048202They did have solo ranked only for a bit but then stacks couldnt beat up on solo players so they cried until valve reverted it. Solo only was god tier fun not only cause you dont fight stacks (which is perfectly fine) but because boosted retards werent at your mmr since they had to earn it all alone
>Be McGinnis>Consistently hit my walls>Get my Mina going 7/1 before laning phase is over>Seven drops the fucking ball and goes like 3/15 and feeds a Gheist>Shiv starts taking his weirdly misplaced anger out on me (Given I was 2/10/30 but im trying to get niggas fed I can do without kills if it means my team wins).>Shiv just goes full toxic and doesnt understand the point of support means supporting your carries and your team>Starts pointing to my souls as if souls even mean anything compared to the power of your build>Still was melting people in the end but cant win a 1v6 when our team is a bunch of retardsShout out to the M&K too who when we'd get a braindead easy pick decided NOT to use his ulti until I was running away because I had the fools notion that he was going to use it for an easy kill...Also the Haze who got like 3 good picks but couldnt get a walker to save her life holy fuck
>>574042860unironically how does yoshi even justify nerfing warden's gun scaling per boon 5 times and his gun is still 17 base mag with a pisslow fire rate and velocitythe other gun carries get large mag sizes and fast fire rates by default
>>574048343>Ranked doesnt exist>Add ranked and dont add a casual queueExplain your logic and your source.
>>574048675In dota 90% of matches are ranked and the majority of the rest are meme modes.They added street brawl for the casuals as there's no point in adding an unranked mode.
>>574048796Deadlock isn't Dota 2.>They added street brawl for the casuals as there's no point in adding an unranked mode.Your Dota example still has casual queue so this argument doesn't work.
This is a phantom match btw. Haze can't be good for a single patch, people under ascendant just literally cannot stop themselves from feeding her
>>574048946Dota has turbo which is like 90% of the non ranked games.
>>574049017I wish there was a like "test your character!" mode so when Haze or Bebop get a 0.0001% damage decrease I dont see EVERY FUCKING HAZE AND BEBOP PLAYER TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY CHANGED AND THEN DUNNING KRUGER-ING THEMSELVES INTO FEEDING HOLY FUUUUUUUUUCK
by this logic is wraith named wraith because wraiths are spook-y ghosts and she's black
>>574049040Dota 2 still has casual. Also Deadlock is not Dota. Don't know why you even brought it up.
>>574049232Keep playing dumb you fucking moron.
>>574049325I asked about Deadlock and you brought up Dota 2 for no reason and now you're mad because I didn't ask about Dota 2. Grow up.
why do people care about killsthat shit is just the last hit
Dota 2 has a dead casual mode which is why it wasn't brought over. He's right you're being dense.
>>574049017There is literally zero way to punish a haze. Invisibility is utterly broken. She can choose EVERY engagement. The only way to stop yourself from blowing up is by staying together which means you fall completely behind if they just farm and dont fall for the countergank bait.
>>574049382You know damn well why I brought up Dota.
>>574049408this, instead of yelling at teammates for being low kills why aren't we yelling at them for being behind on souls?
>Pretending to be somebody else and doubling down on talking about Dota 2>>574049491>"Hey man, I wonder why this car doesnt have AC">"ERM, TANKS DONT HAVE AC, RETARD!!"Thats you
>>574048467McGinnis is only good at one thing and thats being an annoying faggot character and supporting.The funniest fucking thing from being in Asc to going to Alchemist is that people think the most retarded thing in the world.It doesnt matter if you have 80% of the teams kills in assists, one random guy will see "16k" on your souls or whatever and think your borderline retarded because they think a build is the shiniest tier 4's they can buy.My absolute favorite is telling someone why Urn 100% is not worth contesting if we're losing by a shit ton and why the only things that matter is mid boss, walkers, and base towers because we can backdoor them.I swear the cog in their head grinds to a halt because they see shiny thing and NEED shiny thing.
>>574049574what are your thoughts on movement trannyism infecting deadlock
>>574049574Do you're just pretending to be retarded, gotcha.
>>574049468This dude bought extra spirit into surge of power into burst fire as his three first items. The counterplay is to just fucking kill her. Haze has 0 hp and gets instantly blown up by almost any hero. Just turn around and kill her
>>574048426"strict solo queue" in dota is the best shit everit was really funny when they had separate solo and team mmr as well and how many people got buttblasted by not being able to duo queue and go up in the only rating anyone thought relevant (solo)
>>574049763green items are a meme
>>574049701I accept your concession.>>574049653I don't think trannies at all because I don't have an obsession like you.
does anyone actually use the m2 zoom?I have never used it at allbut someone in my game said he snuck up on somehow who was "clearly" zoomed in and not lookingand it got me thinking wtf people actually zoom in?
@574049936this dude loves trannies
>>574049164
>>574050005I use it all the time
>>574048569they're prioritizing his frontliner identity over his gun carry identity
@574050057>"If you don't think about how everything relates to trannies then you must love them"Weird projection
>>574050109yeah but i was thinking against players though...almost like some sort of... casual mode?i dunno might be too extreme for Yoshi to wrap his smooth brain around
>didnt play a second of deadlock today>played motor town: behind the wheel instead>actually felt 1000x better mentallyIm uninstalling this garbage lmao
>>574046474>he is basically smurfing on everyone else in the rosterPetition to make smurfing only alloud if you only play doorman
>>574050005I use it all the time on Vinnie and rarely on Paradox when using carbine as a bargain bin Vinnie ult
>>574050345
https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1uweg2s/the_amount_of_homophobic_comments_racism_and_just/UGH can you guys like... not?
>>574050404buy an ad dweeb
whoever decided affliction should go through walls should be shot
>>574050754it doesn't, sir
>>574050578Thats a different mode. People want laning but without the stakes.
>>574050005damage falloffs are too drastic for zooming to ever be required
>>574050786then it has the buggiest hitboxes in existence
>>574049936>autist thinks calling something autistic or tranny means literal autism or tranniesno wonder youre fixated on the dota 2 comparison your brain isnt wired for compromises
>>574050649go back
>>574050963Whoops sorry. Meant for: >>574049701
Who are the best split pushers?
>Playing Haze mid with a Seven as my lane partner>Say "going yellow">Go gank blue>Look at my seven>At the enemy sinners, gets followed by both lane opponents and dies>"wtf where did you go haze"this game makes me lose faith in humanity
>>574049936Valve made dota 2.They have the statistics from dota 2.They make deadlock based on said statistics.Why is this surprising to you, are you a retarded tranny or something?
Played two games, afkd in fountain twice today, another great day of deadlock
why doesnt yamato's grapple follow the same rules as billy's chain
>teammate goes gun calico>exit game without pressing abandon and change accounts>teammate goes gun holliday>exit game without pressing abandon and change accounts again>teammate goes gun holliday AGAIN>exit and change accounts 4th time>gun doormanrescue beamed his ass into a walker stomp then alt+f4'd
>>574036835I TRIED TO BE NICE
>>574051497Okay but dota 2 isnt deadlock. They tried adding a comp mode to TF2 and it flopped so.... Not sure what youre trying to get at, bucko.
>>574051898Because yamato is a hero for boosted niggers
>>574051359Why did you say you were going yellow if you went blue
>>574052362I mistyped, i said i went yellow and went yellow
>>574052286I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're trolling because there's no conceivable way you're this fucking dense.
yeah im getting matched with the most retarded retards again now my bad for winning 3 games solo i guessfucking dogshit nigger yamaots that cant even take out a 0 cooldowns haze 2v1like what the fuck are these people
Just had a game where 3/6 players on my team bought exclusively green items and just typed "greeen" in chat all game, even though no one else in the game was typing at all, was really embarrassing.The other 2 players were not playing well but were fine, dont think any 3 of us deserved that, and I don't think the people who only bought green items were having near as much fun as they were pretending to.
>>574052554incredibly based
The thing about this game is that in theory someone is having fun playing it, but its never me
>>574052504>"Hey, why doesnt this game do x">"Well, in <completely unrelated game> they dont do x because y"
>>574052714>dota>completely unrelated game>when it's Valve's second game in the genre developed by the same guy that made the first game in the genreThanks for confirming you're trolling. Have this pity (You).
>>574052990Deadlock is Dota 2?
>finally break into ascendant>alarm sounds>WEE WOO WEE WOO PROGRESS ALERT PROGRESS ALERT DEPLOY THE ELO AGENTS>next game we kill the enemy lane 3 times before my laner says "i'm bored" and alt f4's 7 minutes in>one after that my abrams does 9.8k damage in 43 minutes>next one my kelvin just wordlessly leaves after our team successfully ganks our lane>minus a full rank every lossgreat game glad i opened it
>>574053018its dota 2 2 dumbass
seriously why queues are taking more than 5 minutes???
I hate the faggot arab so much>try to trade in lane>applies infinite dmg mark and retreats to tower to plink me with the faggot gun ignoring damage falloff I have to interact with>try to gank>"I WILL NOT GIVE YOU A DOLLAR">tornadoes awayI want to rip out the eyeballs of people who play this annoying piece of shit.
>play mirage>don't really know what I am doing>show up to every fight>spread debuffs on everyone>his 1>toxic bullets>spirit shred>escalating>healbane>his 3>don't die>finish game>win>2/0/23>low as fuck damage>team were complimenting me all gamewhat the fuck just happened
>>574052449but... what about blue?
dynamo niggers will really log on just to solo ult a guy that was at 100hp
>>574053151hmm yes today i will gank the character with a movement ability but i will not be buying slowing hex first surely it will work this time
>>5740531082 Dead 2 Lock
>>574053143because nobody wants to play a dead no content in six plus months alpha number changing game so it puts in players from every rank
just think what would /ourguy/ piggy do?
>>574050005Once in a blue moon when I'm trying to finish someone across the lane on a sliver of health but that's it.
>>574053050>Anon is feeling happy and making progress. Queue into his match and throw his games to bring him back down
streetbrawl is good but if you are dead when overtime starts you should get your death timer extended because being punished for killing someone .1 seconds before overtime starts is retarded
the amouint of games ive losted because i cant call mid because im muted is insanelike fuck people rather afk in front of walker than take mid up 3 people
>>574053246I think you should have toothpicks driven under your finger and toe nails if you play dynamo
>>574053818welp lost another fukcing game because my team is just mumbling maybe we can go mid guys lets go mid guys i think its fine we can mid right and im standing there attacking solo while they all afk at the top doing literally fucking nothing liger nigger baboons holy shit im about to delete this game
>>574053317>/ourguy/ Is metro
We need unranked, so people can stop bringing their newfag shitter friends into ranks they don't belong in, what the fuck are you doing being 1-13 and farming jungle while there's a rift fight a few sprints away
im fucking losing it THESE FUCKING GAMES ARE SO LOW SKILL HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THESE FUCKING BABOONS QHO CANT EVEN GO MID IN 41 FUCKING MINUTESTHESE PEOPLE ARENT REAL
whats he talking about we dont even have that many
>>574053818Have you considered behaving like a human being so that you don't get chat restricted?
>Team Fortress 2 compared your own personal stats instead of comparing you to other people for self-growth>In Deadlock the only thing that matters is if you win or not, not how well you performedTruly this is matchmaking based on skill.
>>574054018Nothing like doing a call to go mid and people going for it 40 secs later invalidating any sort of timing advantage and throwing the game with it.
>>574054134>enemy team has lash/dynamo/rem/seven/pocket/paige>rift starts and their ults are upyeah I'm not going in there
>>574054312>picks the characters that get countered by slowing hex>whines when people buy slowing hexthese faggots lol
also theres a fucking nigger celeste abuser in my basecongrats i guess
Everyday we get closer to a patch with the note>Sinclair deletedBut god I wish it was today.
>>574054353t. that kid in middle school who reminded the teacher to assign homework
lack of community servers and server browser killed this game why does yoshi hate something that's been in games since the olden time
>>574054442>>574054312What is he even complaining about, Celeste is barely countered by Slowing Hex, it doesn't shut down any of her abilities
>>574054312Ivy's little gremlin smile adds a lot to this image.
>>574055106How can they enforce eomm with that thought?
>>574055106I'm not joining your server so you can ban me when you die, unc.
>>574055106>community server for a mobaFucking idiot
>>574055418kay have fun with one hour queue times with literal random retards in your games for another hour
>>574054312>S+++++ilver on fireThis is Seeker rank, I just know it
>>574055836youre close
It honestly feels worse to try and carry my friends with an actual carry than with a character like Mina.
>>574054312>egg at 29 minutes in eternus cool
>>574055928horseshoe theory
>>574056112You don't edge your egg?
>>574055928Delete this.
>>574055928Sometimes it surprises me how many high elo players we have but I also wonder why everyone is so quick to cry Seeker. You'll turn into the boy who cried Seeker if you keep doing that
I SHIT in the margherita cups
>>574056593Okay ivy
>>574056112there are a LOT of people who just meme build and instead of it being because they don't know any better it's because they're bored or just don't give a fuck
>graves does nothing but push/farm waves and plays like a mega pussy>since the game goes past 30 minutes she just wins
>>574056542Seekers are more vocal about their awful opinions.
>>574056542an e6 is a seeker who played 3000 hours
>>574056864GRAVES DESTROYING APOLLOS MICROPENIS WITH HER MEGA PUSSY WHILE THE ZOMBIES LAUGH AND POINT WHILE APOLLO CRIES IN SHAME
>>574056769But what's so fun about losing 10% of your damage? You are down 40k. Egg isnt going to fix that. You might have won if you actually had more damage to tip some fights and with more stats you might have lost out on more than the 10% egg says. It's like just an item retards think is free scaling when it's really really not
>>574057658so many people straight up just lie about the egg damage>oh its only weapon damage>oh this spell actually isn't scaled by egg>no no my build is support I don't need the damageegg is -10% damage right at the end of all your multipliers, idk why so many cope and try to say it actually doesn't impact their character. you farm slower with egg so you end up getting less souls than it would provide, not to mention how it means certain people will get away that would have otherwise died.egg is not completely retarded on a few heroes, it isn't good on them, its just not hilariously awful.its really bad on everyone else though and so many people buy egg and its just like aight bro guess you ain't contributing for 30min
>>574057658It's more likely the dude just forgot he had it
>40k HOLY SHIT IS THAT A REFERENCE???
>>574021695>southern drawl incelsImagine dancing around the word redneck/hillbilly like this lol what a cowardly fag. Dude has his own prejudices about white people but god forbid he hears a single utterance of Power Word: Nigger
>>574054420i cant stand all the brits and irish yapping about maybe doing something im fucking losing it where are all the arabs and russians
>if you arent the carry your match impact is zerohow am I supposed to climb as a tank/support player when my owm personal performance doesnt mean shit. the MM will still drop me a rank after I won 3 games in a row and lost 1 game where I was positive KD
>>574058367basic abrams fundamentals will genuinely carry you to phantom minimum
>>574058367Your Dynamo? Your Ivy? Your Doorman? Your Abrams? Your Mo? Your Victor? Your Billy? Your Kelvin? Your Viscous?Genuine skill issue
>>574058471>basic abrams fundamentalsand those are...?
>graves zombies and rem helpers doing 100% damage to minions/creeps>perfectly fine>mcniggis turrets only allowed to do like 10% damage to them>cold front/arctic blast allowed to do 100% damage to creeps/minions>alch fire does literally nothing to eitherand 100 other bullshit arbitrary balance decisions from yoshi king of bad balance
>>574058664Sorry to many people complained about split pushing so they just had to nerf some shit
>parry sinclair as i get out of bunny>tokyo drift music starts playing as he does a complete 180 in 0.1s when my animation comes upsure buddy
>>574050667no nigguh
>play silver>pick some build>lane is complete ass, rest of game complete ass, die 18 times>pick another build next game>mvpim never picking a build that says togetherdl again how the fuck do you start 2 over 1
>>574052554green
>>574059327why don't you try thinking for yourself instead of following a guide like gospel?
>Play Venator>In the jungle>See Drifter >Snoopingas usual, are we?>We both have a tard battle>I kill him but die to dot damage right after
>>574059742because i have like 15 silver games and i assume some streamer top build means they're e6 and know shit
>>574059938some of them just make builds for every character even if they don't play them
I need a paradox wife
>>574058367anyone can be a carry, just buy the right items
who is the most gay coded character and why is it mo&krill?>a sassy twink riding around on his mute autistic bear lover
>>574060070>2 bros have an unbreakable brotherhood >Immediately has gay thoughts
>>574060070you might just be a faggot dude
>>574060070>thinks its two bros>instead of literally zesty faggot on the castnigga u think that two people can't be friends unless they are gay?but you don't think lash is gay?lmao u absolutely certainly gay and just hoping mo &/or krill are
>>574060070cant think of anything more gay than apollo
>>574060070
>>574060070only you would get that impression
Why do people intentionally parry the tower? Is it for the izzat?
>>574058471>>574058652you can definitely carry games on non-carries you just have to accept that sometimes your team won't be able to end fast and the game will completely slip through your fingers if the enemy team has 2-3 lategame scalers
>>574061104save trooper HP so you can shoot the tower longer
>>574061104stops it attacking for a little and lets you heavy melee it to make up for the damage you'd lose by stopping to parry
5 minute queue waht the fuck is going on
>>574061104so it doesn't CC you when you're diving someone
>>574060235>>574060323>>574060518>>574060856>>574061045>no&skill players getting triggered for calling their hero gayI thought you all would have thicker skin from playing a tank, anyways who bottoms mohammed or kareem?
>>574060070mo isnt actually an autistic mute he just doesnt talk to randomsits in one of their conversations, cant remember which
>>574061931I have NEVER
playing rem so i can watch house of the dragons
Has anyone made art of Lash hanging Celeste like in that one tranny image?
>>574062539lash is one of the only actual faggot characters, a red hankerchief hanging off your belt in the time period deadlock takes place in has a very clear meaning.
>>574063018>In the LGBTQ+ "hanky code," wearing a red handkerchief (or bandana) in a back pocket signifies an interest in fistingVery interesting that youre aware of this fact, anon.
>>574063248actually it's a pink sock
this isn't fucking dota 2no teams "needs" a support
someone link me a gun warden buildi'm on a 5 loss streak surely it's just a build problem
intiate
>>574064224>gun wardendoesn't exist anymore, his gun got nerfed 5 patches in a row
>>574037735... which smells good, yes
>>574064343i'm aware, but i only enjoy the game when i'm snowballing as a gun carry and i want to play a tank
okay i finally got around to playing a game and did terrible how do i improve do i really have to watch back my own 45 minutes of gameplay
flying characters are such horrendous fucking design in a game with damage falloff this drastic
Pocket is exclusively referred to with they/them pronouns in game and in lore, it doesn’t matter that their voice is deep or whatever, they’re still non binary.I say this because I myself am non binary, and I’m sick of all non binary characters getting misgendered. It’s clearly prevalent enough that this sub gives you a reminder of their pronouns when their name is used in a title or text body.On top of this, if you know they use they/them but still use he/him (or she/her, but I haven’t seem people call them a woman before), that’s transphobic (I understand that it can be hard to adjust, but making an effort isn’t hard, and i also understand that some languages don’t have gender neutral terms)
>eternus 1>play a game>fucking boring shit, either stomp or be stomped>go to street brawl>1000x more funMOBAs are just dogshit aren't they?
>>574065403yes
rimming apollo
>>574065128not reading all that and its really bad bait, here's a pity (you), total tranny death btw
>>574065403>>574065445
>>574050184>>574048569Because the dev team are retarded and can't balance for shit. Warden's ult is still total ass and his cage only works when people don't buy counterspell/dispel magic (So never)
>>574064871Don't watch any guides or gameplay videos on the game. Keep feeding until you understand your weakness and how to replace it with unfiltered toxicity
ivys voicelines are so weird. they're not gramatically accurate spanish, meaning they were written by AI/a white person who used google translate yet they're voice acted by a native spanish speaker who i guess didn't give a fuck enough to correct the lines
>>574066119Shes a gargoyle, bro.
>he thinks Spanish is a real language
>>574066182if that's your excuse shouldn't her english also be bad and stupid?
I .. am NOT.... dying... .HERE!!!>dies 1 second later at that exact location
>>574053143Because nobody wants to play the main game mode with...>30+ minute matches>5+ minute queue times>Games that are decided in the first 10 minutes>No draft>half the cast being overpowered>Half the cast being dogshitStreet brawl is much better since if the game sucks, you can just throw until it's over.
>>574064590I'm the same way. Trust me bro you don't wanna play facetank gun warden anymore. That shit is terrible this patch.But if you really hate yourself, I use the zerggy build.
>>574066258Gargoyles dont care about grammar
Either remove knockupfrom ram or remove it from bashdown
>>574064590You used to be able to do that with Warden and Abrams, but they nerfed their guns over and over again to the point where they basically don't matter outside of lane.
what kind of fucking faggot plays victor in street brawl
you guys aren't ready for the green apollo conversation
>when it’s a 45 minute match and you have a stomp dynamo on your team who’s 7/3 with no mobility items and a refresher and whenever a fight starts he runs away then lectures you on how well he’s doingSome people play this game like it’s cod when it’s actually looney tunes
>>574066871>refresher dyanamo That item is the only thing dyanamo needs since he can just quantum leap into the enemy team. Everything else is just extra.
Why can Valve not just let players have comeback mechanics? Why fucking restrict everything just to give it to snowballers?
>>574067364There are a trillion comeback mechanics in the game already. You can't swing too far in the other direction or else you'll end up in a situation like that one urn patch where teams were feeding so they could get the comeback resists.
>10 times we reached their base and sieged the patron>10 times we team wiped all but victor>10 times we wailed on him for fucking hours and hours despite having antiheal and antitank items>10 times he just sat there denying the objective>10 times he double ulted because he bought refresher>10 times the drooling inbred faggot just sat there, making the patron invulnerable until his team respanwed>lose game because Victor is allowed to be an invincible brick wall for some retarded reason>mfw he still got top healingFucking delete this nigger character immediately
>>574067515Make this post 10 times, I'm not finished with you yet.
>>574067515you just need 1 inhib against him. or 1 crippling headshot
rape
>tfw lucky to get 25k healing as support rem with chard,nova and beam>casually get 65k healing as abramsnerf tanks self sustain holy shit and let supports heal
>>574067912How the fuck are you healing that little with rem, I get 40k+ even on non-heal builds.
>>574067074when have you ever seen anyone get black holed through a fucking quantum leap
>>574068052Yes
>>574067515Listen anon, special needs players have special needs. That's why we added Victor and Graves.
>graves has a 51% winrate in eternusBut I thought she was only OP in shitlow?
>>574064212I hope they never add defined roles
I just watched Seven shit on Mina. And thats not a metaphor. He ulted and pulled his pants down then dropped a steaming load right on her head
I want to kiss Graves...
Why are Paige players like this?
>>574068557Don't care, buff Graves.
>>574069145>posted on 4chan posted to reddit reposted back on 4chan
Viktor is the plague that the community complains about needing 6 different items to counter but genuinely what the fuck do you do about lash? gotta have slowing hex, kncokdown, counterspell, a shitload of sr all just for him to still be a massive threat because his ult is THE best in the game
>>574015540Deadlock players got issues fr
I haven't done much m1ggering in a good while. did they buff lucky shot or something? I don't remember seeing it very often but now it's in half the builds i look at
>>574069185I saw it on Twitter first
>>574069332stop posting your gay boyfriend
>>574069145uggghuuu god uhhhhh *cums*
>>574016762It is.
>>574064990Horizontal fall off only
>>574069332why are wyte bois like dis fr
I swear all I ever do in this game is babysit objectives. If I so much as think about leaving to do something else they get taken down. Even when I do my job well it just means losing the game more slowly.Initiate btw. Idk what my team is spending all their time doing - literally none of the farm & sinners are taken. wtf do I do about this? Help me escape this hell.
>>574069332>Why yes I was born on the wrong side of the Iron Curtain, why do you ask?
>NO MORE GAYS
>>574069858>ASS BLAST
1guy2jars
>>574070018d-double f-f-fisting???
>>574070018so anachronistic fuck valve "writing"
>>574069810Play graves
>>574070197>first gay character gets added to deadlock>its the fucking urn
So this is the Deadlock community, huh?
>>574069810there's a lot of babysitting in low rank. There's a lot of times you're like 20/0, and you'll want to press your advantage and make plays, but you'll still have to spend a lot of time being a lane janny because your teammates just want to run around in circles or whatever.
>>574070431imagine how much worse it would be if not for the brave chuds typing nigger 20x a game to keep the troons at bay
>>574070431more like agent 43%
>>574070431We RuZZians are keeping the EU servers safe from troonism
more like ruLLians
they should let you leave the game if you dont get the character you want when the queue pops
>>574070728draft is going to cause another mass exodus. probably sub 10k by EOY
How much joechuck do I have to watch to get good?
>>574050184>frontliner identitywhat identity? all the frontliners i can think of have massive resists, passive healing, or hard cc built into their kits but warden instead has >a barrier that's mediocre as fuck until tier 3>most nothing burger cc that only does something at tier 3 and requires you to build into it completely to actually land>aoe CONE drain on a slow as fuck character
>>574070812you don't get good by watching like a little cuckboy
>>574070786Deadlock is going to go EOS soon, there will be no EOY
>>574070972it will never go EOS because deadlock is a psyop to make young white men trans
>>574069145see >>573997831
>>574069332And white people genuinely believe that they deserve to live and not be replacedLMAO
>>574070845unironically if they want to make warden a frontline hero they should actually fucking do itgive him a hard cc ability he can actually reliably hit, give him a passive lifesteal so he has baked in survivability instead of this gay ass temp barrier, make his ult actually a fucking threat and something enemies can't easily run away from, give him a real movement ability that enemies want to avoidmake him a REAL frontline hero
>>574073248he has 5k hp and a 1k shield every 5 seconds xister
this is a good new player experience i think
>>574070412vyper would fuck anything with a heart beart (and even then) but billy pines for lash and mirage
Vindicta fuckin sucks, stop picking her
if the krill remodel doesn't come with the next update i'm going to lose it
>>574073814It doesn't need a remodel
>>574073814nah they'll remodel mo instead
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Xwk5PgouNxgjust tell this to the racists in chat
>>574073773something something suck her toes
The thing that bothers me the most about Vindicta is that her gun doesnt sound at all what you think it would.
>>574073773She's fun tho...
>DISENGAGING sigil>t1 upgrade gives you fire rate and bullet speed so you can engageValve masterminds
>>574074439Her weapon should be a bolt action rifle
fucking impossible to do damage as holliday now what the fuck she wasn't even that bad why did they nerf her into being useless
>>574075226maybe a heros shouldnt be super mobile, deal extremely high damage, and have huge cc
>>574075226>WAAH WAAH WHY CAN'T I WIN WITH MY SUPER OP BUSTED TOON ANYMORE
>>574073559Yeah and no reason to actually focus on him since they nerfed his damage, his CC is bad, and his ult sucks. His shield is bad unless you max it, unlike Celeste's shield which is amazing right out of the gate.
>>574075278>extremely high damageshe didn't even have that and they nerfed her. bebop does way more damage AND scales infinitely and they haven't nerfed him but holliday gets nerfed the moment she can deal half of that? its bullshit
>>574075384>toonkys
>>574075226Because she is incredibly annoying to play against due to being hyper-mobile. Having characters like Holliday is unhealthy for the game.>>574075393Bebop has no mobility at all and is a gigantic target. He does not do good damage, either.
>>574075384>getting killed by holliday>everlol nice self expose seeker-kun
is there some resource or guide out there of how to lane vs each hero? i just got crushed by a mirage + yamato lane and i wanna know how i was supposed to play it
>>574075463>>574075483I accept your concession
>>574075569Who were you playing as? Mirage and Yamato are overpowered as fuck right now.
>>574075393>bebop does way more damage AND scales infinitelyI've never really felt like Bebop does a lot of damage. Regardless, he also can't fly around the map away from any danger while raining down giant AoE explosives.
>>574075482>bebop downplayer forgets to mention that he gets holliday's ult on a 10 second cooldown
>>574075570go play ToonTown redditor
>>574075601i was playing wraith and my lane partner was ivy
>>574075667Wraith is pretty OP too but in lane she has a harder time against characters that can just dive on her like Yamato, since your retard-proof teleport ability isn't on a short cooldown to start.
>>574075393except bebop has no movement and if you caatch him hes dead
I don't know why they nerfed silver so hard. she's always been a weak pick, C tier at her supposed peak. nearly impossible to get kills in her wolf form but they nerf the shit out of it? explain this
>>574075612Bebop has zero mobility so yes he can bring you to him instead of going to you. If you're playing any of the good characters right now, as in anyone with an overtuned mobility skill, you're fine.
>trooniday pickers think bebop is stronger than troonidayHow dishonest can you get
>>574075730yeah it felt like when i hung back mirage kept plinking me but when i tried to be aggressive and pressure him yamato power slashed me for a bunch of damagewasn't sure what the correct play was
HOW IS THERE NOT A SINGLE GOOD MATCH TRACKING SITE WHAT THE FUCK BRO
>>574075881Wraith isn't someone who can get in close easily, and Yamato's ult is one of the very few things that can counter Wraith's ult. I personally hate Wraith as a character but I will give you some honest advice anyway.The big issue is that Ivy+Wraith is not a particularly aggressive lane against something like Mirage and Yamato, since Yamato is a tank and Mirage is obnoxiously tanky. In that kind of lane you are better off just farming as best as you can, since Wraith clears camps and objectives super easily and is nearly impossible to gank.
>>574075982Just hire the dotabuff devs if you really care
>>574075982there is no api because h1b coders
>>574075790LET YOSHI COOK
>>574075278> lash exists unmolested
>>574075834nta but why are you people so afraid to reply now? its always this feminine passive aggressive shit talking. its an anonymous image board not high school
>>574075834People like to think Holliday is high skill because of the retarded movement, but it just makes her super easy to play since nobody can interact with you.
>>574076207spirit lash has no damage late game and they nerfed gun lash specifically because he was dealing too much damage
^this guy s gay
>>574076034alright i'll try playing more conservatively next time, thanks
>>574076391Yeah obviously you want to harass and shoot them as much as possible, but Mirage wins harassment trades usually, both of them have a lot of built-in healing so you need to try and out-sustain them. Checking to see if they're both building spirit items in lane and getting some early anti-spirit isn't a bad idea either. Wraith can benefit from Enchanter's Emblem a fair amount, it is one of the best 1600 items to pick up in general. You should probably focus on pushing the lane and then harassing them when you have multiple cards up, since neither Yamato or Mirage can push waves very well, but Ivy and Wraith can clear extremely fast with Kudzu and shooting the creeps. You should make sure Ivy is tethered to you as often as possible also, of course.
>>574076360maybe if lash is behind and your whole team has built nothing but resist.
they should bring back the pre-match staredown, it was infinitely more kino than the lame ass loading screen we have now
>>574077336It was funny yeah there were less pauses too
>>574076808please post your rank I need to see who is complaining about lash damage at the moment
>>574067074I want you to guess how many times this guy used his ult, or quantum leap, or anything besides his faggot stomp.
>doing fine in a match, winning>mouse dies>start losing>start lagging like a motherfucker so no recovery>loseI feel really bad
>>574075607Bebop can snowball your team the hardest out if any character. If you don’t get two points into ult as early as you can, you’re playing him wrong. At 5 minutes he should be at a buff and at a lane that isn’t his securing a kill, otherwise, what the fuck are you doing on him? Hoping your double bomb is going to carry you lategame?
>>574078515>Bebop can snowball your team the hardesta SeekerGOD is speaking, listen and learn>your double bombMy bad, i meant InitiateSULTAN
>>574078653Dont even know what you’re changing your mind about here
Paradox is a bully, I'd say even more than M&K but less than holliday
I'm so sick of getting that stupid fucking rat in my lane. I can't do shit against him and if he's paired with the right lane partner he can just bully my lane for the first 15 minutes. Fuck you, Rem.
>>574078915Yes, and?
>>574079103
>i can't wait to hold m1 the entirety of laning phase and w- ack
>>574075790You are a literal retard if you think infinite healing on kills was balanced. If she ever got fed in lane it was completely over
>get bebop>60% chance that 3 out of 6 of the enemies have iframe bullshit abilities and force me to play the dullest build for him, m1need draft... this gun shit aint fun
>>574075790>silver downplayer #14,051,443 (likely a tranny)you lost
>>574075790>still downplaying silvereternus players the devs nighshift players were all wrong this anon is right! Silver was underpowered thats why she had a high win rate was always first pick in nightshift yes she was sooo underpowered dood
>ignore paradox for most of the game until im forced to see her during the late-game teamfights>see 1 pixel of her across the map>suddenly get hit with a 1000 damage laser beam with another 1000 spirit burn and reverb damagei bought spellbreaker immediately after and she was never a threat again but damn do NOT ignore sniper paradox
>>574079889have you tried buying slowing hex or silence wave instead of your L>R build
Valve artificially boosts streamer ranks so they don't lose interest in the game and stop giving them free advertising
>>574079889As a bebop player youre just bad. You can grab them right before they pop iframes. You dont go echo shard ever, but witchmail which makes iframes only block one instead of both.
>>574075226>fucking impossible to do damage as holliday nowHuh
>>574075226>run in>toss tickle bombs>run back>wait for retard to chase you>lasso into walker and diewow so hard
>>574079894Her e6 winrate was a flat 50% for a good long while HOWEVER
>>574080574Barrels still do good damage you just have to greed for spirit items even harder. You don't need more than maybe one defensive item anyway since you're spamming jump pads.
>not playing headshot hollidaylol
>>574080775Seeker-kun...
>>574080992Its good if you know what you're doing anon
>>574080775Who is she, she looks scary
>>574081065Yes yes and gun calico, gun doorman and gun mo&krill are OP and pros are retarded and all that
>heh thats such a *arbitrary rank i deem below me* take>i am very smartpost your ranks there isnt a chance 95% of retards posting this unfunny bit here in general is above ritualist.
>>574081796Such an oracle thing to say
>>574081497gun calico IS good you're definitely a youtube watcher or some shit do you even play the game?
>>574081796apple fritter 2
>go 15-3 on gray talon >losedamn it feels good
>>574081796I bet you aren't even in Tomtom 1, fuck off
>>574081796Genuine Eternus 5 post lmao you'll never be E6 lil gup uninstall already.
how does ones team collectively shit the bed this hard
>>574082503the other team had billy or abrams or a russian haze on their team
>>574082503Everyone loses lane and then sees that everyone else lost their lane and now their morale is raped and degraded and there's no way to come back.
>>574082503Retards here will say that it’s still winnable and surrender button is not needed
>>574082503Enemy had a fed haze/calico and your teammates were like >time to farm jungle to come back -- oh no I got ganked>time to farm jungle to come back -- oh no I got ganked againad nauseum
>>574080132slow hex doesn't prevent half of the iframe moves in the game, and silence wave is really inefficient (may as well save for curse)
>>574082713the solution? simply deathball in your own jungle and give up objectives :)
>>574082728You still dont have to go gun. You can go melee or build for ult with lightning strike + boundless
>>574082713>time to farm jungle to come back -- oh no I got ganked>time to farm jungle to come back -- oh no I got ganked againOkay, what the fuck are you supposed to do?
>>574082825>meleeproverbially threw up in my mouth>ultbotthat's just a clunkier m1
>>574082853It's pretty hard but you just have to try and kill the enemy. There's absolutely no way you can passively farm because 1) they can gank you obviously and widen the gap 2) if you play safe enough they dont gank you then they're farming more and still widening the lead slowlyThe only option is to force a fight by either charging at the person furthest out of position and hoping you can get them or by baiting a teammate for the fed person then popping out of nowhere to counter gank the fed person. If the fed person dies they have like a 30s increased respawn timer it's crazy good to put them off the map. Not to mention bonus souls.>>574082927Then dont play the hero with TWO melee damaging abilities if you dont like melee. Sounds like you just dont like bebop and shouldnt play him.
>billy>calls the enemy shiv racist or something after dying or killing him idk>glitches>hol up lemme reload>abandons
>>574083386A real Billy player would say something racist to the Shiv not say they're racist.
buff kelvin ice beam
>Paige throws a book at me>Gachi men appear from the book rush me down and rape meWhat the fuck
another game lost at draft
>>574082713no haze and the calico was on the losing team, 0 and 5
>losing game>shiv disconnects but doesnt abandon>hoping his internet went out and he joins back>auto abandons>shiv eventually joins back after abandon to see how hard we're losing and leaves immediately after
>>574085597>>574085597
>>574060070the urn after the latest update
If you are oracle, you will never be phantomIf you are phantom, YWNBAIf you are ascendant, YWNBEIf you are eternus, YWNBE6If you are e6, YWNBNS (you will never be a nigshifter)If you are a nigshifter, you will never be championIf you are champion, you won't be in the future when there's pros who actually know how to playIf you're posting from the future with pros who know how to play, you won't be on top foreverAt least one of these are completely correct in any given argument by default. Therefore, no matter what your retarded opinion is, I don't care and I'm right.I trust my own intuition more than any single nigger who plays this game.
>>574000895>every couple hundred gamesyou just couldn't help yourself huh?no it doesn't happen every 5 matches. but you're also completely delusional if you believe there is a soft or hard thrower every three digit game tops. maybe you should check what your team is doing more often, since you're so invested in your game surely you can afford the macro... right anon...?
>>574081918calico's gun sucks ass dude
>>574070603we dont even get matched with you for some reason valve have you quarantined in your own server but have refused to do the same in dota after 15 years of pleading for the same
