Summer Splash Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=688635449342696590>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>573772485
Buff graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
Tankbuster is lowkey a hollow point counter
Remove Graves from the game entirely.
>>573896274>(shit item) counters (shit item 2)
>>573896173i can see her puss puss JAAAANNNYYYY!!!!!!!
>>573896378Honestly, I never noticed. I assumed it was SFW. It's over for me.
>wtf didn't we just have this op pic>check archive>3.5 weeks agoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>573896173built for being gangraped by xiggers
Regarding the Tankbuster schizo: what do you think about Opening Rounds?
this is a funny ability
>>573896807only good on heroes who need velocity, the other stats are not worth it
>>573896807It’s similar but not bad, 7 spirit power is a lot for the price and you can play around your hp better than an enemys
>>573896807Used to be very strong after they first buffed it, then they nerfed it over and over and now it's a decent 1600 item, probably best when used as the 1st half of a gun 4.8k spike for a spirit build (doorman, kelvin, ult warden, maybe talon)for pure gun builds there are much much better weapon damage & fire rate items
Item frequency, rem edition Most recent game from top 10 rem on eu and na respectively. Personally I think echo shard as the most popular is probably warranted but bad design. His heal is way overtuned rn
>>573897229w-where's tankbuster...?
r8 my roster
>>573897203Seeker-kun...
>>573897338you don't like winning but you do like making everyone mad
>>573897289There was more gun rem(1) than tankbuster (0)
does tankbuster at least proc multiple times (on different heroes) if I hit several people with an aoe?
>>573896173ivy NEEDS my love custard inside her, if you know what i mean by that. I hope you know what i mean, i don't really want to explain, it's kinda making me shy now actually. Nevermind.
>>573897338>3 no skill heroes and then the highest skill hero in the gamewtf?
>>573897706Yes it does
>>573896870>cheats
>>573897454bingo
>>573896870WARNINGWARNINGEXCESSIVE ANIME CONSUMPTION DETECTEDTROON-OUT IMMINENT____kys______
>>573896870bro I think you got some deadlock in your anime furry tits game, you should mod that out
i hate doorman PLAYERS with passion. they're always one-trick niggers who try to camp other shitters and ult + cart them into the walker. this never works more than once per player, and they end up contribiting nothing to objectives.and they're always the first to start beefs in all chat like the niggers they areeven "good" doormen are shit because they never communicate or keep their doors open for allies.
>>573896173>tranny op again
old deadlock was betterold map was betterold shields were betterold inventory was betterif you didn't play deadlock in 2024, you are not a real nigga! fact!!!
>>573896870goonerslop
>>573898475how is a hot gargoyle wife tranny? fuck off
>>573899651>wife>male torsoYWNBAW
>>573899843>ivy>male torsoDo you live in some third world country where the dietary deficiencies cause the "men" to never develop properly?
>tranny femboy groomer goes in full denial mode againClassic mental illness
>>573897775it's ok anon I know what you mean, you want to piss in her mouth
>people who've never played the game come here to shitpost about IvyMy wife is perfect even if her sculptors forgot to give her tits.
>>573900297umm if theres no tits its a male chest ok tits are the only thing that matters my estrogen breasts make by torso female ok
Do you think Seven enjoys being scary or he misses having a normal body?
>>573901139he has dialog with MIC qweeen about itYes >McGinnis: You ever take that thing off?>Seven: It's impossible.>McGinnis: For someone who likes to talk about having no limits, you sure seem quick to give up the ghost on that one.>Seven: Hmm.>McGinnis: When this is over, come find me.so hed probably prefer to be human again but didnt mind it enough to pursue fixing his body
>>573901524Mcginnis is actually a good character
How do these pro silver builds manage with only 2 stamina? It feels impossible to chase anyone
>>573901903They don't, the hero is dogshit.
>>573901761shes a prick but a realistic one, if you talked to the average MIC engineer youd get alot of the same responses to querys asked to McGand her patron dialog does imply shes trying to break off from fairfax and stop being involved in TIDthough I think her melee combat dialog implies shes killed people with her hands which uhhhh
>>573896173Now post her pregnant
Behold, a woman!- random tranny on 4chan
>>573900297Do you think Mr Arroyo took to the chisel at some point to add some "modifications" to their sexy gargoyle stay-in
- boot up the game- swap hero to Paige- walk forward against a wall (hold W)- angle camera slightly downwards- enjoy
Flopping Celeste horsecock.
>>573902632>enjoyDo you enjoy blacked out upskirt or silhouette of her shorts?
PARRIES = CHEATS
>>573902794you're angling the camera up
>>573902794>Do you enjoy blackedit's a Paige player
Buff Mina, Bebop, Graves and Rem already.
>>573902975nono it'd be knotted out upskirt if that was the case
Silver.
>gun yamato>gun calico>gun holliday>gun doorman>spirit apolloreported
>>573903596>3 p.m. beer>monster energy3 p.m. is getting into the territory of being acceptable anyway
>>573903596Still the most useless hero in the game
>>573903596i can see her pussy
>>573903596>SilverFeels so fucking bad right now. Constant damage nerfs, raising the threshhold to trigger her ult and increasing it's cooldown means you never get wolf form when you need it anymore.I will continue playing her as to lower her winrate.
There are Silver (Hitler) downplayers in my thread and I don't like it. They didn't nerf S++++lver enough.
>>573905270Play a game of Silver right now and post results
>>573904826lucky
>graves still throw pick tierWhat the fuck are they doing
>>573905452You can't make a character that literally plays the game for you good, the devs are fucking retarded and made her though, so she needs to stay bad.
Nerf No & Skill too then
melee haze is better than melee abrams by a lot
>>573905865People in these threads just say random whit, why? Do you want (You)s that bad? Here are some, so you won't post anymore:>>573905865>>573905865>>573905865>>573905865
>Bullet Hit Mismatch: client hit entity#0/worldentdoes anyone else get this when shooting abram in hideout as doorman
>>573906529*random shit
>>573906529ESL faggot
>>573905638Mokrill is the highest skill ceiling character in the game, watch some mokrill eternus gameplay
>>573905865shut the fuck up retard, i dont want them to nerf it until i reach eternus 6 with it
>>573897229do you have one for seven?
Does anyone have the mod of the Paige model with the "dogs only" tattoo
>>573907625consider suicide
>>573907625it's on hold
>>573907843That saddens me greatly brother
odds of valve making a female bruiser character like abrams/billy? Silver in wolf form is a m1gger so it doesn't count
>>573908935The monkey paw curls and you get a big, buff, body builder of a negress from darkest africa
>Colossus>Spirit Resistance>Bullet Resistance>UnstoppableFinally, the game is playable.
>>573909431Is she a futa?
What is the counterplay to refresher split push graves?
>>573897706YesIt also counts as spirit damage for triggering Spirit Burn and makes anything proc it
>>573910163forbidden tech do not open unless you are sure you're ready shadow weave so you can get in and punch the tombs
>>573910163Just farm the free minions and ghouls?
>>573910163Monster rounds Shoot the ghouls as she feeds you thousands of souls
>>573910163Kill the ghouls? They're dogshit.
>my character gets nerfed >rank stops going up and starts slipping >have to find a new character >It gets nerfedIt's so tiresome Just make the game balanced and leave it
>>573910678>Just make the game balancedWtf, why didn't any other moba dev think of this?!
What elo does split pushing paradox stop working?
kill all spiritfags
>>573910949If I play healer ivy do you count that as being a spiritfagI buy some spirit items like echo shard
at what elo do people stop insta parrying after getting hooked, you cant parry uppercut
>>573911140they're parrying the weaved melee dumbfuck
>>573911140Their autoparry scripts is bad
I deliberately don't parry the first hook, then do parry the second one
Why isnt yamatos grapple a skillshot ?
>>573911452the hero is so bad anyway ok havent you seen the tier lists
>>573911452Because she'd be unplayably bad without a free gap closer
>>573910816because if they left the meta how it is people would quickly realize how shallow and boring mobas are
>>573911452It used to be and it was awful to use
>>573908119it's hard
It's been a few weeks, hasn't it? Ranked rework today, right?????
>>573911848What part about it is hard? I'm pretty adept at 3D modeling so I could help
>>573911452No bro she needs an auto targeting teleport that gives her 40 spirit power and has 3 charges + refresh from her ult that starts its cooldown when it's used so it can be chained endlessly ok
>>573911452why the fuck do they allow it to go through walls first of all
>>573912351me too!!!!!can we add a spades tatoo?
>>573912351exporting the model out of blender and into a vpk that the game can use
>>573912740this but a "kids only" tattoo
Mina with a "humans only" crotch tattoo
this is what the lack of an update does to a general
>>573913389it was supposed to be late june....
infernus with a "bucked" tattoo
>>573913389more like the game being shit
silver won
>>573911752>how shallow and boring the item system isftfy
>>573913706won what being the worst hero in the game award?
>>573913774fun builds feel like absolute ass to play in higher ranks, so they're never optimal, which means you're at an inherent disadvantage against whichever enemy team that decided to fully metaslave it for that dayWHICH MEANS that you're expected to follow an 'optimal item' route which is usually the same old same old shit unless a buff or nerf to one of those items or your character says otherwise
the worst part is even with Silver as nerfed as she is people are still buck brocken over her>Wraith in a team fight>Survives with 1/4th HP and running back to her base>I boost in from our base, bola her and kill her>"There is no way Silver is a real character"like nigga any fucking character in the game could've killed you under those circumstances
Infernus looked more fun than he actually is. He feels a lot like Mirage where you don't come online until later when you finally buy that one item that lets you have fun. The difference is Infernus doesn't have the funny voice lines to carry you through the game while you farm.
i'm seeing far more parry bots and aimbots in my matchesi do not want to play Deadlock
>>573907606They are time sensitive so I don’t just have a bunch in wait however they are pretty quick to make, here’s 7
>>573914190The idea of some dude on fire, running around while igniting everything in his path while yelling snarky marvel chungus voicelines sounds funnier on paper than it does in practicehttps://files.catbox.moe/z1nerh.mp4
>>573913706won my heart
>"this build is BROKEN">check vid>they get fed in lane>after like 8 minutes there is not a single moment where they don't have at minimum a 7k lead on someone>"bro this hero is insaneeeeee"this is how the game gets balanced btw from the opinions of these fucking retards
>>573914485first time on youtube?
>>573914162m1ggers fear the anti m1gger hero and will insist that it needs nerfs instead of getting good and realizing that some heroes counter other heroes
I love humbling egotards with sniper paradox.Whats that?You wanna be a w+m1 graves?How about half your health in 1 one shot instead you inbred bitch
>>573914674can you share the build? I wanna try carbinedox
>>573914739phoneposting at the moment because im enjoying myself some diner breakfast
>>573914485Is there any actual evidence for jewtubers to be behind all the shitty balancing in deadlock or is it just "mah gut feeling and vibes tells me so" and nothing else
>>573914893As with all things the vast majority is vibes based retards with a small cabal of legitimately evil gnostic geniuses socially engineering them
>>573914485the most embarassing shit is when they nerf shit mid night shift>YOSHI PATCHI THIS MAN NOW
>>573915090>with a small cabal of legitimately evil gnostic geniuses socially engineering them...from a discord server?assuming this also isn't a "vibes"-based speculation, I bet one of those assholes is obsessed with silver and is the reason why this gen is so obsessed witth downplaying or upplaying her to begin with
>>573914842Why are you on 4chan while eating out loser
>>573915456he has the money to phonepost from a diner while you're still a NEET, rising and grinding an alpha chungus game and pushing 30, are you sure YOU aren't the loser here?
>>573915549Dont talk in third person faggot
>>573915612>assuming I'm the phoneposter in questionMORON. This is why you're a semi-homeless NEET
>>573914190did you not believe people when they called infernus and mirage and most boring characters in the game?why do you think people hate them? boring as fuck to play, but really OPso unless they are nerfed to shit the game sucks
>>573914893there have been several times during night shift (an unofficial eceleb event) where things get complained about and within hours its patched out. often before the actual event is even OVER. its ridiculous, to deny there is an influencer bias is denying reality
>play match>teammate starts bitching 6 minutes inI'm just going to leave lol enjoy the loss I'm not playing another 20+ minutes with you
>>573915886>there have been several times during night shift (an unofficial eceleb event) where things get complained about and within hours its patched out.such as...? also patching out genuine bugs does not count, it genuinely has to be inherently biased balancing changes based on what happened in night shiftI wanna say 'abusable mechanics' don't count either, but I feel like that's a little too vague; I'm thinking of the 'cheese strat' incident with melee creeps and floormen btw
>>573916253to simplify things basically instead of>oh this abusable ass loophole bug shit needed to be changed asapwhat would count would be>URHHHH MAH HECKIN SILVER IS TOO HECKIN STRONG PLS CHANGE HER IMMEDIATELY YOSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIduring or after a nightshift
>>573914893Haze got her recent dagger buff because a streamer was complaining about her and suggested fixation stacks on dagger
>>573916594>a streamerwhat was their name?
>>573916814Zerggy
>>573910163Be a character with easy mode farm like Seven.
>>573916253>>573916414who made you the arbiter of acceptable feedback? why is it ok for the devs to literally hop online and fix some retarded bug that only a 6 stack co-ordinated pro team can pull off for an extra 20 souls in lane (literally the first and only time its ever been done btw) but ignore the abysmal state of balance for months? that shit did not need fixing asap EXCEPT for the sake of nightshift but the devs fixed that before the stream even ended.
>poshpopy makes video about mirage>gets nerfed>makes video about billy >gets nerfedStreamers are fucking parasites who cry anytime their chosen playstyle is not the meta This subhuman was also part of the streamer cabal that killed dark and darker
>>573916253>such as...?using urn as a banner to win teamfights instead depositing it
things will get worse before they get betteri shudder to think what 1.0 will look like
>>573917321Don't blame streamers for fishing for views, blame IceFag for listening to them.
why did Silvers stop buying stamina mastery and express?
>>573917321>killed dark and darkerIronmace did that all on their own, streamer faggots just expedited the processgood riddance honestly
>>573917441>i shudder to think what 1.0 will look likeThankfully the game is never coming out, Valve won't handle another Artifact.
>>573917672This tbdesu
>>573917672probably the worst balanced game ever the core game itself was good but they just can't help but makes the worst sludge gameplay possible game would literally be saved if they just removed sorcerer/ranger/druid/rogue and focused on the actual fun melee gameplay
>>573917559I feel like stamina mastery is a waste on a lot of characters especially in spirit meta, express is not as good as 1 got nerfed and she scales more with spirit now I guess
>>573917206it's not about arbiting anything, but verifying the 'the devs are inherently biased towards buffing and nerfing these characters based on what the jewtubers say' claimslet's not get deflect here. it's not ok for the devs to be doing what they're doing in the first place, but I'm investigating actual instances of what people are talking about in nightshift to know if it's bullshit or not. I refuse to go off of vibes alone
>>573917321While they obviously listen to competitive player and streamer opinions Mirage is proof they don't follow them that closely, Mirage has been the most complained about hero since the March patch but they've never substantially nerfed him.
>>573918435He's dumpster tier rn
>>573918094but none of the builds I see build spirit other than hex + duration
matchmaking down for anyone else?
>>573916972That guy always seemed like a gigantic faggot, got a clip of it?>>573916594Honestly a retarded change, Fixation is a boring and obnoxious passive like all the others and should be removed and made into an actual ability.
>>573918858Steam is acting up atm
>>573918901all of the m1 steroids need to be removed and reworked into active abilities
>>573917949>>573917672How did they kill dark and darker? Was being a ranged faggot simply flat out better?
>>573918901>got a clip of itNo, if you want to verify it you'd have to check his vods from before the patch, he was trying to play Haze as an M1 carry again and was getting raped.
>>573919151I agree, it makes the easiest type of character in the game even easier to play since you get as much value out of just shooting someone as another player does with actually having to use their ability, on top of the fact that every faggy M1 character with a passive also has one of the best guns in the game anyways with super high bullet velocity, or a big magazine size, or perfect accuracy, or in the case of characters like Wraith and Haze, all three.It's why Venator is merely balanced, he doesn't have a free spirit damage passive like all these other characters do on their guns, and he doesn't have a button he can press to just get out of the aoe slop fields for free like all the others can (haze's invis being a purge counts)Of course making m1 characters have to actually use their abilities is antithetical to their design, obviously.
>>573918858>>573919104jesus crhist oh my god... THEY HIT GAYBENS YACHT TURN THE TV ON!
I can't believe they still haven't updated Silver's animationsDoorman's got updated after like 2 weeks
>>573919152the game is totally dominated by ranged damageplaying a frontliner is being the designated pincushion That;s when you're not getting shit on by overtuned shit like druid and rogue coming out of nowhere and instagibbing you they added this dogshit sorcerer class to the game which is even more annoying than ranger or wizard with infinite ammo and the ability to teleport
Am I the only one in thinking next content update will make or break deadlock?Most common complaint among forumfags for the last half a yer was MM and then you add shitty balance introduced during that time, and so far we haven't seen any improvements in those areas.Are they going to just FIX EVERYTHING? I somehow doubt that.
>>573919557what's wrong with her animations? they look fine>uhm she shares animations with sevenso
>>573919851No they don't have to fix anything, new content will keep everyone happy for a few months before we go back to complaining about matchmaking and balance.
the fucks going on
>>573919974She could use better melee animations and another zipline animation.
>>573919851whats actually wrong with the balance?it feels balanced to met. ivy main in ritualist
GUUUUUUUUUUUYS
>>573920119AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>573920119Someone got a 25 kill streak and nuked Gaben's yachtIt's over
>>573919974Her wolf animations look like shit
>>573919851game feels fun to me t. archon 4 infernus gamer
>>573920174>>573920175this means the matchmaking update is coming btw
Uncle Dane is DDOSing the whole store.
>>573920008So this game is essentially turning into an overglorified Dead By Daylightwooooooooow
huh
gabe is spanking yoshi as we speak
What does this mean?
Yoshi's earned another vacation for this
they are all on the GABE PARTY which is taking place in international waters
just played a 40 minute game and had the servers disconnect right before it ended and now I'm not seeing it on my played games. amazing.
>>573920323the games will still suck after the update, cuz matchmaking's problem is too few players so you get alchemists in archon lobbies and shit
match making update tonight?
TF2 UPDATE SOON??!
>>573920776Next week thursday
being a meta chaser is so hard
i was thinking they banned me for playing too well
>>573906649I would not be remotely surprised if they somehow fucked up when they replaced seven in hideout with abrams.
EVERYONE WILL GET HIT TODAY
>>573911137meeeh she's a hybrid. kelvin/paige are closer to being 'healers'. ivy just heals incidentally. I usually go hex -> healing nova -> heroic aura -> web -> arctic blast. you'll get some pretty alright healing. but nowhere near as much as a kelvin focused on healslutting.
>>573920119Glad its not just me.
my steam library disappeared, its over
Rockstar hired a pajeet DDOSfarm to hit steam so there's more direct sales.
this reminds me of how when my power went out yesterday while I was in a deadlock match. began complaining about it like "ugh the powerlines are so fucking garbage, why can't the technicians just fix them properly?"and then I realized the irony in that and had a good chuckle about it to myself for a minute or so
Anyone got a good Billy build ID?His daily builds suck absolute aids...
>>573921906he's a fucking tankyou max 1 and 3 and build resists
>>573902794I'm not playing the game for sexual satisfaction.
>>573921972All the daily builds I've tried just max his 2 for some reason.
>>5739219722 max real strong though
ITS OVER ITS SO FUCKING OVER
>>573914162i've had a mo n krill say "new player ult" because i survived being grabbed by him once due to it
>>573903596>holding a drink like thatWhite man has been here.
>>573918185considering we know the same people that play in nightshift are in the super duper sekrit build and that we have a couple instances of devs actively just taking shit they hear on random streams and implementing them into the game (like lash's parry animation) i don't think it's a stretch to say they're balancing around nightshift retardsthat being said i don't watch that garbage so i can't prove any proof. but i KNOW it. no other reason to nerf silver for 6 months straight when she's always been dogshit
Too many people stopped playing so they cancelled the game
>>573922545>super duper sekrit buildeveryone got kicked out alreadythey're testing shit themselves
>>573921906So no Build ID?
>>573922937>valve>testing shit themselvesthis ain't 2004 grampshell even back then they also had retarded testers as well, or family members
>>573922917fakeif this were true yoshit would be getting hanged on national television as we type this
I remembered listening to the HL2 dev commentary and thinking that Valve somehow just finds the most retarded playtesters out there. I wonder if they still do that for Deadlock
>>573919851people have been complaining about matchmaking and balance for the entire two years since the game "leaked". valve's strategy is clearly to just ignore it entirely and drop a few new heroes when interest has all but dried up. expect that ad infinitum
>>573923021devs testing shit themselves is understandable, but it can also lead to them developing the game in a vacuum, which causes a lot of obvious problems, like knowing solutions to immediate problems a first-time player wouldn't instantly be aware ofso naturally they rely on rando testers for feedback, since that's the best way to see how a fresh player actually reacts to the game.
>>573923238They literally dragged a hobo into Valve HQ to scan his face for Eli Vance's model. They literally Cave Johnson that shit when it comes to finding other people to help them out.
those last 6 heroes were nearly all complete dogshit cancer I'm almost excited to see how fucking ass whatever they release next will be. maybe they'll implement the camera slow raven had that'll be real fun to play with
>>573923679Can you come up with something better than those six heroes?
>>573923679Ven and Rem were okay.
i think they should add another john deadlock/ryu type of charactersome seven/wraith/infernus copy
>>573923238well, I got an invite to deadlock, so...
>>573923679but i like apollo
>>573923857>no mention of wardenHe is this game's quintessential John 'Doelock' Deadlock. The most nothing character in the game. Atleast Seven and Infernus having something going for them. Wraith doesn't count because she's a minority character
>>573923679Just you wait until all the silvertards from the cabal wake up so they can MK ultra the thread into raping you
>>573923679Silver is the anti cancer hero, only cancer enjoyers hate her.
>>573924013i was also thinking about mentioning abrams but i think the game has a hybrid m1gger soul at its core
I can't believe the Baroness is going to to be housing Ixian "refugees"
>add dodging to game>add 3d movement mechanics>add a crosshair so you have to aim and be accuratealso>dodge can't actually dodge anything, even if you're outside the AoE you still get hit>movement doesn't matter because there's 1000 direct target unmissable CCs>crosshair doesn't matter because shooting isn't rewarded, and everything else is a giant aoeWhat did they mean by this?
>>573924182>>dodge can't actually dodge anything, even if you're outside the AoE you still get hitsomehow this is the worst with victor's ulti go outside of the zone and it still stuns me for no reasonor maybe mystic/greater expansion doesn't telegraph his new ult range with the item?
>>573923757yeah. nothing. if you can only come up with dogshit ideas just don't add anything lol is that asking too much
>>573923679I want a pied piper inspired hero whose ult takes control of an enemy hero for a short timeImagine just how much seethe he's going to generate
Are those good stats on Pocket?
>>573923457problem is that they're not random, they're the people playing this game as a job (streamers) and usually the ones within the incestous """"""""esports""""""""" scene this game haswhich basically leads to the same problem you've mentioned.
>>573924496No you should have at least 10 denies per game
>>573924404>ult enemy kelvin/mcginnis>accidentally be more helpful to their team with dome/walls more than the actual kelvin/mcginnis player
Games are decided by whoever has the most m1ggers on the team
>>573924182Item rework will save gun, trust.
>>573924404>he doesn't knowringmaster was supposed to be that but nuvalve doesn't believe in allowing crazy shit that's enfuriating to play against but super fun to play yourself no more like techies. they also tried giving shiv an ult like that iirc and well, you can see yourself they didn't much care for it.so now all you're gonna get is aoe movement slop that's still genuinely awful to play against sowwwyyyy uwu
>>573924496>22% winrate (rounded up)literal elo terrorist
>>573924925>doesn't believe in allowing crazy shit that's enfuriating to play against but super fun to play yourselfDoorman, however?
>>573924925you say this but Doorman exists and he keeps getting buffed every patch
borgor
>>573925015>>573925056his unique mechanic is literally lifted from rivals. and before you mention portal i'd agree if not because valve seems to be taking direct inspiration from it for new heroes as you can see by sinclair copying loki instead of rubickthe entire rest of his kit is aoe stun slop with zero flavour beyond the visuals. even funny unique shit like drifting doorman was nerfed into the ground for some fucking reason. if his kit was designed back in dota's day you would see him being able to upkeep the doors 24/7 and they would actually base his entire kit around that, now however? you can't even get the fucking urn through them even though viscous can genuinely carry it faster than any door can by clicking 2 buttons.
>>573924640reminder that valve's playtests used to be private for a good reasonso yeah this game is very susceptible to the vaccum playtesting problem, and the echo chamber feedback problem that their previous games weren't affected by, or at least while they were in development
With how camps work, shouldn't I just leave a small minion behind when stealing jungle to cuck the enemy team?
>>573925882You can, it's not a bad ideaBut if the camp doesn't respawn, you won't be able to steal it again and again and again
>3 games in a row getting stomped>teamates have the attention span of lemmings>have to threaten them to get them to come help defend walker instead of fucking around like niggers in jungle>still lose because they're just really fucking garbage teamatesThis filthy game is doing everything in it's power to get me to uninstall it
bebop niggers randomly drop bombs in their own jungle clearing half the camp
>>573923679Next character?It's just a copy and paste of Karthus from League of Legends.>you vill bvy ze spellbreker.
>>573925325>sinclair copying loki instead of rubickDidn't Sinclair come out before rivals?
Vindicta is a nigger character made for nigger faggotsI wish I could consistently play supports when Vindicta or other flying fuck is picked to absolutely rape them with stuns and slows
How about a character that puts down a zone where enemies can't dashThen finally all the movement complainers will stop seething.
>>573926595alright
>>573926527Skill issue, you got outplayed.
>>573926527This but Graves/Haze/Mirage/McGinnis/Wraith/Yamato
>>573926595Congrats, the character lasts a week, most of the top 100 streamers in all regions get deranked or quit playing, and then it gets hotfixed to only stop movement abilities and not stamina usage.
>>573926995just build unstoppable bro
>>573927086people bitched and moan up and down about bola on silver release, and many of the top players continue to bitch and moan about it, because they are heavily carried by their movement. This is just silver bola, but AOE. It would rape these types.
>>573927216but its an ult with a long cd so its fine
>>573925325>did they take inspiration from this ancient also valve game? No they must have taken inspiration from the Chinese company that took inspiration from the ancient valve gameretard
>>573926128link to your statlocker? so i can take a look at your teammates of course
>>573926515no, he was added after. the game released in december 2024 but loki was already in the beta back in july of that same year, and sinclair wasn't added until later january 2025.considering how he looks and that he's recycled shit: the hero i wouldn't be surprised if hotpoo threw him together in like a week or two
>>573926595As long as it’s a 150m radius
>>573926595I remember a long long time ago when people complained about abundance of dashes that heroes started having in League of Legends the devs added Poppy and as you may have noticed it didn't do shit
>>573927216>because they are heavily carried by their movement.theyre not though? i know its a bad example as metro isnt a top 100 player but his movement is nonexistent. also if movement is supposedly something that carries you to e6 why arent you learning it
>>573927259>there are portals in the game?? WOWIEEE IT'S JUST LIKE IN MY VALVE GAME!!!!!doctor strange making portals was a thing literal decades before portal the game retard, not only that rivals was the first to add those kinds of portals to multiplayer hero shooter sloppa.i'll repeat it because you evidently can't read: i wouldn't believe they took the idea from rivals if not because they've already done so in the past to a bigger extent. doorman portals look like the ones in portal but gameplay wise they're WAY more like strange's due to the fucking cooldown they have.
>>573926128>had a pocket last night call midboss when all 6 were alive>we rightfully ignored him>he goes there alone, dies to haze>starts crying>while he is dead we get a pick and wipe them>we then go midboss>he starts whining in all chat that we didn't do midboss when he wanted to, but instead waiting until he was deadSome people just aren't human>>573927503Poppy shits on like half the dash characters in the game, man.
>>573927503Flash is actually one of the main reasons I quit league in s2. Idk what it’s like now but literally everyone ran it on everyone and every fight was flash to counter the other guys flashIt was very retarded. The other 2 things were removing gps deny and making all the creeps ghost through obstacles
>>573927628bro? Your Splitgate?
>>573927628Are you really exiting vidya and going back to comic books? Why not go back to the Ancient Greeks? They talked about portalsretard
I don't know why you guys don't just go play regular MOBAs if you're going to seethe endlessly that there's shooting and movement in the game where the entire gimmick is it's a movement heavy shooter mixed with a MOBA. It's so weird how people on this site whine nonstop that games aren't creative anymore and everything's just a remake then the nanosecond a game is unique at all and has things for them to learn there's also nonstop bitching about it and demands that it be changed until it's just like the shit they're comfortable with. Do you faggots even like video games or do you just like crying about them?
>>573927645>Poppy shits on like half the dash characters in the game, man.Oh does that mean they stopped making every character have built-in blinks and people stopped picking high mobility heroes? Sweet, I can finally come back to the game.
which item is thisHard mode: No tankbuster
>>573927939i'm sorry retardkun i wasn't aware dr strange was a prominent figure on greek mythology could you please point me towards a few texts about him? i'd be willing to read them if you like.
>>573927628Does Doctor strange have a luggage cart?
>>573928001don'tthe game sucksim just saying poppy and a few other anti mobility creep characters are still literally thanos pick vs certain comps
>>573928060boundless spirit
>>573927884i wasn't aware of it desu fair enough rivals is the second game to add them. the point is that doorman's portals aren't maximized to the craziness you'd expect from them, i mean we've had gunman, bellman, urnman, ultman, everything BUT an actual DOORman build
>>573928191yeah he also has ccslop on his kit, it's his ult
>People look at doorman and think it's a doctor strange ripoff instead of PortalI forget that this place is full of literal children, explains why the resident schizos are so cosmically unfunny.
the reason why there's so many oraclelets and comparatively few phantoms is because oracle is where ascendants go to smurf.likewise for the amount of ascendants vs eternus, eternus players don't wanna lose rank so they hop on their asc smurfs to play the game.to get out of those brackets you need to outperform at least one rank bracket above. when I queue with friends on my own smurf, open up recent players, and see that 60% of the lobby excluding myself has <50 hours played, and their playstyle is comparable to my own, yeah I can see why they're hardstuck oracle/asci don't understand why valve doesn't crack down on this like they did in dota
surprised the game doesnt have facial animations.maybe eventuallyvalve have always been good at facial animations
>>573928406I mean what do you really want that wouldn't just be completely retardproof unbeatable macro?
>>573928624* pees in your mouth *do you like it? :)
>>573928582missing the forest for the treessinclair came with a batch of heroes that were made by a new dev that couldn't even be arsed to play dota and instead based the kits of the new heroes he added from league and rivals. it isn't a stretch of the imagination to think that the other devs took direct inspiration from how rivals did portals as opposed to portal because it's also a hero shooter slop game, and a more CURRENTLY popular one at that.there's no hard evidence or anything of the sort. it's only how much you believe in valve's unique brand of incompetence. again for the main point see: >>573928406>>573928683i want the doors to be good before anything in his kit is desu, I wouldn't be able to balance them properly but I'm also not the one being paid a 6 digit salary to figure this shit out. I can come up with a couple ideas to make them more portal-like if you want but don't expect anything good because again, it's not my job.i was a techies main so seeing valve constantly shaft the uniqueness out of their kits in favour of more "balanced" shit (often just as broken) pisses me off.
>>573926595Lots of things slow and reduce dash distance or disable movement abilities like rem ult
>>573927528that's mostly wraith being complete bullshit though
>>573928371Honestly is boundless the most overrated item in the game? Every time I buy it I lose
I'm tired of how many fucking counter items they are putting into the gameThe game is boiling down to making sure your opponent can't fight back while you M1 them down, it's so gay. Dispel basically becoming mandatory on every hero is so boring
>>573929014It’s obvious they don’t want them to be portal like, all they would have to do is allow horizontal placement
>>573929517welcome to icefrog's ideal balancing. shit only gets worse from herewhat, you thought the store was there to allow unique hero builds and playstyles? ahahahahahahahhahahaha
what a hook
>>573929639remove the bells and replace them with a new ability: TRAP DOORShorizontal doors that do damage to enemies for each time the fall through themdogshit idea perhaps but i can bet you it'd be funnier and more unique than yet another aoeslop nade
>>573929443he's a warden main
>>573929517I've seen enough.Rework the urn again.
>>573929798potato potato
>>573929741
guess the outage was a total nothing like always
>>573929741>>573929927Sv_pure incoming?
>>573929741>cheats
am i missing something or why does pocket get calico's ultimate as an ability?
>>573930453Now post the bikini
>>573929517Dispel became a mandatory item because every single ability is overbloated with 30 different cancers that make the game unplayable, blame the reworks that caused all of this.
>enemy graves got stamina mastery and veil walker with refresher so they could place a grave then instantly movement tech across the map to place another graveWhat level of split push autism is this?
>>573930453>abs>ex fat person legshahahah wtf
>>573930491>Errrrmmm he cant move so its actually way worse, ignore his suitcase jacket combo escape
>>573927274>PLEASE let me stalk you
>>573929927>beans
>>573929741Nice Sweet Baby Inc.-approved """swimsuit""", lol
>>573930538>ex fat person legswhat does that mean?
>>573930532Low 7 or 6, real splitters know that characters without movement abilities will always be suboptimal because they have to spend money on movement items
>>573930940so you would say it's a 6, 7? xD
can we get a streamer to complain about how jank abrams charge is already? its been two years and the devs don't listen to my bug reports. he can literally not drag you, hit a wall by himself and you still get stunned. idk how this has survived for so long what am I supposed to report in the "bug reports" section of the forums is it just like a joke section they purposefully ignore for the laughs or what am I doing here
>>573930905she's carrying a sun umbrella do you really expect her to be wearing a two piece
>>573931409a translucent sarong would have been good though
>>573931382That’s lag not a bug and it’s intentional. There is always lag either for the Abram’s player himself or the person playing against him, valve has decided that it’s less cringe for the person playing against Abram’s to feel the lag so it looks crisp from his perspective
unlucky
>>573930907Hes just a coping fatty
>>573930905>"Women are not allowed to dress modestly"
>>573931996>"Yes, I am gay. What about it?"Then again, they're making a game for people like you, so I guess joke's on me.
ook ook give leak
>Graves getting groomed by a lich>Graves nearly gets groomed by HazeDamn, this bitch is getting groomed by everyone, isnt she?
>>573932241not me, unfortunately...
>>573932158Hoodwink
>>573932138>If you don't like modest clothing then you must be gayHows your prefrontal cortex and striatum?
>>573932396Inshallah, my brother.
If i cant goon to a game its bad
>>573932570>"If you dont like one thing then you must like x"Mental gymnastics.
>>573930830huh? you have bad teammates and youre better than them. nothing to hide
>>573932717I'm really sorry you were raised in UK, but... well. Your problem, lmao.
>>573932905I'm not even him desu I just know from experience looking at d2g that making yourself known to a thread just invites negative attention and cherry picking.
>>573933072Average latinx person
>>573896173Furry “fandom” goes on >>>/trash/
>>573930907I use to be fat but not anymore my legs look like this they're really unappealing to look at. the modder could add some muscle definition to his legs and it would improve the skin tenfold.
>>573933215>furry>is a rockretard-kun...
>faggot never uses his mic>just randomly goes in on people>"TEAM???" in text chat why do these retards not just use mic like holy fuck it's 2026
Cute mouthbreathing retard.
>>573933706>breathing>is a stone
>>573931634no, its a bug. if you have indomitable, it stops the charge but doesn't stop the stun. if you are immobilized you won't get dragged but you WILL get stunned. has absolutely nothing to do with lag.
>>573923679Venator was great, Rem is okay, the other 4 are all mistakes that resulted in disgusting amounts of powercreep.
>>573933668seeker-kun...If you can't figure out the game-plan by glancing at the minimap you belong in shitlo
>>573928624>eternus players don't wanna lose rank so they hop on their asc smurfs to play the game.I swear every time I want to watch a eternus streamer to maybe learn some new things it is just them smurfing and niggerstomping on their ascendent/phantom account
>>573921972I keep getting as many deaths as I do kills with billyhe just seems very squishy to me
>>573934015Living stone.
>>573932910>More mental gymnastics
>>573933706It's crazy that after all this time the only character of the OG cast that has a model on par with the new ones is Abrams. Ivy got a remodel but it's still very weird in some places + nonsensical weapon animation + weapon doesn't point where you're aiming. Infernus is somewhat there maybe too but everyone else needs a complete remodel or finishing touches.
>wearing a sarong is the equivalent of sharia lawcan't argue with faggots
>>573934672>squishy...?
>>573934576they will literally do it completely isolated on the other side of the map deep in the enemy jungle without saying a single word.
Are these good stats?
>>573936112terrorist
>>573933706Men will see this and all they'll say is ''mating press''
They are adding __Murky__ to Deadlock.
I have over 500 games played and I'm still fucking Seeker.I just reached Alchemist 1. Just to lose next match and go back to Seeker 5. Two fucking ranks with 1 match. I play for 50 minutes just for thisFuck this game.
>>573937340embarrassing information no one asked for
>>573896173What is it about this stupid game that attracts foids?I played three matches today and all three of them had foids using their mic.Of course, I started throwing, because I want to give them the most miserable experience possible, hoping they will never touch this game ever again.But I wanna play a real Deadlock match before I go to bed and the next one better not have a foid in it. Don't force me to throw it as well!
>>573937290if Rem is their attempt at Abathur I don't want Murky
>>573937081
>>573937631Imagine being in a rank where there are foids. Embarrassing. I wouldn't admit that myself.
>>573937290closest we have to murky is victor
I main phantom assassin who should I play?
>>573938042Haze
>>573937650Rem is more like the unholy love-child of Yuumi from LOL and Abathur.
>play mcfatty>enemy team has celesteEvery single time. I'm sick and tired of this bullshit.
Why did they make infernus look like a rapist
>>573937823Eskay is Eternus everbeitchance.
>>573938669>auto-aim turrets into high mobility herois this not a good thing
>>573938669>he doesn't know that the game has always had draft but it's only for the enemy team
>>573935559sure, he has a lot of health; you can stack his health with resists, yeahbut his only real mobility move that takes him anywhere is rising ramnot to mention that he's slow as fuckso he's just a big ol, near-stationary punching bag that dies a lot in any match he's in, even with resists
>valve releases "spirit hero">gets nerfed because they can't balance for shit and the hero is broken on release>people realize that their gun is way overtuned because valve never thought anyone would build gun>gets nerfed again>hero is shit until they get buffed and the cycle repeatsvalve's insistence on nailing down just one or two playstyles for each hero caused this btw the item update was a mistake
>>573939405They need to make melee a viable and core playstyle
>>573938870I'm just making it easier for her to bounce her ball around
>>573939405Gun shouldn't be a viable playstyle on any character. That includes Venator, Wraith and Vyper.
What am i supposed to do if graves does nothing but zone and split push?
how much raw weapon damage do you actually need to counteract 30% bullet resist
>>573929014Techies players deserve nothing good in life.
>Gun shouldn't be a viable playstyle on any character. That includes Venatorlocal vatican man forced to adapt to what they're calling the first ever third person abilityer
Remove Silver's 2. That's it. Don't give her anything in return. Just delete it.
>>573940612Why? Her kit is already weak as fuck.
signs the game is overally bought one of the following:>tankbuster>items that turn off below 65% hp>headhunter>spirit snatch>lifestrike>crushing fists>any T3 spirit active item
>>573940035without shreds, around 45-50% weapon damage. so from 0 gun items, just buying weighted shots +40% and +18% investment is enough to go over that point.
>>573940803>any T3 spirit active itemAre you implying knockdown and silence wave are bad?
>>573941063>silence wave>only use is to proc indom
>>573941063*dispels your silence wave**counterspells your knockdown*
>>573941063They are indeed bad.
>he buys active items Shitlow hours
>>573939890Why play the moba shooter if you hate the shooter part?
>he buys itemsLet me guess, you NEED them to play? Get good
>he boughted green items
What should i be doing as a support when there isnt a team fight?
>>573942106How about not playing a made up meme role like support and actually being useful.
>>573940803>tankbustergarbage>items that turn off below 65% hpenchanter's emblem is fine the rest are crap>headhunterABSOLUTE GARBAGE>melee items SHIT and guaranteed they'll get parried late game, stun themselves for 3s and lose you the entire game over it instantly>any T3 spirit active itemDepends. Decay is in a rough spot because of how easily counterspelled/dispelled it is. Disarming Hex is on such a low CD with solid duration that I think it almost passes for dispel fodder and you'll get use out of it again in a fight anyways. Knockdown feels essential into certain characters but again dispel sucks the fun out of it. It could do with doing damage based on fall distance at least. Silence Wave is still solid it just has a rough CD now but like with superior duration landing 4s aoe stuns on a team is still pretty fucking big and can win fights on its own. Look at how effective Ivy silence is.
>infernus shoots me 30 times for 400 damage >afterburn does 900>has significantly more gun investment than spiritinfernus is so weak rn bros probably like D tier please buff yoshi how are we supposed to get kills on this hero????? literally impossible!
>>573940803>>573942342What rank are you guys?
>>573942106>>573942251Well it depends. Buying a DB to counter a pocket/wraith/seven/mirage/shiv or some shit is technically supporting and actually very valuable. A casual rescue beam can bail people out of certain death. Having a slowing hex to secure a kill. These are all support things. Saying they aren't useful is retarded and a clear sign you're either boosted or piss low.
>>573942439what if u buy dispel magic and he instnatly reapplies the burn? that counters him lol just buy counter items
>>573942578Should I be farming camps?
>>573942439Don't let yourself get shot 30 times maybe? He has to magdump someone at close range in lane for afterburn to even apply.
>>573934042yeah this is obnoxious, it happens with a lot of abilities that root you in place, abrams still charges but doesn't move you but the game still believes your hitbox is being carried by him so when he hits the wall you're stunned, and THEN it puts your hitbox where you actually are.
>>573942764>just don't get shotI never want to hear you niggers whine about venator ever again. just avoid the bolts lol?
>>573942918Who whines about Venator here except the fag that keeps whining that the game is a shooter at all?
>>573942479e5>>573942654You should only be farming camps if they're quickly farmable and your carry isn't actively taking them. Learn some box routes. Mostly leave your carry alone post lane so he can get a lead. Try gank and make space. Inform people of sinner spawns (first is 8m, respawn is every 5m after breaking). If they don't show up just start clearing them yourself. Take empty lanes if no ones calling for them. It's important to remind yourself that you do need to be selfish a bit and take SOME farm to do anything in the game. Don't let some fag bully you into being way behind. You can play support and still wind up with this sort of networth if you play well enough.
>>573942106Run boxes, farm an empty lane for 1-2 waves, clear a small camp, run urn, play around your initiator so you can maybe find a pick.
>>573926209You think too small-time Leaguefag. This is Icefrog we're talking about. Dota 2 already has someone like Karthus except he does 5x more damage and doesn't need to channel his global nuke.
>popoff in lane and mid game>lose because some retard decided he didnt wanna play anymore and just dies in their jungle for the 8th timehappened like 4 times today
>>573928565But can he force enemies to go through doors?
>>573931996There's gotta be 1 slut swimsuit and if Mina isn't wearing it who the fuck is?>Iv—Shut the fuck up>Vy—I SAID SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUP
>>573930905Mina is a vampire she literally can't show skin
>>573943504the secret to beating EOMM if you solo queue is just playing like 3 games a day max and if you lose AT ALL just instantly quit for the day
>buying active items when deadlock is a game about scaling and stat checking
>>573943935infuser, colossus and vampburst are actives too
>>573940803>>spirit snatch>>lifestrike>>crushing fiststhere really should be a disclaimer here for billy players that says "UNLESS YOU ARE BILLY"
>>573940803>>573942342hello tankbuster schizo. please stop samefagging. I don't care.
>>573944374>xhe thinks there's only one (1) tankbuster shitposterlet me guess, you think every silver and hoodwink post are also made by one person?
I've yet to see a single yamato that doesnt int
>tankbuster is... le bademissary 1 opinion
Holy shit i just came up with the perfect spirit snatch rework>spirit power steal and spirit resist steal removed>cooldown removedNow your light melees deal like 180 spirit damage EVERY light melee so meleeing has a point past the laning phase
>>573944627hoodwink posts are made by 2, maybe 3 people tops.silver gets repeatposted by many potential shitcord cabal fags otherwise her name wouldn't be plastered all over this gen every thread
>>573942106chat to your team and make friends!
>>573944751>billy's winrate temporarily goes up to 70%, then rebuttal's pickrate goes up to 99% and the rework gets revertedthat's so awsome
>haven't touched the game since THAT urn update>reinstall>hop straight back into standard match>graves>aaaaaaaand that's a rape>mvp>initiate 1 lobby>enemy told me to kill myselfThis character fucking sucks though but it was fun
>win 5 in a row>prepare myself mentally for the goverment-mandated loses that will happen in the next 30 games
>>573945279This problem is solved by deleting billy from the game
>>573934672It's not that he's squishy, but is susceptible to getting completely gangraped, especially if the Billy player repeatedly solos without thinking.Nonetheless, Billy is godlike in teamfights, but in every other scenario he just stands around and eats a few waves. Luckily, you can farm fairly well with him in case you're falling in soul count.Just know as Billy you're going to die. A lot. Even the #1 Global Billy player dies a fuckton as him. Granted, you're not going to being going 12/9 every game, sometimes you might only get a couple of deaths, but that's a lot less likely than dying repeatedly.
>Invite friend to try Deadlock>He says he didn't enjoy it that much>Okay cool proceed to continue to play deadlock>Find out he bought an account in Eternus>Ask him why he would buy an account for a game that is alpha>He told me that ranks are going to be kept on release>I tell him whoever told him that is retarded>mfw I'm friends with a retardI thought account buying was a meme but it's actually real.
>>573943216>Ranks hiddenHm, curious.
>>573943816i dunno i genuinely felt like i was getting better today i did some really cool plays and my movement was smoother than usuali think i went like 2-5 though
>>573945689Why would someone buy a high rank account for a game they don't even like regardless?
>>573938757>the male is eternuswhere is the correlation
>"I see you won one game. Now lets put you on the same team with a Yamato that goes 1-13"This matchmaking system is fucking broken
>>573945689>>He told me that ranks are going to be kept on releaseI mean, they're more likely to be kept than reset
>>5739463363-5 but whatever
>>573946339He thinks he's going to be able to sell the account when the game release for more money than he bought it for.
>>573923679whomstever had a hand in >graves>drifter>viscous >venator>apollo>billy>celeste>silvershould get more of his ideas in
>>573945932it's because I've been ping ponging between e4 and e5 because of shitters and I've just decided not to pay attention to it
>>573946648Hopoo...
>>573946648>how bout we design a melee oriented character in a game where enemy melee damage can be reduced effortlessly and parry windows last 300 centillion years?>BUUUUURRRRRR-ILLIAAAAAAANNNTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>573946415At most, your MMR will be weighed high and you'll still have to do placements. Which means you're definitely not hitting eternus if you needed to buy an account, assuming you can even place into it regardless. That's not even factoring in rank decay that I'm sure is already present.>>573946502>Gonna be able to sell it for moreI'm sorry you had to find out about your friend this way.
>>573947000speaking of, I wonder if his work on the new alt mode is slowing down the hero production
>>573947298He's working on the alt mode?We're for sure getting risk of deadlock lol
>>573947460likely something like that + mann vs machine from tf2. I could see that being mega popular if they allow custom maps
average e6 game
>>573948070>fed gun paradoxWhat?
>>573948302i dont know that lane had 6 deaths at 5 minutes
Maybe i got mad in the other thread but please just tell me how to stop games from going on for 60 minutes... or is it just out of my control in lower elo. I'd rather just lose at 30 minutes than win at 60 minutes
>>573948429Pick a scaling hero and win at about 45 minutes
>>573896173How do you counter Geist ult legit? I'm Seeker so I'm retarded.Do you just bait it with Counterspell?
>>573948517I play silver and holliday, i find ending the game harder on holliday even if i do good in early and midgame.
thoughts on extra regen vs healing rite
game so dead no one pointed out the game update on the thread
>>573909431this would be peak if fat.
>>573948974>another <100mb updatewhat's there to discuss? it's just bugfixes again probably
>>573948936extra chad allows me to continue taking favorable trades in lane and dominatenoob rite means I need to sit back in some room behind tower, shaking in fear lest it be interrupted
>>573948974I've been playing Marvel Rivals because at least there I don't have to wait 4-5 minutes for a game to be a tossup of a 45+ minute humiliation ritual.
>>573948974Hoodwink files have been found in the new update.
>>573949331Both games are humiliation rituals especially after they reworked teamups and widow fuck zhiyong
i run a pretty decent spirit victor at this point but i find that burst damage comps can be pretty tough. what should i be building into burst damage to keep myself alive better?
>>573923757there's an entire board on the forums dedicated to ideas that gigamog whatever valve could come up with.
>>573949331>diveslop rivalsat least callico and holiday and drifter fall off late game in deadcock
I haven't played in like 4 months. Why does Victor feel so awful now?
>>573943632paige should be the one wearing the string 'kini.
>>573948637you just silence her.
>>573948637Just walk away.
>>573948637Don't get close to her when she's low is a good idea. She has no stamina so if she jumps into you then it's your fault if she's not dead.
Who wants to queue together for shitty deadlock?
>>573951519I don't queue with shitlow players sorry.
Whats the best way to inflate the objective damage stat?
>>573952432Shoot objectrives
>>573952432have you tried hitting the objectives?
r they realy gunna add hood twink to the game?
>>573952432Constantly rotate and NEVER team fight
game is in a terribad state where every round feels like a humiliation ritual or a boring one sided stomp between whoever has the most meta characters on their team. This shit sucks ass
>>573953241the game balance is nearly perfect atm lol what are you talking about?
>>573953293>near perfect/tf2g/ is that way
>>573953293t. drifter
wraith players are all boosted fucking niggers who suck shit at the game and they get to terrorise high eternus games with their archon tier macro because of their overtuned piece of shit character. literally the dumbest fucking monkeys in every lobby I see them. never a single good wraith player.
>>573953528da game es poooorfectly balanced whatchyoo talkin baaaaaut
>>573953657this but ivy
shiv players are all boosted fucking niggers who suck shit at the game and they get to terrorise high eternus games with their archon tier macro because of their overtuned piece of shit character. literally the dumbest fucking monkeys in every lobby I see them. never a single good shiv player.
>>573953657>never a single good wraith player.What about metro?
In the spirit of the mm update let’s go over what an mm actually needs>populationBoth in the macro sense and in the micro “in q at the same time with the same skill as you”>timeBoth in the bigger “time it takes for system calibration” and the smaller “how long will people wait in q”>accurate skill measurement Both accurate as in both teams are close in skill but also that each individual player is close to the team averageI did an autism deep dive and found some relevant lit for each:1. Population — Aggregate: Bacci et al., Convergence and stationary distribution of Elo rating systems (2410.09180) 2. Population — Micro: Bet, van der Hofstad & van Leeuwaarden, Heavy-traffic analysis… diminishing populations (2018) — finite calling-population queueing theory; Knockout City blog as the applied/informal corroboration 3. Time — Queue: Emek, Kutten & Wattenhofer, MPMD (2016); Azar & Jacob-Fanani 4. Time — Calibration: Zhang et al., QuickSkill (CIKM 2022) 5. Accuracy — Team-average: Herbrich, Minka & Graepel, TrueSkill (2006); Minka, Cleven & Zaykov, TrueSkill 2 (2018); Nozawa, A Model of Rating and Matchmaking (2025) — new, joint accuracy/matching-tightness model 6. Accuracy — Individual: Pal, Cinder (2025)The most interesting ones are the most recent imo, the cinder contribution being only a year old and the first(?) real look into intra team individual variance and the Nozawa paper which shows that rescaling the spread between ratings can increase convergence and accuracy without sacrificing closeness
Buff Bebop, Mo&Krill, Kelvin, Dynamo, Graves and McGinnis.
What the fuck is this matchmaking. The other day i was on a win streak then i keep losing because someone keeps inting or just goes AFK. Its like just losing because of shit completely out of my control.
>>573954293This but unironically
>>573952432The patron is usually free and worth a couple thousand, you can hit nothing all game then finish patron and end up middle of the packI don’t think you can cheese it because I don’t think obj regenerate
can i get advice for silver? she feels really bad to play until late game where her gun actually does anything. i also feel like my ult procs at the worst time, how do i play her?
>>573943935More buttons more winning, simple asThe less simple answer is that the actives are tuned higher to compensate for execution failure, and the deeper fact that buttons with effects change the game state so literally more buttons more winning
>ascendant 3>calico on my team dies TWENTY TWO TIMES and is the sole reason my game is unwinnableyou really never are past this shit are you
https://vocaroo.com/17OoJT3Tigtwbased urn
>>573954687Sorry bro but I run it down if we lost at draft.#RAPEYOSHI
>>573954442she rewards going face, plus landing heavy melees make your rage meter shoot up, so you should be going apeshit balls deep into the enemy team, throwing melees around, with the expressed purpose of getting form. The tricky part is not getting blow up before you can proc it, but if you do proc it, you're already in the middle of the enemy team aka the best position possible to be pressing 4.
>>573954724*huff*
>>573954757get out of my marvel rivals shitlordgames are won by player skill until you are e6+
what was she dreaming about?
>>573954442Slowing bullets+point blank is all the gun damage you need and then you focus on bulking up and buying utilityIf you STILL don't feel like you have enough damage you can upgrade slowing bulletsMost gun T4s (really most T4s in general) are just not worth it, stick to the 3.2ks if you need more: Escalating resilience, Berserker, Heroic aura, and especially Hunter's aura if they're buying some resistsIf it's not convenient to itemize it just don'tI don't like most of the 1.6k vitality items so I usually sit on stamina and health while upgrading melee lifestealYou do not want 6.3k souls burning a hole in your pocket unless you REALLY need toSecret tech I've found: wolf form 1 hides heavy melee charge and causes near 0 downtime on M1
>>573955616https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52i14wYBef8
>fall from asc to oracle spamming magic man>egos noticeably inflating through the roof the worse the players get
>>573955959Spam mokrill
Why does yamato get a gap closer that isn't a skill shot, goes through walls, doesn't cancel even if you get away from it sfter she used it, HAS 3 CHARGES THAT YOU CAN RESET WITH HER ULT SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE 6 OF THEM AND IT ISNT A SKILLSHOT!??!!???! HELLO?
>>573956029i'm not trying to climb i'm trying to learn magic man.
>>573953293i would kill you with my bare hands if you were in front of me
>>573956069
>>573953657this but geist>>573953719this but geist
>>573955959>egos noticeably inflating through the roof the worse the players getI mean, shit, just look at this general.
>>573956158>5000 hours in mspaint
>>573956158not really havnet played in a week
>>573956158It's funny because it's accurate.
>>573956069dw they reduced the range by 2 meters its basically garbage now
I enjoy playing Deadlock.
I enjoy running it down on Deadlock.
>>573956158>You can log off anytime you like>But you can never leave!
>>573956069because thats all its for, it does 0 damage
>load into deadlock>press tab and immediately see you lost the draft
>>573957813No diaper?
Is it common knowledge that you can just press the ult key as silver when it's full to instantly transform? I thought I had to sit through the channeling, that's such a life saver.
>>573958027Common knowledge among people that read their abilities.
>>573958114The ability text doesn't mention it
>>573957813Where are the spank marks?
>pick bebop>permaban graves>pick all items that increase my speed>pick items that turn me invisible>run around the map like a retard placing bombs on people then fucking off at mach 50>have fun regardless if I win or notI am no longer angry at Deadlock. I'm at peace.
>>573958027Silvertroons will insist it's not instantaneous because there's a 0.001s delay
>>573958265>having fun while losingthere needs to be a study on who people are like this and how often they become cucks/trans in real life
>>573958201
>>573958472this is stupid because theres literally a 0.3 second transformation animation
those pro builds must be to troll low eloswhat do you start on wraith, first buy?monster rounds?egg?extra spirit?regen?no, headshot booster with no intent of building headhunter, to sell it in 5 minutes
>>573958635its literally the strongest item to trade damage in laning phase and you dont sell it until 15-20 mins when you need a slot retard
>>573958635Yes, you low elo retarded monkey.a headshot booster + 4 bodyshots + card literally outtrades any character in the game.GOD fucking FORBID you have a joker.
>>573958756from the same creators of you can leave the baroness easily no matter what they debuff you with and silver is the strongest hero: min maxxed lane item that won't work outside of a spreadsheet and sandbox because there are no 1v1 lanes and their teammates won't just watch you do whatever you want
>>573958413>there needs to be a study on-ACK!
>>573958413I can't imagine losing in a video game or seeing someone say they had fun and immediately thinking about cuckoldry and trannies.
>>573958413>giving an iota of a shit about winrates/elo in a game that isn't even fucking out yetyou BETTER be Ascendant+ or I NEED you to get the fuck out of my thread
>>573959051>min maxxed lane item that won't work outside of a spreadsheet and sandboxExcept they're eternus and winning while you're crying about how it can't possibly work.
i miss punch urn. going full slop mode is better than w/e they have now
>>573958881or you can just wait until qsr for your second buy before you start fighting. what? fighting in the first minute of the game? we already have that, it's called burgerboxing. don't need fucking headshot booster for that>b-but poke!!just card them?
>>573959632>billy player>I miss punch urnMan I wonder why?
as a seven main if enemies buy headshoot booster they should be banned for target greifing
>>573959051>>573959638truly nothing ITT pisses me off more than low elo retards who have never even sniffed high elo thinking they know more about itemization than fucking Eternus 4+ players.
>>573959963the same Eternus players who used to buy Surge of Power on Warden and imbue it on fucking Flask (0.6 SCALING) every time?
>>573958472"At max bloodlust, you automatically cast it" This leads one to believe that the active effect happens automatically.
>silver gun firing after using abilities is still buggedat this rate anything that's been a known bug for longer than a month is official release quality
>>573954194he's another boosted retard
>>573959739That's a retarded thing to ask for as a billy player because punch urn made rebuttal a good buy in general instead of something they have to contemplate wasting a slot on just for you alone
guys why does the game keep updating
>>573957813idk how to play mina shes too squishy
>>573960310they have a ci/cd pipeline that builds in every merge and releases it to prod rather than having a waterfall deployment schedule
>>573960065>for the AP and not the attack speed + MS + uptime on flaskHOLY DUNNING KRUGER
>>573959051>from the same creators of you can leave the baroness easily no matter what they debuff you withi mean yeah
>>573960091If that was the case there'd be no reason to specifically separate it into active/passive because it would have no active component, but they did and it clearly states "active: instantly transform".It could definitely be written in a more intuitive way but it's not that hard to grasp.
>>573960091You're in Seeker for a reason
>>573960482exhibit b
>>573960619bs whenever im in game and i make it to the end when the bar is white i get fucked over
>Wraith absolutely losing a fight>Ults>Spams cards>Gets all her fucking HP back for no reason.Holy shit Valve, stop listening to your retarded "competitive" players and gut this fucking character into nothing already. It's the exact same fucking thing every game.
>>573960468Then why didn't they imbue it on the barrier to get a broken combat stim? (barrier warden best m1 right now)Valve had to buff barrier's already extremely high scaling twice for retards to finally get the message.
WHAT IS IN THIS UPDATE?
???
>>573961058>Valve had to buff barrier's already extremely high scaling twice for retards to finally get the message.wow they had to make an ability op for people to start abusing it?!?!?! woah this has never happened in gamging ever
>>573961451>wow they had to make an already op ability even stronger for "pro" retards to even consider itftfy
>>573921972coming in late to say you're retarded
>>573961451People on here will act so vindicated and like they're unrecognized geniuses amongst a sea of buffoons when some opinion they've had for ages is finally validated by seventeen different patches buffing the thing and nerfing alternatives.
Capacitor Paradox will be all the talk someday... just you wait...
>wow another Wraith just single handily the entire lobby, surely it isn't a smurf again this time?
>>573961695lol and they literally did nerf the spirit scaling on flask too
>>573961679I accept your concession
>>573961924>gets SSS+nator>immediately shits the bedwew
>>573962003He's just too honest...
>>573961971>surge of power flask damage change after nerf: -3 damageTHIS... CHANGES EVERYTHING...
>>573962115Seeker-kun...
This poor S+ character needs more buffs yoshi, I can't stop winning.
Willpower had 3.7 scaling before March update btwGuess what Eternus "pros" imbued SoP on instead?
>>573948070they fear the mochad
I've stopped enjoying the game ever since the KOTH urn update, and even before that I was starting to become skepticalThis game is full of so much unfun bullshit and every patch the unfun bullshit gets worse. Heroes that don't need nerfs get nerfed and heroes that don't need buffs get buffed. Playing for rank doesn't matter when Yoshi can just boost pisslows at will. I pray to god the matchmaking update permanently bans me and my 7 alts so I can finally be free from this fucking prison.
can't play mario anymore without seeing that green fuck
>>573962297The CD on max lvl willpower was 23 seconds before the march update retard kun
>>573962701good, nintendies must suffer
Why does Drifter 1 deal a gorillon damage now?
I hate the official discord so much
reminder that deadlock rank is directly correlated to your value as a human being and it should be the only thing you care about
>>573961058because of it's cooldown, you stupid fucking retard?hello?you want UPTIME on the MS+attack speed, not raw potency.that's why Seven players were putting it on 1 in some metas instead of 3.same with Surge on dagger.READ the posts you respond to, dipshit cancerlow.
>>573962430>my 7 altsmental illness
what mental illness is this
>>573962701abrams...?
>>573964115>I don't play low prio gamesso he doesn't want to leave low prio?
>>573964084nta but if you're a doorman main you need 3+ alts due to the sheer amount of games you'll be abandoning due to bans.
>pocket who never helps teammates
>>573964115????
Am I cooking with Lifestrike on victor for the slow and spirit snatch?
>>573964115>check stream>troon voice>"I voice porn" in bio>pornsick gooner vtube avataryou literally can not make this shit up
>>573964115????????>>573964357this game is just a breeding grown for the mentally illthe mental gymnastics i see in low prio surprises me every day
>>573964546>>573964583>tranny>pussyfree. . . ?
>>573964446>if you're a doorman mainmental illness
>>573964115>>573964704>>573964546women truly are something else.surely you can report this to the forums with game ID and screenshots to get them HWID banned for scripting, right? please do that.
>>573964850literally a trans
>build stone form and duration>give enemy team cancerprofit
>>573965031>torment pulse without ee
Whats gonna be the next furry hero?
>>573965103i dont care because torment pulse is in my l-r and ee isn't
>>573965031>>573965176eternusBVLL
>>573965031God I wish ivy would land on my cock like that
I get why people dont want a surrender option in this game but every time im forced to play against the most obvious smurfs on their one trick I want it to happen
So this is like every other moba and climbing as a support play is impossible because you get games like this constantly.Don't tell me to play carry because I can't.
>>573964850Inshallah
>>573965717>rem 4 actives no trans cooldown>doorman 0 actives with trans cooldownwe live in a society
>>573965551Everyone who claims they don't want a surrender button are either evil or lying. They also have a made up story about "muh hour long come back game that we won through grit,"Nevermind that that never happens, and even if it did you could have won two games in the time it took to grind that out.
>>573965105I really hope its a teenaged doe with huge boobs fahaha
>get into a game with beaners>they hold w while typing jajaja after running into the enemy team 1v4 on repeatI thought they all fucked off to marvel rival what the fuck
you can't do anything about having bad teammates, what you can do is improve your own play so that you climb over an extended period of gamesinstead of asking why the biggest retard on your team went 0-14 ask yourself why you went 1-7, cause based on the metrics shown here you're really not much different
>>573965861Not getting the trans cooldown was on me, I was so tilted by the end of that game I forgor.Every person besides Shiv and me buitl egg and held them until thirty minutes.
>>573965991rivals bans griefers feeders and afkers now
>>573964583Mommy
>>573965997meant for>>573965717
>>573965876i put up with it longer than i should have in dota, if the matchmaking fucks me just let me out
>>573966391This quitter mindset is a slippery slope
They key to climbing in shitlow is to play like a rat. That's how I did it. Stop saving your teammates and only play whatever is meta and try to hit the major powerspike for the build. Then rape the lobby because most shitlow players unless they're a smurf won't counter you.
You should NOT de-rank if you're the key player on a losing teamIts bullshit
>>573966958you get key player by just jungle brooling though
>>573965997>why did you go o/76 of those deaths were post 25 minutes. Not a whole lot you can do as Rem once they are in your base killing everyone. Doorman had 10 deaths pre 15. These are not remotely the same.
>>573966958>childrens shooter does a rank mode better than actual esport games
>>573966771Yes because i want to quit especially when the matchmaking is so one-sided or when one lane has turbo fed drifter or some shit. I don't mind a loss but this shit just makes the game unfun especially outside a structured competitive mode
>>573967152>japanese people are better at programming than h1b jeetswow amazing information
apollo reminds me of those browns who live in argentina/brazil and think they're white. esp because he dyes his hair blonde
>>573933215Indians like you go back to >>>/india/, fuck outta here Poopinderpreet
Deadlock needs an indian hero
>>573967906Whiter than you Darcy.
>>573968782Well Darcy is a Jew so you're not wrong.
>>573968743just mod infernus to shit out diarrhea and throw feces at people
>https://youtu.be/uSja-CZN9BkUrn voice pickup line for each character
>>573932158This one?
What mental illness causes someone to think about the color of random people's skin in an Alphatest MOBA general
>>573969752the 4chan kind
>Characters have a ton of ping lines and shit>Scroll wheel of only 10/12 commandsThere's gotta be a better way to have basic commands like fall back, push, ult ready, while also having shit like not ready for team fights, let's hide, etc.
>Skill based matchmaking>The only thing that matters if you winkkkkkkkk
>>573969884You can have more than 1 wheel
can we remove lash or just nerf his ult im so tired of being forced to buy 3 items just to counter him
what's a "low prio game"? Is it just when you have to play a game with another hero who isn't your top pick?
>>573969998How
>>573970285Low prio is the "you've been a naughty little faggot" queue of the game you get thrown into if you leave too often or get a ton of reports. Queues are longer and you can only play with other low prio players until you finish so many games to get back into normal queue
>>573970369so how do you know if you got put in a low prio lobby?
>>573970334https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htzy8KSpeq0
>>573970468Game literally tells tou
>>573967906Apollo is red
I keep bouncing between initiate and arcanist, how do I stop this?
How do I split push in this game?
>>573970805You split your push. Hope this helps!
>>5739708051. observe where everyone is on the map2. go to where they are not and push
>>573971158Don't do this you'll get ganked
>>573969884I assume eventually they'll make it more like the dota system where you have a ping wheel specifically for map pings and a separate wheel for other comm lines.
>>573971221its worth it if you get objectives
>>573969884>ping wheel>in the year 2000+26 lord of our saviorgames that use this are so fvcking retardedHiRez solved this forever ago with VGS VGTG VEW
>>573970805looking at the map is the best place to start, see where the team fights are then rush the wave on the other side of the map until you can take down the walker, even if one of the enemy smartens up and goes to your lane, as long as you can take down the walker your death is going to be worth it
>>573970587>pause on game start>request from paused nigger for lange change>have to accept or they'll report me for griefing>have to mute myself and them so I dont accidently say something that'll triiger them>still get reported because we lost and sent to low prio>valve is too lazy to hire moderators and relies on mob ruleDeadlock is for russians and niggers
>>573971348God I miss Smite. I miss playing Sobek. Last time I fully played, Merlin was broken.
>Top 1 player has his wife reading off chat questions for him
>>573970682learn a m1gger that can carry browns/zoomers
>stuck in pisslow (seeker/alchemist)>my best/most confident characters are supports
>>573972589>jjk imageyeah nah ur prob just shit mate
>>573972589yuji actually got stronger unlike you
which hero has the most boosted players that absolutely don't deserve their rank
What if Valve balanced it so you're allowed to fucking play the game? God, no, what a terrible idea right? I mean, the E6 players would be throwing a hissy fit if they couldn't shit stomp a one-sided match.
>>573972887>>573972921I just downloaded the image, I haven't watched JJK since they had some retarded tournament arc with a tree demon or something
>>573973092Wraith, absolutely no question. Most free character there is. If you lose, you'd have to be mega shit
>>573973092Wraith and Haze
>>573973160>I haven't watched JJK since they had some retarded tournament arc with a tree demon or somethingfuck dude you tapped out before the show even got remotely good or interesting
https://gamebanana.com/mods/671313this is the mod that singlehandedly makes me feel sane while playingif I remove this mod from my game, akin to removing the cow texture from tf2, it won't do anything to the game per say, but instead will shatter my mind into a million, scattered piecesif I remove the mod, my mind goes with it
>>573964115Gotta respect the audacity to say that with your retarded twitch channel as your display name
>had one of those rare comebacks from a patron below 10% health todayfeels good
>Be on losing streak all day yesterday and today>Went from almost promoted to almost losing 2 tiers>Win one game>No longer want to playDoes it get any better?
>>573974056Yes, but you have to let go of playing for the rank when you get into that mindset. Play for personal enjoyment and self-improvement.
>>573973886stop cheating
Abuse paradox before she abuses you
>>573965784I meant the forums/discord. this shit needs to be taken directly to someone
>>573964583>Dynamo>Lash>Bebopand there it is, THE quintessential tranny mains.
Can we get a dedicated fuck fliers hero already?
>>573973886you people will do anything other than hit your push to talkGod, you people are pussies.
you think mina wears a pad or a tampon or diva cup
>>573975857Haze? Dagger them from an off angle (what you're already supposed to be doing btw) then silence wave/focus lens them and kill them.also Apollo 2and Yamato can air fight really welland Phantom strikeand Knock downetc etc
Voice chat: OffText chat: OffPings: OffYup, its deadlockin time.
>>573976148Waffles are cool anon but I asked when are we getting pancakes.
>>573976253fatty
>Load into game constantly stressing whether the Abrams or Yamato will go 1-16 before the timer even hits 10 minutes>I now get reamed out in the ass because of themYeah, I'm uninstalling this. I have far better ways of spending my time then being punished because of someone elses fucking up.
>>573969474wtf is that thumbnail LOL
I've genuinely tried to force dagger build haze to be a thing for so, so long now and i'm so happy it actually works for once. I will enjoy it before it inevitably gets nerfed out of viability
>enjoy rem, graves, seven, bebop, calico, paige, mcginnis, mina, ivy, mo&krill>haven't touched the rest seriouslyRecommendations?
>>573954331maybe post your statlocker so we can see your individual performance compared to your teammates
>>573975857Sorry, I learned from the best (war thunder) and since the game has built in CCIP I will do rapid flights in and out dropping precision guided munitions (entangling thorns, kudzu bombs, alchemical flasks, Dynamos) on your position (the lane) while staying out of range of anything you can do to stop me. I bought refresher. Welcome to your own personal Vietnam, Charlie.
So a teammate disconnects five minutes and 1 seconds into the game and I'm force to eat a loss for that? Why? Explain the logic.
>>573977395You didn't deserve the win.
>>573977206Its not that I think I'm some god gamer. I just get people that die 0 times and maybe get 1 kill. And its almost always a Yamato. If I were a schizo I would think these yamatos are feds deliberately throwing my games.
>>573977507>that die 10 times and maybe get 1 kill.*
pic rel: things that are better than deadlock
>>573937290IM READY!
>>573969962yes? your contribution to your winrate will reveal itself over multiple matches. theres empirical academic proof of glicko working on team games
>>573972106this has literally never happened
Fighting a fed Shiv is easily the most powerless I've felt in a game in a long time. You literally cant even touch him and if you do then he can just fly away. Even like a fed Victor before the nerfs felt like he at least had weaknesses and counterbuying had value.
>>573978859>Your teammate fed 10+ deaths before the 10 minute mark>We lose because the enemy is fed like hell>This reflects poorly on my skillkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
>>573978982BLEED
>>573979048>relying on glicko approved mmr assasination teammates instead of playing with friends to beat the system
>>573979048yes? sometimes this guy will be on the enemy team so it balances out. you cant actually be this fucking retarded
>>573978982AH TRIED TO BE NICE
>>573979170>You won because the other person is a retard and died 17 times to you>This a reflection of your skillkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
>>573979282yes precisely. over time and multiple matches your winrate or mmr will reflect your individual skill as youre the only constant in your matches. if you keep winning even slightly above 50% of your matches you will climb towards your true rank
>>573979196theres actually no stage of the game where shiv tries to be nice to the enemy team
>>573979469>over time and multiple matches your winrate or mmr will reflect your individual skillGood job completely missing the point.
if you don't pause on faggot bebop players while they're bleeding to death, are you really playing Shiv?
>>573979508good job not understanding anything i guess? it doesnt matter what happens at the level of one match when its the whole that counts in the end
>>573979591No, I understand how the system works completely. I think its retarded. You dont understand my point because you are retarded.Theres a difference
>>573964115>>573964704>>573964546https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1uvyau3/low_prio_has_some_interesting_characters/interesting...
>>573979804>No, I understand how the system works completely. I think its retarded.how come? because youre low rank?>You dont understand my point because you are retarded.what is your point other than>there is a bad player on either side of the team in one match and this has a tiny weight on my rank
>>573937290I want Abathur, murky, the lost Vikings
>>573980130>"Spoon feed me because I dont have reading comp"kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
>>573978982This but Abrams, Warden, Billy, Yamato and Pocket.
>>573960619>>573960482>have to do a bunch of nonsensical movement tech to get out of the ultyeah this shit is why people aren't interested in deadlock
Gonna blow my fucking brains out just played against a dual capacitor and the funny thing is they would have lost if my Rem didn't afk shit ass Wraith+Ivy abusers buff Silver
>>573976727I'm just glad you can play her as something other than an ultbot for a bit. I'm also savoring it before she's gutted.
Any chance I could grab an invite? I am kinda bored of dota atm and need a new game to ruin my evenings with after workhttps://steamcommunity.com/id/omgkittens/
>>573978982And this is after he got nerfed about 30 patches in a row
>>573982236>strafing>wall jumping>dashing>nonsensical movement techdid anyone in this thread go past the tutorial section
>>573984018legitimately why play deadlock if you're not going to use the movement?there are countless other hero shooters with none of it
>>573984463Everything should be homogenized to play just like the games I'm already familiar with. I don't want to learn or experience anything new. It's scary. I'm gonna go bitch about how this industry is full of uncreative hacks that can only churn out remakes now.
>>573984572it's crazy how challenge-averse "people" are nowadayscan't have shit in detroit because slop factories keep churning out mvp's for the npcs
>>573983326Yeah, sent you request. don't cheat and get my alt banned.
who am i
>>573985001most likely mcginnis, from the looks of it
>>573983326expect it in your library within 8-20 hours.>>573985001someone with RANCID shit taste
>>573985110>>573985147i WILL press 4 and YOU will like it
>>573985001an aimlet
matchmaking update when
>>573977113It's over.
>always 1 or 2 dead alone before a fight>they're also by far the lowest net>literally like a 100k net lead for the enemy at the end4 people on my team 20k under me and my random laning buddygreat job yoshi excellent matchmaking
>infernus F tier in eternuscrazy how deadlock players are so bad at the game itself that one of the most broken heroes in the game has a 42% winrate
>>573986295venator where's your dmg?
i listened to the new urn voicelines and i gotta say i don't think i found a single one of them funny, they're all what you would expect from it interacting with the characternot that they need to be funny mind you but they also don't reveal anything newdeadlock players will say it's the PEAK of game writting though. sad
>>573977113a noose
>>573943574unironically yes because you can literally trap them on spawn with themunless they've patched that out. otherwise same answer only apply a teammate's cc in there
>>573980810why are you using "" with the arrow? seeing youre retarded enough to not understand how quotations and greentext work on 4chan and its culture how can i expect you to understand mathmaking. i made a mistake trying to argue this with you
>>573986135next week thursday
>>573986135It will change nothing. There aren't that many good players to fill your team with every time. Even then, good players have bad games too. You can't solve human unpredictability with matchmaking.
>>573920813I swear to FUCK if even TF2 gets a update before us....
>uggghhhh gun is so weak i hate spirit slop meta!
>>573987000everyone knows these items are worthless >metal skin, look! I can stop you from shooting me for about 3 seconds! it only makes me slow as fuck *whole team gets guned down by gun carry in 2.9 seconds, swift reload 0.1, kills you* Sure am happy I spent 3.2k gold on that worthless trash!>Disarming hex: oh boy I can stop gun from shooting for 2 seconds! yes they can still move yes they can still use all there skills>Hey return fire thats the trick! I can do about 50 damage before I die!!
>>573986486He knows Billy on a somewhat personal level, so I feel like Billy worked at the Municipal Coven at some point.Also mentions the witches of the Municipal Coven, so it's not just a fancy name for street cleaners but an actual literal witches' coven working for the city.I think I heard him mention the vampire viscount's name in one of the Drifter lines.
>>573987701a lot more lore drops then I was expecting ya. got I hope we get trapper
>>573987000>Gun is so weak that people don't even bother trying to counter it until a fed gun carry is poised to win the game whereas spirit res and counterspell are just common items people get>Gun is so weak that people fall for the trap of trying to counter buy it when they'd be better off just ignoring it and countering other characters or getting strongerGun has so little impact on the game that counterbuying it is a literal waste of souls that lowers your winrate while looking to counter spirit is always a positive.
>>573943632>I SAID SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUPIt would be Vyper. I don't want it to be Vyper, but we both know she would wear one. She goes to a place called Pole Palace for fuck's sake.
>>573987701>He knows Billy on a somewhat personal level, so I feel like Billy worked at the Municipal Coven at some point.yeah that's about it really although it's not anything big like that other retard's saying. "billy did community service" yeah no shit he's the local fake punk
apollo having a free 2.2 sec stun that avoids any dmg is insane wtf he should be first pick every game
>>573974167>Play for personal enjoymentlmao
>stomps you
lol
>>573988613"matchmaking shouldn't exist" boomers in shambles
>>573988613Why did it try to balance the teams?
>>573988083ssshhhh just abuse it till e6 before its patched
my team is full of idf agents inting for money i swear
>>573989573>>573989573
>>573987960>le safe horny snake xd
>>573945689>Invite friend to try Deadlock>calls someone retarded
>>573990160vyper is literally the opposite of safe lol
Today I'm going to build....Tankbuster