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MVP Edition

>Latest patch:
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=688635449342696590

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>574085597
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can't wait for the next major update to just be pve slop that no one gives a shit about
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holy shit vraic you slimy bastard
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She's SOOOOOOOO strong
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Silverbros, get in the discord we need to have a meeting on how to contain this RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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gay sex with apollo!
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we know that the bad matchmaking thread is over 1000 pages on the feedback forums and 60% our playerbase quit in the past 2 months so we made the urn GAY. enjoy!
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HOLY FUCL ABRAHAMS IS GETTING RAPED LIVE
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>shiv not even picked a single time in dlns
tardbros I thought he was overpowered??? what's going on???
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they need to HURRY UP with the pve mode im TIRED of MOBASLOP
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1uwyvb3/any_idea_when_they_will_global_release_it_i_wanna/

reminder that open beta will allow millions of indians to join deadlock. be careful what you wish for.
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>>574163443
i think you mean the rift now which is a mini diet mid boss. which is fucking retarded remove it already!
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>>574163767
im referencing the new urn voice lines that make him gay
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Silver objectively needs buffs.
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>>574163867
he was already gay
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>>574162795
better than dealing with the retarded shit these devs pass off as "balance"
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Just won a game on Silver
>phantom strike into 2 into Spirit Snatch true combo
Literally instant transform
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https://youtu.be/JzVIkY5tKcE
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>>574163998
>be bad
>die 1v1 against the hero that's good in 1v1
>cry
Why is he like this?
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bitches call me the microwave
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>everybody agrees MM is busted
>nobody can explain besides muh shitty teammates
>nobody can come up with a good fix
After 7k hours in Dota 2, I'm convinced there's nothing wrong with the matchmaking, people are just mad about their rank.

I will die on this hill.
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>>574164068
Also guess which one of these fuckass lanes were premade
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>>574164264
>>nobody can explain besides muh shitty teammates
>>nobody can come up with a good fix

Add casual ranked mode, disable party queuing in high ranks, remove hero based rank (this is what forces you to shit like 8+ wins in a row to rank up) and actually balance the broken heroes for once.


Wow that was hard.
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>>574164467
>casual ranked mode
literally doa
no one is playing "casual" ranked
It's ranked OR casual
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gg ez
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>>574164537
I meant casual AND ranked, which is what the game had.
No dev is retarded enough to force everyone into one singular fucking queue except the retards valve hires.
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>>574164467
You just described Dota 2. And people are just as mad at matchmaking, with the same arguments.
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I just know the melee haze nerf is coming
Even though gun haze is objectively better
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time to go afk
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>>574164467
>>574164590
What do you expect splitting the queue into ranked and unranked would actually accomplish?
It won't stop you from feeling like you're getting shitty teammates.
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silver is le op unlike seven the B tier hero ok
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>>574164979
he's the kind of nigga who plays "pootis heavy" in TF2 then cries when people kill him, i can feel it
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Seven isn't even good
His ult is good
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>>574164979
Not only peoples performance in casual shouldn't affect ranked but it's absurd that there's no way to learn new heroes and test stuff beyond doing it in ranked which completely fucks up many games.
Combine that with hero performance and you get this dogshit matchmaking, you sound like a Valve employee defending his retarded decisions.
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the silver is weak, its feeble, i think its time to put the hurt on the silver
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>>574164979
>What do you expect splitting the queue into ranked and unranked would actually accomplish?
idk maybe the game would be fun instead of this weird half-eceleb half-alpha completely fucking dead -10% player count each week bullshit it is now?
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>>574165498
You literally have street brawl for trying out heroes. I'm on the fence about the hero performance metric myself, but can you explain why exactly that system is bad?
>>574165608
>Maybe
That's the keyword here. Also, is your argument really that something that affects the top 1% of players is to blame for a reduction in the player count?
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>>574165860
Street brawl is both new compared to the combination of queues and an absolute meme joke of a mode that does not translate to the real game, are you literally fucking archon or some shit?
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>What? *munch much* Push the lane? *much munch* I'm on my lunch break, dude.
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>>574166121
haven't played in months, give me the quick rundown how do I play graves now
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>>574165936
I'm trying to see if you people can come up with a compelling argument on why matchmaking is bad that doesn't boil down to
>muh teammates make my rank bad
>hurling insults like an 11 year old nigger
and so far I remain unconvinced.
I don't understand what's wrong with Street Brawl as a venue for learning mechanics of how heroes work. If I ask you to elaborate are you going to try to insult me again or can you tell me anything of value?
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>>574165860
>only affects 1%
half-eceleb is shit like some niggerfaggot whining they died as haze on stream because he's a shitter resulting in an absurd buff to her knife which now has made her an absurd invisible 1shot machine that needs fixed
half-alpha is the retarded "well its OKAY that the game is shit and recieves no updates, its an ALPHA" mindset despite the game being out for 2 fucking years killing all momentum the release had

would casual queue save the game? fuck no not if they dont fix other things
will it give new players a place to actually learn characters and mechanics in a real match and not some RNG shitter mode with infinite flight, permaslows, and other broken scalings? would it be better than what we have right now? would it lead to an increase in player retention? absolutely 100% yes and if you dont think so you're a complete mongoloid

>hurr the matchmaking update is coming
3+ months from now, why, its not hard to slap pre-existing MMR systems into a fucking video game, it takes ~2 weeks at most to code, implement, bugtest, playtest, and ship, complete fucking incompetency from valve
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>>574166240
Because learning "mechanics" can be done in the sandbox, learning how to ACTUALLY play the hero beyond initial mechanics without being a detriment to the team and yourself requires either smurfs or a casual queue, one is bannable and the other one doesn't exist.
There's no real fucking learning in street brawl that you can't learn in the sandbox and eventually will actually make you worse because it's a completely different game with different balance and meta and items, you cannot learn actual timings, laning, item combinations, ability orders, power spikes, when you're weak, when you're strong, what to do in x or y situations and a million other things in street brawl.

>If I ask you to elaborate are you going to try to insult me again
If you don't want to be called a low ranked retard then stop acting like one.
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>>574166192
build jar
throw jar
build 3
build any self-heal and sprit
walk forward press m1
hope team isnt poo because you're not a carry class unless you're mid/low rank
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A casual mode should exist so I can run meme builds and not feel bad for running it down.
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>>574166457
>half-alpha is the retarded "well its OKAY that the game is shit and recieves no updates, its an ALPHA" mindset despite the game being out for 2 fucking years killing all momentum the release had
The worst part is that it's a closed alpha but gets the treatment of a released GAAS product.

Zero reason why there hasn't been a ton of reworks on perma broken shit by now, Silver has been aids ebola since day 1, it's been
FIVE MONTHS
I
V
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M
O
N
T
H
S

OF SILVER BEING PICK/BAN
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>>574166192
you skullmax. you become a skullGOD. you live and die with your skulls. and then someone buys ricochet and your life is fucking over
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>>574166705
streetbrawl is right there
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>>574166192
I want bunny graves to take a dump on my chest...
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>>574167332
Pray you get lucky getting the items you want versus having a dedicated nothing matters casual mode where I can buy the exact items I need are two different things.
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>>574166748
zombos > skellingtons
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I don't get why people shit on Graves even if I'm pisslow, she's like Engie from TF2 but way stronger
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>>574166192
you queue for a different character and wait until next patch.
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>>574166457
>half-eceleb
>streamer
So is it top 1% shit or not, then?
>alpha as an excuse
You do realize the only alternative is not to release the game in any form instead?
>would it lead to an increase in player retention? absolutely 100% yes and if you dont think so you're a complete mongoloid
>3+ months from now, why, its not hard to slap pre-existing MMR systems into a fucking video game, it takes ~2 weeks at most to code, implement, bugtest, playtest, and ship, complete fucking incompetency from valve
Okay thank you told me everything I need to know. Assumptions I know are wrong from what I've seen in Dota 2.

Is this really about retention, though, or matchmaking?

>>574166581
>Because learning "mechanics" can be done in the sandbox, learning how to ACTUALLY play the hero beyond initial mechanics without being a detriment to the team and yourself requires either smurfs or a casual queue
I think I understand, and I do agree to an extent that bare understanding of mechanics doesn't translate 1:1 into actual play, but things movement, rotations, and other macro knowledge is universal. Playing a farming hypercarry is playing a farming hypercarry. Same with other "roles". Besides, that's what the hero rank system is intended for, among other things - to account for the rating cost of learning new heroes.

>If you don't want to be called a low ranked retard then stop acting like one.
I'm asking you to convince me, not coddle me.
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>>574167772
she's made for literal retards to play
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>>574167772
every hero in this game is retarded simple but people will make up an excuse for anything
graves is extremely retarded simple to begin playing but regularly complicated to perform well with because she requires really good macro and positioning so that balances out the retarded kit
people will cry at whatever latches on for whatever hero they don't like when they lose or die to them
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>>574167772
????????????? in tf2 you need an uber charge to get rid of even a half-confident turret nest. in deadlock anybody can light melee her skulls and the shittiest guns can mow down zombies. on the off chance graves invests 100% of her souls into summons the m1gger carry can buy ricochet and supports like dynamo can wipe everything out with a single stomp etc.
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>>574167772
>I don't get why people shit on Graves
she doesnt have to aim her m1 that's it, lowrank/lowskill shooter faggots always get assblasted over this when they die to a "shit character", same shit as the jeet in overwatch with her lasers and aimbot m1, all you need to do is backup, shoot the skulls and zombies and break her grave and she's fucking useless which is why she only is popular in low ranks
and actually its the same reason people get assblasted over the few good doorman players: his kit isn't just m1, it requires the tiniest of buildup and planning and you cant outgun or outbuild your way around him, you need to outmacro him
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>>574166192
>use your skulls to farm/fuck up people's focus
>2 to force enemies to either make a bad or odd movement decision to dodge it or get trapped. alternatively lock down fleeing targets obviously
>build antiheal or slow, debuff debuff debuff
>ult to, once again, fuck up people's focus or make teamfights chaotic, also use it to split push a lane if a brool is happening elsewhere
>rape objectives, always
>remember you're built like a paper bag so your role in teamfights is dividing attention away from carries and punish greedy players
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WHERE'S THE FUCKING PATCH YOSHI
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>>574168391
>see skulls and immediately and reflexively light melee them away
>double jump her 2. if you see her casting animation for it but it's nowhere in sight she placed it behind you
>this advice applies to every single hero in the game
>sneak away for 5 seconds and melee her tombstone
>this advice applies to every single hero in the game
>copium
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Hi, anons!
It's been like 1 months since I last played Deadlock, how has the game changed?
Last thing I remember was the change to the urn.
Anything new about the next big update?
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>>574167896
I wanna spread her cheeks and schlop her bootyhole like a thirsty dog...
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>>574168936
>Anything new about the next big update?
2 more months
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>>574168473
abrams +1000hp per boon
celeste ult now duplicates itself with each bounce (each duplicated orb can further duplicate themselves)
celeste barrier now curses for 10 seconds when in line of sight for more than a frame
victor ult cooldown now automatically refreshes if an enemy was killed by the ult explosion/stun
shiv knife -0.001 scaling
warden's gun replaced with a cosmetic supersoaker
paradox ult no longer deals damage
kelvin nade +1 additional charge, ice beam now builds up to -200% damage reduction
added all 5 pieces of exodia into wraith's deck and every other card replaced with pot of greeds
pocket ult -0.5 sec duration
seven ult now also has mirage teleport for free
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>>574166581
>earning how to ACTUALLY play the hero beyond initial mechanics without being a detriment to the team and yourself requires either smurfs or a casual queue, one is bannable and the other one doesn't exist.
>cannot infer how to play a hero
Sounds like you got to a rank where you can only perform if you play the most meta builds, or you are a one tricker. Both of those things are entirely your fault, and can't be blamed on the matchmaking.
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>>574169046
No S+++ilver nerfs?
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>>574169046
fake. didnt reduce the gun growth of a random character by 5%
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>>574168936
>Previous urn is now new koth objective that spawns super creeps
>Urn is back to old urn where you run it across the map but you're no longer silenced or revealed (but you cannot drop it)
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>>574169018
Fuuuuuu, I was hoping for the update to be on August, that's when I have a lot of free time. In contrast with September, which is quite the fucking hell for me.
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>>574168757
>use her gun
>forced loss of stamina
>graves excels because of her gun tether
>position it in an inconvenient spot
>graves + skulls + tomb corpses makes this easier and more overwhelming
>you do not play the game
Anyways...
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>>574169335
No one actually knows when the next update is. It COULD be August, you never know
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>>574169238
Kinda glad running the urn is back.
>New Koth objective
So it is like the change they did to the urn?
Because I remember I did not like it due to how bad it felt to contest the urn with a hero with no area skills, it all became area slop.
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>>574167772
This game is legit like 50% hero shooter immigrants so they dump on the autoaim character while ignoring the fact that like half of this game's cast barely has to aim ever. Lash is le epic reddit man wholesome chungus everyone loves this nigga but Graves is literally hitler no skill no aim noob character. Go figure.
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>>574169407
Let's pray for an August release, anon.
And now Yoshi releases the update tomorrow.
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>stealth hacking on an aim-heavy character who isnt vindicta
>turn on aimbot randomly to avoid detection
>esp gives a massive advantage
>75% winrate on 2 accounts both eternus
>throw random games here and there going 0/15 to even it out
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>>574169521
yeah it's a koth objective that gives souls + super creeps. if it times out it drops the souls as contestable orbs. Shows up randomly in a sidelane
You get like 35% all res though if you're behind so it's kinda a comeback mechanic. Cap time is also lower if you're behind
Shows up in a random sidelane. Visable 60 seconds prior. Announced 20 seconds prior.
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This guy literally started playing the game 3 months ago and is now E6 playing on Night shift. What's your excuse?
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>>574169769
It also gives super creeps?
Thats kinda cool ngl.
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>>574169871
yeah juiced creeps that don't give souls on kill so they don't even get anything for defending. If REM pops a helper or two on them they can probably do walkers solo. very strong
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>>574169860
I'm a chill guy and I like to play Deadlock while masturbating to Paige futanari hentai.
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>>574169860
Im bad at video games that arent numbers/spreadsheet simulators
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>>574170038
>numbers/spreadsheet simulators
I had a friend that played one of those, it was about ships.
Big respect for understanding how to play that kind of game, because my brain can't go that far, kek.
Same with games made by Paradox.
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Delete Ice Beam
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>>574169860
im not trans
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>>574170386
HAHA ICE BEAM!
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>>574170363
despite being called "Grand Strategy", most Paradox games are not very strategic
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>>574170476
mobas are far more strategic than paradox single player games which are basically sandbox games due to how unpunishing they are
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>>574170476
Rly? I don't know much about the genre, so I can't say. I only tried playing Vicky 2 like, 10 or so years ago, and I was so confused that I got Pradoxphobia for the rest of my life.
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New urn quotes are decent but why did they make rem scream nigger for 5 minutes after killing infernus/wraith?
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>>574170676
yeah it's just painting the map and creating the roman empire
>>574170759
I've played all but HoI but they're really not that hard. If you've any interest in any of the time periods I'd recommend it if you can get a good price. Careful with DLC jewery though, CreamAPI probably still works to bypass DLC.
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>>574170841
Because he's based and it's a power word against shitter meta heroes?
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>>574170841
crazy thing is he doesn't say it to Calico
Are they planning to make Calico white?
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>>574169860
I was not a professional overwatch and valorant player like him
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>>574169860
I have a job.
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>>574169860
>19k dmg 3/4 silver
uhhhh
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>>574169860
guess he needs to keep grinding
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sex with the MLC and poppers pupils mascots
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>>574171782
>MLC
but that mascot has tranny pants
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rem on that fent fr
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>they aren't first picking S+++ilver
Are they stupid?
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why's there only 2 NA teams today
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>>574172603
everyone quit.
everyone including the pros....
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>>574172603
The deadlock pro scene is a literal joke
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I hate paradox
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I hate parries
Remove parries
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>>574172603
Deadlock is all slavs now
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>>574172727
pomni rape
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>>574172727
>NA scene dead already before beta
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>>574172603
the challenger team just had roster issues
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>>574172603
people got tired, come back next year
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yamato grapple is the most bullshit ability in any moba/hero shooter in existence
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after having 3 losses in a row with rem i decided it was enuff and played graves
she might have the best lane in the game rn lol how do people die so much with her early on
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I love paradox
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There should be fall damage in this game based on how long you've been airborne.
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>>574174221
too based to be a thing
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>>574173975
well in non-bot games people will just shoot you from beyond her range
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>>574174221
cringe but redpilled
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>>574174221
we dont need weird shit like this, just fix the movement bugs
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>>574174931
why are you so concerned with movement bugs that nobody even uses in your rank
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>>574174931
What do you think is bugged
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>movement trannies come out of the woodwork when someone says "bugs"
lmao
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>>574175173
why not answer the question, why does it matter if nobody even uses it in your rank (arcanist 4)
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>>574174328
im ascendant 3
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>>574175173
My bad, I'm new here from Reddit so replying is a bit weird. Meant for >>574175000
>>574175070
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why not answer a disingenuous question asked in bad faith? because you are a transvestite and i dont associate with you
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>>574175431
My bad, I'm new here from Reddit so replying is still hard for me. Meant for >>574175282
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>>574175431
whats bad faith about it are you insecure about being low elo
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Movement trannyism will kill this game, no one wants to learn how to abuse a bunch of bugs to play the game efficiently.
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>>574174931
truke
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damn really glad they nerfed graves while pocket can do this
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>>574176040
pocket is a trans so he will never be nerfed chuddy
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Add at least four more melee items
Buff current melee items
Nerf parries to not stun on light melee parries, stun duration on heavy melees is halved
Rebuttal moved to 1600, brings parries up to current baseline
New parry item at 3200, works like current rebuttal
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>lane partner playing brawl character buys melee lifesteal instead of regen when they're at 30% health
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>>574176040
anon did you forget to upload an image
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all in a hard day's work playing an honest m1
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>50 minute night shift game
Holy
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>>574176581
dumb retard
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>>574176621
Silver's impact must've been insanely high
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>pro game held hostage to 50 minutes when it should have ended in 30 thanks to doorman and sneedbop
wow just like my pubs
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>>574176746
>gets caught by bebop hook
>insta pops ult and kills 2
can they just rework this bitch already
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>>574176763
the bebop was hooking like a GAWD doe
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>>574176746
Looks like what happens when you play silver against seekers
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>>574176763
More like
>Pro game reached 50 minutes because one team couldn't end and was getting outscaled until Lelfaa decided to single handledly ruin the game
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>>574173039
I used to hate double bomb paradox
now I love double bomb paradox
I love paradox
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anyone else play deadlock for so long you get welts on your buttocks an thighs from being still all day?
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>>574177061
Good image and post
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APOLLO? Holy fug I'm a Poppers Pupils fan now
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>>574164264
>make premades play with premades
>make the avoided hero feature work

I just saved deadlock
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Do you think people are ever going to stop fighting over random shit when there's nothing on the map? I'm legitimately so sick of having two of my teammates die right before rift is about to spawn because they were on some bullshit jungle skirmish over nothing. Stop fighting, there's nothing to be gained, just farm you fucking retards
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>>574167772
People only like Engie in TF2 because he's not a strong character. If he was 'meta' and at a power level on par with soldier or demoman then the game would be far worse off and everybody would have been screaming for nerfs. Graves is similar. Her character design doesn't allow for enough skill expression unless she's bad and she immediately feels overly oppressive and awful to play against if she's good because she's just a giant stat check and player skill is instantly devalued when she's onscreen.
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>>574178981
Engie provides help for his team and is very much meta depending on the map. If you don't like Engie you can play a map he's trash on.
Deadlock has one map.
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Reminder that Silver needs a full on rework and not just a reversal of nerfs.
Anyone saying otherwise is a retarded inbred nigger
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>>574179220
>Why yes, I'm arcanist 2, how could you tell?
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>>574179220
no she's fine being bottom tier, someone has to be, and its best that its the furniggers
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>>574179220
She needs to have all her nerfs reverted and then a rework
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>>574178981
>>574167772
I'm phantom (high-pisslow) and i genuinely cannot fathom people complaining about Graves whatsoever. Like i don't understand what happens in your lower rank games. She's so bad. Half her kit can be countered by shooting and you gain gold for it. Her lane is horrible. She's made of sugar and has no mobility skills while also having a shit range gun that legitimately deals no damage. I can't even remember the last time i saw a graves in one of my games because nobody dares pick her. Literally just kill her, the character is a walking bag of gold for the enemy team, what are you guys doing down there
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>>574179220
This, her character design doesn't allow for enough skill expression unless she's bad and she immediately feels overly oppressive and awful to play against if she's good because she's just a giant stat check and player skill is instantly devalued when she's onscreen
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>>574179286
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mlc throwing to win that polymarket money
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popper is being a fucking menace holy shit
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Did you guys see the Counter Strike premiere tie thing? Basically the official CS account tweeted a tiebreaker suggestion for their premier matchmaking mode, asking the community if they felt it was a good idea, and everyone seems to be super shocked and surprised that they would just point blank ask it, but to me it feels like obvious influence from the Deadlock development.
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>>574179684
it was bait they did it last world cup
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>>574169860
>3 months ago
Hes been playing since 2024 kek.
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>>574179440
I didn't mean to imply she's good at the moment. I'm talking about her design in general being ass. My post was a little scatterbrained since I was distracted while typing it.
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>>574179931
i checked and he played like 20 games in 2024 and then stopped until january this year
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>>574180203
nvm 40something games i thought the tracklock match history pages had much fewer games on them
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set citadel_region_override to "in" region :)
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>>574179939
what do you mean by design, if you mean abiltiies she's fine: dive werewolf character with shotgun, the problem is valve cant balance dive characters: drifter, shiv and her are either broken or fucking useless, no in between, because movement costing no stamina breaks their entire design unless you over-buff them so they do retarded damage and win 4/5 encounters

if you mean visual design again shes fine, furnigger but fine, this thing and wraith are much greater visual eyesores than anything else in this game
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ITANI LO SAHN
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>doing mid because doorman door is on CD
that's cool
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>>574179939
I really think that the more they lean into the summoner archetype, the better her design will feel. Keep the gun bad, its fine for her to have autoaim if the gun is low range and bad. To me she should fulfill the "squishy necromancer who hides under a horde of summons" archetype. The problem is that every single time her wall, skulls and/or zombies is ever good, they nerf the shit out of them, forcing her to build gun which is both terrible against good players, and makes bad players angry. Its very lose-lose.
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>>574180607
The problem is that her summons are autopilot too. If they're good then they practically play the game for her. She needs to have more control over them so there can actually be any difference between Graves players. She needs to not be a girlfriend character.
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>>574169747
same but only in street brawl to see how much of the problem is my aim versus the character just being shit
there is no anticheat for this game its hilarious, once you start you notice 2/5 people are also doing it which has unironically destroyed my interest in this game as anything remotely competitive, nothing stops you from basic stealth ESP at the very least and in a moba its a massive advantage
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>tankbuster le bad even tho apollo just raped melee creeps with it
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Silver status?
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>>574181948
Right on time to be raped on a wednesday
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>>574181948
>radiant regen
Baaaaaased
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>>574181948
>1-9
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>i wish curse haze didn't exist anymore
>the monkeys paw curls
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>>574169860
OH NONO NO HAHAHA
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>>574133218
>Nta but I didn’t not know she builds bloodlust faster at low hp, seems like resistmaxing and blood tribute will be ruining my next game
Late but just a heads up, the nigger you're replying to is mechanically wrong (as silver upplayers usually are)
She doesn't build bloodlust faster at low HP, she gets a burst of bloodlust when she falls below a HP threshold on a hidden cooldown
Just be aware
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>>574182625
He's E6 after playing for 3 months
(You) are still stuck in Archon.
Thoughts?
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>>574183701
I'm E2 and he has played for years
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>>574183735
"He has played for years" = "He played like literally 40 games in 2024 when the NDA was lifted and then stopped playing until a few months ago"
>I'm [Shitlow]
LOL
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>>574183832
I accept your concession
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personally i played 3 games of league of legends in 2013 and decided it wasnt for me and didn't play it again
if i played again today, would you say i've played for 13 years?
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>Gun character does gun too good
>Gets nerfed for doing gun too good
>Gun character becomes a spirit character
>Gets ner-
Yknow maybe we should just let gun characters be gun characters
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>>574163998
She completely melts people's minds and has done since her release
I still remember when she came out, her pro record was like 3-11 or something, and teams would still rather first ban her than Celeste (then lose to Celeste instead lmao)
How the FUCK does she do it? Does she just have some kind of aura that inflicts mental damage on proniggers?
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>>574183832
He has like 700 games in 2024-2025 lmao, he wasn't using that account
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you actually can't deal damage as silver. at all. at first I thought it was a bug, but at this point its clearly intentional. why does yoshi hate silver so much? she's so weak but keeps getting nerfed? what? how do people think she's strong? next you'll tell me victor needed the nerfs lol ooookay seekertards......
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>>574183978
this happens with every character on every built be it spirit gun tank support mixed whatever
it's like the game balance is a meme or something
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>>574184096
Yeah and my girlfriend goes to a different school
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silver won
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>>574184503
my heart
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I came mansperm from my manpenis
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I want Silver to have her bounty ability added in
Feel like her bounty hunter identity is pretty sparse
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eating out silver's hairy muffpussy to in exchange for paying for her rent
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I genuinely think only the art team gives a fuck about this game anymore. post 6 new heroes and onwards things have just been getting shittier and shittier with no effort but the bare minimum to fix it
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I love pocket affliction ! yessss!!!!!!!
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>>574185976
bro presses the "i win the game button" and instantly wins the game
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>>574185819
Doesn't help that they scrapped the 4 lane map and had to essentially start from scratch
Maybe they'll touch it up some more once they stop fucking around with new objectives every patch and settle on something
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>>574186153
Eidobros...
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>login
>first game we lose in 20 minutes without taking a single walker
>second game is the same but we make it past 30 minutes
>enemy has a guy with double the souls of the entire lobby
seriously what went wrong with the rift patch
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>>574187169
SIX SEVEN
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Can't believe we're 6 months from last patch. I genuinely thought it would come june at the latest. I'm so sorry.
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I was the key player in all of these Seven matches, yoshi genuinely deserves to be tortured to death for making me play with these teams
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>>574187817
carries have a better chance of getting key player because they usually just farm for half the match
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>>574183832
Stat sites are missing hundreds of games from back then. He's also terrible at the game and will be kicked from mlc and forgotten about in a few weeks.
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>>574186891
the game is only in alpha and already half the playerbase is smurfs scared to lose there internet points by playing against players in their rank
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>rend still fucking kills you in shot
awesome
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>>574187817
>playing ranked during an alpha
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>>574187817
Uhh the only common factor is you bro the game's dogshit matchmaking ensuring compounding loss streaks has nothing to do with it
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please yoshi add more stuns please!! im not getting stunned enough!!!
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>>574184827
>Abrams got to hit this on the daily
by the patron... no wonder he's a tired old man now
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>>574164264
it has always been just muh teammates. its so tiresome
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can we please nerf melee already holy fuck why is it so strong
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>>574190150
>it has always been just muh teammates
No, there are two main issues.
The game assigns an average rank to a team rather than matching people within a rank or within distance of a rank, and so you'll frequently get teams where one is all around the same average skill level and the other has one or two people way below it and one or two way above to compensate, with either the lower skill people dragging their team down by feeding or the higher skill people stomping.
The second is team composition, the game makes an attempt at giving you frontliners, carries, and supports but only an attempt and what the game defines as a frontliner/carry/support isn't accurate to how they're actually played, or has drifted with patches. Drifter for instance is categorised as a frontliner and the game will expect him to play the same role as a Billy or Abrams on the opposite team.
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>>574185798
Based on all counts
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>>574164264
this this THIS. no you didn't get matched soloq with a 6 stack that literally does not happen, you just lost one game get over it. swear to god people cry so much about matchmaking in a free game thats in alpha.
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/ss/ilver
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>>574174221
This would make Knockdown slightly better, but it's still worthless so long as Dispel Magic and Counterspell exist.
Also dangerously based desu, fuck movement trannies.
>>574174931
They're never gonna do that since the 'pros' and ecelebs would cry endlessly that they have to actually commit to something instead of just IAD + edgeboosting + corner boosting away from anything slightly dangerous.
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>>574190465
Have you tried parrying?
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>>574175820
So true. Too bad trannies are the loudest whiners and will get you banned from the forums if you criticize them, and you can't make fun of them on streams or you get banned there too.
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>>574167772
Regardless of her power level, she's just fucking annoying to play against and takes 0 skill for maximum rewards.
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>>574191697
>just stand completely still mid teamfight to counter the one guy who does 1.4k damage per punch!
and even then if you somehow survive that the parry stun is not even enough to kill him. melee is too strong
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>>574181948
This looks like a pub match.
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mcginnis is finally playable
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>>574189978
this but unironically. movement slop has ruined this game
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New player here, why does Haze buy curse? I thought no gun hero wanted the damage penalty
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>chases down movementslop heroes with one button press
problem, officer?
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>>574192697
Haze's ult is strong enough that even a penalty like that won't stop you from obliterating people
You're useless outside of being an ult bot at that point but it's okay because you were probably just gonna sneak around and pick unfair fights anyway
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>hooks troonvement trannies out of the air
one, nothing wrong with me
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>>574192810
the only people whining about her 2 are movement trannies anyway. its really not that bad but these fags are so used to getting away for free they hate when their source engine abuse doesn't work anymore
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>all this crying about people being better than you at the game
youre not gonna see "troonment" at seeker. it doesnt affect you in any way. you can stop crying
>>574192810
yamato currently has the strongest movement tech in the game. i thought you disliked troonment.
>>574192393
what is this meme that high level deadlock doesnt have stomps? they literally know how to capitalize on a lead the best. theyre more snowbally than pubs if anything
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I'm tired of meta chasing
whats a rank up character that will never get nerfed?
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>>574193149
why are you too lazy to learn?
It's really not hard at all
even the "hard stuff" is extremely lenient compared to real games like team fortress or smash brothers
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judging by the amount of seethe about movement in this gennie the average rank really must be ritualist or something. actually unreal how challenge averse these people are. its almost like people crying about dark souls being too hard and needing it to be accessible
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m1 is the only way to play that requires any kind of skill. you need to be able to aim, have positioning, and pick your targets/fights. with spirit heroes you need none of that, just mash buttons and do 2k instant damage in an aoe. I see all this bitching about m1 even though spirit has it way better, the game has literally ALWAYS been in a spirit meta ffs. I just don't get it can a spirit downplayer explain this to me?
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>>574194282
this game doesn't even have wavedashing
you don't need frame perfect inputs
what are they even crying about?
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>>574194282
movement tech is very rare even up to low eternus so it makes little sense how much it gets complained about
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>today im gonna seethe about players that i would never get to go against doing 0.5s time saves with subtly adjusted wall jumps in high level play
>>574194608
>what are they even crying about
about somebody being better than them. it could be just about anything but this time theyre really fixated on movement.
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>movement trannies in full meltdown
kino
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>>574192810
Can't wait for the crying when her grapple gets raped to death in a patch or two, this bitch is legitimately the most braindead hero in the game.
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game is unplayable due to smurfs
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>>574195175
If this is a meltdown then you need to read your own posts out loud when you're seething about movement kek
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>>574195175
Meant for >>574194282
>>574194890
>>574195025
>>574194608
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Valve should add a horse to deadlock.
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>>574194059
literally seven
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>>574195175
it doesnt matter what we based antimovement chuds say. the movement trannies won because the developers are on their side and the game will continue to have movement. i will be stuck in oracle because i refuse to abuse bugs
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I am going to celebrate when Icefrog finally dies. That man has ruined every Valve product he's touched and his legacy will be one no one looks on with pride.
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>>574195532
He's been nerfed several times recently
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>>574195553
movement is not why youre stuck in guplow unc
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>>574195553
awww don't feel bad oracle is a good rank <3
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Holliday is hard
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>>574192443
furfags are mentally ill, there is already a fix for mcnigger for white aryans
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just buy slowing hex bro
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>>574197417
Try spamming her in street brawl, she's a lot easier once you have a feel for barrel arcs and how to headshot someone in mid air
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>>574162684
Born to ban characters that I hate playing against
Forced to ban characters that I know my teammates will feed in lane
Bans don't matter anyway
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>>574194059
Seven, Haze, Wraith, Silver
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>>574176040
me too, glad well designed characters dominate shit ones
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>>574195964
His winrate is literally unwavering
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>>574189704
>"Its your fault the Yamato on your team went 1-15 and insists on trying to 1v5 the team repeatedly*
Youre right. My bad, bro.
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>>574197678
>>574192443
>their gaze averts from the aphrodite shine of mcgoddess
you are boys playing a character meant for men
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>>574198631
unless you tried to igl every member of your team simultaneously yes its your fault
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>>574198631
Umm sorry bro you need to take some personal responsibility. There are 6 people to a team and you have to manage all of them. That's what everyone else does, you only have yourself to blame if you're losing.
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>>574198667
67 of Truth
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cant wait til they add emotes so i can dance on top of people
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How do I learn to play Doorman but not in a annoying YouTube clipfarming faggot way
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>>574198780
Youre right. I should take personal responsibility for people that play this game like CoD and die over and over.
I will take this into consideration.
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I went 55-2 against an aimbotting infernus and vindicta. What's your excuse, phantomkun?
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>>574199058
Never going to happen.
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>>574198667
she's an ugly fat femnist icon: total wokeslop, stop worshiping pussy faggot
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>>574199151
game 1 from dlns NA had a super high damage doorman spirt nuker (i forgot who played him) that should be a vod you watch if you actually want to learn
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>>574199151
Throw bells at people until they die
use doors to escape bad situations
ult people when it's useful (99% of doormen fail this step and grief their team)
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>>574199151
Throw bell, click on bell. Throw bell so that the enemy collides with it before you click on it so it does more damage.
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>>574199058
>curse + ult someone as haze
>fortnite dance on their corpse when they die
>smokebomb and walk away
i can see it happen
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>>574199151
pick a real character that does 3x the damage with half the skill and a quarter of the setup, biggest throw pick in the game minus sinclair
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THERE HAVE BEEN 2 WEEKS AND 1 DAY SINCE YOSHI SAID THERE WILL BE AN UPDATE 2 WEEKS AGO

WHERE IS MY UPDATE
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>>574199839
A few means three or more, there's one left, and then another 1-2 months before the actual meaningful update.
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>>574198908
>There are 6 people to a team and you have to manage all of them.
some people unironically believe this
like they cannot fathom taking responsibility after playing like utter dogshit and need a dedicated babysitter, lest they escape their daycare lane and feed the enemy Drifter a ton of stacks
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>>574199534
If I'm gonna play one of those heroes they better be doing three billion damage for free
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>>574200038
yeah she does, her name is haze, devs listened to streamer suggestions and now she can solo carry lost games 20/0 (just happened live on twitch.tv literally right now on biggest streamer channel)
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>>574164264
I think a lot of it is also just the nature of the genre. People will naturally cope for themselves when they get a bad lane MU or are playing a hero they're inexperienced with but that one match is the totality of their teammates' skill and a certain sign of the matchmaker's failure. I've always found people bitch about MM a lot less in a game like CS, not to say they don't at all before someone tries to nitpick, and I think that's because the game is just fundamentals. I don't think it gives you better teammates on average than other genres but that there's far less that can just result in a random getting fucked without him really doing anything horribly wrong for the rank he's at.
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>>574192697
Because if you're popping off then eventually they buy metal skin or some characters are just so survivable regardless that you need curse to burst them down and stop them from just pressing a button to shut down your attempt to pick them while their team turns around to gangbang you.
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How is Paradox's E+ winrate so low?
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>>574200540
e6 players know not to stand in the aoe bomb
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>>574200830
bomb is literally her least useful ability though?
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>>574200918
>wall: oh wow you can stall the enemy m1 for 5 seconds while doing 0 damage to them aka a 3200 item
>carbine: shitty soft cc compared to other supports like ivy who can just rape people
>ult: bebop hook on a 100+ cd that's harder to aim kek
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>>574201072
oh yeah forgot another note about the ult - it will KILL YOU half the time becase you're in the middle of the enemy team now
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>>574200540
check the statlocker tab called "hero analysis" or whatever it was called. pdox has a huge variance in wr% depending on matches played. people that onetrick her fare way better than average on her than some other heros' onetricks
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>>574201150
>>574201072
seekerALLAH
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>get a random feeling to try out vind
>log into deadlock with the sole purpose to play vind
>3 second queue
>filled onto a character I don't give a shit about playing
>disconnect
very good system Yoshi!
you WILL retain players after it hits live with this dogshit system!
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making echo shard haze able to kill you instantly AND her ult kill you instantly is good game design thank you yoshi
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just realized all these retards are talking about silver being op but you can literally counter her ult with extra stamina
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>engage on someone from zip
>my teammate just goes back and lets me die 2v1
graves players need to be shot
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>retarded lane partner just died forcing a bad fight with no regen items
>comes back full throttle and goes back in 1v2 while I have 2 waves pushing tower and I'm at 30% hp
>dies and starts blaming me in chat
infernus players need to be shot
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>>574202094
I used to do this when I was new
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>>574201880
the humble slowing bullets:
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>2 dead
>get walker mid
>go mid
>get boss to 30%
>no one on my team comes
>lose
something needs to be done community wide to get people to play this objective i cant dude put it into the wide fucking open or something
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>>574202659
If no more than one teammate will help you kill mid then just fucking leave
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>>574202659
lowkey mid boss is a useless objective
just take their walkers and jungle, or hunt them down to extend the period of advantage
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>>574169860
I don't have any friends that play this game so we can boost each other
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>>574202804
i wanted to try to solo it with mirage guess you need spirit lifesteal
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>>574199293
>jealous graveschuddy clitty leaking over affording industrial, inventive, risk-taking muscleDEITY loins the respect they deserve
Standards are non-binary. McGinnis is my wife. This is why you are an oraclesissy. Cope.
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>lose like 14 games yesterday
>chain queue all day, lose 1 full rank
>win first game today
>yeah thats enough
explain this phenomenon
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>>574165518
I MAIN SILVER. YOU NOT SAY SILVER WEAK.
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>>574203391
sir that is a husband
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>>574165518
>mystic burst
unironically delete this item
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>>574203943
cause it's... bad?
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i dont understand deadlock movement and i dont understand melee movement either
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>>574204242
>i dont understand deadlock movement
shift
jump
jump when near wall
hold ctrl while mantling for a free slide boost
>melee
hold q
turn if you're parry baiting
hold q
fleetfoot to bait a parry
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaow
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>>574204370
melee as in smash
also no one does dash jumps its all some IAD bullshït into 50 bunny jumps like a speed demon
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Well?
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>>574204452
>also no one does dash jumps
I do, 75% of my mains use arcane surge.
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>>574204242
https://www.youtube.com/@leifdeadlock

>>574204452
ssbm is mostly just wavelanding
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>>574204586
>ssbm is mostly just wavelanding
have you watched a good luigi player? that thing isnt even the same game anymore i doubt its what sakurai intended for the game to be
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>>574204586
i can't listen to monotone 19 year old american guys doing tutorials
see a speech coach
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>>574204758
My aren't you sensitive?
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>>574203621
Your homosexuality is your own. Do not project it.
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Silver
>short dash closer, that shoves an enemy, and yourself farther away???
Yamato
>THREE PHANTOM STRIKES
Silver
>Slowing hex, but a skillshot with a tiny hitbox
Yamato
>One of the highest scaling heals in the game on an easy to land gigantic arc
Silver
>Ultimate that requires you to charge it up first, and automatically casts if you deal too much damage
>replaces all your abilities with ones that only work at literal kissing distance, oh and your hitbox is now triple the size
Yamato
>Pop it anytime you want, get a free dispel and invulnerability while it's casting
>all your abilities are refreshed, now cast instantly, you have 60% both damage resists, SIX PHANTOM STRIKES, and get heals on kill, and UNSTOPPABLE
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>>574204586
This guy goes into too much detail and tangents that are of no use to someone who isn't aiming to be a top 1% player, terrible pedagogic skills and a probable autism prognosis. Thankfully will fade into irrelevancy once the game releases like 90% of the current ecelebs grifting for AdSense revenue.
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>>574205787
>short dash closer, that shoves an enemy, and yourself farther away???
No no no, you don't understand, you have to FLICK the camera 180 degrees and push them closer to your team and yourself further away! It's HIGH SKILL CEILING move

What's the point of that in 1v1? Who knows, lmao
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>>574206165
how does that scale up to THREE PHANTOM STRIKES WITH MORE RANGE
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>>574206256
Shut up, skillet
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>>574205787
>Yamato
>deals zero damage if you walk behind a wall or counterspell
>ceases to exist if you Focus Lens her
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>queue Ivy (prio), Doorman, Shiv as secondaries
>5 minute queue
at least it works I guess
no idea why ivy is so popular all of a sudden
had a game where literally 4 people on my team wanted to play Ivy
like why does it even put 3 filled players on the same team
you cannot think that that's fair MM
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>watch renon "solo q" stream
>he's literally duoing
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>>574207523
that's the joke
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>play m1 celeste
>total dogshit, low damage, low impact
>play tank celeste
>become unkillable at 25k souls, do infinity damage
Lightbringer faggots could never
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>>574179468
I think she could be corrected a fair bit just by nerfing her ults hitboxes so that her abilities could be realistically dodged.
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>>574179525
SOURCE
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yawn the silver downplayers are here
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Unlucky, lost 4 games again, but were all winable except 1
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I'm interested in trying the game mostly because of Vindicta. Is she a good character for beginners? I played League in the past, dunno if that counts for experience in Deadlock.
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>>574209517
On one hand she's bad for beginners because she's squishy and requires good aim, on the other hand she's good for beginners because the noobs you'll play against are fairly unlikely to buy the items that counter her.



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