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>Ralsei in chapter 7 when we are trying figure out the final puzzle to save the light and darkworld from the roaring (we are trying to ram the square peg into the round hole)
>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER>THAN HE WHO DENIES>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?">YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?">"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?">ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
I LOVE MY BOYFRIEND
Mmmm agua gunny
>>574211472>>574211547They do go to church on Sundays but the Festival was also happening on a Sunday.
>>574211575I'm ramming into his hole if you catch my drift
ok, anons. you know the drill. behave and they wont take your stimmies away again.
Pussi azul
>>574211738I NEED STIMMIES NOW
>>574211738i'm gonna go scrounge up some sleepstimmies
>Pink is the secret 8th flower>Frisk is the secret 8th human>Bludinn is the secret 8th Flying AceYou'd best start believing in chapter 8...
Gotta win!
So aside from le horns, why can't the Knight be Papyrus? It makes a ton of sense why the Knight would be him with the ribcage, the body shape, the fact that Papyrus in UT wanted to be part of the royal guard which are knights, Papyrus being a depressed shut in who was absent during chapter 5 where the knight abducts Asgore and such.
>>574211850RESET.
>>574211861because the knight is somewhat intelligent
Don't respond to stupid ass posts! Post aqua instead!
>>574211861too busy being the forgotten man
>>574211861what the hell, walt disney? aren't you supposed to be dead?
>>574211861Why would it be papyrus? Can you identify any textual, contextual or thematic evidence in Deltarune that should make me believe that it is?
SIX HOURS THIRTYTHE WAKING MANALREADY STROKING SHIT WITHOUT A PLAN
>>574211861Papyrus is a barely functional retard and the Knight's magic makes no sense for Papyrus.
>It's good to see you again.
>>574211861The Knight has not used the Blue SOUL mode yet, and it hasn't used bone attacks. It has primarily only ever used bladed weaponry. Furthermore, the Knight has existed since before December disappeared, which was a long time ago, meanwhile Sans and Papyrus have only moved to Hometown recently.
>>574212003Can't be, gaster remarks that it's an interesting coincidence when you put his name in the creator slot
>>574212028I got better
i wish i could make deltarune type music
Why are Aqua posters so funny?
>>574212142It's not that tricky. Just learn to use a tracker and melody note generators
The game raking place over a week is weird. 10 years of waiting for it to be just a week. So much is happening.Kinda reminds me of Ultimate Spider-Man. The run lasted of over 10 years, but in-universe it was 1 year.
>>574212142Um, actually /v/ said that Fox just stole all the music so you should do that too. It's easy bro
>>574212258This but unironically.
Why is Winglade so similar to the logo of Queensrÿche? Is Toby based?
I don't want to draw anymore
>>574212258>>574212291specifically music from a very obscure spin-off from an otherwise popular series
>>574211738*chomps your leg*
>>574212332Sucks to be you
>>574211502Hooman!
Ok, but isn’t it weird that Dreemurr’s adopted a human child on a fully monster city pnly to let him be neglected?
Anyone else notice the holidays and dreemurrs don't have bidets? They all have shitty assess
>>574212258This. Just play Mother 3 and Illusion of Gaia a few times and the inspiration will simply overcome you. You’ll be pumping out memorable musical masterpieces before you know it!
>>574212227It has to take place over a week because of all the biblical inspiration
>>574212227Aren't most comic book things like 8 years in real time but a few months in-universe?
>>574212332*bites ur neck to suck out the drawing powers but u bleed out and I throw up cuz blood is gross*
>>574211861Because it would be immensely retarded if Papyrus was the knight. He might as well be Snail Guy.
>>574212448asgore and toriel are terrible parents, if you didnt notice already in UT
>>574212530WORMWOODWORMWOODWORMWOOD
toriel found the aqua sketchbook...
>>574212448This happens in Undertale too. WOw
>>574212448We don't know what powers the DR monsters have in the light world aside from Susie and Undyne being really strong.
>>574212487almost all americans don't have bidets
Why does that one vessel head have two green pixels on its face? Were the vessels originally going to be green and gray and Toby just fucked up with the paint bucket tool? Noelle's dark world sprite has similar miscolored pixels so that would make sense.
>>574212487they skid on the grass like actual animals
>>574212697I think it's meant to be a face scar
>>574212697Green... in the middle of its cheek... inbetween..............
turn around kid
when will kris let us ask someone about that freaky parrot who nobody else acknowledges
>>574212825>*unzips pants*
>>574212697jesus fuck i'm a retard, it's been since the release of chapter 1 and i've only now just noticed that
>>574212743Would that mean vessels have green blood?
>>574212879Did you know Toriel has red eyes?
Kris isn't thin and small because they have a poor appetite and sometimes refuse to eath but because Toriel makes them eat METH instead of food
>>574212670I know it's fucking gross. And they get mad when you point it out. Aqua doesn't poop though so her asshole is sparkling clean and chewable
Could peak Rocky Balboa defeat the Knight do you think
>>574212945kris has binge eating disorder that got worse with the soul
>>574212997Humans are naturally stronger than monsters. I could fuck the night up if I wanted to
>>574212997i dont know does the knight get prep time?
>>574212932that one i surprisingly did know before chapter 1, but it still took me a while after undertale released
>>574212997Peak Balboa? I think so. Physical strength aside he has a metric shit ton of DETERMINATION, his human soul would be off the charts
>>574212975Europeans shoot ice cold toilet water up their buttholes from youth as gay sissy training so they can better please American men in adulthoodSaid Pink (body)
i love buckethead <3
>>574213061They both have training montage time if they so choose to use it
>>574212932>Flowery also has colored eyes>cut appears in the same part of his faceTruly a fitting replacement for Asgore's wife
>>574212997Dess would be raped and left for dead in the lake for the 2nd time
>>574213140you can get warm water retard, also don't you wash your ass in the shower?
>>574213230NEVER WASH
>>574213230>douches his own asshole in the shower as a manAre you a homosexual?
>>574213140The fact americans not only don't use bidets but are only aware of the integrated kind is fascinating
>be Noelle>Cuck Kris and dump him whenever Susie is around>Cuck Susie and forget about her whenever (YOU) are around>Cuck Catti and make fun of her for not wanting you to hang out with a delinquent >Cuck Berdly and never care enough to visit him in the hospital and immediately forget him to think about the snowgrave spell instead>Cuck (YOU) to have goodbye festival date with Susie before settling down with you>Never acknowledge (YOU) exist>be Chara>Hates humanity, have every reason for it>Made a perfect plan to free the Underground and get revenge on a village>Loyal to her brother Asriel until he betrayed her and got her killed for nothing>Helps (YOU) count how many monsters are left>Speaks to (YOU) explicitly >Breaks the puzzle cutscene from Papyrus to not waste your time >Warns you when you forget a monster before facing Undyne>Never forgets about Asriel and kills him for standing on her way>Kills Sans and Asgore for you>Calls you her partner and tells you that you'll be together foreverYour vessel, anon?
>>574212997I remember some schizo video from however many years ago that said Rocky scales to Rambo because of some bullshit Stallone said and Rambo somehow moved at the speed of sound so Rocky had sonic-speed tooNeedless to say, The Knight is getting plapped
>>574213160https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzxathGSOUw
Good morning. I love you
>>574213321I think it's pretty obvious Rocky lost all pretenses of being a down to earth story about a retarded guy from Philly and became a capeshit comic around the time Ivan Drago showed up.
why do dark worlds give you the ability to go into ball form
Welcome to the underground
>>574213479Because ball as a shape is very strong
>>574213291yes
>>574213385https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUWyVEVgR14
>>574213291I blast my ass with the pulse setting and jerk off while imagining im being prison raped in the showers
Flowery LOST.
I love does
>>574213671
>>574213548Crazy how this random tranny fan art is way better than his in game face sprite
>>574213479Fuck you, stop questioning DessKnight, it’s canon. Dess is very sad and lost her soul or something. That’s why she can transform into a dark frisbee skeleton bird. Obviously.
>>574213321I can't believe some dude powerscaled rocky and rambo
Is this possible?
>>574213747kris susie ralsei and mew mew can all go into ball form
>>574213802>darkworld chernobyl
>>574213738you say this every time
>>574213664...In planet retard.
>>574213479its kinda like when samus does it
>>574213802This is what Gaster was trying to make. He wanted his Tasque Manager GF.
>>574213802wait how the fuck did he got here
>>574213873It would be funny as fuck if that’s treated as an actual transformation not gonna lie I would accept it
Finally a friend gajinka that isn't a fucking black woman
>>574213895>You can't say 2+2=4 multiple times because.... Like.... Uhhh... Well.... it like.... Upsets me or something
Are people debating ball form as an actual serious idea because I genuinely can't fucking tell anymore
How come every big time streamer has dropped the idea of streaming deltarune?
>>574213802it'd be theoretically possible but ralsei would be a lot smaller, so you'd probably have to build tiny controls for him.
Pluey
oh well uh.... tell me this uh.. FloweryDO YOU WANT SOME SLAW
>>574214018It implies lightners can only do it.
>>574213978black is beautiful
what's up, shitasses.
>>574214037It's a 40 hour RPG instead of a little 6 hour thing that comes with insane backseating
>>574213802no, you can't see the light world from the dark world and vice versa. Unless the glass was made of shadow crystal I guess. It also chances the 3d size of the space where the fountain is created.
>>574214097is this real
>>574214068Ralsei can transform. Kris has copycat powers. Susie and shoot an axe bullet. They all get neat powers
Stool Forme Theory
ball theory
>>574213802No, fountains pull darkness from beneath the Earth, you cannot move a fountain.
>>574214162no, this is actually gluten-free.
>>574213990>let me just repeat the same thing over and over and over and over
>>574214118I dunno streamers seem always on point when it comes to the lastest chapter of mascot horror slop
The eggs will be needed to pass the school project
>>574214207DUDE THAT'S THE BATTAT MOTIFF XDDDI LOOOVE IRONY HAHAHA YOU'RE SO SILLY TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY LOOOOL BATTAT MOTIFF
>>574214279those chapters are like 2 hours long and come with multiple built-in audience interaction moments
>>574211846Its going to be chapter 0 though
>>574214207It'd be kind of a banger if it lasted a bit morehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh8eaKSjEYw
>>574214337Cutie Mew Mew Magic has the 2nd best use of the battat motif
>>574214337He's Mr. Toby Raped Me he's Mr. BulkHe's Mr. Autistic he's Mr. Do What I Want
>>574214426is this a "good" route exclusive or did i just miss something?
how are your balls
>>574214037>"every"Vinny and Jackseptictank are not the only streamers anon
>>574214413It's Chapter 8 so it can become Chapter ∞ in the true ending
>>574212697Ykw I don't think I ever noticed that those two pixels were green I always assumed it was part of the hair >>574212743I would agree with this tho>>574212883Yeah why not? Green and inbetween theory going hard
>>574214485It's at the beginning anon. Go to the bakery and talk to the jigsaw guy for an extra fight.
>>574214494drained
>>574214494Well fed.
>>574214337irony about fanbase retardation is good and it's good that the ironic self insert for schizo theorists is a twink that gets his dicehole gaped by big television that toby demands more art of
>>574214485Your save is bricked. Your game is bricked. Your computer is bricked.
>>574211846Of course chapter 8 is going to be real, gaster said so himself that by completing ch4, he commends you for having reached the "half-way mark"and if 4 is the "half" then 8 is the full.play the goddamn game, you tourist.
>>574214485Yes, Nubert won’t fight a piece of shit snowgraver like you.
>>574214509I don't think anyone ever expected Vinny to stream it. Joel on the other hand streamed Ch5 on release and has fully bought into the theorycrafting
Did Toby just decide he didnt want to include a music player in the town after chapter 2 or what, what happened with that.
>>574214037Too big + poor backseating reputation from Undertale + Deltarune often feels like it relies too much on your understanding and engagement with the fandom + Too story heavy and autistic core you have to feel invested in the story to enjoy it
>>574214692he re-added item fusion this chapterwill you never be satisfied
>>574214624sorry, but i like the dino.and i am willing to end the world for her.fuck you, cuck chair enthusiast.
>>574214692dont think about it.
>>574214668Thats because Joel is based and /v/inny is cringe
>>574214692lancer accidently ruined the music players with salsa
>>574214692Just like he decided coding real battles and rematches in the Dojo was too troublesome
is it a good thing that all these items are hoarded in a school closet
You know, what if Susie isn't coping about Kris and Ralsei's duplicitousness and slipping into the fantasy of the dark world as a grandiose statement on escapism and growing up?What if Susie is, in fact, just dumb as bricks?That is also a possbility.
>>574214692He couldn't think of a diegetic reason for why the music dudes would have songs from other dark worlds, so he added a big fuck off piano that no one uses instead.
>>574211502>The horn headband bit shows Kris wanted to be a monster>The mancountry bit shows Kris wanted to be a man>Having Asgore and Asriel around probably made Kris want to be kind, despite their more trickster-y, violent impulses>Ralsei's name is a Dreemurr anagramIs there any particular reason people are resistant to the idea Ralsei is Kris' ideal self from childhood?
>>574214870The story isnt about escapism being bad, its about how its bad to be dumb and trusting
>>574214754(rapes and mentally destroys her girlfriend)(drags her into the lake to commit murder-suicide)I LOVE YOU SUSIE!!!!!!!! I WOULD DO ANYTHING FOR YOU!!!!!!!! EXCEPT ACCEPT YOUR WISHES!!!!!!!!!!
>>574214692The gag of Castle Town is that all your recruited NPCs are wacky dipshits with their own schedules and agendas so it fails to work as an RPG home base>>574214790There was a whole new dojo superboss in chapter 5 though
>>574214621If there's 7 chapters then 3.5 is the halfway mark and Gaster can't just pop up in the middle of chapter 4 to say it's the halfway point. Are you stupid?
>>574211846you fucking idiot, bludinn is the seventh flying ace, there's six of them in mancountry
>>574214575never post this image again
>>574214878It would be a extra cool reason to explore if we could find like, sheet music or a CD in each world and bring it back to the shop to expand the song list. But oh well.
>>574214934yeah but erm how does this personally affect you?
>>574214934unironically this, everyone must go into the lake
>>574214963He said that because 5+6+7 are equivalent in lenght to 1+2+3+4 so it's still halfway
>>574214878>a big fuck off piano that no one useshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghJlRyhwWuU
>>574214754>snowgraver lusting for SusieWhy are all you guys subliterate?
>>574214963he said it at the end of ch4.implying the existance of ch8.its not hard to imagine when there is evidence right in front of you saying it EXPLICITLY.
GO INTO THE LAKEBREAK OPEN THE WORLDOBTAIN FREEDOOM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>574214851>ch1the toys were already in disuse, that's the whole point>ch3Tenna being given away is explained and the rest is mostly garbage that fell inside the couch (I don't know how Elnino and Lanina can exist in the dark world if Tenna was given away to Mettaton, just go with it)>ch4handwaved with Alvin being impressed by the letter. someone would probably smell the incense coming from the closet eventually however>ch5 even if Asgore wasn't kidnapped it's just a bunch of leaves and maybe a couple of scissors.>ch2Only big plot hole. No library staff member, not even Berdly notices that all the probably very expensive equipment is missing. They'll want that shit back eventually.
>>574215142severe homomiseo.i dont think i will get the chance to drown two faggots in one sequence again.
>>574213747>That’s why she can transform into a dark frisbeeSo can Kris though
>>574215240Carol will pay for it so we can keep Queen.
>>574214621>>574214963>>574215062There's no way Toby makes an 8th chapter, but it's possible the ending is left open and an invitation goes out to people to make it themselves. Gerson does foreshadow this. It'll probably have some grounding in Gaster not being able to "see past the end" or something
>>574215352Forgot to sign your post buddy
>>574214978The 7th one is in the chapter 4 egg room, the Castle Town Bludinn is an extra one because Kris can't count cards.
Toby really just piled on as much tragedy and as much scumminess into one character and called it a day huh
>>574214907>Ralsei shows up in castletown at the end of chapter 5 even though Kris isn't there, so he can't be the knife, the headband, or most regular objects>"Even I, the one telling you this... I too, am..." implies Ralsei is 'something' in the light world and thus he (probably) can't be a concept or an imaginary friend/selfThese two things are the the wall that most Ralsei theories have to get past.
>>574215356How much training did Kris do to unlock this amazing and totally real transformation?
>>574215352You can get that chance any time you go swimming with your dad though.
So any schizos manage to extract what this part of Mew Mew's fight means for theories and foreshadowing?
>>574215424the chapter 4 egg room blue rudinn IS the castle town bludinn
>>574215452>"Even I, the one telling you this... I too, am..."I don't think he was implying he'd reveal what object he is, he was just going to say he's not real like the other darkners. Also with Flowery's "Impossiblity" comment the odds he's something else altogether are much higher.
>>574215518Why doesn't it have Bludinn's vocal tic and how does it teleport between dark worlds
>>574215497you'll be hanging by a rope decades before i smile destiny in the face.
>>574215504>same green "wires" from the spamton fight after a host soul tries to forcefully merge with a bodyROOTS
>>574215504You don't have to be a schizo theory fag to assume it just means soul and kris synthesis is the better outcome
>>574214870I don't think it's gonna be as trite as "le escapism bad" but it's clear Susie is maintaining a sort of willful ignorance. It's genuinely kinda sweet because she wants to believe Kris is her close ride-or-die friend. She thinks Kris is "The Cool" and to do a "Cool Pose" in chapter 5 she mimics Kris.God Susie is gonna get hurt so bad when the truth can't be denied.
>>574215504me being the soul is a good thing for kris
Deltarune is about Susie's journey of accepting no one likes her and if anyone acts like they want to be her friend it's part of an elaborate cultist conspiracy theory and not real so she should live in a closet
>>574214907Toby won't make Kris canonically male
Asriel is a good kid who tries and fails to be badKris is a bad kid who tries and fails to be good
>>574214337I came to the conclusion that the joke about the Mikes is that they're retarded.So anyone who feels personally slighted by the Mikes is a retard.Toby doesn't hate people speculating on his game he just wants to dunk on theoryshitters. Andrew Cunningham tries to stay conservative/boring in his predictions and even he got brutally cuckolded this chapter, on purpose. But the average fan escaped chapter 5 relatively unharmed.
>>574215665You got nothing for why the sky gets dark and red and she has green wires connected to her fingers?
>>574215654That doesnt seem likely, you're too emotional and I'm too chill.
>>574215504device layer stuff, green is closely associated with gaster.nothing fancy.
>>574215452Kris doesn't need to carry Ralsei on their person. What the fundamental nature of Ralsei is in the Lightworld isn't as important as the markers that define that he's based on Kris' Dreemurr OC, anon. Even if it's a tree, it's a tree reading off of Kris' blueprint for a second go at being born. If he's the broken dreams of Kris, abandoned in a time capsule or under the floorboards of the closet or whatever, He doesn't need to move in the Lightworld to exist in other Darkworlds. Do you think the Friendcats we now know hunt people through Darkworlds are needing to move between them physically in the Lightworld? I think all Darkworlds are connected like in the Chapter 1 cutscene where one fountain is seen from another.
>>574214870Toby will cuck us out of a genuine Susie rematch by having an evil monochrome copy of Susie (Silver Drake) in chapter 6’s dark world which will cause another chapter 4 scene where Susie gets upset at someone (this time Noelle), they agree to change their ways, and nothing changes afterwards.
>>574214870I think weird route's ch5 Susie dialogue shows that Susie is being consciously pretending to be dumb and ignoring things she doesn't like, like she does with Noelle. It's much more likely she knows already Kris is doing triple trucies behind her back.The thing is, she probably believes this isn't a big issue, and just like Ralsei, they're doing it for a good cause, the problem will happen once Kris does something that harms either Noelle, Ralsei or both
>>574214907Kris and Ralsei's personalities don't exactly match, and some people find it boring and reductive of Ralsei's character to be an extension of Kris>>574215746Kris doesn't have to be canonically born male, it implies Kris at one point wanted to be like Asriel, who is male.
>>574215791projection and distractions won't make you any connected to the human condition.i simply assume that you post mew-mew for a very specific reason that is not just superficial as you are.
>>574215640bludinn doesn't have a vocal tic it just says oho when greeting you to castle town because it talks weirdit teleports between dark worlds because it's some weird fucking goner bullshit i don't know something's up with that fucker
>>574215789Not really, the sky being like that is just the background looking coolI get what you mean with the green wires though, it's just to show she's wired to the device, just like spamton, and just like Kris to you, that's all
>>574215915i simply assume you're a very confused individual making up stories in your head about people you don't like to cope.
Krautsie, why are you such a hateful little shit? Like five minutes in /utg/ and you’re talking about cuckoldry joking about drowning gay people and encouraging others to kill themselves. Like you just got here
>>574215504Uhhhhh Wingle Dingle Gasterboy's Gameboy world has countermeasures in place to make it next to impossible for a soul or conscience to fully attach itself to a new vessel. He did it so (We) don't get up to any shenanigans but it ends up affecting Spamton and Pink.Is that schizo enough for you?
we're never having a good thread again, are we?
>>574215692You guys give Susie too little credit. She's going to see past Kris' "I'm the bad guy and you should hate me" bullshit so fast
what does gaster want out of this
>>574216027What's a good thread to you, anon?
Having so much sex with mew mew till the whole litter box is full
>>574216027Yes we are we just have to WAIT
i remember playing through chapter 1-3 feeling there must have been something wrong with me because i didn't like Ralsei or Noelle like how the story want me to be and i felt a bit terrible.
>>574216093Pussy, same as us
Chapter 5.5: Gaster's Grand Gaiden
Susie will never fight Kris in a genuine fight to the death because that would make the game too good and Fox doesn't want that. He will instead make kino Suselle scenes for himself to enjoy
>>574215948>bludinn doesn't have a vocal tic it just [has a vocal tic] because it talks weirdOkay
>>574216093Player cock
>you know what toby fox music needs? me singing over it - a lot of people for some reason
>>574215915>getting this mad over bantslol you're not gonna make it
>>574215746Wanting to be a man doesn't require being male. It almost even works the exact opposite way, Chudley.>>574215890You can read Kris' and Ralsei's dialogue through this lens and it really kind of works, though. Ralsei is constantly asking for permission to be himself, not from the Cage, but from his other-self, the original.
>>574216027This thread is amazing compared to the last few threads
>>574215998sometimes i am worried if you actually believe the things you say or if you want to say them to justify what you have become.
>>574216093cool battles
So what the hell is underneath the town?
>>574216215Highly erotic image
>>574216294ROOTS
I’m doing everybody in hometown (even you, Kris) like this once I get the vessel.
>>574215871The Silver Drake was Berdley, anon. A drake is a male duck. It was a Blue Prince pun
>>574216294Dirt
meet n fuck hometown, steve
>>574216294we'll find out in ch7 and ch7bthat's for sure.
>>574216227Toby won't make Kris canonically female either
>>574216119they're terrible people and you're meant to hate themralsei is a lying manipulative piece of shit in every chapterthey both pretend to be weak, meek, and mild
>>574216294Something horrible… ooooh it’s horrible… it’s stirring and it’s horrible…
>>574216093to make a new future, he told us that before he even gave us DELTARUNEthe point of why we're here is to test if it's possible for us to change the future
The save the worlds there is only one wayRalsei must fart on it
>>574216319It's kind of fascinating how people always assume that the Ice Palace scene was about a future event when Ralsei leaves the party in the same chapter where that scene happens
>>574216294Something that pulls YOU into the game.Low chance of success, high chance of pain and seizure.
>>574216372It's like your brain doesn't work. Do you not understand how Kris being nonbinary but having wanted to be a man doesn't actually strongly evidence either gender as part of their childhood? Especially if Kris was making a Dreemurrsone that they explicitly have abandoned by the start of the game. It doesn't tell you what genitals Kris has.
>>574216473brrrppflt
>>574216119I didn't like them either honestly. Ralsei clearly lies to your face and hides stuff, Noelle is just boring aside from her trauma shit that hasn't been explored enough yet
>>574215890Ralsei has the same personality traits that we’re told Asriel has by different characters in Hometown over the chapters (handicaps himself, rules abider, cooks for/feeds by paying others). He’s an imperfect clone; copy, even. The other copies we know about are Goners and the Flying Aces and we’ve already guessed that a certain Rudinn in town is secretly a Flying Ace. Goners fit the XXXXX-er naming scheme of Lightners, Monsters, and Darkners, and perhaps their inclusion in Undertale was previewing this concept with Entry 17 as a justification for their existence. What I’m getting at is that Goners are another type of Dark World special case like Gerson and the Flowers, and this’ll be how evil Susie is created and will be explained to the player. Assuming such, the Vessel and Ralsei can easily be considered Goners of Kris and Asriel with the former being discarded for some reason we learn in 7.
>>574216545Toby won't make Kris' struggles with gender identity part of the plot at all
all the good kris fanart is male but all the good porn is female curious
Chapter 5 made me realize how far gone I am compared to the normal person. They couldn’t even PRONOUNCE bromide. I’m sorry for being an idolschizo……. I’m lonely………
>>574216119I've finished the game and I honestly can't say I really love any of the characters lol, but yeah Ralsie and Noelle are definitely towards the bottom. Noelle at least gets her cool moment in Ch5's weird routActually no, I love Berdly
>>574216119Noelle kinda sucks ass and she should just tell Kris she wants to be friends again. Or whatever the fuck she wants to be.Only thing wrong with Ralsei is he's a pussy gayboy who keeps holding back.But if Ralsei ever crashes out then the world probably ends or something so I guess I can sympathize.
I found a dude on twitter who alternates between defending Asgore as a great guy and parent to posting MAGA slop, man there are no normal Asgorefags left huh
>>574216119Noelle is a noncharacter without the WR and Ralsei doesn't really do anything until chapter 5
>>574216581I don't think Toby Fox is going to have Kingdom Hearts Nobodies in his game, and if Ralsei is a monochrome copy then why are his horns red and his eyes pink?
>>574216119A strange confession.I'm curious why you'd feel like there's something wrong with yourself. Or even something wrong in general with not liking characters "like how the story wants you to."Please elaborate, anon!
>>574216505The Ice Palace might’ve been the Dreemur fridge and we got cockblocked from it by Tenna.
the character that blushes and tells me to step on him makes me uncomfortable, am I schizophrenic
>>574216710Its crazy to play a game with this much text and just not engage with it.
>>574216818who carss he makes my pengy stand up tall and proud
>>574216718Less Nobodies and more “that one bit in FF4 where Cecil goes to the mirror place to fight his inner demons.”
>>574216294The Meat Factory
>>574216615this is not an angry or judgemental post, but unironically how did you get invested enough to end up in a 4chan video game general if you don't feel any emotional resonance/enjoy any of the characters? like, basically all of toby's work rely EXTREMELY hard on characterization and character-led writing, i'm really confused here
>>574216601That's what you hope for, not anything you can say for certain. Either way it would barely be a footnote and a secret detail. Mancountry is already in the game. The real reveal is Kris created Ralsei, which doesn't require going into specifics, just Kris wanting to fit in as a Dreemurr
>>574216818Yes. If you don't love Ralsei you are fucked in the head.
>>574216923He just said he loves Berdly
>>574216818>Nah bro…This is the appropriate response to like 90% of the things Ralsei says
>>574216981NTA but oof if thats the only charactrr he likes that means he's mentally ill
>>574216923Nta but it's not that difficult, I've seen people find the game still very entertaining just because of Kris and Susie alone. Ralsei had for the longest time this syndrome post Chapter 2 a huge chunk of the fandom just ignored his existance. Noelle also has problems but she has a massive advantage with the Weird Route content boosting her character.
>>574216923>I don't enjoy Noelle and Ralsei>DOOOOD WHY THE FUCK DO YOU NOT LIKE ANY OF THE CHARACTERS WHY?????????????????????????????
>>574216818anon, your uncomfortableness might be because you are stuck in dissonance with yourself.maybe its high time that you come clean to yourself about something and take your normal pills.
>>574216981ONLY enjoying a side character that only has relevance in one early chapter doesn't breed enough engagement to start posting in a general
>>574216927I’d definitely say the red horns are supposed to be a reference to Kris’ red headband but not that Ralsei is literally the headband.
>>574217062gaster wants the happy ending it's ERAM who leads you astray
>>574217062*her
>>574217074How is that different from people who hyper fixate on random ass side characters or bossesWould you say the same about people who love and post about the flowers but don't like Noelle and Ralsei when CH6 comes out
>>574217051you don’t enjoy noelle or ralsei because you are a sub iq brainlet who needs a character to explain their actions to you via crayons and sticky notes lol
>>574213320i love them both equally. noelle does feel like the evolved Chara though
>>574216659Noelle doesn't want to be friends with Kris. She wants to mash clams with Susie and Kris is in the way of that>>574217035A ton of players are the kind of retard who can't care about Darkners because they're explicitly not "real".
>>574216927>That's what you hope forI'm indifferent to it, I just recognize how Toby typically writes these things. Kris was always nonbinary from a young age going by Noelle's ICE-E story, Mancountry has a "non-men are okay too" sign, the other trans characters in the game are either very minor like the dress lion or they're more allegorical like Mettaton and Maddie. It's just like how he doesn't make homophobia a plot point for all the gay relationships he writes.
Will Kris's LV (Level of Violence) ever increase
I really do want Ralsei to be trans so we can dress her up in all kinds of cute frilly clothes and I can call her princess and kiss her and hold her
The lack of Lancer and Rouxls in chapter 5's Dark World was felt Lancer bros....There's a Lancer shaped hole in my Lancer shaped heart.
>>574217262He was sovl the game that made c1/demo so special. I believe the games quality went downhill because of him being absent
It's legit a little crazy that ch2 had all this "rapey" subtext with forcing Noelle to do stuff and the faces she made, plus the crazy Easter eggs. >Examine her five times in the plate for "why are they staring into my eyes like that?">Move during the hospital dialog (only time you could input move during dialog up to that point) for her to stop and stream "Stop! Don't come any closer!"Then in ch4 literally you go into her room alone with her and approach her as she keeps backing away on the couch and saying let's stop and waving her hand and eventually outright says "I-I thought you said you wanted to protect me" and then of course you had that rose animation, but even the bloody crack animation is extremely violent and happens because you "penetrated" her with a "thorn".Then ch5 rolls around and she's like "Kris... THAT WAS AWESOME"
If every line in the game refers to only one thing and we can cross them off for foreshadowing when we link that thing to something that’s happened so far, could we make a list of lines that we could definitively use for foreshadowing/hinting future content?
I dont like Lancer
>>574217142Man I'm sorry but even if they're the most complex and interesting characters ever maybe people just don't like Mr. "you can step on me" and Ms. "Excheese me btw have I told you already how much I love Susie"You lure people into enjoying characters with superficial traits that are amusing to then reveal deeper layers, Ralsei and Noelle have superficial traits that suck and you have to engage with the characters despite them
>>574216545Kris isn’t nonbinary they are genderless. Nonbinary is a gender identity. Canonically Kris has no actual gender, and so you can think of it however you want — that’s the intent. Of genders there are two: man (amab, of the male sex) and woman (afab, of the female sex). Basically every piece of Kris art portrays them as one or the other.
A Nostalgic Mirror: Ralsei, Dess' Memories of the Dreemurrs, 5 hours of theoryslop claiming Ralsei is a photo of the goats that Dess kept in her wallet
>>574216923kek. Deltarune still has fun gags, always has something interesting going on with the gameplay, and has the mystery of it all going for it. I fucking love the conflict between the player and Kris, I find that so interesting.It's not like I hate the characters, but I don't love any of them the way I love the characters in Undertale, and I've definitely had an "Okay, enough already" moment with all of them except Berdly and Queen
>>574217439Can you use the word troon so your post gets filtered? Thanks. Nobody cares about your headcanon
>>574217409i am absolutely boggled that there are people that hate the weird route.
>>574217435can you tell me your favorite character before i make assumptions
>>574217071what if i'm a girl and i feel uncomfortable at ralsei
Deltarune is getting harder to enjoy if you aren't a terminally online freak who has been living in the fandom for yearsNoelle barely exists as a character outside of the weird route but toby expects people to care about her because of all the years of drip fed ARG lore and fan art
>>574217549Him being nonbinary is a headcanon. Toby never EVER said that. He never ever will. It’s simply not canon :3 seethe all you want about it
>>574217550I don't want to hurt Darkners or Berdly. I want to help Kris, not drive them insane. Not that hard or weird. I expect the game will eventually comment on the existence of alternate paths and either enable them or add them retroactively, but the WR that people have experienced so far requires that you treat Deltarune like a videogame from the beginning and I don't want to do that
>>574217583what does that have to do with anything?its 2026, women can be retarded too!
>>574217605>expects people to care about her because of all the years of drip fed ARG loreDoes the ARG actually amount to any important insights or lore about her? I never payed attention to that shit
Kris is a null
>>574211715>plot takes seven days at mostHow did Toby manage to fuck up such a simple schedule?
>>574217550it's toby's best stroke of writing. i hope he can pull that energy into normal route for chapters 6 and 7
>>574217701It gives her a few crumbs of characterization that she doesn't get in the actual game
>>574217687People like you came from Undertale thinking doing anything bad to a video game character is evil
>>574217578it's probably tenna or spamton
>>574216505>future eventsThey are both past and future for Kris, it all blends together. The Ice Palace is chapter 2 weird route into chapter 5. The "used up" scene is future events because that's Kris and Noelle entering the lake and dying. It's not prophetic, it's a repressed memory everything is in past tense. The third board is a separate memory from a different time line after Kris did the weird route. The golden cactus/golden seed dichotomy makes that certain, plus we go into the shelter and the mantle boss fight and chest rooms form a big 6... And we're skipping chapter 6 on the weird route. There's no secret third route, we just didn't have enough information to truly understand what we were seeing before. However, many people are not reassessing their view of the sword route from the ground up they are trying to make the new information fit the theories that were made with less complete information
>>574217605You're not wrong but she had fans from Chapter 1. People don't have crazy high standards for their favorite character. They just like them and keep liking them>>574217701Some of it does. Her being a gamer and having a very easy time running into glitches and loving it is very much part of the WR
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My wife waking up next to me looking like this
Yeah Ralsei makes me feel really uncomfortable. Anyways guys I’m gonna go play the totally optional evil rape route real quick see you in a few
>>574217409I love all the dialogue if you keep trying to say "stop". Eventually Noelle is smiling saying "proceed" herself and the jingle keeps playing. I genuinely think that's incredibly important. It's the first time in the game Noelle is taking what she wants. Even Susie coming over in ch4? Was Susie's idea. Going to the festival with Susie? Susie's idea. Failing this sequence sends Noelle back to that date as she laments that she's "just a Noelle".I'm not writing this to be anti Suselle I'm just highlighting that Noelle's agency feels so fucking important in this game. Everyone has been lying to her for years for the sake of protecting her but they haven't seen the dark consequences in her heart. Chapter 4 Weird has Noelle ask Kris & Susie to come over on her own volition then ch5 has this.
>>574216227Ralsei is asking from permission from the player because he is desperately trying to appease the player so you don't fuck everything up
So is Kris using acts to transform magic or not?
>>574217870poo poo will never be relevant again desu you gotta let it go
>>574217578I really like Ralsei despite a lot of things I'm iffy about him, because the deeper aspects of his character are very endearing to me. I just acknowledge he's very easy or very difficult to get into
>>574217689he still seems secretly evil to me on the same level as kris, where it's for a greater good but i don't trust em. quiet people piss me off, susie
>>574217782Deltarune doesn't want to have the same stark black-and-white systems Undertale had, but it's still telling a story about what you do as a videogame player, and I'm taking my role in the story seriously. I engage with the game on this level. I notice when the game wants me to think about what I'm making Kris do. I even think the plot revolves around Kris trying to protect Noelle from the conspiracy around her, so it makes no sense for me to force the WR
>>574217809I'm talking about the scene where Noelle and Rudy play through the Ice Palace in Dragon Blazers unless you think the Dragon Blazers series is adapted from Kris' repressed memories
love me or ill cry
>>574218013no
>>574216227>Wanting to be a man doesn't require being male.you are right but the only way to Be A Man is to be born male. for young male characters, the desire to "be a man" is an extremely common thing to write in. i feel mancountry reflected that and the >non-men are allowed toosign was likely thrown in so nobody could whine about anything being canonized
>>574217928I think it's going to be magic by the end. Kris' lack of magic is a fundamental belief about themselves, but it's changing as the description of ACT does, chapter by chapter
>>574216294Eternal night. An ocean of darkness, I imagine.
>>574217928It says it can't be considered magic so it can't be considered magic
>>574217928I think changing costumes is an aspect of the Dark World like being able to play an instrument intuitively rather than Magic
>>574216205>song is built like a karaoke>people sing to itWow!! Who could had thunk it!?!?!?
>>574217409In Chaoter 5 Aborted Weird Route, Kris' title changes to "Shattered Rose".The rose imagery in Chapter 4 was never meant to be Noelle, it was meant to be Kris. The likely chain of events is that Toby was too caught up in his view of DELTARUNE as a whole that he literally just failed to consider that a deflowering, without the context of what happens later (Shattered Rose), looks overwhelmingly like Noelle just got her virginity stolen. He realized that, went "wait hey no no guys its not noelle it's a metaphor for kris wait no no no stop", and changed it to a red shattering visual - which still doesn't actually get across that it's Kris and not Noelle being broken, and is why there was a third version after that which was just the red dot.
Yipeeeee oooh anon you like the game so much? How about this? Berdly in chapter 6 is officially a cuckhold! Fahahahaha! Don't you like that? What? You are looking for more Catti and Jockington content? Well, now they are polygamous swingers with double body counts! Huh? You don't care about my Deltarune? You only care about Gaster? YIPEEEEE HERE GASTER FOR YOU. Now Gaster is a obese fatfuck with two black boyfriends! Thanks for playing!
>>574218008Ohhh my bad I misunderstood. It's could be perceived as being about Ralsei and Susie leaving (no magic at all) or it could be about Noelle leaving (specifically losing a "shock" spell) but yes I generally agree. I do think kris's repressed memories being related to dragon blazers and the connection between dragon blazers and the prophecy isn't a coincidence tho
>>574217763We already have the suspicion that the final tragedy is that one of the heroes will die or will have to kill someone dear to them.or that they have to be sacrificed in some manner.if its kris, the story ends there - but before that the story says how the angel will be banished. if that's us, then the story ends for us there too.a story without kris can still work, but a story without (YOU) is completed even if the point of our disconnection is not a happy end or the actual ending, causing the death of your friends just because your friends rely on your guidance.if its ralsei, i think both kris and susie will feel that, kris refuses to say mean things like "keep smiling". kris would be sad as shit if he died at the very least.and if its the either noelle or susie, shit is going south pretty quick, apart from her being susie being our tank and noelle being fucking useless (normal route), there is hell to pay if susie gets butchered. all we know is that when the roaring comes, only one will stand last and that is "A GIRL", no specification as to which one, but we know a girl will bethere when everyone else is.i personally think its susie equipped with our soul in the normal route final moments.
>>574218236Why are all your hypothetical gripes sexuality-based
so who is ready with a perfect setup for chapter 6 ?
>>574218021a lot of sexual energy coming from this pose
>>574218316Reactionary.
>>574218173Ok but Toby only put that description in there to make us suspicious that it could be magic though surely. There's no reason to change it or even mention it otherwise.
Whats with kriss being a pussy called out by noelle in weird route chapter 5, is he resisting more or what?
>>574218342The BlackShard is evil, don’t use it. Get the AquaKnife instead for the defense boost. Ditch the apron, you don’t need it if you don’t get hit.
how tf can people accept suselle as lesbians but not kris as nonbinary.
>>574218196Makes me wonder if in future chapters if he is going to try and lay on the message even thicker to compensate because him outright saying Kris is the shattered rose still hasn't sunk in for most of thr playerbase yet, Noelle being the raped seems to really be the predominate intepretation and Toby will be doomed with:>he's just backpeddling for damage control of the original symbology!Accusations for as long as he lives.
>>574218316epstein told him to be mad about these thingsand now he ismany such cases
>>574218342I took the hat for Susie, in case I need to Rude Buster through another Knight fight. Seems kinda dubious. I'm wondering if Pacify will become a big deal and that's why so much equipment related to it was offered
>>574218468how can mirrors be real if our eyes arent real
>>574218342>Turbo skips chapter 6GET FUCKED
>>574218342>Using the Jevilstail>In Chapter 6It's time to let it go. You wont be able to equip the scarf either because it's broken.
>>574218297Seth gets dommed by Aqua on the regular, I just know it
>>574217860nice
>>574218421>don't get the harpoon if you don't get hit >take the knife for Def instead
>>574218497Pacifying is just usually the most efficient way of dealing with enemies. If you're focused on clearing the battles fast it might be useful. The magic will also boost Susie's healing as well as her Rude Buster so putting it on her is a fine choice.
Ralsie puts me off because he's always begging for validation and I'm too much of a people-pleaser to deny him, and I don't wanna get locked into the brother-fucking rout
>>574218482Releasing Chapter 3 and 4 separately from Chapter 5 was mandatory to salvage the obscene development hell that was that was that entire epoch of development, but it may have done irreparable damage to the Weird Route's perception. I hope Toby learned a valuable lesson about organization and project management from this
>>574218468Kris is cooler that average fat ugly nonbinary person irl
>>574218196You got it twisted. Red dot is the placeholder, shatter is final visual in the game.
fuck you avatarniggers, theoryshitters and shipfags. post GAMEPLAY you want to see or want more of. for me, its FFT combat, classes, all of it. id accept any ripped off turn based squad or unit based tactics, really.
What's that??? You... you like Berdly?? You like Pizzapants??? No... No, no... You are supposed to hate them. Hate them! Make more Suselle art! Laugh at Kris! Whaaaat?! What do you mean you like Asgore more than Toriel??????? No, stop! You are not supposed to like these characters!
>>574218090I’m trying to think of any S or R acts that have them dress up by themselves. If not, then the costumes could be treated as weaponized character customization or dress up that group acts allow the other two party members to borrow said ability. Ralsei’s costumes are physical (as much as the Dark World is physical) and should be treated separately.This kinda makes the Susie dress-up segment a little messed up because it’s another Kris exclusive thing that Susie has taken over.
>>574218342Seth is a throw item, get her something to boost Susie's magic stat for rude buster.You don't want Seth's anyways because it makes you get less Tension points
>>574218690It went>Rose>Shatter>Dot>Shatter then dotIf memory serves
>>574218719Kris pizzapants berdley anf flowery party WHEN for pureKINOINO
>>574218468It's not very complicated. It's a combination of them being sensitive snowflakes, the culture war and wanting to self-insert as Kris so they can imagine themselves with the other characters. Toby is too nice to violently filter them, but it might happen naturally anyways, since it's almost the central theme of the game that You Are Not Kris, Stop Wanting To be, It's Creepy And They Hate It
>>574217972i used to think that too, but i honestly believe he knows EVERYTHING.he hasn't just read the prophecy, but he is 30% prophecy by weight and while he can only know it by heart, he has to see the events to know when they happen due to the vague wording of them.and i think he is as soft on the inside as he is outside and he had to be very strong to hold all this terrible knowledge inside, not to lead us astray but to keep us safe and to divine us the signs of time.he is a keeper of knowledge.and he knows he is losing his friends.friends he just wanted to make heroes.heroes that made him feel like he is something, when he is not.heroes that gave him a purpose, a personality.even a sense of self, he began having feelings for the heroes.feelings he is arguably not supposed to have, because he is the messenger of the darkness.he is the one reading the scrolls that they are doomed.that his friends are going to die.and with them, the world.and if that doesn't terrify you into some restraint, just trying to enjoy the moment of short-lived love, then what would you do?
>>574218196>He realized that, went "wait hey no no guys its not noelle it's a metaphor for kris wait no no no stop", and changed it
>>574218701>gameplayYou are getting even more party members. Berdly, Catti and Jockington!
>>574218264im with you on everything except the soul going to susie. i just want the vessel back
>>574218646>>harpoonIt’s over for you, berdbro.
Fluff
>>574218468homosexuality is normal and requires no outside confirmation, but being nonbinary literally only started being a thing in like 2016 and transness in general requires the viewer's permission/agreement to be trans. all trans people want you to use their special pronouns gays don’t give a fuck if you tell them they aren’t gay because they know that trait is simply immutable. for nonbinary its like i just cant see any of the reasons people normally id as that (wanting to be special, escaping culpability by claiming heckin queerness, feeling the pressure of stereotypes, social mirroring, etc) impacting any character in the game because of how little gender seems to matter in general
>>574218818>Kris acting that socially adjustedUnbelievable OOC
>>574218719But there's a lot of Pizzapants love and fanart now
>>574218893This is pre-horrible incident
>>574218539>doesn't know the brokenscarf is actually equipable >doesn't know it has hidden broken statts just for ralsei>hasn't have a premonitory dream about the next deltarube patch buffing jevil's tail into the most busted armor in the gamengmi
>>574218701Tactics section using your recruits from Castle Town.Could be kino...
>>574218818MORE cute, please.
>>574218658You were already locked into the incest route the moment you decided to play Homestuck the JRPG
>>574218657Jevil's fight had a Pacify route and we're heading into a Seam thing with the dark crystals. Cheaper Pacify might be meant for that.>>574218739I am kind of dreaming of a Solo Kris segment where they use Rude Buster as Susie and heal someone as Ralsei. There's also something there that works as a hack to the prophecy: You can have 1 person perform all the roles in the play
>>574218879>homosexuality is normalalready wrong.
>>574218775i wonder why you types always jump to self-insertion
>>574218961Kris was even more of a gremlin as a kid than after the incident which made them withdraw and stop torturing Noelle for fun.
>>574218961He has the horns tho so he is already in his "Why im not like my parents and the other monster" angst phase
>>574212697Its a cute little bandaid :D
>>574218974istg that blank column in the recruit menu is for unit class
Tehee oh you thought I fooled you and made Pizzapants straight instead of forced gay fanservice? SIKE. CHAPTER 7. Pizzapants says "oh ice cream guy you said the truth i like boys now" and I will make Catty and Bratty cuck him! Fahahahaha!
>>574218468I dont accept either
>>574218701i don’t see how anyone could play deltarune for the gameplay kek the gameplay is more seasoning for the meat, which is all the stuff you apparently hate
>>574218842ralsei insists that a happy ending is with kris.susie will probably insist on noelle and vice versa.ultimately, we don't know.but i feel these four have the potential to be on the chopping block.
>>574218747Seth is literally the best magic item in the game so far, besides the inv time goes from 0.8 tp 0.9 who cares about that
>>574218719You are beyond retarded if you think Toby wants you to hate Pizzapants of all characters
>>574218962>doesn't know the brokenscarf is actually equipableNext chapter you'll see you can't equip it to Ralsei. It was overlooked in this chapter because Ralsei leaves the party after it changes before you can equip it. There would be no point to the Blue Shoes otherwise. The Broken scarf will eventually be an ingredient in Ralsei's ultimate weapon though.
None of this would have happened if you had never played the gameAll of this is your fault
>>574218873
>>574218764Pretty soon it's gonna be a black screen with red scrawlled text saying "AND THEN KRIS BECAME THE SHATTERED ROSE LIKE IN THEIR TITLE IN THE MENU CHECK THE MENU IT'S A METAPHOR NO NOT FOR RAPE NO ONE GOT RAPED STOP SAYING NOELLE GOT RAPED ALSO KRIS DIDN'T GET RAPED EITHER STOP SAYING THAT" and then the annoying dog absorbs the rose and the weird rout gets cancelled
Aqua!
>>574218974>The Roaring is started>The titans emerge>The town is evacuated into Castle Town and the final battle happens thereKino
>>574219101i don't followpizzapants will go gay for nice cream guy, who will then immediately turn around and fuck catty and bratty instead?at least make your bait plausible
>>574218739>I’m trying to think of any S or R acts that have them dress up by themselvesTheir solo ACTs in the Yellow/Blue fight
If kris never stopped bullying noelle this all wouldnt happened, just saying
>>574219165ulelele~
>>574219224
piss taste from best to worst:ralsei > noelle > kris > susie
>>574219216Yeah well Mario says "Thanks for playing my game" so I thought it was cool to make video game characters get to the credit sequence. I didn't know Kris was real.
>>574219186yes anon, toby coded secret stats buff when you equip it for nothing. (also there was a litteral patch that change how the brokenscraf was equipable to ralsei and noelle to only ralsei)
>>574219101pizzapants being gay means catty x bratty won't be cucking it'll be a gay lesbo fest which is what i wantsaid noelle, who ships her sister's friends like a freak
>>574219381Susie shatters urinals with her mighty stream
If Dess hadn't taught Kris that being cool means being a maladjusted cunt that spends more time fantasizing about being a star than practicing none of this would have happened
>>574218342I'll kick that chairs ass, that is if the game lets me hit it
>>574219423yes anon, toby made the blue shoes but then decided to give an even better ralsei exclusive weapon straight after you choose it.
>>574218468enbies are genuinely so fucking annoying, literally the only thing that changes when they come out is what other people call them. coming out used to mean YOU started doing something, not everyone else(I'm cool with Kris though because they're not a real person and it creates a neat storytelling opportunity. If they're cool with letting me puppeteer them into raping their childhood friend, the least I can do is respect their pronouns)
>>574219472>"Hey want to see how hard I can piss?">*punches hole through wall*
>>574219486if dess had molested kris like he wanted none of this would have happened
>>574219025Because you types always jump to self-insertion and it's become very predictable. Most of the Chapter 5 hate are broken hearted bitches feeling cucked by the lesbian relationship
Is FWB (FRIEND with benefits) strong enough to beat the cock?
>>574219273im going to spend the entire next year building this up in my head. if it doesnt happen, im going to crashout worse than carolanon when she learned her art is trash
>>574219330knowing I will never have this makes me wanna kill myself
>>574219298well shit
Darkness? Depths? In my Deltarune?
>dude LOOMIS
>>574218468Never met someone who’s nonbinary who isn’t below the age of 23 then changes their mind later after finding something else to make their identity or hasn’t decided to become trans yet
I feel like I am the only one that actually wants Ralsei to be a girl. She would be so cute, and I would finally find her sexy.
>>574219617Hope dies last
>>574219597No but I want to see her try anyways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCut2rFo1bk
>>574219582“most” is a bad exaggeration i hate it because it didn’t build up on decade long hype
>>574219641How did we come to live in the era mostly faceless blob nonbinaries make for the average indie video game main character?
Raly, little friend, why are you such a pussy?>dabs on you
I want to be swallowed by Dess
>>574219721you will not have the strength to survive the coming age
>>574219519why not choose brokenscarf it's +12 to ralsei if you want to throw hands with him>>574219524and why do you think toby would bother with the Aquaknife if Blackshard already exist ? it's just other options for different playstyle (blueshoes is not orrianted for fight compared to brokescarf)
>>574219721are you an autist why does this read like an alien wrote it
>>574218701i feel like it toby wanted deltarune to be more combat focused he should let the stats carry over between dark fountains and let us have more builds for the party members. there's no real incentive to combat aside from the knight and Titan fight. if after we defeated an enemy we got the option to spare them or gain power by losting the darkners that'd be way more fun
>>574219769>6/10Azzys standards were really low huh...
>>574219572>(... stop doing that "me next?" expression, dumbass.)
>>574219721you'll get Ralsei (trans) (post dark estrogen) and you'll like it, enjoy the monkey paw
>>574219748they're the blankest slates possible, not surprisingthe knight was literally created to be a blank slate in-universe
>>574219756*jobs on you
>>574219850Yes I am autistic. I'm sorry if I have made you uncomfortable. I will be quiet.
Your boypussy is a work of art
I’m on the toilet taking a shit rn
>>574219748The era of fat Italian plumbers for lead characters has sadly come to an end. We used to have relatable characters that were easy to self insert as.
Ooops, sorry Kris I'm not that interested in catching the Roaring Knight now. Yeah I know it took undyne and your dad, and it almost took your mom too before the janitor on the store fucked her brains out but... I REALLY need to have sex with Noelle in front of you. Come on! Be a good friend for me, I will let you watch!
>>574219756Unironically what happened in chapter 5, kek
>>574219725it's running out fast tho
>>574219896But just over 10 years ago, making a normal male main character was the blank slate.
>>574219603I'd type the darkners defend them but it's too kino to greentext say out loud
>>574220021women play video games now, or at least game devs think they do
>>574220021If /utg/ teaches you anything, it should be that males are not normal.
>>574219862I've never been more disappointed than when I got to the first chapter 5 battle and realized I didn't have my 1HP from that chest. Toby HATES fun.
>>574219938It's about time the Sistine Chapel got a new coat of paint.
schizotheory idea:chara is not short for character, but short forChar_A the first, the original player number 1.You re Char_B if at all.
>>574220002
>>574220002damn i hope he (ralsei) gets a happy ending… come to the light world, my sweet…
>>574220069But women love Link and he's male (although they androgynized him as much as possible for the Botw era style)
>>574219603You’re still on this? Nigga everyone saw an entire thread and mass of posts get deleted from you samefagging for hours about this
>>574220185
How many times do I have to tell you anon, there won't be another lightner party member again!
>>574219597She's welcome to beat my cock anytime.
>>574220293Shut up fag
Toby got the Void Stranger guy to work on Pink's fight so it's not impossible for there to be a Rouxls boss fight that's just sokoban puzzles
>>574220360Chapter 7 is going to be so good...
>>574220293So fucking pretty
>>574220343Don't threaten me with a good time mate
>>574220260samefagging about gameplay? nigga what... oh>every anon who brings up the schizo is the schizoyoure one of those
>>574220293>changes his mind with one simple trick
>>574220193Link would probably be genderless if the LoZ franchise wasn't created decades ago
>>574219972>"Also we kind of can't fuck, if you're not watching?">"If it's me and Noelle by ourselves we just can't get horny.">"I think this is what "lesbian bed death" is? When a girl can't fuck her girlfriend unless her friend is watching? And have never been able to?"
>>574219739I'm sure being a broken hearted bitch cucked by fictional characters doesn't have anything to do with your feelings about the other stuff you say the hate is about. There there, anon>>574220343You know there was a retard complaining about that credit on the first day of the chapter being out, saying Toby was letting trans people write the game. Crazy shit considering the context. System Erasure stuff is so fucking good
>>574220450i want to pet him so bad why isn’t there a single chance to do that all game
>>574220445No one believes your retarded falseflag
>>574220512>he would 100% do this>it's probably honey
>>574219234also dogsong with the weird route jingle soundfont plays
Will Knight Battle Theme 2 be even better than Black Knife
>>574220536That's Asriel and Dess in your picture anon
>>574220536We still have two chapters left, my belief is strong
>>574220536too lewd sorry
>flowery...? what are you doing in the diner...?>i'm just... we're just...>getting... bigger
>>574220518trannies aren’t even in system erasure its a couple of based regular men not busted men using she/her
>>574219915Don’t stay quiet to appease that faggot anon we all love you
Well, did Toby beat Yume Nikki?
>>574220637>two chapters leftWhose gonna tell em'?
>>574220153what was the shower arrested for
>>574220685Lol
>>574220637>tv sprouts two disembodied hands and a mouth>pets younightmares forever
>>574219915If you can't be weird on 4chan, where can you be weird? Ignore that anon and bee urself
>>574220536>>574220637FAAAAAAAKE FAAAAAAAAANSIf you enter Mike's room in ch4 with Susie and Ralsei you can use the hands to pet RalseiRalsei says "Yosh!" in enjoyment though if you put the hand on his lower body he makes a shocked face on his overworld sprite Then in a battle you can select "Pet Ralsei" and if you do it enough the game says "Petting overdose!" And he splats on the ground with the splat sound effect
I love flowery and berdley
>>574220637this is a cute ralyi love it when they draw him like a moe anime girl (he kind of is) >>574220679i have nothing but pure intentions
>>574220812MotherfuckerI regret not going back to Ch4 for the Mike stuff nowAll the more reasons to do a replay later, I guess
Noelle missed out on too much of the game to ever be a real member of the team
Deltarune informs me that a story should never ever have any character ever have any conflict with another character, ever. Or else people will be so mad they kill themselves.
>>574220864tranny ralsei art is really taking off now, huh?ch5 really did a number on them.
>>574220812if you hadn’t mentioned the lower body i would’ve believed you you almost got it
>>574220812You can pet Susie too but she just bites the Maus. If you try to pet Kris the Maus just gives them fruit though.
>>574220926shes always been with us in the dark (code), thoeverit
>>574220864Moe Ral is a delicate balance, but when they nail it, they really do
>>574220935this only happens if your game is being drip-fed 10 hours of content at a time for a decade
>>574220947Ralsei wears that outfit in the game which you'd know if you weren't a weird route only secondary
>>574220947Kek, there have been pictures of him in dresses way before Ch5, this is pretty neat, if anything. That pink dress, however, is really overplayed now, it was cute in the game but I'm rapidly getting tired of seeing it.
It's okay kris! You don't have to feel left out! You can date both me and Susie and tell everyone you have two girlfriends! But uuh we are sexual exclusively with you, sorry! We can't have sex or kiss each other, but you can watch us instead!
>>574220947howdy neighbor
>>574221082i agree also love it when they draw him like an old cnn cartoon
>>574220947>tranny ralsei art is really taking off now, huh?That's based on an in game sprite Kraut you tard
>>574221201it's the people associated with it that I'm tired of
>>574220991
>>574220926If anything, she experienced more than the gang, since she's the Knight and all. Roaring will happen in Castle town behind that one big door because of her
>>574221186
>>574221236Asexual*FuckToby you drive me insane why did you took everything from meMuh good writing deleted for yurislop and NTRslopHow I'm supposed to recover anons
Is the whole dialogue around Chapter 7 of the Lord of the Hammer supposed to being written by a new generation implying that in Chapter 7 the prophecy will be unfinished and we'll have to choose what happens?
>>574221201He looks best in a black dress, for the contrast.
>>574220947>kraut is a secondary who never beat mewmewunsurprising
>>574221339WR nigga
>>574221250bros... ralsei fuckin knew! why all the lies and secrets
deltarune isnt even all that
>>574218013I love you, anon
>>574221297he knows what I want
>>574221408All that what?
>>574221250>like an old cnn cartoonYeah, cartoony Ralsei can be really nicely stylized
>>574220935The problem is that this is a Nintendo game for children so "conflict" can't actually be meaningful because it would make children upset
>>574221328
>>574221285and uhhh.when was that?
>>574220947It's a canonical sprite. Don't worry, Ralsei still has a dick to fuck you with, homosexual-style
Why did he make a game if he hates people playing it so much?
What do you think of Toby writing style?
>>574221346It's that the Deltarune we are playing is the second attempt at fulfilling the prophecy and the last one fizzled out at the chapter 6 point and the Fun Gang are the new generation that finally pens the final chapterMaybe, probably
Which lighter is most likely to wear ass hugging low coverage booty jorts?Hard mode no bratty.Omega demon hard mode no catty.
what the vaguepost do you mean, bitxh?
>>574221376>black dressThat'd be a killer look, Ralsei can probably pull off something mildly edgy without the femboy design
>>574221553i don't know, it's different in every chapter
>>574221463
>>574221578Jockington absolutely does that
>>574220947What is wrong with Ralsei being a cute girl, anyhow? I like cute girls. I want Ralsei to wear more frilly dresses. It is very cute and appealing to me.
Ralsei obviously likes presenting as a woman sometimes, but the idea he's a repressing transfem just literally makes no sense. Sorry, it literally makes no sense. He became a princess for the climbing minigame of his own volition and then said the only difference between boy and girl royalty is how you present yourself. So from Ralsei's POV he is already being a woman when he dresses as Trucy or Maya for example. Ralsei is super comfortable with gender expression, Flowery trying to "crack his egg" is completely nonsensical in the context of all the rest of the text in the game. >Ralsei's forcing herself to be a prince for the prophecy If maintaining that appearance is so important, why did Ralsei become a princess in ch5? Again, by his own reasoning, he really was a princess in that scene. And it didn't matter. And why would Ralsei want the three heroes to all be there? That lets the prophecy go forward, and his entire goal is not letting the prophecy get to the last act.
>>574221652he is a tube
>>574221454How much you want to bet Carol tries to dismember a bitch in Chapter 6? In the Lightworld>>574221481Flirt sprite in the Mewmew fight>>574221569Ushering in the end of the world isn't a triumph
>>574221578rudy
>>574221578toriel, after a few more boosts of confidence from mr. sans
>>574219938why did flowery say this?
>>574221553It's been very cynical and spiteful latelyYou can tell he's sick of working on the game
>>574221525I'm gonna make a game about clubbing baby seals to death and the ending is just me coming out lowering my glasses and shaking my head judgementally like "I can't believe you played a game about clubbing baby seals to death, what's wrong with you?"
>>574219652Yeah. If you want to learn to draw, knowing basic concepts helps
>>574221297this is fake as fuck man get out of here
Noelle needs this kind of therapy.
there's only like 5 kids in class that have real hands how does that class even work
>>574221670hetero in denial
>>574221398I actually did beat mew.but i don't think i'll keep the savefile once ch7 drops.i'll just suffer along for ch6 and piss on kris while he's on the ground and sobs himself to sleep for making everything worse.
None of this matters, depending on route you will kill Ralsei or let him go anyway
>>574221684>giant wall of seethe from a delusional self-inserter>>>/v/
>>574221592he is fundamentally a femboy thoughever to the point of naturally having a pretty face and a cute bob cut (in his game sprite)
>>574221795>therapist turns away for a second>when he turns back, Noelle is holding a dead mouse in her teeth with an innocuous look
>>574221592The femboy part is what makes it hot.
>>574221708... i was focused on mew-mew on that fight and i only did the MEGAFLIRT.
>>574220727I hate this video. I watched the entire thing and while he starts off making some good points it turnz into failed lit school pseud drivel. Also was twice as long as it needed to be
>>574221842Yes I am heterosexual. I like Ralsei but usually do not post him because I am not attracted to men. But Ralsei being a girl would make her appealing to me. So I like that theory. It makes me want to post Ralsei more than I do now which is not.
>>574221708the end of the world is breathing down our necks and we have to go to school tomorrow...
>>574221838theres a xerox in the office. alphys lets them copy noelles notes
>>574221890He kind of is, but the hentai-tier designs some people do of him overdo it a bit
I dont know if Kris is supposed to be andro but as opposed to Frisk he comes of clearly male to meMight be just me tho
Carol keeps her tail tucked in her pants because it’s so distractingly white and cute and furry and it made ordering people around harder
>>574221569This is also why there's an emphasis on sequels like MMKC season 2, Dragon Blazers II, Blood Crushers 2, etc
What if we get our vessel back but Kris is our soul now?
>>574221445you get it >>574221907as do you
>>574221708The last generation's failure to complete the prophecy left Hometown (the world) stuck in stasis they have to get the final tragedy over with so that the world can move again
>>574222042Cottontail Carol
>>574221684they're mentally ill narcissists who like to project their belief into everything and search as much validation as possible anon
>>574222042i want to see her tail. it'll make me love her even more
I love how everyone thought that Susie is going to have a super cool and tragic boss fight in Weird Route but turns out the only thing she'll fight is crippling depression
>>574222127agreed i wish they'd leave them alone
I think guys look fine in dresses, why does it have to be a trans thing?
>>574222119This is how I look while browsing /utg/ daily.
>>574222197This is why you hit her from behind.
>>574222197Constipated
>>574221578Bra-Oh. Uhh...Catt-Damn it!
>>574222197>Kris...take them off>>I won't say it again, Dess or As ain't here to protect you now>>>go on, say it: STOP IT NOELLE OH PLEASE STOP!!!
people are really horny for the fairest human...
>>574222227Susie Weird Route!Everyone she started caring about abandoned her all at once!Yes including Ralsei!Castle Town is probably gone too!!Susie Weird Route!!!
>>574221684>Flowery trying to "crack his egg"This is the part that rubs me the wrong way. With this theory in mind Flowery goes from a well-meaning jerk to some kind of creep who tells Ralsei he's a girl because of a colored piece of paper.
>>574222186You can’t be left alive afterwards
>>574222197>"Wrong hole Kris..."
>>574222108I don't think that's going to be the explanation, anon. The world has moved since. Everyone's grown up and Asriel "left for college". Whatever the explanation for Hometown's isolation is, it didn't start that day because it started this week.Playing out the prophecy means the world ends or someone dies, at this point. The game isn't going to treat it like a good thing. There's a reason Ralsei prays for mercy for his friends
>>574222227The Susie is boss fight is for the normal route.
>>574222285I think it would be a good thing for Ralsei to be trans because there are not that many heterosexual women in the game and Ralsei would be a cute heterosexual woman for me to crush on.b
>>574222197>we will never get noelle's face sprites as a doomguy style portrait while we play her in a boomer shooter as she massacres everyone in the holiday house dark world culminating in a boss fight against kris and susiefuck this kusoge
Why does onionsan lose 5 iq points for each sentence he utters in chapter 1
>>574219519Your Kris is gonna get one-shot
noelle is a third positionist falangist marxist national socialist
>>574221720Rudy in his prime dressed like Freddy Mercury
>>574222515Gaster is fucking with his IQ in real time
>>574222306>>574222321Bad pair of messages
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QplQOcHdzQ
i love my boy ralsei
>>574222570>noelle is nazbolI'll believe it
>>574222425As they should be
>>574222425>Orange has as much milk as 22 rats
Goth princess Ralsei (male)
Are blind people immune to dark worlds, or always in one?
>>574222619you never been inspecting the backpasage and felt a blockage in the pipes?
>>574222465There are literally too many women in this game. 3/4 of the main characters would be female, that if Kris isn't Afab in your headcanon. I'm playing Deltarune, not Super Lesbian Animal RPG.
>>574222705noelle is a ringwraith?
>>574222717Blind people can't enter them because they have no observeble reality to imagine them. They are doomed lightner npcs
>>574222717They gain truesight, the puzzle at the start of the game says only eyes blinded by darkness can see here.
i wish i had a lake with cold water, they're lucky
NGL im buying hometown is a ghaster program theoryToo much weird stuff is happening in the last 2 chapter in Hometown to be considered anything normal
>>574222803A ringwraith with some very particular opinions about foreigners and the rights of laborers
>>574222776I think is just a difference in preference. I am very fond of women and would like to see more women from the game in Deltarune. Ralsei wearing dresses is very very cute.
>>574222715Now we're talking
>>574222803Thornring...
>>574222715this is more scene, but
Ralsei might as well be a tranny, I don't care. Crossdressers aren't cool and will never be cool, talk about instant -100 aura loss. He'll always be a laughingstock.
>>574222901The town's layout didn't make sense the moment you explore it in chapter 1. The alley way in particular is egregious because it exists in a space that should be occupied by the flower king/lake road even if you ignore all the empty space between areas or the singular road in and out of the town being permanently blocked.
>>574222901Hometown didn't exist before we were implanted into Kris. There was never an Asriel or Dess, and there's nothing beyond the trees, on the other side of the lake, or past the police tape.
>>574223029Crossdressing characters used to be more edgy and exciting, but now it's so associated with politics bs its ruined and boring
You don't have to be a woman to wear a dress though?
>>574223185Thats called drag, anon
>>574223029There there, anon. I think there are videogames that fit your preferences better. Garten of Banban might be more your speed
>>574223185Yes but you have to be a woman for me to think you are sexually attractive and cute/lovely.
My first cosplay, how do I look?
>>574223185Sorry anon. It's important that we reinforce gender roles as hard as we can and set back women 70 years.
>>574223078Sure im not saying it was perfect before but now for me atleast it just too much to be ignored in anyway>>574223150I dont know about thatIm just not sure if its some ghaster bullshit or something else
>>574223029Don't laugh at him, he will get hard.
>>574223276why does he look so sex in this .gif
>>574223296It's you! Flowery!
it's not too late to draw machiavelli had a 600 year head start dont be discouraged
>>574223339
>>574222901>>574223150God I hope they don't pull the everything is not real and it's all just a simulation bs type ending. Fucking tired of that type of ending just like in drv3 and It gonna ruin the whole game for me.
Glad chapter 5 put the meme about Toby hating Asgore to bed since that shit was stupid
>>574223389Exposed knees have this effect on some
>>574223235wasn't drag the post-ironic shit? that's why drags look like both the five dollar prostitute and the trucker that murdered them?i think we are actually going towards a transei here, not ralsei being a transvestite but trying to be a girl for someone.honestly: i hope kris commits susiecide before that shit goes real.
>>574223029You can be cool and in drag because it's independant of the crossdressing itself. A cool person is always cool and can make anything they do appear cool.
>>574223150Other way around, Hometown IS real but became non-real when you entered and you have to leave at the end for it to become real again
>>574223296Damn bro looks good ngl (its literally just a generic white dude but still)
>>574223517Anonchama...i...
>>574223296Can you move the mirror away I wanna see the one behind it
>>574223296Actually really nice
>>574223525its also the exposed thighs now that i think about it
>>574223669does generic apply to real people?
>>574223296better than your kishibe one
>>574223296You need to smile morez anon. Flowery wouldn't walk around with a scowl like that
>>574223296Post proof it's actually you, timestamp
>>574222717Berdly doesn't need glasses in the Dark World, and the cliffs has a plaque that says that only eyes blinded by darkness can see the way. I imagine blind people would get insane echolocation superpowers in a Dark World.
>>574223296like you scare children YUCK get some sleep and do some skincare
Ah, Raly, you look really drab! Try someJARONA
>>574221578Catty is a fat bitch but she probably has a monster virgin killer tier ass in booty jorts. Like instantly snap a niggas neck turning they head tier ass
>>574223550Drags are not ironic in the slightest, they do it because they like it
>>574223795i mean flowery is literally just a guy so
I'm sorry I've pizzarina'd (you). That guy is from reddit.
>>574223884what? are you afraid he's scaring away your dating pool?
>>574222932>>574223028French maid Ralsei
>>574223927Sounds like a commercial starring Flowery
>>574223296Creepy...
>>574223870raly getting stuck in his window…
>>574223296It's really nice! I'd say you look like Flowery if he stole cosplay pictures from Reddit.https://www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/1uxfnfk/first_attempt_at_flowery_cosplay_what_do_you_guys/
>>574223995that's why i mentioned the kishibe, google image search pulled it up instantlyalso you have learned nothing from toby's teachings, i condemn you to one thousand years undertale where you only kill papyrus
Does Flowery know that (We)'re driving Kris?
Yeah, nobody that hot uses /utg/.
>>574224001Dude fuck off. If you were capable of pulling anything you wouldn't be fishing for validation on 4chan
>>574224020He's got the whole gang doing it
>>574224139Speak for yourself, bub
>>574223947Catty has that instant destruction melt a nigga brain tier ass
>>574224139I wanted to give you hope or envy... idk.
>>574224020has he ever worn a maid dress in game? i cant remember
>>574224139>anon is letting the ugliness outside poison his/her heart
>>574223957you can be ironic and like things.i am fairly ironic but i don't need to be a faggot while doing so.not all things you enjoy need to be taken seriously to allow yourself something that you can't take seriously, because life is serious enough.does that make the drag more self-aware than the tranny? to know he's a clown, but enjoys being it?
I don't care if Ralsei is trans or not. It's a meaningless label and I'd still rape him regardless.
>>574224189Please kiss me. I'm fat and ugly and my breath smalls like herring.
>>574224139i am cute
I think Jevilstail should get the Buster TP DOWN effect too, it wouldn't be too op with its stats and would be a nice buff to counter weigh the power creep it got from recent armors
>>574223517>God I hope they don't pull the everything is not real and it's all just a simulation bs type endingHometown is almost definitely not the "real/original" hometown but if you think the takeaway is going to be "well none of this matters haha who cares?" then I think you've missed the core thesis of the series up to now. Most likely outcome is that hometown itself is a simulation (whether truly digital or some kind of Truman Show staged environment) but all the people inside are real. There is way way too much focus on "things being real (mattering) vs fake (not mattering)" and "oh well if you pretend to be something you become that something" for the end twist to be "hahaha fuck you for caring this was just a game inside a game retard"
>>574223995I had my doubts, I never believe pics unless there's a timestamp or some other blatant proof it's someone from hereThe guy was way too handsome to have been one of you fucks anyway
>>574224139i bet you're not even ugly.everybody can look decent if they use the right clothes, wash themselves properly and have a good body weight.Post your vessel
>>574224318I think chapter 1 equipment getting outclassed by chapter 5 is okay actually
>>574224143you're just lashing out because i revealed your strat.suck on a bonbon and calm down there, sugartits.
>>574224130He's slightly meta-aware, and he knows Kris is acting weird lately, but he doesn't know what their motivations are and doesn't seem to know what exactly the whole deal with the SOUL is. He just knows something's up, and that's enough for him to defend Asgore.
>>574224218God
Can anti-simulationfag explain this?
Sweet goat
>>574224465i feel like secret boss items should have a way to always be relevant. maybe an item fusion in the future
>>574224263Drag culture functionally started when Brit soldiers had time to kill entertaining themselves while dismantling the kraut war machine. Not only is it self aware, it's vaguely your fault too. Dressing up as girls existed before that, mind you, but that was the start of it being a "show" to watch.
>>574224139Speak for yourself https://files.catbox.moe/dzozf0.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1xHoUtagVA
>>574221774https://x.com/DailyDeltarune/status/1978155155443884305/
All kris needed was a gym membership to win the susiebowl.
In chapter 7 all of Hometown becomes a dark world so we can see Mettaton and Tenna make out with each other and Catti and Ramb bond over Kris hating them
>Kris, why did you give my TV to that weird neighbor? your response?
>>574224465To be fair, Jevilstail gets outclassed by armor in Chapter 2. It took three whole chapters for us to get armor that has more defense than Dealmaker, by comparison.
>>574224517No. They will keep tying themselves to the tracks and making ultimatums, though, because they are stupid bitches
>>574224704because it was perfectly functional and you said you were gonna throw it out and that guy was like hey if you've got anything interesting you don't need i'd love to have it
>>574224517It's a CRT screen because Side B (not to be confused with B Side which is the weird route) is set in the past
Jevilstail is good. How many armors boost attack, defense and magic simultaneously?
>>574224648Is Susie into muscles?
>>574224517Just because we're interfacing with the world of Deltarune through a device doesn't mean the world isn't real in-universe
well we already have the shadow mantle that scales its armor with every chapter so why not other important secret items ?especially since those items are able to still be obtained through different saves through the hole in castle town, why make it so weak if I can transfer it to a chapter 7 file?at least I hope we could upgrade it with malius or something
Susie isn't even muscly, she's just country girl burly
>>574224517that is for (you) not the characters in the game since you already perceive everything as a game
>>574224130He seems to know something is "off" with Kris and the dialogue >>574224475 posted is definitely supposed to mirror noelle's weird route dialogue. It's important to remember that the point in this series is not, and has never been up to this point, that "this is all a video game." The "game-y" elements of these worlds is just how the worlds work. I think if just about everything including menus and saving have clear diagetic explanations and observable effects it stands to reason that we too actually do have a diagetic counterpart and means of controlling the soul that has yet to be revealed and I think the 5B ending is a massive hint towards that idea.
>>574224704Hapstablook lets me watch the sexy music videos with him and gives me ghost juice.
>>574224905Biblically accurate Susie
>>574224858If you're interfacing with a real world you don't need to insert new data to see it, let alone data that's already pre-labeled Chapter 7. It implies Chapter 7 already exists, which means it can't be in real time. Accept it
>>574224642>jjkspicCringe
>>574224997>kris/noelle wanted to get fucked by THIS?
>>574224997In all seriousness, it's weird how different her art is from the demo to today. People used to draw her chubby or frumpy with freckles, now shes just muscle girl
>>574224517that depends on what you mean by simulation, because that's clearly the crt monitor hooked up to the DEVICE that connects you to the world of Deltarune but that doesn't mean the whole thing is a simulation it just means we went out of bounds of the actual device. well i mean like the prophecy is literally simulated it's all part of the experiment we are simulating the experiment... ughhh this is confusing!!! what the fuck is "simulationfag" what does that mean explain yourself!!!
>>574224465>>574224889sorry forgot to quote
>>574224914The vast majority of deltarune players wouldn't play deltarune on crt, I hope Toby understands that.
>>574224905She doesn't even eat proper food, there's not gonna be an ounce of muscle in her body and her bones are probably easy to notice
>>574224997This artstyle is violating my eyes
>>574225073She has that animal magnetism
>>574224592>maybe an item fusion in the futureI wouldn't be against this, but it's simply the nature of games with scaling stats. I like the jevilstail sure but I need better armor at some point it is what it is
>>574224997She looks like Susie's dad.
>>574224517We are connected to the world of Deltarune via Gaster's machines. This does not mean within the fiction of the world that Deltarune is fake. This is just a meta look at the screen connecting us to Deltarune through which we see their world. >>574225029Imagine you're watching a DVD of their world. The entire history of it us already recorded from the outside so you can can skip to any part of it but the contents of the DVD are still real recordings a reality.
>>574224263drags, troons, and femboys are essentially the same shit and the only difference is level of delusion. so it would be drag queens being the most rational with trannies being the most deluded. none of this really applies to deltarune of course, ralsei is feminine because of toby's personal preference (i would guess) and because he means to be servile, adorable, and likable, which are stereotypically feminine traits
>>574224592The problem with secret boss item fusions is that combining the Dealmaker/PuppetScarf with the Devilsknife/Jevilstail would create an unholy Spamvil fusion because they are literally their boss items
>>574225246No, you're thinking of Barny
>>574224997I mean it with complete and utter sincerity when I say this is the hottest version of Susie I've ever seen. Fucking WIFE with 3 KIDS and a MORTGAGE right NOW
>>574225095Musclegirl Susie has always been a thing, what are you on about?
>>574224593THIS will never not be funny to me.millions died so that men could play dress-up in the vacuum of their fathers that died valiantly in service of their country.pathetic.
>>574224817+2 on everything, which is 2 times less than yellowhat with +4 on everything AND %20 boost on all spells. so jevil is really cucked with his items for some strange reason..
what's up with these cousins
susie if she human
>likable>ralsei
>>574224963It's the device, we control the soul via the deviceThis also means the soul isn't (You), it is its own entity with ideas and plans that we aren't even privy to. While we have some control over and can enable the soul, it's kinda doing its own thing on the Weird Route.
>>574224889>well we already have the shadow mantle that scales its armor with every chapter so why not other important secret items ?Yeah but the shadow Mantle is clearly extra special for a lot of reasons>especially since those items are able to still be obtained through different saves through the hole in castle townThe main thing there is getting the shadow crystals. Getting the item associated with the boss makes it clear which bosses youve beaten and how you beat them. Not everything is about the numbers anon
>>574225110NTA, but see >>574225029If you're connecting to a world in real time why is Chapter 7 already named onscreen?>>574225281So it's a copy of a world, being simulated. That doesn't make it not a simulation
>>574225375What did Toby put in his game that turns his fans into renaissance artists
>>574225474It's morally good to bully people if they're annoying
>>574225474Rats dipped in Fanta don't count
>>574225474Making fun of toddlers is based
>>574225482>Not everything is about the numbers anon
orange you glad I don't say jarona?
>>574225549Scrimblos and blorbos quirky enough to attract the art autists
>>574225148I play on a big plasma TV that's old enough to be considered outdated and retro at this point. They don't even make plasmas anymore. I played the chapter 1+2 demo on my computer which does have a late model nearly HD resolution CRT and the game doesn't look particularly good on it the same way actual classic games do.
>>574225549Love
Kinda autismo question, but beside literal decompiling game is there a way to see everything interactable and changed interaction somehow during a playthrough?
>>574225640Kicking Jevil's ass proves that he is wrong>I can do anything!No the fuck you cannot, clown, now give me your goddamn knife
>>574225475>It's the device, we control the soul via the deviceWell yes I agree that's likely not what IS the device? Why are we able to see the layer it exists on now but not in Undertale? My computer is not hooked up to a CRT in a dark room with saws whirring, so where is that person whose perspective we switch to? Where is it and how did they get there? Will we get to control that person, is it who we named? >This also means the soul isn't (You)Obviously>the soul, it's kinda doing its own thing on the Weird Route.Completely unfounded, we are acting out kris's intrusive thoughts and violent nature on the weird route to the end of "getting stronger" and "seeing past the dark" and failing.
THIS BODY CANNOT BE KILLED
>>574225350When survey program first came out and fanart rolles out, Susie was largely drawn as strong chubby, not ultra muscular
>>574225717There's the wiki's code viewer and Hushbugger's text dump if you don't want to decompile the game yourself
>>574225474the flowers fucking sucked and so he is more than justified in this
>>574225807>mad crash test dummy
>>574225706It’s a shame some “fans” don’t return the sentiment
>>574225337There's something about the look of this particular Susie that tells me she'd be extra devoted as a friend and spouse, if a bit smelly
>>574225640>surely the insane murderous clown who thinks being locked in a tiny room is "real freedom" is a reliable narratorAnon I....>>574225807So weird that Jevil sees all of reality as a game and himself as the enlightened one who "can't be killed" and who "can do anything" idk why that sounds so familiar
>>574225482yeah but still every single secret item is bustedDealmaker is still one of the best items stats wise and the money effect and cat resistance will make it still relevant for future chapterShadowmantle and Blackshard are obviously important items for the storyJusticeAxe is Susie's best weapon by farand the flower items are obviously end game armorso why is jevil the only one not relevant? it feels strange in a way I hope he can at least have the busterdown effect because it would give you a reason to still use it, it wouldn't be op and change your playstyle a little which is nice.
its gonna be annoying if ralsei does get a big cool boss fight in 6/7 and more people hop on and start liking him idk how to explain it but it would feel fake
>>574225864will look it up thanks
Deltarune is Gaster's experimentThere are two people that works with him.Idk what to think of that
>>574225291Ralsei is feminine because he's a softboy like Toby himself and also he was based on an RPGmaker character made after him
i will start working out for fave.i also played some more piano while i was away.
>>574226012Not really, it's all building up to it, him learning to let his emotions loose and not five a fuck about rules
>>574225523>why is Chapter 7 already named onscreen?because specific events and areas are dictated as the starting and ending points of specific sections (chapters) of the survey_program experiment, it's taking advantage of the fact that the prophecy has key points that always have to happen no matter whatthe fact that you're flipping chapter 7 to side B in weird route implies experimental data is held in there, most likely a modification of the original chapter 7. this doesn't really seem all that confusing to me, of course the data is already there, it's always been already there, we've got save and loading since chapter 1 which already implies an ability to modify and fuck around with the world of deltarune, so like this doesn't change much beyond telling us side B is not escaping the experiment. i guess you could define that as a "simulation" but it's not like it's not actually happening, otherwise modifying any data with save and load would always result in the same events and same dialogue and you wouldn't be able to do stuff like beat the shit out of the knight early in ch3 since it wouldn't be data that has been created yet
>>574226012Buy Ralsei stocks now while they are cheap.
>>574225963Jevil is right though, he's the only free one and everyone else locked themselves into their roles while he remains outside the narrative
>>574225963The point is that Jevil isn't wrong in his words...
How much smellier now...?MyFartypoo
To think one day the artists of today would be studied and admired by scholars in the future and would be classified as a revolutionary art movement. it's hilarious that the potential Leonardo or Davinci equivalent of today has a non zero chance of drawing deltarune porn.
>>574226183
>>574226471>To think one day the artists of today would be studied and admired by scholars in the future and would be classified as a revolutionary art movementLmaoYou wish
>>574226139That is complete bullshit, anon. You can visit most of Hometown in Chapter 1. The only new locations added were the Library Computer Room in Chapter 2 and the Church and the Manor in Chapter 4. Chapter 7 already existing means we're not connecting to a world. We're just inserting ourselves into a recording and changing it. It's a simulation
>>574226337>he's le free because he's irrelevant to the storyHoly, imagine how fucking free Asriel must be
>weird route is about Kris and Noelle breaking out of the simulation and stabbing gaster on the face just like foreshadowed in the chapter 3 mini game with hero_sword
>>574219603>im going to crashout worse than carolanon when she learned her art is trashFucking lmao
>>574226007>so why is jevil the only one not relevant? it feels strangeTo be totally fair if toby wanted us to keep the jevilstail forever he's has time to adjust the game so that jevilstail scales of just has straight up higher stats from chapter 3 onwards or something. I think the childish and juvenile clown with a tainted view of the world (and whose narrative relevancy is becoming clearer as we learn more about the story) producing the most quickly outclassed equips might have some meta narrative relevance, but either way we're spoiled for choice on good equipment at this point
>>574225291>drags and femboys are the samei disagree, but i like how your oversimplification will piss off doomer.so, please repeat this falsehood often enough until it becomes the truth.
wtf was that shuriken if it made ralsei willing to pull out the big guns to incinerate it?
>>574226653In the original timeline Susie dies right there she gets sawed in half it was insane
>>574226551Asriel isn't free he's trapped in the story of Undertale. We gotta get him out of there, he is all alone and scared.
>>574226507that's what they told Picasso but oh well. also Hitler did disney snow white fanart, not completely confirmed sure, but the implication is still funny
>>574220540Other than the anons that saw carolanon crash out live
>>574226551Yeah that's what freedom is when the thing keeping everyone prisoner is the story itself. Same reason why Undertale must end when the characters go free.
What is the meaning of the forgotten man island if Deltarune isn't a simulation/hackrom?
>they’re STILL doing this
>>574226601>>574226785I didn't see that but I did see the 80+ posts that were deleted samefagging seethe about her. care to comment on that?
The item you get from Seam aside from the Pure Crystal will be fuseable with the Jevil equipment to make an endgame-worthy weapon or armor
>>574226649Actually if you wanted to piss me off all you have to do is parrot the tree ralsei theory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4vvV3tBGbg
>>574226012I fear that the gender discourse has overshadowed everything interesting about Ralsei. He could have the coolest bossfight or the most awesome emotional moment in the game, but if he "came out" in the same chapter, that'll be the only thing people care about.
>>574226471>Leonardo or Davinci
>>574226515Wouldn't the toriel household have AC?>>574226773>that's what they told Picasso but oh wellThey were right to do so. His work is shit
I AM THIRD WHEELINGINCARNATE
>>574226627that's a very fair point sadly...still I would have loved an equipable item to make Rude Buster better, I really hope with purified shadow crystal we can upgrade one equipment that would be neat and relevant with the lost and shattered dream theme being setup..
>>574227070>>574227070>>574227070Hop on
>>574226337>>574226354If you truly believe this then you've really missed the point of all of this. There is no "game" in the context of that universe. Seeing the world as a game you can manipulate is not "enlightenment" in Undertale and Deltarune, it's mania. Jevil is objectively not free despite his own beliefs, he is quite literally coping with his situation by lying to himself.
>>574226932Lol it’s not our problem anons don’t like your artschizo
>>574224997This Susie is OFF-MODELthe REAL susie is actually kinda a bit awkward-shaped, like she's a bit stringy. susie is too malnourished to actually be fit, and she's very obviously not round/square, she's just very large for her age group and has learned to throw that weight around to scare her peers.
Not a single moment of peace...
>>574226471>Leonardo or DavinciIs that you Jeremy
>>574227115>carolanon whenever a thread artist is more popular than her slopGenius
>>574226998>yeah it was so cool when Ralsei went Omega and turned into a fucking Baphomet to incinerate three titans at once before turning against Kris for starting the Roaring, and it was great how the boss battle was hopeless unless we outlasted him getting turned to stone>BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY RALSEI IS A GIRL, CHAPTER ONE THEORYCRAFTERS ARE SO HECKIN VALIDATED YAAAAS
>>574227104All you said it's your headcanon, I hope you understand that. You're also lying to yourself if you are sure that there is no "game" in universe.
>>574226998yeah this is the biggest reason why i hope it doesn’t happen. of course i understand there isn’t actually any proof it will and it’s all projection but there’s always a chance toby wants to pander
>>574225351>Die defending freedom>No you can't use you freedom like that.Also because of how age demographics track to voting. It was almost certainly the people who surived fighting WWII who chose to elect the people who would federal legalization homosexuality.Young people never vote at the same rate as old people and thr children of WWII soldiers would be hust passing the threshold of being able to vote by the late 60s.
