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Informat level 10!?
>>574218714She is very good at her job.
My cute and beautiful and fluffy and warm daughterwife Mini!
Temperature is fine. Whelp. Time to do this LoC editing Tutorial.
>>574218858I fucking love birds. Chirps, Harpies, Quetzals, all of them.
So in this tutorial, we are going to learn how to edit the LoC script so you can manipulate the drops and the effects you gain from gear.Three things first:>You need RPG Maker VX Ace (Unfortunately I don't have a link for it)>You need to have the decrypter so you can decrypt the game>I'm not exactly a professional of scripts.>Our current blogpost shouldn't be reading this, so I'll spoiler the pics.First things first here are the two important places. The Database, and the where the enchantments are.Yes, Enchantments are in Classes. From at 1501 to 4659, even discounting the big blanks, that's a lot. 5001 to 5189 are for the Collab Characters gears.I suggest you get in there and familiarize yourself with the menus, especially the classes.Use Google Translate or something else to be able to translate things.
>>574199323She’s just so great!I Love Reina!Lucretia (Queen Harpy) also having the willpower to waste turns telling you to run or apologize was also really nice detail; you’ll save her eventually so don’t worry!
>>574221551Around when do I get to the world tree? Is it in part 2?
>>574221257Next, we are going to attack the script in itself.> #秘武器の所持数上限> WEAPON_MAX_ITEM_NUMBER = 1000This is the number of maximum Chaos Weapons you can have in your inventory. > #秘防具の所持数上限> ARMOR_MAX_ITEM_NUMBER = 2000This is the number of maximum Chaos Armors you can have in your inventory. > #各能力値の基礎算出式 nが武器防具データベースで設定された数値 rがレア変数の値> BASE_PARAM = "n+n/1000*r"> #装備能力の分散度> VARIANCE = 20Thoses are useless for what we are about to do, but in essence, they are here to calculate the enchantments you get.> #強化値の最大値> MAX_PLUS_NUM = 9999999This is the maximum + a gear can have. Needless to say unless you edit things, you will never see a +9999999. > PLUS_UP_PRICE = "p*10000"This is the price of enhancement. It start off at 10000, but with every +, 10000 gold is added to the price.
>>574221739It’ll be in Part Two yeah. Reina will be a great help for you throughout the game though, she’s pretty invaluable for helping with buffs or statuses and she benefits very well from (thing you don’t need to worry about yet).Besides the obvious support job though training her in the feral child job for the racial damage bonuses is pretty fun too. I always wished a job like that was around for the original part one or two and it’s a fun as I was hoping it would be.
>>574221257isn’t this defeating the entire point of the labrynthwell, I guess it’s at least something interested even if I don’t care about it
In paradox, does equiping a preparation skill make the respective booster skills activate regardless of not having the specific weapon equiped?For example, if I equip youkai preparation, which gives compatibility bonuses for katanas, clubs and scytes, will it make club booster 30% trigger even if I equip a weapon other than a club?
>>574221257>>574222037From 28 to 138, we are talking about Rare Points and the drops. Rare Points dictate what you will get. In other words, once you are very deep into the LoC touch> 25000..30000=>{Meaning, you will mostly get +38 gears.Next we will get into the meat of the thing.>>574223154I went autistic, and someone wanted me to post it.Plus at one point, even if you go maxed stats with hacked gear, you will not be able to do shit against bosses, due to how big the leap of stats and HP is.It was at this point I decided that I may as well have fun.
>>574223691AFAIK it’s for the part of the skill itself where the weapon equipped determines a damage bonus. So spear skills do +50% of you have a spear equipped. Having, say, Harpy’s Preparation would make whatever weapon equipped count as a spear so you always have that bonus.
Is Maid supposed to have an ability that buffs job exp? I don't see it anywhere.
>>574223691Yes, think of preperations as equipping an invisible weapon of that type. On a side note in part 3 the weapon boosters now have a much broader range of coverage and boost weapon types it's similar too like swords and katanas or clubs and axes.
>>574221257>>574222037>>574224254This is where the magic start. And where you will actually need to edit things.短剣 mean Dagger, in other words, this is where Enchantments for dagger are stored. Each weapon and armor type have their own category. This include Collab gear too.The numbers dictate what enchantment you will get, with how much luck you can have them.So, 1502 is 防御力ボーナス・武器, which is <接頭:Solid><防御力ボーナス \e[29]> which is a bonus of defense depending of how far you are.Butt we don't want probability. So we will get below.2719 to 2728 are for Enchants that boost precise skills. We will ignore that.3007 to 3300 are for Collab gear. So 3007 # ラルス・剣 is, helpfully, Lars' Sword.
>>574226106The intermediate and advanced maid jobs do
>>574226106When you max the intermediate job it gives an equippable passive for it.
>>574221257>>574222037>>574224254>>574226375At 3307 and 6246 you are at # ■ NWConst::Wepon and # ■ NWConst::Armor.This is where the enchants, or rather, the pools, are decided.I will use one of my experiments as an example. 2213 # 重鎧/Heavy Armor.>Heavy Armor> 2701..2706=>{ :enchant_count =>2..3, :display_color => 1, :not_prefix => 0, 1..30000 =>{ :enchants => [141], :socket=>{3=>100},2701..2706 is about the number of Rare Points, so if you are between 2701 ot 2706, this is what you will get.enchant_count is the number of enchants the item will have, in this case 2 or 3. The more Rare Points you have, the more max enchants the item can have.display_colo and not_prexif aren't important.enchants are where the "pool" of enchants are picked. This is the important part. CTRL+F 141, and you will have the enchant pool, the more Rare Points you have, the more pools the item will have.socket is the number of sockets for gems the item will have, in this case, it will always have 3 sockets.So what you need to do, is to find how much Rare Points you got, and decide where to edit, what, and how to and modify it.Heavy Armor at max Rare Points is originally this, but after modification, it's this. This mean that the gear type you will get will ONLY pick the pool 141.But this isn't over yet. We need to take a look at the pool 141.
>>574221257>>574222037>>574224254>>574226375>>574228909Originally, the pool 141 look like this. After modification, it look like this.What you need to do with each type of gear you want to modify is find them, modify the :enchants => to only one pool, and finally, modify the pool so it only gives you the that enchants you want.2214; 141 => {4645 => 1, 2537 => 1, 2538 => 1, 1649 => 1, 1802 => 1},In other words 4645, Seal of Gilgamesh. 2547, -90% MP Cost. 2538, -90% SP Cost. 1649; Heroism Booster. 1802, Crisis Stat, if you are curious. This is basically what you want on Luka.I hope this guide helped people, or maybe motivate people to make a better, deeper guide.Some stuff for the roadYou can actually modify the max number of Enchants. You just need to find the :enchant_count => for the type of gear, and modify it. I don't think anyone would be autistic enough to put everything on a piece of geat, but it will probably lag the game hard. Normally, the max number of enchant is 4..5, again, you can modify it so you can always get 5... or more.You can modify the + of the gears you will obtain, you just need to modify the 28 to 138 script, precisely the 36=>40 , 37=>40 , 38=>20, depending on how much Rare Points you have. It cannot be above 9 999 999, the game will cash upon obtaining a +10000000 or something.You can just modify MAX_PLUS_NUM = 9999999, but it might cause problems down the line.The maximum stats it can have is 100.000 Tril. If you are deep enough in LoC, and it's easy to do modified or not, those stats won't help much at all, even while using Ex-tuple Giga.This actually mean that +100% in stats are useless, unless Trtr boost the limit later on.As an aside, I find it darkly amusing how Chaos is actually a weak character on the long term, since she doesn't have crisis lmao.I think that's all. Have fun.
>>574231195>The maximum stats it*The maximum stats youI Chi Pa Pa'd.
Dog girls
>>574231907>tfw you say walkies and she bounces around the house barking like a retard that was just offered nuggies.I miss my kelpie dude...
>succ hot>i'm hard
>>574224549>>574226264After testing it seems that preparation skills do indeed allow you to benefit from the boosters for all the weapons they cover, however they can't be stacked in the same category. I tested with angel preparation, which gives compatibility for swords, spears and bows, and sword and spear boosters, both of which boost sword skills. Both of them boosted my sword skills regardless of the equipped weapon, however they can't be stacked, equipping sword booster 50% and spear booster 50% will still result in a 50% boost for sword skills, not 100%, it seems to just consider the highest boost in any given category rather than add them up
>>574234760Super. Hot. Super. Hot.Succu. Hot. Succu. Hot
>>574234760>evil killHoly BASED
>>574234760>Hell level>Yeah fine.Kek. Sounds like a character is getting sick of his day job.
>>574235159So xan baldurs gate?
>>574217290Just asking again, is there anything else I was supposed to find?
>>574235230bg3 had such cute monster girls.
>>574236719I implore you to try the originals
>>574236719>modern westoid "style" with mannish faces and flat chests>"cute"
>>574234760>kanade murder random constantly>Kanon used succs ass deep seriously>shiki that's talking best cute funny succubusSuccubus defenders, what do you have to say about this? Apparently kanade constantly murders at random. Kanon used the ass of succubi. The best shikis are the cute and funny ones. >harpy around human kind made villageBased harpies. As usual.
I wish shrift wasn't the only smt inspired monster girl game
They put luka in drag and called it a dayThey also shoved alt chrome into a locker and called it a day. What a wimp
>>574239474>they put luka in dragThey know their audiance
>>574237423Strong jaw, strong woman. Are you afraid?
>>574235391naythat anon was just pointing out that the clean freak scene was just a memorable one I guess
>>574217290A clean freak is certainly a way to say he is a super nice guy.
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The underground brothel was surprisingly normal, I was bracing myself for another botanic garden but it's just a regular monster brothel where the males have apparently rather good working conditions and pay, the only caveat is that you can get mindbroken by too much monster pussy but you can quit at any time so it's only a problem if you're a retard. Minagi has turned out to be quite the reasonable individual which I wasn't expecting at all from the succubus ancestorKagetsumugi however remains as creepy and terryfiying as ever, rip Morrigan
>>574245863>KagetsumugiAbsolute peak mentioned. One of the best characters in the series.
>>574246394I didn't expect allat when she appeared in the collab
>>574246394> kills paradox promstien and some ancestors off screen> and then dies off screenI have to imagine something different happens for her in the third route
>>574251552Gehehehehahahahahahahahhaha!
>>574251552Did you miss out on the 100% pure undiluted Kagetsumugi kino that was in Angel World route?
>>574234760>monster girls feel betterBased
Maybe the real monsters where girls all along...
>>574235391>waits in the middle of the room as a "coincidence">"coincidentally" knows everything you need to deal with and how>cleans your house>tunes your piano>refuses to elaborate>leaves
>>574234760>cute funny succubusThinking about it, there aren't as many of those as I'd like.
You wouldn't fuck a doll
>>574264641I don't know who "You" is, but he sounds like a homo.
>>574264641>implying choice
>>574264641I hecking love dolls.
How much of Part 3 is translated?
>>57427006480% of AW route. 80% of MW route. Less than 1% of Final Route. Overall around 25-30% of the game is translated. There's an edited MTL translation up that's good enough if you're okay with it.
>Overall around 25-30% of the game is translated.
>decide to check for MGQ fanfics>exclude crossovers (most aren't actually crossovers)>exclude the "original character" tag>most fanfics are still about a self-insert OC going through the game
>>574279525There are so many NPCs that say one or two thing that never get seen again, but I wonder if a good writefag would ever just pick any one of them and think "wait what would this person have actually gone through to be there saying that"
Parts 1 and 2 are filler
>>574279525Welcome to writers purposely not tagging their shit correctly to avoid getting filtered/blacklisted
>>574279525You would think with the MGQ universe expanding so much with Paradox, writers would stop copy pasting the VN.
>>574237932>The best shikis are the cute and funny ones.Might as well just all of them succ.
You know, for as many, many, many problems as CoC2 has, at least it understands how to do sex scenes in an erotic battle game unlike every "monster girl" game discussed here (not sure if it counts as a monster girl game, but then again, fucking SHRIFT does): You lose, you get fucked, you win, you fuck, with no ifs, ands, or buts. Yeah, it executes it poorly, but at least it understands something that basic. It even lets you keep sex slaves (eventually and not nearly enough (as I said: poor execution)).
>>574282659A good game doesn't need to cater to everyone. It's not wrong to make a game where you're exclusively the sub or exclusively the dom.
>>574282659>at least it understands how to do sex scenes in an erotic battle gameNope.
>>574282659>not sure if it counts as a monster girl game, but then again, fucking SHRIFT doesI mean... demons are pretty monstrous.I will say that I like how the whole inspiration behind Barghest was that the dev's favorite monster in MGQ only had a crappy cut-in instead of a full scene
>>574282659I talk about it from time to time anon, its just that not many others talk about it. Love Kiyoko
>>574284635I never tried it because it seems to have too much of that Western stink, is it actually any good
>>574283261It is often better content wise if you stick to a few niches.When you expand the net to wide, a game can quickly feel like it doesn't have enough of whatever. Unless you're an insane Japanese autist who makes a 200hr game with over 800 characters in 25 year old RPGMaker.>>574282659Prime example of something so slow it may as well be vaporware that spends an entire year on an update for random whatever that only has niche appeal that probably isn't even for the main audience who cares.Too much time spent on way too much writing for shit no one cares about when the basic game interface could generously be described as "bad flash game from 20+ years ago".I think there comes a point where someone's been doling out a dripfeed of slop for patreon bux for SO long that it actually feels "normal".
>>574282659>>574284635>>574284810I have to imagine the balance would best be described as55% futa, 30% straight, 15% gay, with a random assortment of how furry or not the characters are, while the game is aggressively trying to force events and items on you to turn you into a furry futa Donut Steele abominationIt tries too hard to omnipander when frankly 95% of the players just want futa anyway
>>574285302And the devs are loathsome and pathetic.
>>574284810It honestly really depends on you, I like the writing for the most part and don't mind walls of text, you can also go the entire game if you want without having sex and no one is forced on you if you don't want them, you can also kill some characters if you want and there is a good bit of pregnancy. But it does have a fair bit of futa and furries, but again, you're not forced to have sex with anything unless you lose the battles>>574285302Its actually fairly easy to avoid transforming into anything
>>574285302If anything, the problem is that the other characters are furry guta Donut Steel abominations.
>>574284810If you can tolerate furries, hypercock and sometimes futas, you're still better off playing the first one.CoC2 feels like was made from the ground up as a way to squeeze patreon bucks using the first game's name for attention, whereas the original started as simple yet interesting concept that then became a group effort on Patreon.Everything is more complex but also worse. The illustrations are in concept the only improvement.Things feel more half-baked than in the original, the plot and the characters don't feel any more memorable despite the game spending far more text describing them. While CoC1's narration was brief if amateurish until requests by Patreon donors obviously forced the creator to meet some word quota, CoC2 just wastes so many paragraphs in every scene but only manages to drag on without making you invested.>>574284635The kitsune plot is the best and also the worst part. Just one guy made an insane content island that's nothing but kitsunes and not-japan politics and family drama. I commend the man's fixation, opinion on quality aside, but it's so poorly implemented as part of the world that it should've been its own game.
finished grinding classes and got back on track, Air Superiority just turns off bosses. Victoria has been carrying as of late.
>>574286687>The kitsune plot is the best and also the worst part. Just one guy made an insane content island that's nothing but kitsunes and not-japan politics and family drama. I commend the man's fixation, opinion on quality aside, but it's so poorly implemented as part of the world that it should've been its own game.Personally, I enjoyed it and a lot of other parts in game, I think the worst part of II is the lack of communication by the devs on what gets added or not, some things have been waiting to be added for literal years and quite a few areas feel sparse
>>574283261Funny, considering I've seen quite a few sub games that present themselves as generic to maximize patreon cash.
>>574282659There was that one time Luka tried to fuck. Then it went horribly, horribly, wrong.
>>574287823He really should just fuck girls who try that, with his actual sword instead!
>>574288064He did that once, in a lost, long dead timeline.He got to stay in Heaven with Ilias for all eternity for it too.
>>574288307Good ending for using common sense!
>>574285302Bruh, I WISH we could actually turn into a Donut Steele abomination. If CoC is know for something it is the transformations. But no, you can't turn yourself into Black Alice. Matter of fact, there's no point in trying to transform into anything: It doesn't affect combat in any way, last time I checked there's like one interaction in the entire game in which having wings matter, most transformations other than the genital ones only affect some dialogue and your description. They don't even have some avatar to show how your character changes. Just a wall of text. Like, I'm not a game dev, but considering there character creation games most likely made by kids on newgrounds that old enough to drink, drive, vote and have sex in at least most countries, I imagine it shouldn't be too hard for a game with that many people working on it to add one.
>>574288508Laziness if the name of the game at Fenoxo.
>>574284023Look, if I beat a rapist wolf bitch in a fuck or get fucked game, I don't want her to just fade away, I don't want a "would you like to lose" option, I don't want an "you fuck her but you lose a life/your becomes more sensitive/you now lose to furry feet/lose time in a game where time matters" option. I want a "you plow that bitch" option. Shame that apparently a game that understands that is a game where sex scenes are a wall of text, but matter of fact is it understands it.
>>574289987It understood it. For a time, now it doesn't.
>>574289987What you said is correct anon, you understand well, the jap model of losing to PLAY THE GAME sucks
>>574288508>Not enough weapon variety>Not enough armor variety>Not enough race variety>Very little if any racial skills>Can only equip 4 skills at a timeIt honestly doesn't even hold up to the first game in terms of customization.
>>574288508Some transformations matter. Like if you turn into a centaur you get a lot of different unique scenes and a unique combat attack.
>>574282659The original CoC was hotter, desu. Mainly because it wasn't 90% hyperporportion futa like coc2 and tits.
>>574291858There's a reason why it's still modded to this day. Slowly yes, but still modded.
>>574282659>fucking SHRIFT doesIf demon women don't fall under the category of monster girl i don't know what does
>>574291858It's also a product of the times. We are used to actual artwork, especially with the advent of AI gen, so who the fuck cares about "immersive" text slop with bad writing?I just realized that's another reason for lgbt to seethe about AI. It can't understand donut steel's frankenstein anatomy.
>>574292389Please never respond to my post again, retard.
>>574292389Cute Adra.
>>574292869She is hotter than her sister.
>>574285302The space game was better but it was way heavier on the futa, I felt.
>>574290347That wolf girl is from CoC2, anon.>>574292389Why is that not a bad thing for us again?
>>574293382Yeah, and too little defutaing. There are tons of characters that have an option of "attatch a cock" let me detach some too its only fair
>>574293420>That wolf girl is from CoC2, anon.Yes, I know, and my point is still there.
>>574293420Alice's mom is hotter than her daughter. he also did no deserve a new form.Alice I form is ugly in a great way. This scream final boss!
>>574293382Problem is it has a Baby's First Flash Game level UI, sluggish, ugly, poor at conveying information.>>574293382>>574293586Better to just have a different game, than a sprinkle of omnipandering slop.
>>574293586>*Remember Amazon Cow girl*>*They added a dick because*>*because fuck me and you*
>look away>look back>thread has devolved into terrible takes and ugly + bad gamesI await that offline gacha archive storytime from anon on the basis it must be better and can certainly not be worse than any of this shit
>>574292389>anyone who dislikes ai must be a trannyrent fucking free
>>574293898How, you beat her you fuck her, with no drawbacks. And she's far from the only one.>>574294010That's because she's one... AND an expy of one.
>>574295635desu Final Ilias is Neo-Exdeath (the original one that’s just the never-ending mass of monsters and organs going off the screen), but i guess I can’t think of what else that Alice could be either. It’s probably a FF reference of some kind still.
>>574295635>That's because she's one... AND an expy of one.I guess that's something she had in common with Ilias? I didn't even think of Neo Exdeath since Ilias in the previous game did it.
>>574295635My point was, she's one of the few who are like that, which is a rarity since most of the games are futas, furries, and/or femdoms.
>>574234760>need harpies>harpy around humankind made village>reina true / reina strong
>>574295891Final Ilias reminds me more of Safer Sephy, except with tentacles instead of wings.
>>574296679There's no similarity at all beyond angelic and final boss... He's just a torso, with 1 wing arm, and 6 wings as a lower body. He doesn't have any other weird body going on.
I wish paradox had the jump skill for lancers
>>574296058I mean, yeah, there are a lot of futas and furries, but you also have, the harpies, the female orcs, the rabbit girls, the female elves, the manticore milf, the fox girls, the mercenary with the chastity belt, the bee girls, that witch with the femboy fetish, the female satyrs... Not exactly a lot, but rarity is a strong word.
>>574297684It's a rarity. Notice how those you named are lacking by comparison.>the foxThey are lower than shit.
>>574296967As I said, tentacles instead of wings: Final Ilias is just a torso with 1 tentacle arm, and tentacles for lower body (and 2 wings that she already had).
>>574297684>theres not THAT much futaAnon you are not winning on this hill. I played the game. I know how much futa there is, and its a lot
>>574298126Strawmanning or bad reading comprehension?I quite literally admitted there's a lot of futas.
>>574298368Nta but you literally say there's a lot of futas and furries but. The but implying that the rest is more or better than futas and furries combined. It's not.
>>574297916Fair enough.
Reading through more of the monster girl stories, the Sandworm Girl’s was surprising hilarious>protag walks up to her because he hears she doesn’t have many friends and wants to help>she wakes up and waves cheerfully, happy someone would visit her since a lot of people “forgot she exists”>overjoyed she goes to hug him>hugs a rock>turns out she’s almost blind>protag calls her over and asks what why she doesn’t get many visitors, since people think she’s “mythical”>well she lives in an arid desert, but she hasn’t seen her friends in a while either>she overslept one day and was late to their meeting, and she hasn’t been able to find them, and she’s worried that they’re mad>well, if you just overslept, surely it can’t just be that right?>well a lot can happen in ten years>what?>I overslept>I overslept for ten years>ten years?!>she was mythical because no one could find her and they thought she died because she didn’t have an alarm clock and skipped a decade>that’s not good>….but have you tried moving?>apparently she tried to build a villa but it got caught up in a natural disaster>protag says he’ll help introduce her in a different area and maybe she can get out more and make new friends>overjoyed, she runs to hug the protag>immediately runs into a rock (because she’s almost blind)>third time she finally hugs him for real>it puts her so at ease to finally hug him that she starts to fall asleep>I can’t stay, you’ll have to let me go>one year is normal time right? Just one year>LET ME GO>sandworm girl falls over>AAA>ends up trapped for the night because her grip is too strong>she later travelled to his house for a cultural exchange, where she discovered what “furniture” was, that many beings sleep in beds, and then freaks out because she thinks the idea of a toothbrush is obscene (she cleans her teeth with rocks) and bursts through the wall while running off in panic
>>574298476>The but implying that the rest is more or better than futas and furries combined.Not it doesn't. It does imply that you and the totally different anon are morons who can't finish reading less than 1 and a half lines of text before flinging shit though.
>>574298943>insultsWell then, suit yourself in your bubble.
>>574298834I am also blind tonight, apparently>>574297916Final Ilias is like a gigantic pile of organs and meat parts with two humanoid torsos wrapped around her actual torso. And her right arm replaced with tentacles. Safer Sephy is just way way too small comparatively.
>>574297112Jump is one of those skills that is either mechanically broken or makes it bad so it's probably for the best Paradox doesn't try to imitate it.
>>574299105>Safer Sephy is just way way too small comparatively.And pretty!
>>574297112Trtr would be autistic enough to put a special state for it. With certain skills or foes ignoring it.I'm certain he must have thought of it and just decided to give it up. There's too much Spear skills after all.
So is that mobile port a bust? Full week yet the APK is nowhere to be found.https://hbox.jp/category/doujin/doujin/=/cid/673823
>>574294014The occasional kemono doesn't turn me into a schizoid or anything, but the scenes in this game didn't do much for me which is a shame because I thought the chubby mama would have. The Youmaen shoutout was fun though
I wish Luka's various Halos had unique sprites.
>>574295240I have been learning how to draw to spite ai guess im a tranny now.
>>574311868"I could do better than some gay ass machine" is a weird reason to be motivated to hone one of humanity's oldest methods of personal expression but go off I guess??????
>>574312260I mean, people have done it for weirder reasons
>>574312892All reasons unrelated to "besting" a machine are not weird
>>574293420Alice mom is so much hotter and beautiful than the other 3 that it's not even funnyIf Ilias, Michaela or Sonya weren't an marriage option i'd go straight for her
>>574293420where's top left from? something from paradox part 3 later? damn what a form
>>574317889This is what happens when you let yourself miss out just because you think the MTL is unplayable without even actually playing it
>>574318150but I am playing the MTL... it's a little confusing at times but I just pretend it's the chaos getting to me ■■■■■■■■■■■■
>>574301565It has a reference? All those games reference each other, right? Like youmaen was set in same place as prison. So you were basically doing stuff with toddler mysuscas.And in this one you are dating mysuscas exotic looking wine aunts?
>>574318746Different game, world, and tone, but a girl from Youmaen is in it and she tells you exactly why she's there too and you can't fuck her in that game because that's for Youmaen and not this game
awfully horny, woof
So that's what apotosis is. Also Paradox name call but I forgot to screenshot.
>>574325112I bet Alice wouldn't have known that, probably would've thought it was food.
Ilias is betterAngels are better
>>574315943It's expression i can express my hatred towards the machines with it.
>>574325428Better at SUCKING!Also, kissing, handholding, hugging and anything and everything sex related.
It's always fun looking back at early stuff from games and wonder how things changed in development:>A research-obsessed crow tengu.>She briefly rose to fame for developing inventions that fused demonic and human technologies,but her research driven by greed and self-interest went too far, and she was exiled from her clan.>She takes an interest in the protagonist who is “human, yet not human” and demands to monitor and experiment on him.>While she will sometimes stop at nothing to satisfy her own desires, there’s something about her personality that makes her hard to hate.This makes her come out as much more evil, while in the game she acts like a good woman with a troubled past, even seeming to care about Kazuya. The one in the collab even gave Kazuya stuff for free before he got sucked into Paradox world.The description matches her past self from SHRIFT 2 much better, though.
>>574325112If you have gained enough knowledge you'd know ilias isnt lorewise inspired by christian god but is infact more greek.
>>574326972what are some greek gods that had lucifer as a child
>>574327094zeus idkhe gets around
Ok, which one of you commissioned this?https://m11.hentaiera.com/032/8dkfhgur3x/556.webp
>>574327747Matter of fact, which one of you FAGGOTS commissioned THIS?https://m11.hentaiera.com/032/8dkfhgur3x/612.webp
Holy shit, Riot and Luxuru are great. Free level 7 engineer and a dragon.
I don't know what I'll do without Eden and the 2 angel-chansCondition boosted spear and bow are so busted that I weep whenever a boss is resistant to stat down
>>574327094Lucifer wasnt mentioned by name as in da devil in the bible. they were popularized by bible fanfiction.
>>574328270ye but bible fanfiction is still more biblerelated than greek gods
I need a mode where you have to simultaneously use status modifiers and stacks of power charges to even scratch a bosses health bar
You're not being smooth promestein.
Why hello there.
>>574328553MY nerd-glasses wife and the most important and accomplished character in the gameSuper science is always the strongest power
>>574328553>gets added to my partyWell that was fast. Thanks for the free angel though.
>>574328737I like that she's kinda ass in combat. Very in character for her to just sit in the castle doing research
HUH.
The ost change gave me goosebumps. HOW DID DAD KNOW WE WERE COMING.
HE KNEW. HE FUCKING KNEW.
FLUFFFAGS, DON'T LOOK!!!
What priest was Marcellus traveling with lmao?
>>574329653I took damage from this.
>>574329734Sonya's mom
>>574329653I never saw animal-ears girls having two sets of ears that horrifying, but I also like girls with multiple eyes. In anime style, they don't look ugly.Bald women though I was never into, but anime style at least makes them look better than the ones we get in realistic games.
Ilias would be ashamed.
>>574330064>Some rando can handle pleasure from multiple monster girls just fine.Meanwhile Luka from one monster girl:>"Oh, no! I'm COOOMING!!!"
>>574329734It does seem like this Karen was greatly effected by the lack of Ilias in this AU. The Ilias priestesshood sounds like they went super lewd within those 30 years. I don't see Lazarus simping for this woman in the VN if she was originally like this.
Spot a rapist!~
>>574330453None of them rape because they were taught properly by their big sister Eden.
>>574329734>>574330396Imagine Sonia + 30lb of body fat, mostly in tits
Interesting, the Dark Elf Mage acknowledges that the tentacle arms were created by a human mage. She talking about Lily?
>>574331912Yes. Lily is fleshed out in Paradox to be one of the greatest mages of the era, along with Lucia.What those tentacles really are, is far worse than what you think. How she got that info would probably have had Ilias nuke her village so it doesnt leak out.
>>574330368They're only sliming him>>574329953>I never saw animal-ears girls having two sets of ears that horrifyingIts super common for japs for some reason, they love four ears
>>574332557Lily is that much of an asshole in paradox? I'm excited to meet her now.
>>574331787I love that fat butt magic Knight so much
>>574334560Elves just can't help themselves to being cute and beautiful can they?
>>574334747https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
>>574334796Rude, she's a full blooded Demon anon. And think about what you say, or it can be your last
>>574334953https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
>>574334989can i at least kiss her and call her cute?
>>574335275...You may.
So no angels hiding this time eh?
Oh that's new.
>Alice's mom is back>So too is Black Alice>And there's an Alice imposter running around beating the shit out of entire armies and factions while also fighting Granberia to a draw, all in a single day.Da Fack is happening over in monster town?
>>574081849Oh I see what you mean now. So basically she can use merchant skills at half cost, AND use those merchant skills no matter what job she's in right? That IS pretty good if so. Shame. Pilate just got to black merchant as well kek.
Episode 4 of Alice and Foxes. (newfriend warning: endgame spoilers within)Part 1: https://files.catbox.moe/yruo7w.mp4Part 2: https://files.catbox.moe/pdwogn.mp4Part 3: https://files.catbox.moe/5mbo0u.mp4Part 4: https://files.catbox.moe/95jq7u.mp4
>>574336746Told you that you can't trust monster scum with anything!
Interesting. Same thing happens here.
>>574331787I have no idea how people can be attracted to this and i am an ass guy. Or was, I think.
>>574339914Ilias teaches different skills.
>>574330453I don't see any.
>>574340337The skills Alice teaches are more useful.
>>574341870and useless unless you go sword retard and you get the same skills either way no matter what
You again!>reminds us about poseidon's bellOk you definitely know something.
a mamo!
>>574342892And a free treasure chest right on the path!
>>574343037Free new ally!
>>574343090>lvl 18>Black mage lvl 2(an intermediate class)>corpse skills deal double damage to stunned foes(I have plenty of moves that inflict stun)Jesus fucking christ.
>>574344063Wait, you actually beat a Mimic so early AND landed the low Recruit chance?
>>574342461Yes Nero we see the fit you sure love farming Aura.
A true hero fights naked.
>>574344181I had riot, Amira and chirp spam stun skills(the only status effect that could reasonably proc on the mimic)Amira was already in the smooth talker class, and had access to the recruit talk which triples the recruit rate of an enemy I believeFor dps, I had Luka and Riot. Luka's thunder spell was buffed by a thunder rod I kept on him, Riot had double bite.Still a lot of rng tho
>>574344631I'm gonna make Mimic a time mage. She relies more on her corpse skills to do dps. And having access to debuffs that enemies can't counter will be useful.
>>574344631Nice (also cute birb)
>>574344469
>>574330368Angels are weak to [Pleasure], please understand.
>>574342892Alice's racism gives me life
>>574344469More like a true pervert
>Catch some kitsunes>Both of the ones you can capture have Magician lvl 10 and thief lvl 10 already unlocked>Kamuro's trait allows her to use Taoist skills regardless of her class, meaning that once I unlock the bare minimum of her taoist skills, I can have a Master thief while also giving me an answer to enemies that are weak to water earth and windWhat a fucking power spike. Kitsune's being best girls as usual.
>>574336746>fighting Granberia to a drawlol lmaoImagine deciding to job against Granberia.>>574341870Nope. Literally two skills can be seen as good.
>>574347859Do not be deceived by their job levels and fluffiness...
>>574344631Just something I thought about, you do check the Pocket Castle for sidequests right?Huh, did you get the Cook job?
>>574347859Use promstien. This is not a request, its an order
>>574348632You mean Vanilla and papi’s quests right? Yeah I’ve gotten them up to date as much as I can. I also did get the cook job yes.
Who needs smelly dancers when you can cook
>>574349318Perrrrrfect!
>>574349645Chefs don't give you exp multipliers and weapon haste
>>574348517almost every skill Ilias teaches is garbage, you just have to jump through more hoops to learn some of them later if you didn’t pick her.
>>574349645>WHY I OUGHTTA-
>>574351190Nope. Holy Skills rules especially in Part 1 and 2 so you kind of want to have them as soon as possible, where most of what Alice teach you are unnecessary.The only good skills that Alice teach is Bloody Fissure Thunder Thrust, Vaporizing Rebellion Sword and Quadruple Giga, one is at the start, but the rest is far, far away. Quadruple Giga being an exclusive skill.
>>574351840she doesn’t teach very good ones and Luka is terrible at using them. You are better off with heroism. Everything you can get from other jobs or the angel race is better. I played Ilias’s route multiple times, I would know.
>>574347859it’s funny because they’re terrible and it’s not gonna last
>>574352053>You are better off with heroismObviously. Fact is most of Alice's skills are sucky and unnecessary, where Ilias' skills give you early access to great stuff early on. Holy Skills are great.
>>574352452both of them suck getting shit from the job tree mogs them both.
>>574334560Its crazy how magic knight is a straight upgrade to skull and witch for so many games.
>>574352518That's also true, but Alice's skills are mostly genuinely sucky. Ilias give you stuff you would get a bit later as opposed to a lot, early on, making you able to mog things.
>>574352452the difference is that Alice allows you to obtain a few good sword skills earlier than you would actually be able to legitimately obtain them on Luka, ones he can use well that are useful for a good period of time, whereas pretty much every skill Ilias teaches him is either bad or quickly outclassed by his racial skills.>>574352719They’re really not. You can obtain everything Ilias teaches you very easily and not even that late on Alice’s route
>>574352719Alice gives you demon skull crusher or whatever its called
>>574353056One skill. And it's because with it you can chain it with Heroism, acting before anyone.Later on, Elemental Spica and Quadruple Giga are good shit though.So it's better to get Ilias skills earlier, you will get em anyways, better sooner than later to mog everything faster.
>>574352452holy is a waste of Luka’s time, the only one who should bother using holy skills on that route that early is Ilias herself since she incentivizes just stacking the main stat all of them scale off of while Luka can only use the few that scale with attack normally, and they’re still weaker than sword and heroism skills against pretty much anything.
>>574353567I disagree, you generally want to have multiple characters who have access to Holy or healing in case of emergency.Not that I disagree with the part where Ilias is the better Holy user though.
>>574352550>>574352550>Its crazy how magic knight is a straight upgrade to skull and witch for so many games.They're also very cute
>>574353289Ilias’s skills “mog” jack shit, and you’re comically biased to the point of irrationality if you refuse to accept Alice’s skills are just generally better than hers. Even back in Part 1 and 2 I saw everyone unanimously agreeing this was the case and Alice’s route was better in terms of what she gave you. He can’t even use half of them effectively. Most of the holy skills in general don’t scale off attack and even the ones that do are out damaged by sword and heroism. Angel Dance is ass and easily obtainable anyways and almost everything else Ilias teaches are bad support skills that he’s not good at using. Even in Part One her choices are better.
>>574354108>Ilias’s skills “mog” jack shit>Ilias cast any Holy spells>it nukes everything>"mog" jack shitSure buddy, who is biased again?>Even back in Part 1 and 2 I saw everyone unanimously agreeing this was the case and Alice’s route was better in terms of what she gave you.No, in what kind of timeline you were?
>>574354308Anon he's talking about the skills illias teaches luka. Not the party member illias.
>>574354539Ah, I thought we suddenly talked about the Luka using what he learned, and Ilias skills that she can use.
>>574354308>conversation is about the skills being taught by Alice and Ilias when used by Luka>Luka is bad at using Ilias’s skills, and “mogs” jackshit with them because he deals pathetic amounts of damage due >Make a point that they’re only “good” specifically when/if used by Ilias herself>“Well, if ILIAS casts them herself like you said then they’re good!”>“Ha!”Nice one, dumbass.Thanks for proving my point when you had to resort to shifting the goalpost to something I already mentioned.>in what kind of timeline you were?One where there weren’t any larping ESLs who making increasing grammatical mistakes the more defensive of their waifu they get.Ilias herself is the reason you pick that route, Luka is awful at using the holy skills she teaches.
>>574355430>insultsIt was nice while it lasted. It always end up like that.
>>574355635you go out of the way to ignore every argument or piece of evidence against your point, and scream nuh-uh or make snide comments that turn into own-goals, and then you shift to being upset because I called you dumb for how you behave?>it always end up like thatHave you ever considered there’s probably a reason for this?All of Ilias’s holy skills that she teaches Luka (that early in the game at least such as holy light) scale off of willpower or dexterity, which Luka is not equipped to use, because he is geared specifically for stacking his attack stat. He’s objectively bad at using them unless you go out of the way to gear him towards this build at the expense of what he’s better suited for. I got him to learn Grand Cross from Paladin and it’s superior to every holy skill Ilias teaches him in the first two parts entirely because it scales off of attack.
>>574356673It was a dumb mistake, calm down.As for the rest, Angel Dance is flat out better than Demon Decapitation, since you actually learn beter one foe skills, and Holy skills are so good, most of the enemy weak to Holy, and finally most likely be slightly overleveled that they'll be strong even if you don't put point on Will or Dex.
>>574357492holy autohits as well good for earlygame.
>>574357492I am calm, I’m just not gonna take this “woe is me” shit from you like you’re some poor baby. Especially considering that wouldn’t make any sense to say unless you’re one of the anons who constantly does this and gets on everyone’s nerves for it.>angel danceIt’s terrible, but also one of the first skills angels learn in the first place; heck holy light is the second skill the angel race gets so you can grab both of the first two Ilias tutor skills as easy as the armored berserker fight, and then get blade of healing too for that matter. So you’ll learn them almost immediately even when you aren’t on Ilias’s route and it makes her tutor a moot point as Alice Route Luka grabs those skills fast anyways.>but holy is just so good!It’s only good if you’re equipped for it. Ilias is>but what if you extensively grind and over leveled yourself?!The average player is not grinding away every ounce of difficulty like a self-defeating autist who is compelled to “max” every single job the second they get it. Especially not this early. And even then overleveling doesn’t do much for this because those are not the stats Luka uses to actually attack things. You will deal more damage with any other skill, even with the weakness.All this would do is make Ilias overleveled and have her kill everything by spamming holy light instead, if you aren’t having Luka spam heroism skills because you got fed metagaming information that made you skip leveling what he’s good at to have him learn other things.
>>574358574That part is pretty situational, it’s only really useful for the Harpy Tower.Ilias is very, very strong early on (far more than Alice thanks to her being built around spamming Holy Skills), so she’s very good at this. Luka is just particularly bad at trying to imitate her and you’re better off doing something else with him. The only reason to consider using holy light on Luka is if you’re on Alice’s route; specifically because you do not have Ilias in the first place and this cannot just have her spam it.Even then you’re just better off with heroism since he hits like a wet noodle with trying to use those skills.
>>574359923Just one thing.>The average player is not grinding awayI never talking about grinding a lot to max out jobs, but I like how that's one of the first things you though of. Completely ignoring the fact that since Luka and Ilias will be in your party, obviously they would be specialized and a bit overleved, which is enough to make them strong.Now you can continue to seethe at imaginary ghosts. And hopefully shut up.
The holy skills suck desu. If you want holy damage your custom sword gets it very early.Not sure about Alice but I don't suppose hers replace stuff learned from actual class progression.>t. Ilias router playing through early part 3 right now
>>574360371Healing spells are great though. 100% HP recovery!
>>574360619oh yeah definitely, the little utility bits are nice but still niche because you still kinda want to be attacking or ramping buffs on Luka. But desu I lose track of what's learned from the Angel line and what Ilias toss you, they're all holy in the end
>>574360364I never accused (you) specifically of over-grinding or “maxing out jobs” either. I simply pointed out the objective truth that deliberately going out of your way to grind is the only way that you will actually become noticeably overleveled during an average playthrough. Having Luka and Ilias in your party does not automatically make them overleveled. Your “one thing” is completely irrelevant.>seethe at imaginary ghostsWhat are you even talking about? This more whining because you feel like you’re “muh victim” or something?>s-shut up!lolAnd yeah the custom sword gets holy element too so even his sword and heroism skills get holy element bonuses regardless of the route. Giving Luka even less of a reason to care about holy light.
>>574360898Holy has some insane Healing and unique Support state, it's the real cool thing about it. Even in Part 3 White Magic feel lackluster because of it.Dark is all about offence, but you'll only start to get good things during Part 3. Worldbreaker does have Attack/Support hybrid skills, but the job isn't implemented yet.
>>574361395All of the actually cool support holy skills I remember from Parts One and Two came from Paladin and God Hand. Angel races teach almost exclusively offensive ones. Paladin gives you>party def/will up>cure all statuses>Grand Cross (re: the fun holy skill that lets Luka start living the dream like some of us hoped Holy Light would do)And God Hand gives the party 100% full recovery and a revive. Pope and Ocean are better for healing SP/MP but it’s honestly well worth the investment for the white mage and martial artist to get these; almost all the holy skills you get from the angel races are just your standard damaging ones or the one that sets all your allies to auto-battle.
>>574362437oh well also the suicide bombing and suicide -> fully revive the party skills but you can pair those with things to trigger on-death abilities too. God Hand also gives ascension immunity which can help at times too.
>>574362437Yeaaaah, in Part 3 the rest of it are just upgraded versions of Saint's Prayer. Which are good, better than White Magic but still.White Magic does have Aqua Pendragon, White Wind, Mighty Guard, and Reraise though.
>>574363431Aqua Pentagon being exclusive until extremely late in the game (for if you go out of the way to race change to get it) doesn’t help much either
>>574363705Poor, poor Aqua Pendragon.
Foxes...
>>574365879
>>574365879... are evil scheming tricksters. Don't fall for their wiles.
>>574366870Surely you are wrong anon, this pair makes for good konpany. No way they are konspiring
nnnng I want a new kitsune but in reality I just wanted Tamamo but I'm locked to the other route
>>574365879>>574366664>>574366870>>574368064Mentally deranged foxes
>Being a good follower of Illias and retiring from adventuring to open up an orphanage for all of the children whose parents were killed and abandoned monsters. >Adult monsters are afraid of getting close since I go ballistic when someone tries to prey on the orphans >A few lolibaba monsters are stuck pretending to be kids after seeing me almost murk their friends trying to kidnap the orphans >Some start to love being doted on and treated as a kid and it worries their friends that they'll become like that as well
>>574365879 Are Overdone
>>574370153Konsider this: Mentally deranged fox (but she's nice to you and only you!)Why is it so hot when a bad girl gives you this smile?
>>574370753Because it serves as a reminder that she, too, was innocent once upon a timeAlso do spoiler that for newanon's sake
>>574370753Because you know its just a ploy and that she's using you. And thats hot
>>574370753>but she's nice to you and only you!)I'm pretty sure she's 'nice' to plenty of other men as well
around foxes... never let your guard downdoes Daji teach you nothing
>>574372410Daji teaches me that the shrift dev is an idiot because i HAVE to let her live and get away with it for the true ending.
>>574370715>Be me, high level monster>Hear about this retired adventurer who is supposedly really strong>"He might be good rape material">Travel the lands to go where he is>Expect a grand estate, bustling with servants eager to please this slave to Ilias>Get there >Creeping in from the nearby treeline, get a good look at the building>It's an old looking orphanage>The supposedly imposing hero is there, reading a book to children and->"Are those fucking lolibaba monsters?!">One is sitting on his lap, listening to him intently>Another one sits upon the stairs among the children, completely unbothered>Turn around to think, this could be problematic but at the same time...>...Well I'm not one to steal kills but it's their fault if they haven't claimed him yet>I turn back to stare at my prey, suddenly notice that the one sitting on his lap is missing>Think nothing of it, until I hear a chilling voice behind me>"Don't even think about it">The fucker is here. When did she get here>She steps closer, I'm too paralyzed by fear to do anything>"Go away, don't make me do something you'll regret">She walks away, back to the orphanage>Maybe I should indeed go away>Turn back to the orphanage once more, she's back to sitting in the hero's lap, being petted by him>She turns to look at me straight in the eye the moment the hero gets distracted>Yeah I should definitely get away from here
>>574373168That lolibaba was vinum and she ate him that following night :)
I'm so sad that monster girls don't exist. Say something to cheer me up.
>>574374392they exist if you'd just find a really vile woman
>>574374392They would probably be a nightmare to live with
>>574375008>marry a kitsune>every time she takes a shower she clogs the drainage
>>574374575t. fabulous man
>>574374392MGQ suggests the monster isn't on the outside, they're just bad people too.
>kid wanders slightly out into the forest while playing outside>vored
>>574374392Getting eaten or drained to death is bad, actually
>>574375245that's no different than being eaten by a bearless painful, I'd say
>>574372410>>574372743Daji dindu!!!!
>>574374392There’s always hope. Maybe we’ll find love someday, but if nothing else, it’s better to have the dream than not dream at all.
>>574375194Not All Monsters!….Only some of them.Honestly they’re my favorite implementation of the concept for the surprisingly realistic (in certain ways) treatment it’s given all things considered; many of the average Monster Girls come from established civilizations or tribes and were able to successfully integrate into modern day life and live alongside humanity; but due to their history, a lot of them evolved to do that on purpose, and a large number of Monster Girls also make up the wildlife of their world (with many species being described that you never get to see or interact with due to either being too peaceful or shy and only get mentioned, such as starfish in the southern oceans compared to the hostile aggressive ones you can run into on the northern part of the map) and are functionally wild animals who are generally more dangerous and unpredictable than evil. And also look like cute girls.As a pattern I noticed though, the more antagonistic or “feral” a monster girl behaves, the more all of her civilized members of similar species will actively dislike them, until you get to the actually evil girls or girls who cannot be civilized, at which point those Monster Girls ultimately end up despising and wanting to get rid of them for the exact same reasons that the humans do. Said Monster Girls being willing to stand up for or care about humans may even be part of how those races/groups got closer to them in the first place.
>>574376643Daji killed my best friend and turned him into a tulpa! She's getting the linear launcher, old one dues ex machina be damned.
I think Daji is hotter than Tamamo design wise but it only gets shown when she’s drawn by better artists
>>574379798Too big, really. I like my lolibabas
>>574379798Idk she's pretty good looking for being drawn in maspaint
>>574376643Reminder she's so good at cooking and taking care of the house that Nina and Iron Maiden only let her come to Kazuya's house once a month so she won't leave everyone with nothing to do all day.If Kazuya didn't have three powerful demons by his side he would have ended a lazy hedonist just like King Shou upon marrying her.
>>574379693Same.
>>574372410>>574372743Horrible to have as an enemy but fantastic as wife?Yeah it checks out even with tamamo
>>574374392A human woman is basically an elf anyway.
I haven't been able to continue playing for days since I got moved to a night shift that left me feeling tired all day
>>574379798I like that her nipples are on the verge of popping out, and that her outfit parts at her crotch. Its very fitting for a whore of babylon such as her.
>>574383963Funny, I'm on the opposite side of that. I spent the last 7 years working overnights and now I got a new job where I have to work days. It's been rough.
Everybody wants a drunk seagull girl until they have to deal with the constant screeching and aggressive displays
>>574389145Nobody wants a fucking seagall girl are you insane
>>574383963Unfortunate, sorry man. Hopefully you’ll get back to it eventually.>>574389556NTA but there’s at least one fan art of the siren out there so there’s at least one person who likes the local seagull
>>574390372His wife would radomly fly out to seas for days
how do harpies wipe without any hands?
>>574392194With great difficulty
I haven't been on the threads for about half a year, have there been any updates for Paradox during that time?
Are the medal queen/king weapons upgradeable or are they just a useless medal sink that at best hold one gem?
Archangel Bra lasts with upgrades, kino for the best base armor in parts 1 and 2
>>574395062I know how good archangel bra is, eve during chaos route, but I can't remember ver upgrading caladbolg, falcon sword or the medal king exclusive weapon.
>secret attack scroll>normal attacks deal 10x more damageWhat in the actual fuck?
>>574392194That's what they have husbands for.
>>574396442Welcome to paradox! Consider this your teaser for things to come.
>>574396665>Remember that slug girl that attacks three times in a row with normal attacks>Imagine if i added wind claws onto her>put this shit on her
Wait. Does this thing take 50% of the enemy's hp and launch it as damage?
>>574396767Normal attacks kept getting buffed through the patches and somehow this slug became one of the best queens because of it.
>>574396442Theres a lot of gimmick accessories. I always just used the flat attack/magic percent increase because i'm basic like that.
>>574397484Of current hitpoints yeah. I forget when but it doesn't work forever on bosses. Its decent for part 1 and then part 2 onwards you'll probably never use it
>>574397484Yes, but it doesn't work on bosses or certain other unique enemies.
>>574397484Yeah. But it's kind of baddish.
Jesus christ. Sure love your time magic huh.
>>574397484Gravity spells are pure shit.They might work on some trash mobs, but the bosses are immune to it. There was a really popular exploit back before the release of Part 3 where you can make bosses weak to it, but TrTr nerfed it to the ground like many other old strategies.
>>574399213Spiders are the quintessential time magic monster. TrTr took that weird web dimension thing that the Un-Do spider in the Grangold attack had from the VN, and expanded it to the whole species.
Well look who it is.
>>574399539Domain Expansion? No. Species Expansion!
So you're the fake alice.
>>574399669Anon's wife, Nanabi...
>tamamo is just a replayed image from the VN timeline
>>574399980Does he know?
>White rabbit comes in to beat Fake Alice(Neris) for disrupting the timeline, but then Nero comes in outta nowhere to beat HER ass.What the fuck is happening.>Then Neris starts flirting non stop with Luka
>>574397484>Wait. Does this thing take 50% of the enemy's hp and launch it as damage?You never played a classic FF game huh?It's one of those things that is very powerful and works on nothing.Except that one time trtr didn't allow for a combination of ones which actually caused it to work on almost everything...>>574399669It's my wife, Nyanabi!
>>574400120>whats going onDon't worry anon, that will be hinted at but not elaborated for the next 50 or so hours of playtime
>>574397484Some enemies later resist it, even taking half or a quarter of the said damage, but it still ends up being kinda broken because you can just have one of the OP characters triple cast mobs into having 1 HP. Still pretty bad in terms that most broken stuff will oneshot in this game.
>>574400120>>574400309Part 1 is "enough hints are there"Part 2 is "okay, actual exposition"
>>574400120It's a good thing that ultimately, White Rabbit a good girl.>>574400404And then Part 3 is too much exposition.
>Golden Route will be the the end of MGQ sagaI want the journey to last forever bros.
>>574401061All good things come to an end.
>>574399669based team; on the subject of “things that age well” Reina’s priority will be very very nice and she’s actually capable of lasting the whole game thanks to it and the ailment rate buff. Even if ailments mostly start to only be effective on mobs or mini/minor bosses it’s surprisingly more powerful than you might think.
>>574402578She is stupidly great. It goes to show how a great Trait can make a character perfect.
>>574402706>>574402578Shame her exp song can’t be used without being a minstrel though
>>574402706it just makes me hapy that japan considers her the best one (besides the archeoptryx for dps)>>574405439That won’t be a problem for too long at least, but for early on she does have to stay in it if she wants both. It’s worth it though. She’s a superstar!
>>574405439>Shame her exp song can’t be used without being a minstrel thoughAround Tier 3, most Job categories give an equippable passive that allows their skills to be use anytime.The value of it is obviously in the grand scheme small because you'd usually be building around a trait, but the good news is for most of the game it's sufficient to just have a character using Singing or Dancing at all.
>>574405439Her trait only applies to dancing skills as well, so if she's a minstrel you aren't going to be able to benefit from it until you begin chaining skills into other skills with abilities.
>>574405821>archeoptryx>Ancient Great Bird Monster>Can always equip Spears and Heavy Spears. Can always use Spear, Dancing, and Wing skills, dealing +50% damage. Spear and Dancing skills use Agility in place of other stats. Spear and Wing skills deal +150% damage to foes afflicted with Slow, Stop, or Element Weak effects. Chains Dancing skills into Wing then Spear skills. Immune to Hadron damage.It's not a bad trait at all, in fact, it's a great one, +150% is better than most of the best characters, but we live in a world where Haste X make the X skills cost 1,5x more SP, where Reina, queen that she is, doesn't just get a free Haste Dancing, she get it cheaper! 66% their SP costs.Which is invaluable, priceless in a game where things will eventually snowball, and her skillpool will only get larger and larger, since obviously, you should make her learn Dancing, Fan, Wing, and even Singing skills.>>574405439Yeah about that...
>>574406835Her getting to bootstrap singing priority for that was awesome for the combos it lets her do with themAlso strange dance is very fun in Parts One and Two. I’ll miss using it for LOC, even if the nerf was kind of understandable.
>>574407186>+150% is better than most of the best charactersIn fact, most of the best characters only get a +75%. Characters that goes +100% are rare. +150%? BIIG.
>>574407186>Chains Dancing skills into Wing then Spear skills.the fuck does that mean?
>>574408102Spoiler Anon...
>>574407186I did say purely in terms of damage. Reina is better overall of course for her sheer versatility and efficiency, but she actually does seem to be the strongest Harpy in terms of pure DPS potential currently, even if I literally never used her (that trait wasn’t even in 3.02 she got that after I finished the harpy only run).but then again I got Reina to solo the final boss without the x2000 stat buff, sure it took three hours to kill her but she still survived long enough to actually do that. Maybe that’s just a testament to knowing how to make the most of her though. She only had three final jobs mastered and she honestly only needed two of them for that, and it was entirely reliant on her priority and sp management and keeping track of turns (which wasn’t that hard just had to refresh buffs and such).
>>574408346With or without the FoC buff? Heheh.I repeat myself but it's really show how a good trait can make or break a character. As well as how you use her.RIP El, who had a Haste Singing, but unfortunately, there is no Singing to Dancing chains.
>>574408102it’s not important dw anon, just fuhgeddabouditenjoy the port, also, don’t keep the succubus on your boat waiting. you saw a vision of berry and a mamo, so that means Alma’s totally gotta be where she is too y’know?
>>574408558el being held hostage is what cripples her the most, it’s just mean at that point when the recruits around her are over twice her level by the time you get her back. Poor girl.
>>574408832Not a direct cripple, but I think Shoutmata being a superior Singing haste character because she's a doll with Miracle Song is even worse.
>>574231195thank you my man
there are real chinese fairy tale where a dragon raped a old man the dragon was a dude
Finally recruited nanabi. Took a tad longer than I would have liked but I feel pretty damn powerful now.
>>574413931Oh great job!
>>574414056I noticed that Nanabi was weak to wind and while she was obviously more weak to slow, only had a 50% resistance to the time stop debuff. So I just had to gamble with mimic, luka and rachnee landing a lucky stop.For dps, I had riot, and remember that whole realization about combining the normal attack scroll with the slug trio? Yeah. One of their crits drew a fine 8.9k from Nanabi when gave them wind claws.
>>574413931Congrats! She’s actually the main superboss for Part One, so if you stayed to keep fighting her and didn’t backtrack to do this you’re probably about to steamroll most of the part lol.Sphinx was also in part one but unrecruitable until Part Two, where she got beefed up significantly to match the other two intended superbosses there.
Oh, the memories.
>>574414469Ilias route is better.
WHO ARE YOU AND WHERE IS ALMA.
>>574414559Aaaah, shaddup
lol. LMAO.
Literally who!?>Do you know how much damage killing one person did to the flow of time!??!?!?!?!?!
>>574414617>>574414469Whaddaya talkin bout anon that’s totally Succubus Queen Alma Elma and not the contractually obligated replacement, Lilith Sister Morrigan>>574414747By the way, this fight is supposed to be one of the hardest parts of Part One entirely (she’s known for being a roadblock for multiple runs), so if you just bulldozed her, you probably went a little overboard getting your BFF (big fox friend).
>>574414896nobody tell him this becomes hilarious in hindsight
>>574414970See, illias port sold these pretty convenient items that gave me 150% more exp in exchange for very meagre debuffs. Combine that with the fact that Reina had learned Luck Song and uhhh yeah I couldn't resist.
>>574414896well, that’s Seraph Zion. Promestein told you about her at a camp but it probably got left in the background.Also, enjoy Port Natalia.
>>574414970>(she’s known for being a roadblock for multiple runs)She's not too hard to fight if you aren't playing a run under unique restrictions. Equipping characters with Baptised Daggers goes a long way in making short work of her.The problem comes if you tried to speedrun at a non-Easy difficulty or do something like a Slime-only playthrough where she just fucking deletes you
>>574414970Nananbi herself is already good enough to beat her, and his characters are already max level in the beginner jobs and races, I don't know why he hasn't changed into intermediate jobs/races yet, though.
>>574413931>>574414359I wouldn't say "superboss" but Part 2 did buff Sphinx. Nanabi's easier than a tier 2 mimic because her damage averages aren't that high.But still impressive to clear her now.
the fuck happened to meia in this timeline?>>574415253A-anon, Every class in that screenshot is an intermediate race or job(unless they're human)
>>574414617We love Mikubus here!>>574414896Why does she wear only 1 oversized boot?
>>574414747Welcome to "You defeated the boss, but the story will make it as if you didn't and or make it irrelevant.">>574414896Zion was really fucking cool there.
>>574415408>He not only got to intermediate jobs and races, but maxed them out before leaving the Ilias continent.grinding worthy of its own h-scene
>>574415249Tbf half of the playable cast you can use before her is pretty bad or not good against her. Pochi and Ratty? Beasts are weak to pleasure, same with Papi. Plants? Land-dwellers? Not really good characters. Barbun, Kitsu, Kamuro can be amazing but also risky against her.
>>574415804You get 3 succubi who get each get 15% more stats by being in the same party at the start of the game
>>574415103That’s totally fair, you like Kitsune a lot judging from what I’ve seen and Nanabi’s pretty great. I always beat Nanabi at a lower level than that though. When I grind jobs I usually put in bracelets that negate exp gain for doubling job gain but I don’t think you get those yet, I think you can only get the weaker version at the moment which is what it sounded like you used. I do it so I don’t get too high leveled and usually try to keep from getting too far ahead.The level cap in Part One was 30 to give you an idea of what it was balanced around. You could always change the difficulty whenever you feel like it’s getting too easy though.
>>574416056>When I grind jobs I usually put in bracelets that negate exp gain for doubling job gain but I don’t think you get those yetI did have one. The illiasville storage building had one.
Hey, we could use the cutest spider girl in the game!
>>574415681>Welcome to your classic story tradition of ‘enemy was holding back and you can beat them for real later’It’s just so weird to me to be sound that bothered over it. It’s not even that uncommon in other media you see this stuff in old books and film or shows all the time.>>574415547My best guess is she lost the other boot up some monster’s rear end because she tried to actually perform the metaphor and didn’t get it back.Odds are it just fell off or something though, maybe she can’t tie her shoes properly.
>>574416350I'll get Atlach-Nacha right now then!
>>574416428>It’s just so weird to me to be sound that bothered over itWhen it's done one or twice, it's fine. When it's done all the time? It's a tad, it's a little, it's a wee bit, annoying.
>>574416428This game does it for almost every boss that's recruited like 20 hours later.
>>574415681>You defeated the boss*you barely made them flinch after fighting for your life while they're still fucking around
>>574416428some need immediate gratification or their power fantasy feefees are hurt.even in part three they acknowledge you getting one turn kills to compliment you or make them scared of you and start to panic and events happen from hasty retreats or desperate measures instead. trtr just can’t rewrite the entire route to accommodate for the fringe scenerio of you doing this the first time around since you’re meant to get those the second one.
>>574416838Spoiler that you faggot.
"Fufufu you've defeated me... but I guess that means I'll have to use 2 Tails!"
>>574416910Kill yourself nigger all he did was say part three the newfag won't even know what part he's in cause the game never tells him.
>>574416779It’s almost solely just for the AW/MW stuff like Zion and Morrigan or the A/As. Most bosses either are defeated or retreat or join after the fight. Even then the Lilith trio works well since Morrigan is screwing around, Astaroth is testing you and then Lilith reveals she’s not actually holding back in her fight and only retreats due to her now wanting you on her side, so you do legitimately beat her in battle at that point.It only happens more noticeably in Part Three but I guess I just didn’t really notice or feel that bothered by it since it made sense and you get to see them freaking out if you stomp them. I reset just to get the line from Hiruko since it’s pretty satisfying to see it.
>>574416838>strawman + ignore previous posts
>>574417136>Lilith reveals she’s not actually holding back in her fight>She doesn't deal 6 million damage to you party with chained skillsPick one
>>574416910Literally none of that says anything about the story or plot or anything at all. It’s just “if you one turn certain fights they piss their pants at your might”.>>574417167Cope + Seethe I didn’t see the previous posts when writing that but I would still stand by what I said anyway and think there’s zero problem
>>574417412Crybaby faggot
>>574415804Imps are great against her as an anon said, but having easy access to multiple sources of Holy damage also makes her pretty manageable with most kinds of parties. Apprentice Hero revival is great to have on more characters than just Luka also
>>574417489kek you're the one crying over "muh spoiler"
>>574417587Wrong guy retard
>>574417328>what is stat inflationAlso that’s Lilith Origin. But Lilith doesn’t make any excuses in Part Two and is actually surprised, hence “but I’m not holding back?” when you actually beat her.Remember that Nero in the Armored Berserker Fight is level 70 and is significantly weaker than the version of him you get when he actually joins your team, despite him canonically not changing and being the same Nero. The stat inflation trtr ended up putting part three through caused a drastic case of serial escalation, but canonically she’s not holding back in that fight.
>>574417489who’s crying? you sound rather upset, anon.
>>574417723Nta but she's still weaker than a depressed Granberia or weakened Eden. She 100% is holding back even if she said she isn't.
>>574414896Look at how flat this dumb blue washboard is, goddamn
>>574417935Turbo flat with a stupid outfit kyahahaha!It's still a cool CG though.
YOU.
>>574418362Whatever you do, don't talk to her with Bunni in the party at the Pocket Castle
>>574417932You fight Lilith long after Granberia (Alma was put in jail by that point) but before Eden. It would be easier for me to believe that given the circumstances (our) Eden was stronger despite having atrophied and then just lost most of what she had left breaking the barrier, rather than Lilith holding back despite saying she wasn’t holding back. Although granted, I often play on Ilias’s route where you don’t even fight Eden in the first place so that’s not even something I thought about until after I did Alice’s.Lilith did just come off the fight with Alma and/or had been running around getting her siblings back beforehand IIRC, so maybe you could view it as her having been worn down prior to the battle, and that’s why you defeated her, which would still mean she’s not holding back but not at her full strength either.But I never saw it like that and still don’t. I think it’s just a case of the game stats creating mild ludonarrative dissonance due to it being a JRPG where later encounters have to be stated higher to be appropriately challenging for the area they’re in.
>>574418362I hope you know how to use the Talk skills, this will be useful.
>>574418362PECK AT HER! PECK THE EYES!!
>>574418362Pink means gentle and friendly
>>574418670You refight Granberia in the volcanoso it's still a fight after her even if you fought her before as well. If you say a weaken Eden is stronger then it makes no sense with both of them being weaker than the Morrigan rematch, yes Part 3 number inflation, but Morrigan is not supposed to be stronger than her older sister. Plus you have Lilith having a technique named later for Part 3 yet she didn't use it in her fight against Luka so even with the weakened by Alma excuse she is definitely holding back.
>>574418630>>574418760>>574418796>>574418861Luka can talk and chirp's a smooth talker now. is there something I have to be worried about regarding Bess? What's this about Bunni?
>>574417935Not canon, she's like irl D-cup
>>574420086She's a succubus she can appear as any size she wants
>>574416350For me, it's Miko Arachne.
I know you've always been fond of little boys meia but this is too far.
>>574419595Again, that’s just “ludonarrative dissonance due to JRPG mechanics caused by taking every single stat as gospel and not the general idea balanced around the part you’re at”. Story says it, she says it and the fight lines up with the other stuff balanced for those parts, I just think this isn’t something much to argue about.>lilith didn’t have a skill in part two that was made during part three for her fight in part two!Well, yeah, no shit?That doesn’t suddenly retroactively negate everything. If trtr had designed that skill at the time he would’ve given it to her and it would’ve been a weaker skill like how several of the Tier 4 skills got turned from 1800 to 2400 or higher. I swear some of you guys get caught up on the most ridiculous things. Like complaining about how the game won’t let you have a win and then jumping through hoops to claim that one of the wins it does give you (in the story) doesn’t count. With how much some of you bitch about muh shikis or the not getting to have lasting victory over the thirteen until the third route you’d think they’d actually be able to enjoy the part where the game just says Luka beats her in a fair fight since AW!Eden snipes Origin with the cheat spear last second.
>>574417092https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ucpwlE3fiY
Oh you ass.
>>574419595>how do game design work?the only time trtr ever added skills to previous encounters was to give them sorceries. it’s kind of ridiculous to claim something that didn’t even exist at the time ruins it for you when you could just as easily put that at being Lilith Origin’s skill since that’s what Lilith was originally like, and that’s the version of her that you actually face in that route for the battle you’re talking about.
https://whobutclaw.itch.io/angelfaceA-aaaiiieee the ange-
>>574421148She is a pervert! PERVERT!!
>>574421057>Luka beats her in a fair fightLuka isn't beating ANYONE from act 3 in a "fair fight", also a reminder that Lilith is around during the great monster wars, she can, at any time, teleport across the room instantly and bitchslap luka and his party across the room whenever she pleases and her saying "wow you're so strong I was using my full power" is Liliths spin on the "you're so mature for your age" manipulation tactic that she has undoubtedly refined over hundreds of years of dryfishing shotas.
The only "why didn't they just" moment I ponder about is Minagi neither using her mindcontrol ability or even fisticuffs when she had the party cornered in her sex dungeon
PROMESTEIN NO!
>>574421379Lilith does use the skill to kill that Black Alice lackey in her non-origin form, and was added in name as the same patch as the sorcery skills. By all means she should had used that skill in that battle if she wasn't holding back.
Lmao its this girl again.
>>574419595she fights you together with Astaroth and the fight is incredibly easy for that period of the game. And then Astaroth dies immediately afterwards. It did not feel like either one of them were actually that much stronger at all. The only hard fight with them after the first Lilith fight is Lilith!O which is the three put together, and the fusion making her stronger than she was at 1/3rd her original potential is fairly self explanatory. By the final route their stats are mostly where you would expect them to be but adjusted for the comically severe inflation, and they’re treated like they’re at their usual strength but just mindlessly slaughtering people for an unknown reason (which turned out to be from echidna), rather than them having gotten astronomically stronger offscreen somehow. The inflation is clearly just for gameplay purposes, and taking it too seriously is what’s causing this.
>>574280463I dunno, it's not that crazy to imagine. The original MGQ is basically perfect, and there's a looooooooooooooooooooot of people that don't like the direction Paradox took for whatever reason.
>>574421951This isn't about the inflation but the fact you fight her much earlier with her saying "I wasn't holding back" so it ends up making her look like she's weaker than the Lilith twins instead of a character as strong as a Monster Lord which she should be canonically. Even without part 3 stat inflation if she was at least part 2 Black Alice stats then it wouldn't be a discussion.
>>574421935Grilled starfish....
Lily? Or is it Chrome?
>>574422107Lore wise her power is similar to un-weakened Eden, but less than Lucifina or Micaela.There's a reason why she was sealed instead of outright killed.
Good to see you again gramps!
>>574421647Its part two, not part three, but whatever man, that’s just not what actually happens in the story, if you don’t want to accept what’s canon I guess that’s not my problem, go be upset at her for cheating you out of the win you actually get. You defeat her in that castle. She’s visibly and audibly confused over it. Your weird fixation on power scaling her doesn’t change this, because Luka’s team is just that strong at that point, and the entire point of the moment is to show how strong Luka has gotten, so it only furthers that.>>574421917>in nameWas it not finished yet then? If the skill wasn’t finished that would be a reasonable explanation but otherwise if he had finished it by then then I guess trtr just forgot.It still doesn’t change how the fight and story were written and planned and how it pans out. Nothing ever retcons the outcome of the battle. As far as I’m aware the only retcon is to how Alma got into the cell.>>574422107Black Alice I can very very easily believe being stronger than non-origin Lilith, Alicetromeria herself is utterly ridiculous. Black Alice is a freak of nature for her lineage canonically and only Alice 16th compares, the only ones stronger being Saja and the first.Also, Luka doing that well despite Lilith not holding back is what convinces her that Luka is the Worldbreaker in the prophecy they have, so it’s pretty difficult to just disregard it because she was trying to kill him at that point. I just don’t get how you think this makes her look weaker than the other two tag teaming in that later fight unless you take the stats at face value from a dev who has become increasingly notorious for being bad at balancing stats.
WELL GEE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH DADDYDOO
>>574421148>Oh you ass.Another recurring thing.>>574422647>>574422745You are so not ready for peak.
>>574421428I saw the words Angel and clicked before I even realized.
>>574421647>it’s another “the story disagrees with my headcanons so therefore the story is wrong” episodeLuka’s just that strong by then. Just how it works.
Thank Ilias for Pope droyd's promestylon Nyagrotech monstalink AI microsoft technology
>>574423028>Luka’s just that strong by then. Just how it works.It's like Luka beating Black Alice halfway through part 2 of the VN, it's just how it doesn't work.
>>574423197He doesn’t even meet black alice until part three.>hero beats demon>later>demon level grinds with fusion+2 and then literally eats an entire town JUST so she will be in perfect condition to hunt down and kill him, because everyone she knows and loves is dead at that point and she needs her true original full power to winI think that’s a pretty justifiable explanation, anon.
We meet again.
>>574423995Ah, you don't have Mini in your party, shame.
>>574424028She's not that useful yet unfortunately. Why? does something happen?
>>574424089Just a funny dialogue, that hint at her weakness. It's not that useful, but it's cute.
Oh?
>>574423826>He doesn’t even meet black alice until part three.That would be the point I was making, yes.Lilith origin is the original Lilith that existed before Minagi split her up, She's also eating the town because her power was spent up in a previous fight with Zion and Gnosis, Not to mention that this is part 3 Luka, who is incredibly more powerful than part 2 luka, regardless of trtr's powerscaling issues.
>>574424205Papa is always a step ahead. Praise Papa!
How convenient. I have just the thing.
>>574423197tbf Paradox Luka, especially combined with having allies canonically present, is WAY above the curve of VN Luka despite slower acquisition of the same powerups.Part 3 is a big spike of course but by the end of Part 2, it is very fair to say the party is stomping characters on the level of the Lilith Sisters or Base Eden.This is, of course, how the game is treating their strength in the narrative, irrespective of the difficulty of the actual gameplay encounter.On the subject of Part 1 and Part 2 encounters, the party is taking on Astaroth fairly in Part 1 and Lilith fairly in Part 2, while Lilith Origin is magnitudes stronger than the 3 even as a group. It's like Vegito vs Goku+Vegeta independently.Lilith individual just ain't that big a deal, like Base Eden. Lilith Origin is like Garden Eden.
>>574424315>audible glasses shine
Uh oh.
>>574424508You are not prepared.Also another good Mini dialogue though...
Oh hello there!
>>574424673How hard can it possibly be to just let the guy play with what characters he wants to play with
>>574424794She has a new frenemy!
>>574424824No one is telling him how to play?
>>574424824>>574424946It's fine, I get where the dude's coming from.
new anon seems extremely competent though, I don't doubt he can still beat the game at Paradox with the amount of grinding and gamesense he has
>>574425230How can you tell?
>>574425270is this some kind of ironic jab? I guess I did forget to reply to the >>574424824 chain regarding letting him play with who he wants. If he can beat Nanabi he's plenty ready for the game.
>>574425230He's going through the game at a pretty good pace yeahStill a hell of a long way to go since this game is longer than an ancient ovipostor
>>574425393He beat Nanabi by maxing out intermediate jobs/races before he even left iliasport though
This Bear girl dialogue makes me sad.That is the law of the jungle - "The strong defeating the weak... That is definitely the law of the jungle. But aren’t humans kinder than we are? Bears are dumb so we can only scare people away by attacking them... Unlike us, humans are smart. Is it really unavoidable?"I'm so sorry little one.
>>574424359exactly, thank you.>>574424208Luka had it in both situations, Eden just deleted her so he didn’t fall in the stomach acid pit by accident from her last lunge
>>574425393No. I meant the grinding part. He mentioned how he took out Nanabi there. >>574414327
>>574425526yes, that's why I said both grinding and gamesense
>>574425559Sooo... you are judging.
>>574425230I do pay attention to the game's mechanics but I keep track of my progress with the wiki. I have tabs keeping track of the location of blue/green chests, the battle fuckers, the medals, items/weapons/armour and enemy weaknesses/talking options and just where I'm supposed to be in the story in general
>>574425393>If he can beat Nanabi he's plenty ready for the game.I see what you did there.I see you.
>>574425695Just ignore him, the moment people decide you play the game wrong, itt's over.
>>574425768I can't even fathom thinking that a game as open ended as paradox can be played "wrong" heh
MICAELA!?
>>574426141Yet, people do that, you included. You'd be thinking we are in the souls community.
>>574426141mind pointing out when I said he was playing the game wrong? got the wrong guy?
>>574426160Anon, that's clearly ???.
Oh ew. On another note, it seems whatever the big bad faction is can't interfere with time non stop. Luka's still too "canon" right now.
>>574426160she's dead, Jim...
>>574426326Ew? How could you say that about sew a beautiful creature?
Oh. Thanks.>She diesNYOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>574426326>big badohnonononono, but I guess it makes sense given the first impression
>>574426421>NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOYou should be happy. Luka's job changed to Hero! Enjoy the free level ups!
>>574426421now you can finally play Luka the way he's intended to be played...
Interesting. I got myself the hero class. How good is it?
>>574426580Look at it yourself! Pretty hecking good.
>>574426580Kinda mid tbqh.
>>574426642Hmm Very interesting. Very clear anti yoma/vampire/succubi. I was hoping to get spellsword though. Is it possible use all of their skills at once? Although tbf, Luka can use heroism skills whenever he wants.
>>574426801if you sit on spellsword I think that'd work. Luka can pretty much use all the "physical" skills
>>574426160Remember which world killed you real aunt. and vaporize that world.
>>574426796You aren't tbqh.>>574426801The Heroism skills are the must have, at least for Luka, the first two skills will made some fights VERY easy, and that's without adding some of it's Abilities.>spellswordNormally you should just need to master Magician.I always thought it was a rather sucky jobline though, but the sword skills and some of it's Abilities are great.
>>574426972damn are all Iliasfags this annoyingI don't even want to associate myself with you guys like this
>>574426580In the most objective terms I can describe, middling job with good stat spread.It's mostly Fire+Physical attacks, with a number of "turning the tide" passives that provide benefits as the Hero and/or their allies fall in battle.It's hard carried by the early availability, stat spread, and Luka's high base stats.
>>574427050>kinda mid>you aren’t…aren’t what? He’s not mid, then?
>>574426801>>574426853>>574427235On a VERY related note.Should an attack have multiple Elements (whether inherently or if you say used a Hero attack with a passive that made your weapon attacks do Ice damage), Paradox falls into the Smart category and will use the most favorable Element when calculating damage.So if your Fire Hero attack had Ice imbued and you hit an enemy Immune to Fire and taking double from Ice, it would be calculated as the doubled Ice damage.
>>574427096only one or two ITT are.I feel you though
>>574427050Ok I think I’m getting the idea. Max out hero, then go for spellsword. Time for more grinding.
>>574428040Careful, grinding too much and you will be accused to not have played the game. For now it's alright but by Part 3...
>>574428109>plays game a lot>"nuh uh you didn't"w-what
>>574428181Yup.
>>574427096Retardbro... From where are you getting that the anon calling for the AW's destruction is an Iliasfag?
>>574429317It's probably just the guy himself samefagging and changing up his writing but too stupid to process his idiocy
>>574429317>>574429470meds
>>574429470He does have a distinct way to write.
We can all be a little schizo, as a treat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNzI1DVqlB0>scientists made an artificial brain and put it in digital hell to fight demonsPROMESTEIN
I'm schizo for my wife, Doppel,. I miss her so much
Let's be honest, the smart move is marrying Sara.
>>574430773tomboy rich girl royalty who isn't spoiled, has a good libido streak, AND on-demand succubi pussy? You'd be insane to pass her up
So how far along is the game's proper translation now? Been like 3 months since I last came by to check. Would you say the main story and sidequests are almost done or getting there?
>>57443239230% done I think, if we're talking part 3 from what I read here
>>574432392There >>574270789In other words, we are far from it.
>>574426421It's funny how this scene showed that Ilias really could have empowered her heroes in the VN, not just turn there gunk into disgusting gruel. Maybe she would have done what Michalea did here and actually strengthen Luka in the VN if there wasn't any interference, just because he was her special boy.
>>574432537Ilias really fumbled hard by letting Luka unbaptized.
>>574431686funnier option, marry Granberia and have sex with her in front of Sara
>>574432537According to one anon years ago, the Q&A confirmed Ilias was going to help Luka.>Q. If Luka and Alice didn't meet, did Ilias plan to let Luka fight with his normal sword until the end? Or did she secretly prepare Angel Halo mk-2 for him?>A. At first, there were careful plans put in place such as giving advice in blacksmithing and granting special Hero's sword just before the Demon Castle. All were foiled by Alice.
>>574433328better option have sex with granberia and sara and double team ganberia with her because her pleasure resistance is weaker than your just become a ball of erotic moaning flesh, a sex fight cloud only the scuffle noises replaced with plapping noises and kissing sounds
>>574433589Alice is truly the worst girl.
>>574433589This does seem to correlate well with Heinrich getting Lucifina's sword in his own journey. Ilias probably ordered her to give it to him after some quest or something. Still, from the way those hero goobers acted in the VN, they didn't sound like they got the mastery of multiple job classes like how Luka did. Maybe Ilias unintentionally screwd the heroes up by giving them a permanent 100% no-encounter, leaving them unable to get EXP.
I need to make this clear, is this saying that heroic skills START from 30% and gain 2% for each % of missing hp? Or is it you can gain UP to 30% more dmg for heroic skills?
>>574434309Luka get +30% using Heroism AND Heroism skills deal +2% damage per % lost. (instead of 1%)Are you starting to understand the insanity yet?
>>574434413jesus christ. So maximum is like, 129% more dmg?
>>574434460Yes.Though iirc it stop at... 30% HP? Whch is why a certain piece of equipment is busted, that you won't see until a looooong while.
>>574434460level up hero of justice later, it's funny as fuck
>>574434309Welcome to crisis mode.Luka has the best skill set attached to his health pool. There will be others with similar traits where their power increases as their health drops, but they are mostly going to be attached to inferior skill sets, like a race or weapon skill.Heroism is just incredibly busted.
>>574434651Most characters who has Crisis have +1% at one skill. Very rarely, you have +1,5%."Fuck this shit." Luka said calmly, with his +2%.
I have created a monster. I decided to beef Luka's custom sword to Holy custom because 4 attributes was pretty useful and it was a Luka exclusive sword so it felt special. I decided to go to the beach to test out his damage and lowered Luka's HP as far as it can go.I feel like Oppenheimer watching his magnum opus materialise before his very eyes. This isn't even halfway into the game.
>>574434949>6204>I feel like Oppenheimer watching his magnum opus materialise before his very eyes. This isn't even halfway into the game.Oh this is cute. I feel so nostalgic too!
>>574434309It's two separate effects, traits should probably be reformatted someday. His trait looks something like this>Can always use [list of skill types]>Heroism skills deal +30% damage>Heroism skills gain +2% damage for every missing % of HP
>>574434949hey, where's your childhood friend and loli snake?
>>574434625>This is an actual classWtf lmao>>574437848Sonya I leveled up a bit for priest skills, alice I uh...
surely our new meat didn't make these mistakes,right?
>>574437848Sonya is kinda ass desu, and not in the literal sense since she got that.I'm in part 3 now and I still don't know how to build her. She's just a heal button in my team
I don't think I'll even need spellsword at this point. The sword I've given Luka already does everything spellsword does without having to waste a turn.
>>574438201funny innitand it keeps getting stronger
>>574438189her club skills come off her will rather than her attack thanks to her trait but yeah, she doesn't do much, the limitations of being a mere human.
>>574424673
>>574438601Don't know why TrTr just didn't have her use Attack for both Club Skills and White Magic. She even has her own crisis mode for Club Skills, but because Willpower will be lower than her Attack, her Club Skills will have awful dmg. It's mind-numbing how awful this trait is.
>>574439164Why does monster man not really want you to use human woman in monster game? Jee, I don't fuckin know!, Sonya's only there to act as a heal bot til you get something better, the only reason to keep her in the party line up is if you like her as a character, thankfully we don't have such weaklings in this general, eager to fall for a human woman of all things
My fucking God. Spoiler that you dumbasses.
>>574434949>>574435019tbf that is quite high for Part 1 item+ability damage.>>574438601>>574439164I thought both her Club and White Magic use the higher of Atk or Will.Whenever an ability uses a different stat, it doesn't lose the base version, it just turns into a "Higher Of" the two, like Breath and Dark Arts.
>don't want to be raped by monster>the monster rapes>want to be raped by monster>the monster doesn't rapeHOW DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE
>>574439384>human woman
>>574439384Human women are more monstrous than the monsters!
>>574439164All traits that replace stats only uses the highest between the two, it's not a demerit it just lets you use club skills if you build her as a priest or let you use healing skills if you build her as an orc.
>>574439592I believe Sonya doesn't have the trait of "skills can use -enter stat-" if said stat is higher. Her skills are hard-locked to a specific one for some reasons.I think it's supposed to be a DQ reference, but it ultimately nerfs Sonya's abilities. Maybe TrTr wanted to present her growing inferiority complex in gameplay too as a meta narrative, but Sonya isn't represented as that weak in the story anyways.
>>574439685see the monsters don't do consent, even when it benefits them
>>574440541>I think it's supposed to be a DQ referenceI don't think Sonia even had the Atk and Will scaling situation in base Paradox?And which is more likely? That her "use other stat" works like everyone else's, or that Sonia is the only character in the game to have her trait function completely differently for a "reference" so vague you declined into gibberish.
>>574439685All monsters are sadists. What's so hard to understand?
Lmao
Even orc-chan doesn't want to rob anything from the village. Poor girl.
Promestein! What did we tell you about leaving your labroratories lying around!also>Luddite villagers dug their heads in the sand insisting this was a temple for Ilias>turns out its the complete opposite of their primitive beliefs.lol. LMAO.
>Not only is it mechanical, its the SOURCE of the church's use of MakinaKEKAROOOO
>>574442138But wait, there's more!
PROMESTEEEEEEEEEEEEIN
>>574442138it's so funny seeing you lug around a chest
>>574442461XX-7 was in the VN, same premise.It's actually disappointing she's an irrelevant mass encounter NPC since lorewise she should be relatively impressive.
Stop bullying Promestein, even if she deserves it.
>>574442461>"Who are those grimacing people that occasionally come here? Whenever I feel like it, I catch them and squeeze them out, but...">Clergy - "So that’s why they have no sex appeal... Are they trying to convert us?"The Church knows these abominations are in here, they know their goons are targets of rape, but they still send them anyways. MGQ is a comedy.
>>574442638She was pretty irrelevant in the VN too. Getting one shotted by Chrome before she even fights Luka.Also, for a monster/angel fusion, she has no real monster or angel race to her kit. She is a pretty typical droid/chimera.
THATS NOT A NON LIFE THREATENING SITUATION AIEEEEE
>>574443848Promstien will look at this and say "my ancestor"
>Priest king is actually a fucking cyborg
Do you think Promestein gets bullied in the castle showers
>Priest king is pissed at Lazarus, not because he tried to kill him, but because Lazarus' method had way too many risks of hurting people outside the King.I like this guy.
Well damn ok.
Oh hello there.
>>574441289The birth of a meme.>>574444652I really wish Luka's swords had unique sprites.>>574444781A non important character appeared!
>Luka touches the control panel>whatever dna shit he has activates the sleeping beauty.Oh god damn it.
>>574444906>whatever dna shitHMMMMM
>>574444374I imagine she's the one that bullies others by scowering the shower drain for dna samples
>Girl calls herself brynhildr>Seeing the situation, priest king steps in to help>Sonya tries to get him to safety>TURNS OUT PRIEST KING ISN'T JUST A CYBORG, BUT A COMBAT FUNCTIONAL ONE AS WELLKINOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>574401061There still the novel to come
>>574401061It was supposed to end more than 10 years agoyou're lucky we even got paradox
>>574445081Pretty cool huh?
Master eh?
>>574444781One of the Great Walls of paradox mode
>>574444374This is a japanese game, that uses japanese humor. Obviously she is the one doing the bullying, even though everyone should look at her and punch that dumb, wiseless cute nerd.
>>574444906She has a surprisingly cute voice in MMTD. I imagined her sounding like a more robotic KOS-MOS.
>You just straight up get to recruit Mecha PopeWell thank you!
>>574445268HMMMMMMMM.Yeah uh, the game isn't exactly subtle.
>>574445436I actually don't know who the game's hinting at, but I suppose it's something related Luka, probably IS Luka in some shape or form.
>>574445434I'm not happy that he is one of those characters that got straight up replaced by a better verion. Cyber Knight stole his Robocop theme.
>>574445434>>574445564He's a lot better now than he was at launch with the additional Roid races added to the game.He used to have Human and I don't think anything else? Like ridiculously terrible.
>>574445081MECHA POPE.Kinda interesting as he did have a mention he was into mechanical things with the little talk about clocks in the vn.
>>574445541Anon I... the hints are literally all there already...>>574445564At least, he didn't get the Grandgold King treatment.
>>574445541go do route 3 and back out at the choice.. and go yeah this is stupid i shouldnt make a baby or do route 3 before you are ready as in done the other 2.
>>574446004the game isn't subtle about pushing you to route 3, the collab literally tells you that you should do that and then trap you into that little cutscene as a result
>>574446004I find it morbid how it mean that a few Luka died. I mean, we all saw the endings were it's implied our Luka made a happy ending for everyone, including himselves, but still.
Damn. Chaos got to us 100 replies early.
>>574445975GG King went from top tier to middling tier, but still holds a unique kit. Mecha Pope was always middling tier, and his unique race kit gets copied by two much better units. No way was he done dirtier than the Pope.
>>574445975I genuinely don't know what I was supposed to be looking at lmao. Either way, I'll just say it contributes to the surprise.
>>574446381Meanwhile, Sabasa King get a unique but subpar kit, and so did Grand Noah. T-thanks, game...Can we agree they were both done dirty though?
>>574446471For my part, I was half-right in what I was speculating way back in Part 1.It's not worth dwelling on anyway because you don't need to wait a decade to get an answer.
>>574446471If in the following hours you still don't get it, I will bully you a lot.
>>574446613There is a caveat to all this, in that because they didn't get a Part 3 upgrade, they might get one during the NG++ route. Those upgrades are probably going to be much better than the base game upgrades, because TrTr can't be consistent. I hope he will finally give one of them priority Ruling, because that skill set has been ignored for too long.
>>574447010Anon for the love of God, have some respect for the guy who's playing the game blind.Ruling is such a joke, like holy shit. Ruling is one of the skill set that was done REALLY dirty. A far cry from the gamebreaker it was.Thank you Trtr, for Sword > Ruling > Heroism. Really useful. I'm touching myself in front of it harder that on Alma at the sheer erotism of it...
Hey! Ruling has uhhh magus king? Which is good for part 2. still wasnt as good as alicestromia but not everyone can be BA roleplaying a mage
>>574447526I can't wait to see his reaction to it, bro is going to be so happy.
>>574447350I'm not really sure what I'm spoiling, but I'll try to avoid it. What is funny is TrTr seems to have wanted to designate the GG King as the prime Ruling unit. In Part 3, his ancestor's sword can be acquired, and upgraded to get similar stats to character exclusive items. The weapons main attributes was to power up Ruling Skills by a lot, but Part 3 didn't do much with the skill set at all.
Lmao Luka's good at math
>>574448659Luka reccetear clone when
I guess that spells it out pretty blatantly? Surely Marceldaddoo wasn't a scientist or some shit?
>>574448201NG++ and Ruling, and the implications of who will use Ruling, and how they will fall off. Though I may be overzealous.Meanwhile, I'm just here praying for Ruling and Spellsword. I feel that Piracy is a bit weak too.
>>574448659He has always been remember back at the ama ama dango inn in iliasburg in the vn inn he quickly calculated how long they could stay there pretty quickly which was a specific amount of seconds iirc.
>>574450234TRUE. He did do that!
>>574428040Arent you on very hard? You don’t really need to go that far yet. Just play the game and level it naturally during the story.
>>574451209Oh I'm grinding because I want to. It just kinda annoys me seeing an incomplete job/race.
>>574451597>an autismoit's over... he's never finishing the game...
>>574451597based, that's the most fun way to play
>>574451597Im starting to understand why everyone here seems to eventually shit on this game by claiming the game is too easy or combat is bad despite going out of the way to grind all the difficulty out of the game, when you’re just supposed to play through it normally by leveling jobs as you go to new areas like any other rpgat least you’re having fun so far I guessDid you visit Hades yet? I don’t remember. I think that’s where you can change difficulty if you feel like it. It’s the second floor of Ilias temple with the key the rabbit dropped from Iliasburg.
>>574451910well, that’s just an opinion.I wouldn’t agree with it, but it is what it is.
>>574451772Lmao im not going to go THAT far, just the races/jobs that actually contribute to the monster’s niche.>>574452818For me, the fun comes from gaslighting monsters into my castle then seeing what my new toys are like. Its not like my journey’s been brainless by any means either. It’s easy now because i did my research on jobs/races and I’m feeling pretty gratified honestly. If nothing else the story has me hooked
>>574451597>another grindtist has entered the threadthat’s disappointing, but at least you’re not a sped about it so I’ll just have to settle for seeing your reactions to the story instead of anything else
>>574453547I only grind when I see a monster I like or find cool and I want to use as soon as I can. I’m not going to do shit like farm until lvl 100 or shit like that. Don’t worry
>>574453370Well that’s good. Talking to monsters is always really fun too yeah. Hopefully there’s still something challenging for you, but if you are playing that way I would honestly recommend turning the difficulty up because that’s the exact mindset those difficulties were specifically designed for, and you’ll feel more satisfied when you punch up with the versatile skillets your team has obtained.But I’m glad you’re really enjoy the story too, as the story is a great part of the fun as well, so I look forward to your reactions to it too. If nothing else I’m just glad you’re having fun with it. Only using the jobs that are relevant to a character helps too.
>cum three times inside a fox>wake up and hear thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIctYoABVTk
>>574453712well that’s fine, sorry anonjust got tired of hearing people complain about stuff after doing that like it’s not self inflicted or something is all
>>574445370she sound like rei from EVA iirc?
>>574453712>lvl 100To be young again.
>>574455236I fondly remember when the cap was 60 (then 70)
>>574455521I remember when there was a level cap in the first place!
>>574455521I remember when it was 30...
>>574448201Why does the Lost Magus King Sword upgrade into something that is simply called V? It just comes off as really random. Is there some significance in Japanese culture for the symbol of V?
>>574456384
>>574456386Nta but for some reason, I believe this is a Devil May Cry reference, because I cannot think of anything else.
>>574456384I remember when insect popes were the meta
Newanon here, I think it’s definitely way too early to worry about this, but I’ve noticed this weird collab story thing that happens after part 2 and from what I read it looks kinda bad but at the same time there’s certain stuff locked behind it. Should I bother with it when I reach the point?
>>574457913People may think it's good or bad, but you should anyways to get as much content as you can. You will be blown away by certain characters!Slight spoiler about what you get, but not precisely what kind: You can get the classes way, way later in Part 3 without doing the collab, but the classes are way too good to pass them up, on top of one of them forcing you to backtrack a bit.
>>574457913you should at least experience it for yourself instead of taking others opinions at face value. i personally enjoyed it but it can be a bit of a slog to get through
>>574457913The collab event, and the collabs that also happened in other games, came at a time when Part 3 was going through a rough development. It teased a lot of the future content, and helped build up the hype for Part 3.The issue of course, is such hype isn't needed if you jump into Part 3 immediately after Part 2. You are playing the collab for the collab characters, jobs, and race change items, maybe some cute character interaction in the 2nd half where most of it takes place in the Pocket Castle. The story itself is not interesting, but its ties to events of Part 3 are.
>>574457913it isn't terrible, it's just a bunch of kinda nothing that's quite a slog imo, and it was probably nearly half as long as a part for meNo encounter passives are your friend
>>574457913If you let the loudest anons dictate what and how you play, it's your loss.You like playing Paradox, don't you? You like the characters and the interactions? Maybe the comedy too? If you do, then give it a try. At most it's a few hours you lose.
>>574457913Its whatever. You get a passive that gives luka pleasure damage if you want and theres a bunch of extra weapons you can get only usuable by collab guys. I did the collab but i don't use any of them in my party
>>574459548>spoilerAnon...
>>574458687everyone’s telling him the same thing you are though (re; its hit or miss but should still try it out anyways)
>>574459636sorry, didn’t really think about it.I’ll just say I still agree with everyone else though and even if it’s very subjective, it’s still worth playing it to see what you feel about it. I still believe there’s good high points to the collab, even if I didn’t find it good overall, and it’s worth doing at least once.
>>574459896That was the best part. Harpyanon... you DISAPPOINT me! Or something.
>>574434309>>574434460They stack separately so it's more like 258%>>574434776Well Heroism already has +1% crisis for anyone so Luka is really just having that but for the skill that already has it.
>>574457913Crank it down to Very Easy and roll the forced party segments, then do whatever.
>>574460081My Wife has outsped Daystar, so she can’t lose!although someone else on the team triggered it and shot themselves in the foot iirc.
>>574459687They're telling him now because he mentioned others saying its bad. Usually the only ones who mention the collab these days do it to call it trash.Also I never said it's hit or miss. I actually liked it. Just said he'd lose a few hours at most because I'm well aware he might not enjoy it after all for a variety for reasons, such as forced parties and not having played any of the other games.
>>574460523trtr modified the difficulty because he didn’t want people to feel like that had to do that.
I think the collab is worth playing on a second playthrough
>>574460864“hit or miss” means some people liked it, some people didn’t, and some have mixed views on it. Which I think is entirely accurate and a fair perspective. I didn’t like it as a whole but there are still many good parts about it, and it’s fair to give it a chance.
>>574457913Collab has its high points and low points. Issue is some of the collab games are good, and some are bad, and trtr was able to do more with the good ones. Overall even if it had issues, I'm glad I played through it once.
>>574455521tbe part 3 demo increased it to 90 iirc
>>574431686>tomboyNo she's just a dull blown dyke>Richby the end of part 1 i have so much gold i could buy the entire continent>royalitygreat she's inbread and a dyke>good libido streakIlias,Alice and Sonya are all better an hotter>succubi pussy>wanting roastie pussylol, lmao even
>>574465958>anonGay!
>>574466338No. But your "waifu" sure is
>>574465958the only non-roastie pussy is from angels
>>574467326wouldn't low level kitsune have non-roastie pussy too since they kidnap and marry dudes
>>574468679Tamamo broke the code, let a man bust twice in you and then let him go, or go after already married men
The loli bandits were experienced in sex, meaning they probably did it multiple times with guys that are not Luka. Their profiles sound like mostly anti-monster propaganda, but there is some truth to it.It's the same with Kitsu.
>>574471372Just gotta find a good girl like Mini who hasn't ever had sex before.
>>574471372in a lot of cases it seems like they learn from watching what the mom or someone else does.definitely not the case for those four though.
>>574472334>they learn from watching what the momWhat mom? lmao
kitsunes literally just transform from normal foxes with enough magic fuckery...
>>574472597I literally said that doesn’t apply to the bandits immediately after that ffs
"Cave exploring" with your fox wife...
>>574473232I was talking about monsters in general anon, its more rare that a 'mother' sticks around and they aren't just abandoned >>574473418Shove all foxes into nutty putty
>>574473560most monster girls learn by example. usually it’s by watching their mom, which applies to pretty much every single one that lives in a civilization or colony. if not the mom, then a sibling or someone else.even for most of the wilderness species the mom raises them for a short period of time to teach them how to survive, and then sends them out so they know how to do things, not dissimilar to young animals only sticking around for a short period in order to learn the information it needs passed down before leaving to make it on their own. it’s only a certain number of strengthtism races that just completely abandon their children at birth and leave them with absolutely nothing.Most of the examples given in the game being either powerful yoma or dragons, because they’re terrible parents. IIRC it’s implied Vanilla’s abandonment was unusual for Vampires due to how their society works; comparatively Mini wandered off by accident. There’s also certain species that just inherently know how to do things, but a lot of those are insects or artificial in some nature (re: escaped chimera).
>>574474421Don't monsters see their children as competition and get rid of them, such as the imps?
>>574473418"Cave exploring" with your succubus wife...
>>574473560I will shove my "nutty" into every fox's "putty".
>>574474642Some monsters see their children as food.Tiny might have been at risk of being eaten by her mother, depending on just what kind of lamia she was born from. Papi was straight up abandoned, that is just dragon society doing its thing. Gob is just having an adventure and can go back home whenever she wants. Vanilla is probably an orphan, since vampires see themselves as a high class species that honors family/clan, and dumping their kid sounds pretty lowborn as you can get.
Ilias? CuteAlice? Ugly
>>574413931Riot is such a cool dragon girl. Back in parts 1 and 2, I cheesed land-dweller, insect, and chimera on her. Land-Dweller for poison claw beast skills and their slime skills. Insect for their unarmed and tail sting skills. Chimera for artificial skills. The idea being that she'd use digestive slime and poison to mimic battery acid in addition to using ice and electric skills as a sea dragon/dragonkin/chimera. She got really strong.
>>574475414Maybe on OPPOSITE day
>>574473560>how do animalOn average the kids stick around for a few weeks or months to a few years depending on what they are to learn the basics and then leave, which is pretty much the only reasonable way all the species filling on for animals would work in the wilderness.>>574474642It depends on the monsters. Once animals get to a certain age, their own parents will usually start viewing them as competition depending on how the species behaves (such as mostly solitary ones), but that’s often happening if the child stays in the same area (re: refuses to move out) and thus now competes for resources with them. Frequently the young who don’t leave at a certain point are either kicked out, or killed by the parents. I know female scorpions will eat any offspring who refuses to leave them for too long a period for example. The Monster Girls in the wilds are generally described as behaving in ways similar to this, giving the basics and then having the children leave (one way or another) so they can continue elsewhere. It’s also self defeating to just murder all your children without giving them a chance. If they behaved that way there would be a lot less of them and it wouldn’t make as much sense.Dragons are stated to frequently abandon their children out of pride on the basis dragons are strong and don’t need anything, rather than out of competition.I don’t actually remember anything about the Imps though. I never cared much for them so I never really bothered beyond finding the idea of midget succubi acting like wild animals or homeless hooligans being kind of funny in a way. Most Succubi in the game don’t seem to abandon their children though, and raise them like you would expect.
>>574475217I think Teeny is the only one who never has her background elaborated on, now that I think about it. Vanilla was orphaned, Gob’s on what amounts to a field trip and Papi is just the typical dragon story.
>>574476272The only thing we do have is Teeny being a really good housekeeper, even before she was made an apprentice of the innkeeper. She kept the other bandit's clothing clean, kept their cave fort tidy and organized, and fed the others because she was the only one who knew how to cook.So maybe she did grow in a regular household, with a lamia and her husband before that ended badly, or she just ran away.
>>574438201I haven't been back to part 1+2 since part 3 came out so idk if it's been changed or if I'm misremembering, but iirc, spellblade skills used to stack on top of [element] strike of the same element by way of applying like a +50% [element] booster.
>>574474895"Cave exploring" with your futa monster girl wife...
>>574439685>think you want to be raped by monster>you actually don't
>>574478676That's a normal human high school student, actually.
>>574439685You must rape the monsters
>>574478676NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooookay.This is literally what human men sound like.
Cave exploring with Hiruko
>>574483086Based wife.
>>574483086This is Alice 1st's fault.Everything is her fault.
My goddess Iliad.....
>>574483086why are they talking sideways
So grinding a lot means you didn't beat the game huh? Wow, sure would suck to be someone whose autism activated when they discovered mimic island and grinded jobs for 20 hours haha, good thing that wasn't me!Haha...Can I be forgiven if I bumped the difficulty up to paradox afterwards and didn't grind jobs if I thought it wouldn't fit the character? Except the maid job, everyone became perfect maid for the juicy x2 job xp passive. And luka, who became a master of every intermediate job and half of the advanced ones
>>574486814Do as you want honestly, and FUCK people who tell you t hat grinding is bad.It's in Part 3 that people will really judge you for it... for something you will know at that moment. Not spoiling, but FUCK them too.
>>574487141I grinded inside my waifu every night. I don't care who judges me.
>>574487598Lewd
>>574485625Japanese is a sideways language.It's a mutant writing form of glorious Chinese.
>>574486814Honestly mimic island is the best place to grind imo since you get no normal experience so you can’t get overleveled anyway. There’s only one thing that excessively grinding in the endgame causes problems for, but that’s only if you wanted the game to actually be difficult at any point.If you just want to kill everything in one hit or something go ahead. I only really take issue with people bitching about the lack of difficulty or complaining the game is too easy AFTER they do this as if it’s not completely self inflicted.
>>574487141Oh I'm already midway through the part 3 angel route, I know about proof passives, I also grinded a bit but not nearly as much as I did in part 2, mostly to speed up jobs that I didn't intend to use as the main ones. I'm still finding some bosses difficult in paradox difficulty so I don't think I overleveled, though maybe that's because my party consists mainly of story relevant characters since I don't want to miss their interactions instead of better modern recruits, some of them like promenstein really fell off
>>574487886go away bugman
>>574487141If someone grinds to the point of one-hit-killing every single boss fight in a game because they’re too impatient to play rpgs and have the fight last longer than a minute, I reserve the right to voice my opinion and/or make fun of people for doing it.If this offends you then cope. If you choose to turn the game into a walking sim then you might as well have used the ruler to set all their hp to 1% because the outcome is the same.
>>574488321Keep in mind that you can disable the Proofs but no one will take you seriously even if you do, and will just act as if yoou one hit killed everything.
>>574488672What? The point of RPGs is to grind and get stronger one shoting bosses is peak. Crushing every enemy underneath and making them realize that fighting you was a mistake
>>574488945And it doesn't stop you from using strategy.Of course, people will ignore either cases.
>>574488321nta but that’s fine anon. If you’re hoping to keep the game challenging, as long as you’re not extensively grinding proofs you should be fine and still be able to play it normally on Paradox. If bosses on paradox are difficult that’s a good sign I think! Paradox difficulty encourages some grinding, Part Three just has the potential to get out of hand if you grind too much is all.>>574488945NTA; Some people think one hit kills are fun and some think it makes the entire experience become incredibly bland and boring.In my opinion it’s usually boring as fuck and kills any interest I have. It’s no fun if I don’t have to try. But I will also actively start weakening my team if if gives the boss more of a fighting chance, which I acknowledge isn’t really standard either, I just find it mindnumbing boring if the enemy can’t do anything because what’s even the point then.Trying to set up a one turn kill that could fail but might succeed if you get lucky is fun to me though since it’s more of a gamble.
>>574488945Sorry but this is based on modern Pokemon. You're not supposed to level your Charmander to a level 100 Charizard but meant to drop him for Mega Rayquaza asap
>>574474895More games need this fetish.
>>574489541>. But I will also actively start weakening my team if if gives the boss more of a fighting chance,I do the same anon when I had all of those EXP collars in MGD. DOES A MONSTER FEEL FEAR?>>574489087Of course, sometimes leveling can only take you so far for now, strength and strategy has to come together >>574489865I hate that, I always go and play with mon that I like, if what I like is meta that's great if not, It won't stop me
>>574490321It's a much more common fetish in giantess games than monster girl games for obvious reasons. I believe every circle tekua game has at least two or three scenes with it if you're interested though.
>>574489865I can't evolve Reina with a stone. What is happening? Same with Lime.>>574491178The real problem aren't the proofs themselves too, it's doing one hit Crisis Heroism. Proofs are fine imo, especially if you play on Paradox difficulty. Trying to survive the bosses isn't that hard if you are prepared, like using Dance, Singing, or Shield Hero skills and such properly.
>>574489865You’ve reminded me how drowned in yellow paint and handholding mons has gotten and how some idiots still think it’s not enough because thinking is too hard for some people. The games were always held together by duct tape and the setting but it really did just keep getting exponentially worse. The idea of a Paradox Nuzlocke is inherently funny to me though. Maybe I’ll try that sometime.>>574491178Good lad. Man of quality.
>>574491540To be fair using Medicine skills to more than double your maximum health helps a lot too.
>>574492003Doping too, though I found that it didn't help that much imho.Because there's the upgraded version. And also because Dispel. The motherfuckers
>>574489865Technically, Paradox is meant to be more like SMT. Those games also want you to move on to stronger demons, especially the earlier ones where demons don't level up, or learn new skills unless fused.
>>574492151Doping stacks with Doping+. The x1.5 bonus and x2 bonus doesn’t get canceled out, in fact I remember activating them both in one turn. Medicine chains into Merchantile right? I’m pretty sure I remember there being a chain for that and major doping with giant’s medicine just immediately gives you the full doping experience. I’m not sure if it was an oversight on trtr’s part or intentional but considering how hard paradox difficulty enemies can hit, it felt intentional at least. The stronger version is often sufficient enough but having both dopings can make a pretty big difference in certain fights.
>>574492326But how could it be SMT if there isn't any monster fusio- OH SHI
>>574492650>Medicine chains into MerchantileGood question, I was too close to my money and I just used Throwing (to always be protected), Holy, and obviously Dance and Singing.That, and Lucifina and Micaella GREATLY helped, though I favored Micaella.
>>574492879>Stronger than the Archangels>Stronger than LilithOrigin>Stronger than Ilias herselfTrTr might have went a little too far in redeeming the black sheep of the family.
>>574492879You know, I'm a bit vexed her final weapon doesn't have the gunspear skill implemented follow up, and in general.
>>574492326Actually thinking about it, there’s a lot of recognizable mon player stereotypes I’ve seen for it (here especially), Paradox is just SMT if it played more like Mons and the world was a DQ/FF parody.
I really cannot wait for translation anymore. I am a subhuman who cannot speak japanese (sorry for that) but i really want to play paradox part 3. Should I just bite the bullet and do MTL? Is it as bad as everyone says or understandable? I really want to understand the story. At the pace the translation is going, I might actually kick the bucket before it releases in a complete state
>>574467326>>574471372No matter when you get a monstergirl, it's already too late
>>574496791MTL in its current state is perfectly comprehensible, albeit definitely not perfect
>>574497434Thanks anon, that gives me hope. Never done MTL - do I need to set up some AI / large language model shit for this? Would you say it's difficult to set up?
>>574497225God I love Jahy so much.
>>574498320It's actually pretty simple. If you grab the 3.06 Raw in the OP (add a . between n and c) and the BobMTL link right below it, patching the game only takes like 10-15 minutes. Just follow the directions and you'll be fine.
>>574496791>Is it as bad as everyone says or understandable?The only real problems the MTL had were (fixed) issues where the patch accidentally overwrote a few story triggers in the very, very late half of the game, and Lady Mikabu's name changing every few seconds.And that last one MIGHT still be a "problem," but I haven't replayed in a while. You're out of your mind if you think I'm going to redo the entirety of part 3 just to double-check a funny name translation error
>>574491857pokemon was never really hard desuthey've removed a lot of the tedium over the years but the games are largely still the same at their core. it is made for kids after all>>574496791yeah the MTL is very passable, it gets some phrases and names bungled up but it's still better than waiting for another 2 years or more
>>574498530For me, it's big Jahy.
>>574499467>it gets some phrases and names bungled upMAGAZINE!
>>574499689Magafu....
>>574499689>>574499773Mabufudyne...
>>574498769thanks anon. if the game is 3.06 but bobmtl 3.04, will that work together?
>>574499689>>574499773>>574499889Why does AI hate the Ancestors so much? What did cute slimes ever do to it?
>>574500585Cute slimes did nothing. The problem is the uncute slimes.
>>574500643>uncute slimesOxymoron.
>>574500369It should be fine
>>574500585Written in a very old version of Japanese apparently. The AI can't seem to make up its mind when translating the Ancestor names, except for Kanon and Minagi who seems to avoid most of it.Saja gets called Sand Snake a bunch of times, Tamamo gets called White Faced Fox, Hiruko gets called Leech or Worm, and Kanade has a shitload of names.
>>574500952Just set a list of Preprocessors for the names, that way it will be correct every time.
What game engine would be good for Paradox 3D remake?
>>574499467I did say it was always held together with duct tape. It’s not that Pokémon was always “hard”, but it was harder (as in average or decently challenging, standard level), like an average game. And then GF starting stripping out certain things while forcing others to become unavoidable and chunking movesets to be pretty much impossible to lose against.I think it being a kids game isn’t the best excuse, because the older games were at the perfect balance for kids, not that difficult but still engaging enough. I haven’t seen a kid in my area who cared about it in years. I’m sure there’s still kids who do play it but combined with the constant declining quality from it and it’s just kind of sad.
>>574501743Something for VR.
>>574500952Thats because those are all what Saja, Tamamo and Hiruko’s names literally mean (the normal leech girl is also named hiru).IIRC Kanade meanwhile is just calamity or disaster in archaic spelling, which her name was very frequently changed to as well but I don’t know why it constantly butchered hers so much either.
>>574501743mysterious monster girl adventure graphics or old 64 crt filtered stuff, like how RPGMaker applies the filter to fuzz out the sprites so they look better. Something stylized could be cool too though.I’m speaking from the perspective of what I think would be fun for a normal game and not porn. I cannot imagine most scenes being anything but comical and it would be hard to take seriously.
>>574501743RPG Paper Maker could probably work nicely, considering it's... basically the same shit
>>574500952Minagi is apparently a very common name for girls, so the AI doesn't seem to have much issues with it. Still, it's written in pretty old Japanese that is rarely used, so typing Minagi's name in her kanji form on a search engine only bring up MGQ pages, no other fictional characters or real persons named Minagi.Kanon is really funny. Type her kanji in any search engine, and a Japanese model pops up instead. And this model is called Kanon, so the kanji is very much the same. I wonder just where TrTr came up with this name, because it seems to be a super rare name.
>>574502669And then there's Hiruko... you'd probably have to hate your kid to even consider naming them "leech"
>>574502845That is actually an easy one.Hiruko is names after Izanagi and Izanami's first child. The baby was boneless, and might have been a jelly fish, since the two were so disgusted with the being, they threw him into the ocean. Don't worry, this kid does get a happy ending by becoming a god of luck.Hiruko seems to be the only Ancestor named after a mythological figure, maybe Saja too since the name might have roots in Zoroastrianism, but since her name is in Archaic Japanese, it's kind of hard to say.
>>574501874they're kinda forced to streamline things because it's competing with the attention of f2p and mobile games now, though there needs to be some sort of balance. i'm kind of skeptical with the direction they want to take the series since they seem to be focused on experimenting with new concepts lately. the new games have potential to be good. that said, competitive battling is still fun
>>574502669Kanon is based off a deity from buddhism (kannon), original male and from India but eventually being a female by the time the story reached Japan. One of her forms is also called “thousand-armed kannon” and she is associated with lotuses.Kannon is also supposed to represent mercy and compassion, hilariously, but Gabriella is also an extremely benevolent and kind messenger often portrayed by media as generous and loving, so trtr just made both of them plants and flipped them both on their head. i didn’t actually know what kannon was until i saw this incidentally while looking something from MMTD up, but it does explain a lot about why she is the way she is.
>>574503512Gabriel not Gabriella but uh point still stands lol
>>574503310Anon I’m talking about things like removing the bike or implementing the EXP share as a toggable option only to suddenly remove the ability to toggle it and telling you “we thought of something more convenient, just put your Pokémon back in storage”. The sheer mountain of glitches and bugs in more recent titles does not help either. “Streamlining” is not the word I would use.>compWell, yeah, it can be sometimes.They castrated my favorite into being nigh unusuable in the format I like though so that’s always hung over it for me. They’re as good at balancing things as trtr.
>>574503512Gabriel does gets turned female sometimes because "her" role has the messenger of God that appeared in front of Mary while carrying around a white lily, a super feminine symbol. Of course the lily could just represent Mary, not the femininity of Gabriel.And that is why Gabriela is both a plant, and called the Lily of Compassion in MGQ.
>>574504260yeah that's why i said there needs to be a balance, removing the need for HM slaves and single use TMs and making breeding more accessible is good. the exp stuff is way too handholdy.
>>574504345Gabriel is the one most often portrayed as female, and I think in Japan this was heavily influenced by her in SMT II. The white lily is a symbol of God’s divine grace, but nowadays people view it in a much more feminine light, although it’s of course associated with Mary and Gabriel as well now.But yeh that’s why. I guess trtr just wanted to subvert expectations.
>>574504905Things like the bottle caps or no hm slaves or the ability capsule and stuff like that are all nice QOL improvements that let players play online faster without needing to just gen them in, I never had an issue with any of that. Doubtless that most people don’t feel like hatching 500 eggs unless they want the shiny.It’s all the other stupid shit they do and then try to mask that continuously aggravates me. Not even just the removal of convenient things but the ever increasing deluge of yellow paint and forced tutorials that behaves as if you have brain damage. It’s like every single playtester is DSP or something.
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>>574497225>>574498530>>574499549I can't unsee that she had a 2nd set of knife ears under her hair.Are all kemono monstergirls frauds?
>>574505404There is something really funny about Ilias, who is pretty much a stand-in for YHWH, or at least tries to pretend to be in a similar vein to the Abrahamic God, has her most loyal servant start to fall deep into a weird Japanese Esoteric Buddhism phase that still worships her. I don't know what TrTr was thinking with this.
>>574505404I can’t even hate the wojack here it’s the truth>>574505940It’s probably just because it looks cool to trtr or setouchi. The original “garden” form already had that imagery. IIRC setouchi said he felt the shrine maiden idea was fitting for Eden, which I guess from a Japanese point of view makes sense, but does kind of clash in a humorous way.
>>574491857>Paradox NuzlockeI've been thinking about that a lot lately, I'll probably try a nuzlocke run once I finish the story
>>574507048Just be advised that the collab is going to send a nuzlock run into a tailspin. Either you disregard what happens in it, or you skip the collab entirely.
Well now isn't this familiar?
Illias is literally the demiurge but even more pathetic
>>574507048NTA, I’ve tried one before, the save my run is on is still around for when I get back to it. It’s hard but I remember the biggest difficulty I had being “I am too invested” and certain girls getting axed was sad even if my favorites didn’t go down yet. However I did discover some hilarious cheese with one character on it that actually works (and is also the entire reason I beat certain areas and a couple bosses during the parts I played) so maybe I’ll get back to it eventually. Or just restart it, since I’m only at San Ilia.
What is the password for s749a9.zip (3.04 BobMTLV 2.1.3) zip file?
Don't just give me your fucking crack lmao.
>>574507881
>>574508610urmum
>>574507881Say hello to best girl for me.
>>574508610There's a password?Also why don't you download the 3.06 version with Tiny Improvements? It will be better.
>>574508721Snort it.But you really are using that Time Magic huh, it's pretty cool!
>>574509523Most likely because an anon told him to get that 3.04 version. The 3.06 version was a little annoying for me to get though, since I did try to do that a few days ago as I wanted to update from the prepatched 3.04 ver
>>574510017You can just grab 3.06 off of Ryuugames
>>574510017Doesn't 3.06 have a few QoL things?>The 3.06 version was a little annoying for me to get thoughReally? Something's wrong with the link?
>>574509646Its hilarious how petrifying an enemy counts as killing them.
>>574508721Say, stupid question, but do you have a Thief that can steal things?
>>574510424If we're talking about the Tiny improvement link, yeah. The MEGA link sucked until I gave up and went with the gofile link which apparently was another link lol, that one worked though.
>>574508721You have been stealing panties, right?
>>574510917>>574510726I do have someone who can steal, why?
>>574510726Harpies are no good for nothing thiefs and he's rocking reina
>>574510965Just wanted to say that trying to steal items and materials might be a good idea. You may even get a few surprises!>pantiesWell, Anon talked about it, so I guess I can, it's kind of a sidquest without rewards.
>>574510726Imagine how I feel trying to steal materials with a thief but then realize the one time I wanted to steal something they can't and it's actually a race locked ability
>>574510905Not just Tiny Improvement, iirc there's some stuff that the latest versions did, but I forgot.Some of the Tiny Improvements are godsend. Really love the modding community. Oi, if you are listening to me, a Happy Reina to you!
>>574510965In Pornof you can give stolen panties to Panty Sensei. You get rewards depending on how good the panties are.
>>574509523nta, how do I "patch" the raw 3.06 with the stuff in the Tiny Improvements link? Is there an instruction inside?
interesting.
>>574511717You just put them in the Patch folder after patching everything.
>>574512001Alright, thanks. Do I patch the manual translation over the mtl after patching the mtl, or is it included in the tiny improvement files already?
>>574512791Err; you download the game, put the OneClick Patcher folder into the Paradox Folder, you launch it. Wait. And then feel free to put what you want in Patch.Right guys?
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>>574510965If I remember correctly, Kamuro and (whatever the name of the less sexually attractive white-haired loli fox was, the one with the spats) have unique dialogue when they're both NOT in your party in (almost) EVERY city during part 1 and part 2. They're kind of like the Orc Girl on that point. If you recruited them both, you'll get some pretty fun dialogue if you find where they're hanging out, but I think they're required to NOT be in your party at the time in order to appear in town as NPCs
