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>>574344882he's inviting her into the mens bathroom so she can suck his dick in there
>>574344882>Current: https://r2.whiteboardfox.com/25927450-5503-0783>Previous: https://r2.whiteboardfox.com/25923893-0756-7267
sex with reply to this post or your mother will get jitterbugged in her sleep
>>574344876Too many irl feats now
There is no being more in self-contradiction than the transphobic Deltarune “fan”
Your love will become theirs and their love will become yours
>>574344882Bizzased OP
>>574344882
good thread.the only thing i would criticize is that there is a pippins wiki in the OP.cheers.
>>574345175if this were realistic it would be mad dummy 3 times but the understanding of camera angles, filters and makeup improves over time and also the dummy gets even wider
Jaronstantinople
Why does Kris work for the roaring knight.....
>that OPy'all retards don't even want the thread to be good. Fuck it, /utpol/ it is.
Personal creations anchor, reply to this post with your latest work!
from a few threads agopixel art is fun(sometimes)>>574345364
found a really cute ral
>>574345329find her duh. read the args which aren't in the game where all the important information should be
Gimme (You)s
>previous thread is closed, not archivedguys, stop /pol/ posting i get nervous when jannies are patrolling...
>>574345161This a very good gif
no
who's ready for chapter 6 ? what loadout do you have prepared and what flower items did you end up picking ?
RAAAH I LOVE FRILLY DRESSES AND BIG HATS
>>574345461There should be more images of the boy doing witch-type activities
>>574345540>closedThats weird
>>574345364pretend alphys fantasy is like 5000 times more degenerate and canon compliant
please?
I love slutty TV
>>574345161I’m going to hit Kris with a hockey stick when I get the chance
>This thread is now being reviewed by FBIuhh...
>>574345627I suck balls at this game's equipment system. When I was fighting Mew Mew I put Netskie hats and schizoboss items on everyone and the mannequinn on Kris and prayed for the best.
putting a fleshlight in one of these and calling it my wife btw
>>574345660Meant to reply to>>574345461
>>574345627Got the specs. Don't remember my entire loadout, but I got Dealmaker and Mantle on Kris for the sheer imlpied edgelord look
>>574345627We cant equip broken scarf yet...
>>574345151made for me coming home and groping him while he makes dinner
Kris licking chocolate syrup off Dess' nipples
I like catgirls
>>574345771Good, you make your president proud
>>574345669SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>>574345627my last save is before fighting Pink, I think I'll go back through again and get the cunny knife on the off chance that it can be synthesized into a better item but mostly just out of loyalty to aqua
Why yes, I did pick the aqua knife and always have it equipped. How can you tell?
>>574345873he prefers little boys
>>574345528i freakin heckin wub my freakin heckin scrunkly wunkly gooter wooter lil potato biscuit flufferino cutey patootie flowery lil dunkly boy child gooty sheepy bunny wunkly friend i and i want to pick him up and hug him and squeeze him and leave him all of my material possessions when i die and
>>574345661you're so right because he literally has a cauldron i wonder if the intent was for him to be more explicitly witchy at some point...>>574345801good taste
>>574345364
>>574345660Why is she doing a durag Johnson impersonation?
>>574345669Yes good
>>574345970jannies stop doing gaster shit im schizophrenic and youre not helping
>>574344882Hooman!
>>574345708Cringe
>>574345970Looks like the thread is Sans now
LETS GET DOWN TO BUSINESS AND VALUE VALUE THE FUN
>>574345914>>574345931Aquamind
>>574345627i'm gonna have to cheat to beat pink but ill get it later
>>574345975damn.why is she gay.
Gaster blasters weren't invented by Gaster. Sans made them to fight him with
>>574345852Cat tits
>>574345803did you only get one flower item ? makes me wonder if we'll be able to get them in any other way if we didn't collect them within chapter 5 (like with hole for shadow crystals in hometown)>>574345816you can actually it even gives bonus stats to ralsei
>>574346128You don't have to cheat
Kill all aquapedos
So, what do you guys think Asriel is going to be like? I think this is an interesting, and genuinely open question at this point. Collectively, Flowery and Ralsei have filled all three narrative "niches" that Asriel filled in Undertale.>ralsei is the fluffy boy cinnamon roll>flowery is flowey>flowery is true pacifist asrielFlowery and Ralsei have taken even his mannerisms. I genuinely don't know what to expect from this character anymore. I think it's also telling that Asriel's return is seemingly going to coincide with the end of the "fun" times. It seems like his arrival will coincide with a darkening in tone. What does it all mean?
>starts Weird Route
I saw a picture of Mew on r34 and decided to play the game last night, I don't really get whats going on though? Why does the dark world have lights in it if it's dark? And who is "Gaster"? I been lurking and I see him a bunch xP
>>574346113BRUSH THOSE THEORIES OFF NOW, OUR MYSTERY, MYSTERY MAN
>>574345771I hope you fall asleep and your mother walks into your room and finds the plushie wrapped around your dick
>>574345141You're a non dialectic thinker
>>574346295Noelle be like
>>574346273Noelle has more in common with Flowey than Flowery does.
I said Gaster in front of the mirror and I woke up in a dumpster with cum in my ass
>>574345125NOT THIS TIME SANS!!!
>>574346295gaster is a fanon character who only exists in deltarune memes and fanart, like daddy sans and togore. Most people only talk about Gaster as a big fandom in-joke
>>574346456This makes no sense. How would you notice the cum in your ass?
>>574346258... with kindness!
>>574346253>did you only get one flower item ?Yeah, I didn't have the patience to collect more coins after the schizoboss fight
>>574346128if you do that just give yourself the FavSandwish item, it's a +15 doki when using Susie's share food act so the fight becomes a joke>>574345914the AquaKnife will always suck its time to let it go
>>574346390noelle likes skinny twinks (kris) and hot muscly women (susie) actually
>>574346526Fingerd it
>>574345627I am readyOf course the true gear check is how many revive mints and party/tp heals you have hoarded.>>574346253You get it after Ralsei leaves the party at the end though. You dont have the ability to equip it.
>>574346276Why is GODley there?
>>574346456This happened to me but I liked it so I tried to do it again and it didn't work. Kinda sucks that you can only do it once.
moe...
>>574346456ralsei...
>>574346593wow that's very gay
>>574346273I believe he's one of the old heroes and there will be some reveal with the documents Asgore was investigating, in particular those about an "old" dark world
>>574346456Fun value of 69
>>574346636He's the Sayori of Delta Club
>>574345803Based and same.
>>574341201 So is it the imaging that makes us go deaf? Because when we close our eyes in the tea party example, we can still hear. Another Chapter 4 scene that comes to mind is when we are told to imagine Susie getting the grand piano song. Ralsei walks off, presumably in search of the final prophecy panel to hide it. What does Kris have to say about this? Are you suggesting half of the Lancer Fan Club is actively conspiring against the other? I understand Kris and Ralsei are both liars, but if they are coordinated, it makes the betrayal of Susie extentionally worse. Makes it funny /v/ tards are crying about Kris getting cucked.
Ignore this person, draw Kris Deltarune with a bodysuit so tight that their buttt and dick/pussy are visible
>>574346735That's Natsuki dummy
love all aquafriends
>>574346649
>>574346152Gay dad
Anyone else notice how the dialog quality has declined each chapter?
>>574346854thank god he dies in ch5.
>>574346886Toby wrote this in 30 seconds cut him some slack
>>574346886No and that post is dumb as fuck
>>574346776>/v/tards out of nowhereYou faggots deserve /pol/rune general
>>574346607>stopped using the shadowmantle and jevilstailhow could you do that to our fav schizobosses ?also while we technically can't equip it yet to ralsei I'm sure come chapter 6 toby won't remove the ability to give him the scarf
Fave enjoys the warm weather as an excuse to go commando
>>574346776When you think of Susie, the SOUL is temporarily connected with her which is why when she gets in a battle with the Gerson statue, Kris is able to follow the SOUL there in the dark. Kris just closing their eyes doesn't do anything except black out your vision, they have to send you away to Susie first.
>>574347029>being insecure that /v/ is being mockedThe hit dogs are hollerin'...
>>574346886The way Chapter 5 has critics out measuring the Iambic pentameter of the dialogue is testament to how your average internet used can't into literary critcism
>>574347029been here for quite a while.
>>574346812if i was better at art i'd draw him getting manhandled by various dark world creatures and suffering from costume damage but alas blue skin is erotic btw
>>574346838>>574347041
WormeI smooch
Do we know for sure that Deltarune ghosts can fuse with their bodies or could it be a UT only thing and Maddie is never gonna be able to move as the doll in the light world
Good morning PinKris nation how we feeling today
>>574346910He will die in ch7 when he (the knight) sacrifices himself to save Asgore
>>574347084What are you talking about?
>>574347079I haven't seen /utg/ getting mocked as much in /v/ as /v/ gets mocked here
>>574347105did you draw this thats a sexy catti. draw more catti
>>574347084Cinemasins really did a number on media criticism
>>574347051>trapped inside Susie with no way to move or do shit if she doesn't want to, only being sent out in battle as dodgebitchtruly a fate worse than death
>>574347105giwtwm
>>574347164you get it
>>574346812I've always imagined it as spandex like material like dance tights (for pirouettes), so naturally it would show everything.
>>574347192What the fuck is Firefly doing here>>574347210That's because /v/ is retarded and retards get mocked.
>>574347210/utg/ is OBSESSED
>Open the door>See this
i never collected any eggs
>>574346776I really hope Ch6 goes into detail with what exactly Kris and Ralsei's plan is. I don't believe Toby is gonna make it full-on unlikeable traitor shit, and I'm intrigued about how he's gonna pull it off.
>>574347238what do you mean you don't like Susie? she's the real main character
they should put a worm in chapter 6
>>574345669Nice
>>574347348>those fags at Weenie Hut Jr. are scared of Super Weenie Hut!
>>574346886>Together, we eradicated the enemy and became strong.>HP. ATK. DEF. GOLD. EXP. LV.>Every time a number increases, that feeling...>That's me.Toby's writing is the same as always
>>574345708Vote for what? How is an old man TV ass going to make the world a better place?
>>574347375>>574347348You don't know how much I'd enjoy going there and discussing the game THERE but janny has a personal vendetta against anything Deltarune related so I'm stuck here with you turbofaggots
>>574347510That means Super Weenie Hut mogs you losers
>>574347219its edited from https://files.catbox.moe/dajvpx.pngi made sure the collar flaps have an actual rank and the sigil on kris' arm is historically accurate.
>>574347050mmmm.... casually naked ralsei....
>>574347385blue archive
>>574347421the accursed creature...
>>574347571>You don't know how much I'd enjoy going there and discussing the game THEREWhy do you enjoy going to a place where you can't actually talk about video games (and with a worse community of posters than /vg/ since some people here actually like video games)? Its just baffling.
>>574347571Just go to /vrpg/ or something.
help my tv is molesting my child
>>574347595The non defaced version is great
Why Chapters taking so long to develop?
>>574347570>Ralsei is actually Asriel if he absorbed Kris' soul
>>574347725i did not post that version because i actually feel filthy having it on my hard drive.
>>574347746Making the art, testing all the variables and choices, coding the gimmickshit segments, muh jap translation, and so on.
>>574347686Unlike many, he has at least accepted his suffering.
>>574347570Whatever heinous shit this artist has drawn on his NSFW account, his SFW stuff is ridiculously good
>>574346886You're an idiot and whoever made that image is a retard>wow this schizo sure talks weirdHoly fuck man yeah that must mean Toby has a skill issue you're so right, hey do you mind walking into this lake for me, don't mind this bird holding a knife behind me haha it's nbd
>>574347765Underage
>>574346335>"n-no mom she's actually uhhmmm, it's uhh, a TWENTY YEAR OLD flower that's like, a reflection of the little girl flashback memories of the teenage twink, I mean chad self-insert boy, you play as! She just acts and looks like a little kid!"
all the previous posts of toby inspiration were shit because they didn't have helvetica, cucumber quest and hatoful boyfriend
>>574347746nintendo game, gotta wait the next big direct
Give me a reason to live you faggots
>>574347703They do discuss videogames but the threads aren't as fast, and I only care about the Deltarune threadsThe amount of actual game discussion is the same here, but instead of /pol/ shitposting, it's diceposting and ERP>>574347932They do say this word for word
>>574347534Vote for him to win the title of sexiest man because he rightfully deserves it, he is handsome perfection and your eyes appreciate looking at himIt would make the world a significantly better place if you voted for him because many artists already promised to draw nsfw of him if he wins and some are currently taking requests on how to draw him just to get him more votesImagine all the influx of hot Tenna images on the internet if he won
>>574347983you get to torment and cuck kris harder in ch6.and i get to do what i want when ch7 drops and go back to my different save.
>>574347746Toby fucked around way too much during the development of chapters 2 and 3, it was kinda a silksong problem where nobody told anyone to stop fucking around and focus.Now that they have a producer these chapters should release yearly
>>574347903NTA but you type like a tiktok teen and that invalidates your argument
>>574347983
im a chud but i would genuinely let a trans girl beat me up if it helped soothe her
>>574347210You're blind, /v/ complains about /utg/ in their every waking moment.
>>574347993>thinks sexually about underage charactersYou are the one with the problem here.
>>574347960Helvetica was just inspiration for the name of the skeletons, CQ is the project of one of the collaborators, the similarities are because Gigi and Toby had similar influences.The memory of Rosemaster made me a bit more nervous about Flowery at the start
:)
Haters gonna hate
>>574347960Two of those are webcomics and they asked specifically about games. You're right about Hatoful Boyfriend though, I always forget that one even though Moa literally has art in Deltarune now.
>>574347410same but it seems cool, just a bit too convoluted to get to
>>574348114you're a faggot and i hope a tranny beats you up.
/utg/ is desperate for minto sharto 2.0
>>574348132Is this the artist who drew Ralsei fucking the Mizzles
>>574347809Did you feel filthy having the baby Asriel being sexually assaulted by his mother Toriel on your hard drive, Kraut?
Hey boys!
>>574348114come here :)
>>574348176i'm sure the horned, star-themed black knight guy trapped inside a cylindrical prophecy who toby liked enough to create a fan theme for had no influence on deltarune
>>574348242haha oh wow anything but that>>574348336haha wow my dreams are coming true!
>>574348278I wouldn't know.
>
Aaaaaand he's gone
Do any of you use violence against opponents to tire them out and then pacify them? Feels like this strategy is about to become much more attractive if you choose the Blueshoes (0 TP Pacify)
Kris is really sexy
ralsei flying over the hood of a ford f-150ralsei being sprayed with a power washerralsei being chased by geese ralsei opening an umbrella and being carried off by the wind ralsei being hit in the head by a dodgeballralsei slamming his fingers in the door of his 2010 pt cruiser ralsei sitting in a patch of fire ants ralsei getting audited ralsei waking up with a splitting headache for like no reason at all that doesn't go awayralsei checking his phone all day and not getting any messages
>>574348287>the demon is immaculately, but hear it lose its composure once you call it by its name and show its own face.
Guys I forgot, what was the Sjelter code again?
>>574348464Yes, it's the easiest way to play the game.
What's his endgame?
It just goes to show that the function is there for a reason.
>>574347746The game was in horrible development hell until a few years after chapter 2 because he tried to make a huge RPG with just himself and a few friends working part-time
>>574348518my FUARKING HERO
>>574348470>ralsei getting audited You sick fuck
Starwalker freaks me the fuck out
>>574348346If that was true that'd be a strike against Toby because it's one thing to be inspired by seminal games and another by copying his friend's work that is also derivative of those games.
>>574348408The style's pretty close
>>574348287Where can I see that?
Has anyone given a good counter-argument against this yet?
>>574348176Even if Toby didn't take direct inspiration from CQ, I'd still recommend it as a Tobycore influence if only because it's reminiscent of the cyclical prophecy theory and I want more people to believe in that theory.
>>574348707I'm not reading that. Summarize in 3 words or less
>>574348464I've never done this even in Undertale because I was paranoid that I'd overdo it and kill them on accident
>>574348810THEORIGINALSTARWALKER
>>574348824running this over with my mower
>574348707Holy bait
>>574348673Backread the original quoted posts.Warning for extremely cringe Kraut edgeposting to justify his admission of why he saved it (i-it's jusy shockposting guise!) and of course the actual graphic content.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/379780953/#379786430
Fish I wish
>>574348653yeah toby would never copy his friends unique concept. like a skeleton named after a fonteven if it is scummy, he at least hired her and gave her some work, maybe she and people like karotynes get deltarune royalties, who knows.
>>574348735I hear cucumber quest is unfinished and that kills all my motivation to read it
(reluctantly) noelle's scream sfx kinda gives me a boner
>>574348896The entirety of Ch5 made me wanna hug the fluffy boy more than ever
>>574349029I sit down with ear buds sometimes and just play it on loop for hour on end laying in bed...I might have issues
>>574348896cutie>>574348663freaky>>574348691
>>574347960the dark hatoful boyfriend backstory is going to be kris's reason for being the only human in town btw.
HAHAHAHA
>>574349013Cucumber Quest realistically peaks at the flower world part, after that it loses focus and fizzles out until it ends abruptly before the next arc can even truly commence
>>574348810>>574348904Yeah this game is going to flop hard
>>574348707No. You'll play it once and then move on
>>574349013It's permanently unfinished which is kind of like being finished
>>574349032so cute...
>>574349170
>>574349013she had a tantrum and ended it because her old persona comics were more popular
>>574349198>>574349372hm, shame.I'm still pissed I got tricked into reading "A song of fire and ice" or "hunter x hunter" but then the author decided he hates working and would rather spend years doing nothing
>>574347051I can accept that way easier than the later part.Are Kris and Ralsei actively conspiring against Susie and the player?>>574347420I don't think it could ever be acceptable for Ralsei and Kris to be co-conspirators and then for Toby to demand we forgive them
>>574349529Don't worry bro Gon will get to the dark continent and it will be epic just two more years bro
Post OTP
>>574347494Shitty yet high quality cat
ralsei getting carried off by a really big bird
>>574349445>>574349476
>>574349504Not really, it was just the same creator burnout that happens with almost every long-running webcomic. People like the Gunnerkrigg guy who can keep working on one project for years straight with no outside help are outliers. The same thing would have happened to Toby by now if he didn't have a team.
>>574348735Cucumber quest is good I should do a reread I used to believe in cyclical prophecy "there are new heroes every 10 years or whatever" possibility but I think everything is pointing toward a more straight forward time travel looping cycle like in Undertale. The twist will be that we play as "the Flowey" this time and not the foil to Flowey>>574349013Cucumber Quest is really fun for what it is and the art is phenomenal. Don't be sad it's unfinished, be happy you get to enjoy what did get made y'know?
>>574349541I don't think they are conspiring against Susie. Kris feels bound by duty and feels guilty about it, which of course doesn't excuse them fully. Ralsei most likely just supplanted his belief in the Prophecy with a belief in Kris and will probably turn on them when/if Kris doesn't change their ways.
>>574349697>please pass the egg salad
>>574349764Skill issue, why do successful mangakas work on the same shit their entire life then?
>>574349541Well, I don't think you'll be forced to forgive them, but you'll probably have to let them redeem themselves for a theoretical happy ending. Kinda like Asriel in TP.
>>574349719>
>>574349719This caught me off guard, holy cute
>>574349764webcomic makers burning out made more sense to me when i learned that japanese animu comics have a different guy to do the backgrounds and effects. but webcomics guys just do the whole thing themselves.
>>574349985Because they’re getting a stable income. Webcomics are hobbies first and foremost.
>>574349198>peaks at the flower world part, after that it loses focus and fizzles out until it ends abruptly before the next arc can even truly commence
>>574349985Mangakas have teams of assistants who draw most of the art for them
>ralsei, buddy, pal, luv, remember when I gave you the plush? hugged you? and all the other stuff. please you can't do this to me man, I care about you and shit bro, you can't just stab me in the back!
Kralsei is so fucking cringePeople shit on Suselle but it's the only Kris ship that isn't just violently cringe-inducingKrusie has no romantic chemistry whatsoever and is just a self-insert vehicle for SusiefagsKriselle is literally nothing but oceans of rape and always weird pedophilic fetishization of childlike girls who wear Gir hoodies and play Roblox and FNAF
>>574349013the art is really good so its worth a look for that at least
>>574349719this should have been ralsei going 'okay' like he did to the pipis cupboard
>>574350216You're supposed to make bait a little subtle, anon
>>574349985the mangaka hyper work ethic thing is a psyop to get 20-somethings to cripple their backs/wrists, and develop hypertension from their stimulant habit and lack of sleep
>>574349857I find the time travel possibility significantly less straightforward because it would require the introduction of a new form of time travel for the current heroes and Knight to go back to the time of the original incident, since that happened before any save files existed (and if it didn't, why not just reload to stop the horrible incident from happening?)
Do you think we gonna have Vessel / Player + Kris vs Ultimate Roaring Knight battle?
when (you) inevitably get the vessel back who is Ralsei siding with? Kris or the player? i honestly think it could go either way
>>574350192>"I care about you too... Kris">*muffled sounds of Soul seething*
my butt is so swampy rn
>>574350463so sorry...
Yogurt mushroom = my semen btw
>>574350192He's going to Firegrave you no matter what, sorry
>>574350304You should stop being a racist, doomer. It's not healthy.
>>574350398I don't think we will ever re-fight the roaring knight
>>574350398getting the vessel back and working alongside or against Kris would be kino which is why I'm hoping toby at least gives us that
>>574350463Flowery...
>>574345049Lmao it really looks like that
Gonna get smashed on cider and peach schnapps tonight. The selection of games I'm gonna play is Ender Magnolia, Super Castlevania 4, Replaced, Buckshot Roulette, Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge and Marvel Cosmic Invasion.
>>574350447I can see Ralsei asking (You) to help get Kris to snap to their senses when they're in too deep, but if you get too violent with it, the battle just becomes 3-sided
>ESL pee dee effs are so mad right nowBased doom
>>574350447why is ralsei in love with krisgenuinely why, every scrap of kindness we've given the little fucker has been us
>>574349529
Araki....!
>>574350216What do you think about picrel?
>>574344882Pic makes sense because of every character in the utdt world burgerpants would be the most likely to be a chaser
>>574350704always refreshing when the revolution of colored flags its its own young.
>>574350717Kris not being responsible for all the options makes the story boring.
okay but seriously though Krusie is boring as it gets, Kriselle is all rape and pedophilia, and Kralsei is weird annoying femboy uwu shit that nobody with a sound mind wants to spend any time interacting with.
>>574350390We're gonna dive into The Knights soul and load their save file that they unknowningly made during the incident to prevent the incident from ever happening. the game was a Ghost Trick rip off the whole time
>>574350717from what we know Ralsei is trying to please everybody but by chapter 5's end I'm hoping he'll take flowery's advice and fight for what he really wants. whatever that is
>>574350870i cant think of anyone who actually says they want more romance in games
New fat Tennas dropped
>>574350870You could have at least waited till the next thread to try the bait again
remember when people cared about ramb
>>574350870And suselle?you talk a boatload of hot topics here, but i don't hear that type of hot take with whats in front of us.what gives?
>>574350829Its its?Also they are clearly obsessed with dragging you down to their level, why else would they bring up that stuff you posted that makes them so hot and bothered? Now they seem to think I’m racist, it’s cute.
>>574350991BG3 sold a billion copies because people wanted to fuck the characters.
>>574350390>require the introduction of a new form of time travel for the current heroes and Knight to go back to the time of the original incidentI think kris's powers work exactly as we expect them to work based on Flowey and Frisk in Undertale. The knight is the hitch here but the knight is already weird in general and I don't think it's too outside of the realm of possibility that it has some means of travelling into other timelines or something in the bunker sent them back. If kriselleknight is really the direction the story is going there's also the possibility that having a monster fusion with a DT time manipulator creates a being that could move itself through time-space without reloading the timeline. Kris's sense of guilt and trauma around "the incident" being centered around knowing their own actions created the paradox that made it possible would be an insane twist and fit in with the "thinking you're responsible for your friend's death" thing that people think is the omori connection
>>574351061Suselle is fine. Romance played as straight as possible. It's marginally more interesting than Krusie because it's yuri.
>>574350870Kriselle is cute tho, because both Kris and Noelle are repressed evil schizos
>>574350870Suselle be like "this girl I helped once has a crush on me and I don't really interact with her and I'm kind of in the middle of something important but looking at her closer she's kinda fine so I guess I'm gonna Yoko Ono her into my friend circle"A romance for the ages...
>>574349719Cute transgirl
Guhhh, I finally caught up on threads from yesterday./utg/ has such bizarre swings in quality. To talk about GAME. If Spamton and Jevil re-appeared, what would be a good moment for it?
>>574350693sounds like a nice time
>>574350761Sorry my man but since 2006 you spend most of your time doing nothing at all.A normal person would have been fired a long time ago and it wouldn't have been tolerated.Kris Deltarune is upset his manga was never finished
>>574351209I'm so done with Spamton. Now that Tenna is gone I hope we never hear from him again unironically. He did his job, he was great, he's finished.
>>574350870But Kriselle is kino.
>>574350870
>>574351209Gerbil? For the Seam encounterSpamton? For the bit in the finale where all the Schizobosses team up
>>574347686>eyelashes
>>574351305If only Tori could really join me haha... :(
>>574349541>>574347420Ralsei doesn't know why Kris is doing what they're doing, but is putting faith in them because they are friends (and stuck in the same boat, by virtue of the prophecy) and he wants to trust that Kris would only do something like this if there was a very good reason to do so. Ralsei says all of this during the heart-to-heart hot spring scene if you relax and then talk about the Dark Fountain. Flowery goaded this conversation out of him by pointing out that "Oh, if we're so bad for our Dark Fountain existing, shouldn't the guy opening it be bad too?". Ralsei is not a co-conspirator because he isn't in a position to conspire. He is actively going against what his instincts tell him in order to place trust in his friend, which is a very important thing aspect of close friendship and love and it's almost like Toby is trying to tell us something or impart a lesson about friendship and love in the chapter that is about almost nothing but friendship and loveSusie also puts her faith in Kris too, right after Flowery calls out the Lancer Fan Club for being a hollow relationship built on a foundation of lies, but she hasn't caught on. The !$!$ Squad is a very very fragile relationship, and there are obviously things that will come to a head that will threaten to destroy it from every direction (Susie's very emotional refusal to let go of Castle Town, Kris' extremely conflicted double-crossings, Ralsei's hesitance to admit the truth), but all of them still love and trust each other and can make it through this because of it.
>>574351209>/utg/ has such bizarre swings in quality. Those are called threadshitter waves>If Spamton and Jevil re-appeared, what would be a good moment for it?It would be a major horror moment to have Spamton emerge from your inventory in Ch6 like he did in Ch3, but this time to give you a warning about something following you, only to get picked off by that very thing. Cruel but also a noble way out for him.
>>574351321did he thrown into a fucking bone cruncher and got his entire body crippledwtf is this
>>574351458Pee dee eff!
>>574351321>A normal person would have been fireddo you think he's a salaried worker and that shonen jump can just hire someone else to make HxH chapters for them
>>574350870>Kriselle is all rape and pedophilia
>>574350870I thoroughly enjoy the quiet slowburn adoration that is Kralsei
>>574351604I can see her soles
>>574351645Yep, that’s a pedopooper post alright.
>>574351326Thick CRT fingers tried and failed to type this post before giving up and asking Mike to do it
>>574351646I have no idea what this means.
>>574351549This is a good assessment and I believe it much more than any edgy doomspelling. I wanna see this friendship survive the ultimate test.
>>574351604Built for sex
>>574351436thats an old one right there
Deltarune should've fired Toby after he stopped working because of muh wrist.
>>574351154As i thought: your opinion is garbage.please speak into the acoustic foam so i can't hear you.
I don't know why everyone is convinced that Kris and Noelle will turn into the knight when it's much more likely that if any fusion does happen, they will become the angel instead. Noelle's "tell me to grow wings" line was a pretty massive hint that people are glossing over for some reason.
>>574351859Can you post some of your homoerotic nazi love poetry for us
>>574351087>I think kris's powers work exactly as we expect them to work based on Flowey and Frisk in UndertaleWell that's what I mean though. Frisk can't go back before the start of the gane. Flowey can't go back before he became a flower. It would be a different type of time travel mechanic if they could. Like the moving through any point in the timeline thing you describe is an entirely different form of time travel than what's been established to exist already. It's not that I think it's impossible, but it adds a layer of complexity, is all.
Noelle won't ever make it to Castle Town, she'll be in a Dark World in her house the whole chapter. She'll continue to believe that she's dreaming while she's there. At some point she'll get overwhelmed and, remembering Queen, will open a fountain in the Dark World. Since she doesn't understand that she's not dreaming, she'll think that doing so will either provide an escape, or will only have consequences within her dream.
i would work in the fucking MINES 28 HOURS A DAY to pay for this FUCKING LITTLE SHITS college fund i love him that much
>>574350703i wish i was frisk in this picture and i was friends with asriel and we both explore the underground togeht why why why whwyhwhywhywhw fuck why wasnt i born as frisk why why why why was i born in this shitty world where evertything sucks and the only thing i have in my life is me killing myself a good 10-20 years from now once it gets too unbearable why god
>>574351209>If Spamton and Jevil re-appeared, what would be a good moment for it?I don't think either of them need to reappear prominently. I liked the Spamton moment in chapter 3 and I'm glad we got it but it wasnt wholly necessary. I think people see the Spamton allusions as so obvious and blatant for one because the Addisons and Tenna are clearly associated with him and keep bringing him up but also because Spamton himself represents and mirrors the weird route and its themes and obviously the weird route gets a lot of focus. I think Jevil will also not come back seriously because he's asleep and all but the allusions to him/"the world revolving" will increase and become clearer as we reach the climax and the time loop/saving elements of the plot are laid bare. His associations will that general idea and back to Kris I think are clear enough but we still don't know what the big twist will be y'know?
>>574351954Precious
>>574351948i have a few issues of the S.S. Leitheft, but i don't own anything smelling of homoeroticism.you probably want to ask a pippshit about hetalia or some retarded shit for your fix.
>>574350447100% Kris
>>574352069Based goatchad!
On tuesdayI will cut down the trees
>>574352104Now write that in English
>>574351549>>574351806Am I part of that friendship too or just a thorn on their sides?
>>574351560>but this time to give you a warning about something following you, only to get picked off by that very thing.I'd love if this is how the FRIENDs are introduced
>>574350717>genuinely why, every scrap of kindness we've given the little fucker has been usHow much input do you think the soul actually have? We don't actually get to choose what exactly Kris says. We just get to pick between two options that Kris gives us. The most influence we have over Kris is where they walk.
I don’t want to admit how often I’ve gotten off on imagining Maddie using my throat.
>>574352095
>>574352185specify your issue or read again until comprehension is gained.
>>574352189Depends on (you), little heart-shaped box
>>574352189(You) are the chud who wants to play the game even though the characters are stunning and beautiful and want to make their own choices
My little flower husband...
>>574351036I still care about Ramb
>>574350717i've always thought the options were kris' thoughts, and we can just pick one. also kris is one of two people he actually knows, darkners don't really count as people
>>574351806The reaction Flowery got out of Susie with that "Why don't you close YOUR fountain, and let us keep OURS?" comment, the walk home, the ARG comment about Castle Town, and the face of the Angel being the image of the Castle in the Chapter 4 prophecy panels makes me suspect that there will be a very, very serious confrontation between Susie and the other Fun Gang members about closing Castle Town (probably even a Versus Susie 2). This might even be the tragedy seen in the Prophecy. I dunno if it's entirely congruent with our current reads on the theme of escapism, though, so either our understanding of what Toby wants to say about that is flawed or the Castle Town fountain will not be sealed.>>574352189Pink makes me think that yes, you are! You and Kris just have a very complicated relationship and you need to navigate it carefully and reconcile with each other in order to reach that New Future everyone wants.
>>574352386i want to be naughty with asriel in this sort of way
>>574352104No, no, nothing homoerotic. Only images of baby Asriel being molested for this Aryan supersoldier
>>574352390Then the obvious question is, why does Kris think of any of the proceed shit?
>>574352170it's all projection.pay it no mind.
>>574351209>JevilSex scene with Seam>SpamtonSex scene with Mettatenna (Mettaton and Tenna fused together)
>>574349719FREAKING CUTE
It's been like 3 weeks since the chapter released and 1 week after a bug fixing lore patch. but Jackenstein's still not in Castle town if you killed any satan babies. Soooo is Jackenstein secretly a Satan Baby supporter or something
I'll be honest since I got to know Ralsei I kind of don't give a shit about Asriel. Fuck did he ever do aside from call me an idiot for an entire game
>>574352492NTA, but I think something really terrible happened between Kris and Noelle in the past, probably connected to the Dessappearance. Because of this Noelle became a trigger for Kris' worst impulses, either because she did something or because Kris just associates her with trauma.
>>574352492It's probably call of the void type thinking. You know, fucked up thoughts you might have in your brain but would never act on. But because we're in the driver seat, we can just force Kris to drive into oncoming traffic.
>>574352667Jackenstein is pro life
>>574351993>Frisk can't go back before the start of the gane. Flowey can't go back before he became a flowerExactly, we know clearly when those two gained their powers and can turn time back to. I think our, the player's, furthest possible reset being the same as frisk's obfuscates certain possibilities. Sure in Deltarune we can only go back so far into the week before the festival but we don't actually know how long Kris has had these powers, what they did before we got involved, or if something if keeping them from going further back then they possibly could before. However, if Kris has or had a wider range of timeline access than we did I imagine it doesn't stretch further back than as long as Asriel has been at college>Like the moving through any point in the timeline thing you describe is an entirely different form of time travel than what's been established to exist alreadyAnd that's what I'm saying, I suspect the knight has some kind of exception to the normal rules that have been established or can otherwise defy them. Reminding us that the knight should only have appeared alongside the heroes at the same time it's revealed they're likely the cause of "the incident" is pretty on the nose. >It's not that I think it's impossible, but it adds a layer of complexity, is allYeah and sequels tend to do that. Add new information and possibilities that then sometimes reframe what you know about the rules from the prequel
>>574352667Toby is pro-life.
Did Ralsei anon become a janitor? His haters live a dangerous life
wtf pedophiles likes fuzzy critters rpg 2? it can't be
Weird thread.
>Noel gets to comes home to this after work every day
That hellspawn had a wife and kids chud.
>>574352716That's my read too. Considering that weird comment Noelle makes in that one ferris wheel dialogue about how she (or someone else) made kris do things I'm scared to find out exactly what happened
>>574351549> because they are friends60 hp
>>574352927Noelle made Kris X-Slash DessorKris made Noelle Snowgrave Dess
>>574351674i agree but i don't mind rapier/so fluffy it's degenerate takes either >>574352492impulsive thoughts and/or him having a grudge against noelle for some reason. i think he enjoyed snowgrave up until we killed berdley
>>574352998Cute transgirl princess
>>574352189Your role is to make sure those three retards can be happy together and then fuck off and die
>>574352927Ch5 WR made me think that perhaps that wasn't the first time Kris and Noelle tried to break the world. They may have done that as kids by accident and perhaps caused Dess to disappear in the process.
>>574352703you're compromised.
this game is for everyone not chud nor woke but clopen...
>>574353017Asriel being such a bitch about Chara has soured my opinion of him in the long term. Anyone else had this experience? He makes a promise with his best friend and partner, breaks it, and gets both of them killed. What about this is supposed to be sympathetic? I hope bad things happen to him in Deltarune.
>>574352927Nta but my read on the "making you do things" quote is that Noelle just has low self esteem and thinks that because Kris isn't as close to her anymore that they were only ever spending time with her because she "forced" them to because their families were so close in reality Kris knows that involving Noelle in the prophecy will hurt her and doesn't want to lose her like they did Dess all those years ago and fears finding other "weird routes" with her. I imagine getting her to stand up to queen and getting more involved with Susie will help close those possibilities off somehow
>>574352998
>>574352994Jumps up to 100HP if you select "It's okay not to smile" in Chapter 4
>>574352667Disbelief Jackenstein is the final boss of the abortion route
>>574353265
>>574351674I think it's a little too quiet and slow burning. So far it doesn't look like Kris feels anything special about Ralsei compared to Susie or Noelle
>>574353293> JACKENSTEIN NO LONGR BELEEVS IN U> :(
>>574352703>Fuck did he ever do aside from call me an idiot for an entire gameMake me sexually aroused by calling me an idiot for an entire game
The azzylistedpedophilespam is getting a little obnoxious today. Wonder what set them off so hard and ass blasted them today?
I know we've had this debate since chapter 5 launch and will keep having it. But here's my reason why I DON'T believe trans Ralsei. And it's coming from someone who'd be fully ok with it if it did happen to be true.>Ralsei is comfortable with his bodyIt's that simple. While Ralsei has identity issues. His identity issues have nothing to do with his body. He seems to really like his body actually. He proudly proclaims he's cute. He doesn't like wearing the hat because it hides his body. He likes putting on different outfits.Ralsei also likes both the masculine butler outfit and the girly princess outfit.So that's it. That's my two cents. It's really as simple as that. Ralsei isn't trans cuz he's happy with his body. He might lack self worth, but the one thing he's openly proud off all the way throughout the whole game is his body.
when chapter 6?
>>574353484They're the lesser evil come to purify the /pol/spam. MVPs of the thread.
>>574353269>If you do something they can become mutually friendly.This requires that you understand they weren't before that point.
>>574353547>lips so big they break the rotoscopingthat's a black man, isn't it?
>>574353359
Sex with blue people (not berdly)
>>574353574I'll take the other guys back they didn't suck nearly as hard as these creeps do.
>>574352667There's gotta be something special about Jackenstein's DARK ZONE's connection to the horrible darkness/the darkness that forms Titans. He's already got those plot-relevant boards in his fight. I wonder how the big guy'll shake out, or how a closet in the Church connects to the dark. Or do you think it's because Jackenstein is something that's supposed to be scary, and the Titans are primordial fear?
>>574353506I'm trans myself and I don't really believe the trans Ralsei theory either. I think his main identity issues that Flowery is trying to help him solve are just over whether or not Ralsei believes himself to be a person with agency instead of an object who doesn't deserve anything.I think it works really well as a trans allegory, but I really don't think that Ralsei himself is trans.
>>574353254Chara lied about why they wanted to merge souls and go up to the surfaceAsriel's "betrayal" of their promise was literally a christ-like sacrifice
did you guys already see the image where Pink with a penis fucks Orange?
>>574353435I prefer to think Kris' dialog options are their own, and those imply some affection at least, that and the fact the bad options just vanish by Ch5. But yeah, this dynamic is still developing. Now that Toby is probably about to disclose some secrets, he's probably gonna show more Kris/Ralsei interactions, since the two interacting would be major spoliers before. When it comes to Krusie, I actually like it too, but I have half a mind to say they're just really close firends that are possessive of each other. Then again, i'm a bit biased, so time will tell.
>>574353626Yes, it's almost like friendships develop over time, or that Kris' relationship with others can be different from their perspective than it is from other peoples' perspective
>>574352487Kris would tell him he'll be like this forever, and to get a knife.
toby will not ruin billions on dess knight fan art, will he?
>>574353141id sooner burn the world down than let the video game characters use me like a tool and throw my soul away
>>574353506I agree but let's not bring up this topic again
>>574353396
>>574353917the knight is rudy thoeverit
>>5743539083 sounds pretty reasonable, hell even 2 is a vast improvement over 1. I'd take a dozen krauts for every azzyspammer we have.
>>574353269Now that I think about it, why does THAT of all choices affect Kris on a psychological level when anything else we make Kris do is filtered through their actual wishes?
>>574353254you're talking about tiny children who make irrational decisions with no real foresight as to how they might play out his entire fatalistic attitude as Flowey was formed entirely by how that plan played out and how he's been tormented with the regret he has from going through with that plani dont know how you could feel that way
>>574353917He is never going to reveal who it isDeltarune is going to have a big make up whatever you want to believe ending like Mother 3
Kris has a crush on Susie and is possessive of Noelle in a non-romantic waySusie has a crush on Noelle and is possessive of Kris in a non-romantic wayNoelle is scary I don't know
i love my bf
Any theoretical Kralsei development has to happen off screen since both of them are aware of your presence and it would kill any romantic atmosphere if you were watching
>>574353908/utg/ fuck marry mill dropped>PedoKill>BpdemonFuck>homosuck anonMarry
am i a good poster?
>>574345387cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute
>>574354118I'm very happy for you, fren!
>>574354093as a former krusietard, i can't even say anything against that without sounding mad.
>>574354046It's been a while since I've played the end of Chapter 4, but is Ralsei's talk about "I have to believe we can change fate!" after that dialogue option, or before?
I want to hold Kris gently and cuddle with them
>>574353918You should probably quit the game now because both the normal and weird routes are heading in exactly that direction
>>574354093krusieisn'tcanon
You guys just missed the /v/ thread, it was pretty fun.>>>/v/743489292
>>574354229It's right after because I remember that to get the ominous WR variant you gotta choose it's ok not to smile
>>574354164>lowercase doepost I'm going to go with "probably not"
>>574354275Learn how to read
>>574353902>dude u r so fucking fucked dude ur life is over when mom finds out your done im so sorry man ill save up for the casket man
>>574353908we need to talk about homestuck more here
>>574354138>>homosuck anon>Marry<3>>574354164depends on if you believe that friendship can blossom on the internet>>574354218thanka yu fren :D <3
>>574354046Because if you pick that option then Ralsei compliments Kris's piano playing indicating that he cares about them separately from the player
>>574354131Surely they wouldn't mind me watching from my fujo throne, right?
>>574354131>Kris has to suddenly stop groping Ralsei's balls under his robes before the player returns and they both look suspiciously blushy and out of breath pretending nothing happened
>>574354331Would This Be More To Your Liking?
This ThanksgivingSeth GreenIs"FLOWERY"
>>574353813All the Flowery stuff is probably my main problem with the trans theory, since it makes it seem like he tries to bully Ralsei into identifying as a girl based on the color of a drink, which is pretty dumb and makes Flowery look much worse than what he actually is. Ironically, the fact Toby decided to make it ambiguous is what made it really uncomfortable too.
>>574354468Oh god, no.Anything but that.
>>574354131my player soul has a cushioned stool in the corner of their bedroom thoughever
>>574354164dependshow well can you stick to the wall?
Queen of Love and Hatred Don Pinkqote
>>574353874Sure, but Kris' options being their own also applies to every other relationship Kris has, and those have had so far more independant signs showing Kris' feelings than with Ralsei, imo
>>574354414No we fucking don't
>>574354224something about Kris having Charlie Brown eyes is cute
post>fave homestuck>fave deltarune
>>574354468queen itt irl fr fr
>>574354512All Flowery is doing is trying to help Ralsei be comfortable with choosing things for himself. He's not bullying him or grooming him or anything, he's doing the opposite of that.Well, at least past a certain point. Flowery obviously begins the chapter by bullying Ralsei by forcing the hat and him and sticking him in the closet. I think the reason he began by doing that is to show Ralsei how much it sucks when people choose things you don't like for you without you asking. It was all a setup for the "choose your own destiny" talking he gave to Ralsei later on.
>kris HATES ralsei and susieAre we really cycling back to this discussion so soonI thought tea theory was dead and buried
>>574354697>i didnt read it>susie gaster
>>574354468what happened to that guy anyways
>>574354548Too Late. My Neurochemistry Got Permanently Altered By Your Complaint.
>>574354779Turned into favela meat and sold as cartel tacos.
Ralsei doesn't necessarily not want to be a prince he just wants to choice to be a princess if he wants to without worrying about any of that prophecy crap or Kris's feelingsIt's just one part of the many reasons he wants the blue and pink Kris colors because he sees Kris as someone with Player 1 Agency and he wants to have that agency for himself
>>574354662
>>574353359Is this what they call 'safe horny'?
>>574354697John and Rose are the only likable homestuckseveryone else is a weird pretentious retard
>>574354087>toby releases content>theorists whip insane predictions and theories based on surface level observations, misconceptions and hallucinations within days>theories become entirely self-sustained core concepts to believes despite overall lack of knowledge about the game >toby releases new content which cuts off many theories and possibilities naturally as the story develops>theorists mald and screech about Toby being a hack because the actual content of the game doesn't conform to what they convinced themselves it would beBehold, the theoryschizo cycle
>>574354898l-lewd
>>574354415
>>574354638Not denying that. But Kralsei is also different in that it slowly goes from indifference to warm feelings, while the other two start off with some positivity almost instantly. At the end of the day it's all taste, I guess, I just like gradual development and all that.
>>574354512Kris' colors are blue and pink and they are literally standing right there immediately after the scene and Ralsei addresses it's about Kris. I rather have this than admit you can never use blue and pink for anything again without a double meaning
post examples of him being a cunt
>>574354918Safe to say that guy has been put on a list of people to be monitored by agents.
>>574354697JadeRalsei
>>574354414People will still deny the homestuck connections despite toby adding a literal green sun to the game
>>574355101>It's nice that Susie's finally found a place where she belongs...>...And she's getting along with Lancer, too!
>>574354512Or, hear me out, deciding that the blue and pink coupon is a trans metaphor is very fucking stupid. And I say that as a troon myself.
this thread has a big lack of deltarune boobs
>>574354926>toby releases new content which cuts off many theories and possibilities naturally as the story developsExcept that has never happenedThe story has yet to develop and theories remain unchanged since chapter 5 added nothing new. All we got was vague nothing about ROOTS and FRIEND
>>574355047when all you have is a hammer
>>574354728I fully agree. Makes it all the more jarring to see people celebrating Flowery "cracking Ralsei's egg". I only go to Tumblr for the art, but it sure became harder to browse with all that.
>>574354141Susie my beloved
>>574354414To this day I don't know what Vriska's whole deal is.
>>574355327>fucks your childhood friend and throws you out of your own castletown
>>574353965
>>574355101It's good that he's like this
>>574355342https://youtu.be/coT0wdwkgs4?si=vV2SjK0DrR5JVn3t
>>574355192My point exactly. It kind of kills any possibility of taking that scene seriously in that specific context.
>>574355327this ship was promised to us 3000 years ago, Toby
>>574354818not really Kris
>>574355342She's an annoying writer's pet (waifu) that takes over the story and trashes the whole thing
>>574354994
>>574355163im not denying it. im saying homestuck sucks and you should fuck off
>>574355207>malding theoryschizo The story did develop you're just too busy looking for your biases to be confirmed to notice
>>574355478Deepest lore???
>>574354697>Terezi>Eram/The Knight
>>574355327If Susie was that big then Toriel must be an absolute unit...I could be her human teddy bear haha
Krusie shippers deserve to suffer for wanting Susie to be with such a shithead and likely also being self inserters
>>574355192Do trans pride colors even exist in their world? I find it weird to use that if it was the intention because it's like a pride movement exists in their world so it also means prejudice exists in their world. It'd be using an extradiegetic symbol for a game that has been very diegetic so far
>>574355378
>>574355523
>>574355538Yeah uh let's see...>suselle happened>ending was an exact repeat of chapter 3 but with asgore>nothing from chapter 4 was addressed or built on
>>574355212To be fair I'd like to clarify that I do think Ralsei's character arc works well as a trans metaphor, just not as a literal trans character. Ralsei's feeling like everything in life is already decided for him by a prophecy is very similar to how many trans people feel, where life was decided for them as soon as they were born and they have no will to choose for themselves what they really want, and only once they accept that part of themselves that is different from their birth sex do they truly feel like they're finally a person instead of a spectator in someone elses body. For that, I love Ralsei's character arc. But I don't think it makes a lot of sense to make him trans specifically because he's a darkner who wants to be more like a lightner, so making him trans on top of that is just making the more subtle and well written metaphor way too hamfisted.
>>574354697>ralsei>john
>>574355478
>>574355721
Why does Suselle dialogue sound like this
>>574355739fuck you this made me laugh
>>574355781>picBased yume
>>574355713gross tail
>>574355704Prejudice does exist in their world. People sometimes say weird anti-human stuff to Kris. Toby just typically likes to keep prejudicial stuff as more fantastical rather than address it as a direct parallel to what we see in real life.
>>574355704>Do trans pride colors even exist in their world?Oh yeah, that's also a good point. That suddenly being a thing would be like if Susie started talking about a real-life band or something.
goes hard
>>574355741
>>574355876scut tails are superior for sure
>>574355914
>>574355704I don't doubt they could exist if shit like wavedashing does but it's very desperate to read that scene like that. Blue and pink aren't even the colors of the flag, it's cyan pink and white.
i left for ten minutes and you guys start with your trans ralseis
>>574355781>Susie:...then I want to make it as much like this as I can...>Noelle: awwwaaaaaaAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-
Are you ready for all the vessel/kris art to become outdated once it's revealed that they're the same person
>>574355781i'd talk like this to ralsei, but without making an actual map
>>574355781https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zBTF4INW5g
>>574355949Peeeee Deeeee Fffffff
>>574355374Deltarune is Kris's tragedy anon.If Kris really wanted to they could stop it. But they won't. Because there is something more important to them that they need to do, and letting Noelle and Susie get together is possibly a part of that. Even if it hurts.Also everyone already got over it a week ago anon. The real chads are already polycule coping.
>>574355964
>>574355991It's the /v/ special that we are being forced to endure
>>574355991why can't we just discuss stuff like that maturely as adults without people getting all bent out of shape?
Ralsei's penis.Ralsei's penis.You want to get rid of-Ralsei's penis!?
>>574355704monsters come in abstract shapes and colors, no one needs to go trans because gender is so irrelevant in this setting
>>574355991i don't know what you mean but this is why you hide posts
>>574356093
>>574350859>>574352252>>574352390if i think something kind but don't say it out loud or let it spur me to action, am i still kind?
Ralsei anon, don't look
>>574356117Take your ugly groomer ass back to your discord
>>574356003Kressel is retarded and pointless
>>574355730>feel like they're finally a person instead of a spectator in someone elses bodyThat part is especially important, since the trans reading of Ch5 seems to barely give Ralsei any agency, which is probably my main issue with it. He basically goes from being told who he is by the Prophecy to being told by Flowery, plus there's also the dress scene where he feels fine either way. The ambiguity really works against it.
how young do you have to be to not be immune to cheesy romance dialogue yetwatch one animeplay one visual novelread one fanfiction
kris's enby thussy
>>574356182yes unless you are a christian
>>574356160
>>574356093LIAR!
>>574356218
>>574356187>cut to Ralsei gnawing at Catti's bones>"Mmm, Light World food..."
>>574356372
>>574356117it's retarded, retard
>>574356403
*Snicker* H-hey *Holding back laughter* H-heh, /utg/? *snicker some more* Did you all know... That LOVE too is an acronym? *WHEEEEEEZE*Toby is a *pffft* g-genius writer btw..
step the fuck aside asriel
>>574356262And that's why I don't really like the trans Ralsei theory, because what I want for him more than anything is for him to have agency for himself.
How come Disco Elysium got a bunch of basically competent knock-offs but all Undertale has gotten so far is Everhood despite being a far simpler concept to work with
>>574356384why are the glasses black?
>>574356301Past a certain age, cheesy becomes charming again
>>574356403>>574356494Can you two go to prison already?
>>574353484>>574353692Clearly they got bored of projectile shitting on drawfags and contentfags including MUH PIPPINS and MUH SPAMTENNA, so they switched posting styles. Notice how the #usualsuspects weren't posting at the same time as the raids yesterday.
>>574356117
>>574355478damn
>>574356541but Omori exists...
>>574356415
>>574356541Because Undertale has gameplay and DE doesn't. I do not mean that as a slight against DE, but visual novels are just easier to develop.
>>574356586I think we're at an internet daycare for retarded hateful adults, but is it really that bad to wish for something better?
>>574356649
>>574356606Omori is OFF + Yume Nikki I don't think it really has Undertale DNA
>>574356570>smooches you upon thine brownot now sweetie daddy is trying to have a 4chan post
>>574355478Napstablook is the key to all of this
>>574356541Anyone can write a book with painfully realistic and human characters, very few people can create beloved quirkcore furry characters and bullet hells with banger soundtracks.
ralsei being hit with false accusations that everyone believes even though he's completely 100% innocent
>>574356695No, I'm not bothered by any of that stuff, it's just that you should know how this place is at this stage.
>>574356695trans ralsei is a really boring headcanon whose supporters insist is an actual theory. nobody has to coddle you about it, if you need that, fuck off somewhere else
>>574356709
I watched no country for old men and this is clearly a story about how anton chigurh is trans
>>574356541in what concept specificly?https://store.steampowered.com/app/1783360/Megs_Monster/you might like this or I could recommend you other games if I know what you are looking for
>>574356732Well that's the thing, DE is relatively original while Undertale exists in a tradition of Earthbound-likes.
>>574356825>The Ralstein Effect
>>574356825False accusations of what?
>>574356849
>>574356541Because if you've ever played any of the disco elysium knock offs, you'd realize that they're all missing something important. A sort of je ne sais quois that the original has but none of the knockoffs do. It had a soul, and they do not.Undertale is not copied because it's a low budget "ugly" game that is carried by its story and gameplay, and you can't make a good story without soul.
>>574354697NepetaCatti
>>574356850The lady telling him that the coin doesn't choose is an inspiration to stop accepting the fate of staying his assigned gender at birth, empowering...
>>574356927
>>574356580Yeah they never were good at hiding their seethe towards the chapter 3+4 crowd in particular now that you mention it.
>>574356986I'm sorry to hear that
>>574356850
>>574356843>theoryI think that's the biggest issue with it, trans Ralsei works far better as a character study (eg, thematic analysis that makes sense) vs a theory (I think this will literally happen) which is a far heavier statement.Jax is the cause of this debate having become so widespread. I cannot express enough how much I hate the clown show.
>>574356850i thought it was woke how they did that remake with monster actors, but i guess mettaton was a pretty good choice
>>574357037
I was going to ask "how does fave bring themself to get out of bed" but then I saw the OP and realized I should probably just stay in bed for the rest of the day and kill myself
>>574357130
the world should just legalise hard drugs so i can just top myself already
>>574356541
>>574357119yeah. another issue is that they can't stay in their lane, it is really exhausting to check the comments of a random ralsei fanart and see people calling him a tranny tadc is a classic modern case of something that is fun for children+stunted adults to think about the details of but has no genuine depth whatsoever, i hate it too. i could barely get through the first episode
>>574357182the /v/ tourists will leave after the weekend is over... you just have to believe me...
>>574357239
>>574357119>spoilerSaw the whole thing with some friends just recently, it's amazing how the last episode makes it go from alright with hints of great to actual fucking dumpster fire. At least it was good for a laugh.
>>574357286
>>574356541disco elyisum is shit
The troon saw 1 post shitting on trannies and lost his mind lmfao
>>574357351
>>574357182Newbuddies reposting the same unfunny memes daily in an embarrassing attempt to fit in will continue till morale improves.
Green is never referred to as "they/them". During the gender dialogue in Seth's hangout, part of the joke has Yellow say "and Green is a CHEF". But that's it. I looked through the text dump for any time mentioning Green and places where you might expect a pronoun to be used, they use "Green" instead. For self healing, it says Green used green egg heal on "self". Early in chapter 5 Yellow talks about Orange making juice and refers to her as "she". Ralsei replies "oh, you mean the chef?" who Ralsei can visibly see. And Yellow explains he's talking about Orange.Because nobody has EVER incorrectly assumed a character's pronouns in Deltarune before, it's reasonable to conclude Green is a woman.One other thing, Green doesn't appear to have a disability. Green's Check description just says "Seemingly no interest in speaking."
>>574357465
We all want to be groped by smelly trans women here.
>>574354697john/vriskakris/susie
>>574356182Yes, everyone has uncomfortable or scary thoughts sometimes. Having the power and clarity of mind to not act on them is what decides who we are >>574356337This is only true if youre in some cucked fundamentalist shit >>574356003I think what's most likely that Kris believes they are the vessel for one reason or another but actually isn't. Alternatively, Kris was always the vessel from the start but doesn't matter that they are because the only "Kris" that ever was was the vessel so by being Kris they define what a "Kris" is
>>574357286Ralsei and young Asriel in the same room is a recipe for diabetes
>>574357408That's a very Disco thing to say.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DeLfY1foYY
>>574357057It's ok, I love my autistic cat girls even if their creators don't.
>>574357505They're not even trying to fit in, that's the thing
>>574357460this is how it always goes here. one post and they melt down
>>574357390If this is the height of Deltarune discourse then it would be imperative that Toby immediately ceased all productions of Deltarune and then scrubbed everything UTDR related including delisting the games from digital storefronts.
>>574357182I told you Chapter 5 would bring even worse posters to this general and you didn't believe me!>"Can't be worse than doomer and kraut!"You all said, well I warned you.
>>574357549
>>574357505its pretty funny
>>574357674
>>574357390the truly troubling thing is that this person is probably 12
its HOT
>>574357390Why are you German
>>574357673Now they are the pillars of the community. Our last hope against bad posts.
>>574357390It does make sense thoughbeit, the bat thing can't be for shits and giggles. Let's put aside the theoryfaggotry and think for a second, what makes more sense, that the weeb karen or sickly guy can become a shapeshifting darkness knight with mechanics that haven't been introduced to the story yet, or that the character who parallels both Asriel and Claus, who uses the same type of weapon and has disappeared god knows where in a dark world related accident might be it?
>>574357836You can't just ask someone why they're German!
>>574357836Ich mag freudenbrot
>>574357749
>>574357390she's right btw
Why is burgerpants based but pizzapants is not?
"repping transfem Ralsei" specifically doesn't make sense because Ralsei isn't repressing gender expression, Ralsei dresses as a woman frequently and in ch5 outright states the only difference between a prince and princess is how you present yourself. Ralsei is presenting as a princess in that scene which means from Ralsei's POV, whether he is being a prince or princess doesn't actually have bearing on the plot or prophecy.There's no other reasons for Ralsei to repress besides the prophecy, since DR world is extremely accepting and he's a Darkner. So "repping transfem Ralsei" is just not very coherent at all to me."Ralsei's true nature is genderfluid/agender etc" is much more coherent and squares easily with the rest of the game.
>>574357931faster you dirty green bitch
>>574353908>say namefag has bpd>instantly becomes sexyIts that easy
>>574357887you are thinking like a basic bitch, not like toby fox
>>574357119Jax is not the cause of this. Bridget is.
>>574357941
>>574357959burgerpants is the gigachad alt right ubermenschpizzapants is the virgin pathetic socialist leftpol chud
>>574357959Bpants was out of fucks to give, Ppants gives too many fucks.
>>574357959Burgerpants has been hardened by having MTT as a boss whom he's tsundere for, while the pezza place is just poison for him
just saw art of the soul with a dick fucking fat friend
>>574358004aua
>>574358051>both bp and asgore lose their aura in deltaruneToby HATES men
>>574357959This line is here peak fiction, like not even unironically one of the best lines that stuck with me even above many books i like Pizzapants cant compete
>>574358094>PpantsWith a name like that the game was rigged against him from the start
>>574358049Goatta go. Bye for now, fren! :)
disco elyisum is shit deltarune is shitundertale is shit video games are shitmovies are shiteverything is shit lets all die
>>574357506Green is not a woman. Green is not nobinary. Green is a chef.
>>574357049They also had conflicting points, like the ch3+4 crowd either all being secondary newfags or being existing posters who "dropped" their previous faves (as if Spamton stopped being relevant after Chapter 2, like they desperately wanted him to be). The new cope is that Spamtenna was just yaoi bait and the Mikes were just MOCKING theoryschizos as if they're both not heavily tied to the story.>>574357673To be fair, I'm pretty sure at least a few of the "new" shitters here have been those two posting under different masks. Remember Fobby, and not the Mother series fan website URL?There's also been some activity from the kingfag orbiter, berdfag orbiter, and minto orbiter (may all be samefag or not). It didn't go unnoticed, since the last guy seems to have an obsession with claiming he never existed. Bro ain't Gaster.
>>574357959pizzapants needs to be ground under the iron heel of a sexy robot
>>574357390>kris is decomposingThe alternative is that they're gonering out which has just as much evidence as them decomposing. It's explicitly stated in game that the SOUL contains your life force, decomposing without your SOUL is a logical conjecture from that.
>>574358169"I'm only 19 and I've already wasted my entire life" goes insanely hard for a funny pixel indie game character that you barely interact with.
>>574358000Genuinely agree, genderless goat is much more believable
>>574358250sensible reasonable post
>>574358236thank you for posting with me fren :D
>>574357959Burgerpants gets to rape Mettaton
>>574358324It's maybe the most relatable line in both games.
>>574358250Finally, /utg/ writes some grunge
>>574358324It's a good line too, but i read something along that in a lot of fiction.For me that was way better
>>574358342Ralsei should look like this and so this
>>574358000everyone actually paying attention knows ralsei is a genderless horror masquerading as a fluffy prince to placate god, but good luck convincing anyone to give a shit about him at all
Fujo I love you. Fujo let's get married.
>>574358000Also Ralsei's true nature is literal fluid and he'll turn into a puddle before the end of the game
>>574358258Berdfag historically had beef with both kingfag and especially mint so it's not surprising that a berdfag orbiter is also showing up at the same time. It's a small connected group.
>>574357959Everyone from UT got hit with aura loss by default. Bpants was already a wagie even in the fantasy world so in the boring normie world his aura goes into the negatives.The ONE exception to this rule? YUP, it's HER.
I'm so so so so so sad that the flowers wont join us in castletown
>>574358250everything is shit and im a dung beetle baby
>>574358609yeah, her introduction cutscene is so cool
>>574358609Flowery has way more aura than the spookypasta shit he was in UT imo
>>574358169>still dies to chara KWAB
i love buckethead <3
>>574358317How do they undecompose when they get the soul back? The soul contains healing magic that reverses the damage?
>>574358718Omega Flowey has aura, regular Flowy just does not.
>>574358572It's all so grim. At least I can take apart their petty threadshitting and trap their soul fragments in background NPC dialogue.
>>574358725i love my boyfriend <3
Will we get the bath house from the flower castle to Castle Town? I want to see Tenna's bath scene.
>>574358609If you consider Frisk as a parallel/counterpart to Kris, Kris mogs>>574358718Also this
>>574358718They're not even remotely the same character and even if they were Flowey would be better
>>574358845This will be the tenna suicide scene
>>574358852Kris is just Frisk and Chara combined into one character.
>>574358917>They're not even remotely the same character So is not asgore and people comparing them all the timeAlso>and even if they were Flowey would be betterlol
>>574358931>Tenna jumps into the spring and electrocutes himself with his own TV headFucking kek
>>574357390Locking in Dessknight still after chapter 5 is bold
>>574358819They go from 0/20 HP to 20/20 HP
>>574359019>>574358931It's okay to use water on CRTs they're not weak like these modern ass TVs and I wash mine regularly
>>574358609id disagree on the basis that she seems a lot happier in ut(xbox) and more mentally stable than she is in dt
>>574359048Thats right brother
my duplicitous wife...
>midwest emo playing softly in the background
>>574359101I use 90%+ rubbing alcohol and microfiber cloth on electronics.
>>574358917>and even if they were Flowey would be betterNostalgia is the enemy of reasonable thought.
>>574358820Maybe if you were 12 years old when UT came out (majority of the fans)
>>574359142She's happier in UT because magic lets her actually be whatever body she wants, but I dunno I never liked her there, she's the same Dio Brando joke as Mad Dummy but with a "haha kawaii anime" layer.
>>574359187hetero in denial
I've already debunked DessKnight like 5 times try to pay attention it's a dead "theory"
Ralsei is trans because she moaned crying out of happiness she's a failed prince and it feels so much better to be my princess
>>574359048I locked in Dess Knight in chapter 2
>>574359192Cute transgirl
>>574359287>she's the same Dio Brando joke as Mad Dummy but with a "haha kawaii anime" layer.and shes the same in deltarune exactly
>>574359287creaming herself each time she gets stabbed is character in my eyes
>>574359286>Ralsei flavor
>>574359323Look out guys, the deboonker is here to deboonk our theories. Myth? Busted.
>>574358609i want to get her pregnant
oppa gangam style
>>574359323I dont like DeerKnight but no knight theory is debunked unless they are in the same roomHell, now with people saying time travel will happen/is happening not even that can clear debunk anything
>>574359334Putting make-up on Ralsei isn't force-feminization because he already wears make-up.
>>574358809>>574358809>>574358809move along
>>574359192i have this image saved too
>>574358852>>574359000Both Frisk and Chara mog Kris.
>>574359334Cute....
make a new thread, we are not using that one
>>574359252Without love it cannot be seen
>>574359375lol no, she gets to be a serious character in DR. She also gets good spritework instead of Toby's scribbles.
>>574359323Dess is the knight because if look closely, Kris has a raging hard penis during the entire fight. This only makes sense if the knight is a pretty girl because Kris only likes girls
>>574359526On it
>>574359526yeah i also want a new thread
>>574359526>>574359656>>574359689you had your transphobic thread, no fuck off and post in the new thread
>>574344882The ghost was clearly female and so it's fine for Pink to use the women's side. Tranny's are so obsessed with making the Catgirl trans when they already have the cool Mettaton
>>574359526KEEEEEEEEK CRY ME A RIVER
>>574359526>>574359656>>574359689>ooc transphobic op good>canon op badyou are not the target audience for deltarune go back to your /v/ shithole
>>574359985>>574359985>>574359985Hop on
>>574358250true, we should all die
>chuddies will now get the general banned because they can't take what they dish outGentlemen, I rest my case.
>>574360247just report their melty thread as spam which it is, they need to realize this place is not /v/
>>574357883Cute AF
>>574359929transphobia is always based and correct and the game itself is transphobic as it doesnt have any trannies in it and it constantly stresses things like "gender is bullshit and does not matter". toby will always want to appeal to people like me over people like you, which is why in ten goddam years he has ruthlessly avoided queer/trans shit. lesbians are normal and not queer. get fucked you disgusting parasite, nobody likes you
>>574345175In truth it's the reverse
>>574372778>>>/v/you don't belong here