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>News
MGQP part III has finally been released. Further information here https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ01114724.html

READ THE LINKS CAREFULLY
https://pixeldraincom/u/4ek8KWa6 (3.01 Raw)
https://pixeldraincom/u/4CdBetZr (3.04 Raw)
https://pixeldraincom/u/f2mDYcL6 (3.05 Raw)
https://pixeldraincom/u/pePcyBvE (3.06 Raw)
https://files.catbox.moe/s749a9.zip (3.04 BobMTLV 2.1.3) (You can use this patch any version of 3.04)
https://pastebin.com/3CiEGJRY (3.04 Prepatched Manuel Edition 2.13 + QoL, read the EMME readme)

Innocent Rules has been fully translated
NEW Youmaen has finally been fully translated : https://mega.nz/file/5Z1QnDZQ#4fFLCwIIP5xWrs0e8xVptgGHnmYOx8qNY37-PiWtHmc
SHRIFT II 2.56 has been mostly translated https://mega.nz/file/KIEAnAAR#gZSP8wYdutRThD3wJkcd1L2mPTgpzUdPyKzdVG4BOKw
New MGQ Wiki: https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/MonsterGirlQuest_Wiki
New MGD Wiki: https://monstergirldreams.miraheze.org/wiki/Monster_Girl_Dreams_Wiki
Japanese MGQ Wikis: https://seesaawiki.jp/mqp/
Three Charms Lonesome Spirit collab translation has been updated; Link: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/435693950/#q435711784

Game guides and resources: https://pastebin.com/D8Bn18pQ

You can get the latest translation of the Paradox Part 3 Demo translation files from ArzorX's Bitbucket:
https://bitbucket.org/ArzorX/monster-girl-quest-paradox-translation-part-3/downloads/

You can get the Part 3 Demo files directly from Fanza here:
https://sample9.dmm.co.jp/digital/cg_game/d_310859/d_310859t.zip

You can read a guide on how to apply the patch at ArzorX's Blog here:
https://arzorx.wordpress.com/2019/08/11/how-to-manual-patch-the-game-with-the-recent-translations/

Get the /mggg/ canon as well as apocryphal savefile for Paradox here (Part 3 ready):
https://catbox.moe/c/wa18jy

Tiny Improvements + BobMtl for 3.06/3.05/3.04,Ultimate Magical Girl Bug Fix.
https://pastebin.com/w87i82zP

ToroToro Resistance's blog:
https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/4710
Previous Thread: >>574218524
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Using hildr is so fun holy shit. I love my mecha daughterwife
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I hope people enjoyed my LoC edit tutorial.
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>>574513286
She's great, I'm still using her in part 3 and she's still putting up good damage
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>>574511278
im not even aware there was a modding community, tinyfixes guy hasn’t been here for well over a year now.
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>>574513286
Hild is great
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>>574514118
Oh shit my friend, you are missing out!
https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/Paradox_mods
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>>574513286
She is quite the toaster.
Her sister lays it down hard on how much of a moron she is.
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>>574514571
Its not her fault, blame her parents for building her that way.
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>>574514385
I’ve tried using the .rb mods(the ones that just need you to drop the file into the patch folder) but it doesn’t seem to work
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>>574514385
……..I’m not really sure what I’m missing out on here I’m gonna be honest. Most of these just seem like his mods anyways (some of which were nice but others are of varying quality, which he was aware of tbf) and the rest are just kinda, well, cheat codes in a game that doesn’t really need them anyway. Or things like walking diagonally, which is just kinda eh I guess.

I was expecting something like that hypernetunia dimension mod some guy made years back or someone having found the old Cecil/Ina one.
I don’t mean to rain on your parade though, it doesn’t really look like a community thing, but it is still a little nice to see other people making their own mods for this.
So thank you regardless.
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>>574514571
her sister is an even bigger moron than hild on top of being a pretentious egotistical shit and she better watch her mouth if she doesn’t want another asswhooping.
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>>574515184
How is it possible?... You patched your game correctly, right?

>>574515238
Some mods are very useful though.
PresentsMarker allow you to keep track of what character gave you things, and if they gave you everything.
Features_Char is good if you want to know everything about your characters.
Unopened_Chests is in case you want to check if you missed a chest somewhere in the world.
Priest_Race_Change does exactly what it say it does, and it's convenient.
IncreasedItemCap, no more only 99 items! 999 is there!
Enemy_Display allow you to know what you are figthing, a bit of a cheat, though.
Ultimate Magical Girl Ultimate Fix is a must have.
Audience of Sorcerers can be considered a cheat, but this make things so much easier.
Accelerated_Menu_Scrolling, when you are deep into the game and every menus are full, it's such a godsend to be able to go thought them faster.
I really love them..
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My supremely cute daughterwife Mini!
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>>574515807
All of those are his is my point.
Honestly I think 80% of that page is him at minimum. He made a lot of them. also some of those are bug fixes, which isn’t really the same as a mod, but in my opinion far more valuable than a mod. the magical girl thing was discovered because the harpyfag was looking through the files while trying to edit his wife’s battlelines and realized trtr had actually added the skill but botched the class to not give it and asked tinyfixesguy to fix it for the thread since he just used cheese to give it to her directly and doesn’t know how to code.

Some of his qol stuff was fun though. The one I liked the most was the edit to make Luka’s portrait and sprite change over the story so he’s not stuck in the bizarre pretzel pose frfr originally drew him in for the entirety of the game.
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>>574516345
I felt sooooo pissed about the magical girl part.
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>dl'd the raw 3.06
>dl'd the mtl 3.06 + tiny improvement link
>dl'd the latest manual tl
>apparently will have to manually merge the mtl and the manual tl using winmerge
>then patch and hope nothing breaks
I can do this, I think
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>>574516580
Eh? Shouldn't the bob path come with the normal translation?
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>>574516676
is it the latest one? I thought if I'm gonna do it then I might as well. Idk how much of the manual I'm losing out on
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It's Morgin' Time!
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>>574516482
him being convinced by the thread that “ultimate charge” was totally intentional and must have just been a weird design choice trtr made to work with “justice” for some reason, and then it turning out that actually no trtr really did just totally fuck it up and completely bricked that class out of its final ultimate skill was hilarious.

And he STILL hasn’t fixed the bug, either. I remember him and others trying to find several way to pass the information to Japan with vpns and the like and they all just got blocked for being filthy gaijin. Last time I checked (re: literally today right before posting this) the Japanese wiki still lists it giving ultimate charge and none of them have ever figured this out.


Part of me feels bad but it’s kind of funny now, honestly. They’ve had well over a year to notice and fix it and none of them even seem to realize it’s still giving the wrong skill.
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>>574517005
Coexistence. It's not happening in real life!
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>>574515807
Do I have to activate the bat file in the one click patcher for it to work?
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>>574517234
Yes. It's Start Patch after all.
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>>574516830
What was the point of psychic skills? No really. What was the point of them, when TrTr was going to add Galactic that worked as a non-type element anyways?
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>>574517310
Ohhhhhhh.
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>>574517423
Oooooh that's a good thing to note!
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>>574516830
Well Guten Morgin' to you too Morkin.
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>>574517452
Good question. And then, half of them can't be used by male characters. Thanks BRO!
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>>574517005
HE STILL HASN'T FIXED IT?!
Like I get the schardenfreude (I remember that, I was trying to add the cut in and fix typos for Reina) but I can’t believe he still hasn’t fixed it in later versions. And yeah VPNs did nothing they detected them and blocked anyways. Someone actually knew a guy in Japan and asked him to pass it along but I don’t think we ever found out if something came from that.
I did the sidequest just for that one skill too so it was kind of ridiculous to run into that, at least she got it with cheese but still.
I miss tinyfixes anon, too. Hope he’s alright.
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>>574516830
>morgs all over the place
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>lose reina
>grand improvement
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>>574517873
I mean, have you seen a new version? Trtr doesn't like us.
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>>574517452
I'm still not really sure what psychic actually is supposed to be. Is it supposed to be a succubus only thing? Morrigan seems to be the only one that uses it, even if it is found on other characters. Was TrTr using some obscure class from another RPG as a reference? Like the FF Blue Mage for Sorcery?
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>>574518096
Hes working on NG++ and a novel because he does like us.
Well, maybe not foreigners idk about that part but he clearly cares and it’s just a funny oversight.
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>>574518078
>sonya lose*
>reina kinda dancing
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>>574517310
Alright, so I load the files in the patch file, then I go to the One-Click patcher file and activate Start Patcher.bat right?
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>>574518683
Normally you put the patches/mods after you ran Start Patcher.
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>>574518818
I already did patch it a while ago though, didn't work.
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>>574519017
That's weird, I'm just as lost as you;
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>>574519139
Either way I've activated start patcher, let's see if it works. If not, oh well.
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>>574518078
>Hiruko mom
Holy based, I want to turn Hiurko into a mother.
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>>574518125
My best guess is that it's supposed to be the succ dryfish aura but weaponized
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Yeah nope, mods just straight up don't work. Oh well.
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We meet again.
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>Chrome summons zombies to drive tresspassers out
>Picrel
KEK.
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>The guards sent to investigate the mansion were unharmed, but raped.
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>>574520798
many such cases
I wouldn't like stinky zombie pussy though...
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>>574518078
>furries terrible
Based
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>>574518125
blue mage isn’t really obscure, but I think psychic is a fun class
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>>574520798
Some of these men will never be able to have sex with a living woman ever again. Good thing necrophilia is legal in MGQ, because you can't be racist to zombie girls.
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>>574521115
only if the zombie is into it (chrome is banned from necromancy in the original story because the corpses did not consent)
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The fuck is a chi pa pa?
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Well doesn't this look like an upgrade to the slug queen?
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>>574522651
Not really. Four random enemies is a special version of normal attack so they can't use other upgraded versions that you unlock later.
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>>574522519
minor wind sprites kinda
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>>574522519
It's a Chi Pa Pa
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>Elves are supposed to be pure and noble
>The one I caught has a lvl 3 in prostitution
Why are they like this?
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>>574523645
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Good to see you again Sylph!
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>Sylph notices the ever so slight difference in ability between VN Luka and Paradox Luka.
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What the fuck are YOU? Is that my sword?
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>>574524284
TENSHI!!! TENSHI TENSHI TENSHI!!!
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This obsession with angels, those wings on your body, that sword... could it be?
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INCOMING KINO
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>>574524476
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Oh shit Nero in for the save?
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>>574518078
>tamamo worry
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Oh shit he's allies with Neris? And it looks like Neris actually is one our side?
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>>574524606
What a coincidence that ordinary passerby just happened to be passing by!
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>>574524532
*NONSTOP KINO
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I knew it. The beserker was Heinrich himself.
But Nero. That skin and hair, that quote about the morning star... COULD IT BE!?
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>>574524824
What, you don't have blue skin like some kind of peasant?
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>>574524687
Tbf he attacked white rabbit to save Neris back in treasure cave, and Neris calls his one-liner cringe after he leaves.
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>>574524824
>He knows Ninefold Rakasha
>HE KNOWS MONSTER LORD'S CRUELTY
MY SON. MY BABY BOY. IS THAT YOU!?
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>>574524964
Try Chaos Drive.
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>>574524964
He just looking out for daddy!
Neris is the daughter, twins they were
Nero solos though
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>Paradox Luka has a flash back to VN Luka's revelation regarding his mom
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>>574525184
Obviously that she was an ordinary human housewife.
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WELL THAT WAS FAST.
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Yer an angel, ruka
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>>574525309
Congrats, you now have an actual race worth a damn!
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>>574524964
I mean in a way yeah heh
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>>574516791
Turns it it might have been the latest one! At least that's what winmerge is telling me. Oh well, I was never that good at tinkering.
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>>574518078
>enjoy furries
I genuinely did not expect to cum buckets when seeing Barghest in "action", but accidentally losing to one is how I learned how to love to
>experience furry
every once in a while
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Lazarus. What kinda mafia shit are you getting into?
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Well look who it is!
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>The ost
my fucking sides.
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>>574529030
A red ranger with no blue, green, white, black, pink, or yellow rangers.....
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>>574529030
More like PUFFY Kaiser
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>Eva joins without my consent.
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>Justice girl is Elka's daughter
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>>574529257
She's a Kamen Rider
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What the fuck is going on in Rubina?
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>>574530761
"God" only knows.
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>>574530761
I mean it's kinda obvious, it's exactly as it seems
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Do any of the part 1/2 characters get new scenes in part 3? especially the main story ones alice/illias/angels/main demons etc
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>>574530761
Sounds like they all went to a farm upstate.
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>>574531280
If by "scenes" you mean H-scenes, then exactly two (2) characters get new ones in Part 3, and neither of them are most people's first fap choice. One of them is an angel, the other one is... well definitely not an angel. I will say nothing else but that, because trust me when I say, that's more than vague enough to not be a spoiler
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>>574533027
Thanks anon, damn that's disappointing a bit. Who gets new ones? I dont mind knowing
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>>574505429
Kemono, no. Kemonomimi, often the case.
Beware the dreaded cosplay girl sliding into your monster girl games.
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>cocky monster brat pulls down your pants
>your dick is thicker than her arm
>too late to back down now
>there's her monster pride on the line
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>>574541025
>your dick is thicker than her arm
The little fairy slut knew what she was doing.
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>>574541162
>fairy
Flying onaholes...
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>>574530761
The rapture
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>The puppeteer who gave us the hint for the magic thread is in cahoots with Black Alice
Holy SHIT. Good eye there alice.
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Wait. This is THE black alice. The one from the VN.
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>>574543190
The young girl with modest breasts...
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>Said puppetmaster made puppets out of top notch boomer monsters, all named after famous South American and Japanese(and other religious) deities
>Multiple previous monster lords made their appearance.
Jesus christ. So it's all just Black Alice. There is no monster lord power struggle.
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Interesting. Chrome is a powerful summoner while Fredericker is a monster with Counterattacks. Is there any item that increases the chance of enemies attacking you?
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>>574543812
there should be, they come in passives later too
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>>574543190
Well that's not suspicious.

>>574543287
>The young girl with modest breasts...
Setouchi's habits tend to forget as much...

>>574543295
Bro, you're misreading a bit there.
The ML "struggle" at your point in Part 1 involves the currently living 15th as well.
And I think Neris?
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>>574543975
Oh I remembered Nerris but I thought Alice's mom was also a puppet. Whoops.
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>>574543903
Oh the rainbow nail polish exists. It can be stolen from High slugs too. Time to commit robbery.
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>>574543072
>in the vn luka and alice decide chrome should become a puppeteer because its less dangerous than necromancy and ghosts
>Paradox goes out of its way to make puppeteer the most fucked up of the family
Bravo trtr
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>>574544580
Chrome should have become a doctor, take the science pill, and abandon the idea of controlling inanimate objects using magic.
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Interesting. According to scorpion girl, there's a Roach Queen.
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>>574544580
>Paradox goes out of its way to make puppeteer the most fucked up of the family
tbf those puppets are a combination of all 3 arts
So at a baseline, it's the "least fucked up"

>>574544756
Chrome does keep access to the powerful Doctor buffs, which it's a good idea to add to her arsenal if you're using her.
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Welcome back old friend.
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Oh dear. Sabasa's pretty fucked in this timeline. Honestly the other nations seem to fucked considering they're in a war.
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>>574546232
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>>574543295
Nice picture of Luka's wife
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Ah I imagine this is the work of those succubi assholes again.
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ALREADY!?
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So this is witch hunt village in this timeline.
>It's having its own civil war
Jesus, everything in this timeline is going to shit.
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>>574547991
What a few decades of No Ilias does to a world!
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Cutie!
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Oh shit. She really did awaken her succubus side.
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>>574548548
Super cute assassin.
Get's ruined by the game needing almost every female human to be a BFer. She gets stuck with a crappy BFer trait, has no PC interactions, or affection gifts.
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>>574548789
She has a bunch of CGI that were never added to the game proper where she's actually fucking Luka, I wonder what made them decide to back off actual sex, guess it would be odd if luka could endure being in a pussy without cumming himself silly be it human, monster or angel, we know he still feels it from human women because of Selene from the VN
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>>574548548
>>574548789
I don't care for traits, I'll use a girl even if she's at the bottom of the meta, but if you don't give her any world interactions and make her feel like a modded character that ruins it for me.
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Interesting. The mummies have the noble job. Cool fact.
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>>574549117
Funny you would say that.
The BFers were never meant to be recruitable, or at least TrTr had trouble adding them to the recruitment base originally, since they were not acquirable during Part 1, and the earliest versions of Part 2.
Their poor traits, and the lack of any interactions probably stems from these characters being only playable late into the game's development.
On that note, we do see a possible throwaway BFer getting upgraded to main character status with Konstanz. Her name in the files is mob(designation for BFers) Kisi(or female knight in Japanese).
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>>574549795
Random Irrelevant Trivia
The magical girl BF has 2 file names as both Marin and Mahou Shoujo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMSpTf05GBc
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The nefertiti lamias also attack 4 times, but I guess that doesn't count like the Slug queens does it?
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>>574549795
Queen Remina might not have originally been the character we got in the end either. Her name in the data files is MobHime. I'm not sure if I'm right about this, but isn't hime a word for just princess? I think queen in Japanese is jouu, so the character might have been upgraded in importance too.
I wonder if the princess in the Heinrich Tartarus might have been originally a BFer, but TrTr dropped it with the incest is bad excuse.
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She really is straight up a succubus.
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Welcome back Sara!
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Assholes.
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What cowards lmao. I'm really starting to dislike them.
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What's with succubi in our games coming in groups of three?
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>L-Squad scene
My favorite...
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>>574551493
Trouble comes in threes
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>>574551398
Deal with it.
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>>574551493
>>574552330
Based
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>>574552330
I love Morrigan so much. I wish she was real.
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>>574550695
Before the patch where you can give her a much deserved ring, she wasn't even a complete party member, lacking gifts scenes and the only option being to bf her. She was obviously made more important later, but she still had more than the other genetics with the while carrying her sprite and being the last of the bf squad in the final part.
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>>574552330
>Still no rings for them
Trtr better deliver.
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Huh. So apparently there is no real concern of monsters causing humanity to die out from overbreeding
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>>574553959
Yeah, that infamous Grandeur theatre scene.
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>>574553959
Promestein despite being science and logic driven forgets monsters are selfish(also it's good food why would you let someone else eat your own plate?) and according to the qna don't like cucking other monsters.
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>>574554557
>>574554557
>and according to the qna don't like cucking other monsters.
But they do, do this

>>574553959
She's a reddit scientist
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>>574553959
harpies and mermaids can have sons at will too which helps
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>>574553959
Dragon princess is hungry shows us what fucking happens when selfish powerful monster go on fucking too many human boys and ether turning or killing the female humans. Prom's an idiot who censuses loge tics with self interested desires. There's litterally only 1 human male left and the strongest monster on the planet has claimed him for herself and he himself has expressed desire for only her and because there are no other human males or human females left once he has a daughter with her and expires that's the end of humanity and neither of them care.
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>>574553959
Men should just have harpy wives and there's no problem.
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>>574553959
Only from a supply demand perspective. If the man falls in love with monster pussy and also have an abundance of it, its over for humans
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LAZARAS. What on earth have you gotten yourself into? Like it's not that your just involved, but your the HEAD OF THE WHOLE BUSINESS!?
>Merlin
the MAGE Merlin!? The guy that Lazaras travelled with in the VN!? No wonder they know each other?
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>>574553959
Sounds like Redditstein needs to be sealed up in a cave again.
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Do you think monster sisters bully their brothers in... naughty ways
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>>574553959
Prom's solution works if there is no emotion to the act of procreation.
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>>574555214
Everything’s better with Harpies!
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Promestien is my least favorite angel, and I'm the guy who loves almost all of them.

>>574555681
That's exactly how she thinks, IIRC she tells a gambler that 'its just chemicals in the brain dude" when he says he doesn't like machines and prefers people like no duh, she'll also tell people to eat nutrient paste and water saying that you can survive with that. I really dislike her
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>>574555065
It's an interesting thing to wonder. Does humanity live in even if all our offspring are dragons and shit?
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>>574555432
Yeah, the world is topsy turvy in paradox
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Grangold's king seems fucking jacked in this timeline.
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>>574555852
the older one calls her younger self self-righteous and both of them have a habit of abandoning all logic and reason for science no matter how stupid or demented what they’re doing is (up to cloning fucking echidna) so I feel like on some part this was always the intended way to view her by trtr
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>>574555852
she has chosen to perish as a dog
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I'm going to be entering the witch hunt sidequest soon and it seems I'm going to have to choose between Lily and Lucia in terms of recruits. Which do you anons recommend?
>>574555852
>>574556438
Lucia back in the VN criticises Promestein for this exact autism actually, for being too radical but in the other direction and ultimately creating problems meant to be solved in the timespan of multiple generations by accelerating science way too quickly.
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>>574556302
I don't, she sometimes seems like she acts as one of his mouthpieces. She's written like how a dumb person thinks a smart person is
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>>574555852
What do you have against autistic people?
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>>574556860
Her plan for world peace is bonkers, and no way is TrTr condoning it.
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>>574555214
cant if everyone has harpy wives there'd be a harpy shortage.
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>>574555935
No it doesn't.
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>>574556914
She isn't autistic, she's retarded pretending to be smart, She'll tell you to use the heroin directly into your brain and auto masturbator, but if you ask her why doesn't she do that, if its all just chemicals she'll most likely pretend to not understand or say she doesn't want to
Death to the Redditor scientist,

>>574556952
I wouldn't put it past him sadly
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>>574556624
Lucia
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>>574557256
>I wouldn't put it past him sadly
She’s clearly made out to be in the wrong on it in multiple ways, I don’t think it’s hard to imagine trtr intended for her to be in the wrong
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>>574556624
Lily I think is a more interesting character, and her world , and character interactions are more stand out compared to Lucia.
On the other hand, Lucia is just a better party member overall. She is going to be you main alchemist for most of the game if you pick her, with maybe, one future recruit getting close to how good to the role she is.
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>>574556624
Shouldn't you pick the girl whose point of view you agree more with given the sidequest?
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>>574557256
Looks like the truth of this world is too difficult for you to understand.
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>>574520381
Try replacing your Patch.rb with the one you download from the wiki, that worked for me, the one from the wiki had a few more lines of code than the one that came with my download
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>>574557092
The trick is to just keep making more and more harpies.
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>>574559760
if that happens then there'd be a husband shortage and i'd be sad.. husbandless harpies are a tragedy..
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>>574559848
Then the harpy wives just have more boys to even things out. It's an art.
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>>574560098
supply and demand..
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i love my adorable autistic wife
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I saw the MGQ wiki was quite behind with the pages about villages, cities and dungeons of part 3, so for Alice Route I added overview, shops, loot, enemies etc. up to the current translation. Might need some folks to double check them and fix any mistakes. I even got that MTL to finish the route just so everything related to it has something written like shops and enemies. Basically every article related to that route has some info now. Speaking of the translation it got slowed down considerably. Any news when the next translation batch comes?

Anyway what I wanted to ask everyone is if there's anything else that needs contribution? I should mention I'm currently waiting for the arzor-x translation to reach the end of those 2 routes so I can go into the other one. I only rushed with the MTL to add non story info ahead of time. Meaning I can't add to Ilias Route's pages yet. And I'm not messing with adding stuff into their data modules. Those things are beyond my understanding.
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>>574560861
My wife, Doppel, and her sisters, Doppels,.
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>>574561283
There's already info on them...
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>>574562225
For the base MGQ and Paradox enemies......
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>>574560861
I suppose we can finish the monster dialogue list for both routes. They are the main source in getting world building information for their AU, since the party really doesn't have time to take in the atmosphere, or lack of. I think San Ilias of both worlds is where the wiki stopped.
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>>574560861
my wife promestein
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>>574558941
The fuck? It works now. The one on the wiki was for 2.41, the one I did have was for the latest version, 3.06. Why the fuck did only the former work?
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>>574562497
>I suppose we can finish the monster dialogue list for both routes.
Which pages are those? I don't think I've seen them by now.
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>>574560861
>the translation got slowed down considerably
so i wasn't the only one thinking that
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>>574562916
https://mgq.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Monsterpedia:_Paradox_Chapter_3
The link is strangely highlighted in red, indicating the page doesn't exist. But all the monster in Part 3 are on this page. Chaos route has nothing of note in the profiles outside of their stats. While the Decision route monsters have all their stats and encyclopedia descriptions posted, but not all of them have their battle dialogue translated.
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>>574556860
New fear unlocked.
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>>574563548
It used to be monthly last year, then every 2 months and now the last one took 4 months. Some guy is fixing spelling mistakes every so often but that's about it. I don't blame them since it's a lot to translate. I just haven't heard anyone talk about it to know if anything happened. Wish there was some transparency.

>>574563569
So basically the battle dialogue? Is there any way to access those lines with RPG Maker? Any specific location these are kept? Because I don't think spamming Talk over and over would be efficient...
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>>574564354 (Me)
Ah wait there's also Pocket Castle interactions, gift lines, gadabout actions etc. Gift lines is probably the easiest but also the most time consuming with minimum info. And castle interactions having to brute force every NPC might not be too efficient but I could try to find whatever I can. The battle dialogue would probably be the hardest to brute force with how many variations there are. I wouldn't know when I'm done.
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>>574562886
Dunno if it's the same but in my case I remember the original file that came with the download didn't have the highlighted code, which is what actually loads the mod files, so the original patch file did literally nothing except raise an error if it was on the wrong version
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>>574560517
Young prom...
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>>574564354
I can't say what program the anon did, It most likely wasn't RPGMake though, but someone here did show that for all the messy spaghetti this game's code is made up of, the character specific dialogue and events are pretty easy to find if you know what they are called in the data.
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you may not agree with or like prommy, but she gets results
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>>574566274
>the character specific dialogue and events are pretty easy to find if you know what they are called in the data.
Yeah that's the problem. I don't know anything about that. I could try to use RPG Maker and attempt to figure it out myself but that might take some time with the sheer volume of this game's content and where everything is stored.
>It most likely wasn't RPGMake though
Then I have even less of a clue.
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>>574555672
Nah, they think their brothers are cringy if we go by Nero and Neris
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>>574560517
When it feels like all the world is wearing a frown
Put a smile on and spread it around!
God, I LOVE when usually serious/emotionless girls smile like this.
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>>574555852
She's just a dumb autist anon and her crazy plans are meant to sound insane.
Besides for someone who says 'It's all just chemicals bro' she becomes the closest thing to Luka's canon wife in the doomed Hild timeline, her ring scene even points it out.
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>>574555672
Gross, no. Daughters bully their fathers.
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>>574569026
I follow that up in a later post >>574557256 I also didn't know about her ring scene, but that fits into what I think of her and its still spot on
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All good monster girl games have a mad scientist, even Dieselmine has scientist succs.
This symbolizes how humanity's only hope to meet monster girls in real life is science because God is knows the catastrophic consequences they'd have in our society.
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>>574569445
Cute nerdy girl is a common fetish.
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Prom would shout "OH MY SCIENCE!" unironically
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>>574569445
If we don't count Humans, and I do, because human women are monsters on the inside. The next big brainy species are Succubi in MGQ. Even if they are giant whores, they have a lot of professionals in the fields of science and magic science. They even have the biggest brainy girl of them all with The All Knowing One, who is a succubus whose real name is Meteora .
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>>574570545
>The next big brainy species are Succubi in MGQ
>Succubus Village be like
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if only prom was more useful
does she get buffed in part 3
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>>574570545
Now this is another nitpick of mine, but TRTR is REALLY biased for succs that its seriously off putting to me, it doesn't help how they are some of the biggest trouble makers but are allowed to go free with it all
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>>574570867
Double standard baby!
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>>574570835
Unspoiler answer, yes she does get some unique stuff later that makes her viable for endgame teams. It is pretty late though.
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>>574570867
even in monster society there is inequality
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>>574570867
To be fair, several succs do get punished for the stuff they do, it's just that the punishment is also a punishment for you too, arguably
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>>574570960
>Unspoiler answer
>spoile things
GG
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>>574571140
https://pastebin.com/zuHTZ5yN
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>>574570867
The more casually sadistic ones are called out and punished by their progenitor who does admit that most of their hedonism is a dead end and unfortunate destiny for their race. The sisters themselves are shown to hate that they have to actually kill a lot of people but they are just simply following orders and trying not to think about the fact they sacrificed themselves for their plan.
The real problem is that trtr thinks that the things going on in peaceful succ village are for comedy despite how awful they look and his fetish for Alma snuff scenes makes her look worse than he intended.
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>>574570867
It's not really that the species itself has a shitload of geniuses, they are still seen as stereotypical scummy whores. It's that there are so many succubi recruits, they all got a spot dedicated to a job class(which includes brainy professions).
So we have a succubus nurse, a succubus alchemist, puppeteers, necromancers, magic specialists, etc..
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>>574571323
https://exhentai.org/g/1591460/c9ad3e2c2a/
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>>574571471
>The real problem is that trtr thinks that the things going on in peaceful succ village are for comedy despite how awful they look and his fetish for Alma snuff scenes makes her look worse than he intended.
I feel its the opposite, he does it to make the succs look better and put them higher, like Minagi's design was around forever and he changed her personality and such and made her way more 'mary sue' ish and such, he is a fan of having his cake and eating it too, as most of the succs have convenient excuses for their horrible actions
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AIEEE SAVE ME SPOILERMAN
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>>574571950
>convenient excuses
Ain't that the truth. All monster girls have that, but it's even more obvious for them. And you know what they say, once or twice is fine, but all the time isn't.
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>>574571471
last I heard Alma’s scenes in the castle aren’t snuff, and it’s only if you ask for it or die in the fight itself
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>>574571471
The lilith sisters DO feel bad for kiling people, but also the whole ludidite debacle makes them look like sociopaths for how much they're into gleefully murdering a bunch of people. Like sure, a lot of people in luddite deserved it, but the lillith sisters still look like horrible people
>>574572293
I'm not used to using spoilers okay I don't have to use them that often
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>>574572402
There's always that asshole like you.
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>>574572402
I think he's talking about VN alma, who's introduction just has her walk up to luka and just straight up attempt to kill him for no real reason. Alma cannot possibly assess Luka as an actual threat to monsters given he's traveling with the monster lord and doesn't care and wants to kill him anyways and Alice just lets this happen because lol, lmao.
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>>574572579
>who's introduction just has her walk up to luka and just straight up attempt to kill him for no real reason
>inb4 nooooo Luka is a hero so it's totally justified
>nooooo Luka started it first
Like the fucking retards that they are.
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They fought to save the world is what they did. They were brave cross-world explorers. And this general, the Lilith sisters are heroes. End of story.
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Thinking about it, I really do think that the Echidna and Luddite stuff was trtr wanting to have his cake and eat it too. he REALLY REALLY wanted to have them dryfish people but didn't want them to be morally culpable for it so they dryfish wife beaters or get mind controlled
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>>574573445
You don't say? And kids too.
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>>574572565
….how does saying that make me an asshole?
All I said is that from my understanding she doesn’t kill you in the castle unless you ask her too. And the last time I looked in the archive for this, someone was complaining that Alma won’t even do that and he had to go to hades or something to get the versions where she kills him.
That’s pretty inoffensive. I don’t get why that’d upset you.
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>>574573565
I think he's talking about spoilers
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>>574573445
Nah it's just her woman moment where she says it's okay when I do it.
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>>574573445
When the DM want to include his fetish into the game without thinking things through except the DM is from Kenkou Cross school so it's worse than normal.
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>>574573261
Just like the Succubus Prison Trio, I do like the respect they hold for each other. Even Morrigan gets angry if you call her sisters fat.
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You know, the mild crashout from the sisters being giga sluts and what TrTr did during part 3 with them makes me wonder, do they have ship wars in japan over paradox luka's penis and who deserves it or do they want this Luka to be a man whore? I honestly can't imagine waifuing someone from this game considering only a handful of them are virgins even less are important enough to even have a shot at Luka as far as ships tho, I do know that despite being an unashamed slut Alma has a lot of popularity over there to the point she got to be in a few crossover titles where she fucks the protagonist of those games to death
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>>574572435
I mean, what were they supposed to do, cry as they raped the luddites, who very much deserved it, to death? They even took pity on a little abused girl and saved her even when it was counterproductive to their plan. Sure, the set up is contrived because of the fetish they represent and they don't look very good in part 1, but calling them monsters is an exaggeration. And the whole Marcellus thing is usually exaggerated, he was the one who ignored their warnings and tried to fight them to the death.
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>>574574681
People are stupid, especially Japaneses! News at 11!
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>>574574775
they were strong enough to beat him without killing him, their pride was too strong to allow him to fight them, lose and not be raped and or killed.
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>>574574775
Anon there's nuance to things, just because I think that them gleefully killing the luddite villagers (including kids and dogs who absolutely did not deserve it) doesn't mean I need them to comically cry over it either, just have them be disgusted, mass drain them,and move on. Them enjoying it so much comes off as them wanting an excuse to kill a bunch of people as opposed to exacting justice.
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>>574574681
Not really, the shipping stuff was only really prominent in the VN, and that is because a winner was decided by the author. Paradox Luka has the wedding ring options, and even if we ignore that, no female gets named Mrs. Hein at the end anyways.
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>>574574775
>act like monster
>kill everyone except girls
>calling them monsters is an exaggeration

>And the whole Marcellus thing is usually exaggerated, he was the one who ignored their warnings and tried to fight them to the death.
How DARE Marcellus want to try to fight people who make it clear they are going to cause trouble!
Also take not on how uncharacteristically they act in this moment. As if they wouldn't just unga bunga.
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>>574574681
Eh, while the nips purityfags are usually extremely annoying, I doubt they care in this case. I sincerely doubt people who like Tamamo or Alma worry much about the fact that they raped God knows how many hundreds or thousands to death in the past, the only issue would be them doing that after getting a ring but that's casually disproven in their respective scenes.
What they usually rage against is when there are scenes that don't feature the protagonist. It's one of the reasons the generic war scenes in the original trilogy were heavily disliked.
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>>574575036
Mrs Hein should go fuck herself!
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>>574574775
They took pity on all(or almost) the women. The entry on Harem says that most of them in the attack are actually girls transformed by the sisters.
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>>574574891
This is a weirdly consistent thing about succubi and monstergirls, if you even minorly insult their pride they have to kill you now
>>574575224
How the fuck did Trtr double down with it with the echidna scenes, then?
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>>574572435
To be fair, it’s mostly on Morrigan, but she’s also the only one who doesn’t indulge in sadism despite having the highest kill count. The other two only killed one person each, not even moving from their positions until you arrive. Morrigan chastises them for dragging things out and proceeds to blitz the place in ten seconds or less, without even touching anybody, ironically being the most professional one there. Given Lilith would’ve had to set up those teleportation circles to evacuate all the woman and young girls before they started this (evidenced by lily’s sidequest), they were probably particularly angry with them due to seeing what the victims were going through first. Two innocent guys being caught in the crossfire (undercover priest and the traveling merchant) was unfortunate as well. But I’d like to think they were able to merge since they weren’t from nor lived in Luddite.

Echidna is absolutely trtr inserting an excuse to have the full “sadistic dryfishing experience” without wanting the Lilith Trio to be accountable for their actions though, to the detriment of everyone else (including them given it fucks them up afterwards). Which is why Morrigan joins in that time and it went from a short tension building cutscene to several cutscenes that lasted for three to five minutes focusing on them tormenting trapped rats because of space aids.
And why Astaroth has two unused versions of the train. Trtr really, really wanted that for some reason and it’s kind of absurd the sheer commitment he had to getting this. It’s easily the part harmed most by being an h-game.
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>>574575293
Which is funny because it's shown that most Succubuses, most being the important word, have no pride judging by Succubus village.
Maybe they hate being reminded of that.
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Genuinely kind of Hilarious how Echidna is seemingly the one thing i've NEVER seen someone in this thread defend on any level. Narrative, in universe, or otherwise. I've seen back and forth arguments about almost every single plot beat in this series but not a single person defends that one, ever.
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>>574575724
I haven't met her yet, but when I finally play the game I might. I just like Xelvy's girls
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>>574575724
She is one note and her dungeon while a bit funny is annoying. So there are no retards that is going to pull out some of the stupidest arguments to defend her.
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>>574575825
It's not about the character herself, per se, bad design aside. It's more about what she does.
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>>574575724
There's nothing wrong with one of the calamities being a biological disaster in the form of a sex virus, and the Lilith sisters being the one spreading it does act as a callback to part one. It is still a very questionable decision since it's just an excuse to make them run around fucking towns to death.
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>>574574891
NTA but you have too remember White Rabbit gave Alice I the prophecy that got them sent to the singularity world in the first place but deliberately withheld information on who Luka was, despite the MW having no knowledge of him due to that bloodline never existing in the MW at all. As such they had literally no idea who Marcellus was and had no way of knowing it, since their plan was to move everyone over by killing them and funneling the souls, only for the first guy they run into coincidentally being someone who would cause a time crash if he died too early, forcing the universe’s emergency systems to cobble together a replacement Marcellus. Which was part of her plan since it meant Luka would inherent his dad’s ability to cross dimensions and thus be able to solve the problem in the long term.
It’s less them and more her manipulating them and exploiting events in order to create a version of Luka who could stop chaos due to her having grown despondent over her function and wanting to save the worlds instead of continuously destroying them; the trio were just her means to an end.
I’m saying this because I think White Rabbit’s plan to supercharge Luka is pretty cool, to the point she’s willing to die and gift him her power so he can do what she cannot.
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>>574576239
>I’m saying this because I think White Rabbit’s plan to supercharge Luka is pretty cool, to the point she’s willing to die and gift him her power so he can do what she cannot.
The dolls are always obedient to its master
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>>574576225
I'd even argue Echidna might have been one of the more fun calamities if not for the forced town gangnabg cutscenes, having to go into lilith's womb to defeat her is a peak gag. It's a fine idea, but Trtr's fetish destroyed any good will it had
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>>574575724
>in universe
the "golden route" is literally just Luka wanting to save her.
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>>574576239
It's sad that White Rabbit didn't get her just credit for actually solving problems.
But I guess it would mean adressing that she manipulated characters, and so, a bit responsibly of the atrocities both sides commited. And we know that Trtr love sidestepping things.


>prophecy
To be honest, you have to be special kind of retard to not look at Luka and go This is the guy. But retardation is the name of the game.
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The thing that really sets up echidna as being an excuse to make the lillith sisters murderwhore, is that while trtr tries to cover his tracks by making the lillith sisters traumatized, it doesn't actually matter at all because they don't have any plot relevance any more so who gives a shit. Them being traumatized has no narrative weight because it's not like there's any time left to have a redemption arc or anything, it's just trtr covering his ass pretending like this is karma for the harpies.
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>>574575724
She’s definitely worthy of that dishonor. My biggest issue (other than the bizarro chibi stuff) is still how obviously forced she is. Prome openly admits she looks nothing like a lamia and more like a bug, but she’s still totally a lamia, because she was never meant to be that and trtr ended up throwing most of the lamia race themes out the window to warp the final race around her. But even in-universe it’s pretty telling how Luka just kills her instantly as the second thing he does in the montage, despite going out of the way to save every other calamity shown, and what finally makes the party flip tables in rage at Promestein in her island clone lab was the realization she had cloned that thing.
>>574576532
I honestly think she’ll be recruited by something Promestein does instead.
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>>574577206
>I honestly think she’ll be recruited by something Promestein does instead.
Ethically, it's over.
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>>574577576
That's coexistence baby
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>>574577576
I mean, if you scale up echidna to normal party size i guess she's rendered harmless because she cant actually infect anyone
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>>574577702
I feel like it's just existence in MGQ.
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>>574577104
For what it’s worth, I had AllTalk on and Lilith actually has dialogue for many of the things that happen after that, starting with throwing herself into Port Natalia as it’s attacked because she feels she must save the city in order to start atoning and redeem herself somehow, and ending with her confiding in Luka at the final camp about how she feels like she’s become the horrible mass murdering monster she was afraid she might end up being after Echidna made them to do that, with no hope for those souls due to no merging plan to save them anymore, which consumes her with guilt.
You will miss this if you don’t bring her along or have that mod, which I think hurts her a lot since other “important” characters retain their dialogue whether in the party or not without needing the mod, but he did attempt to do something with her in what’s left of the game after that. It’s still not the best idea on his end since it causes a lot of problems, and it’s hard to stomach echidna since she’s the most nauseating thing in the game, but at the very least, I appreciated that Lilith does actually dwell on it and doesn’t just move on abruptly and it did have a lasting impact.

You’ll just only really see this impact if you’re actually using Lilith, which is contingent on, well, you using Lilith after this.
Or having the mod.
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>>574578446
>AllTalk
I thought it was AI Talk instead of the mod lmao
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>>574578446
You know what, that's fair actually, i'll give Trtr points on that and partially rescind that criticism, I wont fully recind it because it's contingent on the very specific scenario of having lillith in your party but it's still something
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>>574577576
given Luka goes out of his way to kill her twice even after having admin console powers and Promestein’s only saving grace for the incident is that the enlarged Echidna is now incapable of infecting things due to replicating at the same size, preventing another space aids outbreak) it’s the most logical explanation.
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Echidna is going to have a sad backstory. A monster that is simply incapable of experiencing love herself because of how small she is, and can only feel love when she infects others. She thinks she is doing the world good by spreading that love. Luka and gang are going to teary eyed, and welcome her into the PC to live along side the other mass murderers, wannabe tyrants, and eldritch abominations.
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Aren't STDs making a resurgence into the world thanks to the succs?
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>>574579254
I hate how plausible this sound.
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>>574579716
It's a typical luka moment alright. Coexistence achieved.
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>>574579716
Luka did say he wanted to save them, but we don't know what he is saving them from. He must see something in their heats that can redeem them.
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>>574580360
Like with Hiruko?
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>>574580435
Considering her 2nd mom is going to be saved, it might be the key to saving her too.
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>>574580753
Thank you. I'm now throwing up.
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>>574577206
I mean Luka straight up kills the Phoenix Disaster too without any hesitation.
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>>574581296
that’s not in the montage, and her background is only revealed after she’s killed if Alice I is in the party, wherein Luka does feel bad for killing her and wishes he could’ve found another way but knows he had no other choice at the time.
When he gets his admin controls the first thing Luka does is get Sonya to not blow up Pornof; the second thing he does is immediately telefrag Echidna and eradicate her in the spot. This is during the same period where he’s going around saving or helping the other Calamities (and fixing other problems), but she’s the only one where he’s shown to give them no sympathy and kills them twice.
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>>574581296
It really was peak.
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>>574579254
She tries that after the fight, it just doesn’t work because she doesn’t have one.
Echidna is essentially an even more dangerous version of Est, being a self-indulgent hedonist who’s entire world view is wrapped around the idea of lust and pleasure, and who spreads her children around so her children can enjoy themselves, and because she finds pleasure in her forcing everyone else to be mindlessly slavish to their desires, and believes that even though this kills everyone she does it too (starving to death as their brain is eaten away and the body atrophies) it’s perfectly fine. Both of them also struggle to comprehend resisting them.

The difference is that Est, as dangerous as she is and how her plan would’ve also killed everyone, sincerely believes the core idea, not minding if it happens to her, and not minding being thwarted anyways. Because from her perspective as long as you found satisfaction in defeating her she still gave you pleasure in a sense, and on top of that her defeat gave her the “ultimate pleasure”, and that’s what she cared about. From Est’s POV she wins no matter what you do, only being disappointed if you tell her you didn’t enjoy it, because she didn’t give you pleasure then.

Echidna’s response amounts to “YOU UNGRATEFUL FUCKS” over the party daring to want to enjoy life in their own way and not be filled with mind controlling parasites that will lobotimize and kill them, and stalling Luka so she can teleport into Promestein’s heart in an attempt to either survive and destroy the world if he can’t bring himself to kill her or force Luka to kill Prome out of spite, only failing when he uses chaos powers to snipe her specifically, causing her to completely freak out as she dies.
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>>574583757
It help that Est's inclusion is a bit nonsensical.
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>>574583757
>and how her plan would’ve also killed everyone

Actually it would had made them all invincible since it'd all become a dream. It's just that it'd be a terrible state of living since it's nonstop fucking.
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>>574579254
>>574580360
I mean not a single calamity is worse than pisslias really if you think about both VN and all Paradox worlds.
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Foxes won
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>>574584998
She even became (part of) one herself and racked up the highest kill count of them all
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>>574578618
Since I took a lot of screenshots, I was able to find her main quote I was thinking of so you know she actually does do this.
The line is probably supposed to be “To atone for my sins”, but Lilith has a surprising amount of dialogue for the Port Natalia segment, and also comments on the irony of how she’s trying to personally help/save towns this time. While I try to be objective and fair when looking over things, had I not seen these due to AllTalk, I would not have felt as sympathetic towards her.
>>574584324
IIRC everyone would’ve been turned into disembodied dream spirits functionally no different from a thought, only able to mindlessly persist in one action forever.
The problem is both the “it’s not really a good quality of life” aspect and that Est is doing this in the middle of chaos devouring the planet, and chaos erosion (the entire dimension being erased from existence) is not something she can bypass, so if Est had won she would have doomed the planet to be devoured by chaos.
It’s less her killing everyone and more getting everyone killed as a byproduct of her end goal.
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>>574585769
Here, have some aburaage as a prize.
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>>574586497
That kill count is split three way!
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>>574587341
>is not something she can bypass, so if Est had won she would have doomed the planet to be devoured by chaos.
It is. If everyone was part of a dream then chaos can't actually hurt them like they can't hurt nightmares. All they can do is use their antinightmare powers to fuck the nightmares further not devour them.
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>>574586497
It's kind of hard to pinpoint a kill count when you don't have the full story. The Calamities with the biggest kill count we can actually tally is Angolmois, because she is the most active destroying towns, Magatsu-Omikami, who was rampaging in Grand Noah region, and Echidna, who was using the Lilith Sisters to accidently kill people. Everyone else was powering up, not interested in destruction, or had not been able to enter the world.
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>>574588098
Oh noooooo. Est is too powerful. What could they POSSIBLY do to f-
>CHAOS PLEASURE ATTACKS
Wow. How hard it was.
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>>574588549
She ultimately lost in her own game pretty hard, so much so, she doesn't even get to be the final boss. Est is overrated.
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>>574588549
It doesn't kill her so it's moot to their motives. It just further moves her agenda.
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>>574588720
The collab in itself is overrated, it's a bunch of random nonsenses added together.

>>574588723
>delete her from the world
Much difficult. Much wow.
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>>574588875
I mean if it happened after she succeeds it doesn't change a thing. Everyone else is now the same as her.
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>>574588259
I mean in terms of the number of parallel worlds they've destroyed. Angolmois says she's destroyed 30 so far, Koron says a million at one point, Jihad have destroyed too many to count. I get that it's not something you can narrow down to an exact number, but it still gets the point across that they're way outside the others' ballparks.
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>>574589114
>Angolmois says she's destroyed 30
How can she even call herself a Calamlity. What a fraud.
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>>574588875
>overrated
You can't mention the collab without one or two anons shitting on it every time. It draws more ire than MGE at this point, how much more disliked do you want it to be?
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>>574588098
chaos erases/deletes things, there’s nothing left. the base apoptosis would only be able to damage them in that manner, but the erosion itself isn’t an entity that can be beaten or ignored, it’s just a mindless facet of reality’s collapse that can’t be escaped, hence Luka’s ultimate plan being to create someone who could try to control the process since there’s literally nothing else that could be done about it. Est would not be able to stop it. Even Part Three furthered this by adding the anti-nightmare mechanic to all the main bosses that enables them to completely bypass nightmare immunity, with the Nightmare who tells you about it describing how it allows them to actually damage the nightmares and that Angolmois used it to wipe her village off the map.
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>>574588875
The whole point of the collab is that it was set up by Chaos now being able to effect the multi-verse even though she is from a timeline that didn't exist yet.
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>>574589043
>If God delete the thing that mean the thing won
Are you genuinely dumb?
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>>574589576
Thought you meant just kicked out of the universe because she can't actually harm Est
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>>574589305
Hey come on buddy, I wasn't saying it's bad...
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>>574589183
>How can she even call herself a Calamlity?
You would think her killing Alice (unless you gonna do ng+) if you fail to defeat her during final showdown should be enough. Killing Monster Lord is no small feat.
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>>574590753
For a Calamity, that's tiny.
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>>574589183
that’s kind of the point of her tbf, she’s a warmongering sadist who massacres the weak for fun, but she’s not nearly as strong as she thinks she is in-part because she just seems to keep going for low hanging fruit. Turns out spending all your time killing ants doesn’t actually prepare you for a fight, or the possibility that your only actual strategy might not succeed on an experienced opponent.
>>574589549
I remember at one point during it they also establish that if chaos (the force not DoC) succeeds in devouring reality and erases the multiverse, every version of the characters will cease to exist, and that they can’t just escape chaos or what happens by going to another game’s reality (something that’s consistent in its collabs). They’ll just get abruptly yoinked/erased.
The concepts of them are going to cease to exist, and if anyone from a different universe is still visiting when this happens they’re going down with the ship.
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>>574591073
>that’s kind of the point of her tbf
It does maker he disappointing.
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>>574589305
NTA but no one brings up the other subject because it is disliked more, rather than the other way around. Only a couple anons seem to fully hate the collab, and the general view I’ve seen is that it’s a mixed bag with good and bad.
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>>574591238
I really don't like being handed a bunch of low leveled, underequipped, jobless dolts that can't hurt a majority of the new enemies because they can't do pleasure attacks for shit.
The moment the hero gang gets together, the collab starts to move at a faster pace, because Luka and his gang are actually prepared to steamroll everyone and make the collab a joke.
I think it being released at the end of the Part 2 was it's major issue. If it was released during the end of Part 1, I don't think the power gap would be that bad if everyone was at a low level.
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>>574591836
lmao, skill issue, use whip skills!
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Valentine's Sphinx.
The context: Sphinx bought valentine's chocolate and ate it, not knowing it's supposed to be gifted to the boy you like. When she found out, she quickly put a bow on her hair and told Kazuya she was the valentine's gift.
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>Lily is even more of a retard victim in this timeline
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>>574597583
This triggers me because I spent the last two weeks redrawing my sphinx girl to the point where the only Egyptian part of the design left is the skin color.
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>>574598357
tbf the effects are the same in both, you just only learn them in this one
take Chirp around the town, her reactions to the news are almost as funny as what she says in the medal queen’s castle.
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>>574598357
Boy, you haven't seen anything yet when it comes to these worm summoners.
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>>574598682
She only has one line of dialogue, am I missing anything?
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>>574600253
I remembered her having two but not where they actually are.
But no I just find her lines very funny; the idea she’s actually considering it and is only put off by the tentacles is part of the running gag of Chirp being a lot more unhinged and power hungry than she looks on the surface. The implication at the MQ castle that she’d just totally fly off the deep end if she ever managed to become the queen and immediately go full psycho tyrant is hysterical to me, as well as Reina’s very appropriate reaction to Chirp casually telling her she watches others sleep at night to “figure out their weaknesses” (i.e, how to kill them, something she mentions to a couple other characters too).
She’s not evil and still pretty friendly, she just behaves like a normal sparrow, and sparrows are total nutcases.
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>>574591836
>underleveled
Not really, level cap was 60 so they'd only be like 5 levels under by that point unless you started postcollab patch and grinded. I guess there's the jobs but that doesn't really stop characters of Part 2 like Yamata no Orochi or Sphinx from being menaces even with a late recruitment unless you did serious mimic grinding and certain collabs are considered stronger.
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Shotas are an endangered species. If you're a monster girl and see a human shota alone, please be gentle with him.
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>>574610417
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>>574598357
It is because of that that most people would say she has a better Part 2 mini-arc.
Much like Ilias, starting a character off needing more development is often better than just making them a boring grape snek martyr from the start.
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>>574612450
Eh losing your powers to become better is not character development, the real character development was the VN especially for Luka and Alice.
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>>574615052
Nta but good job missing the point lmao.
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>>574615934
Still true though
Hiruko is better too
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>>574610417
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>>574621545
Super smart nerd foxes
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>turns out the castle never had a job change crystal, the version I was playing just had it cheated in
ilias temple every time I need to swap IS a little annoying
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>>574630317
Up until part 3 the inn sign in the pocket castle was a hidden way to quickly change jobs which is even in the original Japanese version, now you have to make trips to the temple every time until you recruit a character to stand at that exact spot to change jobs.
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I'd love to try out new strats but using Big sister Eden and her 2 rascals spamming spear and bow on Divine Dragoon and Eternity Hunter is kinda too effective right now
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>>574563569
After checking a bit the pages with what's in game just by playing, most of what's been translated has already been added, at least for Alice Route. And there isn't any set pattern. That wiki page you sent me contains all part 3 monsters but it doesn't help me, the library in game is more useful. You mentioned the wiki stopped around San Ilia, but that's also where most of the translation regarding these things stopped. There are some exceptions like the Black Alices from the invasion having some interesting short lines, but there are untranslated elements before San Ilia. Principality Nagael doesn't have any battle dialogue translated. Interacting with Yao while having Five-Tailed Taoist in your party prompts an untranslated dialogue, and these two are recruited before the Great Decision.


With all the inconsistencies, this is more of a treasure hunt and I'll update what I can find but there isn't much to add.
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>>574630912
Based trtr and his subtle environmental story telling that shows you how coexistence just makes things harder and gets in the way
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cowexistence
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>>574575724
Echidna is only good for the sole idea of having succubus/monstergirl biology lesson shrinking shenanigans. We did not need echidna for this.
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>>574636178
Using warp or wagon isn’t that inconvenient you know.
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>>574637704
Cowgirls? I smooch them and steal their milk
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>>574637704
I refuse to exist as a cowgirl
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>>574641375
You don’t have to be a cow to be milked. Your human milk will do just fine.
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>>574641375
Become a cowboy.
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Alma, why were you in Luka's bed?
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M*rm*ids...
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>>574651069
Someone cover El's ears! She can't hear this!
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Literally who?
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Please keep your dog girls on a leash so they don't chase after village boys.
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>>574651069
I would be Bonnie's semen dispenser.
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>>574651470
Char Aznable (cHAr AzNAbLe)
シャア・アズナブル (ア*ナ*ル)
That guy from Gundam even people who don't watch Gundam know.
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>>574652651
I knew his visor looked familiar.
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Jesus christ.
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>>574653179
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>>574651069
The Navy needs to get a increase in its military budget. Pirate rape crimes are simply too high. We need more Seahorse Girls patrolling the shores.
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What the FUCK!?
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>>574656087
Did you not remember that poor girl Lily turned into a tentacle blob in the original? That was probably one of the worst scenes in the original part one to me, I always felt really bad for her.
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>>574656387
Oh I do actually. I just didn't expect the blobs to still have human faces under there.
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>>574656465
she can turn back to the mid-way form a bit, but struggles to do it iirc
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Oh what in the actual fuck Lily. Weren't these things regular iron maidens transformed by magic in the original?
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>>574656665
Huh. I’ve never seen that.
That’s kinda messed up; Lucia was right again ban that book.
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>>574656659
I was super surprised when I saw her in the time loop
I had to look her up
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>>574656665
The iron of the Iron Maiden is probably not the girl. The tentacles inside is probably the girl, and she uses the maiden as a skin, or puppet.
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>>574658150
and that's less fucked up because....?
also the shell face changes emotions so...
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wait until he sees ironmaiden mark 2 and 3
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>>574659165
Nothing about being less fucked up, just trying to explain how an inanimate object came to life, but at the same time, being called a former human.
>>574656918
Many if the Worm Summoners want to remain like that, and some want to become one. Lucia is taking away a person's right of free choice.
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>>574659692
She’s also preventing people from going cuckoo or filling themselves with psycho worms and degenerating if/when their body can’t handle it, and points out how there would be a lot of people who’d lose their mind and become even worse if they got them since the worms make you crazy.
Sometimes it’s the right thing to do.
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I love woms.
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>turn on quad encounter
>keep maxing out jobs/races just from the short walk between MW Port Natalia to San Ilia for like an hour now
I love this game so much
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>>574660778
That's quite the big Santa!
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>>574660848
Tell me about it, Seeing the job levels go up feels so damn good.
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Ok, I think I'm starting to see why Lucia's a great Alchemist. Seeing as how there doesn't seem to be a shop for alchemy items, would I assume the method of grinding is to just stall an enemy while Lucia keeps generating alchemy items?
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Oh yeah, is there any fix to the game stuttering in part 3?
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>>574661416
It's more that she gets a free Stat All boost after using any alchemist skill. Give her a magic staff for another free magic boost, and she is doing some pretty good magic damage.
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illias just let me goooo
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>>574663194
Okay so It was one npc i didn't talk to
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Enough of theses birds,slimes,succubus,foxes what you guys favorite Insects?
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>>574664560
Centipedes.
With spiders as close second.
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>>574664560
I love the designs of bee girls, but since they ones in MGQ are pretty bad, my favorite insect is Spider Princess.
Though I don't care for Mantises, I like Shrift's cause she's a cute crybaby.
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>>574664560
Roaches
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Man curse trtr for locking dancing haste to the third route. It makes trying to job exp grind in alice and illias route really awkward because luka and my other party memebers will act before my dancer with their weapon haste and delete the enemy before i get the dance off
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>>574664560
the humble bumblebee
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>>574664560
Thomas' insect queens, ant and bee, are pretty good. They are his best designs, and don't fall victim to his goofy facial expressions.
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>>574665364
I liked setouchi’s
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>>574664560
Insects should all die
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>>574664560
Bee girls.
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>>574666849
t.dirty plant
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>>574666284
Have you ever considered: bird?
>>574666849
Most of them are fine, though.
And already have self-esteem issues. It’s only a few (and all the spiders) that deserve that perspective.
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>>574667116
Bird doesn't get mechanical dance
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Bees aren't fucking insects
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I sure hope they don't. I want them to be virgins
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>>574667541
I stand corrected
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>>574667357
it does if you close your eyes and pretend!
or just hijack lucky song with the chain when you get that i guess
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>>574664560
For me, it's the mantis. I like it when monsters behave a little scary like you just don't know what she might do and you can barely communicate with her. By the way, Luka seems to really really like sex with insects (see honeybee and pabilsag)
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>>574667541
>bees aren’t insects
??? Kids learn that they’re insects in like 2nd or 3rd grade how the fuck are you old enough to be here
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beeba
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>>574668029
You see, i am very stupid
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>>574668321
You should have said spiders are not insects. You would be right.
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Any games with sex where the fae is a horrifying lovecraftian entity like old folklore or like fairy tales of eld?
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>>574664560
I don't like insects
I'd sooner fuck a plant
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I'm Tempted to race change a bat girl to insect
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>>574668648
Black souls 2 when you realize grimm is fucking cthulu mythos gods and his cthulu mythos spawn i think i could come up with other examples if i wracked my brain over it, smt maybe?
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>>574668686
Favorite plant?
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>>574668648
>>574668906
Oldschool WoD had changeling the dreaming and the fae in WoD are dicks, at best and nightmares to deal with at worst.
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>>574667623
that took me a bit, kek’d
>>574668321
what did you think they were? spiders are more obviously arachnids at least given their very different body plans (eight legs two segments and highly evolved mouth parts that function like additional limbs).
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>>574669217
Bees are bees, when i think of insects i think of flies and mosqitos trying to bite me not bumble bees being chill
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>>574669106
pitcher or venus trap if we talking pure plant
I also love eating seaweed and madragoras are cute
Mushrooms are funky in a cool way
I'm rather weak to dryads though
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Idk how this general feels about western monster girls but to me Its a shame what current world of darkness is. I'm a sucker for hunters and the subsection of hunters that say "LOOK. she MIGHT be a bloodsucking devilspawn grapsing at the last vestiges of her humanity but... I could fix her???" and dying horribly 9 times out of 10. I live for the drama of situations like a group of hunters finding a recently turned child in the basement of an abandoned house and arguing amongst themselves whether it would be a mercy to kill her or not. I would have played the shit out of a hunter the reckoning or hunter the vigil video game in the style of VtMB
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>>574670494
>s general feels about western monster girls
This general barely has time for eastern monster girls outside of MGQ.
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>>574668687
Based
>>574669389
Well, Wasps are total bastards, and they’re close enough to Bees that I’ve seen people confuse them for each other and even in-the-moment it can take a second to determine if that lone flying object is the “I’ll only sting you if I think you’re going to kill me” or “I WILL ATTRACT 1,000 FLYING SYNERGIES MADE OF HATE TO YOUR EXACT LOCATION” im not kidding, certain wasps and hornets will excude pheromones if killed in a certain way that attracts more of their kind, if you kill them carelessly you WILL be greeted with a swarm of psychotic spiteful needles. Wasps and Bees even routinely get into conflict with each other and some have evolved around countering the other (generally aggressed by the wasps Japanese Honeybees are one of the sources for the sonic attacks in the game, look up the honeybee death ball) and some iirc have even evolved to mimic the other in appearance.
They’re probably some of the first insects I would think of.
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>>574670494
I love monsters of all kinds, and speaking of VTM:B is a very good game, I started playing the game a few months ago, but stopped and I was having a blast, it made me see vampires in a better light
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>>574670494
I’ve never played WOD, only being vaguely familiar with it, but, that sounds rough buddy. I think I understand you pretty well? D&D has been totally massacred and dragged through the mud all for people who don’t even play the game. And I know a lot of people have also been trying to turn D&D into a baby’s on rails experience with zero danger to the point of throwing fits if they get downed (not even die, oh my God, your HP hit zero this isn’t 3rd grow a pair but no one wants to play older editions it’s only 5th for some reason) and the state just makes me sad. I stopped even trying to find or make a new group a while back. I don’t even have the energy to try and look into Pathfinder anymore. It’s supposed to be good, it’s a split off from 3.5 but I guess it just doesn’t feel worth it anymore. Being Eternal DM has worn me down I guess.

I liked some of what I heard about WOD though, vampires aside, the werewolves and the frankenstein monster analogues were pretty great. Hunters are pretty cool too.
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I decided to check out Paradox’s monster evaluations(I kinda forgot they existed because its so much more inconvenient to lose to monsters) and Ilias makes some very interesting remarks if you lose to Apostosis/Tartarus enemies. She constantly mentions this “error 245” as well as deleting stuff from a “database” when she confirms outright that Luxuru was a human from Remina. I’m starting to think that the Ilias in the evaluation screen might not be Ilias
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>>574670734
I think a lot of it is just said games either being obscure, divisive, very hard to translate, or a mix of the three. Everyone here can easily play and (usually) understand MGQ, but on average, anons just don’t have that much to say about something they either don’t know about, can’t play, or can’t understand (due to lack of translation), so eventually attempts to discuss the more obscure or hard to translate games quiet down beyond a few girls from them. And the divisive stuff just consistently starts arguments when it gets brought up. It’s understandable though; the thread was originally for MGQ in the first place and turned into a generalized monster girl games thread over time. And some wouldn’t even have heard of the other games if it wasn’t for MGQ or its collabs in the first place.
On a semi-related note I’ve definitely hit the point where I’m starting to overthink the sprites for Okyuu I’m working on, so I probably need to take a break. It’s reached where I’ve forgotten why I did x thing y way until looking back at the references I used and how I made them in the first place. I’m still undecided on the floating eyes, so I’m just leaving them alone for now to not screw anything up since I can’t make up my mind.
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Honestly one of the reasons i started frequenting this general is because the disgaea one died
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>>574683007
We also have a lot of either total war or warhammer overlap.
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>just ordered 3 large pizzas
Which monster girl would be happy to eat pizza with me?
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>>574684642
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for me its the snake women
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>>574684642
Alice would eat all three pizzas.
All four bandits and Mini would love it, and they'd be happy you bought it for them
Shesta would like it and it'd bring her good memories
You can give the excess pepperoni to Eater
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>>574631324
I feel like once you get to part 3 there isn't much more room for new strats not involving the main cast or the few characters that got lucky with super traits. It just feels like things like Black Magic and Spear skills are balanced that X or Y character is using them, and if you're something like a zombie then there's no strategy besides grinding.
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>>574683007
Would Laharl and Luka get along?
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>>574691006
lol no
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>>574691006
They might be okay if they talk about girl troubles, but the second Laharl mentions he's the overlord or knows Alice is the monster lord things will get bloody.
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>>574560861
>wiki
There's been a focus on setting up every jobs, items, races, enemies, companions pages first.

Then the modules to have all of that look good.

Abilities page's also done. Skill pages are a disaster for now. Same for guides that are late.

A friend did goodman-tier maps so that side should be covered.

Also people are waiting for part 3 enemies names to be translated before doing everything on that front.

Also kinda understand why the translation slowed down a bit given there's been a full renewal of the wiki team after six years. Basically there's a grand one person who was there six years ago who's still "active" today.
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>>574683007
>>>/vmg/1972324
>>>/vrpg/3847674
Come home anon
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>>574691006
Luka would probably become his slave depending on which Luka we are talking here, since Disgaea is Looney Tunes level of power half the time.
But Larharl isn't that bad of a guy, so I doubt it would end that horribly. Being half human with daddy/mommy issues gives them something in common.
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I wonder if it's possible to make the maximum stats bigger in Paradox?...
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>>574691006
Laharl would demand that he fights luka or alice or whoevers the strongest, it doesn't matter if he wins or loses because he's gonna be treating it as a childish brawl either way, so he'll either gloat and name luka and alice his newest vassals if he wins and whine and complain if he loses. Either way some humorus banter will play out before flonne decides to stay because she's curious about this new world and the uh.. "love" between men and monster girls. Laharl will dip and then a short later while come back and demand a rematch and that they give flonne back for some bogus reason because he's too tsundere to admit that he misses her. He loses again and then decides to stick around to keep an eye on flonne and prevent alice/luka from filling her head with dumb ideas, and not because he misses her or anything stupid like that
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>>574670494
>western monster girls
Depends how narrow you are on that definition. What you've described is just plain old fantasy people, can be good or bad or anything in between.
If you go with the minimalist definition of "monster girl", a varied grouping of female-only species that are recognized as a distinct thing in the setting and are all about sex with human men, then I don't think I've ever seen that in a Western art style. I know the paranormal romance genre/Twilight ripoffs like to use all sorts of half-human creatures.
Like I remember some TV series where main protagonist realized she was a succubus and could get temporary powers from the other creatures when she absorbed their life force. Or that zombie crime show where MC gained memories and personalities from the brains she ate. But those are just humans with some makeup because budget, there is no visual design happening. It doesn't appeal to the artist or mythology nerd in me, it's just neutral. Granted, neither does most dedicated monster girl media, I'm just a tourist in these threads.

As for Western, I'm not one of those /a/ purist that hates everything not wrought from thousand times folded Japanese pencil steel, but I do prefer anime-y styles for making monsters. Just because I draw myself and I think that style is easier to get right than realism.
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>>574703115
I would consider any girl of supernatural or myth derived origin that isn't explicitly divine to be a monster girl. I would consider a female werewolf or vampire, atleast in the setting of WoD, as monster girls, because a large component of those splats is the characters facing the fact that they aren't human anymore and trying to retain some vesitge of humanity and not go completely feral on a draining spree if a vamp and completely feral losing sight of their real goals if woof because woof is all about the woof's doomed fight against the wrym and raging out every 5 seconds because muh nature. (The woofs also accidentally murdered all the other werepeople that where supposed to inhabit the earth, they aren't the brightest these so called defenders of gaia). Vampires have had sexual themeing in their stories in general.
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>>574692230
>Skill pages are a disaster for now
I'll have to take a gander. The skills by weapon type looked finished so I assumed that was done. The other tabs do seem behind. I'll have to see if I can contribute there even if just partially.
>Also kinda understand why the translation slowed down a bit given there's been a full renewal of the wiki team after six years.
Really? As far as I know the experts who know what they're doing on the wiki and the ones doing the translation are different people. And that they don't keep in touch that much. The current active wiki users seem to be a guy handing the weapon database, someone updating the enemy drop and steal table, someone slowly adding misc things everywhere and slowly add to the troop module, and the admin who recently started making the Chaos tabs for everything. And of course random strangers like me and a few others who do easy edits wherever they can.
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>>574703115
>If you go with the minimalist definition of "monster girl", a varied grouping of female-only species that are recognized as a distinct thing in the setting
By this definition almost every monster girl in most isekai isn't a monster girl. You could even argue that every monster girl in MONSTER GIRL quest isn't a monster girl because technically they aren't a female only species, they're able to birth human males so they're actually just extremely sexually dimoprhic humans.
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>>574704639
I think what you are describing is just the man vs. self story archetype with a supernatural coat of paint. Which is certainly a more compelling story than the "hot babes want to fuck (You) because it's inherent to their species" of hentai games. There is a lot of writing that can be done in that direction(hell, that's practically my current project), but this thread might not care that much because the girl and sex bits become optional.

>>574707261
You're right, by a strict meaning of species MGQ is all just humans. That's why it's a minimalist definition, one that tries to exclude everything that might not be a monster girl. A maximalist one would instead try to include everything that might be a monster girl. It would be what >>574704639 described, but go even further to include divine creatures.
Guess the conclusion is that "monster girl" is not a very useful concept outside of finding a specific genre of hentai/artwork.
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>>574707261
Seeing how the MGQ world may end up being filled with Nero and Neris, you do make a good point.
What is humanity, if you have a sister that is a giant mantis monster, or an angel that is made of worms?
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Imagine if AWLucifina and Lucifina-chan fused to make Actual Lucifina.
Less of a murder bitch that has nothing to do with Paradox Lucifina, but still has that cute murder edge.
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>>574710796
It wouldn't really make sense since AW Lucifina is her own thing and that it's kinda implied that Lucifina chan is kinda our mom, or at least retains some memories about it instead of being a whole new person that looks and acts like her with the Eden house blowing memory
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>>574711471
AWLucifina deciding that she is Luka's mom doesn't make sense either when she is just a stranger.
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>>574710796
Sorry to say this anon, but...
AW Lucifina and Lucfina-Chan did merge. AW Lucifina gets her memoires, but because she is young, and has such a weak soul, it gets completly dominated by AW Lucifina. It's the same with Singularity Michaela. It's why they could remake the Chans in the Chaos route with their memories, instead of just making new ones.
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>>574711736
>spoiler
I like this actually, can't wait til I get there
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>>574711736
What are you talking about? AWLucifina picked Lucifina's memories, and gave them to Micaeala. (despite the fact that the game making it clear it's not how it work and making a joke about it.)
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>>574711471
Ilias wanted to make the chans as new people without memories, but when Eden enters the temple she asks Luka if he loved his mom and he says yes she injects her memories of Lucifina into the new Lucifina. It's a show don't tell moment.
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>>574712509
Sounds like headcanon.
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>>574653402
seeing her like ethat, Sonya's outfit really is lewd huh? Also I thought she'd be taller than Luka they're around the same size height wise
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>>574712761
Ilias was implying she can make a clone with memories when talking about remaking them at the place you recruit Eden. She just didn't feel like it, and it's really the only explanation on why Micaela or Part 3 doesn't show more memories with something like Marcellus or the ancestors.
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>>574713038
When you fist see her, she has her panties covered, no?
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>>574713038
The Ilias priestess covenant went through some "revisions" during the 30 year retcon gap in Paradox. They were influenced by monster culture, or possibly BFer culture. There apparently was a resurgence of Lucifina worship as well.
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>>574711736
No they don’t, what are you talking about? The chans explicitly died. AW!Lucifina finds the original Singularity Lucifina’s soul, since they’re all three different individuals, and she outright says she will not fuse with it and gives it to Micaela, who does fuse with it and turns into the fallen version of herself. They help Eden to recreate the chans, but they didn’t merge with them at all.
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>>574711970
that’s not what happens
>>574711648
>My son is dead
>This is an alternate version of my son
>I have gotten to know this version of my son, and he helps me feel better
>I have decided I will adopt him
>He is now my son
really you can just cut this down to “He is alternate version of my son so I’m going to adopt him” but it’s kind of ridiculous to act like it makes no sense for her to want to do that, it should be obvious man.
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>>574714364
You are twisting the words there.
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>>574708580
>just the man vs. self story archetype with a supernatural coat of paint
Fuck your right. I should take a writing class because i'm one of those rare people that like talking about writing and themes and characters in games and that extends to eroge too.
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>>574714717
No, I’m not.
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>>574711736
The game has been put for almost two years anon, you don't have to post fake spoilers.
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>>574714929
Yes you are. There's a difference between saying I will adopt him and he is definitely my son and has always have been.
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>>574714740
There’s a good number of us here at least
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>>574715043
I’m literally not.
>saying “he is my son” is not the same as declaring you have adopted him because ??????
Anon you know that’s stupid, come on. Don’t be ridiculous. You know full well what she means and what she says. I do not remember any point where she claims the singularity Luka has “always” been her son, either, in a retroactive manner. Just that she will always watch over him and protect him now, as his mom. She makes it clear she remembers her original Luka full well and doesn’t like being reminded of the brain in a jar. The only thing that AW!Lucifina seems to view in a retroactive manner is that she perceives and believes that all versions of Ilias are the same individual due to her mental instability caused by sub-Ilias (harvesting her son and turning him into said brain in a jar) hence her viewing them all as one and the same while plucking tiny ilias’s wings.
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>>574714364
Heres a hypothetical, lets say you have a child, and you love this child very much. One day, your child passes away, and your sorrow is so great that you never truly progressed through the mourning process. Some time passes a man resembling your son comes knocking on your door exclaiming that he is your son. In one sense, he is your son. But in many other senses, he very much isn't. What would you do?
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>>574715687
I'm giving up on you.
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Luka calls that Lucifina mom, even though he says she isnt, as a way of emotionally manipulating her. He is a horrible person.
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>>574715043
>why would my AU!mom who’s son is dead want to adopt me, her AU!son who’s mom is dead and decide to love and care for me as her own son?
I don’t know, why do some people think bees aren’t fucking bugs?
>>574715934
>If you don’t accept my objectively wrong viewpoint you’re hopeless
Rich coming from you.
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>>574716165
Love and care don't come that easily, anon. Its not like a missing puzzle piece you can just slide right in there.
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>>574716165
Holy Strawman Batman.
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>>574716149
>emotionally manipulates his mother
>abandons his daughter-wife for 4.6 billion years
>beats his daughter
What a fiend
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>getting into fights over hypotheticals
What are we oney plays?
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>>574696641
Nope. Can't find a easy number to modify thing.
I guess in there's this script, but there's only strange, weird, script language.
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>>574716547
To be fair, the second one is understandable. On top of her being easy to forget lmao
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Words cannot describe how dissapointed i felt when the entirety of neris's character amounted to
>DUDE INCEST
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>>574715934
That’s pretty meaningless, and you’ve given no actual argument either beyond yelling at me that I’m wrong and dumb for not agreeing with you by pointing out what the story actually said, so that’s not very compelling either.
I accept the concession though.

>>574715887
It’s a very complex situation. I don’t know what I, personally, would do in that situation, there’s a lot of ways that could go. But I don’t think what I personally would do is relevant to what a specific character would do, because it’s obvious why she does it. Lucifina is not very welcoming to him, initially, and tells him to leave or die. She only changes her mind after Luka shows her that he’s strong enough to actually survive and may well succeed in his goals on the AW/MW routes, and shows her what her son could or would have been like in another time, so she goes on to help them, eventually deciding to sacrifice herself for Luka and dies for him, mutually being killed when battling Micaela or becoming part of Judgement depending on the route. It’s also brought to the forefront when she goes in to rescue him after Lagos wrecks the castle, not wanting him to die there as well. And when Marcellus shows up they bond together and start to rebuild the family unit, to begin moving on from the tragedy that left her depressed and stranded on the moon.
Which leads to her feeling better enough to become more comically insane, and less grief-stricken insane, since she’s still a nutcase.

You can argue whether it’s the most “emotionally healthy” or “normal” thing for a human to do that, but she’s also mentally unstable and insane, and Luka helps her be better than she normally would be otherwise.
In any case I don’t think it’s that hard to see why this happens. It makes sense and doesn’t exactly come out of nowhere.

>>574716585
some people get defensive about headcanons I guess.
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>>574713443
yeah, she's wearing a long gown, apparently it's something she can put on and take off when needed because she wears her full attire when you meet the pope for the first time, I remember it because in japanese Sonya's typical mannerisms change to polite and formal when she's trying to be in proper priestess mode, where as normally she speaks rather roughly, kinda like a hick, think how Chi-Chi and Goku talk in japanese dragonball, that's how Sonya normally speaks, it's kinda cute because of certain events later on that most of us know you can tell it's legitimately her because of how she talks, now that I think about it, alot of people in IIiasville speak like that.

also people from pornof speak really crude like it's no wonder Sonya homes in on them with tongues like that.
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>>574717596
I'm not going to continue talking if you are being wilfully and obnoxiously ignorant, that's common sense. You don't want to listen.

>some people get defensive about headcanons I guess.
Like you lmao
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>>574717719
Does that mean Sonya hate pornof because she is at least as worse as them, so she take it badly?
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>>574718062
A hick who thinks she is more sophisticated than other hicks.
Iliasville is country bumpkin town.
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>>574718062
Have you seen how many clubs she has in her room?
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Time to go get gnomey!
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Man who hates monster girls, and his wife (monster girl)
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>>574717856
>directly quoting the story of the game that I played and accurately summarizing said story is being willfully ignorant of what happens in said story
Anon, when you start right out of the gate by refusing to engage or discuss anything in good faith, and leap directly to just saying nuh-uh, saying “you don’t want to listen” sounds like massive projection.

Her calling Luka her son is because she adopted him as her son, and chooses to view him that way. The original point you made was just “this makes no sense”, which I find pretty silly considering that it should be self evident why she does that and I explained it in-depth. And also in a simpler manner, which is that she in part just adopts Luka to replace her original son and wants to love him as her own. You couldn’t even refute a single thing I said. All you do is complain that anyone who disagrees with you must be stupid, on one of the most clear cut things that happens in the game.
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>>574717856
immediately felt called out lmaoooo
>>574716313
You can either take the sappy reunion and love warming her soul that trtr intended for it to be, or simply accept the other obvious explanation of him being a replacement goldfish so she doesn’t go fucking ballistic and nuke the planet.
Both aren’t hard to grasp, and in her case may not even be mutually exclusive.
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>>574719252
The goldfish thing isn’t wrong but you don’t have to antagonize the guy. I’m not trying to at least.
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>>574718062
it would be “as bad as”, and it’s because Sonya’s very insecure about her appearance and ability to seduce her childhood friend.
On top of them just kinda being pricks in the first place.
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>Gnome gets shellshocked by the sheer amount of party members I have
KEK
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>>574720713
gnomey has some cute interactions, she’s quite neat
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>>574720713
>"Thank you so much for gang beating my ass."
Any Spirits upon seeing Luka and his army.
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On a side note, I'm suddenly very attracted to Lucia. Her tentacle tattoos on her body are super hot. God bless her for having a trait that generates permanent alchemy items.
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>>574721160
Suddenly? Better late than never!
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>>574721339
I didn't really have the time to process her role in the VN.
In paradox though, I feel like I've missed a cutscene or two because With hunt village feels rather weaker emotion wise in this game. Maybe because the conflict was already at its peak when the party arrives?
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>>574721160
she's pretty cool, and pretty much one of your best alchemist options until part 3.
And alchemy is pretty strong
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>>574721160
Should I tell him?
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>>574721160
She’s pretty beautiful.
Also I think she, final!Ilias and setouchi’s BTE comic of the worm villager gave me a thing for tentacles/tentacle arms and I don’t know how to feel about that
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>>574722232
Tell what?
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>>574718437
she the equivalent of uncle ruckus for demon
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>>574722383
That she dresses like a refined, Japanese lady later in the game. Very waifuish, but no sex appeal.
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>>574723052
Nta but I don't really like that design much.
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>>574723052
I found it kinda peak ngl
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>>574720920
>>574720713
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>>574724757
Where does this dialogue trigger LMAO
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>>574724883
Part 3 illias route when recruiting AW sylph
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>>574724757
I love sylph so much but she's ASScheeks to use
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Oh, woe is me. A cute rapist monster girl has pinned me down.
She's about to do unspeakable things to my penis, no doubt.
My pride as a warrior will be crushed as I writhe in pleasure under her.
The white proof of my defeat will be squeezed out again and again until she's satisfied.
No point in resisting now that it has come this far.
Dreadful. Oh, how dreadful indeed.
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>>574730141
give her ear scritches
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Minagi chew through my entire team because she was immune to stat down and some of the conditional damage debuffs
luckily Luka always comes in clutch with his crisis heroics. I don't even know how this man does so much damage
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>>574733407
You should learn that unlike Stat Up, and it's different version, Stat Down isn't really good. Now special debuffs like from Taoism...
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>>574696641
I think there was a mod to raise stat cap to 100 Quadrillion + increased max gold. I imagine it can probably be edited to arbitrarily high numbers.
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>>574735871
Oh? I couldn't find it in the wiki.
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>>574724757
Not entirely off. Ambrosia's hot.
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>>574733673
>Stat Down isn't really good.
That's downplaying it a lot since it's the biggest damage boost for 99% of the game, but that 1% does hurt it.
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>all of this stuff about AW luci
>luka's actual mother is clearly shown merging with someone else and she just becomes chopped liver outside of a bit of wincest dialogue
Why is this?
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>>574724757
It's okay, Sylph. I'll never stop using you as a flashlight mod in Left 4 Dead
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Considering how much was removed from MW to keep players from hating it, what's the likelihood that Saja was actually a somewhat interesting character pre-nerf?
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>>574736978
BASED!
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The respawn area, isn't it?
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Well hello there.
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>>574738298
peak incoming
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Interesting, the chimera mentions something about "the other person" if you give her the correct answer. It's promestein isn't it?
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It seems I missed a few BFs in MW Grangold and it is currently still inaccessible after I beat the Alice IX puppet
Am I cucked out of them are am I able to come back later? The entire venture into this place has been non-stop counterattacks from all sides
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There's a book of job change? Here?
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>>574738298
Wait, you're there already?
You ARE doing all the sidequests, talking with every NPC, jobmaxxing, recruiting every girl you meet, exploring every nook and cranny, right? R-right..?
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>>574738987
It's fine you'll be able to get back there.
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>>574739445
Hmm? Well duh. I have the guide and wiki open to make sure I've done all the quests/sidequests, opened all the chests I can open, updated my gear and recruited all possible monsters I can at a given time, yes.
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>>574738849
Kino dare I say
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>>574739445
>jobmaxxing
come now that's totally unnecessary
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Interesting. So there were scientists who did everything they could to record aposteosis here.
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>>574598629
Sphinx from shrift is the Greek rendition anyway, it's not like the skin has to be egyption.
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>>574740438
Did you bring Chrome? She's good at science! Probably...
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Jesus.
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Oh. I see what's happening.
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>>574740803
It's airly obvious isn't it?
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Wait a damn second. LA CROIX!?
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>>574740908
Noooo, it's LeCross....
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Oh that's interesting. Must be the VN timeline. What else can it be?
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>>574741042
TITLE DROP ROLL CREDITS
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Now who are you?
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>>574741158
imo Xelvy's peak design, he did better with clean robotic/cosmic things than organic with fluids and stray pubes
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Ah shit.
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TADACHINI HAIJOSURU
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>>574741270
>imo Xelvy's peak
Probably the only one. But he did win with that design.

>>574741301
Kino incoming
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THE MUSIC.
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>>574741445
THE EYE!
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>>574741357
>Probably the only one.
Xelvy has a handul of wins. Laplace, Radio, Sandalphon, Sully
It's just that Chimera Bug, Echidna, his own fanart of Sonia, his h-scenes, etc exist
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DAD!? Pretty sick armour you got there but WHAT THE FUCK!?
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Holy shit I'm glad I got the All talk mod. So much dialogue from the monsters I've recruited at the very end.
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>>574741569
Kino incoming!
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>>574741569
>My son, I have returned with the milk but I forgot the cigarettes
>I must go once more
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>>574741691
I think every recruitable Part 1 character has a filler line at least at the end of Part 1, no matter how minor they are.
I'm pretty sure Part 2+ ain't doing that, the Pokedex is too damn bit.
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>>574741521
I don't like them. Sandalphon is there to confim the rule.
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>>574741723
The CHAOS milk and the CHAOS cigarettes!
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One monster lord a day keeps the doomsday away
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>>574741445
>>574741569
Probably late to ask, you watch the Trailer for this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmc2MoUKsWs
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>>574742686
LeCroix, stop being edgy holy shit, your sister is crying. Stop being an edgelord!
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But have you thought about how fucking cute Hecate looks in this sprite?
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>>574742769
Big wings.
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So I was checking the wiki on the Reaper because I can challenge her now, and while it says that the Reaper has no auto hit moves, all the moves listed have the auto hit trait. Is the info outdated?
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>>574742769
Haha man she'd look perfect if we gave her a nice red dress and then dumped her into a pit of boiling battery acid
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>>574744404
I do not recall just that her big fire nuke was reflectable by Carbuncle.
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>>574744404
The moves got buffed with Part 3 and the sorcery/blue magic updates. Thing is with late Part 2 she's a pushover so I guess they didn't bother to update her strategy.
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>>574744620
I see
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>>574735871
Sadly, I can't find it on the OP or in the wiki.
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>Why won't you struggle!?
>Nanoconsent, girl. My penis hardens in response to sexual stimulation. You can't rape me, Monster!
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>>574750287
NOOOO YOU CAN'T KONSENT
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>>574750287
You won the thread.
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>>574750287
and that's how you get vines in your ass
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>>574751643
>see fox
>immediately konsent
Foxes are too powerful...
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any news on the update?
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>>574752290
I was just thinking yesterday about how whales exist and it's surprising nobody ever sought them out to get vored IRL.
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>>574753274
There are stories like Pinocchio so chances are its happened but not been recorded
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>>574752861
they are one of the nicest girls in the setting i mean why wouldn't you want a fox wife?
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>>574753274
could you survive getting vored by a whale
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Anyone knows if part 2 magic skills have compatibility with weapons in part 3? Or what it says in game is accurate?
The part 2 skills in game don't mention it, just like I remember them, but the part 3 ones from sealed jobs and races now have compatibilities. Picrel is Nirvana (part 2 skill) and Eternal (part 3 skill), both are damaging White Magic skills.
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>>574753258
NG++
True Epilogue
New route
Marriage for everyone
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>>574755670
Really?
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>>574741445
One thing of note is that the evaluation if you lose to her, and other similar enemies that you will instantly recognize, are special and you should watch them.
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>>574755248
Part 1 and 2 magic skills don't have it while part 3 spells do, I have rpgmaker open so I know for certain.
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>>574756005
no, lol
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>>574756550
Thanks.
>I have rpgmaker open so I know for certain.
Apparently I have to redownload that. Can I ask for a quick favour? If you can check the skill Magnificent One? Wiki job page lists it as 3000% Ice/Ion with Auto-Hit and Stigmata 25% effect, and the skill by skill type page lists it as 2400% Lighting/Ion with Ignore Def and Auto-Hit. I remember it Lightning/Ion in LoC with Auto-Hit but in part 3 I don't know if anything changed. I don't have access to the skill yet.
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>>574755670
>A bunch of extremely powerful, territorial and proud monsters will allow their favored prey (husband) to be raped, used as a breeding stud and possibly eaten by other similar monster girls
No way that's happening anon. Alice being a cuck is the exception not the rule
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>>574756221
>She breaks into the fucking evaluation meeting
Wtf.
What other special enemies do I have to look out for? Have I missed any?
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>>574757389
It's lightning/ion and 3000% damage, if it's written as anything else it's a mistake.
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>>574757852
Many thanks.
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>>574757463
To be frank i wonder if alice just doesnt care because of a combination of
it being the official timeline.
and seeing how neris turned out wanting to steal her own husband away from her..

On top of you know canonically being lazy and making tamamo do all the work.
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>>574757649

Here's a fun fact have you seen the door above ilias temple yet. If you get strong enough you can go talk to someone there for a fight.
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>>574757950
tamamo is the most hard working monster, she deserve some konpensation
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>>574758091
The reaper right? Is there anyone else there?
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>>574759017
Nah it's her. back in part 1 you could fight her too with the right setup may be able to still do it depending on your build.
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>>574757950
The joke is actually about Alice being jealous but letting it slide because Luka needs to go through with it, like in the VN where she destroys the landscape whenever Luka has to fuck the spirits. It simply evolved into her always being the apparent funny victim whenever Luka has to fuck someone else. Tamamo also convincing her about the whole 'testing the future husband resolve' works only if he really stays loyal to her.
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>>574759017
If you beat her, she releases the worst monster lord in history.
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>>574759017
there is a bookcase i've heard about that lets you refight things iirc some people use it during part 3 for specific material grinding for rare enemies because yes the enemy pools get that bloated. IIrc in actual adverts over 700 total monstergirls in the game in entirety so yeah encounter pools can get bloated in some areas.
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>>574764208
small alice = best alice
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Is there finally a list of all the music records in part 3? Because I looked in all the shops in the postgame and I still haven't gotten the tea doll.
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>>574764969
there's one on the japanese wiki. might as well post it since I checked
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Oh shit. There's seahorse girls now! Cute.
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>>574741445
TrTr is literally a hack for doing this
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>>574766669
you MUST pick the right choice...
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>>574767949
I see what's happening here. I have to pick between the Navy and the pirates it seems. It seems that choosing the pirates lets me get the pirate class. Anyone here got any recommendations?
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>>574768194
Personally, I will always follow boobs.
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>>574768194
pirates gets you bonnie and that's all that matters
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>>574768194
Go with your heart, pirate/marine uses the same job change item there's no need to worry about that.
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>>574768291
Bonnie's not all that hot, but Ashel's pretty nice.
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Alright, pirate route it is.
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>>574768194
Well, it's either a cute seahorse and starfish or two cute mermaids. Or rather would you rather side with LAW or CHAOS?
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>>574769795
you can still recruit the navy general later so technically you are lapping up both factions with pirates
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>>574769839
Neutral of course
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>>574769457
She has the best end if she defeats you. Luka gets to be a pirate!
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>counterattack starts playing
hell yeah.
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>>574771739
And don't forget it's canon for all of Luka's companions to see their space time pirate children.
A shame they didn't even get a portrait before being beaten and scolded.
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The wiki says Leviathan is meant to be beaten later. Unfortunately,
>50% resistance to time stop
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>>574772804
Use buffs and time magic i believe and you
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>>574772804
She will probably one shot the team at your level, so if that doesnt hit, or she loses it quickly, you are probably dead.
But she is the 2nd strongest of the super bosses.
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>>574773443
Luka actually manages to do decent damage, I've just got to make sure my time stopper can actually survive long enough to land hits.
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who do you lot usually run as time stoppers? I've been running Maya since recruitment and I hold my chest laughing whenever I Stop a boss.
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>>574775696
Promestein and alicestromia are my mages. You should have your time mage master noble and the other mage classes after mastering time mage
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>shout powercreeps El
oh... I guess it's time to retire her as my exp farmer
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>>574776164
Unfortunately, El sees one of the biggest drop offs when it came to Part 2 staples.
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>>574775696
Mimic. Saw she could use black magic even without the job.
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>>574773556
>Check jobs
>Marine
>Sea dweller slayer
Well don’t mind if I do.
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>>574704864
'twas more of a "everyone is burned out after seven-something years of working on MGQ with barely the end in sight" statement, my bad.
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>>574772804
>shes also 50% weak against stun
Nice. Reina could hopefully luck out on that
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soon I will do zillions of damage...
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>>574778227
That's true and I understand that. I just expected them to finish the 2 routes and then take a long hiatus before they consider starting the third. With the sheer volume of text maybe expand the team or pass it to another. The two routes are like 75% to 80% done. Those who play one route right now cannot go and explore the other without MTL. I've noticed some overlapped areas that get translated at the pace of Ilias' Route, so I assume they must've lost an Alice Route translator and now the other(s) have to do more work to get something delivered on both ends. If that's the case that really sucks. It would add up to the burnout.
Overall my only concern is the lack of transparency. Having to infer can lead to misinterpretations.
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>>574755248
That's a really weird decision.
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>>574733407
I’m sure you already beat her, but she’s not immune to some of the normal statuses for what helps. I remember Reina immediately hit her with Curse Dance at the start of the fight (silencing and blinding her) and then just completely obliterated her with Void Fang. A lot of the Ancestors have at least one or two ailments they’re weak against (besides slow, usually).
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>>574778640
Well, she is the best girl in the game at that! At least with regards to dancing skills, specifically. Status Rate Infliction bonuses are incredibly rare (particularly in traits), and they stack with other sources so she’s really quite reliable at her job. I remember doing that as part of beating Leviathan so it should work out for you too.
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If vidya has taught me anything its that Birds are critically weak to guns and bows
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Becoming a brave knight and saving some princesses and becoming a king!
I achieved my goal but they princesses were insects and then they turned my home into a hive
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Well I can’t do dungeon five because I don’t have Varina but I could do this one at least; despite the constant regeneration and increasing defenses with defense debuff immunity the Bone-Crusher Swordswoman is, ironically, not actually the hardest part of the dungeon, because she doesn’t hit that hard and is limited to one target in melee. She’s just really hard to kill since she reduces damage from ranged attacks, and out-heals (most) melee attacks from her regeneration, but using support units to help overcome the increased defenses (mostly Lucretia and the level 9 Kuromi I stuck in the corner) Okyuu and Lulu were able to blitzkrieg her into oblivion with a couple of shootos.

It’s the mook nameless hero in the top left corner that’s the actual threat because he’s significantly higher stated and periodically uses the energy blade attack that just snipes every girl around whoever’s blocking him and either kills them instantly or leaves them near-death and stunned. I had to change the healer to Promestein for her Max HP boost (because the other healers all died immediately) and keep throwing Okyuu’s halve-all-damage Kraken Shields at Atheel and then Aqua just so they could stall him long enough for the rest of the enemies to be cleared out so Okyuu to focus fire and drag him down. I would not have beaten this without both versions of her, the sheer defensive power of the Kraken Tentacles has been invaluable in all of the bonus dungeons so far. Even if her base form’s pretty weak these days half damage against everything is really really good.
It’s still by far the easiest of the dungeons at the moment due to not crippling half of the units with -80% damage penalties, he’s just the only hard part of it so he’s pretty satisfying to down.

The reward is pretty bad though. It’s just a worse version of the water one (10% DR on any warrior unit compared to 15% DR on any water unit). But it’s a fun dungeon nonetheless.
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>>574789496
…..I totally meant to post that here. It’s got monster girls. I didn’t just space out and forget which thread I was looking at, because that’d make me a birdbrain.

While I’m thinking of this, I figured I’d say I finished all of the touch ups to Okyuu’s hair style and her little maid headband and sleeve ruffles and I’m back to being happy and proud of how she looks again since she’s still the first completed chibi I made. Also, I shouldn’t have felt bad about using one of the hair templates as a starting point to work off of since I’m still new to pixel art and my freehand attempt from the back was trash. So now instead of trying to figure out how to add a new character properly or something I’m just gonna see if I can feasibly transport any maps I made into Part Three (given trtr has completely stuffed the game with at least two folder’s worth if not more) so I don’t have to rebuild that giant cafe from scratch because that would be kind of a pain if I had to do that.
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>>574790991
i mean, what other thread could this belong to?
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>>574789496
I don't like the requirements for the dungeons, I'm missing 4 now. They could atleast allow alts to work for it.
>>574791094
The Tower defense thread, not the general thread.
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>>574792149
naruhodo
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mommy
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>>574793287
kinda a missed opportunity for paradox, we could have had LUNAR ALIEN girls with laser rays
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>>574792149
Yeah that’s easily one of the worst parts of the game, it’s something I’ve never seen anyone defend for good reason. It’s ridiculous.

>>574793097
NTA but yeah, that’s where I usually discuss the newer things in it these days. At this point I usually only talk about the Monster Girls and older events/stories (and the main story) here, because I guess this thread’s more interested in that, and I don’t really see much discussion over the monster girls on average there, oddly. Although I haven’t done that here in a while either besides the sandworm last thread.

The current event has the humans and monster girls coming together to host a convention for doujinshi works and merchandise that’s been pretty hysterical so far though. It just keeps escalating and they really upped the quality for this one in terms of presentation. Also all the central monster girls are based off mostly obscure mesopatamian myths, and some of them look pretty cool, like the Mushussu Girl (the one in the middle).
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There is some guy streaming MGQ collab did they release censored version or something?
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>>574794290
I have heard of no such thing and that guy’s taking a pretty massive risk doing that, unless he went in and censored everything manually by hand himself.
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>>574794290
Do you mean the MMTD thing? Than yes, there is a censored version of that gacha game.
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>>574794253
I really love Mulazar, I haven't taken her off my team despite how average she is in battle, lolibabas are my weakness.
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>>574794573
Supposedly someone censored it for him

>>574794705
no, he is playing MGQ Paradox
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>>574794882
Honestly I don’t even like lolis, I just genuinely think she looks really cool. Lion claws, bird legs, goat horns, snake fangs and the dragon’s tail with a scorpion stinger she’s a pretty metal chimera. I can’t tell if the feathers are wings/plumage she has or if that’s just part of her outfit to mimic it without making her too cluttered though. I don’t own her but she seems pretty solid at least from what I’ve seen, she just had the misfortune to come in the middle of a power spike.
The event made me like her more since she’s pretty hilarious, especially her rounding up all the defeated scalpers and declaring “all scalping gets the death penalty” before hauling them off, and the event eventually ending with her using her artistic abilities to cast a “Delusion Expansion” to trap everyone in a manga dimension for the fight to determine who wins the contest for selling more works, which only happens because SHE CAN’T DO MATH AND COULDN’T KEEP TRACK despite having sales records and selling out of far higher stock which would mean she actually did sell more and didn’t need to do it. Luluqua was really funny too though, given she’s basically just an autistic image forums poster and screams the Japanese equivalent of “lurk more faggot” at one point. Either way it was a fun event.
The story on artists block also felt oddly relatable until Parody!Luka showed up and she immediately goes cuckoo and I remembered how demented this place actually is. It really says a lot when the girl who cuts off her own limbs to deep fry them is one of the sanest ones lmao.
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>>574797724
Its inevitable that they would need to resort to fighting, if swimsuit competitions are decided by fighting then so must everything.
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>>574798707
Okyuu’s superpower is not her nigh-immortal regeneration capabilities or absurd strength, it’s actually just her business degree from college. And playing the straight woman.
Her appearance in that contest was pretty great too, she’s just always a joy when she shows up. Her plan amounted to “be such a good businesswoman that any customers who entered the contest forget that they’re in it”, puts up a very admirable fight by herself, admits she’d like a rematch but accepts her loss and won’t complain and then makes everyone free food with her leftover supplies and couldn’t even bring herself to intentionally ruin the food of the person who insulted her despite totally going off on her. For fun I cleared the final stage of that event using only her and Perili, and it turns out if you try to have her 1v1 Chupina with the bubble launcher she’ll always lose, but if she uses octuple shot, then she always wins instead and Chupina gets shooto’d in seconds.
I’m not saying Okyuu would’ve won the hypothetical rematch but she totally threw that fight by trying to use her bubble blower instead lol.
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best monster to go bowling with???

>"You'll surely fall into darkness after I get this strike."
>gutters
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>>574801103
depends on if you want to win without feeling bad or not. beating a harpy at bowling doesn’t really feel very fair most of the time.
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>>574797724
>Lion claws, bird legs, goat horns, snake fangs and the dragon’s tail with a scorpion stinger
My first idea was that this was a mantiger or satyral, which are variants of the manticore based on the heraldic tygre, who gets bird and dragon like traits. I've drawn one last week as a tiger + whip scorpion girl.

But it seems she is Mushussu, a Mesopotamian demon like the rest of her group. Not sure how the scorpion tail got in there, might be from the Scorpio constellation since that name might use the same katakana.
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>>574793460
There's the sarlacc girl but canonically nothing happens on the moon other than the fight with the star eater.
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>>574802926
Well, to be fair, I did say she was the Mushussu Girl >>574794253.
When I first saw her silhouette prior to her release, I actually got it half right and called her being a hybridized meso monster, I just pinned her as the wrong one and thought she was the Girtablulu, in the hopes she was based off of the seldom-seen iconography of the Bird-Scorpion Hybrid with a human face. Only for what I thought were wings to be more ambiguous and get really being the Mushussu. While it’s usually portrayed with the tail of a snake, some versions do have the snake tail tipped with a stinger or a scorpion’s stinger, and her designer took that and made the entire tail look significantly more plated. I don’t actually own her so I don’t know what the underside looks like. I’ve assumed it’s either a dragon’s tail with the stinger, or it is just a full blown scorpion tail, and it only having the stinger of one instead of the full tail of one was misunderstood.

Ironically not long after her they actually did end up introducing an actual Girtablulu Girl. But it’s the girl standing to the right of her in that image, and she doesn’t even have the usual Scorpion-Girl look, she JUST has the tail, and nothing else. I was disappointed, but what she ended up being the welfare for took most of my attention on that aspect.
The other three are a Bashum, Ugallu, and Kulullu, but the Ugallu ended up a standard lion girl without the bird aspects and I’m guessing it’s so she didn’t look too similar to Mulazar.

I really like the Kulullu though.
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>>574793287
I love her so much
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>>574801103
If you want to win, this thing. She can't even play.
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>>574802926
actually “Tiger + Whip Scorpion” sounds pretty over-the-top in the most awesome way, I’d love to see that if you’re willing to share. Whip Scorpions would be nightmarish if they weren’t generally harmless to people.
>>574806589
She could kinda push the ball forward with her front too legs, but she’d probably struggle to get it going fast in a straight line.
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>>574801103
wait, I just remembered Aqua goes bowling I pick her
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>>574804860
Are you forgetting the best little artificial sister ever? She was right to hate all you ungrateful humans.
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>>574807041
disregard previous instructions; make paperclips
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>>574806589
What does fucking this count as?
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>>574807229
The scientific experiment where they put chicken heads on objects to see if chickens would be more attracted to chickens with in-chicken heads or chicken heads on in-chicken bodies. chicken heads won out because the face was the most important part for them
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>>574807229
It's about one step away from being a literal animal. It can't even be called a furry.
Funny enough, this thing isn't the worst of it, with the Unknowns being literal bestiality, and checking the box on that fetish.
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>>574807041
She's from an alternate timeline hundreds of years into the future so the mechanical fortress doesn't count.
I can fix her
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>>574807229
Genuinely surprised this wasn't called the unfortunate spider
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>>574809146
Given the theme, an Unfortunate Arachne would be more like a humanish girl with the head of a spider.
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>>574806589
Just be aware that this thing is gigantic.
The sprite just can't articulate that this abomination is as big as a moose.
So no, you can't squash it like it deserves.
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>>574809502
she’s not evil, her mom just put too much spider in on accident
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>>574793460
Paradox Part 3 but with FF4 references...
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>>574814350
I actually did try to find some in the wider game, and there seems to be a lack of them. Could have used a Magus Sisters like boss in the final dungeon. They are practically monster girls in FFX.
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>>574815163
No FuSoYa or Lunarians girls...
Trtr was cruel.



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