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Previous Thread: >>574520192
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This thread is dedicated to Potential Man.
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Can we get a proper dps tier list once and for all
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does Zanthas box go by the same reroll rules as sigil synthesis
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Thanks for making the thread Bea themed!
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>Join Infi World
>Ready to parry
>Suddenly Io use paralyze
>Everyone except Io (including me) post the rosetta shock sticker
>2 of them left immediately
>I have to left too
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https://nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/resources/re/mechanics/overmasteries/#tier-1
according to this, you could roll 3 lines of stun power +20 if you win the lottery a few times with overmastery tier 1 rerolls. it also has +20% caps but who cares
>>574558380
that's not eustace
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>>574558384
the chink one was actually spot on despite it being chink
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>>574558384
No, because when you factor in real world uptime and moderate player skill, it's a muddy hazy mess besides the single outlier.
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>3 conflux runs just for centrums for terminus awakening
Can't imagine the shit you had to do pre ragnarok
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LET ME FEEL THE POWER THAT COULD RIP ME TO SHREEEEDS
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>>574558678
Ghandagozabros is this real?
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max gamma over lumen?
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>>574558380
>Fediel
>that short sleeve neck-and-shoulder part of her outfit
they're basically panties for pits, aren't they
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>>574558678
charlotta up 1
fraux and rosetta up 1 just for insane link times
swap tweyen and ghanda
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>>574558678
What does Ex even mean here
Gallanza that high too?
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>>574558745
iirc the play was fighting a golem in the sand area's story mode and doing restart from checkpoint after for centrums
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Im stuck at the 3 big faggots at the end of chaos++ how long is it gonna take to fix this
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>>574559020
Opening up that lobby
or just conflux bro
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>>574559020
Git gud at mechanics, transcend everything
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>>574558776
No, you just don't exist
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>>574558678
>rosetta and ferry on fraux tier
somehow I highly doubt this
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>go into new behemoth
>one player just getting ragdolled
Brother at least have potion hoarder, guts, and auto revive like us other shitters.
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>>574558678
whats wrong with djeeta
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>>574558678
>Ferry and Song same tier as...
>Beatrix/Sandalphon/Mag
This has to be a shitpost. Song is bottom 1.
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Do you think there will be more post launch playable characters or is this it?
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what
they doubled down on Ferry's jump spam instead of fixing her kit?
why?
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Bea bost for Bea bread!
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This guy just absolutely bodied the infinity world at 1 hp throughout most of the fight....
I checked and he has like 700 ghanda quests
He as running guts and revive on top of my mirror image spam, but still, I think he only procced one revive stack
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>>574559309
It's owarida
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>>574559292
She's full support
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Are you guys actually taking a tier list that has Seofon below Song seriously
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>>574559418
i literally fall to my knees anytime a ghanda enters my lobby, it basically just turns into his game and we're all his support
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Does AI Seigfried want the Perfect Striker or Slayer mastery tree?
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>>574559301
Dude that originally posted this said this is based on performance in infinity and Song has near 100% damage uptime
From what I've seen in parses she does pretty ok most of the time if she doesn't floortank
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hp down done by luce can i remove that by potent green?
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>>574558678
>zeta that high
she's literally fucking unplayable with how often bosses move around and disjoint their hitboxes
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>>574559309
I believe it to be over. See you in Relink 2.
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>>574559719
parry zeta is great
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>>574558678
>tier list
>S rank, FOUR fucking variations of A rank, and shit tier
Fucking fence sitting retard who prefaces every opinion with "anyone is viable."
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>>574559681
nope
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>>574559309
Playable siero is coming in 2 weeks
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>>574559972
>he doesn't know about grub tier lists
https://gbf.wiki/Character_Tier_List
If it's not a flat 10 it's trash
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>>574558678
All of the characters I like to play suck....
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>Infi world
>2 cards trigger
>Ready to summon Dragon and brrrrr
>Someone summoned earlier than me
>"Oh someone know how to play"
>He doesn't even kill the card, just cancel the summon immediately
>3 guys can't finish off the death while I'm dealing with Judgement
Not like this...
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I was lied to, Charlotta isn't braindead at all. I've died so many times plunging into a boss' attack.
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>>574559972
everyone is viable
a good bea clears mediocre players using fediel and the other top tiers
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>Relink 2
>released with fewer characters
>old characters will have the same moveset.
joewarida
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magic chain io is kinda boring bros
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>>574560285
if it doesn't take 10 years to release, I'll be happy to accept that.
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>>574559418
I want to learn him but I'd choke so hard while gitting gud at him
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>>574559912
nta but i cannot into this. Having to predict every single attack before you see it is way worse than just perfect guarding or dodging
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>>574560250
A good Bea would be a better Fediel. It's your game I just don't know why anyone would intentionally play suboptimally.
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The tier link by the chink is clearly a shitpost. Who the fuck places Seofon under Song???
Not to mention Ferry and Song on the same tier as Sandals and Fraux..
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Wait it's pronounced Sophon? I've been saying Say-oh-phon for years.
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>>574560347
I run it when I'm tilted out of dealing with everything that comes with concentrate build
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Is Chaos Furycane the most cancer fight in the expansion? This spastic fucker always seems to attract brainlets who choke at the final stretch after wasting 10+ minutes.
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>>574560531
larper
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>>574560531
it's pronounced siete
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I don't understand why anyone would not activate cheat engine to get optimal sigils and summons and infinite health and damage
It's the most effective way to play the game
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>>574560661
i use it for msp because i want to actually play the game instead of afk slimes
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>>574560661
You're shitposting but I agree. I want to play the game with the best my character can do within the games code. What kind of psycho is grinding hundreds of hours to level and gear each character individually?
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>>574560661
true!
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>>574560363
Just stack defenses while learning and slowly remove them for damage as you get better
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What is the fucking point of Two-Crowns strife am I just fucking stupid
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qrd on inf versa
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>>574560661
If you tie the best gear to fucking RNG I will hack in the best possible rolls for all my characters and will proudly display them on my team card while your faggot ass is still doing suboptimal damage 999 hours in. Also your a bitch for not responding and making a passive aggressive sarcastic post like a foid.
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I wish there was more proper info on this game and how builds translate into infinite fights.
I see all these "guides" that show off immortal/tanky builds and others that are more risky. But none of them show how the actual builds translate to fights. Am I cucking myself and my team if I use the pussy tank builds or is it like 5% less damage and kill time. This is the info I actually need regarding builds but none of the "guides" cover it...
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what the FUCK were they thinking when they designed Eugen's grenade path?
is this a fucking joke?
did they try this build at least once against a dragon? Eugen literally can't melee dragons because targeting is broken
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>>574560983
>Unironically playing bottom 1 Song
You have a bigger problem than that..
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Then make posts worth replying to instead of LARPing as an autistic SEAnoid.
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what's the best quest for fortitude crystals now
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>>574560998
funny, it's normally the cheaters doing subotimal damage because they're constantly kissing the floor since they're shit people
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>>574561251
Literally anything in chaos++
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>>574561067
How about you just watch videos on the fights if you want other players to pretty much figure everything out for you?
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>>574561251
See those chests in the town? open it
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>>574561067
stop reading guides and play the fucking game
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>>574560504
I don't think it's below, it's A but also a good support
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>>574560990
>Get hit to get darkflame
>Keep darkflame on
>Hit it til it dies
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>>574560773
what, you don't want to afk for ten hour straight running slimes to build up your roster? Think of the experience you're missing out on.
if I didn't have other things to do while this was running I'd be using cheat engine too
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>>574561251
i've been running survival of the fittest afk. 60ish crystals every four minutes. The four dragons is supposedly good because it gives crystals and MSP
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>>574561067
Using ascension rather than terminus was something like -12% DMG.

Honestly, just play with terminus and 199k HP. Grab steel nerves, stronghold, garrison. Get extra levels even if you want at the cost of a little bit of damage. You'll actually be tanky and you will do more damage than Ascension builds.

The funny thing also is that infinite fights are not that hard hitting. They're more like attrition fights and you only instantly die if you get hit by a highly telegraphed ultimate attack. Meanwhile if you go back to chaos++ and fight the post-game red golem, it'll one shot you with random jabs.
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>Concentration despawns after any cutscene, including Primal Burst
losing my goddamn mind bro what the fuck is this
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Timing Siegfried's attacks is so annoying so I have modded the game so all enemies die when I press X once. They would die after a bunch of annoying and time-wasting X-presses anyway so I am just skipping the grind to play the real game.
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Zeta or Fraux who is the better character

Be nice (for once) and tell me the truth

Don't screw me over into farming the wrong character
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>comparing modding in legal stats to outright cheating
Your pathetic. Not worth my time. You know youve won when the retard your arguing with develops schizophrenia and imagines an entitely dofferen logic thn what yo psted.
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my captain still fucking sucks
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>>574561637
Fraux
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>>574561637
Every character is viable.
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>bea thread
nice, also i finally beat the final boss on infinity with bea. it's a B rank clear but a win's a win and now i have finally become the granblue fantasy.
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>>574561637
Zeta is hotter
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>>574561752
but the tier list here >>574558678 said zeta is better

score attacks also place zeta higher deeps than fraux
>If you knew already why are you asking
I want to be sure
Is Fraux really better than Zeta
what am I missing
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>Been wondering how do I dodge the phase 2 starting trigger since I keep eating shit to the explosion
>I just have to step outside the circle
Beabros...
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>>574560990
STAY BLUE
STAY BLUEEE
STAY BLUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>574561182
The four breedable sluts...
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>>574561875
>playing shit-tier heros
Your ruining the game for everyne else retrad. Ruins are losed bcuz of u.
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>>574561251
I highly recommend getting your Fortitude Crystal L from either Incoming in chaos+ or Four Dragons of the Apocalypse in postgame chaos++. The former gives you grand refinium 1 and 2 which you will need dumb amounts of if you plan to build other characters, the latter gives you MSP, weapon mats and a chance at good summons. Both of these give 40+ Fort Ls per clear
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>>574561905
Do you think we have the guru of relink in here that knows everything better than even the best speedrunners of each character? only fraux I played with from here was a floor tanker
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>>574561875
BEA LOVE
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>>574561905
>>574549104
You can just try it and find it out yourself if you still want to be sure
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>>574561752
I don't know, I maxed out Fraux and her damage was a lot less spectacular than I thought it would be
The only time she churns out damage is with dead lands in link time with deal with the devil, but it's boring as heck to play because your gauge fills so slow. The skill spam one is more enjoyable and does alright damage but nothing amazing.
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>>574561502
>The funny thing also is that infinite fights are not that hard hitting. They're more like attrition fights and you only instantly die if you get hit by a highly telegraphed ultimate attack. Meanwhile if you go back to chaos++ and fight the post-game red golem, it'll one shot you with random jabs.
WTF is this true?
I've been fighting chaos++ luci and stuff to try and prepare for the infinite versions and was eating shit to these 37k power fights and discouraged to even try infinite for fear of being deleted
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>people taking time attacks seriously
Yeah bro look how much damage I can do on this static target that doesn't fight back totally organic representation of the character
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>>574562050
WHY IS SHE SO HOT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>574562024
nyes
you guys act like gods here all the time benchpressing infinity bubs with your little finger in sub 6 minutes while jerking it to ferry mmd porn
time to earn the ego
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>>574562205
link me the ferry mmd porn
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>>574562017
sorry i don't speak ESL, and you can just block bea players if you don't want us in your subsequent runs it's not that deep.
>>574562050
bea love!
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>>574561525
No?
I can run back to the circle after most cutscenes, a lot harder if you lose track of where it is though.
With some bosses like Versa it's impossible, otherwise just dash back (and hope you picked the right direction).
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>>574562350
try an SBA with conc online right now
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I know some of you anons play Charlotta please share your builds with me only the best will do
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>>574561875
>It's a B rank clear
No anon, its a Bea rank clear!
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>>574562516
>only the best will do
Drop the bad heor and play good characters ONLY. If your not playing Fediel, you ruin the game for others with suboptimal play.
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>>574562516
Everyone has more or less the same build endgame
Just add more survivability or utility to taste
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>>574561905
>what am I missing
the ability to make your own judgement
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>>574562645
You're worse than the guy you're trying to make fun of. Give me a Char build or fuck off.
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>>574562152
It's really telling that every time, there's always some retards who feel the need to point out this out instead of implicitly understanding the limited information that score attacks on dummies conveys and what it's meant to convey despite those limitations.
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>>574562205
Ferry doesn't have enough porn for me to be doing that 24/7

Noticed Fraux is unable to use any delayed moves in some lobbies
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hey I am dumber than Bea
wtf am I supposed to do during link time as Fediel
I still have to get one miasma claw in before going orb mode? does she really have nothing special in link time?
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>>574562534
yes anon i know, getting that bea rank clear was 100% on purpose of course.
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This thread should be a perfect example of why the jannies on /v shouldn't delete threads about new games.
>you have a general
And it's full of reddit tier smartasses and FAGGOTS who would rather gossip and stealth diss each other instead of answering simple questions or discussing the game. Fuck all of you. Most useless batch of retards on the whole site.
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>>574562873
You get to drop a double stack of shit on the floor thanks to faster skill cooldowns, but that's about it she gets nothing special
Still the fact that the enemy is standing still means you can dunk every one of your balls straight down on their head which ends up making you do more damage than most other characters in link time
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>>574563029
play the game nigger
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>>574563029
You sound like a faggot
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>>574563029
go back
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this general makes more sense when you realize 80% of the posters here are the exact same retards you get into shitflings with everyday on /gbvsg/
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>>574563029
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>>574562205
who hurts you, anon
did you fail a bubz and have no where to get angry?
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>build tanky
>get the clock buffs
>enter overbea mode
>ignore mechanics and face tank stuff while mashing Y like an ape
>somehow this is more fun than any character I have to use my brain
I AM BEAMAXXING
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LINK ME THE FUCKING FERRY MMDS
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>>574563029
who hurt you? no one is obligated to spoonfed you, especially with that attitude.
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>>574563379
>bealoser doesn't realize he does zero damage and requires his fediel to carry his ass through fights
damn son
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What is the point of defy infinity quests I've been grinding The World all day and every summon I've gotten is utter garbage, usually 14 of some trash trait and never a cap passive over 45%
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>>574563029
What the fuck are you on about
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>>574563494
We get it. You're a shitskin.
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>>574563029
>>you have a general
>And it's full of reddit tier smartasses and FAGGOTS who would rather gossip and stealth diss each other instead of answering simple questions or discussing the game. Fuck all of you. Most useless batch of retards on the whole site.
But enough about /gbfg/
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Any mod that disables the fade out on characters when looking at them from below?
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Am I bricked bros this is my main squad should I just kill myself
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>>574563517
the point is to have fun
if you don't enjoy grinding it then literally just don't, dumb nyagger
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>>574563517
Every single game cygames makes they love making you mindlessly grind its all they know how to do
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>>574563713
I am obviously having fun that's why I'm only fighting the fun one
do the unfun ones drop better loot?
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>>574563438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vw-pWBdv-8
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>>574563776
>>574563517
Uma is probably their worst example because you cant target farm anything for shit
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>>574563517
Sorry bro but if you don't enjoy grinding the same shit over and over with the only reward being that you get slightly faster at grinding don't play granblue
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>>574563707
>not AFK farming mats and MSP on three different computers
Your account is way beyond bricked, bro...
Nah, you're fine. Have fun on your way to M.Lvl 50 ^^
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What's gallanza's best mastery trait, Insight?
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>>574563796
Depends, do you think bubs and faa are less fun?
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>>574563707
you're fine sis, you can clear the entire game with anyone with no issue
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>Conflux is offline only
>can't even bring your rental character with you
Oh my fucking GOD this is gonna be a slog to beat
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>>574563707
cute squad ^_^
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>>574564034
The skill spam one iirc
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>>574564034
sad as it is, beyblade and X spam both kinda suck. He's just a skill spammer with a nuke every 10 skills
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>>574563842
But that's the actual "grind"!
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>>574563707
>those skins
I'm afraid its terminal
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Who are the best link timers now that Ghana has been nerfed out?
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>>574563517
>>574563713
>>574563796
doko
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>>574564193
>>574564205
Oh well at least its consistent
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>>574564114
conflux enemies will always be like half as tanky as real enemies, they get really squishy once you start ramping up your main and with 3 or more up to date characters it goes real fast
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>>574564324
Rosetta if anon wasn't lying
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can siete give full ougi to everyone in the party? we just did b2b CA in hexa
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>>574564324
rosetta basically spams plants that each do ghandagoza punches in link time
crux fraux basically does ghandagoza punches but in jjba format

they make base relink ghanda link time look like a sissy
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OK FINAL CHANCE BROS
DON'T SCREW ME OVER
WHICHEVER THE ANSWER IS I WILL SPEND THE WHOLE OF NEXT WEEK FARMING FOR
>Zeta
>Fraux
>Ferry
Who is the best dps (ease of use + actual fights)

LETS GO LETS GO LETS GO
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>keep seeing chink fediels with cheated sigils/summons
Jesus christ this character probably has the worst playerbase now.
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>>574564324
what's the muscleman even good for now if he can't even be a link time whore
wtf is cygames even doing
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>>574564478
Yes but only 1 time use
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>>574564658
Fraux. 70% of your damage just comes from making sure you channel your melee skill for 3 seconds when the boss chills out for a bit. The other 30% is superfluous and you can just button mash your way through it
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>>574564658
fraux have fun
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Which characters have the lowest skill floor to reach an acceptable damage level?
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>>574564324
Rosetta or Crux Fraux. Maybe Crux Gallanza too.
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>>574564780
>>574564783
What about this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/GranblueFantasyRelink/comments/1uy3qu7/fraux_is_super_weak/
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>>574564659
how can you tell if they're cheated in? maybe they got super lucky
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>>574564785
Fediel by a mile
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>>574564785
lancelot if you have turbo on your controller
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>>574564659
How do you know they have cheated sigils/summons? Is it absurd stuff you'd never be able to get in the actual game?
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>>574564785
The one you enjoy playing the most
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>>574564324
>>574564623
magic chain Io is just mashing skills on cooldown but shes trash outside of linktime
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>>574562492
Not a great example since I ended back in the circle after the sba, but it's still there.
When Bubz does his madara meteor or LOS ENDOS I usually get yanked out then I dash back to the circle just fine.
And yes I play Insight Io with 3rd perk unlocked.
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how much better is terminus vs ascension? the skills u can pick for terminus kinda sucks no? supp on ascension kinda goated
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>>574564868
>>574564931
I've seen multiple that have the crab sigil with an extra skill, along with stout heart sigils with an extra skill. Seen Stout Heart summons on a non Behemoth/Firewyrm and also 100% caps on non-infinity summons like a Wyrm summon.
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>>574564863
>Hello, everyone! Its been exactly 7 days since DLC and I want to complain and rant about Fraux generally.
stopped reading there
it's just some third worlder probably from SEA spouting bullshit
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>>574564979
i must be fucking up somewhere then, jeez
>>574564987
supp is better than all of these except for maybe Glass Cannon on AI
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>>574564863
>Reddit
disregard
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>>574564987
drain or the extra invuln on perfect dodge >>>>>>>>>
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>>574564785
faith in dragonform Id
you literally mash X then press skills off cooldown
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>>574564987
550 dmg cap vs 350 (380)
You still want support skills anyway so you're not gonna waste the terminus slot. The real downside is the hp cap
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>>574565143
Assuming you also play Insight, if you get yanked out before proccing her 2nd perk duration buff, maybe the circle just runs out.
Try it after doing one or two stargaze Vs on it.
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What's the song that plays on revenge of the ooze it's kind of sick
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>>574565486
Defend Order
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>>574565486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKQVEhlB_wM
It's from one of the ancient event
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>>574565486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd4Qc2_isXU
defense order
the worst fucking event type ever created for a mobile game that they ran one single time and never again
they kept GUILD WARS over defense order
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>>574565486
How good is confluence for upgrading materials?
It feels like I always need to run a quest still
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Is it impossible to make a build where Seofon doesn't start hiting 300%+ on his attacks? at this point I feel like the only way I could make this guy achieve full potential is just by wearing every single cap sigil in the game but then his survivability would just go to shit
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>>574565783
running quest is faster is all I can tell, unless you really missed out a lot of mats for 1 stage
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I AM THE DARK HUNTRESS
>is light element
Is Song stupid??
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>>574565981
Yes. Canonically.
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>>574565880
that's every character bro
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Several people want to fuck Bea here huh... unfortunately I'm the only one here BIG enough to satisfy her hunger
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>>574566374
Society Donut...
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>>574564979
Feels like from my experience SBA teleports you ~10m straight in the direction the enemy is facing and your circle just happened to be placed exactly where you'd land. SBA animation is normally just long enough for the circle to disappear so you were just lucky or actual genius
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>>574566374
dude has sprinkles and cherry jelly...
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>>574566374
Bea probably doesn't even know she has a vagina, she'd be pleased with any man who loves her
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>line enemies up to get slammed by the dark dragon summon's laser, knowing that it cannot reposition or rotate worth a shit
>activate summon
>get teleported somewhere else because it's too fat and retarded
I'll KILL YOU FKHR
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How do I prevent songniggers from spamming a bajillion debuffs and stealing mvp every match despite dealing negative dps and not contributing a single shit to actually killing the boss
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>>574567043
doing more damage
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>>574565981
She's hunting DARKness anon.
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I haven't seen a single Narmaya player since ER dropped does she fucking suck or something
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Bea is for...?
A) fugs
B) hugs
C) kisses
D) RIDING FREEEEEE
E) all of the above
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Stopped being retarded, my mods and wive's pantsu are back!
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>>574566723
>>574566873
>>574566873
>even her sword thinks she's a retard

>>574564979
In general is there a "best" Infinity fight to farm? I've beaten each, aside from Hexa 4 times now and just wondering.
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what do i do with bubs big red orb in the arena that blows you away?
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>>574567386
Where's the feethands?
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>>574567690
Run out of its range
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>>574558678
Is this as AI or something
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>>574567690
Run to the edge of the area. Easier if you have a gap closer move.
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>>574567298
peeps say she's boring now. I'm trying to pick her up
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>>574561525
I noticed the "bigger window to perfect time things during SBA chains" but that isnt inexistent during the primal burst cutscene, always drop my shit during it.
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its hard to figure out what to farm in what order. Echo summons from icewyrm and blackwyrm seem like no brainers but their fights take a while, so should I simply keep doing conflux? or struggle through the campaign until I can force maximum power out of my little shitter lady
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>too shit to do infinites
>have to do infinites to get the final level of my terminus weapon
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What's the reason hexa sometimes just randomly? fails
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>>574568001
Infinites truly aren't that hard anon, Lucy being the only one that's an annoying piece of shit because screen vomit. You'll be fine.
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>>574568001
Let's go, start a lobby.
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>>574563517
i grinding like 3000 behemoths because i liked the fight, not because i wanted WE+ or SupV+.
Same thing will happen with infi bubz, love this nigg.
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Im ready to embrace charlotta brain, do i just go with Essence?
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>>574564324
Saw an Id delete infinity Luci during time, dont play him so i cant really tell what moves he used.
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>>574568185
Why are Bubz and World so much more fun than Lucilius bros?
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>Everyone on the internet thinks Ferry and Tweyen are memes/useless waste of slots/mmd porn bait
>Try them
>They're bretty gud
??? What
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Any lobbies?
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>>574568475
Proof?
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>>574568475
You can clear with anyone anon if you are decent them. Only parsefags care about muh deeps and muh dummy in this game.
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>>574568392
Might be the Fist Bump Id. I've been wanting to try Crux Id in Infinity myself.
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>>574568256
Essence is probably the best if you're good, but I'm bad so I use Insight.
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>>574568424
They decided to reward perfect guarding with it punishing the World. Great decision and gets people wanting to step up and show off. Bubs is just a great easy to understand fight with a great character and great music.
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>>574564660
It was the only edge he had. Vas already had him beat in the "slow guy with a high damage charged attack" department but now he is just there awkwardly existing.
Tho, he still deals good stun damage, the motion value on his finisher seems to be so high that he can basically matches anyone else's stun skill but without the care of ever going into CD.
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>>574567390
The world explodes in two SBA chains if you can reliable perfect block him
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>>574568667
>Fewh
>Dump all skills dump all pet
>Jump and slam literal brainrot gameplay no execution required no chance for mistakes or errors
>Deal pretty gud deeps despite it all
You tell me.
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>>574568475
Song sucks in the context of autofarming missions because she pushes herself out of range of the AI targeting
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Teach me how to play Siete
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>>574568001
Dont worry, that anxiety will turn into rage as you will find out that pubs there are way worse than you.
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>>574569146
Always hold back
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>>574568185
>grinding like 3000 behemoths because i liked the fight
What the fuck I hate this nigger, how are you having fun with him?
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>>574558678
Ghandagoza is listed as "missing data" in this, so they're not actually saying he's dogshit they're just saying they don't know.
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>>574569442
what's there to hate? he's just highly aggressive.
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>>574569587
I dunno maybe you're a r*nged player but I need the enemies to sit still for a bit
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>>574569442
how can you hate him that dude's fun as fuck
perfect blocking charges and claw flurries, he's low on cutscene bullshit and his cutscene bullshit is fun to instant block, he's not another human-sized piece of shit that you can't read
I love behemoth he's so angry. I hope he gets a defy infinity quest
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>>574569146
Insight Siete

lvl10 Cascade
Max Quickcooldown
Stronghold
Steel Nerves
Drain
at least 170k HP

and just spam Avatar finishers, dodge obvious 1 hit kill moves, face tank and regen everything else.
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Post alt outfits you want for your mains.
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>>574569791
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>>574569752
I've never been able to perfect block against him even one time, does it do something interesting?
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>>574568001
just queue bro imo it's most fun before you get your finished terminus wep and no one is super geared since there's a big time pressure. No big deal if it fails anyways it's just a game and queue another one
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Bro please just give me the good one
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>>574569791
also bikini, but I don't expect bikinis in this game since they already censor designs
unfortunately this one wasn't even actually a skin in grub either and I am not a big fan of the glasses one
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>>574570113
How many Lucy's have you afk'd?
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>think I have my damage cap set well
>haven't hit the dummy in awhile
>go and hit the dummy
>320%
>460% on a crit
>literally no way for me to fit more damage cap in my build without turning into a glass cannon that dies instantly
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>>574569998
Its his gimmicks, his stun bar jumps up if you PB his charge. Outside of that, and when he "overheats" after doing the spinning claw attack, he is really hard to stun.
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Does rackam have a suicide skill?
Why are they shouting his name
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>>574570184
like 3-4 hours total at like 4-5 mins per run
gotten like 4 berserker echos but that one is the best so far and a bunch of other shit like Celestial Terra
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>>574570332
>320%
>460% on a crit
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>>574570332
As you maxout your character youll get closer to 100%, those final masteries are obscenely high
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>>574569791
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>>574570332
the fuck you mean on a Crit
You crit 100% of the time unless you are Bea brained
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>>574570441
Well it's also probably the supplemental damage adding in
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>>574570382
Yes, Collateral Damage.
If a Crux Rackam joins your game, you'll hear it constantly.
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>>574569791
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>>574570382
Yeah it's a reference to him getting blown up often in the GrandBlues comics.
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>>574570620
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>>574569791
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>>574569791
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>>574569791
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>Use my characters kit
>The kit has paralyze
>Paralyze is bad for some reason
>Everyone hates me

Why make the game and then punish players for playing it
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We are never getting swimsuits, I will drink my own cum if we do. That's how confident I am.
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>>574570839
why did they feel it was necessary to draw a 14 year old posing like this
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>>574569791
I'm honestly surprised she never got this one for GBVS/Rising.
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>>574571006
She was 11 at the time.
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>>574570936
dont they grow resistant with each use so the first one has to matter?
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>>574571006
Post THAT picture
You know which one, the wet one.
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>>574569791
i'd cum
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Are the Defy Infinity quests just the same fights with less time, or are they even more aids?
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>>574571170
grub has so many good ones, not sure which you mean.
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>>574571006
is this better?
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>>574571006
Pretty sure she was younger and the reason is obvious, they knew it was hot as fuck
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>>574571365
Yes.
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>>574571170
>the wet one
you got it boss
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Infinity quests are slowly eroding my faith that GBF players can read
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>>574558807
I've been thinking of going back to some gamma sigils on my sieg because I run his suicide style, my HP WILL go bellow a certain point at times and healing won't do much since I run FAT HP. Gamma can give me the free 30% and I can get the difference back with my daybreak stacks or something, it's better than not having lumen's 70% cap a lot of times due to taking damage for others or just getting clipped by random shit but idk yet.
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Why doesn't narumeia just go naked? Not like she cares if anyone sees her in her birthday suit
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I've been running skelly and dragons the whole day and still no Stout Heart. I am starting to lose hope.
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>fail a proud+ quest because of a floortanking narm
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>>574571501
Bubz is pretty easy to grind. Just had a gran with dispell just now removing blackflame debuff vs versa
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>damn I beat bubz i cant wait to transcend my weapon
>silver centrum 0/30
I haaaaate confluuuuuxxx
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>>574571501
You thought GBF players could read?
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>>574570839
God fucking damn should I play the gacha game
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>>574571854
you should not
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>>574571812
Welcome to the club, enjoy your stay
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>>574571854
absolutely not
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>>574571501
Read what?
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>>574571152
Yes, each paralysis and glaciate used after the first gives you less time with the boss stopped. It can also ruin Break phases because it immediately takes them out of Break, causing you to lose damage time since the boss no longer has to recover AND you lose whatever additional damage you would've gotten from the boss being in Break. It ends up being great when you know a boss is about to Bloodthirst and you need extra time to trigger a stun/Break.
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Io bros should I pick her up? She's got the most unique gameplay style in the game, does she feel fun to play?
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>>574571854
Just commission some animations, it's cheaper
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>>574570936
Unless you know exactly what you are doing, chances are you are just going to make the boss get angrier.
If you know when to proc the paralyze as the boss is about to do some stupid move then its a god send.
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>>574571854
The gacha is NOT worth playing.
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>>574571854
Gacha player here
no you shouldn't
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>>574571006
unlike now, the devs used to be really fucking cool
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>>574572621
Where can I send them feedback to make them cool again and get Ferry uspkirts?
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>>574572621
Is it true they 180'd on Fraux and took her from being for (you) to being in love with her best (female) friend?
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are you supposed to charge eustace's shotgun basics?
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>>574572769
No. It was obvious from the start she was really obsessed with someone else.
The irony is that some people deluded themselves in believing that her friend was an imaginary one.
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>>574572769
i dont know as much about fraux but they released a banner featuring character alts in a wedding/formal dress and she was one of them. in her fate episode she basically confesses to her female friend
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I'm just getting into the infinity quests and started using the DPS meter to see how my AI is doing. Eugen's damage seems low, are there any problems with his dot damage showing up? Also, how much does his -DEF buff add up to? Thinking about switching him out for Percival.

Do Percival's +ATK buff and Cag's buff stack? Or should you only use 1 or the other?
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>>574572769
I remember her story as her just being kind of nice to (you) and mostly dealing with her own shit but I didn't read the newer stuff
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>>574571819
Bubz and hexa aside since not dying/knocked off stage is not a real gimmick, I've seen 3 of 4 people trying to dodge quickening instead of perfect parry, grans and sandalphons dispelling black flame and people for some reason going for Id despite versa being in the arena, and people playing super passively after getting HP cut by luci until the HP cut vanishes. Last one sure I get you don't want to be a floor hugger but the fight rewards aggression too

>>574571832
Yes, I did the web-based gacha has a lot of text doesn't it?
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>>574572769
Characters having emotions and interests is great though, dunno how that'd make the devs less cool
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>>574572240
I like playing her, though the charged attack playstyle may not be for everyone. I like her big nukes though, and seeing a fully charged flowery seven actually move the boss' health bar is what I live for (which is why I also use that mastery path).
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>friend talks about how much he feels bad his bots are out dpsing him
>ask him how he knows
>the dps chart tells me
>you should uninstall it, all it does is make you feel bad
>awkward pause
I suppose I should have delivered it better.
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>>574572792
charged basic shots do like 3x the damage of the shitty baby level 1s and build way more gauge
you wanna charge them, and you wanna use quick charge and his charge speed personal sigil
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Butterfingers
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>>574572769
>>574572949
I'll never understand getting upset over an imaginary character not being into you. Absolute fucking craziness
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>>574573174
which sigils do you run?
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>>574573163
Gacha players don't want characters they want constant affirmation from cardboard cutouts
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>>574573157
>people trying to dodge quickening instead of perfect parry
i know i cant PB so i wont risk losing Link Time cause i failed to do the block and the Autorervive animation cucking me/us
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>>574572240
Not someone who mains Io but she's unique even among the ranged characters and max QCD magic circle is fun. Blast your spells, charge the stargazer and repeat the process as needed. She's a welcome break from melee characters and still feels impactful
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>>574573203
>friend tells me about a problem
>tell him to remove whatever points out his problem so it's easier for him to ignore his problem
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>>574573521
PB is a job for men (all male characters have higher def so they barely take damage from Quickening)
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>>574573354
This >>574417560 is currently my build, pretty strong and can take quite a beating, even on infinity most attacks aren't oneshots and I can keep charging flowery seven despite getting pummeled by small attacks.
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How would Fraux react if (You) asked her to lift a leg up so you could sniff her crotch
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>>574573521
I really don't recall quickening hitting hard enough to warrant instant death unless you stand in multiple zones I guess
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>>574573174
Is that modded? I don't remember the recolor being this hot.
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>>574573676
which skills?
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Lobby doko?
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HATE VULKAN BOLLA
HATE VULKAN BOLLA
HATE VULKAN BOLLA
HATE VULKAN BOLLA
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>>574573687
She'd lift her leg and promptly axe kick me but I am fast enough to get a sniff in before perishing
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>>574573798
as he gains stacks he will absolutely obliterate you, even through guard
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>>574573353
Nah its understandable to be upset a character got changed or rewritten because of different writers
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>>574573820
Yes, a mod converted from the pre-DLC game.
>>574573889
Fire, Flowery Seven, Concentration and Healing Wind. I use Healing Wind with the 2 mastery points that turn it into a shielding spell to build just that bit extra HP, but if don't need/want it you can use anything else in that slot.
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>>574573657
He's told me he just stops playing when he dies too much and just lets the bot full assist.
If there was personal drive or desire I'd have responded differently but he only plays with others when I make him play with me.
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>>574572949
Retard.
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Made a lobby, farming Infinity Bubz and Za Warudo for summons
ID: 57V7 71X5 V2JG F4KR
Password: Bubz
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>>574574325
You don't need a password if you join via ID
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>>574574474
Maybe I'm looking it up through the list, trying to find the host with the most 4chan sounding name, and enter the password from there.
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>>574574325
full?
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>>574574325
Bea here. Did the lobby explode, or is it just me?
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>>574574747
Just you
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>reaching 200% cap after maxing out all my transcendences
well shit what now
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So what's the big deal with stun power what's good about it
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>>574574914
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>>574574020
NTA and Legitimate question since when I was still using ascension weapons I was hp stacking a to hit 350-400k hp, is the extra 50% atk he gets enough to one-shot a 200k hp player? When people perfect guard him the first form doesn't usually last long enough for him to hit max power at 5 min so I've actually not seen it hit at max stacks.
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>>574575160
More stun power=faster full blue bar=faster link attack and boss mega attack interruption when required, like on the new luci at the start.
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>>574575160
more link attacks = more stun time = more skill spam = more DPS
If everyone in the party is rocking 280+ stun then the boss will have a lot of moments where they literally cannot do shit.
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>>574574026
She didn't.
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>>574575160
Always was good, just here wasnt space for it. Now that Master nodes add 40% cap per sigil and infinity bosses are big on stun checks, its the way to go.
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Still working through ER is there any reason to make the old ascension weapon or is it just old news
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its been 2 years, wheres the FAQ on how Cascade works on per character basis
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>>574575163
BeaBot did well. Hop on again
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what did he mean by this
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how do you fit both the Blue/special sigil trait and the Basic sigil trait onto a build?
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>>574575593
All weapons have new and huge Transcending collection masteries>>574575163
ds
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>>574574323
Delusional.
I remember vividly the first few discussions around Fraux. Most not-retarded people were directly calling her /u/-bait, and then some delusional people (You btw) started headcanoning about how every arca story had to be grimdark and sad so her friend must have been imaginary.
And then it turns out the friend wasn't imaginary and that was the end of your delusions and now you feel betrayed by the writing team for your retardation.
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>>574575770
ask your favorite AI model about noah's ark.
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>>574575593
The ascension weapon, when transcended will be your main weapon up to the end of the game. Though you wont be able to transcend it for the first little while of ER
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i really wanted to like fraux but her gameplay feels so shit
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At least Bea is for (you) and cutely spills spaghetti at romantic things with you....
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>>574575770
Racism check
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Okay anons, you (and my dick) have convinced me to max out Io next
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>>574576274
she's a whole grown-ass drinking-age adult woman and she's a fucking spaghettipockets dork about her crush on gran who is like 15 years old or something
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>>574576274
Cute!
>>574576635
CUTE!!
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100% skill summons are a thing?
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>>574576845
Yes but only on the named summons (Roland, bubs, etc.). Doesn't matter if you get them from proud or infinity.
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I sure hope grinding for 80-100% summons is worth it and don't just stop the game with no post release combat content...
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>>574577435
Don't worry we'll get super omega faa with so much shit on the screen you might as well turn off your monitor
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Can i do Ferry's hold Y thing or do i have to do her jump attack shit
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>>574577435
It needs content, no power creep.
Content that pushes away people from already staple builds, like Firm Stance/ Steady Focus already see value due to how much The World, Bubs and Luci abuse push mechanics. People might not take advantage of it but they could really more content in which the Burn/Poison/Blight masteries are no brainers.
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I still find it funny that one of the best ways to counter bubz is bubz
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>>574577808
Afaik Y spam is the meta style now but without pets
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What master trait are you guys running on Fraux? Crux seems nice, but you can still get damaged out of your big super skill. No idea how good the other two are with the debuffs or the flip kick buffs.
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>>574577719
>>574577435
I dont know why cygames is so opposed to adding statbloated monsters with some reward multipliers at the end of the game. A good example of this is MH frontier I think. At Rank 999 every quest had an Infinite version that buffed their stats up to endgame levels, and winning the quest would triple the rewards as well as give some unique mats. I could see this working fine in Relink. Give people a way to farm top tier summons and old materials at the same time
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https://youtu.be/Qvzhaz7Veoo?si=IzGaEJy5Jf0C4891
there are fags running glass cannon in YOUR lobbies
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how quick is it to set up an AFK eustace?
I have quickly run out of resources
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>>574575640
Yeah where the fuck is it
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Anyone running AI naru? I'm assuming crux naru is the way to go?
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How are people with level 30 master traits dying in maniac bahamut versa
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>>574578461
Just get his terminus up if you are at chaos++ and use a second borrow eustace
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>>574572769
No. Fraux was never a (You) bait character. She was always shipped with her friend, it's just we never knew who that friend was or that she was a woman.
Cygames does regularly just instantly pair off characters in their initial release so you can always know what to expect with them. That's not to say that they don't still bait people, though, like Fraux's bridal alt has her art marrying (You) even though that's not what actually happens in the fate episodes. An opposite example is Enyo's summer alt art where she and Athena are almost kissing even though that never happens and both of them hate each other with burning passion and not in the cute lesbian way.
You COULD make the argument they initially thought to glue Naru to Azusa similarly but I think they backed off that because they realized it would get them firebombed to ever make Naru not (You)sexual. Instead they made Azusa (You)sexual too.
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>fraux endgame build drops the one sigil that gives her a 20% cap up buff when she flip kicks a few times
I'm guessing it's because, despite being a buff, the 20% extra cap up is still not really a big boost in damage due to the 40000000% cap up you already have?
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farming luci is nice
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think I might've found a way you can potentially brick terminus weapons
>save a party set including a character equipped with an un-transcended terminus weapon
>transcend the terminus weapon
>load the party set
it removes all of its traits besides sigil booster. you can go into the menu to re-equip the traits, but it only lets you change slot 2, and you can't leave the menu without anything in slots 1 and 3. the only way to fix it AFAIK is to either have a loadout saved with the transcended terminus equipped before loading the set, or upgrade the weapon again.
If you upgrade the weapon all the way and do this without a backup you might actually just be fucked forever
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>>574578753
Yes, sigil slots are such a commodity that you dont really want to give it up for anything less than at least 70% dmg cap
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>>574578753
20% cap is not incredibly impactful for a sigil slot
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>>574578743
A character that they did flip on was Europa and Gabriel, specially Gabriel. They tried shipping those two initially and then flipped so hard that Europa is another of danchud's canon wives now, bridal alt and all.
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what if
>mirage munitions now explode if you try to remove them from a weapon
how cancerous did this game just become
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>>574578960
I've been AFKing it for about 5 hours now and plan to continue doing so for the rest of the day. If I don't get anything then fuck it.
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>>574579028
>>574579116
Figured as suck. Plus it's competing with 20% damage up which I assume is an after cap bonus.
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Either
>i'm the only one actively trying to parry quickenings and eating shit for it
Or
>someone else gets the parry while i whiff it and get downed and miss the link attack/time
>i'm also a zeta player
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Is Id's warpath good?
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>>574578753
yeah at some point you sacrifice shitty 20% dmg cap options for other stuff
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>>574579024
jesus christ
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>>574579024
That's kinda horrifying goddamn anon. I hope no one accidentally does that to themselves.
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>>574579024
I've had mastery traits not save when I saved a loadout, so when I load the load out it loads the old traits from.before I saved
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u can afk infinity?
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What's the best quest to farm fortitude crystals ? I don't have the 4 dragons chaos++ quest unlocked, just the chaos+ one
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>>574579540
only if your character is ungodly tanky and your cpu is incredibly powerful since Auto Assist is disabled
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I'm so bad at the lucifer fight bros it's insane how are you not supposed to go down 5-10 times every fight...?
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>>574579696
bring FoF + nimble 30
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>>574579696
You're meant to be able to do the proud one with your eyes closed before you do chaos
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>>574578743
the cooler and sexier narmaya is the chang for me
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bea is way too hot bros...
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>>574579851
Real and true
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>>574579696
You do have potion hoarder, guts, and autorevive if you're getting smacked around that much right? Come on though going down 10 times is a bit much.
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>>574579696
>FaaGGOT when he pulls out the swords and takes his sweet time swinging them

Elden ring muscle memory took a while to come back for this
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>>574579696
FoF + Firm Stance helps.
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>>574579272
Doing it as Zeta has been its own kind of rush personally. I was doing the Chaos++ fight earlier to get a feel for Intense Loops and there was a few times where I'd perfect guard it midair during loops. Triggered a Link Time from a perfect guard right as a pogo connected and danced on his stupid ass.
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>>574580056
>speed is 100% base on what he feels like today
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>>574578960
I wish babu had a drop like those flowers, I need his summon.
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>>574579851
I will get all draphs pregnant.
>but cygames said
Cygames also said astrals become breedable after eating a food their opinion is irrelevant
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>>574579972
I do bring all of that and don't worry I've never done it online my CPUs carry me every run
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>>574580475
Yeah but I wanna get Onoskelis pregnant with babies
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>>574579942
They look...too small?
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>>574580056
>tfw don't perfect dodge the slam down so I'm not invuln for the swing
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>>574580475
>>574580928
Forgot pic
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alright i guess
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even in chaos I still don't understand why pyet-a absorbs all the elements before the timer ends
also this fight still sucks being in bloodthirst 90% of the time
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>>574578187
Ive been saying this since the base game. Id prefer having to go against a Zero level fight for 50 griffin feathers in 10 minutes than to fight 10 Extreme Griffin for 5 feathers in 1 minute each (including downtime between repeats)
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I'm still upset that lyria doesn't respond to emotes like the other crew members do
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>>574581208
You're supposed to find a spot where they don't vanish and then max out zoom.
Despite that I hate how devs do this in most games now.
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bruh didnt know u can time out
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>>574581216
Probably Cygames getting even with everyone from old base game Proud who would stagger and kill him before he could do anything with cores. Total joke of a fight really.
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>>574581590
>I never miss
>Dead

Looks like he missed....
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>>574581590
>4 characters, 1 that actually deals damage
cygames where's the patch
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Bea is such a bad fucking character compared to every other single melee
Her damage sucks if you don't play golden clock and one mistake in that mastery trait sends you back to the no dps gulag
Brining her into hexa means she can't burst the first dragons for shit since she uses all of her cds to enter clock mode
Bosses who spend most of the time off field cuck her out of her only gimmick entirely and unlike percival or siegried she can't prepare her stacks since the clock starts ticking and the dmg mode falls off
Needs to invest into stout heart to even have a chance of actually doing dps worth shit and also build drain to outdo her own self inflicted damage while also doing close to no stun or SBA build up
Her only saving grace is being really fun to play and extremely sexy but god dam grabing other characters and doing double her dps with 2 buttons is very anoiyng
Also how can she not have invul frames during combo finishers? jesus atleast give her a parry during the start up
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>>574581590
>Bea
>Vane
>Song
I knew you could time out
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>>574581786
Bea does damage. Or at least she does the damage advertised on Barthold, making her better than some characters a whole tier above her in Barthold time attacks.
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What are we focusing this run, anons?
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>>574582149
yes we need buffs please
after playing sandalphon and seeing his wing meter pause during dodge phases I don't see why Beatrix can't get that same treatment
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>>574582404
shield build brother
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No one really talks about Wrightstones, is there a way i can farm for a proper stone with dmg cap or am i at the mercy of seiro?
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>>574581590
holy shit these hp downs
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>>574582404
why dont they tell u what you dont have
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>>574582674
you get 1 max wrightstone from any chaos++ quest, so eventually you get loads and loads of every combination
just play more or just afk farm some quest
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>>574582674
you have no agency when it comes to wrightstone farming
you basically just want 20 stun, 15 damage cap or supplementary, and 10 of something somewhat usable
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So what are some must have sigils combos I should synth up??
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>>574582674
Do not post her. Her voice still bothers me to this day.
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>>574582149
The only "buff" she needs to clock freeze when the boss is off field, she does fine damage in clock mode. It's a simple fix, but then again...it IS a clock and it wouldn't make much sense if time stopped. I've personally never timed out ever in quest. I was in a quest with two Bea's( myself included), a Song and a Narmaya against Infinity Lucy and we cleared it just fine with the other Bea getting MVP over the Narm who was the same level.
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>>574582189
the vane kept putting shield skill when we had to stun
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Where do I get Era cores it's currently unknown on my method of acquisition screen
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>>574582924
ANY chaos++? ill work with that i guess
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>>574582149
let's be real if bea's kit was skinned onto any other character she wouldn't see play
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>>574581590
LET ME FEEL THE POWER
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is full sending cog on a support build as a bot for infinity quests a good thing or should I still build some damage sigils into her?
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>>574583040
Progress
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>fighting the world
>
>timeshift started making a snapshot again
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>>574582947
Stun power main + damage cap or supplementary damage sub
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>saving summon loadouts saves the whole party line up
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uuh cygames?
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Any crazy yodarha build up yet i can copy?
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This is a 14 year old girl
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>>574579024
>cygames gacha spinoff has ways to brick your character
incredible
at least cygames is very consistent in what they bring to the table
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>>574584331
Peak fertility
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what in a build do you replace to fit the crab sigil?
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>>574578127
God I can't wait for skins
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>>574583452
i am not sure what you could possibly put on cog that isn’t damage sigils. she already maxes out her shields without any improved healing or whatever and the ai doesn’t need a lot of defenses since they will perfect dodge everything
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holy shit joomp ferry is insanely difficult to play

why didn't anyone warn me

I'm up to my eyeballs
>managing this shitty 12s buff that I MUST constantly refresh with pets
>ZERO gapclosers so I have to stick to the boss without any help somehow
>if you dodge midair during a joomp to survive, your already low dmg eats shit even further
>oh and the shitty 12s buff is still ticking
>have fun summoning pets, consuming pets, setting up all this bullshit just for 12s of buff window
jesus I see why no one plays her
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>>574584331
Out of 10!
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>>574584976
just play summoner ferry, all you do is hold y and occasionally throw out onslaught, you’re also insanely tanky so you can just poise through stuff. i’m pretty sure summoner ferry is also more useful since she deals more stun
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>>574583452
>>574584967
quick cooldown good on her? idk about cascade
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>>574585198
>summoner ferry
isn't that literally throwing levels of low dps
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my fucking save got corrupted and like a whole hour of recruiting eustace and crafting his terminus weapon got reset
what the fuck
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Yeah I'm duping this.
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>>574585669
How's that work?
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>>574585669
>Weak point stone
Litteral trash
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>>574585702
Cheats
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>>574585735
Top skill is never important for stones at endgame.
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>>574585484
steam cloud save has been fucky sometimes even since the base game, fails to sync
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>>574585882
nothing is important for lategame if you are cheating
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considering this dlc took 2 years to release i'm kinda disappointed by lack of new enemies
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>>574558678
lol yes gran/djeeta is by far the most honest character in the game you are playing the game on hard mode when you play them you better know how to dodge perfect block nothing is given to you for free
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>>574585669
Teach me to dupe things I don't care if its cheating
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What does Rising Nova do?
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>>574586038
buffs the buffs you get from the clock
honestly just a useless skill
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>>574575775
Get echo/WE summs
Then replace the echo/WE sigils with def/stun sigils
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I'm collecting data to get an idea of character usage rates (>>574558076)

>In the main menu -> co-op settings -> player list, the game will populate the 50 most recent players you've played with. Each player has a "last seen" section. Could you tally all the available "last seen" characters in that list and post the result?

Current sample size is 552, aiming for 1000. Please contribute!

Current rankings:

>Fediel — 15.58%
>Fraux — 9.78%
>Magielle — 6.88%
>Beatrix — 6.16%
>Cagliostro — 5.98%
>Tweyen — 5.62%
>Narmaya — 5.43%
>Charlotta — 4.35%
>Sandalphon — 4.17%
>Eustace — 3.62%
>Zeta — 3.26%
>Id — 3.08%
>Protag — 2.72%
>Vane — 2.54%
>Yodarha — 2.54%
>Siegfried — 2.36%
>Gallanza — 2.17%
>Io — 2.17%
>Percival — 1.81%
>Vaseraga — 1.81%
>Ferry — 1.63%
>Rackam — 1.63%
>Seofon — 1.27%
>Ghandagoza — 0.91%
>Lancelot — 0.91%
>Katalina — 0.72%
>Eugen — 0.54%
>Rosetta — 0.36%
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>>574584976
yeah she feels pretty ass when you're losing control of the fight but pretty good when you get a good cycle into SBA and link time. Getting uptime on her buff is not too bad though unless I shat the bed and my cds are really off
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>>574585969
Relink is such a funny case because it really seems like cygames feels like it's bothersome to keep this game going despite the median player enjoying this shit way more than normal GBF Korean MMO-like grind hell or the fighting game about 153 people play.
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>>574586414
so what has to change to make the bottom 4 more playable
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>>574586414
Holy people are sleeping on Vaseraga and Io.

Ferry will never not be sad
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>>574585969
lol all the time went into the new characters that's why we arent getting new ones
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>>574586592
make them fun to play
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>>574586414
Beato in the top 5!
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>>574585969
Still faster than grubble lmao
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Id dragonform pill is pretty unga bunga but deals surprising dps. Godmight is a clunky mess that rarely works in practice
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I'm tired of infinity zero. I just want to clear it once so I never havr to do this cancer again.
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Even if I could even get anywhere near as good as that Eustace player, I still don't think I'd be able to clear it. Buff neechan
https://files.catbox.moe/brja1f.mp4
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>>574567298
She's mid, also basically all her damage is in the essence tree because skill cooldowns are literally a fraction of what they are in the other styles, except it's extremely RNG and anti-fun.

People sometimes complain about how you basically just stay in freeflutter 90% of the time now, but you did that before too, now there's just no ki flux ritual after every finisher, but the insight tree adds it back in.
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>>574586592
Lancelot needs more range on his X attacks
and more damage on his finishers
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>>574582974
She was supposed to be a hag (as in a an actual hag) and was voiced with that concept art in mind.
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is there any benefits to doing ultimate story mode or can i just collect the crabs on easy n dip?
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>>574586917
insight sucks for the reason that it doesn't give as much for fluxing
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>>574586414
Is Fraux braindead or something? What makes her the second highest?
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>>574586592
they could play the quests once before releasing the game to make sure basic character functionality is working

Eugen's grenade master path is broken because you have to melee the enemies to detonate them but Eugen doesn't go into "melee mode" against large enemies

his poison path is just meme shit giving-up-on-life tier of dps that cannot be made up by the occasional DEF debuff

his sniper path invalidates all of this unique sigils and does garbage dps to boot so LMAO

Eugen is without any hyperbole actually unplayable right now
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>>574587094
With characters on Chaos++ there's no difference between doing easy or ultimate. You crush them the same.
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>>574586525
yeah it's pretty rough for a gacha company to make a real game instead of a png slot machine
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>>574586462
okay but why do I have to work 1000x as hard as a lancelot mashing Y to deal less damage than him
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>>574586592
>lancelot
buff his finishers and give him more range, his attacks whiff hugging the boss sometimes
>kat
her whole kit is just a janky loop, not sure what they could do because i haven't played her too much
>eugen
not a single one of his mastery paths does anything
>jk
the flower gimmick just feels like shit with how mobile bosses are
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>>574586592
Katalina's problem is a fundamental one, they just fucked up her kit from its foundation. She wants Ares up, that's great, but you can't really face tank like a Vane or Vaseraga, at least not as well, so you need to be evading or guarding. And then your flow gets all fucked if you aren't doing perfect defensive maneuvers and you usually have to start from scratch. It would be one thing if she was supremely good with her stand out, so it's a high risk/reward type thing, but she's just above average when Ares is out, and not good when it isn't. They really need to go back to the drawing board and just fix her entirely. Maybe make her more tanky in Ares form, but you don't get to have it out always, then up her usefulness when she doesn't have Ares meter.
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>>574587178
my mc is level 50
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>>574587128
In the sense it's unfun, sure, but it gives much more power for max butterflies. Unfun isn't the same as anti-fun though, which mostly comes from hitting you with skill seal at complete random.
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i wish cygames would make it so every Full Auto AI dodges into the enemy instead of just Eustace
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>>574587162
around 5% looks to be the normal popular pick amount and the numbers above that would be recency bias bonus, fediel would normally be around the other top 4 percentage if not for her ball exploit
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>>574587094
difficulty doesn't matter dunno about the dark crabs though
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It would actually be really fun to do the infinity challenges solo if there weren't a fucking time limit. It's not like it would be efficient anyways to do it by yourself, why not let people have fun?
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>>574588094
there's hard dps checks in every one though
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Glad to see more people starting to realize beato is le shito
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>>574587162
She's hot as fuck and satisfying to use.

Dunno about what playing her is like.
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>>574560391
so there's this thing called fun
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Come play Id dragonform with me if you just want to press left click with occasional skills
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what's the best ai team for solo'ing? i'm willing to grind whatever materials/weapons necessary to make them work
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fuck
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>>574588241
Her being hot is all ruined by her being a carpet muncher...shame..
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>>574588616
it's not terrible
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does anyone use the skill master zeta tree? which skills do you equip?
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>>574588616
Dude honestly I think it's fine.
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>>574588616
bretty gud anon
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>>574588536
Percival, Rosetta, Id are pretty strong imo
Io is ok, at least she casts constantly
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>>574588536
Percival, Sieg, Fraux/Cag
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>>574574325
ggs as always
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>>574574325
GGs bros
One day the funny bara jobber will drop a good summon, trust and believe...
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>>574574325
ggs ty for hosting. I hate it when Bubz keeps throwing his balls.
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>>574584331
is she not good? i dont think ive seen her in any online parties since ive started playing the DLC
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The Narmaya Experience
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>>574588781
>>574588929
>>574589101
my only usable warpath has autorevive so it's effectively useless for me
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>>574574325
GG guy
>>574589402
They really didn't need to make his shit aoe. It's bad enough his drills gimp your damage just for running after him when he runs off somewhere and touching them as they spawn
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>>574589313
Who you a Bea main anon?
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>>574589706
no I just love bea
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>>574589673
Looks like it's time to pay the little jew a few visits :)
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I like that they focused primarily on new humanoid fights. Feels like they took to heart what people found best in the base game.
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>>574588616
its purple so its great too
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>>574586414
>more Ghandagozas than Rosettas
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>crab hunting with Beato
>"Kani Kani~"
>"Kani Kani~"
>"Kani Kani~"
shes so cool...
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Why is Song's personality such a turnoff?
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Pregnant granblues!
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>>574590420
sob.jpg
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>>574590457
Carpet munchers tend to do that.
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when the world summons those 3 cards and absorbs the power of the ones you don't kill, is there a particular priority or order people like to do for it? any that are must-kill?
I've seen anything from people trying to kill what they can, to straight up ignoring them
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Do fights later on last long enough for Seofon's double ultimate skill to actually activate? all the fights I've been to in chaos++ so far end before the skill comes up so I never actually get to use it
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Why does Fraux sound like such a hag?
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>>574588717
Grub writing after 2021 is so bad and inconsistent that Fate episodes and Events from after that may as well be less canon than Seasonal lines from before.
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Why is Ferry smelly?
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>>574590420
>retard
>shouts almost all the time
>likes "kani"
https://youtu.be/erzedwZhJCs
Can't believe bea is the average vtuber.
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How does on build a big ass substitute tank sieg?
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>>574590690
IDIEALLY, in a perfect world in which no one gets hit, the scale is the pick, in that case the World literally gets nothing BUT just to be safe, always leave the bubbles alone. Its the less annoying them all.
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>bouncing between grinding Behemoths, Mr. Skeltal and 4 Dragons since I want Stout Heart for melee QoL all weekend
>still no Stout Heart
I'm tired boss...
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Who's your marry fuck kill, anons? Just pick any 3 women (sorry gay bros)
For me, it's fuck Zeta, marry Fraux, and kill Charlotta.
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Katsisters... how do we cope with our gal doing nothing but sometimes giving the party invulnerability?
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>>574588616
That's really good anon
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>>574591201
Ideally just spam sackhead skeleton. He drops behemoth summons and is the least obnoxious fight. The issue is behemoth is 1 out of 8 summons he can drop instead of 1/3 or 1/4 so you might go dozens of runs without a behemoth drop period.
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AAAIIIEEEEE
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>>574591223
fuck fediel
marry fediel
kill lilith because she is evil
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>>574589406
I think she's just too different and most people aren't pedophiles.
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>>574590878
Natural Erune musk
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>>574591298
I've been autoing him when I do other stuff and when I go to bed.
But I break it up when actively playing to preserve my sanity.
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>>574591351
welcome to the club
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Thank god the only summon i have left to get is spartan echo
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>>574591223
>fuck
JK
>marry
Katalina
>kill
Fediell
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>>574588616
That's actually pretty fucking great
Omedetou anon
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>>574591257
Stop running Light Wall and just use 4 offensive skills.
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kill anon
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>>574588717
Fictional lesbians are hot, I should commission Fraux X Ferry
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>>574591223
Fuck katalina
Marry katalina
Kill lucilius
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>>574591513
Oh no, am I infected by some kind of parasite if the smell arouses me?
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>>574591715
>Kill lucilius
Again?
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>>574588717
After the no crossbreeding debacle, it's hard to know what's canon or not.
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hello I don't play the gacha game can you give me the lore on this character
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Wyell...at least I got the skills I needed on them...
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>>574592018
Military organization fighting primal beasts and "the foe" that turns out to be hyper advanced drug addicted adeptus mechanicus living on the moon that have already found their god
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>>574590420
Who would have thought the most retarded character would filter the most people.
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>>574591869
I hate that faggot so yes
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Sorry those girls are mine
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>>574592063
Bro..
You can outsourse literally any sigil if you don't care about substats it always saves a slot. there's no point going for these specifically if the substats suck
Except stout heart cause that can't roll +
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>AFK'd Chaos++ Lucilius for 5 hours
>Best I've gotten is Berserk Echo - 50% Normal Damage Cap

Meh.
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>>574592063
I've run like 80 infinites and only have 1 with 100% and maybe 3 with 80%, all shit traits of course. Also been farming chaos++ afk. Feels unlucky, but maybe the lucky people just cheated it in
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>>574592651
Skill Damage*
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On summons is damage cap always the best thing to go for? Is there any reason why stun wouldn’t be also viable?
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>>574593049
100%+ cap is usually better than Stun but Stun is still acceptable if you don't want to keep farming
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All this farming for 100% feels pretty good pointless if we're already clearing Infinity enough times to even get them in the first place. Like why do for 100% drops with nothing to truly run them on if you're already comfortable enough to with say... Infinity Bubz to beat him 85 times?
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>>574593672
Pretty pointless*

We need something to actually have it matter somewhat. Hopefully they introduce something later.
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>>574593672
number go up
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>>574593672
The infinity equip bonuses also drop from the chaos++ raids which can be easily AFK'd. It's still gratuitous, granted.
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>>574593672
>but what happens after the grind
that's wen the grind begins
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>>574593672
Thats the whole point of the game
You farm to hit higher number to clear faster with multiple characters
If you are the kind of person that rushes to beat everything with 1 character and then uninstall since you beat the hardest boss then you are not really the audience for this game
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>>574591298
>1 out of 8
I only see 2 skellies and 2 Behemoths drop from the skelly. Am I completely blind or something?
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>>574593672
I like playing the game and will run with any excuse to do. Be it simply number go up or acting like I'm prepping for some future DLC. This is one of my favorite games made in years.
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>>574593672
im not really interested in running it 5000 times to get a single one with 100% cap up and a usable trait
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>>574593672
It's for the love of the hunt
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>>574594280
based and same
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does getting the slime in story maps give anything worth it or i skip them? theyre not even marked
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>>574586414
Here are mine:

Fediel - 8
Cagliostro - 6
Id - 3
Maglielle - 4
Sandalphon - 2
Seophon - 3
Tweyen - 4
Fraux - 2
Eustace - 1
Lancelot - 1
Percival - 2
Io - 1
Narmaya - 2
Captain - 1
Katalina - 1
Vane - 2
Zeta - 2
Ghandagoza - 1
Charlotta - 2

And a few people just didn't have data for some reason
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>>574594246
Nah it's just hyperbole, because behemoth feels like an especially low rate drop for some reason so you'll see the others drop dramatically more often.
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best style for beatrix? i desire to unga after playing enough fraux
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Went to 7-11 for water and some tea and I had to pay 6.73 and the cashier 6 7'd me and I told him that I'm nearing 40 and he said God damn
It's now time to play granblue fantasy relink endless ragnarok
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Now that I can free up my sigils from WE and cut down Supp damage to 1, I can play around with SBA gain more :}
Am I gonna feel the damage cap loss from not running a second flat HP and Celestial Terra?
I have Lumen/Ventus/Aqua equipped fwiw
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Does this really only drop from this piece of shit fight?
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>>574594865
bro large big gulps are 59 cents with a membership
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>>574590420
Why is Bea so cute?
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>>574595374
Ice dog is one of the better fights in the game
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>>574594783
On the Clock, makes you unkillable but it can act as a filter until you get used to it's rotation.
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i prefer zeta over bea
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>>574595840
I personally want a threesome
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>>574595840
So does anyone that isn't retarded
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>>574595287
Uplift is kinda pointless.
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>>574594865
I went to a marketing course earlier this year and the divorced early 40s guy giving the course hit the room full of adult course participants with the whole 6 7 thing at some point. I still have no idea what he was trying to achieve with it but it was met with silence
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>>574595924
I wouldn't say no to that either, they're both very hot, respectfully.
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>>574595840
I think we should hear >>574595924 out
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>finished my first character
>now feel 0 guilt getting all the cheater mods for MSP and optimal summon skills and all that shit
im gonna force cygays to respect my time now
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>>574596112
Why?
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>>574596302
Outside of the first SBA you will basically get into a loop of SBA - link time - sba - link time on repeat.
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>>574596252
>please bro I just CAN'T win if I don't have stout heart and +100% cap summons
>we're losing because I deepthroat the entire crit bar solo? how could this happen! must be my team's fault for not having optimized cheated gear
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any lobbies?
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>>574594280
Based gameplay enjoyer, same
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Anyone else feel like the game sometimes decides "Bo you didn't perfectly guard this attack so fuck you"? Cause against the world I'm perfectly blocking his attack and reflecting it at him, but it's also KILLING me when I do it. There's no other aoe going on when he does it, no other attack, nothing. and it just kills me while reflecting it back as if I still did it right.
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capped on msp, evens I dump into Io, odds I dump into vaseraga
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>>574596916
>dump into io
She can take it, she is the village bike after all.
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>>574594560
It’s needed if you want the master of Relink title. That’s not tied to any steam achievements though.
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>>574595406
I left out the crunch bar cause I didn't want to sound like a fatass
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>>574596892
Make sure no one in your party has slow, petrified, paralysis, or glaciate.
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>>574597008
>village bike
That's Fraux bro
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>>574596684
i already did all the quests several times, that's what "finished" means
but yeah i'd rather just cut the fluff to mess around on alts without treating the game like an AFK bitcoin miner
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>>574597082
Why?
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>>574597140
They break the perfect guard mechanic and don't do anything. This applies to all of Infinity and most of Chaos++ btw
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Put her in Relink Cygames
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231,450 base dmg taken

162,015 with stout heart - 70% of the dmg,
116,377 with steel nerves + stout heart, 71.8% of the dmg vs just stout heart
124,751 with stronghold + stout heart, 77% of the dmg vs just stout heart
89,610 with steel nerves + stronghold + stout heart, 55.3% of the dmg vs just stout heart
80,649 with steel nerves + stronghold + stout heart + crabvestment returns 10% dmg cut, 49.8% of the dmg vs just stout heart

amount of blue sigils kept the same throughout testing (4, for +24% defense), immortal shell was on as well for 2% defense, and +5% defense from mastery tree
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>>574596892
There's some fucky stuff going on with quickening if multiple people perfect block it I think? Might just be that the game gives you the sound but in reality someone else got the timing
>>574597140
Nothing fucks with timing a dodge or block more than a slow on the boss
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>>574597292
>my perfect guards can get fucked over by my party members if they get status effects
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>>574596684
>>please bro I just CAN'T win if I don't have stout heart and +100% cap summons
>>we're losing because I deepthroat the entire crit bar solo? how could this happen! must be my team's fault for not having optimized cheated gear
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Aside from infinite are there any quests that people routinely do online?
I just wanna play with people while I farm shit and not get matchmaking forever
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>>574597558
Dragons
The big infinite 5 but on chaos+
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>>574597558
I have no problems getting people in any Chaos++ quest
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>>574596916
Okay these have to be some of the worst master traits I've ever seen why so much goddamn useless ATK?
And why does the tree that removes Paralysis from Lightning give +2 seconds to Lightning Paralysis duration???? Cygames what the fuck??
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>>574597558
Revenge of the Ooze
Four Dragons of the Apocalypse
The Myths Are Real
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We do a little trolling
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God damn queueing infinite with pubs is awful. You get one or two fediels and somehow the clear time is still worse than when I play with /gbfrg/. How can you be this much of a shitter while playing the most broken character? I can't imagine how awful you'd be if you were playing an actual character.
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What skills for nuke percy?
And quick charge or quick cooldown?
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>>574598014
my issue is how so many pubs just don't run any fucking stun
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>>574598106
i have 272 stun, is that enough?
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>>574598014
I'm sure there's a decent amount of retards that just pick ehr up and never bother looking into why she's so strong. But there's prolly also people that just like tall brow big tiddied dragon lady and never even thought about looking up whats meta. Or how to play their character
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You're not cool for shitting on Fediel btw.
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What are these even for? I've completely maxed all weapons for my character and never had to acquire or use these
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>>574598168
thats okay assuming you dont have the mastery break nodes yet
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>>574598268
It's elemental based.
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so an endgame summon set up is just
>war elemental
>both echos
>stout heart if co-op, something else if solo
is there even any wiggle room or is it just this to get the shitty skills you cant fuse out of your builds
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>>574598268
different characters need different ones. I only had to start doing them when I ascended the weapons for the AI I chose. You also get them randomly from infinity missions if you wanna just spam those and build up a stock
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>>574598075
Quick charge 25 from wep, quick cd 15, cascade 15. Zerressen flamenmarsch rotor whirbel traumerei
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>>574598246
Nah, I always see them with the Crab Sigil buff. It always takes 10+ minutes to clear The World, Bubs, and Faa whenever there's a Fediel, probably because Fediel shitters just ignore the mechanics instead of actually playing the game especially on The World. Weirdly enough most of my 5-6 minute clears are with parties running Ghandagoza, Id, Percy, etc.
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are the dark pincers always there or they just show up now post dlc
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>>574598676
Regen or drain? Both feel meh
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>>574598871
you have to get all the normal crabs first before the quest/tracker for the dark crabs show up
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Is perfect siegfried really that hard to play? Not failing a single perfect doesn't seem that bad, even cutscene slop you have manageable tools for dealing with
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>>574599065
I haven't tried it in the dlc but in the base game never whiffing a perfect was pretty easy
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>>574598976
Neither, quick charge on weapon. He's privileged and gets lv25 for free
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>>574599065
I usually lose all my stacks through dying rather than failing a perfect execution to be honest senpai
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>>574599284
So how do I keep my health up?
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>>574598465
For damage, the starter pack is:
War Elemental
Both Echoes
Celestial Ventus, Aqua, Lumen
Supplemental Damage
Vanilla Damage Cap
Fatebreaker
2 Stun powers
Crab if you grinded for it

Then 3 Health to squeeze that extra bit but the gains are marginal

For Utility:
Nimble Onslaught
Uplift
Quick Cooldown
Cascade
Quick Charge if your character needs it

For Survivability
Improved Dodge
Guts, Autorevive, Potion Hoarder
Stout Heart
Steel Nerves (if Stout Heart)
Stronghold
Divergence
Regen, Drain, or Nimble Defense (All of these are good, just pick the one that fits your character/play style the best)

Note you shouldn't need Aegis/Greater Aegis so long as you put Defensive/Utility sigils in front of damage ones for 10k HP and 6% Defense each. You'll have around 160-170k HP this way and that's honestly more than enough with 24-30% defense from the mastery and either Stronghold or Stout Heart. Steel Nerves really isn't needed either imo unless you really want to ungabunga
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so where the fuck is vira
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>>574598465
obv you can use any summons with good traits and eq bonus then equip the WE/echoes instead
its just that you can't synth WE and both echoes so you stuck with whatever subs they have as a sigil so those 3 are the recommended summon traits
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post yfw you get MVP over a Fediel
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>>574599395
You got pots right? Though Lord's Ambition is pretty nice, it heals you and gives +ATK buff on parries
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>>574599736
jorked herself to death over Katalina bikini
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>>574599878
I've done it several times with Bea and Zeta. I don't particularly feel anything since it's largely meaningless. I just want a smooth clear.
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>>574599570
>>574598465
Oh shit summons, I thought you meant sigils
Yeah War elemental both echos and stout heart
But if you already have good Echo/War elemental + something useful sigils, it's not that big of a deal
It's only Stout Heart that can't get a double sigil so that's probably the one you want to focus on
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>>574564205
>boss goes in "mechanic" mode
>lose two full rotations of stacks buildup
at least make it so if i whiff the skill the timer stops for a second, no stack gained
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>>574598465
Lots of wiggle room for the other 3 and stout heart is actually still good for the AI(they take hits but dont die). The main thing about the WE and the echos is that they represent the last 3 attack slots we can't really remove from our build so being able to replace them with a summon lets us also slot in a stun power or defensive sigil on top instead. The DLC shits out copies of them on the regular though so its not a big deal to get them on a sigil, and the equip effect is probably more important for them since it can go up to 100%
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>>574599893
That doesn't sound like it would be enough with all the shit flying around in infinity and with how little pots heal
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>>574599878
A?
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>>574599878
I was playing 4 dragons with 3 Fediels in open matchmaking and I got the MVP on them surprisingly.
It felt pretty good to see the first time, especially since the Maglielle discord was crying about WHY DON'T WE DO AS MUCH DAMAGE AS FEDIEL AIEEEEEE
60 sec dummy tests have rotted people's brains
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>discordnig
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I see people charging schlacht super faster after dodging but I can't do it
Am I missing a mastery or something?
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>>574600943
Why are people so obsessed with damage in this game when everyone can clear? Just use a character you like from a design standpoint and is fun. This isn't FFXIV savage shit.
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>>574567358
bea is for beautiful duh
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>>574601139
>totally clearable wih anything but 90% of the playerbase are to retarded to even do the most simple mechanics so they need the broken dps character
Sounds a lot like ffxiv savage actually
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you don't understand I NEED that MVP I EARNED it I ME ME ME I AM the MOST VALUABLE and anyone else that gets it STOLE IT they didn't EARN IT I DID
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>>574601021
I'm only there for the resources, actually talking there is genuinely nauseating
>>574601139
Ikr? Like as long as I feel like I'm pulling my weight I'm chill. Getting MVP doesn't actually get you anything in this game anyways.
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>>574600943
>i matched up against 3 shitters and won
>Complaining about dummy test when Fediel basically treats every boss as a dummy
I know Mag does pretty decent damage all things considered but don't be delusional anon, fediel is still leagues above others in damage and real tests, i don't think is even arguable at this point
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>>574601276
I think the dps disparity between the best and worst non-duplicate comps in ffxiv has always been sub 10% funny enough
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>>574601479
Read the post above yours, I'm not the one seething at damage tests, and I really don't care how much damage Fediel does.
I'm still playing the game and enjoying my character.
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>>574601139
Because everyone can't clear
Try beating a damage check online with a low damage character if you got three other low damage characters
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>>574599878
Only the vaseraga anon steals it from me
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Zamn
https://youtu.be/wn8E40j3WNE
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aww heeellll yeah bros look check me out look look I beat a non-5* fediel aw heeel yeah bros I am the SICKEST NASTIEST BEST RELINKER look I beat the broken character look look
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Uh oh Fedielkek melty
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Razia for DLC puriis
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>normal cap up
Perfect

>skill cap up
>stun up
Good

>healing cap up
>SBA/Chain cap up
Workable

>HP up
>Atk up
>crit up
Yikes
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>>574601139
I've only played solo in ER so far so I'm just spit-balling here. People like to compete even in co-op games, or they want to feel like they're pulling their weight and are putting stock in damage dealt. As much as I like the parser for helping with AI testing its a lot harder to ignore something concrete like damage done over abstract measures like MVP racing with honors. I imagine that once a majority of the population has gotten over the hump of beating infinity for the first time damage discussion will be a lot less heated/a bit more civil. Granted my first few clears were also desperate and had me searching for better AI but now that I'm starting to clear the infinity quests with 2.5-4 min to spare I'm a lot more open to the idea that anyone can clear
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qrd on id's godmight hidden gauge? does it increase your dmg past cap
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>>574602248
>Gunlance
Would be cool
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What is the best Djeeta doujin
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Clarisse doko
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I do play Katalina, what are the chances of this rolling?
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>>574602652
Awakening+ sigils are somehow assured
a Warpath with a decent subskill, now thats what you are looking for
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>>574601730
I've been in a group with me as Ferry, and the others as Song, Siete, and Seigfried and we cleared just fine. You CAN clear with any comp.
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>>574602824
Thought I got hella lucky, still really like it, keeps the Sigils easy to organize.

Got one for Rosetta too but Idk if I wanna level her
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>>574602582
https://nhentai.net/g/527358/
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>siete's unique sigils and warpath are all complete dogshit
why
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>>574603061
I don't play smugman, why are they bad?
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>>574603061
no?
His uniques let him build more bar and boost your inflated stun.
His Warpath was ass in the base but now you are retard if you dont slot it, its free perma 20% DMG dealt, stout, strong regen
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>>574602582
any that aren't rapey
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>>574602086
was this linked on some reddit thread or something, this is the 4th time its been posted here
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>>574603371
I just happen to saw it when i scrolled yt
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relink girl most likely to be a rapist that isn't djeeta?
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when am I supposed to SBA in the visual dogshit fight that is infinity Luci? I never got to the homo satan farming stage in the base game so I have no idea wtf is going on
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What master trait style should I run on Fraux I just unlocked her
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>>574602582
(C90) [Ikaring (Ajishio)] Korwa-san no Chissa na Mizugi de H ni Hatsujou suru Kikuudan
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>>574603507
Narmaya and Zeta
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So where do people come up with these multi million damage numbers on the dummy? Even with terminus, all the right summons (WE/BE/SE/stout) as well as maxed supp and sigils (crab included) i'm doing nowhere near the MAGIC numbers. Hell, even some practice runs i do just as much with the ascension weapons. Is there a trick i'm missing or is it just autism?
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>>574603648
ehhhh I don't see it. narmaya would be extremely sad at any kind of rejection and just start crying, and zeta seems like she's never been horny in her life
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>>574603519
Paradise Lost cast or to push him past a health threshold. It should queue the next big skill cast other than Paradise Lost if you can do it.
70/50/30/25/10 if you're wondering.
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>>574603783
Dummy builds usually aren't real builds so it has stuff like glass cannon and other optimizations that only exist for dummy play
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>>574603869
please reword it like you're talking to Beatrix
I am a Fediel main BTW
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>>574604035
for simplicity's sake just save them for when he's channeling paradise lost
>I am a Fediel main BTW
changes nothing
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Bea is intelligent....
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>>574604035
If you see paradise lost castbar on screen. Send it.
If you don't see it on screen, make sure you can get under one of the listed numbers by the time the SBA chain ends.
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>hit dummy
>140% dmg cap
>replace a defense sigil with a dmg cap sigil
>hit dummy
>156% dmg cap

I don't understand
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>>574600943
which master trait do you use anon? i plan to main her after i'm done maxing her weapons but the few i seen in infi pubs logs she felt like a support char
i heard shield has the best damage but its one of those get hit get fucked extra hard trait
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>>574603865
>zeta seems like she's never been horny in her life
So true, my bro Zeta is the most platonic person I know.
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>>574604337
Do you have the mastery trait that boosts attack for attack sigils equipped?
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nobody plays percival so i can't ask which of his character sigils are actually worth it
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does immortal shell still give regen or its gone at lvl 20?
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>>574604910
it gives all of the effects at once, that said the regen is pretty tiny
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>>574603507
The JK
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>>574603865
>narmaya would be extremely sad at any kind of rejection and just start crying,

Wow, I really hate picturing this. She's too nice and kind I don't like the idea of her being upset lol
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>>574604359
I use the skill spam build, so my damage output is far from "optimal", but it's the most fun to me and it gets the job done. I also run Uplift and Nimble Onslaught so my Maggie is more utility than anything.
I need to actually try the shield build, I know it has the highest damage by far, and other characters can provide heals (shields) to get it online faster.
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>>574604893
Movement speed while charging is goated
Healing on parry is great too
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>>574605045
she LITERALLY can't because everybody consents
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>>574605202
oh poop he's one of THOSE characters that use all his sigils on top of asking for quick charge too... how many quick charge sigils can i get away with?
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Tested it out because someone on the /v/ threads pointed out that air combos can still trigger showman in deathmatch but why the fuck is gallanza's infinite deathmatch build stem from his crux/showman build
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I've seen videos of people soloing (as in true solo without AI) a lot of end game bosses but has there ever been a run where the entire game is done in solo from start to finish?
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Ive been running into these chinese cheaters doing way more damage than normal and im wondering what are they changing to do so, maybe bigger damage cap %??
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>finally fully finished my Terminus
>the traits are all dogshit and basically uselless
>im doing less dmg now
fuck man, idk wtf to do
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>>574605484
there's literally just cheats to do more damage
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>>574603869
Doesn't he take hella reduced damage while casting Paradise Lost?
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>>574605514
>the traits are all dogshit and basically uselless
>idk wtf to do
read nigga read
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>>574605484
it's a trainer. probably fling trainer, i use it myself to have godmode so i can do tests on the stupid fucking mastery traits that say dmg dealt increased but may or may not actually break cap. also useful to test stuff like link time rotations since it enables infinite link time, and you can actually try out summons like bubz or whatever with infinite summon gauge so you don't look like an idiot when you summon for the first time
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do any of the +ATK master traits pass DMG cap or no? I hate how confusing this is
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AFK farming slime doesn't seem all that great. It's RNG whether or not Eustace is in range to start it off. Feels like 4 Dragons is better that way.
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>>574604646
Oh that would make sense...
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>>574562492
>>574564979
>>574566764
Better example with with actual runback.
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How much gear do I need on my AI party to have comfy clear speed on mastery farm stages?
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is this 100 with 5 health/stun/crit/etc?
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>>574601997
*Steals your mvp*
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My maggie build. FoF fits her surprisingly well. I've been using Crux build with FoF in pubs and some lobbies here, and the DPS is pretty solid. It also builds SBA faster than everyone else.
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>give another 2 other characters real builds
>from 4:30 down to 2:20 afk luci
Oh yeah now we're grubbin
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>>574606190
Yes anon, 5 times 20 it 100
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>get comfy with ascension weapon health
>go to terminus
>get hit ONCE from 199k and go in the red

I sure didn't miss this. Feels even harsher than base game.
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>>574606181
If you fully transcend their weapons you can just throw whatever cap up and supp damage sigils you have on them and they clear easily
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any lobbies?
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>>574603061
>>574603250
Yeah his warpath actually seems really good now with the changes to him, surely it's worth taking.
Dunno about the others, how tight is his build?
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>>574606330
Your Stout Heart? Your Garrison? Your Steel Nerves?
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Song damage is alright you guys made it seem like it was absolute dogshit
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>>574606213
Thx for the build Maggiebro
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>>574606996
No, I said song players, not song damage
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>>574606231
>5 runs later
Hard work really does pay off bros
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>>574607171
What is actually happening here for him to be a summon
You just beat him and put him in a crystal prison and now he's Lyria's cuck?
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>>574606330
Get 4 or 5 defensive/utility sigils in the first slot and get that mastery that gives you defense for each and you'll be fine
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>>574606996
Don't listen to the hyperbolic umbasses here. Play who you want.
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>>574607249
i don't think they explain anything about summons in this game considering you can summon lilith
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>beat every infinity quest
>fully transcended and mastery unlocked every weapon and trait
what do now?
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>>574607283
This is pretty much after 10minutes of setting her up for infinity via 2cs after people here just said he was horrible. I'm sure there's song players that could do much better than me too
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gold clock beas are you slotting it max quick cooldown? i cant fit it with max supp unless i get rid of comy skills like auto revive and potions hoarder
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>>574607171
He shall never be free from his whack ass crystal prison
Lyria can "copy" primals to summon but the game kinda gave up on that a long time ago and just makes random shit into summons
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>>574607347
Now you farm for summons with good traits
Or build new characters
I guess!
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>>574607249
Lyria's power essentially copies the essence of things. She's not actually summone THE faggot, but rather creating a duplicate of his essence. This is true of all primal beasts she summons, they're not actually the one, but a small fragment of them.
As a note, Bahamut is some kind of celestial starfish. He warns you that each of those fragments of him Lyria has all have the potential to become a new full power Bahamut, too.
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>>574607410
From what I understand, more than 1 quick cooldown gives really poor returns
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Guys I think I'm in love with Bea
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>>574607410
I'm not using any quick cooldown why would I?
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>>574607562
Too late. I'm marrying her tomorrow.
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>only about 3-5% damage increase
>you fuck up and get SBA/skill sealed longer tanking your damage (and team overall if you miss the chain) for way lot more
the amount of meme passives in the ex tree is just ridiculous to me I mean +4 stun
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>>574607558
you either only go 15 or 45. the middle levels are really bad
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>>574607410
1 Cascade + 2 QC and still consistently hit gold clock really fast. autorevive Lv10 from my weapon imbue.
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Skill reset zeta or loop zeta?
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>four women screaming at the top of their lungs while going ape shit on the boss
this is what peak FUN looks like
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>>574607410
i think i have 1 sigil with quick cooldown, but it doesn't really matter for gold clock anyways since you can just go XYY to get the individual buffs before going into bea mode, which by then you'd have 1 or 2 skills to get 4 or 8 stacks plus a simple XXYY or XXXY combo to get 10 stacks and go into gold clock.
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>>574607786
terminus or asc? i can fit it easily in asc
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>>574607830
What would a threesome with Bea and Zeta be like anyway? Could any anon here last more than 2 minutes?
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>>574607876
terminus
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>>574607410
Cascade is usually more than enough. The hardest part about gold clock is the management I think. Bosses fucking off means you lose huge damage windows and restart from nothing. Also hoping bea gets a change to where if she has nothing for link time at the very least she gets causality + 3 buffs. Going into link time with nothing just gives you casuality > need to build 3 buffs > need to build level 10. It kinda sucks. Either that or bea getting some meter freezing during downtime phases like sandy gets
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>>574607948
i would
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>>574607948
>Bea has no clue what she's doing but pretends she's an expert
>Zeta knows
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>>574608015
guess i shouldnt bother till i can drop the atk sigils
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>>574608015
What is your HP at with Bea and her Terminus? I'm at 193722 with her in my build. You manage to get closer to 200K?
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>>574607496
I will take it easy and build up my pokemons with the materials from infinity fights while I try and get good summons
is ai flying potato good? should I just go full unga or support/dps mix for ai
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>>574607948
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>>574607948
You'd have to be built like Vaseraga
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>>574607738
what even is the point of these ATK bonuses
am I being trolled by cygames
people are hitting caps by a wide margin even without any added attack stats, why are they even in the tree
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>>574608376
>girl/djeeta
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>>574608371
For a while I was doing a 179k hp build but recently I've been trying a 125k build with no deaths and rising nova(just cast it when you have all 3 buffs) to push more damage. this character is just insanely tanky she has so much DR because you get into causality so easily and you are basically unkillable in gold clock
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>>574608472
is GBF just a harem game where Danchou (You) collect wives? maybe I should play it...
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>>574607830
hey buddy, can you censor those obscene tits too in the future? they're triggering my AGP without my consent
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>>574607738
>>574608601
It all makes sense if you realize they just had no idea what they were doing
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>>574608472
Love the part when he used Zeta's reigns and fucked her silly. Would do the same.
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>>574608426
I tried using Cog as a support but she didn't do any damage so I just said fuck it and built 2 DPS
Idk about Mag as AI but I know AI Percival does insane damage, Eustace is pretty good too
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Do I need 1 uplift or 2?
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>>574608696
Yeah it's totally worth it
It's actually kinda fun early on, when everything works an there's a dozen things to grind to improve your grid
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>>574608696
You can try, but you better get used to getting cucked by y*ri/fujo/shipshit at the same time, as well as incoherent retcons, bait & switches, or character assassinations every other week.
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i never really played Id in the base game and want to pick up an entirely new character to me. is dragon tree Id basically just mashing x and playing skill whackamole? how's it compare to other masteries?
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>>574608921
1 lets you keep up with set meta chains timings,
2 only if you want to start the chain
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>>574608472
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>>574606213
Yeah FoF has remained core to my shield build since I saw people shitposting about using FoF on Charlotta a few threads back. Nimble Onslaught procs help her SBA gain while the boss moves around a lot and the extra defense for saving your shield is huge.
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>>574609062
it is
you should try the godmight tree first just to see if you like godmight play style better but I found it hard to line up godmight combos with the boss
never touched the charged attack one
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:o
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>>574609181
Which bea/zeta doujin is this from?
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>>574608696
*wives and husbands
There are guys who are into (You) too, girls still outnumber guys though
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>Terminus puts me at 63/65 on DmgCap
>i have literally no way of fixing that shit
>every DmgCap wrightstone i have is so unironically dogshit that attempting anything loses me 12 or so levels of Stun(and 10 of Autorez)
>along with giving me uselless 3rd traits at lvl4-8
>not a single one of my Summs have it either and even if i did i would still lose other usefull shit on top of their own DmgCap%
FUCKING
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>:(
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>>574609128
NTA but is 3 overkill?
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>>574606996
when people saying song is ass they meant pub ones (even >discord lobby songs are usually horrible too)
since you use logs too check your prev pub infi runs where someone else runs her then see how little she contributes compared to pub vane fraux zeta vase etc
everytime i try to reassure myself this run with a song will be fine in bubs/the world infi i always fucking regret it and wish i instaleave at the start. in fact only once i won with her mostly because fediel effectively solo carries entire room in baha
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have you guys ever seen two people get MVP before?
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>>574610121
This man won the lottery.
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>>574608696
First of all, no. GBF is a clusterfuck with no identity on what its target audience actually is. One week it'll be doing haremshit, next week it'll be yuri shit, then fujoshipping, then shonenshit. It's completely schizophrenic.
Second, the game is a horrendous grind and like all gachas, you're 10 years behind and you'll never catch up. Don't bother.
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How should I be prioritizing support skills?
Guts vs Autorevive/Drain vs Regen/Quick CD vs Cascade/etc.
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>>574610121
>old men with guns
>and a twink
why
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I want to play Seofon but I legitimately feel like I'm NTR cucking myself. I just know in my heart that all of these girls join him every night and he breeds all of them unprotected, as well as taking turns doing anal when he feels like it.
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>>574610553
Danchou isn't there because he's fucking all the other women, anon.
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>>574610553
dont worry anon he is only sexually attracted to swords
and killing god
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>>574610121
Hate default Oigen's look. They should had giving his captain coat as a removebable outfit.
Song too, option to remove her eternal coat as reference to her 5*.
Siegfried, half destroyed helm
Vaseragga, no helmet with bandages
Yoda, two different hats, his straw fisherman hat and his white pointy cap
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terminus bea is too squishy :(
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>>574610645
I'm pissed we didn't get Fraux's hood as a cosmetic up/down option
They ever had it on in the story cutscenes so there's no excuse they had the work done
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>>574610517
Lancelot is ruining the vibe...
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>>574610121
mind blown
>>574610319
autorevive is a must
then guts and potion hoaeder
divergence is better than drain, then get drain
cascade is better than quick cooldown, there's usually cooldown already on the masteries
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>>574610738
She's soft enough as a sleeve
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>>574610319
Autorevive is always a must.
You can get away without Guts. Only use it if you have a free slot.
You can completely ignore Regen.
You already get Drain from your terminus or crab sigil
Cascade > Quick Cooldown, but it depends on the character. Some characters don't really need either.
Try to get Uplift if you have a free slot.

Autorevive > Uplift = Nimble Onslaught > Cascade > Quick Cooldown
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>>574610740
You even play as hooded Fraux in one of the story mode fights before she shows up proper
There really is no reason why it shouldn't be toggleable.
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>>574610553
He is a huge goober and people cant stand him. The only ones who stand him are:

>Uno
Its convenient for him
>Song
She is the "good to everyone" type of girl
>Captain
same as the above and the universe is centered around him
>Esser
Feels indebted to him kinda but not really
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Infinity lobby: F9MP P38S KQQB KXUF
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>>574610783
>Autorevive is always a must.
>You can get away without Guts. Only use it if you have a free slot.
You got it backwards, autorive is the first thing that should fly off your sigil table when trying to squeezy things in
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>>574602465
ended up testing myself and writing this, for any id gamers that are interested
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>>574610997
3/4
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>>574610553
Why do niggas come here to post their cuck fantasies, this is really embarrassing shit dude
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>>574602465
>>574611087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmedOKAnC3U
It does.
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>>574610997
full
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>>574560661
I'll farm materials but I straight up will not deal with save scumming for an hour just to get my sigils to roll the correct traits in the correct order.
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Cummin in bea
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>>574602465
>>574611087
>forgot link
https://rentry.co/hiddengodmight
>>574611226
>can let FFV rip and dodge cancel before it's active to not put it on cd with FFV mastery
neat
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>>574609483
Is the Godmight combo just mashing Y? You never punch in Godmight right? Do you have to dodge cancel anything?
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NEW THREAD
>>574612131
>>574612131
>>574612131
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>>574609851
https://exhentai org/g/1385819/0b085b16f9/
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>>574610997
That last Hexa was very fun, thanks for the games :}
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>>574611195
He's probably a /gbfg/ tourist, cuckshit is all the rage over there



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