>skitPreviously on /coopg/: >>574654037>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730Patch 1.12.0 patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-patch-1-12-0-out-now-skitarii-later-today/122573Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Vermintide 2:Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528>Also Exist:Space Marines 2Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2Payday 2The Outlast TrialsKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Earth Defense Force 6WWZKilling Floor 3Far Far Westand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>>574778767well then does it have cute girlswhat's the monetization like
Abelard, kick him in the nuts.
>>574778996I keep trying to play this game because everyone creams himself over it but I just can't get into the walls of text and gameplay being some small models vaguely waving their arms for an attack
>>574779212It's a big part of why CRPGs are so niche. It's a meme-able game which is probably it's greatest success.
>>574779212The walls of text ARE the gameplay, it's a pretty niche genre as a result.
whats the point in the blaze force sword? greatsword does literally everything other than having a bazillion dashes better but combat blade is better for that anyway
>>574781045more mobility, light stab, uncannycombat blade sucks
>>574781045Deimos has higher single target dps, and infinitely higher unyielding/boss rapist dps than both of those. Requires autism to use though. Deimos also has access to superiority and peril strength which allows you to use it as a stat stick for ongoing DoT effects. Also the special rapes captain shields similar to the shock mace.
>>574770515wolfenstein the new colossus had an upgrade that was battle stilts extending which allowed you to access upper levels. that would be funny in this game. rather than making you immobile i'd have them be a limited time melee immunity, costing grenade charges, at the expense of making you easy to shoot, but also easier to shoot others. combine with aimbot for funni
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
>>574781625>deimosisn't that the one without a single workable horde clear attack in its entire moveset? how the fuck do you even play that
>>574778996>>574779212>>574780904>>574779662What the fuck even is this
>>574782186Rogue Trader
>>574780904The stand out feature of the deimos force sword is that its heavy 2 knocks every enemy that isn't a monstrosity, including crushers and captains, straight onto its ass with a single weakspot hit.Obscurus is a very balanced option that can still kill crushers really fast if you can sweet spot with its hitboxes while being no slouch into hordes either, that's not really something the knife does nearly as well.In general I'd say force sword is the strongest pick on a staff build.>>574781625>Deimos has higher single target dpsIs that with the l1 quick cancel shit? I couldn't beat my mk6 fgs kill times with deimos l1h2bc.
>>574782142h1l2 repeating is usable into hordes in a pinch, but yes you'd be advised to have strong horde clear elsewhere in your build when using deimos, which isn't very difficult on psyker.
>>574782142If you're playing scriers, then your tree will have cleave nodes, and you can actually get away with just spamming lights most of the time even on h40. On staff builds, you should only really use your melee for single target dps when there isn't much around that needs attention anyways, which is why most h40 players just use it for the statstick blessings to amp existing damage. But if you use it for panic self defense then pushblock is insanely overtuned just like the FGS, h1 into l2 is a workable starting/combo>>574782546Yeah, with QQ. I found even BC to be higher dps, although admittedly I could try again since I assume I built my FGS wrong or I am missing something, every time I took the fgs I ended up being disappointed. Although I am autistic and have Q bound to scrollwheel down.
>>574782546fuark I meant to (You) >>574781045 time to sudoku
>>574783217Forgot to add, for most practical builds it really is just an all rounded weapon, there isn't much that it's truly weak at or any situation where it really sucks in. It's strong and it has mobility which is perfect for any psyker build.The only downside to the weapon is in the moveset itself being so different compared to other weapons.
>>574781421>>574781625i swapped from demios to illisi for a run there and that seems to have sorted some of the issues i was having, you get kinda raped by the shield ogryns because literally zero stagger on illisi but at least i dont have to kill hordes by slicing each limb off individually
>>574783217This was my most recent testing. fgs, deimos, and obscurus all have a very similar ttk into h40 crusher unless the fgs gets a crit on a stab at which point it pulls ahead by like 33% more dps. Didn't bother with disrupt destiny so maybe that would have changed it? On everything with less armour fgs should pull ahead even more, especially hordes.
>>574784357I will have to consneedAnd yeah, I normally run it with DD and superiority which makes it feel much better at snowballing into armor packs in runs, but i will try the fgs again tomorrow to see if I was just being retarded.
True Grit?More like True Shit!
What's the September update gonna be? I hope to god it's not just more Expeditions or Snoretis trials.Like at least give ogryn new weapons, it's soon almost been 2 years since we got anything.
>>574787245they should be giving every class at least 4 weapons a year. they're just fucking lazy
>>574783821>>574783217>>574783000ok guess I'll try it on my flame psyker in auric see how it goescurrently I'm using duelling sword not because it's particularly great at anything but simply because it keeps me mobile and I already know the moveset very well from vet and zealot. I immediately dropped blaze sword when I tried the combos in the psykhanium what perks and blessings do you put on it for flame psyker self defense build
>>574786309I like True Grit!
Am I allowed in the cool kids club yet?
>>574789171>19.3%Imagine how many vet mains play only vet and never once pull out their melee weapon
is there a version of numeric ui that doesn't cause stuttering and sheet
Next major patch wishlist>Buff Catachan swords>Buff Chainswords>Buff Heavy Sword>Minor buff for Power Falchion>Minor buff for normal Shockmauls>Minor buff for Combat Axes>Minor buff for Heavy Stubbers>Minor buff for Shovels>Make Zarona combat shotgun's special not suck ass.>Nerf slide spam>Buff Arbites>Nerf Arbites Shockmaul>Nerf Inferno Staff>Nerf Perilous Combustion>Revert Indignatus Crusher attack speed nerf from over a year ago>Buff Crowbar>Nerf Needle pistol>Make it so Thunderhammers have infinite cleave and only stops when it connects with a large enemy.Normalize balancing existing content, rather than begging the lazy swedes at rotund megalodon for new overpowered shit that powercreeps everything
>>574789416>stuttering with NumericUIIt's not a particularly lightweight mod for some reason, but you must be playing on the potatoest computer possible to be experiencing stutters from that singular mod.
>>574789561>>Nerf slide spamBest course of action would be disabling stamina regen during a slide entirely, and resetting your speed instead of letting you slide movetech copter around. Both of these feel like exploits.>>Buff Arbiteslmfao what the fuck for?>>Nerf Arbites ShockmaulIt's not even the class' best melee weapon, are you high?
>>5747895612 months out until the next "major" patch so it's all speculation until the PTS starts up again.
>>574784116You are doing it wrongOn staff psyker your melee is for killing shielded captains, mutants, dogs and occasional close range elites. Deimos is much better for it.If you don't use staves, then greatsword is better.Shielded boss spam is the main reason why knife and drooling sword suck.
>>574789370This but zealot mains
>>574789758>Thinks Arbites isn't tied with Zealot for being the worst class in the gameDECLINED
>>574789758Slides and dodges should cost staminaStamina cost of everything should be halvedDodge count should be removed
>>574789996This is some advanced bait.
>>574789370I started with veteran but it seemed boring to me
Skill modifier talent nodes should be free. Keystone modifiers should be half cost.
the best starting class in darktide is getting every character in vermintide to 30 first
>>574789370This is based and how the game should have been
When can we get dancing emotes
>>574789370that was me for the first 60 hours of maliceletting and heresyletting
>>574789758>It's not even the class' best melee weaponWhat is then?
>>574791179Tac axe makes the biggest numbers if you fully commit to BTL/AV DPS blending. Plays kinda like zealot. You gotta be hyper aggressive, but you have the mobility to do it with the axe.Shield does the most overall. It's not the most damaging, but the strongest in the sense that it's very likely the winningest. The flashbang is absurdly powerful.
How likely is it we get thousand sons/ emperors children/wordbearers armour pieces when we get Chaos Siege mode?
>>574789758>It's not even the class' best melee weaponshield copesters are unreal
>>574791395I would assume they just reuse the pvp assets, so yes.
>>574790962>me and an ogryn player
>>574791971that's a cute ogryn
Will sisters of battle have the she pronoun?
>two slavrunes just joined my lobbywhat am i in for
>>574792250Sibling Type 2 of Battle
>>574790962Post your Mourningstar dance
>>574791350>It's another retard who thinks single target DPS is the only thing that matters for a weaponPlease refrain from sharing game advice until you have beaten havoc 40 + attained true survivor.
>>574792392
>>574789996Zealot can at least give gold toughness
>throw all my poison into elites/monstrosity>run around aimlessly so run & gun kills them fasterwas this the way needle pistol was meant to be played?
I was catching up in the last thread and someone said you can get Skitarii melee crit chance up to 70%. How?
I feel like I lose every other game I play with ogryn
>>574793308Shooting the Elites and Monstrosities with the pistol is correct, yes. Melee everything else to death.
UP IN DA CLUB!
>>5747934677.5% base crit6% crit bonus on tuning forks20% shred16% riposte6-10% on that one node12% flensing5% perk on the tuning forks
>>574787554>what perks and blessings do you put on it for flame psyker self defense buildAll of the +strength blessings increase your soulblaze damage (yes, that includes the stacks from staves and shriek) while active.The weapon has strong crits so shred and riposte do a lot for it, and if you take precog on top of either one you can get nutty dps.Uncanny strike makes the weapon even better at being a crusher fucker, and brittleness interacts favourably with DoT in general.Deflector can save your life when you're out of position and can't readily trigger empathic evasion.Take your pick.
>>574793764how
>havoc is de-
-eply unsatisfying
>Too good for heresy maelstrom>Too bad for auric maelstrom
>>574778756Holy shit ASS truly is the shitter title if its this easy to get, i saw people comparing 20-30 havocs to auric malestorms but this was wayyyy easier than even those
>>574796497wow, a whole 18 people
>>574796863holy shit we're back up to 15k active players?
lil bro thought he slimmed this whit his chart fr
Is ogryn really hard to play? I don't get it I can do damnation on arbites but die on heresy with ogryn
>>574797128It's kinda surprising to me, I love this game and played it a lot but this update added like nothing of value to me. Skitarii got old after like level 40
>>574797973Maybe it's all newchads like me
>>574797706ogryn is too slow in melee or kinda squishythe best thing you can be doing is pbb, its both tanky and does tons of damage
>vet didn't take field improv>nor survivalist>or piss shoutThat's literaly your only utility in ths world
>>574798194Retard who doesn't play ogryn
>>574798584did he at least use his infinite grenades?
>>574798720he tried but crushers were dead before his krak exploded most of the time
>>574798336these sorta paypigs remind me of those people who play korean MMOs and dress up their warriors in gaudy leather jackets and wrist watches
>>574797072Far Far West enjoyers where we at
>>574792250Hopefully not>>574792178That’s not the Ogryn though…
>>574797973The base gameplay loop is fun and it rewards skilled play. The talent trees are complex enough that there is some fun and dumb stuff to play around with. Weapons feel unique. It's actually a good game, but the launch was awful. If anything I think Skitarii is popular enough that it got a lot of people to reconsider playing again. Hopefully we'll get some new weapons and a map because I think that would bring back the most amount of players. I think there's another new class slated for this year
*gulp* C....Commissar Dukane? That you?
>>574792250why does that finger have foreskin...
>>574799061probably not an american finger
>>57479903030% forehead
>>574799030imagine choking her out and pounding her while she does girlboss lines
>>574798605prove me wrong, you either pick shield and then youre tanky but you do jack shit in melee, or pick anything else and you get fucked by pretty much everything if you dont know how to manage your dodges correctlyzealot doesnt have this problem, they can get away with a lot of reckless behavior unlike ogryn because theyre tanky and do damage
>>574797072Cortex command enjoyers are half that number
>>574799545>shield tells me all i need to know unc
>>574795396I miss what this game used to be >>574793402‘doro posts? In my /coopg/? It’s more likely than you think…
>>574799030fas vibes but she actually has a nice voice when she’s not given garbage direction
>>574796497DEI
>>574796619>>574796497jej
>>574799545I thought ogryn's shield was the highest damage of all his weapons>heavy - block cancel - heavyThis kills everything in the game for me
>>574799030
>>574800649wait until you discover any of the pickaxes or the power maul
>>574800669
>>574790628Never played ratclick. When I do, I will play mostly Kerillian. And probably some Bardin.
>arbitesdeclined>zealotdeclined>skitariideclined>veterandeclined>hive scumdeclined>psykerdeclined>ogryndeclined
>>574801469confirmation for the noble class? only they could be this pompous
wtf could a noble class even do
>>574799595and I am one of thembrowncoats4life
>>574801808Like a smug Hive Scum with better guns.
>>574792515late but the tac axe mogs your copestick in terms of more than just single target damage, it just doesn't in your hands because you don't know how to build it
>>574800649no, you mostly knock everyone on their ass, which is fine if you want to stand there forever, compared to pickaxe which you can oneshot crushers but you have to be very careful because youre open to a lot of damage
>>574800649>heavy - block cancel - heavyredpill me on heavy attacks. I mostly just spam light attacks
>>574802196On the shield? They actually do something. Lights don't.
>>574802265In general but actually in this case also on the shield
>>574802196cutie
>>574802304ogryn is literally designed around heavies
>>574802304Heavy attacks generally take longer, benefit less from attack speed, but can be held for a moment, and deal more damage and stagger. Depending on the weapon, the moveset may be vastly different between lights and heavies and you can chain together strings of attacks that go in the direction you want. Assuming the weapon can do those attacks.Some weapons have shit attacks mixed into their combos.Some weapons are entirely shit in some aspects, like the ogryn shield, which has worthless light attacks. They don't even have enough range or speed to reliably stagger dogs, it's fucking pathetic. You either do the h1 or you do the push headbonk. The h2 has extremely limited utility in swimming through trash, but that's about it.
>>574802195>no, you mostly knock everyone on their assDon't tell me what my experience looks like, it kills everything in the game for me. Do you think I'm too retarded to land headshots or something?>youre open to a lot of damageHow the fuck is ogryn, the class with automatic pushes when he dodges, ever open to taking melee damage. You get raped by guns and nothing else.
>>574802421Well I just felt like it would probably be tedious to always hold attack for hundreds of enemies, so I never really did it but maybe that explains why I don't feel so good with ogryn right now...>>574802547Thank you, so every weapon is different, then I suppose I'll have to look up their combos. Damn I have to actually get invested in this.At least I now know what to do with the shield
>>574802653it requires you to know how to dodge correctly, if you do not know how to manage dodges, ogryn eats shit very quickly, compared to zealot, you cannot be careless
>>574802962Talk to the psyker bitch and go in the meat grinder to test out your shit without any pressure. Also weapons have different marks, you can access that somewhere in that weapon's inventory screen. Different marks have different movesets.
>>574803148I'm not saying anything can compete with until death but the pushing dodge is a better get out of jail free card than just about everything else
>>574796497Without looking I can guarantee I know 90% of those people in those assignments.Havoc is a dead gamemode and it'd be better for the game if it never existed.
>>574803197Yeah I know about the marks. I just googled [weapon] what mark best and read what gemini summarized for me mostly from reddit
>>574802070fem hive scums look like THAT?!
Ok I just had an auric quickplay with a True Survivor in the group and he was probably the worst player of us 4 and he even managed to die once I'm startin to believe you guys
>>574803293not really because one of the problems with ogryn is theyre slow at killing things, which is how you be tanky in this game because it does two things, stops things from hitting you and replenishing your toughness, so unless youre using a knife, but that isnt that fast at killing elites, you have to use heavies to get the most value of toughness replenishment talentscompare this to any ranged ogryn builds where you can hold down right click, then left click and then shoot everything and you will regen toughness much faster than the incoming melee damageogryn gives off this idea of being a big retard that can go apeshit in melee, but the reality is you have to be methodical
I'm too fucking stupid to be good at anything
>>574804284You're good at ritualposting though
>>574804452lucky me
>>574803798almost as if titles dont mean shit
>>574803798this might have been me unironicallywas it just on excise vault?
>>574803798Either carried to it or forgot that you need to be able to do everything yourself on auric.
I just pick the title that best matches what my build's drip looks like
>>574804284just do what you like anon. Care less about being a low iq retard like me.
>>574804728I cant enjoy seeing myself stagnate when trying my hardest. I hate it. I hate myself. I'm fucking shit at literally everything I try.
>TOOOOONKGRYN >worst damage on the team by far name a more iconic duo
>>574804993Most don't seem to understand that they're still supposed to do damage and just drop their shield thinking they've done all they need to do.
>>574802653>it kills everything in the game for meThe shield is very strong in aurics, but it heavily falls off in havoc because the enemies get massive health buffs but also more stagger resistant as well. So you can't proc skullcrusher on them as easily.It's still a good weapon even in havoc 40, but it's clearly been power crept somewhat, and it's going to get only worse unless the devs finally buff and rework the slab shield somewhat.Biggest issues the weapon has is that the light attacks do fuck all, the damage on lights just sucks, they barely do any stagger and they are slow as fuck.They need to do>buff light attacks, make them like 10-15% faster and raise their damage by 20-30%, currently they are weaker than the arbites shield maul light attacks>over all buff the shield's base damage by 10-15% >completely ditch the retarded shield stance replace it with a power maul, TOONKgryns are retarded and the stance only exists to instill shitty habits into new players
>>574804993>name a more iconic duoa little bitch and her scoreboard mod
>>574804617>Either carried to itThis is just cope. True Survivors are just shit at the game and it is true.Havoc is just 4 retards holding hands and huddling at chokepoints while getting showered in piss toughness and bubble walking from chokepoint to another while abusing infinite cleave and AoE shit to nullify the game.
>>574804993Havoc players and their ego.
>drop shield>become literally invulnerable>n00bs cry because I've beaten the game
kinda wanna go back to ratclick. it's been a long time, do i need to read any guides or will shopclick translate fine
>>574805621I look like this.
>>574804993>go tonkgryn>taunt everything>taunt on push>exploit block attack strikedowns for skullcrusher>make a joke of any and all carapace>monstrosities? no problem>the veteran never has to think about melee>shield heavy strikes apply bleed to everythingTonkgryns should basically never plant the shield.
>>574805621This is the life!Nothing better!
>>574789171>only 19%jesus christ that explains a lot lot lot about the quality of matchmade teammates.
>>574804980we fall so we can get back up
>Enforcers canonically have drum mag boltguns>Arbitrator can't get a drum mag boltgun for some reason
Yeah after doing heavy attacks now it felt much better already. Carried a game with two newbies felt good bros.
>>574806802I'm tired of getting back up I want to be able to improve or fucking die. I just want to be able to improve at am average rate but I simply cannot. Everything takes extra time and effort for me and I get virtually nothing back in return.
>>574806995Based on how skittles didn't get their special style of plasma gun, I don't think the devs have a way to make class unique weapon skins and aren't sure about doing it as a differnt mark of gun
>>574807018Maybe if you moped less and dedicated more brainpower to thinking about the problem, you'd be there by now.
>>574807250>*mechanicus power sword blocks your path*
>>574807018Post what you're struggling with then and some anons might be able to help you improve. Some simple improvements in moving smarter by sliding more does a lot to keep you alive. Copying a good build does a lot to suck less. Learning your melee combo improves your damage and survivability. Block, shove, and dodge more
>>574807452It's an entirely different class of weapon, but that's pretty much the only way I see it happening. Plus a drum mag bolter skin would sell well since it's just pure rule of cool. It looks great on some of my CSM models
>>574806995I wanted the fucking grenade launcher so bad
>>574807250The skittle plasma gun functions differently anyway. It's a rapid fire automatic weapon. If they weren't lazy swedes they'd have given skittles an entirely seperate armoury like ogryn
>>574807018Post your build. Maybe post a webm of you eating shit. Videos can be useful because you might lack some critical bit of knowledge and you don't know how to describe what you're doing wrong because you don't know what you're doing wrong.For example, in the war blunder general, I've seen a lot of people get frustrated by radar guided missiles. Why do they stop tracking enemies? Why can't you evade them yourself? Why the fuck are they tracking and killing friendlies? To the player they looked like malicious random pieces of shit, and no amount of trying harder would help. Video footage demonstrated a lack of understanding of the underlying radar guidance mechanics. After having the mechanics of the missile guidance explained to them, they began to understand what locks would realistically result in a kill and which were hopeless. How to reliably defeat enemy missiles. How to recognize when a teammate is at risk of becoming the victim of a pitbull fox3.
>>574807018Improvement lies at the intersection of study and repetition. If you're not seeing any improvement while getting your reps in, you may have some knowledge gaps about the game that you need to solve first. And vice versa if you feel like you understand a lot of the game's mechanics and what it's asking of you, then you may just need more reps. It might also be that you need to self-reflect on the way your brain is wired to learn, because people are different. Just as an example, I like to second-monitor vids about game mechanics, tricks, tips, etc for games I'm into. I absorb a lot of passive tidbits that way... I've got a friend who can't split their attention at all though and they fucking hate video form content for learning, they want things written out because consuming videos locks their focus down for so long. Or like in fightan games some of my friends can just watch a combo and figure out how it's done, I have to tinker every step of the way in the lab or else I'll never absorb it even if I see someone do it a thousand times. Shrimply is what it is, making peace with what strategies work for your learning process is an important step to not letting your vidya frustrate you anymore.
>enter an elevator>one player has a corrupted wound, I have a mild scratch, other two are at full health>xbox player drops a medipackI guess he thought the medipack healed corruption?
fuck me randoms are pissing me off today, it's time to take a break
>>574809179>examining and understanding how your own learning process works and that of othersMost people don't possess metacognition like that, it's a surprisingly rare skill
>>574809209Technically he's correct if you have a vet, who is assumed to have Field Improv, except the xboxxie didn't realize or didn't read that it only works on the current wound. Unless you didn't have a vet then he's definitely ignorant on game mechanics.
>>574809561I think they do, but I don't think many people arrive at it on their own. It's one of those things that's easy to never consider unless someone points you to it in some way. It's also something people often reject when presented with, because self-reflection in general is often cognitively dissonant and uncomfortable.
does anyone get random microstutters / rubberbanding while in-game? doesnt happen in the mourningstar nor the psykanium, only for a few seconds during actual gameplay (especially in havoc)>inb4 follow that one steam guideI've already tried everything there, no dice. I'm on linux + nvidia GPU, anyone have some niche suggestion that I might've missed?
>>574811503>I'm on linux + nvidia GPUI had that as well but it would result in full on crashes. Switched to an AMD card and it just got worse lmao, I tried a bunch of stuff but sad to say the only solution I found was to dual boot windows for this stupid game.
Which sapper shovel mark is best bros?
>join an auric quickplay near the end of the map>you quickly understand whyAlso the true survivor ogryn kept dying (Chiouh)
>>574811843>dual booting winblows just for 'tidegrim... I'm gonna keep troubleshooting but if nothing works I might have to do the same
Which one is better for the WS Vet, the revolver, the laspistol or the bolt pistol?They all seem to do the same thing with minor differences to be honestBut then again I'm retarded
>>574811895the classic mkI
>>574811895I like the flip one but the stab one is definitely better