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it's still a Sarasa thread

Main website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en
Wiki: https://relink.gbf.wiki/

>FAQs
Base game FAQ: https://rentry.org/RelinkFAQ
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>Patch 2.0.2 details
https://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/

>Send your feedback here
https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedback

Previous Thread: >>574727798
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lobby?
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in a perfect reality, the entire world is just one big sarasa thread
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Anything on testing for the best AI setups?
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collect the crabs.
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>>574794597
Percival AI is a psyop and will floor hug because the computer won’t dodge when charging schatt.
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>chaos+++ Baha took 14 minutes and 40 seconds
how much fucking damage does this guy need out of you
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>>574794845
It’s hard to do damage when he fucks off every 12 seconds.
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>>574794741
fediel The token black
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>>574794741
>>574794581
sex with these posters
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>>574795006
Chaos baha actually stays and fights you tho, way better then the OG
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can this get a crazy sigil on it?
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>>574794741
I live in there. that's my home
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>>574794597
If you ignore this retard >>574794787 you will know that right now Percy is one of the best AI's
Top is full auto dragons under 4min and second is infinity content a little over 3min. In general, Fraux, Siegfried, Eustace and Percy are good characters to invest if you need an auto farm team.
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>Infinite bubz
>SBA chain
>Potato does not follow up
Do Maglielle have any animation lock or some such? I just... Can't figure out why
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>>574795530
don't sleep on id either
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>>574795381
Nimble Onslaught/Defense and Dodge Payback
but the passive is capped at 50%
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did they add a way to farm sigil upgrade mats in the new expansion? Searching online all I see is to farm a slime quest
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>>574795672
Yeah it's called Conflux Mode and it's really fun.
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>>574795381
are those stacking buffs permanent ?
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>>574795672
you get so many azurite splendors and the things that turn into them by just playing the game
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>>574795530
Thanks, I'm already using Sieg and Eustace and I couldn't play without occasional 99999 shield from Cag so I think I'm keeping my current team.
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>>574795381
where do these even drop? i beat every quest and just realized i somehow never got them.
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I am a brainlet please explain:
If I'm 130% above damage cap and increase my damage cap further, am I doing more damage even though I'm still over cap?
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>>574794260
>>574794581
I LOVE MY DRAPH WIFE
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>>574795672
Endgame quests now usually drop some Azurite Shards which can be traded for Azurite Splendors to cap out sigil levels. Plus you'll likely get Splendors as drops anyway. None of the new sigils act like Faasan's special sigils where you can't use them so you have free reign.
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>>574795981
The shield is indeed great but her AI does negative damage. Sieg keeps you alive WHILE dealing more than decent damage
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Besides Stun+Damage Cap, what other meta combos of sigils should I be save scumming for at Sierro? I'm mad that I didn't find out this method sooner.
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>>574796006
They’re from random glowing points in town after quests.

>>574796042
Yes. Damage cap stacks with itself additively so if you add 20% more cap it may only translate into a much smaller percent Cap% reduction because you gain so much of it from various sources.
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>>574796097
Everyone loves draph wifes but cygames.
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this shit is so ass
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>>574795672
I have 60 azurite splendors and 800 azurite shards
they drop after basically every quest and conflux just shits out splendors randomly
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>>574796250
holy fuck
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>>574795672
Since starting ER, i upgraded a sigil using materials once by accident, beyond that i always used azurite splendors, shit drops like candy in the expansion.
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>Cag joins party
:)
>it's DPS Cag
:(
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>>574795530
He’s probably fine and quite viable on 4 dragons, but I wouldn’t bring him into any infinity rank quests, or quests where full auto mode has a guaranteed down in a part of the fight.
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>>574796386
which mastery tree is the dps cag one
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>>574796171
Which Mastery/skills for AI Sieg?
I'm using Potent Green on my main so the only requirement is the Damage Cut skill.
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>>574796006
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>>574795530
which one is the good bot perci tree
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>>574796652
The legendary cat...
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>>574794741
Miach's used goods.
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Lobbies...
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>>574797030
...doko
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>>574796253
I dont want to try on my bea
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How's AI io and sandalphon doing these days?
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>>574797534
Most characters can hit 500M anon. And Sir Barrod is shit anyway.

https://x.com/meeeruuu1106/status/2078418383314530759
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How do you interrupt Bub's first attack, the one he starts the fight with when he pulls everyone in? I've seen people do it but I don't know what they did.
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>>574798095
Are those...!?
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>>574798075
You either just get pulled in and he starts off with a dash attack, or you just wait until the pull time is over
there's no real reason to not just get pulled in and start the fight earlier unless you eat shit from that attack.
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>640% cap
I'm only 1 transcendence away from maxing out my terminus, does that really make the most difference?
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Any eugen players here?

What's his best build?
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>>574795530
Wait, gallanza is a good AI?

What the heck does HE do? Isnt his damage ultra shit?
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Around 50 c++ skeleton quests
no stout heart
was i memed
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>>574798095
I'm trying to play her but I suck, I feel like she's one of the tougher character to play optimally.
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>>574798095
I play Narmaya sometimes because she's fun or should say DID before the DLC. Her mastery traits are all retarded so I stopped bothering.
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Farming 4 dragons all day for berserker echo and stout heart
ID: CD7S 2C4P KLG9 TJ8L
Pass: 1234
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Is there a consistent way to dodge Beelzebub's chain attack where he locks every player in place and then punches them? The one where he zips between every player.
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>every character's weapon level 150, completed base masteries
>about half the cast finished with base ascension/terminus upgrading
Soon all that'll be left is ER content
At one level I regret not doing it a long time ago, but the new stages to grind, and conflux, has made the chore a lot easier to manage
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>>574799329
You could try option selecting. Hold block then roll if you see him with a gold orb coming for you.
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>>574799162
Whats the 4 dragons quest called?
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The photo mode is so good, wish you could use the pictures on your profile
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>>574798095
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>>574800052
Four dragons of the apocalypse
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>>574798095
MINNA
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>>574800418
thanks
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>turn in a curio
>pops out stun power/dmg cap

Holy shit that was lucky.
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Relink when
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>HOW TO BEAT ANY DEFY INFINITY BOSS
>"okay so first thing you're gonna want a fully upgraded terminus and this exact setup that is only possible through mods and-"
We should be allowed to kill people who do this
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>>574800904
Just grind for 500 hours. It's what the devs intended.
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>>574800868
Thankfully never
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>fail a random proud quest because people keep dying
Reminds me of playing monster hunter and how people just refuse to run defensive stuff. If you aren't confident dodging and blocking and not dying just run defensive stuff it's better to clear a quest instead of this.
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>>574798858
What is this psyopp that Gallanza has bad damage?
His stun is shit, his damage is more than fine.
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How do I play support slut cag
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>>574800904
you can beat all of them with barely any thought to your set up as long as you aren't a retard.
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>>574801173
Even the pinpoint-perfect bots jobs, so running some defence on them is also a good idea.
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>>574800868
holy
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>>574801173
But if I drop Attack for HP and Improved Dodge my PWR will go down and I can't let other players know I have a small pp.
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Literally the only good option for Zeta is Crux right? Loop master just delays your hammer spam while buffing the interim, but your jumps reset if you do anything that ISN'T jumping including links and SBA. The skills one is whatever because her skills are already whatever and you can get cdr anywhere else. So why not just spam hammer?
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>>574801215
>Reinforce, Rhizomata, Phantasmagoria, Pain Train
>spec into Alchemedic tree and grab improved healing
>Start fight with Reinforce, grant max shield to party
>keep applying shields when boss is down so everyone is topped up before it gets back up
>if a party memeber dies, do NOT shotgun Rhizomata to rez them. Wait a second or 2 to see if they use an instant revive potion so you don't waste it
>stack HP and Stun, you're only goal as healslht Cag is to keep party alive and help interrupt boss
Combo 2 with the acissor finisher deals the most stun so spam that. You can drop Phantasmagoria for Alexandria if you want. It's just more damage vs buff.
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>>574800057
>it's all upskirts
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alright im shit at this game and i need a wheelchair, but i cant stand charlotta's glue hair and potato dress. who do i pick that's hard to kill with parry or invuln options? idk why the dodge just doesn't jive with me, but im afking the crab fight and seeing the ai dodge everything makes me sad.
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>>574799065
Firstly, all of her attack skills but the charge slash and gap closer are DPS losses vs. just mashing the freeflutter combo. The dawnfly charge counter and finisher are also weaker than the freeflutter finisher, so optimal Narmaya is just mashing X and using your two damage skills off cooldown.

Insight requires you to use both stances, but its damage bonuses are lower than the other two anyways, so there's no reason to use it.
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>>574801173
it feels like people mh got a bit better with that kind of thing though since comfy builds are pretty popular nowadays but I get what you mean.
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>>574794330
RAMM L0EG 5UNM 35MY

infinite roulette until we die of cringe
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>>574801935
aight big thanks
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>>574802068
Yoda has both a parry, invul on triangle/Y combo finishers and mirror image. Ultra safe character and mid to high damage
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>>574802404
4/4
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I am tempted to spend some money on making a Fediel chatbot and fuck her for hours... but I also gotta grind.
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>>574802514
He's also a fucking imp
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>>574802678
Make a second chatbot to fuck the first chabot while you grind. Put it on tts.
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How does the world's invoke idean bullshit actually work?

The bubbles can go and fuck themself and I blew my whole load to kill that fucking horseshit card immediately and when he absorbed them at the end of that bar he shit bubbles all over the place.
So I figure he absorbs the ones you do kill, and on the next run I ignored the bubble card and left it alive, and he STILL shit bubble all over the place.

How the FUCK does it work
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>>574802814
PLAYED LIKE A FISH
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>>574801774
Loop Master Zeta retains the Loop Master stacks if you hit Link Attack and refreshes your 2 Arvess Hammers in the process, however you do lose the stacks on SBA or anything else that interrupts the "loop stance" (e.g. normal blocking an attack while diving will default you back into aerial combo state). Also worth noting it only takes two successful loop dives to ready your 2 Arvess Hammers.

I haven't used it yet but Revenge tree does sound better if you can't into loops and want to parry your way into spamming Arvess Hammer for 7 seconds. Not sure if you lose those stacks on critical status but I'm assuming that's not the case.
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How do you set up AFK farming? Full Assist plays the game for you but you need to at least be close to the enemies for the AI to take over, so how do you guys set up the game so characters move on their own? And how to do it if the game is on the background?
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>>574802831
if you don't kill all of them idk
if you kill until there is one left then it will summon that card
usually people like sun or devil so ideally you don't hit those
uhhh don't quote me in this
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>>574798095
I think I see something...
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>>574802987
I play Yoda sometimes but do other people hear his dumbass comments?
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>>574803072
Build Eustace and play as him cause he strafes towards the boss to keep them in his optimal range.
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What are the weirdest specs ER introduced? Stuff that creates really aberrant playstyles like Fourfold Vengeance Id or Punching Eugen
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>>574803071
You don't lose stacks at all through the whole fight, but 5 stacks demotes to 4 after a set amount of time. But because you get a stack on a link attack you'll go into link time with 5 stacks and just hammer spam for 15 seconds with nothing in-between which I think is a tremendous gain over anything loop can manage.
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Impregnating sex with Harvins
Draphfags get the rope
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>>574803081
I don't think I ever figured out which cards to leave up. Devil can be rough since DoTs kill everyone equally no matter your defense/HP, Justice is my usual pick but I've heard people say the swords are annoying, and about the only thing I think people agree on is Death has to be destroyed
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>>574803865
yeah swords are my least favorite of the ones I've experienced
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bros historiath is kinda hot...
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How the hell do people make it all the way to Defy Infinity and STILL don't know how damage cap works? I'm seeing retards stacking attack boosting sigils like retards and dooming our DPS checks from the start.

And why the FUCK are they always Sandalphon?!
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What is THE AFK farming team?
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>>574802143
Good to know, I've been swapping back and forth between the two stances but if I can just stay in blue that does make things a lot simpler.
I'm currently running Dance of Pink Petals, Kyokasuigetsu, Setsuna and Transient. So I'm meant to be using Setsuna and Kyokasuigetsu for DPS? Should I hold Transient so I can retain Kaleidoscope as long as possible, or should I swap it out for another skill?
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>>574804506
Cheat engine 1
Cheat engine 2
Cheat engine 3
Cheat engine 4
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>>574798095
anon they're out for everyone to see.
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>>574802068
I main Charlotta and I'm probably worse than you. Try the Flight over Fight sigil, it makes Perfect Dodges easy, but you get -50% ATK for 6 seconds after a perfect dodge.
Add 1 improved dodge so you can do 5 dodges in a row, add a nimble onslaught to buff perfect dodge. Use guts, autorevive, and potion hoarder. You also want some HP regen, use drain and/or crab shell/regen/divergence. If you still want more you can stack your HP high with various methods.

I watched a Charlotta speedrunner and he never went above Noble Order 1, so now I don't worry about stacking it. I just use the Y (ground stab) combo finisher as much as possible.
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>>574803605
parry zeta is a weird one
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>>574803835
Yeah I could see that being the case. Loop Master goes down to only needing one loop dive to get back to Hammers during Link Time, but it's still one more step in between spamming Hammers so there's potential damage loss there. I'm sure someone's cranked out the hard numbers already but I haven't seen them yet.
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>>574803605
The vaseraga tree that revolves entirely around perfect blocking specifically while charging an attack is pretty baller
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>>574804560
My bad, I'm not chinese, I should've clarified.
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>>574803605
All of Naru's masteries. The fact that "stay in a single stance permanently" is a basic mastery is moronic since the stance switching WAS the fun part of playing her.
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>>574800868
You need to finish Estalucia arc to unlock new races, which Relink and Rising will never do
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They should just redo all of the Attack Boosting skills to Damage Cap Up if they're gonna make it impossible to not overcap and retards insist on not optimizing.
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Are people who have their power boosted over 59k even getting any reasonable return out of that or is it legit just bloat?
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>>574804560
Based.
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>>574797005
>he thinks Miach didn't take her Wedge of Darkness
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>>574800868
I'm not a furry, but...
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>>574805146
They should just remove like ~3 Sigil slots and remove Damage Cap entirely.
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fuck ive been using beas warpath wrong this whole time. i thought thats anytime shes in devour clock mode. you NEED to be in red
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>>574803257
I have no idea because I am the only person I have ever met who plays yoda
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>Sir Barrold takes 0 DoT damage
?????
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Need more swordwoman in Relink
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>>574805549
change it to score/time attack on chaos++.
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>>574800868
>NORF FC
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>>574805585
>Bea brain but Red
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>>574804530
>Should I hold Transient so I can retain Kaleidoscope as long as possible
The Kaleidoscope rotation is Setsuna > Kyokasuigetsu > Transient after Kyokasuigetsu is off cooldown > Kyokasuigetsu. You don't want to sit on Kaleidoscope because you don't get the cooldown cut if your butterflies stay at 6, which means fewer Setsunas, and the DPS gain over Utter Devotion is marginal for the trouble. Also, you don't want Butterfly's Valor with the skill style for the same cooldown reason. Valor is pretty skippable now on the others too desu.
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>>574805723
What happens if these two negatives stand near each other?
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>>574801215
is the slut part really needed
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how does Chaos++ Lucilius compare to old base game 30k power Zero? i never actually beat the latter and im a tad frightened
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>>574805585
I remember when I wanted her in GBVS. She'd be a great pick for Relink if they want to pull from that group and avoid Grimnir.
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>>574805748
Thanks bwo, I'm too retarded for this game.
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>>574805426
This, Damage Cap is such a stupid fucking mechanic, IT'S STUPID.
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My terminus weapon is almost capped out but i know its a long way away, how do I fix my Io? any spec works but ive mainly been using magic chain
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>>574805956
it's even more sfx vomit
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>>574806175
>>574805426
It's a tedious mechanic but a good one to keep things balanced; otherwise, we'd easily be able to do stupid damage while slotting a few key defensive sigils to be immortal.
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>>574805956
Chaos++ luci is closer in strength to regular luci relative to your new power level. Infinity luci is a bitch though and is the closer comparison to zero luci
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So the endgame aetup can basically be boiled down to these three things:
>20k HP or lower to use Terminus buffs
>maximum Stun
>maximum Damage Cap
Everything else is basically extra, yeah? I'm too lazy to hyper optimize so I want a base setup that can be used by any character.
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I wish they would tweak Narmaya's Dawnfly stance and Paradigm Shift to be better. I really wanted to invest in that style but it seems like it might be the worst to max out period.
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>>574806175
Is not, is no different than stacking attack or other stats in other game, is just there to fill and be "different" than the others.
Ragnarok just made it easier by changing attack mods to "cap mods" but it just the same.
if people get confused that's their fault.
Any game when it comes to damage give the player one question
>How to do more damage
It goes from leveling stats, like attack, int, strenght, etc, to modifiers like melee attacks, elemental, attacks or crit.
If you don't know how to read it you either research it or be a retard forever.
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>>574806541
I have an alternative to this that doesn't involve a bunch of grinding for maybe an extra couple terrible boss fights.

Just stop playing. Why bother when there is nothing harder to fight after them anyways?
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Which character got the best upgrade from master traits, and which got the worst?
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>>574806821
Why are you even here? Fuck off, retard.
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>>574806918
Eugens a bit interesting but they destroyed his normal playstyle, he doesn't have one that's just "base Eugen+" like everybody else
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>>574806918
Oh? Are you implying Ferry got any good stuff in the expansion? I always liked her design but she felt very weak and even support wise was outclassed by other characters. At least offensively, anyways.
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>>574805956
Zero is unironically harder.
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>seofon ramped so hard after the quest finished, it killed the lobby
he does it again..
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>>574807049
you can just not leverage his master traits at all and still be a damage pumping machine gun.
the one that adds an extra hit to his charged shot actually makes him do less damage and all his skills that have a charge up do less damage than if you just sat there continuing to shoot.
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Your lobby? Crashed.
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>>574807191
Truly the king of holding back
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>>574807191
i thought my internet shitting itself again...
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>Berserk Echo + Stun Power

NO NO no no no. Give. Me. Normal. Cap. Up.
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infinite roulette lobby 3/4

SEM3 UNA5 GR5M 5LDM
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>>574807371
they can't come with dmg cap
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>>574807471
normal attack damage cap up
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As a Maggie player I appreciate Cog players because they get me a maxed out shield constantly which equates to max damage out the box
Phantasmagoria is also a loaded buff
Caduceus + Rhizomata also means that nobody is eating the floor forever
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>>574807882
>Caduceus + Rhizomata also means that nobody is eating the floor forever
ENTER
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>>574795381
I'm using this and I don't care
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>>574807882
>Caduceus + Rhizomata also means that nobody is eating the floor forever
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>>574807992
Entering Beatrix.
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>>574807465
4/4 now
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>>574806137
You're welcome. Also, I forgot to mention that waiting for Kyokasuigetsu's cooldown depends on having quick cooldown and cascade. Otherwise you might as well just dump Setsuna > Transient > Kyokasuigetsu. This also only applies to bosses. Dawnfly charge counters destroy horde quests and conflux, though that's still just pressing X.

>>574806676
Everyone says this.
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>>574807992
I just tried Beatrix in Infinity Bubs last night (offline, no support characters, Terminus, 150k HP), never blocked or dodged once, and literally could not die. How does anyone floortank with her.
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>>574801175
???
Explain
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I like to play dps cag
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>>574808410
They don’t build enough defense and sustain.
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>>574807118
you can play tank ferry on the summoner build since it has 98% damage reduction, can't be interrupted and has debuff immune. it has good stun, below average damage, some decent debuffs and is very easy to play

or you can play petless ferry which has to manage a 12 second burst window every 9 stacks for about average damage and much lower defenses
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>>574808505
Same. He might not be the the hardest hitter in the expansion but I refuse to be a healslut.
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>>574808554
>the thing every character is supposed to have
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>>574808661
Too bad the damage is bad. Also, playing chargeball gets old.
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>>574808594
>it has 98% damage reduction, can't be interrupted and has debuff immune
Okay I'm interested. Are those buffs party-wide or just for her? Share the build anon.
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MUH DARKFLAME
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>>574807992
Bea still owes me sex.
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DARKFLAME THE HEDGEHOG
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>>574808410
they're roleplaying as Bea by being fucking retarded
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>>574808776
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DvOT1SOOTLT0_A4RKNCFp7VERtCfILYHgTk-69Wygv8/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0#heading=h.mpd2ct1cvwk3
it's for her only
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I want them to hurry up and nerf feddy already so the metaslaves can play someone else.
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Where are the character mods
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>>574807118
Pet tree is actually pretty tanky, but has extremely low damage and no burst power when every endgame boss has a DPS check.
Petless tree is an attempt to restore the jump build but is actively handicapped by a burst damage window that can't be held and is easily sabotaged by bosses running around/becoming untargetable becuase she lacks movement options. Plus pressing any non-y button summons a pet so you have low uptime on all those petless bonuses you specced into.
Support tree is jumping through hoops for an RNG CHANCE at contributing party buffs, competing against Substitute tanks and Cag pressing one of two Phantasmagoria buttons.
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>>574809294
It's too late honestly. Most of the hardcore people are mostly done, or will be by the time she's nerfed. The damage has been done already.
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>>574809036
Based. Thank you, anon.
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>>574808989
That's exactly what I did though.
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>>574809524
no, you didn't do it right, because you probably had a functional build
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How much damage does an 100% summon REALLY add over a 50% summon in the grand scheme of things?
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>>574809317
sent ;)
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>>574809792
a lot if you have a little
a little if you have a lot
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>>574809792
A few percentage points on that attack type only.
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>>574809832
could it send it again i didnt get it
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is 293 stun on bea enough?
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>>574809317
Lewd stuff? Lovers Lab, Discord and a few are on Nexus.
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>>574809524
If you aren't defeated, then you aren't playing Bea canonically.
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ROOOOOOMS?!
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>>574809792
50 50
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>>574810203
Idk about Bea but it only felt comfortable around 320
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If Bea is so retarded, why did the organization give her such a powerful relic weapon?
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I dont believe 100% damage caps summons are real
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>>574810860
it's funny giving dumb bea powerful weapon
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is chaos++ bubs supposed to be really hard
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guys, the "while inflicted by poison 100%to dmg cap" master trait is when the ENEMY is poisoned right?
is it actually worth it to pick?
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>>574810860
I fully believe beatrix at most isnt retarded, just a brute
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>>574810895
please don't post this image it scares me
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>>574810860
Seal weapons only function when wielded by compatible users, and Embrasque in particular is conscious and likes its pet retard.
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>>574811216
lol
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If I were a sentient sword, I'd like my wielder to be a hot woman too retarded to be seduced and slut around.
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>>574811216
it's when you are poisoned. lol
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>Mage Aspiration + Cascade
My BOANER
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>>574796386
I'm sorry bro
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>>574811447
isnt it bad then? how many enemies manage to poison us?
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damn beas dodge skill kinda sucks. i thought u can just pop it whenever
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>>574811723
skellington does poison a lot

the issue is the poison actually does a lot of damage
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How many runs do I need to do to get a Spartan/War Elemental summon regardless of the substat? I think I'll get all 4 first so I can release some pressure from my sigils and then chase the perfect ones
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>i remember having FoF+ with low profile sub
>crux shield mag is gonna be awesome!
>try it in the world
>keeps getting hit from random ass fireballs and cracks on the ground
also do i just spam XY and pretend she is a longer melee char or i keep practicing for that terrible XXXY targetting?
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i may have fucked up and accidentally recycled my immortal shell. where do you get another one?
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>>574811216
They should've made one of those gimmick passives but for Darkflame, so you can blow up Versa faster
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>>574810895
That's a lotta bread.
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>>574812242
somewhere between one and infinity
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>>574812302
You can't get rid of it, it doesn't show up on the sigil list when you try to recycle stuff
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>>574812242
The drop isn't guaranteed and on top of that its only an 8% chance for the summon to have the echo skill. But thankfully its only level 15 so theres no way to get screwed
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>>574812536
oh then i guess i just didn't get it yet somehow.
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Is Infinity Luci that much worse than Chaos++? Chaos++ didn't feel that different from Zero
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>>574812265
If you can afford the sigil room, use Improved Dodge so FoF can trigger off the extended i-frame window and also Untouchable if you want extended range on the dodge.

Also you're better off learning that XXXY enhanced finisher so you can do X combos while it's locked on target. Just hold Y and let it fly forward a bit, then snap it back your direction when it's hitting the target.
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>>574813015
more things cause hp down
he pump fakes the second hit of the sword swing attack
the stun checks are harder
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>>574813015
They reintroduce mechanics to the fight and if you fuck them up the fight becomes permanently harder and/or you die
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>>574813015
He is tankier, so you spend more time with him.
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What's the "correct" skill loadout for heal cag?
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>>574813480
full on crabs
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>>574813480
irrumatio I mean rhizomata, the crit buff, and the heal
there's a mastery trait to turn the heal into purely shields, most people will run the no outside healing sigil but shields get around that
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anyone gotten berserker echo from the 4 dragons?
pretty sure ive done 100 of them and only seen stout twice and thats it
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Stout Heart doesn't feel like like its on the level as war elemental, berzerker echo and spartan echoes in any way.
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>>574813230
Chaos++ did have some of the labors but they felt easier ironically lol
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>HP Sigil is useless
>Atk Sigil is useless
>You reach 100% crit without any investment so Crit sigil is useless
>The best master trait in the game is the basic sigil trait
How did cygames fuck up this hard
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>>574813608
It's BiS for characters that want to mash their whole rotation in the Boss's face, it becomes trickier otherwise
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anyone know if steady focus works on gallanza spin
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>>574813608
it's the bis defensive sigil for melee
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>>574813769
Just their classic "if you want the good stuff you HAVE to use the garbage too lol"
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It's interesting that this game has simultaneously good and bad netcode, in the sense that it has "good" netcode where it isn't really felt at all in the context of combat, but it has terrible netcode in the stuff that SHOULD be easy like instituting a basic connection timeout as opposed to making you wait literally infinitely if you try to connect to a host that's no longer there.
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YOU CAN'T MAKE ME DO ANOTHER 100 RUNS FOR A POSSIBLE 100% SKILL CAP UP
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>>574810860
Embrasque chose her, yeah her sword is actually sentient, can change form and eat cakes. Embrasque has ability to devour causality, so the more miserable Beatrix is in battles, the more powerful it will be until Beatrix defeat her enemies.
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>>574813769
It's not a mistake but probably a bandaid fix to the bosses being ludicrously tanky in the stun department
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Old men are the future.
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>>574814018
this should be guaranteed at 200
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>>574813180
>he pump fakes the second hit of the sword swing attack
I hate this shit more than anything else in the fight. I wanted to parry/counter skill against and he just delayed it until my skill ran out and smacked the fuck out of me. I didn't even know he could delay it that long.
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they should've added all of the 6 dragons as playable characters
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>>574814018
your greed sickens me, explode faggot
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So this is life as support Cag, huh...
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>>574814018
what this chaos++ or infinite?
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>>574814237
Holy shit. A Gallanza.
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>>574814164
gamer tip: wait for the flash, and then dodge or whatever.
gamer tip 2: the longer he takes to do the flash, the faster the it'll be between the flash and the slash, if it looks suspicious be ready to pre-emptively dodge
gamer tip 3: you can also just avoid it by jumping and stalling at max height with an air combo
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>>574814153
Sorry bro, cygames is a spark gacha, not a guaranteed pity. You'll need 300 runs to trade for your spark target.
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>>574814237
Gallanza chads mogging the competition.
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>>574814179
There'd be a major overlap issue. Wilnas is literally just Ghanza but with more claw swipes. Lu Woh would be flowery seven spam, and the other two are 2 feet tall at best
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>>574814237
>gallanza 1.2b
what the fuck
have I been building mine wrong?
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>>574814179
Only if Ewiyar gets an actual character and not a fugly fat cat. Biggest disappointment of their reveal. The fact they doubled down still pisses me off.
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>>574814028
wait how does embrasque look like when it's eating cakes? is it also a hot girl?
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>>574813123
its nimble onslaught the one that gives more iframes, swapped autorevive for that
i forgot untouchable exists but idk what to drop, on paper i can drop guts too since i'm kinda tanky with stronghold+stout+steel nerves combo but some bs can just happens in infi
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>>574814237
we get it you're shit but give us details on that gallanza
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Doing more infinity bubs, 1/4

SID: Y0AM S5B4 V5MS DWGD
PW: nigga
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>>574814527
No, it's still a sword. It also only has 0,04% chance to turn into Automagod form
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>>574814279
Infinity, I don't know if chaos++ can even get above 50%.
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>>574814237
OUGI
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>>574814527
Seal weapons are the "core" of Automagods like Pyet-A, essentially biomachines from the moon. They use moon magic to build a full machine body when turning into their full form.
We've only seen what Grynoth (Vaseraga's seal weapon) looks like, it's the black one here, but Cygames kinda backpedalled a bit on it and said that most other Seal weapons are already "tapped out" and can't transform anymore.
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>>574814939
2/4
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>After reaching The World I'm just consistently getting only like 30% of the score my best teammates on pubs are getting at best
Does Seofon just suck? I get that I'm going against Fediels so I obviously shouldn't be getting MVPs to begin with but even against Narmayas and Frauxs, Even if I do a fucking perfect infinito creare that lasts almost an entire fucking minute I still just end up not even doing half of that these characters are doing by the end of the fight
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>>574815249
4/4, full
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>>574815135
Weapons to surpass Metal Gear
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>>574814028
So can Bea defeat Zeta, Vaseraga, Eustace and Ilsa in lore?
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>>574815390
cmon man
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>>574815135
Arianensa is literally there in your picture
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I like to do Infinity The World on "bad" characters but with perfect gear (that's still legal) I obtained through cheat engine just to make parsers shit their pants in anger.
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I've decided to keep using sieg's crux style even if it can be tough to just fucking explode for other people in one frame sometimes. I WILL protect you, asshole.
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>>574815252
He deals low damage but good stun, he is also nimble and tanky
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>trying to do bestial earth to try to get some mats for beatrix's weapons
>people hugging the floor nonstop throughout the fight, fail before I can even get it to 50%, happens 3 times in a row
what the fuck, it wasn't this bad when I was progressing
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>>574815678
I completely forgot Gwyne existed or that she used Arianensa
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>>574815845
The bestial missions are genuinely some of the hardest missions in the DLC. They're just one of those progression walls. However I think the fire one is much worse because most people don't run fire resistance and just spend the entire fight burning.
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>>574815252
If you're not ML50, you're not beating characters that are.
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>>574815678
No one remembers Gwynne.
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>get matched with a chink neechang in World
>perfect block every single attack he does, not just the Quickenings and gain SBA 3x faster than anyone else
Awfully suspicious.
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>>574816242
I remember her every Water GW for my 0B...
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>>574816469
the autoblock scripts have pretty much been perfected now so yeah
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You think you're tough? You got S++ ranks on all the Infinite fights eh? If you're a gamer, I dare you to go back into this quest, with 1 AI companion at maximum. You're gonna get gobbed, let us know how it goes.
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>>574816469
why bother playing at that point
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>>574796386
What does this mean every cag tree runs buff and shield except maybe crippling. Super collaspe > Cripping > Alchemic if a actual human is piloting
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>>574816469
i just run it down and suicide the moment i see it in action, it's funny when they leave but i wonder if one of them will toggle a one shot on the boss at some point
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Best I've gotten from Lucy is Berserk Echo w/ 50% Skill Cap. Is it possible to get Normal Cap?
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>>574816825
100% normal cap, even
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>>574815135
everything about the seal weapons sounds cool, i know nothing about the lore aside from few tidbits in rising/relink
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>Crab Sigil have caught on in China, Japan, (HERE)
>Reddit STILL saying it's not worth it
Holy fuck how retarded are they?
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>>574813769
>image
She looks like she could use a nice soak
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>>574816920
the chinks used it first. I'm surprised the crab shilling rentry hasn't been posted on r*ddit yet
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can u get a + of this?
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>>574816920
they only use dummy parses, and disregard actual fight data
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>>574815491
Lorewise? No, cuz they have no reason to fight so it will never happen. Logically? Yes, if they somehow agree to fight to the death 1 on 1 in open space.
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Sir Garrold is the worst training dummy ever and the second my camera got stuck on the wall I knew i wasnt ever gonna get any relevant info out if it
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>>574817062
But it's still a noticeable increase even on dummy parses
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>>574817034
Let them stay filtered, and insist that running Celestial Incendo gives more returns on investment somehow
(Yes that was an actual "counterargument" I heard from there).



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