The Nightmare is ongoing...>>574771630>Galactic News Networkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU6MQmwVbvM>Season 4 Dev noteshttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/EN/view/14048795>FEI (NEW) Character PVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg1JEEPglEM>Current Featured Banner - [Fei]Rate-Up Period: 07/08/2026 after the maintenance – 07/29/2026 before the maintenance>Useful Links and ResourcesNew players guide: https://renoa-love.org/https://rentry.org/zfskhx9hhttps://rentry.org/xtb66f3ihttps://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatanthttps://cznmetadecks.com/encounters>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?https://rentry.co/cznsavedata/>Deckbuildershttps://cznmetadecks.com/buildhttps://czn-save-cal.web.app/
remember to ignore the "hey i'm new! oh is this the game that has owen in it?" poster!
Summary to all new and returning players>mixed toilet>you roll on girls and they all have female (((partners)))>every other season trailer is lezbain shiee>heidemarie more like dykemarie>fucks her secretary and hugs her in the trailer>yuki? more like dykie>fucks amir, moves in with her and adopts a daughter together, adel, and tries to get you to finance their lesbain life>fei? more like chink friendzones you per chat and fucks and hugs her pink gf she never shuts up about>(you) are bisexual, wear a vagina hat and bring lesbanes togetherThis is current CZN.
>>574849676She's hot, is this gacha any good these days?Wait Is this that one gacha where the devs nerf seasonal decks and give fuck all compensation? What the hell was that and whatever happened with that, did the chinks send the truck? Anyone can get me up to speed?
New shithole for pajeet
>AlternativeSWdub3JlIHRoZSBqZWV0IHRoYXQgc2FtZWZhZ3MgdG8gcHJvbW90ZSB0aGUgYWx0Y2hhbiBib2FyZCBoZSBtb2RlcmF0ZXM=Search base64, copy paste above and click on decode
>>574849785>>574849841>>574849874
off to a good start, i see
this game is so good and the nerfs are justified, why is everyone here so negative?
>>574849841>Anyone can get me up to speed?Ok so basically it went down ike this;>devs announce they will brick all of s3 content, give no limited pulls in compensation, and the only buffs they put out were for whale egos>japs hate the nerfs>r*ddit hates the nerfs>youtube hates the nerfs>X hates the nerfs>discord hates the nerfs>gooks hate the nerfs>chinks hate the nerfs>/czn/ hates the nerfs>the hopëjeets all defend the nerfs, say smile gook knows best>everyone bodies them in the thread>they start seething and begin trying to migrate the general to 8, where the hopejëet is a janny and can delete smilegook criticism>nobody falls for it>endless seethe and damage control continuesThat's basically the gist of it so far.
You will still play the game. They will still play the game. I will still play the game. WE will still play the game.
>>574850149>that imageKEK
aHR0cHM6Ly84Y2hhbi5tb2UvZ2FjaGEvcmVzLzIwMzc0ODQuaHRtbA==Here's the secret club for non-schizophrenic people lads
Kanchou, are you sure this is how the counseling usually goes?
>>574850149This kills the Runjabitch.
>>574849938>>574850285Incoming the retard that tried to avoid filters last thread sperging out about people not reading his shitposts
>>574849938>bait codedon't fall for the shitposter's codeuse this:Y29tZSB0byA4Y2hhbi5tb2UsIHdlIGRvbid0IGhhdmUgbWFueSBjdXRpZXMgKGFib3V0IDMpIGJ1dCB0aGVyZSBpcyBubyBjcml0aWNzbSBvciBuZWdhdGl2aXR5IGFuZCB3ZSBjYW4gY2lyY2xlamVyayA6RCBhYm91dCBob3cgbXVjaCB3ZSBsb3ZlIHRoaXMgZ2FtZSA6Mwo=Search base64, copy paste above and click on decode
>>574850347Yes, it is. You had sex partners prior to me so why are you acting all dumb about it??
whens hilde stream?????
WaitIs Fei dyke?
Use this and don't fall for the shitposter's codesd2UgbmVlZCBtb3JlIGdheSBjdXRpZXMgaW4gdGhlIDhjaC5tb2UgdGhyZWFkIDozIGNvbWUgRVJQIHdpdGggdXMgd2UgbW9kZXJhdGUgdGhlIGN6biBnZW5lcmFsIHRoZXJlIQ==
>>574850580always has been.
>>574850132Wrong general rajeshPost this on 8
>>574850626>Waifufag doesn't spend>Dev have to pander to yuritroonGRIM
If anyone wants to get away from these shitposters, decode this in base64Y29tZSB0byA4Y2hhbi5tb2UsIHdlIGhhdmUgZ2F5IEVSUCBhbmQgZm9ybSBzbWlsZWdhdGUgZGVmZW5zZSBpenphdCBmYXJtaW5nIHJhaWRz
Why are you promoting your faggot site here? None will fall for it runjabitch. Spread your agenda in discord or reddit ffs!
I found that board by Googling so I'm sure anyone with half a brain can do the same.
different person btw
that hugo e4 change is nice. hope I get the dog soon but maybe hilde is the hugo powercreep.
>>574851089> maybe hilde is the hugo powercreep.I have e1 dog but the seething would be worth it.
>>574851089One way to find out.
>>574851169
Why chaos cult's sex slave pretending to be idol?
>>574851410That's every idol ever.
>>574850580Don't tell me you spent on censored chink cuck bait?
are (You) resetting orlea? i'm probably going to just because i don't use her like ever
>AAAAAAAAIIIIEEEEE PLEASE JOIN MY HUGBOX I WILL SUCK YOUR PPThis is embarrassing makoto fagsI am joining Junko team
>>574851598Get a real job.
>>574851753[-]
I checked and there's someone over there posting BLACKED gay porn lmao
>>574851797since yesterday too, the jeets are too mindbroken they have to open their gay porn gif vault
>>574851797The jannies there actually work so it gets cleaned up pretty fast, wish I could say the same here.
>>574851797First time interacting with the /zzz/ schizo?
>>574851937thanks, 8 janny and also totally not the shitposter we have
>>574851797tourist herebut why would anyone shitposting on 8there actually human admin and not like like this shit showthe only problem of 8 is sometimes it too boringfunfact, 8 ban pajeets ipthose indiadog should get slaved like a pig
>>574852097WAIT8 BANS INDIAN IP? AHAHAHAHHAA SO THATS WHY THEY DONT MIGRATE HAHAHAHAHAHA HOPEJEETS NOOOOOOO YOU ARE STUCK HERE AHHAHAHAHAH
>>574851937It's still up though? the jannies only delete the gay porn if it's not spoiled apparentlyhe even pointed it out and the guy posted it again, as long as its spoiled you can post whatever you want in that shithole
>>574852157>i think they deserve a word of thanks for thatLMAO the hopejeets are literally fellating their fellow jeet jannys for enabling their gay porn circlejerk
>>574852097other tourist hereis real
>>574852157>you can post porn here, just make sure to spoiler it. As long as its behind spoilers, the mods here won't give a shitKEK nice refuge you have there hopejeets
These threads are worse than Hoyo's...
>SEA folks making fun of Indians because their skin is brown????? Have you looked at mirrors?
>>574852689at least seatard didn't eat cow poop like an ice cream
>>574852689SEAfrens are unironically better than Indian hopejeet scum.
>>574849676Mika...Dorothy....Remielle...
>>574852097>8 bans jetsFr? Damn might migrate to there
>>574852827It's IP based but we all know most jeets are posting from white countries these days
>>574851635I'm uninstalling the gameWhy bother farming deck if they can kill in anytime they want
I uninstalled yesterday, I'll do it again today, and of course tomorrow.
>>574853226Just like migrating to 8, huh?
>>574852157I don't see it
>>574853426>damage controlKEK hopejeets are shameless
>>574853295kek bodied that ironic jeet
>>574851598>>574850975>DeletedMeans the rest is on topic?
>>574855825i got all the sisters and now i'm working on egoing serithea to full
>>574856953I also got them all but I'll get multiple Nyx now
>>574857013oooh nyx is good too! the buff she gives to all alies is pretty nice, i have more use for serithea rn personally
>>574856953you got nothing incelfreak
>>574857237ToT
>>574857417post your rl now, incelfreak
>>574856953Same but the other way around, maed Serithea first,
ohh tiphera is the sortie combatant, seems good because she gives you shields and crit chance
>>574857083Yeah Nyx is bis on Rei, Cassius, Mika, Nia and probably other 4*s too
>>574857475*maxed
I'm a Nyx man myself.
>>574857579dragon faction season when...
>>574857951olga seems relatively connected to the dragons
remember that owen felt renoa nipples while carrying her on his back
HDMI...forgotten
>>574859732Good.As all limited should.They are just temporary powerup and become bricks once their season ends.
Yeah, I'm winning
YUKI!!
I run this general
I want to roll for Hitler already.
>>574860120>not using loli suenigga why am i teaching you
Who do gacha players think of NTR when they see men in their games?
>>574860626They don't, it's unique debuff for cuckzn players
>>574860626it's mostly commonplace in east asia
She can still save the game... just let her do it...
>>574861293>dragonpartner jail
I remember playing Epic7 back in 2019 and 2020. There were numerous amount of men in the game but nobody chimp out about NTR.What changed?
>>574861293>cow titsyawn
>>574861483>cow titsdragon tits*
the lack of men is killing this game btw
>>574861293Not even tenebruh can do it.What made you think luna could save czn?
>>5748614713rd world countries got better internet access.
>>574861563Game is dead because of 1 boy.Thou i wish they add more male to kill game faster
>>574861731The POC for >>574861689Amazing.
comfy ass thread
>zero male banner since launch>somehow this is not a problem
>>574861793you sound quite upset actually
>>574861760E7 is not using self insert mc, the shipfaggoting works in that game.Thou i don't expect much from indian either
>>574861793defeated filterjeet hahahahasoon you wills see nothing
>>574861793Want attention that your single parent never give?move to 8 already
game needs to introduce sex as a plot device to empower agents. Like azur lane, last origin, etcSimple as
>>574861793You're pathetic. Just move to your hugbox already, faggot
Holy shit
>>574862079>leave so I can shitpost in peaceNot your hugbox.
can someone link the other thread without all the indians and other shitskins spamming nonstop?I lost the link
>>574862263looooool
>>574862547Funnily enough posting links to the other chan is not against the rules but it is the only thing that got banned in this thread while half the thread is clearly against the rules.
>>574862839cry about it
>>574862547“Eight”chan dot moe
>>574863026Don't care, it's just funny and really pathetic bwo
>>574862035while keeping owen in your team?dream on
>>574863304fate can do it while having boysluts like astolfo, lanling and nemo in the gameJust make them lust for you as well
>>574862839It’s because the schizo hurts the discussion but alts actually financially hurt 4chan since the reduced influx mean reduced ad revenue.The mods instead of dealing with the issues that cause people to go there prefer to ban people for it, encouraging people to do there.Lately there has been an increase there in multiple generals, so both the schizo and the mods are getting desperate with less people here
>>574863421>fateEvery servant sexually abuses you anon, you want that to happen in czn too?We don't even have female main char
>>574863469I mean its no real surprise people are leaving if you open a thread and it's just a couple shitskins spamming and talking about how much they hate the game and how their ultimate goal is to kill gacha threads
what killed the hype
>>574863469Mods are just normal people like us and I do not think they are paid. They probably just do not care, still banning the mention or link to the other chan is funny
>>574863662Game is thriving thanks to the upcoming rebalance changes.Doomjeets need to work overtime to stifle the massive hype.
What is this Owen stuff about? Did they erase him from the game?
>Mods are just normal people like usI don't think "normal people" would go on such insane powertrips that a whole other site needs to be made because they actively enjoy seeing /vg/ be such a putrid pile of shit
>>574863664>Mods are just normal people like usbro i don't know how to tell you this but fbi/cia unironically bought 4chan off of moot because the oldfags before us were trolling too hard, why do you think raids are now verboten
>>574863664And like normal people, there are a few that "care" too much.
>>574863834You need to move to 8 if you wanna spread your agenda and anus
>>574863916>why do you think raids are now verbotenraids still happen every day its just generals raiding each other rather than raiding other sitesthe days of 4chan being the deep dark corner of the internet is long gone now its more like a daycare for autistic shits and other unwanted dregs of society
epstein site, epstein mods, epstein users
>>574863962>and anusalright you convinced me
Serious question: why are brown 3rd worlders so unbelievably terrible at making memes?
How is the waifu pandering in this game? Is it all platonic?
>>574863469i dont understand your kind. discord and reddit is a perfect place for you and shares exactt he same values with you. why are you insisting on being here and trying to turn 4chink into another discord instead of just being on discord? fucking pests
>>574864031>epstein usersbro i wish i was a gazillionaire ghost living in israelactually no i still have some respect for other humans
https://poal.me/5pf0qlhttps://poal.me/5pf0qlhttps://poal.me/5pf0qlLETS SETTLE THISARE YOU OKAY WITH THE CZN NERFS, YES OR NO?
>>574864031>epstein usersthere's loli shit in the other chans main thread
>>574864029keep crying
>>574864086>Is it all platonic?yes
>>574864076>Talk as if gacha players can make memeBeing chink, gook or even german's horse cock cleaner doesn't have anything to do with making terrible meme. Gacha players are simply retarded.Like you defended the censorship and nerf
>>574863892>>574863916>>574863960Yeah that's what is included in being a normal person, they sperg out and care more about specific things they like. And no one of them cares about CZN or moderating this trash, at least in a positive way. Maybe one or two of them are in the schizos discords and works with them even.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OC1tJ2VzO0CZN for this feel?
>>574864170Wait a minute...
>>574864450>guitarrockgamingWhy indian loves faggot youtuber??
>>574864450Hugo, gay and dog in one
>>574864450least obvious self promotion
>>574850149> expecting Smilegate to not be greedy, incompetent cunts
>>574864450>Arknights Enfield does this better
>somehow hoyo's greed is not as bad as smilegook
>>574863469>i can't handle 4chan, so I'll go to r*ddit with a 4chan skin: the post
>>574864950Morimens was always the better game, but retards in this general can't face the truth.
>>574865154He always was
Tiphera isn't so good in sortie.
This game won't survive Miresei, Kaleidorider, Astrae Oratio and Silver Palace
>>574864950sell me on morimens. is it as great of a deckbuilder as the shills say? how's the daily routine at endgame?
>>574865504Healing/shielding is punished in HC80, as you know. Little wonder she's hard to use.
>>574865442Can't wait to see smilegook's retarded writing and make hilde mid in story later
>>574850149good thing i haven't played since season 2
>>574865990Yeah such a good game man. Tell me how your Season 1 builds are doing in Season 2. Or how many dupes you need to make your carry not suck ass.Fucking Morimens shills. And this is before the obvious lies about teambuilding. You can go mono or Chaos + Aeqor/Caro. Ultra has been shit forever. Less so now but still bad.
>>574852689Unlike Indians, SEAmonkeys practice hygiene
>>574866624kek bodied that jeet
>>574866978Killing myself because this isnt me
>>574865504Tiphera's best card for sortie is not a starter card so you might get fucked up on the very beginning.
>>574865602I played a bit like a year or maybe more agoIf you think czn has balance problems, bad characters like yuki, you are not prepared for morimens balancing where like 50% of the roster are utterly pathetic, between completely and utterly eclipsed and totally unusableAnd then the season rules NERF them so they're even more patheticPlus an entire element (1/4 of the roster) that guidemakers recommended never touching or rolling onNot sure how it is now but at least back then it was pathetic and I don't imagine a team that made that to be capable of improving
>>574865535>MireseiSG slop>Kaleidoridershit autobattler>Astrae OratioHSR but cunny>Silver Palaceopen world slop
Release her
>>574867560>HSR but cunny
>>574867385bootleg nikke
>>574867385>just straight up ripping off narutoembarrassing.
>>574866785Ofc I am sub 300 d-tide you quadruple nigger, falling for "Morimens is good" bait was such a waste of my time. Even more so after CZN came out so at least the animations and playing cards feel smooth
>>574867560Miresi is also an autobattler btw. It looks mediocre as hell even for Smilegate standards and that is one hell of a statement.
I fucking love autobattles...
it is 10pm in Korea and they did not post an update on the situation.I do not think they should tank this.
>>574868748I'll give them another 3 days before they make a PR statement that says basically nothing before shoving 10 blue anchors in our face
>>574868748They probably think the S4 mechanics will save this. They really need to move the stream up instead of letting it brew for a week.
>>574868748>it is 10pm in KoreaAh that explains the increased shitposting frequency.Guess the shift in Samsung ended.
>>574868867Obviously not. They see that S4 skills are nowhere near as good hence the nerfs. Don't give a damn personally, I fucking hated Engraving hunting.
>>574868978kek bodied that hopejeet
>>574865602morimens is actually harder
>>574867781Here's your Euphina, John Smilegate made her lose some weight.
>>574869970Nice.I requested more characters without cow tits.
>>574863853No and if anything he's the real main character you should self insert as instead of the loser protagonist.
[Good news] The nerf didn't stop the japbros from being excited for Hilde's ass
I hope they give us a selector and like 30 pulls as an apology
>>574875028sigh*buys 100 dollars worth of pulls*
>>574876842The miresei devs thank you for that $100
>>574879008Control9 has nothing to do with supercreative I'm afraidYou mean publisher
>>574879427They are boths from Smile Gate stupid hopejeet
>>574880154Learn how to use google, you stupid freak
>>574881328>p-please come to the other place, it's getting lively...we have a new poster now to make a total of 3!!kek hopejeet is getting desperate now
>>574881562Thanks for corfirming you're retarded
>>574881328>it's over fellow hopejeets...they won... the doomCHADS mogged us to death....we can't show our faces on 4chan anymore...retreat to the dead circlejerk on the other r*ddit-lite forumNever seen someone so buckbroken, well not since the CZN director apology stream over Owen
>>574881562bro is unemployed
>>574882630Control9 is not a subsidiary of smilegateIts not how it works in the real world sweetieI know schizophrenia is tough business but you gotta know basic stuffI can teach you, sit here with me and lets talk about what is troubling you
As far as development goes, both teams are completely disconnected. But smilegate can use the money on miresi for advertising of courseThat game will be DoA imo, the character designer is niche and the gameplay looks like complete ass
>>574883219Smilegate is the project sponsor and will handle global localization, as well as the servers and advertising. all of this money comes from established projects like CZN and E7.If Miresi is successful, it will continue to absorb resources from the main branch (smilegate) like kuro and shift up absorb from tencent because of wuwa/nikke
>>574884376Gonna poop your pants again cutie? Show me that gay porn stash
>>574884681nyo I can post here and there. if anything making fun of mentally ill people is pretty amusing
What the fuck are mods doing?
>>574887217defeated hopejeet has to use filters to hide hahahaha
>>574887217/vg/ is done for anon, a lot of threads are just schizo dens
>>574887217Chuddie needs attention since his single gay father didnt give anymove to 8 if your insecure
the Narja e6 buff is huge 4 veracity and 2 predation a turn seems nuts as you no longer need to rely on drawing certain cards to keep veracity up. On one hand, I hope they buff more E6 to make them useful or cool, but on the other hand, it might make it feel like you need to E6 a character for it to really pop off, or they might balance bosses around E6, which would be bad.
>>574887217You should just turn off stubs. Completely free yourself.
Amusing to see the browns sperg out whenever an anon posts a filter pic. Like clockwork atp.
are we all prefarming for Hilde??
>>574888398i am but i have a bad feeling that she will be horrible
>>574888398Only after clearing Sortie shop for me. Mutation cores can be safely skipped since it's going to have infinite stock next patch, but I gotta get other things first.
>>574888398yes. do you have the picture with how much resources are needed to farm?
>>574890012just change the colors to yellow
>>574890404thank you
>>574890404instructions unclear, my HDMI is now in mexico
>>574891052perfect
now that the dust has settled on the nerfswho won?who lost?
>the other thread is already way faster than this one Huh
>>574892163I don't think this is about thread speed bwo
>>574890910kek
>>574892163wow turns out people actually want to discuss chaos zero nightmare without the endless schizo spam!! imagine that!!!
>>574892163>discussing tranime and vtubersthey can stay there
>>574893771This is an anime girl and it already got a vtuber collab lil' broJust a matter of time until it gets anime collabs
>>574892271This. We want basically reddit with a 4chan skin, with no criticism of the game and only praise. Anything that resembles shitposting hurts our balding 40 year old millennial feelings, so we run away to our safe haven circlejerk when anything that we don't like gets banned by community jannies instantly. Just like how our countries are being invaded and conquered by droves those with a darker skin color, we are too scared to stand our ground and fight back, and would hide and pretend it's not happening. So if we see anything on 4chan we don't like, we run away to our safespace and pretend 4chan doesn't exist.
>entire wall of text seething that it got banned on sight
>>574892163>3 IDs>2 posts by the same persondamn all 3 of you must be having such a riveting discussion
The irony of complaining about safespaces when the only reason you shitpost here is because everywhere else people will laugh at you
>>574891209Who knowsWe don't discuss the game on 4chan anymore
>>574894598KEK BODIED THE DEFEATED H0PEJEET
>>574894817I don't even know why you bother after the hack revealed that the mod team are just a bunch of hacks to begin with.
>>574894678I'm still laughing here though?Retard is actually seething mad that people don't have to suffer his bullshit anymore>NOOOOO HOW DARE YOU RUN AWAY FUCKING REDDITOR STAY HERE AND EAT MY SHIT LIKE A TRUE 4CHANNER!!!!!!
>a singular doom.jeet managed to chase away the entire generalkek indians are too powerful, or perhaps it's that hope.jeets are too pathetic?
>>574895258There's like barely anything to discuss>buffs so underwhelming the nerfs overshadow them>Still waiting for new info on S4>Pre-season so nothing to discuss about gameplayJust let the autobumpers do their job till s4 stream or apology dogeza stream.
lmao its trying to avoid filters
>go to bed>wake up>do work>eat lunch>get on 4chan>literally the same shit flinging from the night beforeGoddamn is there literally nothing else to talk about?
>>574896250it's a vicious cycle since people are less interested in discussing new things when its nonstop spam
>>574896250What's there to talk??>dev can kill your save data anytime they want>story rewrite has worse quality than snowbreak>the artwork and cg look ass
why do all the ganes i enjoy always eos or slowly diefirst morimensthen snowbreakthen eversoulthen shadowverse ogand now czn
>>574897918Card games just aren't as popular, you should try to get into other genres.
>>574897918All but one are playable tho?
>>574897918blame hope.jeets for sucking Smile Gate cock
> Continue trying to avoid filtersThe filter is working and no one is actually interacting with it so it's getting desperate.
It's incredible that a single schizo killed a whole /czn/
>>574899703You know the guy is a retard when he doesn’t even know how filters work
>okay, we need a topic to revive this thread and it has to be about the game.let's talk about how owen was able to feel renoa tits while carrying her on his back. it's possible renoa wasn't wearing a bra and owen felt her nipples. that's my theory. thoughts
Man, I'm glad I dropped this in Season 2 looking at this thread.
ngl I kinda feel bad for the retard talking to himself while everyone is on 8 so here is a bump
STELLA SORA WON
Watching the AI handle spiral tower makes me laugh, it keeps wasting ADHD draws on the most retarded shit
>constantly tell people that if they hate the shitposting then they should move while seething about the game's existence>they do>there's no one to shitpost at now so it has to find a new thread to hauntwas this all part of your master plan
CN is getting the same nerfs as us except that they're in the middle of season 3.
>>574894598lmaooo
damn thats a lot of seethe
>>574891052but how is she going to play? like what's her cards do?
>>574867385what's the gameplay like
>>574914637who the fuck knows, theres no leaks or anything so we just have to wait until the stream
we are about to enter seahours prepare thyself
you can finally spam to yourself and talk to yourself like you always wanted now that everyone left to where you can't reach them, isn't that great?
best girl
My diaper is full
>he says as he was permanently blocked on the spot and all his shitpost erased as the VPN did nothing to protect himLmao
>>574916187you cant do shit bitch nigga, don't kid yourselfall you can do is cry on here and /vmg/ about how people are playing the game you don't like like a good little cuck
actual cuck here don't compare me to domjeet
>gets banned several times>goes to cry in /vmg/ about it>heh, you're only safe because I want you to kiddo/czn/ might have the cringiest schizo of all /vg/
>>574916420>>574916526well, good then. hop back to 8, why are you still here? you will miss the ..pfft...game discussion..
>>574916967How's your starving dog, Anshul? I'm very concerned about it. Just tell me how many posts I need to make on the alt for you to get paid.Also make sure to record the dog and pretend you're saving it. That shit gives mad cash on youtube, and it could help balance your scam call center gig.
>>574915302>perceived enemy was on your side all alongIf he saves /czn/ i will kneel. The faster these hopejeet r*dditors are gone the better. Maybe this is what /lcg/ should have done.
>>574917187lmfao, he will never recover, brace yourself for a bunch of seething posts calling you runjabitch
>>574917413>runjabitchTOP KEK is this what they call Hopejeets now? Gotta remember that.
>get called Anshul>lose your shit
>>574917413>runjabitch
Please guys, I beg you! Move over to the altchan. I get paid one hundredth of a cent for new traffic! that's way more than my 2025 yearly salary! Please have mercy on me
>>574918161We can also make a discord server if you like?
>>574918161Okay Anshul but make sure to post your paystubs later okay?
>did a sortie run>took yuki to start with>get magna>magna does more than Yuki for the first half>get Yuki geared out the ass>somtimes able to hit the chaos boss for 20% of his hp in one attack and sometimes does fuck allyuki buffs when?
>>574918161Runjabitch you good? Need someone to look after you?
>>574918423The upcoming season is aoe season, in yooki we trust.
>>574918674Call me Anshul please.
>>574918290kek bodied that runjabitch
>>574919562>>574917330>>574916967>>574916187>>574915302samejeet
so is the pattern going to be flopped seasonal mechanics on even numbered seasons?>s1strong support-focused cards, one card interacts exceptionally well with any ways to move cards out of your hand without playing them.>s2has the potential to be strong, but has such harsh RNG that it's unfeasible to ever farm a good save with, and functionally impossible to get a perfect one.>s3so universally good and consistent enough that it had to get gutted.>s4desire cards are all universally complete and utter bricks, making them not worth adding to any character's save data... despite not costing memory.
Why is Owen x Rei such a cute couple?
I prefer Doomjeet x Cows since I hear cows are a sacred animal in his home country
>>574897918aether gazer also just EOS'd. at least horizon walker is still around
I've heard of avatarschizos but I've never heard of some schizo that needs to insert his favorite buzzword in every singular post he makes
>>574914987Sounds fun but the girls I've seen so far sadly don't appeal to me. They look too chunky and disproportionate like they are trying to appeal to the lunchtime rowdy and wigger crowd.
>Please move to this other place!!! I want you gone!!!! I'm trying to get rid of you!!!!>Nooooo don't take it too seriously and please stay here where I can shit on you for playing a game I hate!!!!which one is it anshul
I've enjoyed the 'runjabitch' episode as a little psychological exhibitHe seems to think it's a clever and scathing insult because when he came up with it he responded several times congratulating himselfI do wonder if this is how humour works in his mind, it's entirely a group consensus thing and now he's laughed at his own joke enough it's now meant to be funny
Can someone break down why people find "runjabitch" so funny? I don't get the joke.
>>574923396??????
>>574923183it'ss all shitpost babble that likely isnt even involving more than 2 or 3 people
>>574923183Its more than likely the same guy arguing with himself. Most of the time ive seen shitposting this rampant it turns out to be one guy.
There's actually only 1 person posting ITT besides me.
>>574923183It's all one person
/wizg/ /lcg/ /gig/ are herealright who else is here, speak up/czn/ somehow unironically the laughingstock of the town on any regular day
Who do you think will be good and bad in the new season?>Hildegood>Arabellagood-broken>Olgabad
>shitpost with stolen images of other raided generals>all of them are here!1!!
>Lowercasejeet pretending to be new or someone else
>>574923396>youSorry anon, not everyone's samefagging like you, some of us have been outside on this weekdayThis is your first reply to me today>googleI would guess that whoever knew of the name anshul knew it from an mma fighter, mma's a little popular with browns here but also some categories of white dudebro so I think there's a number that would know it
Runjabitches
>nerfs in a single player gamelolthe only thing scummier than this is when Cygames dumpstered Siete swords to force people into whaling for premium grids in granblue
>>574925065https://poal.me/lj7cx2You're supposed to post a poll with posts like that
>>574925483Or anything done by Cygames ever.
>>574925663sorry i meant>>574924873
>>574925663Incorrect
I'm starting to really dislike enemies taking their turn during your turn. I understand it's something you're supposed to play around, but honestly it barely adds anything since you just facetank it 99% of the time while constantly tripping up your combo.
>>574925507>no white man would nev->>i know several who probably do?>sh-shut up!You really should drop the based racist white man part of the act, it's a vulnerability that keeps showing itself as you don't actually know what white people are like
>>574926006It's part of the game, get used to it. Go play StS2 if you want your card spamming fix.
>no argument
>>574925483Ah, why you gotta remind me that
I accept your retardation.
>tagaloglanders>whites
i miss when we posted about tenebria supremacy, tiphera panties, and narja's blue milk
>>574927875Off season was a mistake, it has made us all go stark raving mad.
>>574927875Get to it then.
>>574927875What's stopping you?
>>574928083>>574928120rallying the troops is the most influential thing that i can do
>>574928148Saya collab could unironically save us. Honestly if that isn't what they are planning they are fools. It's the most thematically perfect option.
>>574928548Saya is literally niggerman, we're using child soldiers not eldritch monstrosities (Narja is an onahole, she doesn't count)
>>574928852not sure if nexon will be chill with hoshinigga getting her upper body melted down to her spinal cord on screen
>>574926175>Complains about gameplay mechanics>You don't play the game????
>>574897918Shit writing Delete the captain and make the game about people getting mind raped instead of shounen harem slop
>>574928548It's too graphic for %30 cheaper gayshit. Best they can do is another e7 collab or p5
>>574929619Game dies because they pander you rajun. Now they gotta pander to yurifags because you didn't pay them shit
f/k/m
>>574930207f/m/k
>>574930207m/k/f
disregarding the nerfs, was this patch REALLY supposed to be the ego manifestation balance sweep?all they did was tweak some numbers. they didnt address the fact that kayron gets significantly weaker against any hit count and retaliatory mechanics in exchange for dealing a spit of more damage.kayron is the obvious standout for a character who nigh objectively gets worse. but there are plenty of characters who have weirdly dysfunctional egomanifestations that need more than just numbers going up.
>>574930723Tbh i don't even know what to reply since they can't even fix yuki's ego skill.
>>574930723Didn't they fix that last patch, along with Tiphera's one, or is that something else?
Nice game, faggots. Chaos Zero bugs.
>>574931991Looks like a bonus feature if you ask me.
>>574931991Nine's about to spank Tiph's ass with the flat of her blade
>>574932396Tiphs ass can tank that.
>>574932396Is this the fabled toxic yuri dv?
thinking about how tiph's panties must get really wedged into her pussy and asshole during a long chaos expedition
>>574936113imagine peeling the sticky, stress sweat-soaked fabric clinging to every wrinkle of her anus and folds of her labia....
>>574931991>Team up attack cardsPut this in the game now
What the fuck happened to this game
>>574939216first preseason?
>>574930207c/z/n
I want to brainwash the devs into accepting that Owen is the true protagonist.
doombro, you’re not supposed to make it obvious that we’re the ones pushing the move
>>574930207speaking objectively, tiphera "deserves" to die the most, renoa would most likely be able to accept being a side piece, and tenebria wouldn't settle for anything other than absolute victory (wife status)
>>574941658What is the white mans general?
>>574941658well, guess that includes you.
>>574941658meant to post this in /hig/, /zzz/ and /hsrg/ my bad
narja milk? blue flavored.tenebria milk? cake flavored.tiphera milk? geometry flavored.renoa milk? time flavored.hilde milk? makes sunglasses appear on any container it's in (because it's cool).
>>574942916>renoa milk? time flavored.You misspelled Rita's milk.
>>574943169rita milk is ectoplasm flavored because she only exists as a weird time spirit
>>574942916>geometry flavoredwhat the fuck does a cube taste like
>>574943856roodypoo
>>574943718i imagine it's a real conceptual type of taste. the taste of the building blocks of the universe with a hint of mathiness.
>Announce nerfs, some understandable and some questionable>community begins breaking downI just got a video from a CZN youtube complaining about the nerfs. Are they REALLY that bad of an idea or is everyone just butt blasted they spent that much time grinding decks for them to get nerfed? Offhand, some didn't seem needed, but some stuff like infinite morale stacking seems a bit broken and it's more surprising it wasn't capped on release.
Hilde, Arabella and Olga will save us
>>574945243Most CZN CCs agree the nerfs were needed.Sure they should have balanced it before releasing season 3 but nerfing season 3 stuff is better than leaving it be and go down powercreep route like Flop Seven.
>literally on cooldownummmm, isn’t this spamming…?
who knew that tiph milk had this level of mindbreaking power
>>574945929Yeah but that literal faggot has been doing it since the patch notes released.
>>574928548Except Saya is a eldritch horror that causes insanity on observation except to the protagonist who had severe brai- oh wait... You're right, it's perfect!
>>574946097I was gonna ask if /vg/ was unmoderated but then I see this schizo spamming the same fucking post without consequence and was given my answer.
>>574947252Have you reported them? From my experience 4chan has always suffered from the bystander syndrome. Everyone thinks someone else will step in so they all just sit there and do nothing. There's no mods just lurking a dead general like this. It's only been a few minutes, just report it and it will get taken care of eventually.
>One of the most active generals>Dead
>>574947395it has been 30 minutes and trust me i can only say that announcing reports is against the rules
The bot seems to be broken.
i am honored to have somehow triggered such a meltie.geometry milk is more powerful than i could have imagined.
What in the mental illnessWhats the other place you guys said that theres moderation?
>whats>theres
>>574949098Uh oh, incoming moderation!
>>574949098thanks
>>574949098Oh so it's you fags raiding and advertising.Hoped it would die after a year.
>>574949406im afraid that if they were trying to prove a point, they're proving it quite well...
>>574949661Yeah but I will never use a reddit-lite site where generals last days and you have IDs serving as usernames.The circlejerks are insufferable.
>>574943718put me in the screenshot
>>574945243Infinite stacking won't work on rift or any endgame that requires you to beat boss for 10 turns, they could just ban dream world in new season but they gotta go full niggerblast, killing 90% save data
>>574945243Personas/engravings/toolbox were really out of the line. The only thing I don't like is that they waited until now to announce the nerfs, after people farming for an entire season.
doomjeets, this scatfag is your representative? lmao how fucking embarrassing
>>574945243those kind of games exist to make a gamebreaking combos and having fun with huge numbers and combos. that's basically 90% of all joy that you can get in card games. And that's why people enjoyed the game at release. But since then all that we see is nothing but nerfs and restrictions. Game is tanking every single month and with patches like this one it will only get worse
>>574951002>toolbox is out of linesg has conditioned us all too well into believing all armor should be completely fucking useless, i see.it was just +3 action count. in fights where action count seriously matters you just bring wanderer.
>>574849785Sounds great, too bad it only has some ugly dude as protagonist option.
>roguelike>not letting you build your own deck from roguelikeWhat's the point of making perfect save data? Just remove sortie and chaos at this point
>>574952345Toolbox is singlehandedly making Vanguard useless for me in tower. Most dps can kill each wave in a single turn but not before they got hit, but with 3 toolboxes on the team, you are pretty much guaranteed to finish your combo before getting hit.I agree that armors in general need to be better but I also think that toolbox is a single best piece of gear from S3 if you get it one the entire team.
>>574953014It's made to fight that retarded boss with 3 ap, they'd delete it the moment s3 endsSame thing'll happen to s4
Well that was fun.
Huh what the fuck happened
You have to love how this shithole gets hit by every chadposting style.
>It says with tears streaming down its face
>
>>574953690Meant for>>574954264
What about CZN that broke this blud so hard?
>>574954615The gameplay was too much for some gachatards.
>>574954615gameplay turned to shit and at the same time /czn/ as well.
>>574954615"India Not Available On Country SelectSo i am making an stove account to download epic seven on pc i try to make an account and it asks for the country when i check though the whole list i can't find india so... what am i supposed to do?"
>>574954512Something tells me that season 4 will be even worse. All this stuff feels like him warming up.
Looks like even enfield general is better than /czn/
>>574955071Sasuga Anshul
>>574953014i think it would help illustrate my point by mentioning torture toolbox is a vanilla item from blue pot.the literal only reason anyone ever started taking notice was because of engravings.
>>574954615People are envious of winners and success.
CZN won...the nothingburger cup
>>574955312DID THEY CENSOR HER PETTANKO WINDOW? AAAAAAAIIIEEEEEEEBut yes, /czn/ is the worst general on /vg/ right now and after /zzz/ the next most likely split to the alt chan. Even /bag/ just packed their bags and stayed there.
...which goes by another name known as the GIGACHADjeetminderbreaker award!
>>574945243I didn't care much because I barely play this game so I never farmed any good decksGlad it's the same for you guys
>>574955382I know, but getting Toolbox there before S3 was like grinding for Chains of Obsession in S1, or worse, because Toolbox wouldn't be as good without at least 2, preferably 3, on the same team.Another thing about toolbox is that it's op in harder floors of tower, which was relatively new.
>>574955725I'm never migrating runjaBITCH
well well well, looks like all the worst posts in the thread were the same guy after all
>>574955847I mean, cool. Then go back to r*ddit i guess?
>>574955887We've always known all the shitposters are just 2 doomjeets spamming and samefagging constantly.
*farts*nice thread /czn/iggers
>>574955887Some of those posts were actually nice, didn't think I was interacting with a full fledged schizo. What causes someone to have a meltdown like that geez.
>>574956021theres at least 3 i think but there's definitely a prolific single one who loves samefagging his scat-adjacent and cuck posts
>no threadfrens>no divegrass>hoyo taking a regular dump in here>various other threads do as well>dedicated schizo(s)>constant crying itt>good chunk are on that other siteIf this ain't a dying general of a dying game then i don't know what is. I've seen /e7g/ implode and that took way longer.
didn't ask ritapreet
>>574956387tiphera breast milk, as we have discovered.
Lol the doomjeet didn't take the purge well.
>>574956547shouldn't he be banned then?
>>574956620
>>574956620You would wish
>>574956718? if you get caught spamming you get a 3+ day ban. why else would they remove the spam but not give out a ban if the jannies hated (you) and this place?
>>574956861Nobody here knows if the schizo gets banned or not. But being the victim does feel nice
>>574956861
>>574956861I've seen people do worse and get warnings, you must be new or something.
>>574957021>>574957161maybe he does get banned but evades? why put all the blame on jannies?
>>574957202Wow, did you think all that by yourself?
>>574957307well, at least i did unlike these retards >>574956702>>574957021>>574957161you guys assume a lot but have no idea what's going on. and then call me retarded.
>>574957202>why put all the blame on jannies?NIGGA. They want you to use that other site and the "no moderation" spiel is their thing to get you to post over there. Since they have "the best moderation in the world".
now that the thread is clear i just wanted to express my love for tummybria. i just love how her outfit is designed to expose as much tummy as possible.
>>574957539Kill yourself, lowercase scatposter
Tummy goddess.
>>574957375Anonymity drives people a little crazy. They jump at shadows and see whatever they want to see in any post. They throw around terms like samefag not even imagining that more than one person could have a different opinion. If a thread goes to shit it must be the work of one boogeyman. Humans have a pathological need to make sense of the world. When we can't explain things we make up reasons.
Too lazy to read everything, get a summary of your shitposts on the scatfag
>>574957641>>574957758evil goddess tummybria is good too.something about our tummybria stirs something deep within me. perhaps it's the tattoo...
>>574957647just earlier someone criticized the nerfs and two to three guys instantly jumped on that anon, calling him a shitposter and how he doesn't play the game. i mean, what is this place? everyone has gone crazy.
>>574957962If you see the fake word hopejeet in a post, that's an instant give away of a falseflagger.
mere tenebria showing up in the story gives me hope for alts being added to the game. in my ideal world sg would establish a fair enough base roster, slow down making entirely new characters, then start on creating alts for the established cast. preferably canonical alts that represent their character progressing with the story.
>>574957962Stare long enough into the abyss...I sometimes just study the flow of posts and the narratives it creates, as well as the ideas that are being pushed and defended. Something tells me that the clownposter plays 4D chess. Not sure how much of it is samefagging, but i have seen plenty anons here change for the worse and adopt the same behavior as the clown. Its kind of impressive what he is doing. Unless i read too much into it, which can be very possible.
>>574927930Y'all need to stop coping with this off-season shit. The rewrite was arguably much bigger than any season and /czn/ was completely unusable
>>574958512Nah new characters are better than alts.
>>574958865Nobody cared or cares about the story in CZN except buttblasted gooks that got emasculated by a femboy which is normal.I don't understand why doomjeets are trying to make it a thing.
>>574959217Yeah, the doomjeets were making whole lore posts and discussing the "peak" of all gacha stories. Stupid ass runjabitch
>ban evading already
>>574959217I think he's very into ntrMakes sense when you take into account he's a closet case, evidence being he dumped his interracial gay porn on the other thread
>>574959217>doomjeets were loving the remakelmao this shithole has lost all its marbles now
No Hilde stream???
I just wanted something different from hoyo slop for my story "Oh this evil and mysterious chinese lady is just a misunderstood perfect waifu who's only flaw is that she cares too much!!""Oh no watch out is the saturday cartoon goons the joober order aaaieeee''Shit is so boring, I couldn't finish it
30% cheaper dawei in my ass
>>574961416Why is dawei in your ass?
>>574961503because he ntr me from czn
>>574960823
>>574960898Go read a book if you want a good story.
>>574963679Hopejeets told me CZN had a great story, though? Were you lying, Runjashit?
>Stop fussing over the nerfs your fault for playing it too much>Who cares about the censorship? She looks better then before>Who cares about the story? If you want to have fun go somewhere elseWhat is this phenomenon called? Shilling so hard that's almost undistinguishable from a-logging
This>>574963883just proves this>>574959217Feces eaters need to eat feces I guess.
>>574964137>NA hours
>>574964137there's "individuals" genuinely getting upset at being called runjabitch or rajeshit. those are your suspects.
I like how ever since Tenebria release the performance of mobile has been dogshit. Constant lag when picking cards is so annoying. Is anybody even trying at this point?
>>574965545What device are you using?
>>574965601S25 Ultra.
>>574965798Bull fucking shit or your phone is ridden with spyware. Runs perfectly fine on A55. No lags. No stutters.
>>574965926How is it the phone's fault when it happened exactly with the Tenebria release? It worked perfectly before and nothing changed on my part.
>filtered comment instantly shows upNew approach, yet results are still pathetic.
>>574966025Not him but the game runs perfectly on my S20 fe, there's definitely something wrong with your phone
>>574965545Hehe*Epilepsi cut in attack!
>>574966445>update hits>game lags constantly when using cards>somehow it's my fault and not the updateAre you serious? Or just retarded?
>game works fine on worse phones>"n-nooo, it's not my phoneeee"
>>574966543>2 people with worse phone than you are able to run it fine>NO IT'S NOT A ME ISSUE Idk what to tell you, reinstall or something.
>>574965545I'm on Pixel 10 and i only have fps drops with certain characters. Tenebria certainly tanks performance with Spotlight. Something iffy is going on there. Adelheid tanks performance when using her unique. After using it once, whenever her l2d or whatever sprite comes up, the game drops frames. Maybe it's the new characters? Others work fine. Didn't test Fei because i don't have her
>>574966543Brother, some people don't understand what optimization is. Or they just try to ragebait you and start another Hope vs Doomjeet thing
>>574966758I did notice that when playing Tene as well. Maybe it's some kind of memory leak.
>>574967236Do you have that "lag" with every combatant, or with specific ones?
>local pajeet buys the newest phone with money pooled from his whole village>download sexy cow pictures and gay porn from various virus site>wtf my phone no work good anymoretale as old as time
>>574963883Indian can't read thou
>>574967723I notice that the game just lags when i have Tene on my team. I played my Heide team and i had no lag. But with Tene everyone on the team lags.>>574967875Kill yourself, please.
>>574931991>Exploit Opening Heh
>>574968197Try and see if Spotlight is the culprit. Otherwise just write a ticket to support and explain it to them. Hopefully they stop being lazy and fix the game
>>574966758Cute Vero
Epic garbage devs
>hopejeets are either turbo shills or genuine players that just enjoy the game depending on who you ask>doomjeets are out to destroy the game and just here to complain or genuine players who also enjoy the game but want its flaws fixed, also depending on who you ask>schizos just here to "funpost" and and make discussion impossible, probably out of hatred towards hopejeets, depending on who you ask>clownschizo probably a chaotic neutral/evil schizo that was once a hopejeet turned doomjeet. possibly chizu chuu anon. wants to kill /czn/ or save /czn/ from cultist hopejeets, depending on who you ask(?)>another party, the "endless eight", falseflag as hope or doomjeets, depending on who you ask, and try to bring people over to their lands by hope'ing you into moving there or doom'ing these threads completely unusable and in turn also moving you there>normal anons and maybe some CC's are caught in the croasfire and either stay for the lulz or just leaveIs this correct so far? Have i missed something? This is definitely better than most gacha stories.
>>574971193You're wrong at enjoying the game part
Not gonna read allat.
>>574971193who said off-seasons are boring?
>>574971193you should mention that there are hope and doomjeets that are not part of the eight that are falseflagging as each other as well. they attack anons who don't live here but still play the game and pretend to be the other side so the attacked anon hates them
>>574971193>doomjeets are shitposters that repeatedly confirmed they don't play the game and just practice their culture here in virtual formfify
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/14061509More compensation
>>574965798>>574965926>>574966445>chink androidEwwwwww
>>574973237>rescue anchordamn it literally cost them nothing handing out limited anchor>b-but they give us ticket selector>only up to DianaLMAOOOOOOOOOO
>>574973237>Another selectorFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUARK
>UWU PWEASE PULL OUR NEWEST DOGSHIT UNIT, WE EVEN NERFED MORALE ,FORTITUDE AND RESOLVE SO YOU WILL PULL 3RD RATE UNIQUE BUFFER
>>574973237SMILE GENEROUSGENEROUS
>>574973237>be hopeGOD>winIt's that easy.
>>574973551they will eventually just add NotMorale that we will stack like in good old times and nerf it again. Rince and repeat
>>574973237So what about the dupe buffs, are those being taken away too? They said all adjustments are being rescinded.
>free apoloselectorE2 Yuki or E1 Diana, nice.
Who should I use the selector on? Shortlist is Haru, Nine, Rita.
>A FUCKING SELECTOR??????????????????????????????????????????????>COMPLETE REVERSE??????????????????????????????
>>574973237Now I have to prefarm for Rin who I will pick with the selector too...>>574973770They only changed the morale/resolve/fortitude cap from 15 to 20.Everything else is as planned.
>>574973237KEEEEEK DOOMSCHOLARS WIN AGAIN HOPEJEET FECES EATING TRANNIES AKA "THE NERFS ARE FINE" ON SUICIDEWATCH HAHAHAHAH
>>574973848tiph
>>574973840>E1 Dianabro...
>>574973884No all the persona card and engraving stuff is also reverted
>>574973884>They only changed the morale/resolve/fortitude cap from 15 to 20.>Everything else is as planned.Hmmmm....Nyo>The Season 3 Season Power adjustments will be withdrawn, and Morale·Fortitude·Resolve will be changed to 20 max stacks
>>574973872No, moral fortitude and resolve are still capped so they can sell retarded support that barely do anything
so it's just the buff cap, orlea cap and the equipment changes going through now, right? is that really the most broken stuff to hit...?
>>574973237Once again the doomSLAVES toil and work away while us HopeLAZYCATS receive all the benefits while not lifting a finger.Feels good to be so superior effortlessly.
>>574973951"Up to Diana" should include Diana. Unless you do not use so-called "standard" English.
>>574973237who gives a shit about the selector? there is literally nothing i wou-...wait. i never got narja. maybe wait and see who hilde and co will synergize best first. otherwise, very stingy not to give out more pulls
They are still killing orlea
we are so back
>>574974258no, i'm talking about how diana's e1 is fucking garbage
>>574974258Probably a comment on Diana herself
>>574973848What's their current ego level? E0?
>>574974258It will be the same selector as we got during the half anni.
>>574974283We?Nigga go back to your 8
>>574973237Can nips and chinks complain a little louder? This is clearly not enough. 20 anchor pulls would have been appropriate for this kind of damage done. We should definitely complain more.
>>574974305>>574974313One step closer to E2. E1 is merely a stepping stone.
>>574974362I don't have them at all (or Rin, Khalipe, Yuki, or any males)
>>574974124The persona cards are the most broken.Nothing will be stronger than the discard 2 persona card for dps and +15% damage for every light engraving persona for supports.
>>574973237>only 10 pulls>selector for washed up powercrept old hag unitsso basically only 10 pulls? really? you have to be fucking kidding me??
>>574974597They're rubbing your face in it for refusing nerfs and asking for powercreep going forward
washed up old hag tiphera...
>>574973237>selector only up to dianah-ha..hahaha...hahahahahaha>10 measly pulls for killing all your decksAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>574974758>killing all your decksRETARD ALERTRETARD ALERT
>>574974758dont spend it all at once, kid
Yeah the game is done.They bent the knee to retards and now powercreep is the future of this game.Can't wait for the complaining retards to see the powerspike in season 4 cards that will force them to refarm their decks anyway.
>>574974898>and nowsince s1?
>>574974484Still haven't built my Haru so I can't really rate her. Rita gets a lot of undeserved flak, imo. She's pretty strong and fun to use, but needs solid planning.Nine is the opposite of Rita. Very strong unga bunga character, braindead to use. I find her quite boring in the long run.Yuki is a fun meme and Rin (Yisol) is easy to build and really fun to use with proper supports. Easy to master, too. Can easily dish out ~100k damage per turn in tower, even at E0.Personally, I'd recommend:Fun: Rita > Rin (Yisol) > Yuki > NineMeta: Nine > Rita > Rin (Yisol) > Yuki
>>574974898The interesting thing will be how they gonna justify nerfing everything that happened in season 4 for season 5. There has been some fuckery with unit nerfs but this time they really went deep into the decks and mechanics.
>>574973237FVARK
>do nothing>get a selector + 10 limited pullsThank you DOOMSLAVES
>>574975026They won't.They will just keep increasing the power of the seasonal cards.In season 7 we will have 0 cost cards that give permanent 20 morale and fortitude.
A Steam release would've fixed this
>>574975079We could have had 20 if you werent busy eating shit off the streets.
I'm always, always knew that I will be rewarded by being a hopeCHADGLORY TO SMILEGATE
>>574975137>getting review bombed a gazillion times because SG can't stop fucking up
>>574975079It really is just that easy
>>574975180HOLY COPE
>>574975180No. Keep working hard for me slavie :)
>>574973237am i crazy or is this short-term reward really bad for multiple reasons? they basically sold us insane powercreep going forward for...a selector and ten pulls?
>>574973237See this? This was caused by doomTITANSHope,jeets didn't want any compensation
>>574975372they did the same with nerfs at release as well and you accepted that bribe, anon
>Doomjeets overheating their hovels to fire up all their cheap samsungs to try and think about how improved compensation is a bad thing
>>574975372i mean, there's really nothing we can do. too much whining on every server for the nerfs to be reverted
>>574975218We can always rely on our doomSLAVES to eat shit and waste their lives while we reap the rewards.
They should have kept some of the nerfs, just reduce the numbers a little and give much more deck editing compensation.Something like:>morale/fort stacks to at least 30>10x the orb rewards>make personas cost 0 save data>make persona cards removable without increasing the remove count of existing decks
How did this game manage to have the worst general on /vg/? I bet it's the males.
>>574973237>Moving forward, we will revise how we approach balance adjustments. Instead of adjusting the Season Power effects from the recently completed Seasons, we will instead look toward improving the Season power values of future seasons.grim. They know the selectors don't mean shit because they're just gonna powercreep everyone anyways.
>>574975372Shitskin f2p runjabitches can only see free gibs. They will eat any slop so they don't give a shit. As always it's the normal players and doomers that have to think how to keep SG from totally killing the game.
>>574975137I'm glad we don't have Steam no shitskin review bombing our game
>>574971193>>574972173DoomTITANS are literally saving the game, every player chimped out at the nerfs except hopejeets and now we get more compensation BECAUSE of us and only us
>>574975625We wouldn't be in this mess if they just released more males, drive away all the MLjeets that got permanently mindbroken by Owen and other males.
>>574975372Surely some nips and chinks are smart enough to realize this as well and start to complain some more, right?
>>574973872You can thank us DoomLORDS for that.
why did doomers switch from hating the nerfs to wanting them?
>>574975337Crack the whip, they need to bitch and eat shit more to give us even more compensation while we do nothing.
>>574975740Reversal of the nerfs is a bad thing, retardGOD!>I-I won't have to refarm decksThe powercreep in season 4 will be insane because they want you to play the game and pull new characters not just use old decks and characters.Holy shit how stupid can you get.
>Deep Trauma still didn't get scanned>>574956450>divegrassIsn't that something you have to do yourself?If a person wants it, then they have to put in the effort.
>>574975862it's the only thing doomslaves understand, shitting and jeeting up places so their betters can get more gibs
>>574975609All they have to do is "season 3 powers and cards are 33% less effective in S4 content" then it would've been fine, we could keep using S3 decks for full scale assault and other shit
>>574975862I just hated the initial compensation, I wanted to be able to edit all affected decks instead of the pittance they gave us. (like when they nerfed cassius/tressa) Now we're trading away power balance for 1 selector (that will be powercrept) and 10 extra pulls.
>>5749758604chan has absolutely nothing to do with that.I also do not like that they completely reverted the changes/nerfs.
>>574975913>it's over. future characters wil be strong and funis that supposed to be a threat? because im tired as fuck from kneecapped characters
>>574976039Yeah they will probably do less points in rift or something, I agree.
>>574976071What I wanted was a new editing material which can remove persona cards for free without cucking to the 5/5 removal limitI don't care for the selector but I guess I'll get tiph e2
i approve of anything that is getting us closer to EoS, so i am naturally supporting Smile KING in every decision :D
>>574976078Every single community except for paid SG hopejeets hated the nerfs, anyone who wasn't happy with it is a doomtitanWe run CZN.
CHAOS ZERO NERFS
>do nothing>win
I just want another charm breakdownCan't wait for >guilt>gloom>impulseagain.
They won
>>574973237>selector up to DianaI DON'T CARE
>Morale and Fortitude still cappedyou hopejeets are satisfied with anything nowadays
which jeet didn't deserve the selector?? hopejeets or doomjeets????
>>574976357I FUCKING KNEEL DOOMLORDSYOU SINGLE HANDEDLY SAVED CZN
>>574976417hopejeets deserve nothing
>Bunch of ansul's illegal children praising nothingburger selector for retarded powercreep in s4
>>574976417even if doomjeets did deserve it (they don't), they can't get it because they don't play the game
why is this place so toxic? did i miss something?
>>574976078Content creator here I'm using my channel to complaint about the nerf and I'm using 4chan arguments for my video.
Can't wait for elasticity ++ (no multi hits past 7, no action increase, no dots) for s5
what does jenazad think of this??
THE SNOWBREAK ROUTE
>>574976708i uniron belieb it
>>574976558And yet hopeSLAVEMASTERS will anyway
>>574976708use >>574976378 because reznov mason is based (schizophrenic)
engravings really should go, complainers really fucked up this time
The future looks bright..
This just sets a precedence that the devs are spineless and will bend the knee if there's enough complaints. EoS speedrun.
this might be the only gacha i don't give a fuck about selectors. especially when its up to fucking Diana. doomchads, do something.
>>574977537Who would you pick if it was for every character?
>>574977537It only excludes Adelheid and Tenebria though and you should already have those
>This just sets a precedence>This
>E5 Rin with new selectorOnly one more dupe to E6, feels blessed. Hopefully we can get another for Anni
>>574977537>this might be the only gacha i don't give a fuck about selectors. especially when its up to fucking Diana. doomchads, do something.>can get the cat without wasting rollsI'm good
>we know its shit but we will proceed anyway>here's your selectorKEKAROOO
remember what you all did today. you bullied and cornered the devs, leaving them with no way out. the next time powercreep or hp inflation you'll have no excuses left. congratulations.fuckers
>>574977320>This just sets a precedence that the devs are spineless and will bend the knee if there's enough complaints.first SG game?
>>574977537>might be the only gacha i don't give a fuck about selectorsit's weird. there is some truth to that. i'm not really excited about that either.
Who are you getting from the selectors, bros?As for me I will getting Hugo to combo with my wife.
>>574977836customers are king
>>574977992Rin on Kayron.Will decide after I pull Hilde and use the standard pulls.
>>574977836Then I'll just complain about powercreep and pressure them to buff the old characters???
I hate this. S3 deserves a nerf. Smilegook shat the bed in letting people farm it until now but the nerf itself was warranted.Also funny that one of the few nerfs that went through was the Torture Toolbox nerf that I talked about here.
>>574978178Are you retarded?have you seen those nothingburger buffs?How about yuki buff then? have you seen it?
>>574978313Just means you didn't complain harder.
>>574978756Mad cause bad :)
>>574971193We should put this in the OP. After being here for an hour i totally get it
>>574977992I only miss Rin and Hugo.I really do not want to pick a homo but Rin is so useless...
>>574978756No need. I'll keep complaining and smilegook will keep listening. Keep on seething that smilegook is listening to us instead of some random jeet that doesn't play the game.
>suddenly everyone stops postingdid everyone just...go back to r*ddit and d*scord?
>>574980610Busy posting in other generals.There is nothing to talk during the off-seasons.>m-muh nerfsI'll wait until they are implemented since these devs flip flop every few days.
>>574973237
>>574978242Yeah, reverting the S3 nerfs is a massive mistake.This is going to be felt throughout future seasons, what an absolute joke. Free selector I guess.
>>574980610The effects of this will not be apparent until we get a full list of S4 seasonal mechanics, maybe even S5.
>>574978242I don't understand why they go the extremes instead of finding a middle way, complete panic and retardation
>>574981405How the fuck selector gonna fix this problem?
>>574981709the same way jacking off fixes it
wait a secondTHOSE TEN PULLS ARE STANDARD PULLS?THEY NOT EVEN BANNER PULLS?NOOOO FUCKING WAAAAY HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT GAME HAHAHAHAHHAH
I HATE THIS FUCKING GAME
Can we please stop sexualizing absolutely everything in this community? It feels like every time a new character, skin, artwork, or even a simple screenshot is released, the conversation immediately turns into sexual comments instead of discussing the character's design, personality, lore, gameplay, or the effort the artists and developers put into creating them. It's becoming exhausting to see nearly every post flooded with the same kinds of jokes and remarks, especially when there are so many other interesting things to talk about.There's nothing wrong with thinking a character looks attractive, but there's a big difference between appreciating a design and reducing every character to nothing more than an object of desire. When every discussion is dominated by sexual comments, it discourages people who want to have genuine conversations about the game. New players may also get the impression that the community only cares about one thing, which isn't a great representation of the fanbase.Games are meant to be enjoyed in many different ways. Some people are interested in the story, others enjoy building teams, mastering mechanics, collecting characters, creating fan art, or discussing theories. Those conversations deserve just as much attention as any other topic. Constantly steering every thread toward sexual jokes overshadows the creativity and passion that many fans bring to the community.A respectful community doesn't mean nobody can make jokes or express that they like a character's appearance. It simply means recognizing that not every post has to become sexual and that different people enjoy the game for different reasons. Being mindful of how we interact with others helps create a space where more people feel comfortable participating.
>>574981904Is this reddit copy pasta or discord copy pasta? Holy fuck arnjuntards are so fucking retarded
>>574981813That situation looks... futile.
>>574981785I just noticed. They seriously only giving normal pulls for this? Scam Gate at it again
W-what's wrong with E7...? Should we feel concerned...?
>>574982536There's barely balancing in e7 which they can freely make op char and the counter for said char in next season (pvp btw). But that won't happen since the only way to sell whores in cuckzn is by nerfing old chars
>>574982536Absurd powercreep.New characters and seasonal cards will be way stronger than last seasons.This is the future doomjeets wanted.
>>574982536Powercreep galored. Unit is good for 1 patch cycle then nerfed into the Abyss. Get new shiny broken unit. Repeat.This is exactly what people wanted.
>>574981709I never said the selector would fix it? All I'm basically saying is that these reverts are going to be a downward trend, yet people are rejoicing and shrugging it off because the devs gave out a free selector like it's a pacifier.
>>574982972DoomTITANS wanted them to nerf the old decks in great rift of s4 via a modifier, and keep the decks playable in other content like all out assault.We also wanted persona card removal items which don't count toward 5 removals.The devs just think people want to see no nerfs at all even if it means the powercreep will be absurd
Can we stop gooning under literally every post for like five seconds?Every single time a new character, skin, splash art, or random screenshot drops, the comments instantly get possessed by the same "would," "hear me out," "breedable," "PLAP PLAP," "AWOOGA," copy-paste NPC dialogue. The character could have the hardest design known to mankind, insane lore implications, peak gameplay, or the artists could've spent months cooking, and somehow the entire discussion gets one-tapped into horny posting before it even spawns.Like damn, nobody's saying you can't think a character is fine. That's normal. But some of y'all genuinely cannot survive 30 seconds without turning every character into gooner bait. It's like the second pixels appear on your monitor, the frontal lobe logs off and the comments become a collective IQ debuff.The game has actual content. There's lore to dissect, mechanics to lab, team comps to optimize, story theories to schizopost about, fan art to appreciate, music to glaze, and character writing to discuss. Instead every thread gets hijacked by the exact same recycled thirst comments like we're trapped in an infinite content farm.Then people wonder why normal discussion dies after ten comments. Bro, because every post gets carpet bombed by the same horny script. New players walk in and immediately think the community is just an open-air goon session. That's not even being a hater, that's literally the first impression.Nobody's asking for the Ministry of Fun to pull up. Make jokes. Call a character attractive. Whatever. Just maybe don't let every single comment section get farmed by people acting like they've never seen a fictional character before. The community would actually have aura if conversations lasted longer than three replies before devolving into collective gooner psychosis.
>AAAAAAAAAH MAN FUCK THESE DEVS FOR MAKING THIS GARBAGE ASS GAME IM NOT FORCED TO PLAY BTW AND ALL THE SHITTY NERFS FOR CHARACTERS I WILL NEVER USE ANYWAY>*devs hand out some rolls and a selector*>DEVS LISTENED!!!>DEVS LISTENED!>DEVS LISTENED!!!!!
Who said that?
>>574850149laughingduck.gif
WHERE'S THE FEI SELECTOR?!!
>>574982536Let's say there is character A that can revive, this character dominated tournament and PvP then on the next patch they release character B that can ignore revive and then in the next patch they release character C that can protect character A from B and then it continues until character Z can ignore character A. It's basically cat and mouse game.
>>574862839Theres literally 0 rule breaking posts name 6
>>574981813>no healer>GAYronbwo...
>>574982536He's completely rightf2poors (the trannies complaining) will soon discover what they created
>>574982536epic seven has fucking horrible power creep problem
>>574977992Isn't the selector only up to Diana?With this early selector, I can both e6 renoa and narja, and then start working on Diana.
since S3 cards aren't nerfed what card am I supposed to farm?
>>574973237>didn't pay attention to another drama during between season time>get a selectorCool.I guess I will pick the chonky girl for collection.
>>574986129The most overpowered combinations on equipment are Action Count relatedEvery single monster will be immune to thatBy season 10 every boss will have 30 mandatory counter effects like Elasticity because gachatrannies don't like nerfs and balance adjustments
>>574986129
>>574986298>30 mandatory counter effectshow about they just let us break the game over our shoulders
>>574991830lol
>>574991856the standard of great rift should be at season 1 where TCM was better than everything else
that's it, boys, wrap it up, endless powercreep awaits. I didn't mind the s3 card nerf if it meant we didn't immediately scale into a gacha slopfest
>>574992824they went back on the persona and engraving nerfs and gave everyone a selector as compensationstop being a retard
I'm glad I am a casual. It must be terrible to take a kusoge like this seriously. They should have stuck to their guns. But that''s what happens when you listen to the knee jerk reactions of asian grinders.
It's owarida
>my Yisol deck evaded the nerf hammer>will get a selector on top of thatDo nothing, win.
So is Dreamworld still a thing or not? I'm too casual to understand.
>nooooo you can't just skip the enemy turnFuck off gooks let me play how I want to play. Them killing Wanderers was a precursor to this shit
I wish this card was good
>>574993406It's still decent, but morale is capped at 20 now.
Sortie is still a garbage mode
Silver Palace waiting room
Should I feel hopeful? Feel concerned?Someone please tell me how I should feel for the future of CZN...
>>574994414get ready for suffocating powercreep from here on out.
>>574994345Just another proof the jeets shitting up this place don't understand why people play CZN.
Langrisser waiting room
>accidentally click on gatekeeper's trial during a good run
>>574994414If you're casual, then nothing matters.If you actually play the game, then yes, you should feel concerned and others would agree.
https://poal.me/8wsc2phttps://poal.me/8wsc2phttps://poal.me/8wsc2pWHO ARE YOU GETTING FROM THE SELECTOR???
this game is ruined by its community
>>574947561
Chaos total drama
>>574998537king of hopejeets has spoken
>>574999060He's a doomjeet now, get your facts right
Hi. I stopped czn for sts2, around the middle of Sereniel banner.I was thinking about coming back and enjoy some new contents with my starter team. posting my progress /czn/ was pretty fun.but what the fucking is happening here, can anyone give me a rundown?
>they will increase the power level of S4 stuff to match S3>with less than a week for the new update Those fuckers will break the game again, won't they?
>>574999567>to match S3No it needs to be stronger for people to farm it.
>>574999565Genuinely doesn't affect (you), and whatever does remains to be seen. Just collect the gibs and be happy.
>>574999565Just the usual pre-season drama which you never experienced.
>>574997194E5 Rin babyyyyor maybe the sexcat since I still don’t have her
>>574999565This is not even your image lmfao.
>>574999565Do you mean in terms of game changes or the state of this thread?
>>575001690I initially mean the game changes. but that doesn't seems like it's going to affect me and I think I can figure it out myself reading patch and such.so now I want to know about this thread.
Reverting the nerfs was dumb. Just decrease how much was taken from the Persona cards and increase the compensation.
>>575002120The thread is a constant shithole thanks to both retards that can't take criticism and niggers that don't even play the game shitposting ad infinitum. It gets bad during Off Season patches and even worse during big announcements like the recent nerfs. You'll have to learn how to filter the trash.
>>574999567UUUUUUUUUUUH WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?!?!?!
>>575002387You can search for "deleted" here. Shitposters are going completely mental and there's no moderation. I think that one guy was close to scat spamming like they do it in the epic 7 general.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/574849676/
>>575002164Agreed
/Ourguy/ verdict just dropped!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbULzQ02nLUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbULzQ02nLUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbULzQ02nLU
>>575002730>loves it>Devs listened>all going to be good>SmileGate is a great companyHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLYY FVAAAAAAAAAARRRKKKK/OURFUCKINGGUY/DEVS LISTENEEEDDDD!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!! SO HECKIN PEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>575002730so what's the verdict? not gonna watch a 10min vid of someone that's scared of some panties. is he still shilling as per usual?
I feel completely discouraged from playing. This was handled so fucking badly, feels like a bunch of headless chicken are managing the game.Concerning.I need a hope injection.
Just talking out of ass here, but maybe the reason they backpedaled the nerfs so quickly is related to the recent CN release. Chinks get pretty crazy when it comes to nerfs in gachas, like mass refund/unfollow on socials.Pic rel for example is genshit rolling back a nerf to a character doing abnormal damage by doing 180 spins (Despite that he still got powercrept later on anyway)
Here we go
>>574849953He is not even subtle about it
OH GOD OH FUCKWTF IS THAT
>>575003178Forgor pic
>>575003153See >>575003015
>>574993614It would be nice if you could go over the agony cap AND it applied 1 stack per hit, not per card. In its current form it's unsalvageable.
>>575003365>hopejeets play genshinLMAo you can't make this shit up
>>575003562There we go again making up imaginary enemies, retard
They were getting review bombed here too
>>575003910>bunch of indogsYikes
>>575003910What language is that?
>>575004056the language that runs your game
>>575004056Those are goblin grunts, I guess.
>>575003178I think they're just retarded. Most people were ""fine"" with the nerf and the outrage came mostly from the awful compensation and how late the announcement came. All they had to do was >give more pulls (blue ones)>at least 10 currency from the sortie items they were giving >allow you to remove the Persona cards you had (or take away their 20 cost)>decrease the changes to something more reasonable (some stuff got a 80% nerf, just make it 50)
>>574994345enjoy your gay fest bwo
>>575002730That retard thinks engravings are getting nerfed.Why bother even watching him?
>>575004506>The absolute state of gacha in current yearKEKYPOW
>nerfs get announced>everyone bitches about it>nerfs reverted>still bitching about itGachatards are never happy
>>575005320>CZN playerbase is one personFitting for a retard to call others retarded.
>getting all of your effort deleted at the end of the season is good for game health, actually.this sentiment reeks of reddit armchair game designer analysis.everyone seems to act as if sg neutering your save data forcefully at the end of a season isn't just a manifestation of powercreep.wah wah wah new seasons are gonna be stronger than old seasons. no shit, that was also going to happen if they hammer down every good season the moment it looks like it's going to be better than an upcoming one.the end result is the same: your characters and save data become obsolete. the only difference is natural power creep does it gradually. the previous way does it abruptly.also, who fucking cares if they said they won't nerf seasonal content going forward? that means as much as their twice-broken promise to never nerf combatants.
>dont farm season decks like an autist>just get all rewards and move on>get to play tons of varied buildsI have once again won by doing literally nothing.
>>575006801Season 3 heavily preferred multyhit characters.Tenebria had to be broken to compete with HDMI and Diana.Now if they release a different archetype character it will need to be more broken than Tenebria.This cycle will now continue like in all other gacha.Up until now 4* only teams could clear all content for max rewards.Lets see if they will be able to do it after the next 3 seasons.
>start sortie 30/30>everything goes well>encounter Forceful godmothers>every fucking turn the game activates cost 3 cysts>dieFUCKRARESPECIES
>>575007391there's constant powercreep since s1, non stop and pretty brutal one
>>575007732>pretty brutal oneRetard
>>575003158I didn’t mind the nerfs but I wanted better compensation. Backpedaling means turbo creep 5ever
28th can't come soon enough.
so how will later seasons look? insane powercreep and massive amounts of "nuh-uh" mechanics on bosses?
>>575010182At worst they can just disable S3 decks for greater rift
>>575010182are we pretending that wasn't how the great rift and seasonal mechanics worked since literally always or something?every season thus far had been stronger than the last.every great rift boss rotation has been absolutely full of no u mechanics.s4 appearing to be complete dogshit was abnormal. but s3 also looked like dogshit in the prerelease.
>>575011250>are we pretendingYes, what now bitch?
no guys you dont get itall seasons should be functionally identical and everyone getting bored and quitting due to having no reason to continue the gameplay loop is good for game health
based gonna get my gayron to e6. thanks chinaman and other weird pagpag people for complaining.
>>575012238no problem xister, i'm an ally
>>575010182it's incredibly easy to balance around DoTs
All this chimp out like they weren't already gonna nuke your S3 save data lolCan't wait for Elasticity 3 (This boss ignores Additive Modifiers on top of Elasticity 2!)
>>575013507lul bro
If anything, S3 was actually pretty balanced as in most characters could get something from it. S1 and 2 had what? Half dozen characters that could fully enjoy the equipament and cards?
>>575016283engravings were super boosted for everyone
>>575016462Most of them were dogshit with the "exhaust" condition for most engravings. It got a bit better later when they introduced new non-shill ones, but not that much.
>>575016754meanwhile in reality you could see people walk away from s2 chaos with some nigger whipper 5000 in his save data almost every day. shit is so busted - people still abused it by activating s2 for the swamp long after season is gone
>>575016283Swamp with S2 equipment refinement is still stupid powerful if you get good rolls. The problem is that it’s impossible to get consistently good save data because there’s no way to reroll the God hammer.
tenebriaDEITIES are reaping our compensation despite barely making any use of S3 mechanics. what the fuck do we do?
>>575018945>tenebriaDEITIESThe what?
Guys they are called supercreative for a reason, they will find a way to fix this, surely
>>575019142
>>575019142the divine beings who preside over us lowly mortals.
bake the new brood
>>575019965it's TOO EARLY
>>575020070DO IT
TenebriaGODS, almighty architects of the universe and arbiters of all that is, please forgive us.We did not mean to cast doubt on your will, or display ignorance to your rightful divinity. We are simply plagued by lost lambs who wandered into the flock. I beg you... please have mercy.
>>575020629Some of you will have to pay for this.
Next season: bosses receive -100% damage from basic attack cards.Smilegate hire me
I'm extremely concerned for the future of CZN...
>>575021259nyo... mei lin...
>>575021989extremely, or so i've heard
Guys they could inject unlimited hope by just removing elasticity from the game
>>575022659mei lin's kinda mid for great rift anyways
make it a tenebria breadin honor of the tenebriaDEMIURGES that guide us
>>575026805>>575026805>>575026805
