Shivdicta Edition>Latest patch:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450?emclan=103582791474686175&emgid=688635449342696590>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>574837269 (Cross-thread)
Buff Silver already this hero is so fucking trash lmao
another week of waiting for the update.another week of echo knife haze.hmph.
How do you guys find people to play Deadlock with? I really want to make friends through deadlock but i have pretty bad social skills
buff enjoyers more like raped enjoyers
Thinking about Graves
Reposting so (You) know your place.
>>574929427>talon>very cringeexplain
>caring about what some seeker GAWD has to say
Sex with paige.
>>574929553hecking owlerino chungus
>>574929238>when i was a young boy>young boyGRAVES TRANS CONFIRMEDGRAVES IS TRANSSSSSSSSSS>in b4 but its le epic millenial SONG bro ok they could have chosen any other edgy millenial song like boulevard of broken dreams but they specifically choose a song with trans lyrics because deadlock has a majority trans community and its beautiful :3 dont like it chud? quit the game.
>>574929309If you make your rank go high enough you'll be playing with the same people everyday anyways
>>574929347they have to repeat it next week for it to count. I noticed that the only time Abums can defeat BE is when someone is subbing there.
>>574929692mental illness
Why can doorman STILL place doors inside base? Lash at least needs to use an extremely telegraphed ult to shove entire teams into his base
>>574929772I think their roster hasn't gotten better than when they had hoot.
I do not trust valve in the slightest with anything MM related.
>>574929703I already reached eternus 6 ur right about playing with same people but i still wanna make actual friends
>>574929692holy fuck meds
Don't care. Buff Graves.
>echo shard haze>echo shard stomp ivy>Billywow i love not being able to react to anything in a fight and just lose and this is with weighted shots and debuff reducer
>>574930225you're bklood tribute and spellbreaker and unstop and spellbraker xister?
>>574929963Maybe ill stop getting queued with Mr Vladimir 'pvp mcginnis L>R build' Smirnov and get real double digit plus IQ teammates for once
>>574930225sorry but you have to invest in 32k items to counter that
they should remake billy but this time not make him a m*lee hero
wtf I built full damage and died to CC?
End of fucking july for a pointless matchmaking update, so fun!!!!!! That doesnt change the game in any meaningful way. Which means we'll get the "item update" (whatever the FUCK that entails) at the end of august AT THE EARLIEST.It's looking like the actual content update is going to be late september which coincides with EVERY GAME RELEASING THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF COURSE IT WOULD.FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>574929309I have tons of friends I have known for like two decades now. Even if some of them don't like a game, some of them do so I always have someone to play with.
>toxic unhappy fag keeps blaming others for his own shit positioning>open steam profile>"a pansexual trans goth catgirl"
>>574929427>haze honorablewat>bebop, drifter, graves passablewat
>>574930870and this is supposed to help me how exactly? good for you i guess
I'm going full Glass Cannon lifestyle on everyone I play and there's nothing you can do to fucking stop me, Officer Nolan
dashfernus is still AIDS
I've got a real question for you guys: what items in the game do you think reworked? Or even removed? I'm not talking like adding minor stat ups but a change to how they function.For example I'll have the hot take that Echo Shard and Refresher should just be removed from the game since all they really contribute to is unfair play. I also think more items should build into other items or even certain lower to your 1600 items should have a 6400 equivalent.For example the item Stalker should have a 6400 equivalent that builds into. Heck. Call it backstabber.
>>574931526We need a 1600 gun item called Bandolier that gives 30% More Ammo and a passive that lets you continue reloading while doing things that take stamina.It upgrades into 6400 item named Rampage that gives ammo and a large chunk of weapon damage (50%+), with bandolier passive, and a new passive that gives you an instant reload whenever you get a player kill
>>574931526yeah bro lets remove the two most fun items in the game because it made you mad, great idea!!
YYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
is there anything more affirming after you play way above your usual skill one match? O1 for ref
>>574931854I want to know your stance on the item Soul Rebirth. Would you want that item back in the game? Was it fun?
>>574931526escalating
what exactly is happening with Vyper and Split Shot? Does she hit with both her main bullet and a split shot bullet simultaneously while sliding?
>>574932019nobody bought it because it was dogshit
>>574931857There's no actual content in that update little bro
>>574932091Answer my questions instead of dodging them and try again.
when (You) use echo shard it's cringle and tryhardwhen I use echo shard it's a cool and unique playstyle
>>574931526>I'll have the hot take that Echo Shard and Refresher should just be removednot hot, I agreedouble abilities are impossible to balance and do-overs shouldn't existI'd even go a step further and say Cheat Death has to go, too
Concord has come to
>>574932285I think part of the CC problem is Echo shard BTW. Getting stun locked in this game is pretty frustrating. Getting stun locked twice in a row because the enemy bought echo shard is infuriating.>>574930409>>574930225I'm not going to pretend this isn't a huge pain in the ass deal with.
There is nothing wrong with echoshardEveryone is just repeating whatever streamer started crying about it
>>574932236okay then I would want it back in the game and it was fun (conceptually) but they'd have to buff it
the problem is that dealing with movement slop isnt funwhich creates equally unfun CC meta
>>574932572I appreciate you confirming that it wasn't fun.
>>574932572I accept your concession.
>>574932373theyre literally just black women with jackets they're not that similar
>>574932704okay? refresher and echo shard are fun though so what are you getting at
>>574931526Remove all gun items from the game.
>>574932595there's no universal rule that says you need to counter movement with point and click baby mode CC stacking. the game would be way more fun if you actually had to -aim- and -hit- your abilities, instead of looking in someones general direction and then smashing your face on the keyboard like some kind of retarded ape mongoloidOmG HoLLiDAY juST bOUncEd nOw ShE's INVINCIBLE-Retard
>>574932373>>>/v/743814247ignore the sharty raid lads
>>574932719He CAN'T keep getting away with it!
>>574932945/v/ is laughing at us...
>>574932879>OmG HoLLiDAY juST bOUncEd nOw ShE's INVINCIBLE>-Retard95% of the playerbase feels this way btw
>>574932759Refresher and Echo Shard are fun for the USER. Not the person who's getting it on the other end. I know this might be baffling to you to hear this but I do care that my opponent is also having a good time when we're in a game together both trying to win. I don't buy Echo shard Refresher on that principle to stun lock my enemies with Ivy stoneform or Dynamo ult. Its cheap and unfair.
>>57493313995% of the playerbase is ascendant and below
>>574932572yeah bro a item that gives you reju every 240 seconds defo wasn't op on characters like pocket who eats up good amount of cc for sure bro it was very fun the only reason why victor is managable is that he doesn't have any escapes
>>574933230yeah my point exactly
>>574929427vyper and doorman belong with lashpaige silver and gooball belong in very cringevindicta and grey talon belong in honorable
>>574932373I hate the stupid fucking angry eyes
Another opinion I have is that cheat death is just the no skill version of ethereal shift when you think about it.
>>574932879holliday presses 1 button and starts flying with no skill expression whatsoever but when cc against it is also 1 button press its a problem suddenly?
>>574931857>Item update end of August>Actual update end of SeptemberHoly fuck bro what is wrong with these guys
>all CC now has a brief cooldown before it (from that same ability) can be applied again. If Abrams tackles you twice then the second won't stun if done too soon after the firstDoes this fix your problem?
>>574933187holy cuck response
>>574933676*stunlocks you twice then kills you*
how to tell if lane partner is dalit or brahmin sirs?
>>574933738>I don't buy Echo shard Refresher on that principle How are doing that if you don't buy the items to allow you to do that?Now sit in your cuck chair while I buy echo shard with no problem to rape you.
Which character dies first in game the most from your experience playing?
>>574933840They're still playing the game
>>574933958Silver
>>57493395850/50 split between Billy and Abrams
>>574933884No that's me buying those items to stunlock you and kill you specifically. I know you're low IQ and it's difficult to conceptualize this kind of thing but here we are.
>>574933958Silver has like an 80% chance of being involved in the first blood, either getting it or being it
>>574933958>abrams and drifter overextend for a melee and get rapedor>paige thinks plot armor just lets her win any interaction in lane and overextends
>>574933958the faggot paige immediately dashing into the enemies for epic 1v2 heavy melee plays
Is there any way to get rid of this disgusting item indicator when using instant cast? It makes it practically unplayable as during chaotic fights, or from any decent distance away, the item indicator blocks my ability to see which hero I'm selecting.
>>574933958Billy usually to a parry or getting blasted by the enemy base guardian. Or both.
>>574934078Whatever you say cuck
i am tired of seeing enhanced curse in every single match of streetbrawl i play
>>574934680easy fix to thatjust stop playing street brool and play the real game
>>574933553>3 substantive updates each monthbut that's pretty good?
>>574931802I like the general idea. 50%+ damage is probably a but much, but otherwise I like the concept.
>>574933553>>Item update end of AugustItem update? I thought jungle update was next up
>>574934761>matchmaking update>"substantive"also people screaming about "add draft!!" in a moba with 38 heroes are fucking retarded. Draft isn't going to make you suddenly win little bro
>>574934904What happened with the jeet who accused her of raping him?
>>574934761>substantive
>>574934904Eh, is it? A lot of weapon items already give the player a substantial amount of weapon damage to them.
gunslop ruined this game
>>574935395your metal skin?
>>574935062it's likely coming with a balance update, calm down sister
>>574935469>Counters your metal skin with MM/boundless
>>574935651seeker kun...
Theres too many fucking features in this game to pay attention too>Parries>Charged Melee vs Quick Melee>Mid Boss>Urn>Bridge buffs>Rift>Walker resist>Guardian resist>Tower resist>Shrine resist>Patron comeback resist>Rift comeback mechanic>Mid Boss>Mid Boss sounds for when its low HP>Zipline BoostI bet some of you fags didnt even know you can parry the walker stomp or mid boss's melee to stun it for 2 seconds.When this shit releases its gonna be a worse wikipedia game then Dwarf Fortrress
>>574935651>MM/boundlessBy itself that wouldn't do substatial damage through metal skin, however, every faggot m1 character has to ALSO deal a billion spirit damage with some brainless ability with no CD: Wraith with cards, Infernus with afterburn, Haze with fixation etc etc.
>>574932373at least calico has a feminine bodystill prefer the white calico mod though
>>574935130I believe he didn't take a settlement then proceeded to get raped in court as she finally retaliated.
>>574935549>balance patch>substantivejesus I know we're desperate here but come on
>oses will be playing for nu mlc tonightdo you think a eu carry will rape or be raped in NA?
>>574935786YOU CAN PARRY THE MID BOSS?!
>>574935549Wow a balance update where we rape two of the rapists into being useless, randomly kill a mid-high tier hero off for a few months, pick a few of the weaker heroes to buff into giga rapists with absolutely nonsensical number changes, and don't touch Shiv or Mirage meaningfully.
>>574935879jeet big mad
SILVER SPOTTEDAWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>bebop BANNED Uhm... fellow bebop downplayers? Whats going on? I Thought he was easily countered????
>>574936434>pro bebopwhen you have a player who has turbogrinded on him he can basically swing a match into rape one-sidedly in a instant and keep it that way until its closed out.goober put in bebop time so they have to do it
Buff Graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
>>574936409nerf silver so the thread schizos kill themselves and yeah it's a good patch methinks
>>574931526remove knockdown and arctic blast, if you want to do these things pick a character that does it, because those characters buying these items just breaks themveil walker and shadow weave need their detection radius removed, it should be pure stealth not gay camoflauge
okay pretty sure the Silver obsession within Night Shift is NA only because i never see her in EU
>>574936836>remove knockdownlol
>>574936836>remove knockdown and arctic blast>doesn't include phantom strikehuh??? what's the point then>veil walker and shadow weave need their detection radius removedonly if they add a counter item/mechanic for true invis
>>574936836Which character is broken by having knockdown exactly? Paige?
>>574936434Bebop sucks but hook is the single best skill in the game.
they get this and I get 0 obj damage on all 4 players
>>574930225oh cool we're pretending debuff resistance doesn't rape ivy stomps in half with a WHOPPING 4.8k investment (debuff reducer weighted shots). you literally can't even land a heavy melee after.
>>574937646your +ability duration%?
isn't this NA i thought this oses guy was russian
>>574934358I found the solution. QoL mod has customisability to change that.
>>574937718even if you have superior duration on ivy stomp, if they have debuff reducer + weighted shots it gets dropped to the stage you can't melee after a stun. it's virtually useless given the investment required. you can also get counterspell. I will not entertain this notion that it's not extremely fucking easy to counter.
>>574937763mlc dumped 4 players and a coach out.the only actual loss was dew, but they have to basically just sub in a ton of players until a regular roster reforms.
>>574937763Dimov played for Floormen. It's a fuckface esport. MLC had to scramble to find 4 replacements in a week.
>>574937763>russian orc realises russian orcs are insufferable to play with>leaves russia to go play on eastern european servers>behaves no differently>russian orc is followed by other russian orcs>realises russian orcs are insufferable to play with>leaves eastern european servers to go play on western european servers>behaves no differently>russian orc is followed by other russian orcs >realises russian orcs are insufferable to play with>leaves western european servers to go play on north american servers>behaves no differently...
>>574931857>summer of deadlock!>deadlock did 100% fucking nothing all summer
>>574937927>a support character having back to back stuns is useless because she herself can't land a heavy melee from itok
brooooooooooooooooool
>>574938328>IS THAT A FRICKEN 1 SECOND STUN??>YOSHIIIIIIIIIIstop pretending like everyone isn't building counterspell and completely negating an ivy everywhere outside of archon
Uhh brosSilver is winningWe need to damage control FAST
thats weird something must be wrong with my stream it seems like silver is actually doing good here but all /dlg/ posters know this is literally impossible as she is the weakest hero in the entire game and can do nothing but drag a team down
>>574931526nerf rapid recharge (require an imbue) and escalating exposure (increase the stack count to get full effect or reduce the amp)
>>574938518>*awoos all over you and instantly wins the game*nothin personnel
>>574938634goober just really wants to win and he was given oses to help him do that
its funny that even in pro matches you can still tell exactly who is going to win solely based off draft. balance is fine though guys don't worry!
>>574938476oh so now it's not just a 4.8k investment but a 8k and 3 slots investment for one (1) ability?
>Silver gets a kill on rift>Still 1v3>Manages to survive long enough that the rift draws, gets another kill, and her team comes back in to clean up>Gets out aliveI thought this character was unplayable...
silver is F tier and goober is a retard seeker tho?
>>574938765Which team do you think is going to win?
>infernus goes in alone 1v3 because he thinks he can kill a 1/2 hp venator with stun up and get outAny wonder the Silver is winning, she's playing against seekers
>>574938925based off draft? mlc. I don't keep track of this enough to know the skill between teams or players so I can't say to that end
eido was holding these boys back
>>574939084I accept your concession.
silver sisters? what exactly is happening?
>>574938773you can literally just buy counterspell. debuff reduction counters both and renders the stuns garbage. are we really pretending like you couldn't just dodge out of the second stun? because you most definitely can.
>>574939208I don't even know what I'm conceding
>drafting driftershiggydiggy
>>574939280My wife is STRONG
ok silver sisters how are we going to spin this 11/0/14 silver game
>>574937646you get increased stuns with the final perk on the statue and every echo shard buttstomp build has superior duration and the back to back stun. You probably think double dagger haze is fine also lol
>>574939472goober is the best player in the world actually
>>574939472poppers inted
>>574939630echo shart should be removed, yes
>>574939630I play Ivy all the time. A silver waltzing around with weighted shots + debuff reducer completely invalidates it. They can quite literally break out of the stun and fuck off before the second one lands. Are you forgetting it's a heavily projected animation or something?
>>574939472polymarket rigging
>No I won't buy the counter items>I'm just going to cry and clamour for nerfs insteadforget this general is seeker subhumans sometimes
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>574939084I think it's less of a balance issue in this instance and more just a worse overall team comp. The other team's comp feels more aimless. MLC's team is perfectly happy to just run it down on them and the other team has little way to really counter that. Replace like Mina with Pocket and Venator with Geist and MLC's team is still fine.
mlc without eido is like eg without sumail im not watching
inhouse379TD
>>574940263mlc's comp was solid but more importantly popper's comp was shit. just bad picks that don't even play great with each other
can you picture eido's face if mlc 2-0 this?
16/0/23 most player damage silver uhhhh how are we downplaying this sisters???
>>5749405982/14 infernus 2/12 drifter
16 kills 0 deaths oh my Yoshi Silver is so weak...
>>574940598>le invincible hero with built in vampyric built in spellslinger built in warp stone built in cheat death>wow how did she do so good bros????
SHE'S WEAK PLEASE BUFF HER SHE'S UNPLAYABLE NO IT DOESNT MATTER ETERNUS 6 PLAYERS DONT COUNT ONLY AT MY ELO (ALCHEMIST 1 WHERE I MISS LITERALLY EVERY ABILITY AND LOSE LANE AND HAVE NO IMPACT) IS SILVER WEAK IT'S THE HERO'S FAULT IT'S NOT ME IT'S NOT ME IT'S NOT ME IT'S NOT ME IT'S NOT ME IT'S NOT ME PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BUFF
>>574937646ivy downplayers at it again I see
Need silver pubes
>>574940651QUICK TRANNY SILVER XISTERSDEPLOY THE DEFLECTION EVEN THOUGH THOSE PLAYERS WON LAST WEEKOH MY SCIENCE WE DID IT REDDIT
All these but unironicallyAlso Infernus and Drifter are complete obvious shit heroes and need immediate buffs
Need ivy pubes
>>57494078142% debuff resistance for a WHOPPING 4.8k investment drops superior duration ivy stuns to 1.3s and a subsequent one to 1.1s because of CC diminishing returns. maybe test this shit out before arguing in bad faith again you retarded faggot.
Didn't ask, buff Silver.
>>574940858thick green moss
>>574933546its the riot games and blizzard players having a whinge as usual>its not fair if I can't control my character>its not fair that they can equally shut me down compared to me going invinciblethey lose their mind if they have to suffer because of any mechanic more complicated than having a bigger number>what do you mean I need to care about my positioning?>why would I need to be careful of certain heroes ranges?>I shouldn't need to be careful of who is visible!!the game will continue to go in a direction they don't like, they will continue to whinethen they will quit and all will be well
>>574940764>Gun Drifter instead of the giga busted one shot spirit buildLmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>574940836>SCIENCE mentionedi play dynamo too my fellow gentlesir*tips fedora*
>>574940809
>>574940926blah blah blah didn't readyour overtuned hero is getting nerfed next patch
>>574941026upload the full image
>>574940992>playing the spirit build with 4 other spirit heroes on the teamoraclelow L-R retard spotted
How am I in Oracle and people don't know what character's kits do. Why yes, the Unstoppable Haze who just used their 2 with Ricochet and who has bullet lifesteal can heal a lot of damage in a teamfight. That's 60% lifesteal on 2-4 outgoing targets.Did people get to Oracle solely through mindlessly spamming one hero and never counterbuying?
>>574941087>full imageIt's just a sketch of a tree.
>>574941126Draft any other hero then Drifter looked like shit that game
>>574941127Bro, you're talking to a general full of people that have no idea what any other character does.
>>574941127new players get put into phantom bud, oracle is below average
>>574941046stoneform animation from start to stomp is 1.5s. if the stun only lasts 1.3s with cheap debuff resistance I want you to go ahead and guess what the person does with that opening while you are activating echo shard and initiating another 1.5s animation. this is all of course assuming they don't just go even cheaper again and counterspell your first stomp and fuck off for the second. 9.6k investment hard countered by 3.2k.
>>574940764>Eido leaves MLC>MLC starts to winI'm nooooticing. The worst part is this fag has a following and people will take him serious because they're parasocial faggots.
>>574941046>didn't readYeah maybe that's the problem. Maybe if you did you'd counter buy instead of bitching about non issues. This game really needs to stop being balanced around seeker retard opinions like yours. Hang yourself
>>574940764>near top damage billy with no gun spikelel
>>574941359nta but no one is buying echo shard on ivy to chain stun people and think its a good investment.yeah if you catch like 3 people and stun them twice its crazy and insane and you can do your heavy melees and do a gorillion damage and solo a teambut you just buy it have like an insane amount of invincibility and healing? it pretty much lets you survive a crazy amount in the middle of fights and lets you easily cancel a lot of shit, any decent player will wait to use certain spells until after you use stone form, echo shard pretty much them from being able to play around it in this way.and you don't really need to do shit on your own, its great setup for your team, you don't need to try to melee and solo kill people as fucking ivy, that isn't the point of the character
>>574941491They've won NA most weeks since May though?
SILVER SILVER SILVER
>>574941491they split because they had a coach by the name of rangers or some shit and saiah told him to shove his drafts up his ass.now the teams back to saiah/player drafts.
>silver is an offmeta heroYou heard it from your caster heroes here first, silvertrannies
>>574941617in a sea of anti heals the heal really doesn't count for shit unless you're dispelling yourself before. yes she's disruptive but look at dota. 11s stun on lion. it's normal to have control characters in mobas. what isn't normal is for the counter to be budgeted so freely into a bunch of items people would want anyways. the game has CC diminishing returns, several ways of just outright dodging stuns (warpstone, counterspell, ethereal shift, indomitable etc) and then debuff resistance out the ass. it's crazy how tools to counter CC are way more abundant in this game than dota and yet people pretend like they don't exist and control characters need to be useless, actually. bet you wouldn't see anyone calling for CC DR or debuff resistance to be removed from the game if stuns only lasted a second. they don't want to counter buy, they don't want to be punished for shit positioning. I don't think they even want to be playing a moba frankly.
ZP and Jake are just the better casters. Even their banter is just better. Whenever the others are in they always play a game of chicken and whine about having to "go first" and start the banter during the slow boring part of the beginning of the match where not a lot is happening and they just kind of slop through it.
Oh no...Silver's doing well again...
>>574941625That's a man and you're gay.
SILVER FINALLY DIED, WE'RE SO BACK SILVERBROS
>more EU players on NA teams than NA playersnice game deadtards.
>>574943123says more about NA than trannylock
>burst heavy comp vs super tanky comp + viscous draft won't save this game if all the players are retarded
>>574942971That's my wife (female) and she (female) is lovely
>>574942361>2024>scrimming with people in a team>some guy in the team pulls us a coach>"cool whats his experience">they stay intentionally vague about it>doesn't sit around with us for VOD reviews>doesn't offer any feedback on individuals in games>just hops into voice while we're drafting and tries to push some guy to play support mcginnis>"let me know how it goes">everyone thanks him>he leaves call>doesn't actually analyse anything and just makes vague statements about coordination and becoming 'cohesive as a team'>basically just LARPing as a coach>what the fuck? >ask earnestly what it is this guy does and why we're listening to him for drafts>it comes out that he's archon, that the two retards dragging our team down are basically the same rank and we as eternus players are listening to the whims of pisslows>try to point out how ridiculous this is>no one takes it seriously, they insist that these guys are 'motivated' and we can teach them>they proceed to constantly undermine my call outs and shift the entire dynamic of our team from aggressive and deadly to pussies that just bail from every single objective because 'we might die'>eventually just lose my patience and point this out in a review>the low ranks go behind my back and convince the eternus players I'm too 'toxic' to work with>they believe them and ditch me as their captain>quickly part ways with the shitters because obviously they're bad and dragging them down>they go form a new team >without their support player/shotcaller/drafter>falls apart in two weeks and they all permanently retire from the gamewe went from being a force of nature to abysmal dog shit because we tolerated the presence of people who didn't belong in competitive play. I should've just protested and left way sooner. but I stood by and watched our team die entertaining a pair of scandinavian homosexuals larping as strategists. what a shame.
silver is probably the least attractively designed wolf girl I've ever seen
>>574942835>>574943081>*fails to kill apollo, gets parried by nigfernus and dies*spoke too soon silvertroons...
calico just rapes the fuck out of me the second I hear the meow but I just dont see how she does so much damage
>eido was holding mlc backits over
>>574943752>it comes out that he's archon, that the two retards dragging our team down are basically the same rank and we as eternus players are listening to the whims of pisslowsA /dlg/ team?
>>574943923never trust those wasian types
>>574942565>they don't want to counter buy, they don't want to be punished for shit positioning. I don't think they even want to be playing a moba frankly.look I agree with you 100%I was even the anon who just a few posts before my last was saying how its just people coming from other games where they go out of their way to not punish players for awful positioning, no foresight, and not actually engaging with the game and the enemies in it, be it overwatch schizos who just want to shoot enemies or league of legends faggots who want to buy the same shit every game and just cry when they need to actually think.I have 0 issue with echo shard, was just stating where I think the real value of the item is on a character I sometimes play.the shit I see posted about the item is just talking about people using it badly and its most meh uses.so many people lose their shit about refresher in this game as well and I just don't see it, it just seems like awful retarded players who don't want to actually adapt mid match
Silver is literally the only hero where people cheer for her to do badly.
distinct lack of shiv in these games
>>574941357Oracle is absolutely not below average, that Lash just shouldn't have been in the game he had no understanding of the game beyond fullsend and try to kill someone or die trying.Maybe on Lash that's all it takes but they had a Dynamo and the guy never once did an ult into dynamo combo the entire game.
>>574944223And that's a good thing
>>574944045>dynamo builds refresher unstoppable>inform my team that they can just buy unstoppable too and he stops being a hero>1 person bothers>we lose the game because of it and they all bitch and moan about dynamo being unfun to play intoone unstoppable in 40 minutes and people will still cry. this is what I mean with people not buying counters. you can literally tell them how to win the game and they'll refuse to. they just want the game baseline to play differently. they hate that the game expects them to think and buy countermeasures. so yeah I can only assume they're retards at that point. marvel rivals, overwatch, take your pick.
this sperg streaming is way better than that other yellow sperg streamer
>>574944419>unstoppable for beboplolretard
>mfw carried a nearly lost match by pure aggro retardation as Abrams>phantom 3.>MY SKIN IS COLD.
>one team makes a blunder 10 minutes in>non offending team snowballs until they winit seems like you can't even stop it, even in pro matches. how do you fix this?
spirit abrams is fucking boring, retvrn to melee charge
>>574944262people just have an easy enough time getting into ascendant after they spent thousands of hours playing other mobas and then pretend like anything below it is below average. they don't understand that there's a lot of inexperienced players out there. it's like derangement. eternus 5+ is top 0.1% but they pretend like if you're below top 5% you're below average. kinda fucking silly.
>that lash throwWhat a way to go
slowing hex good item, who knew
Silvertroons appear to have stopped posting for some reason.Odd.
warden needs a rework. not even because his kit is too strong, its just super boring. whenever warden's strong its because all his stats are bloated his kit is just ok but boring
this game would be miles better without the OGNB heroes no cap
>>574944512go to bed anon you're tired>>574944574remove urn and rift from the game and make jungle/mid boss more interesting. the game should be based on invasions, ambushes, traps, diversions. the fact it's devolved so heavily into aoe slop on mandatory circles is all thanks to hopoo. he gloats about it on twitter openly. his shitty risk of rain 2 game had forced circle objectives and he implanted it into deadlock too.
>>574944937>yeah sorry bro you have to buy dispel magic against me to counter my silencing rape cage>btw I'm gonna throw inhibitor grenades at you every 4 seconds that also stam drain
>high wr heroes are regarded as balanced or even underpowered>mcginnis>seven>kelvin>graves>low winrate heroes are regarded as overpowered and in dire need of nerfs>venator>pocket>shivwhat causes this disconnect? Other genres are capable of separating perception from reality. For example in AoE2 the Chinese are known to be pretty bad unless you have top tier micro/macro, resulting in changes that nerf and buff different aspects of their kit.Meanwhile in mobas, shiv barely sees pro play and has a bad winrate in mm but people still cry for nerfs. Or Silver being useless unless you consistently land her skillshots and valve having no idea how to balance her for either mm or pro play so they blanket nerf her entire kit.it feels like moba players have no idea what they're talking about especially in comparison to other genres.
>>574942835>>574943081
>>574944946>>574944943it's starting to look like hopoo is straight up responsible for this game going EoS this year
>>574944419yeah the lack of stuff that pierces unstoppable just makes it such a good answer to ccidk I basically don't ever care if I get cc'd when I play, it just isn't an issue, but I also tend to play a lot tankier heroes than squishier so who knows, but even when I play seven I definitely build him a lot brusier than most people and still have no trouble doing enough damage (gotta be alive to deal damage, a carry shouldn't be squishy either).Probably the most telling thing about it is if you try to mention roles to anyone they lose their shit, or how poor most players macro is.let alone if you actually at content produced surrounding the game, people just are fucking clueless
>>574943752Same shit happened to me>2025>Ascendant>Find a solid 3 man squad to stack with>Insane synergy win streak is unreal>Teammates want to fill the last two slots with their buddies>"Sure why not, what could go wrong?">Friends turn out to be Oracle and Archon>Have to babysit them the entire match>They constantly wander off and feed, completely ignore calls and make stupid calls>Squad keeps making excuses and defending them for playing like complete apes>Group eventually falls apart everyone stops playing together>A few of them still play and are perma-hardstuck Ascendant>Meanwhile I hit Eternus 6First two weeks of that stack were pure magicstill get depressed thinking about how high we could've climbed if those two retards didn't get free boost and refuse to git gud didn't find a better team either just solo queing these days
Alchemist retard here. Invisibility + Rend build.What upgrade should I take?Spirit Burn? Mystic Reverb? Mercual Magnum? Diviner's Kevlar? Something else?All of these are good but not sure what I should choose.
>>574945136invoker had a god awful win rate and for a time was one of the most picked heroes in dota for pro play
>>574945136it's because most players are too shit to realise those heroes suck without a lot of farm. they don't understand their win con is forcing fights when they're weak, invading them in jungle and closing out the game before 40 minutes. meanwhile shiv pocket venator yamato etc rape you pretty consistently for most of the game. it's more in your face and what you experience quite immediately after the laning phase. and they only get exponentially worse to deal with if they snowball off of anyone. which drives the perception they're OP. people perceive those characters you listed as being weak because early game they actually are. their entire lens is in the early-mid game and they brush off the late game as a sure thing. like of course the seven is good at 40k. so I guess they're more forgiving towards it cause they weren't getting raped dry by it since lane? but the thing is, those heroes have high winrates because when they hit those power spikes they do just swing their dick around. people don't identify and respect that they have to try close a game out by a certain point so they consistently go very late and that's where they shine.that's my theory.
Allcaps upplayers must be a little upset now. Or they got lost?
>>574945136>Meanwhile in mobas, shiv barely sees pro playIn the last 10 weeks of DLNS hero priorities he's been picked/banned 3 times twice, and otherwise, he's always at the top or near the top. What are we looking at to decide he barely sees pro play? Because there are heroes that are completely unpicked and unbanned almost every week.
>buy glass cannon>every single one of my kills gets stolen>end game with like 1 stackWhat a frustrating item
when i end a match 50k damage and 10 kills above the next person on my team i should be given the power to permaban one of them
>>574945587I know this pain too well. Outside of the scrimming I've had a couple of friend stacks form and fall apart because someone just HAD to introduce their shitter friend into the group who has no interest in listening or learning or improving. The last bit is what really gets me. It's not that they're new, it's that they have no intention of doing anything but sandbagging and expecting us to just boost them as high as we'll take them. Like fuck off. I'm eternus 5 myself. Trying to break into e6 solo queue support. Are you NA or EU? Maybe we could play some day.
>>574945714>Fortitude on WardenDo people really buy that on him?
>>574946073Glass cannon is literally only good if you're haze with wallhacks or 30k ahead as drifter and bever anytime else.
>>574945598what is the goal with this build? pray that the entire enemy team doesn't build any spirit resist?
>>574946379>play support build>wind up with more damage and networth than a venator, shiv, wraithwhat the fuck do these people be doing for 35 minutes
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>mlc bait ppoppers ppuppils into picking silver They just won gg
>>574946603Basically sneaking around the map invisible looking for picks or at least push sidelines and escaping with invisibility. Has worked so far in shitlow ranks.
>>574946818Silver will win this time!
>>574945598spirit burn or reverb are the two items that are best suited to what you want, lean spirit burn if you need more antiheal otherwise go reverb for raw damage
Knockdown should do nothing if you are touching ground when it hits, its how I thought it would work when I first started playing.I think it would give you a chance to down dash and avoid it. Maybe it can give the user a buff or reduces the items cool down in exchange for the tightened condition.
>hotpoo joins dev team>game gets insane popularity spike and quickly falls to fucking shitAwesome.
>>574947278nah, it's already a low duration stun based on fall distance. if anything knockdown needs to also deal some damage based on fall distance.
Hmmmm yeah I'm thinkin' nerf Holliday.
>play venator>gutshot someone directly onto a wall>they clip through the detection and don't get stunned>gutshot someone at the most retarded angle possible>quantum state collapses and they become entangled with a single proton of a prop 20 meters away and get stunned
>>574947945>I miss when Holiday was a honest hero>Holiday was never a honest hero
>>574947964it has a lot to do with your look angle as the venator for some reason
>>574947270Does Reverb do that much damage? I just use it for lifesteal and movement slowYeah I'm leaning towards Spirit Burn too
she's so... hecking... weak...
>>574947964Fun fact: you can stun people in low ceiling rooms and at the skybox by simply flicking your mouse upwards, no need for a wall.
silver bros...we...we can still downplay
silver xisters?! how can we downplay getting a 5k off being parried and 200 hp……
Cute and strong
>gets 5 kills when everyone is arranged into a blob for her>instantly dies through rejuv in the very next fightSilverkeks?
>>574947964its because of how the spell works that makes it still stun even if they don't hit a wall.pretty much it shoots a cone in front of you and then it checks from your angle and the angle you are looking at if there is a wall there within a certain distance behind them and then they get stunned and knocked backit isn't from the center of the cone like you might think, so if someone is to the side of you a little you don't need to knock them back from the angle between them and you, but from where you are looking if there is a wall thereso you can do shit like knock someone back sideways slightly while looking towards a wall and stun them with a side shotand even stupider is when you stun them into the roof if its a low ceiling because you looked up at an angle towards the roof, they just get knocked back away from you, hit nothing, but also get stunned for having a wall (the roof) thereit just works in a weird way and you can exploit that
As someone who played GT through a gorillion patches where he was one of the worst heroes in the game only until very recently where they finally gave him suitable buffs I sure wish my benchmark for "unplayable F tier" was Silver
W-why is every good player buying Tankbuster?This cannot BE
>Tankbuster is good because muh e-celeb bought it!!!Seekertards, everyone.
>>574946540what are the better options and or why is it bad? I have it on my build but just cause its what other top builds have
>>574948084her barrels used to be honest. her jump pads were never honest.
Tankbuster is bad because...IT JUST IS, OKAY?
MLC be like lets just draft the 5 most annoying niggers in the game>>574949165what build you use?
Slowing Hex is useless. 3.5 seconds is nothing.>ohh but it shuts down Apollohe uses his free built in counterspell and teleports away
>>574939112>>574941491>>574943923Lol
>>574949732its a good item but people who act like it at all counters apollo are retarded
Silver won again..
>>574949831its true, but sadly they lost dew and fishcake along with him
>>574949732are you a time traveler from february
>>574949662I think people rip on it because there are better options like escalating if you have a good way of applying consistent spirit damage like mercurial, torment, etc.It's obviously a good initiator item but outside of that its kinda just a dead item in your loadout.I do admit.anytime I see a support hero on my team buy it, I want to shoot myself in the foot.
>>574950021And that is why we love her
Why didn't they buy curse? Are these pros retarded? If they had curse they kill the pocket and win the teamfight
>>574929692This faggot... how would you gen alpha kids say lacks ball knowledge?
>>574950146how do people not cringe out of their very soul with shit like this
>>574950287s-silver xisters . . . ?they’re winning on our super duper weak hero and being transphobic . . . .
Calico's moving up in the world
how do people think yoshi is going to "fix matchmaking"? the reason games have gotten much worse is because 50% of the playerbase left so he has to match unbalanced games together or queue will be 20 minutes
>>574950759Silver players are always (rightfully) transphobic
>>574950904idk, ask yoshi, he's the one who came up with the idea of a "patch that's all about fixing the matchmaking"
Why do so many sloptubers have a weird boycrush obsession with xqc?
>>574945598I'd probably replace something with Spirit Snatch or Lifestrike for even more heavy hits, otherwise I guess Reverb. Also potentially Tank Buster
>>574951612in every game not just deadlock you have the regular streamers of a game and then you have the "tourists" i'll call them (big streamers who are checking out the game because of ad money or just because they want to)whenever a tourist comes to a game every regular streamer is all over their dick to try and leech some of their viewership, it's entirely transactional, wouldn't think about it too hard
when I play silver I do well in the midgame but then I start to feel really fragile later on, are there any key survivability items I should consider?
>>574949165>he was one of the worst heroes in the game only until very recentlyuh huh sure buddy we believe you
>>574951701>I'd probably replace something with Spirit Snatch or Lifestrike for even more heavy hitsAbout that, while I know I'm kind of a scrub, I find little reason to use melee at all as DrifterWhy risking getting parried when both your m1 and Rend deal a gorillon damage?Unnecessary risk, originally, in that build of mine, I had Melee Charge, but after realizing I dont really use Heavies (outside movement techs) I dropped it
>>574949165he was good on initial release when his 2 had a real duration, it's a shame talons relegated to le funny spirit bomber instead of bow rapist
At what rank do players gain sentience? I just lost the easiest match because of the dumbest fucking mid call of all time
>>574953417asc
what do you even buy giga late as venator? some of his T3 items are just too good to get rid of
>>574953537not even
yo why was billy in every single fucking nightshift first pick this week holy shit
>>574950786Noooo they'll nerf her again
>>574939084you are literally here every fucking week and you larp like you're not invested
>20-2 silver in competitive playshe's gonna get nerfed finally, thank you
>>574954270probably because he's retarded and only gets better the more coordinated your teamfights are
>>574955720>she's gonna get nerfed finally, thank youShe's been nerfed over and over again for the last few patches. What do you want at this point? A rework?Me too.
>>574955836just more nerfs so she's balanced well
>>574955836Probably a gutting of her kit so she does half as much damage or is half as tanky so that she's an even remotely balanced character.
>>574955573I'm here every day I just don't watch streamers. is that so hard to believe?
>>574954270It's funny because I've only ever seen one or two good chain gangs that actually impacted the match this entire night shift.
>silver trannies send death threats to vegas every time he mentions silver is strong>she goes 20-1 in competitive play and is a very strong pick altogetherwhat causes this sort of crazed transanity?
>>574956025>m1gger scum cries about m1gger counter character>m1gger counter does well in gunshit metawow no fucking shit sherlock
>>574956025>going to bat for vegas of all peoplei shiggy diggy
im first timing warden in oracle 2
>>574945241You do know that Hopoo has designed some of the worst characters in the game, right?
>>574946540He has a gigantic HP pool and desperately needs movement speed, and he has no built-in sustain.
>>574950586>the game is totally healthy guys>Half the heroes just aren't played at all
>>574930836>It's looking like the actual content update is going to be late septemberdoes he know???
>>574950586i get everything else but why is kelvin seeing 0 play?
why don't people just build gun on apollo?
I had very high hopes for this game in 2024. I don't believe in it anymore.I think this will be like Marathon, a game with a great feel and art style that is going to be ultimately niche (dead) because its gameplay is too frustrating for most people.These devs don't know what the fuck they're doing. I think they need to pick a side between shooter and MOBA and delve into that more instead of trying to fix this mess. It's just so very gimmicky and obnoxious to play.
>rack up enough leaves to get sent to low priority>lobbies are just full of dad gamers who stepped away from their keyboard one too many times>games are easier, more talkative, and more laidback
>>574957871I'm the opposite, I'm more positive about the outlook of the game than I was in 2024. That being said, I never thought it was going to be bigger than DotA or one of the popular hero shooters because the combination means higher barrier of entry, even if in the end the game is much more simple on the MOBA or shooter mechanics than any of the two. The two big filters right now are movement and readability, the rest is honestly quite simple if you come from DotA/LoL and it's obvious Icefraud wants this game's DNA to be a MOBA first. Item prices are standardized, there is virtually no last hitting involved, you can stay on lane even when you're getting bullied, everyone on the team gets cash, roles are more fluid, easy rotations means it's easier on the macro...
>>574956348>m1gger counter characterWhy do downplayers keep repeating this cliche? She's a counter to everyone in a 1v1. The only way to win against her is outnumbering and out-CCing her, which "feels" unfair and that's why silverfags whine so much. They focus on the times the enemy team groups up to kill them and never when they mow down some poor fucker with their sv_cheats 1 godmode ult.
>>574957970i had a very very different experience than you a year ago. it precisely as youd expect low prio to be. extremely mentally ill ragers and griefers all pooled together to play a match of a team based game.>games are easierprobably because theres less players in low prio so they bundle people together from a wider skill range im guessing
>>574957970when I get low prio its cheaters and people who get pissed 3 minutes into the game (as opposed to the usual 8 minutes)
>"Just pick wraith and rat">rat until I take both their shrines solo>my faggot team just can't capitalize on that>they can't win a fight to end the game
>>574958818Before ratting you need to rice so that you get at least a 15k (ideally 20k) lead on their net worth average. That way you just pop into one team fight, activate split shot (+ unstoppable if they have cc) and delete the team.Don't rat for the important teamfights late in the game.
>yappy niggers blame me for the loss>i have half their networth and have higher stats in everything but deaths at the end of the gamei genuinely think there needs to be a rank reset or something
>>574933958Calico for sure
>enemy wraith left the game 0-4>my team bebop and venator 2-14-1>they keep playing
I honestly just like Silver's gun animations and sounds. Feels 'right' to use. Out of any updates I'd like to have gun improvements the most.
Deadlock: erm you seem to be away from your computer, move your mouse or you'll be removed from matchmaking, chudSomeone's son:
imagine thinking it up and posting this
>>574932879They need to get rid of corner and edge boost. Until then, enjoy AoE CC spam prison.
>>574945858He probably meant to type Sinclair.That's a real dogshit hero that people cry about and gaslight eachother with. >"A-Actually, he's le strong and would be le OP once draft is added!">Regularly goes zero picks zero bans in pro play.
>>574957871You're literally me, holy shit. I used to shill this game to coworkers IRL as the next big thing.
>>574959724I need full image
djins mark is probably a copy of dota 2 shadow poison, the thing with dota's SD was that shadow poison is a medium speed traveling projectile with limited range and not a hitscan bullethonestly just delete the entire character and start over
>>574956348>gunshit metaGod, I wish I could play the version of the game you're on.
>>574957871I find it much more crystalized now. They'll need to have hyper aggressive onboarding and tutorials integrated into matches. Like simple GPS box routs and to important objectives, timing reminders, warning you are over extending or being too passive. Right now it's difficult to parse macro and make decisions, without prior moba knowledge. It's pretty much fighting games all over again, everyone can have fun, but it gives and impression you need a get a phd first to do so.They game will shape up with development and will need to be extremely blunt to people with what it is on release.
>>574961278neither mobas or shooters have ever had tutorials worth a damn, yet they remain incredibly popular still despite having many games with incredibly complex and obtuse mechanicsno, they don't need this retarded shit you are suggesting>warning>warning>you are overextended too far>return to your walker or you risk dyinglmao what a fucking retarded idea
>Abandon games>Nothing happens>Say my first no no words>Get comm restricted less than 1 hour laterNot that I care since I don't use comms but its funny, why are reddit fags complaining about it if you get comm banned this fast
>>574961481You just DONT GET IT. We have to censor free speech because... uhm... because.... WE JUST HAVE TO, OKAY?
>unstopable indomitable seven>they can't do shit >keep ulting>press refresher>winIt's that easy
>>574950904copy the shitty seasonal ranked games where you can only rank up until you're eternus but your badge resets to osbcurus every 3 monthsthat way people don't get sad that their badge changed into smaller badge
remember when you could counter rising ram by double jumping and then they just made you fly upwards with it if you aimed your mouse up, completely removing the counter by doing so and making it just a guaranteed CC + max HP damage ability lol
>>574950904He'll just make it so your queues will be 30 minutes outside of pisslow.
>MFW I quantum my whole team out of a big lash ult
>>574962172Hey, it wouldn't be fair to the Billy. When you push a button something awesome has to happen. Remember, button = awesome.
>>574962172That's a retarded interaction that shouldn't exist
>>574961463You are fucking retard if you don't see why proper education system inside the game is critical, especially for deadlock. Keep crying about clueless noobs and your games and kys, faggot
>>574961481comm bans are useless since communicating is meant for humans, deadlock players are all browns and trannies so your ban doesn't matter
>>574962172remember when you could dash out of lash stompsyeah me neither
>>574962627>Keep crying about clueless noobs and your gamesI have never complained about that, is that something YOU complain about a lot?because it sure fucking sounds like it is with your whinging that the game needs a "proper education system" lmaonah, it doesn'tdon't like it? go back to overwatch or whatever faggot shit u came from, no one cares.
Valve should add some more horses to deadlock.
medium bot matches are plenty difficult to me
In this game there are 4 or 5 heroes who can actually carry your whole team:SevenLashMcGuinnesDynamoand maybe Graves somethimesgood lucky carrying anybody as some fucking Mirage with his shitty teleport
>>574963948>and maybe Graves somethimesHi initiate-kun
>>574963993I'm Oracle actually
I am a 6'2" nigga from the Gambia, and I love playing Ivy in my Calais social housing.
>>574963548That's not a horse, thats an anime girl with a tail and horse ears
>>574950904There will be a ban wave/better detection against smurfs and then... idk tbqdesu
game is still hard
>>574964507dont forget the horse cock
>parry a mina ONE time in lane>they dc
>>574964423I'm 190cm toot. slavx drifter main
>>574956025She didn't go 20-1. She went 16-0 against a team that totally shit the bed, and then lost the next game and had a perfectly average game after that one.Even when the character has an excellent outing silver derangement syndrome sufferers have to make shit up. You make up stats like vegas makes up death threats. Its all shit that never happened.
>win fights>5 dead for 60+ sec>people call for mid>go and take 2 shrines, every tower and drop the patron solo before they even got midwow i love wraith no split shot
Will the matchmaking patch save Deadlock?
>>574965950Only if it bans smurfs
I remember someone posting this shit before and everyone laughedand now I find a different nigger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UG_gcpgOc doing the same shit in E6what the fuck is wrong with NA
E6 NA is Empissary 6 in EU
i get so bored when i win too much on a hero i stop playing it and pick up a new one and my rank goes to shit
>Icefrog says MM update is next week>Quasimorph 1.0 is also next weekSorry Yoshit but I shan't be playing...
deadlock anime whenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfKJ13-qqK8
glass cannon should work with assists where you atleast dealt damage to the target
>>574966601no one cares about your shitgo back to mal
>>574966452Oh no! Not your rank!!!
>Silver derangement syndromekek try not to suicide when she gets nerfed in the next patch
What do you call a hero that sucks at low ranks and stomps at high ranks?Balanced!
>>574966983just don't play in high ranks
https://statlocker.gg/heroes/masterythis page is pretty interesting. it has hero winrates stratified by matches played compared against the average wr% of corresponding hero. some notable observations:>haze has the absolute lowest skill expression of any hero>pocket has the highest>grey talon becomes viable only after 250+ matches>you cant learn lash in 50 matches>drifter has no one tricks with 250+ matches or something>m1 carries at the bottom of the list
>>574961278the game already has thisif you are in enemy territory alone your character will quip something about "i need to be careful out here"
>>574967162>infernus and haze are on par with paige's skill ceilingI fucking knew it
>>574966229>no healbane + toxic bullets to ensure antiheals after decay gets dispelledare you even healing reductionmaxxing?
There a new bug or something? why the fuck has it been two straight games where someoen cant connect and the match gets cancelled
Why is graves considered a insta 5v6 the moment you queue with her on your team? What build gives her the most impact? I really like playing her cause i like spamming minions
>>574967452probably because skulls are easily destroyed and it requires you to use them as parry baitI use this modified nahoo build which I have modified myself bit more, never used gun route, it's either skulls or if enemies have rico then zombiesphantom strike is for baiting parries but again 6400 cost is bit too much to learn how to use it so I never buy it either
>>574967650>indominablehow getone for surge of power metal skin and e shift would be cool too
Haze is RIGHT here!
I get the devs are fucking retarded but why did they give victors pain battery almost 30m range in lane
>>574966591>tfw no giant spider demon gf
>>574967864Shiv's here. We can't let him claim trophies.
>>574957515He has a really weak lane (longs cooldowns), lane matters more in pro play you don't want to keep feeding the enemy kills.Outside of that though he's comically broken, I'm sure we'll start seeing him more once there's actual money down the line and reasons to tryhard.
>enemies can always get a guaranteed light melee on a bebop if they get hooked because you can act before the bebop cangeist can also lifeswap before you can press silence wave kek, this hero is so fucking dogshit
>>574968064I'm more of an adequately sized spidercat gf enjoyer myself...
Any videos of cool parkour routs between lanes and to objectives? I feel dumb walking everywhere and constantly being out of stamina
404 spirit res not found
>>574966725its not fun playing with people below the yoshi mandated starting point of archon/oracle (except i started initiate because i played in 2024 ig, thanks)
my creep hitting seven got a trophy collector
>>574952916>I find little reason to use melee at all as Drifter >Why risking getting parriedPlease read what rend does. Please. You're basing your entire build around it please god just read what the ability does.
>>574966725lets be honest these arent fun after the novelty wears off
Why do I need to get better at the game and climb ranks
I thought NEETS were good at games thanks yoshi for giving me games like this thank you Yoshi
>>574967650gonna try this out for zombie spam, so thanks for having that category. i did that too.
>>574969202Migu is so much less interesting than the TF2 Engineer. And Graves is such a lousy "summoner".>>574969406Watch night shift and copy the pros.
>>574969495you want some things from spirit path as well obviously, I just put things you need for zombie spam without much order
it's cute how Rem says "SEE __________" for his ping lines
honest overpowered character in my team:
>>574969698also I don't know if you want surge in zombie setup
>>574968993browns/zoomers are physiologically incapable of reading literacy...
Abandoned another game again :3
>>574970185And they're arguing and raging about balance in MY Deadlock general...
>>574970185smoking doesn't make you cool or smart, gramps
I love high schooler pussy
>>574970536mein gott that average match time
why does this game have the most retarded people known to man is Dota like this? Like the shit people do is unfathomable its not just being bad at the game its being bad at a coherent thought
>>574970536almost got a bingo diagonally
>>574970536who wants to play deadlock at 3am
Literally halve the amount of souls you can get from jungling and double them for kills, what the fuck is this shit? Why does Valve think it's a good idea to reward shitters who suck at PvP to disappear in the jungle for 3 minutes and be back up to speed?
deadlock might be the only valve game where the art has sovl
>>574970847You are not entitled to my time. Feel free visit me in my jungle, if you are that desperate to attention.
>>574970847If you let the guy who was in the gutter farm safely and get back his soul deficit it's all on you. It's part of important macro (you know, one of the defining aspects of an ASSFAGGOTS...)You're telling me you can't create a gap big enough playing 5v6 for 10+ minutes?
>>574970754nta but I get less browns and smurfs at 3am.
why was this game such a stomp? all game we are just pushed way back each lane
>>574963948Haze.
>>574971612because this game sucks ass look at that not ONE slowing hex against a Holliday destroying your team not one lmao the people who play this game need to be studied
>>574928960>Shivdictawhy exactly would this be a pairingor is this just usual shiptardery
>>574963948>McGinnis>carryreplace Mcginnis with Victor and take out Dynamo he used to couple months ago not anymore I'd swap out Mcginnis and Dynamo with Wraith and Victor
pressing m1 while disarming hexed should instantly kill you
yeah i see why i lost lane u fucking useless ivy 0 dmg
getting parried in lane over 3 times should give you negative mmr no matter the outcome of the game
>>574972804ivy gun sucks ass man what do you want him to do?
>>574972875>wow i bet there's gonna be a lot of outrage from abrams and billy players about this>look inside>it's all paige and calico
i like to imagine that i'm getting my ass buttfucked whenever I get parried/knocked off a zipline
>>574973034Unhealthy cope
>>574971485need full image>>574959724still need sirs
>>574967162I don’t really get why pocket is the highest. It can’t just be landing barrage
>>574967162Which hero should I main, so /dlg/ won't make fun of me?
Unless they try to zip-line mid fight I never shoot people off them, it just feels petty
>>574968681Leif on yt>>574973486I do it literally every time they come back to lane, sometime I just randomly prefire the zip for no reason and hit someone
>>57497288160 dps? above average
>>574972346heres another game, where it was a stomp in our favor. tf is this game bro fuck yoshi and fuck you
i love seeing peelow result screens because it makes me laugh seeing people just buying shit for no reason that does nothing for them
>>574974090dont worry matchmaking update soon
>>574973034>t.least gay Ivy player
>>574973034it do kinda be like that doe>gifgod i need thisshrine maiden kitsune hero when
>>574972346uhm akshually my guide doesnt have slowing hex
I just dont get how these people think>hmm the character with a bunch of sustain and healing is killing us repeatedly maybe I should check the shop to see if theres anything to help with that hmmm nah i need tankbuster right now build says get mystic shot gotta get it man gotta get muh opening rounds
>>574974203what should i have purchased as my second t4 item? i went lightning scroll for the lolz at this point. what was the better option>
>>574974336>buy counter items>doesn't matter because you need more than one person buying them plus the rest of your team already fed them into a god
>>574974336nooo I need my crutch items I'm too much of a sissy to overcome him with raw power
>>574974356Infuser Refresher or Echo Shard
>>574974483The crutch items are the ones in the l-r
>>574974252Vindicky player, actually.>>574974276>Valve adding anything other than another DEI kino/hotpoo specialNever ever lmao.
>>574973601>Leif on ytNice thanks. Weird that I haven't encountered it before, it's all metro in my feed, can't get rid of the bugger.
Sometimes I genuinely wonder if the average player realizes when they die the enemy team gets stronger, the way people just fucking feed is insane, I have never even at my worst ever gone 0-10 yet I get it often on my team, it's sub-human
>>574975512The average player is an overwashed or marvel rivals refugee. Do the enemies get stronger when you die in those games?
>>574975512What else am I supposed to do? Not fight the enemy and shoot npcs instead? This isn't diablo
>>574975790Jeet Brawl is right there for you.
>>574973034what a whore
>Spend 95% of the game feeding and the other 5% swearing on your life your main is actually really high rank and you only did bad because you just dont care you're on an alt
>>574976438>max ult over 3what rank
>>574976827Arcanist
>>574976438>Cultist and Arcane surge on SHIV of all heroesThis guy ain't real
>see a vegas tier list>heard about this guy, apparently people like him, check it out>has a full-on meltdown about Silver, calling her S++, and saying her community is toxic What's the source of the SDS (Silver Derangement Syndrome)? She's got an awful WR and she's hard as fuck to play well. Not a Silver main, btw, I play Paige.
>>574977183Cultist is good on all heroes.
>>574977763Swap good with bad and I agree
>>574977619LISTEN BUDDY SHE'S OP OKAYI held W into her wolf form and died, isn't that broken?His most played heroes are Visc, Pocket and Grey talon which is hilarious
I wanna beat off to the green ladyshare me some good art
>>574977763>whole team buys cultistnow what
>>574978057>visc, pocket, gtIs it possible to have a more pretentious pool?
>pick graves>both enemy laners punch my skulls when i throw themgg game's lost what can ya do
>>574978461Probably not, its always the people abusing the most broken shit imagineable trying to deflect by up-playing random garbage
>>574977619cute pic
Everyone says Silver is OP butt why? what she do? I only see her rip during ult, but like duh
>>574978870bounty huntin
>>574977619this image is completely ruined by having lipstick of the same color as poop
>>574978057>plays pocket and complains about Silver having bullshitlmao what
>>574978543>throwing skulls when nothing else is happeningSmartest Graves downplayer.
>>574978057Damn, that nigga really pisses you guys off. I can feel the seethe from whoever edited that.
>>574978870I hate the werewolves
>>574979124>defending m1gger playing e-celeb/dlg/ is a fucking joke.
>unironically using the term m1ggerMetro has MINDBROKEN you
>>574978870braindead one shot combo and if you try to fight back she pops ult and goes invincible for the next 10 secs
>>574972804>>574972881ivy's gun is shit because it's all low damage high ROF and that doesn't count for shit against people who can break LOS and burst/tap fire/nuke to win trades better. you also need to track way way better and the end result is the gun still sucks. you're basically forced to play like a bitch until you get 6600 networth so you can unlock max stoneform and actually be a hero
>>574945241The recent changes since old gods reek of his influence, I'd bet money that he is the one that ruined a bunch of characters designs that werent made by him.
>>574979601>braindead one shot combo and if you try to fight back she pops ult and goes invincible for the next 10 secs + she spams grapples and is unescapable But enough about Yamato
>>574979642I genuinely don't like how they redesigned Ivy. I loved the double tether. Ivy Stoneform needed SLIGHT duration buff, like an extra 0.25s. Not this. Kudzu root is cool but losing the knock up on ult which felt made it feel synergistic with stoneform feels bad. Now you are legit forced to buy a hex/web to play the hero because people will just dodge it otherwise.
>>574979642There should be an in-game survey about how player feel about objectives, not just items and characters.I have enjoyed >some< of my time on the game since both variations of KoTH but overall enjoyment of the game is down bigly. It's just a terrible concept overall.Current urn is fine-ish, even if it still favors a small part of the cast heavily.
>>574978057I guess that idiot "pro"/streamer doesn't want Heyahooah's arrow hitbox fixed, does he? Or any of pocket's bullshit?
>>574979967>invulnerable to CC and debuffs>can't shred her tankiness>can't silence or curse her >she just teleports onto you 6 times back to back and rapes you while you can't reasonably fight back>positioning is completely nullified>movement is completely nullified>she will just keep teleporting next to you through walls and blowing low CD nukes on you until you are deadpeople will tell you to buy spirit resilience as you don't still just die anyways
>>574980421The curbstomp nerf when she gets a visual update will be deadly
>>574980468she's already in every single game I'm in at high eternus. it literally feels like she's at a 90% pick rate. you just get these talentless fucking faggots who one trick her all day and all it takes is for them to go 5-0 on a pair of retards in lane and now they're 100% going to end the game 19-2
>>574946489I am EU
>>574979445Only the obsessed silvertranny know who that guy is.
>>574979967Yamato is just as busted she just doesn't have waifufags defending her.
>>574979642After careful consideration, I came to the conclusion that whoever changed Vindicta's ult cannot be the person that designed her in the first place.>>574972420They hook up after Talon inevitably kicks the bucket.
>>574980845Explain to me how Yamato isn't a straight upgrade to silver>3 stamina base>Even more oppressive lane>Can choose when to ult>Ult resists + Unstop means she can frontline properly>Isn't cucked to melee only in ult>Grapple is the best chase tool in the gamenight and day difference
>>574980746I'm EU as well. If you have any interest in duoing sometime hit me up tawaspp@proton.me
>>574978057>Pocket is a necessary evil because tanks are so busted>I'm sick of people asking for low winrate low pickrate heroes to get nerfed (just described Silver without realising it)This game needs its own version of LS who doesn't have a fucking horse in the race
>>574981107b-but... some brownoid streamer s-said... silver is S+ tier...
how do people die 8-9 times in a game you're winning
>>574981553The sacrificial lamb that solo tanks two enemy ults before the rest of their team stops being pussies and joins the fight.
>>574981783hey it's me...
>>574981783i have the highest kp, farm, damage, kills and obj dmgthese people just overstay base when i already cleared it or waste my fucking rejuvs
>>574967162The extremes are a pretty comprehensive list of which characters are hard to pilot and which are easy. Middle of the way things get muddled, as they imply that Wraith is somehow harder than Venator.
>>574973224Negative spirit res makes half of the roster nigh unwinnable matchups in lane, it's really easy to mess up your escape options and instantly blow up.
Well fuck, I like Silver, but wanted to change to something else for goodboy points. Second pick was Yamato. Guess I'm a terrible person and will make everyone suffer. Bet my third alternative choice is busted OP too, better not tell.
>>574981553going for maelk award
>>574967162>tfw main billy and victorAm I boosted ladsAscendantshitter
How do I add duplicates of the same item in my build??? I know it can be done because I've seen other people's builds with the same item in different catagories
>>574973034SAAARR
This thing, as controversial as it is.
>>574983873Buffs when?
>the silvertranny is still here cryingfucking kek
>>574984031Yeah the silvertrannies really got mindbroken by how weak their hero is, they must pretend that it's S+++.
>>574983921An amount of weeks that's at least one more week, but no more than three more weeks
>>574984102delicious tears, keep em comingfor a hundred threads more
>>574983572he's right and should have dropped a slur
>>574984364She's trash and she'll get buffed, cry about it tranny.
>>574984386slow and steady wins the race
>>574979445>His most played heroes are Visc, Pocket and Grey talonall i know is none of these are straight m1gger heroes, does he actually play wraith ven vin
>>574984472>n-no you *sobs*lmao
>>574984102>>574984364>>574984472Why don't we compromise and you can both be half right?>she's trash >and she'll get nerfed anywayThere, now you can both be happy.
Let's be real, no one actually thinks Silver is good, right?
>>574982580Yamatos gameplay is awful she really needs a rework. I personally switched to Billy as my default bruiser since he's strong and fun to play
here's your haze bro
>>574985134based
>>574973224Troonket players are just that retarded.
>>574979601>one shot combo???
>>574980261Feels good to me, besides the geometryKoth is a fundamentally different objective and your hero might just suck at it if it’s squishy
delete apollo from the game no one worth listening to would complain
>>574967162this is interesting but without rank separation it's hard to tell how relevant a lot of this data is
>lane with a bebop mid>makes it his mission to get hit by every vexing bolt>his preferred method of healing is diving the enemy guardian when he has 20% hp>0/6/0 at 8 minutes>I start roaming and getting kills>lose mid walker at 12 minutes>he abandons, someone else says "he had to go eat dinner sorry" in chat
>teammate buys echoshard(on anything)I afk
How do you guys find people to play Deadlock with? I really want to make friends through deadlock but i have pretty bad social skills.
Vyperfags be like "Dayum, dis Kermit is hot fire!" and go in for the kiss
>>574986067if the matchmaking update doesn't add soloq i'm just uninstalling tbqhdesufam
the only way this game can be saved with MM system is abandon the 3 hero bullshit
>>574986634She could probably swallow a man whole
>>574986959yeah i mean it obviously needs contentlike 15 more heroes, reworks, new models, finish the fucking map etc
I love how everyone does well in the game but you always ALWAYS get that oen fucking guy going 2 and 9 or something that brings everything else down its so fucking annoying man
>>574987128>up 40k, enemy morale in shambles>mid about to spawn>literally the most free win you can imagine>dynamo decides he NEEDS to steal the enemy double sinners RIGHT NOW by himselfit has to be a mental illness or something with how consistently this shit happens
why is there no armor piercing rounds item for spirit
kinda feels like valve doesnt like the game and wants it to kinda go away i mean what the fuck are these updates? the game sucks
>>574988028
>>574986959One tricks will NEVER be respected, upped it to 5 hero min
>>574988624There's only like 2 fun heroes in this game, why would I ever select more? If I get a hero that isn't the two fun heroes I will just grief, not my fault the game is like this.
>>5749871282/9 is excessive, but TO BE FAIR (and to play devils advocate) the nature of the gameplay of mobas is that one side is stronger than the other, and so someone is always going to play weakside and be at a disadvantage so that his teammates on the other side of the map can get more value
>>574988779yes, getting rid of niggers like you is good for the game.
>>574988963i feel like thats only true in dota
So edge boosting is a wall jump that happens when you wall stick-slide past the corner of the wall, but before it counts as double jump? If I get brown dust cloud it's right timing and blue it was too late.
>>574971409PUT ON SOME CLOTHES IVY YOU WHORE
>>574989001What kind of a nigger are you to think that there's more than two fun heroes in this game?
>>574958424>Virtually no last hitting involved>The game's entire set of guns for characters are all homogenized and boring solely because they all need to be able to last hit the stupid orbs The movement systems are also not fun to learn or execute, it's all just source engine bugs that the devs somehow think make the game better despite making it look retarded to just move around. Having bugs in your game that invalidate the usage of normal movement mechanics like dash-jumps and regular wall jumps is just stupid, especially when they are clearly not going to provide tutorials for how to do them.Roles are not more fluid either, the devs make sure to stomp out alternate playstyles for characters, or they just force them to play one, like how Bebop is just a hook bot.
>>574961463The games are popular with third world subhumans who don't care if they win or lose, they just want to be animals throwing themselves at eachother and getting carried by the white man's burden of playing with them.
is the update in 4 hours?
>>574989173There is a weak side in deadlock too
>>574990124they already said there was going to be an update next week
>>574990436so it got postponed again lol
The closer this content gets pushed to winter the more risky it becomes, if it’s mid it will get devoured by some fotmOn the other hand I would not want to drop the same time as deadlock, asking to be mogged
>>574990381there's literally not, its mirrored and there's no "offlane"safe lane tower in dota 2 is literally designed to fall first
>>574989173>>574990381left lane is weaker because it has no t1 camps and the other side has them, veils to hide behind and the vent to the bridge buff is also therebut it's not terribly uncommon to just roll a stronger duo than them and steal their shit anyway because you don't have roles to put your carry in the strong lane
deadlock might be the most zoomer game ever i've never ran into so many "ong"
>>574990842left lane on your side, right on theirs*3d moba moment
>>574990842i see what you meani wonder which heroes will evolve to be mid/offlane
Is there a way to prevent mantling on low edges and wall jump off of them instead?
>>574990734There is more jungle on one side, the distance from tower to the bridge is different, there is different amounts of cover, one side has a t1There is a weakside
>>574991190nvm, you need to look away and it will not trigger
>>44276924grim
Rat hero?
>>574940948>and all will be wellbro i don't know if you realize this but you really don't want any more people to quit the game right now
What is the proper build on Paradox?Bombs?
>>574994334gun with bombs on the side, but you need to aim
>>574994334carbine builds still work>get shot with 20% resists>eat a 3k nuke after spirit burn is doneepic....simply epic...
>>574994934>resists>mattering at all in deadlock
>>574995146turns out you have to just buy counterspell instead to stop nigger spells from deleting 80% of your health
>>574991106I had a framework from a while back but it assumes a lot about metagame like 3 roles and even stat distribution, from what I remember I have some spirit nukers in mid and tanky boys in offlane
>>574994334Yes bombsIf you go carbine you're throwing
>>574994934>carbine builds still workdo they?double bomb feels like the only viable build
Whole week of no hope... no hope
I don't get slide hopes. Niggas do 3 I get barely two with slow down. Do you need to airstrafe to keep momentum?
>>574994934i don't believe you, post footage
>>574995306Yeah the game sucks because the best defensive options are just 'turns off that ability' instead of 'reduces inevitable damage taken'.Doesn't help that counterspell and dispel magic also give nice stats on top of being overpowered as fuck active items. Counterspell should take up one of your active item slots desu.
>>574996420You need to abuse bugs to do so.
>>574996420you build momentum by air strafing>>574996743kys
>>574991106>>574995595Found it, general idea was to have a frontliner(referring to position, the mid frontliner is a low vit hybrid assassin)and backliner for each lane and a gun/spirit split for each lane to prevent counter itemization. The colors represent what you would primarily invest in with the example split being 8k/8k/4.8kIt’s more of a general guide rather than a Procrustean bed, under this a potential offlane would be gun Geist with rem and mid could be something like a pocket/venator
>>574997493>durr movement bugs totally make the game better and not at all even more retardedt. oracleshitter
>>574970536metroGOD
i like yam because i can just ignore all the bullshit in ult
>>574998686>core feature of source engine for 20+ years, if not 30>bug(You)
I miss orange lane.
yeah i give up man
>>574999196Holy basedI'd give up if I was against that too
>>574999196kinda compy, mirin the value tho?
>>574998686retardbro...
>>574998901>core feature>makes literally every game with it worse and the devs are too lazy to fix it
>>574999651>i cant do it so therefore its bad(You)
>>574999196Show the enemy comp. Maybe iq too high.
>>574999196sovlyou l2r buyers just wouldn't understand. this is what trve deadlock looks like.
>>574999196based
Do wall jumps after 1st one deliberately force you down? It won't let me wall to wall upwards like prince of Persia
>>574999196424134 acolyte.
>>574968993I know what it does, you get way more damage going for spirit than melee for RendAlso going for Spirit is way more safer since you can play it longer range than risking it getting too close and fucked
>>575000079yes unless you are celeste or have magic carpet
Why are russians on EU servers again?Why can't these submental troglodytes keep to their own shithole?No one likes them.
>>575000079>You are able to execute multiple Wall Jumps in succession; the first Wall Jump is normal, but subsequent wall jumps have significantly weaker vertical launch.>This mechanic is called Wall Jump Fatigue.>Wall Jump Fatigue is an invisible meter which determines the power of your next Wall Jump.>When you Wall Jump, you are fatigued for 1.25 seconds. Attempting to Wall Jump in this time period will result in a weakened Wall Jump, and the fatigue meter will be set back to 1.25 seconds.>Upon landing, Wall Jump Fatigue is reset to normal levels.>While in the air, both types of melee (Light Melee and Heavy Melee) will trigger Wall Jump Fatigue.
>>574997853Whoops, wrong variant. There is two possible combos given the criteria and I think this one is strictly better, it puts the gun bias into strong lane and the spirit bias into mid. Spirit makes more sense for mid for ganking and gun makes more sense to protect the vulnerable low vit backline carry, it’s more coverage through sustained dmg rather than cooldown based like spirit which is exploitable
>>575000627thanks doc
>>574999326>>574999380>>574999852>>574999908>>574999969still won dont ask me how
>walker being taken>die>look at minimap>4 teamates are in jungle>sharing camps>ask what they were doing instead of helping at walker>"farming"get me out of seeker holy fuck
>>575001573the guy who farms is getting out of seeker faster than the guy who hangs around at a walker he knows he can't defendhope this helps!
>>575001763They're not even doing wave clears, they're sharing jungle camps.Are you fucking retarded?
>>575001845more souls than you got trying to 1v4 defend
>>575002034Actually no they didnt, I consistently had more souls than them because I focused on lane rather than doing solely jungle farm.You're talking out your ass overnigger tourist
>>575000512Valve is a shit company. On the other hand I get a lot of Americans in my games late at night and I'm happy about that.
>>575002131>I was the most farmed person in the lobby but I still couldn't carrystill not beating the hardstuck seeker allegations
Infernus bvlls where we @?>apply afterburn>instant dopamine release every time without fail>3 souls in a jar>start leaking precum
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198707807224wow i love palyign against cheaters boosting niggers
>>575000512um if there were no russians no one would play on euRusnigs unironically think this, they are too fucking retarded to realize that they are the reason the game is dead in eu
>>575000581>movement trannies think this is something that you can inherently understand without being told that it exists in-gamedeadlock's movement garbage is not fun to execute
>>575002734>i-i have to read?>AAAAAAAAIEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN
>>575002947Please direct me to where you can see in-game that they have this written. If you cannot, it's a shit mechanic and should be removed.
>>575003101see>>575002947
>>575002263I would rather get based ruskies than amerimutts talking about Israel and blacks
>>575003347It do be like dat
>>575002734I mean, this is just an exact explanation, I figured pretty much all of this by doing the jumps, just needed to confirm.Wall jumps are more intuitive than source crouch-jumping and even that can be taught by miming to someone, no words needed.
>>575003347>t. ivan
>>575002734Based and true. Its gimmicky. I have 4k hours in cs and I dont know any smokes because thats gay.If you're running around you're not shooting people in the face enough. I swear to god it only appeals to reddit timmies.
>>575003484Yeah, it's an exact explanation that is not provided ANYWHERE in-game at all. All of Deadlock's movement tech is just shitty source engine quirks/bugs that people think make the games better, but in reality all it does is make them less fun to play due to making even moving around require reading a guide.
>>575003101>Please direct me to where you can see in-game that they have this writtenyou tested wall jumping and learned how it works >>575000079what's the issue?
ayo where lil nigga going????
do you think we'll get a crumb or a teaser of content with the matchmaking update or will it just be a massive placebo
>>575000512>only Russians play CS>only Russians play DOTA>plays Deadlock>WTF WHY ARE RUSSIANS PLAYING THIS
>>575003823He was yapping so much nobody bothered to pick him up so he literally grew legs to get his ass across town
>>575003945Americans or Russians decrease the enjoyment of the lobby by at least 30%
>>575004239Americans atleast have the decency to keep it in EnglishA Russoid it's a 50% anytime they open their mouth you hear some goblin speak
>>575004239Sorry you're not in global superpower club, try applying next time.
>>575004623>Russia is a superpower KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>575004462Because they assume everyone else is russian. And you know what? Most of the time, they aren't wrong. I've seen too many times how in mid-game a russian starts chatting, which would prompt revealing at least 2-3 other players to be russian on the team, if not on a mic but in chat.
>>575004623>russia>superpowerI wonder where this poster is from
>>575004983>>575005038>endless seethe about US>endless seethe about Russia>endless seethe about ChinaYup, I smell small nation cope
>>575005212I said nothing about China or the USKeep coping Ivan
>>575005212Europe is bigger than the US and Russia combined
>>575004462>Americans atleast have the decency to keep it in EnglishNo they don't, half the time they speak like niggers, actual niggers, they actually sound and talk like rappers it's fucking annoying.
>>575003702Basics are explained fine, the application of it all is on the player. I watched a replay of high level guy, and they were doing a slide dance on slope to get infinite shots. I went in the lab and repeated until I got the timing right. Then I saw him shoot up the underground staircase. He clearly did a wall jump on the doorway, so I repeated that for some time, until I got that. Next in line zipline boost and air strafe on vents.All of those I've watched the player do, no words needed. None of this feels out of reach. Just a bit of practice with nice Wipeout OST in the background. Guides are for fine tuning and best discovered applications, basic are pretty clear by themselves.
>>575005292>>575004239Keep seething little bro.That's all you can do anyway, lol
>>575004462>Americans atleast have the decency to keep it in Englishyou're saying that like it's not the only language that they know
>>575005327Europe is not a country
>>575005375If you can't understand ebonics that's on you. I'd rather have nigger English than Russian
>>575005375Honestly prefer it over britbong speakBut Americans have a bizarre way of sounding samey and NPC like.
>>575005472not yetalthough it'll get absorbed by india or US, whichever happens first
>>575005472Wrong.
Remember when russians got their own server and they pissed and moaned about not being able to ruin non russian games?
>>575005401That's nice anon, but that isn't the point I am making. If the game refuses to explain basic concepts like 'how to move correctly', it's a bad game. Hiding mechanics from the player is never good game design, and the deadlock dev team is nowhere near competent enough to balance movement tech, let alone make tutorials for it.
>>575005838Why are they so evil? Why are they allowed to interact with humans?
>>575005659posted from an iPhone in brussels
>>575005838no, i don'tremind me
>>574981107The difference is Silver is one of like 5 heroes with more gun damage than spirit damage so her damage is extremely inflated because who is going out of their way to buy gun resists?Game is ridiculously spirit heavy at pretty much all levels of play because they don't want to lock heroes into only gun/spirit
>>575006030That’s just valve, there is no tutorial in ca or dota>those are bad gamesI concede
you have no right to shit on russians until abrahams falls off
>>575006268>because they don't want to lock heroes into only gun/spirityeah retard having freedom to buy whatever you want is good the initial 4 of each inventory system also supported that
>>575006030But everything you need is explained tho. You have all the tools in the game. Nothing was 'hidden' from me so far. More tutorials would be nice, sure, but not critical. Even allows to use marker & recall and cheats in sandbox. I don't get what's the problem, mb I'm autistic.
Flopping tranny deadcockhttps://files.catbox.moe/hnckq0.mp4
why do I keep getting south ixian vpniggers in my region? Yoshit fix your fucking game
>>575002343Didnt play a carry nigger.You're not beating the retard allegations
>>575006268The meta yam build is to rush her 4.8 gun spike though?
>>575006460Puny EUssies are afraid of Big Rusbrams dick
>try to play movement based character>get raped and do no damage>play m1gger>miss half of the shotsso I have like 5 characters left I can play
>>575006886Slowing Hex should cause increased latency.
>>575006268>5it's literally only silver and venatorvyper, billy and haze all deal significant spirit damage
>>574999852NTA but i checked it>Bebop>Lash>Mirage>Seven>Dynamo>CalicoI kneel McGinnis-sama....
>>575007228GravesGOD
>>575003347yeah okay russhit go home. I'd rather americans 20000000000000000% over you shits.
>>575007348that would actually be kinda cool
>>575001573now imagine I told you this still occasionally happens in eternus
>>575006283CS is a genuinely awful game but Dota was at least good for the first couple of years before it got totally infested with chinks and russians and south americans, and filled with tons of eye-raping cosmetics and those obnoxious audio clip taunts that you are not allowed to turn off.>>575006654No, it is not, because if you don't do all the nonsensical movement bugs you are moving suboptimally and will always be at a disadvantage.
>most casual shitter opinion everGo play marvel rivals or overwatch, this a a valve game either no life it or get out.
>>575006926She's also maxing 2 which essentially gives her her spirit spike at tier 2 and its damage scales with bulletMS is the spirit gun spike and HA is just a really good item for both front lining and dueling
>>575007607Have you considered that your movement through life is suboptimal and you should kys instead of wasting our oxygen? God didn't make a tutorial for that, but I'll graciously share this nugget of knowledge with you, your are welcome.
Celestrannies when you cast slow hex and they can't mash spacebar to win instantly with their babymode hero for mentally ill faggots
>>575007429I main her, she's like made specifically for me
crucify this fucker
>>575008420Slowing Hex is quite mid against her considering her mobility doesn't come from an ability. If your character is good for it and then have another high mobility airborne character like Lash prefer Phantom Strike or Capacitor.
Where is the gun version of mystic slow?
>>575008904I JUST had a game where a Rem rushed T3 helpers and Escalating exposure to try and stop me from solo farming lane completely unaware that dispel magic exists
>>575008293Seething movement tranny. Deadlock will never be a good game as long as Icefrog is in charge, Hopoo is designing more garbage, and (You) are playing it.
>>575005327That's factually incorrect.
>>575009159It's literally called Slowing Bullets and it's upgrade Weighted Shots.....
>>575008420Slowing Hex barely does anything to her. Knockdown also barely does anything to her. Capacitor is the only good item against Celeste. If they made Slowing Hex, or maybe Vortex Web completely disable stamina it would actually be good.
>Playing Remhttps://files.catbox.moe/9qhb7k.jpg
Eternus btwGuess the character
>>575009675Warden
>>575008904he's so cute I love him :)
>>575009675No&Skill
>get retarded monkey yamato main off main on Paradox in my lane>the retarded pedophile can't figure out how to hit 2 when either of us are grappled/i'm slept>decide to soft int by afk power farming the entire game waiting for our patron to die>fed mo on our team leaves>I get set freeBLESS THE LORD
>>575009675this is gun ivy
>>575009675>eternus btwtelltale sign of not eternus btw
legit how are you supposed to play late game gun drifter you have 13 ammo hello
>>575009675looks like a sick billy build
>>575010078even the most retarded gun ivy wouldn't buy mercurial
>>575008904need one of these with a built in onahole
>>575006030>>575006283>>575007607>If the game refuses to explain basic concepts like 'how to move correctly', it's a bad gameIf you're including CS and/or Dota in this and your argument for some of the most popular games out there, with millions and millions of players, being bad is that they don't explain basics to you then you're just screaming to everybody that you're a retard who got filtered.
>>575010607>13 ammo>dude shoots his nails outuuuuh, where's his 13th nail coming from??
>>574929225got it, her movement is getting nerfed
>>574938327what do you mean nothing? they ruined the game with the urn AND the koth objective
>>575011369I like them, they are fun.
>>575009765>>575010006>>575010078>>575010408>>575010620It was wraith
>>575011503i mean people have fun shoving things in their urethra that doesn't mean is an objectively good experience.circle slop and run slop are in the bottom tier of fun objectives
>>575011679next new objective will be triangle based
>>575010754I mean, there is bigger version of this Rem and you could technically turn him into an onahole...If you are ready to buy him of Etsy for 230 euros that is
>>575011679they should add an objective that's running through circles like Superman 64
>>575011679Give an example of a fun objective? any game
BTW Thx for yesterdays fanfic suggestions, Anon, I liked them.
>>575012226payload, ctf and control points in tf2, roshan and baron in dota 2 and lol, the flag in a dead game called loadout because it was a giant hammer and you could kill enemies with it, plenty of them in hots like the minibosses from the diablo map, i enjoy killing the guardians since you can parry them too and before ahen you could slide on the stairs to kill them faster.urn and rift are just not good or fun objectives and they are not good or fun objectives for deadlock
>no one builds this item>people only started building it because they found out it's bugged on certain characters making them strongerJust delete this garbage item already
>>575013138retard
>>575010607Golden statue buffs, items, the fact he hits like a fucking truck and can easily roll over you in less than 10 shots, sliding because of how fucking fast he is against isolated and during ult
>>575014138is there a threshold you need to hit to slide? i know with veilwalker you always slide
>buy magic carpet>match immediately becomes 10x more funwhen did you become carpetpilled
does tankbuster go through spellbreaker?
Weighted shots on wraith, yay or nay?
>>575011507Based, green wraith is good
>>575014430just stay at slowing
>>575014430Probably fine for getting the gun spike but not optimal, burst fire slots in better to her kit
>>575013138It works as an evasion counter since both bullets roll against it>>575014237I think it’s 9m/s but memory fuzzy
>>575014430Rancid dogshit, do not build this shit.go tesla instead.
Liebert I know you browse here hang yourself you sped nigger retard
>>575014430You only build weighted if you also have debuff reducer and it’s not enough
>enemy team gets a yamato>literal fuckin god of war will probably end the game 19-0-34>I get a yamato>dumb nigger who somehow fumbles a 123 button rotation with massive hitboxes and will try to 1v4 and won't buy dispel into silences
>get handed absolutely nothing but nigger team mates who never comm and sit in jungle permanently all day
>>575015842It's called pugging retard get in the rhythm and stop bitching. Why the fuck do people constantly whine about their teammates?It's giving me dota flashbacks it's so cringe and gay and you're gay. Probably a tranny too.
>4 of them are dead, 50 sec timers>All lanes pushed up>My teammates? Jerking off in jungleThe only one that pushed up was Graves
>3 dead on enemy team>call mid and tell everyone to disengage the remaining enemies>2 faggots die trying to chase the remaining fleeing fags >we don't do midFUCK
>>575013048>tf2go back
>Necromancer>Cant revive teammatesShitty necromancer
>>575016702i legit gotta do tactical pauses to get people to run midits nice plaing wraith though you can solo mid (without split shot)
>>575016851Share your build pl0x
>>575011160>game is popular>therefore it is goodDidn't realize that Fortnite and CoD are the greatest games ever made.
>>575017208just the regular stuff you just hit like a fucking truck with surge, overflow, magnum and full auto
>>575015983yeah cause this game has a bustling pug scene. shut up you faggot retard.
>Ooh, it's always my team mates fault for getting caught in our own jungle. Ooh, it definitely has nothing to do with the 4 enemies that were camping and are actively causing all of our problems, no siree.
>>575017361You think there isnt a reason a lot of people play those games?
>>575016820replace shitty passive with a rez
>>575017823Yeah, because they appeal to the lowest common denominator. I used to play CoD when I was a teenager and had yet to develop good taste.
>>575017361Not at all what I said, dumbass.
>>575018118So you think those games, which have been around for over 10 years, are only around because teenagers are playing them?
>>575018352Yes, they found an audience of people who enjoy eating shit.
>>575016820>>575017937Brilliant, then she'd be the ultimate girlfriend character. Let her heal too with altfire.
>>575016820>necromancer>carries a dead hand and jar of cum>summons a halloween free marketplace asset>draws chalk on groundwoah.....
>grind to eternus 6>99% of players up here are savant kill monkeys with no sense of battle tactics>these mouth breathers literally cannot fathom someone itemizing for novelty or macro rather than itemizing for my hero's meta-ordained powerspikes>they will literally afk and throw games if they even sense you are building atypical for your herohere's the good news, hardstucks. there's no point in climbing any higher, because you will always be surrounded by myopic NPCs. stop building to climb and start building to enjoy yourself
>>575019059I've seen niggas build gun Rem in E6 without a word spoken.
>>575018891So you think it has nothing to do with the quality and people play bad games on purpose? Is that how your mind works?
>Every street brawl is still just getting ass raped by McGinnis Why does this mode even exist?
>>575019261Anon, people in this very thread are playing Deadlock despite the game receiving nothing but bad patches/updates for nearly a year straight now. People will continue to play bad games due to their sunk cost, people buy FIFA and COD every year because they have no taste. You aren't some intellectual because you think otherwise.
>>575019059i literally encounter more throwers and troll building at e6 than any other elo ive ever played at
>>575019489So you think hundreds of thousands of people intentionally play bad games on purpose but its just a wild coincidence that they all decided to choose cod or fortnite? Is that right?
>another fucking week to hopefully get games where it's not a mix of eternus and phantom retards feeding them
>>575017707yep you're right anon when I'm the only person pushing any waves out and stopping our walkers from just dying left and right I should also be present to come save pvt retard's 1k bag in jungle. I should just be everywhere all at once.
>>575019908You talk like a Redditor and are not worth responding to any further.
>>575016820I want graves to take a dump on my chest while the hand watches
>>575019435Because the main game mode is fucking awful and this at least keeps the playercount high. I really would like to know the split between the two, I imagine it's as bad as 1/3rd regular 2/3rds street brawl.
>>575020337I accept your concession.
>>575002734you can inherently understand this just by playing the game. the convo literally started because some guy noticed it in game
>>575020226What, no. of course not. Instead, you should expect him to easily win that 5v1 that he did not initiate or leave which the enemy is refusing to let him do. You really took the wrong lesson from that.
>>575021154no it's okay let me just shadow him in jungle all game while wraith rapes all of our walkers uncontested
>>575021150Yeah, just like I am sure you can learn to do IADs and corner/edgeboosts organically.
I hate everything about holidayHer character and the people that play her
>>575018352>are only around because teenagers are playing them?quite literally yes
>they should remove this from the game because the game itself doesn't tell me how to do itare you going to look me in the eyes and tell me with a straight face that you would be all for corner and edge boosting if there was an in-game tutorial telling you how to do it
>>575021606the movement is fun, I think it should be taught in game yeah.
>>575021597So teenagers across generations only play two specific games?
>>575002734sorry i think movement is fun so you're wrong
>>575018913>heal>trying to make it accessible to foidsnice way to make it faggyalso they never pick graves
>>575021429huh? how are they in any way related to wall jump fatigue? you literally encounter it the forst time you try to scale a building>wall jump to try climb building>wall jump again to try reach higher>second wj ends up being shorteri figured this out the instant they were added. youre beyond retarded if you cant figure out a basic mechanic like this
>>575021776Yes, just like how black teens love Madden and NFL slop games, white teens play CoD and Fortnite.next you're gonna pretend that Pubg is a fantastic game because "muh playercount"ragebaiting pig.
>>575021872>nice way to make it faggyCharacter design is already faggy and accessible to foids.>also they never pick graveslol
>>575022016>"People are wasting their time to troll me specifically"Sounds like those games are doing something right if that many people would rather spend their time playing that game instead of something else
>>575021606Of course not, it's just an excuse to try and get shit they don't like or want removed without having to directly say it.
>>575021559I will now play Holliday
>>575022016Don't respond to that retard, he talks like a reddit mod, always asking questions and never answering anything.
>>575023085>"You're not allowed to ask me to explain my opinion on something"Telling other people to not respond to someone that raped you is peak raped behavior btw
>>574988028It's called Tankbuster
I give up with Ult Warden, back to gun.
>page 10 barely 800 replies thread made yesterdayHoly dead thread DEAD game lmao.
Warden Ult should gate his health to 1 like tryndamere from league
>my team has dynamo>we win
soon
>>575021559Any character that has free overtuned movement in this game full of retarded movement bugs is annoying to play against regardless of how overpowered they are. Celeste and Holliday and Ivy all need to lose the free movement passives.
>>575024580That's a good idea so they won't do it.
If you play street brawl exclusively you are most certainly a tranny. I've been playing street brawl after a chat ban to not get auto-modded and it's literally a containment mode for all the diaper wearing reddit gooners. This confirms my theory that these retards all suck ass at the game since they play le funny cool heckin random mode that requires almost no conscious thought.
>>575025764Street Brawl can't be the tranny mode though, movement tranny stuff isn't necessary in it unlike the main mode.
>YER DED>YER DED>YER DED>YER DED>YER DED>YER DED
>>575025363>"next week">translating babble valve speak>doot doot actual date is next week in 2027
>>575025363Won't change shit, you'll still get retarded inters, throwers, griefers and trash drafts. They are too cowardly to introduce penalties(they'd have no players left lol) or a draft mode(all the meta abusers would quit)
>>575025894>and out of this world
>>575025894ONE MORE BODY FOR THE PILE
any time I don't get my main I soft int
>>575026137>TIEM TAH BREENG OUT DA BIG GUUUNS
>crack a beer>find a match>start playing>share lane with some muslim with thick United Kaliphate accent>he starts talking tactics and calling dives and shit>understand him perfectly, but answer in Russian for fun>he starts complaining and seething, seems like your usual 1984 propaganda victim>keep talking to him in Russian>every time he gets ganked, line back and go farm while he's fuming in voice>laugh every time he dies>ask enemy team to report him for feeding>he starts screeching and leavesWhy are eвpocoвки and ocтpoвныe чypки so easy?
BRO WHAT IS THIS FUCKING PLAYERLEGIT THIS HAS TO BE SOME FUCKIGN PSY OP HOW DO YOU MATCH THESE PEOPLE WITH ME YSHI
>>575026661>Zero greens>On Warden>With Close QuartersDeadlock should force you to buy at least one green item.
>>575026661he do be gettin key player tho
I CANNOT FUCKING WIN WITH VICTOR ANYMORE MANI'm about to drop him, is it me? I don't fucking get it
>>575025860Ok go queue up a match of street brawl then and watch them spend more time talking about silver-celeste yuri and inclusivity than playing the game then. See for yourself. Movement trannies are also autistic, street brawl trannies dont suffer form this comorbidity.
>>575026845yeah he was afk pushing lane when we lost so he had second most obj dmg u know
>>575026661oracle rank player btw
>>575027132another onerank up, get worse playerscongrats you played yourself hahahahaha
>>575026918Have you tries pressing a key other than 3 and W? He doesn't work that way anymore buddy.
>>575027331xdddd!! here's gold for the epic zinger anon!!That hasn't worked in like two months now
>>575027132>Has a negative winrate>Somehow this puts him in the upper-middle skill level according to DeadlockThis game cannot die soon enough so that everyone can learn some lessons from how to kill a game this badly.>>575026918Victor players deserve nothing good, so fuck you faggot, pick a character that takes even the slightest amount of skill to play. At least Graves doesn't get 3 lives lmao>>575027012I mean, if they do that I'll just go afk and make them mad lmao
MY BAD MY BAD YOSHISORRY I QUEUED AGAIN I SHOULD'VE KNOWN
>>575028246>ixi*ns
>>575028246stop ixian racism.
delete matchmaking>>575028246
>>575028246>>575028463average stats in game without skill based match making
>>575027505lel ur mad Victor is one of the easiest heros in the game to win with. You may actually have clinical brain damage if you are struggling to win with him. Literally all you have to do is not feed and farm up. Is that too hard for you? Poor little baby :(
so this is the way /dlg/ ends... not with a bang, but with a whimper..
>>575028527>>575028463>>575028246It should be readily apparent that Deadlock uses EOMM to you guys.
>Lose game because Billy rage quit after we lost 1 singular teamfight>Game was such an easy win, we were at their walkers by 15 minutes AND despite being a 5v6 were still able to fuck them upWeakest link was our Infernus doing no damage, but god damn did Lash make an amazing last stand killing 4 of them before they took his ass down.Fuck you billy, I genuinely hope you get banned and can never play this game again you cocksucker. It was such an easy win and you rage quit over a nothing burger.cunt.
>>575028869imagine beating rem with a belt and he's in so much pain he cant even scream he can only whimper and roll around on the ground hahahahhaha
PLEASE STOP MAKING ME PLAY WITH FUCKING RUSSIANS. I LIVE IN AMERICA. HOLY FUCK. And parrying doesn't work on high ping.
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>>575027132>>575027906Somehow I have a 9-24% winrate according to statlocker but my actual ingame win rate is 50.9% and that’s actually a bit lower because I have a lot of street brawl and I know I’ve lost those more than I’ve won. So I don’t know I think statlocker might just be incredibly wrong lol
