Main website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/enWiki: https://relink.gbf.wiki/>FAQsBase game FAQ: https://rentry.org/RelinkFAQER DMG rundown: https://rentry.co/ytczavom>Patch 2.0.2 detailshttps://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/>Send your feedback herehttps://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedbackPrevious Thread: >>574866537
You can giga parry The Star
>>574945036i bet cog would smell amazing
Th-Thanks.
ok this is nice
what da fug
>>574945513I want a really good version of that summon so I can unironicly use it in missions. It's very funny. Although the giant Baracuda summon is also extremely based.
For the past week ive farmed msp for characters just to try them out with varying results of enjoyment and now soon will be trying Ferry
the percival rotor wirbel bug made za warudo bug for everyone but percival twice in a row now kekDO NOT use it on him I guessalso session ID: 03WM NFF0 07TD KNBUpass: bubs
>>574945036>there is a different cog ecchi mod than the one i used in the pastf-fine i'll give her another shotsupa collapse or combo trait?
>maxxed out rosetta>she pumps a lot of damage>but second the enemy moves you have to scramble to set up your combo againits miserable holy fuck but you can loop your rose explosion and spin endlessly for a fuckton of damage if the enemy decides to not jump all over the fucking arena>pro tip: they will be doing that
>>5749458644/4
Gallanza is not as fun as I was hoping he would be. I wish there was no cap to his spinning and that parries with it counted as perfect finishers.Fuck...
>>574945487Of course.If you're not engineering the cutest smell to go with the cutest body, what are you even doing?
>>574946184Gallanza would 200% better if someone made a Garen skin for him.
>>574945528Running through the story again as the church trio is cool to see the glimpses into their relationships. Also find it funny that of the 3 of them Gallanza is the only one who found lilith suspicious from the start
>>574946184I hate the fucking spinning, so much potential wasted on that button
It's a bit funny that all the infinite bosses accidentally (?) had anti-AFK mechanics built into them but people ended up being able to do versa/bubz/lucilius anyway>>574946363sovl
>>574946448I wish there was more going on with it like the stuff i described. Were you hoping it was something completely different?
>>574946363>fight angra mainyu with gallanza>straight up calls her salvation bullshit
>>574946184I've chosen to ignore spinning all together, air combo + skill spam gallanza is perfectly serviceable as a real character but yeah I'm still annoyed that no matter what style you choose it feels like you're ignoring one of his key combat mechanics
>>574946285God damn it im going to wack it to yapo later now
What is the dumbest thing you've seen in Ragnarok
>>574946490how are people activating link time for afk bubs
>>574946363>maggiewhat are they calling her in JP?
>>574946642they have a macro spamming link attack, so that one is only semi-afk
>>574866537I love black women
>>574945487ever have a whiff of someone and think they smell real good but it's actually a guy or crossdresser? that's what i imagine cog to smell like
>>574946742I imagine Magi-nee for Id and HAGasareno for Gallanza.
How is cag parsing? For that matter whats the lowest damage character? I heard Katalina isn't doing well
>>574945304>You can giga parry The StarMake the youtube video, daigo.>>574946986Cag can do just a bit above average damage but it's pretty input intensive and she falls off a good chunk during overdrive.
za warudo last try43S8 T2W9 CG6L J7CD
>>574946529Meanwhile magli is surprised at seeing the manjew and re-affirms at the start of the battle that she would never have signed on if she knew about it and lilith's true salvation
>>574947152full already?
>>574946894WRONGcag has been a cute girl for hundreds of years, she's more of a girl than a real girl
>>574947857cog hasn't been a cute girl for one nanosecond of his life
>>574947978She can be whatever the fuck she wants, she basically created alchemy
the perci bug might have giga bricked my gameI hate homos
Ah, how far away
when can siete start charging his sba refill? can he go first and start charging in the middle of the chain and get it off just as the last person empties their bar?
>>574949435you can go 3rd if it's a primal burst and it'll be up in time
Why are so many people struggling these past couple days vs Bubz? Compared to early on I'm starting to fail some due to more folks eating the floor.
>>574950032is it a true stunlock? can the boss still bloodlust in between?
What's the best chaos++ to spam for a war elemental summon?
The feds are stalking me in Folca...
>>574950098it's a stunlock yeah, killed hexa and skipped last phase many times like that
Is there a tell for which side Bubs will swipe first during at the end of hail to the king?I can never tell, but I've seen people react instantly and correctly
>>574950160just to be sure, as long as people's sba meters are empty, siete will always refill them right? it's not like there is an sba gain lock that the devs put in until the full chain is done right?
>All the lewd costume mods are locked behind patreon
>>574950246Link them, I'll leak it
>missing all my vas charges because of bosses fucking off>slap on provoke>they're still fucking off from me or just matrixing the oddly tiny hitbox of vas chargewhat the FUCK stay still for 2 seconds PLEASE
>>574950245as soon as it hits 0% it can be refilledsometimes people stagger their SBAs really long or sometimes they drop it frame 1 so i mean u just gotta keep that in mind
>>574950301the only one i remember that had interesting ones https://jun2022.fanbox.cc/
>>574950527ty
>>574950367why are you playing the equivalent of a GS in monhun in a game where battles are paced like a meth addict?
>>574950367Provoke doesn't really work on bosses, mostly only on the small trash mobs.
For farming wrightstone which is better, just grinding quests that drop them or just doing shit to farm out vouchers?
>>574950731Are you one of those people who say that GS players should just wait until the monster stops moving, or who try to get people to play Dark Souls like a turn based game?
>>574950086The good players moved on already
>>574950878Savescumming transmarvel vouchers. Even then getting the exact one you want is quite a challenge.
I unlocked lucilius a few days ago and forgot what the tool tip said I would unlock for beating him. Was it something important?
>>574951023No, I'm one of those people that crawl on your ceiling at night and watch you sleep but honestly if you want to play Basedraga I'm not going to stop you
>>574950109It's still Rolan from The World fight
Man playing with friends who all have 45 uplift feels broken. Can easily SBA > link time > SBA. Is there a reason not many people run uplift? If i run it with randoms i just get SBA to 100% while everyone else is still at 40% most of the time.
>>574951130How is it that Songs die so fucking much? I've never used her, but you'd think that with them being NOT in melee range they'd die LESS. Is there something I don't know about her?
>>574951635That's pretty much why. Not worth much if you're the only one running it.I imagined it'd be broken if everyone is though
>>574951419thanks
>>574952020because her highest DPS loop when depravity-clincher-arrow rain is on cooldown is her combo 3 where she shoots a volley of arrows. It does more damage at point blank and you of all people should know that meleeshitters kiss the dirt twice as much as rangedfags
I can't remember the last time I saw any player kiss dirt who is dying anymore in this game?
>>574952795me
>shit like Linked Together doesn't actually increase damage past cap despite the DMG% keyword i am so tired of cygay lingo
>>574952968damn bro sorry bout that...
>>574952467nyo... it cannyot be... I am a big strong virile man who fight in close range, I can't die more than the ranged sissies...
>Drain>Drain>Drain>Lumen>Drain>DMG Cap >Drain>Lumen>Drain>Lumen>LumenFuck you Bubz. Fuck. You.
>>574952467Jokes on you, I play Vane.
>>574951635in the base game was even more broken and reason why bosses now auto BT if you only do 2 chains
>>574953460Yummy yummy msp
Am I misunderstanding something about the Ferry tank build? I have Steady Focus on but it doesn't activate when holding Onslaught and I'm getting sent flying constantly. In other people's videos their Ferry stays in place and tanks it. I don't understand what's happening
>>574953089doko
>>574954061You need stout heart
>clean up my zeta>feeling good, got damage cap up, as much as I feel like I can find>arvess hammers are doing 600% damage cap at max powerhaha what the fuck
>>574952020Most likely they're super casual players and you queued into their first attempt or they just aren't good players. I only played her briefly pre-ER when she was new, anyone still playing her just likes archer-type characters I guess.
>>574954341Sorry, I Signo Drive'd, 700%.Damn.
>>574950109https://nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/resources/quest_drop_rates_er/mazurka of war for a 50% cap maximum gold slime it seems
>>574950246On patreon: /CatFoodCan/posts/mod-collection-103653200?collection=531845These should still work.They're not full on omega tiddies right up constantly in your face but hey it's something and it's free shit.Fun fact about these mods the models are FULLY MODELLED, you can sometime clip into them and see the bits
>>574954061it's stout heart, steady focus is for charged attacks which is on your charged light attacks onlythere is no stout heart+ sigil so if you don't want to waste an entire sigil slot, you have to go farm for the behemoth summon since it has a high chance of rolling stout heart
>>574954652thanks!
Bea.
>>574955046Why do Fediel wanna watch people fuck so bad?
>>574955130goddess of death is interested in how life is made, gap
>>574955187Pretty sure that won't fly if I tell that to the cop after I watch my neighbor bumping uglies
Man, Infinity Bubs is almost impossible if your team sucks, they eat every single orb attack, which makes him teleport everywhere doing his apeshit moves over and over, and you just can't hit him at all. At least people jobbing to Luci don't actually cause the boss to fuck off for extended periods of time.Also we almost failed the timer because of this amazing specimen.
>>574955280I am sure you could get away with it if you looked like Fediel
>>574955327But I don't wanna be brown...
>>574955387are you gay
>>574952020typically I find myself dying more on the ranged units because there isn't really a rhythm like there is in melee, you just kind of stand there until some fuck-you-ranged-player projectile instantly tears you apart
>>574955420Does the bro hugs at the gym counts?
>>574955387Too bad.
>>574954309>>574954874AHHHH IM RETARDEDthank you anons
I LOVE PAIN I LOVE PAIN I LOVE PAIN WALK INTO FIRE PUDDLES SO I CAN GET MY 10 STACKS GO AHEAD JUST FUCKING STAND ON POISON OR CONTINUOUS AOE SHIT JUST KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME
>>574955662this but danchou
I want more defy infinity quests now
Is every Sieg and Eustace player online a fucking bot?
Is the skill reset Zeta build good, and if so what skills do I run on her?
>>574954796the other anon baited me but this is better than nothing, thanks
>>574956145Don't be fooled by the pictures, all of them have a bunch of options.I'm pretty sure there is also a thread on loverslab but, fucks knows how they handle that stuff and if anything is up to date over there.
I've had a Greater Aegis equipped through summons for my whole time and I was hitting 200k HP and I removed it and now I'm at 140k and feel uncomfortable
That's a big bitch
>>574956460Don't use Terra, do get all the HP from your masteries, you should be around 170k HP without alterations (if you have at least 4 red/blue sigils).
I don't want to see an old man's panties
>>574956664I have a 4k texture pack mod for Cag's oji-san panties.
>>574956462Don't sexualize Bea please.
>oh 3 out of 4 of you want to repeat the quest?>too bad faggots! Back to Town you go!Why the FUCK doesn't it just search for a fourth member and keep us together?!
>>574956814NTA but it just look nice, gives her a very sporty look.
>>574956342I've been getting more updated stuff from them than elsewhere.And they've been getting away with "that stuff" so far, at least.
>>574956853Or ask if you three wanna stick around in a lobby would be nice
>>574956910Really? That's surprising, on both end really, but I'll take your words for it.
>>574956814
>>574955926Okay, but what is the relevance of this kot
>>574956637I currently only have 2 pink and 2 blue (Quick Cooldown, Cascade, Steel Nerves and Improved Dodge). I need to get either a War Elemental or Spartan Echo summon to get the 5th thing in.I am exactly at 148k HP.
Reminder that Cag is not trans
they really need to get a patch out stat, i don't even care about the fediel shit, but the bug (it has to be a bug) that makes atk up and def down not work in overdrive needs to be fixed asap
>>574957537The trait needs to be in the first slot of the sigil for it to count.
>parry an attack with Charlotta's jump>still applies any debuff it would have if it had hit normallyThis is stupid.
>>574957868Come home white man.
>>574957783I am aware. It's Improved Dodge / DMG CapSteel Nerves / DMG CapCascade / DMG CapQuick Cooldown / Supplemental
ferry panties pleaseor thong
>>574957948You're missing mastery HP somewhere then, did you select all of the +15k ones too?
>>574950114I love my wife so much bros
>>574958024>>574950114It is impossible to feel lust for potatoes
Maybe I'm retarded.I thought this meant while my opponent was inflicted with burn... but I'm starting to think it's when I am. Testing is showing like no difference when I use her burn skill.
>>574958596>he fell for itoh nononono
>>574958651Yeah, it's fine, that's why we test. Now it makes sense why the other trees had blight and poison, I guess.
>>574957951This!
>>574958008Are those supposed to be in 50+? I only just hit 50.
What's a nigga gotta do to get a stout heart summon. This Temu ass Behemoth isn't dropping shit.
>>574956342last i checked loverslab it was all naked mods and i hate it. Being plain naked is boring and dumb and it stinks
>>574958596>>574958703Why the fuck would the game expect anyone to build around putting statuses on themselves the fuck
>>574959626there's like 1 fight that can consistently put poison on you and the poison hurts like hell lol, you aren't tanking it unless you are already a 1hp warrior like io or vaseraga
>>574959532the best place to get behemoth is from the chaos++ skelly in 'the myths are real' that only unlocks once you beat the story
>>574958860Grrr...Erune in heat...
>>574955662why does he look fucking insane
I tried beating Infinite quests without playing Fraux since she trivialised all of Chaos++ too much, but I don't think I'm good enough for using brain cells yet. How do the non-frauxs who aren't functionally retarded go about beating them?
>vane's support skill dragon within says he can "block with a perfectly timed (finisher) attack without being interrupted>there's actually no timing involved at all>despite there being tons of characters who can actually parry with their finishers.>vane just blocks whatever whenever he's doing finisher attacksWhat did the devs mean by this
>>574960664i imagine they pick fediel and nuke them with ballspam
>>574945036so does everyone just use defender weapons until Im assuming maybe ascension or terminus get upgraded
>play Sieg>gets cucked by cutscenes/spastic bosses>play Bea>gets cucked by cutscenes/spastic bosses
>>574960664How does fraux make it easy?
>>574960798yeahmight wanna check with the chaos++ dummy if you are capping tho, i think defender weapons have kinda low base atk
>>574957679https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd8vzIRQLLM
>>574960815all of Chaos++ is baby shit so he has a skewed point of reference
>>574960464When you get 10 stacks on his crux style his facial expression changes into an angry one but on the victory screen it turns into THAT the counter spam style requires pain, mental and physical
>>574955662>>574961207I thought this was an edit lmfao
i wonder why everyone i meet has like over 130k attack while i only have 80k
>>574955662>>574961207holy fuck
>>574955662my face after my 8th masturbation for the day
>spend 2 hours on sigils>realize that you can only stack up to 6s of invincibility on dodgeFuckeeeeeers more room for aegis I suppose
>>574961289Because the game doesn't properly explain its damage formula and it's easy to clear with subpar builds so they don't notice. You can go all-in on cap and still exceed it at 60k.
Is Siegfried AI better as tank or damage dealer?
my favorite scene to see in 4 dragons is a tank captain or siegfried when the fire and earth dragons drop, they just fucking vaporize lol
>lowest possible roll>but still beserker echosI'll take it
>>574959612Dunno I checked today and there's a whole bunch of semi nude stuff.Seems they're still figuring things out though, most of the mods I've seen are either a bit soggy or more on the buggy side.I agree with you though, fully naked with nothing is just plain boring
SCHOOLED LIKE A FISH!
>>574961207Wait, seriously? I thought it was a meme AI shop.
>>574962003PLAYED LIKE A FIDDLE
>>574950179after doing a few runs, you will instinctively know when he is about to do the knockback>it's always on the 2nd rotation (after his 1st charge)>he will always teleport so get ready to use dash
>delayed building up sigils for AI because I thought it would be a pain in the ass>realized defense and survivability sigils are actually wasted on themOK now they each have their 5 white sigils with slots to spare for some double Uplift or something
>>574962224Oh wait it's static?What the fuck I thought it was random, though I did notice the checker patterns are static as well.
>>574960815It has nothing to do with her being uniquely strong or anything like that, I'd guess she's average at best. Fraux is just simple and doesn't really care what the enemy is doing half the time, for Chaos++ where the enemies are more like normal fights it's easy mode. You just loop combos forever and then become invincible while you loop combos for the other half of forever, so the only thing you need to think about is your own gameplay.
>>574962342Your pattern recognition is WEAK. You will not survive the winter
>>574962385NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>574962343>become invincible while you loop combos for the other half of forever,huh? Never played fraux but I didn't see anything about that when checking her out
ferry is at the age where she would start wearing thongs
>>574962505One of her Master Trait trees is that she doesn't take damage while using skills from her three card gimmick, that means for the entire duration of them (including skills like Dead Hands that lasts for like 10+ seconds while you hold the button) you take 0 damage. That, paired with Nimble Onslaught and the usual Guard sigils. It's very easy to basically never take damage because you have a lot of leeway to build your meters, but obviously that's not an ideal way to play by any means.
>6% atk and 100% extra cap up for terminus last stepWorried I might not be hitting over cap after the last step. I'm hitting 120% atm.
>>574962826on the right dummy?
>>574962881Yeah chaos++.
>>574962826Have you gotten the ATK+20% in the Master Traits?
>>574962826are you using celestial lumen & fatebreaker?
>>574961684shit dude, I envy youI rolled a bubs with spartan but the secondary is like 2K more HP or some shit
>>574962952I have 1 already but I could grab another if I drop a 15k hp node since it isn't going to be doing much for terminus anyway.
>>574962930Weird, but probably still fine. 100% cap up isn't that much if you're done with masteries
Not including an Infinity Conflux level after 5, or even an endless Conflux mode is criminal.
>>574962996I wish I got bubz with spartan. I got the dragon instead, who also has skill cap up. I'm now 3 skill cap ups and 1 normal cap up for fraux which is nice honestly.
>>574963008Ye, that was how I made do with mine.
>try out vane, Percival, gallanza, zeta>none of them really clicking for me>keep coming back to old faithfulREEL EM INI might like vane more if he actually functioned as a character before fully kitting him out after end game and by that point it doesn't matter because fucking everyone can facetank
Man why do some characters just get punished even more for failing their gimmick in masteries and some just get free buffs no strings attached
>>574963617t. Gallanza/Siegfreid player
>>574963690Also this guy >>574963434
So how bad are the infinity fights?Any gimmicks to watch out for?
HUMAN MAN
It's only 430am, the night is young...
>>574963841nah
>>574963931So I won't be a lobby terrorist if I join in blindly?
>>574964015You should know the chaos++ version at least.
>>574964095I heard the infinity ones had gimmicks to them, like the world only taking stagger damage from perfect blocking him, lucilius debuffs only going away if you attack him, bahamut's dark flame buffing you, etc.
>>574963841>>574964015Beside Faa, the fights are fine, go for it, it's okay to fuck up if you're new.
>>574963841Infinity fights are piss easy, anon. Just use Seofon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5vfww-g8aI
Bro how the FUCK do you raise your damage cap? Is it seriously just Summons? Which ones?>Literally have taken every DMG Cap increase from Mastery traits>I could maybe squeeze in a little extra from another Gamma and a Celstial>I have a 30% Normal Attack Cap Up and a 50% normal Attack Cap Up.All of this and my Turbine is like 290% over cap.
>>574964295>Is it seriously just Summons? Which ones?No it's masteries
>>574964317Ah thank you. The 4 weapon characters get MASSIVE damage cap boosts across the board and im missing a few.
Wait, gallanza get free SBA on deathmatch mode ?
>>574963914We did it, bros...
>>574963841If you have basic reading comprehension and a reasonable base line of gear none of them are that bad.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/881020/discussions/0/590684692649419745/Crab bros, is this true?
So are Terminus weapons just dead? Just asking because I just reached Chaos+ AND finally got someone to 30k PWR and transcending a Stunner weapon made my Terminus useless. Or will I be abke to transcend Terminus later in the game?
>>574965194Duh, it has always been like that.
>>574965290It unlocks later.
>>574965384Thank God. Would be a shame after spending all those stuff for upgrading. Also made a mistake to do it on my ascension weapon then realize you can't transcend it either.Either way I believe I should upgrade all weapons in the end for the skills right? If I unlock a skil on one weapon is the effect active even though I don't have it equipped?
>>574965290No they're still the best for damage, but Awakening isn't that far behind and the others are at least viable instead of useless like in the base game.
New Defy Infinity++ quest added; defeat Faa and Bubz under 10 min
>>574965495>can't transcend it eitherKeep playing, anon. ER goes through the same loop the base game did.
>>574965291>d-duhNone of the crab shills have described it like that, they took every additive number from Lv1 through 20 and said that's what it doesThis guy's saying it takes only the maximum number on each value.
New Defy Infinity+++ quest added, FKHR forces you to watch an AI video of him making out with Faa, Belly-all and himself.
>>574965836He's so devious for adding a quest that nobody can clear...
>>574965290dead at the start of dlc until you can transcend itdefender becomes the best weapon until you can transcend ascension
>>574965194I still have no idea who this thing give such big dps boost.
If there's ever a mod that allow me to not deal with Danchou's art mechanic I will gladly play them, but until then fuck that shit, I'm tired of getting constantly fucked over by that nonsense
>>574965194>+10% Crit instead of +20%At least the +15% crit that Maggie's crux trait forces me to use isn't going to waste after all
>>5749661933.125% from 5% supp dmg raising us from 160 to 165% damage dealt2% dmg which translates to +2% dmg 10% attack which becomes like 5% more in the war elemental part of the formula which translates to like 4% more dmg or something, I forgot the mathso you end up with like 9% more dmg before you factor in for overdrive and slight diminishing returns on dmg% and supplementary dmg
>>574965194I'm not sure why anyone assumed it was additive, there is nothing that ever pointed to that, it just says "at X lvl gain Y%"This thing is absurdly over rated though, the amount of people who sacrifice precious sigil space for it only to spend their time worshipping the floor is astonishing.
>>574960798pretty much. stinger seems too squishy for my skill level and i don't even know what the other 2 weapons offer since apparently i pick all the characters that only get 4 instead of 6 weapons to build.
>>574967235It's better than Terra, Lumen, Fatebreaker (if you have enough ATK to hit your caps) and Aqua, in that order.
>>574967345All the damage in the world doesn't mean dicks if you don't dish it out. This is just monster hunter all over again where people read some guide that's full on big dick muhdeeps minmax on internet from some training dummy guru flailing guru, copy it 1:1, but aren't even able to deal with the dragons telegraphed ass tail sweep.Is it, factually, more damage for a build? Absolutely, I don't disagree with that. Would I rather 95% of its user disregard and slot in shit for HP and def though? Most definitely.
>>574967235>only to spend their time worshipping the floorYou say that but it gives a good amount of survivability with the regen and drain it provides. It's not gonna save a bad player from eating critical gauge but it still pulls its weight.
>>574967005>slight diminishing returns on dmg% and supplementary dmgrather, it's not really diminishing returns but just the nature of stacking up on additives in offense. there's the umbrella of damage caps which then basically gets multiplied by the umbrella of shit that makes you hit harder past caps, which is what crab falls into. +2% dmg brings you to 102 dmg, or if you had 100% dmg increase already and did 200 dmg then going to 202 dmg is only a 1% increase even though you gained the same amount of damage still. so if your character already has lots of supplementary dmg and dmg%+ and attack buffs and defense debuffs then the umbrella of stuff crab falls under ends up being oversaturated while making the relative value of DMG cap increases a bit higher. I don't think terra+incendo beats crab regardless though, unless your character has special needs
>>574967518>Would I rather 95% of its user disregard and slot in shit for HP and def though? Most definitely.But enough about Celestial Terra.
>>574967617Celestial Terra is just a trap, I can forgive someone for reading +70% cap in exchange for 30% HP and think it's a good deal, even though, in the grand scheme of things, you're just setting yourself up.The crab shenanigans, you actively get out of your way to achieve.
>>574967518You idiot, the crab sigil also gives defense, regen and drain. There's space for it in every build if you drop one of the worse cap sigils for it, especially terra which honestly nobody should use. Lumen is also a good option to replace.
>>574967518I don't think this scenario actually exists because you get a lot of trait slots and you can fit like everything you need and be pretty comfy, but don't blame cwab for people slotting it in but also slotting in even more damage sigils instead of stronghold and steel nerves or HP or uplift or whatever. they can just delete 2 other damage cap sigils but they choose not to.
Stacking every source of source of damage cap won't fix a dogshit character, just play a comfy meta character instead of building a character like shit
>>574967773>Get vaporized by Bubs' fart regardlessAh yes, amazing, thank you for your great contribution to the crit bar.>>574967810I guess it's fair to tell me to condemn the users and not the sigil itself. I guess I just have it up there with metards.
>>574967968Your retarded argument would make more sense if you were arguing against using terminus and instead saying everyone should use the awakening weapon with 400k+ HP.
>>574967954No, I think I will play a bad character with a comfy offmeta build. It's my right as a citizen of the sky.
>>574967954i will substitute spam and if I die it will be by your hands
>>574968259Based
>>574952795me when I BEA too hard
>>574968137>Your argument would make more sense if it was an alternate argument from a different timeline I just made up in my headI ... Okay? Not sure what your angle is, nor what it has to do with me telling you that crab sigil doesn't turn people into unstoppable gods like they seemingly think it will as Faa is thoroughly remodelling their assholes, but you're free to believe some shit you just made up in your head.
>just play meta characters like Percy, Vaseraga, or Id instead of building your favorite female characterThe shit you read on 4chin. Your metahomofaggotry sickens me.
>>574968327>telling you that crab sigil doesn't turn people into unstoppable godsAlright now you're making shit up. All I said was that it's always worth slotting over one of the new damage cap sigils because it both increases your damage more than they do and it comes with built in stats to help you survive to make up for the slot you lose by using it. But keep being a total retard I guess, nothing I say can fix you being a braindead moron, except kys I guess.
The crab sigil is good.The fact that you queued up with Beabrains that blow themselves up every 10 seconds does not change the fact that it's a good sigil.This isn't a hard concept to understand.
We're a crablotta kinda general here
>>574968504Ah, so it was as I thought, you're just not reading what I'm telling you and constantly repeat yourself.Fair enough, we can leave it at that, I'm starting to fear for your blood pressure.
New player here. Are signature sigils still good in endless ragnarok? Or should I just bother with V+ sigils and new sigils. Finally reached lv 100 with Narm and was thinking of farming her stuff
>>574968660>are the sigils that do something else for every sigil for every character still goodDunno man something tells me it might just be a case by case thing
Gee if only there were a way to test whether the crab sigil is good... something that lets people see the damage numbers and damage cap or something... Instead I have to be a sheep and let someone else decide how I play...
>>574968986If it's so easy, why don't you prove it?
>>574968660some were bad even in base relink.Some are bad now(or less wanted) since they might have a master trait that does the same thing or is incompatible with the sigil (i think charlotta has a sigil that you don't really need to run if you spec into a certain branch).short answer. we just don't know.>narmayaprobably all still good or at least usable? butterfly's grace looks like it would compete with her first essencs trait since that says it gives 1 to 3 extra butterflies every time you get butterflies but either the chance for getting more than 1 is stupidly low or different sources of butterflies get a fixed increase. so if anything running both grace and that mastery trait is really nice since it makes her super consistent ang getting to 6 butterflies in a finisher + stance shift.Potentially not consuming butterflies with valor is... alright? Maybe if you run enough cooldown reduction it gets worth it so you always have another skill to spam when it proccs but otherwise i feel like her CDs aren't quite short enough outside of link time(and in link time she has infinite butterflies anyway). if you get a decent grace+ i personally wouldn't bother looking for a valor+ or awakening+.her warpath is a DMG buff + supp dmg for 15 seconds after every stance shift at the cost of sacrificing some SBA gain.Probably a no-brainer now that DMG buffs go over your cap. Just accept that you always go 4th in an SBA chain.
>>574969987stop being a sheep and test it yourself
Who is the worst character? Not just the least liked or played, but the worst overall?
>>574971686Captain, Rosetta, Gallanza, Katalina.
>>574971686Katalina? Doesn't do great damage and doesn't make everyone invulnerable like some other supporting characters. Also poor glaciate uptime compared to lancelot. Only thing I don't really know is her stun values
I don't mind bea damage getting cucked by bosses flying off screen every 10 secondsbut changing clock stances is clunky and annoyingbear trix
>>574972078I found that outside of clock time if you block and then switch stance it's smoother
Bea needs cock time instead of clock time.
>>574968758>>574970281Thanks anons.I decided to not give a fuck for now though cause I just read character awakening sigils basically unlock both traits and they are just luck based pulls so fuck that
>>574972526>>574972434hah true
>>574972680yeah, awakening+ is a huge pain, since i think just like warpath they are only in the transmarvel pool still?if you don't feel like savescumming them just do your level 3 transmutes and transmarvels whenever you feel like it and lock whatever seems nice.The good thing about awakening sigils is they get removed from the pool so eventually you'll get them all. But just like the original terminus grind it might just be a while until you get the one you really want.Unless some character actually requires their unique sigils to the point of playing them without them is an active form of griefing and you would even prefer to run them with the non-plus sigils you can trade from sierokarte than without i wouldn't worry about that.Hell, i haven't even seen a single unique sigil for Maglielle yet and i made it through chaos++.
>>574972680>>574973268Awakening+ isn't that hard to get, and you can only ever get one. If you get it it goes out of the drop pool.
i just fail inf luci 100% of the time
Why are this girls breast so huge holy fuck
I'm stuck in this cycle of leveling someone up to try them out, they fucking suck or aren't fun, then finally swapping back to someone I enjoy. Then doing a new mission and feeling overwhelmed by the amount of faggotry this game throws out at you if you DARE to play like half the cast.
>>574967569>so if your character already has lots of supplementary dmg and dmg%+ and attack buffs and defense debuffs then the umbrella of stuff crab falls under ends up being oversaturated while making the relative value of DMG cap increases a bit higher. I don't think terra+incendo beats crab regardless though, unless your character has special needsi did some testing to see just how bad it can be. >crux danchou>+80% dmg+ from charisma lv10>+10% dmg+ from warpath>+20% supplemental dmg from charisma lvl10+1>-200% normal damage cap because i had skill dmg cap summons on but i tested with X>overdrived enemy, so the +10% atk from crab does not workso a grand total of +90% dmg and +20% supplemental dmg which are all stats that overlap with crab.despite overwhelming disadvantages, the end result is that crab was still better than 2 white sigils (80% dmg cap) by 0.6%. in reality regular bosses will take around 50% of HP in dmg outside of overdrive (i checked vods like an autist) so your atk +10% buff contributes a lot and it's not likely for you to reach the 100% cumulative limit on the regular either to make it redundant. so the other celestial options would be terra for 70% but griefs your hp unless you spend a 2nd slot on greater aegis, incendo for 50% during overdrive which is half the fight's damage so 25% being generous, or lumen for 70% but you probably already have that.
>>574973827this after m50 song. going back to bea
>>574971769>Captain, Rosetta, Gallanza, KatalinaThat is actually a tempting party to try desu, pretty well rounded and probably creates an awesome filler event scenario when they're forced together.>>574971885Is it just her stats that are bad, or something poor with her actual gameplay? I'll probably try her first since I really like how she's just a classic female knight.
is immortal shell+ legit or cheat?
>>574964772If you spam SBA before going into Deathmatch manually you get a free SBA.
>>574974593Obviously cheating
>>574974781what the fuck
>>574974593Cheat, the chinese name didn't give it away?
People cheat in this game?LMAO
Granbros…
Am I retarded or Fediel just fucking sucks
>>574974593>50k more attack power>so much cap he barely hits it>cheated sigils - war ele and fatebraeker can't roll like this either can they?>less overall damage and dps
>>574974497Katalina suffered in base relink because dodging and blocking would just remove ares and your bar. which means it is pretty much unusable in this game where enemies constantly throw out shit.They improved it a little bit. Ares still disappears on block/dodge but you don't lose your meter so you can immediately whip ares out again. still not that great though.
>>574974497her mastery trees are just really poor. They don't offer anything amazing and the one that does has a downside. One of the other one requires great uptime in a game where bosses fly away for 20s at a time.
>>574975342you can sigil synthesize the fatebreaker but yeah I don't think war elemental can roll celestials as a secondary
>>574974593Parsing is all well and good but I don't like the idea that it can crawl up my character's asshole like that. But yeah that guy's definitely cheated his gear.
I compare yoda and percy masteries and I think 2 different people designed those and they never talked to each other in their life
>>574974593Might as well add in all the damage cap X effects from the transcended weapons and supernova onto custom sigils if he's going to cheat
im going to turn cagliostro into a buff slut
Damn perfect striker is great but there's just no fucking way I'll never miss an input in a real fight, especially with all the ougi cutin shit
>>574976869as opposed to what?
>>574974781Damn, so it's real, seen pub gallanza doing SBA without 100% bar
>>574974781What the actual fuck. You don't even have to spam the SBA input, you just need to do it during the start up animation for the stance, which has a generous window. Doesn't work with the Deathmatch Finale skill itself but considering it doesn't take long to trigger it normally, that's huge. Fediel players eat your heart out I guess.
>>574978568Why would anyone play Fediel
>>574977403NTA but I took away her spats and shortend her skirt. The cloak stays on though.
>>574978709
Uhhhhh how can I specifically target farm for Beatrix special Sigils? I can only get the bad one from dalia badge trading.
>2 beatards facetanking everything and ending up on the floor half the time>to busy mashing to kill the death card the nigger spawned two >to busy mashing to dodge the death puddles>we actually wipe
>>574974781What the actual fuck? Is this like a reference to his boss fight where he immediately uses his SBA after entering death match mode in the cutscene? It's so fucking random
gallanzas are so garbage holyshit
>>574979163Okay I see the vision
So how do I do at least somewhat decent damage as Sieg?
>>574979992All the damage your teammates deal while you keep them alive counts as yours my friend.
>>574980416I can't keep them alive. As soon as their health stops going down they stop trying to dodge anything. And then they die half a second after I die
2 war elemental gold slimes from bubz but theyre shit...
fuarkI still need to gamble more Transmarvel for good WarpathsHow do you figure out which to autosell and not?
>>574981393
>>574981393Sell anything that isn't a V+ versionsell the V+ version for traits you aren't interested in
>>574982186Yeah too bad I can't just autofilter out Echoes or War Elemental that have Debuff Resistance for example, I had to do it one by one.
>>574952795My sigils are shit but I needed to progress the dlc with randos to get to a point where I can finish my weapons and start prepping for sigil meta for my fraux.I hate the synth grind, really annoying to do. Save scumking saves alot of time tho.
>>574982758You get so many war ele and echo sigils you can make a build with them fairly easily, no? Synth isn't realy something that would stop you from going through the dlc
Well now, that wasn't the trade all I was attempting to do...
>>574974915>>574978210>>574978568>>574979694Just found out you can do it out of flashpoint too
>>574983246Just in time for the dlc that punishes you for solo ougisMan
>>574983246If you can chain burst this, a normal fediel and 3 gallanzas could primal burst every 30 seconds
Beel is the worst fight by far because are you getting fucked over every time someone doesn't block the red orb. Not sure why even bother desu, the drop rates are dogshit and I'm already maxed out on everything else, might drop the game soon until new content is out.
>>574983246Jesus fucking Christ, and I was recently considering redoing all my shit for his skill build too. If I can find a way to fit Faasan sigils in to abuse this, I will be a shitter and do it.
>>574983695It's time for the 4 gallanza party
>>574983695You can only do it once out of DM animation (not skill) and once out of Flashpoint, but thats still 2 ways to SBA from 0%.
>>574983020True but I'm a minmaxing retard who is using the stinger weapon currently instead of defender. I don't feel like I'm doing a whole lot of damage especially when prior to this my only built character was siegfried and siete. Fraux is one of the 2 characters on the roaster I put on a list of characters I wanted in relink. So I wanna at least make her strong as I go through the game.
>>574983993Well yeah unless you massively overcap crit stinger doesn't do shit and your weapon is your biggest source of cap up before late masteries so you wouldn't do a whole lot of damage
>>574963434Several characters can facetank.None can do it as well as Vane can.
The bar for repeating is low now huh, just so long as you can clear
Is there a mod that tells me what a sigil synthesis will be? I dont wanna just add a sigil selector, thats too much, but I do want some inbetween choice that still requires a little grind
>>574984656Since it's seeded that's actually possible, but I doubt anybody cared enough to figure it out
>>574984656There is nothing wrong with selector mod, the sigil system is mmo tier mechanic designed to waste your time. If anything I'm retarded for not installing it the week before.
>>574985181Youre playing a game where the grinding is the main appeal though
>>574985276I'm playing the game where moderately difficult fights are main appeal fyiIf I want a mindless grind I'll go back to base Grub.
>>574984656People still struggle with sigil synth?
>>574979163imagine being the femboy who gets pazuri'd by those every night
>>574945036I saw one with a black side string pantie, link to that one?
>>574976143Yeah, then theres the third inbreed who came with up all the time sesitive decaying stacks
>>574957484
Infinity Ruby Golem soon
>sliming at workTheyll never know
For 4 dragons afk i still need to use eustace?
It's insane how Seofon goes from nothing to a monster during link time. Infinity world btw.
>>574987087The ultimate filter
>>574987289Yes
>>574987104did you punch your screen?
>>574987289>needNo, but he is the best character for being the player "controlled" character while on full assist afk because he is both ranged and has moves to position himself closer to the boss, as well as good SBA generation so he doesn't miss on chains.
>>574983982Once per normal DMF and per Flashpoint is still plenty seeing as it's not limited to once each way per quest. You obviously still have to worry about Bloodthirst before and after landing the SBA, but otherwise you can give everyone else free meter at least. Would also have to be mindful about mandatory chain bursts since it does eat up whatever SBA meter you had, granted you still can throw out one of these sub-100% SBAs to contribute.
>>574987598Nah another employee damaged it and deemed not useable/worth fixing. I just disconnected from domain and set it up for slime :)
>>574987290>charlotta doing damageCheats.
what does fediel call beatrix when bea sbas after her? almost sounded like she called her an uma musume
>>574988326World is static like dummy so it's one of few fights where she can deal damage.
>>574984656Afraid not, the only mods that influence the sigil from Siero are ones that guarantee the results.>>574985276That's fair, but most people will tell you without an ounce of shame that they savescum the shit out of Siero's sigil gacha, the mod lets you just skip that, and I don't mind them using it because honestly the end result is the same, only the method differs.
Can you remove debuff immunity with skills like Cag’s Disruption? I swear someone at Cygames hates Io and makes every endgame boss fly around to dodge spells and also, randomly, gain immunity to magic chain.
>>574988856"calamity/disaster girl" or something along those line, it's just about how everything about Bea is basically "causality is a fuck, I am Beaman, 135.485.648.275 mad eustaces"
>>574988856when Cag SBAs after Fediel, Cag cuts her off with "musune dame" pretty funny
>>574988856Disaster Woman, something along those linesMusume means Woman in japanese
>>574989507I believe it can as long as it's the actual Debuff Immunity buff. Abyssal Glory from the blackwyrm fight doesn't get removed until it fires its laser breath.
lol now the Gallanza SBA exploit abusers are out in full force. I just had one use their SBA like four times in two minutes.
>>574989507yes, skills that remove buffs also remove debuff immunities
Damn this vtuber im watching just got zerk na 45
Is sacrificing this to make space for the crab sigil worth it?I really don't know how to fit it in
>>574990795Something else
>>5749910101 Butterfly Awakening2 Butterfly warpath with DMG cap3 Potion hoarder - Steel Nerve4 Stun power - DMG cap5 Stun power - DMG cap6 Stun power - Supp DMG7 Nimble Onslaught - Supp DMG8 Nimble Onslaught - Supp DMG9 Fatebreaker - Uplift10 Celestial Lumen - Ventus11 Improved Dodge - Uplift12 Greater Aegis - Celestial AquaMy current wrightstone is turbodick though.
>>5749912542nimble r u retarded
>>574991417i liek that ext secnd of invinbility
>>574991254Remove two Uplifts and you will have a slot.Uplift is worthless unless everyone else is running it.
>>574991524Everyone else is running it
>>574991524Narm's warpath slap her with a -30% SBA generation I believe, I can understand running uplift to bring her back in line. Uplift is relatively common though.
>>574991579Just ougi last then
>>574991579>>574991670When it comes to pink sigils I only see people run cascade/quick cooldown. But I'm not a Narm player so I'll trust you there.
How much does Bubz get buffed when people are getting grabbed? I just had a fight with him with me as Eustace, a Lancelot, Fraux and Maggie with the latter two getting grabbed a ton by orbs and the fight went on for 11 minutes.
>>574991890I really wish the game would tell you anything about thatSame with pepsiman cards
>>574991882I mean, >>574991878 isn't wrong, even with that level of uplift I often find myself first in the Ougi race, so I could try to get a Fatebreaker - Improved Dodge and just give up on the uplifts.It feels weird though I can't help but think I shouldn't get rid of them.
>>574992030Just runs without them for few fights and then decide if you really miss them.
Is Drain and Improved Guard the most common trash Infinity Bub drops or something? I'm so fucking tired of Drain summons from him...
>>574991890
>>574992161Here goes nothing.
MILF (man, i love fediel)
>>574992284Each summon has specific skills it can roll. Of course the best ones are usually the rarest.
Have they gone full furry since ewiyar?
>>574988856If you play with English VA, she says Human Disaster
I know he was kinda easy in base relink but holy shit man Pyet-A is fucking annoying in ER, there's never a moment where he isn't in bloodlust or overdrive
>>574988856human (hyuuman) no musume, meaning human girl. She calls some characters the exact same. I can't find a compilation of her voice lines, I'd love to see if there any outliers.>>574989840Maybe I should play some cog, I'd love to hear that.
>>574993009I legitimately don't know how anyone could play the gacha anymorethe recent designs just look fucking retarded
>>574993069fediel's en voicelines are very fun i like her SBA being a spoopy spell chant and her in-town idle lines >dyaaaads~
>>574991254>>574992030>>574992390You need your Steel Nerve sigil flipped eventually. I'd get rid of Celestial Lumen and one of those Nimble Onslaughts in place of two Health sigils. You should still run Ventus and Aqua with a different config, you're just losing too much not running five basics. Get rid of Greater Aegis as well, you should put the crab sigil in that slot instead.
>>574985949The one on the OP is this onehttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1AFlGJPT_xCDVkNd1BbZSEVnNYlPYNjYQ/editGot it from this dudehttps://x.com/peer821/status/2075627978327998581?s=20>I saw one with a black side string pantieWhere? That sounds nice.
>>574993009They finished main story and with new arc they added 4 new races.
>>574993875Theyre characterized fine enough and they have the benefit of being written in an era where chapters no longer end in a "Holy shit there are some monsters here lets fight them!" loop
Does lower fps affect afk bots?
>>574994010Fair enough, I'll see what I can make at Siero.A bit sad to let go of one of the NImble Onslaught honnestly, the skill CD and SBA gauge is really valuable on narm, or at least that's how I feel, but I guess one uplift and one nimble onslaught is a good compromise between completely letting go of one or the other.
>>574971769>CaptainRetard
>>574995443From my experience having just one Nimble Onslaught is generally more than enough due to the diminishing returns on anything past level 15. In theory you could trigger it more often since it's 2 seconds of added invul instead of 3, but getting it that often is rare in most cases.
>>574983309Considering this turns on aqua whenever the fuck you want its absolutely worth the mini bloodthirst penalty
I want to play a character that makes me horny, who should I play?
>>574985452Nah youre just giving yourself a reason to quit the game faster
>>574996497Yeah that's a valid point to make, it's just that since Narm can get some really long ass combos, I've often found myself in the position of "either I bruteforce it or I eat massive fucking shit", that extra second would often come in really handy and I'd get rewarded with some SBA generation.It was just comfy man, but I can make concession, at the end of the day, that extra second and 2% isn't the end of the world.You were absolutely spot on on the sigil arrangement for the mastery talent though, I did completely forget about that shit.
conflux feels like it released with two missing difficulties to me: a non braindead endgame one, and an actually difficult min-maxing one
>>574995015From what I've seen yes, higher FPS leads to faster clear times.
>>574997032It's just a little bit of a shortcut to bring some character up to speed for ER anon, my biggest complain is no multiplayer for it, I can see the obvious reason with the non combat stages and the "run modifiers", but I also think making a separate line to allow for MP wouldn't have been that much.
>Usual after-quest chest rundown at Folca>Get fucking spooked by Eustace hanging on an alcove at the ass end of the town>"Mh, nice winds. Peaceful and quiet."
>>574996990I don't need a reason to quit. If you really want to grind something in relink go grind infinity quests for summons, at least that is somewhat fun instead if sitting in sigil menu trying to get the right combo.
>>574997418He's just a chill guy
>>574995443>>574997002Well, you don't need potion hoarder if you want level 30 Uplift. You can self-sustain from Drain on Terminus + Crab. You also have 25 points to fill with your wrightstone to make the build comfortable to your liking. Even if your build looked like thischaracter - character character - dmg capdefense (steel nerve) - ??defense (improved dodge) - ??utility (nimble) - supputility (uplift) - ??fatebreaker - ??basic - dmg capbasic - dmg capbasic - supp basic - ??basic - ??You could get rid of the fatebreaker slot for the second nimble onslaught if it gives you more uptime and just feels better to play. That's also your fifth defense/util slot for the bonus stats.
Which best triat is for song? Im thinking the debuffer one
>>574997674My wrightstone really is the shittest part of it, it's got literally nothing of value on it I practically have it purely because its got auto revive on it as a back up for the "oh shit" moments.That's really all it gots, I can only pray that one day Siero will give me a golden ball, but the problem is that as far as wrightstones are concerned, they're the part you definitely have the least influence over, you can only farm vouchers and just pray.
whats the easiest echo summon to farm?the only other thing i can do right now is slime and mannn
is it better to give the ai stunner or stinger weapons since it doesnt ever die anyway, feels like the appeal of defender is safety and comfort which the ai doesnt need
>>574997674wait, you can get character + damage cap? I have opened hundreds of thousands of vouchers and never seen one
>>574998086Blackwyrm / 4 dragons can net you a Spartan Echo.
>>574998057Thankfully the main traight on wrightstones is pretty much completely useless so you have 4x the chances of good secondary stats
>>5749980864dragons can drop both stout heart and berserker echo, also it gives a fuckton of mastery points
>No ferry mods
>>574998190Berserk echo too? Damn they have everythingI want natural defenses from green dragon too saw on twitter
>>574998289Lewding the dead is wrong
>>574998289She does.
>>574998086Berserk - Ice dragon and LuciSpartan - black dragon and bubzWar elemental - rolan, lilith and gold slime
>>574997032It feels broken because you can bring your endgame set into there. There needs to be a more Arcady difficulty setting where you are given a set to use. Kind of like Monster Hunter arena quests. The “bonuses” from the treasures feel completely inconsequential compared to the equipment brought in. Alternatively, a maxed out difficulty setting with random infinity fight at the end would also go really hard.
I feel like luci is a fight I'll never, ever, become good at.
>>574998672Fof
>>574998234How can 4 dragons drop berserker echo? The quest can't drop Icewyrm III can it?
>>574998739red dragon drops stout and ice dragon drops berk, i got them both there
>>574998709A crutch won't help me become good.
>>574998672just deal more damage
Lobby????
>>574999120If nobody makes one in the next 30 minutes I'll make one
>>574998739It can, it drops all 4 main element dragons.
>>574993875they've been relying on AI far too much
>>574946018Crippling combos look good, I have her set to Alchemedic for CPU support though.
>>574998830>>574999435Fuck, the game only lists Earth III and Fire III as drop items.Well, good to know at least.
Fuck you and your horrendous drops Bubz. No one gives a fuck about Rupee Tycoon trash. Fuck off.
>>574998213Well if anything, I can report you helped me out a whole lot, I've been running a few quests, some dragons, some bubs, some pyet-a, and so far everything feels pretty smooth and solid, definitely beat my old build by a mile.Thanks brother.
>>574998672have to spend the whole fight skill sealed it's very difficult especially for a beatrix
>Siete in his fate>I have had the schizo voice in my head telling me to kill everyone ever since we helped the six dragons>siete in the story>what the fuck is a six dragon
>>575000343Bro? Your potent greens?
>Bubs charging up his fart>One Charlotta get caught and sent flying off the arena>They manage to pop the "NOOOOOOOO" sticker in time as she fall like a fucking rockI fucking love the sticker system
>>575000492Should I?! Should I just take the Potent Plunge?!I think I'd have to give up the crab sigil but it'd probably be worth it for that fight especially
Celestial Terra 11 Healing Cap up 50% jerks off in front of you
>>575000920Healing cap is decent though, at least on one of your summons. 1% damage loss for potions that actually heal you.
>>575000405>if i pretend to be retarded they'll stop telling me to kill everyone in my head what a mastermind i kneel
>>575000835How do you avoid that move in the final phase if he teleports to an angle you can't get to a safe spot? I'm usually in the midst of an Ariel attack and can't correct myself in time let alone see with all the other effects going on and have already used my gap closer so it's on cool down.
I'm getting insane choice paralysis right now. Do I save scum my sigil synthesis to get perfect sigils first, or do I grind Four Dragons in HOPES to get that berzerker echo dragon, just to replace it later with Lucy/Bub/Lilith later? What are you guys doing? Literally staring at Siero in the eyes trying to figure out which is better. I can't do Infinity quests just yet, so no idea what the order of operations is.
I didn't get carried, this was all me.
>>575001846i think you can block some of the push back, so get closer and block
>>575001846I would also love to know, it feels like sometimes you're doomed to fall
>>575002167The former.No need to waste time when you can move your traits around if you need anything.
>Pyeta charging up with thunder elementWell that was fucking aids.
I'm seeing less Fediels than usual today.
>>575002823Opposite for me.
I'm seeing a medium amount of f*diels.
>>574999120>>574999394doko?
>>575003215HE FELL FOR IT LOOK AT HIM
I'm being tempted to grind this crew.
I feel like playing Lancelot today, someone talk me out of it
Another episode of Beelzebub dropping Drain again
>>575003705if you play lancelot you are gay
Do the companions matter a lot? Or can I just grab the companions I like best?
>>575003705Lance a lot? Zeta?
>>575002569Had fun going through it again during day one. Shame ER goes too hard on the number go up formula and doesnt feel good crashing down the session of a bunch of 30M players with your 5star character.
>>575003961If you want to minmax some farming shit, you can optimize the setup, but beyond that one particular thing they're all good, run whoever you like, just gear them up.
>Song>Fraux>Beatrix>Kat>Danchou>FerryIf I see you niggers play any of these low tiers in my pubs you can bet you're getting blocked after.
>>575003215Sorry I got held up longer than I thoughtID: 5RJY 7HV7 B4KF 17GVPassword: JerseysI'll do whatever quest you guys want
>>575003705Better Square to win than Charlotta. Also Glaciate.Don't listen to this >>575003762 gooner
I did infinity luci yesterday and it was me, a charlotta and 2 federals just chuckin' dark testicles and it was the easiest time and the fastest I've ever cleared that fight so far. I dunno much about her since I've been nonstop just playing on my character and grinding, not paying much attention to what the fuck is up with her. I know she has a bug or something? what is it, she can dodge cancel and throw infinity balls or some shit?
>>575004205Bwo you posted that like two days ago...
>>575004290It was true then and it's still true now. problem?
>>575004205Ferry is cute shut the fuck up
>>575004205Yawn
>>575004268There are no bugs she just have some fucked up numbers on her mastery talents, percy is the one who has an exploit, an exploit that was fixed in vanilla no less.
>>575004337Ferry does no fuckin damage shut the fuck up
I want to bring DjeetaAnd I don't careIf it get in the way
Having Pets > Sweaty Tryhard
>>5750042483/4
>>575003961There might be some that do less damage than others but they compensate it on other ways. Like AI Cagliostro lags behinds in DPS but she is a great support in matters of skill loadout and behaviour alone. Without counting Master levels, she is a low investment bot that doesnt require a strong sigil pool to do her job.
>>575004696
>>575004696What is sex with Djeeta like anon?
>>575004879MMMMMMMSHLLLRP
>>575004268>>575004434No bugs but the fact she can use more than one airborne dodge is kinda BS.I know Zeta can do something similar but her whole gimmick is lancer/aerial combat.
>>575004875I consider Phantasmagoria to be part of Cags DPS desu, in a singleplayer setting cagbot always guaranteed to be good
>>575004696Do it on a lobbyEcourage everyone to use the aids cap up EX style node
>>575004434>>575005127Ah I see, her dark tits are just powerful is all. It's funny the perci bug is back though.
>>575004936Nice feet jita!
>>575004696get blocked faggot
>>575004696Please do.
>>575006005Can you share?
>quest loads>instant disconnectFuck parsers.
>>575004205unironic attention whore
what determines the type of the "Chain Burst"?
>>575006110Swimsuit Djeeta + few other mods, all ER compatible. Iirc the Narm bikini has incorrect skin tone. Also might look bad with some color palettes. https://litter.catbox.moe/k8ir81ucsi47piim.7z
I'm gonna plunge deep inside Bea today and teach her about how babies are made.
>>575006958Whoever triggers the first SBA of the chain determines the element of the final blast based on their own and the intensity depends on how many people used SBA during the chain.
>>575006958You get a primal burst "charge" after a succeful link time, a Lyria banner appears right above the link gauge signalling the next 4chain will be a primal burst.Primal burst change depending on the amount triggered1st proto baha2nd excavellion3rd blue proto baha
does Defy infinity make the Add DPS phases real? was kinda disappointed by chaos++ luci, bullshit aside
>>575006973I'm grateful
Do you think mods improve the game?
For me, it's the Vyrn shlong mod.
>>575008698Nyes, now you must tell where you got that Io mod, onegai
The truth is no one enjoys playing with a Song shitter. Anyone who claims otherwise is a Song main or lying.
>>575004248Aaaaaaand the lobby exploded along with the World, I guess that's a good place to call itGGs bros, still didn't expect Luci and Bubs to go as smoothly as they did :}
>>575009847good shit
>>575009043Here, for you. There are more but these are the only ones I converted myself.https://files.catbox.moe/kp47o1.rar
>>575009847i had fun thanks
>>575009847thank u vros
Who is actually the safest character to play in Infinity quest, one you can largely turn your brain off and ignore mechanics?
>>575010442You already know
best mission for grand refinium I?I wasn't expecting these to be a bottleneck...
>>575010442Not Fraux, Kat, Song or Beatrix for sure. No damage = wipe
>>575009992Thanks, I appreciate it.
>>575010442The only fight you need to focus on is Beel by any stretch.
>>575010442Bea is very safe to play and you can clear with her just fine. Same with Fraux. One of her Masteries offers invuln. Great way to to do damage and be safe.
>>575011285>do damagewhy must you lie to him
>>575011285Because I actually play the game and don't meta slave.
Does the gacha game also hate the captain as much as this game does? I don't really care since its not exactly a self insert but damn, this is such a fucking irrelevant protagonist, the stories are never about him or her and they barely ever fucking talk too, which is a shame considering I actually liked Gran and Djeeta's dialogue from GBVS. In relink they just get fucked over and over, they have Lyria stolen from the, Lyria seems like she talks more with other characters and praises ID more than the Captain, only Seofon seems to say that they've gotten stronger even though there's nothing they have that actually makes the canonically stronger besides feats I guess? from the gameplay side of things they're like a support and they're not even the best at that either, master traits fucking suck/are underwhelming. Like, why even put them in the game if you're going to do this, make them a summon like Rolan
>>575011746Meant for >>575011358 obviously.Are you a Percival cum guzzler anon
NOOOOOOOO SHUT UPPPPPP STOP PLAYING FRAUD CHARACTERS LIKE BEA FRAUX DJEETA SONG FERRY BOX ROSETTA MAG COG IO KAT AND NARMAYA
>>575011802Is my keyboard fucking broken? I sound like a drooling retard in this post...fuck
>>575011802Depending on the event/writer, they're either Goku Jr, or an irrelevant jobber that gets treated way worse than they do in Relink. Usually the latter.
Drain
>>575011802>Does the gacha game also hate the captain as much as this game does?it hates him even moremany of the writers use grub as a playground for their OCs and begrudgingly include danchou
>>575012229the solution?
>>575012131>>575012240I see, well, that's a damn shame, I think Djeeta is pretty cute and Gran is a cool guy, both of them have very enjoyable intro dialogue in GBVS with all characters even though they barely talk with anyone in Relink.
>>575012337Getting Spartan Echo w/ at least 50% Normal Damage Cap up would be nice
>>575011903I play Fediel, Ganda and Perci. You're welcome for the carry. Faggot.
>>575011802You'll never guess what happens in Fediel's summer fate episode.
>>575011237I wish Vane's block mechanic worked below endgame.
>>575012443>even though they barely talk with anyone in Relink.This is actually how they are in the gacha, which makes it even more of a damn shame since Relink has tons of dialogue between any combination of characters due to all the battle banter, story dialogue and whatnot.Versus (and the anime) really should've been the blueprint of how to characterize Danchou going forward.
>>575012615>can't even spell Ghanda correctlyYes yes, you totally play the game and mog all of us coomer waifuchuds.Anyways, go back to your containment general, faggot.
>>574998098anyone got any opinions on this
>>574998098>>575013169it shouldnt matter because you'll be giving them ascended or terminus weapons at the end anyways, but if you really had to pick for now just give them stinger weapons
>>574998098Yeah I put Stinger on my AI buddies until they can get their Ascension weapon going. Stunner is probably better since contributing to more link attacks is always good.
>>575013169Wait a minute, you aren't Mastema...
>>575013169Just go Stinger and make sure they all have Improved Dodge.
>Years and one expac later and Gallanza's drops sitll plague meI will never be free of this fuck, will I
>>575014004The Cornfux awaits...
there's this gap between Hexa and Defy infinity that involves sliming for several dozen hours
>>575015051Ive been trying to find a way to make it so that every Chaos++ quest drops 3-4 ambrosia but I cant find a way to do it
>>575012794You only need m3 for it to function fine
Silver Centrums... dokodesuka?
>painstakingly go through my entire sigil list locking only the ones with a trait I want to fuse so that I can mass sell the rest>go down to 2500 sigils>finally use my 99k vouchers + an extra 200k or so from all the shit I could sell>3500 locked sigils>vouchers are capped AGAINI've lost controlthe only things I want are some specific character+ sigils and supp dmgcap wrightstonesI wish I could roll exclusively for those with the vouchers
>>575015397quatro dragonos
>>575015513Gracias
>>575014389I don't wannaI DON'T WANNAI WANNA PLAY WITH PEOPLE RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I'm getting gated by Legendary Merits (the red ones)I could've sworn you used to be able to trade for them but now you can only trade for the blue onesI don't wanna do a thousand Conflux runs just to upgrade Ascension weapons
The generic Erune woman NPC give me strong urges
>>575007779hexa infinite the adds are actually difficult to kill in time if you guess the wrong one first
I wanna run a dps log, but gbfr-logs doesn't seem to work for me. What are people using? The nexus mod one seems to be gone too lmao.
Do i have to get all 40 crabs to get the good effect of immortal shell
>>575017058you better believe it bucko gotta get all them and more
This is probably a retarded "Bea like" question here, but let's say I was blessed and got 3 slots of 100% Normal Cap ups as opposed to the 50's. Does that mean I will be dealing 150% more damage across the entire fight?
for the first time today I pulled off the SBA into Link time DPS window nuke and i gotta say that stun bar is retardedly small
>>575017307If you had literally no other sources of damage cap, then yes.
>>575017307No, you added 150% cap up to the already bloated 1800% cap pool you have from masteries, collection and terminus
>>575017759What if my cap is at the limit already (65 or w/e), is it a miniscule enough of a difference to make the grind not actually worth it?
who the fuck looked at a summon character like Ferry with 3 moves at best and said "yeah lets make one of her specs remove a defining mechanic of the character and replace it with jackshit but numbers"
>>575018220The same retard that saw Narmaya being a stance switching character and decided "yep, let's remove the stance switching lol"
balance patch doko
greater aegis lvl 30 or steel nerves lvl 15?
>>575018317For what... everything has been beaten already with every combination of every character, and the most we can hope for is costumes....
>>575017910NTA but wouldn't Stun Power be a better investment in that case?It seems you can never have too much stun
>>575018220you have to summon a lot more on the petless style and be very mindful of how and when you dismiss them. the summoner style is literally just spamming onslaught most of the time since your pets usually don't despawn
What the fuck is a dyad
>>575019379you got it backwards, you can never have too much damage, but after a certain point you've got enough stun to do what you need to do
>>575019476A little less than a triad
>>575018309I just tried this out, narmaya wasnt even that complicated to begin with this just makes her more braindead than Charlotta
>>575018125I doubt you'd notice a difference, but if you enjoy the grind or have minmax autism then go have fun.
>>575019476A bit more than a monad
>>575020107...o
Ventus was a mistake
>>575020041Oh, then w/e then. I was just curious to know if I'm saying doing just under 400M will Yoda with a bunch of 50's would I push 500M+ with them.
>>575020609Shut up Terra, you get wuat you deserve for listening to Nort.
Fediel is for Danchou
>>575021676not according to cygames
>>574945036This is an old man in drag.
Am I missing something about siete? You just do normal hits into finishers, summon your dude and then do more normal hits into finishers?
>load into luci>see someone with neither guts nor auto revive>leave
>>575021891Queerness is ageless
Guard and Dodge Payback go beyond cap, so now theres a tangible reward to perfect guarding
With Crux Beatrix do you guys prefer the charge attack or the slow as last skill?
>>575001846>have already used my gap closer so it's on cool down.simply don't do this
The final self imposed challenge in ER to prove youre good at it is soloing infinity world and if youre Fediel it's Versa infinity because fuck you eat my ass
>>575022797doesn't work in od anyway
>>575019476when a man and a woman love each other very much
>>575023492I will be attempting this with my main once I get my NA Cap summons
>>575021891Drag is just ugly men wearing gaudy female clothes, Cagliostro is a scientist ethically researching the peak of the female form.
>>575024065>researching the peak of the female form.And clearly failed, because he didn't make himself a Harvin.
>>575020875god dammit I laughed
>>575021891wtf i want to fuck old men in drag now!?
My god, I just found outhttps://youtu.be/TFsAT5TtzSg?si=Qf435wbn71WcRT3Ithis is a Masaaki Endo trackliteral god singerhttps://youtu.be/-dWZcF58EgA?si=9oxXh5X13UgITT58
>>575025067Is that from the new meme mode?
>>575025449yeah. It has a 200 hit omen
Give me one good reason why, at least when offline/closed
I need to raise more dudesWhat is the most fun character for you, and why?
how much damage do you actually get from running 400% normal attack cap on your summons compared to 0%? anyone done the math? assuming you're playing something that does the bulk of its damage through those rather than skills
>>575025067>Masaaki Endohhttps://youtu.be/idhjkQ4TwBM?is=pVjK7MaDpENzHYvjACCEL SYNCHROOOOOOOOOOO
>>575025845gallanza>huge motherfucker bigger than some bosses>skill build lets you go apeshit with huge damage>one of the few characters who can get away with an actual skill damage build>martial spear does shittons of damage>flashpoint does percy tier burst when you hit 10 stacks of wild showman>has unique dialogue during bubs that ive never seen other characters get>shrugging off damage with stout heart, steel nerves and stronghold while constantly being in the boss' face is fun as fuck
>>575025845if you want dudes i think id is pretty fun. perfectionist eustace is a little too hard for me since he has a very high risk playstyle of perfect dodging with charged strafe shots
>>575026091About 400% divided by your cap
>>575026294>He also gets free SBA procs during Flashpoint and Deathmatch(This will definitely be patched out but enjoy it while it lasts)>He's voiced by Sundowner the Invincible in English
>>575025067It's a far cry from your usual GBF track but its pretty good regardless.Also fun event.
>>575026109dude hit 35 and dedicated the rest of life to being THE guy for anime OSTscrazy shit
>>575026318I'm fine with female dudes too
Why even play if the ai plays better than me
>>575026884you do it faster
>>575026720Well do I have a bro for you
>>575026294There's apparently a perfect input for his enrage mode that lets you loop the smash but I can't seem to find it. Do you even want to do that move?
it's time for bedtrix
>>575027378its a perfect timing on his X string like sieg after the flash turns blue you get a powered up turbineyou ignore this for skill build
MAKE A LOBBY FAGGOTS
>>575026720i unironically think petless ferry is pretty fun, it's very hectic to maintain your 9 stacks at all times and you kind of have to know how your cooldowns work. for example, pendel takes a long time to auto dismiss its summons, if you use it 4 aerial loops after your buff refreshed, you probably have to force a dismissal with onslaught to refresh your buff in time, but pendel slowly dismisses its 2 summons one by one so it can extend your buff by a lotstrafe takes even longer and can basically be onslaught dismissed at the very last second your buff falls off even if you used it just when your buff refreshed, purge spirits auto dismisses pretty fast but is a very slow and high commitment attack and prone to missing so you have to use it carefully. both strafe and purge spirits should ideally be onslaught dismissed since you get 15% dmg boost from her warpath for onslaught dismissing 3 pets. link attack pets auto dismiss extremely fast so they should always be onslaught dismissed immediately, sba pets last about as long as purge spiritsthen of course during downtime, you usually want to let the 9 stack buff expire then build it up again with pendel, strafe and bleus while the boss isn't targetable, but you have to be careful not to get 9 stacks before the boss comes back or even accidentally let sub 9 stacks expire since that isn't permanent either
>>575025845most fun is beatrixhonorable mention siegfried but I'm too greedy to not run his warpath and I just die with it so I retired him to the CPU mines
>>575027629Yeah I was retarded I and trying to do it with the wrong buttons, it's actually pretty easy. funny how every perfect input feels like sieg, except yoda which it the total oppositeSo what's the gameplan? Spam skills and reduce cooldown wirh normal combos?>>575027835I'll check that out
>>575027737YOU DO IT
>>575013169fuck you mastema
>>575027965>whats the gameplanget 10 skill stacks, use flashpoint to burstXYY when not in deathmatchair combo XXXY when in deathmatch since perfect inputs and turbines dont count as combo finishers for cooldown reductionif you want to use him for AI the skill damage build is okay but turbine would probably be better since the AI gravitates towards it in deathmatch mode
>>575011802On the mechanical side of things its practically impossible for him to be bad in the gacha considering he's a mandatory character, has access to classes for better flexibility and specialization, and last I checked if he gets Ko'd the team losses access to summon calls. But yeah story treatment varies a lot depending on the event's focus, and on the other hand a lot of his dick riders aren't in relink.
>>575025845Maglielle>very cute>ranged character>skill build lets you spam her damage skills constantly (provided you don't whiff the Blade Dance finisher)>very cute>shield build does great damage and has excellent survivability. Works great with FoF too, you get so much DMG Dealt from the shield that you don't lose much attack during FoF's invincibility>Caduceus and Paenic Aegis are great utility skills>very cuteThe only downside is her XXXY combo cursor can go full retard sometimes and it has a mind of its own, but most of the time you'll be fine once you get a feel for it.
>>575028891I've got only bad experiences with the aoe targeting. Maybe it's a mouse and keyboard thing but it feels very ass
Im building my afk party
>>575028873its really funny how narratively danchou swings from>can literally go toe to toe with guys like lucilius, bubs, the one guy from the last anni event that became a temporary singularity by channeling 3 homos>goes danchou blanco and nearly kills phoenix, dunks on demiurge and kills the astral god and versusia almost effortlesslyto>literally jobs to some random shitter npcs in a ton of events>is awed by bleach characters>gets outpaced by some fags on an island who ate monster flesh and make kengan omega readers have a brain hemorrhageand then in gameplay is easily the strongest and most powerful unit in the game
Berserker Echo worth to equip despite a useless bonus?
>>575025845Vane because he's the bestest boy with the bestest attitude, plus you can just sit there and not even play the game
The red trio in conflux is too fucking fast
>>575029335They keep getting outshined in events that don't focus on them, by necessity but the gameplay comparison is even funnier considering A thousand reasons did have him fight the entire event as lucha gran in the story so the bullshit he can do from his classes are semi-canon
>>575029382YeahAlso Heal Cap isn't useless, it works on potions, I'll take it any day over Damage up or Crit
RIVER OF DESTRUCTION HERE AT MY COMMANDRIVER OF DESTRUCTION AGAIN AND AGAIN
>>575029382do it and look at the empty slot in your sigil build and tell me what you feel
>>575030178YOUR FATE IS OVER RETARD
>>575030178*Rebirth and Destruction
>>575029335>>gets outpaced by some fags on an island who ate monster flesh and make kengan omega readers have a brain hemorrhageNone of this would be happening if THE CONNECTOR was here
>>575030581i hate the "niko style"
>>575027965if you wanna use petless ferry, i would usually recommend having all 4 skills summon pets since she is very reliant on dismissing pets to maintain the 12 second duration 9 stacks. hinrichten is of low value since you don't get more damage after 100% atk boost or def down, and 9 stacks + your def down is already 100%, it's pretty much only good for the invuln and supp. i would take strafe, purge, pendel and blaeus gespenst. petless ferry really wants cooldown cuts so ideally you should have 45 qcd and 15 cascade to keep the conveyor belt of pet dismissals going, and then just take the masteries that help with buff duration and skill cds. test out her skills on the dummy, especially pendel and bleus to see how late you can use them for their autodismissals to still refresh your buff in timesome people recommend umlauf but i think it's not worth it. the cd is a little too long for my liking and it's hard to track when beppo autodismisses so he doesn't help you much for maintaining your stacks. his damage isn't exactly amazing (seems to be around 1.3m per tick for me) either. he will also grief you if you use him before using strafe and purge spirits and are trying to build to 9 stacks since he doesn't count for a stack. the upside to using him is pendel will count as 3 summons for her harmony sigil and will proc her warpath when onslaught dismissed since he does count as +1 in these case, and he does gives you stout heart. but i would honestly rather just slot in a stout heart summon and use blaeus gespenst as an insurance policy when everything is on cooldown and to rebuild stacks during downtime
>>575029957>>575029335It was one of the anni events that explained Danchous real power as a singularity is to tap into all his alternate universe variants. Technically speaking, the Main Story, Anniversary Events, and regular events are all their own seperate timelines which explains why Danchou doesnt nuke from orbit half the random mooks he comes across
>queue up for infinity world>we fuck his first phase>phase transition cutscene>suddenly the other 3 guys are dead as soon as the cutscene starts>they use some confused emotes>they leaveWhat just happened?almost didn't beat the thing in time holy hell
Why are the two dudes who currently have the highest damage in the game under relatively easy conditions have to be so uninteresting? Why couldn't more girls be allowed to do Percy's damage as easily other than Fediel?
>>575031569because they are bugged
>>575031639What if I want Zeta to do 800 million on the dummy like Id...he's lame...Zeta is hot....
>>575031893you dont need top tier damage to complete a quest, dont be a retarded metafag
>>575032063You dont need to be a genius to not fall for bait
so I guess the summon system allows you to not have to slot in stuff like war elemental and supplementary damage, but if Im progressing should I still have them in sigils, space is tight between personal sigils, damage cap, fate breaker, survival stuff like potion hoarder or guts, etc. what should I prioritize
What's up with the absurd amount of ppl face tanking the floor in luci is so high today?
Trying to solo the world (infinity) as Danchou is awful and i don't think its worth the time. especially because there's no actual retry option
>>575032669It was the same for me with Bubz yesterday. The better, hardcore players have probably mostly moved on, leaving theore casual folks left.
any lobbies
>>574979992Use the crux style, give him FAT hp, use a buff early in the fight and get your 10 stacks early, enjoy having decent damage and not having to give a fuck about perfect input autism
So if getting a 100% summon is less than a 2-3% damage difference vs 50%...why suffer?
>>575033219Suffering builds character
>>575033219
aiiiiieeee lobby doko
>>575032553survival(can't do damage if you're dead)>damage cap>fatebreaker>=personal sigil(obviously character dependent)
>>575033219because 4 of them is like a 10% increase and I like big number
>>575033838Most characters i have seen are fucking dogshit without its character sigils or warpathwho cares if you are alive if you are not having fun.
>>575032553You can, just need to get there.
>>575034508laugh at his wrightstone
>>575032362her vaginabones are quite erotic
>>575034508Good build so far fellow Maggiebro
>>575004205what the h*ck this is litcherally my pool of characters...
>>575035371Stop giving the schizo attention
>>575035015I wish there was a super damage cap that lets you max out all the to 65 instantly.
>>575032362if my zeta looked like this I'd main her
Sietebros, which of his sigils do I want?
I need a high skill ceiling character because Vane is kinda boring, even if his dick is definitely the size of a baseball bat and bigger than his brain
>>575035727Warpath unless you’re playing Infinito Creare Man.
we need an Infinite Pyet-A because he still can't use half his moveset due to all of it being locked behind adds with 2 Healthhell we need a lot of Infinite bosses, off the dome I think the Id crew and the Eternals really could do with some added mechanics. You really just don't get punished for facetanking them even at the relevant level
>>575004205Fuck off Tiel I know it's you
>>575035532how am I supposed to know hes a schizo Ive been here for 2 dayshow do I know youre not the schizo
>>575036280what the FUARK is going on in this webm
>Infinite Siete>It's him with blue hair, of course.>He constantly makes you fight the Avatars>HP can't go below 7% until he does Carro Magnifico (real)
>>575036474He's been saying the same shit every day, including the two days you were here.Even if he wasn't, his post is obvious ragebait. You should know better.
>>575036509Primarch Sandalphon and Singularity Seofon (Dont ask) fighting off Phoenix forma de real (don't ask) giving The Six Jobber dragons a way to escape (Dont ask)
>>575036280we need a proper lilith fight so we can get an infinity fight against id, maggie, gallanza and lilith togetheri want a real 4v4 rpg party battle
>>575032362i always want to play zeta from base game because she transcends my terminus wep but each time i bring her to pub/lobbies i ended up griefing so hard i instaclose logs from embarassmenthow did people pogo constantly when boss moves and timing suddenly changes is beyond me
>>575036838I didnt realize people thought zeta was so hard, I actually stopped playing her because I felt like I was cheesing so many fights by being in the air and ignoring their mechanics
>>575036509siete not holding back for like 20 seconds
>>575034508>terra>198k hpwhy. just drop terra instead of wasting slots trying to offset it. it sucks
I like making builds in Granblue Endless Menuing as much as the next guy but I genuinely hope whoever had the idea for DMG CAP gets a Damaging "Cap" popped into their skull before the sequel releases in 2034.
>>575036280Isn't the plan that they're going to release up-tier missions much like what they did with Zero?
>>575037846no cap?
wish I could make wrightstones FUCK to make a new stone baby with some traits I want it to have
>>575037915There is no plan, we dont know the plan
Please do not tell me they're going to add Uno
>>575037846God forbid you slot in something besides more damage
>>574960798No Defender is dumb and requires way too much health investment to actually get a good amount of damage cap and since you don't have a fuckload of attack from masteries right away you actually need some attack sigils to reach that damage cap. It's purely meant as a "I suck at the game and keep dying" weapon.
>>575037380If he's running the shield build + FoF (or is just a god gamer) then he can get away with Terra + less HP investmentBut shield build also kinda wants at least a little bit of HP investment anyways because you get to start off with a bigger shield = less time spent ramping upI agree regardless though, Terra isn't worth it.
>>575037846How would you feel if you replaced every single instance of "DMG Cap" with "Deal more damage" instead?
>>575037380This is what I have
Fuck Id. Fuck Percival. Fuck Fediel. Use Ferry.
>>575038706BASED BASED BASED
Are rosetta and ferry the only ones who definitely don't want the crab sigil?
>>575038706I will FUCK Ferry-chan.
>>575018701steel nerves 15 mogs easily
>>575038687>IncendoBro stop please, just slot a flat HP Sigil or somethingAlso you should consider Bladequeen's Circuit
>>575038578Less Sigil slots total, each slot can only take a certain type of Sigi. Something like 3 Offensive, 2 Defensive, 3 Support. Then remove DMG CAP. There games infinitely better.
>>575038930Why should he slot in another hp sigil when he's using a terminus?
>>575038687>supplementary lv61
>>574946026The problem with Rosetta is she relies heavily on your companions not being retarded. Most of the end-game bosses hardly ever move if you have a team who camps near the middle(or wherever their "reset" point is for certain attacks) and stays in melee range the whole time. This is extremely noticeable with Lucilius since almost all of his attacks warp him to his target.
>>57503915213 is from a summon placeholder.
>>575039037He honestly doesn't need Aegis + Greater Aegis, if he drops Terra. And Flat HP doesn't give much HP at all. If anything he coukd run Greater Aegis + two flat HPs, have a similar amount of bulk to what he has now, and have +80% unconditional cap.
>>575023492I think you can probably clear infinites with 4 players with no sigils and that'd be more of a challenge than parry check infinite world solo
>>575037215i can pogo perfectly, drop the hammer then only can do 1-3 pogos before whiffing even with her timing sigil until mechanic happensi'm building her next after this ferry tank meme if i suck again at least she can be the 4th AI
>>575039476>no sigilsYou will eiter get stunchecked or the timer will end you.Lucilius won't even let you get past phase 1 because of The End
>>575039736never doubt the power of autism
Is there any character that can actually out-tank Beatrix w/ no outside help? I tried Fraux, but she still feels squishy. There's no other character in the game that I feel can ignore mechanics as much as her. People say Gallanza, but I see them dying all the time whenever I DO see them.
>>575039926Oops forgot Vane I guess.
>>575039926Charlotta but you require a few neurons more to parry, it still an easy parry of like 2 secs though.
for non slime does eustace still use the same thing - the lightning chain skill
>>575035828I think Vaseraga and Id have similar stun power but I don't know if there are actual datamined stun values somewhere.
>>575040082I use it, it's very fast to cast for decent stun and damage. I don't like his other attack skills
Be real with me: How good is Charlotta currently? Which master traits are people using?
>>575040082What other skills does he use for sliming?
>>575039616Gallanza and Ferry both mog harder on tanking.
What is considered average damage in this game to people who are damage tracking?
I'm trying out Katalina for no reason in particularis her dumbass X + Y really the best way to generate meter quickly? what a silly character
any katalinachads that can share their insights on her mastery traits and skill loadout?
>>575039926Ferry and Vaseraga
>>575039926Vaseraga can literally take infinite damage while his skill is up. If you can always hit the boss, you'll have 100% uptime on it, though realistically you'll need to dodge sometimes.
>>575040585You can tell all the "swordsman + stand archetype" budget went into SieteAt least she can freeze and has some support stuff
>>575039926FoF shield Maggie
>>575039926I don't think she out-tanks characters with dedicated tank builds, but Nyx Io is pretty good at ignoring mechanics when she feels like it.
I suck ass with charlottaHer masteries kinda blow too
>>575040623Considering how zippy bosses are later in the game Vaseraga seems to at least require boss knowledge and some effort to be played effectively.
I don't care what the gacha says. Fediel and Gran belong together.
>>575040585Katalinas gimmick is that her skills let her loop her Y combo so you want to stay in that for as long as possible
>>575039926aside from meme ferry, phalanx danchode probably would be the tankiest if you count covering for teammates. just build up your stacks and collect your 20% permanent defense up
>>575041341The Vas guide video I saw said he needs his character sigil + Cascade + Quick Charge to function. And even then he also needs to land his charged attack 8 times before Immortal Pain wears off to cycle it. It sounds reasonable, but bosses like Bubs will make it very hard to hit that number in that time limit.
>>575041336You need her warpath and parry sigil.Literally no excuse to miss a parry with that much window
Its not fair i only get fucked over, all master style stacks systems should decay with time if not refreshed
>>575041472*Galleon
>>575042039Third wheel
gotta say this is the first MH-like game where the tech feels both intentional and fun at the same time, which is a rare combo today, its usually either orhttps://youtu.be/kmedOKAnC3U?si=TVR2R3c9YNXI8UHi
>>574964295>210 stun
My two mains
>>575042101It is really weird how well cygames managed to do so many things with Relink as a whole, like I legitimately did not expect the game to be as good as it was, even with its problems. Honestly the fact the grindiness is one of its biggest problem is like a really good problem to have.
>>575042240Always go for the same man...
>>575042101It used to be unintentional, the old 1.1 patch removed a lot of cool interactions and glitches...but some of those old glitches have made a return through mastery traits.I'd expect some things like Gallanza's free SBAs to be patched out, but most of the stuff you've been seeing will stay this time.
Im still unsure who to mainFraux is pretty alright but the stance swapping just to fill the stupid gauge is a bit wobblyBea is pretty brainless and feels alright, but her skills feel kinda weak?I like the autistic screeching though
Yo!
Outside of Fediel and fixing Percival's bug, does this game actually truly need a balance patch? I see people often talking about how they hope one is coming but every character can already S++ every mission with every combination of other characters even outside of Fediel so...
Fediel Fediel fediel
Fediel fazbear
>>575042852Yes it needs a balance patch because not everything is about damage but gameplay.Any top tier can be fine as long as they are fun, if they require bug abuse or something lame like repeating something very boring then yeah that's no fun.At least, from a design standpoint as there always will be people that enjoy cheesing the game.
>>575041858Nah I just hate the plunge gameplay
how strong do i have to make my fucking eustace to farm slimes properly? I barely get to 85-90 killed and I got his terminus weapon maxed and ascended and max traits too ffs??
>>575042852Its just not fun getting fucking gapped by fediels. It makes the rest of us feel like we aren't doing anything whiel we get carriedIt doesn't need balance because characters can't beat content. It needs it to keep the content fun for everyone
>>575042101I have to imagine cygames learned some things about dmc-likes from their time with platinum. Every character in the game is very simple to start but have very indepth tech. It's as if DMC5 had around 35 Neros or if every Dante weapon was its own character
>>575042954Even if she were to get nerfed, what...fights across the entirety of the game with her involved take, what, a minute longer assuming the rest of the crew is fully built as well? It's not like fights with her involved over say...the Captain are 10 minutes shorter.
I can sense the fediel metafag's melty coming from a mile away
You play fed because of metaI play fed because shes made for sexwe are not the same
>>575043217Fair enough, I guess. Who do you main anon?
How braindead is Id to out damage the cast.
>>575043446I don't really have a main I've got like 4-5 characters at or near max that I like using, and I just like learning and using lots of characters. Bea is probably the closest to a main I guess
>>575042852I hate how the master traits have such massive drawbacks. Someone like Ferry gets screwed from hers. They should just let every character go wild.
Why does everyone in this general main Bea
>>574965194I hate the regen, any way of blocking it?
>>575043643I use her, Zeta, Eugen and the Captain myself. I'd argue the only buff she needs is clock freeze. But I've beaten Fediel's with all these characters on more than one occasion, but maybe they just sucked kek.
>>575043782Retarded women are fun
>>575043894Yeah a clock freeze would be nice.I've beaten Fediels too, I think they are just not playing her well. I have a friend that plays fediel 'correctly' and I basically never beat him when we play together and he gets 2 SBAs to every one I get (even if I'm running uplift) its crazy
Hugs, kisses and headpats.
>>574975342>>574975660I forgot about sigil rules cause you synth everything now but am pretty sure double orange is an impossible drop
>>575043782Are there actually a lot of Beatrix mains here? If so, that's fun.
>>575043782I can think of two very big reasons
>>575042852Some styles are unplayable, like the one Siete has to build two different stacks
>>575043782
>>575044173Her eyes are beautiful
I want to main coffeeman but the fact they dont let you change his angel form skills hard filters me
>>575043740I noticed a lot of Master Traits are like that, and some characters have two styles that have big downsides and one which is just built better. Maggie's for example:>Essence: Get to spam skills but if you whiff Blade Dance IV (or if it just fails to target the enemy properly) you're stuck twiddling your thumbs because you have no other way of getting your skills back up>Insight: You put all of your points into making Blade Dance hit as hard as possible with +30% Damage Amp, but you also die instantly if you get hit during it>Crux: You get damage Amp based on yout shield strength, capping out at 80% on all attacks. The downside is thst your shield breaks in 1 hit, but you're playing Infinity, that was gonna happen anyways. You hit harder than Insight on all your attacks and you're more durable too. You also don't have to worry about cooldown hell if you mess up since there are plenty of ways to get a shield going again.
What determines linktime's duration? does linked together extends it?
>>575043782Check the Nexus mod page with Adult Mods visible. That's why.
How are you supposed to be able to fix old mods for ER? There's this Io mod (Lenatis' Mini Skirt) I want to use with ER and it doesn't look right in the game with that mod manager "Auto-Upgrade .mmat constant buffers" option, and without the option everything but the head looks dark.I'd like to try that solution 2 from here: https://nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/models/updating_models_for_er/#solution-2-diff-the-material-files-and-apply-the-changes-manuallyBut I don't know how to get the original .mmat files.
>>575042852Yes. Not even because of damage but some characters need adjustments to feel better to play. They completely dropped the ball with Ferry twice in a row now.
>>575043142You said "suck ass", you cannot suck ass plunge gameplay unless you are literally disabled. is just X-Y-Y. the basic button presses.Besides, for how much bosses move you are 50/50 on X and Y finishersHer masteries are good because supplemental is not something that everybody has and she has it pretty much for free with a pretty good uptime.
WHY DO I GET A FUCKING VANE PLAYER EVERY TIME I TRY AND FARM THE DRAGONS FOR A TERMINUS UPGRADE
>>575045463The problem?
>>575045726He can't even compete
THE BUBBLE IT DOES NOTHING
>>575045249>supplemental is not something that everybody hasYeah they have good masteries instead
>PLAYED LIKE A FIDDLE!>SCHOOL'D LIKE A FISH!>READ LIKE A BOOK!
>>575046379i am vomit
any rooms? otherwise im back to afk farming
>>575045726Every time I get one in my team they do fuck all outside of that shitty bubble (you know, the one that I can just press the dodge button to get the effect of). You never see the 2 katalina players in existence use their shitty invuln skill.And every single time there is a vane, we fail the dps check in the platforming segmentI have never seen a good vane player
>>575045213How did Ferry get fucked?
>>575047364Guys I just to to chaos/fatebreaker quests please tell me what I should doDo the stats from weapon mastery affect my character if I dont use that weapon, if so should I transcend weapons for the mastery bonuses for my mainWhat should I farm im only 23000 power and I see people at 50000I feel really behind :c
>>575047364By a pack of wild animals filling every hole.
when the fuck are we getting a good parser?
>>575047723>>575047364I did not mean to tag you sowwee
>>575047723>What should I farm im only 23000 power and I see people at 50000Work on transcending a weapon to tier 3 and use it, it should spike your power to 30k. Between chaos and chaos++ you'll float between 30-38k power. Its not until you beat the game and start unlocking the mastery breaks that you start spiking to 50k+ power, so don't worry too much about it.
>>575043782really great victory screen
>>575040380depends a lot on the fight, bubz will have a lot lower dps than hexa for example, i can hit 4m dps as ferry on hexa but i can only hit like 2.7m dps on a good bubz run
>>57504736412 seconds
so the character from the base game i do best with is big sisthis is an omen isnt it?
>>575047364In base relink she wasnt very strong sitll but she had insane SBA gain, they later nerfed her SBA gain and left her with nothing.
>>575045213>>575048073Have you not seen that sba ferry is back?
>>575047896Is Bea actually the most popular character here in groups? If not, who is?
>>575048542yes, but im talking about base game
the girls are not having that great of a time
>>575047921What's the average Beatrix player in /gbfrg/ lobbies at damage wise?
>>575049065sadly i've never been to a /gbfg/ lobby
>>575047881Which weapon should I use as siete, I was usint ascension but I have to use defender or stinger, is that correct?
>>575048892full afk? how do i cut my time
>>575049705for chaos++ lucy as soon as you full SBA he dies if everyone is built, so make one person generate lots of SBA and go from there. cag is probably holding you back too a bit but i think you can still get a 2 minute clear with her
>>575049705Get better teammates and actually fully build them. I get a consistent sub 2mins with this team.
>>575049886i thought io sucked as a cpu teammate
>>575047364It was me, I sexed her.
>>575049325Yeah. Defender is comfy but stinger is slightly more damage though it requires some strange building. When you beat conflux 5 you can transcend your ascension weapon and after you beat the game you can transcend your terminis weapon. Both ascension and terminus are viable in postgame
>>575049932you can't have sex with ghosts.
>>575049921Io does damage and she gains a lot of SBA. I use an Alpha summon plus an Alpha sigil on all four of them.
I know Cygames hates them because they're ran by homosexuals and fujos but it is legitimately criminal that Drang and Sturm aren't playable. Same with Danua.
>>575050005Actually, you can!https://exhentai.org/g/3956058/158a7663e2/
Any reason why Rosetta is slower to level up during the main story? And why do her fate quests open up so late?
>>575050135Sorry, they needed room for every single homo knight playable
>>575050257That's just a panda...?
>>575050264I think its to hide the whole "she's a primal beast" thing.
damn bros it feels good to go online and perfect parry the World every single time and then check my rewards afterwards and get a pic relatedWhen they add Summon Synthesis next patch I'm halfway there to the good shit !!!
Why does Rosetta put the chocolate candy between her tits like a slut on Valentine?
>>575050823Cause she's a youthful and playful youngling.
anyone wants to join me farming infini world? should i.. dare i say... make a lobby?
so what's considered a good dps number on a training dummy?
somehow infinity versa flies away even more than protobaha, we fucking love rathalos fights or something
is the RACKAAAAAAAAM build actually good?
>>575052004i dunno bro compare it to other people playing the charactershits vibes
>>575051052Hags trying to act young are my fetish
>>575052628yea, play it with glass cannon unironically
I beat a Fediel with Bea again bwos....though I'm surprised I got over Seofon with his infinite Sword stuff. Is he only ridiculous in link?
Can I quickly say that I think Io fireball is the worst skill in the game
Somebody bake the bread already
>>575053623No way fag
>>575053623what's wrong with def down?
>>575053873>>5750538702 minutes Ago I aimed it right next to the boss at the boss and the fucking thing phased through the boss and went UP
Luci feels terrible to fight online these orbs and novas hit you through the dodge I don't get why this fight in particular fucks up dodge timings so thoroughly, none of the other fights are like this
Why is the postgame or whatever just Id bullying?
>>575048892the no maleoids team has broken sub 2 minutes with the power of 120 fps instead of 30
Owari da
>>575054161I can fix id
THE END
>>575054161Fourfold spam has to come out of someones pocket
>>575052964why isnt there a name or tag for this yet
>>575053934hehe classic fireball
>>575053623Djeeta/Gran existing proves that wrong
>>575054364>>575054364>>575054364
>>575054182somehow we're getting faster wtf
>>575031462a well known bug for infy world phase 2, where the camera will freeze in super slowmotion and if you occur you can't control your character AT ALL
>>575044802Hits harder and the time will be longer
>>575042852Yes, I want all masteries to be playable or be at least somewhat close in terms of dps.
