Main website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/enWiki: https://relink.gbf.wiki/>FAQsBase game FAQ: https://rentry.org/RelinkFAQER DMG rundown: https://rentry.co/ytczavom>Patch 2.0.2 detailshttps://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/>Send your feedback herehttps://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedbackPrevious Thread: >>574794260
asc vs terminus max hp after you build with the specific sigil types isnt that far off...
>>574866675damage isnt far off either, ascension is pretty comfy
I think I've gone too far, time to dial it back.
>>574867176
>play Maglie because wanna play a technical dps/support hybrid potatoe>highest damaging move is holding down one button in link time
>>574867570Play Rosetta
>>574867570Don't forget to summon your gun.
Normally in these games you'd think the high end materials would be the problem, but no, for me it's shit like fucking grand refinium I and what not.
>>574867570I play Maglielle because she's the coolest. Even in the base game her boss fight is the best.>>574867884>just plant the roses near the enemyI miss being MVP on Rosetta in Bahamut pubs.
Is narm as button-mashey as she looks?
>>574868035Same in the base game, hell I still have to go fight excav if I want to build a new character.
>>574867884Sorry I don't play weathered out hags past their prime
How does natural defenses work? Can I combine it with another resistance sigil to reach 100% reduction in damage/time, or is it multiplicative?
>>574868451But you play Mag
>>574868451She a young and spry maiden!
>>574868238I did one Excavallion run for mats when I came back for ER then remembered I can just go buy mats with Dahlia badges instead. That shit still takes too long.
>>574867884Thanks for the supp dmg
is it easier to clear infinity with AI than with other players?
>tried rosetta in the world>pepsiman constantly teleports around making it impossible for the flowers to attackhow are you supposed to do this?
I like the gameplay, but man does it contains a lot of subversive satanic and kaballistic messaging.
>>574869307If you have enough damage, yesExcept the world since AI can't perfect parry
If erunes are real then why am I a virgin?
I want to play the game but my fingers are hurt...
question, my IO only has something like 80k, WILL I get raped? and do I need Immortal Shell on her or can I just be lazy and let it on my Siegfried all the time?
why does the matchmaking settings keep changing
>Get MVP>But also get no accolade or merits or whatever those are called>NothingThis system confuses me
>>57487053680k is pretty bad, remove Terra already or embrace the Nyx~120k with defensive sigils is the probably the bare minimum nowadays.
>>574870536If that's your HP yeah you will get rape in Chaos++Immortal shell is for minmaxing
>>57487053680K is very, very low, pretty sure you'll get OHKO'd by any boss just softly breathing at your Io.>Do I need Immortal ShellYou don't -need- immortal shell, but it's nice to have.
how does mitigation calculation actually work? Does damage cut 10% from crabvestment returns stack additively with stout heart & steel nerve?
>>574869446just give up and use another character for za warudo i think cygames balanced everyone's numbers on the training dummy because that's where all the characters are performing equally well
>skills max level is 20
>getting level downed for chaos++ for random questsBruh.
This game is unplayable without Stout Heart.
I can only play low profile ranged characters at a decent level and every time I try anything else I play worse than a CPU. It's so over
>>574871146No Crabvestment is a 10% damage cut buff that's additive with other damage cut buffs and is a sepatate multiplicative reduction after defenseYou can see it appear as a buff when your enter combat with it
>>574871146For more on damage mitigation though, I watched the video that was posted with >>574858267 on how to get 98% mitigation on Katalina
What's counts as "failing to land a charged attack" for vase? If I just cancel my charge did I fail?
>>574872463too bad this is largely useless since you can't exactly leverage this to increase your party's ehp
Is Sandy's best spec just using the Zohar half bar reset to spam CDs? Or can you use stuff like crabvestment to cheat the 10 buff spec?
>>574871917When I go for quick quest and get put in the lower difficulties I catch myself thinking "how the fuck did I go through this shit without stout heart"Everything move so fucking fastAttacks can clip you from a continent awayThe boss will sometime move and behave without any rhyme or reasons, or seemingly soI mean just look at the fucking goblin boss, that shit is basically "what if we took an autist having a meltdown and made it into a boss?"And then I remember that, back then, you just exploited the daylight out of invincibility from perfect dodges and such.
>>574871917I wasn't a believer until I got it and tried it 200 hours laterMan should've farmed for this shit first, changes the game entirely
>>574869804thanks vro, they weren't so bad except hexa infinity was a fucking bitch. my squad could just not kill any of the dragons before they'd do their mechanic so I had to do everything without ever going into critical mode. I have a suspicion percy AI with the 9 stacks build is extremely retarded
>>574874520Goodjob anon!
>>574868661Fuck it tested it myself, it's additive (so just having a summon with it and a sigil with level 15 or higher firm stance makes you unmovable, with a level 15 or high poison resist you become completely immune to poison, with a level 15 or higher slow resistance you can't be affected by slow).
>>574873039When you fully charge an attack and you trigger the attack animation, if it doesn't hit something then it will count as failed.You can dodge a charge so long as you don't start the attack animation and it won't count as failed though.
>>574871438bro your stone?
Is there a good way to cheese these high trophies like no critical no healing under 10 mins shit?
>>574874960Gear up your AI and stop eating shit
>>574874830Neat, easy enough
how do you bulk sell shit once you have over 4000 legendary+ sigils? is there a way to tell the game to sell everything that does NOT have specific traits? or is the only way to go through them all one by one
Ban all Fediels
>>574875457yes, one by onethe best you can do is sell sigils with this particular shit trait
>>574871917finally equipping stout heart in ER and using a gap closer through a DoT puddle without getting staggered out of it for the first time was a spiritual awakening
https://youtu.be/xNkUapPTKsI?si=_knKKiatvPZDyL3yapparently people use glass cannon instead of fatebreaker in training because fatebreaker doesnt work but the damage should be similar
>>574875823>fatebreaker doesnt workIt does though
>>574876007It doesn't THOUGH
>>574875823>fatebreaker doesnt workDo parsefags really?
Speaking of defense and shit, is there a reason why the quackadiles are hitting so damn fucking hard?I swear to god sometime these fuckers hit harder than bubs, the fire one is particulary a vicious fucks since he coat the arena in his DoT lava cum
>>574875823It does work in practice mode, don't think it does in score attack
>>574876074No particular reason, the crocs just hit harder because their attacks are easier to dodge. if Bubz hit just as hard he simply wouldnt be fun
>>574875823>Apparently noomber obsessed retards are retardedYeah that tracks.
>>574875823Frauxfags (Fraggots) are MAD
>You can trade gold xp books for transmarvel vouchersI need to check Siero's shit more often what the fuck I've been trading these for regular smol peepee vouchers for aeons now this jewess owes me sex
Can you get the Immortal Shell sigil more than once? I though it looked nice but I like to set up my characters so they all have their own set of sigils. Just to be clear I don't mean equip it twice on the same character, I just mean have one copy per character
>>574876074They just have really shit move, and yes I agree with you
>>574876574Nope, 1 per account unless you use cheats probably.
>>574875180not eating shit on lucilius is not an option haha....
>>57487342410 buffs are extremely easy to reach, both trees are good imo just depends how you want to use the wing gauge (I'm sure one is better than the other but I don't know)
>>574874960Turn on full assist, works for everything except infinity missions. Of course, if you do you didn't earn it.
>>574877260
one of the most obnoxious thumbnails ive seen for this game, no im not clicking your shit nigger
>>574877471How do you mess up Ferry's pits that's a slam dunk
>>574876518Well I know where my spellbooks are going since I've had everyone at lvl 100 for ages now. Not that I'm expecting anything good from the vouchers, I'm at the point where I want more Guard/Dodge Payback to synth and Warpaths with decent secondary traits.
>>574877471I came across this thumbnail today and I thought it was cute
>>574877636Soul>>574877471Soulless
>>574877636now this one ill click
>bea and rackam in the party>rackam kill himself, at 1 hp>bea screaming>RACKAMUUUUUUUUUUUUUU>rackam dies>RACKAMUUUUUUUUUUUUUU>gets back up, kills himself at 1 hp again>RACKAMUUUUUUUUUUUUUU>bleeds on the floor again>RACKAMUUUUUUUUUUUUUU>what the fuck is happeningthis fucking game
Earlier retard who had trouble figuring out what to do with Neechang in link burst hereI still don't know what to do, but Neechang is fun as fuck, she felt very clunky at first but switching stances kinda come in naturally now.It's still difficult when my monitor is positively drowned in particle effects and I literally cannot see dicks though
>>574877935He has a suicide attack, it leaves him at 1 hp I think, so if the idiot playing him fucks up he easily kills himself right after.
>>574875457I got to the 5k cap, all of them sigil V+, so i sat down for almost two hours using sigil sinthesis without save scumming.Geared up like 6 full characters that will never need to donate a sigil to another character when swaping loadout.
>>574877935>>574878275He has a skill called "collateral", if he kills himself with it every characters are pretty much hard coded to play out a line where they scream his name.
is linked together just not worth it? is it because of better sigils or because the skill doesn't add damage beyond the cap?
Am I insane for liking Lucilius? People keep calling him bullshit because there's so much shit going on but I think that's part of the fun
>>574876074The lava croc and the white dragon, for wathever reason, are fucking menace.
>>574878472yes
>>574877636wait if you fail the block it can bounce into allies? that's hilarious
>>574878545he's literally the only one of the infi bosses that's hard, the rest are a cakewalk and i'll always love luci for being difficultcould do without the cutscenes though
>>574878565damn, that's hella dumb. they should've reworked it along with atk sigils. thanks anon.
What kind of skills am I looking for for Maglielle? Or is it the same across the board for all characters?This is just grind after grind after grind and my characters can barely handle Chaos/Fatebreaker difficulty..Is there any video you guys can recommend for a total retard?
>>574874960The Chaos++ are the ones with the most strict conditions and can be AFKd.The trophy condition for the infinities is just "dont die", thats all and if you play long enough youll come across some god party thatll get it by accident.
>>574878545I just hate the constant visual vomits and the incessant cutscene interruptions.The visual noises is one thing, I can deal with that even if it's annoying, but the cutscenes really kill the fight for me.
>>574867884Is she and Gran...you know...?
>>574877636I clicked on it for that same reason
>>574878827These, thankfully, aren't as important as they used to be, ultimately you want maxed out stun, the rest is your call.
>>574878576It?
>>574878472Uplift is simply better
>>574879039Ok so I'll probably focus more on the new mechanics of Endless Ragnarok
>>574879081the quickening orb
Pls tell me lock on settings. Its so garbage when i need to deal with mechanics
>>574879280I never even knew he does an orb, I thought it's just a punch beam or something
>>574879464Yeah it's the actual projectile itself you have to parry which is why a lot of people mess it up
Wtf percival is cracked
Is there a better place to farm ice dragons for bers echo other than 4 dragons?
im gonna be honest lads, this one is raping me congo style
>>574880439I don't like the concentration path, too much bullshit and it's super annoying to even stay in that circle without jumping out on accident, the boss pushing you out somehow, or a phase shift moving you out anyway.
>>574880715are the other two even ghood though?
>>574877471I clicked it because I am deeply interested in def/reduction stacking, but this fag didn't say anything useful.He just added up def numbers and assumed they're all additive, and his build uses both Stronghold AND Garrison.Fuck me I was baited.
>>574880439Well you have several choices.drop Insight entirelydrop that specific traitswap out a skill for healing windsget even more regen/divergence/drainembrace the Nyx meme
>>574880772Not the same anon but I use magic chain and I find it very fun, probably not as much damage as concentration but you have a lot of freedom and your damage is decent enough, I tend to prefer using gravity well over f7 though because otherwise your stun is very garbage, specially for fights like lucilius where it matters a lot.
oh shit i finally got a war elemental lets goooooooo
It's that time of the day again
>>574880819>Ferry out of all characters being "broken">"""""worst than last time"""""" with def sigil in the fucking thumbnail>retarded red arrow>"THIS ISNT CLICKBAIT!!"all insane red flags, i already knew it would be not worth the time
>>574881329yea im gonna give magic chain a try
>>574881396I got one from bubz with slime. Sba cap up
Btw do the ATK +10% from all the trait insights all come before or after the Damage Cap?
>>574881401NEVER AGAIN
>Of all fucking sigils I do not have any with path of masteryI'm not having a massive schizo moment, right, these things do exist, RIGHT
This game is pretty damn dead on low rank huht. S2 player
The Terminus swap traits are pretty lacklustre huh?
These were 3 of the best mates I've played with, and this World run was super smooth so I was happy when I got the MVP but then I realized they all have crazy low commends, especially the perci idk how you get to infinity with only 3. I wonder what's up with that
>>574881919Yeah they're rare as sigil, you're better off finding a slime summon with the trait.
>>574881958I mean vanilla has been out for years. You can take solace in the fact that AIs are more much more competent than the average real player.
>>574881983kinda crazy if they thought anyone would want any of the attack ones
>>574881983Guard Payback, Regen, and Nimble Defense are solid picks depending on what you're going for. Otherwise yeah the attack traits don't really do anything, and Glass Cannon is is Glass Cannon.
>>574882153it makes me wonder if ATK revamp got cancelled halfway through maybe they wanted to rework it completely so it doesn't get capped, but gave up due to the effort invovled i can't think of any other reason why they'd add shit like stamina in there for an endgame weapon where ATK literally doesn't matter
>>574882041Nyo... My summon sigils are important too...
>>574882076Quick quest seems lively but yeah, it's mostly me and the AI for now
>>574882440No for slimming they're not
I was told Ferry was bad?
>>574882560>Quick quest seems livelysorry too many proto bahamuts I'm staying away from it
>>574882796>I was told Ferry was bad?I was told FERRY IS BROKEN AGAIN AND ITS WORSE THAN LAST TIME (THIS ISN'T CLICKBAIT -------->)
>>574882796Ferry is good since base game. Just summon your pets and hold triangle. It's probably the most braindead fun in the game next to Lancelot's hold square.She's also the only other character I can bring to almost 30k power apart from The Captain but this is probably more of a me problem
Was Yggdrasil theme not used at all?
>>574883228>probably more of a me problemIt probably is?I haven't even begun optimising sigils and shit yet. Only just got the final Terminus upgrade so I'm ready for the final grind.
>>574882796Where can i get this? I wanna see how i do with bea
>>574883409https://github.com/onelittlechildawa/gbfr-logsDozo, prepare to get disheartened by how many players are just better than you and you don't know if it's because of gear or what
>>574881983heard Perival gets quick charge on it?
>>574883557Everyone who's better than me is a cheater, simple as.
>>574882076:D
>>574879016
>>574882560Feel free to make a lobby and post it here, but be warned, you won't find players of your level.By that I don't mean skill level, just character levels, there's not really any way to bring those back down, even if you strip your character buttnaked, so your quests will get stomped in a matter of nano seconds. It's useful if you wanna get up to speed quickly, but it'll ruin your experience if you want to actually progress through the game.It's definitely one thing I don't like about this game, sometime I wanna go back to the earlier difficulties and just help people out but I can't really do that.
>>574882796what's wrong with your fediel?
>>574883856yeah at least with mh you could pop on a low rank set and go join a new player lobby
>>574883897Probably a sigil setup issue or something.
>>574883856i queue for quick quest all the time, the scaling down system actually make me weaker than average player in the quest
The rarest achievement in the game
The real gorilla was Ferry?
Im installing the grub on my work laptop hope i dont get fired teeheeAlso idk how to play using mkb
>>574883856That's fine. I'm having fun on my own with the AI. Just not sure if i'll ever catch up to the endgame content.
>>574883408I'm like only at Conflux level 4. I hope I can get that level of PWR soon
>>574884183Needs a skip button frfr
>>574884183For some reason I don't have the achievement that says "unlock your master level" despite having a ML55 Maggie and ML50 Siegfried.Is it bugged? Does anyone else have that problem?
>>574883645Yep
>>574883856>It's definitely one thing I don't like about this game, sometime I wanna go back to the earlier difficulties and just help people out but I can't really do that.https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/539
These Beatrix coom mods...hand them over...please...
>>574884295I only play games on M+KB unless I really have to and if a game so much as suggests I SHOULD play on a controller I'm inclined to not play/refund it because I fucking hate rollers and rollerniggers in FPS games..M+KB support is actually really good in this game and would be perfect if the menus didn't require scrolling using WASD/spacebar/Z/X/Q/E and confirm with LMB or cancel/back with RMB. No clue why they didn't finish the job and have mouse support to click on shit.The only other issue is that lock-on behaviour is weird. I'm not sure if it's a bad implementation but the option that's meant to let you move your camera or some shit with the mouse while locked on doesn't work.
>>574884679You have 3 options!https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/664https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/675https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/676
>>574882796are we back, ferrysisters? can i finally play my agp idol without sabotaging my group?
>>574884679No cooming to Bea!!!
>>574884679https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/599
Rackamu!
>>574884740>>574884295Also, using the chat window is the most god awful thing ever. You need to open it, use the arrow keys to select what you want then hit enter to confirm whatever sticker you want to send. It's bad.
>>574884784The first one look pretty nice actually, not even in a coom way it's just... Kinda neat, dunno how to put it.
Do these cats get sick easily?
>>574884895>he's back what is wrong with this guy
faggot jewtuber discovered my percival trick and now everyone will be flocking to play percival
>>574884907There's a wheel for stickers, emotes, and premade messages. But yeah I definitely wish they'd shamelessly copy the MonHun system where you can have a whole fucking quick bar for these, it was particulary nice with mouse and keyboard, which is a rarity in these kind of games since they're calibrated for controllers.
>>574885020u mad?
>>574875457Lock every sigil you want to keep. Then go to blacksmith, sell menu, and on the select menu with the filters there is a sell all tab. It will sell everything not locked.
So is the skill-focused mastery trait for neechang the best one there is? I noticed my performance jump while using it over Paradigm Shift.The taunt skill one still doesn't seem all too good to me though.
>>574885186Do NOT fucking sell your sigils at the blacksmith unless you somehow absolutely need money. Just recycle them at Siero for more vouchers to roll more sigils.
Essence Sieg can reset his CDs with this one simple trick and basically you are fucking stupid
How do aegis and greater aegis stack with each other?
>>574885220If there's another narm and they seem to know what they're doing they tend to get ahead in the score yeah.Personally, I gravitate toward what's fun
>>574885220(False) Nee-san...
>>574885220https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APyjlU4r01Y
>>574884925I agree, it's just a bit more revealing and not over the top lewd, it's really nice.
>>574885447multiplicative
>>574885342i bet you posted this while afk farming in between save scumming sigil synthesis attempts.
>>574885417>this char can just reset his skills>damn that's kinda broken. Which character?>siegfried>oh...
>>574885417If I catch one of you siegfag doing this monkey shit instead of actually slapping the boss, I will definitely think you're a big dummy dumdum dorky dork
>>574885731bwo...
>>574883856MAKE THE M50*5 NO SIGILS NO SUMMONS ROOM
>>574885731Wrong tab...
Does she make eggs, or is she a true mammal?
>>574885731dummy
>>574885619I prefer actually playing the game unfortunately. It's just a total waste when ER tosses brickloads of money at you and it's better to get more sigils to synth with.
>>574885731>[Deleted]
>>574884547Is he the only one? Like, id still keep nimble on my Eustace but am sure others characters would love to have quickcharge on theirs too
>>574885731>>574885845Humiliate him!
Every time Fediel does her Skybound Art it zooms on her boobs and its distracting
>>574885731>he did it again
>>574885810>>574885845>>574885873>>574885974Sorry I'm a double retarded faggot
>>574885614Neat, thanks>>574885984No clue, maybe vase has it too, I don't have his weapon
>>574885974post most smug cogs
>>574884925>cleavage in the front >cleavage in the back it is scientifically proven that symmetry is aesthetically pleasing
>>574878264spam your abilities off cd, same as anyone else in link timedawnfly transient is still your beeg dick, as is setsuna
>>574886251Have a corn instead
>>574886353whys kokkoro look weird
She is gonna be the next Relinker, I can feel it...
>>574876574how does one get Immortal Shell?
>>574885020I was aware he had a great nuke but once i saw it on action with a parcer i knew something fishy was going on. Came across some odd Frauxs and IDs too.Fediel is Fediel and if she isnt topping id simply assume the player is terrible.
>>574885974that's the expression of a man who's judging your dick size based on owner's experience >ehhhh?? mine was bigger than that as a kid
Is regular Beelzebub that damn hard? I'm playing the quest as practice and to level Siegfried to 50, and my teammates keep eating shit and losing. First time, Sandalphon was down half the fight. Second, Teywen was the culprit. Who even uses Teywen in fights like this, where there is no real way to keep distance from the boss?
>>574885528While it's impressive he can solo, it doesn't tell you much because the way he plays is entirely different to when you have 3 other people. No Naru worth their salt is using Apex in a pug though Utter Devotion use might be interesting though because Setsuna takes too long to charge even at 6 butterflies and tends to be neglected when I play.
>>574886353*slap*
>>574886251
>>574886558The chaos++ one? No, he really isn't hard, but his normal swings his decently hard in a wide arc and can totally fuck you if you just unlocked him and haven't invested in any hp. And you know, are to retarded to dodge it
I wish chaos/infinite luci got seven trumpets instead or something new instead of ultimate rebellion purple and then blanco
>>574885417>every one of those monkey rolls count as a full combo finisher and grants master trait buffs accordingly intriguing
>>574886627
So are seofon and tweyen fucking?
Look at that silly face
>>574886558It's pretty easy for it to snowball for some reasons.It's not like he has anything in his kit to particulary cause that, but it seems that, for a lot of people if they fuck up once they crack.
>>574886964smugman is asexual
>>574886805I really hate how they cut labors in favor or just throwing more shit at you. I guess it would have made their new final fight look lazy and uninspired in comparison. But the world already does that
>>574886964>Seofon>Knowing what sex is
Just beat Temu hexa, what a lame ass fight. Whats the best way to get all my guys to Mastery level 50 fast?
Old men are the future.
>>574886964yes, but
>>574887142spam 4 dragons or afk slime quest with 2 eustaces if ur lazy
>>574886415>Pig getting content in Pig HATE Fantasy
>>574887142You stick your peener into slimes, that's how
>>574887284and if I'm not?
>>574878827OM stuff is the same regardless of character>Top priorityStun +20>high priorityNA Cap>power gap>Medium prioritySkill Cap>low priorityCrit rate, HP, SBA/Chain Burst stuff
FINALLY got to infinity quests and wanted to try someone new. Played Vase and Io in base, and got Fraux as the DLC dropped which I find to be pretty mediocre. Don't really like Io's mastery traits, but how is Vase in Ragnarok? Debating between him and Perci who I never played, how's the top end performance between the two? Worried undying will get me lazy and wont be able to swap back to other characters, and don't know how Perci performs literally at all.
>Quick quest>It's the fucking CRAB
>>5748871424dragons (post hexa) 3 minutes runs70k MSP a pop+ 2 summons that can be recycled for 9k eachThese summons also have the chance to come with Stout Heart (fire dragon) and Berserker Eco (ice dragon)
>>574886876Only for Essence. Insight needs the finisher to actually finish.
So with final terminus and fof, will i still hit cap?
>>574887515crab gods
>EN Seofon shouts "Trixie!" when Beatrix SBA's after him heh, that's cute
>>574887612fof debuff is after all of your buffs, you can't prevent it from hurting your damage
>>574887634ok but why does fediel call me uma musume?
>>574887612You'll hit cap but every perfect dodge will halve your total damage output for 6 seconds. You can slightly offset it with Dodge Payback but you'll still be hitting under your normal output until the debuff is gone.
>>574887503supposedly Vaseraga is REALLY fucking good and the rare times i see them they're always topping the honors
>>574887746Kimi no aibea wa
>>574886964siete is swordsexual
>>574887519>3 minutes runshuh!? i can barely do 7 minutes. not that its a big deal but
>perci has a bug and does 750m dmgbased percigod does it again
>>574887798Damn ok i was thinking of using dodge payback too.
Bros been playing for 12 hours and I'm having a lot of fun. Io is so cute and fun to play with, I'm dumping everything on her
>>574887838>el perverto de la cuchilla
>>574887893a bug?
>>574888064welcome to the club iobroshe always remains good
>>574887142>>574887339Why the fuck is this stinky sex fox not playable
>>574887943Yeah do keep in mind that the ATK bonus from Dodge Payback does actually last longer than the ATK debuff from FoF, but you could theoretically be getting more out of the ATK bonus if you perfect dodge normally without FoF. So just things to consider in regards to your own gameplay.
>>574888189Clearly we need more reel humen beans!
>>574887519how the fuck do you get 4 dragons down to 3 minutes
why is fraux taking so much longer to build ougi than everyone else? am i cooked?
>>574887343then spam 4 dragons or if you're too weak to do it fast, spam slime quest without afking and borrow a geared eustace
>Song>Fraux>Beatrix>Kat>Danchou>FerryIf I see you niggers play any of these low tiers in my pubs you are getting blocked after.
>>574888503I invested everything to bea with no backup…
MAKE A 4 DRAGON LOBBY YOU COWARDS AND SHOW ME A SUB 3 MIN I DARE YOU
>most characters either can't stand Siete or find him annoying>the few people that don't merely just tolerate him>Maglielle (a fellow sword collector autist) genuinely likes himCute, I'm glad that Smugman made a new friend in Zegagrande.
>>574888617Enjoy holding those bags anon :)
>>574888503>you VILL be blacklistedCry me a river Chang
>>574888503 embarassing post
>>574888503Go back to your containment general
>>574888860I just started investing in song… i got her warpath with a quickcharge
>>574888987piss off marly
For Fraux's Crux tree, I know the one bunga skill you all-in on should be Dead Lands, but Power Plant is so fun.
>>574888259Serveur! another male doraf, sil vous plait!
>>574889102>investing in songdid you buy trumpcoin and dogecoin too? ya genius
>>574888259>>574887339Gransexual who also drag her friend into the situation
>They add an Erune from the troupe>It's Kou
>>574888676yeah thats right PUSSYsit down
>nyooooop stop playing characters (You) like, play Fediel or Percy instead or else I, the main character of reality will blacklist you
this general turns more into /gbvsg/ day by day
>>574888503>SongAs long you have low profile i dont really care>FrauxTheres some fatigue am not gonna lie>BeatrixWathever tho theres no middle ground, either carried or is rock bottom>KatWho?>DanchouIll know itll be an easy clear...but a slow and boring one>FerryCute
>>574889448Not without galleon posting
>>574889448Do your best to prevent that and ignore shitposts
Just be yourself and play what you want!
>>574888503Opposite for me, if you're a metaslave you can fuck off for being a little bitch pussy faggot.
>>574889448You really want some real /gbvsg/ shit?
Let's have a serious conversation. You bitch and moan that I'm le metafag I'm et al but do you REALLY want a>2m deeps (on a good day) low tier who spends 3/4 of the fight eating dirt>or a gawdlike fediel/percy who comes in, shits out 6mil dps and never dies??? be real
no one asked
>>574889858Metafaggin' spreadsheetbro really didn't like this post kek
>gawdThis post stinks of curry. Throw it in the trash.
If you can't even fucking do damage how can i trust you to do mechanics. Anti-parse niggers are the worst
I've seen more Fediels licking the floor than Songs.
>>574889914>>574890113>2 minutes apartYou're trying way too hard blud. Head on back to /gbfg/ and save us the headache please.
>>574888189Harp specialty not welcome.
>>574890186So fucking what, you know I'm right. I'm sick of dragging your non-contributing ass across the finish line
who the fuck cares you retards, the only character I dont like in my teams is bea but only because or her annoying ass screamsmetafags are anti meta fags are cringe as shit
what’s the percival bug?
>>574888728>new friendMore like only friend.
>>574889265I bought spacex at 180
Farming for Perci. Because SOMEONE has to get the job done around here. Fucking useless ass coomers.
Where are the cog players? you havent given up on the old man have you
>>574890327https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM9kI0XWIBM
>>574890408So true, King
>y-you know I'm rightIs this before or after the part where you bring up Ghandagoza out of nowhere? Either way, get it out of your system, champ. We're all impressed with your big dick deeps.
>>574890447Reported to KMR, HRT, shadowP, danchode, and the harvin micro-bikini squad.
>>574890447>It's same same fucking whirl bug they already fixed in the base game
>>574890447i thought they fixed this in base relink way back
just host IT already
>>574890447HOLY BASED PERCIGOD
Bea stocks to the moon soon trust
Just know that each time I boot the game I have the parser open and I am judging you faggots
>>574890419Buffslut Cog is permanently part of my CPU crew. Reinforce gives Maggie a maxed out shield for free which is super nice.
>>574890760hehehe
>>574889868I'd play danchou if this was a skin
When will I be ready for Infinite quests? Do I just beat Chaos++ and immediately go on to those to max out my terminus or do I at least wait to ML50?
Whats the max tier of sigils? V? Should I bother to upgrade anything below that?
The sky urges you to hear its collected memories.Breed Fediel
Do you guy run quick charge on fourfold vengeance Id?
>>574891337V+, and no. Anything IV and below you should just scrap after you start seeing V+ sigils regularly.
>>574891301Around ML50 +3 should be the start, get your sigils optimized, ascension weapon fully awakened, and all the masteries for weapons done. Infinity other than pepsiman is quite challenging
>>574891301just try it
>>574891337V+, which has 2 traitsNo, you can ignore all sigils below that.
>>574890419Great shield merchant, too good for her own good, she basically turned into Yoda 2.0. Also the 2chain revenge BT was a huge nerf to her game plan from vanilla.
>>574891418yeah, and the ex trait that reduces cast time for -20% def too
>>574891419>>574891457Thanks
>>574891337Trash anything with a single skill that isnt a crab sigil
What do I replace in my build for the crab sigil?
>>574891861Celestial Terra if you have it
today i saw fediel's face on a slice of bread i toasted, i wonder what it means?
>>574891929I've been running terra+lumen+ventus
>burn through thousands of transmarvels >no 15 supp/10 autorev/guts wrightstoneI like mindlessly grinding but man these pools are stupidly diluted
>>574892240Terra outCrab inAlso add aqua
I will not be arsed to travel the game again to pick up crabs
>>574892240Consider running Aqua if you have it, especially if your main has a particularly strong link timeHere's my build for reference, Orange sigils in order are>Supp, Lumen, Ventus, Aqua, Fatebreaker, DMG Cap x3
>try substitute sieg>2 beatards that deal no damage but kill me on every mechanicOkay..maybe not
>>574892583told you she was low tier
>>574892583If i see the little tether effect, be dam sure ill be sitting standing on circles
I saw Pyet-A instant kill for the first time today.It's kinda cool.
>>574892583Why wouldnt i tank it?
>>574892883I wish they didn't change it's BGM to GBVSR music, Burning out the Blue was a perfect fit for him.
>>574892847based
>>574893083I want a music selector NOW
No matter what sigil I choose I can't bring him past 22k PWR.Should I just keep playing until I finish Fatebreaker or something? Weapon is fully transcended tooHe just can't do anything in Chaos or any of my characters for that matter.
>>574893226>Paradise Lost for a Quakadile
>>574893083I guess they wanted to freshen the fight somehow, he's largely the same, but yeah, I vastly prefer Burning out the blue too.
>>574893282What the actual fuck am I looking at
>>574893338>be Lv. 6 Quakadile>hear "LET ME FEEL THE POWER THAT COULD RIIIIIIP ME TO SHREEEEEDS">as you get one shot by a floating midget slamming a hammer on your headSounds like a perfect fit to me
>>574888503if you're going to be like that you may as well just start cheating
>>574893479My set up?
>>574893282You should read what your weapon and traits do anon
>>574889372I asked for this
>5000/5000uuuugggghhhhh
>>574893647What do you mean? Just spoonfeed me I'm retarded.
>>574893282Your HP is too high
>>574893864The terminus weapon you're using has an effect that greatly boosts your damage when you have less than 45000 HP and youre over that limit.
I don't know what a parser is I just press the button that make Bea do the funny yells
>>574893282I'm not sure how far you're in but I cam offer a few suggestions>Transcend your Defender, Stinger or Stunner weapon ASAP and switch off your Terminus when you do>If you are gonna use Terminus lower your HP, it doesn't work when you're above 45k>upgrade your sigils, most of your stuff is Lv11 so you're losing a lot of power especially on your damage caps (remove the fifth damage cap sigil while you're at it)Equip Berserker Echo and Spartan Echo as soon as you hit the stat benchmarks for them (25k Atk and 80k HP respectively), you may be able to use Berserker Echo with Terminus once you lower your HP down to <45k
how the fuck do I play zeta on tiny ass hitboxes like id bossall her dives miss
Will probably finish main story later tonight, can't wait to play online and do all the fun stuff. But before I fully invest my time and go crazy, a question: Which characters are the least popular ones? Wouldn't mind giving them some love.
>>574893885>>574894104I did not know that....>>574894171Ok this helps. I'll go ahead and do those
>>574894402Rosetta, Oigen, Katalina, Ghandagoza
>>574894402I haven't seen a single Lancelot player since the expansion dropped so him
>>574894845Came across plenty on day1/2 doing the FoF thing expecting to get carried
If I need mats to forge weapons is conflux the best way to do it? Just grabbing the upgrade materials reward option?
>3 wipes in a row on Chaos+ SquestrationHuh...
Why don't I sense a single crumb of for (You) from song
>>574895330Honestly depends, I haven't had troubles building those by just doing normal quests, the only really annoying ones are the very first tiers if they require Maglielle's shit or grand refinium I.
>>574894497>>574894845Alright, guess I can see myself trying Rosetta or Eugen. Katalina is such a curious case since I usually love blonde, lady knights (Celes and, more accurately, Agrias comes to mind), but there's something about Katalina that is so incredibly dull. A shame.
>>574895425Does he know?
ER really made Bubs and that cheesy ass song grow on me, damn
>>574895330If you do all the 1 time rewards you can pretty much upgrade all the characters you need up to ER standars. Also dont hold onto damascys bars, just use them, they are uselss in the expansion.
>>574895425she's a dyke in a one-way unrequited relationship with a hot hag who wants to "drink" with gran
Celestial Aqua is a massive DPS increase.Priority wise for slots should be:Ventus>Aqua>Lumen=Terra
>>574895702Shhhhhh
>>574895854Lumen > Terra since you don't lose anything from slotting LumenIf there's amy Celestial that gets put on the chopping block, it's gonna be Terra
>>574895854Lumen = FatebreakerTerra shouldnt even be an option
there's going to be "lowers your attack/crit/stun by 90% and increases damage cap by 100/100/1000%" sigils
>>574895845Like most lesbians, it's only a phase that'll last a year or two
>>574895689Kat is just a very boring character personality-wise. She's not much more than Lyria's guardian, and her more humorous moments from the gacha aren't even present here.It also doesn't help that the one cool thing she has going for her (summoning a stand to do tag-team sword attacks) is also done by Siete, who simply just does it better.
>>574896365>her more humorous moments from the gacha aren't even present hereVee-kun boss soon
Ok i get the 3 stun sigilsBut arent the other 2 HP/ATK sigils pretty fucking useless and you are better off with 2 cap up skills in there?
>>574895445>>574895791Alright thanks. Follow up question is the best way to farm ultimate memories from proto bahamut? This one definitely sucks the hardest.
>>574896541I thought the same thing and for the most part I still agree, but once you start saving slots with summons and slot most of what you need/want, slotting two flat HP sigils for the +80% cap starts looking more appealing.For me it's was either that or slot Celestial Terra for +70% cap but lost a massive amount of HP. Or Incendo which is frankly just worse than a flat HP sigil entirely.tldr: If you don't have WE and Echo summons then yeah don't bother.
How do I find a high level Eustace to borrow?
>>574896907Surrender to the calm
>>574896907AI Eustace is nothing special, you want him as your full assist leader.
I could fix Fraux and Song
>>574896541there's only so much damage cap you can get from non-white sigils, it's only a question of whether you need any character or support sigils (defence sigils are mandatory)
>>574897820>no character sigilsDo Rackam's suck? Or is it just incompatible with the emnity build?
Can you do defy infinity quests with decently maxed out AI's?
I thought Vira and Belial were very popular. Why are they not in this
>>574896365I guess you got that right, yeah. I might still try her anyways because of the stand
>>574897997his warpath one is good but I'm too burnt out on gambling at the merchant for a good oneit's also slightly annoying to keep track of it's buff timer compared to spamming charged Y shots during collateral downtime
>>574898067I grind defy infinity quests almost exclusively with AI
TODOKEEEEEE
>>574898225Great thank you
>>574898101I expect them to add Belial later like they did with Sandy.
>>574898067easily. you won't get crazy fast clear times like you could with a good group though.
aaah hhahahahahaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Hugs, kisses and headpats.
>>574898991This is what 7 Perfect Executions does to an mf
>her face when she sees my wallet
>>574899184I always forget this is a f*male it looks like a little boy....
>>574899184I have enough money and influence to buy several countries but this fucker won't sell me basic materials unless I have medals?why don't they give more medals anyway I have like 20 after 100 hours
>>574899378I'll have you know Siero is considered a beauty by harvins standards
>>574899184The parrot is controlling the girl
>>574899548Unbelievable
Harvins elicits no lust, no feeling of protection. What a failure of a race.
>>574899378She like one of if not the tallest harvin of GBF.
>>574899626be honest you were intimidated by her
>>574899524She gets mogged in that category I'm afraid
>>574899591UNBARIBABO
>>574899685I could be having a massive retard brain moment but I have a faint memory of her being exactly one meter tall.
Is it true that sandals is garbage now. No way cygays would allow him to be bad right
>>574899854I genuinely laughed when I saw this imp squadron
>>574892548>>574892373Thanks bwos
>Harvins elicits no lust, no feeling of protection. What a failure of a race.
>>574899854Her voice did 90% of the work, Hayamin is special.
>>574899984Next patch will nerf fedi to the ground and turn sandy into the new fedi
>>574899969Almost. She's 98cm tall.
I have the insatiable urge to feed her pancakes.
Just did infi Hexa, probably the most boring fight in the game, even worse than turret shit.
>>574899184Maybe if she added something to buy with all these fucking rupies she'd get some Seriously though there's FUCKING NOTHING to use rupies for.
Do Poison and Burn do anything to 1HP Io? DoTs can't actually kill you or damage your shields right?
Nobody in the Grub world accepts rupies for anything actually worth a shit. I'm thinking rupies are actually just scrips or some other funny monopoly money.
>>574900626Redpill me on Emnity Io. Why is this a thing I've been seeing brought up here every now and again?
>>574900786If I put on my serious hat I can believe that skyverse is more vested in a in kind barter economy because there's no real central authority to enforce a monetary coinage.
>>574900814She drains her own HP very fast with the circle style, so rather than fight it, you might as well just lean into it. Io is actually kinda tanky since she has built-in stout heart when charging and a bunch of defense in her master traits, also you can make her heal give shields instead.
>>574901214The concentration damage leaves you at 1 hp and doesnt kill you?
>3 fediels>we failed infinity luci's beginning damage checkHOW?
I like when female characters compliment me for dodging
>>574901352Yeah.
I know she's a rarity, but surely some of you know how to play JKTeach me your secrets, I wanna build her since the mastery traits make naru dreadfully boring to play.
>>574901360Her balls have a fuckall amount of stun
>>574901360it's a stun check not a dps check lilbro
>>574901214I actually didn't know she damages herself (I haven't raised her mastery level yet), I kinda wanna build her this way myself now. Thanks!
>>574900626DoT status effects shouldn't kill or affect shield levels, coming from a shield Mag who survived the Conflux Calamity aura that leaves you in Burn. Puddle damage will definitely get you of course.
But sandy is the golden boy of the entire company. How can he ever be bad
Is there a way to get more immortal shells?Its annoying having to swap my builds around each time I want to play a different character online
>>574901715The truth nuke that Cygames doesn't want to accept is that the glory days of WMTSB are way behind them, and Sandalphon in particular is nowhere near as universally beloved as he was back then. He's just kind of a boring dude that misses his dad and makes coffee now.
>>574901858aren't you already switching builds around because of summons? use the party sets feature and it takes only 3 seconds to change character+build
>>574901396Play Insight Rosetta and assert dominance during link time.
Make Immortal Shell+ and give it Sumo Force as a second slot so I can have a free +25 stun.
>defense mastery tree ran out of shit to give so it just shoves more damage cap in your facealright then
>>574902159
>>574892548do you have 2x more supp on weapon wrightstone or something? or just sitting on lv15+1?
>>574902372Supp Wrightstone + SummonI have to go without Stout Heart summon but it's fine.
is the magic gone for you yet? I thought i lost it for a few days but I started working on maxing a new character and my desire to play came back
>>574901990Going by this logic doesn't that mean sandals should be the most busted character to have ever existedSo why isn't he completely broken
What mastery trait for Katalina?
>>574902797I thought it would be it after finishing Maggie, but I've been building up the rest of my team and its just enough to keep me active. I could do without having to play Conflux 1000 times though.>>574902875He was, back in base Relink. He had two years of being the top dog, that's more than enough.
>>574901396Feed me ecos plant woman
>>574890447Oh shit they brought back the rotor bug? Can captain still do it?
Just had a 3.8b Fraux in my party.
>>574902797Not yet. My achievement autism won't let it go until I finish everything.
>>574902797I liked building and optimizing my AI but my only goals left are throwing my head at the wall for a 1 in a million chance at an upgrade and it seems like a good place to stop
>cap on barrel>667k>cap on lucilius>210k???????
>>574902159Infinity crab will drop that, trust the plan
I just finished Chapted 0>Reading through the journal>That radio call mid fighting Bahamut VersaWhy is he not playable. He's the GOAT. Also am I done with the base game? It says Endless Ragnarok is next
>>574904253The free updates from base game.
>>574903331b?
Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea Banging Bea ignoring Zeta
>>574902797For me it'll probably be the same as base and I'll grind up a good chunk of the cast before calling it quits, and that was like 430 hours in of itself. Really depends on how active the playerbase is and how much they piss me off.
>>574904497billion
Is 313 a good amount of Stun? figure I cant get much more without diminishing returns
>>574905253Yeah. It's the maximum you can get without summon RNG or running the Sumo crab sigil.
Getting a LOT of vulkan lava nigger fights on quick quest since yesterday
My Siete has 258 stun and I don't know how to raise it further. He does apparently get +30% stun during avatar mode, though? That's like 338 stun, no?
>>574905603Overmastery can give you 20 (its the only relevant overmastery stat anymore) and 50+5 Mastery gives you another 40 i think
>hit dummy >510%
>every character's base masteries filled out>every ascension weapon awakened>every terminus weapon awakenedAll that's left is pumping master traits and transcending weapons, but everyone's gonna think I cheated my account once I finish anyway
>>574905603Aside from getting all your mastery bonuses there's really just:>+100 stun from sigils>+20 Stun from Overmastery>+4 from Mastery Trait EXNot recommended compared to othet options but there's also:>+25 from Sumo Force sigil>Up to +80 from summons
How to get stupid hp numbers?
>>574906595Defender weaponSlot both Aegis and Greater AegisCrabcestment Returns also gives like +20% HP I think
>>574906139guess youre the dummy huh
>finally get a war elemental rolan>AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
sigh...ill take it
I got Io to 50+5 and unlocked all her traits, but she's still kinda middling and her magic chain spec doesnt reach above 200 mil on the score testis there something I'm missing?
>>574906904I feel you bro
bros... Beatrix has become too popular...
>>574906904That's helpful though. I very much like having at least 1 healing cap summon.
>>574907398just get lucky with the warpath procs lil bro
>>574906904>me with my WE + Chain Burst Damage 100%
>buffs and debuffs dont affect cap in overdriveif this isn't a bug that is retarded
>>574907398Open a video and see what other Io's are doing.
>>5749079121.1(2.1?) will save us all
>>574907938like who
>>574908097Maygi
>>574908097https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDpNntkXZbc
>>574908137this is all just ZZZ footage Im tearing your legs off
>>574908306Was it the big eared one?
>>574908305i never considered flowery seven
>>574908305I haven't gone back to Io since ER launch but wow this guy looks fucking slow lmao
put all your silver centrums and fortitude crystal Ls and stun power v+ sigils in the bag and nobody gets hurt
>>574908875You don't even play the game...
>more supplemental damage than damage from the original attack
>>574908875Yeah sure not like I tade them for vouchers anyway. Probably wasted thousands by now
>>574909064Why is Nier like this?
>>574909472depressed cause her boyfriends keep dying
>>574907912it does, just capped at 50%
>>574909546She's the one who kills them.
Lemme hear your main or mains if you play multiple.>Siegfried and Doza my most played.>Vaseraga>Sandel>Yoda>Sometimes NarmayaI've been trying to get Gallanza to work but frankly I'm swinging between hating and loving him whenever I play.
Is celestial terra good or bad
>>574909697that's a separate issue entirely
>>574909795Yoda and percyUsed to play a lot of sieg and vase but not feeling vase right now and haven't maxed sieg yet
>>574909552no it doesn't, the multiplier is set to 0 during overdrive
>>574909795Maglielle and ZetaI still gotta get Zeta built back up for the expansion, I've only been playing Maggie atm
>>574909870yeah
I am NOT picking up crabs
>>574906904What's the advantage of having war elemental on summon that a synth couldn't fix?Why would i take this one instead of a summon with good skill + cap
>>574911094You cannot sigil synth with War Elemental, Spartan Echo, or Berserker Echo. Been a thing since base.
>>574910270I really tried to like Percy but he's to easy to be interesting. He's made for people who wanna charge attack but don't want any of the normal downsides that come with it that make charging interesting. You just retard sprint around.
>>574911278And if i already have those what's the advantage.
>>574909795Siete, Naru and Perci are probably my most played in ERI also play Yoda, Cog, Bea and Eustace when I feel like itIm trying to play as many characters as possible to not get bored
is there a way to play this in ultra low settings? my work laptop is overheating kek
>>574911094You wouldn't. You want this if you don't have good substat on your sigil, or to swap builds more easily>>574911280The parry does add a lot to it
>>574911356You want those on summons because you want to put white/pink/blue sigils as your first slots, for mastery trait bonuses.Beserker/Spartan/War Ele are always first slot orange sigils which get no real bonus from mastery and so putting them on summons is key
>>574911356>You get to free up sigil slots on your characters for other things. It gives you better flexibility than being forced to run three orange sigils with substats that you may not even want.>you can have those sigils be gray for damage cap or blue/pink for HP/defense. Orange sigils provide Atk which is basically useless after a certain point, and WE/Echoes must be in the first slot so they will always be orange.
Any danchous with tech? Arts seems cooked for dps somehow compared to substitute build. The fuck huge damage multiplier somehow makes up for only running 2 damage skills.
>>574911356Mostly an issue that having them slotted as sigils means you're stuck with an attack sigil that you can't alter at all. Every War Elemental+/Spartan Echo+/Berserker Echo+ you find will have a Defense, Support, or Special secondary trait, and you can't change them at all. Not a huge deal if you have them with sigil traits you like, but it does limit what you can slot in, especially with the master trait nodes that ask for Basic or Defense/Support sigils for bonuses.So having them as a summon trait means you have more flexibility in what you can slot and synth. Similar case with Stout Heart, which as a sigil is always a Special sigil that can't have secondary traits.
>punch men, women, dragons>816 mil damage in 60sis id the ultimate chud
any rooms?
Does infinity lucilius have better drop rates for the luci summon? I'm getting sick of water elementals and managarmrs.
>>574912079>Multiple guys can reach 600-700+>Only 2 girls can reach above 500M and one has to rely on RNGWhat did Cy mean by this?
>>574911857there was a pretty funny danchou in one of the lobbies here
>>574912079I noticed all these super high damage numbers are from hyper minmaxxed grids with 0 comfort or utility and often with as much cap up and attack as possible, alongside a specific skill rotation that seems extremely cumbersome and inorganic for fights.
>>574911752So its a trade off between damage and support?Assuming you are using a berserk/spartan/we without cap. I have played the game without the need of the def/sup extra health, so i don't see the use of losing damage.>>574911964But flexiblity isn't a big of a deal considering there's a ton of ways we can get what we want no? Like we have stones, the summon themselves and synth, all we need is war elemental, spartan and berserk each with different universal traits and that's all, its way easier to get them now compared to summons with those specific skills.
>>574912419Women belong into the kitchen. Except not cause our cooks are also guys
what secondary traits can roll on a warpath+? Trying fish for a good one but not even sure what 'good' is. Zeta player btw
>>574908097trigger warning for imminent autismhttps://files.catbox.moe/94wqgi.mp4
>>574912821I never played Io this does nothing to me
Be a good person.
>>574912946I will accomplish that by educating Beatrix.
>>574912754Ideally you want an orange or purple sigil as the substat so you don't waste mastery bonuses. Guts, Autorevive, Potion Hoarder and Damage Cap are probably the best overall value out of the stuff that can drop on it.
>>574912754pretty much any pre-ER skill.
>>574913020Please don't kill yourself.
>$60 dlc>Two (2) new enemies
>>574913454I mean reality isn't that much better so why make up bullshit?
>>574913445How hard could it possibly be?
CAN YOU FUCK OFF WITH THE SKILL SEAL LUCILIUSFUCK
>>574912607setup A. gives 50% normal capsetup B. gives 40% all cap or you can reverse the sigil order for health+DEFsetup B is better if you use any skills or the useless shit line isn't completely useless (stun, skill dmg cap, healing cap, SBA damage cap etc. maybe even health)
>>574913445There are multiple ways to educate bea though.Just think about it, you can program her to do different stuff depending on the snacks you give her, worse case scenario she could be like a bad trained dog but that's still something
>>574913627Your skills are sealed, retard
Do you think they'll make a relink 2
is cascade any useful if im NOT actually using charge attacks?
>>574914035Absolutely. I don't think they imagined this would be as successful as it was. There's lots of games like this but very few of them do this well. I think it took them by surprise.
>>574913662But that assumes we cannot already slot in my basic sigils already, so we not technically losing any dmg.also you can get we and the others in transmarvel so the chances of having bad ones is way lower than actually having a good summon.
Pretty good DLC
>>574914035it would be stupid if they wouldn't but then again its cygames, just pray for lightning to strike twice
>>574914279Your post makes no sense.
>>574914279The one assuming here is you
>>574914328kek
>>574914328Bubs destroying the servers is the only way he can win
>>574914035Relink needs to bring back the concept of multiple expansions for a game. I think people would gladly pay another 30 bucks for extra bosses and characters if theyre willing to pay like 200 dollars for all the guilty gear season passes
>>574914512>>574914456You can slot basic sigils though in exchange of less skills, the defense and hp from nodes is a player choice.I don't see how is that hard to understand.
>>574912576Funny enough, as far as traits go I think there's only a 10% difference between real builds with lots of utility/defensive sigils and only 40%-50% DMG cap summons vs meme builds. And that's with the meme builds having 100% x4 summons and getting every bit of extra damage possible.
>>574914328Bubs will pull out every trick in the book to keep you from getting a good summon
>>574914724Your post still makes no sense. You are a little bit too ESL sorry I don't mean to be rude.
>>574914035Given how long it took them to actually make Relink, yeah, sure, in 2057.She will still be my neechang then, btw.
>>574914724>>574914872Actually I think I get what you're saying. If you can already fit 5 stuns on your builds while also having echos+WE and crab and character sigils then you don't need the echos+WE summon but then you're missing out on free DEF+hp which all builds want
i dont understand the timing for quickening parry. it works like 30% of the time but i cant tell if it's early or late
What's Seofon's damage like?
NOOOOOOOOOO
>>574915716777.777.777 parse
>>574915701Same, feels like I'm hitting it but it doesn't work.
>>574915701if the orb hits you then you're too lateif the orb bounces off then you're too earlywait for the sound que then wait half a second before blocking, you have the learn the feel for it
>>574915716DecentIf lebroniel is a 10/10 then smug is a 7/10 and 8 to 8.5 in really good play
>got spartan, war, and stout heart without too much grinding>lucilius refuses to drop his selfies in the chaos++ fight and I'm getting real fucking sick of that on top of people coming in with meme vas builds that die every .2 secondsIt hurts. I can't even bitch about bad rolls for luci summons because of how uncommon they are.
>>574915716Pretty average overall.
>>574915701>i cant tell if it's early or lateyou can't tell if you took damage or blocked it?
You don't NEED WE/echoes on summons, it just makes building easier because you can synth whatever you wantBut if you already have WE and echoes with good sub traits then you can build around those instead
Do any of the infinity bosses drop wee pincer 3?I've seen cats and refs drop from them, but no crabs.
I have not played narmaya a single time in endless ragnarok, I don't think I'm ever catching up......
The only summon you need is stout heart. Go farm your gw boss
>>574901858If I use cpus I guess I just put it on me and they have to live without it huhI didn't get the crabs in the base game, is it total cancer?
>>574916107I want to slot in crab sigil though.
>>574916046i guess that was a retarded way to word it. i just mean that i can't tell how early or late it should be to be consistent. i tried going off the flash, but then it's often too early. if i try to use the actual attack as a sign, it's often too late
>>574912079Why is it always the characters I don't give a fuck about that end up shitting out damage like Id and Percival over characters I actually like (Fraux, Kat, Siete)?
>>574915573Correct. Assuming you're running Character and Warpath sigils, Immortal Shell, the 5 Basic sigils, and the 3 slots for WE+SE+BE, you're left with one slot for a Defense/Support sigil when you could have more for the added defense and HP bonuses. So it's more optimal to have the WE+SE+BE offloaded to summons so you can have Defense/Support sigils with whatever secondary traits you want.
>>574916471And you still can?
>>574916107assuming you don't need character sigils it's impossible to get all 5 bluepink/5 white/echox2/WE/immortal shell, that's 14+ lines for only 12 slots,you want those summons.
>>574916452Its about a 2-3 hour thing if you still need the base game crabs. Actually not too bad since every chapter tells you how many crabs there are, and in the chapters you can always open up the map to see where the crabs are and how many are left in your current area. Still recommend keeping something like the game8 guide up, its less of an issue for the base game crabs but the dark crabs sometimes have non-obvious paths to get to them
>>574916624I can yeah but my grid has lots of comfy utility right now so I want to get berserker echos so I can take that sigil off and slot in crab as the final piece of exodia.
be real with me before i dump resources is ferry genuinely still that bad
>>574915862ill try the sound que. i've been mainly relying on the flash and the animation of the attack and it's just not consistent at all.
>>574916692Oh I guess if you want to minmax the def mastery for the defense/support sigils then sure
>>574916824Yes
>>574916824Are you a metafag? If so, no she doesn't shit out easy gazillions of damage like Fediel, Id or Percival. Do you like her gameplay regardless? Good, play her, get good with her and you will still S++ every mission.
>>574916938assuming you don't use character sigils and have stout heart on a summon it's +12% DEF and 10k HP, 18% DEF and 20k HP with 1 character slotassuming you're running terminus you will need that extra bulk for a lot of breakpoints unless you're a god gamer who never gets hit but if that's the case you're running terra+glass cannon so that's more sigil pressure
>>574916824All the cool kids will make fun of you if you play Ferry
>>574916824no pets build sucks debuff/buff build doesn't existpets build is good damage against stationary bosses but your gameplay is holding Y constantly and hoping nothing moves
>>574916824She clears
Don't look
>3 beas and a eustacehe dcs
>>574917342Maybe other characters need more but I'm doing fine with 170k hp on Zeta with a single greater aegis + stout heart summon
>>574917691I get erect every time she screams.
>>5749176914 bea lobby when
>>574917818There was a random nip stream I saw of 4 Bea's doing Infinity quest and the person playing was just laughing the entire time. Her screams are definitely an aquired taste
>>574917303oh fuck is perci meta now i've been playing him since vanilla and was excited at how strong molten edge zerreissen feels but i didn't realize it was that good>>574917383that's fine i don't play in these lobbies anyway>>574917521i'm not a stranger to holding y as mentioned>>574917532good enough, i guess it's not a big deal since i have stronger characters to fall back on, thanks guys
>>574915573saved me the reply explaining it>then you're missing out on free DEF+hp which all builds wantnot necessarily, it will depend on comfortable are you with your character, the extra def/hp has an invisible cap on each character and in player skill.If you are bad, changing weapons can net you more damage than the flexibility of these summons, if you are good you may not even require the extra hp, there's also some attacks that you cannot tank no matter what, damage will always be useful even when dmg cap is diluted because there's simply no much more damage increase we can slot into our charactersSummons are rare but they are not even remotely close as important as the "rare" drops on base relink because we have received a lot of QoL that allow us to be very flexible with our builds.>>574916562Is not more optimal to slot them no matter what, you end up with the same amount of traits with both options, the only difference is the bonus from master traits, which lets the player to decide between damage and the extra hp and defense.
>>574916938The 6% defense from the mastery is straight up +6% damage reduction each, getting 5 for +30% reduction is pretty huge
Broke into Infinity, I'm 0-2 vs. the World. I think this Quickening parry is going to filter me for a while.Copied a speedrunner's AI team and running Percival now, he's pretty good, but I think his Siegfried skills are worse than my old ones. Taking away Improved Dodge was a big mistake, the squad was taking a beating without it so I put it back on.That's all from the scene.
Fraux feels pretty shit to play outside skill spam, well just Dead Lands really.
>>574918778It's really worth it to take the big ass ball if the boss moves around too much to get off a full deadlands.
>>574918778I find her fun personally.
Grand Refinium I... doko...
>>574918221>there's also some attacks that you cannot tank no matter whatonly the purple death DPS check at the endI have builds that can tank beeb's laser, all of luci's arena sweep moves+paradise lost and can even stand in those big sphere domes the world summons, all while doing 300m on training dummy (accurate because with that much survivability you have constant DPS uptime)
>>574918692once you get the parry down the fight becomes so damn fun man
>>574918778>Like Naru>Best spec is the 6 butterflies required to use skill spec that feels like ass to play>Fraux seems cool, maybe I try her>Best spec is the buff one skill massively spec that makes feels like ass to playWhy do they do this
>>574918692Quickening parry is worth learning. World is the best fight in the game, and the dopamine you get from it is a big reason why.I only wish that character-specific parry and counter skills worked on it.
>>574918692Mirror image helps a lot
>>574918221how is it deciding between damage and extra hp/defense bro you realize the red sigils trait is atk which is completely useless because everyone caps everything except sba, you're not getting more damage from having red sigilsfree hp and defense from pink/blue sigils is objectively superior because it actually does something unless you're the godliest gamer to ever play relink
>>574916107You dont need it as you didnt need WE+ in the basegame
>>574915080it only took so long because they had to restart dev after platinum fucking them over
>>574912504Was she substitute build or arts?
>>574916824I've heard sba spam ferry is back, and i definitely played with one who was getting 2 sbas by the time the rest of us were ready for chain
>>574919608>top damagei think you know anon
Is there a good parser yet? I think i'm ready to be depressed
>>574918221you can tank every single attack in the game including failing luci's labors. the only thing you can't tank are the ones that just autofail the quest
I feel like I'm playing Fraux terribly wrong. With Charlotta, Bea and Narm, Zeta I can easily hit 400M on dummy not full optimized but I barely get into the 200M with Fraux because her punches and kicks feel so slow to build up gauge.
>>574919238>How is it deciding between damage and extra hp/defense bro because its much easier to get a summon with a good skill + high cap than is to get we+be+se with cap at all. Not saying you shouldn't use one if you have them but when you are using we+be+se without cap, you are choosing survival over damage.
40 something honors as bea in bubz and a rosetta is doing 60 something
>>574917621GIWTWM
>>574918778play insight and run blessing so you can spam more skills
>>574920362You get some more gauge by doing delayed flip combos. Some of her middle combos give more gauge than you think too so you often don't need to do the full combo.
>>574918778>>574920571Yeah insight is generally better. Sounds like you're using crux which makes her deal less damage overall unless you're a perfect team that spams SBA and Link Times.
>>574919216>I only wish that character-specific parry and counter skills worked on it.I thought they did?
Ok, throw me some numbers
>>574921062
>>574921029Of course not, just like they don't work for sigils
>>574921382I really like the 300% crit
>>574921282Well that sucks, I thought I would try it out with sieg's counter
>>574921382I have a feeling some of those numbers aren't a bit unneeded or fake.
>>574921382what the fuck?
>stun+ sigils are from the shitty crab questAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>574921382>Second Alpha isn't even 15
>>574921578it makes sense, parrying with character skills is way easier
>>574921907You can just use a (Anything) x Stun sigil, it works the same.
>substitute makes you take the attack>including any effects>including knockback>just got kicked out of the arena because the sumo crab way pummeling the AI on the other end of the ringActually took me a moment to comprehend what's happening. Man this must suck in bubs
>>574922686>>including knockbackIt must only be mechanical knockbacks cause people getting hit by the snares don't punt you
>>574916824Against bosses that mainly stay in one spot like hexa and somewhat infi faa? Then yes she is goodAgainst bosses that just moves everywhere or that one song/io/eustace isn't using low profile? You aren't sandalflop levels of griefing bad but you are likely the lowest dps in the roomOne notable thing about her is she is the comfiest steady focus abuser so you can tank and spank almost everything in the gamehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1DvOT1SOOTLT0_A4RKNCFp7VERtCfILYHgTk-69Wygv8/edit?usp=drivesdk
>>574909795>Vaseraga>Eustace>IoStill kind of bad at Io but sometimes I snatch mvp if I have godluck on her warpath.I want to maybe learn someone new but I'm not sure who yet.
I wish Song's charged normals would automatically release.
I wish Song wasn't a lesbian
>>574920000There are two on Nexusmods and both work well
>>574924427she's not real anon, just rp as a girl
I wish Maglielle's XXXY cursor didnt force her to do a 180 half the time
>>574924427A body like hers won't remain a lesbian for long.
>go to download the DPS monitor mod on Nexus>Remember they're faggots and have annoying restrictions on downloads and passwords>Finally remember my sign in info. Then sign in>Download mod but check the comments.>Tons of complaints saying it crashes the game unless you go edit some shit in the back endYea I think I'll just pass. I merely wanted to check how awful Sandel is compared to my AIs but whatever.
>>574925231use the other one
So how the fuck do I actually get good sigils? Do I just synth and savescum or am I missing smth that won't make this a retarded grind
Can you iframe substitute damage?
>>574925410If you don't have a lot of sigils yet then yeah synth and savescum if you don't want to spend a lot of time just farming for fodder
>beelzebub gets to 15% and does los endos>randomly teleports to the other side of the arena>starts doing his massive knockback attack that you have to be out of the glowing/flashing red to not get blasted off the stage>the safe zone is a microscopic sliver on the opposite size the side of the room he just teleported toHow the FUCK do you dodge this? It kills my deathless runs every time
my uma pulls went bad bros
>>574926184I warned you about horses bro, i TOLD you dog
I think I just don't get Maglielle. She feels like she could be really good, but I don't get the point of things like aiming her attacks, or which base combo is the best one to use. I was expecting another character kind of like Cagliostro, but she just feels so different that I get confused.
>>574926119there's a few ways>you know which sided are safe at all times because the handrails aren't down>you can get pushed into the poles in the corner if you position right instead of flying off>you can use an approach skill during the knockback to mitigate it
>>574926184I got the new retarded baby in less than a hundred.Easy life.
>>574924427She's actually bi.
>playing with a friend, we're at chaos ++ ennugi>hes been busy for 2 days>spend my time farming alt charactersdo I setup Ferry, Rackam or someone else today
>>574926671>Those character choices.Are you a woman? Maybe try a character where you have to play the game.
>>574926671I found ferry fun in the base game. The intended one, not the jump faggotry
>>574926359>I don't get the point of things like aiming her attacks, or which base combo is the best one to use.You always want to aim her attacks by holding Y and dragging the cursor to or around the enemy for a while. The attacks turn pink and do more damage while gaining a tracking property if its been held long enough on the target>XY is the easiest to use and does good damage for how fast it is to throw out. You hardly need to hold it at all and the cursor is very responsive. Ideally used at close range as it also puts some distance between Maggie and the enemy when used>XXY has the largest AoE but the cursor is slow as ass and not worth using>XXXY is the strongest one and ideally the one you'd want to spam most. Problem is the cursor on it is incredibly erratic and you can lose a ton of time trying to get it to do what you want. Best used at midrange as the cursor is more likely to start on the enemy or close to them already.
>>574926119Each Hail to the king break several fencesBy the end theres only two available and they protect you from the pushHe only does the push after the purple shield explosionso, once he ends with the shield, look around for a fence cause he is going to do push
Bros as soon as I get my stout heart summon with a good trait my build will be complete and I will have nothing more to do...
>>574927584Nothing to worry about then
>>574927526Thanks. I'll try her out again, but I'll probably just stick with Bea because she's fun to play and also very very cute.
>>574927337What's a real man's character?
farming evil blackwyrm makes me wanna blow my brains out bros
>>574927876how many spartans?
>>574927926ZERO
>>574927337My main characters I'm usually playing are Fraux, Maglielle, Id, and the CaptainBefore ER on other save files I played Eugen and Io up through Lucilius. Are any of these better?
>>574928169NTA but anyone who plays Maggie can't be a bad person
>>574925347I think the dude just shot the other one as I was about to download it
>>574927584You already have summons with 100% normal cap? damn
So does weapon attack just skyrocket between level 75 and 100?
>>574928372https://github.com/nabeechowa/gbfr-dps-meterseems like the github is still up
>>574928418Only 50% but I ain't farming for 0.01% drops
>>574928697Then you have something to do, you liar...
>>574927876what are you farming them for?Is it for sigils? Can't they drop on transmarvel?
>>574928964he wants to get a spartan echo summon in his build before reaching bubz
Lobby doko?
>>574929174Why tho, you can adjust your gear to compensate
>>574928237speaking of magliella, her story is dogshit. I honestly think she would have been better as an unironically ebil cult leader of the sword veil but instead she's just another "GENERIC™ MISUNDERSTOOD VILLAIN #3917-A" who is prejudiced and villified by the common folk but are fundamentally good. This is eye-rollingly cringe but she's a cute potato so I still like her.
Bubs farming here (or anything else)5RC1 A7UX 7EUE XAV4PW: sphere
>>574929893I havent seen her fate episodes but in the base game she says she joined Lilith as a way to support her people and Gallanza would eventually turn on her just to fight her.
>>574929893I like the revelation that she was super poor and couldn't even afford a slice of bread despite being an elegant ojousama and having a massive collection of weapons.They had to bend over backwards to justify having her playable and make her a good person actually, because I find it impossible to believe that she went along with Lilith's schemes and didn't think for a second that she was up to no good.Playable Maglielle talks a lot about heroes and smiting evil ajd whatnot which makes it even more jarring that she worked for a woman who wanted to nuke the entire skydom.
>>574930445did you forget about sandalphon? rule of popularity bro
>>574929893I liked her backstory, the fact that she's so poor she cant feed her family despite all of her abilities, the fact its juxtaposed against her personality being so lavish is pretty fun I think. I do agree >>574930445It feels completely crazy that she was willing to go along with Lilith as long as she did, I could maybe see up to kidnapping Lyria but past that just feels out of character
>>5749302983/4
>>574927851Io
>>574929893>cringeI like her sword autism though?
>>574930652Her story mode dialogue that they added to her helps a tiny bit in fleshing her out. If you have playable Maglielle fight Id in any of his story mode fights she will express concern and confusion for why he's behaving this way and what is Lilith commanding him to do. Her big sister instincts are strong when it comes to Id.Unfortunately this dialogue is non-canon since Maglielle is an antagonist for most of the story, but it's cool that it's there.
>>5749302984/4
>>574929893Her backstory would have been improved if it was about how much she lusts for human cock but was to shy to ever ask for it so she became bitter and evil.
>>574931797Maggie is swordsexual, just like her BFF Siete
>Siete>friends
Siete, Octo and Sarasa are the only actually likeable Eternals. I would be friends with Siete.
>>574929439I CANNOT
Getting REAL tired of Infinity Bubz dropping Celestial Lumen and Drain garbage (49 runs now). Getting tired of this fight in general. There's only so much orb spam and screen clutter I can handle before I start to lose my patience.
After trying petless Ferry for a few Infinity quests, I find the damage isn't as bad as I thought. You can actually maintain permanent 9 stacks by cycling through your pet skills along with CD reduction passives and the DPS is about the same as mid-tier characters if not slightly better. Also it's fun to manage the 12 second timer since each of Ferry's skills, as well as link attacks and SBA dismiss the summons at different speeds, so you have to decide if you have enough time to let them expire naturally or force a dismissal with Onslaught before you drop your stacks.The only problem is you are ten times more squishy than summoner Ferry due to the way defense reduces damage.
>>574932754At least youre not getting Improved Guard constantly like me.I feel like he's taunting me after forcing me to eat so many red orbs at damn near point blank range.
>>574932689Explain, it ain't that hard once you know how synth and use whatever weapon stone have good skills.
I LOVE THE WORLD!
>all of the high damage characters besides fediel are malelol
>>574933126>Mag, Zeta, Rosetta and Box>male
>>574933126/ourdirector/ can't help himself.
>>574933283isn't estalucia where (you) want to go in the first place?
>>574933126What the fuck did you expect in a game that has good male-female ratio, and ACTUAL good variety on males too, not just twinks.
>>574933343They reached Estalucia in the gacha and its a shithole.
>>574933343>he doesn't knowThey reached Estalucia in the gacha last year, and let's just say it wasn't nearly as grand as they were hyping it up to be(Rushed story finale and all that)
What the hell just happened here? Must have been too much damage.
How do I make Eustace stop afking in the ooze quest
>>574933250Only semi-competitive character here to perci, id, eustace, vase and even ghanda is fucking box
Show me your best parser
if I didnt get an echo from the wyrms and im already post chaos++ do I just suffer and grind up my NPCs to fight bubz instead
>>574933447It's funny considering for the majority of vanilla life female characters were top tier
Seems like Siete's CPU is pretty good after those changes to him, he's in avatar mode all the time
Reminder that most of the optimal Sir Barrold 60 second damage tests require doing really stupid or impractical shit that would never fly in a real fight (like the Siete UBW build spamming dodge rolls and hugging the corner for 30 seconds straight)
>>574934772ok but explain thishttps://youtu.be/-6Y_QOetXpk?si=UYNJbevs4QicrAH_
>>574933343It is supposed to be the afterlife in GBF universe but the otherworlders made it nonfunctional. In the gacha we fixed it and hit the big reset button.
>>574934827I have nothing, Percy is just bullshit
>>574933250>Mag, Zetai need proof
>>574934827>most of the optimal Sir Barrold 60 second damage testsAlso in this case its a 1.0 bug rearing it's ugly head again. Unironically nothing new lol.
for sliming does eustace need to have the path of mastery 60 or it can be one of my bots?
>>574934772the Id punching one, the percival roter bug abuse one, and the fediel ones ofc are all pretty practical. I think the latter 2 of those 3 even benefit from fights rather than being held back by them, like fediel raping big enemies and percival getting 9 stacks way faster by parry slopping. The Id punching one gets extra DMG cap when he parries successfully too but it loses more with downtime a lot more than the other two
>>574934827don't trust that account, their Io setup has hacked skills
>>574934772Most of the strong characters are still doing giga damage on dummy and real bosses ie. Fediel, Percy, Id, Vase
>>574929893She's not misunderstood though, she outright says why she's doing it in the open and doesn't make any excuses either. She's on Lilith's side because she believed the promises.
>>574935446qrd?
Which cpus have the best AI? Feels like some of them just don't even understand how to use their skill
>>574935716Cog and Mr. Pigfried
>>574935716I don't have the numbers to back it up, but it feels like Fraux's is pretty good, always seems glued to the boss constantly spamming skills and basic attacks.
>>574934946the sheer scale, scope, and convoluted insanity is what makes me wanna know more about the lore... maybe even play the gacha for the story but then i am fully aware that all the wonder and fun goes out then window when you stop hearing about it indirectly like some kind of legendary lore and experience the shitty details firsthand what a conundrum, i'd watch some lore videos but they are fucking LONG
>>574935851i use a parser and fraux does pretty good, usually matching ai percival. sometimes she jobs hard though and i don't know why
I want Fediel to fart on my tongue.
>>574935716For the player afking with full auto it's eustace For everyone else it's>percival for huge damage>gallanza for big damage but just okay stun>siegfried for stun and okay damage, but brings buffs if you're playing manually>seofon/fraux good all-rounders>io for certain fights that she doesnt get cucked by, and where her fast SBA generation can shineAI eustace with shotgun build is okay too, but i think he's not as good as the otherse.player AFK full auto rackam and AI rackam show potential too
>>574935957fraux can be gacha sometimes because her AI will just randomly use whatever skills it wants when her gauge is max. You can circumvent this on Insight by investing into the ATK +10% skill nodes for power plant/opportunity knocks/deadlands to make it prioritize those more. For crux just ATK +10% on deadlands
What's a good DPS number to reach for Infinity Bubz? Feels like all his stalling seriously tanks the numbers.
>>574935716eustace, sieg and percival is the most broken ai team, but theyre all men
>You can perfect dodge or perfect block everything in the game in the middle of any animationthats a crazy thing to give the player, and hard to appreciate in a 4 man setting
>>5749361617
>>574936161It depends a lot, but in a mediocre pug 2.5mil+ is very good, 3mil+ for a top tier. You can probably do 3.5mil+ if you have a full group of gamers killing it fast, as the faster you kill it the better, especially if the SBA timing is good.
>>574936284it's a refreshing change of pace to have strong universal player mechanics rather than feeling hamstrung by them desu
How do I get consistent with parrying Quickening? I got it for the first time, third time fighting The World, but it seems like it's actually based around a projectile he shoots out. Since it can widely vary where he is when he fires it at you and it's also difficult to tell whether or not he's targeting you, how in the world (lol) am I supposed to get good at this? It's very hard to practice.
Is Cog still supposed to have super fast SBA gain now that half the endgame bosses are smaller humanoids? I'm still way ahead of the rest of the team against Baha/Hexa but seems pretty average or even on the slower side against the others, especially when stopping for 1-2 sec to reapply buffs/debuffs while everyone else is just unga bunga facetanking World/Bubs etc
>>574936895you wait for him to start it and then wait for the shine effect and the timing goes "shwing" "Shwoon!"
This is your threadly reminder to STOP SOLO SBAINGITS BADSTOP DOING IT
>Io's warpath got buffed to have a high chance of giving focused if you do a level 3 charge, adding another layer of gambling to her gambling>It's completely unlisted why the hell
>>574936895You can parry quickening as long as you're in the red; AOEs does not matter which one. You want to use the visual and sound queue for the parry; it's basically a half second after the flash.
>>574937130So it's more about the sound effect than the visual shine?
>>574930298ggs
>>574937313Anyone get anything good
>>574937135I'll have it back in time don't worry.>>574936219I wonder if tweyen io maggy and zeta would be a decent team..
da fuck was going on here lmao
>>574937178What's a lv3 charge? Stargaze IV?
>>574936932yeah you just spam rocks and it'll just werks. both rock builds generate a lot of sba
>>574937545bubs is crashing out from all the bullying
>>574937562Stargaze 3. on the UI it would be the blue one with 2 bars filled
>>574937471IT MAKES THE BOSS BLOODTHIRST WHEN YOU SBA WITHOUT A FULL CHAINSTOP DOING IT
>>574937682Whose ass is that?
>>574937649I'll try it out in practice later, spamming Stargaze 2s didn't seem to do anything.
>>574937373still a spot? i'm not very good at bubs but I need to get my summons
>>574937727Green cant proc focused, but blue, yellow and pink can all proc focused.I think its made to make Magic chain not suck ass
>>574937682it's a nothing burger bro. bubs doesn't do it, Lucy doesn't do it, hexa let's you hit it more, the world just does a circle aoe
>>574937717Do NOT open
>>574937853Whew, I almost fapped to that, thanks for the quick reply
>>574935319Eustace for actually killing bosses
>sign up for quick quest>slimes
>>574938437Same, maybe we were in the same one lolI noped out
>>574938474I was playing Zeta and just let the full assist play it
>>574928638this one's weird. It keeps leaving out the 4th member of the lobby
might go back and do a solo-only run, I've been categorically lied to and I think there are no dps checks you can't prepare for outside of infinity, and in that case the only issue seems to be time, unfortunately.
>>574936284>>574936679why the fuck does a 4 player co-op slop game have better universal mechanics than fucking elden ring
Can AI effectively AFK Bubz? Getting tired of fighting Infinity.
>doing that 4 enemies quest after you fight bahamut/bubs/luci chaos++>forget that the black dragon at the end has a game over attack at the end and I blow my sba early>I jobbed to an enemy I've fought like 10 times or some shitWhat the fuckAm I retarded?
I hope Fediel doesn't get completely gutted by nerfs
>>574940191stop playing. you're too weak for grind games
>>574940318The nerfs will come when everyone has already stopped playing.
>the game can be running at 60 to 120 FPS but primal bursts attacks are just 30 FPS pre-recorded videos so they look jarring as fuck when they happennani
>>574940583the game runs well enough most of the time that you forget this is a japanese developer and that cutscenes in folca shit the bed because every asset is being rerendered
>>574940583I have no idea why they added these anyway, they just take up more time. Also, is it Bahamut->giant robot->blue bahamut for everyone else? Can you change it at all?
My afk slime is finally ready. Chaos ++ afk soon tm
>>574940853nope, its meant to be a levelup system, though most of the fights dont last long enough to reach ultibaha
>>574940583It's amazing how the cutscenes are still in the game and have never changed or an option to disable them. Even worse if you dare play a perfect input character.
>>574874825Which summon drops natural defenses bro?
>>574940583The audio is also incredibly desynced a lot of the time.
>>574941209Pretty sure its the Wind Wyrms 8% trait
My wife isn't retarded ok?
>>5749302983/4, up for anything
How does stout heart+steel nerves interact with damage cut? If its additive and i can get 90% cut on gran that seems worth dropping phalanx for utility or damage
>>574943140Should be multiplicative, damage cut is its own bucket and can stack additively with stuff like crabvestment returns.
>>574942873What's important is that she's cute.
>>574943140I don't know the damage formula, but we have to conclude that they're calculated separately one after the other, otherwise they would result in 100% damage negation. With that in mind if you have 90% damage cut, and the various defense bonuses that come on basically any build, we can assume it would look something like this:100,000 dmg attack vs 90% DMG Cut is 10,000 dmg, and then 90 percent defense on top of that is 1,000 dmg dealt.
>>574940959Weird since it seems to be ripe for letting you pick between bosses kinda like summons but I suppose that's a lot of effort to make cutscenes for a bunch of different ones
>>574943140assume def -> dmg reduction -> cut -> shields
>can't use photo modo during SBA animationsFUCK
>>574943889fediel sisters..
>>574944048Actually, I wanted to take a screenie of Bea, I like her SBA move
we got unironically za warudo'd...
>>574930298za warudo broke the lobby kek0BTF 80KN NU70 DF3Mpass: bubs
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