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Previous Fuchsia: >>574949845

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
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-Fanart Archives
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-Recommendbin
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-Writebins
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>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
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-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

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-Pippins Wiki
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>HE SHOWERS OUR SOULS WITH INCREDIBLE DEALS
>AND WITH HEARTY PEEPIS, OUR HEART HE SO STEALS
>NO FOOL WOULD BE GREATER
>THAN HE WHO DENIES
>THAT SPAMTON GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO EARN WILD PRIZE
>NOT A POSSESSED CATGIRL DOLL, WHO'S MORE CRINGE THAN FUNNY
>A LOVEABLE SALESMAN, WHO GIVE ME FREE MONEY
>YOU MAY ASK, "HOW MUCH LONGER?"
>YOU MAY ASK, "WHERE WILL WE GET OUR FIX?"
>"WHO WILL BE SECRET BOSS OF ADVENTURE NO. 6?"
>ME DONT KNOWS. AND ME DONT CARES!
>ME ONLY CARES ABOUT SPAMTON
>THE REST CAN GO UP IN THE AIRS!!

Please pay $4.99 to continue the poem.
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It’s me! Flowery!
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Anchor
your own stuff
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Is Ralsei a lightner chaser?
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>>574973470
Fresh outta cash.
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>>574973686
we have no idea what Ralsei is but we do know he exclusively fucks lightner men
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>>574973589
You think one day Toby might set him free?
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>>574973756
because Toby didnt design the guy he cant use him
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The curse of Community Decay is upon us, brothers.
>wtf is community decay
No community lasts forever. This decay happens based on human nature. Humans crave novelty, and doing the same thing over and over again becomes boring. Habituation and Hedonic Adaptation are the names of it. The brain decreases its neural response to repeated stimuli. In this case, Deltarune. It happens to every game, community and fandom. The usual range is 5-10 years before the decay sets in. And then it becomes toxic. It always become toxic. Toxic how, you may ask? Weird people. We’re already weird, but I mean, really, really weird people; blatantly autistic and brain damaged people. The autistic has partial immunity to habituation. It’s why they hate change. Change is exciting and new to a normal person, but to the arm waving vegetable, it’s stressful. The only others people are those who aren’t retarded, are the nostalgic, who typically were involved during childhood. Many of us have already left since 9 years ago when deltarune first hit the internet. A few of us may dip back every new chapter but the damage is setting in. Toby, you aren’t taking too long. You already took too long. By +2030, your dream will be hated and associated with the mentally ill. May god have mercy upon your ignorance.
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>>574973425
Hooman!
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Chips ahoy, landfaggots!
Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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Swollen pink doe lips
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>>574973974
Whoopsie we already got one >>574973589
Anyway, sketchy Noel!
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>>574973686
I love this sprite. So bashful and horny.
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None of Deltarune is real, there's just a gas leak under the town
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>>574973686
human (men)
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5 > 2 > 4 >3 >1
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I feel like when this is all over, on replays, Chapter 5 will feel really out of place. Just the entire thing is an OC dropping in out of nowhere to criticize/attempt to change the plot for the entire chapter. It really does feel like the story is frozen to do its own mary sue fanfic and I don't think it's as clever as the fanbase thinks dunno.
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What are the implications of castle town's fountain being made of pure darkness? Is Ralsei made of pure darkness, is that why he is a prince from the dark? What does that mean, and who is the king?
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>>574973894
This is nothing. People have been saying this about the Sonic fanbase for 35 years now.
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>>574974330
>serving humans specifically
>not monsters
What the fuck could Ralsei be
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If you don't like chapter 3 or 5 you will not survive the winter
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>>574973894
this exact post happens after every single chapter release
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>>574974668
"Will Deltarune become the new sonic fanbase of out time? Let's prove it with eggs and FRIEND"
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Missing Asgore so badly while staying up into the night chipping away at extra reports a coworker suddenly quitting dumped me with after having promised I'd join him in bed soon only to find my business much more difficult than expected, but just as the longing to be in his embrace rather than here alone reaches its devastating peak I suddenly hear his paws softly approach our office doorway as he pokes his sleepy head in to offer some tea even despite my feeble insistence he should stay in bed (as he set the tray holding the kettle and two cups down while pulling over a chair to stay with me I felt such overwhelming gratefulness that I had to drag him into a hug so he wouldn't have to see me rapidly blinking away the prickle of tears). Valiantly holding an umbrella over Asgore's horns to keep him safe from the rain in hopes of protecting him from getting chilled by the icy water seeping into his fur, until eventually we arrive back at the house where he fulfills his promise of repaying the favor by manually drying me with a towel until he seems to give up on conventional dehydration methods as he casts the cloth aside and gently presses me against the bathroom wall with his body to let his toasty warmth dry me gradually (he took advantage of the convenient position to lay a few slow kisses along my neck and cheek... almost making me wonder if that was his plan in letting me protect him from the rain in the first place). Persisting that Asgore's muscles do indeed need to be massaged after a workout as we always do no matter how light it was until he finally relents with a knowing chuckle, but this time I surprise him with several tension-relieving techniques I researched online all week as I knead his major muscle groups so effectively that he actually takes my wrists to stop me as it's having an... unexpected side effect and we have too many errands to run for that kind of distraction at the moment (needless to say I abused my newfound abilities to great success)
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fart
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>>574974850
SNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>574974746
Both Chapters should have been LONGER!
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>>574974746
If you don't like chapter 5 you already survived the winter. That was the last silly goofy chapter. Toby promised.
He promised.
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>>574974610
I'm the king when I marry him
>>574974729
the ideal wife(male)
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I really hope toby has played half life because the gaster reveal seriously needs to be like gman
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>>574974796
Holy fucking run-on
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>>574974172
Doesn't matter, because even when we have an option, Susie will just heal the enemy to make it right
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>>574975002
that romhack made me feel like shit
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>>574974610
It means Ralsei is full of black goop. If you slash his belly a trail of gooey dark goop will pour out of it and it tastes like slightly burnt caramel.
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Do you think boss monsters consider themself the master race of monsterkind?
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>>574974984
With gman (gaster) sightings, right? It's a bit too late for that innit? Would have been kino actually. Gman sightings were a big part of his aura. All we're getting is POTENTIAL MAN TM every chapter.
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>>574974789
Maybe when deltarune gets a movie, cartoon and comic that are all wildly different
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>>574975154
no, but other monsters do
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>>574975091
You are not OWED choice, chud. Your allies? They want to make their own choices. Your character? They want to make their own choices. It's time to take up to task the harmful culture of letting the player interact with an interactive narrative.
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>potential man
>mystery box
>gagshit
>filler
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>>574975136
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>>574975004
You would think with how much he does that shit he would have gotten decent at writing eventually but nope
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>potential meal
>mystery box of fries
>tvslop
>fill (my tummy)
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>>574975286
Still cute
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>>574975154
cringe image
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>>574975235
I now get why the most new fans only play this game on youtube
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I hate Ralsei
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>onion-san
>asgore wanting the body
Toby forgot his own lore of dusting. We ain't getting Noelle next chapter on normal route. Nearly every chapter end is a teaser for something that never happens. It's so over.
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>>574975432
bait
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>PapyrusFaggot69, in the SOUL, or rather in the vessel, I took the liberty of relieving you of your equipment, most of it WAS Hometown property. As for the vessel I think you've earned it. The Dark World is in our control, thanks to you. Quite a nasty piece of work you did there, I am impressed.
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>>574975456
>toby forgot
Or, more plausibly, you are misinterpreting
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scratching my psoriasis patch and watching the flakes fall down onto the carpet like snow
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>>574975623
>it snewed
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I love Ralsei
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>>574975456
I do think Noelle joining the party in Chapter 6 will be another fakeout
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>>574975623
SKINFLAKES FELL FROM THE TOP OF THE SKY
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Reminded that female reindeer, dess and carol, are cows not does.
dess and carol literally have cow tits
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What do you call a cat with one arm?
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>>574975675
>Kris, I saw it in your heart, you always yearned for Noelle to return
>whenever you got a new item, you tried to imagine how Noelle would react to it
>but she will never fight alongside you again
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>>574974729
The demon that Kris summoned
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>>574975836
I don’t know… haha… I don’t know!
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>>574975836
a friend
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>>574975990
Don't you wanna just kiss him?
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why is noelle's new title mistletoe I'm scared
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If I was Kris I would embrace and hold Ralsei after every fight, sliding my arms under his robe to caress his soft, fluffy fur while nuzzling the sides of our heads together. I would hold his hands often, smile at him reassuringly and even encourage Susie to hug him too if she feels weird watching us.
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>>574975758
I hope you mean big tits and not cow udders
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>>574975990
I WANT TO SHOVE MY PENIS IN HIS MOTUH
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>>574973589
(picrel is not my art)
>"Kris..."
>"Thanks for walking me home."
>Kris slowly shuffled out the school door.
>The soul had gone quiet. Kris hoped it was for the rest of the night.
>The walk home was peaceful.
>Hometown was so quiet at night, a stark contrast from the life the festival brought to its streets.
>A sob cut through the silence.
>Kris spotted the source of the sound, a large cloaked figure sitting on the curb.
>Still in her costume and with her head buried in her hands, sat Catti.
>Another ugly sob escaped her, and her whole frame lurched.
>Catti slowly raised her head. Her wet eyes met with Kris's, and they briefly went wide in shock.
>Embarrassment quickly overcame surprise and with red face Catti turned away from Kris.
>"For how long. Have you stood there?"
>"...Come to torment me. In my despair, Kris?"
>Kris stepped towards Catti. Now standing over her, Kris looked down upon the monster.
>For perhaps the first time ever, Catti seemed... small.
>A ball of fur and tears wrapped in a blanket.
>In one motion Kris sat beside Catti on the curb, and placed a tender hand on her back.
>Even through the fabric Kris could feel Catti's hairs stood on end.
>A moment passed and the tension relaxed.
>Catti's defensive posture melted, and she accepted the comfort of her estranged friend.
>The two sat in silence for a few moments, broken only by the occasional weak sob from Catti.
>Having regained her composure, Catti spoke.
>"Her father... Noelle. She has it far worse. Than I."
>"Yet here I sit. Feeling sorry. For myself."
>"..."
>"My family. Saw my tears. Thought I shed them. For her."
>"I could not accept their comfort. They think I am better. Than I truly am."
>"I grieve. With a selfish heart."
>Catti finally looked up at Kris, tears spent with a weak smile.
>"Pathetic. Am I not?"
>Kris, never good with words, leaned into Catti, and mumbled
>"...Yeah. But that's okay."
>Catti gave a single chuckle before leaning into Kris, too.
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>>574976074
Yeah, maybe even hurt him a little, too :)
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If you loved Kris, you wouldn’t misgender them. Just saying.
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>>574973589
Reposting the Domino darkner since last night's thread was pretty fast. Designed it because I realised we haven't seen one, and I imagine it'd fit in somewhere like Card Kingdom in Chapter 1.
(Funny thing is last minute I realised the lower lines on the body could be a second mouth, and you can probably see that in how I drew them.)
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>>574976202
>the shot slams the ball through the building, and into a babies face, exploding their head into a bajillion pieces. susie is arrested and locked up in prison for life
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>>574976345
i don't love them
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>>574976159
I'm sure he'll like it
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I love goats Kris, I LOVE GOOOOATS!
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>>574976345
>if you eat animals you hate em type ahh
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>>574976345
Kris is MY little toy! And Kris will have the gender that I assign to him/her/they/it depending on my mood!
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>>574976468
this is true but people don't want to think about that
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>>574976468
Well, you certainly don’t love them.
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>>574976345
kris's nonbinary vagina and nonbinary womb and nonbinary ovaries and nonbinary periods
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>>574975836
I can't get the phrase "bmewtiful lights" out of my head fuck this cat I'm glad he's only got one arm
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>>574975675
>Chapter 6
>”Alright Kris, let’s go get Noelle”
>Carol is keeping home’s gate locked
>No Noelle
>Meanwhile, the knight turned the ice-e place into Not-Snowden
>Beat Not-Snowden
>Find Noelle in Not-Snowden
>The knight reactions strangely to her
>I dunno, maybe they both just fucking dab at each other and it flees
>Noelle joins the party but from outside of the dark world
>”Alright Kris, let’s finally go to that shelter”
>Chapter 7
>No shelter
>Noelle flees for some stupid reason
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im kinda disappointed theres zero interactions for keeping the loaded disc item with you outside chapter 2
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>>574973425
When she's brought to castle town Noelle's trust of both Kris and Susie Is going to be completely destroyed considering she was told the dark world was just a dream. If Rudy Is actually dying she's going to have a breakdown at the fact she could have tried to heal him sooner. Even worse Imagine how Noelle will react on an aborted weird route where she killed Berdly...
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>>574976696
WILL happen

>>574976882
fanfiction delusion
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>>574976383
I love HIM
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>>574976615
susie going "so if you're nonbinary does that mean you don't get periods anymore???"and she does the face
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>>574976882
Kris
Remember
Dess
Pedophile Groom
You
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>>574976840
Spamton is ironically more trapped in the disc than if you finished his quest and got him as an item. People thought the disc was the cheatcode to carrying Spamton around and instead they bricked their save for no reason
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>>574976943
>fanfiction delusion
Only because Toby hates Noellefags and wishes we would all kill ourselves, his only goal Is to make us suffer and refuse to make Noelle a party member
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>>574977189
That horrible day....oouuugh....
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>>574976696
The sanest prediction of chapter 6 in the whole fanbase.
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>>574977082
pull down those pants
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I'm going crazy
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>>574975301
They work off the assumption nobody will read it anyway and just smears slop down to post every day without trying. Don't criticize them though they are le wholesome and they love their fave so much and that makes it okay!
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why did she do it?
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>>574977652
Why are they both wearing the same pants?
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>>574977727
She has her friend inside him
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>>574977727
You can only see Kris' pants, anon.
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>>574976882
...Yeah, we ain't getting no Noelle next chapter. This post sold me on it. Too many facts and realizations on Noelle's part for Toby to do it.
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How come you can't multiclass in Deltarune? Are Kris, Susie and Ralsei stupid?
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Where did all my yuteegee fwends go...
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>>574978271
What do you think Susie healing is supposed to be? Susie and Ralsei ACTing when that was supposed to be Kris' niche? Ralsei pretends to be a healer, but he's actually fire-element DPS. Pay more attention anon
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>the year is 2038
>Deltarune chapter 7, part 2, side C just got released
>we still havent been inside the shelter nor do we know who the knight is.
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>>574978298
im at work sorry
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>>574978396
Why do you need to know
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>>574974921
I think both chapters are about as long as they should be imo. I love the tenna boards but if the cut content is anything to go by there was never going to be a real "third board" anyway
>>574974934
>If you don't like chapter 5 you already survived the winter
The happy moments are the spring and summer, winter is coming. If you can't handle Deltarune at its fun and silly you're going to crack under the serious shit
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>>574978298
ate em
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>>574978396
>2040
>Game is finished
>We STILL don't know who the knight is
All your theories are wrong - Toby
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>>574978298
They're all whores
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>>574978071
I have a tricky artist fatigue.
I will just play some kenshi to calm me down
I can't believe Toby wants to make a character driven story but always minimizes character interaction opportunities.
Since there was no weird route dark world in chapter 5, noelle should have been in flower king dark world.
Weird route ruined noelle and berdlys characters for a repeat of genocide route lesson.
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Why don't the people from /doe/ and /sus/ return here?
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>>574977579
Kiddo... you're taking random stuff online nobody cares about too serious again...
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>>574978903
They don’t care about Deltarune. They care about porn and shipping.
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>>574975560
No monsters dust in Deltarune good try though
Unless Asgore thinks the Knight is a human from put of town
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>>574978775
Reminder that Noelle magically forgets everything on chapter 5 aborted weird route. There isn't going to be a Noelle chapter 6. There's too many branching mindbreaks with weird route shenanigans from where we started, to when we stopped, to if we stopped at all, for Toby to actually do it. Plus there's no code keeping tack of those highly specific choices. It's another chapter end bait that won't happen, at least with how it baits.
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https://x.com/Nediaxyz/status/2079733924733788230
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>>574979256
wait, thats required to post in this thread?
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>>574979296
>good try though
Oh, you’re one of those
Onion isn’t dead, the takoyaki stand hints at their fate but you aren’t literally feeding Susie their corpse
Asgore knows what Black Shards are, he has two, so yes, he seems knowledgeable enough to tell that the Knight isn’t a monster
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fave wants a sausage egg and cheese croissant
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I love Barny but dislike transfem Ralsei theory. This makes me a little sad.
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>*hic* shorry Shushie I don't get it, what ish a Dark World, what ish thish place.. shorry I kinda drank alot... caushe *hic* my father died... ish ok though it washnt that mucccsssshhhh... hehehe who ish thish pumpkin guy... sho funny...
>"Fahaha Kris, you won't believe the dream I had while I was drunk"
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>>574978903
Because /utg/ is /dum/ with some theories sprinkled on top
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im sooo fucking fat haughythhghhgghhhhhhhhhh
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do you think noelle and kris also got traumatized by the final destination logging truck scene
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>>574978775
At this point the easiest way to predict Chapter 6 is to think about the coolest scenarios you can imagine, and predict Nothing in them will happen per elimination.
Idk. At this point I wish we had the vision of where the plot is going, no reveals, just something to look forward instead of being completely in the dark.
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>>574979256
Bingo
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>>574978903
Do people not do both?
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when you nut but m'they'dy keeps sucking
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>>574979550
truke
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>>574979738
sometimes I check the trash threads and they act like they were exiled from this general
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>>574979423
>Oh, you’re one of those
"Good try though" is a phrase that has been used in a smug and sarcastic way since before the internet.
>Onion isn’t dead
I don't know how you could know that.
>you aren’t literally feeding Susie their corpse
Of course not monsters turn into dust when they die.
>he seems knowledgeable enough to tell that the Knight isn’t a monster
>Can use magic (possibly in the light world)
>Maintains will and a body to act in the light world
Seems like a monster, definitely not a human, and Darkners, Titans, and clopens don't leave bodies either.
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Didn’t realize the thread was was over but this some decent analysis
https://funkyfreshalien.tumblr.com/tagged/deltarune%20analysis
It’s honestly refreshing to see someone with such a nuanced take on this that isn’t “Suselle sucks amirite hmofachads?” or “Suselle is gonna happen and if you believe otherwise you’re delusional”
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>>574979876
Watch xet reply to this calling it
>BAIT NO ONE BELIVES YOU
after essentially publicly announcing to the thread xe’s artschizo or in kahoots with. Can’t ban anymore wb fags, shame!
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Do you agree with this? "A Critique of Deltarune " https://greedykeeblerelf.blogspot.com/2026/03/a-critique-of-deltarune.html?m=1
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i wish i could draw...
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>>574980145
>Kris likes Susie
>Susie likes Noelle
>Noelle likes (you)
It's a love triangle to keep everything interesting. Basic shit.
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>>574980043
>people have been rude assholes for no reason forever
I know.
>you don’t know they’re not dead
True enough, it just seems very unlikely that Toby would randomly have one of his characters killed when it’s much more interesting to think about what exactly happens when you get too close to the song at the bottom/other side of the like (see 5b)
>of course not they dust when they die
Yeah. So, Toby didn’t forget anything.
>can use magic
We don’t know that other humans can’t do this in the Dark World. But it’s not only monsters that can use magic. Darkners and Flowers can, too. In-betweeners.
>maintains will and body in light world
Black Shards don’t change at all between the Light and Dark Worlds. The Knight isn’t a monster, it’s something else, and Asgore’s dialogue just reinforces what we could already infer to be true by just actually looking at it
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>>574980278
keep reading. they seem to have a bit of a bias for krusie.
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here is my measured critique of deltarune

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>everyone forgetting carolanon is artschizo
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>>574976096
if i was kris i would teach ralsei what it really means to serve humans until he wanted it.
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>>574980414
>>574980368
Has the quality of online discourse and attention span degraded so much in just a few years? I'm not saying things were ever particularly good, but it definitely seems to be getting worse.
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Second Voice in the intro is Dess
Soul was meant to go into the Vessel, but she forced it into Kris instead.
Her and Kris are actively trying to go against the prophecy while inadvertently causing it to occur
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>>574980145
I do like the idea that susie doesn't exactly know what love is and thinks she doesn't deserve love but immediately reciprocates noelle's advances because she doesn't know what else to do. It was my initial reading too and seeing her doubt if she's even worthy of it all of chapter 5 makes me feel so bad for susie if this is her first reaction to seeing someone have a crush on her
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>>574980573
With your pingus?
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Pipis
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>>574980773
*nodding* with my pingus.
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>>574980672
I did read it and the second he says shit like "Undertale had no threatening antagonists" my eyes just roll back into my skull. These people who make these large tell all critiques of popular stuff always get basic facts wrong and say immensely stupid things but it doesn't matter, because they're speaking from the height of their blogs and YouTube channels in a way that is pointless to interact with, especially when you realize most of them are internet shitlords who just get defensive when challenged. So big wet sloppy farts it is.
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>>574980551
bunfag is stronger than carolanon (old kike playing thread j3w over the past 10 years) I guess that’d make anyone mentally stronger nvm
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>>574980551
1: No she is not
2: There is no single artschizo. It’s just anons attributing everytime an anon hated on a drawfag to one person
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>>574980145
>Something that’s really common for people who’ve grown up like that to do is that when someone expresses romantic interest in them, they automatically reciprocate, even if they didn’t have any feelings to begin with.
I actually like this reading a lot because it makes sense. I've seen before people act this way with their first crushes and first relationships which fail 99% of the time because it's driven by the sheer novelty of mutual love but there are fewer grounds for it to work. But I still believe Suselle is a lock in solely because of Toby's attitude towards it, and moreso-
>she/her Ralsei
Nevermind this person's opinion sucks ass
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>>574980672
I'm tired after working the night shift and I'm not gonna read a long critique about a game that isn't finished yet.
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>>574979876
Who? Where? The fuck you on about
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>>574980957
felt weird to sneak that in but it is tumblr after all
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>>574980672
personally my time would be better spent staring at a wall than reading the thoughts of every retard out there
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>>574980672
Online discourse needs a major culling where intentionally disingenuous, bad faith discourse needs to be ignored and discarded on principle, which is the root of that review. That guy has legitimate criticism but he makes it clear he's seething and hating on Toby Fox for making a popular game he doesn't like.
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>>574980927
>>574981087
unless this is some extreme self-reply, please dont respond to a random schizophrenic anon trying to re-ignite drama
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>>574981087
Ignore them, lets talk about the little girl eyefucking my troon costume on the tram the other day. Im Sexy mama
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Also, I feel like 50% of Deltarune discussion becomes just theory and speculation. I assume some of it is intentional. But it seems to be rapidly consuming everything, to the point where even unrelated new tracks, like the music 'Skies Forever Blue,' get dragged into theory discussion
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>>574981230
people trying to link the two when the song first came out rubbed me the wrong way back then, it really felt like those old "triangle = illuminati confirmed!!!!!" levels of overreach except not ironic
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*Sigh* someday I will be a beloved anon and have defenders from haters too *sighs and crighs*
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>>574981230
Honestly, just give up on theorizing. It's not going to work, nobody is getting it right. People have read and re-read dialogue more times than Toby at this point and picking meanings there weren't there. The fandom should just admit they enjoy making headcanon instead of trying to predict everything and make their opinions the objective truth. Just make your own Deltarune.
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>>574978903
>human nose more prominent than deer snout
>no lips
I'm seriously getting tired of this anime style of drawing.
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>>574980927
Newfag sighhhhh
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galsei stuff makes me feel so gaslighted. there’s no way i’m wrong, right? these people are just obsessed with gender and seeing it everywhere
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>>574979691
Anon the world is ending. Is that not good enough for you lmao
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>>574981481
just ignore all the counter evidence and it makes sense
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>>574981481
I misread the first word as "Gaster" and was going to agree with you
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>>574981481
Half the trans stuff online is just 4D trolling. They don't actually believe it, but making retards believe and fight over it is hilarious.
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>>574980463
Carol pays Alphys thousands a week to ensure Noelle ends up with Kris
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>>574981481
This is the Mettaton, Mew Mew and Spamton game. It wouldn’t be surprising if gender was part of Ralsei’s arc, even if never made explicit.
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>>574981461
I’ve been here for months already and all I have seen of artschizo is just people giving harsh criticism or trying to stir shit about a drawfag and people bringing up that name in response.
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>>574981390
I think that's the ultimate point of the project. To get people into making games
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>>574981481
It's gaslighting, yes. They will repeat it as many times as it takes until you're conditioned into accepting it against your will. I'd personally just ignore and block everyone who does it
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>>574981621
its an important step to becoming president
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One more thing. I do feel like people are hyping up Deltarune's ending so much that even if it's a decent ending at best, people will still get angry because (Insert theory name) didn't get confirmed or (Insert character name) didn't show up.
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>>574981424
Some people aren't furries but still like the characters. Google Kemonoer art..
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>>574981791
Yes? Obviously? First time?
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>>574981791
Toby already said, before development even started in earnest, that if he had the opportunity to make a second game it would take forever and disappoint people who get themselves hyped up beyond what is reasonable.
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>>574981537
Is the world ending in a cool way or in a lame way?
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>>574981885
lame way
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>>574981791
I believe in Toby. The meta narrative clearly supports that at the end all the characters will become real and come out of my PC to have sex with me
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>>574981791
>I do feel like people are hyping up Deltarune's ending so much
How do you not hype out the "I have solely decided to make games based on the crazy fever dream I had over 10 years ago that was so crazy it convinced me to make it my life goal to have that ending come to life." Yeah it better be fucking amazing, I'm expecting Toby Fox to write the next Metal Gear Solid 2 ending at minimum.
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>>574981481
man who cares, most people just like playing with dolls
this is why I never use tumblr, twitter or tik tok, leave the people who annoy me in their own bubble
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carolanon is uppity but what halfway good artist isn't
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>>574981940
>Irk
>Rk
>Roaring knight
Get Halfbreadchaos on the phone RIGHT NOW
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>>574981848
>why not draw an anthro character properly, like they are in game?
>I'm not a furry
>Kris is the only human in Hometown
Why they fuck are they even here, then?
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>>574981481
don't fall for their propaganda
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im a bipoc
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I now pronouns you fag and got
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>>574982107
humans
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>>574982102
carolanon is artschizo. rest were chill
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carolanon got me pregnant and I liked it
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>>574980209
>Deltarune first released in 2018, it is now approaching the eight year mark of release.
>Deltarune is only now half-way complete. Toby Fox expressly stated early on in development that Deltarune had a team assembled for it because he didn’t want it to take so long developing a singular game, and yet Deltarune will absolutely not complete before it reaches its decade anniversary. Lack of planning, foresight and commitment has marred Deltarune and the fault can only come down on the project lead for failure to manage the project and the people onboard to ensure quick development speed.
>Possibly the most insulting thing Toby has put into his game is real life merchandise
>The Ralsei plush joke happens multiple times over the chapter, too, and not only is it just not funny, it is truly disgusting. There's no other word for it, besides maybe shameless. Because putting something like this into your video game requires you to have no shame.
He's got some good points. Toby has turned into a parody of himself
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>>574981481
I have seen none of it. Get on my level
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>meanwhile inside noelle's uterus...
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>>574982028
carolanon: keh… me and my dinky little art clique launched a smear campaign on them all… keh… they’re gone and i’ve WON! YIPEEEE!
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>>574982317
I can’t believe people actually get offended by the Ralsei plush jokes. They’re funny. Same “people” who get mad over the “memorable theme” line?
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>>574982317
Lmao "good points" for retards maybe
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>>574978071
paying off character arcs and past plot threads at the end of the game is too hard please understand. here have some more lesbians making out
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IM gonna say it....
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I just think Flowery shoving Ralsei in a closet is funny as hell.
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>>574982402
It feels incredibly insincere and makes the game into one big joke
But then again, Toby has always just been another funny guy
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I play Deltarune for the human(s?)
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I think my sister is genuinely retarded we're playing through Undertale and she redid the red leaf segment in the ruins like 5 times
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i miss bunfag sm, only sovlful artist here. now we’re left with melty meatloaf carolanon. RIP artfags
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>>574982107
Draw your own shit mane
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>>574982623
snowdinbunfag will get their retribution anon
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>>574982574
You’re baiting. Goodbye
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>>574981481
It’s retarded cause the whole thing is like “oh he’ll break the prophecy and he’ll be free from the role of prince!” Or whatever, but like, isn’t that just putting him in the role of the girl? He’s just going from 1 box to the other, it’s stupid. Also self discovery isn’t an exclusively trans thing and idk why galsei fans think it is
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>>574982574
As far autistic hang-ups go... this isn't the worst one to have.
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>>574982346
ralsei is my favorite so i am frequently in his tags. galsei stuff pops up a lot
admittedly so do people telling galseifags they need to kill themselves but…
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... I wish Susie wasn't in the party
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>>574982754
you get it kek. i feel like if him becoming a trans could break the prophecy and save his friends he would have done it a long time ago
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Toby loves blue hair and pronouns and one of Ralsei's many problems is being trapped in the prophecy that gives him the explicitly gendered role of the Prince so I think it's reasonable to think there may be some gender shit going on with him
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I'm surprised there's been no nuclear meltdowns over the muse dash collab bc that game is just lolicon: the hit rhythm game
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>>574982574
Toby doesn’t need merch sales. It’s ironic. A joke.
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>>574982975
I want to have sex with the Frisk-cosplayer
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>>574982975
99% of the deltarune fandom doesn't know what that is
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>>574982975
it’s not lolicon, none of the girls are lolis they’re more teens
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>>574982764
Seems easy enough to me: If you can't look through fanart without getting offended then don't. Do something else. Crawl through the music stuff. Stop fighting stupid wars that will get decided by future chapters, not whatever people say on the internet. If what people say on the internet has weight on Toby's ultimate decision of how to tell his story, chudlets getting into arguments with progressive people only is only bound to push him more towards "galsei"
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>>574982975
>>574983104
This, and the remaining 1% is currently posting crying emojis over Aqua.
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>>574982894
This kind of thinking is going to age like milk. I feel like you guys don't understand Ralsei at all when you say this
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>>574981791
I have full faith that the ending will deliver but there will be an army of insufferable manchild faggots who can't read who will shit on it and say toby either changed it to spite them or should have mimicked some way shittier thing
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>>574982730
>>574982761
>>574983018
>just turn your brain off and laugh at the cynical 4th wall breaking humor
ok toby
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>>574983325
>he doesn't like metamodernism
>where the narrative can switch between sincere and ironic
You can always just fucking leave?
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>>574979518
>Ralsei is openly fine with being a princess during Castle Town segment
>Flowery forced Ralsei into the closet at the start of the dark world, and then coaxed him into taking a Estrogen prescription coupon near the end
what did Toby mean by this?
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>>574983325
>cynical
How? He’s pretending to do in-universe product placement. It’s funny.
>4th wall breaking
lol
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>>574983320
This is a free space on the bingo board, anon. I think my only addition would be that a sizeable % of the big ones in this hatedom will be selling their own Deltarune AU or original videogame heavily inspired by Deltarune with not an ounce of shame in their soft, jellied skulls
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>>574981885
extremely lame way and you have to be sidelines in Kris while Noelle and Susie make out
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>>574975456
>Toby forgot his own lore of dusting
Who's to say Monsters dust upon death in Deltarune. Hell, Susie bleeds which should be impossible.
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>>574983241
can you explain because i feel i understand him pretty well
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>>574983465
Why does Tenna know about the Ralsei plush we got in chapter 2? Why does anyone know the real world price of it?
It's shit like that that constantly undermines the narrative and tone and makes the whole thing feel like a pointless joke
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>>574982402
>>574982451
Deltarune Chapter 1 was released on October 31, 2018. Criticizing the game for taking so long to finish all 7 chapters is valid, to be fair. At least chapters 1 and 2 are free, so people can get some idea of what they're getting themselves into. Otherwise, everything moves at a snail's pace
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>>574983646
The Dark Worlds are a shared fiction. And do you really need a fucking Ralsei plush lore explanation? Holy shit
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Unrelated to this discussion, but I understand Toby Fox has been busy with Deltarune and other projects for almost 10 years. Why hasn't Omocat made a new game yet?
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what if toby put a gubby in his game
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>>574979518
see this is why it feels like gaslighting, this post is full of lies or misunderstandings. did this guy play the game? every closet you open before ralsei is full of objects said to be unwanted and then he falls out of the last, and the chapter is about flowery poking fun at him for seeing himself as an object for lightners (humans?)…
i also wonder how much this person has actually talked about ralsei prior to this point. probably not much
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>>574981481
The greatest evidence that some of the Ralsei stuff this chapter is about gender is that the chuds are rigorously attacking people that point it out. If it wasn't obviously true then they wouldn't waste all them time feeling like they have to deny it
>>574982754
It's not about "breaking the prophecy" and people who think that are dumb. The game keeps saying that you shouldn't let stuff like prophecy define you. Everything is pointing towards "do what's right and be yourself DESPITE the prophecy" but ig that we have to ignore that if it means the soft boy who wears a dress might become a she
>>574982317
People that get mad about the plushy jokes are so funny. Mixed media gags are based
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>>574983841
She’d rather make merch and clothes
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>>574983641
Ralsei knows the prophecy better than you do. There will be a Prince. If not him then someone else. By becoming the Prince, if that's what he did, he tried to shape the outcome of the prophecy. He hid Fireshock from (Us), so we wouldn't kill Darkners. He taught us to recruit them instead. He made up little 3-player puzzles so we would work together and and become friends. He doesn't believe breaking the prophecy is possible at all. If he ends up changing his gender presentation it'll be when he fully gives up on playing along with the prophecy and that's a big deal for his character not some throw away "He would've already done it then durr"
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Sans has been telling the player they will be meeting Papyrus "tomorrow" for seven years now
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>>574983889
sa you could also say it’s significant because susie is now living in a closet. and she and kris first entered the dark world(s) via a closet. idk
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>>574983841
Omori took like 9 years and had a lot of problems, she doesn't want to repeat that and she's probably set for life anyway.
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Putting my nose against Seth's small bulge and sniffing
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>>574983646
Darkners are aware of what each others real forms are, and Ralsei's is a collective of real world fangamer plush.
Toby's fever dream was about R.O.B.(Robotic Operating Buddy) being self-aware and wanting to fuck the player. Noelle talking about the Mr. Bucket Board James episode, and the Pushing Buddies segment, were foreshadowing.
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>>574983661
No it isn't. Every Chapter is a game. You are getting multiple Deltarunes, and then a finale that resolves the plot. If you have no patience then leave the fandom to those of us who do. You got a game not even a month ago yet and you're already complaining. Pathetic bitch
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>>574983646
>Why does Deltarune reference Mike Ditka's Big Shot soda?
>Why does Kris click on video names belonging to a real YouTube channel?
I don't know... ha ha ha... I don't know!
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>>574983841
she's collabing with shit like persona for official merch I don't think she needs to do videogames ever again
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The worst thing about Deltarune is how Toby keeps forgetting that it has only four days have gone by so far and these characters have not been best friends for years
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>>574984041
>He doesn't believe breaking the prophecy is possible at all.
…yes he does? do you not remember his breakdown in 4 when he realized everything we’ve done up to that point hadn’t changed the prophecy at all
>* I thought if I said something
different
>* If we did something different
>* If we were just kind enough
>* Perhaps by the time we got
here... it would change.
he did what you mentioned explicitly because he thought doing so would change the prophecy
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>>574983841
Why would she need to lol. People who tell stories are not slaves who need to tell you new stories forever. They can do it once and never again. That's life
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>>574983084
>Another canon loli Frisk
Based!
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>>574984223
Yeah that shit sucks too
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>>574984460
Then fucking leave, faggot.
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Ral
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>>574983956
>If it wasn't obviously true then they wouldn't waste all them time feeling like they have to deny it
this isnt a good argument when even in this thread we regularly have arguments over kris's gender 100% being nonbinary. also see stuff like the they/them wall
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>>574984304
That's not breaking it you fucking retard. That whole cutscene is phrased so specifically, so that you understand that Ralsei doesn't believe in breaking the prophecy. You are an illiterate dumbass. Ralsei had a tiny hope that it would change on its own if he was good enough, that a pacifist playthrough would somehow change destiny. But when he went looking for a sign that it had changed he didn't find it, because that's not how the world of Deltarune works. That means he's resigned now, to making the best of a bad situation. He didn't change his mind about following the prophecy, he changed his mind about having any hope in his own efforts. Again, you don't understand Ralsei at all
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oh well uh... tell me this uh Flowery
DO YOU WANT SOME SLAW?
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>>574984496
No I'm going to stay and continue to criticize Deltarune while hopping for things to get better
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>>574984510
How is that not a good argument? Chuds are retards who will forever grapple with reality, try to cheat and still and lose. That's just another example of it
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>>574984664
Nobody believes that you're criticizing it, or hoping for things to get better. You're just a dedicated hater now looking for validation. The problem isn't in the game, it's in you. If you want it to get better, change yourself
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>>574984664
Hope will not actually rewrite Deltarune to be the way you want it to.

You're on the clock until you get filtered after realizing that the hobby has no intention of changing just to cater to (you). Just like every other dumb bandwagoner faggot.
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GAST
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>>574984680
>retards who will forever grapple with reality, try to cheat and still and lose
woah that sounds just like...
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>>574984895
You? Yeah
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>>574984792
So you think that Deltarune's development has gone perfectly smooth so far?
Every joke has landed? There aren't any annoying parts that could have been better?
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wing ding gaster trouble dingle dingy
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>>574984569
you seem to be angry because you know you are wrong. again, read your post
>He hid Fireshock from (Us), so we wouldn't kill Darkners. He taught us to recruit them instead. He made up little 3-player puzzles so we would work together and and become friends
and then read this
>https://hushbugger.github.io/deltarune/text/#en:4:obj_ch4_DCC03_slash_Step_0_gml_524_0
and then read this, too
>https://hushbugger.github.io/deltarune/text/?chap=1#en:1:scr_text_slash_scr_text_gml_329_0
ralsei has always pushed kindness because he thought that was the way to disrupt or alter the prophecy
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>>574984048
I'm frustrated and I binged UT-Ch5 within like 2 weeks. I can't imagine how day-1ers must feel.
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>>574980374
>We don’t know that other humans can’t do this in the Dark World
What an intentionally misleading detail if true. For the one human to not be able to use magic explicitly, like in the previous game, when so many things are the same.
>But it’s not only monsters that can use magic. Darkners and Flowers can, too.
But none of those things leave a corpse. Especially not a corpse that can be paraded around the light world. Titans are the same.
>The Knight isn’t a monster, it’s something else
So you believe the answer to the mystery of who is the knight which has been running since Chapter 2, in your mind is not only somebody we haven't met, but something we have never seen.
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>>574984843
>the hobby
One game is not a hobby
And I'm not asking for it to be rewritten. There's a lot of things from chapters 1, 3, and 4 that I think were very well done and I hope we get more stuff like that instead of whatever the hell chapter 5 was
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>>574985039
>the Among Us joke was dated
>that means I get to complain about Toby's entire brand of humor and writing
Nope. No, you don't.
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>>574984498
sei
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>>574985039
The development process of the game is nothing to do with you. That involves people working and being paid for their labor, which is difficult to coordinate, especially in an autheur as fuck game like this. If you want speedy dev times and crunch go consume something else. There's no point in arguing with entitled children who think all that belongs to them just because they paid 15 bucks for a copy of the end result and didn't like it. Go have your lunch somewhere else
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>>574984680
my point is more that saying people argue against galsei because they actually think it has merit and is true, youre also saying people who argue against he/she for kris are doing that because they dont actually think kris is nonbinary
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>>574985256
Actually I can and I will
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>>574985220
Dino nuggets
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>>574985324
Then you accept everything that happens from now on.
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>>574984680
People have discussed thousands upon thousands of lines of shitty carolknight/rudyknight/dessknight theories and that doesn't mean they are true
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>>574985257
I may have found the fluffiest of boys today
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>>574985312
>If you want speedy dev times and crunch
Hmm... that's not what I said at all
Is this what they call "arguing in bad faith"?
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>>574985432
he looks edible
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>it’s taking too long
Impatience is a you problem.
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/utg/ didn't have this level of toxic positivity during The Wait
What happened?
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>>574985116
I'm not reading your links, faggot. Play the game. It's all in there. Ralsei doesn't fucking believe that anymore. He didn't believe it that strongly before either. Ralsei has given up on changing the prophecy entirely and has started putting all his hopes on Kris. Flowery forced him to deal with that and admit it, to himself and to Kris and us. Then Ralsei tried to heal Flowery at the end anyway and admitted that trying is still an integral part of him. That's the major development of the Chapter. Now that Ralsei has given up on changing the prophecy and has given up on changing the part of himself that wants it to change, he might start rebelling against it, but we don't know because that's stuff for future chapters. If Ralsei changes his gender presentation it will be 1000% in character and following from what has happened so far. He knows more about what's happening than you do, clearly, since you can't even interpret the game correctly
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>toxic positivity
Which chudcore video essay does this bullshit excuse to be a debbie downer come from
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>>574985485
Scientifically proven fact
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>>574985539
Toby took so long that he made a joke about taking too long
He showed his mom the Jackenstien fight and she called it a cry for help
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>>574984510
>this isnt a good argument when even in this thread we regularly have arguments over kris's gender 100% being nonbinary
The only people that deny Kris being nonbinary as Toby intended are seething chuds who can't read
>>574984680
>Chuds are retards who will forever grapple with reality, try to cheat and still and lose
This, the chud is a naturally duplicitous creature who thrives off lying and manipulating
>>574985256
The among us joke made me chuckle and I have to wonder how the people bothered by it felt about the "do it for the vine" joke in chapter 5
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i have a mighty need to hold someone's hand
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>>574985581
People realized that they have different opinions from one another.

Better make Orkastle a better game than Deltarune, Howard. Otherwise, you'll get murdered.
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>>574985708
Yeah it’s funny. Not really anything to get actually upset about
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>>574985635
b-but anon those links are linking to actual text from the game…
i accept your concession regardless
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>>574974729
Living tutorial
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>>574982165
Mewbies
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>>574985635
why are you so mad lol
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>>574974729
gaster's tutorial plaything or a titan (i will think of a way for this to work)
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>>574983841
i'd imagine she just doesn't want to do another game. she got successful off of omori and that's that. although she made omori just before everyone became a screeching puritan, so she probably doesn't want to go through making another game about her shotacon fantasies just to get harassed by people who were born when omori came out.
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>ctrl-f: chud
>8 results
what happened to these threads
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>>574985965
Because Chapter 6 will have some Ralsei gender shit in it 100% and I will have to put up with faggots like you the entire rest of my time in this fandom
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>>574986094
Seems to all be one person
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Question spurred on by the bait being spammed.
What is the connection between Ralsei and Noelle that gives them lethal magic but not Susie and Gerson?
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Chapter 5 is merely a taste of how polarizing Deltarune will get. Conceptualize what the future holds.
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>>574986097
It's not your fandom faggot and it never was.
>>574986094
We're naming the chud now sorry
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>>574985965
he is a seething trannoid who is angry he lost
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>>574986160
their transness
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>>574986094
what's wrong with saying "chud"
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>>574985312
>autheur
ESL, your opinion will be discarded
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>>574985432
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>>574986097
>he's in a fandom for a game made by a Tumblr kid, like Toby
>he's mad
lmfao

Dumbfuck.
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>>574986160
The premise of Deltarune includes another stealth parallel to Undertale in that there is a "power level" differential, this time between mages and everyone else, instead of humans and monsters
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words we can ban forever: chud, larp, tourist, foid, moid
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>>574986246
True! The power of fluffy boys prevails
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>>574986175
this is actually way less bad then I thought it was gonna be.
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>>574986175
i just really hope we are polarized over fun stuff (knight reveal, mechanics) and not something as bland and tedious as gender. at the moment i just cant see transei happening, it doesn’t fit the character or the broader themes in deltarune, but i guess the chance isnt 0%
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>>574986352
Susie and Ralsei are both as much mages as each-other.
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>>574986264
we used to joke about being a fandom like and call other fandoms stuff like bigot universe or bigot hotel for not being progressive enough
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>>574985539
Tell that to 41 fans that killed themselves.
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I need creative direction!

Nobody cared for my Kratti Green, >>574976140 but I'm glad the idea is out of my head.

I need something new! I'm trying to practice both drawing and writing. Should I do something funny or serious?
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>>574986301
>Doesn't know what autheur means
Sorry anon I'll try to stick to the wordlist for 6-12 year olds
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>>574986303
holy SEX
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>>574985539
Seven Final Fantasy games were released in the span of 8 years and Toby can't finish one single game
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>>574986385
Only because Weird Route travelers are barely sapient, and don't understand that they got screwed out of TWO chapters.

How can Toby shit on them some more? Straight up killing Noelle would actually be the least horrible thing he'd do. Actually, why contain yourself to the game?

Make Chapter 7 Side B a separate update. And delay it by a year. Extra year of development and content? Nope. It's just ready to go, same as the rest of Chapter 7. It's just not getting released for an entire year. Because fuck you, that's why.
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>>574986417
Toby is an ally so it will happen
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>>574986557
Not how it is spelt, kiddo.
>B-But
Don't care.
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>>574986223
>>574986307
I'm angry to have to put up with chuds assmad about the contents of the games. Pay attention.

>>574986449
No they aren't.
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niggas just be lyin for no reason
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I think papyrus is the knight he is using dess's severed head as a helmet
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>>574986686
Toby is a retard who will become more retarded and forget even more things from previous chapters in next 2-3 years. perfectionist my ass
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I just think he's better as a boy
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>>574986612
There are 10 years between FF1 and FF7. 87-97
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>>574986723
“everyone who disagrees with my headcanon is a chud”
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>>574986767
Thats how the thread was the first few days after the new chapter came out
Now it's only /utg/ lifers and threadshitters
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>>574986847
That's fascism.
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>>574986767
He's right, we have allocated times for porn, so it's not everywhere
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>>574986767
We have some but not omnipresent porn and Kris gets called they more often than not
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>>574986686
are you underage
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When I want to reveal a main character of seven years is trans. I often have that scene be optional and overriden by The Original Starwalker
>>574986723
>No they aren't.
Yes they are Susie and Ralsei are both Red Mages, who both have a weapon and can cast offensive magic, healing magic and support magic as of Chapter 5.
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>>574986767
Man I've been respecting Kris's pronouns for a while but this upset makes me wanna not do it
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>>574986847
This is another thing people have to consider
If he canonizes trans ralsei people will have to delete all of the pre-girl ralsei art unless they want a shitstorm
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>>574986905
and?
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hey guys!
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How do I get a dess gf?
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>>574986847
Several times I've seen this picture and only now realized Ralsei's using his scarf as a chair, that's cool
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>>574987035
jambalaya
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>>574986523
seth is never going to let you hit unless you happen to be an annoying ass bluebird, bro.
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>>574986847
true just let the fluffy boy be a fluffy boy
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>>574976350
I love how it looks kinda stiff and orthopedic but when it's time to emote it comes alive in such a neat way. Great design anon.
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>>574987027
i want nazi ralsei to do really fucked up bdsm stuff to me
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scarf shibari
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>>574986523
her*
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>>574986973
I'm nearly as old as Toby so I know how he thinks
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>>574986858
Whatever, six.
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>>574987159
Seth likes annoying nerds, like me, so they'd be into me
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attention: your 15 minute porn posting period will begin in 12 seconds
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>>574986890
What's kris's gender btw?
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>>574987226
Are you also a small dog
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>>574987226
No you don't unless you let me come over and bash your wrists with a hammer.
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>>574987091
just be a boss monster
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>>574987268
>loud as fuck porn alarm goes off in my room, triggering all of the car alarms outside
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>>574987307
Gender? Kris' sex is male because you don't cohabitate near adult children of opposite sexes.
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Making Ralsei transfem would make the fandom less gay. So it won't happen.
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Fave is real but says 4chud lingo out loud while in public
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The male representation in Deltarune is genuinely just kind of bad
The most prominent male characters are sexymen and meme characters (or both), or complete losers like Asgore. There's not a single straightforward, normal, cool important male character.
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>>574987494
?
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>>574987507
oh because deltarune is an unfinished piece of shit i geti t
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I want my little chuddlings Kris and Catti to declare their chud love for one anchudther.
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>>574987554
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>>574987512
Ralsei saying "foids" in his soft voice with utter seriousness would be oddly adorable
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>>574987554
there is his name is ralsei
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>>574987554
Games are not required to favorably represent any demographic.
Also Gerson
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>>574987554
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>>574987543
he looks like he is about to sneeze
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I love a good sprite animation
https://youtu.be/y80Lg9i-3JY
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>>574987554
Going into a Tobysoft game wanting characters that are straightforwardly cool is masochistic, none of the female characters are like that either
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>>574986993
No, anon. They aren't. You are focusing on the wrong part. Susie is not a mage. Kris is also not a mage. For the same reason. Noelle and Ralsei are also mages for the same reason.
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>>574987769
He's gonna sneeze Fireshock and obliterate half of the Flower Castle
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>>574987543
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>>574987778
JIGSAW JOE IS REAL
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>>574981791
My guess, and this is following Toby's pattern. Is that the team will make a good, nay even amazing ending for the causal player, the emotional moments will hit because Toby knows how to nail those. But to the autists like us here, it'll be Mount Frustration because it'll be couched in the same ambiguous, nothingburger, "Read between the lines" half truths we've had for everything before hand. If you thought Chara discourse was bad, I'm expecting it to be exponentially worse and not be just one aspect of the game.
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>>574987810
Undyne
Papyrus
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>>574987512
am I allowed to kill them?
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what if we started to beat all women up
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>>574987848
>Susie is not a mage
She casts fucking magic.
>Kris is also not a mage.
Of course not he can't cast magic
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>>574987669
Dying dad whose purpose is to die and prop a female character.
>>574987732
>>574987763
Too old, I don't want to be like an old turtle writer no matter how cool he is. Also, mentor whose purpose is to prop up a female character.
>>574987810
Susie is cool, I think almost everyone can agree with that. Noelle is made cool in a lot of ways despite her derpiness
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>>574986532
How about you animate Catti getting plappled and the fat on her belly keeps making an oscillating wave?
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>>574987494
I guess that means Noelle and Dess are opposite sex. Which one is the male one?
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i wish i could FUCKING draw..
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>>574987554
most of the fanbase is male. (you) are a character in the game. aren't you masculine anon?
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Guys. Guys.
I just got it.
"No one chooses who they are in this world."
This is a game about self-determination
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Let's all agree to throw cattifag into a large vat of hydrochloric acid
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what if we all gangbanged kris
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>>574987863
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>>574988141
I'm fat and gay.
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>>574988070
bruh, do you want your OC in there?
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>>574987958
You get bunker'd if you do.
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just smacked my mother for the cause
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>>574988128
The Holidays aren't dirt poor like the goats so they could afford to give their kids each a private room
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>>574987904
to be fair, literally every chapter release after 1 has had this problem of people getting way too invested into whatever theory they first saw on twitter and getting disappointed when the game doesn't cater to it. the ending is just gonna be the same
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>>574986532
Do something funny
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>>574987670
ralsei saying anything in his voice engineered to be cute and lovable would be adorable
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>>574987494
Interesting headcanon, can you explain what text in the game you based it on or is just on of those "vibes based" headcanons?
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>>574987554
If utdr was in 90s utdr toys would be ij girl's section next to barbie and gr15
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>>574988056
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Deltarune's ending will BETRAY the fans by not explaining what happened in the timeskip between Classic and X
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>fuck you for theorizing and having expectations about my game that took twelve years to make
Sorry toby it wont happen again
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>>574988273
The goats are monsters and don't need to run their family the way humans expect them to
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>Drivin' in my car right after a beer
>Hey that bump is shaped like a queer
>Hap-py Pride? How about you die?
>I'll go a hundred miles in an hour~

Why is he like this?
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This is what EggFricker52 wants but fatter by the way.
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megaman x guitar save me
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Would you accept the ending? If the final line were the same as in Flowers, with Toby speaking through the character and saying to you, “Thank you for watching our dream”? And credits
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>>574988208
really good raly, sauce?
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>>574988446
Dr. Light why are you so stingy with lore in your capsules this is a matter of historical record
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>it come wit egg ro
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>>574988506
if Toby gives us a fun final boss battle and gives us the vessel back to use it during said final battle I'd be fine with that
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>>574987554
Gaster
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>>574988506
I already accepted everything that will happen when I installed the survey program but that doesn't mean I have to like it
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OUUUGH Zero, on that day... that horrible day... the Maverick Virus it... OH it's terrible...
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>>574976345
But I hate my stupid chud vessel
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>>574988395
True, but there's something especially cute about the idea of him using slang and mild swears, I'd wanna aggressively hug him if he did that.
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>>574988656
such a bratty expression
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>>574988664
Give up on the vessel already, anon. Come on
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>>574988506
and then toby painfully transforms into a flower
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>>574988464
Can’t blame him. Onionsan looks adorable.
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>>574988404
Sorry it's perfectly natural for a 14 year old female and an 18 year old male to sleep in the same room.
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>>574988208
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if you’re going to namefag as me at least post some beautiful old women while you’re at it
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RAPE AND BEHEAD ALL FATFAGS
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>>574988570
The artist goes by Hesperidae
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjgviUfCMis
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>REAL
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>>574988718
ralsei saying fuck…
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>>574988248
I want a normal male character meant to be inspiring who's part of the main cast
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>>574987554
This has to be bait but
>wise elder who wants the youth to live unshackled of the expectations of the past and be their best selves
>his sons who's a genuine and earnest religious leader in the community
>local business owner who only struggles because he hates having to exchange money for symbols of beauty and love, is a competent investigator and caring father who's only lost his way because of a tragedy that haunts him
>happily married father who manages to be the emotional balance for his wife and daughter despite his worsening illness, and puts on a strong face for them so they don't worry. Is genuinely a kind person who loves his friends and family
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>>574988701
>Maverick Virus
You fucked it up because you gave a hint to what actually happened.
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>>574988918
Then go read Justice League.
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>>574988803
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>>574988918
You'll get Papyrus in chapter 8
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In Romancing SaGa 2 you can teach any playable character spells from up to 3 schools of magic
In Deltarune each character can only use magic of one element AND the hero can't use magic at all
What went wrong?
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>>574988801
I didn't ask about your sexual fantasies weirdo, I asked about your headcanon. Idk what 14 and 18 year olds your talking about I'm talking about Deltarune
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>>574988918
flowery was in the main party for like 15 seconds. that's the best you're gonna get
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>>574987494
What are you trying to say?
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no no no!
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>>574988953
>the only good one
>non-character with two lines per chapter
>failure who ruined his family
>potential man, also probably not a good father seeing as how his kids turned out
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>OOH Mary, I haven't seen you since THAT day... when you died of THAT disease... OOOH it's terrible Mary....
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GameCube era render
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>>574988896
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>>574988858
link me please googling that just showed a ton of butterflies
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>>574989039
a team of 10-20 japs with less money and 30+ years older techonology did better job than a rich american weeb
they had passion for their work unlike tobert
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>>574989039
>implying Toby would base his system on Romancing SaGa 2 instead of some turbonormie shit like Chrono Trigger
Besides the type of bullets is innate to the monster so I don't think it's that easy to respec
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Toby fucked up by taking too long. He actually cannot outdo this one.
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>>574988893
oyakodon
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Is it really that easy? Is this why Kris flirts with every enemy?
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i wish this game had more to the gameplay other than just acting and bullet hell.
like, it's an rpg, you can do so much more.
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>>574988953
Yeah man, but none of those characters are main characters. It doesn't work to me if there's a nice elder guy whose message will only be practiced by more important girl characters. Also, if I'm supposed to be inspired by a nice "dad" character might as well watch a Disney princess movie.
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media is so full of regular masculine dudes you can look up to. i dont care about representation or whatever unless its like black and brown characters in shows for kids/teens but i do like how fresh ralsei feels. a balm for my eyes
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Fat
Darkner
Ass
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>>574989347
forgot to mention in less time too
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>>574989003
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>>574989435
Delusional
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>>574988294
I'm saying the reason we have the endless theory autism is because the game doesn't/won't commit to concrete answers either way. We will end Ch7 happy, or at least bittersweet, but if we take the time to analyze the what brought us here, the stepping stones may be few and far between, and to fill those will be the reading between the lines UT has with Chara.

>shower thoughts
Which kind of goes with my idea on why AUs just don't exist for DR in the same way for UT. In UT we have a lot of foundational stuff between characters, the world of Mt.Ebott to both know for certain on things to coincide with the mysteries (Chara/Sans/Flowey's escapades/etc.). Meanwhile DR...we're so deep into the fog we're trying to read shadows like they're tea leaves.
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>>574989326
OK, I actually misread the handle, its "hesperidiae"
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>we don't know something with absolute certainty but we can infer the answer from context clues
>we don't know something with absolute certainty but I know the answer because it has to be what lines up with my beliefs and I know Toby agrees with me
The two types of theoryfags
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>>574989371
come to think of it. wouldn't noelle go straight to chucking the guitar to the darkworld the moment susie lets her in with our secret? if toby does not explore this he's a massive hack.
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>>574989310
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dude, it's okay, you can play all these games if you want a normal male character meant to be inspiring who's part of the main cast
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>>574989506
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>>574989423
>>574987554
Now imagine this for your entire formative life
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>>574989371
>December
>Ember
How the fuck did i never think of this.
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>>574989402
99% of darkners don't have shit to worry about or actual life experience, which is why they all get swooned (lol) by a blue raspberry colored teenager who barely talks. "kris is good at flirting" theory DEAD
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>>574989610
>tadc fan
well i wont be following but i love that she actually draws his bob. good art
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>>574989184
Illiterate troglodyte
>>574989423
>I need a typical big strong man who's the obvious hero and aligns with my beliefs to "inspire" me or else I don't get my warm fuzzy wuzzies :(
The irony with fags like you is ridiculous
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>>574989079
You are right Kris was more likely 15 when Asriel was 18
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I can't wait to start Chapter 6 and get thrown into a cum jar by Kris so they can go open a fountain in Jockington's toilet I'm such a happy kek
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>>574989650
Shit! It most definitely won't happen and it will suck.
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>>574989717
i forgot the image.
it's a real suggestion
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>>574989812
Do you having else to add to the discussion besides insults?
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>>574989518
You are delusional.
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have you guys ever stopped to think that maybe you don't have to jerk off to every little thing that disgusts you and triggers your amygdala and tricks you into thinking you're turned on
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fave saying this
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>>574987554
The most straightforward, normal, and cool male important character is already in the game dude.
It's (YOU).
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>>574989910
>stops around the mid 2010s and a few of these get killed off later
nooticing
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>>574983629
The library.
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ok, but WHY IS THIS GAME 30FPS???
IT'S 2026, WHY CAN'T IT BE A SILKY SMOOTH 60??W
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>>574989569
>I'm saying the reason we have the endless theory autism is because the game doesn't/won't commit to concrete answers either way
That's because that's how you build tension in a mystery. Undertale has much of the same story structure, the mysteries just weren't as at the forefront.
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>>574989720
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>>574989812
Why is it wrong to ask for representation for my gender when other people ask for representation for female and trans characters and?
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>>574990017
Who

Why should I care
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>>574989717
>>574989910
what a weird hateful position to hold
>errrr if you're the majority of an entire sex uhhh maybe you don't matter because there's so many of you and I don't like you
what a bleak world you freaks occupy
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>>574989992
>retard read a snippet of the abstract of one paper and now believes human paraphilia is solved
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>>574990076
Ask again after the culture war
Right now no one gives a shit about the representation for men
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>>574989910
where's my nigga marcus fenix
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>>574990074
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>>574989413
The acting and bullet hell are a really good gameplay loop. Honestly, the biggest issue is that there's not enough of those now. I do wish the items you equipped had meaningful impact on that sort of thing, but any with more complexity than what we currently have would also be bad for anybody that isn't completely in the trenches, because they wouldn't remember what the fuck they did a year ago.
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>>574989912
Just that if you're so lost that if you have to look at every fictional character through the lens of "where's the guy im supposed to relate to that makes me feel like I could be cool like him?" then you're probably an insufferable loser who will never accomplish anything and waste your time seeking validation through fiction rather than enjoying fiction for what it is
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I want big strong men in mt game because I'm gay and I want to fuck them
Only kids and black people(women) go "this character is a representation of me"
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>>574990076
why are you looking for representation in the ultra giga faggot woke game
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>>574990076
>Why is it wrong to ask for representation for my gender
>when other people ask for representation for female and trans characters and?
Because those people are wrong, and somebody else being sexist, racist, cisphobic and heterophobic doesn't give you permission to be sexist, racist, transphobic and homophobic.
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>>574990027
dude like the goty of last year has a male main cahracter, waht are you on about?
kingdom come deliverance also hada male main character.
spider-man 2 had 2 male main characters.
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>>574990194
Deltarune will age like milk after the war is over.
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>>574990228
People want Ralsei to be trans right now to validate their own feelings and you're supposed to cheer for them
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>>574990223
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>>574990027
(HEARTWARMING) /utg/ poster discovers that people usually don't like having the same character archetype and story in every game they play and movie they watch for several years
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>>574990335
What even was the goty of last year I seriously can't recall
And chuds don't like Spiderman 2 cause Miles is black and Peter bumps into a fridge or something
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>>574990053
What's weird is 60fps is an option in Gamemaker. It's probably too late now because it would probably break a ton of stuff but I never understood why Toby decided 30fps was the right call.
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>>574990317
>doesn't give you permission
Yes, it does, little anon.
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>>574990390
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All this [Jabber] about [Male Representative] when all I want is [Spammy Mailman] representation!
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>>574990408
Can there be a happy middle between generic brown hair dude era and grizzled dads and angry brown women era?
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You guys are acting lame
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>>574990146
chill out dude.
it's just like the first image that showed up when i typed "male main characters in videogames".
no reason to get mad
but those games are all fun, aren't they?
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>>574990017
But Chara, I don't have enough cards to need a trade binder, I go on MTG Forge. What?

>>574990027
Not OP but I'll take this time to shill peak Team Ninja
>Williams Adams (Nioh 1 (2018))
>Your OC (Nioh 2 (2020))
>Jack Garland (Strangers of Paradise (2022))
You got three games tiger, now go ahead and remind yourself what having fun is you stale end piece of white bread.
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>>574990498
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>>574990450
I wish seth was real so i could bully them constantly. amazing character
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>>574990558
Sorry but it gives 50% mercy and tires enemies, it's just the most efficient option.
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Wowza, it turns out both sides of the pointless culture war are annoying as fuck!
Can you turn your energy towards I dunno voting for better healthcare or human rights? Said Mayor Carol Holiday who complains about the lack of school budget.
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>>574990546
Genderless solid-brown cartoon creatures
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wow it's a good thing men aren't real right
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>>574990650
>pillow isn't drenched
Biblically inaccurate image
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>>574990174
>he hasn't interacted with enough people to form a predictive model based on the information available
science is about the creation of predictive models
that's all it's for
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>>574990361
>trannies out of nowhere
Don't you hate those people? Doesn't it undermine your position if you go "well the people I hate are doing it too?" There are people analyzing the text or the game and relating events in Ralsei's character developments and the challenges an opposing character provides to the experience of a transgender woman. Other people spend their time denying that subtext because the validation they feel by relating to a character is more important than the author's potential intent for the character or other people's interpretation of the character. The trans Ralsei "debate" is at least fuelled by recent in game events, you are bemoaning that this story you've been engaging with for probably 8 years isn't morphing itself to provide a character for you to project onto and get your good feels out of rather than enjoying what the story puts forth
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>>574990690
>all the world is america
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>you stale end piece of white bread.
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>>574990797
>analyzing the text
LMAAAAAOOOOOO
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why does ralsei sluttishly try to seduce me, the player, constantly?
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>>574990636
It feels kind of odd to see him in just a big T-shirt, even though this is basically his cloak minus all the detail
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>>574990690
hi carol
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>>574990174
if everyone in town looked like a freak realistic animal, i too would try to end the world like kris.
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>>574990603
no, and you know that most of these protagonists have been lambasted as generic and their games as slop, movie games, etc. it's guilt by association and you fucking weirdos do this shit all the time.
>men bad
>white men bad
>be enby be trans be better men
>a woman is speaking start listening
everything white and male is stale according to you dishonest freaks
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>>574990228
I don't want to accomplish anything.
>enjoying fiction for what it is
???
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>>574990690
that might require me to get up off my fat ass so no.
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Bulkin.........
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>>574990890
it's like he's naked
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>>574990912
ok dude, but like
do you think dess had a fat ass and that's why asriel like her so much?
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>>574990626
>But Chara, I don't have enough cards to need a trade binder, I go on MTG Forge
I actually need another binder because I caved and ordered the FiaB Amsterdam because I wanted the Titania in it... It's supposed to arrive today
>>574990650
Seth is really the perfect nerd character, penny settling on the simon chipmunk voice for them was perfect
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"Non binary" doesn't exist
You're either male or female
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wtf is a binder
why do i need stationary?
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>>574990950
>I don't want to accomplish anything
Yes that's obvious because you spend your time projecting onto fictional men instead of acting
>>574990873
Concession accepted
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It's kinda funny that we're having this discussion when we just had Flowery who was literally an "inspiring male main character"
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>>574990797
>you are bemoaning that this story you've been engaging with for probably 8 years isn't morphing itself to provide a character for you to project onto and get your good feels out
But if a character is being shaped, by author's intention, into becoming something another group can project and feel good out of, my feelings are validated because we are playing a zero sum game where I lost and someone else won. It's bad that I projected, but it's good the trans people projected.
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>>574990817
Healthcare is bad in Canada, the UK, Australia and most of Europe too.
Amerifat healthcare is just uniquely bad. Pretty much any non-nordic country has crappy healthcare and good luck finding any place that has decent consideration for mental health on top of that.
Said Politics Bear who promises he is neutral about these things
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>>574991159
Thank you for being such a good loser
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>>574991175
flowery is a beautiful woman
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>>574991220
Something tells me nordic hands typed this post.
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ralsei getting coated in an orange goo
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>>574991175
It doesn't count because twinks aren't real men I hate JRPGs too because anime men are gay reeeeeee
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do you guys think Carol is those kinds of mayors that keep making instagram reels advertising how great the town is?
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>>574990961
carol and sans are unstoppable force x immovable object
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is it poal time
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>>574991175
anon flowery is a rapist
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>>574991159
>you spend your time projecting onto fictional men instead of acting
What do you want me to do?
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>>574991318
Akchually I'm from France.
>>574991406
but that makes him inspiring and based
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>>574991406
as they said.
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would kris be mad or disgusted if they found out that you bought the shirt
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sorry for the xitter screenshot but this is actually fucking killing me lmao
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>>574991386
Now THIS kinda talk is /utg/
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>>574991406
ralsei is so appalled kekkk
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>>574991176
>my feelings are validated because we are playing a zero sum game where I lost and someone else won
If this is how you feel about fiction then you need to go outside. "Representation" is not a zero sum game, nobody is winning or losing. If you can't engage in a story without thinking "okay how will this make me feel good and appeal to me directly?" you need to grow up. You are the child who cries when he has to share his toys or when he doesn't get the right color sprinkles on his sundae
>>574991224
Weird cope but okay
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who are kris’s biological parents and would they have approved of kris getting adopted by goats?
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>>574991386
Is he standing on a stool?
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>people thought susie was going to get blamed for wrecking the church
>people thought asgore was going to do something
>people thought carol would exist
>nothing happened
>people think Noelle will freak out when Susie shows her that the dark world is real
>
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>>574991328
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>>574991034
NTA but it's always telling how once you hit a metaphorical wall you start posting in jest just to not admit you're wrong
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4XiTCBgmSM
important video
IMPORDANT
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That's it this general is too political I am switching to the superior game about an edgy blue guy a nerdy green guy and a dumb strong pink guy
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>>574991628
>"Representation" is not a zero sum game, nobody is winning or losing.
But there are people being rewarded by doing that exact behavior while I get punished for it. If Ralsei is trans, they get happy. That means this behavior towards media isn't bad when you get what you want. *I* have to conform to enjoying media without characters appealing to me, but they don't.
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>>574991817
this post made me call kris a coon in my head good job
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>>574991580
Both obviously. Maybe some part of them would be flattered but that would just piss them off even more.
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>>574991656
the artist seems to be sadly opposed to manlet sans
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>>574982872
It was supposed to be Noelle, yeah.
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>>574991580
same FUCKER who treats you like shit no matter how you act
they would be both.
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>>574991764
I feel like a female Flowery would be a Rose of Versailles (or Utena to go with the more famous subversion) homage
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>>574991363
come visit hometown and see our iconic eight buildings and population of like 70 people
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>>574991794
This can't be real.
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>>574991794
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I hope Deltarune gets a manga once the game is done
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>>574991386
>carol warning sans of a health violation on his supermarket
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>>574990817
In America we can't vote on policy issue without wasting our time. Your vote can only make a "difference" if you choose falseflagging friend of jewish pedophile in a red tie, or you can choose falseflagging friend of a jewish pedophile in a blue tie.
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>Deltarune Kart
Kris
Susie
Ralsei
Noelle
King
Lancer
Jevil
Queen
Berdly
Spamton
Tenna
Roaring Knight
Gerson
Titan
Aqua
Seth
Flowery
Pink

Secret Characters:
Your Vessel
Rouxls
Tasque Manager and her gooner costumes
Hometown Butcher
Asriel (Blue Ralsei)
Dess (Silhouette Noelle)
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>>574991580
I don't give a shit. Kris can mald to death over it.
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it makes me sad that we wont get a noelle dark world because it's too complicated for toby to code :(
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>>574992092
i want them to stop hurting so bad /b/ros...
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uh oh!
https://x.com/i/status/2080004587117842794
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>>574991580
I'm going to buy at least 4 and use them as cumrags.
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>>574991693
yeah, noelle gotta have one too, right?
those carol genes must be strong.
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>>574990019
Based.
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>>574992040
kris without the soul in them is even more of a wet noodle then they already are in the light world. they wouldn't do shit except glare at you lmfao
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>>574992092
Cheer up, little apple
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>>574992092
If Kris with the Soul taken out is anything like Flowey when Soulless then Kris shouldn't be feeling any emotion right?

Maybe Kris takes out the SOUL at Night because feeling nothing is more comfortable than feeling like a FUCKING TRAITOR all the time.
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>>574990797
> There are people analyzing the text or the game and relating events in Ralsei's character developments and the challenges an opposing character provides to the experience of a transgender woman.
trannies have shallow experiences and so they see themselves everywhere. we do not need “representation” for mentally ill, navel gazing narcs, they dont matter and thats why the only canon tranny in deltarune will remain the nameless background character. that is where trannies belong
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I had some actual carol x sans fanart saved but I can't find it because I never name any files
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>>574991950
i want those torturing yoshi plushies videos but for ralsei.
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>Flowery is literally clinging to a doomed dream
>Doesnt have the freedom motif or shadow crystal
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i think if the vessel finds out i gave them the baldcut they'd hate me
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>>574991671
>people think noelle will be told the dark world is real
>people think she'll see castle town
>people think noelle, the character with a route dedicated to her that majorly alters her relationships and understanding of the dark world which can be aborted at 3 unique points in that process, won't be picrel for the whole chapter until the 5 minutes before the cliffhanger
lmao
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saw a really retarded theory that not only was dess human but the soul is dess's and the roaring knight is her empty body
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kris feels emotions without the soul because kris steps on the soul in anger if you continue the weird route in chapter 4
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>>574992159
>>574992304
we'll be able to comfort them eventually
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>>574991406
He kissed them goodnight that's actually really sweet
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>>574992370
>Freedom motif
Excuse me it's the Battat motif.
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>>574992370
It isn’t broken. Flowery never stopped believing, never stopped hoping even for a second.
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>>574992370
Flowery is wrong there is no reason the Flowers couldn't live for an extended period going in and out of the Dark World.
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>>574991853
>But there are people being rewarded by doing that exact behavior while I get punished for it
Rewarded for doing what exactly? How are you being punished? Is the "ralsei doesn't have to be a boy" subtext in the chapter a personal attack on you? Did Toby only put it in to kowtow to some secret cabal of troons?
>That means this behavior towards media isn't bad when you get what you want
Being dependent on all media conforming to your views and treating you like you're special is wrong yes. Being mad that a story doesn't go out of its way to make you feel special or being mad that someone else interprets the text in a way that they feel validated them and not you is wrong yes. The people that NEED Ralsei to be trans or not are all annoying, and generally missing the point of what was said in the chapter. Needing Ralsei to be explicitly transfem vs explicitly needing him NOT to be transfem is the same disease, you don't care about the character you care about "winning." If you need to tally up "scores" of what's "for you" and what's "not for you" you probably don't have a whole lot going on with your life
>*I* have to conform to enjoying media without characters appealing to me, but they don't.
Yes you generally have to conform your expectations for a piece of media to what the author is putting in front of you, for better and for worse. Do you believe Toby should out a traditionally masculine fantasy hero in because it hurts your feelings that there isn't one? Does putting a tranny in the game hurt your feelings?
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>by not being real he became the realest of them all
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>>574979691
if you kept the thornring up to this point do you think we'll be able to snowgrave someone? my thoughts by this point are no
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My cute and feminine wife
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>>574992491
iunno about that one /b/ro I think kris is jst religated to eternal suffering designated by Tobert "The Fox"
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>>574992584
There is no subtext on Ralsei's gender. You are projecting, literally
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>>574988231
Flowery...
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>>574992385
Bald Vessel will climb out of the screen and take (You)r hair
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>>574992354
Kris obviously still has feelings without the SOUL or they wouldn't bother trying to help Berdly and Noelle in the weird route. Whether this is just because SOULs work differently in Deltarune or because Flowey mistook his grief-induced depression for a symptom of SOULlessness is unclear.
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>>574991671
>>574992398
So because it hurt having your hopes crushed before that means we should never hope again?

Even if tomorrow brings sadness, we've been giving today to dream! So smile again, and let flowers of hope bloom in your heart.
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>>574992703
>Kris fears THIS
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>>574991853
>But there are people being rewarded by doing that
Yes, by their mentally ill echochamber.
>while I get punished for it
No if you went to your mentally ill echochamber you would be praised as stunning and brave. You are in a public form that doesn't enforce ideologies. So people will disagree with you.
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>>574992747
thats a really handsome kris and a pretty pretty noelle sauce
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>>574992703
>porn model
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fahaha kris why dont you fondle me anymore?
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>>574992271
Without me Kris can do nothing but glare as they turn green and inbetween before eventually expiring.
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>>574992661
tony's fox WILL let us give kris a kiss on the forehead and tuck them into bed at the end of chapter 6 as the vessel.
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>people think ch6 wont be the susie sleeps in castle town and shit gets crazy chapter
>noelle will appear in chapter 7 and say fahaha or something, but in the aborted weird route she'll say it without the f
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>>574992976
kris turns grey and super gay
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So since computers exist in Deltarune, that means Alan Turing existed, that means he probably worked on german encryption, that means WW2 happened, that means the atom bomb exist in deltarune.
what if on chapter 7, carol nukes hometown?
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>>574992976
he is turning grey, dumb fuck
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>>574993043
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>>574980145
I believe everything they wrote
Noelle is narratively designed to suffer and also die as proven by the weird route
Krusie vindication day (KV-day) soon
Krusie 1 million years success and future forever all time eternally
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>>574992016
Voting is funny because I come from a state where child marriage lost by 1 vote
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>>574992510
No, Toby. It's called Freedom motif just like how it's Snowgrave route. White Pen of Hope and all that.
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She's begging to get stepped on by Ralsei's paws, c'mon
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just gonna find a place to bury my post alive
have a great 'un
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>>574993118
Sorry Airwaves Motif and Side B is the best I can offer.
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>>574993071
Nope. It's green.
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I keep hearing this and I genuinely don't get what the fuck they mean by this. I understand most leftie takes but I can't wrap my head around this. What makes them think this?
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>>574993242
green and sucks my ween
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>>574992398
>aborted at 3 unique points in that process
People overestimate how much of an issue this is. Aborting pre-Berdly is basically just the same as a normal route playthrough where you missed some recruits, with one small exception if you picked threatening dialogue at the ferris wheel poster. Aborting at any point post-Berdly doesn't really require entirely separate routes for each point where you can quit, just one or two lines of dialogue acknowledging that Kris either lied to her or backed out at the last moment, otherwise she can have the same meltdown in both abort4 and abort5.
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>>574980145
I'm I gonna have to start going to tumblr for actual discussion on the game that doesn't turn into culture war non-sense?

What the hell?
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>>574993285
the noelle deflowering scene
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>>574993043
iunno man my hope bucks are running low and the darkness is starting to show....
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>>574993287
green and gangrene
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>>574992584
>How are you being punished?
If I wanted Ralsei to be a boy, I'm losing.
If someone wants Ralsei to be trans, they win.
I'm obliged to like Ralsei for reasons beyond their gender if I want to appreciate the character, these people do not, they are getting their fix and their wishes fulfilled even if their reading of the characer is superficial.
>and generally missing the point of what was said in the chapter.
They can be missing the point, but they are still happy despite missing the point, if Ralsei is trans exactly in the way they want him to be. Their behavior is being rewarded, regardless if it wasn't the intention. They can enjoy the game in the wrong way, I can't.
>Do you believe Toby should out a traditionally masculine fantasy hero in because it hurts your feelings that there isn't one?
Am I wrong for not being as entertained by a game when there are no characters that appeal to me anymore? Isn't that the whole point of representation?
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>>574993285
retarded woke enbys once again showing they view Kris as a man subconsciously. when the only people who cream themselves to the scene (besides chuds) are Lesbians
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>>574993285
>Hetronormative
umm did they just accidentally gender Kris? that's a lil problematic ngl
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Susie isn't safe.
Noelle already molested Susie's tail.
Hope she learns to say not and not let herself be raped because love or something.
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People’s expectations for Chapter 5 were pretty much universally edgy and retarded.
>evil fake white pen of hope in friend temple
>image_friend, devourer of souls creepypasta rape mastermind demon as secret boss
>asgore beating the shit out of his children to live in a delusion
>the roaring happens and everyone fucking DIES
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>>574993304
okay but, how is tricky tony supposed to tell WHEN you abort the weird route if there's only a flag for IF you abort it
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>>574992680
Chuds make a lot more sense when you remember their whole ideology is about weaponizing their mental illness and pretending the things they don't like don't exist
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>>574993285
>media literacy
Ignore everyone who writes this. Nobody who uses these two words is worth listening to.
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>>574993510
doesn't make the magical flower friends anime land singalong chapter any less shit
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>>574993493
that would be my room if I lived alone
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ralseis foot
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>>574993437
mfer the world is about to fucking end, you think ralsei is gonnaa have a yee yee ass cutscene about coming out???
that boy is trapped in the dark world anyway.
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IM GONNA USE MY SPECIAL TECHNIQUE
HYPER PUNISHMENT POST
TO BLOW MYSELF UP
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>>574993520
>weaponizing their mental illness
What, am I supposed to let it destroy me?
I am STRONG because of the rot in my mind. The world is shaped by those rotten enough to infect it too! It is POWER!
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>>574993612
>HOPES and DREAMS?
>JAPAN references?
>in MY deltarune that belongs to ME?
lol
lmao
Best chapter
Better than your favorite, easily
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>>574993654
Stranger things season 5
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Another episode of people want lorestimmies but it has to be Sonic.exe lorestimmies and not worldbuilding lorestimstims because loreyummies aren’t actually made equally (this is why smiling gagshit face has a fanbase)
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>>574993510
I suprised myself by kinda predicting some of the plot. I thought there'd be a fake Asriel that would make fun of Ralsei's insecurities, and I was almost right.
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>>574993510
I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.
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Everybody is going to applaud Ralsei when she comes out as translightner
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>>574993806
I think I agree with this but can you clarify what you mean
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>>574993594
But you used those words
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i just punched my transgender sister
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Does Flowery know that Kris's soul isn't theirs? It doesn't seem like he does. He talks about Kris is a sussy baka and everything but never brings up the Kris's soul controlling him.

But Ralsei knows that, and Ralsei and Flowery both seem to know pretty much the same things, the prophecy, the "rules" of the world etc. So why does Ralsei have this extra knowledge that Flowery doesn't?
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>>574993285
it’s a neat reading that produces so much good fanart but there’s way more going on than heterosexuality
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i should die
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>>574993728
>references
the entire chapter was Thing, Japan, if anything everything that wasn't Japanese was a reference
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>>574993806
Has anyone talked about how Lightner doesn’t mean “thing that lives in the Light World”? That it specifically seems to have to do with sapience and the ability to create fiction?
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>>574993654
Oh it will happen, Lost Girl will play and you will suffer through every damn second of it.
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>>574993285
the chapter 2 possessiveness into chapter 4 rose was read as metaphorical of heterosexual rape by a lot of people and not enough people have encountered the shattered rose title for kris so they remain entrenched in their flawed perspective. releasing chapter 5 in a separate chunk from 3 and 4 has destroyed popular understanding of the weird route
stuff like this is actually why i really like this piece of art, because while kris is never actually stated to be male ever in any official medium, kris is very often assigned male when used by the community in situations like this. the art piece only takes on its complete meaning when considered as commentary on the community, which i find very fascinating
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Ralsei being confused about the knight being so far in the past proves time travel and rudyknight by the way
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File deleted.
Its going to be a sad sad day when Tobert Fucks submits to the trans woke agenda and forcefully detransitions ralsei into being a girl to satiate the transbian mafia and turn a gay little boy into a girl they can ogle, grope, and salivate over. couldn't be me.
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>>574994000
no it won't kek. he's going to be revealed to be a titan or some shit
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>>574993515
There's a flag for Berdly being Snowgraved or not since that one Flowery bromide changes even if you aborted back in chapter 4. I'm sure there's some kind of flag he can use to check if you aborted in 4 or 5, but if not, I guess Noelle can just vaguepost during her meltdown.
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>>574993968
>thing, japan
What the fuck is this supposed to mean
Literally one of the worst memes to ever come out of Twitter
Why are you offended by the existence of Japan
Get over yourself you’re not cool
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Precious
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>chapter 5 is the last fun adventure
>last crystal, last everythin
>also we're gonna tell noelle
>but actually she wont show up somehow
>ch6 will be a fun adventure like the last chapter and nothing will happen
>what'll we do instead of the fun adventure?
>uh, nothing i guess
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>>574993642
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>>574994109
you seem a little upset.
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>>574994000
okay i know you guys are having a spat but i literally can't remember what lost girl sounds like right now
i remember what the findher accoustic guitar version sounds like but not the actual main version of it
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just remember it's the dishonesty and every other failing of your character that makes people want you again the end of a rope, not whatever identifying characteristics you feel most victimized by
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>>574994291
You seem a little bit retarded
We’re going to have to learn to live with each other
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>>574993654
All the galsei transtruthers believe Ralsei will stop everything tell Kris "kris umm I wanna be a princess all the time now" and now he goes by she and life is business as usual
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>>574994293
>i literally can't remember what lost girl sounds like right now
You lucky fuck.
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>>574993963
ANON YOU'RE HOLDING THE GUN THE WRONG WA-
>*gets shot*
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>>574993921
What should Flowery have said to us?
We can only meet him on the A side. So in that universe we are less evil than Kris.
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>>574994293
https://deltarune.com/dess/
click the guitar
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>>574994000
bruh, you're literally creating fictional scenraio on your head and you're wasting your energy on it.
ok but what if ralsei is actually asriel's used condom???
it's like got his dna and that's why he looks like him, but it's also a object for dicks and that's why he's such a cock muncher!!!
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>>574993921
Flowery has higher level knowledge than most Darkners because plants absorb all the meta darkness juice in the water supply, but it's piecemeal compared to Ralsei who is probably the embodiment of that meta juice or something like that.
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>>574993963
Whenever I feel this way I doodle.

I can't really draw but feel a horrible horrible horrible burning desire to create.

I'm supposed to be taking notes for Job Training but I spent all my time doodling DR crap.
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>>574993437
>If I wanted Ralsei to be a boy, I'm losing.
>If someone wants Ralsei to be trans, they win
Does everything exist as a measure of whether you or your perceived enemies are "winning?" If so what makes an author's intent to make their character trans or not so important that a whole legion of people need to crash out about it? Is the side that "loses" being punished on purpose or incidentally?
>I'm obliged to like Ralsei for reasons beyond their gender if I want to appreciate the character, these people do not
Who says they aren't? Why can't you appreciate a character despite their gender? If you read a whole book about your ideal hero to project onto and then at the end the narrator goes "oh btw he's black and gay" would you feel equally "betrayed?"
> they are getting their fix and their wishes fulfilled even if their reading of the characer is superficial
Okay so what makes your reading of the character LESS superficial by refusing the possibility that the story might go in that direction? What is not superficial about dropping your interest in a character that comes out as trans to the point that you are clearly bothered by the idea that it COULD happen even tho you said there's actually nothing there?
>Their behavior is being rewarded, regardless if it wasn't the intention. They can enjoy the game in the wrong way, I can't.
You are describing jealousy, you are jealous of the trannies you claim are ignorant and "wrong."
>Am I wrong for not being as entertained by a game when there are no characters that appeal to me anymore?
If you're appreciation of the work is so superficial that you can't enjoy it unless not only that it has to conform to the type of representation that makes you feel good but it also has to not even have a hint of representation for people that you don't like? Yes.
>Isn't that the whole point of representation?
Do you see representation as a matter of making people feel good? Why does seeing other people get that make you feel bad?
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>>574994109
The meme doesnt make dun of japan it makes fun of people that overblow things just because they're in japan
You know... weeaboos.
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>>574994293
It sounds like this: du du du dudu du du duuu, du du duuu, du du duuu
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>>574994441
:)
Thank you
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>>574994457
hey, my first ever doodle i posted here looked like these! high five!
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>>574994442
What even is this post?
>on your head
Nevermind. Opinion discarded.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKO6Frmkezw
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>>574994441
no like that was the version i just said i could remember
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>>574993075
you misspelled kris
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>>574994618
huh?
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How do you think weird route ralsei feels knowing you're freezing darkeners to death knowing he had fire magic in the back pocket the entire time?
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>>574994691
>okay what if transitioning makes Ralsei happier and he makes that choice?
>"SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UUUPPPP"
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>>574994523
Any kind of affection for something Japanese being met with
>Thing, Japan
Is xenophobic whether you want to admit it or not. You’re trying to enforce apathy and negativity about a culture that people like
Toby can have a Japanese setting in one of the Chapters in his game, piss off
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Does Ralsei actually know about us? I get the feeling a lot of the early game evidence people interpreted as his knowledge of the player could actually end up being recontextualized as just his vague understanding of the "angel" guiding Kris through their SOUL, and of Kris being the acting force in their party who will correctly understand what he means when he tells Kris to "press [X]" even though Ralsei himself doesn't get it
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>>574994820
He probably made peace with the prophecy and will turn Kris into Krisp when the time comes.
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>>574994851
I saw a youtube video comparing flowerys english lines to his japanese lines and like half of the japanese comments were literally like I feel embarrassed that japan is so favoured
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>>574994121
lovely boy indeed
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>>574994712
>the universal Kris detector
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>>574993520
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>>574994851
>Post, Japan
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>>574994851
You're really defensive over a simple criticism, lol
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>>574994823
You don't seem very happy with your life or your choices, anon.
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>Flowery saying don't worry about Kris the way Ralsei says don't worry about Darkners
>Flowery says Kris knows how he feels about him
>Kris takes the poisonous seeds
Fellas it's not looking good
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>>574994960
There are comics from the Undertale days about it being embarrassing to have references to the Japanese language in Undertale, not because they dislike it but because they tend temperamentally to be a more reserved and insular people
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>>574994823
how would that make him happier?
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>>574994851
It's not xenophobia to make fun of weebs for overrating things for coming from Japan or the "grass is greener" effect in general. Weebs who gas up seasonal fotm trash should be made fun of just like the chuds that obsess about how "tranime" is a Jewish psy op to "spread degeneracy in the west"
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>>574991671
>>574992398
Realistically, I think the way it'll go is
>You get to explore Castle Town at the start of the chapter and see all the shit that was made for Noelle
>You go to the Holiday mansion with Susie to recruit Noelle, but - plot twist - there's a Dark World inside
>Noelle gets captured by Quirk Miser and never joins your party
>Some bad shit happens but you get the guitar shelter code and then Susie is like "Okay but tomorrow for sure we're definitely gonna do something"
As cool as it would be for the aborted weird route to amount to something as substantial as changing how an entire chapter plays out, I really think it's just gonna be for the Twisted Sword, which I'm starting to doubt will have any major effect on the story either despite the Trance Down status. Plus, Noelle doing nothing or getting kidnapped like Undyne and Asgore would explain why 6 gets skipped in the weird route, if that's the ultimate fate of her character in the normal route.
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>>574995125
>Tap Z to stop Kris from committing suicide
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>>574994618
the ESL's post was reminding you that thinking about scenarios that might happen in the future and getting angry about them is actually a choice that people consciously decide to make, and that you can very easily make your life a lot brighter and happier if you are capable of recognizing that and making the choice to not worry over maybes and what-ifs when they aren't practically important and/or something you can take steps to mitigate (ie oh, a storm might roll in, i should check the weather to see if i should close my windows).
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do people actually think that ralsei is going to turn trans?
this has to be bait.
the people who thought of this are probably ill in the head, but whoever actually believes this baiting.
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>>574994851
>xenophobic
It's not and you have no proof for this.
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>>574994931
Ralsei knows about us but tries to play it cool and maintain plausible deniability. See he how reacts when you input musical notes before you should know them. He knows what's going on but pretends he doesn't
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>>574995086
It’s not a “criticism,” it’s a completely senseless gripe from those conditioned to dislike things social media tells them to dislike. It’s not an “opinion” worthy of respect. People who use Twitter for anything but art should be killed
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>>574994823
shitpost aside, there is a unfortunate implication/suggestion in this chapter that you should change your gender to be appealing to the person you love.
Which is fucked up even from a woke perspective
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>>574994960
I really don't get WHY toby felt the need to change his lines when the english version already perfectly fits the stereotypical 'american' male anime character vibe they were going for with flowery
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>>574995258
calm down and learn to accept reasonable opinions
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>>574994823
yes please shut up already trans shit is so exhausting
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>>574995102
Weird projection, but I'll add your screenshot to my collage of irrational responses
>>574995145
Why would being a femboy make him happy?
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>>574995227
It's just the time loopschizo
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>>574995219
I'm calm because I already accepted it will happen, ChatGPT.
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>>574995325
He’s been changing them since Jevil. Why would you fucking complain about him dubbing the game in another language, especially when he does such a good job
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>>574994851
It’s the spongebob rollercoaster problem where sharty-tier spergs get really assblasted as shit but try to convey it in ironic chungus meme format
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>>574995396
>Why would being a femboy make him happy?
because that's who he is?
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>>574995227
Ralsei allready is trans but the radical transbian mafia wants toby to detransition them so they can rape a young girl instead of a young boy
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Noelle isn't going to be at home she's going to be at the hospital
How do you people not understand that
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look at my wife
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>>574995349
You’re not reasonable.
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GRORIOUS NIPPON IS BEING OFFENDED
BANZAAAAI
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>>574995431
I wasn't complaining, i just thought it was a strange thing to do.
though flowery does have the stupid fucking "strawberry good!" pun in his jp lines, which is beautiful
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>>574995417
even the very wise cannot see all ends
>chatgpt
that thing has been a blight on every autistic overexplainer's life, the amount of times my writing has been called ai is frankly upsetting
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>>574995396
>no u
You lost.
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>>574995547
woah partner, who said anything about noelle?
that's a chapter 7 arc, we'll be getting 8 hours of susie castle town content and you're gonna LIKE it
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>>574995547
hosptial chuds gooning over their dry and drab dark world with nothing interesting aside from a dead boring bird maybe, like holiday manor is a better location for a dark world by far
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why does ralsei always get the “literally a child” treatment when he’s the same age as the fun gang and actual “kids” like lancer exist
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>>574995587
>it’s not xenophobia, guys!
>I’m just doing racial caricatures guys it’s normal I’m reasonable!
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>>574994491
>Is the side that "loses" being punished on purpose or incidentally?
The way you say this, I'm only losing because I don't like it. So I have no choice but to accept whatever happens and bow down to my head and conform to Toby Fox surprising me, no matter what he does, it will be good.
>Why can't you appreciate a character despite their gender?
But THEY can appreciate a character only because of their gender, why can't I?
I am not saying my reading on Ralsei isn't superficial. It is. I'm saying someone can also have a superficial reading, but they are being rewarded for their reading. I have to appreciate a character for deeper reasons, they don't. I also feel the same way for people who see Ralsei as nothing but a cum dumpster femboy they also project into, I think that's stupid as well.
>You are describing jealousy
It is wrong to feel jealously when bad behavior is rewarded?
>Do you see representation as a matter of making people feel good?
I believe representation is fundamentally a zero sum game. If a character's gender or appearance didn't matter, there was no reason to make it happen in the first place. Note, not an all or nothing game, a zero sum game. A character will be liked less or more to some degree for what they represent, it doesn't have to mean you either love or hate them with nothing in between.
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>>574995547
Susie wouldn't know that because Kris didn't tell her so they might still go to the Holiday house. Also if Rudy is straight up dying then he might be at home for hospice care.
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Wow, you guys suck.
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>>574995779
>>574995779
>>574995779
Hop on
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>>574995735
>same age as the fun gang
we have no idea how old ralsei is
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>>574995701
lmao if we didn't have chapter 2 you'd pretend nothing interesting could happen in the computer lab, too
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>>574995701
i agree that holiday manor would be better (and too much effort was put into it for it to not be revisited) but you lack creativity, people are born in and die in hospitals. pretty sure kris went to it for counseling, as well? there’s so much you can do with that
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>>574995248
There was a line in chapter 5's onsen scene if you give Ralsei a chance to speak up about Kris making dark fountains, about how Ralsei trusts Kris' judgement above his own because Kris' hands "know something his don't" (they were speaking in piano metaphor but you get the idea.) That in mind, I don't think we can rule out that Ralsei simply believes Kris is capable of divining the correct answers somehow (he could think it's the "angel's will" or something along those lines)
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you guys don't seem very happy
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>>574995740
Racial caricatures are epic tho.
Did you play the game?
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>>574995615
If it doesn't happen, great. If it happens, then I'll be ready to mute the game.
You might have a touch of 'tism if people keep calling you ai.
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>>574994823
That'd imply most trannies are happy with their life choices

You know, troons, the happiest demographic alive, of course
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I'd like to see a pedo try and kidnap Lancer, only to get trapped in the salsa log.
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>>574990065
Yes but UT doesn't leave you so out in the cold, it may not give you the full answer but we actually have foundation for expectations to subvert (Asgore) or follow through on (Flowey). The conflict feels more real as the underground references things like the barrier, Asgore, Flowey, human monster war, etc. We're at Climax and do we really know more than we did in Ch2? Sure we got some panels, a helmet(?), Asgore knows something, some calamari and a crystal pointing to sushi, and?
>But the GASTER and EGGs and MANCOUNTRY and...
And? They're just as empty and the universe cares so little for these it could be confused for a Starfield POI. Toby had to patch in dialogue about FRIENDs because Normal NPC actually had more recognizable impact than ERAM's kitties. We have no direction for the knight, mostly stumbling towards debatable info that no one actually cares about. UT gave you more actions to recognize, you could trust what people said more (yes, Flowey is more trustworthy than Ralsei, I'll believe him regaling tales about tormenting Ebott more than Ralsei saying he doesn't fear me). UT didn't need to wait until True Lab for 90% of the game to make sense, or to even begin the idea of making some sense of things.

>DR Apathy (random shower thoughts)
Maybe this is the weirdest thing for me. Sure not every darkners/lightner needs to talk about all the mysteries but no one even bothering to reference any of em? They're just happy for Armageddon to come to pass, light and dark? Dess left nothing of impact to the small town? No graffiti no one wants to clean up, her songs being so shit no one wants to even hum them? A police officer that went fully MIA before a huge (in theory) public festival and nothing but Napstablook not on duty? Will admit to being an Amerimutt here since Hometown doesn't seem to follow american stereotypes.
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>>574995912
Italian isn’t a race, and this isn’t a mean-spirited caricature
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>>574995947
yeah being trans is such a miserable experience. you have to live a lie for the rest of your life and spend your life relying on strangers to go along with it. it’s miserable and that’s why the leading cause of death for them, even after stuff like ffs and srs, is suicide
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>>574996006
he's too heavy and covered in slime to get kidnapped
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>>574995287
I love when chuds pull the "umm not very woke" act it's like when a 5 year old thinks theyve found a "gotcha" for bedtime
>>574995351
You can give up your tranny obsession whenever you want it'll be healthy for you
>>574995412
>everyone I don't like is one person
lmao also it's time loop FAG this is a series about time travel and my predictions are sound
>>574995480
>because that's who he is?
Okay so if he started being a more traditionally masculine male would that not be who he is either? Is the self immutable? What about pursuing transition would stop "Ralsei" from being "Ralsei?"
>>574995629
Cope etc, concession accepted
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>>574995735
He's 5 days old
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>>574996349
Wow you are super salty.
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>>574996076
Ok goyjin, continue serving your master race.
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Japan was on the same side of WWII as Germany.
You know the side that invaded the only nation to have homosexuality be legal on the planet, and the one that opposed Communism.
Japan currently has privatized healthcare, doesn't allow homosexuals to marry or adopt children and has strong anti-immigrant tendencies.
I have no idea why anyone on the left with any principles would defend Japan.
I'm just so tired of this, why are politics in a videogame thread, and why are people's politcal positions always internally inconsistent.
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>>574996981
What is that act logo?
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>>574996625
And a little sprinkle of anti-semitism, too.
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>>574996349
what does he get from becoming a girl? would having a pussy make that much of a difference to him?
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>>574996746
The Japanese can't help it, it's not their fault they're just naturally immoral. Everyone knows being moral is exclusive to being white.
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i jerked off so hard to does my dick is sore and burns

fave said with a pained look, hunched over on their chair.
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>>574997285
freedom from the prophecy calling him a prince
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>>574999375
If this is true, Ralsei is an entitled whiny faggot.
He's already free, especially with his identity. He decided to become Whitesei.
Kris and Susie are less free with their identity than Ralsei.



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