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Cadian Edition

>Total War: WARHAMMER 40,000 - Alpha Strike Livestream: Ranged Combat:
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>TWW3- WHAT'S NEXT - Update 9.0 & The Lords of the End Times:
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Previous Thread: >>574993260

TQ: How do we feel about the first big reveal of gameplay for TW:40k? Hyped or disappointed?
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the gameplay looked better than expected but the baneblade looked like it performed a little too well for a game where they said they wanted to have infinite ammo and de-emphasize single entities
how will titans be balanced? these niggas will just take over like a quarter of the battlefield just standing there
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>TQ: How do we feel about the first big reveal of gameplay for TW:40k? Hyped or disappointed?
High tier units actually feel like high tier units, already a plus
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Didn't watch.
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explains a lot of posts actually
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>>575059827
The tactical gameplay looks good enough to buy so far.
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Thanquol soon, friends!
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>>575059853
This
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>>575059827
The reserve system sounds pretty good on paper and hopefully it makes lower tier units and skirmishers have more use in the long run
Weapon loadouts are a godsend
Army buffs/stratagems being tied to voxcast units/commanders is kinda neat
Orbital bombardments are flavorful but already bullshit. That one laser basically one-shot what's supposed to be the orkz' strongest unit
I fear they're learning too much from fantasy's aggressive powercreep. I need to see proper campaign gameplay but it doesn't sound very promising
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>TQ
It looked mid, not as bad as I feared but neither as good as I hoped, which doesn't exactly inspire confidence given CA's history of making games look godly in the build ups. Most interested in the campaign tho, let's see
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>>575059693
Getting rid of ammo is a godsend, no longer will auto-resolve give a fuck about ammo.
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>>575059693
>how will titans be balanced?
I am skeptical we'll ever go any bigger than Knights.
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>>575059693
>>575061391
>"We really wanted to put the biggest thing that we could get away with in a Total War game. We are looking at putting bigger things later down the line of course, but this will be the biggest thing we've had in a Total War."
I think in due time we'll get Titans which will be pretty cool
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>>575061391
The stompa shown is already a small titan and significantly larger than the most common imperial knights. A questoris is about halfway between the showcased stompa and deff dreds in size.
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>>575059693
>a quarter if the battlefield
They aren't that big. A titan has some 50m height and takes up roughly 30x18m space. That's about the footprint of 4 land raiders. You telling me 4 tanks would take up the quarter of a battlefield? We playing in tiny boxes now?
In the world of mechs, a titan is so small that a Jaeger like Gipsy Danger could walk over, pick the titan up and hurl it through an entire city.
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I like how they confirmed there will be very strong single units but didn't bring up this guy

But I get it, the stream wasn't about this dude or LLs
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>>575061856
>>575062292
There's a big difference between Knight-scale and Titan-scale, and frankly the balance is an issue because a lot of factions do not even have Knight-scale equivalents let alone Titans. Let's say they add Genestealer Cults to the game. How the fuck are they supposed to be balanced against Titans? Epic scale 40k is dead for a reason.
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Rework soon, friends!
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>>575062561
Same way skavenslaves can kill Tyrion. By giving the slaves some weapon strength and numbers.
It's not that complicated. HP pools eventually go down and it dies.
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>>575062561
A stompa is about the size of a warhound. And with that in mind I'd say even an imperator at that scale could comfortably play around on the teaser map.
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>>575062749
THERE WILL BE A BRETONNIA REWORK
SQUIRE WILL MARRY A CUTE ELF WOMAN AND HAVE MANY HALF-ELF CHILDREN
THE LADY WILLS IT!
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But will Crisis Suits be able to fly?
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>>575064034
I think they're just going to be doing assault jumps like the storm boys.
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>>575064034
why would the crysis suit be able to fly?
I don't get it
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Total War Warhammer 3 will forever remain as a half-baked, unfinished mess, a monument to the unborn magnum opus. 6 years, and they fucked it up right at the finish line.

Hope Hyenas was worth it.
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>Got to see more stormboyz footage today
It was a good day
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>>575064387
because these are anime crysis suits
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>>575064397
That unborn Magnum Opus will be 40k... A price to pay..
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I have a question as a noob regarding the Empire in battle specifically.

I see a lot of Empire campaigns where they spam missile infantry and artillery but every time I try it my missile units get fucked by a couple bat swarms, dire wolves, light cav etc.

When I try to use heroes to tank up front they get ignored by the enemy infantry and/or the flankers and flyers. Spearmen with shield are unironically giving me the best results but they break super fucking fast and I feel like an idiot dedicating several army slots to a tier 1 unit. yet when I play dwarfs and use this strategy they hold longer and take less damage.

Same thing when I play Gelt. I recruit every wizard type into his army then fill the rest with gunners or archers, but the wizards always get bonked in melee and I never have enough magic to utilize them since I mostly spam Gelt's searing doom.

Where does their cav fit into all of this? I saw videos about Knights of the black rose being a viable frontline but won't they eat a ton of friendly fire? It just seems like they have crummy internal balancing. Even halberdiers feel like a waste since they have no shields and also break pretty fast. It's dissapointing how all of their melee infantry are overshadowed. Feels like I'm playing Total War: Union vs Confederacy when I pick the empire.
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>>575062945
It's gonna feel real weird killing Titans with autopistols and hand flamers
>>575063081
>And with that in mind I'd say even an imperator at that scale could comfortably play around on the teaser map.
I shudder to imagine how annoying it will be to try and micro units to target enemies standing underneath the titan
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I really don't like Napoleonic-line-infantry Guardsmen blocks.
No one else seems to care.
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>>575064873
>I really don't like Napoleonic-line-infantry Guardsmen blocks.
I'm not sure what you expected. There's entire regiments styled after line infantry and trench fighters.
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>>575064707
>Feels like I'm playing Total War: Union vs Confederacy when I pick the empire.
The Confederates may have faired better if they had a line of unbreakable Zealots that fight until the die
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>>575065040
Yeah but the tone aesthetic of the ASTRA MILITARUM (lol no one's ever going to call them that) is WW1, which is well beyond line infantry tactics. Trench fighters yes, but they shouldn't be standing shoulder to shoulder in neat lines. They look fine with how they sort themselves in cover, but out in the open it just looks stupid.
I mean there's absolutely no squad/platoon/etc formation at all, just a sea of random dudes standing in straight lines. That's not how it's meant to be. They could AT LEAST just not be in strict lines shoulder to shoulder, give them light infantry style organisation at least.
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>>575065040
Love how uppity fags like you act like an alternative is inconceivable, as if the last 20 years of 40K games didn't have guardsmen fighting in loose formations
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>>575064873
Because I fully expected the imperial guard to be fighting in dense blocks unless broken up by cover.
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>>575064747
That's what it's gonna be. We already have random peasants killing huge dragons, dinosaurs, half gods and whatnot.
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why is there no savage orc warboss lord?
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>>575059693
Either many turns to build siege weapon or defensive building, it appears off to one side of the map past the boundries and attacks on it's own for the entire duration of the battle or until it gets disabled by artillery fire (huge health pool)
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>>575065281
>They could AT LEAST just not be in strict lines shoulder to shoulder, give them light infantry style organisation at least.
Maybe you'll get your wish if they want to communicate some types of units are relatively undisciplined or disorganized, like penal battalions. For Guard you stand in the line or you get shot.
>>575065379
Love how whiny fags like you expect Total War to not function like Total War.
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So when is Alpha Strike : Fog of War?
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>>575065782
>For Guard you stand in the line or you get shot.
That isn't true though, the IG are portrayed as considering men disposable, yeah, but they're never portrayed as being totally tactically retarded to the point where they would just stand in tight shoulder to shoulder blocks of easy targets when crossing open ground. They have a chain of command with some autonomy down to the individual level, and do actually win wars. It just seems entirely bizarre that they would stand like this on an open battlefield.
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>>575066708
>but they're never portrayed as being totally tactically retarded to the point where they would just stand in tight shoulder to shoulder blocks of easy targets when crossing open ground
You are wrong, multiple regiments are in fact known for doing exactly that.
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>>575066998
That's funny because that isn't the regiment in the game
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>be hyped about total war 40k
>reinstall rome 2 to scratch total war itch
>lose interest after a single battle
I just kinda realized that there's no depth to these games, there's literally no point other than watching battles. There arent any naval battles in the 40k game so the strategy will be non existent, just randomly fighting over planets. Might as well just do custom battles. I'm sad now.

CA has really just innovated nothing over 20 years of their company and in most ways other than graphics, devolved. It will still sell well because of 40k but I don't see the game retaining interest. It doesnt even have more than 4 factions they are just going to milk paypiggies over a decade selling bells and whistles for a repetitive garbage game
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>>575067056
You made a general statement about the imperial guard.
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>>575067156
You're right. I'll do better next time.
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>>575065782
I expect the game to reflect the IP not your blatantly false notion guardsmen fight like napoleonic line infantry, stop spreading this retarded fucking lie
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>>575067374
>I expect the game to reflect the IP
You're gonna have to make peace with the fact GW is going to take a long series of shits on your notion of it. They've done it to everyone else already.
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>>575067374
There is more media showing large numbers of imperial guard moving and fighting in dense formations than otherwise.
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>>575062561
Man, 54m is so much smaller than it appears. Actually 54m is just kind of modest in general next to some Super Robots.
Total War in SRW universe when?
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>>575067374
>thou art unaware
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>>575064707
you keep the cav off to the sides to charge anything that looks like it'll make it to your gunline. The AI tries to avoid friendly fire so whatever the cav fights will probably last a while if friendly units block the guns line-of-sight but if there's more enemy units they'll probably try to envelop your cav which will let you shoot them. Most magic lores also have a "hang-in-there" spell you can cast on the cav to make it not instantly die in most cases.
>It's dissapointing how all of their melee infantry are overshadowed
Empire melee is meant to suck. They're just dudes in a world of 8ft tall Orks, Lizardmen, and Chaos Champions. You can also just wait until the next DLC. Empire fans couldn't be satisfied having better cav than the cav factions and better artillery than the artillery factions, so CA is giving them Chosen (Empire).
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>>575067102
I give it two weeks after release before the consensus becomes "it's boring" and "dlc will fix it"
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>>575068162
Imagine it's as bad as starfield. It's over levels will hit maximum
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So how do we feel about LLs on the release?
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>>575068307
the difference is 40k paypigs already seem at peace with the prospect of it being bad and featureless on release, content being withheld and sold later as DLC actually excites them, they're going to support it no matter what
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>>575068374
Sanguinor for space marines
Jokaero leader for the guards
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>>575068374
no complaints here, both Ork LLs are cool
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>>575068857
I mean isnt their tabletop game literally just meaningless battles over and over so it makes sense that they wouldnt care. I dont know if youre right about people being okay without having their army on release though, i bet a lot of people will wait until theirs is in the game like tyranids/necrons/sisters and of course chaos chads
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>>575068374
Both the Orks are cool
Calgar is cool enough for the base game, I guess... They can't really give us Titus or Gulliman as base game LLs I guess
Yarrick is VERY cool
Is Creed confirmed?
Why are reddit adamant that it's Creed?
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Interesting to see that the baneblade used in the battle has one pair of sponson batteries while the baneblade used in the demonstrations is a much less often depicted variant with two pairs of sponson batteries.
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>>575062550
ghazghkull thraka can lead other units
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>>575068954
*kool
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>>575068374
Pretty awful. I guess the black muhreen dude looks kinda interesting. He reminds me of Arbaal.
They could have at least put the force commander of the blood ravens in.
The color designs are horrendous too... blue yellow, blue yellow, blue gold, yellow.. atrocious.
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>>575069567
>The color designs are horrendous too... blue yellow, blue yellow, blue gold, yellow.. atrocious.
Welcome to 40k!
Dudes in colors.. and more colors.. and some colors!
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>>575068374
Black Templars are dlc
Prince Yriel and Eldar Corsairs are dlc
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>>575065506
CA hates me in particular that's why.
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>One of the big expansions
>Garleyman and his wife
Would CA do it?
Would GW even let them?

The implications...
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>>575069293
>Why are reddit adamant that it's Creed?
1. It's a woman.
2. She's Cadian.
3. Who else? Leontus?
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>>575069562
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>>575068374
the guy from space marines 2 looks cool
no idea who the rest of those literally who clowns are though
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Are greenskins fun to play or are they just too outdated in wh3
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>>575069661
I'm aware.. but why must they always choose the uglies?
I'm looking at space marine chapters rn and while 95% are ugly as all hell, there are some cool ones. This bronze n black marine looks really nice.
Why are orks in 40k ALWAYS colored in baby diarrhea and puke? Always with these eye melting bright yellows and greens. There must have been a better ... whatever the equivalent of a chapter for orks is.
And I just noticed, outside of yellow blue yellow blue yel.. the others are.. black red black red black red black red.
Dude..
This sucks.
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>>575069880
They already felt like ass to fight against old dwarfs now imagine trying to shoot down a thooondabarge with night goblin archerz.
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>>575068374
>>575068954
>Ghazghkull
>Ghazghkull only a bit smaller
I'm not disappointed in Nazdreg but I would have preferred the second lord be something different for gameplay variety, not just another warboss in mega armour. Bad Moons are just Gofffs in yellow.
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>>575068374
I don't see Black Templars on launch when they are such an easy DLC to sell that would also require a lot of work to model and skin. More likely Imperial Fists because they are more standard and generic looking, so less work, while being a 1st founding chapter and having a decent enough fanbase.
>Eldar
I think we already saw Macha, so it's likely Eldrad of Ulthwe and Macha of Biel-Tan
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>>575069293
>>575069793
>Why are reddit adamant that it's Creed?
Yes, there are few places where they can put women in 40k. They will make sure to use those places. 2nd Eldar and Guard LL has to be a woman, since Marines and Orks can't be
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>>575070582
They have different guns
Easy gimmick would be to make Ghazghkull solo entity and Nazdreg with bodyguards
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>>575070083
Thumbnail looks like a gremlin toy with its head popped off.
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>>575070582
Aren't goffs melee focused and bad moons gun focused?
Something like deathskulls would be cool though.
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>>575070109
skill issue
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>30 seconds after you ally the Eldar during your IG campaign
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>>575070821
One day they'll unnerf lil' waaagh
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>KINO Lords in Dark Heresy
>KINO Lords will be one of the DLCs
KINO INCOMING
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>>575071048
if Eldar women just want human men and Eldar men just want human women how are those morons ever going to repopulate their empire???
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>>575071048
2x *we're, not were
3x missing "we"
I really hate the monkey nonsense in these comics. How the fuck would an eldar even know a monkey?
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>>575059509
Big losers whose planet blew up in the OP
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>>575071196
the amount of humans and eldar that actually ever interact with each other is minuscule
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>>575071257
They would know just like somebody had the ancient Earth entertainment relics required to name their son Obiwan Clousseau.
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>>575071257
monk'eigh doesn't actually mean monkey, it's just an insult that happens to sound like monkey
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>>575065281
>>575067374
>>575065379
>>575064873
>guardfag surprised the guard doesn't behave like his epic youtuber loremaster told him they do
>thinks "canon" is being "broken"
lmao
Sorry guardie, if you want epic Operators Operating Operationally with modern military tactics the T'au are right there!
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>>575071402
>Stupid mon-keighs put masks on and stayed 6ft a part of each other for a few months for some reason
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>>575071329
My mango is to blow up my planet and act like I dont know it did
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>>575071539
or just recruit kasrkin like the stream showed
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>>575071257
40k used to be 20x more of a parody than it is now so the monkeigh term was basically a gag. It's intentionally stupid
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>>575071558
>anti-masker
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>>575071856
>t. wearing a mask in his house while he's alone sleeping in 2026
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what's even the point of dawn of war 4 now?
the rough total war 40k alpha gameplay already looks better than the curated vertical slices of gameplay trailers we got for dow4
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>>575071937
Think of grandma anon!
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>>575071539
Just post the sexy T'au women, T'au propagandist
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>>575071986
Dawn of War has Necrons and AdMech
Total war won't have either of them for at least 5 years
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>>575071986
It's the opposite tho? DoW4 looks way better than the scuffed shit we just saw on stream
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>>575068374
Myeah never going to touch C*dians
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>>575072164
Dawn of war 4 doesn't look any better than 3 at this point.
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>>575071986
Can't get enough of this doro creature.
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>>575072259
It looks better than 3 but worse than 2 & 1, same applies to TW40K
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>Yawn of War 4 sent out to die already because of BIG CA COCK
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home..
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>>575072164
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>>575072336
humanity's greatest achievements
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That makes me wonder...
How does a Chosen of Khorne (fantasy) do against a Chosen of Khorne (40k)
The fantasy one dominates, doesn't he.
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>>575071986
What was it that 2 very similar games WOULDNT eat each other to pieces?
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>>575072762
>would a guy with an axe win or the guy with an axe and a gun?
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>>575070083
>Always with these eye melting bright yellows
you dont get the flash
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>>575072762
Yes.
Because space warrior is a marine and they are known sissies
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>>575071986
well it's an actual game that you play instead of just watch like total war
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We could have gotten Star Wars...
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>>575072998
thank god we didn't
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>>575071986
I want to kill and eat every doro
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>>575072375
what's with these retarded companies releasing games without tyranids or chaos? I'm glad this shit is going to fail because of their greedy asses assuming they could milk dlc for years
>>575072998
>Finn legendary lord
wow we missed out
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>>575071986
you can actually build a base, like a real rts
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>>575072998
>Star Wars with Disney using it as a marketing tool for their modern shit
lmao
no way
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>>575072998
Would have been too KINO for Creative Slopsembly to handle
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so why was the khorne update just evil lizardmen? Oxyotl and Tehenhauin specifically
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>>575072918
>gun
So not a real follower of khorne, just a pussy. I want a real khorne chosen.
>>575072959
apparently they are
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This is gonna be fun.
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>>575073237
daemons of khorne use guns in fantasy
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>>575073340
Is this the efficient skarbrand army? can you gib tips?

t. newfag
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>>575073386
where's your soul artillery guy you need a couple of them
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>>575073349
The only I know are soul grinder which are belakor's retarded design and the skull cannons which are chaos dwarf made machines. Khorne didn't make those. Even in the soul grinder, the demon chooses to become a soul grinder and be reforged. Khorne has no hand in that as far as I know.
>>575073386
Most people run 18 bloodletter. That's peak efficiency but it will be really boring eventually.
I always get some cav or monster to do my microing with cause the bloodletters just play moshpit while the bloodreaper on his shrine buffs them to 140MA.
The best cav you can giv Skarbrand are soul grinder but I did that last campaign so now I grabbed these boys.
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>>575070583
>I think we already saw Macha, so it's likely Eldrad of Ulthwe and Macha of Biel-Tan
I don't believe in two Farseer LLs at launch.
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>>575073512
>skull cannons which are chaos dwarf made machines
skull cannons aren't made by chaos dwarfs, they are created in khorne's realm by daemons of khorne you poser
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will these be in tw40k?
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>tfw cant leave a negative review because I was vac banned for cheating in counterstrike
go on.... without me
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>>575073848
The juggernauts are chaos dwarven made so why would the other machines suddenly be magic?
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>>575073849
Probably eventually.
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>>575073907
chaos dwarfs don't make his juggernauts either
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>the more I learn about how battle mechanics the more I like
>the more I learn about how the campaign mechanics the more I dislike
I suppose I shouldn't worry too much, the game will need at lead 2-3 faction DLCs before it's properly up to snuff and more in-depth campaigns can be done by modders if nothing else.
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>>575074129
Yes they do. They make the Juggernauts which is why the Juggernauts in 40k are retarded nonsense cause without the chaos dwarfs the juggernauts can't exist.
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>>575074178
go on then and present a source stating the chaos dwarfs produce juggernauts
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>>575074318
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>>575074178
are you confusing hell cannons and skull cannons?
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>>575074468
>one little known theory dismissed as patent nonsense
>that actually just indicates hashut was a daemon of khorne more than anything
so it was your headcanon that you inferred from a theory you misread?
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>>575074518
No but kinda.. since the chaos dwarfs make hell cannons and juggernauts, they might as well make the skull cannons cause those are machines. Khorne isn't a smith. I never saw any text describing how shrines and cannons are made for khorne besides the lies in 40k where they just appear out of nowhere.. but 40k lore is all lies and bullshit.
So I'm making an educated guess on the skull cannons.
>>575074557
reading comprehension 0/10.
The 2nd part is the equivalent of a Witch Hunter going
>no such thing as human sized rats exist
It's lore fluff.
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>>575074705
nigga, take less of whatever you're taking or more
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>>575074827
Pure blood and rage, that's what I'm taking.
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Remember that one anon who kept trying to force Troy discussion a couple years back?
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>>575074705
someone with reading comprehension would be able to see it's merely an unpopular theory
someone that actually knows about daemons would be aware that each god has one or more steeds that are themselves daemons created by their patron god, this is why their entire body is banished back to the warp when they die, chaos dwarf daemon engines merely have the daemon unbound from the body which is left behind in the material world when they die
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How campaign workie? Why humies fight beakies?
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>>575075182
I have text suggesting the chaos dwarfs made the machines. You don't have anything saying they didn't. If only one theory exists and seems plausible, it's the truth until a better theory is made.
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>>575075430
your theory is disproven by the fact that juggernauts are banished back to the warp whole when they die and chaos dwarf daemon engines do not have their body banished
you don't know how daemons or daemon engines work and that's why you concocted incorrect headcanon
chaos dwarfs never made juggernauts, read more carefully and learn
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>>575075738
Well ofc, they are fused with a demon soul. A soul grinder also goes back to chaos realms even tho it's metal.
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>>575075738
Hold the phone..
>warp
Am I debating with a 40tranny?
Oh hell nah.. fuck off
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>>575075854
juggernauts go back to the warp whole because they are daemons, not daemon engines
the daemon is bound to a daemon engine and only the daemon is banished
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>>575076208
Nah bro, u exposed yourself by saying warp. I'm going back to my campaign. Go paint ur muhreens in pink and blue.
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>>575073097
so is dawn of war 2 not a real rts then?
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>>575076286
you build bases in dow2, retard-kun
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>>575076239
the warp is an in-universe name for the realm of chaos in warhammer fantasy so you're wrong about that too
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>>575076239
NTA, but the corrupted polar gates are explicitly referred to as warp gates
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>>575076424
still trying?
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>>575076489
Like I give a fuck. When someone speaks of Warp I can reek that axe wound from a mile away.
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When do you think we'll start getting the 30k Primarchs?
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I can't wait till 40k releases and I'm playing my 8888th Skarbrand campaign. I'll talk so much shit, especially about their lore.
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>>575076490
>man who is proven wrong ragequits and then is proven wrong a second time
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>>575073097
Palworld confirmed for REAL RTS.
Palworld WON.
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>>575076750
I never said that it's not called the warp. I said only 40k tranners use the term warp, anon sama.
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what if they added a horse to warhammer?
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>>575076785
>only 40k tranners use a warhammer fantasy name to refer to something in warhammer fantasy
retard
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>>575076848
Yes.
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>>575076820
nani desu ka
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>>575075430
seems like you don't even know what the word theory means
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Who would win?
Who's cooler?
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>>575077378
I know Chaos Dwarfs make Juggernauts. In my mind I am always correct unless disproven.
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>>575062749
NON!
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>he thinks they fixed the line of sight issues
oh no no no
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>>575077410
right looks like a pompous twat. left needs two huge grenade launchers and constant power metal playing wherever he goes
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>>575077187
あの馬、脚めっちゃクソ変な形してるな
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>>575077410
Literal who Vs SKARBRAND THE EXILED ONE
Bring 10 of those literal whos and maybe they can dent Skarbrand's armor a little.
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>>575077442
you were disproven
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>>575074146
They haven't said shit about campaign mechanics though. As of now all we know is that you can have multiple sizes for your campaign.
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>>575077378
>>575077442
Consulting the Chorf unit list, Chorf constructs like Hellcannons and K'daai have the Warp-Spawned special rules but not Daemonic. Juggernauts of Khorne are explicitly Daemonic and have the Daemon of Khorne rule. I take that to mean Juggernauts are not Daemon Engines.
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>>575077664
I chose when I am disproven or not and what I read was nonsense. Thus, I stay in the right.
>>575077690
No idea what that means.
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>>575077690
now, this is the proper way to theorise. anon is correct (again), passnigger is a gay retard (again)
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who is the most fun Bret LL? Feel like doing some cav games
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>>575077731
>I chose when I am disproven or not and what I read was nonsense
you mean the theory dismissed as patent nonsense
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LL for this feel?
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>>575077830
definitally the fay. though i like repanse's angry screeching, great va work. leon is boring, alberic is suffering
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Next he's going to say chaos dwarfs make discs of tzeentch.
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>>575077983
they also make penitent engines only real warhammer scholars know that
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>>575077909
Surely it's one of them Cathay oriental ladies when they up in one of those fancy hot air balloons, innit
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>>575077983
You can either have some dogshit back-alley(maze) disc cobbled together by Pedro'lozzaz Sanchantz or you get QUALITY Dawi-Zharr craftsmanship at just 4.9% APR.
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>>575077983
That's nonsense. The wiki doesn't say that.
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>>575078343
The wiki doesn't say they make skullcannons either.
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>>575078490
That's an educated guess because I'm smart.
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>>575076208
these big units are so cool but they get regularly destroyed by skavenslingers cus everything hits them no matter what

sad
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>>575078515
yeah. i hate how the best way to play these is to make a doomstack and blob them
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>>575078514
You are perhaps the dumbest person to frequent this general.
Even dumber than frogposters.
If being too stupid was illegal you would have been aborted due to your clear mental defects.
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>>575078514
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>>575078669
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>>575077913
huh interesting. Looking at her bonuses and no knight vows I would expect her to be worst cav LL.

Btw how do you do sieges with cav army?
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>>575078669
>>575078697
I never claimed I was smart.
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WAit I did just a few minutes ago.
I forgot.
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>>575078834
have some trebuchets with you and autoresolve
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>>575078669
nigga just hide pass users and responses to them
this threads schizo at least is kind enough to brand themselves, they've literally never made a single post worth reading
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>>575077617
it's an alien horse or something, sometimes they are cyborg alien horses
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>>575077983
I dont think Bird arms are strong to forge steel to a disc shape though...ever
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>>575062749
>>575063547
Why won't you download the mod?
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>>575078834
It depends heavily on the quality of your cavalry.
If your cavalry is good enough you can just kill the defenders at the gates as they try to stop you.
Otherwise you're going to need to do some sort of hero/lord trickery or wait them out.
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>>575079032
which one?
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>>575079041
god damn
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>>575064397
I dunno. I don't think it's awful like it was in release, but what I could really do without is all the shit mechanics being injected towards the end of the series. Mods can fix quite a bit, but she needs to be left alone to heal. Make your end times dlc and be done with it
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>>575079168
royal hippomanii goes hard
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>>575078958
He posts without the pass anyway.
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>>575079263
Big fan of hippogryphs.
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>>575079264
Damn.... the passfag could be any one of us....
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>>575079407
maybe it's you? oh shit, what if it's me? AHHHHH
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Is this supposred to be Guan Yu or someshit?
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>>575079572
He's actually Guilliman.
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>>575079572
I'm not sure what to say.
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>>575079572
Jackie Chan
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@pass nigga nora fawn cosplayed ingrid pog
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Eldar are fully playable, they're just holding on to showcase them.
They play REALLY different, marines play kinda different as well, IG and Orks are for people already used to Total War.
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>>575080605
>are for people already used to Total War.
hey........................ that's me!!
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>>575080605
>factions are le....different
oh my fucking god
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>>575080754
Train your reading comprehension.
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>>575080541
I just replied to it >>575080878
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>>575080754
Not on historical games
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How are we thinking about Q1 2027 for a full release lads?

Sega currently has Stranger than Heaven in Jan, Persona 4 Revival in Feb, TW40k would slot in nicely right before the ending of the Japanese FY where companies try to release their shit. Sega, Capcom and SE are known to just shoehorn all their big releases during the first quarter
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>>575081784
probably doable, since there's already a playable build in gamescom n shit, 7-8 months to release sounds the most realistic
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>>575064873
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What would their victory conditions be?
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>>575077410
It's actually Angron, but the passfag won't like it and he's an obnoxious moron so don't let him read this post.
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>Imperial Guard
>no transports
KWAB
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>>575070583
>Macha of Biel-Tan
NTA
I think I'm retarded, since I thought Macha was just someone Relic made up for DoW and then was thrown into the ether, never to be seen again
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>>575082848
She is, Macha, Gabriel and basically every DoW character were made up by Relic for DoW only.

They've just transcended in relevancy enough that other 40k works reference them sometimes. Like how the Blood Ravens were in Space Marine. Basically the same as how Total War Warhammer references the Ubersreik 5.
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>>575083082
Interesting. I would be very surprised to see Macha as an LL in Total War though
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doesn't dawn of war have a copyright on macha or something
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>>575083082
Is this the same as John Warhammer?
This nigga is everywhere in 40k now
Minis, books, cinematics all from a videogame
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>>575082848
All characters that appear in games technically belong to GW so they can canonize them at any time.
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Would we rather Sisters of Silence or Sisters of Battle first?
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>>575082848
>and then was thrown into the ether, never to be seen again
They're named in Codex: Space Marines 4th Edition, apparently
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>>575083550
Sisters of Battle.
SoS are just an auxiliary unit for Custodes, and I don't much care for Custodes. While I want my bolter bitches sooner than later.
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>>575068374
Black Templars are 100% DLC material (like Blood Agels / Dark Angels / Space Wolves and maybe Deatwatch).
The second Space Marine faction should be a more generic Chapter with just enough difference to offer gameplay distinct from the Ultramarines, but without any real possibility of DLC.
I believe the Raven Guard is probably the best candidate right now because their Chapter Master go a brand new model.
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>>575083082
The blood ravens were in space marine because it was made by relic. But now relic isn't even doing dawn of war and the new guys can use blood ravens and their characters just fine. If CA wanted to put some dow characters in total war and the new dow team isn't using them then I'm sure no one is going to raise a fuss
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>>575083373
>>575083659
Interesting, so there is a chance Macha or other characters from DoW might show up if GW feels like it
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>>575083742
The first SM DLC will 100% be Dark Angels. That's the only high effort chapter where you have to make a ton of new models.
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For the Empire, are archdiacre and warrior priests popular? I really love them, but I feel like I'm the only person who does.
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>>575083847
There is, it'd just be a first. But it's basically up to GW and their unfathomable business acumen.
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>>575083847
Cyrus got added to 40k: Tacticus so I'm entirely certain it's not a problem
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>>575083950
Blood Ravens hooked up with the big boys(Dark Angels) in DoW4 so you can be sure they will be in TW40k too.
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>>575083945
I don't care that much for archlectors, I'll recruit them sometimes just for variety's sake but eh. But I do basically shove warrior priests into every single proper stack I make. They're the replenishment hero and can put in decent work on the frontline.
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Modern 40k feels soulless. Hate to use the term but I'm not sure how else to put it. It feels like the tonal difference between AoS and Fantasy, only 40k rather than being outright replaced was silently morphed over the years into a bland multimedia project. Everything has this smoothness to it
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>>575073849
Those are just Wraithknights, the Eldars equivalent to Stompa / Knights.
So they are probably in game yeah.
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>>575084270
I love warrior priests because from how much I used them in custom battles, they can get even halberdiers to hold the line against Chaos Warriors.

Also what the fuck, when did fa/tg/uys invade?
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>>575083659
>4th edtion
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I fucking hate Tau so much.

Btw are we gonna be able to do exterminatus in the game?
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>>575064873
IG are literally WWI
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>>575084281
>Modern 40k feels soulless
Man, American education is really pathetic. Just use real words instead of vague plebbit buzzwords.
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>>575084408
>they can get even halberdiers to hold the line against Chaos Warriors.
Yeah, they're a fantastic way to reinforce the Empire frontline and make them actually hold out against elite infantry.

>Also what the fuck, when did fa/tg/uys invade?
Well, you know... Total War 40k announcements and videos probably have that effect.
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>>575083742
Also if they go with Raven Guard (and asssuming they are still doing Legendary Heroes / secondary characters) the RG has Shrike ready to be used.
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>>575084671
They said you can but it was never shown. It's supposed to be a huge blow to your resources.
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>>575084729
No, you cretin. Learn what "literally" means.
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>>575083945
I never use Heroes as the Empire (wasting one slot for more canons or hangunners) and always use the General or Master-Engineer as Lords.
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>>575084748
>Yeah, they're a fantastic way to reinforce the Empire frontline and make them actually hold out against elite infantry.
Damn straight. To that regard, they're even better than Cathay. I like Cathay with their magistrate, general, and war drums, but the warrior priests... are a pain to level up, but the right man, at the right place, at the right time, and make or unmake an entire campaign.
And fuck sake, now they're being obnoxious. /twg/ has been bad for a while, with no way to get any discussion about 3K or Shogun 2 going because of Warhammer fantasy, and now 40k, the grimderp retarded little brother, also invited itself in.
I hate 40k, it's so grimdark it loops back into grimderp territory
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>>575083742
Just to piggyback off you I'm gonna go ahead and say iyanden is dlc material as well. I would switch them out for alaitoc
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>>575083742
I know they're definitely going to use Creed's shitty daughter but I wish they fucking wouldn't.
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>>575085037
...?
Are they all left-handed?

>>575084967
You cannot win as the Empire only with gunpowder and steel. You also need discipline.
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>>575084732
>>575084852
you impress us all with your literacy
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>>575084852
Sorry.
The Imperial Guard are quite literally World War I.
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>>575085229
Ha, anti-intellectualism.
The weapon of the uneducated ghetto sheeple seething at its natural betters.
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Yellow tracer bolts are better than red beams.
There were always female Custodes.
Creed's daughter is cooler than Creed.
Astra Militarum infantry always fought like Napoleonic line infantry.
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>>575085365
you forgot the era indomitus or whatever retcon where they fucked with the timeline after realizing it was retarded
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>>575085486
The storm of chaos, where they tried to retcon Failbaddon the Armless's failures into successes?
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>>575073849
"The Stompa is the biggest unit they have ever made for a Total War game, but they may eventually introduce even bigger ones in the future."
But there is no bigger models than a Stompa in GW "regular range", you have to go for FW Titan models.
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>>575085037
Speaking of warrior priests and archlectors, here, have a cool screenshot I once took of my archlector in charge of defending the mountain forts.

Shame it was when CA did that big beta build experiment so it's got the "Development in progress" line up there.
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>>575083865
>The copycat legion
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>>575085646
...unf.
That is insanely cool.

Now I remember when daring to dream of that kind of scenery for a game was but a wet dream.
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>>575085521
I think he means the Dark Imperium trilogy of books
They were originally set 100 years after the Indomitus Crusade, but pretty soon after their release a second edition of them was published where the events of the Plague Wars (which the trilogy is about) were changed to happen 12 years into the Indomitus Crusade at the end of its first phase
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>>575070583
>>575082848
Biel Tan could get some throwaway pity character release to go along with Exodites, similar to how Nazdreg got it. Like pic related from 8th Edition. It's Autarch and she is female. Perfect contrast to Eldrad from Ulthwe. Perfect fit for Total War, much better than Macha. Especially since Iyanden would get a female Psyker as well - Iyanna Arienal a Spiritseer
>>575072998
Actually I can see Star Wars happening as a minor SAGA like game like 20 years from now, after TW:WW2. They do have basis for it now
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Poor frog lost her home and will die next turn ;_;

>>575085136
>Are they all left-handed?
I am lefthanded and the pic is not how I would hold a polearm
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>>575085791
Urgh. This is why I never really got into Warhammer books, they constantly retcon each others.

>>575085898
I'm right-handed, but I hold a bow with my right hand, and if I were to hold a polearm, I'd have my main hand above my submissive, breedable hand.
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>>575085791
>>575085521
>>575086134
Didn't they say that there's now official timey-wimey fuckery so all new books take place during a very brief window where it's impossible for it all to fit?
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>>575085646
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>>575086323
Neat, thanks!
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>>575086134
>they constantly retcon each others
It's quite rare all things considered, at least to the extent of the Dark Imperium trilogy. Usually only really happens when changes or additions are done on a larger scale, like how Skitarii are depicted before and after AdMech got their army
The novels are usually entertaining enough ways to kill some time, and they're generally not as bad as people make them out to be.
>>575086265
Don't recall them saying that. Part of the reason they changed when Dark Imperium happens was so that they could write stories that happen during the Indomitus Crusade without having to make sure their stories wouln't contradict or affect something that's supposed to happen 100 years from now
They've also mostly dropped giving exact dates for when things happen as well, which sometimes makes it interesting to read how someone like Calgar manages to be in multiple places in what appears to be a pretty short amount of time
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>>575068374
the LL for the guard will be a black women created by CA
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Can't CA just cancel ET and release 40k instead.
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>>575086745
Nonsense, GW does just fine making strong black women characters themselves
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>>575068374
>>575086745
IG LL should be named John Saldin who goes renegade in the Steel Legion DLC
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/51Co0AvV/dark-imperium-godblight-sees-guilliman-and-mortarion-clash-at-last-and-we-got-the-author-to-spill-the-beans/
>WarCom: Now that the timeline of the Dark Imperium story has changed, what was it like revisiting the earlier books?
>Guy: It was interesting in a technical sort of way, but I reckon here would be a good place to lay out exactly what has changed, and why. I get asked about this all the time, so can’t say it often enough! The main change is that the story has moved from c.120 years after the Great Rift opening to c.12. It now takes place after the first phase of the Indomitus Crusade, which we’re currently writing about in Dawn of Fire, rather than at the very end. In the original Dark Imperium, I made a big show of Guilliman disbanding the last formations of the Unnumbered Sons (the Greyshields, informally). That all still happens, but for more overt political reasons. Guilliman has been forming up Primaris into new chapters right from the start, and sending them off to be reinforcements, but there were still quite a lot of them left in these huge, somewhat hypocritical, legion-sized formations. He has to get rid of them. Their utility is being outgrown by the political damage they cause.
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>>575087284
> In the new editions, the Triumph of Raukos marks the end of these formations instead of the end of the crusade. Throughout both books there were minor tweaks to bring these things into line. As you’d expect, there are far more alterations to Dark Imperium than to Plague War. One big advantage of this was that I was able to introduce lots of things that we’ve been talking about or will be talking about in Dawn of Fire. In Godblight, we meet an older Fabian Guelphrain, for example, and there are little nods and easter eggs throughout. I also polished up the writing, which is something I did to satisfy my own writer’s vanity. That was personally satisfying. So, in short, the changes are extensive, but not profound. If you’ve read the original editions of Dark Imperium and Plague War and pick up Godblight, so long as you bear in mind the time alteration, you’ll be fine. However, I do recommend the new editions. The result is that you’ll be able to read Dawn of Fire, then this trilogy, and get one humdinger of a story that neatly segues into… Well, that would be telling, wouldn’t it?
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>>575086265
I think Guilliman mention something about it after His return, like the Adeptus Chronos fucked up their time keeping and they might already be in the 42 millennium
being post-pr*mar*s drek one can safely ignore it
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>>575087264
Saladin exist and he is Tau.
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>>575083945
>Archlectors and warrior priests
>I really love them, but I feel like I'm the only person who does.
I love them too. They're cool and it's fun to build thematic armies around them.
Just wish they got their grand prayers, and especially soulfire/soulfire a bit earlier to get more use out of them.
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>>575068374
It wont be yriel, milk and cookies was being a moron here
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I think we know enough about battles
With gamescom and even more battles coming I hope they do an alpha strike:campaign in september
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>>575088238
Damn straight.
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>>575086815
ET is their way of shutting up fantasyfags
>Oh you wanted nagash, thanquol and neferata?
>Take this and shut the fuck up
Expect no more wh3 dlc this year
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>>575088917
Joke's on you, I wasn't expecting any more dlc this year anyway.
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>>575088676
They talked about ranged in battles.
There's still movement/transportation , artillery, melee, unit customizations.
This game is fucking big.
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Space Marines RAPING Eldar at gamescom
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>>575088917
>Expect no more wh3 dlc this year
No shit sherlock, DLC is not releasing before at least September.
Then the CA staff is going on their three-month-long winter vacation (leaving us with a bugged 9.0.87).
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>>575089119
>artillery
Its spells
>melee
I see no evidence of melee being significantly revamped
>customization
could be in the campaign video

Transports can be answered in a question desu
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>>575089634
>>575089029
Let me rephrase it
Expect no further wh3 dlc until September next year at the least
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>>575089981
>Egrimm never ever because of 40kfags
brehs..
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>>575089119
We know a lot about battles now, faction specifics aside, and the transport question
We still have very little information regarding campaigns
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>>575089736
Artillery isn't spells, it's off map like planes and orbitals.
Artillery
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>>575090085
Campaigns are going to be huge, especially if they tie into the lore

And all the narrative stuff they said they'll do

KINO I say

Will suck cocks if we get horus campaigns in 8 years
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>>575090169
Black arks then
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>>575090309
We literally saw IG artillery art already dude.
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>>575089119
>transportation
will probably work like units in napoleon that can mount and dismount horses
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>>575088917
Nigger at this point I don't want anymore dlc
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anyone playing warhamme 3 on linux, does it run well? youtube results are so old.
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>>575090825
Some people are never satisfied tho
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>>575090986
i mean it runs well enough but it (and the mac os version) are always slow to get updates

if you own the game on steam, you can't creamapi it to get all the free dlc (or at least it's not as easy)

if you're on steam, launch it with proton and creamapi all the dlc
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>>575090986
Sadly the only good linux ports for CA games are when they give it to other companies to do.
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Game actually looks promising. I am cautiously optimistic even though every company involved has done nothing but rape and disappoint
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>>575092070
tfw no Sugimoto and Asirpa-inspired Imperial Guard legendary lord and hero combo
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>>575092164
that's dlc for Shogun 3 (coming 2056)
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Imagine if you can customize your Chapter to make them Blood Raven.
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Gonna make /twg/ lads.... what are our colors?
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>>575092383
Why would anyone want to play a meme chapter?
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>>575092383
>Presses sack on
>EVERY
>SINGLE
>SETTLEMENT
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Will /twg/ be sovlful enough to create it's own dudewall? https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/
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>>575092651
Pastel pink, purple and blue
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>>575093716
Kino thanks.. Wait a minute...
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>>575093606
Depends on how extensive the customization is
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>>575071168
is he like luthor harkon tier or worse mentally
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>>575071168
He doesn't exist in 40k. He will never be added to the game.
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>>575092070
I am, like, 70% optimistic
I just need two things now
1) See average people playing the game (gamescom will solve that)
2) Confirm that the campaign isnt total ass
The reason im hopeful is because they are willing to do a public free beta, takes confidence in your product to do that
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>>575094326
He's not even schizophrenic, he's just a poser.
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>>575095023
boo!
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>>575095023
Luthor is a normal person compared to Konrad.
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>>575095176
Luthor is like 20 people
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i love the night lords so much
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There is no way that they keep the infinite ammo system.
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Uhhh, what happens if 40k gets released and this general pretty much stops talking about fantasy?
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>>575096745
Probably not, the sub 60 IQ retards will bitch and moan while not even understanding what the implications of adding ammo to a game like 40k will be and so we'll end up with a worse product at the end of the day.
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Who's the coolest Chaos rep?
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>>575097568
Doomrider
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>>575096745
I hope they wont budge over this
Ammo management in 40k would be dumb as fuck
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>>575096990
Its the life cycle of products
Histochads know this well, but fantasy fags cant fucking let go it seems
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>>575096990
/vst/ awaits
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>>575095669
Edgy batman larping faggots.
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>Imperial Fists
>Raven Guard
>Salamanders
Second marine LL will be from one of those
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>i don't like edge and larping
>warhammer 40k
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>>575097908
I think Ammo could work maybe for Marines, so they run out of bullets for their Bolters and then have to fight in melee
But for most factions it's like Mass Effect and dreaded ammo clips
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>>575096745
Of course they will. 40keks don't actually give a shit about tactical depth
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>>575072998
>Star Wars
Dead franchise.
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can anyone please explain to me how to play Aislinn? I am low IQ
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>>575099449
You play as a ship and ships function only in the water.
If you touch land then you ship wrecks and the campaign is failed.
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Until the Orks get a facelift to become like the Ironjawz I don't see a reason to play anything but Tau.
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>>575099605
so you're not going to play until 2038 when the Tau dlc comes out?
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>>575096990
So what? We will talk about future TW settings (TOW / LoTR / GoT / Genshin / Kuroinu ~ kedakaki Seijo Wa Hakudaku Ni Somaru) and be called "off-topic" by non-believers, as usual.
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Which 40K factions are the most immune to political/culture war schizo larpers?
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>>575100193
Orks and Votann
B4 someone mentions them, Tyranids get compared to Spaceship trooper bugpoating and "white women fuck beasts", ratfag/beastfag rape shit
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>Boot up TWW3 after god knows how long
>Ranged units still occasionally bug out and run to the far off corners of the map unless you spam backspace to cancel the order you never gave them
What the fuck is this?
I thought it was skirmisher mode at first, but it happens even without that setting on.
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>>575099605
Literally no one cares about Tau. The least played xenos that have nothing interesting going on for them.
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>>575100193
trick question
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second LL is going to be him, Cato Sicarius, for he, Cato Sicarius, is the greatest space marine champion to ever champion the cause of space marines
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>>575100458
then why do i want to fuck them
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>>575100562
Approach me, Sicarius, that I may advise you on combat matters...
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>>575100657
No one cares what you want.
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>>575100193
By some twist of fate Genestealer Cults, which is funny because they are simultaneously ethnonationalist but also peasant rebels against an authoritarian regime. They somehow appeal to both extremes without being preachy or gay about it. Whoever wrote the lore for them had a great sense of dark humor and it shows.
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>>575100854
then why do they draw pictures of them naked for me to look at
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>>575100365
if you buy Votann you are making several political statements
>i am a goycattle slave
>all my money pledged to israel
>i am sexually attracted to warwick davis
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>>575101109
No, you're just a fantasy drawfag that was spamming GW for at least 15 years to add a equivalent of your pet fantasy faction to space.
Just like skavenfags who seemingly aren't gonna get their wish, no matter how much fanart they pump out.
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>>575059509
>guard OP
You're going to trigger that one anon
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>>575100458
I do, and I'm not Odysseus. Imperial Guard have a basilisk, Tau have three basilisks on their back and then two miniguns for good measure. Also they have armored cores. No one else in 40k is as cool as them.
>But le Black Templars are cool!
Larpiest of larp factions.
>But the Orks are the biggest and meanest!
Call me when they get some propa boyz and not a bunch of hunchbacked gits. I want real fucking Goffs.
>But the Dark Eldar
Are pretty cool but they'll probably have a boring playstyle in total war.
>But the Sisters Of Battle
Are really cool but dangerously high on the larp scale.
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>>575101573
OOPS! Forgot to attach a picture of my face to my post.
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>>575101573
>No one else in 40k is as cool as them.
Look at this smug son of a bitch and say that again.
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>I champion generic npc enemy faction and then cry about lack of content
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>>575099812
I see nipples
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>>575071168
Like the other dude said he died in 30k so he is not in 40k. Night Lords are still around but not as a legion, they are fractured.

I'm not sure to what point any of that matters to CA. For instance in fantasy they just had lords that died in different times running around anyway. So who knows what's going to happen in this game.
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>>575101958
Watch GW not allowing CA to release anything that doesnt have a mini
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>>575101958
Nothing in that post implies the anon thought Konrad Curze would be in the game. You're just addicted to "erm ackshually" because you're autistic retards with no social skills like every warhammer fan
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>>575101573
>I'm not Odysseus
sounds like something Odysseus would say
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>>575101897
A setting is only as good as its villains. If the villains stop being good the setting dies.
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>>575101780
Call me when you have cathedral tanks.
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>>575102156
nonsense
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>>575101958
>For instance in fantasy they just had lords that died in different times running around anyway.
name 3 examples
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>>575062550
>>575070664
You're not getting your solo retard sweetie
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>>575102119
Holy melty dude, what are you throwing a tantrum for? I'm just having a conversation.

I'm not sure if they could still bring Konrad anyway, I guess they could or depends on how Nazi GW is going on them like the other anon said. If they don't, then Night Lords could be a subfaction of CSM if they bring in a LL DLC or FLC for it down the line for one of the leaders of one of the fractured Night Lords divisions currently in activity, but none of them strikes me as too noteworthy.

If you don't want to have a conversation about things related to the game you can always not reply, instead of throwing tantrums like a baby.
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There needs to be transports otherwise dark eldar lose half their identity (using boats to crash into melee)
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>>575100806
>Calgar:
"Crush the Xenos until it yields."
>Guilliman
"Plow the Xenos untils she yields"
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>>575102468
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>>575102076
That would be a shame because this guy would be a really cool LL and he doesn't have a mini.
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>>575102656
It'll be introduced with their update while being treated like it's brand new tech like the chariot-mounted heavy infantry was in pharaoh seapeople
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5000000000000000000 years of lasgun beam color arguments
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>>575096990
>>575096990

I think /TWG/ is quickly becoming another 40k cesspool. Go look at the /40kg/ on /tg/ to see how bad (probably worse) things are going to get
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>>575102076
Watch GW releasing mini just so CA can produce more DLC.
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>>575102818
you're retarded if you don't know this is an obvious centerpiece daemon primarch model reveal. nu gw doesn't allow art to depict anything that isn't for sale
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>>575102976
I mean how long can it possibly take to make a mini?
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>>575102976
that's a lot of oversized mechadendrites to paint
even the artist didn't want to draw them all
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>>575103116
the process of shrinking the marines to be 1 inch tall is very slow.
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>>575102976
>nu gw doesn't allow art to depict anything that isn't for sale
They do, you are living under the rock. Their autism about art only matching minis 1:1 lasted only for like half of 8th edition. By 9th it was lifted, let alone now is long gone
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>>575102965
I can see it
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>>575102259
Out of the top of my head, Vlad died like half a century before Karl Franz was born.

Skaven only live for like 20 years so Skaven lords like Queek were unlikely to have been in activity at the same time as quite a few others.
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>>575103606
all of those guys are killteam units in some internal document
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lasguns beams are red
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>>575103606
These rando minor aliens look cool af
Wish they were more explored
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>fantasy gets fucked forever while 40gay gets all the attention and resources
>again
i love that 40gay is so much more detailed and polished than fantasy
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>>575102259
NTA, but Azhag was long dead by the End Times and he's wearing Nagash's crown.
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>>575103837
exploded *
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>>575103803
false
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>>575101573
You overdosed on soi.
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>>575103803
They will be in my game anyway
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I wanna see a young guardsman succeed and win the heart of an Eldar milf.
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>>575104375
Black Templar fan I take it?
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>>575104506
that would be like a capuchin monkey winning a womans heart over at the zoo and having sex with her
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I’m going to say it.
I like the Ultramarines.
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Your reaction when a single Imperial Guard Basilisk is enough to win an entire siege battle.
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>>575104461
Ogre lifestyle
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I'm really pissed about TW40k.. not because I want a new game and we get that trash.. because I wanna keep playing WH3 but my faggot irl mates will ask me to play it with them and I have to pretend I give a fuck about space trannies.. which is their fav faction.
But they are noobs. They'll wanna play on normal so I can just AR everything and sit afk.
Gonna play in 480p so I can play actual vidya while they have fun dilating the AI.
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>>575103860
It's a new engine after all.
The potential for a new fantasy game in this engine is pretty nice, also the potential for M3.
I think SEGA whipped CA into shape after the Hyenas stuff.
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>>575104832
t.
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>>575104931
>give everyone infinite ammo
>siege battles consist of a guard player sitting in the corner with a battery of basilisk for 50 minutes until the entire enemy garrison is dead
riveting
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>>575105037
>it's real
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>>575105329
>Gets a gigantic Rok on their head.
>Eldar *teleports behind you*
>SM *drop pods inside you*
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>>575103860
Fantasy got over 10 years of attention
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>>575105610
thanks for beta-testing
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>>575103860
dafuq do you mean "again" dumbass
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>>575103860
Fantasy is more than complete and STILL getting updates, stop being a faggot, it's one of the biggest games ever made.
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>>575105698
did you forget that GW killed the entire setting because it wasn't selling and then remade it to be a saturday morning cartoon mickey mouse version of 40k but with swords? they only brought it back because of total war.
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>>575105037
>>575105739
when does warhammer 3 get the new engine and mechanics?
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run man-things! run!
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>>575105329
Are you just baiting about the ammo thing or is it actually a big deal to you?
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>>575105834
but that's tabletop/GW shit and has nothing to do with total war
TW warhammer got tons of love, what would really save TW warhammer is an engine rewrite, but CA will never do that
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>>575105469
I thought this was Balthasar Gelt until I saw the Ash Vampire
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>>575105329
First of all, we dont know if walls are even a thing in tw40k. I hope to god they give up on trying walled sieges
Second, plenty of ways to fuck enemy artillery 30 km away
Third new visibility mechanics means you have to be actually seeing your enemy to shoot it
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Maybe I'm too skeptical but just because it's a new engine I'm not automatically writing it down as better. In fact precisely because it's a new engine by CA I'm expecting a bit of a shitshow at the start. Or maybe a lot of a shitshow.
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>>575106086
>Maybe I'm too skeptical
no such thing
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>>575104506
A degen Corsair whore is the best we can do for the lad.
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for melee combat will 40k still have anti-large, anti-infantry concepts
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>>575106053
>Second, plenty of ways to fuck enemy artillery 30 km away
More on that, if deep strike is going to be anything like tabletop, a lot of factions would have units that can come in from reserves essentially like the skaven can summon-unburrow units right under enemy artillery. It wouldn't be right under in this case but close enough.

As for walls, I'm not too savvy but it's my understand most "settlements" wouldn't have too much in the way of walls. Hive cities probably wouldn't. Random settlements when you're taking an agri world probably wouldn't. So on. But stuff in a fortress world might have some made of a material that is not easily exploded, but at this point I'm just guessing.
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Watch the nidders having a system like skaven undercities they can build in enemy worlds with their genestealers.
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>>575103693
Vlad is a vampire. Dying and coming back is his thing.

Queek died during End Times. While we are not at End Times yet we are pretty close

>>575103925
he died few years before End Times. He didnt get the crown from Nagash during End Times
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>>575106645
I hope not
I want genestealers to be their own faction, they have plenty of cool units
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>>575105469
fire and war
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>>575105469
the post M2 modding scene is pathetic compared to what once was
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>>575106649
I could look it up but I don't care enough, but what are the odds that queek, snikch, ikit, skrolk, throt, tretch & co. were all alive during the same timespam? Considering how short lived skaven are.
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>>575105469
You’ll get Starfield Total War and you’ll be happy.
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>>575106789
Okay then watch the genestealer cults having a system like skaven undercities they can build in enemy worlds.
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>>575106829
my OST for playing morrowind in TES TW
https://youtu.be/QgOCaqgzpmM
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Mmm. Rape is good
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>>575107162
Fallout Total War is unironically more likely now
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>>575107332
I'd sooner have warcraft total war than fallout.
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>>575107230
prefer the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7cN7x35qJQ
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>>575107487
you already have that
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>>575106993
>I could look it up but I don't care enough, but what are the odds that queek, snikch, ikit, skrolk, throt, tretch & co. were all alive during the same timespam? Considering how short lived skaven are.

I mean all these are active during End Times.
Also warpstone also prolongs skaven life
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>>575107609
Because endtimes just brings everyone back. Total War Warhammer is not on endtimes. Yet. Will be soon.
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>>575107606
No I don't.
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>>575107487
Modern Warcraft is maybe the worst setting in the entire world.
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>>575107571
genocide all non-dun mer with azura
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>>575107907
Star wars still exists
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>>575106271
Think we'll have to wait for the melee livestream, we just got the ranged one.
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>>575107956
thought these were tau sluts for a second
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>>575108017
>melee
no such thing exists Gue'vesa
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>>575108136
SEX WITH ALL BLUE WOMEN
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>>575108009
Star Wars is terrible too but Warcraft is worse
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>>575107956
what's Azura's fucking problem anyway?
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>>575108308
What makes warcraft so bad? It has a great setting for total war. Different kingdoms of dwarf, elves, orcs, humans. All with their own infantry, artillery, monsters, so on. Territories.
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>>575108389
her people are retarded but she loves them
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>>575108450
um blizzard bad ok
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>>575059509
>TQ: How do we feel about the first big reveal of gameplay for TW:40k?
I need to know how the pathing works in complex environments. As it stands, in tww3, a unit cannot turn a sharp corner in a siege map, without turning into a conga-line, meaning that if you want to have a unit navigate efficiently, you have to manually turn corners for them in a 2-part move order.
Looking at the orks blobbing on a tank, the single entity problem will remain, and lower entity units will continue to dominate. Will need to see how it further develops though.
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>>575108009
star wars be like
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ERZPMsUtSHc
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the only time warcraft was ever cool was when arthas was on screen.
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>>575108450
Nothings bad about it. Certain people are just mad because Blizzard supports social justice.
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>>575108389
She just wants to be worshipped n loved and the non dark elves hate daedra worship so she prob hates them
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>>575106649
Dying and coming back was his thing I believe because of a ring(?) that was stolen by an imperial thief and then later destroyed which is how he was killed.

Or something along these lines. I did read the novel in question but it was a long time ago and I have alzheimer's.
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>>575108798
are you a tourist from /tg/ here because of the 40k news?
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>See you pathetic doomposters? Total war CAN work for the 40k setting
>Except for ammunition
>And we can't have an immortal empires map
>And we can't have ship battles

What's next? I can't recruit anymore? I have to use the given army for the campaign?
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>>575108450
Warhammer fans will forever hate Warcraft because it's based off Warhammer fantasy and yet it ended up being infinitely more successful as a property, but modern warcraft is pozzed asf that's true
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>>575079761
Boring and forgettable?
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>>575108927
all vampires can come back.

His ring just speeds it up like real fast. He could die one day and second day be back.
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>>575109081
i think it's perfectly reasonable to like warcraft the game and hate warcraft the franchise
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>>575109040
>we can't have ship battles
Not interested in the bait but that did spark a curiosity. Are there total war games with actual ship battles?
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>>575068374
I hate that this is going to be an antithesis to /yourdudes/ game, since you probably won't be able to craft your own lord with armor pieces, and a LL is going to be arbitrarily better than a generic choice. Same thing has been a thing on TT for a good portion of the wargame's lifespan now.
>all major factions run an epic hero
>even generic marines are better with Roboute Guilliman
Mods will fix it, I guess, but it depends if CA is retarded enough or not to make TWW40k an always online live service thing like helldivers.
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>>575109328
yes and they are total shit like you'd expect
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>>575109312
Well he never did after that. Not counting end times because end times. I do not remember if they did anything to his body after they killed him absent ring.
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>>575109040
People asking for ammunition in 40k should be shot
This isn't a melee focused game retards, ranged will be the baseline melee the exception
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>>575108450
It's just gay as fuck with an atrocious aesthetic
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>>575109445
40k hasn't been a /yourdudes/ game in like 2 decades
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i'll concede that red lasguns were never "canon" but the yellow ones just look like machineguns firing bullets in motion
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>>575109445
How is that different than how it is right now in Total Warhammer? Not like you can give Karl Franz a spear, at least not in the actual gameplay.
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>>575109328
>this is the grade of poster we have in these threads now
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>>575109040
But those can be in, they simply decided otherwise
Especially with map. It was shit theme park in TWW, so they chose to improve scale. There was nothing stopping them from making Terra 5 turns away from Eye of Terror, which could be conquered in a single turn, just like Altdorf is like 5 turns away from Sylvania and call fall in a single turn as well.
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>>575110024
They were though
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luv me outriders
get fuckin fucked monster
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>>575109881
Depends on the faction. And further down depends on the army you're building. Necrons can be very heavily melee focused with destroyer cults or very heavily ranged focused.
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>have FIVE armies in gaul
>finally chilling with DEI post carthage
steamrolling barbs as Rome usually does
>Epirus invade out of nowhere
SCUUUUUUUUUM FILTHH
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>>575109893
>it's gay as fuck
Very compelling argument. Well constructed and really explains what you're actually talking about.
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>>575110024
>he yellow ones just look like machineguns firing bullets in motion
Yeah it's pretty hard to differentiate between lasgun fire and solid projective weaponry
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>>575110019
I know, I've seen it happen. Shit still sucks.
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>>575109445
You explicitly will be. You can see it happening in trailer even, it focused on your custom literally who Captain changing gear from battle to battle. On custom lords at least.
LLs will be locked in, for sure. Can't think they will allow you to have Calgar without his unique Gauntlets or Yriel without his Eye of Wrath and Spear of Twilight
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>>575068374
Glub shitto the setting
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>>575108450
Have you been in a coma since 2006
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>>575110401
I hope the customization is not just your OC faction leader, but lords/heroes as well. So I can have a gang of my guys
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>>575109040
This has to be the most retarded post I've read here.
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none of you fags actually play the games you just larp and autoresovle.
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>>575110336
you don't have to pretend heartstone looks cool just because you had fun playing the rts as a kid unc
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>>575108450
Just like Starcraft it mogged warhammer in every way. And this makes grognards mad.
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If you thought 40k was good on release would you admit it to /twg/?
Be honest.
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>>575109328
>Telling the truth is bait now.
>>575109881
>40k is not a melee centric game
Now that's bait. Because fuck all the factions that actually use melee right? >>575110149
And it would have been kino but GW decided no and you cucks took it
>>575110676
With this game you're going to see a lot more
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>>575110024
>I want 40k to be less WW1 and more Star Wars
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>>575110734
Do you have an actual argument? Can you actually explain what is wrong or do you just emptily toss shit and buzzwords and expects that to build an argument for you? Actually, the answer is already clear considering I gave you more than enough opportunity to actually say something meaningful to back up your point of view, and you didn't.

Feel free to reply so you can have the last word, goodbye.
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>>575110024
At least the beam part WAS canon, but yes I wasn't expecting this to be as bad as it is for readability of what's shooting what and when.
But I suppose it makes sense when I think of darktide. It's extremely easy to see what friendly and enemy lasguns are doing but not the autoguns, and the new lasguns in TW40K look exactly like autoguns firing.
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>>575110202
Every faction can be melee focused if you're retarded enough.
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I'm looking forward to the Bretonnia rework.
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>>575110943
Star Wars had it right thoughever. Blue Green Red all look better than yellow
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>>575110828
Well I'm probably going to buy it on release and how else would people interpret me posting about me playing it on release anyway?
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LL (Calgar / Yarrick etc etc ..) will be linked to some theater-of-war / warzone (like Armageddon), outside of them (the "Helldrivers 2 map") you play you own dudes with you own customized army.
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>>575110336
You can't tell me you actually like those goofy fucking pauldrons that everyone has
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>>575110770
>grognards
hey thats the made up reddit word /tg/ trannies use when someone doesn't buy plastic black people. you can really tell who's a regular here and who's only here for the 40k news
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>>575111273
>pauldrons
So just like Warhammer
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>>575110943
>and more Star Wars
But in star wars everyone's using guns that fire neon bolts of energy at each other?
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Wait, are you saying they’re supposed to be firing lasers in the gameplay video?
I thought it was all bullets.
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>>575111418
Most of the guard are equipped with lasguns.
That's apparently what lasguns look like now according to GW.
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>Guard are humans but feel more like skaven, swarming everyone else with waves of expendable human chaff
>Marines feel like like warriors of chaos full of super elite moving refrigerators.
>Orkz are orcs
>Eldar are elves
Where will I get THE EMPIRE experience now? Do I seriously need to get ratpilled for Guard or wait for Sisters of Battle to get my faith, steel and gunpowder?
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>>575111418
Lasguns are far more common than bullets in grave future of the near sixmillion.
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The beam color discussion feels pretty forced I can't see how is that supposed to be so important.
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>>575111145
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>>575111553
Guard will play almost identically to Empire
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>>575111619
you're not schizo enough
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I hope (You) are going to buy the Funko Pop
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>>575111642
try this scheme *rapes her*
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>>575111553
Imperial agents maybe. And Sisters of Battle like you said might have some similarities.
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>>575111619
It's been one of the most visually striking features of imperial guard in combat in motion media for about 20 years now and it got replaced by what are effectively tracer bullets.
It's like if suddenly for some reason disney decided blaster bolts in star wars were invisible or lightsaber blades looked like they were made of solid steel.
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Sloppamachines will take all the hardware.
So NO ONE will be able to play 40k.
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wh3 had ammo mechanics. I even use a mod that simulates the need to resupply ammo somewhat. Meaning TCACALLUKBI will have dumbed down fantasy.

Now I can be the hisfag grog who larps as having skill! BACK IN MY DAY!
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for me? med 3
my favorite unit? spearmanii no 7
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>>575111619
I think 90% of the time it is forced, 8% is people who genuinely feel like not having red beams is a loss, and 2% is people who'll seethe at anything GW does anyway
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>>575112061
>wh3 had ammo mechanics.
Every Total War game has ammo mechanics
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>>575111553
Death Korps
>German flavored Guard
>Beeg mutant horses to charge with
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>>575111553
>waves of expendable human chaff
You mean like empire spearmen and empire swordsmen and empire halberdiers?
The troops that crumple to a particularly rowdy skavenslave and exist purely to distract enemies long enough for them to get obliterated by guns and war machines and magic?
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>>575112078
Spearmannii 5 is far better. They have better hats
>>575112116
Now THIS actually reads like a shill post if I have ever seen one.
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>>575111950
That is a garbage parallel for so many reasons. Making stuff invisible is an entirely different thing, and making light sabers steel is not something menial like the color of the beam either. Ironically, light sabers have a shitton of different beam colors.
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Just read the CA internal documents. They're in.
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>>575111619
It’s not a big deal because there’ll be a mod in the first day that fixes it.
But it does look terrible.
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>>575112215
whatever you say mate, I have no horse in the lasgun race
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Yellowdefense force is wavering
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>*click*
>WE IZ OUTTA MOVES MASSA
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>>575112290
>and making light sabers steel is not something menial like the color of the beam either
They didn't just change the color of lasgun beams they made them no longer fire beams.
It's a completely different projectile in appearance and function.
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>>575112045
I already own a PC and ate breakfast this morning? Hopefully game devs cant afford new hardware anymore so optimization can happen now.
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>>575112509
>>575112294
SOVL
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pygmies were more fleshed out than cathay
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>>575112570
>they made them no longer fire beams.
They fire beams, just not beams of the color you want. You want to complain about it that's cool, but the massive deal that is being made out of it does feel like people are just forcing it to start the conversation over and over again every time it's not currently in progress.
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>>575112582
>Zeus throws a thunderbolt at your house
Not so smart now chud!
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>>575112294
>>575112509
kino
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>>575111619
It affects readability in combat, bigly. In the footage they have shown you can't even tell when someone is shooting. All I see is muzzle flash and invisible bullet. It's like they are firing blanks.
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NO NEGATIVITY IN THE DOJO
ok!??
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>>575112730
A bolt of energy does not qualify as a beam by any definition. Do you not know what a beam is or have you not seen that lasguns fire bolts instead now?
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>>575111642
I'm currently playing a Carcassonne campaign in TWW2 and I picked the final errantry war against Chaos instead of Greenskins.
Not sure if that was a bad choice. I've fought the Greenskins for the victory conditions with Louen before, so I decided to try fighting Chaos for a change, but I get the feeling fighting Archaon is going to be a real challenge.
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>>575112730
Have you seen the animation?
They fire yellow bolts now made to look like tracer rounds.
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>>575112865
community manager or bootlickinggoycattle
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>>575093606
We'd need ACTUAL chapter editing and not just
"make your hat blue :)"
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>>575112738
Worth it for the sun god's cattle
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OMG it's happening!!!!!
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>>575112136
EVERY TOTAL WAR GAME?
REALLY? But surely total whore whore hammer 40,001 is a true and valid total war series then anon.

It's almost like....this isn't totally total war ...at all...
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Clan Angrund status?
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>>575112916
Isn't Lasgun stuff being always red a DoW thing? It's cool if other media stuck to that, but if you want to argue about "definitions" then what is actually defined in universe is valid.
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>>575113120
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>>575112738
uhhh chud surely you mean a big guy wearing a vaguely zeus-shaped helmet throws a non-mythological projectile at your house with verisimilitude
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>>575113120
TRVE KING
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>>575112920
It just requires a different strategy.
I don't remember the fight specifically because of how long ago it was, but for example Repanse can choose vs Tomb Kings or vs Vamp Coast.
vs Tomb Kings it's about cav smashing the Tomb Kings armies ASAP because they have loads of artillery and weak lines, but all rush in from two different entry points to a flank and to the back of the map.
vs Vamp Coast they have all of the short/mid range gun and monster spam, and the real fight doesn't start until you capture a middle point so it requires an army ready to defend against ranged attacks from all sides as each Vamp Coast LL spawns their army in on a different side.
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>>575113164
>Isn't Lasgun stuff being always red a DoW thing?
Yeah, DoW popularised it for games
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>>575113194
This is what I thought the Druchii were shouting when I selected them for a very long time. Turns out they were just shouting Druchii.
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I mean for fucks sake both speshmahreen's and dorktide had red pew pews
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In addition to ammo I also didn't see anything regarding fatigue level on the UIi. Is it safe to assume those are gone too?
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>>575113257
We had a good thing going but some anglo-kike at GW realized red lasers are not their invention so they had to shut it down.
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>>575113164
Descriptions of how/what lasguns do has varied with every fucking writer.
DoW defined it was red laser beams, and most 40k media since then has depicted them as such.
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>>575113164
Them being explicitly red was established in dawn of war and carried over into the space marine franchise as well as darktide and various other media depictions and has effectively been the canon appearance of lasguns for 20 years(because if GW didn't provide at least tacit approval of the depiction they would have told the game developers and animators to not do it). The description of lasguns explicitly firing beams has been the case for about a decade before dawn of war was released as well.
The bigger issue is actually that they don't fire beams anymore, they fire little bolts more like a star wars blaster.
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>>575108450
The warcraft today is nothing like the warcraft of 10, 15, 20 years ago.

>>575109445
You never know Mr. Amaurot. There's a chance that given how much 40k is yoursdudes that they don't do a daniel and hten abandon hi- wait yeah they'll need to DLC shill named guys. Yeah shit's fucked.
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rogue trader has red laser so red lasers are objectively correct
>b-but muh tableslop game manual said
don't care, secondary
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>>575113550
'miring those leg muscles
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>>575113628
Most of the tableslop game manuals older than 2025 actually say they fire laser beams too.
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>>575113630
this legion is filled with chads
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>>575113429
>and most 40k media since
Good for them. It doesn't mean lasgun has to be red just because DoW did it and other copied. I also still do not see how that is supposed to be such a big deal we need to force the discussion back and back every time it's not currently happening.

I think I'll just go with what the other guy said. I'm just not schizo enough for this shit.
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>>575113550
>he wouldn't jump for the glory of Rome
you coward
may Jupiter strike you down!
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the fact each individual little guy has his own hp again already makes the new engine better
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>>575113312
>HUMAN!
>HEAR THOSE HUMAN CANNONS ROAR!
>HUMAN ENGINEERING, YA CAN'T BEAT IT!
>HUMANS, ADVANCE!
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>>575113870
Old engine already had that
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>>575113794
Those are some huge arrows.
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>>575113931
that's my point. the current engine ruined total war.
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>>575113908
Technically their race is elf. Druchii is more like their faction. So it would be like shouting Empire or men of the empire and so on.
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>>575113931
he did say "again"
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>>575114032
>>575114073
No I mean warhammer, pharaoh etc already had that
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>>575113823
If it wasn't a big deal we wouldn't be having this discussion, shill-kun. Its not forced. It objectively looks bad and it doesn't have to because previous games have already solved this. At this point its a humiliation ritual from GW.
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>>575113850
vgh...
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Speaking of hearing things wrong, does one of the Empire routing voice lines go
>ULRIC'S TEETH, RETREAT D:
or are they actually shouting something else
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bro said pharaoh
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>>575113550
Can't wait for CA to finally add them with siege rework in 9.0 ... sorry I mean 9.1.
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I like to throw in a few of these kinda dudes just for variety
rome is beyond cool as a faction because whereever you go you just buckbreak the locals to fighting in your style its super cool to see

a faction that can make use of the whole map for unique recruitment
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don't trust Romans
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>>575114226
That's what they're saying.
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Fantasy total war may be gay....
But tw40k is trans...
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Does Total 40k have routing? I know some editions of 40k don't have running away.
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>>575114375
you have to go back
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>>575114185
Okay my dude. Like I said, I just don't have the level of mental illness. You can force the beam color discussion back again a few hours after this one dies and then engage with someone else.
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>>575114326
they even made these ones fight in skirts
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>>575114470
Units are shown fleeing when taking sufficient damage or having the balance of power shift too far. The developers said there is morale.
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>>575114352
Good good, aren't hearing everything wrong then
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>>575114350
Never! R*mans deserved what they got.
>>575114552
Was that region in Iberia called Asturia even back then?
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>>575111832
Only strongest Gors allowed.
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>>575114551
New lasguns don't even fire beams in the first place.
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>>575114702
dips on the visialf
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>>575114609
That's good.
With the other anon mentioning a lack of vigour and the lack of ammo I was getting worried.
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>>575114746
Wasn't there a mod that sluttified her and katarina and the chink lady if they got slaanesh corruption in their territories?
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>>575114702
that's the 2nd coolest part of spain cause the reconquista started in the kingdom of asturias
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2VyLDEdspPc
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>>575114551
>fleeing BITCH
kwab
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>>575114431
>tfw no Goth gf
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>>575113630
Romans were a strong people.
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>Imperial guard ("good" guys)
>Space Marines ("good" guys)
>Eldar ("good" guys)
>Orkz (bad guys)
So what are the chances we get another day 1 DLC with Chaos as the "surprise" bad guys?
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>>575114487
Actually sir you have to go back. As this is the total war general and seeing as you will never be a real total war title, you need to leave
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>>575115137
0%. any other retarded questions that are easy to answer?
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>>575115137
Didn't they already say that they won't do a pre-order DLC this time?
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>>575114956
this mod lets u use her
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>>575114879
IIRC Katarina & Miao are done with full corruption story arc, artifacts, and faction benefits.
Morathi has been near complete for like a year.
And Elspeth was started but nothing ever came out after the model.
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>>575115403
why isn't this in the base game?
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>>575115314
>we will not do pre order DLC
>but on launch day the chaos space marines DLC will be available for purchase
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>>575114326
>>575114552
Romans did this shit all the fucking time
in the Punic Wars about half their army was non-Roman, they'd just take Greeks/Etruscans/Samnites put them in Roman armour and send them off with the rest of the legion
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>>575113628
Dark heresy have yellow lasguns
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>>575115505
rome 2 chuds boycotted the game over some ugly ass celtic female agents/generals
now its up to coomerGODS to add hot bitches w mods
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>>575115403
LIG has been at it longer than I knew...
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rome 2 was the first fantasy title
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Stop pretending you care about the lasguns
The yellow bolts look better anyways and were always how they looked canonically. The other games were wrong
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YELLOW BROS
WILL WE LET REDNIGGERS WIN????
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>>575115913
rome 1 was my first fantasy title
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What is the next "We will never get a Total War: ???"
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>>575115942
YELLOWSISTERS ON SUICIDE WATCH!
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>>575115913
*shogun 2
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>>575115937
Don't care I as well as everyone else will be modding it to fix gw's retarded vision
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>>575115937
>and were always how they looked canonically
is this supposed to mean something in retconhammer total market share?
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>>575115942
TRD (total red death)!!!
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>>575115913
>>575115971
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Pokemon RED>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pokemon YELLOW
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Native Americans or Asians?
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>>575113550
Holy sovl this just proves how perfect historical games were absolutely priceless works of art
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>>575116303
Boomers really think this is peak total war?
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Pokemon Total War soon
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>>575115937
In art lasguns usually just had muzzle flash and didn't actually fire projectiles at all.
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>>575116435
med 2 is like rome 1 but better
but still, rome 1 is classic and always fun doing a rome vanilla or barb in barbarian invasion run
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CA and GW were truly a match made in Israel
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>schizo exposed to how he keeps forcing some mentally ill shit over and over again proceeds to go on a shitposting rampage
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RedBVLLS rule /twg/
https://youtu.be/xGKnCUnAsus?si=RrR7IuLlQmz8iSx5
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>the worst thing people can say about the game right now is the color of the lasgun shot. and that is not even CA fault
40k might be the best total war so far
All they have to do now is not fuck up the campaign
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Warhammer 40K 1:
Imperial Guard
Space Marines
Eldar
Orks
Chaos (DLC race)

Warhammer 40K 2:
Tau
Adeptus Mechanicus
Necrons
Dark Eldar
Imperial Knights (DLC)

Warhammer 40K 3:
Adeptus Custodes
League of Votann
Tyranids
Death Guard
World Eaters
Emperor's Children
Thousand Sons
Genestealer Cult (DLC)
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>>575116582
They made units extremely sluggish in medieval 2 compared to rome as I recall. Probably the worst thing about medieval 2 is how the units have no hustle in a very frustrating way.
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>>575105037
Sega invented Hyenas bro.
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>>575117063
i guess, but the avg med 2 unit is also heavily armored
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>>575117004
40k will be a single game
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>>575114375
what's wrong with being trans?
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>>575117004
chaos is way more popular and important in 40k it's not going in the "we run out of money" stage
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>>575113235
My Fay Enchantress army is 2 paladins, 4 grail knights, 4 grail guardians, 2 grail reliquaes, and 7 battle pilgrims. They all have at least 1 gold chevron, maybe 2 don't remember. Not looking forward to fighting Archaon and his hell cannons though.
Dunno if I should get my paladins on pegasus mounts instead of warhorses for the big battle.
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>>575117236
this Warhammer is for everyone
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>>575116862
Seething western foid killing the vibes as usual
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>>575117202
I find it funny how CA lost the capacity to make tasteful melee combat that dont end up like a moshpit
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>>575117236
forgot to mention in this post that I love warhammer and never played med 2 just thought that was important to add
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every time i boot up BOTET I lament how witch elves look like WH
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>>575115514
We did it reddit. We ended predatory DLC tactics. Now we can pay for content that would have been included for free
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>>575117240
because they are just spesh mahreens but spiky.
How many actually play demons
>>575117354
MANY such cases
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>>575117202
The average medieval 2 unit wears chainmail or worse.
In the early campaign almost every unit you recruit will just be wearing clothes.
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>>575115514
>>575117452
>pay $60 for base game and day one dlc
or
>pay $60 for base game and $20 for the exact same dlc, but one month later
CA probably couldnt believe that people were actually asking to pay more for the same content
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>>575117652
but still I played a 300 turn vanilla beyond campaign the other day and I didn't rly notice any sluggishness, maybe its cause of m2ex tho, real game changer
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>>575117236
nothing
if you don't mind the average 40k fan looking like this that is:
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1784915813160010.mp4
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>>575117479
well good thing the demon models are already 90% done, don't tell GW that you're re-using models across games though they'll chimp out
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Yellow century.
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>>575117479
Chaos is necessary for gameplay reasons. I love Chaos but I would NEVER EVER play as one.
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>>575118002
where's all the black women
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>>575118005
Chaos space marines are actually kinda fun, specially since have viking fatigue
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>>575118117
Just out of frame.
You can rest assured that the target demographic exactly matches the player demographic. It's not just 99% straight asian/white men.
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>>575118117
They all have jobs and are too busy to attend these silly conventions for manchildren.
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>>575118150
NEVER SHOULD OF COME HERE
>>575118357
kek
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fact:
red bolts look better.
fact:
gw will retcon anything they feel like retconning on a whim to ruin the setting.
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>>575118434
actual unironic Trvke
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>>575118117
Only for Gweilo, Chinese cast is 100% yellow (like Guard laser).
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>>575118002
we'll convince the Chinese audience that red lasers look better and that removing these is an attack on the Chinese nation
GW will backtrack in a day, the corpo FEARS the chinaman
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>>575118616
Why did CA pivot away from Cathayan Brand Ogres?
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>>575118616
actually a good idea
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>>575118568
Doesn't surprise me at all to see these fucks being flanked by smurfs, they always struck me as codex babies.
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>>575117004
Nids are far too important to be left out in 3.
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you now remember all the retards saying there will be a "age of sigmar total war" after wh3
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>>575118917
the one on the right is alpha legion
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>>575119095
the one on the left too
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Is the DLC for Warhammer III something I need all of, or can I just pick and choose?
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>>575119224
pick and choose it really just depends on what factions you like.
I haven't bought a single dlc with chaos factions that aren't nurgle.
But I do have most from Order side
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>>575119224
You pick and choose for the factions you like to play.
Or you use the mod that just unlocks all of it for free.
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Beastman players don't even have concious thoughts. The two hemispheres of their brain are dedicated to screaming raa roo and roleplaying elaborate rapefics.
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>>575119364
>>575119410
Only have the Chaos Dwarves and that's about it so far, but do I lose out on base units/common ones if I don't own certain DLC?
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>>575119520
yeah you do lose out on some really good ones for some factions or factions in their entirery if you don't have game 1 or 2
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I want to play high elves but Ulthuan is so small
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>>575119465
uhm chud can you please not call simulated literary SA content that
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I like tomb kangs
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>>575120053
Fortunately you can still play the Vortex map in WH3
Honestly, I think it’s much better than the IE map.
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>>575119693
I have W1+2 and all the DLC for both of them, but I bought W3 at launch and barely played it at all over the years it's been out.
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>>575119520
If you play Khorne for example you will be missing out on units from the Champions of Chaos dlc, and the Skulltaker dlc.
If you want to play Empire you will be missing units from the Volkmar dlc, the Wulfhart dlc, and the Elspeth dlc.
The campaign AI can recruit the dlc units anyway because they need to advertise them to you.
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>>575120587
Ahh, then I feel like I might just pick them up before I really get into things. Thanks for answering my stupid questions, I appreciate it.
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>>575118953
nobody gives a shit about age of sigmar and even CA knows this
you have an insular redditor community quoting some obscure tableslop poll as evidence that it's actually very popular, but everyone knows unlike 40k it has next to no cultural impact and very little about it is appealing
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>>575120142
I know you do, Grace
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>>575120892
Our Queen...
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>>575120892
sex
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Any ACTUAL news?
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>>575120436
How? Is there a mod?
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>>575106993
They were all alive?
Some books wrote about formerly legendary characters and such but some just focused on the now.
Skaven focused on the now, as did Empire (except kinda Marius Leitdorf) and high elves.
All were alive in the reign of Karl Franz
>>575107743
Endtimes did not resurrect character except Vlad and Isabelle.
Hell most loved chars died in the first book
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she wasn't that bad.
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JUST
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>>575121201
you pajeets will simp for any random hole on the internet
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>>575114702
For me, it's the caledonian woman.
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>>575120675
You don't really need all the dlc units if you're just starting out. It can be overwhelming if you're new and its not like you can fit them all in one army anyway.
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>>575114431
what's the dad's fucking problem?
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>>575120692
there's some guy out there that forces himself to type orruks and aelves in every post he makes
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>>575121201
VERY 00s coded visage
boxxy-like head tilt, even
grace is a vintage person
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>>575121402
GODS I HATE GAULS was his ancestor
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>>575121371
I'm going to have no idea what I'm doing anyway, so why not add more problems to it?
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>>575121521
>vintage person
nice way of saying old hag
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>>575106993
>ikit
Like a thousand years old due to warpstone and technology
>throt
Hundreds of years old due to mutations and shit
>snikch
Title passed down from deathmaster to whomever kills him
>skrolk
Hundreds of years old due to magic
>queek
Almost dying of old age (like 30 years, sources vary between 20 and 40 years for skaven natural lifespan) in the end times (still beats beggar nohammer solo LOL)
>tretch
who
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>>575121480
do the nerds in /tg/ age of sigmar general even do it
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>>575121870
I look like this
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>>575121623
we love hags here.
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>>575121870
love that guy!
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>>575110851
>And it would have been kino but GW decided no and you cucks took it
Map scale is TWW is shit though. The Old World mod improves it a lot, but TW40K solution is even better
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>>575122479
Saar...
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>>575111553
Eldar are nothing like High Elves. They are more like Wood Elves, but with Skaven weapon teams, Tzeentch magic and as a horde
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>>575118002
>>575118827
Someone make an edit
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>>575122479
Old World Mod is too big actually. You will only ever interact with a small section of the map at the expense of end turn times bloating to unreasonable levels. Bigga map is not automatically better. The Old World Map should be cut up into individual theaters of war, something like:
>Ulthuan + Naggarond
>Lustria
>Southlands
>Old World(Actual)
>Cathay
>Darklands
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>>575111553
I wish my Orcs had rokkit launchas and flashgitz and lootas.
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>>575122954
we love asian butterfaces here
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>>575120053
Expand the Empire!
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>>575121365
>entire army loses to one unit of legio and SCOVT EQVITES
KWAB
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>>575121239
>family and politics shit
Hated this part of Rome 2
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>>575122479
>Map scale is TWW is shit though
Would you stop hating objectively cool things? Total war sucks because tastecels flood feedback with the worst takes.
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The immortal empires map would be better if all of the minor settlements were removed.
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>>575123750
in retrospect im glad ca made the 4x and settlement management stuff so unfun and annoying because it made me check out dominions
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>>575123763
It's absolutely shit theme park which doesn't do the justice to anything. Everything is so close to each other and so tiny you can't immerse yourself into any actual conflict.
Not only does TW40k fix it, it also lets you play as random literally whos in their own regional conflicts instead of making it all feel like capeshit stand offs between superheroes.
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>>575123750
>>575124207
It's amazing that CA was like
>We fucked up making 4x games, but we made good combat!
>Let's improve the combat and make the 4x aspects worse!
>Now that the 4x side is horrible, let's make the combat worse!
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>>575120451
If you have TWW1/2 then TWW3 DLC are pretty similar:
>Lord pack
1 new character with his own faction
Bunch of new units added to the whole race
>Race pack
1 brand new race with multiplecharacters/factions and their own units.
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>>575123750
meh its just some +larp, the systems aren't fleshed out enough

i always make my kids pump out as many kids as possible just 4fun

look at this bitch with 7 kids
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will med 3 add new races like warhammer or will they stick to the ones from the lore
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>>575122954
>40k
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>>575124619
the traits are also rly funny
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>>575124414
always feels like you're doing chores in order to eventually be allowed to play the game
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>>575124827
>>575124619
I wish we can make a family tree in TWW3.
Elspeth deserves a happy smoll family.
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>>575125047
I don't think that's how it'd look...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War
when?
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>>575125239
Total War: Monke would be too based for nu CA
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>>575125047
death mages are sterile
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>>575125393
Death Mages also are supposed to age like milk, with them looking 20-30 years older than they actually are.
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>>575125528
>elspeth is actually just 12 years old
uhhh. mods?
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>>575082224
I was really hoping for regimental flags this time, looks like mods will have to save the day yet again
Don't know why CA is so averse to doing them for WH when they make them for historical titles
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>>575083742
>tactical rock (metal)
>tactical rocks (small)
>tactical rocks (S.P.Q.R)
>tactical rocks (long)
>tactical rock (Cadia Stands-not)
>tactical rock (winged-skull)
>tactical rock (space-elves light)
>tactical rock (space-elves dark)
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>>575125632
I wish.
Elspeth was basically the OC Donut Steel Waifu created for the End Times.
>She's the secret best death mage that ever was
>She has a pet dragon, a feat only one other human has ever accomplished
>But her dragon is actually a super special rare super dragon, making her even more unique!
>She can show up anywhere and everywhere to save the day and is not just a master of magic, but also a grand strategist and knows everything about war and technology too!
She's basically a 40k character in Fantasy.
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>>575125239
>Mon-keigh history
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>>575124619
Based matron fulfilling her duty to Rome and her ancestors.
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>>575125897
>Elspeth
>created for the End Times
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>>575126227
Yeah, Tamurkhan, whatever, I associate her with End Times because the writing quality is about the same.
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>>575125897
That’s tame and grounded compared to the real 40k Mary Sues like Cawl.
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>>575125997
matron is actually a political rank women can acquire
this bitch acquired it at only 35
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is there some ultra edgy mage that can do life and death magic?
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>>575126616
Every elf high mage or dark mage, technically. But they tend to have 0 characterization except for Teclis.
Mortals by default cannot know more than one wind of magic without becoming witches/dark-mages, and they tend to not use life magic.
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>Oxyotl and Kaldor Draigo are basically the same
>Oxyotl is seen as cool
>Draigo is called a mary sue
Why the disparity?
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>>575124291
Ffs stop saying "shit theme park" it outs you as a jeet. That and the taste so bad your breath smells like shit
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>>575126515
cawl doesn't even have a dragon or cast magic
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>>575126954
You couldn't be more wrong
And that's exactly, explicitly what IE is. Terribly designed map all around. Exactly this same issue as TES has since Morrowturd.
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>>575125393
>>
what made mortal empires work but immortal empires not work
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>>575127303
none of those work btw
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>>575083742
>just heard the rumor about the Crimson Fists
Well, if they refresh Pedro model maybe the CF can actually be the second Chapter.
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>>575127391
clearly we didn't try hard enough and need to keep going
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>>575123257
Ogres, my Lord.
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>>575127171
>>575124291
>Doesn't do justice to anything
How so?
>Close together and tiny
IE has 554 settlements 214 provinces base. IEE has more.
>Can't immerse yourself in le conflict
So join war retard

>Tw40k fixed this
No it didn't, it wasn't a problem.
>Let's you play as literal who's instead of le capeshits

Your retarded ass really won't touch a mod will you? All of this can be fixed with mods and it took me a while to realize your dumb ass is playing vanilla. You have only yourself to blame
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>>575127962
>we
imagine your wife posting on 4chan
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>>575128658
>using cheats
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>>575129056
>Paying for a fix he could get for free.
I don't think you play the game anon. I think you just get paid or strong armed to sell games to the masses.
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>>575126908
one of them is an orange chameleon man
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>>575129375
donald trump is in warhammer?
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>>575129721
he is in 40k
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>>575128658
>How so?
Everything is tiny and too close to each other. A tiny theme park of an Empire. A tiny theme park of Bretonnia next to it. Tiny Athel Loren too. Just like a tiny Wild West park next to a tiny Medieval park.
>IE has 554 settlements 214 provinces base. IEE has more.
To make a theme park. Reikland is a single province, separated by one from Sylvania. They are next to each other. You defeat both Festus and Manfred in a manner of few turns and then it's over. It was so easy to unite the Empire.
>So join war retard
Will not fix anything. That's not the problem
>No it didn't, it wasn't a problem.
It was an extreme problem and huge part why game feels so arcadey
>Your retarded ass really won't touch a mod will you?
It took until TWW3 for TOW mod to be made, which is still not enough
I bloat my games completely with mods
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>40k news yesterday
>page 9
Dead general dead series dead game
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>>575130037
>dead general
recruit a new one then
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Allow me to end this general by reminding you that Tyrion has 83 melee attack and 72 melee defence and 125 armour on turn 1.
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>>575127391
Weak seed.
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>>575130254
wow the asoiaf mod for med 2 sounds really unbalanced but no one cares about cheats so back to discussing warhammer 40k
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>>575129721
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never buying a plastic model never read a wiki page pirated game stolen computer mcdonalds wifi
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>>575131061
based
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read wiki with vpn and adblocker to steal intellectual property
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NEW
>>575131369
>>575131369
>>575131369
>>575131369
NEW
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>>575130383
incredible ghosting
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Warhammer is a setting, not a story. That's what the GW niggers don't realize
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>>575126908
Warhammer Fantasy outstanding characters are diamonds in the rough that rose against the odds when no one thought they could survive.
Warhammer 40k outstanding characters are the most elite prepared supersoldiers with gear fabricated in the most revered foundries in the universe.
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>>575064873
This is exactly what I was talking about when I said before 40ktw was announced.
The flexible squad & cover-based gameplay of 40k isn’t fully compatible with Total War’s more rigid formation-based gameplay. In combining the two, we were always doomed to either get a product that didn’t play like a Total War game, or one that didn’t play like 40k.
In the end, it was 40k’s gameplay that was sacrificed to fit the game into the Total War mold.



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