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>On a single unit card, you can toggle to see stats of different models with different equipment>Unit cards update dynamically, if all your flamer guys die, those won't show up on unit card anymore>Models have individual lines of sight within unit again, guys in the back might not be able to shoot>Every shot trajectory is tracked on it's own, shots have to hit enemy units to count>Every model keeps it's own track of ammo, if you interrupt them and they will be left with 2 shots, they will first fire those two next time they try to shoot, only later reload>Models within a single unit can shoot at few different units>Infinite ammo overall>Most single entities are gone, save for super elites like Stompa. Generals have bodyguards>Psykers too, if Psyker dies then obviously you can't use his powers anymore>You can destroy buildings and create/diminish cover because of this>Craters caused by artillery create cover>Reinforcements come from different armies/fleet you have nearby
Thanquol soon, friends!
So how kino is the stream? I'm still at work.
>>574993340Nobody gives a fuck. Play WH3 Khorne
stop talking about 40k right now or im gonna be real mad
>>574993340>>Craters caused by artillery create coverwe company of heroes now
>>574993379it's not kinothey're just dumping information
Sergeants can supposedly use pistols in melee combat.
spess marines will be the shitty horde faction nobody likeseldar will be the finnicky micro intensive sweatlord faction nobody likesorks will be the retard proof right-click to win faction morons likeImperial Guard chads will carry TW:40k on their backs as the true strategy understander faction
>>574993260tired of seeing this fucking battle map already
>>574993340>Generals have bodyguardsvghhhhh still not true total war though...vgh...medieval 2
Honestly looks like it was made more for histfags than fantasyfags desu
>>574993396>post goonbait pic of a character/race that is explicitly and specifically anti-goonerI am so sick of cumbrains.
>guys with sword blobs against guys with spearsGenuinely how can medievalmanii 3 beat this?
>>574993479can they shoot their own units with it to improve morale?
Peturbed Pedro on stream
>>574993630Sorry, am busy slaughtering for Khorne
>Angry Joe crashing out in the chat
You can throw grenades at enemies which aren't necessarily within the line of sight. Darkshards (Explosives).P.S. I don't know what a Tange is.
>>574993489>Imperial Guard chads will carry TW:40k on their backs as the true strategy understander factionIt was always clear this would be the case
>Grouchy Gabriel in chat
>>574993758Nobody cares
>>574993693why is he giga esl
baneblade explosions look shit
>Mad Miguel in chat
>Angry Alberto in the chat
>>574993630you're talking to a neet addicted to attention and hrt
>Irate Ike in chat
why is everyone talking about Furious Fernandez all of a sudden?
>>574993939>not a mexican namemissed
>Malding Miguel
>>574994038Seven Peso Sanchez? He was spotted in the chat
>>574994094he's so hot
>Raging Ramirez in chat
40GODS KEEP WINNING!
Another, more casual stream next week
>>574994038Malding Miguel was all over marketing for the first total warhammer. He's a celebrity
>>574994038He was having a meltie in the stream chat
hold on wait a minute, what the fuck GW?
>no map painting or sandboxiing>No taking over critical locations like holy terra or gorkamorka>Little to no variety in maps>Just a bunch of psuedo ww2 customization autism ooh look at my stats you guis I literally just wanted immortal empires with 40k factions. Why does every Warhammer title feel the need to take a simple concept like that, shit the bed and roll in it?
I cba to watch the whole stream, did they say anything about the low framerate of the gameplay?
>>574994240That was always the case in the books. Only games made them red.
This looked fucking greatThat baneblade firing all guns felt tasty afDoomsissies are losing all the time
>>574994309They said newer build is better optimizedThis one is few months old
>space mainesManchild 5oyboy consoomers>space elvesCoomers>imp guardNazi larpers>orksThat guy who always clicks randomize on character creatorsI defy you to tell me I’m wrong
>>57499357340k is basically fantasy WW1 and all these systems are being built no doubt to permit actual 20th century Total Wars further down the line.
>>574994240Yes GW has garbage taste
DoomTITANS are winning bigly again
>>574993573>space WW2 armies>space knights(transhuman)>space nunneries>space knights(giant robot)it's a histoid game universe, xenosfags are just living in it
Seeing units backpedalling and shooting made me smileIt only took CA 30 years to implement a orderly retreat movement
>>574994380>”this build doesnt look great”>’the new one is better!’>”may we see it?”>’no, just trust us.’
>>574994389
>>574994240It'll be a day 1 mod like what Gladius got when its workshop went live.
>>574994309>>574994380As is usually the case in gamedev. You really shouldn't be worried about framerate at this stage. If gameplay closer to release still looks so janky then it's a real issue.
>>574994389i thought the guard was reddit
>>574994302I'd blame GW for that desu you know GW would seethe their asses off if Terra was captured because that would do whatever to the lore this was said over and over and over and over again that if tw40k happened GW would meddle with it constantly this will be the first of many
SOON>Lore of the Exodites: Reject Decadence and Ride Dragonshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/nx7ifif4/reject-decadence-and-ride-dragons/
kasrkinCHADS we got vanguard deployment
>>574994593>tfw like factions in all five categoriesI am the cringeGOD
Imagine being worried about performancepoorfags truly are pitiable
>>574994302Immortal Empires is shitty themeparkWar zone concept looks better now. Like The Old World mod, but even more indepth and focused. Fantastic
>>574994240it's red in dawn of warit's red in rogue traderit's red in darktidesince it's red in all the 40k video games that aren't shit it's canonically red lasersdon't like it? too bad secondary, I'm not reading your gay ass books and I'm not playing without a mod that makes them fire red lasers
>consoles will make it for casualsThis game has already more features than any other historical game, kneel. And they've just shown one faction and shooting.
>>57499430240keks can't handle it...
>>574994240
>>574994692>Cold One Knights (Asur)
>>574994240Books and official art has always depicted them as yellow-white laser boltsDoW is what made them red beams, and games used that as a baseline up until recentlyArch or someone probably has 200 videos on how GW raped your dog and did this to spite you, so go watch them
>units are made of different models with unique equipment>you can backpedal and shoot with infantryOkayI kneel CA
>>574994719>click Kasarkin squad>SHADES!
>>574994240>>574994883Custodes had always been MALE in their art but that didn't stop GW from retconning femstodes into the game.
OH NO NO NO NO NO NOLOOK AT THE TOP OF THEIR HEADS
>total war 40k>more than half of the races are supposed to be on the same team>xenos just exist for imp factions to have an appropriate enemyImagine playing karl franz and all you ever fight is other empire, brettonia, cathay, kislev and maybe 1 greenskin settlement per 50 turns.
>Their depiction has been remarkably consistent: they fire discrete, pale white-yellow bolts, not visually dissimilar to the tracers of the hard-round guns they replaced. is this the "there have always been female custodes :)" moment for guardfags?
>>574994962This is Pharaoh technology t h o.
>>574995167I dont remember pharaoh having unique different stats within the same unit
>>574994784>That clip.Endless space 2. They literally ripped off es2.
It is a good day to be a hold the line chad.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT SPACE SHIT SHOW ME LORDS OF THE END TIMES
>>574995118>More than half>same teamThe imperium isn't more than half of the roster and even if they somehow were, they aren't all in the same team lol
>>574995130Nowhere near as bad, guardfags are just big babies who act like GW took a shit in their mouths and released a 3 hours video where they talk about how all of this was done to punish them for liking something
I don't like how a good 35-40% of the screen is covered by UI
>>574994389>nidsFemoids>tauWeaboos and chinks/japs>admechNeckbeards>votannLiterally who>battle bitchesCoomers again>cronsIncels>chaosEdgy teenagers
>>574995247>es2 invented planetsehh
>>574995240Your Ox carts? Not only two differently statted units in it they can also separate.
>40k still looks like rancid shit from Grandfathers arseooooooooof
Most 40K lords and heroes will have a bodyguard unit but the more powerful ones will just be single entities.Imperial Guard Legendary Lords will probably have a bodyguard whilst Ork Legendary Lords will likely go solo.
>>574994784>Have cool thing >Devs change it to something not cool.>Hey I liked cool thing>Some retard always claiming that cool thing was never cool and that current thing that's gay is so cool despite having a few brief pictures of it
>>574995334it's literally the same as usual assuming you can just unpin the unit card and many people have larger screens than 1080p these days
I honestly don't know how can you still be a doomsissy after all of this. Everything they show keeps btfoing any and all concerns
>>574994937>>574994692>Tiktaq'to (Tyrion)
>>574995334>I don't like how this thing can be changed in options...
As soon as 40k releases you faggots will be spamming the thread begging for dlc news like the fantasoys have done for the last decade. You all make me sick.
>>574995546Its the same 2 retards doompostingThis gameplay was fucking awesome
>>574994240Kek, you didn't know about this? I've been told to shut up about it because I cried about it non stop last year. GW has shit taste. The beams were a great change that was made when we moved to video games. Beams immediately sets the IG apart from all the other visual effects. Yellow tracers blend into literally everything. >>574994883Notice how those lasguns don't look anything like what we have today. But for some reason it doesn't count. It's so fucking arbitrary what GW decides to enforce and what not to enforce.
>>574995334Not squeezed unit cards are such a massive improvement it's unreal. Took them long enough for fucks sake
>>574995618Go back to Rome 1 gayboy.
>>574995618I kneel
>>574995073They all look like they worship slaanesh.
>>574995073notice which faction is missing
>unit customization goes as far as different specialists inside a single unitOk I wasn't expecting that, they're delivering, hopefully the VFX get more polished though. The cannons look pretty weak in that department.
>>574995618The piggies keep the lights on for us and now we're finally getting med3.
>>574994240>Dawn of war made one of the best changes in the setting accidentally>some grognard at GW got tired of people thinking it was canon and started vetoing all red lasguns in mediaTalk about not recognizing an upgrade
>>574995690how is shift-select going to work?
>>574995618Does anyone in here actually pay for the dlc?
>>574995618Maybe they will but I won't this game is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. There are several factions I've yet to mappaint with and more mods to design that clean up shit mechanics. I think I'm gonna wait and see here
2 days of 40keks ensues
>>574995878Red laser cant be copyrighter. Yellow laser tracers can.
>>574995851According to valrak sources, the gamescom build will be much newer and they commented that vfx was still being worked on
>>574995331>NOOOO YOU BIG BABIES STOP HARASSING THE MULTI BILLION POUND SMALL FAMILY COMPANY!!!!!11!!!lmaoing @ your lifeGuardKINGS know that GW will backtrack and cave in if they complain enough, GW went from "the Steel Legion was reduced, just paint krieg in yellow you babies" to a panicked apology and a rushed release of Steel Legion concept art with a promise of future releasesmeanwhile you cuckboys will bend over and thank them for the slightest bit of attention, that's why GW will continuously drag their nuts all over your sissyxeno factioncope & seethe
>>574995674>Notice how those lasguns don't look anything like what we have today.They do. Spectre Squad has a variety of different looking lasguns to choose
>>574996027Nice, thanks anon!
>>574995986You had 10 years of fantaslop. Your time is over and /vst/ awaits. You can join histoids and cry how you got marginalized by newfags.
>>574994595gladius has animations? i thought it was all a excel spreadsheet game
>>574996027>FATrakYikes
>lasgun fire glancing off against tank armorWhy even insists that it's LAS-gun if it's going to behave exactly like regular guns?
>>574995986>>574996156the displacers have been displaced....
>>574994883
>>574995331>Nowhere near as badLiterally THE most recognizable visual characteristic of the Imperial Guard for 20+ years. We are allowed to care.
You know. I really liked this formatIts way fucking better than narrated cut trailers
>>574996156So true sister!
>>574996032>GuardKINGS know that GW will backtrack and cave in if they complain enoughthanks for the laugh matethey don't give a fuck about what people who play the videogames think, they only care about their miniature salesthe Steel Legion thing was done because they thought it would hurt the sales of their minis, but now they have people who are looking forward to those new minis, so they won in the endyou will never get the red beams back, just like the old Necrons will never come back, old T'au will never come back, the Great Rift will never close, the loyalist Primarchs will never go away, and 3rd edition will never be relevant again
>>574996202Those are bolter/autogun shots anon.
I feel no pity for fantasois after witnessing how they treated Pharaoh posters.
>>574996313Honestly didn't even realise that Dawn of War 1 released over 20 years agoYou are of course allowed to care, but IG fans have been extremely obnoxious about it, so it's natural that some have gotten sick of it
>>574996160There are little animations when you attack, yeah. As a game it's actually pretty streamlined and simple, like Civilization if it was entirely focused on war. The most autistic thing about it is the time it takes to move all of your units across the map.
>>574996304HALT. You have committed a VFX VIOLATION.Marked in this image is a Lascannon. >The powerful Lascannon is a formidable Laser Weapon whose energetic beam of coherent light is capable of penetrating most armoured vehicles.>beam of coherent lightImage depicts the lascannon energy NOT as a laser, but simply a muzzle flash. This is incorrect! You will be fined!
>>574996032>Cadia standsCadia never stood. It's a planet. Planets float in orbit.
Schlop Schlop Schlop
>>574996156Your games were ovver since forever now and you never left. You just bitched and gave the devs bad ideas for games you never played. Why can't we do that?
I remember in highschool I had smth like this made into a keychainlost it once maybe some kid found it and became a guard fan 40ker...
>>574996617planets don't float retard, they're not surrounded by fluidan orbit is more like continuously falling forward and towards the center of the system
>Game is clearly a much improved formula from fantasy>All the fantasoy and histfags seethingI'll be real I wasn't hyped before this showcase, but they're seriously putting effort in it.
>>574996692Only good post
The Baneblade has approximately 12 different turrets.Do not stand in front of the Baneblade.
>>574996594Muzzle flashes are a thing with las weapons too
>>574996883thisit needs more brown people though
>>574996901>one-shots your banebladepsh, nothing personal mon-keigh.
>>574995851it really is like dawn of war
>>574996973Yes, but the beam is missing. Meaning the art is "wrong".
>>57499706340saaaars will love it.
beta sign-up?ok you guys go ahead, but let me know when the chad sign-up is online
man kislev has super cheap buildings
>>574996901YAWWWWNNN
>>574996474look at this shit
>>574996883Fantasois will cry and screech for they sense their demiseHistchads are patiently waiting for med3 so they are chill
I will play TW:40k and like it.Just like I’ve done with every TW game before it, except 4chinkdomes and Attila which I didnt like.
are there female guardsmen in the units? they hot?
The Astra Militarum is so cool bros
>>574996883Me too. I wouldn't say hyped yet but I'm actually looking forward what they're going to show next now. There's insane kino potential in here but I need to see an actual game between two decent players.
>>574997345Sure is shit
>>574996517It was mostly that one hyper autist shitting his pants over the OP. No one else dogged pharaoh posts as hard once the sea people update came out.
>>574997336Their economy has poor return on investment. Make sure to fight lots of battles to maximise revenue.
>>574997345sloppa...
>>574997383if they don't they should and they should be short haired tomboys
>>574997345I loved everything I saw but they really need to mess around with explosion and big guns vfx
Personally I thought the gameplay looked great. Need a gif of the Baneblade mulching that Boyz units stat.>>574993479I appreciate that its called a Hot-Shot Lasgun/pistol as I am not a fan of them being called Hellguns/Hellpistols, but when did it become a coloquial name? I thought thats just what they are called now feels like everyone calls them that in setting. Either way definitely prefer Hot-Shot so win for me.
>>574997590I'm just literally praying SoB don't end up like this
>>574997345besides the beams vs bolts issue for lasguns, this gun effect look like shit. It's literally just a regular tracer, indistinguishable from any other generic bullet gun. At least make it look powerful.
All that yellow sure looks like shit
Can someone make a webm of the baneblade mogging the boyz?
>>574997345>only 30 men per unitGalaxy sure is SMALL
40k doesn’t work compared to fantasy because it takes itself too seriously, despite the scale of the setting being utterly untenable in terms of suspension of disbelief.At least fantasy is a single cohesive world, with surely some cracks at the seams, its at least a wholistic product that also has some fun.40k is entirely ‘grand for the sake of grandness and spectacle’ with little cohesion of greater sense of thought put into it other than ‘heres space marines and space marine adjacents, here are regular humans to compare them too, and here are aliens to give them something to shoot.’By far the worst example of this is custodes. Space marines were designed as and are supposed these super elite best of humanity warriors yada yada, but then they became mainstream. So what you do for elites when elites are the mainstay? Custodes, well those are the super duper special ultra bestest guys ever like for realsys.
wtf is this unit and how can it go toe to toe with ROMA legionairies? gauls are actually strong in DEI.... FUCK
I think it looks pretty neat, it needs some tidying up of course but it looks like it has potentialboth medieval 3 and 40k have potential, hopeful they won't squander it :D
>>574998028If 40k is a dud my expectations for Med3 are going to tank, pretty much all my hopes on the future of this franchise are riding on the new engine being easier to develop for.
>>574997884Those are elite Kasrkin warriors. Not basic Cadian cowards.
>>574998085holyy kino, 40k won
>>574998028>Getting on a horseLost technology>>574998143Sealteamanniii (space)
>>574998085I kneel
SOVL!
>>574994302>Little to no variety in mapsWhy do you niggers continue to just spout completely unfounded, random bullshit like it's a fact and then spend the thread endlessly doomposting about it
>>574998085>flamethrowers in the backI guess Hans doesn't mind burning his comrades.
>>574998085Fire effects look almost perfect. Kinda falls off at the end.
WHEN?
>>574997895Space Marines were the best. Then they made a breakthrough and got custodes. This is like saying it's stupid earth lore that new technologic breakthroughs made it possible to have better PC hardware.
>>574998290who?
>>574995254I think Sentry would also see a lot of use from Eldar and other fast attack units, marking out a specific unit they want to fuck up on a hit and run. Instead of the classic issue of all your horsearchers or whatever shooting at the shitty screen units when you move them close rather than focusing on the unit you actually want to hit, or doing a driveby on a tank and being able to prioritize the tank instead of all the troops shooting at the corner of a line unit.
>>574998214Magnus the Red said they had that kind of technology back in Prospero...
>>574998290Why is he eating his own arm?
I need a webm of the baneblade btfoing the boyz
>>574998085When will a video game get flamethowers right bros
>>574998085Looks weirdly superimposed but still infinitely better than the fire effects in WH3. Maybe CA finally rediscovered how to make nice particle effects.
>>574998456fucking scary
>>574998085They'd better fix the flames further down the trail appearing out of nowhere, otherwise I like it.
>>574997345absolutely kino death animationstiny guns not doing anything to the tank and glancing off look great
Those unit icons look bland as hell.
>>574998456never everyou'd need proper fluid physics, that's why devs cheat and pretend like flamethrowers shoot flammable gas
>>574997895>takes itself too seriouslyno such thingbrutally kill all memefaggotslet them hang alongside Whedon
>>574997726They are never coming back chuddie
>>574998503Because it has no transparent elements. Most likely for performance reasons.
The guardsmen in SM2 had red lasguns for their weapons too and that game is pretty recent relative to the other ones. I wonder if GW will make them change it to yellow for SM3
>>574998456https://youtu.be/s-T1bT3yDFE?t=8The King wins again
>>574998758lad just made some roasted Yakiimo lmaooo
>it's not a game of slogging away with your single hero and throwing in your single herofantasoy bros on suicide watch.... fuck
>>574998828um sister why are there so many wh*te men in this picture??
>>574998654>unit iconsThose are renders of your customized dudes, like in Darktide
>>574998230>ultramarine gabrielcursed
>>574998785Ugh really, not even a single quip to take the edge off? I'm getting stressed...
>>574998987>like in DarktideHorrible choice to copy from
>>574998967legendbros....
>>574998987no sovl
>>574998958>I wonder if GW will make them change it to yellow for SM3Most likely, yesThe Rogue Trader CRPG had red beams, but their next CRPG called Dark Heresy has yellow bolts
>>574998085>Irondrakes were a thing in the first fucking fantasy game>I vaguely remember medieval 2 having some weird flame unit for Jerusalem tooYou people are idiots
>>574998828i've read that article many times, and it's so wrong lol. >remarkably consistentdon't you just love it when GW lies straight in your face?
>>574999183You are an Ork boy and this baneblade slaps your grot's ass, what do you do?
>>574999203Byzantines had their greek fire units yes
>>574998240It's founded on the fact that we've only really seen one map. Fag
>>574999241It's their universe sweetieIf you don't like it go make your own
>>574999183LMAO fuck orkeks
>>574998958You will have generic yellow tracers and you WILL LIKE IT.
>>574999203the Byzantines had the flamethrowers you dummy, those Frankish barbarians in Jerusalem would have never figured that one out
>>574999342Yes and we also havent seen playable eldar, are you gonna doom about there being no eldar in the game too? Just fuck off with this sub 50 IQ bullshit
>>574999183even here that unit icon is just ass....even rome 2 had better
>>574998290>Ghetto graffiti for a signature WE WUZ
>>574999362nah, I'll keep talking about it forever. Bad decisions deserve to be ridiculed.
>>574998456WTF it's literally a flameTHROWER I didn't know that was a thing
>>574999484I liked vanilla Rome 2's iconsthey were evocative of ancient pottery
>>574999484Post a good unit icon
>>574999183>that last shotalmost comical
"KILL URKS!"
>>574999543The only thing being ridiculed is you people. GW doesn't give a shitEveryone else accepted ages ago that they won't make lasguns shoot red beams, but you babies will still spend the next decade whining about it
>>574999183I love that the retarded amount of guns on every vehicle is being utilized.
>>574999484It'd look way better without the aquila wings, if they're going for minimalism they shouldn't take half measures.
>>574999704*Orruks
>>574998456that's melta
>>574999704I say this and look like this
>>574993489>the STRATEGIST's faction>deploy everything on a line and wait for the enemy to run inWoaw
>>574998758>BANZ- *ACK*
>>574999752you can keep whining about my whining if you want but i'm not gonna stop. The whining will continue until morale improves.
>>574999183>that final shotheh
>>574999183>That last shotme after I goon for 5 hours
>>574999362>>574999752nta but you sound like major bootlicker.red looks far better desu Star Wars had it right
>>574999971Peak "that last drop of piss" energy
PREDICT THE 40K ALL TIME PEAK
>>575000232My ogryn could EASILY solo all of those soldiers.
>>57500023940k
>>575000239400k minimum at launch
>>575000069apologies for not reeing at a billion dollar company for raping my videogames by changing the color of a fictional weapon's projectiledo you honestly think all this energy you're wasting on being angry about lasguns will do anything? Because it will amount to nothing. Nobody will look at you and think to themselves "damn, those guys are fighting the good fight against the evil men at GW"
>>574999891fantasoys used to hero spam and rightclicking to win wouldn't get TRVE STRATEGY
>>574999183The last shot is just the prefect cherry on top. I'd say this was enough Dakka.Looted Baneblade mod for Orks when?
>>575000514I literally looked at them and thought that
>>575000239200k bit more probably. Darktide and Spacemarine didn't reach that so I don't see why this would suddenly go 300k or anywhere near>>575000514rustled up jimmies there Saar
>>575000694
>>575000239Around 300k easily>>575000790SM2 had above 200k
>>575000514>men
>>575000514you're wasting the exact same level of energy yourself by posting. You're participating in the energy wastage. Why do you even care? The fact that you care about other people caring is even more pointless. >but you caring about me caring about other people caring is EVEN MORE pointless!!!ok :)
>>575000232>>574999362>>574999183>>574998987>>574996901>>574995334>>574995254This will sound nitpicky of me but I cannot stand the nu40k ui and artwork. One of the things that drew fans in was john blanches cool style and feel that gave out old grim vibes. This looks too clean and bubbly if that makes any senseDay 1 mod "throw a can nuln oil on every model"
>>575000998Agreed. My understand is that the UI is still placeholder.
>>575000994ffs stop biting bait
>>575000926Why is yours different from mine?
>>575000994Just pissy myself I supposePointless to try and make people change the way they think, at most I can just be as annoying to them as they are to other people, but none of it mattersShould go for a walk
red>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SHIT>>>>>>>>yellowsorry but it's how it is.OK
A Total War Saga: Age of Sigmar
>>575000998That's one of the main reasons why I slowly stopped caring about 40k around 7th edition. But I also think it's one of those things that inherently works better as a metal album cover than it ever could as a video game.
>>575000239hard to say, so far only 4 games had a 100k+ launch and my guess is 40k will be the fifthif it can beat the likes of 3K and W3 remains to be seen
>>575001247must be steamdb vs steamcharts difference for some reason
>>575000232CLEARING A PATH, SAH!
RIP big guy :(
>>575001519But which one is true
>>575001567I hope they can harness even a fraction of the soul DoW1's voice lines had.
How are these 2 lads currently in the game?Any fun to be had in Lustria
>>575001620The one that helps my agenda.
>>575001607He fell like he slipped on a banana peel.
I see 40k haters are MALDING so the showcase mustve been awesome, watching now
>>575001256If you genuinely want to change someone's mind then you need a different strategy. You'll never change anyone's mind by making insulting posts. >>575001207shut up bitch, i bite what i want, when i want
>>575001802I tried Alberic around IE launch and the Lustria maps it kept giving me made it miserable to maneuver my horsies around. I managed to push through but don't feel like ever touching his campaign again when Repanse and her nice desert maps exist.
>Titus version:>>575000926>Leandros version:>>575001247
My only regret so far is we're most likely not getting transports. Mechanized infantry is too kino for CA
>>575002558Never say never, it's a big mechanic on tabletop so I'm sure it'll be represented somehow even if it comes 5 years post launch.
>>575001607Big man big target-thing
>>575002558We have already convened a council on this moran... transports will enter the field as reinforcements then deliver their troops onceBasically how tabletop goes
That live reinforcement system is awesome
>anon when the lasguns don't have red beams
>>575002676My issue is the discrepancy between unit sizes is way higher than in TT so you'd need 8 chimeras to carry a single guardsmen unit or at least 4 to not make it look completely silly. I guess they can make non-walker vehicle squads but that opens its own can of worms.>>575002923That fits for shitboxes like Rhinos but some of the transports are just as strong as the units they carry. Imagine having a landrider act as a glorified taxi.
Total War Dragon Ball Would have saved us.These are Grim times
>>575003351Even a little grave, time wise.
>>575002558Either >Loaded unit like >>575002923 says Or>Transports have ~5 models in a unit plus ability to teleport nearby model inside/out. Transports dont lose models before hitting 0 hp at which all models die simultaneously
*sighs*
>40k doomers are reduced to crying about the color of the laser beams
Yellow piss color that fades into the background genuinely looks like shit and uninspiring thoughever
>>575003442Damn he must have sucked ass if they got rid of him for the current composer LMAO!!!!
>>575003612It does but GW is retarded cookiedoughbeit.
>>575003412>Transports dont lose models before hitting 0 hp at which all models die simultaneouslyThat would look completely fucking retarded seeing one transport tank a ton of rockets then all the rest (potentially in cover) explodingThe only time I can see a mechanic like that working is an elite unit stubbornness ability like Krimson Killerz/Immortals have or a tech for Tyranids because they're mentally linked to each other
>>575003351>you will never have a /k/HAGwifegrave...
>>575003598>a single unit has more complexity than an entire army of twwhDoomsissies...
>>575001620You go to the steam community page for the game and use whichever number is closer to that
OK here is my olive branch doomersYou know damn well that the game play they showed today was amazing for a game that doesn't have a release date yetIt's not too late to get on board and post funny orkz and sexy space elves with your brosOr you could go live on /vst/ with the other rejectsYour choice
>>575003598Separate skins for your ONE unit is sold separately chud
>>575002558If fantasy can't have mount/dismount option for cavalry then it's only fair
>p-please be excited guyzLEMME THINK ABOUT IT
>>575004483NO
>>575004156No. I've only begun.
>40won't have any important gobboes just orc slop
>>575003598What i'm looking at ?Explain like i'm a Grot.
>>575004156I am also on the boat of forgiving the doomers, they can join us in building a bright future for this generalWe can all be friends
>>575004156>Necrons>Tyranids >Dark eldar>Immortal empires map in space>Space battles >All planets are capture able no exceptions>Guillimans face is to be forcibly removed from the game.>Guard need red lasgunsDoombrothers, what other conditions do we want to bring to the bargaining table before we hype?
>>575004631They have them but a communist tranny is currently in charge of them and uses them for a mouthpiece.
>total doomer deathThis gameplay was fucking greatI wont lie, it was the best thing CA has shown to us since 2015 when warhammer was first revealed.the complexity of building units and having multiple specialists within the same unit raised my hype through the roof
Guys, this game looks genuinely great!When can we pre-order it?
>>575004646Overall and detailed stats for different models holding different weapons within a single Karskin squad. Hot-shot Lasguns have Rapid Fire mode, which increases fire rate when enemy is closer since it's easier to aim.
>you can't waste ammo since there is infinite ammo in 40kwhy dey do dis
>>575003598>all that variety and customization
You are all Pakis.Unlike me.
The shilling is really strong today.....
>>575004631Red Gobbo and the Gretchin Revolutionary Committee dlc in the second game. Trust the plan.
Doomers this is your last chance to repent, I am warning you
DoomLegion can't be beaten
>>575005084I hope we get Kaptain Badrukk as a LL with some Freebooter units
>>575005314You vill get Ork power armor(insert color) And you vill like it!
How can anyone look at like, half an hour of unedited gameplay that looks fucking great, and go "huh nah"?I cant wrap my head around it
No, Total War: Warhammer 40,000 will not failYes, it will have the greatest launch of any Total War game in all of historyNo, you will not get another Fantasy titleYes, Medieval 3 will also be the final historical titleIt is time to accept reality and embrace the future of Total War
No Grace no buy.
>>575005510a vicious hatred of the 40k setting + an autistic inability to admit they were wrong (about 40k not working as a total war game)
Is hopeposting the new trend?
>>575005940genuine slop post?Grim
It isn't hopeposting when we can all clearly see that Total War: Warhammer 40,000 is going to be a groundbreaking experience.
>>575005019To torment legend
>>575005957I think we've seen enough straight up gameplay to be past hopeI've been through a lot of big releases and there are two kinds of devsDevs who don't want people to see their game pre-releaseand Devs who show it off at every possible opportunity because they're proud of the workWe are dealing with the latter
>>575005314Space Pirate Coast dlc. Badrukk, Red Gobbo, Red Corsairs, OC Fat woman imperial pirate.
>>574994240Yea, I miss the old art where lasguns clearly had red lines. (Don't ask the artist where the other Sentinel leg is).Also>ChatGPT
Won't unlimited ammunition make artillery a little overpowered?
>gooners shillingShan't listen
>>575006240Only a singlecel would think this
>>575006171They also threw a jab at legend when saying you wouldnt have lords soloing armies in 40k
>can't articulate their point>just call everyone shillswe're hitting /v/ levels of cope
Doubt is for the dyingAll guns, on my markAll hopechads follow me to gloryyyy
>>575006429this is kind of a low blow, they ended his career and now they are preventing him from coming backhow much mental damage did his cheese tactics do to them
>>575004980>Pre ordering games from doctored footage.NOI WILL NOT PREORDER I might buy the game, maybe if it turns it's flaws around, but I will NOT PREORDER a tcal game again
>>575005510>half an hour of unedited gameplay>0 second of eldars
Niggers who cares that lasguns arent red beams when that will be a day 0 mod
>>575005809>Yes, it will have the greatest launch of any Total War game in all of historyCmon...
Oh for crying out loud. The reason there isn't red lasers has little to do with muh lore. It's because the game is already going to run like a powerpoint slideshow and having hundreds of beams that need to zero in on individual enemy targets might just blow up every datacentre on the planet
>>575005510>unedited gameplay Anon...
>>575006860Then why is dawn of war 4 and dark heresy also with yellow lasguns?Specially dark heresy, whose predecessor had red lasguns
How long does the troy campaign take? Longer than a WH3 campaign?
>>575006806Very,very safe betThree Kingdoms had the biggest launch of all Total Wars because of chinks, but westerners didn't care about it allChinks love 40k and are now Total War players thanks to Three Kingdoms and TWW3All those chinks WILL buy 40k in addition to westerners too. This is why CA even made a dedicated event for them
>>575005940They would never make Total War 40k, it just wouldnt work. Marines work in loose squads, not square formations. It'd look retarded and no one would buy it.
Wowie zowie game goodGame good and uh....game good.>$.025 can be heard dropping into my bank account
>>575006860https://youtu.be/neXHcn0lV9A?t=38Lost technology...
Well that sure looked like ass
>>574995791Glorious Custodes not included in the troon platoon.
>>575007190It's trueWhy do you think they haven't showed off marines yet
>>575007310Gamescom will be marines
>>575006968Shorter imo, lightning fast turn times as well.
>>575007171>sneaky Alpha Legionarii
>>574994313>>574995878>>574995674>>574994942Books described them vaguely as "energy blasts" initially and then a little later explicitly as beams.All dawn of war did was establish them as being red specifically. And did so almost a decade after they were described as beams.The art never depicted them as firing beams but also never actually depicted the projectiles they fired either.I have no idea why GW is doing this.
>Don't care for Warhammer>Total War won't release shit outside of it for another decade at leastPain
I am now fully convinced that eldar are still on paperWhen one of them were giving examples of units that dont lose much accuracy when moving I kept yelling "Eldar eldar eldar "Yet all the guy used as example were marines and not a single mention of eldarWhich is strange af, since eldar are THE move and gun faction.So if the battle guy didnt remember them, it means he has not started to work on them yetSo yeah, eldar dont exist ingame yet
Can't wait for TCA to add them.
>>575007171>Chinks love 40kWhy the fuck would you think that? The only asian factions in 40k is the white scars and tau and the Chinese hate Mongolians and they hate the Japanese/Indians worse
>>575007771I never gave more than 2 fucks about fantasy yet I endured a decade of fantasyslopIts my time now, fuck off
>>575007771You 2028 MED3 ?
>>575007205blatant shilling and very little discussionI'M NOOOOOTICING
>>575006607the Stormlord is so fucking retardedthe vanilla Baneblade already has more than enough sponson weaponry to wipe out any approaching infantry, you're basically replacing your main source of anti-vehicle damage for a slightly better anti-infantry weapon that isn't even mounted on a turret so if you even want to use your main weapon you first have to rotate your entire building sized tank to shoot at any minor incoming infantry squad and now you can't do dick against approaching heavy vehiclesand as if that wasn't shit enough it has 2/3rds the range of the basic standard battlecanon it's such a shit tank I'm genuinely offended, wouldn't even take it if I knew the enemy stack was nothing but infantry
Imperial Guard (American)Imperial Guard (British)Imperial Guard (German)Imperial Guard (Russian)But where are the Imperial Guard (Chinese)?
>>575007870>Why the fuck would you think that?Because they like it which is why their 40k recasters even are so famousYou don't need a faction to self insert. Chinks like Guard
>>575008079in Yamnin of course
>>575007939Sorry sister but warhammer is for everyone
>>575007981retard
>>575007798They did mention eldar hover tanks can strafe sideways unlike tracked guard vehicles but it's pretty obvious they're the least worked on since we haven't seen anything of them in game
>>575007981No anon! Stop noticing! You clearly want this game to fail!
>no sandbox gameplay modeWhat is the point of total war then?
>>575008009The baneblade's weaponry doesn't quite cut it against massed superheavy infantry attacks from the likes of terminators or meganobs, the stormlord can actually keep those in check on its own.It can also carry a compliment of infantry which assisted by its sponson weapons can deter any flanking attacks from opposing light infantry.
>>575008412Custom battles exist
>>575008412To not buy the game. That's the game
>>575008079
The voice over for the Guard is feeling really low energy to me. No one is screaming their lines. Its like they aren't even fighting.
>>575008412>Every total war since the dawn of time had the decency to have a single player grand campaign map >Except one. 40kDoes NotWorkFor.....
>get gameplay>gameplay looks good>anons say gameplay looks good>SHILL SHILL SHILLLLLLLLkys
>>575008563>2 weeks special operation into the Eye of Terror.
>>575004156It's gonna be kinoCan't wait to see army painter and character creator
>>575008412They'll introduce in a buggy update 6 months to a year after launch
This game could be total dogshit and 40kfags would still love it, the only time 40k hasn't been enough to sell a game to people who make buying $300 plastic army men enough is DoW3, and that's because it exists at the intersection of people who buy $300 plastic army men and people who revere their nostalgia for a 20 year old game. 40kfags exist in the same sphere as Marvelfags where quality is irrelevant and they simply want familiar things dredged up for the one millionth time and waved in front of their face so they can pay for it again. Compare the reactions of this to reactions of any other pre-release TW footage where people rightly point out flaws and you'll see to 40kfags quality is irrelevant. They see things like this and Dawn of War 4 and don't even look for the briefest moment at anything but the dangling keys before repeating a canned line they've heard before. They're even excited to pay for this game despite the fact that it'll take 10 years and $700 to be finished. Hell, they take it all at face value despite the big old "NOT FINISHED SUBJECT TO CHANGE". Good on CA desu, 40kfags deserved to be milked dry
Forgive me Farseer, but I will have to go all out... just this once*teleports behind you* heh, nothing personel monkey
>>575008853Anon real people don't make such sanitized post like "this game is good" or " this game is bad" they'll say something they like about the game or something they don't like.Now post a recipe for banana cream pie
>>575008563saars made it into 40k...
>>575009013Didn't read
>>575009115like this? >>574993340
>>575009179Didn't coom
The only think I not really liked in the stream was the Guard tanks not just crushing the blob of orks around them under their tracks (especially the Baneblade).But at the same time were able to see the Ork Battlewagon do it to guardmen so i don't know ...
So what is the gameplay mode you'll get in 40k? I thought you'd get something like the vortex campaign in 2.
>>574998456Men of war assault squad actually had pretty good flamethrowers even if their range was still a little lacking.
>>575009013I read it and I agree.Just like Blizzdrones
>>575009236No... that's a synopsis... he's just stating the stream highlights. I worry about you anon. You need to touch grass and talk to real humans
>>574993379Is literally the same demo they showed in China
>>575009179giwtwm
>>575009467No, that's listing good features, which make game good
>>575008563BORN TO DIECHAOS IS A FUCK鬼神 Planets Saved: 103I am guards man69,203,699 PURIFIED IMPENITENTS
Hope the game will be out on geforcenow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiNE3SSxIDAIt's up!
>>575009403https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njanDkiImPwYou select your factionYou select premade (Armaggeddon) or generated Flashpoint to playThese can be Immortal Empires sized campaign for Planetary systemWar for a single planetor just a single custom battleEach contributes to your faction
>>574993340>Infinite ammo overall>Most single entities are gone, save for super elites like Stompa. Generals have bodyguardsDoesn't that mean they can't have super powerful ranged weapons that are constrained by ammo, or is it just that all melee units need loads of missile resistance to be worth bringing?
>>575008472This guy banestormhammerswordlords.
>>575008563>Bushmen
>>575009551>that's listing good features, which make game good>Infinite ammoDebatable. Some of these are questionable
>>575009864Isn't it just like tabletop or Dawn of War? You have to close the distance and tie them up in melee
>>574995247There are worse games they could rip-off from
Total War Warhammer 3 how do you get Bhashiva second Quest battle and what do you get from winning it?
>>574995334Gotta make it easy for consoles.
>>574993340>Models have individual lines of sight within unit again, guys in the back might not be able to shootFuck YESTWW rifle squares were so lame but so convenient
>>575009813>contributes to your factionWe're getting faction wars?
>>575009179Jacketfreak hentai comic where sob is strangling to death on thick futa deldar cock (not joking).
Ammo running out is silly and dumb in setting. If you can orbital drop reinforcements you can drop some ammo crates as well
Managing ammo in fantasy is a much simpler process than it would be in 40k where almost everyone on the map uses ammoMaybe infinite ammo is the right choice
>>575010084Es2 had space battles can they go rip off that?
>>575010057Dawn of War and tabletop are a very different kind of balancing, and "time to kill" than how Total War tends to do it.Though I suppose I am being a bit of a panican. >>575010191Personally I'd like supply vehicles with explosives/ammo.
>>575009864>>575010057I don't know why discussion of TW40k makes so many people suddenly not understand how video games work
>>575010172>>575010191These peons not know the extacy of the ammo /devastation mod.Not having the real war factor of mutations and supplies as a mechanic is a good thing actually.You faggots will defend anything
>>575010139Yes, your wins will be uploaded to a global war effort that decides on how the faction balance looks like. Imperium is gonna steamroll this shit like it's the great crusade again.
>>575010462Sounds like another reason not to buy the game anon!
>>575010430you are really upset over all thismaybe a cool towel for your forehead?
I wasn't playing warhammer 1 on release but for both 2 and 3 I remember everyone hating the modes we had to stomach playing before mortal empires. The vortex for 2 and I think for 3 was the chaos realms? I don't even fucking remember.
>>575010172so why not have a system for resupplying your troops on the battlefield then?
>>575010139>>575010462>>575010563I thought they said that every quick battle you do contributes to your personal campaign progress?Either way it sounds dumb.
>>575010430>*Munitions >>575010581I am having a bit of a headache but it's hot and humid where I'm working right now.... only 2 more hours
>>574993479The variety of weapons within a unit is nice. It'll require the AI be able to use it accordingly but I've always wanted being able to switch between sword and spear for a historical (even if it might reduce unit variety). Real dream team would be spear/lance HP.>>574993758So the AI will automatically use grenades? That's good, as the micro of something like men of war can get a bit tedious.>>574995421Shit man that's Rome 2, that's even empire technology since it's just dismounts. 3k is the one that let you have mixed pike/shot (halberd/bow) but they all had to have the same weapon.
>>575010584The Vortex was fine, launch version was rough but everyone thought the DLCs which gave special tasks were a good solutionThe Chaos Realms were universally hated tho, because the Realms were random to an annoying degree.
>>575010170
>No more single entities except some vehicles (and presumably, monsters)Unironically might do more damage to the game than any amount of performance or 'lore' issues, as herohammer would be impossible.
>>575008563SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!
>>575011062herohammer is the gayest shit possible I will kill you for posting this
>>575009813Nice slampig I wonder why she wasn't in today's stream probably busy getting slammed
>>575011104ENHANCE
>>575011104Literally looks likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5niB2xGWv-I
>>575010139To your faction you created. It's like Age of Wonders: Planetfall Empire mode. You beat a campaign in it, you select buffs and such and start next campaign with those goodieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gaTx_rUZec
>>575011062Some powerful units are single units. Something like Magnus whenever they bring in Thousand Sons will be a single unit, for instance. But something like Abaddon goes around with a bodyguard squad.
>>575010172>>575010430>>575010605Lasgun batteries are recharged later, won't run out of ammo during few minutes of battle>>575009864cooldownsthey said that big nuke is something you can't use all the time, those might be limited
But what about the End Times?
Who?
>>575011062There are still single heroes that dont lead units, for example the solitaire
>>575010605uuuuuuhhh....
>>575011770Trailer in a month before gamescom
>>575011315
>>575011594>Lasgun batteries are recharged later, won't run out of ammo during few minutes of battleWould be great if there was still ammo though.Most battles it wouldn't matter, since the typical soldier can easily carry 7 or 8 reloads.For sieges, especially multiple armies versus walls, it could matter bigly.
Battlefleet gothic armada, specifically the second game, demonstrated you can make fun real time tactical naval battles that would fit perfectly in the 40K total war game.
>>575011885>tfw no tankfu to bear me a squad of armored infantry
>>575012084>armies versus wallsI don't think the traditional siege idea of walled settlement and so on works in 40k they can just blow up the walls in seconds I doubt they even bother building them.
>>575008204Those look more Buddhist, like Tibetan or Southeast Asian. Don't really strike me as "chinese" core. Especially with the robes and headpiece that all screams buddhist.>>575008412I mean, what do you mean by that? Campaigns take place across a solar system, and there can be several planets(and moons?) in a system. While some of these are narrative ones and may have a larger connection to a Theatre story, there will be theatres which are more sandbox(likely still have some sort of justification for fighting, just no actual objectives besides conquest/whatever Eldar do.)>>575008563Xenonian' Guard Regiment when?>>575011104Wife
>>575011770when gta 6 launches
>>575011885>died in a german village after she was crushed under the tracks of a Soviet tank whose driver could not see the accompanying people in the darknessfeels bad manmost of the cute girls in those propaganda pics met grisly ends
>>575012454That is okay tho. But an enemy soldier raping her if she was taken prisoner is a "war crime" even though one tramped her into a gelatin mesh and the other one she just had sex without consenting.Very weird values in the world we live in.
>>575012454foid deletedhttps://youtu.be/vZ_vbPVzD34?t=11
>>575012454thats because the soviets are retardedi remember one of their tanks had such piss poor fitting on the turret they couldnt turn it because it would create a ton of sparks and the lubricant they used was flammable
>>57501225940k everything runs on WWI logic, trenches, walls, and bunkers are everywhere, especially versus orks/nids.
>>575012454>On 27 January, Shanina was severely wounded and was later found by two soldiers disemboweled, with her chest torn open by a shell fragment.[53] Despite attempts to save her, Shanina died the following day[53] near the Reichau estate (now Cherepanovo), 3 kilometres (1.9 mi) northwest of the East Prussian village of Ilmsdorf (Novobobruysk [de]).
>it doesn't need good cover mechanics...>it doesn't need ammo limits...>it doesn't need a sandbox campaign...>it doesn't need larger unit sizes...I truly cannot wait for the amazing experience of lining my 64 guys up and eviscerating each other in about 30 seconds because as we all know two ratling gun stacks fighting is an enjoyable $60 game
>>575012858Ruins of stuff, scattered around cover, etc, sure.But like a settlement encircled by a wall that the sieging army is attacking like this? I just can't picture it in 40k
>>575012259>small shitty wall in the forefront>huge wall in the backgroundI mean this literally looks like a TWW siege
>>575013047It's like I'm really on /v/!
>>575012796Made in a hurry with next to no standards with vastly different results from different factories.
>>575011770September.
>>575007823I think the chances of an official playable Lost and the Damned army are slim to none, but I do expect that we will see some traitor guard at least as part of the Chaos Space Marines when they come. Really, I am hoping we will get a basic Traitor roster on launch just for enemy variety, featuring traitor units(and maybe a Chaos Space Marine squad, dare I hope?) purely as an NPC faction.>>575003318While it would kind of suck, I feel like its not impossible that transports may be Eldar and Space Marines only. Basically only for factions with small enough units to actually fit in a single transport(since even Chimeras are Single Entities). Meanwhile squads of SMs in this game should have no issue fitting into a Land Raider, likewise with Eldar into a wave serpent.
>Wow this preview looks coolHave the people saying this forgotten about the stories they were spinning in the prerelease phase of Rome 2? And how that game turned out on release?
>>575013247that doesnt make the soviets not retarded
>>575013441Bro, the braindead ork AI is just for show, real battle AI is going to be completely different.
>>575013515>braindead ork AIBoth factions were controlled by humans
>>575013441I don't think the majority of people paying attention were around for Rome 2, let alone pre-Warhammer
>>575013515It wasn't braindead ork AI though it was someone playing orks and doing braindead things to show like >hey I can destroy cover with my vehicle>proceeds to suicide run the vehicle alone
>>575012702It's not difficult to separate actions which are necessary in a war to defeat a foe against actions that are not necessary. Moreover, doing unwanted, degenerate things against civilians/prisoners will almost certain land that soldier in the we-are-going-to-rip-out-your-organs list the moment that civilian/prisoner gets hold of a weapon and has the opportunity.
>>575007798I believe this tooIf they even had high poly models they would give them to Platige Image or whoever the fuck else makes those cinematics, as it's always done. And then Eldar would be used within the reveal trailer. Instead it's only Orks from planet to planet and Eldar merely get a teaser.Very blatant that they barely exist
>>575013674Just because it's necessary it doesn't make it okay. Killing people is still the ultimate crime and war is killing upped to 11. But for some reason war is okay but if a media shows up rape it's suddenly problematic. Can't you see how weird that is?
IT'S UP!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp-Ub3PPZ94
>>575013649>>575013672This is not true. There was only one guy playing, Will controlling the IG. The Orks were controlled by AI. That said, it is true that the Ork AI in this video is deliberately dumb(or so CA says) hence them rushing every unit ahead with little real strategy(and hence why the Battlewagons, as the fastest unit, always just rushed ahead to be blown up).
BUT CONSOLES WILL MAKE THE GAME WITH LESS FEATUUUREEESSSS
>>575013921Well they fucking lied then because they said it was being played live by humanSSS in the stream.
>>575013441Completely different. For Rome 2 they showed premade cinematic quest battle and cinematic features of it were memed as core features of the game, like sergeants hyping up troops within the siege tower
>>575013921You fucking retard, he's talking about the AI for the unit behavior when you move them.
>>575013905>I wanna maek a wee ironic shih'posd>Should ah maek it aboot 3 minits?>Nawww I should dee it for haff an hoor
>>575014009>Well they fucking lied40keks in for a ride lel
>>575008472They have essentially same weaponry except Stormlord swaps out Mega Battle Cannon on a turret, its coaxial autocannon and anti-infantry Demolisher cannon for single hull-fucking-mounted Vulcan Mega Bolter on least manouverable tank ever plus ability to carry 40 troopers on OPEN TOP compartment. Its absolutely retarded. Just throw away the Vulcan and give the infantry a topped compartment, you'll never hit anything with it unless the target literally walks into your barrels. In a nutshell its trading turreted anti-tank/anti-heavy infantry coaxial gun + mortar for ability to carry 40 troopers on open-top deathtrap
>>575013441I was here back in rome 2They tried to hide the game at all costs while showing in engine narrative trailersDont speak as if this is the same
>>575007798Reminds me of Vampire Counts when WH1 was coming out, remember how they didn't talk about or show Vampire Counts for months after other factions had been seen? I partly get where you are coming from, and I think the likelihood that the Orks, Guard, and SM's have been the most developed so far is pretty high, but I would not say they are still on paper necessarily. I guess the real moment of truth will be Gamescom.>>575008261TBF he did also just call them the Eldar hover tanks, IIRC he did not name any which would indicate a lack of familiarity while he was happily namedropping Assault Intercessors and Repulsors. But maybe that guy just isn't a huge Eldar fan. And there may be other devs working on other factions battle design.
>>575014110That's pathing when you talk about the AI here people are obviously going to assume you're talking about the AI controlling armies or AI on the campaign, so on. Not that the unit pathed through an obstacle to the right instead of the left.
>>575014009They only pointed to one guy in the stream and it seemed pretty clear it was just them as the IG player. I don't recall them saying it was between multiple players ever.>>575014110retard.
I love kasrkin they're so ducking cool cool as name too
>>575013905He must be desperate for attention
>>575014635>kasrkinHow do you even pronounce it
>>575013905Let me guessHe spends 30 mins saying how everything is shit and ca is a disgrace?
>>575014772kah-sir-kin? idk I'm ESL but seems pretty self explanatory
>>575014189>on least manouverable tank everBaneblade variants have equal mobility to a leman russ.>Just throw away the Vulcan and give the infantry a topped compartmentThe infantry is supposed to jump out once they're actually in combat>you'll never hit anything with it unless the target literally walks into your barrelsStormlords hit their targets all the time.
>The historical game sucked, therefore, the 40K game must also suck...Dude, give it a break. Total War: Warhammer 40,000 is looking to be the greatest strategy game ever developed.
what kind of attacks will their armour defend against?
>Warhammer 40k STILL has no thaumancy annunkushoping for that Chaos Votann model line release in the late 2020's!
>>575015090It looks like a return to form for CA and I plan to have a blast playing it.
>>575014772more like COCKskins lmaoooooo>verification? not required!
They're hiding the Steel Legion models just like the Eldar....r-right?
>>575015221>Shrapnel
>>575013905I hate his faggy Scottish accent n voice man it's painful to listen to
>>57501344140keks will slurp no matter what
I can't really tell if some of these posts are from people just trying to bait for attention or if they are genuinely upset there are people looking forward to a game.
>>575015221Rebellious Guardsmen and other assorted human rebels' weapons like stubbers and lasguns. Gretchen shootas. Shrapnel from explosions... and that's about it. >>575015024NTA but if the barrels are actually mounted to the hull and can't be moved on their own it sounds like they only hit stuff because the writer says they do.
>>575015221>flak armor with carapaceLas fire and shrapnel, can eat a .50 cal or bolter round if you're lucky
You know how Warhammer units have shields to block ranged attacks?40K units will have evasion that can avoid ranged attacks.Also, heroes and lords will still have ward save. It is called "damage resistance".
>>575015701yes
>>575015393GW are currently in the process of developing new Steel Legion models, as per the video and images after the trailer.The lore reason for why there weren't any in the Armageddon trailer is that the world has been in so many conflicts for so long that the Steel Legions have been functionally obliterated. Krieg and Cadian Shock have been imported from other worlds to fill the ranks. As much as some people dislike this lore, I think it makes perfect sense. GW will cook up something to regenerate them once they return.
>>575015729I'm not huge on 40k lore, isn't bolter the weapons that basically only space marines and sisters use because it has a recoil so strong you basically need power armor (or space marine super body) to not break your arm?
>>575008853kekaroooo seeetharooooo
>>575015726The hull rotates to sweep formations with the stream of fire, the main armament can elevate or depress.
>>575015852There are human sized boltguns. You can use them in Darktide and on the tabletop, they are usually in the hands of sergeants, commissars and inquisitors.
>don't manually align units with coverAlright, so no weird wall placement shenaniga->units automatically take cover in the area you drag them to set inThere is no way this will not be the most frustrating thing in the game. I cannot wait for post after post of units spinning in circles or standing still in the open as they try to take cover. How busted will it be? Will units have their cover taken or already gone and just freeze up? Will there be conga lines of people queued for cover spots like the single file lines of Shogun 2? Every single TW to use cover has been jank as hell with it, and even games like CoH or DoW2 have trouble with auto-cover selection. Hell, CoH1 had this very same thing where units would auto-select cover and it was so busted you would see guys playing musical chairs around barrels. I guaran fucking tee this is going to be a siege situation where it is infinitely reworked and even if all else is buttery smooth this will be broken
>>575016005go back to /v/
>>575015701It helps if you ignore the bait instead of replying to it.
>>575015852Space marine bolters are about the size of a human body at this point, humans can't use those for a number of reasons.Smaller scale bolters are used by sisters of battle and humans outside of power armor. Bolt pistols(small) are popular among commissars and arbites.
>buckbroken about /v/SADBesides that is dbs slang not /v/ spam
>Openly admitting to being from /v/(you) are the brownest retard gorilla nigger ever to be given access to the white mans internet
bros I'm going to buy those funkopops tw40k is going to be sooo goood
not that big desu
>>575014772https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWGBJtlCvnc
>>575014189thats because stormlord is a variant of a variant that doesnt have a rotating turret, just one xbox hueg cannon designed for hunting titans
>>575014114>>575014647>>575014780seething redditorshe fucking WON!
>>575016998the raped competition
>>575016676>racismyikes warhammer is for everyone chuddy
Agri worlds look comfy. My understanding of civilized is that it's a world that wasn't given a designation so it just evolved naturally into different things like how earth works right now.
>>575017148The high definition of features you can see from that distance really makes it look like these planets are pretty small.
>>575016927That's the shadowsword.
>>575013905VolGOD destroying CA with facts and logic
When are they adding the main characters (Chaos)?
so how shit was the 40k gameplay?
*sniveling gay voice*yeeeeah just as I thought look at this dlc potential of course nobody will buy it*gayest giggle ever*look at this*gay fag voice again*they'll proper flop look at this whose gonna buy all this DLC no unit collision either*opens TWcenter*look at what they're saying here*gay giggle*just as I thought everyone's roasting them*gay voice*this company... I don't care or anything but I'll observe this dumpster fire by the way I'm streaming eu4 bbc only tomorrow drop by
>>575017605Chaos Daemons is probably the very first DLC because it's just assets reuse from fantasy.The different chaos space marine factions (undivided and 1 for each god) might be a while later so they don't do a lot of chaos all at once.
>>575016892Red lasguns, not canon
>>575017719Boring. Tank having multiple guns was neat
>>575017367yeah, the stormlord is a variant of the shadowsword, not a baneblade
>>575017148Basically. Civilzed worlds are probably the most "normal" worlds in the Imperium but they can still have their issues. I like how the Agri worlds look, not going for the super grimdark interpretation of them basically being fertilzed into a hellscape.>>575017296Having a wheat field that is visible fromspace seems suitably 40K.But really, it's only a concept. However we know the worlds are not too huge, they are not like Immortal Empire size. They will have several provinces per planet, with a big system probably still not having as many individual regions as IM across its planets, though it may come close. I imagine planet size will also vary(Armageddon for example being bigger and having more regions to fight over).
the dumbest grimderp thing is corpse starch, and all 40k niggas online think it's like a common thing but I think it's supposed to be like underhive slop not smth the average ever eat
>>575017847Lost, like tears in the rain
>>575018969It's common food on hive worlds, worlds governed by the adeptus mechanicus, and as imperial guard rations.
>>575018969>corpse starchThe majority of food comes from Agri-worlds. To quote the Lords of Silence novel:>The Imperium is not a gentle custodian of such places. After discovery of a candidate planet, the first fifty years are spent in terraforming according to well-worn Martian procedures. All pre-existing life is scrubbed from the rocks, either by the application of controlled virus-chewers or by timed flame-drops. The atmosphere is regulated, first through the actions of gigantic macro-processors and thereafter by a land-based network of control units, more commonly referred to as command nodes. Weather, as least as generally understood, disappears. Rainfall becomes a matter of controlled timing, governed by satellites in low orbit and kept in line by fleets of dirigibles. The empty landscape is divided up into colossal production zones, each patrolled by crawlers and pest-thopters. Millions of base-level servitors are imported, kept at the very lowest level of cognitive function but bulked up by a ruthless level of muscle-binders.>Soon after this process completes, every agri world looks exactly the same; a flat, wind-rummaged plain of high-yield crops swaying towards the empty horizon. A person could walk for days and never see a distinctive feature. Not that anyone sane would choose to walk in such places – the industrial fertiliser dumps are so powerful that they turn the air orange and make it impossible to breathe unfiltered. A single growing season exhausts the soil completely, requiring continual delivery of more sprays of nitrates and phosphates, all delivered from the grimy berths of hovering despatch flyers. The entire world is given over to a remorseless monoculture, with orthogonal drainage channels burning with chem-residue and topsoil continually degrading into flimsier and flimsier dust.
>>575019378>But that doesn’t matter. A planet can be driven like this for thousands of years before it eventually keels over and becomes a death world. The quality of the crops gets steadily worse, but the quantity can be sustained almost indefinitely, assuming that supply lines are maintained and imports remain consistent. At the end of every season, the great harvester leviathans are stoked up and dragged from their pens and let loose on the grey fields, smokestacks belching and tracked undercarriages sinking deep. These massive creatures of high-sided metal and intricate pipework, the smallest of which are a hundred metres long, crawl across the blasted prairies, sucking up every last speck of pallid grain and piping it directly to antiseptic internal hoppers. Feed-landers come down from high flight, dock with the still-trundling leviathans and extract the raw material, from where it is taken into the city-sized processor vats, blasted with antibiotics, smashed, burned, crushed, then stamped and packaged. Once ready for transport, containers are dragged up into orbit aboard swell-bellied landers, ready for transfer to the void-bound mass conveyers, which deliver the refined product to every starving hive world and forge world in their long circuits.There is a quaint tradition in the various propaganda departmentos of the Administratum of marketing agri worlds as quasi-paradises, free of the squalor and overcrowding of a standard urban station, and full of bucolic ease. Vid-cards are dropped into communal hab-warrens, extolling the virtues of a life lived outdoors with the sun on your back and a ruddy-faced boy or girl by your side. In reality, life on an agriworld is as unrelenting, back-breaking and monotonous as the vast majority of other Imperial vocations. There are no trees laden with glossy fruit, only kilometre after kilometre of hissing corn. There are no gentle strolls under the warming sun, only punishing work details in rad-suits.
>>575018969pretty sure in canon most of what they eat is processed cornslop made on agriworldsguardsmen too, most of them subsist on absolutely rancid MREs that may have spent centuries lost in a warehouse somewhere for all they know
>>575019058This is atmospheric distortion. The unique chemical composition of the planet's air combined with planet's illumination from the unique properties of its sun creates the appearance of red and beams. That this phenomena is never seen again henceforth when GW reminds devs the lasguns are yellow and don't shoot beams is mere coincidence
>equip your marines with volkite weaponsnothing personell kid
>>575019614no, they eat grox rations, only wagies eat corn slop
>>575017043Except for the poor
>>575020036>the orange glow of the weapon reflecting off the gauntletsvery nice
>>575018638>they are not like Immortal Empire size. They will have several provinces per planetRight I was talking more in the general way like lore I guess as opposed to gameplay wise.
>>575018638>>575020745>they are not like Immortal Empire sizeImagine though if in the actual game each planet was IE sized. You'd need thousands of turns to do a full campaign.Some madman out there is going to make a mod for this isn't he?
>centuriesNigga it's foodThat's just grimderp
>>575021281meant to quote >>575019614
I gave enough time for doomers to bend the kneeIf you are still a doomer be ready, and keep your doors locked
>>575020331People who paint glow details on minis amaze me.
>>575022009From what I understand it's not as hard as you'd imagine, the glow bits are mostly with dry painting which is fairly simple.
>>575022104It's more about the knowledge of the correct places of where to put the glow than. Like, look at Archaon's leg there. That's good shit.
>>575022009damn thats niceas a guy who can barely draw a stick figure thats impressive looking stuff
/twg/gers!! After the livestream are we back or is it so over? Is this becoming 'coal' or is it 'gemmed'?
>>575022673Drawing and painting a model that is already there are very different.
>>575022829Im sorry, I don't speak or understand retard
>>575022829im thinking its gemmed but I hold out on for reals judgement to see if its bussin or nah until after gamescon on god
>>574993340As a complete doomer on TW40k with 0 faith in CA to make it good and proper, how we looking today? I haven't paid any attention because I'm much more invested in Fantasy TW.
>>575022673Yeah as anon said, drawing on a blank canvas and painting a 3d model are almost completely different skills. Some of the theoretical knowledge transfers, but the technique is just radically different. When I was younger I could paint some decent minis, when I got into drawing and painting later in life, it was like, shit, I'm a total noob at this.
>>575022829The game will release as coal, but under immense pressure (seethe from community), it will form into diamond.
>>575022829I think its gemmed m8
>>575023205check the vid and see for urself just fast fowrard to the gameplay idk why ppl ask this for 3rd party opinions
I just love the new reinforcement system, really gives the feeling of having to fight through multiple defensive lines
Alright doubters or hopeposters, the most important question is at hand.Where are the funny/meme gifs from the stream?
If 40k becomes a hit I'm quitting TW forever
imperium bros...
>>575021281>grimderpwhat exactly is "grimderp" about it? in real life people have eaten 160 year old hardtack and 120 year old canned food, is the concept of preservatives and inefficient bureaucracy "grimderp" now?
>>575013649Wait, so the orks were played by a single player fantasoi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSuPlsZ9PBE
>>575024467the average IRL MRE lifespan is 5 years, try living off 160 year old crackers and see if you can fight a battle afterwards, sun tzu thousands of years ago said that an army marches on its stomach, any semi effective fighting force needs at the minimum nutritional food and you can't get that with "centuries old" MREs from werehouses, its still foodit doesn't make logical sense, even in the most decrepit tragic fascist state imaginable, thus its grimderp, corpse starch itself makes sense ig for the most depraved situations in 40k such as penal batallions that are fodder anyway or undercity, but not for the avg guardsman imo, well at least the starch should be made relatively fresh
>>575024731wait napoleon said that shit not sun tzu mbwell sun tzu said some shit about food too
>>575024149Goodbye anon
>>575024608No. The orks were controlled by neutered AI
to'al wah wahamma foy fawsan
seeing lines of IG firing with no red lasers feels so wrongbut regardless of how they do it they need to make weapon firing flashierthe gunsmoke and muzzle flash of TWWH makes gunlines look so cool and in the ranged combat stream it felt like i could barely even tell if infantry were actually shooting
>>575026148Is there any other kind?
>>575026616Red lasers were always cringe. This is better. Deal with it.
>>575026707uncomfortable trvthke is that if they actually added AI that was as smart as the avg mid elo mp player in battles nobody would find it fun
whats the deal with these random red hobo barrels everywhere
>>575026945Red barrels always explode if you shoot them, duh.
>>575026945Made for consols players.
>>575026787Not him, it's literally worse. Red lasers would look much better for the guard.
Final histoid chud summarily executed by big booty banshee squad after release of the 40k sex update. circa 2029. His last words were "we should have destroyed Carthage"
There have been some surveys done and the majority of people don't realize those are supposed to be laser guns. They think they're just regular bullets.
>>575026945I dunno Valve is weird
>>575026945would you prefer yellow paint
>>575029104That's because they look like regular bullets. It is the most utterly retarded idea to have a LASER GUN not shoot a LASER BEAM.They also have slug throwers in the lore, and they could have a particle rifle thing for their yellow bolt autism. But the LASGUN should should a LASER.
>showcase so good the only thing to argue about is the color of lasers 40k won so hard it isn't even funny.
>>575030074I have to take my hat off to caThey delivered
>>575030074When I saw those ogryns shooting while backpedalling it was when I knew this shit was kino
Why are fantasy shitters still here? Fuck off this is a 40k general. I’ll shit in your tub before I approve of you cretins sharing this space with me.
>>575020036Did they finally bring volkite to 40k? I thought the original intent was to NEVER allow volkite and phosphex into 40k to mechanically show how far the Imperium has fallen.
>>575030604least obvious falseflag
>>575030675they are in boltgun
>>575030675its neo volkite now and mech has some phosphex weapons
>>575030675boltgun had a volkite weapon you could get pretty early and space marine 2 has a volkite pistolit's because cawl figured out how to make them again just like all the other archeotech
>>575030074What I didn't like was the map. Yea yea I get it, it's a hive world, but the brown upon brown upon brown just made it look ugly. Yes, that might be the intention, but I didn't like the map itself.
Resident leaker here.Don't worry about the effects, they know about it, they're focused on getting the features and mechanics right so they don't have to rework shit soon enough.They'll go through VFX still (some of it is already done in the new build for gamescon)Also every faction coming to the game, including the base ones are getting some new shit from tabletop, just like nazdreg, hopefully you like space elf waifus.
>>575031282You sure it's phosphex not phosphor? Because phosphex is supper haram to the Imperium after the heresy and considered a borderline daemon not actual incendiary.
>>575030074One thing I would argue is that based on the gameplay, what is the point of shock troops? They die to anything and they don't do a lot of damage. Kasrkin and Ogryns at least have their own specific roles. Ork Boyz, as vulnerable as they seem (lore being 'tough' my arse) at least function as a melee tarpit. Cadian shock troops seem like the equivalent of panic recruitment spearmen and archers because an enemy force is coming.
>>575028313
>>575031647those are the same weapons
>>575028313But I'm a histoid and I love big booty space elf women
>>575030074As soon as I saw the different unit types + every single one of them with different weapons and abilities I was sold.I asked for wargear and this is above and beyond of what I wanted.
>>575032252Nope phosphex is a living green flame that crawls towards living beings after it finishes killing it's original target(also it burns with no oxygen and it's fire isn't hot but absolute zero, burns in vacuum, underwater, etc). Phosphor is just normal fire weapon. Oh and the phosphex STC was destroyed for being to inhuman after the heresy.
>>575032368no sir, you are not a "histoid" you are merely an enjoyer of military history/Total war like the majority of us areA histoid is a foul creature stuck forever in the year 2011 who can't accept someone playing with their toys/games the "wrong way"They are usually bald, fat and retarded
>>575032123*SNIFFF* *SNORRT* *SNIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFF*
>it's happening in real time (strategy)>the thread is turning into a 40k threadIt's settling in brothers
>>575032252They aren't. If the Imperium still had phosphex it wouldn't struggle against tyranids or necrons at all.
Phosphor just burns in 40k. Phosphex wants to kill the person that unleashed and will actively crawl the battlefield to kill you and everything on it's way and there is no known way to put it out. In the heresy it's so horrible that even Death Guard didn't want to use it. Pretty cool stuff. Said to even consume the souls of it's victims.
>>575032565nope, theyre the same now, and its just naplam, and it was only destroyed 2000 years ago, which is a nothing burger>>575032797nope, only mech uses itand the reason why they struggle with tyranids is getting to those planets because of the shadow in the warp, and necrons just return
>>575033449>nope, theyre the same nowSo there is no moving templates that chase your units in 40k? LAME!
>>575031632>hopefully you like space elf waifusyeah I can't wait
>>575033449>nope, only mech uses itQuite literally wrong since a bunch of AdMech use phosphor weapons like the pteraxi. It's definitively not the same.
That gameplay has made me very excited. I hope I get closed beta access, I should do because I signed up whilst they were still talking about it back during the PC Games stream weeks ago.
>>575033689Andy Law is permanently is seethe mode over this. He claims they should all be big titty curvy elves according to lore and that CA are cowards.
>>575033854thisI signed up the day after they announced it but I never get picked for these kind of things
>>575033854>>575034026you motherfuckers better record and share here everything
>>574994302>No taking over critical locations like holy terra or gorkamorkaCan someone post a source for this?
>>575033619that was never a thing, that was just a description from some book about some guy watching some dude firing it at some other guy>>575033780they made it the same, also those torches are red, instead of white, so theyre probably just promethium fires instead of a chemical fire
>>575034429>or gorkamorkaSacred Necron land mortal.
UN-CREATIVE ASSEMBLYTHE VAMPIRE REWORKI'M ALMOST DONE ASKING
>>575032123If you can't goon to Banshees in full wraithbone and need the exposed skin, you need to get out of here.
>>574997345>HANDGUNNERSHopefully some chud can replace the bullets with red lasers with mods because this is really fucking sad.
>>575034482>that was never a thingThe defining trait of phosphex weapons is LITERALLY the "crawling fire" special rule that allows you to move the phosphex blast marker.
>>575035160well not anymore, its been retconnedand it looks like they wrote themselves into corner which is why they did
>>575035046Hey someone mentioned big booty banshees and I remembered that picI got a full suit of armor fetish, I have no issues with Eldar armor
>>575035463Dude you can literally check every single rule in 40k in one search. There isn't a single word about phosphex weapons in 40k you must be confused.
>>575035701yeah because its 30k, you understand that horus heresy is on its 3rd edition
i guess the buffs helped cathay, played 2 campaigns and it never got dominated by chaos
>>575035887helps having 3 LL factions so close together
>>575035586do banshees screech like banshees
>>575037496that's why they're called howling banshees
>>575037496they screech like banshees when they orgasm riding their guard boyfriends
run little horsey, run away to freedom
>one minor settlement>3 full stacks + another weak armyidk even what are the french doing and how are they doing it
>>575038163I love the little deer minding their own business that run away if any unit approacheslove the whales too, the animals make the world feel much more alive
>>575039176nta but Warhammer rly lacks detail and that's a big flaw, passive animals npcs buildings in the battle maps, all lacking, compare it to Pharaoh which had whole ass ecosystems of hippos n shit, I think that kinda stuff can't exist in WH due to the spaghetti code
>>575039513As if Pharoah wasn't built on the exact same spaghetti code. It's spaghetti all the way down back to at least Empire when the current engine started.
>>575040617yeah but its not 3 separate games frankenstein'd together
>>575040617the Bulgarians disentangled a lot of spaghetti, Pharaoh runs much better than previous games
>>575037740I just finished a 40k match against astra militarum playing as necrons so this pic is almost a depiction of what just happened. Close enough.
Okay thats great and all but where is the Eldar battle
>>575041189You know that thing in your pic is a different faction right?
how the hell do you even confederate the other empire factions while not being franz? I have so many more armies than these minor guys but they wont confederate at -6, are you just supposed to wipe them out with elspeth?
>>575041189>>575041323harlquens or whatever are the worst eldarliteral clowns
>>575042053I don't remember if they were ever their own faction, I think they might have been at one point. But now they've been reduced to druhkari units.
>>575042053They're just the eldar's equivalent of the inquisition
>WAAH WAAH WHY IS THERE NO AMMO AND LOGISTICSBecause not all factions use it and the fact that retards just look at imperial guard, while not thinking about the implications it would have if a handful of factions would need to deal with ammo and replenishment of it, while others (like Necrons, nids etc) can just keep shooting forever cause it's never been a thing for them. It would completely fuck up the balancing and they would need to either come up with dumb ways to force factions like necrons and tyranids to use arbitrary ammo, or they would need to be nerfed in their damage output to compensate. Both are unfun options
>>575042837The factions were never balanced around ammo anyway. It's not a thing.
>>574999183Projectiles move really slowly, especially the big shells, and the impact of the main canon animation leaves a bit to be desired. Compare to DoW 20 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0jQJpli0n0
>>575034567Isn't it already confirmed for end times dlc?
>>575008964delete this
>>575043391total war has to be a little slow, classic rts are much faster, or at least 90% are
>>575041189Warp Spiders will be so broken backline annihilators.
are world eaters or necrons confirmed as a playable faction in tw40k?the video is like 2h long
>>575044276No you lazy fuck
>>575044276I don't think they are going to confirm any DLC before release, it would cause a shitstorm.And most people are assuming the first one will be daemons because they already have the models made.
>>575044276There is no Necron and no Chaos Space Marines factions at launch.
Honestly what would be you reaction if the first DLC faction actually turned out to be T'au?
>>575044124Gameplay pace can be tweaked with things like time to kill, adjustments to HP, rate of fire etc.. Slowing down animations detracts from the visual impact. I think it'd look better if those heavy bolter turrets were shooting munition that travelled 4x faster - fewer rounds in the air at a given moment but with longer tracer trails and zippier speed. Hard to judge the feel of this kind of thing without playing but these decisions matter a lot
>already thinking about dlcsCA has conditioned you well
There are only 4 factions of course people are thinking about DLC's. Are you dense? You can creamapi them anyway.
>>575045272"Waow."(BASED BASED BASED)
>>574999183>>575045294I mean just play that video at 2x speed to see what I mean
>>575042837>Because not all factions use it and the fact that retards just look at imperial guard, while not thinking about the implications it would have if a handful of factions would need to deal with ammo and replenishment of it, while others (like Necrons, nids etc) can just keep shooting forever cause it's never been a thing for them. It would completely fuck up the balancingHahahahahhaOh anon anon anon anon anon. We are sooo past that point. >WoC>Tk>Skaven>Chaos dwarfs >All the monogods>Beastmen>Recently vampire counts All have bullshit mechanics that put them above or below everyone else and ruin the game for or against the player, but they were allowed to exist and even praised. Do you know why? Because it's "THEMATIC" as long as it ties into the lore single player balance can go fuck itself. I don't give a flying fuck if adding munitions mechanics makes your campaigns as guard miserable. You didn't care about sp balance before. Managing munitions and supplies is a huge theme with the imperial guard and therefore it should go in.CopeSeetheDilate
HERE WE ARE TO THE GATES OF THE MOUNTAI-ACK
Also guard are heavily reliant on space marine support so they should have to rely on the space marine ai. Have them spend money on a distress beacon and from then on there's a 10% chance a space marine stack will spawn on their location. They don't control said stack and in fact are issued a quest by them and will declare war on them if the quest is not completed.The guard is supposed to suck
>>575047046>heavily reliant on space marine supportPretty sure the vast majority of guard activity across the galaxy has 0 astartes support.
>>575047046>>575047129And game wise, they are not supposed to suck at all. They might suck, but they are not supposed to. Game wise every faction is designed to be on similar terms.
>>575047273>Game wise every faction is designed to be on similar terms.No anon. That's what you want. But wh3 had hard and easy factions. IG is an ideal candidate for a hard faction.>>575047129Right right...and uh... what's the in lore win rate of those unsupported guard regiments again? Here's a hint anon the imperium is a dying empire and a guardsmen's life is to die
>>575047675>guardsmen's life is to dieYou're thinking about the individual guy. The guard is billions strong. Trillions, even. The individual dude is there to die. But the guard as a whole is not as bad as you think. They can quite literally throw millions of people at problems and not give a shit.Obviously they sometimes need and do get astartes support. But this idea t hat they don't do anything or that they heavily rely on astartes support, etc. I really don't agree with.
>>575047675the imperium will literally never die as 40k wouldn't exist wo it
>>575047046What? No. Fucking stupid ass secondary take.
>>575047046>>575047129Ooh and for extra extra lore let's have effects based on what chapter comes to help>Dark angels>Bonus to plasma weapons but the stack will be tracking down a random hero (enemy or ally). The stack leaves when that>White scars>Buffs cavalry and makes vehicles faster >Space wolves>Buffs melee, will attack inquisition if you're at war with them>Imperial fists >Buff melee defense and discount for buildings>Blood angels>Buffs replenishment, but small chance to kill 1 unit you have>Iron hands>Makes all machines tankier. Will convert your infantry into combat servitors if they perform well.>Salamanders>Buffs public order and gives fire damage if not buffed already >Raven guard >Buffs hero actions you have and resistance to hero actions on you.>Ultramarines >Removes chaotic taint and increases diplomacy with ultramar>Black templars>Attacks the army or settlement with the most corruption. You or them.
>>575048607>Blood RavensYour treasury hits at zero for every turn they exist
>>575041323I know that harlequins are part of the eldar army and have been since at least dawn of war.
>>575046941wait since when did squats have mechs
>>575047046IGs win 95% of all the wars, there's only a handful of major campaigns where Spess Mehreens are required.Spess Mehreens also do their own thang regardless of a minor or major campaign, only a handful of chapters actually go out of their way to help and support the IG in their efforts and only a handful of Spess Mehreen individuals can corral multiple chapters under one unified command (usually only Dante, whomever the Raven Guard chapter master is, Calgar and Logan).Your average Guardsman will live and die not encountering a Spess Mehreen.
>>575048025>You're thinking about the individual guy. The guard is billions strong. Trillions, even.I'm thinking about at least a regiments worth. Whatever was on that planet that fell because nobody cared enough about it. Put whatever number you want m8 >>575049078>IGs win 95% of all the wars,Lol lmao
>>575048963I dunno about 40 years ago?
>Imperial GuardYou know there's no faction in 40k called that, right?
>>575046941By the Emperor thats terrible design. >>575047046>guard are heavily reliant on space marine supportHoly lorelet. The vast majority of humans, including guardsmen, will never see a space marine in their lifetime. If marines arrive on the battlefield you know shit has hit the fan. People only ever hear of the stories with marine + guard because those tend to be most exciting.>the guard is supposed to suckYeah if you are an individual soldier, maybe. Baseline humans appear weak but only because everything else in the setting is grimderp overkill. But as said already there are untold billions of soldiers the Imperium. Their strength lies in numbers. >pic relatedA 10,000~ year old chaos marine veteran of the long war can mow down guardsmen with ease, but it only takes 1 out of the hundreds of thousands deployed against you to get close enough to wreck your shit. That, or you cant kill them fast enough and get swarmed by a limitless tide of pissed off guardsmen
>>575049357Yes they do, there are only about 300~ recorded Spess Mehreen chapters out there, 298 of them being Codex compliant aka 1000 Spess Mehreens or even less depending on casualties so not all of them are always at full strengthBlack Templars are around 10k~ at all times and Space Wolves around 4k-8k depending on which wank book and author they getMeanwhile there are a bajillion Guardsmen with billions dying daily across the Imperium
>>575047046>>575047675>>575049357This is some supreme bait holy moly, 40keks coming out in droves
>>575049457Did they rename it or something?
>>575049809Faction names were retconned so GW could copyright them Guard - Astra MilitarumMarines - Adeptus AstartesEldar - AeldariDark elves - DrukhariAnd so on. But no one actually calls them that.
>>575050030It's weird that they went with something as generic as Kin for the space dwarfs, when they had Demiurg sitting there.
this is literally the only place where people care about the "dwarfs" in 40k, nobody cares about em, least of all GW
I will always refer to them as dawn of war taught me>imperial guard>eldar>dark eldar>sisters of battleI'm surprised GW still calls them "space marines" on a regular basis
>>575050443>this is literally the only place where people care about the "dwarfs" in 40knobody here cares about nusquats
>>575033689>Give the witch elves scrawny, emaciated, almost manly looking bodies>Make the Death Hag hero super sexoLegitimately, what did CA mean by this?
All of guard victories are because one of the following:>IG outnumbered the enemy 10,000 to 1. (They still lost 70%)>IG are supported by a more competent faction likes astartes, custodes, inquisition, mechanicum, sorroitas, imperial navy, or even xenos and heretics who feel bad for them.>IG straight up lost, but the administratum fudged the numbers and shoots anyone who says otherwise.>Orks and tyranids were shitposting and IG had armor support. This is usually followed by orks / nods getting stronger somehow and overcoming them nexttime>The enemy is traitor guard not supported by chaos astartes which is really just guard losing to guard.>A named character was there. ( They later leave and the guard dies after)These are your 95% wars won guardfags
>>575046941They just look so out of place.If I didn't already know and someone told me these were 40k models I'd never believe them, I'd assume these were models for one of those random tabletop wargames nobody cares about, like warmachine or infinity.
>>575050925So, you're saying the Guard wins when they're they main characters, but they're usually not the main characters.
>>575050925this anon is going to be livid when he sees people rolling campaigns with stacks of 19 guardsmen
>>575051076Not necessarily, but that's a really good point anon. Gold star for you.Imperials love calling xenos npcs but just because you're allies doesn't mean you're important. Is there any imperial faction more NPC coded than imperial guard? Why should we care about them if GW doesn't?
>>575050607she's speshulAlso, for the record I love the sinewy bodies of the witch elvesimagine the grip strength
I miss legend....
>>575051070I think it's because GW decided to make the Leagues of Votann NASApunk for some reason. Their shit generally has a more grounded space aesthetic in a setting that usually goes for over-the-top rule of cool designs.
Mindraped tertiaries already seething about the guard, this general will never be comfy again
I WILL pre-order the $150 versionI WILL play the betaI WILL purchase every dlc that comes out
>>575045774You're retarded, genuinely
>>575051291I like the classic witch elves
I don't know what everyones going on about, the guard has a ton of flavor and memorable charactersThey also fill a great niche in the game and I plan to play the shit out of them they're my 2nd favorite after DA BOYZ
>>575051261 Guard hold the line just fine without Marines. 95% of the wars the Imperium fights are just the Guard and no Marines.And the Guard do just fine.Also, xenos are NPC factions for NPC drones. That's why Eldar have current models that are old enough to drink. Even though the finally refreshed some last edition.
>>575051362Maybe you should have had his back
>>575050925You forgot>IG are actually genestealer cultists linked by a psychic broodmind and refuse to cede the planet to ork filth or chaos faggots
Do you think we can force GW to revert lasguns?
>>575051427They end up looking like starcraft 2 terran units.
>>575051837No they'll just call you a chud and a racist while acting like they're not driving their IP into the ground
>>575051837>do you think GW will backpedal on their retarded pointless decisionNo.It will be fixed by a mod that's comically easy to make like a week after the game launches.
>>575051837I cant imagine caring enough to even email themlike >>575052048 said it will be fixed by a mod shortly after release
>>575051586You know what i applaud ca for not making the closed beta a buyfag only thing when they could have so easily done that
>>575051070They unsquatted the squats?
What I can wrap in my head is what was the breaking point for gw?20 years of red lasguns just for them, out of the fucking nowhere, to start enforcing yellow bolts?What the fuck happened behind the scenes? Someone got really fucking mad that a little kid said his art was wrong or shit like that?A VP got a divorce and decided to lash out?We will never know what triggered this autistic decision
You can hardly tell the guardsmen are firing at all is the problem, the visual is basically non-existent
>>575051586>pre-order the $150 versionnope>play the betaI fucking hope so>purchase every dlc that comes outI make too much money and play these games way too much to see a legendary lord on the select screen that I cant play
>>575052274Yeah the vfx needs some work
>>575051204>Haha once you see the power of my 19 conscript doomstack (40k equivalent of spamming spearmanni) your life will be fucking over!>Turn 6>Fuuuuuuuck this guard need a buff now I affix bayonets but the nightlord assaults just come in and rape me again. Fucking bullshit. How am I supposed to get tanks? I can't afford them! Guilliman is fucking around and not helping me. I'm gonna play this battle and never touch it until rework again.Are you familiar with the "I hate saurus" meme?
>>575052242They took the basic concept of "space dwarfs" and made it gay and lame in a way only modern GW could a few years ago. Squats are gone, now it's leagues of votann.They're a race of short clones led by AI that they worship now and they live in fleets of ships like craftworld eldar. They aren't really recognizably dwarf-themed beyond being short and having some surface level cosmetic and linguistic points.They have seemingly made zero cultural impact and exist purely in tabletop tournaments for 40k.They also retconned the existence of the alien race known as the demiurge that existed in battlefleet gothic and we briefly saw in battlefleet gothic armada and rolled them into the votann.
>>575051362>>575051632Can someone drop the lore for me? I'm a newfag.. his videos are pretty good... is he gone?
>>575052959legendary(lol) crashout over nothing like a year ago, streams europa universalis 5 now
>>575053118>1.5k comments on the crash out reddit threadwhat the fuck lolgonna catch up on the drama brb
>>575051586cursed nurgle gif
>>575004156>the game play they showed today was amazing for a game that doesn't have a release date yetYou don't think ca can't fuck it up between now and then? Also, you just know the game will run like absolute shit given how incompetent ca is when it comes to optimization. That's why a fucking static png on the campaign map can tank your fps, even when it's under the goddamn map and can't be seen.
>>575052959he started hating the thing he was named after, had a big meltie on stream and went over to covering Paradox which as a dev is like CA but on steroids
>>575053118I don't know if I could watch a streamer with such a horrific straggling baldness on full display.
>>575053364Im inclined to give a lot of grace to a dev that openly shows gameplay footage and has public beta tests
>>575053364I bet I have better hardware than whatever rig they were demonstrating that game on and it was running fine for them
I just know I wont get invited to the beta, I never am...
>>575054420I've been randomly invited to like three closed betas for games I didn't even sign up for.
so, was the 40k preview good? why is /vg/ hating on it?
>>574993672https://youtube.com/shorts/Q7lPf2V9kLg?is=tDZTtrjMdxlu57I1
Why do the lasguns look like they're shooting tracer rounds? I thought they were supposed to shoot solid red laser beams. At least, that's how its been portrayed in video games up to this point.
>>575055508Because Games Workshop are retarded. They will cut M38 paratrooper helmets out of Armageddon Steel Legion despite it being in every piece of art about them then turn around and base Lasgun depictions solely off of the same art.
>>575055508>WhyAbsolutely nobody knows why this change was made, no one is able to discern the intent or cause of the decision. GW's edict that they be yellow bolts came about some time in 2025.>I thought they were supposed to shoot solid red laser beamsThey have been described and depicted as beams in the video games and the tabletop codexes since the 90's, though not necessarily red beams.
I came into this thread to look at hot warhammer elves and there are barely any, go fuck yourselves
>>575055843here's your hot elf, faggot
>>575053513Showcasing pure gameplay is good, but it's not as if we've moved passed the age of carefully curated footage played off as a live demonstration. I've lived too damn long to take anything outside of open betas (pre-release at this point since they do jack shit about problems following a "beta") at face value. That's why they always have a disclaimer. Genuinely, be honest with yourself; when was the last time ca had a functional release? I'm not saying the game is doomed to failure, I just don't expect it to be worth buying - or even pirating - for at least a year after release.>>575053669>it was running fine for themAnytime more than ten models were gibbed at once, regardless of distance, the framerate took a noticeable hit. Now combine that with bigger battles, factions with larger unit counts, projectiles flying at all times (with each model given its own calculation), and particle effects out the ass.
>>575055843
>>575055508because the devs are retarded and if you point that out reddit cocksuckers jump out of the woodwork to defend the powerless multibillion dollar small family companies from bullies like you
>>575055843You can't even imagine half the shit that was lost to time. More's the pity.
>>575055926https://www.youtube.com/live/gplb9CQy9lk?si=kX7BGRqciqhxcmmY&t=2063It looks like it's running fine.
>>575055138No map painting, some planets/territories are straight forbidden from being conquered.
you could hear the devs die a little inside when they zoomed in to show guardsmen firing and they were all frozen motionless doing nothing lmao
>>575056951yeah lol I saw a few placeholder/missing animations
>>575057057I just hope it isn't line of sight issues
I'm walking around outside at 5am laughing about longma ballz
>>575057326who the hell is Steve Jobs?
>>575046941ROCK AND STONE
>>575057198>a tiny bump a few pixels too higharggggg
Surely Legend comes back for 40k..
>>574994038PERTURBED PEDRO
>>574995073THE GAY COMMUNITY
>>574995334>linear hp>not COH2 style armor system REEEEEEEE
>>575059509>>575059509>>575059509MOVE MOVE MVOE
>>574998230Based and charge pilled
>>575009561Nice
>>575019058Kino
>>575051070This is Squat gang from Necromunda, not big Votann as a faction
