First edition!>Steam pagehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3787240/MARVEL_Tkon_Fighting_Souls/>TEAM TRAILERS :>Unbreakable X-Men https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwe13-BKiwo>Amazing Guardianshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nwtrXnN0vY>Fighting Avengershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iab74kM-xA>Knights of Doomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4qG-wqhLc>Samurai Outridershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QGiaEkqYEE>Phoenix Cyclops revealhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GrMqmDi-SU>Opening intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSk3IMcgVQYOpen beta weekend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UlNl6VB0g
First for MAHVEL
What Tokon has the tightest pussy and why is it Shuri
modders are already killing themselves, both EAC and exe+paks encrypted
>>575065049penis obviously
Your mains, bros?
>Launch the beta knowing full well the servers aren't up yet just to see how it goes>Doesn't recognize my stick and for some reason text to speech for what's on screen is enabledInteresting...
>>575065260>easyanticheat into PS sign inholy cancer
>>575065184Danger and Green Goblin will be my priorities After that, I'm gonna feel things out
>>575065184I wanted to try hulk but there's no character guide and he's not in the beta
>>575065184Carnage, he's almost never in the games
No goblin guide? Weird. Maybe it releases in 30 mins.
>>575065679I feel like it'll either been within the time before beta starts or tomorrow for some reason
>Hulk not in the betaFUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOUF COUF YOUFHCU FOCUF YOU FUCK FOUCK YOUF COFUK
>>575065398Does it actually require both EAC and PSN lmao what
>>575065942yep
>>575065184These two bad boys with Peni and some one else.
>>575065184My MVC3 team: Hulk, Doom, ThorPlus Wolverine.I am not buying the game until Thor is in it btw.
>every character gets a dp and a fireball>and they all share universal combosehhhhhh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MkvbqrMvoc
>>575066370>DPThey're not DPs, they have no invulnerability. Some of them have anti air properties but that's it
>>575066440rolled my eyes at this post>akshully its technically not a dp-yeah ok lil nigga these characters are damn near copy pastes of each other in terms of specials
>>575066001lmfao did they not learn from helldivers 2
>>575066694DP implies their use as a reversal so I had to correct you stinky
I play Cammy/Chun in Street Fighter Elphelt/ABA in GGST Jack/Lili in TekkenWho should I pick?
>>575066712>Sony>Learning anything
>>575066764completely irrelevant to my point but go on retard
i hope this game not running on Linux is true. This game is gonna be perma death day one with abysmal reviews. You might as well remove it from Steam by this point.
>>575067061>EAC required>PSN required>can't run on Steam Deck or Steam Machine>not on PS4So basically it better sell gangbusters on PS5.
>>575067061It has EAC so yeah it's like fighterZ
>>575067061>>575067253I'm sure it'll do fine, but being $90 in my CAD shitcoin plus $200 of DLC passes to complete the roster, plus having to jump through Sony's faggotry hoops to play, I'm just not gonna buy it until it's like $20 on sale for the complete edition in six years.
>>575067443>$90 in my CAD shitcoinIt's painful but I wanna play it so I'm gonna rip that bandage off hard and fast
>>575067542No Thor, no buy.
>>575067253Fighting games have been predominantly a PC genre for some years now. The Japanese Steam playerbase for SF6 is more active than basically all other current fighting games on console combined. Tokon will probably be more attractive to console players but nowhere near enough to buck the trend.
>>575064930so i cant play this on steamdeck?
>>575068305Do Japs even own PS5s? I only ever see the console talked about by American nigs as some weird proxy for a status symbol to them.
>>575067443The only audience it has is PS5 NA and ''EU''. This game will have 0 players on PC because it doesn't work on PC.
>>575069127>damn maybe he's right Linux are a big pa->>>lol
>>575065184I know starlord got hit with some big nerfs since the last beta but still wanna try him.
>>575069242This isn't normal btw. Just saying. The other guy was already saying he's CPU is 100% ON MAIN MENU
I was going to buy but shit monetization + no lincucks means I will just watch tournaments and play rivals still. I hope the netcode is good and you guys have fun. I will occasionally come check out the threads with you guys. It looks like a lot of fun.
>>575069676Retard it's the shaders downloadingSo far the only issue is that it cannot be played on the most insanely outdated versions of W10 and Linux
>>575069716I kinda wanna get it as my DOOM gameplay to hold out until he's added in Tokon but the oriental jewery is full on just too much on this.
>>575069716>>575069739this is furthest i goti guess game is dead Refunded
blazpoo won...
>>575065090Good
>>575070102Damn
TOKON TIME
I'm not handing my data over to Sony. Linuxbros are blocked at a system level which is crazy.
I launched the game and the logos and menu were dripped severe frames, along with audio skips and freezing.Maybe i have to skip this game. Its runs awfully and i havent even tried gameplay
Mine's running smoothly so farThough it still isn't detecting my stick
>>575071331It's a broken game on PC. This is how awful it's gonna run even on release. >>575071417You need Sony licensed stick.
>>575071417 (me)Oop, figured it outJust had to enable Steam Input>>575071454>You need Sony licensed stick.No?
which one of you is this
>No linux fuck
doesn't fucking work on PC what were they thinking fucking idiots
>doesn't work on fucking Linux cause of EACI'm glad they didn't mention this one single fucking bit in the past 12 months or on steam page. Guess I'm not playing or buying then. Fuck SonyHope you guys have fun
WHY DO I NEED A PLAYSTATION ACCOUNT FOR A BETA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Kinda shame was really looking forward playing Carnage and Green Goblin. Refunded, epic way to kill your own audience and game.Good thing VFC is coming up.
>Boot up game>EAC>CPU fans swirrrr to life (for some reason on a fighting game)>PSN networkThese devs should set themselves on fire on stream. Not making a fucking nip nong account to test out a beta.
WTF do I do to pass this shit
>>575072642Same I had no intention on buying full price I just wanted to press a few buttons over the weekend I'm not making a fucking psn even if it is a throw away.
SHE'S SO CUTE BROS
>Read Steam forums>Almost 70% who already pre-ordered are Linux usersoooopppps... haha...
Fantastic Four tease
>>575073145>cancel preorder and review bomb your gameOopsie doopsie :)
how many of those Linux posts were made by the same person
>>575073169damn very subtle
lol
>>575072642I had to make this shitty meme to really express how I feel about the last 24 hours of fighting game happenings
so is this game eosing i only play gacha
>>575065184I'm thinking Magneto, Peni, Ghost Rider and someone else, maybe Miss Marvel because she looks cute in this game
Why's no one talking about the gameplay here
Anyone getting error code for the game on PC every 10s or so when trying to get it to run?I'm on Win11, AMD CPU + GPU so you'd think it would run fine. Friend thinks its EAC missing a file but even after an uninstall + reinstall it's not working. Tried file repair thru Steam as well and that didn't work.
>>575074613game doesnt work
>>575074613Cause I'm playing the game
>>575074613because im playing
Hold up, isn't it required by Valve for games to now disclose on the store page any kernel level software or third party account linking?
The game is the very definition of alright, holy shit. Don't come into this game expecting Mahvel speed and you'll have a good time, but otherwise, Jesus its swimming in molasses over here.
There's some shady shit going on with their ingame webviewer. Shit is destroying my internet connection. They've gotta be looping infinite windows in the background or something.
>>575064930no Carol, no buy. shrimple as.
>>575075389I'm okay with this. Mahvel has always been a little too fast for me.
>>575064930Requiring win11 and easy anti cheat AND a ps1 account for a shit-ass looking game, from a company that has bungled release after release, AND expecting $60 for this at the end? Not going to waste my time, maybe in 3-5 years this company will give itself a chance to stop fucking up
>>575075389But Max spent like an hour glazing the game for how fast and responsive it's become.
>>575075998Because he is a slow old FAGGOT
Is there a way to force Ultrawide 21:9? This game already looks like shit and it gives me a letterbox.
>>575075998I've no doubt Max got paid big money. As I said, the game is alright, but the more I play, the more I realize how low the ceiling is. Now, I enjoyed FighterZ despite that, but damn, the ease of big damage and how slow air dash is and how annoying wall break is. It might just not be for me. I feel like I understand the intent more and more but I'm slowly starting to wonder if FighterZ miraculously might have had more sauce on debut.There is no doubt in my mind that at the highest level of play, people are going to slow the fuck down, though. Damage is just WAY too accessible for how little execution is needed.
>>575076967FighterZ was kinda boring when it came out. it got crazier with updates.
why the fuck does a fighting game need an anti cheat
>>575077260maybe they've got the beta locked down like this to try to avoid datamining. i doubt the full release will be as chained up.
>>575077514>devs do all this shit to not be datamined>when they couldve just not included files they didn't want to be datamined
>>575077514lollmao evensony will arrogantly run this game into the ground
>>575065184Peni!!
>>575077590Doesn't really stop people from getting the models, music, and fonts. Some of those are licensed and need to see some weird licensed release. Because we live in a dystopian hellhole of copyright under Japanese and American law.
>>575077260Same thing I thought until you realize people do cheat in fighting games with auto throw break, blocking and shit scripts.
>>575077885the amount of people that cheat in fighting games is so fucking miniscule, this is hardly a genre that is popular enough to warrant a anti cheat that does more harm than good
>>575077885i have 2000h on SF6 and i only ran in to hackers 2 times. EAC is there so you can not use creampi or download mods. This game is dead and buried before it was even released.
>>575078041>EAC is there so you can not use creampiOh yeah, thats probably a big one, that got way too widespread as no one can keep their mouths shut anymore.
whats the highest damage combo you can do bros?
https://marveltokon.zendesk.com/hc/en-us
>>575078041P sure being on playstation servers already prevents dlc unlockers
the story is actually very nice
>Every character feels the same>Feels more like Melty Blood than anythingThis game will be boiled down to the most optimal 4 characters based on frame data and it'll be mirror matches forever
>>575079443It'll be a cold day in hell before I let tier lists dictate who I play
>>575077885Does EAC even stop that shit
Is the game not stuttering for anyone? I'm running it at like 480 and still can't hit 60 and stutters like nuts.
>>575079443Oh that explains my disappointment when I switched from Magik to Blade and MDanger mid match (I am not labbing in a fucking beta) and I was still able to basically figure out what the fuck to do despite it. Kinda assume Spider-Man and Ms. Marvel overlap. And then Mr. Fantastic will inevitably overlap with them. I don't really have the worst things to say about Tokon, but bro, this game is very much just the classics put together with none of the soul.
>>575079612EAC is the most useless anticheat.
>>575079612It's like DRMLiterally useless but developers will still waste money on it
Oh noooo not the Linux users, you know that platform that totally makes up 90% of PC gaming, noooo please come back we need you aaaaa
>>575080424enjoy ur dead game
>>575080424People with RTX 5080s are having problems too. This is unacceptable even for a beta with all the EAC and PSN bullshit.
>>575065184Definitely: MagikProbably: Danger Loki CarnagePotential interest: Peni Magneto Doom Ms. Marvel
>>575080424kek
>>575080424>blocking steam deck users>blocking w10 usersmasterful gambit sony
>>575081298NOOOOO THINK OF THE 5,000 STEAM DECK OWNERS!
>>575065184Main: L>L>LSecond: M>M>MThird: Crouching Heavy into L>M>HPossible Anchor: QCB+Button/QCF+ButtonI don't particularly care which skin it's attached to since it doesn't matter
>Refunded tokon>Steam has never done refund process so fastoh shit it's actually bad. lol must suck for ArcSys see all those PC pre-order vanish in to air
Am I the only one with insane performance issues? This game maxes out my 5080 at native 1080P like what the fuck?
>>575081298Fighting games are not mass market products, literally no one cares. If you were going to play the game then you’ll find a way to play it, if you weren’t then you don’t matter.The expectation was that this game would eventually settle around 2k daily steamcharts peak, as long as it hits that then all the bitching about EAC and PSN is irrelevant.
>>575079508BASED
I can barely run the game at 1080p medium settings despite meeting sys requirements and my computer being able to run way more demanding games like Elden Ring. This sucks, fuck Snoy and EAC. I can't wait for some autismchad to unshittify the game a month after launch so I can pirate it and run it 1000x smoother and for free.
>>575083045Im suprised with how ass performance is. ArcSys games always ran on toasters but this game has really bad performance for how it looks like. It also seems to use forced RT on reflections by default so no wonder why 2060 is "minimum". Night stages will have even bigger performance issues because of that lol.
>>575065405this is exactly what I was gonna pay, but I've been cucked by EACgl with your weirdo team
??? then fucking install it, you're an installer. am i supposed to go to some other site and install it myself?
>>575084115It's perma blocked on Linux it wont work.
>>575084237I'm on Windows 11.
>>575084396buy a PS5
>>575084115Same here brother. But it's Linux related, those chinks didn't enable that 1 fucking slider for EAC Linux support. Every other FG works on Linux. Gawd damn fucking Japs. I don't want to install Winjeet for 1 single game.
>>575086346Unironically spergout very hard in the forums and their social media and maybe they'll fix it. maybe
>>575082528my game gets insane lag when the game window is active, when i tab out it works smoothly which is pretty weird. also can't connect the login screen so i can't play
>>575086496I can get in-game and such and game runs smoothly but as I said it maxes out my 5080 on Medium/1080P for some reason. Games with path tracing at same resolution/DLSS presets dont do that kek.
>>575086496Just did a match with a guy and couldn't rematch him and got kicked out, seems like PSN exploded lol
Green Goblin gods, we won so hard. He's the sickest character in the game.
i feel like this game will be really ass in the future because of the playstation network login. refunded.
>>575087529game is good but playstation shit ruins it so hard
>boot game>play 1 game>get disconnected from playstation network>try to sign in while text to speech women says "PRAYSTASHUN ROGIN NOT VERIFAI">ALT+F4>reboot 10 minutes later>it works>repeati need a job
>5 wifi bars>enter match>8 rbflolnow I understand the seethe, it's just people on potato boxes
This game seems like its not fight stick friendly. But I dont want to play on a pad
>>575088972reminds me of granblue so I ended up playing on pad instead of stick and it seems like the right choice tbdesu
>>575088972>>575089115yeah if you played granblue just put the skill on R1, unique on A/X (bottom button) and you're done
From what little I’ve gotten to play I can tell that this is definitely a game by Granblue Arcsys devs
>>575089292>Peni's overhead dive is safe on block>the universal overhead that costs 1 assist bar is also safe on blockright at home
does the game only let you map 12 buttons?
>>575084957Ew. No thanks, I got it working.
>>575089243Okay ill try it with tokon
Nice game
felt like I had to spend more time getting to the point I could actually log into PSN on my PC then playing the game (even though I've been playing for hours now) but what I have played of the game has convinced me I'm better off waiting a few years for a complete edition. I'm probably just old, but no fighting game feels good nowadays. MvC2, 3rd Strike are still the best, rather be playing SF4 than 6 (even though 6 is the only modern fighting game I don't outright hate) and after messing around learning some combos in this game, it just made me miss playing MvC3 when I actually played this shit with a competitive mindset and actually had fun travelling for tournaments. Modern fighting games kinda suck, but I think that's just most modern games in general.
>>575076967>Damage is just WAY too accessible for how little execution is neededmodern fighting games in a nutshellgotta make it fun for the normies who purchase the super dlc version on day 1 after playing a beta for 3 hours on a weekend and feel good mashing 1 button on their favourite marvel goy, who ends up topping out at 20 hours played
This game is already looking pretty AIDS, probably gonna be totally unplayable cancer by the time shit gets optimized.
Sucking Peni’s gigantic futa Penis Parker
>>575064930WAITED AND SHILLED THIS GAME FOR MONTHSGET FINALLY HOME TO PLAY SOME GOOD AS TOKOOOONYEAH VERY FIRST ANTICHEAT ON A FIGHTING GAME BLOCKS ALL LINUX USERS, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE OTHER PSN RELATED ISSUES AND OTHER TECHNICAL BULLSHIT THAT IS RAPING YOUR PCI SHILLED YOU FUCKERS I PRE-ORDERED YOUR GAME AND YOU DID THIS TO MEI HOPE THIS SHIT ASS GAME CRASHES AND BURNS AS IT DESERVES~Carnage out
damn we got the actual 100% of people playing games on linux in this very thread, how do you do gentlemen
>>575094783fucking retard doesn't know steam deck exists
>>575094857if you're playing on steam deck I dont want you playing fighting games wifi nigger
>>575094857No one who is serious about fighting games is playing them on a steam deck
>>575094783everyone else is busy playing the game
Anyone want to play some beta matches? I'm playing on PS5 and wired so everything should run fine. Also I'm complete dogshit and I play Wolverine
>>575095321I wish that were true
>>575095138no one who is serious about fighting games is going to play marvel slop designed for retarded marvel fansthis game is trash
>>575097650Also because modern Fighting Games live and die by PC audience this game will have so tremendously low numbers.
>>575097958I wonder how much money sony gave marvel to make this game. It's so weird sony decided to make a fighting game. didn't they sell their stake in evo to the saudis? are they that retarded they think slapping marvel on anything is a license to print money in 2026? this game isn't going to touch SF6 in Japan, half the world is shut out from playing, so they expect fickle NA/EU fans that drop their current game for the next "thing" to support this shit for years? This game is DOA no matter how much marvel fans shill it.
>requires kernel anti-cheat>requires psn account>linux (steam deck included) and older win10 builds are excluded>performance seems to be bad anyway>playstation servers are down Did I get it correctly? What was sony thinking, holy fuck!!
>>575098442mahvel=money
>>575098367>Marvel Rivals had day one Proton Patch>55k on Steam alone>Proton Patch on Sony Marvel Tokon>????????????????????????????? Tokon might get forced S2 and die after it.
>>575064930Holy hell I've never seen a PC port be so fucking bad this game launches how soon?In order to play the game you have to:>Make sure your mobo isn't from ASUS or MSI>Restart and enter your motherboard's UEFI settings to enable secureboot>Disable all third-party software and drivers relating in any way to input or gpu or cpu, even things controlling fans or OC's or lights>open a command prompt with admin access and use it to disable winring0x64 service>fuck with the shader settings for your GPUAll to play a region and platform locked game with whatever tiny group of people both actually like fighters AND were willing to jump through all those hoops.What the fuck?
>>575099485well at least it happened in the betasurely it will get fixed on releaselolglad im able to play
>>575077514EAC isn't to beat datamining, the retarded encryption they did is doing that.
>>575099485I was ready for PSN bullshittery but if your anti-cheat ON A FUCKING FIGHTING GAME kicked you for using custom cooler fans is like FUCK THIS GAME HARD tier. So glad i got my refund 30mins ago, holy fuck what a piece of shit fuck anal shit game I will never buy a single arcsucks product everTokon is an absolute humiliation ritual tier shit Cyberpunk 2077 could have been buggy and broken but it wasn't like that
>>575100058>I will never buy a single arcsucks product everGod I feel so bad for ArcSys they don't deserve this. This was 100% Sony's requirement as publisher.We're never getting another Marvel fighting game ever again are we?
>>575100058not trying to be an arc shill, but strive and grandblue versus works really well on even linux, so I doubt these things were their call.
>>575100164>We're never getting another Marvel fighting game ever again are we?don't worry. disney is doing the best it can killing marvel comics, the new avengers movie is going to be hot trash. by the time capcom starts to wind down SF6 shit, marvel properties will be in a similar spot as when they got to make their first Marvel stuff...so maybe you'll see MvC4 and this time they won't be told "make it gay like the movies" with Infinite.
>game won't run because "lol dunno insecure driver i guess not gonna tell you which one though teehee"
>>575101949>animation actually matching the hitboxesbased
>>575101949this game has forced raytracing/hardware lumen? it looks like reflections do at least
>>575100058I don’t get why people are so floored that you would want anticheat in a fighting game?Like yeah maybe the anticheat doesn’t actually work, ok fair, that’s valid idk. But people do cheat in fighting games and it’s obnoxious.
>>575102186Yes.It's Unreal Engine 5 and it has DLSS, TSR etc.
>>575102383anticheat is just to not let you pirate the gameI'll admit I never played the most popular games but never saw a single fucking cheater ever in fgs
>>575102383i have 2000h on SF6 and saw cheaters only twice i dont count family share smurfers as cheaters
>>575102121whifs are based? what the fuck was supposed to happen? spiderman is clearly crossed over before either attacks are even animating.
>>575102508All modern games have upscaling tech anon even if its basic TAA and UE5 titles very often use software Lumen but here it looks like forced hardware RT on reflections which is different and bizzare design choice for a competitive fighting game.
>>575102383Some level of anticheat and DRM is fine. Expected.This level of ultra-draconian anti-cheat is not called for in a fighting game. It isn't some massive hundred-million-player F2P shooter that needs to make sure people can't use injectors and aimbots and can't manually handle a ban queue.
>>575102770but her sword lands behind her... it's a 180°
>>575066370What are ms marvel dp and fireball
>>575102906IT ASKS FOR YOUR MOTHERBOARD SECURE BOOTB I O SS E C U R EB O O TA FUCKING FIGHTING GAMEA FUCKING MOTHER FUCKING FIGHTING GAME
Is there any way to turn off auto combos?
>>575102383Because it's very rare, and when you do see a cheater it's pretty obvious. You spend 30 seconds getting beat up and then you block them and move on. Nobody cares
>>575102383Cheating in fighting games is insanely rare and very easy to spot even by average player just by looking at inputs on replays anon. Then you can report and block that fag so you never have to play them again. All these DRMs are to not make microtransaction and DLCs pirateable not to fight cheaters lol.
>>575103910nyo
>>575103910No, and if the game is anything at all like DBFZ then autocombos have either entirely unique normals or else unique properties that make them a requirement
>>575104898nah they don'tthey do 35% though
>>575065184
>Marvel Tokon>1 Health bar>4 vs 4>It's literally Main Fighter + 3 assists>barely switchesWhat went wrong? Even fucking Nen Impact has more diversity.
>>575105681>What went wrong?If this beta is anything to go by the answer is Sony.
>>575105681Its modern ArcSys game. What did you expect? Some people never learn huh.
>>575105681>>It's literally Main Fighter + 3 assists>>barely switchesthis is the only reason I'm even giving a chance to this game desu fuck tag slop
>>575102383if only there were a netcode that desyncs and stops the match if one input leads to different outputs on the players' machines... it could even allow graphics mods without problem....but i have to keep dreaming .....
>>575105681bruh it's day -14 and you're wondering why people aren't switching more?
im waiting for black new yorkers to lmk if this game is gonna be good or not alternatively i will take comments from hood filipinos and trans women
>>575107028bssed arcys enjoyer
From watching streams the gameplay seems more slower neutral than Avatar which is a nice surprise for me. Combined with >>575105876 I might give this beta a try after all, hope it runs on PC since I don't have PS5.
>>575105681They should release a mode where each character has their own health bar and theres only 1 round like MvC
>>575107028black filipino trans (currently living in new york) hereit's ok
>>575107153or we can all just not buy this slop and tell marvel they should let capcom add shit to mvc3 like snk is doing with their old games.
>>575107028I've only seen one of these people actually able to get in and play the fucking gameThey saw that j.L hits mid instead of overhead and crashed out hard
>>575107714this is a fighting game made for non fighting game players who like marvel slop. it's gonna crash hard.
>>575108104is 22k players on steam for a beta a flop?
>>575108247It is when it's an open beta and most of that number is people that couldn't play and didn't realize the game won't close unless you force close it in task manager
>>575108247>is 22k players on steam for a FREE beta a flopyes.
SF6 open beta only had about 5k online on steam tho
>>575108436>>575108778well theres more people playing this beta right now than sf6, so i guess every game is a flop
>>575108247>is 22k players on steam for a beta a flop?yes because 22k players aren't buying the game. I'm one of those on the beta. I'm just playing it cause its the "thing" right now but there's no way I'm putting more time into this shit after the weekend and for the prices they are charging in canadadough. If they game has great word of mouth and tons of hype on beta weekends the number will climb over the weekend and peak on Sunday. If it drops players between today and sunday the game is looking at an average launch. also this shit couldn't even touch SF6 in Japan. It has to be carried by NA/EU since so many countries are locked out from even playing with the PSN shit.
itll be popular>tekken is ok>sf6 is good but doesnt appeal to this crowd>strive is getting old >DBFZ is dead >2xk0 flopped its basically that simple, tons of weebs want a 2d tag fighter and this will be it.>BUT IT DOESNT APPEAL TO REAL FGC ME-ok unc, none of them do, theyre trying to appeal to new players more
>>575109146>well theres more people playing this beta right now than sf6Anon are you having a hard time reading?That number includes every shmuck that started the game, closed it, and didn't open task manager to force close it.
>>575065184I'm gonna try shuri and if i'm too shit to make her work then I'll try goblin or carnage.
>>575109293>everyAre you retarded? It's doesn't even count the PS5 players right now.
>>575109280>tons of weebs want a 2d tag fighterlol they really don't, weebs play freemium trash waifu simulators faggot
>>575109293>That number includes every shmuck that started the game, closed it, and didn't open task manager to force close it.did you pull that off your ass?
>>575109492I pulled it from actually having a PC and downloading the demo you dumb cunt
There's roughly 55-60k players on this beta right now. That's pretty good considering it's still work day hours. Tonight should be interesting.
>>575109539Just because your pc is fucked doesn't mean everyone is having the same issues your retard. The game closes just fine on my machine
>proven IP>proven market for this type of game>declining competitor market >low cost to make i mean for this to flop it would have to do horrible, this is almost flop proof at this pointthis is a low risk, mid reward project that could pay dividends if its a hit
>>575109646>works on my machine :^)cool story broyou miss this thread being 90% people mad about the game being fucked on PC?
>>575109280lol sony paid fucking cohncarnage to play it on twitch as a #adsony is betting on nomies buying super premium version of the newest marvel slop and never playing the game.
Any Peni combos? I made one that does 42k with 75 meter but it's so ass lol
>Assemble counter also beats THROW??????????????????????????
>>575109670>>proven IP>>proven market for this type of game>>declining competitor market >>low cost to makepulling thing out of your ass eh?
>>575109745And? This is a fairly good strategy >influencer marketing budget>ok lets put it to some boomer who marvel nostalgia who gives game reccs >hey chat this game is easy and has characters you like and i liked it alternatively hiring an FGC influencer>hey guys i like this game from this ADS>Chat: DEAD ON ARRIVAL, SELL OUT, LETS PLAY SF6that wasnt a bad activation for them
>>575109995>marvel and Marvel vs is a huge IP >fighting games are cheap>competitor market is 2XK0 and Strive, both declining I mean argue any of these points if you want lol
>page 4doa
PC port is stinky as fuck, and a lot of the game decisions still bother me. Not sure if this will stick. Realistically no fighting game not called MK or Smash will ever dethrone SF6 for the next 5-6 years but this certainly won't do it. Might be #3 for a while though.
>>575065184100% locked on Magik.Very likely also playing Magneto and Goblin, not sure what to make of Goblin's assists though.No idea who my 4th will be.
this doesnt feel great to play.
>>575110141marvel comics is in declinemarvel movies are in declinemarvel shows are pretty much DOA outside of the one nostogia bait cartoon for millennials that still live in their parents basementmarvel IP doesn't come for free so sony either paid a ton for it, or is giving marvel a % of revenue from the game. so even if the game is "cheap" like all modern games it's going to live and die by the ability to sell DLCthis game isn't going to move the needle, it'll just be another flash in the pan like 2kx0 that will live and die with how much support sony puts behind it, and their track record of supporting games that aren't selling gangbusters is pretty fucking awful
>>575110637this will compete with CotW which gets the loser pose.
Not terrible I guess, Strive did 30k on launch day so Arcsys would ideally like to do around those numbers again. Peak will probably be during burger hours tonight
>>575110004>>hey chat this game is easy and has characters you like and i liked itlol he got cooked hard and didn't look like he was having any fun at all
>>575065184You have no idea how happy i am that we got the real ms marvel instead of MCU bullshit
>>575111064Remember. You paid $50 for Strive. This is a free beta. Tekken Public Beta was like 48k?
>>575111024It’s already more than doubled CotW’s beta numbers
I can’t stop giggling about Penis Parker
>>575111345>Tekken Public Beta was like 48k?yeah close to that
>>575111801>demo see on you release date bro i wanna see those numbers again
they are either gonna remove x-manor (or ban it) or give it wallbreaks because it really shows how much more fun the game is without wallbreaks
this game is pulling in all the marvel rivals gooners and goonettes, only for them to realize it's a fighting game and they actually hate it once the hype for "new" dies
>>575111187shes really cute in the story
>>575110702Goblin is a main character, his assists are all ass.
The controls are dogshit for fightstick. Whats the best way to arrange them?
this roster is a sausage festwhat waifu characters are they saving for DLC?
>>575111967That’s just every fighting game. If you’ve been around this genre for any length of time then you know there’s no hope of it ever going mainstream.We literally just want the game to be third behind SF6 and Tekken 8, that’s the most anyone could reasonably hope for.
>>575112445but SF6 is mainstream (in Japan)and CoTW/SnK have endless money behind themwell at least we're gonna get CvS3 in a few years.
>>575111006rivals did well new spider man movie will do well idk anon, youre betting against a very easy bet is my pointyou might be right but its like if i had to guess theyve had 90 boardrooms go over this and 30 analysts and im assuming if i had to guess the risk is low, BUT i have no info and am just a fan so what the fuck do i know
>>575112596CoTW is dead dead the saudis could announce a 10 million tournament people would still not play that pile of garbage
>>575112596SF6 is the exception to the rule. Even then it’s only really mainstream in Japan, not the rest of the world.
>>575112445beta already has more players right now than SF6 on liveTokon > SF6 > T8
>>575113337ummm bro? SF6 has daily 36k players. How is 36k more than 22k?
>>575111064This is a free beta, and a non-negligible percentage of that player count is people staring at error screens
>>575112768those same board rooms decided to make concord, marathon, horizon hunter gatherers. those are just 3 of their terrible decisions, one cancelled already, one on life support, and one that is looking to be DOA. not even mentioning half the other failed projects they had or still have in development. anyone having faith in anything with their name on it is crazy. Concord was generational with how bad it is, but you look at so many of their other decisions and it just makes no sense. Bungie is basically dead thanks to marathon, they fucked over Guerrilla Games having them do Horizon Hunters Gathering instead of just making the next Horizon. There is little faith in a company that has produced so much pure shit for almost an entire generation of games. That's probably why when the opportunity to make this game came up they took it hoping the Marvel name would carry it.
>>575112242Anyone?
>>575113432People staring at error messages don't leave the game open for hours they get frustrated and give up.
remember how Monster Hunter : Wilds had 195k on the beta and now it has 5k.Do you htink ArcSys is capable of fix this shit in 12 days?
>>575113674I played for 2 hours and decided the game wasn't for me as a stick player. I don't understand how "modern" games where they try to make them simple have the worst stick set ups or just too many buttons in general. Bring back 6 button fighters.
>>575114004The pro scene moved to hitboxes so devs stopped giving a shit about how their games play on stick.
>>575111024That's also not true.
>>575112596>we're gonna get CvS3 in a few years.we're never getting a new capcom fighter that isn't SF get real
>>575113425youre not even counting ps5 players
>>575114613Ahh yes SF6 has 5k PS5 players and Tokon has 225k PS5 players. Of courseee!!!
>>575113432It’ll eventually settle at a 2k daily peak and that’s perfectly ok
>>575114791i accept your concession
>Go to streamer that said they'd be playing Tokon>they're playing something else>"lol I got the driver error">"lol it won't start">"lol OBS completely breaks it"Great advertising Sony
>first time being playable>not available in the beta>youtube tutorial video probably wont even be out till next weekBeing a Carnage player is suffering.
>>575109814Yeah what the fuck am I supposed to do against someone spamming this on wakeup? Just accept I get punished for knocking them down like what the fuck? I feel like I'm missing something.
>>575115115theres 40k viewers on twitch right now. im sure you can find somebody.
>>575115386You're not too bright, kiddo.
>>575113956the all time peak for Wilds was 1.1 milliondishonest post
I've found a single person after queuing for 30 minutes. US East Coast, 3 bars and up, all regions. What is going on, this is unplayable
>>575115482sounds like that streamer you simp over who doesnt know how to work obs isnt too bright.
>>575115550>What is going onBetween the PSN outage and the PC port being turbo-fucked nobody can get in to play.
Game feels way too hard for me. I really hate this trend of modern fighting games actually being really fucking hard in disguise. Why is it so hard to just make something like DBFZ, or Street Fighter minus the DP inputs.
>>575116940you don't enjoy simple inputs and auto combos? but it's so easy to express your skill with a 10 button layout vs 4 and motion inputs.
>>575116940it's too many fucking buttons
Am I retarded or is there not a way to hard lock out simple commands? I can't tell if I am inputting properly for manual commands or accidentally inputting simple commands and would prefer it if it just failed to do any move if I have not done the motion correctly instead of inputting whatever the last direction I pushed + unique gets me.. I cannot find anything in any settings that seems like it would do this.
Can you not Crossover Reflect an Assemble Counter? The guy in my last match was spamming it nonstop so I kept trying to counter it and nothing happened. What do you do against Assemble Counter?
>>575117660Haven’t played this yet but if it’s anything like Granblue (which had the exact same control scheme) there was an option to turn off motion inputs but no option to turn off simple inputs
>>575117829you assemble counter as well and then you're back to neutral I think
do you have to login to your psn account everytime you launch the game?it doesnt link your steam account to the psn account?
>>575116940>why am i not already an expert on a game that released 8 hours ago
>>575118258It legitimately only takes me maybe like, 20 to 30 minutes of playing tops to figure out if a game is too hard, because it's almost entirely down to button scheme.
>>575116940>modern fighting games hardWhat the actual fuck am I witnessing. You are actual subhuman. Lowest life form in the universe. Please leave.
>>575118485So you're saying its a skill issue. Got it.
>>575118592Yeah no shit it's a skill issue, but others will experience this issue and quit too and then you end up with a Discord fighter. There's a reason SF6 is so dominant. It's the only fighting game that doesn't require you to be execution Jesus.
>>575118485??? have you ever played a serious competitive game in your life? Complaining about the “button scheme” is like a hockey player saying they have trouble balancing on ice skates. It’s something you get used to and forget about before the real game even starts
>>575118748>then you end up with a Discord fighterDiscord streaming protocol breaks the game lelSo does OBS
>>575110702Alright 4th is definitely Blade his assist with Magik's portals is too funny to pass up.
>>575118781I'm an 09er and almost certainly have more hours in in this genre than you do by a long shot, so I guess if you consider any FGs serious competitive games yeah.
>>575118940lol
>>575118940You should have mentioned that you are 70 years old and have negative neural plasticity carry on then
>>575119263Yeah but that kind of proves my point. The only people playing this genre, SF6 excluded, are 35 year olds like me. If your FG caters to twenty somethings you're stuck in Discord or tiktok matchmaking.
>>575119419No i'm not proving your point. Unless you legit have a learning disorder you should get used to the button layout just by playing for some time.
>Can't run the demo on Linux because they're asking to install a stupid anti-cheat otherwise it could have workedWell fuck you and your stupid game
>>575119616nta but this feels realyl hard to play to me too. i think at some point post-dbfz they decided fighting games are going to be designed around actual console pads rather than stick button layouts and ive never been able to enjoy a game in the genre (sans street fighter, which stuck to a normalized button scheme) since.
I cannot seem to get this game to run well on PC no matter what settings I tweak. Even on a 3080TI setting everything to low it feels like the characters and even the menu are moving through syrup. Anyone on PC manage to find a fix?
>>575120791BUTTE
>>575120791People are reporting that the limiting factor is CPUWhatever virtualization or encryption they're using to protect their assets is extremely CPU intensive and is killing performance.
can we please, please just get a 6 button fighter again PLEASE.
>>575120905CPU is for shader compile; you fucking retard
>>575120905So likely an issue for the entire beta, great. If a Ryzen 7 3700X fits recommended specs, it should allow the game to run smoothly Sony.
>>575121028is the tag button useless?
>>575121142It's UE5 you dumb cunt shaders preload
>>575120791unreal shitgine 5 does it again, i have a 4080 Super and the game still doesn't feel like it hits a clean 60 fps frametime ever
>>575120791I'm assuming you already turned on the shader warmup, that was the only thing that was causing this issue for me.
>>575121245Yup actually ran worse after doing so. Also reinstalled.
Runs like absolute dogshit on my PC. Maybe because I'm in queue for POE too but I have a really fucking beefy machine and it shouldn't be struggling with this game (4090).
>>575114250Even as a leverless player, I hate shit that makes me need to use my pinky, like c'mon
>Reinstall Windows 11 and re-organize drivers to fix the error brorefunded fuck you sony
>>575121497its a retarded post anyways. 90% of leverless button layouts are basically stick with extra buttons, which is still aggressively shit when a game is designed around a pad.
>>575121652>>575064930>Hey, User, you have an insecure driver that could be exploited on your machine, so I won't run this game until you get rid of it.>"Ok, game, that's fine, just tell me what driver is a problem and I'll get rid of it">That's a secret OwOHitting refund at light speed
If the game doesn't work for poorfags and Linuxfags, then what is the point?
>>575121720Looking at the controls now, I THINK you can get this down to 6 or 7. Quick assemble is just L + Assemble. Dash it's needed and then lastly quick skill is potentially needed. I see people use quick skill sometimes in granblue when it matters so maybe 6 buttons and 7 buttons optimally. Still dislike it but I am someone who does 3 button RC in strive
add another button
>>575122107ahh yes im a poor fag with $2600 PC.
i dont get why every fighting game has to reinvent everything now fuck me. just fucking use street fighter as a template. remember how in the 90s every fucking fighting game was just building on SF? that was a good time. now everything needs to be a 20 button tag game with active tagging and confusing rules and combo limits and wall breaks holy fuck.
Can you map parry and throws to 1 button instead of needing to press 2 for both?
I think I'm done. Even when the game's working fine and I can get into matches, it's just not fun. I could be playing Avatar or anything else
>>575122726>AvatarNo one is playing; it looks ugly as sin and will be dead in a week
>>575122726>I could be playing Avatar
Avatar looks like some adobe flash garbage from 2004. I can't believe people are taking it seriously.
any moment now tokon bros
>>575118781>Complaining about the “button scheme” is like a hockey player saying they have trouble balancing on ice skates.I'd say it's more like "why did you put 2 blades on these skates? I'm not a baby learning to skate for the first time, can't you kids just learn how to skate on 1 blade?"
I main Katalina in Granblue VS. Who would be a good main for me in this game?I hate remembering long combos and thinking.
>>575124873>I hate remembering long comboswyell...>and thinkingms marvel and wolverine
i cant even really figure out of i like this game because it runs so poorly.
What's the cutest team I can make? Is it peni, Ms marvel, and green goblin?
>>575122450Yeah, it’s not like Capcom ever had their own wildly successful tag series… hahaha…
>>575125090What the fuck is wrong with your PC? This game runs great for me.
>>575124251lol modern fighters really are games where you're stuck with the training wheels always on
>>575125235>No DangerDanger a cute!a cute!!!!!!
>>575126197the game just keeps crashing my ASUS drivers
>>575126197not him but I've found 3 dudes with 30 ms and 8 rbf, I dont know what the fuck are these niggas doing with those shit PCs
>do raw dp fine every time>do button into dp>get fireball 100% of the timeTell me I'm not going crazy it's like the interpreter is different when you're cancelling. Also I have a midrange current gen pc and have no issues running it at 1440p maxed out I think literally everyone is being exposed as being on some COVID era gaming laptop with no CPU.
>>575126592>shit PCsit's a poorly optimized game faggot
>>575126497Hadn't seen her actually! So either her or magik.
>>575126961If it's a classic dp motion, do 1623button instead.
>>575126961>you need to play with the training wheels on, it's like Goku training in gravity. It will only make you stronger or some shit.
why does the game want my home addressyes hitting "do later" just boots you back to the log in menu because I'm not signed into PSN
>>575127316It asked for a town and a postcode not a resolvable address you can just make it up.
>>575127441NOOOO MY NARRATIVE!
im on a 9070xt and it does not feel smooth at all
>>575127316Same reason why Steam does I'd assume
>>575127441why would a video game need your home address and postcode to play video game
>>575127316Put in the White House.
>no Hulk in betaFUCK you.>no Thor in gameFUCK you.I'll play the beta though.
>>575127734steam only does it if you are actually about to purchase somethingyou also have to link your psn and steam accounts "to access some features" but actually it just boots you back to the title screen for that too because "some features" means "playing the fucking game"just wanted to lab stuff lol. the shitty "being put on hold at the bank"TTS voice reading everything on screen including my button inputs poorly is lmao too
does easyanticheat/snoy drm stop people from cracking it?
>>575127025Definitely give Danger a shotShe's very cute
Does anyone play with a hitpad?Thinking about getting one.
>>575128913yesprobably the only reason it got added to begin with
>>575128934I have an r16 because I didn't like the layout with all the buttons the same bigger size on some of the others. It's more traditional layout with a bigger jump button and everything else smaller.. Love mine. Potentially going to get a c16 if mine ever craps out Would recommend adding grippy rubber padding to the bottom to stop it from slipping so much on your lap
>>575128913yeah they don't want people running cracked versions with all the DLC for free offline. Actually can the game even be run in offline mode on steam?
>>575128934Either do fightstick or pad.Leverless is for trannies and some people consider it cheating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz-xnCPlnFUThese are the easiest bnbs on the easiest character in the game. This game is difficult as fuck and dead.
>>575129789this looks perfect. it reminds me of DBFZ but without Dragon Rush.
>>575129789I dunno I seem to be able to just to really basic ladder combos into a super. I don't play tag fighters outside of DBFZ which wound up being very free form by the end so I could do just about whatever. So far in Tokon I just do simple stuff.
>>575129789I get why the shield always is shown from the side for visual clarity but holy shit it looks so gay. Shield throw loops in MvC3 were some of the most fun I had playing a "for fun" team with Cap, Hulk, Hawkeye.This looks so fucking lame. I dunno if I should even download this when I get home.
>>575129789You can three touch people with auto combos into supers, it doesn't matter.
>>575129789i dont wanna be mean but thats all really easy
>>575129789Thats really easy. Do you suffer from profound mental retardation?
>First game I've been looking forward in a long time>Can't play because Linux is blocked
>>575130590Literally none of the combos in there are easy you fucking retard.
>>575129598the future is now old man
>>575130698This better be bait because otherwise, your execution is fucking shit. You don't even gotta worry about hit confirm for most of these.
>>575131073i mean he's right, any combo with an assist is just immediately very hard to do. like the easiest combo here shits on every combo in sf6 minus the microwalk combos.
>>575131073>>575130698>>575129789As someone that has played a decent amount of airdashers (though I prefer SF4), these combos are fairly easy in terms of execution. There's no tight links and it follows a very universal magic series formula of Light - Medium - Heavy - Launcher - jump - air series - special.However, to a casual player or someone not used to airdashers that combo is three times as long and complicated as anything they've ever input and is extremely intimidating.
>>575131431This.Tag fighter autists don't understand that tag fighter combo formula is a niche within a niche that people need to get used to and even most fighting game players don't bother with it and have to adjust.This game is not gonna be a normie paradise even on launch. The fact that it might as well be nearly PS5 exclusive also hurts it because that's the casual audience.
>magik >5M 5H 214M 623M j2H tag jU 2H 22L 2U 2H jc j66U superOn paper is easy but it's hard AF whats wrong with the game everything is tight and manually timed.
This game is already degenerate as shit and people haven't even begun to tap into the active tag shitThis game will be dead in a few months
what does these white and green square mean
>>575131073I could play this beta for 20 hours and not manage the first 4 combos in that video once.
was gonna go harder with the long range fellas, but goblin is really cool so far
>>575129789First fighting game?
Still pretty new. Does this game not have a perfect parry system? I find I have to block, and inside that block frame animation is when I press the 2 buttons to parry
After a couple hours, I like the game, but I'm not gonna get it until Thor or Beta Ray Bill are in and it's on sale. Wish Hulk was in the beta so I could try him out and see how he is.
How do I play Doom better? He's a better zoner than magneto right?
>>57513365715+ years.
>>575133927If anything Mag is more like a grappler.
>>575132239What do the numbers before the letter mean? I know M is medium, jH is jump Heavy, etc but what is 5M, j2H, etc?
>>575133969You’re either retarded or trolling then
>>575134019It's numpad notationYou move your d-pad/stick in the direction the number is on the dpadSo 2 is down, 6 is forward, 8 is up, etc.The notation for a hadouken is 236P
>>575134081Probably retarded because I'm dead serious. Also this is single most strict DP input I've seen in a FG since third strike.
>>575134139What the shit. Why would 2 be down, shouldn't this follow the numbers on a clock? Is there an image that shows the number according to the direction?
>>575134019It’s numpad notation for writing directional inputs. The 9 possible positions of the dpad (or arcade stick) correspond to the 9 numbers on a keyboard numpad.1 = down back5 = neutral, don’t press any direction8 = straight up236 = down then down forward then forward. i.e. a quartercircle forward motionetc
>>575132239What the fuck I didn't even know I could do motion inputs in this game. Surely this could have been explained in the tutorial right?
>>575134390>What the shit. Why would 2 be down, shouldn't this follow the numbers on a clock?No, I just told you it follows the numbers on a numpad.
>>575134390Look at your numpad dumbass
That reminds me, what is the penalty for using simple inputs over motion inputs? Is there any?
>>575134523The damage difference is tiny there's no reason to bother really.
>>575134019Numpad directions nigga
>>575134738Its 20%. Thats not "tiny" anon.
>>575134692Magik's M dp does 12000 damage manually or 11000 shortcut. So about 10% per thing, probably don't need to worry about it except for supers.
>>575134738There are more differences than just damage. You can only do the upwards tornado with Ms Marvel by doing the motion.Also doing motions is fun
>>575134390People this stupid are posting on the same board as you on 4channel.organization
>>575134806Its not 20% for specials, you'd have to be dumb to do manual aa specials.
Does this game have a taunt button?
>>575134898You can do it with down+shortcut+M can't you
>>575134738The motion give different properties/frame data based on what button you use for the special (L/M/H). By never using the motion you are basically not using half of your character's kit
>>575135338Did you not play the tutorial? You get M/H versions with shortcuts as well.
So your methods of getting more characters are:>grab wallbreak>the "superdash" X+A wallbreak>dyingAnything else?
Doom kinda fucking sucks huh>Shield seems really good>You just press and destroy it without even stopping momentum
>>575135491Every character has a dedicated wallbreak special.
>>575135578The sky laser special and back assist are too scary for him to be good.
>>575135475>>575135257I guess I missed that. Still I would rather just do the motion than add another combination of buttons in the middle of my combo
>>575135578Your puny, Reed Richards tier, intellect cannot comprehend the depths of Doom's gameplay and so you fail to achieve his greatness.
>>575135792Sky laser barely tracks and is slow as fuck It's literally shittier hidden missiles
What's the point of switching characters if theres only one life bar that does not regenerate? What if I play my leader all the time because I dislike tagging?
>>575133808you can perfect parry your opponent's parry if you want lol
>>575136074Active tag shenanigans will be mandatory later on for mixups and pressure so you'll need to be able to confirm into oki with at least your main two. But just on a basic level you'll be able to switch out of bad MUs if this game ends up having them. If you're being zoned out as Hulk you can just switch to Doom and shit out a mirror or whatever.
>>575136074>What if I play my leader all the time because I dislike tagging?They gave you one health bar specifically to allow people to do that because learning 4 characters is too much to ask of a casual player base
>>575136274But Doom's mirror quite literally mega loses to Hulk...
is peni good on point?
>>575136074This https://x.com/TistheDac/status/2080570588628746406
>>575136407I haven't seen any hulk stuff I just assumed a big body would lose to zoning. The idea stands though some characters will do better than others.
>>575136460I'm playing her and it feels like my opponents are getting AIDS when fighting me
>>575136074You get more combo damage by switching. Instead of doing lvl3, do a three character Super swap finisher instead, it does way fuckin more damage and all you have to do is mash A.
Magneto is cool as hell holy shit
AightI seeMagik cucks y'all are scrubs
>network errorFuck off bitch.
>>575137059sameregion? im EU
>network errorguess it had to happen eventually
down on steam but working on ps5
Who's got the secret Doom sauce? So far just been doing basic combos but I wanna use his grab extender better and shield for bounce combos.
>can't even do my cool blade combo because his 214M auto wallbreaks due to how far it moves himdumbass mechanic
>>575137437just play on the x-mansion stage, no wallbreaks there.
What's the BnB for Storm?
>>575137585How do you get more characters on X-Mansion stage?
>>575137876what do you mean?
>>575137876you still get the extra character on wall splat on that stage
Right now it feels actually like a simpler DBFZ other than having DP motions and crescent motions for lvl3. Tag combos are far simpler to use since they're basically streamlined with no timing needed for the basics whereas in DBFZ knocking someone down into an assist did take a bit of call-in timing. Having one health bar makes it easier as well. Autocombos do a big chunk of damage on one lifebar.I actually like the single lifebar with some incentives to swap for more damage though to differentiate from MVC or DBFZ. Lets me play as Doom and my minion assists, with a bit of swapping for Supers.
>>57513787622 input feels way stricter than in other ArcSys games. It's not unmanageable and I'll probably get used to it eventually, but I keep getting normals because I'm not doing it fast enough. It's not just me hallucinating, right? It's stricter than Granblue/DBFZ, right?
>>575138618It's not FighterZ, it's BBTAG 2
Jesus fuckArcSys Pc ports always had some fucked up issues but never the basic optimization, the fuck is this
>>575138792It's actually Granblue Tag.
>>575138819KEK Tokon gets the GBVSR curse where pros have to play with fucking insane delayThey were dropping combos in fucking baby ass GBVSR imagine in this game on Play
>>575138819The influence of Snoy
>>575138819what the fuck...
>>575138902Tōkon has proximity normals?
>>575138618if dbz requires more "timing" it's only because every character in that game for the first like 4 years of it's life was giga limited and could barely do anything, so you had to push the mechanics to their limit to make anything cool happen in terms of combosmeanwhile blade gets the dbzf equivilent of superdash out of any of his special moves and actually gets to have fun
Call me when the beta is working again, okay sweetcheeks?
>>575138979It has proximity assists.
>>575139047if I don't fall asleep sure
>>575138819sony is the king midas of shit
>>575138819>4-5 frame delay on PS5PC netplayers will look like gods of defense compared to the pros lol
>>575139151proximity normals were the only thing from Granblue that i didn't like, so if they're not present, i wouldn't call it GBVR2.
>>575139373>prosno way this game gets more pro support than CoTW. is sony going to put up big prizepools? lol game is basically for casual normies who live and breath capeshit
>>575139760I didn't call it GBVR2, I called it Granblue tag.But yeah, it doesn't have proximity normals, but outside of that it is extremely reminiscent of GBVS, in a good way in my opinion.
>>575139876I can guarantee you not a single normie is getting pulled into this due to Marvel IP when Marvel Rivals exists as f2p casualslop experience. Normies hate fighting games and bemoan when one of their fav IPs gets turned into one instead of some other game they think it could have been.
>>575139876GBVSR was at EVO for 2 years in a row
>>575139986not saying they are going to play it, just that this game is made for them. this is just another dumbass idea from Sony. Someone at Sony saw how big SF6 is in Japan with casuals, saw there is no big tag fighter to compete with it and figured they could fill that void with Marvel and maybe finally break through fighting games being niche by going the "accessible" route.
What do you spend your green assemble bars on other than just the X+A superdash?
>>575140486The game is less "accessible" than SF6 or Strive though
>>575140620The X+A guard break and the X+A backdash
>>575140740There's also the X+A armored overhead, and assists in combos use bars as well.
>>575140740>2 shit reactable mechanics
>>575140486Truly a retarded gambit from Sony who fail to understand that MVC2 is a casual classic because people played it on the same couch with their friends, which is not the primary way of playing fighting games anymore.This game is not accessible despite being mechanically very straightforward, because tag fighters are the least accessible subgenre of fighters. Any normie who picks this up is going to play online and see 100 things flying into the screen they have no idea how not to get hit by and just be toasted. This wasn't an issue in MVC2 on PS2 because you were just button mashing with a similar level friend in the same room.
>>575140916I remember being in my friends room with the 4 of us playing MvC2. I went 35-0 against them. Better times.
>tokkon hitting 28k>no new porndead game btw
I'm a '21er strivebaby and this feels like when I tried to get bbtag on launch and gave up on it after 3 hours because the tag/combo shit is gross and obtuse, or type lumina with the built in auto combos that actually frustrate less experienced players more than benefit them. If they want the 40IQ casual playerbase they're going to bounce off this once they try to start learning things more complicated than LLL
>>575143770It is harder than expected but I like that it is. I remember trying GBVS and Type Lumina when they launched and they were both so easy I got bored, it's kind of nice to try a new game and feel like there's a lot of room to learn.
I wish there were some basic combos in the command guide section
maintanance is overdid they fix anything
>>575140916>This game is not accessible despite being mechanically very straightforwardTo be fair the character kits are extremely complex for a tag fighter even if it's not super intricate on the system mechanics side
>>575139047maintenance over stinky
Input lag feels fine on PC with Radeon card. I have a RX 7800 XT
>>575144426Grazie, signore
>>575144437Input lag is only an issue on PlayTournaments will be played on Play so expect insane bitching and game losing combo drops
Why do I need to sit through 50 menus and a fucking Sony login every time I boot the game???
SonyNiggs killed this gameIt was gonna die anyway, since it's a tag fighterBut holy, I didn't think it would die in the Beta
>>575145094>Sony logo>games on it>they're all goyslopits insane how bad sony is
Is steam back up or nah?
What's the point of having 4 characters if you probably will only use your leader and 1 really good assist?
Can you map your throw and parry to just 1 button?
>>575146675Not scaring people who get intimidated by the thought of learning more than one character
I played for 10 minutes and got a missing file warning and the game booted me out. I didn’t do shit to the install. This anti cheat garbage is going to make me not want to buy
>>575146675they said on day 1 during the reveal that the game can be played as one fighter with three assists or as a 4-man tag game.
>>575145208>>Sony logo>>games on it>>they're all goyslopseeing that bitch from last of us right as I first opened the game was a huge turn off lollegit was like ugghh I'm really playing a sony game right nowand then I got in game and realized yeah it's a sony game and I don't want to play it
>>575145208>>575147837I keep smirking whenever I boot up, what the fuck went wrong with sony man
>>575147837this is the modern day onions-right
>>575147837Transphoby isn't funny
Wow, Kamala sucks.I thought she would be a mixup god but you can just crouch block until you see her turn yellow, then you can stand guard and block anything she does, unlike Cap who has a H skill that is a low
>have to log into Sony account every time I turn on the game>no "Stay logged in" optionThe fuck is this.
>>575146675I only wanna play Doom with three minions anyway.
>>575149259unfamothly based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DvBXTCO47Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhMmYCm5yEkStage music is pretty good
what the fuck is this throw protection on wake upI guess someone on Arcsys doesnt like slime
>>575148815>Wow, Kamala sucks...... infidel meat!
>>575149767STREETFIGHTER6 BTFO
Was switching between both English and Japanese. Both of Green Goblin's actors sound like they are having the time of their lives.
>>575146675So you can do stuff like this eventually and what the pro scene will inevitably turn intohttps://x.com/GamerNemy/status/2080626522423976254?s=20
>>575151397Is that really that crazy? Maybe I'm missing something
Literally what the fuck is with the AI voice reciting all your inputs, did they test this at all?
>>575151707I like how it says Mag ick instead of Magic
>>575138819
>>575151707You can turn that off in the settings.
>>575150797GODLIKE
>>575149767its an anime game
Marvel still trying to push Kamala. That bitch will never work.Psylocke was, is, and always will be a hot chick.Marvel (vs Capcom) helped Psylocke's popularity rise. This game ain't helpin' Kamala.Kamala is.........this bitch looks up to post-lesbian Carol for Christ's sake.
>>575077725>Wolverine: *sniff sniff* Is that Prime Japanese pussy I smell?!
>>575131431I guess I admit I forgot my place and just assumed everybody playing Tokon has played their share of games. My bad, I guess.
this is fun I stopped worrying about combo shit and just went to matches where nobody knows what's going on. I like magik peni and spidey I dont know who to use for a 4th
This game is gonna be the next best thing to another season of Spectacular Spider-Man.>But Across the Spider-VerseNo. Fuck you.
>>575151639It'll depend on the team, but you'll be able to get strike throw, high low, or left right or a combination of those off of that I don't know if guard cancel will blow those setups up, but they very likely will be a part of the game eventually once everybody gets more time than a beta
>>575138819Sony will force PS5 as the tournament standard BTW (the exhaust vent will also literally melt your USB cord too)
>>575151791Yeah I’m seriously reconsidering buying this game even though I have a dedicated Windows PC just for games and nothing else. I have a PS5 but frankly I want to get rid of it. Sony is such a piece of shit company.
>>575152436I'll tell you when Sony went to shit. In 2014, the main base went from Japan to California, and things were never the same.
>>575148815she's good when you incorporate active tag slop
>>575152550It was in 2016 anon. Thats when SIE moved HQ from Japan to California.
I was on the fence about pre-ordering. Watched the first betas only since I don't own a ps5. Game didn't look that great to me. Kept hearing about improvements and changes but man after putting in about 6 hours total today across training and lobby matches I'll be sitting this one out. I still have a few friends that will play MvC3 at locals with me and that game will never get old since none of us main shit anymore and just play weird teams for fun.
>>5751531382016 is when enshittification went into overdrive
>beta weekend>thread deadGrim. Morbid. Macabre.
>>575073717the snoy system is so shit
>>575154367Buddy I'm practicing COMBOS
>always play a cute girl in every fighting game>magneto is the most fun character in the rosterFuck…
>>575073290>retard thinks that'll do anything
>training>mash light attack>do some impressive combo>summons all my team to do attacks>ends in an assemble attack where we all bash togetherwhat the fuck is going on in this game. im so confused. is this some auto combo shit I gotta turn off?
>>575155581If you get rid of quick tag and quick skill you'll have room for a macro for one of them on a standard gamepad.
Since James Arnold Taylor is playing Magneto in this game, I keep thinking about Obi-Wan Kenobi.
>>575157064>turn offI wish...
>>575156994Have you tried stopped being gay?
>>575157064Yes, it's in the tutorial.
>>575157103i hate the quick tag button. i never want to switch characters i only press this button on accident
>>575157064you shouldn't have skipped the tutorial anon, it explains all of that. the light autocombo will do an assemble attack at the end if you have the meter and requirements for it to happen. you can't use that attack at all unless the opponent is 1 game away from winning a match, its basically a come back mechanic.sadly theres no way to turn off autocombos, hopefully they'll add a way at release.
>>575156994>I HAVE to play to get my dick wet
>>575156994Doesnt matter whos good, this is my team
>>575157434
autocombos and appealing to the mentally retarded is such a black pilling experience in modern fighting games.
>>575157434these are also all some of the most fun
>>575157064You can turn it off in the training settings>Open menu in training>Hit 'Change Menu Type' button to get more options>Go to Gauge Settings>Scroll to bottom and change Assemble Restrictions to StandardNo more Assemble Attack
>>575154367we are all playing NIGGA>>575158393Wait seriously? Can we turn off all auto combos too?
I have very mixed feelings about this game
God i just played a PC player where i swear we were playing at 30 fps on top of being orange connection
>>575158743I played one that was even worse than that and then he immediately hit rematch when it ended as if it was no big deal.
>>575157014Sony fag mad?
>>575157657Where's her nose
niggas on twitter complaing that the game is too slow god I hate ITS MAHVEL BABY fags
List the top 3 things you love about this game and the top 3 things you hate about this gameI'll startLove>graphics>a lot of original roster characters>character identity playstyles are all uniqueHate>too many animations that stall gameplay like wall breaks>auto combos feel insincere>button layout is awkward
>>575158479>Can we turn off all auto combos too?Yeah it's under an option called "Stop Mashing".
>>575159531No.
this game feels too complicated and basic at the same time. I went through the tutorial but its so much info, I still dont know what the other 4 buttons do outside of assemble, light, med, and heavy attacks. All the different ways you tag in people is intimidating and confusing. Having a million characters jump on screen is stimulation overload.But the complexity doesnt really matter cause if I just spam light attack and the assemble button, I win.I dont know bros. I might just straight pass until there is a sale.
>>575159217i legtimeely dont get it, all i can think is this shit is like SFV where for the longest time the player with the better PC was playing a slideshow while the other retard had a perfect 60 fps experience. I cant believe these people can play and do combos at 30 fps
>>575160053I beat everyone I fought so far that used autocombos. Autocombos are not an auto-win.
>>575160053>i havent mastered the game 12 hours after launch so im gonna pass on it
>>575160053>psylocke with pantsI aint a coomer but this looks dogshit god damn lmao.
Why are all of my meaties losing to mashing on wakeup, do I just not have the timing right?
>>575160267Agreed, I don't care enough to get into an argument about it when it comes up, but I do sometimes think characters look better in tights when they do that to censor them, but I can't say that of that Psylocke.
god I want to fuck Peni so badly
>>575160427If they want to censor shit then they need to stop being lazy and just fully redesign her. So many female characters where they just add some random clothes or piece of fabric to cover spots and it destroys original design and looks fucking retarded. As I said corny coomer fags can get rope but this type of shit aint it.
>>575160710That's a child
idk where the comparisons with Strive were coming from, the game definitely feels snappier and faster than Strive and air movement doesn't feel like you're underwater like it does in Strive. But then they still have to put up all these inexplicable "no fun allowed" sings everywhere. Like the enforced delay before you can do an air normal after an airdash feels terrible.
as someone not into capeshit robbie instead of johnny tanks the game at least a point
It's perfectly normal and totally straight as a male to play female characters it's just natural to imagine myself as that character getting defeated and raped by other players in the game
I main cute girls in every single fighting game but Blade is just too good
I havent seen a single anon here mention Ghost Rider or anyone on x making posts about himWhy? I play him as a sub, his range is crazy good, and spamming H H H H H H H does giga damage
>>575161350I'm a straight guy but in my sexual fantasies I usually imagine myself as a woman getting fucked by men, it's kinda just whatever, y'know?
>>575160053The reality is you don't need to master the game to play the game. I have no plans beyond just playing my main character and using assists as links on combos or tag supers.
>>575161480No one cares about Robbie kek just like in comics.
I'm playing on the PS5 for the optimized experience as intended by Sony :^)
Two weeks until my real team...
Doom's crossup dash is sick.
>>575162101what characters arent included in the demo?
>>575161830yeah bro the 4 frame input lag on ps5 it's just to simulate old school mvc3 delay netcode :)
>>575162101I can't buy or play until Thor is in.Also no Hulk in the beta either is gay cause he'd be my other.
>>575162209Loki, DP, Hulk, and Carnage
I skipped the tutorial, what does hitting the assist while they're out do, extend the cooldown on them?
>>575162403Carnage might be cool. Surprised no Venom in this game. Could have sworn I saw him in promotional stuff
>>575162101>no CarnageDropped.
>>575161263Robbie is actually kinda cool in comics unlike in game also there's like 40 different ghost riders the ghost rider that they choose depends on lore and shit in game
>>575162716People thought it'd have Venom, but we got Carnage instead which I'm not complaining aboutDon't get me wrong, I like Venom, but it's nice giving other characters a time in the spotlight
>>575162785This but Hulk.
>>575162792No hes not cool. Hes a corny beaner. Thats all.
Why did they UWU-ify danger
CarnageDeadpoolHulkMagneto
>>575163072Presumably because of a different set of circumstances that lead to her creationInstead of an unhappy accident at the hands of Charles, it seems like it was deliberate decision by the X-Men So instead of a bitter, angry, and resentful AI, they got a helpful, friendly, and curious one
>>575163028I love Johnny but you're fucking lying if you don't think the Hell Charger is fucking rad
>>575163072they want people to play her
>>575163481I dont. He a corny beaner. Not cool. At all. In slightest. Johnny king. One and only. Based.
please fix the pc port before launch thank you
>>575161830This does seem weirdly spiteful towards PC despite being the popular platform for them
Penis Parker cause she got a huge PP
>$95 Canadian loonies>plus several seasons of $40 passes>if you don't want to buy passes, individual character will be like $15 each>need to log into PSN every single time you open the game>no Thor on launchBiggest nah dawg I've yet run into in a fightan since launch SF6.
>>575165168>HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME I CAME INTO THREAD ABOUT A GAME TO TELL YOU IM NOT BUYING IT
>>575165168it’s really bad. all of those factors, region restrictions, terrible optimization and the gameplay itself is going to kneecap a game that could’ve printed easy moneyI don’t think this game will do very well at all
>Okay, so three lights launch the target>Wait, I got an idea, what if I follow the launch of the target with black panther's ability to dash forward in the air!>IT WORKS, I CAN CONTINUE THE COMB->Combo limitFuck off, JUST FUCK OFF. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK OFF.
>>575165168Alright, thanks for letting us know.
>>575064930Where the FUCK is Strange???
Holyshit this game loves the CPUBarely using my GPU.
I can barely find any matchesI have, except all in connection quality
>>575166205Match making seems fucky at the momentTry going into lobbies
I suck, who are the brain dead characters and assists?
>>575165938>theres a strange player
>>575163072>>575163458Also, why does she sound like Luna Snow from Marvel Rivals?
>>575166961
>>575167391>why does she sound like Luna Snow from Marvel Rivals?I'm gonna let you figure that one out
Imagine playing this game in engl*sh :puke:
>>575163072No one would care about her if they didn’t. People barely do now.
>>575168787I care
KEK
>>575163072Why not?
We're never getting Shuma-Gorath again, are we?
>>575169001what the fuck are they doing
>>575171236Sabotaging themselves to spite Valve and PC gaming
>>575171236They have to stop people from datamining the content that will be revealed in less than 2 weeks anyway please understand
They should've just made XMen Legends 3 instead of this stuttery dogshit
Even if Tokon didn't have the PSN fuckery, it's potential for greatness is hard capped by Active Tag.
Its been so long since FighterZ that I genuinely forgot how to time assists properly for combos.
hitting the reset all graphics options to defualt appears to have made the game run way better, even though it put some settings higher then the game defaulted too when it was checking for optimal settings
>>575171835The copium won't work this time
>>575176517You don't have to in this game.
how do i ghostrider
im usually a sick player but i dunno this feels like ass
Max just discovered you can do 4 Doom portals in 1 combo.
This is a disaster on PC
feels a bit odd you can have 3 tag assists one after another. that doesn't seem like a great idea
>>575081073forgot about carnage and how some assists help with a lot of the combos they showcased especially for mag full/midscreen suck ins
>>575178283mash h and u
>>575178940Its going down because people are going to sleep
>>575179342they really want you to play around the vengeance thing though and U just drains it
>>575178940nigga, it's like 1am. people sleep. people worked today. lol
Every single post about the performance is the same "bruhh I have a recommended GPU and 16gb of ram and a CPU from 2017 this game is so I optimised". Filtering out the gayman laptop menace is genuinely a good thing the same retards who think it's okay to play soive online with the potato mod.
>try to sign into psn>error password is incorrect>send recovery password>error secrutity question incorrect>error date of birth incorrect>link expires >error too many sign in attempts; contact costumer supporti know it's my fault for forgetting the login to the 15 year old account, but this is why no one wanted to use gay ass psn accounts to play
>>575178940At 33k it surpassed Street Fighter 6 open beta. Now imagine if Sony hadn't fucked up the game
>wake up>d-pad thumb sore as fuck>"wtf why its not like I played that much yesterday">>>damn I might like this game
>>575178503>admitting to watching max
What is she planning being in charge of food?She can't even eat
>>575181436very cute
>>575181436its meta commentary on how fast food workers are being replaced by machines.
I don't like how tagging into a character completely fucks up your assists order. Calling assists and tagging in general doesn't feel as smooth as it should.I'm already 2 touching by doing basic knockdown into assist launcher bnbs after one hour of playing around in the labJ.L hitting mid on all characters is ?? do they expect us run to strike/throw in a tag game?Performance is abysmal (having to run low-medium settings on a 3070 + 5600x to get 60 fps) + online only BS (PSN crashed 3 times today btw)Movement feels alright, better than Strive but definitely not as good as dbfz
>>575181734>J.L hitting mid on all characters is ?? do they expect us run to strike/throw in a tag game?bro how could I possibly hit someone overhead if my 6f j.l doesn't hit overhead, they'll react to my 8f j.m
Is there any consensus yet on which assists are good? It's hard to tell in the training room since they all do very similar things. I'm maining Ms Marvel, so I expect to play a 2nd who is good into projectiles but after that I just want good assists
Tōkon Warriors,We’re aware of the gameplay and performance issues currently affecting the PC version of MARVEL Tōkon: Fighting Souls.Our team is actively investigating these issues and working on a fix. We’ll share an update as soon as we have more information.Thank you for your patience and understanding, and we sincerely apologise for the impact this has had on your experience.
>>575182147There's a universal overhead called Assemble Smash I think?
>>575182268YEEEEEEES THEY'LL FIX THE GAME on opposite day
>>575182147With the forced delay after a airdash? Yeah I don't think you can actually do legit high/low 50/50s
>>575182352if the airdash is the problem then what difference does it make if j.l is overhead or not. again do u really think the literal 2-3 frame faster is going to make a differenceit's not dragon ball where half the characters are turbo manlets and the rest are huge fucks so you can instant overhead someone
>>575182459If the forced delay after an airdash means your overhead is slower than your low option it's not a true 50/50 and can be fuzzyblocked
being able to have assist come out one after another manually is a bit fuckin weird and i dont think thats intentional
>>575182735what do you mean?the rapidfire assist stuff is intended
>>575182784whats the downside of just spammin all your assists out in neutral as you zone the opponent with projectiles like its a bullet hell?
>>575182878you take chip damage if they get hurt I guessI dont find it that strong because aerial movement is busted and lots of characters have anti zoning abilitiesms marvel is a projectile less rushdown and has a fullscreen +oB grab
I assume crouching lights are faster than standing because I react to overheads by trying to stand jab them and always getting CH for it
>>575183419they are not5L is 6f2L is 7f
i dont know what bbtag is im guessing its about being a dirty fuckin bitch with mix ups?
>>575183469I figured. Wonder if I'm standing too slow then. I'll get it.
>>575183471I have no idea what this means. How far did combos go with BB Tag
>>575183621https://x.com/TistheDac/status/2080570588628746406
>>575183636Oh that's what they meant. I keep forgetting about active tag.
>>575183636>>575183471>probably can just mash on kamalaI feel like any magik calling an assist to keep you locked into her TP is literally better than this lol
>>575183469Can we see the framedata on training mode?
>>575183770yeah the game will get pretty fucking nasty later one but its only day 1 for the majority and were still missing like 3 other characters.>>575183841yeah i think its just the start because that one looks really simple to deal with.but then you start incorporating doom and goblins shit
>>575183849yeah there's an option to enable itI think it's retarded because it shows you a basic menu first without it, then you press a button and advanced options show up
>>575183841Treat it as a concept. Green Goblin is the motherfucker who's going to be doing this shit.
so is this shit just more manageable with a controller?stick is fun but they want you actively slapping like 6 buttons
>>575183636Am I missing something? The tagging is very easy to see and you can't tag back while an animation is playing, so what does it matter if ms marvel is spinning behind you?
>>575183958I don't get the logic here. You'd still have to manage the six buttons regardless of peripheral.
>>575183958pad feels pretty comfortable but I played granblue before which has similar control schemes
>>575184003i mean i used the adjective of "slapping" that should give you a bit of a hint on the difference.
>>575183998>so what does it matter if ms marvel is spinning behind you?she's keeping you stunblocked so ghost rider can 4 way mixup youthe thing there is that the moment you see her do the dumb dodge you can just do literally anything else and escape it
https://x.com/crofts/status/2080757499867574555Oh you can actually get real damage without assemble, huh
give me the ghostrider tech whats an important thing about him that i can do to extend combos?
>>575184282>48k for 75 metermakes senseI'm a retard noob and I also have a 75 meter peni combo doing 45k50k+ is for lab GODS or more meter spending
My PC from 2019 is actually running the game fine, to my surprise. My 3900x and 2070 Super are absolute chads
>>575182878>whats the downside of just spammin all your assists out in neutral as you zone they go on cooldown, so you lock them down but then don't have assists to extend that lockdown or extend a combo afterwardsalso pretty much every assist loses to superjumping away, and then they can just counter call midair assist if you try to chase
whats the difference with like, my assist coming out after another button press, and they do a tackle?
>>575184349The game runs fine. It was the retarded decision to not let people load shaders by default that probably got everybody by surprise. The menus are literally using 3D models. Whoever decided to have that shit off by default deserves to fall down a set of stairs.
>>575184349only big performance issue is the CPU loadif they fix it its fine, which I doubt they will
>>575184341I still can't figure out what the fuck to do with Danger and I'm sad about it.
>>575184496probably hardest character in the game, you'll have to wait
>>575184540I AM AN I-NO MAIN THAT HAS HAD TO SUFFER WHAT THEY DID TO MY GIRL IN STRIVE. I AM TOO FUCKING THIRSTY TO WAIT FOR THE OCEAN TO DROWN ME. I WILL LEARN HOW TO SWIM, ANON.
i just saw the magneto clips and im mad i did that.i didn't fucking know you can extend off a basic ass a 2b b qcf into a god damn short hop cancel combo and now its like lookin up the solution to the puzzlewhat is the ghostrider secret?
>>575184703I played a hundred matches yesterday and havent seen a single ghost riderhe's very weird and like danger I think it will take a bit to figure him out
>>575184751its tough because right now he seems like assist heavy as fuck or they want you abusing gimmicks and resets
>>575184751https://x.com/azelka_/status/2080645695787208956Found some simple enough Danger combos here, but I feel like they could be better
This game has no future. It’s gonna get sales and die in less than a year.
>>575182268the issue is EAC and lack of Proton Patch
>>575185923Do you think Sony will at least drop EAC? Obviously not dropping PSN but dropping EAC would do wondersLike what do they need it for? I don't think you can pirate with PSN anyway
>Tokon was 36 placed in in top sellers>Not it's 47 (meaning the game took like 20-80k refunds)Gz ArcSys you real did out perform yourself hope you are happy.
>>575186303it's all on sony though
>>575185760so like every other fighting game???
imagine the amount that will end up becoming trannys because they play magik
>>575186858They already are, anon.
This game will have skins so it was obvious it would have anti-tampering garbage.But HOLY FUCK HOW DO YOU SHIT THE BED THIS BAD?Game is at 100% CPU 30 hours, 10 days of the week, FPS in the game does NOT reach 60, RETARDED text to speech bitch yaps NON-STOP, CRASH after CRASH after CRASH after CRASH...I am fucking off this shit. Preorder cancelled.
>>575186858What a fucking weird thing to say
Just launced for the first time and stuck on cmd prompt window that opened randomly for 2 mins what the fuck
>>575191114uninstall itit's literally malware trying to datamine your CPU
>>575191175OH FUCK
>57fps with everything set to low and no aaso is the pc port simply gimped out of the gate?
>>575191417yes uninstall and refund it steam refunds it it like in 10-25 minutes when usually refunds take like 20-40h
Hahah why the fuck are text to speech automatically on
>>575191713they knew only the disabled would play a playstation studios game.
LET'S GOOO!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2fruzRvkG4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2fruzRvkG4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2fruzRvkG4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2fruzRvkG4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2fruzRvkG4
>>575186462SF6 keeps hitting or surpassing its all time peak with character releases
>>575194535I don't play sf6 and its a game for grandpas so I fail to see how thats relevent
Why no Burst?
>>575185991You have to understand that the """people""" making these decisions have never played a video game in their life. To them it sounds like a no-brainer, of course you want your multiplayer game to have anti-cheat that will also hamper piracy attempts, especially after having dinner with the anti-cheat developer representatives. Understanding that these """people""" fundamentally do not engage with the hobby is the key to understanding every baffling decision made by large video game -related company. The only exception is Nintendo, whose execs suffer from a related but different kind of boomerism exclusive to Japan.
>>575194535SF6 isn't a fighting game, it's a party game like Smash.
>>575186858Magik clicked the most with me so far and i've been thinking about what it feels like to have someone cum in my ass recently ngl
i've been doing these difficult rejump combos with blade just to realize doing mh2h does mh mh does the same damage
>>575202539i had a stroke while typ
>>575064930Here my Linux bros>https://nitter.net/MARVELTokon/status/2080975090863202680#m
The fact that tag out and assist are separate buttons sucks so hard
i had fun, but damn, the game is so mashy. i feel bad for the people who will play this for money.
>>575204128>who will play this for moneythinking sony is gonna support this game with money for tournaments? LOLThis shit will be relegated behind Tekken at community run tournaments, at evo, and won't even be part of EWC.
>>575184496I think I'm going to spend today trying to play either Danger or Goblin. Danger was the character I saw and immediately thought she would be my guaranteed lock but she feels weirder than expected. Daru is playing her and I saw he was doing an airdash out of the hoverdash to account for the weird angle her dash goes at, I don't think you'll be using it as belligerently as Strive I-No does still, but I think that is the way to use it.
>>575204567i was gonna say they have to support it because they own evo, but i think they sold that to saudi arabia, didn't they? lol
how many hours left?
>>575203123Weird fix because Linux doesn't have Win64 binaries.
>>575196341>SF6 isn't a fighting game, it's a party game like Smash.then why isn't it dominated by trannies and furries like smash faggot?
>>57520644242
>>575206910oh cool for some rason i thought it's the last day
>>575207159maybe they'll extend it consider all the issues they hadlol
this game exists in a weird spot where I feel like it's uninteresting at the low end of play and then becomes way too degen and frustrating when I project what it will be at the high end
>>575207331For me it feels like a classic ArcSys game of being mad fun at a low level when you start but becomes increasingly unfun as you get better and everything boils down to combos and oki with the actual fun parts of fighting games being ever-decreasing part of any match. Like I'm not good at fighters and I'm already doing 10+ second combos on day 2 of a beta. With no combo breaker mechanic, once optimized the vast majority of gameplay will either be doing a combo or getting comboed and that's just really boring to me. Good for those who enjoy that sort of thing I guess.
So who's the most honest and most dishonest?
>>575207331once I started getting combos down I thought "now this will get fun" and it really wasn't? it's not even that fun of a game to watch others who are better are properly setting up combos with assists and active tag slop.
>>575207991Most dishonest is definitely black panther
>>575207991>check rankings>Zippy is Master rank with Black PantherBlack Panther.
>>575206603proton creates a windows env
>>575186303>>Tokon was 36 placed in in top sellers>>Not it's 47 (meaning the game took like 20-80k refunds)lol go on the reddit and you'll see people saying "the game doesn't feel like it's for me, but I love marvel so I'm gonna keep my preorder"outside of the content creators this game is DOA.
My PC can run the game fine mostlybut the night new york stage.....
>>575213639Speaking of which, does the game run well on the PS5? Would be funny if it dropped frames on some stages but tournaments couldn't ban the problem stages since it affects game balance as stages are different sizes.
>>575215847it has a pretty sizable input delay
>>575215847I don't know about framerate but PS5 does have a higher input lag so tournament players will complain regardless
>>575216130thankfully I doubt punk will be playing in any tokon tournaments so we won't have to hear that much whining
>BBTag but you cant run it on PCwhy the fuck are we 2 for 2 on this in the past 3 years
>>575217257>thankfullyit's a legit issue so punk would be right for once
>>575217257>yall this game trash i dun know why i even bother coming to tournaments cus its always the same shit with laggy ass setups
>>575217505>read it in his voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyBjekWopTk
https://youtu.be/za3-MZN7yRY?is=orc0u1ZxagyQTp7O
Don’t respond to Clayton
>>575219398Dude this is good. You should be /tokon/'s personal content creator
>Arcsys is reposting troubleshooting fixes from Steam forums and Reddit instead of patching their own gameKEK
After an hour of labbing I finally found a simple bnb for ms marvel that does 31k damage meterlesstime to log on twitter to find an even easier route that does 60k damage instead
the fact that i'm at risk of clicking a clayton video link at any point during my day is a human rights violation
>>575213639New York stage runs like it's a triple A open game at ultra settings. It's a fucking fighting game for fuck sake
>>575226426I swear you niggers are trying to play on decade old laptops or something. I've got a several year old mid-range rig that struggles to maintain 40fps in MH Wilds and I've been playing Tokon without any issues at all.
>>575225960They could be releasing hotfix patches....
>>575226905ive had this chromebook for 8 years. it should run this game
>>575226905>t. 50 fps 7rbf nigga
>>575227651Post CPU
>>575227267console patches take time for certification so depending on how stuff is patched they might just not be able to do anything in the timeframe of the beta
>>575227684r7 5700x3d
>>575227978yeah I can claim I've got a 9850x3d, toothat's the problem with you shitposting niggers you can never actually provide any proof
>>575227893Live service goliath yearly sloppa like CoD does public alphas 3 months and betas month+ before release because even they cant fix shit in two weeks so good luck to fucking ArcSys lmao.
>>575227684NTA but I have a Ryzen 5 5600 which should be better than the recommended requirement, so why am I getting 100% CPU usage while playing?
Coming out the labs on demon time. Hope the connections are decent.
>>575227893dude what?? the PC port is fucking broken how is console patch gonna fix that
>>575228651this is why
>>575228928if they patch one they usually have to patch both so the versions match and prolly patch their own servers too. UE5 is such a shit engine.
>>575228215nigga, the game runs like ass even after shader warm-up and even the devs acknowledged it.
game already down about 5k players from the same time as yesterday, on a weekend. I said this yesterday that if the game loses players between friday-sunday that's a bad sign for the beta, at least on PC. no wonder it's dropping in the top sellers on steam. game is being refunded either cause people don't like it (me) or it runs like complete ass on their PC. If the game was that fucking good you'd see the numbers steady or climb from good word of mouth.
>>575229145>the why>tokonno shit
>>575229605If anything only losing 5k players after people shat relentlessly on the game yesterday is a good sign. There is no point in doomposting about it. Just wait the launch to see if they fixed the game and buy it if they did. Anyone pre-ordering a game in big 26 is retarded anyway
>>575230214>losing 5k players after people shat relentlessly on the gamereddit and twitch are glazing the fuck out of this marvel goyslop fest
>>575230214good post
>>575230214>buy it if they didbut it's a shitty modern tag fighter, I'm not a furry or a tranny, why would I buy it?
>>575231837If you don't want to play the game then you don't buy it do you have brain damage?
>>575231837I dunno, if you aren't a furry or a tranny, why are you posting in a thread that's dedicated to a game for furries and trannies according to you?
>>575229605First fighting game?
>>575205319I think I'm just happy you can air dash after you hover dash. Its the hover dash from the Guilty Gear games first, and not the Strive one.Though why they didn't just give her tridash, I don't understand. You can hold up to go faster but I don't see any particular mixup utility outside of time scams.
What's going on with me trying to do wake up DP? That feels awkward. Can't get it out.
>>575229605Ultimately it's a beta. I played yesterday but there's not much more for me cause I wanna play Hulk and he's not in the beta.
Giga Chad Magneto.
>Buy TOKON on PC>PS Network goes down>Can't play the game
>>575233284dps aren't invincible on startup
>>575235997Welcome to the future, isn't it wonderful! That copypasta about verification cans seems positively quaint now.
>>575233773>FOR THERE IS NO COST THAT IS TOO GRRRRRRREAT
My heart warms every time I see a 2xkofag or marvelfag complaining that the game is too slow or that you can't insta tag into a 8-way mixup
>almost never have a stable 60 FPS on a 4080 Super + i9 14900KF
i keep seeing people do combos where they stay in the air for a long time but i fall down after like two or three normals. what am i doing wrong
>>575239851>2xkofag or marvelfagwithout these fags who's gonna be playing the game retard?
>>575240163My rig is only 3600 + i7 and runs a stable 60fps, you either have laughably low amount of ram or the Sony shit is interfering with some other program you have installed.
>>575241029If those fags could keep a game alive 2xko wouldn't be on life support
>>575241376>If those fags could keep a game alive 2xko wouldn't be on life supportyeah so how is this faggy ass game gonna survive?
The only thing that really confuses me about this game's design is the absurd amount of crossup protection.
>>575239851Blew my fucking mind that people were complaining in twitch chat that roll on wakeup makes oki too weak. These are the same fucking faggots who start complaining about no skill coinflip 50/50 games as soon as they get put in a mixup
>>575241449With the players that won't alt-f4 into uninstall the game because they are not getting hit with unreactable handshake tag mixup bullshit
>>575241638Twitch chat are literal braindead retards, I don't know why anyone would ever read anything they say. And the real problem is that the roll is way too weak once people lab the game, you can OS airdash for a safejump regardless of which way they roll with the macro, so the only thing it accomplishes on regular wake-up is getting out of the corner, which isn't even good because it then allows the opponent to do their sandwich mix on you, and any hit corner carries back to the corner anyway.
Where's the damn new bread
>>575241735so no one cool
>>575241554they really, REALLY did not want this game to have mix. I have no idea why.
Carnage not being playable sucks
>>575244089true but im having fun with parker>>575244842>>575244842>>575244842
if you don't like tokon I have a game that might be more your speed
