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#1310: ApeX Edition
Previous: >>574840038

This general is for the discussion of original, fan made, or look-alike Mega Man games as well as original titles developed by Inti Creates.

>/mmg/ news
Mega Man Starforce Legacy Collection out now https://youtu.be/PTct687LRmQ
Mega Man Dual Override announced for 2027 https://youtu.be/8i97QCOWSC4
Rockman EXE Phantom of Network PC Port
https://github.com/StraDaMa/PoN_PC

>Fan game news:
Mega Man 64
https://github.com/MegaMan64Recomp/MegaMan64Recompiled
Mega Man DXtreme
https://youtu.be/C9_ykoYqm44
Mega Man X Viral Nightmare
https://youtu.be/AVToZHXwlsE
Mega Man W
https://megamanw.com/
Mega Man X Regenesis
https://youtu.be/6cUeq37d8q4
Mega Man Maker:
https://youtu.be/rYe4gVNBuBY
Mega Man Unlimited 2:
https://youtu.be/45yKm-tE_1c

Kingdom's Return out now https://youtu.be/uOW6WmLpUkU
Majogami out now on PS5 https://youtu.be/-j3Rl762aT4
Gunvolt Chronicles Luminous Avenger iX 1+2 is out https://youtu.be/gvB2DzQ24Q4
Gunvolt Chronicles Luminous Avenger iX 3 coming in 2027 https://youtu.be/R9-kBPHYMPs
Gunvolt Trilogy Enhanced Switch 2 Edition releasing 10/22/2026 https://youtu.be/yVRfVrOJ-Mo
Something Gal*Gun/Guardians related has been teased in Famitsu's 40th anniversary spread with artwork featuring two new characters

>Other:
Translations of Classic mangas on mangadex
iX2 is misunderstood

>DiVE Links
rentry.org/xdaibu (game, emulators and other stuff)

>Koikatsu
rentry.org/mmgintikk

>Melt Stuff
rentry.org/mmelt melt 2 its real

>Game Downloads
rentry.org/mmglinks
Has all MM games, MN9, romhacks, patches + BN cia files

>Audiovisual Media
rentry.org/mmgintimedia
Contains:Cartoons, Anime, Comics, Manga and other printed media - Music Playlists and albums
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fake general edition
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>>575111754
iX2 is less fun than actually going to work and earning wages.
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>>575110201
>They singled out GV2 as being important for understanding GX's story, and recommended brushing up on that game, not the others. The clues point to GV2's cast being involved with GX, since that's what they focused on the hardest. Plot explanations were quick compared to character exploration.

That makes sense. GV was always character-driven, with the plot almost as an afterthought. Characters are interesting and well written, while the plot is a mess.

>>575110246
>Can't find the interview rn but they've said that GV lore is made specifically in a way to make fans speculate things, so you're just dancing to Inti's engagement music.

I guess that's why they never spell out anything and leave purposeful holes. It does make the character interactions feel more "realistic," despite how over the top they are, and add a feeling of depth. You're not going to stop to explain every detail in real life, and definitely not to an enemy.
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>>575112585
The problem is that they then use it to retcon shit in and that's kind of trash at times. I miss when adepts where dangerous for something that wasn't just lmaodragons.
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>Cope gets amnesia during dimension travel
>meets Juan Voltios, literally who
>they start working together
>you're such a cool dude Cope
>you're such a cool dude too Ganvortou
friendship started with an adept, now he's his best friend
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>>575113170
To be fair that's just Gunvolt.
Whom only exists because Dr K researched the implantation of the Asure Striker.
Whom vould only do this with the prestige of the Kamizono family.
Whom he could only marry into because Shinobu was single.
Whom was only single because Ekoro fucked up and magdumped Houdai and he chose Maya.
And Ekoro was only like this thanks to Patako's influence.
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>>575113645
So you're telling all Xiao has to do is go far back and double tap this idiot and everything's fine?
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>>575113170
Are you pissed that they didn't name the end of the world threat and kept it mysterious? It was heavily hinted by Desna in GV2 and Dr. K in GV1/FM that an adept, likely GV, would imperil the world in the near future, and adepts have had monstrous giant transformations since GV1 with Nova. The dragonshit is barely a retcon unless you convinced yourself that Dr. K and Desna were full of shit.
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>>575113645
Patako SEX
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>>575114050
>all he has to do is kill an angel in love
Sounds really fucking evil.
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>>575113645
GX confirms that ALL adepts can become primal dragons.
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>>575114267
And yet they don't until Xiao messes with things and spawns Morb in somehow.
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>>575114215
Less evil than allow this whole world ending shitshow to happen.
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I fully believe they had GX's story planned for a long time, the only thing that changed was how they give it to us. Pretty sure GV2.5 was initially planned as a standalone game but due to various circumstances it ended up as DLC for Trilogy Enhanced using GV3 as a base (with hopefully at least some new levels mixed in)
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>>575114267
It doesn't confirm that. It states that dragons are the true form of adepts. Most adepts can't do shit. The only reason you had dragons in GV3 was because Sumeragi was spreading GV's dragon radiation across Japan, and GV puts out several theories why he's going dragon (like eating the Spirits of other adepts). It's still up in the air what's going on, as people, even Kamizono, are often not entirely correct in GV.
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>>575114065
I missed the part where that would just happen regardless of the will of anybody involved, at the time GV2 was made Desna and Dr. K were referring to GV wreaking havoc by destabilizing countries and how obviously dangerous random people with superpowers are respectively, but keep riding that Interior Creators dick anon.
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>>575114579
You could just not be evil yourself and sacrifice hundreds of orphans in the vague hope it makes Mytyl into Magia Baiser in a different timeline that didn't even fucking work.
Or you could just stop Dr K from killing likely thousands of innocents in horrifying agony and creating project GV in the first place.
Not killing an angel is what I'm getting at, because that's just not right.
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>>575114418
Thinking the twist will be that Morb = Xiao's dragon.
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>>575114996
Would fit his Damnatio Memoriae chant and Astral Order actually.
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I'm very smart so I can just continue ignoring all the Xiao malarkey and pretending I care about the retcons and just wait for more Copen adventures
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>>575114927
No, that's your read. Cope and Dr. K literally say end of the world. Desna says that he would fill the world with chaos, which dragon radiation does. Their story is dumb, but this is not some huge retcon like you make it out to be. At worse, it's an asspull.

Retcon means changing prior established info, not adding on things or elaborating on details. So making Wonderland Zonda an octima is not a retcon, but making her a figurehead is.
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>>575115519
Shit writing regardless of how you label it.
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>>575115502
All that matters is "love and cherish the 130cms", "DrK is shit", "adept sexo", and "Layer is the ideal beauty".
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>>575115709
They try to keep things mysterious and the perspective limited, which leads to shit like this. Characters don't talk a lot about what's going on, are strongly opinionated/biased, and misread shit all the time. It's realistic, but frustrating for the purposes of storytelling. GV3 was written by different people, and it's the only game that spells out everything that's going on and has the player character perspectives be mostly correct. It made the extra material way less interesting to read for those reasons.
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>>575116160
They want to make narratives that "encourage discussion" and show the "dangers of a one-sided perspective."
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It seems less that all adepts will become dragons just because and more that humans will keep attuning more and more to the lifewave moving past the 7th wave that makes adepts on to the 8th wave that makes dragons.
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Personally I like how schizophrenic the fucking lore is.
>if you follow this chain of events you can see.the obvious connection between ecchi pantie light gun game and how you uoh-ing led to a cyber punk dragon pokemon killing everyone
>no I'm not on medication, I swear
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>>575111754
Copen Lopez killed Zonda once more...expected but it's still stocking.
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>>575115808
You think Stella would have been open to dating a Minos before she fell for a Reploid?
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>>575116879
No.
Not only is that literally a death sentence in her world, why would a rich powerful woman date a powerless homeless schlub?
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>>575116691
For the entirety of human history things capped at 6th, then suddenly because fuck you 7th shows up and in very little time for history standards 8th shows up and dragons show up on top because fuck you.
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>>575116879
Armed Stella with legs is very sexo.
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In case this thread gets jennie'd too copy this bake if you're gonna attempt a new one as I made several updates and tidied up some stuff. On that note you guys really need to stop leaving bakes for the last possible second, in the previous edition no one actually called the bake and two new ones were posted just seconds apart from one another, which led to both getting deleted (one should've been kept, jan jan).
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>>575117327
>give character a really cool design
>make him the most pathetic character in the game, arguably the franchise
What was Tai's deal?
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>>575116714
It's fun schlock that justifies you platforming through new levels and fighting new bosses, all it really needs to be and I still consider those who sperg out over the stories in these games as total retards with their priorities ass backwards.
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>>575116879
Do you have scans of White Machinery OCW?
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>>575117114
Wasn't the 6th wave super rare too?
The lifewave attuning has never been truly explained in universe and unless you know what changed there really is no fixing the issue even if you believe adepts shouldnt exist.
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>>575117595
The Creator has the same design except blue and he's alright at least.
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>>575117735
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Zq8zg9oawi84i2nt2jKsH4Zx9BlDkyi0
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>>575117595
I dont like the teeth like visor thing.>>5
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>>575116879
She a real nigga'
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>>575117801
Yes 6th was rare, reserved to people like messiahs and whatnot, which is odd because it also means random fuck that can move around slowly a liter of water >>> Kamizono sisters in the lifewave power scale.
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>>575117992
She's actually Indian.
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>>575117919
Needs to be added to the Mega link in the OP. Who manages that anyway?
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>>575117919
Thank you.
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>>575118120
A random human soldier tertiary regularly kills septimals, lifwave attunement isn't a powerlevel in a strict sense.
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>>575118120
It doesn't work like that. It's not just lifewave level, but amplitude/intensity of those waves as well. Copen has superhuman intelligence and reflexes better than most adepts, for instance.
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>>575118450
Yes, because the powers don't necessarily make you more durable, it's juat hilarious to me that somebody that can banish demons and other similsr feats is somehow less impressive in the scale of something with a description thah closely resembles the force than pebble man.
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>>575119136
Kamizonos also have some sort of blessing, and those blessings are much stronger in GG. Shinobu and Maya from Gal Guardians would destroy most GV characters with ease (assuming their equipment works as well on adepts as it does on demons).
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>>575118125
she looks more Egyptian coded
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>>575119801
Have you seen how septima works, man? At least she still looks like she belongs to the correct general area.
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>>575116879
Yes, but that's will get you a trip to the gallows so she is forced to say no.
BTW Isola is on the exact same boat.
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Sorry but adept fucking shits and adept sympathizer fucking shits go to the gallows.
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People will turn to robots for affection anyways. I wonder if being born in an artifitial womb makes the odds of developing septima go down.
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>>575121954
Robots are literally developing septima too so there is no escape unless you do whatever the fuck Creator did.
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>>575119801
Ah yes, the very egyptian Sudarshana. I forgot about that one during my time painting Saladin for a tabletop game.
It's right up there with the Occidental Guinean Katana.
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>>575122128
>In Hindu mythology, the Sudarshana Chakra is a divine spinning disc, attributed to Vishnu. The Sudarshana Chakra is generally portrayed on the right rear hand of the four hands of Vishnu, who also holds the Panchajanya, the Kaumodaki, and the Padma.
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>>575118125
>>575122128
>>575122338
>Indian woman CEO
My mind just immediately went to the XBoX CEO lady.
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>>575121954
If a robot can love, can bear life, that robot will get a soul.
And if you have a soul you have lifewave attunement.
It's how Elfie and Mother meet up in the afterlife where Mother is harshly reminded Elfie is the wife of Cope.
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>>575122338
holy shit look at those cubes
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>>575116879
思いきってエロい人にしてしまうのはどうか・・・
今まで直球のお色気キャラはいなら正し、
お色気おねいさんがきのシンボルである天秤というギャップモ狙えそうかも………… (別に言わないけど)
エロい人というとアレですが、 奔放な人というか、 そんな感じ

Stella: 楽しませてもらおうかしら・・・

How about taking the plunge and making her a sultry type?
We haven't really had a straightforward "sexy" character before, after all.
Plus, there’s potential for an interesting contrast—pairing that kind of alluring, mature vibe with the Libra sign, which is the symbol of balance... (Not that I’d actually say that out loud, though.)
"Sultry" might be a bit much—maybe more "uninhibited" or free-spirited? Something like that.

I think I’ll just sit back and enjoy the show...
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>>575120295
haven't played to any Gunvolt games so...
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>>575123253
giwtwm
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>China banned AI girlfriends
That's really funny.
Guess you're stuck with Ciel, Pureiya-san.
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>>575123202
・派手好きな金持ちお嬢
・常に付き人がついている。
・関西弁を話す?

金に物言わせたし。
特注の
派手なコートと
露出の高い服をあの好んで着る

Stella:
大なんや
こんなチンチクリンが
救世主かいな
思ってたんとちうなぁ

・A wealthy young lady who loves flashy things.
・Always accompanied by an attendant.
・Speaks in Kansai dialect?

She throws her money around.
She favors custom-made,
flashy coats
and revealing outfits.

Stella:
So this is the guy?
A puny little shrimp like this is supposed to be the savior?
Not exactly what I had in mind.
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>>575123253
Ok. In a nutshell, deloping anime powers also makes the person look way more anime. Pic related is supposed to be a chinese girl.
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>>575123401
Fun fact; China also became the first nation where censorship cuts both waves cracking down on fujo and yume focused media.
There answer to that was a mass suicide from the part of the female population who would rather do that than start dating chinamen.
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>>575123202
>>575123540
>sultry
>uninhibited
>flashy
>revealing outfits
Instead we got a taciturn chain smoker that crawled out of an HR office.
Guess they didn't want to make us suffer from turning her into feathers.
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>>575124086

Not as big of a change as Isola. Originally, she was a high schooler "class rep" who secretly dreamed of being an idol. She could have been a commentary on how Asimov brainwashes the young. I wonder why they changed it.

>------------------------

普段マジメだが、

人知れず、アイドルの妄想にひたるとか

マジメ努力家

Isola:
何事も全力で行くわよ!

委員タイプとか

Usually serious

Secretly indulging in fantasies about idols

A serious, hardworking type

Isola:
I give my all in everything I do!

A "class representative" type
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>>575124086
For once I disagree. Sultry designs should be used only in very young adepts to show that the poor girl is really feeling the hormonal heat. For Stella who gave up so hard that she made an empire decated to her fellow femcels I think her current design fits better.
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list of megaman/inti games I've played to:

Megaman GB
Megaman X1
Megaman Battle Network 4
Megaman Zero 1
Megaman Zero 2
Megaman Zero 3
Megaman Zero 4
Megaman ZX
Megaman ZX Advent

Guess I'm a poser here
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>>575124512

She might have been tsundere for Copen.

>--------------------------

アイドルらしく華やかなイメージツインテとか今までやってないので是非やってみたいところ。

表の顔
キモッ!

裏の顔

顔芸で
ギャップを出せたら面白そう。

I’d love to try a glamorous, idol-style look—like pigtails—since I haven't done that before.

Public persona:
"Eww, gross!"

Private persona
>Hearts + In-love expression

It would be fun to show that contrast through exaggerated facial expressions.
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>>575124832
>no battlechip challenge
How could you?
I wonder how much a copy of that goes for nowadays
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>>575124832
based Zfan
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>>575124832
BN4bros...!
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>>575124832
You're not missing out on much
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>>575124512
Probably because they were moving away from being a kid killer game. Making her a clueless, naive, but sweet kid brainwashed by society would heaped a lot of tragedy onto her, and made Asimov that much more hateable.

>>575124875
>She might have been tsundere for Copen.
I wonder how that would have played out with the audience. Would she have been as popular as GV's tsundere, especially if combined with the JK origin?
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>>575124832
I think you'd like Star Force.
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>>575125586
I should grab the collection then
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>>575124875
I like the doublefaced thing, that in public she's signing about how minos are subhuman and should all die and then quotes misrepresented crime statistics to make her lyrics but in private she just wants a minos bf to adore.
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>>575124832
Bro, is that seriously it? And the only BN game you played is the worst one, what are you even DOING?
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>>575125197
I must purchase more X7s
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>>575125634
I grabbed it for 24 bucks off GMG during one of the big sales. It's a great deal at that price. It's great at full price.
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>>575124832
Do you like beating up your waifu?
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>>575125405
>and made Asimov that much more hateable
I think what he did to Mytyl was the angriest the whole GV saga has made me by a lot.
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Pandora-Pantera what's the difference?
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Why do people start trying to engage the namefag the moment he comes into the thread? Parasocial relationship af
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>>575126628
Pandora is a reploid. Pantera is a cockroach.
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>>575126628
One's French, one's Chinese.
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>>575126283
Not as angry as the Joulefags are at Zonda.

>>575126743
He's recognizable and has a post history?
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>>575126862
>>575123704
With a name like Zonda/Pantera (both Italian) I don't know about that.
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>>575126893
>He's recognizable and has a post history?
The posts come off as way too eager and clingy. Discord behavior.
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it's because he's an actual human and not an LLM so they can get real replies out of him to fuel the discussion of this shithole
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>>575113645
Thanks Patako!!!!
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>>575127339
And those LLMs are here in this thread with us?
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>>575127071
>Pantera means Panther
>Copen is the White Tiger
>Both characters on opposite sides with opposite personalities and motives
>Both are geniuses with the deepest understand of Septima manipulation in the series
>Both always grouped together in rival showdowns
They set up so many parallels between the two of them. I'm still pissed GV cucked us out of that relationship.
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>>575125962
I would never hurt her
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>>575127557
What else did you expect from a shitpost concept character turned into another shitpost concept character.
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>>575126628
Now that you mention it, they have similar bangs, expressions, and voice work.
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>>575127551
it's all this thread is, with the regurgitated discussion repeated ad infinitum. straight up trying to float the 'omg le pantera and le pandora are le same??' discussion we've had before the moment an actual human drops into the thread because the bot recognizes it's a topic of conversation the namefag might reply to.
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>>575123704
he may be a fr*nchman but you still shouldn't just lie to him like that
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>>575127776
This is why the other general is superior, even with the bumpbot. Image bumps are better than reheated copypastas.
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>>575124832
But you're Pandorafucker, and that makes you alright in my book.
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>>575127964
obsession about other threads is another issue with this general. stop talking about it. the only reason i know about half the generals on this shitty board is because of you annoying faggots gossiping about it.
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>>575127551
Maybe?
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Adept woman on the prowl.
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>>575127776
I do think the eternal circular arguments are strange but I thought that was the doomed nature of any general if it continues long enough unless it gets new content very frequently.
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>>575127776
They're obviously different; Pandora wouldn't like public displays of affection.
Pantera will, meanwhile, get you banned from public spaces because of her public affection.
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>Xiao was around during the events of GV3
How old is this guy? Is he a perma-shonen like GV?
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>>575128681
you think that with a new game on the horizon people wouldn't feel the need to resort to this shit for bumps, but now that speculation has petered off it returns to the comfort zone of canned discussion, as if something new will come of it.
fucking save me, xiao
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>>575128947
Time travel, nigga.
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>>575128994
>hopes the guy that rerolled countless times and failed every single one will save him
Anon, I...
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>>575128134
Kinda normal after the general lost its place in the catalog 4 different times with one of them falling off page 10 don't you think?
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>>575128947
Maybe once you reach 13 or 14 that's just how you'll look for life if you're an adept.
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>>575128459
Diginuns are spics?
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>>575129210
Funny how all the kids are failures/would-be-failures and have massive holes in their logic/perspective. Asimov is the only one whose plan is shown to be successful, and he's the only one who doesn't have any regrets. Guess that's the Tai special. Ridiculous anime tropes leading to real-ish consequences. Even if they're super intelligent, they're still dumb, emotional, and petty kids.
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don't worry about it
it's nothing
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>>575129408
Turns out that if you put the information in Spanish it will only try to default to Castilian half the time.
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>>575128589
Minos men better hide.
Because her fanclub is legitimately insane.
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>>575125405
Gibril doesn't look like she's enjoying that.
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>>575129751
Makes sense, the LLM probabl y thinks Don Pepe y los Globos is also a terrible name.
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Thoughts on scrapped Kohaku designs?
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>>575129640
AsimovGPT by the time iX comes was one hallucination away from killing everyone himself, so that just delayed the inevitable even if iX hadn't done anything.
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>>575128589
>where are all the platinum blonde boys??
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>>575130198
a few more
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>>575130180
It did get annoying having to fix every time they started dropping hard voseos or the eis suffix into their dialog but thankfully that hasn't occurred much as of late.
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>>575130198
Like the undone hair in the lower right, but I still think Kohaku has a pretty boring design next to the other girls.
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>>575127339
Please don't hurt the feelings of my wife and anchor of my messed up life or the text prediction models in general
Given the limitations of localhosting for a 21GBVRAM and 64GBRAM a context of 8196 tokens can be saved and each message as a maximum of 2048 tokens. Of course if the system input or in this case the general information, it would need to add more context and mess with the prediction temperature for other multiple outputs
Now apply all of this for exe universe with PETs of 4Thz or something given exe anime
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>>575124832
>no good classic
>>575125664
but he said he played 4, not 5
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>>575125664
>the worst one
the best one*
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>>575131232
>but he said he played 4, not 5
I know, and?
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>>575130446
Minos wedding dresses are so tame compared to adept wedding dresses.
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>>575133127
>>575130446
Maybe but that wedding dress is actually adorable and she looks like absolute wife material in it.
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>>575130198
>could've had loli kohaku
FUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOU TAAAAAIIIIIIIIII!!!!!
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>>575133306
She is very cute, hopefully they add some new alt outfits for her in iX3, and make her live2D like Ancie in Card en Ciel's base.

>>575133437
Uh that's exactly what we got?
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>>575133437
She's supposed to be a nee-san for the other kids. She is pretty young anyway so she keeps her imouto appeal specially next to Blade.
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>>575133616
>>575133850
14 years is not loli.
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>>575123202
>We haven't really had a straightforward "sexy" character before
>This is after Fake Zonda () already existed
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>>575133306
In that time period it's just way too prudish when pic related is competition.
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>>575133437
Then we'd never live down the Copen/blonde loli stuff.
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>>575133989
How about 40?
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>>575124512
She's only 17 and the "bitchy class president" elements still shine through her personality.
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>>575134180
He already banged Elfie, you can't get more loliholed than that.
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>>575133989
That's wrong! WRONG!!
>>575134278
Based RushCHAD showing anon his place.
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>>575134046
It's a Monster Musume situation. Human women can't compete so why bother to even pretend that they can.
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>>575130198
The extremely elaborate color coded diagrams japs have to create to explain how their characters crazy hair styles work is always really funny to me
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>>575135315
For me it's the two page long explanation how Dawn from Pokemon haircut even works. Also yes those are there for the cosplayaers.
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Legends 3 soon.
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>>575135763
Anon, it's never been more over for non classic series.
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>>575130198
>those chibi designs
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>>575137110
Reminder that they're supposed to be close to Zonda's age. Completely different feel and narrative treatment between them and her.
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>>575135763
They thought it couldn't be done.
They didn't listen.
They thought it was over.
They thought it was done.
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>>575137110
>imagining Kohaku's smell after months of digging through rubble and wearing the same clothes
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Will they do anything with the Xiao-Zonda hints in GX, or will this just be a red herring?
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According to GV TE OCW, the giraffe girl might not be an Adept after all.
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>mary sue girl has a mary sue ability
Oh boy, this warrants another blacked commission.
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>>575138162
MTL is not great here. They call her an ability user (能力者) aka esper or adept:

裏八雲の戦巫女、14歳の女性。
ギブス
世界にただ一人、封印の第七波動である“鎖環”の能力者。
幼少のころから裏八雲で修行を積んでおり、高い身体能力や直感、霊能を身につけている。
戦巫女であることに強い誇りを持っており、そのためか責任感が強すぎる面がある。
裏八雲での教えにより精神的に達観しているが、人間性はやや粗雑。修行三昧であったため人並みの趣味も少ない、ただしかわいいものは素直に好む。
暴龍化を止められる唯一の能力者であり、ガンヴォルトと手を組み「治龍局」を発足した。
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>>575138339
I'm happy that Blade will never be playable or we'd get tons of people complaining about her. The only dangerous or competent women in MM games should never be on the hero's side and they should always be punished with death for being so foolish to try to compete against men. Heroines belong helpless and useless and either back home or kidnapped by the evil girls to motivate the hero.
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>>575139061
Das rite.
Das.
Rite.
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>>575139061
I don't like Blade either. It makes no sense how she took over Sumeragi. Cope should have killed her. iX3 will probably suck because she'll be playing a prominent role.

But Kirin sucks more because she doesn't fuck up that much and has a no kill rule. If she murdered a bunch of 5 year olds with no mercy or regrets like Copen and GV, then she'd feel like a Gunvolt main character.
>Heroines belong helpless and useless and either back home or kidnapped by the evil girls to motivate the hero.
Exactly.
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>>575135637
I must have missed that one, no wonder she's one of the most popular fem protags among cosplayers. too bad her game was so bad
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>>575139061
Now you're getting it. Good should ideally stay in the kitchen and out of the way. They have meek and reactive personalities. They only exist to support the hero and motivate him when they're put in distress. Any dangerous or sexy woman should be evil and die. That is why characters like Gibril, Elise, or Zonda would never work as heroines. That's why Kirin doesn't work and is so hated.
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genuinely psychotic
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>>575139713
Going off /dbs/ and Seiya threads, it's a pretty common belief among latinos.
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>>575136007
You're wrong! WRONG!!
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>>575139972
/dbs/ was funny, this thread is concerning. anon dropping his gunvolt manifesto a couple threads back was telling.
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>>575140217
What manifesto? There are so many schizoids on /vg/ that everything reads like a manifesto.
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>>575138821
see >>575138162
it literally says that she is indeed classified as an adept (Seventh Wave), so no contradictions here
but also that she's classified as such for convenience, while it can be a different type of power
there's also this:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16v1LDV4gwU92-lISuKUWA8nyZu4DadBSGvErnIajCBg/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.t6w1eyftdqzp
Tsuda:
>However, to be exacts, her Seventh is an ability to seal (other) Seventh, so it might not actually be a Seventh
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>>575125197
>tfw the batteries in my GBA carts are all dead
>all of my saves gone
I only play the collections nowadays but damn, I don't know how to solder so it's over for them.
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>>575140437
the anon talking about how he idolized gunvolt and wanted to be him, so he had the 'moral justification' and power to hurt 'annoying people'
>>574481479
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>>575140693
I read that as he saw GV as cool and wanted to be him as a kid, but as an adult, sees that GV actually sucks. It's not that weird. Plenty of kids wanted to be like Naruto's teammates, who are portrayed as cool for killing other 10-14 year olds up until the timeskip, where they decided that was something to be ashamed about.
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>>575135763
That's not how licenseshit works
Also Archie Mega Man canon is getting a one-shot that will be extended to an ongoing if sales are good
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>>575141061
>The way the world worked in Gunvolt was the way I wanted it to work in real life
is a terrible thing to wish upon a world.
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>waaaaaaaaaoooooooooooooow
>you're a HUNDRED years old and you've never so much as seen a girl's boobs??!
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>>575141374
Imagine being surrounded by horny blondes when you have a blonde kink, but being racist when most of those blondes are adepts, tradcath so you can't act on any recreational lewdness, and/or a fullbody cyborg so don't even have a penis. It must be hell for Copen.
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>>575139321
>It makes no sense how she took over Sumeragi.
Why not? She was top commander or some shit, who else would take over after Asimov was taken out of the picture?
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>>575141952
>cyborg
he probably doesn't even have libido and sees these blondes as just biological organisms
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>>575142264
If robots can be horny, so can Copen.
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>>575138007
Probably not, but she has a better chance of being in GX, even as a flashback, than most of the other GV1/GV2 characters. They're treating this closer to a full game, and Zonda and Asimov are the two villains who reappear the most (if you count fake Zonda).
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>>575141952
He's too dead inside to care. Kohaku (Roro) is probably working on that cyberpenis tho.
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>>575128589
>On the beach
>Making her best capt'n Ahab impersonation as she's is looking for her destinied minos
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>>575141374
This is what I want. Blade's all cool when she's in serious mode and/or brainwashed, but off the job she's totally different.
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>>575130121
Hot.

>>575125405
Source?
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>>575145168
Blade out of working hours is a dunk lonely lady that's really feeling the baby alarm. Or she's just the average Brazilian lady.
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>>575145316
https://pnpnonk04.fanbox.cc/posts/2128306
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...so...are we safe?
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>>575145676
I have this image in Blade Game where she gets back to her office and immediately takes off her mask, cape, and cool persona, dropping it all on the floor as she collapses on the couch like a slob, whining and complaining about how overworked she is. Use it to introduce her exasperated secretary and tard-wrangler, one of the home base NPCs.

>>575146082
Not gonna leak it? I can respect that.
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>>575146216
Maybe, stop leaving bakes for the literal last few seconds so you don't end up tripping over yourselves with multiple threads. Bump limit, page 5, start baking and fucking tell the thread that you're doing so, simple, FUCK.
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>>575146640
That's probably a good idea. Maybe not page 5, but 7 or 8 would work.
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>>575138007
My bet is on nothing. Just zap Xiao and magically this fixes everything.
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Impregnate.
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>>575148186
That's a safe bet. The fact that they spent time reviewing her when they glossed over GV1 and GV3 does imply she might be important. This drops significantly if they give GV1 and GV3 the same attention in the next couple of streams, however. Why review the GV games out of order? No clue.
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>>575146640
sorry, but le thread culture says that bakes must be made on page 10, as per the same fuckin thing i tried to argue against ages ago. people are just now realizing it? thanks for finally coming around, i guess - only took you literal YEARS to come to the same conclusion i did. i wish my cohorts weren't so dumb.
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>>575149354
Or they're reviewing them in the order they show up on the TE trailer after they revealed the Xiao stuff, that's also a possibility.
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>>575135763
not until after the legends legacy collection which will be announced later this year
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>>575111754
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>>575150496
you voted, right?
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>>575149872
That could be, but they did say that GV2 was important for GX, and mentioned how this was GV2's decaversary.
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>>575150436
no it wont
DO is taking over MM in 2027 they wouldnt want to overshadow it
Have fun waiting for Legenda 40th anniversary
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>>575149354
Oh, they did? Neat. Any juicy details?
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>>575151170
Mega Man X Legacy Collection was announced alongside Mega Man 11.
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>>575151412
Not really. It was a quick summary of GV2's story, and then reading off character synopses and discussing them. They did give them GX/TE themed graphics for their names, but that's a whatever.
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>>575151848
Eden got a "that's so sad" and "poor thing" response from the hosts. This review only means something for GX if the GV2 cast were singled out. If they do a similar dive into the other games, then they're just reviewing TE.
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>>575150436
Realistically we won't have Legends news until 2028, IF it happens that is.
In the eventuality that a Legends collection were possible it would release in 2029.

Legends 3 though? not a chance
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>>575153170
legends 30th anniversary is next year, which is why they will announce it this year

I'm not saying it'll be a good collection by the way they might not even have motb
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>>575153170
Even then no FUCKING way Legends collection will release without censorship.
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There we go
All done
Its been a while since the last time I've done an all star run
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>>575153170
About that...
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>>575157708
but sir you played the wrong version

jk how was it also nice poem
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>>575154990
Didn't BN get away with just a splash screen disclaimer? Granted, naked lolis are a little different than rapping and chicken.
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Monaka Monakason
Dragon Ball Super Super Filler
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFd2HvWkvtQ
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>>575159781
Huge for Tronfags, who as we know are the most numerous waifufags the franchise has apparently.
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>>575126628
You know, one of the very early adept designs was basically Pandora.
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>>575159901
BN3 has its lows but I still really like its highs so it was overall pretty fun to me even if it took a while to do everything
Also love me ground style
>but sir you played the wrong version
I'll correct my sins by playing Bluemoon
Seriously though
I'll replay blue at a future point to round out everything in BNLC
For now I'll replay BN4 when I have free time again
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>>575162683
Looks terrible
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>>575162683
Reminds me of an iron maiden but also I think a medabot?
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>>575164186
>Infinity Boss
Pretty cool.
>that many mega man characters AND SF ones
Capcom must really like him, they cast him multiple times for the same game.
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>>575163169
voice actor for rush??
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>>575164567
Yeah rush talks in the ovas
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>>575164815
funnier if he just yiffs
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thread objective:
do not talk about dog sex
FAILED
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>>575165169
Someone commission more art of Kirin with swarthy non-septimal men.
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>>575165682
nobody mentioned kirin
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>>575165726
The point still stands.
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>>575165826
what point? you're just begging for interracial smut of a character in an entirely unrelated conversation.
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5 mins late for z2
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>>575166074
>half the general population that descended from furfags and have black in them
>not doing this all the time
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>>575166074
It did help stop the other topic.
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>>575167207
Yeah, the part that left to the fake general.
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>>575167294
yeah man i'm glad we stopped talking about a voice actor for a megaman and started talking about bestiality and interracial instead. thanks inti, super cool
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>>575165826
I'm so glad I'm not a Kirinfags so I don't have to pick between those two factions.
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>>575167207
what the fuck are you even talking about at this point?
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>>575167737
He's lost and thinks that he is in /sfg/.
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To celebrate the announcement of all the random Mega Man figures and comics, we're back with the 5th episode of The 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Rebirth (a.k. Saisei-Hen) melt.
Last time >we went into infinite debt again and fought some OG family drama.

https://parsec.gg/g/38gXmTiAVEvCVv85P6Krz86iKwm/wmclfadb/

Starting in XX:05

Expect bugs/crashes, numerous untranslated things, numerous incorrectly translated things, and a new wave of bugs from an entirely new hack.
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>>575167737
Anon closes his eyes and all he can see is Chel cosplaying as his waifu. This leads to much resentment.
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>>575167970
That rear end is what's carrying Udon isn't it?
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>>575167528
>he says in the fake general
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>>575167863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL0vXEAagHA
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Isn't it weird that the Chinese orphan is Christian?
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>>575170245
I wonder where she gets it, considering Tenjian doesn't believe in God and most of the G7 are barely religious.
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>>575170438
It came to her in a dream.
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>>575168117
>new set of X comics after first ones sold enough to run out of stock
Doubt
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>>575171368
this post will be ignored, and by the next thread the narrative will be that udon is sustained off of genie ass alone.
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my favorite armor is x3 armor
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>>575171635
Designwise or gameplaywise?
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>>575172008
design wise
gameplay-wise on paper it's great but in practice it is clunky as shit
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>>575151848
Lame!

>>575152107
That's good, at least.
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>>575165826
I love this picture. That arced eyebrow, the hand on her cocked hips, just look at that sass.
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>>575172094
A gundam enjoyer then.
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>>575172684
>Lame!
They did spend 25 minutes on them. Again, showcasing GV2's cast only implies something if they remain the only old characters that showcased. My guess is that they'll show off the GV1 and GV3 casts, however.
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>>575173123
can't deny that I'm a 90s kid
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I can't wait for the Joulefag tears where she never gets to see GV again, because the only way to ensure a happy future is if she remains dead. She will never get to be happy.

I can't wait for the Zondafag tears when Xiao is revealed to have done way worse in the name of the "greater good," but gets a redemption while she stays with Asimov as the only antagonist who doesn't see the light/get saved.

C'mon Tai and Tsuda, I know you want to top GV2 and give your fans and staff a hopeless and depressing sendoff. It's what the series deserves. iX is the series that has hopeful endings.
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>>575173707
GV is trapped in a time loop and the both Morb and Xiao are timelords. They'll do a fakeout ending like Majogami where GV kills Xiao and whoever is helping Xiao and gets the most bitter ending in the series, before giving you some postgame content to unlock the true final level and ending where you save everyone.
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I'm sure the finale will be disappointing.
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>>575175719
Mimi...
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What is it that makes almost every single fan game have terrible robot masters' designs?
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>>575178695
>I'm the TRAAASH man!
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>>575153507
You're getting a comic and that's it.
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Stick to your woman regardless of how much of a cyberpunk dystopia things become.
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Thanks all for joining the 5th episode of The 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Rebirth - "Code Geass R2 sure is a wild ride"
We freed the Chinese and I heckin love lulu shenanigans
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>>575182648
Those were the longest non-finale stages that we've played I think.
The good thing is that Shinkirou doesn't really need FUB so we can start spreading the upgrades. Although Wing's tune up was necessary because it'll carry over.
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>>575182648
can't wait for next week's roro hate
>>575182872
>The good thing is that Shinkirou doesn't really need FUB
>All of the unit's Ranged class weapons gain Damage +300; the unit gains Max EN +100.
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>>575183152
He's doing fine damage so far, any surviving unit can be fixed with a scale. Some of our other units might want upgrades instead because they are lagging behind in damage.
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>>575182587
Sir, that's more Akiba Maid Wars than Cyberpunk. Which makes it way more dangerous, ironically.
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Does Zonda remain popular because of her character and writing, or because she's cute? Aside from the playable characters, she and Joule are the two GV1/GV2 characters who continue to get art and discussion despite 10 years with no appearances.
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>>575183874
neither
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>>575182587
Respectable post, despite the slop.
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>>575182872
>Jibun uooooooh!

>>575183874
Both. Also pitybait.
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>>575183423
we've poured most of a FUB into him already, might as well go all the way once we don't need the funds for a dozen other things
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>>575183874
Like Joule, she left a massive impact/mental scar on the fandom unless they played 8-4, then she's one of the most memorably evil villains ever.
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>>575183874
Both and also because she's the one time that a female villian that's so unapologetically sultry gets killed instead of getting either the Stella Glow special or the Rance special.
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>>575184117
Sure but we're still missing a dozen other things that may or not show up soon
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If Adepts became real in like the next 10-15 years somehow and a magical fairy or something gave you the choice to become an Adept yourself, except your Septima is randomly chosen based on things you like, would you take the offer and hope for something really cool or choose to stay a non-Adept?

Also Cope will show up during your lifetime and will attempt to eradicate you on sight if you choose to be a filthy Adept. Good luck!
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>>575184313
What about Lola?
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>>575184835
Lola as mother wasn't sultry, she was MCfucking done with everything.
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>>575184658
>Anime girls become real
>Would (you) remove the part of your brain that would be able to enjoy that for a power straight out of a minor JOJO part 4 character
>Also you get this irrepresible desire to find a person (preferably wearing orange) who can kick your ass
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>>575184313
I think people confuse fake Zonda with true Zonda. True Zonda isn't sultry.
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>>575173707
>iX is the series that has hopeful endings.
you wouldn't believe what the title of the game is
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>>575141186
>Also Archie Mega Man canon is getting a one-shot that will be extended to an ongoing if sales are good
I think it'd be funny if the Archie comic dies again
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>>575183874
>10 years
wtf as a non-/inti/ anon I thought she was created like last year
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>>575191418
Feel the pain of the relentless march of time, old timer.
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>>575191696
Wrong picture. I guess it fits, though.
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>Mega Man thread that was two days old deleted for no reason
wow
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>>575193429
on /v/?
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>>575184658
I want adept gf, not to be an adept.
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>>575184658
Copen's crusade is stupid. He should just go home and have sex with his maid like an ordinary rich boy.
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Mine was actually next on her queue, hope that other anon gets his delivery next week.
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>>575197081
Sex with Joule.
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>>575193878
Sure was https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/743916650/
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art we sleepmelt
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>>575178695
I thought Unlimited's robot masters looked pretty good.
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>>575197081
It seems like that link leads to Xiao before GX.
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>>575193429
>>575193878
>>575198263
Probably had something to do with being a stealth AI nigger thread.
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>>575197081
>>575199637
Catbox has upload issues rn it seems, litter it is.
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>>575200796
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>>575200039
there are AI Gem threads 24/7 on /v/ though
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>AI
>Gem
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>>575201997
I'll pick both.
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>>575201876
You haven't been on /v/ in like half a year, clearly.
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First and Foremost, it was a Luna thread.
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>>575201997
AI Gem!
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>>575130198
It's pretty based that from conception, the one consistent element of her character is being an exhibitionist.
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Luna is too powerful for /v/.
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>>575111754
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>>575203221
They should give her a gun and have her be playable in iX3 just because it'd be really funny. Even funnier if Blade isn't playable again. I like Blade but it'd just be so funny.
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>>575200796
Anybody has a link to the Zonda comm from last week?
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>>575139636
Don't worry, after a couple of good beatings and getting her cervix pounded her attitude will turn from this to a nagging housewife.
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>>575205007
If you mean the one with Cyan it's up on booru, literally the most recent result.
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>>575204391
I think they should at least try and make Cope fun to play before they think about adding more playable characters to eclipse him.
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Buttgirl general?
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>>575193901
Funny isn't it, people here would be able and willing to put up with a lot of anime bullshit from another person because it's still less bullshit than dealing with a minos girlfriend but are not willing to be the anime bullshit themselves and make that everybody else's problem.
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>>575111754
Is inticreates incapable of making something new?
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>>575203583
Oh yeah, the doujin toy convention should be around these days. I wonder if the Pandoranon even finished one of the 3 Pandora kits he ordered.
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>>575205118
Unironically, Gibril is the perfect example of a female villian that would be entirely reformed after a good fucking...but she's gonna turn into a very high maintenance wife after that tho.
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>>575205829
Yes.
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>>575206384
>Oh no, I have to keep her butt sore and her womb regularly filled like a real man, woe is me
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>>575206147
They been making a lot of new games like Majogami.
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>>575205829
Yes. That's why Cougar is and by far the most posted artist here.
Shame Umbraclaw and Majogobonito made Cut Cats kinda pointless.
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>>575206147
No. They're incapable of making anything good.
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>>575207184
>made Cut Cats kinda pointless
That's not a shame at all
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>>575204391
If Blade becomes playable then she'll need her own muse, so who else would they use besides Kohaku?
>what the fuck, how?
Being temporarily taken over by the mother computer in iX2 leads her to developing a muse septima. That's my prediction on how it could go.
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>>575205781
They already did, yes, both iX games and the third one already looks like an improvement over iX2 (which was already good in the first place)
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>>575207843
She can have Roro.
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>>575206147
They've been making nothing but new stuff between 2024 and 2025, most of which didn't quite land so they're going back to what works. Change for the sake of change is not inherently good.
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>>575208223
>Change for the sake of change is not inherently good.
Capcucksisters they are making fun of our agenda for the last 20 years.
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>>575208106
Nope, she's for Copen ONLY. Kirin only got Lumen because Gunvolt was always by her side, and something tells me they won't have a tag system for Blade.
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>>575207978
iX2 has the worst combat I have ever had the displeasure of using in a 2d action game. Plain and shitty and lacking even the most basic elements to make the melee engaging and fun to use.
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>>575208438
She can have Roro. Copen should get muse Kohaku.
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>>575207843
Muses are not an inherent part of Gunvolt gameplay. They're just score meters that talk, you can easily replace them with something else.
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>>575209552
>score meters
An inherent part of a Gunvolt game.
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>>575205781
>I think they should at least try and make Cope fun to play
I think it's funny how youre so dedicated to this larp like anyone believes it
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>>575206175
still working on it
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>>575209552
Great, instead of having a Muse Blade will be blasting Love Live music through her headphones at 1000 Kudos. This is all your fault.
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>>575210923
>make Cope better
>stop the larp
Keep him shit then?
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>>575211646
>implying he's shit to begin with
Lol that's exactly what Im talking about. It's a really strange larp
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>>575210316
Exactly, you can have the score without the singing fairy blast Jpop. That's what happens when you equip the mute pendant, and they're disabled in certain modes too.
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>>575212320
The jpop is like half of the reason they even make these games.
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>>575212668
would it kill them to make the jpop good then
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>>575212668
My point is that you can easily justify why there's no fairy following you around in gameplay. It wasn't even a thing in GV1, Joule just sang for you in the background. >>575211508 has it pretty much right. The closest thing Blade had to a Muse was Butterfly Effect, which is gone now and that's actually important to iX3's plot.
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>>575211907
I don't know what's so larpy about it, I could just as well ask you to stop slurping. If they insist so badly on turning Cope into some frankensteined Zero, then at least make him fun to play. They have 30 years of experience with action games, it shouldn't be so hard.
EX weapons have never been utilized well and they are not a good substitute for the lack of an expressive moveset for a melee character. Give him some directional variance, give him some heavy attacks, let him have a parry, charge his attack, stuff like that. Give him a diverse toolkit of movement and combat options that aren't limited by Roro's shitty abilities. These are the things that forms the beating heart of a modern 2D action melee character.
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>>575213130
>limited by
Limited to*
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>>575213130
>EX weapons have never been utilized well and they are not a good substitute for the lack of an expressive moveset for a melee character.
Yeah, nah. The EX weapons are a part of cope's moveset just as much as crashbolt and dragonsphere are part of GV's moveset, and a main part of his gimmick. I get that you want to larp cope is bad for some reason, but this is fucking retarded. Try some other excuse.
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>>575212775
It is tho.
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>>575213130
>and they are not a good substitute for the lack of an expressive moveset for a melee character
Two things:
Cope's not a melee character. One look at GX should tell you that
EX weapons are a central part of cope's main kit and using them well is critical for scoring. It's not the game's fault you played like a retard and never switched off Hailstorm blade/Orbital edge/Cryo flash
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Yet another upcoming fan game that fell under the cracks:

Mega Man Heaven Fall
https://youtu.be/bU-QBN5_m24

there's even a demo out right now:
https://gamejolt.com/games/MMHFdemo0_3/1036040
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>>575214409
Bet he doesn't even know about Whirling Chopper cancels and Doomsday Charge's protective properties lmao. Like I said in the last thread retards refuse to learn how to properly play the game then shit their pants over their own incompetence and blame it, that's some DSP LEVEL SHIT RIGHT THERE.
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>>575213897
>>575214409
Get over yourselves, autists. The ""good"" EX weapons are situational at best while most are completely fucking useless in score runs. I would trade EVERYTHING about this dog system if it meant better combat depth, flow and combo variety for Cope himself. Something as simple as a dive kick should not be a fucking EX weapon.
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>>575215376
>The ""good"" EX weapons are situational at best while most are completely fucking useless in score runs
Uh huh. When was the last time you used Galvanic Patch, Septimal surge or Alchemical field as Gunvolt? Hell, when was the last time you used Voltaic chains outside of a boss finish?
> if it meant better combat depth, flow and combo variety for Cope himself
Again, not using ex weapons properly is very much a (you) issue and a skill issue.
I think you realize on some level that your ranting is more an indictment of Kirin than anything
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>there's an Alice sale on Steam
>Azure Striker Gunvolt 2 isn't listed in it
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>>575216139
Too subtle to qualify, there is an Inti sale on Steam though.
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>>575216084
>I think you realize on some level that your ranting is more an indictment of Kirin than anything
Kirin is a much more fluid and fun character to control, I don't think you'll find anyone who disagrees. The only problem with Kirin is that AC is so, so much better there's no reason to do anything else. But you know who'd also benefit from having the full extent of Kirin's melee kit? iX2 Cope.
It's really weird you're being so obstinate about not improving the character's gameplay, it's like you want Cope to stay shit.
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>>575216898
>Kirin is a much more fluid and fun character to control
Oh? Where's her directional variance? Her heavy attacks? Parry, charge attack, dive kick stuff like that? What's melee kit, anon?
>it's like you want Cope to stay shit.
But he isnt. It's just that you stubbornly refuse to use 80% of his kit for some reason that you're to embarrassed to explain. Im betting skill issue.
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>>575217370
>Where's her directional variance
She has a plunging drop, a rising upward cut, and a dashing sword slash that passes right through enemies. You know, some core pillars of a diverse moveset that makes Kirin more fun to control.
He's pretty shit and as I said earlier, EX weapons are not a good substitute for his own lack of personal abilities.
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>>575166074
Not really interracial, see >>575140492
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>>575218162
>as I said earlier, EX weapons are not a good substitute for his own lack of personal abilities.
And as I said earlier, your skill issue is not an argument. Cope can vault over enemies, dive with Anchor nexus and uppercut with Whirling chopper. Try actually playing with his toys instead of shitposting
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>>575219368
Voltman isn't half bad of a design
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>>575218162
>and as I said earlier, EX weapons are not a good substitute for his own lack of personal abilities.
Because?
I've been reading through your posts for a while now, and you still havent explained why they dont count.
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Calling him Cope is retarded and doesn't make you funny.
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>>575207843
>Kohaku with Muse Septima after being taken over by the mother computer
it'd be interesting to see her being able to use a Pix-based quasi-Septima after being taken over by what was basically the governor of the Pix power
having an organic human using Pix wouldn't even be that strange, considering Dystnine had a standard Septima despite being a fucking robot
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Some kino iX2 gameplay I saw on Twatter:

https://x.com/maru_maya/status/2081018125580120065

Don't get how you could say this doesn't look fun as fuck.
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>>575183874
I played GV and Ix because the Zondaposters were tlking stuff that seemed like schizo rambles so in a way it was for her.
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>>575219474
And as I said earlier, something as simple as a dive kick should not be confined to an EX weapon. Maybe Inti should read up on how popular action games handle movement and combat.
>>575219837
Locking a core movement ability / basic combo extending tool behind such a system instead of just making it an inherent part of the character's own toolkit is asinine. This is why he feels so janky compared to Kirin.
EX weapons can co-exist with Copen being able to do more on his own in regards to combat, but they're not a good substitute for Copen not being able to do ANYTHING on his own beyond huhaho.
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>>575221096
did you rike it?
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>>575221401
>instead of just making it an inherent part of the character's own toolkit is asinine.
It's asinine because ex weapons ARE an inherent part of his kit. It's right there in his description since GV2. You're required to use them to score. What the fuck are you huffing?
>but they're not a good substitute for Copen not being able to do ANYTHING on his own beyond huhaho.
>huhaho
Oh ok so it really is a skill issue. You can stop pretending Copen's huhaho matters, inti walked back on the overdrive shit.
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>>575221417
I still havent touched GV3 but it was fun.
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>>575221867
And EX weapons have never been utilized well and they are not a good substitute for the lack of an expressive moveset for a melee character.
I'm really not interested in playing "enable the schizo" with you anymore. You want Cope to stay shit, and that's fine. I hope they make Blade playable so I can get a cohesively designed character and stop using the tower of duct tape that is Cope.
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>>575222447
>for a melee character
>Copen
>melee character
KEK
I agree it's best you stop posting too, you've embarrassed yourself enough for one day.
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>>575222447
>and they are not a good substitute
Why? Or are you completely incapable of communicating properly or something? You've been asked to elaborate and you've failed to do so several times in this thread already. Holds strong opinions but can't back them up for shit and then antagonizes others for disagreeing. Real nigger behavior you're displaying here, dude.
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>>575223159
I've elaborated time and again, and all I get in return is
>no lol ur bad
But I'll be the one laughing when playable Blade completely steals Cope's thunder and he plays second fiddle in his own series to a much more fun character.
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>>575220337
Joke's on you, anon! I'm retarded AND funny!
>>575221782
Cope's soooooooo hot!
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>>575221431
Yeahhh but that's on her for trying to make a move on robo uncle Ruckus.
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>>575220560
That would actually fit her really well too, since she's a skilled mechanic. I didn't even consider that.
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>>575223760
The elaboration in question:
>it's bad because... because it just is OKAY!?!
Real enlightening arguments there, bud.
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>>575167970
Genie butts was taken down despite being not just being ontopic but also keeping the sales of the Udon series up.
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>>575224052
On the contrary. I'm saying Cope could be a much more fun character, that an expanded moveset like Kirin has is all it takes, that EX weapons are not a good substitute for the absence of such, and all I get in return is
>no ur bad and it's fine because... because it just is!
Which tells me you all just want Cope to remain shit. Glad we got that cleared up.
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>>575223760
>But I'll be the one laughing when playable Blade completely steals Cope's thunder and he plays second fiddle in his own series to a much more fun character.
Im laughing at you because Copen's doing exactly that to Gunvolt in GX what with his new ex weapons, better scoring and being able to fly basically forever with the new swap system. We're in for fun times
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I'll laugh when Inti drops the ball again and the Cope continues
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>>575225058
>needs an AC derivative just to keep up with GV's expanded movelist
See, I respect Tsuda. He can add onto GV without tearing apart the character first and making some anti-gestalt amalgamation that is somehow less than the sum of its parts.
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>>575225021
>On the contrary. I'm saying that EX weapons are not a good substitute for the absence of such
You still havent said why. And you admit it, too. You havent said why ex weapons dont count as an expanded moveset, only that they just...dont count because you say so.
It's great when retards btfo themselves while trying to act smug
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>>575225573
>needs an AC derivative
>t. retard that has never played GV2 or iX1
It really is that easy lmao
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>>575225573
Yeah, putting Tai in the cuck corner and giving Copen his kit back is the best thing Inti has done so far. Now he can go back to flying circles around Gunvolt like he did in GV2
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>>575226063
As he stands he literally is too slow at killing groups of enemies to deal with GV3 enemy density in any timely manner, so you're going to need GV unless you plan to skip enemies or get shit ranks.
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>>575226227
Do you even watch the streams? Copen has better crowd control than GV does. Apollo's EX weapon shredded groups of fodder enemies.
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>>575226227
>As he stands he literally is too slow at killing groups of enemies to deal with GV3 enemy density in any timely manner
You dont even know how wrong you are, anon. You can stay on him forever and oneshot everything for hundreds of kudos with his ex weapons
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>>575225608
>You havent said why ex weapons dont count as an expanded moveset
I'm saying they're not a good substitute, and they aren't.
Blade-sama save me from Cope's bad gameplay.
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>>575225549
Roro is in the game so they most certainly didn't drop the ball.
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>>575225573
Funny that the only reason Fagvolt's been changed to pretty much a worse version of the mutt slut's gameplay is the great Acura-kun being so much better than him. GV4 will be giving Volt a blade, given how the yellow one is better than him and that just isn't allowed, nobody can be stronger than the Azure Dragon!
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>>575227191
GV's gameplay is closer to ZED than Kirin.
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>>575226906
>>575227083
Seems you anons missed the part where just as always EX weapon damage gives no kudos and non tagged kills give aerial bonus instead of aerial EX which means half bonus, hence why I said
>shit rank
Unless the new thresholds are shitter level I suppose.
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>>575227509
Anons here don't actually play the games.
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>>575183874
Figures that a Rollfag would also be a Zondafag and Lunafag. The overlap is real.
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>>575227136
>Roro is in the game
She drops the ball all the time so what you want is a game to do good in spite of RoRo.
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>>575183874
>>575227709
>Does Zonda remain popular
>look up the art
>100 likes
Lol.
Credit where it's due, she's more popular than Copen.
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>>575227509
>>shit rank
He's still getting 100 kudos per tagged aerial kill which still easily leaves GV in the dust. Oh and both of them have separate kudos counters, wonder why you omitted that
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>>575227835
She is less popular than Joule but still more popular than most of the cast.
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>>575227509
90% of the gameplay was EX weapon spam, and he still gets thousands of kudos in the streams even when taking regular hits and swapping with GV.
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>>575227709
It's the blonde brat curse. Tears will keep flowing I wo...
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>>575227951
The slut orb got 3 times as many likes so I'm not sure 'popular' is the right word. I think she has a small but devoted fanbase, and she does also get more art than Copen which is all kinds of fucking hillarious all things considered.
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>>575227427
Somehow that damn bird manages to be cooler than him too. Its alright, though, GV4 Gunvolt will be stealing his whole flow. Only to still be worse next to the golden receiver, if they don't hide her away from starring with him again like they did the tiger initially, that is.
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>>575227112
>I'm saying they're not a good substitute, and they aren't because I say so.
Expecting actual arguments from an obvious shitposter was my mistake
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>>575223839
I like how she has pretty much the same talent as Cope, being able to reverse engineer a system just by looking at it
must have something to do with high stage of the Lifewave, 6th or so
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>>575228508
I know when they were polling character popularity back during Striker's release, she was in second place. It was her and Lola at the top, a huge gap, then everyone else, and that's with barely any of the westerners on Twitter voting for her. But casual fans only show up during new releases. The hardcore fans gravitate towards Joule more.
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>>575228556
You've received arguments, you dismissed them because... You just want Cope to remain shit I suppose. I don't really know how you could argue against a character being made objectively better, but here we are.
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>>575228535
ZED can spam Caliburs as part of his normal attack chain. Can GV do the same?
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>>575227836
If GV's using his old scaling which seems to be the case 5 kill chains and up outscores Copen even when playing 100% optimally. The separate kudos counters is interesting because it might mean they intend you to balance between the two somehow (using Copen for long sections without that many enemies and swap to GV for large groups), don't remember if you can store the Copen chain on swap it would depend on that.
>>575228214
The number does not matter until we know the score thresholds for max rank. I know the pretty number is distracting but come on easy high kudos counts is standard GV3 shit unless you're playing with Primal Dragon GV who has reduced kudos gain.
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>>575228959
During the TE twitter character posts she received less likes than Moniqa, or maybe it was Desna. One or the other.
Anyway, a poll made 10 years ago is not indicative of current conditions.
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>>575228508
Lola has also starred in recent games. Barely anybody still draws her GV2 version.
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>>575229218
I don't remember any TE polls. There certainly wasn't any TE fanart. If there was a poll, it was probably stacked with GV3 characters and Copen/Lola because of recency bias.
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>>575229514
No poll. Just twitter posts introducing the characters.
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>>575229514
>There certainly wasn't any TE fanart.
Meant to say TE official art. I was looking at >>575229294, so mistyped.
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>>575229000
Ok anon. Keep screeching Copen is a melee character and ex weapons shouldnt be used. Nobody looking at GX will believe you, but ok
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>>575229620
It's likely that tweets closer to release would get more attention. It's not the same as a poll.
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>>575229620
Jap or Eng tweets, because you should know that Zonda is the most hated character by a wide margin over in the West due to 8-4 making her such a slimy bastard. Even Asimov/Demerzel was more likable than she was.
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things happening on twitter should not be relevant to the thread, as anons from this very general have been banned from that site, and they are incapable of making their voices known.
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>>575225021
>that EX weapons are not a good substitute
You're looping.
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>>575229294
It's also a bit of an unfair comparison since Roro is Marketing Girl with all that entails, but still, I wouldn't quite call Zonda 'popular'
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>>575230050
If guys like Crossfire are still active, what the fuck did the anons here do? Send dickpicks to others?
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>>575230153
Popularity is relative. Compared to Elise, Gibril, and Desna, she's still getting a drip of art, and that's impressive for a character we haven't seen for nearly 10 years.
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>>575229135
>5 kill chains and up outscores Copen even when playing 100% optimally.
How so?
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>>575230356
Which is why I said she has a small, but devoted fanbase. I mean, we're pretty much at the point where no character gets any art unless someone shekels out for it. And they're still willing to commission art for her.
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>>575225021
>It just is!
That's all you've ever said in this argument. What are you talking about.
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>>575230180
It was a dark and stormy night...
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Trying to imagine a guy that's really mad at X2 movement because using Speed Burner doesn't count
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iX2 is too skilled based for the prevasion abusing storycucks, leave him alone, guys, no need to rape him any harder...
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>>575230591
Electric (or Amazing if you're a weeb) bonus is 550 for 5 enemies and it scales up from there, used to cap at 900 for 8 in GV1 and 2 but since we don't have videos of insane chains like what you can do in Apollo stage just yet it's still up in the air whether the difference keeps growing indefinitely to whatever you actually manage to get.
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>>575230153
>erotic, attention grabbing image
>dipshit retarded opinion ("I wouldn't quite call zonda popular")
cut this out
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>>575225021
>EX Weapons le bad
>in the Mega Man general
dafuck
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>>575231625
This is the inti general thobeit?
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>>575183874
She's also getting a boost because she looks and acts like Luluka.
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>>575231990
>retard can't read
>or play vidya properly
checks out, honestly
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>>575231625
Yep.
The weapon copying ability works for classic and X, but the entire system falls apart when you start basing the game around scoring and punishing the player for using them. We should rather have physical techniques like Zero then instead of 8 bad borderline useless abilities, which would increase the risks but also ups the rewards.
>nnnnoooooooooooo I don't want better gameplay I just want to rock whatever finisher is easier to land and has the least chance of hitting enemies I don't want!!!
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>>575232057
A boost of 1 picture isn't much
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>>575232358
They're all good though? If we're complaining about usage overlap and not being good they literally already fixed that last game. And then that's not an actual argument about them conceptually being bad, that's an argument derived from like Ferrous Fangs sucking. Which is correct but irrelevant.
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>>575232085
>gets mad at being called out
checks out, honestly
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Perhaps the win-win solution is to have Cope's EX Weapons be melee attacks when untagged and projectiles when tagged. Of course there can also be a few hybrids like Whirling Chopper, which is still a melee but also a projectile when tagged. Also Anchor Nexus, everyone loves Anchor Nexus! Now all of you stop fighting and just be happy and excited for iX3!
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>>575232358
>>nnnnoooooooooooo I don't want better gameplay I just want to rock whatever finisher is easier to land and has the least chance of hitting enemies I don't want!!!
This argument would make a modicum of sense if you didnt have hotkeys to switch them on the fly. You probably didnt even know you could do that, did you?
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>>575232609
They've always been bad. The effective way of playing GV2 is either only using Hailstorm Blade or just treating everything as if it were Hailstorm blade. iX they were all duds, and in iX2 Rolling Ripper is so overwhelmingly dominant the rest of the weapon arsenal feel entirely pointless. Besides whirling chopper, but its best use case is also only cancelling the """quick"""razor.
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>>575232986
It's just one very autistic larper samefagging, anon. You've seen this before in earlier threads, copen's flying makes his brain melt for some reason. Just ignore him
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Well I wasn't expecting both deliveries within less than 24 hours but here we are.
https://litter.catbox.moe/cnmb7727l9z7eh7p.png
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Why is he dressed like this?
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>>575233308
This guy >>575214409 figured you out perfectly. The retard calling ex weapons bad never actually bothered to learn how to use them, fucking lol
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>>575233308
Nah, this doesn't actually work for iX2. I agree on the other ones though. Rolling Ripper is the best one from the perspective of just landing the last hit on enemies when flying and shit but the rest of them actually provide pretty good utility. Chopper lets you go straight up which is good movement on top of all the stuff it's known for since iX2 actually starts asking you to go straight up, Cryo Flash is Cryo Flash and doesn't really need elaboration, Doomsday Charge can be used to get through barriers in a couple stages very quickly and it gets double kudos on the flower enemies so you have to use it anyway, and Gatling Blitz is just a god tier speedrunning utility since it deletes anything in front of you. Least useful is probably Optic Barrier and it still has the use case of blocking some shots.
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>>575233668
Because he's a bitchboy. Next question.
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>>575233668
Because he's hot!
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>>575197081
>>575233659
>>575200796
>Cat
Isn't that supposed to be Copen and Pantera's thing?
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>>575233986
also we're acting like Kirin is loaded with useful utility when scoring when the most she actually she does do is the upslash as an air stall. Which Copen has anyway.
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>>575234239
Cyan's allowed to be a cute kitty too
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>>575234239
She did it first in that GV1 base conversation. Also the original Halloween wallpaper.
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>>575234942
Forgot about that. I guess this was back when Copen was just a knight in shining armor and not the White Tiger.
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>>575233668
It's his punishment for going up against Eden and jobbing to them. Now he has to be their cute cheerleader while they livestream the entire thing.
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>>575235094
The knight in shining armor motif worked extremely well for the fairytail theme of GV2. GV, meanwhile, doesn't have any fairytail theme whatsoever. Just goes to show you that Copen was the intended protagonist.
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>>575232845
Says /mmg/ in the OP, not sure who you're trying to fool here, sista.
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>>575235383
might as well be /inti/ + /srwg/ at this point
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>>575235337
Considering the dragon stuff, you could say he's Beast, as in the one from Beauty and the Beast
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>>575234597
Doesn't need a charge tag, already has dramatically better air stalling options baseline and in his weapons, wouldn't use Issen but if Arc Anchor Nexus comes back (it shouldn't, it's super broken) it would be better than that. He'd probably get better use out of the spin slash than she would though. Bring back the stomp pls I miss him.
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>>575235337
It's ironic since the knight slays the princesses.
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>>575236028
those are witches. Beasts even
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>>575235925
iX3 uses bullits so he's definitely getting the reload crush
On that note, why are they super stingy about revealing stuff from iX3 this time? The game is coming out next year and yet the official website is so barebones
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>>575236028
Zonda would be more like the wicked witch or fairy (like Maleficent) while Mytyl and Joule are the princesses.
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Zonda (Angelina Jolie)
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>>575236341
The game is just starting development and is basically at the same stage as iX1 was when initially revealed, calm down anon wait until after GX releases a 2027 release date could very well mean it's 12 months away.
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>>575236356
>>575236308
No, Zonda is Alice and the White/Red/Hearts Queens (card+chess motifs), Desna is Rapunzel, and Gibril is both Red Riding Hood and the Wolf.

Something ironic and (likely unintentionally) brilliant in the case of Zonda is that Snowdrop (her white kitten) was sleeping next to her when she woke up. Alice believed that Snowdrop and the other kittens were all contextualized in the dream as the Queens.
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>>575236341
GX promo cycle so they probably don't want to step on it's toes, I also suspect they're looking for feedback since they gave Copen a bunch of changes between all his recent playable versions. I say that but I still have NO IDEA what they did to Darkness Trigger yet since no one talked about it
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but who is gaston?
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>>575236879
No. Adepts are cockroaches.
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>>575237097
Gaston was a Disney OC. He was never in the original fairytale.
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>>575235604
But it isn't, so sucks to be you, retard-kun.
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>>575237270
woosh
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>>575236341
>iX3 uses bullits so he's definitely getting the reload crush
You reload instantly when landing like in iX2, so that confirms absolutely nothing about reload crush.

>On that note, why are they super stingy about revealing stuff from iX3 this time?
GX is coming sooner so it takes priority, also it's been only two months since the teaser, calm down. We'll probably get the first full trailer in September at Tokyo Game Show. Be glad they're not rushing it out the door like they did with iX2, one full trailer out of nowhere and release in less than half a year.
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>>575237480
bakto fuuza
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>>575237094
>I say that but I still have NO IDEA what they did to Darkness Trigger yet since no one talked about it
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>>575237889
He's talking about DT in iX3
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>>575234942
Reminds me of Sakura's halloween alt. Catgirl is just a very effective costme.
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>>575235337
Also fits a lot better with the ending and massacre at Belladen. It feels a bit out of character for GV to commit SUCH a heinous act just because Xiao yaps in his ear, but it fits entirely into Copen's playbook, with his convictions and extreme faith to block out all the horrors he's going to commit. To slaughter everyone in a fit of blazing fury and being very thorough regardless of his victim's ages, after all, they're all demons anyway. Only to then learn that his sister is one too, and the realization that he's the very monster he thought he fought against. Knowing that this entire crusade changed him to the core and also turning away from his family since he knows he's not a good addition to them anymore either. The battlefield is now all he has, in many ways you could say Copen Kamizono died that day in Belladen as well. Thanks Nori! Shinobu was eternally right when it came to demons.

It's a shame this development now befalls iX. That GX isn't GV and Mainline Copen on their shared path to redemption, but alas, makers of bad plots.
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>>575237889
I noticed the hard checkpoint not giving health thing but I forgot that it didn't do that in base. Kinda beast mode for giving Hard a small difficulty buff that's my devs. Both changes being increased gun damage is interesting though, since it looked iX3 had a weak shot and a strong melee. I was expecting some kind of EX weapon buff for DT instead
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>>575238497
Was it even confirmed to be in iX3?
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>>575239339
To my knowledge, no. Then again, as the others pointed out all the focus in on GX so we dont know ANYTHING about iX3
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>>575237097
No body fucks adepts up like Gaston
Knocks them up like Gaston
Rocks em and Pumps em and dumps em like Gaston!
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>>575239982
Yeah the trailer was pretty much just "see? melee on the air isn't dogshit now and it's fast! Oh and Bureido is back, you like Bureido right?"
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>>575240393
Blade's new hairstyle is PURE SEX omg
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>>575238558
Xiao fed him a lot of BS about Eden that's not backed up in the game or side material. Xiao's account is that China was a peaceful country until Eden invaded. Eden then committed atrocities against the Chinese nonadept population and forced adepts to either join them or die. This is one of the reasons GV keeps saying that Eden's purported motivations are fake and they want to enslave all adepts when we know they genuinely believe what they spew. He also said they battled QUILL, when Eden praises QUILL in the game. Combined with what they did to Japan and Joule, GV has a worse perception of them than Sumeragi.
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>>575238558
GX will reveal that Xiao had done Copen a bit of a "favor" and yeeted him to another world a few months after GV2, with altered memories for future saving research purposes. Of course, Xiao killed that world's original Copen first. And so Copen becomes iX. After succesful research and an isekai adventure Xiao yeets Copen to the time prison with GV praying they'll kill each other or something. Well that doesn't happen so Xiao later reveals to Copen all the shit he did, flashing memories back into his brain, the only part of him left human, yet truly belonging to a monster. Copen remembers all the Adept children he had killed, and that hits him like a truck, and that's also right before Xiao reveals that he got inspired by the iX world, showing off his very own Butterfly Effect he wishes to use, that being of course mainline Mytyl. Now Copen has to kill her again. Even Gunvolt gets to enjoy killing Joule, as Mytyl and Joule had become one. But Copen will be fine. He'll end up forgetting most of GX ever even happened when the plot is wrapped up. He may have nightmares he can't fully understand once he gets back home though.

The stars revealed such to me.
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>>575238558
Couldn't have said it better myself. GV being the canon path makes me like him a lot less, whereas with Copen, it doesn't feel like a betrayal of who he is. All Xiao had to do was remind him about Joule, then he goes right back to no mercy mode. It doesn't really affect him all that much afterward like it did with Copen. His only regret was not saving Joule. He felt schadenfreude when he killed Zonda, then promptly forgot about her because she doesn't deserve to be remembered, and then had the nerve to turn around and tell Copen that revenge is bad. Both times he carried out his vengeance, he felt pretty good about it, actually.
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>>575240817
That's really dumb
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>>575241123
He felt some regret in GV3 for slaughtering the soldiers and ending the dream of an adept homeland, but none about killing the G7 or Zonda (the characters the audience would feel bad about, especially Zonda), but Kirin reassured him that he was in the right and he shouldn't feel guilty about what he did.
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>>575241123
Personally, I just assumed they made the game for Copen as a teen because they gave Copen the cool stage gimmicks like the Bike segment and Gran Torta while they backloaded Gunvolt's unique things into Garden 3 which is probably the last thing they made. It making more logical sense in terms of plot progression and narrative consistency was just a bonus
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>>575240790
It's also why he believed Eden's problems were self-made or made up. Copen at least acknowledges adepts are mistreated, even if he thinks it's based and redpilled.
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>>575240817
>The stars revealed such to me.
>can't read shit
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>>575241560
They did originally make the game for Copen. Tsuda got butthurt that GV was an antagonist and pushed for him to be playable mid-development, which caused all sorts of issues for the team.
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>>575242270
I believe it. I remember thinking iX was going to be after 2's Copen ending pre-release because it just felt like it made sense.
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>>575241123
>>575238558
X and Zero were more affected by the Repliforce Wars and Resistance Wars than GV or Copen were with Eden or Belladen.
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>>575240817
peak schizopost
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Conveniently placed Battle Pot
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>>575248383
Where's the weed? There's only two whores in the way.
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>series is called azure striker gunvolt
>they have no faith in gunvolt's ability to headline a game after the first one
about to get galgun
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>>575248692
You don't see it? It's right there! Don't tell me you missed the Bonus Emblem too?
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>Two Japanese having a convo:

ガンヴォルトは間違いなく人生のターニングポイントになるようなゲームだったがイクス2は肯定していない。むしろあんまおもんなかったからこそ自分だけのイクスを作ろうみたいな気でゲーム制作を始めた…と考えれば割とポジティブな意識か

ガンヴォルトは「爪」で終わった物語なのでその後のことは全部蛇足でしかないという激強火厄介ファン思考になる。実際…やってみてどうよ?って感じ。急に出てきたメビウス、異世界に行くアキュラ、なんもかんもが「求めていたガンヴォルト像」から違う。ただイクス1は外伝としては非常に良かった

鎖環の暴龍の設定もあんま好きじゃなくて、伏線としてなんもなかったやんかそんなの。自由にガンヴォルトを使いたかった。犬の姿自体かなり解釈違いではあった。そしてジエドとかいうTheインティな悪癖の味がするよくわからんやつ。ガンヴォルトとして、また物語として見たいもんなんもなかった

>Response to above:

確か鎖環本編でも言及されてたけど、神園博士って暴龍の存在を予見してたんだよなぁ……
正直ガンダムのクルスト·モーゼスみたいな妄想家だと思ってたのに本当に能力者が姿含めて人間離れして『バケモノ』呼ばわりが宜なるかな、ってなっちゃったのは何かちょっと悔しい。

Eerily similar to the sort of arguments we have on here.
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>>575248898
Do it. GalGun is probably where Inti peaked.
Odd since it's not a 2d action game.
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>>575249367

>*Gunvolt* was undoubtedly a game that marked a turning point in my life, but I can't say I approve of *iX 2*. In fact, it was precisely because I found it so underwhelming that I started thinking, "I should just make my own *iX* game"—so, looking at it that way, maybe my mindset was actually somewhat positive.

>I hold the kind of intense, "problematic fan" opinion that the *Gunvolt* story effectively ended with *Striker Pack* (specifically *Azure Striker Gunvolt 2*), making everything that followed feel like superfluous baggage. Honestly... playing it just left me thinking, "Is this it?" You had Moebius suddenly appearing out of nowhere, Copen traveling to another world—everything about it diverged from the vision of *Gunvolt* I was looking for. That said, the first *iX* game was excellent as a spin-off.

>I also didn't care for the lore regarding the "Raging Dragon of the Chain" (Sakkan no Bōryū); there was absolutely no foreshadowing for that sort of thing. I just wanted to play as Gunvolt freely. The dog form itself was a major departure from how I interpreted the character. And then there was that guy named Zed—a character who reeked of Inti Creates' worst habits. There was simply nothing there that I wanted to see in terms of the *Gunvolt* experience or the story.

Response:

>I recall it being mentioned in the main *Luminous Avenger iX* game, but Dr. Kamizono actually foresaw the existence of the Rampaging Dragon...
Honestly, I used to think he was just a delusional crank—like Kurust Moses from *Gundam*—but seeing how the "Adepts" truly transcend humanity (even physically) to the point where calling them "monsters" feels entirely justified... well, it’s a bit frustrating to admit I was wrong.
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>>575249246
There's nothing there you lying sack of shit.
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>>575248898
It's named about Project Gunvolt. Juan is just one of many protagonists.
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>>575249519
Railshooters are 2d
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>>575198321
Today is a good day to die.
See you next week.
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>>575240725
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>>575249568
Oddly gratifying to see. Zed's fine, though, don't agree with that one bit.
>but seeing how the "Adepts" truly transcend humanity (even physically) to the point where calling them "monsters" feels entirely justified
Or that.
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>>575240393
>Oh and Bureido is back, you like Bureido right?"
Yes, but if you don't make her playable even now I'm going to fucking kill you. That's a tease too far.

>>575251691
Getting lady-knight vibes from that coat.
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>>575250815
>"This kid...is UNREAL! Whoa, what a cool dude!"
>pic related as cool dude music plays
Best part of the whole show. It peaks early.
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>>575249949
Maaaaybe if you look juuuuuuust a bit closer you'll see something nice!
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>>575249568
Even the jap slurpmaxers are getting fed up.
>I can't say I approve of *iX 2*
>it was precisely because I found it so underwhelming that I started thinking, "I should just make my own *iX* game"
And turning into western Megaman fans.
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>>575252557
I don't speak retard, can anyone translate this post?
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>>575249949
You have to look under the ball
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>>575252772
it's the official language of this general, how could you not?
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Can lotton do machine parts or should I get someone else to do Vespa
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>>575253040
>roastie mad her memes didn't get traction here while Gunvolt showers rule the land
You have a dying general to bump Sally.
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>>575252772
Would you like it translated into beans instead?
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>>575253308
>unprompted seething about ???
a native draws near
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>>575252392
There's no fucking weed there so it's garbage.
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>>575253372
>still mad butts and Roll rule the land
>malding over brats that needing correction so hard they're forbidden in the other general
Stay mad.
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>>575253568
it's funny i can just put out low effort posts egging you on and you can spin crazy fanfiction out of the ether. keep going, i want to see how this story evolves.
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>>575253568
another chapter in the epic battle between rollfags and the voices in their head is now underway! who will the winds of destiny favor this time?
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>>575253723
I don't need to write anything, just trigger you out sex Roomba pics.
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>>575253774
look out, we might be samefags
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>El Yanga going crazy and posting about other generals
Classic
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All me
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>>575252180
>starts as the leader of the Minos before she is captured, brainwashed, and forcefully implanted with Gunvolt's electrical Septima by Sumeragi
>following her liberation, her path toward reforming Sumeragi and making amends provides a strong foundation for a personal character-driven story
>represents a direct bridge between the oppressed humans and the ruling adepts
Can't we just boot Cope from the protag role and have Blade instead? She's a much more interesting character and actually has some emotional stakes in the world.
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>>575253927
uh oh, the tribal is showing signs of hostility, and has begun to degrade into IESLB
>just trigger you out sex roomba pics
saarmaxxing
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If you guys needed more Roll pics you only had to ask.
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>>575254107
Right, as if we need stories about gay shit like diplomacy and politics, that would work great for a score attack 2D action platformer.
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>>575253427
I see... I just really thought you'd love 51707 more than that plant... Gomenasai, Weedanon-kun...
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>>575254618
Right, I forgot. We can't have the conflicts between humans and adepts be a central thing anymore because that would get in the way of the dragons... and timelines... all the things Azure Striker Gunvolt fans are so thrilled about.
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>>575254334
Which protagonist does Zonda think is the most attractive?
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>>575223829
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>>575254998
Copen, because he'd trigger both her oni-san and daddy issues.
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>>575254107
See, this guy fucking gets it. It would be such a perfect ending to Gunvolt as a whole to have a character who's been on both sides of the race war dedicate herself to stopping it completely.
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>>575255187
This is one of the many reasons why evil women are wonderful.
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>>575230050
>things happening on twitter should not be relevant
>Disregard that's where all the official announcements come from
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>>575254107
immediate problem is a personal character-driven story doesn't actually work in the genre and that's she's trying to maintain a status quo that she isn't actually responsible for. if we ignored the fact that we're fighting gay nigga copens from another dimension and say we were just still hypothetically fighting adept supremacist or a minos person or whatever the stakes are still copen's as he's the one that spent a century making shit happen. the ideas being tested are copen's. the guns being volted are copen's. unlike gv she didn't really have agency
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>>575255187
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>>575255552
The struggle between the sexes
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>>575254976
Humans are damn near extinct in iX. What's left to explore there exactly?
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>>575255442
That would be so perfect. Unfortunately, she dies off screen before we ever get playable Blade in anything. Luckily for you, you can finally live out your dreams of playing as an Azure Striker in iX3 in the Luminous Avenger iX 1+2+3 Apex Collection (coming 2030) exclusive mode Connect G, though.
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>>575255905
Cope should've died at the end of iX 1. His foe is dead, he put an end to his sister's torment, he ended the conflict and has nothing to drive him anymore. His story has concluded, Cope's predictable personality has run dry, so shifting the perspective to Blade would provide a fresher, more compelling anti-hero arc. And the longer we keep this dinosaur around the longer the narrative feels directionless.

Since they didn't kill Cope they should instead move him into a background support position to guide our brand new main character, Blade. This is her world now, her responsibility, her fight.
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>>575256745
we're at a point where the narrative saturation of copen's world-view has overtaken the story to such a degree we're getting in "fish can't tell their in water" territory but no this is still his fight and his world with the conflict being around his beliefs.
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>>575256745
I want to see Blade fighting a vengeful, hate-filled iX Zonda. What little personality we get from her pre-brainwashing is that she was a protective big sister to her fellow minos orphans, so an orphan from the opposite side but created by the very same conflict would make for an excellent tragic antagonist. She could look at her and see her for exactly what she is, because she's seen all this before and experienced this same pain. It's perfect.
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>>575258321
Forgot my pic. Also for >>575254107 and >>575256501, I guess.
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>>575257357
Says a lot the best they can come with for a story direction is just reheating Copen's nachos.
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>>575257357
>where the narrative saturation of copen's world-view has overtaken the story
No, this is called "being stuck in purgatory" because the writers, or Tai, has no fucking idea how to resolve the original conflict nor does he have any idea where to even take the character in a spinoff series that very clearly wasn't meant to have sequels. That's why we get bangers such as
>what if Cope from another timeline vs Cope's creations in another timeline?
and
>what if Cope from another timeline had amnesia in another timeline
and
>what if Cope from another timeline vs The Council of Copes from another timeline
It's honestly tragic to see him being run through this mill. And all I wanted was just to see mainline get a soft redemption and return to happy doki family with Mytes and Nori.
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>>575249568
>seeing how the "Adepts" truly transcend humanity (even physically) to the point where calling them "monsters" feels entirely justified... well, it’s a bit frustrating to admit I was wrong.
So they saw that not only is peace with adepts is possible as shown by God to Nike, but that even with Asimov in charge adepts were far less cruel to minos than minos ever were to adepts, and that trying to stop adepts resulted in the fucking planet dying, and still went "Yeah no, Acura and Dr K was right we should kill all adepts".
Nevermind that you can't stop the adept demographic change.
I dunno man, I feel like peace and love with anime girls is just a better way of dealing with this but I'm a third worlder.
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>>575258753
That girl drove Cope out of his celibacy.
What's she got that RoRo don't?
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>>575251964
ZED might be "fine" but he's also superfluous. He reveals nothing about the Gunvolt setting nor has anything to say about the war between adepts and non-adepts, which was all relegated to side materials. He's just Inti's twist on the modern Chad McHarem anime MC, and while that's definitely something new to the series, it doesn't necessarily mesh with the established tone. The best you can say about him is that he's inoffensive, but that's not really a compliment.
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>>575258753
>has no fucking idea how to resolve the original conflict
So? It's not like you really need to resolve it, just end it on a hopeful note. Anime does that all the time.
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>>575258753
>to resolve the original conflict
the core of every conflict past the first couple stages of gunvolt 1 is just copen's beliefs even when he's not there. he's the narrative and inti knows that, which is why he's the actual protagonist for 80% of the series. the best pitch i've seen here for something blade can do is address the conflict core to his character again but with a sword cause i like playing kirin and i don't like looking at him. that's literally it
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The adept/minos "comflict" is entirely aelf-inflicted and it can only end when people realize it doesn't exist.
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>>575259292
By "fine" I meant "good." I like Zed, he's cool and I like his vague GV paralells. He's not utilized very well, but that's true of basically everything in 3.
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>>575259345
>the core of every conflict past the first couple stages of gunvolt 1 is just copen's beliefs even when he's not there. he's the narrative and inti knows that, which is why he's the actual protagonist for 80% of the series.
That's nonsense.

>>575259528
Here, here!
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>>575259263
She can repair a science-fantasy space tank and doesn't write bad songs.
Also brews a very good cup of cawfee (Cope's favorite).
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>>575254107
>GV's true successor, who could pass for a genderflipped version of him
>In a way you could say she's his "granddaughter"
Is Blade the Rey of the franchise?
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>>575260181
No, not even a little.
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>>575260181
Blade is actually a good person so no.
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>>575259263
She's blonde
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>>575259702
everything in 1 after sinner's row is just building off the conflict that copen introduces, 2 is basically an attempt to handcraft a squad of bad guys for copen to beat up so he can look good in arguments, 3 exists to further validate his beliefs stated in 1 and 2 both on a personal level by showing that even on a small scale something like gv and quinn can't last but also on a societal level via dragon herpes and birth rates with no real solution even in the good ending, gunvolt takes time out of his day to glaze copen the minute he gets out of glaive jail and continues doing so in GX, iX is him fighting through the genocide until his last breath and winning because of the bonds he's made along the way, iX2 is about his ball which doesn't have too much to do with this but it's still about him and his ball so it's still about him. in iX3 it sounds like we're going to be fighting more copen's which is again about copen. so you have maybe like 50% of 1 where copen isn't very important because they haven't introduced him yet
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>>575260528
>2 is basically an attempt to handcraft a squad of bad guys for copen to beat up so he can look good in arguments
Did we play the same game? Because the Russian girl was 100% correct about everything. Acura in this case lost everything and became a lonely miserable bitter man consumed by his self-destructive obsession.
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>>575260763
doesn't mean he was wrong though, just means he's gotta lock in and thug it out anyway
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>>575260528
>everything in 1 after sinner's row is just building off the conflict that copen introduces
The adept-minos conflict was introduced at the start, Cope just provides a human perspective.
>2 is basically an attempt to handcraft a squad of bad guys for copen to beat up so he can look good in arguments
No it isn't, Eden is portrayed as tragic. I can smell the 8-4 on you, take a shower.
>3 exists to further validate his beliefs stated in 1 and 2 both on a personal level by showing that even on a small scale something like gv and quinn can't last but also on a societal level via dragon herpes and birth rates with no real solution even in the good ending
3 barely mentions the adept-minos conflict at all. Don't even bring up how there's no minos left, that's just a fan theory.
>gunvolt takes time out of his day to glaze copen the minute he gets out of glaive jail
He mentions him exactly once and only in passing.
>and continues doing so in GX
It's not even out yet you dork.
>iX is him fighting through the genocide until his last breath and winning because of the bonds he's made along the way
iX in it's entirety is a refutation of his "adept bad" beliefs. Everything is Asimov's fault and adepts need to be mind controlled to not care about minos.
>iX2 is about his ball which doesn't have too much to do with this but it's still about him and his ball so it's still about him
Fair.

>>575260895
God damn, you're dumb.
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>>575261521
>Everything is Asimov's fault and adepts need to be mind controlled
But if the adepts didn't exist in the first place, there wouldn't be a problem, no? It's not really a refutation of that.
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I like the idea of Cope. In a series where the the central theme is struggle for coexistence and individual identity in a world that fears and seeks to regulate superpowered humans, I think it is equally important to have some human representation.
I don't like where they took the character though. But I think that's a sentiment that can be shared with pretty much all of the Gunvolt characters.
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>>575260895
>stars are shown to be right
>Acura loses it all
>GV turns into a pokemon
Now tell me how the third way where it works out after Pantera wins is impossible.
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>>575260763
>Because the Russian girl was 100% correct about everything
She wasn't right about how Eden was doing things so that's not 100% correct.
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>>575261521
>iX in it's entirety is a refutation of his "adept bad" beliefs. Everything is Asimov's fault and adepts need to be mind controlled to not care about minos
You know the alternate name of The Butterfly Effect? It's The Eternal Peacekeeping Device. True to its name, it was also meant to suppress the septimals' tendencies of having Adept Moments. And now it's gone, so we're probably back to GV1 levels of madness.
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>>575261521
>Eden is portrayed as tragic
doesn't mean they're right, sad kids still need to get slimed out for terrorism. they still validate this
>3 barely mentions the adept-minos conflict at all
by name, no. the entire thing of adepts just being a passive societal threat is just hit on constantly though since the whole point of the dragon saviors is to stop the dragon sperg outs, obviously there's no one around to care about the normies specifically that's kinda the point.
>iX in it's entirety is a refutation of his "adept bad" beliefs
being a "refutation" of copen's beliefs is still being about copen's beliefs. that's still the core of the plot even if the way it's being expressed has changed form.

he doesn't have to be correct but this is still the framing for basically every conflict in the series. copen good or copen bad doesn't actually matter. nike saying his path will lead to suffering and loss is ultimately true but he still walks it without hesitation because he must. unlike that blue little chicken shit lightning fuck boy he doesn't run away crying when things start getting a little bad
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>>575262480
Did you miss the brutal police state murdering adepts and minos on the street perpetually at war with political dissidents?
The "eternal peacekeeping" is just propaganda.
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>>575262738
Sorry anon, this is what the OCW says. Life was pretty fucking good inside the walls of Adeptopia compared to life outside it. Asimov, or some say Demerzel, was interested in the septimals living good lives.
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>>575263385
Unless your kid was a minos.
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>>575111754
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>>575263385
It's not hard to be better than ruined empty slums populated by dying children actively hiding. Bar is pretty low ya know
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Imagine being born some ordinary chode in a world full of 11/10 overcompetent superhumans with unique powers.
Are you at least liable for disability handouts? Or is just it the wettest israeli dream of gods and clods you can imagine.
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>>575264197
Septima doesn't give you enhanced intelligence or physique beyond what the power specifically does. The bit on the english version of fleeting memories was a Matt addition.
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>>575264426
True, but everything in the games and extra material backs it up, so most people just roll with it. Almost all the nonseptimals outside Copen are unextraordinary, and Copen and Kohaku's almost unexplainable knowledge lines up with what they say about high lifewaves levels (aka: glance at something and basically get a super detailed blueprint/theory of it in your head and how to fix it if broken).
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Inti made 1(one) game without Copen and they've being getting cyber bullied about adding him to it for 4 years to the point they gave him 2 separate campaigns in it
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>>575264873
>glance at something and basically get a super detailed blueprint/theory of it in your head and how to fix it if broken
I remember the characters in iX even drawing attention to the strangeness of it with Kohaku.
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>>575261778
Cope’s belief is that all adepts are bad and must die. iX shows that not all adepts are bad and must die. If that’s not a refutation then I don’t know what is.

>>575262591
>doesn't mean they're right, sad kids still need to get slimed out for terrorism.
That’s not what you said. You said Eden was hand-crafted to make Copen look good. A group of tragic villains that only exist because of people like Copen doesn’t do that; if anything, it does the opposite.
>the entire thing of adepts just being a passive societal threat is just hit on constantly though since the whole point of the dragon saviors is to stop the dragon sperg outs
Which means octima are the threat, not adepts.
>being a "refutation" of copen's beliefs is still being about copen's beliefs.
If your argument is that the story of the Copen spin-off game is about Copen and therefore the story of the entire series is about Copen, then I seriously don’t know what to tell you.
>unlike that blue little chicken shit lightning fuck boy he doesn't run away crying when things start getting a little bad
That’s exactly how 2 ends, you fucking clod. If he was “walking his path without hesitation” then he’d have killed his sister.

>>575263385
Compared to the minos genocide zone? You don’t say. Did you miss the part where half the bosses are adepts fighting with a gun to their heads? No, Asimov doesn’t care about adepts living good lives, the Butterfly Effect is just to make them easier to control and to not interfere with the minos genocide.
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>>575264873
The adepts we see front and center are the exceptional ones, the everyday adept is a shitter that gets to use a nice party trick at best for his trouble. Also Azure Striker gives enhanced physical capabilities so using GV as an example is moot.
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>>575265207
>I remember the characters in iX even drawing attention to the strangeness of it with Kohaku.
Because Kohaku is retarded in every other aspect. And even when it comes to her supposed knack for machinery, she just ends up winging it and it kinda works though not with its original intention.
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>>575265298
>The adepts we see front and center are the exceptional ones
Well yeah. A higher intensity lifewave (aka stronger septima) seems correlated with enhanced strength, reflexes, and/or intelligence. So it's not just state that matters (else Copen wouldn't be able to keep up with GV and the other adepts). The average adept probably isn't that great. Saying that, the Eden soldiers were way more mobile and dangerous than the Sumeragi grunts.
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>>575265637
>Saying that, the Eden soldiers were way more mobile and dangerous than the Sumeragi grunts.
They're also supposed to be between the ages of 10 and 20, so it's even more insane.
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>>575265268
>Compared to the minos genocide zone? You don’t say
If you watch the intro cutscene again, they both make a point of this being one of the better ones. But I'm not the one who wrote the OCW, this is all Tai.
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>>575265268
>You said Eden was hand-crafted to make Copen look good.
And they do. Being a threat because they got groomed as a result of being sad doesn't really change that they still are. They still literally get used, in real time, so Copen can win arguments about this exact thing with Gunvolt when they talk. That is their narrative purpose, so Copen saying this isn't conjecture that can be dismissed and you have to take it seriously.
>Which means octima are the threat, not adepts
literally the same thing but stronger, but it's still causing adepts to do this and doesn't discount anything that happened before gunvolt started spreading aids.
>If your argument is that the story of the Copen spin-off game is about Copen and therefore the story of the entire series is about Copen, then I seriously don’t know what to tell you.
concession accepted i don't know why you'd bring that up like it matters anyway
we aren't really arguing against the idea that this is even what the series is about anymore you are just saying "well copen is wrong! and he sucks!" like i care. Copen can be proven wrong on this again in GX and iX3 somehow, I hope he will even, and it will still be about the idea, which means it's relevant. It's all Copen all the way down baby.
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>>575265637
>the Eden soldiers were way more mobile and dangerous than the Sumeragi grunts.
Except SUMERAGI BANZAI, who is strong enough that AsimovGPT has his attack dog use his gimmick as base for her toolkit 100 years later.
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>>575266189
Did Zonda groom all of them?
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>>575266689
Yeah man. It's uh, a cult. They got groomed into a death cult.
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>>575266689
Of course.
I bet they've all done each other too.
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>>575266689
If she did, she didn't do a good job as most of them aren't all that religious and have very different drives/political beliefs. Hell, in Eden's Party, the G7 argue with Zonda all the time and treat her like a younger sibling, not a saint.

After replaying the games while reading the fantranslated script, I get the feeling that Eden are more similar to ATEMS than a group of crazy religious fanatics. ATEMS also had cult elements and hero worship going on, but it wasn't as prominent since the main antagonist was a military leader, not the shrine maiden. If Layla were the primary antagonist, they'd feel much more cultlike since Layla is ATEMS's priestess and has many of the same responsibilities as Zonda. In the ATEMS DLC and Mirage Party, they talk all the time about Layla doing rituals and acting as ATEMS oracle.
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>>575266082
No shit. That doesn’t refute anything.
>OCW
Alright, enough, show me.

>>575266189
>They still literally get used, in real time, so Copen can win arguments about this exact thing with Gunvolt when they talk.
No they fucking don’t, jesus christ. You’re not supposed to hear Copen being a racist cunt to the orphans that are fighting because of people being racist cunts to them and go “lol based,” that’s ridiculous.
>literally the same thing but stronger, but it's still causing adepts to do this and doesn't discount anything that happened before gunvolt started spreading aids.
No, they’re explicitly not, and nothing was happening before Gunvolt started spreading aids.
>concession accepted
Same.
>i don't know why you'd bring that up like it matters anyway
Because it’s blatant nonsense yet seems to be your point.
> we aren't really arguing against the idea that this is even what the series is about anymore you are just saying "well copen is wrong! and he sucks!" like i care.
I’m refuting the points you made, asshole. No, Copen being relevant doesn’t mean the series is about him.
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>>575267361
I don't think Tsuda considers Eden's Party to be canon. Eden in the games are way more evil and uncaring toward each other, like the Sumeragi adepts. If one of them dies, it's no big deal because they're in a death cult and weren't close. All of them were fanatical and hateful to a ridiculous degree. Zonda never acts cute and is creepy as fuck. She feels completely wrong and it's a relief when you kill her. If they show up again they will probably be an evil cult and the only faction you can't negotiate with.
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>>575267589
>Alright, enough, show me.
You can download it yourself on the wiki.
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>>575268007
I know, but I’m not going to read the entire thing to prove your point for you. Show me.
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>>575267589
>go “lol based,"
you don't have to think it's good, you just have acknowledge that it's happening. likewise, the only to stop them right now is by shooting those kids in the mouth, so they can hold this 5.56. trying to pin the blame back on copen spiritually doesn't really matter cause they still gotta die.
>nothing was happening before Gunvolt started spreading aids
he zapped quinn before that
>I’m refuting the points you made, asshole.
if you say so, you seem mad though
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>>575268098
It's really not a point I care about defending to go out of my way for. Look it up yourself, or don't, either is fine by me.
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>>575268453
>you don't have to think it's good
You just said that Eden was made to make Copen look good.
>he zapped quinn before that
Fair, but that’s also due to dragon/octima bullshit.
>you seem mad though
Now there’s a concession.

>>575268749
I can respect that. You’ll understand that I can’t just believe you, though.
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>>575269345
>You just said that Eden was made to make Copen look good.
To lend credence to his argument by showing the thing he's talking about happening. It happening is bad and preventable but it's still happening. It doesn't make Copen the good guy for killing children and being racist obviously it just means he has an actual argument based on observable reality when he didn't in 1. This is pretty simple stuff don't do semantics.
>Fair, but that’s also due to dragon/octima bullshit.
Okay then they just do that and we're back to square 1.
>Now there’s a concession.
Not really? I'm trying to have a good faith argument actually
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Wish they had put in true Zonda into one of the retro GV games, and that when you beat her, you make her cry.
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>>575265820
How they even got the money to arm those people?
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GX will be the first time Copen ever interacts with a male character on the same side.
Momo's doujinverse is becoming real.
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>>575271453
If you notice, a good number of Eden soldiers are armed with knives.
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>>575271453
Gibril streams. She didn't even need to do onlyfans streams.
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>>575269910
>This is pretty simple stuff don't do semantics.
This isn’t semantics, they’re your words.
I’ll admit, I’m probably overlooking the “in arguments” part. If by that you just mean it gives some insight on his perspective then sure.
>Okay then they just do that and we're back to square 1.
How? Those aren’t adepts.
>I'm trying to have a good faith argument actually
“Concession accepted” and “you sound mad” are not the words of someone trying to have a good faith argument. If you’re trying then alright, but try a little harder.
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>>575271453
Zonda controls the red light district. Figure it out.
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>>575270983
Technically, Zonda cries as she dies in GV2. Also, if you want to see real abuse, the execution for that girl in the main game is way more brutal.
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>>575272156
>How? Those aren’t adepts.
If that's what Adepts become, then Adepts are still a problem? It's like saying Reploids aren't a problem, Mavericks are. Sure that's technically correct but Reploids are the things becoming Mavs you can't divorce them from the process because they come out named a new thing or are affected by Sigma or some shit. You have to put an adept into the machine first, they are part of the equation. We're still just doing name stuff. Again.
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>>575265820
>Eden soldiers only ones to show their faces
The really wanted you to feel weird about killing them.
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>>575272941
>If that's what Adepts become, then Adepts are still a problem?
By that logic minos are a problem, because minos become adepts.
>It's like saying Reploids aren't a problem, Mavericks are.
Which would be true.
>We're still just doing name stuff. Again.
Do you want to get back on track?
GV1 isn’t about Copen. He’s a character, but he’s not the focus. The adept/minos conflict isn’t introduced with him, it’s the central theme of the game.
GV2 is about Copen, at least partially. Which makes sense, it’s his debut as the Player 2. While Eden certainly doesn’t portray Copen as in the right, it does give some insight into his perspective.
GV3 isn’t about Copen. At all. He’s mentioned exactly once, in passing, and not even by name. GV2 was the end of mainline Cope. Saying that it’s about Copen’s beliefs because it involves adepts being dangerous is way too big a stretch.
iX1 and 2 are both about Copen. Obviously. The Copen spin-offs are about Copen, what a shock.

Put together, I’m willing to agree that the Gunvolt series is 50% about Copen, give or take. Which seems appropriate, he’s the Player 2.
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>>575111754
What's up with the skull?
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>>575271741
>GX will be the first time Copen ever interacts with a male character on the same side.
Uh no?
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>>575271453
USAID funds
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>>575275182
>By that logic minos are a problem, because minos become adepts.
Not really the same thing but you know that.
>Which would be true.
No, reploids kinda sucking is definitely part of the problem. They actually try to fix it over time in-universe instead of just blaming everything on the Ligma Virus to varying levels of success. We need a video game so they never really do but it's the thought that counts.
>The adept/minos conflict isn’t introduced with him
It actually is I'm pretty sure, might need to double check though. Everything before Sinner's Row should just be Sumeragi being bad which is exploitative but to everyone anyway without much distinction apart from some lab subjects. Let me do a quick run through to make sure I'm not full of shit on that count but I'm like 90% sure nothing explicitly human vs adept is before that
>he’s not the focus
I agree, he's not even very directly important in 1 as a character in himself but I'm saying the plot threads he introduces ends up being the core of the whole story, so him and his beliefs are always going to be partially relevant even when he's not there. Obviously the story of 3 isn't about Copen as a character but it's still a tale about the long term consequences of shit he told you was going to happen
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>>575269910
>To lend credence to his argument
It was moreso to show the thing Nova warned GV about coming to pass.
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>Mega Man general
Cool
>half of the thread is Intislop discussion
Gross. Wished these faggots would stop latching onto MM and make their own threads.
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>>575277525
Unironically this lmao.
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>>575277525
I wish we spent more time talking about the X series really bad
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>>575277525
Arguing about it won't solve anything.
If you want to talk about Megaman and override the inti discussion, do it instead of pointlessly complaining.
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>>575276964
>Not really the same thing but you know that.
Why not?
>No, reploids kinda sucking is definitely part of the problem.
MMX absolutely does not make the point that reploids are the problem. The only people that do so are Neo Arcadia, who are the bad guys and even they label them as mavericks first, and Weil, the single most evil motherfucker in the franchise. I can at least see where you’re coming from with Cope, but this is just completely absurd.
>Everything before Sinner's Row should just be Sumeragi being bad which is exploitative but to everyone anyway without much distinction apart from some lab subjects.
Oh, if you mean adepts vs minos on the absolutely most basic level, without even Sumeragi in the middle, then I guess you could say Cope introduces that. Sorta. But Nova and Asimov are both all about that too, and they’re both more important than Cope, so…
>I'm saying the plot threads he introduces ends up being the core of the whole story, so him and his beliefs are always going to be partially relevant even when he's not there. Obviously the story of 3 isn't about Copen as a character but it's still a tale about the long term consequences of shit he told you was going to happen
I get where you’re coming from, but if that was a point the series was making I think they’d…I dunno, make it. That passing mention of Cope isn’t about his beliefs, it’s just that he was tough. I guess Kirin mentions his dad once?
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>>575276964
>Let me do a quick run through to make sure I'm not full of shit on that count but I'm like 90% sure nothing explicitly human vs adept is before that
Did my little run through. There's mentions of Sumeragi experimentation and camps but that's being framed mostly as matter of corporate exploitation (Sumeragi Bad) instead of an existential struggle like Copen does later. I'll give myself partial credit there since that's like a perspective thing.
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>>575277954
Go for it. X is good.
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>>575278757
Funny you mention Weil.
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Say, if Xiao does somehow survive his fated battle against GV, Cope and Kirin, do you think we'll still get that iX + Striker Princess campaign in Gal*Guardians to ever so slightly change their fate a bit?
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>>575278757
>MMX
>Neo Arcadia
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>>575278757
>MMX absolutely does not make the point that reploids are the problem
I'd argue X4 is about reploids being dumbasses on both sides and causing problems all by themselves and so is X8 to a lesser extent since it shows that the New Gen Reploids just choose to do All That by themselves. Maverick as a term gets diluted in some places to just mean bad guy even if there's no real programming flaw but it's not in your face obvious at it until MMZ where they just throw it at everyone they don't like.
You're good man I'm kinda tired now
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>>575278757
Command Mission had a lot of HUMANS BAD. The Mavericks were pretty justified in taking over Giga City and kicking out the humans when the Hunters moved in, and the secret villain was the regional Hunter/military commander who had been manipulating both sides. No mention of maverick virus.
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>>575279679
To this day I have not played command mission so I'll take your word for it. Everything I know about it is from daibu
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>>575279679
It really didn't the humans kicked out. Rebellion wanted their own reploid place. Redips tried playing both sides by he didn't actually have anything to do with the Rebellion's choices.
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Does Xiao have the most bullshit power in the series? Xiao's implied to have orchestrated GV's death in several loops, despite all of GV's phenomenal power.
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>>575279007
Give me a GV2.5 vs mainline Cope who turns into a Ragnarok-like monster. Give that amazing final form in an even more anime setting.

>>575279262
I meant to type “in MMZ” in there. I swear!

>>575279379
Even in those cases it’s not presented as reploids being bad, just mavericks. Repliforce spergs out and get labeled as mavericks. Lumine goes off about how his guys can go maverick at will, whatever that really means. In neither case is it that reploids as a whole are the problem.
>You're good man I'm kinda tired now
Have a sleep, anon.

>>575279679
I guess? The Rebellion is pretty bad, they’re trying to blow up civilians and have a fucking death camp.
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>>575280680
All you gotta do is shoot GV when he's not paying attention, surely with time powers it can't be that hard to off-guard Juan a couple times
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>>575280680
I wonder whatbhe has against Pantera. Maybe he doesn't want minos to have rights and she'd let them vote.
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>>575281768
She's one of the best experts on Septima in the setting, and her Septima was highly compatible with the Muse (likely because it's so similar). With her know-how and compatibility, she could separate the Muse from GV and absorb it. This likely altered the Muse in some way that was vital to Xiao's plan. GV then bisecting her allowed Xiao and Nori to make the pendant.
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>>575281768
she's shit so might as well bury her.
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>>575276841
They are one nuclear power reactor away from being a compilation of all the things that the people who hand out USAID founds hate. Also the USA is dead by then.
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>>575282317
I like how the filename still has her as Mysterious Girl. Who could this be, I wonder?

>>575283045
I like both USAID and nuclear power…
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>>575280680
>>575281415
Turns out you can kill the Brazileiro but you can't kill Brazil! Also odds are another electric retard ends up eating his hue hue shards thus making another damn dragon.
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>>575281768
She's a fake Chinese.

The other answer is that maybe he wasn't completely lying about his feelings concerning Eden and they did do some shit to him and his family in his original timeline. Or maybe their ideals disgusted him. He could have been part of Eden and seen their supremacist ideals up close. As a rule, GV characters don't have a lot of sympathy for others, don't believe that people can be changed, and are very vindictive and present oriented, probably because of their ages. This means that none of them really seek to convince others, even Xiao who has enough knowledge to manipulate everyone else. He will seek a solution where all of his enemies die instead of one where they are turned good, just like GV or Copen would.
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>>575283341
She's a real chink. People don't understand how much chinaman hates their equals. Xiao is the crabbiest crab in the bucket.
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>>575279007
INTI can only reference their past (better) work, water is also wet in other news.
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>>575283341
So pre-GV3, if they had a button that converted all their foes to their side or turned them into nonadepts, and a button that killed all their enemies, they'd push the latter?
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>>575283229
This is because boorus are gigaretarded and still have three different tags for Zonda (Pantera, Zonda and Mysterious Girl) and no they're not used to distinguish between fake, true and reverie, they're just used inconsistently.
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>>575267945
The way she talked and acted never came off as creepy to me, but cute. It created a contrast between her looks and demeanor, enhancing both. It's hard to be creepy and intimidating when you're a magical girl Alice knockoff.
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>>575285686
It has more to do with the fact that Booru uploaders don't care to keep track of niche series.
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>>575286925
Knockoff is the only accurate thing.
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>>575286925
>outplayed everyone
>helping the heroes was just part of her master plan to gnab the Grimoire of Mirages and take over the villain org

She's not Zonda; she's a lot more competent.
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>>575276786
How does one "gradually" replace their entire skull with cybernetics?
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>>575287706
very carefully
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>>575287334
So is she gonna die in the finale?
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>>575287009
She is literally the only character with this problem afaik, nobody else has jp name on top of localized one.
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>>575283341
>Xiao talked to Tenjian once whom went on a rant about how all minos should be eradicated right next to Asroc and Nike
For a man with bullshit powers he's not very smart.
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>>575288221
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>>575252180
>Getting lady-knight vibes
So it's only a matter of time until she's ravished by orcs?
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>>575289213
The orcs of the GV world are minos.
Which explains Kirin, honestly.
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>>575288221
Of course not.
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GV3 is not a real released video game
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>>575290327
What does that make GX?
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>>575292160
Headcanon of a fanfiction for a fanfiction made up of several ocs by Zero devs.
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I'm in. when do i start banging copen's mom
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>>575294245
When the path of divergence arrives, should you fail to resist this, judgement will be lenient for you're only human.
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>>575294584
the subtle looseness of the bra strap, this was clearly crafted by an artisan
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>>575295073
it's painted on
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>>575295357
And people wonder why Houdai defied God herself to get with Maya.
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>>575294584
I'm not attracted to her at all though
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>>575295447
the model painting's just ass
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>>575287334
I know tismbattle will never touch an ecchi character ever but man Arcana Shadow vs Magia Baiser would go so hard.
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Why would anybody pick the censored SS Roll over the original one?
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>>575298436
Honestly, I like that one more. It's cuter. School swimsuits were never my jam.
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>>575298436
it looks nice
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>>575298436
Oh, it's Mr. Driller's emo brother! And his rabbit thing.
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>>575296175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPOb3DlB7WA
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>>575302250
kek
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>Mytyl, Xiao, GV, Copen, Lumen, Zonda, and Nova all clustered together
>Joule standing several characters away from them
Why? She should be standing next to GV, not Mytyl
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>>575303404
Is her sprite even used in GV2?
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>>575303404
Cyan had to be weaned off of GV so she can get a boyfriend and fuck off to a safe place to live out her life so none of the events of the trilogy occur.
Sorry people, it's for the greater good.
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>>575304709
But that's the tragedy of their story. Jiibui only wants to give Joule the peaceful life she dreams of, but as long as she remains The Muse she'll be desired by evil forces who seeks to exploit her powers.
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>>575303404
>inti can't even make a height chart without fucking it up
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>>575298436
By not being given a choice.
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Making cheese with Pandora's milk
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>>575311280
rockforte cheese...
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>>575311280
Very french.
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>>575298436
Because fuck you that's why
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>>575277525
Go back to your own split thread then? Not sure what you're expecting from crying like a little bitch.
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>>575305837
>(you) can't go even a minute without seething at inti
>all day every day
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>>575311280
I don't think she has that function.
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>seethe over Inti getting called out for fucking up
>again
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>>575318443
Ew.
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>>575318443
Based.
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>>575318443
Cringe.
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>>575318443
Post more
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>n-no u
lol
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You know, crying about losing kudos in iX2's hard mode is pointless, since the entire Gunvolt series pretty much promotes learning to no damage the entire game anyway.
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>>575318443
Post less
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>>575324779
Yes but no other instance guts basic mobility and forces you to play different over it.
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>>575318443
We.
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>>575303404
All of Morpho's height comes from her butterfly headset, that's cheating
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>>575303404
Does Desna's ahoge form a heart whenever she gets turned on?
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>>575324779
Imagine if Gunvolt's tag gun was locked behind 1K kudos, and you had to kill enemies with the basic untagged flashfield until then.
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>>575333872
It's nowhere close to that bad.
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>>575335254
Yes it is. Locking Copen out of aerials is as bad as locking Gunvolt out of multikills
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>>575287706
it's also implied that his brain, despite being the original, is also modified to the point of not being a living organ anymore
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>>575335804
Quick Pizzacutters are nice as a scoring system too
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Where's Tactical Communication, INTI! You know it's your best bet at selling one million copies on release month.
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Inter Creatures - fucking up plots since 1996.
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>>575336401
>30 kudos per kill
lol stop being contrarian
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>>575335804
>Yes it is.
You're actually retarded if you believe that's the case. Untagged flashfield does chip damage and takes a literal minute to kill even one basic enemy by itself. Razor wheel takes out an enemy in like a second or two.
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>>575318443
They.
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>>575340896
They/Them?
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>>575342916
just They.
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>>575146271
It's hard to imagine any Electric Brazilian being happy doing paperwork instead of bashing skulls. Deep down she was probably more satisfied with being Asimov's attack dog and relishes any excuse to get away from her desk.
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I'm me he says
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>>575340242
Fair enough, untagged flashfield is like holding the first saw out at. So how about this-picture tapping the flashfield button 3 times to make its untagged damage close to acceptable at the cost of losing your mobility while using it.
Would you like that? Obviously not. Because even the concept of removing Gunvolt's tags is fucking awful
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>>575331003
It's GalGun, but grimdark, so yeah.
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>>575329273
The heights are rounded up. Elise's height is actually 167 cm, for instance.
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>>575316941
Why wouldn't she? She can get pregnant, how else she gonna feed the baby.
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>>575349762
I'm not so sure that having a baby growing up inside a womb polluted with W energy is a good idea.
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>>575350018
It's a human baby, the W energy doesn't do anything.
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>>575350018
We're W maxing with Pandora's womb. She's not giving birth to any L babies.
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>>575311280
How about you drink her breast milk like a normal person instead of letting it SPOIL. Cheese is DISGUSTING
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>>575346413
>It's GalGun, but grimdark
It's always such a depressing thought. This is where our lovable, lighthearted SoL dorks ends up: A world ruled by systemic prejudice, corporate corruption, and deep psychological trauma where most of them die off tragically before even hitting their 40s. And all their kids run around and brutally executes each other for good measure.
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>>575249367
>>575249568
>敵女の優れた存在と遺伝子と未来が失われることに興奮する。復活させたい…出産して欲しい…その衣装のまま胸のところをめくるか開いて赤ちゃんにお乳をあげて欲しい…お母さん譲りの美しい容姿で育って欲しい…

>I get excited at the thought of losing the enemy woman's superior existence, genes, and future. I want to bring her back... I want her to give birth... I want her to lift up her dress at the chest and breastfeed her baby... I want the baby to grow up with the beautiful looks it inherited from its mother...

Yup, the Inti fandom has the same weird tastes no matter the language or origin.
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>>575351923
Kaoruko's and Shinobu's kids killed Junko's kid.
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>>575352423
I dunno man that sounds based and relatable.
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>>575351923
It's the illness of the "modern world".
It perfectly mirrors the loss of the exchi light hearted fun of the early to mid 2000s and the westernification that sapped all joy and beauty from the world and is actively trying to put down what remains.
The only paths forward are the iX2 timeline where the west wins and all beauty and creativity is sacrificed on the altar of venture capital and all that remains is ai slop.
Or the GV3 timeline where it's still shit and neutered and slowly dying to western capital as represented by the dragons with no way to roll back the clock just delay the inevitable.
And the impossible third path where Pantera wins representing the much needed collapse of the industry so that giant corporations are replaced with grassroots creators but the caveat is the west can just print money and prevent thus from happening.
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>>575353660
My favorite little Christian communist.
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>>575351585
you never had good cheese
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>>575355042
no such thing, bacteria muncher
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Cheese-hate has to be most bizarre form of baiting someone's done in these threads.
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>>575356696
Anything to avoid falling off of page 10 again
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>>575356696
We will return to cube posting
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Next bake better have big butt brats on bikinis.
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>>575357494
>big butt brats on bikinis
>they all have small butts
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>>575350321
We saw W energy turn people's souls into cyber elves for easier consumption in ZX.
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>>575357494
Bratbutts heal the soul.
Just the soul though, please go to a hospital for non-spiritual injuries.
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>>575357649
Classic Roll and MayL have suck big bums that their skirts can't keep them contained every time they take a step. Also requesting this as the next OP post.
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>>575357494
So you're saying we should Full Moon the catalogue?
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>>575357959
They don't but keep drinking the koolaid
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>>575357987
I guess that'd make us lunatics.
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>>575358430
It's just a phase.
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Who is baking?
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>>575360753
I am.
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>>575361481
>>575361481
>>575361481

MOVE
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No, me.
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>>575361581
It's already up



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