Main website: https://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/enWiki: https://relink.gbf.wiki/>FAQsBase game FAQ: https://rentry.org/RelinkFAQER DMG rundown: https://rentry.co/ytczavom>Patch 2.0.2 detailshttps://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/381/>Send your feedback herehttps://relink.granbluefantasy.jp/en/app/feedbackPrevious Thread: >>575163443
Installing the game right now, all the videos going into characters are 2 years old, is there anything new since then or are they still good?
>very first spartan echo summon>HP+ 1800welp ill take it
>>575288793The DLC added a bunch of shit to each character you can only unlock that after you beat the base game, so just beat the base game first.
>>575288606I don't like this OP, danchou.Its cursed aura mocks me.
I know about aegis and greater aegis and drain and Regen, are there any other combos?
>>575288793In addition to DLC unlocks there was a bunch of rebalancing for damage mults, damage caps, and sigils, so almost none of the old stuff still applies.
>>575288907I LOVE PERFECT INPUTS DURING LASER CUTSCENES AND FLASHBANG BOMBS IN MY EYESI LOVE SUBSTITUTE STYLE SO I DIE IN ONE FRAME IN THE MIDDLE OF MY COUNTER ANIMATION BECUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE PROPER INVINCIBILITYI LOVE SKILL SPAM TREE THAT ALSO RELIES ON PERFECT INPUTS FOR SOME REASON? YEAH WE LIKE THAT HERE I LOVE GRANBLUE FANTASY RELINK.COM
>>575289285Mr. Pigfried, the silent protector.He takes on all the bullshit the game has to offer, so we don't have to...
>>575288859>>575289263I'm thinking of playing Ferry but apparently she's bottom of the barrel, I'm no tier whore but I am curious how significant the difference between high and low tier characters are, am I going to be putting in like 100x more work to get good results or is it a matter of like 10-20% difference
>>575289494Unironically every character can S++ everything in the game, but in pubs you're gonna see the MVP go mostly to the retarded ones. MVP is useless aside from circlejerking rights.
Sexy outfits are cringe and kill all atmosphere.CYgames really nailed it this time.
when the fuck did I get this
Post top 3 played characters
>>575289735Is this achievable natty?
>>575289735Is that how many times they came?
>Enter Link time with Rosetta>Spiral Rose and Lost Love keep putting each other out of cool downWait, is Rosetta a walking tactical nuke? I thought she was a support
>>575289979Yes
>>575289494Take the Ferry pill if you want to actually trivialize every fight, she's actually invincible
>>575289735>2400 plays of two new charactersWhat kind of autism is this?
the AI clears luci faster than mei cant fucking believe this
>>575289735I can't find it.
>>575289494I'd say tiers in 2.0.2 matter the least they have in the game's life so far. The "weak" characters typically have other good QoL aspects, and the strong characters aren't nearly as far above the average powerlevel as in previous patches.Pet Ferry has obscene bulk and high stun which matters a lot for endgame bosses, petless has respectable DPS on paper but still strikes me as a meme build more than anything
>>575289735
>>575291061And there's Katalina. Literally nothing good can be said about her.
>>575289735That's a lotta Charlotta
>>575291367I like katalina though...
>>575291367Katalina and Rackam are definitely the worst two to me. Rackam at least has ease of use as a benefit, and Katalina has some shenanigans with Guardian's Honor if you want high upkeep on Light Wall or other support skills.
>>575291698shut the fuck up vira
>>575290659She has the highest dps during link time now, even higher than pre-nerf ganda
>>575291061Thanks to support being real this time everyone brings some value instead of just damage a direct upgrade from vanilla
Io's AI is awful bros... You guys lied to me...
>>575291952Every Insight Io I've rented performed well. Haven't tried the others.
>>575291952Id Dragonform maxxing is one of the best AI i have ever seen, very high dps
>>575292080I'm not a fucking furry bro
you guys really, REALLY like Harvins don't you? I expected Narmaya to top the charts played since she's the most popular draph
>>575291807>Hagsetta>highest DPS during link time
>>575291952Hmm, nyo.
i just got this game from santathe samurai shortstack with the fat tiddies is my favoriteactual gameplay too in this game had no idea im feeling spoilt
Best way to farm Grand Refinium I?PLEASE don't say Conflux
>>575289735Where do you check it?
>>575289735I had no idea I had this much Narmaya time. Must have been from the End-game of Vanilla. Ive played her twice in the DLC.
>>575293092Co-op settings, check players and view your own profile.
>>575291740Coffinmaker spam is really funny though he has that going for him
>>575293173>>575289735No way I used Rosetta only 80 times
>>575292278The harvins in this game are very fun to play (yes, really like Maglielle)
Who canonically would smell worse, Bea or Zeta?
>>575293441Cag
>add more society members>no infinite pyet-afor what reason
>>575289735I should probably use Ferry again, haven't used her even once since I started ER
>>575293441Bea literally lived like bum before Zeta adopted her
>>575293818Was she selling herself?
>>575293818Homeless Bea skin when?
Where the Vas mains at?
The Mogging will continue untill play improves.
Is lvl45 uplift necessary on Bea?Can I get away with 34 using On the clock?
So is Zeta still about loops or is there something else now?
Do backseat party members stopped getting any exp at all? Characters, who were 90, weren;t leveled up even after 30 games.
>>575294783Yes, but they still get XP if you complete a sidequest or do story chapters
>>575294783just feed them gold book
>>575294502You don't need any lil bro but you can also use however much you want
>>575295051But I wanted an easy passive tickets farm...
>>575294353Hello
>>575294502I only have 30+2 and I sometimes find myself leading when there's no dedicated SBA battery.
>>575292939p-pls respond
Im starting to think maybe I dont like this game. 200 hours in. Im fighting Omnis Zegalith and its just dawned on me none of these end-game quests are even remotely fun.
I wish there was a menu to just pour materials into a bucket and progress characters. I made the mistake of unlocking most of the cast very early on and now I need to spend so much time doing stupid fucking menuing to uncap their weapons and level them and roll overmasteries and all that shit.
>>575296235why are charlotta players like this?
>>575296768Ghandagoza main. Every fight feels the same because every fight is just FILL THE ARENA WITH CIRCLES AND CUTSCENES.
Help!! I'm constantly at 4000/5000 or more in sigils and I don't know how to stop hoarding them in hopes of synthing better combos
>>575296193Nightmare Valley looks like its guaranteed to drop at least 10-20 per runProblem is, it's a 6 minute defend map
>>575296928recycle all your spartan, zerk, WE and stout sigils
>>575296985well the alternative is running cumfluence for 10-15 mins for the 20 stack reward
I'm enjoying Narmaya but what stance am I supposed to be using Transient in?
>>575296896I'm with you a bit on the cutscenes but the circles are only a problem if you let them beEmbrace a tankmaxxing build and just pretend they don't exist
>>575297139dang I had hundreds of stout hearts in my inv somehow.
>>575292939I and II do slimes. Gives both + MSP.
>>575297459Also: is it better to charge or tap her big charge skill? Setsuna, or whatever it's called.
>>575297481The game isnt difficult. Except maybe Lucilious. My point is literally every fight feels identical. What made the end-game bosses unique in Vanilla is now just standard for fucking everything. Also Omnis is probably the worst fight in the game. What a fucking snooze fest of nothingness.
>Hit the final Mastery Trait level unlocks>Take every Damage Cap increase>Have 2 different 50 Damage Cap increase Summons.>Im still 300% over cap before Terminus weaponsPeople will still defend this system btw.
>>575297459>>575297540Use your skills in blue stance.Always hold setsuna unless you need to jump into a link. It's one of the few attacks that can hit the hardcap.
>>575297836Thank u very much*smooch*
>>575297779How is it the game's fault that you expect it to automatically give you a perfect build?
>>575297779If you maxed out all sources of damage cap, move some resources from damage into health/defense. Not sure what the problem is here.
>>575291952My AI Io is almost always the MVP.
>>5752962353 bosses are fucking cancer as a melee without stout heartI unlocked infy and still think this
Do Harvins have fun-size pussies or adult-sized ones
>>575299647Yes
Who is Fraux supposed to be in the lore?
>>575299861a random nympho hated by everyone in her village except her 1 friend, and devil decides to remove her friend so she makes pact with za warudo because of her potential
>>575299861The Evoker of Strength contracted with the Arcanum The Devil.The World basically kidnapped a bunch of fuck ups and with the promise of an ideal world their job is to nurture these Arcarum.
>>575289494ferry isn't bottom barrel unlike base game ferry era, that place is now reserved for someone like sandalflop, katalina and song unless you can minmax piloting song>petless dps trait can do some numbers sadly its bad against mobile bosses>pet trait while dogshit at dps enables infamous tank ferry build where deadly damage puddles becomes her personal SBA battery (she casually charges 0>100% sba during the world transform phase btw) and shit like infinity gopperwood ark only tickles>support trait is....okay that one is just sad play cog or even katalina instead for buffslut
Setting up Bea mode is hard
>>575300092>>575300470I heard that she was a slut who turned into lesbian, Is that true?
Watching people forget that Chaos++ Proto Bahamut opens with Skyfall and die within the first 15 seconds of the quest will never stop being funny.
>>575301054SALVATION
>>575301054i can squeeze a few seconds of damage with the cannons
>>575300851>SlutLook how she dresses, anonShe can't stop showing off her beauty so the whole village just treats her like some slutEvery man wants to fuck her, every woman hates her>LesbianHer friend is her most precious thing since she was introduced so they probably plan to make her lesbian, it's just that by the time when she's introduced some players thought her friend is merely imagination. It's not
>>575301054In my case I always forget that the orbs explode when he Reginleiv's them.
I've been playing with people now that I'm on Proud but why are they dying so much? Aren't they supposed to be experts if they have numbers next to their LV100? Just did Pyet-A for the first time and failed cause a Fraux kept dying
>>575301348Anyone can cheat in unlimited MSP, especially if they have a chinese name.
>>575301348Most people who're still doing proud are just newbieIf they're not ML50 don't expect much from themIn some rare case they join with quick quest, which drastically reduce their stat, if they still play it recklessly with that condition then they might keep dying
>thought Bea was fun>try her in actual fight>give up playing her after 30 minutesNopeThe whole clock stuff is not of my style afterall, trying to get the shit running and then dying and have to start all over again while i do literal nothing turns it FUCKING SUCKSAnd whiffing the power finishers is rage inducing too
I need 6 crewmate cards.I can buy one for golden badges and I can get one for finding 3 men in red shirts. Where do I find 4 more? I think I already found everything in the chapters
>>575301348lvl100 doesnt mean much and the jump from Maniac to Proud is a steep one
>>575301468Only high IQ individuals can main Bea
despite loving this game, i don't feel like playing it anymore because cheating is so common that it feels pointless.
>>575301503The DLC gives you a lot if you're up to that.
>>575301503Side quests in town give you a couple. There's enough to get everyone with some to spare, especially if you wait for them to join for free (Fraux and Fediel) or use their special cards (Sandalphon, Seofon, Tweyen).
>>575289227this nigga readin loading screens
can any bea bros post your sigil set ups please and thank you
>>575301468i swapped to the insight tree and honestly have been enjoying it more than the essence treegold clock is fun and all but really punishing if you fuck up at all, you cant gorilla face tank as much with insight but i honestly dont think i lose much damage compared to a essence user regardless
>>575289227only 5% of the total sigils available that are viable bwo. you don't have to worry about combos.
shit i forgot to slot Stronghold somewhere tooNo wonder a sneeze can kill like this
>>575303032Drop terra and you can get rid of both aegis and greater aegis.
>>575303130isn't Terra that fucking good though?
how am I meant to finish a combo on someone like fraux or narmaya before some random bullshit cucks me, when I play bea or zeta I am completely unbothered and at peace
>>575303178No it's terrible. just 70% damage cap towards your already several thousand, it's like a 2% or 3% increase and if you want to make up for the lost HP it's costing you 2 sigil slots, a total waste.
>>575303220Your pink petals bro?
Is there an actual way to not overcap DMG cap this much?If i take off a sigil i am not capping the skill and bothers me, and this is a total waste too
>>575303220Did you know that they added the ability to offset your combos with dodges in ER?
And how good is this actually? I can run an Incendo+Lumen sigil i made instead and free up a slot for more Stronghold or other utilityI am at Quick CD 45
>>575303683min max better
So if I'm understanding this correct, I should put damage cap until my dmg % is close to 100 in the training dummy otherwise im just waiting damage, correct?
>accidentally unlocked and synthesized my health+lumen sigilI'll KILL MYSELF
>>575289735>6kDid you like spam Defeat--*wheeze*--Goblin Boss or something?
>>575303683get lucky with summons+stone combos
>>575304296I farmed a lot of behemoth for War Elemental+ back in base relink.
How do I change weapon traits?
>>575303928kinda mandatory on insight but its probably whatever on the other specs, if you're essence you wont be using that many skills in devour anyways
>>575304515Press L3 when highlighted in the gear screen.
Goddamn I want to mating press Fediel so bad
>>575303032try switching drain to nimble defense
>>575304219Answer me
>>575304875put on the skirt femboy and she will actually cowgirl you
>>575300501i've played petless ferry against all the infinity bosses and she is fine. you just want untouchable and you have to get used to her dodge cancelling covering more distance. it's not that much different from pet ferry anyway since onslaught has about the same range as her jumpslam loop
>>575304296are you the guy that keeps posting kot in mhg? because if you are lemme kiss u anon
>>575304728>>575304515>read this in passing>try it>mfw
>>575305251I'd rather fuck this than Fediel
>>575305881Faggot
>>575305386No.
>>575306047Begone, proto-ghoul.
So basically Lucilius is the be all end all of villains? For a gacha with 10 years worth of lore I thought the story would eclipse one piece or something.
>>575307135It had 3 years of build up with the new "anniversary event" format and made its appearance at the peak of the IP's popularity
>>575307301I don't see how they can follow up Granblue with a sequel now desu. Maybe Cygames will just make a new IP that has the same gameplay but keep the story going for a while.
>>575307438Its already on its sequel. They reached Estalucia and met the Captain's dad and mom.
>>575305183correct
>>575307135Hype wise, he's the best villain for sure. Power wise he's been eclipsed by a few people now.
>>575307135granblue's lore is dogshit and the ending + part 2 of the main story piss all over it even further. the few enjoyable parts are just isolated hype moments in events like "...and you"
>>575305947Well. Yeah.
>>575307804and you is required reading for Relink
>>575307581>>575307738Oh that's good to know. Google sucks in giving info and it keeps saying Lucilius is the big bad.
I don't care about lore. This could have been Priconne Re:Link and I would still waste hours on it
>>575307135No, there is still Phoenix, Moondweller, and Demons from Earthenrealm(only unlocked if crew reached Estalucia).....and Lucifer forma de diablo
>>575305947I'm not gay but I would suck percy's white cock like a vanilla popsicle
The conflux experience when grinding for old mats.I'm starting to think some buffs just don't show up at all unless you've bought enough into their tree.
Anyone remember the link for Granblue storyline? It was given way back in /gbfr/ like 2 years ago. It basically have a collection of all the stories from the Gacha.I thought I saved it but it's not ib my bookmarks
You can't hide from me, I saw that homo knight team
Is double stacking the Basic Sigils give DMG Cap traits actually decent? If so what even counts as a "basic Sigil". Theres a category and I assume it means primary stats are basic but is there ways you can game the system by 2 basic sigils or a basic stat that maybe rolls DMG Cap?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btL7R39JsS4
>>575311738There's two traits in master that add 20% dmg cap (so 40% total) per basic one. They all have the same symbol, the first trait is what matter.>Critical Hit Rate>HP>ATK>Stun PowerSo I've seen people doing like 3 stun powers then flip flopping hp and atk depending on how close to damage cap you are.
>>575311640herehttps://game.granbluefantasy.jp/#comicNot sure do you need account
>>575312424>According to Sigil Synthesis it is possible to make a primay Stun and Secondary DMG Cap Sigil.Well time to save scum as CyGames intended.
>>575312484That's the game though. I don't think I'll have time to go through it.I think I found it? But I sort of recall it playing the game's videos and stuff rather than just text.https://calico.nekoweb.org/gbf/jp/story/girl_in_blue/
I played Relink but I didn't play ER yet and I have a question:Are summon calls not viable?I've barely seen any footage of players using summons. Even the discussions are mostly about their passives.
>come back from vacation>half of my muscle memory goneFUCK
Guys Im just finished the story getting overwhelmed by the sigilsLiterally the only thing keeping me from really enjoying this gameAny tips or rule of thumb really appreciated
>34 Million damage charge attack.>its ~400% over DMG Capk
>>575317002Base game? You just want to worry about damage cap and getting your hp decently high while staying under 45k for terminus when they drop for you. Also grab your character's exclusive ones (they're puprle and have their face).Buuuut since the game will just push you to ER right after now, I imagine, just keep rolling for now. Your power level is gonna keep ballooning.
>>575316790they’re absolutely viable, and some of them have very strong abilities. the reason you don’t see them often is because the game is so optimized that you can just go SBA > link time > SBAthere’s little need for summon utility when the boss is stunlocked most of the time anyway
>>575317217Thanks I'll do that and keep pushing ahead
>just unlocked Conflux 5>beat the black dragon at the end of it>the exit just appearsHuh? Did I miss something?
>>575317441Supposed to get a path for bubz as well, that's weird.>>575317321You got this, anon!
>Quest stop auto repeating after a whileGod damn it they kept that in?
How does full AFK work when you need to move the joystick to enable full assist?
>>575318619
>>575318619The Eustace inside you
>>575318680>>575318715Does he attack even without moving the joystick?
>>575318757Yes that's the thing about him, he'll engage by his own in slimeblast, that's why the ideal AFK farming is building your own dogfucker, enlist one from another player (watch their own build, the community has a dreadful noomber obsession in that list and will make absurdly shit build to reach as high as they can), and the two other CPUs just need to not suck.
>>575319283>he'll engage by his own in slimeblastHow the fuck? None of the other ranged characters do this. Do you need specific masteries or character sigils or can he do it naked. All this time I thought this guy was completely eusless.
>First time ive seen a Lancelot in all the time in the DLC>Mog him with my BGC in front of the hoes.Feels good.
>>575319560NTA but I think the issue (good thing) is his mechanics being based on range. As such, the computer will calculate ranges and move him into optimal ones. His kit just made them give him a longer auto detect range to make it work, which coincidentally makes it amazing for auto.
>>575319560No idea, it's hard to tell if it was intended, personally I doubt it was, Eustace's behaviour really feels like more of an unforeseen byproduct more than anything else, so I'd say take advantage of it while you can, for all we know they're gonna "fix" that.But even if you don't intend to AFK slimeblast with him, I'd say he's worth building all the same, his CPU seem just generally competent all around.
>>575289735eustace is all afk
>>575319560Oh yeah, forgot to say, no, he doesn't need any funky build or masteries for it, it's all built within his own AI, so even if you CAN'T make a super optimized Slimeblasting Eustace, it's daijobu, he'll get it done all the same.
I dont have eustace, graham or eugen in my top 3 cause i just flingtrainer all the MSP I need, lol.
>>575289735I haven't been enjoying Vas in the expansion sadly
Fraux hereI NEED PENIS!
Wait how is this bad again?
>>575324048everyone dies for this world to get made and, AT BEST, is only a poor copy of the sky and astral realmthey dont go into it much in relink but the evokers and arcarum are all murderous psychos or stupid fucks and the replicard sandbox is full of poor imitations of existing primals (pale or grey skin, cracked features, etc.) and features of the current worldThe World basically wanted to make his own cool realm with blackjack and hookers but the blackjack is rigged, the hookers all have diseases and it will kill everyone upon coming into existence
>>575320574I was thinking about trying him. What made you not like him in ER?
>>575324795I'm not that guy but I didn't like Vas much in Vanilla because I never gave him a proper chance but am loving him in the DLC. His immortality is even better when bosses have so much faggotry now and the charge speed stacking makes it pretty easy to stay on bosses. If I can fucking Ghandagoza the End-Game Infinity bosses you can Vaseraga the DLC.
>>575324048because Fraux suddenly remembered that her gf existed and would die as well if she went along with the plan.
>>575324795I'm mostly just not a fan of his combo 3 finisher, in the base game he spammed his combo 2 which had a huge range and he stepped forward during it giving it a pretty good effective range even if a boss was moving, his combo 3 finisher just slams down infront of him and if a boss even flinches wrong it'll probably miss, and its very punishing to miss since you will likely struggle to get your undying buff back up in timeprobably a skill issue on my part but ive spent just about every fight ive done as him snacking on the critical bar for half the fight and the other half im probably whiffing my attacks, might try to get better at him another time though because i really loved him in the base game and dont want to just drop him
>couldn't turn bea mode on the clock ONCEthis was legit pathetic and miserable.And i didn't die once too
>>575326427Essence is for training dummy showcaseInfinity bosses have too much downtime to On the Clock work consistentlyInsight is the only really viable trait for Bea
i just had a world run where the world was leaving death purple pools. howd that happen?
>>575326870someone not attacking death card when he prepares 3 big card on the corner
>Song was constantly on the floorSomethings never change no matter what.
>>5753274064 armpit sluts
Yep, Essence trait is not playable in actual content>skill issue etc etc
Lv 15 supp wrightstones just dont exist
Breeding Fediel
>>575326870mechanics
>>575328251No they exist, they just look like this
>>575328127It gets worse the higher your party dps is
>>575328251i jus tuse potion hoarder on my wrightstones since sigil booster
>>575326427>couldn't turn bea mode on the clock ONCEI don't believe this anon you need some help or something?
>>575329636that shit world kept going bloodlust or doing time wasting crap like summoning cards and other shit EVERY FUCKING TIME I WAS GETTING THERE SO literally never hit it once under the full clock mode
>>575329749I just did a couple of World runs, too, and was in gold clock probably 60-75% of the time farming MVPsI'm slightly hesitant about giving away any gold clock strats I didn't realize people were finding it so difficult to use...
>>575330030i straight up don't believe you
>>575305251>I get to be myself AND fuck fediel
>>575308571if this had been Precunny Re:Link and they failed to make princess strike build overpowered as hell I would've chimped out
>>575330063idk what to tell you anon
>>575308571for me it'd be dragalia lost relink
>>575331012>PCnice dodge + guard window mods and cheat engine'd build. daily reminder to not trust literally any screenshots from faggots who are not certified PS5 players because more than likely they're using cheat of at least some sort.
back to /mhg/ you aborted failure.
>>575326759Skill Chain is for the type of man who knows how to have fun and is the exact type of man Trixie would fuck
>chink fediel>has full SBA 5 seconds into the questI don't get these people
Is Eustace's fast lane dodge just completely broken? It never triggers a perfect dodge.
>>575334197Okay, but what is the relevance of this kot?
>>575335702Cause it's not a dodge?
>>575335806>A quick dodge that can be activated up to 3 times in a row. Dodging a hit with perfect timing fills the Loaded gauge.I mean it never procs the gauge fill you nigger
LOWTIERGODS
>>575335962Well maybe next time try saying what you mean instead of getting mad other people can't divine what you think you inbred retard
>>575336510Anyone that has used the skill knew exactly what i meant fagot
>>575335725MwyellYou syee
>>575336510Maybe you should stop trying to talk about shit you obviously don't know anything about.
>>575336852I dyon't syee
>>575337040Mwyell...
>charge attack upDoes it work for Mag's finishers?
>>575338510Dunno but it's not cap up so it won't add any damage
>68 hours played>still nowhere near Endless Ragnarok content
Maglielle's gameIs that cheating to farm slimes with superior party?
Tier list(dps)?
>>575340839Who you like playing as > who you don't like playing as
Battle Hymn needs its duration doubled.It takes forever to cast for some reason, you need to dodge cancel it too but not too soon or you waste your cast and have to do it again.And it seems to only last like 10 seconds when it is up. Why?
>>575340697It's just slimes. It's there for you to grind.
How is awoken stinger for AI Siegfried?
>>575341609Bretty gud. Better than Defender since AIs have less need for big HP numbersStill loses to Ascension though.
>>575341773>AscensionI still can't awake it
>>575340839F*dielP*rcivalVaser*ggerThe rest
>>575342000How's vase holding up when everything moves all the time?
is there a definitive list of what every "ATK" pick ACTUALLY does in master style trees? i.e. are they under-cap ATK or some hidden post-cap bullshit that's been mistranslated? someone last thread discovered that one of those ATK increase picks actually flat out increased the base damage of Io's skill. now i have to go through every single one of these fucking +ATK choices against the training dummy to see if it gets capped or not... and then repeat the process for every fucking main characters i have. wording clean-up patch cannot come soon enough. what the fuck, cygames?
What's the optimal AI team roster?
when beel does his back to back giant fuck you beams how are you supposed to dodge the 2nd one
>>575342124He has unlimited gap closers so it's only an issue when they actually dodge out of your attack, which is more of a skill issue situationI think he's broken as hell, personally
>>575342254bea anus sniffa
>>575342457The one after his dance phase?to dodge the second one you just run to the other edge right away, it's easier than the first...
>>575342915i never seem to have enough time to reach the other side before i get blasted, even if i use a dashing skill
>>575342976are you talking about DODGING or moving out of the way I don't think moving out of the way is possible so I just try to time the dodge
How do I into Magi?
>>575341009A lot of buffs need its duration massively increased. 30 seconds as a bare mininum.
>>575319607Based grandpa
>Buffslut cag inflating my dps numbers and also ensuring i never die with her perma shieldsDamn, I need a buffslut cag to always run infinity with...
>>575342976If you actually wait at the end of the first hit instead of running way to far away for no reason you can sprint back comfortably. the only trick is going in a straight line
>>575318619On PC I just set up a macro that continuously presses forward + Lock on, so my character is always moving ahead and towards the boss, even if the boss is not target-able for a moment and your character runs into the wall as soon as the boss re-enters the arena the lock on will immediately turn the camera around towards it, it just works, I have my Io AFK farm like this
You have to really, really, really like Rosetta to play her in this game, holy fucking shit
How do you make tank siegfried work? it seems impossible desu
>>575343445okay maybe im just more retarded than i thought, ill try not to be next time i fight him
>>575343357>bea with 10k likes
>>575343787In theory, stack hp and regenI'm also 95% sure you can still block and iframe hits you take via substitute
>>575343204Fling swords, hold Y during your combo finisher to guide swords and get enough hits to make them lock onto your target. Fling more swords while locked-on swords are shredding target to build gauge. When gauge full, piss swords with Y and perfect release when it empties to get gauge back. Repeat.I've seen a lot of people complain about her combo finishers being too hard to understand but she's probably one of the easier characters when done right.
how come no builds seem to use celestial incendo when bosses are in overdrive like 90% of the fight?
>>575343204Press XXXY for your main damage combo, hold Y at the end and move the cursor around the enemy until the blades turn pink and release on their ownPres XY if you want an easier to control combo while building up meterDon't use XXY, it's slow and feels like ass to useWhen meter is full (or right after a Link attack) hold Y and unload your bladed machine gun. Release Y right as the gauge is empty to refund some of your gauge>>575343330For real. Battle Hymn's best use case is to pop it right before Link Time to maximize Blade Dance, but even if you do that it will expire halfway through Link Time.
>>575344281most of your damage is coming from breaks, link time, and sba stuns (which I think also put the boss into a break state?)i guess if its one of the weird bosses that are just perma overdrive and cant be broken you could run it but that seems a little silly still
>>575344281Because it's just another +50% cap, unless you've already maxed them out just use another basic sigil.
>>575344281Because unlike Ventus and Aqua which are direct boosts to your damage, Incendo is only an increase to your already bloated damage cap. Lumen is better than it in most situations and even, god forbid, terra could be better.
>>575344034it's edited for sure
>>575344281>There's no space for it>Running a flat HP sigil of all things is better value since its 40% cap that's always active as opposed to 50% cap that's only active sometimes>When bosses are in Overdrive, they take reduced damage and also nullify the bonus damage from buffs and debuffs, so that +50% cap isn't as strong as it looksIf you're doing like a no damage challenge run of a boss and didn't have any need for defensive utility sigils whatsoever, I could see there being room for it. But even in that case, Terra has higher priority.
I want to build a support character, who do I go for?
>>575344218>about her combo finishers being too hard to understandKekLike you said, you need to lock her finishers onto your target and get enough hits for them to shred a targetIirc Finisher 1 - activates immediately when it touches an enemy. Easy to controlFinisher 2 - 7 hits to activate. Be awate that the centre doesn't hit small enemies. Easy to controlFinisher 3 - 5 hits. Awkward to control in the beginnigBattle Hymn reduces number of required hits by oneThere is a hidden mechanic of her veil attack. If you let the button right after she flashes (she does it 3 times and each times she gains more swords which she throws when you let the buton), she restores some good chunk of the gaugeHonestly, she is pretty easy to use and I like to play her when I don't want to try hard.
>>575344218Does the gauge consumer count as a charge attack for Steel Nerves?And it looks like she'll want all 3 of her personal sigils?
>>575345346Cag or Rosetta
>>575345346Cog, feed me shields please
>>575319607yeah lancelot has bad dps
>>575345570Isn't support Rosetta kind of donkey dong because of how buff and debuff interact with overdrive?
>>575345504She doesn't need Bladequeen's Serenade
Bea is so cool and pretty...
>2 insects AFKing on a boss in infinityWish there was a global matchmaking option excluding the country of bugs.
>>575345992yea, that's tru
Did they run out of budget at the end?The final boss felt very underwhelming.
>>575346565>at the endBut that's where all the budget went
it's uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2yMcS7U7Lc
>>575346668The budget went into Pepsiman and FKHR's favorite brown homoHexa is half assed
>>575346565Which ending is that?
>>575346565Didn't they mention that they'll be releasing a harder set of bosses in the near future much like how Zero came later?
>>575344360>Don't use XXY, it's slow and feels like ass to useI think it has it's uses, but more so as an unenhanced finisher that you can throw out without thinking because it autolocks onto the nearest target available. Very good for the last bit of slimes. Not sure if the intention is that it does more initial stun when the swords collide on a target since XXXY seems to cover most bases.>>575345402>If you let the button right after she flashes (she does it 3 times and each times she gains more swords which she throws when you let the buton), she restores some good chunk of the gaugeI actually didn't realize that the whole time I've been playing her, good to know. Now I can dip out and save gauge when Bubs leaves.>>575345504I don't run Steel Nerves myself but it looks like it? Ran a few tests to check and I took reduced damage with Steel Nerves on, with more reduced with Steady Focus + Steel Nerves equipped. Would probably work better with the Blade Dance tree since Shield tree wants to avoid getting hit at all costs. Personally I do run all three of her sigils but Serenade can potentially be dropped if you don't care about the minor skill CD reduction.
>>575340979This old man WILL get pregnant
>>575347131>half the fights is adds>most the adds are just recolored versions of each other>they just copy the base dragons skills>the only part where you fight the boss is literal griding against a wall>later he summons some angel thing to protect the wall>the reward is gear you don't need because you've beaten the game to get to this pointthe entire hexa fight is a meta joke and you can't convince me otherwise
>>575348230Looks like young woman
Does defy have better drop rates
>>575349701On certain things, yes.
playing DoL and imagining the player character as Fraux...
>fail no death The World again because one retard attacks the wrong card instead of the one counting down our deathsThere's always at least 1 retard in these runs to make sure I never get that trophy. Too bad it's not personal and everyone in the entire team has to survive the entire fight, no auto revive allowed.
wait is Zeta a shotacon?
>>575350421Yes.
>>575324795NTA, but the new fights are annoying because the bosses move like fent addicts. Even with Provoke, I still have a hard time getting the boss. While undying makes fights nice, missing your charged attacks is even more punishing since you miss cooldown reduction on your undying skill. You basically have to animation cancel everything to have 100% uptime on that undying buff.
Did cygames say its a success
>>575328127The World is probably the easiest of the Infinity missions to play essence though...
so is sandalphon actually interesting now that playing him isnt about spamming the ranged attack
>>575351468Not that anon but the only time Essence Bea is not good is against Versa and mainly because of the debuff immunity.
>start SBA chain when the next 2 characters are at 86%>think it'll be fine, if only one of those has uplift they'll only need to gain 1% or 2% by themselves in the next 10 seconds, anyone can do that>they both can't
>>575343357What skills are you running for Vas except for the Undying? Charge/Jammed/Stun Power ones?
https://www.youtube.com/live/yBT1cy7ROpI?si=UW8Z6t1NrdZqOQtR&t=10020What do I think?
since damage cap is so saturated now and 20% is fucking nothing anymorewould it be optimal to reroll the lv1 overmastery instead 3 and fish for some crazy bullshit like 3-4 stun rolls? idk how much of a practical difference in fights having like 380 stun instead of 320 might be for meeting checks and shit but if its a lot I might try and reroll my overmasteries
>>575351847either shit coding or poor copingKnowing cygames it's both
>>575351745:(
>>575347936What they need to do is release a zodiac expansion
>>575351745you fucked it
>>575350570any word from the Society regarding her predatory behavior?
Kind of a noob question, what is the max "number" of a sigilFor exampleI have Attack Power I, II, III, IV.Is there a max on that number? I don't know if it's wise to upgrade those instead of a capped one (not like I've hit a roadblock yet, still at extreme difficulty)
>>575352330It was right as the boss was about to go into a new phase, if either of them had gotten just 1 more % we would have skipped it entirely.
>>575352427V+
>>575352427V is the highest, if a sigil has a + it has 2 traits so V+ is the highest quality sigil you can get.
>>575352427You want Sigils V+Ignore upgrading stuff until you reach Proud which is when this type of sigils start to drop. Even then, am not so sure how the current progression works, due the DLC, but i can assure once you reach Endless Ragnarok the game will shower you with all the sigils you need you can synth whatever you want on the Siero shop.
>>575352229"complicated structure" might be a bad translation of complicated procedures every new waifu you add you have to design her moves, test her, balance her, add voicelines, add voicelines for other characters interacting with her, get art and alt skins for her, write her fate episodes, make her at least align SOMEWHAT with her gacha version, etc. i'm not saying that Cygames have been particularly good at any of those thus far, but even the act of rote checkbox ticking is plenty of work compared to other games
Is this good damage for a tank build?
>>575352296>he wants more zodiac shilling
>>575353376yes?
>>575351745WTF
Post a room. These randos are giving me headache.
>>575352925>>575352962>>575353010ty bros
>>575351745dont assumeif you dont see 90/80/70just dont
https://x.com/i/status/2081405419050680773it looks like most characters could get an invincible build with enough support
>>575355161you slot fof and find your dodge button and you're invincible, no need to jump through a hundred hoops
>>575355405No damage luci gimmick
>>575352224that honestly sounds like such an astronomical waste of time for little to no gain, i tried rolling level 1 for like 30 minutes the other day and only 1 time did i see stun power twice and it only added up to like 10, youll be rolling for ages
Retards be out there minmaxing their builds to be "invincible" just for bubs to rub his balls into their face and toss them off the stage
does guard payback or the other payback skills go pass cap?
>>575356010Yes since they're a buff.
>>575355845I always crack up when I see someone get dunked off the side from Raging Chain.>>575356010Yes, both apply an ATK Up buff to you.
When should I start unlocking the other characters to get them at their highest level and mastery?>>575340265But I'm done with grinding out the weapons and the characters and the conflux so maybe I can get the story done finally.
>>575357256chaos++
>>575357407Is it really just chaos++? I think my Fediel was higher mastery level than my Fraux, I unlocked both as soon as possible with their unique card.
>>575355161bea's adversity sigil really got the shit end of the stick. If it had a significantly higher damage cap, a 1hp bea build with invincibly high def might actually be worthwhile.
How do you get this many honors and still fuck up an ougi chain? Why is it always the narms?
>>575357550The absolute highest is if you wait until after the Hexa boss fight, and then they'll come at Mastery 20.
Can I just unlock characters whose unique sigils I get?
>>575359326you need crewmate cards
>>575359407I have those saved up. Didn't unlock a single one so far.
>>575359730what are you saving them for? youll get more than you need
>>575360057Saving them until I can unlock the characters at their highest level/mastery so I need to grind less.See >>575357407
>>575360509i suppose so.. though the grind between MR1 and 20 is far less than the grind between MR20 and 50+5, so its hardly a meaningful difference
When should you stop dropping the various crab sigils?
>>575359306Fediel is special cased to be ML30 if you get her naturally I think
What style do you want for AI Io? I thought it was magic chain but she never actually uses her skills and just does basics
>you can lock/unlock summons in the loot screen>you can also do it when trading summons for MSP>>You can't lock summons in the summons screen
man she's hot
>>575361203I got her at M20 from story progression, just prior to the normal Hexa fight.
>>575361473Same with sigils in the gear screenJust cygames QOL stuff
>>575348230I have never seen such a young man
Are skills not affected by suplemetary?
>unlock mastery traits to 30so am I supposed to spend the rest of my worthless life transmuting hp sigils now or what
>>575362734I'd save that as the very last piece of optimization you do.
>>575362734HPs and Stun Powers, yes
>>575362158Skill damage gets Supp Damage. The only regular instance of damage that does not get Supp is Rosetta's rose auto attacks, as far as I know.
where the FUCK do I get Grand Refinium IIs?
Are you supposed to be constantly switching the lock-on to break all parts?
>>575363820Slimes or Conflux.>>575364068If you're wanting to break parts for loot or side objectives yeah. Use any attack that has a high stun value to break them quicker.
apparently Katalina didnt even have a stand in the mobile game until years later? Why is she engineered to be the most boring woman in existence
>>575363820the dual Dragons fights, not 4D, are quick drop 15-18 per run
stop using slimes for anything at all you lazy faggots its not good for any resourcedump your fucking unused summons already
>>575365225It has a great stage theme though.
>>575365319you have the music on in a grind game?
>>575362734getting 4 blue or purple sigils is better since they add flat def which is additive with stout heart/steel nerve
>>575365372Yes, grubble has great music.
>>575365493>purple
>>575365027The game was a bit more "grounded" at the beginnings, Katalina very much suffered from pic related. The whole Ares arc was basically her struggling to keep up with the power creep of enemies and feeling useless.
you cannot AFK 4 dragons, the map is simply too big
>Want to run Fraux on the team because Tweyen is ass>Can't because my team is full of normal attackers and my summons all have normal damage cap up
>>575365839You can, the ice dragon is the biggest asshole since he keeps jumping back, but the other 3 are alright.
should I just fully max out stinger/stunner weapons before I move onto ascension transcending, they are very stingy with the ascension materials...
>>575366445to max, probably not until later, just get all the nodes
>finish quest>requirements for a new sidequest met>it's in the other town>take it an finish it instantly>requirements for a new sidequest met>it's in the other town>ad infinitum
What's your guys full offline full auto team? I'm curious what everyone is using.
I can't do it.Infinity Beelz is impossible with the quality of randoms. It pisses me off because I just know Hexa will be weak in comparison yet I need it for Terminus.
>>575366096Everybody uses normal attacks anon, just slot her
>>575367546Doesn't the majority of her damage come from skills?
when do you drop stout summon equips?
>>575367365Eustace + Avia squadA second rental Gallanza over Id if it's a boss that doesn't sit still like The World
>>575367525I don't think I've failed more than one bubs after my first clearI also only ever cleared faa once out of like 15 tries
>>575368223My first ever chaos++ luci kill dropped a berserker +50% attack cap summon, I'm so glad I don't have to fight that fucker ever again
>>575367365It's just 3 of my guys and a rental eustace. I happened to like eustace and it turns out he's a god at afk so it works out
>>575367525You know the drill, anon.Post the lobby code.
knowing that they were making a trait for basic sigils why did they not at the very least add a new sigil synthesis where you could keep the first trait or something, this is torture to do legitimately
>liming sucks I will just cheat in msp>queue up for slimes anywayWhy am I doing this to myself?
whyyyy does the matchmaking option for quests when it asks you to host only last for like a minute tops before the game decides it can't find anyone and asks you if you want to search again? also sometimes it gets stuck on the search and the cancel button just doesn't work?
>>575369308They should really allow to pick the result for an Azurite Splendor or something.
>>575369895Same reason it just stops and reloads everything to make you lobby host. It was made by retards
yeah making Essence work is just too much effort to make it stressing to playbest run vs the World with EssenceNo fucking way i can consider running this kind of Bea vs Bubs or FaaTime to try Insight
>>575370006its amazing how badly done everything outside of the actual fights is, baffling
>>575369308Im losing so many hours save scumming this shit. They need to patch some qol into this game before I say fuck it
Insight better but with Fediel i do 4x the damage....
>>575370526Luci is actually her best fight in Essence. You don't take any of the HP penalty debuff so you can afford to be more aggressive than any other character.
>>575369981yeah, that would be a very simple and easy solution
>>575369895>3/4, waiting for players>*30 seconds go by*>We couldn't find anyone lol try again?>1/4, waiting for playersI hate this shit so god damn much.
>>575369895Between this and Monster Hunter I am convinced the Japanese are incapable of making a multiplayer system that isn't massively retarded. They should cut the localization budget and use it to hire foreign teams that make coop and multiplayer systems for them instead.
I'm dropping connections midfight like a motherfucker Beelzebub. One fight timed out at the end, and another timed out during the midfight stun check. And I'm spamming the turbine Gallanza when Beelzebub does that long AOE charge, and the stun bar isn't moving at all. What the fuck is going on? I know it's not that hard to stun Beelzebub.
>>575373440I don't remember mh being bad
>>575370526I run Essence on my tank build and just turn my brain off
>Had a zillion fortitude crystal not two days ago>Today I find myself empty
>>575374043they cap at 999 tho
>>575373780>"Cannot join this quest until all cutscenes have been viewed"
>>575373440Japanese multiplayer runs on glorious fax machine technology
>>575374506Wilds and World are outliers. The other games don't do that dumb crap.
>>575374506Oh I forgot about that, prolly cause I never really joined stuff of the main story line
>>575374506can you even join randoms for the main storyline? i thought it was lobby-only
for nimble onslaught. do i need to dodge to get the sba gain and skill cooldown or its passive
>>575375346...
>>575375346You have to perfect dodge for the effect to trigger
whew
>>575377614grim
>>575377614That potato needs to be disciplined.
What should I put in the gamma/beta/alpha slots? I've tried to squeeze in as much damage cap as possible but I'm still hitting the dummy for 210%
>>575378879literally any white sigil will give you more cap up than thoseEven better if they have cap up as substat
>>575355161thats...thats just current basic potato build + lv 15 nimble..nimble gets less effective when she can't proc perfect dodge during that invincible duration
>>575379186It's the basic build for most of the cast with very slight alterations and a shit weapon imbue
there needs to be a better way to share these sigil builds i'm tired of trying to decipher these images
Is the special edition of ER worth it or nah?
>>575380486What is it?
>>575380486i got it because i have more money than sense, but it turns out i immensely enjoy the alt color schemes it's the only customization available at the moment and i say it's worth it
>>575380553Obviously the cosmetic stuff is subjective. ~15$ extra.
>>575380480The main problem is that all the damage cap sigils share the same basic icon. And they're almost always gonna be in the second slot so build screenshots won't show their names 3 DMG Cap sigils + Fatebreaker is a given though, so it just comes down to which Celestials people are using.
>>575380816If I got 15 bucks for grinding this crap I'd have made back the price of the game 5 times over by now
>>575380816>500 MSP>50 Crystal (smol)My, how generous.
Actually the wort character in the game
>>575381269damnand i felt useless as skill Trixie only pulling 250m max
>>575381269Oh, that's...That's not good, yeah.
>>575381269does she at least have party-wide buffs or tanking utilities? on no she doesn't lmao
>>575381690She technically gives everyone invincibility and a little bit of DMG Cap
>>575380486if you're on PC you can use cream api to pirate ER and the rest of the DLC
>>575381269You were probably trying to optimize your cycle, too. Most of these Kats only spam XY as if getting their Light Wall off is contributing anything worthwhile.
Which of these are the most replaceable if I need to slot in other stuff?>autorevive>guts>improved dodge>potion hoarder>uplift>nible onslaughtMy last handful of slots are always fighting over all these. I feel like I "need" them all but in the most murphys law way possible, whichever one I cut immediately fucks me in the ass the next quest
>>575381869guts and potion hoarder
>>575381269She isn't great, but the dummy score is particular unfair to her specifically. Because whenever you hit it, it fucking bounces and flies into the air and 75% of her combo misses it because its too high above her. I unironically over twice the damage I can if I just set the dummy to not be interacted with and set a manual timer for 60s outside of the score attack
>>575381869in order>autorevive>nible onslaught>improved dodge>guts>potion hoarder/uplift
>>575378758its the eustace that ate up most the bar
>>575381869I'd cut Guts and Uplift. You don't need three revive layers and it's fine to be the 4th member in the chain most of the time. Also you contribute zero DPS and build no SBA when laying on the floor.
>>575382049Dummy score is also really easy to cheese and inflate your numbers with by using specific skill rotations and sigil setups you normally wouldn't use in combat, so high scores just feel dubious at best.
>>575381823I always forget about creamapi, but I dont have the base game either. I assume the online is pretty key to this game from what I've seen, right? That's what I'm even considering it now instead of just waiting for a sale, I dont want the playerbase to drop too much.
While we're on the subject, how many of you play without improved dodge?Everytime I try removing it it feels so damn terrible, I just love spamming dodges
Is essence Ferry good, and if so do you use onslaught at all or just let the pets expire naturally?
>>575382815cream api works online, and also there's crossplay so you'll have no shortage of players if you expand matchmaking to all regions
>>575382845I do
>>575381869if you are playing essence bea, then you'll need guts, otherwise say byebye to golden clock. even if you're not in golden clock, getting KOd, even with autorevive, will remove your buffs and embrasque levels (but not devour causality)
>>575382845I do use it a lot, if not for the added dodges then for the added window you have to dodge something normally. A good chunk of characters benefit from repeatedly dodge cancelling animations so it's a hard habit to break.
>>575383708You could always try to think at least a little and not tank the onehit kills even if you play the unga bunga character
>>575382845My character has 10 years of endlag on most of her kit without dodge cancels, and often needs to dodge during her attacks to reposition/stay safe.I'll never remove Improved Dodge.
>>575384009>build up your unga gauge>waste your gauge by dodging instead of spamming bungaNot even once.
>>575384031stop that
>>575384031N*chang!
qrd on 1hp io
>>575382845I haven't played without it since Maniac.
>Fraux i need someone to test this in parallel. i'm either misreading numbers or this just flat out increases the DMG by 10% despite saying ATK in the name, tested on a dummy. i'm fully skillcapped (130%+) so it's not a cap issue.
LobbyW7RX UV1E 9EB5 4CXAPW - grind
>>575384031chocolate milk
>>575382845For most is peak comfort, for some characters is vital, then theres zeta or eustace who dont really need it
How much HP am I supposed to have at end game (infinity quests) without Aegis or Greater Aegis?
>>575386156200k is the cap for terminus
>>575351794Late reply but yes those are the skills I use.
>>575386156Anywhere from 80-160kIf you're not using Terra then you should have somewhere arouns 120-140k
fuck the terminus I want 300k hp
>>575292939Some anon mentioned Pilgrims of Self-Delusion, afk's pretty well from what I tried of it yesterday
>>575386156Somewhere between 1 and 999,999
BEA
>>575387243most stupid post in the thread
>>5753859711/4
>>575387726It's way to late for me, good luck
>Try to do versa to see if I can get a good lilith>2 Fraux>They both facetank the floor nonstopWhy.
>>575386156only rule is less than 200k for teminus, otherwise as much as you can get, usually with ascension weapon.That being said you can still get big value with 150-200k hp if you equip stout heart summon with steel nerves/stronghold.Another thing to consider is green pots have a heal cap that only increases from summon heal cap (might be a programming oversight), so if you go for an HP build you will still want defenses and regen/divergence.
>>575385965just tested and it's always the same dmg for me with it on vs with it off. did you swap stances maybe?
Fkhr gives you a call to choose which infinity boss relink should get in next update. Your job at cygames depends on thisIt has to be someone equal or more threatening than current infinity bosses either lorewise or appearence wise
>>575388715Diaspora
>>575388715Big Cag
>>575388715orologia
>>575388715
>>5753859712/4
>>575388715Versusia and >>575388874
>>575388715Make us her fight her and her chud dragons already.
>>5753859713/4
>>575388715Fun fact: Mugen means Infinity
>>575389483>you need to do all the labors before dealing to much damage or he will gigabuff himself and whoop your asswould be the greatest filter since final faa
>>575389483>spends half the fight floating in the skybox>the other half is screenwide AOE ground pounds
>>575388715Infinity Albacore.GATHER HERE YOU KNIGHTSSOARING HIGHER
>>575389483NEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
Ghanda might not be the least played character, narrowly lead by Eugen, Rosetta and Katalina, but I think Ghanda represents the largest disparity in effectiveness and play rate. He is honestly stronger than (most) of the cast when played correctly, with the exceptions being characters everyone recognizes will likely be nerfed or bugfixed in the near future.
I never get MVP
>>575388715Ghandagoza but without a DMG Cap.
>>575385971still 3/4
>>575390146If a Ghanda player is confident enough to show up in Infinity, that means he knows how to pilot the character and play the game well. Every Ghanda I've played with, both before and after the expansion has pulled their weight and then some.
My current team is Eustace and Io. Who are the other two I should build?
>>5753859714/4
They know I have cheated summons and sigils..
>>575390674Cog and Mag
I just tried Percy and holy fuck this gorilla is as braindead as Fediel. He's the perfect pick for a tierwhore who doesn't want to be called out for being a tierwhore, which explains a lot about many of his players, really.
statistically speaking which harvin is the highest DPS in this game
>>575390674Zeta
>>575390674You need some melee niggas
>inflict burn with fraux>it deals double my attack stat>inflict poison with tweyen>it deals double my attack stat>inflict burn with tweyen>it just my attack stat?????????
>>575391961give me a melee nigga that isn't cringe
>>575391721Box if you're good at parries and staying invincible
>>575392663Mr. Pigfried>CPU can take advantage of Perfect Striker and Warpath with minimal downsides>can slot in Mirage and Salvator for strong defensive utility without losing damage
day two. I'm still trying to get Fraux to work for me but its not happening. card flip delay feels sluggish and impossible to deal with when there's everything else going on on the screen. I constantly find myself over-flipping or flipping unintendedly all the time. I wish it had been a less stupid input like hold Y to flip instead of this delayed nonsense. I don't know why this system is ak incompatible with me because I can PE Sieg with my eyes closed.
>no lobbyInfinity grind 3AGX N71U CXHY JRT92/4
i washed my dick in the sink because my towels are in the wash. Is beatrix a good fit for me?
>tfw no sign of whether Catfood will make more outfits for the dlc girls
>>575394784His mods are nice but I wish he kept the original proportions, or at least gave an option for the changed outfits with vanilla proportions, his Io mod is great but he increased her proportions too much...
>>575394532Sounds like a Song main to me
is Zeta still all about loops or did her gameplay change in ER?
what are my 5 basics supposed to be, I guess 3 health + dmg cap, but what about the other 2
>>575396106One of her mastery trees gives skill reset when she lands that whatever hammer aerial finisher and two of her skills can jump straight into that finisher.
>>5753963963 stun + cap2 health + whatever
>>575396396Wrong! It's stun.
>>575396458>>575396470oh, alright thanks
>>5753963963 Stuns unless you've got stun on your wrightstone. the effect hardly matters at all except for stun
>>5753963963 stun. The other 2 are almost always hp, but you could also just not use the hp and sacrifice the 40/80 dmg cap in exchange for more utility/comfort if you want.
The basic stat builds are such a fucking meme. 5 wasted trait slots for 40 percent cap each, and you get like .5 percent effective DPS increase per 40 percent when you factor in all the other sources of damage cap you get. There's no way you aren't better off slotting in other stuff.
>>575397436stuff like what?
Bea does too little damage to not have better CCs or party wide support skills.
>>57539743640% cap up for half a sigil is still one of the best rates you can get tho?
out of these two who is easiest to play: bea or narmayai am fucking retarded btw
>>575397629It obviously depends on what character you play, but one sigils worth of Cascade is on average 20+ percent cooldown reduction on my characters' skills, Quick Cooldown does as advertised, and all the various defensive sigils let me facetank attacks which is more effective damage for anyone that has any sort of animation commitment setting aside the general safety it offers.
>>575385971thx homie no good drops
>>575385971ggs
>>575398112And you can get all of those skills with stun in the first slot!
The worlds long ass speech during his spinning orb attack is really funny to me
>>575394106is this still up i havent booted up the game tet
>>575385971ggs, got this at least
>>575397930Both actually require effort to play optimally. Charlotta plunger is what you want.
>>575398208Obviously there are lots of other unmentioned ones that I assume any build that is doing the basic stat bullshit already has.Celestial Ventus, Celestial Aqua, Fatebreaker, Spartan Echo, Berserker Echo, DMG Cap max, Supplementary Dmg max, Improved Dodge, Immortal Shell, Character Specific Sigils, War Elemental, Stoutheart, and all the various other ones that're considered more optional. DMG Cap inflation is very potent in Ragnarok and it should be a very low priority to drop a sigil slot for just 40 percent more.
>>575394784Lyra is kinda cute
>>575398538AAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE
>>575394784qrd on zeta. will i find her fun as a bea main
I just did a inf beelz where we didn't get a single link time because one of the retards were always either on the ground or off the map every time we needed to link attack for one
pls lobby after 20mins. im done eating
>all the women are hard to play>all the men are easy to play>all the women are worse dps wise>all the mean are better dps wisehomo game
sometimes you gotta get mean to get dps
>>575399065I really thought she wouldn't be interesting to play, because the way people talk about her makes it sound like her entire gameplay is just pressing Square at the right time over and over again to stay in the air. However, with ER I tried her for the Dragoon fantasy after playing Id the entire base game.Turns out if you choose her Skill focused master trait she turns into an incredibly fun character that revolves around doing her finishing combo moves as much as possible, because every time you do it, you get a ransom skill back. But then you build around skills that instantly let you do the finisher, and then you end up building your playstyle around gambling whether you can instantly get the skill to perform a finisher to then gamble for specific skills again.Basically, I have a ton of fun with it, but I haven't tried Bea yet.
>>575399501Seig Yoda Charlotta and Fediel prove this wrong
>>575399501what enjoyment do you honestly get from just posting incorrect things
I have no idea what skills to use on Magi besides Hammer and Gun, and the Invuln for shitter i.e. myself carrying in Faa.
>>575384009>You could always try to think at least a little and not tank the onehit kills even if you play the unga bunga characterwell in that case, you don't need autorevive, potion hoarder, extra hp sigils, damage reduction sigils, etc. Since you're apparently not getting hit at all. guts isn't just for one hit kills. It's so you don't lose your buffs or golden clock just in case you do get hit by a move that would normally kill.
>>575399813Skill build: Spear, Hammer, Gun, StaffShield build: Shield, Spear, Gun, flex
I'm bored.Tell me about your main.Why do you main them? What is your favorite aspect of them? What do you not like about them? What would you want buffed?
>>575399963Personally I dont find the staff to be good even in the skill build, the heals or shield are too weak.
>>575397930I play both of these characters and I can tell you narmaya is much more difficult especially if you play bea with the straightforward/default mastery trait
how is fediel played by AI
Does anybody know how burn and poison damage are calculated?
>>575400334Pilots it horribly, but probably still a top 1/3 CPU between finisher spam, buffs, debuffs, and fear.
>>575400473Something like 2x your raw attack per tick, so that's a use for overcapped stacking at least.
Who is the WORST AI?Charlotta does absolutely terrible as oen.
how do I ghandagoza?
>>575400612If I'm understanding correctly, does that mean I could/should replace my 2 HP sigils on Caggles for Attack sigils since that would help the DoT? I'm doing a sort of hybrid between support and debuff style with instant collapse charge
>>575400063I run Caduceus with my shield build for the shield regen ticks and picking up shitlords off the ground. It's a relatively short cooldown and even if I'm not getting the shield ticks, everyone else can use them too. For skill build I'd probably just do either Nachtmusik or Battle Hymn instead to get your gauge back quicker, Blade Dance IV and get your cooldowns refreshed.
>>575400063I mostly use it to stack or reset the duration on Arts Superior. Pop Spear > Gun > Hammer in that order and then use the staff right after Blade Dance IV goes off or if you see your buff duration about to run outThe revive utility on it is also nice to have
Hey
>>575400660Vane with Rampart.Without it he's just okay, but he'll use it on cooldown if he has it.
>>575400725There's a guide on steam, but it's out of date at this point because of Ragnarok.
>>575399993Beatrix I think collecting the green, yellow, red buffs then maximizing gold clock time is the funnest thing I've encountered in the game so far since I don't feel like playing my old main siegfried anymore>What would you want buffed?With how popular she is I'm just hoping she doesn't get nerfs at this point, but pausing clock during dodge phases would be nice. And then honestly she could use either a damage increase or some form of light support like a DEF down added to a skill or something, since all she has in her kit is DPS and it's pretty middling among the cast
man whenever this guy opens his mouth I roll my eyes. He's just the Anti-Spiral but really lame about it. "uuu constant evolution means constant imperfection, my world will be completely perfect without the surface dwellers uuu"
>>575401330i dont think he's meant to be agreeable
>>575401569thats not the issue he's just cringe
>>575401330He's cool because he's buff pepsiman
does supplemental dmg activate for skills too or just normal attacks?
>>575401330I beg you to not take anything written by Cygames seriously, they're the most schizophrenic cuckridden nihilistic shitfest I have ever had the displeasure of being subjected to
>>575401330>uuu
>>575399993Why do you main them? What is your favorite aspect of them?she's nearly the hottest possible woman and she's really cute on top of it. her mixture of timeless wisdom and utter ignorance combined with how curious she is about everything is very appealing and would make her easy to converse with for an autistic retarded weirdo like myself. she is also just a weird dork and I think that's very cute. liking the character I play is just as important to me as liking playing themshe is just super fun to use. teleporting through attacks feels good. the movement in her attack patterns in general is very evasive and using it to avoid damage is cool and rewarding. optimizing ball placements makes satisfying noises. she has a parry to sustain a supplementary damage buff. it's fun to use all the parts of her and make little optimizations for timing/positioning. no other character really does it for me like she does>What do you not like about them?I don't like how messed up the finisher spam playstyle is, even though it is itself also fun in its own brain-off way. it's also not working as intended, and I hope they change things to make it work as intended. lowered finisher damage by a lot in exchange for improving the claw stacks to make up for the base damage nerf, and encourage actually engaging with the mechanic the trait offersoutside of a character sigil she doesn't bring much utility to a team which is going to leave her pretty bad when she inevitably gets shot in the head. and maintaining that's still just a defense debuff. the black's blessing is similarly just okay. I only use petrify because it gets her into claws right away, the duration is so trash on any boss that's actually threatening. it is nice for farming junk bosses though>What would you want buffed?I hope they buff her actual damage skills so that the skill trait for them is any good. it's fun in concept but sphere of reversal can't prop up the whole trait by itself
>>575401872Both
for some reason I only have like 5 stun+ how did I get so cucked
>>575401330thats the pointhe thinks he knows more than god does about creation but he hires literal mass murderers and psychopaths to be bound to his gaggle of primals as the nexus of a new worldeven fraux calls him a dumbass after he monologues for 5 minutes nonstop
he gets away with it because his voice is really really cool
>>575401330
i really need a song mains help. idk why im do so little honors compared to other songs
>>575402895Do you have that one sigil of hers that puts random debuffs on the enemy?
>>575399993>Tell me about your main.Maglielle>Why do you main them? She's the closest thing I'll get to playing Haase in this game. Also she a cute and her being a floating weaponmancer is neat.>What is your favorite aspect of them?Gameplay wise? I find smashing things with Mjölnir to be very satisfying. I also like that she turns into a machine gun during Link Time. It's very simple but very fun.Character wise? I like her dynamic with Id and Gallanza. I like that she's the only person in the game who genuinely likes Siete because of their shared sword autism. I like that she's actually broke and loves pancakes. >What do you not like about them? I don't like how the shield build is leaps and bounds better than her other options. Skill Spam (Essence) is extremely punishing to play since if you whiff Blade Dance IV (which you will), you're dead in the water until you fill your gauge completely again.Blade Dance (Insight) makes your Blade Dance hit extra hard but you die if you get hit during itShield (Crux) gives you even more damage than the Blade Dande build but on all your attacks and makes you more durable. The downside can be easily circumvented too.What would you want buffed?Make the cursor on XXX[Y] less retarded.I don't mind it being harder to control, but sometimes she will do a 180 as soon as I hit Y and I'm forced to tardwrangle the cursor for 10 seconds while contributing nothing, that shouldn't be happening.Change the skill spam's cooldown cut on Blade Dance II and III to be actually worth a damnMake it so that you get the cooldown cut as soon as Blade Dance IV touches the ground, regardless of whether or not it hits anything.Raise the cap on her damage skills, or at least give them a bigger increase when using the Essence path.
POV: your game is softlocked
is it worth running supplementary damage sigils anymore or should I skip them for space
>>575403685ye but im not holding square just the triangle attacks. idk how some songs do like 60m honors
>>575400870Yes if you want to boost dot damage.Magic Chain Io also does that because she has a burn circle.>>575404202They're still mandatory, +20% damage that isn't affected by cap.If anything you can drop some cap sigils (not actual Damage Cap) since the stat is so bloated in ER.
>>575404202Because of damage cap inflation, Supplementary Damage is more valuable than ever. You should make sure you have Spartan Echo, Berserker Echo and lvl 45 Supplementary Damage before you even think about looking for more Damage Cap.
>>575402907>>575402147Gran is such a lucky guy...
Is AI Rosetta good? I think she's neat but I'm too much of a Beabrain to play her myself
>About half of the chinese players I play with are just cheatersHow is this even fun for them
What mastery style for Percival? How the fuck do you parry anyway
>>575405187>idk how some songs do like 60m honorsYou need to charge EVERY attack, basically padding with debuffs. I also think it's better for DPS that way anyway if you release as soon as the charge is finished
>>575407484Release the charged attack when you are about to get hit.I i think it might the easiest of parry moves, that shit has like a million of active frames
>>575407309You must not be very familiar with The Chinese
>>575407309they don't care about having "fun"
>insight Bea is consistent but damage is also consistent mid compared to others characters especially fediel>essence Bea potential damage is a lot higher but the trait is frustating as fuck to play>dunno for crux, havn't tried yetMan Bea is hard to play
>>575407619is her main dmg not coming from skills? clincher?
is Pigfried bogged? danchou tanks better because his Substitute comes with DMG cut and lasts longer, whereas Pigfried substitute is a secondary effect on his buffs at tier 2 traitsure he's got the damage cut buff too but it lasts for like a couple of blinks so you're forced to use the other buffs to keep Subs up, which means you're taking raw party damage up the ass
>>575407484Right now the one where his two buffs give a bunch of stacks is the best for raw damage>>575409769Isn't essence the one where you use sword and then proceed to mash sword several times to finish a loop?
>>575409951The real trick with Mr. Pigfried is to go half and half on offense and defense.Give him the Perfect Striker trait and slot in Mirage and Salvator. Also let the CPU use him
>>575410074>need to combo finisher for each colors>then need to combo finisher+power finisher ideally 3 more times but if make a mistake like changing clock accidentally or using a wrong normal combo string you just lose time and need more finishers>if you die you start over>when you finally enter bea mode the fediels balled the boss into bloodlust and you just wanf to ragequit as you spent all the time to setting up and then getting cucked immediatly
>>575409769im not sure insight is even that much less damage-wise, my dummy tests show only like a 20m difference for meregardless the pure consistent output of it will probably put it ahead in most fights unless your teammates suck and you have a crazy good gaming chair
any lobbies? the pubs are shit rn
Can anyone give me a qrd on siete? I want to try learning him
>>575410645Why does it sound like you are describing gold clock? And in what way is gold clock frustrating to play? You know you can do short combos for the three buffs, right?
Is there some sort of bug with the Hexa Infinity quest? The Critical Gauge keeps popping up randomly while everyone is alive and twice in a row the quest insta failed out of nowhere.
>>575399501Wahhhhh wahh
>>575410994 Endless summon grind2/4GU3A FX1N 7T3J 2HY9
>>575411489No that's the whole gimmick of the fight. You start at low critical gauge, lose more if you fail a trial, gain more if you succeed. You get a decent amount back when entering the Final Trial, but if someone dies even once at the start you're likely to fail immediately.
>>575411489Did you beat c++ hexa without clearing any trial
So what's the verdict, fully transcended ascension or terminus?
>>575411940Terminus still wins, but the gap between them isn't as wide as it was in the basegame
>>575411521i dont see it
>>575351474No sadly he’s just kind of dogshit now.
>>575411940Terminus unless you NEED >200k HP (skill issue).
Assuming stout heart and the trifecta on summons you have>12 sigil slots>which is 24 sigil effect slots>5 of them are taken by HP/stun power basics>6 of them on damage cap and supp damage (3 each)>3 on lumen/terra/ventus>3 on defensives (greater aegis, improved dodge, steel nerves, etc.)>3 on character specific sigilsFor a total of 20/24 what I would call mandatory sigils. That leaves you with 4 (four) 'free' sigil slots to work with now that the must-have stuff is out of the way. If you're one of the lucky characters that doesn't need all 3 character sigils you can get 1-2 more to work with, but not ever character can get away with that.So with these 4 free slots you have to choose between:>Autorevive>GutsBoth really strong, and almost mandatory depending on the fight to save you from random bs>Potion hoarderTechnically not necessary, but the amount of times I'm without this and take a hit here or there and have no green potions to quickly get myself above 75% for lumen probably costs more damage than its worth. Heals are just nice in general>upliftAlso not really necessary, but the amount of times I end up being 1-2% short of an SBA to followup, or don't have it to get that clutch SBA to push a phase or skip a mech hurts not having it. >nimble onslaught/nimble defenseVery nice QoL for thei nvuln duration>quick cooldown/cascadeVary in usefulness by character but nice to have>celestial aquafor characters that have strong link time or sba windows>dark pincer onevery nice but you are hard cucking all of the above to make roomWat do with these last 4 slots? Is there a good logic to it to know what I can afford to lose the most?
>Got game to play with friend>Thought it was like MH where you can basically co-op the whole thing>cant co-op the main story
>>575412340>terra>mandatory
>>575412380So like Wilds then.
>>575412340I always use Lumen, Aqua, Ventus and Fatebreaker. Tossing out Terra means you don't use Greater Aegis at all and you still end up with roughly the same HP. You forgot the weapon stone slots.
>>575412340>Terra>mandatoryI'd say the "mandatory" ones are Lumen/Nyx, Ventus and AquaAlso if you don't use Stout Heart you can free up another sigil slot with Supp or a purple skill on your summon.
I had Beel fatigue the first time I fought him I still have Beel fatigue I can't stand this atrocious fight anymore
>>575412380Engine limitations (somehow) prease understand
>>575411806>>575411879Oh that explains it. Thanks.
it exists
>>575413715Congrats anon
>>575413715>a low rollmight as well AFK the black dragon
WHY IS IT ALWAYS SANDALPHON?!I know shitters exist for every character but I always sigh when I see a Sandy because I fucking know he's gonna eat the entire critical guage on his own.
>>575412940>>575412880>>575412749nta but why is terra shit now? all the build guides were sucking its dick and I put it on all my guys
>>575415817The -30% HP cut is really steep and if you care about having an HP stat at all, yoh will want to use (Greater) just to offset it. Basically giving you an extra sigil slot tax just to justify using it.70% cap on its own sounds good on paper, but when you consider how much damage cap you get overall, 70% cap in exchange for gutting your HP/sigil slots makes it a lot less valuable.I personally put it ony AI buddies since they're good at not getting hit and don't care too much about losing HP. But for me, I'll stick with Lumen, Ventus and Aqua.
>>575415817cause without aegis it puts you below 100k.You are better off using that blue sigil slot on a steel nerves or stronghold to turn 150k into virtual 200k+
>>575416236>*(Greater) AegisHoly shit I cannot type tonight
>>575415817Your cap is already oversaturated that 70% only adds something like 1-2%. You can just slot some toughness and play like Bea instead of playing you're doing base game Zero all over again.
>>575412340each basic sigils gives 40% cap which is minor increase lategame so you can cut 2 of them and replace with more QoL traits>uplifti find uplift is meh unless your character able to SBA super early then still able to join full burst for real value (afaik only pet ferry and cog can do this, gallanza is a special case). might worth to slot in lobbies but pub rooms are so random that uplift usually sits down doing nothing>dark pincer/immortal shellthe value looks shit but then you realize +100% damage cap lategame loses to that thing. sucks that it has no + version but still instaslot for now you can drop autorevive and just insta rev pot when you die but i don't recommend this against luci because its the worst fight in infialso drop terra like others said its a trap sigil
>join pub Beel>see Chinese name ah, guess I cant dodge anything this run
why are all narmayas chink and why are they all cheaters
I am going to be afk-farming MSP non-stop for the next couple of days. And when I'm done, they better make Katalina not shit!
all chinese cheat one way or another, it's just how they playi miss the days when the great firewall still worked...
>>575416783>(afaik only pet ferry and cog can do this, gallanza is a special case)Maggie can do this too, provided she's not interrupted too much she can even get away with running Uplift 16.
I do not fucking understand bub's orbsRed, you block, yellow you dodge, no?Yet everytime I try I still get grabbed and hit for 1 shitillion damage
>>575417443near the end of the fight, he will do the orb move twice in a row, so you have to keep a distance until it is safe to resume dps
>>575417443Yes, but you can also be in the way of someone else's orb, blocking the line of Beel and the orb target.
>>575417443You can get hit by someone else's balls if you're too close when he throws them out or you dodge a yellow into a red.
>>575417157At least the game isn't F2P so we don't have to deal with RUS or BRs.
>trying to roll a specific warpath sigil with a not-useless secondary effect
>>575417710For bae I've got Uplift, Autorevive, and Quick Cooldown to choose fromfeels p good
>>575417710Didn't take me too long for most of my characters, though getting one with a specific trait is next to impossible.
>>575413715another one
you are not gonna believe this I just saw a KATALINA in pub Beel++and icicles kinda worked against Fabio
>>575417710Got Potion Hoarder on my main's Warpath.Useless on the AI, but perfect if you're playing the character.
>>575417443If you like holding guard during dodges you'll fail the check for using the wrong defensive option and get owned by it every time.
does anyone actually use summons?I feel like I never see them actually summoned in battle by anyone
>>575418692It feels like people are too afraid to pop out a summon because everyone's sharing the meter and they might ruin someone's strat, like how some players use the dragons to destroy both za warudo's cards near the end
does Fraux's "strength" count as both stances? I am wondering if all of her stance specific DMG caps are active during Strength since it's not a stance
>>575418692It's hard to tell at a glance if they're an effective use of my time, or if there's someone on the team who'd use the gauge more effectively than me (unlike SBA which is a personal resource).Like being the first idiot to throw out an SBA, I don't want to be the guy who fucks up the transition or burst phase.The gauge is out of my typical line of sight and the button combination is new and unfamiliar, so I tend to forget to check in the heat of battle.
>>575418692I use the Roulette if I need an emergency shield for MaggieI use Rolan sometimesI wish I could use the fish but the skills on it suck
>>575417710Thanks to all of my luci afk I was able to do several thousand rolls.I had to clean up sigils manually about 4 times.I got absolutely nothing.
Immortal Shell only loses to double Uplift if you play with comms and figure out the ideal SBA timings.
You would think Song's once per quest skill would do the highest possible damage in the game, but it gets mogged by nukes other characters spam freely
is there a good quest to farm grand refinium I?
>>575419629Slime
>>575417443During the tether attack you need to be mindful of where he is going to jump next cause you might jump in front of it. Being clumped together during this attack DOESNT not help
>>575419607It even has a fucking mastery tree dedicated to it, it is so ass.
>>575419607It's such a good skill they built an entire Trait around it!
>>575418692Equip bonuses ruined the whole concept
>>575419685>>575419734There's no wayDoes it let you use it more than once at least?
>>575419607it's like all the mastery traits were designed by separate teams who never talk to each other and were given different benchmarks to test against even within the same character there are traits that are like "why the fuck would you ever take this"
>>575418692I see the dragon being used in The World all the time, if you position yourself correctly you can use it during the scale challenge and blast both cards at the same time, and have enough time left to also kill the next 2 cards including the death one.
>>575420069
>>575420069No, but it charges faster so you can waste those mastery points even sooner
>>575418692I liked dicking around with them for killing blows on my way through the dlcThey don't scale with your equipment so by endgame they only really exist as a panic button or for uptime on messy patterns like Wheel of Fortune or The End
>>575418692I use the rolling croc one against hex's wall when it has that std cancer bubbles popping out of it and causes skill silenceI don't know how much DPS I'm actually doing with the thing though
>>575418692If I'm not playing a character that needs Stout Heart, I like to use the Seedhollow Guards that give Debuff Immunity
>>575418692I'm using them constantly but I'm still levelin up.
>>575418692I use them in za warudo, and I'm too lazy to change the summon position every fight I just stop using them for other fights
how do I view the loadout of a recently encountered player? I wanna see this guy's fraux to see if he's actually gud or just cheating
>>575421804online settings > player list
I don't mind cheaters when they help me grindI mind cheaters when they ruin challenging fightSimple as
Got myself a summon with Potion Hoarder lv.15 and Healing Cap Up +50%, that's a good combo, right?
>>575422226It's ok.
>>575422226Yes because it saves you a skill slot on your buildsHealing cap is also synergistic with potions
>>575422226Potion hoarder on summon is good, but it can be better on wrightstone since you can't get berserker etc on it
>-2% cooldown for one skillAre those mastery trait nodes supposed to be a bait?
>>575422887They're filler that never hurts to get if it's in a tree you're getting the perk for.Definitely not really worth taking with spare points though.
>>575421870no I wanna see the loadout not their card
When it comes to the endgame content, can it pretty much be done with any AI companions? Or are there companions that flat out don't work there?
>>575424016Good players > AI > shit playersThe only down part is you have to grind 3 more gears
I managed to keep sieg's autism stacks at level 6 for about 85% of the bubs fight, motherfucker. You fucking goddamn son of a bitch, fuck YOU.
Managed to clear all the Proud quests but I think these next ones are a bit too difficult. The PWR must be wrong for that Lucilius fight and the Eternal ones is even higher.
who designed Bubz fight who tested Bubz fight who greenlit Bubz fight this shit is pure cancer why did they think this was okay to release it like this i need to fap to de-stress like every other fight
>>575424849Least mentally broken Siegfried main
>>575424902You can go straight to chaos after protobaha I think.
>>575424902Proud Luci Zero is harder than both Chaos++ and Infinity.
>>575424902Slog and suffer through the siete and song quest and you'll get a massive boost in power afterward
by the time you get fediels crewmate card, is that the highest people will come at or should I wait before unlocking still
>>575424902Lucilius is a brutal fight, not just stats/gear check wise but for all those mechanics you gotta deal with now, it actually gets easier after that
>>575425150Actually I was forced to do Behemoth before the Eternals arrived>>575425231>>575425256I guess I'll ascend my weapon to the highest tier then try the eternals and go back to Lucilius eventually. Can you even dodge Paradise Lost?
>>575425784You can dodge paradise lost, takes some practise though and it's likely you'll still fuck up once in a while.
>At endgame, Supp V+ are way more common than Stun Power V+Shieeet... So where do you guys farm those sweet Stun Power V+ for synthesizing?
Fraux should take her shoes off
>>575426110Look for orange sigils that have Stun Power as a substat rather than the other way around
>>575426178This but Fediel and her clothes
>>575426385This sigil synthesizing part is gonna suck bad...
Why are Lancelot's hitboxes so hot fucking garbage? For a character who's supposed to be spamming X, that move has zero movement and the world's smallest hitbox. Fucking 'diles will move out of it with the smallest flinch.
>>575426856It's the same chances isn't it?
>>575427332I hope but that's not even the issue, it just seems like stun power is not that common, or maybe I'm only noticing now that I've reached the point where stun power(as a primary) is really important
>>575428151If you have a sigil with stun power even if its not primary, you can fuse it into a primary stun sigil.For example, say you have Stamina / Stun Power and Damage Cap / Stamina.You can fuse those sigils and get a Stun / Damage Cap.Now, it's random which possibility you'll get but you CAN save scum it.
>Some of the later Infinity Hexa DPS checks have the target crystal just floating in the middle of the other crystal's big giant tornado/black hole/other mechanicIs there a trick to these, or are you just fucked if too many of your party members are on builds too squishy to facetank the mechanic and die/run from it? I've tried throwing the gyres when they're around but it doesn't seem like they do massive stun damage or anything Also is there some bizarre minmax strat where half the party just ignores the text in the middle of the screen to attack the wrong crystal, or is reading just that hard? This shit is happening way too often for the (theoretical) endgame of endgame content
>>575399861>maybe don't facetank hits designed to oneshot>oh so you want me to never get hit?retard
>>575428650nobody knows what we are supposed to do in hexa fight since the first check is guaranteed to fail. But you can do 2-man SBA for the 2nd set to stall and hope it kills. Very poorly designed fight, if you have the dps to kill the main body quickly, it's easier
Just had a quick quest squad fail against the Ragnalia Infernodile.
>>575428529Yeah, I guess I'll savescum it, I was hoping I wouldn't have to do it but I keep getting bad results.
>queued for quick quest>hard difficulty quest with 3 newbies
>>575428959I think stun also clears the add?
Is fediel still the strongest? Did they nerf her balls yet?
>>575428909read the rest of my post. I put in that first part to mock that anon's response.> guts isn't just for one hit kills.since you seem to be illiterate.
>>575429414>It's not for [thing]>It's for [description of thing without using the name of thing]Bruh
Anyone with experience using a summon with this? I'm mostly interested in the partial firm stance effect, how useful is it?
>>575429635It works like a weaker version of all the other effect resistance sigils combined, including firm stance. It also works additive with those sigils, so having it+lvl 15 firm stance+lvl 15 poison resist+lvl 15 slow resist makes you unmovable, immune to poison and immune to slow.
>>575425709does anyone know
>>575429919is she M20? that's the highest crewmates come
>>575429910nice, getting 100% movement resist sounds really attractive for like...most ranged charas probably.
>>575429635I can dodge EVERYTHING so I don't need it.
>>575429635Seems like a very general solution for a problem that doesn't really exist in the cuent endgame. If you really get fucked over by some status it's probably a specific one you'd better use specific sigils against. Or just divergence since that's not a completely dead stat otherwise
I miss my FAT HP. I've been using terminus timmy setup but I miss my ascension weapon.
>>575430087yeah she is, cool
>>575428959First check is just a stun check, no? People just seem a lot worse about respecting it than the Faa one right before it for whatever reasonIt's the 2nd set that seems a lot less reliable in my experience, sometimes you get shit like >Defeat the Black/Green Crystal>The target runs to the other side of the map and wastes half the timer while everyone gets succed by the Black/Green dragon gimmick>When everyone runs over to the target, the other crystal shits paralyze/sandtomb AoEs on top of itand even parties that are good about hitting all the other stun checks fail it, not sure if that's intended to be a Veil or Firm Stance check or something
>>575428959>the first check is guaranteed to failIt's not, you can pass it, it's just very tight, there is also a bug where the game doesn't tell the player which fucking trial is currently active, and it's random on who gets it, so some player will instantly see "fuck up the (color) one!" and some will simply don't
Which weapon did you use for Mag until you unlocked Ascension Awakening?
>>575433107Stinger
>>575433027That isn't a bug. They definitely want you to play a guessing game.
>>575433232If it's by design then it is amazingly retarded.
Is awakening the Ascension weapon worth it? I know it's not the best weapon, I mean in the sense that does it give extra stats? Or is it better to save and just ascend Terminus?
>>575433761You awaken all weapons since they have collection masteries tied to them.
>>575433891good to know, thanks
>>575433761>>575433891Also you'll need to fully awaken it before you can transcend it as part of the DLC, and you'll need to transcend it because you can't fully transcend the Terminus until you've finished the five Defy Infinity quests at the very end of the DLC.
ONEGAIBAHAMOOTO>kill your FPS
>>575415817Cap too saturated right now. It makes less difference than being able to survive 3+ hits using a defensive sigil.
Building a Fediel to speed up the Lucilius/bubz grind, but I don't know how it works, anyone have a link or a guide for it?
>>575436992no, play someone else
>>575436992Build Insight. Pick everything that makes the finisher stronger or helps getting there faster.She has three skills that skip you straight to claws, which can be followed by the balls finisher. Pick all three. Last slot is the Atk buff, this one leads into stomps like the other four but is also a buff making it the most useful among the other options.
>>575437287I thought the after-balls aren't finishers?
>>575437190No, I don't think I will.>>575437287Got it, thanks.
>Stop building Fediel and Fraux for Narmaya>Get both of their Sigils in transmutationAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>575430568i wonder if it reduces fof dmg down duration so charged attack characters like io and ffv id can do an fof dodge and have the debuff fall off by the time they are done charging
>>575437851Only one way to find out
>>575437851I think self-inflicted status effects don't get reduced.
>>575439265yoda has a self-inflicted skill sleaed on one tree, and some nodes to reduce the duration so I assume those work. But that's dls masteries not base game gear so who knows
>>575422114So pretty much every challenging fight with PC players in lobby.The only legitimate way, where your achievements are worth anything, is to play PS5 with crossplay disabled. I wouldn't even trust my friends at this point. Fuck Cygames for not investing in anti-cheat or banning all these modding retards. I'd be ready for Kernel level anti-cheat just because I loathe these "muh grind waa" zoomers so much but I like the game.
>>575439574There is a sigil that makes you dizzy when hit, and using the sigils that reduce or make you immune to the dizzy effect don't work to counter it.
>>575437851>>575438914Just tested, and nope, does not reduce the FoF ATK down duration.
What master trait styles are CPU eustace and oigen best at?
The drop rate of Primordial Earth is so disgustingly low in The Four Dragons Quest that it's almost mandatory to get it from Conflux 5. Even when I lucked into a group of randos who helped clear the quest in 2:30 consistently, I still got 0 drops over several runs.
>>575441441The individual/duo dragons are better for those material drops. Same with other boss drops, doing multi-boss stages will drop way less for more time spent.
>infinity world>link guage is at 100%>i miss the quickening parry and get downed while someone else gets it 3 fucking times in a rowgomenasorry bros
>>575441441>I want a drop from a single enemy>quest that has the loottable of four enemies has shit rates for itWell duh
>>575441782Just pop your revive pot, no harm no foul.You did save it, right?
>>575441782>want to parry it>person in front of me did so the attack didn't reach me>he does his multi-lane quickening>parry one but get hit by the another anyway
Do Fellowship Fangs not actually drop from the multi-boss fight? Is the game just fucking lying? I repeated that quest like 40 times, did not get a single one of Maglielle's drops but when I did Maglielle's solo fight I immediately got like ten per run.
>>575441441The dual fights are quicker and give you way more
>>575442638>>575441815
>>575443315That's not the same thing. I saw drops from every other boss in the lineup except Maglielle. Not once did I get her drop and I've done that quest probably close to 100 times. It seems statistically improbable for that to happen unless there's something weird with how drops work in multi-boss fights or there's just an error with how they set her rates specifically.
>>575442638Always go for solo battles
>>575439673maybe you are just very unluckyfrom my parser so far only 1 percival that did it like i know he is a bug abuser but you can't convince me this homo casually reach 16m dps after the world fight ends despite i went zen mode never failed a single parry
>>575442310i ated them all...
>do CLOSED Quick Quest because bored out of my mind>Revenge of the Ooze
>>575445549CARVE YOA GRORY INTO REGEEEND!
ded gen, new thread>>575448983>>575448983>>575448983
