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lazy anons not making a new general edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>575138532

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
Skitarii Alpha Primus has arrived:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730
Patch 1.12.0 patch notes:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-patch-1-12-0-out-now-skitarii-later-today/122573
Kuli's guides for beginners:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210

Vermintide 2:
Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch notes:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528

>Also Exist:
Space Marines 2
Deep Rock Galactic
Helldivers 2
Payday 2
The Outlast Trials
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
Ready Or Not
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Remnant 2
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
Killing Floor 3
Far Far West
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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Dreg Shotgunner-sama... I kneel...
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lazy
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Darktide?
More like Dorktide!
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Worst fucking general on the board
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r8 no h8
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me build rate
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>>575309828
I'm guessing you use arc rifle and either the arc maul or shock maul? otherwise it's
B R I C K E D
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Playing with veterans as a Vet myself is the most frustrating experience I've ever had in tide games. They are all cowardly niggers who don't know how to frontline and work as a team.
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True Grit?
More like True Shit!
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>>575309828
slot an ability you lazy shit
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>>575310071
I use whatever I feel like using at the moment and tag everything there is on the map so my skull does almost as much damage as I do.
>>575311191
"No!"
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>>575311191
You don't need an ability if you're using noosy. It'll drain your capacitance anyway.
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it do be like that
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>>575309862
pretty good. The combination of both 30% quell speed + move fast on quell, seems a bit overkill. Do you really need to quell that much?
Other than that it's fine.
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>>575312005
Slow ass faggot thinks he needs to kill every enemy in an area before moving on. Move and fight.
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>>575309828
"i use the noospheric skull to do most of the work the rest is just basic melee and defense stuff" / 10
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>>575312185
Nah it was just one faggot rushing ahead and dying
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I've come to the conclusion Havoc level 20-30 is the hardest part of the game due to literal mouth breathers asking to join with blue weapons.
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>>575309862
>no unyielding on greatsword
>no revive speed
>going out of your way to path to a bunch of manual quelling shit when warp unbound is right there
>redundant blitz for the piddly flayer triggers instead of cutting down half the horde with assail
>staff shit nodes instead of malefic momentum, lightning speed, and warp splitting
>5% crit aura over literally the best aura in the game which would also indirectly give you more crits because your ability does that
>no empathic evasion
>reality anchor over precog
>warp speed when you already have mettle
>taking both lingering influence and cruel fortune instead of either just lingering influence or perfectionism and cruel fortune depending on point budget
start over
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>>575312934
>assail with electro staff
Retard
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when's fatshart announcing a new game, it's been 4 (FOUR) years already
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>>575312934
>>no unyielding on greatsword
what do you think the staff is there for
>>no revive speed
not my problem
>>going out of your way to path to a bunch of manual quelling shit when warp unbound is right there
with two +30% quell speed nodes quelling is bitching fast
>>redundant blitz for the piddly flayer triggers instead of cutting down half the horde with assail
I don't really use the blitz on this build so flayer is basically just free damage
>>staff shit nodes instead of malefic momentum, lightning speed, and warp splitting
no shit I'm not taking melee nodes, it's not a melee build
>>5% crit aura over literally the best aura in the game which would also indirectly give you more crits because your ability does that
scrier's is up most of the time anyway
>>no empathic evasion
just dodge, there's a button that lets you do that
>>reality anchor over precog
yes and I'd take empyric resolve too if I had a point to spare
>>warp speed when you already have mettle
gotta go fast
>>taking both lingering influence and cruel fortune instead of either just lingering influence or perfectionism and cruel fortune depending on point budget
I like to actually have my stacks stacked
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>>575313631
You will be punished. Another game mode for Darktide will teach you a lesson about asking questions like this.
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>>575312934
>no unyielding on greatsword
Why would he need it when he has spammable staff?
>no revive speed
not his problem
>redundant blitz for the piddly flayer triggers instead of cutting down half the horde with assail
he already has a ranged warp weapon, why would he need another one
>taking both lingering influence and cruel fortune instead of either just lingering influence or perfectionism and cruel fortune depending on point budget
what is wrong with this and how is your setup even better
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>>575313631
they have a shop now, they will not announce a new game until it's ready for release so people don't stop pigging
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>>575314238
>I like to actually have my stacks stacked
nta but from my testing cruel fortitude is pointless with lingering influence. Assuming you're playing a high difficulty there's no shortage of blue guys to kill. 10s is an eternity.
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>>575314835
>what is wrong with this
it's just unnecessary
i recommend going with one of pic related
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>>575315183
It's a two-edged sword. The higher the difficulty, the more there's elites, but it's also more likely that there's some big balls ogryn who just blows up all of them.
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>>575315526
electro staff can pick those off easily
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>>575315478
>50% stacks on the best keystone in the game is not necessary
???
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>>575315478
Oh wait nvm I'm retarded, I assumed he did the thing on the left
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>80 / 80 / 80 / 80 / 61
Is this rare? I know it's only a display bug but how special is this really
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>>575315689
that's... not what it does. Try reading the talents again carefully and make sure you don't get the names mixed up.
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>>575315951
it's not a display bug
it's 79.6/79.6/79.6/79.6/60.6
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>want to play the event
>retard goes down
>leaves
>other retard goes down
>leaves
>whatever, push forward on my o-
>disconnect, error 2014
I guess I'm not playing.
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>>575315778
All is good in the hood.
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>>575315617
Are you intentionally dense or just plain stupid? Is your skin a shade of shit?
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>>575316042
I thought it would get rounded up / down for calculation. So even when you get 80 in your 4 chosen stats it's not optimal because in the background it's a floating point value? That's retarded
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>>575309817
We aren't /gig/ or /hsrg/ or whatever other cancerous gacha general, though.
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>>575316707
i can't tell if you're serious or trolling
just play a few rounds with and without that point and you'll see what i mean
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>>575317112
>image
lewd
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>>575317250
I could say the same thing about you
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>start an expedition
>3/4 times some fucker joins late and just beelines to the extract or the door
>either dies alone or lures another retard in there
What causes this behavior? This is Auric as well so they should know how the mode works.
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>>575314238
I get the feeling you were looking for affirmation instead of a rating. Just skip the duplicity.

>>575314835
>Why would he need it when he has spammable staff?
That's not how perks work, the goal isn't to complete a checklist of different perks that cover the widest pool of enemies across your weapons, you pick the ones that play into your weapon's strengths and/or improve key breakpoints. Greatsword is really good into bosses and the perk makes you kill bulwarks in fewer hits.
>not his problem
Terrible mentality. There may be more to fix than just the build.
>he already has a ranged warp weapon, why would he need another one
They don't fulfill the same purpose. Electrokinetic is accurate long range dps and armour busting, assail is mid range horde clear
>what is wrong with this and how is your setup even better
When you spend the point to get more DD stacks per kill it increases the value of a higher stack cap and decreases the value of longer lasting stacks. You only take lingering influence if you don't have the point budget for cruel fortune. It's not rocket science.
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Mod that changes every occurence of the word Penance with Penis when?
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>expeditions
>snortis trials
>h*voc
where is chaos wastes? why do they keep trying to reinvent the wheel?
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>>575318241
>I get the feeling you were looking for affirmation instead of a rating. Just skip the duplicity.
If it was just a rating I would simply roll with it. Specific criticism? I will reply with my reasoning for those choices. I don't think that's a bad way to respond.
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>>575318232
why are you playing expeditions on auric
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>>575318009
Why are you even arguing? It's a free point for your build. You should be happy.
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>>575319095
that's fine anon
will you please change your DD setup so it's not retarded?
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there is no one playing kf3's top difficulty, it's fucking dead
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>>575319095
Your reasoning mostly boils down to "because I like it". I don't see much of a reason to rate or criticise that.
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>>575318972
not made by them and you VIL like what they want. For real I can bet weaves is a dev pet project and they are too cowardly to say no to Sven
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>>575320428
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>>575319621
The lower difficulties are boring.
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>>575320425
Most are probably leveling the new class I'd assume
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>>575309817
not even close but you know that
>>575313631
quite literally never in this current state, that UE game they had in the works has almost certainly been taken apart for assets and recycled into other things at this point
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>575320808
I am too. I'm level 28 gunslinger and there's no one to play hell on earth with.
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>>575320672
Kino
Which Darktide cutscene was this
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>>575322082
the one with Jim Carrey and Matthew Perry
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>Psyker self detonating himself and HIV scum who pushed himself off the ledge 6 times in a row
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should i be taking a stamina curio just for tranny blades
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>>575322658
Why would you need a stamina curio for the tranny blades
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>>575322076
Well I played like three rounds on normal and am at level 5 now but then I thought it's not that fun somehow so I stopped...
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How do I PBB Ogryn?
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>H40 almsot completed
>0down
>psyker kills himself just before the elevator
FUCK THIS FUCKIGN TRUE SURVIVOR TITLE I KNOW IM GOOD WHY DO I HAVE TO RELY ON FUCKIGN MOUTHBREATHERS FOR IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Why are shield niggas in darktide so much worse than shield rats in vermintide? Am I crazy or are they 10x tankier than they have any right to be, I swear I can't even dome them to finish them quick
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>>575323715
Fatshark gave them a billion headshot resist lol :) more HP than a mauler btw
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>>575323512
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a23d8efd-0755-40a5-80f8-fe59f8ed6205/pbb-ogryn
I'm not sure about carapace damage on maul but it seems alright
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>>575323791
why not "back off instead of the crit on luckybullet"
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>>575323761
But why? For what purpose? These niggers have been ending my ransacked runs more than surprise mauler hordes
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>>575322790
i use the push attack a lot
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>>575323978
Because PBB prints ammo and rumbler has decent finesse modifier
You can go with that though
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>>575324061
>prints ammo
>only gives half back
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>>575324027
I suggest you stop using the push attack and instead build 70% crit rate and simply light attack stunlock everything with the talent in the northern quadrant.
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>>575323998
Why? Sweden of course!
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What gun for Weapon's specialist vet? Seems like plasma gun was busted a few months ago but that apparently changed. Do they work for ranged enemies like when there is a sniper far away or am I dependent on a teammate to kill them?
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>>575324832
tranner said auto weapons
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Detective...
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>>575325418
welcome to Atoma
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>>575325529
>Double Tags You
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>>575324132
>7.5 base
>last stand relay 6 (16 on 0 ability charges)
>shred 20
>riposte 16
>5 on the weapon if you dont take 25% damage for some reason
where is the other 5/10 % coming from?
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>>575325704
Your true survivor title betrays your degeneracy
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>>575325838
8 stacks of SSS in Flensing for +12%
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Are Journey to the Savage Planet and Return to the Savage Planet any good?
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>>575324420
Why do swedes hate fun? It's like their entire motto in development is
>Have fun, but only in moderation. No that's too much fun
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If I were to buy KF3 it would be purely to play Gunslinger, and I feel like there's a 99% chance it's going to get nerfed. He's too stupidly strong.
I nearly bought into launch just to play Firebug, and that shit got nerfed.
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>>575326543
Basically self-hate is in their culture.
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>>575325850
Harry would 100% be a Psyker if he were in Warhammer 40k. Dude's one bad day from poofing Revachol out of existence.
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>>575323715
>50% headshot DR at launch
>reduced to 25% DR for dreg and 45% for scab
>also they aren't in the meat grinder so the average reject can't know how much hp they have to begin with
because fuck you
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>>575326916
REJECT
ARRIVING
ON SCENE
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Thunder Hammer is a meme on Zealot?
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>>575325350
Really an autogun? Does that mean the 33% crit rate buff isn't only for the next single shot? The keystone is really weirdly formulated
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>>575327802
yes, it's useless
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>>575327802
Its only niche is hitting 1-2 taps on bosses with/without an ability.
Relic blade does that better from stealth, while being an excellent weapon all around.
Thammer does fucking nothing besides its meme gimmick that it's also bad at. It doesn't even properly one-tap crushers anymore.
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>>575328548
What are good weps for Zealot? I'm reaching lv30
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>>575328768
TacAxe
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>>575328768
>thammer
Useless non-viable dogshit, power crept out of usefulness
>relic blade
S-tier universally great weapon with no real weakness
>heavy eviscerator
I'm not qualified enough to say whether it's good or bad because I hate the thing and would never use it. I hear it's decent. Definitely not top tier.
>knife
Excellent mobility, decent weapon, good bleed stick, viable
>dueling sword
Great mobility, great single target damage, trash clear needs some work but you can finagle a build together that does this as well. Quite good.
>crusher
Piss poor damage, stagger stick, excels at debuffing. Viable in havoc, but I suggest avoiding it unless you know what you're doing.
>dclaw
Bad on zealot
>tac axe
Pretty good but still struggles against armor
>chainsword
Very bad
>combat axe
Decent with FotF but also struggles against armor
>chaxe
It's alright.
>shock maul
Not good on zealot, use crusher for that role
>heavy sword
lol, lmao

Idk if I missed any I'm messing around with a different game atm
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is he right
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>>575329294
No he's a fucking retard.
VAG is basically barely viable in h40. What this guy describes is the only reason it's remotely usable. It's literally just a worse helbore, as far as roles are concerned, and the helbore is already fucking torture to use outside of havoc where you have no teammates.
The most I've ever considered using it for, is ammo efficiency on zealot in high difficulty expeditions, which is probably a unique sentence because nobody plays that. The regular old lasgun has better ammo efficiency if that's all you care about lol.
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>>575329294
Isn't vet's whole shtick is that he can make every ranged weapon work no matter how shit it is?
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>>575329625
You can't make Helbore work
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>>575329761
I KNOW IT'S SO FUCKING SAD
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>>575329761
*outside of havoc
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Ah, what a good start to the session.
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>quickplay
>looking for a game for a long time
>error
>ok lets try again
>join a game
>joins me into defeat screen
>cant exit it
..................................
I just want to play
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>>575329921
*and use 3 different mods to make it not dogshit
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Does anyone like the regular shock maul on Arbites, I have been trying it out in hopes that it works as a higher damage skullcrusher stick than my beloved crusher but I am not having much success with either mark, it seems like it gets overwhelmed too easily compared to the crusher which can spam those wide pushes into heavies extremely safely, and obviously gets outdamaged by the arby maul on any build that doesn't care about applying skullcrusher
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>>575332073
I should try the crusher again, which path you go? Slaughterer skullcrusher crit skills?
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>>575332496
You want martyrdom with it, without the attack speed it feels miserable.
Also the attack speed allows you to spam the weapon special to apply skullcrusher faster.

If you want to spicy with it, you could change out Slaughterer with Thunderous, which would then allow you to spam both brittleness and skullcrusher onto enemies with each explosion you do.
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>>575322438
>HIV scum who pushed himself off the ledge 6 times in a row
sorry but yeeting off every ledge with the dodgemaxxed hiv cum is just too fun

I'll take the occasional archivum sycorax final run instadeath for the absolute godlike feel of flying across half the fucking arena
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>>575332496
>>575333502
For zealot, yes slaughtered skullcrusher martyrdom is best for sure because of the attack speed. For arbites, I just take all the stagger skills and knock everything on its ass and drop an aquila/dogsplosion when there's an bigger problem. I am kind of torn on whether I should keep using the push cleave node since the crusher's best attack is probably the push attack, but I don't think it's really that big of a difference.
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Ogryn needs another rework.
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>>575335246
nah just needs a few tweaks
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>>575329174
>universally great weapon with no real weakness
*7 vanguards spawm in front of you*
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Aura, Blitz, Skill, and Keystone primary nodes should be free spaces; Freeing up 4 points for every build.
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>>575335246
We hear you! Ogryn WILL be nerfed in the next patch!
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>>575336051
Yeah the relic blade just cuts through them just fine along with everything else. It just stops cleaving after like 2-3 of them but that's when you make the single target combos.
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>>575336121
everyone should get a free floating point at level 30 that can be placed anywhere in the tree but can't act as connection point for other nodes
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Everyone should get a free government issued gf
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>>575337168
Coop games?
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alright, I give up
after playing kf3 free weekend and getting gunslinger to 29 and playing a few hell on earth difficulty matches, I can definitively conclude that kf3 is not a fun game
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>>575336149
in auric psykhanium even with 5 stacks of wrath it doesn't cleave any of them if it clips even a pixel of shield
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Is there a comprehensive list of every cosmetic that can be available in the cash shop including the fomoslop on weekly rotation?
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I can play Ogryn and Arbites but I die so fast with Veteran. Skill issue or are they just squishy?
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>>575338207
Sex is a cooperative game.
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>>575341075
I only know of this
>>575240957
>>575241589
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>>575341128
They are the squishiest class. If you ever get hit without full toughness you basically die. Ogryn and Arbites on the other hand get way more toughness and tanky perks.
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>>575340934
Okay stop hitting the shield
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>>575341075
Yeah, I'd say just grab that mod for displaying it in the cosmetics menu.
No clue why that isn't a part of the base game, since you'd think part of the rotating shop formula is someone seeing something they want and be itching for the day they can finally buy it.
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>>575338207
Yeah, the gf is an invincible companion like arbitrator dog or skit skull.
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>>575341317
That's good to hear but also really bad because it's probably the first class most newcomers try out. It just looks like your standard soldier class
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>>575341639
does it come in male colors
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>>575341478
>No clue why that isn't a part of the base game, since you'd think part of the rotating shop formula is someone seeing something they want and be itching for the day they can finally buy it.
Probably too complicated for swedes to code. But you'd expect Tencent would mandate it.
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>>575341708
The class still has some niches it excels at like grenades, sniping specials, ammo regen aura, and gold toughness shouting, so it's good and fun, it is just more of a squishy backline support class that should not be getting engaged in melee often.
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>>575341827
>too complicated for swedes to code
Who cares? Just copy what the mod does into the game, what is Alfthebigheaded on Nexus gonna do? Give him an icon frame or a unique "Warband Contributor" title and he'd probably be ecstatic.
Honestly, fatshark could do one of the biggest QoL patches of all time by just grabbing a handful of mods of Nexus and implementing them in the base game.
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>>575341365
even when I line them up neatly they keep bobbing and shaking up and down so you can't cleanly cleave them
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>>575341713
yeah but its cash shop only
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>>575342125
Weapon's specialist is quite fun, I just get too much damage
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>>575341708
they start out in malice so it's whatever

the problems start when you reach damnation and haven't learned basic melee self defense, even small groups of poxers can run you down
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>>575333502
something like that?
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>>575343594
Yes.
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>>575345796
do I HAVE to go for the charge or do I go book? Am also not sure if I can go to the melee left nodes after the toughness floor
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>>575326456
What are those
>>575326916
I think he’d probably be a sorcerer honestly
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>>575345963
If you're playing havoc, you go with book. If you're playing aurics, just use FotF.
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>>575341229
That’s no game anon it has some very real potential consequences
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>>575346242
not if your government issued gf is male (as would be expected from fatshark)
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>>575343594
>>575346209
Personally I don't like running book with marty but if you want to go that way you should at least pick Martyr's Purpose instead of Invocation of Death. With Crusher and without FotF you won't get consistent enough crits for it to be worth.
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>>575346776
SWEDEN YES
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>>575322082
its the one that plays after you get raped in havoc 12x in a row and then still log in the next day to play again
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>>575341229
Wrong. Sex is a competitive game and therefore does not belong in /coopg/.
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>veteran isn't muted
>complains on multiple occasions how we leave him all to himself as he dies to some trash mobs while we do the objective
>always gets caught by a mutant
>gets netted
>whines how can it be that it's always him and never us
Mhhhhhh WHY is it that you are the only one who gets caught in this shit? I sure wonder why they only focus you bro. They must hate you!
I don't think he knew he was unmuted because he didn't talk in English but unlucky for him I understood everything lmao
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did tranner quit darktide entirely? what happened? i wanted to see him complain about skitarii because his unrelenting negativity is generally honest
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I just got a veteran who only used ranged. Exclusively. No matter what.
Why?
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>>575349035
he somehow managed to piss all sides off, almost impressive
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>>575349524
Why not? Survivalist and shock trooper can stretch your ammo pool over the entire mission and some guns like recon lasguns are very competent at close range and horde clear.
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>>575349552
i did think some of his advice wasn't shit so thats a pity
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>>575349921
I feel like he had a few competent people on his groomcord or clique but either these left or simply lost interest on darktide. I remember him hating uncanny strike or the smoke nades
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>>575349035
recovering from surgery and doesn't feel comfortable making videos right now
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>>575349793
Because he went down like 8 times. Twice doing the final event.
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>>575350107
kek
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Hypothetically speaking, what would be the most optimal builds for speedrunning and abandoning the rest of my team like a total fucking douchebag? The only successful speedrunner I've encountered in a game was a shroudfield zealot so I guess that's an obvious one, any other good options?
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>>575350216
if he is shit he is shit
theoretically someone could use nothing but a gun the entire game with a dozen caveats
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>happily slice and dice horde
>let's mix in a few (meaning 500) vanguards hehe :)
>now I have to switch my tranny blade to deal with these niggers
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>>575349035
Last time I watched any of his stuff/checked his channel, he mentioned something about a health issue. What it is, I don't know.
Probably something to do with that.
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I sometimes feel bad for people who go down like 4 times
Like it must suck to feel that way
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>>575329761
>>575329921
>>575330971
how? i can 2-tap maulers on helbore and maybe 3 on crushers if I crit.
i got through havoc 40s with it, works on my machine
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>>575353519
Helbore is great in havoc.
It's not usable in aurics because you have no teammates and are now hamstrung by having a low-ish DPS gun with horrible equip speed while an endless stream of poxers comes to harass you.
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I don't like the zealot's flamethrower, it's too slow
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>>575329174
>>heavy eviscerator
>I'm not qualified enough to say whether it's good or bad because I hate the thing and would never use it. I hear it's decent. Definitely not top tier.
at least you're self-aware enough to say you don't really know
eviscerator is top tier with martyrdom
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>>575353947
It's definitely not top tier because martyrdom isn't top tier. I'm talking across all difficulties here, and both martyrdom and eviscerator kinda disappoint in havoc. Also, assume that someone asking this is a noob. I wouldn't make a noob play martyrdom because it teaches overreliance on wounds and may not be fun with retards who won't pick him up when he makes a second mistake.
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>>575353624
vet's always meant to be a semi-backliner class no it's not much a surprise that getting harassed means your effectiveness is lowered
there's also the fact that literally not happens in auric so scaling into executioner stance to do high single target damage to kill the two and the one-sixth gunners that spawn in maelstrom isn't really worth it compared to a more independent and flexible vet like double barrel.
it shreds on gunner seeds though, if not dreg seeds. i remember doing like 2mil damage and ~150 ranged elites while the rest of the team sat in the corner like cucks
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>>575354134
>b-but it's not viable in havoc
Just don't get hit, y'know? You know how to do that, right?
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>>575349524
What difficulty?
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>>575345995
>What are those
A couple of co-op games. To be perfectly honest I don't really know what they're like, I've been trying my best to go in as blind as possible so all I can think of is that the trailer vaguely reminds me of Ratchet and Clank.
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>>575354638
That's not what I'm saying, tranime nigger. You're just going to continue baiting with nothing to say so this conversation is over. Neck yourself, tranny.
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>>575349524
I've seen it too, they just backpeddle away from teammates and into hoards while blasting at poxwalkers with his autogun
Just assuming he comes from another shooter, like Destiny and doesn't really grasp the combat loop of the tide games (my dad is the exact same way)
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>>575354737
I'm not baiting. Eviscerator with Martyrdom is very good.
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>>575354670
Damnation
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>>575354953
Declined, solo tard
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>retards shoot everything I'm about to kill in melee
>They take 3 centuries to shoot any specials
Niggers, all of them
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>>575355132
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>meleeing round a corner
>kill a silent burster causing teammate to instantly die
>'Thank you'
>leaves
hehe
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>>575350908
Stealth is effectively mandatory for this technique, so that leaves infiltrate vet. Vet is better than zealot at clearing the hordes that ball up behind you thanks to infinite shredder grenades, but your sprint speed without stamina being 50% as opposed to zealot's 75% is a huge downside.
Also if it wasn't obvious combat blade is the no brainer pick for your melee because it makes you sprint faster while holding heavies.
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>>575350908
>play arbitrator
>rev up your sword then swap cancel and rev it up again
>sprint slide everywhere
>start shooting at anything when you need to close distance
simple as
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>me when I watch human on xenos porn
I'm not a coomer. It's my duty to the Emprah!
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>>575354737
Martyrdom is 100% viable in havoc and arguably zealot's best keystone even there.
Not doing well with Marty on zealot in havoc is purely a skill issue. You literally get invulnerability for 5 seconds every 2 minutes and get to recover 25% of your health back as well, and if you somehow cannot survive for 2 minutes in havoc 40 without taking damage, then you're just plain fucking bad.
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>>575349524
I got him again.
He did it again.

Is it okay to block him over this? I feel kinda bad, but come on.
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>>575353519
Helbore only works in havoc because in havoc 40 you are practically glued to your team mates 24/7 and every team brings a taunt ogryn which pulls aggro for you and lets you do your job unmolested.
And you basically have to constantly use the gun and not switch to your melee because re-equipping the rifle takes 2 business days.
And the gun is clunky as fuck to use if you aren't using at least 3 different mods to make the gun not dog shit (this isn't a joke btw).

And even then the helbore is actively competing with shit like boltgun, bolt pistol, plasma and even the OG revolver if you want to be fancy about it.
And all of these weapons are less clunky than the helbore and more intuitive to use.

Helbore IS usable and VERY GOOD, BUT only in the right circumstances, which don't always happen.
If you are using the helbore, you better fucking know what you're doing. Because you're either a god sniper or eating shit with it.
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>>575358468
why dont you interact with him and ask why he doesnt use melee?
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>>575358468
Holy fuck who cares about your personal life
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The new event is fun but it really, really exposes the people who don't belong in auric's even harder.
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>>575358643
Because I'm afraid he might be Martin Wahlund's son and have me permabanned
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>>575358468
I personally don't block. I just don't like it.
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>>575359203
based
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>>575358468
It's fine, not like they'll know.
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>>575354134
>Also, assume that someone asking this is a noob. I wouldn't make a noob play martyrdom because it teaches overreliance on wounds and may not be fun with retards who won't pick him up when he makes a second mistake.
This is really important and so many people who want to discuss builds don't get this. It's irresponsible to rate build elements based on how they perform in the hands of skilled players when it doesn't apply to the majority of people listening. Leave the high level discussions for when you know that whoever you're addressing can actually do something with that.
Maybe the average nerd talking about builds is just too autistic to get that, I'm not sure.
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>>575359203
i blocked this one retarded psyker once who was playing like he thought his shit didn't stink, died to the first trapper and then afked and refused to play the game or leave.
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>>575359318
but what if they do now man
what if they're just some dude playing and he can't help being a little clumsy at the game and day after day people block him more and more and in the end every time he joins a game it's just him and 3 bots, forever, because no one in the server would play with him
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Legitimately befuddled, confounded, stupefied, bewildered and confused how these people manage to build Arbites in a way that they melt and die in a second on Heresy and Damnation.
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>>575359451
>Maybe the average nerd talking about builds is just too autistic to get that, I'm not sure.
Pretty sure it's either noobs who have no idea and just want THE BEST build without knowing fucking jack shit, or retards who think they discovered some epic contrarian hidden giga build, when in reality they just discovered some basic synergy between zealot and chain axe, and it really sucks but such a player has never touched the relic blade and can thus never know.
Which is to say, they're innocent, hyped, and retarded and simply not able to know better.
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>>575359451
see this all too often when "meta" is discussed ESPECIALLY in pve games.
>be noob ogryn
>look up taunt ogryn build
>copy paste loadout to my character
>never taunt the shooters, just hit it on hordes or the occasional special so i can get dogged/netted
>bring my shield but only spam lights and do no damage
>bring rocks that i can never reliably hit specials with
My advice will ALWAYS be for noobs to learn the basics of movement and keeping yourself alive over just copying "LE STRONGEST HAVOC 40 TRUE SOLO" build. Weapons and builds matter a lot less in this game when you don't fundamentally understand how anything works
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>>575359521
Then don't block him, think of him as a sudden, random difficulty modifier for the missions.
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>>575360083
This is not a bad idea actually
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>>575354952
I wish my dad played 'tide games with me
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>>575357180
lol
>>575358960
that’s not going to happen
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when does the shop updates again?
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y'all hear some piggy noises? snuffling for truffles or something?
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>>575361313
in 2 weeks
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>>575359521
>hard job at the nuclear power plant
>work your ass off to make sure nothing goes wrong
>get home
>bitch wife does her usual bitching
>do the dishes
>do the laundry
>wouldn't you know, she does absolutely nothing even though she doesn't have a job
>think of ways to kill your spouse without getting caught
>finally have some time to play video games to unwind
>boot up darktide
>team consists of 3 retarded slavs
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>>575361492
so not only the armors avaliable are disgusting theres' a 2 week wait time
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>>575361483
idk if you hear something you should check maybe your mom just came home
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>>575361709
Swedish design, headed by the chinese. Please understand.
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>>575361863
bodied that fucking freak
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>>575361863
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>575361863
holy fuck
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>>575361863
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>>575361863
911, I'd like to report a murder
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>>575361863
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>>575308361
"Your sentence is to finish the no player death for six match contract on Europe server."
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>>575361863
HE DIDNT ASK FOR THAT!
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>>575350908
Vet will 2 Stealth.
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>>575362729
It's piss easy if you don't play after midnight and early morning (that's when the slavgroids and unemployed french play)
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>>575360074
It should be both. A good and forgiving to play build makes the learning process for those who are willing to learn a bit smoother. Those who aren't willing to learn to begin with wouldn't learn either way, they'd just suck slightly less with the tard build.
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>>575361863
I audibly keked
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>>575361521
>be slav
>wake up
>huff copium and tell yourself that you're "central european"
>go to work with sub 80 IQ white nigger slav trash
>deal with customers who, surprise surprise, are also sub 80IQ white niggers
>go home to play some dorktide and unwind
>get matchmaked with 2 ruskies and one angry balkanite
>man, fuck this game, I'll go on /copeg/ and shitpost
>see anons complain about retarded slavgroids
>smoke a cigarette
>go to sleep

Truly, there's no winning for some
of us.
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>>575360171
I wish my dad still played games at all…
>>575361863
Kek
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>>575363203
>czar just woke up
good morning czar
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>>575323715
Ratclick shield mooks were a basic trash mob carrying a powerful shield. Shopclick vanguards have nothingburger shields but several fucking thousand points of hp.
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>>575361863
fucking murdered that nigger
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>>575363345
I'm not the unemployed slav, isn't he active itt?
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>>575363542
>unemployed slav
>active
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>>575363623
kek
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only slavs play darktide
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hey anon did you know that in havoc you can SNARIGNG LOYALIST
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>>575363923
>SEEK!
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>>575363838
>polish skitarii
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>>575363865
maybe the russgroid was in all of us all along....
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>>575364219
STOP WITH THE POLAND TOIELT JOKES WE ARE A FIRST WORLD COUNTRY NOW BETTER THAN FUCKING UK
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>>575363838
skibiditari
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>>575361863
by the Throne...
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>>575364219
kek

>>575364463
stay mad
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When are they gonna add howling banshees?
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>>575361863
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>>575363838
decently funny
>>575364463
at this point I wouldn’t even doubt that sadly but the toilet jokes are eternal
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>>575361863
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>Be me
>Playing a casual Heresy just to have fun with my Psyker
>After me and Zealot deal with a horde, we look back and see our Level 29 Arbitrator just way back going all over the map killing whatever he can find for some reason
>Making ZERO effort to even catch up to us.
>Think to self: Ok, maybe it's just for here, and once he catches up, he'll keep up a bit at least.
>Get to that defense bit in the Manufactorum while waiting for the elevator to come up
>Look back
>ARBITRATOR IS STILL JUST 10 MILES BACK. I'm not sure if he was just lost as hell, or terminally ADHD
>It's like this the whole defense bit
>Elevator arrives just as the dude FINALLY manages to find us, somehow.
>HE'S JUST DANCING ALL OVER THE MAP NOT EVEN TRYING TO GET ON THE ELEVATOR
>I'm mashing the pings to try to grab his attention
>Nothing.
>I get fed up and vote kick; dude is swiftly kicked, and we get better people not long after

God it's true, Some Arby's really are just retards being carried by their class's mechanics. This is the kind of people that get game designers to have to do the yellow paint shit.
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>>575361863
Jeez Commissar, it would have been nicer to just put a Bolt round into the poor guy.
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>>575364847
>all female fighting force
who knows
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Stop your samefagging it wasn't even that funny...
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>>575366692
i was the guy who made the original comment and his reply was that funny
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>>575366348
Despite the armor, Howling Banshees can also be male. It's just mostly Eldar women
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Was there an update that affected game stability recently? I've had my first crash and my first DC in quite a long time both within the last couple of days. The game has been remarkably stable for me otherwise since they fixed how fucked it was in the beginning.
>pic unrelated
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>>575366976
Maybe update your gpu driver
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poxbursters filter me
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>>575367607
just push them bro
unless they're silent, or explode instantly, or for some reason your shove doesn't come out, or for some reason they don't get shoved, or someone shoots them
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>>575366692
>anon responds to someone with a zinger
>other anon responds to it like it was a burn of the century
>others join in on the joke

you're that one miserable nigga nobody invites anywhere, btw
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I'm enjoying zealot so much
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>>575367067
Why can’t we look like this in the game
Where’s my representation?
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>>575368259
Why can’t we look like this in the game
Where’s my representation?
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>>575366692
Ok faggot, you crack a joke.
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poxbursters should be replaced with a chance for cranial corruption spawns.
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>>575367780
>go to push them harmlessly away
>niggerfaggot teammate shoots them
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>>575367780
>walk up to them
>clearly planning to shove them
>teammate shoots em when you're in range
Why is this a thing? Do they not know how to handle them?
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>>575366348
there are male howling banshees, they're just femboys (this has been the case since the early 90s)
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I just unlocked this portrait. It wasn't a big accomplishment. The hardest part was realizing that just playing those maps on auric wasn't enough. There was a stupid "campaign mode" version that I had to queue for instead. I had to find that in the swede interface.

Anyway I like this portrait since I think that it's one of the only ones that doesn't look like a pile of random garbage haphazardly arranged into a portrait frame.
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>>575361863
PUT ME IN LE SCREENCAP!!!111
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>>575361863
atomized that fucking homunculus
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Does anyone have a dueling sword/bolt pistol build for my Veteran? I want to larp as 40k Harry Flashman.
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Is there any reason to use Thunderhammer outside of shroud field one-shot builds?
Only just started leveling it and so far it feels even worse than Eviscerator
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>>575371446
His sword is curved in the wrong direction
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>>575371654
How do you know?
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whomever thought up about the shielded scabs or dregs needs to get skinned alive
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>>575371501
Not really. You can put in the extra effort to bring it to workable on a standard build
The ironhelm is a little better for general use, it can power sweep hordes like a discount power sword and its mixed heavy attack chain make it slightly better at normal heavy attack spamming maulers/ragers down.
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>>575371501
>Is there any reason to use Thunderhammer outside of shroud field one-shot builds?
no
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>>575371501
No, the thunder hammer just sucks ass. Also that's by design of the devs.
How do I know? Because the weapon has sucked donkey dicks since launch and they refuse to change it in any meaningful way.
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>>575373102
i have insider information that they will buff it in the next patch
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>>575373102
It hurts because the great hammer was a reliable powerhouse in Ratclick
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>>575372716
>>575372747
>>575373102
>Warhammer mk40 is bad in Warhammer 40k game
shame
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>>575358468
I rarely block people, but I blocked a martyrdom zealot today for hoarding heals in an event mission. Tried asking in chat, nothing. Wouldn't med stim people with one wound, and only deployed the medpack so he could pick up another one.

That last one tilted me enough to block him.
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>>575371687
he’s an expert on handling and examining ‘swords’ and their ‘curvature’
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>>575349524
>>575358468
Was he called Alex?
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How do I get a 500 power curio?
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>>575374339
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>>575375142
He's too old for a zoomer haircut
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>>575375252
He's in his late 20s
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dead game, dead thread, content never
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>>575361863
OWNED that freak.
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>>575359521
I promise me and my mates wont block him so he'll have us at the very least.
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So, out of all the Rejects you've played with in Darktide, who took the cake for most stupidest/hilariously bad?
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>>575380000
you
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>>575380000
(You)
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>>575380000
me
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>>575380000
me, I notice me making mistakes all the time
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>>575380000
See
>>575366095
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>>575364056
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>>575380000
me
i go to bed everynight thinking how bad i am..
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>>575380000
>most stupidest
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>>575375252
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>>575380000
>most stupidest
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>>575380000
checked
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>>575308361
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVygRFO8wl0

vermintide 1 supremacy
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>>575381953
this general is 99% slavgroids, don't ask them too much
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>>575381679
>>575381953
Be nice, I'm dealing with a really cold. Fucking Nurgle
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>>575383352
*Really bad cold

See?
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>hey lets discuss our shady private shit on an open channel on the ship
really tired of that bottle of brandy or whatever zola fucking wanted
>>
UP IN DA CLUB!
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>>575383352
bro just give yourself to grandfather you aren't built for this, just slap your belly seven times, then say 'nurgle chums my gums' another seven times, and then shit yourself seven times more
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crsuher or arbities shock maul on arby
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>>575385657
I enjoy the Crusher.
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>>575385657
ive been trying crusher all of today and i just dont find it anywhere near as fun as arby maul
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>>575384423
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>>575385797
what kind of playstyle would you say the crusher is?
>>575385930
see that's where i'm at, I just dinked around in meat grinder for a bit and i'm trying to branch out from arby shock maul
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goddamn I thought you were kidding when you guys talked about people with lobotomies playing this game. Was doing the event on damnation with a friend and I got an ogryn that had no idea how to attack, and a hive scum that forgot what dodging and blocking was. Just, dragging two corpses to the end of the mission the entire time.
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>>575369342
>poxbursters are broken (again)
>don't feel like getting bursted
>see niggerfaggot "teammate" run up to a burster
>remember that I'm godtier godlike at this game and never get hit
>realize that a singular point of damage on me is worth ten of their worthless nigger lives
>shoot the burster because again, I don't want to watch the retard fail and have the consequences thereof fall on me
>niggerfaggot rages in chat

ALL OF THE DAY, BRO
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>>575371446
>Does anyone have a dueling sword/bolt pistol build for my Veteran? I want to larp as 40k Harry Flashman.
sure, just let me know how memey you want it to be
on a scale of
>havoc meta
to
>functional but clearly built around a meme
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>>575382612
Shame we lost so much of it
>>575371446
Based Flashy enjoyer
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Dompstat for the AoE prasma gun? Thermal resistance?
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I don't have any trouble with pushing poxbursters and I'm starting to suspect that people struggling with pushing them are those who set their FOV to 1080 degrees and are having trouble judging distances from within their 5 dimensional hyperfishbowl.
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So beyond waiting for events, what's a solid way to grind Diamantine?

Separate question as well; One game I was with an Arby that also had the Nuncio Aquilla ability like me, and we both dropped it and it made me wonder; Does the ability stack? Did it stack in 1.0?
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>>575387242
That's what I went with and that give you 2 charged shots, or maybe 3 if you fire cleanly or went a tick between shots.

>>575387780
Playing higher difficulties mostly, making sure to do some havoc to get the weekly payouts also help.
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>>575387780
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>>575385657
I usually run exclusively the Arbitrator exclusive weapons. I like all of them. But the Crusher is also pretty good and fitting with police brutality.
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>>575387242
I've seen a video earlier where he said there is no complete dump stat. You want to have 68% at least on charge time because that'll make you shoot 8 single shots with it. You would also want thermal resistance but getting those 8% for the next shot is more important. So it's 68%+ on charge time and <=72% on thermal.
That was on a veteran weapon specialist build though, not sure if that changes anything.
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how would (you) fix suppression
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>>575388660
add real LMGs with inaccuracy so you can spray a bit
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>>575330971
what're the three mods
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>>575388660
>make weapons that are good at killing bad at suppressing
>make weapons that are bad at killing good at suppressing
>make suppressing much easier than killing
There, it's fixed.
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>>575388167
>>575388251
So finally bite the bullet and really go into Havoc finally.
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>>575386202
>what kind of playstyle would you say the crusher is?
Control, support, general beatdown. Leans into Arbites strengths. The nice thing about the crusher, is it rarely needs to backdown in the face of massive waves of maulers/ragers, its defensive control power lets you play quite aggressively. The crusher's damage isn't bad if you use the energized hits frequently. An arbites, with its damage buffs up, can even get an auric Crusher down in 3 hits
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Tight, when's the next class?
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>>575390075
5 months
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>aoe plasma gun has 3 dead blessings (aoe can't crit or apply brittleness)
kino...
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ALL I WANT IS TO BUY SKINS BUT EVERYTHING IS UGLY AIEEEEEEEE
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>>575391292
Space Marine 2 will take good care of you
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>>575391410
leveling heavy to max then getting prestige 1 just to see all the skills being melee based ruined the game for me and haven't touched it since
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>>575391694
bro, your auxiliary reload? (executions count as melee kills btw)
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>>575391694
>all the skills
Heavy is a bit weak compared to the others, but that's just a false statement

that one that says "melee kill" means that you get free ammo back when you execute those types of enemies
it's a ranged focused perk with a """melee""" requirement
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>>575390181
cant wait for squat mercenary
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Which laspistol is the "good" one because I've just used the light/fast one for 30h and then switched to the slow one and it feels much more effective
With the light one I would have to spam shoot and whittle down enemies just for people to steal my kills pretty frequently but now I 1-2 shot snipe enemies and secure the kills myself more often than not
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>>575393661
*Votann mercenary
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>>575394917
Everyone is using fast firing one with autoclicker, because it virtually has no recoil (it has recoil but it settles before you can fire the next shot) unlike the slow firing one which you can't really use at max firerate (maybe exe stance fixes that but I didn't try)
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>>575395134
>autoclicker
Ah okay, in that case I'm just gonna stick with the slow one
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>>575395032
they still call them squats sometimes like on necromunda
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>>575395434
Votann are clones governed by dark age AI cores.
Squats are natural born vagabond abhumans.
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>>575396326
yea that sounds like how manlets would run a culture
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>>575396326
the votann/ancestor cores are the AI cores which also contain the gestation chambers. the clones are kin, but kin are capable of natural birth. squats are an imperial term used to refer to kin. the squats of necromunda are kin descended from a group who's votann broke, but are still the same abhuman species, just incapable of the specialised genetic modifications done by those with access to a votann
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>>575397000
>but kin are capable of natural birth
are they?
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>>575397282
yes. how else would they have descendents when their votann (ie the thing that clones them) broke on necromunda, like 4000 years ago?
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Fatshark already said they don't want any new classes that would require a different sized model similar to ogryn.
That means no ratlings, no squats, no votann, and no non-humanoid xenos.

You will have novitiates, eldar rangers, imperial navy breachers, and death cult assassins, and you will like it
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>>575397426
ooooooh okay there must be some lore I wasnt aware of
I guess they retconned it so that that Necromunda used to be a Votann world?
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>>575397603
No, it's a human world, most likely what happened is that the Votann on Necromunda are outcast.
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>>575397603
it's more like a soft retcon
it's explained that after the horus heresy, necromunda had been devastated by the war and a fleet of votann had stopped by and offered to help rebuild it if they got miners rights to the stuff in the ash wastes. they helped rebuild, a lot of them went back, but they left an ancestor core in their mobile mining rig that was used for 6000 years before being lost underground. now they're naturally born. it's unclear if the larger kin populations remember them, but no one seems to remember the deal except them, and maybe they aren't interested in leaving
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/oxivyziy/ironhead-squat-prospectors-designers-notes/
idk why the other guy is speaking all authoritative when a lot of this isn't hard to just read
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>>575398196
>>575397000
>>575396326
So then the Squats elsewhere are just descended from various Votann colonies too then?
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>>575395328
well it's not like you can't maintain max firerate without autoclicker, it will fuck your wrist up though
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Whats your favorite shopclick class and why?
I couldn't sink my teeth into Skitarii that much, but I fucking love Arbites and Hive Scum. Between the two, probably prefer Arbites because I love sending the dog to maul fuckers

Also I feel like so far each dlc class kinda 'mirrored' the og cast
Vet -> Skit
Zealot -> Scum
Ogryn -> Arbites
So I suspect the next class will try to occupy a similar niche to Psyker, but this is just my own thoughts. And a lot of people seem to think its going to be Sororitas, for better or worse
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>>575398473
I guess so
though the harsh gravity that lead to their genetic off shoot could have also happened elsewhere without votann stuff
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>>575398473
Pretty much. Votann lore is still 80% recycled squat lore.
The current squats are just League of Votann prospects that live in or do business with the imperium.
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>>575398642
Honestly, I just like Recon Vet. Mowing down dudes with lasers is enough for me. Admittedly, I don't play above Damnation
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>>575398961
It's fine on auric too as long as you know when to melee
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>>575398473
yeah, the demiurg in the tau are a votann colony as well. given they're older than the imperium in universe it kinda makes sense they got around
>>575398691
see, that *would* make sense, just the problem is we know that the harsh gravity of various prison worlds instead resulted in ogryns even though that doesn't make any sense. but that's warhammer lore for you sometimes
>high gravity? yeah it turns you into an ogre
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>>575398642
>Vet -> Skit
>Zealot -> Scum
>Ogryn -> Arbites
I can kinda see it. A ranged specialist, a melee specialist and a tank/bruiser. I don't play psyker so I don't know what their niche is
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>>575397282
Why wouldn't they be? They're just abhumans. I doubt DAOT humanity designed them to be sterile.
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>>575399475
High gravity + living on the surface = ogryn
High gravity + living underground = squat
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>>575399475
I've *heard* that the ogryn lore was supposed to be that theyre actually NOT just the result of high gravity worlds, but instead are the descendents of genetically modified human clones from the dark age of technology
honestly it makes sense
>want a 10 foot tall bodyguard that wont question orders
>can print them by the millions in your Dark Age Tech cloning facilities
kind of like the Old Ones and the Orks

I have no source on this
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>>575398642
Zel is just really fun to play. I tried to level an army but it feels like shit in comparison. I've always meant to go back to my vet and do cosmetic pennances for the right side of the tree/smokes but I just don't want to
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>>575399781
sounds like more bullshit fan fiction you picked up from a random comment. I've been guilty of this before
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>>575399960
arby* how the fuck has autocorrect/swipe not gotten better in the 20 fucking years since it was invented
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>>575399960
I am still waiting on the 2h chaxe for zel man
Where is it fartshart?
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>>575393661
I like dwarves, so I would be happy. But in game now with stupid vanguards, I doubt Fatshark will make a short race class. I dont know enough what would make them defining like Skitarii electrocute and servoskulls.
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>>575399475
Ogryns were from high gravity worlds with low resources and/or harsh environments. mostly former prison planets and death worlds.
Ratlings were from high gravity worlds with abundant natural resources and few if any predators.
Squats were from the high gravity galactic core worlds that were rich in minerals but otherwise barren, robust self-contained communities were built to house them at the start.
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>>575399781
generally it would make more sense if it was that, but i echo the sentiment from >>575400097 (i too have been guilty of doing this. 40k fluff is extremely prone to utter nonsense being very spread because most people are just wikidiving or hearing from people who have wikidived)
a lot of the ogryn lore is pretty old and lazily done because 'we want to add ogres to the game lol', and almost every new bit of lore they got since added was just comedy about how retarded they are like "hey they can get brain chips to get smarter, and the smartest can count to 4!"
when darktide came out i was annoyed that the ogryns were too smart but i came around and now prefer it. i enjoy the ironic twist that the most retarded ogryn is the only one confirmed to have an implant, and necromunda lore has also shown ogryns can rebel on their own as well, if sufficiently mistreated, instead of always being so stupid as to be like "well if emprah said so". also i like the heavy and how he comes across because he's still not very smart, but just slowly talks so he can use what smarts he does have in the best way, vs the others who just say whatever as it comes to mind
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>>575398642
Ogryn.
Closest thing to VT2's Foot Knight with big guns as a bonus.
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>>575400937
huh? your lone wolf arbi?
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>>575401012
Bullrush goes longer and harder than BTL it feels.
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>>575380000
XBL player i ran into 2 days in a row playing auric expeditions (unsurprising since its that dead)
He would die 1v1 to a reaper and loudly whine on the mic that we werent grouped up to babysit him (in the game mode where you run around) and then have a actual melty when you didnt
He sounded like he was 50 years old or something so maybe the concept of moving around while fighting was genuinely too much for him
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SIMMER DOWN, SWEETHEART!
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>>575402663
this is legitimately how a tauntgryn feels when he plants his dumb fucking shield in a corner
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I regret starting a Darktide match when I meet the vanguard enemies.
Such an unfun enemy.
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>>575402836
When you see vanuards, just leave! Take a hike! They cannot legally hit you without your consent
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Is it bad form to bring random shit weapons to aurics for leveling
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Are people just objective blind and deaf in mortis trials? 3rd one in a row where the fuckers just stand in the middle of the map killing mooks instead of trying to do the data interrogator
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>>575403253
so long as you dont go down 20 times no one cares
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What is considered a close range explosion? Is the bleed blessing worth it for Rumbler?
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>>575403671
>in mortis trials
you mean in the entire game
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>>575404180
I thought close range was considered something crazy like 18 meters or something
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It's impossible to find scriptures
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>>575404317
theres cheats that tell you the spawn locations
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>>575402708
taunt ogryn is soul
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>>575404317
Only you will pick them up anyway
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>>575404317
Works 'pon my device
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>>575400726
I agree that Bodyguard is the best personality, he strikes the best balance imo, Ogryns maybe couldn’t rebel but they could always lash out at you if you did something they didn’t like so that was another bit of nuance at least
>>575399781
A lot of stuff is traced back to the DAoT by the fanbase and somewhat understandably so. Same theory with Felinids. It’s not unreasonable in fairness, with the stuff we know they were capable of making big strong humans or cat people would have been child’s play for them, but it still is just a theory, although a reasonable one, at least afaik.
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>zealotfag mouthbreathing and singing to himself on the mic
>sprints ahead across all of enclavum baross to the end zone and activates the timer while the rest of us are still behind
>boss spawns and we have to fight it while he's just singing as he zealiggers all over the place
>mission passes with no deaths
i mean it's not like anything went badly so i can't complain about that but we barely got to play the game
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>>575404603
>>575405074
That's just gay
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>>575404317
Who cares about picking up books? They serve no purpose in this game. At least in Vermintide they give you a better chest.
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>>575406979
Ok then go learn 20 different spawn locations if you hate sucking dick so much
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playing auric makes me stressed. i have done two maelstorms by now but damn, it really feels hard
is it me being bad at the game? i have 50 hours on it by now and play chorus zealot
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>>575405380
best personality is bully, or you're a runt
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>>575388251
>baiting a nigga who still needs mats into h40
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>>575407431
Everything comes into play by auric, blocking, dodging and sliding are all necessary to live, you need to be aware of gunners chipping away at your toughness and know how to move to throw off their aim if you're not in a position to snipe them.
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>>575407431
Start playing with an ability that does something instead of pausing the game so your team can go grab a drink or answer the phone or whatever keeps them busy while you stun yourself
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>>575407927
chorus is the best zealot ability in the game althoughbeit

stealth for le epic clutch clipfarming doesn't count
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>>575407749
i can snipe with knife and always try to stick together with people, i slide a lot too but barely block. doesnt feel that good
>>575407927
how is chorus a bad ability?
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>>575408097
Charge is the best ability
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>>575408125
>but barely block
There's your problem. Your toughness gets chipped down slightly and you start taking health damage because of it. Start blocking and pushing.
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>>575407681
where is the other gif like this that people post with an anime girl wagging her finger at the camera
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>>575408414
A rimjob might help me remember
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>>575407681
what is vepuri doing in /coopg/?
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>mfw heavy eviscerator mk V instead of mk III
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>>575408414
You'll have to be a bit more specific, can you describe the girl? I might have it
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>>575408987
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>>575409196
You must mean XV
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I think the next hurdle i need to be able to clear is dealing with packs of around 12+ crushers in melee
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>>575409405
yeah that one
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>>575409448
The hardest part is not being able to see what the crushers in the back are doing
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>>575409448
chudclaw solves this
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>>575409340
Hey man! There's kids in here!
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>>575409624
Ok well don't put kids in your ass then
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>>575407681
>>575408987
jej
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>>575409669
no can do boss
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>>575409196
literally the other way around for me lol
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>>575408097
>>575408125
>teammate 1 goes down because of course he does
>do you charge to close in, cleave everything and revive
>or stealth for speed, onetap biggest threat, kill the rest with backstab bonus and revive or just revive in complete safety
>or manually walk up and chorus, stun yourself and all enemies repeatedly
>teammate 2 sees you have the situation handled and turns around to follow what the voices tell him to do
>teammate 3 is in the corner fighting a losing battle against 2 vanguards who are stopping him from reaching a celerity stim
>chorus ends, your downed teammate is still downed and surrounded
>at more than double the cooldown of the other 2 abilities
Chorus is only useful if your squad is in discord and you know where they live and you've been best friends for 20 years AND they are good at games
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>>575409009
Praying to the good lord above for a girlsline coop shooter.
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>>575410029
>he can't form telepathic links with dudes he's known for 20 minutes
I'm praying for you
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>>575408414
The only one I know, but I already quit the game because I'm content with stopping at the story where I quit. I'm not into "forever" on-going nature of live service games.
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>>575410029
>See someone is down
>See Zealot is using Chorus
>Go pick up the person who's down

I know pubs are retarded but I promise you the average pub can handle at least this much
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>>575411704
I've had to fucking spam pings while in chorus to get people standing right next to the downed guy to pick him up
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>>575411704
Yes pubs are that retard, because they don't know how to read UI (red exclamation mark) or have proper awareness and understanding audio cues.
It's often that I just outright cancel chorus early and pick up the down guy instead.
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>>575411704
>the average pub can handle at least this much
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>>575411704
If you ask the average pub how many chorus pulses it takes to kill a rager they would say 3
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>>575412703
lmao
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>>575410283
If only
>>575412434
Eldar sex soon (TM)
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we need sexy skins
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If i stuck to Malice, is it worth leveling the Helbore?
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>>575413590
the helbore is perfect for malice. you never have to put it away, just stab and shoot.
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>>575413590
its malice you can play literally whatever you feel like
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>>575413590
Any weapons are fine to use in Malice. If you have resource, you can just buy bunch of gray Hellbore, upgrade them to green, then sacrifice them for mastery.
Helbore is fine to use even on Auric with questionable teammates, but you have to get used to use melee to defend yourself, rather than shooting everything with Hellbore 90% of the time. Think Hellbore as a scifi bow, you can shoot a lot, more than Plasma and Bolter, but not as much like laspistol, reconlas or infantry lasgun.
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How bad is the jump to auric if my friends and I can clear damnation with increasing ease?
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>>575414529
Not so bad, basic auric is just damnation high intensity but always on
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>>575414529
Auric is just Hi-Intensity Damnation, sometimes with additional modifiers. If you've been running damnation you've likely run a hi-intensity map before.
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is seer better male or female
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>>575415258
Both are good. Female Seer's performance is more deranged in general, she feels more aware and broken because of it. Male Seer is more delusional and the jumps between whimsical dreamer to murderous grandpa feel more pronounced
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Could this be zealot and psyker name dropping the next class in my game?
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>>575416164
Right after we get the Ratlings, Beastmen, and Sisters of Battle that also get mentioned
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>>575416432
Begone battle sister tranny this doesn't concern you
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>>575416697
You will never be a vindicare assassin. You have no stealth suit. You have no Exitus Rifle. You will never bloom love on the battlefield
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>>575409448
Dodging to the side to avoid the lunging overhead helps.
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>>575405619
>matched with him AGAIN
AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE
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>>575416164
obviously kroot is next. trust the plan
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>>575416164
>fatshark releases a class in a skin tight body suit
>somehow the female version still has no boobs
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>>575416164
Anon, there are mentions of Necrons and Orks in this games dialogue. Cicatrix Maledictum class when????
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Give me your most REASONABLE take on the next class/DLC that will be added
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>>575416164
>a Vindicare™ assassin
>the Cicatrix Maledictum™
every time the rejects talk about things that aren't directly things they will have been exposed to it just sounds stupid as fuck. the idea that the assassin temples would even be knowledge to a random street preacher like a zealot is fucking stupid. info travels so slowly in the imperium that there are planets where people see necrons and literally think they're space marines
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>auric maelstrom
>arbitrator fucks off away from the fight, walking around the map like a tourist
>doesn't push poxbursters, likewise shoots them when I try to push them
>die to a silent mauler overhead after getting griefed by my teammate
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What the fuck was this little monster from the first Darktide trailer? I thought it was a poxhound but after rewatching it saw that it's got humanoid arms
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>>575418947
>Assassin class (vindicator most likely)
>SoB
>genestealer cult enemies, new region
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>>575418586
>you’re literally just a giant magical portal to hell rolling around suckin people up
… the kvno we need???
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>>575418947
Ratling sniper.
>but doesn't that encroach on veteran's job
Veterans job is to benefit the team with various utility talents and smoke grenades, other classes can shoot shit or otherwise kill at range better, he's not actually useful besides the utility.
>but fatshark said they didn't want to make characters with weird heights
I'm sure they didn't want to make characters that weren't pathetic hobos with rusty knives but they still ended up making arbites and skitarii(alpha primus).
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>>575419257
looks like it was just a poxwalker or a mutant
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>>575419257
Most likely an enemy that was scrapped and/or repurposed. We see this in the gameplay reveal trailer too. The Poxhound was clearly some funky looking alien Xenomorph thing instead of a Poxhound.
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>>575419548
They already made ogryn anyway. They should add some manlets. It's not like height really matters anyway
No one is going to be paying attention to how the animation for climbing looks bad, they just want to be a midget and go on a team with an ogryn and have funny dialogue
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>>575418586
Yes but that would be fucking stupid and illogical. A faction that's already imperial and human sized (albeit heavily modified) is plausible from the standard set by the inclusion of skitarii alone.
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>>575418947
Bolter bitch
>it WILL sell like hotcakes
>an excuse to add in weapons like the melta gun
>will act as a melee bruiser career similar to the slayer with a copy-paste of slayer's leap (assault pack).
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>doing auric maelstorm
>everything going great
>team sharing same braincell
>get downed by a silent poxbuster right at the end
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>>575419257
It's just a poxwalker.
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>>575419674
>>575420682
Yeah it ain't a poxwalker, it's definitely this thing, probably an alt model for the poxhound since the ingame one also shows up in this trailer
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>>575421084
it's definitely not a hound
https://youtu.be/Zp44GNRzvCc?t=37
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>>575346242
Anon... the consequences are the point of playing sex.
>>575348546
"Competitive sex" is cope roleplay.
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>>575419924
Those aren’t the only criteria needed though. They’ve gone out of their way to say they don’t want stuff like Marines in this game iirc and Assassins are more or less the same. You could pick nearly any other imperial faction and I’d say they have a better chance of getting in.
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Okay.
Mercantile is just as bad as Ascension Riser.
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what's wrong with ascension riser
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>>575421282
>same spikes on its back
>same horns on the sides
>same mottled skin texture
>same claws
>the way its sitting even matches the basic poxhound idle
haha well you're right i guess it could be anything really, it was kept in shadows to be spooky and mysterious
haha maybe it'll be a new enemy they'll reveal sometime haha
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Why don't the rats worship cheese, or something?
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>>575422015
*overheads u*
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>>575422015
rats worship the giant rat that makes all of the rules, it is known
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What isn't wrong with Ascension Riser?
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>>575423564
it doesn't actually rise
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>>575423564
You get not one, but TWO glowing canisters that you can bring home with you.
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>>575422797
why does he make all the rules who put him in charge
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I look at anyone who more ranged kills than melee with disdain.
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>>575423867
the verminlord is like the god of rats o algo
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Make poxwalkers immune to smite. Just fuck smiggers. I'm tired of them smigging 25/8.
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>>575423867
He's the giant rat, who else would make the rules?
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finished reading "Hive" from Dan Abnett (the dude for the background """"story"""" of darktide), really cool book also I am 100% sure where darktide will go storywise
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>>575426554
Did it say if Rannick is gonna get his dick sucked?
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>>575426554
I don't think that Abnett wrote the story for darktide. I think he just wrote a mountain of deepest lore for the Attoma and the game's factions.
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Give me the most FUN hive cum build for aurics.
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>>575427470
What the FUCK is """fun"""?!
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>>575427545
Something to distract from the creeping awareness that the best years of my life are being wasted sitting in front of this screen
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>>575426980
>>575426554
Abnett likely contributed key details and set the backdrop but we really don’t know where his influence begins and where Ward’s begins so it’s hard to say
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>>575380000
I ran into a Veteran a few days ago who could not aim and move at the same time. This is not an exaggeration, he literally could not move and aim at the same time.
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>>575423564
It's got some good tunes
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>>575423564
i like how it looks and the concept of a giant elevator as a locale is really good. if you actually get to look at the sights it's quite cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOe8v6jNJjI
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>>575419257
Pox walker
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>>575399781
>I've *heard* that the ogryn lore was supposed to be that theyre actually NOT just the result of high gravity worlds, but instead are the descendents of genetically modified human clones from the dark age of technology
And that isn't the case. It' pure headcanon, aka fanfiction, aka not real.
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>>575407525
Yes, you are strongest! :)
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>>575418947
Next class will be an astropath. Or they'll do some shaman character that uses their divination (psychic powers) to cast magic.
Would fit the pattern too.
Arbites (a power fantasy class slop to appease normies)
Hive Scum (a crackhead class that fits among the 4 original reject shitters)
Skitarii (power fantasy)
Shaman (crackhead)
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I don't like the needle pistol. I get that it's stupidly powerful, but I dislike it vs specials. It will kill them efficiently, but usually the special will have time to do their thing before they succumb to the poison. It's very fucking tiresome when you get that turboshitter team that is blind to specials (every mission).
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>>575419413
I don't see them doing any of the assassins. First, the assassins generally operate alone rather than part of a squad. Secondly every single one of our characters is someone who could roughly be a low rank nobody. Assassins are too rare and special for that.
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>>575426554
uh oh
>story establishes multiple characters from different parts of the hive (lowlife/military/government/dregs)
>insurrection gets planned by lowlifers
>subplot of chaos (of course)
>insurrection breaks out - we are here in darktide
>chaos subplot gets killed (literally), dont know by whom
>slowly real enemy gets revealed, while the hive gets even more fucked up
>mfw that ending
we are in for a wild ride when all of this gets implemented by 2040
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>leveling up a hive scum in damnation
>see teammate
>auric storm survivior
>he constantly goes down
the mark of the shitter.
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>>575433102
Also all of the officio assassinorum asssssins are basically space marine tier.
So doubly not happening.
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Next class is eldar.
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remove the stagger from flamerstaff primary fire.
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Which Skitarii personality is most likely to say "karker"?

The reverent with her high pitched voice would be cute
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>>575436750
then what's the point, retard?
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>>575427470
Hive cum is not associated with fun ever since pickpocket nerf
I guess you can still spam shredder autopistol in aurics but you can do so on any other class
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>>575437068
The point is learn to use your sword for small groups of trash. The retarded swedes fucked up by letting you spam m1 infinitely to stagger fucking everything. It is high time that the flamestaff be brought to heel.
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>>575437252
No.
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>>575427470
Rampage with Chain Axe XII (Headtaker, Slaughterer)
Special killer gun of choice; needler, bolt pistol, or stub pistols.
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>>575437482
oh and i forgot:
for drugs i recommend attack speed + strength. But it's entirely up to personal preference.
for curios, again preference but at least get one stamina curio.
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Was this thing on the wall in Hab Dreyko always there?
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>>575438048
>turd person
hope you like missing every melee headshot lol
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>>575438048
i think so
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*fart* NIGGERS! :D
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>>575432510
>shaman
>astropath
how are these different from a psyker?
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>>575440804
holy FUCK
i'm cryeing!1!!!
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>>575436750
>>575437068
The proper fix for inferno staff is to make its resource economy much worse. It'd be completely fine if it didn't let you spit out a constant stream fire at like a 5:1 ratio compared to your time spent quelling.
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>>575442718
Unfortunately that would make it suck on malice, which is the difficulty the devs care about
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>>575442718
just give it the same primary fire as the other staffs so you're not just infinitely farting giga stagger fire onto everything without at least a little preparation.
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>>575442275
The same way arbites and ogryn are different.
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>>575443319
Anon I want FEWER staves to have the same boring fucking ball spam primary fire, not MORE
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>>575442718
Only way to nerf the flame staff is to hard cap the amount of soulblaze it can shit out and apply a cleave limit to it.
Entirely knee cap the thing, both it and psyker deserve it. And on top nerd psyker's damage reduction, the class is meant to be a glass cannon, but instead it's made out of tungsten and it's a thermo nuclear bomb.
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>>575443651
It's just not possible.
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>>575443651
Then kneecap soulblaze application. Flamestuff should be hard capped at 11 stacks of soulblaze on any enemy.
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>>575443962
but wai not you stupid bloody bastard saar!?!??
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>>575440804
best post in this ITT thread
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Dukane?
More like Doodookane!
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How about we just leave the Inferno staff alone?
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>>575444403
Hearing you loud and clear, we are buffing Scrier's Gaze and nerfing Ogryn.
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>>575443918
What fucking damage reduction? It already plays like a glass cannon. I can get caught inside trash mobs for like one second tops before I'm on the ground.
Focus your ire on the thing that actually needs nerfing.
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i can live with not being number 1 on all the damage charts but getting netted or dogged more than twice in a run makes me want to blow my fucking head off
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>>575444489
Good. Also buff the Skitty.
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>>575444732
>What fucking damage reduction?
All the DR nodes in the tree, their values should all be slashed in half.
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>>575444804
Nerf skittle too. The servoskull is too strong, nerf damage by 30%.
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>nerf this
>nerf that
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nerf deez nuts
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Nerf vet
Op piece of shit
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>>575445819
i agree!
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>REEEEEEE NERF FLAME STAFF
>REEEEE
>PSYKER OP REEEEEE
>t. dumb faggot that couldn't even progress out of the havoc trench even if he tried
Why are you retards so obsessed with nerfing things that don't affect you, anyway? Flame staff in auric underperforms bigly compared to other staves, and half of you fuckers don't play higher than damnation either.
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>havoc clitty leaking
lol
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>>575445912
>Flame staff in auric underperforms bigly
It doesn't. It rapes everything in lower difficulties.
Also nerfing psyker wouldn't be a big deal for high difficulty players, you play well and are good at the game.
Also making havoc harder is only a benefit for you.
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Always funny when anons discuss possible balance changes as if anything they have to say will affect what fatshark does
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>>575446084
I'm not defending the flame staff, it should be nerfed in a way that makes it less oppressively overpowered in havoc, but all the suggestions the malicelets in this thread make are patently and obviously very fucking retarded and it really does show that this general is stuck below damnation.

Also read the whole sentence.
>compared to other staves
Any generic leftclick build takes a massive, steaming dump on flame staff.
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>>575446163
I am well respected among the fatshark community, they will heed my 4chan posts
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>>575444909
>hmm yes, psyker should die from 3 poxwalker pokes instead of 4 that will fix the game
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>>575446220
>ur bad at the game if you suggest change i don't like
Dunning-Kruger effect on full display.
I would call you Tanner but I don't have enough evidence to support it.
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>>575446667
Unironically yes.
If you're dying to fucking poxwalkers it is just a skill issue.
Learn to melee.
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>>575446740
>uh nerf le damage
>uhh... make peril... less goody
Try making suggestions that aren't retarded and don't make the thing useless outside of hyper-niche difficulties that (You) will have a thread-long meltdown about supposedly not caring about. What's the common sentiment, psyker needs more staves? How about you start by not completely nuking one into nonexistence, retard.
Realistically even something like reducing the amount of cleave the flame staff has, would likely only be a relatively minor nerf, unless they kneecap its cleave entirely. At which point bubble psyker stops being viable entirely and the entire community starts having breakdowns over it.
The actual problem is shriek, but this general is too low skill to have that discussion.
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>>575446845
>if you fuck up for even a single second in this half hour long mission you should just not get to play the game
Ok anon... I'll try to do better if it makes you happy
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you're wrong
i'm right
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>>575447357
OWNED that mongrel
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>>575447357
I...I have no recourse...no possible argument...
I concede...
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>>575447957
Thank you good sir.
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>>575446667
I agree with >>575446845
I assume you're new, don't play psyker, or forgot, that they gave psyker +25%, and +10% GLOBAL damage reduction talents, that are both directly adjacent to the best skill on the entire tree that brands you as a fucking hopelessly retarded eternal maliceshitter if you skip it (Psykinetic's Aura).
Global DR means it applies to health, and with your projectile immunity from Empathic Evasion, you no longer need to crutch on toughness against ranged attacks and can thus stack health instead.
Congratulations, your psyker can now facetank poxbursters and shrug off flamers. I think this can even tank an auric mauler overhead (from full down to like 10%), I don't remember what it takes to survive a crusher.
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>>575447326
>noooo how dare the game punish me for fucking up that's not faiiirrr!
Skill issue
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[The most retarded take you've ever seen] and if you don't agree you're a [Colored Person of choice]
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Thank you, I guess
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>>575450898
had a frog send one of those in the chat couple days ago
i got boss damage or something
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>teammate gets downed right before extraction with a horde between him and us
>game instantly spawns a million flamers and flame bombers
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>>575450898
>>575450994
Reminder to report them because mods aren't allowed to directly affect other players, and this is logged in their chat system so you have irrefutable proof :)
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>>575451351
why would giving me a compliment affect me in a negative way?
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>>575451461
Because it's a green circle with fewer steps, and you don't like green circles.
Because he's a mod using faggot and thus a cheater.
Because you like mods and don't want others to spoil it for you by using mods that affect others and potentially getting the devs to crack down on it.

Any other number of reasons.
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>>575451650
>players salvage a sliver of enjoyment out of your unplayable mess using mods
>put a stop to this by banning mods
I suppose swedes would do this
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>>575448385
Have you actually tried this yourself and/or have demonstrations for what it can do? 25% and 10% GLOBAL damage reduction barely makes any difference in what you can get hit by on psyker, not to mention that just a dream doesn't even work half the time when you're actually using your peril to do damage, so I don't even understand what it has to do with this discussion about psyker not being enough of a glass cannon when it turns into glass the moment you're being a cannon.
Eating hits from an AURIC mauler or flamer really isn't on the list of things I'm worried about, I'm not sure how you think this is supposed to help.

>>575448621
You do realise that losing most of your health already is punishment, right?
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>>575451351
>>575451650
>>575451980
lol they have no way of actually enforcing bans on mods, for fucks sake they can't even stop people from cheating in thousands of dollars worth of premium currency in helldivers and they're extremely aware that those mods exist
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>>575452053
>Have you actually tried this yourself and/or have demonstrations for what it can do?
I've used 3 health curios on psyker since they introduced Just a Dream and haven't yet even considered using any fewer than 2.
The talents on their own don't make the difference, but having 3 health curios does.
I've stopped bothering making demonstrations for copeg because some schizo nigger always has an izzat-related meltdown over it.
>um you clearly recorded this in uprising
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>>575451650
>green circle
i use the green circle cheat
>thus a cheater
and?
>potentially getting the devs to crack down
they already have a policy on mods, someone else getting banned or not won't affect my usage of them
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>>575452053
>noooo you can't punish me for this , it's too harsh of punishment that's not hair!
Skill issue
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>>575452289
>and?
CHEATING IS MORALLY WRONG
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>>575451980
>>575452113
Hypothetically
>obnoxious scoreboard mod becomes fucking huge to the point that half of all games have one in it
>people inevitably catch wind of it
>a portion of the community doesn't like it and forms a whole cult around making a stink over it for some arbitrary tranny drama reason
>they're loud and obnoxious enough for fatshark to listen
>fatshark kills modding wholesale
>>575452289
See above for the uniquely Caucasian skill called "foresight", my brown friend.
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>>575452202
The schizo nigger izzat farmer won.
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>>575452657
(You)
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>>575452393
i have the caucasian skill called "foreskin", its a shame you lost yours
they aren't going to u-turn on modding policy because the rules are already a wide berth of 'dont impact other people' which is open enough to ban you for using the yes/no command mod
but it basically just translates to 'dont be a fag' which the compliment mod in its essence cannot be
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>>575453195
>lowercase retard having the most retarded opinion imaginable
Many such cases
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Class release in December will save /coopg/
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>>575453458
>no class codename datamined
nah, I already told you fags, it's a weapon pack, possibly red crafting
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>>575453675
How can they monetize red crafting without being crucified by the community?
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>>575453748
include it with a map+enemy pack so you feel forced to buy it for new content
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>>575454203
>so you feel forced to buy it
Tide games are turd-worlder games, they'd alienate half the players because they can't afford two kebabs.
Try again.
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>>575454203
>paid maps, enemies and weapons
All of these were promised specifically to not be paid content. I dont think it would go down well if they tried this
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>>575453748
the monetized part will be the weapon pack

>>575454203
they said they're never selling those sorts of things
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We talk a lot about slavgroids on the EU server, but for me it's the spanish players, they are just not able to understand how this game works. Must be the temperature frying their brain or centuries of muslim inbreeding
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>>575454889
Where the fuck are you playing that you are encountering Spaniards? Slavgroids get shit on because they're half of EU server's population, and universally play like the sub-humans they are.
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>>575452393
>devs make game unplayable on purpose
>stop playing
Simple as that. If that situation arises and the people in charge go out of their way to ruin their product for me for the sake of people who
>cant ignore chat while playing
>cant block chat spam
>cant play with people they like and have to resort to randoms
>cant play well enough to not get triggered by seeing their own performance like a troon witnessing their own camera output in a zoom call
>cant control their autism and keep shitting, pissing and cumming on reddit so hard and so long that they warrant dev action
Then the game is clearly not for me. It's no different to when the game was literally unplayable on purpose before unlocked and loaded
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>>575418947
Probably some abhuman class, squats or ratlings if I had to guess
Thinks like SoB or Eldar is the equivalent of adding space Marines to the setting and I doubt that would ever happen
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>>575455058
>Where the fuck are you playing
the EU server, spaniards are rare but you knwo when there's one
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>>575455551
It is funny to me that people constantly underestimate the sisters of battle and think they are weaker than marines.
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>>575455927
When you fight with the power of female privilege, you are as strong as an astartes
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>>575455927
I mean they are marginally. But even if unaugmented, they're still clad in power armor and use most of the same exact weapons marines do
And there's also the fact that they would have way too much overlap with Zealot, a class that already feels like it's being left in the dust
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>>575456669
>But even if unaugmented, they're still clad in power armor and use most of the same exact weapons marines do
Even if they are unaugmented, they regularly fight against CSM and win too. So they are not that much weaker at all either.
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the power of faith matters a lot more than any augmentation, the mechanicus forego too much faith for their tranny obsession with removing body parts
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Our rejects are honestly already Space Marine level
>Nuh uh X isn't canon
Retard
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>>575457472
i dont think so secondary
if one ultramarine was on atoma he solos the entire cult
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>>575457472
titus was on Graia for like two days and ended an ork invasion and a daemon prince's awakening
it has canonically been several years in darktide
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>>575457824
>>575458391
Titus is not an average Space Marine
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>>575458391
Titus is a named unhelmeted ultramarine, that alone gives him a ton of power
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>>575458636
malum caedo wears a helmet but that doesnt stop him
granted its one of the old cone helmets so that probably raises his power level a bit
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Why did they bother making the player characters "nobodies" when they immediately prove themselves as extremely capable and exceptional?
The player characters should've just been mercenaries, that would have opened for more classes too
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>>575459315
>Named marine
Already in the top percentile of Marines. The average marine is the one who gets torn apart by a horde of Hormagaunts, raped by a horde of cultists or stabbed in the neck by a named human.
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>>575460763
I like the idea of these seemingly nobody convicts turning out to be really capable
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>>575442394
Everytime I see this gif I always think she looks like Hillary
>>575434178
They’re above them even. Some of the best SM combatants around have gotten the piss beaten out of them by Assassins. They’re no joke.
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>>575452389
cute anime girl knows best…
>>575455927
they are. they’re powerful but it’s clear which is more of impressive overall.
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UP IN DA CLUB!
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>>575458636
Titus does wear his helmet several times throughout the game funnily enough
>>575458539
He has his weird anti-warp thing going on but he’s pretty much an average UM other than his advanced age iirc
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>>575460834
at least two of those had context
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FIRE
>DEATH
RENEWAL
FIRE
>DEATH
RENEWAL
FIRE
>DEATH
RENEWAL
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>>575464605
all of the other nuglites cringe when tox flamer shows up
>FIRE AND ROT, BOTH CONSUME
>yeah okay, meredith
>this is like the third time she's set the phage tree on fire this month
>FIRE, DEATH, RENEWAL
>does she need to constantly explain her gimmick every time, mootash pharg...
>NURGLE'S FLAME CONSUMERS
>nurgle doesn't have flames, dumb hoe
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>>575443530
ogryn and arbites are only similar in that they are tank archetypes, they have very little in common otherwise. arbites is a human-size class for one and all the weapons and abilities are completely different.

those proposed classes are just subtypes of psyker, and you'd have to artificially gimp them and/or the psyker to introduce any meaningful differences.
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>>575464964
>nurgle doesn't have flames
She's probably not even blessed by nurgle and thinks she is, if you look at her face she's one of the only cultists that still has a nose
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>>575463076
>they are.
They are not. Sisters been shown to fight chaos marines and win.
There's few trailers made by GW of this.
Sisters are marine tier, only people who disagree legit don't know the fluff.
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>>575465231
>ogryn and arbites are only similar in that they are tank archetypes
And astropath/shaman will be similiar to psyker in that they use psychic powers, and then have little in common otherwise.

This isn't hard to figure out.
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>>575466358
>And astropath/shaman will be similiar to psyker in that
they literally ARE psykers. psyker is a generic term that includes them. what can you even come up with that is meaningfully different from
>heh this guy generates peril to cast magic bullets/AoE fart clouds or do his weapon specials

arbitrator is different from ogryn because he's human-size, has a dog, and his ultimates have completely different design than the ogryn's. he also has dog.

skitarii is different from veteran in that he has the whole capacitance mechanic and a radically different skill tree layout that enables different build strategies. he also has skull.

scum was an entirely new archetype that wasn't even present in the game to begin with, frontline DPS glass cannon with optional tox DOT focus. filled out a niche that neither the zealot, veteran nor psyker could fill.

what would a shaman do that is significantly different to psyker? what would an astropath? they're not even combat concepts to begin with, a shaman or astropath would either be some rear-line support or simply fight like any other psyker.
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>>575466183
Anon, even Scions and other elite infantry have fought chaos marines and won. They usually have help and back up and outnumber them. Sisters are not individually on that level.
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>>575466924
>rear-line support
Imagine the first couple weeks of everyone playing [DLC support class] and nothing dying lmao
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>>575466183
Literally objectively false. Look at the actual 10e datasheets.

CORE STATS (Battle Sister vs CSM Legionary)
> Toughness: Sister T3 vs CSM T4
> Wounds: Sister 1W vs CSM 2W
> Armor Save: Sister 3+ vs CSM 3+
> Leadership: Sister 7+ vs CSM 6+

MELEE CAPABILITY
> Sister (Close combat weapon): 1 Attack, WS 4+, Strength 3, AP 0, Damage 1
> CSM (Astartes Chainsword): 4 Attacks, WS 3+, Strength 4, AP -1, Damage 1
(Even without a chainsword, a base CSM gets 3 attacks at WS 3+ / S4).
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>>575458636
"Rejects" are also named and have visible faces if they chose to. That's why they stomp so hard.
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>>575467031
>even Scions and other elite infantry have fought chaos marines and won
reminder that chaos marines in lore fluff are jobbers who lose to regular human shitters like cain and eisenhorn on the regular when the plot requires it.

if we include tertiary media like video games my rogue trader chopped down every single CSM in that ambush fight on the snow planet in 1-2 rounds using a simple two handed sword and a lot of extra turn spamming
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Darktide bros where is our thot representation talking about our updates
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>>575467942
what a rancid whore, wouldn't even make it as a lot lizard round where I'm from
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>>575467942
She wored too much
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>>575468116
10/10 in England
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>>575467573
The only time Eisenhorn beat one was through smarts and making him touch a book that compelled him to read it pretty sure. Eisenhorn is also a powerful psyker who blows up elephant sized monsters with his mind so not exactly a “regular human shitter”. You can find examples of virtually everyone “jobbing” at this point but they tend to involve context a lot of people ignore or are unaware about. Obviously gameplay shit not meant to be taken as fact further worsens this.
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>>575468116
MILKY I WANT MILKY NOM NOM NOM NOM
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>>575468116
It was fucking cringe when she glued her fucking instagram pics on every communication she made, but on the other hand at least we had communications.
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>>575468860
Being a community manager at these companies seems like the most braindead lazy job you could have. Why do so many of them quit?
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>>575470579
>Why do so many of them quit?
You have to treat literal sub-human, mouth-breathing, severely retarded, barely sentient, complete and utter troglodytes, with dignity and respect.
You couldn't pay me to do that.
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>>575468116
are her eyes unnaturally large? put together they're like half the width of her head
surely she didn't edit this to give herself kawaii ugu aesthetics
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>>575470993
>You have to treat literal sub-human, mouth-breathing, severely retarded, barely sentient, complete and utter troglodytes, with dignity and respect.
No I get that part, I have worked in customer support myself in the past. But video game CMs barely interact with the community, let alone on any personal level.
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>>575467297
Don't bother, secondaries stop giving (You)s when you bring up a primary source and keep vagueposting about muh cutscene muh book muh video game
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>>575471271
The literal job description includes engaging with users, moderating them, and acting as a mediator/middleman between the devs and the community.
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>>575471484
>The literal job description includes engaging with users, moderating them, and acting as a mediator/middleman between the devs and the community.
Okay? Do you see the CMs interacting with the community? Because I don't.
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>>575471626
I remember them posting on the pisscord with some regularity, according to a couple searches I made around update time. But that's the only time I bother with that place, so I'm not completely certain.
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oh boy here i go looging again
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Im having more trouble climbing to havoc 40 from 30 than getting master in league, there is no way this coop pve game Is supposed to be this hard
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>>575471931
It isn't. Mastering the controls is a baseline assumption because they're relatively simple, so we can assume that most of darktide's execution skill is related to target prioritization, positioning, and cooldown management if your class has such a thing. If you're in the 30-40 range, you're probably pretty good at all of these.

The single most winning thing in havoc that you can change right this instant, is team composition, which is primarily a knowledge check. Either you manipulate it by playing premades, or you forgo the need to try and communicate with some ESL creature and install mods to inspect users.
>but doesn't this mean-
Yes, it means you host.
>I don't like premades, mods, or hosting
Stay stuck then.
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I'm never switching off zealot's stam aura. This stuff is a huge QoL upgrade for a flailing retard like me.
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>>575471484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4OvQIGDg4I
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>>575471931
The best time to climb is after a reset. If you're late to the starting line you get stuck with a large amount of those who are there because they can't manage the climb, and they expect a havoc sherpa to carry them

>there is no way this coop pve game Is supposed to be this hard
That is the point of High level Havoc or was. It is for the subset of players who want their difficulty to be random bullshit go tier. Then people start to demand that everything gets balanced around this, making it easier, then complaining that it is easier.
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>>575473718
What's the "John Tide" build of this game?
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>>575473783
The vet who hits red ammo by the end of the first horde, unless he dies before that happens, and can't figure out how to melee anything unless it's a spawn door (which he religiously farms).
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>>575473397
yea its arguably the correct choice if you arent in the tox gas modifier or havoc
not getting hit by using your stamina is ideally better than toughness DR as well
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They don't even try to be original
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>>575474151
>bro I did the meme!
bet he will name his skitarii a variation of "clanker"
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>>575470579
It's partly because of this >>575470993 but another large part is that the companies probably just don't let them do anything at all so they lose any passion/motivation for the job and quit.
Like look at pic related >>575468860
Why bother working for a company as a "Community Manager" when you aren't allowed to do fucking anything to try connect with the Community.

And as retarded the Darktide playerbase is, there are still lot of valid questions and even points that it makes often. Like the game balance, people have correctly pointed out that lot of shit in Darktide are just fundamentally broken from the ground up and lot of it makes zero sense.

For example, why the fuck is Thunder Hammer such dogshit? The fucking Dueling Sword even after all the nerfs is still the superior armor deleting weapon.
Why did they nerf the Vigilant Autoguns by nerfing their fucking finesse multipliers? And then try to dress that shit up as a "buff" to the weapon?
Or why the fuck can't ogryn, 1000kg 3 meter tall giga nigga, just punch a pox hound off himself as a baseline ability? While arbites who has a cyber-mastiff that's SMALLER than the poxhound can just kick the hound off the arbites with 0 effort.
All of these are good and valid questions, but they refuse to say anything.

And it probably might get extremely frustrating for a community manager when they actually know the reason as to why weapon balance is the way it is, but they CANT tell about it to the playerbase because they have been forbidden by their higher ups.
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>>575408414
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STOP SMITING POXWALKERS FOR 30 SECONDS AND PAY ATTENTION TO THE FUCKIGN CRUSHER OVERHEADING YOU FROM BEHIND YOU FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER
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>>575474486
>bet he will name his skitarii a variation of "clanker"
Haha yeah... Who would ever do that...
At least I didn't name my Vet John Darktide
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>>575475165
>Loose Cannon
>name him John Karktide
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>>575475149
haha smite goes bzzzz
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AAAAAAAAH I CAAAANT HEAR YOU OVER THE VOICEEEESSSAAAAAAAH
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>>575475234
I went with male loose cannon for my Vet, but I named him Hoarder since I will hoard the ammo.
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>>575474878
I see community managers who stick around (in other franchises) master the art of THICK corpo speak, so thick that they can hide subliminal messages and hidden meanings that the suits can't decipher. Such as vaguely hinting something along the lines of "I literally can't tell you, boss said so".

>why the fuck is Thunder Hammer such dogshit?
I think they might unironically think that the ability to instagib bosses is really special and really powerful because they're unaware of how the game is actually played. I assume they're the same caliber of player that I get in my aurics, that completely panics and runs around like a headless chicken when scary music starts playing. Meanwhile any halfway competent team completely rapes even havoc 40 bosses. You'd think h40 is where hammer would shine, but no, it's literally a worse relic blade lmfao, and even that build isn't actually that great compared to other lineup alternatives.
>thammer can't even one-tap a crusher without steroids
the absolute state of this weapon
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I got some money to spend. What games should I buy?
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Did these swedish fish actually make the Ogryn's signature weapons bad?
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>>575474151
Million times better than Dredd
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>>575475917
Darktide and all of its dlcs of course
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>>575476020
More or less yeah.
Slab shield is decent but has gotten power crept hard, but that doesn't save it from the fact that having only 1 viable attack on a weapon is dogshit weapon design.
Power maul is very strong, but it is only strong because it is the only weapon that can spam and apply 80% skullcrusher constantly. And once skullcrusher gets nerfed, the Paul will be shit
Cleavers are even more thoroughly power crept.
Shovels are in the same spot as cleavers
Bully clubs are just boring as fuck.
And only good weapons are pickaxes because they hit as hard as you'd expect and mulch everything in front.

Ripper guns are also bad because they are designed to be ranged horde clear weapons, which is objectively a shit weapon role.
Grenadier Gauntlet is a good pocket sniper against specials but that's all it is good for really.
While rumbler is either relatively tame or blatantly game breaking.

And rest of ogryns ranged weapons suck ass because PBB exists, and they've all been designed around that.
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>>575475165
I spent days going through names for my Skit, trying to think of a punny one that wasn't overdone
"Forken-Sokket" randomly came to mind while I was at work
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>>575476798
>Grenadier Gauntlet is a good pocket sniper against specials but that's all it is good for really.
It applies brittleness in an aoe, and staggers like the psyker's ground pound staff. It's quite underrated, borderline broken in havoc. S-tier, though rumbler obviously has the crown.
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>>575477094
Kek
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>>575476798
Yeah rippergun is super fun to use but it sucks that it's basically a waste of ammo to use it on hordes.
Think they'll ever give Ogryn a heavy bolter? Maybe an assault cannon?
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>>575476718
I already have dark tide, anything else?
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>>575477373
Killing Floor 3
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>>575477094
P3N-15 is goated
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>>575477272
>Think they'll ever give Ogryn a heavy bolter? Maybe an assault cannon?
Would be fun but we will never truely know. But honestly speaking, I don't think there's any other ranged heavy weapons currently that they could give ogryn, and stuff like heavy bolters, assault cannons, lascannons, etc. are the only ones left.
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>>575477094
HAHAHAHA FORK!
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>>575476020
All ogryn guns suck yeah. Lorenz is my least disliked actually.
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People are complaining that Darktide runs horribly on consoles and is practically unplayable. Can you confirm this?
I honestly don't understand why that fucking engine is so rape any CPU, but I suspect it's because of those fucking LUA scripts.
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That's it bros. I officially made it into the top league.
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>>575479905
It's really inconsistent when the game starts chugging on console. A hoard of pox gassed groaners can be lit on fire and soulblazed and the game runs perfectly fine, but I can start getting 15 frames during some random event for seemingly no reason. The alarm segment on Archivum Sycorax is the biggest offender
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Can you Gweilo, stop shitting on Hong Kong Havoc? Chinese players now avoid accepting people with English names. All my Havoc run today were filled with Americans/Europeans.
Gweilo Vet.
>Point blank all bursters.
>Can't use the voice for shit
>Always run out of ammo despite being hording all to himself.
Gweilo Zealot
>Manage to die first despite a martyr build.
>0 damage against boss
>Spam Chorus, always on Cooldown at the worst moment
Gweilo Ogryn
>Refuse to tank or can't even tank.
>Want to try out a meme build from Ryken XIV on Havoc 40
Gweilo Psyker
>Jump ahead of the team and raped by ragers
>Place a bubble a continent away from team.
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>free weekend is over for KF3
well, /vg/? Did you have a blast?
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Gweilo psykers are the retards that somehow choke one the most busted build in the game; that one smoke staff, perilous combustion, and shriek build.
Also I don't think they're necessarily from US/EU. They're English names can be from shitholes like the philippines and indonesia which would explain the retardation.
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>>575481121
I got gunslinger to 30, concluded it's OP, got bored of hell on earth difficulty, and uninstalled.
Also, Devlin being the only female character and having 99% of her voicelines being word for word marvel quips and low brow writing cliches
>Erm, that just happened!
>I don't even know you!
>Well, he's...muscular!
Is intolerable. I am well aware there is another female character but she mixes in spanish in her dialogue and the subtitles for it are [Speaking Spanish] so they can rot in hell.
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>>575481382
Yeah? Well I've got... a knife!
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Daimon Blades!
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>>575481382
I only played like three rounds before I thought it's too much of a hassle to learn the movement again and dropped it
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So I've been using the helbore in havoc40s and am honestly surprised how powerful and ammo efficient it is. Not taking any ammo packs at all and always at full ammo even when spamming sometimes. It really sucks you really do need 3 mods to make it work though like previous posters said ie the auto charge on aim, weapon fov to actually see when aiming, and crosshair replacer to get a crosshair when aiming.

Also got a first no team downs run of this havoc season-thing the other day after who knows how many 35+ runs with a desperado scum I brought along that was pumping with the dual auto pistols. Honestly funny how people probably auto-decline scums with that ability considering I almost never see it and how good it apparently is.
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>>575476280
Bredd is still funny to me
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>>575481173
Never had a single competent gookrune on my team. The slant eyes are on the same level of braindead as slavrune retards. They all get declined.
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>>575455927
They are weaker than marines. Objectively so. They're close enough that it isn't unreasonable that bolter bitches can fight marines.
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hey guys!
do we still play vermintide here?
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>>575480676
>stop shitting on Hong Kong Havoc?
It gets shit on because chinks are bad at the game.
They genuinely believe that westeners are playing a different version of havoc because western players are capable beating H40 with stuff like devil claw swords.
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Pskyer quelling should be more like vermintide: slower and causes self-damage.
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>>575443651
I will accept increasing the peril generation of the flame staff primary fire by 600% per puff and a rate of fire nerf so that you can only puff once every 2 seconds.
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>>575482739
i too was confused at psyker quell not dealing self damage
can only imagine how oppressive sienna would have been if that were the case
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>>575442718
>The proper fix for inferno staff is to make its resource economy much worse
Or, simply make the inferno staff be unable to cleave through large enemies like bosses and ogryms
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>>575483027
There's a reason psyker is the strongest class
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whats wrong with having op/strong weapons? (genuine question)
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>>575485197
That there are bad weapons which you have no reason to bring
>just buff them so they are also good
Yes, I wish FartShart did that
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>>575485197
what the anon said above and that when they add new weapons they are automatically compared to the meta weapons, so must either surpass them or equal them to be considered ""good""
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>>575485197
retards getting mad that you don't play top meta. And frankly they are partly right
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>>575480124
So... what do I do now? Play the other three classes that are left (Psyker, Skit and Hive Scum) or do I now just try to get better to do the most difficult stuff?
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>>575485907
those three are all fun and are definitely worth a go
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>>575486205
I wonder if playing every class before mastering one is a good idea but I feel like it is because whenever I try a new one I notice game mechanics that I'm lacking at, which weren't noticeable to me before.
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>>575485197
Having some weapons be stronger than others? No problem. Having some weapons be orders of magnitude stronger? Big problem. It isn't healthy for the game if some players want to engage with playing the game, caring about precision, spacing, movesets, and target prioritization, but someone just holds down M1+M2 and deletes the entire screen for free and will just do it again in 2 seconds.
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While we're dog piling on pysker, here's some more:
>flamestaff cannot crit
>emphatic evasion only procs on melee crits.
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>>575486948
It can help you better understand how to play with teammates using other classes and abilities, but I wouldn't say it's necessary
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>>575485197
When they are so overpowering and strong it breaks the game and you're practically griefing the team if you aren't bringing the weapon. For example, psyker's flame staff.
Which then makes every other weapon option pure dogshit that might as well not even exist, and you feel bad for running the worse ones.

Also OP weapons can be extremely cancerous to game balance over all if the developers are morons who then go and start balancing the game around the OP shit because they genuinely don't understand their own game because they don't play it at a relevant level. Like buffing enemy health, increasing enemy spawn numbers, nerfing different OP blessings multiple weapons share. Which can have a knock-on-effect which makes all of the already worse weapon options even shittier to run.
Make a guess what Fatshark did.
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>>575483027
>i too was confused at psyker quell not dealing self damage
>can only imagine how oppressive sienna would have been if that were the case
Extremely so, as seen by launch day vermintide 2. Version 1.0 of vermintide 2 granted temp HP from ALL kills, not just melee ones. So Sienna could just fucking nuke a horde, spend a small amount of HP to quell, replenish that HP by nuking a horde again, and repeat. Requiring her to engage with melee to replenish her HP helped keep her in check.

Worse still, launch day ratclick had this "technique" called "wigglemancy". There was a ranged weapon blessing called "resourceful sharpshooter" that reduced the cooldown of your ability by 5% per crit. At the time, the beam staff would instantly apply a hit to a target when you first touched the enemy hitbox with the beam. By rapidly wiggling your crosshair over targets, you could achieve an effective rate of fire of one billion and instantly replenish your ability. Her ability was to release a flaming skull that would automatically seek and kill everything in the field of view. I think at the time she had a talent to fully cool herself down when using her ability too. So there were a ton of incompetent retards getting carried to difficulties where they didn't belong, and they'd effortless faceroll the entire map right up until the very INSTANT that some enemy got lucky enough to sneak up behind them into melee range. Then they'd crumple in an instant because they had zero clue how to melee. That got nerfed multiple ways. The initial tick can no longer crit, resourceful sharpshooter has a 4 second internal cooldown now, and I think pyromancer lost the cooldown on ult talent.

Modern day sienna can technically go-infinite with ranged attacks. Necromancer can replenish THP at range with pic related and stay positive on THP, but she can't go full retard because the souls can't steal THP if the entire screen is already deleted.
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>>575481742
Kek based Ashley (they’re even worse in my experience since they accumulate weird vendettas even easier)
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>>575485197
Bad for build variety. Like why do chainswords and thunder hammers exist at this point?
They both have specials intended for killing armor, but a knife and dueling sword does that faster while giving you enough mobility to avoid attacks.

60% of this game's weapons could disappear and it would have minimal impact on the meta because everyone's running the same thing.
Especially with Psyker staves because it's like 90% smoke staff
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>>575490007
I think that the chain weapons should probably be reworked to be more like the relic blade/power falchion. Instead of committing to a suicide attack, temporarily rev them up to empower the weapons with greater performance.
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>>575407681
What "game" is it from, or which thread on vg should I visit if I want to see more animations like these
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>>575490574
That's girls frontline 2: exilium. The generals are /gfg/ and /gflex/. Why are there two? I don't know. Drama I presume. Gflex is focused on the GF2 while gfg talks more about the franchise in general including the first game, the sequel, and the other spinoff games.
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>>575491002
thx gamer
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UP IN DA CLUB!
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>>575480676
I dunno I never shat on HK havoc. Most of my HK games are pretty consistently very high quality. Even with less skilled players, the game turns into a slog, but not commonly a wipe. EU is wipe city but the good teams are the best you'll ever see. NA-E has been the most fun fucking around with meme teams doing meme builds and laughing on voice because there's no language barrier, but the overall skill was kind of the lowest in my experience.

I have the highest latency to HK, yet I still prefer playing most of my games there.
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>>575490303
That would be good, but I wouldn't be surprised that devs specifically aren't doing that because it feels too samey to the relic blade.
Like it is obvious that they are dead set on keeping the "latching" attack on the chain weapons, but if they want to keep it only way to make this shit tolerable is that they need to do
>1. tremendeusly buff the damage on the "latch" to make it worth doing instead of just spamming M1
>2 . you can dis-engage the latch before it finishes to dodge enemy attacks. Or they give you like 50%-75% damage reduction during the weapon's sawing attack so you don't dicked over for trying to use the weapon as intended.
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>>575480676
How do you even see their parties? I never see chinese characters in matchmaking or party finder at any hour of the day so I assumed they had separate matchmaking servers
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>>575491120
>>575490574
i look like this
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>>575493208
Do you do anal?
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>have no games to play
>picked up killing floor 3 for $16 on g2a
I will have to go without one kebab, but I will have a blast...until something better comes out in august...
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>If I don't take care of the poxburster it will explose on the team
>everytime
I'm tired boss...
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>>575492890
If we have to keep the latching specials, then we shouldn't have meme tax blessings revolving around the attack. Take all of the weapon special blessings like blood etter, blood thirsty, Rev it up, and any that I'm forgetting and make them all baseline for chain weapons. Arguably you should also be immune to ranged attacks since you are too close to the target for shooters to get a clear shot and you functionally are using the latch target like a human shield.
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>>575494650
Poxbursters are the only special that still makes me feel concern.
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>>575494650
not your problem
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>demonhost is triggered
>I'm 3 miles away from it, didn't even shoot it nor in its direction
>it attacks me
Thanks fatshark I really love your games I hope the next one will bankrupt you
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In light of recent failed hard stratagem runs, it's an honor to be joined by men...
AND NOT UNDER-LEVELED NO TEAM PERK COCKSUCKERS LIKE JOINED MY LAST 3 GAMES, THEY SHOULD FUCKIN' DIE!
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>>575496615
And you took a million damage too
Yikes!
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>>575496615
>OGRYN only doing a million damage
Is this heresy
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>true Survivor skitarii has his tag button on lmb
I just want to die I'm tired of these niggers.
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>>575496887
1 million damage is standard for a melee ogryn.
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>>575496887
on a quick and painless auric run i average around 600 to 700k damage on my ogryn and am rarely not the one outputting the most damage. If you're moving at a steady pace there simply won't be enough spawning to get you into the million damage territory
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>>575498512
>on a quick and painless auric run i average around 600 to 700k damage on my ogryn
Not bad for a 12 minute mission

At around 25 minutes you should be hitting a million every time
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>>575468549
Isn’t Cain’s whole thing that he’s also exceptionally skilled but just really cowardly too? He’s taken on Orks and Tyranids before iirc
>>575467031
Don’t forget all the sources talking about the sheer level of difference between the plate armor marines wear and the “powered armor” non marine humans wear.
>>575475018
I’m sure I had more of these laying around but i can’t find them now…
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Man I fell in love with the relic blade, I don't wanna level up anything else
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>>575499643
Wish the eviscerator felt nearly as good as it
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The EU server is truly full of low IQ retarded niggers is it the same on the NA server?
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>4 hive scum in event mission
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>>575499871
How to fix eviscerator
>heavy attacks do more carapace damage
>heavy attacks and special attacks always stagger crushers
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>>575499643
its definitely the best zealot melee
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>>575500714
it's a retarded nigger world i'm afraid
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>>575499643
Any good build with it that's not fatmangus?
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is hive scum worth buying?
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>>575500883
Sorry, we can't have the fucking armor-shredding chainsaw do more carapace damage than a rapier, a ka-bar or a couple pieces of sharpened rebar
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>>575501346
Buy the deluxe edition
Fatshark deserves all the money they can get
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>>575494916
For me, it's trappers
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>>575501346
Hivescum is one of the better classes but his twitchy dodgy gameplay wont be for everyone
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>>575501346
Hive Scum is Hive Fun. Whether Desperado range build or Rampage melee, it's high speed slaughter where the real trick is remembering it is okay to let your skill cooldown and not chase kills to keep it going.
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>crusher takes a whole belt of stubber ammo
Is there a weak spot?
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>>575468549
Eisenhorn gets exponentially stronger, as does Ravenor. Abnett wanting to show off different feats from either compelled him to do so. In The Magus, Eisenhorn fucking does a "nothing personnel kid" on a Chaos Dread IIRC. In the third Ravenor book, at the end, Ravenor is called a Alpha+ Psyker but that claim is tenuous since the person making the statement wouldn't really know what an Alpha+ could do, but he does progressively take on stronger and stronger daemonic and psychic threats. I haven't read the Bequin books (I am waiting for the last one), so I have no idea if Abnett toned the two of them down in strength or affirms that they are both much more powerful compared to how they started out.
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>>575502332
They are completely Carapace, but headshots and hits to the rear still do more damage than the rest of the body.
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>>575499271
His thing is that he is supernaturally lucky and unlucky. He keeps accidentally saving the day against insurmountable odds, which results in him becoming more important and sent to increasingly hopeless situations. But yes he also is in peak physical fitness and is a master duelist with the chain sword.
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>>575477094
Alfred-Gorithm
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>>575502332
Shoot their fingers
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>>575500714
95% of the playerbase is made of turboshitters, deal with it.
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>>575501346
It's the cooler zealot (yes)
Full stam Rampage build is borderline retarded
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>>575501346
depends.
Scum is for real gamers only. You may not be worthy.
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>>575503168
Hands and feet have 50% damage reduction against most guns. Responsible for more than one gunner or shotgunner surviving what should be a sure kill with their ultimate hand block twitching.
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>>575502000
>art work of scum dual wielding a crowbar and bone saw together
>this isn't a dual wield option in the game
I HATE THESE FUCKING HACKS
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>>575502332
>this retard is unloading his stubber into crushers
Yikes
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>>575502332
Your melee weapon
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>>575505035
How do I shoot my melee weapon?
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>>575504468
>activates special
>flips crowbar and switches toxins
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>>575503975
>game doesn't check if a projectile that hits the hands would have also hit a normal part of the enemy and count it as a body/head shot if so
ngmi fatshark
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>>575477115
thats not how shattering impact works
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>>575505097
You get close to the enemy and click the left or right mouse button.
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>>575505460
It puts brittleness on nearby enemies despite what the description says
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>>575505840
I'm playing on Switch
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>>575504912
It's bullshit, I need kraken bolts lol
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>>575501346
it's the funnest class to play. people like to bitch and whine about it somehow being inappropriate but hive gangers getting involved in a hive city war is the most lore-appropriate thing about this game
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>>575496887
>heresy
the team does like 900k damage in TOTAL in heresy
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>>575507206
People were just making shit up to be upset about because they wanted the next class to be Skitarii
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>>575505139
God, that would've been fucking bad ass. Actually fucking cool as a weapon and a gimmick.
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>>575506024
I now understand why some of you guys say that I don't hate Sweden enough.
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>>575507206
I don’t think it being lore inappropriate was anyone’s complaint, it seems more like it was just a conceptual letdown to go back to the crusty poorly armed downtrodden angle after coming from the high of the Arbites, plus the whole fiasco with the last minute one week cancellation definitely didn’t help reception
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>>575508827
>>575508827
>>575508827
>>575508827
>>575508827


MOVE
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>>575508384
It works the same way with skullcrusher and thunderous.
The ogryn power maul explosion applies skullcrusher onto enemies hit by the explosion, same goes for the Crusher maul which has access to both skullcrusher and thunderous.

Ogryn power maul is special in that it has power surge which causes the power maul to explode twice immediatly, if you hit a caparace armored or a flak base armored enemy. (so basically almost any enemy in practise since flak is the most common armor type and carapace gets spammed a lot"
This secondary explosion is what allows ogryn to apply 80% skullcrusher onto a mixed horde at will.
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>>575421286
I wasn’t talking about those ones
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>>575366803
>>575369980
I thought I read somewhere that they were all women
Weird
>>575493291
Only on sundays
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>>575354708
I might look into it too then thanks
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>>575457282
>"the literal faith of the mechanicus isn't faith"
Retarded tertiary.
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>>575512426
Your fear of women doesn't make me wrong.



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