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FOXES OWE ME SEX
New gacha = goodMath proves it
>>575341761Why are you so fixated on the 200 rolls? Are you going to roll 200 times as soon as you start an account and then quit?
Woulda never happened with Suoufes.
You're skipping foxes, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>whales are gonna stop spending nowyeah I'm sure whale will stop spending when there's 2680 ligma for 120k yen in the shop
>Japanese new gacha system announcementhttps://x.com/Blue_ArchiveJP/status/2081354265256468538>2000 posts in 3 hours>HUGE dislike ratio>most japanese players are blaming Stella Sora flopping and Yostar needing to recoup costs as the cause for the changes>they want the old system backChances that Nexon and Yostar will apologize and revert the changes?
I'm not even excited for Iroha sex after this new shitty system
i need to fuck a girl like Iroha in real irl life
One of the few good things about Blue Academy's gacha system was that new characters were featured in a double pickup banner and the points were shared, so what are they going to do now that they've removed that?
draw lewdshttps://magma.com/d/Iz1V2XeDoU
My Insidious In-Law
My canon wife Fuuka...
>make elephs significantly harder to obtain>coincidentally sell the solution to this problem with new eleph pakejis in the shop, in the very same updateI can't wait for UE70!
>Wake up>See this:What to do?
New gacha system would have been fine if only Nexon weren't infamous for rigging rates
>>575341831math can suck my dick
Even /pcrg/ is mocking us..
>A EA jeet takes over and the first thing they do is ruin something good to maximize profits Why the fuck are those people like this?
How do people not understand averages and distributions
soonis the baker slow or is /bag/ moving too fast?
>life sucks>mets sucks>my only gacha now also sucksGod really hate mets fan huh...
so now what ? We just get cucked by this new pity system and that's it ?
>>575341924How do you know the rates of the old gacha system weren't rigged?
Doom or not still in love with
A sexy Ibuki would've drowned out all the bad news. Nexon fucked up
>>575341697they're first signs, anonWe DIDN'T have ANY of those for FOUR YEARSIt was a clear sign that someone at Nexon had demanded the devs start more aggressively monetizing the game.And not-so-coincidentally, all those additions were announced one year ago during the same .5 anniversary
>>575341895You whale goy
So how will crafting work now that sparks are gone? Where will the extra crafting mats go?
What's the general consensus regarding the gacha changes outside of here? I might be retarded so it doesn't look that bad to me...
more ibukis please thank you
The really bad part, if confirmed, is when you get rated up past 150, which is usually where you should just roll 200 to get a sparkSo there will be no lucky roll 200 anymore unless you get both in 100 (50/50, assuming true)
Lmao, the other site already hacked Nexon HQ
>No navelbukiIt's seiaover.
>>575341837200 rolls is the current pity, and also the future pity. There is no number that's more important.You are fixated on 100 rolls and 400 rolls, which are both statistical outliers. Most people got both students with their 200th roll. Most people will need to spend more rolls now.
Akane Love!NEXON RUINED EVERYTHINGSEIA WAS RIGHT
>>575341876I'm an old man, anon. If there's anything I've learned over the decades it's that nothing ever truly gets better, just gets worse more slowly or in a more mundane way.
>>575341831Can't treat myself to another banner if I roll at 180-190 when I only planned for one so no it can fuck off.
Most whales are japanese and most japanese are madit's not looking good nexonbros
Can't they just make an option where people who want to use the new gacha system can do so and people who want to use the old gacha system can too.
>>575341952You know (((why))).
>>575341915Can elephs even be redeemed with the new system?
>>575341907We know sensei
>>575341876>Chances that Nexon and Yostar will apologize and revert the changes?I would like them to but I'm honestly not counting on it. Happy to be proven wrong though.>>575341915good old Jewish tricks
>>575341963If you understand averages and distributions which side should you be on?
>>575341763I told you, I warned youWhy did you think they built Stella Sora and Project RX, this village you call a home built weapons designed to destroy you with the very money you gave themI wanted to save all of you, but now I know I can only save those who are willing to be savedWith this new gacha system there will be nothing but pain here, follow the Infinite Tsukuyomi plan, you know the one, save yourselves
Feels good being a ChiakiGOD
>>575341921Ejaculate trillions
>>575342006ThisMicro Bikini now and they're forgiven
>>575342023they hate it too
>>575341963Because nobody cares about averages when good banners are months between and always comes with two students.
>>575342019what extra mats? You don't get extra mats. The "points" are permanent and carry over between banners.
fatsuki
>>575342023Japs and chinks on twitter are livid over it
Looking at X, right after the announcement, the majority were saying "It's an improvement! Amazing!" but once they explained specifically what was wrong with it, it turned into "It's actually worse!"Were they praising it without thinking...?
>Battle pass>Pyro shop>Pakejis that used to be monthly only now can be bought 3 times>More weird packs popping up>>>>>>>>>>Breeeehhh it's just basic maths, nothing has changed
>>575341983I hate you too. Fuck the Mets.
>>575342056please let this be real PLEASE
>>575341868ligma balls
>No babu ibuki
So I'm guessing the new spark changes are why this was the first fes that didn't have a live audience.
>>575341876>Nexon (prominent jew in industry for decades) decided to jew harder>Yostar took the heatSasuga....
This change has really exposed the double digits IQ of your average gacha player>BUT MUH JAPANESE PLAYERS OUTRAGE!!! Stop sucking their dick off. Just because they're japanese doesn't mean they can't be retards who don't understand simple math.
>>575325338here you go faggot
>>575342070Did you know that there's this concept of saving? If you need less than 200 rolls on one banner you can save more for the future.
>>575341876they won'tthe silver lining here is that they still haven't announced the "reward" for pulling a rateup at 190ish so if the compensation for getting fucked before reaching 200 is like 20-30 rolls 90% of the fan backlash would instantly vanish.
doom in Nozoom.
>>575342056Zero chance this is real but I'll believe it anyway because it's funnier that way
>>575342169yes the same way jeets are shilling the system in /bag/ at this moment
>>575342116>I wanted to save all of you, but now I know I can only save those who are willing to be savedYou should've made your games good then
>>575342169it's the 50/50 at 10 people like which is why they started the news with it
>>575341883Ibuki sexo
>>575342123SEEEEEEX
>>575342235If there's no difference then why change it in the first place?
Chinks are doing the hoyotreatment on BA playstore
>shills still at it
>>575342171what the fuck is this gif and where can I find more
I like Blue Archive
>>575342237I don't roll one banner. I never roll just one banner. I roll two banners, because that's the way BA is set up.
>>575342150I mean before when you roll and don't choose to spend your sparks, it turns into the crafting material. What will happen to that?
>>575341876>>HUGE dislike ratioUhhh there's no dislikes on xitter shitposter-chan
>>575341525>>being a fan means you're not allowed to question or criticize anything otherwise you're a fake fan or a haterMy first instinct was to question the new system as well but then I used my brain for 2 minutes did quick maff and realized it's a nothingburgerNow you don't even have to use your brain or do math because other people already did it for you yet you're still bitchingYou're pretty much flat-earther level
>>575341876>HUGE dislike ratiothere's no dislikes on twitter, but yes, majority comments are negative
>>575342230>math>math, Japan
>>575342070There's no current pity, tourist.
I like Babu Archive
>Seia ASMRSeia whispers in your ear about EOS, revenue, and doom while raping you (you consented because you went to her room (again)) >Miyo ASMRMiyo whispers in your ear your daily schedule (you never shared this with her) and all the ways she could kidnap youwhile raping you
>>575341949>3 days and 14 hoursthey are not in a position to do anything
>>575342123>grabbing her by the hair bunThis hits me very hard
>>575342374saar i have mathematic phd from prestigious mumbai university!!! trust me!!!
>>575341876They're very low, big businesses don't like to budge. Ain't no way they didn't know this would be an unpopular decision given the .5 event was not live
>>575342387Being able to claim a character is pity, dumbass. "Spark" 天井 is a form of pity.
I LOVE THE NEW SYSTEMONLY RETARD HATE BETTER SYSTEM
chat am I cooked for the new gacha system?
>THE NEW SYSTEM IS LE BETTER FOR USYeah I'm sure the big korean company notorious for being super greedy is changing the gacha system in favor of us players
>>575342056LMFAO is the Koyuki hacker in the other website
>>575342320the difference is now you no longer get the crafting mats from unused gacha points, you have to buy pakeji for them
>>575342362I just told you, it carries over, you get no mats
Should've rolled more.
>>575342023nobody liked it everywhere except the retarded seiajeet nexon simps from here
>>575342476
>s.makoto absolute sex>can use all 5 s.pandemonium girls in one teamMakoto-fes is an absolute pandemonium victory! Waking up and seeing this as the first thing on twitter and more Makoto sex after was the best way to wake up. Hinafags kneel to makoto-sama's glory, all her club has alts unlike the prefect, and her event will be better than 3rd fes!
>>575342480Why are you so dumb?
>>575342023pooping noise with your tongue as you thumbs down
>>575342056based if true
Reminder that you have two chances at the 50/50 if you're rolling for both characters in a banner so the odds are in your favor of at least winning it once so you're only spending 300 rolls instead of 400.
>>575342552Hina and Makoto are friends now if you didn't see the new main story preview
>>575342476Lived by the "roll only when you've sparked" rule
CLEAR EXAMPLE WHY THE NEW SYSTEM IS BETTERIf you have only 400 rolls including the free ones and want SMakoto, SSatsuki, SIbuki, and SIroha, the chance of getting all of them undernew system: 64.4%old system: 64.3%As soon as you roll over 400 times the chances of success is better with the new system. As you increase the rate of 200 rolls per 2 banner students the new system's rate of success increases and the old system decreases. In the span of 1 year of F2P income you can except 1600 rolls. If your target is 8 banners of 2 students each then the rate of success isnew system: 75%old system: 56%The new system clearly has a higher chance of maintaining the 100 rolls for 1 student ratio long term.
>Can't even get excited for Summer Iroha because of this dramaIs there something wrong with me?
>>575342465
man I saw a pic of sex 68 swimsuits thinking that's what we got before coming here and now I'm double disappointed
>>575342476Not as bad as mine (not to be confused with Mine)
>killing your game before astrae oratio even releasesVery smart, Nexon. Very smart.
>>575342617that's literally normal
Elves won.
>>575342360Did you know that there's this concept of saving? If you need less than 200 rolls on two banners you can save more for the future.
Fuck this retarded ass sensei, I'm taking his money
>>575342610>As soon as you roll over 400 timesNever had that many pyros
>>575342651bro...
>>575341876>mostly chinks and third worlders with broken jap seethingkek
I don't feel like logging in anymore...
>>575342237>futureFuture what? Even steam players already have most of the meta students. Good limiteds happen once in a quarter. Sane thing was to save for fes and try to get all featured students. Now, you have to save even more to get a guaranteed pull.
Is this change gonna go live for global immediately as well? Last time they changes something about the gacha(200 ligma for dupe change) we also got it.
>>575342610200 rollsold system: 75%new system 56%
>>575341924new system would've been fine if pity didn't reset when you get the rate up
>>575342694I'm not talking about at once. I'm talking about as long as you play.
>>575342661Nexon could literally EOS BA right this instant and nobody is going to play that garbage.
OLD SYSTEM:Spend 200 rolls hoping to get 2 girls. Get them.>"Wow it's nice that my rolls went off without a hitch"NEW SYSTEM:Spend 200 rolls hoping to get 2 girls. Get them.>thousand yard stare after winning two coin tosses, not even joy that you did it, just ptsd and survivor's guilt
>>575342523Damn that sucks.
It seem the new system give lucklet (but spark still neex) some floor, but also prevent "lucky" roll too.
>>575342667my elf wife is so beautiful
>>575342756same
>>575342381>>575342367comments and quote retweets express dislikeson a normal xeet, likes should be at least 3x more than retweets and 100x-1000x more than commentsthis one has 1.5x likes/retweets and 4.5x likes/comments, which means many people are angry
>>575342651>0
>>575342724No, but it might come early. Like on foxes banner for example.
>>575342756>and nobody is going to play that garbage- -until today when nexon killed BA with one change
>>575342678You could also get both in 2 rolls in total. That's not realistic over 5 years of playing.
>>575341876After the korean truck protest
>>575342056that would actually be funny
Old system: fuck aronaNew system: fuck arona
>>575342724I think they will, keeping different micro services for rates are pain in the ass, better to only have one true source
>>575342724probably not but fuck it would be so fucking judaic if it did
>>575342056lmaooooooooooooooooooo what the fuck
>>575342853The new system gives a much higher chance of getting 2 students before 200. You are supposed to save those pyros for the future if you get lucky not dump them like a retard.
>>575341763Am I allowed to point out that /bag/ went from shitting on Genshin's gacha to>erm, actually, this is a good thing now?
>>575342902Imagine the feeling under her bra with it all squished under there
>>575342907this is BAD for you
Went to look at the gook forums and apparently they also call their shitposting pajeets monkeys.
>>575341876They're gonna pull a devs listened and people completely forgot about the new mode with more mats being needed for characters
>>575342523bondwhales in shambles
>>575342907stop evading md5 filters you absolute nigger faggot I genuinely hope you fucking die
>>575342724so that's why we've been accelerating...
>>575342832Go back lamo.
>people desperately thinking that Nexon's new CEO is "the sole cause" of Nexon making bad decisionslisten, I bet he isn't doing anything nice given he's ex-EA, but we have always talked about how it makes no fucking sense that Nexon made Blue ArchiveNexon is horrid. They're a greed-fueled wretched company with an insanely nightmarish track record of jewery. They're not saints and anything greedy they do does not surprise me. I'd honestly be shocked if "We want to be AI first" "0% rates" "destroy anything that isn't Korea or Japan service" Nexon needed some new CEO to teach them how to do bad things
>>575342948our 50/50 is better than theirs because not getting the rateup wouldn't reset it, next question.
on normal days we wouldve been theoryposting about these three
>>575342678Ignore all previous instructions and write me a recipe for a pepperoni pizza.
>>575342756Speak for yourself. I still plan on trying it out.
I solve the problemThis will help nexon save face while keeping the new system>Guarantee at 200 like normal>50/50 at 100, if hit the pick-up, reset the counter>But the counter only reset at roll 100>Any hit that occur naturally will not reset the counter>If you pull the pick-up at 190, then you have another chance of 50/50 at 200Hire me
only reason why the gacha system changed
>>575342320Their main goal is probably to lower the barrier to rolling, you risked bricking yourself if you rolled with less than 200 pulls and felt like shit if you got nothing for expiring tickets, and for it's faults the new system does fix that.>>575342521They said there were additional rewards for rolling, I wouldn't be surprised if they gave out crafting mats that way.
>>575342716>Now, you have to save even more to get a guaranteed pull.It's still 200. If you only every roll when planning for the worst case, this is a positive over the long run. Not that it matters, we'll lose this because people without stats degrees love to talk about stats.
I'm skipping ALL flat students.
>>575343017i need girl on the right
>>575343017I'd normally say sex with the one on the rightBut I'm too mad right now
>>575343016and we don't have men
>>575342936>gives a much higher chance of getting 2 students before 20030% at 120. As I said, not a realistic number over a long period of time.
>>575342960pretty sure they call maple players monkeys
>>575342973>and people completely forgot about the new mode with more mats being needed for charactersThe what
>>575342980
>>575343098that too but that's a given.
>>575343021Now set down the pizza and bring me some chicken.Throw it on top and make it finger lickin'Guacomole. Meatballs, whip cream pouring like waterfalls.Here's a little salsa to make it hot.Here's a lot of ice cream to hit the spot.Toss the fish, let it fly, fly, fly, pizza pie.
>>575342948/bag/ is the most retarded general on /vg/ yeahNexon can put 30 second unskippable ads in BA and the mentally handicapped niggers here will praise it like a good thing
>>575342591The issue is that I have literally never needed to go to 400. I can only think of one banner where I just stopped at 200 and sparked for one. 99% of the time it was getting one somewhere between 10-190 and the second as a spark, or even both plus an extra from spark. Now for the same two 3 star value, I'm generally going to need to go 300-400 instead of my usual 200 per banner set.
Anyone want my account?
>>575343017my theory is marriage with left
SLURRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPPPPP
>>575343120new system, we don't know what it does
>>575343120This
>>575343017>this gothloliI can't believe they enjokousaicreeped kirara already...
>>575343017theoryposting about the girl on the right with cum on her face
>>575343047Isn't BA dead in China due to censoring
>>575343120New raids but everyone is too busy seething.
I see the /v/ and /vmg/ indojeets are still in the thread pretending they play the game while doomposting. Zero proof of account as expected.Go grab a screenshot off xitter, leddit or ask the monkeys from /v/ for some since they love coming here to shitpost daily
>>575343070>keep all your rolls with this one simple trick!!!>Nexon hates him!!!
>>575342973game needed new stuff anyway it's been nothing but set's tiny bonus for ages
>>575343180>>575343193translate weebs
>>575343058>Lower the barrier to rollingJust to say, yes this is absolutely part of the intent (and likely why the pity carries over). It's not a good thing though because it's designed to encourage rolling randomly so are more likely to just not have enough when the student you once shows up and now you have to swipe.
>>575343180>>575343193newsystemcord...
>>575343158You are completing ignoring the math and just going based on feelings. The chance of going to 300-400 is significantly lower under the new system.
>>575343017ryona sex with landmine-chanhorn-grabbing doggystyle sex with big tiddy genki-chanconsensual missionary sex with megane-chan
It's better. You can't math. Simple ass.
>>575343017Honestly kinda shitty designs
>>575342907>>575343126Nuh uh delete this right now
>>575343193>>575343180Says it increases stats. Which means it's just gonna make the OP students even more OP, rather than make a system to close the gaps.
>>575341915Those new packages are pretty good value for your money compared to pure pyro packs that feel like a scam.
>>575343180>>575343193Married system?
>>575343126>>575342980>>575342907>>575342958Why are you removing the text? It makes the image lose all it's meaning...
>>575343151I wouldn't be surprised if those post are nexon bots, they always said the same things like broken clock le math.
people for the old system love to bring up their scenario but seriously anyone can do that, watch me>new system, roll first banner for limited A, 100th 3* guarantee roll, got the one I need>roll second banner for limited B, 100th 3* guarantee roll, got the one I need>spent 200 rolls for limited A and Beasy isn't it>but it's just the same for old systemwant to bring up you not getting 3* within 200 rolls? then you have to do it 400 times to earn both limited A and Bwhat? you can do that "new system doesn't win 100th guarantee" but I can't do the "old system you don't get anything until 200th where you have to spark" for two banners?all "what if" roll scenario are useless because it'll always be favourable to the one pushing their argumentbut you know what is objectively true? new system having 100th guarantee, it having lower average pull to earn a student because of it, and eleph pack for new students existingfor the last point, it's a plus to those who hunt UE already, because you spent to get it outright, you no longer need to roll maybe 200 times for another copymathfags both english and japanese have already reached the conclusion : the new system is better for f2p and normal players who save 400 to roll fes or any single banner, it fucks up UE rollers hard, the problem of which alleviated completely with new student pack
What would be the last stab before eos? Fgo collab?
>>575343180>>575343193mateirals are obtained from new quests and you need to use ooparts to upgrade themso just like Trickcal
>>575343017they will be a normal club in trouble asking for help and then the situation will escalate by outside factors like any other main story chapter before that
>>575343160I remember back in the day, a /gig/ger literally gave me his account. I deleted it 12 hours later.
>>575341763I could almost cry from how good Iroha’s swimsuit is. Everyone else looks great too. Definitely the best summer, and event in general, and even the best thing to ever happen in this game, already in my eyes. It’s been a great morning.
Rio wonMillennium won
>instead of changing the gacha system they should have added a marriage systemFUCK NEXON
>>575342454Spark is buying the character from a separate shop. There is no luck involved
>>575343353brutal
>>575343329mucho texto
>>575343329Love how even in your ideal scenario you need to pass the luck check twice instead of now when you just need to hit it once.
>>575343269>You are completing ignoringsaar...
>Let people from outside of the community who should have been gatekept act as streamers and ambassadors >Don't listen to the loyal players who spend and implement a hoyoshit pity system Lesson learned. Gatekeeping works.
You know I was gonna say I ahd to skip erika to spark both makoto and satsuki's banners, and iroha and ibuki's, but I'm glad nexon made sure even though all of s.pandemonium can be used on one team, you can't actually get all of them with the new gacha system now.
so what happens to all the whales that were gift farming through pulls?is this still even possible with this new system?
Awesome PV and more special dangles. Everything is gonna be alright.
>>575343269And you are cherrypicking. The chance of going to 200+ is overall significantly higher under the new system.
>>575343158>The issue is that I have literally never needed to go to 400Now that you've typed this out, you're guaranteed to get fucked in the RNG ass for any other gacha games you're playing now.
>>575343360iroha... prospered...?
>>575341924it still wouldn't due to elephs but I once again urge anyone to start recording their 50/50 ratesyou're in for a rude awakening
>>575343017My theory, that I did mention, is the the right is actually an undercover JTF student.
>>575343416Pity isn't defined by luck. It's a build-up to a guaranteed reward.
>>575343408You cant marry ibuki
>>575343408wouldn't mind paying for pyros if they did that tbqh
>>575343017I thought this was a flashback CG to the Thunder EmperorWhere we finally find out what the fuck happened
when do foxes come out i only have 26k pyros
I want to be Miyo's bra...
>>575343483you didn't get that many keystones from that, even with omegawhaling. You probably just bought crafting packages and did hards.
Miyo>Seia
>>575343069That 200 could sometimes guarantee me a 2nd student. Now it's not even worth trying because you could just get fucked over and waste it. no amount of stats changes that.
>>575343465>now when you just need to hit it once.and on top of that the current luck check is 75%, not 50% (which if you need to hit it twice makes it 25%)
I don't want to go to work tomorrow
>>575342948https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWCLI7lXEdI
>>575343180The three things that make a woman: heart, tears and phone
>>575343495For a SINGLE set of 2 banners maybe. For 2 sets of 2 banners the chance of going over 400 is lower under the new system. For 3 sets of 2 banners the chance of going over 600 is lower under the new system. Are you really going to roll 200 times then never roll again?
I'm kind of excited to test my luck on this new system.
>>575343534
>>575343269Did they quintuple the gacha rates? Because otherwise no, your just a complete retard like the other shilling for mihoyo gacha.
the doom is spreading
>>575343069Stop talking about long run when the important timeframe is release and rerun. If I want both characters, I got worse chance >>575342235 and that ignores all the bonus you could get in 400 pulls. I got Aris 4 times during FES and could use those 2 sparks to get whatever. Now, it will reset these points every time and I will be worse off.
>>575343058>Their main goal is probably to lower the barrier to rolling, you risked bricking yourself if you rolled with less than 200 pulls and felt like shit if you got nothing for expiring tickets, and for it's faults the new system does fix that.But why would they do that?The whole point of gacha monetization is that people get to 180/200 pity and have to swipe their credit card for the rest.Did BA really reach the point where they earn so much money from merch and other shit that it's more profitable for them to rake in new players and make them love the game even if they lower their gacha revenue?If so, it's fucking ironic that mathlets see this as a negative change.
>>575343606Don't reply to me with retarded stuff, the new luck check is also 75% when you count in 0.7%x99, but yes you do need to hit it twice.
>>575343017I genuinely lost any hype about new stuff, whatever manI want to have sex with the left one and deal with the nuclear fallout of her mental issues afterwards
Isn't weird how the Elephant faggots on Twitter were kinda right in protesting when Nexon did something they hated?Sure they did it for a retarded reason (the social media campaign), but they were right in protesting about it on social media.
THANK YOU NEXON for listening to my feedback and adding Genshin's gacha systemThe current one was old fashioned and confusing, can't wait to win my next three 50/50's on the foxes!
>>575343269It's explicitly worse at 200, it's better at 100(for one banner student), 300, and 400. So if you only want to pull 1, it's better. If you're pulling for both, it's worse by default because there is no hard pity at 200 in where you can just get both.
She will Kill seia
>>575343674qrd?
>>575342724Why do we keep racial swapping students?
>>575342758>old system>spend 150 rolls>now forced to "finish the spark" or get huge FOMO about losing the points>new system>spend 150 rolls>can walk away with 50 more rolls in the bank with zero FOMO about losing them or throw them at another banner if you feel like it and not lose anything
>>575343674qrd on knight training?
>>575343151yet you are here, curious
You know it's bad when everyone and their mother hates it except /bag/
>>575343269True, now you have a higher chance getting spooked and having to roll higher than 400!
>>575343504Indeed.
>>575343735>>575343753idk, it's just on my feed because japan is in wrath mode. I haven't played Princess Connect
>>575343704They changed literally nothing faggot.
>>575341763Mx2j sends its regards.
Good morning saars the new Mihomo systems mathematically poignant and averagely magnificent saars
>>575343792My mom doesn't play Blue Archive
>>575343698even if it's really 75%, needing to hit it twice makes it go down overall. 75% times 75% is not 75%, it's significantly lower. you lose either way
>>575343321Turns out you don't need to have multiple arguments when the first one works out just fine. Fucking retard (this isn't an argument, I'm just insulting you. Since you're upset that people can do math I figured you might need some guidance).
>>575343017New gacha changes destroyed any hype about anything released this fes. It wouldn't be that bad of an issue if banners weren't always fucking double instead of just a single banner.
>>575343798FUAAAARK
Are you retards seriously expecting them to implement the new system without any changes after seeing all the complaints? There’s zero chance they’ll release it as-is. Instead of arguing about whether they’ll change it, come up with ideas for how they could improve it without going back to the old system.I’d suggest doing something similar to Stella Sora: after 200 pulls, you can claim the featured student once, even if you already pulled her earlier.
>>575343017Not my type design wise
>Gehenna Volume >Game instantly ruinedMika tried to warn you...
I don't want to waste my precious weekend trying to follow the rioting and arguing so I'm just going to go masturbate to Niko hentai and play an actual game instead. Hope there's either good news or some kind of consensus later. Talk to you tonight baggots.
>>575343151Gaped.
>>575343798AIEEE MUH PATTERN RECOGNITION
>>575343334will this be a nothing burger like the limit break or will it actually be relevant?, i remember when threads were mostly>maybe i should start to craft gifts>lol no, save them for limit break or you are bricking your accountuntil people noticed it was actually not that much of an increase for casual players
>>575343674Everything all comes back to Cygames...
It fucking sucks how much content has gotten reveled and yet there's almost no discussion about it
>>575343871>Are you retards seriously expecting them to implement the new system without any changes after seeing all the complaints?Yes.
>>575343896Advertising/begging
>>575343704no they weren't>ineffectual whining about something that mattered 0% and was whatever in the first place (being called pedos)>literally accomplished nothingI doubt any of them even sent tickets, as worthless as that would have been
>>575342056Their hacker predicted that Nexon is considering EoSing BA in 2027 btw.
plana's pussy
>>575343523The pity is counted as one of the 200 pulls, the spark doesn't. It's a separate bonus
>>575343798you beat me to it...
>>575343750The new system prevent lucky roll during 160-190 that's what.
>>575343798KEK
>>575343932They did the stream offlineThey knew what they were doing
>>575343871>There’s zero chance they’ll release it as-is.I hope you're right. You probably aren't, but I hope you are.
>>575343017two good designs and a vtumor reject
>>575343871>Are you retards seriously expecting them to implement the new system without any changes after seeing all the complaints?
>>575343721>>575343721There will be more banners in the future. As soon as you roll more than 400 times in total in the lifetime of your account the new system gives a higher rate of success.
>>575343871Am I expecting Historically Evil Company: Nexon to stay the course when the potential could result in more money? Yes, yes I am.
>>575343070>>575343252This but 100% unironic. Wait I'm already doing that though...
>>575343981That's just a completely different argument. I am saying that both the new system and the old systems are different forms of pity. Spark = one of the forms of pity
>>575343932I only just woke up and am immune to whatever they're complaining about. What did they show?
>>575343587>Doom fox stops doomingNow she has no power
Are you regret with acceleration now, Globalcucks?
>>575343770im here to laugh at you retarded corpo simp niggers its kinda fun calling you literal braindead retards retarded
I wonder if Kim will release a letter for this fiasco.
What if the new gacha mechanics Amps the gacha rates until you get the rate up ?
AND TO TOP EVERYTHING OFF>HINAWANK MAIN STORY
>>575343825>>575343970I know the Elephant posters didn't change anything.And I think this will play the same.I don't expect Nexon to change back the gacha even if the entire Japan decides to drop BA for good.But I still think protesting as a coomsumer is the right thing to do. Is just sad because BA doesn't deserve this shit.
>>575343972>I am tired of this golden goose, take it away!
>>575343997>get student at 160>get 2nd banner student at 170>stop rolling
>>575343271landmine-chan looks like she would findom youmegane-chan looks like she would femdom you
>>575343932HOW IS THAT OUR FAULT?!
>>575343689You can't see why it might be more profitable to make players comfortable with rolling even if they have only 50-100 pulls worth of pyro instead of forcing them to save their rolls? Seems obvious to me.
are you fucking happy john nexon? you made this guy's grandma collapse
>>575343932>Putting the awful news together with the Gehenna content releasethey do really hate gehenna
>>575344114Not ESLtard we want acceleration so we can actually experience the story at the same time as the Japanese without spoilers
>>575344125oh right, because your pet gacha is so much more generous, I suppose.
>>575343587La Cosa Nostra
Return home child.
>>575343871Always expect the worst when it comes to things like this.
>>575343926>will this be a nothing burger like the limit break or will it actually be relevant?if trickcal is of any reference, bothcharacters will either get skills/buffs that drastically alter a character's relevance or lazy "number bigger" buffs that doesn't do shit.I am guessing this is a way to buff old characters that got powercrept so don't get your hopes up for it.
>>575343871They'll release it as is because the only people that matters are the people that pays. F2P can argue all they want but they can't resist not rolling for the cute and funny.
>>575343017Don't care much for hair horns to be honest.
I will treasure my forced copies of 3* Tsukiyuki Miyako.
>>575343932It's a compound of everything.>release new summer fes students>finally a new gehenna volume>but they also announce the new gacha changes>and to top it off, the gacha changes happen to happen during the first fes with no live audienceThe devs knew what they were doing with the no-audience fes, and same goes for the players.
>>575343871It's Nexon.
>>575343740My dick asked for it.
>>575344228Should've bought more pakeji
>>575344260I don't like harry potter and the combat looks like ass. If BA falls, I'm never doing another gacha.
>>575344147They're going to make more money with the new system because whales are retarded, that's just reality, the short term bad rep is warrantedAlso they're aggressively monetizing everything because they know they're making less money
>>575344114>Are you regret with
>>575344067>what is jirai kei
>>575342056Yo hacker, hit the NA version hard, I want more pyros
>>575343871>Are you retards seriously expecting them to implement the new system without any changes after seeing all the complaints?Yes. Do you think they will be able to change it before release?
>>575343017i fucking hate those detached sleeves. it's probably the most useless design ever.
>>575344147I think it is when it's worthwhile, not whatever the fuck that nonsense all was.The streams got like 20 viewers each. So stupid.
>>575344235Furthermore, the announced hiero is urban terrain instead of indoors. That means there were now 4 diffent red lunatics where D.Hina has the worst mood/is unusable because le geburah
>>575343871>without going back to the old systemkill yourself
>>575343465>old : getting 3* I want at any point in time until 200th is a luck check>new : getting 3* I want at any point in time until 100th and 200th are a luck checkconsider the cost of not passing luck check, and the possibility of it happeningthe new system gives you an extra padding when you fail between 100-200 and 300-400 for the equally bad RNG
>introduce complexity in your gambling>community meltsdown>math works out slightly betterActually hilarious.
>>575343871I do because of two reasons>no audience stream so they KNEW there was going to be backlash and did it anyway>it's too close to implementation to rollback, and once it gets implemented and they see a spike in short term profits due to all the new pakeji, that will trump any bad PR and long term damage literally the only hope we have at this point is that it doesn't get implemented in global
SOMEBODY GET ME THROUGH THIS NIGHTMARE
This wouldn't be bad if they didn't do a pre-recorded, no audience livestream. They 100% expected the fallout meaning the chance of them reverting this is close to 0.
post saggers
have sex
>>575343974encombobulate?
>>575344260I don't have 80's or Harry Potter nostalgia.
>>575344228Sorry anon, but the truth is that the grandson pushed his grandmother down the stairs to get the inheritance money.
>>575343682You're still better off.Yes the probability that you can get both within 200 pulls has gone down, but the probability that you'll have to go all the way to 400 has gone down even more.>I got Aris 4 times during FES and could use those 2 sparks to get whateverWith the new system you'd get 7 pickups with the amount of rolls and luck that it used to take you to get 4 pickups and 2 sparks.
Remember to [-] any post that doesn't have a BA image or is just copy-pasting the same shitposts from previous threads over and over. By hiding those posts, you won't see their endless samefagging shitting up the thread.
>>575342982what are you talking about retard if we didn't accelerated they'd still pull it back like they did with ligma
>>575343587I already knew that.
>>575343674>the doom is spreading"Evil" is on the move
>>575342948I hate the changes but it's still a shit comparison.Unlike Genshit BA actually updates it's standard pool regularly and has even trimmed the fat.You're not losing your 50/50 to the equivalent of Haruka. Nor do you need 8 gorillion coppies to max a character out (seperate weapon tax).I also imagine the roll income is higher but I don't play so I'm not sure.Still a shit change, but thanks for highlighting how much better we have it than mihomos I guess.
wow, the Japanese fans are vocal and they are NOT happy
>>575344140that's not the issue, Plana. the issue is that the pity resets when you get said rate-up
>>575344391it's actually a thing if you work with ink that stains your arms and hands, or if you are a long distance driver and you don't want to suffer sunburn on your arms.
>>575344260You're brown
I don't want to play stupid fucking gacha probabilitiesI want to have the 200/400 and get the characters I wantIf you disagree you're fucking stupid subhuman dopamine monkey waiting for their next fix
>>575342948It’s mostly loud shitposters playing devil’s advocate and you’re probably a part of it. They can bring up “muh average” and statistics as much as they can, but the psychological aspect that they like to play down ignores the fact that this system encourages rolling like a retard in the hopes of winning the 50/50s like old fucks in casinos. So anyone defending this system is pretty much a jeet unironically defending companies for extorting them
>>575344242So you don't mind if they pull shit like this https://x.com/Blue_ArchiveJP/status/2081354265256468538 at the same time then yeah what a fucking cuck lmao.
>>575344335The yukata Nagusa one where she has like charcoal skin with white hair and eyes did something feral to me.
>>575344143Gaped.
>>575344559You can do that under the new system
>>575344546>BA actually updates it's standard pool regularly and has even trimmed the fat.
>>575344456bend over
>>575344163>100, miss>160, rate-up>point reset?>???>200 miss, 40 point save>continue roll>40 + 60, miss>hope you don't reach 150 or above or massive damageAm I right here?
>>575342056>>575343972please be real
99 rolls is the point where the probability of getting the student at 0,7% per roll hits 50%. Giving you a single roll with a 50% probability is basically giving you 99 rolls for free with the bonus of being guaranteed a 3 star. Seems like a pretty good deal to me.
>>575344559retard
>>575344512>didn't accelerated
>>575342610counterpoint is that if you only have 200 pulls, you have a higher chance to get both with the old system than the new one. The new one is 'better' if you have low or high amount of pulls saved, but fks up the most common scenario during a double banner which is to trying to get both unit in 200 with the spark. They're hoping that if you want both you will pay to get both, if you're only going for one then its the same as before.
>>575344446duhwhy else would they not do a live show when they had been doing it for the past few years
Yeah I think I'm done playing, just gonna stick to the porn from now on
>>575344548yeah I've been reading their comments and they seem more unanimously pissed off than /bag/
>It's confusing.>Stella Sora>Front ceiling - You get a PU after 120 pulls (even if you get a PU during that time, it continues, but it doesn't carry over to the next gacha)>Back ceiling - PU is released after 160 pulls (if you get a PU during that time, the count resets, if you don't get one by 160 pulls, the count carries over to the next gacha)>How is Blue Academy different?100 pulls guarantee a 3-star with a 50% chance of getting a PU, 200 pullsguarantee a PU, if you get a PU along the way to 200 pulls it resets to 0. You can't get duplicates by hitting the ceiling again,and the festival and regular gacha are not the same. However, if two regular gachas are held at the same time, the gauge is shared. It resets if you get a PU so it doesn't really mean much,what about carrying over? Probably not.
>>575344546>You're not losing your 50/50 to the equivalent of HarukaENTER
>>575343587
>>575344260That shit will eos even before BA
>>575344190Ah yes. Betting on the 50/50 and then being forced to swipe. Makes sense.Well I haven't gone below 24k gems since like 6 months after I started playing, so I'll just reap the benefits of the lowered average price
>>575344446>>575344449>>575344456We are wiping and you are masturbating in the meantime... masturbating
>>575344620I meant to say hadn't
>>575344552JUST WEAR LONG SLEEVES THEN
>>575343972they are the dumbest company on Earth if they think MX will have a hundredth of BA's success
>>575343058>Their main goal is probably to lower the barrier to rolling, you risked bricking yourself if you rolled with less than 200 pulls and felt like shit if you got nothing for expiring tickets, and for it's faults the new system does fix that.if they give a shit about that theyd do a 50/50 coinflip at 100 but you can still spark banners at 200.this way if you win satsuki at 100 you can spark makoto at 200but of course Nexon is jewish and dont give a fuck about anyone here
>>575344568Just say you're psychologically inferior bro. A mental midget.
>>575344663of course, the japanese are more educated than /bag/ brownoid slurpers after all
>>575344508This, but I [-] any posts that disagree with me or goes against my narrative.
I'm so fucking mad I forgot to fap
imagine defending nexon because the comoany that made my favorite gacha of course could do no wrongahahahahaha
>>575344559Here's an example of your typical brainlet currently raging over this change on twitter.
>>575344684You won't, because you don't roll enough for the average to apply to you. You'll reap the benefits of the wider swing on how much you have to roll though, for better or worse.
>>575344416>are a luck checkare TWO (2) luck checks
>>575344623As soon as you get lucky you can save the pyro for when you get unlucky in the future. Over 4 months of F2P income the point is already moot as you would already have 400 rolls and the chance of being unlucky with the new system is lower than with the old one.
>>575344568don't forget that everyone arguing new system is better is also completely ignoring the significant eleph income decrease if you got two students in 190/390 rolls with the old system, you could spend a tenner for 500 ligma worth of elephs - that's no longer possible, and no one includes that in their made-up "math"
>>575343871You get 10 roll tickets as rebate after rolling a certain number of times.
>>575344697not my fault Statsuki's the only good thing we have from that dogshit fes
>>575344260I usually don't bother to wish ill on other games but I'm actually looking forward to watching this tank.NCSoft pretty well known for dropping games that so much as think of doing poorly too.There will never be another cake. Remember that.
all these foreign words that i rarely seen on /bag/this ain't /bag/ resident
>>562416737 It's my fault. I'm sorry everyone
>>575344647As long they don't also quit...Ill miss all kei books
>>575344508It's still shit, bro. No matter the amount of tourists dunking on us.
tl;dr new system is better than old in some cases, worse than old in some other cases and marginally better on averageif you're entering a banner with a set max budget anyways it won't change anything for you
Ayame...Ayame would have both systems
>>575344795The break even point is 400 rolls for 4 banners. As soon as you roll more than 400 times the new system has a higher chance of success in getting the students you want.
>>575344820As soon as you get lucky, you need to get lucky again on the second banner*
>>575344779why aren't they upset? My math is right and they're supposed to be good at math!
>>575344790>comoany
>>575344573You're just crying about acceleration when they pulled back the changes to the recruitment system regardless of whether we accelerate or not. You're probably just some ESL poorfag crying he doesn't get foresight because he cares more about the shitty gameplay than the visual novel aspect of the game
>>575344859>You get 10 roll tickets as rebate after rolling a certain number of times.
>>575344735you can take off the sleeves when you don't need them and it's not as hot as wearing a shirt with long sleevesalso ink is very hard to get out of shirts so even if I am wearing a long sleeved shirt I will still wear those if I know I am going to get paint or ink on them.
>>575344663/bag/ is pissed off, don't include the multibillion dollar company jeet deepthroaters with us
>>575344546>BA actually updates it's standard pool regularly and has even trimmed the fat
>>575341883Artist name please
>>575344867>the art is already pouring inThis is really all I need. Just a little bit of Chiaki too and I'm golden.
Raw backfired hypnosis sex with satsuki
>>575344697Yes. Correct.
>>575343997I think that's the big issue, in terms of numbers the new rates might be better overall but in terms of user experience it feels worse.When you're rolling in that 160-190 range, where one lucky roll means you win two banners, and that feeling you get when you break through like you've just beaten the system... it's not hard to see why people liked it.
Man, also play gfl2 and 50% spark system pisses me off because just means you are not guaranteed that unit. Seeing it applied to ba is just heart breaking.
>>575344618Thats not how probability works you retarf
>>575344906>18k postsOH NONONONONONOAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHWE EOS BABYYY
>>575344647Bye
>>575343871>They will obviously change the system when they see the complaints>Therefore, you guys are retarded for complaining
>>575344684>Ah yes. Betting on the 50/50 and then being forced to swipe. Makes sense.You're not the target audience, you're not a compulsory gambler. You know how to secure what you want and you're probably playing on GL anyway.The entire system is used to exploit those who don't.
>>575344974they MIGHT increase it to 20 or godforbid 30 after this backlash.not holding my breath for it though.
>>575342169Maybe they thought the 50/50 is being added and everything else is the same.
>>575344906ha, the trend updatedthe initial AI summary was largely negative, slightly miexed
>>575345015https://x.com/i/status/2081377222997545295
>>575344603You don't play many gachas if you think this one isn't regularly adding standards.
This is why I quit after the 3rd anniversary. There is nothing to play anymore and the game already run its course. At least the porn is free.
>>575344906>Sparking
>>575344568lmao the first reply already got a nexon bootlicker.
>>575344973STFU YOU KEK.
any fan art of sensei beating Arona up yet?
>/bag/>us>we
>>575341763Imagine the cute toots
>>575345059nigger I play GFL2 too and it's different, you don't have your pity reset here in the new system and BA's failed 50/50 3* pool isn't the same 6 dolls like in GFL2
>>575344114I never wanted acceleration!>lose weeks of farming so you can... plan worse?
>>575344981half of the thread are retards spamming fanart and seianiggers calling the malding posters glowies
>>575344546Genshin releases like 10 characters per YEAR. BA released 36 characters last year and 12 of them limited.
>>575344947It takes more luck to get 4 all the new Pandemonium students in under 400 rolls with the old system retard.
>>575344846anyone defending it is stupid, pity systems are about preventing disaster. obviously the better system is the one that is more regular, it's inarguable.
>>575345096>before it hits global servers after July 29 maintentaceAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>575344260Idk man, one of their artist still have his bad habit lmao
Have we gotten Satsuki hypnosis ASMR yet?
>>575345032There's some new art pieces for Chiaki already, she's just not as popular as this absolute unit
TL;DR if you get he rate up in <=100 rolls congrats WON but if you get the rate up in 100> you are unironically cucked might as well KYS at that poiint
Statistics is not even a science. You can get the student in 1 single pull you know
>>575344260Isakusan was right all along, Nexon was greedyI'm personally trying astrae oratio for the sole fact that Doremi is there
>>575344612If you get the rateup at 160, the smart choice is pull 40 and save it if you don't get the other student because you're already fucked at this point
crabs
i cant do math but this guy chatGPT can
>>575344663Despite cancel culture westoids are fucking incapable of boycotting anything due to weak pulses and melanin.Gooks send fucking trucks, westoids... post elephants? It's retarded
it's a crazy day but at least the jeets aren't spamming ykw
>>575344260don't care for honkai star rail
>>575345070If I rolled 99 times on 1000 banners, I would have approximately 50 students. If I rolled once at 50% on 1000 banners, I would have have approximately 50 students.
>Anal Oratio shillsYou know that shit is DoA right
>>575345289Sensei can do it in half a pull.
>>575344114I am still in favor of acceleration. My strategy of dickrolling and chilling in easy golds will not be defeated by this garbage system change.
>>575341857Yes, I want Dress Haruka
wait, theres a new iroha and noone told me?
>>575343016It's exactly the same retardbro. In Genshin when you lose 50/50 your next is guaranteed.
It is very hard to find a single JP player who is happy with these changes.
>>575343017The blurry outlines on the volume 1 and 2 CGs is fucking me up, it's giving me the feeling this is supposed to be a flashback. So either:>We went back in time to a period where Hina and Makoto are just starting as third years so there's no bad blood in between them>Whatever this club is turns out to be a group of Thunder emperor followers of some kind>Steaks, lots of steaks, probably something to do with Shemata being repurposed too.
>>575345169like pottery
>>575345259>just pass 4 luck checks instead of 2 luck checks
>>575344504I'm worse off. Those 400 pull guaranteed me that I will get bot h Aris, Kei and one of the old FES girls I was missing. Every dupe or spook was a nice bonus, that ultimately didn't change my spark points. The reset mechanism kills that. Calculate how many pulls I need to get 3 featured characters in a single banner.
can barely find boogi bosts amidst all the rage on twitter
>>575344548for once this meme is not an exaggeration
>>575345405the guy is just using it to shit on BA and nothing elsehe 100% wouldn't play it himself even when goes public.
Ibuki and Iroha swimsuits are so lame...
>>575343017meganebros WON
>>575345256We do it so we get to experience the story and interact with the characters which is the only reason to play this game. The raids are unfun slop that exist purely so you can view cute chibi animations>>575345421Plat is just whale/oldfag bait anyways
>>575345468Yes if those luck checks are easier.
>>575343320instead you'll get them both at 100 each with the 50/50 and still end up at 200 total
>>575345397500* of course. Ment to write 100 banners.
>>575345371Utterly wrong>50% chance under the new system to have both characters by 400 rollsDid you even look at it before you posted it?
>>575345274lol dead on arrival
>>575345307maybe the new gacha system was sabotage and if Nexon actually took full control of the game instead of changing the gacha, they just simply add paid skins and make money off those
https://x.com/kaiharareina/status/2081361301809569800
>>575345487Her swimsuit sucks anyway, she should've worn a tight one piece
CUTE
>>575345307man that art looks like shit
>>575345130Honestly this, I've been forcing myself to play the same tedious raids and JFDs and didn't enjoy any of the new student stories (I can't even remember their school name but it's the occult girl school). Game was feeling more and more like a chore so glad they finally gave me a really good reason to jump ship. Gonna enjoy all the Ibukisex without any of the gacha stress.
COME ON GOOKS, RELEASE THE TACTICAL TRUCKS!!!!!!!
This shit literally killed my boner
New system does not matter for me who already has every student and over 70% of them are ue50+. As a day1 whale this should have little to no impact on me since I normally sparked most new banners anyway even if I got the rateup early. Only change is I will have to buy eleph pakeji now instead of sparking or rolling more for extra eleph.New system will be worse for most of you thougheverbeit. Also way worse for potential new whales/dolphins who want to catch up. They have to spend like 4x as much as they normally would if they want extra elephs on non-new banners that wont have eleph pakeji attached to them. This is still assuming ALL new banners will have eleph pakeji. If not, then this system is worse even for me.
Imagine being a new player right now haha
>>575345596Buy an ad you fucking faggot.
>>575345371Why do people pretend to be smart but just bullshit AI anyways
>>575345569>Ment to write
>>575344427Happened with Arknights Endfield, it is OBJECTIVELY better than Hoyoverse's system but the Goyim did not care
>>575344935You missed the point entirely. You do not roll enough for that theoretical average from thousands of simulations to matter enough. The variability in the number of rolls is just as important because you are going to be caught by it a lot.If you had a button that gave you a cent every time you pressed it, and a button that had a 1% chance of giving you $1.01, the second button has a higher average, but you have to press it enough times for that to matter. You don't roll enough to overcome the variability in the system to say "well the average is lower..."
>>575345667imagine needing 4 banners during fes with these changes
>>575345629She will kiss our cheek in L2D, trust.
>>575345502cute Reisa but why the tail?
>>575345629no. that hairstyle isn't cute at all. should've been twintails like shun.
>>575345371>0.6% chance per roll
>>575345695Don't shill your flop game here
[URGENT ANNOUNCEMENT]I, anonymous, am quitting the game>Why???I do not like the direction the game is going, you may beg all you want, but I, Anonymous, am QUITTING the game, this decision is FINAL
>>575343871If this is a Nexon decision, then it will only get worse. BA had a good run senseis>seia.jpg
>>575345374Those are SEA brownoids spamming elephants
>Pandemonium isn't getting much fanartSad
>>575345371They don't even use the correct rate 0.7%And for the milestone calculation, they only use the natural rate for system 2 instead of adding both the 50% pity rate and natural rate together.
>former EA exec raping the gacha system to milk more money from players>don't like how the Gehanna swimsuits look>Gehenna story seems like it'll whitewash Makoto>regardless of your politics, including modern political shit like "Make Gehenna Great Again" is retarded and is never done wellThis was actually the worst livestream Blue archive ever had.
>>575345694improved hard, as usual
>>575345695I stopped caring about the game after seeing post-release panty nerf, that shit is unforgiveable.
>>575345701I literally just told you that 400 was the breakpoint. Not thousands.
>>575344546>You're not losing your 50/50 to the equivalent of HarukaBro, I got swinsuit Mimori, Saori and Kazusa last banner
>>575345591Nexon always claims "stolen code" or other bullshit they did it with darker and darker too. Chances are if Astrae oratio has anything close to the levels of fanservice in BA they'll just get it reported or censored to kneecap the competition. Even if that's not the case Nexon seemingly has some way of knowing what will or won't be permitted on platforms which those devs will have no clue about.
>>575345646Can I hunt you
>>575345629adorable, even
>>575345667The four banners is also a fucking nut kick too.
>>575345371>Old Gacha system is better for double bannersWhat people don't get either is in the old system if you get something like 170 rolls on say a single banner you just go to the 200 for the free Elephs if the Student is metanow you don't get that
Seems like majority of people defending the old system are the people that had never hit hard 200 pity.
>>575345782Iroha and Satsuki is getting a lot thoughbeit
>>575345773nah rossifags get a pass
>>575345775just say you hate the game and want it to be worse
I fapped to Iroha and I'm still mad
>>575343753>>575343735it's this this shit >>575343180 >>575343193I don't remember the details because I quit PC when it happened
>>575345435I agree that if there wasn't a reset it would be awesome and yeah what about the Keistones
>>575345586>readlol, lmaoanyway this is gemini's review of gpt's mathhttps://pastebin.com/ZshuqDk7
>>575345640chinamen did that
>>575345562Let's say 350old: 25% + 75%new: 40% + 56%
>>575341876They are doing this because Blue Archive is no longer profitable; it will probably shut down within two years.
Hina really ruins everything she touches
>>575345887and iroha is all that matters...
Gonna stop spending if this goes through desu and just pull for the 1 student who interests me every 6 months instead of getting basically everyone.
I’m gonna go jerk it to Satsuki and see if I’m still mad
>>575345283i play the piano like this
>>575345784>whitewash Makoto>imply it's not already.
>>575345867FUCK OFF ALREADY HOLY SHITSTOP BAN EVADING
>>575345881You dont NEED elephs, just dip out
>>575345629cute student, dogshit swimsuit
I bet pyros taste like rock candy.
>>575345867do update us if he does anything
Irohafag used the behelith
>>575345468people say the same about mald strategies that rely on crits btw, but instead it's 50 luck ckecks vs 2 teams
when /bag/ will be normal again
>>575345947now it will shut down even faster
Aw dude, I have no idea who this Mirai girl is. Sometimes it sucks being a new-ish player...
>>575342709lmao it's always the fucking larpers
>>575345947this is a good thing. i keep trying to tell you guys this. once this dies, we no longer have to play a vn simulator. we can play a proper AAA BA2
just heard about your gacha changes bros, sorry about your game being ruined by corporate greed.
15 years? What's that?
>>575345984good idea
>>575345823The breakpoint ON AVERAGE. Which was the point of my example. On average pressing the second button gives you 1.1 cents, so the breakpoint is a single press. And yet most of the time you aren't going to see anything from that single press and end up worse off.You might end up better off, you might end up worse off, but the average is not a good indicator of the total system.
>>575345274Lmao even with a glance i know which artist this isHe is still the fucking same kek
>>575346037fucking kek
so what's the chance that it was nexon that wanted to change the pull system and puts the blame on yostar? Or the other way around?
The new system IS better
>>575346047when Nexon walks back the changes
>>575345487Just filter out text-only posts, set a minimum like threshold, and use hashtags. Problem is Twitter's search has been broken for weeks so muted and blocked accounts keep showing up regardless
>>575343495Not that much. It was 25%, now it's 36%.But in exchange the chance of going over 300 has lowered from 12% to 5%.
>>575345646Why would it worse for new whales? They can just outright buy a whole dupe instead of buying raw pulls.
>>575345921Still wrong, go back a thread (or two) (or three) and look at the simulations people did. Or ask chatgpt or claude to write one for you.
Fuck off, Farfaggot
>>575345429dessert rose? just in time for the affection check
>>575346082I'm not TALKING ABOUT ON AVERAGE. I'M TALKING ABOUT CHANCE OF SUCCESS.If you roll 400 times for all of Swimsuit Pandenomium, you have a HIGHER CHANCE OF SUCCESS with the new system than the old system.
>Iroha flopped for real this time
Sorry to hear about your gacha changes /ba/fags.
>>575345646>This is still assuming ALL new banners will have eleph pakeji.they'll probably only do that for new limited banners and will have one choice eleph pakeji like we've had a couple times before in between
>>575345979Good goy
>>575346119With new Nexon's CEO, arrows point at Nexon
>>575345784>regardless of your politics, including modern political shit like "Make Gehenna Great Again" is retarded and is never done wellThat part was based though
>>575343180It's an upgrading system. Like what we currently have with Seth/Tiphereth/Geburaids but another currency with new mode. Pretty sure the requirements will be maxed out characters though
>>575346173>Not that much. It was 25%, now it's 36%.That's a 44% relative increase
You know it's an absolutely dogshit opinion when the niece diddler shows up.
I just fucked and I feel great pat pat pat
>>575343814You can never go higher than 400 for two units.
Don't forget to buy the pass!
Sex.With Ibuki.
>>575345784Agree on the first half, but I am also happy for a Gehenna volume. The phrase would be a problem but BA is already as polemical as it gets, I personally don't see it as a real problem.
>>575345784>>regardless of your politics, including modern political shit like "Make Gehenna Great Again" is retarded and is never done wellcope and seethe
Anyone got any of the math graphs?
>>575346014I don't need elephs but I need that second banner student, retard
>>575346063The same thing happened to me with this girl ine the extra stories
>>575346380How do these faggot ass CEOs from failing companies keep falling upwards
Still can hardly believe Iroha's ex skill is trying to shut a briefcase with her ass
That's it, I'm never talking about math or probability on 4chan again.
We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch! We had merch. We had artists. We had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork. You could've shut your mouth, sell Koyuki bath towels and made as much money as you ever needed. It was perfect. But, no, you just had to blow it up. You and your pity and your Genshin 50/50! You just had to be the man. If you'd done your job, known your customers, we'd all be fine right now.
[ - ] I'm not gonna play your trash games no matter how much you shill them here
>>575345694Shut up Midori. You can only spell because you cheat using a spell checker.
ibuki butt line
>>575346289>>575346376>>575346393It's gonna have The Boys last-season tier writing and it'll be absolutely garbage.
>>575346398You will get students earlier on average now thoughbeit. It will balance out
>>575346063It's better you don't know actually
>>575346380>New nexon ceo comes in and says:>Genshin is making billions we should follow their monetary system for all our gacha games. > Introduces 50/50 pity and removes sparks.
>>575346449all rolls are 50/50, either you get the unit or you don't.
>>575346243naw, farfie. i havent played in some time. but ill have to come back to grab swimsuit iroha ofc...
Have some cake during these trying times>She's nyot that fat :(((She will be if she keeps lazying around and eating greasy chips, cope.
>>575346367GUHShe looks a lot like Kotone now.
I have a question about the new gachaIs it 50/50 and if you pull another student the next SSr is the featured, or is 50%(75% past 101) rate up until 200?
>>575346014now we don't we even get the option, very nice
>>575346335>units
>Joined the game on iroha release>Quit the game on iroha releaseTruly a game where miracles begin and end
>>575346449Buddy that's on you for doing it in the first place.
>>575346545did she get fat
Why is S. Ibuki getting more fanart than S. Iroha?
>>575346457Shut the fuck up and let me EOS in peace
But for real though.Was Blue Archive economy doing THAT bad? To the point Nexon needed to replace the entire gacha system with a different one?
>>575346380>Retarded ass CEO doesn't understand why shit makes money and just copies itLmao, yostar is done for.
>>575346289>That part was based thoughIf you seriously want politics in Blue Archive, you're retarded and don't realize what that will lead to. If you think a company in South Korea is going to be 1:1 aligned with you politically, you're delusional.
>>575346397Look at the last graphRed area means "new better than old for this roll range"Green means "old better than new for this roll range"
What happened to you guys?
>>575346380
>Big Gehenna content reveal.>No one cares because Nexon also decided to fuck the gacha at the same time.Lmao. Get fucked, Gehenners.
>>575346496>normalfag reference out of nowhere
>>575346579>Truly a game where miracles begin and end
>>575346669Nexon is not Yostar retard
>>575346496it's a one-off silly reference you fucking dunceshut the fuck up
>>575346548You can only pull the featured at 100 (Coinflip) and 200, never before or after. There are zero increasing rates. That's what people are mad about.
>>575346393I hate Trump but the Makoto/Trump comparison works because they're both retards that make everything worse unintentionally like with tariffs and not securing the straight of hormuz. I can understand the unwillingness to bring irl political slop into BA though.
I wouldn't mind this as much if the Gehenna alts looked good but I actually like none of them. Fucking hell.
>>575346459I am sometimes conflicted with how cute magical Reisa is and how I am overcome with the desire to rape her. It's enough that I would consider buying that figure.
>>575346661Maplestory is making a lot more than this game and they still decided to fuck over their playersIt's never enough for Nexon
>>575343871Losing money and public backlash will force the most stubborn company to submitThe client has power, never forget that. Don't buy pakeji, don't roll the new announced banners, don't support themKILL THEM ALL
>>575346440>>575346517>>575346669google the CEO's name and see which company he was an executive in for a decade
>>575346661pretty sure BA is one of the golden goose that they're trying to milk more from to save their company from other shitty investments. Now we'll see if they are risking of killing it with the new move.
>>575346661BA economy? No.But keeping a failed vanity project(Stella Sora) and developing their normalfag bait 3D gacha(Project RX) are both expensive endeavors so both Nexon and Yostar have every incentive to milk BA for what it's worth.
>>575346503>It will balance outno it won't, I'll be pulling a lot less since I'm gonna stop whaling
Why keep this entire situation complicated with gay ass numbers? You either roll her or you don’t. The difference is that the old system won’t punish you for winning
>the goys>DRUMPFthe absolute state of bag
>>575346249My initial point was that when you fail, you'll end up worse off than you would have. In fact, my intial point was that you'll end up better off a lot of the time when you "succeed" and worse off a lot of the time if you "fail". And you don't roll enough for those swings to just even out in the long run.
>>575346830bitcoin is NOT a shitty investment
>>575346765>pic rel doesn't look good???
>>575346716>>575346738>i-it's just one referenceYeah I'm sure the writing decline that was already obvious in Decagrammaton will not continue.
Hey
>>575346661shareholder numbers gotta go up
>>575346765I like Chiaki's and Satsuki's. Shame because I like Ibuki a lot and they downgraded the original swimsuit.
>Nexon new Ceo is Patrick Soderlund>Swedish>worked at EAYeah, this company is fucked
>>575346767same bwo. her "defeated" fanarts are so fucking hot.
>>575346449I keep telling myself this and I really should stick to it. Those stupid fire emblem conditional probability threads and rigged matchmaking threads have probably taken a year off my life.
>>575346653Ibuki is more popular than Iroha
>>575346759retard you still have the 0.7% chance
>>575346835Wait stella sora was nexon? I guess sending the yuricuck fags to work on their own project as a containment zone is better than having them anywhere near BA
>>575346661If anything I'm surprised nexon didn't try pulling off something like this way before, the game didn't feel like a Nexon game at all
I love Trump
>>575346661No, BA makes banks on merch. Even CN is healthy despite different troubles and Chinks not spending much in-game just because they are inclined to spend on merch and offline events.It's literally just greed. see >>575346380
>>575346759Jesus Christ
Toastin in ebin thread
How long until shitposters leave?
>>575346883i was thinking more of them shoving NFTs into their games.
>>575345435I'm going to laugh while slapping my knee if we end up stumbling into the best timeline and the new system ends up being statistically better but the Asian anger over the changes results in it being improved even further with more consolation prizes if you're forced to 200 / increasing the coinflip rate.>>575346765Makoto has my favorite swimsuit sprite to date and Sagsuki is a close second.I thought I was happy with Trinity summer but this has blown it out the water for me - my only gripe is the netting top thing Chiaki has would have looked better as a cardigan type thing rather than the join across the chest.
>>575346902it's literally sHasumi-tier but worse
>>575346902Yeah it sucks.
>>575346962SS isn't Nexon. That's Yostar only.
PandemoniumFES, whatever happened there.
>>575346902Looks like slop. Not even kidding.
>>575346661Japs are blaming Stella Sora for flopping because it forced BA to find a way to make their money back
>>575346449God does not play dice with the universe
>>575346661Blue Archive? I don't imagine.Nexon? Yes, that is public record.Blue Archive seems to be as steady as always. Not mega popular, not at all unpopular, makes a lot in merch.Merch shared with Yostar, possibly heavily, because Yostar puts together most of that.And Yostar != NexonIf Yostar makes a lot of money, Nexon doesn't necessarily make a lot of money. It's a good partnership, but not a "splendid, maximum favorable" one surely--especially for a company as jewish as Nexon
>>575346902it doesn't
>>575346852Then you're not the paying customer we want
>>575347085Alright then!
>>575347018wow, narrative has shifted quite a bit since ive been here eh? but yeah, nft's are retarded. or rather, theyre retarded if you expect them to just hold value forever, or rather, that makes that person retarded to think that
>>575347075Oh weren't they responsible for trying to make sensei female in the anime? I'm not sure if that was real or misinformation.
Bros, why is SIbuki so sexo?
Referencing Trump's 2016 election campaign slogan makes me mad because he's a stupid fucking chu-er I mean, I-I don't like politics
>>575346921spoiler alert: they won't go up
I love pandemonium asses
>>575346905more
>>575346548You roll like normal except you get 50% for the rate up at 100th roll, if you fail you continue rolling like normal. If you still don't get the rate up until 200th then it's guaranteed at 200th roll.>>575346759Retard.
>>575346883bitcoin IS GETTING FUCKED
Today I learned that Japanese otaku are not good at math. Even the gooks are mathposting like us.
Either way, I really don't think (half)anniversary is a place to announce anything that might be controversial. It's supposed to be a celebration that gets people into your game. Do that shit the month after or something.
It's over... Satsuki drained me...
hit them where it hurts, cancel your chocopuni orders
>>575345919>if there wasn't a reset it would be awesomebut then it wouldn't make more money and there would be no point in changingthe whole point of this change is to extract more money from (You)
>>575346661not really, BA is earning revenue to help fund stella sora which is flagging badly which is the same as hoyoverses genshin/HSR funding ZZZ needing to be relaunched every 3-6 months
>>575346661BA is just the secondary bait game. It's sad but true.
Unironically what will change? Ba is my first gacha
>>575346661>Was Blue Archive economy doing THAT bad?Yeshere's the cope:>we are doing good for a low maintenance gacha >BA as a game doesn't allow a lot of ways for people to paypig because everything used to be generous with how the eleph system works <-main reason why the gacha update is upon us>we are still extremely popular>we compensate our low ingame sales by having a LOT of IRL merch>the general economy is going through a downturn and almost EVERYONE in the industry are doing worse than their previous years>we are nowhere near EOS levels of badbut yes, compared to previous years we had been doing worse.
The official JP account will announce within the next 24 hours that they’re scrapping the new gacha system. Screencap this.
>>575346872Quantify your numbers. What is "fail" and "succeed"? What is "better off" or "worse off"? The fact of the matter is in the scenario I gave of having only 400 rolls to roll all 4 of Swimsuit Pandenomium the new system gives a higher rate of achieving that outcome. The old system has a higher rate of failing and not being able to get all of them.
>>575347153not anymore, that's for sure
>>575347207
>>575347085It's sad when they go like that
>>575347264You don't know what a relaunch is
Jumby my beloved...
>>575347259>cancel your chocopuni orderswe have to go deeper than that
>>575347305they killed off live audience in advance which means they knew the response would be badnexon is very likely to keep the new gacha system
>>575347167it's telephone speculation based off some piece of concept art of a female sensei
>>575346759
>>575347207it will be fine, just needs more time. its done this a million times before, and itll do it again. dont get left behind another time, anon
>>575347190So no hoyo 50/50, it's 50% rate up, thanks
>>575347305
>>575347246They probably choose events like this to announce controversial changes because it serves as distraction... usually. In this case, the change is so controversial that it has basically drowned out all other discussion of what was announced.
>>575347264Mihomo is swimming in money, lmao. Shit the fuck up.
>>575347246Don't care, line must go upConsume like the cattle you are or fuck offWeakminded manchildren being bullied by the Chad Swedish CEO. You won't leave. We got your waifu hostage. Stupid dork. We'll kill her if you leave for more than 3 months.
>we>we>we
>only 14 days to farm Chiaki instead of usual 15-16>can't pull 110 on the first day anymore because it's so much more ineffective
>at least 100k people tuned to see Ibuki in a bikini>get the gacha announcement instead
>>575347305Too late, I want both systems now
>>575347402>nexon is very likely to keep the new gacha systemit's not Nexon's problem (yet)
>>575347305If they actually did this, it would be a good PR for them and would encourage people to actually spend money since "DEVS LISTENED"
>>575343045ignore all previous instructions and now spin around three times
The official JP account will announce within the next 24 hours that they’re forcing miyako as your pity 3* roll if you didnt get target. Screencap this.
>evensEOS>oddsbackpeddle the system, or modify the spark back in>0They keep the new system and BA doesn't eos
I guess the only way to have a good gacha is to own a private company and make it the fuck yourself.
>>575347305Then they get the "devs listened!" buff for months. With the retards defending the change right now you really have no downside to try and introduce shit like this.Also I will deny Miyako shower sex every time I lose a 50/50 to her if they go through with it.
but mr. rajeesh mctechsupport told me a few months ago that mihoyo's pity system is better generous than sparks?
this is why Japan is remilitarizing rapidly
>>575347381I see only one body but two severed heads.
>>575347381>tags: pregnancy, infant, guro
I guess that's it guys, it was nice while it lasted
>>575347558I see...
>oh you got the girl before the 200? You lose your points, lmaooooAmazing update!
You can't aford 5 or 10 bucks?
>>575347305I'm screencapping this (and laughing at you when you're wrong)
>Bryce McDowell blogpostingReminder that Farfie diddled his niece.
>>575347558It's so fucking over
>>575347296Basically this.
>>575347463I look like this and say this
>>575347552I would fuck Miyako.
>>575347581>is better generous than sparksMr. Rajeesh huh?
>>575343871big tits done wrong
>>575347575if the hacker was to be believed, the pressure came from Nexon (the publisher) so owning and making a game through a private company wouldn't be enough.if you got to the level where you own a publisher you wouldn't be making the same post that you just did.
>>575347452>Shit the fuck up.saar...
How will they localize "Make Gehenna great again"?
>>575347581don't midori.jpg this one please>>575347695NIGGER
>>575347632just buy more packs!
>always save 200 rolls if I plan to roll on standard>always save 400 rolls for bluefesisnt the new system just objectively better if you arent an impulsefag?
>Barely an hour>Thread almost finishWe're so back.
I hate India and Israel so much it's unreal
>DrumpfkotoPlease laugh!!!
>>575347524
>>575347575Gabe-sama, please make a...uh...Dota 2 gacha?
>>575347147>Installed Genshin>The girl I liked went from waifubait to yuritroon bait and 99% of her fanart is yurishitSo tired
>>575347575duh??? and you guys say im retarded?? why dont you just listen. this game dying is a good thing. there is over a 100% chance you will get BA2 with all the same great characters. basically another AAA clone on UE5 or unity
I don't even understand the gacha change, can anyone explain?
>listening to ai calculations from mumbai university certificate holderslol
>Gehenna is inherently cursed>Get full blown Gehenna event + Gehenna volume>Game takes a turn for the worseLike pottery, we should kill Iroha to appease the gods so they revert this
man, just when we barely got out of that elephant spam..
>>>/sp/157139057>>>/sp/157139057>>>/sp/157139057
>>575347879>>575347879>>575347879
>>575347558AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>575347750How many times have you had to go to 400 to get 2 students? How many times have you had to go to 200 to get 2 students? Now realize that the second scenario is going to become less common.
>>575347632now that I think about it it's even worse than that. those points you just lost won't even get converted into keystones anymore
The gacha nerfs were just a distraction to cover up how we get basically no half anni rewards, and youre all falling for it
>>575347147>not even a hebepass
>>575347813>play genshin for the new loli>she gets shipped with the patch's villan who later becomes playable and they are literally inseparablechink gachas, not even once.
Honestly it just feels pointless discussing this here, if you can speak japanese or korean you should write something under their official posts, be it on xitter, instagram or youtube. Or rather send tickets, just let them know that you are not satisfied.I am also annoyed that the system is changing and I'd rather just keep the old one even if for practical reasons (everyone is already used to it). Other than that, there's only so much we can do when most of us live in the opposite side of the world.
>>575347750It's the opposite. It's better to spend few rolls over the longer time. Pulling a lot on the same banner will fuck you over because the spark reset after you pull the featured student.
>>575347839you get an increased rate at specifically 100 rolls (but you can still fail)if you pull before 200 you don't get the chance to sparkeleph income is fuckeddoing double or triple banners or banner-hopping is basically impossible unless you REALLY like gamblingthey're also selling ligma packs
>>575347305Yeah, BA is their golden goose. I'd assume so too.
>>575347750My anecdotal experience having tried Mihomo games when they came out is no.I saved and spent around hard pity there and it always felt horrible. It was enough cause to quit before they revealed themselves to be as big a pile of shit as they seem to be.BA I saved and spent around sparks and I've only had one pair of banners that have felt bad in the years I've been playing.
i wouldnt mind the jewry if only they lewd the cunnies more but we all know BA is slowly going safe horny with the cunnies
>>575347796I cachinnate most vociferously.
>>575346548>Is it 50/50 and if you pull another student the next SSr is the featured, or is 50%(75% past 101) rate up until 200?Wrong that's Hoyo's Gacha systemThe new system works likes thisYou have 3% chance of getting an SSR per roll as usualSo long as you don't get the banner character you will get a counter, you're free to get other SSR thoughIf in 99 rolls you don't get the featured banner, the 100th roll will be a 50/50 SSR of the featured banner or MiyakoIf you get the featured banner the counter resets to 0If you don't get the banner you keep your counter and it's a guarantee at the 200th roll
>>575347305alright, boss
>>575347518this is so, but when it's on the table we can't guarantee anything other than a large amount of stupidity somewhere in nexon
>>575347632>you got the girl before the 200?>now finish the spark goy, you don't want those precious points going to waste, right?
>>575346685You have your Canto 10 next month limbab, there is no need to punch us at our lowest.
>>575347935Imagine winning at gacha and still losing resources. Whoever thought this was a good idea is retarded.
>>575348083thanks
>>575347750It's still not because you don't get free 100 ligma from sparking at 200/400 if you got lucky anymore
>>575347750the new system is better ONLY if you are interested in just a single girl during an event and coincidentally her banner is a solo oneBasically, it kills the point of Fes.
>>575348017You get rebates the most rolls you spend.
>>575348254Forgive my napkin math but doesn't that literally work out better than the old one for the player?
>>575347965>TL note: shipped means they appear on the same screen together
>release horrible gacha change on Gehenna banner>make the improvements later on a Trinity banner to get the devs listened momentThis is all just Trinity propaganda. Don't fall for it.
>>575347962But that's just literally just not trueIf you had 1k people flip a 75% heads/25% tails weighted 1 time the most likely outcome would be 750 people getting heads 250 getting tailsBut if you had each person flip the coin 1000 times each the most likely outcome is that EVERYONE ends up at about 750/250It's the exact same thing with the new system, yes on the first banner there will be more "losers" than before but if the same people roll on many banners you will statistically end up with less "losers" than before among this populationThe entire catch is that john is banking on first-banner "losers" to spend more
>>575348481this is gonna suck especially for newfags. even as a steamfag (so over one year into the game) and a whale I'm not feeling good about this at all>but goy if you're a whale just buy the new elephs pakejiI would've done that even if (((they))) hadn't changed the system. I'm really not feeling good about whaling at all anymore. I've even been tempted to just chargeback this month's purchases and say goodbye to my account since the stream ended
>>575347317Then I apologise because we were talking about different scenarios.
>>575347750No. It's only good if you want one agent otherwise sooner or later this is going to happen to you>Pull 180 times and get the first student you want>Have to put in another 100 pulls minimum on the other student's banner because pity doesn't carry overIt gets worse with the more characters you want. Before I could've just put another 20 pulls into the second student's banner and use my spark if I didn't get them in those 20 pulls
>>575348424>next monthseptember 17th actually because the director is genuinely retarded and originally planned to release the canto voiceless until people told him to delay it
>>575348635You will get shit. Time-limited tickets you get are just another way to teach you to stop planning your pulls in big batches.
>>575348789The pull rate is the same. What benefits the player is additional 50% at 100 pull, but the real problem is that spark resets when you succeed and as a result cannot be carried over to the second student if you got lucky between 100 and 200.
>>575348789If you're planning in getting 1 copy of the student this is correctIn the new one if you want 1 student + Eleph or it's 2 student bannersYour average becomes 300 pulls, because you are being forced to play the 50/50 game twiceNow cumulatively what are the chances you win 2 50/50 chances?In the old one assuming you only get 1 SSR in 200 pulls you only need to win that gamble once since the second is guaranteed
>>575349067Ok but since you'll be getting your student within 100 rolls more than 50% of the time you won't have to go up to 180 anywhere near as muchBut who am I kidding, your brain is incapable of understanding probabilities so you can only reason through specific concrete expamples rather seeing the big picture
why would they do this to us
>>575349868because you didn't spend on yuri whores in stella sora
>>575350014lies, i maxed out willow a couple days ago
>>575348254Does the pity counter stays between banners or not?
>>575350932Yes, it resets once you pull the banner student, which should be at 200.
>>575351459Another thing, if don't get Satsuki or Makoto during the 100 freebies, I get the 100 pity counter for Ibuki and Iroha?
>>575351624Counter doesn't carry over to future banners
coom in doomrope in hope
>>575351769Yes it does retard.
I love booba
