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first for farfie
HUH?
>give rewards for going after duplicates>increase ligma gain>give some amount of keystones when doing gachaNot hard to do. I'd forgib
>>575347879I want to smell aoba's vagina
How will you feel when you lose your first 50/50?
Farfie kill youself.
Nice
>>575347879>Get EA guy>Immediately sell out to sports shit Oh no no no
Post your EoS face
Chances for EOS growing as nexon takes the wheel.
>>575348041BASED
>>575347805I love Dota 2. But the game.The characters and writing churn my stomach they're so fucking bad. Worse yet, they abandoned old style updates in favor of fucking lore dumps.An honest to god Dota gacha would be the most baffling game on the planetalso if a company forked Dota 2, any version, but remade it with anime girls I would be the first to sign up for the beta
enjoy it while it lasts, globalbros. you have 4 more months of freedom
I just want to say again that the pyrox planner picked a good moment to quit doing his thing.
slow down
Is this worse to what Sony, Valve, Microsoft and others in the videogayme industry have been doing?
>even reddit, rice and farfie hate the new system
What happens if the NEW GACHA is imported early to Global?With the Fox Patch?
>>575348151fagfie loves it though
>Wake up >See this:What to do?
My Insidious In-Law
Now that everyone is too distracted to call me a faggot this girl has the same hairstyle has the cute boy from Fire Emblem EngageHe was so trash not gonna lie, worst unit by far but I still put it on my team just because he was hot
>Ibuki swimsuit>game is kill
who won?who lost?
>>575347813Mihoyo is gay as fuck, they only do galge shit to extract money from lonely men in order to fund more gay shit
>>575348103Oh no, I have to spend less pyro on each banner. The horror.
>get less elephs in the new system>conveniently there are now eleph pakejiOh wow thank you Nexon, so generous!
>>575348151>change so bad we're having our avengers momentK I N O
>>575348103>JK Asuna will be the last stu' I get to roll for with the old systemman...
How's Endfield?
>>575348164I wish.t. 120+ IQ.
>>575347879Changing a 6 year old established system to something that ISN'T better (in BA's case would be just adding a pulls carry forward rule) will always be gambling with EoSJust leave it the fuck alone it's not that hard you fucking Jews
>>575348164it probably won't, but if it does idk, a lot of players are probably gonna quit and whatever happens happens I guess
>>575348259IIRC they had a year where they only released malesthey had to backpedal so hard after that because they were bleeding cash from that act.
>>575348276>Nexon changed the gacha to bring in less moneyok retard
>>575348298WOAH WOAH IT COMES WITH A FREE GIFT THOUGH!
>>575348030Probably no worse than when I get to 200 without the student I want, but I always budget 200 rolls per student.
>>575348151>>575348206i love it if it will kill ba. i dont hate ba, i love it. i just dont like vn simulators. i want a new fancy ass AAA BA game with all the same characters and more features and abilities to interact with them etc etc., and i have no idea why anyone else wouldnt want that as well. maybe people on toasters, or misinformed people that actually think ue5 is a bad engine, etc
>>575348298I will buy these
Sex.With Ibuki.
>>575348298>guaranteed 3* every 100 rolls is somehow less eligma
>>575348151
>>575348372It's worse for whales and elephs dumbass. Can you think?
>>575347813It sucks to only play Genshin for one character since she won't be relevant after her patch ends. Just drop it.
If you have even a single braincell in your body, you know that the new system is worse than the old one, because a gacha company would NEVER change a system to benefit players. They aren't so "nice" that they will make a change to the system that will lead to you needing fewer pulls.
>>575348225>sees a girl>immediately thinks about some crossdressing shitkys faggot
>>575348212Wake up again, I'm not Rio.
>>575348030how will you feel when you lose your tenth 50/50?in a row?because that's what you need to prepare forthere is precisely 0 chance it will be an actual 50% chance with no rate manipulation
C109 numbers are gonna be grim
>>575348276>56% chance of getting both banners in 200 vs 75% beforeJamal-sensei...
/bag/ ain't slowing down
Why didn't you listen?
soon
I will still support them.I am of course referring to Satsuki's funbags.
>>575348298Lmao, they treat their pay piggies like cattle.
C-can we talk about the new Gehenna volume?
tbqh with you family, i haven't logged on since the middle of clanker fes (yes i skippered half of its rewards). the news didn't impact whatever remains of my interest that muchas usual the best place to play a gacha is via rhythm gaem collabs :^)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXAXUXDKd-I
>>575347813Which girl?
You're awake?Go write up an apology letter.
>>575348439I love my wife Cassie
>>575348298shameless
>>575348408I'll honestly be tempted too. Seems like some of the best value outside of selector tickets.
>>575348576NO
>>575348117Yuzutrends took his job months ago already
>>575348469that's what i've been saying, these retards are so gullible
>>575348406Go away with you inane bullshit you ugly friendless loser. Exercise while you're at it and maybe your face will become less grotesque.
Chances of Suou in the Gehenna volume?Schemata, remember?
>get former EA exec to squeeze out more money>immediately shits up the game
>>575348559She's the only thing that keeps me sane throughout this fucking meltdown.Thank you Satsuki.
Hot take but all they had to do to make the new gacha system work was make it a 75/25 at 100 instead of 50/50In the gacha space, a 50/50 might as well be considered a 0% chance with how most players perceive it, putting the odds in the players' favor instantly fixes this AND encourages more reckless pulling as players just assume they'll win every time
>>575348701More
You piggies got fed for 5.5 years.Now it's off to the sausage factory to squeeze as much money out of you as possibleOink oink
>>575348406it's a bad engine in the hands of a developer who has no idea what they're doing which is all of them at this point
>>575348406not any of those anons but my only fear left for BA now is it becoming like Touhou or Uma, as long as such a game won't attract those rats, I would gladly accept it.
>hinawank volume>introduce the worst change in the gameIts always the fucking gehenners
>S.Ibuki's L2D is focusing on her delicious flat chestToT
>EA ceoAh, now I see why they started to pander to normies and ironic weebs so hard this year with vtumor shit and twitch shills.
>>575348749The new system is objectively better for me because I'm not a retarded impulse roller
Gacha games only change their gacha systems to be more generous so I dont understand why everyone is mad. Is it like when people misunderstood the eleph change that actually make the game even more generous?
>>575348729That just makes losing it feel even worse
>>575348408I bought the recent 100 eleph packages that came with a 10 pull even though I had no banner I cared about sparking with them.I can't imagine they're worse value than that.Especially since mine went on Chiaki and Iroha
>>575348325Awful. We're all waiting for Silver Palace now.
>>575348729>a 50/50 might as well be considered a 0% Because it is, if the universe liked me I would be white.
>>575348697>Dive grass and EA are behind this
>>575348298>120 elephsthese are honestly good deals if you spend money even before this retarded gacha update.priced the same as a 10 roll but you are guaranteed a dupe-deal.
>>57534867250/50 at 100 chapters.
This sucksI just realized I didn't even log in today
>lost my job>now this2026 is just a fucked up year for me. I'm going to sleep, tomorrow will not be better. Maybe it's time to learn about rope knot
Nexon? More like neck yourself, son, for introducing these changes.
Someone got a response from the devs, is it EOS time or would they consider revertign the changes.
>>575348813Refer to>>575348469
>>575348164Gooks will riot and bomb Nexon HQ
>>575348469>>575348667That's what I realized when I was taking a shower after the livestream. There's no reason to change something no one complained about unless you have ulterior motive
>>575348813People don't understand math Kotori. You must explain.
Checking Japanese twitter>https://x.com/Blue_ArchiveJP/status/2081354265256468538>over 2.5 million views>over 2000 posts>over 500k dislikes>japanese players are upset and complaining about the new gacha systemChecking BA official subreddit>https://old.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/comments/1v723zk/jp_recruitment_points_will_be_replaced_with/>https://old.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/comments/1v74y17/simple_explanation_of_why_the_new_pity_system_is/>all the Global players hate it>everyone is afraid of the new system coming early to GlobalChecking Gacha Gaming>https://old.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1v727bf/blue_archive_55th_anniversary_with_free_pulls_and/>Everyone is mocking BA for copying the Genshin gacha system >Everyone assumes this will kill BAChecking the Chinese forums>https://al1s.xyz/>everyone is calling for a boycott and to stop spending on Blue Archive (merch and pakeji)I haven't seen a single social media website where this new gacha system is seen as something positive
>>575348892@grok translate into hindi please
>>575348443You are far less likely now to get what you want within 200 pulls. Tell me how that only affects whales?
>>575347879What the fuck are those team names? Following amerimutt sportsball naming conventions is one thing, but "Fagiano"? "Zelvia"? "Grampus"? Are these football teams or characters from a bad FF spinoff?
>>575348813When the eleph came out people were dooming that it UE60 was greed and it would be required to whale everyone to UE60 to stay in plat or whatever. Don't listen to the retards.
Next anniversary will add a weapon gacha btw.
>>575348892>T/N: We aren't going to change it. Please stop inquiring about this. You are flooding our systems.
>>575348325on camera begging
>>575348701I am still very much looking forward to the coming days.
>>575348469Early BA 2%->3% and 300->200 spark post goes here.I don't have it on my hands>inb4 doesn't count
>>575348810If you are only a collector maybe. We always have double banners going all way up to five.
>>575348923green line is higher than blue line, green is new, blue is old
Yall deserve it for making fun of indians
90k exactly very coolJPfriends, explain your rolling plans for the first day. I want to farm Chiaki bigly but there are obviously big changes which affect free 100.
>>575348941Shut up hater, here on /bag/ we love the new system
>>575347991everyone knows that, just let me shitpost bwo
>>575348882Don't do it!It's just a game and you will find a new job, and a boyfriend!
Nexon executive here. We here at Nexon would like to sincerely thank our paid marketing advertisers for supporting the new student exchange system throughout various image forums. With your continual support, the company would like to thank your endeavors by rewarding our paid marketing members an extra 450 IDR per support posts on various image forums!
>>575348941>Everyone is mocking BA for copying the Genshin gacha systemBut saar, Sukdeep came here earlier to assure me Genshin had the most humane pull system in gacha history
>>575348729given that the launch is just around the corner they can really only do two things to salvage it>change the breakpoints from 100/200 to something like 80/160or>change the pull price to 100 pyroarbitrary numbers but you get the idea maybe increase the base 3* rate but anything meaningful would probably be too generous for them so I doubt it
>>575349026>best looking graphics in the business>censored shipslopI mean I know it's AK but still
>>575348729They could have done lots of things.They chose a poor option.Hopefully the complaints from Asia make them turn a dial on it.I think someone said there was some compensation like a 10pull back if you went to spark, even just slapping more shit on that would probably be enough to mitigate the badfeels if you had to go to 200ish pulls.
>>575349034Preventing EoS is for the benefit of the company too. BA wouldn't have survived the first year with 300 when priconne lowered it to 200.
>>575348985I'm more likely to get 4 banners in 400 pulls with the new system.
>>575349034That's because the game was literally dying at that time and they HAD to change it, otherwise they would stop making money. Not the case right now, they're in the squeezing phase.
>>575349103You roll 200 on the first day and build your pity for fes with the free rolls! Yes, this is so much better than what we had
>>575348892>今回の一部システムの変更につきましては、開発会社との間で長期にわたり意見交換を重ねた結果、実装に至ったものとなります。>The changes to some of the systems discussed this time are the result of extensive discussions and exchanges of ideas with the development company over a long period of time.it's over...
>>575348608Torendo juu nana.
>>575348941>I haven't seen a single social media website where this new gacha system is seen as something positiveunironically here. but i'm going to assume it's trolls and smoothbrains
The fact that they announced this gacha change 2.5 days before the upcomimg patch means theres 0 chance they'll be able to change anything about it before the next banner, one way or another we're gonna be able to experience this gacha system ourselves (and hopefully it'll get backtracked by the time Ibuki banner drops)
>>575349103What's the point in censoring your credits
>>575348764well sure. but thats true for any new thing, ofc people wont be as good at using it for a duration
Okay but why the fuck would they announce this in the Fes stream?Fes news is a free win, it's a bunch of positive community engagement and visibility. Now all discussion is going to be dominated by the gacha changes.The controversy was going to happen regardless but tacking it all onto Fes trashes a bunch of the benefit that from their big biannual event. It's retarded and unnecessary.
>>575349067>agentCouldn't let the mask slip
>>575348985If you only had 200 pulls and never ever had more than 200 pulls then yeah. You get 200 pulls in 2 months. It will average out to be less pulls over time. 200 pulls is a single pulling session.
no 2 characters skills?
>>575348813did you see anyone complain when they lowered the spark from 300 to 200?If its an actual improvement it doesn't need to be defended or explained, is better. If you have to explain why is better, that means is not better but a sidegrade at most.
>>575348941But Nexon will never do wrong?!?!? The average checks out, so what the heck are these people complaining. Just shut up and consoom.
>>575348882
>>575348801I'm sending that image to GSC so they cut Himari's veggie bux.
>>575349034Keyword:>EarlyIt unironically doesn't count, because it's a completely different situation where they were trying to salvage players by making player-friendly changes. That isn't the case now, and no one was complaining about the gacha system before today.
>>575349208>>575349210>gacha company would NEVER change a system to benefit playersSo doesn't count?
>>575348892>Nah, lmaoKek
>>575348813it's not being more generous.>56% chance of getting two banner students in a spark vs 75% before>less elephs per spark (but don't worry goy, we're selling elephs for real money now!)>only want one student? got her before pity? hey, remember those keystone pieces you used to get when this happened before? yeah those are gone too lulnah, fuck this shit, this is inferior in every single fucking way
>>575348892>Re: Opinions / Requests>Thank you very much for contacting us.>We sincerely appreciate you sharing your valuable opinions with us at this time.>Regarding the recent partial system changes, they were implemented as a result of extensive and long-term exchanges of opinions with the development company.>However, our top priority remains to stay close to and support our customers' experiences.>We will take the feedback you have provided this time very seriously and will pass it along to the development company once again.>If you have any other comments or notice anything else, we would appreciate it if you could contact us.>We look forward to your continued support.>"Blue Archive" Management OfficeNothing ever happens.
>>575349235I already know that spending 24k instead of 12k is worse you don't need to convince me about that part.
>>575349026That's embarrassing, geez.
>give iboogee braids>she's mega sex now
>>575349142Thank you Nexon. Thank you for taking care of us over the years. You deserve our hard earned money. Nay, we OWE you money.P.S. Please make more packages.
>>575349313This wasn't benefitting players no, it was benefitting themselves, because if the game died they would lose all income.
The cookie has begun to crumble
>>575349279unironically to sabotage Gehenna volume and Pandemonium festraitors are still in the company
>>575349281>It will average out to be less pulls over time.You don't roll enough for it to reliably average out. You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>575349089huh so the new system is only worse at 200-299, but math is for rational nerds. Gacha players are emotional and we want the good ol ways.
>>575349103>roll both of them until I got one copy (expected to spark)>maybe buy the eleph packs >let the free rolls hit pity and don't finish the spark even if I lose the 50/50that's it.
>>575348469>a gacha company would NEVER change a system to benefit playersBA has changed the gacha system 3 times since launch only to benefit the player, 4 now.A gacha game would never change a system to fuck the player over, thats just publicly stating you want to kill the game. Like trying to directly nerf a character
>>575348941The only people defending the new system are Genshin or ZZZ fags who don't play any other gacha than those 2
>>575349274Kill yourself Bryce.
>>575348469Retard, we got pity from 300 to 200, 2.5% to 3%, and archival banner.This new system is shit, but not because of that.>>575348729The change they need is to not reset the pity point when getting featured banner, anything else and it's ass.
Thank you Gehenna
>>575349374Ibuki is nowhere near as popular as kotone
>>575348892nice, I won't buy pakeji then
>>575349428Rolling 400 times over 2 sets of banners is enough for the new system to have a higher success rate.
>>575349103That 90k looks photoshopped. Buy AP 3 times to prove it's not shopped.
>>575348941Surely this overwhelming backlash, which was definitely expected due to a lack of a live audience, will make them roll back the decision? Right, guys?
>>575349280told ya it was the other generals starting shit.
>>575348325>>575349026The best way to "play" this game is downloading the official MMD models and doing whatever you want with them lol
>Do nothing>Wins
>>575349089if you think this is better you are a monkey and should let other people think for you insteadyou could also raise the gacha rates a tiny bit while removing pity entirely and the green line would be higher LMAO
You will get the hoyotreatment and you will like it
>>575348941>Didn't bother to check the "vague site"Gee i wonder why?
>>575349294this pretty much. if they have to hide it behind a convoluted system, they just want to make it harder for you to notice that it's worse than before. they want to make you think it's better by baiting you (in that case with a 50/50 chance mid-pity) when in reality it's just gonna be miserableliteral jew tricks
>>575349386>didn't change pyro or pakeji prices>but reduced spark and increased droprates>somehow doesn't benefit players
>>575349374>mega sexthey gave her a safe horny swimsuit so no
>>575348801nothing i can do for you there, nor can anyone else. the better the game is, the more likely itll attract any given person, regardless of origin. but does that mean you purposely make the game worse?
>Guarantee at 200 like normal>50/50 at 100, if hit the pick-up, reset the counter>But the counter only reset at roll 100>Any hit that occur naturally will not reset the counter>If you pull the pick-up at 190, then you have another chance of 50/50 at 200None dare to do this
I had a dream where I was having sex with a girl with big fat tits and I went soft right after the foreplay and she laughed at me
Can't wait to lose my first 50/50 to Koyuki
>>575349428The playerbase as a whole will roll enough to matter. A single person can get unlucky and the distribution is wider now. As a whole the playerbase will get students earlier. Absolute retard.
>>575349430it makes averages better and punishes impulsefags, its a great new system if you actually use the pyroxene pull planner
>>575349279they thought it would soften the blow but they fucked up by having the actual fes content be so lukewarm and predictablelike imagine if we got microbikini Ibuki, no matter if you convinced yourself that her new swimsuit is "more chidlike"(despite no actual children wearing anything like it, go to a beach irl sometime), it would at least take the attention away from this disaster
>>575348030How will you fee when you win at 190 pullt?
>>575349330>>We will take the feedback you have provided this time very seriously and will pass it along to the development company once again.
>>575349178the graphics and world design are really nice, too bad the combat, story and main character are dogshitthe story has been 6 months of nothing but vague posting and Stranger Things style hand posing
>>575348892>from the devsno, it's from someone managing the support deskMeaningless basically.
The archive recruitment change was also a scam btw, new players get enough pulls for a single character from that banner and that's it, after a year we got like 50 more max.
The service has begun to end
>>575348813It's psychology vs mathematics. The expected value you get for rolling is slightly improved but people tend to account for the worst, especially in the face of change. Doesn't help that many were comfortable with the old system, and the possibility that they might end up worse freaks people out. Especially if they had a bad experience with other gachas with a similar system (keep in mind the new system doesn't increase your rate-up chance as you get closer to the coin flip/pity like other gachas).It's a shit change either way whether it improves the average or not, just because it rocked the boat and forced people to reexamine their investment in your game.
>>575349648>How will you fee when you win at 190 pullt?glad that I saved 10 rolls :^)
>>575349406nameless nigga...
>>575349279Board members who have no clue how their customer think. The last five threads there hasn't been a SINGLE post related to the gameplay of the new Pandemonium characters. None. Zip. Niente.
My canon wife Fuuka...
There are senseis who will lose their first 50/50 to Kurumi. How does this make you feel?
All they needed, was to show Ibuki's navel.
>Mika VA voices a precure>she is a menhera
>>575349638it was lukewarm but the PV was close to saving it since it did made everyone looks much better in motion.that said nothing in the world can prepare for what's about to come next.
Surely with the new gacha changes, they will reduce the number of double banners right? RIGHT???????!?!?!?!??!
>>575349596Just don't go softWhat are you, some kind of old man?
Finally, I can quit this gameNo one ever thinks pity systems are superior to sparkd
>>575348406>UE5 is good akshually they just don't know how to use it!is the>PS3 is the more powerful console they just aren't using the full potential!for the modern gayming
>>575349668it means they don't give a fuck
>>575348941you'd think it might actually change their minds, but I'm without hope
>>575349718cute, but under the new gacha system there's no point rolling standards
How is maf even real
>>575348469the reason they add layers in a system is to fool people into thinking that it's betterIf they really wanted to make the gacha objectively better they wouldn't have added these plusses and minuses in the system.This was my gripe with fes archive, if it really purely good for newbabs they wouldn't have separated the recruitment points. Hell, they could've just made it a permanent addition to normal fes banners
>>575349796Post you deleting your account.
>>575348151what's mr.cpu-sensei opinion on the matter though
>>575349668explains why they're trying to push all the blame onto the dev company(nexon) then, the customer support desk probably doesn't know any details with the gacha changes.
>>575348225I really can't feel the appeal of menhera clothes
>>575349756I dropped it because it was too boring detectives were a mistake.
>>575349089good goy
>>575348941The average pleb retard is bad at math, what else is new.
I don't care about math, systems where I can lose a 50/50 are garbage. That's it.
>>575349695I have 390 total F2P but keep spouting bullshit
>>575349742jealous, I want Kurumi right now
>>575349756blasphemy, she has her own reasons
>>575349839Every man deep inside years for a girl with mental illness
>>575348813Most nipponese salaryman players don't understand probability and the mathematically illiterate /bag/got look up to jp as if they're long lost father figure. So yeah
>>575349517we still don't even know if this is a gacha or how the monetization works though. There is literally only 9 characters.So the "gacha" format doesn't seem certain. Could be a 30 bucks game instead of a gacha as far as we know
>>575349756Touyama has like a million characters, newfag
>>575349546Ibuki would never dress the same as a slut like Kokona
>>575349756I'm an autist who insists on watching the old series first, I'm currently partway through Splash Star
>>575348030I'm gonna be frank: After wasting 150 rolls for Rena with no spooks, and a full spark for A.Eimi, also with no spook, this system is neither better or worse for me.
>>575349264Because his credits is only worth 1 maxed student lol.
>just bet on red all the time, you will eventually win
>>575348325This game was complete dogshit despite all the shilling
What is so Hard to add the 50/50 at 100 pulls will keeping the spark at 200 NEXON
>>575349621>The playerbase as a wholeRight, because that's what people care about: the roll distribution of the playerbase as whole, not their own personal rolls. I bet you also think that having a system where you spend 120k pyro for a 99% chance to get the student you want is good, because of the distribution, right?
>>575349546>they gave her a safe horny swimsuitnigga what part of this shit is "horny"? it just looks like she put on a pink trash bag to hide her perfect child body. a safe-horny swimsuit would've been a sukumizu or something erotic like that, not that garbage
>>575349938Probability can suck my ass. If people acted based on probability, lottery would not exist.
>>575349806the one at the support dev gives some kind of fuck, and likely wasn't lying that he or she will send the feedback to the devsThis is ALL the person can do, however.>>575349837Oh they surely know and were surely warned they'd get a lot of messages about it.
>>575349949it's a gacha, those weird deformed chibi midget characters are the filler
>>575349430People mostly seem mad that they don't have a 75% chance of knowing for certain they will get two students within 200 rolls. Now you can only be absolutely certain of getting two students in 400 rolls. For people that plan around the worst case of double sparking, nothing much changes.
>>575349853Well it is a 50 episode toy commercial for japanese toddlers. Not exactly something for the faint hearted
>>575349949they literally teased a weapon gacha you fucking dolt
>>575348941mumbai universities seem positive about it
this is exactly what they do in genshin btw
I want Babu Mika
Enough doom, post Iroha's EX animation.
>>575350085good, we love genshit now, apparently
>>575349706its a pity system, if you always got decent luck in a gacha you wouldn't even need a system like this to begin with.it's a straight downgrade because the mechanic is inferior at its purpose for being. you are falling for the trick if you think otherwise.
>NumbersLook guys, I don't really care if the rates are going to be a little bit higher. I don't like coinflips and that's all there is to it. I have happily played gachas with zero pity or spark, where you rolled what you could on the girl that you liked and if she didn't come home, then tough fucking shit.And that did not feel as bad as 50/50s.
>>575350031Greed. Per usual with Nexon really.
>>575348749I'm just going to stop spending moneyI have all my fes girls now anyways
>/bag/ slowdead general
>>575349997why are you being frank instead of yourself?
>>575350067I will have you know I watched a lot of 50 episode toy commercials and their movies.
>>575350085>GenshinIt's the hidden potential from Dokkan.
EOS soon? Just in time for Azur Promilia to take over
>>575349834Here faggot
>>575349949But it is, you can see pull animations in the trailer.>Only 9 charactersBecause it will be a 0.% gacha, it's 3D, they won't have 100 characters like BA lol
>>575350034200 rolls is still the limit. Everyone is gonna hit that limit sometimes. Some will hit it more than others. The new system LITERALLY makes peoples less likely to double spark. You keep saying shit that you have no idea about.
>>575350239>fmc
>nothing personal sensei
>>575350187Ok I prefer to be rational than emotional but you do you.
how does this affect spooksexplain this system to a retard
This change vindicated revenue shitposting. People keep telling themselves the game is fine, apparently not at all.
Since we're basically Genshin now, when are we getting our official ingame yuribait ?
>>575350085Isn't this just a more complicated Limit Break? And that thing was a nothing burger.
>>575350085I hecking love rng stat farming
>>575350085That's a good thing. Here at /bag/, we LOVE Genshin Impact.
>>575349949They showed the weapon gacha and everything, bro. What kind of cope is this?>>575350063The game deserves to EOS. They stuck Analyst in the unplaybale support NPC purgatory. All of the staff are better than the playables.
>>575348941>but my math>look at the average>you're just an emotional gambling addict>the worst case scenario is unlikely so ignore it, nevermind that the whole reason spark exists is to curb the worst case scenarioI just assume they're trolls
>>575350263The new system also literally makes people go above 200.
>>575350242Retard
>>575350085It says enhance stats not unlock talents.
>>575350242time traveller bro...
>>575350242try harder jeet
>>575350371And go below 400 in double banners.
>>575350085Do I need to collect dumb flowers too?
>>575350209we had been the fastest place on this site for the past 6 hours.>>575350235hidden potential mats are free as long as you care to do the z-battles the new quests/raids that offers mats for this new system are probably timegated.
>>575350085I don't remember that in Genshin, sorry.
>>575350363You are a fucking retard the new gacha changes lowers the chance of the worst case scenario.
>>575350242Why did you quit over Eri?
>>575350239>By the azur shit devs>Femc>Genshin pal world slop That game is unironically DOA.
>>575349326but the math from chatgpt said its better.
How long until the threads are usable?
>>575348941godspeed, fellow coomplainers>>575349254>but i'm going to assume it's trolls and smoothbrainswe're getting raided after every important stream, this shouldn't be surprising
>>575349089>source: i drew some lines on some graph paper
>>575349546Ibuki is meant to be cuteKokona is meant to be sex
>>575350028I got a fun, free 50 hours out of it
>>575350509see? This retard doesn't even understand his own math
>>575350554they are now, rajesh stop shilling the changes
>>575350242Eribros...
>>575350464So better for lucklets who have to go to 400But worse for standard luck who got it around 150-220
>>575350362I don't often say this but these legit look AI generated
>>575350554until nexon stops being retarded
>>575350554Definitely not today and probably not tomorrow
>>575350554it will calm down a bit until JP actually releases it.
>>575350615No it's better for the average case too.
>>575350554>aaaaahhhhh stop complaining
>>575350554Probably till the new banners are up on JP, that will also be the day /bag/ halts to a crawl since everyone will rope after they lose their first 50/50
>>575350554Probably until Nexon reverse there decision and every retard goes "dEvs LIsTnEd"
>>575350085Honestly the worst thing about this system, just from the looks is that the mats you get from the new mode isn't that related to schooling. You use textbooks to limit break your students and BDs, and notes to upgrade their skills. With this you use like seeds and keys?What?
>>575350509Your the retard for pretending the new gacha is good, there's a reason everyone not on this shithole hates it and are shitting on nexon. Your some mentally ill contrarian retard trying to justify eating literal shit. And despite what you might think, the fucking pandemonium fes itself shows why this new system is trash because anyone who likes pandemonium is gonna want to roll them all, something they can't do now because the new gacha fucks them if they want all 4 of the girls.
>>575350296It doesn't. You can get as many spooks as you want, only rate up resets your pity.
>>575350085>deep projectionI'd project myself deep into her if you know what I mean
>>575350293If you preferred being rational, you wouldn't play gacha games at all. Isn't it highly irrational to gamble currency on jpegs of cute girls when you can just look at the art online?
>>575350686That's not what the graph says.
>One day of not masturbating aggressively to Rio>Ibuki Summer releasedNo... No... NO I just recovered>Absolutely erotic shots in PVAhhhh I am going to die from being dried up
>>575350535DOA is a fighting game
So is sensei arab or what? Why'd he use it?
>>575350464>>575350263Nobody ever rolled 400 on a random double banner. It was always single spark and hope to get the second student for free. You're transparent shill that ignores how students are released in this game.
>>575350085On one hand, this had the potential conceptually of fixing further older unitsOn the other, it says it's stats only.
>>575350721Did they fucking steal this from the Harry Potter Blue Archive clone or what? So strange.
It's good because nexon said it's good okay!?!?!?!???
I know we're all busy shitting on the gacha system but can I just interject to complain about the Seia ASMR? Might be the laziest one they've done yet. Its only in episode 4 that we get something resembling ASMR with the ear cleaning. Do these guys think soft speaking = ASMR? There's barely any foley. On the bright side the audio quality is better, sibilance isn't as harsh now but damn, this is kinda lazy overall.
>>575350812This reads like a JP Tiwtter post.
W-woah!!
>>575350721>isn't that related to schoolingooparts aren't related to schooling either retard
>>575350746Just be lucky bro.
>>575350615If you only ever roll once. If you ever acquire more than 24k pyro then it benefits you. Unless you're a whale hunting elephs or affectionfag hunting gifts.
>>575350535Stella Sora loves their femc
>>575350085And so it begins Blue Archive enshittification
>>575350850Yes, it's just going to widen the gap between new and old even more. I'm betting on this.
>>575350305Expect girls with katanas coming soon
>>575350921Who?
>>575348892This isn't a response. It's the most generic "We have received your opinions and they have been noted" automated template response that you'll get from any company.
>>575350616doesn't help that if you look at the bodies they're literally cut and pasteall the designs in it look like AI slop so far
>>575350687Nice BA image.
You guy really don't know how much worse praying for a fucking coin flip feels compared to just chasing a rate up
>>575350836>Nobody ever rolled 400 on a random double bannerI did 400 rolls on the maid banners recently. I got fucked over but still think the old system is a million times better
>>575350721what? you dont like another raid chore to add to your list of existing raid chores? we need another shitty FR clone
>>575350867not all ASMR are ear cleaning/licking, speaking closely to your ears has been around for longer before the ear cleaning shit bubI also fast forward the ear cleaning/licking segments when listening to erotic ASMRs
>>575350885Yeah, but Ooparts are kind of a key part to the fucking setting.Your tablet is a fucking Oopart and the new story is set around the mystery around another Oopart.
How well would SRT fare against Abydos or the Prefect Team?
>>575350883Zamn 11 years old look like that? *GUH*
>>575350828Don't lie to me, it's a gacha game
>>575350907If the chance is lower for one double-banner, then it's gonna be lower every time.
>>575351081Guh...Iroha stop
>>575350721You make a good point, it doesn't feel like this belongs in BA
I will take no less than the Nexon reverting the changes and Arona and Plana doing naked dogeza
>>575350883Actual sex. Ibuki disappointed me
>>575350790Look at >>575346674 retard. The 0.5 line (average luck) is at around 170 for the new system and 200 for the old system.
>>575350085>genshin makes lots of money>BA copies genshin>BA makes lots of moneyand the problem is?
ASTRAE WON!!!Now they only need to announce the pity system to get all the migrating senseis
>>575351057if they wanted to they can make up some new bullshit lore about those keys unlocking their mysterious potential doors to their heart or some such, it's not that hard.
>>575351027>they're literally cut and pastedidn't (((he))) do the same shit with band ASS too? I remember seeing a pic about that a while ago
>>575350986Tbf, it's not like they can say anything else regardless of if they'll listen. Imagine if they wrote the truth? "Fuck off goyim, we're trying to make money here."
>>575350464no one is rolling 400+ on a double banner, what is this nigger on
Why... why won't Nexon let Ibuki wear the bikini?!
>>575351081GUHChiaki gets me so hard
>>575350883>mogs S. IbukiSex won
>>575350867I cannot complain I dunno moon speaking, if only there was a translation of all ASMR, hell the DramaCDs too (from the Bond Songs)
Complain on the survey you dumbfucks.
>>575351107If you are deadset on spending 200 rolls only. The 50/50 will makes it be lower over time.
>>575351169>BA making moneyLmaooooo
>>575350721>>575350085>New mode for new drops>That means new menu>That means another GSC student in itKAYABROS????????
>>575351235what fucking survey you absolute ape
>>575351165I do see the huge drop once it hits 200
>>575350968Maybe this Genshification of our game isn't such a bad thing...
>Jobshino helps Hina on the Gehina volumeYes or no?
>>575349089DEATH PENALTY!
>>575351253>"what you mean not raw?"
SHUT UP YOU RETARDED FAGGOTS
I feel like they just need to not make your points disappear if you get the rate up? thats a straight up improvement no?
I don't care about averages. I only care about my own experience. 5 years of playing and I always get a rate-up at around 150-190. It always feels good to finish the spark and get the other student. Nexon is specifically changing the gacha to fuck ME over.
>>575351220Because she is not an adult unlike Sex.
>>575351270She's in jail...
>>575351235but I already filled it last month...
>>575351065>AbydosMiyu takes out Ayane with a headshot causing FTF to collapse to infighting>PrefectsMiyu takes out Hina with a headshot, Ako and Chinatsu rush Hina to the hospital forgetting Iori was even there
>>575351302>Hina jobs to Hoshino in gehenna volumeI will now read your story
>>575351165>old system is way better at the 200 mark (which is what matters for most players)I assure you that if you're defending the new systems those graphs are not helping your cause at all
>>575351387But you will get most students in 100 rolls now! Trust the averages!!!
Told you guys, Nexon is shit. Now come to my game (don't look at my publisher)
>>575351387I usually only want one student on double banners so I forced Mr. Nexon to change the system specifically for me.
What is it with KR devs shooting themselves in the foot this year ? We had BD2 censorship at the beginning of this year and now CZN yuribait and Nexon being turbo jews...
>>575351387Hey nigga, I feel the same, so they're at least fucking TWO people over.
I honest to god like their portraits more with the pirate accessories
>>575351218He's on "math". Pretending that people will not get fucked over in the scenario everybody was using to plan their pull.
>>575351425I feel like you're biased for Miyu
>ShimikomShimiko soon bros
Shush.
>>575351065Hoshino and Hina each would be able to solo SRT.
you vill spend 1600 rolls and you will rike it
can we get the chink/gook/nips to do what they did to lads to nexon so we can teach them a fucking lesson
>>575348072Interestingly the game has been way better than ever lately. Especially with the stories and events. We just got pretty much the best fes we’ve ever had. So somehow it’s definitely in better hands.
>>575351452You said average, not 200. 200 is below average luck. The average is around 170. That's basically saying I save 30 rolls every banner with the new system.
>>575351509didnt South Korea's stock market shit itself recently because the AI bubble is popping?
>>575351509>Nexon being turbo jewsTo be fair this is usually Nexon's natural state.
>>575351165All the graphs are showing that old system is better. Holy shit, how can anyone defend the new system?
>>575351425Won't work on Hina, she's got that iron dome.
>>575351370if they didn't separate points for permanent banners and limited banners, yeah
>>575351542Oh no
>>575351449>then proceeds to get BTFO by Hina Terror forma de Baal>Jobshino then goes Terror tooKINO
>>575351541What is this?
>>575350615are you retarded? the new system is only better if you win the 50/50, for those who lose it's downgrade and a huge one.
>>575351541eimisex
did they ever update archive recruitment on JP? I have 250 archive rolls but I own every archive student already...
>>575351054Don't speak to me about what constitutes ASMR. I've been in the ASMR community since its inception. Remember silent unboxings? Remember Soundsculptures? No? Then don't talk about shit like ear licking and erotic ASMR which would never have been considered ASMR until some foid had the bright idea to sexualize sleep/relaxation aid.
>>575351065>Prefect TeamHina solos them.>Abydos SRT would probably win. Abydos has Hoshino, but SRT has the better training and equipment overall.
>>575351534Well until they introduce a student with psychic abilities that allow to break through Miyu's invisibility there's not really a counter, is it?
>>575351586Can we just fucking kill someone like Chinks do?
>>575351387You'll have an additional 50% chance after 100 rolls instead of praying to 0.7% all the way to 200.
>>575351665Shonenbros are we back
>>575351621Number of rolls at 0.5 (average luck) in the second graph:New: 170Old: 200Expected rolls for both target students (LITERALLY SPELLED OUT FOR YOU):New: 180Old: 192.6Do you not understand how to read a graph?
I have started to see some people defending the gacha change using averages, but am I crazy to say I dont give a shit about having slighly better chances if I get lucky???I care about my bad luck being cushioned, if I fail the 50/50 and get the banner character anywhere from 101 to 199 pulls I just lost the posibility to get a second character for the price of one pity, suddenly I am stolen something that has been in game from day one and I have to do extra 100 pulls, and if I fail again another 100?
>>575351667dangles
>>575350298I mean it looks good to me doesnt it?
I was looking forward to the stream and this is what I got?>>575351621it's just a bunch of tourist retards, you can tell by the "keywords" they're using
This new system is especially bad for this fes, who the fuck likes makoto or ibuki or satsuki and doesn't like all of pandemonium? If you wanted pandemonium fes you absolutely want to roll for all of them, and no sparks fucks you hard. I'm lucky when it comes to gacha pulls but even I'm not retarded enough to pretend the dogshit mihoyo gacha system isn't utter trash, there's a reason mihoyo games are the only gacha I have bad luck in, fucking fgo gave me more 5stars than mihoyo trash did.
>>575351686No. But now we wait for summer banner release. If new system goes through, and it updates for archive banner, then it's worth waiting for it. If they backpedal then probably roll.
>>575351509GLOBALIZATION
>>575351596I didn't say anything, I'm not the guy you were replying to. and that graph is about getting 2 students per banner, not one, if you can read. 56% chance now vs 75% before. think about it for a second and look at all those students you won't get because your odds of getting them got cut by almost a third relative to where they previously where
It's a total riot on x rn. And I think they wont revert this time.
>>575351785The new system is way better if you are unlucky.If you have only 400 rolls and want all 4 swimsuit Pandemonium students, the new system has a higher chance of success than the old system.
>>575351760Make a graph where you have a 50/50 at 100 and the PU chance is 2%, but completely remove pity.You'll see that it's sky high, yet no one would play a game without pity in the current year.
>muh averagesI don't fucking care about this shit, no one is gonna notice that you spend like 10 rolls less per banner but EVERYONE will notice if they get fucked over at 190 rolls even once. Humans are not logical in that way, especially that negative outcomes affect us more than the positive ones
>>575351785Pretty much, yeah. The psychological hit is hard. It's a psychological trick now
>>575351823where the fuck are they coming from? even xitters and redditors hate this new system
>>575350050>it just looks like she put on a pink trash bagGod damn it, you're right. We got fucked.Just look at this shit in comparison. Look at what we could have had. >>575350883
>>575351596200 is the most common scenario. That's what Nexon wants to kill and teach playerbase to pull often in smalelr batches. They know people will stop tracking their pyrox that way and will spend more overall. You pretending to not understand is pathetic.
>>575351703I think Big Shiroko would fuck them over. Also I'm including Fox and Rabbit working together.
Nexon is too big to fail
>>575351719yeah kill kim>inb4 which kimall of the kims at nexon
The new gacha change is our 9/11.
>Who was your BA waifu/husbando>What gacha are you moving in now
>>575351950>muh.... muhhhhhh............ MUH FEE FEEEEEEEEEEEES!what are you, a woman?
>>575351785Wait... Is that the opinion that EVERYONE including gooks and nips are having?WE DON'T DO THAT AROUND HERE
>>575351969>200 is the most common scenarioretard
>>575351694I had been a JPonly ASMR enthusiast for more than a decade albeit.
>>575351930>If you have only 400 rolls and want all 4 swimsuit Pandemonium students, the new system has a higher chance of success than the old system.This is never the fucking case you retard.
Old thing gooooodNew thing baaaad
The worst thing, the absolutely worse fucking thing about this gacha change, is that if a lot of players stop playing, that will absolutely kill the BA doujin community. Imagine Winter comiket where BA isn't the #1 IP. That's exactly what's going to happen.
>>575351596you VILL get less students per banner and you VILL be happy, goy
>>575348941Seiajeets love it here
>>575351986That faggots goes to comiket. If will lucky some nip will shank him.
>>575351987The BA killer is BA...truly the genshin of the cunny times...
>>575352036sure, shill, sure
Stop being a fucking Seia.
>BA husbandoWhat is this latinx even saying
>>575351950this is what I don't understand, nexon will now steal 90 pulls out of you the day you get "unlucky" luck of reaching the character right before pity, now when you get fucked over you are getting extremely fucked over
>>575351987It is pretty funny that the worst change that could happen to BA is a very light version of what every other gacha has
>>575351956detective seia any insights?
>>575352147Black suit
seia means victory
To people arguing about "averages" or how things will work across the entire playerbase in regards to rolls with the new gacha system, you are dumb. People are not "entire playerbases", individuals think in terms that apply to themselves, not some math mumbojumbo. We're either dealing with the most autistic "logical" retards, the worst of this site's contrarians, trolls from other generals, or unironic paid-shills going to bat for the new system. Your "math" argument is being parroted over and over, but nobody should believe it. People don't care if someone else succeeds if they have the possibility of being disadvantaged by this new system. They need to roll back the new system to the current one. As for what I think will happen to the game, it'll probably lose some players. People will spend less and more will go free to play. I'm already f2p for this game, so nothing will change on that front for me. I'm going to continue playing the game, since I like the characters, the music and the story. Yet I am very very disappointed.
Where I can send Nexon my totally real, not slop design?
this is the most pornographic thing in BA historymicrobikini on a flat student is one thing (kayoko)normal bikini on a sag student is one thing (hasumi)but putting a microbikini on a sagger that barely covers the pepperoni is too far
>>575351956>where the fuck are they coming from?New Delhi, unironically
>>575352147Your nigga Black Suit?
>>575352147For me, it's Master Shiba
>>575352047Yes it is. The higher chance of going below 200 on the first set of banners makes up for it.
>>575352012>What gacha are you moving in nowThe middle schooler magical girls age gap romance
>>575351509BD2 was forced to revert the censorship after players deleted their accounts and mass refunded, hopefully BA players can back up their words and do the same.
>>575351785Yeah, pretty much. If it's one banner only it's really good, BA released multiple banners. Also newfag is getting fucked so hard
>>575347879lol
>>575351985Nexon kills games all the time
>>575352147bro hating on black suit
It's very hard not to be a lolicon these days.
>>575352036200 is literally the most common pull plan for banners and double banners specially, getting 1 and pitying the other, do you even play the game?
>>575352214That skindentation...
>>575352171it doesn't help that Nexon is known for manipulating rates...
>>575351981Oh yeah, she slipped my mind. A strong combatant that can teleport anywhere is hard to plan against.
>on ave-no one gives a shit about averages, all it takes is a single bad banner to sour the experiencepeople will literally boycott companies and banks over a single bad customer experience
All you had to do was spend money on stella sora.
>>575352347Are you going to roll 200 once and then never roll again and quit the game?
>>575350867>complaining about waking up next to her and the equivalent of married life voiced momotalkfag
>>575349430The math is only calculating the overall chances, it doesn't give a value to the build-up of points, which is what we are losing.In the old system, whenever you got the rateup student your points were still there, with the new system the points are gone the moment you get the student.You get the student on the coin flip at 100? Good, but you lose 100 points. Get the student at 150? You lose your 150 points.You have to roll all the way to 200? You are even with the old system, At 200 you won't have any points but you will have the student.So, basically it punishes you for getting the student early. And in the worst case scenario, you are in the same situation than before.
>>575352067You may hate us, but I really want you to know I greatly enjoy your posts. I like to think back on them and laugh at how often you guys lose.
>>575352214>microbikini on a flat student is one thing (kayoko)Where was this?
La creatura
>>575352036stop being retarded nigga. most people will get two or more banner students if they can get them within a single spark. the changes make it much less likely to happen (look at the graph you linked, bro...) so you'll get less rate-ups on average. a third less, even. now instead of getting 2 students on 3 out of 4 banners, it'll happen every other banner instead. hope you rike (trust me, you'll regret defending it soon enough. that's not a threat, that's a warning)
>>575352303Still not playing your yurige garbage btw.
>wake up>/bag/ in flamesSo I see it's pandemonium summer after all, any other banners get announced?
So why didn't Aris and Kei just>*time stops*>*shoots deca*>"Should have gotten anti-timestop skill"
This has to be illegal in some way, people need to start filing lawsuits against nexon. Can't believe they fucking did this shit on makoto-fes, no fucking fes deserves this shit but I'm even more pissed that it happened on one of my favorite students fes.
So the number of pyro needed to get both banner girls is down about 1200 (give or take 500) on average over the long run, and your wasted 10 tickets carry over instead of being a waste, but the worst luck scenario just got way way way fucking worse. It's also a nightmare to plan your pulls in advance now. Do I have that right?
gehnna volume was kino when hina got put in a coma and was absent for the rest of the volume
>>575352482Merch corner
>>575351987Imagine surviving clawing you your way out the dark hole (being released between prime genshin and uma musume) just to kill yourself after
IF NEXON WANTED MONEY SO BADLY THEY COULD'VE JUST GIVEN IBUKI A BIKINI
>>575352482
>>575352460You are more likely to get both banner students in under 200 rolls under the new system which makes up for losing the points.
>>575352559>Makoto-fes >*set the game on fire* pfftttt
>>575352206>We're either dealing with the most autistic "logical" retardsRio is among us...
>pandemonium fest>an actual pandemonium
>>575351956It's just a couple ragebaiters. /bag/ has habitually had a problem where it can't spot the most obvious trolls and always give them attention.
>>575352589>the worst luck scenario just got way way way fucking worsethe worst luck scenario is exactly the same, you pull 200 if its a single or 400 if its a double. The averages are better. The high rolls are gone
I might actually be mad if Ichika and Kasumi stuff did not exist in gehenna volume
My average > your average
>>575352589No, the worst luck scenario is better. The chance of having to double spark goes from 1/16 to 1/64.
>>575352731A big part of it is probably flashback
>>575352214It's not even microbikini, the stores just don't have her size just like Hasumi's
>>575352589Worst case was always a double spark which is less likely in the new system because of the 50/50s.
>>575352617>Survive year 1 almost dying>Survive the KV betrayal>Survive countless other dramasIt'll be fine
>>575352668No, you aren't rajeet.
>>575352532It would seem their victory has caused some anger.
>>575351969i think people really are that stupid.all this exists to trick people with averages rather than looking at the overall distribution.my faith in humanity is basically gone, people are just smart enough to be tricked
You don't need every new student
>>575352704bravo kideo hojima
>>575352735>averages with your average
>>575351523Maybe we could have just received a pirate themed gachaIt's surprising enough but still close to swimsuits
>>575352214Too bad she is generic as shit and nowhere near as popular as the big names.
The state of this general is so bad even bananazos doesn't want to look at it
>>575352418I roll once in a quarter. It will take a year before I see a reasonable benefit. Until then I will have to deal with lost pity, "winning" at 190 pulls and needing to wait for a rerun.
>>575352559Pandemonium really got shafted hard by this. I wish they got shafted hard by me instead
75% > 56%What's so hard to understandu...
>Lost 50/50First time?
>>575352864just makes it easier to rape it
>>575352776But their relationship dynamic feels like it could lead to some amazing plot drama and conflict.
Id rather take Nexon announcing $20 skin for iMari in her nun outfit than this shit
>>575350554Bro your filters?
>>575351785Bad luck is when you don't get any rate up in 200 rolls anyway.
I wish Satsuki would hypnotize me
>>575352808Why are you here if you don't even like the game?
*munch munch*
God Iroha's swimsuit is so fucking ugly.
>>575352809No shit, look at those gambling apps coined as prediction market. This world is fucked
People genuinely defend bad game decisions just to own some "trolls", crazy
>browsing the Banner announcement>every single japanese post is negative>EVERY>SINGLE>ONEI have never seen Japan so mad at something
>>575352887apparently 200 pulls to get the second student on pity is not the most common strategy now so that chance going down is irrelevant anon, we have lived in an alternative dimension all along
>>575352910>sidegrade system vs. skinsNo.
>>575352829Why does the currency look like a recolored fgo quartz ?
>>575352589>and your wasted 10 tickets carry over instead of being a wasteare you retarded? if you get the rate up student your pity counter is reset, there's literally nothing to be carried over. the only way something carries over is if you don't get what you wanted in the first place
>>575352664>microbikini on its own would look forced>cover it with the see through dress fabric to balance out the design and make it more sexogod who is the artist that designed this? this is inhumane levels of genius
>>575352617>prime…genshin.>>575349517>literal gay twink mc
>>575351249>If you are deadset on spending 200 rolls only.If they stick with the new system, I think this is what will have to change. People will need to get comfortable planning around two sparks in the bank instead of one and they'll get more students on average in the long run. I can understand why a lot of anons dislike it.
I didn't know Iroha wears lolita outfits
>>575352910you don't want to be like that trash nikke
>get student at 190 in the old gachayipee>get student at 190 in the new gachanyoooosimple as
>>575352875It takes 400 rolls for the new system to have a higher success rate of getting 4 banner students.
>>575351785Yeah, the new pull meta is you need 48k minimum on any given double banner in order to guarantee both. The old is that you used to be to get both in 24k most of the time, and only needed 48k in the extreme worst case scenarios. Now 300 is the bare minimum for luckfags instead of 200, but you'll need to plan for 400. If/when you do get lucky on the banner, you will always get less than before unless you hit the 50/50 100 twice in a row.
Thank you based Nexongod for removing the spark so I'll no longer have to need complete the 200 rolls ever again
>>575352147BA had male students since day 1
where do you check the posts/min of a thread? i want to see if we were faster when dooming or celebrating
>>575350721You should read the season 2 stories before opening your mouth. Ooparts, gifts, orbs, elephs and ligmas, nails and wrenches had nothing to do with teaching either.
REMINDER HOW EVERYTHING STARTED
>complaining>:/>japanese complaining>:O
>>575352903nahi would win
>>575353008Halo festival part 2Halo festival was the biggest event in the game's history as the two parter with all schools, they started the youtube shorts for it as the very first series, they published LNs and released first drama CDs. And then they nerfed the rewards by 80% after one day.People were very mad, to put it lightly.
>>575353148Sex with this guy.
>>575352986just wait till you see Ibuki's. it's the worst one of the bunch, Iroha's is a masterpiece in comparison
>>575352664>>575353046>give student the tiniest microbikini in gacha history>cover her in a clear plastic bag>this makes it safe for workhow did they get away with this shit
>JP and KR players are nearly unanimously against the changes>/bag/ argues about it for 8 hours straight
I was just thinking of how disgustingly tired I am of 50/50’s in newer games so of course Nexon decided to ruin my day
Students that will apologize to me with their bodies in these trying times?
>>575353061Yeah, that seems to be a sticking point.
>>575352986I mean people keep defending cunnies are always in one pieces since seia, now we get double one pieces with cunnies lmao
I demand string bikini Ibuki as compensation
>>575353008The only time i've seen something similar is with fgo 9th anni coins drama.
>>575353232we have brown people here please understand
I just realised... I don't understand what the fuck is the difference between the three Valkyrie Bureaus.
>>575353232Being Anonymous has it downsides.
>>575353225Kayoko's an adult so it's fine
I'm so fucking tired of this game having some gay ass drama every fucking month
>>575353225God I wish Kayoko stepped on me
>>575353061>peopleseanigs aren't people. they were leeches that are better off gone
>>575353027because it will have spark of 300 and take a year of farming for only one.
>>575352910>$20 skinoh we can do much worseskin gacha
>>575353260Ibuki
>>575352903Last good genshin character.
>>575352668No.To get both students on 200 rolls before you only needed to get ONE student under 200 rolls.Now to get both students on 200 rolls you need to hit the 50/50 two times in a row.
>>575352963Why are you? You’re seething over Pandemonium getting stuff just because they have a Nazi military aesthetic and lolis. I ain’t gonna play your literal lgbt slop games even if they didn’t reverse this. Why don’t you go to a game you like, instead of crying that BA will never cater to you?>>575352986I will admit I can see how you could think that if you are homosexual and disgusted by attractive women.
>>575353109I'm just a casual, I spend very rarely on the pass, then I spend some hundreds on merch like figures and other goods every now and then... but if I stop getting characters I will simply move onto something else since I will stop caring about them if I cant get them in game to know them, I dont know if I am being extreme or this is the casual player mindset, either way I hope they revert it
>>575353232nigga we're being raided
>>575353238its funny that the mood is starting to shift against 50/50 now that new games are removing it
>/bag/ = gooks and nips
>>575353008cool, if everyone hates it, and the system is suppose to be 'better' on average. Then the easiest way forward is to revert the changes, users are happy, the company is happy cause the gacha is worse on average which means more money from pulls. Everyone gets what they wanted. If they dont change it, then it means the gacha changes are beneficial to the devs and not to the players right?
>>575347973actually we can't spark bashlash anymore, there's a 50% chance of backlash at 100 pulls though
KR are angry.
>>575353008>japs finally stop playing BAthank god, now global can finally get priority when new events drop
>have no interest in other gachas but go check their generals anyway>it's just as full of schizos as this one, maybe even worsewhy are gacha toddlers so mentally ill?
>>575353232>KRThey are doing the exact same shit as /bag/. Math, shitposting, and dooming.
>>575348469not true at all, but this is nexon, and the convoluted way they are trying to upsell it mean yes this is to benefit them
>>575353150750 divided by (time of 750th post minus time of thread creation), in minutes
>>575353232>zhengong>japaneseThese are planted shills.
>>575349596A few days ago I had a dream where I was about to have selfcest with myself as my own little brother.
>>575353414Yeah, at this point it doesn't even really matter what the numbers do or don't show. The changes are indisputably unpopular.
>>575353109another thing is that if you value dupes at all your expected value is way lower. that's why they did this btw, to bait more rolls from whales.
>>575353334Kinda goes without saying when it’s the only game that doesnt buy into degeneracy, all the degens seethe over that.
>>575353305It's Peace, Safety and Security right?
>>575353379You hit the 0.7% chance in the first scenario and not the second. It's not the same comparison.
>>575353462>True to his Swdish heritage, this bastard kills his own mother with every major move he makes
>Asian society ruins her life because their an Asian society>Vows to burn it all to the groundName a more justified villain?
>>575353454The messengers that announced the kill...
So is wuwa the only universally beloved gacha with zero issues now?
>>575353305one issues traffic ticketsone catches thieves and criminalsone deals with terrorists like Kaya
>>575349254/bag/ are a bunch of retarded niggers who will defend damn near everything Nexon does at this point. This place unironically sucks for critical discussion about the game, but I still come back here because most of the other communities are censorship hell.
>>575353486it's like you don't know what this board is for
>want 1 pick-up with 1 to 200 rollsnew is strictly better>want 2 pick-ups with EXACTLY 200 rollsold is better>want 2 pick-ups with 400 rollsnew is bettertl;dr don't be a retard and always have two sparks ready for when, you know, you want 2 rate-ups
>Ibuki swimsuit sucks>Hina swimsuit absolutly fucking sucks>Iroha swimsuit sucks>Still no Ako swimsuitwhy does Nexon hates Gehenna so much?
>>575353008>>575353232knowing japs, they will forget about it in a week
>>575353334Everything else in the past few months has been easily ignorable nothingburgers but this one's actually serious this time
>>575352829I wish the mc was a guy of the same age of the girls that is also a mage.I'm not a fan of being an useless npc, I prefer when you as mc are playable, even if you are shit gameplaywise
>>575353592Go back.
>>575353232as proud WHITE men, we will ALWAYS support nexon in whatever they doonly sheeple are angry
>>575353486You are the problem, anon. Not "part of the problem." (YOU) are the direct and sole problem in all containment generals.
If they are really angry™ then are we going to see other things aside funny elephants?
>>575353486Look at what other gachas have in them. The schizos here are just from those gachas that got mad that BA doesnt have their stuff, but those games actually are filled with that shit. That’s a breeding ground for freaks.>>575353637Honestly all of Pandemonium’s swimsuits are among the best
>>575353632I have never once had to go to 400 to get two units. Stop being retarded and realize this is meant to make you spend more.
>>575353107And it's worse to get 2 students in double banner. If I pull I want to get the students, I don't care about points carrying over to the next. It's objectively worse for the current BA release schedule.
>>575352978This image ENRAGES ME
>>575353486>Games made for monkeys with 0 entry barrier full of goon bait They always attract the bottom of the barrel everywhere.
When did it all go so wrong ?
>>575353454we're gonna need a bigger stake for them (like an actual stake, bring back witch hunts)
I think the real problem is that unless you have a PhD in mathematics you cannot understand if the change is good or bad so you automatically assume that is bad
>>575353232No.. y-you see.. people from other generals are using this to shitpost, therefore, I have to take the objectively worst side of the argument so that they do not have a point.... also, doomposting is bad or something
Now that BA EOS is only a month away, which game are we all migrating to?
>>575353486It didn’t used to be quite this bad, I miss the pre-covid era
>>575353232Anon, that is twitter, are you a fucking normie agreeing with twitter? Think about it, you want to be like twitter? you need to make sacrifices to not be like them, accept the new system to not be normiecore
>slide 2> 「呼び出しチャージ」のリセットについて「呼び出しチャージ」がリセットされるタイミングは、同種類の任意のピックアップ募集でピックアップ対象をお迎えした時のみで、ピックアップ募集開催ごとのリセットではありません。また「10回募集」でピックアップ生徒をお迎えした際、対象生徒が登場した時点で「呼び出しチャージ」がリセットされ、以降カウントが「1」からスタートします。(例)・ピックアップ募集にて、募集を累計58回行ったものの、ピックアップ生徒をお迎えできなかった場合呼び出しチャージのカウント数は「58」 ・上記から、さらに10回募集」を1回行い、その3番目でピックアップ生徒をお迎えした場合呼び出しチャージのカウント数は「61」で一度リセットされ、該当の10回募集」終了時の呼び出しチャージのカウント数は「7」になります。does this mean your pity resets if you get spooked by someone who's on a banner? Like you roll for sMakoto and get sSatsuki
>>575353632>tl;dr don't be a retard and always have two sparks ready for when, you know, you want 2 rate-ups
>>5753438711) Combine the new with the old: 100th roll is 50/50 guaranteed 3*, 200th roll is guaranteed rateup, the points don't disappear and you can exchange them for other students/elephs/keystones2) 100th roll becomes guaranteed rateup
>>575353641koreans and chinamen will keep the grudge for generations to comethe latter especially. chinamen still haven't forgiven the mahjong collab
>>575353814No, you need to get the one you're currently rolling for.
>>575353730Are there more than 2 double banners in the future that you want to roll for? Then the new system is better for you.
>>575353796Blue Archive
>>575353632why would anyone want 2 pick-ups with 400 rolls
>>575353813>disagreeing with JP Twitter
>>575353814Most likely no since it has to be the rate up banner student but it would be funny to see it happen though.
>>575353730If global is on an accelerated schedule and we get the change early wouldn't that be worse? Like gigga bad?
We will never get Suou, game will EoS first...
>>575353632The retards here assuming you'll always get the second scenario is mindblowing. This has never been the case and people claiming it to be is pure revisionism. I must be crazy cause I feel like I'm the only one old enough to remember the /bag/ adage of "Never roll unless you have a spark".
>>575353814sMakoto and sSatsuki are not on the same banner so you're fine.
So they dropped the ibuki swimsuit to somehow damage control the system change..
>all the nips hate itMeanwhile someone who actually did the math and came to the exact same conclusionhttps://x.com/yankeiori/status/2081368386739806454
>>575353486FGO and /alter/ in particular used to be "the worst" by a mile. But at some point Mihoyo threads took over, specially genshin.
>>575353896japan is diddy shit
>>575353814No, because you don't get the pickup bonus if you do. It's only a 0.02% chance anyways.
>>575353529right, at this point its a no brainer to revert it, if the devs calculated this to be a better gacha rates on average then they're losing money with this change AND getting unwanted hate by all the players. Unless its actually a profitable change and will screw over players theres no reason to continue with the change.
>>575353454Someone here will get stabbed, GG
>>575350085>>575350721>increased daily mat farming
Thank god Ibuki’s design sucks
>>575353582right, or so I think. But when I checked the wiki, security and peace is the same bureau so I am confused.
>>575353791I’m still going to mock the trannies from other games that are infinitely worse when they come here just to blatantly be angry about BA not having degenerate stuff in it. As for the gacha change it’ll probably get reverted, it’s just a slightly worse system in some cases but it’s still not a good change, but that doesnt change that BA is still better than it’s ever been, and that even if BA just stopped existing I wouldn’t play games full of genuine gay shit.
>>575353814No. Remember that each banner has a pickup. So if you get sMakoto on sSatsuki banner, it does not count as a pickup (as in you didn't get the extra pickup elephs before). Retards are thinking it gets reset by wrong spooks.
>>575353984Maybe in 8 more threads of people bitching you'll realise that the math isn't the issue.
>>575353821this is cultural appropriation
>Yongha Kim repostedPositive coverage https://note.com/yankeiori/n/n09bb9f1a8ca9?sub_rt=share_pb
>>575353863Each banner has separate probability, unless you cut your pulls short. If my aim is to get both students I'm more likely to spend over 200. It's your math, not mine.
>>575353746This
>>575354062Plenty of people in this thread do not understand the math. I don't give a shit about muh bad feelings for losing the 50/50.
>>575354053But you only started playing a year ago
here's your fix gweilos...
>>575354121It's literally over
>>575353687>as proud WHITE men
The backlash wouldn't have been this bad if they'd just given us summer C&C like we wanted
>>575353796why is ba always a month away from eos, i think it was like that last year too
>diddyzoomers don't even try it's so funny
>>575354053same ngl
>>575354121I don't think that's gonna do him any good. It was their job to explain it in a positive light in the first place.
>>575354121what does this mean
>>575354128You are also more likely to spend under 200.
>>575354157The issue is not the 50/50 but losing the acumulated points.
>>575353918I doubt they would want to release it out of order. It's pretty significant balance and software change.
>>575353727>>575353895Aaaaaaaaaand the smoothbrains are the most vocal as usualLet's say you inserted 4 100 yen coins in the gachapon machineWould you rather end up with 4 toys at the end or 5?If you like 5 better than 4 then you'll like the new system more than the old system. Happy?>>575353930I think these people are barely even sentient, it's a legit miracle they manage to live their day to day lives without getting ran over by a car or choking on crayons
>>575353378Furina was nice too.
Eligma is actually a problem though unless the new rewards for pulling compensates for the loss of the 200 guarantee dupe.
Apologize.
>>575354121https://x.com/yankeiori/status/2081368386739806454reception
>>575354303>weapon gachaNo.
>>575353990It was /gbfg/ that was the worst
>>575353727To get to 400 you have to lose 2 50/50 AND never hit 0.7% a single time in the other 396 pulls, if you're that unlucky then you wouldnt have hit a featured in 200 on the old system either
>>575354121they needed to explain more during the slide to not have the unrest and rage grow to this size. But its a anni stream and no one cares about maths ona ppt slide.
>>575354165>cute thumbnail reminiscent of hinadori brats>full art is overdesigned slop
>>575354192It'd still be pretty bad.
>>575348697he looks like a jew
Okay, but have you thought of thisIt will be really fucking funny seeing people post about getting shit in their 50/50 or ragging about getting the banner unit at 190
>>575354259he's saying it's better for everyone except for whales
>>575354157Congrats. You can find a retarded to take a dumb stance on anything. Doesn't make ignoring real issues with the system any more valid.I don't give a shit about it costing literal peanuts less on average.
>>575353486>maybe even worseAnon I hate to tell you this but /bag/ is one of the better ones
>>575353842they just need to either add the pity system to the old system (your #1 suggestion basically) OR make the pity not reset if you get the rate up before 200 (only resets when you get her on the guaranteed 200th roll)
>>575354303It was all their fault btw, during and after the sabotage we had one of the worst banners in history of Blue Archive with nothing good to roll in-between. No wonder the revenue tanked.
>>575354372What a fucking sloppy dogshit design
The retards here assuming you'll always get the first scenario is mindblowing. This has never been the case and people claiming it to be is pure revisionism. I must be crazy cause I feel like I'm the only one old enough to remember the /bag/ adage of "Never roll unless you have a spark".
>>575354390no it wouldn'tseeing bad gacha rolls is only funny in dogshit like fatewhen my /bag/ brothers are hurting it doesn't feel good at all
>>575354053based
>>575354162Almost 2 years ago, and I’d technically started playing about 3 years ago but not seriously. Not that it matters, my point remains the same, and it’s a fact every other gacha is filled with degen shit, so the ones shilling them here are undeniably tranny freaks who are just mad about the lolis and the game being for straight men.
>>575354390I have and concluded that I'll be the victim of it. And I will damn sure bitch so much about it to make it /bag/s problem as well.
>>575354372Better than S.Makoto and S.Iroha tbdesu. With double layered swimsuit on one, and a granny hat on the other.
i dont give a fuck about averages or maffsi fucking hate coinflipssimple as
>>575354390that's mihomo generals and it sucks
Just woke up and saw /bag/ complaining, explain what happened before I uninstall
>>575354157Unless Im retarded the retarded version is like this>beforeif you get 1 student within 199 pulls, you get the other one with whatever is left to 200 pulls. >nowthere is a 50% chance to get 1 student at 100 pulls, if you do, you need to do another 100 pulls to gamble again. If you fail the 50/50, but you get a student within 199 pulls, you need to repeat this process again and the 199 points are wiped
>>575354440He knew itThat damn dog knew itNever trust corpos
People here a retards who like to think they're smarter than everyone else (they aren't). So yeah, the new system is definitively garbage when everyone everywhere thinks its shit but the mentally retarded people here
>>575353334There's barely any drama before this, the fuck do you mean?
>>575354390Before you could go 200 rolls without seeing a single 3*. Now the game will force Miyako onto you at 100 pulls.
Akane Love!I guess is over, Seia Tanemura was right!
>>575354303I suppose this proves that Doom Age wasn't because of them because holy shit what is this decision making
>>575354450nta but the chart actually showed the revenue was pretty good recently
>>575354595yeah eveyrone else thinks it's shit >>575354121
>>575354595it's just the post stream raid
>>575354447The rates are so close to the old system they don't even need to do that.Most people seem angry about the lack of elephs from dupes and / or the potential for how shit going deep will feel.Just make it so that if you lose the coinflip then when you hit the guarantee you get extra elephs or thrown back a 10 pull ticket as a consolation prize or something.
>>575354372Iris was the only ok design that thing could ever did
The worst thing that is about to happen to us is the standard for others.
I want to cum here
>>575354680now let's read the reception and replies!
>>575354680>all the replies are pointing out why it's wrong
>>575354328It's funny because this is the exact "argument" retarded baggots keep regurgitating over and over again and thinking this is some kind of gotcha enough to qualify as being irredeemably stupid
>>575354390NyoThe despair post during the /alter/ days was way more soulful than 50/50 slop
>change for the sake of change is... LE GOOD
>>575354675I guess Nexon wasn't doing so hot after all, huh? No wonder there were talks about them selling the company during KV fiasco.
>>575354303fuck..Samurais are objectively cooler, you don't have to change the theme just because you got sued, just change the fucking designs
>>575353930yeah and even if you don't get anything until roll 390 you can still finish out the second spark for a cheap dupe.in the new system you won't get the chance
Can someone explain the new system without seething and schizo babble?From what I've seen it sounds like we're getting Hoyo gacha with a coinflip at 100 and no pity carryover. That about right?
>>575354761Yeah the replies are just "I don't like it because muh emotions"
>>575354595>People here a retards who like
>>575354793I mean now>>575351819
>>575348892Siiiiiiiiigh.Guess I'm moving to the project kv gacha. It was a good run while It lasted.
>>575354328I love how the retards who go by personal biases always pull the "expected value doesn't count" card
>>575354827no they're not, they bring up actual math
>>575354726It's better. Losing a coinflip in mihomo slop is still getting you the same dogshit characters from launchIt does put an amusing slant on it at least, even if I'm not thrilled about them making the change.
Honestly, I find it extremely unbelievable for Sensei to have a bunch of random students take down SRT confidently without knowledge over everyone's ability.
>new system is good for playerswhy would a gacha game change the system so people spend less, think!
>>575354726Hmm, then why they come here to shit up our general if they have great game with fair rates and math favouring the player? Something doesn't add up here.
>>575354738Made for harapan
>>575354927This is not the time for miyakowank
>>575354825Hoyoslop system correct (but worse since it's a static 100 without ramping rate increases)
>>575354504>when my /bag/ brothers are hurting it doesn't feel good at allbased
>>575354948BECAUSE NEXON LOVES US
Fuck bros... I don't think even saggers can keep me from falling for the doomposts...
>>575354825At 100 rolls you recive a "charge" which means you can spend it to have a 50/50 chance of getting the banner unitAt 200 you get the normal pity, that's unchangedBut the thing is, if you ever get the banner unit before getting the charge, all those points resetsSo lucking out Nozomi at 190 will make you unable to get Hikari without spending another 200 pulls
>>575354591In the long run you will save pyro and have more ligma, but in the short term you will feel loses much more acutely. That's why there are the 30 dollar store items to just buy 120 eleph of the limited banner girls now. To appease the whales.
>>575354886Saying numbers isn't bringing up math by the way. Also doing calculation with the wrong premise is worse.
>>575354927You mean V4C1? The point there was that you were fighting "elites" with barely any training and overwhelming them with sheer numbers.
>>575354948why would trannies be seething here if something bad happened to ba though
>>575354825>spark replaced with "pity">hard pity at 200 "pity count">if at any point you get the rate-up student then pity count instantly goes to 0>at 100 rolls you get a 50% chance to get the rate-up student, if you fail the 50% you get another 3* guaranteed instead
>>575354948Because the more I like the game the more I start forking over money to amiami or buying gift pakeji.I've spent a fair chunk on BA, none of it has been to get more rolls bar the monthlies which are partially motivated by tickets anyway.
>>575354812agreed, they are a bunch of pussies for changing the theme
You are a Sensei who presumably teaches your students math. 67 67 67 67 67 67 67
>>575354121>here's a 500 word essay explaining why you should be happy about this, actuallyI'm honestly grateful they didn't bother to pull the wool over people's eyes on stream with something like this. Now it's too late, no amount of point about fucking twitter posts (nigger are you serious? you're a billion dollar company, justify this shit on your own) about muh averages is gonna get the genie back into the bottle.
>>575354260No, the increased probability is due to 50/50 pity. Individual rate is still the same. If you lose it, you're will be going past 200 pulls. You will be pulling with pity at most twice per banner. There will not be enough chances to balance the average into something that feels good.
>>575354825It's better if you roll one just one student per banner rotation. It's worse if you roll for several.
>>575354710>The rates are so close to the old systemthat's only if you want one banner student. if you want two or more that's not the case at all. the pity "charge" not resetting when you get a rate up would allow you to keep going until 200 if you get the first one only, like you currently can
>>575355006the new system is only bad for senseis that keep amassing pyros forever equalization better
>>575348406>if the game fails they will invest into a fully 3d gamethey won't retard the VN is the point of this game but I would like it if they actually utilized the chibis more
>>575355025I thought the pity doesn't carry over between banners?
it's totally a good decision, that's why they hid it by having no audience and not focusing on it at all on stream and it's not like people QUIT games with 50/50 over it being very unpleasant in general (they do)
>>575354948did you forget the three times where it did benefit the players in the past so far or did you just get here to shitpost with no game knowledge?
>>575354981a worse gacha than genshit...i kneel nexon
>>575355126The average does balance out. Many people have already done the simulations.
>guys we hate money so much we made the gacha friendlier for you, we won't show the maths nor explain the chances, refer to random twitter users to explain it on our behalf, ignore that we waited until there was no audience to show it
Seeing how bad my last few sparks have been, I don't trust this system at all.
>>575353771lol, just program a Monte Carlo simulator to find out.
>>575354303Oratorio sucks. KV looked better but they had to shoot themselves in the foot by advertising it as the Mighty No.9 to BA's Megaman.
>hmmm I would change the door I picked because le math said le soIt's still 33%. You lose.
>>575355124>Now it's too late, no amount of point about fucking twitter posts (nigger are you serious? you're a billion dollar company, justify this shit on your own) about muh averages is gonna get the genie back into the bottle.>nigger are you serious? you're a billion dollar company, justify this shit on your ownKEK good point
>mathsLMAO THIS NIGGER BRITISH
>>575355198Changing rates from 2% to 3% and spark from 300 to 200 actually made people spend more thoughbeit
>>575353771even a high schooler can figure this out, are you retarded?
>>575355205nah fag genshin literally has males in it
>>575355340>>575355340>>575355340
>>575355106>Mathematically it's better for you!How is it better than just lowering the goal from 200 to, say, 150?
Should have been Wild Hunt summer then none of this would have happened
>>575354192We need Asuna to save us again...
>>575350761No, because cute girls as based.
>>575355025>can spend it>getting the chargeYou don't "get" a charge, and you don't "spend it". You just automatically get the student at those junctions, no choice, no strategy, no holding onto the spark for later.
>>575355391Either to follow other games in the industry so new players won't be confused or to encourage rolling without a spark.
So, the average of the new system looks better and also I could do something like rolling for Konoka 100 times if I get her then good, if not the pity is saved for Kurumi (like I wish I could do now). I might get fucked some banners and get lucky others which is the same way as before.Therefore, I will keep playing BA and I won't play your gay gacha to all the discord faggots here and I won't open your dumb generals not even out of curiosity.
>>575355209averages are irrelevant, the point is to reduce the probability of an extreme bad luck scenario (400 rolls)the old system is better at that
>>575355209The probability is a nice thing, right? It will show you how many times you will win over 1000s of chances. Now do that over 12 50/50 chances per year. The spread will be much worse and individual player will feel like shit. There's a reason 50/50 is considered shit system by the whole gacha playerbase.
>>575355521>so new players won't be confusedI have seen politicians using this argument to justify NOT lowering taxes because the people are already used to paying high taxes and lowering them could lead to confusion.
>>575355521>follow other games in the industry so new players won't be confusedfucking cattle
>>575354012People might roll more and even buy crystals if they wouldn't lose everything when banner changes.Ie. I would roll for Rena, then maybe buy some pakeji for fes banner. Now I sit on my crystals and save 24000 for limited banner.
>>575354390For every one of those posts, I will take solace in never having to se a /bag/got get to 200 without a single purple.
>>575354591There is just one little thing. Is>If you get 1 student within 200 pulls Not 199If you get your student in the 200th roll you can instantly get the other (or a dupe) from the recruitment.The rest is correct.
coom in doomrope in hope
i got all 4 banners in 120 pulls, how does the new system affect me?
>>575361798With the new system you'll need 800 rolls because of the undocumented adjusted rates.
