>Steam pagehttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3787240/MARVEL_Tkon_Fighting_Souls/>TEAM TRAILERS :>Unbreakable X-Men https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwe13-BKiwo>Amazing Guardianshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nwtrXnN0vY>Fighting Avengershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Iab74kM-xA>Knights of Doomhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI4qG-wqhLc>Samurai Outridershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QGiaEkqYEE>Phoenix Cyclops revealhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GrMqmDi-SU>Opening intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSk3IMcgVQYOpen beta weekend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UlNl6VB0gPrevious Thread: >>575244842
Sex with robots
FIX THE PC PORT
>>575386507literally confirmed to be a fetish choice by the devs btw
>>575386579Based
>>575386507Why does she have dreadlocks
now the beta is wrapping up, what are we saying?https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJae5VBg3
I asked before and everyone ignored me, why do the bots in my training room have 85k health instead of 100k when all the characters are unlocked?
>>575387110Gameplay wise is a 60%, the system mechanics need lots of tuning.Technical part is a 0%, atrocious dogshit.Everything else, characters, graphics, how the stages look, the art in the menus, the story, is a nice 100%, Arcsys really put their soul into it and I can tell even if I'm not a Marvelfag. Too bad the devs making the gameplay are... well lol
https://streamable.com/r18ehlimpossible combo. preorder cancelled
The one thing this game does right is going back to the hard rock roots of Fighters. So sick of hip hop bullshit in SF
>>575387795you can do it anonI learned that this game had jump cancels and learned how to do them in a combo in a hour, never done them before in a gameI also play peni
>>575388129i cant do it im not buying this shti if this is the bare minimum
>>575387795I tried copying a Wolverine combo he has in his tutorial video but Captain always spark rolled out of it like what's going on here.
>>575388078>tokon>hard rocku 'avin a giggle m8?
>>575386114this is going to be the least played character in the game, right?
>>575388347nah she is lowkey busted, it's probably goblin because hes hard to use
>>575388347No if they buff active tag at all she'll become S tier and you'll see her everywhere.
>>575388347she's an absolute gorilla so no
>>575388645>>575388567>>575388464she looks lame as fuck thought I mean from a casual perspective nobody is going to pick her when you have actual cool characters in the game
>guys trust me tokon has cool combos>start looking at loops>special special special assist special special assist special 5L special assist special superIt's DNF Duel all over again.
>>575387795i underestimate how shit people are at execution i guess.
>>575388347Least played will probably be Danger or Green GoblinDanger because she's rather clunky to useGoblin because he's the most complex of the bunch so far
>>575388756I think she looks cute. I have her in my team because I like her anti air assist, I might learn her when the game drops to properly abuse her and fully use my team
>>575387060What else is a robot going to do with all her cables?
>>575384939Don’t ever refer to apocalypse as en sabah nur again you look like a faggot and a poser faggot. Same goes for people who call Superman “kal”
>>575386114no Carol, no buy!>>575388347Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man are the only characters i'd really play if i bought this game before they revealed Captain Marvel. she's cute and looks fun!
I genuinely don't understand how people do or learn combos in this game when pressing a button twice leads into an auto combo or how people even know about other combos. I straight up don't want to look outside of the game to learn this shit either because it always sucks or I just can't process it right. Yes I actually have a learning disability.
>>575388795>modern arcslop>cool combosliterally not possible
>>575389741People who want to learn combos don't mindlessly mash buttons you only get autocombo by accident if that's what you do.
>>575389898But I'm not mashing though
>>575389981So then you're intentionally pressing the same thing twice and getting upset that it doesn't magically do what you want it to?
Is it just me or this game has massive issue when it comes to character kit difficulty? Peni,Caps or Goblins combos require micro walks and adjustments while Blade,Black Panther and Magik are braindead big button baby mode faggot shit. I know thats a thing with majority of fighting games but this issue is straight up massive here like difficulty disparity between characters and reward is fucking insane in this game like what the actual fuck nigga its like some of these characters kits shouldnt be in this game.
I'm not in front of the game right now, what are most people complaining about when it comes to throws and rolls?
>>575390265Blade doesn’t feel as baby mode compared to magik and panther to me because of how sluggish he kinda feels. His launcher whiffs a lot for me too
>>575389741I've been double pressing buttons to confirm in fightan games for decades and I hate how this game (and Grubble) don't let me do that
might transition into a QS enjoyer
https://streamable.com/rtsp3h
final notes:- snoy fucking up pc players- input motions weird or just straight up not registering- they REALLY don't want you to fuzzy jump.- Offense, wow! SUGOI, KAKKOI. Defense? Yikes. Cringe- Don't know why they kept the lariat assist I thought they removed this shit since players complained how much sauce is lost the first time around- Specific assist calling is also just weird or straight up not registering- Magik is your Ken, your Nago, your Hworwhatever. Free wins.Fun overall, some issues, but a pass for me because fuck Sony and their 12+ anti-cheats, I had to suffer on Windows for a full weekend.
>>575389286Do you get mad when they call him Tony Stark?
>>575390940>might transitionStopped reading there
>>575391101>- input motions weird or just straight up not registeringI noticed this too
>>575388347We still don't have a 1-star character so someone in the final game should be harder than Danger and Green Goblin and some people already seem to find them too hard.
>>575390660thats just you anon. watch some high lvl tourneys and you will see. theres a reason why everyone has pocket blade. after you get over that "sluggish" feeling of him its worth it,hes very strong and very easy to play that nigga basically actual shoto instead of cap america since cap has tight combos and shield gimmick while blade is just big booty damage with big booty baby combos. hes not mashy since he has lots of recovery frames on some of his moves but yeah hes def easiest character to pick up in entire roster.
>>575391101Oh yeah, forgot this- BBTAG enjoyers will like this
>>575389286I was talking about his design before he became Apocalypse you fucking retard.Don't talk to me ever again.
>>575391406Of the 4 that weren't in the beta, the only one I could see being 1-star would be Loki
>>575391820watch deadpool being hardest gimmicky shit to play just because kek
>>575391820We have no idea how he's going to play yet
>>575386114Why the fuck is this game full of so many one on and done bitches? It's a fucking beta and people are one and done like there's something on the fucking line what the actual fuck it's making me want to say slurs. I just want to run some fucking sets what the fuck.
>>575391779Again don’t ever refer to him as such again. Just because you figured out his name because of X-men shitsy seven doesn’t make you look cool for calling him that, you look like a fake poser faggot fucking faggot. Nobody calls Wolverine James Howlett but fake faggots
>>575392087it's a game made for casual normalniggers what did you expect? dbfz and strive were like this when they came out too. hell i had people rage quitting in 2cox alpha lab
>>575392087Pc specs?
>>575392087its a fighting game based on normgroid IP. its a lot better than invincible beta was too because holy shit normies who watched amazon show and tried beta were seething as fuck.
>>575392087Cause no one serious plays this gameIt’s for slop for marvel fans
this game is awfulwhat a shame
>>575391101>input motions weird or just straight up not registeringI feel like there's some weird window where motion inputs aren't accepted during an assist or something, I was trying to do this setup and I kept 5M or 2M instead of the teleport. I wouldn't discount the possibility that it was an execution error, but I tend not to struggle with 22 inputs, and when I tried doing the teleport raw I was getting it everytime. I was also having a hard time getting DP to come out after an assist in a combo I was trying but I get it to come out everytime when I do a combo without assists.
>>575391931Would be very funny, especially for such a popular character>>575391959Obviously we don't know how he plays yet, but Loki's powers inherently lend themselves to creating a complicated character>Magic user>Has a heavy focus on clones, illusions, deception, etcOf course there's always a chance that they just showcase his powers in a visual way with his attacks and not a mechanical one, but IF we get a 1-star character on launch, Loki would be my bet because of his general skill set
>>575392184NUKED that nigga. LOL
>>575392548>all that effort to do 5% more damage than L autocombo
>>575392580lol I can't wait for the guy known for Illusions only Illusion being when he's your point character appearing as the opposing point character before match start.
>>575392580magik and especially blade already are very normal easy to pick up sword users so yeah i wont be suprised at all if arcsys went full retard in a good way with deadpools kit since it would be in character too lol
>>575392228I run the game at a constant 6050809800X3D
>>575392953That combo isn't that much effort, the set up to get the cross-up is a bit of effort because of that input issue I mentioned, but once you get the hit its a fairly easy combo that costs no meter, which I think the autocombos would. The only kind of hard thing about that combo is the second beam and the airdash afterwards, but it's not that bad.
>>575392548Yeah the game feels really janky and like it was sabotaged to make it a mash friendly casual game because I legit do not get the things I input sometimes like you said, yet I can go on any other fighting game and my inputs register just fine.Shame because the game is absolutely gorgeous.
>>575392184People call Wolverine Logan all the time. And Magneto Magnus/Erik. I think you might just be a gigantic faggot.
>>575393236>Magneto Magnus/Erikno one does this ever
>>575393194I don't think making your inputs not come out does anything for making it more mash friendly, though it is an issue regardless. It just makes it feel worse at any level of play except above the one where you're just pressing buttons and not actually engaging with the mechanics at all.
>>575393190it was more a comment on the bad damage scaling of the game as opposed to the difficulty of the setup/combo. light autocombos in dbfz did like 20% damage while a simple ABC launcher ABC jump cancel ABC did 2x the damage. i could've elaborated my point better, but in general i think the risk:reward factor of combos and setplay in tokon is very bad
>>575393236those are real names, though. not sand gibberish. lmfao
>>575393194They changed a lot of shit after closed beta including basic stuff like motion inputs doing more damage. Doing something like this so late means they might have fucked stuff up a bit but it will get smoothed out with patches.
>>575392548for me, it's specifically DP
>>575392184i thought his name was Logan
fucking wasted roster space.
>>575393739I like Danger.
>>575393739I stand with Danger
>>575393787>>575393847You two are faggots afraid of human flesh
>>575393739>everyone was playing starlord last beta because he was strong and ez to play>now blade is that but better and easier>no one picks star lord anymore lol
really wish this game clicked with me but its incredibly hard to me to the point i dont think i have energy to play it
If they add miracle man they can technically check off the crossover box going on in fighters rn. More than likely they’re gonna add sentry at some point instead tho
Still upset I can't play Carnage for another 10 days
>>575393739Called it >>575388942
How fast is Storm's 2U j2H "instant" overhead option anyways? Seems really fast
I was 100% sure that Magneto (MAGNUS) and Doom would be on my team but now I have all kinds of teams swirling around in my head and I might not have either one of them. They seem a bit too zonery for me.
>>575393739danger is /tokon/'s mascot you pig
>>575394730She's trying her best
Do I have to say all that gay shit like 2ml, ak47 and w-d40 when referring to attacks and moves in this game or can I just say light, medium and heavy?
>>575393739>no one picked the new forced black coded characterWOW IMAGINE THE SHOCK ON MY FACE WHEN FAGGOTS REVEAL THEMSELVES AS THE PRETEND INCLUSIVE WOKES THAT THEY ARE! WOW!! SO SHOCKING!!!!
What does the Quick Assemble button actually do?
>>575394907People DO say those bassically>Numbers are just directions on the numpad>L M H are literally just light medium heavy
>>575394907You have to say the gay shit
>>575394907i'll understand you if you say light medium and heavy, anon.
>>575395047I unbinded it immediately but I assume it calls in the assist and tags to them the moment they're available.
>>575390760Fucking finally someone understands what the fuck I'm saying and isn't trying to act like an asshole and talk down to me. This game has such a fucking terrible auto combo system.
i keep losing to mashers
>>575395047>>575395276tagging in after assist calling is one of the sickest things in the game and always catches your opponent off guardhttps://youtu.be/Qft4Ec1AfiQ?si=Upt9FIwERFqvgxvc&t=468
>>575395689Yeah but you can just press the tag button, you don't need quick assemble. Also,>Max
>>575395047It's L+A macro.
>>575395626I was playing against a Wolverine earlier and he would just roll forward and mash L everytime I did a combo and it worked way too often. I really need to find out how to get some oki in this game, that guy is one of only a small few I've lost to more than I beat in the beta and he was playing like a complete monkey.
Am I crazy or is the combo creativity in this game almost non-existent?
>IF YOU MESS WITH THE GHOST RIDER... YOU BECOME A GHOSTsomeone got paid to write this line
>>575395947Is it? Can't you macro L+A separately?
I hate that wolverines standing light attack isn’t just a jab from his claw and it’s an awkward looking stubby low kick. He is a fucking manlet with short legs tf is he kicking for
>>575395991yeah and for those who love mashing after a string you have to start delaying strings slightly
>>575392953>5% more damage than a combo that can only be used on the last round and uses 150 meter
>>575388347>>575388756I knew nothing about this character but I did her shounen hero vibes and cool toku scarf in this anime-ified version of marvel and her fangirl thing is pretty funny, instead of taunts against people like cap she instead says something to the effect of>wow standing still doing nothing, you must be so ahead of me I can't even get why that's a good plan, sasuga capshe really rounds out my edgy antihero team in a fun way aesthetically
I'm genuinely just lost trying to understand this game and I completely don't understand how people do combos when it feels like they never work or you just randomly go into a fucking auto combo. I don't want to do a fucking auto combo God damnit.
>>575396682Stop mashing
I think it's cool diaphone is good at this even if it's early and I believe he likes it when he says so considering he liked babytag
wtf is the significance of all that shit magneto has on the screen, what does it do except be annoying with all the assists on screen too. Looks like you’re in Fred sanfords fucking junkyard fighting him
>>575396773Is this a new cope people have to just handwaved shit?
>>575397228I really like Diaphone because hes most normal white fgc creator and ive been watching him for years but dude says he likes all games anon. He loved DNF Duel,2XKO and BBTAG so him saying that he likes game means nothing lmao. Only time he ever openly said that game sucks was Hunter x Hunter Nen Impact or whatever the fuck that shovelware is called.
>>575396682You can't really do much with combos in this game. At most you can do like, air normal, light, light, medium, heavy (launch or stay grounded), assist + special/unique, light, medium, heavy chain again, maybe into a special to launch and then the game is gonna break your combo for you because it doesn't want you to combo any more and fills up the bar and just forces a reset. It's really gay and retarded.
>>575396682stop pressing the auto combo buttons
Should I drink my beer during dinner or after? I’m tryna get buzzed
my based take is that having 4 characters is too much per team, especially once you have a full assemble meter. its even weirder when the way the game is designed encourages sticking on one character.
>>575392953>>575396348All other things being equal resource-wise, that being two assists spent and no meter spent, this is the damage difference in that situation, and also there's no wallbreak. Also Danger's H autocombo seems to do less than her M one which is weird, but that's why I used the M one.
>>575398529Bro even if you don't press the auto combo buttons the game is gonna gut your combo the moment it goes on for more than like two seconds. You can do a magic series into a special or assist into another magic series into a launcher into an air magic series into otg into another magic series but the game will stop you not long after that.I've been trying fucking everything the game does not let you do anything flashy.
>>575398286This is pretty much every big person on the fgc social media side. Jwong, Sajam, Diaphone, etc all just say good things about every single game unless its universally hated like HxH was. And the bad things they do say are always the most milquetoast critic that don't even really rock the boat. Everyone is petrified of being blacklisted by companies which would impact their early access or professional relationships doing events with them later.
>>575399024>video cuts off right as the game breaks his combo at a measly 12 hitsYou can see it on the blue bar turning red on the side. You can't do shit in this fucking game lolThis game will never achieve the same level or hype or aura that MvC2 and MvC3 did. It's too sterilized and dumbed down to be digestible by children and people who couldn't even tie their own shoes.
>>575399120Come on nigger, 5 seconds on twitter will find you flashier combos than that
>>575399291It cuts off because that's the end of the combo, it's not supposed to be a cool combo video it's just showing the difference between mashing autocombo and doing a more manual combo like here >>575392548
Why are Goblin's assists so dogshit, he might just have the worst ones in the game
>>575399024>25% dmg autocombo vs 32% manualgrim
>>575398425I'm a super casual dummy so what's even the point of this game then? This feels like it just does everything worse while claiming it's to help out casuals when it utterly fails to do so while other games have done it infinitely better.
>>575399450They're all basically that dude. It's smoke and mirrors, the game limits how long you can combo for and it's very strict. You can't do much outside of the very linear little bubble that it'll let you play within.>>575399451Dude, I can literally see in your video that the combo break meter is at it's limit. It cuts off because you can't do any more than that.
if arcsys stopped trying to shove autocombos in every single game that isnt guilty gear, the game might actually be pretty good. fuck casuals.
>>575399615You're asking the same question we all are. For you, a "super casual dummy" to also realize this shows just how out of touch the devs are. 2XKO did the same thing.
Was carried by Magik popularity, peole just fucked of after trying it once
>>575399615It's really pretty. That's about the only praise I can give this game other than that my wife Magik is in it. I guess it's maybe better than Marvel Rivals but both games are slop compared to MvC. Even SF6 and Tekken 8 are better than this game and that's a really low bar. I guess this game might be better than Strive but that's about it.
>>575399745At least in 2xko I could choose to just use my assist real easily and even then it was still mid overall
>>575399663>It cuts off because you can't do any more than that.Yeah, that's what I said. That's the end of the combo because it uses the autocombo. The point of the clip isn't to show off the game's combo system it's just a point of comparison between the reward for an autocombo vs. a manual one.
>>575399809I heavily disagree that it's better than strive and I hate strive
>>575399615in the past you'd fall in love with fighting games when it finally clicked. it might take 5 hours, it might take 50, but you did it cause something drove you to learn. modern devs think that's too much to ask and people need instant gratification or they'll just give up and move onto the next game. turns out with most fighting games making it too easy just makes people give up cause they don't learn anything, get washed when their simple shit doesn't work, and quit. turns out it's the player and not the game. some people just aren't built for fighting games.
>>575399809>even tekken 8let's not get ahead of ourselves now. i think tokon is ass but i'm also a biased oldhead tag player. t8 however is a genuine piece of shit
>>575400228yeah but Yujiro is cooler than any character Tokon will ever have, so it will have that lol
>>575400228As much of a piece of shit that Tekken 8 is, it's still better than Tokon. At least it's not limiting your creativity and options with combos. Yeah it's a braindead offense game with it's own equivalent of slime rush and anti-neutral options but there's still fun to be had with combos. You can't even have fun with combos in Tokon, it's too sterilized.
When does the beta end because I’m tryna watch the Rick and Morty president Curtis spinoff with my gf tonight
>>575400428tekken absolutely does limit your creativity with combos because only certain moves reach, corkscrew, bounce, etc. every game does to some degree. it just doesnt feel ass.
I don't remember any game opening the console to run a script before wtf
>>5754005966 hours
>>575400661>only certain moves reach, corkscrew, bounceThat's normal fighting game shit though. Tekken 8 doesn't have a bar that will immediately break your combo the moment it deems that you did too many hits.
Is this a good controller for this game?It's a Razer Wolverine V2
>>575400428>At least it's not limiting your creativity and options with combos.Tekken completely gave up on making you make up cool combos and think about things like risk/reward/oki/wall carry and turned it into a floating cutscene simulator with 7 and 8
>>575400428combos are pretty much all tokon has. i don't like how simplified they are but there is quite a lot of stuff people are labbing out. don't make me defend this shit game anon
>>575400876it does though. the entire corkscrew once, and scaling your backward movement further and further with every hit is the same thing. its just not as in your face and blatant as a bar.
>>575400210They completely ignore the fact that the learning part is hard and decide they should just remove that aspect entirely and replace it with something that doesn't help smooth the process and lead you towards actually learning how the normal game is played. It's why I always say modern controls in sf6 did it the best.
>>575400876if tekken 8 didnt have a bar like that you'd be able to do stuff like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMdG4iG9s4cit just doesn't tell you because tekken is by people who made you pay for frame data
>>575399663>the game limits how long you can combo forand that's a good thing
>extend the window to call assist instead of needing to push it at the exact moment you use a move>remove generic rush assist so combos dont devolve into looping one special into all three assists>lock characters place in your team so tagging only moves your point character to the empty slot and the other characters always move back to their original slot after they get taggedThat would fix my biggest problems with the tag system
>>575400872Thanks I can play after
>>575401381I also just want to be able to see what the fuck I'm doing when an assist happens. I'm so tired of all these fighting games turning into a fucking mess of bullshit and I lose what's happening.
>>575401381>remove generic rush assist so combos dont devolve into looping one special into all three assistsI'm okay with the rush assist existing, and I think it kind of has to because I feel like the combo system is designed around it, but some limits could stand to be put on it just to give you an actual reason to use the other assists in combos.
>>575393739Who are the most played?
what big tournament will this game debut at?
>>575401797It's going to be at CEO I think
>>575401776I think it's something like blade, magik, black panther, doom
>>575400880the gamesir g7 pro is cheaper and better
>>575401961Is CEO prizepools just based on entrants or is arcsys/sony putting up money for tournaments? I have no faith in sony actually supporting fucking anything that doesn't sell like crazy and if this game has no tournament scene the chances of it having a casual scene to keep the game alive past one year with sony controlling the purestrings is not good. I don't want to buy modern vaporware.
>>575402436Thanks for the reply. Why is it better, better dpad?
>>5754026071. better felling buttons overall2. you can swap the d-pad to a circular one, cross-circular hybrid, and a standard cross
Should I play this game on controller or fightstick?
SQ announced that the sauce has been found
>>575405815THE SAUCE HAS BEEN FOUNDEVERYONE RE-PREORDER NOW AND LETS MAKE SONY SOME MONEY!
>>575405815This game has no sauce.
I'm absolute dogshit at this game and pretty much don't have any understanding of it even after going through the tutorial. What's an easy character lineup that isn't confusing as fuck?
>>575407960Zero, Dante, Vergil
>>575407960Blade, Magik and Wolverine are the most retard-friendly from what I have observed.
I won't buy tokon, gameplay won't change. They got told it sucks a year ago but stuck to it
>>575409760>They got told it sucks a year ago but stuck to itNo no, they did change it and the gameplay did improveBut unfortunately not enough
he's right you know
>>575405815Sajam's take?
I rage quit the discord after getting tired of being told numpad notation.
>>575409976lol no he isn't
>>575409976Uh-huh... has kizzie read this yet? I'd like to get kizzie's take before I give my own say on the matter
I'm gonna give Magik a darkchylde alright
>>575409889The problem comes from the fact that they didn't polish their original ideas based on feedback. instead they hard pivoted into janky active tag slop so now we have a mess of half baked ideas where nothing feels good.
>>575396190They probably just wanted it to be stubby because he's supposed to get in close so they went with the stubbiest part of him.
Is the beta over?
>>575411602No there is still 4 hours left
>>575410729Most complains about Tokon apply to 2xko. Off the top of my head: anti cheat malware, who is this game for, fake tag, slow movement
can i stop gettin combo clips of them doing shit against a wall with all assists and full meter already what the fuck
Im having more fun with this game if I treat it like 1on1. I will learn the tag mechanics and other characters overtime. For now Im just playing my one character
>>575388347she's grown to be my favorite along with ghost rider, as far as im seeing it looks like ppl are starting to warm up to her despite that shitty avengers game. kinda hoping she ends up in marvel rivals somehow, shes really fun to play as :D
>>575412198Basically what I'm doing as wellSure I know I can get more damage, longer combos, and better pressure if I use the active tag switchBut right now I just want to chill with me and my main and have fun
>>575412198i am learning characters in stages. 1v1 no meter combos1v1 one meter combo(25)1v1 no meter on assist comboetc etcfeel like i have a better idea what i can do down the line after doing it this way so i dont have to sit here and optimize some crazy combo ill probably drop in a real match
What the, they put me in this game? What the hell
>>575388347She represents my state so no, Im having her on my team
>>575412198I started out trying to play everyone, then I started doing that, but the more I play the more I think you'll need to be using at least two characters for some mix up. If you're playing Wolverine or something you might be able to just go solo, but I think a decent bit of the cast is designed to be pretty bad at opening up the opponent on their own and they need a tag to help.
i can see why. why play these technical characters when you can just play braindead characters like blade or magick with a sword and do easy combos and sticky ass targeting.i like starlord but im already tryin to figure ghostrider out but its stressful tryin to get his fucking moves to stick due to tiny ass chain hitboxes
>>575412579I don't think Starlord is that technical, he was just very overrepresented in the last beta and the starter guide made him look boring, and I imagine most people playing the beta have at least seen the starter guide.
>>575412764he is like really good as an assist but takes a bit of micromanaging to get to that part with his elemental switching again people would rather play the nigger with a sword or the whore with a sword where they do a ton of damage way easily
this game gonna have a character trial/challenge mode you think?
What language you rocking? The characters are designed very Japanese, kinda like the idea of going all the way with the voices.
>>575412579Danger's problems feel twofold with the first being that she's technicalThe second being that she doesn't really get much in the way of advantage for that technicality As an example, her hover dash goes too high for instant overhead mixups against a crouching target, so you'll have to glide a ways before being able to hit themHowever, your opponent can just block high the whole time because they'll see you coming a mile away, so your only option is to try and sneak in a cheeky j.M right before touching if they think you're going for a lowOr they can just 2H and blow your shit up because you're spending forever in the air doing nothing
>>575412989There's a section on one of the menus that says something like character tutorial, I imagine they'll be in there.
>>575413090i hope so.i wasn't heavily into competitive mvc3/umvc3 outside locals and their challenge mode kept me entertained for hours on top of training mode
>>575413090wait there's individual character tutorials in this game?
i can see why all those 3 but whats wrong with ghostrider
I refunded to buy avatar twice lmao small indie game better optimized
>>575413082Danger feels to me more like you're meant to approach with her teleport to get in and try to open up the opponent than hoverdash in as I play her. You can be predictable with the teleport too, but it feels a lot more realistic to get in and get something done that way than with her hoverdash in my experience. It kind of begs the question of why she even has a hoverdash then, but I think her approach with it is so linear and she has good enough air control that you can at least bait out 2H's easy enough. I did dash>assist>air backdash as I got close a few times and it caught people out.
you guys talk about opening people up im having af uckin hard time moving around in the first place and have to mentally map where my hands are with button presses this whole time
Only character not in the demo I want to play is Carnage
>>575413082Danger is a character that was originally too good and instead of rebalancing her entire moveset they just decided to completely gut a couple of her good tools. There is zero reason for her to have a hoverdash that bad.
>>575413612magneto has a 8 way dash for no reason too
>>575413270If you go to the tutorial menu there's three options, one is 'Startup Battle', which I guess is the basic tutorial you do when starting the game, and the others are 'Battle Guide' and 'Character Lesson'. You can't select either but I assume Character Lesson will be trials.
>no random character selection>no random stage select
I literally don't know what to even do in an online match. I quite literally can't get a single hit in and every time I try to do a block it's like it does nothign and I get combo'd into a fucking cutscene. WHy the fuck can't I have any good defense in this fucking game?
>>575413763God damnit this beta fucking sucks and I never want to play any other arcsys game ever again. Worst fighting game I've ever played in my life.
>>575413372>Danger feels to me more like you're meant to approach with her teleport to get in and try to open up the opponentThat's what I've been leaning more towards myself as well and have had better results with Unfortunately it relies on two things, you being able to get your drones out in the first place, and your opponent remaining near them for you to take advantage of themNot the worst thing in the world mind you, but it's still a lot of conditionals that need to be met compared to the simplicity of what she should have access to in the form of glide dash > instant overhead >>575413612I hope they either go back and give her an IOH with her dash, or allow her teleport to be used while airborne It fucks me up how you have to be grounded to use it
so this game is basically just press light or hard attack 3 times and everything else is automatic
>>575413954https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ypg69--Svc
>>575414713This is exactly how I feel and this is funny because it's exactly what's happening right now.
Are you playing with a controller or a stick?
>>575414909Controller
>>575414909Stick player here
>>575414909Always stick. Once you go stick you just cant go back to pad
quick give me the starlord tech we only have a few hours left.
>>575414645some characters like storm get insane multi hit loop combos, then you play magneto and its basically that
>>575415876Just do whatever Cloud was doing at TNS
I had funI got to Silver 3 as my first tag fighter. I just did two Peni Parker BNBS. Might buy it if they fix the PC issue
They either need to buff Peni's items or they need to let her have multiple stocked up so she can rapidly throw a bunch out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfc6AIMEmHYIt's like he's playing a different game I swear. Guy is always ahead of the curve.
>>575416786I mostly played around in training mode and did some matches in the casual queueHaving half the members of my team be unavailable for the beta didn't really make me want to get too into thingsStill, I had fun
Caps VA is ear cancerBring him back
>>575396127One could say it was a GHOST writer
>>575417279why would I do that when I can just do the autocombo
guys check out my clip it includes max assists a full bar and broken scaling on my normals and i get 50k and it ends with token assemble its viable as fuck pretty dope huhalso its on xmen mansion
>>575417279>requires a corneryeah invalidated
Game's pretty fun. Almost tempted to buy it but that means having to give money to CuckStation and I hate them.Don't know how to construct my team, I just pick Peni leader with Kamala/Blade/Iron Man assists. Peni's great, and the game feels really good to play but I honestly think it would've been better if they just scrapped the team mechanic entirely and made it strictly 1v1.Hoping for Juggernaut and She-Hulk. I see Shulkie in the background of the NYC Night stage so she may be coming.
>>575387060Why not?
>>575417279sick stuff, I might main Iron Man when I get this game
>>575418017>Don't know how to construct my team, I just pick Peni leader with Kamala/Blade/Iron Man assists. Peni's great, and the game feels really good to play but I honestly think it would've been better if they just scrapped the team mechanic entirely and made it strictly 1vi dont mind the teams but active swapping and still sharing a life bar is really fuckin stupid since it can get away with just having assists only alone with set styles(anti air, forward and angle)
>>575418290That's the whole fucking point, you stupid retardThis is a game for the iPad generation
>>575418423>thats the whole pointwhats the whole point? a mish mash of different types of fighting games that makes no sense. its schizophrenic in design.
>>575418290Isn't that the point? It wants to be a 1v1 fighter "with team benefits" so you can swap out for another moveset while not interrupting the 1v1 game flow (you still have the same health)I do agree with you though, I think it's redundant, I'd rather have just a 1v1 game period. But I sort of understand the philosophy.
>>57541770350k is very little for that amount of resources
It should have been 2v2. Utilizing all four characters is impossible beyond just doing a corner loop of specials and assists and outside of that you are just spamming every single assist the moment they come off cooldown.
>>575417813lmfao everyone else out here using all meter, all assists, and Clayton just clowning on you fools solo. Typical Clayton W tho.
>>575419090you can easily do that bullshit with 25 meter without a corner
>>575419003No if you actually want a casual fuckign audience make it 1v1 you fucking retards. THE CASUAL TAG FIGHTER HAS NOT, AND WILL NOT EVER FUCKING WORK.
Yeah, very confused design, salvaged only by the fact that the game feels really good to play.Maybe they feel that the soul of Marvel fighters is an inescapable obligation to the tag team format.
>>575419132Clayton living rent free. I don't even see what the big deal is. We all know he's the best at what he does, no one even comes close. His videos always look like he is playing a different game at first and then people try to play catch up as the years go on. It happens every game without fail.
they need to buff ghostriders vengeance meter gain
>>575413701You can use that for movement. This game is not MvC and it's not trying to be MvC
no part really to do active tagging in the middle of combos since it all is structured the same way anyway and its not like theres much to work around gameplan wise since, you know, everyone plays the fuckin same anyway.unless you want to do some cooky set play dirty nonsense nigger crossup of course.im sure thats how its going to end up being down the line and no one will have the mental energy to deal with this and then the game will die.
Casuals are fucking pussyRage quitting in Silver; we both trash casuals. Embrassing
You should be able to combo off of heavy command grabs. Maybe not Storm's since she gets the slide shit.
>>575419204I didn't think it felt good to play at all and I'm tired of arcsys games always having awful defense
>>575386507cutethe japs might be abysmal live service devs but leave it to them to salvage horrid capeshit designs
everything feels sticky and unresponsive.
>>575422318Arcsys will never be CapgodsLet it go
>>575387795Are you new to FGs?When I first picked up DBFZ, I had the hardest time pulling off the most basic of combos.https://youtu.be/dul6pMdQfpcThis one. The most ABC one two three buckle my shoe combo. I even had previous FG experience and was already a decent player in the other games I had played. And honestly, looking back, at first it looked insurmountable and made me feel legitimately retarded that I couldn't pull off. But then I started getting it right. Maybe once every ten tries. Then once every 5 attempts. Then I did not drop it anymore. What looked impossible became second nature with just a bit of practice. Some training mode every now and then, trying to pull it off during matches.I don't play Tokon, but looking at your replay, it looks like you're mashing too much and too fast. The inputs aren't as tight as you imagine, so take your time and try timing them instead. It's not intuitive, but it'll actually be easier. You're failing the air string because you're mashing jL and two jLs are coming out instead of jM. Funnily enough this is a problem I ran into in DBFZ too, it's just natural as light buttons have low hitstun so you feel like you need to mash them. The last bit of advice I have to offer is to take things slowly and do one thing at a time. If a combo is split in 3 parts, get the first part down then proceed to the second instead of trying to do all at once.Don't give up. Believe in victory and shine on, you crazy spiderpedo.
>>575392087the saucenao on this pic is crazy
It's kind of difficult in my opinion, but Danger is able to combo into her U, which is nice because you can't cancel into it from anything so I thought you might not be able to. You can definitely do more with it than this too.
>>575423547who the fuck is the gecko king
>>575422318move on tokon can't be saved
>>575422318sorry I came over everything while playing magik
people are talking up ms marvel anti air assist but ghost riders is literally the exact same move but better in every single way except it pushes them back a bit further on block, which is a strength depending on the situationyes this is what I spent the last hour of the beta testing, what of it
>>575424242There's another hour though.
>>575424182that's disgusting anon
>>575419584unlike similar characters he can stay in the red zone extremely easily because his stand/jump U dump the meter on whiff, are generally fast and great pokes, and can cancel back into specials on hit/block (and you can also just superjump away, hit U and still have air actions) so if he could also build up to red stupid fast he would essentially not have a meter and just kind of have free ex movesfeel like his grab should be stronger but I guess a character like this having a fast command grab that puts you fullscreen again is already asking a lot when he also has fucked up high/low rekkas
>>575424353Can't be helped. Arcsys' Magik is the result of the expertise they acquired from all the white blonde women they crafted in Granblue. Truly a work of art.
>>575401776Blade and Magik.
>>575412579this was already posted.>>575393739
>>575419204I wish we had Thor and She-Hulk on the Avengers team instead of Shuri and Hulk.
>>575424242I felt like a lot of my assists never triggered half the time and it made them feel useless. Side tangent but I wish I could find a fighting game I could play long term that actually feels casual and not a burden to play at times where I feel genuinely mentally unwell when playing.
>>575425110try Brawlhalla
Spiderfaggot is fucking broken, why is his web a fucking beam that leads into a combo from the other side of the fucking screenSpiderman is such a fucking stupid superhero, so fucking overrated
>>575424647Too bad she's stuck in a dogshit game like Tokon. What a waste. You only get to play her maybe 25% of the time if you're playing the game optimally and with the intent to win. Fucking shit ass game made by actual retards with no taste or brain.
>>575426410>You only get to play her maybe 25% of the time if you're playing the game optimally and with the intent to win.You're not supposed to be constantly switching between the 4 characters what the fuck
>>575426568Yes you are because the game is literally designed in a way that it forces you to if you want to actually play competitively.
>>575426971Did you watch any of the tournaments we had this weekend? Even the top players were at most switching between 2 main characters while the others were used for assists. There is literally no point in cycling between all characters.
>game is going down in literally 10 minutes>instead of playing until it does he's just another groid that one and dones
>>575427260no bitch, you are wrong, you can literally tag characters as they're coming in and doing their assist to keep pressuring the other player in their face even when your previous character was on the other side of the screen, they also extend your combos without burning the limit as much, AND allow you to chain supers
>>575424242ghost rider is secretly fucked up, his 100 meter super is a command grab at range that you can't jump after the super flash
>team order is incredibly important because assists are based on the order>if you try to use more than 2 characters your assists end up being scrambledWhy the fuck aren't they hard locked to their position with your 1st character replacing the slot for whoever is active? If you go from first character to second character to third character. then the second character should go back to the right slot and the first character should move to the third slot.
>>575386507Why's Danger such a freak?
Is the beta down now?
>>575390760i cant find it but i swear there was some video where mike ross literally saif you should piano all your inputs
>>575391101>Magik is your Ken, your Nago, your Hworwhatever. Free wins.Bro Magik is not that good. Magik is just Blade without any of the good parts.
>>575428218Why should they even move at all?
>>575428527It's not about the character being goodIt's about the character being dumb easy for high damage
>>575428218Because this game was made by retards Anon. That's all there is to it. There's so many aspects of this game that are indicative of this being the case, including it being a 4v4 team fighter and being basically Great Value MvC without any of the good parts.
>>575428240X-men character (inherently freaky) created by Joss Whedon (actual freak) in the 2000s (edgy and freaky era)
>>575428634All of the characters in this play the same and do basically the same damage man. They all have basically the same combos too. Assists are all very samey. There's almost nothing unique about characters other than what the Unique (lol, very appropriately named) button does
>>575428680>Great Value MvC without any of the good parts.like being a dead franchise? lol
>>575428865If a new MvC was released and wasn't dogshit like Infinite it would sell like hotcakes and by the most hyped game at EVO and other majors
>>575428990pretty sure pookon is just a marketing scheme to build hype for mvc4 anyway. with an impostor on the throne, people will yearn for the return of the true king
>>575428768The forward and up assists are very samey because they are meant to do roughly the same thing (shoot a thing foward or uppercut), but the back assists are all unique across the board. Combos are only samey if you do the shittiest auto combo type combos.
>>575428990marvelfags are fucking delusional
>>575428768>All of the characters in this play the sameNo anon. Not all characters are just swinging a giant sword
>>575428990>wasn't dogshit like InfiniteKinda a big ask from modern Capcom
>>575428990>If a new MvC was released and wasn't dogshit like Infiniteconsidering the way Capcom have doubled down on all the things i hated about Infinite with SF6 (ugly graphics, bad soundtrack, shit universal mechanics, bad roster, predatory MTX) that's quite the hurdle to overcome. i don't see it happening.
>>575428990The game would have half of the hype 2XKO had and it would die just as quickly. Casuals would get hyped ebcause of nostalgia and then quit the game because it's too fast and they can't deal with constant mixups all while tagslopers would be telling them to get gud and then wonder why nobody likes their genre.
Capcom will never work with Disney againMvC4 will never happen.
Is the open beta over? If not when does it end?
>>575386507The lack of art of her in R34 is disappointing
Threesome with Danger and Alisa? How much grease would be consumed?
>>575429081They are all samey. There's literally no depth or complexity to this game. There's nothing like Dante's bold cancels. Nothing like Vergil being able to juggle loops with the summoned swords or weird stylish shit with sword formations. There's no weird crazy fly cancel fireball tech like with Morrigan, no cool stylished fly canceling eight-way airdash loops like with MvC Magneto, no stylish TAC infinites, there's fucking NOTHING in this game. It's all heavily locked down and sanitized.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLUArG51yGshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy-vYeMtd0U
Who has the crack version?
Damn, it seems you guys were cursed with the MvC retards. Good luck, you will need it, those guys are the genwunners of Fighting Games, except that Gen 1 was actually good. The MvC breed of Capcom zealot is even worse than the Shit Farter kind.Remember that capcom doesn't have fans, they have cultists
>official surveyhttps://playstationresearch.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0qtfOutDE2P95iedon't miss this opportunity to request your favorite heroes!
>>575430297>nooooooo let me consume slop until it's time to get excited for the next slop
>>575430297Every Tokon hater is just a disgruntled marvel player and every critique is just>why isn't this aspect of the game just like marvel?If they want so much to play a game with a daily peak of 200 players they should just boot umvc3
>>575430186It's a Mickey Mouse fighting gam for the Mickey Mouse generation
>>575430297this whole weekend has taught me a valuable lesson about how fucking annoying MvC fans are.
Danger feels the most wrong out of all the characters>hoverdash that leads to nothing if she doesnt start from half screen to let her adjust the height to not whiff>heavy laser doesn't combo into the missiles>dash special that puts herself in the corner>balls are awkwardly placed for using them with the projectiles
>>575430471>slop but enough about Marvel vs CapcomRemember when you retards basedfaced the fuck out when they announced umvc at mainstage Evo and shilled the fuck out of it then it was unwatchable sludge?I remember
>>575429662owari da
>>575430672I think the ball positions are fine, but the rest I agree with
im an oldfag marvel playeri think tokon is pretty enjoyable for what it is. yes i think movement and assist calling could feel better.but it seems like it has a ton of depth to it and a lot to explore. im excited for the full release. however, the pc version was so fucking dogshit i don't even know if i want to buy it day 1. it was near unplayable for me.
>>575430672>dash special that puts herself in the cornerYou have control over that, it sideswaps if you hold 6 after doing it. I also don't mind the placement of her satellites, I don't think they're very hard to hit, but they're also well placed for her teleport. The only thing that really feels odd to me about her is her hoverdash, but that's a pretty core part of the character so she fundamentally feels a bit off because of it. I still had fun with her though.
>>575430884what was Sony thinking bruh they burned through so much goodwill they were already short of, for no reasonand I don't want to sound like a bootlicker but I really hope this shit doesn't fall into arcsøy because it's 100% on sony
>>575431172It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last Sony does this shit. Higher ups literally do not care about anything except how they can fake up metrics to make their management looks good to the even higher ups
>>575431172Sony has no competition and Xbox will never recover so they're just going to keep doing whatever they want forever
kamalabros our girl is washed
>>575432979>Danger at the bottomBuffs incoming
>>575432979Danger and Peni are the only characters that actually feel like bad characters.
>>575432979I expected Peni to be popular.
>>575434969she's too much of a specialist character for the kind of person that's going to grind rank over a weekend beta to fuck withstarlord being that low seems pretty outrageous though, are people just actively not picking him because they wanted to try newer characters or what
>>575430186pre release mvc3 dante gameplay consisted of lmhs mmh divekick s mmh s otg super -> xfactor -> super. most people didn't even do bold cancel shit until evo because in vanillia dante's hitboxes and hitstun weren't deliberately made comically horrible to require you to do them, stop larping.game has a character with a 1-1 copy of rachels drive and there's cool shit like star lord being able to double super in multiple ways and blade doing wacky sideswap combos at the top of the screen with boomerang and teleports
let me know when they crack the beta
>>575432979>magikhot slut but don't want to play>bladepretty cool but don't want to play>magnetomy nigga, might play but unsure since he's a zoner>spider-mankinda feminine in this game with his poses, don't want to play>black pantherhot nubian princess with a big booty, might play but probably not>doommy nigga, almost certainly will play since hes the coolest marvel character of them all>iron manseems good, might play, his face under the mask looks pretty goofy though>ghost riderpretty cool, might play>storm#1 nubian princess and seems to have a lot of cool shit, might play>wolverinewill play if i decide to go for the unga bunga team>green goblinwanted to play before the beta but something about him felt off, probably wont play>star-lordseems to have some cool shit but i dont think hes for me, i like the character though, might play>peni parkerlol>captain americasame as star-lord pretty much>ms marvellol>dangernot sure what to think of her, but her ugly idle stance makes me not want to play her>picrelmy nigga, will play when he releases
>>575435435Peni's problem is they cant commit to her being a gimmick character. Her items aren't super strong and she cant spam it like Faust can. But then the rest of her moveset is mediocre because they expect the item toss to be a huge deal.
>>575433275sex
>>575430703>then it was unwatchable sludge?I play videogames faggot, only losers like yourself watch them cuck
>>575412579danger was such a wack pick, even if they kawaii-fied her she still looks ugly and plays like a weird zoner whose kit doesn't fully work.
>>575431447Xbox won't recover but that doesn't mean Playstation will continue. AI bubble causing hardware shortages means any future PS6 will be exorbitantly priced, lack of physical will drive away devs and the lack of any good exclusives will drive away consumers because it no longer has any real advantage over PCs.Nintendo was on the top of the world with the Wii, but that didn't mean shit when their next console release was shit.Xbox had an extremely strong position with 360 and they torched all of that with the Kinect-always-online-spyware shit.
I wanna play this because Magik but man 4 characters is so many to learn for a game I wanna play casually.
>>575449130All you gotta know is like 2 really. I just used Wolverine and magneto for active tag combos and shit
>>575432979Magikbros eating so good
>>575449130You can play with a single character. Even the assists, 2 of them are generic (every character in does a fireball in the first slot and an anti air in the second slot).
very peaceful
Alright, done with the beta.Everyone is comparing this game to Marvel vs Capcom. Without comparing it too much and just focusing on it being a Tag Game, Tokon is without a doubt the most Dollar Store Tag Game to have ever grace the earth. It is the most bare minimum Tag Game I have ever played with so many restrictions that they might as well turn it into a 1v1 game.Marvel vs has the highest freedomBBTAG has really good freedomTatsunoko vs has really good freedomEven games like Nitroplus, Million Arthur, Blade Arcus, and Dengeki Fighting Climax which aren't Tag games have more freedom with assist calls than TokonSo, like, the only game that I can truly compare Tokon to is Street Fighter x Tekken which also has bare minimum tagging but is also a SF-coded game, AND EVEN THAT SHIT HAS MORE FREEDOM THAN TOKON while being bare minimum. It's strange as hell man. Like, you can really feel the restrictions. That's not how a Tag game is suppose to feel. The entire design philosophy of a Tag game is freedom and high apm being the main selling point. It's as if Arcsys wanted to make a 1v1 game this entire time. Or maybe their just stagnant as fuck when it comes to designing a fighting game because they are now the most popular fighting game company.
>>575447718I wonder if we could imagine a world where Nintendo is the only console developer.I could see them leaning hard into gimmick hardware like they did in the Wii days to differentiate themselves from PCs and phones and they could probably coast for at least another few decades just on the goodwill of millennials who grew up with them in the 90s/00s.
I figured it out.Marvel vs Capcom is every version of Mountain Dew all poured into the same glass with all its sugary heart attack ingredients intact and then force fed to a player.Tokon/2XKO/InvincibleVs is Diet Mountain Dew+Water And until all these Tag slop devs realize this and start adding spme fucking sugary Mountain Dew into their games they will never be as good as the MvC seriesDone. I solved the problem. The biggest trvthnvke about tag games ever. You can't prove me wrong. It's literally impossible to debate this.
>>575452285>That's not how a Tag game is suppose to feelAccording to who?>The entire design philosophy of a Tag game is freedom and high apm being the main selling pointAccording to who?They made a tag game before this that wasn't very free or high apm and that was extremely successful and well-liked.
>>575453606>seething shitposters love slopYes it all makes sense now.
>>575452320Console having a gimmick at least makes it worth having together with a PC, assuming the gimmick is any good. But even then, we are now at a point where even gimmick hardware can be pretty easily co-opted by PCs, as we saw with the Steamdeck. I think consoles will eventually go the way of the dodo, just like movie theaters, as they have lost their usecase, but only time will tell how many decades they can still coast on momentum alone.
>>575453920People have been desensitized to Arcsys style now. At the time when DBFZ came out their style was a new dopamine for a lot of people. Today people no longer compliment Arcsys graphics style in an overly exaggerated manner because there are multiple games using their style. Again, we've been desensitized. So, now that everyone can see past the smoke and mirrors everyone is starting to notice the repetition in their design philosophy that has basically become the fighting game equivalent of the arena battle slop like the Bleach, One Piece, DragonBall, and Naruto games. They have been using the same Blueprint for all their games with minor changes here and there. And if you don't understand what I mean you can do a confirmation bias check yourself.DNF Duel and Granblue uses the same blueprintDBFZ and Tokon uses the same blueprint For example, Tokon has the same auto tracking DBFZ has with its air auto combos. In the older betas Tokon let you whiff auto attacks just like DBFZ. DNF Duel and Granblue has the same exact 1:1 Dodge mechanic. They also have the whole more damage for executing manual inputs. Granblue would remove this later but you get my point. Arcsys is designing fighting games the same way Bandai Namco designs their Arena slop and people are finally noticing it.
>>575452285>Street Fighter x TekkenI know I'm old, but man I at least had fun when I first played Street Fighter x Tekken. I don't think I had any real fun in 10 hours of Tokon this weekend. No hate either, it just didn't click at all for me. I might actually go to my locals this week to see what people there are thinking. It's pretty much only SF6 but at least the oldhead that runs it loves playing old shit like 3rd strike or MvC2 with me.
>>575452320It's crazy how quickly the Switch gimmick of being a console+handheld died with Steamdecks and their knockoffs. Nintendo is all about exclusive games. It's really no wonder they are going the remake route with shit like Ocarina to try to recapture some people with nostalgia bate.
So what do >we think?Buy or skip?If skip, what would you like to see improved?
you were not able to see your square color in the beta right?why did they make it like that?
>>575456245The game is gold. Nothing will be "improved" for at least 2 years. If the game can even last that long. The real question is how much staying power do we think the game currently has in its state. Imo not much.
>>575456245i skip until a discount, a pretty big one like at least 40%my main gripes are with pc version performance and netcode suffering because of itand i got a beef pc mind you, 3090 and 9950x3d, but because its so strong when i fight laggy people i get one sided lag, it fucking blows cocks
So what are the complaints for this game? Yeah the PC port has some issues and the input lag is a little annoying but it's pretty fun. Plays a little like 2xko for my liking but whatever.
>>575456475If the technical issues were fixed would you buy it full price?
>>575449509>>575450040I like Magik and Doom enough to spend the time (like 95% of the playerbase as it seems), but I thought synergies and shit were important.
>not super interested in the game >Play beta >See Shuri in action >See Magik in action I'm in love already. Game is super mash friendly though which kinda irks me. Does the cross counter work against beam spam? I went up against a doom who was spamming his shit and couldn't get in. Didn't think to try it
>>575456729they're really not, most you'd do is pick a powerful support for the other 2 options. game is kinda designed to be easy to learn anyway.
>>575456245skipsony is gonna pull support after year 2 DLC with how bad the launch is going to be. if you want to give it a shot wait for the 30% sale during fall or 50% xmas one.
>>575456245Wait for sale.>no Thor>game is $90+ in Canadian shitcoin plus will have $200 of DLC passesI liked the beta a lot but I wanna play my MVC3 team of Hulk, Doom, Thor plus Wolverine and I also don't wanna give Sony a bunch of money for their shittery. It's not a mandatory must buy for me there are other fighting games I'm enjoying right now and don't mind waiting until I can get some version of it on sale around $50 with Thor in it whenever he gets added. I'll accept Beta Ray Bill as a substitute if they wanna take that route. I think the Phoenix Cyclops might be a cosmic team.
>>575456613i would, but they wont be fixed lets be real
>>575456791iirc I saw crossovers make you fly and knock them down across the screen but I'm not sure what that was.zoning is really powerful though and one of the reasons is assist spam which I hope they tone down
Why didn't they include Rocket in the game bros? He is coming in the first DLC, right?
>>575456936>wait for the 30% sale during fall or 50% xmas one.>he thinks this will happenSony isnt reducing the price for shit
>>575457103yeah I dont think they willpeople are coping with EAC being there for the beta to prevent leaks but its cope
>>575457225I kinda hate that catching an assist doesn't really do much unless you catch the point character too. If you try to do too much and get hit the dmg just recovers and you're now prolly going to get 1-2 touched. single health bar for a tag game is retarded
>>575457329>Its just a beta>when it releases in a weekPeople are dumb as fuck
>>575457552>Its just a betaI hate total faith in sony and arcsysthey've never let me down before
>>575457329>>575457552its just cope or a massive case of dicksucking
>>575457312na, they will do groot with rocket on his shoulder as one character in this game so they don't have to have someone even smaller than wolverine on screen. that manlet will be the smallest character you see.
Why do people "give the game a try" when you know you're not going to like it and nothing other than like 4 of your friends screaming excitement for Tokon is going to change your mind because friend experience and memories > game
>>575457346Not true. The Spoderman games go on decent sales, but never quite 50%. God Of War I'm pretty sure I got for like $20 or less or something a couple years ago.It'll take a couple years, but it'll get there. Fighting games hit the steam bargain bin pretty fast. Only Capcom is able to keep them high price. DBFZ goes on sale for like $10.
>>575457450>The best feature of the game is retardedIf you had to learn 4 different characters and then play your last character without assists against an opponent who can spam 3 different assists with barely any cooldowns, the game would be dead in the water.Notice how unlike other tag kusoges, it doesn't have retardedly powerful comeback mechanics? That too is entirely because of the shared health bar.
>>575457886>It'll take a couple yearsthis game won't be running in a couple of years lol. it has 2 years max before sony pulls all funding and psn support, then online just dies. it's another concord.
>>575457886Bro, you are talking about pre-no physical Sony. I'm talking about post-no physical Sony. Their strategy is to have full control over pricing.you are not getting discounted Tokon bro. Maybe like 20% but 50%? Hell no lmao
>>575457940>Notice how unlike other tag kusoges, it doesn't have retardedly powerful comeback mechanics? That too is entirely because of the shared health bar.to me it's a blessing no one has a reversal outside of the system mechanics and 100 meter supers, holy fuck it's so annoying. and the comeback mechanics being very tame
>>575457940>the game would be dead in the waterbro the game IS dead in the water already with how badly received the demo wasit's gonna have to go through a major redemption arc if it wants to have a place.
>>575458272I thought 50 meter supers were also invincible? And doesn't Cap have meterless reversal?
>>575458306>bro the game IS dead in the water already with how badly received the demo was90% of the complaints were the PC port and not the gameplay>but the pros-no one cares about them. they want the most anti-casual game in existence
>>575458432no and no
>>575458434>90% of the complaints were the PC port and not the gameplayna there are tons of people talking about how the game just doesn't click for them and they had no fun. the only people who enjoyed it are casuals, and we know how awesome games are when it's nothing but casuals buying it (mortal kombat)
>>575458669>tons of peopleagain, LARPers like SonicFox and autists who unironically think MvC was not kusogemost people gameplay related complaints is the assist spam and the input reader being dogshitshit like "le speed, le mixups, le limitations" are complaints from the mentally ill
>you're mentality I'll for wanting to schmixAnons come up with new shit everyday haha
>>575458845>complaints from the mentally illlol damn those mentally ill guys really touched a nerve eh? you're want of those faggot capeslop lovers. >NOOOO ITS MAHVEL IT IS TOP TIER not enjoying the game is a subjective opinion, and lots of people just don't like it. deal with it faggot
>>575459072>you're mentality I'll for wanting to schmixcorrect
>>575458197Screencapping this post to laugh at you in five years when I get Tokon and all DLC for $40.
>>575459076they're a minority, not "lots of people"they're not listening to these retards
I mean, even Strive has reactable left-right options
>>575459593and everyone is getting caught by them anywayI don't understand this passion the ef hee cee has for the most retarded dogshit gameplay in existenceas someone called them out for, they just want to run their gameplan without thinking and opening you up for it instead of interacting with your opponent lol
>>575459356Brave of you to assume that all the DLC will be out in five years.
>>575459435>they're not listening to these retardsMan, I really wish that was true, but considering the changes they've made to the game, it really does feel like they listened to the retards after the first beta. The biggest one is of course the ability use grounded assists while jumping. The game clearly wanted to discourage that particular degenerate play pattern present in other tag games. Now that they've caved in and allowed it, it's pretty clear the game isn't designed for it, leading to the primary play pattern of spamming assists while being safe in the air.
>>575459990yeah it suckswe'll see if they change anything before release but I doubt it
>>575459716Currently, your opening options is assist spam neutral or assist spam blockstun until they guess wrong on an overhead.I don't know what interactions you're hoping for because right now, this is the current state.
If your assist gets hit, they should fuck off from the screen and go on an extended cooldown.
I must be the only person here who thought MvC games were 90s baby mode slop. I also thought DOA games were gooner slop and never got into them. Not to mention I never liked the entire concept of mashing defensive counters during my combos
>>575460317yeah this is a good way to fix itto be fair, happy birthdays in this game are insane, a 40k combo becomes 60k+ easily, but the issue is in neutral
Feels like spiderman, blade, magik, black panther are going to get more oppressive on launch as people lab more. Magik isn't crazy in particular but her big fuck you buttons beats like 90 percent of the stubby cast
>>575460371>>575460371MVC is slop, but nostalgia slop which is the sloppiest toppy of all. They were basically party games that were never meant to be taken seriously but then were. Maybe that's something newer titles are actually missing getting too clean and not broken.
>>575460317I hate that assists are so safe. People are just jumping high and calling everything it's real fucking cringe
>>575460371I thought MvC3 was 2000s, no?I never encountered it back then, only fighter here was Tekken. But everything I've seen of the game in modern day has left me puzzled, it seems to mostly be a game where you ToD someone and then they have to deal with an incredibly hard mix-up as their second character enters and if they fail you ToD them again. I get that it can be fun for a very niche audience like one of those HnK games, but I just don't understand the absurd glazing it gets as some kind of masterpiece.Also it completely fucked hitbox hardware for 2 decades because of their incompetence, so there's that too.
Doom's spinny shield thing needs to be more durable. It folds to a light breeze. It's only really useful as a combo tool rather than anti-zoning and space control.
here's your seven seasons of DLC. i tried to do teams.>Cosmic Avengers>Mighty Defenders>New Mutants>Sinister Six>Champions>Fantastic Four>Thunderbolts
>>575460371>Not to mention I never liked the entire concept of mashing defensive counters during my combosbasically right now you can get stringed for 50 minutes because of the 3 assists, the only way to avoid that is the crossover which the opponent can just spam on every hit and counter you completelycrossover can also be spammed like crazy because the assist gauge is almost infinitemake crossover uncounterable (instead the disassemble mechanic could be a punish for using all your assist pips) so that you're not stuck in offense 24/7 and make the gauge fill slower. this also fixes spamming all the other assemble mechanics which is a plagueassists in neutral can be free but as anon said, if you hit them they go on a longer cooldown
>>575460897I don't think they will do teams, it doesn't give enough variety for the pass. If for example they did an entire year of Fantastic Four, anyone who doesn't care about FF would just skip the pass. Whereas if you have wider variety of chars, you get more consistent income during the year. It also allows you to split FF into multiple years so that people who like FF will give you money for several years rather than just buying the one pass.
if this game didn't have the marvel IP and was instead like a totally new game with new characters it wouldn't even make it to the bathrooms of the NA tournament scene. that's why I know it's not gonna survive. remove the marvel IP and the game just falls apart.
>>575461284i would certainly prefer they not do teams. that would've made my list a lot easier to assemble. lol
>>575462001That’s basically every single fighting game.Imagine if SF6 was a brand new IP with new characters.
>>575462085>That’s basically every single fighting gamena there are too many capcom faggots that will eat up anything they give them and go "capgod"arcsys doesn't have that cred
>>575462001anon, this game could be the best fighting game of all time with new and original character and it wouldn't do well. IPs are the only way to sell fighting games nowadays, thats just how it is.
>>575461284I mean the teams in the base game have very little logic as is. Blade, Deadpool, Loki and Ghostrider is hardly a classic team up.
What's exciting about the MvC series is the high apm, appreciation of high execution from the player, and the fast pace reactions. Its was the closest thing to DragonBall or an intense action movie battle. Majority of people that dislike the MvC series usually lack one of those skillsets required to play the game. You had to learn 3 characters in that environment too meaning you gotta labmonster that shit on a daily basis if you want to keep up with everyone else.Also back then playing fighting games was just nerds who were surrounded by nerds who all enjoyed the same hobby. Now its a bunch of normalfags invading the space they know nothing about and pissing on nerds hobbies
>>575462150Removing the developer name is also part of removing the IP/branding. The exact same game made by a no name developer with no name characters
>>575462001Honestly I would wager that a brand new fighting game IP from ArcSys with ArcSys graphics would actually perform fairly well for a fighter, as long as the character designs were at least decent.
>>575462259>high apmabsolute dogshit artificial difficulty, see RTS games>fast pace reactionsagain artificial dogshit difficultyall you want is to random spam shit and get rewarded for it. how about being strategical about the buttons you press?no wonder this genre is dead if this is what people likes. or better, why MvC is dead and no one bothers with making a clone and when they do it instantly dies
>>575462646Interesting post anon.
Remember when people were hype that MvC3 was returning to EVO main stage and then the entire top 8 was just Zero May Cry mirrors doing the same ToD combo to each other? Good times.
>>575463150https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj5STPHDnJQ
who cares what chris g and sonicfox thinks
>>575463150>EVO main stagesweaty tournament has sweaty players who would of thoughtwhen the top tier is that top tier people are going to play it
>>575463410apparently a lot of people who are using them as a reason to buy the game on here. they hate it so it HAS to be good.
>>575463420Notice how there are other fighting games don't devolve into identical mirror match-ups doing the exact same thing over and over again? It's almost as if a well-designed game can have variance and multiple successful strategies even at the sweatiest level, fancy that.
>>575463323Only like 10% of the total number of people that have ever touched a fighting game in the history of fighting games can consistently pulled this off in a match. The 90% dont have the execution to consistently do this shit. Same for games like Blazblue and AC+R/Rev2. Combos are hard. Then adding setups on top of that... we all getting filtered
>>575463835>Only like 10% of the total number of people that have ever touched a fighting game in the history of fighting games can consistently pulled this off in a match.Thanks for proving that it's just 10% of people complaining and that they shouldn't listen to them
>>575463835The thing to understand about that is that even if you aren't capable of playing the game at the highest level, what the highest level looks like is still very important. Most people have this idea at the back of their head that it sure would be nice to be good at this thing I'm doing. If you see that being good at this particular game means playing one specific character and doing one specific thing over and over again, it can easily kill the motivation for playing that game even if you yourself would never be good enough to do it anyway nor face anyone good enough to do it. One of the driving factors that make people stick with fighting games is the thought of getting better at them. If the final plateau at the end of the road looks like dogshit, why bother?If it was mathematically proven that White is guaranteed to win in chess when played optimally, a lot of people would quit playing chess despite the fact that they themselves aren't able to play optimally enough to guarantee a win.
>>575464541TRVKE>get good at the game to... get infinite'd x3wow cool game
>>575464541>the plateau of this game is playing it as if it was bbtagowari da.....
>>575386507Needs Gambit DLC for the sake of popping her robot cherry.
>>575465161Gambit is for Rogue only. That robot hussy needs to watch itself.
reminder that for these people "sauce" means being able to force coinflips until you win
>>575466313>sauce is opening up the opponent for freelol
>>575465161>>575465328>Implying that years of not being able to touch someone hasn't given Rogue a voyeur/cuck fetish and that she doesn't enjoy watching Gambit fuck young girls and give them a memorable first time
Some troons are alright
>>575460897>mileskys
>>575466313Once people start getting really cringe with the mix/sauce the casuals will speedrun quitting. It's like people forgot this is the same company that made fighterz
>>575466474Even as a kid, it always bothered me that in the 90s cartoon she just didn't use one of those collars that nullified your mutant powers. I guess those didn't exist in the comic books.
>>575464541This argument doesn't make sense when talking about MvC because those games have so much combat and mechanical depth that is never one type of way to play them unless you just generalized them as "1tod games" which can be done for any and every fighting game if you wanna sound like a retard. Strive is the COUNTER! 4 hit into wallbreak gameBlazblue and old GG is the setplay in the corner gameSf4 is the fadc into ultra gameSf5 is the I popped vtrigger and won gameSf6 is the throwloop gameGranblue is the 66P gameThats just one aspect of those games and if it was that easy then top 8s wouldnt be the same motherfuckers every year. Games like MvC, Blazblue, old GG, UNI2, these game filter people at the front door. They all ask you to spend 1000 hours in training mode learning everything with your character and theb another 1000 hours learning matches. And if you ever switch to a different character guess what... well since you have an understanding of the game you only have to do... 500 hours lmao
>>575465328Don't be jealous, Chère; there's plenty of Remy to go around.>>575466474What that have been better than her taking old magnetic dick due to being one of the few that can touch her?
>>575466313Why do they all use negroid slang
>>575467174DBFZ aggressively patched degenerate looping mix out of the game. Launch Android 16 got dumpstered, sending a clear message they didn't want the game to be like that. I wonder which direction Tokon patches take.
Champion playable video. https://streamable.com/37ih1h was hoping he was more azrael like I wonder if he can transform when bar fills up
>>575467489fgc is black codedeven jwong was saying my niggas back in the day
>>575467545holy he's BIG
>>575467545>Wasting resources to making a shitty OC when you have a massive catalog of extremely popular characters people are clamoring forNever change ArcSys.
>>575467545No retarded bald head over main, but at least he bulks up and looks less like Rugal or Azrael.
>>575467498android 16 wasn't even the more egregious thing about s1 dbfz
>>575467545I wasn't feeling it at first but Cap Americas theme is growing on me
>>575467293Strive EVO top 8 don't have everyone playing the same character. Neither does any of those other games as far as I know. None of them are as "solved" as MvC3 is at the top level.
>>575467545>>575467713I was about to say there is no way they pulled some marvel character so obscure even I don't know who it is
>>575467713>He thinks Champion is an OCDumb secondary.
>>575467545This is not what he looks like in the story clipsIs that his phase 2 form?
>>575467925I think he was. Every combo ending in a true meterless 25-25-25-25 mix that looped into itself is one of the most degenerate things I've seen in a modern fighter. What would you say was worse?
>>575468028He's not even that obscure. If you're a fan of The Thing you know who he is.
>>575467974MvC games are never solved. There's new tech for MvC2 and MvC3 still being found. There's even dev shit like we just learn what Seth Killian was talking about when he said they had to nerf certain characters in umvc3 after like 15 years lol
>>575468028He and the Promoter are deep cuts but are used whenever there is an excuse to make a tournament arc in the Marvel universe
>>575468218>>575468078damn I was wrong W arcsys then
Champion's moveset kinda looks like the Hulk.
>>575468131Alright I will admit I did forget about that
>>575468254That's nice. Are they discovering tech that makes it so people don't all play the same team with the same gameplan at the highest level?
>>575468665People play what they like, that has nothing to do with the game being solved dumbass
>>575468078>>575467867Wait have they actually confirmed the Champion is Tryco? Because if so, that's actually pretty cool and I retract my earlier statement of criticizing them for making an OC.
Was the beta ps5 only or did I miss it on PC?
>>575468957His name is Champion, and he has a promoter, so yes, it's him.
>>575468665point on the doll where zero lightning looped you faggot
>>575468957>>575469829Also has the same hair and skin so, who else could it be.
>>575467545damn, didn't expect him to be a big bodyalso whose the assist on the far left?
>>575460897Cables not going to be in this, they’re going to go with Nate Grey
>>575464541absolutely no one wants to tune in to the biggest fg tournament of the year and have THIS be the gameplay
>>575467713>>575468957even if it were OC, you'd be retarded seeing as the other ASW OCs are Versusia and A21
>>575472816oh, I guess Danger is half OC
>>575471597defense tokon can only dream of
>>575473345keep telling yourself that lmao
>>575469649it was on pc along with a ton of sony malware
>>575473008The only thing OC about Danger is she doesn't start out evil or is a slave from Professor X. The 97 cartoon also removed the lore that made Charles Irredeemable while keeping her evil because she wanted the X-Men to prepare for the worst to come.
>>575467713He's not OC, that character is old as fuck timmy
>>575478085>that character is old as fuck timmy>such a deep cut>only real marvel fans understand this will totally bring in all the capeslop fags to support this trash game
>>575478256I'm sure that's the issue with the game and not the game being playable only on NASA PCs (with the correct configuration)
>>575478256You sound upset, Tim. If the game is so trash why are you even here?
>>575477116ok, now compare your pic to >>575386507 and try to spot any differences
>>575478256No one said shit back when Blackheart and Shuma-Gorath was in MvC.
>>575478572to laugh at you fags glazing it and piss you off cause 2kx0 (also a trash game) will still have larger tournaments and more support cause riot will blow money on trash while sony will pull support and shut the game down.
>>575386507cute black girl
>>575386507Danger a cute!
>>575478706>Anime and made more friendly You can still tell its Danger, much like you can tell the difference with Iron Man, with it being Gundam like
I wonder if the heavy encryption that bogged down the PC version is because the 4 DLC characters + Champion are in the game and playable, even if they aren't all balanced yet from internal testing.
They’re going to add the maker Reed too I just know it
>>575478896Reminder that false flagging schizo game warring retards should still kys
>>575479540Maybe, the game needs more bad guys, still want Ben with his unique move summon the rest of FF.
>>575479571little timmy is mad his capeslop is gonna fail :(
>>575480040Nta but thinking LoL is going to outlive Marvel which has more characters and content shows how much bullshit you're spewing.
>>575480446>LoL is going to outlive Marvel which has more characters and content shows how much bullshit you're spewingyes cause sony doesn't have a track record of shutting down underpreforming gamesif you all buy it on PC and PS5 maybe you'll be able to keep it alive.
>>575478896>cause riot will blow money on trashIt's not 2018 anymore anon. Riot already put the game in the backburner and it's going in the same direction as Legends of Runeterra
>>575480602Sony fucking up is something everyone can agree with but it would be too obvious and extreme self sabotage since they shilled it so hard and went to Arcsys for wanting an exclusive fighter. Realistically, we have to wait a month or two to say, if Tokon is a flop or not.
I can't wait for launch day when someone mad at sony for the psychical disk shit takes down PSN to make the game unplayable.
Thoughts on the beta? This is probably the first time i've seen tokon be compared to nen impact
Will green lantern be in this game?
>>575482123All I take from this is that no one knows shit and even pros have contraditory opinions of how the game actually plays
>>575482163he's from image comics, retard
>>575482123>THE 2xko shill shits on upcoming tag fighterNo way. Its literally entire 2XKO clique talking shit about Tokon kek.
>>575482123literally his entire stream was shitting on the game and telling someone out fundieing him with magik he was a noob lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJcNAJgwSXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lc1ce_SPvA
>>575482660who is talking it up like it's gonna be the next big tag fighter?
>>575482974When did that happen? I want to see this fundies
>>575483881yesterday's streamhe was playing spiderman because god forbid he plays something that doesn't allow him to scam peopleevery tag player is a retarded faggot
Psylocke confirmed https://x.com/AlphaTakahashi/status/2081552367322030139
>>575482123>leffenyou can safely ignore anything he says
I genuinely wish this game just played better.
>Champion turns into BrolyWHAT?!
>>575484252I wouldn't mind that cause that'd mean being a background character means nothing for playable character status>But StormWhile true, her background model is higher fidelity than others, plus she actually has a whole new design
>>575484252yes the marvel employee working at SDCC and promoing a game confirms it. jesus you guys are fucking dumb, no wonder you eat this slop up.
>>575483979You don't happen to have anything more specific than somewhere in a 7 hour video, do you?
>>575484718Isn't Cyclops one of the background characters as well, or am I misremembering?
>>575467545I like the small version more, but I also like supers where characters punch the ground
>>575485443Both him and Blade were in backgrounds in earlier builds so yeah it means nothing.
>>575484252>C.Viper confirmed for SFV>Vega confirmed for SF6
>>575484808Funnily enough, he fought that dude for like 3 hours because he couldn't find anyone elseJust check a Magik called GIOCATORE TOKON, that was the guy stomping him and making him seethe
>>575471027i could actually see that.
>>575484252Probably maining her, can’t wait
>>575484252Isn't Cyclops team fallen heroes?I don't remember Psylocke becoming a major villain
Is Carnage video out yet
>>575490754nyo...
This my toasterI was getting solid 60fps on highIt dipped below 60 on the New York Stage
>>575486818Well it turns out the fundies was the guy mashing magics fat buttons on hit, on wakeup, on whiff, autocombos on whiffNo wonder leffen was so pissed losing to him over and over lmao
>>575493401and leffen was... trying to scam him with spidermanwow... so honorable
>>575493073>Ryzen 9
I've only played strive as my only arcsys game and had zero fun with tokon. I also heard this game is somewhat similar to dbfz, is dbfz even remotely fun?
>>575493401Wow so the guy was winning by playing neutral doing oki and whiff punish while leffen failed to force coin flips? that's crazy
Name me a fightstick I should get for this game
>>575495178i had a TON of fun playing dbfz but i like dragon ball so...
>>575496213Jesus Christ this looks abysmal
>>575495178Yes, ArcSys DBFZ was tons of fun. Unfortunately only Bamco DBFZ is currently available and it's horrid dogshit.
>>575483167>>575483039Clayton is the goat, while everyone else is focusing on generic tag slop, he's out here already maxing out the game within 5 minutes of touching it.
>>575497118Why do you always glaze yourself?
i plapped clayton
>GTX1080ti runs this with zero issueNot in kidding that fucking GPU has the soul of Goku in it. How is this even possible
>>575497975The game is CPU heavy more than GPU
is the beta concluded?
>>575499000Yes
>>575496464this was just casual mashingif you got any kind of hard opinion from that, that tells more about you than the game
so boys how big we thinking day 1 peak is? On ps5 I bet at least 500k and maybe 100k on steamSF6 wishes it had mahvel chars
>>575499529Four marvellion players
>>575497424Deep down everyone glazes Clayton and wishes they could be him.
one thing i wish they would do, but won't is not let people queue ranked if they can't get a stable 60fpsit's so frustrating playing against someone with a shit connection, but even worse vs someone using a potato for a PC. if you get against someone with both the game is unplayable.
>>575495178DBFZ is objectively good. Most recent patches they turned it into a bit of a party game but nonetheless it had a genuinely one of one run.
>>575493401thats even worse if the guy couldn't beat mashing
>>575499529Above DNF Duel launch, below SF6 launch. I think 30k on Steam seems about right.
I hate every single one of you faggots and especially all the washed up 30+ year old FGC "pros" who haven't competed in anything released in the past decade and think their opinions still matter.Tokon was fun as fuck and I hope they don't change anything about the tag system. Go fuck off and play your old shit that nobody likes.
>>575500052It would be better for the sake of the game but if they actually did it they'd lose a bunch of sales. There was a guy I ran into twice during the beta whose game was clearly barely running and he just played like normal, and then days later I ran into him again. I don't even know what possesses people like to play the game.
>>575500890It is harder to deal with people just teching forward and mashing in this game compared to other games to be fair, at least in my opinion.
>>575501616It irks me how bad most fighters do communication, in most games I can't send these people a message after the match and ask them what the fuck is wrong with them.
Forward roll is so quick how can characters like Goblin even use his bombs as oki?? It feels so futile
can someone buy me tokon on steam pls
>>575501950I'm not entirely sure how oki will work but it seems like you'll want to do setplay on either a wall break or after breaking the combo limit. Definitely on the wall break, but I believe on the combo limit too it creates a hard knockdown that can't be teched.
>>575489706She was lady mandarin and a horseman of apocalypse
>>575501616it's gonna lose me though if this is what the game ends up being. I can't justify spending 100 canadough on this game if online is gonna be 50/50 of playable match vs unplayable. Locals don't exist near me, and my friends all hate fighting games. I'm in the wait and see camp for PC. If the launch seems good though on day 1 I might buy in but I really don't want to buy a game where online is bad when it's all I have. Learned my lesson with SF5 launch.
>>575502760na they will do War Gambit before doing her as a horseman to tie in with the cartoon.
I didn't play Starlord during the beta but looking at TNS I feel like I should.
>>575495178if you can enjoy playing goku goku & goku you'll probably enjoy it. the weird characters aren't really given enough tools or freedom with their kit to really shine or feel rewarding
>>575502860quit being such a baby. learn to play with a little lag its really not that bad. I play with lag all the time
>>575502760>>575503001They are not going to burn a full year on just the X-Men or have the other three based on a theme. Maybe if it was eight characters instead of four, I'd be alright with it, but we have enough X-Men for this set of DLC.
>>575504598bro it was not a little lag with someone playing at 30fps or less
>>575504761its gonna be characters to tie in with avengers movie for sure though. I could see the evil reed richards, but a second stretchy char seems like a strech. I think Pym/Ultron might be one one we get this first DLC though for sure.
I want a slutty girl version of Taskmaster
>>575505376Shang Chi is a lock
>>575505376>its gonna be characters to tie in with avengers movie for sure though.Even more of a reason to have The Thing; again, there is no evidence that every character in season 1 pass is going to be evil themed.
>>575505916>I want a slutty girl version of Taskmaster
>>575507162>season 1 pass is going to be evil themedother than the team themes from every other pick? It's gonna be an evil team of heros as villains 100%
>>575507512> Monkey paw curls.
>So you need a minmum 12 core CPU with high-performance single-thread to run it Why?
>>575507797Sony wants you to buy a PS5
>>575507720They would make her a cute girl like Black Panther if she was in Tokon. It's like Black Panther looks like this in Tokon.
>>575505376>its gonna be characters to tie in with avengers movie for sure thoughI wouldn't be so certain about that, so far the cast appears to be relatively free from Marvel tie-in mandates. It's possible they learned from MvCI debacle that it's best not to meddle too much.
>>575507645But you have no evidence other than the first character being Phoenix Cyclops. Did Arcsys say that season 1 is going to be an evil team, or are we just making guesses?
Playing Tokon made me realise how much of a sausage fest Fighterz was. Whose idea was that?
>>575508042no it's just a guess, which is based on the fact every other team has a theme, and the theme of heroes as villains would fit this theme.
>>575508597Toriyama didn't believe in strong female characters
>>575508597It's Dragonball. Same reason why there's not that many women here, all the coolest characters are male.
I hope they fix the major issues with the game (PC port, input reader and assist cooldown in neutral) because I really like this game and I didn't even get to play the character I want to play (Carnage).
>>575508597They put in literally all female fighters they could. Dragonball simply does not have female characters that fight. Even Videl was a stretch where they had to fuck with system mechanics and invent completely new moves when other characters had all their moves trace back to some manga panel or animation frame.
was excited for blade but then saw his gameplay and saw a combination of vergil and wesker and now everyone uses him what a fucking surprise. if you use blade or magic you're playin the game on easy mode
magik and peni having a twerkoff
>>575509386Bro she doesn't have anything to twerkoff, she's sitting on her ass 24/7
>>575508597RIGHT? Caulifla and Kale are right there but all they did was use their fused form. honestly a big part of why i don't have more hours in that game. Sausage FighterZ.
>>575509506But have you seen her thighs in this game
>>575507797I have a 16 thread high end CPU and the game was still rough. If the CPU usage and network issues aren't fixed by launch I won't buy this until it's on saleDoes it have denuvo?
>>575509000Now now, let's not get crazy. There are way more viable female Marvel characters the game could have than they ever had for DBFZ. You could have pretty comfortably had an all-female roster for launch for Tokon without having to include too many literally-whos. Dragon ball has like 5 female fighters, maybe 10 if you start including people who do martial arts but can't do any ki stuff.
>>575509506still gonna be the biggest selling swimsuit costume if they do those in this game. it's loli coded
>>575509506nigga obviously we're gonna place restrictions on how magik twerks to make it fair
>>575509718Bro, it's Sony.
>>575509689i hope there's an A-Force season that's just all babes.
>https://x.com/jourdal/status/2081811698856403122literally everyone here who talks about "old game" being better lmao
>>575507512oh shit, they are gonna do female Thor instead of actual Thor aren't they. fml
>>575510217>you have to make an award winning movie to criticize a movie yourselfsurely we've moved past this kind of juvenile discussion
>>575510392I'm thinking Beta Ray Bill is more likely than Whor.
>>575508597>>575508952>>575509000>>575509315>>575509521>>575509689Toriyama made 21 because he couldn't find enough females that can fight toe-to-toe with even Krillin. And 21 proved to be such a best girl that most want her to be canon in the franchise.
>>575508723>no it's just a guess, which is based on the fact every other team has a theme, and the theme of heroes as villains would fit this theme.Sure, it would fit, and we can always need more bad guys, but with only four characters, there needs to be some variety. Maybe if we get something like Annihilus, then I'd be more ok with an evil-themed team. Also, again, if we got more than four characters a year, then making a team-based season pass would be fine; I really hate the four characters between two years that we've been getting with every fighting game not named CoTW.
>>575507938>>575510392>>575511401Imagine the ass hurt if we get Jane over Thor, but yeah, I'd be fine with Bill if they want something different.
>>575511856Rising did 6 for the first year and 5 for the second. And 2XKO, despite all it's flaws, is doing like 5 or 6 per year?I personally don't think we are getting teams, or if we are the theme of the team will be really loose and vague as to be nonexistent.
>>575512039the thing is some people are looking at the current roster going "look marvel has no influence" and then you have Shuri as BP, and Danger which after seeing her appear in the 97 cartoon next week kinda makes me think Marvel gave them a list of people they want and are letting them have some leeway with how they are added. Plus I'm sure they want to have some separation from Rivals even though they are different games, they are targeting the same general Marvel audience. That's why we're getting Phoenix Cyclops instead of just plain ol Cyclops. Arcsys doesn't want to do just all vanilla characters, but they will have to make sure certain names are in the game. There's probably been a fair bit of give and take with what characters they currently have in the pipeline.
4 a year is really bad but to be fair a new character adds a lot compared to a 1v1 game
>>575513973I don't really mind four a year so long as the characters continue to be unique, which they've had a good track record of being so far.
>>575510456People with zero cred are the loudest about "old game new" when in reality they were trash in "old game" and people like (You) get upset when you're called out for being a literal who with zero cred even as an online warrior no one knows who you are lmao
>>575514294It doesn't matter how much cred they have faggots like Chris G bitch just as much and as loudly as some poser nobody 12 year old.
>>575514294i think that's a really dumb strawman. i like tokon. i also like older games. i appreciate both for what they are, but making any kind of criticism towards a new game going in a new direction gets instantly handwaved by people like you with this boring generalization. it's the kind of discussion i would expect from a 12 year old nigger
>>575513294Shuri as BP is older than the movies and the MCU is now moving away from her as black panther to have T'Challa's son as the new black panther. But then again, who knows how long ago this roster was decided. I think we will really see come December, if they release a DLC character to shill the new Avengers slop it will confirm that Disney has a hand on the wheel, but if the winter DLC char has no connection they've left it all up to ArcSys.
I will be buying every Peni skin
>>575512352>Rising did 6 for the first year and 5 for the second. And 2XKO, despite all it's flaws, is doing like 5 or 6 per year?Yeah, but Rising and 2XKO had Cygames and Riot Games, in which they can burn money on their side project regardless of them being successful. I hope it'll be the same for Marvel, but they in very funny when it comes to supporting their game division.>>575513294> The thing is some people are looking at the current roster going "look marvel has no influence" and then you have Shuri as BP, and Danger which after seeing her appear in the 97 cartoon next week kinda makes me think Marvel gave them a list of people they want and are letting them have some leeway with how they are addedDidn't Arcsys go to Marvel asking for Danger and Shuri, though? And as far as Danger, Arcysys loves their autistic robotic girls who try to learn about human emotions.
>>575513294Danger was distinctly ArcSys decision, they even admitted to as such
>Peni, Ms. Marvel, and Danger are bottom 4No one wants to play as kid characters
>>575514889I had Peni and Kamala in my team...
>>575514579yeah maybe they trust arcsys cause of how well their games have done recently, but man I know a guy whos worked for marvel comics as an artist. First mostly doing covers and eventually a few series and the editors really have final say unless you're a big enough name as a writer or artist or duo that they just give you carte blanche cause they know your name alone will sell the book. I guess we'll see if they think arcsys is a big enough name or not.
>>575514889Theyre the thinking mans choice
>>575514889didn't they hebe-fied magik though?
>>575514889>play as kid charactersme the coalition of black nerds want to play with them though, if you know what I mean shoutout to my boy lacari
>>575514657>Yeah, but Rising and 2XKO had Cygames and Riot Games, in which they can burn money on their side project regardless of them being successfulYeah, because Capcom is a small family company that can't afford to support the most successful fighting game of all time, please understand. Same for Bamco, though I sort of understand that since Tekken 8 wasn't super-successful.The only one where this applies is Strive, since ArcSys is actually a fairly small company and absolutely nobody expected the game to blow up the way it did.
Loki should be the Dark Heart function
>>575515231>Yeah, because Capcom is a small family company that can't afford to support the most successful fighting game of all timeCapcom just said they love that they do RE games every year cause it can fund projects like Pragmata. I imagine the same is true with SF6 where they are using some of that money to fund other projects instead of dumping it all back into the game since right now it's still kicking every other fighting games ass thanks to japan.
>>575514889The distribution of team leads would be more meaningful, though I think Danger's still at the bottom.
>>575515027Well, at least the story they've been telling is that originally the designs were very faithful and comic-accurate but then Disney said to make them wilder and 'more ArcSys'. That would implicate they have a high degree of trust in ArcSys doing what they do best, but who knows how much of these stories being told publicly is true.>>575515403Loki should be super-simple so my smooth brain can play him, but I'm afraid that due to this status as a cunning trickster who uses illusions he will be super-complicated and hard to play.
>>575515573I'd be disappointed if the game doesn't have any 1-star difficulty characters both because it makes the existence of the difficulty rankings a bit odd when the full spectrum isn't represented, and also, at least if Strive is any indication, the 1-star characters are often more unique even if that uniqueness does make them harder to pick up. Thematically it's hard to imagine any of the other characters we haven't seen being really technical, I guess it could be Promoter if she's playable, but otherwise I feel like it has to be Loki.
>>575514889Don't think Danger's a kidBut nobody wants to play her cause she's a difficult zoner with odd movement and set-play during a 3 day beta
>>575515927>difficult zonerjust set mines and zone to make them explode, if anything storm requires more brain power
>>575515781They should make Hulk the 1-star difficulty character just so everyone can spam "ludonarrative dissonance" at the game for it's entire lifespan. But yeah, Loki makes the most sense as 1-star difficulty, though considering how the stars worked in Strive that does not necessarily mean he will be actually that hard, their ratings were all over the place. Come to think of it, if Carnage actually has health-as-resource mechanic, he could be the 1-star because they seem to consider 'kills themselves when played incorrectly' characters far harder than they actually are.
>>575516020I don't think her zoning is that difficult to perform, but her U not cancelling into anything and not being able to cancel into it from anything are a bit of an awkward combination. It's her movement that puts a lot of people off of her though I think, I think anyone whose even familiar with hoverdash characters is immediately going to find that hers is a bit off, and not getting the benefits of it but still having a hoverdash makes her approach really linear and easily countered with anti-airs. Her teleport makes things a bit easier, but still requires some set-up and also still can just be anti-aired. I think all that comes together to make her very reliant on assists, so feeling so off solo probably put a lot of people who tried her off.
>>575514567If it's not about (You) why do you LARP as if the message was directed at (You)? Like, LMAO!
>>575513294Entire roster is literally characters that had projects in planning/development when this game was in pre-production lmao. Like EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER apart from fucking Champion. This game started pre-production in 2021 and then look at timeline of Marvel movie/tv show projects. Straight up 1:1 roster.
What fightstick should I get?
>>575518893shartbox
>>575518893"""""""fightstick"""""""""???????? did you mean Leveless, or you're interested in spending more for a overprice """"""""fightstick"""""""" that is worse than a Leveless?
>>575518893don't get a fightstick for this game, you're genuinely better off playing with pad if you're accustomed to it. It was not designed with stick in mind and you're going to be making awkward hand movements or missing out on some macro options
Why would anyone play modern games on anything other than a Fightpad? All these games are designed for controller, not arcade sticks
>>575519392how long do leverless take to get used to? like a week of awkward playing?
>>5755202291 day if you have a brain. Haute42's are premium Leveless under $100 I would not look at anything else, and Haute42 has options for Small, Medium, and Large hands so find the one that fits your handsAll options START HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgfJxDLEoHQMore recent PREMIUM vs some options: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJWOFd7BOxA
>>575521401how do you do DPs on this shit? do you have to hold buttons down?
>>575511856I think a season pass of all villains being varied is possible. You just have to spread out their origins. So an X-Men villain, Avengers villain, Street level villain, etc. I'm personally hoping we could get a Masters of Evil team led by Zemo eventually
>>575518893just get a good pad, sticks are fun to use but terrible in modern games when up against pads and shitboxesyou only use a stick if you're old and can't change, or a shitbox if you're some weirdo who loves keyboard controlsif you normally play games on a pad, get a better pad
>>575522563I want Howard the Duck and Bob, Agent of Hydra. If they don't add them it's no buy for me.
>>575523302>I want Howard the Duck hope you bought The Ultimate Edition
>>575522451https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jTZkO0jm48c
>>575523406as a playable character. who the fuck cares about lobby avatars when you're in training mode queued for rank 99% of the time?
I shit on the game most of the weekend but now that it's gone I want to play it
>>575523406i feel like that Doom skin shitting on everyone would cause the maximum amount of butthurt
>>575523496trying to rewire 20 years of my brain muscleKind of an absurd question, but what controllers did the top 10 players end up using?
>>575523302>>575523406>>575523578Just like Rocket Racoon, Arcsys, hates putting short characters in their fighting games. You'd have a better chance of seeing Howard the Duck in an MvC4 than Tokon.
>>575523679You don't deserve it
>>575523679Same. I did it just for the (YOU)
>>575523679me too. I hate the game but last weekend was fomo hype
man I hope we get regular cyclops classic as a skin at least
>>575525916>Rocket RacoonRocket is just gonna ride on Groot in this game eventually
I actually can’t wait for this shit is it 2 weeks from now? I’m dogshit at fighters but I’m determined to make this the one game I want to be decent in. Gonna main phoenixclops and wolverine. I’m so hyped
>>575460897No offense but this is probably the most sauceless wishlist you could have possibly made
>>575509895it's also arcsys
>>575511481it doesn't matter that dbfz is a sausage fest because A21 is best girl, indeed also kefla seggs
>>575531469really? damn, i really tried to do a couple for me and then a couple generally popular heroes for the general audience. who would you suggest i swap out for a more exciting choice? i'm pretty married to Captain Marvel, She-Hulk, All Might, Emma, Wolfsbane, Gwen, and Venom.>>575535562it always disappointed me that the best female character in DBFZ was an ArcSys OC and not an actual DB character. then they added her to the game a second time. ugh.
>>575531168It's next Thursday
Clayton likes tokon therefor I like tokon
I am a one character fg player and Carnage is my guy.
>>575462001fuck are you talking about. DBFZ was hot garbage and remained so for its entire lifespan and yet it stayed alive forever because the IP. this game is going to be up there with SF6 and Tekken as the core fighting games for the next five years at least.
>>575539671retard moment
>>575539850you don't get to insult other people if you genuinely think this game has a snowball's chance in hell of failing. sony and arcsys are already fucking up the launch and it's still going to do stupid numbers for a fighting game.
>>575539850most successful fighting game beta ever even with the PC version being hot garbage but sure, game isn't gonna have legs lmao
>>575467545>pick me Cap, I need a green card sponsor
honest opinionIs Granblue the better game?
>>575542010Granpoo sucks.
>tagging isn't that big of a dea-https://x.com/dylnyan/status/2081891000285552720/video/1?s=61
>>575542010Granblue gameplay is better but there is not a single cool character in that game. Just a bunch of generic anime gachaslop
there's not a single modern fighting game you guys like (even though you sure as shit dont play the old ones you claim to love) why do you even bother coming into a thread for a new one
>>575542010yes simply by having a working pc port without aids
All the super animations look like shitExcept maybe Doombots and Peni Evangelion shit
they need to add burst to tokon
>>575545220I like the pose Magneto does when initiating his super
What's the point of Peni being so big that her zoning tools and gadgets are shit?
>>575540547i don't think Tōkon will fail but FighterZ was godlike.
>>575545682Because they though item toss+assists was going to be broken so they made everything about her shit.
how do you trigger the disassemble thing again?if your enemy does alpha counter and you press it also?
>>575549804You have to time it perfectly, but yes. If your timing is way off you obviously don't get the counter at all but if it's a bit off you knock them away without disassembling them.
>>575545371One of the only defensive mechanics being reactable is insane, I don't know why arc sys would decide they needed to make yellow rc but worse when they didn't even put burst into tokon
>>575542010No in every single aspect but the PC port.One of Granblue's strengths is the graphics and character interactions/animations which are 10/10 and this game is a fucking 11/10 in that regard. It's insane how beautiful this game is and the level of detail it has and I'm not even a Marvelfag.My main here in Tokon is more complex than my main Grub and this is a fucking 4v4 tag game. Also no 66L, but the Crossover feels very similar to BC. At least you don't get giga oki from it that wins the game like BC but it's still annoying that you can spam it. Feels like Crossover is something they need to fix for sure. Just make it uncounterable but when someone uses it they get the disassemble debuff and that's it. This way you fix the spam and the fact that offense is insanely broken in one go.
hold my neutral
>>575542010I didn't play Granblue past the first game's beta because it was so boring but I will play this game past its beta because it was fun.
>>575551064I think having some level of interaction between the person on offense and defense with Crossover is interesting, but the execution of it is a bit lacking. I think if it was a read instead of a reaction it would work better, but asking the person on offense to make a read on every single hit of pressure is a bit much. Maybe Crossover could only be activated when you block an assist, and the person on offense could choose to enter some kind of anti-Crossover stance at that point too, so whenever an assist is used to extend pressure there would be a mindgame where the person on defense is thinking this is their chance to get out, but they might hold back in case the person on offense is ready to counter. On the other hand, they might expect them to counter so they can take their turn back. I don't think any of this will happen obviously because it would be a pretty major change, but I think something in that vein would be a bit more interesting.
>>575551537I feel like that is the job of the counter. Which also can give you a full combo if you save all your assist bars.I'd make the Assemble gauge recover slower and do the change I mentioned, this would fix a lot of issues including combo damage too. It's still high but from midscreen it's harder to do crazy combos without 3 assists.Then with less Assemble gauge you'd spam way less Assemble mechanics too. I don't know about you guys but during the beta I found people doing nothing but the universal overhead, the counter, the crossover and the dragon rush, and despite all of that they always had enough to do an assist during combos too. Speaking of Granblue, it unironically feels like the meter gain there, where meter is literally a non-resource, it's there for looks.
>>575551991I think it's a meaningful resource at the start of the game seeing as you might find yourself using it in some way to get out of pressure or get in, and then you'll have nothing to extend your combo if you do get a hit afterwards. That happened to me on occasion where I'd do Crossover early on and have to settle for a weak combo, or just forget that I didn't have the meter for a better one because I couldn't call in the assist to extend it. Once you get even just two, it feels kind of superfluous though. At worst you might cut a combo a little shorter than it would be otherwise but just one bar is enough to still get huge damage.
>>575552195Yeah, I completely agree. Early game with just 1 it feels very impactful, but it degenerates when having 3. So just decrease how much you get really.Actually, I think you regenerate 1 when wallbreaking? That is pretty good and an incentive to do it if you make it a valuable resource.
>>575536909>it always disappointed me that the best female character in DBFZ was an ArcSys OC and not an actual DB character. then they added her to the game a second time. ugh.same hapoehed with Granblue
>>575460897Here's the template for those that want to do their own wish list.
>>575542010Vanilla - yes, Rising - no.
>>575553564>their own wish listwhat purpose does this serve? lol no one gives a fuck from marvel, or here.unless your some fag on twitch trying to make "content"
>>575553564thanks chief! i probably should've posted that after posting mine. lol
>>575515207no? shes clearly a grown woman.
>When I say Tokon is shit and give my reasons anon come at me throat >When an eceleb says Tokon is shit for the same reasons anon just leave them alone and suddenly agree with the take interesting individuals we have in the fighting game threads
>>575568654it's almost as if the entire internet isn't just one personimagine getting oneguy'd in the big 2026
>>575569721on 4chan it's usually oneguy though since you can pay attention to their typing patterns
Can I pirate it to play vs cpu?
>>575568654Give it a few more months, and people will be ready to agree with you that new fighting game sucks.
been a while since a beta was completely uncrackable well done snoy
>>575553102oh wow, it did. you're right.>>575570637not yet. they put the beta behind 9000 Playstation Network skeletons and nobody has cracked it.
>>575571057So huh, then the anticheat dogshit is getting removed on release, r-right?
I don't think modern fighting games suck. I can easily boot up any new fighting game and find a reason to play it. However I get discourage when thinking about investing into them when they're getting patches like every two weeks nerfing/burfing shit. So, eventually the reason why I was playing the game, the thing that a character had that I personally enjoyed will get removed from the game and then I don't have a reason to play the game anymore. I remember playing Granblue Versus Rising for Yuel, and at release her stance M (the flip kick) would counter/crumple and you could go into some really good damage from that shit. Now mind you even at this time Yuel was seen as a weak low tier character. A fucking patch later they removed that shit and I'm like.... WHO THE FUCK WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS!?!??! THE BITCH ISN'T EVEN TOP TIER. And if you look at any and every single tier list Yuel has always been near the bottom and yet they took a tool from her for no reason. Yes, she's still bottom tier today RIGHT NOW. That was at fucking release. THE BITCH HAS NEVER BEEN STRONG. Yeah I can't. Fuck new game devs and their dumbass 2 week balance patches changing the entire game before we can even settle into the new environment. I wouldn't even be mad if they at least let me get a year in before making changes even if it was the same changes. But these faggot are throwing darts at a board rather than making conscious decisions.
>>575571982you put a lotta bullshit on this list but Emma Frost is a good choice. as much as i've seen her mentioned and as many people as posted that they wrote Emma Frost in on the survey, i'd be surprised if she isn't season 2 or 3.
When is fall October or November? I just wanna know when cyclops is releasing probably
>>575572303The only fighting game that gets frequent patches is 2XKO, and even that is only like once every two months. Yeah patches taking away things you like is bad, but that is the fault of a bad patch, not a frequent patch cycle. One of the supposed advantages of more frequent patching is that you can afford to make small adjustments so you don't have to take away entire tools, though this has unfortunately not materialized yet in a fighting game.
i pre-ordered Tōkon on PC. may God have mercy on my soul.
>>575574254>and even that is only like once every two months.bro that game was getting patches every two weeks for like the first 4 months why are you trying to change the timeline. Do you have any idea how many times Ecko and Yasuro got touched lmao
>>575573416It's ArcSys, so halfway through December at the earliest as a conservative estimate.
>>575574758No, not really, I don't play it or pay any attention. Frequent patches after right after release make sense though, especially when you are clearly releasing an unfinished product. You don't want a Rising situation where the game is obviously busted but it takes you 6 months to rectify an obvious problem character.
>>575574921Dude, this is the timeline: at release they were patching and making so many changes in 2XKO every 2 weeks that they literally came out and said in a statement that they have no idea who the target audience for the game is and they have no idea what they're doing lmao. Please go back and confirm this yourself so you can see just how bad 2 week balance patches can be. I do not have any truth in modern game devs to touch a game every two weeks
>>575575207>truthtrust* why'd it auto to "truth"?
How do I work on defense? I was getting BTFO during the beta because my blocking would just fail.
>>575576530hold back to block
>>575576584>Hold back to block>They do an unseeable low>I get comboedNice idea, GENIUS!
>>575576584I was doing that and then I would get hit with a random move when I thought I could counter. I’m not a fighting game player I’m just here for comic characters
whenever people ask how do they get better at defense there's a 99% chance they're not holding back to block
Asking someone "how to improve my defense" implies you don't even understand the universal mechanics in the game lol
>>575576749You default to holding down back, you should be complaining about unseeable overheads if anything.
has the playable promoter been leaked yet?
>>575577569How do you get out of a blockstring stagger constantly resetting with 3x assists with Tokons universal mechanics though? Crossover gets checked so mash button, mash assemble counter/super your only outs?
>>575386114The defense force for this game is insane. Literally Batman tier of faggots
>>575579157>adding layers to the same question lmao it's the same answer retard
>>575580335first fighting game fandom?
NOOOO HOW DARE YOU LIKE A GAME WHEN I DON'T LIKE IT.... ITS UNFAIR TO ME!
>Marketers vs the unpaid Who do we believe, Maxdood or Random Techmonster#12798745934?
>>575582103the only person who's opinions i trust are my own
>>575582238and which side matches your opinion about tokon, the marketers or the randoms?
>>575582442i trust the opinion of me who played the game for 20 hours and enjoyed it
>>575582531At the 21-hour mark, everything started to crumble for me and I hated itMax will never reach it he's save
>>575582531so the marketers, got it
>>575582531>>575582238based common sense poster>>575582442>>575582103retard ragebaiter hater
>>575583969i guess? but taking your opinion from someone else is what women do, and i can make my own conclusions. you don't get your opinions from twitter, do you?
>>575568654The ecelebs complaining about the game are people like fucking SonicFox and Leffen. The last people I would ever take seriously. If they dislike the game it must be good.
SonicFox is the worst.
When this game comes out I'm going to bully everyone here and make you my all my personal bag full of bitches
you guys do know team game players avoiding tokon is a death sentence?
>>575585889lol faggot who can only pretend to doompost to get a reaction. no personality no friends no kiss having bitch
>>575585889nO iT wIlL bE cArRiEd By mAhVeL fAnS
NOOOOO NOOO LEFFEN DOESN'T LIKE THE GAME AND HE'S WHO I BASE ALL OF MY DECISIONS OFF OF....n-noo....NO!!!!!!!!!
>>575584814>LeffenLeffen came out after and said he liked it and was looking forward to it I thought?
>>575586041projecting much? defending smth so trivial
lady thor dlc
>>575586643Coomers truly are subhuman
>>575531469Anything with Taskmaster is overflowing with sauce
>>575571982there's one thing I don't understand, where is Thsnos?why do these list never include him? or other villains for that mattermaybe you just particularly don't care about him, but it's weird how I never see him mentioned, it's like he doesn't exist
>>575586643>>575588561Literally nobody wants Whor, not even her Bishoujo could outshine Lady Loki.
>>575590907people got burnt out on thanos after the avengers
>>575586204Who are these team game players who aren't going to play the game? SonicFox? Who can only win consistently at MK and can't get people to give a shit despite it being the best selling fighting game franchise? Yeah I think Tokon is gonna be okay without SonicFox
>>575591740Meant for >>575585889
>>575585889People like SFox, Leffen and UMvC niggers avoiding the game would be a life sentence if anything
>>575592506>black "content creators" are avoiding TokonHoly shit I just found my new main game. Whats even better is that Tokon has rock based music instead of that hip hop r&b bullshit Street Fighter has
>>575593131>hip hop r&b bullshit Street Fighter hasThey addressed that in 6 by replacing all music with AI generated noise.
>Namco >Bleach Arena Fighter>Naruto Arena Fighrer>JumpForce Arena Fighter>OnePiece Arena Fighter>DragonBallZ Arena FighterDo you know what all these games have in common? They are all quick cash grabs.>Arcsys>DBFZ>Granblue>Dungeon Fighter Online>Marvel ComicDo you know what all these games have in common? They were designed in the same way Namco designs their quick cash grab Arena fighters.
They had no right making Kamala so Kawaii
I had fun this weekend with the game, might be the first fighting game I bother to learn a little. I have a question though: Is there any advantage to Danger's dash being that way? Felt weird to me and I didn't like using her much because of it. Just couldn't understand the positives of it.
>>575594079What a surprise you mean to tell me majority are only playing it because of the IP?
>>575594079cope
>>575597080???tokon defenders are sensitive af
why is this thread full of snowflakes seething that people like the game? do you need a trigger warning in the next op?
add kusoge to op
>>575597642All the Street Fighter uncs, Avatar asshats, Dragon Ball diddlers, Tekken tossers etc want Tokon to fail so their miserable game doesn't fade into irrelevancy.
melty bloods fault they added malware
>>575542010granblue has always been horrible because you have cement shoes on in that game, just look at >>575551074. to the eyes of the earthbound granblue player this seems like an extremely strong move, because they don't have the eyes to understand they have wings in this game and can simply airdash at them, superjump over it, or dash under it.in granblue people were freaking out about a move being an amazing +2 on block, which would actually be extremely easy to deal with if you had legs that worked, or could string moves together instead of pretending we're a street fighter game
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