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who wonwho lost
Yoohoo~
What the fuck did the Man do to cause Gaster to seethe that hard in the first place
You're making me uncomfortable. Please leave me alone.
weird route but it's ralsei instead of noelle and instead of *proceed it's *excrete
personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
>>575411672I won.(You) lost.
>>575411720
ralsei butt
reposting spell ideas>WATER MAGIC>Waterspout - causes all foes to be DRENCHED>Geyserburst - deals decent WATER-elemental damage to all foes. Depends on Magic.>BriskTorrent - A sudden torrent targets a single foe, dealing WATER-elemental damage three times in a row. Depends on Magic.>VitalDrain - deals minor WATER-elemental damage to all foes. all damage is returned as health and spread between party members>DancingDrops - Water-type spell. Deals MUSIC-elemental damage to a foe. Depends on Magic.>Miracle Fountain - Magical healing water surrounds your party. for the next 5 turns everyone heals 8% HP each turn
Hi my name is December Holiday. I'm 17 years old. I am very similar to you. Did I mention to you that I'm dead?
>>575411717You didn't know? If you force Ralsei fo use Fireshock over and over in chapter 1, Jevil will give you the Vine Collar that lets Ralsei use Firegrave on Susie
I get this feeling that there is no Dess or Asriel and that the memories of HomeTown are all fabricated.You cant leave HomeTownInternet is still outTV shows are only doing rerunsNobody has been beyond the lakeHomeTown is literally called "HomeTown"And I think Toby is trying to hint that this is the case by giving Darkworlds premade history like how Spamton and Tenna were acquainted and how Spamton was in contact with.... someone over the phone.Last I checked, emails cant make phonecalls.Then theres the whole Wierd Route monologue from Noelle where it's almost implying that she's becoming self aware that she's just an NPC.No one is questioning why they cant leave, why the internet is out, why the police are "just for show", etc.They're just "Marching along their path"
>>575411686but i love you i love you so much why won't you just let me love you
>>575411852I'm actually not a pedophile so we don't really have a lot in common
>>575411823Spell Ideas 2>LUCK MAGIC (all spells look like teal, green and white fireworks. might make sprite animations later)>LV 1 Party Poppers/Rockin' Willows- randomly deals 3-12 weak LUCK-elemental attacks spread across enemies randomly.>LV 1 Rollin' Johnny - deals random LUCK-elemental damage one enemy. scales 1-6 with each tier dealing more damage. in the code you have low chance for 1 and low chance for 6. average get 3-4>LV 3 Flamin' Horsetail - weak LUCK-elemental attack that has a high critical hit ratio>LV 5 Splendor - Increases the amount of dark dollars you'll get after winning this battle. 1 use = +10%. 2 use = +15%. 3 use = +18%. no effect afterwards>LV 7 JackPot - Random low-mid damage spell. Costs 16% TP>LV 12 Goldmine (Upgrade) - Random mid-high damage spell (think: Red Buster) Costs 32% TP>LV 15 WINNER TAKE ALL (MAX Upgrade) - Random severe damage spell (think: snowgrave) Costs 75% TP
>>575411882I think this is what the weird route is getting at while the normal route will play it entirely straight.
>>575411686its ok kris let me suck u off
>>575411827What is the endgame of spamming all these images every single day for hours and hours on end? Surely you have to get bored eventually or find something better to do with your time right?
>>575411804berdly cum blue
fave becomes a babyfur
Are we getting any more ARGs to tease Chapter 6? Chapter 6 feels so unpredictable I think almost anything about it, even the faintest bit of information would be heavy spoilers
>>575411986Spell Ideas 3>JEWEL MAGIC (PAY TO WIN)>LV 5 Splendor - Increases the amount of dark dollars you'll get after winning this battle. 1 use = +10%. 2 use = +15%. 3 use = +18%. no effect afterwards>LV 3 Sparkling - Deals weak JEWEL-elemental damage to all enemies. Generates a small amount of dark dollars>LV 1 GreatShine - Spend 60 dark dollars to unleash a moderate JEWEL-elemental attack to one foe. Depends on Magic.>LV 7 GreatShineX - Spend 120 dark dollars to unleash a moderate JEWEL-elemental attack to all foes. Depends on Magic.>LV 10 Gem Armor - Spend 200 dark dollars to increase of your party moderately +8 DF. Stacks>LV 15 Diamond Dust - Deals severe JEWEL-elemental damage to all enemies. Generates a small amount of dark dollars per enemy
>>575412025Faveposters aren't even in the top 10 worst kinds of /utg/ posters why are you bitching? Not enough american politics or gender wars for you?
>>575412114maybe in half a year, most likely in the newsletters
>>575412114I agree heavy on this, I feel like it'll just have a release date shadowdropped randomly.
>>575412081anon, why?
>>575411882This is like saying everything above ground in undertale is fabricated because flowey knows about npc shit and you can't run around up there
>>575412114ERAM probably isn't going to get in to contact with us again until chapter 7 is about to come out
>>575408176He already is.Kris is dead (kept alive by SOUL)Asriel is dead (can now only inhabit Dark Worlds)Dess is dead (can now only inhabit Dark Worlds, can travel to real world for a brief time through the power of [HYPERLINK BLOCKED])
>>575412271The game literally starts on a Thursday
>>575412114Things aren't that crazy yet."Ice Palace"/Holiday Mansion feels pretty much confirmed already
>>575412025My goal is to share art I like of my most favorite character in fiction, and I'd argue this is far and away the "better thing" to spend time on compared to the rest of life's inane doldrums
Fave got biliary tract pain...
>>575412363If Ralsei was Asriel that would make like half of Ralsei's scenes explicitly incestuous
>>575412443if only you knew
>>575412443Ice Palace is written in the context of the Weird Route which skipped base to Chapter 7B, no? It's not a lock in it's going to happen on 6.
Do we know what saving in Deltarune actually means? In Undertale, it's basically time travel through the power of Determination.While Undertale's save points are golden (color of determination), Deltarune's save points are white and are somehow related to dark worlds.Toby mentioned that he didn't actually wanted to add save points in the light world. He only added them for gameplay reasons after tester feedback. They are also see-through in the light world.
>>575412114>>575412165You’ll get spoiled in the same way this was a spoiler in 2024
>>575412443I really hope the dark world is in the holiday mansion and not ice-es. The mansion would feel way more grand to me compared to a pizza place
>>575412484Everyone knows it doesn't count as incest if there is no blood relation.
>>575412665darktermination
>>575412249That's a question for fave now isn't it?
>>575411682if the theory that the Man is like Spamton and Gaster is like Tenna is true, the Man disappeared after signing a contract/making a deal/getting married with Gaster
I find it funny that all Theory Sloppers are basically just ignoring the Knight making the first dark because it's inconvenient Also nobody is even really thinking about the whole "Kris summoning a demon" thing, which seems like a really important plot point to me
>>575412853Theory sloppers try not to forget key details challenge (impossible)
>>575411882Something I'd like to throw is the idea that Dess, supposedly a punk (or even tertiary punk failgurl mcposer), didn't have a place in the town that wasn't memorialized in some way. No graffiti that Carol was lenient in keeping around because it was evidence Dess lived, no story that people laugh at to this day, not some little hovel she made as a home away from home you can find (and sure, Kris can fumble actions and perceptions, but is making invisible walls and faking the world also in his repertoire?). No legacy beyond Carol's grief mostly.
>>575412149Spell Ideas 4>BLADE MAGIC>LV 3 Sharpen - Increases damage with SWORDS for duration of fight when used +15% damageElemental-Sword Spells (deals more damage than normal attack but weaker than spells like rude buster) All cost 32% TP>RUDE-SWORD - Deals RUDE-elemental damage to one foe. Depends on attack. Requires RUDE-affinity>ANGEL-SWORD - Deals HOLY-elemental damage to one foe. Depends on attack. Requires HOLY-affinity>FLAME-SWORD - Deals FIRE-elemental damage to one foe. Depends on attack. Requires FIRE-affinity>MOUSEY-SWORD - Deals MOUSE-elemental damage to one foe. Depends on attack. Requires MOUSE-affinity>AQUA-SWORD - Deals WATER-elemental damage to one foe. Depends on attack. Only available if you took Aqua's item in chapter 5>X Slash - 2 sword attacks on one target>Y Slash - 3 sword attacks on one target>Z Slash - 1 sword attack on all targets>LV 5 CarveSwing - X Slash on all foes. 50% TP
Why do the Darkners seem to be omniscient? Why do they seem to know everything?
>>575412853Catti is a joke character so the demon summoning is a joke until proven otherwise
>>575412689why the papyrus thoughwe did not saw him in chapter 5
oppa gangam style
>>575411682I like the theory that forgotten man is DT Gaster so, being the only guy who could maybe eventually fuck with UT Gaster, had to go
>>575412997Counterpoint, Catti wasn't present for the Demon summoning, she wussed out
>>575412853Theory sloppers tend to want to discredit the Knight for as many fountains as possible for some reason>kris made card kingdom>kris made cyber world>alvin made 1st/3rd sanctuarySomething about The Guy Who Opens Fountains being the character who opened any fountains really pisses them off apparently
>>575413023It was an undertale newsletter
quads
>>575413306how long ago was it?
>>575413332only 0s, buster
>>575413332You have to uninstall Deltarune now
>>575413332>she doesn't know
>>575412969what about the shelter?also i think that carol keeps things as is because she genuinely believes dess can be brought back/will come backthe game never says she died, just leftthere's also the street we never seethere's no reason to think she never existed when she still has a room, people still remember her and azzy, etceven if its all fake you could just fake that stuff too
would you rather be raped by dess or noel (the male one)>>575413332kwab
>>575412853I do think the demon summoning thing has some importance but if any question in this game is answered by "kris and catti summoned a demon" I'm going to be pissed
Is the 1225 Gachapon machine secret the only moment in the game, other than the Egg Rooms, that breaks the logic of time and space?
>>575413363>t. Roaring Knight to Flowery
>>575413362Read my post nigga
I wish I could get my hands on some sort of an absolute normalfag, who doesn't engage with theories, newsletters, sweepstakes, reddit and other shit, and ask him>What do you think the plot is?>Who do you think the Knight is?>What do you think Kris wants?>What's up with the shelter?>What's up with Dess?A large part of chapter 5 served to establish Asgore being a conspiracy nut to normies who don't read every flavor text in the game, and didn't find the secret scene with Asgore interacting with the shard.So I wonder what the normies think about the plot. Because Deltarune is not made for us, it's made for normalfags.
>>575413267This except the girl is Susie
>>575413040She was only 17.https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/438017714/#q438030030
ralsei gaster tvtropes mad scientist's sexy daughter (male)
What if Grown adult male Fave with Favenis and Favrotum saw video clips of Dragon Blazers plush toys being tortured and abused and started to feel his eyes watering?Fave felt very bad and felt his heart sink in dread, not only for the mental state of the plush torturers and for the real Lightner beings that get hurt like this, but also feeling very bad for the plush toys themselves, even for the wonky looking Cat Petterz bootleg ones. Every living being was made from another, and even every inanimate thing couldn't have been crafted without the intent of a living man or monster.Fave went down a rabbithole and found out that there are online communities devoted to plush toy torture and destruction, not just shortform videos of violent youth hanging and mauling their plush toys...Even if the Darkners aren't upset to make the Lightners happy, at the whims of a cruel yet loving(?) hand...it still hurts to see it.
Gasterchads won bigly btw
My faith was shaken, but I refuse to let it dieI BELIEVE IN CAROL KNIGHT, ALL IN
>>575412969Dess was a larper. She was a rich girl with nothing to feel angst about searching about cryptids online and watching MRE unboxing videos
>>575413539me technically >What do you think the plot is?figuring out who the roaring knight is >Who do you think the Knight is?dess>What do you think Kris wants?freedom >What's up with the shelter?that's where the vessel is >What's up with Dess?she's the knight
>>575413586not my post, I don't usually save images of Berdly being hurt unless they're very goofy like picrel
>>575412689Maybe there's already a spoiler in one of the newsletters and we just need to find it
>>575413175>Something about The Guy Who Opens Fountains being the character who opened any fountains really pisses them off apparentlyit's probably because they want the knight to be a darkner and are trying to desperately grasp at any explanation for how it obeys the "only lightners can make fountains" ruledespite the knight still making like 5 fountains on screen to make the titan
>>575413175I would say that it WOULD make sense if Kris was the one who made the Card Kingdom fountain because the Scarlet Forest is very much a recurring motif with Kris's worlds and King didn't ever actually see or meet the Knight, unlike Queen. That said, the TV world and Flower Kingdom both have fever dream quality and certain level of flair that the Card Kingdom doesn't share. Also the Cyber Kingdom had to be made by the Knight, that's like the only world that seems 100% the Knight's doing and it was basically explicitly said to be the Knight's world
>>575413539How much do you even know about Dess, if you engage purely with the game and nothing else?
>>575413539You can replay all the chapters right now. It’ll be the experience of someone who’s just getting into the game right now, you’ll see the way Toby places info across chapters at face value
>>575412853>which seems like a really important plot point to meAs with everything else Catti-related, the joke is that it seems important, but it isn't
>>575413435sword game where the little kris can walk through the wall out of the game
>>575412970Spell Ideas 5>SMELL MAGIC>LV1 Unsavory! - Produce a bad smell! Lowers the DEFENSE of all foes>LV3 Nasty! - Produce a Sickening stench! 80% chance to make all foes TIRED>LV5 Rank! - Produce a gut-wrenching aroma! 60% chance to make all common foes flee>LV1 PleasantWhiff - Produce a nice floral scent. Increases the defense of all PARTY members>LV1 AngerWhiff - Produce a spicy rage-inducing scent. Increases the attack of all PARTY members
i wish i could draw....
Should i start my drawing journey tonight?
>>575413948can there be a spamton's ass candle smell spell reference
>>575413332Why is everyone answering to this weirdly What's the inside joke guys
>>575413797>That said, the TV world and Flower Kingdom both have fever dream quality and certain level of flair that the Card Kingdom doesn't share.It's hard to say this is intentional because chapter 1 is an obvious demo
>>575413824>Noelle mentioned her a few times in unmissable Chapter 2 dialogue>She's related to Raise Up Your Bat in some way>Older looking reindeer is the first one to disappear in the Tenna flashback>You go into Noelle's sister's room and it has sort of a depressing aura surrounding it>Asriel wrote a love letter to someone named December
Wasted my Sunday again award
Carol would be homophobic and listen to MCR at the same time (she's not over Toriel and takes it out on literally everyone)
>>575414076you can’t get digits on vg
>>575413970Better late than never, I guess.
>>575414136>mewtroon wasting his time and being useless zamn i neva saw dat one comin
>>575414132>unmissableunless... you know...
>>575413970Yes!
>>575414158its just https://youtu.be/53EV229jBgk?si=UxU1T1GO757hZxaW on loop, for hours, on speakershe stole the CDs from Dess's room
is there any explanation why supposedly dess is talking to "someone" through the code
>>575411882"Simulation theory" just seems like an application of DEVICE theory to meWe already know that Deltarune is diegetically a video game, characters can see the menus and know which way you're watching them fromVideo games are a limited simulation by nature, anything that doesn't appear in the game doesn't -really- exist.It is impossible for a video game to be a complete simulation of the world it describes to you, but at the same time what the game simulates IS the entire world of the game.I've seen people point to the Undertale 10th anniversary stream where Toby Fox addresses this exact subject at length as somehow being a refutation of the idea that he would explore this in Deltarune, but doesn't that just show it's something that he's put a lot of thought into? He obviously believes RPG mechanics can be more than killing enemies to increase your numbers, but he still made the Genocide route, didn't he?Toby's whole career as a game developer has been about exploring the contradictions inherent to video games as a medium. The freedom to pick predetermined choices with predetermined outcomes, to explore anywhere along the predetermined path within the invisible walls, to find the secrets that were placed for you to find.What does it mean for a game to give you freedom? To break free of the path? What happens when you finally get to go out-of-bounds and find that there's nothing there?
>>575413539As someone who's played every chapter but does not typically replay them, and also never bothered with the genocide route or chapter 3's equivalent a lot of the "lore" about the game I've kind of half-absorbed through osmosis, which makes me feel like I'm missing out sometimes, but I think that's just gotta be expected with a series like Undertale/DeltaruneThe average Undertale player will never learn who "Gaster" is, will only know about the alt route through Sans STRONGER THAN YOU memes, and in some cases might not even know about true pacifist. I watched my brother play a long long time ago and when Omega Flowey crashes your game he was just like "huh what an interesting ending, I'd give it a 5/10" and stopped playing, I had to be like WAIT HOLD ON OPEN THE GAME BACK UP DUDE
i wish i was painter
>>575414224Come on, at least half of the anons here are like that too.
>>575414053>LV 5 Signature Smell (Upgrade) - Smell like a true salesman! 70% chance to make all common foes flee and if they flee they drop their MONEY. Requires DEALMAKER to be equipped
>>575414319>I watched my brother play a long long time ago and when Omega Flowey crashes your game he was just like "huh what an interesting ending, I'd give it a 5/10" and stopped playingDamn.
>>575413691trvke, the most punk thing this doe ever did was have sex with an 8-10yr old
>>575414275If you're referring to the Lesbian Skip I didn't just mean Noelle's room, she talks about Dess wanting to take her to a big city in the DECEMBER spelling segmentIf you're referring to the Weird Route it's highly unlikely someone playing it wouldn't be at least knee deep in the lore already
>>575413539I was (mostly) playing it without any deeper looks up until the chapter 5 release, but I also use the internet everyday so I was exposed to some things naturally. I was playing chapters on release but not particularly engaging with fandom outside of saving some art. Here's what I would've answered the day chapter 5 released when I played it>PlotKris, Susie, and Ralsei are trying to stop the roaring and get into the shelter to save Undyne>KnightI have no idea. I don't think it's any currently we currently have knowledge of though.>What Kris wantsTo stop the roaring and figure out whatever is going on with the soul (the significance of Kris and the soul being separate is something I seriously glazed over)>ShelterThere's something of significance in there, probably has to do with Carol, but not Darkner/Darkness-related stuff in general>DessShe's Noelle's sister who fucked off somewhere, I didn't really put any thought into it
>>575414321Every time you post this, you are reinforcing the chances of having your entire body covered in fat Spamton tattoos within your lifetime or afterlife
if using he/him for kris is considered wrong because "Kris is their own person!!", then why is it okay for artists to draw Kris Dreemurr with a different skin colour like brown or white and even see them as such?
>>575414303strictly speaking we don't know it's Dess and their dialouge is painfully generic on purpose (though some people say it sounds a lot like Noelles inner thoughts)
Because you touch yourself at night.
>>575412665"SAVE points" still seem to form in response to your Determination ("a certain power"), but Chapter 1 and Chapter 3 make it pretty clear that Gaster is in charge of handling your SAVEs, just like he controls the other aspects of your connection to the game.
>>575414165What does THAT meanI've only ever used this board sorry...
>>575414449unless they're the type to really like ice statues
>>575414521expecting any logic from gender people is pointless anon. their own world views are contradictory and their minds are literally being ruined by synthetic hormones. and they probably self insert into kris to boot. they're retarded, don't even bother
>>575413824Dess content in each respective chapter:>Chapter 1: Minor flavor text Noelle and her sister made an angel doll. This is the weakest mention of her character by far.>Chapter 2: Unskippable scene where Noelle recalls going out in the woods with Kris, Dess, and Asriel. Speaks of a promise Dess made to see the city with her>Chapter 3: Unskippable moment Tenna showcases Dess was musically inclined, Kris looked up to her, and strange loose thread about her current status.>Chapter 4: Unskippable elephant in the room vacant bedroom full of items that can be interacted with indirectly displaying Dess' character to the player. Showcases the importance of the guitar. Shows Carol is protective of it. It's all but directly said this is Noelle's missing sister's room.>Chapter 5: Flavor text suggests Dess had a relationship with Asriel. Asgore's unskippable cutscenes tell explicitly of an Incident the police at the time investigated, thus making it clear there is a plot thread that may link a missing girl and an investigation, although not confirmedIt's crazy some people seriously say Dess is an obscure lore character the normal casual player doesn't know about. Anyone paying attention to the story can connect the dots
>>575414571>Fight
>>575414462>I was (mostly) playing it without any deeper looks up until the chapter 5 release,same herewhat about chapter 5 made you want to dig deeper?
>>575414636You talk like an attentionwhore, faggot
is deltarune actually a videogame or do we just interface with it as onelike do they exist outside it even though they're in it
>Carol and TorielProbably the worst ship imaginable.
>>575414671Dess is simultaneously considered "too obvious" and "too obscure" to be the knight by knighttheoryfags and I find it really funny
>>575414590wait i do that what's wrong with this
>>575414748typo
>Alvin and SnowyProbably the best ship imaginable
>>575414818The actual too obvious candidate is Carol, which is why nobody seriously believes it's her.
>>575414571kek
>>575411804I didn't see this until now, but this is a cool art :) if it's random bullshit it's good bullshit
>>575414818Dess is trapped in the Goldilocks zone
Crackship time? Tell me your best. I'll startChester x Snowbun girl
>>575414636i'd like more consistency across the fandom at the very least, through, misgendering kris is seen as bad but misgendering ralsei is seen as okay, changing skin colours is seen as okay but god forbid you drop a he or she, like damn.
>>575414758it's not even a ship its just a thing that obviously happened because Toriel is a very hyperactive party woman and very close to Carol at some point. Bitter now, but things dont get bitter because it was casual
>>575414346Thank you I will use this in my Dark World adventure tonight and let you know the results
Alvin is the most useless motherfucker in the world who doesn't even care that his church got wrecked and he's also the only person in town to explicitly say the Shelter is some evil shit and that Kris needs to stay the fuck away from it
>>575414671There is also Noelle losing a spelling bee because of December
>>575414671it's really strange she gets mentioned EVERY chapter for supposedly someone that missed 7-8 years old agoshe really is an important character
https://litter.catbox.moe/dg13tps0l8smz0yz.pngstitched the goomyloid comic but it'd still need like 4 posts if i made it 4chan friendly so it's a single file on catbox instead
>>575414750they're all paid actors from Massachusetts that Gaster hired, Susie isn't actually even purple
You are genuinely a bad person if you want human connection btw
>>575415018ralsei hasnt even come out yet bruh if he EVER says "erm kris i kind of do like being a princess" ur never gonna be allowed to misgender himi dont care for any of the trans stuff but i gender kris as they because they're my fave and i love them
>>575415058okay good luck make sure not to make too many dark fountains, anon. remember to find the schizo boss and the egg
>>575414923carol is also in the same boat through, "too obvious", "it's obviously not her!", "um actually she's a red herring!"
>>575414818>>575414968yeah she's literally the most appealing candidate from a storytelling perspective in the sense that she's been properly foreshadowed but would still be a wild twist for casuals not plugged into the fandom who would nonetheless feel like it didn't come out of nowhere in retrospect
>>575415158no one's saying carol is too obscure to be the knight though so they're not at all in the same boat
>>575415003Me x You
>>575412969Dess's memorial is kept safe at home.Preserved where it won't be broken or lost.Everything important is always kept safe at home.
>>575415003Dess x Pizzapants. Asriel was in to cuck play and Pizzapants was their only mutual friend
>>575414721A few things reallyI haven't really adored anything Toby's done since chapter 1, but I just really did enjoy chapter 5. As a self-contained story, it's by far the best chapter. Flowery is a really good character and the tragedy of the flowers spoke to me. I've never been one for these stretched out releases over a long period of time (I got burned by Your Turn to Die so now I hate this release format), but since chapter 5 was released after 3/4 in a timely manner, I'm willing to trust that 6/7 won't be fucking stupid in release dates as well.I also was talking to somebody about Deltarune who was much more into the specifics than me and I wanted to be able to talk about it on their level.
>>575415223casual-- Dess gets more fucking characterization in this game than fucking Berdly
>>575415018the galsei stuff is so retarded (and the delusional fanaticism of those who want it, even more so) but i'm glad it seems to be quieting down as people actually consider what they have read. it is odd though, half these people understand a woman can be called a prince or a king and be a woman but if a guy is called a princess then he's automatically trans. just weird
>>575413681The Hometown WR track being called Happy Town is probably the biggest win Gasterbros have gotten since "There was nothing but garbage noise." yet I've seen surprisingly little discussion surrounding it. I mean, not that there's a whole lot to say, but I feel like it's the kind of thing the fandom would've latched onto super hard a few years ago and made a million Meat Factory Dark World mockups over.
>>575415003Carolowery
>>575415325What are you talking about? We don't even know her view on nipples.
>>575415003ralsei x tenna ralsei x gaster ralsei x noelle
>>575415240her guitar shines more than the rest of the roomfeels like something that wont be used once in game
I know you're huffing massive cock right now but at some point you have to recognize you're playing a Toby Fox product and 10 out of 10 times the character signaled as transgender or closeted turns out to be a closeted transgender
>>575414818That's because they're morons who think in terms of trying to outsmart the person writing the story.
>>575414626Its okay newfag. I made a joke about trying to roll "quads" which is when your post shares the last same number in its ID. They also do this with dubs, trips, quads, quints, etc. Each becoming more and more rare. Dubs are one in 10, trips one in 100, etc. However, VG doesn't allow for rolling for these numbers. >>575413402<spoiler> Its one of my bits </spoiler>
>>575413539I jumped in at chapter 5 so I'll throw my two cents>What do you think the plot is?I do think it's totally played straight. Stop roaring, save world. >Who do you think the Knight is?Dess. Rudy would be cool but I don't think Kris would agree to kick start the roaring with him. I'm choosing to ignore the Asriel in the room because that'd be gay.>What do you think Kris wants?To protect Noelle. I think that's the promise they made either to Carol or to Dess, maybe both.>What's up with the shelter?I think it's a very literal survival bunker that can somehow handle the roaring if shit goes poorly with it. It's a B plan, basically.>What's up with Dess?Got Gaster'd. However I truly can't guess how the knight does what it does in the light and dark world. Might just be some "I'm in-between so I do both!" bullshit
>>575415325berdly couldnt even shine snowgrave even though its f1he doesn't deserve characterization
Dess has the personality of Laura Palmer from twin peaks
>>575414818She's "too obvious" because reaching the conclusion she might be the Knight is easy if you follow the clues Dess exists and is important to the plot to begin with. Not to say it's correct, it can still be misleading.>>575415158Carol isn't an obscure nor an overly obvious choice, but most people already assume she's some kind of antagonist so making her also the Knight is just not really surprising. I think Carolknight suffers from being an unappealing choice more than anything
>>575415524Toby Fox likes boys more than girls
>>575414601Queen does mention that "Determination"(which supposedly all lightners have) is required to open a dark found. So, there is some connection to that.Are there any "time travel" shenanigans like in Undertale? The closest I can think of is the Gaster (?) dialogue when you die to the Knight. He can remember that you already died to the Knight before.
>>575415524Name 10 times that happened
The people who think Toby is gonna subvert their expectations for a cheap thrill are the same people who did not play Undertale, because if they did they'd understand that his twists are only twists to the characters, not the player.
>>575415549fahaha i see what you did there anon
Man I dont know what to play now while I wait yet again for the next chapter.I'm glad it didnt take nearly as long as the wait for 3 and 4 but still.it's going to be well over a year isnt it?
rolling numbers into a let me put it bluntly
>>575415332I hate galsei I hate galsei I hate galsei i hate
>>575415826Dominions 6
>>575415826Hello Charlotte ,its about smashing TVs
>>575415393Well it is GLACEIRShit, we really are going to the Meat Factory in Ch7B aren't we...
>>575413332Is that food coloring on her neck?
Gonna be real, Rudy is still weird as fuck. He has like 50 different ominous lines and is the first Deltarune exclusive character we learned about, before even Susie Like what the FUCK did he mean by this. Why is he one of the ONLY NPCs we talk to in the weird route. Why does he keep referencing future events.
>>575414289What should I draw then anon?
>>575412443>Noelle cooked some doughDess was baked.
>>575415792a noelle scene without a fahaha or surprised expression is like a sans scene without a joke
>>575415905I have 5, how much different is it to 6?I dont really want to pay full price for a miniscule addition
>>575415961i saw his face as having four closed eyes for a second instead of thick eyebrows and thick eyelashes
>>575415971Berdly asking Kris if he desires his McNuggets
>>575415826I doubt it. They already said they're working on the final boss of 6 and some of the staff are working on 7.I think it'll be late this year as a nice surprise or it'll be first quarter next year. The wait for 7, though? Year and a half minimum. Probably 2. And that's assuming Toby plays it straight.
>>575415332How people can look at a character who explicitly has "I'm comfortable in my body" as a major part of his character development and think>waow... she's dysphoric just like meis beyond me at this point
Rudy is Mexican coded
>>575415971anything you want anon, draw your fave
>>575415974well yeah that's what the leaves were for
>>575416048I have this if it counts
>>575415971Draw Carol in samurai armor having a duel with Rory.
>>575415332luckily most of the fandom is into tomboys so at least susie doesnt get the same treatment for daring to not act feminine.>picrelflowery also calls kris and susie princesses and flowery stops calling ralsei a princess later on when ralsei becomes friendlier around him, and if it was truly a "trans flag" and not just a reference to kris (blue and pink, dark world kris colours) why wouldnt there be a white colour alongside it?? also the "pronouns" thing from the dark vines title applies to susie too lmao, wouldnt you think it's an important thing to address in the theory? plus their logic isnt very logical, if toby didnt want trans-sei to be dismissed why would it be so subtle? that person says people will just deny it as if the fandom wouldnt be absolutely batshit insane and bring it up every 5 seconds, TADC ended and jax being trans is still something that its fandom can't get away from, in what world would you have to live in order for super trans character denial to exist and be commonplace without anybody bringing them being trans up every 5 seconds unprompted?
>>575415961If there are no Rudy knighters in this world, it means I'm dead
>>575416008https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8caa3KAt6s
>>575415393Gaster's theme is also in the extended version of Flashback that plays in the WR. Same soundfont and everything.
>>575416075That's promising at least.Still got PTSD from that 2 year wait.The same ritualposters....The same memes....The same....
>>575413948Spell Ideas 6>PLANT MAGIC>ThornGrave - A fatal spell that deals severe PLANT-elemental damage to one foe>RazorLeaves - Deals decent PLANT-elemental damage to one foe 3-4 times>AmazeVine - Deal moderate PLANT-elemental damage to all foes>ThornGrapple - ENTRAP all foes for 3 turns. causing their attacks to be 10% slower. does not affect flying foes>LV 10 Poison Pollen - Causes all foes to become POISONed>MagicHeal - if no damage is taken next turn selected party member will gain a significant amount of health>Spring Feeling - Causes the SOUL to be able to SNEEZE during bulletbox segments by pressing [Z]. the SNEEZE pushes bullets to the right a bit and it has a cooldown>Aromatherapy - Produce a soothing scent that heals all status conditions affecting the party>GiantCut - Two big leaves slice the foe. Deals moderate PLANT-elemental damage with chance to critical hit>MossSpell 32% TP - Produce a magic patch of moss and Kris and Susie will consume. Heals slightly
>>575414495a small price to pay to be good at drawing
Ralsei is the first femboy that finally pushed me over the edge and made me want to drill him for days on end.Hes so fucking hot HOW did Toby do it.
>>575416079because they’ll ignore all of it just to project onto him
>>5754160086 adds some stuff but 5 is still great. You could probably find multiplayer games on 5 still too
>>575415961people act like he's not carol's husband. He knows as much as she does if not more. You need to be looking at his dialogue as a proxy of Carol's.
rudy papyrus carol sans
>>575415549Why can't you roll em or is it just because so
>>575416240>The same ritualposters....i love my boy ralsei
>>575416309yah lmao dess is his daughter too, prolly thinks about her every day
>>575415024You're not funny, and your death will not be remembered.
>>575416206the pronoun thing is stupid because he’s referred to using “he” in the latest patch when you put the flowery clips on him
>>575416079>If there is ONE thing I like about my bodyit's a common symptom of dysphoria to feel as though you're not a real person, some even go so far as to assume everyone else feels the same way as well. A disposable object made for the benefit of others because you cannot possibly imagine respecting yourself due to the inherent contradiction between your body and self. An impossibility, THE impossibility. Was the empty room playing Lost Girl not enough of a swing across the face for you to get it?
>>575416372>Why can't you roll emBecause it's like broken windows. When one person starts rolling for numbers, everybody does.For example. Check'em. Singles for chud Noelle.
>>575416391mr.krabs....I can't forget... him...
>>575416256He's basically a demure, traditional girl but as a guy. I'm not completely sold on the idea of people being more flexible in their sexuality, but I think there's probably more than a few guys more attracted to femininity than the female sex itself.
>>575416483>about my bodyNot what he said, read the text again, it's "one thing I like about myself"
>>575416483ok explain why the mikes had the lost girl motif then
>>575416404Ralsei said calmly to Flowery
I want Noelle’s house but Icee’s dark world would be really cool. I’m not sure how to feel because how do you do that without at least one joke about five nights. Like maybe he’d even pull off some funny jokes and the rest would be very unnerving. Or maybe it would be cringe. Very torn, but I like Icees for the horror vibe, Holidays for more doe content. Feels like it’d be a waste to toss away a bit of that lore with (eram or friend) the Icee pizza thing and Dess. Ideally, we’d get both. Holidays as the final dark world feels fitting given Noelle and Dess and Carol’s involvement.
Deltarune's moral is gonna be something fucking stupid. I know it.
The twist is that Asgore isn't a dope, Carol is actually secretly a very kind and compassionate person. She has all those heart pillows because she's a hopeless romantic. She was excited that Noelle was going to the festival with Kris because she always thought they were perfect and they finally got back together. She showed up for the guitar because she was genuinely upset about Susie besmirching her daughter's legacy, but because of the code. Kris is taking advantage of her trusting nature for the Knight's plan (triple trucies)
>>575415749The closest thing to Undertale-like "deja vu" between saves is Seam picking up on if you've beaten a Shadow Crystal boss in another save slot and being able to collect their crystal and equipment from the cliffs left of Castle TownThe only direct acknowledgement of SAVEing from another character is Ralsei prompting you to "SAVE and take a break" when you return to Castle Town in Chapter 2. It's not really clear if Ralsei understands what SAVEing is or the implications of it. The best evidence of this is that he sometimes acknowledges when you do something you're not supposed to know yet, like if you solve the piano puzzles in Chapter 4 without finding the solution first.
>>575416526ive been usin /vg/ for years and i had no idea you couldnt roll on this boardall i know about is the image compression shit
>>575416483Plenty of people are unsatisifed with their appearance. That's how the beauty industry works. It's why men go to Turkey to get the heads red.
Good night /utg/, thanks for coming to my birthday party :D
>>575416609or why the sneaking theme had the lost girl motif too, dont forget anon
I'm getting real Bridget Discourse vibes from people talking about Ralsei and I suspect when she inevitably comes out there will be people making entire careers off of misquoting Chapter 1 on twitter as "evidence that Toby Fox gave into the Woke Mob"
>>575416686I don't know a board where you CAN roll. You get banned on /tv/ for that.
>>575416483Lost Girl means jack shit, even the Mikes had the motif playing in their room.
>>575416483kill yourself. fuck i hate trans people
>>575415332>quieting downThese people will never stop I hope you realize. I am not a tranphobe or /pol/fag that would hate for a character to be trans either. People like this are just actually insane.They don't care about the context of the story or the character at all.It's literally just "feminine boy in dress must be girl"And if you disagree you hate them and want them dead. I've seen it happen over and over again, there is no "quieting down" when it comes to this.But I'm halfway expecting Toby to do it just so he isn't labeled a chud or something so it's whatever.
if it wasn't for Gaster's sound testing Weird would have no soundtrack
>>575416483groomf>>575416565>demureYoure making me very angey
>>575416670Green's non-verbalness, which is usually thought by many in the fandom as a sign of neurodivergence, could indicate that Carol herself is atypical too. So this could mean that Kris is taking advantage of an autistic person for their own gain. Bad Kris. Bad.
>vs Kris>Bad Apple remix with english lyrics starts playing
>>575416745bridget is the worst possible example for this as in japan he’s still recognized as a trap character. marketing materials call him a boy. he was only trooned out for the western audience
please play the game before making any theories about the knight’s identity
>>575416715celebrate good times come on
>>575416206>TADC ended and jax being trans is still something that its fandom can't get away fromYeah, because the author is too retarted to interact with a large fandom
Memory (Asriel's theme) played during Undyne's date so Undyne secretly fantasizes about becoming a shota
>>575416715happy birthday buddy. It's my birthday in 2 days. please finish deltarune before i'm old toby.
>>575416745When is susie transitioning? Its only fair he becomes his true self.
>>575416958Alphys would definitely make Undyne roleplay as a shota if she thought she could do it. >>575416715Happy birthday anon. Hopefully you have a life outside of here.
>>575416670this furthers the Queen parallels, and even an antagonist Carol being a role she takes that she thinks will make her close ones happy
>>575415332if you don't hang out with ralsei literally the only girly thing you see is him being called princess by flowery
>>575415332pure unbridled mental illness holy shit
>>575416909That simply isn't true, and you're only proving my point that you're deranged.
>>575416753no i mean dubs do not show up on /vg/, they are skipped
>>575416745I hope Ralsei doesn't turn out to be a tranny. It should be more acceptable for guys to have feminine traits, so I think this could, in a way, actually reinfornce restrictive gender norms.
>>575417132Wait, for real? I've never noticed that.
What if instead of ralsei being a troon it was a Mulan situation where she was a girl disguising herself as a boy to be part of the prophecy
>>575416483Lost Girl plays in the Holiday Mansion basement if you turn the boombox on. Is the basement trans?
>>575416715Dude, today is my friend's birthday too what the hell
>>575417181try and find a single instance of dubs in this thread anon
I blame toby fox, and I 100% believe he will Jax Ralsei. If you think he isn't woke enough to do it you're retarded.
>>575417152Umm, chuddie, most feminine men later become trans, okay? It's okay to be a feminine man, but remember that you're trans, actually.
>>575415332I hate these people a lot kek I mean it. Trannies are so unpleasant and annoying
>>575416715yesterday was my birthday too, what the hell why is /utg/ full of july birthdays
>>575415332>her pronouns were updated! they/them is a steppign stone to full transness!!galsei theorists are all enbyphobes and probably the same people pushing kriselle & WR are "reinforcing gender roles"
>>575417206this would also suck
>>575417152Yeah no one believed that argument 5 years ago either, it's just reheated leftovers trying to weaponize civility politics, and doing a terrible job to boot.
>>575416483>Ummm... d-do I still look cute?>The hell do you mean "still?">I mean, obviously I look cute normally?>Y-You... really think so, Kris? Umm...>Well, I suppose I can't help being a cute subject!>Pfffhaha...>Big head.>LOOK! I'M CUTE! LOOK AT MY PAW PADS!!! IT'S! CUTE!There's no contradiction between Ralsei's body and self at all. Ralsei is super proud of his appearance in general, not just his face. He also says in this chapter that he likes his own voice. Ralsei's problems mostly have to do with a lack of agency, not dysphoria.
why are we having /v/ tier tranny discussion with literal fucking reddit postsgo back
The trans gender stuff is dumb because our bodies are always flawed no mater what and we will all be given genderless perfect angelic forms in heaven
I’m transfixedI’ve transformedI got translocatedI do translationsI transferredI transcribed a post
>>575417315Would feed a stick of butter
Ralsei trans discourse is an artificial ass debate because Chapter 5 didn't bring enough theory content to talk about
>>575416745>when she inevitably comes outPutting aside whether you think there's sufficient evidence to declare that Ralsei is canonically a trans girl, Toby Fox having a main character explicitly come out as transgender as part of his story is an entirely different issue
>>575416247Spell Ideas 7>MOUSE MAGIC>Squeak - unleash a fearsome mouse roar! lowers all foes Defense by 1! 5 if facing against ch2 Noelle somehow>A King's Dinner - Magically Produce a CHEESE. The CHEESE heals party member alot but can only be used MOUSE-type party members>RodentRaze - Rats bit and nibble the enemy. Deals weak MOUSE-elemental damage 5-7 times to one foe>Friends Together! - Changes a foe's TYPE to include MOUSE. (adds mouse ears and whiskers to enemy sprite)>DanceParty - During next bulletbox segment, a couple of greyed-out rats will spawn at the bottom of the box and dance. conveniently, this also makes the entire attack end 7% quickerMouse Wizard Spells>Brutal Mouse Spell 1 - Deal moderate MOUSE-elemental damage to one foe>Brutal Mouse Spell 2 - Deal moderate MOUSE-elemental damage to all foes (has different, spell-looking graphic)>Brutal Mouse Spell 3 - Deal moderate MOUSE-elemental damage to all foes 2-3 times
>>575417489Not everyone subscribes to your religious views
>>575417489You could just have that right now instead of at a theoretical point when youre dead
>>575417494
>>575417152we need Ralsei to remain a man, positive non-sexual femboy rep is real scarce these days and it'd be fucking devastating if he turns out to be trans because then the trans people will relentlessly tell femboys to transition into a woman for the rest of eternity, we cant give them that inch, Ralsei being a feminine boy and Susie being a masculine woman is the perfect rep and the perfect balance that mustn't be disturbed, otherwise, theyll just reinvent gender roles and regress us all into stereotypical gender roles
Ralsei will become trans, Toby Fox will do it, and I will finally have an excuse to never play the game again.
>Susie thinks Kris and Noelle are a thing>still goes for itWhat the fuck is her problem
no one ever says susie should transition why is it only ralsei
Noelle will transition into a Floradinn
>>575417678if ralsei becomes trans ill just cope by exclusively being a fan of chapter 1 hat ralsei
>>575417680Susie is quasi autistic, she doesn't really understand how socializing works.
>>575416914Well, that could be anybody's cursed sister
>>575417676"non sexual femboy rep" is crazy coming from someone who wont even dress feminine
SHUT THE FUCK ABOUT ABOUT TRANNIES
doe, a deer, a female deer
>>575417363Most of them insist that Kris has to be MtF with the exact same arguments that /v/irgins use to insist that Kris must have a penis, but in a woke way this time, so yeah, they don't really like nonbinary people
>>575417680Susie is a friendless loser, who never won at anything in her [[$4.99]] LIFE , and now she has a chance to be a [[BIG SHOT]]. Shooting your shot is completely understandable, even if not perfect.
>>575417680Noelle asked her out, man
>>575417801Hey I'm not talking about trannies
Galsei discourse really reminds me of marriage toxin's Kinosaki but even worse because Ralsei doesn't have fake boobs.
>>575417513He's a coward for skipping that third question
>>575417764Guys clearly it's Carol and the protagonist of Dragon Blazers is Carol's secret sister we've never heard anything about
>>575417932tricky tony was overstimulated and needed walkies please understand
>>575417737Susie is the only character in the entire game who is completely comfortable with who she is and her only issues stem from the fact that she is abrasive and sticks to her guns. She probably doesnt even know what a gender is. she's delusionally obsessed with dark worlds but it's only been a couple days and its literal fucking magic give her a break
>>575417513this screenshot hurts to look at every single fucking time
>>575417489You just want to fuck angels
>>575417932he couldn't answer it because he'd have to explain "why" and his autistic reasoning would inevitably relate to the fact that sans and papyrus have already universe-hopped which alters his decision (for example, he couldn't pick sans because such a thing happening to him again would be devastating) but he couldn't mention it because it's a deltarune plot point
>>575417932I think even Toby recognizes being forever roomies with either Sans or Papyrus would be nightmarish.
you guys were so nice last thread what changed
>>575417764Here's how Catty and Catti can still be relevant
>>575418112without any dessfags all these kris self inserters get very uppity
>>575416745Bridget's original story line literally doesn't fucking work with them being trans
>>575417986>Susie is completely comfortable with who she is...Are you sure about that
>>575418167Yeah I bet they'll just LOVE to insert themselves into Kris.
>Kris permanently closes castle town for good, saving the whole worldSusie:
>>575418220nta but what? Not liking who you are and feeling like you don't belong are totally different things.
>>575417528Spell Ideas 8>COPY MAGIC>32% TP Copy - use a simple damaging spell on one foe that matches the same TYPE as the enemy>??% TP Paste - Select a spell another Party member knows and use it if you have enough TP>40% TP Cut - Deals moderate COPY-elemental damage to one foe. Bypasses defense>50% TP New World - during next bulletbox segment, create copies of enemy that also fire their own non-damaging bullets. These bullets destroy enemy bullets>22% TP GeneticDupli - Select a foe and replace your TYPE with theirs for the duration of the battle. good for avoiding strengths and weaknesses>32% TP Regurgitate - Use a copy of the last consumable/healing item that was used on yourself
i love my lad ralsei
>>575418328>child with a loving family, home, and financial safety net rips away homeless girl's only loving shelter
>>575418328It will be fucking horrible when susie tries to remake castle town and its completely and utterly wrong on every level
>>575418328susie's gonna reopen castle town and this dark part is going to turn into one of those chapter 4 deep darkness segments where you have to navigate through the waves of your footsteps
this custom font is very neat anons
I don't CARE about Ralsei gender what matters is the MISSION *continues summoning anime studio ghibli food from the cauldron to feed to Flowery*
>>575418534She's not actually homeless although her parent(s) should probably lose custody for how indifferent they are to her running away
Do anyone know why people adding the Eggman's room to other games
>>575418717she is effectively homeless at that point since its likely no one in hometown even knows what her parents look like let alone have spoken to them about their missing daughter
Castle Town won't be closed because it's necessary for the postgame where you can play Super Pluey II Turbo and Ralsei Rancher for the rest of your life
>>575418717>>575418534I like the theory that Alphys is her legal guardian, and she utterly sucks at it, just like she sucks at everything else.
>>575418719because someone did it for link's awakening dx like a year ago then someone did it for pokemon fire red a couple of months ago and it kinda spiraled from there
>>575418952I think it also because of that one FireRed and LeafGreen hack
>We got a->Number One Victory Royale!>Deltarune, we 'bout to get down (get down)!>SnowGrave on the ACT right now>Just wiped out Castle Town>Noelle just got downed!>She was used up, now I'm headed south-bound!>Now I'm at the Shelter with a pistol>Looking at my PureCrystal>Take me to your Switch to play Deltarune today!>You can't take me to Flower King>I'm drowning in the lake!
>>575418353That was the most appropriate image I had on hand, but aside from Susie's general insecurity which has been pretty clear since Chapter 1>* Why would anyone.... really wanna be my friend anyway?Chapter 5 also makes it clear that she doesn't feel like she's good enough to be with Noelle>* What am I saying? This is all stupid...>* I can't... someone like me... it's not gonna work, right?Getting with Noelle shakes her up enough that she's willing to try wearing Ribbons because she thinks Noelle might like that (after rejecting whatever outfit you tried to put her in before the date)The lonely homely homeless girl being with the popular beautiful rich girl is going to feel inadequate no matter what
Does anyone have that giant required reading for Deltarune image? spoonfeed me please.
Top 3 characters with the best asses in deltarune, list them.
I didnt actually know Toby asked for the pokemon BW soundfont in exchange for composing some of sword and shield's soundtracks and ended up using the guitars for Flower man
let me present all the evidence ralsei isn’t trans1: in chapter 3 he says that he likes his face. you can argue that he has a feminine face, but noelle and asgore both chose asriel as the closest comparison, not toriel.2: in chapter 5 he says that he likes his voice3: the prophecy calls ralsei the prince, and up until now every line of the prophecy has been true, so we can assume ralsei will remain male in the future4: in chapter 5 is he is very upset when he is made to hide his face with the hat, and refuses to put the hat on even when susie forces kris to wear one, implying he likes how he looks and wants people to see his face.If you can think of more evidence, reply now!Counterarguments:>Ralsei wants the blue and pink drink!That’s not even the full colors of the flag. Is the american flag trans because it contains blue and white? >Flowery calls him princess!Flowery calls the other team members that too, and regardless has been trying to piss him off the whole chapter>Ralsei’s pronouns change at the end of the chapter!None of the chapter 5 titles have genders (because they’re plants and don’t have genders), and asgore has no idea who ralsei is
>>575419421>>575419436Damn, Rudy died twice
>>575419421>>575419436funny
>>575419416Did he say that?
>>575419421>>575419436Hivemind
So this unanimously agreed to be the best moment in the whole chapter right?
>>575419421>>575419436carolcord..
>>575419421anon remember to load the orig size of twitter imageshere's a userscript so if you open a twitter image in a tab it'll automatically load the orig size https://pastebin.com/raw/hhcHdDig
>>575419595No, the part where flowery smooches your cheek without consent is
>>575419371#1: netskie (can be any ass, plus fluffy fucking tail)#2: kris (flirts are highly effective, plus bodysuit to enhance it)#3: flowery (999 romance stat, but the stat might be fake depending on how strong you are)
>>575419371Pluey is canonically in the top 3
>>575418858what about Pluey Plumpener (18+)
>>575419371In terms of sheer size, the Cattenheimers probably beat everyone.
>>575419990i thought the implication was the battat mike suit had the huge ass
>>575419595No the best part is where the knight exposes Flowery as a fraud
so far so good
doefag meetup
>>575420018Toby's saving that one for Nutdealer
>>575419371#1 will always be Rouxls Kaard.
>>575420086Damn, we rocked Noelle's world
What the fuck happened to everyone?
>>575411720>>575412149tried drawing the spell animations for these spells. will probably sprite/animate them later
I kinda looove him
>>575419448>Is the american flag trans because it contains blue and white?red is just pink still in the closet if you think about it
>>575420531/v/ did a mass global ban of an hours old page 10 DR thread.
>>575420567literally why did kris choose that as the dialogue option
>>575419448Ralsei is a ghost possessing a broken toy
>>575420573turns out we did have the red "flower" after all
>>575420662it really is all out war against deltarune on /v/, they're leaving honeypot threads up just to catch more people.
>>575420689Kris's brain is shutting from all the shit they're doing all night long while fueled only by hershey's chocolate syrup.
damn
There have been multiple fanart and fanfiction instances of Flowery being depicted with a flat default ass, and it is tantalizing to me as both a fat ass lover and fetishist for stat changes
goth kris
>>575420689I wonder if canonically kris notices little things with us too. It must be pretty obvious we know sans somehow from their pov
>>575420818Found the specific image I had in mind
>>575420689Because they kinda looove him
Reminder that kris is a hopeless romantic with a psychopath inside of her
>>575421290
>>575415393Pink telling us that the “cats” are obsessed with protein shot the Meat Factory stonks into the roof
>>575421257surprised 99 butt is that smallthat looks more like a 20
>>575421495Hey why did Gaster designed the armor like this?
I derive pleasure from imagining /v/ jannies seething about their board getting owned by toby's freaking game
>>575421368kris is a hopeless psychopath with a sick and twisted romantic inside of him
post krisses that you find uniquely attractive
jarona man was a mistake
>>575421725t. roaring SISSY
>>575415393I've known that all the Undertale FUN value events are Deltarune related for years now, so i've just been waiting for the other soundtest songs to turn up. I wasn't really surprised and there didn't feel like much to talk about with it.
>>575421656my full name? it’s actually /v/s susie
>>575421495
>>575421697
did people forget that frans shippers were mainly teenage girls self inserting into frisk
post raly
>>575415393It's because a solid 80% of the fandom seriously hate the weird route. They are so fucking weird about it despite how cool it is
>>575422016impossible to not smooch
>>575422016impossible to catch feelings for this creature
>I'm Gaster, the greatest scientist ever!>And I did not reprogram this world to let you, and that HALITOSIS-RIDDLED DRAGON, take it away from me!
>>575417680Toby got into ntr while developing the chapters so he decided to make Susie a bull that cucks you at every turn
I LOVE DessKnight's butt out. I wanna spank it
>>575417794ralsei does dress femininely
It's hard for me just to grab a boobPlus my pingus got an attitude
>>575422123impossible to NOT catch feelings for this creature
>>575421697.
>>575422390*feelings of friendship for this creature
Did people who think Carol was referring to (you) the Player when she said "you" in red text even pay attention to the story?Why would Carol, who's seemingly trying to keep us away from the shelter codes, tell US, the one trying to get them and fuck up Kris's plan, that we're always welcome in her house?It would make no fucking sense for her to tell the soul it's always welcome in the house containing the shelter code she's trying to keep it away from
guess what? dess butt.
>>575422465Schizophrenia caused by people thinking the caller is Carol so they think Carol knows about the soul.
>Carol’s “theme” is the Christmasy part of Hometown but slowed down, thus it’s the Christmasy part of Happy TownRuh rohhttps://youtu.be/6z7x_hu4t4Yhttps://youtu.be/2_1JGqBPziI 1:27https://youtu.be/OpQai9BKW3E 1:48
>>575421193I wonder what they think about the player picking options related to their brother a lot, like naming Onionsan Asriel II.
>>575422394>>575422490Seeing Kris in pain makes me have such a motherly reaction. I need to comfort them.
I can’t believe Onion-san is fucking dead
>>575422465>"Look, SOUL, I don't want you fucking up our sacrifice plan, but if you ever want to get in my pants (you) can consider yourself invited"
>>575422579i'm not gonna watch your carol knight video spookydood
>>575422521Cheering. Thunderous applause. 1225 hour standing ovation. World peace declared. Ascension to a higher plane of existence imminent.
what if toby had to write onion out of the story so he wouldn’t get involved in the weird lake scene
>>575416914the "dragon" is satan. it's one of the beasts of revelations.>The dragon (later revealed in the text to be Satan)this is gasterThe beast of the sea (commonly interpreted as the Antichrist)this is the angelThe beast of the earth (later revealed in the text to be the false prophet)this is the pointed tail
Incrediblehttps://youtu.be/Ke-4xzig-IU
>>575417528Mouse magic spell animation ideas
>>575419448>3: the prophecy calls ralsei the prince, and up until now every line of the prophecy has been true, so we can assume ralsei will remain male in the futurethe theory's presented reason by the theorists is that the idea is that ralsei is gonna break the prophecy by transitioning into a woman (translation: trans people want to shove trans shit into the main cast and ralsei is the easiest target because they grab any self-identity struggles story and spin it into a trans thing even through its not a trans exclusive issue)>4: in chapter 5 is he is very upset when he is made to hide his face with the hat, and refuses to put the hat on even when susie forces kris to wear one, implying he likes how he looks and wants people to see his face.yknow, it's funny how the whole hat ralsei thing in ch5 is about people (represented through flowery) forcing ralsei to be something else despite his personal wishes and people still do the same shit anyways lol
>>575422662
>>575422465they're at the same level of reading comprehension as the billion people who think the knight is dess and that toby's story is that obvious.
>>575421697i know it's a garbage ship, but still...
>>575422662wrapping them up in their autism blanket (blanket with autism) and giving them a mug of hot chocolate and a big hug
If Toby didn't want people to tell him hat Ralsei looked better he shouldn't have made him look betterPutting dedicated scenes about how Ralsei hates being told to wear his hat/the hat is gone forever to totally own the complaining fans in every chapter after 2 was extremely gay on his part
>>575423035im sorry asrielknighter, you are above us all
>>575423056no ship is garbage if it truly makes you happy
>>575422490Where is Kris's shotgun?
>>575423159Worse, it's the friendgersonhumanspouseOCknightfag
>>575423150I think you are too easily offended
>>575423143would kris get overstimulated from a handjob
The withdrawal is kicking in, I just want chapter 6 and 7 now
>>575422858The player is naturally adept at mouse magic because you're MOUSE:HAND element
Honestly rookie move smoking while your parents are home and actively cooking
I can buy the Knight being some sort of Dess memory amalgam but I can’t see Dess actually being it, it follows the prophecy to a tee which doesn’t seem very Dess knowing what we know about her currently (she was rebellious) and her being the voice in the code makes way more sense.Unless Toby gives us a shit ton of info that gives us a reason to believe that Dess would want the prophecy to come to pass I just don’t see it happening.
>>575420086Hooray, Meat Factory!
>>575423143>>575423171>snuggling w/ them under their weighted blanket, stroking their hair as they breath into your chestpure bliss
>>575423541Controlled opposition is important to subverting the unsubvertable
>>575422912>the theory's presented reason by the theorists is that the idea is that ralsei is gonna break the prophecy by transitioning into a womanThat doesn't even make sense."THE THIRD HERO.THE PRINCE, ALONE IN DEEPEST DARK"Good news, Ralsei is not alone anymore. Prophecy broken!!!1!!!1!!The prophecy would not be broken if he stops being a prince.
is there a who's getting the best head fun gang version
>>575423159RK is the blackened knife, a "living sword". (a black knife, if you will)kris is the "knight with the blade""the knight which makes with blackened knife" is talking about kris specifically, and how they are working in tandem with the black knife to make the fountains. it's describing their partnership.the part about them dueling with heroes strife-by-strife should be obvious, kris being a party member and all.>>575423260no anon you are the schizo.
Ralsei trooning out to escape his role as the Prince would just mean he's setting up Lancer to die in his place and that would make everyone from either side of the transei debate INSTANTLY turn on him and do the weird route to kill him (because he's the final boss in it)
>>575423961>Susie-Noelle>Kris-Pink>Ralsei-Who, Flowery?
>>575423692
>>575423807The Knight cleaved Tenna and specifically waited until the Flower Man prophecy came true before kidnapping Asgore.There’s no reason to not believe that they aren’t an agent of fate at the moment.
>>575424089That one femanon
>>575423530If she just blew it out the window at least here was a chance of the smell of cooking covering it outside the room, but this dumbass was laying in bed smoking.
Kris is the knight The "Prince alone in deepest dark" is the Roaring Knight who is currently Asriel. The reveal of the prince not actually needing to be a darkner changed everything but no one has talked about it, whatever Ralsei is, he's not the prince from the prophecy but something that got forced to be by another forceThe cage with human soul and parts is the vessel which got scrapped in the intro
>>575423995>no anon you are the schizo.Are you genuinely trying to say you're not who I said you were WHILE posting an image_2026 filename
>>575423995I've thought about this a bit and the similarities of the art here with two hands encircling an object is interesting.It makes me think that the knife is similar to the soul. If the Knight is a darkner patterned off the memories of Dess like Gerson, what if she is a knife that was covered in the dust of Dess?
>>575424386I'm not the one tracking filenames to try to pinpoint specific posters like a schizophrenic autist.
>>575423541>it follows the prophecy to a tee which doesn’t seem very Dess knowing what we know about her currently (she was rebellious)I don't think the Knight is following the prophecy for the sake of following the prophecy. It seems more likely that the Knight is basically like a player who only cares about collecting all the Shadow Crystals so they can get the Twisted Sword, except with kidnapping victims instead of crystals and ??? instead of the sword. The main plot is just something they have to go through to get to the side content that's their real goal.
why is it so common for people to talk about the old undertale fandom like it was all just the cringy kids shipping themselves with sans and making scratch fangames and rarely acknowledge the actual adults at the time who made all the good shit?
>>575424089Clover
>>575423541name a single character that doesn't follow the prophecyIf you don't like the idea of Dess willingly following it like ralsei, why not just imagine her unknowingly following it in pursuit of her own goals?
>>575424089Vessel
>>575424551Asgore would be a threat if left alone though, he was digging too deep.As would Undyne, that’s probably why they took her. She saw it.
>>575424504It's not just the filenames, I can tell it's you by the specific flavor of braindead smugposting you doThe filename is just a confirmation that I always get every time I figure it's you
>>575411543Aaaah, flower cunny! Getting Aqua to strip naked! Fingering her and playing with her clit until she has an orgasm! Getting Aqua to suck my dick after! Aqua biting down hard enough to make my dick bleed but that ends up making me cum even harder!
>>575423541believing noelle was the original girl in the prophecy solves all of this
>>575421569He'd need to limit break it first by upgrading his other body weight stats. Maybe reallocating some other stats to be lower to get enough points, like his intelligence and cock girth
>>575424754it's easy to be smug when the UT/DR fanbase is retarded.
>>575424717The whole chapter 3 dark world was set up to drag Toriel and Undyne into it. Maybe you could argue that Toriel was unavoidable, but she was also asleep the whole time and the Knight didn't really seem interested in kidnapping her given what we've seen of its abilities. Undyne was brought there on purpose to be kidnapped despite having no prior involvement.
>>575424875Oh so the whole Final Tragedy being Susie being killed as the Girl instead of Noelle angle?
>>575424875How so
>>575422465Why would Carol stop Kris to tell them "As you know, YOU are welcome here any time," something that they obviously know because they're "secretly" working together.Kris knows that You are watching and listening. Carol is working with Kris and has a fixation with [Heart-Shaped Objects]. Carol knows about the SOUL. Carol knows that You are watching and listening, which is why she communicates with Kris over the phone with her voice obscured.Delivering a thinly veiled threat to "Kris" with an evil sneer on her face is not an invitation, it's a warning. "Don't fuck with me."
>>575423541yeah i don’t buy the idea that it is literally dess but brainwashed and evil or possessed or something. I like to think of it as akin to a dustner where it’s a creature made from a specific kind of darkness, albeit one specifically tied to the holidays. I’ve been running either the idea that the darkness comes from noelle because a lot of things start to make sense for me and there’s no way ramb wasn’t talking about her when he mentioned “that girl”
Why do we have multiple extremely smug schizos with niche theories that contradict each other, and yet they never fight one another for our amument?
>>575424938This >>575424926explains why Kris would be emotionally blackmailed, explains the knights motivation regardless of who it is, explains Carol, and you get that slowly building turmoil with Kris coming to like and eventually love Susie.
Which Deltateen would perform best in a Halo 3 lobby?
Wang that dang!
>>575425071I literally have no idea who you’re talking about.
>>575424889is minmaxing a fetish now
>>575424921>despite having no prior involvement.Undyne was "investigating" the Shelter with Carol. She was a loose end, and knew Asgore's Shelter code.>* the shelter...? right... undyne had been in charge of something about that>* an important code or some thing... it was the only thing that ever made her nervous>* But, I will say, I've only ever seen a couple people head over there.>* ... Undyne... and the mayor.
>>575425086I guess Susie not being the original "girl" hero would explain why Gerson called her the dragon
Post happy, smiling krises
>>575425086Why did the Knight make a dark world that Noelle and Berdly would be unavoidably dragged into if they wanted to protect Noelle from prophecy shenanigans?
Pic unrelated but people who draw Noelle with blue eyes don't sit right with me.I know what you are
>>575425327
>>575425071Schizos don't profit by eating each other.They have go after the big dogs for credibility.And be cast down, like all the rest before them.
>>575425337The girl still needs someone to fall in love with, and Noelle was fine
>>575425362Now this is a mentally ill post
>>575425362Why
>>575425251Why didn't they kidnap Carol then? If you think the Knight is working with Carol, then why did Carol allow Undyne to get close to the shelter in the first place? Why didn't Carol just tell Undyne and Asgore to go to the shelter and then trap them there instead of kidnapping them?
>>575425337It doesn't matter if Noelle is there, it just matters if everyone (ESPECIALLY you) recognize the hero is Susie.
>>575425114Jockington without it being even a little close, despite never having touched the game once beforehand
>>575425114Susie was raised in the fires of xbox live voice chat and tryhard Halo 3 SWAT lobbies and would calm down with games of COD4.
>>575425071because schizo theorists are friends
>>575425243Pretty sure it's been on /d/ for a while along with RPG mechanics erotic isekai and shit.What's nice is that it can go along with a whole host of other fetishes too, anything involving transformation or alteration.Someone posted here not too long ago about the fetish of characters shitting their soul/mind out through slime, and it's not quite my tempo but it did make me laugh imagining Tenna producing his slime like that, trying to get rid of his gloobyness.
>>575425567I don't think susie would have an xbox for more than 3 days before her dad sells it for crack
Did anyone save the spy trolling remixes before he deleted them?
>>575425636I can't believe Susie's dad ate her XBOX
>>575423827i know, but it's basically the practical excuse thrown around for the theory
Susie's lowlife degenerate abusive father (Scientist Gaster) vs. her other father (Forgotten Man Gaster)
>>575425396genuinely, pop deltarune theories are batting close to 0 so far and it's been 8 years. people have enough time between chapters to get strung along into wrong theories and then have to cope by refuting character dialogue like the knight's helmet/dess leaving, or blatant setups like rudy dying.
I really really like the Friend replacement theory explanation for why Jockington has been deteriorating and being weirdly prophetic ever since Chapter 2
>>575425757personally I like theorycrafting but I'm glad when they're wrong and it's executed well, and Toby has a perfect record on that
Tenna compares Kris to the Smurfs because they are small and blueSmurfing is the act of an experienced player playing a multiplayer game from a new account to match with real low level playersIs this an ultimate brain blast or just a funny coincidence?
>>575425816>my tumour grew back (it’s benign, but still)Blue. Blue please.
>>575425492Color theory, mostly
Is it worth sacrificing my 2 Scarlixirs and the Powerband and Mystic band to create Punch Bowl and Tension Max?
Nah bro…
>>575426059nothing in this game is hard enough to warrant bricking the "have one of everything" streak
>>575426025I don't get it can you explain why it's bad if they're blue because of color theory and such
Dess probably has blue eyes just like how she has Carol’s antlers
>>575426000I just find it baffling how people can be so sure despite being wrong 90% of the time. Toby is going to do batshit plot twists like the knight is grillby, that ralsei is a ghost monster inhabiting kris' phone, etc. and that's just how its gonna be.
>>575426115nah to who?>>575426156I'm sorry, could you clarify?
>>575426251yea but what if I'm right though (this time)>>575426258In my opinion the only fights you really need TP for are RK and Pink, and at that point I'd rather just have the powerband and mystic band looking pretty in my inventory
i just realized FRIEND is essentially a cheshire cat
Do Krisfags just not come around here anymore or something.
>>575426013dont forget to get the usual cancer treatments
>>575426438Wow gj anon you're 4 years late. Give it a few years and you'll realize it's one of the blooks.
>>575426438>Just
>>575425494>Why didn't they kidnap Carol then?...>If you think the Knight is working with Carol, then why did Carol allow Undyne to get close to the shelter in the first place?Carol would not have had all three Shelter codes initially and would have needed Undyne's cooperation to do her investigating.>Why didn't Carol just tell Undyne and Asgore to go to the shelter and then trap them there instead of kidnapping them?She's positioned herself as "the mastermind" and has made an effort to avoid any direct involvement unless absolutely necessary. She could have easily called Noelle or Asgore and reminded them that nobody is allowed in Dess's room to keep Susie away from it, but that would have drawn attention and suspicion to herself (and her Code). She trusted Kris to handle it discreetly instead.She could have told Undyne to come to the Shelter at night and had The Knight grab her there, but maybe Undyne tells Napstablook or Alphys where she's going and suddenly it gets out that "The Mayor and Undyne were investigating that old Shelter again last night... and Undyne didn't come back..."There are also other things going on here that we can't be sure about. The Knight had to kill Tenna that night according to The Prophecy, so taking Undyne while you're there is double duty. We also have no idea what the fuck "police sacrifice" is about or why it's necessary.
>>575426369ok then, already completed Roaring knight, and, I'm hoping Pink is much easier to deal with, other than waiting for the patch that gives an optional nerf to her bomb attacksthough out of curiosity, after the Pink battle, what gear should I spend the remaining pink coins on?
>>575426445I'm glad, the newfag that melted down trying to police kris's pronouns pissed me off. so did the fat fuck that had a piss fetish
>>575426598>fat fuck who had a piss fetishwho?
>>575426572Carol being the knight makes terrible narrative sense because it doesn't explain her house being a fortress and is beaten by better concepts like how the knight would need kris to get in said fortress for the guitar code.
>>575426369>>575426581but yeah the fusions aren't worth it huh?
>>575426438Chesha but even more resistant to rape
>>575426581Pure stats wise Orange's gloves are the best. The rest are kind of up to what you like. I chose Aqua's knife for the +2 defense and Yellow's hat for the spell buff, but Green's apron has heal on defend so it's probably 2nd. There's no wrong answer
>>575426258“Nah bro…” is referring to one of Kris’s dialogue options during the ralsei dress scene
>>575426694??????Kris doesn’t want us to get the codes.
>>575426179It's not "bad," it just doesn't fit her color schemeYou could make it work by shifting it to be more complimentary to her scheme but by that point it won't be a bright blue anymore
>>575426438>a cheshire cat that blocks you from getting to the sort of dead girl with a problematic age gap
>>575426725>There's no wrong answer...except for SethSpecs
>>575426791Yeah because kris already got them for himself and the knight. He doesn't want US AND SUSIE to get the codes.
>>575426881they just want your "protein"
>>575411543Do you think Deltarune will do the same thing as Undertale where you have to do the "good" route twice to get the true ending? And that's why every chapter has Noelle inventory text when she's not even in the party, and why that Kris savepoint exists at all?
>>575426835I feel like it fits because Warmer fur color from Rudy+Cold blue eyes from CarolAlso they just look coolBut Idrc anyway because sprite-accurate black eyes rule more
>>575427032There's only 1 ending, little bro
>>575426694>Carol being the knight makes terrible narrative senseYeah, nobody's arguing that. The Knight and Kris are both working with/for Carol.>the knight would need kris to get in said fortress for the guitar code.?????The Knight obviously already has all the Shelter codes, they're using it as their base.If anything, The Knight is the one guarding the Holiday house from intruders.
>>575427032I think Deltarune’s going to be more of a journey rather than the destination kind of story.Like we’re probably all fucked but that doesn’t mean our choices never mattered. They did matter to people, we had an impact on them.
>>575424968>Carol knows that You are watching and listening, which is why she communicates with Kris over the phone with her voice obscured.Except how do the characters know what we know and what we don't know? How does Carol know that using a voice distorter can fool us and that we don't somehow already know it's her?
>>575427032anyone thinking that Toby's going to remake the entire game to include Noelle in every Chapter is completely insane
Why is CarolKnight le bad again I forgot
>>575427082Question mark
Just a reminder that most knight theories are dead In the water as of chapter 5 because Kris and the knight have the same color for their dark worlds. There are or was more than one knight because the original fountain was opened by someone else. I guess It's possible the roaring knight title was passed down or that the current roaring knight Is a fake replacing the original but either way most current knight theories Ignore this moment completely.
>>575427249idk but its cool
>>575427249Logistics, unless bitch can use fast travel
>>575427303It’d be kinda predictable but honestly I wouldn’t care it’s cool
>>575426438Yeah but have you listened to Alice by Pogo?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAwR6w2TgxY
>>575427227>I'm so alone, nigga...
>>575424473yknow it could literally be dess's body or some other thing with kris's mysteriously missing human soul because they are really just not a red soul type of personkris could be the knight for all we knowthe vessel could be the cagethe prophecy is intentionally vague so you can probably just slot anyone in like with the undertale prophecy
>>575427302This is confusing because we still don’t know how the differing colours work exactly, if Kris and the Knight working together gave them the same “will” wouldn’t it make sense that their fountain colours match up?The biggest wrench it really threw into everything is the Knight potentially predating Dess “leaving”.
>>575427302having a similar dark world lends credence to dessknight due to them being close, and even then, if I was the roaring knight in this scenario, I would concentrate on wanting a dark world that's the exact same so as not to displace asgore so I can steal them
>>575427487Aqua pretty heavily implies that Kris had a Cyan soul.Kris being blue in the Dark World would make sense if that were the case.
>ask Netskie to turn into the final boss>turns into Kris
>>575427249Doesn't make for an interesting final boss for Susie or Ralsei or really even Kris
>>575427032Noelle's reactions to some inventory items makes no sense if she's there for that chapter's events. It's more likely that she'll temporarily rejoin the party at some point and needs reactions for anything the player could possibly still have on hand.
>>575427303I'm really excited for the Knight reveal more so from the thought that we'll finally see the character's personality mask come off rather than who it actually is. Hearing a manic Holiday parent monologue with them likely talking directly to (Us) throughout would be so cool
>>575427062That's part of it for me tooYou kinda have to go out of your way to color her eyes a specific color and blue just seems like the worst choice imo
>>575427176We don't know, but they know.There aren't really rules for what we can and can't know, if we can read Noelle's mind then we could know who's on the phone. There was nothing stopping us from going through Kris's phone and seeing any communication with Carol before, but we simply didn't have the option to do that, and once it became relevant Kris wiped their phone so it was no longer a possibility. This is just how the story plays out.At the very least, everyone who knows about You (except Kris) is committed to a certain kayfabe of how to act around You.
>>575427735Carol has had one scene anonWe know more about Dess then Carol at this point
>>575427754holiday parents would monologueasriel is a nerd he'd monologueonly dess can be the prodigal vagueposter and just scream "fuck you!" and run away
>>575427302>I guess It's possible the roaring knight title was passed downCyclical prophecy is still viable in my opinion
If Carol is the Knight I want the rematch theme to be a cross between Black Knife and Umbral Ultimatum
>>575424359dude he's literally in college>>575427302we dont know what the knight is made of and what causes black shards to appearits pretty possible the knight isnt really necessary for them or whatever was necessary was created on that horrible day>>575427548you cant just concentrate on it being the same though, look at susie's>>575427754i think either rudy or dess would be peak
>>575427923That was susie's first time opening a dark fountain I think the knight would be a little more slick with it
>>575427747She also gets statuses like "things got serious today."
>>575427923>you cant just concentrate on it being the same though, look at susie'sSusie has different goals than Kris and the Knight so it makes sense that their wills aren't the same
>>575428017That only happens in chapter 5 though
>>575427747yeah I really hope she’s temporary honestly the fun gang is kris, susie, ralsei, and maybe lancer. Noelle can fuck off
>>575428302y u no like noelle?
>>575427109>Kris, it's no secret the, er, police in this town are...>* Err... how do I put this... Just... um...>* Eye candy, I guess?>* W-wait, th-that came out wrong!>* I mean they're s-symbolic! They barely do anything!>* It's because of the mayor, there... there...>* There isn't any crime.>* Makes me wonder if she even needs the police...>* Or if they're just... g... getting in her way?>* ... eheh sorry. I'm just saying what you already know.>* After all, she's...>* Your neighbor, right?That could easily have been Carol that scared the shit out of the bandits.
>>575428379shes annoying, ugly, and she’s getting in the way of krusie
>>575428478>blaming Noelle for Susie’s ignorance
am i in hell? are we in helll, chara? i find myself, asking this question. maybe it's not so bad though, being in hell, if it's with someone you love. i think everything seems to be a whole lot better, actually, when it's with someone you love. don't you think so, chara? the inky blackness, hollow wind blowing, nothing, nothing, and more nothing.. it's not so bad, with you. you and me, forever. that's not so bad at all. just think about that. just think about it. and nothing else. focus your mind...
heres my crack theory anonsdess is actually the original girl from the prophecy, kris was the cage (we're told they did the soul ripping out thing previously)dess's disappearance is due to the fact that she made kris do the weird route with her but since they know it's impossible to ever prevent the prophecy from happening forever they want to basically use susie as prophecyfodder since she'll die or something since otherwise the next girl probably would have been noelle
>>575427808Fair, fair.
>>575427249Carol is the one giving orders on the phone and it doesn't make sense for her to be the ringleader and the Knight.Carol is at home with Noelle when the Church fountain is made with The Knight already waiting for you inside.The Knight being present at the "original Dark World," where we assume Dess disappeared, makes the idea that Carol or Rudy is The Knight nonsensical.>>575427302>Kris and the knight have the same color for their dark worlds.>the original fountain was opened by someone else1. Asgore's line is completely ambiguous, he's saying it like he hasn't experienced the phenomena himself before and heard it from someone else, or forgot what it was like the first time. And it doesn't help that he's apparently looking at his arm hair, which did not actually change color2. We don't know who opened the "original" Fountain. The black shard places The Knight at the scene, making them the most obvious suspect, which is what Ralsei and Susie assume.3. In the likely case that Kris or Dess made the original Fountain, it's entirely possible and even likely that their "will" has changed in the years since they were a younger child, and the characteristics of their Dark Worlds have changed with it.>>575427923>we dont know what the knight is made of and what causes black shards to appearIt would be an incredibly shitty hack "twist" for Toby to throw out the red meat of "here's direct evidence of The Knight involved with whatever happened years ago," something he had to pull Asgore finding a black shard completely out of his ass to set up, only to walk it back with "lol just kidding that came from somewhere else and The Knight had nothing to do with it"
>shipfags don’t know that the throuple stuff is foreshadowingTrust the plan
My headcanon Is everything that Kris did was for Noelle and keeping her out of the dark world and prophecy was the goal. Susie 100% took her place In the prophecy and it will end with her death Instead of Noelle's but Kris growing so close to Susie has made them decide they don't want to live when it is all over.
>>575428534NOELLE IS A HOMEWRECKER
>>575428840stfu catti
>>575428750>Carol is at home with Noelle when the Church fountain is made with The Knight already waiting for you inside.Oh true, I didn’t think of that.
>>575424854so true aquaking
>>575428772I thought everyone basically took Kralsusie and Kruselle for granted
>>575428379she said "excheese me?" unironically she deserves to be roadkill
>>575428750to be honest anon im a dessknighter and i think whatever happened that made whatever the knight is and the black shard stuffso the knight was there but not the way it is in presenti really dont believe its actually a person in a suit of armor
where the fuck are my cheezy points noelle
>>575424854>>575428891>>575428839STOP THAT
>>575428860catti would blame susie not noelle
Hello anon, I've come to kill your krusie
>>575428772>>575428928the throuple thing would work better if susie and noelle didnt push kris away to dyke out together and just included them in their thing instead of running off when kris falls asleep
>>575429025You got a problem with human girls who have three eyes?
>>575428994She deserves to be protected and taken care of under MY wing*
>>575429121To be fair it’s Kris’s fault for not saying or doing anything without (Us)My big brain take is that Kris doesn’t want to get involved because of the Final Tragedy being The Girl dying.
>>575429204its 100% the girl dying
Dess ass on my face
>>575429159Wonder how the anon would handle humans with four adorable eyes, bitch about to have their world turned upside down.
>>575427887I still think Dess would be cool too, but differently than her parents in that her monologue would be a lot more personal to Kris while pertaining to how her transformation affects her body and her personal motivations with a lot less focus on talking to (You). Since we've never actually met her I don't think she'd have a figurative "mask-off" moment like her parents would, which I think I'd personally prefer. Would be interesting to see her argue directly with Susie as she's been the most openly hostile to the Knight thus far and seemingly mirrors her in a lot of ways
>Erm, exCHEESE me?!
>>575429185Buh buh buh baaased.
>>575429281the knight basically acts like susie would act if she was the knight, if you think about it
>>575429268On OUR face, man... Or I can take the front if you like...
>>575413539I wonder if Toby gonna make a recap for new players who held off on playing Deltarune until Chapter 7.
>>575429317I'm glad The Girl is dying
I’m still wondering what the elemental pair alongside Rude is
>>575428839>My headcanon Is everything that Kris did was for Noelle and keeping her out of the dark world and prophecy was the goal.My two big problems with this are1) The Prophecy is presented as immutable but if a swindle as big as replacing one of the Heroes had already been accomplished, it doesn't make sense for Ralsei and Kris to be such doomers about changing it further2) Kris and Ralsei don't really seem to have a problem with Noelle being involved with the Dark World, outside of the Weird Route. It's not treated like a problem in Chapter 2, Cyber World even seems to have been created specifically for Noelle. Ralsei is helping Susie roll out the welcome mat for Noelle in Chapter 6 with a smile on his face, Kris isn't happy about it but that can easily be explained by everything else going on that's isolating them. If Noelle's life was at risk you'd think they'd be calling Carol at the end of the chapter instead of just sulking about it.
>>575413539we had a normalfag anon this or last thread who answered some of this stuff
>>575429503Red?
>>575429507the prophecy doesnt name names though so if someone fit as the girl there's really no reason you couldn't just slot em inwho says kris is a doomer anyway when they're actively working with the knight to do something related to it anyway?
Found a fem kris design on the side if anyone wants to procure>Linkhttps://files.catbox.moe/hn5dfg.jpg
>>575429507>Kris doesn't have a problemDoesn't he force himself to mumble if you try to tell Noelle the truth in the normal route?
Kralsusellettidly
>>575429507It's possible Ralsei doesn't know. He can't tell the difference between the Soul and Kris most of the time.And even then... the save in the castle town dark world is there. It's entirely plausible ralsei and kris talked before the events of the game, and Ralsei answers to Kris first and foremost.Not saying it's infalliable but there are answers to cover those bits if need be.
all im saying is if the entire prophecy thing is actually set in stone and you cant do shit about it at all and all the people in it are pre ordainedwhy the fuck is kris doing anything at allwhy is the knight doing anything at allliterally why bother, just afk, the outcome will be the same regardless
as the years go bykrusie will never die
>>575430131you can change the ending if you do things that don’t go against the prophecydidn’t play chapter 4 award
>>575430131you ever see that one gumball episode where the banana lady paints the future and gumball tries to avoid it by sitting still all day but everything results in him doing the thing anywayi'm not trying to argue your post it just reminded me of that
>>575430213ralsei is fucking retarded and wrongalso slotting someone else in doesn't go against the prophecy at all, you literally just made that up>>575430264yah and in the end he just gives up and does exactly what's in the prophecy because it'd happen anyway so might as well get it over with
Oh mah god bruh what da FUCC
>>575430518Frisk and the frisklers
>>575430523>when the december is missing
>>575430484>thinks i was talking about ralsei and not gerson
>>575428839Crazy to imagine Kris changed from basically holding Susie in contempt and not caring she dies to being jealous over Noelle for getting Susie's affection.
I don’t think the fuzzycwitterfags are readyA storm is approaching
>>575430903Vergil Knight... Of course...
I think it might be possible that the literal actual series of events in the last half hour of the game are immutable and play out basically the same way no matter what the player did while the actual climax, final boss and events leading up to it will still differ on each route. It would hit pretty hard if you got a big sappy final setpiece where all your darkner friends/berdly/whoever get involved and banish the angel but it still fails to stop Kris/Susie/Noelle from being killed or the world being remade or whatever it is that has to happen
>>575430903>>575430941December would absolutely blast Bury the Light at full volume and make that her new battle theme
>>575430131Didn't Flowery encourage you not to blindly believe in the prophecy?
>>575413539I'm not a normalfag per say but I played all the chapters in one week (played chapter 1 eight years ago though). I've been looking at some of the theories, but this is what I got playing through:>What do you think the plot is?Standard route will be normal, but a character will die, most likely Susie as a sacrifice. The whole story is obviously about prophecy and whether you can bend fate by exchanging/ inhabiting new roles. Even Susie starts learning to heal, which I think is playing around with this idea. The weird route, though I haven't played it, is the theme done in the extreme. It's pushing the boundaries of trying to subvert the role you have been given, which puts strain on the prophecy and reality (which can't be changed). The outcome I think for the weird route is that Susie's life is saved at big cost.>Who do you think the Knight is?It probably won't be revealed and stay as theory bait, and implied to be many things including the Kriselle theory.>What's up with the shelter?Only the final dark fountain area.>What's up with Dess?I don't think she will ever be addressed, left to for the fans to theorize about.
>>575430903I'm ready for anything.
>>575431052Play the Weird Route.
>>575430956does this mean that you would still get the singular happy ending for doing the weird route or that you get le ebic singular bad ending where you die even when doing a full recruits pacicuck route?
>>575431052play the weird route, anon! it's part of the experience especially since getting the good ending isnt as clearcut as it may first seem to an undertale player
>>575431052Why do you want the game to conclude without answering anything at all
Hi. I’m stuck on undyne the undying. Tips?
>>575431119I think the full weird route might supercuck you by flagging your save and be super grim leading up to the ending but if the idea really is one fixed ending then I can't help but wonder if the intended emotional effect is the player feeling despair and longing after going far out of their way to avoid whatever is supposed to happen and still being unable to change it even after getting all the shadow crystals/proceeding/recruiting every darkner/eggs
Aw fuckWhat the fuck?I'm not even supposed to BE here!I hope I don't JACK OFF
Prediction for chapter 7: Napstablook and Mettaton will be worried about Maddie's whereabouts.
If Carol knows about the soul then why is she okay with it interacting with her daughter? Is she stupid? The human soul will casually turn into giga Hitler just to get three new lines of dialog.
>>575431104>>575431226I probably will but I would feel bad.>>575431481The game could conclude things, but I reckon it will keep things open for interpretation so the fanbase can discuss.
wait guys stand back I think he is gonna have a thought
Guess what. Queen is the roaring knight. It’s been confirmed.
I think Weird Route is mostly concerned about being a character study of Kris and Noelle and the types of people that allow themselves to be controlled, i.e. the Nobody Can Choose Who They Are In This World and Your Love Becomes Theirs Their Love Becomes Yours side of the plot rather than the prophecy side of the plotNot least of which because we're getting to do it before seeing the end of the prophecy
>>575431653Equip the glasses
i dont know whats going to happen in this game its 90 degrees outside im scared and lonely and hungry and my back hurts and i want toplay chapter 6 already and i think the light is running really fuckimg low
>>575431653use the torn notebook and cloudy glasses for a massive boost to i-framesstock up on cinnamon bunniesand most importantly of all, don’t use the pie or the snowman pieces, you will want them for sans
just realized I do not have a single solo seth picture saved
>>575431943I tried the notebook and glasses and they sucked ass. Also, sans is just papyrus with a gun. I don’t get why people say he’s so hard to beat, the hard part is his first move.
>>575431939Chapter 6 will be delayed until we get a device with the power to convert video game pain into real pain.And do you live in Vegas? Holy shit.
>>575432096>don’t get why people say he’s so hard to beat, the hard part is his first move.The karma is so annoying to deal with
Will Chapter 6 finally reprise Susie's themes or will Robert keep blue balling us for another two years
>>575432195I bet you got the “doomed to death of KARMA” message
>>575430789i played the chapter anonbut like you realize that, eventually, you're gonna have to go against the prophecy, right? even if you wait till the final tragedyi just think that everyone is fighting it in their own way, and that ralsei's and susie's aren't just gonna work, don't really think kris and the knight are gonna get a good ending eitherbut don't get me wrong anon, i'm still getting mine
>>575432286they'll reuse vs. susie verbatim in a non-fight where she gets oneshotted by snowgrave
I believe in Carol x Dess yuriI call it "Caress"
TO SAVE THE WORLDS, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY.THE BARNEY, THE DOE MUST SNOWGRAVE.ONLY THEN, WILL THE WORLDS BE SAVED.
>>575432340“stories can be retold. they can be changed! that’s what i believe.”
Queen is the roaring knight
im the roaring knight
I've never actually played Undertale and it's not really worth it anymore since I basically know everything
>>575432618Hey, queen, your battle theme brings me to tears.
THE ROARING KNIGHT RAPED ME!!!
>>575432662Larperfaggot
>>575432543can you really fault me for forgetting that one when it's kinda obvious what gerson believes
>>575432662Play the fucking game you scum.>erm but I heckin watched it and got spoiled-Play it.
i’ve never played deltarune but i’m gonna talk about the prophecy like i’m actually worth hearing
>>575432662Trust me anon, I felt the same way.I still missed like half the stuff in the game
Deltarune thread before:>Fans discussing the gameDeltarune thread now:>Uhm... I didn't play the game actually tee-hee
>>575432662it sucks dr is better
I love rapeRaping is goodSaid everyone in Hometown collectively
>>575432874glad you played the game and got what toby was trying to say
>>575432874including asgore's 7 flowers??
>>575432807Deltarune thread then:>Fans discussing the gameDeltarune thread now:>Fans still discussing the game and getting their larping asses upset because of two posts
>>575432967You don’t know what that word means.
>>575432996No, no, they’ve got a point.
>>575432967how is talking about deltarune larpingam i pretending to be gerson when i’m saying the story can be changed
>>575432774Undertale doesn't even have challenging fight's except Genocide. You can easily fight Sans in a browser which only leaves Undyne. A single fight is the only experience I would actually get out of it>>575432794I honestly doubt that
>>575433176there’s an undyne simulator too>>575433208i say this and smell like this but i don’t look like this, except when i say it i’m less polite in my language
AAAAAAAAA I MADE A SPELLING MISTAKE ON MY AWESOME COMEBACK POSTi always fuck it up whenever it actually matters
>real larping
>fahaha kris everyone knows real fans of dragon blazers have memorized the script
I bet real people give Undertale bad ratings because they couldn’t fuck sans
>>575433462i say this and smell like this but i don’t look like this, except when i say it i’m less polite in my language
>>575432662It's still on sale for like 2 dollars and it's more or less 8-10 hours of your timeJust do it
If you don't know what an Elder Puzzler is your save is bricked
>>575432195you sound like the kind of player to heal up while the HP is still ticking down instead of waiting until it goes down so that the healing is at its most effective
Forbidden ship: Rudy x Toriel
GuysChapter six isn’t happening. This is shown in the weird route ending of chapter five.
>>575433737Toriel raped Rudy at a church party one time for no other reason than to cuck Asgore for trying to solve Dess's disappearance
>>575433824I don't know what is wrong with me, but for some reason my first assumption was that Asgore is being cucked because Rudy is fucking someone else
Good morning
>>575434058>crops your image so that only orange is visiblenuthin personnel kid
>>575433824Then toriel got raped by the roaring knight, because the roaring knight is asgore.
>>575431774lol i was watching that video a few hours back
>kris will fumble this
Once you fall to the trash zone during genocide you can’t get back upSo get the tutu and shoes while you can
>>575426725>There's no wrong answerWe're about to get Ralsei's ultimate weapon, don't take the shoes>Pure stats wise Orange's gloves are the bestIt's only a couple DEF more than the NetskieHat and it'll fall off even more next chapter>Apron>Hat>Specsis the only way to go>>575426885How come? It's a second Dealmaker (or first Dealmaker in the case of drowned weird)
>>575434281>design a cute girl>call it a ????yes I know Seth's concept art drawn by Toby is ugly as sin but the cute sprites are what made it into the actual game (canon) and he must have approved it Why does Toby keep doing this?
I don't feel like digging for it but I swear I saw a version of this edited with Carol and Asgore's (and Rudy's) talksprites at some pointhttps://youtu.be/BRYrUaqbCygI might just remake it myself if I can't find it
>>575434468the sprites look the same as his art
>>575434121Yeah Pink would crop it herself and allow Ory the spotlight she's a gracious oneesan like that.
>>575434378>We're about to get Ralsei's ultimate weapon, don't take the shoesNice head canon
>>575434613Pink is a yasashii onee-san who teaches Orange about friendship and good manners so she would not do that
i would protect them
>>575434792That's not bad manners, she'd be just zooming on Orange to show everyone how crazy cute her mousy imouto looks in that maid dress, like a proud parent showing pictures of their kid.
deltarune gacha would go so hard
>>575435164into the trash yeah.
>>575435163my majestic prince
>>575435206
>>575435164Toby would never
In game Seth is also ugly to be honest. It's just that Toby Seth is the worst design of all time so comparatively it's ok
What if Susie ruined our date on purpose because while she doesn't want to date us she also doesn't want us dating others?
>>575435501I don't think Susie has that level of cunning
>>575435164
>>575435594That's what she wants you to think!
>>575435529
hello hello chat
>>575435667good morning how are you
>>575435298the most beautiful
Lick queen abs
>>575435069I like seeing fanart of Kris in outwardly feminine outfitsNot in a creepy perverted way, I just think it's neat since it's more common to see them in masculine clothes in fanart, or at least it feels that way
>>575433462Honestly though this is such a weird cope, why has it gained traction at all?It’s like the people who use it can’t simply admit that they’ve forgotten something or didn’t know about something.
>>575435715doing well thank you :D
>>575435529Corrupt safety inspector 拉尔钦塞 putting a ching chong curse on the lazy rat for missing her sweatshop productivity quota
>>575434468he looks even worse with the stupid buck teeth
>>575435667hey ralseibro
>>575436017howdy
sex with fictional characters that remind you of your real-life significant other
>>575436061Very true!
>>575436187
>>575436059Have it as an MP4, twitter's gif compression is so terrible, all those websites ruin the quality even further.
>>575436294concerning
>>575436317thanks man
>>575436061I heartily agree!
>>575436315
>>575436294what about aqua reminds you of your partner?
thinking about this image a lot
>>575436187I like this artist but I kinda loathe seeing Maddie with real human ears that shit is just wrong, if you're gonna pull something like this make damn sure the cat ears look like a headband.
>>575436524
I have to go out and buy groceries... I have to do it... for ralsei...
>>575436757he’ll be proud of you anon
>>575435786because the people they're talking to treat forgetting something as not having played the game at all
>>575436061Dess because she doesn't exist
>>575436757Do it for fave anon.
>>575436535It's Asgore trying to help Kris in ways they needed as a young child because he hasn't been raising them for like a decade that makes this image run amok rent free in my headAlso Ralsei's expression
>>575436838Things took a weird route right now…
i feel kris is male but i'd prefer if they weren't
>>575437004just headcanon them as intersex or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hGvE2ZWE7w
>>575437004they're desexed
homestuck is kinda like utdr if it had bad art
i think i'm finding my balance between practice and drawing i'm gonna get good so fast now
>>575437004kris is like one out of a thousand sexes that fungi have and it's just left up in the air
>>575437004kris has a thousand sexes
>>575437004My Deltarune headcanon is that Kris misgenders us (the player)
>>575437486what's the difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItsArdgnH5w
Been listening to a lot of Undertale Yellow's soundtrack latelyOh no... I kind of want to replay it now...
is practicing just drawing a bunch of boxes and circles and adult male skulls
>>575437850practicing is drawing fave millions of times
>>575436526>doesn't know how to act normal in social situations>enjoys playing all the time without breaks>gets bored easily>says what's on her mind without any filters>talks weird>will kill you by accident even if you're a friendIf she gets to compare me with Seth I get to compare her with Aqua, it's only fair
>>575437687gem
>>575437813why is wanting to play yellow oh nowhy do you hate axis
>>575437004kris has a cute pink vagina
>>575438363wrong opinion but if they do it is not meant for sex
>>575438190that's adorable actually, I was just expecting a pedo joke
>>575438438why is asgore with crash bandicoot
>>575438671that's not crash bandicoot that's taz from looney tunes
https://x.com/8lackpen/status/2081620430637481987
>>575438978>>575438978>>575438978thing here
Oh hell yeah Fallen Aces Episode 2 came outThis post is on-topic because one of the costumes the Fun Gang wear are Gangster outfits
>>575433462
>>575411882>>575412007>>575414316I think the world of deltarune is (or was) real, but Gaster placed a boundary around a this section of the world and isolated it for his experiment. Whether it returns to normal or not will depend on the route.
