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Previous Thread: >>575448679

>Guides, Resources and useful links:
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>4koma, Manga, Side Content, PVs & Shorts
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>>(JP) – JST
>Banners:
>7/29 After Maint – 8/5 10:59
Makoto (Swimsuit – Limited)
Satsuki (Swimsuit – Limited)
Chiaki (Swimsuit – Welfare)

>News:
5.5th Anniversary Livestream: https://www.youtube.com/live/tQ4z_gAngHc – 7/26 15:00
Patch notes: https://bluearchive.jp/news/newsJump/673
>Events:
Balancing Schale's Books with the General Student Council – 7/22 11:00 – 7/29 10:59
Set Sail! Pandemonium Society's Ship: Chairman Makoto's Splendid Summer Vacation – 7/29 After Maint – 8/12 10:59
100-Free Recruitment Campaign – 7/29 After Maint – 8/5 10:59
>Content:
Total Assault: Hieronymus (Urban) – 8/5 11:00 – 8/12 3:59
Limit Break Assault: The Fury of Set (Field – w/Light Armor) – 7/30 11:00 – 8/26 3:59
2x Normal – 7/22 4:00 – 7/29 3:59
3x Bounty/Scrimmage – 7/29 4:00 – 8/5 3:59
2x Account EXP – 8/1 4:00 – 8/3 3:59
3x Normal – 8/5 4:00 – 8/9 3:59
3x Commissions – 8/5 4:00 – 8/12 3:59
2x Account EXP – 8/8 4:00 – 8/10 3:59
3x Hard – 8/9 4:00 – 8/12 3:59

>>(GLOBAL) – UTC
>Banners:
>7/21 After Maint – 8/4 1:59
Rena
Konoka
Hare (Camp)
Kotama (Camp)
Maki (Camp)
Misaki

>News:
Patch notes: https://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board_view?thread=3501827
>Events:
Kivotos' Unsolved Mystery: In Search of Tsuchinoko, the Unknown Creature – 7/21 After Maint – 8/4 1:59
Arona's Dice Game Event! – 6/23 After Maint – 8/18 1:59
My Office: https://bluearchive.nexon.com/user/myoffice
>Content:
Total Assault: Goz (Field) – 7/28 2:00 – 8/3 18:59
Limit Break Assault: Tiphareth (Indoor – w/Elastic Armor) – 7/22 2:00 – 8/17 18:59
2x Bounty – 7/20 19:00 – 7/27 18:59
2x Normal – 7/27 19:00 – 8/3 18:59
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Fucking jeets are still shilling the new system like they are paid for it lmao
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this thread will be worse
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Shame about the pity system huh?
I'd rather have a PIT-ty system haha!
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My Insidious In-Law
Nexon will BURN
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>>575455747
I dont even want to do my dailies on time anymore
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Tsumugi thread... Please remember for the next one.
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>>575455747
I swear, all the welfare summer girls are extremely girlfriendcore
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>>575455805
darkest before the dawn yaddy yadda
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Hello John Nexon here
>what happened
This is a rugpull. Nexon is about to to announce a brand new AAA Blue Archive IP game on this year's Game Awards (December 10). Featuring
>English Voice Acting
>High Definition Anime Graphics
>Open World exploration
>Deep relationship system
>Brand new Story
No more Sensei. Kivotos is going through a timeskip. The Students you knew are now grown-ups, they guide the young students. You pick Male/Female student as your Main Character. I hope you enjoy it!
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>>575455817
>Nexon will BURN
If I got a penny every time I heard this I would have 5 pennies
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>>575455747
Another analysis to add to the pile showing the new system is better all around on average.
Single Target Pull:
>Old: 107.80
>New: 90.07
Double Target Pull:
Old: 192.63
New: 180.14
https://old.reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/comments/1v7zdvg/a_stochastic_statistical_analysis_of_the_new_jp/
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One, nothing wrong with me
Two, nothing wrong with me
Three, nothing wrong with me
Four, nothing wrong with me
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Simulation that proves that the new system is worse status?
Calculation that proves that the new system is worse status?
Hands status?
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>>575455906
well yeah it's a ritualpost
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REMINDER THAT THE HOLOCAUST DIDN’T HAPPEN BUT IT FUCKING SHOULD HAVE
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FUCK THE NEW SYSTEM
FUCK THE NEW SYSTEM
FUCK THE NEW SYSTEM
FUCK THE NEW SYSTEM
FUCK THE NEW SYSTEM
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congrats on the overwhelmingly negative
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>>575455948
>>575455906
>responding to a ritualpost
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>>575455747
Thread's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpuUpGqSPOA
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smeg status?
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wtf happened
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>>575455989
That was hilariously fast
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>>575455948
I think he’s talking about the times Nexon being Nexon on previous games
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All I know is that I know nothing.
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we did it reddit
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The only good Pandemonium posters are Sagsuki and Chiakifags
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>>575456019
threads were being baked too fast
last thread only lasted an hour+
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holy fuck people are upset
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>>575455948
>>575455990
It is? I've been here 2 weeks and never seen it

Excuse my newfaggotry
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>>575456053
But I thought the system was great and we should all love it
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Can we slow down?
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>>575456065
maybe because it's a newfag ritual post
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>>575455989
>>575456053
ALREADY???
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>>575456014
kek
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Nexon ruined the half anniversary for naught. Mora than a day later and people are still fuming.
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>>575456059
newfag janny...
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>>575455947
There is none
>>575455915
Doomfags just need to shut up entirely
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>>575456053
but the average after 400 trillion rolls...
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>>575456014
>AIslop
>but it's actually funny and creative
ok, just this once
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>massively downvoting the Global Steam version when it has absolutely nothing to do with what's currently on JP server
Keeeek what a bunch of brown pajeets you are, BAkekz
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>>575455915
75.46 > 64.09

It says the old system is better
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>>575456114
I'm always slow
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>>575456065
It started yesterday
Busy FES
For all the wrong reasons
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>>575456114
NOT UNTIL OUR DEMANDS ARE MET
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>>575456019
You lost the 50/50, roll another 100 for another tsumugi thread
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Riddle me this Mr Averages. Let's take 10 banners. What are the odds of me losing 10 50/50 in a row? Well the math is quite easy - it's 1 in 1024. What that actually means that roughly 1 in 1000 players WILL encounter this problem.
Now what are the odds of me losing every single 0.7% roll over the course of 10 banners (so 2000 rolls)? A little more complex, 1 in 12633. That means 1 in 12 thousand players will encounter this problem.

So over the course of 10 banners (which is all some people will roll in a year) you would be 12 times more likely to lose every single 50/50 than you would be to not get the pickup student once.
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>>575455889
>English Voice Acting
>High Definition Anime Graphics
>Open World exploration
>Deep relationship system
>Brand new Story
whoah, sound like chinese slop
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Why are the defenders shilling for a 5050 system that is obviously more predatory instead of asking for a better system like just adding ramping up pity to the old system?
It feels like they WANT the 50/50 for some reason
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>>575455915
except, like every other post about this, it shows that 200 rolls under the old system is better than the new one.
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If I can't get the students I want, I will just stop playing.
I can jerk off to my students whenever I want anyway.
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>>575456170
>no no you see only japs are allowed to complain about a change that will rape you in 3 to 4 months if implemented
post hand
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>>575456213
What are those demands?
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nin nin
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>>575456265
they don't even play our game that's why
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For every doompost, one SEAjeet gets disintegrated.
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Can you even like Karin without being a WMBF fetishist?
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>>575456219
Yeah but you get a guaranteed 3* at 100 (Miyako) for your troubles so its better :^)
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>>575455915
>Thank you for the nice comment!
>Yeah, I agree. For players who specifically save around the old 200/400 guarantees, this is a real loss of consistency, even if the average outcome improves.
i mean what the fuck are you even trying to prove here? get your mumbai math out of here
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>575456170
>thread-hopper trying to stir shit
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>>575456270
Not so fast, wait a sec
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>>575456350
She's not black so yes
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>>575456292
Stay mad
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>>575456306
Reverse the gacha changes, that's it. I don't even care about compensation, just don't mess up a system everyone generally liked and didn't ask for them to change.
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My canon wife Fuuka...
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>>575456168
AIslop implies the existence of AIpeak
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>>575456306
Keep the old gacha system and give 10k pyros as apology
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>>575456053
Those recent reviews may seem negative, but after 400 days they will be actually better than the previous ones
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>>575456063
this is called dramatuber, they latch to any popular gossip on internet and make quick buck from it. really disgusting
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Yaaaay...
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W U W O N
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>>575456306
I didn't think I'd get this far. Uh.
>change the gacha back
>release the marriage update
>Kim hitting the dogeza pose
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>>575456265
Yes, I'm being paid by Nexon to defend a system that would make me save 10 pulls every banner on a average. You found me out!
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>downvoting
is this spic serious
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>>575456014
I like the original song a lot so it might have some effect, but that's really good AI voice for it.
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at least the 200 is still a guaranteed, if they pulled off the "roll 50/50" into infinity i would actually quit
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>>575456489
Sniff and lick
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>>575456463
>GuitarRock
>dramatuber
You must be new here
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>>575456417
That's what AI singularity is for
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>>575456265
Because I do play the game and understand math
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>>575456396
What you liked doesn't matter when it comes to their business. If that's what gets them more money then it's the right thing to do. You should encourage them for that and hope they get more rich so Blue Archive can become an ever better product. More money = better game. No money = no development.
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>>575456059
so what? /bag/ is always fast before, during and after a new stream and the shitty new rates made it faster
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>>575456396
They can keep the change so long as the spark system remains in tact.
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>>575455989
How many negative reviews by “guy with 2k hours played”?
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>>575456463
i mean sure but the usual amount of comments on a 20k views video like this would be 100 at best, maybe 200 if its really controversial
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>>575456436
10k apologems isnt even that bad btw a couple weeks ago Nikke gave 6k apologems for something way more trivial than this fucking brand destroying shit
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>>575456149
Even with the change they’ll almost definitely revert, this is the best fes we’ve ever had. Actually getting a Gehenna volume and a Pandemonium FES event, and them all getting some of the best swimsuits in the game. It brings a smile to my face thinking about the trannies saying they weren’t popular and wouldn’t ever get an event, and they got both shorts and fes.
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>>575456417
It exists, but it's hidden behind closed doors by the government. Trust me.
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Friendly reminder that cassinos work less on math and more on psychologically tricking you so you think the math is more favorable than it really is.
All the "i don't let emotions control me" posters are missing the forest for the trees.
If it was a good change they would proudly present and explain why it's better themselves instead of looking for random tweets to support them after everyone got up in arms.
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>>575456479
congratz fat Shiroko enjoyer, now you can move onto other girls
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>>575456306
Revert all changes, free UE60 Ako (Naked Dogeza) and a purple gift selector
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>>575456350
I want her to give birth to my white children so I wouldn't know
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>>575456513
HEY BE INCLUSIVE we call them latinx here chud
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>>575456489
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>>575456265
>why are hoyoslop thread-hoppers coming here, the only place where you can easily fake your identity, to make we look like fucking hypocrites while subversively making their own games look better
gee I wonder why....
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>>575456387
you lost, nu monkey
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Even if they give apologems it will only be for jp players. How does that even affect you brownies, lol.
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I don't think nexon give a single fuck about the backlash, just look at maplestory. They will die on this hill and no amount of boycotting will change anything.
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>>575456489
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>>575456219
But anon, you could be the one that wins all 10 banners in a row as well. You could be one of those lucky few chosen ones.
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>>575456569
How about Greg at least? You don't need D.Aru for that.
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>>575456723
Lose what? My gacha mogs your dead kusoge
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>>575456735
STOP LAUGHING
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>/bag/gots shitting on hoyo style gacha for years
>nexon introduces hoyo style gacha to make more money
>now slurpers have to defend it
hehehe
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>>575456501
That is both not what anon asked and proving the point at the same time.
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>>575456306
Reverse Gacha changes and naked dogeza
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>>575456454
>”it’s bad on a case by case basis but overall the reviews will average out to be better guys!”
let’s see if the reviews win the pity as well
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>>575456719
AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
PEEBUKI WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>whoever support the new mechanic is jeet shills
>whoever support the old mechanic is jeet shills
Aren't you retards tired with this tirade already? All of you don't even play in jp nor can read Japanese or understand the concept of probability
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Why don't they just sell furniture packs? It takes way too long to make the raffle boxes for this.
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>>575456598
I wish steam let you filter that high
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>>575456787
It's better
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT
GOOD MORNING /BAG/
I haven't logged into any social media since Friday.
WHAT THE FUCK NERDS
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It's funny how Irohaschizo posts are so easy to spot, it's almost like the faggot is using a tripcode or avatarfagging.
>>575456747
maplestory was always p2w har
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>>575456479
gg
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>>575456735
>how not being raped by the gacha in the future updates affect you
this is only about preventing its implementation retard
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Breh
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>>575456787
>Even BA tarnished with a 50/50 is still leagues better than mihoyo's shit
HEEHEE!
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Sorry to interrupt the doompostonf but can I use SHanako for Lun Goz phase 1? I can ligma dump my Mutsuki but id rather not at this stage.
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>>575456776
>>575456735
>30 seconds apart samefagging
he's really using a pass for this
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My game theory : Nexon switch the budget for paid artists to paid shitposters, that why there are barely any new art for the summer event
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I hope they'll reveal Kayoko backstory in the Gehenna volume. I've waited long enough
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>>575456846
It's unironically worse
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>No gay males
>Swimsuit alts
>No gay/hetero pairings
>No 50/50
>New so you aren't behind
Give it a try Sensei, it's free!
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>>575456747
i mean maplestory has a whole music genre called changpop dedicated to shitposting about maplestory management doing retarded decisions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYRkZmBuDqI
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>>575456787
Weapon gacha status?
Spooks limited to year 1 units status?
6k f2p pyro a month status?
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>>575456569
Does it need to be a 50/50 system though? Is there NO better system to be implemented?
Can you answer me this?
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>>575456836
we're all jeet shills here
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>>575456895
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coom in Nozoom.
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>still being raided after 24hrs
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>>575456935
The math says otherwise
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>>575456941
>Holoshit
No
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>>575456882
We deserve it for talking shit about hoyo games
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>>575456652
Can you tell me how you'd wanted them to proudly present this, when it's a QoL change?
They announced it during their own anniversary stream, they did it in the "these are all the QoL and new game additions!" part of the stream, and they put it on twitter
Tell me how you want it announced.
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>>575456846
saar...
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>>575456774
Didn't have Nagisa, Mina, SSaki, Minori, SMisaki, SNagusa, or Rena
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>>575456747
>just look at maplestory.
just look at maplestory 2
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>>575456306
Every single exec and shareholder must be made an example of and crucified on the streets of Seoul with a plaque over their heads displaying their crimes
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Textbook example of how human preferences will always trump incentives.
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>>575455889
jokes aside I can see they trying to force the (((unconfirmed))) gender Sensei more in a shit hits the fan scenario
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>>575456848
I just ejaculated... don't post lewd Keis please
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>>575456265
It's a real head scratcher, innit?
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>>575456270
yes at the ideal outcome for the old system vs the new system the old system wins. on average the new system wins. if you aren't an irrational muh feelings retard the average is what matters
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>>575456941
VGH.........SO........FVCKING.........KINO........
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>>575456968
Don't forget having a story that not even the players care about where getting a skip function was anniversary announcement material.
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>>575456941
>3dpd roasties
Yeah, nah.
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>>575456827
It's not like getting to 200 on the new gacha will gain you anything additional
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>>575457064
would be worse than the gacha change ngl
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I literally can't get mad at this when I'm saving on average 12-18 pulls or something like that each patch. Please shut the fuck up already.
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>>575456848
source?
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>>575456889
Yes.
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>>575456501
>>575456569
wait you guys are actually defending a 50/50 homoslop system, what the fuck?
the post there wasn't even judging you for wanting to save rolls
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ZZZ has better cunnies i think they won
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All these maths posts are interesting and all, but none of them really correspond to how I actually roll, especially on bluefes.

I don't typically just roll until I get both students on the banner. A lot of the time I'll roll and if I've gone far enough before I get the student I want, I finish the spark and grab the other. Or a duplicate. At bluefes I always roll at least a full spark, even if I get both students beforehand, because the dupe is useful. I don't really think the utility of the spark system is well captured by just looking at average rolls.
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>>575457000
>it must be a raid even if every single social media is angry about the new implementation
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>>575456941
>3dpd vtumors
nah i'm
>inb4 meltdown again
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>>575457041
Sounds like you don't have anything tb age
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>>575456973
Of course there could be a better system. The reality is that I don't think Nexon is doing this out of their goodwill and it's a change to encourage more spending from impulse rollers and whales. But ultimately it's a better deal for me as a competitive F2P player so I prefer it over the old system in a vacuum.
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>>575456956
All fatties need cunny alts
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>>575457089
>but on average the 50/50 is better!
go back to your hoyo general
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>>575457018
Fundamental system changes should come from the director's mouth, not using the voice actors as a messenger.
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>>575457159
just don't look at their "pig noses" symbols they wear on their belts.
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>>575456941
>no gay pairings
>what's noefure
>what's micomet
>what's okakoro
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>>575457159
>50/50 gacha system
Nope
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>>575456941
>No gay males
Yeah, but plenty of yurishit of the most forced kind
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>>575456014
I felt that double spark on the magical girls banner.
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>>575456956
hey I just saw this pic on /r/bluearchive too...
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If I didn't see Kim crucified by the end of the month, kiss this vn goodbye
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>>575456973
Because that's statistically the easiest way of both lowering the variance and raising the mean and median. I mean, obviously a system where every pull has a 100% chance of being the unit you want would be the most beneficial, but they're clearly not going to do that.
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>>575456956
No, I am not a file of the portable document kind. Go away.
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>>575457018
they should have recognized their playerbase are imbeciles and included the expected value to prevent the outrage from starting
it's a non-issue but people already decided to be mad so they won't change their mind
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>>575456962
translate it, K-pop fags
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What's wrong with males. Aren't you literally male? Are you afraid of your kind? You're a tranny then?
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>>575456956
You have to seriously be gay to think the hag is hotter than this child
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>>575456968
>Weapon gacha status?
Coming next year to Blue Archive as well, and then you will also defend it because you're a slurper.
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>game doing better than ever
>still the Comiket king
>nooo this small insignificant thing is going to kill it
You are all stupid.
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>>575456265
Can't say for the others but you can plan around the 50/50, not so much in the old system. You have to win at least once before the 200 rolls or you're going for the full 400 for both characters. Any unused recruitment points will be a waste so when rolling, you can't just waste 10 or so rolls on any banner.

The new system just makes it easier to roll on non-FES banners because you know the pity carries over even if you didn't get the rate-up. There are several characters I want outside of FES but can never really try for them because of certain must-haves where I need to have the mandatory 200 rolls to ensure I don't get fucked over by RNG.
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>>575457160
Should've been a based dickroller that rolls for momos.
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>>575456570
>More money = better game
Feel free to come down to earth with the rest of us any time
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>>575457372
>you can plan around the 50/50, not so much in the old system
lmaoooooo yall be typing literally anything
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bless curi archive
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>>575457335
It's in japanese
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>>575457208
>All fatties need cunny
I say, free cunny for every fat Sensei
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>from the most beloved gacha to the most hated
Lmao nice gacha you have fags
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>>575457350
call me Freddie Mercury then
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>>575457432
jajajajajaja :v
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>>575457067
>all those cute accessories and those nails
Yep, I'm thinking big AGP picture.
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>>575457160
Correct.
If you plan to spend 200 for the spark then spending 200 also just doesn't feel particularly bad.
Anything you get early feels good.
With the way things are being re-framed, anything after the 50/50 coinflip is going to feel unlucky - God forbid you get it on 190 / 200.
If you were deadset on getting both in the past you'd also hit 200 and then keep going, you could get one either on-banner or off-banner spook and then spark the one you miss.
I don't think the current system will have that flexibility, right? You get something at 200, then start again.

Averages be damned - I've tried both systems, I played some mihomo shit on launch. It felt horrible. I don't need mathsfags to tell me which one I like most when I've experienced both and quit one partially over the pull system while liking the other one.
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>>575456350
I am a AMBF fetishist. I where's my nubian qween like Karin for a yellow sensei like me.
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>>575456941
kek, the day one of these whores graduates they are getting deleted from the game files
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>>575456979
I'm not a jeet shill
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>>575457504
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>>575457372
>because you know the pity carries over even if you didn't get the rate-up
You say you can plan around 50/50s, but you can't even plan your pull budget so you don't have to do desperation moves that lead to you not getting the pickup
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>>575457372
>can plan around the 50/50, not so much in the old system
lol, lmao. As if we didn't have years of real file examples of both systems.
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>>575457469
most hated is still shadowverse. nobody will ever beat it.
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>>575456219
The percentiles of luck should be include both the result of 50/50s and the 0.7%s. You have to combine the systems as a whole because they all affect the end result. Say you lose 10 50/50s in a row but have average luck regarding the 0.7%s, so you are in the bottom 0.1% of luck. How many banners does that give you? What would be the equivalent of the bottom 0.1% of luck in the old system? It would certainly have less 0.7% hits because we said the lose all 50/50 case has average luck on 0.7%s. How many rate ups does that net you? The graph commonly posted with the number of rolls on the X axis and the percentiles on the Y axis should really be flipped to give a more objective view on the affect luck has under the old system and new system. Instead of "how lucky do I have to be to win in 200 rolls" you should look at "how many rolls do I need if I am in the 50% percentile of luck, 90% percentile, 99% percentile, etc".
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>>575457149
i found it on gelbooru but here's sauce
https://x.com/breww_0/status/2080670183409283339

amebrew is artist if you dont have x
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>>575457469
The enshittification was done on purpose so everyone moves to stella sora or AO
This is only the beginning, next Nexon will add weapons gacha and remove the ability to trade ligma with elephs
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>>575457352
>You're defending a change that benefits you, therefore you will also defend one that harms you!
Yeah man, sure.
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>>575457429
But it's true though. Lose the 50/50, and if you decide to cut your losses, you only need 100 rolls for the next one. They key part isn't the 50/50 part but the fact that pity carries over. That's the biggest change that I want the most.
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>>575456956
Improved
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>>575456463
That guy actually plays the game and makes guides about it if you bothered to look at the uploads
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>>575457653
big thanks bro
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>>575457469
>noooo you have to accept it like a cuck so I can make fun of you
fuck off and stay there
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Total Genshin Impact victory
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>>575456479
Cogratulations!
May you reach 100 before we EOS
>>575456570
Short term gains at the cost of long term sustainability kill any business
>hope they get more rich so Blue Archive can become an ever better product
That money's not getting reinvested bro
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>>575457679
>decide to cut your losses
why would you even start if you planned to chicken out before the spark?
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>>575456114
It's fine I prefer this. The one thing I notice is that usual local schizo switches now post streams.
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>>575456941
>No gay males
>No gay/hetero pairings
I’d rather have holostars in the game than any kind of yurislop hololive LOVES to push
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>>575456941
Don't forget to subscribe individually to all your favorite vtubers in game! That's right, for the low low price of a couple of dollars per month, per character, you can show your support.
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>>575457704
Yeah, people can not like him for whatever reason - say his guides are garbage or whatever, but he's obviously not a dramatuber.
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>>575457668
No it's because of Project RX.
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>>575456265
It's pretty simple, it will benefit me. I have always saved 24k per student I want. If I want both students, I have always been prepared to dump 400 rolls. I will get more students for my pyro with the new system. That said, it's not a massive difference on the whole so I don't really care if they roll it back either.
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>>575457529
>AMBF
anon... are you even above 10cm? I got some bad news for you....
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>>575456941
the game is badly coded and it keeps crashing on my phone. I wanted to support Kronii but in this state I can't, sorry.
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>>575457756
Wtf I'm fucking installing Genshin as we speak she's fucking hot
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How does it feel to live long enough to see your favorite gacha go down in flames?
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>>575457756
ZZZ is better than you lmao
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>>575457262
You know what else I saw on /r/bluearchive?
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>have to win a 75% roll twice to get the same outcome you would have gotten before with a single 75%
>except no extra eleph so it’s actually even worse
>”i-it’s better!”
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I commisioned a study to find out whether new system apologists are blue button pressers or red button pressers
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>>575457908
Stop we just got another cute pink girl in the gehenna volume...
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>>575457758
>That money's not getting reinvested bro
This. Isakusan left because Nexon stopped giving bonus after 3rd year.
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>>575457763
Because I no longer have recruitment points that goes to waste. I can try to see it I can get rate-up in 100 rolls. If I don't, I can reevaluate if I really want this character or save the guarantee for the one I really want the most, in which case, it's only 100 rolls for that one. You can just walk away when it's pity that's being built up, not so when it's recruitment points.
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>>575457756
Too bad her "swimsuit" skin sucked fucking Ibuki ass
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>>575457964
Shut the fuck up about the buttons
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>>575457996
This is the kind of poster who lets another man have sex with his wife.
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>>575457724
Finally an art of her swimsuit with her mole AND wing.
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>>575457996
Don't waste your pyros, retard. Saved pyros are more important now.
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>>575457372
As someone who's gotten into games with pity garbage in them. No, they are harder to plan around. Especially with how many new characters this game releases and how large the pool for characters is
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>>575457996
>”my points get instaburned so that means they don’t get wasted”
my god, did you need to be taught how to breathe as well?
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>>575457979
You see the shit he was putting out? I would've stopped giving his ass extra too.
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>>575457975
BA is sinking it's about time to jump ship anon. I used to shit on Genshin but that was just nonsensical 4chan agenda shitposting.
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>>575457947
Is that true though? Or is it just retarded math?
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>>575455747
Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU6RfYnjvGI
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>>575457964
Would they switch the doors though?
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>>575458134
>Is that true though?
What do you mean is it true? It's literally how the new system works.
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>>575457839
Same, but I will actually care if they roll it back just because of retarded monkeys chimping out. With the new system I would be able to pull for a whole extra student every year (taking into account the lower expected number of pulls each banner, the 10 pulls they're giving for free now, the fact that you would never need to waste GA tickets now and the fact that when you get the pickup in the middle of a 10 pull then the rest of the pulls will get accumulated into the pity). With that I could actually start pulling for strong perms again, which I haven't been able to do in years.
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>>575458152
I guarantee you everyone that prefers the new system would switch doors in the Monty hall problem.
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>>575455915
Good analysis but that guy is still retarded even in the worst case scenario of doing 200 pulls every patch (where the old system excels the most) you still come ahead over time with the new one. THERE ARE LITERALLY NO DOWNSIDES.
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it's really bad out there yet you guys defend the new gacha like contrarians to the rest of the community
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>>575457219
The Korean director should've appeared during the Japanese anniversary livestream, announced the change in fluent Japanese or had a Japanese translator right next to him, and then dipped out
That's what you're telling me
Or it should be a video next to all the thumbnails of anime blue archive girls on the main blue archive channel?
>fundamental change
It's the gacha system which got a slight adjustment

>>575457289
I mean probably, but if there's even 1 disadvantage to the system change (which there are) it just looks really fucking bad if you provide numbers for certain scenarios but not for other scenarios.
The way it got announced is fine.
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>>575458092
Why? Pity carries over so if you don't get the rate-up in one banner, it still gets counted toward the next one.
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>>575457847
It's 15cm. If JAV pornstars can make it work, I'll make it work. Why can't Karin and Iori be real.
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>>575458195
Good news, there are plenty of shitty 50/50 games on the market which you can play right now.
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BUY
BUY
BUY
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>>575458195
Why don't you just go play Honkai Star Rail instead then?
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>>575458152
Yeah
The problem is Monty didn’t even fucking show the goat yet, they just go MUH MAFFS MUHFUGGA
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>>575457996
>If I don't, I can reevaluate if I really want this character or
There are people who actually think this.
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>>575458229
4chan is always full of contrarians, for better or worse
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>>575458280
Don't care, gacha is fucked.
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>>575458280
still waiting for wakaplush
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>>575458273
Make one with cunnies I'm off
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>>575458280
no
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>>575457996
>just build up the pity on banners you dont care about, bro
>win the 0.7% for a character he didnt want, all pity resets
Why in the green fuck would you spend pyros at all unless it was to guarantee results you absolute dunce?
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>>575457964
Since they are supposedly math experts they should solve Portal cube problem instead
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>>575457953
>no extra eleph
this thing right here made sure whatever possible good benefit out of the new system would be gone
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>>575458273
>>575458291
I despise gacha and I regret the fact that I actually enjoy BA's story and gameplay. But since I'm already playing it, of course I would prefer them to give me better conditions.
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>>575458269
>15cm
unironically impressive for an asian
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>>575458273
None of them are BA.
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>>575458383
no you don't get it!!! On average it's good!!! Also I get to BUILD PITY!!! Anyways play my game!
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>>575458280
>2 personal must buys during the shitstorm
man
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Wait i just watched the livestream they didn't even appear on stage like they used to during half anniversaries and anniversaries????? LMFAO IT'S DEFINITELY A RUGPULL EOS SOON UNIRONICALLY
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>>575458219
OK but..
CUI BONO
EA CEO
CUI BONO
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Fat
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>>575458314
So I can't cut my losses and walk away now?
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>>575458408
>I despise gacha
>that's why I'm supporting changing the gacha to be more predatory, add a 50/50 and replace spark with pity
okay dude
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>>575458393
Fine, I'll do it
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>>575458229
Contrarian is when you're not angry because of logic
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>>575457160
Oh hey, that reddit post someone linked earlier actually did do a bluefes style simulation of pulling to the spark for dupes, and the old system wins out pretty handily there. And the new system is especially bad for eleph, as expected. No wonder they want to sell time limited eleph packs.
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>>575458269
That’s nearly 6 inches, you’re fine
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>>575458229
>4chan is full of indian boot lickers
more news at 11
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>>575458234
>slight adjustment
They are reworking it entirely
And it's a sidegrade at best
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>>575458219
old gacha fags need to kill themselves I think
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>>575458269
you just made all asians ITT mad by being way bigger than them
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>>575458523
What's AI opinion on this?
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>>575458131
>but that was just nonsensical 4chan agenda shitposting
its the truth, not a single character it has looks as good as even the worst BA's mobs
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>>575458508
you should cut your losses and play another game if you're this retarded
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>so many threads over the weekend
I was touching grass. QRD?
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>>575458523
A.
The cube itself has no inherent velocity.
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>>575458523
The answer is B because Portal is a game, games are meant to be fun, and B is more fun
there are no puzzles to be had with cubes plopping but you can make puzzles with flinging objects through moving portals
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>>575457539
rice-eating bait?
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>>575458538
funny how the mathfags who support the new change disappear after this relevation
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>>575457646
I think there was a graph like that but it's not reposted and I'm not looking back in the past 100 threads.
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>>575458597
Venti mogs Hina
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>>575458209
So new system apologists are rational beings?
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They already ignored the elephant. They will not revert this new gacha system. Just deal with it.
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>>575458658
I don't roll for dupes so this doesn't affect me.
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>>575458610
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>>575458267
Not all banners are created equal. If you get lucky and lose your saved pity on only potentially good banner, you might not have enough pyrox to get the better limited later.
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>>575458610
EOS, except unironically this time
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I like how one side of the shitposters is defending the changes and using reddit as evidence that if they hate them then they must be good while the other is shitting on them and using reddit as evidence of why they're bad
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>>575458694
They are the kind of people who would tell you to use Kayoko for CC.
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>>575458691
only according to homosexuals
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>>575458195
>because of retarded monkeys chimping out.
It's always difficult to gauge how real an online chimpout is. I think they will only roll the change back if they see a real impact to their financial numbers. If they don't, the new system will stay because not enough people actually cared enough to stop spending. In that case, people will adapt and things will eventually normalise.
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>they are moving the goalposts to the eleph shit
I accept your concession.
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>>575458234
The spark system is a core feature of BA's gacha, to remove it is to fundamentally change how the gacha works outside of the context of individual rolls.
To dumb it down for you, a food analogy
>you like turkey sandwiches more than ham sandwiches
>you go to a vendor that exclusively sells turkey sandwiches
>he announced that he is switching to ham
>retards argue about the nutritional value of ham vs turkey instead of the fact that you didnt want a fucking ham sandwich
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>>575458383
Because I get to try in the first place. FES is the only mandatory banner and you should be saving up for it. However, that means outside of that, if you spend anything on any other banner, you would be wasting your stash since nothing carries over under the old system. You never assume you can get the rate-up in 200 rolls. Once you start, it's hard to stop. Under the old system, there is no stopping point outside of actually getting the character.
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>>575458476
You're buying 2 Himaris? Based
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>>575458523
>>575458637
because of the way source engine works it's about the force being applied to the object so A
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>>575456882
teens in school uniform. erotic.
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Once again it's all gehenoids fault
Mika is right
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The gacha changes were never presented to the players as being better than the old system. That idea didn't come from the stream. Nexon never said that. YoStar never said that. So why are people here (basically the only place on the entire internet where there is a vocal group of people saying it's good) trying to justify it more than Nexon themselves? If the change was really supposed to be to our benefit, why wouldn't they mention that? Seems like a weird thing to omit.
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>>575458757
holy shit, bodied that freak
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When will /bag/ stop being ass?
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Where were you when BA was kill?
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>>575458775
>stop spending
are you retarded? the changes are meant to make people spend more money, not less
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>>575458523
The cube gets crushed because the portal disspears when the surface it is on starts moving.
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>>575458523
B has a 50/50 chance of hitting you in the head, thanks to the pity momentum
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>>575458234
>The way it got announced is fine.
Is that why every single community hates it?
Is that why they didn't bother with the live audience with Nexon knowing the backlash it'll bring.
Don't make me laugh this shit is malicious as fuck.
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>>575458769
Homosexuals like Hina? No wonder why she's shipped with Ako and Hoshino...
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>>575458803
It's ok to admit you don't want change but at the very least don't be disingenous about it and pretend the new system will be worse than the old one pull wise. That's it.
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>>575458775
>if they see a real impact to their financial numbers
they won't roll back even if it's terrible because people who left won't come back.
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>>575458875
15 btw
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>>575458904
*meant for retarded monkeys to spend more
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>>575458538
Bluefes scenario is worse, fair
Now what about the rest of the year? You know, where the method used is always limited to step 1 and 2?
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>>575458875
>>575458896
the time to fap was earlier, do not post porn now
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consider the following
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>>575458691
fr fr on god
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>>575458853
>reddit
>nips https://kina-ko-m-ochi.net/simu/
>arca live
>this is the only place on the internet
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>>575458853
>basically the only place on the entire internet where there is a vocal group of people saying it's good
Not true, you just can't read Japanese. The serious players who consistently top JP's raid brackets are almost unanimously in favor of the new changes, and they're only annoyed at the way Nexon communicated them.
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Mika could've stopped this
Minori could've stopped this
Kaya could've stopped this
Deca could've stopped this
But you made the wrong choice every single time, Sensei. Some would you say that you lost the 50/50 of understanding who your real allies and enemies are.
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>>575458998
This is the same defense everyone uses to support garbage P2W games btw
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>>575458875
Ass soon ass possible, hopefully
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>>575458691
This but unironically
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>>575458597
The hag witch wit the huge tits, the ghost loli and the fat rat are easily immortalization filler banner tier.
That's all they have over 4 games though.
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>>575459039
I'm sure you can provide a link
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>>575458383
There are multiple banners that people might want but in the current system you can never allow yourself to even try rolling for them to see if it's your lucky day because that's just a waste of pyros. With the new system you don't lose anything. If you got lucky and got the character you wanted early, great. If you didn't then it's not a big deal, you still have your pity.
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>>575458853
They are not affected by either system, its the typical no negativity in the dojo kind of retard that for some odd reason still engages with the subject despite not being affected by it.
The same posters who thought GRAC wasnt gonna do shit back then, assuming they were already playing the game by then that is
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>>575459039
I'm glad people here are a bit smarter but yeah we still have a lot of retards around
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>>575458741
But that means it's still only 100 pulls for a rate-up. That's still a hell of a win, even if it's not FES. I'm not going to be spending on everything, just usually enough to trigger the 50/50 before deciding if I really want the character to use another 100 or just walk away and now I only need 100 for FES (or the guaranteed with the 100 free rolls prior to FES).
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When do we move on to doomposting about the new power up system tho?
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>>575459039
>top JP's raid brackets are almost unanimously in favor of the new changes
Is that why the rank 1 player changed his name to say "new system sucks"?
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so how do we fight back? I don't believe in review bombing, apparently the devs can ask for them to be removed so it's irrelevant. do we uninstall? or do we keep playing but stop spending?
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>>575459030
>>reddit
Uhhh... retard?
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>>575459162
when everyone realizes this gacha change is a huge nothing burger
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>>575458538
>oh hey someone on reddit did X
>look here's a chatgpt screenshot
getting quite desperate aren't we
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>>575458839
Guess you can say that... this FES has steered a Pandemonium!
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>>575459004
I literally made a post saying that I wanted to see someone actually do analysis of that scenario because i hadn't seen any. And then someone actually had done it, so I posted it here too. What are you so desperate about?
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>alive thread
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>>575459039
You are just simply lying.
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>>575459215
review bombing doesn’t work but actual does
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>>575456883
The gacha, bad as it is, has never been the main problem with mihomo trash. It’s the cherry on top of a pile of shit.
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>>575458523
It's A
Because portals are basically doorways
To look at it from another perspective, imagine a lift. A lift that goes up and down. You can enter and leave it when the doorway to it is there. All you have to do is enter through the doorway. You are affected/stop being affected by lift movement after entering/leaving the lift. The doorway itself, despite moving alongside lift, doesn't have or generate any velocity by itself.
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>>575459178
That's actually a Chinese player who is only rank 1 because he's using macros, and even if that wasn't the case I'm also aware that there are some retards in that group as well.
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>>575459070
Mika would never allow gehenna fest if she knew it would become like this
>>575459257
heh
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What do you even get from dooming on the new system when people have already kindly shown you the proof it'll be fine? Is it raiders?
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>>575459074
Just don't be brown, easy.
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>>575459162
all we know about the system is that "it exists" and "does something"
we'll have to play it to see how fun or obnoxious it is and how it affects the stats
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>>575459341
>source: I made it up
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>>575458853
Nexon monitors this thread if you aren't aware of it yet.
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>>575459113
>hag witch
boring, Eri mogs all of their hexen circle single handedly
>ghost loli
fucking mobs are superior to her, no offense
>fat rat
doesnt ring a bell
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>>575458904
Your post isn't contradicting my argument in any way. Yes, the change is of course meant to increase spending, the question is whether it works. If you assume there is no scenario where it doesn't work then all complaining is utterly pointless since they will never change their minds.

>>575458970
Maybe. The sunk cost fallacy can be pretty high with these games. Especially if you are among the players that matter financially and have spent a lot on the game.
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>>575459150
You will be missing those 100 pulls and you will regret it. This is not some what-if scenario, the system is not new. It's designed to drain you in the way you describe. People hate it for that reason.
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>>575458824
Do you have zero impulse control? In the old system you exercise a little restraint and your reward is guaranteed results.
Literally the only time you should show a little less restraint is when you have a 10 pull ticket thats expiring but you dont have a slam dunk banner you want to throw it at. Maybe you decide to dickpull a little, this would be the only context that a 50/50 system helps ever. Its still preferable to ensure you get your results on the important limited and fest banners because they cannot spook you later, so having temperance is always preferred under either system.
Low impulse idiocy shouldnt be rewarded. You deserve to lose if you cant control yourself.
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>>575459367
>kindly
good morning sir
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>>575459341
>is only rank 1 because he's using macros
Confirmed gold shitter
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>>575459113
name the hag witch I wanna see
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So, why did they have to fuck with the golden goose?
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https://x.com/SLC_Sil/status/2081742607991062901
lol someone analyzed Satsuki's normal skill from how Miyo's damage changed. Seems like 25% defdown for 26 seconds on a 30 second cooldown.
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>>575459238
why even make it then, it doesnt make any sense
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>>575459527
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What's actually going on right now is a two way shit test. Nexon is foisting a badly communicated fundamental shift of the game's core system and expect people who complain to eventually shut up. The playerbase meanwhile is shit testing whether the company is actually capable of listening to their demands and if the company doesn't reverse course that means they don't actually care about their customers. Currently playing chicken with the game and it could result in both parties just smashing into one another and everyone dies. The actual change itself doesn't matter much in the long run outside of that.
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>>575459251
It's a reddit screenshot, you can go and read it.
>>575455915
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Somehow it's Nagusa fault btw
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>Release Gehenna chapter
>Release Gehenna event
>Release Gehenna characters
>Change how gacha works to make sure everyone gets Gehenna characters during Gehenna event
>For some inane reason people are mad
With how much y'all dislike change people could mistake y'all for trinitards.
Embrace Chaos like true Gehenna patriots
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>>575459527
judaism
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>>575456941
>>No gay/hetero pairings
>hololive
oh you
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>y'all
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Trying too hard
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goose?
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>>575459527
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wow BA players are vocal about the news and they are not happy. Theyre discontented with the new pity system like mihoyo and the whole mat farming thing. I guess they were holding out hope for a good bluefes. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the new pity system removed. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.
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>>575459215
>do we uninstall?
Yes, we should uninstall, then move to another gacha, like LADS. In fact, you should do it right now.
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>>575459501
Lisa apparently
>>575459417
And the fat rat is apparently Jane Doe (Very creative)
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Nothingburger
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>>575459614
I’m just happy the actual game is better than ever. A big change has indeed happened.
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If it's really a side-grade and Nexon cares about its players oh so much they they should've just pulled a P5X and have BOTH gacha systems present.
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>>575459162
is just looks like princess knight enchantment but worse
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>>575459162
Did they even mention how youll get the new resources?
I didnt see any mention of a new mode like FRR.
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>>575459215
I just won't spend money anymore
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>>575459461
If you're willing to spend on a non-FES character, you are already assuming 200 rolls is needed. Trying 100 rolls to see if you can get it first is a good stopping point. If you must get it, that is still 200 rolls that you would have spent in the first place. If you stop because FES is still more important, then stop. Under the old system, once you spend the initial 100 rolls, you can't turn back anymore, you must complete it.
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I will be okay with new system as long as they delete Miyako from the pool
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>>575459547
Higher engagement with the gacha because a lot of people will no longer wait for the black and white 200 pull thing will offset entirely the improved 5% extra pull rate. More money is their end goal.
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>>575459556
>the playerbase is shit testing
I cant say for the rest, but to me, the fes is as good as done for already. Even if they revert the announcements
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>>575459215
selling pakeji
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>nexonkikes sabotaging NatSoc event on purpose
At last I truly see
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>>575459730
>fat rat is apparently Jane Doe
she kinda is sexo, that and that cop with the caboose I don't know the name of
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>>575459556
The worst part is, there's a nonzero chance that Nexon just reacts by "compromising" and still opting for a less-bad but still worse system. Either way, it seems like the players lose in all cases unless somehow Nexon actually backpedals which doesn't seem likely considering how bold of a move this was.
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>>575459764
>game going down in flames
>gehenna bootlickers are trying to pretend everything is fine
lmao you literally killed the game
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>>575459849
WHY? They are literally giving you more pulls. Calm down and stop being retarded please
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>>575459863
I already used chargeback
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>>575459948
>>gehenna bootlickers
>plural
it's just one guy, can you guess who it is?
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>>575459527
BA is making less than half it used to make. This change will help devs to squeeze more money from whales.
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>>575459547
The pull rates (all that matters) will be better for us, while Eleph rates will be worse (doesn't affect anyone not autistic or whales), so we'll have better rates and Nexon will make more money.
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>>575459575
>So the old system rewarded fixed savings targets. The new one rewards checking your actual state after each pickup and deciding whether the next checkpoint is worth chasing.
tl;dr the new system rewards pulling for students you like
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>>575459471
Right, because there are surely only characters that you want from FES banners and everything else is a waste. Like, saving up only for FES is the most boring and unfun way of playing the game. Hell, with the new system, the 10x tickets that you use can even carry over so even if you didn't win, it's 10 less rolls for FES.
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My pure hearted big tits hypnotist demon wife deserved better
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>>575459967
>the bugs are free, just eat them!
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>>575459730
>Jane Do
cute but not enough reason to deal with chinkslop, the issue with hoyogames is that they all feel like a monkeypaw fest.
For every single good thing, there is 2 bad things
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>cum in an empty cup
>forget about it
>bring the cup downstairs
>fill it with kambucha
>take a sip
>realize what I just did
student for this feel?
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>>575459684
5 years ago... that scenery... the onsen...
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>>575460004
>Eleph rates will be worse (doesn't affect anyone not autistic or whales)
lol
lmao
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>>575460028
10 fewer rolls with the double rates doesn't sound like that big a win to me.
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>>575459527
It's a silver goose at best
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>>575459684
There are subhumans out there still defending the final arc and the ending
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I got way too heated yesterday about the gacha change but after sleeping on it it's really not that serious.
They just completely fucked up by not explaining it properly and announcing it in the middle of fes. It completely derailed the event.
It should have been announced in a separate stream and supported with stats and graphs.
That said, even if the issue is blown way out of proportion, all the outrage is bound to get a response and probably some small improvement to the system so overall it might turn out to be a good thing.
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>>575459532
huh, that's really good up time
I wonder if she's bis for Hiero
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>gehenna update
>gacha shittification
>xitter suspened
Mika and Hasumi were right. Total Gehennigger Death
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>>575458839
Mika love
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>>575459948
You can lick my boot. I’ll be walking over your corpse as it’s burned by the flames of our victory.
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>>575459967
these emotional gacha addicts cannot understand rational math, can't they see that the average is better now? Who cares about variance? Anyways since 50/50s are good you should play my chinkslop
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>>575460004
Sure those nice new eleph packs aren't there to solve the issue they themselves created right??
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>>575460113
just buy the pakeji for the eleph bro it's not a scam trust me
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>>575459967
>Nexon is doing it for you
Sure and they will end hunger any day now. I hate you retarded shills as much as I hate shitposters
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I thought pandemonium fes would be the worst that could happen in stream.
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Enraging your fanbase is pretty idiotic to me especially during anniversary desu
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>>575460090
Why do you not have a dedicated cumming cup like any normal person would
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>>575460031
No I'm trying to help you out. You seem super upset but I don't understand what's your reason for that being the case. The new system is nowhere close to catastrophic, in fact all evidence shows it will be slightly better. Why do you feel the need to be mad about something for no reasaon?
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>>575460031
Kek
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>>575460078
The original question is which of the girls look better than BA mobs. Obviously you shouldn't play any of the games if they average 1.3 passable designs per-game.
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>>575460090
Why kambucha?
Also Aoba
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So under the new system, if you have an expiring GA ticket, and there aren't any students you want on the current banner, it's best to let it expire so you don't accidentally reset your pity, right?
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>>575458234
It's not fine, they should have explained the reason for the change, the pros and the cons of the new system. Most of the drama could have been avoided if they were more open about it instead of trying to be sneaky hoping no one would notice or care.
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I've noticed in live service game discussions that usually when people say "this will only affect whales", it's the literal opposite of the truth. The whales are never the ones who are actually inconvenienced by a change, it's always the players who are tight on currency.
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>>575460250
The worst for you, yeah. All those months spamming and they still got fes.
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>>575460334
Throw it at the regular banner since it has no rate up student
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>>575460113
>>575460227
What is Blue Archive? A glorified visual novel. Getting a student for her Momos is more important than getting them to UE50 for plats. The vast majority of people do not give a shit about that. They want cute girls to gawk at.
>>575460226
Did you conveniently ignore the part where I said Nexon will make more money?
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>>575460318
And the right answer is none, our mobs are peak
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>>575460196
I doubt it. It overlaps with Rio's normal skill. There's no way you don't use Rio here.
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>>575460090
gookako
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>>575458803
I disagree with it being a fundamental change, since that would imply the announcement warrant a require a higher level of deference/respect/attention than it already got (i.e. having it announced during the anniversary stream)
but we can disagree.

also your analogy is bad, here is the real analogy
>restaurant always announces its dishes at the start of the day (this is an allegory to the stream)
>including the beloved Turkey Sandwich (gacha)
>during the announcement it gets revealed they will switch out turkey for ham, because its on average tastier but makes you fatter (only a problem for fat people (allegory to whales))
>"the way this got announced is UNACCEPTABLE"
do you now understand why I think having it be its own announcement is stupid?

>>575458945
fine as in acceptable. I don't mind them announcing it like this
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>>575460337
>dude just go up and show some charts to a bunch of degenerate gacha gamblers who don't understand probability
>also explicitly say this is bad for whales fuck you
If the fact that people here still don't understand the new system after 24 hours is anything to go by that would not have worked
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>>575459825
Under the old system you don't even start. That's what budgeting means. You plan what you need ahead of time with clear mind instead of making decision under pressure.

Trying your luck inevitably lead to loss or regret. Save your pyros, don't fall for their tricks.
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>>575460431
sex
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>>575460148
It's not but it's far better than the 10x tickets doing nothing but the low chance of a rate-up character that you may or may not want since you don't want the ticket to go to waste because it's about to expire.
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>>575460197
>supposed to be an angel
>has serpent eyes
Not a holly bibble expert knower. Can anyone explain?
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>>575460334
Pity doesn't carryover, it transforms into crafting mats when the banner expires.
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>>575460306
yeah everyone in the thread believes you
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>>575460090
>cumbucha
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>>575460414
I forgot that banner existed.
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>>575460223
Variance is actually lower, which is better if you're not a gambling addict.
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>>575460450
I don't drink cum or kambucha
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>>575460416
>The new system is good if you stop playing the game!
Great advice, retard
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>>575460306
Your posts are becoming very identifiable.
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So did the gooks sent their trucks and cow shit to nexon office yet or what?
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>>575460431
We could have more cute posts like these if doomfags would fuck off already...
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>>575460250
No amount of precognition could have prepared us for this
If you suggested something like this before the fes you'd be laughed at
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>>575460430
Why would you use Rio? That would mean you are forced into using DAru who will struggle to survive due to her armor type. I also expect some dual DPS comp with Iroha to be the best option to make use of her Wakamo-like mechanic. SHoshino healer Iroha BRio/Toki or something.
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NEW IBUKI FANART!!!!!
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>>575460586
You mean if Nexon didn't screw the pooch live on the fes stream
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>>575460401
I was already resigned to a pandemonium fes but it was still harrowing to see it live.
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>>575460452
Whales literally does not give a fuck if it's good for them or not. They spend regardless because they have that much disposable income in the first place. If anything, it's the equivalent of taxing more from the rich.
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>changes nobody asked
>good
pick one
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>>575460547
Gookakos drink Buchou Cum though.
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>>575460586
>we could have more heckin cute slop if you shut up and take Nexon's dick
Kys
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>>575460416
i was being sarcastic with my comment about the pakeji, that shit is a scam no matter how i look at it, do you want me to out /s at the end of my message?
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>>575460638
>Why would you use Rio?
Because you want to heal the lantern as fast as possible. It's either Rio+healer or double healer.
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>>575460090
My cum tastes good so it's not a problem
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>>575460647
The thumbnail looked like that test, haha
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>>575460670
I asked for better gacha rates.
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>>575460653
I’m sure it was. You can look forward to many more defeats at our hands in the future.
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>>575459259
it's a warzone here and I didn't follow the thread
my bad.
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>>575438116
looks like it werkz. it can be run manually, on a schedule on a pc or on a schedule on a github repo using a workflow. I just tested on my private git. I'll test it on github itself directly to see if it works and if it does I will just publish it as a template. I only tested locally with firefox and on chromium
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>>575460647
>everyone will skip Iroha for Ibuki now
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
GET FUCKED SCHIZONIGGER
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>>575312304
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>>575460416
Yes and they just made it more expensive to get all the cute girls you want to read momos of
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>>575460664
If it's implied they don't give a fuck but if the devs explicitedly say this new system will make their eleph pull rates worse in exchange for everyone else having slight better odds they will 100% riot about it.
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>>575460647
kek
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I'm gonna skip fes for china actually
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>>575460285
I have a dedicated cumming towel, for cum cups it switches to whatever is at hand at a given moment.
>>575460320
>Why kambucha?
fizzy healthy and good for libido
>aoba
why?
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>>575460849
No bananazoos?
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>>575460638
>why would you use Rio in Hieronymus
Duping cards lets you rush the lantern and pump damage at the end.
We dont know Satsuki's numbers yet but I doubt that running a second healer will be able to make up for no longer being able to dupe+buff your damage EX once the def shredding is maxed out.
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>>575460849
what's up
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Can somebody explainto me why S. Iroha is more red Wakamo than red Mika?
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>>575460750
Someone should edit it heehee
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>>575460452
The charts would have had more effect if they were presented officially instead of random people on twitter, yes. Better or worse depends on how you spin it. You could say that you're making it more f2p friendly.
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>>575458542
What if I'm nine inches and want to go balls deep in Koharu instead
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So they just respond that they ain't gonna do shit.
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>>575460647
Is this rael?
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>>575460973
damage balloon mechanic that pops accumulated damage after 15 seconds
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>>575460782
>You can look forward to many more defeats at our hands in the future.
I don't think I will
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>>575460796
No worries Sensei, it really is a mess right now, so I respect that.
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>>575460549
You're unironically not playing the game the way most people are so you do not get to speak.
>>575460875
Nope, and just in case you missed it amidst the FUD, your rolls are objectively, mathematically proven to be better with the new system. It's your Eleph/Eligmas that are being neutered, and as >>575460728 pointed out, the Jews have a solution for that.
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>>575460973
Because she doesn't do damage on her own, she needs a second attacker to charge her damage.
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>>575461008
They'll just say that it's technically better for you under most circumstances and that will be the end of it
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>>575461008
Did you really expect anything else? It's fucking Nexon after all
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>>575460638
>That would mean you are forced into using DAru
not anymore with sIbuki
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>>575460334
Why do you have your pity built if you didn't want anyone.

>>575460503
Retard.
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>>575460982
Then you have all the schizos that will say
>don't trust them their numbers are fake
and it will make them look worse. There are people who unironically believe the gacha rates are rigged.
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Im scared bros. They gave global the +100 elephs on pickup early with the shupo banners, they would take it away from us early too, right?
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>>575460995
Koharu can only take like 4 inches, max.
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>>575461040
israel
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>>575455915
saar you forgot to read ze comments! this is not mumbai quality standard!!
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>Pandemonium is the least popular club in the game they’ll never get an even-
>Okay they might get an event but you’re delusional if you think it’ll be fe-
>u-ummm okay they might have gotten fes but iroha will be the welfare or limited, you can’t really expect her to be f-
>NOOOOO DAMN YOU EVIL LOLICHUDS PANDEMONIUM IS PROBLEMATIC STOP STOOOPPP
>>575461063
You don’t think you will? Are you ready for how much I’ll laugh at you again?
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>>575461145
Yes
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>>575460090
Did it at least taste good
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>>575460887
Aoba has hair color of cum and probably is too tired from her wagie job to realise her co-workers are cumming inside it.
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>>575461145
they'll accelerate too so we get the update earlier
don't worry, everyone is being hit with the update at the same time, so this won't affect your raid rankings!
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>>575460875
The worst is this. Love GDD? good luck on getting the whole package.
Love Pandemonium? Good luck with that.
Love Wildhunt? good luck.
Only retards defending it are the faggots who are completely unaffected because they burn their entire stash for top meta units every once in a while
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>>575459829
There's still SMiyako ;)
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>>575460670
but someone did ask for them
the shareholders
the new CEO (ex-EA btw)
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>>575461126
S.Iroha + B.Rio + I.Marie + S.Hoshino, Rio + S.Ibuki
That's my prediction. Another clonenigger raid.
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>>575461129
Because I'm arutarded and/or I failed my 50/50.
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>>575459829
The funny part is if they made the archive pool bigger this 50/50 bullshit would be so much more palatable. Imagine if the ongoing pool was only the past year or two of new banners so you were basically guaranteed at least a spook of someone new, or better yet make the 50/50 guarantee a new student in the first place
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>>575461089
>Most people not play the autobattler part in the autobattler game
If you really think nobody is playing the game then you are truly retarded.
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>>575461213
yeah I mostly eat fruit and veggies
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>>575461185
>ignores what people are actually complaining about
typical of you
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>>575461261
Just dickroll for them instead of for the meta students. What's the difference?
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>>575460982
Regardless of whether the changes are good or not, the way they presented them was just retarded. I mean this is a pretty big change to a system we've had for over 5 years, so you'd think they'd want to alleviate the major concerns people have over it,. You can't just say you're getting rid of sparks, adding pity and 50/50, and expect there to not be any controversy over it; literally anyone could have told them the reaction they'd get. Everything that has happened since the stream has been entirely predictable.
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>>575460430
>>575460638
You use sSatsuki, Niko, sIroha, bRio/Toki/dHina, sIbuki and some other special with def down or group buffs.
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>>575461053
>>575461104
But the guaranteed crit is definitely from Mika right? She looks like a pretty good support DPS to me
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>>575461153
Taking advantage of bullshit durability to force all nine inches into Koharu is one of the best parts, though
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>>575461354
child....
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>>575461326
>if they made the archive pool bigger this 50/50 bullshit would be so much more palatable
making the archive pool bigger screws up newbabs who dont have core units
the game just does not give out enough archive gibs to get them from the archive banner without wasting jims on them.
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>>575460879
Whales always get fleeced no matter what, whether it's a new endgame mode where they need to spend the most to top the charts or a new way to enhance/ascend their characters, casuals will ignore that shit but whales will need to spend more no matter what to max everything out. They are well aware of how the game works, they just spend regardless.
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>>575460452
They do understand the new system. They also understand the implications you refuse to acknowledge. They know the system inevitably leads to worse experience, misery and regret and that 10% increase over the long time will not balance it. People ran away from other games because of it.
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>>575320018
>thread that killed Blue Archive and bag
>has Iroha FES in the OP
Poetry
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>>575460334
I was wondering about this in previous threads.
Like the first response said - you can bin it on another banner - iirc limited and standards are split too, or did I get the wrong end of the stick on that one?

It's also worth thinking about the scenario where you're ON a guarantee. You'd have to roll to and lose a coinflip and then not keep going for a character.
I know I roll for characters I want. There's never going to be a scenario where I spend 100 on someone I don't care about - I either keep going or I won't start to begin with.
A GA that gives you a rateup on a fresh start, not after a lost coinflip is purely a good thing.

The fact you need to think about this convoluted shit is one of the reasons I hate this. The old system was elegant.
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>>575461385
Who's tanking the boss lil b
We're talking lunatic here
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>>575459829
Sensei...
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>>575461185
I don't think I will continue to play the game. You will have to flex the pandemonium victories in front of someone else.
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>>575461398
I think her numbers will be real good. I definitely don't expect her to be "support DPS". She's the main dps who needs a slave attacker to "buff her".
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>>575460664
>>575461424
whales definitely do give it a shit if they feel like the game is not respecting them anymore
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>>575461330
himari is retarded
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>>575461423
How the fuck will archive recruitment work in the new system?
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kisaki's teenpussy
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>>575461381
Yeah, that's my point, they went pretty dumb about it no matter how you look at it.
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>>575461424
FRR materials were timegated and whaling could not get you more.
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>>575461450
>>575320064
third post btw
can't make this shit up
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>>575460334
Well you're probably not going to have pity at all unless you're doing something most players don't, like not completing sparks / not pulling till you get the student / pulling for dupes.
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>>575461521
This is not an airport, you don't need to announce your departure.
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>>575461398
And it's only guaranteed crit on EX, not all damage. Obviously that's the important part, but that's more akin to Saori or S.Miyu than Mika.
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>>575461365
It’s a bit tiring to add the note that the change is obviously getting reverted. But yeah, I take great pleasure in the seething of the troons mad about Pandemonium and Gehenna getting content, a whole fes and volume. And especially in their seethe over Iroha and Ibuki. Don’t think for a moment I’ve forgotten the insistence they couldn’t even get a dedicated event. It brings a great smile to my face, to think back to those angry jeet and tranny replies and how mad they are now.
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>>575461564
It'll stay the same as its been, now its also an archive of the old gacha days
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>>575461330
You severely overestimate how many autists are out there hunting for plats. I guarantee you the majority of players aren't even tapping into TA/GA. And you certainly don't need UE50 to read the event stories.
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I just want to talk about how cute Tsubasa is.
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>>575460664
>they have that much disposable income in the first place
Most whales are poorfags with no impulse control
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>>575461629
kek'd
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>>575461398
but calling her mika makes it sound like she is the main dealter when in reality she is a sub dps/support crossbreed, wakamo was our best blue option for years but only after kuroko and the new damage cap the bounce mechanic showed its true potential
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>>575461472
Satsuki is a big girl.
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>>575461089
>t's your Eleph/Eligmas that are being neutered
This isn't true exactly true
Farming dupes (student elephs) from a given banner is nerfed but overall eleph/ligma income while not easy to quantify is still roughly the same as before

The main thing with the new gacha is that the previous "sweetspot" breakpoints were very easy to recognize (i.e. only ever roll in strict multiples of 200) whereas they aren't as easy to see with the new gacha and they don't feel as rewarding to the player.
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>>575461423
Sounds like they should adopt the HSR system and let you pick which students to add to the archive pool.
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>>575461729
for me
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What a cute dork
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>>575461521
You will continue to be defeated not just by Pandemonium, but also by BA, as you always have. You never played the game anyway, but I’m sure you’ll be back here the next time as well. Look forward to it.
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>>575461702
piisu piisu
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>>575461381
Exactly. They communicated badly. But hopefully the disingenous posting about it will slower down
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>>575461695
genshi reje-oh wait
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Is it gay if I want to be Kisaki and do lewd things in front of a mirror
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https://may.2chan.net/b/src/1785158595003.jpg
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>>575461702
We could had Tokifes instead of this bullshit...
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>>575461761
The sweetspot is to stop after getting someone. It's extremely easy to recognize.
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>>575461805
feels bad Makoto is stuck in a shit club filled with shitters, she should have been a side kick to Aru in PS68
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>>575455915
saar how are boobs and vagene today saar
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>>575461239
Gluegurt
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>>575461850
Oh fuck, I didn't even check futaba for their tears
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>>575461185
>game is finally dead
>yay sistas we won, we killed BA
grats, I guess?
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>>575461398
Mika also has the 2x damage at hign hp mechanic.
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>>575459556
Actually there's a third thing going on: Nexon doesn't think Blue Archive is worthy of their resources anymore and wants to replace it with other games. Nexon has shown repeatedly that Blue Archive isn't really making them much money, and Yostar pockets most of the merch money they make. So despite how popular BA is in Japan, Nexon isn't actually happy with the IP.

Project RX is basically a BA successor but completely owned by Nexon, they will profit heavily off of it compared to BA if it becomes popular.
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>>575458219
>stop pulling as soon as you get both characters
That's me, I also don't care about plat so the ligma isn't a concern, thus I hope they stay with the new system
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Say something nice to your new John Nexon!
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You used to bing me on my cell phone
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>>575461915
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>>575461827
you wish genshin's designs were this clean
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what's next for /bag/?
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>>575461978
So they are purposely trying to kill BA? I wonder how rights do Yostar own for Nexon to commit to this kind of rugpull
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>>575461552
Whales never get respect no matter what. The community knows the game is getting funded by them but they still shit on them any chance they get. Even when the game exists to fleeced them, they pay for it any way because as long as the game keeps giving them cute and funny, they keep paying.
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>out of devil's lettuce
>have to smoke the juices left in a glass pipe I used to smoke the dank before
feels bad mane
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>>575461987
Proof that he's at fault?
Checkmate
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>>575461850
This is the absolute minimum level of stimulation Koharu should be feeling at any given moment, much better if she's feeling 2-10 times that
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>>575461997
Now you're just somebody that I used to bing
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>ctrl+f revert
>screenshot all posts of irohaschizo
>sit on it until EoS and then post the collage so he kills himself
too lazy to do it can someone do it for me?
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Man I was hyped for foxes
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>>575462025
It's true though? Besides Makoto only Iroha and her dynamic with Ibuki is somewhat good or average even in Pandemonium.
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>>575462191
Don't worry they're changing it for FOX banner on global. Acceleration of QoL
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>>575461165
So why does it happen only when you drop 800 rolls on one banner and not multiple?
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>>575461951
I think you’re the one who wants to be called sis, right? Since your kind tend to pretend you’re women? You’ve said you’re just about to get a win and BA is just about to die, for years. But you never win. Interesting. Surely this time, right? Do you even believe yourself?
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hopeposting
>august
Odyssey, first green students
>september
A2 Vol. Ex Ch. 3, Yukino
>october
new Wild Hunt event with Akira+Niyaniya(Manami)
>november
valk fire department
>december
festival department new years
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>>575462118
He's literally the one who suggested the new gacha system. TLDR "you're not spending enough!"
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All I need is Chiaki
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>>575462336
No one knows if that's true or not
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New system is amazing
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>>575462303
I don't really give a fuck about future content, yesterday's stream soured the whole experience for me
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>>575462336
Sauce?
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>>575462361
rubber rectangle
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>>575462286
I'm not that anon but as an AGP enjoyer, I do not claim these people
P.S. I want to be Kisaki and do some good sucking
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>>575462361
The hair ear thing is just boner-inducing.
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>>575462303
anything other than
>changes reverted, execs fired
is just doomposting
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>>575462097
>how rights do Yostar own
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>>575462110
i know whales in other games that quit/deleted their accounts on the spot as soon as they felt that devs decided to fuck them in the ass extra hard as an attempt at blatant monetization
no whale cares what filthy poors in the community think about them but they do care if devs turn out to be scambags
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>>575460647
Next thread should be Ibuki with this pic as the OP
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>>575462456
It was revealed to me last night in a dream
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>>575461701
There you go, their poor impulse control means they will spend no matter what the devs do to them. Gamblers don't care if you know the odds are stacked against them inside a casino, they spend money regardless.
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>>575462462
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>>575461424
Yeah, the thing with gachas is that they will always have a whales money up until EoS. Some may quit along the way but there is a reason why these companies still do it, its a pattern, they know the profits are worth more than any possible loss.
In the other hand, metaslaves that spend their stash every now and then for the super OP units and then just wing everything else are the only retards defending it because they are the least affected, they dislike the backlash because they now get to pay in a different way. They call it smart spending but in reality its just metaslavery with extra layers of cope.
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I just wanted to be happy with Satsuki...
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seeing how many people are against the pity/coinflip system made me wonder how people who play HoYoverse games cope with that system
plus they have to worry about weapon banner too
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>>575460647
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Babu Archive
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>>575462303
Meh I can't stop thinking about all the new girls I won't get because of the stupid pity system
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>>575461874
Let's say I "kinda want" a given student
I don't want her enough to not roll at all, but I also don't want her enough to justify spending a full 200 rolls on her

With the old system you either didn't roll at all or rolled to 200, got spooked by the student or the duo-banner along the way and were able to spark or you got unlucky and had to spark. In any case the game essentially made the decision for you to stop rolling after 200 because it's very easy to recognize that going beyond this natural breaking point would be suboptimal and stupid.

With the new system YOU have to make the decision of first going to 100 pity, then deciding whether it's worth going for more if you lost coinflip or going for the other student if you won it. The new system has the player make a lot more conscious decisions, which is exactly what Nexon is banking on because they understand that humans are bad at making good decisions when gambling and probabilities are involved.
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>>575456180
The chances are lower at 200 because they are higher before that meaning you get units earlier on average. Do you not understand math?
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Why does the Kayoko earbud page give me a 404 when I click on view product? plz help
https://vivionblue.com/en/pages/blue-archive2607
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>>575462418
>>575462456
https://x.com/Waifunomics/status/2081403573921869843
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>>575462303
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All I heard is that the new gacha system makes going to 400 neigh impossible so as someone who has done that multiple times I happily welcome our new gacha system overlord
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>>575462617
Just be happy forehead.
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>>575460647
This is why the older system is better
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>>575321150
This is the post when BA instantly went straight to shit
Remember the time and the post number and all the replies to it
Before that things were normal, everyone was having fun and super excited for Gehenna summer
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170+30 = recruit student
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>>575452582
I dropped almost out of top 100 today despite never going below 50 this season. It's not my fault...
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>>575462097
like the other anon mentioned, yostar probably has exclusive merch rights in japan. Nexon pulling this is probably testing if they can strongarm yostar into sharing some of those profits by adjusting the contract cause they can sink the ship and take yostar down with them.
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>>575460468
If you don't even start, then it will become the most boring gacha game in the world. You're basically only rolling twice in a year. It's all a trick but doing nothing but saving is absolutely awful. You get what you want but you will burn yourself out.
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>>575462264
that'll make global community throw a giga melty
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>>575462618
They games are too popular, not playing them triggers FOMO when they can't discuss it with their peers, so they have to swallow their pride. The edngame is copeable to play when rolling 1 character and their weapon for all meaningful rewards.
Except HSR. That one is a whale milking simulator lmao.
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>>575462618
A combination of baby's first gacha and the game having a much worse gacha system before the rework.
Which means, they dont know any better
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>>575462819
javascript sensei....
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>>575462618
Those games are cesspits for the most mentally ill npcs possible. Look at when they post here. That’s the kind of audience gachas with males, yuri, and other lgbt shit will always attract. And they have no real thoughts, mere husks that try to dirty up everything.
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>>575462701
That's not a source, you might as well crop some anon saying he caused holocaust as a proof.
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My ears have been ringing for a whole hour now
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>>575462618
Theres a difference with joining a game with that gacha from the start so you have the expectation of the gacha fking over you and having a 5 year old gacha suddenly change course and adjusting their pulls.
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>>575462660
The decision to go to 200 is not always black and white. If you got Kisaki at 60 were you going to roll for Reijo? You still have to make a decision. I had over 1000 crafting fragments at one point.
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>>575462959
>there is little differences between /vmg/ and hoyoslop generals
Its unreal how much a game's direction can affect the outcome of its playerbase.
Do they not get tired of it?
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>>575462618
Any gacha system exists to be unfair, and defending any of them is cope. Just pick the one that you know how to deal with.
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>>575463052
pov: you're an asian sensei
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oh so the rsusazw was the irohanigger too
imagine my shock
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>>575461423
Everyone that is farmable via hard stages and the various coins should not be in the general gacha pool and instead moved to archive.
Being spooked by Hiyori, Misaki, Kaede, or sWakamo shouldnt be possible.
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>>575462618
homoyo games have different circumstances that make the pity less painful
>new limited every 40 days or so
>1 banner at a time
>no elephs/ue needed
compare that with ba having up to 4 limited banners at once every 2 weeks
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>>575463057
That's beside the point of my post, faggot.
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>>575463114
>not grabbing the horns
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>>575463125
They’re the exact type that belong in such places. It’s a bit sad almost.
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>>575462361
>>575462461
>>575462565
>>575462926
God, she's so cute. Finally we'll get some Chiaki art.
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>>575463129
I'd rather deal with the one we currently have
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>>575463129
that sounds like cope
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>>575463129
Except limbus, because you can farm every character for free.
Do not bring up paid BP egos
Now, WOULDN'T IT BE FUCKING FUNNY IF DOGRECTOR CHANGES THE GACHA SYSTEM? HA HA...
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>>575462926
>>575462909
I have such a good idea for OC but I'm too tired and incompetent to make it.
Chiaki's VA was on the stream with shrek hair right? She got shopped with green skin by someone here. Combine that picture with Chiaki's camera and the Shrek *snap* meme (pic related)
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>>575460647
Someone edit the last panel with pregnancy test and post it as OP
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>>575463204
Sorry but i don't want to hurt her head while fucking.
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>>575463129
>unfair
The poor should fear the rich.
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>>575463217
I wish she would spook me already
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>>575459093
>t. ranny
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>>575462303
>30th July
changes reverted

Nothing else matters.
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>>575463178
>the troon seething over lolis and Gehenna is also a jeet seething over America
I can’t say I’m surprised.
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>>575463324
No, OP should be Tsumugi's because janny deleted her rightful thread.
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>>575462456
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Hahaha nice joke FES, funny joke Kim
Seriously, real FES when? Stream link?
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>>575462618
The systems in those games are actually much better but you know nothing about them aside from them having the 50/50 coinflip.
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>>575463279
No shit sherlock.
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>>575463179
i get your point but thats literally not what the archive banner was designed for. it already contains students that you cannot farm.
its retarded to believe that nexon wont shift more non farmable students into archive. there is just not enough hard stages to make all students farmable.
retarded oldfags think that
>omg archive banner so good i dont have to worry about kaedes anymore!
but archive banner fucks newbros the most
its the first iteration of the brand new predatory nexon practices that were introduced alongside the battlepass
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>limbus
I'd rather ironic pdfs of /bag/ than real ones from there
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>>575461987
>>575462118
The thing is that Patrick's strategy for Nexon is to essentially focus on making "obsessions" for players. He want to divert resources from underperforming projects into IPs that people will "build their lives around".
From Nexon's POV, Blue Archive is an underperforming IP. Obviously this is the opposite when you look from Yostar's POV, the game is extremely popular in japan and merch sales are insane, but Nexon isn't seeing any of that profit so for them the game isn't doing great.
Nexon has two big gachas in the work currently, Project RX and Dungeon Fighter ARAD. They would absolutely try to divert resources and players from BA to those two games if they can.
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>check rentry for updarted filter
>limbus still isn't on it
>5050 or 50/50 isn't on it
>my bro raisu still is
op guides are run by seaniggers
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>>575463372
>one day after everyone rolls
Devilish. That would blow up even harder.
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>>575463376
nope it's just that the picture is attached to most retarded shit possible, like the one you just made
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Can I get a (you) with THAT by the way
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>>575463392
He lost the 50/50, sorry
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>575463376
What is this nigga even talking about?
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>>575461695
So what does Mo mean.
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>>575463480
I don't think that not releasing the patch or reverting it in the same day is not feasible.
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>>575463441
I don't think ibukisubhuman is ironic.
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>>575463446
Well with what they've shown so far RX isn't shaping to be anything ever remotely special, so that's asking to get an axe as well...
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coom in doom
rope in hope
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>>575463106
You are correct because it's not stricly black and white unlike how I presented it but in the vast majority of cases it honestly was
Single banners and rerun banners where you're only aiming for a single given student are one thing, but how many times did you not finish a new limited banner spark after getting spooked by the first student at any point within the first 200? Personally I would only consider it if I got BOTH rate ups within maybe 130 rolls, needless to say this didn't come up very often

Anyways I don't think the new system is that bad but I can see how nexon believes it will make people more likely to spend money
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>>575463316
inb4 he delayed the canto 10 because PM is developing Artifact clone which will be revealed at TGS
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>>575462698
Please respond I really want these
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>>575463421
They hate it because of genshin. It always comes down to gacha fans having this irrational hatred to the game and its influence on the industry.
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>>575463446
>but Nexon isn't seeing any of that profit
Why don't they just sell merch overseas?
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I will admit, if you're objective is to make me dislike Iroha then you're doing a good job
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>>575463532
Meant to >>575463376
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>>575463038
Tinnitus Sensei...
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>>575463740
>Selling precious merch for white pipo
Are you out of your mind
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>>575463424
okay..?
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>>575463532
I wouldn't know I filter shit like
>troon
>tranny
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>>575463482
Your seethe and tears only strengthen the sense of glorious victory I feel right now. Thank you. Never give up. Live in anger in the shadow of humanity until you die.
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>>575463665
works for me maybe it's blocked on your country for some reason
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I think we should go the taimanin approach
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>>575462698
>>575463665
Why the fuck would anyone here know the reason you fucking mouthbreather?
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>>575462618
>wonder how people who play HoYoverse games cope with that system
I can only speak about Genshin because it's the only hoyo game I've played but this game doesn't give players any incentive to spend, imagine if BA had no pvp no plat and no rankings at all
To this day I still have no idea how they got people to spend so much money on this game
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True if big
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I block, mute, and report every yuri and/or female sensei artist on xitter. It's vomit inducing every time I see that shit
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>>575463987
Are there at least the equivalent of lunatic level raids even if there isn't a ranking?
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>>575463961
I wonder if Ibuki pisses while bathing in the sea....
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>>575463987
The pandemic effect. They just got lucky with the timing, especially with all the normies at home and suddenly discovering anime for the first time since OG Ghost in The Shell
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>>575463665
Yeah try with a jap VPN.
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>>575463874
If you're playing any sort of gacha, you're already coping by default. Unless we're all here posting about a game that we don't play, no shit sherlock, we're all coping from the start.
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>>575463583
ibukigod is one of us, unlike hagfags going through a teenage phase
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>>575463740
Unironically because of Twittard types, a lot of western business execs think the mindset of the 800 pound Twitter trannies is how the average person feels so they assume that doing something like selling BA merc would result in their entire revenue stream collapsing overnight from a boycott
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>>575463987
Isn't Genshin a reskinned Breath of the Wild clone? I thought it banked on BoTW's popularity and gameplay
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>>575464026
>dramatubing with AI thumbnails
subhuman
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>>575464081
Weak
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>>575463931
The Taimanin gacha is a time bomb, I'm 999% sure the second it announces EOS they will do one last event with a bunch of NTR events to make every single girl get gangbanged by orcs while the MC watches or some insane degenerate garbage like that, mark my fucking words
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BA yuri hits different
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>>575464160
>ibukigod is one of us
lol
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>>575462618
I play them and it's fine. Helps that I have better than average luck with coinflips in all games except ZZZ (I got fucked there at one time hard).
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>>575463591
We literally know nothing about the game other than what the artstyle looks like, even according to Nexon themselves the genre is "anime-style game" which means literally jack shit.
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>>575464160
>one of us
He's not even from /bag/
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>>575464026
>this is the kind of thing the subhumans who hate ba watch
kek
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>>575463451
I don't see limbus being brought up every single time as a vector to shit on the game, otherwise I would've added every single gacha to that section
I am seriously considering adding hoyo to it though

also thanks for the feedback, /sea(fag|nig)/i has been added
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>>575464139
>w-we're all coping
absolutely pathetic mindset
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>>575464092
Zero scoreboard system. The hardest content in the game gives temporary skins for your weapons that you have to beat every cycle to keep using.
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>>575464137
The thing is, I can see the product on the front page and the article, it only 404s when I try to go to the purchase page. Wouldn't it not show up at all if it was region locked?
I'll see if I can get to it with a vpn though.
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>>575464225
I'm fully expecting it to just be Nexon's flavor of Genshin, if it's literally anything else I'll be happy
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>>575464345
I don't care about the scoreboard. I care about the gameplay itself. I would still roll meta students to do lunatic raids even if there was no ranking in BA.
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>>575463882
it takes a real man to deny what's in front of him so you're the biggest MAN here I suupose
stick an iron in your mouth and pull the trigger
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No fucking way the bew pitty system is real? Is this true? Which live stream? Please someone qrd me
What happened?!
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>>575464139
>we're all coping
that's just you
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>>575464345
>The hardest content in the game gives temporary skins for your weapons that you have to beat every cycle to keep using
What the fuck
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>>575464381
even if you get in you will need a jap address/middleman service like tenso because this shit 100% isn't going to be shipped outside of Japan.
if I were you I'd prep my documents (water/electricity bills) and apply for something like tenso right now, the verification process can take weeks and you might not make it.
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>>575464381
Click on show all products button right below and it will show an empty store, for the same reason I assume.
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>people here are actually complaining that genshit doesn't have predatory fomo-inducing pvp systems where your success is entirely determined by how much you spent on the gacha
>the same people will adamantly refuse to even consider the 50/50 system simply because 'it's from genshin so it must be bad'
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>>575464092
Not sure about now because I haven't played the game in years but back then around release there definitely wasn't
The game had a bi-monthly system that gave rolls (kind of similar to TA/GA), everything but the last difficulty was piss-easy and even the last difficulty wasn't difficult for meta players, definitely a LOT more accessible than BA's lun or even torment
Again I haven't played in years so this might have changed but this was exactly how it was the first year
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>>575460810
>python3
My god... is the 2/3 split still a thing fucking 18 years later? I hate Python so much.
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>>575464382
Wish granted, it's action rhythm game
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>>575464457
Your kind are the ones that kill themselves the most, right? I won’t tell you to do it. Because I don’t need to. Blue Archive will long outlive you, and you’ll never get a single win against the evil lolichud army.
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>>575463441
>limbus
Dont remind me, I am so glad BA doesnt attract Roblox larps or faggots being so performative as them
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>>575464457
Am I a REAL man if I want to be Kisaki and get gangbanged
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>>575458926
>>575458926
>>575458926
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>>575462118
Hes in charge so he is responsible for everything.
The same way that the parent is responsible when their child causes problems.
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>>575464295
Sure bro, the old gacha system was totally designed to be generous and fair, and does not exist to milk you. Whales most certainly do not get any benefits over f2p.
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yuribait is browncoded btw
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>>575463446
>Nexon isn't seeing any of that profit
of course they're seeing that profit, otherwise they wouldn't have a partnership

they aren't seeing ENOUGH money (in their eyes)
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>>575464473
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/
Do your homework faggot
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Asuna… couldn’t save it…
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190 rolls
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>>575464382
ARAD is already looking to be their take on genshin, so my guess is RX is trying to be something else instead.
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>>575464710
>>575464710
>>575464710
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>>575464574
We have enough of them too, the UUUUUOOOOHHHHH cunnyfags, story glazers and shonen powerscalers
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>>575464661
Grim
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I saved Blue Archive. Thank me later.
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>>575464714
Lol what the fuck is this, a 3d dfo spinoff finally after 20 years?
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>>575464661
Miracles only happen once, Sensei
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>>575464661
only asunafags still cope about C&C saving the game
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>>575462618
All endgame modes in swapslop are terrible and not all that rewarding (some BA raids are fun, some are infuriating, shit like abyss or tower is neither, it's fucking boring and a chore). If you don't care about that then you don't need the weapon, or UE equivalents, or anything else. You can beat the story with free characters. And a team is 3-4 characters rather than 6-10. But then you're the equivalent of someone who actually only plays BA for the story.
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>>575464424
>>575464542
They added this relatively hard endgame mode that forces you to sweat and optimize only like during the last year or so? Ironically when I was playing it a lot couple years back there was little to do and people were begging for hard content. And now that I barely do dailies they added this shit and it's a chore.
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>>575464026
Absolute larper, bro couldn't even handle the half anni bluefes units themselves
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>>575464857
Thank you John Sweden for the EoS
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>>575464181
>Isn't Genshin a reskinned Breath of the Wild clone?
Not in a million years
It was made to look like it's a BoTW clone at first (it still copies some of its elements though) from those comparison videos, but it doesn't have the sandbox element like the original.
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>>575464526
>Homoslop changing meta as fast as they can to shill the new characters
>all while the powercreep gets as intense as it gets and people keep getting scraps for pulls
>And one the elements got "reworked" several times just to make it barely decent in the game
I cannot imagine how rough it must be for non-whales to try out the new endgame
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>>575463434
>there is just not enough hard stages to make all students farmable
Did you forget about coin farmables that were explicitly mentioned in what you responded to?
If the goal of archive is to thin out the active gacha pool, then they should continue to make efforts to ensure it stays slim instead of only changing things when it gets fat again.
The lack of farmable shun/ako/cherino is the only fault of the archive banner and they amended the cherino problem by giving her a hard stage.
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>>575464978
asuna saved kivotos
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>>575463596
h-hey just checking if ur gonna do the raid guide for tomorrow
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>>575464739
>uohhg cunnyfags
they fit right into the game's direction though, and gatekeep pretty nicely
>story glazers
I assume that by this you mean the ones who hail BA's story as the best shit out there, in which case you are right
>shonen power scalers
these are such a minority, they are barely worth mentioning.
But unlike any of those, Roblox larps and normgroids adjacents like performative faggots are highly invasive and extremely vocal. They are going through a phase, they will quit whatever game they follow once they shitup the entire place. We dont have something as close to that in BA, just look at the massive difference between normalfag adjacent gacha like homoslop
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>>575465728
I forgot yesterday but it'll be up no worries
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>>575464526
>gookako is an astroturf hoyofag
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>>575465761
I guess you're right, we have way less underage fans too
BA is a blessing for passionate otakus and I want it to stay that way, hopefully the new gacha won't suck too much
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