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No devs listened【Important Notice】Starting from this pickup recruitment, the student recruitment system will be renewed.As this contains important information regarding "recruitment," please be sure to check the details before maintenance.
mika is ready for child birth
Something is wrong with my Reisa.
https://bluearchive.jp/news/newsJump/679It's fucking over
Wakamo
>>575540850https://bluearchive.jp/news/newsJump/679
URGENT NEWS>https://x.com/Blue_ArchiveJP/status/2081968032797364716>【重要なお知らせ】今回のピックアップ募集より、生徒募集システムがリニューアルされます。「募集」に関する重要な内容ですので、ぜひメンテナンス前に詳細をご確認ください。>Starting from this pickup recruitment, the student recruitment system will be renewed.As this contains important information regarding "recruitment," please be sure to check the details before maintenance.>https://bluearchive.jp/news/newsJump/679
Fuck pikachuman
>>575540850Good. The new system is better
https://bluearchive.jp/news/newsJump/679>exhaustive numbers based defenceoh this is gonna be good
None of you fucking tards would commit incest you're just overly stimulated
Press S to spit on Electronic Arts and its spawns
>>575541003>predatory hoyo gacha is good for you actually
It over
>>575541015If I had a sister, she'd overstimulate me
I was there...I was there when Pandemonium fes killed blue archive.
>>575541015You can't hide it anymore, Momoi is an incest baby.
>>575540850Nice. Glad the devs are keeping the system that benefits me specifically.
>>575541015We called it wincest you fucking newfag
>>575540950Reisa is sexy now?
>>575541048It's the industry standard you absolute retard
QRD:EA wonYostar wonFeminists wonNexon spiritual shareholders won/bag/ lostCunny lost
soon
>>575541005>>575540987>no changeit's overpandemonium killed the gameMika is right
>>575541146How does killing the game benefit you?
>>575540850God bless them
BONUSES FROM PULLING IN THE GACHA▼First-time bonus>10th recruitment: Advanced Tactical Education BD Selection Box ×2>30th recruitment: Fragments of God's Name ×10>50th Call: Advanced Technical Notes Selection Box ×5>70th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>90th recruitment: Gift Box ×2>110th recruitment: Fragments of God's Name ×20>130th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>150th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>170th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>190th application: Top technical note selection box ×5>210th recruitment: Advanced Tactical Education BD Selection Box ×2>230th recruitment: Fragments of God's Name ×10>250th Call: Advanced Technical Notes Selection Box ×5>270th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>290th recruitment: Gift Box ×2>310th recruitment: Fragments of God's Name ×20>330th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>350th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>370th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>390th application: Top technical note selection box ×5 ▼Repeated benefits>20th (410) recruitment: Advanced Tactical Education BD Selection Box ×1>40th (430) recruitment: Advanced Technical Note Selection Box ×3>60th (450) submissions: Gift Box ×1>80th (470) recruitment: Keystone Fragments ×30>100th (490) recruitment: Fragments of God's Name ×10>120th (510) recruitment: Secret Note ×1>140th (530) recruitment: Top-level tactical education BD selection box ×1>160th (550) submissions: Luxury Gift Box ×1>180th (570) recruitment: Top technical note selection box ×3>200th (590) recruitment: Fragments of God's Name ×10
>>575541196the standard is SHIT
Time to put your money where you mouth is, I want to see you faggots quit and leave this general forever
>>575541015How do you know I'm not an incest baby?
>>575541240Wow these bonuses are terrible. The first-time bonuses are obviously to make people a little less mad the first time, but the repeated bonuses are absolute trash.
>>575541240That's ....pretty shit in the long term
>>575540850So you get 40 rolls while doing 200 rolls for every banner? If you roll 200 times it's unironically not so bad now.
>>575541240U rike?
>>575541273It's a free countryYou're welcome to make your own game to compete with themOtherwise, shut the fuck up commie
I can't wait for you shills to start complaing about losing your coinflips and missing recruitment points
>>575541240>Fragments of God's Name ×10Should we really be feeding our students this?Even at best, we're just turning them back into their original selves, which is bad?
>>575541240Just spend more
>>575541336Bro it's a one-time bonus
>>575541196The industry standard is below sea level.
>>575541197you rike?
>>575541240>Due to changes in the student recruitment system specifications, we will be adding a new "Recruitment Frequency Rewards" feature.>The "Recruitment Count Reward" feature counts the total number of times you've recruited in the featured recruitment, and when you reach a certain number, you can earn rewards such as a "Limited-Time 10-Recruitment Ticket" and training materials.>Unlike "Summon Charges," the count for "Recruitment Count Rewards" cannot be carried over to the next featured recruitment period. When the current featured recruitment period ends, the count and reward acquisition status will be reset. >Please note that there are two types of rewards: "first-time rewards" and "repeat rewards." Once you have received all of the "first-time rewards" during the period, any rewards received afterward will be "repeat rewards."
>>575541429It's one time bonus every banner.Repeat benefits mentioned is if you go for above 390 rolls
>>575541240>>575540987IN TOTAL FROM DOING 400 PULLS YOU GET THE FOLLOWING BONUSES:>80 pulls (eight 10 pull tickets)>60 key stones>4 blue disks>asorted notes and matsIS THE GAME SAVED OR DOOMED?
>>575541240so around 40 free tickets per 200? Not bad, i was expecting 10 per 200.
>>575541240>repeated rewards only for breaking 400>dogshit anyway
>>575541352Long nosed amerimutt hands wrote this post
>>575541330>>575541325To make things clear, the first time bonus resets every time banners expire.Free 40 rolls for every 200 is pretty huge, though obviously they could change the overall economy of the game as an adjustment
>>575541382It's just a badly translation of eleph
Why should the company produce free content for you? Of course they're going to monetize it.
>>575541240nothing could ever make up a loss in spark, fuck these guys
>game gives you limited-time pull tickets that will reset your pity>this is supposed to be a good thing
>even the "echo chamber" is dooming
>>575541240Not only was the new gacha system already significantly more generous, but they're also gonna throw a bunch of free 10 tickets and ligma at me for free for no reason. I don't get it, do they want my money or not?
>>575541492New system is a ridiculous improvement, the base odds were already better and this just makes it better, I don't know how can there be still people complaining here
>>575540850>>575540983>>575540980Told ya they are doubling downGood riddance
>>575541429>>575541470 (me)Forgot image.>recruitment events held during the same period.
>>575541537Ligma, not eleph>>575541579Wakamo
>>575541492Now, you will feel like even worse shit when you fail to pull the rate up student.
>>575541579Doubling down on Wakamo
>>575541480Are the tickets time limited ?
>>575540850>all the shill repliesI hate golems so much it's unreal.
all we cool?
>>575541480They want you to spend 100 or 300But the income barely reaches 100Plus it's two banners per rotation Just like HSRYou are being jewed out in the long term (+1 year) as the first cracks begin to show in the system once all the first time freebies are gone
Why they don't just revert at this point?
>>575541642Yes, they are said to be time limited. I expect them to only last until the end of the same gacha.
Come on you stupid fucks I want to see you delete your accounts
>>575541596I'm not buying that they're throwing 4 tenners at you every banner where you go over 100 and change
>>575541240yeah they're definitely 0% chance walking this shit back, oh well
>all the Japanese replies are pissed offhttps://x.com/Blue_ArchiveJP/status/2081968032797364716
>>575541642It doesn't matter if they are limited or not, this a big win either way
Well this fucking sucks. I don't think I will continue to buy any monthlies or pakejis moving forward if this change comes to global.
>>575541563What would be the echo chamber?
>>575541648They don't even play the game.
>>575541229I understand you're worried that since they're being this generous with the gacha then their income will decrease, but I feel like they'll be fine with the new packeji and merch sales.
>>575541196I’m not playing industry standard games for a reason you fucking gorilla nogger
Bonuses explanation:Every time a new banner is added and starts, these rewards refresh.You get them ONCE per banner.>70th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>130th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>150th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>170th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>270th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>330th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>350th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1>370th recruitment: Limited time 10th recruitment ticket ×1If you do 200 pulls in a banner, you get back 40 pulls.If you do 400 pulls in a banner, you get back 80 pulls.
>>575541659Because they knew the new gacha change will make people to roll more. It's already a win for them
>>575541731Next maintenance, wanna bet?
>>575541659EA dev want big money. Giving short term 1 time shit to the cattle will pay off in the long term for him exclusively.
>>575541492>i was expecting 10 per 200.Same. As were they, probably. I think 40 free rolls for every pity is a reaction to this gigadrama.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y983TDjoglQ
>>575541707That's it, I'm posting an elephat. They'll be very sorry
>>575541762>it literally baits you into resetting your pity
>>575541796That was always the intended goal
>>575541707But Seia told me the japanese were happy?
>>575541686I mean, it's what they're saying.
>>575541746The other place
>>575541594What causes a grown man to make a post like this?
>>575541594you are back!?
Just accept the gacha changes, they won't revert back.
Do not log in, uninstall it even for the time being.I see a lot of people saying they will keep logging in and stay F2P (or just stop whaling), but I would argue that doing so is just sending Nexon mixed signals.Spending your time is as critical as opening your wallet.Gacha games evaluate player base engagement metrics such as daily and monthly active players, playtime, retention and frequency. If thousands of players are angry enough to leave negative reviews or complain on social media, but they still log in every single day exactly as they did before, the internal engagement metrics will still look completely healthy. "The player base is angry but people are still logging in regardless, let's continue with the change".F2P players are absolutely not "irrelevant" just because they aren't swiping their cards. F2P people make up the vast majority of the player base. They will continue to prey on you, do whatever it takes to incentivise until one day you finally decide to open your wallet.Continuing to log in every day as usual, while hoping Nexon will notice the community's dissatisfaction, is a contradictory strategy. If the goal is to communicate that this monetisation change has fundamentally damaged player trust, then both spending and engagement matter.If we want to effectively bend their knees, then fellow Senseis, step away from the game. Take a deserved vacation, but still enjoy the community discussion and fanworks as you please.
>>575541240>All fucking dogshitGooks should start piling up bodies to make them listen then.
>>575541867no. fuck you.
Shill is working overtime ITT
>>575541707Like 90% of the jap comments are optimistic here. Only the chinks and turdies are chimping out without even understanding why.
>>575541762>PLZ PLZ PLZ SPEND 400 PULLS EVERY BANNERGod, they aren't even trying to hide how jewish they are now. This is on par with with EA did to that Star Wars game.
Give me a second to ask Claude if these changes improve anything.
There is no happy ending
don't worry bros, if BA doesn't revert the gacha changes you're always welcome in /sora/
>>575541707This tl is kinda weird
>>575541916>lying about something anyone can open the link and see themselves
>>575541819It is meant to be to used to help you collect the current student you want if you get unluckly, not for you to save it. If you are satisfied with your pulls then you just let them expire or maybe use 1-2 of them to start on the next patch with already 20 pity built up. There is nothing to complain here.
It's a polite way to say take it or leave it asshole. Bravo John NexonFuck Kim Yong Ha btwHope he dies horrible death
>>575541796yeah they were probably testing the reaction to see how much they are willing to give. The reaction was so poor that they had to up the free pulls to 40, it was probably 10 or 20 in the original design if everyone was chill.
>>575541886sorry I don't care about the gacha I'm here for the story and cute girls
Compared to other gacha drama this is a nothingburger.
>>575541762>We want the Arknots Endfield audience
>>575541916Dios mio.......
>>575541960Go ahead and screenshot the """japanese""" replies you have in mind.
>>575541830seia is literally singing Simple Plana right now >>575541806
>>575541731The average rates for the new system already gave you 12-18+ more pulls on average when trying to get 2 studends, with this extra system also giving 40+ tickets for free in case you get unlucky there is literally no way you can complain anymore, please move on already.
>>575541819>>575541976its also mostly there to give you some frags that you are missing from the old system.
>>575541707The replies and quotes don't look good
This is what will happen if anti-Nexon got their way.
>>575541852mentall illness, remember we have a lot trannies and troons here larping
>>57554199150/50 is still hot garbage, but I am willing to accept it for so many rolls.But it is still a really bad business strategy to "wait for the reaction". Literally anyone could have told them it would blow up, and damage the relations with the players. At least put the slide with "20 free rolls for every 200", which you can then adjust. They didn't give ANY details on this
>>575541762This is how they're getting people to roll when they get the students a few pulls too early I guess. So much nicer progression than only 200 being the cutoff.
>>575541659Because game is becoming Blue Archive 1.5, hence the story part 2 shit, so they want to use that as an excuse to "modernize" the game and keep it hip, fresh and up to date with the industry standard.
>>575542030How much money do you think BA even makes from all of Latin America combined? Like 50 dollars a month?Dios mio, no el spico boycott...
>I am willing to accept the 50/50How this general has fallen
All the 3rd worlder are chimping out in the post reply, but the +40 rolls from usual 200 rolls might make the new system decidedly better. Outside the slight psychological burden on the number of rolls to prepare per banner.
>>575541845I guess, but they’re eroding the profitability argument for doing so a bit while not walking back the overall design
>>575542083it's not about the average nor the math, it's about the psychological feeling that you're getting ripped off. no amount of probability tables can cut through that negative feeling.nexon simply fucked up trying to change horses this late, there's no other explanation.
>Electronic Arts-DICE ended up killing Blue ArchiveNobody would have believed this sentence in 2025
>>575542083You do you if you really think 12-18 pulls + 40 pulls equates to losing out 200 points which is already shown in the graphs since you hold the averages up so high.
>>575542184Nobody is saying this though
>>575542191>All the 3rd worlder are
>>575542184Everyone is saying this
>>575541240So if I'm only rolling for one student I have to spend at most 160 rolls worth rather than 200?
>>575542145>But it is still a really bad business strategy to "wait for the reaction".It's called 'Anchoring'.You throw out something absurd, people get mad, and then you get credit for 'walking back' to what you were already prepared to do.
So uhm we cool now? Can I laugh at hoot ds now?
replacing spark for pity is always bad they could double the "average" it doesn't matter
>>575542175They actually steal money from us by posting /bag/ posts on twitter. Literally negative value to BA.
>>575542234Who?
>>575542145if we count the free pulls, for a double limited banner, we went from 75% at 200 to like i think 95% at 300(50 of which is free). So its quite comparable at this point. Of course if you're new and you want like 3 or 4 of the limited pickups in a bluefes then you're fked with the new system. Old players should be fine with only chasing 2 per period.
>It just keeps getting worse
>>575542184Holy fuck I said this
>>575540820
WE FUCKING WON LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO
This entire thing is a psyop to get people to burn more rolls ergo eventually spend more
>>575542317He wants you to assassinate some guy who worked for EA. Just report it and move on
>>575542215I did say it. I think it's a shit system where I will never feel safe when rolling after getting the first pickup, but 40 rolls is kinda big.>>575542271You can do that when bartering on a market. Not for a live service which relies on player trust.
>>575542209I do not resent you. You are brown, and therefore are physiologically incapable of understanding basic mathematics.
>>575542184I said this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpuUpGqSPOA
They won't change it on global before fox right? Right???
Does the shill do it for free? What compels someone to defend the multi billion dollar company ran by kikes?
>>575542423He's ragebaiting
>>575542375Slop?
>>575542348HOLY FVARK WE WON
>pity gifts>he boughtThey will reduce the amounts from time to time
>>575542356probably, I'm just glad it lets smart people save
>>575542401I sure hope not. Please don't give globalbrowns more favorable gacha conditions on banners that JP didn't have them for.
>>575542145>but I am willing to accept ityou're the frog being boiled
>>575541934Claude, Flagship Model Fable 5.Cost of this reply $25:Question:>Claude, does the additions of the bonuses (MD archive) improve the odds and make the new pity system better for the players compared to the old spark system?Claude, Fable 5, answers:>No, this changes the calculus meaningfully, but the new pity system is still worse. >Let me break down what these bonuses actually do and don't fix.>What they genuinely improve:Free pull compensation. >Within the first 200 pulls, you get 4 free 10-pull tickets (at 70, 130, 150, 170) — that's 40 pulls worth ~4,800 pyroxenes you didn't have to pay for. >Effectively, your 24,000-pyroxene budget for 200 pulls is subsidized by roughly 20%. >That's a real, quantifiable discount that the old Spark System never had (Spark was always exactly 24,000 pyroxenes, no rebate).>Some Eligma/Keystone equivalent restored. >"Keystone Fragments ×30" and "Fragments of God's Name" milestones partially answer my earlier concern — the new system does give crafting-adjacent materials as you pull, similar in spirit to Spark's old 1:1 pointKeystone conversion. >It's not identical (these are fixed lump sums at milestones vs. a scaling conversion of unused points), but it's not nothing.>The repeating bonus track (every 20 pulls after 200) means going past hard pity for a second/third copy is no longer "pure grinding with no interim reward" — you get steady drip compensation the whole way, which the old system also didn't offer beyond the point conversion.What they don't fix:>They don't touch the actual odds curve. >These are flat milestone rewards, not probability modifiers. >The "get 2 units" table you showed is unaffected.>New is still worse than Old at the 150-250 pull range, better only past ~300. >Materials and tickets are a side benefit layered on top of the same probability distribution, not a fix to it.CONT.
>>575542145retard
>>575542318Some jap is saying:200 before: 75%240 (200 yours + 40 free) now: 77%
>>575542331Aww, Tsurugi is here for our movie.
>>575542423If they are benefitting me of course I'm going to defend them. You will like the new system more you'll see.
What the fuck do they even teach at EA to make them so anti-consumer. They get fucked every time they go full Merchant and never learn a single fucking thing. They destroy entire IPs and wonder why they aren't making money, they have bigger companies like Disney pissed with them for there failer, they have to hide in offices because people want the company DEAD. Yet despite it all...Rinse and repeat.
>40 free pulls per 200Surely it's because they are nice and kind and not because the new system is just that much worse
>>575542358>You can do that when bartering on a market. Not for a live service which relies on player trust.Why not? It works. The people whose trust is broken isn't the target, it's the twitter retards.
>>575542452As far as I can tell, no. I just found it on Twitter, posted by a random person so who knows.
>>575542331It literally just got better, even if it's not ideal
>>575542495If they lower the income from other places I will be the first to shit on them. I'm keeping a table of monthly income.
>>575542467Smart people will get fucked regardless, there's only so much you can do before you inevitably lose the 50/50 or your pity resets
>>575542521>240some of you guys are legitimately room temp IQask yourself what this means under a pity system
APOLOGIZE
Crazy to think after all the drama BA has been through this is gonna be what kills it in the end.
>>575542521yeah I remember someone did the math and we needed 35 free pulls to match the expected rate at 200 pulls. The new system should be better in all cases with regards to expected value.
Claude, tell me if the blue archive new system's gacha rates with the first time bonus and repeated bonuses are better than the old gacha system.
>>575540820Mika love
>>575542456let the idiots think it will be permanentif they changed something once, expect them to do it again
>revert and gain fandom trust again>make it more complicatedSomeone do the maths
>>575542423A measured response often involves respecting both sides of the argument by critically picking them apart in good faith. Sorry you're not capable of that and immediately jump to the conclusion that anyone who's saying this is an improvement from the initial announcement is a shill. The multi-billion dollar corporation isn't being defended, integrity and reason are.
>>575542519CONT.>The 100-pull 50/50 coinflip risk is untouched. >You can still "lose" that guaranteed 3 to an off-banner unit and get no compensation for that specific bad outcome beyond the same flat rewards everyone gets regardless of luck. >The variance-of-the-floor problem I flagged still stands.>Duo/trio banner flexibility is still gone. >No amount of milestone loot restores the ability to freely split 200 points across two simultaneous featured banners and choose either result at the end — that structural flexibility loss is untouched by bonus tickets.Updated verdict:>The bonuses narrow the gap — mainly because the free pull tickets functionally lower the real cost of reaching 200 pulls by ~20%, and the crafting materials soften the loss of guaranteed Keystone conversion. >If you value raw pyroxene efficiency, the new system now looks noticeably more competitive than it did without these bonuses.>But I'd still lean toward the old Spark System being better overall for players, because the two structural issues that matter most for how BA is actually played:>(a) the coinflip risk at 100 pulls, and (b) losing shared/flexible progress across duo banners — are unaffected by milestone loot. >The bonuses make the new system's cost better; they don't make its predictability or fairness better. >For a playerbase that overwhelmingly deals with duo/trio banners and wants specific characters (not just "a 5 eventually"), predictability and flexibility tend to matter more than a 20% pull discount.If I had to summarize: >The bonuses move the needle from "clearly worse" to "meaningfully compensated but still structurally riskier." >Not a win for the new system.
>>575542630Cool, still not accepting the 50/50!
>>575542306I love this chair
>>575542591I was already happy but he seriously delireved through, 60+ more tickets per 200 pulls every banner is crazy work
When people look at the post mortem of when an end of service happens, these past few days are where you can point toward when finding out what started the downfall.vanitas vanitatum
>shill still at it after 2 days
Okay, I'm already tired of my twitter feed being spammed with the big titty chick in a bikini
>>57554251925$ for a dogshit answer....
it's over
>>575542656Always a good reminder that Fable 5 might be able to produce Annals-level mathematical work when prompted properly, but that if it's being prompted by a brown monkey it can struggle with even a high-school level probability problem.
>>575542570If they're getting fucked they're not very smart
How many days until we can have good threads again?
They want to spread the roll count/spending curve and separate it in two halves, one for F2Pfag 100 rolls and other for ~300 rolls, I don't know what the jew is thinking but people will be basically having two different gameplay experiences from now on.
>>575542375Good girls sharing my cum
>>575542543>What the fuck do they even teach at EA to make them so anti-consumerthey have FIFA and madden keeping them afloat in perpetuity, they have a lot of cushioning for their failures when they get rewarded so handomely.
>>575542184Hoyo games are the gold standard of gacha
sensei saves the gsc president at the end but has to sacrifice himself
So it's like ~25 rolls better compared to the current system for the average banner right in exchange for no spark? ~10 for the system change and averaging somewhere between 70 and 130 most of the time?
>>575542552Every potential JP customer who saw the billboards, but decided to not play BA because of huge drama, and has moved on already.Every potential global customer who saw it has 13% rating on SteamYou lose out on those.
>>575542656How the fuck did this prompt cost you $25 when I vibecoded an entire full stack Blue Archive tracker for a little under $5
>>575542714>>575542720I asked Gemini Pro last night and it told me Claude was getting everything wrong, you're right
>>575542543They are literally soulless parasites who worship demons (I know it sounds schizo). They don't operate on logic. They worship the dollar and won't stop at nothing to squeeze out more of their customers even if it means nuking the fucking Earth.
>nearly every JP player is saying to boycott the gameDamn this fes is gonna go down in flames
GOOKS! NIPS!WHY AREN'T YOU SENDING TRUCKS
>>575542543they tried to charge money for in-game bullets once, keklike 1 dollar for a mag iircmt Everest tier noses kek
>>575542756Until they offer a proper reversion or about 3 months at which point people will suck it up, whichever comes first.
>>575542658Cool, You don't play the game!
Ok which Hoyoslop gacha is the least bad
>>575542804Why would Sensei save someone who constantly slaps him with blue envelopes?
>>575542756after this summer event at least, this shit's going to be around for quite some time.
>change the gacha system to increase revenue >everyone's mad>reveal rewards for pulling>the rewards are shit>everyone's still mad>change the gacha anyways>people leave and the ones that stay spend less>revenue drops below expectations >profit?
>>575542704
>>575542851>t.
Stop being greedy goyim. You're getting limited tickets now too!
>>575542847It is never getting reverted once the thing gets implemented, it is time to move on, you won.
>>575542835Fuck off rabbit no one loves you.
>>575542889The corporate mind is a strange one, isn't it?
They kind of did this in genshin impact at first...
>>575542865That's gotta be LADs. Their writing is top notch
>>575542865ZZZ has miyabi so ZZZ
>>575542865ZZZ for the first main arc is fantastic. HSR has constant waves of kino and pure trash, genshin is an exercise in pure misery.
>>575542617Jews?
>>575542834Finally an unironically bad bluefes.
>>575542632claude is under control by the elves
Would Yakumo support the new gacha changes?
>>575542945>at firstSo... did they revert it there?
>>575542656>Duo/trio banner flexibility is still gone.This is the worst part, they can jew you out if they begin making units that heavily depend on each other to perform well or content that requires two or more of the shilled units.
>>575540820>TFW Tea party convinced Nexon to sabotage Pandemonium fes
White people ruined everything.
VIVA LA REVOLUTION! SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION! LEAD THE SWEDE TO THE GULAG!!! RAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
>>575542865Just let me eos in peace, waltuh
>>575542617Imagine if you had suggested a week ago that they'd change the gacha to a 50/50 with pity. Not a single person had this on their radar.
>>575541240Guessing the tickets expire within a month or 2 just like GA ticketsAt least most of the tickets are given just before you reach increments of 200 so it feels less scummy
>>575542889And then they wonder why people start killing them and skinning them alive for furniture. There's only so much people are willing to tolerate before you flip their ape switch and turn into enraged gorillas.
>>575542834Pandemonium will forever be associated with negativity from here on out
>>575542963Truly a tale as old as time.
>>575543035I'm betting they expire within the banner
>>575542961>ZZZHas males.>HSRHas males.>genshinHas males.Are you gay?
>>575543064So nothing has changed
>>575542961>>575542958>>575542960感谢您的服务,款项将随后支付。
>>575542903>t.
>>575542865zzz for art direction and combat, hsr for a sidegame with hype moments, genshin is for exploration and 6 years of content to catchup on.
>>575542928This fucking retarded image mixed with the word goyim always makes me laugh
>>575542985Not even Yakumo is this greedyShe does care about her products and customers
>>575543015nice try geheniggersit's all your own fault.
>>575543085Yeah, since the points do too
i can't leave until there's somewhere to go.red archive when?
>>575542756Isn't Fate having their stream or something soon? So probably whenever that is so all the shitposters go there.
>>575542986No, they added a "Radiance Pity" that basically canceled you 3rd 50/50 loss every timeProjected to long term it changes your winrate probabilities from 50/50 to 55/45
If you're seriously looking for something new instead of Blue Archive, don't play gacha. Just watch old anime and play old VNs for the rest of your life.
>>575542986Lol no they just live with that even the ceo cried
Irohaschizo status?
arona, we are flatlining and losing to maple story. how do we make line go up?
>>575543090Its also got good wives, so its a sacrifice worth considering.
We won.....
>>575542928Yes, daddy
>things start winding down>HEY GUYS WE'RE STILL GONNA CHANGE SHIT>everyone madder than before
its pretty nice that for the worse case scenario you only need to spend 320 instead of 400 to double spark.
>>575542583If you need a better explanation, they lowered the pity to 160. That's the easiest way to say it.
>>575543015Teapartyfes was already a sabotage considering how they continued to underperform
>>575542656yeshoyo coinflip system only works for hoyo because they only release 1 new character at a time and their banners last like a whole month before changing. it's not very suitable to faster banners, multiple characters release form.even then hoyo system is demonstrably failing since hoyo's games are all in various stages of dying now and they have very, very few organically popular characters (they have heavily shilled shit characters like Elysia and Kebin-kun who nobody actually likes) The old reliable Granblue spark system is objectively better. well the real best system is not having a gacha at all www
>>575543198Its astouding that they just doubled down after the reaction
I hate this gay world
>>575543208It's really an improvement
>>575543165>+40 rolls in 200 rolls>+80 rolls in 400 rollsThis looks like a good change. Anyone who doesn't like it is a troon, tranny, or a chud.
>>575543165He's never forgiven them for not giving the dress and he doesn't like the swimsuit either
It's your fault for being a jobless neet who never bought pakeji.
>>575543269Just say you hate the game.
>>575543245I respect it, it's satisfying to watch someone not cave to a mob of loud idiots
V jnag n guerrfbzr jvgu Vohxv naq Vebun oruvaq n ebpx.
>>575543165Won hard
>>575543241Hoyo has this magical gift of making strong starts and then generating some of the worst trash in the industry for the rest of their games' lifetime.
>>575543307c'thulu story is next, correct
Japanese players are actually worried about these conditions being so good that the game will end up losing revenue, lol.
>>575543208Double spark being so much less likely in the new system means I will crash out 6x as hard when I do it. Then the next day I will be happy my pyro stash isn't as small as it could be.
I can’t believe people defend ba spark system over an actual redemption system like nikke
>>575543374>me when I make things up
>>575541240I am...okay with this, I think.I still really loathe 50/50 as a system, but getting 40 back within 200 is decent (isn't it?)
>>575543269On top of 18 more pulls on average under the new system as a baseline anytime you try to get 2 characters
>>575543307I say this and I look like Ryan Gosling irl
>>575543301The math looks even better with the new addition rolls. So it's a (you) problem.
>>575543304>I respect it, it's satisfying to watch someone not cave to a mob of loud idiotsHere are some historical examples of when that happened:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_Louis_XVI
>>575543409holy cattle
>it's satisfying to watch someone not cave to a mob of loud idiots
I'm back from one week hiatus, what did I miss fellas?
>>575543458don't understand this reply
>>575543269based, we won
>>575543458Do you have any hobbies?
>all the retards thinking this is fine don't realize the EA Devs next move will be to fuck with how many rolls we get from raids and events
>>575542865Your first choice is whether you want open world action, 4 niggas in a row autobattler, or arena battler.If you're not strictly bothered by the genres, I can only talk about HSR and ZZZ.I tried HSR for a few months and dropped it when I still didn't understand what any of my shit were doing and had no desire to understand them. Very generous to new players. The writing is long-winded garbage. Whale and dolphin milking simulator. Large community. ZZZ is more casual and approachable with the writing. The VA is more fun. The management team isn't as greedy as HSR's and not as bothered it seems with the business side of things. It's the "friendlier" game, so that would be the least bad.
>>575543425>with the new addition rolls
>>575543409>>575543425This is a first time bonus. Meaning you're only getting that back once, from then on you're getting raped.
>>575543374Sounds it it would barely affect western players then, since we are notoriously unwilling to spend money in the first place.
>>575543471But you were here yesterday
I like sad Miyako
>>575543471You'll get 58-98 free tickets every patch cycle after the new gacha is implemented
>>575543489some mexican is angry at anyone that feels any kind of positivity
>>575543307>google this>click AI mode>it doesn't even acknowledge the rot13 it just immediately replies to it accurately this seems exploitable
>>575543535It resets with every new banner.
>/bag/ is the only place where there's so many people defending the new system>more offtopic images than ever>"hey fellow baggots which should I play" is followed by a bunch of retards shilling something noone here would play
The rebate tickets are decent but the fact that they have to be included in the first place is an indication of how much even they know giving up the 200 selection is a shit trade off. Literally a bargain change over a flat upgrade.
>>575543535You will never be Japanese.
>>575543508>Now you get a x5 recruitment ticket as a reward in both>Pyro rewards removedThank you for playing Blue Archive!
>>575543535First time within a banner, right?
>>575543064And Gehenna as a wholeBecause they're announcing Gehenna story right after announcing the Gacha change
>>575543536I did but now I'm thinking about not renewing the monthlies and not getting BP next time.
>>575543608Stop noticing
>>575543508Like Archive banner right? Retard
>>575543508Always assume the worst so you're never disappointed
at least she was not there
>>575543608>/bag/ is the only place where there's so many people defending the new system90% of the Japanese replies and quotes to the most recent tweet are positive.
>>575543608/bag/ despite all its idiots is smarter than average and can see the clear advatanges and benefits they'll be getting, Idk what point you're trying to make
>>575543440lmao shut his ass up good
>>575543608
>>575543710When I check the negative comments, it's all chinks. Pretty funny.
>>575543608I lived to see the day where a gookako post would in fact be the voice of reason
a nerf is a nerf no matter how much you try to compensate for it
these corpo bots sure are on overdrive these days
>>575543710Looks far more negative to me
>>575543710>>575543737Honestly global should be left in the cold entirely, don't give them any of the new freebies.
>>575541240DEV ListenedBLUE WON
I can't believe it's actually happening.It's been a fun time guys
>>5755433742chan is mostly>I still can't accept the count resetting on pickup>just announce that on the damn stream>I guess I can barely accept it nowNote that the threads are under gestapo rule. The board works in a way that the person who bakes has full janny powers to delete posts and he can even choose to bake the thread with ids, which I saw there for the first time in many months
>>575543829That's because you wouldn't be able to distinguish Japanese from Chinese and Korean even if I put a gun to your head.
They really should have lead with the rewards.
THIS IS A /BAG/ CIVIL WAR!which side are you on?
>>575543608I just don't care how other people feel about it. You can all hate it and I'll still be happy taking advantage of it and saving on pulls. I don't like consensus based thinking.
>>575543924that gookako that gave a good take, not you. You are one of those weird ones i'd bet
>>575543924Red team
>gigadrama>nobody wonwas this necessary?
>>575543924The one that's giving me 100+ tickets for pulling 400 times.
>>575543904Oh damn.
I like the changes but I still want a dev letter like what happened with track Hasumi
>>575543924Against Nexon and the shill jeets.
>>575543710Yea because most of them have the decency (whether you agree or not) to not shit in every post they make that's not related to the gacha change.
>>575543968You realize everyone but you hating it is not a sustainable business model, right?
>>575543924Team green lad myself, we light the way
>>575544039The most recent tweet is related to the gacha change, THO
>>575544042The internet is full of people complaining about things and doing nothing about it. This will be no different.
Anybody got Makoto swimsuit art?
>>575543924
>>575544042People are retarded. You ever get smart enough you'll soon realize it.
>Globalcucks chimping out>Nothing changesKek.
>>575543907cute 'moi
>>575541762>we're fucking getting cashback on pulls nowwas BA a chinese game this whole time???
>>575544112And the graveyard of video games is full of games where the devs didn't listen to player feedback.
>idiots don't understand math and doompost>idiots don't understand pity and doompostno wonder the ones hating it are all massive thirdwolrders here and over twitterthe japs understood it, you not, pacos
>>575543924Mihoyo
>>575543924Old system, pulling on a student banner I wanted and being able to spark the other adjacent banner because I got lucky is too good to give up
>>575544042The Japanese players are mostly in favor of the new system after looking at the pull rewards (and those who aren't are almost all the "change is scary" type of person). I don't care about what globalbrowns "think", and it would be a net positive if global BA EoS'd.
>>575543968Same. I just hope they still give me even more apologypyro though.
The chinks are not happy
>>575544196Cashback which you can only spend on this same banner.
>>575543924I'm on the side of the refugees. Stella Sora welcomes you all with open arms.
>>575544252>which you can only spend on this same banner.Please let this be true, kek
>>575544104Just checked and the Japs are still pretty unhappy
>>575541762So how long do these tickets last?
I hope AO isnt as shit as BA
Am I the only female player here?
>>575544292It is literally called "time-limited 10-roll"
>>575541240Obvious smokescreen is obvious
>>575544314All of them are Chinese if you bothered to look
>>575541240>Keystone FRAGMENTS only on the repeatIt's over
THE GOOD:Everyone is starting to blame the sweedish fucker instead of the BA teamTHE BAD:Everything he did is here to stay
>>575544326In the same banner
>>575544350So the same as the GA tickets?
>>575543440And France turned to absolute shit even more-so than it had already been until Napoleon crowned himself in 1804. What is your point?
>>575544350How does "time-limited" mean "this banner only"?
>still get way less keystonesIt's shit
>>575544314"Japs" aka chinks and seafaggots
/bag/ bros, honest question, I'm being serious hereI agree that the pity system is shit.I would prefer 100% to keep the spark system instead.However, usually I always end up sparking during Limited Banners and during FES, not because I want to, but because of the shit rates.During the Shupo gacha, I had to spend 400 pulls.During the Rio/Himari gacha, I had to spend 400 pulls.During the Kei and Aris gacha, I had to spend 400 pulls.I always assume I will end up double sparking.With that in mind, isn't the new system better for me specifically?Since I only would need to save 320 pulls instead of 400?Or I'm being retarded?
>>575544357yuplooks like a chink to meretard
>>575544420>>575544437Alright, it's not specified but that's the most logical thing. Wait 28 hours then.
https://bbs.animanch.com/board/7127557/idk you be the judge
>>575541240are we being treated like cattle?
>>575544467There are Chinese people in Japan so this means nothing
>>575544464you will lose all 50/50 and it will end up the samenothing really changes
The new gacha system isn't that bad, but why the hell didn't they show all the milestone rewards on the stream? It would've made the new system look a lot better from the start.
wow japanese fans are vocal about the new gacha and they are not happy
>>575544350>>575541762Now the evil nexon CEO inside me will implement this limited as a free 10 pull that "DOESNT" count towards pity. Like the free 10 pull you get from endfield, its a 10 pull doesn't count or consume pity.
BA WONtrannies lost again
>>575544464It's far far better, don't let yourself be gaslit by some of the retards still around here
>>575542865it's time to graduate to erogeit's like momos but the girls actually fuck you
>open twitter>"Who to follow" >the FBI???
>>575541240It would've been better for them to say this from the start, but good to see.
>>575544464I don't know, man. I don't plan for shit when I roll so I usually don't have enough for a spark anyways so I rely entirely on luck. In that sense the 50/50 won't change much for me because there's a good chance I don't even have enough rolls on me to get to it.
>>575544394Hahahaha there's no way this is real. Hahahahahahahaha you got me so good dude haha. Nah tell me the real deal
Don't fall for it /bag/, nexon is offering you free stuff in one hand to gain your trust and he's going to stab you when your back is turned with the knife he's hiding behind his back. Things will get worse.
>■Regarding the skills of "Ibuki (swimsuit)">Regarding the skills of "Ibuki (Swimsuit)" introduced in the "Summer Blue Academy Live! Hot! Hotter!! Hottest!!! SP" broadcast on July 26, 2026 (Sun) at 19:00 , there was an error in some of the description.>The correct information is as follows, so please check it.>Incorrect: Critical damage>Correct: Critical damage rate
>>575544546>Like the free 10 pull you get from endfield, its a 10 pull doesn't count or consume pity.As an Endfield player I can confirm.That is the most vile shit evet. Fuck these tickets.
>>575544464You'll be better with the new system. They create it specifically for lucklet like you. I still prefer old system though because eligma and my luck not too bad but also no too good.
>>575544663HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>575544594They said it from the start, third page talked about a recruitment ticket system that was getting implemented alongside it.
>>575544542>milestone rewardsthey didnt want tothese concessions are a reaction to the riots
Reminder:Nexon will completely ignore the SEAmonkey chimpout.The Japanese playerbase will end up accepting the change, either because they understand the math or because it will feel obviously better in their experience.Once the change rolls out to global it will have been universally acknowledged to be an improvement, and (You) will pretend to have always been in favor of it.
>>575544663Welp that'll be a skip.
>>575544674A competent man would always assume to be a lucklet when it comes to gambling.
Do you guys feel satisfied with the new gacha system now that you know about the milestone rewards?
>>575544663it's the same thing though? no?
>>575544663Everything keeps getting worse.......
>>575544771no
>>575544725>>575544701
>>575544771hell no. the whole thing sucks balls.
>>575544663>nerfed before implementation>shit gacha change>shit battle passDoA
>>575544771Nope
>>575544779Holy shit you're retarded.
>>575544663>Crit rates>When most of dps have a built-in crit attackLol.
>>575544745>>575544689>>575544792>>575544824>>575544663>>575544863That doesn't change what it does you retards. They fixed a typo. It was crit damage before and it's crit damage now. If you want an english equivalent, they changed "crit dmge" to "crit damage"
>320 pulls+free tickets guarantees both characters plus 2 spooksExcellent, I'm fine with this. Basically 19200 Pyro guarantees one, 38400 guarantees two.t. Had to double spark more than once
>>575544663so only Sagsuki is good enough to pull?
I might be retarded, but these changes actually seem like a good thing? What am I missing? Also, why do they give back rolls? Why not just lower the pity?
>>575544771i was indifferent when they announced it now i'm pleasantly surprised
>>575543924I just want to talk about the jiari-kei, bro, I don't fucking CARE anymore
>>575544740As usual. >Once the change rolls out to global it will have been universally acknowledged to be an improvement, and (You) will pretend to have always been in favor of it.This will be the worst part.
>>575544663I feel inclined to roll because it is fes rates, but I really don't care for Iroha and Ibuki at this point
>>575544740It's still objectively bad from an optics standpoint, they went about presenting these changes in the worst possible way they could've done.
>>575544241>>575544339>>575544940Good morning, saar
>>575544898>I might be retardedYes you are. Sorry you had to find out this way.
>>575544771The japs that were dooming are happy now so I guess it's better, they can read more than people here
>>575544663>MTLfags all over again
>>575544889Forgetting a whole word isn't the same as a typo
>>575544464it is a better system but some retards just don't know math
>>575545008>>575544515
>>575544806>>575544819>>575544853>>575545002You will like it :)
>>575544889retard
>>575544983yeah, they weren't sure with how many free pulls they were going to give so it was vague and also making the guests announce it instead of devs was a scummy move.Would've been better if they knew it was 40 free pulls during the livestream to avoid the meltdown, but I guess they were hoping to reduce the amount of free shit for nexon bux.
>>575544824better than the last battle passes
>>575544890this, and you also get 100 free pulls during FESbut doomposters gotta doompost
>>575545046>>575545085It seems that way in the MTL because you can't read japanese. You are a dumb monkey.BEFORE:会心ダメージFIXED:会心ダメージ率Guess what D.Aru and S.Nagisa have, 会心ダメージ率
>>575544663righti don't have imeji of her kit from livestreamanyone?
>>575544996Kill yourself
>>575545107>title is a cropped version of an old background
>>575544983>the optics is now "bitching worked and chinamen are the ones who saved us"
>>575545107>lazy reused background from 5 years agoHow is this one better than the others?
>>575545127Ritsu?
>>575545085>>575545046do you even play the fucking game
None of those are Chinese u fucking niggerT. Chink
>40K likesholy shit lolhttps://x.com/jipa42760710/status/2079506671332692451
I'm not a math fag, but wouldn't be better for optics and marketing if Nexon did this:>Keep the pity system>Reduce the pity from 200 to 150>Keep the 50/50 at pull 100>Keep the pulling rewards, add eligma to the rewards, remove the time limited tickets from the rewardsThis way in the worst case you only need 300 pulls to get 2 Students and you get 2 spooks anyway
>>575545127>>575545223I just said forgetting a whole word isn't the same as a typo you retard schizo bitch
Everyone complaining about the new gacha is Chinese
>>575545174
They could have easily mathfagged and showed the graphs on their own, and could have been more clear about the milestones from the beginning. Maybe they wanted to purposely vaguepost to drum up the schizos as a "no such thing as bad publicity" move? If we had gotten this info either during or immediately after the stream, there probably wouldn't have been this 48 hour long crash out.
>>575545283They are famous for that kind of behavior
Calculating the probabilities of the gacha changes is irrelevant. The fact is that no change was needed. It doesn't matter if it can be better in some situations. No fix was needed. We were fine with how things were. We were happy. Then suddenly after 5 1/2 YEARS it changes. Why? Don't fix what isn't broken you dumb bitch.
40 was the breakpoint it seems with the new model. I'm guessing it still sucks for whales who goes over 400 pulls but they could now buy the shiny new pakeji for eligmas so win-win.
>>575545267It is forgetting to put one character, 率. That is a typo. It did not mean crit chance before and it does not mean crit chance now.
Everyone praising the new gacha is a spineless nip with a small dick
>>575545184>>575545194>why isnt it the pirate ship>how is that better than the other onesI want you to try to guess what exposed you here.
>>575545193China rules this century.
>>575545261
Seia's 13cm tunnel filled by me.
guys how do i cancel all this ba merch from goodsmile? it's all past the permitted cancelation datei'll probably try to replace my payment card with an insufficient prepaid credit card or something idk about losing my account
>>575541382It is a fragment of mystical letters. Which was translated as Eligma. It's used to unlock the mystic. No one knows exactly what happens, but the students become stronger.
what if nothing happens?
>>575545326To be fair they did mention the tenners but not exactly how many. Good chance that they actually increased it because of the backlash.
>>575545453Just stream a bonfire for /bag/ when they arrive
>>575544467>Shitter who can only do EX difficulty (and f11 in Genshin)Bruh, none of the gacha changes matter to him
>>575545453Charge back simple as.
>>575545467global day 1 ahh post
>monthlies now give expert tickets>tsukuyo added to jfd shopCool.
>>575545261futa is for gays anon
>>575543710>>575543737hey which chinkslop should I play?
GookAko and her pathetic 1cm tunnel couldn't satisfy me...
>>575545453They register your payment method when you check out so it's too late for that. Just do a chargeback, and donate all the merch to starving Africans in the UK
None of this still changes losing the coinflip. People don't think rationally, they think with their feelings, and this new system will make people feel way worse than the old system.
>>575545508>To be fair they did mention the tenners but not exactly how manyEverywhere I looked guessed 10 roll ticket after you do 200 rolls. Which is a huge difference to the real solution they now gave.
>>575545532Source? Maybe the changes aren't so bad after all...
I am a mathfag but I don't need to waste time doing the math to know that:>if a gacha game company makes changes to the gacha in a 5 year old gacha game>then those changes are designed to get them more money per player, and not to draw new players in by being generousNot gonna read your Ph.D. dissertation on why your (actually Claude's) monte carlo estimate totally proves that the new system is better when I can just think about it that way.
>>575545590Kill yourself
I'm a size king. Gookako would never satisfy me.
Hag eventHag game
>>575545453JUST
>>575545602Patch notes.
>>575545326I mean what should've they done?>Hey retards, do your math properly you fucking idiots it's better or the same even without factoring in the point system.I don't think it would go well...
>>575545610>Instead of thinking about things with a level head I'll chimp out like those niggers I claim to hate, that'll show the multi-billion dollar company!Nexon doesn't need fabrications and misinterpretations to be criticized.
>>575545626B-but I thought being a size king/queen is Kokona's job?
>>575545595Doesn't matter what you "guessed". They mentioned the milestone system and everyone chose to ignore it.
>>575541015I have an older sister fetish in anime and stuff.I also have an older sister. I can't stand even listening to her fucking voice lmao
>pity, meaning impulse-pullers can benefit>rewards for pulling without a budget>new system makes it harder for players to build students using ligma/dupes>new powercreep system will filter even more players, specially newbabs>meta may see a dip in competitivenesscasual players won again
>>575545624I've been playing BA for far longer than you were even aware it was a thing to begin with. Show some goddamn respect.
So the new system is basically better than the old one... Why didn't they explain it in more detail during the livestream?https://x.com/GenericIbuki777/status/2081979826303619096/photo/1
>>575545453>>575545519dont burn the miyako figs
>>575545595Which is why I think they did change it. Otherwise they would've bragged about that in the slides>GET UP TO 4x 10-LIMITED RECRUITMENT IN 200 ROLLS
>>575545301cooli might missing something but from my MTL the difference is on her EX Skill 2previous was increase Crit Damagecurrent is increase Crit Damage Res>>575545174
>>575545590As opposed to no coin flip at all?I pull a lot for single characters (just pulled Rena and skipped Konoka), overall I'll have a lot more Pyro to spend in the double banners I need, and those are now cheaper at only 38400 to guarantee.
'ello 'elloany updates about the situation?
>>575545658>>575545532>熟達証書の週間獲得可能最大値アップThat means monthlies are increasing the cap for weekly permits bro... Nothing relevant for those who don't refresh AP with gems like crazy
>>575545590>>575545610Based, don't let shill discourage you guys. I'm just sad, this happened
BOYCOTT IS OVER, BUY PAKEJI
>>575545610But Claude says that the new system is WORSE
>>575544663>Ibuki's clit was nerfedbros...
Kokona and her unaroused 18cm tunnel.
>>575545453>Over $1300 USD in merchThey really screwed you over, didn't they?
>>575545729>They mentioned the milestone system and everyone chose to ignore itMaking an educated guess is the opposite of ignoring it. And I said japs had the same one.
>>575545765Would be really funny if those 80 free pulls don't count toward the pity.
How much are we spending to celebrate?
>>575545610>mathfagWhat type so I can judge you. Better not be come compsci nigger.
>>575545801Ah, my bad then.
you retards are missing the pointthe new rolling system is fine now, whatever(unless it turns out free tickets are somehow one time only after all despite the wording or limited in some other way like only received them after banner ends or something stupid) BUT the system itself is not the fucking problem anymore it's the way the went about implementing in and not even having the fucking courtesy to get some devs on an emergency stream and apologize for "being unclear when announcing it" or whatever. that means they're changing the development approach from the eastern>listen to the players complaints even if they're being dumb and try to placate them to save faceto western>FUCK YOU WE'RE THE DEVS WE KNOW BEST QUIT IF YOU DON'T LIKE ITlong term, it's fucking over the second they do anything actually bad(and you know they will) you're all boiled frogs
doesn't this system make it way easier to change the gacha bonuses that are the only saving grace of the new systemthey can just randomly patch note changes for something that small instead of needing to announce it like this
>>575545765They were going with 10 free rolls after 200 before chinks threatened to punch Kim 100 times with a 50/50 to reset the count.
>>575545765It's only work if you're not a fucking LUCKLET.
don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened
>>575545347Because it would be two different buff types (flat modifier vs multiplier) so the typo actually does make a difference since it would be able to stack instead of override
>>575545765If they actually explained it, I truly believe the backlash wouldn't be this terrible. Kim fucked up by quoting some random dude instead of them making their case, it just tells us the change was on a whim or that people would take it lying down. You can't just put in a wall of text for 2 minutes in an 8 hour stream and move on, that's the most significant change you can make
WAIT WAIT WAITGENSHIN AND ZZZ UNITS ARE ALREADY SUPER STRONG IF YOU PULL THEM ONCE, JUSTIFYING THE 50/50 SYSTEM, THEY’RE ALREADY MAXED OUT FROM THE GET GOARE BA UNITS ALREADY SUPER STRONG WHEN YOU PULL THEM ONCE? OR THEYRE WEAK AS FUCK AND YOU NEED TO MAX THEM OUT WITH DUPES TO BE OF ANY USE
>>575545782>current is increase Crit Damage ResIt's not I swear don't fucking post anything if you're an MTLtard. It was crit damage and it's still crit damage.
>>575545453Your issue is that you're spending for figis less than 1/6 in size, you have to skip all the 1/7 figs unless she is really a student you would fuck.
>>575545787As opposed to pic related which objectively feels better from a psychological standpoint, yes. You still won't be able to replicate this with the new system (not even mentioning how getting ligmas was much better under the old system)
math is devil trickery invented by s*tan himself to make you abandon your feelings and love for God
>>575545585you can still call your bank and request a payment stop to the merchant
>>575545453AmiAmi was pretty accommodating when I cancelled mines.Got a couple last-orders I'm leaving open, but debating whether or not I really want to go through with them.
>japanese players keep attacking Stella Sora and blaming Yostar for thisYostar must be really upset right now
>IMG_>tourist post
>>575545948you dont need dupes like you do in genshin or so on, also no males
>>575545948A BA unit has all aspects of their kit once you pull them once unlike Genshin or ZZZ units. The benefit of getting extras is stats.
>>575545782>誤:会心ダメージ>正:会心ダメージ率
>>575545943>Because it would be two different buff types (flat modifier vs multiplier) so the typo actually does make a difference since it would be able to stack instead of overrideNo kit analysis I watched assumed it would be a different buff. Zero. The gameplay section was there too.
Arisu's 10cm tunnel is too hard and cold...
>>575545763Sorry. But I'm just tired of this "muh feelings" when all the math showed the new gacha was better, and now with the milestone thing that will be 10 times more the case. At this point you're just being obtuse if you keep behaving like that.
>>575546010They are the ones who need the BA money, the change is partly on them too lmao
>patrick soderlund is the new executive chairmanHoly fuck it's so over. How did they even let him on board? Even if the gacha system stays the same he's going to fucking ESG all over BA.
>>575544898>why do they give back rolls?because they were bullied into it by the playerbase chimping out and were not originally planning to do so
>>575545693Just do what the fucking stat autistics have been doing on their own immediately. The detail graph explanations of why they think it's good/better than what we have and show the actual milestones right after. Doing that, instead of everyone assuming the worst for 2 days would have been infinity better received for transparency. In our timeline, they vague retweeted some random guy, removed the retweet, we did the math ourselves, mixed reactions, then a day later they finally explained the milestones after being shady since the stream dropped.
>>575545975That happened to me the same number of times I had to double spark. I'd have a lot more pyros today if the new system had been implemented a year ago which would have let me pull even more.
>>575545981said like an old proper church
>the math shows that the averages are better on average over 10000 years!okay but what about the eleph?>uumm... uhhhh... S-SHUT UP STUPID CHUD!that's what I thought.
>>575545896>(unless it turns out free tickets are somehow one time only after all despite the wording or limited in some other way like only received them after banner ends or something stupid)oh yeah>>575545873that's probably what's gonna happen, it won't count towards the pity, or at least it won't count towards the extra rewards
>>575545795Update: you're still gay
Damn the Ibuki nerf is crazy
>>575546074Except if you roll the PU on the 150th roll and you. You get a consolation price of 60 rolls from that point, but you still need to go to 350 instead of 200.
>>575545948correct, in BA your dps need to be U40 AT LEAST before they're useful supports are whatever
>>575546080Bro hasn't finished Vol EX yet
>>575546071yeah because they probably assumed it was a typo because the flat crit modifier would have been a first. If it wasn't corrected and if it was intended, on paper, it would have stacked
>>575545590>>575545610Honestly this. Fuck Nexon, fuck Yostar, and fuck that sweden cunt.
>>575541240isn't this still atrocious? like you are being handed a bunch of rolls but it's just 1 time ever to pacify people
>>575545948c3 r1 raiden
I don't know about nerf, but Ibuki seems fuck able to me now that she have a shoulder reveal.
>>575544898its even worst than hoyo's refund funny enough.
>>575545530>>575545585>>575545992>>575546007i'll talk with my bank first i guess then charge back if neccessary. thanks.
>>575546196It's every patch cycle, 40-80 free tickets
>>575546178It was already shown correctly in the gameplay section. I didn't even notice the typo because normally you just read the start of the word and brain fills in the rest.
>>575546196No, the boycott is over. Move on.
>>575544898Unironically, it's better to roll 40 more times than to get pity at 160. You get 40 more rolls worth of ligma and possible 3*
Please do NOT let the writer for v6 write Gehenna's volume.
>>575544771Yes
>>575545981mari would say this
>>575546010That's probably the funniest shit about this mess. Jps really don't like that game
But what if old system with ticket rebate??
>Tsukuyo in the shopGoddammit why always the students whom I've already ligmad.>S.Wakamo>Miyu>Tsukuyo
I'm still boycotting.
>>575546253Yeah, but the point is, it would have been an insane buff if it wasn't a typo, hence some disappointment
>>575545975Old system save me lots of pyros, I usually get pickup around 150 to 200. Man this is really a sad day and as I'm typing it starts raining
I'm not rolling until these changes come to global. Fuck the beta server. We should get free shit with rolls too.
>>575546074>But I'm just tired of this "muh feelings" when all the math showed the new gacha was betterIt's not about the math. Again, realize the vast majority do not think rationally about gambling systems with obscured layers, it's all about how it makes them FEEL.This is not prescriptive, this is descriptive, and you have to balance your needs with these customers to not miscommunicate . Miscommunication kills. The math could show it's a better system, but if the actual rolling experience feels like it's ripping you off harder, then no amount of math will wash away that disappointment.
>>575546302That's a reset
>>575546301>Some of the most thematically complex writing in the seriesYeah I guess Geheniggers wouldn't know how to appreciate even an iota of nuance and depth so it wouldn't be a good fit
>>575544771fuck no
>>575546338No.
You people do the boycotting. I will do the girlcotting cause I'm not gay.
>>575546253Why are you trying to downplay the fact that Ibuki got nerfed?
>Thunder Emperor isn't Ibuki>Kasumi isn't relevant to the thunder emperor plot.How much would you rage?
I am curious if will get the gacha changes early for global.
>majority of bag already forgib nexonngmi
>>575545896The worst part is that the japs (the public that actually matters) are the least reactive, so even if Nexon fucks up big time in the future they won't face any consequences from that side. And after the whole elephant thing they know they can just ignore western chimpouts.
>>575546424She didn't, globaltard.
>>575546338Woah woah. Slow down there bucko. That would be TOO good and we can't have that.
>>575546445/bag/ has a lot of people who can read thankfully
>>575545524He's a dinosaur(34) with bad reflexesGive him some slack
>>575546404>Some of the most thematically complex writing in the seriesThematically complex my ass.
>>575546445The fact they already slaughtered the troons that thought BA would die is enough
Some of the most thematically complex writing in the series
goy pass is not just the reused background but also a frame around your profile pic to show off your money on the leaderboard, even if you use a different background
>>575546506>Thematically complex my ass....hey
>>575541537Its not even a bad translation, eleph is the worse translation.
Who is angy who is happy happy happy
So in the rare chance I get lucky and roll both PUs at around 120 rolls, I should pump the charge to 170 total for the carry over rolls since there's 50% cashback from 130 to 170?
It's supposed to be a gacha, the old one was too boring and safe, new one removes some emotional certainty but the experience of going through it will be much more exciting
>>575546404V6 is just students wanting to fuck sensei , horn blowing that proves to be useless, and voices doing vague posting.
>>575546448Even a worm will turn. Japs showed discontent during this so a larger fuckup will just fan the flame higher when they're now already questioning management and how long it took them to even clear things up.
>>575546448elephant shit didn't impact income so if we- nah who am I kidding global makes peanuts compared to the other servers probably
>>575546557this one is the icing on the cake, the Mika one was way better. Trinity is forever the superior school
>>575546616shut the fuck up
>the second gacha system has hit schale>we're going to war with Abydos>the elves are dancing
i... forgib you, john nexon
This shit is too complicated, can't we just go back to the spark system?That was way easier to understand, none of this 50/50 ticket rebate PU resetting crap
>>575546572>Who is angySEA and China>Who is happyJapanese players, Americans, eastern Europeans
>>575546226Good luck bro, hope you get your money back
>>575542348>pity becomes persistentIs that even true?? Also who the fuck is pulling on a banner and not getting the featured character
>>575546607If it counts you can build pity that way for next banners
/bag/ historian here.Anons, would you consider this gacha change THE HAPPENING that will start of the decline for Blue Archive?
huh? the problem already ressolved this easily? what a nothingburger
>>575546607those cashback rolls can only be used on the same banner most likely, which means you're tanking your income for ligmawhich is probably the reason why the gacha change happened in the first place, to motivate wallet draining like that
>>575546660Literally to encourage more gambling.
>>575546693Iroha got the best swimsuit in the game though?
>>575544771Yeah. It's clear to be we will have more pyros to spend overall which means I'll pull for permanents now often. The presentation sucked though.
>>575546709If you think EA is going to stop with changes then you are very naive
>>575546660that's the point they want you to miscalculate and pay more consistently
uhh so i need to do 470 rolls to get keystones now?
>>575546709What do you mean? Changing the gacha like this will bring in new players since the system is familiar to non-BA players.
>>575546557which is honestly what they SHOULD be adding, finding small ways to monetize the game with cosmetics instead of fucking with the gacha is the way to gothey're 100% working on skins too, $60 paid skin gacha is too tempting to pass up
>>575546594Fuck you
>>575546616las vegas loves this man
Whoops, I lost 50/50. Should I go for pity?
>>575546809You know there's another way
>>575546660tl;dr versionBUY MORE PAKEJI YOU CHUDS DON'T SPEND ENOUGH MONEY
Jesus christ look how small and flat she is.
>>575546814I'm quitting if they add skins.
What's the most thematically complex story in blue archive?
>>575546814You're not wrong
>>575546557I honestly wanted the frame for a long time. They should also have one for rankings and stuff.
>and then we release a 20 dollar eleph pack(only last 3 days on shop)... and noone will bat an eye!
>>575546607Very interesting thought. So you'd be spending 30 of your own rolls to get 60 rolls total for the next banner, or you might accidentally hit a pickup dupe for 550 ligma along the way.I think it is definitely worth it to go for all the extra tickets on fes gacha regardless of how early you pull them. On regular gacha, it would be affected by how much you would appreciate "losing" that gamble and getting elephs for the current pickups
>>575546848Let me consult my monte carlo simulation and get back to you after claude thinks about it for a few minutes
>>575546827
>>575545261Is this the most liked Yuuka pic ever?
Now that /bag/ had moved on from whining about the gacha, what should we talk about?
>>575543180It has wives for gay menI quit genshin around the time they shipped away all the popular waifu characters away with other menThis is what you want though because you're a wannabe cuck
>>575546620>>575546506>How do people live after they have been freed from an ideology that defined their entire lives?>The one person defining my identity is gone, what do I do now?>How do I transcend my victimhood and become a better person?>How do we reconcile the unseen boundaries between two completely different groups of peoples?>We were meant to do great things. Is an ordinary life enough for us now?>All the heavy Christian symbolism in the Oratorio, ideas of lament, remembrance, reconciliationI'm sorry you're too dumb to recognize any of that but it's not too late to improve
>>575546557Bitch I don't care about that shitty frame, add a way to show off my multiple affection 100 titles.
>Sensei using his strength instead of intelligence to help his students.GDD manga Sensei is fucking based.
>>575546814>skins/paid lobbyfine>skin gachaI will burn down John Nexon's home
>>575546724The rolls can be used on the same banner, but the pity those rolls build will count towards the next gacha.
How many anons will get fucked "building pity" going forward?
>>575546693Previous OP was Hifumi, then before that is Seia.Pandemoflop flopped really hard
>lost 50/50/bag/ told me it's better
>>575546973>pic rel was highly implied to be the canon mc love interest
Ok so in the last banner I got B.Eimi 3 times and sparked B.YuzuBut in the new gacha this happens>I get lucky and get B.Eimi in the first 30>my points reset so I just stop and feel "lucky">I can't upgrade her for shit because its dumb to keep rolling since I'm not building a spark anymore>I don't roll for B.Yuzu because I might risk having to roll 200 timesexplain how rolling infinity times instead of building a spark is better
>>575546663>eastern EuropeansV-vaffambagno!
>>575546948Hina Rabittina
>>575547009Surely /bag/ is not that retarded.
>>575547009If the pity I'm building is with limited tickets that expire it'll be fine, worst case scenario you get a dupe.
>>575547009Hang on let me ask claude first
>>575547040It is actually, if you do the math
>>575546995Isn't cosmetic gacha illegal ? Even shit like Nikki have to add stat to it
>>575545261wtf
>>575546812i don't want said players here because they will complain about the game being problematic as soon as they get to the part where sensei licks iori's feet
>>575547040You would think gacha players would understand that if it's not 100% then it's not guaranteed and it will not be in your favor the majority of the time
>>575547009"Building pity" only works if there's a new 2* student in the mix otherwise it's just "I'm gonna throw a few rolls and see if I get the banner studen". When was the last time we get one? Renge?
>>575546901The one where Nexon saw hoyo games and said “we want our games to be like that”
>>575547040>lost 75/25/bag/ told me it was better
/bag/>Japan is happy with the pity system>Japan are herbivoresopen twitter JP BA link>Japan is upset as fuck>all the posts are negative>everyone is demanding Kim's head on a stakeSurely /bag/ is not lying to me, right?
Isn't the pity being effectively 160 now a good thingI'm pretty sure the new system has better odds for getting both characters at any point after 100 and before 400 compared to the old system now
>>575547254According to my /bag/ friends those are all secret chinks and /bag/ friends never lie
>>575547254All of those "Japanese" players are Chinese if you look at their profiles
https://x.com/BlueArchive_kg2/status/2081977354185031808They're erasing the "regular recruitment" as well
>>575547043>30 on b.Eimi>200 for bYuzu>40 pulls compensationInstead of spending 230 out of pocket, it will be 190. You'd still be fucked on your bEimi ligma though right? Unless you get spooked on bYuzu's banner.
>>575547254Please don't attach lust provoking images like that, I don't even know what you said
It would seemDECISIVEPANDEMONIUMVICTORY
>>575547254they don't matter
She used this joke more than twice in denkigai no honya-san...
>>575547254None of them are Japanese or spiritually Japanese.
>>575547043It is obviously a dogshit downgrade, but any little bit of hope is doing to capture the people clinging to it easily in these kinds of situations.
>>575547254>/bag/we're still being raided
https://bluearchive.jp/news/newsJump/680They fixed the bug where Koharu's skirt would sometimes randomly disappear.>■「市街地戦・ドラム缶ガ二」にて、特定の操作により、生徒「コハル」のスカートが消失してしまう不具合
>>575547043it's better because it's closer to genshin and genshin is always top on the revenoo charts, it averages out after a million pulls trust and this is still ignoring the eleph
>>575547370damn these nerfs are getting crazy
If you think about it with the previous system I could only get 201 Ibuki with 24000 pyro but now I can get 240 Ibuki with 24000 pyro
>>575547370Boooo
>>575547370WTF DEATH TO NEXONDEATH TO YOSTAR
>>575547327why is uzqueen such a loser
>>575547284>Isn't the pity being effectively 160 now a good thingit would be if there were any proof that it's the case. as another anon suggested they could make the free 10 pull tickets not count towards pity, which I suspect is what they'll do.in any case, it's obvious they didn't plan from the beginning to make pity 160 because if they had they would've said so from the start. this is a stopgap measure to address complaints but isn't what the company actually wanted to do.
>>575547284they don't like how they can't dupe spark to get UE40 like before, just that
>>575547370Koharu's nightmare, accidentally going to school without her skirt
>>575547370so koharu is wearing black panties
the more I think about it the more I'm convinced that the free roll tickets won't count towards either the pity, the reward count, or bothNikke also has free tickets for rolling sometimes and that's the way they do it since they said that "paid" methods don't count towards it(whatever that means) they'll probably put the free tickets in that category too otherwise this change is a little too generous but if that's the case they're going to get eaten alive once the update hits
>>575547254/bag/ is in the coping stage, ignore them
Just buy more PAKEJI and your problems will be no more...
Do you forgive Kim Josh-Uang?
>>575547370Fucking ruined. Now I'm going to call the gooks, it's time to send the trucks
>>575547254All the ones I follow that were mad about it before are happy now, so that seems to be an improvement.
>>575547043It is not, they will just throw you some free tenners to make you cope with it.Also eleph-wise fucking sucks
So instead of 200 rolls it now costs 160 rolls to spark? And /bag/ is telling me that's a bad thing?
>>575547470I will definitely buy some as a reward for the improvement.
>>575547445So I don't throw away my pitchforks just yet?
>>575547305>they're removing the permanent banner so you can't even waste the limited tickets without a chance to lose your pityI see
>>575546660b-but genshin uses it and they make a lot of money...
>>575547445yeah but this could just be a stopgap measure while they work out a real fix that they think the community will be satisfied with. i.e. announce this to stop people from dropping the game. and by the time they actually have to implement it, have figured out something else to announce that will make people not care that the tickets don't count towards pity and are therefore nearly worthless.
>>575547370actually outrageous
>>575547470I wasn't planning to, but what they just announced changed my mind. Those 40 rolls are very generous and relieved all my concerns about the new gacha.
https://x.com/BlueArchiveJP/status/1975248287843430621REVERT>REVERTFUCK MATHS
Looks like we won?
>>575547565>and by the time they actually have to implement itIt's coming out tomorrow.
>>575547350>any little bit of hope is doing to capture the people clinging to it easilypsychological attack on my eyes
>>575547539buy a ticket to seoul and look up gas stations near nexon offices and where to buy styrofoam
>>575547370Every single update just makes things worse
>>575547416>they could make the free 10 pull tickets not count towards pityI'm fairly certain they would have had to disclose that in this maint memo under japanese anti-consumer laws if that was the case since they define the pity counter based on raw pulls "募集を行う毎にカウントされます"
>>575545948>ZZZ UNITS ARE ALREADY SUPER STRONG IF YOU PULL THEM ONCENot really, most of them want their signature weapon minimum.If you want true comfy clears get ready to pull multiple copies.
>>575547608>yuuka having sex with senseinot canon, she only watches
>>575547623If I wasn't a mathfag I would be embarrassed right now...
>>575547663Well Nikke got away with it so...
>>575547416That's retarded. Of course they count.
>Free 10 pull tickets DO NOT count towards pityHow would Japan react?
>>575547416>>575547445Not having them count towards pity after everything would be the killing blow for them so I'll just hope they do count
>>575547305oy vey
So once the patch is up and people know if the tickets count towards pity etc, we'll know if this is good or bad.I was very against the new system before I woke up today, but I guess 40 less rolls per guarantee makes up for most of the downsides.I would still vastly prefer this with spark instead of pity though, because 50/50s feel like utter garbage and I'm still getting gimped for ligma.
>>575547663Well I certainly hope you're right>>575547728Did nikke not disclose it beforehand in the announcement of it? Because he isn't saying that it's illegal for the 10 pull tickets to not count towards pity. He's saying it's illegal to describe the pity system and not state that they don't.
>>575547728nikke has cuckshit and males thougheverbeit, different target audience
What will be the first pakeji you buy now that the drama is over?
>>575547416>>575547445New doomtard meta? Don't you people get tired?
50/50 but you get to select a student for the other 50 so either way you get a student you want.
>>575547728Nikke did say they wouldn't add gold tickets
one step forward two steps back with these jewsI want out of Mr Goldberg's wild ride
>>575547832It's been years and they seriously need a win. The evil lolichud army just keeps winning...
>>575547305>no more regular recruitmentwhat the fuck?
>>575547370Yep. EoS
>>575547895I must say, I only play BA but your schizo posts are always a pleasure to read.
>>575547787again, the new system frankly doesn't really matter much at allthey way they went around implementing it is what's really the problem >>575547747>>575547731I think they don't and that's why it's just another blogpost instead of a video announcing the changes
>>575547628>11hours agoi hate new gacha system too but, come on now
>2 days later and /bag/ is still attempting to figure out basic math
>>575547305That's different from the archived gacha, right?
>>575547061This Reisa is so fat.
>>575547978Yes
Just buy the ligma pakeji, it's a good deal
>>575547370It's Hanakover
>>575547302"they are not true nippongos reeee"
>>575547307>You'd still be fucked on your bEimi ligma though right?Exactly and then they sell me the "$20 ligma pakeji +tip"
>>575547896...did you ever roll on regular recruitment?
>>575547896Let's not pretend like this is a great loss.Did anyone ever use that banner?
>>575547305When's the last time you ever roll there anyway, I didn't even use it on my first day
archive recruitment and fes archive are scams. The only reason archive recruitment went over so well is because of the free tickets
>>575547956The system itself matters a lot to me, since I actually play the game and will be pulling with it.
>>575547978Yes. It was somewhat useful before they added elephs for dupes which was very early on.It's also useful for rerolling since the chance of a specific permanent student is higher.
>>575547305>>575547896It's not like you actually roll for this dead weight banner, right?...right??
coom in doomrope in hopegood morning /bag/
>>575547956There's skeptical and then there's retarded. They count. If not they'd have said that only Pyro pulls build pity, as there are many sources of limited 10x tickets and they'd have to group them all.
>>575548104Good morning
>>575548104This Is YourBestOne Yet
>>575548073no but I like looking at the video
>>575548065>The only reason archive recruitment went over so well is because of the free ticketsAnd it also slashed the general pool so you have a higher chance of getting non-dupe students. Because like 99% of students they added to archive recruitment were farmables you most likely already had or would acquire through non-gacha means to begin with.
>>575548104Cartel thoughts on the big news? Game saved or doomed?
>they're removing it? It's not like YOU use it, nothing suspicious here at all
>>575548065Not sure about fes archive, it's maybe neutral, but archive recruitment is a straight upgrade to what you can get.
>>575548170Play the game.
>>575548225>>575548225>>575548225
>>575548065At least fes archive now shares pity with other limited banners.
Bing
>>575548115If people had just thrown the idea out of nowhere I'd say it was retarded, but considering it seems to be the standard in games that use this type of system I'd say it constitutes a real possibility.
>>575548213you first
STILL not trusting Gehenners, for good measure
>>575548104Thank god you're here. Save us from this suffering and despair!
>>575548073if charges carry over your gonna have to choose to lose rolls on expiring assault tickets or use up the expiring tickets just for the system to force a 50/50 in a banner you don't care about and possibly reset your sparks.
>>575541240>they return to you motherfucking 20% of your rollsjeez, that was totally not the day 1 plan but I'll take it
>>575548164The new system was already slightly better at lower concurrently running banners (around 1 to 3 simultaneously running banners). The point shop system improves on it.
>>575549264>no pictureI don't think you're him, avatarfags wouldn't forget
>>575541240Mats and 2 whole gifts as long lasting bonuses for rolling? Limited time ticketThey are so fucking retarded, hopefully there is a bug and japs will get fucked over really hard by this system
