Previous Thread: >>575548225 >Guides, Resources and useful links:https://rentry.org/bagguides>/bag/Circles/Clubs/Friends:https://rentry.org/holdingthebag>4koma, Manga, Side Content, PVs & Shortshttps://rentry.org/bacontent>>(JP) – JST>Banners:>7/29 After Maint – 8/5 10:59Makoto (Swimsuit – Limited)Satsuki (Swimsuit – Limited)Chiaki (Swimsuit – Welfare)>News:5.5th Anniversary Livestream: https://www.youtube.com/live/tQ4z_gAngHc – 7/26 15:00Patch notes: https://bluearchive.jp/news/newsJump/673>Events:Balancing Schale's Books with the General Student Council – 7/22 11:00 – 7/29 10:59Set Sail! Pandemonium Society's Ship: Chairman Makoto's Splendid Summer Vacation – 7/29 After Maint – 8/12 10:59100-Free Recruitment Campaign – 7/29 After Maint – 8/5 10:59>Content:Total Assault: Hieronymus (Urban) – 8/5 11:00 – 8/12 3:59Limit Break Assault: The Fury of Set (Field – w/Light Armor) – 7/30 11:00 – 8/26 3:592x Normal – 7/22 4:00 – 7/29 3:593x Bounty/Scrimmage – 7/29 4:00 – 8/5 3:592x Account EXP – 8/1 4:00 – 8/3 3:593x Normal – 8/5 4:00 – 8/9 3:593x Commissions – 8/5 4:00 – 8/12 3:592x Account EXP – 8/8 4:00 – 8/10 3:593x Hard – 8/9 4:00 – 8/12 3:59>>(GLOBAL) – UTC>Banners:>7/21 After Maint – 8/4 1:59RenaKonokaHare (Camp)Kotama (Camp)Maki (Camp)Misaki>News:Patch notes: https://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board_view?thread=3501827>Events:Kivotos' Unsolved Mystery: In Search of Tsuchinoko, the Unknown Creature – 7/21 After Maint – 8/4 1:59Arona's Dice Game Event! – 6/23 After Maint – 8/18 1:59My Office: https://bluearchive.nexon.com/user/myoffice>Content:Total Assault: Goz (Field) – 7/28 2:00 – 8/3 18:59Limit Break Assault: Tiphareth (Indoor – w/Elastic Armor) – 7/22 2:00 – 8/17 18:592x Bounty – 7/20 19:00 – 7/27 18:592x Normal – 7/27 19:00 – 8/3 18:59
Using a 10-patch span with the milestone rebates factored in as baseline these will the full rewards under the new gacha system: >Lower Cost Per Patch: Your average expenditure to secure both featured characters on a duo banner drops from ~191 pulls under the old rules down to ~140 to ~145 pulls.>450–500 Total Saved Pulls: Across 10 patches, you will spend roughly 1,400 to 1,450 pulls compared to ~1,910 in the old system, increasing your total net savings to 450-500 pulls (54,000+ Pyroxenes).>2 to 3 Free Pity Guarantees: Rather than saving just enough for one bonus character, the combined savings and rebates fund the equivalent of 2 to 3 additional full pity guarantees for free over a year of gameplay.>Zero Catastrophic Dry Spells: Severe resource drains are completely eliminated. Everyone will get a much safer, predictable, and rewarding baseline for their account over the long run.You literally couldn't have won harder. God bless Nexon.
arona should give me a naizuri
>>575554885I don't want a 50/50, I want the gacha system we've had for over 5 years and liked. No one asked them to change it.
Ok, you happy now, can we move on?Makoto sex.
Here's how the new ticket system will go:>40 free tickets per banner>for this special event, we are increasing the free tickets to 60!>for the next event it's set at 30, but the last one is replaced with exclusive furniture>keep tinkering with it, up and down, but steadily lowering the number on average, but you get an exclusive profile banner (cropped from a preexisting background) on this one!>eventually step back down to what they originally planned after a year or so
Now THIS is shitposting
It's Kuzunover
>>575554918Cry about it retard. I want more students.
>>575554848This image is anti symmetric...
>>575554936No. I'm not happy.I'm not on a beach with anime girls, perfectly healthy, worry-free, relaxed, getting massaged kissed and sucked on by anime girls.I couldn't be any less happy.
This is a troll bake. Just wait for the birthday one then move on
>>575554885wrong, this assumes free tickets count towards pity or extra rewardsthey don't, so you're still going to have to roll 400 times in the worst case scenario, you'll just get 80 rolls worth of extra dupes and spooks
>>575554885>You literally couldn't have won harder.We literally could have if they'd kept the old system and added any of the improvements onto it instead of scrapping it.
>>575554885Losing the coinflip is going to feel like ass and getting the rateup at 190 is going to feel even worseRefute this without some stupid "it averages out" nonsense If the gacha feels that shitty people will quit long before it averages out
>>575554885I don't give 2 shits about your long-term averagesnot all banners are equally important and I want to decide when and how much I pull with no fucking pity bullshit trying to psychologically manipulate me
Rejected Eimi Alt
>>575554885We would've won far harder if they kept the spark system and gave us the rebate tickets on top of that.
>job interview in 4 hours>still awake bagposting
So is it fixed or is it a shitty bandaid?
>>575554885I don't care, I want the old system
>>575554885nobody wants that shitty 50/50 get over it
>omg I am dropping this kusoge pls tell me a gacha to pick up!!>pls play (insert gacha) it is absolutely perfect and has no problems!can these fags make it any more obvious??
>>575555047It's fixed for the most part now
>gacha bonus reset every new banner cycleI really hope this is true and it's not just a one-time bonus to calm us down
>>575554885>God bless Nexon.You bootlickers are so fucking retard holy shit lmao
>>575555018why would they not count towards pity?
>>575555086They literally say in the notes that it resets every time the banners change.
>>575555030God Damn.
>>575554945New tenners are only available for that banner only and only exist if you commit to roll. I won't be surprised if that happens since it's Nexon.
>>575554945>Here's how the new ticket system will go:>i made it up in my head
>>575555106Because xis axe wound says so.
>>575555047Depends how your first few coin flips go, that will govern your impression of the whole system from here on
>>575555030>virgin killer sweaterGUH
>>575555106Because other games with this gacha system do it that way, so it's a very real possibility.
did i understand this right? you get some blue material instead of sparks now?
>>575555106Because in a different game they don't, according to his posts in the last thread.Sound reasoning.
>>575555103Thank you saaaaar for replying to bait/bag/gots are very upset saaaaar, you earned good izzat saaaaaaar
Be honest
>>575555106because they never do in pretty much every gacha that uses similar system
>>575555047Bandaid.Before - slightly better than spark system on average (like 10 pulls difference) but with massive variance that makes planning your pulls much harderNow - moderately better on average but the core problem remains the same
>>575555030boring
>>575555106I doubt it won't count, people just want to doom
>come back home, sensei. we love youwhat do?
can't the japs roll already?why won't they tell us if the free rolls count to pity
>>575555030Man someone inside must be extra pissed leaking this stuff. More respectable than the shit Pikaman and his rats were doing.
>>575555190>in a different gameso he has no idea and is making shit up. got it. we'll see how it works exactly after the patch is up I guess. if it counts I'm okay with this (still prefer the old system, just to be clear), otherwise it's fucked up
>>575555167I now believe in the happy ending.
>>575555189aren't they those blue crafting things? don't care for them myself
>>575555189Yes, that means it fucks over affectionfags and metawhales the most, meaning Nexon fucked up because they will complain the most and will probably send trucks too
>>575554848>https://x.com/Blue_ArchiveJP/status/2081968032797364716>700 replies already
>>575554885Cool, but where are my elephs from sparking a dupe if I won hard rolling that I lost?
>>575555252Anon, maint hasn't even happened...
>>575555252Tomorrow
Just revert itIt doesn't need to be that complicated
>>575555252Retard.
I thought Japs were ignoring the possibility of tickets not counting towards pity but I guess they do they just don't think it's a big deal?
>>575555159It came to me in a dream.
>>575555291you're rude
>>575555047nah shit's fucked big time m8
It's meganekkover!
>>575555106Because in Endfield the free 10 ticket you get from rolling doesn't count towards pity for example.Doesn't count?
>>575555293>not counting towards pityOf course they count towards pity you dumb fuck.
>>575555239Faggot
so...can we be hyped abt Pandfes now, knowing that the drama is already over?
>>575555281If you're such a luckchad just roll more copies normally.
>>575554929Assuming this is real (i don't believe so but for the sake of argument), would that also mean that pulling the rate up on these tickets doesnt reset your pity counter?
>>575555293Japs are utterly retardedIt's why their gacha scene is a wasteland filled with kusoge
Are we back? Post hopefumis if you think so.
Reminder they don't differentiate between pyro/tickets/time-limited tickets and atrictly define the condition of a charge count increasing by a roll so the >i-it doesn't count retards can go back to their shitholes>「呼び出しチャージ」は、ピックアップ生徒を募集でお迎えできるまで、募集を行う毎にカウントされます。
>>575555384least obvious shill post
>>575555374They won't rugpull like this, they're in enough trouble already
>>575555362She looks like she can kick Sensei in the nuts and get away with it
>>575555362can't wait to get my heart broken once she takes off the glasses in the L2D
>>575555417
>new system introduced >/bag/ freaks out >proceed to have 10 meltdown threads in the span of 24 hours>new system released >its a nothing burgerI'm getting real sick of this shit.
>>575555425Excuse us for wanting to talk about the game for once
>>575555362Do the new Gehenners have names or a club?
>>575555446system hasn't been released yet, RETARD
>>575555279>Top 2 repliesGrim
Rejected Momoi Alt
>>575555275how does getting some shitty leveling materials instead of a guaranteed banner pull "fuck with whales"needing to win two 50/50 to get two characters with 200 pulls seems omega ass compared to just pulling one character before 200 pulls and sparking the other
>>575555426the reason Kim didn't dogeza yet is because they're saving it precisely for the moment people find out about this and the real shitstorm begins
>>575555446Pretty sure we had a lot more than 10.
sending them out to die like that its just too cruel of them
>>575555446
Does Ibuki masturbate yet?
>>575555446It's not a nothingburger either way, the gacha is getting significantly cheaper
>>575555384These artfags are blind. The fucking top is semi-transparent but very few draw it correctly.
>>575555446it wouldn't have been that way if they talked more in detail about this when they introduced it. if instead of just showing a couple slides and going over it in under a minute they had showed us the reward system and explained more how it works, that wouldn't have happened
>>575555471It's more about the fact you say the drama is over while a glance at literally any Blue Archive content on social media would tell you people, including JP players, are angrier at Nexon for doubling down and not saying anything.
>>575555541Buy an ad.
it's a nothingburger you stupid gambling addicts, anyways buy pakeji
We need to rape Reisa!
If the free rolls don't count towards pity, I'm going to sadistically torment everyone who said they would.On the other hand, if they do count towards pity then I'm hoping you guys mature a little and learn to win with grace for once.
>>575555541What traction? That game won't even last a year
>>575555279>>575555496Forgot my image award
>>575555287can't do that, they need to milk the playerbase with the new gacha model
>>575555275Affectionfags get gifts directly instead of coping with stone fragments.
>>575555541nigger
>>575555508Wtf this is nice
>deleted
>>575555508Keep em coming leakchad
>>575555275oh, don't worry about affectionfags, Nexon already took care of them
>>575555508>real tail>real earsan actual catgirl momoi? wtf, cute. where's green momoi?
I know it's embarrassing that I am so fucking attached to a gacha game, but BA actually has brought a lot of positivity to my chud lifeit's just depressing thinking about how all this stuff can just disappear because of this stupid decision
>>575555627I suspected as much considering the number of replies I saw with a moonrune name but curiously posting images with English text.
>>575555627Rumao.
>>575555579The drama is over because after a doubling down like this there is no going back. Only one day left for the patch. That's it. And after it's implemented it will become the new normal.
how to refer this tragedy in the future? BA pity incident? sparklocaust?
>>575555616Anus without lube
>>575555067Yep>"/bag/ is the only place where there's so many people defending the new system!!"Meanwhile>more offtopic images than ever>"hey fellow baggots which should I play" is followed by a bunch of retards shilling something noone here would playReally makes you think
I want to see anon's reaction to the current aggie so bad. Especially for a certain drawing.
>>575555574they didn't talk about it in detail because there was no more detailthey're either hurriedly trying to "patch" it to make it seem better due to backlash, or this was the intention all along, a psychological trick like that other anon pointed out last threadhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door-in-the-face_technique
>>575555508Feels very Atelier-esque.
>>575555508This looks so dogshit i have to think the leaker is just AI slopping this
>actually posting concept art leaksYou guys really want to kill this game?
Six seven
>>575555670>shorthaired keiwe were robbed...
>>575555508Toreador Momoi?
>>575555508>all the retards doubted the twins were real catgirls>I was right all along
>>575555762Reisa needs to be raped for this post.
I'm brown
>>575555783monster hunter Momoi
>>575555704see >>575555425
>>575555754If this faggot starts leaking actual future content I'm going to be pissed
>>575555754they deserve it for having piss poor security and not realizing the hacker took more than they thought
posting it here isn't really gonna do anythingdo it in a reply to a xitter announcement and you'll do actual damage
>>575555670This will forever be MY Kei
That will be another 2658 BLACKED Archive AI images added to sad panda.
>>575555508Why cant they fix the clown shoes
>>575555803Kei ripped Momoi's ears off. She was waiting to get them surgically reattached when she was in that hospital bed.
>>575555508Doubting it's real now.Why would they show rejected alt in the artbook when it could be released later on.
>>575555731I'm pretty sure they did mention a reward system on the stream
>>575554918Literal boomer mentality
>>575555857He's just doing it to piss off the traitors
I can't believe this shitty drama just had to happen right when my beloved Pandemonium summer and Gehenna volume were announced.
All they needed... was to show Ibuki's navel.
Rejected Midori Alt
Nips seethingGook riotingChink ragingGlobal? Lol lmao, the math is matching guys, it's a good systemSeriously...
wait what the fuck their gaming headphones are actual cat-ears and they just encased their ears in plastic
How prepared are you?
>>575555794I want to rehabilitate roogi
sluts of Gehenna
>>575555875moe-charm points don't need fixing.
>>575555742It definitely looks AI generated. I don't believe it at all. Definitely an attentionwhore
>>575555627Wow, real japs!
>>575555857korean forums tooarcalivedcinsidefmkorea
>>575555857I've been signal boosting angry Japanese and Korean responses for the last 3 hours, I'm doing my part
>>575555794what terrifying thoughts lurk beneath the surface of niya2? Total sensei rape?
>mfw losing 7 50/50 in a row, a 0.78% chance to happen>but it will average out (in the next 1000 rolls)
>>575555910These are actually just MonHun alts. A Pukei-Pukei died for this.
doom is over
>>575555510Metawhales want for ligma and have a choice to redeem the eleph for the character they want, before they could get spooked by rateup, have enough for UE40-UE50 and choose the eleph for second student who is only 4*Now they don't have such choice, spend ligma or roll more
>>575555920answer your phone
I can't believe Villain Midori is real...
>>575554918Why do you think everyone liked it? I'm a new player and the current system where anything from 1 to 199 is entirely empty sucks balls. You can never pull anything
>>575555910HOLY CUTEGIVE HER TO ME NOW
>PandemoniumFES kills the gameYou can't make this shit up
reminderhttps://youtu.be/xpuUpGqSPOA
Seia's ASMR is kinda meh. It's not bad, but it feels like a listening exercise of poetic phrases.
Only thing I learned today was the mathlets are actually holding society back.
>>575556000Midori is racist towards ESLs....
For the record I trusted the Devs on the new gacha system before it was considered cool
>>575555957>signal boostingWhat? I'm too old to know what that means
>>575555627Honorary japanese
>the new gacha decision was influenced by Yostar >Global never gets the new gacha update because of the backlash it received and is managed completely by Nexon instead is it actually possible?
>>575555910>>575555508>>575555030Scrapped gamer event I guess after they decided to ramp up Deca.
>>575556003Because I played for 5 years and if I didn't like it I would have left, and I expect others to behave the same
>>575556000>555>000It's villain midori time baybee
>>575555803>twinstriplets*
>>5755556372 gifts for a spark?! Are you serious?!
>>575556086Nope, keeping up 2 different systems is too complicated
>>575556086probably not but it would be super fucking funny because it would show Yostar was lying about being against it
>>575556086it'd be really funny if that was the case
>>575556047Momoi, you can't say that about Karin
>>575555990yeah i spark for ligma on fest too and i havent spend a single dime on this game, i ask again how do you mental gymnast that a shittier system is better for the game because it fucks with people
>>575556003Is it not evident from the fact that everyone is up in arms over them changing it?
>>575555754Ist just someone that got the art book they are selling early
>>575556086that would be great, now I can tell accelniggers who like this to play JP
>>575555030>2020Either way anything other than the default outfit is better for Eimi
>>575556047stop being racist, Momoi
>/bag/ falling for AI generated "leaks"A new low
>>575555710sparkalypse
>pagpag continent just woke upi’m telling you right now this general won’t be usable 12 hours
Rejected Kotori Alt
>>575555106>>575555375>>575555617idk man, 80 free pulls is a lotif it counts, people will spend less on gacha, but then what's the point of changing the system in the first place? I don't think they're doing this for a bit more revenue...
>>575556220Is it? The text looks very strange compared to the previous artbooks.
where did these leaks come from?
>>575556047The biggest problem is that a lot of mathlets think they aren't mathlets because they calculated an average and didn't consider anything else.
>>575556290it's nighttime over there they've been awake for 12 hours already
>>575556290>won’t be usableWhat does that mean in practice?
>>575556306Momiji posted!
>>575556003What we're used to is good and changes are bad. What's there not to get?
>>575556316Gonna cry?
>>575556282You wouldn't mind if they're reposted on xitter then, right?
>>575556047You're not a mathgod just because you asked grok and it told you what it thought you wanted to hear
Remember how we laughed at that femoid gacha game a few weeks back for shitting itselfNow the tables have turned
>>575556305Because metafags will have to pull more for extra ligma.Dickpullers don't care so they won't be fucked over as much.
>>575556306I was going to say that but I'm not at my computer to post the old images
>>575556368maybe i will
Can someone run the simulations for a triple banner(3 PU) just to see how the 2 systems compare with the milestone rewards?
>>575555508It looks very fantasy-esque
>>575556047Anyone with basic math skills can tell you 50/50 is a scam.
>>575556220these were posted on the other /bag/ months ago so I doubt it
>>575556316The chink schizo theory from last thread may be real. Or it's just AI generated shit to make it looks real.
>>575556305>if it counts, people will spend less on gachanot necessarily. they'll just pull for more students because there'll be a carrot dangling in front of their faces and they may get them more easilyif you think about it that'd almost offset the possibility of getting 2 students in 200 before. since you get a 50/50 at 300 pulls and get 80 free pulls, you effectively spend 220 to have a good chance at it. you still spend a little more with that system
>>575556316The devs are pissed with the higher ups change to their beloved game and slipped someone a drive while shifting the blame on a hacker. My source? Came to me in a dream.
>>575556298goodher waistline is too slim
>>575556429It's already better without the milestone rewards anon, it would only be better with them.
>>575556306The ones with gook text look real.
>>575556316It's just the art book that got leaked
>>575556298wish they replace all the fucked up sprite of year1 students with images in this quality
imagine if gdd got their 2nd alt before pandesoc
>>575556446anon works at a publisher/printing press? it's not like artbooks are made overnight
>>575556429As soon as you pull past 400 pulls, the new system falls off a cliff compared to the old version so realistically you should never do this
Whats the prompt for those concept art
>>575556509two of them did.
>>575556446Other /bag/?
>>575556484>Art book that got leaked >With dates for when that stuff was conceptedI highly doubt it
>>575556446>>575556579This is the same poster.
>>575556579>he doesnt know
>>575556298My head goes here.
Rejected Haruna Alt
My odds for double foxsex with 30k pyros?
>>575556509I have news for you man
Did we win yet? Did """"they"""" back down?
>>57555664710/40
>>575556515he also posted rumi's swimsuit ones on the day of the chink stream which shouldn't have been featured in any artbook yet
>>575555021>>575555035It's supposed to be a gacha alright, there's supposed to be variance and uncertainty to it. The old system was objectively bad in regards to that and could be considered boring and hard to monetize. New one fixes it, and since the averages are much much better now the extra uncertainty and variance won't matter at all, only thing you'll get is more excitement and flexibility when it comes to pulling, and most importantly, more students.
>>575556405I have them on hand - the only way I thought the hand-written English text would make sense was if they'd been either AI generated or they were early drafts before they'd been formatted properly.Some of the dates down the bottom seem a bit odd too.>>575556481They look a lot closer to what I'd expect, but there's still oddities.>>575556298This has the formatting I'd expect, but why is it showing the gattling gun being held by a placeholder mob in an alt design when it's her base weapon?Maybe they're all legit, but I'd assumed it was internal leaks from unfinished stuff. If it's supposed to be the finished artbook then it feels like it's deviating from the standard.
>>575556665Doubled down, it's over
Post some ACTUAL leaks instead of concept art shit. I want to see videos of unreleased students
>>575556703>you're supposed to feel like shit when you roll on it, it's a FEATURE
>>575556647like 80% or so
>>57555664750/50
>>575556628Why even draw the chibi? These leaks aren't making sense
Somehow I don't feel anything about these leaks. Is there any alt that was discarded that is truly interesting?
>>575556457>Controversial thing happens>"""Coincidentally""" a ((((beautiful genius hacker)))) shows up out of nowhereHmmmmm
>>575556647Just win the 50/50 bro
>>575556628fake as shit
>>575556298>2019Isn't this a rejected concept for base Kotori then?I imagine it's in the reject pile because all Millennium students share a (mostly) consistent uniform.
>>575556709Ok B cannot be real
>>575556759almost like they aren't real. notice how he's only posting stuff an AI can easily generate.
I want her
>>575556298I WANT TO CRAWL UP HER SKIRT
https://x.com/Blue_ArchiveJP/status/2082028577256845716
>>575556709Why was I unaware that we were ROBBED of cowkini Eimi?
People are so used to the old system they don't want to realize how fucked up it actually is. What's the benefit of being able to spark another student when that student is gonna sit unused on your account? Getting student you want with 180 pulls and then getting another for 20 additional pulls is a waste of 2400 pyros in many cases but you do it anyway because otherwise the recruitment point would go to waste. With the new system, you'd spend only 100 pulls for that one student and walk away.
Students who would leak on me?
>>575556854The Goddess of handjob is here!
>>575556854SEX
>>575556869trvke
Rejected Beta Miyako Alt
>>575556869Spending 20 extra was how they get you, and if you did that in the old system then they'll get you in the new one too
>>575556628Yeah nah that one stinks.Here's the previous chibi shown from a design they actually used and it was properly drawn - that looks like an existing haruna 3d model edit.
>>57555664795.02% chance >>575554885Mandatory: new system bad
>>575556869>What's the benefit of being able to spark another student when that student is gonna sit unused on your accountMomos you soulless retard.
>>575556703>there's supposed to beCompletely meaningless statement that you just made up. You're saying that's the case but giving a reason why. And no, nothing you say is going to convince me that I want a 50/50.
>>575556921nigga no one is believing your ai slop anymore
>>57555592060k and a dream
>>57555664783.63%
>>575556960You can read them on youtube.
>>575556647
>>575556928That settles it
>>575556921>MiyakoEX>Real rabbit tail>Top right has fucking KIRINOI duno chief.
>>575556869Alternatively the new system is fucked up because it encourages you to waste 100 pulls on a student you otherwise would have walked away from. >But if you don't get her that's 100 pity off the next banner!And if you do get her, you have a student you would have skipped normally and you spent 100 rolls to get her.
>>575556703You sound like one of those cucks that complained with FGO gained pity because it 'ruined the stakes'.
>>575556921Dawg just generating anything now.
>>575556868Quick question, if you trannies are here every single day and claim to be /bag/, why did you not share this if it was allegedly several months ago.
>>57555664775% with 24kno you won't need to spend more
>>575556921>KirinoLet me guess, Miyako was initially her sister too?
>>575556854nice finally
Niyaniya
>>575557047we don't skip students here
>>575557047The new reward track killed the carry over pity anyway. You'd much rather get the free pulls from 100-200 than carry a guarantee into the next banner and roll 100 again. It might as well not exist.
>>575557019You can read the whole game in youtube too
I hate traitors
>>575557019You can also download jpgs of the students and fap to the porn then and not have to play this kusoge
>>575556921>Circles with real Miyako art presumably used for genning it that point to nothing related to what is in the circle or, in one case, nowhere at all.Looks legit.
>>575557110Bro, your skipogakis?
>>575557103Mid top is so much better LMAO at this game
btw those bottom right niyaniyas were released publicly ages ago and he copied and pasted them onto his AI generated girl to make it look legit lol
>>575557103current one with grey hair would have been kino
>>575554987
>>575557073They changed, they don't claim to be /bag/, they think they are the "real" /bag/ now
>>575556928Anon, pay close attention to what's being posted, some of these designs are made by the OG artists of each character. Some are dated to 2019, they are super old. These are clearly not from any artbook, anon seems to be an inside man.
has pikachuman weighed in on this
Is the new gacha actually not bad or are we being psyop'd by jewggers?
What I can actually see happing is that they will have kimmy go through the new system thoroughly and prove mathematically that it is better / the same on stream when this comes out for global Yostar just putting up a slide for 5 secs was honestly the biggest fuck up in all of this
>>575557236That's not a change. They claimed that on day 1, with the seia avatarfag and the hoshino avatarfag who does bond table in the front line.
>>575556298Her clothes actually look sane.
@grok generate me a suzumi alt using her original artist
>>575557180All the circled OG Miyako art is relevant to what it's pointing to
>>575557279it's literally 2 people ragebaiting
>Seia jannie event next week
>>575557279Psyop'd by gachaschizos that are permanently stationed in every /vg/ thread.
>get chinks on the dev team>leaks
>>575557279the only people defending pity are people who don't play this game
>>575557279It's better if you play optimally but has more traps. bag naturally assumes they will not fall for the tricks.
>>575557312One has no line and is simply placed below the phone.The other one gets a line, and points to a pocket - not the badge above it.No human functions like this.
>>575556452Correction, you get 50 free pulls by 300. >It's split, 10 being at 70, 30 at 130, 150, 170. >Then repeats the same pattern between 200-400. So to get the full 80, you'll be at 300 spent (370-70 free). Worst case where you go to the 400, your actual spent is 320, stopping at 300 is 250 spent. It incentivizes you to spend just a little bit more (70 pulls) after losing the 50/50 to get the full value of the second half of 300-400. Statistically this is still better than the old system, but you're right that they're dangling a carrot to entice you into going passed 200.
What is the point of spamming obviously fake character sheets? Is it to just talk about something else other than the gacha? We can do better.
>>575557237They don't look legit at all
Pitty
Rejected Suzumi Alt
>>575557073you're obviously replying to a shitposter
>>575557279I would consider the average amount of pulls to get 2 characters going down from 191 to 141 generally "good" but you may think othewrise I don't know.
>new system is mathematicaly and chartly good>is the new system good?>part xxx
sexy seia
>>575557279You'll end up better off if you don't fall for the psychological tricks of the 50/50 and assuming the free tickets count for pity. You will have less ligma though.
Reminder that in the new system you NEVER want to go over 400 pulls, cause any more pulls would be better spent on a future banner with refreshed 10 pull ticket milestone rewards
>>575557167>>575557126Maybe but it's not like you can pull every single student so some have to be skipped. The new system is better for both meta pulling or collecting your favorite students.
>>575557073Like >>575557236 said and because they like to gatekeep and be a sekrit club, just see >>575557217 trying to distort and claim those as fake because only them should be able to know about those.
>>575557047??? Then wouldn't that person have stopped at 90?
>>575557279Bad for ligma and edge case like getting all students in 200 rolls.But really losing the 50/50 is psychologically still sucks. At the same time not getting any purple in 200 rolls also sucks.So both system sucks in different way. Pick your poison.
>>575557449>Polish alts
>>575557236wow how jewish of them
>>575557539>At the same time not getting any purple in 200 rolls also sucksThankfully now you have one guaranteed Miyako per 200 rolls.
>>575557237That was my assumption at first too, someone claimed it was just someone getting the upcoming artbook early.Doesn't change the fact that it seems odd to be using a hand-written English text for internal stuff, or odd that a Haruna alt that didn't get implimented apparently had an ugly 3d chibi instead of the usual hand drawn ones.If it IS legit, which I'm doubting, then it's weird. That's all I'm saying.
>>575557508Yeah but there's a carrot right there. What if I just build a little pity?
>>575555920Eyy another Nikofag. Doing okay. I'm more interested in Yukino banner tho.
>>575557279There's a lot of falseflaggers and ragebaiters in this thread, don't trust anyone, not even me. Just think for yourself.My current opinion now that they show the recruitment rewards is: It's okay, it's now advantageous for worst case scenario and most scenario, however it still has the caveat that you no longer can properly budget your rolls and there are some traps that may get people to waste their rolls. If you rationally do your rolls, it's actually alright.
>>575557047>it encourages you to waste 100 pulls on a student you otherwise would have walked away fromWhat do you mean?
>>575557492Does it feel good if I get fucked in the ass multiple times though?
>suddenly shitposting about the other tab #noticing
chiaki appreciation post
>>575557539>edge case like getting all students in 200 rolls.
>>575556703Holy corpo speakAre you unironically from Nexon?
>>575557508You have to be an absurdly unlucky retard to go all the way to 400 pulls just to get two students
>>575557402The first one points to Miyako's Ribbon now placed on her gun, the second one points out the pocket on the side of her arm comparing to the hoodie and the third one is just a full drawing of the phone that is on Miyako's hand
Post the rejected microbikini Ibuki alt
>>575557617We're divorced but they keep calling us
Are we going to get the new gay gacha in global early? Please say no
>>575557617>make an advertising post>people tell you to fuck off>oy vey I am being oppressed
>>575557628>getting 2 students before 200 and sparking the lastone in a million
>>575557187my what?
>>575557620I can do that too
>>575557694probably 3 months early
>irohafuck trying to figure out if he should defend the new system or criticize it
>>575557694
>>575557505>>575557539>>575557606how bad is the lower ligma amount? With ue60 and potentially ue70 in the future isn't this concerning?
>>575557449See, now we get one that IS larping as a "real" artbook, but look at the way the hair is cut off compared to a real artbook doing the same.
>>575557653It gets a little iffy when you missed a blurfes unit or are a newbie playing catchup and need 3 or 4 students in a fes banner
>>575556703>only thing you'll get is more excitement and flexibility when it comes to pullingEA tier postNothing will convince me that removing player agency (spark) for muh average is a good thing for players
You guys can come play our game if you want instead
>>575557643At this point seeing how the new system gets glazed 24/7 I think it's unironically possible that nexon intern is the one who's busy with the gaslighting campaign
Cute Rejected Ibuki (Pajama) Alt
Are >we rolling tomorrow?
Edging students
>>575557279Don't trust anyone ITT right now, trust your own judgment. Try the new system and form your own opinion. If you lose coin flip feel free to rage here
>>575557714>>getting 2 students before 200 and sparking the lastYou are dishonestly misrepresenting the issue
>>575557279We don't know yetIf the bonus tickets count towards pity? it's good.If they don't? it's bad.
>>575557693it sounds like the other way around desu
>>575557392>>575557505This. Everything is more chaotic and the extra generosity is aimed at making people more greedy and prone to mistakes. If you are not careful you may actually end up worse.
>>575557279Would you please look at the graph >>575554885
>>575557610Current system: I mean, I wouldn't mind having this student, but I don't need her, so I'll save my pulls for a banner I really wantNew system: I mean, I wouldn't mind having this student, so I guess I can throw 100 at it and if I get her that's cool, otherwise I've got a discount on the next banner.And then you end up with a bunch of students that you weren't particularly fussed about, and you've drained your resources so you don't have as much when banners you really want come out. That's the point of this system vs. pity.>>575557524Trying to game pity is the worst trap you can fall into because you will spring it at the worst possible time.
>>575557832the math checks out, dont you watch rick and morty?
>>575557714>pityniggers want to deprive you of pic related
>>575557803>enjoy the retcons and NTR by a penguinlol, lmao even
>>575557279Do YOU think 50/50 are ever good?
all arisfags and keifags are traitors
>>575557714What? That happens all the time. What do you mean "one in a million" lmao
>>575557836Does it? Someone with their extension screenshots a post in their general and posts it here through ban evasion.Care to explain that?
>>575557785the inconsistency of all these images makes me think the llm can't quite get a grasp on what an art book is supposed to look like and only has a vague idea
>>575557103This is literally that fgo character
Unreleased Beta Student named Kurumi
>>575557892pityniggers don't play the game and don't get joy of sparking
>>575557785are you stupid or something? those are not supposed to be pretending to be artbook leaks, they're supposed to be actual dev material leaks>>575557103this might be in the artbook eventually or the Kei ones from before, but most of this stuff seems like proper leaks if they weren't AI generated
>>575557778It's not lower. You just need to pull for dupes now.
>>575557908wait I saw the penguin NTR art, is it canon?
Aieeeeeeeeeeee I'm sheep that needs to be told what to think, how I can judge for myself especially when the system doesn't come to global for 3-4 months
>>575557440sex.
angel pits
>>575557927five hundred thousand in a million
>>575557928How come you know about their extensions niggerYou outed yourself
>>575558005>you need to wait for the supermarket to replace meat with bugs before you can have an opinion on it
>>575557892>luckniggerGet fucked retard lmao.
>>575557757Why should we do anything? The new system is objectively better with the new information.
If these are real 4chan is going to get hit by a huge lawsuit and going to shutdown
>>575558028I am not a fucking newfag like you and I experienced the two weeks when 4chan was down.
>>575557856your previous premise is retarded to begin with, you're literally being concerned of a retard falling into the trap
>>575557953>filepathThese are actually real lmao
MOMMY
>>575557953>some esoteric gun design with the glock by its sideThese leaks are real
>>575558005>how do I know it's cold in winter?
>>575558062not happening, the FBI needs it
>>575558041what if the bugs taste better?
The writing on the wall was in plain sight, you just chose to ignore it
>>575558083How about you fuck off back there then?
>>575557856This.From the start, everyone knew the point of these changes was not to make "le averaaaaaaages" better for players, but to introduce more traps and pitfalls to make players burn their stashes on nothing on the promise of good "averaaaaaages" in the future
>>575557913>when I win 50/50Yes.>when I lose 50/50No.
Unreleased Shanhaijing (?) Student
>>575557892your what?
>>575558146I'm still not eating the bugs
>>575558117I love when girls have breasts on the smaller side like this
>>575558160There is not a single minute I spent in that shithole since 4chan came back. Do not accuse me of being a mentally ill tranny like they are. Tell them to stop coming here instead.
>>575558147Does this mean we're getting Garrus?
>>575558004Yes
>>575558004no it's browns and tourists that think this
>>575557953>Nambu Type 90https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nambu_Type_90Proto Kaede?
>>575558147What's an Earchive?
>>575557856I see, but the bonus tickets you get from pulling discourage this strategy. If you split 100 pulls between two banners, you get refunded only 20 via tickets vs 40.
I need these leaks compiled to a single source you wouldn't say no to your buddy gookako right?
Ehehe~https://litter.catbox.moe/gzdc0yeg8qyvau15.png
>>575557279In the old way>I need to beat the 0.7% within 200 rolls and I'm done. I will seethe if I still can't beat it in 400 rollsIn the new way>I need to either 1. beat the 0.7% within 100 rolls or 2. the 50/50 at the 100th roll TWICE. Also if I beat the 0.7% at roll 199, Nexon will laugh at my retarded ass on top and as I seethe and wish that this 0.7% win could've been after I got the guaranteed banner student at roll 200th and it would've net me 2 students instead.
>>575558062>Blue Archive takes down a mossad website with it.I wouldn't have it any other way.
>>575557913It's not the end of the world.
>>575558083>can't go two weeks without 4chan>has to go to some other website like a cuckPathetic
>>575557279Imo it looks better on average but has trap to make you spend more>Before: 200 rolls is a good stopping point. If you get one you can spark the other then stop. If you fail then so be it, just spark one>Now: You're encouraged to go above 200 if you fail even one 50/50 due to the reward and the possibility of winning the next 50/50
>>575558228NTA but what was so bad about it?
>>575557778It's complicated and I don't want to do math. Just note that the 100th roll is guaranteed 3*, so under the new system if you roll 200 times you get +30 ligma (from recruitment bonus) and +50 ligma +30/100 elephs from the guaranteed 3*.It's likely worse, but I have no idea if it's thaaat bad.
>>575558107All of them are real except that one falseflagger that posted the miyako one which is actual AI slop, but it's really funny how /bag/ is so fucking bad at detecting what art is clearly AI or not.
>>575558234I'm gonna assume you meant Gyarus and say yes (hopefully)
>>575558263The bonus is shared cumulative across both banners within the same period by the way
>>575558190cute eyebrows
Early Akira
>>575558341It's not worse. It's better, but you have to roll for duplicates.
>>575558083>went there when 4chan was downI just stopped browsing threads the whole time
the current system has a considerably higher chance of getting 2 rateups in a single spark (40%) before even spending the spark than the chance of getting none (25%) and pityshills still want you to accept the ass-fucking you're getting
>>575558291I hate AI sloppa
I tanked the 2 weeks 4chan was down with my hobbies.
I thought people were joking about the existence of /bag2/
>>575558289Finally an artfag that isnt blind holy shit.
>>575558385I like bottom right outfit, better than the (still good) current one
>>575558401Show your math faggot
>>575558084It's the premise this system is designed around. Retards will fall into the trap, that's the point. And people who think they aren't retards will fall into it to because they think they know better. The new system is more predatory, and I was directly responding to someone saying the current system encourage you to waste 20 pulls to finish a spark.
dont tell them
>>575558295losing the 50/50 = not beating the 0.7% within 200 rolls
>>575558458lol just google any fucking binomial calculator and input the numbers yourself dumbass
>>575558390That doesn't even make sense. I have no idea where you're coming from.
Isn't it inconsiderate of the jews to prey on retards even if smart ppl will be better off with the new system?
>>575558325Before you were encouraged to spend 200 rolls even if you got the student you wanted earlier. That "might as well finish the spark since I planned for it" is a psychological trap to make you spend more than you need to.
>>575558517>jews>morals
>>575558517You are not smart if you play gacha. Don't pretend like you're better than us.
>>575558385Numero 1 is pure sex.
>>575558504hmmm I wonder why you wouldn't show your math
Early Fluffy Mika
>>575558518and now you are forced to spend 300 if you fail one 50/50 instead
>>575558504I accept your concession
>>575558551I am the retard that will fall for their traps which is why I am worried
>>575558295If you're applying the constant that 1-99 and 101-199 are failed rolls in the latter to invoke the 200 pity you have to apply that to the old system too, you have to roll one PU in 2 non-intervention 0.7% rolls in the old system
How is dumping leaks going to solve anything? If anything this gives them leverage to throw out Kim and install somebody who will make the game even worse
>>575558518you finish the spark for the eleph you need to actually make the student useful besides just sitting in your lobby
>>575558356Yeah, these are definitely not from the artbook or aislopped but leaked from Nexon. Who's the retard who thought it would be a good idea to post these on a public forum?
>>575558517smart people don't play gacha
>>575558581actual wife material unlike the Mika we got
>>575558581>mikasheep was the original planwtf
The usual suspects are spamming the BA radio chatshttps://youtu.be/M2Poiral3Jk
>>575558517A lot of the very smart and very special people in this thread will think they are above gambling systems like this. The house always wins.
>>575558518This is true, but it was a trap that generally played into the rolling strategy that evolved (don't pull unless you have a spark). Those extra rolls were already budgeted for. It didn't encourage impulse rolling, which is bad for a gacha game.
>>575558581Cute fluffy hair.Outfit feels cluttered and overdesigned though.
>>575557610NTA, but if you get the first 50/50 on banner A, you spent 90. Now your next 100 pulls for the next 50/50 on banner B, you'll spend 70. You may be inclined to spend that 70 extra just because you're enticed by the 30 pulls instead of just quitting. Though it's probably not worth it to go for the 200-300 and just let the pity carry over in this case if you weren't too keen on getting banner B anyway.Then lets say you wanted both and had to go to 200 for banner B, stopping at 300 total(250 out of pocket), you could be enticed to spend another 70, for 400 total(320 out of pocket) or maybe even just stopping just before the guarantee. Of course, you could get lucky early and have no reason to get the extra pulls or take advantage of the 50/50 odds.
>>575558684The radio is not actually a livestream so it's not a big deal
>>575558329Considering the silence, he probably just got banned and is holding a grudge
>>575558581holy damn, Mika is cuteI still prefer with wings though.
>>575558581I don't hate this, but the Mika we got is better
>>575558578>>575558606say "aaah" you stupid motherfuckers
Early Fluffy Mika 2
>>575558628Retards don't think, they just leak grey matter.
The best psychological tricks are the ones that work even when the mark knows they're being tricked. You are not immune to gacha shenanigans.
>>575558731I just don't want to give you more attention that you desire. I know that listing the arguments for why your shit stinks would lead to a long back and forth where you defend it.
>>575558517You already sold your soul to jews the moment you play this game.
>>575558663but im smart
>>575558794Go back nigger
>>575558828I won't fall for it. I'm not a metafag anyways.
IMPORTANT QUESTION: Are the gacha rates different for FES under the new system?
>>575558812I am so glad our gacha game doesn't have gacha designs in it.
>>575558603Just because you fail 50/50 doesn't mean that you'd need to go all the way. Otherwise it'd be the same as not getting any rate up in 200 in the old system. You also get 50 rolls back if you roll 270 times in the new system.>>575558642Funny how narrative changed from "you don't need to roll for dupes, our gacha is so much better" to "you will finish the spark for dupes". Rolling for ligma is generally a whale thing.
>>575558812The Mika we got looks better for the Mika character but I want to fuck this one more
>>575558862the smartest even *smooch*
>>575558581If these are real then this is miles better than the dummy slut we got
Oddyssey student council
>>575558905>Rolling for ligma is generally a whale thingRolling 200 for ligma is a whale thing. Rolling 30 to finish a spark for a huge ligma boost is not a whale thing.
>>575558714>you could be enticed to spend another 70, for 400 totalWhy? the counter reset so why go for 400
>>575558905what narrative change, you dumb nigger? that's what's always been said here, if you're already close to a spark might as well finish it, obviously you don't fucking do that if you're only halfway through one
I almost have everyone I want, pulled almost every limited I wanted, yet I've never went red nor did I spent anything other than a single selectorI AM immune to propaganda, comes with being a little autistic
>>575558938zoos?
>>575558505Precisely because of what you pointed out, because if you lose the 50/50, which is the worst case scenario you get extra ligma, and if you win it that means you got the student early thanks to the system.
>>575558714In case you accept losing the 50/50 and save the guarantee some other student, then there's no difference is there? You get to the 50/50 with 70 and get that new student with 90 vs 90+70.
@Claude AI generated me Azusa but make her Odyssey themed
>>575558581>>575558812>ojou-sama Mika is realcute
>>575558905>Funny how narrative changed fromThat's not a narrative change.You do not need to roll for dupes. Ligma is there.No one is advising people who sparked a Mika to do 200 more rolls to spark some more ligma.If you got spooked by Mika at 180 then 20 rolls more to spark some (or someone else) saves you a lot of fucking ligma though.
>>575558938too sloppy
in short, they are KEEPING that points reset, and are hoping to shut us all up by giving us some sort of rewards milestone as we rollfuck that, ramp that shit up everyone
>>575558938What's her name? Chad Jippity?
>>575557279Unambiguously better despite retards whining. If you spent the same amount of pulls as before, you'd now end up with 25% more students. Or rather, you'll be spending 25% less pyros over time. People still complaining are idiots.
>>575558581That's a lot worse. Who even is that
>>575558938>SRT Odyssey?
>>575558938really funny how the falseflaggers are just proving that the leaks are real by showcasing what actual AI slop looks like
>>575559075>fuck that, ramp that shit up everyonenot your personal army, thank you very much
Yes, I'm the OP of this legendary leaker thread.
>>575558938>School>SRT Special Response Team OdysseyI know it's fake, I just can't prove it...
>>575559091You just made those numbers up
>>575559125>he didn't read the new FOX chapter
MASSIVE victory for akobros
>>575559075You will never be Japanese
so what's the consensus on this entire new gacha system. Can I UE40 S.Makoto reliably or nah?
>>575558905>just spend more past 200 if you fail one 50/50>just spend even more for 50 roll refoundgenius
>>575559151Don't forget the Odyssey emblem and>Class: Specialist
MFW they keep the better gacha system
>>575559091how can we help the goyim to understand?
>>575559159see the first post in the thread
>>575559179Only you get dupes.
>>575558984>spoilerI got Mine with that and then half a year later she spooked meMaybe I should've gone with Toki instead, idk
>>575559214Nexon totally changed the gacha to make it more generous!
>>575558862You know what? Chise might be immune to propaganda.
There's no way global will follow the new system, right?
>>575559150WHY DIDN'T YOU BAKE A GOOKAKO BREAD
>>575559179>Can I UE40 S.Makoto reliably or nah?yes. roll for her, get her at 100 or 200, then buy the 2 eleph pakeji
>>575559264I will riot if they don't.
>>575559179>UE40Pathetic.
>>575556854>>575556898s. satsuki's EX animation made me gen way too much imminent handjob sloppa
>>575559264Idk the jews have convinced me the new system is good so I kind of want it now
>>575559179If you're not a neet then it's easier compared to the old system
>>575559334retard
>>575559264global will EOS before we get the new system...
>>575559252you got your what?
>>575558976Need neru gf
>>575559286>pakeji>nexonI need to fucking nuke Nexon HQ>why won't you buy pakejibecause Maplestory told me all there is to know about nexon
>>575559136>falseflaggerdude, im just shitposting for the lulz. nobody stupid enough in bag to buy it
>>575559264global will get priconne'd
>>575559334giga retard. The new system is worse unless you're paypig for eleph pack
>>575559214>/gbfg/ schizo is here as well
>>575559091>If you spent the same amount of pulls as beforeThat's the thing, will you? How will you measure yourself not getting more greedy overtime without you noticing?
>>575559075>when you recruit a featured student through "10 recruitment attempts"what if I pull one student at a time?
>>575559191Why are you so fixated on 50/50. The normal rates didn't go away, you just get an additional high chance to get the character at 100 rolls.
>>575558954Well you could stop at 380 total(50 extra out of pocket + the 250), spending the maximum free tickets to bank later. You might accidentally get "lucky" though and punt the extra charge anyway.
50/50 coin flips are good for you actually
>>575559256They actually made the gateway product easier so they can promote the pakeji
>>575559460elf said this
So how many of you quit already?
>>575559389well, that's your only reliable way under the new system. hope you rike
>>575559481>they made it easier by complicating it tenfoldWhy didn't they just adjust the rates instead?
>>575559447His point is that if you fail that 50/50, getting it with normal rates between 101 and 199 still leads to needing to go over 200.
TSUCHINOKOOOOOOOOOO! DOKO DESU KAAAAAAAA??
Count how many times you got the rate up in 100 rolls or less. That's your new 50/50 win rate. How fucked are you?
>>575559517>durr look how retarded I amyou realize this game is F2P and purchases are optional right? I'll just stop buying anything besides the monthlies
>>575559441Because I'm not a retard who chases """free""" pulls and pity milestones. I plan my pulls and I pull what I want.
>>575559460Better a 50/50 coin flip than no coinflip and a 0.7/3% rate all the way up to 200
>>575559405bro your reading comprehension
Isn't 50:50 massive for FES units given how crap the rates are for those?
The leaks are being posted on arca btw
The new system is only seen as a good thing if you're a smart person. Stupid people see only a bad system. You're not stupid, are you?
DUDE THIS SYSTEM KICKS ASSI CAN SPARK WHILE I'M PULLING>Buruu Akaibu ssu!HAHAHAHAH DUDE THESE GIRLS ARE SO FUCKING CUNNY THEY MAKE ME WANNA PULL WITHOUT PLANNING
how many hours till this shit goes live?
turns out most sensei are bad at maths
coom in doomrope in hope
>>575559578Except that you need to win two coin flips in a row vs just needing to win the 0.7% once in 200 rolls.
Yes! Under the new system, you get more back if you spend more!
>>575557892>he pulled for shinata before sui>he pulled for shinata and subaru before Mineembarrasing
I'm Jewish and I'm sad people blame us for everything wrong in this world.
>>575559643>maths
>>575559441The best thing will be to ignore the reward track and just roll for a single character on each banner. It will even out in the end and you don't fall into traps.
>>575558189Now, do YOU win the 50/50 every single time?
>>575559630
>>575559570so how exactly are you benefiting from more layers of RNG? the 25% more spooks that aren't the reason you even pull on a banner in the first place?
>>575559179>so what's the consensus on this entire new gacha system.Better for new accounts because you get a bunch of extra random ssrBetter for persons that only want one copy and one copy only of one of the studentsShit for the rest of the universe>old system75% of times: 2 pickup ssr by roll 20025% of times: 1 pickup ssr by roll 200>new system50% of times: 1 pickup ssr by roll 10050% of times: 1 pickup ssr + 1 random ssr by roll 200You can get UE40 Makoto by buying elephs in the shop now, if you try to get her by rolls you are utterly fucked compared with the old system
>>575559517nexon literally region blocked me they don't want me playing the game in the first place
>>575559618I was going to post them on xitter but if the gooks found out about it then I don't need to.
>>575559661That's not how it works you brown retard.
>>575559643exactly! Stupid emotional gacha players, now buy pakeji
>>575559578https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers
>>575559630Yes, it's all unplanned and I never pull out
Which student would advocate for total swedish death?
The amount of people going THEY CHANGED THE GACHA SYSTEM THEY GAVE IN TO THE PRESSURE LOOK AT THE DAMAGE CONTROL when they already announced that there would be 10 pull tickets in the new gacha system is making me lose faith in EN side's reading comprehension
>>575559669well, stop ruining everything then
>>575559667what, you can't tell a dickroll when you see it? dumbass
>>575559762reverse momoi
>>575559735You need to win the 75% twice instead of once, is that better?
>>575558305That answer by itself says a lot
>>575559690Why are you bad at math?
>>575559735That's literally exactly how it works. Don't talk about probability when you don't even have high school statistics knowledge.
>nexon deliberately leaking old irrelevant garbage to try to distract the cattle from the gacha fiascoPathetic.
>>575559762
>>575559735Hmmm, yes it does.
>>575559518>>575559690Maybe I'm going schizo but I'm getting Maplestory flashbacks. Nexon squeezed out like, 10 grand total from me back in the day. Don't worry I haven't spent a single dime on gacha ever since.
>>575559687We're benefiting by having both students cost vastly less than before.
Can I send pakeji to Nexon instead of buying from them?
>>575559690You still have the normal chance to pull a pickup on any of those 200 rolls in the new system retard
>>575559643If your maths that say the new system is better can't explain why is so much worse in the very specific case of getting the ssr at roll 180 scenario means you didn't include all the necessary variants in the math
>no pat remindersIs it over?
>>575559669do you reckon hitler maybe had a point?
>>575559852wrong
>>575559661If winning the 0.7% once happens in the old system, shouldn't you apply that occurrence in the new system if you'e directly comparing the two instead of comparing the chance interventions at 100 rolls in the new system in isolation
>>575559715anything leaked in this general may as well be leaked across the entire fanbase. gooks, chinks, seaniggers, twitterfags. you name them. they all lurk
>winning the 0.7% at roll 199th in the old system>"winning" the 0.7% at roll 199th in the new system
>>575559885does it matter
>>575559956This is really the only thing that matters. Anyone defending it is retarded.
>>575559885Remember to gogurt you are studentsbetter?
>>575559883You're right, we should remove the spark because of the situations where you roll 300 and don't get either students.
>>575559778Real?
>>575559987You can post your roll history and show how many times you've done that.
Waiting for someone to tell me why it's good for players that pity resets
>LEAKED concept art>is being posted in JP Twitter>is being posted in KR Arca>is being posted in CN Weibo>they are quoting /bag/ in 4chan as the sourceARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
>>575559778They didn't tell you the exact amount. For all we know it might have been 10 free for every 200 before the shitstorm.
>>575560034Nexon makes more money and BA lives forever
>>575558518Yes but it's a conscious decision you make AFTER you got your desired student(s) so you're in control and have knowledge this might or might not hurt your stashRight now it's a decision you make BEFORE you get the student(s) because you MIGHT win the next 50/50, so your decision making is affected by the gamble side of things on the promise you win the next oneSo those are different situations
>>575560053
>>575559943Okay, my bad. You need to win two 75/25 coin flips in a row (combined chance of 0.7% and 50/50) vs just needing to win the 0.7% once in 200 rolls.
>>575560013Yes. They already had announced the 10 ticket milestone thing. Although they didn't specifiy how many of them you were going to get.
>>575559881But the old spark builds up independendly while the new pity dissappears when you get it, retard.On the long run you are missing all the spark points and replacing them by random ssr, do you understand that?
>>575560053Does Nexon have the power and influence to take this site down?
>>575559630kek
>>575559851They are, cashback actually makes you want to spend more.
>>575559669the holocaust should have happened
https://x.com/Blue_ArchiveJP/status/2082043589983670717
>>575560053Intern-kun is Nexon's strongest warrior
>>575560053What's a /bag/
>>575559942Why's that?
Need SXE GF
>>575560053>nexon is going to fight 4chanholy fuark
>>575560146The replies are not happy...
Why cant they just keep the old gacha system and dont change anything?Otherwise we’d be celebrating pandemonium event by now
>>575555030kind of saw this in pv 3
>>575558390>It's not worse. It's better, but you have to roll for duplicates.So in short, it's worse
>>575559778>>575560117japs on 2channel thought it would be 10 roll for 200 rolls as consolation price>inb4 saying japs when it was just one postThey have updooks. The post had many updooks.
are koreans the most jewish asians?
>>575560162This officer committed police brutality
>>575560162Need sxe pits to lick and sniff
>>575560027>roll historywat
>>575560146Chiaki is Mexican!?
>>575559943Winning the 0.7% means different things in both systems. In one hitting the 0,7% you lose the progress, in the otherh itting the 0,7% doesn't lose the progress
>>575560053links? i want to see this
https://arca.live/b/bluearchive/178236163THEY ARE KOREANSIN THIS THREADRIGHT NOWMONITORING /bag/Say hi...
>>575555710Sparkemonium
>>575560193
>>575554848So did the drama still happen ? Any updates since then ?
>>575560027nta but reposting this: >>575372059
>>575560161because not all banners are equal and your REALLY long-term average doesn't fucking matter when I want a particular student and not whoever comes in the futuregetting fucking tired of you apes acting like people want to roll on every banner that shows up
>>575560213So, in the end, all of the outrage are because of speculations.
>>575560034why are you evaluating a tradeoff element in isolation like if you're purely comparing a existence vs non-existence of a tradeoff cost then no shit it's better for the tradeoff cost to not exist
>one single jew is all it takes to ruin everything.why is it so familiar?
>>575560250WE LOVE GOOK AKO HEREMAKE MORE
>>575560027>he thinks there's roll historyyou don't even play the game
>>575560278Why is she sucking gogurt?
>>575560207No, it's better. Not doing that is like saying you can't use sparks on dupes.
[Ground Breaking News] Ideolo has seemingly forgib Nexon
>>575560278Yeah. Um. I don't think you can post that.
>>575560279The announcement is the one behind the speculations. You don't just uproot the whole thing and say "read the details in the game after 3 days". You should give the details right there and now.
>>575560250i do this >>575560278 to the gooks that watch us
>>575560279I mean this is entirely on Nexon for not being specific and clarifying. No shit people are going to doompost when we don't know how shit works. They should have gone through it VERY thoroughly on Steam. Why the fuck did they not explain this on Stream?
>>575560184>click the first profile>spic larping as a JapWhy are these "people" like this?
>>575560307>why are you evaluating the thing that makes this system different from the previous one?Maybe because it's objectively worse? Before, the points didn't reset. Now they do. How does that benefit me as a player?
>>575560250>>575560053hmmmm
>>575560250YOU FUCKING RETARDS I TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN
>>575560273>long-term average doesn't fucking matter when I want a particular student and not whoever comes in the future>roll on every bannerwtf are you talking about? Do you have any idea what the new system actually is?
>>575560250>>575560326YES MAKE MOREOR WE'LL FIND YOU
>>575560053thats my secret, im always happy
>>575560278fucking clanker I need to work
>>575559630I'm not going to lose 50/50I am Pity O'Toole
Hello KoreansWe love your gookakos
>>575560394damn you're retarded
they call it "pity" but what it really is is "looking down on you"
Making money with BA is the easiest thing everJust dont remove things, only add thingsOnly retards can mess this up
>>575560250Gooks, how does it feel that Blue Archive is Japanese culture
>>575560250hello KRbros! Thanks for the gookakos!
Gookako hijack
>>575560372Why would they explain it on Steam when there's no steam version for Japan, you retard.
>>575560273So it's better now retard.
>>575559956>>575559987This logic only holds up if you ignore the 40/80 free rolls and 50/50 at the 100 mark. Basically people who hate the change are retards.
>>575560250Hi Gooks. Make more GookAko pls
>>575560080More like once you got the student those points just sit there and tempt you inducing massive FOMO. "Come on, it's just 50 more rolls bro, you don't want to waste those points, you get a new student for cheap, roll, roll."With the new system once you get what you wanted your pity is gone so there's nothing tempting you to roll more unless you're a massive gambling addict in the first place. At worst you might finish the next milestone reward while still banking the pity for the next banner.
>>575560357@arona translate this
>>575560250I LIKE NORTH KOREA BETTERPRAISE TO GLORIOUS LEADER KIM JONG-UN
>>575560398MAKE GOOKREISA TOOTHIS IS THE ONLY ONE I HAVE YOU HEAR ME!?
If there's some korean bro reading this i just wanted to say it's your fault yellow jews
How are the comments in the stream? Any funny ones?
>>575560250LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THE HOLOCAUST DIDN'T FUCKING HAPPEN BUT IT SHOULD HAVE
>>575560494>50/50No one who plays a game with 50/50 defends this. It's absolutely trash. Keep licking that boot though.
Unreal people are arguing they want to spend more pyros under vague allusions of the new system "feeling bad"absolute retards everywheremathlets genuinely do hold back society
>>575560550>>575560550>>575560550
I'm angry that Nexon did this, not because it's a worse system (it's not) but because they failed to recognize that 99% of people on this planet are utterly retarded and don't know math. I want everyone who stays to kowtow and apologize to mathgods once they realize they've been getting way more 3* than usual.
Stop leaking bullshit and leak that shitty exec’s address instead
>5th post>Wow. Amy's breastsThey are just like us
>>575560250Have they seen this gem yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpuUpGqSPOA
/bag/ stands for Blue Archive Gookako
>>575560468I MEANT THE STREAM FUCK YOU NIGGER
>>575560554bit early innit
>>575560554this isn't the poe general
It's been three days, they're not going to back down. Better lube up and put your ass up for the BAC (BIG ARONA COCK).
>>575560554retard
>>575560559Can't wait until this new better system fucks you in the ass
>>575560554are you some manner of a fucking idiot
They're watching us right nowWhy are you calling them gooksI thought that's like korean version of Nigger
>>575560513lolwut? the pity system induces fomo precisely because the bullshit of (((building up pity))) makes you spend pulls on banners you'd have otherwise ignored
>>575560547Unreal people think Nexon is a friend who wants less of their money
>>575560575I mean they made it
>tfw unaffected by changes to the gacha system because I'm a secondaryGOD that never enabled gacha to begin with
>>575560641Niga means me in koreanGook means you in english
>>575560250Dear gooks we also are disappointed with Kim. Once our greatest ally now turncoat. A rat. A schemer. Dare I say one of "them".
>>575559393You got that retard gook good lmao
>>575560641that's exactly why. gooks did this
I hate mathlets so much.
>>575560053Who the fuck cares. It's fucking nothing. Leaked or not. Once the artbook is released it will get uploaded online anyway.
>>575560641ako (nigger) (gook) (affectionate)
>>575560546Case in point.
>>575560648Consider the amount of retards arguing so much about how important rolling based on vibes and emotions is I understand they will make a killing under the new system
>>575560513>FOMOIt's funny you mention that when they also just added 72 hour eleph pakejis that conveniently solve the problem they just created.
>>575559778I knew of it but I thought it would be some trash "oh poor sensei got to 190, here the last one is on me" type of shit. Who in their right mind would expect a 20% cashback
don't export them the gogurt you fucking idiots
>>575560559Not only do they not know math, but they also have the most boomer mentally ever, dismissing a new system that's clearly better entirely because of muh feelings and how attached I am to the previous 5 year old one
>>575560746why not.
안녕하세요 /4chan/이부키 컨셉아트 좀 유출해주세요자위를 해야 해감사합니다
>>575560720Show me the calculations that you have performed yourself
>>575560250HOPE KIM JONG UN FINISH HIS NUKES SOON AND WIPE KOREA PENINSULA
hey gooks tell epid to do a collab with TrickcalI need Ashur student
>>575560768They're just like us fr fr
>>575560768
>>575560768Kimchi to you too
>>575560740Only whales buy those in the first place so it doesn't matter.
>>575560768CHING CHONG LING LONG TO YOU TOO
>>575560630I am literally unaffected because I always budget 24k for every student I roll for no matter what. Feels good being an intellectual who knows how to minimize risk.
i work at nexon, the shanhaijing kindergaki was a setup for swimsuit ibuki.
>>575558905>Rolling for ligma is generally a whale thing.What people are saying is that if you got both girls before 200, but are at 170 or 180, people can (and plenty if times do) make a decision, a CONSCIOUS decision, to just roll 30 or 20 more to finish the 200 for extra ligma since they had already saved and budgeted their rolla for 200 (meaning: they're not going above what they planned on rolling but are getting more out of it IF they want to)You DON'T have this option anymore, because it gave players way too much agency and control and oh boy Nexon didn't like that
The old system is better. The pityshit can't beat my usual luckchad scenario of getting the BlueFes student 4 times in 200 rolls then getting an extra copy from the spark. It only benefits "average" lucklets. You have to rely on expected average outcomes over large sample sizes. Not me.
>>575560802
>>575560695post the real picture at least
>>575560768Gumdingy.
>>575560768Have funDrink water
>>575560746
>>575560791*tell epid to do a collab with BA my bad
>>575560768>이부키 컨셉아트 좀 유출해주세요>자위를 해야 해holy fuck
>>575560768Stop larping as koreans
These leaks will unironically kill the game
>>575560749I want you to apologize to the chinks. They made it so they give 40 instead of 10 free rolls!
>>575560239Yeah but the "progress" unique to the new system only intervenes in the 100 or 200th roll. 198/200 rolls are literally the same as the 198/200 rolls in the previous system. the user might change its interruption behavior based on the results but that's a subjective matter
>>575560892GOOD
>>575560820How retarded are you? It's literally the other way around. Nexon created a problem, and according to you only whales can solve that problem (by spending money). So that leaves you with a problem you didn't have before and no solution.
>>575560853thanks bro couldn't find it that quickly
>gooks are hereNo... NO I CAN'T... MY FINGERS...IT'S PINCHING ON ITS OWN
>>575560768Isn't it illegal in your country to ask for porn?
>>575560768Ummm...Konnichiwa?
>>575560853ok that's good
>>575560896KEKAROO
ILOVEKIMCHI
>>575560768Go ask other place retard, it is not from here.
>>575560880I say that
GOOD NEWS THEY WILL IMPLEMENT NEW GACHA SYSTEM IN GLOBAL SERVER NEXT WEEKUPDOOT ME
>>575560768good morning Korean friend
>>575560892I hate to say it but maybe it's time to close the book.
>>575560835Under the new system, you get bluefes student 4 times in 160 paid rolls
>>575560768Ohio
I am sorry I did this. I made a wish on a monkey's paw I found and now I think the gacha change is because of that.I am only announcing this now because I have been otherwise engaged in marathon lovemaking with my now real studentwife gf.
>>575560923I know you don't play the game but we have other ways to upgrade characters besides rolling for dupes or buying them.
>>575560989Uptooted!
Schale going on Pregnancy Strikes with as many students as possible. If all students in Kivotos are pregnant, all happenings come to a standstill.
>>575560991this is brutal
>>575560989gookakoNO.jpg
>>575560740You barely ever finished a spark just for more eleph and you will literally get more ligma now from the new system.
>>575559075Yes everyone with a brain knows that those rewards are just goynip
>>575560989How do I upvote on this website
>I guess Kaede's original name was Kurumi.No, my dear gook. That's probably scrapped hyakki student Mikuru. She's mentioned by Kaede in the group story.
The new system is bad because whales can’t farm crafting stones to farm gifts to bond 100 a newly released student on day one anymoreBro think of the whales bro
>2 hour threadthe stream was 2 days agoParty's over, go back
>>575560989God I hope so
>>575560892the revenue tanking to near zero is the only thing that could cause them to revert the gacha change
Its year 5 of the game. Where the FUCK is the pregnancy update.
>>575560991anon!
totalmathleteradication
>>575560902>>575560547You are spending more on pyros in the long run in the new system, because with the new system you are losing every single pyro you roll and you don't hit a pickup SSR.With the old system, every pyro spent acumulates there slowly vs. being entirely gone in the new.The only way math can "prove" a new system is better is by pretending (falsely) that spark points and pity count are the same. But they are not.
>>575560831>it gave players way too much agency and controlTHISthis is the main reason for the change, honestly you can probably benefit from the new system more but everyone should be aware how predatory and deceptive it is
>>575561057Good news, you can buy a lot of keystones with pyros now.
the main reason we got this new system is because Kim's dick is tiny and he needs to bully others to feel better about himself. remember that /bag/gots canonically have massive dicks
>>575561057They can buy them from the pyro shop now and ironically it'd probably be more efficient.
>>575560768niga kim jong un kim il sung chowayo!
>>575561197>>575561197 >>575561197
>>575559179>reliably lol lmaoyou're getting less elephs, either by rolling less because you won the 50/50 or by losing the extra eleph spike from the spark if you go to 200 but got her in the way thereIt's an obvious problem that is real simply because Nexon is selling you the solution >eleph+ligma pakeji announced the same stream
>>575561215And a cowabunga to you young lady.
>>575560768chowayo chowayo too
Anyone but gookako thread
>>575561270>>575561270>>575561270Non shitpost thread
>>575561204Nah, is it any coincidence that this update dropped the moment an event alluding to the JQ got translated? We all know EXACTLY who is responsible.
>>575561304gookakosis...
>>575561115>clones everywheremy genes aren't this weak
>>575561187The graphs are showing probability rolls spent to get two units. It's not tracking pity points or anything like that. If you are the type of player who plans their rolls and aims to get two students on a double banner then stop rolling, you will be able to roll on 25% more banners. This is an irrefutable fact.
>>575561319what the fuck is JQ
The troll thread even has the wrong thread number btw
>>575561304should've baked earlier, retard. you had 50 posts to do it
Only good thing about this system is that mathfags will cry hardest when they realize they fell for happy merchant's tricks.
>>575561187>you are losing every single pyro you roll and you don't hit a pickup SSRin your hypothetical you're conveniently assuming that surely, unique in the old system you would have rolled the PU somewhere along the linewhile you don't grant the same natural occurring leniency in the new systemBut let's steelman this consistently in both systems the user NEVER rolls a PUOld system: 200 1*/2* + 1 PU 3* (Spark)New system 199 1*/2* + 1 PU 3* (Pity)
>>575561304no
>>575561514And don't you know how to bake, retard, or is it too much for your SEAmonkey brain?
>>575559987This is slightly offset by the free pulls, the worst case of getting the rate up at 190 is only 150 of your own tickets. If you start building your pity on the second banner (190-290, 150-240), you get a second 50/50 at 240 which obviously isn't super worth it compared to the OG 200 pity with 75%. Not having both by 200 of your own pulls though is statistically less than losing the 75% roll of the old system now because you pulled more for free. The main issue is ligma over your chances of getting both. >>575560740This is the true issue with the new system. You're getting more students "for cheaper", in worst case scenarios you're spending less than the previous 200/400 spark brick. But you're also getting stiffed on dupes and prompted to just buy pakeji instead. You also don't have a safety net and are incentivized to chase the 130-170, 330-370 ranges after failing a 50/50.
>>575561838I'm not the one who baked, saar
Oh well, it's streetshitter hours so is expected the leddit subhumans plus the jeets from /vmg/ raiding us doing this because they're upset
>>575560250Yeah? Let them learn from the best.
>>575560768야 니거, 나 지금 부산에 네 집 근처에 있어. 다시 한번 생각해 봐라.
>>575560513>Come on, it's just 50 more rolls bro, you don't want to waste those points, you get a new student for cheap, roll, roll."That's... Not what happens...
With tons of gifted tickets it actually bumps the new rate A LOT, even at 2 girls/200 pulls it's now 76.8% new vs 75.5% oldSo I made a graph and the new system now has higher rate in EVERY SINGLE CASE. Average 9.1% higher across 0-400 pullsWe... own Nexon an apology? A big one?
>>575561304>deleteddid you get banned?
