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it’s over…
>>575369887SAG THREAD!!!
Pandy ended up not flopping
it's Aover...
Is this accurate >>575368424
>>575369887I need sag on my faceI need sag on my dihhI need sag rubbing all over my body
It was me, I did it
My precious desert rose.
>>575369887>we've been in total meltdown mode for like 7h alreadyI don't even care whether the gacha changes are good or bad.Fuck you Nexon for spoiling this day for me
Drama in the Blue Archive community!
Want and need an event where Hasumi and Satsuki become friends
>>575369887Okay, the saggers brought me back.
>>575370064That's only if recruitment points never expired under the old system
My Insidious In-LawNexon will burn
it's Midover
Akane Love!All hail Murokasa, my beloved megane maiden
I waited two weeks FOR THIS?
>>575370216chat is this true?
Wakamo
>>575370279We should have seen the writing on the wall when they announced there wouldn't be a live audience.
BA had a decent runno empires last foreverwitnessing the fall of the roman empire in real time rn
chat is this true?
I have to admit it at this point. Can’t deny it any longer. Iroha won. Pandemonium won. And Blue Archive won.
This is the body of a high schooler
>>575370302No this is an edge case that literally never happens.
>the old system is better cause I'm lucky and have never had to double sparkFuck you I have
Aren't these Gehenners a bit too vulgar and shameless?Where's their class?That's just embarrassing.
My canon wife Fuuka...
I'm quitting the game.No, I don't care if they areverse it, the game is just going to become worse from now on.
>>575370234
>>575370330we thought it was cuz they were cutting corners...well I guess in a way it's cuz of money
>>575370360This. When was the last time you got a student before 200? Why are we acting like this is normal?
>>575370376thisfuck luckniggers
Now that EoS is approaching, it means rape is finally over.I will no longer have my adult body threatened by girls much younger than me (especially Miyo)
>>575370302Trust the math. It's obviously a deepfake.
>>575369996Does Satsuki actually compete against Hasumi? Or does Hasumi mog her as a woman?
Is Miyo sex still in the game? I'll stay if yes.
>>575370348imagine the weight
>>575370376If youre luck is bad youre also going to fail the 50% so no difference
>>575370180you know, they could've just made that single change and everyone would be lining up to suck Kim's microdick
FUCK BLUEFUCK ARCHIVEFUCK PANDEMONIUM FUCK SUMMER
ONLY ONE GIRL CAN SAVE US FROM DOOM
>>575370136
>>575370348>the EOS update will be associated with thisidk if it's a good thing or a bad thing
>>575370376>thinking you still won't just always lose your 50/50s in this systemLucklets will never learn
>>575370376>the system where you need to double spark more often is better because I've had to double spark before
>>575370346>>575369769You fucking retards. You are far more likely to get 2 students in under 100 rolls than needing over 300 rolls.
>>575370216Someone get chatgpt to work out linearity of expectation for them again
>>575370124Same, but my day isn't ruined - even if it has a bitter aftertaste.After all this time arguing with him, I'm with Irohaschizo on this one. The reveals were so much better than I expected that this has been my favorite fes. 4 designs I love for students I like and one that's damn close is better than any other fes has done.Shame nexon had to piss in the pool with unwanted gacha changes but hopefully they're not as bad as they sound - hopefully the shitshow makes them shove enough in the compensation points that it works out.
>>575370348>>575370469I will carry that weight
>>575370386Top class succubi
coom in Nozoom.
>>575370510You're right.Release the playable Rinny
I had forgotten about Misuzu. Has she been relevant to anything in the Nip story so far?
Don't forget to do your TR-1 stage for the keystone daily while still preserving your AP hoard friends
>>575370462The only thing Fatsumi mogs is cake.
Rate the swimsuits
>>575370345yfw pandemonium flops because the changes in the gacha.I don't see it being a total disaster, but still will be affected specially considering Pandemonium isn't even THAT popular in first place.
>>575370410I'm not quitting the game, but I think School Uniform Akane will be my last roll. I will never roll after that.
I'm a sagaholic.
gooks awake yet? most japs took this new gacha change as nothingburger, global sorta imploding, what about gooks?
>>575370504this
>>575370601>Corrections BureauGod I want her to work with me...
>>575370475>>575370534>no diff if you get literal free 2x coinflip on your double spark
>>575370601She smuggled coffee for one of the thugs
it's Momover
>gacha market heavily depends on Japan>yen is rapidly entering meme currency territory of Argentinian peso and Turkish lira (banned on steam now)>but you can't increase the price or Takeshi will throw a temper tantrum that he has to experience inflation the rest of the planet experienced for many years>have to resort to jewish tricks that hurt consumers who pay actual money
>>575370549>Even the odds of pulling at 100 is just 0.06%Dear god
>>575370617They look stunningly gorgeous in that PV. Much less so in the game. Yostar pictures made a damn good ad.
>>575370376good job now your lack of luck will still have you drop a 400except you can't get some extra dupes by sparking on the of chance that you do get the rate up towards the end
>>575370593Devilish woman
>>575370654>most japs took this new gacha change as nothingburgerwhy are you lying
>>575370549Get these Democrat mail-in ballot results outta my face
yeah fuck this piece of shit of a game
But on the bright sideuhhUhhhhhI got nothing
>>575370601Maybe we'll see this cow during the gehenner volume but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Did someone summon my manwhore self
where is the magma anon? i want this to get pasted in there, the one on the left is pasted as is and the other was passed through a filter i made to convert lineart to PNG, paste whichever you think fits besthttps://litter.catbox.moe/urj43ralar553byt.png
Summer Hasumi 2 where it's exactly the same but she's noticeably fatter and it's clear her swimsuit no longer fits.
>>575370621I mean, obviously they're going to flop, I always knew that. Even got a king size bed for all of them to flop onto.>>575370617100/10, perfect.
ETA until the official response?
>>575370797Done ;)
>>575370567The gacha is overshadowing how awesome the PV was.
Feels like the only way this would be a good change is if were to cut down on other 3 stars on a Girl's banned to bump her chances to above 15%But removing the keystones is a too shitty choice to make to the point I am wondering What kind of fucking internal stat told them this would be a good change.
>>575370743well at least your studentwife wasn't associated with this shitfest...
>>575370824I love girls with boobs on the smaller side like this
Don't tolerate low quality pulls!Senseis' rights! More pyrox!
>>575370462They're similar proportionally, but Hasumi is a lot taller and therefore bigger overall
>>575370491but that's an objective improvement that objectively means less rolls, ask yourself why would nexon change the system in the first place and all the "math" analyzing it becomes meaningless because you already know the truth
Why does Nexon even need the money? It's a game with story a handful of times a year, isometric 3d in linear maps and no seiyus lol
>beforeGetting lucky is good>afterGetting lucky is bad>but muh mathMath shows it's worse too but your IQ is too low to understand
Where can I find the Miyo ASMR? I'm not paying for shit
>>575370767They must have something planned for her, right? Why tease her if you aren't going to have her be in anything?
Only a new asuna or hasumi will convince me to keep playing after this betrayal
>new system is objectively better and more consumer friendly>players hate itit's all because the dropping literacy rate innit
>>575370446bHimari, though it was deep.Yakumo and Takane came before 200, letting me spark Meru.Suzumi came around the 160s so I got mReisa.Kanoe came before 200 so I got Eri.Toki came early and Nagisa came at 200 on the dot so I sparked Chiaki for elephs.sNagisa came before 200 so I sparked sMika.sSeia came early enough that I got sHasumi.That's every banner I'd rolled on except the most recent fes students.Kei, Aris and bEimi all cost me a spark with no early rateup.Do you want me to go back another 6 months too? I have a good memory for this and a few screenshots.
>>575370840It's 5 AM there, so it'll be a few hours minimum.
other potentially awful changesVolume 1 RecapsScrimmage 2.0
>>575370867Apparently they're making a separate point system unrelated to the pity where you get currency by rolling and you can spend it for a 10-roll and upgrade mats. These points would expire between banners.
>>575370970execs want more money
>>575370180you can replicate that by only rolling in multiples of 200 which I and many here already did
>>575371020First the lack of media literacy and now this!
>>575370462Hasumi is taller so her tits are bigger but Satsuki wins in sag
I'm resetting your points
>>575370302It literally happened to me last banner
>>575370872I think we need a few more Iroha alts during the next few events
>>575371108There isn't always something worth claiming
>>575371078>Scrimmage 2.0More like JFD 2.0 since they're talking about allowing up to 5 teams and it having special conditions for each stage.
>>575371020People really don't fucking understand multimodal distribution for some reason. Two humps is too much for people when they come from one.
>>575345469>Calculate how many pulls I need to get 3 featured characters in a single banner.274.9 pulls with the old system, 270.2 pulls with the new systemalso I realized that a log plot of the PDF is not the best visualization so I switched to a linear plot of the CDFas you can see, new is much better for 1, mostly better for 2, and around the same (but slightly better) for 3
This is a bad roll now because I would still need to spend another 200 to guarantee S.Shunny instead of just 70.
>>575371020this is the gayest gookako post yet
>>575370864Holy FUCKKKK
>>575370617>Iroha7/10, it's alright. cute but there are better ones already in the game>Makoto6/10, I prefer Iroha's but it's fine as well>Chiaki5/10, actually ruined because of the top she's wearing with it. would be 7/10 without that>Satsuki3/10, honestly I just don't like it>Ibuki0/10. poor kid got fucked over really bad. how fucking hard was it to just give her a sukumizu?
>>5753706173/10
>>575371154You at least had elephs before. Now that's gone.Good thing they just added new pakejis for that!
Students that would defend the new system>Rio>Yuuka>Aris>Yakumo>Nagisa>Hina>SerikaStudents that would oppose the new system>Himari>Koyuki>Momoi>Minori>Mika>Makoto>Ayane
>>575370549The numbers only calculate the chances of getting the student!It doesn't take into account the value of the extra elephs, nor does take into account the value of the points you acumulate.
There are many ways to reach oblivion
>>575370567Maybe I'm fucked in the head or something, but I really can't get into mood to get excited about the new stuff. It's a shame because I REALLY love Satsuki's alt, Makoto's alt is great as well and it's surprising because I don't care about her that much. Other stuff is meh (imo) but I wasn't expecting much in the first place
>>575370159>hasumi, the strongest racist, being friends with a gehennoid(X) Doubt
>>575371313Hina would never
>>575371078>Tactical Challenge rework>you can only attack 3x a day now
Whats the point of playing this game anymore if its just gonna get shittier
>>575370124For real, I was actually excited for pandemonium fes and a potential gehenna vol. The announcements were good, /Sag/ and Eroha are sex tier, the rest I like as well. Then they nuked all of that excitement, just tossed it at us like a hot potato grenade. Now I'm restless and barely thinking about the new alts without thinking about how I'll need to change how I save and pull.
>>575371154with how stacked the rerun banners were getting that was the minority
>>575370617Iroha and Ibuki dont careMakoto looks okSatsuki is bit muchI do like Chiaki
>>575370617the fes students could've gotten better swimsuits tbdesu
>>575371321like oblivion gates?
BA seemed like an anomaly with its monetization, almost like all the shitty growth pakeji was just bait for nexon execs until they squinted and realized, “wait let’s actually squeeze our tendrils around this now” 6 years later
>>575371230Yeah this is the worst part of this. Getting lucky after 100 just feels worse now.
>>575371313This was Makoto's idea, and now she's doing that face because of the rioting
>>575371020If you fail the coinflip at 100, every roll from there until 200 is a black hole of pyro if you also want the other banner.
>>575371384Finally a babu edit, this is what I was asking for since the announcement. The hat really looks like a baby hat.
>>575371206>Log plotLog is almost never worth it
Ayame... Ayame would have let us roll for free...
And remember, the anime is getting a S2 next anni
>>575370617sex
>>575371168>More like JFD 2.0 since they're talking about allowing up to 5 teams and it having special conditions for each stage.Dividing your students up for JFD is already annoying, since you have to pick between having one good team and one dogshit team, or just two mediocre teams. Can't wait to spread my characters over five teams.
>>575370617>IbukiSEX/10>IrohaSEX/10>ChiakiSEX/10>Makotoretard/10>i dont know what the other one is calleddude saggers/10
>>575371384>>575371464Wait fuck, I see someone posted it just 2 minutes after I first asked for it. Sorry for not thanking you edit guy.
The new system gives a bit more eleph at 100, it evens outs at around 400. But you'll be losing eleph at the long run if you're trying to max out a character. This is purely on a single banner and without counting the 'extra' free pulls they say they'll be giving out.
>>575371367Character development.If there's a gehenner to make friends with it's her, she's such a sweetie she probably wouldn't even catch on to the fact that she's being racist-ed against. They'd get into some hijinks, Hasumi would be annoyed with her, but she'd end up being impressed with Sats' tenacity and unwillingness to give up. Then Satsuki offers to hypnotize Hasumi into following a diet.Then Sensei shows up and they smush their tits together against his dick and he cums everywhere and they give him slob jobs and shit it's fucking wild
>>575370617>Iroha5/10 i don't like it, it's kinda boring, lewd and tame at the same time, a disaster>Makoto7/10 it's fine, a bit boring>Chiaki8/10 super cute, my favorite here>Satsuki9/10 i dont like her nor her body but it's perfect for what she is>Ibuki2/10 i hate self censoring cowards
>>575371378wait... WHAT?!
>>575371270>sukumizuNo matter how hard you try no one is going to use that term. Don't be like those retards who use "kawaii" in conversation
I am new player last fes I got all 4 fes students in 400 pulls. How much fucked am I next fes ?
Rather have 3 new anime seasons than this crap
>>575370617Chiaki is very underrated.
>>575371384Is it odd that I pretty much only care about 100% rolling my favorites, and dickroll leftovers? Right now I can easily just save and get all of Pandemonium.
>>575371020being able to use sparks instead of praying to rng is much better
>>575371384>that pic relFuck you guys, I think I spent too much time here because that actually made me bricked up
Doomsday clock in about 1-3 hours
>>575371630>without counting the 'extra' free pulls they say they'll be giving outMostly because we don't even know how many of those there are or what they can even be used on. Those weren't important details that needed to be revealed during this controversial system change.
Jumby my beloved...
>>575371206>mostly better for 2only post 300 bro, I regularly gambled on pic related coming thru and it never had disappointed me, now those days are over...
>>575371197Do you really expect me to believe:>they changed the gacha system out of the blue, despite basically no player complaints about it, to a new system that is more player-friendly and will make them less money>and this was such a priority for them that they never presented it that way in the stream, never said it was better, never provided any math to show that, nothing
>>575371670It will take an average of 360 pulls for 4 banners under the new system not counting the 0.1% off rate spook chance.
>>575371702what
>>575371384It was retarded to announce is during the stream but the change isn't that bad anon
>Look away for 5 minutes>new threadI cannot keep up
>>575371630>This is purely on a single banner and without counting the 'extra' free pulls they say they'll be giving out.The extra free pulls will be a 10 pull ticket every 400 pulls or so
>>575371670Just win 4 coin flips and it's the same
>>575371719are the koreans not awake during the the stream? Am I fucking crazy?
>>575371313Yuuka defends the system, then rolls, gets shit rolls, and curses the system under her breath. Momoi mocks her for singing praises of the system before. Yuuka says "just because I got unlucky this time doesn't mean the system isn't superior." Then Momoi points out that with the old system, at this point she could have had both pick-ups already and she snaps
The S.Ibuki l2d is sexy as fuck
>>575371364The Iroha one is growing on me and I like Ibuki's, even if it's kinda predictably safe.Chiaki's I think looks really nice without that dumb netting thing on, but she's also the one I'm most apathetic about - I just hope she gets some more characterisation since she's currently just another genki girl in a sea of better genki girls.Can't blame some people being bummed out over the gacha being needlessly fucked with but none of the prior swimsuit art did anything for me so I was bracing for my favorite club to get alts that made me feel nothing.Instead I got the jackpot - shame it obviously isn't striking the note for everyone and / or the gacha shit is overshadowing it.
>>575371494>All the changes were done to get more money to fund the shitty anime
youtube.com/watch?v=YVUCoEEWP1AThis is my favourite animated PV. I think I like it more than some of the non-animated anniversary PVs even. It's perfect.
>>575371702
>>575371630>But you'll be losing eleph at the long run if you're trying to max out a character.oh yeah whales do that don't theywell it's none of my business lol4 stars for lobby sluts, 5 stars UW 1* for supports, UW 2* for mid attackers and UB 3* for human rights is enough for me
They WILL revert the changes to the gacha system. The only question is whether they’ll announce it in a few hours or tomorrow.
>>575371630>The new system gives a bit more eleph at 100,Sorry if I'm mistaken, but didn't they said that they also removed the extra elephs for the firs time you get the student?
>>575371864They should definitely do a story about this incident once it all blows over
Okay i'm officially too dumb to understand this shit. And i see both opinions that it's good and that it's bad. So which is it?
>>575371719Some poor guy from the crisis communication team has been reading internet comments overnight
>>575371772You just got lucky. Things will average out over a long period of time and with 10s of thousands of rolls.
>>575371020Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>575371967Yeah it just pure erotica. Plus the cool Makoto face towards the end.10/10
>>575370446(nta) last time? Rena at 150, which means I was able to spark cKotama, which would be impossible after the changebefore that? let me check the banners that ran quickly... (from most recent to least recent)>pKoyuki at 90, pNoa at 140, spark nyFuuka>bYuzu at 80 (aEimi at spark)>nyutsuki at 30>aHimari at whatever, don't remember, sparked aRio>tMari at 60>dMitcher (dTsukuyo at spark)>iMari (iWappi at spark)>Takane + Meru + Yakumo (all before 200)>Mine (my what?) at 40>mReisa at whatever and mSuzumi spark>Miyo, Satsuki, then Fuyu spark>got lucky on sTrinity fest but don't remember the numbers>sHasumi at 170 then sSeia sparketc, I can go on for a while. the only time I didn't either get 2 students in 200 or just one student early and bailed (like nyutsuki or tMari) was on the maids banners where I got shafted, but I got lucky on the rest. my results would have been significantly worse under the new system
>SatsukiMy dingaling rose a lil
>>575371998Well it's only /bag/ that is divided at all. Everywhere else is unanimously pissed off.
>pandemonium-fes killed the gameMAKOOOOOOOTOOOOOOOOOOO
>>575371998Frankly it's somewhere in the middle
>>575371990I keep waiting for someone to eventually post a 2 fingered aru so I can save it but it never happens
>>575371998just pick a side and defend it till your last breath, doesn't really matter which side you pick because we can't change it anyway
Can the Koyuki hacker do it again?
The mole on Satsuki’s tit is way more hypnotizing than any pendulum
>>575371998Try it for yourself and you'll see.
>>575371998Good in some ways, bad in others
>>575371998It’s not that bad and can also be better in some ways but it’d probably be best to just not change anything with it
I want the nigger who suggested this change castrated.
THE SEIA IS DOOMI REPEAT, THE SEIA IS DOOM
>>575371998You have to be giga naive retard to think any gacha company would change their monetization system five years into the game's life to make it easier for the consumer.
>>575371772yeah focus on that tiny spot where it's below and completely ignore the huge amount it's above before and after that
Man, normally I can't stop thinking about how I would hav loved this anni if Nexon cold have kept their Jewishness in line. Finally, Summer Pandemonium! Finally, Gehenna Volume! All ruined because Nexon just had to fuck with their gacha system. If it wasn't broke, Why change it???? Now, it's all anyone is even discussing. Fucking hell, I am sad.
>>575371313>Students that would oppose the new system>>HimariShe likes to act like a dumdum sometimes but you need to give her a good reason to>>KoyukiYes but only to piss off Yuuka. She doesn't actually care otherwise.
>>575371648I didn't ask
I'll hit the sack in couple of hours and when I wake up I better see thousands of gooks standing in front of the Nexon HQ or wherever the team works
After skimming through the threads, I know "we" are outraged but it's been hours and I'm disappointed there were barely any Makotosex posts.This was a great outcome for her swimsuit. I love ponytails and the dark nail polish and the outfit itself is very erotic. Her L2D seems like it's going to be pretty high tier too.
>>575372121This is such a good post.
>>575371998Why would Nexon make the gacha more generous?
>>575372207Mr. Electric send him to the penis explosion chamber and have his penis exploded
>old gachaJust luckmaxx lmao>new gachaJust luckmaxx lmaoIt's not Nexon's fault you're a lucklet or worse, f2p/non-wealthy p2p meta chaser
>>575372207That's very antisemitic of you anon
Thoughts on Satsuki's part in the PV?
>>575372252It really sucks that Gehenna's big moment was overshadowed like this. Truly a cursed school.
>>575372252Her acting bashful is gonna be super cute
>>575371998It's obviously bad or they would not have made the change.
>>575371743>Those weren't important details that needed to be revealed during this controversial system change.An optimistic man would hope that's because they'll dial it up based on how poorly this is going over.
>>575370617>Chiaki7.5/10 a bit plain but does the job and probably the most realistic out of the bunch >Makoto7/10 it's fine but a little too much going on>Satsuki8/10, 9/10 if you're into saggers>Ibuki3/10 at least it doesn't cover her crotch like, it's fine in a vacuum, I don't need a microbikini, but I just really hate gacha inventing some retarded burka-like contraptions for lolis where real life child swimsuits look NOTHING like that go to a beach tomorrow you won't see a single little girl wearing this garbage wish we got a school swimsuit or a sundress instead>Iroha7.5/10, it's cute enough but not really erotic outside of the L2D and the garter
>>575371967It's so good man, although I feel like the 2 Chiaki poses have like 60 fps vs the 20 fps of the rest of the video
>>575371990Aru… Slipping off…
Here guys let me help you understand the situation, using the free 100 pulls you'll get on the banners before fes as an example.New:>do the 100 free pulls on one banner>win the coinflip>now you have to do 200 more pulls for the other banner if you don't win another coinflip>lose the coinflip>now you have to go to 200 for pity, and then 200 more for the other bannerOld:>do the 100 free pulls on one banner>if you don't get who you wanted, go to 200 and spark>if you did, go to 200 and spark the other
>>575372252Have you seen the Makoto ad? It's got a little bit of the memolobby animation and she's blushing hard. My heart skipped a beat.
>>575372213Why did they add the archive banner and the wakamo/shoshino/mika banner this year then to make it harder on the players?
>>575372335I have rights. Those rights exist when I'm asleep too.
>got drunk and instead of appreciating the new content the gacha changes live rent free in my headwhy am I like this
Makoto with your dick in her mouth and Satsuki jerking it til you bust inside
>>575372390Just like how the archive banner was bad right
>Irohafes>but also accompanied by the worst gameplay additions possible as Blue Archive turns into HoyoslopKek>>575372252Meh. Did you notice the artist just copy and pasted over Kikyou's belly and grafted it onto Makoto?
>>575371772With the 50/50 roll att 100, you're basically at the same luck point as if you went to 200 luck wise. A strategy going forward could be to go to 200 total rolls if you get the first student at or before 100 rolls. If you don't get the second student, at least the points carry over.
>>575372048>Things will average outIT NO LONGER WOULD BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WAS CHANGEDalso I did had to spark before (just never on a banner in which I wanted both luckily enough) but I just cut my loses at 200 unlike the new system designed for gambling anxiety
>>575372048Fuck your "long period". The amount of worthwhile banners per year can be counted on single hand so effect will be miniscule. Not to mention, FES is massively fucked because the probability gets better only later.
>>575372294damn I fuck this daily btw
How does this even count as clothing?
>All the math shows the new system is better with lower pulls>The unluckiest people who take their outlier final pulls as evident that it shouldn't be changedNew Coke all over again. Nobody cares about data nor that you probably have pulled targets in 10-100 far more than you have 100-200.
>>575372232Koyuki hates RNG and she knows she'll lose every coinflip
>>575371998it's outright bad for this game in particularno one rolls a spark expecting to get 1 girl you always roll for the both of them
>>575371806you also don't miss out on anything, it's all the same talking points until people get tired from being angry for 10 hours straight and raiding shitposters get bored and fuck off to the holes they've crawled out of.
>>575372210>Mr President, another Seia has hit the suicide forest
>>575372412Why are you ignoring the chance of getting someone without the coinflip in the first scenario?
>>575371998literally the only people who claim it's good are retarded shitposters on /bag/go look anywhere else
>open Reddit>this is the top postkek
>>575372335breasts scare me
You can't tell this handshake in agreement is fake as shit because:>Makoto's stare and grin is completely forced>Not only Hina's eyes are glowing too bright but so are her horns, meaning she's super tense about either this scenario or something else entirely.
>>575370991japaneseasmr or asmr one (have to change your locale to a chinese one using an extension for the latterGive it a day or two for somebody to upload 'em though
>>575372252It's my favorite swimsuit design in the game and I had zero hope after how much I hated the old promo art swimsuit.I'm too happy to care about the gacha changes.It just bounces off me.I'm sure I'll get to vent plenty of hate when I lose all my 5/50s picking up every sPandemonium girl though, don't worry.
What's Chise's opinion of this shitshow?
>>575372516I still don't understand how this outfit works.
>>575370617>ChiakiIt's okay. Kind of boring.>MakotoDoesn't really suit her. Also she has some bobblehead going on and they made her tits too big.>SatsukiIt's just Hasumi's swimsuit again but red. Pretty boring.>IbukiWay too safe.>IrohaIt's nice but also kind of boring.
>>575372583I thought it was a flashback
>>575372480>if you went to 200 luck wiseas if you went to 200 rolls without the 50/50.
>>575372452I NEED TO GO TO ANIME WORLD SO FUCKING BADLYI NEED ANIME GIRL SEXFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK I FUCKING HATE BEING ALIVE HERE
>>575372550>some gehenna youtuber films her body>later on makes a half assed youtuber apology video
>swedes joins nexon exec>kills the game without any effortAre swedes the kikes of europe?
>>575372583Makoto looks like completely dead
>>575371998Flip a coin twice and see if you win both times. If you did you're better off, if you got one wrong you're worse off. Keep doing it and see how happy you are. That's about what you can expect.
>>575370446>When was the last time you got a student before 2005 days ago motherfucker>hurrrrr durrr getting a rate up at the 100s never le happensI've lost count of how many times it happened to me
>>575372335It's a feast for sag lovers (me)
>Call heads or tails on a quarter 10 times.>Only get it right once.I'm done for bros, the coin flip hates me.
>>575372207you will enrage the merchant guild anon
This is worst than the loli dolls ban in chinkland
>>575372606>it's my favorite swimsuit design in the gameyou have a shower curtain fetish?to each their own, I guess
>>575372213Except that's literally happened multiple times. The reason BA even has a 200 roll->pity system to begin with is because cygames has done literally that several times over.
>>575371998Is shit.When something is a direct imrpovement you don't need to explain or justify anything, is better and everyone accepts it.>Spark costs 200 instead of 300Everyone happy. An obvious improvement. Good thing.People needs to pull out graphics, explain how math works, take into consideration a shitload of factors and hypothetical scenarios...Is shit
>>575372539>New Coke all over again.So it is objectively worse in practically then?
>gehenna event so dogshit it killed BAlule
WHAT WERE THE PITY CHANGES BROS AND IS IT BAD
I predict epic chimp out
>>575370617Makoto 10/10Satsuki 10/10Ibuki 7/10Iroha 8/10Chiaki 4/10, would be 7/10+ if the jacket thing was gone or a cardigan
>>575370617ibuki is a 10/10. lolis with frilly pink swimsuits designed for elementary kids is the best
Mika warned us of Gehenna. No one listened...
>>575372252Earlier this week I was making jokes about gehenna fes flopping, but man, I couldn't have predicted this.Not a big gehenna fan, but I'm genuinely sorry how your special moment was stolen like that
>>575372742Doesn't count
>>575371206The worst part about this change is that it clearly isn't better. This is not a "generous" change that increases your chances of getting the banner at 100 pulls. Now, if you have good luck, it'll be the same as before, but if you have bad luck, you'll get even more fucked.
The new system is so bad people are talking aboutthe way pity behavesorthe eleph changesorthe keystone changesNever the three at the same time. Really wtf is this change??
>>575372252The L2D showing that her dumdum brain is finally catching up to her having a crush is peakHer nail polish is also pure sex 10/10 would suck
>>575372207he's probably already circumcised
>>575370617i liked them all, everyone mad about ibuki not being erotic enough watches u12 gravure, i have no proofs about that statement but i don't have doubts eithersagsuki is truly the best of the bunch tho
EOS for sure this time!!!
>>575372583I asked Mimori what they were thinking during this, and after some hesitation she told me their exact thoughts:>This nigger...>This faggot...
>>575372790but that's steam not epic
>>575372790hey, that's me
Your new pity system is better than the old one shut the fuck up niggers
>>575370617Chiaki and Satsuki 10/10Iroha and Makoto 8/10Ibuki 6/10
>>575372790>swede hate is universalyou love to see it
>>575371465lower number on one axis doesn't always mean a semilog, retard-kun
>>575372772Coke by all measures showed that the new recipe was better tasting than the old in all of their metrics and blind tastings. Even though the math says the new system is flatly better, people like the old system
>>575372718They got other things to worry about
>>575372552Because the entire advantage of the old system is getting lucky at least once before 200. On the new system, getting lucky before 100 is slightly better than before, and after 100 is a lot worse.In the end, the new system means there will be a lot more double sparks on average.
Which of these swimsuits are better than the ones we have right now?Also, the Satsuki one being Makoto's current one is kinda funny
>>575372335I have an erection and I will now ask Satsuki to relieve me no matter what
Every pull after a lost coinflip will be miserable. Why would anybody think that a system that makes people regret spending their money is good?
>>575372838>Not a big gehenna fan, but I'm genuinely sorry how your special moment was stolen like thatDon't be. I'm happy - this fes has been beyond my wildest hopes, I pity the people that have had a straight up negative-fes between their apathy to Pandemonium and their anger at the gacha changes.
>>575371998it's good for goldfish and bad for whales
I still don't understand the changes and I probably won't until I actually use the new gacha
Nexon shuts down SEA servers>BA loses $10k from their monthly revenue>SEAtrannies everywhere having a melty and commit mass suicides>total indonesian population drops by 40%>rapes of monitor lizards and prostitution of orangutans drops to near zero>BA cunnyposting reduced by 99% everywhere>global BA fanbase slowly notice the big titty students in the game and realize theyre pretty good>they start waifufagging those instead>BA then becomes known as a normal big tiddie harem gacha game like Nikke and Azur Lane instead of that pedo game only played by pedophiles from Southeast Asiado it John Nexon
>>575372539If you have to pull out a chart to convince people is better then means is not.
Look at Steam reviews, it's already down to 64% mixed recent reviews
>>575372918why would you care, you don't even play the game. go back to what ever troonshit general you came from
>youtube stream's comments are all about the gacha changesLmao
>>575372997Except the charts prove you wrong
>>575372918>the new goy scam system is better b-because I said so ok?good cattle
>>575372224>yeah focus on that tiny spot where it's belowthat "tiny spot" is one in which you can reliably and consistently achieve and plan around it, there were a lot of banners in which I decided even before rolling to only get the second student if I get the first one before a spark, with this tiny bit of discipline you can basically live in that "tiny spot" and efficiently budget your pyros months in advance, now it is ALL a crapshoot
>>575372335I had to turn the stream off, full stop no jokes
>>575372419eh? I must have missed it. Where?I noticed it in this pic (I posted the lowres earlier by accident)
>>575373000As shitty as the ones we got are, these are even worse.
>>575373078Played longer than you faggot cope>>575373095Oy vey stop changing my shitty spark system
>>575373000None. Satsuki's is a sidegrade at best.Makoto and Chiaki's are bad.Iroha and Ibuki's are too similar - I wouldn't have hated the Ibuki one but it'd be a sidegrade.
>>575372264>What is a loss leader
>>575372440So they can no longer spook you and you have to pay to get them?
>>575371998it's good if you're not a seanig
lemme get this straight as someone who doesn't play the game.- old pity system allows you to get a featured character of a special banner (of you choice ?) for every 200 pulls you do. Regardless of what was pulled before.- newpity system allows you to get a guarented max rarity character, that character being a coin toss between a regular character (most likely launch day old dogshit) and a random featured character every banner every (around) 100, however that pity count goes back to 0 everytime you get a featured character from a banner.the gacha system of this game is gonna get kneeckaped to oblivion, the new system seems only favorable if you are a lucklet with litteraly nothing.
I got what I wanted and I couldn't be happier. Nap time.
>>575371805I'm objectively worse off unless I buy pakeji and roll 300+ on every banner where I want both. And if I buy pakeji, it's worse value for ligma unless I buy the new ligma pakeji too. Making this change especially during fes was just beyond retarded.>>575371682I roll for meta, I generally like the meta students anyways so it's not like I'm bricking my favorites, and dickroll with leftovers. All permas are off the table now, dickroll or not. Depending on my luck, I'll probably have to skip a 1 out of 2 limited.
>>575373000everyone got a good swimsuit except Ibuki that got a fucknig dress.
>>575372412It's more nuanced than this. Since the pity points from the free 100 pulls will carry over to the Fes banner on Ausgust 5th, you can:>do 99 free pulls on the banners this week>pray you don't get lucky pull the PU on any of them (to avoid your points getting reset to 0)Now you start the Fes week with 99 points.(Stop at 99 to avoid accidentally winning the coinflip on the 100th pull and resetting your points.)
can we just ban this >>575370446 kind of disingenuous bastards this week pls?
>>575372790>swedish ruining everythingThis has been going on for 300 years desu
>>575372918I'd play your game if the hebes were actually underage, dropped that shit fast after that "I'm actually an adult" shit happened several times
>>575373241>Since the pity points from the free 100 pulls will carry over to the Fes banner on Ausgust 5thSource?
>>575372786Nonomisex
>>575373149During the break7:01:13
>>575372918If you only plan to get a single character it's a bit better but it's worse for doublling up because the strength of the old was that you could finish on the second character if you got first early. Not to mention this is strictly speaking a worse 50/50 than hoyogames too.
>>575371998>I am impulsive and like to roll for new students without thinking much, if I like her I roll her. Don't really care about ligma or copies much, only new students.This system is better for you, you will frequently be able bail earlier and overall spend less pulls trying to get the new students.>I like planning and like to dedicate bulks of currency such as 1 spark or 2 to a banner or set of banners, if I get her close to spark I can nicely go for other or more copies. Dupes are great for ligmas and elephs and those are important to me as well.This new system is worse for you because you'll lose the ability to nab more copies if you get the rate up before spark.
>>575372213dunno which chinkshit you got traumatized from, but we literally just had two things that made the gacha easier for the players. don't move the goalpost
>>575373052>posts an almost flat kotlule
>>575372390they sometimes make good changes to bring in more players and prevent old ones from dropping it
Who won? Who lost?
>>575371774I believe the new system is better for exploiting retards, but if you aren't retarded and always roll with the worst case scenario in mind it's better in the long run.It's just backfiring on them because retards who fall for jewish tricks also don't understand math, but I guess if your entire business model is exploiting gambling addicts you deserve a fan base with all the paranoia and weirdness that comes with gambling addicts.
>>575372786Don't use my wife to shitpost, thanks.
>>575372972Statistically speaking, you were correct. But in the practical sense, New Coke was a worse drink than Coke Classic. This is because people don’t drink Coke through sipping or by itself, they drink it with food and they chug it down. The overly sweet flavor of New Coke was inferior to Coke Classic with food, AKA how most people drink Coke.
>>575373224Sounds like you're trying really hard to convince yourself lmao
>>575372969not just swede apparently
>>575373362Gehenna lost again
>>575373219More or less.>>575371035That's my roll history over the last 6ish months and I got the rateup before having to spark 7 times out of 10 if my memory serves.Tempted to keep going another 6 months but I'm pretty sure it'll be more of the same.
So, I missed on the rest of the stream yesterday after the safehorny swimsuits were revealed, now am hearing about a change in the spark system.How does it work? Did they explain anything else?
>>575372673Crazy how he didn't import a bunch of jeet immigrants into the dev team in true Swedish fashion
>>575373376Honestly. Fair play for the retards for being retarded.
>>575373089They don't actually, look at the part that refers to 200 pulls.
>>575373068We're truly in Red Archive now.
Hina wouldn't have ruined the game with her event, just saying
Are you guys going to remove your negative reviews when they revert the changes?
>>575373362Iroha flopped unironically
>>575372630It's basically a bra. Give how it tightly wrap the chest area, there should be a strap that goes to the back but it's well hidden by those sloshing fat deposit. It's a retarded overdesigned clothing for sure.
>>575373000I mean I hate this granny swimsuit on Ibuki but at least it's just a single layer instead of wearing a garbage bag on top of a regular swimsuit so at worst it's a sidegrade
>>575373362GokuBegita
>>575370617Makoto 10/10Satsuki 10/10Iroha 10/10Chiaki 10/10Ibuki 6/10
>>575373186post login count>>575373243just look at the replies, he got rekt already
>>575372480sounds a lot less consistent than before which is most likely what nexon wants in the first place, now getting a rate-up I kinda like at 100 has this weird bittersweet feeling of knowing it might have been used on the next banner, I suppose I can only roll now for students I HAVE to get, but that's kinda lame
>>575373000ibuki's
>>575373269China please understanding I don't like it that much either. We get really sexy cunny but they have to larp as "adults" to avoid Xi Jinping spanks.
>>575373486Only if the compensation is decent
>>575373362Mika was once again proven correct about Gehenners.
I'm enfattening Hasumi right now and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
The true pandemonium society rises
>>575372252I'm hopeful. I want them to give us a little more of how oblivious she is to her own feelings. Her being so upfront and directly telling sensei about how he makes her chest feel tight while also being oblivious to what she was actually admitting to was adorable.
>>575373453>safehornySagtsuki's are almost spilling out bro, her nipples would be easily be visible if they get erect
>>575373590They're not giving any compensation to globaltards lmao
>>575373285oh yeah it's definitely going to stay as one of my main lobbies
Black Suit realized he couldn't win in kivotos so he went out of it to destroy it.....
>>575373586Tight adult pussy...
>>575373486don't look at the country of the people spamming negative reviews
>>575373618I'm rotating her fat off in my mind.
>>575373481>>575373486thanks for reminding me to do this
>>575370617Chiaki and Satsuki's swimsuits are my favorite, I would like Iroha's if she didn't have the hat
>>575373276The section regarding 限定・呼び出しチャージ.The way it's worded, it seems pity points from limited banners carry over to future limited/anniversary banners.
This shit is New Coke all over again
>>575373524you first maybe a hand while you're at it so i can see that diabetes ridden obese brown paw you're typing these low iq nigger messages with
I've said it before, I'll say it againThe shitposters in this general are trinityfags
I honestly don't care if the new system is 5% better or whatever, I've been playing for 4 years and I don't want it to change
>>575371998It's less flexible and it will 100% FEEL worseThat's a thing not a lot of people are considering, which hey to be fair it's downright a feel thing so it isn't provable butThink about how many times you've been at 180 or 190 pulls, in a two banner limited week.And right on that laaaaaast fucking pull, you nab the girl. Just in time to dump the spark into the other banner.Moments like that will stop happening. Even from a gambling perspective, it feels worse.All I know is I'm glad this last fes went so well for me in global and I got all the girls. I can literally just not give a fuck about fes anymore.
>/bag/ is mad>Twitter is mad>Discord is mad>Reddit is mad>Steam is mad>Club chat is madThis change really brought everyone together
>>575373640Kinda crazy how jew hate is mainstream now but it still feels like nothing has changed or happened
It was a disastrous day for all Trinity pastry chefs when someone let Hasumi know that 1. her weight all goes into her tits and 2. Sensei enjoys huge racks
I’ll ride or die blue archive. Anyone deleting the game was always a poser and a larp and I’m glad they got filtered
JP starting to doom about the new enhancement system as well. /pcrg/fags how bad is it?
>>575370617>Chiaki9/10>Makoto7.5/10>Sagtsuki7/10>Ibuki7.5/10>Iroha4/10
>>575373032Is not rocket science.Now points acumulate and if by the 200 roll you didn't get the student you wanted you can redeem it.If you get the student somewhere along the way you still have your points and can decide if roll a bit more for the other or not.With the new system you get a chance of getting the student at the 100th roll (50/50 chance) and a 100% chance of getting it at the 200th roll.If you get the student somewhere along the way you get nothing but the student.
>>575373565>sounds a lot less consistent than beforeThe exactly 200 rolls strategy, sure, it becomes worse. If you change to always keep two sparks, 48k, in the bank and only go for the two girls if you absolutely want both, then it's better. Whether this is acceptable is of course up to one's priorities.
>>575373018>Don't be. I'm happy - this fes has been beyond my wildest hopesWell, good for you then>I pity the people that have had a straight up negative-fes between their apathy to Pandemonium and their anger at the gacha changesI don't think most of the normal people here hate gehenna to that extent, I'm assuming most people weren't expecting much but there's gotta be at least one swimsuit they like. Not a fan of Chiaki's alt, it would look much better without that dumb net-thingy. Ibuki is whatever, people would bitch no matter what she would get, Iroha is kinda meh. I love her facial expression and hair, that's for sure, but the rest (and especially the hat) don't do it for me. Satsuki and Makoto are really nice, I'd say their swimsuits are one one my favorite
>/bag/ hasn't even begun to think about the implications this has for the 100 free rolls banner
>>575373756how do you know what discord is saying?
>>575373716I agree.
>>575372583The vignette and weird faces make me think this is an imaginary scene and the plot of the volume is the new girls planning to overthrow what they believe to be two evil co-conspirators running their school
>>575373491I find your knowledge of women's clothing suspicious. This is a Wizard only general, my friend.
>>575373618Jokes on you I'm giving her so much sexercise the calories are all getting burned
>>575373787I missed it in the stream, what even is this?
>>575373585Why lie? NTE doesn't have this problem.
YOU'RE GONNA ROLL MAKOTO AND YOU'RE GONNA LIKE IT
Why do you play this game?As a returning casual player that decided to give it a second try with the steam release I only see this game as a visual novel with cute and funny cunnies and absolutely BUILT titty monsters snowbunnies. All these raids, bosses, challenges and whatever else are such noise.Now that I managed to get the green twins, can bond and finaly fap to their porn I lost all motivation to play it on a daily basis since there's no cuties coming soon.
>>575373486They won't be reverted. JP does what they are told.
>>575373737Sounds like someone's mad that his favorite school is now associated with the worst change in Blue Archive's history lmao
>>575372673>Are swedes the kikes of europe?no that title belongs to poles
>>575373770Those fellas will probably get banned but yeah it's interesting.
This might be an adult.
>>575373770Because they simply have too much control after decades for anything to change. Who do you think puppets the movements that now hates them even?
>>575372852if you have good luck you'll be much better offit literally does increase your chance of getting it at 100-199 pulls, in the old system there's no increase in chance until 200
>>575373052>BA then becomes known as a normalfag big tiddie harem gacha game like Nikke and Azur LaneThats why they barely get any art to begin with, nothing but AI slop to boot. The issue with hags is that once you have seen one of them you have seen them all, they are forgettable at best. Its a market thats bloated to oblivion yet remain a relatively safe investment because the lowest common denominator among SEAggers would remain, exactly like the current state of Azur Lane.AL got slopified and then everyone forgot about it
>>575372583It could be set in the past, but yes the fact that Hina's horns glow might be an indicator of conflict
If the gacha changes are good, why do they have to explain it and also put it in the end of the stream, which I remind you is the first non-live fes stream. Curious!
>>575373909As long as you read the story I don't care about the way you play.
>>575373825People aren't even considering the case where you only want one in which the system is much better not just slightly better.
*ahem*remember when you called Mika's swimsuit bad?
>>575369887made for sensei dick
>>575373640BASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASEDBASED
>>575373565>sounds a lot less consistent than before which is most likely what nexon wants in the first placeYou get it. They know F2P will not pay anything even if they are unlucky, but an unlucky whale is easy target. Average case looks better, but that's not what they care about, it's all digital goods it costs nothing. What Nexon wants to target are those few unlucky whales who have no limit. One terrible pull is far more valuable than any average math their PR department shits out.
>>575374003>it literally does increase your chance of getting it at 100-199 pullsblud is just saying anything
>>575374024I didn't. It's an angelic swimsuit for an angel. Gehenna's should be more demonic that's for sure.
>>575374024I kneel.
I'd just like to say that I am NOT concerned at all, and I will keep sucking Nexon/Yostar dick and balls as much as they need sucking and I'll even buy MORE pakeji packages to make up for our lost /bag/ brethren who DID quit the game because of the new changes, BUT...I must admit...I am a BIT worried about the future of the game. Just a TINY little bit. Anyone else feel me?
>>575373905Perfect World and Hotta aren't ran by card-carrying Communist Party members. The same cannot be said for Mihoyo.
>>575373828You're responding to the Irohafag, bro. He would celebrate this game even if Nexon shut down everything but gave us an Iroha alt on the way out.
>>575374024I'M SORRY
>>575369887>the only good thing from the stream
>>575373667>sags arent the biggest known safehorny trope out therecome on now
i clocked out when they announced the changes to the gacha and the new gehenna volumehow many threads did i miss?
課金だ!課金だ!課金だ!米帝!
they should make a western audience version of this where they make ai assets where all the students are old and brown and ugly with fat brownoid asses and change the script so all the academies are hbcus and give the gacha genshin rules and see if they pull people in who would have played if twitter hadnt told them not to
>>575373960I AM NOT A KIKE, YOU FUCKING NIGGER
>>575374024I said swimsuit Mika's momos were bad because there was no nakadashi on the beach beneath the moonlight
Hopes for the Gehenna chapter?
The people are not happy.
What is it with Ako's choice of clothing?
>>575374024She got mogged by literally every other swimsuit in the event
>>575374143Yeah damn right that's more like it
>>575373868he probably means the official discord
>>575373960we're mexicans of Europe, get it rightyou're thinking of g*rmans
>>575373863then shit will truly hit the fan
Sex
>>575374065How does that make sense? A whale would roll regardless. They are the ones that benefit most from improved average rates since they will roll enough to get closer to the average quicker.
>>575374024She had to compete with sexy Seia and Nagi-chan
>>575374024I apologize, Mika-sama. I did not know what we had.
>>575374215She really, REALLY, wants sensei's dick.
>>575374024>Trinitroons in charge of history revisionism
>Pandemonium anni>Pandemonium aftermath Genius.
If liking huge boobs is reddit then when does the narwhal bacon fellow atheist
>>575374137I really don't care bro, I don't think even irohafag deserves what happened today. If he can find solace in whatever content we got today, then unironically, good for him. I really can't get into mood to celebrate
>>575373960Poles are the niggers of Europe, a title bestowed upon them for helping liberate Haiti and kill all of the white people there
>>575374024yeah now makoto took that place
I guess you could say that the situation has turn into a...Pandemonium
>>575374024>how do i make this about mika?
>>575374238made for sensei dick
>>575374357Delete this
Thread is moving so fast nobody will notice I am having homoerotic thoughts again
>>575373903This thing: https://x.com/i/status/2081355756046270475From AronaGPT:>This is an announcement for a new character progression system in Blue Archive called "Deep Thought Flowering" (深想開花), designed to further enhance student stats.>The system features three distinct node trees: "Deep Projection" (深層投影), "Sea of Memories" (記憶の海), and "Imaginary Fixed Point" (虚数の不動点).>Each tree contains 15 nodes, which can be unlocked using new training materials and "OOPArts" obtained from the "Virtual Aptitude Test" (仮想適性試験) content.
>>575374357I laughed (unfortunate)
>>575374330please I just fucked don't do this to me again so quick I have things to do
>>575374361BASED
>>575373640based
>>575374272>boring one pieceI sleep
>>575374383Many such cases
>>575373905part of the reason mihoyo blew up is because they're literally subsidizied by the CCP and they get black bagged for doing anything that makes china look bad. and cunny looks bad to normies so they hide it behind ambiguous ages
>>575373925this, JP is beyond castrated, back when the whole GRAC thing happened, they barely complained, it was mostly Koreans spilling into JP
>>575374287nah they lose out on elephs in the long run without the spark or just the free elephs you get from not redeeming. theres a reason why they're selling 3000 yen packages of elephs.
worst thing about sw*des is they don't believe in working hard and putting out content regularlysee: darktide
>>575374361Which one is me?
>>575373903powercreeplooks like aids
>>575374215Needy onahole that gets sulky if you don't use her daily
>>575373807>If you get the student somewhere along the way you get nothing but the student.you forgot to mention you also lose the pity accumulated until that point. it's as if you lost all your recruitment points when you got a rate-up with the current system, genuinely disgusting
>>575374361oi...
Are you actually gonna drop the game if this doesn't get reverted? Personally I do not care too much about the change itself but BA is worth playing only because of its community and all the fan content it gets.
>>575374401Why did sensei change his hairstyle?
Irohaschizo doomed us
>>575374361
>>575373241They said the pity carries between permament banners and that permanent and limited banners had different counts.But they never really said specifically that they carry between limited banners. We can assume that's the case because they said "limited has different counts"But is good to remember they didn't say "pity carries between limited", they said "pity carries between different permanent banners" and "limited banners have a different count".So, you rolling for makoto 99 times doesn't necesarily means you start fes with 99 points.We are asuming that's the case cause it would be ulterior shit otherwise. but then again, with the wording they only said>Pity carries over permanent banners>Limited banners have their own countWhich is not the same than: >Pity carries over permanent banners>Pity carries over limited bannersIt could perfectly be with that wording that pity does not carry between limited banners, or carry only partially or some other bullshit
>>575374204We finally get the backstory of how Hina and Makoto overthrew the Tyrant Emperor is my reasonable guess.My "come on do it faggot" hope is we find out Kasumi's exact roll in the previous regime and why she's deadly afraid of Hina.My "never ever" hope is Emperor shows up in person as the bad guy of the volume and she's a sexy hag like Kokuriko.
>>575374361I was expecting you to show up a lot sooner
>>575374357>my joke but betterI HATE IT
>>575373770>control 99% of the banks>control the most powerful military in the world>control all the media and propgandagee i wonder why its hard to organize an uprising against goldberg
>>575374401when did you ever stop
>>575374153Have you seen the kind of swimsuits hoyo games get?Overly designed one-piece swimsuits which look like garbage to the point the character's default outfit looks hotter, yeah those are safe horny.
stop replying to yourself with koharus
>>575374137I'm not Irohaschizo - Ibuki and Makoto are my bond 100s - Iroha is sat at 50, tied with Chiaki and below Satsuki.I just really like the Pandemonium swimsuits.
>>575373960Those are the British, Poles are the groids of Europe
>>575369887>>575369996Her soft voice is better gap moe than Kasumi's chainsmoker voice.
>>575374357https://youtu.be/IxOby9fQrpU
>>575374484They believe in paternal leave and 4 days/28hours work weeksCome the fuck on man the cunny is not gonna draw itself
>>575373787it was a p2w skill trees for units in princess connect
>>575373807>If you get the student somewhere along the way you still have your pointsYou don't. That's why people are mad.
>>575370446sparked a.Rio immediately after this, the new system is fucking trash
>>575374484I play Paradox games and these fuckers like to put out a bad patch then go on month-long vacations for their entire company several times a year without fixing anything
Kayoko is not going to beat the "classy prostitute" allegations with that swimsuit. jeez
>The monkey is going to shit up /bag/ again
>Holoslop kills BAIt's over.
>>575373925>>575374467Retards. Thousands of nips have already sent their complaints to Yostar. Even if they don’t revert the changes, they’ll have to improve the gacha system and give out compensation.
>>575374565Wrong in the first sentence alraedy. They said it carries between the same type of banners. Which means both types - permanent and limited.
>>575374023much is a bit of a stretch given you need to give a minimum of 100 rolls before any differences arise, but yeah getting a single character is better because it incentivizes rolling on multiple banners to get impulse rollers to become more reckless
>>575374692Teapartyfags are already doing a good job at it
>>575374692A... Boring 747!
>>575374204Cautiously optimistic. They have the setup for it, but all of the issues that come with writing Gehenna ( almost everyone is some form of violent retard gag character, Hina being in her own bubble with no way out, no steaks) are still there.
>>575374565It's funny you could use the 100 free rolls to lose the 50/50 and then carry the guarantee into bluefes. Finally a new answer to the 'can I use the 100 free rolls in bluefes' question
>>575374692You hear what I say, T? I said the monkey is going to shit up /bag/ again! Heh heh.
>>575374568Personally I'm fine with them leaving the thunder emperor business as unexplored lore, I'd rather see Makoto and Hina get character development in the present.
>>575374024I still maintain it should have had a different hair style, but everything else is good about her swimsuit. The butt crack being visible from behind is enough to make me ejaculate.
>>575374409>they're redoing the character progressionWait what happens to the previous stuff?Does that mean everyone's UE60's are gone?
>>575374272I just wanna slip my arms into the hip holes and feel her up from the inside
>>575374568>My "never ever" hope is Emperor shows up in person as the bad guy of the volume and she's a sexy hag like Kokuriko.She's only one or two years older than Hina
Over/under on our archive pity points disappearing too on Wednesday?From a design perspective, it would be really confusing to new players if archive recruitment had different pity rules than normal recruitment, so I could see them getting rid of it.
>>575374024I thought most people complaining about it were the 2-3 Mikatards present here(I am not counting the /trash/ tourists).It was a very small minority because it mostly affected them, unlike the rework
>>575374782This is extra shit like limit break
What a downgrade from last year
>>575373716About the Recruitment (Gacha) Renewal1. About "Recruitment Charge"There are two types of Recruitment Charge:Recruitment ChargeCounts every time you pull on a regular Pickup Recruitment banner.Limited Recruitment ChargeCounts every time you pull on a limited-time Pickup Recruitment or an anniversary limited Pickup Recruitment banner.Recruitment Charge and Limited Recruitment Charge are tracked separately.However, all banners of the same category running during the same event period share the same counter, including rerun pickup banners.ExampleSuppose the following banners are available at the same time:Regular Pickup A: 10 pullsRegular Pickup B: 12 pullsLimited Pickup C: 5 pullsLimited Pickup D: 15 pullsThe counters become:Recruitment Charge: 10 + 12 = 22Limited Recruitment Charge: 5 + 15 = 202. About Resetting Recruitment ChargeThe Recruitment Charge is not reset whenever a new pickup banner starts.Instead, it is reset only when you obtain the featured student from any banner of the same category.Additionally, if you obtain the featured student during a 10-pull, the Recruitment Charge resets at the exact pull where the featured student appears, and the counter immediately starts counting again from 0 for the remaining pulls in that multi.ExampleYou have accumulated 58 pulls without obtaining the featured student.Your Recruitment Charge is therefore 58.You then perform one 10-pull, and the featured student appears on the 3rd pull.What happens?The counter reaches 61 (58 + 3), then immediately resets to 0 because you obtained the featured student.The remaining 7 pulls in that 10-pull are counted on the new counter.Result: After the 10-pull finishes, your Recruitment Charge is 7.
>>575374565It's not about limited as in with limited students like both Seias but about time limited banners.
>>575374763KEK
>>575374826anything is a downgrade if you use sexy seia as the basis
>Lucklets SEETHINGJust improve your draws you idiots, stop drawing on 190 or 200
>>575374751There are lots of interesting characters in Gehenna that they could pair Hina with, I think the "bubble" she's in is totally self inflicted by the writers.
>>575294410Reisa cursed us all
>>575374782It's obviously additional to existing systems
>>575374437>>575374486>>575374514>>575374560Hello newfriends enjoy /bag/ culture
>>575374670The weight of the coin flip at 100 skews the averages in a binomial axis line distribution curve to cosine the parallel square roots. Solve for X.
>>575374763Holy based
>>575374469Hm... I wonder. Can you only get the student once with the 50/50 at 100 and guarantee at 200 or can you keep rolling? If you can get the student multiple times at 100/200, that would encourage gigawhales to keep rolling and the improved rates would benefit them even them. I hadn't thought about that aspect. It of course doesn't work if the pity is a one time thing per banner.
>>575374751literally all you need to do to fix hina is make her an antagonist again
>>575374816Newfag
>>575374826She raped me. Makoto would never.
would satsuki say this?
>>575374204We've had so many Gehenna events and stories where Gehenna is still inside it even if they aren't the main characters that I genuinely dont give a fuck. Hopefully the Gourmet and Hot Springs retards are nuked and not given one minute of screentime for their hundreth repeated shitty joke.
>>575374287Whales care about specific banners and will spend money to get them. If they get bad rolls, they will be spending money to "fix" their luck. This system will not allow them to be lucky and get two students with a single spark. So even if you get one student, you still have to gamble again with your 24k pyrox. That means more chances to get a bad set of pull and more chances to milk the whale. PR averages are not important, individual pulls by whales are.
>>575374767Considering how much "character development" has been "turns out the student was laughably pathetic to appease any losers who might have been intimidated by her former confidence", i'd rather we not go that route
>>575374614yeah and? hags have always been and will always be safehorny. Yes, even trash like Nikke is
I had a nightmare about the new rolling system and then woke up to reality...
>>575374826Honestly I'm not even into flats but Official Sexy Seia's l2d was just that fucking good. I put that shit in the background sometimes just because.
>>575374361average mika tranny poster
>>575374565This site's claiming that Makoto points carry over to Fes points.https://kamigame.jp/bluearchive/page/247499501886016272.html>7月29日のメンテナンスからガチャの天井システムが変わり、100連で引けなかった場合は次の周年限定ガチャでPUキャラをもう100連以内で引ける。>簡単に言えば、次のガチャに天井カウントを引き継げるようになりました。新周年キャラの水着イブキ・水着イロハの方が欲しい場合は、天井まで追わない方が良いです。
>>575375034Ok but they explored Hoshino's past and that still happened
>>575374776Damn that's crazy because I completely disagree I think the hair fits the outfit pretty well
>>575374518Considering I lost my chub for Eroha and Ibuki right after I saw the details, possibly.
>>575374213based Mashirochad
>>575374981Yes.
>>575374024Because it is
ENbros, whats our plan to fight against these banner changers? Are we just gonna sit down and watch and as they'll eventually sneak into our version too?
Kisaki sex
>>575374945Pity points reset when you get the featured student. You can pull as much as you want, but dupes will fuck your saved pity. I assume 50/50 reset when you pull the student, too.
>>575374826Seia raped the entire game, she took like 90% of artists attention. You cant just compete with that
They should have given us more Mika instead desu.
>>575375015>This system will not allow them to be lucky and get two students with a single sparkBlatantly false.
It's funny how a Gehenna volume still has to focus on Hina just to be successful
>>575375201give bad ratings to Google Classroom
>>575374776>>575374024I don't think there was anything wrong with the design. But kokosando is just not as good as YutokaMizu.
>>575374834>Instead, it is reset only when you obtain the featured student from any banner of the same category.so if i'm pulling for leisa but get suzumi instead the counter will reset AND i will get scammed out of suzumi's eleph?
>>575375201we can’t do shit. only jps, krs, and chinks can do something about it
>>575375240spark != 200 pulls
>>575375236My dick would be in danger so I'm glad they did not
>>575375120Same.Seia and Nagisa are blinged up.sMika is wearing a pure white swimsuit with her hair down, humble and emblematic of purity - symbolising her redemption / baptism after VF.
When something is better people can tell right away, if you need to pull stadistics to "proove" is better then means is not.
>>575375015Whales don't operate outside of what the probabilities dictate. If they absolutely want both students, the better average rate will give whales the students they want cheaper on average. Taken over the entire whale population, this effect would be fairly noticeable since the average difference going to 400 for a double spark is quite significant.>>575375219That would mean the same probability calculations that people have done for P(one student), P(two students), etc would apply over and over again on the same banner. A pretty ingenious whale trap if they really want to max their students. They can spark the same student over and over again until UE60.
Is /bag/ back to normal?
>>575374105Me too but they deserve our cash. Actually I feel like we owe them money for all the fun they've given us. Anyways, are you also gonna swallow their cum too?
>>575375040alright bikinischizo
>>575375034Stop talking like a normalfaggot.We already know Hina and Makoto's dork sides, nothing new there.>>575374767I wouldn't be opposed either, but I at least want specifics on Kasumi's part in it, since she's the most interesting part of the current situation as is.>>575374795>19 years oldFucking absolute giga hag.As I say this, I had another thought of what it could be. What if Makoto's retiring and giving leadership of Gehenna to Hina? She is 18. Though I feel having a student actually graduate would cause a shitstorm.
>>575375349No. It has to be the rate up.
>>575375349No, featured means the one you're currently rolling on.
Iroha Status?
>>575374751Gegenna is basically there for comic relief
>The gacha is made worse>Momoi finally starts saying itwould this tradeoff be worth it?
Damn I was looking forward to today. Even if Nexon reverses the change, I'll never forgive them for tainting Pandefes with this crap.
sKisaki was much better bluefes material than the pande outfits we got, I will die on this hillDon't get me wrong I thought Ibuki and Iroha had potential but the designs are kind of disappointing to me
if it was any improvement they would make it part of the marketing and make a big deal out of it, simple as
No new feet L2D...
>>575375432>What if Makoto's retiring and giving leadership of Gehenna to Hina? She is 18.Age is irelevant, they're both 3rd years retardo
>>575375432Makoto and Hina are in the same year. They would graduate at the same time.
>>575375201I'm gonna stop buying the monthly packages at the very least, not because I care that much about the change, but because this is something that actually could lead to EOS. Other than that I'm gonna jerk off to BA girls wearing diapers.
Pandemonium summer is now tarnished with the new banner system fuck
>>575375415Entire whale population is below the sample size. That's the whole point. One bad case can earn them a lot, good pulls cost them nothing.
>>575375417never will be
>>575373948It's true tho, look at these past several posts
>>575375525the change is so good for the players they left it to the players to do the math and figure that out
Let's talk about Chiaki instead.
Damn right it wasn't a live event. If I were there I would cap his ass right on the spot, like BLAM
Is it Nexon proposing the gacha changes, meaning it's up to Yostar to decide whether to implement those changes or not for JP only?
>>575375516pandemonium shit will always be bad, they're only liked because they have 2 lolis and 1 of them literally looks like a toddler
>>575375368The purity of Mika's exposed ass...
>>575372476eh I don't think so, it's just the same angle. Kikyou has that erotic thigh but Makoto-sama's shading and navel look a bit better I think.
post the game that you will adopt as your main after BA EoSfor me is
>>575375558It was tarnished with that awful swimsuit lineup. the banner change is just the cherry on top
I think the new system might be better for f2p players, it can fuck you over when you need both new students but that's only 2 to 3 times a year. For example I got swimsuit Kisaki with 150 pulls and I had to skip Shun, with this new system I would have gotten Kisaki at the 100th pull and save 50 pulls.
>>575375201I'm gonna whine about it and give them negative press rather than free advertising because I'm an F2P and that's all I can do.
>>575375615They gotta be deciding this shit together. Publisher has a lot of weight in monetization and scheduling.
this is all because Seia got her asmr
>this is a bad swimsuit according to /bag/OK post an example of a good swimsuit
>>575375349>so if i'm pulling for leisa but get suzumi instead the counter will reset AND i will get scammed out of suzumi's eleph?The chances of that happenning are low because is very weird to get the other rateup student while rolling for the other, but yes, if that happenned you would be fucked.Roll for reisaLose coinflipKeep going to 200Get Suzumii for some twist of destiny at 199 rolls.Yep, you back to zero pity and have to roll may be 200 times more for Reisa.It would be akin to being struck by lightning while in your living room, but may happen
>>575374024I prefer this art over it>>575375307Seconding this
Japanese twitter reactions were mostly negative but at least there were some ambivalent ones and people unsure about the mathJapanese comments under the stream on youtube are ALL negative, and way harsher I wonder if the devs thought everyone would just clap and go along with their bullshit as usual and got caught off guard, or if they prepared for it from the start as evidenced by the lack of live audience
>>575375642Bro that's hopping out of a fire to go into Hell
>>575375560the system is a lot worse if you get good luck tho but whales eat shit and probably won't quit even if they hate it.
>>575375642didn’t they stop doing lolis because of germany
>>575375603chiaki rape
>>575375603My summer alt rating:Satsuki>chiaki>iroha>ibuki>makoto
>>575375741It isnt its clearly just not on students they like.
pity is such a crazy concept now that I think of it
>>575375642I went from>Kancolle>Nothing>Blue ArchiveI will return to nothing if need be
>>575375642Strike Witches has never had a game that survived for long so BA will forever be my final gacha.
>>575375535>>575375539True enough, forgot about that.It's definitely about the time they overthrew the previous prez then. Has to be. They've been signaling this since the Abydos stuff. Heck wouldn't be surprised if the Abydos girls made an appearance.
>>575375603My dick is talking to her womb right now
>>575375603xD
>>575375750Doing the shit sandwich by having good news right before and right after means that yes, they know it’s controversial
>>575375642
>>575375615I don't think they want to split the code and players in two. All exec must have agreed to make the change everywhere.
>>575375742if you're rolling for reisa, getting suzumi will not reset the pity count, it resets if you get reisa early
>>575369887This whore will make me come back to this game. i love this sagger
>>575375741This one. Best swimsuit and sexiest tummy in Blue Archive's history. Shizuko close second.
>>575375741>post an example of a good swimsuitask grok to remove that shower curtain she's wearing on top and you have a good swimsuit
>>575374862That's the crux of the problem. The main issue with how Hina is written is the writers are insistent that only Sensei can be close to her. Neru and Tsurugi are also powerful and feared, but they have friends that see them for who they are. So you can have interact with people that get them and flesh them out. Hina, however must never break her stony faced facade, even among her closest friends, which really kills the sort of dynamics she can have. There are students that could play off of her well, but as long as she's unable to "get on their level", there's little they can get out of it.
>>575375832true sister, nexon should remove it from the game altogether
>>575375741I do like Makoto's swimsuit though.
>>575375603I'm glad that she's free but sad she will be associated with this terrible update
>>575375908This
>>575375750>or if they prepared for it from the start as evidenced by the lack of live audienceand here we thought they did it because they were unsure about the community reaction pandemonium would getoh how naive we were
>>575375741You mean according to mikafagsIt's actually pretty good
>>575375741I literally didn't see a single person saying Makoto's swimsuit being bad.People only seems annoyed by Ibuki's and some people (few) say Iroha is mid. But pretty much everyone agrees the other three are "fine" or better
>>575375516Kisaki looks to much like a Chinese Aunt and needed an extra oomph for a potential anniversary unit like a Kiki mode change
>>575375750I feel like Yostar knew this would be a bad idea, thus not having a live audience to spare the presenters and seiyus the humiliation.
>>575375642I will simply not play gacha games ever again because BA is an outlier
>>575375741Sure.
>>575375679>I would have gotten KisakiMaybe. You would have gotten her MAYBE.
>>575375642Bang Dream Our Notes when its released
>>575375642brown shart is dead and looks like shit in general (fitting)
>>575375981Imagine the booing.
>>575375560>One bad case can earn them a lot, good pulls cost them nothing.Not true. In the old system, the risk of busting 200 without the rate-up was 25%. One in four whales would not be able to cash out both students in 200 rolls. In the new system, that number is ~12%. This difference is noticeable with a very small population of whales.
>>575374215i want to become her
>>575375603>irrelevant>welfare>least popular out of the whole clubWhat is there to talk about?
>>575375642Not touching another gacha when this one inevitably wraps upEverything is lame and gay now
>>575375642I will probably be hopping over to GFL once this game dies. But that game is also finished(in a not-bad way.), so i'll probably read the story and then get off gachas for the foreseeable future.
>>575375415if what >>575370064 linked to is right for giga whales spending hundreds of rolls gives them less eligma overall, which is exactly what nexon wanted
JPfags, go spam their CS herehttps://bluearchive.jp/contact/4
>>575375741Makoto is pretty good tier by the way.
>>575375949You know I haven't seen a single person mention Chiaki's elf ears yet
>>575375240It just makes you reset your pull count if you get lucky. I could get lucky at 50/50 or at any point before 190, but instead of topping myself off at 200 with a spark to get both, I'm now required to start over for the other banner for another 50/50, or >200. This automatically makes pulling for more than one student a potential 36k/48k brick when before you could very likely snag 2 within 200. If that reset wasn't there, then it wouldn't be bad anymore.
nexon doesn't respect my loyalty so i uninstalled
>>575370462There's this line that implies Hasumi is bigger, but it's really probably just up to however the writers/artists were feeling about their busts on any given day.
It's kind of a catch 22 here because if they do roll back the changes it will also probably mean less money for the game. They are making these changes because of diminishing profits and Nexon stock tanking 40% in the past year. They need to make more money and the shareholders are probably the ones demanding it.If they roll back the changes it's likely they'll do so for the overall PR and nothing else, but internally they'll say to themselves, "okay, this game is a lost cause, let's put less money into here and try to squeeze one of our other IPs, like Maplestory" I feel like we're fucked either way lads
>>575376056>This difference is noticeable with a very small population of whales.That's not how statistics work.
Ibuki's swimsuit didn't make my peepee hard.They don't get my money.
>>575375642I'll probably just go back to FF14. shit game but at least it doesn't fuck me over like that
This FES is gonna flop and Pandemoniumfags are gonna pretend it's because of the gacha changes lmao
>>575376145Also that just being Iroha's opinion/guess
You guys are dumb if you think they won’t revert the changes. Nexon was clearly testing how much they could get away with, and the backlash has been way too big for them to go through with it.
>>575375750I think they knew it would be controversial but thought they could hide it in with the fes stuff, because they underestimated how much people would hate it
>>575375750When something is good you don't need to prepare evidence.If they had said "from now on, on the 100th roll you have a 50/50 chance of getting the student" and nothing else people would have clapped and be happy.when you start to removing this and adjusting that, and put this there to compensate, people instantly gets on guard because they know they are up to something
>>575375978She has Kiki voicelines, it's pretty neatShe does feel like a premium student despite not having a mode change like shun(ny). First impression is she definitely feels more premium than sIbuki or sIroha, but maybe I'll change my mind once I get my hands on them.
Makoto>Chiaki>Satsuki>>>>>>>>Iroha>IbukiBut really they're all not great which sucks since I like Makoto's base and dress sprites
>>575372852>but if you have bad luck, you'll get even more fucked.explain to me how exactly am I better off double sparking without two extra coinflips at 100 and 300?
>>575376141that's what they want. the objective of this is to push out players who will complain when they try to milk the playerbase for more money. It'll be followed next fes by further changes to do the real milking.don't uninstall. just go f2p; keep playing, keep complaining, and don't give them any money.
>>575376193Can't it be both?
Everything I'm seeing on the math suggests this gacha change is either insignificant or actually saves you ~10 rolls for every 200 on average. It's kinda funny to see everyone flip out but my logical side still cringes seeing people go "AHHH IF WE BOYCOTT IT THEY'LL REVERT IT" when the reversion would mathematically be worse for the majority of the playerbase.
>>575376149It's rather they leave BA to die a slow death than try to squeeze out whatever life is left in it. Fuck Nexon.
>>575376109why only 2 tiers? if everything is great then nothing isyou put Moe in the same tier as Miyako you're so fucking retarded
>>575370446I got s.Hoshino in the first 10 rolls in the recollection banner.
>>575375741>post an example of a good swimsuitsIchikasIzunaoCherino unironicallythe best swimsuits in the game
I want to ejaculate inside Iroha and Hina at the same time...
>>575375741makoto is great, it is iroha's granny suit and ibuki's burka that are lame
>>575375976>I literally didn't see a single person saying Makoto's swimsuit being bad.I've seen like a dozen people already bitching that it looks bad, and I've been sitting here since morning.I think even more anons were complaining about Satsuki's alt, for some reason
>>575376149There are other easy ways to boost revenue without actively screwing us over
>>575376132You still have over a 50% chance of getting both in 200. You have a higher chance of getting both below 200 which balances out the chance of going over 200.
>>575375642I don't NEED to play a gacha. In fact I abhorred them before BA, and very carefully picked BA because I understood its gacha/income before I started
>>575375642I started playing ZZZ when AoD released and I'd say its systems are miles better because the game is extremely casual and you do not lose out on anything by skipping meta characters>>575376013You're wrong. After the changes, it'll be more probable to get the pick up with 100 pulls than it is with 199 pulls now.
>>575375878>>575375957>>575375981speaking of seiyuu, there's also a bunch of comments angry that they had the seiyuu announce the changes, instead of having someone from the dev team actually show up and take the heat seems to be backfiring
>>575376149BA already barely needs a budget as is. And I feel it still makes bank. Especially around fes.
>>575376228always expect the worst so you don't hype yourself for the inevitable disappointmentand given Nexons jewish record expect the worst you should
>>575376332I'd rather be retarded than GAY
>>575376193I don't think it will be a total disaster because gacha addicts are still gatcha addicts, but it's gonna be noticeable.But it's gonna be fun when people starts to share their rolls
>>575376228I don't know if they will revert the changes, but I think at least some sort of response is guaranteed today.
wait, isn't this a game developed by koreans? why do the japs hold so much power over the devs decisions?
>>575376149Stop pretending to be a HinaBro, pajeet
If you're going to send a complaint in the website, at least connect it to how it will loses player base, and thus, profit. Speak in the language they understand.
>>575376149>let's put less money into here and try to squeeze one of our other IPsOh god no. Less money put into faggy soccer collabs and clothing collabs and whatever the other endless 500 collabs they showed on stream yesterday were.How can we live without all that?
>>575376418Oh shit this reminds me of how Kemono Friends died.
>>575376316This game is not played by robots but by human beings, who have a tendency to focus on negative experiences. The new system has a lot more opportunities for negative experiences.
>>575375201I'm on my way to 1-4-5 roppongi, minato-ku, Tokyo 106-0032, Japan with an armed portable nuclear warhead as we speak.
>>575376303>d-don't uninstall that's not how a boycott worksIt's deeply funny seeing BA players on /vg/ talk the exact same way I used to see 16yos on twitter talk about genshin
>>575376157Okay, Discounting the eligma earnings, please explain how it is possible that fewer average rolls needed to get the students whales want assuming they always roll until they get what they want can translate to more earnings for Nexon.
Persona 5 The Phantom XI have been playing the game for a while, I'm ready for Magatsukami/Nyarly.Love Yumi, Tomoko, Riko (Seia) and Rin (Yaoling)
>>575376387Not really. BA has up to this point been a pretty generous game and there isn't much to spend money on. You can't introduce paypig elements without screwing over players unless you're talking about cosmetics or something
>>575376316If it's so minor, why don't they just give us a free 10-pull ticket instead?
>>575375642This is the last one I'll pick up. I've got another I've been playing for years, and I wasn't originally planning to play this, but I wanted to collect hot hebes. I would never start another gacha with hags and males in the pool, and a game had to be very generous for me ever to consider starting it in the first place and obviously nobody is trying to follow suit with that.
>>575376443Hi Aoba, big fan
>>575376472japs usually spends the most money on gachas
>>575376149just hire less expensive VAs and the game could probably survive another 5 years easily
>>575376347Bruh
>>575376316If that's the case then why change it at all?
>>575376472Japs are the biggest spenders and the game was initially marketted to them and released for them first.
>>575376193Normally I don't give two shits about revenue because that shit is for lame ass faggots but I'm genuinely curious about how this bluefes will do.
>>575376293it's more likely that you have to dip into 200+ pulls under the new system than under the current one.>but the averageyeah if you go 400 pulls in that banner, but how many banners do you go in with a 48k pyro budget?
>>575375642I already play everyday>Blue Archive>Nikke>Stella Sora>Trickcal>Genshin>HSR>ZZZ>EndfieldAnd I feel really sad because Blue Archive was by a wide margin my favorite game and the one where I have spent the most money as well.I can't say I like any of the other games enough to "replace" BA, even though I play all of them anyway.BA was the only one that was almost "perfect" in most regards, and the new system makes me think Nexon wants to increase a lot the monetization long term.
>>575376453this specific fes might actually make more money because of all the pakeji they addedthe eleph ones alone are insane what will be the a giga flop will be whatever banner is after this
>>575376472Because they’re the main money makers. Koreans matter because most of them know how to operate a firearm. And the Chinese matter because of the “potential” revenue
I tried to warn you guys that all this lolifag pandering was a bad omen, well well well would you look at us now
>>575376347idk man, I like Makoto's swimsuit. It looks great imo
>>57537659780% of the VAs are already literal whos
>>575376517how kemono friends died? I know it existed and was highly regarded but nothing else
>>575376189Don't bother. The latest expansion was dogshit and the community is even more dominated by AGP weirdos than ever
>>575376232>If they had said "from now on, on the 100th roll you have a 50/50 chance of getting the student" and nothing else people would have clapped and be happy.if they had said "from now on recruitment points will carry over" with no other changes I would've creamed my fucking pants
>>575375642Dammit, meant >>575376542But yeah, P5X
>>575375642I play exactly 2 gacha games and I will not pick up another. When they EoS I am done.I am very good with that.
Blue Archive is dying and you're laughing?
Where boogi tummy?
>ba dies just in time for vtuber slop and traitor slop to eat the scrapsworst timeline
>>575376418>>575376517Seiyuu shield.
The sad part is Nexon is doing nothing to draw in new players into the game. All they're doing is trying to milk the existing playerbase and this is simply the result of the direction they're moving.
>>575375642>Poop Dust baited and switched the loli with nothing but hagslop>They even released their own Asuna>went out full coomer while at it>didnt workMeh, I will keep playing non gacha games.Might try Astrae Oratio if it aint the yurifag fest that some people claim its gonna be. This industry is already in need of a good reset anyways.
>>575376418That’s pretty scummy, and on a fes event too
>>575376316Move the spark to 190 then. I've played for years and I don't want your dumb tradeoffs, just keep pumping out the content and stfu
>>575376696I think you can't buy the elephs for neru and rio unless you roll for them on the current banner, but it's very confusing to me. It says you have 72 hours to buy it from getting their PU.
>>575376794Ayane sexo megane sexo jimiko sexo
>>575376672Always if I want both students? I'm not retarded.
when will the raid stop
>>575376601Nagisa's swimsuit is fine, that's about it. not bad, not great>>575376710Makoto's is my 2nd favorite out of the 5 new ones. I'd say it's good but not great, like a 7/10
The playerpigs got too cocky and refused to spend more than 200 rolls per banner so Nexon had to do something.
>if I drop BA I'll finally be free from the chains of gacha
>>575376756that too, actual good changes don't need "explanations" or graphics to show its better, they simply are better
>>575376418Corpos using seiyuu as a shield is always scumming. The fact that they do this and make the fest have no live audience speaks volume.
>>575376678Jesus Christ nigger if this isn't a troll post and you're hopefully f2p with all of those just think about all the other shit you could be spending that time on
next aonni will be ours
>>575376406>You're wrong. After the changes, it'll be more probable to get the pick up with 100 pulls than it is with 199 pulls now.Again, probable. Not guaranteed.Also here's a thing. The fact the previous system let you choose even up to the moment of redeeming the tickets. Which sure, might be irrelevant to some, but I liked that choice.
>>575376838That's how most gacha usually go after 3 years of initial growthIt's also why they pulled off many devs and artists off Blue Archive to work on Project RX. They're in their milking phase now as the game declines
>>575376903bro? raid isn't on for another day
>>575376903When you realize it's not a raid and actual players are upset.
>>575376521>a lot more opportunities for negative experiencesThis isn't unique. The unlucky percentiles are just shuffled around a bit. You get unluckier in difference spots than before, it doesn't mean they exist moreso than before. But yes, it's true that the game is played by human beings, who are notoriously terrible at comprehending statistics. We literally don't have the brains for doing so. It's been studied time and time and again.
>>575376890>I'm not retarded.lol
>>575375741Its not bad, its just that their other decisions were awful. Makoto isnt very popular so everyone forgot about her while focusing on the bad news
>>575376889I said this.
>>575376942>fest have no live audienceIs this the first time they've done this for a fes?
>>575376838that's just what happens with live service games. there's inevitably more interest and thus more new players joining early in the game's lifetime. once the game matures it becomes more about extracting more revenue from existing players and less about drawing in new ones.
>>575370617>Chiakisimple and cute, 7/10>Makotoreally nice, well suited and underlines her good figure. 8/10>Sachuki9.5/10. Love the sag, jewellery and the overall theme>IrohaI see what they're going with theme-wise, but I'm not a huge fan. 6/10>Ibukiif it were a two-piece with the same design I would've liked it and it would've been safe enough. But as it is, 4/10
You failed as a sensei if your students dress like this
>>575376890>he's still at it
>>575376382I've been sat here since 30minutes into the stream start and haven't seen much bitching other than calling Ibuki's safe and Iroha's hat.Can't say I've been paying too much attention since the gacha talk took over mind.
>>575376812What do you get when you cross a mentally ill /bag/got with a gacha that abandons him and treats him like trash?
Only a xmas sex wakamo alt can save this game please nexon please please
>News about the gacha system change is so bad that it made people forget the equally controversial "Story skip" Option>Which gives newfags the options to skip every single chapter in the game, and the game will just give them a paragraph summarizing it>The same thing GBF recently got>Every single "Read the story, newfag" and "Actually fucking read" post will be met with newfags skipping the entire game and pretending they read something, and getting into arguments about the game pretending they read it when really they skipped>Literally the main draw of this game is the story, and newfags in particular hate reading and you have to force them to do it, but once they do it they realize they love it, now Nexon is fighting against us and making sure newfags skip all the contentIf you aren't caught up on the story within the next few months on global, everyone is going to assume you skipped.
>>575376316your "logical sides" is getting completely fooled by the gambling experts behind the new system. It is no coincidence this is the standard for most gachas now, extensive research on human psychology and gambling patterns made that system in order to maximize profit, that you think nexon randomly decided to be more generous because a of a graph using high school math is also part of the features in this new system
>>575376916I'm a BA player, not a gacha playerI literally don't play any other gacha and BA is the first one I've played more than 2 weeks (now on my 4th year)
>>575376418>>575376517God dammit not again
>>575377028yuh
>>575377028Yes. The devs/execs knew for a fact that the gacha news would cause a negative reaction, so they made this fes the first one to have no live audience.
>>575376390>You have a higher chance of getting both below 200 which balances out the chance of going over 200.I thought you guys were the mathfags? The graphs show this is false specifically for 2 students. It only increases your chances of having both more than the old system at 300/400. The old system is still higher for getting both at 200. You have to win the 50/50 twice in a row, which isn't a 50% chance. Which is why 200 pity specifically gives you an edge over the new system.
>>575376597Most of the VAs aren't big names and there's only like a fraction of voiced content in this game already, they can't be spending THAT much on them
>>575376735>The latest expansion was dogshitI know anon, I quit about a year ago, well into the new expansion (I got severely burned out after the 2nd savage tier). I did resub once after that because some friends wanted to do content (2 separate groups almost at the same time, funnily enough) and it was alright, but idk if I'd want to raid like I used to. if I were to resub I'd take it more casually probably>and the community is even more dominated by AGP weirdos than everyeah I also remember that to be an issue. I played on EU where it's less of a problem than on NA but it's definitely something I'm not looking forward to
>>575377004No one remembers each individual roll. They remember a milestoneI got a student in 200 or I didn't get a student in 200Now it's I got a student in 100 or not, I got a student in 200 or not, I got a student at 170+ and my points reset etc
>>575376729IIRC after the anime becoming a massive success because of them hiring a random director, they fired said director out of nowhere and made the seiyuus apologize. Shortly after with the release of a second season that completely demolished the plot set by S1 it was revealed that they wanted the series to die from the start and the anime was meant to be a humiliation ritual.
>>575375741I didn't say it was bad, just that it was boring and doesn't really fit her. Doesn't look demonic enough.
eos
>>575375642I had to drop genshin because i only have a PS4 so no more gachas for me
>>575377084If they only dress like that for (You) you didn't.
>>575376601WHORE NagisaOh right, i forgot the nuanceESCORT Nagisa
>>575376418Using seiyuu to announce controversial changes as shield is a well-known corpo-scum strategy.
>>575376838If we take in mind how corporations are, they probably thought this change of strategy would SOMEHOW bring new playersObviously that's not going to happen and it's going to kill the interest in the game
>retards defending new worse gacha systemlmao you deserve this shit game
>>575377151Do you not know what the world below means?
>>575376530I told you, individual players will have more variance. Whale hit a bad luck has more reason to spent their money. The old system had fixed chance to get both students in 200 pulls. In new system, you will have do win two coinflips to do the same. Do you think they started selling elephs without realizing this?
>>575377257>>575377257>>575377257
>>575376086>gflold or new?>>575376678When Yuuka yaps about Sensei, she is yapping about you, anon. I could barely keep up with 2 gachas
>>575372583They're both mindcontrolled to get along
So what happened to our promised Ibuki in microbikini?
>>575377230Please stop shitposting with pictures of my studentwife.
>>575377084Thank god that isn't Kayoko then. Kayoko has a mole around her right collar bone and also one left wing.
>>575376228I don't think theyll revert, but I do hope they'll make the system a little nicerAs they wrote it it seems like you get some freebies including a time-limited tenner if you get fucked, if they make that 2 tenners I can see people grudgingly accepting itthough this does bring up, why even have expiration on tickets now? people can just use them and bank the pity
>>575376672Nigger I had 5 (five) dry sparks between 4.5 and 5th Fes.The coinflips would've been nice
Can you retards stop pretending the gacha change is good. It's factually shit. All you've shown is your contrarian idiots who wanna pretend it isn't because everyone everywhere also knows how shit it is and you wanna pretend your the special smarty pants that actuallyknows better than everyone else. The people talking about their graphs and retarded fake math would jump at the opportunity to write a 500 page essay about why eating shit taste good actually if they saw people talking about how gross shit is.
>>575374024Oh yeah, I guess pandemonium it's not so bad after all.
>>575376710
>>575376919yep. when (((they))) start hiding changes behind layers of convoluted shit and you need a master's degree in statistical analysis to show everyone that there is one fringe case where the change is marginally better, you know they fucked up
>>575377121They will what now??
>>575377261>the world belowyou mean hell?
>>575374703?
>>575376316They wouldn't risk this backlash for something that they project to make less money, someone is paying for this in the end.
>tfw I know how math works so I'm not melting down over the gacha update but I also want people to lose faith in BA and be easy marks for the new game by the writer and artists who actually made BA in the first placeYou can apologize to Doremi now.
I am no math expert but wouldnt a system like Genshit's imply there will be a second layer of RNG for the purples?
>>575377329did you do 400 pulls?
>>575376612new system is worse for banner eleph fishing. They'll make more money on whales
why does kokona get a cuter suimsuit than ibuki
>>575376812The dream is over. We can only laugh and cry. >>575377308I'm not shitposting, I'm genuinely upset. Akane is also my studentwife. If Nexon is right (which is not true), then all my posts will amount to nothing, but if they are wrong (which they are) then things we change only for the worse.TLDR: I'm upset
>>575377271>old or new?Old. I cannot bring myself to be interested in Exilium
>>575376919>>575377407>If I can't FEEL the new changes they're badWomen or trannies?
>>575376838That would require a significant change. Steam release was probably their last idea without having to redo everything. Shiny new stuff will attract people, old games do not.
>>575377265You do realise that variance goes both ways? Can you show mathematically that for a small population, the skew is in Nexon's favour? I don't think you can.
>>575377465>Doremi created BA by himselfUnderage post
>>575377496yes, two of those five were a full double spark.
>>575377557will change*
>>575377532>thinking we'll be getting that one and not another granny swimsuitfuck
>>575377464What do you want them to do, explain the math that says "whales pay more" on stream? That's not a good look either. Just be an informed consumer anon.
>>575377246it's just a Nexon shill vs everyone elese atp
>>575377610>You do realise that variance goes both ways?Yes. but it's not the math issue, it's a psychological one. The result is not balanced. Good pulls costs them nothing, whale with no limit and bad luck is a golden mine. You must not forget that the first packeji is the hardest to sell. Any change to teach a whale, or a future whale, is significantly more valuable. They effectively doubled their opportunities.
>>575377612Anon I would love to live in the fantasy world you live in where a 14yo underage posting on 4chan is a big fan of the og BA artists. Honestly the world would be a slightly warmer place if tiktok cutecore accounts were posting about pajama Hina and benriya 68
>>575378141>change*
>>575377815>Just be an informed consumer anonthis is unironically harder with the new pulls, now I have to take into account a far larger breadth of scenarios than "get one early, spark the second" which was 75% of scenarios
>>575378141>Good pulls costs them nothing, whale with no limit and bad luck is a golden mine.But the 400 roll limit is still there? If they only want the two characters, there is no unlimited rolling. At 400 they will be guaranteed to have both. If we assume they were always going to roll until they get both, the worst case is the same and the average case is better for the whale in the new system. If we talk about whales that would give up on one of the students at 200 rolls, then you definitely have a point.
>>575377465It's amazing that the average filipino you can find posting in here both thinks Nexon shot their dog for enacting this gacha systems change and thinks that everyone who left Nexon is a 'greedy traitor' with no amount of critical examination of either of these positions or the disparity between the two.
>>575377521you are massively overlooking how insidious the 50/50 is. Retards will impulse roll 100 in a lot more banners now for that coin toss and they'll probably screw themselves into paying down the lineIf you plan accordingly maybe the new roll system is better but I still don't like how scummy it is, all for as you said is a single tenner per spark
>>575376813where iboogi cunny?
>>575378439True. I was talking more about the people who still need a little push. Whale that pays maximum without any thinking needs a slightly different approach. Giving them more students to spent their resources on and selling more resource packs is probably the other part they aim for.
>>575378539>literally the goomba picture: the postcome on bruh
>>575379134Anon you can't "muh goomba" two things that are held as fact by 80% of the thread each. "uh actually one 80% believes point A and the other 80% believes point B" That's not how math works unless you're Scott Steiner.
coom in doomrope in hope
>>575370302I got both of them like that
>>575384731You are stinky
