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>>575603487The cuptains represent Kris and the Mizzles represent Dess.
>Rudy's collapse is compounded with the news the next morning that Noelle and Kris never returned home and have both gone missing, by midday, Toriel, Asgore and Susie have all arrived at the hospital, where Carol is juggling her comatose husbands health crisis and her missing daughter. (while stopping out behind the hospital to smoke from stress every ~15 minutes)>*Carol pacing up and down the reception area calling someone over and over*>"T...This isn't H...ow this was meant to go, everything I...I was doing was to make sure this didn't happen and why...WHY WON'T YOU JUST. ANSWER THE PHONE KRIS!">"Why...Do you have Kris's number?...">"After what happened to Dess I...Just wanted someone to keep an eye on her...And to make sure she had nothing to do with...It doesn't matter ok?!...I know its inappropriate Toriel but Look...I...I'm going to try my daughters phone ag-">*Officer Napster floats in*>"Me and everyone else I deputised have turned basically the whole town over and we haven't found them">"What do you mean by BASICALLY?">"Well...the only place left is...the old emergency shelter...">"NO! They wouldn't be there, Noelle would never go near it, and even if she did want to...the entire point was he was to MAKE SURE she never got anywhere near it!">Eventually after convincing from Toriel, Susie and Asgore, Carol runs with the group to the shelter to enter her code and open it.>Susie flinches as the door springs open, preparing to be sucked into a dark fountain and battle the knight.>Instead all they see is officer Undyne, dehydrated and roughed up, but alive splayed on one of the shelters beds.>Susie sprints to the school to try and see if Kris and Noelle are in Castle Town>It's just a regular closet>Neither Kris Dreemurr, Noelle Holiday, 'The Knight' or any hint of 'Dark Worlds' are ever seen again.
First for trans rights!
say something nice about them!
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Personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
>>575603432nta but you made me realize the ascent where Asgore is being an ass to the flowers is paralleling how he was in the house before the divorce
>>575603689was this not obvious? what else could that scene be telling you?
Immaculate Vibeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m393BTIlY_s
>>575603653mew mew says something funny when you get her mew mew gauge to 41%. i think it was kill all trannies NYOW or something
I'll suck every dicer clit
Asgore molested dess theory just droppedhttps://www.tumblr.com/krisonthefrontporchwithabeer/823341076450607104
>>575603660They're the second sexiest enby in this game.
Please/v/ fags Im begging, you can stay but just don't talk about trannies please
I want to be stepped on by Asriel (god form) so bad it's actually unreal, /utg/ros...
>>575603603>can't go 5 seconds without crying about "muh trannies"Yeah, I'm the one having a meltie for laughing at the sperg
>>575603660I like their stupid little dance
>>575603745Flowery moments before he touches jaronas with me
>>575603789whats wrong with your containment thread again?
Anti Timeloop Schizo (and friends) LOST
>>575603768I dunno I was too busy wanting to kick Flowery's ass to think about narrative subtleties
>>575603879with friends :D
>>575603745CUUUUUTE!!! FLOWERY NERVOUS IN VULNERABLE POSITION SEEEEX!!!!
>>575603660I like their 6.7 inches
>>575603653>>575603789Oh god dammit
>>575603851
i am kris the fucking traitor and i killed dess muhahahahaha!
>>575603823Yes the first two posters are /v/ fags trying to deliberately derail the thread. You can stop saying the obvious now
>>575603537Hooman!
>>575603851You might be gay lol
>>575603823trans stuff in general should just be like a no no topic here. it's exhausting to think about, and it doesn't relate to the game beyond headcanons
>>575603745I wish flowery had an interesting character to bounce off of but its just ralsei and asgore whos more boring than ever in this chapter.
Dayum
It’s me Faggoty!Star sign: the faggot, blood type: LGBTQFaggots blooms in your heartYour dad’s my gay lover
>>575604095based
tennafags are hopping ship to the flowery cruise
>>575604058scrolling past garbage posts without whining about it is /utg/ culture. i see a slutty goat erp, i scroll. i see aquacunny, i scroll. this place is unusable if you dont have self control
>>575603815second? who's the first?>>575603858>>>575603976me too...
>>575603803I would unironically suck batatt off if ge had a fat one. His small toyish body would be so easy to to pin down so he couldn't crawl away out of the shame of his [perceived] imperfect manhood
>>575603879At least you realize the whole thread is starting to laugh at you together.
>>575604056>mightI think I'm very distinctly homosexual, nonny...
>>575603954Do you think ATS or any of his alter egos are sexually aroused by tubas?asked Susie
Just saw the Aqua and Seth plushies. Apparently the others are getting some too, made me think Aqua and Seth are going to completely mog the rest in sales, haha.
>>575604095Direct quotations from the in-game text are truly the most on-topic post
>>575604058No, it exhaust YOU because you're a faggot. It's a game where three characters (3) have they/them pronouns and there's a literal gay cowboy making out with a black ballerina, stop with this nonsense.
>>575604169I hope they don't because dressing up as Tenna is easier.
>>575604179even the slutty goat rp and aqua cunny posts relate to the thread topic
>>575604048boys
>>575603247his motivations may have been different, but his behavior towards the flowers was ultimately similar enough to his behavior towards his family before the divorce that he was able to realize his mistakethis is in addition to, you know, the authorial intent of the whole scene to show to the player how he acted back then
>>575603853>cries about it at the start of the thread>cries about people mentioning trannis despite actively trying to make the thread about themyikes that kind of seems like a failure of your own personal responsibility
>>575603672Posting my art again because it's mine!!! Just wait, in a few weeks I'll make stuff that looks great!
>>575603823>>575604000>>575604058Not my fault people are obsessed with us. I'm just here to talk about Deltarune and share cute fanart. If /v/tards would stop sperging out any time they see trannies mentioned we could all go back to posting on topic.
>>575604265>it exhaust you please stop shitting the thread /v/ermin we get it you want your genderstimmies
The Susie part of the ‘Nightmare’ fan animation this person made is heart-breaking, the idea of Susie being an emotionally/mentally stunted girl playing pretend in a closet, and upon her “friend” walking in thinking he wants to play with her, only for him to kill her and leave her to “die like she lived - Alone” in therehttps://youtu.be/34h70-8IfmI?si=3L6YtYOJk6NP9utn
>>575604169Just because I like seeing a twink getting railed by a bear doesn't mean I'll abandon perfection
>>575604092Finger sucking is solo good, especially with anyone who's cockless. It gives them a little rush of excitement every time
transgenders are annoying
>>575604084I think Flowery's dynamic with Ralsei could have been more interesting if Flowery was made the same age as Ralsei, but I guess that would've killed the connection with Rudy.
for seth
>>575604370so you admit that you are only posting about off topic trans stuff in the deltarune thread to piss people off? pretty chuddy behavior i’m ngl
>>575603629>Not but they're well-intentioned, and Asgore is very abrasive towards them.>No Im saying the game makes it clear that his obsession with the investigations skewed his priorities away from his familyAsgore was just playing along with them to learn more about the dark world, he never viewed them as friends or family. He admits this right after the fight with Flowery. Surely if he's treating them as he did his own family, this applies too right? That despite only ever being a good father to Kris on screen whenever he gets the chance, he only ever viewed his family as tools to use while reaching the truth? Or do (You) get to selectively choose which scenes between Asgore and The Flowers are parallels when its convenient?
>>575604324>"wahhhh why are the trannies not just rolling over!?"fuck off obsessed fag
>>575604290Cute boys (male)
>>575604429>especially with anyone who's cocklessso women and castrati
>>575604453Kris tried to bribe Berdly with a kiss in exchange for the feather, but Berdly thought it would be unfair to Noelle and Susie, so Kris had to beat him in smash instead.
>>575604473timepoop melty uh oh
>>575604476>"wahhhh why are they telling me to fuck off and kill myself???"go to r/deltarune
>>575604370Have you ever wondered why and what behavior caused you to not get invited to the utg clique? Just think about it for maybe a second.
>>575604370its not /v/fags who hate them it's everyone on this website and in real life. heres your negative attention you ordered. stop bringing it up it will always devolve into threadshitting
>>575604623wrong guy dipshit, and I bet he's ecstatic over that fact
>>575604429you know what you're so right. I'm glad susie told kris to suck the melted ice cream off her fingers since it spawned this art
>>575603879You know just because you keep posting this doesn't make it true. It feels like some weird self-affirmation.
I love fish
The only good Flowery design
>>575604169in the circle of life, floweryfags will jump to the mettaton possessing tenna in chapter 6 and then it'll be just like 2016 when times were good and food wasnt super expensive.
>>575604663i like flowsei but it loses all appeal when het
>>575604708I'm staying here dipshit. If you don't like it you're free to go to the containment thread with all the pedophiles>>>/drg/
Im transphobic and nobody will never know bc i dont talk about trannies here
>>575604782I wish I looked like this as an adult so I could seduce women who are dangers to society.
>>575604473>he never viewed them as friends or familyNo but they viewed him that way and cared deeply about him.>That despite only ever being a good father to Kris on screen whenever he gets the chanceWe have seen 4 days out of the last 7 years. I don't think Asgore was outright abusive to the family, but he clearly didn't behave in ways that were healthy for himself or them. Even then, Asgore's behavior hasn't been healthy he stalks Toriel around to try and talk to her and clearly views Asriel coming home as an excuse for them all to have dinner together even if Toriel doesn't want to
>>575604665What, am I supposed to start crying and shitting myself because I'm not in your discord server? Why would I care?>>575604708Keep telling yourself that.
>>575604663Flowery being a woman not only makes the interactions cuter but also adds a funny subtext of a gay goat being repulsed by a woman
>>575604202Battat never washes that costume, doesn't shower, smells like cat piss
>>575604831>trying to use pedophile as an insult as if most deltatroons here aren't obsessed with tranny dess raping female child kris and toddler porn
>>575604169Why must it be hopping ship? I have room in my heart for many faves
>>575604759Feel free to post where I "lost" or was proven wrong, ATS. I've been waiting for days now
Oh no, thread is being cringe and it's another 12 hours until comfy night /utg/ hours
Good night, anons. Have a lovely day!
>>575604982Your heart must be cavernous and cold and worn-out and dry.
>>575604948know the workplace rulesdess is okayshayy is not
The Hide Post button is my only friend now
idk what to draw on the WB but i really want toim drawing a lil something outside of it, but just looking at the poor excuse for a canvas makes me fuming with rage and have 0 motivation to touch or finish ithow do you people enjoy this? drawing is torture
>local police chief obsesses over finding out what happened to the mayor's missing daughter who is also the daughter of his best friend>wow what a psycho!The way Asgore is written and treated by the other characters really exposes Toby's leftyness
sethsissies, this your fave?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blqoTIoq_8I
>>575604543>thinking about axe wound trannies out if nowhereObsessed
>>575604782I only like edgy shotas. When it comes to a flowery-type character, I prefer his adult design.
total gender traitor defeatthe male alliance is the strongest and most well established fighting force in the culture wardo not provoke their ire.......
>>575605060gote night
>>575605043You didn't even reply to that right one, that's someone new you have started to annoy with your incessant timepooping.
>>575604948Actually, I prefer tranny Dess raping male child Kris.
>>575604629>"fuck fuck fuck I keep saying the magic words and it's not workiiiing"Back to your containment thread fag>>575604948>doelestation and aquapedo posts down dramatically since /drg/ gets created>but it's totally the troons doing itlmaaao
>>575604874>womenyou would only end up seducing men
>>575605043You "lost" because the argument was about if you're mad annoying to talk to and if people deliberately avoid doing it and you've been proving them right ever since.
>>575603689Yes, as soon as he reaches the Castle (corresponding to the back area of his shop where he sleeps and keeps his notes that Kris doesn't want to look at) he's back into Investigation mode and it becomes much harder for him to mask his frustration.The scene when you head to the right side, where he shoves Flowery away and snaps at him for interrupting, feels especially illustrative of how bad things got with Toriel>* Flowery, can't you see I'm BUSY here!?>* If I can just PROVE this... I'll finally...Flowery and the flowers are just trying to distract him from his troubles, but in real life, what Toriel and Asriel saw was Asgore spiraling into delusion and obsession. He "failed" to protect Kris and Dess disappeared on his watch, in circumstances that neither of them could explain. He withdrew from his family, he could no longer be trusted with his job, he became erratic and short-tempered and his desire to find the truth and make things right turned into a fantasy of vengeance against the forces that ruined him.He could not be there for his family, he could not provide for his family, and he was not willing to move on and pick up the pieces of his broken life, like everyone else had to do without him.
>>575603814the theory only works when you somehow imagine blue representing dess and somehow green representing toriel(??). and also if you view things through a very pointed angle
>>575605114What about me and my sexy body?
>>575604290... and girls and anything in between.
>>575604896well it depends on if you want to get invited to things like utg menstrual blood painting
>>575604742God i need kris to suck me like that
friendly reminder that Asgore's obsession also got him fucking fired from his job because he wasn't fulfilling any of his duties
>>575604782shota flowery in bloomers..
>>575600764>Oh my maiden name? It is Gast-*game resets*
>>575605206THIS!!!
>>575605073The only "downside" about multifaving is that people dont recognize me. I love them all in different but equal ways
oppa gangam style
>>575605195your new head mates must be getting crowded now... You can make me go away forever if you just post it
>>575605152>out if >reddit spacingxhe's getting excited
>>575603689KILL ASGORE DREEMUR.
>>575605297>any of his dutiesyou mean fucking around town doing nothing like undyne?
>>575605224Women can also be pedophiles, anon. You clearly have very negative views of men.
K'risu
>>575604942Soz you're saying.. he stinks good
>>575605410Not him but yes
>>575604782JA-AILBAIT
ralsei butt
>>575605258if your sexy body can remove the internet connection from all the trolls you can take 1st place
>>575605143After you’ve ceased to be a police officer, spending literal years of your life hunting for “The Truth” of what happened to a single missing girl, who 95% of the townies probably wrote off as having run away or having killed herself, especially when your theory relies upon the existence of alternate dimensions caused by magic artefacts and the minds eye projecting life into darkness - Would in fact come across as bizarre and unstable.
>>575605410Alphys was RAPED in an ALLEYWAY
>>575605365berdgroomer...they were half your age...
>>575605228I will admit the "you're not wrong you're just mean :(" development is funny, but you should probably stick to discord
>>575604948Anon the person who wrote the fanfic of tranny dess raping theyfab kris was a cis woman who self inserted as dess.
>>575605413it was a compliment
>>575595191Time travel exists in the form of the prophecy. There will be no time loops except our artificial ones
>>575605612Based.More loli Kris please.
>>575605612depressing only because the actual woman feels like she has to take a knee and appeal to trannies for muh representation even in her own degen sexual fantasies
i thought people were lying about the tears over a flower being one shade lighter but kek these faggots are insufferable. at least the chuds know the george floyd jokes are fucked up
>>575604882>No but they viewed him that way and cared deeply about him.How they view him doesnt matter to my point, Im trying to tell you that Asgore does not see them as family, thus how would he be treating them like he treated his family? You may as well say some guy yelling at scammer on the phone means he must be abusing his wife back at home, you dont treat those two people the same way>clearly views Asriel coming home as an excuse for them all to have dinner together even if Toriel doesn't want toIf you think Asgore wanting Asriel to see his whole family together after coming home from college is just "an excuse to have dinner with Toriel", then clearly there's no fucking point in trying to argue with you and I shouldve stopped trying to treat you like you have a functioning brain up there
>>575605569who?
>>575605674>Time travel exists in the form of the prophecyWhat do you mean by this?
I killed Dess.......
>>575605551he's a really nice guy + he was right all along though
>>575605514sometimes
I want him to step on me I want him to step on me I want him to step on me I want
>>575605236I wish we got to see more, especially in Undertale.
>>575605879too shota
>>575605707>If you think Asgore wanting Asriel to see his whole family together after coming home from college is just "an excuse to have dinner with Toriel">* Kris... I'm sorry. I'm sorry for not realizing sooner.>* When Asriel comes home...>* ... I would love to see the both of you together.>* Even... without your mother, if she prefers.
>>575605575I didn't call you mean, I called you annoying. Those are very different things but i'm guessing being told you're annoying is more bruising to your ego.
>>575604896>filenameYou are aware that is not Pink, right?
>>575605908No such thing
>>575605881chara is dicking down this thing in the dorms every night
I can't wait for Forsen to play this game
>>575605703this. and it doesn't negate the fact that trannies are the target audience
Carol took the whole Holiday family on a trip to Japan and that was the first time that Dess saw shota porn. Really, everything that happened after was Carol's fault, which is why she's so controlling of Noelle. The moment Noelle slips through her fingers, she gets raped and kills herself.
>>575605650Noel sexo
>>575605970
>>575605410There isn't much to do in a place like Hometown
>>575605898You think he calmed down by the time the Cyan Soul human reached him? Or was he still at the apex of his rage?
>>575605920>but i'm guessing being told you're annoying is more bruising to your ego.wtf is this transphobia chuddy!
Someone already made this post before - But imagine if Susie is actually several years younger than Kris & Noelle but she just has fucked yo big dinosaur monster genes that cause her to be huge.Explaining why she emotionally connects the most to the darkner person whose symbolically meant to be a ~single digit aged little kid.
>>575605980They love each other so they switch every other night...
everybody shut up and post the most important character in deltarune NOW!!!!!!!!!!
>>575605410Imagine how fucked Asgore was acting while on the job to get fired while Police Chief Undyne is allowed to be Police Chief
It's very telling how /utg/ dogpiles Asgore while at the same time they make up any and every excuse for Toriel being neglectful
>>575606130except finding out what happened to dess...
>>575606114Shota scares away all the bad posters. nyon~>>575606236I already am
People who complain about reddit spacing are unironically reddit tourists.
>>575606192that's just because she's a shotacon
>>575605920Whatever, youve flip flopped between various versions of "your posts give me the cold pricklies :(" You and ATS can mald all you want but I'm right. You're mad because you can't prove me wrong and you run off whenever I ask you to engage meaningfully instead of just schizoing out
>>575606259Post doll Kris from this same artist.
>>575606272This is a misandrist general. Moids bend the knee to your female overlords or get out.
>>575606259>>575605440We love our kris. We take care of our kris
>>575603660CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
does anyone have a noelle picture where it has bottom text saying pendeja it is funny
>>575606056The last part made me laugh and realize Noelle's character change happens in under 24 hours.
>>575606397>bend the knee to your female overlordsIf that involves cunnilingus, I'm fine with it.
>>575605703make sure you're doing stretches before all of these mental gymnastics!
>>575606236No one else matters.>>575606272It's very telling how you take directly quoting the text from the game as an attack on your dad- I mean, Asgore.
>>575605793The prophecy is information from the future in a sense. It's baked into the world of Deltarune, which was written with an ending in mind. The purpose of the story is to figure out how to fit the shapes we have into the silhouette of the prophecy, like the puzzle in Chapter 2. We are the only people who can loop because we exist outside the story and can shift our eyes back to the beginning. The characters inside the story can't do that. Even if SAVE were real in Deltarune, Kris is not the person with the most determination, that's us. The symbolic purpose of our overwriting their savefile is to show that we are replacing Kris, who is a person who had their own life before us.Kris has never saved over their initial savefile because they've never had the power to do that, nor to load it. If Kris could save and load, there would be no vague terrible incident that changed Kris
>>575606345Personally I prefer to call it LLM spacing
>>575605879would kiss>>575605908nah just chibi>>575605970THAT'S too shota>>575606331rip
>>575606406
>>575606272Asgore and Toriel are both flawed characters and I don't hate either of them. Both of them being wrong doesn't make the other right
>Mike, you made those brownies for me?>I shouldn't eat so many treats or I'll never get out of this place. >Alright, just one.
>>575606272they're both wrongas is often the case irl when you find two people that have had a bitter falling out, they both want you to believe the other is entirely in the wrong but often they both are guilty of utterly failing to even try to deescalate or mend the situation to such a degree that it no longer matters who even started it
>>575605707>How they view him doesnt matter to my point, Im trying to tell you that Asgore does not see them as familyanon, it's a parallel, the flowers represent his family and friends. aqua to kris, flowery to rudy, blue to toriel etc. etc. like his family and friends, the flowers love him and want to spend time with him, maybe get him off investigating because it's turning into an unhealthy obsession. but asgore ignores the flowers. although it's not said explicitly, it's heavily implied through this action that asgore also ignored the flowers parallel counterparts through this scene of him ignoring the flowers.
>>575605703She wrote is before we even knew eachother. You think the whole fucking world revolves around us
butt
asgore is a loser
Police Chief Asgore didn't feel like dealing with the teens loitering in the diner because it wouldn't Proceed Completing The Mission so he just magdumped through the window and drove away
>>575606596I really don't think the flowers are 1 to 1 Asgore's friends and family, that's a stretch.
>>575606441you understand...!
>>575606141Aqua had to be his first reality check, I think he hesitated at first briefly but the grief from losing his children outweighed this hesitation and led him to kill her. He definitively must have felt horrible after taking her soul though, maybe the knowledge of having taken a child's life stopped him outright from using the soul to pass the barrier and murder other 5 humans because he didn't want to murder another child, and so he settled for waiting out.
>>575606628go to bed susie
What is her problem?
>>575606406All Krisses will be bathed and fed and healed
>>575606328>asgore finally finds something to do>it costs him his jobFunny
>>575606712"The curtains are blue" ass post
>>575606596That's wrong. The flowers don't represent specific people, they represent another chance for Asgore to do the right thing and pay attention to people instead of his obsession and he fails to do that the second time. The flowers are their own people. Flowery is pretending to be Rudy and Asriel and whoever he needs to because that's his way of trying to get at Asgore. He's not based on Rudy or a parallel to Rudy at all
>>575606493I love daddy asgore pls stop bullying him <8(
>>575606596Asgore (and the audience) have no reason to care about the flowers or see them as family
>>575606628this that got dam little boy energy character
>>575606056repeat after me carol is always right about everything
>>575606596To me Seth parallels Dess.
>>575606758Milk looker is not NEARLY that breedable. Milk looker more like Milk chester.
>>575606774Nah, I agree with that. You are wrong to think that way. In fact we are directly told that's wrong because Flowers are not darkners
butte game. butte website. butte general. butte butte
>>575606596the chapter would be good if this were true
>>575606359>youve flip flopped I've made 2 posts replying to you ever, both in this thread, both calling you annoying. This is my third and i'm going to stop here because you're just proving my point. I don't care about your theories, you're just too autistic to have a meaningful conversation with.
>Kris... I'm immensely proud of you.Toriel didn't say this btw
>>575606520There's a lot of "didn't play the game award" in here but I'll keep it down to two things>Even if SAVE were real in Deltarune, Kris is not the person with the most determination, that's usWe do not exist in the world, we just control the characters. In Undertale we did not have more determination that Flowey, Frisk did we just controlled Frisk>Kris has never saved over their initial savefile because they've never had the power to do that, nor to load itWe control Kris right now, Kris was in control of themselves until the game started>If Kris could save and load, there would be no vague terrible incident that changed KrisThis is like saying "well Flowey can't have had time travel powers because then Chara would still be alive." You can only go as far back as when you got the powers. Flowey is Asriel but Asriel didn't have the determination to save, only Flowey did. We don't know when Kris got the power to save but it was most likely at the start of the original festival week
>>575606814>Asgore has no reason to care about the flowers he's been taking care of for 20 yearsreverse the /v/ bans NOW and get these drooling retards out of here
>>575606796Paying attention to the flowers would have done nothing for Asgore since it's all dark world stuff that is meaningless and will cease to exist in less than a day
>>575606834it feels like the hidden parallel yeah, >has buck teeth, like the holidays>when equipping on noelle, she hesitates to say who it reminds her off>seems to play with aqua (kris's parallel)but then there's pink so oh well
>>575606852Search your heart
>>575606732If UT Kris really was the cyan soul then their life must have been so sad. Falling down when the underground was filled with rage at the humans, alone and scared. They never met Noelle or Suzy, at best only Toriel. They died at the hands of who would have been their adoptive father in another timeline...Man, I hope the humans really did resurrect at the end of True Pacifist because otherwise UT Kris had It the worst.
>Defeated Pink>Got the flower items>Nothing to do anymore except fight FloweryI wish I could fight the previous bosses again.
>>575606628s-s-sauce?!
>>575606331
>>575606758>>575607026Finally...Drunk Bun 2...
Some of the flowers feel like direct parallels, like Aqua and Yellow, but I have no idea who Seth and Orange could represent. The closest to Seth is Noelle, but that still feels kind of off. It definitely feels less clear than how Aqua and Yellow are just Kris and Asgore.
>>575607013They are flowersHe's a grown ass man who knows it's all fake not a delusional teen like Susie
>>575607029https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qVPNONdF58
>>575607024They don't want you to know that Pink is the Carol parallel.
>>575606958If you're going to pretend to be a new schizo you can't type exactly like every other reply you make to me. >I don't care Then you wouldn't have replied in the first place fag. You care, you hate that I'm right and you that the game will vindicate me sooner than later. If you think the tenna thrust posts are bad wait until chapter 6 comes out
>>575607072I love kris...
What's that Gorey? You're not interested in younger guys?B-But, you sang to me about how you "get it up for the touch of the younger kind", it's from that Jarona song!
Why is the sound that plays here the same sound that plays when Kris puts the thorn ring in Noelle?Was Asgore raped?
Rouxls saw elnina and lanino getting a plush and decided to show up too. Oh, and there's some flower plushies too or something.
>>575606953
>>575607231By facts and logic
>>575607116https://baraag.net/@Kz_4uler/116675573715072071
>>575606570>>575606759Make kris feel comfortable
Why did everyone decide that the blue soul is blackPeople have been drawing it that way since Undertale and I still don't know why
>>575607223Everybody in Hometown and in the depths...
>>575607072how many times do you dumb fucks need to be told undertale and deltarune have no connection until you get it? did toby mocking one of undertale's biggest and most emotional plot points by turning them all into quirky chungus scrimblos not hammer it in?
>>575607072touchable
>>575607231>Was Asgore raped?Everyone was raped, anon. Gerson raped Dess, so Dess raped Kris, so Asgore raped Dess, so Carol raped Asgore, so Asgore raped Rudy, so Carol raped Asgore, so Asgore raped Rudy (this continues for a while). Then, something no one could predict, Kris raped Noelle. The Kris raped Ralsei off-screen.
>>575607386well, it’s a dark blue
>>575606712Of course they aren't one-to-one because they're still their own people, but they have traits they consciously or subconsciously adopted based on the people around them, or rather the people around Asgore. They were originally a wedding bouquet and we know who was at the wedding based on Asgore's photo. They grew up around Asgore, Toriel, Rudy, Carol, and their respective kids, and that influenced who they are. At least some of them, like Flowery, are also intentionally mimicking Asgore's loved ones from before the incident tore everything apart because they think that would make him happy.
>>575607291How did they sold out Pluey already when it was still preorder
https://files.catbox.moe/wj5cl0.webp
>>575607429>how many times do you dumb fucks need to be told undertale and deltarune have no connection until you get it?What caused this headcanon?
>>575607441THE Soul, protagonist of the hit games UNDERTALE and DELTARUNE...
I don't believe that a single character was raped actually I think you're making things up
>>575607506well they dont sell deltarune themed condomsand pluey is right there
>>575607146Seth would be Asriel since they're the one who's going around getting into hijinx with and/or being endlessly tortured by AquaThe process of elimination puts Green and Orange as Carol and Noelle and since we got that bit of extra information about Noelle bossing Kris around this chapter that seems to be the connection to our bratty little orange princess
>>575607506Because he’s the specialiest cutest kitty
>>575606986Toriel has lived with Kris longer and knows better
>>575607534UNFATHOMABLY BASED
>>575607024>when equipping on noelle, she hesitates to say who it reminds her offBerdly
Did you know the scene of Asgore ignoring the flowers was to represent him as an ultra GIGAChad, ignoring those useless ass flowers?That's why Toby made it super long and unskippable. to show what a chad move it was.
>>575607569Wait a second you're right... You're all just erping aren't you!?
>>575607412Kress shota yuri.....
>>575607459I wonder how much cum that produced
>>575607534>bottom werewerewireextremely rare and powerful image, good shit
>>575607412baby milk looker with the bottle is way too fucking adorable
>>575607732About 50% of it was Asgore's by volume.
How come we're 5 chapters in but we still haven't unlocked the double jump upgrade to access higher ledges earlier in the game to reach new areas and other upgrades?
>>575607072>If UT Kris really was the cyan soul then their life must have been so sad. Falling down when the underground was filled with rage at the humans, alone and scared. They never met Noelle or Suzy, at best only Toriel. They died at the hands of who would have been their adoptive father in another timeline...Super fucked up if true. Tony you sly fox, let Kris be happy at least in Deltarune.
>>575606993>We do not exist in the worldWe overwrite Kris' savefile with our name. We are now in the game.>Kris was in control of themselves until the game startedKris did not save over the savefile with no timer on it. If they ever had, it would have a time on it to show us they've lived 9999.99 hours same as Flowey>This is like saying "well Flowey can't have had time travel powers because then Chara would still be alive."Yes, that's correct. They didn't have time travel powers, that's why things went wrong and they couldn't fix them.>We don't know when Kris got the power to save but it was most likely at the start of the original festival weekWhat does this even mean? I wrote a long thing to disprove this but now I realize I don't even know what timeframe you're talking about or what you think Kris timelooped to change at all
Tell me your thoughts on Gaster.
>>575607729now we're talkin'!
>>575607429you might be stupid
>>575607595Noelle is connected to Orange also because Noelle was the smallest of the group when they were all kids. They both try to hide their true self (Orange with Shadows and Noelle feels like she's just doing a routine of herself) and both are pretty weak without the help of someone (Green/The Soul in the Weird Route)
>>575607631Is thatvwhy she just leaves the pile of kris's menstruation in the corner of they're room
>>575607429
>>575607146People say Flowery = Rudy, Aqua = Kris, Seth = Asriel, Blue = Toriel, Yellow = Asgore, Orange = Undyne and Green = fuckifiknowBut it feels like a huge stretch and it really adds nothing to the story. In fact, it's detrimental to both set of characters because the flowers act extremely bizarrely and they tell us nothing about the lightners they supposedly represent. It makes no sense for Flowery's gang to remind Asgore of his family when the entire DW is themed around escapism. It reduces the flowers to metaphors for characters we already know which goes against the entire idea of them wanting to be their own people with their own goals. And it adds one more thing these flowers represent when they're already also supposed to be incarnations of the human souls. Think of Yellow, according to this theory he's both an incarnation of the Yellow SOUL, a reflection of Asgore's love of cowboy puppet shows, and a parallel to Asgore, all at the same time. Fucker got more meanings than a James Joyce novel.
>>575607841sans is the only connection, dumb fuck
>>575607595but that cutscene flashback puts asriel as green, which sorta makes sense:>Green gets along with everyone; Asriel get's along with everyone, no one has anything bad to say about him.>Green cooks a lot; Asriel is kinda hinted to cook when Noelle says his sleeves smelled like cinnamon.
>>575607724Good fucking ship
>>575598408w-woah...bloooby!...
chapter 5 is the best and most important chapter so far and if you dont get that you don't understand this game period
I love Undertale so much...
>>575607886Yeah no point cleaning it up when Kris will just make a mess again
>>575607013You're literally a /v/tard.
>>575607896bro is just trying to get people to buy the first game lmao. he wants $$$$$$
>>575605551>town made up of monsters who can cast magic >town with a fish strong enough to benchpress cars>town where 5 billion cars manifest out of fucking nowhere >town with invisible noclipping invulnerable ghosts and a teleporting everyman skeletonis it really that crazy to believe that someone is able to create what is essentially an illusion to disorient and kidnap people
Funny how all the abysmally shitty posters all vaporized at the exact same time, down to the minute. No more tranny, /v/, timeloop anti-timeloop, discord or pinkfag posts. All gone. Almost like it's all one person or something. Ok that is the reason. Remember that next time it happens
>>575607842Kris god they're they them pussy fucked by that every night...
>>575607595Seth is not like Asriel at all, though. Process of elimination is a stupid way to do this kind of thing and it really shows how stupid this kind of pattern-matching is. If Toby wanted us to get new info about characters from the flowers and wanted them to match 1:1 to members of the Dreemurr and Holiday families then why isn't there a Dess flower?
>>575607952>[headcanon that also disagrees with your original statement], dumb fuckGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
>>575607819I wonder if Toby would ever let UT Kris and DR Kris meet, even if just in a Deltarune stream for like, the 10th anniversary of Chapter 1.
>>575607819I wanna hug Asgore...
>>575606993>we did not have more determination that Flowey, Frisk did we just controlled FriskWhy isn't Frisk's name on the save file then?
>>575607865Is this the iconic chicken condom post translated in to korean and then with pippins added on top?
>>575607986Thanks Toby very cool!
>>575608062I'm still here I just got tired of hearing that retard whine about transexuals.
>>575607831>They didn't have time travel powers, that's why things went wrong and they couldn't fix themYeah okay youre just a retard, post your screed tho I'm sure it will be entertaining
>>575608062The timepooper posted less than 15 minutes ago.
>>575608062No, I'm still here. I'm just watching my girlfriend play Campaign Evolved.
>>575608062>no more trannyi'm still here!
>>575608064>pussy*her. dess fucked it with a strap
>>575607852And they're both mouse-coded
>>575608073
>>575608095The last time two Kris's met it went bad. One might end up dead.
>>575608073>>575608284Good art
>>575608239t4t?
>>575608239>GirlfriendWHAT?! GET OUT! DELTARUNE FANS HAVE GIRLFRIENDS!
>>575607314thaaats the stuff
>>575608284yeah this artist is goated. she also likes femdom and draws male kris getting bullied by noelle
>>575608168yes
Did Kris really kill Dess?
>>575608337Half of all Deltarune fans are in the same extended polycule and don't even realize it yet.
>Starts samefagging immediatelyHow sad
>>575606993>We do not exist in the world[EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER]>In Undertale we did not have more determination that Flowey, Frisk didWhose name is on the SAVE file, anon?This whole idea about Kris comes from their name being on the empty save file at the start of a fresh game, right? When you do you see Frisk's SAVE file in Undertale?Even ignoring all that, Toby explicitly tied the power to SAVE in Undertale to "the being who has the most Determination in the Underground."It is something that only exists IN the Underground. You don't overwrite Flowey's power to SAVE until you're actually in the Underground.It obviously can't work the same way in Deltarune. And we know that it doesn't, because it's been clear since SURVEY_PROGRAM that our SAVEs are managed as part of our "connection" to the world through Gaster.Kris does not have that privilege.
>>575608223Anon, you are agreeing with me. Flowey had the power to time travel. Chara and Asriel didn't. They shot their shot and fucked it up. Kris had no ability to time travel from being the only human in Hometown, because if they had then they wouldn't have let the "incident" occur. If Kris learned to timeloop afterwards then it's up to you to present evidence to prove it. There is none, because none of the characters act like Kris timelooped and said something they shouldn't know or anything resembling that
>>575608125>Why isn't Frisk's name on the save file then?Good question! We actually still don't know for certain why Chara's name is on the save file and not Frisk's or why we name them and not Frisk despite clearly controlling Frisk. I imagine it's going to play onto bigger reveals about who "the player" is in the context of Undertale and Deltarune. We know the effects saves on time and space and what powers them but there's a lot of "whys" we might never know.
post cropped shotas
>>575608223This will be the Soul at the end of Chapter 7 Side B.
>>575608335Naturally.
>>575607954Since Blue is so blatantly Toriel but the flashback silhouette for Toriel is Perseverance Purple I think the idea is that the flowers' individuality makes them different from the people they based themselves on, or maybe it reflects Asgore's perspective of them as opposed to how they really are
Good day PinKris nation how we feeling today
>>575608484>>575608125Frisk died in the fall
>>575608546HOW ARE THEIR BALLS
it's true! we're all the same poster, but we pose as different people due to timeloop shenanigans. one person playing shadowpuppets with themself.
>>575608360>>575608486
>>575604169Tenna outgrew the old bariatric bed he was renting from Spamton, so Flowery can use it now. It's quite shrimple.
>>575608070>Seth is not like Asriel at all, thoughThey're both emotionally fragile nerds who get bullied by their mischievious young siblings and have an interest in storytelling. Also Susie calls Seth "discount Ralsei"
>>575608602cyot
>>575608530peachy
>>575608125Because our connection is to Chara (File 0) while Frisk's file (9) is hidden.
AND THE MERCY SEAT IS WAITINGAND I THINK MY HEAD IS BURNINGAND IN A WAY I'M YEARNINGTO BE DONEWITH ALL MEASURING OF PROOFOF AN EYE FOR AN EYE AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOHAND ANYWAY I TOLD THE TRUTHAND I'M NOT AFRAID TO DIE
>>575608516prison gays.. how cute!
>>575608593>I may be a pinkposter in another timelineGod no
>>575608443At the end of chapter 6 gaster will send you the name and location of three random other players and you all have to have sex with each other to get access to chapter 7
Kid Dis keally drill Kess?
>>575608652fave is chopped!>>575608726you're also me... and i am you...
>>575607459was kris raping ralsei supposed to happen off screen because it happened when they entered the hot springs together for me…
>>575608070>why isn't there a Dess flower?Pink is the Dess "flower," she's not a real flower but she still pretends to be one specifically by acting like a protective big sister
>>575608486
>>575608070The Dess Flower is Seth.
>>575608790i like it when you can tell a deltarune artist isn't a furry pervert
>>575607412This looks so peaceful
>>575608483>Kris had no ability to time travel from being the only human in Hometown, because if they had then they wouldn't have let the "incident" occurDo we know when Kris attained the power to save and why? They have it, they clearly have it. If their first save and reset point is after the incident how would they travel back before the incident to stop it? You're thinking about how this works incorrectly. Flowey and asriel are the same person, by your logic he can't have had the save powers because he'd be able to go back before he and Chara executed the plan>>575608462>Whose name is on the SAVE file, anon?Chara's. Are you trying to imply that the player is somehow Chara despite the genocide ending?>You don't overwrite Flowey's power to SAVE until you're actually in the Underground.Frisk takes over Flowey's ability to control saves in the underground and we gain control of Frisk at the same time they enter the underground.>SURVEY_PROGRAM that our SAVEs are managed as part of our "connection" to the world through Gaster.I'd love to see the actual evidence for this in the game besides fandom hallucinations
>>575608676Asgore got to fuck this every night
>>575608676
>>575608421We just don't know.We can make a pretty good guess, that yes Kris likely had a lot to do with why Dess disappeared, but we have no concrete answers. Most things we point to (Kris's violent nature, Kris's change of personality after Dessapperance, etc.) can all have alternative explanations. That's why everything is a 'theory' and not an explanation. We just don't know for certain yet.
DESS KILLED KRIS
>>575608062just know that behind all the actual shitposts are people salty they can't contribute and control the thread, this is all they can really do to feel like it
>575597059>>575597235another flowery ship that could be improved by the other person making him fat and grabbing his belly and bullying him
>>575608484>We actually still don't know for certain why Chara's name is on the save file and not Frisk's or why we name them and not Frisk despite clearly controlling FriskYeah it's a big mystery why we name the person controlling Frisk "Chara" and why Frisk inherits "Chara"'s memories and why everyone thinks Frisk is uncannily familiar to "Chara" and why "Chara" blatantly identifies themself as "Chara" and says things that only "Chara" would know aboutif you're deliberately obtuse and fucking stupid and not paying attention to anything
>>575608730I hope he doesn't do this because I'm not on that Diddy shit and most Deltarune players are probably too young for me. If he did this with /utg/ posters I might be more open to it.
>>575608546Frisked drowned and will lose their hand theory
>>575608421Unlikely, Kris would be above LV 1 in the light world if they did I think
KESS KRILLED DIS
friends
>>575609014nyoooo...n>>575609017Ideal plapping position
If you blew the Knight up with a bazooka would it die
>>575609014Kris too, but it was more the other way around
>>575609014i dont want to think about asgore fucking kid asriel. now adult asriel on the other hand
>>575608652You can stretch that kind of thinking to fit anyone. Asriel is a guilty catholic boy, not an egocentric nerd who secretly wants to be the leader
Remember to stimulate your flowers!
Sucking carols crotch tits
>>575609014wrongtoriel got to get fucked by that every nightand asgore
>>575604202Yes...YEEEES!!! YOU UNDERSTAND ANON!!!!! You are so right. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.You should post more..>>575604942I like him the way he is>>575607865SO CUTE! Its true!
>>575609218
>>575608676>>575609017boye buttes
>>575608973The power to SAVE in Undertale comes from having the most determination, which is natural to humans. If the rules were the same then Kris would have it from the start. When you say they have to attain it, you are changing the rules that you're porting over from Undertale. At that point you have no argument.>>575608973The name on the first Save file in Undertale is EMPTY, not CHARA.
Confession, I am holding a massive grudge against anyone who claims its obvious that Dess is the knight
>>575608593Why are some iterations of me so transphobic. Im scared. Is this my past, or is it my future?
>>575609254Ouuhhh I love kasriel sm bros....
>>575607842Asriel was so fucking lucky
>>575607724>the heart in their lips>Maddie grabbing Green's tummyThis picture is making me very happy.
>>575609014This reminds me that my first accidental exposure to UT porn was Asgore getting sucked off by Chara and Asriel I don't know if its better or worse than glowing skeledick
>>575609206who have anal sex
I hate the new flower shirt because they made Orange Yellow.
>>575609102>if you're deliberately obtuse and fucking stupid and not paying attention to anythingOkay you should explain what conclusion I should draw for all this and how you know frisk "inherits chara's memories" and how us naming Chara ties into that.
>>575609503It's your flower parallel, who was watered with piss
>>575609492who is the knight
>>575609579Probably worse!
>>575608278Shut up, meg.>>575609463
I love queen
>>575609573HELL YES, FUCK
>>575609573Having a shoe ground on my cock sounds very uncomfortable.
Real talk, why is Kris helping the knight? Hard mode, don't mention being pedophile groomed on amino or Ralsei fetus theory.
>>575609064>>575597059 * whoops>>575607724Grink is cute. Green is very levelheaded and calm to help Mad Mew Mew/Pink mellow out.
>>575609279water them often! not like THAT, silly!... okay, sometimes, as a treat!
>>575609715I look like this
>>575609297yeah
>>575609701ralsei told him no sex once before this and he's doing it to scare him into sex
>>575609701Kris is helping the Knight because Kris promised Dess to sacrifice Susie to the prophecy instead of Noelle
>>575609647It doesnt matter.I'm just pissed that people in the fandom treat others as retards for not subscribing to the Dess knight theory
>>575608530
>>575609102We all agree that Frisk is zombie Chara
>>575609573HOT HOT HOT HOT
>>575609650I mean both are incest
>>575609463My BF laid on top of me a lot when he visited, it was nice>>575609469I've been jorking to shota butte for over 10 years damn
>>575609701He wants what they are doing to happenWhatever that isI don't think we can really speculate too powerfully on what that might be
>>575609506
>>575609701They did a bad thing in the past, working with the knight either makes up for it or helps undo it.
>>575609765Let me suck the thing between your legs.
>>575609503we just get bored sometimes!>>575609715devastating slander... it makes me smile!
Reminder to Krisfags that they have the hots for a character who canonically would throw them in the literal trash the moment they "wish to be alone". Battered spouse mindset.
>LISTEN WELL TO MY STORY.>ONCE UPON A TIME, THE WHOLE WORLD LOOKED LIKE THIS.>WELL, THE WORLD CHANGED. SOCIETY WAS DEVELOPED.>THE EARTH WAS COVERED IN WATER, DINOSAURS APPEARED, AN ICE AGE,>HM... ACTUALLY, THERE ARE STILL DINOSAURS... IS IT MIXED UP?>IN ANY CASE, THIS ISLAND IS THE ONLY PLACE LEFT I CAN TALK.>DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING?Well? Do you?
>>575609869i hate incestslop.
>>575609826I don't. That's retarded. Frisk is the 8th human to fall down, unrelated to the previous 7. They represent a new future. Chara only exists as a curse/ghost and a weak one at that
>>575609701I am near certain it somehow relates to saving Dess. The Knight might've existed before the first fountain, but maybe Dess and the Knight somehow merged? Or perhaps the Knight is helping Kris to save Dess?
>>575609913have some self-respect
>>575609921That's the appeal?
>>575609921the krisfags here all imagine kris as a quirky permanently raped girl i mean theyfab with a pussy so this doesn't really make sense
>>575609959Why are you even playing deltarune then?
>thrown into dark world>meet idealized recreation of your college fuckbuddy >he's actively begging for it, spending every moment he can pampering you>DON'T have sex with himWhat the fuck was Asgore's problem? is he straight or something? I would have been in that shit like a spelunker.
>>575610043I have the self-respect necessary to advocate for my own sexual interests.
>>575609939Who are you again? I feel like I know you but I can't remember your name...
>>575603672I am sorry Aqua friends... I promised to draw a sexy Aqua a few threads back, but I am but a regular JC chud
>>575609765don't listen to that other anon! let ME do it!
>>575609939Yeah there was a Deltarune before Gaster came around.
>>575609921Im used to that>>575609869I wish I had a older bishie b[rother]f to molest me sobsobsob
>>575610083there is no incestslop in the game, which is a game for children. you are fisgusting and toby would hate you.
>>575609921I don't want to have sex with Kris. Kris is an intensely loyal person willing to die for others but unwilling to live for them. That's the problem we'll face going into the ending and why they need to be rescued
I’m fisgusting and proud of it!
>>575609491>The power to SAVE in Undertale comes from having the most determination, which is natural to humansClearly it's not just having high DT that matters or else Chara and the other 6 humans wouldn't have died. If having DT is enough does every human on the surface have the power to save or something? What I'm saying there has to be a currently unknown other factor that creates the conditions for saving to exist, it can't just be a relatively high DT in a contained or else the other humans would've almost certainly had the power before Flowey. At some point something in Kris or the world changed and they got the power and I don't think it'd at all outlandish to say that >The name on the first Save file in Undertale is EMPTY, not CHARAYes retard what I'm saying is that frisks name is not on the saves or in the menus. Frisk does not have a save because they haven't been to the underground before and when we make a save the name is whatever you input for chara's name, who we are not and we don't control. Kris does in fact have a safe at the start of chapter 1 if you don't have completion data
>>575609921I don't get it anon, is this supposed to be a drawback?
>>575609843
>>575609921i just like sad gay people
>>575609921WR Krisoul is hot because Kris is the permanent battered housewife.
Is there anything worst that having a high libido and being a awkward virgin
>>575610218Wtf persona 3 confirmed
>>575610150my brothers are all kinda fisgusting weirdos, so my brocon fantasies are purely based around an "ideal" older brother figure (who molests me on the reg).
>>575610353Getting all your skin burnt off with fire
>>575610353an unwanted pregnancy
>>575608973>Do we know when Kris attained the power to saveKris doesn't have the power to SAVE. Their "save file" is empty with no playtime or location to indicate that they have ever saved. Their name is on the SAVE file as a placeholder to be immediately overwritten when you actually save the game as a visual demonstration of you taking control.Their name only appears on a fresh file. If you save over them and start another file, then the initial save file is properly "[EMPTY]." If you start from Chapter 2 you see this screen, which is complete nonsense for any explanation but "Kris" being a placeholder.>Are you trying to imply that the player is somehow CharaThat is what follows from the argument that you are making. You have to explain that, not me.>at the same time they enter the underground.Yes, as I said, the power to SAVE is something tied to the Underground in Undertale. If it extended to the surface, with Frisk and countless other humans on the surface, then Flowey would have already lost it or never had it at all.>I'd love to see the actual evidence for this in the gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj33L0F_-bISee also: the voice prompting you to continue when you get a game over, and creating a checkpoint when you reload at The Knight fight.
>575610136i just feel bad
>>575609740Nailed it. Pink/Maddie works great with chill characters and Green is so cute as a motherly chubby girl. I am not gonna bitch about how rare it is, rather I'm glad art of it exists at all.
>>575609276>Asriel is a guilty catholic boy, not an egocentric nerd who secretly wants to be the leaderAsriel contains multitudes, you're focusing on that one Alvin story over stuff like him making his own shitty video game where his gaudy OC is the final boss and fucking up his Angel doll by trying to give it giant Hyperdeath wings. Even if he's not Flowey, he's still the type of person with the potential to become Flowey, so don't be surprised when he turns out to be a little egotistical and chuuni like Seth (and Berdly)
>people already complaining blue in the new fangamer shirt is whitewashedmy fucking sides
>>575610405Yo dude same
>>575610095Asgore is stupid
>>575610234They didn't have the most determination. We do because we're gamers. Frisk didn't and doesn't without us. The other 6 humans had less determination than FloweyIf there is an unknown factor then you can't prove it's something in common between Undertale and Deltarune. Flowey did nothing special other than be created, btw. Your argument is fucked forever now.
>>575610394ackshually that's Shirou from Fate
>>575610353i'll help you out, anon! but you HAVE to put on the seth cosplay.
is papyrus racist for turning frisk blue
>>575610459green is enby you dumb chud. play the game
>>575610157>toby would hate you.you mean this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOJwB80oCWk guy?
>>575610632https://youtu.be/U80ilsvFqY8
Hugging session with fave
>>575610353Flowery>>575610434Ralsei's response
>>575610576Diamond gif
>>575610434>>575610445damn ok
>>575609701Kris wants the same thing the Knight wants, or at least they did before they started this and it's too late to back out now
>>575610469Asriel is not present for a flower to copy him, and everyone in his family knows him better than to create Seth in his image. Your entire theory is dogshit
>>575610836Sex
>>575610234>If having DT is enough does every human on the surface have the power to save or something?saving is only possible in the underground secondary.
>>575610836Loli Krissy.
>>575610836This is what Dess saw looking down at Kris. Can you really blame her for what she did?
I bet Flowery's pit stink smells like those nasty ornamental pear blossoms
>>575610827please understand that people who liked chapter 5 are realizing that it’s actually pretty dogshit and making up things that dont exist to justify their initial opinion
>>575610445haha imagine if the father was a shota and you kept having bareback sex with him because he wasn't old enough to cum but now he is and uh oh
>>575609701Kris wants the roaring because they hate their life but now that they have friends they kind of don't want it anymore
>>575610616do you have peen or vag i never been penetrated before...
>>575609981Sorry, but we all agreed that Frisk is zombie Chara. You should have raised these objections at the meeting. It's too late now.
each flower duo represents a relationship between an aspect of kris and another character>Yellow and Blue are an older Kris w/ the holidays, being easily swayed based on promises and "justice".>Aqua and Seth are a young Kris and Asriel.>Orange and Green is The Player/Soul (counts as an aspect of kris)(assc. with mice) and Gaster
>>575610218All the narrative setup with Kris seems like it's setup for a tragic death = redemption type shit. Even the name Kris(Christ) parallels this. If Toby is the big trope subverter writer, I want him to subvert this one. Death is the easy way out for Kris. Living is the hard part.
I thought timeloop anon's timeloop theory was the most retarded shit ever. Now I see his other ideas, it's his best work yet!
I still think Castle town is the result of the Depths' dark fountain bleeding through the janitor closet's drain and it probably why Ralsei is able to traverse around so easily.
>>575610949you mean the Bradford/Callery pear blossom trees that smell like semen nd rotting fish in spring? Wouldnt that be more like his crotch smell?
>>575610714he literally says incest is wrong and gross in the middle of this song thoughgh
>>575610736i would never let go!>>575610949it would smell like honeysuckle!>>575610984oh! i love the "make stuff up about people for no reason" game!>>575611068it's probably not hard to guess!
>>575609632>how you know frisk "inherits chara's memories"At several points throughout Undertale, you get flashbacks of Chara's memories, Asgore and Asriel talking to themEvery time you die in Undertale, you hear Asgore trying to encourage Chara on their deathbedAt the end of True Pacifist, as directly confirmed by Toby Fox in the 10th anniversary stream, the "one last person to save" is Chara.Chara is present with Frisk throughout the entire game, not just Genocide, from start to finish.Frisk falls down onto their grave, marked by the golden flowers that stuck to their corpse which Toriel buried there, at the start of the game. Chara "woke up" in response to "your power," your DETERMINATION. And your "calling their name," when you Named the Fallen Human.>Thank you. Your power awakenedme from death.>My "human soul." My "determination.">They were not mine, but YOURS.None of this is speculation. All of this is textual.
Imagine living with fem asgore and you have to get a job to save asgore mommy from becoming homeless
>>575611028kys pedo
>>575610984The chapter is great and would be worse if these shit theories were correct. The emotional draw of the story is that the flowers are individuals with dreams of their own. Green wants to taste food and make food for others, not represent a figment of whoever a retard Deltarune fan thinks might fit the green color or the food theme or whatever else. The Human Souls from Undertale are now the 7 Flowers, original characters.
>>575610453>Their name only appears on a fresh filethat's a lot of words to say "okay you're right Kris has a save file" ty>That is what follows from the argument that you are makingGo back and reread my posts asshole, I said from the beginning that the player is not Chara or frisk. I don't know why the player names Chara, nobody does there is not enough information to meaningfully determine that>If it extended to the surface, with Frisk and countless other humans on the surfaceOkay so do you think time is moving linearly on the surface but is controlled by Flowey and Frisk in the underground? Is time passing by while Flowey and Frisk fuck around with the possibilities?>See also: the voiceWow it's fucking nothing, big surprise. Can you explain to me why the voice existing excludes the save rules from existing? How does somebody else manipulate time for us stop saves from being time manipulation?
>>575611137kris losing their hand and not dying would probably be the most grim outcome, death would be very lame
https://file.garden/aXgSeTR2YAQ6kCpl/25
>>575611179He doesn't wash his jaronussy...
>>575611286If fem Asgore let me creampie her everyday I think I would put up with it, at least for a while.
>>575611248>! holy shit you are one obnoxious loser
>>575609701Because the Knight is Dess and Kris killed Dess, duh
>>575610136cute!!
>>575611248uuuuh vag?
>>575611398Nta but I also love exclamation points so fuck you
>>575611360>dolphin porn link
>>575611072I piloted Frisk. My determination saved the day. Chara is some retarded character from a route I didn't play
>>575610234>What I'm saying there has to be a currently unknown other factor that creates the conditions for saving to existThere isn't.
>>575611329>The chapter is greatkek>The emotional draw of the story is that the flowers are individuals with dreams of their own.KEK>Green wants to taste food and make food for others,KEKKKKKKKKKK
Did you know?In Japan Deltarune is known as Toby Toby Panic
>>575611398You! Are! A! Faggot!
>>575611398he thinks that !'s at the end of every sentence make him look bubbly and feminine
>>575611398i'm joyous and whimsical! you should try it some time.>>575611438no!>>575611481:)
>>575611249NTA but I don't care about your Undertale headcanons I want to hear you articulate a timeline for Kris. Your full timeline that goes all the way up to when we take control.
>>575611329But who did Green observe or hear about to get that dream from
>the flowers already have more merch than QueenI thought you guys said they weren't popular though. Flowery plush within 6 months, I guarantee it...
I present my 3 hour long Deltarune Theory video!Job application? Resume?uuhmm... C-can I do that later?
>>575611608wrong!!! i just want my tone to be properly carried across. i'm happy to be here! aren't you?
>>575611528>>>/vg/drg
Hahaha imagine being asriel and having bareback sex with asgore imagine asgore taking you to the shower and telling you he had white pee stuck in his wiener and he asks you to suck it out for him and after several minutes of having a fat cock in you're mouth you get shot with white sticky goodn3ss and you get head patted loved and hugged and you were able yo have a nice warm shower with the man you love the most in life im straight btw dunno if that matters
>>575604794Frisk getting along with the creepy cousins is adorable. They're like his cool older siblings.
>>575611619alright whats ur bodycount are bald? if you arent ugly i guess we could....
>>575610827>Asriel is not present for a flower to copy himAnon, the flowers are older than Asriel. Do you think Asriel was away at college for his entire life?
>>575611324the thread's full of cunnyposters and i'm the one you single out
>>575611706The dream came from observing the happiness of others. Flowers cannot taste things, thats why its an interesting dream for one to have the desire to taste wonderful food.
>>575611735Wrong.Flowery dakimakura.
>>575611893not everyone who posts aqua wants to lick her cunny...
>>575611587You aren't the real Anon, you're a- aw- you're a homosexual!You are a man's plaything!
Gerson was better than any flower
>>575611234Madmuffet? In this day and age??
>>575611080>Orange and Green is The Player/Soul (counts as an aspect of kris)(assc. with mice) and GasterI believe this
>>575611874
>>575611692>I don't care about your Undertale headcanonsEvery single line of text in that post is canon information directly sourced from Undertale or Toby Fox's text-to-speech mouth.>articulate a timeline for Kris. Your full timeline that goes all the way up to when we take control.How the fuck am I supposed to know?
>>575611950If there is going to be a dakimakura it will be a Pink/Maddie double sided one for 72 dollars.
>>575611852honestly, truthfully? it's somewhere upwards of 20. i lost count! full head of hair, dark brown with blonde highlights, a little past my chest, fairly wavy.
DRAWFAG WANT DRAW!!!! Give me requests
>>575611706So you admit there's a Green without anyone else being there before? That Green is a 20+ year old flower with their own interiority and ability to learn, who then interpreted the world and had a dream of living in it as something more than a flower? That's all. I don't care if you think the flowers cribbed their style from the homeless people Asgore sucks off on the dl for tips on where Dess might've gone. As long as you admit they have minds of their own. Flowery says Jarona because he heard Asgore's favorite songs, not because that's Rudy's genetic catchphrase and he got it darkner style from a toenail clipping in his flowerpot
>>575610921Yes but WHY we don't know WHY. If it's just the barrier then WHY do only Flowey and Frisk have the power?>>575611249>At several points throughout Undertale, you get flashbacks of Chara's memories, Asgore and Asriel talking to themI don't even disagree necessarily with this interpretation but again my point is the whys, we don't know the whys. Why does Chara "wake up" why do we get the option to name them?>YOUR determinationI interpret the genocide endings as Chara talking to Frisk at first. The soul belongs to Frisk after all, not us.
>>575611742i'm doing a job application right fuarking now and i'd make a theory video in my spare time if my voice didn't sound like a cat being deflated
>>575611527Sometimes I need to be reminded that this fucker dog knows exactly what the story and the plot points are beneath all the vague posting and flowery (pun unintended) dialogue
>>575612139>full head of hair>fucked 20 people, likely all trannies i susie laughed
>>575612059
>>575612152very cute pic. flowey and frisk riding a bike together?
>>575611852NTA but I'm bald as fuck and look like Rich Evans and I still have a healthy sex life, some of you guys put too much importance on physical attractiveness and neglect actual hygiene or personality.
>>575611921It's criminal this line is optional and easy to miss. To me it nails just how valuable Asgore was to the community even after his 'failure.'
>can the retardKEK>who talks like thisKEKKKK>kill himself alreadyKEKKKKKKKKKKK
>>575612127You were just telling me that Kris might have gotten the power to SAVE at the "original festival" whatever that means. Talk about that. When did Kris get it and why didn't they use it to do anything?
>>575611692Anon we were TALKING about the CHARA stuff if you're gonna represent the League of Extraordinary Timepoopers then do it RIGHT
I had a dream that 4chan did a theme gimmick where there was water in the background of every thread and the closer it was to bump limit, the higher the water would riseAt bump limit, instead of rising, the water would get darker like you're sinking deeperI remember anons making Pirate Gaster jokes because of this
>>575612152Loli Kris pretty plz.
>>575612152flowery playing a concertina
>>575612179You don't think Aqua reflects Kris at all in any way?
>>575610827Yeah Seth is completely different than Asriel. You see Asriel is a glasses wearing nerd with a younger sibling with a penchant for mischief and fondness for blades and Seth is...
>>575611715Too much sun...
>>575612246susie's laugh is cute!
>>575612139nvm thats a huge turn off>>575612280not into older men
>>575612303Yeah some of the best lines this chapter are missable, Toby just casually tossing out gems and putting them in places most of the audience wont see. I havent seen a single streamer/lets player get that dialogue. Just makes it more precious I suppose.
>>575612312Who are you talking to
>>575612183Chara is talking to the same person in the post-Genocide ending that Flowey is talking to post-Pacifist ending
>>575612152aqua dicing celery
>>575612152seth curled up in a blanket with a mug of cocoa!
>>575612371>go ahead janny, tell me the words>tell me the words i've been waiting to hear> <3 I do it for free
>>575612453I wasnt coming onto you bro
>>575611360whut
>>575612152jevil kissing queen
>>575612256real ones saw the attitude in the first statement
>>575603537If this was the Vessel and Noelle and Spamton was there with like an ammo kit it would be accurate to the weird route
>>575612340>You were just telling me that Kris might have gotten the power to SAVE at the "original festival"I think you got your reply chains mixed up
how do people manage to socialize enough to fuck over 20 peopleor manage the risk of stds
i wish i could draw….
Shawn is gonna be so fucking pissed in chapter 6 if you don't get the final shadow crystal. He's so certain you'll easily get it in chapter 5
>>575612616I was talking in general retard
>>575612356I'm not pro timepoop though. I'm the imaginary friend of the anti-timepooper. The time up-your-pooper-goes-the-poop-er
>>575612746I mean its not like you have to fuck 20 people in one year. Just dont spend all your time on 4chan.
>>575612340>anon lost the plot so hard he's asking the anon replying to me for my takes Basically Kris has to have gotten the power to save at some point after the incident, as early as Asriel leaving for this semester and as recently as the first day of the adventure. Kris has lived the events of the festival week countless times, much like how flowey lived out countless timelines between his rebirth and Frisk arriving. Why did Kris get the save powers when they did? We can't know yet. However, it's incredibly likely that Kris had the powers for a good while before the player intervened.
>>575612795>After allat you jobbed to Tokyo Mew Mew? Fucking seriously?
>>575611921>>575612303This dialogue is really good sentimentally but I'm also deeply intrigued by the implication that other humans have also passed through Asgore's shop
>>575612549Well no that doesn't make sense, Flowey is talking to Chara, Chara isn't talking to Chara that doesn't make sense.
>>575612795Speaking of Sean Bean, why do they say something like "there's no saving a darkner like me", how can a darkner made out of a plush toy be in a state of dying?
You have to fuck 20 people in 1 second
>>575612746It's real easy when you make up shit on 4chan.How cool of them to take a break from getting laid and being sexy to make time to be annoying to people on the internet every single day for hours at a time.
>>575612746no standards and/or a desperation to feel desirable. or you know they’re just attractive and charismatic but there’s no way we have fuckable chads posting here in /utg/, it’s all just fugs with wasted bodies
>>575605365Berdly is the bestHe is the bombHe almost exploded into pieces from the snowgraveEvery time Susie says something really rudeBerdly really likes it tooBerdly is the bossHe is better than Kris DreemurrKris is retardedEven though he's still awesomeBerdly's awesomeHe does fightAnd then spear slices Ralsei in halfYou better know that Berdly is the awesomestYeahHe does homework and wins the spelling beeYeahAnd then you know that he's ggggggggay
>>575612836You replied to the wrong guy AND you for scatalogical, classic ATS
are the flowers roses or daisies or what
>>575612391Aqua mimics Kris by accident as a parallel to how Flowery mimics Rudy, Asriel and Toriel on purpose. Flowery doesn't mimic Kris and this is important. Aqua is not made out of magical darkner juice from a toenail, she existed before Kris ever did and if anything Kris' magical ability to talk to flowers made canon by this chapter made Kris more like Aqua than the other way around>>575612425I guess that means Ralsei is Asriel. Case closed
>>575612946They're both talking to the person who has, or had, the power to reset everything. That's what both of their dialogues are about.
>>575612973The website that thinks college is a scam is also baffled by the concept of bonding with others via socializing
>>575613071YEAH!!! SING THAT SHIT!!!!!
>>575612837that's still like one person a year from age 15 to 25i'm older than that and my body count is at a solid one
goodnight chat
>>575612856>you beat the knight and lost to the goddamn bpd tranny?>are you fucking for real?
Timepoop is the first and therefore funniest chapter 5 newfag.
>>575613157Yes Ralsei is clearly connected to Asriel in some way. His name is an anagram, are you really going to argue this?
I'm Penisy. Penisy the Penis.
>>575603537/drg/ was better
>>575612854>Kris has lived the events of the festival week countless times, much like how flowey lived out countless timelinesThen why is Flowey's playtime 9999:99 and Kris's playtime is 0:00
>>575612956mysterious cat says mysterious things for mysterious reasons
How are people genuinely so autistic that they believe the flowers can't represent other characters at all because they aren't literally the charactersIs it some bizarre extension of "the curtains are fucking blue" thinking that makes them allergic to anything in a story having connections beyond the surface level
>having sex with 20 people over your entire life is an unfathomable concept to /utg/You people are all either very young or absolute hogs.
>>575613317jarona
>>575613159Chara. Chara's name is on the save/load menu.And Chara erases the world at the end of the genocide route regardless of what whoever Chara is talking to wants.That's Chara's power.
>>575613159>>575612946>>575611249Man, this Chara Frisk Soul bullshit is so convoluted I'm begging Toby will write something actually understandable and not riddled with interpretation with Kris and the Soul.
>>5756127461. i usually meet people through shared hobbies!2. i take precautions!>>575612973i work one of those "fake" jobs where i get paid to do one, maybe two hours of work and spend the rest of my time dicking around. i can post here on the clock! it's comfy!>>575613048a positive attitude makes a huge difference!
>>575612854OH you meant the festival week we're playing. You're retarded then. Kris doesn't do anything that matches the description of a timelooper's actions and doesn't remember what we do either. Flowey remembered our saving and loading. Kris doesn't. Kris never had the power
>>575613317Post it then
>>575613395If you do not understand the dynamic between Kris and (you), you are retarded.
>>575613382Just makes you a whore, simple
I only have sex with fave because I'm not a whore
>>575612946Flowey isn't "talking to Chara" he is calling (You) Chara either because he still truly believes (You) are Chara or he's just cheekily referring to you as Chara because that's the name on the save.>>575613159I guess the middle ground would be that Chara is talking to us in the void and bargaining with us over Frisk's soul because we still have control over Frisk even there
>>575612854"A parallel story to Undertale" doesn't mean copying the plot to Undertale 1:1What would even be the point
i am such a chud i cant imagine myself having sex
>>575613382actually, only over the past 3½ years. before then, i was a kissless handholdless virgin loser.>>575613608i wish...!
>>575613271Yes? Kris directly contradicts Susie for thinking Ralsei looks like Asriel. Ralsei is not Asriel, he's Asriel's brother if Asriel had had a brother instead of a Kris and Kris had been born a brother instead of a Kris. The anagram is because that's another name that comes from Asgore and Toriel, fitting the family's naming tradition
>>575613621Flowey litteraly names Chara
why did god put cyanide in the middle of apple cores
>>575613575Gender affirming
>>575611360Is this also a remix?
>>575612746It's easy to have lots of sex the moment you have a partner, like you'd be getting half of the rice purity checklist done. How someone has sex with over 20 people out of university? I dunno maybe you and your partner are freaky or you hang out in those BDSM clubs.>>575612973>How cool of them to take a break from getting laid and being sexy to make time to be annoying to people on the internetThis is me but unironically
I thought we were through the era of "CHARA IS IMPORTANT" theorizing
>>575613728so we could write poetry and metaphors involving apples
Asgore isn't reflected in any of the flowers. He's just a guy who obsesses over punishing evildoers and bringing justice, ends up harming himself through his obsession with justice, and blames himself for things out of his control. Nobody in the flowers at ALL is like that.
>>575613382ugly trannies have a lot of bad sex with other ugly trannies what else is new
>>575613728Cyanide is in a lot of shit because of how simple it is.
>>575613858Chara is not important for Deltarune (thank the Angel)
>>575613728>can't handle a little spice with your food Wuss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jKEa_yjmSg
>>575613330>Then why is Flowey's playtime 9999:99 and Kris's playtime is 0:00We don't know! I've been very consistent on that. Either way Kris still had a save for us to overwrite with our name which means they made one at some point. When frisk gets to the underground they do not have a save there is no point where the save files in Undertale will say frisk unless you edit your file or play hard mode>>575613436>OH you meant the festival week we're playingYes how do you think time travel works?>doesn't remember what we do eitherRight of course, the notoriously talkative and open Kris never goes "aw jeez you're picking Shit Squad AGAIN?" you got me. Brilliant counter evidence.
who is the person in the code who says GREETINGS we know its not FRIEND
>>575613357The only flower who explicitly has parallels drawn between them and another specific Lightner is Aqua to Kris. This parallel is not subtle whatsoever, it's the basis for her entire boss fight. But even Aqua isn't just an imitation of Kris, she's her own person too.There's no strong evidence that the other flowers are paralleling any other Lightners in the same way. The flowers don't need to represent specific people in Asgore's life for his treatment of them to reflect on how Asgore did treat the people close to him as a consequence of his obsession.
speaking of apples and deltarune i just realized that weird route could be another bible metaphor if you squint kind of hard. noelle is eve and kris is adam and were the fruit of knowledge and hometown is the garden of eden
i only relate to kris and maddy because they're both not full people
>>575613973Anon, if Kris could remember the loops they would react differently to what we do. They would not be scared of the sword route pixel Kris swinging their sword around, for example. They wouldn't be startled by people the second time around. It would be part of the game. Kris cannot remember, because Kris never had the power
>>575613994From the demon files? Maybe gaster, maybe the demon Kris summoned, maybe something else entirely
>>575613724>Ralsei is not AsrielYou keep saying this but i've never said that Seth or Ralsei are 1 to 1 copies of Asriel. That's stupid but their forms and personalities are both clearly partially influenced by Asriel while still being distinct beings of their own.
>>575614127gaster only speaks in all caps
>>575613994Do we though
>>575614034I want to see Kris laugh like that too...
>>575613851I think covid zoomers legitimately have no concept of socializing offline and are resentful their prime youthful years were lost.
i wish i had a dick all i got this useless vagina
>>575612956IIRC correctly their exact words are "Neither light nor dark hold a future for a Darkner in my condition" which I think is just Seam's way of saying that they don't really give a fuck about what happens anymore, because they've been disillusioned with reality in a similar way to Jevil and Spamton
>>575614034But there's nothing special about Aqua compared to the other flowers that justifies the parallel with Kris having any greater importance. I agree it exists, I just don't think it's very important
>>575614146Nope, they aren't. Seth is based on Seth, the videogame character that Seth stole the name from.
>>575614217I can think of a way to make your vagina useful...
>>575614217get a strap!
>>575614217you can use mine if you want I'm not getting much use out of it
>>575614034>There's no strong evidence that the other flowers are paralleling any other Lightners in the same way.True, it's not like there's any flower character who's scared of everything and has to call her big sister to stop people from bullying her. That would be pretty obvious if there was one.
>>575603672>>575612265Thank you anon! Good request.. I love the alarm clock dialogue so much. I always like seeing them with their bike <3 I was happy to draw it too.. Even though I have never drawn a bike before.. So it might look a little weird..
>>575613901>y-you're only having a lot of sex because you're a HIDEOUS TRANNYfunniest incel cope
>>575614117>They would not be scared of the sword route pixel Kris swinging their sword around, for exampleThey only get scared if we swing at them, our inputs are not predetermined moron>They wouldn't be startled by people the second time aroundLiterally just Spamton (who Kris has trauma related to) and Susie running back out of the store in chapter 5, which may be at the point where things are beginning to change.
>>575613994>Noted to speaks like Chara in Japanesealways bet on john mantle
>>575613157>Aqua is not made out of magical darkner juice from a toenailWhy do you think "this character is a parallel to this other character" means that they must have some kind of tangible relationship that causes the parallel to exist? That's not how parallels work.
>>575611360tony give us more party dojo challenges you fucking hack
>>575613858NAME IS ON THE SAVE FILE!!!
>>575614372doesnt kris go pale when we get unplugged?
why did the knight run into a wall
>>575614368he has a point
>>575614439It's funny how everybody always thinks the next Chapter is the Chapter Rudy finally dies.
>>575614515rudy wasn't feeling very well
/utg/ gender censushttps://strawpoll.com/e2naX2ML0yBhttps://strawpoll.com/e2naX2ML0yBhttps://strawpoll.com/e2naX2ML0yB
>>575614275Yes there is. Aqua is the flower that doesn't have a particular dream at all. The most intuitive and least logical of the lot. She doesn't pay attention to anything. That she accidentally reflects Kris is a sign of that intuition. It shows either she influenced Kris or Kris got her attention in a way nobody else did but in classic Aqua fashion she didn't pay too much attention to that fact
>>575614515Was too drunk on my dick five minutes before the cutscene, sorry.
why isn’t carol real and in my arms? will toby address this?
>>575614185True, but redacted speaks in all lower case, and may or not be related to gaster. I was gonna say egg man also doesn't and people think he's gaster but he actually does do all caps...
>>575607534Based
>>575614318Penetration is scary>>575614328I dont live alone>>575614341Thanks man
>>575614515they thought it was a shortcut to the shelter 9 3/4ths
>>575614515fell from the ladder earlier
>>575614354this is awesome anon, flowey looks so happy. I like how the shading makes it look like theyre riding into the sun, very very cute.
>>575614275Maybe Aqua isn't a flower at all. Maybe she's...something else.
>>575614648>Penetration is scaryIt doesn't have to be scary. If you take it slow, you'll be fine.
>>575614592>no trans optionsGenuinely what are you thinking son
>>575614648surely your housemates aren't such prudes that they can't handle it? and besides, you don't have to tell them!
>>575614347What is Orange scared of? Don't you see you're mixing your starting point and your endpoint? Orange is trying to be brave in a dumb way but that doesn't mean Orange is scared. She's not startled even once in the entire chapter. Toby could've made Orange scream like Noelle if he wanted a direct parallel
>>575613994Wait is that the one that says your faithful servant?Maybe it's the Vessel?
>>575614473Huh? Wydm like when the soul is out for a long time or when or when Susie unplugs the controller in the one version of the sword route ending?
>>575613994>I, your humble servant, will follow you to the utmost>Always at your humble serviceThe fuck you mean it's not Friend?
>>575614619Become the carol you want to be, anon
>>575614516Whatever helps you cope
flower man is unironically toby's best track so far
>>575614515Serious answer: Flowery ragebaited them>You think you can outspeed a Flower!?>Who's this faggot? Of course I can outspeed a flower, I'm the fucking Knight, watch me
>>575614595But she is still just a flower like the other six. She's not even like flowery who has too much meta knowledge for his own good, for whatever reason. There's no good explanation to why she is such a good reflection of Kris if no other flower is a good reflection of anyone else, but as a nice story thing to expand on Kris' character, although inconsequentially
>>575611360rv pine?rv pine is that you?
>>575614763Unnecessary
When Deltarune is done what's Toby going to do for the next 40-50 years of his life?
>>575614592yeah you need to add trans options
>>575614515tried to leaf too soonbut if you actually watch the cutscene you see the knight try to ego flowery, speed up, instantly realize they're gonna hit a wall with an exclamation point, try to slow down, but hit the wall anyway and get stunned for a little bit
>>575614372There's tons of situations where it makes no sense for your theory to be true. You know it now and you will not be able to forget. Call me names if you need to, you lost the argument. Kris does not remember the loops, and if Kris had the power to SAVE from being a human then they would've had it all along. Inventing some requirement to "attain it" makes your argument that it works the same as Undertale invalid because you have to change it to make it work
>>575614807The new mew mew dialogue implies that the cats may not be sapient. If they are capable of higher thought and speech the language is very formal for something described as "not too smart" or however she says it exactly
>>575611380his flowerfupa...
I hope the dumb little keychain sells well and they get started on a full sized Aqua plush
>>575614858and how many of those 20 were cis women?
>>575614742I just dont see the point i never had a orgasm>>575614769i live with my parents son
Every Friend is a BIMBO and a dumbass they are too fucking stupid to write eloquent messages.
>>575614372>They only get scared if we swing at themPLAY THE GAME!!!
>>575615079she's so hot
>>575614390Because that's how some of you fags treat them. Police your side of this debate and I won't need to talk about it in that sense again. Go on, convince them that the flowers had personalities, dreams and interests before the fountain was opened. Half of them think they got them from Asgore's mind so they can justify thinking Green is Carol
Kris watches Solo Leveling and thinks its peak and absolute cinema and aurafarming
>>575614991Susie isn't that smart either, and she can still talk with a reasonable vocabulary
>>575614186FRIENDS are 'not that smart'
>>575615076Do you mean you've never had an orgasm from penetration, or you've just never had an orgasm at all?
>>57561503619 :3
>>575613725He says the name you input for the fallen human. The game is written with the assumption that the player will name the fallen human either their own name or whatever name they tend to use for video game characters. The vessel creation sequence is written the same way, and Chara's monologue about being a demon that embodies the joy of numbers going up in a video game that comes "when you call its name" is also based on this assumption. Chara is a distinct chara-cter, but this is why their name is determined by the player.
>>575615237never had a orgasm desu i never even put fingers there
>>575615079cute tgirl :3
>>575614515>>575614930Flowery ragebaited them into speeding up AND added the wall ahead of them with his meta powers the same way he added the 4-player puzzle near the start of the darkworld. It was a power feat
Fine you dorks. Here it is with trans options.https://strawpoll.com/BJnXV356XZvhttps://strawpoll.com/BJnXV356XZvhttps://strawpoll.com/BJnXV356XZv
>>575615079His booty game is ridiculous.
>>575614805when susie unplugs the controller
Flowery, Green, and Yellow parallel the Dreemurr family by being obese
>>575615324What makes you think having a penis would be any different? It kind of sounds like you just don't like masturbation or (presumably) sex.
>>575614932She is not a good reflection of Kris. She's as good a reflection of Kris as Flowery is of Rudy. The joke is that it's an accident and genuine instead of on purpose and calculated. It's not that deep. Flowery is a terrible Rudy impression. He thinks being Asgore's college buddy means sucking farts out of his asshole
>>575614985>There's tons of situations where it makes no sense for your theory to be trueIn your headcanon versions of events maybe>You know it now and you will not be able to forgetRemember this for when chapter 6 proves me right >lost the argumentYes yes you're not running away it's a tactical retreat I'm sure >Kris does not remember the loops, and if Kris had the power to SAVE from being a human then they would've had it all along.Okay so what's the sword route?>Inventing some requirement to "attain it" makes your argument that it works the same as Undertale invalid because you have to change it to make it workOkay so what was the difference between Flowey/Frisk and Chara/the six humans? Why didnt the latter have the save powers that made them effectively immortal?
>>575615036somewhere around 7 or 8 or so!
>>575615079Why did Toby make her so hot, I love ralsei
>>575615282>Erm ackshully the Chara flowey is refering to is a diffrent Chara from EVERY SINGLE OTHER reference because it is.
>>575615324I thought I had never had one for a while but then I tried a different position and realized I'd been having them for years but they were just more underwhelming than I'd been lead to believe
>>575615324Most of the pleasure centers are on the outside. Just get good
>>575614354reminder that this is canon tho papyrus usually rides the back
>>575615612What? How is that possible? Also, the strength of an orgasm depends a lot on the build-up. You can have much more powerful orgasms in the right situation and mind-set.
>>575605143It irks me so much how his big speech about turning over a new leaf at the end is written like the only problem Asgore had was being too self-absorbed to get over the big mysterious event and pretend that everything's fine like Toriel did."What, you thought Asgore spent years researching this because he wanted to help Dess or to prevent what happened to her from happening to other people? Nah, it's just 'cause he was insecure! Now that he vented about it to his adopted child everthing's better and he can begin to heal and forget about all this nasty shit. Never you mind that there's suddenly all this evidence that something smilar to what happened on That Day may be happening again."
>>575615485i mean no more periods and i would cum easy and i wouldnt be annoyed that i only had orgasms in my dreams
>>575615079cute boy
>>575615612Why is so much of this thread about a mormon retard who doesnt know how to jack off
>>575615076Annoying birds... a recurring theme in Deltaunderrunetale...
desu i dont get women complaining about orgasms, i dont even bother jerking off because males like me barely feel anything in comparison, confined to a dull grey pleasureless lifemy fave would understand
>>575615498I don't really care about your argument but the idea of Flowery fart inflation and even weight gain (since plants breathe in carbon dioxide and convert it to sugar) is arousing
Wonder if asgorefags ever read through entire threads arging about how much of a piece of shit he is and want to end it all
>>575615439Do they? I don't think they do idk maybe I didn't notice them "get paler" but still Kris is tense there. They don't want Susie back there in the first place and mini Kris was just running around with the murder fucker sword of death
>>575615512Nope, accept it. I beat you. I, not the anti timepoop, beat you. The imaginary friend did it, all by themselves. Get fucked, pooper. IN the pooper
Toriel raped Dess and blamed Asgore for it.
>>575615819i have a suggestion.
>>575615498Then why do people keep using Aqua as definitive evidence she literally represents Kris as a child which means Kris was a little girl?
>>575615856H-HE'LL GET HIS BIG HERO MOMENT IN CHAPTER 7
>>575615819stop letting hentai convince you thats how women orgasm its the same for everybody
>>575614275It's not important.It's not unimportant.
>>575615512Timetard shitfit uh oh!!!!
>>575615881im pretty sure they go pale when susie unplugs the controller and mini kris disappears but i might be misremembering
can some drawfag put carol in here
>>575615751I wish we had the tech to give ciswomen actual cocks unless im misinterpreting you which in that case sorry
>>575615885>Nuh uh!!!You little freaks really do put a big fat smile on my stupid yakubinoid face
>>575615498So is Flowery trying to be Asgore's college buddy (Rudy) or not
>>575615934because they want to coom to femkris that’s literally it
>>575615789im not american dude
>>575613357The focus on tacking on symbolism to every major darkner is more autistic and reductive than any theoryfagging involving Gaster. Genuinely what does this "metaphor" add to the story? What does Aqua and Seth being symbolic for Kris and Asriel add? That we get to see the general dynamic of bookish child and mischievous child? Is that really enough to count as some echo of the Dreemurr kids' relationship? Is it interesting or enriching in any way that we get to see such a major element of the backstory through this weird shadow puppet charade? Does it fit that moment of the story to go into an abstract flashback narrated through two completely different characters? Does anything in the dialogue and text reinforce this in a meaningful way like King echoing Susie's words or Noelle solving her mother issues through Queen? (And no, Aqua saying "uuu we look the same" isn't 'meaningful' because it doesn't say anything about WHAT Aqua's presence is saying about Kris). Why does the supposed metaphor completely fall the fuck apart when the other flowers are introduced? It doesn't SAY anything about the characters, it's just "WAAAOWAAAAWW THE DREEMURRS MIGHT HAVE ACTED THE SAME ONCE", like so what? Isn't it more interesting if Asgore is repeating his mistakes with a new family rather than this being all a fuckoff metaphorical totem for the family he already hurt once? I don't see anyone theorizing that Carol is a goofy wine mom because Queen exists, or constantly pestering that SHE'S A METAPHOR, SHE'S A METAPHOR, so what the fuck is everyone's deal with the flowers?
>>575613994It's John Mantle>So don't worry.>You'll make it.>You always do...>... don't you?
>>575616091You are spiritually mormon (ie: retarded and annoying)
>>575615934Because they're stupid. If she were a good reflection of Kris then she'd be an enby goth with carrying extreme guilt and betraying all their friends with a secret master plan. Aqua is just dumb and cute
>>575615751I really don't know what to tell you. The first orgasm is always the hardest. After doing it once, the rest should be easy. If you don't even touch yourself, I don't know what you expect. You probably can cum, you just don't know how to yet.
>>575616039One jax deserves to me mischaracterized and two jax doesn't deserve to be there im trans btw this matters.
*waddles back into beginning of timeloop but gets slightly fatter every time*
>>575615910>>575615992its actually the opposite of hentai logic, women just have more like feely things or whatever theyre called than men do down there, even uncircumcised ones, so i dont even bother, nothing you can do about being born defective
>>575615789>mormonnow you're just saying shit what the fuck are you talking about, shut up
>>575616223Look out guys, the temcord is here.
>>575616039why is Makima there she was literally mega evil forever that's her thing
>>575616223Id play a game with this is the core mechanic
>>575616113>don't see anyone theorizing that Carol is a goofy wine mom because Queen existsSadly anon these theories have existed since chapter 2, that Carol is indeed an alcoholic (I saw it applied to Toriel as well). As recent as this week in fact.
>>575616189thanks
>>575615856If he's your fave for the right reasons then nothing so trivial would matter to you
>>575616039Goomba Fallacy perhaps, but there was a large contingent of the TDAC fandom claiming Ragatha was being treated unfairly because she is a girl and Jax is a boy, but in the end Jax won the Oppression Olympics
>>575616060Yo uare the one going nuh uh, anon. Admit it. You can't make it work if Kris had the power from childhood. You also can't make it work in the actual narrative of the game because Kris has natural reactions to things. Your theory is in the shitter. You can't handle losing, I get it, but it's over
>>575613357Because it's a pointless association game that doesn't add anything to the story. Like saying that every chapter boss is related to a specific chess piece; supposing it's true, what does that tell us? What does it add to your understanding of the story? Nothing at all.
>>575616113>If it doesn't tell me anything about Gaster DEVICE Forgotten Man FRIEND ERAM Roaring Knight it DOESN'T SERVE ANY PURPOSE IN THE STORY
>>575616313shes an innocent angel just like my hero margretthatcher.png
>Please care about tranny circus Please care about tranny circus Please care about tranny circus Please care about tranny circus Please care about tranny circus Please care about tranny circus Please care about tranny circus Please care about tranny circus Please care about tranny circus Please care about tranny circus Please care about tranny circus
>>575616375Ragatha was underwritten and did nothing important in the story, which is a reflex of a woman*** writing her
>>575616019>ask incredibly simple questions>"y you're having a meltie!!! Stfu schizo I'm not mad you are!"Never change ATS
>>575616447Everyone here is too young or stupid to know who that bitch is
>>575616113Yeah anon, I agree 100%. It's crazy how popular this annoying stuff is in the fandom. People really want to draw lines between every point on the page. They don't even notice it ruins the picture
>>575615819I think you just have unusually weak orgasms, some women have that too and most men don'tand/or you are depressed
>>575616437>UOOOOOH, SO DEEP, SO DEEP, IT'S LIKE THE SIBLINGS ARE LIKE THE OTHER SIBLINGS, OOOOOOOH IT'S SO MEDIA LITERATE I'M SUCH A FRICKING HAPPY MEDIA LITERATE KEKOLD BECAUSE I GOT THE METAPHOR UUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
Timepoop schizo thinks getting the last word in means he won.
>>575616039calling female villains misunderstood is doing them a disservice. junko, vriska, makima and saya had no good reason to be evil but their motives are understandable which makes them cool
>>575616529>time pooper posting seething wojaks after several days straight of embarrassing himself publiclyYikes.
>>575616540FNAF and game theory have ruined narrative analysis, people are too obsessed with theories and ignore the story being told and the characters within it. Everything is some tricky puzzle to solve by a dev who is actively lying to you.
>>575616437NTA, but I'm pretty sure it's you fags who are obsessed with those "characters" too
fuuuuuuuaaaaaark kris killed dess
>>575616503>Non-binary people aren't real>But these characters from UT aren't trans because they were non-binary instead of male or female.>>575616534Prime Minister of the United Kingdoms when the Argentina went to take the Island, sometimes called the iron lady (?)I learned this from Sargon of Akkad when I watched him during my early teenage years.
>>575614372>They only get scared if we swing at them, our inputs are not predetermined moronBut Flowey remembers player-determined actions when you reload because he had save powers before. Why wouldn't that also be true for Kris?
>>575616706I think the part where my opponent keeps running away when I ask him to provide evidence means I've won yes>>575616725>YikesTwitter would be that way
>thread status
>>575616638If I say that Kris and Aqua looking the same is intentional will it cause you to die of high blood pressure
>>575616850>Sargonlmao oh man I remember when /polv/ called him and Milo based. Gamergate was so goofy.
>>575616801It's basically canon that Dess groomed Kris and Asgore killed her in retribution.
>>575616801>*Props her up against the 4th wall so she's not visible in a top down perspective*
>>575616730>muh fnafget this through your head: toby LIKES theoryshit. he is actively egging on the theorists with every ARG and patch. just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not very much an intended part of the product
>>575616582nah, i feel pleasure from them but i dont see the point since womens are better and they can do it like 10x in a rowbut its whatever i guess, not my fault i lost the 5050
>>575616638>>>/v/
>>575616113>I don't see anyone theorizing that Carol is a goofy wine mom because Queen exists, or constantly pestering that SHE'S A METAPHOR, SHE'S A METAPHOR, so what the fuck is everyone's deal with the flowers?Bro never heard of universal mother theory.
>>575616885You are unworthy of serious debate, only an idiot would attempt to hold conversation with a known fool.
>>575616503tadc is garbage, genuinely
>>575616976I cant take you retards seriously because you also claim Toby got bullied by twitter into adding friend lore.
>>575616908Does Toriel look like Blue? Aqua and Flowery are the only flowers who look like other people. The pattern doesn't apply to all of them
>>575615737>Also, the strength of an orgasm depends a lot on the build-upThats why. I was usually pretty quick about it. I was masturbating fully clothed using my feet so I don't know about situation and mindset either
>>575614275Aqua is the UT cyan soul and thus Kris was also the UT cyan soul. Simple as.
>>575617101i never said any dumb shit like that.
>>575616930>Gamergate was goofyIs goofy. There are people still fighting the culture war part of Gamergate to this day. They think Gamergate is responsible for the entire modern political ladnscape.
>>575615181Kris's favourite DBZ character is Piccolo
Deltarune will release tomorrow. Change my mind
>>575616294>discordfag projecting while pretending to ignore my earlier reply, despite spending all of his free time here https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/575516448/#575521082Very telling, Doomer. Can you go back to complaining about every fat fetish Deltarune post being made by the same boogeyman (like Temshart has) so I can jerk off to it before you get IP wiped again (like Temstalker/Painterstalker has)?
>>575616039yasu wanted to kill 15 people because of a promise a 9 year old made
>>575617141Kris starts with a knife and a bandage, not a toy knife and a bow. Argument invalid
>>575617139>I was masturbating fully clothed using my feetw-what?
>>575617139>fully clothed using my feetHow? Can you post a drawing (doesn't have to be good) of this, because I don't understand what that would look like.
>>575612373FUCK IM SORRY ANON I MISREAD THIS and i dont usually draw these so it just looks like a chibi anyway fmlDrawfag doubled over clutching head in humiliation
>>575616730FNAFshit is why people make retarded knight theories to try and outsmart Toby, not why people see parallels between characters
im also masturbating right now
>>575617230You think Spamton could tank that spread?
me as well. stroking
>>575616401>>575616113It allows Toby to show us relationships between characters that he can't show us in game. Toby can't show us Asriel and Kris hanging out as kids directly. Instead he uses the characters of Seth and Aqua to show us what that relationship would've been like. How are you this fucking rertarded?
>>5756173425n@f is based! Kill yourself
Oh wow that guy sure is mad about being associated directly with temfag for some reason. Don't want to be friends with him anymore?
>>575617341It's okay they are cyan enough to look like UT Kris.
>>575617342Its the same people
>>575616534/utg/ isnt that stupid, even the ignorant yankees should know Thatcher
>>575616730Gasterslop is literally why game theory got big so it's still toby's fault for putting that shit in undertale
>>575617135Toby gave Blue portraits just so he can do the Toriel side-eye face
Spamton is a good boy btw.He's a sensitive young man like Flowery.
>>575617519I didnt learn about Thatcher until a college history course, our schooling sysyem is an underfunded joke.
>>575615582>EVERY SINGLE OTHER referenceThe battle HUD and save files are referring to the name you input. Flowey only assumes you're Chara right away on the genocide route. On neutral and TP, he doesn't see you as Chara until he gains control over your save file AND gets access to other save files (the numbered save states he loads) which is presumably where he sees that the name on the file is the same as the fallen human's and jumps to the conclusion that you're the same person. He realizes that you're not Chara after you fight him as Asriel, but still uses the save name. Chara themself is saved during the Asriel fight so he wouldn't have any reason to talk to them, and besides, they don't have the ability to reset everything, only you do at that point.
>>575617395>Toby can't show us Asriel and Kris hanging out as kids directly.Yes he fucking can? There is nothing at all stopping him from including a flashback in his story if it's relevant.And this is all a big fat moot point because we don't actually know enough about Asriel to say that he's anything like Seth beyond the extremely superficial parallel of being somewhat enrdy.
>>575617519Anyone with music taste know she's why punks, goths, mods, and other subculture and counter culture groups got popular.
>>575617372>>575617393turning my pages. creasing my spine. uhhh... these aren't good metaphors.
>>575617425You must be 30 or older to post in this thread
>>575616113Aqua being clearly established as a parallel to Kris can maybe inform what Kris was like when they were younger, based on the context we already have about how Kris used to actThis is interesting and enriching information for people who are interested in knowing more about Kris and how they might have changed as a consequence of That Terrible DayIf Aqua represents what Kris was like as a young kid, that could even tell us something about their role in what happened with DessThis clear and undeniable connection between Kris and Aqua does not mean anything whatsoever in regard to the other flowers. It was obvious that the flowers as a whole were meant to parallel the Fallen Humans from Undertale since we saw them in Chapter 1. Aqua represents the light blue Patience SOUL, but the applicability of her traits to Kris makes her unique and notable.The Patience SOUL sharing traits with Kris was something that was already noticed, before being strongly amplified by the 10th anniversary livestream placing Aqua's Knife in a new Deltarune-themed area, and now apparently confirmed to be intentional by the portrayal of Aqua herself.Once again for emphasis, Aqua's connection to Kris does not imply anything whatsoever about the other flowers. After all, they're all supposed to be humans, and Kris is the only human in this story.
>>575617671You are wrong, Asriel wanted to fuck Berdly.
>>575617329Very young age used to grind against arm or seat of chairs but over time developed an advanced form that can be deployed anywhere even on the goOnce got a blister on the top of my foot from doing this in the shower
If Deltarune was peak:>final chapter>Kris killed themselves off screen>we see flashbacks of Kris's childhood and Kris killing Dess by pushing her down the stairs>Noelle makes a speech how Kris wasn't really the greatest person, but a person nonetheless>Noelle hugs and kisses Susie>credits roll
>>575617686Seth coming up with confusing and meaningless masturbation metaphors to prevent people from figuring out what genitals they have.
just farted on my hand and smelled my fingers
>>575617549So every callback is a parallel. How many parallels can I force you to draw based on that now that you've said it I wonder
>I think the character with an older sibling dynamic toward the character you agreed is a Kris parallel might have some parallels to Kris's older brother>YOU LITERALLY THINK MILKLOOKER IS THE KNIGHT!!!!!!!
>fat spammer genuinely upset they got caught rolling deep with the opps
>>575617395BROTHER I DON'T GIVE A SHIT THAT WE SEE "WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP WOULD'VE BEEN LIKE" BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT THE RELATIONSHIP WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE, BECAUSE KRIS IS NOT A JAPANESE GHOST GIRL AND ASRIEL IS NOT THE FUCKING ANGRY VIDEO GAME NERD, WHEN HAS ASRIEL EVER BEEN PORTRAYED AS BOOKISH IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING SERIES? THAT'S FUCKING RIGHT, THE ONLY "SIMILARITY" IS THAT ONE IS THE BIG SIBLING AND THE OTHER IS THE SMALL SIBLING, WHICH NO FUCKING SHIT YOU PRETENTIOUS FUCK.
my beautiful sissy wife…
>>575617748None of the other Flowers act like any Lightner. Yellow doesnt act like Asgore at all, neither does Toriel's personality resemble Blue's. Aqua is just an umineko reference, thats it.
>>575617789Just grinding in to the labia? I was under the impression that the clitoris felt better. I guess grinding against your clitoris like this might be overstimulating, though. I'm a virgin so I'm mostly just guessing off of what I've read. Also, that picture is hotter than I expected.
>>575617671Ok he could stop the plot of the game to show us a flashback that only exists to give a little flavor to Kris and Asriel's sibling relationship but it would be a big waste of time and very weird. It's much simpler to add allusions to that relationship in a way that doesn't interrupt the flow of the game.
I just want to point out the pooper lost and is so assmad about it that he won't reply to those posts anymore. He's scrabbling for some other line of argument to go after because his ass is grass on the Deltarune front. Chara is now the center of his theory
>>575617748Drawing Aqua's dress with embroidered floral patterns would be really clever and cool looking
>>575617920ok
>>575617776Everyone wants to fuck Berdley, so that's not evidence of any Seth-Asriel connection specifically
>>575617342fnaf is really simplei dont get you guysA guy murdered an amount of children at a restaurant he owned. Those children's ghosts/ghost clones possessed robots desperately trying to kill that guy. They do, he possess a robot and then some other guy shows up lights the original murderer guy on fire along side the his own daughter who didn't do anything wrong while heroic music plays.All the lore arguments you hear are just people trying to figure out side details like the names of the dead kids, or what years the kids died in.
Chapter 5 is the Epstein class chapter btw.Yuri, loli and tranny.It's good but it's too sus...
>>575616730Drawing parallels between characters is a normal part of narrative analysis
I came
>>575617797T H A N K Y O U F O R P L A Y I N G M Y D R E A M
>>575617948>None of the other Flowers act like any Lightner.Exactly.>Aqua is just an umineko reference, thats it.Aqua can reference Maria and Kris and Touhou and Jevil all at the same time. These aren't exclusive ideas.
>please care about umineko please care about umineko please care about umineko please care about umineko please care about umineko please care about umineko please care about umineko please care about umineko please care about umineko please care about umineko please care about umineko
>>575617291What are the items that the cyan soul uses in the Omega Flowey again? Oh, knives and bandages.
>>575618064Nah, there are bit that are genuinely confusing and there's the super secret mystery box that never opened
Flowery is Rudy, Frisk, Asriel and Chara in a trenchcoat.
>>575618138>doesn't mention NTR at all>>575618171Awesome man happy for you
>>575618001>Ok he could stop the plot of the game to introduce two flowers that only exists to give a little flavor to Kris and Asriel's sibling relationship but it would be a big waste of time and very weird. It's much simpler to directly show that relationship in a way that doesn't interrupt the flow of the game.
>>575617789fascinating. whatever works, i guess?
>>575617646>The battle HUD and save files are referring to the name you input.EVERY TIME CHARA IS NAMED IN THE GAME IS REFERRING TO THE NAME YOU INPUT RETARD. IT'S ALL THE SAME THING, SO IT'S ALL THE SAME THING!You are so dumb you do not understand X=X let alone 2+2=4
>>575618152Imagining parallels where there are none and insisting you are correct is not.
>>575617864Actually I think the purple guy is the Knight
Bake a new bread, bread baker
>>575617341Based loli Frisk drawing.
>>575618152You don't treat it like a normal part of narrative analysis. You treat it like it's fundamental to the darkworld that everyone in it is a Lightner but concussed and in costume
>>575618219Tobys alt?
>>575617852We have the yellow justice cowboy sheriff man who thinks everything is his fault and becomes self-destructive in the chapter where we find out that Asgore thought everything was his fault and destroyed his life over itThe suicide cowboy is paired up with the maternal and nurturing but also self-assured to the point of causing problems by assuming he's always right and never asking permission who also does Toriel expressionsI think it's crazier to not think that there's an intentional parallel being made here
>>575618001How would it feel to female fave's human representation be an ugly black guy in a tutu
>>575617920>WHEN HAS ASRIEL EVER BEEN PORTRAYED AS BOOKISH IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING SERIES?Don't be surprised when it turns out that Asriel is a big Lord of the Hammer fan, little buddy
>>575618459>>575618459>>575618459baguette
Next you're gonna say Susie beating up Lancer for being a traitor wasn't foreshadowing anything and anyone who thinks it had any deeper implications is a retard
>>575618219At least it's not homestuck, so it's not the worst possible thing.
>>575618258>two flowers that only exists to give a little flavor to Kris and Asriel's sibling relationshipThis is stupid because the flowers are also the antagonists of the chapter so they have a purpose outside of the Kris/Asriel parallels.
>>575618225>there's the super secret mystery box that never opened>A child dreamed of a box that is never opened>This means fanf is complicated
>>575618138Susie is spiritually Asriel
>>575618224Where's the four leaf clover?
>>575612595I thought about having them be reading a book at first, but then thought the pose maybe works better without it.. So they are just having a rest <3
LET'S FORGET EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN TOLD ABOUT KRIS, THAT THEY'RE MOROSE AND PRANK PEOPLE ON PURPOSE AND DO NOT TALK LIKE A GODDAMN SPERG, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE FUCKING AQUA THE CUMRAG FLOWER AND SHE'S A FRICKING HECKING ADHD GOBLIN ENERGY CHARACTER AND I WISH KRIS WAS LIKE THAT AS A CHILD BECAUSE THAT MAKES MY DICK HARD SO NOW I'M GONNA PRETEND TOBY DECIDED THE GAME BECAME SILENT HILL 2 ON CHAPTER FUCKING FIVE SO I CAN PROJECT THE PERSONALITY I WANT ON THE CHARACTER, I'M SUCH A MEDIA LITERATE KEK OH MY FUCKING ANGEL
>>575618385>You don't treat it like a normal part of narrative analysis.Yes I do>You treat it like it's fundamental to the darkworld that everyone in it is a Lightner but concussed and in costumeNo I don't
>>575618602Chill
>>575618001>it would be a big waste of time and very weird.Toby has actually mindbroken people into believing that showing us something is a "weird waste of time"I shouldnt even have to point to an example of using flashbacks without being a "very weird waste of time", but how about you look at the game toby is directly lifting gaster's song from, Final Fantasy 7. That has flashbacks of Cloud and Tifa as children talking and hanging out to show how they changed as they grew up, how their relationship was before the actual events of the game, and helps explain other important details like why Cloud was in the army at all in the first place.Surprise surprise, most stories arent so fucking esoteric with their details and do just fine explaining it you as things go
>>575618502Yeah, and a flashback would also have purpose beyond just showing what Kris and Asriel's relationship was like. Purpose like, for instance, clueing us in on the events of That Awful Day. You are beyond stupid if you cannot see that.
>>575618541>According to Scott Cawthon, this was intended to be opened at this time, however it was scrapped as the fanbase failed to solve FNaF 4 in time.
>>575618642I will thanks for the advice :)
>>575618549That's the yellow soul.
>>575618482The chain of command is Diddyneko/Diddyronpa/other VN autism >>> Homestuck > MLP > TADC
>>575617970I guess it's mostly clitoris but there's some amount of pressure on both. If it's just clitoris it feels a bit incomplete, I honestly might've just pavloved myself from doing this for years though.. Mostly come at it from sort of a side-angle so that it's not overstimulating. >Also, that picture is hotter than I expected.Haha, I'm weirdly glad to hear that, I mostly just feel like a freak for doing it
>>575618602Actually all the other Chapters have had darkners that are parallels to lighters. In Chapter 1 the Kris parallel was Lancer.
>>575618416You are confused because you don't understand what these characters are. These characters are Asgore's children. He raised them and cared for them for 20+ years. Yellow wants to be "a justice" because he wants to be like Asgore. He feels guilty because that's what a justice does. Blue believes so strongly in integrity because that's what he got from Asgore's stories. They are not super secret ghost double phantasm versions of lightners
>>575617473Wasn't Temstalker mutual buttbuddies with your favorite "interesting" poster Kraut, at least until I brought up the whole baby rape porn thing Kraut saved and posted?Read what I posted again, unless your reading comprehension is as low as that of the infants Kraut is attracted to. Also, whoever took the screenshot of the shitcord I popped into (mind you, which I left ages ago in the first place because of Temfag being there because I was nosy that someone got mad about a post linking to your archived threadshit spam of Tasquetater's Reddit manifesto) didn't have Temstalker blocked, unlike myself. I'd continue this with you in private, but you are clearly busy ERPing deltateen sex in your private Discord with your long distance "boyfriend" and are too cowardly for direct confrontation.
>>575618840No, it wasn't. The fans have been obsessed with drawing parallels since Chapter 1. Very different. Toby even made it so the flwoers aren't darkners in this chapter, so you wouldn't be confused. You managed to ignore that whole part of the premise
>>575618686If a flashback exists to show us a plot point it's not going to be focused on showing us the relationship dynamic between Kris and Asriel. Aqua and Seth are to show us the relationship without the need for any specific important plot beats that might get in the way of showing us the dynamic.
>>575618839Thanks femanon. This stuff is very interesting to me. I hope you don't feel like too much of a freak. It's really about as freaky as any form of masturbation.
>>575618602This nice little flower WARPED you
December Holiday violently molested Kristopher Dreemurr in the cold, biting Winter of 1997
