Previous Thread: >>575656492>Guides, Resources and useful links:https://rentry.org/bagguides>/bag/Circles/Clubs/Friends:https://rentry.org/holdingthebag>4koma, Manga, Side Content, PVs & Shortshttps://rentry.org/bacontent>>(JP) – JST>Banners:>7/29 After Maint – 8/5 10:59Makoto (Swimsuit – Limited)Satsuki (Swimsuit – Limited)Chiaki (Swimsuit – Welfare)>News:Patch notes: https://bluearchive.jp/news/newsJump/680>Events:Set Sail! Pandemonium Society's Ship: Chairman Makoto's Splendid Summer Vacation – 7/29 After Maint – 8/12 10:59100-Free Recruitment Campaign – 7/29 After Maint – 8/5 10:59>Content:Total Assault: Hieronymus (Urban) – 8/5 11:00 – 8/12 3:59Limit Break Assault: The Fury of Set (Field – w/Light Armor) – 7/30 11:00 – 8/26 3:593x Bounty/Scrimmage – 7/29 4:00 – 8/5 3:592x Account EXP – 8/1 4:00 – 8/3 3:593x Normal – 8/5 4:00 – 8/9 3:593x Commissions – 8/5 4:00 – 8/12 3:592x Account EXP – 8/8 4:00 – 8/10 3:593x Hard – 8/9 4:00 – 8/12 3:59>>(GLOBAL) – UTC>Banners:>7/21 After Maint – 8/4 1:59RenaKonokaHare (Camp)Kotama (Camp)Maki (Camp)Misaki>News:Patch notes: https://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board_view?thread=3501827>Events:Kivotos' Unsolved Mystery: In Search of Tsuchinoko, the Unknown Creature – 7/21 After Maint – 8/4 1:59Arona's Dice Game Event! – 6/23 After Maint – 8/18 1:59My Office: https://bluearchive.nexon.com/user/myoffice>Content:Total Assault: Goz (Field) – 7/28 2:00 – 8/3 18:59Limit Break Assault: Tiphareth (Indoor – w/Elastic Armor) – 7/22 2:00 – 8/17 18:592x Bounty – 7/20 19:00 – 7/27 18:592x Normal – 7/27 19:00 – 8/3 18:59
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Fuck Goz
>>575668727>>575669001btfo
CHILD
Reminder you must have yesod plat to post
3 hours until we learn that bonus tickets don't count for pity tick tock /bag/, clock is ticking
>>575668746This what people are doesn't understand. Anyone after getting turbo fucked like this will feel discouraged to even attempt rolling if you can not guarantee the double spark anyway.
I can't believe I miss ritual posters
>brown bag gets filtered by Yesod>chimps out about the gacha changeskekypow
I'm more pissed my trust in Kim has been damaged. He was supposed to be the chosen one, a real homie, my king, not another backstabbing suit. This sucks.
You either die a hero,,,,
>>575669109Here's how we can still win doomsisters
My canon wife Fuuka...
>>575668969Mutsuki raped me
>>575669109And what happens if it does? Are you going to concede and we can finally talk about Gehenna for once?
300 free jimmies!
>>575669109Are you touching yourself while typing this...?
>>575668969>newbabs will never know about the strat to use tomoe+muchuki to blast kaiten p2i kinda miss when she was not only viable but actually competitive
>>575669105I don't have one, mr janny, sorryNo 4chan pass either
Just be a luckchad bro.
>>575669204Pivot back to the argument that it was only changed because of the backlash
>>575669131MANY SUCH CASES
>>575669109They won't do this it would be suicide
>>575669301Why are you replying to yourself?
Got my 4chan pass right here.
>>575669131LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLthey never recovered from this burn kek
Waka Wednesday!
Thoughts?
>>575669131Why aren't you spamming Aris NTR anymore?
you posted that already
>>575669371I don't give a fuck about what random cunts on twitter are saying.
>>575669131AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYESOD-SAMA, I KNEEL
>575669371Try harder dumb brown.
>>575669368nobody says this
he angy because /bag/ is angy about new gacha system?what gives?
>>575669371this post made me really mad
finally hammered it out. I'm not even going to entertain Lunatic.
>>575669131
So basically that was a fucking lie.
You just lost yourself a customer
>>575669473it's the Aris/Kei NTR spammer. he switched to spamming graphs and calling everyone brown.
>>575669331Post your yesod plat You won't
Realistically, can they just use this system for the next two banners (100 free pulls and bluefes) then bring back the old one?
>>575669131>even japanese are calling out subhuman complainersIt's over for bag
>>575669248is this the only game in history where the rapebait is (you)
>>575669129>missing ecelebslmaogood riddance i say
coom in doomrope in hope
>>575669248this is a pretty good l2d emulation
>>575669524Jeets and seadogs don't buy pakeji tho
I careI askedI love you
>>575669405See>>575669073You got BTFO already, raped secondary
>>575669667>emulationdon't tell me you don't believe in sKasumi and sMeg
>>575669561>Pandemonium summer randomly has a completely different gacha system to the rest of the gameI see the vision
>>575669683why did you quote my post?
>>575669131Yeah, yeah, whatever, mathfag
>>575669683So why aren't you spamming Aris NTR anymore?
>>575669142I'm gonna be honest, I don't think he can do anything to make me hate him
>>575669726i believe only one of them will get it unfortunately
If the Koreans had any balls they’d drag Kim out from his swanky office and Marie Antoinette him right there in the damn street“let them eat free rolls”. Fuck you
>>575669131Stop spamming this, it hurts my feelings
>>575669180smug lunch lady
>>575669824why him and not the swede?
/bag/ I'm shaking. What if the bonus tenners don't count towards pity???
>>575669589There's also Girls' Frontline, the earlier gacha game that featured an all-girls playable cast with male human(oid) NPCs where all the girls are superhumans with guns and you're in charge of them somehow despite being physically weaker than them
>>575669521>Managed to turn getting a mihomo style gacha update into a positiveSeems safe to me.
>>575669371damn he's based than average baggotsat least he made community happy.
>filtered by yesod>filtered by palm tree>filtered by graphs and mathPlease john nexon add IQ tests to BA
Ok i need a qrd. How much does this gacha change affect me if I always expect to absolutely get ass fucked by rates?
>>57566983167 heehee
>he's still fed posting
>>575669908good afternoon singapore
>>575669204And what happens if it does?They will count, but even if they did the damage is already done.It's not about objective benefits from the new changes versus old, it's about loss of trust** built up over 5 years being destroyed in an instant.People couldn't care less about the numbers, they care more about nexon trying to pull a fast one on everyone as if no one would notice. That creates disgust, and disgust is an incredibly powerful emotion.**trust is a silly term, no one should "trust" companies of course, but it's just a shorthand to talk about people giving the benefit of the doubt and not questioning things too much. Until now, anyway.
>>575669927>Ok i need a qrd.No you don't, no one cares
>>575669824Because he was once a brother. We aren't animals, he will live with the shame of breaking our trust.
>>575669927The averages are 27% better
>>575669371Wasn't this the fag that got mass cancelled by Japanese BA artists after saying their fanworks were trash?I lol'd that day ngl
>>575669927The cost of the worst case went down so you're better off
Why are browns on Twitter complaining as if the gacha changes were already affecting them already?
Yeah, that's not the type of posting we need
>>575669908
>>575670014why does this number keep going up? getting holocaust survivor vibes here
>>575670025Why are you falseflagging seiaposters?
>Wake up>See this:What do?
>>575669073Where can I see these all time records for my bosses?
>>575669925BA would lose 99% of their playerbase overnight
Why is the quality of the thread corellated with the quality of English being used?
>>575669750Hey it could last for a month to get the most out of player feedback
>>575670030Do you want Plana Vagina posting instead?
I'm the real Seia poster
What did I tell you about engaging with deluded third worlders again?
>>575670025>already affecting them already
>>575670071Synthesize a trophy case in the crafting chamber and put it in your cafe
>>575669927Old system: pay 400 rolls to redeem both studentsNew system: pay 320 + 80 free rolls to get both students
>>575669965>contributed to community by translating doujins and comics>played the gamemeanwhile what's your contribution beside shitposting on 4ch?
>>575670163Owned that faggot
>>575670163/r/thathappened
After the initial high and seeing so much fanart of her I've somehow lost all interest in pulling for that cowtit student Satsuki, what's even her appeal?
>>575670118Baggots like you understand, my honorary friends.
current thread feel
will the real gookseia please stand up?
>>575670150Where's the 80 free rolls coming from?
>New gacha system tests players's IQ>Dumb f2p pagpags get filtered>Dolphins get rewardedI see this as a win. We need to get rid of the SEA players who bitch online but can't support the game with their wallets.
>>575670275Why are you replying to yourself?
>normies are still rioting pointlessly>everyone with a brain already moved on after realizing how good the new system isHopefully this ends soon with the update coming, global should get it earlier with the fox update
>>575670220Being super meta
are we posting plats?FUCK CHESED
>>575670275There's a reward track when you roll that gives free rolls that we are assuming count towards pity
>>575669441That "random cunt" translated all the BA doujins and fan content that you read, into a language you can actually understand. Hardly a random cunt.Speaking of, what have you created for the fanbase?
>>575670268what's up gookako?need to some help to pull out your tooth?
>>575670323>global should get it earlier with the fox updateGod I fucking wish
>>575670338Why did you post my pic? Ain't no way you seriously saved it a week ago just for this
>>575669927You win more with the new change
>implying we care about the yurifag
>>575670163here?MTLing stuff, usually students' kit on the fly during livestreamalso actually playing the game
>>575670323I hope they do just to see the reaction
>>575670220She's a very endearing crybaby who wishes for a world where painful things don't happen to anyoneAlso ridiculously meta
>>575670163>>575670349Hello ZetsuStill mad you got your cover clown up? You don't contribute shit. You pirate fan works.
>>575669927New gacha has strictly better odds, less variance, and is effectively 25% less expensive (320 rolls vs 400) in the worst case scenarioAlso as an added benefit it makes browns seethe uncontrollably
Wait a minute, Zetsu is that nigger who was shilling an artist's translated doujin on /bag/ and tried to get us to pay for it so he gets money from ithttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/555800046/#q555815104Fuck off
Women are not attracted to most men. They'd rather have a chocolate bar. So why are you so attracted to women? Are men slaves to their biology?
>>575669204if they do count for pity I'll be slightly concerned about long-term future of BA but I'll shut up about it and start to evangelize for the changes because it would make them great for the playersI just don't believe they will both because it would be too generous, and also because they didn't do a good job advertising them. If they count for pity the should be shouting about it from the rooftops, and instead they just posted the detailed patch notes and then waited way too long before Kim posted the apology. They still didn't release any math about the changes being better for players, the ONLY thing was Kim retweeting the calculations that DIDN'T include the 40 bonus pulls.
>>575669131KEKAROOOOOOOO
>>575670124I'm pretty sure everyone conceded from the start that the new system is better if you want only one girl, but that's rarely the case in the first place.
Have you reversed your negative review yet?
>>575670229Plana vagina
>>575670163>>575670349This is the same poster.
>>575670163Uh oh they didn't like this one
>>575670019>>575670150Thank you. Have a fresh Cheese image where she is thinking very very hard in my cafe.
>started playing FGO again just in case>maint
What I worry about isn't actually the gacha rates those are very clearly better for anyone with a brain My question is, now that the pity carries forward, what will happen with crafting stones? Won't we begin to feel scarcity?
>>575670545Kill yourself
>Old systemNot 50/50>New system50/50Fuck the new system.
>>575670323>>normies are still rioting pointlesslymentall illnessdon't they have anything better to do?
>>575670143Neat, thank you. Works with the gold case. Not as cool as the first guy, but I am a functioning human.
>>575670082twitter screencaps correlate with negative IQ
>>575670571>inb4 the free rolls don't count towards the pity>>575670482Someone please make a new graph of the expected value if the free tickets don't count towards the pity so we can have more arguments
>>575669978I think people would be less cynical if Nexon didn't literally get sued and convicted of rigging drop rates in Maple Story less than 2 years ago. Not even getting into the long history of slimey shit they've done, but that's extra relevant.Likely a decent reason why the outrage was so immediate and heated. Everyone who said "BA is different, Nexon's changed" suddenly got reminded that a Zebra can't change its strips.
>>575670163>what's your contribution?I drew this
>>575670545Why would I do that?
>>575670612>start playing the salaryman cuck gameBro?
>>575670630They added them to the pyro shop :)
>People shitting on based ZetsuYou're just mad he isn't a dekinai like you.
>>575670612>Playing a cuck gameWhy?
>>575670612>Play FGO right after anni>Also in the middle of Ordeal Snore
>>575670163Some unknown thirdie throwing doujins in jeetPT is not contributing anything of value
>>575670665The most controversial image on /bag/
did it again
>>575670546I can see it
Redeem the tsuchinoko code sir
>>575670163I drew fanarts and help people with their TA/GA in this thread. I've also been sharing my lun clears and strategy What is YOUR contribution?
>>575670638Even if the new system was 0/100 the new system is still better solely considering the rebates.average rolls required for 1 students - old: 107.708447, new assuming you lose every 50/50: 91.966966average rolls required for 2 students - old: 192.661012, new assuming you lose every 50/50: 179.787706average rolls required for 3 students - old: 274.46636, new assuming you lose every 50/50: 268.612172
>>575670542What? No, the new system is better even if you want the two girls. If you were a lucklet and had to spark them twice, you'd have 80 free summons doing so. It's literally only bad if you were aiming to keep rolling past that to accumulate Eleph.
>>575670542It was one of the very first concessions deluded mathlets made, and it's far from being the last one.
>>575670647Why are you incapable of reading the announcements
>>575670719Nah, that would be this one>>575669131
My precious desert rose.
>>575670698I rather be a dekinai than a retarded brown who sperg on X.
>>575670771proof?
Bing?
>you can't be angy about A, because you got filtered by B>something that's not even correlated with A
How the fuck does ZZZ has better reviews than BA despite also using the 50/50 system
>>575670641The raid has been over for half a year, why even censor the rank?
>thread still unusablewhat is going on
>>575670143Never wanted to synthesize the trophy cases because it uses up the actual trophies, is there no other way?
>>575670814Instead you are a retarded brown sperging on 4chan
shout out to the Plana erp guy, still doing his thing despite the raids
>>575670792Anons can't even read the gimmicks to the raids, why do you think anyone can read the announcements?
>>575670814Found the retarded chimp who got filtered by Yesod
why have rebates instead of just lowering the number of rolls needed THO?
>>575670047That's just because the initial math was done before the patch notes with the 40 free pulls per spark.
>>575670647It's the same as the previous graphs when we didn't know about it, ie it's worse if you lose the coinflip but better otherwise
>>575670838>perform poorly on an IQ test>still allowed to voteThat doesn't make sense.
>>575670839Because they didn't change their gacha in the middle of their game's lifespan
>>575670698>the same self defense as in the archive linkkek
>>575670652Pretty much. Their reputation preceded them.tbdesu people knew, they always knew, it's just that even if you connected the dots, the maple controversies, dfo controversies, rate-rigging, revolving door of leadership changes, the swede cunt CEO joining earlier this year, and the stock price being down almost -50% YTD, BA seemed to defy all of that for 5+ years.But now moving forward BA is no different from the rest. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
>>575670652They rigged the probabilities for over a decade and tried to hide it + cover it up. Absolute scum.
Maintenance scheduled to end in 2 hoursCan't wait to see JP's reaction
I started around shupos and only just got my first plat.
>>575670927because uhhh... uhhh... SHUT UP CHUD THE MATH IS SOLID!!
>>575670841Sites like midoshitter records the the teams everyone used with their full info. It hasn't been updated in a while so many it's not necessary anymore and plana-stats is anonymous.https://hina.loves.midokuni.com/Raid/EU/73
>>575670870bodied that freak
>>575670814>retarded brown who sperg on XIncredible.
>>575670698>projecting
>>575670685>>575670702>>575670712I like Tiamat
>>575670734Plana's vagina
>>575670814So you're mad Zetsu's willing to try AO even though he's been translating BA porn books (for free) for you?Ungrateful cunt
The math proves the new system is bett->Loses the 50/50AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>575670870KEK GOTTEM
>>575670870God damn
>>575670927I get to roll more so it's better
>>575670964Isn't it better to wait until the 100 free rolls are used before using pyro because of the new system's moving target?
>>575670934>it's worse if you lose the coinflip but better otherwiseWhat's with this retarded nigger babble? Even if you lose the coin flip you still get 40 pulls per spark, every single scenario for the new system is better than the old system.
>>575671087it was always better do wait for the 100 free rolls
>>575671032Not for free, see >>575670505
>>575670612The closest game to BA on the market right now is muvluv on dmm, and you chose to play fgo?
>>575670717>thirdies projectingyou can't even translate and typset
>>575671095I have a feeling this poster is gay
>>575671105There's no need to wait considering the 100 rolls are available day 1.
>>575671032don't talk about yourself in third person
>they changed a system that everyone was already fine with and normalized so it is actually friendlier for you and they make less money
>>575669131The post that mindbroke bag
>>575670870i would also like to join in on bulling this melanated individual
Are we shitposting about community contributions now?
>>575670841Schizophrenia, I guess. Would it even matter if people knew who I was? Not like anyone could message me or anything outside my club.
>>575671095Read the context anon, especially if you're going to call other people illiterate
>>575670505I was the one shilling it because I like Mika, Zetsu did show up on the thread at one point
>>575669561Bro it's nexonThey're just going to leave it until everyone sucks it up and moves on unless the revenue/playerbase falls dramatically enough for shareholders to noticeEven then they might just tell the shareholders to wait for RX lmao
how much of this arguing is actually genuine and how much of it is just threadshitters who smelled blood in the water and realized they’ve got a new way to be annoying?
>>575656492delish
>>575671037>Oh too bad, I can now get the character in the 19200 I budgeted or use the charged pity in another banner! Oh shit, I got a cool spook as well!
>>575671163Yeah, do you have problems with math or what? Do you not understand numbers?
>>575671226You are 2:50hs late
>>575671024It's warmer than her hands
I'm good enough at Nihongo that I can read any doujin in Japanese and so I don't have to rely on SEA browns for shitty localizations
https://x.com/le_thana/status/2082242004327497744
>>575669131Put me in the screencap
>>575671160I know it's a site primarily for japanese doujinshi and other media but there being no checkbox for Japanese/Original bothers me, though it probably bothers me less than a grayed out untickable checkbox there
>>575670991Yeah something broke and he can't do it anymore
>>575671220>how much of this arguing is actually genuine0%>and how much of it is just threadshitters who smelled blood in the water and realized they’ve got a new way to be annoying?100%https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/boards/vg.meta/image/pXstQybmKFgMadCKtia25A/
>>575671196My point still stands, that's still 40 free pulls you get even without pity accumulating
>>575671130I didn't give a shit until they showed me this. I still technically don't as muvluv is overrated trash.
>>575671186We should start shitposting about community cumtributions I stead!
So why did they give away 300 pyro for free, is that usually what they do for events?
Walnut... save me.
NO NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ZETSU LITERALLY SAVED /BAG/ WITH HIS NAGISA AND MIKA TRANSLATIONS! IF YOU DON'T LIKE HIS OPINION, YOU HATE BA AND THE COMMUNITY!
>>575671105I used to just roll 100 + 10 free on the first day because the spark is basically at a 50% discount but the new one has higher chance of rolling the PU at an arbitrary reset point as well as the free rebates
>>575670612Sis...
>>575670839Lots of BA "fans" doing everything in their power to see the game fail. It doesn't matter that they've been proven wrong entirely, they feel like they can't back down now from their 3 day activist campaign without looking like illiterate idiots
Post some soundposts please
>>575671306this looks like trash ngl
>>575671196Sorry anon, brown hours are upon us, expect to see more twitter screencaps and broken English.
>>575671339this but unironically
>>575671328For NEW events, yesAnd as compensation for acceleration (the actual reason).
>>575671339The random mentions of that beautiful Bangladesh man throughout the day was very odd, he really wants us to care lmao
>>575671306there's a limit you know?
>>575671252you see I like to sleep
>>575670071YESOD PALM TREE RAID
>>575671220Definitely the latter, especially after the rebate announcement. Before that there was still some genuine concern but then it was 20% legit and 80% instigators.
>>575671220it's 0% genuine, it's all threadshitters replying to one another
>>575671419Why are you replying to yourself?
>>575669927If you assume a worst case scenario the new gacha is objectively better
Me buying pakeji to keep the game funded and alive has contributed more than some guy using MTL to """"translate"""" and profit off of other people's work
If you aren't in the same league as Zetsu or Midokuni then your opinion is worthlessYou have no place in the community
I don't care about your eceleb nigger kill all xitterfags
White guy here. Can we stop the disparaging of our browns /bag/gers? They have feelings you know. They play the game just like us. Their opinions are just as valid as ours. Show some respect.
Imagine the absolute seethe if the free rolls end up not counting towards pityI don't think it will happen, but I still want to see it happen nonetheless
>>575671449A sleep-haver in my /bag/...
WE LOVE ZETSU AND HIS CONTRIBUTIONS HERE
>>575671450>>575671469This is the same poster
>>575670816Here, you can take my lun yesod that I did with Eri.
>>575671348Are these good
>>575671543No, BB is a dickpull
can't believe these ecelebs aren't on the /bag/ filter
>>575671523Imagine if the rewards are only for the fes banner lol
>>575670304This but actually literally unironically
>>575671490I am really thankful for Midokuni giving terrible rolling advice to redditors so staying in plat is easier.
>>575671523Would genuinely and unironically be the end. Not even they could be that retarded.
>>575671523>I don't think it will happen>he still doesn't expect worst from Jewxonretard lol
Zetsu if you are lurking it is of urgency that you translate this one
>>575671598We weren't even aware of them until today
>>575671601imagine if you could read
>>575669371>"a couple weeks ago">when the gacha changes were announced two days agoLARPer.
They should change the pity to 75/25 at 200th roll, 90/10 at 300th and only guarantee the unit at 400th roll so every retard still defending this game gets raped by nexon that they love and worship so muchId be funny
>>575671524I still wake up 2-3 times during the night. I am an unc after all. But I found out that if I ignore the alarm and keep sleeping for 1-1.5h more then I will wake up feeling mostly fine
>>575671647I can see how that would be the case if you're a tourist here
>Goz lunatic jumps the HP 150m from TormentJeez that sounds miserable. Am I safe for plat in torment?
>>575671639Why would I expect the "worst" from BA when it's the best gacha on the market?
>>575671612I don't think they WON'T count but they definitely can be that retarded. Top level management don't get there by being competent, they get there by failing upward where they get rewarded for not knowing anything other than being bloodsucking parasites.
>>575671542Show fanarts please
>>575671447No such thing.
>>575671674Torment was safe in JP
>>575671672I'll be fine with pirating his translations 10,000 times so he loses money
>>575671163You know, autistic people don't like changes. even if its better.
>>575671674There were more torment clears on JP than Peroro during 3.5. How did Peroro end up on your server?
>>575671258vagina Plana
Can't you just admit you got it wrong?
>>575670932>40 free pulls per sparkEX-FUCKING-SCUSE ME WHAT
>>575671650I bet he's talking about the streamers collab
>>575670546That's actually Sensei since there's no halo
>>575671674Greg LUN goes from like 200m hp to more than a billion
>>575671306You know that that game and the trilogy are written by different team right?
>>575671675>best gacha>becomes the worst gacha and kills itselfkek
>>575671802go back to your general
>translating "SENSEI, I'M CUMMING AAAAHH!" for x pages should be considered a major community contributionlol
how come 3-4 hours ago the thread was slow and comfy with less shitflinging but now all of a sudden everything ramped up to max?
>>575671813Is that even playable
>>575671732this is why humanity should invest money on homunculi tech instead of ai
>>575670520I'm attracted to sexy 2D girls, 3DPD sucks ass
>>575671674You're probably gonna need a decent clear. 1T should be enough.
>>575671856I woke up
>>575671821I do, and I do not like the setting of garden.
>>575671371I can't guarantee that it works
>ZERO talk about Iroha and Buki in the past 24 hoursDamn Irohafag you really jinxed this one. You got what you wanted, but at what cost?
>>575670927You don't want free 40 rolls worth of eligma and potential students???How do some of you repeat this question?
>>575671641Good non-h doujins, I wish more non-h doujins get translations in the future
>>575671774Soft, pure mound
If you're defending the system, remember to include:>and the rebate rolls, granted to us thanks to our protesters' brave fighting, which would have not been included otherwisein your explanation.
>>575671861Even worse. It's a 1T.
>>575671856Because the Aris hater schizo woke up
>>575671805Which still pisses me off but that thing at least was just the fault of the Global team.
>>575671856We're being raided by xitterfags now
it's sea, the answer is always sea
>>575671856Americans wake up around this hour.
>>575671163>everyone was already fine withThey explain they didn't like the user experience of having users rolling 200 with 0 PU which happened 25% of the time
>>575671741huh really? it feels like a very easy torment(not that I did it yet), there's already over 500 people above insane on EU so I thought slow torments would be out
>>575671667>They should change the pity to 75/25 at 200th roll, 90/10 at 300th and only guarantee the unit at 400th rollI bet there are retards here that will defend this when it eventually happens to BA
>>575671861the damage cap is removed, it's possible to 1T even
>>575671961tail as old as time
>>575671669>that if I ignore the alarm...I will wake up feeling mostly fineThis is the case, when woken up in a disruptive way it can ruin your day. You can keep sleeping after waking up to your alarm though? Impressive, to be honest
>>575671856Look at the time, it's prime SEA hours now
I've seen a grim future...of /bag/ supporting a weapon gacha under the guise of it giving more pulls...
This is why chise almost falls back when she turns the fan up
>>575671757>Peroro was like 3k Tor clears on EUIt's over for Tor chuds.
>>575671834The game will end up completely fine and unscathed and you'll be the one killing yourself in anger, seething brown tourist.
>>575671810vagina Plana bride
>>575671961It's literally 3am
>>575672047Math > feels
>>575671856Zetsu fanboys finally got home from their shitty 9-5
>>575671837Take your meds. I'm not on here 24/7. Is this real or am I being bullshitted?
I thought asians are supposed to have 200 IQ, but most chinks are legit retarded.
>C-Careful, that slope is slippery!Sigh...
>>575670647I see. I just wanted an excuse to post silly images from my cafe. Like this one in honor for pandemonium summer.Which way /bag/man?
>>575671987Fgo has pity at 330 that resets itself and isn't shared banners. Also, there are no ongoing banner spooks.
>>575671961it's 1 am over here dude
We love Nexon here
>>575672117Beach
>>575672086Is Hawaii not America anymore?
I don't really care about the changes, but it's bad that EN users are starting to harass JP artist and players for not siding with them
friendly reminder that every single bigtime jp blue archive streamer and their fanbase always complain about すり抜け and how bad the gacha was
>>575671856what a lack of moderation does to the sitethey're giving each other (You)s so they think actually baited someone from /bag/
>>575672109You can never disprove that they will never lean towards that route
>>575671984There were about 25k TOR scores in gold is what he's not mentioning lol. I got 40m on NA so I should be safe.
>>575671856chimps got triggered by Yesod
>>575672047That would genuinely be the final straw. I'm already refusing to spend my pulls on Light Cones in HSR and I absolutely wouldn't support it here. But thankfully slottable equipment doesn't really seem possible in this game so I think we're good.
>>575671961Anon?
>>575672185>so they think actually baited
>>575672075I need to marry a Prana so bad
>>575671163>>575671232Them not elaborating on it didn't do them any favors. My only gripe with it honestly.
My slope? slipperyMy man? strawMy herring? redMy equivalence? false
>>575672225You don't need the cones. It's Jewish tricks to get more whale money. E2 is a better investment.
broken English bag hours...
>>575672205yeah, that's what I thought, which means TOR is not safe well I have the students for it since my Kei and bAris are maxed so I'll be fine probably
>>575672263I get it, you don't understand what a number is. I guess they don't teach that where you're from.
>>575672262I need Plana's vagina so bad
>>575671731You already see in the threads sometimes like sideway bananazoos
>>575672023if I have nothing going on in my mind, haven't slept my 8 hours fully and if it's not too hot or noisy then yes. I have to cherish this little freedom of sleep while I can before I get a new job and ruing my life once again. humans simply aren't made to wake up early. modern society is fucked up I say
We'll see if the new system is better soon
>>575672163Anon... Hawaii is a pacific island and thus SEA....
>>575672103the chinks lost their soul during the great leap forward
>less brown plague and chinks on my server = ez platThank you john nexon
My BA launcher is real saggy right now
>>575672267My ako? Gook
At least we can all agree that Suou needs to be added to the game and given a lot of cool story
>>575671907>Include something that was in a patch the day afterYou didn't change shit these were there from the start
>>575672415Why are you replying to yourself?
>>575672120FGO is notoriously the worst and the most Jewish gacha on the market. Comparing anything to FGO is retarded.
>>575672324Modifying Plana to make her tighter
>>575671907believing you're heroic and rewarded for chimping out is peak chimp mindset
How Seia are you feeling right now?
>>575672163>11pm>wake upretard
>>575672412You'll get your wish granted but she'll be a jobber each time
atsui
>>575672482do they at least get a lot of free currency like over here
>>575671667>unitLet the mask slip too early.>Id be funnyYou won't be.
>>575670640normies don't have the time suck big corporate cock unlike mathchads
>>575672519If they offer me 1 banana, then I get mad then they give me 2, that's 2x the bananas. Math > feels
I need Plana to be bigger
>>575672547Then I didn't get my wish because that does not constitute for a "cool story"
>>575672351Job-ing sucks indeed; maintaining schedules, hard I'm off now to bed.. and to sleeping for 5 hours for another daycarry on delishing sensei
>>575672176They want the game to die now to protect the victomhood status they've given themselves so anyone that's not following the death cultist behavior is seen as a target/enermy. Most pathetic thing ever.
i post dog
>>575672120>Pity at 330That meant 900 sq bro, your f2p poorfag need to save for a full year to afford it
>>575672586>don't have the time suck
>>575672557I haven't played FGO past 8 months or so you hardly get any currency at all even if you started doing the story it's like clearing 5 slugfest stages for 1 single Quartz
Why is this jeet spamming plana and blogging about it suddenly?
>>575672678>victomhood
>>575672404>nips will be busy gooning to sagtsuki and enjoying their free rolls while /bag/ has to deal with raiders :(
>>575672539bottom right Seia
>>575672575Why are you replying to yourself?
>>575672305Honestly their whole dupe system pisses me off as well, especially since some characters become patently broken if you're insane enough to pull them to E6.
>>575672603no they just send you off to become lizard food
>>575672412>Suou is added to the game>her update introduces another gacha rules change
>>575672643She can lose in a cool way.
>>575672701Just let him be and he'll be on his way.
>>575672701>every plana post is a jeet
>>575672767No actually, they don't. Sorry your feelings can't argue with the math.
how do we reconcile the global and jp audiences once the global chimp out ends with them being in wrong?
Stop saying I'm brown, it's not my fault.
>>575672856nuke SEA
>>575672856This update was a massive IQ test.
>>575672772>mystic artifact banner
>>575672772>MRW Weapon gacha
>>575672856Why would WE reconcile anything?
>>575672102It's real. The fact that rebate systems would exist was announced on stream but they waited for two days before actually publishing the rewards list. Obviously the 20% rebate over first 400 pulls skews math bigly.It's an open question whether they slapped on rebates this huge just because of the initial backlash. I think this may have been some office politics bs.
>>575672856Shut down the global servers and give a translation option to JP for the few real fans that didn't participate in the harassment
>>575672772>New rule: your gacha luck increases based on the amount of students you have bond 50+
>>575672845>plana posts always have fresh from the booru filenames and hornyblogging self replies on cooldownkill yourself
>>575672845retard
>>575672603>human is feeding all chimps 2 bananas>he gives all chimps 1 banana at a time>chimp out for not immediately getting 2>turn comes and gets 2nd banana>chimp believes it was rewarded because it chimped out
new system is so good it killed the game
>>575672964Because he's brown who wants to become japanese
>>575673016Quite literally yes lol
>>575672176Analyst here. This stems from beyond just this instance. It's due largely to being seen as confirmation of fears of the "hoyofication" of the game being in full effect. This first camefrom the greenlighting of streams with content creators who largely appeal to said crowd and subsequent ignoring of said complaints due to those complaints not being done with the bases' wallets. Now it's at a crossroads where it's another step in proving the idea right but happening in such a short timeframe, it caused discontentment to boil over. I'd expect masses drops to happen.And as for the chinks, they just love watching things unfold.
>>575672802Like this?
>>575673052I'm sorry you can't do math but that's not my problem.
>>575672893STOP being brown, have you thought about it?
>>575673052Why would human no hand out 2 bananas now? make himself look bad? ook eek.
>>575673052Bananazoos?
>>575673052Nice fan fiction retard
>>575673102No it's your imagination that makes you believe you were rewarded. There's no math going on there.
>>575673123is it true what they say planaposta?
>>575673102Sorry you're brown.
>>575672893true, it's your parents' fault. you know what to do.
>>575673102WHITEGOD
Every poster here is brown
>>575673165>No it's your imagination I think you're talking about the imaginary scenario you just made up?
lmao crazy how lame NEO avant-garde looks in comparison to Daath
>>575672498natural vagina Plana
>>575673236wtf is this picture, why would you do this...
post images only a real /bag/ native would have access to
Seia here. This stems from beyond just this Seia. It's due largely to being seen as confirmation of Seias of the "Seiafication" of the game being in full effect. This first camefrom the greenlighting of Seias with content creators who largely appeal to said Seia and subsequent ignoring of said complaints due to those complaints not being done with the bases' Seias. Now it's at a crossroads where it's another step in proving the Seia right but happening in such a short timeframe, it caused discontentment to boil over. I'd expect masses Seias to happen.And as for the Seias, they just love watching things unfold.
>>575673243
>>575673243They really thought ugly poozu would save it but I guess when SEA is being vocal chimping out online you can see why they'd think that
>>575673208Harukafag...
>>575673094>extreme jobbing>"cool way" bruh
KIM LIEDPEOPLE CRIED
https://x.com/Ruppu_ruP/status/2051597838464029092get your girls pregnant so they can do this
>>575673208>you know what to do.?
>>575673239>you made up>If they offer me 1 bananayou introduced the scenario you pure retard
what's the new coupon? I tapped so quickly I missed itluckyanimal or something?
>>575673179How they glow the hottest and hardest?>>575673286Plana is all digital, unless...
>i got right side train 6 times in a row
>>575673330well then show me what a cool loss looks like.
>>575673358hey. that milk is supposed to be mine
>>575673368Have you tried uploading your fan fiction somewhere where people care?
i got a banana for you right here
>new system is good because its worst for other players(whales)>new system is good because muh math even tho they ninja dropped it like a bag flaming shit>new system is good because muh math(now for real after they added free shit on top)>why are you complaining everything is fine!!!!(entire community in shambles)mumbai scholars, I kneel...
>>575673243I actually like it more than Daath
>>575673384Brother they show it with red lights at the beginning.
>>575673435No you don't retard
>>575673384Just move to the left then. What's the problem?
>>575673384just do it 1 million more times and you'll get the average. trust the math
>>575673384delish
>>575672982Okay, thanks. Yeah, I just found this elsewhere, too. There's really only two options: Either they saw that the fans were not amused and wanted to avoid another Halo Fest debacle or this was their plan from the start and they deliberately obscured how big the rebate was going to be so they could seem more generous by "listening to player feedback".But yeah, this way the system seems to benefit absolutely everyone.
>>575673409Again, you introduced the story
>>575673295....
>>575673384AAHHHHHHHH SAVE ME MONTY HALL
>>575673423thank you
>>575673481meant for >>575673052
the thread is so bad now. Seanig hours? Or is it something else?
>>575673462You are not me
>>575673384IT WILL EVEN OUT
>>575673295
>>575673001Now that's a change I would happily get behind.
>>575673384that's equivalent to losing the gacha coin flip fyi
It's funny how if it was the other way around people would complain about nexon stealing their 40 free rolls and forcing them to roll to 200 because they're greedy to trade in a student they would have rolled anyway if they didn't steal out boosted soft pity and free rolls
>>575673380Plana all sexy vagina
>pedobuki blud thinks he can save the threadlol
>>575673623It's funny how you can barely speak English
>>575673384>>575673467I'm about to attempt tor today, why does it matter? Does it affect the clear speed or something?
>>575673623The lesson is to not change it
>blud
>>575673658Many are saying this.
>>575673697We say blud here
I am fearful that Izuna's reputation may be permanently subsumed by the Korean eldritch monstrosity
>>575673243Rio tried her best okay
>>575673623I'm pretty sure everyone would appreciate guaranteed pity over some free rolls, even if The Math™ says the other system is better.
>>575673635The ibukifag doesn't even play the game
>>575673624Planya vagina
>>575673697First time seeing brown twitter zoomer lingo?
>>575673236It should be the other way around
>>575672982They just wanted to wait for the patch notes to give the details and didn't think people would take the original announcement so badly. How do you even predict that your supposed "fanbase" that "loves" the game so much would be actively pushing misinformation like picrel just a few hours after the stream ended and review bombing your game in spite without even waiting for the most basic of math simulations to see how the new system compared? Tards have been acting in bad faith throughout all this ordeal
>>575673725
well that's a little bit of a problem I completely fucked the rotation and had to do one more round of buffs and torment is STILL completely free plat is going to be competitive as fuck
>>575673736What.
>>575673623That has a name, it's called better the devil you know than the devil you don't. There will always be friction when you change a system that has been around for 5 years.
>>575673767schizo ahhh blud
>>575673658Miyako said she hated me
retards think they are a statistic instead of a case scenario
>>575673767these people can't be serious why do they love ebonics so much
if miyako loves me why won't she become real and hug and kiss me
>>575673829It's called the ability to do math and understand what numbers are
I don't think
>>575673779FYI the rebate details weren't tweeted by the Japanese account. They were sneakily added to their webpage news section.
>>575673795Just do Lunatic.
>>575673857Black culture won
>>575673658Miyako said she hated generals like /bag/ the most
i heard the devs apologizedare you okay now /bag/?
>>575673779Please explain how that picture is misinformation.
>>575673749I like whatever system gives me the most studentsYou like seething at random bullshit because you're brownWe are not the same
>>575673671I was free balling my clear and tried both, I've never survived the mobs going to the right for whatever reason. Also even when you move the team to the left, Arisu occasionally moves to the front and kills herself.
diddy ahh bluds epstein apostles are not like us
>>575673795You have no idea how good you have it. There were no plats on JP that used SHanako or any AOE for P1. They all used NYKayoko or CHare and prayed to kill the mobs fast enough.
>>575673875therefore you are not?
>>575673857thank God they're too stupid to post gifs of that nigger speed
>>575673779You don't drop something as big as a gacha overhaul without giving every detail of it and instead just showing it off amid other announcements during a pre recorded show then nothing else for well over a day. Kim himself admitted they handled revealing it poorly.
>>575673912What do you mean? We were okay from day 1. Only literal chimps were mad about the changes.
>>575673749but people would be only hitting 200 roll 0 PU only 12.5% of the time before the change so the user experience will be a x2 increase of encountering that worst case scenario, having free rolls taken away (increased personal cost of hitting the spark), to get the same result since 200 is hard pity
Statistics are kino41%13%50%+
>>575673603White woman sensei...
>>575673912paimonahole
>>575673761vagina Plana i'm out of new-ish crotch focused Plana fanart but I love Plana's vagina
>man has all students for 1T clear and took 12 insteadbased, who needs guides anyway >>575673883hmmm nyo
>>575673857It's not any different to 4chanfags calling each other nigga
>>575673925I would slap Reisa if she spoke like that to me
even during these daring times plana poster is still erping
>>575673827Her character grew to becoming one of the most smitten students to you
fotopito?
>>575673912ask again when this thread isn't being raided
>He fucking slapped me
>>575673658Tsukiyuki Miyako, my gorgeous little snow-haired ass licker, I love you too.
>>575673912i'm fine as long as I don't have to read paimon wordslop ever again
>>575673481>goes silent because he got owned by mathchads
>>575674038Yeah, I'm thinking he's based
no fotopito.
>>575674050Until she straight up tells me she loves me I'm not going to believe her.
>>575673994That's fine, it's the desire to want Planagina that counts
Miyako’s most famous—and arguably most infamous—line in Blue Archive comes from her very first main story interactions in Volume 4, Chapter 1:It's grown-ups like you I can't stand the most." (or "It's adults like you I hate the most.")Why it's infamousWhen Volume 4 was introduced, RABBIT Platoon was living in Kousagi Park as homeless, rebellious elite recruits following the shutdown of SRT. Being bitter about how the General Student Council and adults had treated them, Miyako cold-shouldered Sensei right off the bat, giving them this harsh sting of a line.Why it's famous (and iconic)What makes this quote a legendary meme in the community is the extreme contrast that comes right after it:The Dynamic Shift: As Volume 4 progresses, Sensei earns Miyako’s trust by staying by her side during heavy rain, helping save their camp, and helping RABBIT Platoon navigate their crisis.The Bond Lines & Cafe: Her Bond Stories and Cafe voicelines quickly do a complete 180°. In her lobby/L2D lines, she becomes extremely devoted and affectionate, dropping lines like:"I've heard that rabbits are creatures that can die from loneliness...""I'll follow any of your instructions, Sensei... Any of them.""Can you... be with me forever?"Because player banners coincided with her debut story arc, players were getting hit with her cold "I hate adults like you" line in the story while simultaneously getting hit with her intensely affection-heavy cafe voicelines, creating one of the most beloved "tsundere-to-lovestruck" character turns in Blue Archive.
>>575673925I would rape Reisa if she spoke like that to me
Will I become a lolicon if I play this game?
>>575674038Concerning in a way
>>575674154SHUT UUUUUUUUP
>>575674038it's like how soldiers in the trenches have gay sex to take the edge off
>>575673870>I'll eventually win in the casino because I understand the numberscaved in skull take
>>575674054
>>575673857black people are permanently counter culture in america and everyone wants to copy the counter culture to be coolcoincidentally 4chan is also counter culture, so as a result all modern english internet slang ends up either being something black people made up or it came from here
>>575674190burger sensei...
>>575674154Sensei...
>>575674167If you are posting on 4chan then you are already a lolicon
>muh controversy>look inside>literally just a better gacha systemFake outrage
Is Rio aware of how big her boobs are? I know eimi is
>>575674284This
>>575673953>everything is fine!!!!(game burning to the ground)
>>575674284many are saying this (anyone who's not a literal chimp that can't understand numbers)
>>575674259KEK
cockdrunk miyako fellatio
>>575674190russian/ukrainian sensei...
>>575674154Thanks, Arona.
>>575674215that's literally how it works, yes. this is why they have people that kick you out once you start winning too much
>>575674167I unironically did
WE UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS
>>575674215Explain how it's wrong then mathlet
Alright, what do I add to my filters
>>575673929>less than 10% of current Torment clears in EU would be plat on JP grim
>>575674167I became hagchad after I started playing
>>575674167I'm only playing this because I'm already a lolicon
Remember when /bag/ said Ibuki got replaced?
>>575674038It's somehow more genuine than the monkey doing it with Mika.
I have yet to roll more than 200 times to get both students, if I lose a 50/50 I will blame Kim
https://play.games.dmm.co.jp/game/lilyangecome play the true lolicon game
>see doomposting>curse SEAjeets for being disintegrated when doomposting>doomposting dies downPraise me.
>>575674167All adult straight males are lolicons, some are just more honest than others.
I became a manwhore who dates woman for money after I started playing.
>>575674167I wasn't big into lolis (not that I hated them) when I started 2 years ago, but I love them now.
>>575674523GUH
>>575674415UNDERSTAND UNDERSTANDUNDERSTAND UNDERSTANDUNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND
>>575674504Well with that same luck you'll probably save around 40% pyros with the new system since you can observe that same phenomenon at 100 rolls rather than 200
>>575674442I just did a comfy clear because I'm hoping to do Lun.
Too many mathmen in this thread lately. Deploy the Lizes.
>>575674523I JUST noticed the see-through fabric
>>575674537I literally already do. It's a total kusoge though and if it didn't have loli sex (true) it wouldn't even be worth touching.
>>575674553
>significant portion of the girls aren't lolis>most popular girls are pettanko at best>sexiest girl has huge badonkers and is a foid>still labeled THE lolicon gameexplain
>>575674647>t. Mumbai University study
>>575673983Why I never...!There's an sIzuna figurine and a cHibiki figurine on my nightstand and two Maris on my desk.
>>575674648>top lunatic clears require qTomoeI refuse on principle
>>575674401indeed that is how it works, retards go in droves thinking they can win at a casino, that's why they make so much money
>>575674372>>575674379funny combo
>>575674734took you that long to think of that comeback?
Hauuu
>>575674728>>top lunaticFound your problem.
>>575674728>top
>>575674791Why are you mad?
>>575674167No, but you will awaken your inner hebeCHAD
>>575674157I've just spent a school year of kids trying to bait me into going along with their 67 bullshit. It can always get worse.
For every doompost one SEAjeet still gets disintegrated.
>>575674673every puni is over the age of 18.
Chrome-extension to filter out gookako posts automatically when?
>>575674791>no answer tougth so
>>575674884>tougthLOL YOU JUST SHOWED YOU'RE FROM ZIMBABWE
will i become miyako fan if i will play this game
Goodnight, /bag/
>>575674605THE CONCEPT OF RABU
Love Miyako
>>575674883we literally already have this
>>575674539Saori hates dooming now??
gookakos are frens
>>575673243I want to buy it but i have absolutely no idea how to assemble and paint a model kit
>>575674883>Chrome
>>575674605THE CONCEPT OF LOVE
>>575674914ohonono minor spelling mistake it's over
I've been vehemently opposed to the new gacha system on sheer principle but now it dawned on me that on the last five fucking banners I've been forced to full-spark and have gotten sweet shit-all else besides the banner character so it's statistically impossible for the new system to be worse for me.
>>575674927You're pretty cool, don't listen to them. Goodnight!
>>575672320Way to prove my point. As shitskins wouldn't be shitting up the threads if they explained it instead of having people to chartfag for them.
>>575674919yes
Sensei simply has no chance at all.
Nothing wrong with being a grammar nazi
>>575674703Blue Archive is lolicon larpers
>>575675013>fades into dust
>>575674989Wabbit season?
>>575674716I wanna be inside two wolves
>>575674537>dmmevery porn game ive seen off there has you whoring out girls and if i wanted to do that id just play free cities
>>575675040Why would a Korean company assume the average player has an IQ of 80?
>opens right as I have to leaveFUCK
nn
>>575675025I feel the same way, rolling outside FES is a shitty experience already, the coinflip will be helpful.
OH MY CASINO MATH
Gonna take a wild guess and say qTomoe requires more than 3 stars for lun. I need my ligma for crab so I'll pass this time around. I am pretty close to having the teams to doing it. Missing the Ritz still.
>>575675025Your averages will average out and you will be happy. Welcome to the mathchad club.
>>575675013singaporeans need every small victory, you don't understand
>>575675151MC alone fucks every girl in that one. Though some designs question how much tolerance you have for toddcon
>>575675025>>575675240gambler's fallacyGODs............
>>575675234Don't need either of them at all for lun
It's up
>>575675025>so it's statistically impossible for the new system to be worse for megoddamn you probably actually think this
>>57567498928 baby rabbits
>>575675240>10 coin flips a year will average out
>>575674919You will like Miyako if>you like midsize girls with nice asses>ponytails>very tight one-piece swimsuits>tacticoolYou will not like Miyako if>you can't handle a 15 yo girl getting emotional
>>575675040bro, my feelings?
my dick that is
>>575675076Then why everyone calls it THE pedo/loli gacha? checkmate homos
The thing that really gets to me is the amount of people LARPing as mathfags and statisticians without any understanding of how to model a system that has multiple factors that go into it.>But the average is betterYes, but that's not the only factor people take into account when evaluating a gacha system. You're also losing the opportunity of completing a spark for a second girl (infamous shupogaki picture) and the new system performs worse if your goal is getting dupes with a fixed number of rolls (a very real bluefes scenario). Lots of people just don't like 50/50s, that's valid too.It's okay if you don't care about those things and the only thing you're basing your judgement on is the average, but the idea that people aren't allowed to consider any other factors because you don't is retarded.Do I personally think the new system is going to be better for me? Yes. I've weighed up the pros and cons and it comes out on top. Other people may weight the factors differently and come to a different conclusion.
>>575675025Unlucky gamblers always fall for these traps, don't they?
>>575675076What's a lolicon larper?
>>575674703everyone is a high schooler which immediately filters out american normalfags as they would still think it makes you a pedo for touching, leaving mainly just pedos and third worlders
>>575675154>Why would a greedy company assume the gacha player knows what IQ is
Im not brown and I HATE math
>>575675368math > feelingssorry but the feelingsbukis lost
>>575675294do you have examples I can look at? If it's not too much trouble I'll do it.
>>575675436black momoiposter...
>>575675368How many times are you going to spam this?
It's time to watch it, /bag/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH63DShDkl4
>>575675368I have literally never done that "I'll roll 200 and hopefully get both" strategy. I either roll 200 cause I want 1 student or I roll 400 if I want both and if I get lucky great but never gamble on it. So far me personally the new system is way better cause it's just more students for less pyro.
I was afraid that I'd have to stop paypigging but the new system doesn't seem so bad. Gonna buy the battlepass and scam tickets when the fes drops on global
>>575675339sry blud casino math doesn't lie
>>575675184yuri meme
>>575675275> toddconwell now i have to check it out
I was good at math but X gon and done gave it to me (what?)
>>575675440here's some math for you200 recruitment points > 0 pity points
>>575675368same, I've concluded I will simply cut back on spending and pulling
Saki sucky ten bucky
>>575675442https://youtu.be/eGzU3_wY9kY
CAUSE I FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL
big casino earners>feelingsget over it!
>>575675360Because it has the highest comiket and fanart numbers, duh
LET'S GO GAMBLING
>>575675604>Because it has the highest comiket and fanart numbersIt won't after this update.
>>575675368>amount of people LARPing as mathfags and statisticians without any understanding of how to model a system that has multiple factors that go into itdon't even bother, a lot of them aren't genuine anyways
>>575675552I COULD SHOW MY EVERYTHING TO YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>575675552What would Kanna do if she learned that Sensei and Ibuki... You know?
i like the gacha change because i'm seeing swathes of twitterniggers saying that they're gonna quit but i know they wont
>>575675389Hinafags and Hoshinofags
I was really upset when I saw the update news, but now that I've seen the math and realized our gacha is actually getting a massive upgrade, I'm more than willing to spend money on the fes when it comes to global. And if I have to, I'll double my spending to make up for any mathlet retard who quit.
>>575675472Point me to an instance of me making this post in the past. I'll wait.
>>575675545oh fuck, you weren't kidding, I actually can do this with no borrows even lol. Thanks homie
>>575675624NEXT comiket for sure, saar!
>>575675676>Sensei's Crime Coefficient: 0now what?
>>575675368>and the new system performs worse if your goal is getting dupes with a fixed number of rollsThis is a weird statement to make when the rebate rolls exist.
>>575674703I hate myself every time I respond seriously to a gookako post but here goesBA has good designs in general and they still have a good portion of the cast that are lolis, therefor we have lolis that are good designs and lolicons will play to enjoy them.If you like Kisaki, why would you then not like her because there are tits in her proximity?
>>575675481>not posting the originalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdkjU-JsArk
I will be there when mathfags lose consecutive 50-50s
Would you still love Kisaki even if she a bombshell like the rest of Shanghajin's 3rd year ?
It's funny to me how they always have to lump together ALL vtumors just to get second place at Comiket otherwise if you break it down they're not even that popular. Gacha games still reign supreme.
goddamn repositioning has got to be the most infuriating mechanic in this game by far
It's suddenly quiet
>>575675767it's always the lolicons who are seething about hags tho, not the other way around
>>575675368You are slowly starting to accept the truth and yet you're still coping.>LARPing as mathfags and statisticians without any understanding of how to model a system that has multiple factors that go into it.>>But the average is betterYou don't need a phd in stochastic processes to understand the very simple concept that "if the average number of rolls to get X students goes down then the most likely outcome is that the new gacha will benefit me".It's genuinely the only metric that matters if you're either not spending any money or spending money until you get exactly what you want.
>>575675512nevermind i saw a single screenshot of stages on their xitter and got horrific priconne flashbacks
>she a bombshell>Shanghajin
>>575675767I love china
What if they rig the rates so that everyone's first 50/50 is a win?
>>575675389They're basically the opposite end of the spectrum of the Asuna ERP fags but for lolis. Tourists that don't actually play the game but just goon to loli art.
thinking about Kei's tentacle pussy
>>575675904I did say earlier it was a kusoge...
>>575675864>Stella Sora has worse number than TrickalImagine your game so bad people would rather wank it to deformed chibi
>>575675368are you saying you doubt mumbai scholars that produced random graphs? how dare you
>Getting both student at 200vs>Getting both student at 260+40 freeIt's not hard to math see
>>575675820kek
>>575675389All the Senseis that would quit their supposed beloved loli game over a gacha change that actually improves it AKA most brownoids online
>>575675857Me? Yes. Body size isn't the main factor as to whether I like a girl or not. Kisaki and Kaguya are equally hot to me.
Calling people Indian doesn't help your case, feelings poster
>>575676032trvke
>>575676020BUT THE CURVE IT WILL EVEN OUT IN 5 YEARS
Hitler here I think those that can't do maths should be sent to the gas chamber so we can have a more functioning society
>>575669635Bake
>s-sensei... please spend you money more responsiblySHUT THE FUCK UP YUUKA YOU AREN'T MY MOM>我想和你做爱。Yes Kisaki glory to Genryumon
>>575675864>hololive 5thso where are the others. they just getting a free ride?
>>575676120shut up Makoto it was your event that brought this shitshow in the first place
>>575676016even a burger public school teaches this shit in middle school
>>575675869yeah for most options other than tYuuka, the radius is way too small. Or maybe attacks are too wide. Don't know what the raid designers were thinking
>>575676020>Best casevs>Worst caseI don't even like the change but come on now.
>>575676183It's funny that Pandemonium will forever be associated with the worst fes of all time
>>575676078It's really funny that the retarded, uneducated third worlder is unironically trying to call anyone Indian.
>>575675764Last I looked the expected eleph value of 40 free rolls didn't make up for the amount you were missing out on. It's fine for that to not matter to you, but to pretend it doesn't matter or can't matter to anyone is the problem.>>575675901It may be the only metric that matters to you, and that is fine. You managed to provide exampeles of situations when that isn't the case and then just discounted them.>>575676016No, I'm saying that the math people have done is fine and correct, but it misses key fundamental points because it hyperfocuses on a single value which people then use to paint anyone who weights other factors more highly as MUH FEEFEES or raiders.
>>575675996deformed chibis can be pretty sexy
the new system is an IMPROVEMENTto paint your house red you first need to set it on fire
>>575676290>last I lookedShow your work
>>575675864hololive alone being 5 is pretty good for them regardless
I am a slave to nexon and they deserve all my money
>>575676310Maybe I need to download this game...
Are any of the pandemonium students must-pulls anyway?Should I just sit out this roll?
>>575676120>try to increase supply of potential Bankersno wonder you got bootedthe current world order doesn't work if everyone is financially literate or literate in general
>>575676172niji is there too...
>>575676020as a semi newfag getting lucky with the old gacha 2 or 3 times a year helped my account to clear more raids. i honestly think newfags with the new system. will be punished for even trying to get two students in 200,
>>575676020>win 1 out of 2 coin flipsvs>lose 4 out of 5 coin flipswow such fair comparison
>>575675996that's probably the only other game I can think of that actually has quality chibis
>>575676290>It may be the only metric that matters to you, and that is fine. You managed to provide exampeles of situations when that isn't the case and then just discounted them.Yes, my entire point is they're trying to make money off of literal glue-eating retarded gambling addicts and making the game more generous for everyone else. It's a win/win situation in my books.
>>575676373None, Sibuki turn out to buff crit rate rather than crit dmg
>>575675996put some respect on /trick/s name
>>575676373Not really. They're more limited banners than fes banners this time around.
>>575676020Being dishonest is why feelingfags are being mocked brutally
>>575676373Nah they are just fes students you can essily skip them. Fes students are never meta
>>575676125
>>575676183>>575676221Pandemonium FES introduced a based IQ TEST for senseis.
>>575676373You can just tell he wants to draw Sensei getting railed by Ibuki but he knows his massive twitter following would crucify him for it
>>575676409wdym, it's win 50/50 coinflip win and then pity on 2nd. That applies to old system where you get the first before 200 and spark the 2nd anyway
>>575676452>Nah they are just fes studentsDisingenuous framing. They are fes students, but they're also the weakest fes students we've ever gotten. They aren't like previous fes students at all in terms of power.
>>575675314Current system:>5 banner characters full-sparked>1000 rolls>120,000 pyros spentNew system:>5 banner characters full-sparked>1000 rolls, 200 of them free pity gibs>96,000 pyros spentYes, I actually think that. And this is already assuming I lose 5/5 coin flips (which I probably will).
>>575676409>>575676445retarded math niggers didnt you see 260+40 that 1 Win and 1 Lose. that is the normal occurence in the new gacha.
>>575676373This artist really made me hate how secondaries use Karin
>>575676510did you not read the rest of his retarded post?
>>575676505why would any of them care?He already drew hoshino doing it and she's barely any bigger
>>575676380ah sorryI was just skimming>nijisanji 14th>vspo 23rdthat's all I recognize
>>575676616>>575676616>>575676616
>>575676506Every 100 rolls is a 50/50 on whether you get someone with a 0.7% rate up chance.>>575676563>completely ignoring the 3 50/50s you lost by not getting the rate up in 300 rolls
>>575676574What rest of the post?The entire post is just "do I roll this or not", what are you even hallucinating?
>>575676330This is a very back of an envelope calculation because I'm going to assume that your hard pity and 50/50 aren't coming in the 40 extra rolls you get. The expected number of rate ups is 0.28, which gives you an expected 14 elephs for the rate up.A previous analysis that I felt was sound showed that prior to the rebate, rolling 200 times would give you on average 30 elephs more. So the rebates will on average only make up half the distance.
Bing
>>575676373Never listen to /bag/. They'll tell you to skip then make fun of you for not pulling when it turns out those students are very useful.
>>575675870only a few minutes left until maint is over and we start seeing new shit and most likely more leaks
Fags online arent even trying to actually argue the new system being worse anymore, they just saying "but it FEELS worse" and im getting actual brain damage interacting with these retards
>>575676680>fes you can easily skip them>fes students are never meta
>>575676506>50/50 coinflip win and then pity on 2ndAnd you need to realize that the above doesn't happen in isolation but through a process of 300 rolls of not getting PU (3 coinflips losses) and 1 50/50 coinflip loss in the process towards hard pity
>>575676686hehe
>>575675339>revealing ximself as hoyotroon
>>575676682Are you including the eligma from every dupe you get in the 40 free rolls?
>>575676659>Every 100 rolls is a 50/50 on whether you get someone with a 0.7% rate up chance.Which means you won the 50/50 but it resets. So you need another 200 if you fail the coinflip for the 2nd student which is akin to getting the student on old system before 200>>575676735It's a fair comparison because it's what old system defenders are arguing about
>>575675234what other teams can I use for torment goz if I can't beat it it with the regular aris team in one turn?
>>575676848You're a brainlet more than a mathlet, it's not like the new system's PU rate has become 0%, and the only opportunity to get them is soft/hard pity
>>575676848>lose the 50/50 on not getting anyone with the 0.7% chance in rolls 1-100>win the first 50/50 for pity at 100 rolls>lose the 50/50 on not getting anyone with the 0.7% chance in rolls 101-200>lose the next 50/50 for pity at 100 rolls>lose the next 50/50 on not getting anyone with the 0.7% chance in rolls 201-300>get the pity at 300This is the scenario you are describing.
>>575677116It's just trying to compare similar scenarios>>575677182there's no 300th lose because that's the 200th pity on new system
>>575676772No, obviously I didn't and I take your point entirely. The value of an eligma changes slightly depending on how many you intend to buy. Taking the worst case scenario of getting min rolls, you'll get 76 eligma. (40 for 2*s + 36 for 1*s). I'm going to assume that if you're the kind of person rolling for dupes then you are going to want to level the student a lot, and therefore are happy to be buying more than 80 so it's 5 ligma for an eleph, which gives the worst case only a single less eleph, which will become better in the incredibly likely situation you get an extra 2*I appreciate you pointing out my mistake, thank you.
>>575677283The pity resets at 100
>>575677313Yeah, it resets at 50/50 win which is at 100
