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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9507 - Straight for male Silver Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026
https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/
>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026
https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI [Embed]
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #4 - 05 August 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026
DC X Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #5 - 02 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #91 - 28 October 2026

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https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
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Previous Zone: >>575670024
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fucking sally in her spats
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>>575728867
literally delusional to think he isn't popular in 2026, id say he is at the very least more popular among normies than every other female character, in the franchise, comparing how being female would nerf him.

>>575728893
they would still uwufy her because silvaze would be shilled more due to yuri agenda, lesbians can be woobified.
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>>575729330
>id say he is at the very least more popular among normies
there are no normies into sonic
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whispers chocolate boobies
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Douge
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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Silver looking down at pre gens Amy
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>>575729437
>Silver fans are women who go to the grocery store
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Say something nice about Cream.
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>>575729758
anon do you not go to the grocery store
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>>575729482
there are.
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>>575729843
I never leave my house
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>>575729000
raping silver like knuckles did after england lost
https://files.catbox.moe/yd2x93.jpg
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>>575729953
then how do you eat
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>>575729638
amy and male amy
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>>575154992
japanese archienic is going on a date with japanese sally and the amy with a crush is losing her shit
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>>575729980
Did that guy ever gen sonamy?
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>>575730129
buying everything online like everyone does in 2026?
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>>575730254
>that guy
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>>575730009
knuckles is so manly compared to sissyver
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no one ships this ideal ship
why
that's because one must ship everything with sonic or shadow?
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>>575730552
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>>575730642
uh oh
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every male sonic character would be less popular if they were female when you think about it
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>>575730552
https://litter.catbox.moe/xzkylt.jpg
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Were they right, bros?
https://youtu.be/bw8ayll7N0Y
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>>575730343
Duofag is a woman? That explains so much.
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Someone post that one image of Marine and Tails.
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>>575730797
cowtits are a bit too far for my tastes
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>>575729320
Image being this guy
Still desperately cling on to the hope that Sally will comeback, for 10 fucking years!
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>>575731465
reminds me of sticksfags honestly
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But Sally did come back. You can check it out right now in the Shadow Files!
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i didn't leave sonic
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>>575730641
Omega was not programed to love,you hate Omega
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>>575731617
YOU hate character development
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>>575731593
Who's Sally?
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>>575731816
I love development of all kinds! Like developing COLON CANCER
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>>575732005
Find out in the Shadow files
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>>575731816
Character development has to make sense to the characters that it develops, otherwise it's just character derailment.
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>>575732005
sarry
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>>575732005
She broke the code and tripped Sonic into marriage. then she got banished to the shadow realm. and it's about time she returns
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>>575732343
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>>575732005
Shadow's wife
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>>575732343
what
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I wish for 90s American Sonic's return. but I fear the "monkey's paw"...
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>>575732808
>Iizuka mandates everything that breaks Sonic's character
>If Iizuka retires that falls to Kishimoto
>Ian is literally the only person associated with Sega who won't go out of his way to destroy the show
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Quaver disgusts me now, he only draws obese furries now
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>>575732343
Shadow is the only masculine hedgehog in this series
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>>575729320
At least Sally has five fingers though
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>>575732343
they are both bottoms, they have to look for an Alpha (Shadow) to fill their asses while they kiss
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_arkA55U-kQ
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Sonic should have a character with this feel.
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>>575733179
Am i the only one here who unironically wishes we got Ken Penders's version of events? It sounds like some insane shit that fleetway would do. I never actually liked when Archie tried to be like the games. I didn't like the "middle ground"
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>>575733295
Why is she running like Astro Ganger
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Sonic loves Surge. He doesn't care about Amy.
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>>575733391
It's a power run.
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It's time to accept pedophilia.
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Surge's surname is Adventure
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>>575734129
What if Surge's real name is some foreign word that means Adventure
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>>575732578
>>575732623
>>575733179
>>575733191
i don't care about sonilver, sonadow or shadilver but this thing higlights when silverfags ask evan or ian to write silver as being brave or having backbone, they think that alone makes him shadow 2, because sonic fans unironically think shadow is the only male character thats like that nowadays. ship dynamics even if you arent into them are a good way to look at what the fanbase thinks about the characters or their dynamics, and this one comment reveals the unconscious of sonic fans.
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>>575733797
Which Sonic character said that?
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>>575734942
Suck the Cock
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what the fuck i wanted sticks
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Sallys
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Sticks multiverse
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>>575734942
cream
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>>575734364
It is what it is
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>>575735470
i had a white fluffy cat do id try to hug him
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>>575732343
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>>575734364
I don't care what retards on the internet think and you shouldn't either
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>>575736014
What even is this?
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>>575732005
google chris thorndyke thats her mom
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>>575736123
i care because sega doesn't and the fanbase thinks what i posted so sonic and silver will be continued to be uwufied while shadow gets some protection from sega.
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Edited cover to Archie Sonic #18 featured in the KaBlam pilot intro
N,SOIC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krbr-comoj0
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>>575736786
ok well send feedback to sega then
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>>575731816
>character development
Shut up, lol.
Character development is not "lol I made a change that pushes my ship aganeda"
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>>575736904
he really was aura farming the whole time
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>>575736860
>literally everyone has five fingers while Robotnik has four
It sucks to be an Overlander
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They were blueballing us for nothing
SHE EVEN GOT THE SPOT IN SHADOW THE MOVIE
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>>575736937
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he can't stop aura farming
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>>575734364
>ship dynamics even if you arent into them are a good way to look at what the fanbase thinks about the characters
No it isn't, because its relative. People will put characters in different roles based on the ship and their personal swlf insert fantasy bias.

Its the opposite. The ship thry like shows how they view the character.
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How is Rouge allowed to have sex with a human
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holy shit they are so young here
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>>575737741
w faps
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>>575736904
>>575737490
He fathered the series
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>>575737770
I always liked Iizuka's smirk
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>>575737882
you know he fucks
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>>575737105
Do you even care about this character?
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>>575737770
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>>575736904
Everytime I see these Naka post, I just keep having Thriftshop playing in my head.
Naka! Naka! Naka da god!
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>>575738274
>sonic jam
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>>575737248
Nepeta SEXO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sonic's canon love interest is a green cyborg girl who can keep up with him
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>>575738394
noooooooo dont sex nepeta
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>>575737874
>canon race gear
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>>575737248
>tumblrstuck
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>>575736479
It's a picture of Silver and Blaze, duh
Are you blind?
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>>575738647
mfs cant c shiet
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>>575738647
What's the point of it? Why does it have a crowd?
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>>575738801
>its silver and blaze
mfs cant read either
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Sonic 06 gets a remake, but it's rewritten by Ian Flynn. What genuinely happens?
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>>575738952
He would probably not do a lot of the things current fans hate from him. I would expect that he has Sonic vocally turn down any romance towards Elise so that his internet reputation doesn't get tied to it
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>>575738864
Motherfucker, can you just fucking tell me what this event is featuring them is? FFS, man.
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>>575738801
The point is to show Silver and Blaze in different outfits and it has a crowd because many people like the Sonic series
Do I really have to spell it out for you?
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>>575737490
He was right
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>>575738952
>sonic gets his hog elised
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>>575739102
>Motherfucker\
it is the motherfucking silver and blaze in those outfits event in fuckhole, NE. not my fault you arent caught up, motherfucker.
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>>575739192
>We redesigned Sonic to re-enforce his cool trait and shut down any hellokitty allegations
Ae due to another reboot that follows that same path? no sonic bombs doesn't count
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I don't like how Ian writes Rouge. He writes her like "femme fatale" rather than as "Rouge".
Evan actually writes Rouge like Rouge.
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>>575739192
>Classic looked too cute
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>>575739414
too much like catwoman?
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>>575739109
Can you tell why you're being some snooty cunt over it? I'm just tucking asking, you completel autist.

Can't even ask a simple question about why Silver and Blaze are on some stage with you retards.
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>>575739526
kek
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>>575739747
it look like a chilli dog
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>>575729634
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Shadow's wife.
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>>575739948
but she's sonic's wife...
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>>575733295
It does.
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>>575739948
Shadow's wife is so sexy
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Today I saw a weird fetish image of Cream, Carrrottia and Marine, what weird Sonic thing have you guy seen recently?
The fetish wasn't weird, the image was.
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>>575740250
Sonic team started looking, now she's Shadow's wife
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>>575740389
All fetishes are weird.
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>silversperg trannoid seething that people like silver
>again
Must be a day that ends with y
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>>575737770
>How it feels to be a dev on Sonic Team
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>>575738952
Obnoxious and unnecessary references to past games, Shadow jobbing, Amy lacking romantic interest in Sonic, and the test of love mini game for Sonic will be removed because it allows you to pick Amy as Sonic's true love and Ian doesn't like that. Get someone else to rewrite the game
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>>575740389
What sort of an image?
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>>575739948
Sally Asscorn
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>>575739948
He cums in her every time
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>>575740959
need more asscorn on the board pls <3 ty
&lso sticks
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>>575740787
It was just them together while touching their bare feet.
>>575740592
Looking back I think you're right.
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>>575739414
Rouge is a femme fatale you fucking retard
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>>575740616
>silversperg
You keep using this label wrong because it implies the person is a Silver fan. The proper label would be something like Anti-Silversperg.
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>>575741243
wht happened while i was gone o.o
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>>575741171
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>>575737770
Maekawa and Kazuyuki are doing Yajuu Senpai pose
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>>575739419
Yes. Legit on social media when I see people praising classic sonic its over how cute he is.
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>>575741368
awfawrfARFF ARF ARFF BARK BARk bakr barkBARK BARL BARK BARK BARK WHINEE
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>>575741243
Doesn't it mean someone who spergs out in rage at the mention of Silver?
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Is it true to Amy fans have successfully pressured Ian to write Amy like her 2000s version? This is what someone said like 1 or 2 threads ago
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>>575741426
I see more people praising Modern Sonic as cute while hating how cute "Santigo" is.
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>>575741179
Toes, paws or blobs?
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>>575739470
He just writes her as perpetually flirting. Rouge flirts but she isn't a flirt.
Her main traits are supposed to be her being self interested and materialistic.
She is supposed to have a mercenary mind that focuses on cost benefit analysis. Also gems. She likes shiny.
>>575741183
>fell for the bait
This is the problem with TvTropefags.
Rouge is A femme fatale because she falls into the category. Not because she was conceived as and written as "femme fatale".
A good writer knows the difference.
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>>575739414
Evan writes Rouge like she's supposed to (in love with shadow)
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>>575740405
Shadow licks her pussy
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Remember how 06 started Sonic's story with this cinematic intro of Sonic saving Elise from Eggman and then in the next (in-game) cutscene she gets kidnapped immediately after? And then throughout the story she gets kidnapped 3 more times?

INCOMPETENTnic.
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>>575741803
>This is the problem with TvTropefags.
> Rouge is A femme fatale because she falls into the category. Not because she was conceived as and written as "femme fatale".
> A good writer knows the difference.
What the fuck are you talking about
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>>575741923
ong
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>>575741906
Eggman was very persistent in 06
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>>575742051
Yeah, he just keeps showing the fuck up. I'm pretty sure he's just waiting for her in the castle at least once. The royal guard is genuinely useless.
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>>575741803
You're basing your entire conception of rouge based on her sa2 version. In sa2 she wasn't a fully realized character, she was lacked a lot of iconic personality traits and was fairly one dimensional.

It wasn't until heroes and SHtH where she actually had a fully developed personality.
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>>575741923
NTA but a decent writer doesn’t think in trope buzzwords
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wait who is the best sonic girl?
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Remember when Elise first laid her eyes on Sonic and for a moment saw Silver instead, but when Silver appeared in front of her twice she had no reaction or showed any indication that she recognized him? What's up with that?
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>>575738952
Ian makes changed that exist to "fix plotholes" that dont exist or that he percieves to exist while leaving actual issues untouched.
Ian focuses on servicing fanficfags over writing good story and realsing the material's actual ideas better.
He will also add a line after Soalris is beaten or after Mephiles is beaten as a backdoor sequel bait to bring him back or to call forward to Shadow Gens.

Removes Amy's scene where she chats about love and relationships with Elise and just has them talk about generic things instead to "establish theybare friends for the lore and world building".
Remove the scene where Amy says she choose Sonic over the world because its "problematic".
Save for Elise.
Rouge gets to keep hers though.
Adds lines to Blaze to have her constantly remind you she is from thr Sol Dimension in a way that is hamfisted.
Have Blaze say the worlds "Chaos Control" as she uses the Chaos emeralds before going to her dimension.
Maybe even have her saying Buuurning BLaZe! So you know she went Burning.

Stuff like that.
Reference all the fandom memes about the game.
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>>575742379
The I get to cum inside of
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>>575737578
yes, i meant relative to each other.

in ttuff like sonadow, sonilver etc. which is what i wanted to highlight, it shows the uwufication of sonic and silver in the eyes of fans which in a causal loop is both caused by western media that comes from fanon and fanon causing them to be portrayed. whereas shadow due to his edge + sega actually caring about to keep him consistent avoids it.

in something like sontails, due to the ''relativity'' you talked about you might see sonic being less uwu due to tails being the ultimate ''femboy'' adjacent in the eyes of ppl who like the ship. but that shows you the level of uwu is tails>silver=sonic>shadow relatively. based on common tropes.
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>>575742379
Amy
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>>575742196
Eggman had his Egg Carrier fly over the city and threatened to destroy it if they didn't give up Elise and she gave herself up to him.
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>>575739192
>>575739419
>>575741426
Ueakawa Sonic is a cool design so I don't the problem
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fine with shadouge
fine with shadally
shadamy is sexy
hate shadria
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>>575742535
real sht brother gotta b amy sticks is a close second (she should be the op next <3 (busty sticks frfr
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>>575741906
Mario would have handled the 06 situation better.

as shown in Sunshine.
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>>575742590
>shadouge
Unfathomably based
>shadally
Decent
>shadamy
Dogshit
>shadaria
Dogshit
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>>575741841
Evan actually writes Rouge as more annoyed with him and tardwrangling him actually. To the point Sega added some panels for having her be too annoyed eoth Shadow since she is supposed to be more supportive and understanding of him despite how antisocial he is.
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>>575742578
literal best sonic ever </3
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>>575742271
But this is you projecting your own thoughts onto Ian, Ian never said this.
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Bean
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Tails knocked up Cosmo's entire family and now he has to figure out how to take care of 10+ children.
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>>575742834
That's just because her and shadow are double tsunderes like batman and catwoman
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>>575742846
If that's true why were his games panned
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>>575742715
they should ship amy with me omfg

>>575742894
bean
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>>575741923
A good writer doesn't plug and play tropes instead of writing actual characters.
Rouge is not "femme fatale". She is Rouge. She is only "femme fatale" when you start thinking of how to categorize and organize her as a database element.
She's "a" femme fatale, not "the femme fatale"
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>>575742239
>You're basing your entire conception of rouge based on her sa2 version
I was thinking of Heroes and her Generations bio when I typed that. So no.
>In sa2 she wasn't a fully realized character
Bro is just making shit up now to create defenses for hack writers. Oh god.
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>>575743058
Rouge has always been a femme fatale
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>whereas shadow due to his edge + sega actually caring about to keep him consistent avoids it.
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>>575743039
because i want to fuck this one in the hole? its the
>coolest sonic design
motherfucker ;)
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>>575742959
Such is the burden of boy
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>>575742570
I mean yeah, that happens, but he quite literally sits there at her castle and waits for her to get back after Amy rescues her just to immediately kidnap her again.
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>>575743289
why are they all undertale characters
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>>575743213
In Sa2 all the nuance came for her character came from her relationship with shadow, with everyone else she was just a generic thief character. Not much has changed since then
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>>575742428
I get the feeling Ian would try to have Elise less involved in the plot (appear less) by either have her be an NPC in the castle or have her stay kidnapped by Eggman so Sonic would be more focused on rescuing her in order to avoid the "cringe romance" moments between them.
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Everyone should love Teirusu
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>>575742578
It brings into question the integrity of Sonic as an original idea.

>Sonic's original design is too cute to sell so we changed it.
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imagine getting mad at official writers because they don't conform to your headcanons
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>>575742379
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>>575742715
this

Trifecta ships are canon. Non canon fake ships like Silvisper are fine too Inter=trifecta ships like Shadamy are weird.
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His belly being shaped like that is the funniest thing I've ever seen
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chekpont:
>rouge is catwoman
>elise is a bad character
>sonic is breedable
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>>575743673
Based, If you're not shipping sonamy, shadouge or silvaze what the fuck are you doing lmao
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>>575742428
>Save for Elise
*same for Elise
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>>575743450
?
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>>575742873
Do you not know what NTA means?
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Stealth bestie posting today
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>>575743269
sonic is not for sex
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>>575743673
sorry but the so called "trifecta" is lame and sucks
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>>575743869
Yea, that's Tails' job.
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Sonic has more on screen chemistry and romantic tension with Knuckles than he does Amy Holes
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>>575743730
Barry has a DFC.
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>>575742428
I remember when I first got introduced media trope analysis and paternfagging and I remember how it legit made me stop enjoying media because I "knew too much" and couldn't "just enjoy it".
When you transgender trope shit and realise all of it is just autistic patternfagging by internet smart guys universalizing and codifying things and structures in western media made out of sweatshops because quantity was prioritized over quality, you start to apreciate media way more again.
In fact I apreciate media more now than I did before. Its like the bell curve meme except you get 3 cakes at the end of the curve instead of 1 vs 0.
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>>575743730
That's cool

>>575744053
Meaty boy!
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>Silver OP thread is really gay

this happens every time
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>>575744085
the perfect couple indeed
https://files.catbox.moe/nvvkpg.webp
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>>575744403
theres gayposting about every character, to be fair, i used to see it over shadow or tails the most.
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People who hate the trifecta are dumb
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>>575741735
Toes.
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They're cheaper
-Sega when asked about why they chose those writers
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>>575742578
I do prefer his Adventure area proportions. Sonic Rush Sonic in particular is really good.

Classic Sonic was "cool for a cute mascot character" modern became "a cool mascot character who could be cute sometimes".

I like both but I believe Naka was right.
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<3
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>>575744558
Sonic is never going to get with Amy
Shadow doesn't love Rouge, he doesn't love anyone
Silver doesn't even live in the same dimension as Blaze, it will never work
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>>575744415
>webp
NTA but come on, man.
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Boyest boy to ever boy.
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>>575743018
>>575742715
>>575742590
Shipping is a mental illness
Also Shadouge is slop
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>>575744127
Dfc?
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Shoulders

>>575744790
I think so too
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>>575744790
>Taiream

they have never even interacted with each other before
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>>575744821
Shadriafag...
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>>575743249
>https://youtu.be/QQbBzOvPBpc?t=9
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CAN’T HOLD ON MUCH LONGER!
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Okay fine, I'll go fap to more Rails and Tailsmy. Jeez.
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>>575743563
In case of his Adventure redesign it was done for gameplay reasons to make Sonic's design and movement more readable in a 3D space. His short stubby classic proportions and big head making it harder to read his body movement
Also having longer limbs is just more useful in general
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Any ship that makes Shadriatards cry is good now
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>>575744053
fuck yess i want a tails job <3
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stop having sexual thoughts about Miles "Tails" Prower
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>>575744906
That's cool.
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>>575744998
busting rn
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>>575745154
you could already see them toying with the idea of extending his proportions with the Sonic CD animations and the Sonic OVA, it was inevitable
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>>575743307
That's the problem with 06's story. Its the same issue as SA1. Because we are doing the multiple swperate intertwining story thing Sonic's story is boring and just because he has to show up for his mandatory scene with another character.
And because of Elise being in the mix, they have to seperate him from her over and over so he can be in his scenes with other characters without her or have his level where he isn't carrying her.

Its telling that all of Sonic's traveling companions in later games fly around or turn into equipment (are are equipment in Caliburn's case) because it makes the whole concept more convenient.
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There is a difference between ships that are so blatantly not canon that they are actually interesting like Shadicks and Shadikal vs ships where the person is just a retard who doesn't understand the characters like Shadria and Shadamy
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>>575745608
or sonamy
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You guys are not subtle at all with your bait. Try harder. I'm not going to LARP as Krack for several hours if you're not even going to try.
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>>575745154
If it was just a proportions/readability thing, I don't think they would have gone as far as they did with Modern redesigns, ST just wanted to reboot Sonic after a long hiatus. Which is fair, why not Cast a Dream and start something fresh.
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>>575743467
I could tell from thebstart you were just ship laundering lmao
Buzz off. Rouge is a jewel thief, not shadows agent secretary.
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>>575745220
I'm trying but have you seen how fucking loaded he is and im not just talking about his balls.
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>>575745849
Name five instance Rouge has stolen jewels in a game
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>>575745587
Sonic was always notably completely divorced from the story in 06. He had no idea what was going on and didn't even meet the main villain Mephiles who appeared behind him and killed him in the final story.
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guys i got this pillow printed is based or cringe? i cry myself to sleep with her every night
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Sonurge
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>>575743485
That doesnt really work though. Its the actual central core of the story. But yeah I can see him try to do that and make it more about just fighting mephiles.
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My favorite ship is [your most hated ship] and I think if you disagree with me then your a stupid stinky poppyhead with a micropenis.
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well if we're just going to be retarded, i just wanna say i am really enjoying the art of Amy and Rouge grooming Cream into a lesbian
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>>575746036
ive always thought how little sonic had to do with the actual plot was crazy. when i was a kid it felt like like it wasnt even initially supposed to be a sonic game at all or something
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>>575746036
>and didn't even meet the main villain Mephiles who appeared behind him and killed him in the final story.
I've never actually thought about this.
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>>575744598
Sega chose them to save money at the expense of the character writing. Just sack Ian Flynn, hire a Japanese writer, and put a leash on the lore team, and the writing will heal
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>>575746215
>That doesnt really work though. Its the actual central core of the story
But anon, what would make fans like you more?
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>>575743519
Blue fast hello kitty
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>>575746247
>archie
>underground
>idw

sweet mother of everythingkino
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>>575743597
>headcanons
I'll literally just reading the bios and going off the game rather than TV tropes articles.
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>>575746589
>I'll literally just reading the bios and going off the game
your headcanon interpretation of the bios and games
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>>575746812
you guys should frot and post it here
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https://files.catbox.moe/ebr2f8.mp4
Bump is well known for having extensive knowledge on monuments.
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>>575746927
rubbing our dick cheese together to make fondue
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Can you faggots please stop bullying the obvious sub-70 IQ autists on here? We get it, they're fucking retarded. Can't you find something else to do with your time other than shit this general up trying to farm them for (You)s? It's obnoxious.
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It's not a competition
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>>575746247
>biolizard dog
I like it
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>>575746937
sexy
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>>575744745
>Sonic is never going to get with Amy
That's becoming more uncertain with every passing day
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>>575747074
we'll stop bullying you and the other sub 50s bru sry luv u mwa <3
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>>575747136
That's actually just a dinosaur from Sonic Underground. It just happens to look like the Biolizard.
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>>575747085
the youth isn't the ones doing the most mentally ill schizoposting, its the old fucks
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>>575746937
What voices do you guys have e in your head for Bump and Sage?
For me Bump sounds like Starfire with a valleygirl tinge and Sage is Raven but with more yawning, sarcasm and venom in her voice.
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>>575746036
I still believe in the schizo theory that Silver's boss fights against Sonic were originally intended for Mephiles
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>>575747074
>Can you faggots please stop bullying the obvious sub-70 IQ autists on here?
no, its funnee
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>>575747413
im fucking soaking help im barking whining whaling screeching jumping barking ummmm uhhhhhh
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I think BOC has shitty writing. The whole "It's okay that you move at your own pace" thing doesn't work because it only comes up when Yuuta has to act with urgency. What does this shit even mean?
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>>575747085
Shit like this is why I kill off all my characters by the end of the story. Shipperfags are mentally ill freaks and it's up to the creator to put in safeguards to make sure they don't attach their mental illness to the series.
You ever notice that Jojo has no shipfaggotry in it? It's because at the end of every story the characters are either dead or marry someone with no face or name off screen. This is on purpose because the creator doesn't want to IP to get bogged down by disgusting yumes and fujos trying to insert fake romance into it.
The only way you get these people to fuck off is by not giving them even an inch of fan theory.
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>>575740389
Was this it?
https://www.deviantart.com/lord-okaga/art/SONIC-SAPPHICS-II-1346562105
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>>575747676
shut up and clap
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>>575747676
Doesn't it just mean it's okay for Yuta to do his own thing?
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>>575747489
tfw fag in the board telling us to stop being funny
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Sonic going "you don't have to be like me" is based actually
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>>575747085
Having your ship officially confirmed mean all the opponent ships have been eliminated and should no longer be a threat and now you get official media centered around you ship that the masses have to like as a result.
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>>575747948
and faggots hear that and say
"i wanna be like sonic"
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>>575747085
This fool is trying to speak for all shippers as if all of them don't actually care about the 2 characters getting together and only care about hints and teases. That's absolutely not true. He has no idea what he's talking about
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>>575748093
>trying to speak for all shippers
oh lawd
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>>575748027
that has literally never happened in the history of fiction
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>>575748027
That's why I'm so glad Deku and Ochaco became a couple in My Hero Academia. It drove all the obnoxious Bakudeku fujos away. There's nothing fujos hate more than heterosexuality
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I just shaved my back. I feel so fresh
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>>575746079
Did you
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>>575748374
oh look he has rocket skates like shadow
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>>575747948
Sonic is supposed to inspire people to see their own inner-strength, because Sonic is the way he is because of his own.
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Amy
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>>575747676
What should Sonic have said?
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>>575747676
Christ, anon. It's almost like Sonic says something just like this every single game.
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Comfy...
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>>575748508
Sonic is the way he is because he is fictional and the whole setting exists to make him look good
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>>575747489
If you people saw how the people you fuck with act like irl, you'd probably feel bad for what you're doing because I know in your mind's eye, your making some stupid person who looks relatively normal on some level get angry and rage but the reality is that you are bullying one of those types of people that were in special-ed. You know the really ugly dumbfucks who would shit their pants and smear it on the walls if they didn't have supervision? Thats the type of person you're screwing with. Now with that mental image in your mind, do you still think this is worth the effort? Do you still think it's funny and not an incredibly sad cycle of abuse and bullshit that leads to nowhere and gives nothing to nobody other than annoyance and headaches for third party observers?
At the very least if you just want to troll and milk lolcows, wouldn't it feel better to do it against an actual dumbass person who is relatively functional and sane? At least then you get the dopemine rush knowing that you're pissing someone off who isn't extremely mentally handicapped.
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Why would you draw that
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>>575746079
When a drawing becomes this off-model can you even still call it Amy? This is basically some new OC.
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>>575748027
You could always just scare the producers from making any ships canon and effectively win that way
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>>575748567
I utterly abhor this kind of localization. It changes the character's personalities and the worst part is that its present in Frontiers and Crossworlds
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>>575746036
It's the opposite. Sonic 06's story is about him interacting with Elise. But he has to be pulled away from it to be in other character's stories.
People who say he wasnt involved with the plot just have bias towards fighting demons with hype moments n aura.

If the game was just about Sonic, we could of had a more substantial Sonic story where he bonds with Elise, but because we need muh 3 lead characters, Sonic gets starved out and has to be a plot device in Silver's and Shadow's.
This is a case of the ShittyFriends fags being correct.
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>>575748618
amy's big breedable butt!
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>>575748027
No we do not have to like it. There are many things a fan can do without necessarily giving up on what they like
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Tails is winking at me ^-^
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>>575748972
For Lost World, the English dub is the original dialogue that was then localized into Japanese.
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>>575748689
tldr
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>>575746020
SA2
Sonic Battle
Sonic Heroes
Sonic Generations

Yes, her getting shackled to Shadow in newer material has flanderized her character, I agree
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>>575749031
He literally had no idea who Mephiles was in the game. The same guy who put a hit put on him using Silver and had the whole villainous to return to his god form by releasing his other half from Elise.
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edgelord kino
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>>575749246
>Shadow half-lid on official art
Uh oh. How's Krack going to react to this?
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>>575749268
Why bully a mentally handicapped retard when you could just bully a regular retard with the same amount of effort and effect?
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>>575749285
thats not five
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>>575749246
knuckles is gonna shove those pins up sonic's ass and then proceed to breed him with his seed
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>>575749347
i make no distinction between retards
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I'm not ever going to let Krack live down the fact that she had such a schizophrenic episode over Maria not being mentioned that she unironically believed for several weeks that the literal staff at SEGA were fucking with her specifically.
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>>575749258
Except this is a consequence of SoA having too much power and acting like European settlers. Sonic is a Japanese IP and the games are made in Japan. Sonic was conceived by three Japanese men. The games SHOULD all be made and written in Japan and localized to English but the fact that the opposite happens proves how utterly colonized this franchise is.
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>>575749554
what if she's right

wouldn't that be funny
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>>575749554
i think krack's voice is cute so i'm always on her side
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>>575749554
She was right, though.
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>>575749031
>If the game was just about Sonic, we could of had a more substantial Sonic story where he bonds with Elise
Sounds like that would have been closer to Unleashed, which is one of the more forgettable Sonic stories even when it has no glaring issues, so this

>have bias towards fighting demons with hype moments n aura.
is correct
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>>575746812
Point to where I said something that is my headcanon interpretation of the bios.
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>>575749595
Okay, but it's still Japan doing the heavy handed localization in this case.
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>she was right though.
>3 replies in less than 10 seconds
Can you guys be less obvious?
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Nobody cares about your dog romance Krack, fuck off
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>>575749702
>>575749719
Post a single piece of evidence that isn't fake. And no, schizo theories based off of an autistic foids mind isn't evidence.
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>>575749884
cope
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>>575749865
And Sonic is Japanese so that shouldn't be happening.
SoJ needs to just liquidate the majority of SoA's assets at this point. They should only exist to localize Japanese scripts and nothing else.
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>>575749865
NTA is that the dictionary definition of a hedgehog on the Japanese side as well?
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>>575747085
That's always how it is pitched, maybe even how it starts, but inevitably the people in these spaces become so invested in there own bs that they start becoming unironic ship schizos thinking they have encountered some hidden truth no one else has when its just schizophrenia. These people become invested in their ship like a real relationship.
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>>575749554
The 5 day long meltdown over the mere removal if "Shadow loves Maria" is what convinced me that woman has absolutely zero interest in the franchise beyond self inserting as a dead girl. She doesn't even like this franchise.
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>>575747676
Sonic has always had a thrmayic of "being authentic self is good actually" and that doing so makes it so you can contribute in your own unique way.
Tails and Amy are both obvious examples.
Why is this hard to get?
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>>575749865(me)
>>575750156
>DeepL:"Hedgehog"•It means " hari-nezumi." Did you know they're actually more closely related to moles than to mice?

It's pretty interesting to see the minor changes the Japanese localization of IDW does.
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>>575748473
wdym did i
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>>575750307
It’s more funny because she was sperging out for Sonamy as well to pretend that the issue was affecting everyone when Shadria was the only thing she was butthurt at
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>>575750095
i think someone at SoJ was like shocked that SoA couldn't even develop games lol
it's a literal useless garbage branch that does nothing and in fact makes things worse, we'd be better off without it
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>>575750526
because it's non-advice
its psuedo philosophical bullshit that helps no one
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>>575747948
It is! More people should learn to be like sonic and support people being their own self instead of Sonic+

...stares at characterfags
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>>575750829
she's dead retard
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Tailsfag, your mask is slipping. Funny how you only want people to go back to on topic discussion ONLY when Krack is brought up.
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>>575748646
>a story is a story because it is written by people
No shit sherlock
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>>575750627
Actually they work 14 hours a day
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actually i think we should talk about how hot amy is so change the whole thread to that pls ty
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>>575750909
>slipping
We've confirmed that one of the two Tailsfags on here is her trying to cover her ass. In hindsight it was kind of obvious because they only pop up in here when discussions about her or Shadria start being brought up.
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>>575751064
Amy is 12 years old
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Sonic's ass
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>>575751108
A 12 year old with an apartment, a license, and very big boobs.
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>>575750885
No, she's right here!

>>575750909
>[namefag]
Talk about Sonic?
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>>575751092
how r there so many shippers here that care so much oh my fuck no shade @ any1 in particular
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>>575748646
Yes...and then for all the crazy shit he does and things he accomplishes, you talk to him and ask him what is it abput him that makes him so incredible and he says "im just a guy that loves adventure"
That's literally the point.
Its supposed to show everyone has their style, there way. Their own way.
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>>575751187
Glad to see you finally dropping the whole "im just an innocent Tails poster" bullshit.
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>>575751183
that is off model
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>>575751108
uuuuoooooohhhhhhh
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>>575751174
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>>575751291
Dramashitter I don't care about your shitty conspiracy theories about who is who
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>>575748689
Shut up Boom!Amy.
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You’re, tailsfag always wants to derail any discussion about Krack whenever she is mentioned and only her specifically
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>>575751303
no it's not, ian
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>>575751281
That shows an incredible lack of life experience by you
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>>575751060
what do they do for 13+ hours a day
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>>575751428
good call boom amy is also mad sexy
also sticks too
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>>575751518
find new an (un)interesting ways to make amy trans
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>>575751518
lurk twitter
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>>575749294
Whats your point? The story isn't about Mephiles. Its about Elise. Mephiles is barely a character. He's a metaphor for obsessing over wanting to control time.
>>575749764
It would have been more like Secret Rings. If we had no Shadow or Silver, Sonic would be the one fighting Iblis and Mephiles instead.
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>>575751639
threesome time :D
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Shadouge will never be canon
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>>575751608
I actually don't think they want to make Amy trans. If anything they're making her the most generic white woman you've ever seen with her liking true crime and Taylor Swift.
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>>575750652
How? If anything a lot of people in this fandom have proven how good this advice is given how famous the fandom is for creative output.
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>>575747839
Yuta can do his own thing....as long as it involves saving the world.

>>575748592
>>575750526
Legit question, has Classic Sonic ever said or done anything like >>575747676

I feel like it's a Modern invention, idk.
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>>575752215
>If anything a lot of people in this fandom have proven how good this advice is given how famous the fandom is for creative output.
You mean like Christine Chandler
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>>575752167
>>575751990
>>575748618
>>575748891
>>575747413

i asked and u guys straightup delivered , bigups gg. best thread on the forum.
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>>575752316
>I feel like it's a Modern invention, idk.
It is a modern invention. He never does any corny shit like that in the Sonic OVA.
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Tails is so curvy
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>>575751457
...because I can explain the obvious themes in a game series made for tweens and you can't?
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>>575751547
>mad sexy
Autists when they see cartoon animal characters with half-lid eyes who acts like their nagging mother.
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>>575752682
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>>575752316
>Legit question, has Classic Sonic ever said or done anything like
Classic Sonic himself doesnt have much material of him talking to begin with, but the main thing going for him is the box quotes written as Sonic speaking to the reader.
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>Check archive
>Filter to see only the Tailspics and then when Krack is mentioned in the thread
>For the past 5 months, literally without a single hiccup or skip, everytime Krack is brought up and talked about Tailsspamming happens often with him complaining about being off topic

Wow I didn't notice how often this happened. It's a literal 1:1 correlation.
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>>575752870
One of the box quotes refers to Sonic in third person though, in the Sonic & Knuckles cover
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>>575752324
>Fagging about chrischan in 2026
He wasnt even really a Sonicfan so much as a Pokémon one to begin with. Why do Sonicfans get all the splash back
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>>575752519
>obvious themes

its sonic bro
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>>575753014
Jesus she really is the cancer of this general
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>>575744403
Aged like milk
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>>575753014
Clearly the tailsfags are the problem.
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>>575753014
You solved it, congrats!
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>>575753014
krek
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Cute
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>>575753019
Sure, but regardless the intention is there. It's also in the lyrics of the songs. Cosmic Eternity is basically the "be true to who you are and dont let others mold you into something you are not" thing in general.
https://youtu.be/54buz4h3b3Q

You can argue we dont have a scene of Sonic explicitly talking to a character in the classic era saying stuff like that, but that is to be expected. They were genesis and Saturn games.
But the intention and themes were there from the start.
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>>575753484
>But the intention and themes were there from the start.
no they weren't
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>>575753014
Idk if this Tailsfag and the Tailsfag on /fast/ are the same one but the one on fast literally said he was friends with Krack.
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>>575753484
I'm pretty sure Cosmic Eternity is about... Believing in yourself. Which is the most basic theme in anything ever
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sick of this bullshit kill tails and glazeamy for the rest of time
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>>575752870
>Classic Sonic freaking out and yelling at Yuta to hurry the fuck up and slow the train down.

There's also like, OVA.
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>>575753484
You are right sonic, im gonna do it, some of you guys are ok don’t go to SEGA of America tomorrow
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>>575753636
It's basic because it's the solution to the majority of every problem you have had and will ever have in life. No shit plenty of media will have believing in yourself as a theme.
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This is too funny to me lolololololol
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Do you bros hate Silver?
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>>575753909
we love silver we love amy and we fucking hate tails
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>>575753909
Yes.
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>>575753026
Yes! Sonic! Not Turtleslop.


https://youtu.be/mjteXqRbGN0
https://youtu.be/mXY6yjM2m84
https://youtu.be/TdfMa3tlf14
https://youtu.be/uSKAc4E3YRs
https://youtu.be/JiJExfwlST0
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>>575750095
And those scripts need to be faithful translated from Japanese into other languages but if the scripts are written in English first, then they need to be in character and not remove anything from the characters personalities
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If it isn't the 4th wheel
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>>575754081
its fourth wall idiot
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i want chicken, i want liver
please make sega delete silver
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>>575753539
Sure bro
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>>575753754
Amy's BUTT!
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>>575753909
He's fictional, some places i love him some places i hate him, it's so happen that Sega can't fucking make him look good.
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>>575753909
I think he's like Raiden. Very rough start, but slowly warmed up.
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>>575754059
>then they need to be in character and not remove anything from the characters personalities
Nope, doesn't apply the other way around, since these are Japanese characters that were changed by the American writers who think they know better. They genuinely thought Sonic character design should be like California Raisins.
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>>575753636
>dont rearrange. No need to change. Stay like you are and keep it all the same.
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>>575753909
ye
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>>575754191
Classic Sonic had an hour fucking long OVA and he never says any shit like that so you can shut the fuck up
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>>575754343
its actually so fucking good bro holy shit
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>>575754081
That line is dumb because its Ian being meta again. Also there isn't such a thing as a 4th wheel.
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>>575754528
its a fucking kart racer with spongebob in it

shut the fuck up
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>Silver to Dapple in the next IDW storyline.
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>>575738952
>Sonic 06 gets a remake, but it's rewritten by Ian Flynn.
Why are we pondering about things that will never happen?
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>>575753639
They should kiss.
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>>575754343
>You've got to have some faith in yourself if you want respect from your friends
It's kino
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>>575754608
To make themselves angry, or, alternatively, to laugh at hypotheticals based on the absurd behaviors of known people
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>>575754334
Then let a Japanese writer handle the characters. They don't have agendas to change the characters unlike Ian Flynn and the lore team.
All the problems the lore team is responsible for only exist because Sonic Team doesn't bother to put a leash on the lore team. That's why Silver is written as an UWU coward in IDW and why Amy's love for Sonic is being censored
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>>575754343
>But as you move along, in your life, keep an open mind, and don't forget
>That if you gotta do something, gotta do something
>Believe in yourself
>Yourself
>Yourself!! Hey!!
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>>575737490
mi solemn heroe
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>>575754660
the only way they would ever kiss is if sonics cock was between them
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>>575754374
The ova was about Sonic vs Metal Sonic. It was a pilot for a series. If Sonic interacted with other characters he undoubtedly would have but there was no one to do so with.
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>>575754793
I don't disagree at all. SoA just ruins everything it touches. SoJ needs to get a handle on them so they do as minimal damage as possible.
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>>575754608
>Jeet kun do
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Do the Ninja Turtles look uglier than they do in the movie in Crossworld? I think they look decent enough in the movie where everyone is ugly as sin, but they somehow look worse in the game...
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>>575754938
SoA is the only reason you even know about this stupid series retard
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>>575754594
BlackBlur...
They hyped up the rival banter in promos. Im sorry for having a damn opinion about it on a basket weaving forum?
Touch grass?
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>>575754528
>meta is...le bad!
Meta isn't inherently bad at all. It's when it's used inappropriately that there's a problem.
Also no shit there's no such thing as a 4th wheel, that's what makes the joke land. She's a "4th" ""member"" but is basically a tagalong for a dynamic that already works and doesn't need her. It's basically customizing a well known idiom for a specific roast.
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>>575755009
shut the fuck up
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>>575754608
People said this when people talks about him hypothetically writing for a game
Then it happened.
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>>575755007
Someone's pissy about the truth.
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>>575755129
And its going to keep happening, and there is nothing you can do about it
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I don't trust the japanese to write Sonic unless it's Maekawa, Akinori Nishiyama, or Asahiko Kikuchi
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>>575754732
People will try and tell you this wasnt there from day 1 because they grew up with lolcalization propaganda.
Unfortunate.
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>>575755238
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>>575755238
i'll piss on you if you keep being flip with me bitch
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>>575750443
.execaca, why do you keep cancelling people over fucking nothing?
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>>575755409
>being flip with me bitch
help
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>Amy chases Sonic around
>Basically obsessed with him, gets called a loon multiple times by different characters, and for good reason
>Gets stronger, more capable, more confident, betters herself, completely outgrows the helpless damsel role
>Immediately loses interest in Sonic
hmm...
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>>575755318
holy shit i can't stand that uwuver is in everything
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>>575755007
Uh oh westie melty
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>>575755346
it literally wasn't
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>>575755007
SoA ought to be nothing more than a marketing, translation, and localization branch that's under close supervision by the Japanese branch
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>>575755536
why do you hate silver?
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>>575729000
There's something inside you
It's hard to explain

They're talking about you, boy
But you're still the same

There's something inside you
It's hard to explain

They're talking about you, boy

But you're still the same~
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>>575736479
Chinese Sonic fan event
https://twitter.com/xqyh55s48/status/2082337568297750926

https://twitter.com/miijiu_art/status/2081926594512523486
https://twitter.com/miijiu_art/status/2081920755550523842/
https://twitter.com/miijiu_art/status/2081921288457875606
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The new Spider-man movie has a Archie Sonic reference in it and you'll know it when you see it
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>>575755705
Why do you hate Silver?
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>>575755063
>meta is...le bad!
I didn't say that.
But in this case it is. Its a line that doesnt make sense in universe. Its Ian mocking Amy to the fans through Jet rather than the writing being meta to be clever or interesting.
Its an annoying aspect of Ian's writing in general. It always feels every now and again that he is handpuppeting the characters to talk to the audience rather than leaning on the 4th wall a little like a decent writer does.
If you want an example, compare how SuperBoyPrime is written.
He'll straight up say shit like "i'm a powerscaler's dream" and it works because he has meta knowledge in universe.
Its also how Undertale works so well.

Ian is less "writing meta" and more "writing like a fanfic writer" when he does things like that.>>575755063
>Also no shit there's no such thing as a 4th wheel, that's what makes the joke land. She's a "4th" ""member"" but is basically a tagalong for a dynamic that already works and doesn't need her. It's basically customizing a well known idiom for a specific roast.
But none of that is real because Team Sonic isn't a thing and Amy isn't considered a 4th wheel on any context in universe. It's just a fandom discourse thing. It doesn't make sense for Jet to say.
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>>575755918
whaaaaat thats cool
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>>575756043
>>575755705
Both Silvers are valid, this is a cool kids franchise
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>>575756043
why are you posting a screencap from a non canon spin off
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>>575755128
>Didn't deny it
Go back to Twitter.

>>575755263
I don't remember saying I hate that he does?
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>>575756076
fuck that shit, sonic heroes 2 has you play as the four of them
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>>575755503
>Loses interest in Sonic
Lore team's fault and also Sonic Team's fault for not stopping it. I'm so happy the lore team was exposed for censoring Amy's love in her SoA bio. Chris Hernandez had to damage control after it. The lore team's cover of secrecy is completely blown now. From now on, every time Amy's love Sonic is absent, people will all know the lore team is responsible for it.
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>>575756218
I don't know, why do you hate Silver?
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>>575755503
>gets called a loon multiple times by different characters
Never happened
>>575755503
>>Gets stronger, more capable, more confident, betters herself, completely outgrows the helpless damsel role
>>Immediately loses interest in Sonic
Fanfiction
Amy got stronger and more capable when she was chasing Sonic. See Heroes and Battle.
She is actually more of an NPC now than she was before.
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>>575729827
Un? Forgettable.
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>>575756364
sonic 06 literally never happened
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>>575756218
It is canon, just late.
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Imagine arguing with a 30yo woman over Silver
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>>575756491
ghost amy smut next please waiter
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>>575754528
sonic riders has amy completely sidelined because sonic just wants to be with tails and knuckles. There are a lot of reasons why Jet would make that joke
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>>575756076
>That line is dumb because its Ian being meta again.
>because it's Ian being meta
How is this not saying meta is bad? Unless you're saying Ian being meta is bad. If so my point remains exactly the same regardless of who is writing it.
>the rest
Butthurt Amyfag melty. Amy is absolutely a tacked on tagalong that's been forced into the trio as an unneeded 4th extra. It absolutely makes sense for Jet to say in a META sense, and meta is not inherently bad, as I said.
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>>575756432
oh no no no
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>>575756218
>he hasn't heard about canon-informacy™
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>>575756563
https://litter.catbox.moe/g84u31.jpg
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you guys actually piss me the fuck off
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>>575755554
Yes it was.
>>575756076 (me)
Adding to this, I imagine that's why the japanese version removed it. Its something that would make 0 sense to anyone else but western internet fandom gremlins having proxy fights though the characters.
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>>575754594
>its a fucking kart racer with spongebob in it
>shut the fuck up
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>>575756696
>TSR
>Canon
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>>575756432
It happened but then it un-happened.
But the vague memories of it persist
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>>575756741
>>575756769
u guys r likemy real life heroes 2nite lmfao
regardless of whatevr everybodys upto on this thread i hope youre all having a great night bros
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>>575756993
>But the vague memories of it persist
thats just the series being meta
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>>575755635
Retard who thinks his opinions matter or will affect the franchise lol. We are literally getting western writers hired as storytellers for pennies. This franchise will continue to be Western dominated especially as Japan loses its population to old age and matters increasingly less as a market. Demographics are destiny and the future belongs to the United States.
You are never getting 'Japanese Kino Sonic' again. This company and franchise's future is American-driven and AI-powered.
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>>575756078
He's making a cuck joke bro there's no Archie Sonic reference in the movie
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I neeed that smelly cock on my face
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>>575756645
>sonic riders has amy completely sidelined
No she isn't though. She entered the race and lost. That's all there is too it.
>because sonic just wants to be with tails and knuckles
That's not true lol. He reacts to her flirting with him and from there they are just together at the tournament.
>There are a lot of reasons why Jet would make that joke
No not really.
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>>575756975
You're coming up with excuses kek.
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>>575757209
liar
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>>575757217
get outta here homo, these are hetero hours
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>caring about "canon" for hello kitty for boys mascot franchise written by AI and corpos whose original auteurs have little involvement in the current state of affairs and focusing on second rate OCs literally whos like Silver
Cucked general. Zoomer occupied. All of you, up against the wall. Chachacha.
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>>575756651
>How is this not saying meta is bad?
Because its "Ian being meta again" rather than Ian "being meta" again.
Its the way Ian does it that he always does that is the issue.
>>575756651
>Butthurt Amyfag melty. Amy is absolutely a tacked on tagalong that's been forced into the trio as an unneeded 4th extra.
Proving my point.
Jet is a stand-in your STK fags in that scene rather than speaking as Jet.
Its not even about being an Amyfag. Idgaf about TeamShit in general.
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>>575757125
No, the game literally ends on Elise having vague memories of it

https://youtu.be/BOd4wbF5jcM?t=1001

Its canon. Not just a meta-joke.
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>>575757754
Its canon that it never happened
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>>575757147
>especially as Japan loses its population to old age
Westies pushing this meme when this is actually more of a problem in America than Japan because westies get their info from internet memes made in 2016.
Jejj
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>>575757498
Anon you spend a lot of time thinking about Ian, are you in love with him?
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>>575757891
>Westies pushing this meme when this is actually more of a problem in America
No its not.
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>>575757432
>caring about "canon" for hello kitty for boys mascot franchise written by AI and corpos whose original auteurs have little involvement in the current state of affairs
Not true. Iizuka, Toyota and Nakamura are still involved. Kishimoto too.
>and focusing on second rate OCs literally whos like Silver
Woah now lets not get carried away. I have my limits. Shitver can suck eggs lol
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>JPchad arguments: American writers keep going against the original vision and integrity of the franchise
>Westnigger arguments: SALES SALES SALES MONEY MONEY SALES SALES MONEY MONEY POPULAR = GOOD BECAUSE MONEY
Once you notice it you can't unnotice it.
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>>575757885
Its canon that it happened because the characters have vague memories of it.
It unhappened so its there.
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>>575758193
Both are credible arguments.
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>>575758193
>>JPchad arguments: American writers keep going against the original vision and integrity of the franchise
This franchise doesn't have integrity
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>>575758013
>wow, you jews sure think about nazis a lot
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>>575758013
Yes. With how often he speaks in references and song lyrics, you can tell he is on fact a Sonic fan because we all do it.
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>>575758376
I think they think about Muslims more desu
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>>575758138
It is. Its a First World Problem on general. Japan actually doesnt have it much worse than every other first world nation. It just got reported in Japan first.
But if you check the stats its actually way worse in the US.
Obesity rates contribute to the higher number
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ian has been in the thread the whole time
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>>575758370
>This franchise doesn't have integrity
Yeah that's kind of the issue we have right now which is why people are against it.
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>>575758558
>But if you check the stats its actually way worse in the US.
No its not
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>>575758193
That's being too generous because when you examine things further, the money follows japanese stuff anyway. The japanese talent made the stuff that made money. Westshitters just point to the fact it makes money in NA as if its an argument.
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>>575758551
based dude ong
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>>575729000
Made for aggressive flirting by older women.
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>>575758698
>he japanese talent made the stuff that made money
The movies were made in America
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>>575758658
Go check for yourself. Google is your friend. You like AI so go for it too.
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>>575758820
>trusting AI
I knew you were fucking retarded
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>>575756401
>Never happened
Do you think you could maybe play the games?
>Amy got stronger and more capable when she was chasing Sonic. See Heroes and Battle.
Do you think you could maybe learn to read?
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>>575758898
dont trust ai for anything real and dont replace actual art with ai generated images in the real world but generating busty pink hedgehogs for a 4chan thread is probably based /gen
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>>575759056
It's not like whiteboardfags will draw any
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>>575758776
And if it weren't for JPCHADs like Hesse and Iizuka saving it, it would have crashed and burned because Westniggers wanted le realism meme and it make it generic animal friend movie where Sonic is a delinquent and needs a cop to each him to be responsible.
I promise you that shit would not have did well lmao.

But again this is what i mean.
You tards did the same with trying ti go "STI is Murican therefore Sonic 2 and 3 is thanks to Murica"
....even though it was made by the japanese staff.
"EsAyToo was made in Murica!!"
...By Japanes staff.

SoA has been a long history of moose just trying to take credit for an IP they didnt make.
No Marilynn Schroeder isnt the mother of Sonic lmao.
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>>575759204
>And if it weren't for JPCHADs like Hesse
Hesse is American
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>>575757273
>That's not true lol. He reacts to her flirting with him and from there they are just together at the tournament.
No they aren't, the fuck are you talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9x8uED4gn0
Sonic is usually just with Tails and Knuckles in this game. Goddamn, can you people play the games????
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>>575759012
>Pic related
Dub fanfiction. Also Rouge is a bad guy, especially on that game. The game treats Amy's love as a good thing. Cream talks about how Amy's love is good because it shows she is willing to do anything for those she cares about.

>>575759012
>Do you think you could maybe learn to read
...speak for yourself?
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>>575759259
why would we play the games dude, they're bad
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>>575756741
Waow, she's pooing ectoplasm
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>>575759257
An American who likes and respects the JP stuff, yes.
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>>575759393
Amy is crazy in both languages you fucking simp
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>>575758193
The original vision and integrity has been lost. JPslop eaters aren't any different from the western trash defenders
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>>575759523
>respects the JP stuff
Nobody does that.
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>>575759259
Why are you cherrypicking a cutscene like they arent together in the following one?
Literally the one that plays before the Babylon garden rises lol
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>>575759602
And nobody should because its bad, hence why the series does so poorly in Japan
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>>575759529
>crazy
?
Bratty sure, but not crazy.
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>>575757498
Yeah no there's nothing wrong with being meta and this isn't how Ian usually does the meta schtick anyway. Here it wasn't a random lore tidbit being forced in by word of mouth, nor was it an empty reference for the sake of making a reference just because...look a reference! In this case, it was used to characterize Jet. It actually served a purpose. And Amy IS a fourth wheel IN-UNIVERSE so it's not even characterizing him based on something that only exists IRL rather than in-universe. He even doubles down by borderline explaining it in the very next line: "Let me guess: Sonic and the others ditched you again!" That's completely in-universe. But it's meta because of how Amy has been depicted lately.
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>>575759837
her behavior is INSANE, not bratty
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>>575758193
Go broke then, you repulsive seachink
>>
In general ive noticed an increase in Westoid chauvanism as of late. Its not even chuddy thing specifically either. Leftoids are doing it too. I imagine it has to do with the general malaise if the west especially in the US as a result of the weakening relevance of their hegemonic grip via hard power in an increasingly soft power based world order.
Its fascinating really. But I guess you shouldnt be shocked when you build your foundation off the same playback as the Roman Empire.
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>>575758370
nobody but zoomer uncs play pubg
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/sthg/ really struggles with the fact that Sonic is only popular because of what America turned it into.
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>>575759393
>Dub fanfiction.
>He's a chinger
figures
>Also Rouge is a bad guy, especially on that game. The game treats Amy's love as a good thing.
Why are you telling me this lol? You said it never happened now you're trying to explain why it doesn't matter that it happened? Cope and rope.
>...speak for yourself?
??? What did I misinterpret that you wrote? Are you pulling comebacks out of a hat?
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>>575759938
What does she do that is insane? She calls Emerl mom practice test and starts training him and teaching him to be respectful and then trains with him after trying to rescue him from Rouge and feeling guilty about not being strong enough.

Her writing isn't my preference since she acts like they reverted her to 8 years old, but i wouldn't call her insane.
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Tianmen Square Massacre
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There is no such thing as good American Sonic media.
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>/sthg/ really struggles with the fact that Sonic is only popular because of what America turned it into
But when i bring up Madeline crimes to the franchise, the American cocksucking stops.
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>>575759398
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>>575759653
...WHAT? I can't cherrypick here, you said they were just together from then on, all I need is one cutscene to prove you wrong. Now cope.
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>>575760165
If America had its way Sonic would look like California Raisins, kek
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>>575760165
Japanese Sonic is very limited in appeal yes, SoA basically made the IP appealing worldwide.
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Sonic peaked at SA2: a japanese game with good gameplay and every mistranslated english line as quotable as any meme
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>>575759848
>this isn't how Ian usually does the meta schtick anyway.
It literally is. He does it all the time. Like him going on about le Sonic Cycle being his just thinly veiled criticism about having to write the book with guidelines, or having Tails call himself "Wildly Inconsistent" or having Knuckles joke about "going Super Knuckles". None of these things make sense for the characters to say in universe and dont make sense for the story to say narratively. But they do make sense as things Ian is saying through the character to the fandom embroiled in fandom discourse online.

The online time I found it landed was with the endgoal joke. That was funny.
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>>575739526
Fan event in china showing fanart.

is that what you were asking about?
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>>575760745
SA2 was the first bad Sonic game for many people
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>>575759837
She literally schizos out and hallucinates Sonic coming to help her protect their robot buddy because she thought of it as Sonic's attempt at practicing for their future together if they had children. She even talks to the hallucination and becomes STRONGER from it. She's batshit insane.
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The only good American is
>Ben Hurst
>Don Goddard
>Mark Cerny
>Patrick Spaziante
>Tyson Hesse
>Evening Star (whenever they're not working on tumblr ugly flops)
>ChakraX
>BlackDevilX (RIP)
I could add to this list but it's probably going to be a bunch of sonictwt people begging me to add Ian Flynn into the list.
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>>575759848
>In this case, it was used to characterize Jet. It actually served a purpose.
But its rival banter. You can have jet trash talk her based on actual traits she has instead of meta discourse in the fandom. The Japanese version does this exact thing, shitting on her boarding ability saying she is better at baking cookies than boarding.

This os literally just you going "its good because I agree with it and it panders to me" lol.
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>>575760745
This characters always feels like someone's lame self-insert, notice how Sonic has to be OOC for her to look like she stands out at all.
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i geuinely don't understand how someone can grow up and simp for amy rose of all rodents
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>>575760863
It was also the last good Sonic game for many people

>>575760895
Don't forget Ben Bates
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>>575760657
Worse, an actual game mechanic on shipping.
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>SoA basically made the IP appealing worldwide.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>575760323
>Why are you telling me this lol? You said it never happened now you're trying to explain why it doesn't matter that it happened? Cope and rope.
Its called a steelman, idiot. Im appealing to your JPschizophrenia in advance, anon. Even if I play by your rules, it doesnt work.
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>>575760751
>having Knuckles joke about "going Super Knuckles".
How is this even meta?
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>>575761038
same can be said for shadow btw
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>>575760650
No i didn't... I said "they are just together at the tournament." She isn't completely sidelined. In fact she is the one that proactively tries to stop Eggy when he makes off with the cube.
Meanwhile Knuckles is just...here...standing around.
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>>575760972
>based on actual traits she has
They ARE TRAITS SHE HAS FOR THE ONE HUNDREDTH TIME.
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Why hasn't IDW gone bankrupt?
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>>575761183
Because its not a thing in universe. Its why he has to have it in quotes. Its to refer the the fandom discourse about him having a super form or not without being direct about it. You can argue that's more him planting seeds and limit testing instead of writing which is a seperate issue if you want though.
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>>575761091
That's not a steelman dumbfuck, that's called a cope. You were wrong, cope and rope.
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>>575761602
its based in Claifornia so probably fraud is involved somehow
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>>575758589
>right now

This was from 2003.
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>>575743563
He did legit get better at drawing Sonic as time went on, plus showing the game world/action is more of a shelf-eyecatcher.
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>>575761247
Who is ooc to make Shadow look cooler?
Other than Rouge which doesn't count
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>>575761821
>Who is ooc to make Shadow look cooler?
Sonic
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>>575761539
Her being "the 4th wheel" isnt a trait she has. Its metashit about how she is viewed in the fandom by some people.
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>>575743058
stop with this "database" nonsense.

tropes are a useful way to analyze characters and stories and such.
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>>575761706
Except I wasn't. You said everyone "rightfully calls her obsessed.
Even in that clio its literlly just Rouge saying Sonic finds her annoying.
But thanks your proving its just your weird shiptard derangement going on.
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>>575761767
Yeah, Greg Martin gets too much hate. He just drew what he was told to draw.
His style itself isnt bad.

>>575761986
>stop with this "database" nonsense
What the heck are you talking about?
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>>575729212
>fucking sally in her spats
fucking sally in her spats
fucking sally in her spats.
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>>575761602
It's funded by Mossad
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alright fuck this i'm gonna go jerk off

tags: hololive armpits

its gamer time
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>>575761445
>from there they are just together at the tournament.
"From there" Sonic and co are together WITHOUT Amy, JUST LIKE at the beginning of the game up until she's introduced. I don't agree with the anon that said she was completely sidelined but she was definitely a tagalong to an already functioning group.
>Attacking Knuckles now
Why are Amysissies like this? I don't even know why you're telling me she went after Eggman, like, do you want a cookie? It doesn't have anything to do with the discussion of who Sonic surrounds himself with.
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>>575762246
Really? Does antisemite Gigi still work for IDW?
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This is what Americans did to this franchise
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>>575761986
Sparky...
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>>575762287
am i an amy sissy if i want to fuck her raw no cover
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>>575761859
Sonic is probably MOST Sonic-y when he's with Shadow.
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>>575762367
what are you, homophobic?
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>>575762441
most loose ?
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>>575762002
...The FUCK are you talking about? I said she got called a loon, you said it never happened, I proved it did. Where did you get shippershit from???
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>>575762287
>Attacking Knuckles now
How is pointing out Knuckles just standing around doing nothing an attack?

>I don't even know why you're telling me she went after Eggman, like, do you want a cookie?
Yes!
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>>575762441
The fact that you think that is proof you are fucking retarded and most likely a secondary
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>>575762157
>What the heck are you talking about?
>>575743058
>She is only "femme fatale" when you start thinking of how to categorize and organize her as a database element.
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>>575762402
Ummm no, I mean yes. Nnyes....maybe...No.
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>>575762568
>I said she got called a loon,
And she didn't. You didn't prove shit lol. You played yourself and I played along.
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>>575762587
>How is calling Knuckles a bump on a log attacking him
lol? Can women be more disingenuous?
>Goes back too the kiitchem
Finally, now THIS is Sonic!
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>>575761767
Don't get me wrong, I like Gregnic there were actually two Gregs and think the American box art's approach to selling a moment often looked better than the Japanese avant-garde graphic design approach.

I just think people should use caution when talking about ST, Sonic and integrity, as ST was just as willing to change Sonic as SoA was, if they thought it would sell better.
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>>575753014
I don't do it consciously, but I may be fascilitating such behavior in the other tailses...I'll be aware of this in the future, thanks.
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>>575762680
Oh you mean databasification.
No actually it isn't. Its mostly just autistic patternfagging. Tropes are tools, nor media analysis.
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>>575762712
? You literally tried to cope by saying Rouge is a bad guy so it doesn't matter lmfao bye
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u guys are talkinbout some crazy shipping shit that im not rlly uptodate with. u guys should summarize your lore rightquick i will stick around and read it but im gonna go to bed. gnight thread. thanks for all the busty pink hedgehogs. im the girl with the weird amy bodypillow & im gnna go cuddle her and look at scary tails doll to sleep bye :3
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why the fuck are there women here
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>>575762834
>Can women be more disingenuous?
Bro thinks im a foid lmao.
>Goes back too the kiitchem
Imagine not knowing how to cook as an adult. Ain't ever getting any like that dude. Ladies like food too.
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>>575762964
>Its mostly just autistic patternfagging.
i'm so tired of seeing "autistic" thrown around for literally everything that relates to media or how fans engage with media.
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>>575761767
90s cover arts were so fucking unspeakably kino
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>>575763114
>autistic patternfagging
dude holy shit im crine
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>>575762587
>haha cuckles is so lame and useless sitting at his cuck rock all day he should be vaulted
>hey what if they introduced some temporary narrative reason knuckles has to leave, like what if he focused on treasure hunt-
>NOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DO YOU HATE HIM HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A GUARDIAN

This is almost word for word what discussions regarding that topic are like
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>>575763025
have a good night
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>>575763084
>why the fuck are there women here

SA2 brought them
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>>575762861
>as ST was just as willing to change Sonic as SoA was, if they thought it would sell better.
But Sonic's changes were artistically driven as stated by the devs and Naka himself.
The Adventure style redesign was chosen because they didnt like him being reduced to a sickeningly cute character when he was supposed to be cool and and an edge to him. That on top of making him better for 3D and posing.
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Your mascot's my best friend!
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>>575763098
>Bro thinks im a foid lmao.
Foid is a state of mind
>Imagine not knowing how to cook as an adult.
You think I don't know how to drive because I have a chauffeur..?
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>>575763184
is recognizing patterns a bad thing now
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>>575763312
this faggot does not have a chauffeur
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>>575762989
>im not coping you are
Lmao shiptards. So what is it this time? Sonurge? Sonally?
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>>575763084
cute animals
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>>575763382
nothing like that bro, it was just an absolutely flooring term that ive never heard muttered before lol
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>>575763114
Sparky...
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>>575763407
>I mindbroke him so hard he started boogeymanning
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>>575763407
its fucking MEally time bitches. >meally, Anonally, whtevr. IM sally's wife/husband none of those faggy hedgefucks
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>chicas are here
Alas, I'm taken.
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>>575762964
>databasification.
what the FUCK is that???
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>>575763689
whats the fuck is a chica. fnaf?
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Are you leaving in a hurry? Don't forget the ultimate curry!
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>>575763201
>haha cuckles is so lame and useless sitting at his cuck rock all day he should be vaulted
Nobody said this but thanks for sharing your fears and concerns, Knuckbro.

>hey what if they introduced some temporary narrative reason knuckles has to leave, like what if he focused on treasure hunt-
>NOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DO YOU HATE HIM HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A GUARDIAN

Knuckles doesn't do anything in Riders. Him being a treasure hunter doesnt factor into it at all so it doesnt matter.
He's just the blockhead who punches Storm off his board and gets into a meathead gag scene with him later.

Reason people bring up his guardian shit is for this resson because its what gives him substance rather than just being angry red punch guy who gets mad at big words.

ZG was a bit better about it I guess since he reads ancient texts that one time and knows what the Gigan rocks are. Though Amy is with them the whole time anyway.

Its a limited way of trying to justify his presence in stories that only really worked in Adventure because of his gameplay.

Not even trying to squash anything knuckles is my 4th fave character. Just clarifying why this happens.
People are too caught up in his duty as a "problem to solve" when its never been the a real issue with him not guarding the emerald.
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>>575763781
Huh? Didn't they teach you some basic español in la escuela? Or did they teach you something else at your school?
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>>575764161
I'm going to guess your others.
Sonic, Amy and...SilveR?
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>>575763312
>Foid is a state of mind
That you can't discern apparently. Unless youre just that much of a fucking beta.
>You think I don't know how to drive because I have a chauffeur..?
As an Amyfag I feel obligated to say yes because she has banted at Blaze over this exact joke.
Also, mommy and daddy's money is wasted on you if you posting here lmao
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>>575764217
I dropped out and alls I know is "ching chong lo mein fong!"
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>>575763663
Based actually . Where's the fanart?
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why is there a richie with a fucking chauffeur here
why not just run like sonic everywhere
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>>575764273
Beautiful art
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>>575764595
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>>575764741
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>>575763775
Its a term coined by Lev Manovich in his book The Language of New Media. Basically it describes the process where people thanks to the internet now are conditioned thanks to internet culture to understand and engage with media like files in a database after taking them out of context, breaking them down and essentializing them, then plugging and playing them willy nilly.

Take your reaction images in your post.
That panel was made for a specific story beat in a specific context using a specific character in a specific story. But we crop it out and use it out of context devoid of its original meaning.

This is what happens with tropefagging.
People focus on the idea of "the femme fatale" we created as a database element rather than the fact it existed to try and catalogue a perceived recurring archetype in media.
It created this generic idea of a character that exists outside thr narrative it exists in that people treat as a thing you can pluck out and plug into something willy nilly and treat that as writing the character.

You can expecially notice that when people can only ever describe character as "The X of Y" or "X series' Y" or saying X character is like Y but if they were kinda like Z except also not like W."
You stood actually talking about characters are just talking about made up ideas of characters in the database instead.
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the ass of hole
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>>575764254
Sonic Amy and Omega
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Y r u ghey?
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the hole of ass
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the hole ass of
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the whole ass
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of ass the hole
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whole ass of thee
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>>575765051
Media analysis is media analysis. Tropes are tools for media analysis. Comparisons and recognizing these patterns helps understanding specific examples.

Describing X by comparing it to Y and Z, is not a problem, nor does it mean that someone doesn't understand X alone it itself. It's all just a method of communication.

Rouge the Bat is a "femme fatale". That is the archetype she exists within, alongside Catwoman and Black Cat. Is Rouge the Bat the same character as Felicia Hardy or Selena Kyle, or whomever else? No. They are all distinct characters with very different interpretations of that "femme fatale" archetype. They are not the same. Yet, in the broad sense, they absolutely are. Neither perspective is wrong, nor is one character's identity damaged by a pattern existing around them and others.

Everything that has been created is derivative of what it was inspired by, and this means that these kinds of patterns will inevitably exist. In the macro-sense, you referring to all that as "Databasing" is no different than the tropes themselves. You've just created a new broad catalogue of tropes & patterns to "plug and play" with.
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>>575765206
Damn. I was close.
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holy ass
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ass
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>>575759602
>>575759663
Japan created the characters and gave them the traits that made them so beloved. You expect us to respect SoA when the lore team is corrupting the characters' dialogue out of spite and to appease the haters?
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sonic's creampied ass
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Tbh I'm happy about Amy losing interest in love. I hope this happens more often so girls learn that love is meaningless and they should see men as oppressors and competition against them.

I want more women committing suicide and getting hooked on SSRIs to function. They deserve it. Look at how happy they are to be completely independent from disgusting men. Look at how happy they are that no men will talk to them or even look their way.

Accelerate accelerate accelerate bitch. This is the Sonic franchise. We can't stop and won't stop ahahahhahahahahh.
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holey
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>>575765736
Don't know what you guys are talking about but Rouge is a whorish whore. She's a hot one though. Would fug, would not marry.
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>>575765051
>>575765736
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>>575765801
I don't 'expect you to respect SoA'.
I expect you to realize that both SoJ and SoA have no vision for this franchise currently. Just the greatest profit.

I expect you to recognize that faith in SEGA will not save Sonic when they're an AI driven company.

The only thing that can save Sonic is the public domain and passionate fans.

Begging for help from the mythical Japanese corporate will not save this franchise. Especially not when they're literally hiring Western writers right now.
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Is there a place to read IDW's translation of BoC without having to use their shitty app?
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>>575765941
Sonic Team has a position open for a Japanese writer for the games right now. More people need to tell SoJ that they want a Japanese writer to work on the Sonic games too
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>>575765051
(cont)
To further my point, take your file image again. There are undoubtedly now hundreds of people who know rhat panel more for being used as a meme to essentially say "enough baiting" then tere are people who actually read the comic or even remember the specific panel in the comic even if they did. They will now primarily think of it as "that meme" instead of whatever it in context.

This is how you get shit like "pissing on the moon" or "Amy is a psycho stalker" or "Shadow hates Tails".
People genuinely start associating those things with the actual idea i their head about the characters and stories and the identity of the brand.
Its why so many people misremember Knuckles punching the super out of Sonic in Sonic 3 even though he didn't or people thinking Rush was supposed to be romantic because shippers online, etc.

Its also how you can have people who claim to be fans of a character seemingly not understand the characterz because people are trained to essentialize a character as a database element they can plug and play into things for fan content and fanfiction.

Its also why so many people will judge a story not by the story but by whether or not it gives them the shipfuel ammo 575747074 they want or give them shit to clipfarm for social media or give them more memefeats for vs debates.
Its also part of how you have so much poser shit because pic related is a real thing at that point for this very reason.
People treat the "information" as more important than the substance of it.
You dont get convos about discussing wtiting and narrative or game mechanics anymore, instead it just becomes about meta shit for the isolated database elements.
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>>575765975
Probably Grabber when it's out cuz they don't give a fuck
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>>575766096
Sega is not making its business decisions based on the opinions of /sthg/ and if you believe that you're delusional.
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>>575765909
SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>575766096
Watch them accidentally get someone who hates Sonic and Amy's dynamic anyway. IDW "implies" that Amy did something special with Shadow in the middle of the night, and is exhausted and sleeps in because of it. She coincidentally never shows interest in Sonic again.
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>>575766394
>IDW "implies" that Amy did something special with Shadow in the middle of the night, and is exhausted and sleeps in because of it.
Excuse me?
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>>575765736
>Describing X by comparing it to Y and Z, is not a problem,
Sparky...
Youre a prime example of the problem with this phenomenon. You will literally argue that something does or doesnt make sense for a character or is or isnt the logical end state of a character or direction of a character based on other characters you arbitrarily see as similar.

Comparing characters or saying a character is like another is fine. Relying on it and treating it as a rulebook is bad.
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>>575766468
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hugs
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>>575766468
Obviously they trained. Obviously.
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>>575766656
not a hugger, NOT A HUGGER, GET AWAY YOU DIE!!!
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>>575766096
For what
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>>575766280
You're trying to gaslight? Some anons here, including me, have been sending SoJ complaints about what the English dubs are doing to Amy, how Silver is written in IDW, and we have also been demanding that the games be accurately translated from Japanese to English. People have been complaining on Twitter as well. You think Sega doesn't see all that?
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>>575766327
You know what I type is true and you know there is no hope for ever repairing the relationship between the genders.
We must construct our society and it's narratives to make sure women are ALWAYS on the lookout for disgusting moids that will beat and rape them. They MUST see love as emotional manipulation that they have to grow out of. They MUST see children and babies as lost opportunity for themselves and their careers.

And do not get mad at me for pointing this out. I did not decide that this is how things should be, women did. I'm just in full support of their actions because God damn does it make me feel giddy and happy watching the suicides for females climb up and up and up. Keep at it ladies, you're really sticking it to us moids ahahahahhaahah.
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>>575766539
Comparing everything is just how I communicate.

I use all these other stuff as examples to convey the idea I am trying to articulate. I write entire long winded essays in like a minute, I need ways to shorten and condense ideas to get the gist across faster.

I don't know why you guys always get so crazy over the fact I reference stuff so much in itself, its not about the references I'm comparing stuff to, that is never the point. Geez.

Even when comparing Sonic characters to each other, you guys lose your minds over that. I don't know how else to say anything properly without triggering whatever flags in your heads.
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>>575766252
>Its why so many people misremember Knuckles punching the super out of Sonic in Sonic 3 even though he didn't
"Spin jumped into Super Sonic" doesn't roll off the tongue as well.
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what if ass met the hole
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>>575765761
Yup!
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>>575766656
POV: You're Amy
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>>575766958
SEGA IS A CORPORATION
YOU ARE A CONSUMER
AS LONG AS YOU BUY THEIR PRODUCT AND THEY MAKE MONEY
NOTHING WILL CHANGE
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>>575765909
Leave Amy out of your incel revenge porn, dork. Love reigns
https://youtu.be/UEquvZ9SHUI
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>>575766747
What IDW issue or panel is the anon talking about?
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>>575766982
"Rolled" is punchier (heh) and still correct.
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>>575767194
Let then waste their time. I personally love coming on here and watching retards rip their hair out over the decisions of a bunch of middle-aged Japanese business men who don't care about what filthy gaijins say.
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>>575767330
I just made that shit up anon. Shadow did not fuck Amy. Shadow doesn't stop for girls. He is like the wind.
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>>575767194
I told Sega in my feedback form that I have been discouraged from being future Sonic games unless the English dubs get fixed. I did not buy Frontiers or Shadow Generations either
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>>575767281
reminds me of how that one sallyfag used to talk about the wonders of sex
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>>575767281
Why do you hate women? Why can't women be by themselves and for themselves. Why must Amy always chase after Sonic? Why can't she just be happy with herself.

You hate women and their independence. You're disgusting. Ahahahah.
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Remember when Wangle and Thisper had gay buttsecks in front of Sapple
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>>575767358
Thank you for your sacrifice.
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>>575767587
Why must it be one or the other? Why can't Amy be happy with herself AND chase Sonic?
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all the super serious edgy sonic games have humans in them so when i read idw i just feel like this is supposed to be like sonic colors or forces even when its really triying to be dgy.
sorry idw bros i'm just biased because i'm not used to this
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>>575767520
I feel if they did basic focus testing alot of kids would say things like how sonic and shadow sound like washed out old men.
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SEGA HIRED EVAN TO THE LORE TEAM

EVAN HAS NO CREATIVE VISION.
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I will not be satisfied until every male and female is sitting by themselves in a cold and dark room hooked up to an IV drip of morphine and meth while they waste and wither away. Until that is realized we need more agitation between the sexes.
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>>575766096
McDonald's has a position for burger flipper, does not mean they have a desire to make quality food.
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>>575767713
Why should a women's whole life and role be based around a man's life and choices?
You hate women.
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>>575766838
I just hope that a Japanese writer gets hired soon and that this gets Ian booted from the franchise. If people want something, they need to make their voices heard
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>>575768040
SEGA is not a democracy. They're a corporation.
The only thing they'll listen to from you is your wallet.
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>>575768013
Their lives should be about each other/their offspring, and the community they exist in.
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>>575768040
You fail to realize, SEGA literally doesn't give a fuck. They make their money off of stockholders, not consumers. Welcome to late stage capitalism faggot.
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>>575766982
"Knocked" does. But people remember it as a punch because of Sonic Paradox + people repeating it enough.

https://youtu.be/FwgwvNBJOm8

GreenHillZone being iconic is itself an example of this. Boomers remembered it as "That level from Sonic 2". Its Wmerald Hill they actually remember, but its easy to just default to it being Green Hill because it was the "Green Hill level" from the first and probably only game they played.
Green Hill was also the only Sonic level in Super Smash Bros Brawl.
Jason Griffith is also like this. Most Griffithfags are actually Brawlbabs and think "youre too slow" is Sonic's catchphrase.

Same with people calling Amy abusive with her hammer in Riders or thinking she "tossed him off a building" and went "yeah whatever" at the subject of Chocola and Froggy needing to be found.
People got that from Metropolis Mayhem

https://youtu.be/bSj7yRyPWaQ?t=82
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>>575767775
I miss the human NPCs too and I miss the dark and serious tone of the 2000s games

>>575767780
True. People miss Sonic and Shadow's old voices, whether it was Ryan Drummond or Jason Griffith
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>>575768040
I mean, there's also a chance they keep both
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Please leave Sonic and join an IP with creative integrity like Oshi No Ko
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>>575766394
>Watch them accidentally get someone who hates Sonic and Amy's dynamic anyway.
Why did Nishiyama hate Amy?
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>>575767979
The Japanese writers will do as they're told while the American writers will try to change the characters to fit their biases and preferences
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>>575768437
You say this when Maekawa is on record on changing the characters, faggot.
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>>575768405
I hate drug users. They should be pushed off of buildings before faggots.
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>>575768437
You say that but Evan is complaining that she has to do what she is told.
Flynn complained that he has to do what he is told.

I am not sure what narrative you are making up but the writers are doing what they are told.
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>>575766975
>Comparing everything is just how I communicate.
"I dont have bad art habits, its just my artstyle"

>I don't know why you guys always get so crazy over the fact I reference stuff so much in itself, its not about the references I'm comparing stuff to, that is never the point. Geez.
Sparky....
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>>575768152
Why cant a women be valuable and awesome by herself? Why does a women only have value if she provides offspring for men and slave for them?
You hate women. You don't want tgen to be free. You want them to be slave cattle, meant to do nothing but give birth and entertain men.
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ic Sonamy best Sonamy.
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>>575768098
I did not buy Frontiers, Shadow Generations, or Crossworlds. More people need to join in
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>>575768550
stop acting like my whole existence is some kind of problem.

it's not.

i'm just a person.
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>>575768510
what are your thoughts on alcyhol?
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>>575768550
Look okay I am struggling to not compare everything to Oshi No Ko.

I watched the show and I realized that SonTails and SonAmy can be the same ship. That should be impossible. Girl Sonic and Kid Sonic are two different things.

You cannot combine them.
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>>575767334
"Rolled the super put of him" goes kinda hard actually
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>>575768518
>He believes them
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>>575768557
>You want them to be slave cattle, meant to do nothing but give birth and entertain men.
That sounds really based!
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>>575768379
I dont watch anime. Or shows. Or movies. Or really anything anymore. Everything is so fake and lame and gay. I dont even play video games anymore.
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>>575768518
Ian Flynn admitted that Shadow's "Cowards run, I win" in the Zombot arc was his choice lmao
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>>575768750
I spoke to Evan nearly every day for 18 months Yes I do.
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>>575755598
>>575756769
>>575753754
>>575755461
>>575752167
Sonic, Shadow, and Metal are so lucky...
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>>575768724
Expensive drink for low iq retards to blame their mistakes on.
>>575768784
Ian Flynn loathes Shadow, and so does his buddy. I just hope he doesn't feel that way about any other characters I like.
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>>575768495
Disingenuous retard. He said he attempted to, but failed.
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>>575766656
Pov you're a human penis
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https://files.catbox.moe/tt97vz.mp4
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>>575768763
You hate women. This is why women need to be taught at a very early age that ALL moids are pedophile rapists who will beat and rape them. We must protect women from men.
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>>575768808
That's... kinda pathetic, actually.
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>>575767587
Amy was already happy by herself. She was just bored. Chasing Sonic is fun. She loves him and let people know it because love reigns.
It was cool.
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>>575768592
Truly the best couple
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>>575769073
Nah, confirming they're together is gay.
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>>575767775
I think its part of why I cant take SatAM seriously watching it. It just feels like the gummy bears or something.
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>>575769039
Ehhh it was a really close friendship but I realized I could not be friends with someone with absolutely no desire to improve their work if I hated it.
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>>575769054
Why does Amy's happiness have to revolve around being around a man? That's really fucking creepy and teaches girls that they should rely on men for their happiness when in reality men are their oppressors and competitors. Men do not give women their happiness. That's an extremely fucked up thing to teach and tell them.
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>>575769306
Kill yourself
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holeass
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>>575769336
I accept your concession.
Now let's remove Amy's love and finally start progressing this franchise in the proper direction.
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>>575768598 (me)
Also, you told me that Sega is not a democracy and rather a corporation but Sega is currently taking a survey on the dialogue translation of Crossworlds. They want to hear what the fans have to say: https://cpn.sega-account.com/survey/17/title/basic

Also, Morio Kishimoto is taking feedback on Frontiers right now and Sega is letting him do it:
https://x.com/SonicOfficialJP/status/2080579214202601520

https://x.com/moq_46/status/2080652567521231311

https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/special/staffcolumn/gamecreator/kishimoto/20260724_009347/

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScHb3bFsbLefVRjQXNbZu55JlxM3Dy9tjFcjgMHDlNjtuV9dQ/viewform
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>>575768013
>whole life and role be based around a man's life and choices?
It isn't. She just goes chasing after Sonic when she gets bored, or happens to run into him, lol.
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AMY I SEAR TO GOD ONE MORE TIME AND
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>>575768379
Amy should do things like pic related
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Leon/Ada = Shadouge
Leon/Ashley = Shadamy (you can even upskirt lol)
Leon/Grace = Shadamy (post-00s Amy)
Leon/Sherry = Shadream
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Tails and Amy are friendly at the beginning of X and then in season 3 they fucking hate each other for the whole show
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my /sthg/compatriots it has been an honor serving with you all
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>>575768437
>The Japanese writers will do as they're told while the American writers will try to change the characters to fit their biases and preferences
They will hate you for saying it but this is true.
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I think some of you guys should take detox breaks from /sthg/. Spend a week with someone, it's nice. And when you come back /sthg/'ll be arguing about the exact same things.
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>>575769164
Confirming they're together scares away the fujos
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>>575769751
They dated very very VERY briefly after season 2 and are exes in season 3.
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>>575768557
>Why cant a women be valuable and awesome by herself?
She can! She can also love a guy shamelessly while doing it!
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>>575769908
I just meant their dynamic was meant to continue forever. If you confirm them together then that's it. The story is over.
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>>575769869
I have been away from sthg for nearly 2 months and got obsessed with Oshi no Ko.
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>>575769517
Why does she have to chase him? Why cant she just be herself? Why does her entire involvement in the IP based solely around Sonic? That's fucked up and oppressive. It teaches girls to be reliant on moids.
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Leon/Claire = Shadria
Except it's Abraham telling Shadow to not fuck his sister.
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>>575768718
Sparrrrrkyy.....
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>>575770107
Why do you keep doing that? Stop calling my name every single time I post. Why do you hate me so much
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>>575769869
sounds pretty gay krack
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>>575768737
Sparky.......
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>>575769961
Really? Because from what I gather from this place, Amy's entire personality is based solely on loving Sonic. In fact you guys literally argue that it IS her whole character. I'm the one here trying to vouch for her being independent like any and all women should be.
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>>575769814
The Japanese writers actually have respect for what they're working on. The American ones don't. I find it hilarious that the people who will hate me for pointing this out are the same people who will dogpile me for pointing out that Evan writes Silver out of character in IDW
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>>575769869
Can you kill yourself already? You’re literally one step away from having a mental crisis every day, and you never leave this place despite it being completely unhealthy for you.
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>>575768737
Kid Sonic and Girl Sonic are polar-opposite equivalents of each other.

The kid sidekick and the girlfriend are directly adjacent to each other, as both follow and support Sonic but from radically different perspectives.

Remove Sonic entirely and you just have an underdog protagonist with the manic pixie dream girl or whatever.

>>575770280
That is NOT me, stop calling my name.
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This is the last thread.
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>>575769869
>spend a week with someone
I dont have friends and I have no intention of making any.
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>>575770391
You lost, tranny.
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>>575770005
The story isn't over. Rather, it's the beginning of a new chapter
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>>575770519
I'm not your boyfriend Violet
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>Decent writer/analyst
character X can be described as [trope] but they are defined by their own character, history and narrative.

>Bad writer/analyst: character X IS [trope] and is defined by the fact they are [trope]. The elements that dont fit into it are irrelevant/dont matter/exceptions.
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I will now point out that no one has said Krack in a few hours and in the same amount of time, not a single Tails pic was posted.

I rest my case.
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>>575770391
What? Are you having a mental break or
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Now she's samefagging
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>>575770663
Krack was mentioned some minutes ago
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>>575770663
Now watch the faggot reply to himself for hours next thread to try and prove you wrong lmao.
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>everyone I argue with is my boogeyman
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>>575770841
Watch her spam Shadria and Shitdow
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>>575770848
I haven't posted about her once on the thread all day. She's just obsessed and projecting.
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All American Sonic writing has sucked ass. There is no exception to this.
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https://youtu.be/eGD7CaDlb5s
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>>575771025
nobody gaf about you or your one-sided vendetta
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>>575771068
I like SatAM.
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>>575770416
I sure hope so.
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Bread severely lacking in dow pics
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>>575771117
You like bad writing.
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I like cumsluts
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>>575771497
>>575771497
>>575771497
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>>575770086
>Why does she have to chase him?
She still is. Her love for him is what is repressed. Along with other traits.
The chase dynamic is central to her conception. Sonic and her have a sort of rivalry in that respect. It informs their dynamic.
>Why does her entire involvement in the IP based solely around Sonic?
Thats every character because its HIS WORLD BAYBEEEEE and everyone is just living in it! Get with the program!!
https://youtu.be/hOju2ThS--M
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>>575769869
I actually play games so I feel better about myself than a lot of the people here.



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