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Previous Thread: >>575619791
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Dead game until Fediel nerf
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Dead game until Siete buff
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Thank you for baking
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>>575780686
Probably to incentivize you into getting it on your wrightstone as the third trait since it can range from level 5 to 10. Hit right in the middle or go all in for full effect.
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Dead game until additional outfits
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Dead game until they add Wamdus
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Bea is so ____
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>>575782665
https://youtu.be/dZqo4OZ0Pqs?is=5FbpexQSEN3UrD4I
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Alive game and we're all happy
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>>575782798
>Pigfried of pain and suffering, what is thine wisdom?
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>>575782665
cute
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>>575782469
>>575782416
>>575782132
sex
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>>575782798
Wake up piggy, it's time for your hourly red orb roulette session
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>>575783201
One of those is an old man
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>>575783302
I didnt stutter
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>>575783302
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>>575783302
did he fucking stutter
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why did they give sigil effects to summons
they're basically a second set of sigil slots and the actual combat function of the summons are completely irrelevant
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>>575783302
And it's a wonderful thing.
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cag is my agp ideal
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>That increase of difficulty with Alterphase and Procession of Dragons
I'm tired boss.
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As a Maggie main, I appreciate any and all Cogs for feeding me 99999 shields and being cute
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>>575782937
>the wisdom of the day says:
>uwe
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Glass Cannon Substitute Pigfried sounds like a cool idea should I go for it bros
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>>575784073
>his face when he H'Ombre Over Here and boss cutscenes and fucks off
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>>575783442
what is it like to be a sexy little girl?
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>>575784264
>pop Draconic Release
>pop Lombre and get ready for a fat counter into Perfect Execution
>the brown homo sits on his chair instead and makes you play Mario Party
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Maglielle is 27 bttw
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RACKAMU
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>>575785106
Ikr? Isn't it great?
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>>575784798
I got mad just reading this. Fucking christ, god damn it. Fucking hate zero frame startup cutscenes.
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PLAY Rosetta
LOVE Rosetta
And most importantly BE Rosetta
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The last thing you will see in your life.
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>>575785745
Rosetta is OLD. We want Io-chan!
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>>575786212
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>>575781559
PLEASE someone fucking save me from these grand refinium 1 and 2 grinds. They really should have a mission that grinds all 3 like there is for the ragnite.
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>>575786691
PREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE FARM CORNFRUX WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME MAKING IT
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>>575786691
slime time
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>>575786787
I would if you could auto farm it, but when I take the "automatically pick an option to advance" it just puts me in a dexterity choice that never finishes. Shit sux.
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Fresh sandwiches! Come with a soup AND a side!
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>>575785948
Hehe....
Got the pleasure of fighting him first time earlier and that surprised me because the conflux one didn't do that.
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>Keep trying other characters
>None are clicking
I'm cursed to be a one trick.
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I do not know how to play sloppy ghost blowjob woo woo
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>>575788172
https://youtu.be/qRxilk4RGuA?is=qxOWsjPq3ElUhUk2
Mutton, fresh mutton!
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>>575786691
Do the incoming mission, I farm that one for both
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should I finally kill the world today and move on with the game... Ive been stalling...
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1. There's nothing to do with single-trait V sigils other than exchange them for vouchers, right?
2. Is there anywhere to look up build guides other than discord?

Thanks in advance, bros.
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>>575789273
He's the most fun boss in the game anon, just fight him.
>>575789387
1. Yes, you may want to keep a copy or two of Stout Heart until you get one on a Summon though.
2. Unfortunately, not really. You could try to look up characters on YT but that's about it.
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>>575789387
try to get your damage as high as you can while also having the defensive skills you want. you need to balance damage and damage cap sigils to get the most out of your character and don't forget the defensive skills. Basically every character wants improved dodge and nimble onslaught or nimble defense for example
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>>575785948
How can someone make a character that is extremely masculine and simultaneously extremely gay at the same time?
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>>575785948
>>575792337
>we want the gachimuchi audience
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>>575792337
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Almost full rare sightings party.
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>>575793650
Siete isn't that rare
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>>575795250
Really, I almost never play with one. I see more Yodas than him.
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MAGLIELLE IS SO CUTE AHHHHHHHHH
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>>575797136
Quadrillions are saying this
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>>575797437
Why aren't more 27 year old hags like this?
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>>575797437
How many marriage proposals does she get per day?
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>>575797437
>ywn able to tease her until her face turns red as tomato
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>>575793650
>Rosetta
Which mastery do you prefer?
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>>575798368
And how many make the mistake of using a ring instead of a cool sword?
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>>575798368
How many members are in the Sword Veil Fellowship?
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>>575798859
A common mistake for a beginner

>>575799214
Aren't those all harvins? She kinda looks like she...y'know...
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harvins don't have enough of a sword for mag
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>>575800110
>She kinda looks like she...y'know...
I don't know. Enlighten me. What does she look like, preference-wise?
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>>575801495
I might be just seeing things, but she looks like she'd enjoy being princess carried and pampered by an individual of a considerable height difference.
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>>575806763
what
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>>575805512
Yes, shes for Ghanda
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>do mission
>think I am doing well
>Fediel has 3 times my honors

Holy fuark
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30/07/26 the day /gbfr/ died.
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>>575808834
we couldn't even last a month...
not my fault when the gacha released something interesting
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>>575808834
It was fun, but I've experienced most the game has to offer, and getting another character to mastery 55 is too much of a slog just to try them out.
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>>575808834
They didn't add all that much, half the new fights are kinda boring and the main grind isn't even the infinity fights, it's sliming
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I remember playing with Lemiaw's Io swimsuit mod before ragnarok and I see it doesn't work anymore, she has a weird shadow on her skin. Did anyone update it?
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>>575808834
I'm still playing to gear up my Seofon and Narmaya
should keep me busy until the livestream is here
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>>575808834
I'm still playing I just don't post much. My "endgame" has always just been getting better at fights and I only just got to Infinity so I still need to practice. Especially against Luci and Versa who I can't beat without getting KO'd at least once.
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>>575808834
The game is dying for good.
It's sub 30k on Steam.
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>>575811872
it's fine retard
the game held 2k players on steam for months with no sign of updates
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Kinda wish they'd bring up more of the roster to infinity levels, like give me an infinity quakadile that cycles through all of its elements and spits out a rainbow of crafting mats so I'm not forced to religiously pound the conflussy or blow up critters that are hopelessly outgeared when I'm trying to grind out a fresh character's weapons
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Is uplift the most competitive sigil?
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>>575812584
They should've had an anomaly-esque system to begin with where boss levels could be scaled endlessly through repeated clears so all quests could be brought up to infinity levels. Don't know why more games don't do that, or something like the penance stone in Nioh where you can chose to further scale all enemy health and damage for better drops or just challenge.
Wish devs would just give the scaling tools to players instead of making everything preset.
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>>575812584
They made a big fuzz about their new BTs but it didnt remix stuff that much desu.
I was happy seeing multi and dual battles but they quickly get powercrept by M50+ numbers.
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>>575814614
Those approaches would be perfectly fine as well yeah, anything to avoid the game just having a pile of dead borderline pointless content. Hell the bones of a system like that are already in place since quickplay can scale you. Like if I could just tick a box to scale down to an expected level for a quest in exchange for a few more mats I probably would.
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Is Untouchable good?
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>>575814985
>Hell the bones of a system like that are already in place since quickplay can scale you
Conflux could've also easily been a foundation for this kind of thing had they just given it an endless option after beating Bubz.
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>>575816282
Yeah, it's frustrating how close it all is
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>>575816145
Its neat, specially on Ghandagoza, who does a lot of rolling and has poor movement but even for him is a deluxe flex slot.
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>>575816145
Pretty decent for a few characters and situations where the added dodge distance can make a difference, otherwise might be confusing to time dodges with. I've found interesting use with it and Improved Dodge/FoF/Nimble Onslaught for perfect dodge procs, but that's even more niche due to the damage halving and taking up multiple sigil slots that could be used for other things.
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Buffs and character gauges all need to pause during downtime phases this is ruining so many builds
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Hey guys
What's like the most basic template of traits that you want on your characters?

Is Fatebreaker included? I know Berserker Echo and Spartan Echo are musts
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>>575818305
https://youtu.be/cq3SiTzjMw0?t=2041
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>>575818457
oh THIS is that fucking 44 minute video
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>>575789387
it's not character specific but the rentry in the op is a good start as far as sigils go
https://rentry.co/ytczavom
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>>575808834
Such is the fate of all non-gacha/live service generals on this board, would be nice to have a board for normal game generals, just a slower board, y'know?
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>>575818640
supp dmg
Terra
Ventus
Lumen
Fatebreaker
Aqua
Ligma
Fight Over Flight
Nimble Onslaught
Mia Khalifa
Linked together
Divergence
Stout Heart
Uplift

You can also click the " * ask " button on youtube and ask gemini what sigils are recommended.
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LET ME FEEL THE POWEEEEER
THAT'LL GIVE ME A NOT SHIT SUMMOOOOOOONNNNNNN
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I pretty much never hear anyone talking about the aegis sigils, are people not running any of them? What's everyone's max HP at?
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>>575822687
I sit at around 170k HP taking every single HP +15k mastery node I could get plus the 40k from 4 blue/pink sigils
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>>575821252
JUST GRIND ONE MORE HOUR
HOW SOON WILL YOU CHEEEEAT THEM IN?
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>>575822687
I don't need them when the mastery trait nodes give enough extra health.
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Game design is an absolute dogshit
>locked to play only 1-2 characters for 50 hours at least because of absolutely insane amount of grind
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>>575822687
Running the HP passive with 5 support sigils puts you around 150k HP with really decent defence without the need for Aegis
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Triple Song sure is something
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>>575824094
What the actual fuck did the bottom two even do?
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>>575824515
To be fair the very bottom Song was MT30 or some shit while the rest of us were maxxed out. Not sure what the fuck the other song was doing though but I swear I saw one of them just spamming uncharged normal attacks.
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>>575824515
Tummy shots
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Actually they're both shitters what the fuck am I looking at? I was even using the funni Two Crown Strife tree so I only ramped up damage more once I used it
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>>575825117
>they don't know you can charge your attacks
>they literally just stat there pressing light attack for the entire match
>yellow doesn't even run supp damage
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I just got half the honors of a fediel
I used to farm MVPs in this game bros now I'm just another schluck on the side of the road...
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>>575825303
I don't even know how people fuck up playing some of the most basic characters in this game.
Song for instance just spams charged normals and does charged finishers and shits out multilock 11 hits whenever it's up, Depravity charges up your first multilock and Clincher follows up.
The saddest part about the blue Song's damage is that their ougi damage wasn't near last.
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>>575820442
another one gaslit by the clankers baka
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>>575824094
>awa edition
Doesnt track dots. Get off it and switch to villith
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>>575826105
On it now. Thanks for actually telling me which fork it is this time.
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>>575826672
i was dumb and didn't know what the fork was called <_<
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>>575825423
nevermind I'm so back
this was a good group too very smooth run I expected to get dumpstered
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I don't know how those 1-minute dummy DPS videos are achieving 400m damage range, even accounting for impractical loadouts.
just about every maxed practical build I try tops out at 250m, maybe 280m if I focus real fucking hard beyond what's possible in an actual boss fight. this is regardless of character (except fedi) and all with maxed terminus weapons.

anyone else stuck doing 250m and can't break past it? maybe I'm doing something wring here.
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>>575827764
I'm not even sure what problem you're having since I got this earlier today with exactly how I'd play and I don't even have my summons optimised.
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I finally beat Proud Lucilius (not Zero). It only took me Mastery 20. How the fuck do you dodge Paradise Lost reliably? His theme is cool.
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>>575828198
grim
You go to the front and look at where the beams are coming from
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>>575827764
>250m
say it ain't so bro I just got that with my Mlevel 30 Seofon without even a terminus weapon you gotta try harder man
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>60-second score attack
>bea personal best: 999,999,999
hyoly
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>>575828975
Poor sir barrold
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Dragon slut and retarded slut are nerfed in the next patch. Count your days, cheaterrs
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>>575829198
please don't nerf song
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>>575827764
I got this with trash summons and a very unoptimized "rotation", I believe you can do better than that anon
Post build and Master Level, maybe there's something that you're missing
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>>575828198
It's not hard if you're not trying to fish for perfect dodges. It's a bit more chaotic in Chaos++ and Infinity but the same principles apply.
If you're slightly more daring, you can use the circular AoE attacks to get iframes and ougi gauge and like the other anon said, whenever a laser is about to fire off you see a twinkle where Faa-san is.
This webm was from 2 years ago before I got the hang of the fight so the movement is rough compared to what I do now but I basically follow the same thing.
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Are 4 raw damage cap sigils still worth it?
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>>575827764
well first off, are you turning on glass cannon to mimic fatebreaker? 2nd, its probably a rotation issue or some sort of tech you're missing.
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>>575828809
what is that personal best
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>>575829535
Dude i'm not even running 3
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>>575828975
beatrix is VERY strong
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>>575827764
Beyond improving your rotation, if you don't have maxed Supp Dmg your dmg ceiling will simply be lower, that much hasn't changed since base game.
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>>575829535
3, ideally with Stun Power as the primary slot
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>>575828809
How do you deal that much damage with only 45k atk power?
My main have 142k atk power and I barely reach 70 million
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>>575830590
Please be joking
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>>575830590
you don't need that much atk to reach the dmg cap bro
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Man, Rosetta isn't difficult to play. But if you want to get MVP her gameplay is very tight.
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>>575830646
>>575830938
I'm not joking.
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>finally got another summon with War Elemental since my first one just had a shitty +1800 health up as secondary trait
>the new one has +2000 health up trait
I'm growing stronger.
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>>575830938
>>575830646
I just removed Tyranny/ATK Up and replaced it with Celestial Lumen and now I can't reach my personal best
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>>575831684
>+200 hp
holy shiiiiii
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>>575831281
>crabby resonance
Do you even need it with so much pura attack?
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>>575831281
>Raw damage/stats after a certain point has no effect because of the damage cap. You rarely need more than 80k, even 100k is way more than enough.
>You should make sigils with gray skills (Stun Power) as the primary slot so you can get up to +200% damage cap.
>Invest in Damage Dealt sigils like Celestial Ventus
>Get all the crabs and replace Crabby Resonance with Immortal Shell
>Lucilius Sigils are very hard to slot in nowadays, you get more cap from the aforementioned gray sigils.
>Get your Terminus weapon transcended
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What could cause a discrepancy on SBA generation?
I'm usually loaning a character, maining Io, the Captain and Narmaya. Everyone is at 100% usually except for the captain, who's usually at 50%-60%.
They all have all masteries unlocked
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>>575831281
>>575831713
The most obvious thing I can see is that you kind of want supplemental damage, iirc you can swap that HP weapon trait for it
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>>575832000
>>You should make sigils with gray skills (Stun Power) as the primary slot so you can get up to +200% damage cap.
nta but could you explain this a little bit more? Is there a difference between
1. Stun Power 2. DMG Cap
vs
1. DMG Cap 2. Stun Power
?
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>>575832020
Naru should actually be falling behind most characters' ougi gain because her Warpath has a -30% gain demerit on it.
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>>575831281
throw away your Alpha and get these two traits
replace Crabby Resonance with Immortal Shell
3 Stun Power V+ and 2 HP sigils with dmg cap or a celestial as its secondary effect
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>>575831281
>>575831713
I don't know what danchou wants to do but you're not doing it. This can't be a gear thing
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>>575832172
Thanks I didn't realize that.

>>575832000
So do the sigil mixing and aim for Stun Power and Damage Cap?

>>575831957
I don't know what a pura is.
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>>575832238
There are two master trait nodes (one at stage 3 and one at EX) that give +20% cap each for every "basic stat" sigil in your build for a max of +200%.
It counts whatever the primary slot is for what qualifies as a "basic stat".
1 would count because the first slot is a gray skill and would give you +40% Cap just for slotting it.
2 wouldn't count because the first slot is an orange skills and you would get raw Atk (borderline useless) from it instead if you have the corresponding mastery trait nodes equipped.
Something like pic related is ideal since you're getting stats that actually matter from the front slots.
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>>575831281
>luci sigil
>no stun
unc...
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I'm retard and my fate is over.
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>>575832915
Oh I'm just at proud so I'm a little too far from that.
But it's good to know, well explained. This counts for all characters?
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I don't understand how this game supposedly has 22k current players on Steam yet I can't find anyone for basic shit like 4 dragons
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>>575833714
you got shadowbanned
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>>575832434
See >>575832915
Use the build there as a guideline on how to format your sigils
I have Echoes and WE on summons so don't worry about those for now but for the rest of your orange slots try to get them in the second slot.
>>575833471
Yeah its the same for everyone provided they're Master Level 31+ so they can equip both of the sigil slots
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>>575829486
>It's a bit more chaotic in Chaos++ and Infinity but the same principles apply.
I disagree, those are a bit more linient. Then theres Zero's PL which am thankful Infinity didnt reuse cause thats by far the worst one
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>>575831713
you have a long way to go young danchou. The top danchou parse is like 450 mil, so this one is above average at best
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Overdrive assassin is now 50%cap
Break assasin is now 150%cap
Icendo is now 10% DMG dealt
Weakpoint is now 10% (5% from the back) DMG dealt
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Someone is working on a mag nude mod.
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>>575834889
I'm pretty sure there's more lasers and AoE circles during Paradise Lost on Chaos++ and Infinity but I haven't done original Luci since 2 years ago.
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>>575836269
There is
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>>575835529
Are they patching these skills to make them worth using, or are these fanfiction numbers?
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LSFD K6CA BJDS 0KWB

1/4
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So how come Percy gets Quick Charge on his Terminus while every other charge attack characters gets useless shit like Charge Atk Damage up or Combo finisher DMG?
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>>575834989
is that arts mastery? or what skills are you using
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I hate every single character because I can't play any of them
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>>575836573
2/4
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>>575839478
Arts tree, regin deci (traited) clarity armor break

45 QCD, 10 QC 16 Cascade
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>>575839721
Ahh clarity must be better than i thought then, thanks
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>>575835867
Sweet heavens...
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>>575839567
I'd join but it's 4:21am here now and I should really go to bed...
Also I'm godawful at Infinity on account of not really trying to learn the new bosses.
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>>575832915
Mind showing the secondaries you got there?

>t. fellow mag
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>>575841090
Orange skills in order
>Supp
>Lumen
>Aqua
>Ventus
>Fatebreaker
>DMG Cap x3
Wrightstone
>HP Lv20
>Supp Lv15
>Drain Lv10 (I really want Low Profile here)
Summons
>War Elemental
>Berserker Echo
>Spartan Echo
>Supp 14
Stout Heart doesn't do much for her on the Shield build since you really shouldn't be getting hit much to begin with, so you can save another slot with Supp on one of your summons.
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What if 3 other players also have low profile? Is foe ging to stay idle?
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>>575842038
No, the boss will just go after whoever has the least amount of it, or whoever is hitting them the most, I'd imagine.
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>>575842038
If everyone is low profile then noone is low profile
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>>575836573
>>575839567
closed. Thanks for playing maggienon
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>>575844531
I somehow got through that last bubs without taking a single hit outside of one stray piss droplet during his final shield
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>tfw I'm only at mastery 20 and can't show off my cool skill to anons
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>>575844614
he's mastering the fight...
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>>575844531
I would've joined in if I didn't have a bunch of errands I have ti take care of today :{
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>>575845058
its cool, i'll probably throw another lobby up tonight
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Why does Bea can just hold Y in Gold clock, but Charlotta still has to mash in Noble Stance?
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This should be the theme of Infinity+++ Ruby Golem
https://youtu.be/cbXgLpUtXPg?is=05WIapuu3TjoTvQs
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>>575845887
with this post we solidified that charlotta players are in fact dumber than bea players
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>>575845887
Wait i dont need to spam triangle as Bea???
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I made a tier list in like 5 minutes based off the average IQ level of each character's playerbase
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>>575851145
Im a yoda main and i agree
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What am I supposed to be aiming for for stout heart summons? I just did the skeleton quest people were talking about and got one with attack power up but that won't really be useful right?
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>>575851145
I play yoda and I think this is accurate
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>>575852203
You can use it for the time being while you try to go for a better substat
Ideally you want NA Cap, but Skill Cap and Stun Power can also be useful
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>>575851145
Drop Sorn to Bea Brain or at least Carried.
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>>575852203
Normal Cap and Skill Cap are the main desirable equip bonuses
You can make a case for stun and heal cap too
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What's a good build for Siegfried?
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>>575852358
I probably should, just based off the horror stories I've heard here.
I haven't run into enough Chinamen playing her to have a negative opinion on her playerbase though. Maybe I just lucked out.
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>>575852627
10 Tyranny sigils
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does seofon even need stout heart in his summons
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Probably been asked a zillion times, but are the atk +10% sigil master traits regular attack or does they work beyond the cap?
I don't trust anything in this game
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>>575852627
the 7 stack one for infinite finishers only works once in link break, the skill reset one works always and the tank one is for ai only and then only maybe.
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Saw a vid that said Combo Finisher DMG got changed with the patch and now it's enhanced damage. Is that actually true or just bullshit
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Hell yeah vros, DLSS and native HDR injection via the Luma mod.
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>>575853435
fuck forgot the pic
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>>575852627
Substitute Build
>Le Hombre Over Here
>Draconic Release
>Uwu
>Magnificence
Sigils
>Dragonslayer's Warpath
>Tyranny Lv30
>Glass Cannon Lv30
>Berserker Lv45
>Celestial Terra
>Celestial Ventus
>Flat Atk x5
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when the next koregra? sunday?
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What's the play when you're capped on summons, capped on MSP, and have every character maxed? Spam overmastery several thousand times?
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>>575853636
holy based
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>>575853846
delete your save and start over without cheat engine
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Surprise Zodiac soon

https://x.com/bushi_prize/status/2082753102973939915
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>>575854076
pls be dog
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>>575854076
Piggu Love
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>>575854076
I think dog or pig would be the most fun
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>>575853183
Those are generally just attack, not cap, so no good unless you're not hitting cap. The ones mentioning DMG Dealt go on top of cap.

Someone did mention that Io's Magic Chain has some weird wording for the node that increases Fire + Freeze's AoE Attack% where it does increase the damage done, but I'm assuming it goes up because the AoE damage itself is a part of the mastery traits separate of Io's actual Fire or Freeze skills. If all else fails, fuck around with Barrold while swapping out nodes and check the values.
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>>575851145
Rosetta is very high IQ, I say this because nobody plays her and the ones that do are always MVP
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>>575781559
I really wish I could be Ferry and spend all day getting choked, is that weird
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>>575853846
Play the gacha
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>>575854748
Yes
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>>575852627
haha, yeah
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I've noticed that if I have a shitter in party that dies constantly and I spend time helping them up my Honors rating plummets
I would have thought cygames would encourage you to help your team but I think I'm going to have to let them fucking rot on the floor if I want to chase those MVPs
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>>575855236
Its getting worse everytime i see him.....
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I just took a look at Galanza's styles for the first time and they just gave this guy tons of enhanced damage for free.
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>>575855614
Cygames doesn't want you to heal your team
Them making Celestial Ventus a borderline must-slot sigil and giving every heal skill a mastery trait that turns it into a shield tracks.
As a Maggie player, I at least have Caduceus to revive people without having to stop what I'm doing to go over to them, but sometimes I don't even want to bring the staff.
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I was planning on getting the DLC after I beat all of Proud difficulty, but I'm checking and all of the Chaos quests have a lower "suggested PWR" requirement. Is Chaos easier than the last Proud quests?
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>>575856202
yes, but there's 3 difficulties after Chaos
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I DON'T dodge
I DON'T guard
I DON'T need HP
I press Hombre and UwU
And if I don't land 7 Perfect Executions without getting hit once
Then I don't win
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>>575855614
Already doesn't help when half the time it's costing you time that could be spent dealing damage or stun. Makes me wonder if getting the award for reviving a lot is even worth much in terms of Honors.

That being said, I'm definitely going to perfect dodge off of shit during attack phases and revive them just to flex.
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>>575856648
should I slot in hombre? it looks like a finisher but it doesn't build stacks right?
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>>575857043
If you're using the substitute build then you want it
It's just another counter skill otherwise
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>>575855782
He also gets to use SBAs without needing the meter for it, very silly character
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>>575857043
You want it for the crux style. If find it nice to use in general regardless of the style because it allows me to stay on a boss when they use some gay shit attack, and if the attack is a continuous AoE or something you can dodge out of the move once you land it for an automatic perfect dodge.
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Do you guys these party buffs are bussin? I just tried playing wtihout Forever Ares tree and its barely tolerable with maxed out CD and lvl 17 of cascade.
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>>575858087
can different party buff supp dmg stack with each other? could a party of 4 buffers get 120% extra echoes? or everything would fall under "character skill buff" with only the bigger echo taking effect?
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>>575858087
supplementary damage is the best source of damage so yeah it's crazy
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>It's another sandalphon who don't follow up on chain SBA for reasons best known to his bugman self
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>>575858087
Only the Emerald Shield buff is worth a damn. It's a 18.75% increase in damage for most characters regardless of enemy Overdrive status.
It's unfortunate but that style really is the best Kat has to offer.
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>>575855614
Chasing for mvp is all but pointless if there's a fediel on the team anyway (85% chance of one being on the team nowadays) and you yourself aren't playing her or at least percival with his meme nuke and even then you'll lose to her. May as well help out the team as best you can since she's gonna deal more damage than all of you regardless by pooping out some balls.
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>>575858612
Why are the Chinamen so allergic to SBA chains? You'd think the DPS maximizing part of their brains would recognize how important Primal Bursts are...
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I literally cannot play any character after maxxing Io. She's just a nuke on legs and unlike most characters all 3 of her Mastery Trees are good so I never get tired of her.
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>>575858087
The Emerald Shield Supp Damage and added cap from Blade Blue is nice for everyone else, but Kat herself is still not that great damage-wise. You can do some meme shit with Guardian's Honor and Azure Sword to make sure you have Heal and Emerald Shield ready at a moment's notice while stacking party-wide shield, but running Light Wall as well tops you out on skills with no other damage skills to work with and runs the risk of preventing perfect guards/dodges. And even if you did swap out Light Wall, you're still not doing nearly as much work as other characters do. It's a losing battle all around.
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DMG cap is such a meme stat
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>>575858612
>>575859210
I actually know why. The chinks have boiled the fights down to a rhythm game where they know the exact percentage bosses go into Overdrive, Bloodlust, etc. and actively hold off their SBAs to maximize DPS uptimes.

Problem is, they have enough IQ to know when the best time to pop SBA is, but not enough IQ to know a Full Burst + Bahamut is better damage than nothing. Some are even so petty they'll refuse to SBA to spite players who "don't learn the game" according to Billibili.
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>>575860125
Assuming this is true, I now propose the tradition of huddling up on any chink who pull this shit and spam "how embarassing!" sticker.
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>>575860386
I already do this to anyone who misses their SBA despite having it available regardless of chink status
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>>575860125
>Some are even so petty they'll refuse to SBA to spite players who "don't learn the game" according to Billibili.
Lmao these guys are genuinely pathetic. Relink isn't this impossible difficult game where everything is ruined if you dont coordinate something at just the right time (outside of Lucilius's "The End" I guess), so they're getting butthurt and spiteful for literally no reason. Actual cornball behavior.
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>Play online video game
>It reminds me how much I hate Chinese people.
Many such cases.
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>play Song and Sandalphon
>hack sigils and summons
>autitstically study every boss down to the individual frame to know the optimal way to tackle them
>never SBA
>get mad when other people don't know the optimal timings for SBA chains, or are scrambling because you're greifing the entire fight anyways
>act smug about it on Billibili, where the filthy foreigners can't hear your gloating
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>>575832020
As an AI or player? Captain's AI gets tripped up a lot since they'll cast skills off cooldown and the utility skills have the longest animations. As a player Captain needs to be doing power raise++ and skill spam to keep up with other players in SBA gain, his basic combos really don't help that much with SBA. The node that gives an extra arts level whenever you get 1 and the node that lets damage skills quick charge power raise++ are massive tempo boosts as in the time it takes to do his shortest combo(XYY) reginleiv into power raise++ will also complete give more SBA and be at least halfway done through the cooldown. Yeah its not an Arts IV skill move but it feels a lot less bad to be shooting low arts moves with the above buffs skyrocketing you to a minimum 3 and the increase to how long arts levels stay and in general how short reginleiv's CD is.
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some people are chinese
how terrible
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>>575861405
The average Chinese rice farmer getting money has been a disaster for online games. Even the BRs weren't this obnoxious because they could bully companies into giving them their way. Seems every Steam game I get into eventually gets infested with loud Chinese people screeching in the reviews for the slightest thing. I've seen indie games made in bumfuck nowhere Europe get bombed with negative reviews by angry Chinks that have no interest in the game but are angry it has no Chinese translation.

>>575860386
I already do this. It's a 50/50 on whether the idiot leaves or suicides the boss to spite me. Either way fuck em.
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>>575862082
>pretending to not understand, thus making discourse impossible
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>>575862082
Some people are terrible
How Chinese
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>>575862165
>Check steam reviews for games
>Initially "overwhelmingly negative"
>Filter languages
>"overwhelmingly positive" once chinkoid is out
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>>575861970
Oh I forgot one more thing. IDK if its an actual thing but I've noticed that AI captain would often disengage with the enemy and run to me when I'm playing a ranged character to ensure I get affect by his circle buffs like clarity
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbNOeBjY--Q
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More people need to play Cog, Siete and Yoda
Please feed me shields and mirror image
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>>575862519
The best thing Steam ever did was let us filter reviews by country. It is genuinely amazing how hard the discrepancy.
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>>575862725
>Cag and Yoda in party: "holy shit we can't lose"
>the humble Beatrix:
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>>575862725
I'll get back to Yoda eventually, guess I should start transcending his weapons in advance.
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You know I never used the lobby function. Is it limited to 4 players or can you have tons of people posting and doing quests together?
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>>575850861
you don't, but should that stop you from doing it anyway?
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host it
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>>575862725
Siete?
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>>575862725
Yoda is so much fucking fun with his counters and after getting the ability to chain finishers into each other.

Siete looks cool to me but all his master traits seem lame and samey. Infinite Creado seems funny but why wouldn't I just play lancelot with master traits that don't turn my brain off?
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my afk eustace is showing up as my most used character what do
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>Ferry usage spiking
LETS FUCKING G-
>it's a cheese build
I HATE YOU
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>>575864926
Time to main Eustace
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>>575864926
Stop being an afk nigger and join the CE chads.
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>>575865041
time is a flat circle
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>>575864442
I just think he's neat
Also one of you guys ran the SBA refresh skill Siete in a lobby and it was the most hype shit ever
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>>575864442
I'd run his SBA skill more often if it didnt take so long to be available. It feels great to get it off at least
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how can you say bea is annoying when lancelot exists
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>>575866023
cause he barely does
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>>575866023
The 3 people playing him are gunna be so mad at your post once they're done getting fucked in the ass by their boyfriends.
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>>575864926
Same the nigger is already in second and closing in on first
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>>575854393
You may be onto something.
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>>575862082
at leas tthey arent indian or jewish
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>>575866527
i took the hag pill a few days ago but there was 1 vas nigga i couldnt beat in a random pub so i might switch again
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I geared up my Seofon
make a lobby so I can get carried through infinity please
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>>575866527
I wish the game would tell us what these titles actually mean. Crit Lord is self explanatory but I get "Emotional Support" sometimes and still have no idea what that means or how I got it.
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>retard with uplift SBA'ing early and ruining the whole pace and rest of the fight
a slow full chain is better than no chain at all
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>>575867421
Speaking of which, I know nothing about vaseraga, but why the fuck is he just invincible? every vas I play with is permanently at 1HP and they walk into AoEs and just never fucking die, what allows him to do that shit? seems kinda nuts. Looks like he does good damage on top of that too.
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Does Io need max quick charge? I've been doing fine with her but my dps is pretty middling but I'm pretty sure her dps is supposed to be monstrous?
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>>575867525
> but I get "Emotional Support" sometimes and still have no idea what that means or how I got it.
it means you didnt do shit....
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>>575867726
He literally has a skill that makes him not die while the buff is up
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>>575867525
you're the party's stress relief cum dump
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>>575862725
>Cog
but I don't want to just be a supportslut...
Yoda seems cool but Narmaya already satisfies my weeb swordmaster fetish.
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>>575867732
Yes. Quick Charge and Quick Cooldown will turn her into a DPS machine. Look up Maygi on youtube. She's got good Io gameplay and tutorials.
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>>575867618
It drives me nuts whenever a Fediel makes the boss bloodthirst and immediately die to the follow up attack. It's always Fediel or Fraux
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>>575867726
Yeah Vas's entire gameplan revolves around maximizing his Immortal Pain buffs uptime. While it's active he literally cannot die. But he has to do enough hits while it's active to get it back up with Ebony's Poise and Cascade. Without it active he's a sitting duck.
Here's a good guide if you're curious about how it works in full.
https://youtu.be/_WwolXV7FJg?is=fnzfc_G0Z-IL6oZB
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>>575867421
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>>575867618
Sometimes you can use the good ol' 2 chain x2 strat, but that requires boss knowledge and proper team coordination to know when they won't just get a free Bloodlust out of it.
It also still loses to Primal Bursts so its only really worth going for early when Lyria isn't up.
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>>575868396
>18000 commendations
he earned it
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>3S8A ET8P 8CV5 3T6F
made a lobby to learn Seofon. the usual infinity gauntlet
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does provoke actually work? feel like its a wasted slot
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>>575868853
Yeah but not really since targeting isn't purely based on on a one in four dice roll to begin with.
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>>575868627
>no lobby found
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>>575868853
as a sigil slot? eeeeeeeeeeehhhh
as a skill? its really nice to have, makes bosses really predictable
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best fortitude crystal (L) farm?
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>>575867983
Why are people doing the double hp thing now?
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>>575869451
4 Dragons
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>>575868627
crashed
my internet seems to be shitting itself lately
I thought the chinks I played with were to blame but it seems to just be me...
sorry
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>>575869512
Because of the damage cap mastery bonus for having basic stat sigils. ATK nor Crit are that useful so HP goes in.
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>>575869512
What else are they gonna do? Attack?
you can put in one crit if you have a character that can't cap, but you can also just get that from the weapon imbue since the base trait is a free slot anyway
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How do niggas live without Guts, Autorevive and Potion Hoarder
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>>575869728
Shields
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>>575869728
Learn to dodge or block
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This game is actually fucking dead
Can't match up with anyone unless they have moonrunes in their name
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>>575869879
host it
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after i beat caim route 4 times, can i just go back to doing the water route? way less of headache for farming
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I'm in endgame now ^_^
I like Granblue. the story is cool and wholesome.

Can't wait for Relink 2 and reach estalucia!
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How do I know what character excels at a role? For Solo/AI teammate purposes I mean. Been playing with Fediel, Djeeta, Cagli and Zeta for most of the story, right now at maniac (focused only on those 4) and thinking of replacing 1 or 2, mainly Djeeta and I dont know who else, to see if I can field in Fraux and someone else. Same time been told to focus only on 4 cause of some weapons but I would like some variety. Any helps for a tard anon?
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>>575869728
One is enough, if you need all 3 you should try playing better
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>>575869381
try again
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>>575869979
THIS NIGGA IS PLAYING EVOKIN SOLOMIS
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>>575867732
Yes because even outside of 1 hp concentration trait dropping stargazes is still one of your main sources of dps. You can get away with lv 26 quick charge (10 from wrightstone+16 from sigil) the difference vs lv 30 is very minimal. I'm still pretty new at Io but i find myself able to outdps everyone most of the time except certain 2 broken chars with magic chain
In case you are using flowery seven trait stop it, its tier 3 effect is bugged so its objectively her worst trait rn
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>>575868627
3/4
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>>575869728
Nimble skills, nigga.
>I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE (for 3 seconds)
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Very nice. Does it stack with Firm Stance for max wind pressure resist?
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>>575870792
Yes it does. Very good for The World and Bubs.
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holy shit we raped bubs
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>>575870026
Some characters perform great as an AI and can be built into certain roles, yes. From personal experience:
>Support:
Cagliostro, Maglielle

>DPS:
Siegfried, Percival, Eugen, Eustace
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>>575871354
Oh had no idea Maglielle goes into the support role, tempted now. Would like to play with characters from the expansion but yeah just forcing things out ala mh
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>>575871993
You can go through the story entirely by just focusing on your main and slapping some meh gear and sigils on your teammates. You won't have to get serious about builds until you unlock Chaos++ Difficulty.
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>>575870792
what does it do
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>barely beat Bahamut
>get a terminus weapons
>it's trannyostro's
fuck me

I assume this is more bearable with other players instead of the AI companions?
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>>575872962
Ironically, Cog is one of the best AI party members you can have.
But yes, actual players can sweep Proto Baha very quickly. Good luck finding people though (assuming this is the proud fight)
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>>575871354
>Siegfried
huh really, with the perfect trait i assume?
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>>575871993
If you give her the skill build with Caduceus, she can keep people from eating the floor with great uptime
She also builds SBA pretty fast, so giving her an Uplift or two helps the whole team
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>>575873479
Yeah, the AI never misses a perfect imput so he ramps up damage fast. In Link Time or during BREAK he will absolutely shred HP bars. My Sieg isn't even maxxed yet but he puts work in when farming the 4 dragons.
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>>575873716
Oh, and not to mention he has a Damage Cut skill. With him and Cag giving me max shields throughout the fight I can take on Infinity quests offline.
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>>575873716
>>575873951
Ive already had a decent team for afk farming but building/trying new characters in itself is still fun so i'll remember this
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>>575870026
For CPU purposes it's typically less about role and more about how competently AI can pilot the kit. It won't dodge cancel and doesn't plan ahead for charge attacks or boss movement, so it's best at mashy characters with gap closers like Gallanza, Zeta, and Sieg, or ranged characters like Eustace and Maglielle.

There's a rental system now and characters are automatically scaled down, so you can rent whoever instead of building them yourself to see how they work.
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>>575870136
>the only trait tree for io I like is bugged so I can't even play io

fuck.
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>>575868627
ggs
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>>575798551
I mainly play Crux, but Insight isn't bad too. I tried Essence in pubs and it doesn't work, maybe with a premade...
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>>575874929
never seen anyone generate SBA that fast at the end
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>>575869728
I feel like autorevive and potion hoarder are unhealthy for getting better, guts is fine though since you still have to recover, if you suck ass too hard guts doesn't do much for you
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>>575875964
autorevive and improved dodge*
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>>575875964
potion hoarder owns you can't stop me nerd
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>>575875964
I have all three equipped but haven't gotten much use out of them lately with Maglielle. Maybe I should swap them out for more Uplifts or something
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>>575875319
Max uplift cog would do that. Especially on a huge boss where all the XYY spears can hit.
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>>575874893
yeah i like the idea of seven mini nukes most even though magic chain is fun so far
Io has more bugs than just that too and none of them are beneficial like any cdr sources not working on lightning skill
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We were promised an update this week. It better not just be some recolors and a Fediel nerf.
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>>575870026
General rule is that the AI can't handle complex kits and despite some of them changing behaviors based on the mastery styles(which does bump up certain characters like infinite sword siete) you have to assume they'll consider every non-optimal action available to them so the less bad options they have the better.

An example of a good AI not normally considered a top contender would be magic chain/skill spam Io. With only stargaze as a charge move and a fast enough c/d she just rotates between spells and stargaze resulting in an AI that does a "good" or useful action 90% of the time.

On the other side of the spectrum lets look at captain. Optimal captain in the hands of a player isn't actually that hard to pilot but the AI gets too many chances to not do the optimal thing. It randomly chooses one of the combos to do, sometimes raw charges power raise, just bursts off skills without adherance to arts level(less of an issue with mastery ranks but still), always tries to get the player with panacea and clarity, etc... Add to that captain being one of the weaker damage dealers even played optimally and AI captain struggles to pull its weight despite the utility they pack.
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>>575877112
Isn't the GBF stream on August 8th?
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how much are people hitting in 60sec with fraux? i got about 400m playing like i would normally play in a boss and running a more defensive setup. only vids i saw that were 500+ were all abusing that finisher/link time bug or running gay shit like glass cannon
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>>575877112
You need to wait for August's Koregra, probably this or the next Sunday.
https://granbluefantasy.com/ja/news/
Not only is a monthly roadmap for the gacha but they also give notice of merch, collabs and updates for Versus and Relink
Example, screen of the announcement for Relink 1.2 and 1.3 back in April 2024
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>>575877650
You answered your own question. 60 second damage test showcases are all about doing the most impractical setups ever with nonsense like glass cannon all for the sake of a bigger number.
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>>575879471
i mean yeah but i wanted to see how high others were hitting with normal setups. idk if im even playing that well since im just playing her without looking up any guides. for all i know, you could hit 500+ normally without any meme setups or impractical rotations.
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What would you wanna see for the update?
>Fediel nerf. Forever useless and watch no one ever play her again.
>Gallanza free SBA bug fix.
>Beatrix shouts way less or at a minimum other players can't hear it.
>Ghandagoza has his charge attack Damage Cap completely removed.
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>>575880324
>Beatrix shouts way less or at a minimum other players can't hear it.
soulless
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>>575877650
>or running gay shit like glass cannon
This is used as a stand-in for Fatebreaker, since that doesn't work in the 60sec test.
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I'm a dumb Beatard, is there a quick quest setting somewhere to let it throw me into Chaos++ raids at least? I know there are "settings" when creating a lobby but I figure those preferences don't apply elsewhere
Sometimes the quick match takes 5 minutes to do anything but the Chaos++ big bosses and Infinity queues pop instantly so the game is clearly alive
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I'm fighting the world for the first time online as cag and how do half these people even make it so far? Some of them don't even have full master traits like wtf is going on
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>>575880907
they got carried by fediels and now it's your turn to carry them through infinity
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>>575880324
Fix Maggie's skill spam build
>Blade Dance II skill cooldown cut changed from 1% (lol) to 10%
>Blade Dance III changed from 4% (lmao even) to 25%
>Blade Dance's finisher now always applies its respective cooldown cut as soon as it hits the ground, regardless of whether it hit the boss or not
Make it so Maggie's XXXY cursor doesn't randomly do a 180 and get stuck on the corner of the arena
Ghanda, Io and Vas get Quick Charge as an option for their Terminus weapons. It's not fair that Percy's the only one who gets it.
Grand Zeta costume
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>>575881182
its a miserable experience, I feel like I gotta take rhizomata now and only have one dmg skill
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>>575880324
>>Beatrix shouts way less or at a minimum other players can't hear it.
You seem like a bad person
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>>575877650
>running gay shit like glass cannon
People are running glass cannon during dummy tests cause its mimicks fatebreaker
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>>575877650
After max autism optimizing, I'm hitting 400 mil on the dummy on danchou.
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>>575880324
>Fediel nerf. Forever useless and watch no one ever play her again.
claw build is fun and fair
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>>575881617
Eh I'd say fuck it and keep using two damage skills. Most people will still just revive pot themselves even with a Cag around and if they get knocked out enough to run out then rhiz isn't going to help them much.
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>>575880324
Literally any kind of Sandalphon buff
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how do i build rosetta
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>>575880324
A buff to sieg's crux style. That's all I want. And a new sword skin for him because most of his swords are buttfuck ugly.
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>>575882380
I will but the quest keeps failing though :l
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>>575882915
Feels like skill cooldown is good on her. Not sure about Cascade.
Put your Roses in attack mode (XXXY) and keep moving them around when things move, spam XXXXY combo.
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Who are some general good npc party members for conflux?
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>>575884160
Maggie, Cog, Eugene, Eustass, Io maybe
Mostly ranged attackers and those with good AoE
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>>575853636
I thought you were supposed to try and not die with that build
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>>575882380
>>575883158
I just beat the quest because of a server disconnect and the CPU's didn't kiss the floor once KEK
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>>575853846
what's the zombie doing?
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Who are the best female NPC party memebers?
No m*les allowed.
My main Charlotta is absolutely retarded as an NPC.
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>>575867732
The difference between lv16 and lv30 is less than 9%, further reduced by how stargaze briefly pauses per stage.
You can get away with 1 sigil if you need more utility, the effective difference is like 5-8% on her charge time.
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>>575880324
Bugfix most of the bugs
major buffs to dogshit master traits
Buffs/rework to buffslut traits, right now the way Buffs works is if you already hit damage cap, a 20% attack buff becomes 10% enhanced damage 40% becomes 20% etc that stacks additively with other enhanced damage sources so any buffslut builds are griefing when factoring how little dps they do+everyone runs aqua ventus duo+their own buffs (see https://youtu.be/ALEYoAmrAqc )
>Beatrix shouts way less or at a minimum other players can't hear it.
pic
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>>575886253
Bro that video its so fucking retarded, Infinity bosses are already getting folded and you wanna make it even more easy?
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>>575880324
Theres too many characters that have their intended "big damage" mastery trait tree that ends up being worse or worthless compared to their other options
Like Cag, Gallanza, Seite, Mag, etc
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>>575886920
I wonder if Damage Cap has something to do with that.
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what if they add Damage Cap 2: Cap Harder
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WHERE IS A WORKING SIGIL EDITOR AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I FUCKING HATE SAVESCUMMING IM DONE WITH THIS SHIT
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>>575887405
We call that "DMG Dealt" around here
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>>575887461
Pretty sure Nexus has a mod and there is always Cheat Engine tables.
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>>575887764
yeah this new table I downloaded doesn't work for sigils, it's specifically just sigils that are pissing me off at this point
synthesis has no need to be rng at this point, it's just time consuming as fuck
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>>575880324
More of the infinity-lite quests. Add Vulcan since there's already ones for Furycane and Managarmr. Also Behemoth, Mag+Gallanza, Id. Really I'd like for them to eventually make one for every major boss, except Excavillion.
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>>575860125
I hate West Taiwan
why are they always this uppidy about literally anything
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remember to thank your danchous for carrying
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https://youtu.be/ZU1XtvtA8Y0?si=FAGl2CwtqPC3trp6
what the fuck bro how
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>>575880324
>update
brother thats not happening
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>>575884160
Conflux isn't hard enough to need optimization, but this has been my experience with CPUs thus far.
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>>575884160
whoever you want, preferably ranged so it takes less time
conflux gets powercrept fairly quickly
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>>575888725
What skills and master style do you run on Gallanza and Eustass?
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>>575889097
Skill and perfectionist
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>>575851145
>yodafag
>calling anyone who
keeeeeeeeeeek
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>>575851145
>Yodarha high IQ
he presses one singular button bro
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>>575889805
>>575889940
Stop samefagging
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>>575889097
>Gallanza
Crux
any four attack skills probably works, I run Impale, Dashing Lancer, Martial Spear, Eye of the Storm on mine
I think the main thing that makes him reliable is Deathmatch X attacks have fantastic tracking so spastic bosses don't throw him off
>Eustace
Crux with heavy ammo reload skills or Essence with its applicable skills. Use Flamek Thunder + Acidrage Howl on both styles.
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>>575881341
>Make it so Maggie's XXXY cursor doesn't randomly do a 180 and get stuck on the corner of the arena
The worst part is that the camera follows it and you can don't what foe is doing.
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Have Siete and Song ever... you know...
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>>575891045
nyo, siete is swordsexual
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>>575891045
No. She prefers Harvins like Uno.
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>>575888725
>Sieg and Cag NPCs
Did I make a mistake?
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Why do so many people online press SBA immediately instead of waiting a little between turns?
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>People actually borrowing my Captain
Nice, glass cannon berserkertards get bent
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>>575892546
They borrow even my unoptimised Rosetta.
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>>575892546
>put up a less common character with reasonably high powerlevel
>write down a funny caption
>get leased
it's as shrimple as that
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Is Zeta a good NPC pick? I want cute girls, but I have no idea if the AI plays her right, of if she is like Charlotta who never uses her stance plunge.
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>>575886379
how is that vid retarded when all it shown is how atk buffs and def downs actually works? i still see so many people thinking 20% def debuff is neat when its so negligable on its own and cog's phantasma is so good when its so garbage people who realized this drops it for reinforce in dps builds
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>>575893172
the ai plays intense loops zeta like a retard, always building 5 levels of loop master before ever doing any hammers, and then it'll often times drop loops in favor of using skills and shit, this is all on a dummy that doesn't move by the by, so a real enemy she'll spend the whole fight just doing loops and almost never landing any hammers, I'd just give her the skill spam build
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>>575893672
>always building 5 levels of loop master before ever doing any hammers
A-Are you not supposed to?
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>>575893672
If you're giving her intense loops you should stop at rank 2, that way she isn't tempted by loops and just hammers asap.
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>>575893172
Zeta is only a good pick if you're a little boy IRL since she's built specifically to appeal to you.
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>>575893172
Zeta is only a good pick if you're a dudebro since she's built specifically to appeal to you platonically.
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>>575893824
in an ideal world you would get 5 stacks of loop master every single time, but bosses move around a lot and you'll often miss windows to attack if you just brainlessly build 5 stacks every single time you get airborne, and the ai does exactly that. Personally I'll ignore it to cash in my two free hammers, or build up one or two stacks if the boss if allowed to move around, if they get stunned or sba chained then I'll actually build up all 5, but I'm not sure what is actually the optimal play besides like god rng building 5 stacks and never dropping a loop ever
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Why do most people kill the fire dragon instead of the fucking sandNIGGER dragon? the sandnigger is so much more fucking infuriating and worthy of murdering first. Even his autism attack is flying around like a fucking cockrocket wasting your fucking time.
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>>575893440
because he crying about it and wishing it worked on OD
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>>575894415
You see the way the fire dragon looks at you in his cutscene? Fucker wants a piece of me I'll give him one. sandnigger's just chillin' back there anyways
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>>575886118
I feel like the difference between 16 and 30 is way too big compared to 26 (wrightstone 2nd trait) and 30. 16 makes me miss the charged normal attack/skill use to get 3 orbs out of the remaining warpath buff after losing a 50/50 way more easily than 26 or 30.
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Hey so is the combo finisher for Maglielle's third hit supposed to be kinda hard to control?
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>>575895374
It probably is supposed to be difficult on purpose, but the whole "randomly doing 180s and getting stuck on walls" thing sure isn't
I hope they patch it soon
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what's the best mastery trait for eustace ai? for non-afk content
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i have played yoda since launch, time to move on.
rollin evens a male odd a female
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From where do I get Warpath+? Transmarvel?
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>>575895773
Perfectionist it looks like, because tier 1 and 2 ammo suck donkey dick
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>>575894176
What's with gachafaggots hating characters who aren't for (you)?
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>>575895905
Give Rosetta a try
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>>575896106
yessir I turn off auto save and save scum a few hundred after every quest when I'm looking to get a good one
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alright I manually did like 5 stun damage cap sigils Im just gonna cheat engine like 20 Im done with this shit FUCK
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>>575896461
Manually doing your main and cheating your NPC buddies is ALWAYS morally acceptable.
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So I have basically dick for good summons so far.
Is it more important to have the four good sigil skills on my summons, or is it better to have the 50% XY damage caps on them?
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>>575896785
Up to you honestly. If you have good secondaries on your war elemental, spartan, berserker sigils and your character doesn't need the extra defense that def/support-first sigils give, you can just use sigils and gain the extra dmg cap from whatever summons you want
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>>575896368
Yeah I was thinking either Rose or Narm. Thanks.
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>>575896785
Sigil slot seems more important to me, so that's what I've been mostly looking at.
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Rosetta ara aras when opening a chest hnnnnnnngh
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>>575781559
i haven't beat the game yet
should i get the xpac or is that only for postgame stuff?
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>>575897995
the what?
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>>575897995
New characters can be obtained at any time but the rest of the DLC is after finishing proud mode
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Anyone got a damage captain build
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>>575897878
>Rosetta era
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>>575895109
Yeah the margin to miss is smaller for 16, but I play Insight so playing outside my circle is only a minor concern.
By all means go with what you're comfy with.
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My game just updated what the fuck did they do? These cunts don't even update their own site.
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>>575898802
Added micro bikini for Maglielle and speedo for Yoda
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>>575898876
And a fundoshi for Charlotta right?!
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>>575899115
And fundoshi for Charlotta
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Fundoshi arent sexy
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i'm more confused than ever before, stupid fucking cygames.
does DEF down do anything or not? it's just additive DMG up in inverse?
and once again there are questions about the legacy DMG up sigils and if they actually do anything or not. i have personally seen fucking Skill Damage sigil increase my skill dmg in some dummy runs while others runs are unaffected.
more than any balance patches, i want them to fucking come out and SAY IT DEFINITIVELY what the fuck is going on with DMG up and DEF down.
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Someone with a geared Fediel run to the Grandcypher and inform us if you were nerfed
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ITS HAPPENING
RIP FEDIEL
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>>575899306
Charlotta is a proper knight, she doesnt aim for sexy
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OH FUCK, GUYS
THEY DID IT
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>>575899559
They deleted Pigfried from the game?
Can't say I'm surprised, honestly.
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Wait did a patch go through
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I can see in the game title screen that they updated the game to version 2.0.3 (from 2.0.2), but they don't seem to have patch notes listed anywhere.
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>>575899559
VagueGOD
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A PATCH JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
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welp, I just did infinity world now and the second phase bugged the fuck out and I had to close the game
so uh, that's not fixed
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IT'S UPDATING
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WHAT'S HAPPENING ANONS.
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>>575899919
Oh it's fixed alright it's HIS world now
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False alarm. Tested both Perci and Fediel. They're still the same.
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I don't really know what to test for but I can tell you that attack buffs still don't apply to Overdrive
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Is the patching taking long for anyone else?
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Something groundbreaking dropped just now, I'm surprised you guys haven't noticed yet
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Why is my game taking so damned long to patch 8 mb?
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>>575900205
cygames you slow fuckers end her already
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>>575900352
Because it's modifying much larger compressed archive files, so even though you only downloaded 8mb of data, the disk operation takes much longer comparatively.
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>>575900352
scanning for cheats
you in particular are done for buddy
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Excuse me what
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>207m
i just don't know what i'm doing wrong here. it's 200-250m no matter which character i try (unless it's fedi)
is there some hidden setting in practice mode?
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>>575900680
Post build and master level
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THE PATCH... IT DOES NOTHING
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FEDIEL NERFED
ITS OVER
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>ultrawide fix broken first thing I boot up
AIIIIIEEEEEEEE
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They buffed Fediel
Nerfed Mr. Pigfried
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>>575900746
50+4
sigils: 5 basic stats, 4 defensive, 2 character specific, 1 war elemental. skill seal gets swapped out for firm stance on beelz
flip the tides (insight), picking up the +40% dmg cap, 10k hp / def, and all the flat +dmg cap nodes as possible
rotation:
>power plant -> link attack
>do this twice for 20% stance boost pickup: X -> delayed Y -> Y
>dead lands and power plant to build up the rest of the meters
>spend 3 cards on power plant, dead lands, opp. knocks
>repeat
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>>575901728
Your crabs and Lumen?
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>>575901853
couldn't find room, but those two shouldn't account for doing 50% less dmg than what i see on other fraudx videos
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2.0.3 notes
https://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/392/
https://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/392/
https://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/392/
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>>575902241
IT'S FUCKING NOTHING
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>>575901452
https://youtu.be/else7SnnJCI?is=4TlZ266ogNhzDwxl
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>>575902241
>>575902346
They fixed the "connecting" softlock at least thats nice
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>>575902241
It's over....
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>>575899306
I agree
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>>575902241
oh hey i'm affected by that trophy issue
time to collect those titles
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That's IT
Cygays has forced my hand
I'm really gonna do it this time
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>>575902524
Are those for Seofon and Tweyen reaching level 60 & 100 and killing Bub in the Conflux? I have those issues too.
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>>575896106
>>575896381
Do not turn off autosave! You can do your transmarvels, look at the results, and if there's nothing you like you can just quit to the main menu, the game only autosaves if you start a new quest so no need to turn it off.
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>>575902759
nice try siero, you won't get my vouchers
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Is Io good as an NPC? Is she strong?
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>>575901728
Its definitely a rotation issue. Play around with it, see where you can cancel animations with link attacks, see if that helps
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>>575901728
The build looks fine for normal gameplay, but I should note that Fatebreaker and Celestial Aqua don't work on Sir Barrold
You're gonna want to equip Lumen, Terra and put Glass Cannon on your Terminus
You're also missing a third copy of Supplemental Damage. Try to get it on a Wrightstone or Summon if you can.
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>>575901728
You're missing 1 supp dmg sigil by the way.
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I thought people wanted stout heart on the 4th summon. Why supp. now?
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>>575903576
Depends on if you get stout heart in your kit or not
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>>575903576
It depends on what you're going for. His issue is doing low numbers on Sir Barrold, and Stout Heart does nothing there. May as well free up a slot and max out Supp at the same time.
Some characters like Shield Maggie don't care about Stout Heart since if she's taking direct hits to begin with then something is already wrong. Or characters who provide their own Stout Heart like Vas.
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>>575903763
can stout heart spawn on whiteystones
that'd be really great
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>>575903832
No.
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>>575903832
Unfortunately no, only the non + sigil and summons.
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If you need Stout Heart
>Supp Wrightstone Lv15
>Supp Sigil x2
>Stout Heart Summon
If you don't need Stout Heart
>Supp Wrightstone Lv15
>Supp Sigil x1
>Supp Summon Lv14+
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Do you even need super min-max for anythning?
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>>575900349
i just tested it, you're right. Holy shit.
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>>575904308
MVPing.
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Rosetta and Yoda were nerfed
https://relink-ragnarok.granbluefantasy.com/en/updates/392/
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>The English voice line for Lucilius's Final Rebellion has now been properly implemented.
wait, its been bogged this whole time?
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>>575904481
???
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>>575904308
You need super minmax to see how hard you can super minmax.
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I still don't have a good summon
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No matter what I do, I will never beat the big black futa cocks from Fediel
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>>575902241
it's literally nothing...
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why did my edited sigils revert when I reloaded

fuck my life
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>>575902241
Still no Fediel nerf lmao, see you in Relink 2
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late night infinity grindin

ACBS DD84 L4W0 S6KJ
3/4
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>>575902241
>all bugfixes
>the only fix that matters is the network one
>didn't even fix galla instant ougi
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Why is neechang one of the few characters with a demerit on their Warpath? -30% SBA gain is dicks I tell you!
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>>575907287
can you counter it with Uplift?
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>>575907287
Sieg has one, of course
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>>575907331
15/16 Uplift isn't enough to completely counter-act it. I'm still 10-20% gauge behind most decent-good players even with it on. I've just given up on trying to make it work and rely on everyone else to give me gain instead during their chain.
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>Zeta gets +100% crit rate on her Warpath
>but charwcters hit 83% crit naturally now and can get over 100% with minimal investment
>the only way to get any return on your massively inflated crit rate is to use the Stinger weapon (which is still much worse than Ascension and Terminus)
Why?
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>>575907717
Nice, one free sigil slot.
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>>575907717
>>575907832
It's still +15% damage so you probably want to keep it anyway.
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Why do you guys need over 100% crit rate? I doubt that all of you use Stinger.
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>>575907946
Does Enhanced DMG have a cap like the 50% on ATK Up and DEF Down?
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>>575908096
We don't.
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>>575908096
That's the point. Having >100% does nothing unless youre using Stinger. And nobody's doing that. The crit bonus on Zeta's Warpath is completely wasted.
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>3 Beatos
Help
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>>575908214
>>575908232
When people posted their party a few weeks ago, a lot of them had something like 130-140. Do you get it just from passive bonuses?
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>>575908293
Mastery traits, outdated overmasteries, etc. can get you wasted crit, not a huge deal unless you're wasting space for it.
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>>575908293
Mastery Trait trees just tend to have shit that you won't make use of from what I see so you may as well overcap some things.
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>>575908238
The floor is so lucky...
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ATK down debuffs don't affect me because I'm 300% over cap. I have done zero testing.
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>>575908473
They didn't actually do too badly. That last place Beato is the Tealio! guy and I just had him again in my session and he quit when the boss was at 15% HP left both times. No fucking clue why, he'd send a sticker right before he left the both times.
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It's over the thread can't even last a month
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>>575911779
>one week for every new fight
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>>575911779
Siete needs to stop holding back and give us his infinity fight
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>>575911779
Infinity Mugen will save us.....
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ggs siete/narmanon! those were some good runs
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i just realised where the term "in twain" comes from
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>>575908238
>4 retards
Cute
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Theres a few Poison/Burn DOT based specs in the expansion, ignoring the fundamental flaws of this (specifically some bosses being immune to debuffs) which of them stands out as the best? I'm guessing Tweyen's is probably the best just looking at them but maybe Eugen is good?
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How the fuck do you play Maglielle when this is all you see
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I might be a bit late on this but it's not just me who gets late tells for infinity hexa trials right? The only one that is consistently told in advance is white and black, the rest just seem like coinflips most of the time especially the first one.
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>>575915320
You can still tell where the boss is, so you can still play the game.
Now when the XXXY forces you to look at the other side of the screen, that's when you know you're screwed.
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>>575915387
It's either a bug or designed that way because I think that happens to everyone.
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>>575915320
Ennugi is huge, it's only a problem if it's human sized boss
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>>575915810
>It's either a bug or designed that way
I can't tell which it could be. Since I have seen it give advances for the other elements at times. Maybe it's a weird phase related thing where it only does it after a certain point, but I'm usually too busy trying to kill it to pay close attention. In any case it makes the fight a pain.
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>fight za warudo for the 50th time
>still a blast to fight
Its quickening isnt it? It feels too good to land the pblock
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>>575916640
quickening+music+DDR mechanics are simple to read and not overbearing+doesn't cutscene as often as the others
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>>575916640
>Its quickening isnt it?
that and it not having as much cutscene aoe shit as the angelfags do
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>>575916640
He's simply just better
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are we saved
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skill spam Perci feels like half the damage of the molten edge giga nuke build but is a million times more fun to play
fuck cykagames
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>>575920553
I really enjoy parrying to get my stacks up
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is a basic sigil slot worth more than immortal shell
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My party members are Percy, Charlotta, and Zeta.

Are you telling me that charlotta and zeta are fucking retards and I should swap them out?
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>>575912108
Siete seems like fun to play until I actually play him.
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>>575921408
No.
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>>575921874
yes
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>>575922047
Yeah his animations look cool but they are so fucking long
Versa feels impossible to hit and luci forces me to dodge out of my combos all the time
I guess if you are a parry god the problem goes away completely but alas...
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why cant i play song properly. i cant get past 30m honors but these chink fucks are getting 70+
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>>575923509
they are doing the debuff build
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>>575923509
>Chinks
Oh you know why
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Fediel truly has it all;
>massive milkers
>absurd dps
>incredibly save while doing dps
>gooner mods
>can give herself mirage
>has a pretty good cc
>has a party wide buff
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>>575924545
>Fediel truly has it all
Except being actually fun to play
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>>575915275
I haven't tried Eugen's DoT tree completely on its own but tier 1 on the side with Grenade Punch has been interesting. I've got Venom Grenade for poison + defense down, Disruptor for buff removal + attack down, and detonating grenades with Intercept causes burn. Pretty nice side bonuses between lining up grenades to uppercut, and the skill damage isn't that terrible.

I really need to finish up his masteries so I can play him more in Infinity. The stun potential with grenades is still his strong point.
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bugman not following up with SBA?
That's a Taiwan #1 in the chat.
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is it over?
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>>575925306
yea
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>>575925306
Yes. If you're not doing four dragons or DI quests things matchmaking barely gets filled anymore.
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sometimes i try to greed damage during the sba chain and miss my window to follow up and i take the crown of biggest retard in the lobby
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>>575925674
i play during peak jp hours so matchmaking hasn't slowed down for me
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>>575925306
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>>575925915
Is your name in chinkrunes?
>Yes
You did it on purpose.
>No
You are just beato-brained.
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>>575926945
no im just stupid and i really really really want to land that charge attack i worked so hard for surely i can get it in in time
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Holy shit this game does have a general
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>when you land that blade dance 4 right as a link attack happens and can immediately go into a second blade dance 4
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>>575927016
>i really really really want to land that charge attack i worked so hard for surely i can get it in in time
Sounds like something Bea would say.
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Can Danchou play something else than Substitute build and still be reasonably effective?
I don't want to take damage for the beabrains
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crux seofon > fediel
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>>575925674
I shouldn't have boughted the game yesterday...
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>>575926665
What is peak jp hours?
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>>575925915
>>575925915
>play Naru
>greed a fully charged Setsuna and miss a link or ougi
>optimal play also means you change into pink stance before a link attack as it lets you follow up with a pink>blue stance switch attack
>play Song
>need to dump a fully charged Multilock right before a link
You now know why these two characters are the biggest shitter magnets
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>>575928076
Right now.
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>>575928114
Naru's warpath is also built to troll the party. The character is designed to annoy the other three players.
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>>575924545
>gooner mods
fucking where, and dont say nude shit
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>He doesn't know about the Fediel horseshlong mod
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>>575930487
why would i wanna use that mod? fediel is my agp self insert
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i still don't know how to trigger Fraux's gigalink finisher thing
>watch video
>"just use your finisher right after link attack bro"
>try it
>never works and only pumps my meters only a wee bit
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>>575903317
>see where you can cancel animations with link attacks
i have no idea what this means
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>>575931543
You mean the delayed finishers? It's timing, do it during towards the end of the animation.
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>Sincerely feel like I'm busting my ass to make things work
>Game only give me a single pity award while everyone else get a fuckton
I hate this system
I HATE THIS SYSTEM
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>>575931983
no, the one that instantly maxes both of her meters
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Brainlet here, is this good?
I just don't get understand what the game consider as contributing toward the cap, or not giving a fuck about the cap.
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>>575932369
>I just don't get understand what the game consider as contributing toward the cap, or not giving a fuck about the cap.
at this point, nobody knows
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>>575932369
enhanced dmg is calculated at the end and bypasses the cap
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>>575933907
Thanks.
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Will the Conflux expansion save us?
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>Can't find online games for regular Chaos quests anymore
Guess i'll use the bots
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Here's your announcement timestamp relinkers
https://www.youtube.com/live/yBT1cy7ROpI&t=9972
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>>575934738
wish this game let me queue up for multiple quests at a time so I could help dumb kots like you
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is there a way to check how many conflux clears you have I'm going insane mashing through stratum 1 trying to get to 30 for my last achievement
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>>575936734
The trophy for it in Lyria's Journal keeps your current clear count.
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>>575934738
This game needs random help matching like splatoon raiders
Even monster hunter would benefit from something like that
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>>575937626
Isn't that what quick quest and sos are for? Or is this something different
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>>575937734
>quick quest
>just fuck my stats up senpai
mmm nyo I don't think I will
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>>575937734
I would play quick quest without scaling.
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Problem is you can't join mid quests in this game, MH allows that.
Seems simple, but it restrict matchmaking quite a lot.
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>>575938252
>MH allows that
not the good ones
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>>575937734
I don't know about quick quest, but I'm pretty sure there isn't a "join random sos" in wilds unless I'm retarded
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>>575895760
It’s definitely clunky compared to xy. It starts by moving forward from you but has poor turning and anything that exceeds that turning will register as a 180. I’ve gotten use to it by having it circle bosses or purposely triggering the 180 the moment it touches boss so that it stays in place long enough to trigger
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>>575937839
quick quest runs are just so fucking brutal relative to the reward you get
all it takes is one shitter in the party and the run is completely bogged
the only online quests I've failed are inf and quick quests, never chaos++ ones
all of that hassle for some measly badges that are practically worthless
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>>575938320
>ACKSHUALLY
Not what I'm talking about
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>>575899401
I just watched a video that claims combo finisher DMG up sigil works on pigfried so it's all up in the fucking air
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>>575937839
>fuck my stats up
Huh?

>>575938632
Honestly I can't recall. I always just play solo or with /mhg/. But I assume there should be one with the new games.
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>>575939112
if you keep posting that stupid kot, they're really gonna eos Granblue Fantasy Re:Link for good
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>>575939023
I feel like they had the right idea, it was meant to be like the roulette system in FFXIV where you can queue up for any dungeon for massive XP for your character/achievement rewards, it's meant to be a way to help newer players get groups easy, but Dalia badges are SHIT (and even worse in ER). They should have spent the time they wasted on Conflux improving that system so you could use it for the easier farming mats and help new people out. It's kinda hard to get anybody new into the game when you tell them the MP (the biggest draw) is basically unavailable now outside of the last handful of quests.
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>see an update for relink
>get happy
>see the notes and its all bugfixes and no balance changes
>get sad
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>>575939943
Mnyes, wyell, chyeck this shyit out
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>>575940443
go jork it somewhere else, traitor
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>Enter quick quest queue
>If you get a quest that's lower than your current rank, gain a proportional amount of mats and MSP reward
How does that sound?
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>>575939950
Damn, and I just bought the game FOR co-op...
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>>575940670
make dalia badges tradable for the same weapon mats "packages" that are available in conflux (maybe cut the quantity a bit so conflux doesn't get completely mogged) AND msp
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Nyo one to play with :(
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>>575940684
Best bet is to host a room and label it as "for progress", people will join to help out, but they'll be so overleveled they may one shot enemies. The game is so fun I think it's still worth going through it to get to the final difficulty fights, but yeah, they fumbled a bit for onboarding anybody late to the game.
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>>575941831
make a lobby then
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>>575939895
If you're over the mission's power, Quick Quest forcibly and heavily scales you down. I haven't done it in Endless Ragnarok, but in base game you'd sometimes have to switch to worse combos and skills because it became impossible to cap the good ones.
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>>575940670
I already don't mind doing quick quests just for the hell of it, you're already doing more damage than the newbies even with the stats cut down and at least they get to practice the fight a little bit. Unless you queue in and find out that there's a 100/55 Fediel that joined that low level quest specifically so their stats are not cut and they just fuck that bosses shit up in five seconds.
I do hate when it's a quick quest but it puts you into Chaos++ content so you're just taking a hit to stats for no good reason.
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Once more, I must slime
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Why in fuck's name does the art focused tree for danchou have trait that makes charging power raise LONGER
This shit can already takes a million years to charge up even with sigils and now the boss are more spastic fucks than ever
Who designed this
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I just experienced the 3 chinese player party for the first time and it was so miserable. Something has to be done about these people, it made me never want to queue up for a quest ever again
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>>575944756
you can queue for the same area
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>>575943223
Just power your way into 4dragons++ and do that instead.
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>>575945073
indeed
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>>575945073
Anon, please.
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/gbfrg/ gangbanged my slutfu again...
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>>575939786
That guys a retard
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proto bahamut is really shoving it up my rear, lads
my ai buddies just can’t break the crystals in time…
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I did it guys... I gapped a Fediel
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are you guys whining about the town bgm can finally stop mentioning it

https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/748
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>>575940670
it'd still suck because of the hard scaling and inability to choose the quest rank range. They should've at least made two queues for pre-ER and post-ER stuff so I don't have to worry about Fatebreaker being a dead skill half the time
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>>575947365
I don't play with cheats, tho
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>>575946978
Id assume all of them have War Elemental equiped but none cant run Berserker Eco due no Terminus?
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>>575947990
i’ve not killed bahamut yet so none have their terminus weapons and idk what the other things you mentioned are
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>>575947365
i didnt know people were whining about it
honestly i didnt realize they were changed
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>>575947365
the new song is great wtf is wrong with people
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>>575944756
Just had a cosmic 4 dragons with one of these
2 meta fediel that somehow couldn't stop licking the floor, wouldn't following up SBA (we never had any 4 or primal burst at during the whole fight), genuinely let link fly by while facerolling on whatever controller they were
What convinced me it was purposeful retarded behaviour was letting SBA chain run out and THEN they would SBA individually.
Giving internet access ot that shithole was a critical mistake the whole world is now dearly payong for.
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>>575948319
War Elemental ignores the elemental weakness system and straight up gives you a no questions asked 20% increase in damage
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>>575927645
Arts build does just fine and is way more chill than substitute build. Just understand substitute build does 30-40% more damage when played right and this gap is insurmountable
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>>575932369
Yes this is a free ventus for maintaining arts 4 and stacks additively with it.
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>>575951596
A well worth price if that mean I can play my Danchou without wanting me to commit kys because of the beabrains slotting in a million glass cannon
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>>575944256
Bro your adrenaline rush?
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Do I have dicks on the brain?
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>>575952095
Weird how you only felt that way about the brown one.
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>>575939786
It doesn't. The guy saw DMG Dealt in it's description and just assumed it works like Celestial Ventus without actually testing it.
If that were truly the case then we'd all be running Overdrive Assassin because it gives "DMG Dealt +100%" which is miles better than it's supposed upgrade Celestial Incendo.
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Chinese players are hilarious. Translated from a bit of drama in a Bilibili section where one player was malding at another for leaving the group after 1 failed Luci with a good group. (They cleared twice before this)

>if team wipes I will be moving. I am here to farm not to babysit. If first timer or not, that statement stands. I am aware people make mistakes but you are asking me to waste my time because honestly: We've fought Lucilius to death and anyone failing here is honestly just not a good player. Same attacks with a health debuff (that you can purify) thrown into it. If you can not be confident you can take him, there is no idea why you booted up the latest version of him when even I took an extra long time preparing.

>I am farming not babysit.

>Take like a minute or two to boot up with a fresh group that does their study and has a fair chance to be even better. Majority of pugs I've played with, while doing badly and floortanking in the last 30% of the fight, rarely fail unless someone trolls during The End or right before with an SBA.
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>>575952862
it's only the new dmg dealt+ sigils that have been actually tested to go past the cap right?
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>>575952862
i'm still confused about this whole mess
>ATK up sometimes works past cap and sometimes doesn't
>DMG up is not really DMG up unless it's called "enhanced damage" and also it only applies 50% of the DMG up
>overdrive nullifies DMG up but not War Elem, but the latter also counts as DMG up
>DEF down is ackshully an indirect DMG up for the player but maybe it applies during overdrive?
for god's sake cygames you need to clean up this shit
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a-am I doing okay if playing support cag and my 60 second damage is 60 million at m.lvl 30 w/ almost maxed ascension weapon? I'm about to do chaos++ bub and wingedfag and don't want to let my team down...
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>oof bro went for the SBA at 47% instead of 40% to skip the Bloodlust phase
>bro throwing frfr
>gonna keep my SBA to be optimal
>*dies*
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>>575953763
>>575954025
it's a confucian tradition to lose your shit and inconvenience everyone else in your proximity the picomoment you feel offended by something
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game good
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>>575954010
This shit isn't unique to Cygames. Japanese devs in particular are irl vagueposting kings. I play Monster Hunter as my main game and it's infuriating how many times they refuse to give us raw numbers or misleading skill descriptions.
>increases attack by a moderate amount when conditions are met
Most aggravating shit to see in a game.
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>>575954010
>but wait, there's more!
>"enhanced damage" is not really "enhanced damage" in some sigils
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>>575954007
>>575954010
Yeah. A general rule of thumb is that if the skill has a basic orange sword icon, then it only increases Atk or base damage values, and does not interact with cap at all. The only exceptions to this rule are Supplemental damage and the Echoes.
If the skill has the "damage cap" icon (orange sword with a black spark behind it), then it will interact with cap in some way, whether that's traditional damage cap or damage dealt in the case of Ventus and Aqua.
Non-Warpath character Sigils like Crimson Clout will also say "DMG Dealt" sometimes. These are in the same bracket as the basic attack sigils and should be disregarded. The only character sigils that interact with cap are Warpath sigils and the ones that explicitly mention DMG cap, like Eternal Rage's Ethos.
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>>575781559
Is divergence good? 2% regen health for one slot seems ok but "over time" isn't very specific. Is it over 2 sec? 2 mins? 2 hours?! I am in chaos+, so I'm not asking if it has a place in an endgame build.
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>>575954010
I said it in another thread but Jap devs should pay western devs to handle skill descriptions and how they're displayed. Diablo, for how shit it has become, has some of the most autistically detailed breakdowns of every active and passive skill in the game. It's impossible to misunderstand.
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>>575954010
Its easy to underatand, if its not:
War Elemental
Celestial Aqua
Celestia Ventus
Immortal shell
Or a Warpath effect...

Then it wont go past your damage cap.

Master Styles dont have this problem, if it says "DMG dealt" then its DMG dealt and some common ATK up
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>>575955127
And NOT some common ATK up*
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So basically, anything that says "DMG Dealt" ignores the damage cap entirely.
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>>575954245
Maybe Qin Shi Huang was right after all...
>>575954448
How did you get the "Unlock your Master Level" achievement? It sounds like a really dumb question I know, but I have a couple characters maxed out at Lv55 and I still don't have the achievement. I'm hoping I'm missing something and it isn't just bugged for me.
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When are the optimal times to SBA on Infinity Hexa, anyways? That's the only fight where I've seen massive differences where sometimes you get to skip 3-4+ of the minigames
I assume it's basically as often as the party can full burst as possible, right after she recovers from a knockdown? But sometimes early on she just puts up the wall a second time instead of running away. Is it always one wall -> elemental crystal minigame -> two walls? Or can you get more or less walls depending on party dps?
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Due to localization, we really can't know for sure what goes beyond the cap or not, testing is necessary...
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>>575955873
the formula was already datamined anon
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>>575955489
Every time I've tried to start an SBA chain I time it as soon as I see her start to get off the ground (just like any other boss)
But she always manages to put the barrier up right before my SBA actually connects and I get pushed back. It's very annoying.
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>>575947215
far from optimized sigil, summon, and rotation wise (no ventus or glass cannon)
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It feels like that I understand dodge cancel absolutely incorrectly. Is there any guide?
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>hit The World with a slow ability as his first form dies
>everyone gets softlocked
Whoops..
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>>575956628
You press the dodge button and it cancels your animation.
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>>575956628
Press dodge after an attack comes out so you don't have to deal with the endlag of the attack.
Most attacks can be dodge cancelled as soon as you press the button, but some, like Maggie's Hammer, need you to wait a second before dodging or else the attack won't come out. You'll have to test your character's timings yourself.
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>>575953763
Faa is a bitch but he's not THAT bad, you don't need a "group that does their study" what the fuck, is this what the bug diet does to someone's brain?
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>>575956628
I guess it depens on the character but at its most basic, the idea is to cancel the animation that locks you in place after your attack is already done or on the way, it's very important with Io for example, Stargaze starts to fall practically as soon as you release the button yet the animation continues for a long time, you can skip that by just dodging just after releasing Stargaze HOWEVER some of Io's skills don't come out that fast so you have to know different timings to dodge cancel the animations are the right time.
This is all sweaty stuff but it's fun if you like to optimize your gameplay.
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>>575954245
No kidding. I had 2 The World runs where a chinese player left immediately when we didn't get the opening perfect block.
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Would Yodarha be good as an AI?
I see his best trees require perfect timing like Siegfried's, and I'd like the occasional Mirror Image to keep my stupid ass alive.
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>>575957678
Only one person needs to land the parry for it to count for the whole party.
If he's that obsessed with being perfect then why isn't he the one landing the parry?
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>Defeat the Trial of White
>the AI attacks the black one
>platforming time lmao
>AI refuses to run ahead of me
This shit is proof these devs don't play their own game. I'm failing runs because the AI can somehow perfectly dodge nukes point blank but can't follow simple instructions.
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Just got my terminus. Well I forget it kek
Even with Tyranny sigils to get below 45k I'm hitting damage cap on the dummy.
Is this trait worth it for Io long run? I can try save scumming some Tyranny+DMG Cap but in the end it means I will always have to balance her HP. Also is Tyranny the only way to lower her HP?
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AHHHHH
HOW FAR AWAY
THE ETERNAL WOOOOORLLLDD
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>>575952628
if he said that about the red one, you'd say he fucks dogs
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>>575958357
If you progress into the dlc you'll be abandoning the terminus again pretty fast, but it's useful for actually getting there. You can use Celestial Terra to cut your hp too but most people here would advise against it
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>>575958525
I always giggle a bit at the start when the female singer says her opening line.
>burning with POSSIBIRITY
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>>575958259
I was trying to get the sticker from clearing Zero withoht anyone dying the other day and the CPUs kept wiping to the colored circles on the ground phase because they would just keep following me instead of trying to clear the circles
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>>575956689
So that's what causes it?
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>>575953763
believe it or not, I've grouped up with a person who was even worse than the guy complaining (pre-ER days, like 1.2-1.3)
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>>575958357
Progress into the DLC and get weapon ascension and you'll start to see what their intended weapon progression is. All roads still lead to ascended terminus but this time there's a good reason to max out every single weapon (and some builds benefit from using ascension weapon over terminus because having higher HP is possible without huge sacrifices now)
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>>575958357
It will help you to clear Chaos and Conflux which will gear you up to your first ascencion weapon
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>>575953763
I fucking hate that making a mistake or playing in any way that isn't 100% optimal is seen as trolling.
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AAAAAAAAA I'M TIRED OF QUESTS
GIVE ME FRAUD ALREADY!
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>>575957678
>mess up the perfect block, eat shit
>"Don't bother if you can't do it consistently."
>avoid the perfect block attempt at the second Quickening
>"Are you fucking trolling?"
I hope this guy ends up in one of those Chinese factory death videos on /gif. Fucking retard.
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>>575958664
>>575958875
>>575959038
ty for the info
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>>575959428
Nvm. the last quest gave me her Crewmate Card.
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>>575959403
I've never seen a single Eustace or Siegfried that wasn't a bot. Speaking of which, how much of an asshole do you need to be to join Infinity quests and set your character to autoplay? Fuck these people.
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>>575959626
Autoplay doesn't even work in infinity, so if they're acting like a bot they either modified their game or are cheating in another way.
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which dragon is the one people are using to get past the balance mech in world easily? is it just any of them?
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>>575959452
The Chinaman is too much of a shitter to do the perfect blocks himself, so he projects all of his perfectionist pride to the rest of his team. Pathetic behavior.
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>they are saying the worudo with serious face
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>>575959738
>Autoplay doesn't even work in infinity,
Oh my god so these Chinks either hacked their game to afk Hexa or they really slow walked towards me to res out of spite.
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>>575959826
Ice and Dark dragons primarily. Lucilius also works and is apparently more consistent.
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>>575957472
>This is all sweaty stuff
it feels more like action game 101 to me. Once you learn it it's something you try in every game. Outside of ones with more deliberate and slow combat systems.
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>>575959826
Ice Dragon fires a thin beam in a straight line that pierces. You can clear the balance gimmick fast with it.
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I can't stop playing Io bros.
She might be the only character where all 3 of her Mastery Styles are unique, fun and viable. She might actually be the best character in the game as far as I'm concerned.
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>>575959826
I've seen the fire dragon work, but it was a bit iffy one of the 2 times I tried it myself. The beamers are probably a bit easier.
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>>575958747
I found that they'll try and chase them but you have to activate the first one.
They'll also get stuck chasing the outside one often so you'll usually have to tag that yourself too.
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>>575960607
I've been funneling mastery points into her, looking forward to playing her soon.
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>>575959826
Ice and Fire work. Fire needs to be very close to a card because the range is shorter, while ice needs to be in the correct position because the beam is much thinner.
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*lick-lick*
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>>575960926
Install the barefeet mod bro
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did any of the base mods need a update for todays update?
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>>575961051
>nexon removed the barefoot mod
>modder told he could reupload it as long as Lyria and Io still had their shoes on
>redditors harassing and accusing him of being a pedo
>*this contributor no longer exists*
I wish I could, anon. I wish.
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>>575961320
theres one just for fraux on nexus right now
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>>575961320
I have no clues what you're on about I just saw this the other day
https://www.nexusmods.com/granbluefantasyrelink/mods/665
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>>575961138
Parse is fucked, which means now is the best time to play because the bugmen and troons can't live without comparing themselves to others.
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NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY HER, SHE DOES LESS DAMAGE THAN FEDIEL STOP GRIEFING MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>575961656
parse is working fine
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>>575961656
Very odd because my game now crashes on boot and I already removed cream api...
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>>575962069
>most popular characters in China are Fediel and Io
Makes sen-
>and Sandalphon
Fucking what.
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damn finally
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>>575962069
I don't play online, but do people actually kick you if you pick one of the less meta characters for high difficulty content?
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What the hell is Delayed Flipkick?
Don't tell me it's another hidden mechanic.
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>>575962447
You bet your fucking ASS they don't
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>>575962357
Game fucking saved.
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>>575962342
Wasn't he the bullshit meta before ER? Think I saw someone say that at least, so they might just be the meta chasers that got stuck in the past.
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>>575954010
>>ATK up sometimes works past cap and sometimes doesn't
>>DMG up is not really DMG up unless it's called "enhanced damage" and also it only applies 50% of the DMG up
>>overdrive nullifies DMG up but not War Elem, but the latter also counts as DMG up
neither of these are correct. look up the damage formula
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>>575962786
He was retarded on release but got gutted for ER yes.
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>>575962282
that graphics thing with dlss support was crashing my game on boot
had to remove it
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>>575962447
Chinamen will grief or leave if you're not playing to their arbitrary standards, yes
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>>575963279
yea i just figured that out, thanks for that.
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>>575962471
Okay, it's pretty cool because it lets you switch between styles mid combo. But man, it's another Mag's situation when I understood how to play a character through reading the mastery traits description.
I just want to spam this move
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>>575961656
GET OFF THE AWA FORK. USE VILLITH
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>>575962447
You can kick people?
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>>575962447
Lol no. If you're not dying that's all that matters. I've seen people rage quit for gay reasons like not skipping phases or mistiming an SBA.
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IS THIS GAME ACTUALLY DEAD WHERE ARE THE INFINITY PLAYERS AT ???
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Lobby interest? I just got back from errands
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>>575963640
im playing with my AI sorry im too shy cause I die atlast once per infinity fight (except the world)
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>>575963530
Yeah if you play as Fraux
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What are the honest/accurate parse fights? I see people crank 6 mil and above on world because of lol triple damage but parses on luci and bubz seem to hover between 2.5 and 3 mil for top parses
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>"It's my first time doing this quest!"
>*sudden lag*
>The game will continue in offline mode due to one or more players leaving
Wow fuck you too.
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>>575963595
To be fair Zegalith has been solved for days now and everyone should know how to skip her bullshit for fast clears. I have no shame pulling the plug and continuing with AI if you SBA before the skip.
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Fraux is more difficult than I expected.
You need never lose yourself in her stances and dodge cancels are pretty tricky.
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Which character is the most based. As in most likely to call someone a slur to their face and feel no remorse.
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>>575964234
Fuck off already Chang
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>>575964234
And I have no issue continuing with your own AI. It's your own self induced aneurysm over some BS bro not mine.
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>>575962637
I only started during dlc what was it
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>>575965021
I think you might still have the original themes until you get to the DLC, but they're
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnvPA-ANJYI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdDqyucGfzQ
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Whoever said skill reset Zeta makes for a better AI was right.
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>>575964897
Gallanza
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>>575965240
fuck man these were peak comfy...
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what's the best way to farm grand refinium 2? I know for 1 is general assembly
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>>575965380
And now you get them back if you install that mod.
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>>575965413
revenge of the ooze
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>>575964897
Arguably Cagliostro since he is kind of an actual cunt, despite being claimed by mentally ill people lol.
Gallanza too.
Sandalphon would've in WMTSB1 and then Cygames neutered him and turned him into a melancholic homosexual so he won't now
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so if I have ventus on, does my cag still give me shields
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>>575964897
Lucilius
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>>575965907
Yes, the game treat shield and HP as different things.
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>>575965907
Yeah, think she did so for the overheal one, though it's been a bit since I ran that so I might be misremembering. She does for sure if you have the trait that just turns it into a full on shield granter instead of a heal
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what the
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>>575964897
Lily
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>>575965907
Yes, shields don't count as healing so you can still get shields from cag, Io, mag, etc. that can turn their healing ability into shielding.
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>>575966149
Gobu
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>>575964897
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>>575965521
damn, afk farm it is then
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>>575965379
>>575965548
my nigga gallanza would never
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>>575966141
If all his other mods didnt give it away, the guy might be a bit of a freak
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a fellow katawa shoujo fan
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>>575964897
Pic related
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>>575967053
Damn...
No wonder she was kicked from the main crew.
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>>575967053
So this is why they had to kick her from the main crew..
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>>575966141
Dont tell me thats the feethands guy
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How do i check my no death infinity trophies
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>>575967691
Sure is
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>>575967747
lyria's journal > trophies > ragnarok > battle
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>>575869983
>reach estalucia
No...
No you don't...
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>>575967247
>>575967610
Qrd? I'm assuming it's story related from the gacha.
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>>575965274
That was me
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>>575964234
>join lobby
>pull the plug
>kidnap the other 3 players and turn them into AI
devilish
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>>575968782
Io is not featured in the cast in the new main story reboot chapters.
But technically she still hangs out on the grancypher and she had a whole event for herself a few months back with a redesign.
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>dont have auto save on from rerolling sigils
>game hangs on a black screen after 15 minute fight
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>>575955486
he was always right, those guys he had killed and their books burned were all quacks
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dead game cant find any party for tweyen sefon fight in chaos++
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>>575969381
god if only io looked like this in relink, I'd never play anyone else
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>>575969691
If they're smart they'll give her that look as a DLC outfit
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>>575954475
>when conditions are met
Ummm, thanks?
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>>575970487
You'll get 3 lazy recolors and like it.
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>>575954010
>we gave you a mechanism to see your damage as a percent of damage cap, but not a way to actually see how much damage cap you've accumulated from all your masteries
Fucking hell, Cygames, is 20% a lot or a little? Obviously the answer is "if you can get more cap, take more cap" but I'd like to know if that 20% is worth abandoning a comfort or defensive sigil for, you know?
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Bake the bread so I can keep my Immortal buff active
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>>575974432
>>575974432
>>575974432
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>>575954475
The Japanese brain runs of glorious advanced fax machine technology please understand



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